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Toyota Land Cruiser - 2024 by John Rush
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All right, we are back, and it's that time of the week where we do our car reviews. Richard, you just drove a 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser, and it's not like the Land Cruisers of old, or maybe it is.
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Well, I was going to say, there's sort of a play on words here, right? It's not like the Land Cruisers... Of the recent old, right? It's not the ones that they just got rid of. And so for some of you, I guess, buffs or car buffs, we'll call it, right? You're more used to the bigger Land Cruiser, right? The more luxurious one. It had the TVs and all sorts of stuff on it. That is no longer the case. They actually got rid of that for a year, brought this back. But it's not to be confused. This is a midsize SUV, five passengers. It's right between like a 4Runner and a Sequoia, if you're familiar with kind of the truck-based SUVs. There's no longer a V8. It is a V6, and in this case, this was actually the hybrid version of it. I'll kind of get to the details here. Yeah, basically, it's got a 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine with a hybrid system, 326 horsepower. 465 pound-feet of torque. This thing, Dad, is sort of meant to be bought and go out on the road, or I should say off the road in a lot of cases, right? This is meant to do that. And like you said, you are more familiar of the Land Cruisers of, I guess I'm going to call them yesteryear. This much more aligns with that.
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It does. I mean, yeah, way back in the day with the FJ40s, FJ60s, some of, again, you old car buffs that Richard just mentioned. I remember some of those vehicles from way back when. They were sort of a runoff of the Jeep CJs back in the day. And then the Land Cruisers, of course, came along. And they ran that way for a very long time until they really... I guess I could say, Richard, modernize that platform, and it was very popular around the world, not just here in the U.S., and people would drive those things for half a million miles and not exaggerating and came to love that vehicle. Well, as you said a moment ago, that particular model ended. You can get... How should I say this? You can basically get that vehicle only in a lot more luxurious form on the Lexus end of things, but it is not one of the same. That's, I think, some of the confusion as well. In the past, Richard, you could buy the Land Cruiser or get a little bit fancier Lexus of the same basic vehicle. That is not the case anymore. This is more of that old traditional Land Cruiser style.
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It is. I mean, it's related to the new Lexus GX in a way, but it's different, right? But it's not, yeah. Because that GX, you can get with a third row and such, and this Land Cruiser, you can't. I'll kind of get into the specifics, and then we'll finish talking about the rest. Three trim levels, Dad, for this model year, 2024, 1958, which is, again, a throwback to kind of the no-nonsense, no-frills origin of the Land Cruiser. The medium edition, literally just called Land Cruiser, or the first edition, which is, you know, sort of... well, it's what it sounds like, right? It's kind of a special one. You can get some different things on it. You can spruce this vehicle up. The one we drove was not spruced up, right? It had cloth seats. It had, honestly, heck, it didn't even have a power driver's seat. I'm manually pumping myself up if I wanted to sit higher or lower myself down or scoot forward, whatever it might be there. It does have some things as far as dual-zone climate, but if you And it's got a smaller center screen. Again, we drove the 1958 edition, I want to specify there, which, again, is supposed to be an ode to the older generation. As it sat, Dad, again, not a whole lot of options on it. As it sat, $60,790, which, again, you have to be the judge of it. I will say this. At our altitude, and I think off-road, which we didn't get a chance to take it and we're even limited in what we can or can't do, This vehicle ran really well up here at our altitude, Dad, with the I-Force Max technology underneath the hood. This thing got up and went. It went when you wanted it to. Some people argue that the braking was a little bit subpar, but what I would say, Dad, is it's still a big SUV. I mean, this is not a small car by any stretch of the imagination. So, again, it's not meant to be a little sports car that's going to be able to slam on the brakes in that sense. But they've done a nice job at allowing for some upgrades if you want to, depending on what you're looking for. This particular model had a roof rack, had some rock rails on it. In terms of styling, Dad, it's not like the Land Cruisers of yesteryear. It's more modernized. Correct. It is. It's got some sleek, a little bit boxy. Again, folks, if you've seen the new... Lexus GX is running around, you've seen it. But this is not the Land Cruiser of the outgoing model, Dad. And that's not to say it's a bad thing. And like you say, sort of an ode, and a lot of people are going to know this car, your Land Cruisers from many years ago. That's kind of where they want to get back to, right? They want this thing to be the do-it-all car for you, the do-it-all SUV, right? You can take the kids to school and you can go off-road. You can take this thing camping. You can tow your camper, depending on how you want to do it. It really is meant to be that sport utility vehicle, right? The SUV. It's really meant to do that in a lot of cases. And so I think they've done a nice job on it. My only, honestly, nitpick, Dad, is just for the 1958, you're paying $60,000 for a car, and you don't get any of the frills that I mentioned.
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Got it.
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But that's just a personal experience, right? That's more of my personal opinion. Some of you, Dad, and some of your listeners may say, hey, when I'm off-road and I'm doing some of this other stuff, I don't want to mess with any of that, right? I don't want to have the risk of my seat not working because I get some water in it or whatever it might be. So outside of that, very comfortable, quiet. The roof rack did add a little bit of wind noise driving down the road, but that's to be expected pretty much on any vehicle when you start adding noise. some additional accessories, Dad, as far as that goes. Overall, was really pleased with it. Fuel economy, let me get that for folks really quick, was an average of 23. And again, this is partly, it's a heavy vehicle, Dad, but due to that hybrid technology where you can actually hear and feel the engine, shut off at times. 22 city, 25 highway. And again, we were actually right there about 23, 24 miles per gallon. So for folks that want to learn more, they're starting to get some leads on the dealership data. I've seen several of them driving around town. They are out there. We encourage folks to get out as we always do test drive it because what we think that and what we like or don't like, someone may differ completely from that. And so that's why we encourage you to get out to your Toyota dealership and let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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This is John Rush from Rush to Reason and Drive Radio. Thank you so much for listening. Check out more of our podcasts at RushToReason.com or Drive-Radio.com.
Bill's wealth of experience is on full display as he delves into the historical evolution of NASDAQ, illustrating its journey from a fledgling tech-leaning exchange to a powerhouse of innovation, technology, and transformative growth. He candidly recalls past market crashes as lessons in valuation vigilance and discusses the present overvaluations that echo the past while highlighting the robust earnings seen today. Furthermore, Bill brings attention to geo-economic tensions, particularly between the U.S. and China, as well as the strategic struggles of auto giants like Nissan and Honda as they navigate an ever-changing industry landscape. This episode offers a rich tapestry of market anecdotes and strategic insights for informed investing.
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Here is Professional Money Manager, Bill Gunderson.
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And welcome to the Wednesday. It is the midweek Fed Decision Day version of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, coming to you live. From Times Square, we'll be headed over to the NASDAQ here in a couple of hours. The Dow, the market's a little quiet today, which is pretty typical for a Fed decision day, although I don't think there's any question that they will. Give us that 25 basis point cut. It's just a matter of what they say after that, probably. How many cuts next year are we going to get? Well, the Dow right now is up a little bit. The Dow is up 30 basis points. The Dow is at 43,574, trying to break a nine-day losing streak on the Dow. A lot of that's been UnitedHealthcare. Ever since that CEO was murdered, that has not helped UnitedHealthcare. It's up five points. I did notice that NVIDIA is having a good day. And over at the S&P, we're up five points. It's up 55 points.
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And it sounds like we've got a little technical difficulty with Bill. We'll get him back in just a moment. But we've got the Dow up, trying to beat its nine-day losing streak that we've got going. But it's in the green today, up 0.3% at 43,581. We've got the S&P up a little over just five points, pretty much flat on the day in the NASDAQ. It started up a little higher, but at the moment it's basically dead flat as well, up three points at the moment. We've got crude oil just over $70 a barrel, up 1% today. Gold and Bitcoin, the digital version, I guess, both are down at the moment. Gold down 0.4%, and Bitcoin down 2.42%. Again, welcome to today's Wednesday, the December 18th edition of the Best Docs Now show. We host Barry Kite at the moment. We'll get Bill joining us here back in a second. We're having some technical difficulties in the big city of New York, so he'll be back on with us in a moment. Looking at yesterday, we had the Dow. Saw a bunch of stories in terms of where the Dow is. The Dow, I guess, is down just about nine days in a row that we've had that losing streak. It's pretty interesting since we've had, I think, at least one or maybe two all-time highs in the S&P during that span. Certainly hit an all-time high with the NASDAQ. during that span as well and so uh you know it kind of went under the radar almost didn't my wife came home yesterday and was like i gotta gotta note that the uh dallas had its you know biggest losing streak since 1978 or something of that nature and i was like okay your news sources oh we got them back hey bill all right yeah you know there's
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We're battling for bandwidth here in Times Square where it's a lot of people in a small area. What can I say? And every ilk just about out there on the street. You know, let's take a look here. Today is the day, right, that we're going to get the Fed decision and that we are expecting 25 basis points. Then they're going to be all about How much are you going to give us next year? Are you going to give us three? Are you going to give us four? Well, you know, I guess, Barry, that's why I like to look at individual stocks on a daily basis. I think sometimes if you're just up there at the top looking down, you know, you get caught up in the rest of what Wall Street is worried about. I'm looking at my holdings and looking for opportunities, et cetera. You know, I got to say... We had an account transfer in today. You know, all of a sudden I saw like 20 new stocks show up. And guess what? I saw Kimberly-Clark. I saw Procter & Gamble. I saw all the usual suspects. A lot of very dull utilities, you know, that haven't gone anywhere in years. So anyways, that's just the way Wall Street does things around here. That's been my experience. Now, I've been coming back here to New York since I first got into the business. In the early days, back in 2000, the mutual funds were the ones that had all the money, Barry. And now it's the ETFs, I guess, that have all the money. But along the way, they've really cut the expense budgets. I think the SEC stepped in. Remember those 12B1 fees? that allowed the mutual funds to charge investors in their funds advertising expenses and taking care of the brokers and whatnot. And they finally cut that out. But in the day, I mean, they put us up in the Plaza Hotel for several days, and we went to the finest steak houses. It's not quite like that anymore, but there is still a lot of – activity that goes on back here in the way of trying to make guys like us aware of different products and whatnot. Okay, how did you see the quantum computing stocks again yesterday? QUBT was up 51% yesterday. Rigatoni, oh, not Rigatoni, Rigetti, Rigetti Computing was up 32%. IONQ was up 5%. uh some of these meteoric rises among quantum computing stocks i think it's a fad right now i think it's going to be short term i think you got to be very careful and i kind of handle this more as a uh a trading opportunity right i mean yes there's money being spent on quantum and it is all the rage right now and there's only about four or five stocks in the center of all of this and Amazon lit the fire about two weeks ago. But I think you've got to be really, really careful here. I don't see these as long-term investments, at least now, maybe someday down the road. But I'm sure, Barry, you've seen plenty of fads. come along in the markets over the years.
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Yeah, a bunch of different ways to get to, a lot of times, to a similar place. It's just sometimes some place might charge more inside that mutual fund wrapper to get there. I saw that list come in this morning, too, and I was waiting for your message. And, of course... You sent a text out and said, whoa, where did this stuff come from? Thankfully, we have the opportunity to see a lot of those kind of stodgy names that end up in these portfolios, which gives us kind of a different perspective sometimes on the industry as a whole.
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And you're in the heart of that industry today. I trim the garden, you know, the first thing I do is get rid of those weeds that are clogging up the portfolio. Now, back to this quantum computing just for a minute. I call that hot money. You know, the hot money moves around, chases this fad, chases that fad. AI obviously has been on the receiving end of a lot of hot money. Believe it or not, the space exploration, you know, Rocket Labs and others, they've been on the receiving end of a lot of hot money. And the hot money does move around. I don't consider that to be really investable. Some cases it is. But in other cases, you know, it provides trading opportunities. And the app actually comes in very, very handy as far as finding where the hot money is. and new companies that are on the receiving end of that hot money. And I kind of look at this quantum computing as hot money right now. Okay, China continues to be a big story. The Biden administration plans to investigate Chinese semiconductors. Of course, they're investigating NVIDIA. And, you know, this Cold War basically has Taiwan in the middle, and it has the chips. It has the semiconductors in the middle of the Cold War between us and China. We're mulling a ban on China TP-Link routers, which we use here in the U.S. There's holes in those that allows them to spy on us. And so we continue to fight China in a lot of ways. And, of course, China is fighting their own country, their own selves with their economy right now. But you always have to keep that in the back of your mind, is that situation in Taiwan and the technology that Taiwan has as it relates to semiconductors that China sure would like to get their hands on. You know, we remember Hong Kong, how it just kind of disappeared over a couple of months, and now you hardly ever hear about Hong Kong anymore as China took it over. We'll be right back. and welcome back here to the second quarter of the best thoughts now show well after the show a little bit after this show i headed over with my wife to uh the nasdaq headquarters which is just a few blocks away from here and we will be part of the closing bell ceremony at 4 p.m today i have had a long history with the NASDAQ, both good and bad. You know, when I got into the business in 1999, the NASDAQ was roaring as tech was really starting to take hold. And it ran up to 5,300 by March of 2000 and then went on quite a sell-off of 79%. But if you go back further than that, it's now taken the NASDAQ, it took the NASDAQ 49 years to get to 10,000. The first trade on the NASDAQ, the first close above 100 points, was back on February 5, 1971. Where were you in 1971? I think I was in the 6th or 7th grade around that point in time. Actually, no, junior high school.
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I don't have an answer for that one.
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No, you don't have an answer, but that was the very first close at 100 points. Okay. And, of course, the NASDAQ has always leaned very heavily towards technology, and yet Wall Street still pretty much has the same recipe, it seems like. And, by the way, Barry, as I was going through our holdings today, there it was, Procter & Gamble in the portfolio that came over. They've been using the same recipe for the last 35 years, it would seem like, the big Wall Street firms. But I have always found the NASDAQ to be a lot more innovative. Now, it took 49 years for it to get to 10,000. To get the next 10,000 to hit 20,000, which it did this past week, it only took four and a half years. I think you call that quantum, right? Quantum computing, they're a big advance, which is the powerful nature of the advancement in technology today. And the dominant role in our lives today. Okay. From 1971 to 1991, uh, it settled at 500. So it went up four or five fold in 20 years from 1971 to 1991. And I'm thinking companies like Intel came along. Microsoft came along. Amazon came along more in the mid-'90s. Apple was in that initial phase. Hewlett-Packard, which was once a powerhouse. Stocks like that were the core, the beginning of the technology revolution that we've seen. Then we saw the NASDAQ close at 1,000 in 1995. a time when the popularity of computers and web browsers were exploding, leading the U.S. into the information age. And if you remember before that, you know, I mean, the only ones that had access to computers were the big IBM computers, and you had to have a direct link to those big mainframes, etc., And then along came the web browsers. Yahoo was one of the very first web browsers coming along and others competing for Ask Jeeves. I remember Ask Jeeves and some other web browsers back then.
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Ask Jeeves, yes.
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And then I remember the PCs coming along. My first PC was a really heavy PC, weighed about 70, 80 pounds. And, you know, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. In March 10, 2000, I was there. When the NASDAQ peaked at a level just over 5,000 points, 5,300, we didn't know it at the time. I had a sense that something was not quite right. The dot-com bubble burst. And a lot of those people that were around then, you had literally superstars during that period of time. The stars on Wall Street were the technology analysts that were covering the tech stocks. Everybody wanted in to the tech stocks. The NASDAQ was exploding. But then over the next two years, obviously, you had a significant crash of 79%. That's the worst I've seen during my career. And a lot of the people that I worked with at that point in time, they were just gone. They were baristas at Starbucks. They were running, working at golf courses, all kinds of different things. I soldiered on through it all. and had some good mentors that helped and learned a lot about valuations along the way and hung in there and survived. And then you had another peak in 2007, October 31st, when along came the great financial crisis, okay? That was the second worst bear market that I saw. and that took 53% out of the S&P 500. I think the NASDAQ was down about 49 or so. It wasn't hurt as bad as the financial stocks because the NASDAQ does not have as much exposure to the financials. Nowadays it has a little bit more with the fintechs, the PayPals, the squares of the world. And then the NASDAQ finally bottomed, I remember this, March of 2009. Within days, I said a new bull market has been born. And guess what? It hasn't really looked back since then. 15 years. Why? Earnings, earnings, earnings. Earnings have been growing every single year, except for the COVID year. And I think there was one other year in there where it was just down a little bit. We've gone from $66 in earnings to about $230 this year, maybe $250 next year. Then the NASDAQ finally got back to $2,000. That was 2015. It took a long time. Then we closed at $10,000 on June 10, 2020. Despite the COVID-19 panic, we called another bottom in March of 2020, I believe, or was it 20? Yeah, 2020. Almost hit the bottom within a week or two. And then we hit the bottom. On August 24th, we called another bottom in January of 23rd. And then, of course, on December 11th, 54 years after its launch, the NASDAQ hits 20,000. And, you know, the NASDAQ is different. If you go to the Dow, if you go to Wall Street, if you go to the New York Stock Exchange, there's people all over the place on the floor. I don't know what it looks like now. And there was trash everywhere on the floor, torn up tickets and whatnot. It looked like a day at Santa Anita race track, you know, with all the torn up tickets. But the NASDAQ obviously is much more electronic. And I'll have a report from there. I'll be over there in about two hours. All right. When we come back, we'll talk about some individual stocks, including an update on Aquo. a very interesting nuclear stock. This is the Best Stocks Now show. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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Call out the instigator Because there's something in the air
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, I don't think the market's going to make any big commitments here one way or another until that Fed announcement comes in in about four hours from now. In the meantime, the Dow is up 191 points. NVIDIA is helping Dow today. Let me look at NVIDIA real fast. It's having a good day because Microsoft gave an update on how many of those AI chips they bought. They bought a lot of them. They're the biggest buyer of the NVIDIA chips. And NVIDIA is up 4.2% today. That's the best day it's had in quite some time on that Microsoft news. And that is helping the Dow. The NASDAQ is just barely up today. It's up 25%. And the S&P is up 13 points right now. Okay. So, yeah, looking back on the NASDAQ, what a long, strange trip it's been from 100 to over 20,000. And I just think of the advancements in technology, the world that I live in today, the difference between Wall Street when I came back here originally and you know, 25 years ago compared to where we're at today with all the technology. It's really remarkable. We have lived in the information age, and we've seen all of these revolutions, and there are still revolutions taking place in autonomous cars, robotaxis, flying taxis, artificial intelligence, weight loss drugs. et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, stocks in the news today. How about Nissan and Honda getting together to compete? I mean, they've both fallen on hard times. Now, I remember when Nissan and Honda first came here, really, many years ago, the Japanese invasions. with their cars and trucks really putting a huge dent into our Motown. And now they've kind of fallen on hard times. Nissan was Datsun, Datsun back in the day. And Honda has been a big seller of cars, but it's a tougher world out there. It's tough to compete. And now there's talk of Honda and Nissan getting together to form a joint company.
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Some pretty ominous words there, too. I heard something where basically they've got the next 14 months are going to determine if they survive, which is pretty ominous when you're looking at Nissan and Honda, right? I mean, drive around...
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A lot of dealerships.
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Right. And you're going to see a lot of those cars on the road, too.
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Yeah. And, of course, you also have Stellantis in big trouble, deep trouble right now. Okay. Roth analysts caution about extreme market optimism going into 2025. Well, you know, going over the history of the NASDAQ, And the two huge stumbles in the market, one was devastating. I mean, the 2000 bursting of the tech bubble, it was devastating. You know, 79%, a $100,000 account became $20,000. A million dollar account became 200,000, which in many, many cases, that was the case. of people that were all in on the NASDAQ. And that's why I have always that stamped on my soul to always be, you know, vigilant and always looking in the rearview mirror. And, you know, really the way you watch that is valuations. Valuations is really the only quantitative analysis. You as a chartered financial analyst, Barry, know that. that valuations do matter, and how much of the CFA course and getting that designation involves valuations on companies and on indexes, Barry?
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Yeah, probably 98%. I mean, there's a very tiny, tiny section on technical analysis, right? But the rest of it is kind of that pure fundamental analysis, whether it's kind of the Graham-Dodd school of years ago, right, which Warren Buffett, of course, took and ran with. But the long-term valuations, P-E ratios, expected P-E ratios, right, You know, what, you know, the apps analysis, right, is taking into account. And then, of course, you know, the other side of that coin is the technical analysis side or momentum. But, yeah, it's a huge portion. And, you know, like you said, eventually, right, while your biggest worry recently has been valuation is, you know, those PEs eventually, right, go down. back towards the mean, right?
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Exactly. And right now we're way above the mean. And, you know, the reason that, you know, I employ technical analysis as the third leg of what I do, valuation, momentum, and technicals, is that's where the trouble starts to show up first is in the technicals. That is your early warning. Now, unless you have a black swan event, there's no warning of that, okay? But obviously, the year 2000, there was plenty of warning from a valuation point of view, and there was technical warning. And back in 2008 and 2009, same thing, and just watching the news headlines. You know, you could just tell that that bubble in the housing market and in the mortgage market in 2008, 2009 was not going to end well. I have the same feeling this time about certain industries in the market. certain vehicles such as Bitcoin. I have that same feeling that I had back in 2000 and I had in 08 and 09. Now, Roth MKM analysts point to the Buffett indicator, which is the S&P 500 to dollar GDP. That has risen to levels only exceeded in 1929 and 1936. Okay, that's going back a ways. There is simply not much room priced into the risk markets if things begin to go wrong. And that's the other thing that you have to worry about. And that's why I watch the weekly jobless claims. We watch the CPI, the PPI, the unemployment. And we watch around the world because we're so connected. And that's why I've been saying, hey, you know, Europe, really weak. China, very weak. You know, different Japan, very weak, weak economies. And, you know, we depend on at least decent economies around the world to sell our goods into. So anyways, all of these come into play. And I'm a guy that is always looking, you know, at these charts and looking for weaknesses. I have seen recently that A lot of topping out action or cooling off action. We had the huge rally after the Trump election. That exploded the valuation ratios. The NASDAQ went up to 35. I want to say it got up to 45 or 50, although we weren't doing forward PEs and PE ratios on the NASDAQ back then. But that's my recollection is that there were a lot of stocks trading at 100 times earnings and 10 times sales, pay ratios of five. So I know that we were a lot higher. We were a lot higher during the dot-com bubble than we are today. The difference is we have real earnings. Yes, exactly. We have better earnings now, which helps, but still. We're at very lofty levels from a valuation point of view. And yet most of these big firms have target prices of $6,500. $7,000 seems to be about the consensus now for next year by the end of the year. Merck enters into the obesity drug race in a pact with the Chinese pharma. That's another area that's really cooled off, the weight loss stocks. But I still think that that's an investment. Okay, that's not a trade. That's an investment in probably the world's biggest health problem, which is obesity. Lilly's Alzheimer Therapy approved in China. I don't see much of a move out of that stock here today. Of course, everything's pretty quiet right now on Wall Street. Salesforce, they seem to be doing okay. CRM, they're in the Dow. They're hiring. How many of those Dow stocks are firing and laying people off? I think of Intel, where Salesforce is hiring. And Salesforce actually looks pretty good right now. They've also got a big product coming up, AI Agents. Maybe I'll hire a few of those, Barry. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show.
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with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, broadcasting live from Manhattan, downtown Manhattan, Times Square. We'll be headed over to the NASDAQ here in about an hour or so. And a lot of interviews taking place over there with our little party here. And I'll let you know, I know I'm going to be on some live broadcast there on, I think, on X. And I'm sure they will be archived. Some stocks that stand out to me today, Uber. Uber having a very good day. I didn't see any news, but there's got to be news there on Uber. We obviously took an Uber from the airport. That's a problem. It took longer, Barry, to get from LaGuardia Airport to our hotel in Times Square, I think, than it took to get from Charleston to New York. Or at least as long. That makes sense. I mean, the traffic is horrendous from the airport, especially this time of year because of the Christmas season and everything. It's a $110 Uber drive. Uh, from there and plus the tip, which, uh, I'm pretty generous guy with the tipping, but Uber's having a good day today up 4.2%. Uh, it's been kind of a battleground stock here recently when GM dropped out of the, uh, of the, the robo taxi race. And that's who Uber happened to be, uh, linked with another one, obviously today and video, which has been a battleground stock here. It's up 4.1% today. on that Microsoft news on how much Microsoft has spent and how many of these chips. I haven't bought any of the chips. I don't have any chips. I don't think I could carry it around. They look too heavy to me, those chips, and they might burn my house down with all that speed. I don't have the air conditioning capacity. Okay, the other one, too, that is also I'm seeing a fresh breakout in ASM lithography today. You remember them? We made a lot of money in that stock, the Dutch manufacturer of lithography systems. And I'm sure they're probably breaking out on that Microsoft news too. You know, it's not like the demand for Nvidia chips have suddenly dropped. You just have to believe that a lot of that was already priced into the stock at some point in time. But we are getting fresh news today that demand remains very strong. for those NVIDIA chips. And, you know, ASM, which got cleared down, it went down 45%. We sold ASM a long time ago. And it went down a lot after we sold it. It finally bottomed at 645. And now it's starting to rally. It's up about 20% over the last four weeks. They still have powerful earnings, just like NVIDIA. And that stock today is breaking out through resistance. Okay, let's take a look at the S&P 500 here. Well, the health care stocks are rebounding somewhat today. Well, I wouldn't be chasing those stocks. That seems like a bad area for me. Cigna is up 5%. CVS is up 4.8%. Humana is up 3.5%. UnitedHealthcare is up 3.2% after several days of selling off. The AI stocks, other ones like Broadcom, kind of weak today. Supermicrocomputer, it's all over the place on a daily basis. That one is very hard to predict. And I know that Granite Cares, this ETF group.
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Oh, yeah, go ahead and look at Granite Cares. I want to hear that.
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Yeah, they have an ETF on SMCI. I think it's juice two to one to the upside. I think I'd feel more comfortable with it juice two to one to the downside. Tesla has its first down day in a long time.
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50% to the upside, maybe.
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Yeah, exactly. And then I look here over at the NASDAQ. NVIDIA's biggest winner on the NASDAQ today at 4.3%. Western Digital, you know what, that's a stock that has been around in the NASDAQ, I think, ever since I've been in the business. They had a big presence in Southern California. And back in the day, you know, the first revolution had to happen in storage. As computers got more and more powerful, storage became a big issue. And those great big disk drives that held 40 megabytes, and computers kind of came with 40 megabytes. That's all you got. And if you wanted external, the next revolution that came along was the IOMega that were a peripheral that you attached to your computer, a big heavy thing. I should have saved my iOmega. I had one at one time. That was one of the greatest stocks I ever found. That was probably one of the first big winners that I found. That thing went up 142% in like three or four weeks with their invention. It was out of Utah. And you plugged them into your computer, and it gave you an extra 40 megabytes of storage. Then along came the flash memory, the sticks. And then, of course, now we're in the cloud where basically you have unlimited. But you go back to the days of Seagate and Western Digital with the big clunky disk drives. And, of course, they had to get them a lot smaller to start fitting into the smaller PCs and then eventually into the phone. So it's been a fun career. I continue to just have fun every single day. Seeing all of these developments and innovations and money-making opportunities, smart people, good managers, disruptors, just on and on and on. And I've seen a lot of bad companies, too, along the way. Okay, well, I'll be reporting today. I'll be looking at stocks. I've already gone through all of our holdings here. Oklo is our stock of the day, OKLO, which is one of our nuclear holdings. It is, well, it's pulled back now a little bit. It's still up about 2%, however, on the day. I'm seeing the quantum computing stocks kind of coming back down to earth here today, which I think that's just hot money there pretty much. To set up an appointment with us, 855-611-BEST. Transfer your Procter & Gamble to us. We'll get rid of it. AT&T, some of the other dinosaurs, soggy stocks of yesteryear. Four-week trial of live trading. I teach. I send out live trades along with commentary, with the teaching in that commentary. No, I don't teach an official class. If each thing has been watching me, I've been doing this for 25 years now, go to GundersenCapital.com to sign up for those four free weeks. Have a great day, everybody.
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Join Kim Munson in a heartfelt episode as she discusses the significance of memorials and honoring our veterans. With special guest Paula Sarles, learn about the transformative power of the USMC Memorial Foundation and their mission of healing and remembrance. Discover the compelling stories behind the memorial, and consider how engagement and responsibility shape our national fabric.
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KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. So you can listen anywhere in the world. And we look at these issues searching for truth and clarity through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives via force. Force can be a weapon, but policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum, the globalist elites, the United Nations, the Colorado legislature, Colorado governor, World Health Organization. I'm going to put in county and local government. Land, adding on to that list, Joe, land use code, zoning regulations, and forest fees. And remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people or coerce people or scare people into implementing it. Our word of the day, I went to, and Joe and I talked about this. We thought it was a good word. Let's see if I can pronounce it. It's one I always get tripped up on. But I thought, let's give it a try. And it's ameliorate. And that is spelled A-M-E-L-I-O-R-A-T-E. And it is to make or become better, to improve. And I think we should be able to use that in a sentence. It's how do we ameliorate our lives here in America? And that is that we realize that we are a constitutional representative republic and and that we need to be engaged at the local, the county, the state, and the national level on these issues. I know that that sounds like a lot, so my friends, choose one thing. There's one thing that must keep you up at night. Choose that one thing. Become an expert on it. Become involved in that. It is our civic duty that each and every one of us does one thing. I'm going to be talking with my buddy, Steve Dorman, as our featured guest this hour. Typically, I thought Dr. James Lyons-Weiler had been our scheduled guest, if you'd seen that in the newsletter, and he is under the weather. And so, Steve Dorman, I thought, let's do something regarding the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And Steve is going to join us here in segments three and four of this first hour. Paula Sarles, we'll talk with her. And she sent over some good news regarding the food down at Fort Carson. So we'll want to talk with her about that. And then also the Buy a Brick program for the memorial. Our quote of the day, I went to Thomas Sowell, and he was born in 1930. He's an American economist, a remarkable story, a social philosopher, political commentator, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute with widely published commentary and books, and is a guest on TV and radio. He's a well-known voice in the American conservative movement, and that conservative is conserving and preserving this idea that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. He's a prominent black conservative. And he was born in Gastonia, North Carolina. He grew up in Harlem, New York City. And it says due to poverty and difficulties at home, he dropped out of high school and worked various odd jobs, eventually serving in the United States Marine Corps during the Korean War. afterward he graduated magna cum laude from harvard university in 1958 he earned a master's degree in economics from columbia university and a phd in economics from the university of chicago and he has held professorships at cornell university brandeis university and the university of california los angeles Since 1977, he's worked at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, where he is the Rose and Milton Friedman Senior Fellow on Public Policy. And this is what he said, and so important. He said, what exactly is your fair share of what someone else has worked for? That's Thomas Sowell. What exactly is your fair share of what someone else has worked for? This day in history, a number of things that I thought were super interesting. First of all, 1799, George Washington's body is interred at Mount Vernon. In 1888, Richard Wetherill and his brother-in-law discovered the ancient Anasazi ruins at Mesa Verde in Colorado. That was back in 1888. On this day in 1916, the Battle of Verdun, the longest of World War I, officially ends in the German defeat after nine months of fighting. Imagine that, my friends, and almost one million total casualties. War is such a terrible thing. That's why we have to engage in this battle of ideas. That's why we do what we're doing. In 1917, the 18th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution authorizing prohibition of alcohol is approved by the U.S. Congress and sent to the states for ratification. Now, a weather event, and I bring these up because there were those back in the 70s that said that the planet was going to freeze. And then they said it was going to burn up. And now they say it's climate change, which is also known as weather. And the climate, well, let me rephrase that. We have weather that changes every day. The climate has changed over the years. millions of years that the Earth has been in existence. And so we need to realize that. But anytime there's a weather event, those on the radical left want to attribute it to climate change. And That is why I'd really recommend that you check out the website for climateconversation.com. You can watch the documentary for free. And then we are doing these amazing podcasts. In fact, we have one that we'll record this afternoon. But I like to show these weather events just so that you realize that these weather events happened throughout history. So in 1963, Muskegon, Michigan, gets three inches of snow. And then I was talking with a friend yesterday. She said she was out, I guess she was at Costco, and she said there's all of this Christmas stuff and it's all about the Grinch. And so we're like, when did the Grinch Who Stole Christmas come out? And amazingly, it was today in 1966. It says, How the Grinch Stole Christmas airs for the first time on CBS. It's an animated special directed by Chuck Jones, features voices of Boris Karloff, June Foray, and Thurl Ravenscroft with songs by Albert Haig. Then in 1972, Vietnam War. And we've been talking a lot about the Vietnam War and our Vietnam veterans. And we had Doyle Glass on earlier this week regarding his book, Swift Sword. And it's about the Marines of Mike 3-5 during the Swift Sword operation and their battle on 4 September 1967. And my book has arrived, so I'm going to read that over Christmas break. And then a pretty amazing America's Veterans Stories. They're all amazing. But America's Veterans Stories show. Last week, we broadcast on Sunday afternoon, 3 to 4 p.m., part one with Vietnam veteran. Carl Leppard. And this Sunday, we will broadcast 3 to 4 p.m. the part two. If you miss part one, you can listen to that Sunday night, 10 to 11. Again, that's on all KLZ 560 platforms. But in 1972, the U.S. launches Operation Linebacker 2, its heaviest bombing of North Vietnam as negotiations to end the Vietnam War collapse. And then 1996, this is during all of this I think dumbing down of our education and not setting kids up for success. And to be able to speak the language, to be able to write the language, to be able to communicate with each other is inherent in the success of our children. And so in 1996, though, the Oakland, California School Board passes a resolution officially declaring Ebonics a language or dialect. And then I thought this again. Politicians 2002 governor of California, Gray Davis, announces the state faces a record budget deficit of thirty five billion, roughly double the figure reported during his reelection campaign one month earlier. Wow, he couldn't get that right. And then 2011, the last of the U.S. troops withdraw from Iraq, formerly ending the Iraq War. And then this last one, I'm like, how does this happen? 2012, Canadian police begin arresting 17 people for the Great Maple Syrup Heist for stealing 3,000 tons from a storage facility in Quebec. Wow. What do you do with 3,000 tons of syrup? I don't know. That one was quite amazing. Let's see, our headlines that I wanted to hit. First of all, is these drones. And the government knows what's going on. I was watching some of the evening shows last night, and when Donald Trump was asked about the briefings on that, he said no comment. So my gut feeling is that this is something from the government. because the FBI warns New Jersey residents not to shoot down drones or point lasers at aircraft. And so I think that they know exactly what, who, what, when, where on these drones are. Of course, there was again on the. reports last night, there was a New Jersey mayor who said that there might be some nuclear radioactive ingredients or something that have unaccounted for. So that's super concerning. So anyway, stay tuned on this. This is so curious. Next thing, and this is from Fox News, it says Republican lawmakers are calling for political appointees who have already announced roles in outside environmental organizations next year to recuse themselves from pending business, citing conflicts of interest concerns, you think? It says in a letter to the Bureau of Land Management on Tuesday, shared first with Fox News Digital, the Congressional Western Caucus demanded the agency identify these people who are planning to join these environmental, non-governmental organizations. They're called NGOs, E-N-G-O, and recuse themselves. And the caucus, made up mostly of Republicans, seeks to be a voice for rural America, according to the website. And I was talking with someone the other day with all these billions of dollars of green going out to the Biden sending out to all of these cronies before he leaves office. And then all of these appointees then get these golden parachutes to go work for these environmental, non-governmental organizations. You talk about cronyism. That is extremely remarkable. So those are the two headlines that I want to hit right now. And we do the show because of our sponsors. And I thank the Harris family. 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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And pleased to have on the line with me my friend Paula Sarles. She is a Marine veteran. She's a Gold Star wife. She's also the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation. Paula, welcome to the show.
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Well, thanks for having me, Kim. It's good to be here.
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Well, it's good to have you. And Paula, first of all, we had reported about the low quality of food at Fort Carson. And many of our listeners reached out. Pam Long put together a list of elected representatives, people down at Fort Carson to contact. Many of our listeners did that. And I think because of that and, of course, the reporting on it, I think it's made a difference because you sent something over and said that it looks like there's some improvements, yes?
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Well, at one of the meetings I was at yesterday, one of our leaders had talked to the PR people at Fort Carson, and he said he trusted this person and said, that they were very reliable and that the problem was with fast food delivery, that they were trying to get mobile food out to the troops around the base and that the mess halls had plenty of food. They could go into the mess hall and eat. It was the fast food that was going out mobily to the troops. that they were having some logistic problems with, but they're working on that and getting it together. So I think it's maybe not as big a problem as was originally thought.
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You know what I might do is I might reach out to the reporter that broke that story at military.com because he had a picture of a plate with lima beans and a piece of toast, and that's just not acceptable for our troops. My gosh.
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No, it's not. Yeah. This guy told me that was not the case.
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We'll research more on it.
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Yeah, I think that's what I would do. I haven't been down there, and I think that's maybe something that a reporter or somebody should actually go in there and see. That's a good idea. No one at the meeting I was at had been there to actually go in and see.
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Okay, well, that's a good idea. We'll go to work on that. I'll talk with Pam Long, and we'll get that figured out. So, Paula, we talk about it on a regular basis. I'm honored to support the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation and the amazing work that you do. The Marine Memorial was dedicated in 1977, and the remodel is so important, but it's a place of great healing. When I've been out there at different events... and seeing you interact with different veterans and just hear their stories. This is a very important place for many of our veterans.
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It is. And I know personally of three suicides over the years that have been prevented. And we featured one story on our Facebook and LinkedIn this summer. And Cesar came to speak at our anniversary event and told how he came there 12 years ago and was contemplating suicide. And just visiting the memorial and talking to me and coming back for the ceremony prevented him from committing suicide. And he turned his life around a few years later with serving veterans. helping veterans with PTSD, and actually in April helped me through a little bit of an issue I was having. So the story came full circle, and it's just amazing the stories you hear of people at the memorial and how it changes their lives.
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Well, and for you and your husband, Tony, who has passed on from the effects of Agent Orange from the Vietnam War, correct? Right. Right. Okay.
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And we went there in 2002, and it was the first time we really felt welcomed home in 30 years.
