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Today on Sekulow, a New York judge denies immunity for President Trump.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
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All right, here we go. How long can we keep these cases moving against President Trump so that they can still go into the news and say, well, there's pending charges and Judge Mershon did not buy, I guess, what, the Supreme Court's argument that the president was immune from the people who went in and testified because of executive privilege there's all these issues involved this case that might be the one that actually takes it down is that so much of the evidence was derived by evidence that the supreme court said is not proper or you'd have to at least litigate through each individual's person on whether or not but what they shared would be covered by executive privilege. But in general, in general, what the Supreme court found is that you assume it is. So it's something that the government, the prosecutors would have to prove, uh, with a pretty high bar that it isn't a protected presidential communication. But will the important part here on this case is not that judge Rashan has, uh, I think, uh, left no room for him to dismiss this case. He still has one more opportunity to do that before more appeals begin. But at the same time, this was a way for him to say, you know what, I'm bound by the U.S. Supreme Court. You guys tried to do this with these federal charges. There's immunity questions. There's privilege questions. This doesn't work anymore.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And this decision was expected early November, around November 12th. However, Judge Mershon postponed releasing this decision on how the Supreme Court's immunity decision would affect his sentencing in the case.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's why there's no sentencing yet because there's more cases to come. From Mershon, there's more.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. There's more chances to dismiss it. However, he postponed releasing this immunity ruling. which he'd been working on, they'd been briefing on since the Supreme Court released their decision on it. He postponed it from November 12th to now, it came out yesterday, last night, December 16th. And it's a little odd to me that he did push that back with this outcome and he goes through in his conclusion he goes through the exhibits that were in question and and says that many people many of them that weren't uh he said he just categorically said these communications i don't think were immune because i don't think they were official acts so he's making judgments there but then he also says lastly this court concludes that if error occurred regarding the introduction of challenged evidence, so evidence that would have been covered by the immunity ruling from the Supreme Court, such error was harmless in light of the overwhelming evidence of guilt. This was evidence that was introduced that were communications once President Trump was in the White House, that under that broad interpretation of you start with the assumption it is covered by this immunity ruling and work back from there. Right. And the fact that he found nothing as is covered with this immunity ruling, I feel like opens the door for an appeal if it even gets there. But an appeal just based off of his judgment of completely shutting down what came out of that Supreme Court ruling in this state lower court judge. saying that, no, I don't have to throw this out based off that. Now, we know that the briefing and Alvin Bragg gave kind of the two to three options of keeping this alive in the motion to dismiss now that President Trump will be entering the White House. So we still don't have that ruling, but we'll have Harry Hutchison on next to get more into the details on this immunity ruling in the next segment.
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Yeah, I want to take your calls on this too. 1-800-684-3110. This idea of how long can we keep former President Trump in court and can they try to do it while he becomes President Trump? And you've got those issues there about tolling and trying to say, well, let's add a year. That's come out of the... James and all these others and say, well, we can add time to it because eventually he's not going to be president and then we can bring these charges. I mean, so they have actually changed laws in the state of New York just to be able to prosecute President Trump. They added extensions to the separation of powers. Taking your calls at 1-800-684-3110. This is why we need strong attorney generals like Pam Bondi, strong FBI directors like Kash Patel. Be right back on Secular. Welcome back to Secular. We are going to take your calls on this. And look, I know it can sound complicated when we walk through these issues. Here's what's not complicated. I want to make this clear to everybody. We are in the final two weeks of our Faith and Freedom year-end drive. The ACLJ takes on literally, you know this if you're a a supporter of the ACLJ if you've been listening to this show for a long time but if you're new to us if maybe just you know turned on through the election season or this last year you may not realize how large really our legal component which is the driving component of what the ACLJ is all about not just this broadcast The biggest component of what we do is in court and in the judiciary system, both at the federal and state level. And we've been doing it that way since 1989. But, of course, we've also increased our government affairs team presence there in Washington, D.C. and offices around the world. But when it comes right down to it, I just wanted to give you kind of a summary. of 2024 and listen there could be more of these coming between now and the end of the year but this is where we are right now we take told you about the hundreds of cases so let's break it down a little just in this past year we've handled 142 religious liberty matters this year alone that's just in 2024 142 religious liberty matters just think about that for a second that's 142 clients cases Briefs, and really on top of many of those briefs, you're talking about five, six, up to nine. So demand letters fighting back and at no charge to our clients because of our donors. So we can take on more cases. We can also broaden out the cases that we can take. I mean, they have to fit what we do, what our expertise is at the ACLJ. But you can add more and more and more complicated cases that you know are going to initially drain some real resources from the ACLJ if our donors are with us. And so we really need your support because this month alone determines kind of how we start the year and our budgeting. So, you know, how much do we we never going to turn a case down, by the way, because we think it's too expensive. We're never going to do that. But it's in a much better position to say we're never going to turn a case down because of cost, because we always have the ability not only to handle the cost. We know our donors will step up for us if we need it, and they'll even step up if we need to bring in outside firms. uh to to really swarm and and win these huge important cases not just for our generation or your generation but for your kids kids kids and your grandkids that these issues will always sometimes be challenged but we've won so big on these issues that now it's usually comes down to much you know smaller issues and that's great but then every once in a while especially during this woke movement we're starting to see an uptick in the more traditional style. I'd say 1980s, 90s, probably 70s or 80s style of cases pop back up again because of how the librarians are fighting back and not wanting to put things on poster boards. Sending FBI agents to Catholic people's houses because they happen to be at a pro-life rally and they've got SWAT teams there. The idea, again, that being pro-life, is likely means that you're part of some kind of right-wing terror group, all those things. We know we've got a lot more fight to go, but here's more numbers. So you've got the 142 religious liberty, how about 175 pro-life legal matters, 197 free speech matters, we talked about the 142 religious liberty matters, 126 legal actions battling the deep state, those FOIAs that initially are, we hope that they will produce documents but usually after months of negotiation we have to file in federal court and then of course there's lots of cases that don't necessarily fit into those categories as well and there's hundreds of those. So these next two weeks are the most critical of our year in drive. We've been saying it, but I hope those numbers together there for you really underscore the amount of legal work the ACLJ is doing just in the United States of America, just. With all the other distractions going on this past year, presidential race and the primaries and all of that, that the ACLJ in the main categories why we exist domestically has done hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of cases that have huge consequences. consequences. I want to go to Harry Hutchinson because another case that will be setting us up to file more in is coming as we said out of New York in this they call you know the hush money case this is another one of those cases where Alvin Bragg was trying to bootstrap a FEC federal election law issue to a state law issue Harry and even though he had no jurisdiction to be filing or be charging Donald Trump with federal crimes so there's a lot of issues with the case then President Trump gets elected again and suddenly there's even bigger issues so it's not just the supreme court's ruling now you have to deal with the fact that he's about to be in office and yet still this judge at least this week unwilling to give it up
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I think that's correct. And one of the things that's apparent, I think, to most observers is the lawfare against Donald Trump has actually helped him politically. But if we focus on Judge Mershon's decision in this case so far, he has ruled that Trump does not have presidential immunity for his campaign finance conviction. So essentially, we have a state action brought to vindicate campaign finance law, which is a federal offense. And so what Judge Marchand has done at this particular point in time is he has ignored the Supreme Court's presidential immunity decision, which holds that presidents have immunity for official acts while president. So to be clear, Judge Marchand's decision rejected one of several avenues available to him that would enable Trump to dismiss his guilty verdict on 34 counts of falsifying business records. the judge did not explicitly rule on Trump's motion to dismiss on grounds that Trump has now been elected president. So I think if we focus solely on Judge Marchand's decision, we have a situation in which we have an outstanding Supreme Court decision on immunity and Judge Marchand basically saying if evidence was introduced concerning Donald Trump's official acts, First, such evidence was harmless error, but secondly, Judge Marchand has concluded that no such evidence was indeed introduced. So in some respects, Judge Marchand is A, not clear, and B, he's contradicting himself.
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Well, and Professor Hutchison, you have to look at this and think, one, these things have been drug out so long at this point. That's why a little bit it's surprising that Judge Mershon took his time, delayed releasing this, and still came up with these conclusions. But you have to think it sets up the president for an appeal, having these rulings across the board that nothing was covered under immunity on such really a subjective thought exercise, if you will. It really begs the question if Judge Mershon even was concerned about his legacy as a jurist on the court there. that he would have taken the easy off-ramp instead of setting it up for multiple layers of appeal that could be brought against this ruling.
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I think you're right, except Judge Mershon, along with many people in Manhattan, is stubbornly committed to the Trump derangement syndrome. So I think at the end of the day, he could not persuade himself to basically take the easy off ramp, if you will, Instead, he is stubbornly insisting that this case move forward. Now, there are several additional moves that the Trump lawyers have made, which will enable at least the judge to take an easier off-ramp. But right now, my guess is he is prepared to stubbornly insist that Trump face potential punishment after, for instance, he serves his term as president. So keep in mind, Judge Marchand is considering a motion from Manhattan District Attorney Bragg involving a controversial novel idea from Alabama, the so-called abatement by death approach, which would maintain the conviction as if Trump had died. So there are many routes for Judge Marchand to exercise, if you will, his stubbornness.
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Yeah, I mean, at some point, I think that though, Harry, just briefly, the stubbornness comes to a close, right? He's running out of options to keep this case up.
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I think that is true, but I think one of the things that we should keep in mind is that he may still basically try to hold the hammer over Trump's head until Trump leaves office.
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We're going to be on it, folks. If we need to file there again, yet again, as these go on appeal, we will. Support the work of the ACLJ, as you said, as we talk through. these cases 175 pro-life legal matters just this year 197 free speech matters just this year 142 religious liberty matters just this year 126 legal actions battling the deep state and then the cases that just don't hundreds that don't fit into those exact categories you know why we were able to do all those cases because of your financial support of the ACLJ. And I'd like to be doing even more, even bigger, even more complicated. We can only do that with your financial support. Double the impact your donation today. We need that support. So please, whatever donation you can make, make it today. You see the facts, you hear the numbers, you know we win. Welcome back to Secular. Remember, second half hour coming up. We'll take your phone calls too on all these matters. Maybe even some of the UFOs. 1-800-684-3010. Did you guys talk about that yesterday?
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We didn't. We haven't gotten to that yet. We were waiting for you.
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I think we do have to get to some of that just to... again get well what what we do and don't know but we know that there's democrats starting to say enough is enough we got governors saying let's pass laws to say we can shoot things out of the sky let's make sure they're not airplanes first or how do we determine what the one that is an airplane versus one that is a drone there's a lot of issues there uh but at the same time it does feel like the the truth is being hidden from us because at this point um They acknowledge just some of this activity and what people are seeing is just way too big to be said. These are not things you go buy at your local Walmart that your kids can play with or do a flyover of a house for a real estate thing that you're kind of used to seeing drones. And they use them in sporting events and things like that. Those are small. We know drones can look like airplanes. I mean, they take off like airplanes, especially when you're talking about those that carry deadly payloads. So we'll get to some of that, too, at 1-800-684-3110. I wanted to bring in a very good friend of ours, basically since we started kind of dipping our feet into not just Washington, D.C. and the legal system, but into the political world and the executive branch. And that is Tim Gageline. And Tim, we love having you on the show. I'm so glad you reached out to us. Just a little bit about you, too, for people. You were the special assistant to President George W. Bush and a deputy director of the White House Office of Public Liaison. You were the president's principal outreach contact. So you can understand how Tim got to know us very well for conservative and faith-based groups. He also helped me, folks, kick off my political career in campaign politics, which is something, again, that led me to work on, you know, not just one, but I think it was four total presidential campaigns. So Tim, I will always appreciate you for that. You've got a new book out now. You're currently the Vice President of External and Government Relations for Focus on the Family. And your new book, Stumbling Toward Utopia, How the 1960s Turned into a National Nightmare and How We Can Revive the American Dream. So my first question for you is this. Tell everybody about your book and this stumbling towards utopia idea.
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You bet. I travel a lot, Jordan, and thanks for having me on for Focus on the Family. Although I live and work in Washington, I travel about a third of the time. I debate. I'm on panels. I do remarks, speeches, whether it's a left-wing audience, right-wing audience, non-ideological People say, Jordan, how in the world did we get into this mess? And in the era that we're in, people don't have to give much more information because we all know what we're speaking about. And after hearing this for three straight years, I decided to write Stumbling Toward Utopia. which is a history of the radical, moral, and social revolution of the 1960s. And Stumbling Toward Utopia, eminently readable, is about how the 60s came about. The revolution in law and legal, the revolution in politics, the revolution in popular entertainment, the revolution in education, the sexual and moral revolution. All of this imposed upon our country, Jordan, by a relatively small circle of progressive social engineers. And we are all these years later, here we are in 2024, living with the social engineering that the people who foisted this upon us, that we're all living with. And Stumbling Toward Utopia, single book that explains not only how we got into this mess, but if I may say, how to get out of this mess. And I think that all of us who care about and love this beloved country are together on not arguing the past, understanding the past, but saying, what is the way forward? And I think that's why people will really enjoy Stumbling Toward Utopia.
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I mean, we've seen what's happened in other Western parts of the world where they don't integrate new immigrants into society very well and to kind of prioritize, hey, you are first a citizen of this country and then whether it's a faith, whether it's this idea that you're not going to be in conflict with a new country, this idea of taking over and changing the morals. And also the woke world that honestly any of us with young kids are very concerned about because... you have no idea what these teachers are teaching in classes. And occasionally when the ACLJ is contacted about it, it's jaw dropping Tim. I mean, it really is. It's not even something that you would imagine would be done with people who are, you know, 14 and 15 years old. I mean, they can't go buy an R rated ticket, but they can, go through an r-rated monologue or x-rated monologue in front of their entire class so you know it has its roots in the 60s so then all these professors now at college campuses they were kind of trained in this when they were students and I think that's where we got to this woke movement you agree like it's basically they were building it up through the universities and it's also why I think the democrat party is and the left is in a mess because there's the left and And then there's the radical left. And the radical left is where the younger people who are left are because they were taught by these radicals who have become more and more mainstream.
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Absolutely. A fellow conservative, Jordan, recently wrote that those who foist Wokistan are like hyenas. He said they hunt in packs. And that is so true. The overtaking of higher education, the overtaking of high school, middle school, elementary elementary and all government and public schools. It's a very big part of the story of stumbling toward utopia. But ironically, Jordan, and I'm an inveterate optimist, I mean, I believe that the best days for America are ahead of us. Ironically, the way forward out of this mess is in part through the schools. We now have record numbers of people who are running for school boards, working to design curriculums that put the American experience at the center, the U.S. Constitution at the center, the history of religious liberty at the center. So it's a very important thing that we focus like a laser beam on the rising generation of young Americans, and we need to go tell a new generation. And what I seek to do in Stumbling Toward Utopia is to provide a roadmap of how people who share our worldview want to move forward, want to move forward toward American restoration, American renewal, American regeneration. Stumbling Toward Utopia tells the story of how we got into the mess, but it also says, here's how we can get out of it. And I think it's very important that we all realize that the American dream is a real thing and it's possible and likely for our children and grandchildren.
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And if you want to get the book, Stumbling Towards Utopia, how the 1960s turned into a national nightmare and how we can revive the American dream, you can get that at faithfultext.com. You've heard kind of the roots of the problem now. And if you're interested in that roadmap, go check that out at faithfultext.com or anywhere you get your books.
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Tim, I just want to say a big thank you to you for joining us. Keep us updated about the book. I encourage everyone out there to go to faithfultext.com. Tim, that's the best place people can go. The book is up now, but that's the place people should go to order the book, faithfultext.com.
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Faithfultext.com, Amazon, wherever you love to get books. I mentioned Faithful Text because there are people who share our worldview, but it's available widely. And I hope people will read and enjoy it, Jordan.
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Absolutely. And they're going to learn a lot. Tim, I appreciate you joining us and working with us on the time. And I know I'm going to grab a copy of that book because you see the protesters there and you say, is that a picture from the 1960s? No. Those are photos that are happening now again with communists being celebrated and terrorists being celebrated in the streets of America. So we have to get ourselves educated. And what you'll do in this book, we don't want to give away, is learn how to defeat it. So get the book so you learn how. Tim, it's always great to have you. FaithfulText.com. Search Tim Gageline, and you've got to grab this book. We'll be right back on Sekulow. Support that work with ACLJ. ACLJ.org. Donate today.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
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All right, folks, welcome back to Sekulow. Let's get to the phones. 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. And remember, we don't talk about a lot of books on the air, and that's because we really like to know the people who are writing the books before we encourage you to spend time, one, purchasing the book and then taking their advice. But Tim Gagelin, certainly he's been in this battle before. for, especially in Washington, D.C., at the executive branch level and throughout legislators, you heard him, he's on the road most of the time, brought a lot of us into electoral politics by saying, you know, there is this role for us and carved that out to the point where, as you see, evangelical influence on the Republican Party still at an all-time high with President Trump and his incoming administration, because it's such a key voting bloc. Tim was part of kind of that movement beginning and doubling down on it in the George W. Bush years when he knew that they were coming up against a tough midterm, second term election, reelection. And I remember Tim is the one who really helped me with others uh land a spot on that team uh that to on the bush cheney re-elect team uh which i had already worked on some campaigns for people with people like uh chairman ralph reed when he was the chair of the georgia republican party so there was a lot again people there but When Tim writes a book like this, he's a very serious guy, and I think the fact that he's got a solution in there is the reason why you should definitely check it out. Will, let's go to the phones at 1-800-684-3110. We want to talk to you about even the drones. issue. You know, if you're in New Jersey, the tri-state area, I mean, it's happening all over the place, but you've got the New York governor saying, we got to get to the bottom of this. You have people trying to say, oh, these are all airplanes. That just can't be the case because you can't have this many low-flying airplanes around, you know, major airports like JFK and LaGuardia, Philadelphia, just randomly. You know, you're never supposed to be able to fly drones in in those areas, those restricted space areas, if you will. And yet the government seems like for now they're going to gaslight us. I have a feeling that if we don't get an answer now, we're certainly going to get an answer when President Trump comes into office. But that shouldn't have to be the case, Will. We should get the answer now. Let's go to the phones. John in Illinois on line two. Hey, John.
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John, you're on the air.
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We'll check with John and get back to him. There's some interesting news, too, over just the power of President Trump and diplomacy. You know, Justin Trudeau in Canada has taken a very leftist move in Canada. So in the past, we were used to actually fairly conservative governments. When I say that, they're not exactly what we would define necessarily conservative as, but they were more conservative than like the Conservative Party in the UK. Trudeau, very much a leftist. Well, he is actually considering, this is breaking news now, resigning. because he does not believe he can work with president Trump effectively to help the Canadian people now is he really going to do that I have no idea but that I it also could be his cover will for why and the leftists who are probably mad at him for why he flew down to Mar-a-Lago and took that kind of beating from president Trump he kept calling him as he still does governor Trudeau Because he said, hey, why don't we just, Canada can be our 51st state.
SPEAKER 03 :
When you look at also what happened in the Canadian government, it's a parliamentary style government, it's coalition governments. The finance minister went to Trudeau and basically said, hey, these policies we're doing, which she was in charge of, by the way. haven't been working and with the tariffs maybe we got to change course and Trudeau and she had a fight and he offered to demote her and instead she resigned narrowing his majority in that coalition government that he has when conservatives in Canada had made big gains earlier this year. And all the polling shows that when they do call elections, as parliamentary governments do, that Trudeau will be overwhelmed by the conservative support and lose that prime ministership anyways. So he may be trying to look for an easy off-ramp, unlike Judge Marchand, who wants to keep delaying the inevitable.
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right folks again we want to take your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110 there's a lot to talk about here and i am willing to talk about that ufo issue i think it's gone bipartisan and it's way too long we have not gotten the answer support the work of the aclj remember final two weeks of our faith and freedom drive the most important time of our year donate today double your impact we need your support donate Welcome back to Sekulow. Again, we are taking your phone calls. And this is another one that I think is going to be a really fun agency. And sometimes you say, are budget-cutting agencies fun? Well, they are when Elon Musk is running them with Vivek Ramaswamy. And as you see President Trump keeping both of them close. as well as if you saw the Army-Navy game, you saw our colleague Tulsi Gabbard there as well. You kind of see that that team is coming together. Speaker Johnson, someone we've worked with, again, so long, well, long before he was even in the House of Representatives. So you start seeing that team come together, these different coalitions, J.D. Vance included, too. And you realize when you talk about... cost-cutting and you put this group together it is kind of the opposite of how the Republican Party used to look at it and I think that will was kind of like the Paul Ryan way maybe the Boehner way just that just a different style where they really were worried that they couldn't come in and say you know or they thought it would be too extreme to say you know over time we need to dismantle Department of Education And there might still be a DOE, but those people need to be working out in the fields, providing support to the public schools. They shouldn't all be stuck in Washington, D.C. What are they doing there? Just coming up with random curriculum. Why do we have these thousands of people managing public schools who already have management at multi-levels going up to the state. And if we are going to keep some kind of a federal involvement there, obviously to make sure that everybody is getting the education they deserve and working on school choice issues. You combine school choice and really taking the Department of Education a totally different route to where these people in D.C. don't just get to sit at their and there are fancy buildings, but I actually have to go and work in the field. And I think that is the new way of looking at things. Well, it's also telling federal workers, listen, only 17% of you are showing up at all to work. If you don't show up to work, you're gone. And that's a matrix where I don't think they are protected by. Like in the past, it's very difficult to remove bureaucrats for anything but cause. And the cause has to be pretty serious or multiple times. In this case. not showing up to work after you were mandated to be in the office I think would be at the top of the list because you're literally skipping work and disobeying your director so it's insubordination and I feel like that group can be let go easily so I think they're going to call them out on say are these people going to show up do they even live in Northern Virginia anymore, because let me tell you, I know folks who are pretty high up in the bureaucracy who joke about it. They aren't still in Washington, D.C. Their position is there, their office is there, but guess what? They're living wherever they want off of your taxpayer dollars. So there's a lot to do there when it comes to Doge, but there's even an aspect on life, Will, And I think this is key too, because when people think about Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, they know that they're kind of newer to the Republican Party, but they also have core beliefs. And Elon Musk is someone, as you know, he has a lot of kids. He believes this whole idea of population control is absurd. And so, because there's so many countries around the world where populations are on decline, and that's not good for the economy, because it makes it that much more difficult for the current population a generation as they retire to be taken care of by the generation that comes behind them if there are much less people in that generation who are earning so they but they didn't stop there will they went right to the heart of something we have been calling for for a long time and now that roe versus wade has been overturned it can be done it can be done without a lot of legal challenges at all and this is cutting the three to five hundred million dollars a year that Planned Parenthood receives from our taxpayer dollars. Half of their budget. They're a billion-dollar-a-year organization. They raise about half. Good for them. They can do that on their own. But why should they get another $500 million from your taxpayer dollars? And the Doge guys and the guys at Elon and Vivek want it cut.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right, Jordan. And we sent this article around from Politico last night because the left's pet projects are under attack now that the Department of Government Efficiency has a mandate to eliminate waste and inefficiency in the government. And remind people, this isn't the Department of Government cuts. This is the Department of Government efficiency. It doesn't want to get rid of government per se. It wants to make sure that it's doing its mandate for the American people. And Politico put this article out and think the mandate for Doge is the two trillion dollars in cuts they want to make. They honed in on the Wall Street Journal article that Vivek and Elon Musk put out. And they mentioned Planned Parenthood. We were very excited because it's something we've championed defunding for decades here at the ACLJ.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's no. No law, no rule that forces the American people to have to pay for any organization's work. That is totally up to legislation. And though you can do that, and there are a lot of disaster relief organizations that will partner with the federal government as needed. But in this situation, we're just giving money to Planned Parenthood to do their thing, to expand.
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So, Jordan, this is the article headline, as they want to now discredit Doge. The Doge plan that could cost millions. And they talk about cutting the nearly $300 million, and I think that's an underestimate, going to Planned Parenthood. Right. But then it says, it points out that when they study this Congressional Budget Office, if you cut this funding, that it actually will end up costing $130 million more over 10 years of services. So you think it's like, okay, well, first of all, that's only $13 million extra a year that by cutting it that you're spending. So it's not like on the scale of cutting $2 trillion, spending $13 million a year, not that big of a deal. But their rationale is that if you cut Planned Parenthood's funding, as much as 25% of the estimated 2.6 million clients served by Planned Parenthood would face reduced access to care. particularly services that help women avert pregnancies, meaning the number of births in the Medicaid program would increase by several thousand per year. So the left's ideology is saying that if you cut Planned Parenthood, it's going to cost more money because there will be more people. And if that isn't the most sick rationale of saying we need to keep sending $500 million a year to Planned Parenthood, I don't know what is. They're admitting what we say all along. It proves the fungibility of money under Planned Parenthood. Because if they're saying by cutting their funding, more people will be born, that's kind of the goal. We want life. We are pro-life. But you even have to think about this, Jordan. In light of the assassination on the UnitedHealthcare CEO... where the left cries that the insurance company is so corrupt, it only treats people as numbers and dollars, not as human beings. That's exactly the same ideology that they're proving that they're for with government spending, because they're not looking at these several thousand number of births as lives, they're looking at as taxpayer burden. And I don't know a single pro-life person out there that would not want more spending, reusing that spending to help pregnant mothers rather than just spending it to help them end the life. And that's the complete brainwashing of the left where they only see births as numbers and a line item in the federal budget.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and what they forget to tell you is that eventually these children who will be born will be earners. And we need more of those earners. Why? Well, we just explained it. There's too many groups who decided not to have as many children in our country. And we are being outpaced by others because we bought into this idea of overpopulation, which there are countries in the world where, yes, overpopulation has been a huge issue, and we do work in India, certainly there, the fact that you've got just people everywhere. But there are also, if you drive through India, a lot of areas which are completely open. So there is opportunities to think uniquely and differently, like we did as an early country. We wanted the people to go into the frontier, so we made it easier for them to go into the frontier and say, start a new life. Here's your plot of land. Here's where you can build your house. And this is the kind of work and jobs we'll have out there. Take advantage of it. So we really need these resources coming in from young people. Now, I don't look at children being born just as dollar signs, but that's what they do. Realize that. They're just saying, you know what? Don't think about the fact that we're killing children. We're going to try to make this a pocket book issue for you, Will. We're going to try to make it an issue about, you know what? We don't need all these kids because that's going to cost me more in taxes. In fact, if you are someone even within 25 years of retiring and we don't get our population numbers up, it's going to be a lot tougher for the federal government to be paying for your social security, for all those different drug plans. I mean, so I mean, like think about Medicare. If you've got so many less people, who are in their working years that are paying those taxes at their employers. I mean, so if you don't do it, I mean, everybody's in serious trouble except for who, Will?