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And the camaraderie that the veterans feel when they go to... There's a group of people there. It's amazing.
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So you have on your heart to do this remodel, which is amazing. And one of the great things about it, and people can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org and see the plans. The plans are really, really beautiful. And Paula, as we see our country, we've gone through a period where our memorials have been torn down or renamed or a variety of things. We need to make sure that we remember our history, that we honor those that have given their lives and donated their lives for our liberty, this liberty that we enjoy every day and we take for granted. And so I really recommend that people stop and reflect on this. Tell us about that and what's going on with them at the Biobrick Program.
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Well, the Biobrick Program is a way that you can donate to help with the remodels. And you get a nice certificate as a keepsake until the bricks are laid when we actually do the remodel. And actually, right now, we have a matching program through the end of the year. So it's a great time to do it. And it'll benefit the memorial twice as much. And we've actually sold bricks in... 26 different states as of today. I just had two ordered yesterday from New York. Wow. It's great to see people are hearing about it and moving on. That was from a contact that was made with two Dave Bray who came to play in August for our anniversary. Wow. The word's getting out.
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Well, and that's why we continue to talk about it every day. Now, Marines are, I know some Marines have reached out to me, and they're very protective. They say it's the Marine Memorial, and they were concerned about a pathways of service for our other branches.
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But address that. There's one walkway that's called the Paths to Service. and it's dedicated to all branches of service. The rest are Marine walkways. But the reason we did that was because when the memorial was dedicated in 1977 by Commandant Wilson, he dedicated it to honor Marines and remember all who served. And as we interviewed over a thousand people to come up with the design, So many of them said, we want to have a place where we can honor the other branches. And there had always been a plan for an all-services monument of some kind in the memorial. It just hadn't been designed or built yet. So the architect and I came up with the idea of having the walk of service. And that way, if I have a brother or an uncle that's in the Army, And my dad's in the Marine, and I'm a Marine, and we can put it all together, have a brick together on that walkway. Or if I had a good friend that was in the Army that saved my life, I could put that on the walk of service and honor him. So it really is a nice way to honor them, and we do plan to. I have a smaller monument on the walkway that's to the all branches. It has to be redesigned because it's Space Force, but we're getting there.
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Okay, well, and I actually have purchased two bricks. Paula, one for my father, who was in the Air Force, and he passed on just a little over a year ago, last December, last December 1st. And it was one of the most treasured gifts that I'd ever given him because if you buy a brick, you get a beautiful certificate. And he had that in his room on the wall. And so it was really, really special to him. And then I shared the story of his cousin who was killed at Pearl Harbor. And his remains were identified just a few years ago, and those were brought home to to Mound City, Missouri, for a final resting place. And you suggested, well, why don't you buy a brick for Wilbur? And so I did that as well. And I'm so glad that I did. So thank you for that opportunity.
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Well, I'm glad that we could do that. And there's lots of room for bricks. And as we move forward and get the land across the streets in our building, there'll be way more bricks. So we're really excited for people to use this opportunity to donate.
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Well, and how can people do that and get more information?
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They just go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org and click on Buy a Brick.
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Paula Sarles, again, that's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Thank you for all that you do to honor our Marines and our other military and veterans. And I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas.
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Well, and you too, my dear. Thank you so much.
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for a weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. and very pleased to have on the line with me my colleague, fellow board member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, Steve Dorman. Steve, welcome to the show.
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Oh, good morning. Top of the morning, Kim. Great to be with you and the smartest audience in Denver.
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I agree. It is the smartest audience in Denver. And one way that they can get even smarter, or maybe I should just say more informed, is to become a member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And we're going to be ramping up here after the beginning of the year for the next legislative session.
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coming upon us very quick. As you know, there's a lot of work involved by a lot of volunteers to read those bills. And we look forward to the duty, but it is duty. And we could use membership. We could use people. If they're interested in helping read bills, we'd be interested in having those folks jump on board.
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And I always like to say thank you to our fellow board members, Steve, and that's you, obviously, Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honecker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, and Mary Jansen. This is a group of volunteers that is spending a lot of time going through these bills so that you can be informed. And Colorado Union of Taxpayers was founded in 1976. So these volunteers have been watching legislation all of these years. Last year, I just checked from our Bill Track 50, there were 792 bills that were proposed in Colorado last year. We don't need one more law. much less 792. And we, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, took positions on 259 of those. And so we'll look at the bills and take a position if it affects taxes, fees, property rights. You know, those are the things that we really look at, Steve.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, exactly. If you asked me to identify core values for us, it would come down to four, in my opinion, and that would be smaller government, lower taxes, defense of TABOR, and also we're very much in favor of choice in education.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. And so we take stands on all that. And it is a commitment. But yet, don't you feel very informed with the work that you're doing? And we have a front row seat to what is happening down at the state legislature. And There's some pretty radical activist stuff that is presented. And so, first of all, we have to know about it so that it doesn't get bias. And what I found frustrating on this sometimes as we're looking at these bills is that we have Republicans, well-meaning Republicans, that are sticking their names as co-sponsors or sponsors on these bills. And I hope this year we can... It's really time intensive, but to interact more with the legislators, because I think maybe sometimes they just don't understand. So I think we need to maybe ramp that up a little bit, Steve.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I agree, Kim. We don't always do a perfect job of communicating with them how we are rating bills, and they just don't understand why would we not like their bill. And I don't know if they take it personal or not, but it's certainly not personal with us. We're rating based on principles, smaller government, lower taxes. And that's what we're about. We are the union of taxpayers. The taxpayer is our focus.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and who is the taxpayer? It's all of us. And so that's why people should care. It doesn't cost that much to join us, Steve.
SPEAKER 20 :
$25 a year. Now, you think about it. How many special interests are there in Colorado? And there are a gazillion, every one of whom has a lobbyist. And the taxpayer doesn't have one, they think. They actually do have one. And it's us. It's the Colorado Union taxpayer is their lobbyist. And all we ask is for a $25 a year membership to help us support us in our work. We do have some expenses. We're pretty lean on spending it for ourselves, but we do have some expenses, some of which, you know, come out of our pockets. But we have some expenses, and we could use some help.
SPEAKER 15 :
And so people can go to – the website is coloradotaxpayer.org, and we have a new website, and it's beautiful, and we have more things that we want to do with it. But you can actually click on the Support Cut tab there at the very top, and then that will take you over so that you can make a contribution. Now, we've got a really – important event that will be on January 23rd it'll be at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association CADA and there's great parking it's located on Speer near Broadway and the cost is well basically we'd encourage you to renew your membership and or join at that time. It's $25 for that, and then just $10 to attend the event. And it will be our legislative kickoff, and we would love to have people join us for that, Steve.
SPEAKER 20 :
Absolutely. We had our first time ever at CADA, which is a fantastic facility, the Automobile Dealers Association at Spear. And I think the address is 200 Spear. I'm not sure. But anyway, it's a great facility. It was well attended. It was content rich with legislators there giving their views. We had opportunity for people to interact with legislators one on one. before our program began. Fantastic event. Just show up and mingle with some legislators. You can tell them what you think and ask them what they're thinking. So it's a great event on January the 23rd.
SPEAKER 15 :
And we will be honoring our cut legislators that made the cut, if you will, Steve Dorman. And we're really pleased about that. But we're really going to try to reach out to all legislators and really even reach across the aisle to – to try to communicate, I would say, with all of our legislators to try to have them understand how important it is to get government back in its proper role, limited government, and that if people have more money in their pocket, They thrive and they flourish, and our economy will thrive and flourish. And I'm starting to see headlines, Steve Dorman, of these terrible policies that have occurred here in Colorado and the continual assault upon TABOR, our Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. We used to be near the very top regarding GDP of states in the country. We're in the bottom ten now. And it's because of public policy. And I think people might say, well, how can this happen? We've got great organizations such as CUT and other organizations here in Colorado. But we've continued to move further and further to the radical extremist left. What do you say to people when they ask you that question?
SPEAKER 20 :
Kim, I... you know been thinking about this and in the past Colorado was a deep red state and people who think like you and I do they didn't have to do much it would happen automatically that we would get a good conservative legislature but times have changed our demographics have changed and the same people who think the same things are still waiting on someone else to do it now I came on the show telling you that I think you have the smartest audience in Denver, and I do, but some of them could do a little more. Voting is great, but it's not enough. You have to do something. So again, I encourage people, join Colorado Union of Taxpayers, $25 a year, and if you're so inclined, we'd be glad to have you help us in reading bills. The only way to change the direction of the pendulum is for people to actually do something. Voting's not enough.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and when you join us, so what happens each week is on Friday evenings, this Bill Track 50 software that we use, and it was created by a woman that used to live in Denver. She lives in London now. And it's really creative. Actually, she calls it Bill Track 50 because she does this for all 50 states and Congress. But for us in Colorado, she will populate all of the bills that are scheduled for hearing for the next week. and then i as president go through those uh it can take a while and try to look at them as through this lens as you mentioned these four things that we really focus on and if i think that a bill might fall within that realm then i put it on to our software and each of our our board members has a column where they give give what they recommend as a rating and their reasoning And then if we get to a majority one way or another, or it could be do not rate, we'll either take a position, yes, no, or we won't take a position depending on what happens there. And then I take all those comments from our board members and collate them together to make a statement. put that in an email and we send that to all the legislators, the governor. And if you're a member, you will also get that each week. And I tell you, it's one of the best ways to stay informed. I think between us at Colorado taxpayer and then the great work that, and I know you help Sue more as well over at Liberty scorecard. I think those two volunteer organizations are, are cause we don't have a, a vested money interest in what we're doing. It's the principles that we're looking at. And you will be so informed that it, and knowledge is power, Steve. So I'd really recommend people join us so that they get those emails.
SPEAKER 20 :
Kim, you hit the key right there. An informed electorate will get us what we want. But just knowing vaguely about issues without knowing specifics, knowing who sponsored such and such bill, I've talked to people who think that if their candidate has the right party designation after their name, they must be okay. Not so much. So you have to be informed, and CUT is an excellent way to stay informed, be involved, and not be just part of the great masses.
SPEAKER 15 :
And people can join us by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. It is $25. And then you'll be getting the information also about our event on the 23rd of January. We're going to continue this discussion, which is so important. And we normally talk with Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages on Wednesdays, but the Fed is meeting today. So tomorrow, Lorne is going to give us an update today. He can help you with your mortgage in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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SPEAKER 15 :
and welcome back to the kim monson show be sure and check out our website that is kim monson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it Another nonprofit that I dearly love and support is the Center for American Values. It's located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. And really, it's a very special place. And I highly recommend that you take the kids down there sometime during Christmas break to take a look at these portraits of valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients. It is a very reverent place. It's an inspiring place. And so to get more information about their hours, location, check that out at AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. I have on the line with me my colleague, Steve Dorman, who is a fellow board member on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers Board, which is an all-volunteer organization that has been watching legislation in Colorado since 1976 and super important work. First thing, we also do this ratings report. uh steve dorman that is it's a really good report where we will actually delve into about 30 different bills and give our scorecard reports and just all kinds of information people can find that at the website but there's a lot of work that goes into that and it comes out after the legislative session
SPEAKER 20 :
Absolutely. It has, as you said, 30 of the bills that we might call the most egregious bills out of the 200-plus that we rated. What was it, 290 we rated last year? Or 259.
SPEAKER 15 :
259, okay. And...
SPEAKER 20 :
This report contains every legislator's score and the most egregious bills. So you'll be very well informed on what was most important that happened during the last session. You know, I keep hitting on people being informed and being involved, and I was thinking about my own participation with CUT. I had known about the Colorado Union of Taxpayers for years, but never did anything with them until... 2017, I was a legislative aide to a really good representative out of Weld County, Lori Sane. And Lori displayed her awards on her desk proudly, dusted them off, polished them. She loved her cut awards, and she was very proud of them. And so after that session, I did. became involved and sought out Bill Hamill, who is our treasurer, and asked him how I could be involved. And so I would encourage others, find a way to get involved, if not with CUT, with some other organization. But again, voting is not enough. You have to do something.
SPEAKER 15 :
You really do have to do something. And I think sometimes it can appear overwhelming, though. Just regular, everyday, hardworking Coloradans just trying to take care of their family, their jobs, you know, keep it all together. And they go 792 pieces of legislation. That is overwhelming. I almost think it's overwhelming by design. But again, the fact that we delve through this and and we stand for limited government and more money in your pocket, less taxes, protect Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. And so I did want to and let's address this just a little bit. Our 2024 Colorado Senate taxpayer protectors in the warriors, our taxpayer warriors are Senator Kevin Van Winkle, Senator Mark Baisley and Senator Rod Pelton. And there are two Peltons in these categories. as representatives, or I guess they're both senators, and they're cousins. But this is Senator Rod Pelton, who is a taxpayer warrior. Over on the House side, our taxpayer champion was Representative Stephanie Luck, our taxpayer guardians, Representative Ken DeGraff and Representative Scott Bottoms, and our taxpayer warriors, Representative Ron Weinberg, Representative Brandy Bradley, and Representative Don Wilson. Now, we added a new... category uh this year because it's pretty tough down there at the state house with um the governor and and a majority in the senate and the house it's pretty tough uh i think to be a legislator down there that's really representing the people isn't that crazy well yeah it is and
SPEAKER 20 :
It's not as if we don't understand the difficulties that a minority has on their shoulders. They do have to compromise from time to time to get anything done, or more importantly, to stop something bad from happening. So we understand the difficulties. It's not like we are completely separated and apart and oblivious to the difficulties that they face.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that is why we added in this taxpayer warrior category as well. And Representative Luck, I think this is an important quote from her, and you can see again this at our website, coloradotaxpayer.org. She says, "...the Colorado legislature increasingly disdains people's inalienable right to property and contract, which means that a family's wealth amassed by hard work, often over generations, is increasingly at risk of being taken." While it will require all of us acting together to reclaim our societal understanding of first principles, legislators should lead the charge by voting to restore good governance and secure the rights of citizens. She pretty well nails it there, Steve.
SPEAKER 20 :
You know, Representative Luck is one of my personal favorites. She's just such a nice, nice woman, an attorney, I think, by trade from South Colorado. And, yes, she thinks about issues, and she thinks about them in big terms, the big picture. She's not focusing on winning a vote or – You know, her personal brand, she's principle-oriented, and that's what makes her one of my favorites.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and let's talk a little bit about the governor. The governor is – I've heard from legislators that nothing happens down at that statehouse without him really knowing about it, approving it. And sometimes it might be somewhat strategic. And this last week he had a photo op for people that – are watching. I think it's effective. He had on his desk pages and pages of regulation and he was taking a buzzsaw to it to try to imply that he's getting rid of regulations. But that's why cut is so important is because we're watching the legislation, how they're setting up new bureaucracies or empowering bureaucracies, running around Tabor with these enterprise zones. All of these things are happening. Meanwhile, He is I think he is pretty smart from a kind of a political posturing standpoint. And what do you think about all that?
SPEAKER 20 :
Kim, our governor, is a champion chameleon. He can be anything to anybody, depends on who he is talking to at the moment. And I have also heard what you just said about his involvement with the legislature. He is the invisible hand guiding the directing the play.
SPEAKER 15 :
And this play is really, Colorado is becoming, Denver is dirty and it's dangerous. We're seeing from an economic standpoint, you know, they were riding on the coattails of the great effects of TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. And we have seen the continual chipping away at that, at the local, the county, the state, the special district levels. And we're starting to see the effects of that. Our GDP is in the bottom 10. And we used to be in the top. And we're seeing more and more commentary from different industries about what this overregulation is doing. And we've got to get this turned around. Otherwise, Colorado, which used to be such a desirable place, is no longer desirable.
SPEAKER 20 :
In days gone by, the two political parties, I think by and by, mostly wanted the same things. We wanted good education. We wanted prosperity, health, clean communities. We wanted crime free. And we just disagreed on how to get there. Today, I don't think the two parties even want the same things. We have one party who is borderline anarchist. They are all in favor of no bail for the most violent of criminals. There is no limit to how much taxes that they want to collect and spend. And so we no longer want the same things. And it's incumbent upon those of us who look for smaller government. We have a duty to stand up and be involved.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, absolutely. So, Steve Dorman, it is an honor to serve with you on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. I appreciate all of your hard work.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I hope we were able to ameliorate support for conservative principles this morning.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well done, Steve Dorman. Well done. We'll talk soon. Thank you for all you do. You bet. And our quote for the end of the show is from Thomas Sully says, what do you call it when someone steals someone else's money secretly? Theft. What do you call it when someone takes someone else's money openly by force? Robbery. What do you call it when a politician takes someone else's money in taxes and gives it to someone who is more likely to vote for them? Social justice. So my friends today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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And I really enjoyed the conversation with my colleague, Steve Dorman, with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And again, we're ramping up for 2025. So join us. You can do that at coloradotaxpayer.org. That's coloradotaxpayer.org. check out our website that is kim monson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well and thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it and um Let's see here. You can hear the show 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. This is on all KLZ 560 platforms. And that's KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website. and the KLZ app. And then also the next day we have our summary of the show posted on the website. You just click on the image and it'll bring up the written summary as well as the podcast. And then you can listen to those podcasts also on the streaming services such as iTunes and Spotify. Our word of the day is ameliorate. And Steve Dorman was able to use that in a sentence. And it is to make or become better, to improve. And I think that, let's see, what would it be? We need to ameliorate the legislation that is being proposed down at the statehouse and so that it reflects a limited government and limited taxes, fees, more money in your pocket. So that is our word of the day ameliorate. And it's spelled A-M-E-L-I-O-R-A-T-E. Again, A-M-E-L-I-O-R-A-T-E. Our quote of the day is from Thomas Sowell, which he is an amazing economist, an amazing story. He was born in 1930 in Gastonia, North Carolina. He grew up in Harlem. And it says, due to poverty and difficulties at home, just think about that. And those are two of the things that many say that would prevent success. And actually he overcame that. What a great story. He had dropped out of high school. He worked at various odd jobs. Then he served in the United States Marine Corps in the Korean War. And after that, he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University. And just an amazing story and a great understanding as well of economics. But I love this quote because how can you answer this? What exactly is your fair share of what someone else has worked for? And I remember I was in a conversation, this was many years ago, with somebody that was actually advocating for more and more taxes, saying that more and more taxes could help people, and that they felt just fine paying more and more taxes. And trying to imply that because I wanted to keep more of my money and make the decisions on who nonprofits or who I would want to fund, or perhaps I might want to hire somebody to help me around my... house or something, and instead of just giving money away, but to trade value for value. And so again, there's this kind of altruistic claim on other people's money, and that is not the way it is supposed to be. So that was our quote of the day. And several of our headlines I wanted to go through. This is from the Baltimore Sun. It says President Joe Biden's approval rating in November was 37%, the lowest mark for any U.S. president at that point in their first term since former President Jimmy Carter, according to the Gallup polling. Interesting. I almost wonder how it could be 37%. And of course, there's this narrative that they're trying to say that we have this great economy and everything's great. Well, the world is in a more dangerous place. The Biden administration, the Biden-Harris administration is putting up all kinds of roadblocks in front of Donald Trump and his new administration. It seems like they are trying to get us into a World War III situation. It's just all kinds of things that's happening. I can't believe that there even is 37% of folks that are approving of him. And then this next thing, this is so irresponsible. Here we are at December 18th. This is from Fox News. And I guess this was published yesterday. Congress unveils bill to avert Friday government shutdown with over $100 billion in disaster aid. If we all lived our lives like this, it's so irresponsible. So they have to have things figured out by Friday. And this is all on Tuesday. We need to demand more from these elected representatives. And it says that congressional leaders are unveiling this plan. Again, you're unveiling the plan on Tuesday to avoid the shutdown on Friday. We, the people, would like to take a look at it. And so it says House Republicans release this. It's 1,547 pages, a short-term extension, a fiscal year government funding levels to give lawmakers more time to agree on funding for the rest of fiscal year 2025. And that may be a good idea. Maybe with the new administration, maybe that is their strategy. And it goes on to say it's the second such extension. It's called a continuing resolution since fiscal year 2024 ended on September 30th. And it says the bill extends fiscal 2024 government funding levels through March 14th, while including more than $100 billion in funding for disaster relief after storms Helene and Milton battered the U.S. southeast just months ago. I'm wondering as I'm looking at this, if this is from a strategic standpoint, is to get more of that funding over into when Trump, his administration, is in place. And we've seen, though, as the continual counting in some of these states that the majority in the House has become razor thin. And it seems like they keep counting until the Democrats win. It seems like we've got to get to a point where we decide everything on Election Day. And next thing, this again, California. It says, and this is from USA Today, California raised the pay and thousands of people lost their jobs. And then it goes on to say, wake up liberals. And this is an opinion piece. And it is by Ingrid Jacques, I guess, USA Today. And it says that... Perhaps California Governor Gavin Newsom thought the $20 minimum wage hike he signed into law last year for most fast food workers would magically skirt the principles of free market economics. If so, he was wrong. The Democrat governor clearly buys into the progressive fallacy that government intervention in the private economy will will yield positive results. And it usually doesn't. Says the law took effect in April and in a 10-month period since the mandate kicked in, the Golden State shed more than 6,000 jobs. That's roughly 1.1% drop in fast food employment. So... What happened to these people? Are they now on government assistance? What happened? It says, in contrast, during the same timeframe a year earlier, before the law passed, the California fast food industry experienced a 3.1% increase in employment. We have talked about it on a regular basis. Forced minimum wage. Ultimately, there will be some that will be paid more, but there will be people that lost their jobs. And what percentage of zero is zero? It's zero. And so. We've got to make people understand that we've got to keep government out of the private economy. And people have looked to government for answers, and government is not the answer. One other thing I wanted to mention is that AOC lost her battle with Pelosi over the – Oversight Committee post. So there's infighting certainly within the Democrat Party, and it appears that the radical activists, the really radical activists, may be losing some of their power. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it is Wednesday, so that means it's a Trent Luce Wednesday. You know him. He is a sixth-generation farmer and rancher and shedding light on the people that feed and fuel us and our freedom. All those things are under attack. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 21 :
Hi, Kim. Frosty here in central Nebraska today.
SPEAKER 15 :
Is it frosty? Well, it's supposed to be get up to in the 50s here in Colorado. So but we've got a lot to talk about. So let's start with what you had sent over yesterday. You texted over and that is regarding our power shortages. And this is a Morgan Stanley report. So what should people know about that?
SPEAKER 21 :
yeah i found that interesting it is a morgan stanley research project and they what they did was they took a look at the proposed and planned data mining and ai centers through the next three years through 2028 and the long story short with the demand that will increase exponentially through these data centers and the destruction of our reliable supply of electricity, being natural gas and coal in particular, we will be 32 gigawatts short of electricity for the demand within the next three years. 32 gigawatts with a demand of 57 total gigawatts.
SPEAKER 15 :
So this is because of the data centers and also because of AI, yes?
SPEAKER 21 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
So out here in Colorado, this has been going on for a long time, where I would say it's maybe energy shaming. And that is that your neighbors can get a report on how much energy you use. And, of course, the implication is it's bad to use energy. And we need to be conserving energy. But how is it that these data centers and AI get a pass on using more and more energy?
SPEAKER 21 :
I went to a data center a few years back. Actually, it was about this week, three years ago. I got a call from a gentleman in southwest Kansas who worked for the local electric co-op. And he called and he said, Trent, I think you want to come and inspect what's going on at this data center they built just outside of town here. So I went down there. I looked at it. And I didn't really understand Bitcoin mining. I didn't understand any of this data processing at the time. And once I went to look at it, it's just massive computers in these little module buildings that they have to continually keep cool because they're just constantly running like a rapid engine. And then I went and did research into this. The average transaction of one one transaction of a data mining center, it requires 1739 kilowatt hours of electricity. And to your point, that's the equivalent of two months household, the normal household for two months of electric bill, just one transaction. And they do zillions of transactions in a given day. And the reason this guy called me is he said, I know that their electricity bill is $600,000 per month. And it's like, how can we think this is sustainable? And then you dig farther into this, Kim, and you find out that that one that I looked at, which many of those in this country are, owned by entities from China. And the one in Kansas is owned by an entity that was in Chicago. But if you go look, it's easy to find that this is a Chinese-based company owning. And then to make it even more disheartening, not interesting, disheartening, You learn that in 2021, China decided they're going to ban the infrastructure of data mining and AI centers because guess what? They are too resource intense. They require too much electricity. But they're coming to build them here. And we are incentivizing and providing subsidies to make it happen.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. That's what right there. We've got to stop these grants and subsidies. That's one of the first things that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk need to do, I think, is we've got to stop that. And those are going out to the local and the county and the state level, and we've got to stop that money trail because all that money is being used on a variety of things to undermine us. It just makes no sense. Okay. And what do you think about my... I just came up with that, and maybe somebody else has already talked about that, but energy shaming. We've got energy shaming out here in Colorado. And, you know, it may be that people use more energy at their home because they are... They may be working from home. They may have a bigger family. There may be a variety of things that play into that. But there's this energy shaming where your neighbors can see just how much energy you use. And the deal with Excel should be this. You provide energy. I pay for it. I make the decision on how much energy I want to use. You, Excel, work to figure out a way to provide reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy at the lowest price possible. And right now, that energy source is oil and natural gas and coal, Trent.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, absolutely. We have 800 years worth of coal left. And let's just talk about Colorado because How many times have I been to Steamboat Springs? And I usually go when I haven't been for quite a few years. But I would go because the National Stock Dog Finals were in Steamboat Springs each year. And you're driving around out in the country and you see all of these abandoned coal mines. Why did we abandon all of these coal mines? We have 800 years worth of coal left in this country. And we have, speaking of China, I think most people know they're permitting one new coal-fired power plant each week. They're not building that many, but they're permitting that many. And if you look at the most recent data, the utilization of coal to produce electricity globally increased by 2.6%, a pretty significant jump if you look at the standards of the past 40 years. And we're decimating coal as an energy source here. We're still kind of maintaining our status quo with natural gas. But we are trying to completely abandon coal, the reliable, affordable supply of electricity industry, While China and India both build and continue to grow, we're getting rid of it. At a time when we're incentivizing more demand. But we do have a bit of good news, and this may sound very strange. But, you know, we've talked about this electric corridor that was to be built across Oklahoma through eastern Colorado. This week we got news that the Oklahoma portion of that corridor is canceled.
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Really? How'd that happen? Yes.
SPEAKER 21 :
Don't know. All I know is that we've been throwing a fit and the people locally have been standing up. And every answer that I have for every dilemma we come up with, Kim, is that we must address these things at the local level. I know there was a tremendous amount of pressure put on state legislators and now state legislators are trying to take credit. And I don't think they were as responsible as they want us to believe. But it comes down to the people at each county who are standing there saying, no, this is not something we want. Now, while that may sound counterintuitive, we need more electricity. We have an infrastructure that handles the natural gas and the coal. The reason they wanted to build. all of these new infrastructures of transmission lines is because they're trying to shift how and where electricity is produced. And we know that intermittent electricity through solar and wind is not going to generate the reliability and the affordability that we can have with the resources such as coal and natural gas. Look at California. California tops the list in terms of kilowatt per hour, 36 cents per kilowatt hour of electricity. The national average is 17 cents. I'm very lucky. Custer Public Power, we pay less than 10 cents. Let's get back to the basics and what people can actually afford when it can be very affordable. It does not need to be 36 cents a kilowatt hour.
SPEAKER 15 :
But then what happens, PBIs lose their control. Correct. And that's one of the things this is all about. So this is – it's really just dumb. I don't know what else to say. It's just dumb for us as Americans to be doing this. And I think that people still are taking so much for granted and don't understand that right underneath the surface, this – this really blessed life that we have here in America with what still appears as a semblance of liberty and still being able to generally afford life. I don't think people realize that all that is really very tenuous and that's why we have to engage in this battle of ideas. So I want to change gears here. And I saw this headline the other day and had meant to mention this to you. This was a couple of weeks ago. Tyson Foods has said that it's going to close an 809 employee facility in Kansas by mid-February. And then I'm seeing this other headline from three days ago. It says, Animal Charity Hopes to Convert Meat Plant into an Animal Empathy Museum. Okay. So talk to me, first of all, about Tyson closing this facility.
SPEAKER 21 :
You're talking about the beef facility at Emporia, Kansas. But I don't know why. I'm really intrigued at this. That beef plant captured attention, got headlines. But on the same day, Tyson announced that they were closing four different plants, meat processing plants around the country. The only one in the beef world. was the one in Emporia, Kansas. Well, that's not true. There were some further processing plants. Two of them were in Pennsylvania. And at the same time, Smithfield Foods, owned by WH Group from Hong Kong, a China-owned entity, has announced that they are going to spin off a portion of their pork production in the United States, which, if you don't know, China currently represents and owns one in three pigs produced in the United States. So what does that mean that they're going to spend that off? What does it mean that Tyson is reducing and Cargill at the same time talked about reductions in the meat processing? It all means that we're going to be more vulnerable in our food stability than anybody realizes. because it's much like the coal conversation, and it's why it's so important to talk about what's happening with coal because you've built an infrastructure. You can have coal, but in order to get it to the coal-fired power plant, put it in the transmission lines, and send it down to the people who need it, that's the infrastructure that you don't just wave a magic wand and it's there. When we lose the infrastructure for food production... again, you can't just wave a magic wand and say, okay, we're going to go back into this. Now, let's also not ignore the fact that there was a grand opening last week in North Platte, Nebraska, for a producer owned in partnership with Walmart, I might add, beef sustainable, it's called a sustainable beef plant at North Platte. And so that's infrastructure that's coming online. And we can't ignore that. And at the same time, there's a a brand-new what they're calling state-of-the-art cattle feed yard, which is going in in Binkleman, Nebraska. So we're not just eliminating old infrastructure, but you have to pay attention to what's going on with that so that we do not become vulnerable. And we are. We already are. Again, we're relying on imported food, and that is not a place we want to be.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and it's not necessary. The American farmer and rancher has been if they don't have their hands tied and if they don't have all of these increases in their input costs, they can feed the world. And they've done that before. I remember my father said he he loved what he did. He wanted to take care of his family and he wanted to feed the world. And we were getting to a point where we were. there was less hunger in the world. But now these policies will make it so that we're going to have more hunger in this world. So that's why we have to have these discussions. And very appropriate that we're having this discussion as we talk about Lavaca Meat Company. It is really a premium product, a premium beef product and great protein source and truly that steakhouse experience at home.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I wanted to mention the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. Roger's been in business for 48 years, taking care of his clients and his family and giving back to the community. And you don't stay in business for 48 years unless you strive for excellence. It is an amazing agency. And so set up a complimentary appointment to go over your coverage. That phone number is 303-795-8855. Trent Luce is on the line. He is a sixth generation farmer. farmer and rancher and we talk about uh fuel and uh fuel and freedom and fiber and uh few what is it food fuel fiber and freedom i guess it is how's that uh and it's under attack and this what's that that works Okay. Bird flu. We're starting to see more and more headlines about bird flu. And then the answer is to destroy flocks. And when you destroy flocks, you destroy food source. So is this our next pandemic?
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It is. I have no question about that. I've been talking to folks in California. The folks in California, particularly the dairy industry, are starting to reel in this and I want to get back to the dairy industry because it seems to be affecting the dairy industry extremely at a high level. But this has been an interesting 30 days as it involved food prices, and Teresa Platt, who joins me from France on Across the Pond, was in California for a couple of weeks, and she was paying $9 a dozen for eggs, and we talked about that. And so when she was telling me that, I went and looked across the board, And wholesale egg prices had gone to $7.50 in California. And many states throughout the nation were reporting accelerating cost of eggs. And it seems as though that's relaxed a bit in the last week. I find that fascinating. I looked it up this morning in our Grand Island, Nebraska, and just a run of the mail grocery store, eggs are $2.88 a dozen today. But I do believe that there is a priming for something to come because all of the avian influenza at this point has been, they've tested it and they've said that it's H5N1. H5N1 really is very limited to birds and now we find it in lactating cows and that obviously is not new. It started happening in Texas in February, Texas and a little bit of Kansas. I really believe that they will mutate this because the gain-of-function research was done in 2014. I can find all the documentation into H7N9, which is much more aggressive and much more serious to the human population. But what is more troubling than anything is how some of our commodity groups are reacting to this. I have many friends in Wisconsin. Wisconsin, obviously, we know is the cheese state. Wisconsin is full of cheeseheads and dairy farms still scattered throughout Wisconsin. And a friend of mine who, family operation, they milk, I think they milk 60 cows. He called me the other day and he said, Trent, we are being forced to test every cow now. for H5N1 avian influenza, dairy cows. And we've seen restrictions and limitations on dairy cows crossing state lines due to regulations, and Michigan's been a terrible state for this. Anyway, my friend, longtime friend, 30-plus years, is currently the executive of the National Milk Producers Federation. I sent him a note, and I said, what's going on with this mandated testing of avian influenza and cows across the board? Well, it's not costing them any money, and we're just going to verify that this is not a serious problem in the industry, then we'll move away from it. And I said, Greg, I want to take you back to December 28, 2003. It was a major day for me as it relates to the government and controlling of food and doesn't care what it costs. Ann Veneman, speaking at a press conference, who was then the Secretary of Agriculture for the United States Department of Agriculture – Ann Veneman had a press conference and said that in an abundance of caution, we will remove all critical material from a beef animal because, for those that may not remember, 2003, December 2003, we had what we called the cow that stole Christmas. That was a cow that tested positive for bovine spongiform encephalopathy, BSE, in the state of Washington. And so what happened as a result of that, Kim, is that Ann Veneman put in place a new rule that cost the industry $150 per head to do. And guess how long that went into play before it was rescinded and they no longer did it.
SPEAKER 15 :
You said that was 2003?
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Correct.
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Six months?
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It's still in play today. Oh, okay. So once a government regulation, something in an abundance of caution, is put into play on behalf of the government, you can't show me where they ever take it away. What does that mean? What does that mean to the consumer? It means that we have continued artificial cost in getting the food from our farms to our grocery stores to our consumers today. What are they doing in Australia where we're now importing a record? I'm not picking on Australia. I'm just giving a point, even better yet. What are they doing in Brazil, another place where we've accelerated our importing of beef? Are they removing the specified risk material of every animal in Brazil and importing it into this country? We don't really know. And yet we require this threshold of hurdles in the name of protecting the consumer from what? We just have a government that's completely out of control and continuing to pile costs, which brings me back to my biggest gripe that's ending the calendar year 2024 in the agricultural world. We're now approaching a $45 billion trade deficit in agricultural imports versus our exports. And what I said is we're importing $45 billion more agricultural products than we're exporting. We are a resource nation. Exactly how can that be?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, my. Well, we know this. Okay. The PBIs that are in charge, they do not want people to be entrepreneurs. They want people to be relying on government. You're an American rancher and farmer. They are the epitome of the entrepreneur. And so it seems like they are on the very front line of all this regulatory and legislative attacks. And in doing so, it's crazy that we have an import deficit on food products. I guess, okay, let me back up.
SPEAKER 21 :
Forty-five billion, Kim. Forty-five billion.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. I do find it, though, amazing that it can be December in Colorado, and I can go and get avocados and blueberries and oranges. So I do think that that's pretty cool. But $45 billion, I can't get my brain around this. I don't quite understand how this can be happening.
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We're importing a record number of amount of beef into the United States right now that we've ever imported. But it comes back to one thing. Do you know how many miles the average food travels from production to consumption in the United States alone? No. 2,000 miles. Hmm. In contrast... In 1992, when the Soviet Union busted up and those, what was it, nine countries, I believe, all like Latvia, Ukraine, they all achieved their own individual status. The average food mile at that time when that country broke up into individual countries was 50 miles. If you can't see that our food miles puts us in a vulnerable situation, look, 80% of all produce grown in the United States is grown in the valleys of California. I was literally on a strawberry farm in Chino, California one day, and they were picking strawberries. They were packaging them right in the field, putting them in a crate, and that night that crate was going to LAX. It was in the bottom of a commercial flight. The next day, those strawberries were consumed in New York City. Well, that's tremendous as long as that infrastructure holds itself. But when you have restrictions in fuel, when you continue to make fuel more expensive and harder to come by, how are you going to continue that? We've become very vulnerable. Exactly. We've become so vulnerable. And quite frankly, when you start putting it on a plane and bringing it from L.A., if you can put it on a plane and bring it from Buenos Aires cheaper – People are going to do it. The market is going to go to where the lowest hanging fruit is, pun intended. And that's exactly what's happening. We are importing food because they have less restrictions in other countries and less cost to get it to the consumer. That's, at the end of the day, what's happening.
SPEAKER 15 :
And it's the PBIs, it's the rules and regulations and taxes and fees and all that that's making the American product more expensive. This is in from a listener. Let's take this question, then we'll go to break. It says, Trent, what needs to happen so that Americans and American companies own these processing plants and own more ranches and farms rather than foreign entities? I know that's a loaded question. What would you say to that?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, I think that's a great question because if you look at all of the recent investment in American agriculture and food, it's not domestic investment that's happening. It's foreign investment. And I had a situation last week from Japanese folks coming into Illinois looking at buying corn with a lower carbon intensity score. We didn't even know how to generate a carbon intensity score. Now, all of a sudden this week, I see Japan is talking about investing in American agriculture again. We have such a limiting factor. And look at what BlackRock, BlackRock, who now I understand is maybe going to be purchased by the Israel Sovereign Fund. And BlackRock owns eight to 10 percent of all of these food companies like Tyson Foods. That's a BlackRock driven company. John Deere is a BlackRock driven company, along with Bill Gates, the largest independent owner. You have all these people who do not care about the United States citizen who continue to come to the forefront.
SPEAKER 15 :
So what do we do about that? How can we get well?
SPEAKER 21 :
There's one easy answer. Where do you spend your money? Do you go spend your money at Lavaca Meats? Or do you go to Walmart and buy products as cheaply as you possibly can? Because Walmart does not care about where it is produced. While Walmart does own part of this 51% of this plant that I'm talking about that's opening in North Platte, Nebraska, for the most part, they import those products because they can import them cheaper. So the consumer absolutely is the driver in this scenario. But I am continually told it takes too much time to go buy from people that I know and trust. I just have to be convenient. That convenience... is driving us to an imported food nation. No different than we are with steel, than we are with lumber, than we are with textiles. 87% of all textiles, all clothing is made outside of the United States. And at one point in time, great state of Colorado. And look at the western slope and all the sheep and the merino sheep and the wool industry that was there is gone because we went to the store to buy the cheapest product instead of buying from somebody who has our interest at heart.
SPEAKER 15 :
But that is innately the consumer. And to be fair, people, of course, I think it's all connected, but people are being so squeezed because of taxes and fees and government-induced inflation that some people have to make that choice for the cheapest, best product that they can purchase, Trent.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I agree 100%. That's why I bring it back to the testing of avian influenza in dairy cows. That's why I bring it back to the bovine sponge form of cephalopathy example from 2003. And I just looked it up because I wanted to have my own data. The steel industry in the United States imported in 2014, 10 years ago already, the steel industry imported 39 million tons of steel today. and exported 11 million tons. We're following the same path of so many industries before us. We've got to get back to maintaining the people and the skill set that we have to take care of these resources and produce the essentials of life for mankind, domestic, here at home.
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Good morning, Trenton, Tim. There's a lot on my radar, but let's just start with this. Let's go back to 92, Daddy Bush signed on to Agenda 21. Bill Clinton then put in Executive Order 12852, saying, So what we need to do is to create sustainable development in the U.S. So the first thing or second thing that Trump needs to do is to reverse that executive order that takes us off and out of the game of sustainable development. And then we start defunding all these NGOs. So the U.S. out of the U.N. and the U.N. out of the U.S., So, you know, we go back to the Hegelian dialectic. They create the problem. We suffer. They have the solution. Well, Trent is talking about meat production and all our food supply being reduced. Well, just recently at this COP 29, the U.N. speakers declare war on farmers. Producers of meat and dairy should pay for the damage they cause to the climate. So they're calling for a meat tax. So now it comes down to me personally, over 100 years of homestead land in southeast Colorado. Trent mentioned that they abandoned the line coming through Oklahoma. How will that affect the connectivity up into southeast Colorado? Because right now, my 96-year-old fighting aunt and my brother are trying to fight against All the other ranchers in the area which see this as a windfall for them because now they can't make a living ranching. So my brother and my 96-year-old aunt are trying to fight against ranchers who have short lot syndrome, and plus that transmission line will go directly through our homestead down there. So how will this affect us up here in – Colorado. Because wasn't that line also to connect into Elbert County? That's the thing. This transmission, none of the electricity that's generated out there stays into the area. And what is it? A third of it is at least lost in transmission.
SPEAKER 15 :
There's a lot there, and she's super informed. What about that? I was thinking that same question. If they're not going to let that transmission line go through Oklahoma, then does that mean that the one in Colorado is dead in the water as well?
SPEAKER 21 :
So there's no message about that yet, but, Jenny, thanks for bringing that up because I was going to mention it before. I would, even though there's no indication that that's the case, It would stand to reason that if they cave in Oklahoma, they should be able to cave in Colorado. But do not overlook Jenny's point about people who are willing to sign up to take the dollars. And why are people willing to sign up to take the dollars? All of the reasons we talked about before. We have a government that has created such an unsustainable scenario, despite the terms of sustainability by Bill Clinton or whoever else said it. created such an unsustainable, high property tax, high input costs, two families working. They look at this as a lifeline when, in fact, it's not a lifeline. It is the final nail in the coffin if you cave and take money from any of these projects. And how we explain that, I'm not sure. But what I do know, Jenny, is that if we get enough from one of the counties that are involved in this transmission line, We'll get the same result that we've gotten in Oklahoma, and we absolutely need to do that. The only other thing I'm going to take issue with you on is that Donald Trump coming in, if he truly wants to be a constitutional president, instead of going back and reversing those executive orders you mentioned about sustainability, he should say executive orders are not constitutional. I hereby disagree.
SPEAKER 15 :
ban all of them we will have zero input from the past executive orders and there will be no new ones and that will fix virtually everything yeah that is uh that's really important we had some um i wanted to try to get to some of these uh text lines as well um okay first question did trince say over 1700 kilowatt hours to mine one bitcoin is that what you said Whoops. Did we lose him there? Okay. Okay. Let's continue on here. Okay. Let's see. So Joe, just confirm with me that we're on here.
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And how is Andy as we get down this home stretch to Christmas?
SPEAKER 14 :
Andy's doing pretty well. Andy is getting ready for Christmas. I'm pretty close. How about you?
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, winding down, checking off those few little things left to do. And for me, on the business end of things, this is the last full business week of the year. So my end of the year is Friday, basically. Are you pretty pressed?
SPEAKER 14 :
I would think a lot. You see, I think that's common, though, John. I think a lot of people are really busy. And this is one reason that I think there are a lot of mental health issues at this time of year. Now, obviously, there's those who are feeling lonely, right? Where's my family?
SPEAKER 12 :
It's very pressured this time of year, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
But also, it's high pressure. You're trying to get in so many things before the end of the year and also before Christmas.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. All right, question of the day yesterday. Who wrote, Christmas doesn't come from a store. Maybe Christmas perhaps means a little bit more. Charlie, anyone? Dr. Seuss. Said that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I thought it was going to be one of the people Biden's pardoning.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, that could be, too.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm just saying. But there's so many. Never mind.
SPEAKER 12 :
But really quick before the next question of the day. OK. Some of the people that he has pardoned are absolute scum, Andy. Absolute scum.
SPEAKER 14 :
How about three Chinese spies? How about people who.
SPEAKER 12 :
How about Chinese spies that on top of that are addicted to child porn and the abuse of children and so on that top that one off?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you know, his son needs a group to get together with.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a groupie thing? Yeah, it's a groupie thing. A groupie pardon?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah.
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Unbelievable. All right, today's impossible question. In the old days, women in England. I don't know what the old days means. I don't know how long ago this was. But in the old days. Last week. Women in England who wanted to find a husband ate what at Christmas for good luck? Any idea, Charlie? He has no idea. Andy? What did they eat at Christmas for good luck? To find a man.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, now they eat chocolate any time of the year, and they don't need them anymore.
SPEAKER 12 :
Charlie said peppermint. Nope, wrong answer. I would have never guessed this, so... Okay, I got nothing. Okay, those of you that may know the answer... Mistletoe. That way it's always there. It's always there. So you have to kiss her. Answer that on the social media page, Rush to Reason. Don't forget, we also need Christmas song requests for Christmas Day. A lot of you... By the way, as a reminder, like that day. So if you like that day and there are special requests for songs you want to hear on Christmas Day, you need to make that known. Let us be aware of that.
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It's helpful.
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It helps Charlie a lot. No, Charlie said mistletoe is poisonous, by the way. I didn't know that. Oh, well, don't do that, ladies. All right, before we get rolling, we've got a special guest joining us here at 315. Prior to that, though, some of you out there may have seen this. I happened to see it because one of you as listeners sent me the original video of where the round earther was going to take four flat earthers. to Antarctica to watch the solstice, where the sun is up for 24 hours. It literally just circles the horizon, because that's what it does this time of year, because we live on a globe, proving we're not on a flat Earth. So there was a... offer to flat earthers where i didn't realize this trip was this expensive it was 35 grand a piece per to bring these four flat earthers along with this and he brought some other folks that were you know guys like us that believe in a sphere world anyways brought them to really show them that yes in fact this is a real place no there's not an ice wall and yes we do live on a globe and one of them in viewing all of this, and he's one of the biggest Flat Earth proponents, has a huge following, podcast, the whole nine yards, YouTube, et cetera. He actually, in his own words, literally when you look at him and they're interviewing him as this is happening, he was up for 24 hours straight, and he's dumbfounded. He is like, I guess I've been wrong.
SPEAKER 14 :
No kidding.
SPEAKER 12 :
I am sorry. Okay. I'm going to have to basically go back to the drawing board, I guess, because I can't answer what I just saw.
SPEAKER 14 :
Did he also confess that two and two equals four?
SPEAKER 12 :
He didn't get into that, but you can tell by looking at him that he was extremely perplexed Because his whole, I mean, some of these people, Andy, as you know, their whole almost faith system is built upon this whole flat earth nonsense.
SPEAKER 01 :
They're crazy.
SPEAKER 12 :
Back it up with Scripture and all sorts of other things, which they're misusing Scripture when they do, which, by the way, is very heretical in and of itself. So the reality is if you're one of those that's a Christian that believes in a flat earth and you use Scripture for that, you're a dodo head. Sorry, you just are, because there is nothing in Scripture that talks about a flat earth, period. In fact, quite the opposite. Right. It's quite the opposite. If you really read Scripture, you'll figure that out. So don't take what some wackadoodle out on YouTube or TikTok or Facebook is talking about a flat earth, because they are literally wackadoodles. And one of them went from being a wackadoodle to our side, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Let me ask you something, you know, at this time of year. What would be easier for Santa? A globe? Or a flat plane? Probably flat Earth. I mean, really, though?
SPEAKER 12 :
Probably cover more ground, couldn't you? I don't know.
SPEAKER 14 :
Now, do flat earthers believe that there is just... Stackable. Do flat earthers believe that there's only people on one side of it, or they believe people are on the other side of it?
SPEAKER 12 :
They have a whole different view of how the continents are laid out in the whole nine yards. If you look at a flat earth map with the ice wall, it's very weird.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, but we're all faced up then.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, so what do they think is on the other side?
SPEAKER 12 :
We're on sort of a sphere where the bottom side is still very deep so that when we drill and do things like that, that's their explanation to, you know, being able to go down several miles into the earth and even the trenches that we have that are deep in the ocean and so on. That's their explanation.
SPEAKER 14 :
But why wouldn't we venture to the other side just for the heck of it? I mean, we are explorers. We have jets.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, they don't believe we've ever been in outer space, these same people, Andy. They think all that's a myth. They think that's all made up by NASA.
SPEAKER 14 :
But you wouldn't have to go there. John, you wouldn't have to go to outer space. All you'd have to do, it doesn't matter if there's an ice wall, you take a jet. A jet goes over an ice wall.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, we have a firmament that keeps us in. This is not me speaking. The firmament keeps us in. Yeah, the firmament keeps us in. Which, by the way, the firmament went away during the flood, just so you all know. All you flat earthers, again, if you're really going to go with Scripture on this, go look up the flood and what happened and what God talks about in relation to the firmament we had prior to that that surrounded the whole globe, by the way. Right, and then the waters from beneath and above, yeah. That's right. So we had one of those prior. By the way, that's why men lived to be almost 1,000 years back then, because they didn't have the UV rays and all of the other things that we have environmentally speaking prior to that.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, John, that's one of the things that made it hard for me as an atheist was the ridiculous amount of evidence for a global flood. It was just like after a while. It's huge. Yeah, Ken Ham always called it, okay, there are billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the world.
SPEAKER 12 :
So that's one thing I've never asked a flat earther is how do they, because a lot of these people are Christians. Yeah. How do they explain the flood, Andy?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, they don't believe in that flood. Who knows? They don't believe in it. They probably believe in a localized flood, which is ludicrous because why did God send the rainbow was to promise he would never do that again. That's right. But he sent lots of localized floods, so he lied. Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
None of the theories hold up, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, here's what I want to ask before we go to break. Yeah. Why are so many of these, and I'm going to, can I use the word kook? Yeah. Why are so many of these kooks on the right? I don't know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, because we've got a guest joining us, we've got a couple minutes. Let me explain what I think.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
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Number one, we tend to feel, number one, a ton of mistrust for government, which I get. That's fair. I am one of those. I don't trust government either. Now, I'm not willing to go out on some of these kooky, you know, wackadoodle beliefs and so on just because I don't trust government. I haven't trusted government for a very long time. I still don't go off on some of these tangents and believing some weird stuff that doesn't exist and isn't real. Right. Now, also, I do understand, though, Andy, that because of that distrust, if you would, they're looking for other things that they can have faith, I guess, in. And unfortunately for a lot of these Christians that claim to be flat earthers, their faith is in the wrong spot. They're looking for physical faith versus the spiritual faith we all have in our Lord. Right. By the way, they're replacing him, I believe, with a different kind of faith. Shame on them.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, they replace them with a lot of wacky theories.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's not just flat earth.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, no, it's all sorts of stuff. Yeesh. Talk a little bit about that. If you guys want to listen to the New Year's Day podcast for NCR, we get into some of this because we recorded it today, actually, a little insight, and we talk about some of that, Andy, in that way. And it really is amazing to me how many conservative Christians— believe in some of these whole, you know, wackadoodle things like aliens and spaceships and there's underwater cities and on and on we go. And it's just utter, absolute nonsense, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, I just worry about Santa crashing into the ice wall. That would be terrible.
SPEAKER 12 :
Could happen. Reindeer all over the place. In their world, that could happen. Broken reindeer. That's the other thing I've never understood about flat earthers is how do you explain... Because we do know there are two places, north and south, pole-wise. They're both very, very cold. Well, they're not poles. They're walls. I don't know how they explain the center one, you know, the... I guess in their world—let me think about this. I think I can explain it, because they believe the sun travels around the ice wall, and it's traveling around us. We're not traveling around the sun. The sun's traveling around us, and it's much smaller than what we actually believe it is. Is it held up by a drone? Might be. Okay. With wires. Okay, got it. Flying around. Anyways, they believe the sun circles around the flat Earth, so I guess the center then would naturally be colder. But I don't know how they explain the ice wall and not melting when the sun's actually closer there— Again, none of it to me makes any sense. I try. Literally, I try, people. I do. I try to be compassionate towards those that are very foolish in their beliefs, but I struggle, Andy. I will say one last thing.
SPEAKER 14 :
When have flat earthers ever taken round earthers to the North Pole or the South Pole to prove their theory and had round earthers say, my gosh, you're right?
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Todd Watkins joining us now. Todd, welcome. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 15 :
I am well. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 12 :
Always nice to have you. All right, give us an update on our illustrious local Colorado GOP.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, let's see. They've retained a An attorney, I guess he just got admitted to the bar in September is my understanding. A fellow named Matt Arnold.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very familiar with Matt.
SPEAKER 15 :
We are very familiar with Matt Arnold.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think I'm glad to hear that.
SPEAKER 12 :
And you can tell that there's not a lot of excitement in our voice on that one, Todd.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think it's hilarious. Matt Arnold to run their corruption committee.
SPEAKER 12 :
The guy that probably could be the poster child for is now going to run it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think it's hilarious. Well, it takes one to know one, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Literally.
SPEAKER 15 :
My goodness. Anyway. So, yeah, he's the head of the corruption. That was an unforced error, huh? Head of the corruption committee. And the first order of business is to come after Nancy, me, Eli. I believe Christy Ruckus is actually on their team.
SPEAKER 14 :
in their on their target also look here's the thing uh todd we'll get to i know you're calling in on another topic but really quick this is a hit squad yeah okay he's going to chair and this is amazing because we got to keep in mind the uh colorado republican party and you were there when they were talking about it at the colorado republican party headquarters they launched rhino watch which Which is a hit site. We're talking... This has never been done before, okay, folks? In fact, I'm not just saying Colorado. I don't know a state where the Republican Party... has put together a hit site and a hit squad and lawyers and spent $100,000 on lawyers to attack everybody. But long story short, I have never seen a Republican Party heading up any state, Todd, that has put together all of these teams and squads and things to simply go after Republicans they don't like.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. People they don't like.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I mean, to Andy's point, I mean, that's what this, you know, corruption committee is. Correct.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's just kind of part and parcel with the whole Rhino Watch thing. I mean, I was there when it was conceived, when it was stood up. I've got emails announcing it, you know, hey, we're looking for content, almost ready to launch, and kind of some of the metrics behind it, how many people saw it, how many people opened it, etc. I can tell you exactly who's involved with it and prove it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and they put people like Heidi Ganahl on their wall of shame. She was our governor candidate. Anyway.
SPEAKER 12 :
Before you move on, one question I've got, Todd, because it probably might even layer into what you're going to talk about next, but I just have a question because in the article that I read where they were talking about Matt Arnold now coming on and becoming part of this, you know, head of this corruption committee, they talked about how in relation to you and the lawsuit and so on, They have spent hundreds, over $100,000 defending all of that. Now, Todd, again, I'm a business guy. I've been involved in different sorts of suits over the years with the business that I have. Different things happen, and sometimes you end up even in trial, depending upon what the situation might be and so on. Granted, mine involved probably more insurance than other things. But regardless... The cost of the attorneys is probably roughly the same. And Todd, I will tell you that even some cases where it may take two years dragging certain things out to get all of your fact-finding done, I have never in my life seen a bill that big on the legal side. Am I wrong?
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree. I was on the law enforcement side, so I'm allergic to lawyers. It sounds a bit exorbitant.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, really quick, so for all of you listening, so you know where I'm coming from. I took just $100,000, Todd, divided it by... Five hundred dollars an hour, which, by the way, is a very high priced lawyer. And I don't I know the firm that they're using. And if they're five hundred an hour, it's way overcharged for what I feel is the experience level there. And I wouldn't pay them five hundred dollars an hour. But let's just say, in fact, they did. That's roughly, I think I did the math. It's roughly, let me do it again because I did this last night in the elevator on my way down. I apologize. Normally I've got this off the top of my head. If you take that number really quick, 100,000, and we divide that by 500 an hour, 200 hours they would have had to spend, Todd, on your particular case, which I guarantee you has not happened.
SPEAKER 15 :
It seems a stretch. I'd also like to point out that they're the ones that started the legal proceedings. They're defending what they're defending against. We're attacking.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, they attack. That's right. Good point. No, no, really good point. And my point, for all of you listening that are on that side, because I know a lot of you that are on that side, listen to me. You're being snowed. You're being, you know, your money that's going to the GOP is being used for this nonsense, and they have spent that money. I've seen it on the FEC reports. And, Todd, either something nefarious is going on, and there's money back-channeling in some places that it shouldn't be, or else these guys at the law firm are just crooks. I don't know which.
SPEAKER 15 :
lining their pockets that's for sure i i've been told that they have the state party has six accounts and i couldn't tell you if all of those are actually reported you know to fec or to the secretary of state and i don't know which pot of money
SPEAKER 12 :
They're paying the Dave Piggott law firm out of... Well, I tracked $60K worth on the FEC report, and I didn't go back far enough, so there very easily could be the other $40K that they're... Regardless, they're claiming publicly that they spent $100K on this, and I just want to know where the money's at, because that's way too much for what they've got.
SPEAKER 14 :
Look, let me take us a step back here. Here's the bottom line, okay, Todd? They are spending all this money on lawsuits because they're being attacked from all corners of the Republican Party here in Colorado. And the question is, OK, why are they being attacked? And the answer is very simple, because right from the outset, when Dave took power. He has been abusing power and attacking fellow Republicans. And all people like you and Eli and us and Natalie and everybody, all we've been asking of the state party is this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Accountability.
SPEAKER 14 :
Will you please stop attacking Republicans?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well...
SPEAKER 15 :
i mean my gosh they're working for republicans that's their job keyword todd that andy said a moment ago dave took power yeah dave didn't take accountability for leadership and there's two big differences there right well he's not a leader he has zero leadership uh qualities i've seen nothing of leadership in him all i have seen is just the uh it just abject, uh, power mongering. That's all I've seen.
SPEAKER 12 :
Me too. Well, I've been calling it out for a very long time now.
SPEAKER 14 :
Um, should we, before the break or after?
SPEAKER 12 :
Keep going.
SPEAKER 14 :
We're going to keep going. Well, um, for those who don't know, you were part of a, um, a meeting that happened on X and, uh, there was a lot of people were invited onto this and that was by Natalie Tennant. She does a great job and they were, Natalie's going to be calling in by way next Monday. Okay. Um, And they were on there. You were discussing a whole different issue that was happening in Douglas County about whether they needed to appoint another commissioner. And I don't I don't want to get into that. But a lot of people were invited to come on the call. And one of those people happened to be a guy named Chavez, Anthony Chavez.
SPEAKER 12 :
Who we'd never heard of, by the way.
SPEAKER 14 :
Who we'd never heard of. It just happens that this guy, apparently, he helped cure some ballads in a close election. And therefore, he got an invite. And he came and he asked some tough questions. Later, he sent, apparently, some emails or messages.
SPEAKER 12 :
Tweets. Tweets.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, so some tweets at the state party that were incredibly threatening, and they were. They were. And he made himself a viable threat. He was a real threat, and they had to call the cops on him, which they did.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, I'm not defending this guy, but he did come out afterwards and say, that's not what I meant. I was using some... Yeah, he backed... Metaphors and things along those lines. I'm not sure I believe all of that. But regardless, he backed way off of those right afterwards. I think once he realized, oh, crap, I probably shouldn't have said the things that I said. But regardless, Todd, he backed away from that. And what we're seeing now from the state party is they feel threatened for their lives daily.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and since then, the state party, and we're talking about Dave and Hope mainly, Dave put out an email, Hope put out a whole slew of posts on Facebook. She and I got into it again a number of times. Bottom line, they say this. that the reason this guy did this is because of people like you, Todd.
SPEAKER 12 :
Because of you, Todd.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because you had this meeting. And therefore, you are responsible for everybody who signs into a meeting. Right. And if anybody who signs into any meeting that you do...
SPEAKER 12 :
And comes out of there unhappy and threatens it's your fault. Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it's because you are, and here's the big thing, Dave, Todd, Dave is saying that because you're critical of the state party.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, one step further, and you instituted a coup, direct words that they put into the newsletter.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, because you did a coup. In other words, because you tried to remove them from power. Which, by the way, thank you for doing that. It needs to be done. That simply by doing that, by trying to remove them from power, you incited violence. You incited these kinds of people, like this Anthony Chavez. You caused this. You were fomenting violence by doing this, Todd.
SPEAKER 12 :
So what say you, Todd?
SPEAKER 14 :
What do you say, Todd?
SPEAKER 15 :
They sound like AOC, the squad. I get... I get flashes of Maxine Waters here, especially what's, you know, the last two days I've been accosted by this woman down here at the gym.
SPEAKER 14 :
At the gym.
SPEAKER 15 :
Who is a, you know, she's part of Vicki Tonkin's inner circle, Dave Williams' devotee, although she's not part of the state central committee. And she's come up to me and, you know, hollered at me, you need to stop talking now. speaking out about the state GOP because you're going to get people killed. It's your fault that this happened.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, now wait, she says this to you while you're at the gym? Yeah, working out.
SPEAKER 12 :
Unreal.
SPEAKER 14 :
Does she at least give you a spot to help you out?
SPEAKER 12 :
That's crazy. I mean, honestly, Todd, this is how loony these people have become because literally what they're doing is exactly what the left does when they want things shut down. They will accuse things of not being the way they are. In fact, they'll accuse others of doing what they do.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it's straight out of Saul Alinsky. Yep. Absolutely. I mean, Todd, how are they any different than the Democrats saying that Trump was inciting violence by saying that he was robbed of the election? Trump never told... Trump told people to march peaceably and patriotically. He never told anybody to, you know, break through windows and doors. Trump did not incite violence in any way, shape, or form. There was no insurrection. He didn't do that, right? But the left says his free speech... was dangerous to them. The state party is saying that your free speech is dangerous to them. How are they different? Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
That is exactly what is happening. And I want to stress that this woman didn't say, stop telling lies. stop attacking. She said, stop speaking out against the state GOP. I'm to hold my tongue because they don't like what I'm saying. I hope she thinks about what it was that she said, because I think that was a bit of a Freudian slip.
SPEAKER 12 :
Todd, these are what cults do, by the way, because any time you start calling out the leader of the cult, the members of said cult will call you on the carpet for doing exactly that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct, because if the leader is wrong, they're wrong. Yep. What they're doing right now is, first of all, they're playing the victim. And don't get me wrong, I believe that this guy made himself a legit threat and needed to have the cops called on him, which they did. I'm cool with that. But they went beyond that to weaponize their victimhood to try to silence all of their critics. And so now what they're saying... is they're telling their people, anyone who criticizes us is endangering us. All because of one guy, by the way. There haven't been a flood of these people. One guy. And by the way, at that meeting, none of you ever said one single solitary word calling for violence, right, Todd? Oh, absolutely not.
SPEAKER 15 :
In fact, the vast majority of the airtime was between Hope Scheppelman and and this Anthony Chavez guy, whose name, by the way, I did not know until the next morning when Dave accused us of conspiring with him.
SPEAKER 14 :
And how was the meeting, really quick, how was the tenor of the meeting? Was it confrontational or was it... just pretty blah. Honestly, it was kind of a sleeper. Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
So it wasn't like this, you know, rah, rah, cheer, let's get things handled, let's get these guys out of office, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Did you hand out torches and pitchforks?
SPEAKER 15 :
Hope went on there, and actually, there's an article Jimmy Sangenberger wrote.
SPEAKER 11 :
I saw it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think it was published today that does great synopsis of That meeting. It was a lot of hope was went into kind of a mea culpa. You know, there are things that have happened that I need to take ownership for. And I just want to patch things up. And she was asked at the end, you know, are you happy with this? Oh, this is great. Would you come back? We do another one. Will you come back? So absolutely, I will come back. I think I think we got we made some progress here. Boy, she took a different turn the next day after that guy went off. And now it happened in the meeting. Well, you can't have it both ways, Hope.
SPEAKER 12 :
So question I've gotten. This is just me. This isn't Andy or anybody else. This isn't even KLZ. This is just me asking a question from, you know me, Todd. I'm kind of a common sense driven, you know, blue collar kind of a guy. If I didn't know any better. And I didn't trust the current leadership, which it's not, the power brokers, I should say, at the Colorado GOP, which I do not. I would almost say this guy was a plant.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I would halfway agree, except a couple other people said that they – well, they knew him. So could somebody on the state party side have – encouraged him or you know to get on there or groomed him for this purpose who knows but if he was he would he not have disrupted the the call though i i'm My gut tells me he acted completely on his own. Well, yeah, but here's... Maybe a little unstable.
SPEAKER 14 :
But, Todd, I mean, if he was planning on... Look, if what they wanted was victimhood so that they could weaponize it, which is what they've done. They're weaponizing their victimhood to try to silence dissent, okay? If they were planning on that, then they need to be victims of something, which means that they would have planned to have this guy threaten them all along. And so all they needed was a setting for him to attend where you guys were.
SPEAKER 12 :
To put the blame on.
SPEAKER 14 :
So that they could attach him to you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Point of blame.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I mean, he certainly could have attacked and threatened Hope on the meeting. She was right there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, but Todd, no offense, Todd. At the end of the day, though, that still doesn't accomplish what they want at the end of the day because what they got with this guy going out onto X and publicly displaying what his thoughts were, they had a much larger audience in all of that and now can blame you guys and the meeting that you had and me for being – Andy and I for being on the radio and saying the things that we say. I mean, collectively, we're all against them, and it's the reason why this guy did what he did.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, it's not outside the realm of possibilities. And, Todd, I only say that because I don't trust any of them.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I'm sorry, my brain doesn't think that way on the front side, but I could see this from the backside looking in, and I trust none of them in leadership at the Colorado GOP right now. Nothing would surprise me, not given what they just did with this last hire, by the way.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that's lunacy. Good point. True. My only thing that makes me question it, John, is... Really quick, by the way.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hang on tight. Real quick. Also, Todd, is it not super coincidental that we've got Arnold right after this? That is weird. Guys, come on now. I mean, really. I mean, again, I'm just a common old redneck. I know I don't have a lot of education and so on, but when you start looking at this in light of some of the things that I am saying and you start putting the piece of the puzzle together – You gotta wonder.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because the Arnold hire obviously did not just happen overnight. This is something they've been grooming.
SPEAKER 12 :
But they needed something to trigger it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, they needed something to trigger it, and now they can say, we are endangered.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, he promised back in November that he was going to do something along the lines of this. Once the elections are over and before the new year, we're going to have a path forward to persecute you know, those who disagree with us. So I considered Matt Arnold to be part of that and was probably in the works since then.
SPEAKER 12 :
I thought, correct me if I'm wrong, the GOP, Colorado GOP, was complaining about, you know, the lack of funding and we couldn't do more to help our candidates because we just didn't have the money we needed and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but yet we just added another hire and we've spent over $100,000 on lawyers.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
What part am I missing, Todd?
SPEAKER 15 :
Obviously, someone's lying.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you. There you go. Thank you.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's the cop in me.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, thank you. I mean, I look at it the same way. It's like, wait a minute. You can't talk out of both sides of your mouth. You can't be broke and spend 100 grand plus on attorneys that, by the way, are either way over billing you or were being sold a bill of goods, although the FEC report shows a lot of money being spent with these particular attorneys or this particular law firm. And then, oh, by the way, we're going to also add another hire into the office right after the election.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we also have to keep in mind, and this is in the words of Mark Hampton, who is from Rhino Watch, Dave is going to do a purge. of people in the new year. He wants to purge people off, I guess, the SEC or purge dissenters. I forget exactly how he wants to do it. But Dave had come out and said, we're going to go after some of these people. We're going to, you know, we need help rooting out the problems and so forth. So as Mark Hampton says, and he's a huge ally of Dave, that they're going to do a purge. But Todd, aren't they in the meantime trying to purge dissenting voices by using the victimhood of this one kook?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yes, exactly. Also, in order to purge people from the state central committee, they need to rig basically 64 different organizational meetings in February.
SPEAKER 14 :
I wouldn't be surprised if they were not trying to infiltrate a lot of those. I'm sure they are, yeah. Right. There you go.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, because my feeling is they just infiltrated the meeting you had not long ago. I'm going to stand by that because I don't trust these guys at all.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, we know they were there. We recognized at least five people.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, I meant you guys were set up is what I mean. Yeah. Sorry. When I started reading all of those things, my number one immediate reaction as I'm reading these tweets and I'm watching the newsletter that went out and I go do a little bit of tracking and I start reading what's going on, I'm thinking to myself, first of all, who is this guy? Never heard of him ever. And I've been around things for quite some time here in Colorado and interviewed all sorts of people, Todd. And I'm like, wait a minute, that guy's name does not ring a bell whatsoever. This guy is a patsy if I've ever seen one. And you guys were set up.
SPEAKER 14 :
And why was he using lingo like the health care shooter? I mean, come on. I have no idea.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's where I think he's, you know, he has some issues because there was a lot of non sequitur in his posts.
SPEAKER 14 :
It was ludicrous.
SPEAKER 12 :
And if I'm a Dave, and I'll close with this, if I'm Dave Williams, and I know there's somebody out there like this that really I don't even have to give a lot of instruction to, but just have them sort of quietly hang out knowing that most likely something is going to get triggered and they're going to do something like this afterwards, even if I don't have to say a lot to make that happen, and I know it's going to happen, I'm still going in that direction.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sure. I mean, the whole plan, if it is, as you say, where he you know, lurks and engages during the spoken part and then goes absolutely, you know, bonkers bananas on the written part. It's a stupid plan, if ever I've seen one. It just, the two do not comport. He was not that way on the spoken part. And then if he failed in his mission there and then tried to make up with it by going completely haywire in writing, It's such a turnabout. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, okay, so you being a cop.
SPEAKER 15 :
He's highly unstable or he failed and he's trying to make up.
SPEAKER 12 :
You being a cop, what's that old saying? If something doesn't smell quite right, it probably isn't. This one doesn't smell right, Todd.
SPEAKER 15 :
There's a professional term, hinky. This is very hinky.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. All I know is this, whether he was a plant or whether he just came out of the blue, the fact is that the state party has been using that one incident exactly as the Democrats used J6 for a couple years. Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sorry, I've got to throw this out there, guys. Who caused J6?
SPEAKER 15 :
The Dems?
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you. I mean, I believe they did. I think there was a lot of insightful things going on with some folks with the letters FBI that had a lot to do with what was going on that day. There's been all sorts of things proven that these guys were there in plain clothes. You can spot them out of a crowd almost anywhere. How about Ray Epps? Yeah, Ray Epps. I mean, Todd, we can go down the list. So tell me if that happened over there, why is what I'm saying so far-fetched? And I've said it all and I'll keep saying it. If I didn't know any better, I would tell you Dave Williams is a dem plant.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're not the first to say that. Not the only one to say that, I don't think. I've heard that from a couple people.
SPEAKER 12 :
I've been saying that for a while now. Either way, he is their best tool.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. Whether intentional or unintentional, he's doing the job.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct. Todd, I'll leave it at that. You're always welcome to call in. Appreciate the update, sir.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, appreciate it.
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. So let's, really quick, indulge me for a moment, all of you, when it comes to this whole, was this a particular situation where there was a setup involved in getting somebody to do something after the meeting, not during the meeting, but after the meeting, to then allow somebody the quote unquote leadership. And I put air quotes around it because they're not, but that allow those that are governing the GOP in Colorado right now to then go on attack like they're currently doing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, the reason you would think that's possible is the way that they have used it. They have literally seized on this, this one, you know, this tweet by this one guy, this Anthony Chavez, who none of us had heard of.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't know him.
SPEAKER 14 :
I asked Eli Bremer. Have you heard of him? No. Todd, have you heard of him? No. Natalie, have you heard of him? No. Um, Nobody had even heard of him. Comes out of the blue and gives the state party the one thing. John, they're blasting it all over the state. We are at risk. I know. We are under threat. I know. And they're saying we will never.
SPEAKER 12 :
They're using this for everything they can.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, we will never stop speaking up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Never let a crisis go to waste, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. Especially if you create the crisis.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, here's, again, indulge me. And Andy was asking during the break, well, you know, how do you get a guy to do all of this knowing that when it's all said and done, he may very well be questioned by the cops? Simple, Andy. You find a person that literally is a little bit, and I don't know this for sure, so please just, again, indulge me, but you find somebody that maybe is a little bit out there on the edge. Okay. Where you realize that really all you have to do is get them to show up to a meeting, listen in a little bit, ask a few questions, and then afterwards just start poking them with the right buttons. Right. Boom, boom, boom, boom. where you know by doing so, they're now going to just flare up. And respond accordingly.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, I would think in the case of this guy, if he did it, they literally, he's working with them. Could be. Could be.
SPEAKER 12 :
Although, Andy, there's enough loons out there to where if you get the right person going, it doesn't take much to encourage that.
SPEAKER 14 :
I know, but his wording was so similar in some aspects to what the shooter said. Because he was saying things like, oh, no, he was like the subway guy. Right. Because he was saying, I've got bail money. I don't care. I know. In other words, I will do harm to you and I don't care about what happens to me because I can bail myself out. I can afford to have bail money. Yeah. And that's exactly what the subway shooter said. Correct. I mean, why would somebody. And that's a recent story. Repeat what the subway shooter basically said. I mean.
SPEAKER 12 :
You have to wonder, have they been coached? I don't know, Andy. And again, I'm not accusing. I don't know, folks. Please don't anybody out there say, well, John Rush said blah, blah. No, I'm just... No, we're not saying we know. Hypothetically speaking, could that be possible given what the current GOP leaders... Notice I'm not using leadership because they don't know how, but what the current leaders are doing with this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And they keep using the exact same words that the Democrats used with Trump fomenting, inciting. OK, they're using the exact same words with this, with, you know, Eli and Todd and Natalie and so forth. They're using the exact same words with them that the Democrats used with Trump. They're using it exactly the same way. The Democrats did pretty well in 2022 off of J6. I mean, they were able to ride it that long.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Again, folks, I don't either. It's just a theory. One thing's for sure. Can't back it up. I don't know.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, the thing that makes it so bizarre, and I'll end it with this, is that there was absolutely nothing in the meeting, nor has there been anything that has been put out by Natalie and her group. You know, the people who tried to remove Dave? None of them have put out anything remotely violent in any way, shape or form.
SPEAKER 12 :
Nor have we here on air. The things that I've been talking about, by the way, long before anybody else got on that train. I just want to remind everybody, Andy and I were on this train. We started the train. And I literally am being very honest when I say this. Literally, it didn't take me more than about a month. After Dave took over chairman to start seeing through what was actually going on, and I was calling it out openly on air, some of the things that he was actually doing, I still am. And have I incited anything? No, I'm just calling the guy out for what he is. Yeah. A charlatan.
SPEAKER 14 :
I was worried immediately, and due to some other reasons, things I saw in meetings, his people were going out and bashing Christy Burton Brown. But... It was about a month after you were calling for him to step down than I was beginning to.
SPEAKER 12 :
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All right, we are back. A few seconds left of this particular hour. We've got two more hours coming your way, of course, so always remember that. And we've got a couple of guests we'll be interviewing over the next couple of hours as well. And then Andy and I, probably next hour, will be covering a little bit about the Democrat Party and have they lost the culture.
SPEAKER 14 :
They have lost the culture, and I want to talk about why. You know, what has happened to them where they have absolutely lost the culture? Because it used to be cool to be against Trump. Now it's cool to be with Trump.
SPEAKER 12 :
And this next guest, by the way, Harry Fisher, we're going to talk about, he has a book, Safe and Effective, for profit, a paramedic story exposing American genocide. Some of that, by the way, I believe, Andy, plays into some of what you're talking about as well, because people are finally waking up and they're fed up at the same time.
SPEAKER 14 :
Are you seeing a little COVID aftermath?
SPEAKER 12 :
A little bit. So we'll talk about that next hour. Don't go anywhere, folks. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Payton. Of course, Charlie Grimes, your engineer. Harry Fisher joining us now. As I said earlier, he would be author of Safe and Effective for Profit, a paramedic story exposing American genocide. Harry, welcome. How are you? Hey, doing well. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it. By the way, you are in good company. We have been talking about some of these things literally since COVID has been going on. We've got a doctor, Dr. Kelly Victory. I don't know if you've heard of her, but she's been joining us literally every week and is on the front lines of a lot of what you are talking about. And I'm excited to hear from you, by the way, because it's not often we get to talk to somebody who's actually on the front lines, literally the way you are. So explain some of the things you actually saw.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Dr. Kelly, she's great people. I talked to her with Dr. Drew not too long ago. Absolutely, yes. Good, but I guess one of the first things that I saw was the fact that people were dying in the actual Pfizer lines. That was what started my whole process of trying to wake people up. I was called out to a scene where someone died after taking their shot, and the nurse there actually said this is the second one in two weeks. So as far as I know, in that one line, two people died within two weeks, but that's the only ones that I know. I mean, that never made front-page news. You didn't see that everywhere else. So there's no telling how many people died.