SPEAKER 03 :
The elites. And that's exactly why we're initiating that campaign in Massachusetts. It's this ideology that only sees births as government line item budget items instead of changing people's hearts and minds about what their options are. That's why we have this campaign and you can actually help fund that. We've shown the video on the show yesterday when Logan was here. But you can go to aclj.org slash savebabies, and that will take you to help push this marketing campaign in Massachusetts and around the country that shows that there are options. That's why pregnancy resource centers are so important, because they show options. They give mothers a real choice, not the choice that Politico and Planned Parenthood want you to believe you have. Go to aclj.org slash savebabies. Donate today. Your gift is doubled.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm proud of my brother, Logan, Will Haynes, our production team here, not the production even for just the show, though a lot of that team also worked on really putting together our first issue advocacy ad that will be running in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, pushing back on this $8 million campaign that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has partnered with a radical pro-abortion group together to put these billboards and there's commercials, they're on the buses. They are on your television. They use primetime to demonize these pregnancy resource centers because they offer alternatives other than abortion. So they want you to avoid them, as you can see in some of this advertising. But if you're listening to the show right now, I want to make sure for those of you who just watched, you saw the ad again during our break. But remember, we got thousands and thousands, probably over a million people right now throughout the day who are going to be listening to this show instead of watching it. And so I want to make sure they hear the content because there's going to be radio components of this, the visual component of it, web ads, traditional television advertising as well. I mean, we're talking billboards and we don't want to just do this in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. We know the overall cost to run a full level campaign that we want to do is about for Massachusetts is about $500,000. We're well on our way there. Big thank you to folks who have responded. Uh, We then wanted to say, if we can do it there, let's take it to more states. It's not going to be in a lot of red states, but in blue states. And maybe they're not going to be as big of a market necessarily as Boston and all the cities and states that surround that, that you have to make sure your ads get into. But I want you to see... This is just the kind of opening salvo, the first ad we've created to push back in Massachusetts. For those of you who already saw it on, you know, watching on YouTube or Rumble, just take it in. Close your eyes, kind of listen to the words if you're not driving and think about listening it that way, too, about how important the work of these PRCs are. They are not to be demonized. They're to be praised. They're on the front lines of changing and saving children. We can do all that legal work to overturn Roe versus Wade, but there have to be people ready to help women who are in tough situations make the best decisions at no cost. So just like our legal work is at no cost, these pregnancy resource centers provide all of this at no cost. Planned Parenthood doesn't like that either because they get either reimbursement money from states or people pay directly for them to have abortions. So they don't want this. They're like going up against a business. They're not just like the nonprofit world. So. Watch it. Really pay attention to the words. And this is just, again, part one of what we want to do in Massachusetts. There's going to be a lot more just to that campaign. We just have to have the resources to run it effectively. We don't want to be running a... $200,000 campaign up against 8 million. But if we can get to that 500,000-ish number, even though they spent 8 million, when you're the state, you kind of throw that money around in a lot of junk. We are going to use that money that you donate to us very specifically, very targeted, so it hits exactly the right people. So let's watch it. Let's listen.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'll never forget that day. scariest moment of my life. I had just started my business and then this. Pregnant? Really? I just thought about all of my dreams falling apart. I needed help, I needed answers. Places I heard of, they seemed to only offer one option. Then I found a pregnancy resource center and they talked to me about my options. She listened, she actually cared about me. No shame, no judgment. I'll never forget that day either. The day that I realized, maybe this wasn't the end of my dreams, but just the start of one I hadn't even imagined. He is here. To find a pregnancy resource center near you, go to choicebeginshere.org. 15th.
SPEAKER 04 :
So again, the website people go with, Choice Begins Here.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that's what the ad is doing because- Can people go there yet? Is that site ready? It is live. Yeah, but once again, if you want to support this project, you go to aclj.org slash savebabies. That link will give people resources to find pregnancy resource centers. So this isn't an ad speaking to our base, people that know about pregnancy resource centers, people that want to support that. because we're going to Massachusetts to counter the campaign by the state and this abortion group that is targeting what they call anti-abortion centers. They tell you to be on the lookout for words like hope and things of that nature because it could be a deceptive anti-abortion center.
SPEAKER 04 :
and we filed lawsuit there yeah against because the state's using state funds to support this group today so we're not just trying to run ads it is new for us but we we think it can be very effective to combat those uh this this advertising and also continue the legal battle simultaneously but we've got to have your financial support but will i know that it's important sometimes to hear from the individuals hear from the courts hear from who are up against here
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And so we filed this lawsuit saying, hey, you're using government money to target a viewpoint. It's viewpoint discrimination. Pro-life pregnancy resource centers. And they filed their response, their motion to dismiss. So they're trying to get it thrown out of court early before it can proceed. And they are giving the factual background in this motion to dismiss. And it says on March 22nd, 2023... The Massachusetts legislator enacted fiscal year 2023 supplemental budget, signed by Governor Healey on March 29, 2023, which provided that not less than $1 million shall be expended for a public awareness campaign to educate providers and the public about crisis pregnancy centers and pregnancy resource centers and the center's lack of medical services. Provided further that this campaign shall include information on the availability of providers across the Commonwealth that provide legitimate medical and family planning services. So they're only going to consider you legitimate if you offer abortion. It later goes on in their motion to dismiss where they talk about. The fact that these medical centers, they don't offer abortion. That's literally what they're complaining about, that they may provide ultrasounds and counseling, but they advertise themselves as full-service reproductive health care clinics, yet they do not provide abortion care or abortion referral. At the end of the day, it goes back to what we talked about with this Politico article. They are so brainwashed into thinking the only way to care for an unexpected pregnancy or anything of that nature is to have the option of abortion. And they will go so far as to use the taxpayers money of Massachusetts to try and slam the the pregnancy resource centers, these centers that give options, that give pre, postnatal care, that give diapers, meals, counseling to people that find themselves in a situation where they think they have no other choice. And they don't want you to have a choice. They want you to make one choice. What our campaign will do with your help at aclj.org slash savebabies is to show that there are choices and there are people to help you with those choices. Folks,
SPEAKER 04 :
we are in the final two weeks of our faith and freedom year in drive and some of you join this show at different parts of the show so i want to make sure it's clear we do thousands hundreds sometimes cases every year just this year alone we've done 175 pro-life legal matters that's just in 2024 and we still got you know days to go here to do more 197 free speech matters 142 religious liberty matters 126 legal actions battling the deep state and hundreds of others. You're talking about FOIAs. You're talking about the election integrity cases we have done this year. So you need to support the work of the ACLJ. We want to file even more cases to defend your rights. Donate today. ACLJ.org. We need you.
As the government races against time to finalize a short-term funding bill, Congressman Robert Adderhold sheds light on the ongoing negotiations and obstacles. Shifting to heartbreaking domestic issues, we discuss the tragedy at Abundant Life Christian School, emphasizing the urgent need for community vigilance in safeguarding our youth. Finally, delve into the legal territories of abortion drug regulation with Attorney General Ken Paxton's lawsuit against out-of-state prescriptions, marking a significant moment in cross-border reproductive health legislation.
SPEAKER 08 :
from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good afternoon. Great to have you on board. Welcome to this Tuesday edition of Washington Watch. I am Jody Heiss, the Senior Vice President here at the Family Research Council and President of FRC Action. As always, an honor to be filling in for Tony when needed. All right, we've got a lot coming up on the program today. Let me start by giving some of the highlights. A deal, it looks like, between Israel and Hamas is reportedly closer than ever. But certainly we've heard that before.
SPEAKER 20 :
Based on the remaining issues, we should be able to get to an agreement. We should be able to bridge the disagreements between the two parties. But that is not to say that we will. Because again, there have been times before where we were close. differences were bridgeable and ultimately we didn't get a deal.
SPEAKER 07 :
That was U.S. State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller earlier today. So just how close are they? Well, I'll be discussing this in just a few moments when I'm joined by Dr. A.J. Nolte of Regent University. And there was a Classified briefing today for members of the House Intelligence Committee regarding the drones that have been seen in New Jersey and elsewhere. Congressman Scott Perry, who is a member of that committee, plans to call in here in just a little bit so that he can share the latest that he can share coming out of that classified briefing. And a text now for the stopgap measure to fund the government. It's expected anytime. In fact, we've been looking for it for days now. What's in this?
SPEAKER 15 :
The CR is coming together. Bipartisan work is ongoing. We're almost there. We worked really hard to achieve consensus on a bill that responsibly funds the government into March of next year. We're going to take care of these obligations and get this done, and then we're going to go to work in unified government in the 119th Congress that begins in January.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, of course, that was Speaker Mike Johnson earlier today. So do we have the text? Well, I'll get the latest from Congressman Robert Adderhold, who's a member of the House Appropriations Committee. He'll be joining us a little bit later. And the investigation continues into the motives behind yesterday's school shooting at a Christian school in Madison, Wisconsin.
SPEAKER 11 :
We're looking into her online activity. We're asking anyone who knew her or who may have insights into her feelings leading up to yesterday to please contact the Madison area Crime Stoppers. Again, anyone who may have known her or knew what she was feeling or going through at that time.
SPEAKER 07 :
That was Madison Police Chief Sean Barnes giving an update this afternoon. And as in the case of other shootings of this nature, many people are asking if there were signs that were missed. Was there anything that could have been done to help prevent this individual from committing such a horrific act? Well, I'll be discussing this a little bit later when I'm joined by FRC's Meg Kilgannon. And then we'll conclude today's program discussing some developments on the life issue, including abortion drugs that may or may not have been offered by Kroger. We'll also discuss the court battles that are playing out over the abortion pill. So as always, we've got a lot to bring your way. We'll get to all of it as the program unfolds. But if you happen to miss any portion of today's program, Fear not. You can always catch it by going to our website, TonyPerkins.com, where certainly you can find not only this edition of Washington Watch, but past editions as well. And also lots and lots and lots of resources there for you. So be sure. to bookmark that page, tonyperkins.com. All right, let's jump into our first topic for the day. We are expecting Congressman Scott Perry to call in after votes, which are underway right now. But while we wait, I want to bring you up to speed on the latest regarding the hostage deal negotiations between Israel and Hamas. According to some reports, Israel is closer than ever to closing a deal. But just how close is that, especially considering how past talks have gone? Well, joining me now to discuss the latest is Dr. A.J. Nolte. He's the Chairman of Government Graduate Program and Director of the International Development Master's Program at Regent University. He's also the Director of the Institute for Israel Studies at Regent University. Dr. Nolte, always great to have you on Washington Watch. Welcome back. Jody, it's great to be here. Thanks for having me. You're very welcome.
SPEAKER 19 :
So what's the latest? What are you hearing? So what we're hearing today is that it does appear as though they are close. We're hearing that from both Palestinian sources and also from the current defense minister, Israel Katz, who used to be the foreign minister, and from other figures in the Israeli government that this is very close. and that they are expecting a deal that is going to easily pass both the security cabinet and the Knesset, because of course, just proposing the deal is not enough on the Israeli side, they'll have to pass it as well. Some of the necessary preconditions that the Israelis have said they want are, for example, access to the Philadelphia corridor. And for those who remember some of Israel's past military operations, this is that corridor that stretches across the border crossing from Egypt to Gaza. So not on the Israeli side of the border, but on the Egyptian side. And then the Netzerim corridor, this is a corridor that Israel has been using in Gaza to sort of move through the Gaza Strip and kind of maintain control of some of those highways to access different parts of the Strip for security purposes. And so those are not, Israel moving out of those areas from what we're being told so far does not seem to be on the table. And that has been a non-negotiable for the Israelis. And so what we'll be talking about is a staged release of hostages, beginning with what they call these humanitarian categories. So folks that are sick, female soldiers, perhaps children and the elderly, and then eventually culminating to full release in exchange for what looks like some sort of prisoners to be released from Israeli prisons. And then also, A ceasefire, of course, from Israel and Gaza. So that appears to be, from what we're hearing, what's on the table. Although, of course, with these negotiations, we've been very close a couple of times in the past. So it's hard to say exactly how close we are right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, listen, that's really encouraging news, everything that you just shared. But like you just said in your final comment there, we've been close before. How confident are you personally that this is really possibly going to happen this time?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, so let me give you the optimistic case. The optimistic case is that over the past several months, Hamas has systematically seen all of its potential international backers removed as justices from the table. So, of course, you have Israel's wildly successful operations against Hezbollah. You have the absolutely shocking fall of the Assad regime. It's hard to underestimate how impactful this shift is. And particularly that will complicate things for Iran, which is one of the main backers of Hamas right now in terms of their logistics and their ability to even support Hamas. And so the board has really flipped in a lot of ways. And of course, Israel has been very successful in its operations within Hamas. It seems like if you're an optimist that perhaps Hamas is more in survival mode than they have been in the past.
SPEAKER 07 :
Let's all be optimistic about this for sure. Right. Dr. Nolte, I'm sorry, I've got to go right now. But listen, I want to thank you for this update. It's extremely encouraging news. And I don't know of anybody that stays on top of what's happening in Israel any more than you. I want to thank you so much for taking time to join us today on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 19 :
Thank you so much. And I hope you find out what's going on with the drones.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's what we're going to do right now. We've just got a couple of minutes. So earlier today, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence received a classified briefing about the drones that have been flying over New Jersey and several other states. Well, what came out of that? Joining me now by phone is Congressman Scott Perry. He represents the 10th Congressional District from Pennsylvania. Congressman Perry, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks in your busy schedule for joining us.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, great to be with you, Jody. And, of course, look, I wish I could say you picked the right guy. But, of course, I'm on that committee. And what happens inside that secure compartmentalized information facility must stay inside there. But let me just say this. We had a lot of different representatives from the federal government. You can imagine the three-letter agencies that were in the room. I was not satisfied in the least with the information that we received. I actually think that in some cases we had more information than they did, and that's very concerning. I would say this. Look, you can't have officials saying that we don't know who's doing it, but there's nothing to be concerned about. Both those things can't be true at the same time, and that's what they're saying, and that's just inappropriate. You know, I've asked for the results of the FBI's investigation. Now, I don't know how long it's going to take me to get them. You know, of course, me asking, I don't think that that would be anything classified. But we want to see the American people want to trust in the information they're receiving. And, you know, when you see something with your own eyes, there better be a pretty darn good explanation for it. And don't just tell us that we're seeing things and that they didn't occur and that it's the same old same old that the government has done to us. And unfortunately, they've just lost all their credibility over the course of time here, as you know. And unfortunately, I left without any answers whatsoever in my opinion.
SPEAKER 07 :
So let me ask you this, and I have tried to emphasize that this was a classified briefing. And with that, I know you're very limited on what you can say. So let me approach it from this direction. What more would you like to know? I mean, what are some questions that you would like to have answered?
SPEAKER 09 :
The questions I would like to have answered are, have you positively identified any of these vehicles? and who is operating them, for what purpose? Have you located the individuals? Are they operating within any kind of guidelines? Jody, there are a lot of reports, and some come from the state police, from county sheriffs. I hate to say it this way, but it's one thing if the general public reports something, but when a state police officer reports something, having followed up on it and tried to intercept one of these things, or more than one of these things, to me that has credibility because someone in the position of authority has had eyes on and tried to do something about it. And for the FBI to not be able to speak to that, to me, is concerning. So, you know, again, those are some of the answers to the questions that I have. And, you know, are they coming on to the shore? Are they, you know, can you verify, can you validate that the sightings that many people are claiming are real? You know, those are simple questions that you think if you were going to a briefing you would have answers to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and it seems as though it just seems as though this is a clear cover up. I mean, these are drones. They don't have unlimited ability to fly. They take off from somewhere. They are battery operated. They can only last for so long and they go back to some place. This ought to be easy to know. And because of that, it makes you suspect. that they really do know something, they're just not telling us. And that in itself is extremely concerning. Congressman Scott Perry, always great to talk with you. I want to thank you. I know you have a ton of things happening right now on Capitol Hill, running every which way but loose. And we deeply appreciate you taking a few moments and joining us with this update.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you, Jody, and thank FRC. God bless you and your mission. And we've got to save the country, so let's get after that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Keep it up and Merry Christmas to you and your dear family. All right, friends, coming up, the latest on the continuing resolution, trying to deal with this government spending and keep it funded. Congressman Robert Adderhall will be joining me after the break to discuss the latest. So stay tuned. Much more coming your way right after the break.
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The throne of Jesus Christ is unchallenged. His name was never on the ballot to begin with, and it's never gonna be on the ballot. He's the King of Kings and he's the Lord of Lords, and nothing's gonna change that. And so our mission stays the same, preach the gospel, make disciples, get ready for heaven. In the meantime, that we're to advance the concerns of the kingdom of God here on earth.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Let's not be discouraged. Don't lose heart. Don't lose the faith. Stand now strong because the Lord has given us the great privilege of living in a time when our choices matter, when our lives matter, when our courage matters. So let's stand together and save this great country. God bless the United States of America.
SPEAKER 02 :
The American Republic has a freedom like no other. It has roots in the scriptures far more than any other heritage. And if we as followers of Jesus and conservatives don't defend it, who will?
SPEAKER 12 :
Neutrality is not an option. There are many Christians who believe that if we just keep our heads down, if we just don't say the wrong thing, that somehow we will come out of this unscathed. You're naive if you think that, because what they want from us is not our silence. What they want from us is our submission.
SPEAKER 01 :
Part of the dilemma of Christianity in our generation is that we've relied a little too much on human wisdom and human reasoning, human strength, human resource, and we've relied too little on the power of God and God's ability to open doors that we can't open and do things that we couldn't even hope to begin to do.
SPEAKER 13 :
This may not be an easy task, But we are living in a moment of challenge, but also a great opportunity. And we know always that we are not alone, that his spirit empowers us and protects us, and that he can do the unimaginable. Dobbs, after all, was never supposed to happen.
SPEAKER 06 :
Father, we thank you. You have entrusted us with this moment in history, and I pray that we would be found faithful, and that as a result of our faithfulness to you, that thousands, millions would come into the kingdom as they would experience the forgiveness of sin and the new life that is found only in Jesus Christ. Amen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your host Jody Heist sitting in today for Tony and glad to have you with us. All right. Congress has been scrambling to finalize a short term bill to keep the government open at least through March 14th. And the text of the bill was actually expected on Sunday. Then it was expected on Monday. And then it's carried over to today. So do we yet have the text for this bill? Joining me now to discuss this is Congressman Robert Adderhold. He's a member of the Appropriations Committee and the Values Action Committee representing the 4th Congressional District of Alabama. Congressman Adderhold, welcome to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thanks, Jody. Good to be with you. Thanks for having me on. Hey, listen, great to be with you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I was just going to say you were literally on the Capitol steps. We just had Congressman Perry on with us. He was in votes and you obviously have made it outside.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, we literally I just walked off the floor and I wanted to come on and be with you. And so good to be with you again. Good to see you again.
SPEAKER 07 :
Likewise. So give us the latest. Where's the C.R. right now?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, as of right now, I think there's still some final negotiations that are being settled. I have not – I've just, like I said, walked off the floor. I have not heard that a final version has been adopted. When I say adopted, approved of to move forward. But I would expect it would at any time. We've got to get this done. If the government shuts down, if we don't have the funding done by Friday night, uh so uh i would expect that this is just a matter of uh just making sure that they've got all the the dot the i's dotted the t's crossed and such as that to make sure uh at least i hope that's what it is but it's always this time of year as you well know you You've been here. You've served many years up here in the U.S. House of Representatives. And you know how things can come push comes to shove right here at the end. But obviously, I'm optimistic that we will get it done. But the speaker has been given a lot of grief lately that, you know, he's going ahead and not really doing an entire thing. omnibus right now, but I really am glad the Speaker's waiting until after the first of the year, because I don't want to cram something down the throats of the American people right here at the 11th hour at Christmas, and it'd be a bad bill. So if we need to wait a little bit to get a better bill and negotiate when Trump gets in office, then I'm all for that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and like you said, I mean, we both have been through this, you longer than me, but it always seems to happen at Christmas time where this type of thing happens. And generally, when you have big bills like this at Christmas, it's not good for the American people. Do you have any idea specifically what the holdup is? has been, what kind of last minute hurdles they're trying to overcome, and what are you hearing from your colleagues? Are they anxious about this or what are you hearing?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, one of the last holdups that has been, the major holdup that has been with this CR or this continuing resolution has been the assistance to agriculture. And obviously we need to protect the farmers in this country. I do not want to see a situation where we have to depend on other countries for our food. And so I've been very supportive of making sure that we do what we can to help farmers. Some on the other side of the aisle, or do not have a constituency that really sees as ag is important, and especially to farmers. But I can tell you, and you well know, being from Georgia, that farmers are really the backbone of this country. And we've got to make sure that they stay in business. Now, again, we understand it's all the free enterprise system, but at the same time, we could get all of our food from some other place in the world and maybe get it Sometimes cheaper, sometimes a little easier. But I fear of the day that the United States of America is depending on every other country in the world to bring us food supply because that puts us in a real vulnerable position.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, absolutely. And it's a lot better position as we are to be supplying food to the world rather than depending on others for our own food. So as we kind of wind down, the clock ticks towards the deadline here for the CR. What are your expectations looking ahead?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, you know, like I said, this is a continuing resolution. So all the probes bills, by and large, will be pushed into the new year, which I think is a good thing, because if I thought we could get a good deal right now, I would say, let's go for it. But if obviously I think the way the situation is with Biden still in the White House, with the Democrats still in control of the Senate, there's no way that we're going to get a good deal right now. So Let's just wait till after the first year. Now, a lot of my appropriation colleagues would disagree with me on that, but I'd never have been in favor of a bad bill just to get a bill done. But obviously, because this is the last train that leaves the station, so to speak, this is the last piece of legislation that will get out of Congress. They're attaching some things that we have to get done. And this aid to farmers is one of the things that I was just referring to that's been attached to it. And they want to make sure that we do try to help our farmers to make sure that they're not going bankrupt. And so if it takes a little time to do that, to protect some of our interests in this country, you know, I'd like to be finished and be back in Alabama. But obviously, we need to make sure we get the work done.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, first things first. So I take it from that. I mean, Tony, what you're saying sounds like there is some encouragement for our viewers and listeners. Is that correct that you are confident? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, I am optimistic that we will get an agreement soon. done within the matter. I think they'll have the final text, I would say, probably by tonight. But of course, obviously, you never say always or never up here because you never know what the case may be. But I'm optimistic that by Friday night at midnight, when the CR or when the current CR runs out, then we will have a continued resolution in place to fund us through at least probably until March of next year.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good to hear. Congressman Robert Aderhold, always great to see you and thank you for your leadership in Washington and beyond and the Values Action Team supporting our Christian values. Just as we have 30 seconds or so, how can we be praying for you and your colleagues right now?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, well, in this new Congress, really be praying that this new Congress gets off to a good start because obviously we, as conservatives, we're in a unique position having control of the House and the Senate and also the White House. So we've got to make sure that we don't squander this opportunity. So I'm very optimistic that we can do a lot of good things for the American people. The I think that praying for the president as he leads from the White House, but also the House and the Senate as we lead as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Congressman Robert Adderhold from Alabama, and thanks for stepping off on the steps of the Capitol to talk with us. Don't go away, folks. Much more coming up, specifically the shooting in Madison, Wisconsin, right after the break.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to have you joining us. I'm Jody Heiss. An honor to be sitting in today for Tony. All right. Yesterday, as I'm sure you are aware by now, Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin, became the latest school to become a victim of the school shooting. Tragically, that's the 83rd this year. Unbelievable. And although very much also unusual, the shooter in this case was a female student of the school. So what's behind this epidemic of violence in our schools, both in secular and Christian, I might add? Well, here now to discuss this heart-wrenching story is Meg Kilgannon. She's a senior fellow for education studies here at the Family Research Council. Meg, welcome back to Washington Watch. Appreciate you joining us.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thanks for having me, Tony. I mean, Jody. Sorry.
SPEAKER 07 :
Close enough, but a far stretch from Tony. Listen, so what do we know so far, Meg, about this shooter?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, she was a 15-year-old girl. She was a student at the school. It seems that her family, she's from a broken home. Her parents are divorced and remarried, and it seems from the manifestos that have been posted that are allegedly by her, you know, it's early in the process, so what do we really know? We're, you know, not a lot, but... But like so many of these other cases, this seems to be a family in crisis. And in a way, it could be really anyone's family. She wrote about feeling very alone. And it seemed that she spent a lot of time alone and a lot of time alone. on the internet and she had come to sort of idealize other school shooters and so this is just a such a tragic situation and right here at the holidays you know I hope that that the families that are listening to this show and families everywhere will spend the holidays with their kids really engaging with them And really looking honestly at your own family and saying, is there a child of mine who's feeling left out, who's feeling alone? And how much time are they in their room behind closed doors? And Do I need to just go in that room with them and just sit with them and be with them?
SPEAKER 07 :
A great point. You know, this really is such a heart-wrenching story. And the manifesto, allegedly, as you say, it's just heartbreaking to read some of the things that she describes. But for those parents who think that a Christian school is all they need to try to make sure that their kids are going to grow up okay. What do you say to them? Hats off to them for trying to put their kids in a Christian school. Of course. But what else would you say to them right now?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I mean, I think, you know, I'm a parent, you're a parent, we're always stressed, right? We're always rushed and in a hurry. And we're always looking for help. We always want the support of the community to raise our kids, right? And so it's easy to put our children in an environment, in a school situation, and think that we have a box checked, that they'll be fine. Because, you know, we're all on the same team here. And It really doesn't remove, as Tony does say, it doesn't remove the responsibility from you even though you delegate the authority to others. That isn't enough. It's great. It's a huge advantage over other situations in a child's life, but it will never replace the relationship that we'll have with our own children and that our children will have with each other if we're blessed with more than one child. So that family life, I mean, Christ came to us into a family. He could have come as king of the universe, right? But he chose to come humbly into a family.
SPEAKER 07 :
And he adopted us into his family. Yes, exactly. So what do you make, Meg, of the fact that now we have at least two schools, Covenant School Shooter and now the Abundant Life Christian School Shooter. Both are females. I mean, what is driving that? the developing trend where even females are expressing more and more violence in ways that we certainly have not seen in the past.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I think that this is a byproduct of the culture that we're living in. You know, we are aware that we're in an overly sexualized culture and women are behaving differently now than maybe a generation ago in terms of that kind of behavior and the same is true in terms of violence. We have a pornified culture and we also have an incredible glorification of violence in our culture. Both are a function of being in a culture of death rather than a culture of life. But the result of that is going to be that it's not just going to be the boys who will take these aggressive actions, but you're going to see this behavior adopted by the girls. And that really, for me as a woman, is very, very chilling and very sad.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is. Meg, we've got less than a minute. Real quickly, you and the Pray Vote Stand Summit in 2022, you were part of a panel with an individual named Wendell that you said made a powerful statement. Real quickly, what was that statement? And just highlight it for us.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, he said that, you know, we live for 50 years. We did a great job of protecting unborn children in the womb and that we need to keep our attention on children and make sure we're protecting them outside the womb. And I think he's exactly right. We do. Our children need our full attention, regardless of their age.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's a fight for life, both in the womb and beyond, outside the womb. And this type of tragic ending just highlights that more and more. Meg Kilgannon, FRC Senior Fellow for Education Studies. Always, it is an honor to have you on the program. Thank you so much. And listen, thank you for mistaking me as Tony. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Merry Christmas, Jody.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that was my Christmas present from you. Thank you so much. All right, friends, don't go anywhere. Much more coming your way. Texas is going after some out-of-state doctors that are prescribing dangerous abortion drugs to Texans. Wow, what a bold step, a powerful step. This is a story absolutely you need to hear. We'll bring it your way right after the break.