SPEAKER 16 :
To your point, Harry, as you know, that stuff didn't fit the narrative of what the politicians and I really feel like the Marxists, that didn't fit the narrative, so there was no way they were going to let the public know that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, no, they're never going to let you know when they're killing you. I mean, at this point, I would love to say that it was an accident or just an experiment gone wrong. But whenever you start censoring people like me who are trying to go, hey, I'm on the front line trying to warn you, they're trying to kill you and you censor me, then that's intent. So they're trying to kill you. I mean, how do you say that nicer?
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Harry, did you notice a number of people in the medical community basically covering this up?
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm covering it up. They're just too scared to talk about it. Most of them are just way too scared. I mean, in the last three weeks, I've lost a job because I wouldn't give the COVID shots. And this is twenty twenty four. And they all see this happen. And even my friends that are in the field right now get a hold of me on the fly and they go, Harry, why do you keep talking about it? Well, because they're killing you and your family because they're still doing it. You don't have to take the shot anymore.
SPEAKER 16 :
Go ahead. No, no. What I'm saying is your answer is because they're still doing it. That's why. Yeah, because it's happening.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, they're not mandating it anymore, but... But they are.
SPEAKER 16 :
They're not mandating it, Harry, but I know. I've been around enough. I've got some situations going on in my own family with my folks. My mom recently passed. My dad's in memory care. And I can tell you just from being around more of that than I probably ever have been or, frankly, Harry, want to be. I'm a car guy, not a doctor. But I have seen and watched and heard things and been around things that, to your point, it's not that they're requiring it, but they're still heavily pushing it.
SPEAKER 15 :
then they are still actually requiring it. Yes, they are heavily pushing it to your point, but they are requiring it depending on where you're trying to get a job. Like I've tried to get a job since I recently got fired for not giving the shots. I tried to get a job and they told me, unless you have your shot and an up-to-date booster, we can't hire you. So even though they need people to the tune of paying way too much money for people, they still won't hire you unless you're up to date on your poisonous booster shot. So that's still happening to this day.
SPEAKER 03 :
Harry, with Trump obviously nominating RFK, this is going to change lightning fast. This is going to do a 180 with the public, oh, come about January 20th. Are you a little surprised that there are still people costing you jobs over this? I mean, they see what's coming. They know everything they're pushing is about to go to rubble.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, no, I'm not surprised because you have such a division. I mean, you have the cult of the—you literally have the cult of the abort baby mindset, transgender mindset, take your poisonous Fauci shot mindset, and then you have people that are saying, going, hey, how about you go ahead and give real bodily autonomy, not kill people, but allow us to not take poison. So, no, there's such a great divide. that breaking through to the other side is going to take massive amounts of deprogramming. I mean, deprogram a cult overnight? I don't think that's going to happen just because RFK... That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, they're in denial. Andy and I, after we're done with you here, we're going to talk about how the left is losing culture. And by the way, part of what you're talking about in this, in my opinion, is part of the reason why they are, because there are still a lot, we saw it in the election, a lot of sane individuals out there that know a lot of this stuff being pushed right now is absolute rubbish.
SPEAKER 15 :
Agreed. It's literally Munchausen syndrome meets Stockholm syndrome. You have basically brainwashed people that have been abused by the system completely and try to get through to just an abused spouse. Like I've ran calls as a paramedic on an abused spouse and try to get them to report their husbands. Try to get people to report their daddy government that's been beating them for all their lives.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, Harry, I can only disagree with you on one point. I think the medical community, a lot of them are silent on this, not just because they're afraid, but because they're activists. They are part of the cult that you're talking about. Yeah, they are part of the cult that you're talking about. They have been pushing this drug and pushing and pushing and pushing, and now they can't go back.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, no, they can. I mean, they poison themselves. I mean, imagine you're sitting in the middle of Jonestown, right, as they drink. They already drank the Kool-Aid, and you're trying to tell them, hey, guess what? That Kool-Aid was poison. That's where we live.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, yeah. And the other thing, too, don't forget, both of you, and Harry, you know this as well, Andy, you do also, that when you're caught up in all of this, It's really hard now, four years later, especially in the medical community, to admit I was wrong. I never should have done the things that I did with patients and so on. It's really hard to go back and admit that. Am I correct, Harry?
SPEAKER 15 :
That's completely correct because once they admit they were wrong, once these shots get pulled out off the market and they admit they are wrong, You're going to have lawsuits central. So they not only have the fact that their human ego is going, don't admit you're wrong, back in their subconscious. They have the conscious going, oh, God, as soon as I admit I'm wrong, all these people in my community that have died are going to start suing me. So they have a multifaceted reason for shutting the hell up.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, Harry, for those who don't listen to, John always talks about this on Thursday, but this is Tuesday. For those who don't hear that, they may be hearing you say, this is poison, this is poison. Can you maybe talk about just a few of the, shall we say, results that you have seen of people taking these shots and the boosters?
SPEAKER 15 :
I've seen anything from young strokes, young heart attacks. I ran a under 14-year-old playing kickball, just completely had a stroke playing kickball. I ran to the school. stroked out playing kickball, had their second Pfizer shot within weeks. I've seen so many bad things at this point, just singling out one. it's a sea of that.
SPEAKER 16 :
And you've seen a dramatic increase in this because of the shutdown. Yeah, that was my next question, Harry, because I know the answer, because as Andy said, I've been talking to Dr. Kelly on Thursdays, literally now for four-plus years, the first hour every Thursday. For those of you listening that maybe want to tune in on that, you can even go back and listen to past episodes all the way back through COVID. But, Harry, because of talking to her, I kind of know this answer, but tell the listeners— How many of those types of events did you see in your field prior to this?
SPEAKER 15 :
None. I've never seen a young stroke under 14 years. That wasn't a thing. You never saw young and healthy. You would see young children that were born with deformities or born just very rare. And that still was very rare that you would ever run those calls. Maybe once in 10 or 15 years you would ever see something weird like that. After the shots came out, you would see it consistently. Like the things that I've seen have been consistent, so much so that you were running to the same schools three or four times a day on an ambulance. Wow. And even all of us in the medical field were going. Like in the medical community, we would talk and be like, did you run any vaccines today? We call them vaccines.
SPEAKER 16 :
I love it, vaccines. Well, it's funny you say that because my wife and I, as all of this was happening and unfolding, you know, through COVID and so on, and once COVID ended and the shots came out and so on, what we noticed, we happen to live in an area of town to where there's a street not far and we can hear, you know, the different types of traffic that would go by, i.e. fire trucks and ambulances. And I will tell you that our population, yes, it may have grown some, although there's a lot of people now that are even working from home and such that weren't even doing that prior to COVID. So I would be one to say that I'm not even sure traffic Harry is what it was prior to COVID, at least here in the Denver area. So where I'm going with this is. we now sure hear and see a lot more of the ambulances rolling by than we ever did prior to COVID. And I don't think that's a coincidence.
SPEAKER 15 :
Not at all. During COVID, actually, we slowed down immensely. I could take a nap on the job easy during COVID. During COVID, most people were not going out. And our children's hospital in Oklahoma City, which is one of the bigger children's hospitals, it was completely empty most of the time. Whenever they started giving the shots and opening back up, it flooded. It was insane, the difference. So we were hearing on the TV, that's one of the first times I noticed how big the lie was, is when the TV was going, everyone's flooded and overran. And I was taking a nap. And then whenever they started giving the shots that were supposedly safe, we were getting destroyed.
SPEAKER 16 :
There you go. All right, the book, Safe and Effective, For Profit, The Paramedic's Story Exposing American Genocide. Harry, where can folks get the book?
SPEAKER 15 :
You can get the book at fishersbook.com or you can buy it on Amazon. I appreciate you getting it at fishersbook.com. Don't give Amazon all your money. But that being said, if you do give Amazon your money, I appreciate you buying the book either way and giving the info out there. And please rate the book out there on Amazon. That way we can get some info.
SPEAKER 16 :
Harry, thank you. We appreciate it. Appreciate what you're doing and even getting the word out there. And, again, we're very fortunate to have been aligned with somebody like Dr. Kelly even as a program and be able to have some of the insight and even then talking to folks like yourself. We've got to continue to get the word out because there's still a lot of people out there listening that have never heard some of the things we're talking about.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree. She's good people, and she's actually in the book. She's a friend of mine, and she's in the book.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush. And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, John. Yes. The reason I bring up the culture is, and I'm looking for the article. Sorry, I've been kind of busy. Okay. It's all right. But there was a Democrat... who's in pretty high ranking. And he said, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He was working on the Kamala campaign and he worked on their, their, um, online stuff. Okay. And he said, this is when I knew that we had lost the culture. And in his case, it was because they couldn't get her booked on sports channels. And the Democrats have owned sports channels. In fact, ESPN has been to the left of CNN, MSNBC. It's Disney. Yeah, they're Disney. But even before Disney bought them.
SPEAKER 16 :
They were going that way that just got worse as Disney bought them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. ESPN had been full-fledged, all-out flat Marxist. Absolutely. And yet he realized, my gosh, we can't get her booked on these sports shows and hear Trump, you know, is being booked. And so they were wondering, he said at this point, he said, I realized that we had a real problem. I wanted to ask you, I think it's it started well before this election.
SPEAKER 16 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I would go back a few years. But when did you think when do you think Democrats started losing the culture? Because the Democrats have owned the culture for decades.
SPEAKER 16 :
When they started lying to people over COVID, a lot of what we just talked about with the last paramedic and the book that he wrote and some of the things we talked to Dr. Kelly about, that's not all of it, but that is a large portion of it. When people, Andy, and we've talked about this many times, people started realizing that, wait a minute, there's not been one death of a kid, and yet we've shut schools down, and I'm having to now basically homeschool my kid because the school and my tax dollars won't, and, and, and. We just keep piling on the things they started to notice.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and also parents started to notice that the teachers were really fighting against coming back to work. It was easy. Right. They want to stay at home. So all these teachers who are paid by your tax dollars and who don't have to compete for their jobs and get tenure, and they're stuck in there forever. Well, okay, that's college. But you know what I mean. I know what you mean. It's the same thing. Try firing a high school teacher. Good luck with that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Unless they've done some sort of criminal act, good luck.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, good luck. And they were seeing them not want to come back to work.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. So you take that, you take, of course, add inflation into it, which, again, even though she and the campaign wanted to blame all of that on Trump, people aren't that dumb, Andy. They can look back pre-COVID and say, well, wait a minute, I wasn't paying that much for gas and milk and eggs and bread and the staples that I have to buy, you know, laundry soap and so on. I didn't have to pay these exorbitant prices back then, but... But I am now. And wait a minute. You guys were in charge really through the second half of COVID. And we've now got this sort of inflation. And no matter what Kamala says on the campaign trail, you guys caused this. And yet you have nothing to fix this with. And then you pile that on top, Andy, of all the other things we just got done mentioning. And oh, wait a minute. Then let's add in. oh, it's okay for boys to play in women's sports, and it's okay to teach a kid that's 10 or 11 years old that they can change their gender, and, and, and. I mean, you add all these things on, and then you wonder why you lost the culture. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And look, I think there were a number of major, not minor, major steps. I think the way the left treated COVID is one of the major steps. Let me put one before it and one after it. Okay. True. Can't argue that. True. Then and you had a number of NFL owners who quite honestly leaned left. Now, a lot of them lean right. But the ones who leaned right were all silent. They never spoke on on politics. And the ones on the left could be outspoken.
SPEAKER 16 :
And really quick before any of you start saying, well, that means they just flip flop. No, keep in mind. No, no, no, no. Careers in the NFL, especially. Are very short. So the same people in most cases, Andy, there's more exceptions to ballplayers that play, you know, 8, 10, 12 years. That's rare. Most of those guys are two and a half, three and a half, four years, maybe max. So the reality is, no, guys, these aren't the same people that were kneeling that all of a sudden had some revelation and they're not kneeling now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Let me tell you what happened, John, because just this year we saw NFL players wearing MAGA hats, doing the Trump dance. Everything has changed. OK, it started with the kneelers. And here's what happened. Because for the first time ever. The right decided we will boycott. We will. And you and I, we're not for hard boycotts, but we are in favor of soft boycotts. In other words, spend your money where you want to. Yeah. Yeah. Spend your money where you want to look for other options. And when people churned off the TV and said, that's it. When you guys started because kneeling was promoting two things, anti-Americanism and racism. It was racist, pure racist. And until then, all of the conservative players had always been silent on their politics. They had. They were terrified. That's why Tim Tebow was so unusual. Not that he was political, but he was very Christian at the time. You could be Christian, so was Reggie White, but not political. Not if you were on the right, only on the left. Because what happened then, for the very first time, the players and the coaches and the owners were stunned at the backlash and the amount of lost revenues that they incurred. They'd never had this happen to them before.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, the NFL's always been on this upward trajectory, and in that particular case, they started to tank. They didn't tank fully, but they tanked enough to open their eyes to say, owners especially, saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, their numbers went down.
SPEAKER 16 :
We can't do this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Their numbers went down dramatically. And when players would kneel at the game, there would be boos coming from the crowd. They'd never experienced anything like this because the crowd is looking at them and saying, look, this is racist and it's anti-American. Now, that changed. And what happened also is that the NFL saw when they got rid of the kneeling what happened. The numbers came back. Everybody came back. Everybody's happy. Hey, man, just love America. We love you. You love us. Relax. Relax.
SPEAKER 16 :
And sports is supposed to be a place where this doesn't happen anyways.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Right. Okay. Then the next thing, and this is after COVID, Bud Light. Yeah. Agreed. When they... They did not. You see, Disney had been going through some things. Obviously, you got the big year of Lightyear and Strange World when Disney lost unbelievable sums of money. Now, and Disney, Charlie just sent me a thing.
SPEAKER 16 :
There's an article today that he sent us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they're cutting back on their trends. Right. You know, ideology.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hollywood is learning, like the NFL, that, oh, maybe we shouldn't go down this path.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And why? Because as you and I have constantly said, hey, being trans means you literally believe you are in the wrong body. You're crazy. I'm sorry. There is no defending trans.
SPEAKER 16 :
You need some mental help.
SPEAKER 03 :
You need help. You literally think you're in the wrong body. That's crazy. And when Bud Light lost unbelievable amounts of money, Billions. Yeah. And then Target lost big money. Same thing. That sent shockwaves throughout the industries because keep in mind, corporate America had swung so far to the left. They felt they were untouchable. They felt that they could shove whatever they wanted on the American people and wouldn't matter. Here's what happened. What mattered is America stood up and closed their wallets. They closed their wallets with the NFL. They closed their wallets with those things. And meshed in the middle of that, they got angry because COVID, draconian COVID policies. It robbed them. Governors took over their lives.
SPEAKER 16 :
It robbed them. It robbed some of them of their small business. Yes. Some of them, it robbed them of their job. How many businesses? It robbed them of their kids' educations.
SPEAKER 03 :
How many businesses here in Colorado closed down forever because of Jared Polis?
SPEAKER 16 :
Far too many. Yeah. Once enough, Andy. Far too many, though. Right. And they got tired of being belittled and talked down to and so on. And then pretty soon, you know, this is the other thing that happened is they were told all the way through COVID, just follow the science, follow the science, until the science was proven wrong. And then they were like, screw your science.
SPEAKER 03 :
You guys are wrong. When COVID rifled through the vaccinated community. That's when things really changed. That's when a lot of people started saying, wait a minute. All my friends who got vaccinated are getting COVID. Okay. In fact, I got news for you. My friends who are unvaxxed seem a lot healthier than my vaxxed friends.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct. Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
America, look, I'm telling you what, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Hell hath no fury like a voter scorned. Voters were looking around saying, my government's lying to me.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and on top of that, Andy, let's not forget, as they headed down the stretch into the election. Yeah. All of what you just said, spot on. I did talk about the economy for a moment, but then you pile on the economy, especially now. Right. And you had her running around being asked, what are you going to do to fix the economy that, by the way, you've been a part of for the past three and a half years? And all her answers were, well, I was born in a middle class home. I mean, people saw right through that and said, well, what in the world are you talking about, lady? That answer isn't helping me put groceries on my table. Right. I want the old guy. But these are terrible candidates.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. Let me add one last thing. Because the Democrats opened the border wide open for the first time, for the first time, people saw themselves actually being invaded. It was no longer a trickle under the carpet and so forth. It was right out loud in your face. They were taking over buildings. They were taking over everything.
SPEAKER 16 :
Like we saw the arrest today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Job growth in America for the last year, when you take out the jobs going to immigrants, we lost jobs for the last year.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
People were just saying, what is going on? I think that changed the culture, too.
SPEAKER 16 :
Andy, I think every single one of these things that we have mentioned piled on top of one another. Is why, and if you're somebody on the left and you can't see this, which, by the way, I hope you don't. I hope you're so egotistical that you don't see it. Stay stupid. I don't want you to see this, but if you can't see this, you're blind as a bat.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Because it's right in front of you as to what's going on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. You know what really happened at the base of all the things we just said? Anti-Americanism.
SPEAKER 16 :
Freedom. Freedom is gone.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, because the kneelers were anti-American. The COVID Nazis were anti-American. The Bud Light, that was anti-American, shoving down our throats.
SPEAKER 16 :
Immigration, anti-American.
SPEAKER 03 :
Immigration flinging open the border so we'd get fully invaded. Anti-American. And now what did they do on top of it? They're selling off parts of the wall for nothing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Let's not forget one other thing, and Kurt Rogers is going to join me Thursday, by the way, at 5 o'clock, but the fact that a lot of folks went from being able to afford a home to not being able to afford a home. Anti-American again, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, when they looked at the Biden administration, which was taking credit for lowering inflation, and all kinds of Americans are looking at them and saying, the only thing that's lowering inflation is you're jacking our rates through the roof.
SPEAKER 16 :
One other thing I got to add on top of all that that we haven't mentioned yet. Student loan forgiveness. Anti-American. And all those folks that either paid their loans or were paying their loans and wouldn't have had any kind of forgiveness were looking at that saying, what in the world are you guys doing?
SPEAKER 03 :
Or the plumbers and electricians who never needed a loan and said, my taxes are paying for this rich kid to get there. Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's another pylon of being anti-American. Yep. So all of that combined. The message, really, let's say it this way, Andy. Why did the left lose the culture? Because they became so anti-American. They've always been anti-American, but they became so in-your-face anti-American that a portion, the majority of voters said, yeah, no, not this time.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Why did the left lose the culture?
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All right, as we're back, I was reminded also text message-wise before we switch gears, Andy, that during COVID, don't forget the other thing that government allowed to be open They handpicked liquor stores, convenience stores, pot shops, big box stores, and so on. So they really handpicked the winners and losers.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, favoritism also drives away the culture.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. They hate it. Okay. So thanks for the reminder, by the way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure. I got a new question for you here. Trump, it's different this time. It's totally different. Remember, last time in 2016, he won. It was incredible. However, immediately, it was all opposition. Everybody was weaponized against him. I'm not just talking about the Democrats on Capitol Hill. I'm talking about all of big tech, all of academia, all of Hollywood, all of everywhere. Right? Yes. This time is different. This time, everybody's coming to him wanting to kiss the ring. And my question is this. What is the biggest difference, or what are some of the reasons that we see this incredible difference this time for Trump? The wind is at his back this time. The wind was in his face last time.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm going to attribute it to one thing and one thing only, and the day it happened, Andy literally texted me that same day and said, this is it. We're done. We've won. No looking back. This is a shoe-in for Trump. And we've talked about this, and please, all of you that are Christians, hear me out. Because Andy and I even did some segments on, did God spare Trump's life in the assassination attempt in Pennsylvania? I would flip that. and say, did God allow that to happen that changed Trump's entire demeanor from that point forward and made him who he is now, which, by the way, is not the same Trump we saw four years ago because it's not. He is not.
SPEAKER 03 :
He is not. And Charlie and I, we were just talking about it at the break. He just had an impromptu press conference yesterday. John. Obviously, he was in great command of the details, but there were two big changes in him. Number one, he was softer, respectful, quiet, calm, commanding. He was not this activist raging at the group, at the room, right? And the second thing is, he knew when not to give an answer. Okay, you know, the guy asked him, are you going to, what, bomb... I forget what it was.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I read today where somebody thought that just shows he's got dementia. No, that just means he's very careful in his responses.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, because basically, are you going to bomb Iran? What does he say? how can I answer that question? If I say yes, if I say no, either one is a bad answer. The answer being, obviously, I'm not going to tell them what I'm going to do.
SPEAKER 16 :
There is no answer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why would I tell them what I'm going to do? But you see, in the past, he wasn't controlled like that. He wasn't under control. And I believe one big difference is J.D. Vance. He's learning from J.D. J.D. is incredibly... J.D. is incredibly... contained in what he says it's brilliant he knows when to go after people but trump just being around a guy who works can't argue that wording can't argue although it's changed you still got to go back to the shooting oh the assassination attempt because his demeanor
SPEAKER 16 :
Literally from that, we've talked about it. We talked about it on air. His demeanor from that point forward changed dramatically. When you have a near-death experience, and I think a lot of people can say that. Anybody that's had one of those, I think, can say this. It changes you. And in Trump's case, because of a lot of the people that he's surrounded with, to your point, the J.D. Vance, great Christian guy, etc., You start looking at those folks and will they rub off on a Trump, especially after one of those experiences? Yeah, Andy, I think they do. Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think another thing that's put the wind at Trump's back and there's a couple more here, but one is J.D. Vance. Mike Pence was an awful choice. OK, he was an absolutely Mike Pence was a decent speaker, but not anything like J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance. goes out to all ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN. He goes to all of them and cuts them to ribbons. And Americans had never seen this before. They had never seen one of Trump's people going into all these interviews and cutting them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Calm, cool, collected, methodical, and so on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Making MAGA brilliant. That's what J.D. Vance made MAGA brilliant. And they had not seen that before. MAGA was always a very emotional thing. It was a very true thing. I believe in MAGA.
SPEAKER 16 :
It was never brilliant until Vance. We talked about this prior to even Trump being the nominee. Our biggest fear with Trump moving forward was everything would be based on emotions completely. There wouldn't be a lot of strategy involved. It would be very hard to win that way. Fortunately, some things changed. through the campaign right and got better as time went on and i think a lot of what you're talking about is why yeah now i'm gonna the next one i'm only gonna do is say a name and i'm gonna let you take it from there elon musk oh huge huge asset a because and i said this a while back yeah And I think even some folks out there listening sort of poo-pooed me on this because I think they thought, well, yeah, I don't know about that. Elon Musk, there is not only a lot of tech folks that follow him, but a lot of young, brilliant men especially follow him. A, because of where he's at, what he's done, the fact he's the richest guy on the planet. He's eccentric by all means. On the same token, he doesn't let what other people say bother him. At all. Right. He's his own guy, and I think a lot of young men, especially Andy, because they haven't had that model to them much, they appreciate that. And they're followers of him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Everything you just said, true, but I've got to add something. In 2016, the Democrats completely owned the public square. They did. They owned all the media. They owned all of big tech. They owned all of the dispersal of news and ideas. Yeah, you can talk about Fox News, but they outnumbered that a zillion to one, especially with big tech. Correct. x twitter oh yeah okay that's what i was saying elon musk his fact of being there with these young men especially huge because of elon musk they no longer own the uh public square they can't dominate they can't go after trump and know that all the voices that are going to come back against us are going to be just drowned out by us they can't drown them out anymore and elon musk is the biggest reason
SPEAKER 16 :
I can't argue that. No, you're right. Let me throw another. And really quick, before we move on. Go. Because there's some folks that text us continually, which I always enjoy. But I want to remind some of you, by the way, that have texted me probably multiple times since. And I could go back and even find some of these if I wanted to. But some of you were very critical. Early on of Musk, oh, the guy's a charlatan. Oh, the guy's a Trojan horse. Oh, we can't trust him. You guys said the same thing about Vivek, by the way. All we heard was, oh, you can't trust these guys. There's no way they're going to be really a part of our party and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And a lot of you listening right now need to check yourself because you said those same things to me in text messages.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And by the way, these are minor ones, but you've got to throw in Vivek and Tulsi. Absolutely. Not just because they are people that nobody trusted on our side because our side doesn't trust anybody and we believe in every conspiracy theory. I don't know why. But I've got news for you folks. Not only are Vivek and Tulsi on your side, they're smart. They're smart. They come off brilliant. They blow people away in debates. And they're not like J.D. Vance, who's an absolute machine, but they're close. Actually, Vivek is like that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Vivek is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, not Tulsi as much, but she's brilliant, too.
SPEAKER 16 :
He's a machine.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tulsi might be our VP next time around. Okay, but I'm going to give you another name and let you take it. Joe Rogan. Oh, huge for us. Huge.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wow. He and Dana White on the wrestling.
SPEAKER 03 :
What does this do for the culture, him and Dana White?
SPEAKER 16 :
Huge, because these guys are where young men, not all young men, but there's some old guys watching him as well, but men in general. But there's a lot of women, too, so I don't want to cut any of you lady wrestling fans and Joe Rogan fans and so on, because there's a lot of equal sexes, I should say, Andy, that are listening. But especially when it comes to young men, Those two individuals, Dana White, Joe Rogan, both speak volumes to a ton of young men. So when they start talking about, you know, being a supporter of Donald Trump and interviewing Donald Trump and going through that whole end of things, we talked in the last, you know, the last segment about how did the left lose the culture? Because they don't know either one of these guys and they're probably both repulsed by him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Everything you just said. Once again, 100 percent agree. What about women? The fact that they didn't win women nearly as big as they expected. And let me give you two quick names, Tulsi and RFK. That hurt them because that was two Democrats who came over to our side, and Tulsi is an incredibly impressive woman.
SPEAKER 16 :
And RFK Jr., when he starts talking about all of the things— Well, a lot of women because of the kids and the vaccines and so on. He speaks very near and dear to them because these are individuals that are really looking at these kids saying, why am I giving my kids 72 vaccines?
SPEAKER 03 :
John, when I'm online, all of the biggest supporters of RFK on our side, they were all women. They were all women. So when we talk about—and so here's the thing. I'm going to bring it all together now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
You and I said in 2016, actually, that Donald Trump had to be Team Trump. He had to go forward with his team. He had to put together this incredibly impressive group of people around him that would, let's face it, soften him. Yep. And reach out into far more. He couldn't just go forward with the Trumpies because the Trumpies were only 30% of the population.
SPEAKER 16 :
Andy, if we said it once, we said it a thousand times. Trump has to change the way he messages to the entire United States or he will not win. And he did.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he did. And he did because I'm telling you what, this time it is not Trump. It is Team Trump.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back. Myself, Andy, and Charlie. Andy's going to head out here at 5 o'clock, by the way, but I'll still be around here for the last hour. Andy, a couple things. Charlie just said one thing a second ago that really is a big deal and why people are in favor of Trump is the fact that he's just making common sense remarks and things to do that everybody can relate to, even some Democrats. But back to how did the left lose the culture? Right. One other thing I want to throw in that we forgot, which helped Trump – And hurt them. And that's all the stupid lawsuits they brought against Trump. Because, by the way, a lot of people were looking at that saying, man alive, these things are just as ticky tack as it gets. I get it. The hardcore lefties, they loved all of that. But others didn't.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you think it was just shocking for the country to see how easily the legal system could be weaponized?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. And they didn't like it. They had never seen it like this. Nope. And they don't like that because they realize, oh, wait a minute. Again, going back to the man thing. By the way, I know a lot of you listening, I've focused a lot on the male vote and the fact that I firmly believe, some females as well, but literally that whole male vote, that voting block is what really put Trump over the edge this last election.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yes. Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Keep in mind that there's a lot of men out there, like it or not. that have had something happen to them legally speaking. Something's happened on the job. Something's happened to them with regards to divorce and child support or custody battles and so on. And in most cases, by the way, these guys are on the losing end of the stick. In most cases. Because it's stacked against them. When they walk into the courtroom, they know right off the bat that as a dad, this whole thing is rigged, not in my favor. And then they watched what Trump went through.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And the Democrats were able to get away with that for the longest time. And here's why. They would just say, yeah, but it's Trump. It's okay because it's Trump. Yeah, but we're doing this against Trump. Well, Trump is really bad. Well, he's a threat to democracy. Look at J6. Look at J6. Look at J6. You know, and... Here's the thing. After a while, that sells for a year or two. You know, after a while, you know what Americans start saying? Yeah, we know it's Trump. But you keep saying, yeah, it's Trump. And what we're seeing is this. We've never seen the law used like this before. And it proves to us that you can use it that way. And that scares us.
SPEAKER 16 :
And where I'm going with that, Andy, is there's a lot of men out there that I think voted for Trump that the law had been used against them in a way that it shouldn't be because it happens more often than not. Because typically, again, I'm not saying it happens in every single case, but there's a lot of situations where these guys go to court to have custody with their kids or have joint custody or have equal time or whatever the case may be, and the odds are already stacked against them.
SPEAKER 03 :
How many men have lost a job just because of an accusation of... sexual harassment as well and you know and once again because you know the me first or me too movement okay the whole idea that we can simply accuse away your rights we don't have to provide any evidence we can just accuse it away and men look back and say hey man if somebody's sexually harassing a female that's terrible but you got to provide evidence otherwise you can simply accuse it away That got thrown away.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, and believe me.
SPEAKER 03 :
And look what just came out with the Duke Lacrosse.
SPEAKER 16 :
I was going to mention the same thing, Andy. Right. Take the words out of my mouth.
SPEAKER 03 :
The lady who lied against them just came out and admitted it. What is it, a decade later?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I lied.
SPEAKER 03 :
People are like, hey, wait a minute. Right. You could literally, and I think this hit men a lot worse than women because men had had their rights accused away much more than women.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, and had been in the courtroom. Some of the similar things I just mentioned a moment ago. And the reality is all of that went in favor of Trump and against her, really against the party, if you really want to get down to it when it's all said and done. So, guys, again, we've got another full hour coming your way. I've got another interview we're going to do here in a moment. Jeremy Portnoy is going to join us. He is from Open the Books. We're going to talk about his new column, Waste of the Day. We're going to talk about Doge and how that may affect things as well. So don't go anywhere yet. We'll be right back. Hour three is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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The Importance of Scripture - Part 2
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 613 aired on May 21, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I am your host Rick Hughes and for the next
few minutes I'd like to invite you to stay with me, a short time of motivation, some inspiration, a
whole lot of education, with no manipulation. That's right, no hidden agendas, not trying to sell
you anything, this is not an infomercial. It is simply a show about the Bible, that's all. Some
information that I'd like to give you I hope will help you verify and identify God's plan for your
life. If you're able to do this, you can orient and adjust to the plan as you please, that's up to you.
God didn't make you a little robot, an automaton. He gave you freedom, free will. He gave you a
volition. He gave you the right to choose and the Bible says in Joshua 24:15,
“Choose you this
day who you will serve, but as for me and my house
we will serve the Lord,” G
ood morning,
welcome to The FLOT Line. We started a study last Sunday when I was with you on the
importance of Scripture, the importance of knowing the Scripture, and being able to discern the
Scripture, being able to tell when someone teaches the Scripture that he gives the sense of the
verse and the meaning of the verse. That is, what the verse really means and what's the sense,
what’s it trying to say to you, not taking it out of context. You know, there are so many people
that teach the Bible, there are so many Bibles being sold, it’s amazing, the number one selling
book in the world. They’ve got a hunting Bible, a marriage Bible, a widow’s Bible, a whatever
Bible. Everybody wants to sell you a Bible but very few people want to teach the Bible
accurately from the original languages. Many pastors do have Greek and Hebrew training but
they don't use it, they put it aside when they get out of seminary and that's a mistake. It's critical
that you take a look at these verses in the original languages so you can see what the original
intent of the verse was. I always love the way my pastor did it. He did what we called the ICE
technique, I.C.E., isogogical, categorical and exegetical. This simply mean the isogogics of the
word. What did the word mean then? What does it mean now? Then he would do the category. If
you're studying a verse like John 3:16, you may have the category of God, the category of love,
the category of the world, so he would develop categorical studies. Then exegesis means that he
would go line by line, word by word, verse by verse, because every jot and every tittle in the
Bible is important.
Everything in the Bible is inspired by God for a reason.
If I were teaching
you the book of John, we would go through the book of John beginning with chapter 1 verse 1 all
the way through the end of the book through the last verse in the book. We would go line by
line, word by word, verse by verse. That's how you learn the Bible. There's nobody that can teach
the book of Romans in a week. There’s nobody that can teach the book of John in a week. We
have church services where we have the January Bible study or the February Bible study and
somebody comes in and wants to teach you the book in a week. You can't understand it that way
and sometimes they want to sell you their study guide to go with it. Then we get into marketing
and I stand firm on this.
God does not tolerate marketing His Word.
We are not allowed to
market the Word of God.
We’re not allowed to sell the Word of God.
We got it free, we give it
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away free and yet in today's modern Christianity, it's all about marketing. Whether it's accurate or
not, whether it's true or not, that's another issue but this issue is about selling the Word of God. If
God's in it, He will pay for it. You don't have to hustle the money up. I learned this a long time
ago. My pastor taught me this and I've always lived by this principle. Now, we're going to
continue our study today about how to get close to God and we’re doing this under the
importance of understanding the Scripture, the sense and the meaning of the Scripture. In
Jeremiah 9:23,
“And you shall seek Me and find Me when
[notice, when]
you search for Me
with all your heart.”
Remember that you have a mind, M.I.N.D., and you have a heart. Both of
these are inside your head up there. Your mind in the Greek New Testament is the word
nous
,
N.O.U.S. and the word for your heart is
kardia.
The mind is where you assimilate information
and the heart is where you store the information and apply the information. Information that
comes into your mind is simply comprehended.
Information that is believed in your mind and
applied into your heart becomes wisdom.
If you want to search for God, you have to search
with all your heart and that means that you have positive volition, that you're hungry for truth,
that you want to know truth, that you're not playing games, you don't have an angle, you’re not
trying to manipulate God so God can get you out of a jam. You want to know God and His Word.
I don't know if there was really a point in my life where I came to the fact that I had to study the
Word of God, but I know that after I became a Christian, many people tried to manipulate me
and coerce me into doing things that I didn't feel right doing such as raising money or such as
buttonholing people on the street. I wouldn’t beat people over the head with the Bible or
whatever, but I love to witness to people. I love to share Christ with people. But there were
things that I was not comfortable with. As I grew and as I eventually found a well-qualified
pastor that could teach me, there was nothing wrong with me, that I was thinking clearly and the
more he taught, the more I learned, the more I learned, the more I understood that I didn't know.
That's the way it is with you.
If you want to get close to God, you study His Word, you study
His Word consistently under a pastor who has the gift who can teach it to you and you will
discover, like me, the more you know about God, the more you realize you don't know.
We
know He is immanent. We know He is transcendent. We know He is omnipotent, omniscient, and
omnipresent but we don't know a whole lot about what He looks like because we have this image
in our head of what we think He looks like. We know He looks like Jesus Christ. He is God.
Christ is God that's manifested in the flesh, God in the flesh. Jesus was God, is God, and is in
heaven today in the presence of God the Father. We have God the Son, God the Father, and God
the Holy Spirit. It's the Holy Spirit that lives in you and the Holy Spirit that lives in me and we
are told to let the Holy Spirit control our life, to run our life, to run the show. That's why the
Bible says be filled with the Spirit. Don't walk in the flesh. Don’t let the flesh control you, that’s
carnality. So if you're going to get close to God, you’re going to have to learn His Word. You’re
going to have to be under a qualified pastor. You’re going to have to study it and apply it in your
life and the more you learn about God, the more you will come to understand Him. It's not an
emotional thing. It's not you going to a mountaintop. It’s not you going to a retreat somewhere
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and feeling really close to God because there was a big bonfire and you all sang,
Oh how I love
Jesus
, until nobody could sing it anymore and you felt closer to God. That's not how it happens.
Apart from accumulating divine viewpoint, apart from learning the Word of God, you’ll
never know Him and you'll never be able to please Him because you’ll go about it your
way.
You will try to make up the rules as you go along and there's protocol when you deal with
God, which means that a right thing must be done in a right way. You can do a right thing like
going to church and praying and giving money and etc., but you can do it in the wrong way.
When it's done in the wrong way, then it’s simply wood, hay, and stubble and according to 1
Corinthians 3 at the Judgment Seat of Christ it will be burned up, it won't be accepted. It was a
right thing done in the wrong way. Once you learn the mandates of Scripture, then the test is
always going to be, will you obey the mandates of Scripture? If you learn divine viewpoint, if
you learn God's Word, then the Word of God is capable of guiding your thoughts.
The Word of
God is capable of directing your thoughts.
Listen to Colossians 3:15,
“Let the peace of God
rule in your hearts,”
be in the heart, not the mind. To rule is the Greek word
brabeuo
and it
means to be an umpire, to be a judge. The Word of God is designed to judge your thoughts and to
control your habits, not only your bad habits but your good habits, your lifestyle, your destiny.
As you learn God's Word, it rules your thoughts.
Whenever there is a confusion of thought in
the soul and whenever this happens, you have to choose to decide which way you're going to go.
“Am I going to do this?” “Am I going to do that?” “What does the Bible say? Okay I know what
the Bible says. Now what am I willing to do?” If you're not willing to obey what the Bible says,
then why study the Bible? Then some people say, “Well, you know two or three people can get
two or three different meanings out of this.” Yep, they sure can sometimes, when they don't go to
the original languages, that's for sure.
Learning the truth of the Scripture, the truth of the
logos,
the Word of God, not the person
logos,
Jesus, but the Word of God, Bible doctrine on
a consistent basis, establishes protectors in your soul.
God actually has soul protectors one of
my friends said. I like that, soul protectors, which give us wisdom in time of satanic attack and it
keeps the human viewpoint from invading your soul. This is why Paul said in Colossians 1:9,
“We don't cease to pray for you and we desire that you might be filled with the knowledge of His
will in all wisdom, in all spiritual understanding,”
in other words, to have responsible spiritual
intelligence. If you fail to learn God's system, if you fail to learn how the protocol plan of God
works, if you fail to execute His plan you wind up being a Christian casualty on the battlefield,
sucked into the cosmic vortex, this invisible zeitgeist in history, the invisible lure like a tornado
whirling around and sucking you into it, human viewpoint thinking, the lure of the devil, the
times of the world. The Bible says in Hosea 8:7,
“If you sow to the wind, then you’re going to
reap the whirlwind,”
this vortex.
It’s very easy for a Christian to get into the cosmic vortex.
You may know some family member that's in the cosmic vortex. They’re believers, they've
accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior, there's not a doubt about this but they let sin get into their
life. They did not confess their sin to God. They grew cold or disinterested in God's plan. They
got interested in some other human endeavor and the cosmic vortex whirled them off down the
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road and now you don't see them anymore. They will be dumped out somewhere in life just like
a tornado dumps out all the debris that it sucks up. Eventually they'll be dumped out somewhere
and this dumping place is called the sin unto death. There are three types of discipline: warning
discipline, intense discipline, and dying discipline. When you don't respond to the warning
discipline, even though God loves you, He warns you, Hebrews 12:6 tells us this. He scourges us
sometimes, that's the intense discipline, and then sometimes He just has to take us home because
we are unfit, we’re too hard-headed, we’re too arrogant. That's where it all comes from, it comes
from arrogance. The misunderstanding of who you are and what you are, this unrealistic self-
image we get when we justify the things that we do, thinking that it's okay even though the Word
of God says it's not okay, we justify it and then we become self-absorbed with it.
If you're going
to learn God's Word, it'll keep you out of this cosmic vortex. Colossians 3:25,
“For he who
does wrong receives the consequences and God is not a respecter of persons.”
I don't care
who you are, me, you, anybody else, any famous Christian celebrity, get out of the will of
God, sin, walk away from what the Scripture says and you're in for it, you’re in for
discipline.
The cosmic system is out there. It's the devil's viewpoint. It’s the devil's plan. It’s
human viewpoint where all the human viewpoint is spawned in the world, in the cosmic system.
That's what the cosmic vortex is, it’s you operating in the cosmic system. Listen to 1 John 2,
“Stop loving the kosmos or anything related to the kosmos. If anyone keeps on loving the
kosmos, then the love of the Father is not in him because all that's in the kosmos, the lust of the
flesh, the lust of the eyes, the arrogant pattern of life, is not from the Father.”
The cosmic system
has its own communion cup, did you know this? Maybe you’ve taken communion at church and
you should in remembrance of what Jesus Christ our Lord did for you. In 1 Corinthians 10:21,
“You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons.”
You cannot partake of the table
of the Lord and the table of demons. The false doctrine, the false system, the lure of the world,
it's all out there and if you going to be in fellowship with God and I would warn you about this,
if you take communion in your church, make sure there's no unconfessed sin in your life because
when you take communion with known sin in your life, you're asking for divine discipline. You
are insulting the character of God when you do this. You must be sure when you take
communion that you go to the Father before the communion elements are served and simply bow
your head and say, “Father, if there is any sin in my life, show me now. I want to confess it, I
want to purge it out,” and then God will be faithful to reveal it to you. You can't take communion
with known sin without getting discipline for it. God's protocol plan and Satan's cosmic system
are mutually exclusive. They don't work together, they're totally different. If you are a believer in
Jesus Christ, you might choose to live your life outside of God's protocol plan and you might flirt
around with the cosmic system in your frantic search for happiness, in your human viewpoint
thinking. It's so easy to do this. It's so easy as a Christian to step out of the plan of God, to quit
following the rules and then make your own rules up. It's easy in the field of love and romance
because you meet someone and you think you love this person. This happens all the time, it
happens to young girls and young men. You're a believer and they're not and you say, “Well, I
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love him and they are fantastic and we have a great time together, but I'm a Christian. He's not a
Christian.” What does the Bible say? Don't do it. The Bible says absolutely never marry an
unbeliever, but you in your arrogance say, “Oh, I'll change him,” or “I'll change her.” You go
ahead and you marry the unbeliever because you think you love this person and the end result is
you step out of the protocol plan of God and you create more misery than you can ever solve in
your life. Marriage doesn't solve problems, it compounds problems. When you put two sin
natures together, it doesn't make anything go away. It makes it twice as bad. If you continue to
live your life, just in this one episode for example, marriage, you can go to finances, you can go
to a lot of different areas. If you choose to live your life outside of the protocol plan of God, you
are flirting in the cosmic system and you are searching for happiness and you will never find it.
You know, some of the richest men in the world have said these things. I remember Elvis Presley
said, “I'm lonely, so lonely. I'm rich and I'm famous but I'm lonely.” Rockefeller said, “I've made
millions but they brought me no happiness.” The only true source of happiness according to the
Lord Jesus Christ is found in Luke 11:27-28 where He told an interruptive woman who shouted
out at one of His messages, He told her,
“Happiness belongs to those who hear My Father's
Word and who keep it.”
This means happiness is related to a clear conscience. This means
happiness is related to no guilt. This means happiness is related to living inside the protocol plan
of God,
“Hear My Father's Word and keep it.”
How do we grow? We hear, without hearing
there's no faith, so you have to hear.
What am I listening to? Am I going out in the woods and
listen to a bird chirp? No, I'm sitting in a church listening to a qualified pastor teach the Bible.
He has a spiritual gift, the gift of
poimen kai didaskalos
in the Greek New Testament, pastor and
teacher. It's his job to teach. Now, maybe you can sit in that church or maybe there's not a church
near you. You can do what I do, you can listen to DVDs. My church is not where I live so I get
the DVDs of my pastor and I study the DVDs. Each day I put on a DVD and I watch it, take
notes, open my Bible, sit down and study and learn and then on several occasions a year I will be
in that church. This is the way that I grow and it's a way you can grow as well if there's not a
church in your area. You let me know and I’ll connect you. I'll give you the name where you can
get the same information I'm getting and then you can grow sitting right there in your home until
God reveals what you're suppose to do. This cosmic system is Satan's strategy as the ruler of this
world. It's the way he can control you and manipulate you. It’s the way he can bend the rules and
you seem to think it's okay because Satan will exploit believers through their own arrogance. He
has his propaganda machine, his indoctrination, and it always promotes antagonism towards
God. What Satan appeals to is always our own arrogance. The Bible says in James 4:6,
“God
makes war with the arrogant, but He gives grace to the humble.”
That's our key, we have to
humble ourselves which means respect for authority.
Humility is teachability.
Nobody can learn
that doesn't have any humility because they think they know it already. They think they don't
need to hear it and you need to understand that Satan will target you if you’re arrogant. He will
manipulate you if you’re arrogant. He will use you to promote his scheme if you are arrogant.
You will be sucked into the cosmic vortex. You will be taken down the My Way Highway as we
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say it and you will be discredited and I tell you, it's a terrible life. Anybody who falls into this
satanic trap, you know Satan will target Scripture and he will tell you, “That's not true. You don't
really have to believe this.”
Satan will try to discredit Scripture,
just disapprove the Scripture,
and then you get sucked into his plan. There are three ways for you to get sucked into the cosmic
vortex, listen carefully. Number one is demon possession. Now, no believer can be demon
possessed. The Bible clearly says in 1 John 4:4,
“Greater is He that is in you than he that is in
the world.”
Demon possession is for unbelievers. A demon is a fallen angel, not some weird
dude, he’s a fallen angel and demon possession is real, was real in the Bible, is real today. Only
unbelievers can be indwelt by a demon and there's all sorts of neurotic and psychotic behavior
manifested as a result of this. One of the quickest ways for an unbeliever to get into demon
possession is by rejecting legitimate authority such as law and order, police, whatever. These are
found in the laws of divine establishment. Many of these mass murderers, people that kill people
indiscriminately are in fact demon possessed. The Bible tells us in John 8:44,
“Satan was a
murderer from the beginning.”
That's his M.O., it’s what he loves to do, to take people out so
they don't accept Christ as Savior. That's one way unbelievers get into the cosmic vortex, through
demon possession. Another way, and this one would be for any Christian, is by demon influence.
This is where believers have to fight the thinking of demons, the doctrine of demons. Believers
have their thoughts invaded by the thoughts of demons. Listen to 1 Timothy 4:1-2,
“But the
Spirit explicitly teaches that in the latter period of time, some believers will withdraw from sound
doctrine, giving heed to deceitful spirits and the doctrine of demons by means of hypocrisy of
liars seared in their own conscience by a branding iron.”
Satan has his own doctrine. Satan has
his own pastors and they teach the doctrine of demons and they can mislead you. They are
deceitful and they will take you into an area that you don't belong into. It will create an
emotional revolt in your soul where your soul blacks out, you'll develop scar tissue. Your heart
will get hard. You’ll no longer feel conviction about what's right and what's wrong. That's why
Paul warns you in
Ephesians 4:27,
“Do not give the devil any opportunity in your life.”
You
can get into the cosmic vortex by demon influence or you can get into the cosmic vortex by
your own personal sin.
Curating sin in your life, not confessing your sin, getting out of
fellowship with God, developing a lifestyle of human good but not divine good which essentially
is nothing but evil, misrepresenting the plan of God, mis-living the plan of God, it looks real, it
sounds real but it's counterfeit, it's evil. Anytime you're in one of these, you're in the cosmic
system. That's not where you belong. So how do you get out of the cosmic vortex? Well, if
you’re a Christian you rebound. You can escape the trap of the devil, 2 Timothy 2:25-26,
“Having been held captive by him to do his will.”
You can escape it by confessing your sin to
God, going to the Father and simply admitting your sin. Once you're in this vortex it's equal to a
lifestyle of spiritual death in time. You’re alive spiritually in eternity, that's not the problem, but
in time, you're out of fellowship. It’s like you're spiritually dead in time, you have no fellowship
with God. If that's happened to you, if you’ve lost your fellowship with God, if you don't feel
like you're advancing or growing, rebound, problem-solving device number one. Go to God,
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admit your sin, confess your sin, and get under the ministry of a qualified pastor who can teach
you who you are, what you are, and how to handle the things you do.
That's what the Word of
God is there for. It's a different way of thinking, a different way of living, a different
mindset. It's a mindset of humility not arrogance.
Boy, I hope you're listening and I hope
you're learning. I hope all of this is making sense to you. That's why we do these radio shows.
This is your host Rick Hughes saying thank you for listening
Join the riveting discourse on Trump's legal warfare against mainstream media outlets, following a significant defamation settlement with ABC. We listen to the outcry against misleading journalistic practices that have skewed public perception, dissect lawsuits in the works, and question the profound impact of media integrity on democratic processes. Featuring a range of public responses and speculative theories about state-controlled drone sightings, this episode leaves no stone unturned in its quest for truth.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
SPEAKER 16 :
I try to be a happy warrior. I really do. I make it a point to come into the studio as optimistic as I possibly can be. And then it's like my team just starts to deflate me. It's like they give me stuff just to throw a wet blanket, and it's not their fault. I mean, I'm not blaming them. I'm sort of reflecting on the way of the world right now. If I told you that there was already a documentary in the works over this monster who the authorities say gunned down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, would that surprise you? And it's a far-left filmmaker. who's already planning a documentary about Luigi Mangione's life. A documentary, which of course would be music to his ears, I'm sure. I'm sure the alleged killer loves the fact, oh, they're going to make a movie about me? Look, I have a big debate about whether or not to mention his name. I probably shouldn't. Because these twisted, sick deviants who commit these shocking acts of violence against humanity want notoriety. And now, Jigsaw Productions... and anonymous content are teaming up, according to Variety, to develop and produce a documentary about the December 4th fatal shooting that took place in Midtown Manhattan just before Brian Thompson was set to speak at an investor conference. Now, the reason I guess it's compelling material is perhaps the leftist filmmakers will explore the phenomenon of people on the left... Loving, craving violence. As long as it's violence committed against, you know, the right people. I guess they love the idea of a health care executive. being shot dead, cowering on the sidewalk while this guy walked up and assassinated him. You've seen the video, right? You want me to get graphic? Shoots him once from the back. I believe that's the shot that got him in the leg. The guy goes down, rolls over on his side, and this punk walks up and finishes him off. And they want to make a movie about it. People are cheering him at concerts. They've made a board game already about it. You know what the board game has? Faces of other CEOs of healthcare executives to be assassinated. This is today's left. This is why we're different. This is the paradigm of our time. Our friend Dennis Prager often says, everything the left touches, they destroy. Right? Not all. I would say everybody on the left. I know there's a difference between a Bill Maher or Tulsi Gabbard-style Democrat and a leftist kook who thinks it's a good idea to make a documentary about this freak. People on the left are twisted, evil creatures. They hate everything that is right in the world. Everything that is good about our country, they despise. They are anti-God. They are anti-patriotism. They are anti-law and order. They're anti-family. Everything we treasure, they tear down. And Finally, finally, we've got some normalcy coming back to the country. Did you see the press conference, Trump's press conference yesterday? My gosh, he was so good. He was as good as it gets. And he went right through the list of the things he's going to do in his first year of his presidency. He's suing more media outlets? Why wouldn't he? ABC had to give him $15 million for their defamation. Why wouldn't he sue the Des Moines Register and that Ann Seltzer character with her goofy poll? Oh, she's such a great pollster. What was she off by, 17 points? She had Kamala Harris winning Iowa? Kamala Harris didn't win a single... Every single county in America... shifted to the right. Every one. She was such an awful candidate that you know the only thing Kamala Harris is going to be good for? Governor of California. You watch and see. She'll wind up being governor of California. They deserve each other. You wait and see. That's her next chapter. This awful, this dreadful, this vapid, empty pantsuit is going to wind up replacing Gavin Newsom. You mark my words, it'll absolutely happen. And nobody's going to be surprised. But Trump talked about suing the media. Do you blame him? Here he was yesterday talking about why there's a need to sue media outlets that lie about him.
SPEAKER 13 :
I want to expand on the defamation lawsuits. Could you see moving that to other people with individual platforms, social media influencers, people that... Or newspapers, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Oh, I do. I do. I think you have to do it because they're very dishonest. We need a great media. We need a fair media. We need... It's very important.
SPEAKER 16 :
Is he wrong to expect the media to treat him fairly? Is that a big, heavy lift? What's wrong with him saying we need a fair media? And the media itself, the usual suspects, are flipping out. Check out Jake Tapper over on CNN.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't want to overstate Trump's friendliness and genial attitude at this press conference because this weekend ABC News agreed to pay $16 million, including legal fees, to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by Trump against the network and their anchor, George Stephanopoulos. And that obviously will not be the end of this campaign against the media, legal campaign against the media. We heard him go after many other news outlets today. Take a listen.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm going to be bringing one against the people in Iowa, their newspaper. We're filing one on 60 Minutes. We're involved in one which has been going on for a while and very successfully against Bob Woodward. We have one very interestingly on Pulitzer. because reporters at the New York Times, Washington Post got Pulitzer Prizes for their wonderful, accurate, and highly professional reporting on the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
SPEAKER 12 :
We don't have time to go into all of that, but just to touch base on a couple, there's one of them is the people of Iowa, the Des Moines Register, that's because there was a poll that was inaccurate. Mm-hmm. The one on 60 Minutes is because they didn't like the editing that had been done to Kamala Harris. Yeah, I mean, this is wildly ridiculous.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wildly ridiculous. You know what Jake Tapper doesn't acknowledge? The reason Trump feels emboldened to go continue these lawsuits is because he won against ABC. I mean, they acknowledged you don't pay $16 million if you didn't do anything wrong. Take it to court. It's real simple. George Stephanopoulos lied like nine or ten times in one interview with Nancy Mace. Said that it was adjudicated that Trump raped that kooky E. Jean Carroll lady. And that's not true. In fact, that's literally the 180 degree opposite of what the jury determined. So he lied. That's defamation. If there's a poll that was purposefully manipulated to try to influence the outcome of the election in Iowa, they need to be sued. If 60 Minutes engaged in election interference by painting Kamala Harris in a way that was completely false, they need to be sued. Let's all be fair for a moment. Let's all do our best to be. I'm trying to be fair right now. I'm trying to be fair. Why did ABC give him $16 million if they didn't do anything wrong? They make Trump out to be the bad guy for collecting $16 million from ABC. That's what Jake Tapper is trying to do. Trump is the culprit for ABC forking over $16 million to Donald Trump. It's called defamation. You're not allowed to do it. You can't lie about people. In the media. Wantonly and recklessly and maliciously. And that's what ABC's George Stephanopoulos did. He ought to be fired. Clearly. The guy isn't fit to sit there and have a big high position of authority at ABC. It's why he deactivated his Twitter account. It's why he didn't even mention it on Sunday morning's broadcast. He is disgraced. He got his company... He was responsible for making his entire company, Disney, which owns ABC, fork over $16 million. Is that Trump's fault? Again, let's be fair. I want you and me to be fair here, and I want to open up the phone lines on this Tuesday here in the Relief Factor studios. Let's be totally and completely fair. Isn't it reasonable for Donald Trump to expect the media to treat him fairly? And if ABC felt that they had to give him $16 million for their defamation, how is that Trump's fault? Be fair with your answer. 1-800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. We have two lines open for you. Now's the time for you to jump on board and join us. Welcome into a December 17th episode of the Mike Gallagher Show in the Relief Factor Studios. 800-655-MIKE.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Mike Gallagher.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, this headline has thrown me into a complete frenzy. Luigi Mangione documentary in the works from Alex Gibney. Now, I wonder when the documentary is going to be made about the Nashville school shooter. Or what about the documentary in the works about the guy that nearly blew Trump's head off? There's a documentary in the works about him. Oh, no, we don't even know who he is. We know anything about him. That just got turned, that was just turned the page. They killed him, moved on. What about him? What was his motivation? Anybody interested in the guy that nearly assassinated Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, which would have completely changed the course of human history? You know, this school shooting in Madison, Wisconsin is obviously awful. The assassination of the UnitedHealthcare CEO is obviously awful. I would think the near assassination of the man who wound up becoming the 47th president is a little bit more significant. Wouldn't you think there'd be a documentary? Oh, no, Alex Gibney isn't interested in a documentary. He's a leftist filmmaker. Why would he care? Why would he care? I've got to believe that just like leftists are celebrating the murder of UnitedHealthcare's Brian Thompson, they probably celebrated the near-murder of Donald Trump in Butler, PA. They are evil. No other way to describe them. Here's a text of the day already from Minnesota. On the MyPillow text line, it is beyond satisfying to finally see the media experiencing consequences for their behavior. They've destroyed countless people's lives. It's like watching the bully who beats you up and steals your lunch money getting expelled because of their vile behavior. The media is no longer trusted. They've been allowed free reign for far too long. Enough is enough. It's time to pay the piper. I am with you, Minnesota. Great point. Matt's in Louisville. Matt, welcome. Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 10 :
Merry Christmas, Mike. I'm just amazed that these people aren't grateful in the media that they're not being arrested for inciting the riot and assassination. You call somebody Hitler long enough, you're going to have some poor knucklehead out there who's a complete... I mean, they're going to try to save history.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. You know what I mean? And if you call somebody Hitler and you convince your audience that somebody is Adolf Hitler, what wouldn't you do to stop Adolf Hitler?
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right. I mean, Rush used to have the caller abortion thing. I don't mean any of this literally, but I mean, I'm for getting... The media needs to just go or else reform itself.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they're on life support. The media is dying. The mainstream media, there is now... We're having our moment, talk radio, platforms like Salem News Channel, podcasts, digital, great talk stations all over the country. And these guys are on life support. There's a revolt over at the Washington Post. They can't find a new editor. I mean, you should see the turmoil at the Washington Post. CNN's firing people left and right. And this is their own doing. Hey, I want to lighten the mood for a few minutes. I want you to meet, if you're a longtime listener of this show, you know the name Jen Kramer. She's one of the most entertaining, family-friendly magicians in America. One of the best in the business. This Las Vegas headliner is going to join us next because she's going to do a Florida swing. We'll tell you all about it and say hi to Jen next. Said goodnight.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
SPEAKER 16 :
Got some breaking news. I can give you the definitive explanation for the drones. It came from Bethany Frankel, who I think is one of the Real Housewives from the Real Housewives franchise over there at Bravo Network. She knows because she's got a friend of a friend who has a friend who worked for NASA and the government. Look, she's as credible as John Kirby. White House official John Kirby says after his extensive assessment of the drones... Not to worry, he says, the drones are perfectly legal, they're normal, they're lawful, which, of course, makes you think that the government is, in fact, behind the drones. So we're in great hands here. We've got a government that's lying to us about these. They're pretending that there's nothing to see here, folks. All these calls I'm getting from New Jersey. Can we get calls from people who've seen the drones? Let's do that right now, Teresa. 1-800-655-MIKE. Got a lot of people listening to us on AM 970, The Answer. Now we've got a lot of people watching us all throughout the Northeast on Salem News Channel. If you found us on Samsung Plus TV, Channel 1177, or Pluto, or... FUBU or FUBO, all the different platforms. I lose track because we've got so many. Look, if it's streaming video, you'll probably get to see the show. And we welcome you to the Mike Gallagher Show, especially if you're a new viewer. We're very excited about the growth of Salem News Channel. And we've got big things planned for you in 2025. All kinds of lineup changes coming as well. with Seb Gorka from the Salem family joining the Trump White House. Hugh Hewitt's going to move to afternoons. Chris Stegall is going to get mornings. I'm thrilled for Chris. In fact, there's a big article about Chris in Barrett Media today, which is great. Big profile on how he made his way to become a national host. You know, it's a funny thing. My whole career, I never had any aspirations to go national. I was so happy being a local host in the upstate of South Carolina. And then it's funny how there was a turn of events. There was a turn of events, and I was let go from Clemson after a few years of hosting the Tiger Tailgate show. And I said, I'm out. I got to leave. I would have been happy to be in South Carolina, I think, for the rest of my life. But... Somebody didn't like me at the – a donor, some donor at Clemson didn't like my politics. I guess they were a liberal and didn't like my views, so they sent me packing. And I was doing – I was hosting the Tiger Tailgate show. I was doing the basketball PA at Little John Coliseum. I was having a great time and a great ride. And when that happened, I thought, well, I've got time to leave. I told Denise, time to look for another market. We wound up in Albany, New York, and then New York City, and then the rest is history. So had they not let me go from Clemson, I probably wouldn't be here sitting before you today. So kind of funny how these kind of things tend to play out, how they work out. But anyway, I digress. If you've seen a drone, call me, 800-655-MIKE, because I'm not buying any of it. One of two things is true. The government knows exactly what they are, and they're not telling, or they're clueless, which means that they're incompetent. It's got to be one or the other. I mean, for them to tell us that there's nothing to see here makes a whole bunch of people who have written the show, called the show, expressed... concern about these drones irrelevant and i don't believe that for a minute i don't accept that i don't think you do either they know what these things are and everybody says that over and over again we all say they know what they are they know exactly what they are they're just not telling us why aren't they telling us bethany frankel knows where do you hear her explanation Does it shock you that one of the real housewives has more information than John Kirby? Here's Dennis in Tennessee. Dennis, have you seen a drone?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, but I know what they are.
SPEAKER 16 :
What are they, Dennis?
SPEAKER 04 :
They're discreet ED medication delivery.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's not very discreet. Goodbye. Tip your waitresses. Dennis will be here all weekend. 800-655-MIKE. Joel in Sacramento. Joel, what about the drones?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I just wanted to say why the drones are up there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Why are they up there, Joel?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because I think it's just a ruse because Trump is going to be exposed on Inauguration Day, and it might lead to something happening to him. That's what I'm worried about.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, you mean like there'll be riots? The drones? The drones? Well, a drone. A drone. Well, why are they going to fly around a month before the inauguration? Like a test run in New Jersey? He's not going to get inaugurated in New Jersey.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, I understand that. I think it's just the rules. I think it's just the rules that they're flying around. A distraction.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. I think we're all getting a little loopy over the drones. But look, I take my advice from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. Is she New Jersey? Is Bethany Frankel? She's like one of the original ones, right? I don't know. I don't know the real. I know it's a huge, huge franchise over there. They got Real Housewives. I flipped. I was channel surfing the other night and came across the Real Housewives of Utah. Awful women all shrieking at each other. And does anybody believe any of those scenarios are real? You know they're play acting. There's cameras everywhere. They're doing it for the cameras. It's insufferable. But nonetheless, one of the original Real Housewives, Bethany Frankel, knows exactly, based on her authoritative sources, what the drones are all about.
SPEAKER 01 :
You're gonna think I'm nuts, but why should today be any different than any other day? I know this guy whose father worked with the Pentagon and NASA and like secret projects. And he has been messaging me That he will never forgive himself if he doesn't tell the people that he knows that for a month he's been watching this situation. And now, several days ago before it became a discussion in the mainstream media, that these drones are ours and that they could very possibly be sniffing out something very dangerous, some missing person. dangerous W from the war and that areas that coincide with where the drones have been seen have spiked in radiation. So he said, it's time to think about where I am and that I might want to go somewhere with my daughter. So, like, for me, you know, we blow things off and we think nothing's going to happen, but things do happen. I remember sitting in my car with my driver who said to me months before I even knew what the words global pandemic meant, I think there's going to be a global pandemic. I'm like, what are you talking about? I mean, if he had bet the markets, he would have been a billionaire. So I'm just listening to this guy and watching. And now Trump, who's hanging out with a lot of billionaires who have a lot of money for research, is also finding out that these are ours. And what were the government's choices? A, tell us that that's what they're doing and widespread panic and pandemonium. Or B, do what they're doing. But something is wrong because otherwise they would eliminate them. And everyone's being very cagey. So what do you think? This guy has also been talking to... You know what I think?
SPEAKER 16 :
I'll tell you what I think. If it's between John Kirby or Kareem Jean-Pierre and Bethany Frankel, the real housewife from New Jersey, I'm going with Bethany Frankel. 800-655-MIKE. We're in the Relief Factor studios. Welcome aboard. Eight days till Christmas. Your voice, your call, your perspective at 800-655-MIKE. Coming up...
SPEAKER 05 :
One seems to hear words of good cheer from everywhere, filling the air. Oh, how they flow, raising the sound. Oh, hear the day-telling of times. Hear the merry while people sing songs of good cheer. Christmas is here. Titty, titty, bitty, bitty Christmas. Titty, titty, bitty, bitty Christmas. Gone on this end, gone with the hand. There's a little joy to every boy. Gone on this end, gone with the hand. There
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The day after Donald Trump had that crazy rally at Madison Square Garden, I rolled the dice and I called him on the phone. And he answered!
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Of course he did! Of course...
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What he said.
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And I wasn't calling to chit-chat. I said, Mr. President, this is Stephanie Ruhle. You made a lot of comments last night, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it was not an on-the-record conversation. Long story, so I'm not going to get into what he said. But I called for one reason. I said, you just said a whole bunch of public things. I'd like to sit down for an interview with you. We got five days before the election. So we didn't get into anything. There's nothing for me to report. I called him and said, I want an interview with you. Obviously, he said no. But my point is... I was able to get to him by dialing his phone. Now that might be completely a and you're like, I can't believe people know this guy's phone number. But the reverse of that, if I were to want to connect with VP Harris or President Biden, there's 50 people between me and that. I could write a note that maybe could get to somebody to get somebody then through Pony Express and a pigeon, something might end up in a mailbox near them. And I called DJT to say, yo, can I have an interview with you?
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Now, we can relate to that. I've probably interviewed him 15 or 20 times over the phone over the years. And every single time he's called the studio, he calls in himself. He picks up the phone and he calls. I'll never forget, Eric, the first or second time this happened, Eric Hansen was so stunned. He said, Donald Trump is on the phone. It's him. It wasn't an aide. It wasn't an assistant. This is like the billionaire version of Mr. Smith goes to Washington. And they've been so wrong about him all along. And it's almost like they're suddenly coming to their senses. Now all of a sudden they get him. Here's Ben Dominich last night on Fox News describing how the media is now seemingly getting it. The Stephanie rules of the world are saying, it seems, maybe we had this guy wrong all along.
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while I think is going to be adversarial, as it was the first time around, is not going to be perhaps as lunatic as it was at certain junctures, in part because I think the press is just flabbergasted at how much they've gotten wrong over the past several years. This has been a real eye-opener, I think, for a lot of people. The idea that Jeff Bezos, for instance, would crack down on his own editorial page at the Washington Post and say, no, we're not going to deal in this insanity anymore, even in the in the direction that would result in backlash from his own writers and opinion makers. I think that's something that we didn't see the first time around, and we're going to see a lot more of it this time around.
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He's probably right. Check out the press conference yesterday. Here are some highlights, courtesy of Fox News Channel, of Trump's late morning press conference yesterday from Mar-a-Lago.
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The administration is trying to sell it for five cents on the dollar, knowing that we're getting ready to put it up. And what they're doing is really an act. It's almost a criminal act. We're bringing business back, and they're all coming back. We lost them over years of stupidity. A golden age of America, I call it. It's begun.
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How do you plan to stop the ban on TikTok next month?
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We'll take a look at TikTok. You know, I have a warm spot in my heart for TikTok because I won youth by 34 points. Are you entertaining the idea of preemptive strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities? Am I going to do preemptive strikes on Iran? Is that a serious question? I don't want to insult you. I just think it's just not something that I would ever answer.
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Do you want RFK Jr. to revoke any vaccines?
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No, I want him to come back with a report as to what he thinks. I think you're going to find... Bobby is a very rational guy. I found him to be very rational.
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So there's a little bit of the highlights of yesterday's press conference at Mar-a-Lago. Now, Gary in Erie, Pennsylvania, says he's seen the drones. And, Gary, you have a big buildup. You know, the Talk Erie X account, which is at Talk Erie. I follow them, of course, FM 103.3 and FM 105.9 and AM 1530. And they actually heard me tease that I was going to talk to you, and they just posted, Caller from Erie, Pennsylvania, coming up on the Mike Gallagher Show on 105.9 FM to talk about the drones. Mike Gallagher. How about that buildup, huh? You got a big lead-in on social media. How about Mike? Is that you, Mike? That's me, Gary. Is this Gary? Jerry. Oh, Jerry? Teresa's got Gary on the screen. How you doing, Jerry?
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I'm not doing too bad. Good, good. You know, I've been listening to... Hello? TV all night.
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Yes, Jerry.
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And on their... They explained that there is a nuclear warhead from a missile that was misplaced.
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Gotcha. Misplaced. They misplaced the nuclear warhead. Jerry, let me ask you a question because I'm really baffled here. Teresa said you've seen a drone, your name is Gary, and she didn't tell you to turn your radio down. So we're 0 for 3. I'm teasing you, Teresa. Jerry, did you see any drones? I seen some drones. But you did. I seen the lights. You saw the lights? The lights on drones. The lights on the drones, but not the drones themselves. What color were the lights, Jerry? They were white. They were white lights. Okay. Well, don't go to the light yet. Jerry, don't go to the light. Remember that old thing from Poltergeist? Stay away from the light. You want to go away from... Listen, tell me. Yes, sir. Yes, Jerry.
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All right.
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Uh-huh.
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Yes, sir. According to the information that I listened to last night... On the TV. On the TV.
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Yep.
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From... Yeah, Jerry. Okay. There is a nuclear warhead. Yeah, we got that. You said that already.
SPEAKER 16 :
We got that. What TV? In the United States. Yeah, we got that. You said that already.
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And they are looking for it.
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They're looking for the nuclear warhead that they misplaced. What were you listening, what were you watching on TV, Jerry?
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What channels? I'm listening... SNC.
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SNC. On Salem. Oh, us. Salem News Channel. Yeah. There you go. Well, look, that's a good source. You're getting it from the best. You're getting it from the best.
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Yep.
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Now, they're looking for it. They're sniffing for it. Sniffing for it, yeah.
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With the drone. With the drones. All right. Well, look, if you see any more white lights. And if they find it.
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Yes, sir.
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If they find it. Yes, sir. They may use it. Use it against us. Against the. Against.
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Against the who? Against Trump's. Trump's what? Or what?
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Dive into today's episode of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast as we navigate through a series of wild and entertaining stories. From the peculiar cases of 'Florida Man' to discussing San Francisco's new consultant role on weight stigma, each segment showcases the humor and realities of modern life. Our show doesn't shy away from tough conversations, tackling Obamacare's implications on personal responsibility alongside unexpected Florida antics.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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This is the most of the stories I'm starting off like that. So a guy, a Florida guy nicknamed Shroom decided – Decided to settle a $150 debt by going to an apartment to get to, I guess, to collect $150. And they call the guy the victim, I guess, the victim who owned, who supposedly owed him money. He was just there playing video games. The three dudes, including Shroom, was among them. Busted on his door. They roughed him up. The victim got pistol whipped. And then the victim recognized one of the masked men. And that was his old buddy Shroom, who's Lazaro Gonzalez Gonzalez. I don't know why he has two of the same name, but he does. Well, I don't get that. He kind of looks like a shroom, I guess. And yes, the victim did owe $150. But Instead of working out a payment plan, he declared that the three men destroyed $150 of his own property. So they decided that that was even. But Shroom did go to jail for assault. That's just one of the – I'm trying to get over his name. That's the biggest offense in this piece. Florida man lost a drone to an alligator after flying it too close to the water. We need to get some of these gators up in Jersey. Drone operators – I never heard of that, of where a gator got it. And this story, by the way, that's written by a website called Motor Biscuit, they don't know how to write stories because they bury the lead four graphs down. But a guy in Florida obviously flew his drone way too close to a gator. He was trying to get a good shot of it. And I guess he didn't realize that gators can actually propel themselves up out of the water with their tails. And that's exactly what happened. The gator just like jumped up like a great white shark would jump up. He jumped up out of the water and grabbed the drone and then went into a death roll. So that guy's not going to get his drone back, Kane. I don't think that guy's – I think that's a loss. Yeah, that's definitely a loss. Yeah, that's not – that ain't never coming back. It's never, ever coming back. Let's see. This guy – stole a Rolls Royce and crashed it into a checkers. Now I had to stop here because I haven't heard of that place in a long time. That's the hamburger place, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The rallies and the checkers. Because didn't checkers buy rallies or something like that? Okay. It was a Rolls Royce SUV and it was stolen from a valet at a Fort Lauderdale hotel and they crashed it into a checkers at 2.15 a.m. A Rolls Royce. I don't even know. It's an SUV. I mean, maybe he was like super hungry. By the way, the restaurant where he crashed it was barely six miles away from the hotel. Mm hmm. And the punishment in Florida for grand theft auto is actually based on the value of the property stolen. And the top tier is any vehicle over $100,000. And this is even more than that. So this guy is looking to face up to 30 years in jail. For taking a six, barely six mile joyride, stealing a Rolls Royce SUV and crashing it into a checkers. So I don't know the guy who, by the way, the Rolls Royce owner, he told CBS News Miami that he was sleeping and they valet went and knocked on his door or the hotel did. And they said it was stolen from the valet. So, yeah, it wasn't found at the checkers. It was found inside the checkers because he reined it. ran it in there uh let's see this guy i'm not reading that uh this because it's gross i'm not doing that can we just not with the stories about everybody exposing themselves what is up with that is it just because it's humid down there i don't know a florida man was arrested during a treehouse robbery yeah i don't know and there's crack cocaine involved Florida authorities arrested a guy because police said he stabbed a man to death during a robbery in a tree house. It stemmed from a crack deal. Of course it did. Monroe County Sheriff's deputies say the victim, 59-year-old Matthew Bonnet, was trying to help a neighbor who was being robbed by two mask men. The female victim lived in a treehouse in the trailer park. So she didn't have a trailer in the trailer park. She had a treehouse in the trailer park. And I guess they climbed up there and the deal went sideways and they stabbed her. The guy's being held in Monroe County Jail.
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San Francisco has a new government position. Did you hear about this? No. Yeah. It is a consultant. I'm not going to play this whole video because it's stupid. Well, maybe I will, actually. This person is supposed to be the, checks notes, weight stigma czar. What? Mm-hmm. Now, Cain, I want you to tell me if the person whose image I just placed in Slack is qualified to be the Chex Notes weight stigma czar.
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Well, she'd... No. I almost went on a tangent there, but no. Juan's going to be putting up a quick little video of her in action.
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What is weight neutrality?
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I think that's in space, right? You're weightless?
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We'll play this when he gets it. It's that ridiculous. She's working with a team at the San Francisco Department of Public Health, it says here, as a consultant on weight stigma and weight neutrality. What is weight neutrality? What is that? Is that a thing?
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Does it have a flag? I guess if you're just neutral about the idea of weight or extra weight. Your guess is as good as mine, but Juan's ready if you're ready.
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Oh, please. Let's hear this. I'm sorry.
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Hi, my name is Virgie Tovar, and I'm the author of You Have the Right to Remain Fat, as well as a few other books on fat positivity and body acceptance. When I think about what people might be surprised by or what you wouldn't think of when you think of eating disorders, I immediately think of being a kid. I was a kid in a larger body, a teen in a larger body, and also an adult in a larger body. And the message I always got from my doctor was, shrink your body by any means necessary. And it really felt like there was a sense of a don't ask, don't tell. So because I truly, truly, truly believed. And this is where I think the surprise comes in. I really believed that this was about my health. I really believed that my doctor was right. Because why would I believe anything?
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That's real.
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That's real. Your doctor was right. And it's not... Let's not do fat positivity. I don't believe in fat shaming people unless, you know, the calls for it. But people pointing out that your obesity is a comorbidity is a health issue. That's not people trying to be mean. And I think people need to stop being victims. Stop being a victim. I mean, come on. Seriously. It's... I... really don't understand this idea. Was this a backlash to the heroin chic of the 90s? Is that what we're living with still?
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What I don't get is imagine any other health concern, whether it's diabetes or whether it's just anything health-wise. Would you encourage people to continue behavior that would exasperate or make that health problem worse? Would you do that? Would you affirm them? Knowing that it would make their problem worse?
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Why would you do that? When she says, you know, you have a right to be fat or whatever, you don't. And here's why. You don't. Absolutely, you blink and do not. And here's why. Absolutely. After Obamacare passed and we all had to pay higher insurance premiums to pay for people who didn't or couldn't want to pay, oh, I get to have a say in all of that. So you don't get any rights because you invited my tax dollars in. And where my tax dollars go, I follow with a boot in the door. That's what happens. No, I get to be involved in it. Yeah, you don't.