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Thank you so much for joining us today on Washington Watch. Welcome back. I am your host today, Jody Heiss. An honor to be sitting in for Tony. All right, before I bring in my next guest, I want to encourage you to join us here at Family Research Council as we are shining the light of biblical truth right here in Washington, D.C., and literally across our nation. We all know this is a dangerous time in which we're living. And we are now, of course, in the midst of a leadership transition, as well as a lame duck session of Congress. And FRC is serving literally as a watchman on the wall. We're here protecting faith, family, and freedom from multiple attacks from the left. And now, catch this, underscore this in your mind. Thanks to a $1.5 million challenge match, You now have the opportunity that every gift that you give to FRC from now to the end of the year, December 31st, everything you give will be doubled. Folks, you can have twice the impact. That's a huge opportunity. And so I'm asking you to stand with us here at FRC as literally we are here as though God has given us a prophetic voice. for biblical truth, and we ask you to join us in that. You can do so by texting the word LIGHT l-i-g-h-t light to six seven seven four two and together let's have an eternal impact and thank you for helping us out all right yesterday frc's news and commentary publication the washington stand which if you are not a part of that you need to let the washington stand be a regular diet for your source of news but yesterday the washington stand reported on how sam's club and kroger had quietly started offering abortion drugs at their pharmacies. Well, the Washington Stand reported on it yesterday, and guess what? Kroger is saying otherwise now. Wow. Huge praise for that. Joining me now to discuss this is Jared Bridges, who is the editor-in-chief of the Washington Stand. Jared, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to have you. Glad to be here. Great work. Let me just tell you, way to go. So I kind of gave a little bit of a summary. Please elaborate further for us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, Jody, it used to be the most shocking thing you had to worry about when you were at the grocery store was what you were going to see in the tabloid section at the checkouts. You know, was Bill Clinton going to be abducted by aliens or something like that? Something like that. The good old days. Yeah, those were the good old days. But not anymore. The question remains, do people have to worry about their grocery store, their local grocery store, selling abortion drugs? And that's what was at issue here. The pro-life group, Live Action, had reported that Sam's Club and Kroger were offering abortion drugs. We thought that's something our readers would want to know about as well. So we looked into it, verified that indeed, and we pulled up Kroger's website and they They listed mifepristone on their website, and it said it was used as – this is not a headache drug. It even said that its use was to end pregnancies. So we wrote about it and pushed out the article. Then we heard from Kroger and one of their head of communications wrote to us and said the Kroger Company family of pharmacies do not carry Mifepristone nor do we dispense it. So we're kind of scratching our heads a bit on that. So we sent them a link to their website where the drug was being offered. And then they told us that the – that it was listed on their the kroger health savings club site in error and it has since been removed and they and reiterated that they do not carry mifepristone and they requested being removed from from the article uh which which okay we we put that information in there and got that out to our our readers at that point that is incredible you know that is uh
SPEAKER 07 :
It's hard to buy that it was just an accident. I mean, how do you put something like that on your website, describing the drug in detail like that? But listen, incredible work, Jared, from you and your team there at the Washington Stand and the communication back and forth. How are you going to be following up on this story now?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I mean, we've since verified that it is indeed no longer there. So what they've told us is that they currently do not carry it, and we will keep watching to see if they will.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jared Bridges, editor-in-chief of The Washington Stand. Tell everybody real quickly how they can become a regular follower and reader of The Washington Stand.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you can go find us on any of the social platforms. You can go to WashingtonStand.com, get the email, have all the articles sent to you every day. And, you know, that's where we go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jared Bridges, thank you so much. Great work. Keep it up. Thank you for joining us on Washington Watch. Thanks, Jerry. All right. Great news, folks. And I'm telling you, you need to be a regular reader of The Stand. It is fantastic. Publications, multiple ones come out every day and from a biblical worldview giving you the news. All right. Let's go on to my next guest. Late last week, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton filed a lawsuit against Dr. Margaret Daley Carpenter. Now, Carpenter is a New York-based doctor. So why in the world would the state of Texas be suing an out-of-state doctor? Well, it just so happens that Dr. Carpenter is the founder of the Abortion Coalition for Telemedicine, and that group prescribed abortion drugs to a pregnant Texas woman who later suffered serious complications. So here now to break down the legalese of all of this is Dr. Chris Gasek. Chris is FRC's Senior Fellow for Regulatory Studies and is also an attorney himself. Chris, welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good to see you, Jody.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so this is pretty big news. Let's just start the legal grounds for Attorney General Paxson from Texas suing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the first the basis of just keep in mind that this is a civil action. It's not a criminal action. Right. So she's in he's in court suing this doctor from New York. And there are two basic reasons for this. On a very basic level, she's just practicing medicine in the state of Texas without being licensed in the state of Texas. She has no license there and she has no telemedicine license. The second part of this and probably the more impactful is that Texas has laws against physicians providing abortifacients to women in the state. She's violating both of these provisions and both of the provisions allowed for civil penalties. So the state is going after her to get an injunction to prevent her from doing more of this. But also there's $100,000 per event fine that's possible. They're asking for that. And then they're also asking for attorney's fees and different fees related to the litigation.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow, $100,000 per incident. That could add up pretty quickly. All right, so how in the world was Dr. Carpenter caught in this interstate abortion pill scheme? How did she get caught?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's really interesting. So there's a 20-year-old woman in Collier County. I think it's Collier County, Texas. And she got the pills from the doctor and had an abortion. The abortion didn't, you know, it went awry. And remember that one in 25 of these chemical abortions will send a woman or the patient to the emergency room so that's what happened to her and she ended up needing to go she's having a severe reaction excessive bleeding she had to go to an emergency room she told her her boyfriend she was not married to take her there and the boyfriend didn't know anything about the pregnancy and was suspicious of all this he went back and found out found the drugs the abortion drugs and then He started the process of, I guess, reported it to the police. So I'm not sure what all was going there. But she is important thing to remember here is aside from the dynamics of the couple, she was an you know, she was an extremist. Right. She was a case where the abortion went awry and was one of these, you know, one in 25 women who needed help. emergency care. So the doctor in New York prescribed pills that sent somebody to an emergency room in Texas.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow, amazing. All right, so 1 in 25, that sounds like a pretty high risk medication. So while you're on that, just take a moment to remind our audience of some of the dangers that mifepristine poses to people.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, mifepristone, the regimen, there are two drugs. It essentially is inducing a miscarriage, right? So as the FDA has noted, one in 25 women have sufficient complications that they have to go and have some sort of post. After taking the pills, you have to go and seek emergency care, right? And that usually has to do with, it can be things like incomplete abortion, excessive bleeding, I mean, really excessive, horrible bleeding. And then, I mean, fever, these kinds of things. So imagine all of the issues related to having a miscarriage, except that they've been created in this artificial environment. And most of the times, for example, here's another thing that the pro-life doctors have always complained about from the FDA process from the very beginning. The APLOG doctors and all these folks have always wanted the abortionist to have admitting privileges at a hospital for their patient so that they could take them in and admit them, right? Well, this woman's in New York, this doctor. The patient's in Texas. And this is a classic example of this woman basically had no care. She's relying on her boyfriend to take her over. He doesn't know anything about the case. I mean, she could have been really, really sick, right? So this is, I mean, just in every conceivable way, suboptimal, you know, very poor medical treatment. Let's put it that way.
SPEAKER 07 :
So the part, at least, of the press release that came out of the office of Attorney General Paxton said, It seemed to indicate to me that they are serious about this $100,000 penalty for each violation. Do you think that they really are serious about this? Are they going to try to make an example, if you will, out of Dr. Carpenter?
SPEAKER 03 :
well i don't think i don't think is in a yes i think they're very serious but i wouldn't put it in terms of making example of her she committed a crime in the state of texas so they're enforcing the law of texas right you know right mean it's uh... it's more than that they did This doctor did something serious, you know, seriously wrong, and it affected a person in their state. It could have ended up very badly. And, you know, they have to protect the health and well-being of the state of Texas. That's why you have state medical licensure laws, right? So these people are just kind of blowing past these pro-abortion doctors. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
So, yeah, so I guess part of, if we're going to use, and it's probably a bad choice of words, making an example. Yeah, I understand. Part of the example of this would be to, number one, communicate to other potential doctors doing the same thing that Texas is going to enforce their law. But secondly, if you as a doctor out of state are not familiar with the law of Texas, you certainly are now.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're going to find out more about it, especially if – I mean if you're a doctor, one of the things that I'm pretty sure you're pretty certain about if you're conscientious is where am I licensed to practice? What are the boundaries of that? What can I do in telemedicine? So this is part of the occupational requirements of doing your job. You really need to know that. what you're all about, and this woman knows what she's all about, this medical doctor, this doctor in New York. I mean, she is part of an organization that is focused on getting abortions into the, medical and chemical abortions through the mail into these states that have laws that are restrictive. So this is not something that she, she completely was aware of what she was doing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and not only Texas, but as you just said, there are other states, too. So she may be in hot water all across the country. She could be. So, yeah, she could be. And very likely, I mean, you would think that they sent these drugs not only to individuals in Texas, but all over the country. So maybe this is going to spur other AGs to do something similar.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, remember, real quickly, the Comstock Act, the federal act, right, is in place here about mailing abortifications across state lines. Now, The Biden Justice Department, the Office of Legal Counsel, wrote an opinion that a lot of people think was very poorly done, saying that the Comstock Act doesn't apply to these medical abortion pills and everything like that. I think one of the things that's going to be important in considering – Pam Bondi and the Justice Department team that Trump puts up is, how are they going to analyze this? Because it's not just pro-lifers who realize that this was a poor analysis of the Comstock Act. So anyway, go back to you. There's also another vehicle by which this kind of thing could be addressed, but this by the federal government, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Less than a minute left, Chris. Do you anticipate more doctors could be sued by Paxson or other pro-life state attorney generals? Absolutely. Absolutely. So this is coming. Yes. Wow. Well, listen, I can't thank you enough. Chris Kasich, it is always an honor to have you on Washington Watch. It's always great to run into you in the halls of FRC. I always enjoy seeing you, too. You are one of those guys who seems to know so much about so many different issues taking place, and it's always an honor. Thanks again for coming on. It's always good to see you. FRC's Senior Fellow for Regulatory Affairs, Chris Kasich. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. All right. Have a great Christmas. All right, friends, that wraps up this edition of Washington Watch. And I feel like we've been going about 90 miles an hour from the very beginning, getting people running off the house floor and one topic after another. But that is our mission. That is our purpose, to keep you informed as to what's happening in our country, specifically as it relates to issues of biblical significance. And that's our commitment to you. Thank you for joining us today on Washington Watch. Have a fantastic evening. We'll see you tomorrow right here on Washington Watch.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Tuesday. It is the Tuesday, December the 17th, one week in front of Christmas Eve edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a fee-based only nationwide money management and financial planning firm. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we are off to a slow start in the market, stumbling out of the gate. The Dow down 213, bah humbug, that's a half a percent. Then we have the NASDAQ down 96 points. It's improved a little bit. It's down half a percent also. Then we've got the Russell 2000 down 16 points, which is 70 basis points. The S&P 500 is down 26 to 40. That's a 40 basis point drop. But there's no stopping Bitcoin. Just no stopping Bitcoin. Last time I looked, it is up 2,168. 2,168. to a new all-time high of 107.824, 107.824. Meanwhile, the bond market is fast asleep today. It is totally flat, really, at 4.40%. Crude oil is pretty much stuck in the $70 area. Gold is pretty much stuck in the $26.50 area. There hasn't been much movement out of those for quite some time. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with a second witness to what we saw over Charleston last night, Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. We were at a Christmas party, Barry, last night over at the Citadel College, Citadel. Uh-huh. And we walk out and we see a couple of things flying, zooming over our heads. I figured it's either from Santa Claus, Elon Musk, or Putin. And I'm hoping it's not from Putin, okay? I'm hoping it's from Santa Claus, actually. It ends up it was a couple of missiles, but it was after dark, so that added a little bit of intrigue. And, of course, with all of this hoopla over the drone sightings and everything, I was kind of inclined to hit the ground and get under my SUV. I didn't do that. I was wearing a nice suit. My wife was dressed up nice. But, yeah, it was SpaceX just having fun with us. Two of them.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was two of them. It was an interesting video. I mean, we videoed it. We walked out of a restaurant and looked up and just happened to see this huge vapor trail, wide thing kind of going across the sky. And eventually it goes across the sky fairly quickly and eventually just kind of goes into the moon. And we're both like... I don't know what that was, but it wasn't a drone. And then I sent the video. I sent it to you and Jeff, and I sent it to my brother-in-law.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he's like, yeah, it's probably too fast for a drone.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. And the vapor trail part was wild. And it turns out it was my brother-in-law sent me. He said this took off at 7.51 p.m., I think. And he's like, it's probably what you saw. And it turns out it was.
SPEAKER 03 :
That other vapor trail that we saw yesterday during the day was Tesla stock, which is hitting another new high today. We made a good buy there right when it broke out. That's why watching these charts every day is important. Today it's hitting $480,000. It's now $1.5 trillion, and Elon Musk net worth looks like those vapor trails last night, $480 billion. Now, billionaires is one thing, but half a trillion now he almost is worth. So look, hey, he's having a merry good holiday here so far. Now we've got a down day in the market, but I want to make a couple of comments here. The NASDAQ hit a new all-time high yesterday and it looks like that SpaceX vapor trail. The Dow on the other hand, which I called kind of a temporary top here recently and put in a little hedge in the trading portfolio. on DXD, which is two times double down on the Dow. The Dow's down for nine days in a row now. Most people don't realize that. A lot of times there's a divergence. The Dow's got a totally different makeup and chemistry from the NASDAQ. And they can diverge from time to time. NASDAQ's being carried higher by Tesla. It's being carried higher by CrowdStrike. It's being carried higher by Google. It's being carried higher by Amazon. All of those stocks are breaking out. It's not being carried higher by NVIDIA, which is actually breaking its support line today, which is kind of surprising. I'm glad we cut our exposure to it. Now, we still have about a 5%, I think 6% position overall in our premier growth. and in our dividend portfolio, but it's just really surprising to see. It's about, to me, it's about as mystifying as those drones over Jersey is the performance of an NVIDIA. I mean, it goes into the Dow, and that seems to be the deal killer. That seems to be the kiss of death. Usually it's when Cathie Woods buys the stock, it goes to heck. But this time it seems to be, you know, the Dow seems to be a bit of a curse for stocks anyways. That's where we stand today.
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Yeah, it's been interesting because you've had Broadcom, Palantir I think is kind of pulling back today. But you've had a lot of AI names kind of push forward over the last week. And NVIDIA, which has been leading that whole group for 18 months or more, It's kind of taking a pause.
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More than a pause, a screeching halt and a downward slant. Look, I don't know if it's breaking support today. My issue is we have 400%, 500% gains in it. If I sell it now, I'm going to get some mad calls in April. You know, when people have to do their taxes and say, how come I'm stuck with this big capital gain? Well, you know, that's a good thing to have a capital gain in a stock. You're going to have it at some point in time. But you would also hate to give up that capital gain. So I have that the way we've got. I'm hoping to make it two more weeks to the 1st of January. Then I don't really have that tax issue to deal with. because, you know, if you sell it in January, you can think way ahead until 16 months later, even if most people don't pay their taxes until October these days. So that's one thing you've got to worry about. But anyways, more records for the NASDAQ as the Dow struggles with the losing streak. And, you know, just watching the charts every day, I saw that Dow topping out, and I said, you know, I think the Dow at 45,000 is going to take a little pause here. And just to protect some of the big gains in the trading portfolio, which had a huge day yesterday. I said, I'm going to put in some hedges here. And the first one I did was DXD. It's just two times short the Dow. Simple as that. If the Dow goes down 3% or 4% or 5% in a correction, it'll go down 8%, 9%, 10%. It'll go up 8%, 9%, 10%. And so far, that's been a good hedge, DXD against the Dow. We have a valuation problem. There's no question about it. The Fed is meeting today. Today is the first of a two-day meeting. come back like in March or something. I don't know how many weeks of vacation they get over there to government. But they will be done for the year. We do know that with their Fed meetings. They better give us that quarter point cut tomorrow, and he better be pretty kind in what his comments are, or you will see a Grinch stole Christmas diner reaction in the market. Yeah, January 30th and 31st, by the way, will be the next one. Oh, good. Okay. And then, you know, my wife and I are flying out later today, later this afternoon, after I get all my charts looked at and headed to New York City. We're going to be part of the closing bell ceremony at the NASDAQ tomorrow. Okay, we're not opening the... The bell on the New York Stock Exchange. We get kind of second shift, but that's okay. I'm really happy that we were invited by Granite Shares ETFs. An innovator like myself, a disruptor like myself, who would have ever thought of a single stock ETF? A family of single stock ETFs and others, which is almost an oxymoron. A single stock ETF. Crazy. But they're leveraged, obviously. That's the twist there. You can't do that in an IRA unless you're buying an ETF like the ones from... from granite chairs so anyways i'm looking forward to that new york's a beautiful city this time of year christmas time a very special place to go as long as i don't get uh you know mugged on the subway i'm not going on the subway i will not go down there on that subway for all the money in the world. Anyways, continuing high rates. We're at 4.40%. I saw one firm justifying the 22.5 times forward P, saying that's no problem at all. That was UBS. I think they were the ones saying that back in 2000, only they were under a different name then. It was Payne Weber. Oh, don't worry about the high P.E. ratios of the NASDAQ, they said. Then the NASDAQ went down 79% after that. Now they're saying don't worry about the 22.5 forward P.E. on the S&P right now. I'm worried. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show on this Tuesday, December the 17th. Quantum. Quantum. The word quantum. A discrete quantity of energy proportional in magnitude to the frequency of the radiation it represents. Or... A required or allowed amount, especially an amount of money, legally payable in damages. The court must determine the quantum of compensation too. Okay. Two opposite ends of the spectrum right there. Yes. You know, quantum in simple terms is the smallest discrete unit of a phenomenon. For example, a quantum of light is a photon. Okay, I remember that. And a quantum of electricity is an electron. I remember that. Quantum comes from Latin, meaning an amount or how much. If something is quantifiable, then it can be measured. Okay, now, I mean, quantum physics. Again, this is a big deal. The modern use of quantum in physics was coined by Max Planck. I do remember learning about Max Planck in high school in 1901. He was trying to explain black body radiation and how objects change color after being heated. Instead of assuming that the energy was emitted in a constant wave, he posed that the energy was emitted in discrete packets or bundles. These were termed quanta of energy. This led him to discovering Planck's constant, which is a fundamental universal value. Yes, I do remember Planck's constant. Does this all bring back memories to you, Barry?
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Yeah, some of this I kind of tapped out when I got halfway through chemistry, too. I'm like, you know what, I'm... I ate it up. I'm going to stick on the finance side. Physics I remember a little bit more just because it's tied to finance to a certain extent. I think it was, wasn't it Einstein that said what the eighth wonder of the world is compound interest, right? That's right.
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Or compounding. Yes.
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Well. Physics a little more tied to the interest. tied to finance versus when you're naming off some of these new elements and things that are being mined in certain parts of China.
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Well, the reason I bring this up is because these quantum stocks that I added to my app recently... This whole craze kind of began when Amazon announced that they were investing in quantum stocks or quantum technologies.
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Yeah, they made an advancement, or they say, in quantum computing and the quantum chip.
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And they listed four quantum stocks, Seeking Alpha did. I added them all to my database, alerted all my subscribers to this. Some of them took some shares in those. I've just watched them mesmerize. Basically, quantum computing is chaos. Q-U-B-T, Q-U-B-T yesterday, oh my gosh, look at it again today. It was up like 60% yesterday, it's up another 25% today. And I have to admit to you, I miss these stocks as far as investing in them, okay? Okay, the other one, D-Wave. D-Wave is QBTS. QBTS was up like 45%, 60%. It's up 6% again today.
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Essentially anything with the name Quantum.
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You know, we're getting into a territory. The last big bubble we had, was uh 2020 2021 2021 was the covid post covid year uh when all of this uh way out there on the horizon uh you know future technology stock earnings or no earnings just went absolutely nuts and And we're seeing that again right now. And, you know, obviously the year after that was not good for the market at all. 2022, 2023 was rough. No, 2022 was rough for the market because you've also had the Fed. So I'm seeing, I'm definitely seeing bubbles. I mean, you see the bubble in Tesla. You see the bubble in Bitcoin and these quantum stocks. So anyways, I'm just bringing that to your attention. Now, are they going to be big earnings growth companies at some point in time? That's possible. But right now, they're out there in space. In the future, maybe someday, they'll have some explosive sales and earnings. But they are starting to take off a little bit here. And we're keeping our eye on it. And then another one that got caught up in all of this is when Google revealed its new quantum computing chip, dubbed Willow. which led to another spark in the quantum computing stocks and in the stock of Google, which has been breaking out here recently. And it's hitting a new all-time high. I think that, yes, 197.74. It did hit 200 this morning. And now all of a sudden, Alphabet Google is at $2.42 trillion in market capitalization. Okay, right now we have the Fed meeting that's going to begin here today. The dollar is up slightly ahead of the Fed meeting. J.P. Morgan expects 25 basis points and three rate cuts in 2025. I don't think they're going to go overboard with the rate cuts next year. I really don't. I think they're going to be pretty cautious. especially with the tariff effect. I mean, if those tariffs are placed on those imports, that's going to be inflationary, and that could really pause the Fed, and they may want to wait and see. We still have... Fairly hot inflation, believe it or not. No, we're not double digits. We're not 8%. We're not 9%. We're 3%. We're still over 3%, and the PPI is still coming in too high.
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Over their target.
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Yes.
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Over their target of 2%. And three rate cuts, right? I mean, you could probably argue that that gets us close to that quote-unquote neutral rate anyway. I would expect them, as you've mentioned, to be cautious early in the year. At some point, they may want to get back to neutral. I don't think they're going to be in any hurry necessarily to get there.
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Now it looks like shoppers are buying before the tariffs come along maybe. U.S. retail sales climbed more than expected in November. You know, if you're into French cheese or anything imported from Canada or Mexico, you know, those things are bound to get tariffs on January the 21st or January the 20th.
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I think Brown's Foreman is getting hit pretty hard today and has been because of the type... You can use that as an example of a stock that will be hurt via tariffs on both ends, actually.
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The Mexican beers, the Mexican tequilas, the Canadian whiskeys, etc. So anyways, the non-store retailer category dazzled with 1.8% month-over-month and 9.8% year-over-year growth. So... The consumer has still got either a credit card or cash or whatever. And still, yeah, Bitcoin, the Bitcoin effect, still buying. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. A little update here on the market. We've got the Dow down 259 right now and the NASDAQ down 150 right now.
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That's three-quarters of a percent on the NASDAQ. Don't be too worried, however. The NASDAQ hit a new all-time high yesterday. The small caps are now starting to go south. They're down 1.2%. We have a little hedge there in the trading portfolio with TWM, which is double short the small caps. And that small cap rally, which took off after Trump, was elected. It lasted about two weeks, and then it started to fall apart, and it continues to fall apart, and that's why we're picking on it a little bit on the inverse side as a hedge. And the NASDAQ right now is down 80 basis points, and the S&P is down 60. I don't really know what to point to here. I The retail sales numbers came out. So there was something in overnight trading. I don't know. But the NASDAQ hit a new all-time high yesterday. And Bitcoin also is hitting a new high here today.
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And rate expectations haven't changed either. We're still sitting kind of where we were yesterday in terms of a 95% chance or more of a Fed cut, 25 basis point cut tomorrow. My thought is retail sales would actually – be a good number. It means folks are still spending money. I don't really see that as necessarily inflationary per se. Does it mean the Fed may not need to stoke the fire of the economy? I don't think they're cutting to stoke the fire of the economy. I think they're cutting rates to make sure they're not behind the ball as they move forward.
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It just keeps it going, feeding some more coal into the engine. Now, there's a lot of turmoil around the world. How many governments have... fallen here recently. South Korea, impeachment there. Obviously, Syria fell. The French government, Macron. Germany had a no-confidence vote for him yesterday. And now Canada, you know, she's pretty well-known, that Freeland. She was one of the World Economic Forum all-stars. running the uh... can a helping run the akit canadian economy and all of a sudden they're gonna have a much bigger deficit than originally planned and her mccrone had it out no no mccrone trudeau and as she had quit and that your does in trouble himself and there's talks of him resigning he wouldn't kiss the ring of uh... trump i don't think she was happy about that so everywhere you look you know if there's some turmoil out there there's a lot of the vision I'm going to use the word division. There's a lot of division in the world right now, including here in the United States, obviously.
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Yeah, and the growth. I mean, I read an article last week. The growth, kind of that growth focus of the Labour Party in the U.K. has kind of come under fire because they haven't had any growth. You mentioned Germany's issues from a growth standpoint.
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Canada. Now, the pendulum swings, okay, every four years, every eight years. It just seems like the pendulum is swinging back pretty hard towards conservative principles than the way out left radical principles, far left principles. And that just seems to be kind of the way the world is going. Now, TikTok CEO, he kisses the ring. Trump likes TikTok. I don't know that Trump is going to ban TikTok. I think he's going to figure out something. He's talked about not banning it. Exactly. And so TikTok CEO Shu-Zi Chu met U.S. President Trump at Mar-a-Lago. Boy, that Mar-a-Lago is a happening place.
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I haven't got my invitation.
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I am getting my bell rung on the NASDAQ tomorrow, but I would like to go to Miralago at some point in time. What a sightseeing event that is. People-watching event. Trump said he'll take a look at TikTok. He says, I have a warm spot in my heart for TikTok. So anyways, I have a hunch that they're going to work something out. And, you know, I don't think TikTok is under China control anymore. Okay, RoboTaxi. The RoboTaxi race continues. Alphabet's Waymo picks Tokyo for its first international RoboTaxi testing. their self-driving vehicle unit. And, of course, Google's had a lot of good news recently with that Willow chip. GM dropping out of the robo-taxi race and other things over there, their advance they're making with their AI endeavors. Japan will be the first international destination to test its robo-taxis as the company moves towards expanding beyond the U.S. Waymo will partner with Tokyo's largest taxi operator, Nihon Katsu, and taxi app go to bring its fleet to the city the cars will initially be operated manually by nihon katsu drivers to map key areas of tokyo so anyways there's uh... some progress being made in the robo taxi race The race is on, and it's down to three, really. Again, it's Waymo, which is Google, and it's Tesla, obviously, which a lot of people think that will be the next big catalyst for Tesla. And then the smaller one is Aurora AUR, which has been pretty perky lately as a stock. They bought, I think, Uber's plans to make a car. Uber backed out of making a car, but they would obviously benefit from RoboTaxi. Unfortunately, Uber was teamed up with GM on the RoboTaxi race, and GM totally dropped out of the race. Okay, an interesting nuclear stock, Nano. We've talked about this, Nano, Nano. I grew up watching Robin Williams. I don't think I was a little kid. I was probably a young father or something watching Robin Williams on Nano, Nano. Nuclear Energy is the name of the company. They have made a joint submission to a New York State Energy Research and Development Authority concerning the development of advanced nuclear technologies in New York State. And I still think, I mean, you're talking about incubator stocks. This burgeoning, rebounding, once really out of favor, big time out of favor, no nukes has rebounded. And now it's kind of the darling of energy after we went off on the solar tangent, the wind tangent. And then all of a sudden AI came along and it demands much more energy than solar and wind can ever provide. and now we're talking nuclear and small nuclear so anyways uh... nano is in there and and he they've joined up with did you host d g h by uh... and putting together plans uh... for uh... you know nuclear new york on uh... smaller reactors instead of these big massive nuclear reactors would take years and years and years to to to uh... to construct Okay, MS Wealth is saying ease up on the MAG-7 Trump trade. Well, I say it depends on the stock. Tesla's going gangbusters. Google's going gangbusters. But there is an ETF called FANGD, F-N-G-D, F-N-G-D, which is three times bull. The FANG stocks, that thing's been flying lately to new highs, $695 per share. It's off a little bit today as there's a little bit of profit taking. But I use FANG. I look at that every day. Actually, it's FANGU. FANG is the inverse version of it, F-N-G-U. So it's F-N-G-UP. And FNGD is FNG down. FANG UP hit a new high yesterday. It's backing off today. It's down 4.3%, but it's leveraged 3 to 1. on those fang stocks you'd have to look up you can look up the components of it the fang index has changed over time and i think it's broadened out to include a lot more stocks than just the original four uh... private markets poised to surpass twenty trillion by twenty thirty this is another area of the market that i think is very much a bubble There's so many private equity funds buying up private companies that I don't think it's going to end well because now they're paying up for some of these private companies ridiculous prices. Kind of like, okay, we've got this money to spend. We've got to go find private companies. That's now become a $20 trillion market. Well, $20 trillion by 2030, according to BlackRock. So that's another bubble to be careful of. We're going to come back and take a look inside the market and talk about a couple other stocks here. When we come back, it's the Best Stocks Now show. And welcome back to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. I'm going to begin with the battleground stock right now. It seems to be NVIDIA. It's threatening to roll over. It has broken its support. I've had a line drawn in at about $132 a share, Barry. It's dipping below that today to 130. And I'm seeing buying coming into the stock. You know, usually when a stock breaks below those support levels, I don't panic immediately, right? Sometimes that attracts the buying. Now, if it continues downhill, tomorrow it breaks today's support, right? Then you've got another situation on your hands. But right now, I would say there's a big, big red flag waving on NVIDIA. But it's not time to panic just quite yet. It is hanging on to its support level. The valuation is very compelling on NVIDIA. The relative strength has just gone to heck. It's a 92 still on a scale of 1 to 99, but this thing's been going sideways now for about 10 weeks or so. It's just kind of unexplainable. Sometimes you can't explain things in the market. Maybe it's China. Maybe we overestimated the spending in AI. Right? uh maybe uh you know things are uh slowing down a little bit and nvidia from a scorching hot pace to just a hot pace uh but something's not right there uh now we tested i mean it's tested a hundred dollars twice this year um you know in uh earlier yeah in the year yeah i believe in august and uh and even in september most recently got down to like around 102 ish or so but uh
SPEAKER 04 :
But, yeah, it's just, I mean, you talk about momentum a lot, and the momentum's earning side looks great, but the momentum has come completely out of it.
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And we can't ignore the fact that it hit a new all-time high just three weeks ago and passed Apple. So, all right, that's just three weeks ago. So I'm not ready to pull the plug yet on it, but it is the biggest loser, percent loser. I'm seeing buying coming into the stock right now. Somebody probably put some limit orders right underneath the support level there. A lot of times that's how it works, and those are triggering the buying coming in.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and you could have some. I mean, you talked about this earlier yesterday, but you could have some mutual funds and some institutional selling just because it's mechanical rebalancing. Obviously, if you're selling a winner over the year, particularly over the last two years, that would be one that you would rebalance out of. So there naturally could be some selling there. But yeah, in terms of not much news... and the stock has been acting the way it is. It just doesn't compute very well.
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It was part of that Japanese, the carry trade, too. Maybe that's come to it. Now, here's the ugly chart in the market today in the Dow. Just ugly. United Healthcare. Oh, that's a sickening chart. We don't own United Healthcare, UNH. It's a member of the Dow. It's a big part of the reason that the Dow's been down eight days in a row. And a lot of it had to do with the killing of the CEO. And all of a sudden, the focus on the whole industry, United Healthcare's industry, of managed care. I know Trump mentioned that he wants to go after the middleman, the PBMs, the pharmacy benefit managers. That was a hot sector about 10 years ago. He wants to eliminate the middlemen, which is Express Scripts, it's CVS. A lot of those middlemen got bought out by bigger companies. And he wants to get rid of them altogether. But UnitedHealthcare, that is just, ugh, that's a horrible chart. Kick it out of the Dow. I don't know what you put really in there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's a de-definition of headline risk. I mean, that's, if you look in terms of textbook definition, right, would be especially the event with the... With the killing of the CEO and then, of course, just the backlash against the industry.
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The spotlight on the whole industry, yes. Okay, on the upside, Pfizer. That's another one I'd kick out of the Dow. They don't have anything. They haven't had anything new in a long time. They needed a catalyst. They are year... I mean, this stock has lost half of its value since last year. They had the vaccine, you know, at the right time, and that helped them a lot. And then it's just been horrible ever since. They did reiterate their... Their numbers for this year, which aren't very good, I mean, $2.86 in earnings, well, that's down a little bit from this year. But Pfizer is up 3.9%. And I do remember, having been to New York several times, you come out of that Grand Central Station and you look up in the sky and it goes to the heavens, I think, the Pfizer building headquarters. You can't even see the CEO suite. It's in the clouds. That's how big Pfizer is, but it hasn't done much. And then Nike's going to report earnings here, I think, tonight. And that's been another big loser in the Dow. You know, maybe the Dow isn't meant to be a money-making index. It's just supposed to be representative of our landscape. but there's sure a lot of stinkers in the Dow these days. Nike is up 1% today. And of course, Cisco is another stinker in the Dow. Amgen's another stinker in the Dow. Anyways, that's just my thoughts on the Dow. And that's why I pick on the Dow from time to time. And there's three ways to pick on the Dow. There's DOG, the dogs of the Dow, D-O-G, which used to be a strategy. There's DXD, which is two times inverse the Dow, and there's SDOW, S-D-O-W, which is three times inverse the Dow. They come in handy as a hedge from time to time when the Dow gets roughed up like it's getting roughed up for nine days in a row now. Well, the NASDAQ's been hitting new highs. Over at the S&P 500, the biggest winner today, Supermicrocomputer SMCI. You know, this GraniteShares ETF, they have a SMCI ETF. They have a double, I don't know if they have a short ETF, but they definitely have a long ETF. on SMCI and it's one of their best performers today. I keep track of their ETFs here. And their SMC, that's a wild stock, though. I do not trust that stock at all. Secondary offerings, accounting issues, wow, all over the place. And then, of course, Tesla, big winner in the S&P. Again, today up 3.1%. Well, trade along with Bill. Learn from Bill. Spend the day with Bill. You get four free weeks of the live trading subscription and the newsletter and the app. GundersonCapital.com. Set up an appointment with us. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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In this compelling episode of the Kim Munson Show, we delve into the pressing issue of balancing freedom with force in modern governance. We explore how government policies can shape our rights—from women's and gay rights to property and economic freedom. With a keen eye on history and current events, this conversation aims to dissect where the line between liberty and control should stand.
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It's the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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That seems to me like government is establishing a religion.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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If you give people rights, women's rights, gay rights, whatever, there can't be equal rights if there are special rights.
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Today's current opinions and ideas.
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Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. Can you believe one week from today is Christmas Eve?
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It feels like I blinked.
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I know. It's that Kenny Chesney song, Don't Blink, right? Exactly. That's a good one. Hey, check out our website. That's KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. you can email me at kim kimmunson.com the text line and i do want to hear from you is 720-605-0647 and thank you to all of you who support us we are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to to do it And it is never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives. Force obviously can be a weapon, but there are sneakier ones. Policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agendas of the World Economic Forum, the globalist elites, the United Nations, Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado governor. World Health Organization, land use codes, zoning regulations, forest fees. We've got to work on reducing that list, Producer Joe.
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I definitely agree. So much tyranny around it.
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This is true. That is tyranny. And so, yes. Remember, if something is a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the show, we focus on the issues. We will mention the people pushing those issues, but we're trying to stay out of the personality, eighth grade girl fighting kind of stuff between those in the Republican Party, Republican, Democrat, left, right. We really are trying to focus on these issues uh and um stay out of the uh all i can say is eighth grade girl fighting and i didn't have much fun in eighth grade producer joe so i don't want to go back there
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I mean, me neither. And honestly, boys fight like that too. Well, he did it, so why can't I now?
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Yes, and we have adults that say that these days. But you can hear the show on all of the KLZ 560 platforms. That's KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And then the next day we have the summaries posted on my website. And you can click on the image for that day. That will bring up a written summary as well as the podcast. And at that time, you can also listen to the podcast via Spotify and iTunes. So check it out. The America's Veterans Story Show is broadcast the initial. interview is 3 to 4 p.m. on Sunday afternoons. That is then rebroadcast the next Sunday 10 to 11 at night and the next Saturday 10 to 11 at night as well. And so in a weekend, there will be three different America's Veterans Story shows on a weekend. That's Sunday 3 to 4 p.m., Sunday 10 to 11, and Saturday 10 to 11. And we will be broadcasting part two of the interview with Vietnam veteran Carl Leppard, Joe, absolutely fascinating. We talk about three different battles. Two of them for sure were classified for many, many years and a fascinating interview. You don't want to miss that this Sunday, 3 to 4 p.m.
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He had me on the edge of my chair pretty much the entire time recording.
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Yeah, I know. And I know. So be sure and check it out. Our word of the day is illusion. It's A-L-L-U-S-I-O-N. It could be an implied or indirect reference, especially in literature, or it could be an illusion statement. I'm wondering on this whole drone thing, if there is some kind of an illusion there where we're not really seeing what is true. And so your challenge is to use the word illusion in a sentence today. Our quote of the day is from Mark Twain. He was born Samuel, this was his given name, Samuel Longhorn Clemens. He was born in 1835. He died in 1910. He was known by the pen name Mark Twain. He was an American writer, humorist, and essayist. He was praised as the greatest humorist the United States has produced, with William Faulkner calling him the father of American literature. His novels include The Adventures of Tom Sawyer that was written in 1876, its sequel The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, 1884, and with the latter often called The Great American Novel. And I read those books. Did you ever read those books, Producer Joe?
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There are a couple of my favorite books. I loved both of them growing up.
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Okay, I did too. Okay, good, good. And 26 years old, my friends, that gives us great hope as we look into our future. And he said this, he said, keep away from people who try to belittle your ambition. And you want, my dad always said, you know, hang out with people that, you know, are positive and wanting to get things done and creative. And if you're not one of those persons, become one of those persons. So this day in history, in 1777, this was a big deal for America. France recognizes the independence of the British colonies in America. In 1788, the Russian, again, Ukraine, it always seems like it's in the news. 1788, Russian army of Grigory Potemkin assaults and captures the fortress of Okhorov in modern-day Ukraine after a five-month-long siege in one of the major events of the Russo-Turkish War. And I found this interesting. Remember, Joe, how I say that big government and big business like each other? Well, I thought this was a kind of an excellent example. In 1832, real estate developer Samuel Ruggles deeds Grammar Street Park to a board of trustees to hold as parkland. Then he is granted tax exempt status by New York City. for the park and then develops the surrounding lots, ensuring private access only to those properties. I thought that was a little interesting, Joe. He gives the land that's tax exempt, but then it creates value for all the property around that, and then he develops that property. And so I think where I struggle with that is the tax-exempt status and the park thing on that. What do you think?
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I agree. I think if you're going to be tax-exempt, you shouldn't be able to gain a profit on that as well. That's not right, and I think that's a huge overreach of government.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and we see nonprofits all the time, such as the Center for Tech and Civic Life, which is, quote, unquote, a nonprofit. So when Mark Zuckerberg gave them over $400 million in the 2020 election, he got a tax write-off, and then they went in and helped, I'll put that in air quotes, helped some of these key battleground states with their elections. So I really think that we need to get rid of the income tax. I think that we need to then get rid of this whole writing things off for nonprofit, lower taxes across the board, and then I think that we would have less of this government cronyism, which I think that's what that was. So, again, that was back in 1832. This, I thought, was amazing. 1845, German explorer Ludwig Leinhardt arrives in Port Essington after a nearly 3,000-mile overland journey to explore Australia's northern territory. 3,000 miles, Joe? Can you imagine what that, I cannot imagine what he went through.
SPEAKER 10 :
And we don't think about it now because we can get in our cars and go really fast down a highway that's kind of efficiently towards our destination, and it takes no time at all. Those were long journeys back in that time.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and lots of danger, lots going on. 1903, the Wright brothers make the first sustained motorized aircraft flight at 10.35 a.m., piloted by Orville Wright. at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina. So 1903, so that was, what, 121 years ago, and now regular people can get in an airplane and fly all over the world. It's amazing. This one, 1919, the Austrian parliament approves an eight-hour working day. And I've been thinking a lot about this reduction of to an eight-hour working day. I know that the – because I come from farmers and ranchers where – You know, we work a lot. And, of course, on our show, we put a lot of hours in the day, a lot more than eight hours a day. And so I'm wondering, and again, 1919, that was Woodrow Wilson. That was the progressive era era. And so as you're reducing the workday, you're reducing productivity. And then there was kind of the force of only you can only work eight hours a day. I just thought that was interesting, 1919, that that's when that happened in Austria.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and I think there should be no restriction on how much you can work because sometimes people don't have anything better to do. Say they're just sitting at their home playing video games. Why not increase your efficiency and do some work while you have the time?
SPEAKER 02 :
You think? That is the other thing is, is an eight-hour workday, then there's more work. Idle time. And if my dad always said, if, you know, if you don't fill your time with positive things, you know, you can get into trouble. And so more idle time. What did they say? Idle time is the devil's workshop or something like that. But anyway, I just thought that the progressive era, 1919. OK, let's go on to the next one. This is in World War Two, 1941. The German troops led by Erwin Rommel begin retreating in North Africa. 1944, the U.S. Army announces the end of excluding Japanese Americans from West Coast. Detainees are released. And that was a real stain on our history of rounding up U.S. citizens of Japanese descent and putting them into camps. I think about this storm. And when I've talked to these World War II veterans... In the Pacific, some of them had gotten caught in typhoons. And just the description of what happened. So in 1944, U.S. destroyers sink in a storm off the Philippines. 790 were killed. 1947, a weather event. Again, I like to bring these up because weather is weather. The climate is always changing. Be sure and check out our documentary at climateconversation.com. You can watch the... Documentary for free there, and then amazing podcasts as well. But in 1947, New York was struck by a blizzard resulting in 27 inches of snow. In 1999, the United Nations General Assembly passes a resolution designating November 25th as the annual International Day to Eliminate Violence Against Women. Now, Joe, I was thinking about that. Here you fast forward to 2024, where we have this whole transgender movement, where you have adults that are encouraging young people, and we'll talk about women right now, to actually surgically and pharmaceutically, well, surgically cut off their breasts. Would you not think that in the old days, cutting off a woman's breast would be violent do you see where i'm going with that does that make sense it kind of makes me think of the indians and like scalping kind of that same idea yeah yeah so here they were going to eliminate violence against women and then in 2024 we have those that are advocating um violence against women okay just two more uh in 2020 king karl the 16th gustav says Swedish authorities have failed in their response to COVID-19, criticizing the country's controversial anti-lockdown strategy. Again, these globalist elites. And then in 2020, This is a never-give-up story. The Minnesota Vikings recover from 33-0 down at halftime to beat the Indianapolis Colts 39-36 in overtime. It's the biggest comeback in NFL history. And so take that, my friends. We never, never give up. And we get to do this because of our sponsors. The Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team carries my home and auto. We were able to bundle that together. And when you do that, many times you can save yourself some money. And so give them a call at 303-795 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. And oil, gas, and coal have offered that reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy source for many, many years. It is under legislative and regulatory attack. What that means is our hopes and dreams are under regulatory and legislative attack, and we need to be rolling that back. This this whole drone thing is it's just perplexing. And this is from Ross story. It says after sifting through the reports over the past few weeks of drones over New Jersey National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said Monday the truth is not out there. Foreign policy reporter Laura Rosen quoted Kirby in a briefing Monday saying that the increased use of drones isn't an invasion. Okay, I'd like them to tell us how he knows that. He says, after closely looking at the tips and collating them as best we can from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones... and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing drones, helicopters, and even stars that were mistakenly reported as drones. We have not identified anything anomalous or national security or public safety risk over the civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the Northeast. Okay. It says later in the briefing, he also asked reporters to stress that there are over a million legal drones in the United States and thousands of them are flying around at any given time legally and lawfully. It says Fox News has helped amp up fears about the devices with one host calling it a Pearl Harbor moment. President-elect Donald Trump has indicated he's open to allowing Americans to shoot them down. I think that that is an interesting thing because if, in fact, you've got a drone over your property, shouldn't you be able maybe to protect your property? That's a good question. But this goes on to say it is illegal to shoot at drones, but Representative James Comer, Republican Kentucky, also said Monday his constituents will use their Second Amendment capabilities and shoot down the machines, which could result in planes being mistakenly fired upon. Hmm, I don't know. It seems like most people can tell the difference between a plane and a drone. It says the Electronic Frontier Foundation reported in June that drones are being used as first responder programs across the United States and departments are begging for more. It says with their bird's eye view, drones can observe individuals in previously private and constitutionally protected spaces like their backyards, roofs, and even through home windows, the EFF said. and they can capture crowds of people. This is really concerning. Like protesters and other peaceful gatherers exercising their First Amendment rights. It says drones can be equipped with cameras, thermal imaging, microphones, license plate readers, face recognition, mapping technology, cell site simulators, weapons, and other payloads. Proliferation of these devices enable state surveillance even for routine operations. and response to innocuous calls, situations unrelated to the original concerns of terrorism or violent crime originally used to justify their adoption. So stay tuned. I really find this... an obfuscation of what's going on. And I think the American people have gotten to a point where we just really don't trust what this government has to say to us. And so we need to get back to trust is pretty, pretty important. We'll talk about this with Lauren Fix here in the next hour, or excuse me, the next two segments. Fox News reported that the Biden administration is expected to offer California waiver to ban gas-powered cars by 2035. And they said that he is doing this as President-elect Donald Trump prepares to undo a host of green energy policies next year. California set an emission standard to ban new gas cars in the state by 2035, but such a regulation requires a waiver from the EPA to proceed. So just weeks before Biden's term ends, the EPA is reportedly planning to grant that waiver to allow the state to set stricter emission standards for electric vehicles than allowed by the federal government. So we'll ask Lauren Fix about that in the next couple of segments. Then this is from the Daily Wire. Trump says that Biden's border wall sale is almost a criminal act. I do agree. And he will seek a restraining order. And it says that Trump made the statement after a Daily Wire investigation revealed that the Biden administration was selling off portions of the border wall in public auctions with the goal of unloading the border wall before Trump takes office in January. One Republican senator found that the administration was recouping just 0.2% of the original cost of the wall material to taxpayers. This this is unconscionable. This disrespect of everyday people, the American taxpayers across the board by the Biden Harris agenda administration is really mind boggling. Goes on to say the administration is trying to sell it for five cents on the dollar, knowing that we're getting ready to put it up. Trump said in a press conference, what they're doing is almost a criminal act. They know that we're going to use it. And if we don't have it, we're going to have to rebuild it. And it will cost double what it cost years ago. And that's hundreds of millions of dollars. Trump said, I spoke with the attorney general of Texas. I spoke with the senators of Texas. I spoke to a lot of people and hopefully they'll be able to stop it. going to be having a restraining order i'm asking joe biden today to please stop selling the wall and then in this uh this is again is this is from the daily caller it says that that this is by uh let's see who's the writer on this uh mary rook and she said that biden fell for legal traps set by trump appointees okay let's take a look at that It says that President Joe Biden fought a lawsuit brought by two former government officials appointed during the first Trump administration, contesting the legality of their unceremonious firings. Biden won, paving the way for President-elect Donald Trump to wield executive power that the Democrats will end up wishing he didn't have. Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer and former Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vogt sought to block their removal from the U.S. Naval Academy's Board of Visitors in 2021 after Biden took office. It says the U.S. District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich ruled that the lawsuit should be dismissed, citing the U.S. code stating that executive officials are not insulated from presidential removal. So it says, well, it's possible that Spicer and Vogt enjoyed their term on the U.S. Naval Academy's Board of Visitors. Spicer said the lawsuit against Biden did have an alternative motive. He said he wanted to make it easy for Trump should he become president again to have the authority to remove Biden's presidential appointees, even ones who still had time left on their term. And so this is super interesting as well. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I have on the line our coach reports, Lauren Fix. Lauren, welcome to the show.
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Well, thanks for having me back. Lots going on in the auto industry. You know, it's funny, like you, I'm always looking for the next story, you know, what's going on. This is crazy. This is like crazy time for me. I'm doing like three to five news reports a week. I'm like, it's out of control. And that's usually not the case when it comes to automotive. This is good. We're making some headway, and I think people will be happy as long as we can make it happen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, well, let's start with everything that's happening. I guess initially I was going to ask you about this whole thing on tax credits in California. Newsom wants to give tax credit. I guess they had gotten rid of the tax credits in California for EVs. He wants to bring them back because Elon Musk is saying through Doge that they might get rid of those from a federal standpoint. So Newsom wants to bring them back, but he wants to pick winners and losers, right?
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Oh, yes. Actually, there's a whole interesting story that happened last night over this. So initially— Well, this sort of goes into today's story, so let me just put a bow on it for everyone. So President Trump wants to annihilate the EV mandates, and Elon Musk agrees with that. And that is today's story that I'll be posting in, oh, probably a couple hours on my Car Coach Report site. But here's the preview of it. The bottom line is, as we know, President Trump said he was going to remove the mandate so you could buy whatever car you want. Of course, that'll be interesting for the state of Colorado. It's also going to be interesting for the state of California. And the reason Elon Musk is like, absolutely get rid of it is it takes away his competition. There's no competition there. If they live off these mandates and these $7,500 tax credits and they take a loss on every vehicle, if they don't have to make them, the manufacturers won't. They'll go back to building hybrids. They'll offer plug-in hybrids. They'll offer a few electric vehicles for those that are doing well. But many brands are suffering to the point that they're not making any money. Perfect examples like Honda. They don't make an electric car. They get a platform from General Motors, which is their Blazer EV, and they put their hat on it, essentially. They make it a Honda. They call it a Prologue. I went by the dealer yesterday. Yesterday, zero down 297 a month. That's pretty desperate for a car that's brand new. The Acura version is the ZDX. But what's interesting, if you get in it, you're like, this feels like a General Motors product because it is. And they're taking a loss, but they have to comply, because if not, they will get fined. So this is their way of making it work, but they're still taking a loss. And the interesting thing with the whole factor is that if President Trump takes away that mandate, that vehicle goes away. That doesn't mean you can't get it serviced. And that doesn't mean you aren't going to find good deals in the lot. If you want an electric credit, there will be tons of great deals. But no more $7,500 tax credit, no $4,000 credit on used EVs, and basically... I liken this whole nightmare of mandates and cash for clunkers. Remember that? I do remember that. Or give us your old car, and we'll give you money to buy a new car as an incentive. And who ended up using that? Certainly not people that couldn't afford a new car, because if you could afford a new car, you would have bought a new car. Right. And what's the average age of a car on the road today? 15 years old. And the reason is, cars are expensive people have to make choices do i put food on the table with the cost of everything getting expensive like you talk about every day or do i go buy a new car you're gonna put food on the table you're gonna pay your bills the car is transportation for many people not for me personally but for many people it is so kind of puts people in in a difficult position and So this is interesting. So who did it help? Much like the tax credit, it helps people that have money. So if you're at the country club and you think, I think I'll get the newest Hummer EV so I can be the coolest person here, you know, the first person to get one, that's fine. But for the rest of the normal people in this world, we can't afford that. And it became very difficult. So here's the interesting thing. So the mandate we know is going to go away. President Trump said he was going to do it. I forgot the guy's name. I was in charge of the EPA. Scott, I forgot his last name. But also Lee Zeldin, who's going to handle the Department of Transportation and National Highway Traffic Safety, said it's going away. Great. So Gavin Newsom, and there's an interesting little twist in this that happened last night, Gavin Newsom said, well, we're going to offer EV mandates for all the brands except Tesla, which I found hysterical.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mandates or incentives?
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Both. He's going to mandate leave the mandate in place for the state of California. And I'll talk about that in just a second, because I posted something on Sunday that's been on fire. And it's probably good for people to know what the Supreme Court is up to as well. But the bottom line is, he says, I want everyone to get a tax credit. But Tesla, because we don't like them, they're part of Trump's administration. So we don't want to help them. And that's such a stupid move to pick. It's like saying you can only eat at McDonald's. You can't eat at Burger King. I mean, come on. What if I won in and out? Oh, you don't get an incentive. I mean, come on. So when you start looking at trying to choose winners and losers by using politics, it makes people very angry. So I posted a story. It went up on Newsmax on the subject of Gavin Newsom and his foolish little plan. And it also went on to The Blaze. which is Glenn Beck's site. And we got an email last night from Gavin Newsom's team saying, well, we didn't say we were going to do it. We may exclude Tesla. So we changed the wording in the article. It's already out there, you know, how they play the games. So we did the same thing. We posted it and we know what the truth is, that he's going to try and hurt Tesla for that. But here's the bottom line. If you want an electric car, there are plenty of choices. There are some brands that are selling a lot of cars. You will never get hurt with a Prius if you want a hybrid, whether it's a plug-in or otherwise. Hyundai is offering a mixture of vehicles and doing very well with all, you know, whether you want gas, hybrid. plug in or electric. All those are available. They're going to continue to offer what people want. General Motors said we're going to coexist. We're going to offer electric. We're going to offer gas. If people want gas, we're selling it. Smart. No hybrids from General Motors, though. Interesting. Ford is like, well, we're going to make what people want. We're not getting rid of anything. OK, they got the message that I've been saying for 20 years. And let me tell you, just so you know i've taken a ton of heat from brands from executives from marketing people from other journalists from media outlets saying how can you say that no one wants electric cars because i can read the tea leaves this is common sense this is common sense come on if i could afford it i would buy it i can't afford it so i don't i mean This is how clueless the government is. And this is what President Trump wants to do. He wants to get more common sense in there. And I'm hoping somebody out there listening can help me get in part of an advisory board for the transportation and the EPA because they need some guidance from people on the ground who know the industry. And I have a team of people that I work with. who know about data, the industry, not just the OE side, but the consumer side. And all of that needs to be blowing in somebody's ear to let them know we are not political, we are independent, and we're here to help get customers what they want at good prices.