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My body, my choice.
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No, no. It's not my choice to pay your damn bills, so it's not your body to make a choice of. No. If my money goes to it, I'm the boss of you. I will go and knock that zinger right the hell out your hand, and I'll put a carrot in its place, okay? Oh, you want to have a little Debbie's fudge round? Eat some cucumber or broccoli. Stop it. I have a right too. I have a right to go where my tax dollars go. And if you're sucking up more of my tax dollars because you can't get a handle on your weight, then that's a problem for me. I shouldn't have to subsidize that. No one thought of that when they were pushing for the expansion of Obamacare and jacking up everybody's premiums so that we would have to pay for everyone else's care. So no. And everyone's like, oh, Dana. Look, I work really hard. To stay in shape and I eat healthy and I do intermittent fasting. I do all of that stuff. I've always worked out. I've always been athletic. I've always maintained. And it's not because a privilege just decided to, you know, a fairy godmother apparated out of the ether and was like, I'm going to make you like this forever. It's you actually it's an effort. And I don't want to hear about anyone else's problems or excuses. I don't care. Make the effort. And don't expect me to pay your medical bills because that's the situation we're all in. And as a result, no one can say that they have a right to be this or that. Since you wanted, you asked for this. We warned you. Don't say that we didn't warn you because we did. But back to my first question. What the hell is weight neutrality? What is that? Like I'm trying to imagine. So, you know, we have a lot of truckers that listen. God love them. Is that like when do they do that for the weight on your truck? You know, like if you go in and you're a weigh station and they're like, oh, you're weight neutral to a truck and they're low. Do they say that?
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No.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I'm pretty positive. No.
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I'm just fascinated by I've never I'm today years old. I've never heard of that phrase. The whole weight neutrality thing. Right now, I will say this. I do think that some chicks can go way too far the other way. Like I always bring up Madonna as an example. She at some point as you age, my grandmother always said at one point in her life, a woman has to choose between her face or her body. Now, I've already told you guys, maybe I haven't been public about it, what my goal is. Because everyone always thinks I've never had plastic surgery or anything like that for the love. But I do have a plan to combat wrinkles when it starts setting in. I mean, I got a little bit here and there. But I got a plan. You want to know my plan? I'm going to get fat. It's a natural filler. I'm just going to... Because I choose face... That's it. I choose face because you can't hide ugly. That's why.
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Do you have the right to be fat then at that point?
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Well, I'm going to do it in like a healthy way. I'm not going to be like morbidly obese. That's totally my plan. All right. My grandmother was like, and she said the age is different. What she told me was that she was like, at some point in her life, a woman has to choose between face or body. And I'm like, well, she's like, you won't know until you get there. And then she looked at me and she was like, I chose face. She was like, that's why she was like very proud. She's like, that's why I chose face. That's why I don't have hardly no wrinkles. That's what she would say. And I get it. So that's my that's my I'm kind of joking, but not really. That's my whole goal. But not like morbidly obese. Just, you know. I'm just saying. It's all natural. But there's a difference. You don't want to be like visceral and tawny like Madonna, right? I don't want to see like your... your ligaments and stuff. Like I don't, you, a woman shouldn't look like beef jerky. You know what I mean? Like you're supposed to be soft. I don't, don't, don't be brainwashed by these, you know, fourth wave fem bots into thinking that you can't have any fat on your body. Women need it. And especially as you get older, you know, you're, you're, you need that, extra especially if you get older because you know it helps you when you're an older age so anyway i still don't understand what weight neutral is i'm gonna hear from every trucker who listens to us i am gonna get treaties on it that's what's gonna happen like big essays on it i can't wait all right we got we we got a lot more to come as uh we roll towards where are we at oh my gosh are we already at headlines is this already the third hour Bye. Bye. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin. hydroxychloroquine, or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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TikTok is asking the Supreme Court to block a law that could ban the app. I think it's I do think it's weird that we can't convince people because people are sheep. We can't convince people to stop using TikTok. So we're just going to have the government ban it because we can't. We apparently telling them that you're literally being a prostitute for the CCP. And having your information harvested by them, that's not enough to appeal to people's common sense, good nature or brainpower. So we're having to have the Supreme Court. We're begging them to come and block it because people are stupid and asteroids should come and obliterate this rock. Merry Christmas. That's just dumb to me that we do this. Ban everything. We're going to talk about this coming up. Friendship after 50. Apparently they I don't care about this headline. I don't really care. Moving on. Nobody cares. I don't care. I don't care. Go make friends or don't. Don't bitch about it to me. I don't care.
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Monday for some reason.
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I'm just done. Start putting a startup that puts ammo. Oh, now this one. Ammo vending machines and grocery stores?
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Let's investigate this.
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Yes, please. I need to get it. Hang on. Wait. Everybody hold up. Pause the show. I need to make a note of who this is so I can play into it. Okay. Just anyway, back to the headline. Ammo vending machines and grocery stores. There's a startup that plans to grow this and expand it. It's based in Dallas. Yay! American Rounds rolled its first automated retail ammo. It's in a grocery store, but it's in Pell City, Alabama. Why are you going to Bama? Why can't you come do that here? All kinds of ammo. That actually is amazing. And then, of course, you have people who are like, you have a social responsibility to make it possible, blah, blah, blah. Or no, you don't. Other people do.
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When I was younger, I had a friend that had a soda machine in his garage, and I thought that was the coolest thing ever. I would love an ammo machine in my garage.
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Why? I want one in my garage that someone can just come and they serve it. Service it. I love this. But this idea that companies have a social. No, they don't. Shut up. That's you. That's when people are too lazy. I'm too lazy and stupid to have my own responsibility about society. So I'm going to ask the companies that make products I purchase to do it for me. Shut up. Let's see here. Moving on. Because that's a good one. Species in Chernobyl of fungus is mutating to feed on nuclear radiation. That's actually kind of cool. Maybe we can send that out on the drone since we lost nuclear. I mean, great job, Biden. Great job. You literally have one job. But it's mutating to feed on nuclear radiation. I feel like this is some kid's crazy science experiment in a way, right? And they're trying to say that X has a declining user base. And that's from Mashable, which is the same. It brings you the same journalistic news and literary value as smearing feces on a dive bar bathroom wall. Same thing. I almost couldn't believe this when I saw it. I don't know who this Clarissa Ward is. People keep saying that she's an actress and I wasn't familiar with her. She's like decided to, she's a British person with CNN. I guess she was, I don't know. She started at Fox and I don't know why they say that she's like this, like an actress or something, but she's, I don't know. She's very dramatic, as you will if you've watched any of this footage when she's gone and saved this dude. So they had this segment on CNN where Clarissa Ward was over there in Syria and she's reporting on the collapse of the Assad regime and all this stuff. And She saves they save this save this guy who is apparently and it was all staged. They acted like they were rescuing him from a prison. And as it turns out, he was actually an intelligence officer in the Assad regime. And I guess he was acting like he was a prisoner. And he was acting like he had been kept prisoner. And he's really putting on this big show of being freed. And it turns out he was not only an intelligence officer with the Assad regime, but he also was one of his main torturers. Yeah. The main torturers. One of the big guys that Assad used. And They brought him out. And he's like hugging. He hugged Clarissa Ward. And he acts like he's so relieved. Like, I can't believe it. Like this poor innocent man that we've saved. We saved him from the presence. And he was just kept against his will. And he was one of the baddies. I mean, they're all baddies at this point. But he was one of the legit baddies over there. So now CNN had to admit... This was a headline that they had, quote, freed prisoner who said he was a victim of the Assad regime was an intelligence officer, locals say. He was actually a literal lieutenant in the Air Force Intelligence Directorate. Oh, oh, they helped free this guy. He's known for harassment and extortion and all kinds of stuff, all kinds of stuff. You know, CNN, the guy who literally looked at this Syrian interrogator, this baddie, and they thought he was an innocent torture victim. Oh, he's leaning on her. Oh, my gosh.
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He's like, I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I can barely walk. Someone get him a chair, this poor man.
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CNN has a member of the Assad regime that their state. And here's the other thing. They take the guy out of the prison cell. What does she do? They sit him down and they immediately go into an interview. They weren't even even if he wasn't a torturer, they were not concerned about getting him to a hospital or anything like that. She's like, oh, no, I've got to sit you down and I have to interview you for my program. Let's do that now. And then he acts like he's shaking and he can't eat. He was jailing people. He was torturing people. He's one of the baddies. He's one of the baddie baddies.
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And he acts like he's, I just, I'm just yet but a simple man. I just can't, I'm just so sad. I can't believe you freed me, CNN, you bastion of reporting, the giant of international journalism.
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Can you imagine being her and then waking up after you think you've done like a Pulitzer level story? And this happens because, you know, that's what she was thinking. She was just like, I watched this. I watched that whole thing. She's like, let's get you sit. I mean, she was just. But at the same time, it barely masked her glee at being able to have a story like this. You know, oh, let's get you for an interview. They pull the guy right out of a cell. They're like, OK, let's sit you down in a chair. Now it's time for an interview. I mean, at least she was thinking business first, I guess. You know, that's what CNN likes.
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And I mean, this may not be a popular opinion, but to me, she's like the female Charles Jaco.
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Don't. He's going to sue the internet again, Cain.
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Good luck, Charles.
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Do you guys know who Charles Jaco is? He is a sentient skin tag who has some hair on it, and he came from St.
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Louis. What you said is worse than what I said.
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No. I mean, you said that. I was like, burn. But no. So Charles Jaco is the sentient skin tag. Oh. It was the couple of stray hairs on him. And it's he it started reporting for CNN. And he like apparently faked this whole report about being in Iraq or something like that.
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And he was on a set shelled and bombed.
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Yeah. And he acted like he was getting bombed and shows the worst acting I've ever seen in my life. And then later, this was like 13, 14 years ago. He people on the Internet were making fun of him. And he legit threatened to sue the entire Internet. And I was here because when I started on radio, I started at a station in St. Louis and he used to work. It was a cluster. He used to work at one of the other stations there. And the story goes is that he would go take his coffee cup of coffee that he drank and And to warm it up, he would go, he would pour it into the coffee pot, swirl it around and then pour it back into his mug. And he got caught like a couple of different times, according to numerous people that worked. I was only told this. I didn't say this. Other people did. And, uh, that's nasty.
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It's illegal, isn't it?
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I don't know. I mean, this was like back in like the early aughts. So I don't know. I wasn't, I don't know. I think when he was there, it was like the late nineties. I was totally not there at that time. But, uh, Oh, and he was so nasty towards me, but I always felt bad for him because he was, you know, a skin tag. And, you know, I don't know what kind of future they have. So sad.
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But yeah, she reminds me of him. They have the same look in their eyeballs. They have the same work ethic, it appears. And people respond to them the same way. And I've seen all these videos on Miss Ward getting approached by different nationalities, different people, just scolding her over their misrepresentation and reporting.
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Yeah, the guy was like, I'm a civilian. And he was like, my captors have beaten me. And you could just see the look on her face. She was trying to hide it like, this is too good to be true. And as it turned out, then there was a news outlet that published a photo of this guy. He gave her a fake name and everything. He said his name was Adel Gerbal. That dude does not even exist. They found out that he is First Lieutenant Salama Mohammed Salama of the Air Force Intelligence Directorate, literally the agency that runs the prison. He runs the prison. She thought she was getting this poor victim. Instead, she got literally the guy who was running the prison. And what gets me is that they didn't even bother verifying anything. They're like, oh, let's take this man out. Let's take this man and put him in a tent and interview him immediately. Got to have the exclusive. You notice something about him in Slack. What did you say in Slack about him?
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Oh, yeah, that he was perfectly manicured and he wasn't dirty. That jacket looked pretty.
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Yeah, he didn't look like he was starved or nothing either. You know, like a prisoner would want to look like a prisoner would look like. Yeah. So and people were saying that they did not trust her story. And there were apparently even some Syrians there like what CNN, what you doing? What? What? What? This is no, this is not how you do the journalism. Not. And they said it came to your point. They said he was too well groomed and did not act like someone who was locked in a dungeon for three months. And that is per number of people on Verify Sci.
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That's why I have to wonder, because Charles Jaco was with CNN back in the late 80s, early 90s. And so now we have Claire Sir Ward, CNN, all about faking wartime stories around times of tension. Is that intentional by CNN for decades now? That just seems weird.
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It's a good point that you make. I don't know. I'm just saying. But I don't think she's going to get that Pulitzer, though.
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Join us in this enlightening episode as we explore the complexities of drone surveillance over military installations and the intricacies involved in managing such threats. We delve into the legal authorities military commanders hold and the considerations that guide their actions in protecting national security. Alongside this, we discuss the elusive nature of nuclear materials and the logistics challenges faced by departments in charge of their transportation. Through engaging discourse, we unravel the intricacies of these pivotal topics, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of current security dynamics. In addition to our security discussions, we offer professional renovation tips sponsored by Floor & Decor. Discover essential advice for contractors looking to elevate their craftsmanship and deliver projects that exceed customer expectations. Whether through maintaining clear communication or focusing on quality and organization, these insights aim to empower professionals in delivering exceptional renovation results. Don't miss this combination of national security insights and practical renovation advice.
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Military bases have seen these drones fly over them. That's a federal offense. If there ever were justification to shoot a drone down, that would be it. Why hasn't it happened?
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Well, because, look, first of all, Bill, the military commanders at installations have the authorities they need to defend themselves, their people, their interests, and certainly to protect our secrets and our national security. Sometimes the answer is to find a way to down a drone, and sometimes the answer is not. And a lot of it depends on the capability that the base commander has available to him or to her, but they have the authorities that they need. The sense that you have to shoot everything down just when you see it, even if you do believe that there's a malicious intent, doesn't comport with actual reality. So, I mean, it really depends on the situation at hand. But rest assured, commanders have the authorities that they need to take the action that they must to protect their facilities.
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Thank you. Good to see you. Good to see you. Can you comment on the drones that are flying around New Jersey ports?
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It seems like the American people have a big discipline.
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The government knows what is happening. Look, our military knows where they took off from. If it's a garage, they can go right into that garage. They know where it came from and where it went. And for some reason, they don't want to comment.
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On the way here, I was on the phone with my OEM team, and we now have guidance coming from the state. And that guidance does say two different things. First of all, if there is a downed drone in our vicinity, we are immediately to call the bomb squad of our county. And second, our fire department has been instructed to make sure they wear hazmat suits.
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So if something falls out of the sky that people have seen, and some of these things are as big as an SUV, if that happens, you're to treat this more than a plane crash. It's treated like an attack on the homeland.
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That is correct, because they're not quite sure if there's a payload or not.
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So they're saying that what it's like a nuke. It could be like nuclear material that's been lost. And so they're they're out there trying to find it. Is that that seems to be the general gist of it. So then my question is this. God help us. How do you lose nuclear material? I mean, it's at the end of the year. We've all been through hell. Can we just, you know, have someone in the government not be such a dumbass that it makes me want to deconstruct the whole damn entirety of D.C. brick by brick? Are you sure? Jeez. I just, I was reading it because I didn't quite understand how you would be able to find nuclear material. You know, like it's, you know, doesn't light up like light bright, I guess. Maybe it does. I don't know. Well, yeah. And I was looking at some of this, reading some of the explanations for it. And it was kind of interesting. But again, none of it answered my question of, so how, because it's like a, the word is that it was like an entire thing. train car of something right this is like a x-files movie welcome to the show dana lash with you top of the first hour uh make sure you sign up at substack lots of good stuff that happens there i i but to come back to the drone thing because you guys know i've been fascinated by this from the get-go i um i really do wonder because kane what does like um railways and transporting that stuff what what department does that fall under oh
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transportation.
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The Department of Transportation. Thank you. Who is the head of the Department of Transportation? I'm sure he's an illustrious person. Yes, that is. It's a big job, I'm sure.
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Peter Booty Juice.
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Oh, Mr. Peter Booty Juice.
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Yes.
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Yes, yes, yes. Yes, him. Okay. New mom. Is he on maternity leave still?
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No, I think he's recently off maternity leave.
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Now, I want you to... One more question, if you don't mind. I want you to tell me who is it that's in charge or was. I don't think he is anymore. But he was in charge of the nuclear waste materials. He was like a deputy nuclear guy. Had a fondness for ladies' suitcases. Yes.
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Are you talking about Sam?
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Yes. Thank you, sir. Him. So these are the people that we've had running these two entities.
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Sam Brinton or Britton or what was his name?
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I don't know what the hell his name was. He was just like a... He just was a freak. I don't know who... I don't know what his name was. I don't care. He was the freak that stole ladies' luggage and their clothes and all this stuff. So I... These are the people... That our current president has put in charge of these departments. So is it shocking now that I put it like that? Answer yourself. Answer me if you think it's shocking that something like this would happen. See, now I put it in perspective. That makes it all better, doesn't it? No, it doesn't. I know. I know it doesn't. It doesn't make it all better at all. I get you. Completely understand. All right, so welcome to the show. So this is one of the things that we're watching today. The other couple of... I mean, it's just a weird... I mean, everybody's... Look, half of you are already home drunk. You guys are baking. You got a little carried away. You know, maybe you're making some... I had a family member that would make brandy Christmas truffles. Maybe you're doing one of those things and you used a little too much or had a little too much for you. Maybe you're just not at work. Maybe you're at work and it's like the Clark Griswold. It's like the scene of National Lampoon's Family Vacation where he's like the last guy there and all the presents are the same and he's stacking it up on the boss's desk. And you're in that stage. You're in that mood. Maybe it's that. But regardless... It's it's almost Christmas. And so we're all sort of, you know, and this is also to win some of the big stuff. I have to say if something was going to drop, this would be now would be the time to do it. So we've got a number of things. We have more information also about the the shooting that took place yesterday in Wisconsin and. As more, it was a 15 year old girl. I don't like saying their names because the copycat thing is a real, that's a real thing. The copycat killing is a real thing. She apparently this girl was apparently also inspired by Columbine. And this is one of the criticisms I have of the press and a lot of other people that some of the the leftist talking heads, particularly out there, because when they start talking about this stuff, they they it's wall to wall coverage of these. of the names of these killers and you know everybody ends up knowing the names and nobody ends up remembering the victims and it's just it's wall-to-wall coverage and that that kind of i will never understand it but that kind of notoriety is very attractive for these types of killers for these people i i will say i think it is a little odd that it was a 15 year old girl that's that's a little different But everything else isn't odd, especially when you look at how she, you know, apparently offed herself when cops showed up. That's typically the standard is is it's usually not, you know, the cop doesn't the cops don't really necessarily. I mean, what happened in Nashville was kind of rare. It's usually the killer's. will kill themselves. But the fact that you had a chick who wanted to be trans in Nashville or wanted to be a dude and said she was trans or however you put that in Nashville. And then now you have this female here. It is a little, it's odd. It's a little odd that it's a chick, as I said. But, you know, with that, the just, I mean, the stories that are coming out, the more information that's coming out about this. So you have a 15 year old And had a handgun. That was confirmed. It's illegal for a 15-year-old to... I know this is not news to you, but it's illegal for a 15-year-old to get a handgun and run around with a handgun. That's not something that... Just got to say, it's not something that you it's not legal. It's not legal in any state. It's not legal anywhere. The president had issued a statement on it where he called for me to pull this up because I sent out a newsletter about this last night after it happened. He issued a statement. saying that he wants to ban assault weapons. He wants to establish a universal background check. I'm looking at his letter. He wants to also have a limitation on magazine capacity, what he calls high capacity, whatever that means. Now, it's a smart move from a guy who literally just pardoned his son for a whole bunch of crimes, including falsifying information on his 4473 for a gun that was purchased, again, illegally by his son. And then his daughter-in-law slash son's girlfriend disposed of it, tossed it in a trash can, legit across the street from a school. Real smart move from a guy who did that. But I'm curious as to why he's calling for all these things, none of which would have had any impact at all whatsoever. He calls for... He reinstated his call for an assault weapons ban, a stupid made-up word, when it was a handgun that was used. It wasn't a rifle. He established for... He demanded universal background checks, which... You can't have a universal background check unless you have the establishment of a national registry. We've talked about that before. And he assumes that this 15 year old, I guess, walked into a gun store and that an FFL actually sold her a gun. That's the only way that that makes sense. I mean, he calls for stuff that makes zero sense. And I I was asking some people yesterday, well, what would you actually propose without exception? Not even one in the past. Maybe there would be like one or two, but there was not even one. Yesterday, one progressive and some of them were talking heads that I was going back and forth with. Not a single one of them had any proposals. Their only response was that Republicans wanted more death. That was it. They just wanted a name call about guns. They didn't actually want to solve anything. They had no except for ban everything. That was their only solution. As though crime began when the gun was introduced. That's how they act. I mean, that means in the entirety of human history, we've never had any murder. We never had any mass casualty, anything. I mean, that's not true, but that's apparently what these people tell themselves and believe in order to make these stupid arguments. But not a single person had an actual serious proposal. Some of them would just Google Everytown stuff. And act like they weren't copying and pasting, you know, verbatim. The left, and this has been my history and my experience with all of this, the left has never, ever had any kind of actual solution. None. And they do not want to hear you when you talk about yours. Like the big debate over hardening schools. Why is this a debate? I made mention of this in the newsletter last night. Why the hell is this a debate? They have long argued against hardening schools because they claim that having extra security is like a prison. I mean, do stadiums feel like prisons? Do jewelry stores feel like prisons? I mean, all of these places have way more security for their activities and their products that they sell than we have for our kids in schools. And are not our kids infinitely more valuable? Apparently, the left doesn't think that real good security doesn't give itself away either. You know, you may incorporate planes, clothes, plainclothes, officers, double locking doors, etc. And teachers who want to train and carry with permission of parents. But those things are all the last line of defense. All of that stuff is the last line of defense. A door lock, if it comes down to the door lock, then all of the other layers of defense have failed. We're going to talk about that coming up as we move. Going to the bottom of this first hour, our partners who help make it so ready-wise. 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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five.
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TikTok is asking the Supreme Court to block a law that could ban the app. I think it's I do think it's weird that we can't convince people because people are sheep. We can't convince people to stop using TikTok. So we're just going to have the government ban it because we can't. We apparently telling them that you're literally being a prostitute for the CCP. and having your information harvested by them, that's not enough to appeal to people's common sense, good nature, or brain power. So we're having to have the Supreme Court. We're begging them to come and block it because people are stupid and asteroids should come and obliterate this rock. Merry Christmas. That's just dumb to me that we do this. Ban everything. We're going to talk about this coming up. Friendship after 50. Apparently they I don't care about this headline. I don't really care. Moving on. Nobody cares. I don't care. I don't care. Go make friends or don't. Don't bitch about it to me. I don't care.
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Monday for some reason.
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I'm just done. Start putting a startup that puts ammo. Oh, now this one. Ammo vending machines and grocery stores?
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Let's investigate this.
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Yes, please. I need to get it. Hang on. Wait. Everybody hold up. Pause the show. I need to make a note of who this is so I can play into it. Okay. Just anyway, back to the headline. Ammo vending machines and grocery stores. There's a startup that plans to grow this and expand it. It's based in Dallas. Yay! American Rounds rolled its first automated retail ammo. It's in a grocery store, but it's in Pell City, Alabama. Why are you going to Bama? Why can't you come do that here? All kinds of ammo. That actually is amazing. And then, of course, you have people who are like, you have a social responsibility to make it possible, blah, blah, blah. Or no, you don't. Other people do.
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When I was younger, I had a friend that had a soda machine in his garage, and I thought that was the coolest thing ever. I would love an ammo machine in my garage.
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Why? I want one in my garage that someone can just come and they serve it. Service it. I love this. But this idea that companies have a social... No, they don't. Shut up. That's you. That's when people are too lazy. I'm too lazy and stupid to have my own responsibility about society. So I'm going to ask the companies that make products I purchase to do it for me. Shut up. Let's see here. Moving on. Because that's a good one. Species in Chernobyl of fungus is mutating to feed on nuclear radiation. That's actually kind of cool. Maybe we can send that out on the drone since we lost nuclear. I mean, great job, Biden. Great job. You literally have one job. But it's mutating to feed on nuclear radiation. I feel like this is some kid's crazy science experiment in a way, right? And they're trying to say that X has a declining user base. And that's from Mashable, which is the same. It brings you the same journalistic news and literary value as smearing feces on a dive bar bathroom wall. Same thing. We got a lot more coming up. Drone fever and more. Stick with us. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, All Family Pharmacy has you covered. Whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support, or general well-being, All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages. designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. Of course, you know, we were talking just a little bit about the shooting that took place in Wisconsin yesterday and how you have the, uh, have the, um, more information coming out about this. And I was talking about it right before we, you know, went into headlines and went to break about the arguing and the debating over hardening schools. Right. And I don't know why the left is hell bent against it. I don't, I don't get it. I don't understand why they're so against it. I, I've made mention of this so many times before and, In that to double locking doors, to have teachers who want to carry plainclothes officers. The left thinks that they keep saying that it's like a prison. And I feel like they've never been into a prison if they think that good security is like a prison. They go to stadiums to watch sports. They go to concert venues. They'll go to jewelry stores. I mean, hell, probably even Starbucks has more. Who knows security? Who knows? But it just seems like every other place, they don't have a problem with it. It doesn't feel like a prison. And that's what you're talking about, more of that type of security. Good security isn't always noticeable. But the problem is this. That's just the last line of defense. If the safety of your child is depending upon the last thing, the last gatekeeper, whether or not that door is locked, there are a lot of other layers that have failed. That's the reality of it. And the first line of defense are the parents. I'm going to tell you something. I am not going to be blamed or have my rights up for forfeit because some parents out there were garbage. Not going to happen. They raise monsters the likes of against which we have to arm ourselves to protect ourselves and our families. So no, that's not a good justification to deprive someone of a God-given right. Oh, you got some deadbeat parents that raised a monster. No. It turned out the teenage girl was 15 years old. And had this handgun, which 15-year-olds can't go out and buy handguns. And I know the investigation, they're going to look more into it. I've seen reports that said, well, the dad gave it to her, all this stuff. I want to see more things confirmed by law enforcement before we go down that route. But the bottom line is that if you have a 15-year-old under your roof who's obsessed with Columbine and is obsessed with violence and death and is on a downward doom spiral and you don't notice it, you should be chemically castrated so that you don't procreate and plague the earth with your spawn because you're too stupid to raise children. That's God's honest truth. Every single one of these killers, especially if they were teenagers, there are warning signs that you don't need a destruction of due process in the form of silly red flag. You don't need that in order to act. Just because some people are unfamiliar with the vast number of legal options that exist to them to have someone adjudicated, unfit or declared a prohibited possessor in a court of law doesn't mean that those options don't exist. That's what the left wants you to think. The left are morons. They have no idea about gun law because they're ignorant of it. They think it doesn't exist. They have no familiarity with object permanence. They're like babies. They think that when you play peekaboo, you disappear. They're shocked. But this 15-year-old, apparently, there was this manifest going around. It's a manifesto. And apparently she was a big feminist and saying like the manifesto that was shared said, quote, women are the only hope for this wretched world. But even women have been brainwashed by my gosh, I can't even read it out loud because it makes me feel like I've drunk the worst alcohol ever. And it already gives me a hangover headache. I can't even get through it. It's so bad. She just she talks. She says the phrase Radfim Hitler. That helps. She has horrible grammar. If she just, you know, had spent more time maybe on her grammar instead of her murder fetish. Here's my my question because she's like big time into big time feminist and all this stuff. And she uses racial slurs in it as well. I'm not going to say what they are, but she uses racial slurs. You know, she's a racist leftist. I mean, you know, this is it's a day that ends in Y. Why? I was reading this. And I was because some of the pictures are floating out there. I was reading this manifesto thinking of the photos. And I thought. You stupid broad. Why can't you just read Sylvia Plath like every other dumb, brain-dead feminist out there? Why can't you just read Margaret Atwood? You don't have to go shoot up a school. You know what? Here's what you do. Go to Hot Topic and have daddy buy you some overpriced Junko jeans, right? Get you a chain that you attach your wallet that has nothing in it to, okay? Put on eyeliner badly. Use manic panic in your hair and pick up a copy of Sylvia Plath, The Gateway for Stupid Feminists, and pretend that it's mind-breaking or groundbreaking or that depression is angsty and edgy. Get into that. Get into Margaret Atwood and wear a red cape and act like you're suppressed in a country that actually gives the matriarchy more rights than they give men. Go ahead and do all of that and pat yourself on the back for being just the prototypical moron. Instead, she went and shot up a school. So, I don't, a 15-year-old that's able to do that, this is one of the things that parents, like bad parents, I guess they just allowed for her to get like this. How is that my fault? How is that your fault? You know, we had some of these lawmakers out here run in their mouths. Audio, somebody 12. Gwen Moore, she's saying all this stuff needs to be studied. Listen.
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And my thought is that we don't have a lot of information. And that's why it's really important for us to support efforts that people have made consistently to have the CDC and other private foundations really try to study what the cause of this violence is. We already know. that there are too many guns. You know, a lot of people say it's the mental health or it's video games. We don't know. Yeah, we do. We do.
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We absolutely do. You walking mental abortion. We know. We know exactly what it is. Some people, we just don't know. Last week, all you leftists were celebrating the public gunning down of a health care CEO. On CNN, on MSNBC, Washington Post reporters, they thought it was great. It fulfilled one of their narratives about CEOs and big bad insurance companies. He got gunned down in the middle of the street in front of a Hilton, no less, in Manhattan. Right there. I mean, it's just blocks away from their Christmas tree. He got murked in broad, you know, well, early morning light, but broad daylight. They actually had no problem with a gun then. Because it was somebody they didn't like, somebody they couldn't use. So they were all right about it. You think that kids aren't watching that when they're watching their adults in their lives or on TV that their parents are watching celebrate the gunning down of this guy because they just didn't like him fulfilling the stupid progressive narrative. And then they want to turn around literally the next week and then act like guns are bad because a 15 year old illegally acquired one. What? Pick a lane. This is so asinine. What Gwen Moore is talking about here is a law she's unaware of. It's called the Dickey Amendment. It was passed in the 90s because people wanted to do something to make themselves feel better. They said that we need to be able to study the causes of gun violence. Like, you know, you the brain trust that's in D.C. decided that they needed to eat taxpayer dollars to figure out why gangbangers are gangbanging. They just don't know why people are selling the drugs. And they wanted to act like there was a separate. like the school shootings or something like that, which are rare and are the exception, which is why they're not the universal rule, whereas drug and gang violence actually are the rule when it comes to homicides and mass casualty incidents and driving crime, etc. They wanted to study why this was. They needed to study it. The Dickey Amendment was drafted and passed to state that, sure, you can study You can study factors like mental health. You can study all this stuff. But what you can't do is use taxpayer dollars to either advocate for or advocate against firearms and firearm ownership. That has never been good enough for the left because the sole purpose they had of wanting to study this wasn't because they actually care about saving lives. These people don't care about saving lives. They made a business out Out of walking women into a meat grinder called Planned Parenthood, churning the baby out, making sausage for their executives. They made a whole thing of it. They launder money through it. They donate to Democrats through it. So let's stop pretending that these jackasses care about life. OK, let's stop. They don't. But when it's convenient for them, they do. But they didn't like this stipulation within the Dickey Amendment. That's been law since the 90s. You can't use taxpayer dollars to advocate for or against firearm ownership. Well, that's what they wanted to do. That's all they've ever wanted to do. They don't mourn for life loss. They mourn for opportunity loss. The moment... The moment the news of a tragedy hits the televisions, newspapers, social media, they're already thinking of ways that they can maximize this to their advantage. They were doing this after Parkland. I don't know if you guys knew this, but they had it was the Knickerbocker firm that's in D.C. Anita Dunn works there. They were down there in Parkland right after this happened. They had their high-powered Democrat PR people. Who do you think put March for Lives together? It was their people. It was Anita Dunn. It was all those people. There are photos of it all over the place. And I talked to the parents, some of them who lost their precious children in Parkland, and they were treated pretty scornfully when they couldn't be pressured into joining the anti-gun movement there in Parkland. And she was there. All that firm was there. They were all there. This isn't about saving lives. It's about how can they use this to get something that they want from their agenda. And the way that they write about this, oh, there's no, you're not allowed to study any kind of firearm prevention, you know, anything. As long as you don't politicize it, but the left can't help themselves. They got to politicize it. None of this. And what is it going to solve? You know what the biggest problem is? The policies they support. The fact that you've got a family, families, middle class families in the United States cannot live on one income anymore. You have to sacrifice. You have to struggle. Used to not be like that. But the government needed to spend everybody's money. Right. We had to go fight forever wars. We had to go nation build. We had to hand out entitlements like it was Halloween candy to every Tom, Dick and Harry that rolled through the Rio, the southern border. Oh, we had to fund a whole bunch of stuff that was completely unrelated to the federal government's original purpose. We had to make it economically impossible for families to operate in the best manner for families to operate. We had to make college super expensive while simultaneously shaming people for not going and getting four-year degrees. And then shaming them if they went to the wrong kind of college. We had to do all that. We had to start shaming women into thinking that they were just dumb bimbos who are nothing more than sex dolls that breathe for the frat progressive bros that ruin frat culture. The progressive bros out there who want to be able to have one night stands and not be responsible for any life created. And the women go right along with it while acting like it's some form of empowerment. One of the greatest tricks perpetuated upon women since the snake told Eve to eat the apple. Or was it their own free will? We have men who are browbeaten by the matriarchy so that now nobody wants to get married. Nobody wants to create more hell spawn to cover this godforsaken rock. And then Democrats are like, well, gosh, how did we get here? I guess we should ban guns. Hell, how about we ban you? That's the problem. It's just going to we're going to keep having these problems and having these tragedies because you have half the country that's not serious. I would actually say half of that half of the country, if I'm being honest. I think there are some Democrats who don't know where the hell else to go. They don't they can't really identify as Republican because Republican means a whole bunch of stuff now. They know that they're not conservative, even though that's really about conserving individual liberty. But, you know, whatever. But they know that they're not really Democrat. They don't know where else to go, so they're kind of stuck in the middle. Whose house did they go to for Christmas? Wherever it doesn't play. Maybe it's cold outside, maybe. Our partners over at Burn a Gun, the non-firearm firearm. And it's always good to diversify your self-defense arsenal because, you know, I would love to. I carry all the time and I have zero problem using lethal force. You come at me, UFA, UFO. 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Are we ever going to get rid of her? They don't really like her. They don't like her out in California. They don't really like her federal. They don't like her. You can't stop trying to make fetch happen. Stop it, Gretchen. I just. Why do we keep? Are we just never going to get rid of her? She's going to run in California. Kamala Harris considering a potential run for California governor. You know, I got to tell you, I feel like that would be blocked. Because nobody likes everybody's got grievances. They're mad because she wasted so much money. I have to tell you, too, part of that is Democrats wasting a lot of money. They made her the fall guy for it. They wouldn't get Biden out and they shoved her in there. I'm not defending her, but I'm just saying, you know, keep in perspective. We got a second hour coming up. Don't miss our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. Patriot Mobile exists online. And because they they offer the best service and it's affordable for plans for any size business, any size family. They can tailor make them to what your budget requires. And they have exceptional nationwide coverage in all three major networks for their every Friday Matters special. You can get a brand new smartphone when you make. the switch and it's super easy to do 100 us-based customer service team they're going to get you all switched up you can keep your current number if you want to get a new one but you'll get that free smartphone as part of their special every friday matters offer but to take advantage of it you got to use promo code friday and you need to do it while they still have inventory because it's a limited time offer or until supplies run out seamless switching and you're supporting the things that you vote to protect So it's a free smartphone, offers eligible only with promo code Friday, limited time or until supplies run out, terms and conditions apply. That's patriotmobile.com slash Dana 972 Patriot.
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Of course. I mean, just swamp's going to swamp, right? 1,400 pages, still haven't seen the text. Multiple subject matters. Important health care legislation. in the context of extenders piled on the back of a three-month CR with about $110 billion unpaid for, $25 billion in health care policy, half of which is fake pay for, being sold that it's paid for because they're gimmicks and shuffling around the decks. Things like E15, which we didn't even have a full debate on. This is not the way to do business, right? And so, you know... We'd do something different. Since we've been given the majority again, we're adding $330 billion in literally totally unpaid for additional deficit spending just since November 5th.
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Yeah, they want to spend more. I don't know why the speaker is allowing for like a budget. Just pass the CR and get on with it. Oh, but hey, remember the guy who's not in Congress anymore wanted a big old fight at the most inopportune time over speaker when no one else was prepared to step up. So we got an equal rhino with even less seniority as speaker. Great job. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the second hour. And I'm saying that's not the best way to start off. Johnson needs just and he needs to stop getting cover from party leaders. That would be great, guys. Thanks. Including POTUS elect. Stop it. Don't give this guy cover. The reason that he's compromising and not just kicking over a CR, a continuing resolution for this budget stuff, is because he keeps getting justification not to do so whenever he's given cover by people who outrank him in the GOP. That's an issue. We can't be doing that. I'm not... Man, I'm done with it. I don't want more of the same. People are tired of more than the same. Honestly, a lot of Republican stuff isn't that much different from Democrats. Oh, it makes people mad when I say that. The people who have a grift to cover get mad when I say that. But it's God's honest truth. I mean, are we going to walk away from deportations? Are we going to slow at building the wall? We never got Obamacare overturned, despite every single damn Republican that sits in a seat in D.C. campaigning on it. So what do we get for our money? We get to pretend that we're actually more aligned with the Constitution than Democrats. OK, so again, welcome. You can obviously you're what you know, you're listening to the program either across the country or you're watching a 347. The chats at Rumble, if you're on it, if you're unaware, of course, over at Substack as well. Yeah, I'm aggravated over this because I'm tired of paying taxes to cover the backside of a government that can't stop spending. This story, this stuff enrages me. It absolutely enrages me. So I don't know why it is we keep doing it. This is not what we voted for. So I really think And I've I think I had like a this was part of one of the newsletters that went out for headlines. I just don't know why Johnson has got got to get with it a little bit here. They've got to cut spending. Why would you have right before you're about to see your party take over the White House and the Senate and the House and you're going to green light, the passage of an omnibus. And then we're all going to act like, oh yeah, we're really serious about spending. It's a mess. It's going to be a mess. Just do the CR and then wait. Until we have the numbers in the House and in the Senate, and then maybe we can cut a little bit. But I don't think Republicans want the austerity that comes with cutting. They're too dependent upon that government cash. They got all their special projects. They don't want to lose any of that. They don't want to lose it. A few other things I want to touch on as well, and we'll keep an eye on that. All of that stuff. I didn't get to this, but well, there's a couple of things. We're going to talk about Canada and apparently what's going on with the governor of Canada. Right, Kane? You know the governor of Canada. Yeah. Yeah. He seems like he's not bad. The governor of Canada. He's horrible. He's a little Castro. Yeah. America's hat. We're going to talk about the drama that's happening with them and calls for Trudeau to step down, which is pretty serious. Then we're going to and we'll continue following this CR fight. Yeah. Fifteen hundred page. So wait, they're supposed to vote on this tomorrow. And as of last night at eight o'clock, they did not have the bill yet. Wow. Just let it expire. Let the government shut down. They're terrified of having a government shutdown. I love government shutdowns. You think they're going to shut it down, Cain?