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From your lips to God's ears, I tell you what, Lauren Fix. And I did try to reach out and get your name in front of some folks. And let's just keep our fingers crossed that that's going to happen because you have so much common sense. As I was looking through your website and things, The different subjects there, and we've talked about this, I'm concerned that so many of the car manufacturers are really in a very difficult financial situation because of all these stupid policies. Absolutely. And if they go out of business, this opens up the opportunity for China, I think, to step in in car manufacturing. We've talked about that. Please address that.
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Okay, that is very interesting. And I put out a bunch of different stories and I broke it down. a couple of things. I broke down the four brands that I know are in hot water and they're in big trouble. There's other brands as well. And then we just filmed a podcast on Sunday with my son, Paul. He's not a child. He's in his 30s. And he knows the industry as well and has worked in the industry. And that'll be posting up this weekend. It's a long form. It's a little over an hour and it's much more of a deeper dive. So if you're really interested, you own a dealership, you kind of want to get some insight on or you're just curious because maybe you're investing or whatever, it's good to know what's going on. So let's start off with The low-hanging fruit. The brand that's in the worst position right now is Jaguar. They came up with an extremely strange press event where they had an androgynous people dancing, but no car. Even Elon Musk is like, where's the car? Now, as someone who's owned Jaguars and I currently race a Jaguar, it is very upsetting to me to see that they took a brand that was known for racing, known for performance, known to be the big V8 roaring brand, cat essentially because it's a jaguar and made it androgynous so when they showed up I waited before I commented I said okay let me just see what's going on let me look at the The vehicle. So they showed us a concept car at Art Basel, which is a Miami event. And when you look at the vehicle, you shake your head and go, this is fine. If it's a matchbox car, this is fine. It's a toy. But the reality of it, it was basically a Chrysler 300 that married a, you know, a Maybe a Crossfire, which is an older vehicle from Chrysler, which was a bomb when Mercedes-Benz owned a piece of Chrysler. And basically they glued two air conditioning units, one at the front and one at the back. It's very blunt. It is not appealing. It is what we would call in my industry a brick in the wind. In other words, very difficult to get aerodynamics out of it. And it's a great design study. But when people started asking, hey, what about your current customers, the people that love these cars? Because I like the Jaguar F-Pace. I like the E-Pace. I had a great time with the F-Type. And they said, well, we don't want our old customers. We want new customers. Could you imagine that? Oh, my gosh. Oh, so you own a coffee shop. We're going to sell donuts. We don't want our old coffee customers. We only want new customers. Wow. Bad marketing move, new marketing moron, I will call him. You know he doesn't come from the auto industry, because he doesn't know the industry. Saying that we want all these androgynous people. The fact is, in the whole entire United States, or the world, there's a very small percentage of those people based on everybody else. And those people are expected to spend $250,000 on a new car. So they're going to price themselves out of the market, and they think they're going to compete with Rolls-Royce. And I'm like, never going to happen. I'm going to tell you right now. Let me read my crystal ball. I'm pretty accurate. Not going to happen. So I really worry because there are a lot of dealers that have invested in millions of dollars to build their beautiful dealerships and put beautiful cars together. The problem is they want to reduce their dealer base. By 80%. Why on earth? Because you own a Jaguar dealership. Why? Because the guy's not a genius. I don't know. This has happened before. We've seen stupidity happen before. They hired this girl to run Cadillac. She did the same thing. Cars are like phones. People just get rid of them every year or two. No. A phone is $1,000 at max. A car at $200,000 is a whole other animal. And this is the cluelessness of them hiring people from outside the industry who don't know cars, don't like cars, don't care. They think that they're pieces of fashion or art. They're not. And if you expect to live off of that, you will not.
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Where's the board of directors on this?
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though ah so originally uh when ford sold off jaguar and land rover they sold it to a company called tata tata is an indian car company known for doing budget-friendly cars but root on tata who is known who just passed away recently has got to be spinning in his grave super smart guy he's in the automotive hall of fame he he makes cars for markets and he he reads the market and knew it whoever is running their board of directors wants him to go out of business Because the sad part is they also own Land Rover, which is doing fabulously. New product, the Thunder's selling like crazy, the Range Rover Sport. Not all their product, they're figuring it out, but they're actually making money. So where one of their big brands is making money on a global basis. The other one, I'm really concerned. And we'll see how long this lasts. I mean, I sat in a Land Rover event in November and talked to one of the executives, just playing neutral, just kind of listening. And they think they've got a winner here. And I'm just shaking my head. There is no way. And now they know my opinion because my story is out there. But they're in trouble. So if you're thinking about a good deal on a car, I bet you there's some great deals on Jaguar F-Pace, E-Pace. There's over a year of inventory sitting at Jaguar dealerships. So if you need a vehicle and you're looking for a deal, check out the F-Pace for a sports car. Or the F-Pace is the SUV, the small SUV is the E-Pace. And they've got a bunch of the sports cars, which is the F-Type. So I would say it's a pretty good deal.
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Sounds like it might be a collector's item if they continue.
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No, I don't know. There'll be parts available. You can get service. That's not the problem. And it does include Jaguar service, which is good for two years of service, which is really nice, saves you some bucks. Okay. So next brand is Nika.
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You know what? Let's go to break, Lauren Fix. Let's go to break, and when we come back, we'll keep that as our cliffhanger. I'm talking with Lauren Fix, and she is Car Coach Reports. We get to have these discussions because of our sponsors. And if you've been injured, reach out to John Boson and Boson Law as soon as possible.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the Center for American Values. It is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there's four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up in Pueblo, Colorado. And so that's why the center is so important. It was co-founded by Drew Dix. Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. And Brad Padula, who is an Emmy Award winning documentary maker. And they said, we need to keep these stories alive, honor these Medal of Honor recipients. And so their Portraits of Valor is it's really worth a trip. to Pueblo, Colorado to take a look at that. More information, go to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. I have Lauren Fix on the line with me. She, you know her, Car Coach Reports. One of our listeners, and the text line is 720-605-0647. One of our listeners, Sandra, said, we need our Lauren Fix to help Lee Seldon on the Transportation Board Administration, exclamation points. And... So there you go.
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God's ears. Yeah, exactly. Fabulous. I'm in. I've got people to get to them. I just haven't made it happen. But it's always good to have push from every direction. More people reaching out will help make that happen.
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And that would be really good common sense for our freedom of mobility. So the next of the four car manufacturers that's in trouble, who is that?
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That's Nissan. They're struggling. They're making vehicles that people just don't want to buy. They have some issues with their transmissions. I think the big reason that they've got some negative on them is It partly was way back. They changed their name from Datsun to Nissan, which I thought was confusing because I owned a Datsun back in the day. But Nissan has changed their brand, and they've struggled a little bit, partly their transmissions and partly the fact when Carlos Ghosn, which you and I talked about, the CEO, got arrested because they didn't like the fact that potentially a French company could own part of their cultural Japanese company. That does not fly. And they got hurt, but the big part of the hurt is when they arrested him and all that negative press, which is never good. The interesting part was the second in command was a guy named Jose Munez. Now, you may not know that name, but I actually know him. And he was second in command. And he, of course, escaped Japan before they arrested him. And there was no reason to arrest him. It was all a push to get rid of anything that wasn't Japanese as part of their culture. They thought that they were fearing that the French, which is Raynaud, who does own some of their stock, who is now divested, was thinking about putting money into the company and more money. And they were struggling. And it was just a matter of time. And they said, we need to get rid of the French. So this is obviously a cultural thing. So where is Jose Munez now? Why did I mention him? He's now the president of Hyundai Corporation. And I don't mean just North America, because you've seen what he's done with the Hyundai Kia Genesis line. Now he's president of Global Hyundai Corporation. So he is at the top. A very interesting position, because what you're seeing now is Hyundai Genesis line. and Kia, but they also own Boston Dynamics and a bunch of other companies, including their shipping company, their manufacturing. He's in charge of all of that. So they made him very powerful. He made himself powerful. He's a very smart man, not a car guy, but understands marketing. Few people have done that, like Alan Mulally did that at Ford. But when you have a genius like that, you do not let them go. Yes. And Hyundai is succeeding because of it. You're seeing great product, 10-100,000-mile warranties. You're getting maintenance included. You're getting new product. And they're very smart the way they're doing things. Everything to them is like Legos. Oh, you want electric? We can build that car in electric. You want it hybrid? You want a plug-in hybrid? You want a gas? We can do all of that. And it's just a matter of changing what they call the hat, essentially. So the undercarriage can be changed to whatever customers want and they move quickly. I've been to the factory, super impressive. And that's what you're seeing a successful company do. And in the meantime, Nissan struggles and the dealers are struggling and it got worse. I've got another story coming out. The first one was just Nissan struggling. But now just after that report came out, Infinity, which is their luxury line, said, hey, listen, let's fold all of the luxury dealerships that stand alone into the Nissan store to save money. That's a mayday. That's like throwing the white flag when you you're not selling anything. nearly as many as you need. Some stores are only selling like 240 cars a month. You can't live on that. That's not going to keep you alive. And you're looking at the full big picture for Infiniti, which makes really cool products. The QX80 does not compete with the rest of what's out there. So right now we're seeing Infiniti shutting down their U.S. dealerships. And that is a big concern. It might be a spiral to the end for the whole brand. I hope not. I hope not. They are looking for investors because Raynaud, the French company, said, fine, we're out. So they lost a big investor. Now they're looking for an insurance company. They're speaking to Honda. I don't know what Honda would gain from that, maybe other than maybe their truck division, because Honda doesn't really sell trucks other than the Ridgeline. So that's kind of interesting. But I'll move on to some of the other brands. You can go deep in the weeds on this. And if you want to, our podcast will be posting on Sunday. You can go really deep into all this, especially if you work in the industry or you're interested. Really interesting. So there's good deals at Nissan also. So whoever's struggling, there are deals. Volkswagen is another one. In Europe, they're shutting down three plants. They're telling all their workers through their union that they want them to cut their pay by 10 percent. Not to executives. Just the union workers. And I can promise you there will be pushback on that. Very interesting. And so how does that affect us? Well, here, Chattanooga, Tennessee, they are building Volkswagens. The new Taos is being built in Mexico. They're building cars here. They're still struggling a little bit, although their best-selling vehicle is the Atlas, which is the biggest Volkswagen they ever sold. And I've driven the new Taos. I'll be posting a review on that on my CarSmarts channel. So all the car reviews went to CarSmarts.com. And what's interesting is, The struggle is not because they're building bad product. It's because Germany let the Chinese come in and sell their cars. And this is what you're getting a preview of what happens to the U.S. if we allow Chinese cars to sell here in a marketplace. And the reason that they're hurting so badly is when China comes into a market, they steal the market by lowballing the price. I mean bad. Like, here's a $60,000 car. We're going to sell it at $40,000. So the consumer says... Great. Why would I want to spend 60 when I can buy 40? Done, right? Well, what happens is the U.S.-built, or in this case, the German-built cars are struggling, and that includes all of the brands. And the result is China subsidizes all of the cars that are sold. And they can't do this forever because it can't last forever, and it is hurting them financially. So every car that's sold, and it depends on the vehicle, they'll subsidize the difference in order to steal the market. and they've destroyed the German car market, and they're shutting down three plants, and they're telling at least 100,000 people they're going to lose their jobs, and the ones that are staying, you've got to cut your pay by 10%. That's not going to work. And that's why President Trump saw what was going on, or his people saw what was going on, and this is part of what I want to offer information. You can't let China in here unless it's not subsidized by the government, because we are not going to subsidize Ford, GM, and Tesla and everybody else. Because if we do, then the government owns the car companies, and we know how well they run the post office.
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And that's why the tariffs may make sense when you have the competitor has a government that is undercutting and subsidizing the product so that they can come in and... basically put that industry, steel industry, car industry, out of business. Then that $40,000 car, or that $60,000 car that was sold for $40,000, then might be $70,000. So we've got about a minute left. What's the last one, Lauren Fixx?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, there's a lot. I'm not going to go into it deeply. I think if you really want to know more, the podcast will be coming out. It's an hour. It's worth listening to. It'll come out on Sunday. But in the meantime, lots of good stuff. Supreme Court is going to take up the mandate. This is fantastic news. The Supreme Court said they're going to take the electric car mandate up as soon as they get back into session. That'll be under President Trump. IF THEY TAKE AWAY THE CALIFORNIA MANDATE, WHICH IS CALLED THE CALIFORNIA WAIVER, THE MANDATE'S GONE. TRUMP'S GOING TO GET RID OF THAT MANDATE ANYHOW. THE SUPREME COURT WILL TAKE THAT UP BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE STATE TELLING THE OTHER 49, INCLUDING COLORADO, what to buy and what not to buy. You cannot run, that does not work. So consumers have pushed back, legal, many attorney generals have pushed back, and this is great news. Now, once we get rid of them, we need to defund and remove the California Air Resources Board. President Trump tried to do that at the end of his four-year term. This has to be done immediately. Day one, EPA, get in there and take that away because Obama gave them more powers. We need to defund them and take away their powers. You do what you want in L.A. that does not affect the rest of the country.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. So interesting. Lauren Fix, Car Coach Reports, and the Car Reports are at CarSmarts. Thank you so much. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. We will talk to you next month. Merry Christmas. Thank you for your time. Okay. And our quote for the end of the show, I went to Mark Twain. He said, life is short. Break the rules. Forgive quickly. Kiss slowly. Love truly. Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that makes you smile. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment. Thank you to the team, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, and Lauren Fix was on fire again. Producer Joe.
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She absolutely was. I love when she's on.
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She just always has a fountain of knowledge. I know. Freedom of mobility, to be able to go where you want to, when you want to, everyday people. It's something that is under attack, and she always sheds light on that. You can find her car coach reports, and she would love to serve in the Trump administration and help Lee with the Department of Transportation. So if you know anybody that knows Lee Zeldin, put in a good word for Lauren Fix. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. That way you'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And you can hear the show 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. The second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. The next day, we post the summary with the podcast embedded in that. And then once that is published, that podcast, you can listen to that on Spotify and iTunes as well. And we... Let's see here. Hooters Restaurants has been a great sponsor of both the shows for many years. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Their specialty, or one of their specialties, is wings. And on Wednesdays, they have a Wings Day special. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. And they've been sponsors of both the Kim Munson Show and America's Veterans Stories program. for many years how I got to know them. Very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism. And so you can find that story at my website at KimMunson.com under the sponsors tab. Our word of the day is illusion. And I just realized that I was thinking, I got mixed up, Joe. There is illusion, A-L-L-U-S-I-O-N, And that is an implied or indirect reference, especially in literature. But I think what I was thinking about, it could be an instance of indirect reference, I think I was thinking of I-L-L-U-S-I-O-N. I think I got mixed up. aha that's true so there's illusion a-l-l-u-s-i-o-n uh what i was trying to have as our word of the day was illusion that's i-l-l-u-s-i-o-n it could be an erroneous perception of reality an erroneous concept or belief, the condition of being deceived by a false perception or belief. So that's the word I was wanting to have as word of the day because I'm concerned about this whole drone thing, nothing to see here. Maybe it's an illusion. Well, we know that there's really drones, but is the narrative an illusion to take our minds off of something else? I'm not sure. So stay tuned on all of that. Our quote of the day is Mark Twain, and he was born in 1835. He died in 1910. He wrote The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Hulker Barry Finn. He said this, keep away from people who try to belittle your ambition. And yes, surround yourself with people that are creative, that are honest, that are always looking to make things better. And again, Mark Twain said, keep away from people who try to belittle your ambition. And I wanted to talk with, I am blessed to work with amazing sponsors. And well, one of those is Laramie Energy. And I appreciate their goal sponsorship of this show because it's a reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy. And those sources at this time are oil, gas, and coal that they power our lives and fuel our hopes and dreams. And so we continue to shed light on a regular basis regarding everyday people being able to control our own personal climate. That would be to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And that's a great segue to step out, check out our documentary. climateconversation.com it is the project of walt johnson the documentary you can watch it for free at a climateconversation.com and we are publishing these amazing podcasts with scientists and experts as well so be sure and check all that out and as i mentioned i know all of my sponsors personally they all strive for excellence as they take care of their clients and their customers and on the line with me is john boson with boson law john welcome to the show
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Good morning, Kim. Really like that Mark Twain quote. Very appropriate and very, yeah, people should follow that.
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You really, really should. And my dad always talked about who you surround yourself with is really, really important. And I know you have a lot of dad-isms for your kids as well. I keep those up. The kids will remember those. In fact, Joe, you had given us one the other day, and I think it was, oh, I'd written it down. What was it about? Hold on just a second, John. I've got to find this because it is so good. Yeah, I want to steal it. Yeah, you want to steal it.
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Borrow it. I'll borrow it.
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You'll borrow it. Hold on, Joe. I wrote it down. Okay, here we go. You can't get through the hard stuff if you walk around it. And that was Joe's dad-ism. I love that.
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I will use that one.
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Okay. So, but there is hard stuff that happens and that's why a bosun law is, is there to help and people can reach out to you for a complimentary appointment. But one of the things we haven't talked about for a while is social security disability benefits. What should people know about that?
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Yeah, we haven't. And it is something else that we do and we help folks with because often when someone's involved in a, a bad accident or a bad situation or accident or something happens at work, it can keep them from working for some period of time. And unfortunately, sometimes it's for the rest of a career. And if someone works, they pay into the system, taxes are collected by the government and some of those taxes go for Social Security. not just retirement, but also disability benefits that folks can qualify for if, because of an accident or an injury or it can be an illness, they're going to be unable to work for 12 months, 12 consecutive months. Then they have the right to seek and have Social Security disability benefits. Because we pay in, an employer pays 50% of that, and the employee pays 50% of that, and it's something that can keep, well, it can keep food on the table for a lot of folks. And a lot of folks don't understand and realize that if they're unable to work, and it's going to be for an extended period of time, they can apply for those benefits to kind of, well, to help them out until hopefully they can get back to work.
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And so it's probably something that is difficult to navigate without some professional help, yes?
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Absolutely. We have a dedicated team, one attorney and one paralegal, that help folks from start to finish. They help them fill out the application because that is important, help them obtain the medical records and documentation that they do have a condition that prevents them from working. and then if necessary and often is necessary for folks to actually get and obtain those benefits they have to go in front of a judge an administrative law judge who listens to the testimony reviews the evidence looks at the medical records and makes a determination then if someone is qualified to obtain those benefits. And it can be, well, it's definitely something someone needs an attorney to assist with most of the time.
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So how can people reach John Boson and Boson Law?
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And that number is 303-999-9999. Now, John Boson, I cannot believe that next week is Christmas. And we have been working like crazy. We are pre-recording the whole week with special guests. And so we will be pre-recording something with you for next week. So we will talk with you in person in a couple of weeks. But I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas.
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Back at you, Kim, and for all your listeners, be safe out there. And let's remember the reason that we're celebrating Christmas.
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Absolutely. So, Emmanuel. So, John Bosen, thank you so much. We'll talk soon.
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Thank you, Kim. Take care.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And I can't believe that Christmas is right around the corner. I guess Hanukkah is on the same day. And a great gift for that veteran in your family would be to buy a brick to be on one of their pathways of service to honor your loved one's military service. And you will receive a beautiful certificate saying, until the remodel occurs but that certificate is great to display on your wall or on your desk and you can get more information about all that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org and some of the texts coming in as this is from Sandra she said first of all I was trying to I guess um Allude to this Bible verse, and it's Proverbs 16, 27 through 29, and it says, idle hands are the devil's workshop, idle lips are his mouthpiece. And that's in my comment about an eight-hour workday. because many times the choices that people make when they're not working, maybe because they're just idle, may not be productive. I know we all need downtime, and certainly time to be with friends and family and to recreate. But I'm concerned that there's been this focus away from productivity, and that's just, as I mentioned in our discussion, uh history this day in history in 1919 austria instituted the eight uh eight hour work day so thank you sandra on that and then also she said drones and low altitude flights says unmanned aircraft known as drones are broadly available to the public and can fly at low altitudes over the property of others. And I know that Glenn Jansen with Jansen Photography, he can do photography with drones, which is pretty cool. But it says drone owners are free to fly these aircraft over private property subject to FAA rules without getting permission from the property owner. If a drone owner substantially impairs the property rights of a private party, though, They may face a civil lawsuit for compensation. So, okay. So that's good to know there as well. So let's see. Let's get over here to some of these other headlines. One that I thought was very, very important was, let me get to that, is... This is one that Pam Long had alluded to. And here in Colorado, we see this big push to take away our Second Amendment rights. And they do this under the illusion of trying to have safe neighborhoods. And so this is published by the Colorado Accountability Project. And it is CDPHEs, that's the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment. Let's Talk Guns campaign echoes gun control and Democrat talking points. And it says, established by a 2021 law, CDPHE's Office of Gun Violence Prevention was intended to, according to the bill summary of the law that created it, to coordinate and promote effective efforts to reduce gun violence. Part of the office's recent work has been to create a public-facing web page, Let's Talk Guns Colorado, which is sort of a clearinghouse for information on a variety of gun safety topics and state gun policy. Among the concerns of the legislators who voted against the office's creation and among the public who disagreed was that the office would be used as a dressed-up way to deliver gun control talking points and further Democrat gun control efforts in the state. I think that's probably true. And again, using a publicly funded agenda to make all of this happen. And it says, whether the office has a pattern of doing that is up for reasonable debate. But it says in their newsletter that is linked. And again, this is, let's see, Colorado Accountability Project. And they go into depth on a definite instance of the office thoughtlessly fording gun control and Democrat talking points, along with an open email to the office requesting that they either amend or remove said language. It says that they've taken a quick tour through that, and it says this website is a collection of tips, topics, and guides. For example, if you were, say, a doctor wanting to talk to your patients about safe gun storage or wanted info on filing an ERPO petition, you could find info there. And anyway, I think the point is that government dollars... setting up bureaucracies whenever you see the office or the commission of fill in the blank that typically means that there's a bureaucratic control that is occurring with that and all of these under the guise of hold on here just a second all of this is under the guise of of saying that they want to have safe communities. But let's really unpack this a little bit more. What this is about is disarming the populace. And one of the first things that dictators do is they make sure that everyday people do not have access to firearms to protect themselves and their families. And there are those who say, well, just call the police or call the sheriff. Well, it takes a little while for them to arrive. And you want to make sure that you have the right to be able to protect yourself and your families. And the idea that you would have government that would dictate how you store a firearm in your home. So let's say that the bad guys are at the door and you want to protect your children from the bad guys. And what do you say? Hey, wait just a minute. I'm going to go down to my gun safe. I'm going to get my firearm out. You just wait just a minute before you come into the house because I want to take care of that. That's one of the things that is so really crazy about government wanting to come into your home and tell you what you can and cannot do in your home. And again, it is another way to, if you cannot access your firearm, then it is an infringement upon your firearm. And so this whole Office of Gun Violence Prevention is, again, bad guys don't follow the rules. The bad guys are the ones that are going to have the firearms. And so we're going to be at the tip of the spear on this particular issue. And I continue to think about that young mom that is in a... a dangerous neighborhood where she wants to make sure that she can protect herself and her children from the bad guys. And we did just pass this excise tax in this last election here in Colorado, which is a 6.5% excise tax on firearms and ammunition. So here she is trying to put food on the table and has to make different choices. And here we swoop in and put a tax on her ability to protect herself and her children from the bad guys. And so I think that we need to be very vigilant on what is going to be happening at this Colorado State Legislature this next session. It's going to be interesting to see how... The radical activist agenda of these Colorado Democrats that are in power in the legislature and Governor Polis, nothing happens without his permission. But how he will be trying to portray himself as more libertarian is... even though his bureaucracies, his bureaucrats, this administrative state has been pushing this radical activist agenda. So it's going to be really interesting to watch what happens with that. And so this is a great time for me to say, join the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. It's only $25 per year. And we, during the legislative session, will go through all of the legislation that is scheduled for hearing. And then we will take a position on different pieces of legislation as they affect you as a taxpayer and your property rights. Colorado Union of Taxpayers has been an organization that has been... in existence since 1976. It's all volunteers who care deeply about you and Colorado to do this. And so $25, you will get the email that we send to the governor and the legislators and our members each week regarding the different legislation for that week that we're taking positions on. So you can join us by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. That is coloradotaxpayer.org. And when you see these folks, these volunteers, say thank you to them. That is the board. Steve Dorman, Greg Galianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honecker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Remy Johnson, and Mary Jansen. So be sure and do that. Text line is 720-605-0647. And, oh, gosh, here, I want to hear a lot of this. Different listeners. First one, and again, I was talking about the CDPHE and their Office to Gun Violence Prevention. And this first listener says, I can put a gun on my coffee table for 50 years and it won't shoot anyone. It's humans that kill people, not guns. Excellent point. Good point. Okay, next one. Listening to this Colorado entity that wants to have safer gun laws, all you had to say was the comment about a doctor discussing gun safety with, you told me, all I need to know about this new government entity. It is not a doctor's business to know anything about the firearms that we may or may not have in our homes. If my doctor ever asked me that question, that would be the last appointment I've ever had with him. Excellent point. And then goes on to say, we also do not have to justify why we choose to have a firearm. I know that you often talk about the single mom, but we don't have to explain ourselves. It is a right as an American citizen to have a firearm to protect ourselves from government tyranny. That's absolutely correct. The reason I pull out that and I use that on a regular basis, that example, is there are those that are afraid of firearms. And they think that firearms are bad and that they are the reason that people are killed. And I think it's somewhat naive. They think that if we could have all of these things. different gun laws and get rid of guns, then we would prevent people from shooting each other. Well, that's not the case because the problem is, is if you limit law-abiding citizens the right to keep and bear a firearm and the bad guys know that, then that's only going to embolden the bad guys. But there are, I think, very well-meaning people that have this idea, it's kind of Pollyanna-ish, that just getting rid of access to firearms, that that's going to alleviate the problem. So that's why I do bring up the example on a regular basis regarding that single mom that wants to protect herself and her family against the bad guys because hopefully that gets the attention of some of these well-meaning people that are misdirected on our Second Amendment and those that want to take away our firearms. And so that is why we really – and Colorado is at the tip of the spear on this issue. The fact that they pushed that 6.5 percent excise tax and it was passed, you will now see them trying to send that out to other states as well. So we need to hold the line here, and the way to do that is to engage in this battle of ideas. Next thing, remember that you cannot give to someone, government cannot give to someone something for free that they have not first taken from someone else. And this is from the Center Square. It says 23 attorney generals oppose Biden's fourth attempt to saddle Americans with student loan debt. And this is by Bethany Blankley at the Center Square. And this was published. We have a byline on this. I don't see that. It says these attorneys led by Missouri and Kansas have put the Biden administration's Department of Education on notice about this fourth attempt. to force the American taxpayers to pay for others' student loan debt. Now let's think about this for just a minute. There are those that have decided to not go to college, that they may have decided to trade school or they needed to immediately get into the workforce. They are paying taxes. They are being productive citizens. And the idea to take their tax money to pay for somebody else's decision to go to a university or college and incur debt to do that is really unfair. But the other thing to remember is that debt that these students have incurred going to college has been used to pay administrators, professors that have pushed this indoctrination that we have seen with many colleges and universities I cannot tell you how many different families I have talked with that the parents are conservative. They've worked hard. They have put their kids through college or, again, taking on this debt I don't think is a good idea for the kids. And then the child comes home and really – is now against all of the values of the parents who put all this together. And so how dumb are we to, first of all, incur this debt, let our children incur this debt, to pay these people, to indoctrinate our kids, to hate America, and disrespect their parents? And because we've had all the student loan debt money that's gone in to the system, it's increased the cost significantly. And it is unsustainable because more and more people are looking at this college degree and all of this debt and saying it doesn't look like the cost-benefit ratio is there. so now here we are with the joe biden he says with less than three months this was recently says the department of left in his administration the department of education published a notice proposed rule making in the federal register announcing another attempt by the federal government to pay off student loan debt despite the u.s supreme court ruling it cannot do so And that proposed rule is titled Student Debt Relief for the William D. Ford Federal Direct Loan Program and the Federal Family Education Loan Program. And I remember it was in the old days when kids got a college education. What that would imply is that they were learned. and that they would be able to get a good job. And that's really, I think, what parents have wanted for everyone. But now when you are getting indoctrination and... When you're getting degrees that nobody really wants to hire you for, then that's a problem. And I do remember when I was on city council of Lone Tree is that I think that I know it was at least proposed. Now I can't remember if it was passed that all new employees had to have a college degree. and didn't say that you had to have a college degree in the field that you were applying for. It just said that you had that. This was another backdoor way to force kids into thinking they're going to have a better job if they go out and they get a college degree, and so they incur debt to make that happen, and then all of a sudden it's like, ah. So going on to this piece from the center square, it says, this is the fourth time the department has tried to shift the expense of student loans from those who willingly took them out to the American taxpayers. It says everyone from the Supreme Court to President Joe Biden to former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has publicly acknowledged that you do not have the authority to forgive debt except in the limited ways Congress clearly outlined. You must hear to these warnings and follow the law. And so the idea of getting rid of the Department of Education under the Doge project I think makes a lot of sense. And a project that I would really like to – and I'm just kicking the tires on it in my brain. So if you have ideas, you can help me with this. But as we know, at the federal level – Donald Trump and with Doge, Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk are going to cut government, cut these bureaucracies is really important. What I think you'll see is doubling down at the local and the county and the state level. to continue to push this agenda that is really embedded in local, county, and state government. And so I've been thinking about one of the first ways that we need to get this turned around is to have our own Doge Colorado. And where could that start? Where would be the first places to cut off the money? And that would be government, federal government grants and loans. Because we are incurring significant debt, running deficits, and this debt is going to have to be paid off by us and by our children. It's getting to a point where it seems like it's impossible. although nothing's impossible, but that trajectory is not sustainable. So we need to cut off the money that's coming from the federal government for all of these government grants and loans and programs, and that reduces the control of the federal government. That then means that we need to hold our Local, county, and state, I almost said officials, are representatives accountable. But I think one of the best ways is to start to rein this all in is to get rid of the government money. I think it was Jenny that had texted me and said that these government grants are the cocaine and very addictive for government, local governments. And I think she was absolutely spot on on all of that. Now that we're getting into the Christmas season, the Hanukkah season, and the kids are going to be off from school, do some things that are productive and informative and very educational. And one of those would be to go down to the Center for American Values and go to their Portraits of Valor of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients. And you can talk about these men and learn about these men. I've said to both Brad and Drew, her co-founders of the center, I would love it if each year every student in Colorado would choose a Medal of Honor recipient and have to write a report on them to learn about them. I think that it would change things in our education system. But I would put it on your bucket list. 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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Wanted to go through this particular headline here. Oh, gosh, let me get to it now. I had two different things. Oh, gosh, this is a new law. Here we go. New law. This is from KDVR. New laws going into effect in Colorado, January of 2025. It's so interesting that they have these start after the election. And the first one is ban on holding your cell phones while driving. It says, texting while driving has already been illegal in the state for several years, while holding cell phones while driving was against the law for children under 18. Come 2025, Colorado drivers could be fined for holding a phone while driving. It's Senate Bill 24065, and the Colorado Union of Taxpayers took a no position on this. And it says the first time a driver is caught, they face a $70 fine or two license suspension points. Gosh, you know what? I think, what do you think about this, Joe?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think that's a little bit ridiculous. Yes, I understand safety and stuff, but to fine you money for that?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think we have distracted driving rules out there. I think it's all just about control. And so that's one of the new ones. Next one. If you've ever wrestled a child car seat, which it can be one of the most frustrating experiences to try to get a car seat locked into the car. In fact, I saw a comedian, he said he'd hoped that he could get the car seat in the car before the child graduated from high school. It can be so difficult. So House Bill 241055. And so when you see the designation, first of all, it'll be the year. So this was passed in the year 24. And the House Bill was 1055. And it's updating child safety seat rules in the state. It says, one of the things that it changed is that kids will now be required to use a booster seat until turning nine years old, raising the age that kids stay in booster seats by one year. So, Joe, kids can be different sizes when they're nine years old. You could have a very large nine-year-old kid that still has to sit in a booster seat. How about if the parents could make the decision on that? What do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
I totally agree. And actually, there was a rule growing up for me in New York. It was you either had to be 10 years old or over the weight of 100 pounds to be able to not have to use a booster seat anymore.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, my gosh. I have friends that are only 100 pounds and they're driving. So next one. And I'd written about this. This was passed back in 2020. And I'd written an essay on this. And Zach had done such a great job with the image on it. He had the gold dome of the Capitol was actually an egg. You know, and I think we probably need to, I'm going to talk to Zach about republishing this. It says, starting January 1, 2025, all eggs sold in the state of Colorado must be cage-free environments. The law was passed in 2020, but it went into effect in two stages. Starting in 2023, egg producers were required to give hens more space if they were confined in cages. Now, all eggs sold in Colorado must be cage-free starting in January. So this increases the cost of eggs. Eggs has been a great protein source for families, particularly if they're on a tight budget. And so this just increases the price of this protein source. And again, this is on top of government-induced inflation. So we'll continue on. We have Ron on the line. Ron, what is on your radar? Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Kim. They passed that bill about wearing helmets on bikes, and then you have to wear your seatbelt, and you have to do this. This is conditioning. This is what they do to condition you for these COVID-type scenarios. This is what they use, and they try to condition the populace to follow what they do.
SPEAKER 02 :
Ron, I think you're absolutely correct. And again, when I was on city council, I was up at the big, let's see, Colorado Municipal League meeting. They have a big retreat and it's normally up in the mountains. The city pays for room and board for their city council people and their staff to go up to that meeting. And this is a room there was probably a thousand people in it. And somebody got up and said that it was two things. One of them was to force people to wear helmets. So whenever I ride my bike, I haven't ridden it in a while. I've been walking. But I would just as a just as a rebel, I would not wear a helmet. And then and actually could see that you could see that play out in COVID as well. I was a bit of a rebel on that. Yeah. And then the other was, again, this was sometime 2012 to 2016. Somebody got up and said, we need to ban plastic bags at the grocery store. And remember, Ron, in COVID, where people were so concerned about germs, they were actually Many people were disinfecting their packages that were even delivered to their door. So concerned about germs. Now, with eliminating clean plastic bags to take your groceries home in, people are bringing in bags that have been in their cars, their trunks for weeks, not washed, bringing all those germs into our food source. And I think that's crazy. What do you think?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. The government doesn't care about you. They pump all these chemicals into your food. Smoking, all this other stuff, they don't care whether you live or die. What they care about is control and money. And that's what they care about.
SPEAKER 02 :
And that's why we have to push back on that because I think you've nailed it. Ron, thank you so much. It's always good to hear from you.
SPEAKER 07 :
You too. Thank you.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, that line is 303-477-5600. Jenny said this. So the leftists are concerned about our children, the safety of our children. She says, you mean the ones that they didn't abort? She always nails it. You know exactly what she's saying. Let's see here. Okay. So this is one of our listeners said, no, all of us have new cars. When I'm holding my phone, I'm following my map, which makes driving safer. Okay, that's a good point. You know what I got? I got one of those cup holders, though, so that I can just look down at that. So it's really easy to do. And I would recommend that. That makes things. But I don't think it's government's business. Well, what if you... distracted driving that's what we need to as john bosun says we need to stay focused but we don't need government getting into our homes and our cars telling us what to do let's see we've got a lot of other comments here uh let's see Okay. Oh, I'll get to this in just a second. Next one regarding new laws, gun storage requirements in vehicles. House Bill 24, 1348. Again, I'm pretty sure the Colorado Union of Taxpayers took a position on this as no. It bans anyone from leaving a handgun in an unintended vehicle unless they first secure it in a locked container placed out of view. Violators could be hit with a fine of up to $500. So let's say that you're coming back to your car and somebody is following you. You want to get into your car and you may be attacked and you might want to use your firearm to protect yourself. Hold on just a minute. I got to get my firearm out of the mandated locked thing, whatever, in my car. Do you see how this is empowering the bad guy and making it more difficult for the good guy to protect themselves, Joe?
SPEAKER 10 :
It's about as silly as requiring to have the gun disassembled across your house to be able to defend your home. It just makes no sense. You have to run around. Hold on. Wait one minute. Let me go get the top end of my pistol, the bottom end of my pistol. Hold up. The magazine's in the garage, too. Let me go get that as well.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's just uncomfortable. Is that something that they're proposing? Yeah. Or is that a law someplace?
SPEAKER 10 :
That was one that was proposed, I want to say, about three years ago. At least in Oklahoma, they tried to do that, and it did not fly very well there.
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't think that.
SPEAKER 10 :
But it's just silly.
SPEAKER 02 :
But you know what? The other thing is, is they never give up. They continue to try to limit your access to firearms in all different ways. So next one, let's see here, that's going into effect. This was in 2022. It was House Bill 22-1345 to regulate the sale and distribution of two different chemicals. I can't even say it. Better known as PFAs or forever chemicals within the state. It says the first effect went in in January 24 and banned PFAs in things like rugs, food packaging and products. Meant for kids, again, protecting kids, always protecting kids. As Jenny said, the ones they don't abort. And it also required that cookware disclose it has PFAs included in it. So, again, these are new laws. Oh, my gosh, there is a whole list of these. Let me see if there's any other thing. Okay. Agriculture and Natural Resources Public Engagement Requirement. I kind of remember that. That was Senate Bill 026. And okay, let me see if I can say this particular text here. Okay. Question. It says, why are the people of Colorado so stupid to put these people in office that continue to restrict our lives? That is a good question. And I've heard reports that Colorado is the only state that went further blue out of all 50 states in the nation. I'm not sure I buy that, but we want to find out. And that is why we have done the Colorado 2024 election project. We have our two lawsuits out there, one with United Sovereign Americans and the other was the Wisconsin for Center for Election Justice. This project is going to morph into Reclaim Colorado 2025. Joe, you have a quick comment and we're just about out of time.
SPEAKER 10 :
I just have a kind of conjecture about that question. Appointed officials. I feel like Colorado had the most appointed officials out of every state. And that might be just why we get these bad actors that we didn't want.
SPEAKER 02 :
And who is appointing all this? The libertarian Governor Polis, who wants to run for governor, and just said he was getting rid, the buzz saw on all these regulations. Well, let's find out if he's really serious. Anyway, great discussions. And our quote for the end of the show is from Mark Twain. He said this, "'Life is short. Break the rules. Forgive quickly. Kiss slowly. Love truly. Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that makes you smile.'" Today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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The Power Behind Faith
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 1008 aired on December 15, 2024
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I’m your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes stick around. It will be about 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot of
education but no manipulation because we don’t try to con you. We’re not trying to hustle
money. We’re not trying to sell you anything. We just want to give you information that
hopefully will help you verify and identify God's plan for your life. If you can do this, then you
can orient and adjust to the plan, it’s up to you. What we’re going to study today is very
important. I think it’s something I haven’t covered before. Before we begin our study this
morning, I’d like to thank all of you who have called or written encouraging me as we move into
the 2025 broadcast year. To be honest with you, I really thought I'd never be around this long but
it's obvious the Lord has other plans. One of the verses that encourages me is found in Jeremiah
29:11,
“‘For I know the plans that I have for you,’ declares the Lord, ‘plans for welfare and not
for calamity, to give you a future and a hope.’”
He knows His purpose and His plan for us and
the question is, do we know, understand and trust His plan? Two key words, know and trust. Do
we know His plan and do we trust His plan? If you stick with me today, I think we’re going to
understand what this means. We can take comfort in this divine provision that God has a plan for
us to prosper us, not to harm us, to give us hope in the future. We can take comfort in this
provision. However, there is one thing we must do before we can take comfort in this passage.
This one thing is found in Proverbs 3:5-6 where it says,
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will
make your paths straight.”
It's very obvious that before we can believe Jeremiah 29:11, we have
to trust what God says. Let’s take a look at the passage in Proverbs 3:5-6. It says we have to trust
Him with all of our heart and submit to Him. Listen to the words again,
“Lean not on your own
understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him
[submit to Him].” This is positive volition.
This is faith to trust and we have to have some insight and understanding. Don’t lean on your
own understanding, human viewpoint. Let's get some principles on these two verses. The fact is
that God has a plan for us and we have to trust Him to learn what the plan is. Here are the
principles. One, trust is another word for a very strong type of faith. The Hebrew word is
batah
and it’s a verb. Figuratively it means to be confident, to be sure or to be secure. This particular
Hebrew verb is what we call a qal imperative. The imperative means it is a divine command, not
a request. God is telling you through the writer of Proverbs to trust in Him with all your heart.
Two, make no mistake about this, if you fail to trust God, you are sinning. Failure to trust God is
a sin for the believer. You can see where we sin many times when we have things that happen
and we question why, are angry it happened, and we don't trust God about it. Do you think God
overlooks the small details in your life? Absolutely not, He's aware of them. This is what
Jeremiah 29:11 says,
“‘For I know the plans that I have for you,’ declares the Lord, ‘plans for
welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.’”
You must trust Him and you must
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not fall into the sin of mistrust. Three, the passage makes it clear that we are to 100% trust and be
confident in His plan, not our own instincts. Four, the action part of trust is the word submit. Did
you hear this when I read it to you?
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not lean on
your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him
[submit to Him].” The action part of
the word trust is the word submit. You can't trust if you don't submit. This indicates the act of
submission on our part. But before we can submit, here's another word, we've got to have
confidence in God's plan and design for our life. How can you trust God and how can you submit
to God and His plan if you don't have confidence? Where do you get this confidence? Five,
confidence is developed and strengthened by means of spiritual growth. Psalm 32:8 says,
“I will
instruct you and teach you in the way which you should go; I will counsel you with My eye upon
you.”
If we are going to submit and have confidence, we have to learn something. Six, spiritual
growth requires instruction. I just read it,
“I will instruct you and teach you.”
This is why we
have a Bible and this is why we have men who have the gift of pastor-teacher, Ephesians 4:11.
Seven, it is through Scripture that God counsels us. In other words God guides us through
Scripture. If you have confidence and you trust Him, you will understand this. 2 Timothy 2:15
says,
“Be diligent
[study]
to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need
to be ashamed, accurately handling the Word of truth.”
The Lord wants you to have confidence
in His guidance, confidence in His plan and to trust Him and not try to do things in your own
free will. This means you're not stepping outside the plan of God, trying to figure it out for
yourself. God has a plan and what is His plan? Where do I get this?
“For I know the plans that I
have for you.”
God has a plan for your life, a time to live and a time to die. A time to be happy
and a time to be unhappy. He has a plan for you and He declares this in Jeremiah 29:11. It is not
to hurt you. It is to prosper you and give you confidence in a great future. Do you trust Him? Do
you have confidence to trust Him? Do you know enough of the Word of God to trust Him? Have
you grown spiritually enough to let Him counsel you? Eight, spiritual growth produces insight
and discernment. What are these two words, insight and discernment? They are a byproduct of
understanding. When you understand God's plan, you have insight into the future and
discernment about what God is doing. This type of thinking is called in Proverbs 2:1-6 wisdom.
“My son, if you will receive my words
[teaching]
and treasure my commandments within you
[learning]
, make your ear attentive to wisdom, incline your heart to understanding; for if you cry
for discernment, lift your voice for understanding; if you seek her as silver and search for her as
for hidden treasures; then you will discern the fear of the Lord and discover the knowledge of
God. For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding.”
How
can you trust God if you don't understand God? How can you love God if you don't know God?
Nine, wisdom is necessary if you wish to be a winner believer, not just some sort of
benchwarmer. There’s a football season going on. We’ve got a lot of benchwarmers that never
get in the game. God cannot put you in the game if you don't understand His plan and if you
don't trust His decisions. Let's get to the matter of trust. What does it mean to trust God? Ten,
trust is the strength of your faith. Faith requires trust. What does trust require? That you have
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confidence that God is not going to harm you, confidence that God has a good plan for you and
this confidence gives you comfort. Listen to what Paul wrote in Philippians 1:6,
“For I am
confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of
Christ Jesus.”
Confidence is your trust in action. You can't trust God if you don't have
confidence in God. If you don't have some knowledge of God's plan, how can you have
confidence in God? How can you have faith if you don't understand God? Eleven, confidence
requires courage. The young shepherd boy David who walked out to face the Philistine giant
named Goliath was full of confidence. He demonstrated great courage when he faced that giant
with a slingshot when all of Saul's army was full of cowards, running and hiding. For 40 days
and 40 nights when the giant came out to challenge them, nobody would fight him until finally
one teenager with confidence and faith stepped up and did the job. Twelve, in Matthew 8:23-27
we find the disciples had no faith due to their lack of confidence in God's plan. They simply did
not trust the Lord’s decision to cross the Sea of Galilee with storm clouds on the horizon. Do you
hear what I'm saying? They had no confidence, no trust and no faith. Listen as I read Matthew
8:23-27,
“When He got into the boat, His disciples followed Him. And behold, there arose a
great storm in the sea, so that the boat was being covered with the waves; but Jesus Himself was
asleep. And they came to Him and woke Him, saying, ‘Save us, Lord; we are perishing!’
[This is
a problem, no faith and no confidence.]
He said to them, ‘Why are you afraid, you men of little
faith?’ Then He got up and rebuked the winds and the sea, and it became perfectly calm. The
men were amazed, and said, ‘What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey
Him?’”
He was the God-man, undiminished diety and true humanity in one body forever. The
key to this is He never used His deity to sustain His humanity. He did use His deity to calm the
sea. Yes, He was God. He just stood up and said, “Stop” and that was the end of it. It slicked off.
But He never ever used His deity to sustain His humanity because He would have been doing
something we couldn’t do. He left us a perfect example. Thirteen, the Lord actually called them,
“Men of little faith.”
They were short-time trusters. They looked at the circumstances and not
their Savior. Fear replaced faith. Thus, in fear they quit thinking and they allowed their emotions
to take over because emotions don't think, they just react. In any situation in your life when you
have adverse circumstances like storms or whatever they may be, you can become afraid and quit
thinking. You can react with emotional sins or you can have faith, have confidence and respond
with Scripture. Fourteen, our job when we're in the storms of life is to respond with faith, not
react with fear. This faith gives us the power to overcome the fear, but listen carefully. Your faith
has to be based on something stronger than just hope. It has to be based on something that is very
important, your love for your Heavenly Father who loves you. If your faith is not based on your
love for your Heavenly Father, it won't work. In Jude 1:20-21,
“But you, beloved, building
yourselves up on your most holy faith
[faith can increase, you can build up your faith]
, praying in
the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord
Jesus Christ to eternal life.”
Building yourself up in faith and keeping yourself in God's love are
the keys to these verses. Here's a question I want to ask you now. How do you build up your faith
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and what motivates you to do this? 1 John 4:18 says,
“There is no fear in love; but perfect love
casts out fear.”
Remember I said, faith defeats fear and personal love for God is your faith.
When you have personal love for the Father, then your faith builds up as you learn Scripture and
you have confidence and trust in God's plan for your life. Go back to that verse in Jeremiah,
“For I know the plans that I have for you.”
Do you trust Him? Do you have confidence in Him?
Do you have the courage to let God take control and you quit trying to run the show? Here is the
secret to the power of faith. It is your personal love for God, not just some words spoken as a
token recognition like, “Oh, I love God,” but a genuine trust that you have in His plan and in His
provision. God loves you and God wants you to love Him so much so that you trust Him. 1 John
4:19 says,
“We love, because He first loved us.”
This is the problem, how can you love
somebody you don't trust? How can you love someone you don't see? How can you love
someone you don't even know? Listen to what the Lord Jesus Christ said in John 14:21,
“He who
has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me
[obedience is the proof that you
love Him]
; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father and I will love him and will disclose
Myself to him.”
Remember I just asked you, how can you love someone you can’t see? You will
see the Lord Jesus Christ manifested through the Word and in your life,
“Christ in you, the hope
of glory”
(Colossians 1:27). When you have this personal love for God the Father, the one who
has His commands and keeps them is the one who loves Him. When you have this trust and
confidence in His plan, then He reveals Himself to you. The motivation for us to obey God's
Word is our personal love for Him, more than what the world offers, more than what our family
offers, more than what money offers or circumstances offer. Do you really love God so much so
that you trust Him, have confidence in Him and have courage under intense situations in your
life? This personal love for God is the door to spiritual greatness. Personal love for God is the
power behind your faith. Personal love for God is the confidence you have to walk through the
valley of the shadow of death as the psalmist says in Psalm 23:4,
“I fear no evil, for You are with
me.”
The invisible presence of God in your life is manifested by your faith. We need to get a
couple more principles about this. When you have personal love for God, then you have extreme
confidence in God's plan for your life. What a wonderful way to live. We’re talking about taking
the monkey off your back and putting the monkey on the Lord’s back. Let Him handle the
details. Let Him handle the circumstances. When you don't get what you want in your promotion,
when you don't get what you want in your salary, when you don't get what you want in whatever
you want, do you have confidence that God is in control, that He has a plan for you? I can
remember one time my wife and I suddenly had to move from a house we were renting. We
didn’t have a choice. It was a fearful thing because we were told we had two weeks to get out
and find another place to live and at first I had no confidence in God's plan, I had no courage.
But you know what? It turned out that the Lord had a better place for us to be, a cheaper place in
a better location. I failed the test because I didn't have confidence in His plan. His plan was
manifested and we took advantage of it but I had to learn the hard way to trust Him, not look at
the details or at the circumstances, but in faith, love my Lord and know He's not trying to harm
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me. He’ll do what’s best for me, promote me and bless me. Confidence from love motivated faith
gives you a great peace that passes all understanding. Philippians 4:7,
“And the peace of God,
which surpasses all comprehension, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.”
What a wonderful thing to have the peace of God. It’s beyond the understanding of your
neighbors and your family when you have this sort of peace in God's plan. You love Him that
much that you trust Him and you will find as you get older you’re going to have to come to this
conclusion. Do you really trust Him to handle your sicknesses and your problems you are going
through? Do you have confidence that God is in control or do you want to panic? Do you want to
scream, get afraid and let fear take over. No. You want to let faith take over because you are
motivated by your love for your Heavenly Father who promises He loves you, He has a plan for
you and that He will not abandon you. The Lord Jesus Christ said,
“I will never desert you, nor
will I ever forsake you”
(Hebrews 13:5).
“And I give eternal life to them, and they will never
perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand”
(John 10:28). Galatians 2:20,
“I have been
crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I
live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.”
Satan's number one objective in regard to your spiritual life is to stop you from replicating the
life of Christ. He doesn't want you to replicate the Lord Jesus Christ, to re-present Him to your
family or to your friends. This is what I just read to you in Galatians 2:20,
“Christ lives in me.”
Paul replicated Christ. He re-presented Christ. He said, “The life I now live in this body, I live by
faith, trust, confidence and courage in the plan of God. Christ lives in me.” It was no longer
Paul's life. It was the life of the Lord Jesus Christ and it’s supposed to be that way with us. We
are not living for ourselves. We are living for Him. It is no longer about you or about me. It’s
about Christ. Do you love God enough to understand this? Christ lives in you. It is no longer
your life, it’s His life as you replicate His life to your friends. He said,
“I live in the flesh I live by
faith in the Son of God, who loved me.”
He said, “I live by faith motivated by His love for me.”
His faith is motivated by His love for me and this is called reciprocal love motivation. We love
Him because He first loved us. Here's another principle. God requires you to love Him and to
trust Him and this is the proof of your faith. Hebrews 11:6,
“And without faith it is impossible to
please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those
who seek Him.”
If you will take a moment and read Hebrews 11, you will see the recorded
testimony of faith warriors in Scripture. Listen to their testimony. I’ll read a few verses from
Hebrews 11:33-34,
“Who by faith
[this is love motivated faith]
conquered kingdoms, performed
acts of righteousness, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, quenched the power of fire,
escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put
foreign armies to flight.”
How did they do this? By love motivated faith. What a wonderful way
to live. What a wonderful strength you have. Your faith is directly related to your love for your
Lord. In closing, let me ask you this question. It’s a fair question. How's your faith today? Do
you worry? Are you afraid? Do you understand the God you claim that you love? For many
individuals the adverse circumstances overcome their thinking and rob them of their trust and
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their confidence in the plan of God for their lives because they don't really love Him. They are
looking at the situation. The adverse circumstances short circuit their faith. The time is coming
when we are going to be called to the witness stand and we will be cross-examined by Satan. Our
faith will be tested and only our personal love for the Father will sustain us at that time so I'm
asking you, do you love God? Do you trust Him? Listen to what Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians
4:8-10,
“We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not despairing;
persecuted but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; always carrying about in the body
the dying of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body.”
This is how we
represent Christ to our generation, revealing Christ through our own trials, through our own tests,
through the circumstances that we face in our lives. What was this lesson about? Faith. Do you
love God? Do you trust God? Do you have confidence in God's plan? Do you have courage
letting this love motivate you? This is the power of your faith. The power of your faith is your
personal love for God. If you don't have personal love for God, you're going to be a weak
believer. Personal love for God is one of the problem-solving devices that we talk about on the
FLOT line of your soul. It’s one-half of the virtue love package. The other half is impersonal
love for all mankind. We have personal love for God the Father which is our motivational virtue
and our functional virtue is impersonal love for all mankind. I hope you’re listening. I hope
you’re learning. I hope you’re figuring this out. The power of your faith is in your personal love
for God. I don’t know if anybody has ever told you this before but I hope you learned it today.