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I hope they do. We're getting a whole new Congress here in a month. I don't know what they're doing.
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Being stupid. Yeah, that's exactly what they're doing. They are being absolutely idiotic. Completely idiotic. But that's that's them. The Elon Musk apparently was meeting with Nigel Farage and other leaders in the UK. He met them at Mar-a-Lago and there's rumors that he gave them or there's rumors of a 100 million dollar donation going around. Farage is a is a member of parliament and he's a leader of Reform UK. And he was also at the head of the Brexit. He's a conservative over there. So he's been an MP, leader of Reform UK. And there's discussion as to what Musk can do to partner maybe with the more conservative members of British government to push back and save British culture or the British, you know, Britain period, similar to what Musk contributed here in the U.S., That might be fun. That might be fun to watch. It also gives him a lot of power. But it might be fun to watch. Although our Brits, I don't know, are Brits ready to kind of push back against the... woke scolds and the crushing wave of completely unmitigated, you know, meant much of it illegal immigration into their country. I mean, even Germany is saying enough. Austria is even saying enough. A lot of these European nations are saying enough. We don't have the resources. Their crime is because they can't vet anybody who's coming in. It's all military age men. Enough is enough. Will it? I don't know. Because I do think that the makeup of of and and sentiment and attitudes in the uk are very different from what they are in america like we live and breathe this type of stuff like other people talk about revolution we we actually we succeeded and we weren't like france and in which we failed and then we had a dictator followed by a restoration of the monarchy we didn't do any of that uh it's stuck for now but i it's they're very different sentiment and sentiments and attitude I would be interested to see if they were able to do the same over there. It's something definitely to watch. I wanted to also touch on, because we were talking about drones. We've been discussing drones. There was a couple of stories that I didn't get to, including, and I'm going to push this one. We're talking about the Wisconsin shooting and the way that Democrats are trying to seize upon it also. And So they're not going to do anything right now, but they are saber rattling. And I think that they are using a lot of the discussion surrounding the abundant life school shooting as a way to kind of regroup their side. This is one of the things I've been watching. I really do think that they're using it as a regrouping mechanism. They're trying to get everybody back on the same page because everyone was so all over the place and fighting with each other over DEI and immigration. And I think they're just happy to have. I know it sounds sick, but I think they're happy to have something around which they can rally and regroup. So they're back to gun control. That's their safe space. They always go back to gun control. They don't have any solutions, but, you know, they've they're. That's it. Speaking of this yesterday, I don't know if I want to play this whole cut, but the police chief at the time, they wouldn't release the age or gender of the killer. Why was that? Why were they hesitant to mention the gender of the killer? Because it's a girl and she's not trans. Did they think she was? I was wondering about that. Did they think that she was trans and that's why they didn't want to release it? I don't know. It's I don't know. That's just that's it was weird that they didn't. And it just fueled conspiracy theories. Why would you not release it? It doesn't make any sense. I think the police chief, well, the Madison, Wisconsin police chief, of course, is pretty left. A couple of other things here. The headline I saw was apparently it was a second grader who called 911. Now, when that headline hit, I saw a lot of the gun control activists saying, this is how sad society is. A second grader had to call 911. My first thought was that school had nothing in place. So a second grader had to call 911. That was my first thought. A second grader, they had no warning system. You have to realize we live in a sick world. society where wayward behavior is rewarded criminality is protected the boundary between right and wrong is being blurred away and in this type of environment because we have always had firearms we've always had guns in this country firearm ownership private ownership unfettered by the government predates this republic We've always had people who built guns. We've always had people that have had guns. They predate this republic. But a relatively new phenomenon are these mass casualty incidents, specifically ones that target schools. And I go back to what I was just saying about our society. It's a trash garbage society. So in a trash garbage society, you have to realize that trash garbage societies create trash garbage people who are going to do trash garbage things like target schools. And that's exactly what we saw in this situation. I do think it's interesting how a lot of the news of it has gone away, Kane, or am I overthinking it?
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No, I was actually commenting to Juan about that this morning. I noticed when we were getting set up for the show that it's like, wow, where was this?
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Is it because she's 15, a girl?
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Yeah, that's what I think.
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So we had in Nashville, it was trans Tifa. So this is femme Tifa. That's why you have to. Why schools must be protected. Because everybody wants to target schools. We have a lot more to get into, including the... We've got stuff with Doge. We've got some soundbites as well. Especially about this ABC stuff. And I have two tales of really ridiculous media, ABC and CNN. And the CNN story, I cannot get over. This chick, I didn't know she was like some Z-list actress. She thought that she was legit saving a prisoner in Syria, and they made a big deal about it. And as it turns out, she was like apparently springing one of Assad's torturers or something like that. Like, I don't like the rebels. I don't like Assad either. I don't have to like anybody. Neither do you. But I think it was funny that she thought that she was freeing some sort of like innocent dove. Black Rifle Coffee has a new roast, their Freedom Roast. It's what the founders would have drank, would have drunk, would have drank. They would have drank it totally had Black Rifle Coffee been around then. Veteran owned company. They employ veterans active duty. And their Freedom Roast, so smooth and full of flavor. And you can save 20% using code Dana. And while you're there, subscribe to the Black Rifle Coffee Club. You get free shipping, automated orders right to your doorstep of your favorite brew. So you never have to ever go out of a morning all like stressed out and caffeine free because you ran out of coffee. You never have to do that. Always convenient. And you don't have to just get the Freedom Roast. You can also check out the Silencer Smooth, the Just Black. They have many, many, many different types of roasts. And if you're good on, you know, your coffee, which they have whole bean cake cups and ready to drink, ground as well, then you can get apparel, kettles, grinders, mugs, and more. Perfect Christmas present also helps everything, you to get everything you need for the perfect brew. So the Freedom Roast, Black Rifle Coffee, taste the other top shelf roasts as well. Whatever you decide, though, you get 20% off. with Code Dana. 20% off using Code Dana at blackriflecoffee.com.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So Argentina is making some good moves on firearms. This is interesting. So one of the things that they're doing is lowering the minimum age for authorization to carry firearms to 18. And they adopted that measure. And I think what it goes into effect pretty soon, because in the United States, it's, you know, 21 to carry it unless it's, you know, 18. the uh you know shotgun hunting rifle something like that uh but uh interesting and he's been javier malay has been just absolutely deregulating the argentinian government at a rate of speed that has never before been seen and they're getting in a lot of government revenue after doing that i hope that republicans pay attention to that not just give it lip service uh also the Some concerned shoppers are stockpiling goods because everything is stupid. Stop listening to the media on this stuff. So apparently people are stockpiling what canned foods and some things like that, dog food and paper towels. And there I get that you're I mean, having a prepper's pantry, that's not that's not a bad thing. I wouldn't even describe that as stockpiling. I would just say that that's like preparation. But I do think that certain... I have noticed like there's like a run on certain canned goods and it's because people are... Stop it. Just stop it. Don't listen to the media fear-mongering on this stuff. Let's see. Some people are wanting to swap turkey for takeout. A poll suggests that Americans are rejecting tradition and... It's not an anti-Christian thing. I think it's just people are busy and they're tired. 2,000 adults were surveyed. 31% of them apparently want to see more unusual alternatives. I don't know. I like the turkey. I usually do red meat on Christmas. I like turkey on Thanksgiving. I like that kind of stuff. I don't care. I eat cardboard for all I care. I really don't care. Cain says to not. I don't care. He cares. I don't. Just saying, you know, do whatever you want to do. And, you know, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I know people who have tamales on Christmas Eve. They do tamales every Christmas Eve. That's a big thing. Do whatever you want to do. It's all American. All right. We got a lot more on the way, including let's we got to talk about some grifters and we got to talk about CR. Stick with us.
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Look, as we hold our loved ones close this holiday season, We as a nation must renew our commitment to end the horror of gun violence, both mass shootings and everyday gun violence that touches so many communities in our nation. We must end it, and we must be committed to have the courage to know that solutions are in hand. But we need elected leaders to have the courage to step up.
SPEAKER 16 :
And do what? Do what? Kamala Harris, a day late and a dollar short, as always, decides to go out and speak about. What, try to try to push gun control after Wisconsin? I it's not shocking, but again, it's just a bunch of ridiculousness. Like why? Why are we for for what law do they propose that would have prevented any of this? they're all trying to rally and get back to the same square, and they're using this as the means to do so. Again, these were also the same people that did cheer the CEO's execution last week by a firearm. But hey, that was okay then. That was all right then. Welcome back. Dana Lash here with you, bottom of this second hour. I saw that, and that's brand new from her. Brand new from her. She thinks that She says that she's using this to call for more of the same that has not ever worked. I just get I get tired of it. People sit here and they've been proposing like a number of different things. Well, you know, we need to have safe storage. Who's going to enforce safe storage? Are you going to send agents to the homes of every single innocent firearm owning American in the United States? The same left that was just decrying the idea of deportation because they couldn't understand possibly how every single person who entered illegally could be found and sent back to their country of origin. So the safe storage stuff. So you want an agent of state. First off, what they're doing is they're making the argument for the left for a national registry, because in order to do checks, you're already pushing to incorporate firearm owners as federal firearms licensees. And that's what Joe Biden has proposed. He wants to make just basic gun ownership to where you have to have an FFL. Now, it doesn't matter if you're in retail, doesn't matter if you're selling anything like that. If you have an FFL just for regular firearm owners. So people who are pushing safe storage for not a single damn one of the states, including California and New York, who already have quote unquote storage laws, it's not had any kind of impact, by the way, on their homicide rate. Absolutely none. That's number one. Number two, you're inviting agents of state into your home to check and see whether or not they think that you've stored your firearms adequately. So they're going to know exactly what you have and they're going to treat you like an FFL. And I'm assuming it would be the ATF, right, Kane? The same ATF that had its own security staff pilfer tons of guns from its inventory, right? I don't know if you guys knew this. This is a pretty big story. The ATF had their own employees steal all their guns that they had in their inventory. Some of it was ATF on firearms. Some of it was confiscated, etc. And they had their security personnel, their employees, stealing from them, taking from them. And then they lost a bunch. They don't even know how. So that entity, the entity that ran guns in Mexico, according to the Fast and Furious op, that entity would be the one in charge of coming into your home and checking how you store your firearms. That's what that means. That's how you have to do safe storage. So the people out there talking about it, By the way, if they go in to your home to check safe storage and they see something else maybe that they don't like, who's to say that they're not going to pop you for that? Just saying. I mean, go ahead and open those doors if you think that that's what you want to do. Unbelievable. No, people can freely move to China if they want. I want to talk about a couple other different things here, including this thing. Can we just pause for a minute? I don't know about you. I watch. I like Taylor Sheridan. I think Landman's a little a little blue in terms of humor. Billy Bob Thornton's spectacular in that series, though. full disclosure they actually we met uh the scout uh the locations for landman because they were they they thought about using our house as a set at one point they didn't but how that would have actually been kind of cool uh they didn't do it but they they thought about it and i thought that might be kind of neat like only if it's like billy bob thornton's house because that would be It's fascinating to stand in the corner and watch a scene actually work. I have no desire to be in it at all. I just like to see how the sausage is made. So anyway, we started watching Landman and we've been watching Mayor King's Town. I like all his stuff. Yellowstone, the latest episode, the latest last season of Yellowstone wrapped up and I thought it was actually done really well. Anyone who watches it, they pick up real quick. Sheridan doesn't come out and say he's a hardcore righty, but you can pretty much tell that from the dialogue that he has. The dialogue where he talks about oil and gas and he talks about gun ownership and land and all this other stuff and bashes big government one side and off down the other in every single episode. And it's very refreshing and it's not done in a manner that is forced or... cringy. I always hate when people make a film or make a song with the desire to be political first. And then the art is the secondary consideration. I hate that stuff. And nobody's more guilty of it than people on the right. God love you, but you are. People on the left, they're a little, they've had practice with it. You know, they're used to slipping stuff in their storylines. We don't do that because we're, you know, we're not liars. So, you know, anyway, so I was I was I saw this on social media last night and some of these accounts I don't follow and I don't have anything to do with because I just don't subscribe to any of it. But I saw some dude who I guess is a conservative influencer was out there and I watched the last season of Yellowstone. I don't know who says stuff like this. He posted one of the final scenes of Yellowstone was the native Indian tribe children taking over the ranch and knocking over the gravestones of Dutton ancestors while laughing. That's how Taylor Sheridan sent off the Dutton family. Are you paying attention yet? And Kevin Sorbo, Christian Kevin Sorbo, even responded to it, saying that's incredibly disappointing. Nobody watched the episode. I watched the damn episode. And what happened was you had teenagers who were in after. And I don't care about spoiler alerts. I'm not here to do that and gatekeep for you. But in that episode, there were like three or four Native American teenagers that were knocking over the Dutton's headstones. And the elders came in there. Moe the Elder came in there and blasted them and said, how dare you? And he just I mean, he just about beat him to death. He was screaming at them. He was like, how dare you do this? He was like, they fought. and died to defend this land. And the whole episode was how they both realized the Native Americans and the Dunn family, they all realized that they had been on the same side the entire time. They didn't want to have corporations come in and overdevelop the land and kill all the wildlife and be horrible stewards of all this stuff. And I would play this for you, but we can't play it because we'll get kicked off of YouTube. It would be a strike against us. So I can't share with you the clip of it because YouTube will literally take our account off air, even though it's newsworthy. But that's the way it is in fair use. But OK. But he like blasted them for doing this. And then he very carefully and arduously pulled back every single headstone. And in the end, the head of the tribe, you know, was standing there and he had a tear down his face because he was thinking he finally realized these two men had begun as their relationship started in the series as mortal enemies. And then they realized we are actually on the same side. And they ended up selling the ranch to the Native American tribe for like, you know, a dollar, whatever, from how they purchased it back in like 1823. And I had said in the very beginning of the season, I'm like, I wonder if they're going to fulfill what they said in the first installment of this story. In 1823, they had said, well, in seven generations, you can have it back. That's what Tim McGraw's character had told. one of the elders of the tribe. And seven generations later, here it is. And it was a pretty amazing thing. They ended up both wanting to protect that land and not have it overdeveloped. None of the kids wanted it. John Dutton's kids in the series did not want the ranch. So they honored their promise to their father by not having the land overdeveloped. And they also got out from underneath the ranch. So I don't know why someone's lying about something as stupid as this. Like, I don't understand people who go out and charlatan like this. And that's exactly what it is. And double down on it. Because when this was brought up, this dude had said, oh, well, that was the trajectory. No, it wasn't. Well, they ended up losing the ranch because, as I just said, neither kid wanted it. So they ended up... It actually was the complete opposite of what was being claimed in that post on X. The absolute opposite. So... This, I mean, it's, I don't know why people make up this stuff. I thought it was a great scene. I thought it was a scene where those kids were told they were educated. And then in the very end, they were very, they're agreed upon. They dismantled the house and they promised to never develop the land. They took care of the cemetery. They promised all that stuff and they were fulfilling it. That's how Taylor Sheridan sent off the Dutton family. So I don't understand why someone's trying to manufacture a complaint and lie about a final scene that other people have seen. I really, really hope that's the case. And I don't understand, too. There was a there's a community note on it that I think that they were trying to get to go away. But I just you got to be careful with some of this stuff. There are people on the right who. Who I didn't see before 2016 that didn't really have like any sort of record of measures where you could tell where they were politically or in terms of genuineness. But there are people on the right who will purposely mislead you and try to bait you into a manufactured division. Right. And it's easy to do, has been easy to do lately because everybody's, you know, you kind of had to pick a side in this huge cultural battle and this political battle. But now that we're through that, I think that be very discerning. Because there are snakes among you. Absolutely. And there are grifters among you. And you just need to be careful with stuff. And I hope that the people, especially the Christians and the mentions of that thread, I hope that they take back some of their words and honor their faith and be a little bit more transparent and a little bit more honest with stuff. Because it's disappointing to see. And it makes people disillusioned about every political side, not just the left.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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This is the most of the stories I'm starting off like that. So a guy, a Florida guy nicknamed Shroom decided to settle a $150 debt by going to an apartment in to get to, I guess, to collect $150. And they call the guy the victim, I guess, the victim who supposedly owed him money. He was just there playing video games. The three dudes, including Shroom, was among them, busted down his door. They roughed him up. The victim got pistol whipped. And then the victim recognized one of the masked men. And that was his old buddy Shroom, who's Lazaro Gonzalez Gonzalez. I don't know why he has two of the same name, but he does. Well, I don't get that. He kind of looks like a shroom, I guess. And yes, the victim did owe $150. But Instead of working out a payment plan, he declared that the three men destroyed $150 of his own property. So they decided that that was even. But Shroom did go to jail for assault. That's just one of the... I'm trying to get over his name. That's the biggest offense in this piece. Florida man lost a drone to an alligator after flying it too close to the water. We need to get some of these gators up in Jersey. Drone operators... I never heard of that, of where a gator got it. But this and this story, by the way, that's written by a website called Motor Biscuit. They don't know how to write stories because they bury the lead four graphs down. But a guy in Florida obviously flew his drone way too close to a gator. He was trying to get a good shot of it. And I guess he didn't realize that gators can actually propel themselves up out of the water with their tails. And that's exactly what happened. The gator just like jumped up like a great white shark would jump up. He jumped up out of the water and grabbed the drone and then went into a death roll. So that guy's not going to get his drone back. Kane, I don't think that guy's I think that's a loss. Yeah, that's that's not that ain't never coming back. It's never, ever coming back. Let's see this guy. stole a Rolls Royce and crashed it into a checkers. Now I had to stop here because I haven't heard of that place in a long time. That's the hamburger place, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The rallies and the checkers. Because didn't checkers buy rallies or something like that? Okay. It was a Rolls Royce SUV and it was stolen from a valet at a Fort Lauderdale hotel and they crashed it into a checkers at 2.15 a.m. A Rolls Royce. I don't even know. It's an SUV. I mean, maybe he was like super hungry. By the way, the restaurant where he crashed it was barely six miles away from the hotel. Mm hmm. And the punishment in Florida for grand theft auto is actually based on the value of the property stolen. And the top tier is any vehicle over $100,000. And this is even more than that. So this guy is looking to face up to 30 years in jail for grand theft. Taking a six, barely six mile joyride, stealing a Rolls Royce SUV and crashing it into a checkers. So I don't know the guy who, by the way, the Rolls Royce owner, he told CBS News Miami that he was sleeping and they valet went and knocked on his door or the hotel did. And they said it was stolen from the valet. So, yeah, it wasn't found at the checkers. It was found inside the checkers because he reined it. Ran it in there. Let's see. This guy. I'm not reading that. This because it's gross. I'm not doing that. Can we just not with the stories about everybody exposing themselves? What is up with that? Is it just because it's humid down there? I don't know. A Florida man was arrested during a treehouse robbery. Yeah, I don't know. And there's crack cocaine involved. Florida authorities arrested a guy because police said he stabbed a man to death during a robbery in a tree house. It stemmed from a crack deal. Of course it did. Monroe County Sheriff's deputies say the victim, 59-year-old Matthew Bonnet, was trying to help a neighbor who was being robbed by two masked men. The female victim lived in a treehouse in the trailer park. So she didn't have a trailer in the trailer park. She had a treehouse in the trailer park. And I guess they climbed up there and the deal went sideways and they stabbed her. The guy's being held in Monroe County Jail. Well, there you go. Third hour next, guys. Stick with us. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you at the top of this third hour. It's already Tuesday. Tomorrow's Wednesday. We're almost to Christmas Eve week. It's pretty amazing. You can listen across the country. We also have the chat at Rumble. And don't forget to sign up over at Substack. Lots of good stuff up there. So where to even start? I'm going to pull. What's going on with America's hat? I know. The Canadian government is just losing it. But now I was reading something about The challenger, like some of the people who are challenging the governor or the president, the head, just call him the governor of the state of Canada, Justin Trudeau, little Castro. People, they're trying to pressure him into resigning. I mean, he should. And he's trying to save his spot. He's fighting back against it. But I did think it was kind of interesting. He's been for 11 years now the head of their liberal party. And that's quite a long time. They could elect a new leader. Whether or not they're going to do that, I guess that's where we'll see. One of his challengers is Jagmeet Singh. He's one of the guys who's called on Trudeau to resign, demand that he step down. Apparently, he wants an election in March because he wants to lock in his pension before the election in March. I don't know. Politicians are going to politician. But there's I think we have the audio of this where he was being yelled at by people. He is not a audio somebody 19. He is not. This is live television. He is not a popular person. Listen.
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Prime Minister, are you going to remain in office?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, what gives you the right to continue? What gives you the right to stay in office? You failed Canada. You've ruined our country.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're done. Walk away.
SPEAKER 10 :
You don't have an ounce of your father's integrity. At least he walked in the snow. You've ruined this country. Everyone around you is running from you. They're abandoning you. They've all left you. It's time for you to go. It's time for Canada to have an election. You're not the king.
SPEAKER 16 :
Dang. I mean... that is something else that's pretty amazing they're not they don't like him he um was really i thought like when he was first elected he was pretty celebrated and everybody you know the canadians seemed to like him but now they hate him they don't like him at all anymore i think there's probably i mean obviously a good reason for that but their their government is uh i think he's gonna get run out i think that the tide is turning i think it's turning i think he's Cain, say on air what you just said.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was like, imagine what it takes to make polite Canadians into these mad, rabid people. Imagine what that takes. Yeah. It's exactly what Trudeau's done.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, I think, because aren't they pretty much like, hey, sorry to offend, eh? Maple syrup, maple leaves, yay. I don't know. The finance minister resigned. That was his top lieutenant. He's out. I don't know. I can't imagine him staying on. I just can't imagine him staying on in this position. I don't. Because he's... Well, Pierre Polivere, who I love, he's this guy who, do you guys remember Pierre Polivere? He follows me on X. He was the guy who was eating an apple when a reporter was asking him questions. And he, in the most lackadaisical manner possible, just gutted this guy. But he says that Trudeau has to resign. Listen.
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Mr. Trudeau is being held in office by one man, Jagmeet Singh. A fifth of Liberal MPs have written a letter for him to resign. His Deputy Prime Minister has walked out on him. His Housing Minister has quit. That on top of numerous other female ministers who stormed out after his appalling mistreatment and abuse and dishonesty towards them. 80% of Canadians have lost confidence in this prime minister. So why is Jagmeet Singh making the entire country wait for him to get his pension? That is the question.
SPEAKER 16 :
He wants his pension. March election. So he can lock in his pension. That's why. Well, we'll watch and see what happens with the governor of Canada there. We'll watch and see. San Francisco. Has a new government position. Did you hear about this? No. Yeah. It is a consultant. I'm not going to play this whole video because it's stupid. Well, maybe I will, actually. This person is supposed to be the, checks notes, weight stigma czar. What? Mm-hmm. Now, Cain. Yeah? I want you to tell me. if the person whose image I just placed in Slack is qualified to be the Chex Notes weight stigma czar?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, she'd... No. I almost went on a tangent there, but no. Juan's going to be putting up a quick little video of her in action.
SPEAKER 16 :
What is weight neutrality?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think that's in space, right? You're weightless.
SPEAKER 16 :
We'll play this when he gets it. It's that ridiculous. She's working with a team at the San Francisco Department of Public Health, it says here, as a consultant on weight stigma and weight neutrality. What is weight neutrality? What is that? Is that a thing?
SPEAKER 09 :
When someone's neutral... Does it have a flag? I guess if you're just neutral about the idea of weight or extra weight, I... Your guess is as good as mine, but Juan's ready if you're ready.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, please. Let's hear this. I'm sorry.
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Hi, my name is Virgie Tovar, and I'm the author of You Have the Right to Remain Fat, as well as a few other books on fat positivity and body acceptance. When I think about what people might be surprised by or what you wouldn't think of when you think of eating disorders, I immediately think of being a kid. I was a kid in a larger body, a teen in a larger body, and also an adult in a larger body. And the message I always got from my doctor was, shrink your body by any means necessary. And it really felt like there was a sense of a don't ask, don't tell. So because I truly, truly, truly believed. And this is where I think the surprise comes in. I really believed that this was about my health. I really believed that my doctor was right. Because why would I believe anything?
SPEAKER 13 :
That's real.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's real. Your doctor was right. And it's not... Let's not do fat positivity. I don't believe in fat shaming people unless, you know, the calls for it. But people pointing out that your obesity is a comorbidity is a health issue. That's not people trying to be mean. And I think people need to stop being victims. Stop being a victim. I mean, come on. Seriously. It's... I... really don't understand this idea. Was this a backlash to the heroin chic of the 90s? Is that what we're living with still?
SPEAKER 09 :
What I don't get is imagine any other health concern, whether it's diabetes or whether it's just anything health-wise. Would you encourage people to continue behavior that would exasperate or make that health problem worse? Would you do that? Would you affirm them? Knowing that it would make their problem worse. Why would you do that?
SPEAKER 16 :
This, when she says, you know, I have a right to, you know, you have a right to be fat or whatever. You don't. And here's why. After you don't absolutely blink and do not. And here's why. Absolutely. After Obamacare passed and we all had to pay higher insurance premiums to pay for people who didn't or couldn't want to pay, oh, I get to have a say in all of that. So you don't get any rights because you invited my tax dollars in. And where my tax dollars go, I follow with a boot in the door. That's what happens. No, I get to be involved in it. Yeah, you don't.
SPEAKER 09 :
My body, my choice.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, no. It's not my choice to pay your damn bills. So it's not your body to make a choice of. No. If my money goes to it, I'm the boss of you. I will make I will go and knock that zinger right the hell out your hand. I'll put a carrot in its place. OK. Oh, you want to have a little you want to have a little Debbie's fudge round? Eat some cucumber or broccoli. Stop it. I have a right too. I have a right to go where my tax dollars go. And if you're sucking up more of my tax dollars because you can't get a handle on your weight, then that's a problem for me. I shouldn't have to subsidize that. No one thought of that when they were pushing for the expansion of Obamacare and jacking up everybody's premiums so that we would have to pay for everyone else's care. So no. And everyone's like, oh, Dana. Look, I work really hard. To stay in shape and I eat healthy and I do intermittent fasting. I do all of that stuff. I've always worked out. I've always been athletic. I've always maintained. And it's not because a privilege just decided to, you know, a fairy godmother apparated out of the ether and was like, I'm going to make you like this forever. It's you actually it's an effort. And I don't want to hear about anyone else's problems or excuses. I don't care. Make the effort. And don't expect me to pay your medical bills because that's the situation we're all in. And as a result, no one can say that they have a right to be this or that. Since you wanted, you asked for this. We warned you. Don't say that we didn't warn you because we did. But back to my first question. What the hell is weight neutrality? What is that? Like I'm trying to imagine. So, you know, we have a lot of truckers that listen. God love them. Is that like when do they do that for the weight on your truck? You know, like if you go in and you're a weigh station and like, oh, you're weight neutral to a truck and they're low. Do they say that?
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm pretty positive. No.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm just fascinated by I've never I'm today years old. I've never heard of that phrase. The whole weight neutrality thing. Right now, I will say this. I do think that some chicks can go way too far the other way. Like I always bring up Madonna as an example. She at some point as you age, my grandmother always said at one point in her life, a woman has to choose between her face or her body. Now, I've already told you guys, maybe I haven't been public about it, what my goal is. Because everyone always thinks I've never had plastic surgery or anything like that for the love. But I do have a plan to combat wrinkles when it starts setting in. I mean, I got a little bit here and there. But I got a plan. You want to know my plan? I'm going to get fat. It's natural filler. I'm just going to... Because I choose face. That's it. I choose face. Because you can't hide ugly. That's why.
SPEAKER 09 :
Do you have the right to be fat then at that point?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I'm going to do it in like a healthy way. I'm not going to be like morbidly obese. That's totally my plan. All right. My grandmother was like, and she said the age is different. What she told me was this. She was like, at some point in her life, a woman has to choose between face or body. And I'm like, well, she's like, you won't know until you get there. And then she looked at me and she was like, I chose face. She was like, that's why she was like very proud. She's like, that's why I chose face. That's why I don't have hardly no wrinkles. That's what she would say. And I get it. So that's my that's my I'm kind of joking, but not really. That's my whole goal. But not like morbidly obese. Just, you know. I'm just saying. It's all natural. But there's a difference. You don't want to be like visceral and tawny like Madonna, right? I don't want to see like your... Your ligaments and stuff like I don't you a woman should look like beef jerky. You know what I mean? Like you're supposed to be soft. I don't don't don't be brainwashed by these, you know, fourth wave fembots into thinking that you can't have any fat on your body. Women need it. And especially as you get older, you know, you're you need that fat. extra especially if you get older because you know it helps you when you're an older age so anyway i still don't understand what weight neutral is i'm gonna hear from every trucker who listens to us i am gonna get treaties on it that's what's gonna happen like big essays on it i can't wait and now all of the news you would probably miss it's time for dana's quick five I don't even know what the, this is nuts. So this story, apparently it can't be Christmas here until the city shoots lasers at 20,000 crows. Mm-hmm. I don't know. It's over at MSN. So apparently, and by the way, whoever David Andretta is, he's a horrible journalist who should be fired because he doesn't know how to write a proper balanced story. I shouldn't have to get three quarters of the way through before I know what the hell you're talking about because you decide to talk about the birds. But anyway, it was an outbreak of West Nile virus. And I guess they're trying to do like vermin control. So it's in... a couple of different cities that they're having to deal with. This story is so stupid. Let's see here. We got a couple others. Firefighter dressed as Santa battled two-alarm blaze in Delaware County. That's pretty cool. And, well, we're running out of time. We got to get moving. Stick with us. I went long last segment. Apologies. Back in a moment.
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SPEAKER 04 :
with my OEM team. On the way here, I was on the phone with my OEM team, and we now have guidance coming from the state. And that guidance does say two different things. First of all, if there is a downed drone in our vicinity, we are immediately to call the bomb squad of our county. And second, our fire department has been instructed to make sure they wear hazmat suits.
SPEAKER 19 :
So if something falls out of the sky that people have seen, and some of these things are as big as an SUV, if that happens, you're to treat this More than a plane crash. It's treated like an attack on the homeland?
SPEAKER 04 :
That is correct, because they're not quite sure if there's a payload or not.
SPEAKER 16 :
So it sounds like it's the nuke stuff. That was one of the theories that was going around. And then apparently it's trying to find radioactive material. I mean, everything so far that's being said kind of makes sense. sense with that. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you, bottom of this third hour. I'm looking at this Newsweek piece that dives into it a little bit more and that gets into the whole mysterious, you know, the drone fever. They said at first they thought it could maybe be a potential gas leak. Now they're thinking that maybe it's like radioactive material. And all of these aerospace and, you know, people who are experts basically in these industries, they've all said that they don't think it's nefarious, but they think that the only reason that they're flying that low is because they're basically trying to suss out something on the ground, like gas leaks, pockets of radiation. They're looking for something very important. And I just, if that's the case, what is the... harm in telling the public that? Or do you think it's bad if they tell the public, oh, by the way, we lost some radioactive stuff. We got to have these drones out there to suss it out at night. Be careful. Right? Do you think the public would go nuts if... They were told that there was like some lost nuclear or whatever radioactive material out there?
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, they're kind of being told that now. They're saying that that's part of the speculation.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's everybody else's speculation that the government's not putting to bed.
SPEAKER 09 :
But that's all it was, remember, on Sunday and yesterday when we talked about this on the show. And you're like, oh, that's just one guy saying that now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, now... Now it's a lot of guys saying that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you know what I mean? So it does evolve, eventually evolve. So I'm not really certain how crazy this will evolve.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm just curious if... They lost it. Who took it? I mean, how did they lose it? Or was it stolen? And if it was stolen, what for? I got a lot of questions. Although, then you have that one lawmaker, Van Drew, who came out and said, no, it's the Iranian mothership. Which, you know, also kind of sounds like it could make sense. None of them, none of them confirm my favorite theory, though. Kane.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know what it is.
SPEAKER 16 :
Alien. Just saying. Just saying. They said that, I don't even, I looked at the Project Bluebeam thing where global elites plan to stage a fake alien invasion. That seems like a Rube Goldberg kind of operation to, I don't put a lot of, I don't know. When my government tells me to do something, I don't want to do it. And when they tell me to believe something, I don't want to believe it. I am so anti-authority that I can barely follow push down and turn directions. Because I'm like, are you trying to be the boss of me? I argue with everything in my life. Are you trying to be the boss of me, bottle? I'm so anti-authority. So bad. It's a problem, Kane. It's a real issue.
SPEAKER 09 :
Childproof caps. Huh? Anti-childproof caps.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, like push down and turn. How dare you tell me what to do, bottle? I'll do what I want. I'll open you how I want. But you know what I mean. So I don't know. I mean, I kind of wish they would stage a fake alien invasion. Give us something to do. I'm bored to tears all this, like, the same goofy Froot Loops in D.C. Yes?
SPEAKER 09 :
I was talking to Juan this morning, and you know how it is every year. We do this every year. We get to December. We're getting into the holiday season. And then what does the government do with the news cycle? They start dumping all the bad stuff during the time of the year that most people aren't paying attention to the news. So, yeah, I believe that there's going to be some sort of something. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wait, no, you're not joking.
SPEAKER 09 :
No. I think there will be. Now, whether or not these are going to be real aliens, whether or not it won't be some sort of Project Blue beamy type thing.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't even care.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't even know.
SPEAKER 16 :
If you guys don't know what the Project Blue Beam conspiracy theory is, which I didn't know until I dove into this, that's basically like all the superpowers of the world. They want to fake. It's like the new QAnon. They want to fake aliens. an alien invasion so they can seize power. I mean, what other power are they going to seize? I mean, everybody kind of folded over COVID and showed you how susceptible, you know. Did people learn from that? I don't know. I don't know. Because I feel like they already did that. They already did it. Just in a way. All right. I got a few other things we got to hit as well. We've got... I'm pulling up some things here. Oh, this is this story about I mentioned the CNN thing earlier. I almost couldn't believe this when I saw it. I don't know who this Clarissa Ward is. People keep saying that she's an actress and I wasn't familiar with her. She's like decided to she's a British actress. person with CNN, I guess she was, I don't know, she started at Fox. And I don't know why they say that she's like this, like an actress or something. But she's, I don't know, she's very dramatic, as you will, if you've watched any of this footage when she's gone and saved saved this dude. So they had this segment on CNN. where Clarissa Ward was over there in Syria and she's reporting on the collapse of the Assad regime and all this stuff. And she saves, they save this, save this guy who is apparently, and it was all staged. They acted like they were rescuing him from a prison. And as it turns out, He was actually an intelligence officer in the Assad regime. And I guess he was acting like he was a prisoner. And he was acting like he had been kept prisoner. And he's really putting on this big show of being freed. And it turns out he was not only an intelligence officer with the Assad regime, but he also was one of his main torturers. Yeah. The main torturers. One of the big guys that Assad used. And they brought him out. And he's like hugging. He hugged Clarissa Ward. And he acts like he's so relieved. Like I can't believe it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Like this poor innocent man that we've saved. We saved him from the presence. And he was just kept against his will.
SPEAKER 16 :
And he was one of the baddies. I mean, they're all baddies at this point, but he was one of the legit baddies over there. So now CNN had to admit, this was a headline that they had, quote, freed prisoner who said he was a victim of the Assad regime was an intelligence officer, locals say. He was actually a literal lieutenant in the Air Force Intelligence Directorate. Oh! Oh, they helped free this guy. He's known for harassment and extortion and all kinds of stuff, all kinds of stuff. You know, CNN, the guy who literally looked at this Syrian interrogator. This baddie. And they thought he was an innocent torture victim. He's leaning on her. Oh, my gosh. He's like, I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I can't believe I can barely walk. Someone get him a chair. This poor man. CNN has a member of the Assad regime that they are state. And here's the other thing. They take the guy out of the prison cell. What does she do? They sit him down and they immediately go into an interview. They weren't even, even if he wasn't a torturer, they were not concerned about getting him to a hospital or anything like that. She's like, oh no, I've got to sit you down and I have to interview you for my program. Let's do that now. And then he acts like he's shaking and he can't eat. He was jailing people. He was torturing people. He's one of the baddies. He's one of the baddie baddies. And he acts like he's, I just, I'm just yet but a simple man. I just can't. I'm just so sad. I can't believe you freed me, CNN, you bastion of reporting, the giant of international journalism. Can you imagine being her and then waking up after you think you've done like a Pulitzer level story? And this happens because, you know, that's what she was thinking. She was just like, I watched this. I watched that whole thing. She's like, let's get you sit. I mean, she was just. But at the same time, it barely masked her glee at being able to have a story like this. You know, oh, let's get you for an interview. They pull the guy right out of a cell. They're like, OK, let's sit you down in a chair. Now it's time for an interview. I mean, at least she was thinking business first, I guess. You know, that's what CNN likes.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I mean, this may not be a popular opinion, but to me, she's like the female Charles Jaco.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, don't. He's going to sue the Internet again, Kane.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good luck, Charles.