Do you love Him?
In this fascinating episode, we delve into the startling political shifts as prominent figures like Mitt Romney and Van Jones show unexpected praise for former President Donald Trump. Mike Deller discusses the implications of these endorsements and what they reveal about the current state of the Republican Party. With insight from various commentators and listeners, the episode explores the dynamics of power, media influence, and political allegiances in today's landscape.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
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It's a little bit wild to look around and see all of these people who have hated Donald Trump now just openly sort of praise him. Do you ever think you'd see Mitt Romney praising Donald Trump? Mitt Romney's out. What's he got to gain? After trashing MAGA, and attacking you and me, and attacking Donald Trump, I mean, it's crazy. I think it was Eric Erickson out of Atlanta who posted something on X that just kind of puts it in perspective. FBI's Christopher Wray resigns. Time makes Trump the man of the year. ABC pays him $15 million. Did you hear that? Over the weekend, ABC... had a settlement with Trump because George Stephanopoulos lied about him, said that he was adjudicated to have committed a rape against that goofy writer, that E. Jean Carroll lady. The jury specifically said they did not conclude that he raped her. So Stephanopoulos was forced to apologize in a written statement to Trump. They had to give him $15 million. Tim Cook goes off to Mar-a-Lago. Yeah, that Tim Cook. The opposition to Pete Hegseth has pretty much collapsed. ProPublica was claiming that he wasn't invited to West Point, and he was. The left keeps losing, and they are losing their minds, as Eric put it. And he's right. And that brings me to somebody like Mitt Romney. Did he lose his mind when he was accusing Trump of being a fascist and a dictator and MAGA was awful? Or has he lost his mind now? Here's what he said over the weekend. This is Mitt Romney, the outgoing U.S. senator and failed presidential candidate and bitter opponent of Donald Trump and MAGA. Listen to the tune he's singing today.
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Do you think that there's still do you still think there's going to be a post Trump Republican Party or is MAGA now the Republican Party?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, MAGA is the Republican Party and Donald Trump is the Republican Party today. And if you were to ask me who the nominee will be in 2028, I think it'll be J.D. Vance. All right. He's smart. Well-spoken. Part of the MAGA movement. You said something pretty harsh about him a few months ago, though. You could not have less respect for somebody than long ago. I'm not going to rehash history. And we've worked together in the Senate since then. But but I you know, that that is what the Republican Party is. And will the party need to change? Look, the Republican Party has become the party of the working class, middle class voter. And you've got to give Donald Trump credit for having done that, taking that away from the Democrats. Democrats pushed him out.
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Wait a minute. Time out. A few months ago, you said you could have less respect for anybody than the respect you have now. For J.D. Vance. Now you're praising him as the likely 2028 nominee. Now you're praising Donald Trump for having the party become the party of the working class. Now MAGA is the party. And you seem hunky-dory with it. Mitt Romney. What the heck is going on? This scares me. This is too much. Van Jones. Did you hear what Van Jones said over the weekend? Guy on CNN. Remember him, Mr. White Lash? All right, you got Mitt Romney seemingly having a complete change of heart about Donald Trump. Now check out CNN's Van Jones.
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Guys, can we cut it out? Donald Trump is not an idiot. Donald Trump, let me just be very clear. Donald Trump is smarter than me, you, and all critics. You know why we know? Because he has the White House, the Senate. The House. Totally agree. The popular vote. He has a massive media ecosystem bigger than the mainstream built around him and for him and a religious fervor in a political movement around him. And his best buddy is the richest person in the history of the world. And the most relevant Kennedy is with him. This dude is a phenomenon. He is the most powerful human on Earth and in our lifetime.
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All right, I want to know what's going on, and I'm going to turn to the smartest audience on the planet. 1-800-655-MIKE. All I know is it all makes me very nervous. I don't like this. I'd rather have them hammering away at us. Call us all deplorables again. I feel better. I feel more comfortable in that role. I want Hillary to call us deplorables. I don't want Van Jones praising Donald Trump as the smartest guy on the planet. I don't want Mitt Romney saying MAGA is the present and the future and we became the party of the working class. What's going on? It's like something's going to happen bad. I mean, what in the world is happening here? Can you explain it? I mean, simple question. Was Mitt Romney lying? Just a few months ago when he was condemning all of us and condemning Trump? Or is he lying now? Is Van Jones accurately portraying Donald Trump as the smartest guy in the universe? And he's smarter than any of us put together? And he did it all? I mean, these guys, that could be a campaign ad. What exactly is going on? 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. Happy Monday. It's Monday, December the 16th. They're trying to crack the drone mystery. What the heck's going on with the drones? Are we under attack? Nancy Pelosi took a terrible fall. She had to have a total hip replacement. She's in her mid-80s. That's not good. We've got a lot of breaking news to cover for you. But I want to start right here, right now, with these flip-flops from people like Mitt Romney and Van Jones. Just what in the Sam heck is going on? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I hope you join us.
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Mike Gallagher.
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One of my kids sent me a Christmas playlist from, I don't even know how to pronounce it, Sufjian Stevens? Sufjian Stevens? Sufjan Stevens. It's the coolest Christmas music I've ever heard. I don't know anything about the guy. I don't know who he is, if he's British or American or who he is. Suf... It's S-U-F-J... It's got an odd first name, and the Christmas music that he has is so quirky and different and really, really cool. One of my kids really, really loves his music, so there's that. A lot of text messages on the MyPillow text line. Mike, I believe all the flip-flop talking heads right now need to understand this. I've got no trust with them. If they really believe what they say, then put words into action. Prove it. Nebraska, Mike, you're right. Something's wrong here. Weren't we just garbage? Florida, I think they're figuring out that if they can't beat them, you join them. I also think Romney was hoping the Democrats would win, but since they lost, he's got to jump ship, and now he's got to agree with the Trump MAGA country. And finally, Arkansas, they're all just kissing fanny so President Trump will have mercy on them and not send them to prison. There is a big concern about retribution. Charlie's in Minneapolis. Charlie, Merry Christmas. What's up with Mitt Romney? Merry Christmas to you.
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Thank you. I think that you can rest assured, Mitt Romney still hates Donald Trump. He just was stating the fact like the sky is blue. Donald Trump is the head of the party, and J.D. Vance is the leading contender for 2028.
SPEAKER 20 :
And he still hates them both.
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Absolutely.
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Yep, yep. You could be right. You could be right. Thanks. Pam's in Atlanta. Hi, Pam. Merry Christmas.
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Merry Christmas, Mike. I think I have the answer.
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I'm ready. I'm ready.
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All the snakes are trying to play nice and pet the tiger.
SPEAKER 20 :
But why? Why do they want to pet the tiger? The tiger might bite them.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're guilty of so many things, and they're lying low.
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I know. I don't know what's going on. Isn't there a part of you that's worried about it, why they're all flipping around like this?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I don't like it, but I understand it.
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Well, I'll take it. I mean, I'll take it. Maybe it has to do with the pardons. You know, maybe they're worried that Trump's going to come after the Liz Cheney's of the world. I mean, here was what Bernie Sanders said on NBC News over the weekend, how Trump ought to excuse me, how Biden ought to seriously consider pardoning people like Liz Cheney in case Trump comes a calling.
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In light of what the president-elect said to me, that yes, he does think that members of the January 6th committee should go to jail, do you think that Mr. Biden should issue preemptive pardons for the entire January 6th committee?
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Well, I think he might want to consider that very seriously. Look, that is an outrageous statement. This is what authoritarianism is all about. It's what dictatorship is all about. You do not arrest elected officials who disagree with you, who undertake an investigation.
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Now, let me ask you a question. If Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson... Did things wrong, and I believe they did, with the January 6th committee? Shouldn't they be held accountable? Well, let's look at Benny Thompson for a moment. He was on MSNBC over the weekend. Listen to this clip, and you tell me if this doesn't sound like somebody who is very, very nervous. Well, let me say this. If the president...
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in his infinite wisdom, determined that the work of our committee was legitimate and that we should not be penalized for doing what we as members of Congress should do, and he offers that pardon, I will take it. Look, I know what the Trump administration say they will do. If he says it, he will try to do it.
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You want a pardon for what? What did you do wrong, Benny Thompson? I'll bet Liz Cheney's hoping for a pardon. I think these people committed egregious acts of malfeasance. That January 6th committee was a witch hunt. And bogus from day one. It was a joke. It was a sham. It was a disgrace. In fact, even people like Stephen A. Smith, who's the bombastic opinionated sports guy from over at ESPN, even he believes that January 6th was an inside job.
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My big issue is that I'm really, really sick and tired of every time I turn around finding something else. that the Democrats have lied about or downplayed or misrepresented along the way. I mean, I see Republicans like Megyn Kelly or Officer Tatum or Candace Owens or, you know, the Sean Hannity's of the world. You know what I'm getting tired of? You know what I'm getting to the Democratic Party? You know what I'm getting really pissed off about? I'm getting really ticked off. And every time they open their mouth about something pertaining to y'all, they seem right to make the case that the right had a monopoly on insidious, evil tendencies, corrupt tendencies, duplicitous, hypocritical, untruthful tendencies. And every time They made those accusations. We turn around and find out. I don't know about y'all, but I'm sick of all of it. I'm sick of all of it. They've actually made Donald Trump look like he was right instead of them.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
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Wow, what a weekend. Trump at the Army-Navy game. Nancy Pelosi took a spill, had to get a hip replacement over in Germany. What is she, 84, 85 years old? George Stephanopoulos and ABC ordered to spend $15 million to settle with Donald Trump after Stephanopoulos slandered Trump by saying that a jury had found him guilty of rape. That is not true. That is not correct. And ABC said, we're sorry. We got it wrong. Mitt Romney goes on TV. Oh, MAGA's the future. Oh, J.D. Vance is great. Oh, Trump's wonderful. What? Van Jones. Trump's the smartest guy on the planet over at CNN. And there was also some sports news. I don't want to spend a lot of time on this because it's only going to get us in a lot of – I'm in such a great mood. Gosh, I was in South Carolina over the weekend. News Talk 98.9 WORD had their big Christmas party over at the Montebello neighborhood. They had a beautiful spread. Steve Senecroppi hosted a big party for all the radio stations in the radio cluster there in the upstate. And I'm so proud to be back in Greenville again on that great radio station where it all started for me back in 1990. 89. Wow. Long time ago. It's where it all began, really, where I cut my teeth and talk radio. And I've been on the air there pretty continuously. Joey and Peg and I went to lunch at a place called Select in Greer. Greer, South Carolina, has turned into this small-town USA Mayberry restaurant. idyllic community, a downtown area with all kinds of great shops and restaurants. And I think Select has become like my favorite restaurant in the country. We had a chicken dish there for dinner the other night. It was one of the best things I've ever eaten. Anyway, there was a guy. The waitress came over and said, there's a guy sitting in the corner, has been listening to you since 1989, and wanted to buy your brunch. And we went over and said hi to him. His name was George. He was embarrassed because he said, I didn't want her to tell you guys until... you guys left or until I left, I said, no, no, no. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to thank you. And he was so gracious and so kind and such a terrific, terrific person. And believe me, we're the last, you didn't need to buy us lunch. That was so nice of him. But it just felt good to reconnect in the upstate. I love that place. The Christmas lights up everywhere. It was chilly. It was cold. I had a great stay at the Hotel Hartness, which is a beautiful new destination hotel for many people in the upstate. Beautiful spa, great restaurant, Patterson. I just had a great time. And it's just hard to be down right now. Our Christmastime campaign for prison fellowship, those kids that we raise money for the children of people who are incarcerated, my goodness, we soared past our goal Friday of 5,416 kids. And we've got nine days to go until Christmas. 5,831 children have been sponsored. If you go to mikeonline.com and you want to bless a child with a Christmas present from their incarcerated parent, a Bible, and a personal message from their mom and dad, please go to mikeonline.com. I don't know how interested you are in the Caitlin Clark controversy. I know that Caitlin Clark was named by Time Magazine as the Athlete of the Year. She's the female basketball star who is just a force of nature. She's a great, great player. She came from Iowa, right, guys? And she has now put a spotlight on the WNBA. in a way that nobody has in a long time. I mean, it's the WNBA. It's the female version of the NBA. And people are mad at Caitlin Clark because she made a statement about how she honors and respects white players, black players, and she doesn't want to take anything away from the black players of the WNBA because who kind of made the league what it is today, such as it is. And people are mad at her for becoming woke, for bending the knee, for, you know, exerting your white privilege. There's a guy I really like over, he's the, what they call him, the commandant or the, is he the commandant of Barstool Sports? Dave Portnoy. And he went on a rant defending Caitlin Clark. And I feel pretty much the same way he does. I mean, she's obviously... Here's what she's having to do. She's having to counter the criticism that she's getting too much attention as a white woman in the WNBA. Now, do you realize how racist that is? You want to talk real racism? Why do you care if she's white? Well, obviously, the co-owner of the Mystics in the WNBA does. I give you Sheila Johnson, the co-owner... of the Washington Mystics, one of the teams in the WNBA, reacting to the news that Kaitlyn Clark, a white player, was named Time Magazine's Athlete of the Year. Listen to this vicious and, I would say, racist response from the black co-owner of a WNBA team called the Mystics.
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I feel really bad because I've seen so many players of color that are equally as talented, and they never got the recognition that they should have. And I think right now it is time for that to happen. So last night we read Time magazine where Caitlin Clark was named Athlete of the Year. Why couldn't they have put the whole WNBA on that cover?
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That is so awful. That is so sickening. Why couldn't they put the whole league... How the heck are you going to put the whole league on the cover? How many hundreds and hundreds of players do you have? What are you talking about? What a despicable... And you know why? Because Kaitlyn Clark is white. If a black WNBA player was on the cover of Time Magazine for the Athlete of the Year... That woman wouldn't have said a word. You see, racism goes in a lot of different directions. And the days are gone where it was believed that only black people could be the victims of racism. Caitlin Clark is between a rock and a hard place. She's got to survive in this league. And as I understand it, her statement, and I don't have the statement. Was it a written statement? I don't even know what. We'll see. I'll track it down for you here in just a moment. But ultimately, don't be mad at people like Caitlin Clark for trying to go along and get along, even though our buddy Scott Jennings from CNN sort of called her out on it. And I'll play his clip for you here in just a moment. Be upset with people like Sheila Johnson, who display an egregious racism, complaining that a white woman from the WNBA is on the cover of Time magazine as Athlete of the Year. That's the real racism. There is an inherent bias. There is a bigotry. That is oozing from that lady's mouth. That's racism. She's a bigot. Sheila Johnson is a stone cold anti-white bigot. And I don't know how else to describe it. Maybe you do. Let's dive in. 800-655-MIKE. It's the Monday before Christmas week. We've got nine days to go. We've got a full week together, you and me, before we go on our Christmas vacation. I hope you join us here in the Relief Factor Studios. Give me your reaction to all of this. 800-655-MIKE. Again, we won't spend a ton of time on this, but I want to touch on it because it made a lot of headlines over the weekend, and I want to get your assessment of it. 800-655-6453. Call or text. Join us. White Christmas Just like the ones I used to know Good
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Where the treetops glisten and I choose to listen to hear praises.
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The Mike Gallagher Show. The donors are really annoyed. But I will say that the donors and the Democratic officials who are now so outraged about the conduct, as you said, the press knew all this. So did they. They stood silent when Joe Biden's operatives crushed Bobby Kennedy and Dean Phillips and rigged the rules. They stood silent as he stayed in the race and decided he was going to run for another term.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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Last year, George Stephanopoulos interviewed South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace. It was a contentious interview. We played a lot of it on the show. During the interview, Stephanopoulos repeatedly claimed that Trump was found liable for rape in a civil lawsuit that was filed by this kooky E. Jean Carroll woman. As a result, Trump sued George Stephanopoulos and ABC. Well, over the weekend, it was announced that Trump won. ABC settled with Trump for $15 million. Actually, $16. According to the settlement, ABC News is going to pay $15 million for smearing Trump, as Stephanopoulos did, as a charitable contribution. to a presidential foundation and museum to be established by or for plaintiff as presidents of the United States of America have established in the past. They're going to help build Trump's presidential library. $15 million. Additionally, the network will pay $1 million in Trump's legal fees. And I saw somewhere that Stephanopoulos is going to have to pay that out of pocket. Which, that's appropriate. If I'm Stephanopoulos' boss, and you've got the network in a lot of trouble, how about you pony up? Now, I predicted Stephanopoulos wouldn't even show up for work yesterday. He did. He was on the ABC, what's it called, This Week, right? They never mentioned the story. This was a bombshell. And they didn't even have the integrity or the guts to admit or to confirm what they did. Stephanopoulos was there, never acknowledged this massive settlement with President-elect Donald Trump. Instead of even mentioning it, Stephanopoulos, the gutless wonder, the little coward, focused on stories about drones and Syria. Stephanopoulos also promptly deleted his ex-account over the weekend. Because the little guy couldn't take the heat. I mean, it's so ludicrous that... one of Clinton's top advisors became a so-called journalist at ABC. Who could look at that guy and think he could ever have a shred of objectivity? And whatever you think of the way this has all played out, believe you me, ABC is not looking very kindly right now on Georgie Boy. Might get fired. I mean, that's the kind of thing where a company says, you know what, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. We don't need this guy. He's nothing but a headache. And what a gutless move to not even acknowledge. I mean, he should have looked into the camera and apologized on camera. Instead, he's got to get out his checkbook and write a big fat check. And then they're still doing it over on MSNBC. Another one of these screwballs, this one, Simone Sanders. Ever seen this Lulu, this Looney Tune? She's like right out of the Joy Reid category of wild-eyed lunatics over on MSNBC. So she breaks down the $15 million settlement. by lying again and repeating what got Stephanopoulos in trouble. Hey, Simone, maybe you're going to be sued next for saying this.
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I would just say, I mean, this feels like it has a real chilling effect. Like, I mean, shout out to the standards department. OK, standards is always making sure that we are keeping the bar high and substantive and accurate. But what George Stephanopoulos said in that interview, I mean, it it seems to hold up with the judge after the fact. And now he's news organization and himself. George Stephanopoulos himself is paying a million dollars of his own money to the lawyers and ABC and 15 million dollars. It's insane.
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Oh, is it insane? You know what's insane? You repeating what got Stephanopoulos sued in the first place. So maybe Simone Sanders and MSNBC, you guys will be next. And the deliciousness of Trump having his presidential library funded in part by ABC News? Holy cow. How good is that? You know, these people that were laughing at him before the election, they're not laughing now. This disgusting Greg Popovich from the San Antonio Spurs. Remember what he said before the election? This clip keeps popping up on social media. There's a clip with Popovich that keeps popping up on X of him just denigrating Trump. He's a clown. He's a liar. You wouldn't let him babysit your kids. First of all, are you a San Antonio Spurs fan? I know he's a great coach. He's got a lot of world championships. Why does he have to sit around and opine about Donald Trump?
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heck is wrong with these people what gets into their heads that anybody cares what what coach pop thinks of donald trump this this is the clip you might have seen pop up on social media check this out so he's pathetic he's small he's a whiner we all know that but you wouldn't have babysit your kids you wouldn't hire him if you had a small business you want that man in your business there's no way but we're going to vote for him for president Because he's strong? I mean, Kamala Harris whipped his ass in the debate. Just obviously. And he's running ever since. He doesn't want any part of her. Because, as she said before, she's eaten many of his type for lunch. As an attorney general, as a prosecutor. He's a small fry compared to some of the people she's going after. And he knows it, so all he can do is cut people down and do what he does. We've all seen all that kind of stuff. The ones that you can be even more angry about, because he's sick. He's a damaged man. He grew up the biggest wannabe there ever was in New York, right? We all know that. He wanted to be in the inner circle, but they laughed at him his whole life. Just like Obama made fun of him at that dinner, and he was about to melt. That angered him so bad, it was scary.
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Yeah, they laughed at him. Hey, Popovich, who's laughing now? We're laughing at you because you're a clown. You ought to stick to a basketball game because that's your area of expertise. That was before the election. Who's laughing now, Coach Pop? Because we're laughing at you. How does a guy like that show his face after such a ridiculous tirade that he did over and over and over again? Enough of these degenerate clowns. Let me talk about something happy, like the Prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign. Look, that's not partisan. Everybody ought to lift up a child at Christmas time. We are almost at 6,000 kids. Who's going to take me over? Tell you what, I'll make a phone call to the donor who makes a $30 donation to provide a child of an incarcerated parent through the Angel Tree Ministry, the Prison Fellowship Ministry. We're at 5,973 children right now. We're 27 kids away from hitting 6,000 kids reached. Please go to MikeOnline.com. Remind these children that they're never forgotten. And whoever takes us over $6,000, we'll keep an eye on it, and I'll give you a call and thank you in person. It costs just $30 to bless a child with a Christmas present, a Bible, and a message from their incarcerated parent. Who's going to take us over $6,000? You can do it. Come on, go to MikeOnline.com and donate now. And thank you. Christmas means giving, and for my money, Christmas means MyPillow. Make it a MyPillow Christmas for somebody on your list because the Christmas extravaganza is well underway. Because a big box retailer canceled an order, Mike Lindell has thousands of MyPillows to move. Well, he wants to pass the savings on to you, so check out this offer. You can order a standard classic MyPillow, and it's normally $49.98 for just $45. $14.88 with promo code MikeG. Limit of 10. This is the pillow that started it all, the pillow that never goes flat, stays nice and cool all through the night. You can throw it in the washer and the dryer as often as you want. You can get a classic standard MyPillow for $14.88 with promo code MikeG. A queen size, normally $69.98. You'll get it for just $18.88 with promo code MikeG. Or a king size, Normally $79.98. You can order it for $19.88 apiece. Limit $10, please, during Mike's incredible Christmas extravaganza from MyPillow.com. Look, if you haven't been to the site in a while, you can get all your Christmas shopping done by going to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Specials Square. Click on that box, and then with any order you place, enter the promo code MikeG, and you'll save big. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. It's the Christmas extravaganza sale going on right now at MyPillow.
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This is Rush to Reason.
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You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
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With your host, John Rush.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did! Get a job, Turk! You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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And it is. Happy Monday, everybody. Welcome, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Tom from High Five joining us now. How are you, sir? I'm doing well. How are you doing today? I'm doing very well. So you guys all ready for Christmas and New Year's, I should say?
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Yeah, absolutely. You know, we're gearing up as the holidays come in. So do the calls, as you probably know.
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So, yeah, absolutely.
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We're gearing up.
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So a little bit of advice from you guys on, you know, as we go through the holidays and people will do all sorts of things, there'll be. Everything from extra load on the plumbing, sewer, pipes, all of that, also on the electrical end of things, depending upon how many folks you have in your home. What things should folks be – how should I say this? If there's anything they could do on the front side, what would that be?
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, one of the things that we're definitely recommending people do, and I talked about this last time you and I spoke, but we always recommend now's a good time of year to get your sewer line inspected. Make sure you're not going to run into any big issues, especially, you know, it's hard to get in touch with people. Obviously, it's not hard to get in touch with High Five, but we'll get out to your house and make sure that you're prepped for the holidays so that you don't find yourself on Christmas Day without, you know, with some kind of clog or anything like that. So we're here to help and Yeah, you kind of touched on electrical as well. You know, with Christmas lights and everything like that, just greater use and wear and tear on your electrical systems, it's just good to make sure that your home is prepared to face all that extra wear. So we're currently offering $500 off any electrical panel upgrade as well. So that's obviously a huge perk that we're extending to your listeners right now. So, yeah, all parts of your house need to be cared for, especially during the holidays.
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That's awesome. And for some of you listening where you may – I don't know, you know, Tom, there's everything from, you know, people do, you know, Christmas lights this time of the year to all sorts of other things that may be happening. And, you know, they maybe are, you know, running an extension cord in some places where, you know, let's face it, there could be some trip hazards and just not a good situation at the end of the day. You guys can add. And for those of you listening, believe me, you can add outlets. In fact, is there really any limitation on where you can't put an outlet?
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Not really. You know, there might be certain regulations and obviously our professional certified electricians will make sure that we're following everything that needs to be followed, make sure you and your family are safe. But yeah, exactly like you're saying, electrical outlets outside have been, you know, one of our main things that we've been getting lots of calls about because it just adds a lot of ease and comfort to the homeowner. Like you mentioned, trip hazards and other issues with extension cords. So absolutely, we can equip your home for whatever it is that you need.
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Especially for those of you that are listening where you find yourself always, you know, man, I've got to drag a cord out to do whatever. And, again, Tom, it could be any number of different things. And, again, with all the different folks that I have listening, we've got a lot of do-it-yourselfers and so on that are out there that do things out of the garage or the shop or whatever. And nothing worse than having to drag an extension cord out every time you want to do something where if there was an outlet there, you just wouldn't have to do it. So for a lot of you listening, it could be not only – You know, Tom, the safety factor, but just the whole time savings factor as well.
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Yeah, absolutely. It's a huge time saver. And, you know, we always talk about, you know, how to avoid those sort of scary things that can happen when things go wrong. But obviously your home is one of your biggest assets, and it's great to invest in the things that are going to actually add value to your home, add value to your day-to-day life. You know, we're currently offering $500 off tanked water heaters. So, you know, if you're not getting as much hot water as you need or if your water is too hard, we've got water treatment systems available. touchless faucets, touchless toilets. So really whatever it is that people want to add to their home, it really contributes more to the day-to-day life than people even know. So absolutely the holidays are the right time to start those projects.
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And you guys know when I talk a lot on Fix It Radio on Saturday mornings about the upgrades and things you can do to your home, things that add value to your home, whereby maybe it makes your home worth more dollars, or, Tom, it makes that home more sellable. Somebody's looking between two different houses, but yours has a few added touches that the next one doesn't have. All of these things at the end of the day can actually help you on that end of things also.
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Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what, I'm currently on the house market, and when I go into a house and I see outdated systems and things like that, it's a headache I don't want to deal with. So 100%, I think that it adds more value than people even realize.
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Absolutely. And folks, even the whole lighting end of things and looking at some of the smart lighting, maybe, Tom, next month when I have you on, we can get into a little bit more of kind of how the smart end of things works, which on the electrical side, which... They're doing some things even on the plumbing side now as well. I mean, bottom line, you can really get things dialed in if you really want to.
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Yeah, absolutely. Add value to your home. Add value to your life. And, yeah, you know what? I want to get our electrician service manager on the phone with you so that he can tell you more about all that. Perfect.
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So absolutely, let's chat about that. Okay, we'll do that. We'll do that. All right, in the meantime, Merry Christmas to all of you guys, to Levi, Cassie, everybody there, the whole team. We really appreciate you guys and wish you guys the best for Christmas and New Year's. And, man, this year has flown by. That's all I'm going to say.
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I know. I know. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And thank you for the call. And yeah, to all your listeners, God bless and Merry Christmas.
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God Country Reason Now back to John Rush.