SPEAKER 16 :
Do you guys know who Charles Jaco is? He is a sentient skin tag who has some hair on it. And he came from St.
SPEAKER 09 :
Louis. What you said is worse than what I said.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I mean that you said that I was like burned. But no, I. So Charles Jaco is the sentient. He's a he's a sentient skin tag. It was the couple of stray hairs on him. And it started reporting for CNN. And he apparently faked this whole report about being in Iraq or something like that.
SPEAKER 09 :
And he was on a set. Shelled and bombed.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And he acted like he was getting bombed and shelled. It was the worst acting I've ever seen in my life. And then later, this was like 13, 14 years ago, people on the internet were making fun of him. And he legit threatened to sue the entire internet. Right. And I was here because when I started on radio, I started at a station in St. Louis and he used to work. It was a cluster. He used to work at one of the other stations there. And the story goes is that he would go take his coffee cup of coffee that he drank and And to warm it up, he would go, he would pour it into the coffee pot, swirl it around and then pour it back into his mug. And he got caught like a couple of different times, according to numerous people that worked. I was only told this. I didn't say this. Other people did. And, uh, that's nasty.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's illegal, isn't it?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't know. I mean, this was like back in like the early aughts. So I don't know. I wasn't, I don't know. I think when he was there, it was like the late nineties. I was totally not there at that time. But, uh, Oh, and he was so nasty towards me, but I always felt bad for him because he was, you know, a skin tag. And, you know, I don't know what kind of future they have. So sad.
SPEAKER 09 :
But yeah, she reminds me of him. They have the same look in their eyeballs. They have the same work ethic, it appears. And people respond to them the same way. And I've seen all these videos on Miss Ward getting approached by different nationalities, different people, just scolding her over their misrepresentation and reporting.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, the guy was like, I'm a civilian. And he was like, my captors have beaten me. And you could just see the look on her face. She was trying to hide it like, this is too good to be true. And as it turned out, then there was a news outlet that published a photo of this guy. He gave her a fake name and everything. He said his name was Adel Gerbal. That dude does not even exist. They found out that he is First Lieutenant Salama Mohammed Salama of the Air Force Intelligence Directorate, literally the agency that runs the prison. He runs the prison. She thought she was getting this poor victim. Instead, she got literally the guy who was running the prison. And what gets me is that they didn't even bother verifying anything. They're like, oh, let's take this man out of let's take this man and put him in a chair and interview him immediately. Got to have the exclusive. You notice something about him in Slack. What did you say in Slack? About him?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah, that he was perfectly manicured and he wasn't dirty. That jacket looked pretty all right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, he didn't look like he was starved or nothing either. That room?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, like what a prisoner would want to look, what a prisoner would look like. Yeah. So, and people were saying that they did not trust her story. And there were apparently even some Syrians there, like, CNN, what you doing? What? This is, no, this is not how you do the journalism. No. And they said it came to your point. They said he was too well groomed and did not act like someone who was locked in a dungeon for three months. And that is per number of people on Verify Sci.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's why I have to wonder because Charles Jaco was with CNN back in the late 80s, early 90s. And so now we have Claire Sir Ward, CNN, all about faking wartime stories around times of tension. Is that intentional by CNN for decades now? That just seems weird.
SPEAKER 16 :
it's a good point that you make. I don't know. I'm just saying, but I don't think she's going to get that Pulitzer though. No, I don't think she, cause it's too bad. It's too bad. I mean, it is really embarrassing. It's just really not great for her.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
I was reading this debrief from Kamala Harris's deputy campaign manager. I think it was Semaphore that had it. And they said that Rob Flaherty had after she became the nominee, he turned his attention to sports. They needed to introduce Harris quickly to people who aren't obsessed with politics. And they said sports is perhaps America's last remaining monoculture. And they decided to book her on all these sports shows and podcasts. But everybody began turning her down like everyone. They were very polite, but they all turned her down. And they said sports and culture have sort of merged together and they've become sort of natively associated with a Trump conservative set values. And it said it complicated. It got more complicated for athletes to come out in favor of us, he said. He goes, because they didn't want to do politics. I don't think that's fascinating in terms of the guy, Flaherty said it was fascinating that they were rejecting it. No, it's not. They were being smart about it. I mean, you're a pretty bad deputy campaign manager if you can't read the tea leaves on that one. Good heavens. All right, Cain, today in stupidity.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, it is our current vice president. Is she doing anything now that she lost the election? I mean, she's still vice president, right?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is Kamala Harris. Maybe you can understand what she's saying here. Let's hear this.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I ask you to remember. Yeah. The context in which you exist.
SPEAKER 09 :
Alright.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I did that.
SPEAKER 09 :
What?
SPEAKER 17 :
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think she's drank every day since November 5th.
SPEAKER 16 :
Mm-hmm. I don't think that she's already drunk on eggnog. I mean, most of you all wait till Christmas Eve, but she's already there.
SPEAKER 09 :
She won't be sober till 2020.
SPEAKER 16 :
Venn diagram. I don't know. That does it for us today, folks. Make sure you sign up over at Substack Chapter. And first, YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. Back with you tomorrow.
We are also joined by Tim Gageline as he discusses his new book, 'Stumbling Toward Utopia.' Gageline provides insight into the social and moral shifts that began in the 1960s and how we can steer America back towards its foundational ideals. Additionally, learn about our renewed focus on the Department of Government Efficiency, shedding light on fiscal conservatism, and a bold vision for America's governance. Don’t miss the conversation about life, the potential impact on Planned Parenthood's funding, and the innovative future of pro-life advocacy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Today on Sekulow, a New York judge denies immunity for President Trump.
SPEAKER 02 :
Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, here we go. How long can we keep these cases moving against President Trump so that they can still go into the news and say, well, there's pending charges and Judge Mershon did not buy, I guess, what, the Supreme Court's argument that the president was immune from the people who went in and testified because of executive privilege there's all these issues involved this case that might be the one that actually takes it down is that so much of the evidence was derived by evidence that the supreme court said is not proper or you'd have to at least litigate through each individual's person on whether or not but what they shared would be covered by executive privilege. But in general, in general, what the Supreme court found is that you assume it is. So it's something that the government, the prosecutors would have to prove, uh, with a pretty high bar that it isn't a protected presidential communication. But will the important part here on this case is not that judge Rashan has, uh, I think, uh, left no room for him to dismiss this case. He still has one more opportunity to do that before more appeals begin. But at the same time, this was a way for him to say, you know what, I'm bound by the U.S. Supreme Court. You guys tried to do this with these federal charges. There's immunity questions. There's privilege questions. This doesn't work anymore.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And this decision was expected early November, around November 12th. However, Judge Mershon postponed releasing this decision on how the Supreme Court's immunity decision would affect his sentencing in the case.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's why there's no sentencing yet because there's more cases to come. From Mershon, there's more.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. There's more chances to dismiss it. However, he postponed releasing this immunity ruling. which he'd been working on, they'd been briefing on since the Supreme Court released their decision on it. He postponed it from November 12th to now, it came out yesterday, last night, December 16th. And it's a little odd to me that he did push that back with this outcome and he goes through in his conclusion he goes through the exhibits that were in question and and says that many people many of them that weren't uh he said he just categorically said these communications i don't think were immune because i don't think they were official acts so he's making judgments there but then he also says lastly this court concludes that if error occurred regarding the introduction of challenged evidence, so evidence that would have been covered by the immunity ruling from the Supreme Court, such error was harmless in light of the overwhelming evidence of guilt. This was evidence that was introduced that were communications once President Trump was in the White House, that under that broad interpretation of you start with the assumption it is covered by this immunity ruling and work back from there. Right. And the fact that he found nothing as is covered with this immunity ruling, I feel like opens the door for an appeal if it even gets there. But an appeal just based off of his judgment of completely shutting down what came out of that Supreme Court ruling in this state lower court judge. saying that, no, I don't have to throw this out based off that. Now, we know that the briefing and Alvin Bragg gave kind of the two to three options of keeping this alive in the motion to dismiss now that President Trump will be entering the White House. So we still don't have that ruling, but we'll have Harry Hutchison on next to get more into the details on this immunity ruling in the next segment.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I want to take your calls on this too. 1-800-684-3110. This idea of how long can we keep former President Trump in court and can they try to do it while he becomes President Trump? And you've got those issues there about tolling and trying to say, well, let's add a year. That's come out of the... James and all these others and say, well, we can add time to it because eventually he's not going to be president and then we can bring these charges. I mean, so they have actually changed laws in the state of New York just to be able to prosecute President Trump. They added extensions to the separation of powers. Taking your calls at 1-800-684-3110. This is why we need strong attorney generals like Pam Bondi, strong FBI directors like Kash Patel. Be right back on Secular. Welcome back to Secular. We are going to take your calls on this. And look, I know it can sound complicated when we walk through these issues. Here's what's not complicated. I want to make this clear to everybody. We are in the final two weeks of our Faith and Freedom year-end drive. The ACLJ takes on literally, you know this if you're a a supporter of the ACLJ if you've been listening to this show for a long time but if you're new to us if maybe just you know turned on through the election season or this last year you may not realize how large really our legal component which is the driving component of what the ACLJ is all about not just this broadcast The biggest component of what we do is in court and in the judiciary system, both at the federal and state level. And we've been doing it that way since 1989. But, of course, we've also increased our government affairs team presence there in Washington, D.C. and offices around the world. But when it comes right down to it, I just wanted to give you kind of a summary. of 2024 and listen there could be more of these coming between now and the end of the year but this is where we are right now we take told you about the hundreds of cases so let's break it down a little just in this past year we've handled 142 religious liberty matters this year alone that's just in 2024 142 religious liberty matters just think about that for a second that's 142 clients cases Briefs, and really on top of many of those briefs, you're talking about five, six, up to nine. So demand letters fighting back and at no charge to our clients because of our donors. So we can take on more cases. We can also broaden out the cases that we can take. I mean, they have to fit what we do, what our expertise is at the ACLJ. But you can add more and more and more complicated cases that you know are going to initially drain some real resources from the ACLJ if our donors are with us. And so we really need your support because this month alone determines kind of how we start the year and our budgeting. So, you know, how much do we we never going to turn a case down, by the way, because we think it's too expensive. We're never going to do that. But it's in a much better position to say we're never going to turn a case down because of cost, because we always have the ability not only to handle the cost. We know our donors will step up for us if we need it, and they'll even step up if we need to bring in outside firms. uh to to really swarm and and win these huge important cases not just for our generation or your generation but for your kids kids kids and your grandkids that these issues will always sometimes be challenged but we've won so big on these issues that now it's usually comes down to much you know smaller issues and that's great but then every once in a while especially during this woke movement we're starting to see an uptick in the more traditional style. I'd say 1980s, 90s, probably 70s or 80s style of cases pop back up again because of how the librarians are fighting back and not wanting to put things on poster boards. Sending FBI agents to Catholic people's houses because they happen to be at a pro-life rally and they've got SWAT teams there. The idea, again, that being pro-life, is likely means that you're part of some kind of right-wing terror group, all those things. We know we've got a lot more fight to go, but here's more numbers. So you've got the 142 religious liberty, how about 175 pro-life legal matters, 197 free speech matters, we talked about the 142 religious liberty matters, 126 legal actions battling the deep state, those FOIAs that initially are, we hope that they will produce documents but usually after months of negotiation we have to file in federal court and then of course there's lots of cases that don't necessarily fit into those categories as well and there's hundreds of those. So these next two weeks are the most critical of our year in drive. We've been saying it, but I hope those numbers together there for you really underscore the amount of legal work the ACLJ is doing just in the United States of America, just. With all the other distractions going on this past year, presidential race and the primaries and all of that, that the ACLJ in the main categories why we exist domestically has done hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of cases that have huge consequences. consequences. I want to go to Harry Hutchinson because another case that will be setting us up to file more in is coming as we said out of New York in this they call you know the hush money case this is another one of those cases where Alvin Bragg was trying to bootstrap a FEC federal election law issue to a state law issue Harry and even though he had no jurisdiction to be filing or be charging Donald Trump with federal crimes so there's a lot of issues with the case then President Trump gets elected again and suddenly there's even bigger issues so it's not just the supreme court's ruling now you have to deal with the fact that he's about to be in office and yet still this judge at least this week unwilling to give it up
SPEAKER 05 :
I think that's correct. And one of the things that's apparent, I think, to most observers is the lawfare against Donald Trump has actually helped him politically. But if we focus on Judge Mershon's decision in this case so far, he has ruled that Trump does not have presidential immunity for his campaign finance conviction. So essentially, we have a state action brought to vindicate campaign finance law, which is a federal offense. And so what Judge Marchand has done at this particular point in time is he has ignored the Supreme Court's presidential immunity decision, which holds that presidents have immunity for official acts while president. So to be clear, Judge Marchand's decision rejected one of several avenues available to him that would enable Trump to dismiss his guilty verdict on 34 counts of falsifying business records. the judge did not explicitly rule on Trump's motion to dismiss on grounds that Trump has now been elected president. So I think if we focus solely on Judge Marchand's decision, we have a situation in which we have an outstanding Supreme Court decision on immunity and Judge Marchand basically saying if evidence was introduced concerning Donald Trump's official acts, First, such evidence was harmless error, but secondly, Judge Marchand has concluded that no such evidence was indeed introduced. So in some respects, Judge Marchand is A, not clear, and B, he's contradicting himself.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and Professor Hutchison, you have to look at this and think, one, these things have been drug out so long at this point. That's why a little bit it's surprising that Judge Mershon took his time, delayed releasing this, and still came up with these conclusions. But you have to think it sets up the president for an appeal, having these rulings across the board that nothing was covered under immunity on such really a subjective thought exercise, if you will. It really begs the question if Judge Mershon even was concerned about his legacy as a jurist on the court there. that he would have taken the easy off-ramp instead of setting it up for multiple layers of appeal that could be brought against this ruling.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think you're right, except Judge Mershon, along with many people in Manhattan, is stubbornly committed to the Trump derangement syndrome. So I think at the end of the day, he could not persuade himself to basically take the easy off ramp, if you will, Instead, he is stubbornly insisting that this case move forward. Now, there are several additional moves that the Trump lawyers have made, which will enable at least the judge to take an easier off-ramp. But right now, my guess is he is prepared to stubbornly insist that Trump face potential punishment after, for instance, he serves his term as president. So keep in mind, Judge Marchand is considering a motion from Manhattan District Attorney Bragg involving a controversial novel idea from Alabama, the so-called abatement by death approach, which would maintain the conviction as if Trump had died. So there are many routes for Judge Marchand to exercise, if you will, his stubbornness.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, at some point, I think that though, Harry, just briefly, the stubbornness comes to a close, right? He's running out of options to keep this case up.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think that is true, but I think one of the things that we should keep in mind is that he may still basically try to hold the hammer over Trump's head until Trump leaves office.
SPEAKER 04 :
We're going to be on it, folks. If we need to file there again, yet again, as these go on appeal, we will. Support the work of the ACLJ, as you said, as we talk through. these cases 175 pro-life legal matters just this year 197 free speech matters just this year 142 religious liberty matters just this year 126 legal actions battling the deep state and then the cases that just don't hundreds that don't fit into those exact categories you know why we were able to do all those cases because of your financial support of the ACLJ. And I'd like to be doing even more, even bigger, even more complicated. We can only do that with your financial support. Double the impact your donation today. We need that support. So please, whatever donation you can make, make it today. You see the facts, you hear the numbers, you know we win. Welcome back to Secular. Remember, second half hour coming up. We'll take your phone calls too on all these matters. Maybe even some of the UFOs. 1-800-684-3010. Did you guys talk about that yesterday?
SPEAKER 03 :
We didn't. We haven't gotten to that yet. We were waiting for you.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think we do have to get to some of that just to... again get well what what we do and don't know but we know that there's democrats starting to say enough is enough we got governors saying let's pass laws to say we can shoot things out of the sky let's make sure they're not airplanes first or how do we determine what the one that is an airplane versus one that is a drone there's a lot of issues there uh but at the same time it does feel like the the truth is being hidden from us because at this point um They acknowledge just some of this activity and what people are seeing is just way too big to be said. These are not things you go buy at your local Walmart that your kids can play with or do a flyover of a house for a real estate thing that you're kind of used to seeing drones. And they use them in sporting events and things like that. Those are small. We know drones can look like airplanes. I mean, they take off like airplanes, especially when you're talking about those that carry deadly payloads. So we'll get to some of that, too, at 1-800-684-3110. I wanted to bring in a very good friend of ours, basically since we started kind of dipping our feet into not just Washington, D.C. and the legal system, but into the political world and the executive branch. And that is Tim Gageline. And Tim, we love having you on the show. I'm so glad you reached out to us. Just a little bit about you, too, for people. You were the special assistant to President George W. Bush and a deputy director of the White House Office of Public Liaison. You were the president's principal outreach contact. So you can understand how Tim got to know us very well for conservative and faith-based groups. He also helped me, folks, kick off my political career in campaign politics, which is something, again, that led me to work on, you know, not just one, but I think it was four total presidential campaigns. So Tim, I will always appreciate you for that. You've got a new book out now. You're currently the Vice President of External and Government Relations for Focus on the Family. And your new book, Stumbling Toward Utopia, How the 1960s Turned into a National Nightmare and How We Can Revive the American Dream. So my first question for you is this. Tell everybody about your book and this stumbling towards utopia idea.
SPEAKER 01 :
You bet. I travel a lot, Jordan, and thanks for having me on for Focus on the Family. Although I live and work in Washington, I travel about a third of the time. I debate. I'm on panels. I do remarks, speeches, whether it's a left-wing audience, right-wing audience, non-ideological People say, Jordan, how in the world did we get into this mess? And in the era that we're in, people don't have to give much more information because we all know what we're speaking about. And after hearing this for three straight years, I decided to write Stumbling Toward Utopia. which is a history of the radical, moral, and social revolution of the 1960s. And Stumbling Toward Utopia, eminently readable, is about how the 60s came about. The revolution in law and legal, the revolution in politics, the revolution in popular entertainment, the revolution in education, the sexual and moral revolution. All of this imposed upon our country, Jordan, by a relatively small circle of progressive social engineers. And we are all these years later, here we are in 2024, living with the social engineering that the people who foisted this upon us, that we're all living with. And Stumbling Toward Utopia, single book that explains not only how we got into this mess, but if I may say, how to get out of this mess. And I think that all of us who care about and love this beloved country are together on not arguing the past, understanding the past, but saying, what is the way forward? And I think that's why people will really enjoy Stumbling Toward Utopia.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, we've seen what's happened in other Western parts of the world where they don't integrate new immigrants into society very well and to kind of prioritize, hey, you are first a citizen of this country and then whether it's a faith, whether it's this idea that you're not going to be in conflict with a new country, this idea of taking over and changing the morals. And also the woke world that honestly any of us with young kids are very concerned about because... you have no idea what these teachers are teaching in classes. And occasionally when the ACLJ is contacted about it, it's jaw dropping Tim. I mean, it really is. It's not even something that you would imagine would be done with people who are, you know, 14 and 15 years old. I mean, they can't go buy an R rated ticket, but they can, go through an r-rated monologue or x-rated monologue in front of their entire class so you know it has its roots in the 60s so then all these professors now at college campuses they were kind of trained in this when they were students and I think that's where we got to this woke movement you agree like it's basically they were building it up through the universities and it's also why I think the democrat party is and the left is in a mess because there's the left and And then there's the radical left. And the radical left is where the younger people who are left are because they were taught by these radicals who have become more and more mainstream.
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely. A fellow conservative, Jordan, recently wrote that those who foist Wokistan are like hyenas. He said they hunt in packs. And that is so true. The overtaking of higher education, the overtaking of high school, middle school, elementary elementary and all government and public schools. It's a very big part of the story of stumbling toward utopia. But ironically, Jordan, and I'm an inveterate optimist, I mean, I believe that the best days for America are ahead of us. Ironically, the way forward out of this mess is in part through the schools. We now have record numbers of people who are running for school boards, working to design curriculums that put the American experience at the center, the U.S. Constitution at the center, the history of religious liberty at the center. So it's a very important thing that we focus like a laser beam on the rising generation of young Americans, and we need to go tell a new generation. And what I seek to do in Stumbling Toward Utopia is to provide a roadmap of how people who share our worldview want to move forward, want to move forward toward American restoration, American renewal, American regeneration. Stumbling Toward Utopia tells the story of how we got into the mess, but it also says, here's how we can get out of it. And I think it's very important that we all realize that the American dream is a real thing and it's possible and likely for our children and grandchildren.
SPEAKER 03 :
And if you want to get the book, Stumbling Towards Utopia, how the 1960s turned into a national nightmare and how we can revive the American dream, you can get that at faithfultext.com. You've heard kind of the roots of the problem now. And if you're interested in that roadmap, go check that out at faithfultext.com or anywhere you get your books.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tim, I just want to say a big thank you to you for joining us. Keep us updated about the book. I encourage everyone out there to go to faithfultext.com. Tim, that's the best place people can go. The book is up now, but that's the place people should go to order the book, faithfultext.com.
SPEAKER 01 :
Faithfultext.com, Amazon, wherever you love to get books. I mentioned Faithful Text because there are people who share our worldview, but it's available widely. And I hope people will read and enjoy it, Jordan.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And they're going to learn a lot. Tim, I appreciate you joining us and working with us on the time. And I know I'm going to grab a copy of that book because you see the protesters there and you say, is that a picture from the 1960s? No. Those are photos that are happening now again with communists being celebrated and terrorists being celebrated in the streets of America. So we have to get ourselves educated. And what you'll do in this book, we don't want to give away, is learn how to defeat it. So get the book so you learn how. Tim, it's always great to have you. FaithfulText.com. Search Tim Gageline, and you've got to grab this book. We'll be right back on Sekulow. Support that work with ACLJ. ACLJ.org. Donate today.
SPEAKER 02 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, folks, welcome back to Sekulow. Let's get to the phones. 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. And remember, we don't talk about a lot of books on the air, and that's because we really like to know the people who are writing the books before we encourage you to spend time, one, purchasing the book and then taking their advice. But Tim Gagelin, certainly he's been in this battle before. for, especially in Washington, D.C., at the executive branch level and throughout legislators, you heard him, he's on the road most of the time, brought a lot of us into electoral politics by saying, you know, there is this role for us and carved that out to the point where, as you see, evangelical influence on the Republican Party still at an all-time high with President Trump and his incoming administration, because it's such a key voting bloc. Tim was part of kind of that movement beginning and doubling down on it in the George W. Bush years when he knew that they were coming up against a tough midterm, second term election, reelection. And I remember Tim is the one who really helped me with others uh land a spot on that team uh that to on the bush cheney re-elect team uh which i had already worked on some campaigns for people with people like uh chairman ralph reed when he was the chair of the georgia republican party so there was a lot again people there but When Tim writes a book like this, he's a very serious guy, and I think the fact that he's got a solution in there is the reason why you should definitely check it out. Will, let's go to the phones at 1-800-684-3110. We want to talk to you about even the drones. issue. You know, if you're in New Jersey, the tri-state area, I mean, it's happening all over the place, but you've got the New York governor saying, we got to get to the bottom of this. You have people trying to say, oh, these are all airplanes. That just can't be the case because you can't have this many low-flying airplanes around, you know, major airports like JFK and LaGuardia, Philadelphia, just randomly. You know, you're never supposed to be able to fly drones in in those areas, those restricted space areas, if you will. And yet the government seems like for now they're going to gaslight us. I have a feeling that if we don't get an answer now, we're certainly going to get an answer when President Trump comes into office. But that shouldn't have to be the case, Will. We should get the answer now. Let's go to the phones. John in Illinois on line two. Hey, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
John, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
We'll check with John and get back to him. There's some interesting news, too, over just the power of President Trump and diplomacy. You know, Justin Trudeau in Canada has taken a very leftist move in Canada. So in the past, we were used to actually fairly conservative governments. When I say that, they're not exactly what we would define necessarily conservative as, but they were more conservative than like the Conservative Party in the UK. Trudeau, very much a leftist. Well, he is actually considering, this is breaking news now, resigning. because he does not believe he can work with president Trump effectively to help the Canadian people now is he really going to do that I have no idea but that I it also could be his cover will for why and the leftists who are probably mad at him for why he flew down to Mar-a-Lago and took that kind of beating from president Trump he kept calling him as he still does governor Trudeau Because he said, hey, why don't we just, Canada can be our 51st state.
SPEAKER 03 :
When you look at also what happened in the Canadian government, it's a parliamentary style government, it's coalition governments. The finance minister went to Trudeau and basically said, hey, these policies we're doing, which she was in charge of, by the way. haven't been working and with the tariffs maybe we got to change course and Trudeau and she had a fight and he offered to demote her and instead she resigned narrowing his majority in that coalition government that he has when conservatives in Canada had made big gains earlier this year. And all the polling shows that when they do call elections, as parliamentary governments do, that Trudeau will be overwhelmed by the conservative support and lose that prime ministership anyways. So he may be trying to look for an easy off-ramp, unlike Judge Marchand, who wants to keep delaying the inevitable.
SPEAKER 04 :
right folks again we want to take your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110 there's a lot to talk about here and i am willing to talk about that ufo issue i think it's gone bipartisan and it's way too long we have not gotten the answer support the work of the aclj remember final two weeks of our faith and freedom drive the most important time of our year donate today double your impact we need your support donate Welcome back to Sekulow. Again, we are taking your phone calls. And this is another one that I think is going to be a really fun agency. And sometimes you say, are budget-cutting agencies fun? Well, they are when Elon Musk is running them with Vivek Ramaswamy. And as you see President Trump keeping both of them close. as well as if you saw the Army-Navy game, you saw our colleague Tulsi Gabbard there as well. You kind of see that that team is coming together. Speaker Johnson, someone we've worked with, again, so long, well, long before he was even in the House of Representatives. So you start seeing that team come together, these different coalitions, J.D. Vance included, too. And you realize when you talk about... cost-cutting and you put this group together it is kind of the opposite of how the Republican Party used to look at it and I think that will was kind of like the Paul Ryan way maybe the Boehner way just that just a different style where they really were worried that they couldn't come in and say you know or they thought it would be too extreme to say you know over time we need to dismantle Department of Education And there might still be a DOE, but those people need to be working out in the fields, providing support to the public schools. They shouldn't all be stuck in Washington, D.C. What are they doing there? Just coming up with random curriculum. Why do we have these thousands of people managing public schools who already have management at multi-levels going up to the state. And if we are going to keep some kind of a federal involvement there, obviously to make sure that everybody is getting the education they deserve and working on school choice issues. You combine school choice and really taking the Department of Education a totally different route to where these people in D.C. don't just get to sit at their and there are fancy buildings, but I actually have to go and work in the field. And I think that is the new way of looking at things. Well, it's also telling federal workers, listen, only 17% of you are showing up at all to work. If you don't show up to work, you're gone. And that's a matrix where I don't think they are protected by. Like in the past, it's very difficult to remove bureaucrats for anything but cause. And the cause has to be pretty serious or multiple times. In this case. not showing up to work after you were mandated to be in the office I think would be at the top of the list because you're literally skipping work and disobeying your director so it's insubordination and I feel like that group can be let go easily so I think they're going to call them out on say are these people going to show up do they even live in Northern Virginia anymore, because let me tell you, I know folks who are pretty high up in the bureaucracy who joke about it. They aren't still in Washington, D.C. Their position is there, their office is there, but guess what? They're living wherever they want off of your taxpayer dollars. So there's a lot to do there when it comes to Doge, but there's even an aspect on life, Will, And I think this is key too, because when people think about Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, they know that they're kind of newer to the Republican Party, but they also have core beliefs. And Elon Musk is someone, as you know, he has a lot of kids. He believes this whole idea of population control is absurd. And so, because there's so many countries around the world where populations are on decline, and that's not good for the economy, because it makes it that much more difficult for the current population a generation as they retire to be taken care of by the generation that comes behind them if there are much less people in that generation who are earning so they but they didn't stop there will they went right to the heart of something we have been calling for for a long time and now that roe versus wade has been overturned it can be done it can be done without a lot of legal challenges at all and this is cutting the three to five hundred million dollars a year that Planned Parenthood receives from our taxpayer dollars. Half of their budget. They're a billion-dollar-a-year organization. They raise about half. Good for them. They can do that on their own. But why should they get another $500 million from your taxpayer dollars? And the Doge guys and the guys at Elon and Vivek want it cut.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right, Jordan. And we sent this article around from Politico last night because the left's pet projects are under attack now that the Department of Government Efficiency has a mandate to eliminate waste and inefficiency in the government. And remind people, this isn't the Department of Government cuts. This is the Department of Government efficiency. It doesn't want to get rid of government per se. It wants to make sure that it's doing its mandate for the American people. And Politico put this article out and think the mandate for Doge is the two trillion dollars in cuts they want to make. They honed in on the Wall Street Journal article that Vivek and Elon Musk put out. And they mentioned Planned Parenthood. We were very excited because it's something we've championed defunding for decades here at the ACLJ.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's no. No law, no rule that forces the American people to have to pay for any organization's work. That is totally up to legislation. And though you can do that, and there are a lot of disaster relief organizations that will partner with the federal government as needed. But in this situation, we're just giving money to Planned Parenthood to do their thing, to expand.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, Jordan, this is the article headline, as they want to now discredit Doge. The Doge plan that could cost millions. And they talk about cutting the nearly $300 million, and I think that's an underestimate, going to Planned Parenthood. Right. But then it says, it points out that when they study this Congressional Budget Office, if you cut this funding, that it actually will end up costing $130 million more over 10 years of services. So you think it's like, okay, well, first of all, that's only $13 million extra a year that by cutting it that you're spending. So it's not like on the scale of cutting $2 trillion, spending $13 million a year, not that big of a deal. But their rationale is that if you cut Planned Parenthood's funding, as much as 25% of the estimated 2.6 million clients served by Planned Parenthood would face reduced access to care. particularly services that help women avert pregnancies, meaning the number of births in the Medicaid program would increase by several thousand per year. So the left's ideology is saying that if you cut Planned Parenthood, it's going to cost more money because there will be more people. And if that isn't the most sick rationale of saying we need to keep sending $500 million a year to Planned Parenthood, I don't know what is. They're admitting what we say all along. It proves the fungibility of money under Planned Parenthood. Because if they're saying by cutting their funding, more people will be born, that's kind of the goal. We want life. We are pro-life. But you even have to think about this, Jordan. In light of the assassination on the UnitedHealthcare CEO... where the left cries that the insurance company is so corrupt, it only treats people as numbers and dollars, not as human beings. That's exactly the same ideology that they're proving that they're for with government spending, because they're not looking at these several thousand number of births as lives, they're looking at as taxpayer burden. And I don't know a single pro-life person out there that would not want more spending, reusing that spending to help pregnant mothers rather than just spending it to help them end the life. And that's the complete brainwashing of the left where they only see births as numbers and a line item in the federal budget.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and what they forget to tell you is that eventually these children who will be born will be earners. And we need more of those earners. Why? Well, we just explained it. There's too many groups who decided not to have as many children in our country. And we are being outpaced by others because we bought into this idea of overpopulation, which there are countries in the world where, yes, overpopulation has been a huge issue, and we do work in India, certainly there, the fact that you've got just people everywhere. But there are also, if you drive through India, a lot of areas which are completely open. So there is opportunities to think uniquely and differently, like we did as an early country. We wanted the people to go into the frontier, so we made it easier for them to go into the frontier and say, start a new life. Here's your plot of land. Here's where you can build your house. And this is the kind of work and jobs we'll have out there. Take advantage of it. So we really need these resources coming in from young people. Now, I don't look at children being born just as dollar signs, but that's what they do. Realize that. They're just saying, you know what? Don't think about the fact that we're killing children. We're going to try to make this a pocket book issue for you, Will. We're going to try to make it an issue about, you know what? We don't need all these kids because that's going to cost me more in taxes. In fact, if you are someone even within 25 years of retiring and we don't get our population numbers up, it's going to be a lot tougher for the federal government to be paying for your social security, for all those different drug plans. I mean, so I mean, like think about Medicare. If you've got so many less people, who are in their working years that are paying those taxes at their employers. I mean, so if you don't do it, I mean, everybody's in serious trouble except for who, Will?
SPEAKER 03 :
The elites. And that's exactly why we're initiating that campaign in Massachusetts. It's this ideology that only sees births as government line item budget items instead of changing people's hearts and minds about what their options are. That's why we have this campaign and you can actually help fund that. We've shown the video on the show yesterday when Logan was here. But you can go to aclj.org slash savebabies, and that will take you to help push this marketing campaign in Massachusetts and around the country that shows that there are options. That's why pregnancy resource centers are so important, because they show options. They give mothers a real choice, not the choice that Politico and Planned Parenthood want you to believe you have. Go to aclj.org slash savebabies. Donate today. Your gift is doubled.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm proud of my brother, Logan, Will Haynes, our production team here, not the production even for just the show, though a lot of that team also worked on really putting together our first issue advocacy ad that will be running in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, pushing back on this $8 million campaign that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has partnered with a radical pro-abortion group together to put these billboards and there's commercials, they're on the buses. They are on your television. They use primetime to demonize these pregnancy resource centers because they offer alternatives other than abortion. So they want you to avoid them, as you can see in some of this advertising. But if you're listening to the show right now, I want to make sure for those of you who just watched, you saw the ad again during our break. But remember, we got thousands and thousands, probably over a million people right now throughout the day who are going to be listening to this show instead of watching it. And so I want to make sure they hear the content because there's going to be radio components of this, the visual component of it, web ads, traditional television advertising as well. I mean, we're talking billboards and we don't want to just do this in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. We know the overall cost to run a full level campaign that we want to do is about for Massachusetts is about $500,000. We're well on our way there. Big thank you to folks who have responded. Uh, We then wanted to say, if we can do it there, let's take it to more states. It's not going to be in a lot of red states, but in blue states. And maybe they're not going to be as big of a market necessarily as Boston and all the cities and states that surround that, that you have to make sure your ads get into. But I want you to see... This is just the kind of opening salvo, the first ad we've created to push back in Massachusetts. For those of you who already saw it on, you know, watching on YouTube or Rumble, just take it in. Close your eyes, kind of listen to the words if you're not driving and think about listening it that way, too, about how important the work of these PRCs are. They are not to be demonized. They're to be praised. They're on the front lines of changing and saving children. We can do all that legal work to overturn Roe versus Wade, but there have to be people ready to help women who are in tough situations make the best decisions at no cost. So just like our legal work is at no cost, these pregnancy resource centers provide all of this at no cost. Planned Parenthood doesn't like that either because they get either reimbursement money from states or people pay directly for them to have abortions. So they don't want this. They're like going up against a business. They're not just like the nonprofit world. So. Watch it. Really pay attention to the words. And this is just, again, part one of what we want to do in Massachusetts. There's going to be a lot more just to that campaign. We just have to have the resources to run it effectively. We don't want to be running a... $200,000 campaign up against 8 million. But if we can get to that 500,000-ish number, even though they spent 8 million, when you're the state, you kind of throw that money around in a lot of junk. We are going to use that money that you donate to us very specifically, very targeted, so it hits exactly the right people. So let's watch it. Let's listen.
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I'll never forget that day. scariest moment of my life. I had just started my business and then this. Pregnant? Really? I just thought about all of my dreams falling apart. I needed help, I needed answers. Places I heard of, they seemed to only offer one option. Then I found a pregnancy resource center and they talked to me about my options. She listened, she actually cared about me. No shame, no judgment. I'll never forget that day either. The day that I realized, maybe this wasn't the end of my dreams, but just the start of one I hadn't even imagined. He is here. To find a pregnancy resource center near you, go to choicebeginshere.org. 15th.
SPEAKER 04 :
So again, the website people go with, Choice Begins Here.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that's what the ad is doing because- Can people go there yet? Is that site ready? It is live. Yeah, but once again, if you want to support this project, you go to aclj.org slash savebabies. That link will give people resources to find pregnancy resource centers. So this isn't an ad speaking to our base, people that know about pregnancy resource centers, people that want to support that. because we're going to Massachusetts to counter the campaign by the state and this abortion group that is targeting what they call anti-abortion centers. They tell you to be on the lookout for words like hope and things of that nature because it could be a deceptive anti-abortion center.
SPEAKER 04 :
and we filed lawsuit there yeah against because the state's using state funds to support this group today so we're not just trying to run ads it is new for us but we we think it can be very effective to combat those uh this this advertising and also continue the legal battle simultaneously but we've got to have your financial support but will i know that it's important sometimes to hear from the individuals hear from the courts hear from who are up against here
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And so we filed this lawsuit saying, hey, you're using government money to target a viewpoint. It's viewpoint discrimination. Pro-life pregnancy resource centers. And they filed their response, their motion to dismiss. So they're trying to get it thrown out of court early before it can proceed. And they are giving the factual background in this motion to dismiss. And it says on March 22nd, 2023... The Massachusetts legislator enacted fiscal year 2023 supplemental budget, signed by Governor Healey on March 29, 2023, which provided that not less than $1 million shall be expended for a public awareness campaign to educate providers and the public about crisis pregnancy centers and pregnancy resource centers and the center's lack of medical services. Provided further that this campaign shall include information on the availability of providers across the Commonwealth that provide legitimate medical and family planning services. So they're only going to consider you legitimate if you offer abortion. It later goes on in their motion to dismiss where they talk about. The fact that these medical centers, they don't offer abortion. That's literally what they're complaining about, that they may provide ultrasounds and counseling, but they advertise themselves as full-service reproductive health care clinics, yet they do not provide abortion care or abortion referral. At the end of the day, it goes back to what we talked about with this Politico article. They are so brainwashed into thinking the only way to care for an unexpected pregnancy or anything of that nature is to have the option of abortion. And they will go so far as to use the taxpayers money of Massachusetts to try and slam the the pregnancy resource centers, these centers that give options, that give pre, postnatal care, that give diapers, meals, counseling to people that find themselves in a situation where they think they have no other choice. And they don't want you to have a choice. They want you to make one choice. What our campaign will do with your help at aclj.org slash savebabies is to show that there are choices and there are people to help you with those choices. Folks,
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