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All right, as a reminder also, before I do question of the day, we need Christmas song requests for Christmas Day. And if there's any short stories, videos that would make good audio that you would like to hear on Christmas Eve, we would welcome those as well. Just either send them to me in an email or text message, either one, and I'll get those to Charlie, and he can get those set for those two days. 307-282-22, of course, is our text line. Or you can send us an email. Just go right to rushtoreason.com. The impossible question of the day. This is from Friday. What do the residents of the Galapagos Island use in place of a formal postage system? It is a barrel. There you go. I guess it's a small enough item or small enough island. You just go throw your mail in the barrel and there you go. Today's impossible question. Who wrote Christmas doesn't come from a store? Maybe Christmas perhaps means a little bit more. So who wrote that? Now, that's all, you know, in fun, and Christmas is great, and we want to, you know, have as many of the songs and different things that we can play for Christmas Day in more sad news. And I have to mention this because it's all over the news. I do not know all of the details. This came out not long before actually driving down to the station today, and that is the tragedy, the shooting that's happened in Madison, Wisconsin. It was at a private school, Abundant Life Christian School. At this point, there are two dead, six injured, and that's about all the details at this point. We know, and you guys know my rules on this, I will not make any sorts of speculations as to who it was or what happened or any of the details because, frankly, we won't know until more comes out here in the few days left. But it's never good when these sorts of things happen. And, of course, as we know, the other thing that will happen is, you know, the left will jump on this. And this is where they really start pushing, you know, gun control and all sorts of things along those lines. It will be interesting in this particular case, though. And I feel free to say this. It will be interesting to see what happens in this case, given it's a Christian school and not a public school. In other words, how the left reacts to this. So, again, I don't know the details, don't know exactly what happened, don't know who was involved, who was even injured or killed. Again, we don't—there's way too much information. unknowns, I guess I should say, to really understand what's happening at this point. And more will be unfolding as, of course, the day and the weeks go on. But, of course, our prayers go out to all of those individuals that have been affected by that. And I think it's just one of those reminders that, you know, You never know on any given day what may happen. So love your family, love your kids, give them a hug before they leave, give them a kiss, all those things. And sometimes we get so busy and so involved in what's going on with life. And yes, life becomes that way. I get that. But sometimes we forget to sort of take those moments. And yet, you know, there's no guarantees. I talk about that with Michael Bailey. He's our mobile estate planner. You'll hear from him in this next block, and the reality is we don't know. We really don't. We don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, and this is a reminder of that, and it can be any time, any place. Unfortunately, we live in a fallen world with some very sick individuals, and I mean that sincerely. Anybody that would take someone else's life is sick, literally sick and twisted in one way or another. There's a screw loose somewhere. Sorry. You don't take another person's life without having something like that. And I don't care if you're a mass murderer and it's premeditated or it's a school shooter or it's a whatever. You don't take someone else's life without having a screw loose. That I can guarantee you. I don't know this whole situation, but that's one of those things that I can guarantee. So at any rate, we will see how this all plays out. But, yeah, that's all over the news. I just want to make sure that I mention that in case you hadn't seen the news yet. So be keeping those people in your prayers. All right, other big news. And this has been going on for a little bit now. I didn't talk about it much last week, and several people even asked me if I would. I didn't have a lot of opinions last week. And as I watched through the weekend and followed a few different people and saw some different video and so on, and I've had several of you text and ask me, what are my thoughts on all of the drones back east, New Jersey, that area? What's my thought? And I am no expert in drones. I'll be the first to admit, although I feel like and I do my best to have common sense and apply that to most things. You guys also know that I am about as anti-conspiratorial as it gets. Now, I was on the side of anti-vaccines and all the COVID stuff and so on, although I didn't see any of those as being conspiratorial because there was facts to back those things up. So a lot of people maybe on the left thought I was a conspiracy theorist, but I was not. I was using real data, real science, and things that we and Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House talked about every single Thursday, so I didn't put myself in that camp at that time, nor do I now. I don't in the case of these drones. Now, I know that the new name for UFOs is something different, still UFOs. Do I think this has anything to do with that? No, I do not. Do I believe in extraterrestrials and, you know, aliens from other planets? No, I do not. And some of you would say, well, why? I don't. No proof. No proof. In fact, the little bit that you see is sort of like Bigfoot. Why is it that every picture of every flying saucer and every alien is fuzzy? Just like every picture of Bigfoot is fuzzy. Has anybody ever seen a clear image of Bigfoot? Charlie, have you ever seen a clear image of Bigfoot? No. They don't exist. And part of that's because he doesn't or whatever it is. She does. Is Bigfoot married, Charlie? Is there a little Bigfoot? I mean, Littlefoot? I don't know. I guess there's a cartoon Littlefoot or something. Wasn't there a movie or something, Littlefoot, at one time, Charlie? Disney something or other? I don't know. Anyways, do I believe in any of these things? No, I do not. I know some people probably think that I'm weird for not believing in these things, but I don't believe in these things. Folks, I don't even believe in ghosts at all. It's not scriptural. Now, before you go off on me and talk to me about the few, few minor places in Scripture that talk about ghosts, remember that what was happening there was very, very specific to a certain situation going on that Scripture and or, you know, God himself was involved with. And I don't believe that's on an everyday level. And I know I'm going to get all sorts of messages and videos and stuff sent my way, but no, I don't believe in ghosts. Just don't. I have my own theory of where we go when we die. Yes, we go to heaven, but I have my own theory on even that whole end of things, which is different than most. And I will not get into that today because I'm not going to debate people and get into a deep discussion on something that, frankly, no one can prove. Most people can't even prove what they think happens when you die as far as heaven and all of that goes. Do I believe we'll spend eternity with Christ, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit? Absolutely. Yes, I do. How that all happens, though, honestly... is open for debate on all sorts of levels, and the Church itself has been debating those things, Charlie, for, what, the last 2,000-plus years or so, I'm guessing? And with some really getting out there on different beliefs and even breaking communion over certain things along those lines, which, by the way, is really stupid. But I'm digressing, going back to these... Drones in New Jersey. Do I believe it has anything to do with some sort of an extraterrestrial spaceship out in the ocean that these things are flying up out of and so on? Hogwash. No, I do not. Do I think that there are a lot of people out there that would like you to think that? Yes. I think there's even some folks inside of government that would like you to think that. I really do. And I say that to say this, going back to Scripture. Scripture is very clear about the second coming of Christ. Again, lots of debate over when that would take place. And I'm not going to get into that. That's not what I'm here for. That's not what this program is about. But we all, at least I do as a Christian, believe in the second coming of Christ. Now, with that second coming of Christ, and I think most people believe, it's a matter of when that happens, of course, but most people believe there will be a rapture, what it's called, of the saints. And you've seen the movie, you know, a lot of people have anyways, the movie Left Behind where, you know, folks are doing different things. And when that event takes place, some people just vanish, go missing. They're caught up, if you would, quote unquote. My own personal belief is as we get closer to that, this whole UFO nonsense is so when that does take place, that's what they'll blame it on. They won't blame it on a second coming of Christ. They'll blame it on—or attribute it to, I should say. Blame is not the right word. They won't attribute it to Christ bringing all of his followers to him. They'll attribute it to aliens and things along those lines. That's my own belief. And, again, you can debate me on that, but that's what I feel. I think we're being conditioned— if you would, for that event. Does it mean we're getting closer to that event? Folks, we're closer every day. When is it coming? I don't know. And by the way, if anybody tells you they do, they're a wackadoodle. They don't know either. Run, because they don't know either. Many a Christian leader... Over the course of my time, even, because I grew up in the church, as did Charlie, I can't tell you how many times I've heard somebody give a somewhat specific time frame as to when Christ would return. And it, as we know, hasn't happened yet. But I do believe that a lot of this whole UFO thing that is going on out there and even more folks trying to dig into different things and even Capitol Hill the other day talking about underwater beings and cities and so on, I just feel like a lot of that, and unfortunately there's even Christians involved in some of that, I just think that we're being conditioned to have that event attributed to something other than what it really is. Because they're not going to want to attribute that to something spiritual, something godly. No, they're going to try to attribute it to something else, because that's what man does, by the way. We try to take everything away from God and replace it with something else. In this case, I believe it is aliens and UFOs. So that, to me, is why you're seeing a lot of different things, even with these drones, regarding that. I don't think any of those are true. And the problem in today's world with AI and everything else we have going on, you can't even believe half of the images and videos that you see. I say half. It's probably way above that even. You have to be really careful with what you're seeing in a video and believing it's true or not because with all of what goes on with AI and manipulation of video and even sound and pictures and so on, yeah, you cannot believe most of what you see. So be really careful when you tell somebody, well, I saw a video that – okay. Sorry. Sorry. Do I see it with my own two eyes? Yeah, I'm not believing that. Now, what I will say in closing, because I've got an expert that's somewhat of an expert that's going to join us at 4 o'clock to talk about this. Do I believe these drones, you know, do I believe they've come from inside the U.S.? Yes. Do I believe these are a foreign player? No. No. I believe these are coming from our own either military, Department of Energy, something along those lines. And there's even theories on the Department of Energy that there's some nuclear warheads and things like that that they may be looking for and so on. Folks, again, I don't know. What I do know is this. All of these drones that I've seen images of have the lights on them, which, by the way, are FAA required. All of them are flying at 400 feet or below, which is also an FAA requirement. So I would kindly ask anybody that would think this is a foreign adversary that's doing these things and or an alien, why would a foreign adversary or aliens abide by what the FAA says? That's a really simple question if you ask me. Why would an alien ship sending drones in and or a foreign adversary play by the rules as to what the FAA has set? And the answer is they wouldn't. They wouldn't. And, again, I don't believe there's any extraterrestrials anyway, so that's out of the picture for me. But a foreign adversary, would they abide by what the FAA has set? No. They would not. And there's even some discussions out there that this is a foreign adversary trying to take out Donald Trump before ever taking office January 20th. Again, folks, common sense would tell you, would tell me, why would they be doing that now when we're over a month out from inauguration? Why would they not be doing this the day of or a day before? Why do this well over a month out? Now, I've got other theories. We'll talk about some of that at 4 o'clock as to why I think our own military may be doing these things and why they may not be owning up to this at this point. I've got my own thoughts and feelings on that. Does any of this make me nervous? No. I've had that question come in on the text line as well. Do any of these make me nervous? No, they do not. Haven't lost an ounce of sleep over these things at all. Again, we'll talk more about that at 4 o'clock. Hi-Fi Plumbing is next. We talked to Tom there a moment ago. And, of course, Levi Cassie, the owners there, great people. 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We are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Jeremy Beck joining me now, filling in for Eric Roark. Appreciate you, Jeremy, by the way. Vice President of Initiatives and Activism at Numbers USA. Welcome back, by the way. Thank you very much. Good to be back. Always a joy having you. Donald Trump has vowed, or pledged, I should say, to limit birthright citizenship as soon as he enters office. Talk to us about that.
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Yeah, so the key word there is limit. Some people say, you know, it's end or abolish, but it's really to clarify the automatic granting of U.S. citizenship to children who are born inside the United States. The problem is, the United States and Canada are the only countries in the developed world who haven't gotten rid of this practice because it's just completely incompatible with the modern world of travel, flights, etc. Right, right. Right now, you could come into the country on a tourist visa or cross the border illegally, spend the weekend, go to an amusement park, deliver a baby, and that baby will be granted U.S. citizenship. And when that baby turns 21, it can then sponsor the parents as well as adult siblings and so on, creating this chain migration. It adds about 400,000 people a year, and those are numbers... That predate the border surge that we've just seen. So we know that the numbers could be so much bigger right now because we've just had 8 million people over the last four years either cross the border illegally, get released into the United States when they were inadmissible, or overstay. a U.S. visitor visa. So these numbers could really be a lot bigger in the coming years, and they make it incredibly difficult for President Trump to fulfill his other campaign promise, which was to basically rectify the mistakes of the Biden administration at the border. It makes it very hard to just say, like, hey, we're going to correct these mistakes. if you are at the same time granting a green card, granting U.S. citizenship to the children born of the people who should not have been admitted in the first place.
SPEAKER 10 :
Should there be any exceptions to that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, first of all, again, we're talking about limiting it, so this doesn't touch U.S. citizens or legal permanent immigrants. If you have a green card here, you're essentially a member of the national community just without the U.S. citizenship. There are proposals in Congress right now for bills to also make exceptions for legal immigrants who aren't necessarily green card holders but are in the country legally and who are serving in the armed forces. Those are the exceptions that bills tend to have.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know what, I can get behind that. I wouldn't have any issues with that. My issue, like you were saying in your explanation, is we call them anchor babies for a reason because in a lot of cases, Jeremy, as you know, and for those of you listening maybe that don't know this, there are some, Jeremy, as you know, will time this just right to where what you just said happens, and that's their shoe-in.
SPEAKER 12 :
There's a birth tourism industry around the world, and very occasionally, every few years or so, there'll be some CBS or PBS or somebody would do some story on it. But it's around the world. They offer tourism packages to come to the United States. to have a baby. Now, you're not supposed to come to the United States for the purpose of having a baby, but it's very easy to say like, oh, I'm not coming to have a baby. I'm coming to visit my family or to, I wanted to see SeaWorld or something like that. And these packages range from the luxurious high-end shopping, you know, get your nails done, all that kind of stuff, to truly dangerous. There's been stories out of New York City and Queens uh... birth tourists who end up uh... you're dying because they've given birth in the squalid conditions uh... but that alone tells you that it's a it's a practice that again is just incompatible with the modern world we shouldn't be uh... we shouldn't have a practice that supports aid global birth tourism industry u.s citizenship should be the most cherished possession in the world agree shouldn't be something that you you know you go to a travel agent pick for to get
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm a big proponent, and we've talked about this before, of a merit-based immigration system. I know this is a little bit of a side jaunt off of what we were talking about in regards to the birthright citizenship. But when it comes to merit-based immigration, do you feel like that's anything at all that Donald Trump can at least start working towards?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I think there's a lot of merit to that discussion. You know, one of our spiritual godmothers of numbers, USA, who chaired the last bipartisan U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform, said, you know, immigration is not a privilege, or it's not a right, it's a privilege. We get to choose, you know, who comes here. And part of that is you want to choose people who you feel, you know, are going to contribute to the society. And we basically have We basically have two kinds of choices. You choose what kind of family members do you want to prioritize. And we support the Barbara Jordan recommendations of you prioritize spouses and minor children. Immigration policy shouldn't be an obstacle to marrying the person you want to marry or adopting or bringing in your minor children. And then the other side is, you know, what kind of workers do we want? What kind of skills do we want to bring in? And there can be an argument for any number of kinds of skills, but how many people in certain industries do we need? And the problem with things like birthright citizenship is it's a complete roll of the dice. It has nothing to do with either of those things. It's not even the minor child of capitalism. a citizen or legal permanent residence, the minor child of a foreign national who's a citizen of another country. And so it's random in that sense. It's very similar to something like the visa lottery, which literally raffles off 50,000 green cards every year. We've got things like that in our immigration system. Part of our legal system that needs to be reformed and a merit-based system could certainly be part of that. President Trump in his first term endorsed the RAISE Act, which was a bill that would it would eliminate extended family automatic chain migration. So you could still sponsor your spouse and your minor child, but you wouldn't then be bringing in adult siblings and their spouses and their children and your parents. Your parents could come and stay on a renewable visa, but they wouldn't be a gateway for entire communities and villages to come here completely regardless of their skill. So that would be something that we'll be looking for. This goes back to the border promises again. Part of the issue, you know, right now you talk about people who are having children here, then they get citizenship, and then because of things like chain migration, they can start sponsoring this new chain of immigration that has nothing to do with the priorities of the American people or the American Congress.
SPEAKER 10 :
And from what I've talked to, Jeremy, when it comes to folks that have already immigrated here, they've gone through the arduous process of making that happen, the very lengthy process of becoming a citizen. I will tell you, Jeremy, that they are probably, in relation to who wants to see things revamped, fixed, and borders shut down, it's them more than it is a lot of regular citizens.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's absolutely right. People who know that immigration... is hard, and in many ways it should be hard. It shouldn't be something that we take lightly, and the people who have gone through the process all the way understand the respect for that. And they tend to be people who truly value it because they've gone through the long, arduous process.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, actually, Jeremy, I think in a lot of cases, I know some of these folks individually, they appreciate and love our country more than some of our own natural citizens do.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's very fair because I didn't choose to become a U.S. citizen. I was granted automatic birthright citizenship because my parents were citizens. But somebody who chooses to join another country's national community and to go through the steps and hoops knowing that there's a chance that they may not make the cut. And ultimately, that is what immigration policy is about. You're setting limits. There are 8 billion people in the world. About a billion people would like to move to the United States here today, if they could, according to polling. And we can't accept a billion people, so we've got to set limits, and we've got to find people who will respect them. And we have to have a government that also respects its own limits. we tend to lose faith in immigration itself, which is not something that we want.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it's not sustainable. I mean, there's no way we could add another billion people on top of the 350 million we have roughly. Not that size-wise we couldn't do it, Jeremy, but just economically speaking and so on, there's just no way we could handle that and be solvent when it's all said and done. We're having a hard time being solvent with what we've got going on, Jeremy, nonetheless adding that.
SPEAKER 12 :
well that's right and you're exactly right it's not a question of how many people we can physically contain you could fit everybody in the state of texas but they'd all be dead in a week right but uh... but it's about how many people we can sustain and we've just seen we've had the the largest wave of immigration in world history over the last four years and really the largest wave of in u.s history over the last thirty years and you've seen what's happened When it comes to housing or roads, traffic, schools, these communities that we heard about all throughout the campaign, when you take a town of 60,000 people and you add 20,000 people to that, you just can't sustain those kinds of numbers.
SPEAKER 10 :
Jeremy, you can't be... You've seen the stories. You can't be the city of Denver and take in what they've taken in and add that budget end of things to it when it's all said and done. I mean, we have a crisis right here in our own back door with the city of Denver. We're in Aurora, so we're right next door as we're talking to you right now. The reality is even a large city can't do it.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's right. You talk about Denver, Aurora, New York City, Chicago. These cities all said, this is bankrupting us. This is bringing us to our knees. I mean, New York City has 8 million people in it, and they couldn't handle the influx. It's just too much too fast. We live in a world of limits, and we have to be responsible with them.
SPEAKER 10 :
I hate to use this analogy, but it's like drinking out of a water fountain correctly versus trying to drink out of a hydrant. I mean, the reality is water is great, it's good, but too much of it will kill us. It's the same situation here.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's exactly right. And on the one hand, you're hydrating yourself, and on the other one, you're blowing your hat off and... And drowning yourself, basically. Yeah, exactly. You're drowning.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I mean, and again, I've made this very well known on our program. I am not against immigration at all. In fact, I know there are certain areas where we definitely need it. Our birth rate is such right now where we really, Jeremy, we don't have a choice, but I'm a big one on... It has to be merit-based. You've got to be bringing something to the table that adds value to what we have going on. Otherwise, I'm sorry, we're going to have to keep the door closed, and you're going to have to either go get some skills that add some value to be able to be here, or you're just going to have to stay where you're at indefinitely. And I know that sounds really harsh, Jeremy, but that's just the reality of it. Question I have for you, because I don't know this answer. How many other countries – let me rephrase this. Are we one of the few countries out there that don't do a merit-based immigration?
SPEAKER 12 :
There are a few. Canada has something like a points system, but we really, our system is pretty unique. You have some countries that basically are nothing but merit and You have cases where they essentially have huge guest worker systems, but people who can never, ever become citizens of those countries. And we have something sort of quite the opposite. Our system has been overwhelmed by extended family chain migration loophole that was not intended in the 1965 Immigration Act. And it's just never been corrected. It's a broken promise that Washington has failed to fix. uh, for 60 years now. And, uh, this is the, this is the time to do it. It was the last time that we moderated our immigration numbers, uh, was a hundred years ago in 1924. It happened to kick off the biggest expansion of the middle class in U S history. It's what made America a middle-class nation. It was one of maybe the five contributing
SPEAKER 10 :
factors yeah needs to happen again and i mean i just know in closing jeremy that if you know you or i and a lot of americans as they get older they look at other places to go and maybe immigrate to or retire to maybe the cost of living is less and so on and jeremy i can't think of a single country that doesn't have some sort of stipulations around what i just said in other words you don't just show up and say okay you know i'm gonna stay until i'm dead it doesn't work that way
SPEAKER 12 :
No. No, you know, you put the shoe on the other foot and you just imagine some country you'd like to visit and say, what if I just never left? What if I wanted to stay forever? And would that be allowable? In most cases, that's not the case. You're going to be said. Very politely, hopefully, but, sir, it looks like you've extended your stay. It's time for you to go home now. And that's a system that everybody can believe in at home and abroad.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I always say that even going south, it's funny. You can come north, and we have one system, and yet you and I going south would not be allowed to stay.
SPEAKER 12 :
Of course, everybody is going to have to enforce their own borders in the interest of their own national community. That's the responsibility of government, is to say, what's the policy here that's going to be most beneficial to our national community? Those are the people that we work for. Those are the people we're responsible for. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, folks listening, how do they find you, Jeremy?
SPEAKER 12 :
You can find me just anywhere you find NumbersUSA, NumbersUSA.com, and on X at NumbersUSA.
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All right, we are back. Got a few minutes left of this first hour. And again, as I said earlier, at 4 o'clock, we've got a special guest joining us, Brandon. I hope I'm saying this right. Weikert. I'll make sure I get his name right once we get him on here. But he's got some opinions and is a little bit more of an expert when it comes to drones and things along those lines. So we'll talk to him at 4 o'clock as well. All right, this was sent to me. I believe Joe sent me this. Jersey Joe. National spelling bee. Charlie, I don't know if you saw this or not. The national spelling bee, because I think of Charlie first when I see these sorts of things, because in our world, Charlie is the grammar spelling expert. I'm not. A lot of what I do, I get tips from Charlie or he'll say, hey, we should probably say this instead of that. Even when I do some promos and things like that, he'll make last minute, last second changes because that's right up his alley. So I thought he would enjoy this as much as anyone. So the National Spelling Bee is now under fire for allowing feminist spellings for third graders. The word is woman. We all know how it's spelled, W-O-M-E-N, woman, or M-A-N, either way, plural for women, singular for woman. Well, you can now put a Y in place, I guess, Charlie, of either the E or the A. I'm not sure which, to be honest with you. you know that's thank you for pointing that out because if it's more than one what would the spelling would it be an s at the end woman's w-o-m-y-n-s i i don't know this is insanity folks and again this is to pacify the left you're essentially – think of this and what they're doing, and they're very upfront about this. They're taking man or men out of the word woman or woman. It's what they're doing here. That's why they're allowing these third graders to now put Y in place of either of those two letters. So we're basically – changing wording around and then allowing the spelling of to be okay and promoting it, actually. Charlie, this would be like taking any other word out there that has been spelled a particular way and has a particular meaning for years and changing it completely around. I realize it's one letter, but it's still, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, it's a complete change of our language. That's how I see it. or the spelling of, and it's wrong. And those of you that are like Charlie, that are sticklers when it comes to spelling and punctuation and things like that, this has to drive you crazy. It drives me crazy, and I'm the worst speller on the planet, and it drives me crazy. Again, because it's not – number one, we're not teaching kids the correct spelling. And by the way, even pronunciation, Charlie, we know how the English language is a little bit messed up when it comes to pronouncing words and so on, and things can do different things at different times. So by putting the Y – where there would be an E or an A because we pronounce those two words differently, woman, woman, right? We pronounce them differently. So how are we going to teach a third grader now to pronounce it with the Y? Charlie's shaking his head at me. I don't know the answer. This is just total insanity. And, you know, you guys hear me all the time talk about how the left is mentally ill. This is living proof. This is living proof. We're going to change the way a word is spelled because we're so against one particular sex. That's really what this is about. We're so offended by the word man or man that we're just going to eliminate it altogether. That's insanity. That's a mental illness, not being able to face what is real, what is factual. There are two sexes, and only two, by the way, male and female. So, again, I look at this as just a complete utter nonsense. It is not living in reality. It's changing things to fit whatever you feel they need to be, not what they actually are. And this, according to what I'm reading, Charlie, the Y will be used mainly to replace the E, I guess not the A. But again, how are you going to teach a third grader the difference? Because essentially you're trying to just take man or men out of the word altogether. So how are you going to teach a third grader? In my opinion, this even gets more messy than what it was prior. Because, again, you're teaching even youngsters when it comes to the two different spellings, M-E-N-M-A-N. We know as adults, and once you learn, one is singular, one is plural, but a third grader doesn't necessarily know that. So now we're going to add a why into the midst of this and then wonder why kids don't have any idea what's going on later on. Instead of teaching them how to have a job later in life and have the knowledge to do so, we're getting into this nonsense. And it is absolute, utter nonsense. 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Well, the first thing when somebody calls me up, you know, how much money can I save? What are the rates? I'm going to ask them. I said, how much are you looking at saving to where it makes it worth it? Normally, if you can start to save, depending on the loan size, $100, even $100 a month can actually benefit you. But the average person is going to save anywhere from $150 to $400 a month on a refinance. And that's not taking into consideration that in most cases, you're going to skip two payments. They're going to be deferred. So if your payment's $2,000 or $2,500, now all of a sudden you've saved $5,000. That $5,000 can go a long way to pay off credit card debt.
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Somebody out there listening says, well, yeah, but rates aren't quite as low as I'd like to see them go. I mean, Kurt, let's say they go ahead and do it now. Can they do it a year from now again if they really drop substantially?
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If they drop substantially, you can do it in seven months.
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Okay, seven months. So for those of you listening, don't worry about that end of things. If you can be saving money today and then do it again on down the road, why not?
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And if you're saving two months' payment, it basically pays for the refinance. So it's not costing you anything if it's seven months down the road either.
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All right. Talk to us about down payments. Somebody out there listening, maybe they're looking at potentially, you know, Kurt, they're looking to maybe buy their first home. Or, you know, maybe they'd like to take some equity out of what they have, change areas, do something a little different. What are they looking at for down payments?
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Most people believe you've got to put 20% down. Otherwise, you've got to pay mortgage insurance. While that is true, that's not necessarily costly because the mortgage insurance that they're having on most of these homes, if you're doing a loan for 85% or 90% loan to value, they're nominal. And you're getting such a great rate up front on it, it really doesn't bother you to pay the money because you're still saving so much. So right now you're seeing banks with special programs that you know, 10% down or 5% down on a first-time homebuyer. There's some great programs for that.
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Okay. Again, all of you listening, 720-895-0500 is the number to call. That's Affordable Interest Mortgage. Kurt, you take over Haystack Help Radio on Wednesdays from noon to 1. What are you guys doing tomorrow?
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We're going to be talking about a lot of questions customers have called in and asked me, and I'm going to be answering them on air tomorrow.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And again, appreciate you all listening. And again, those of you that are in the whole mortgage end of things, if there's a question, by the way, specifically you'd like me to ask Kurt Rogers on Thursday, on any level, everything from construction loans to you name it, if there's something you'd like me to ask Kurt, please let me know. You can send me a text message, 307-200-8222, and I can sure add that into my notes to ask him questions. on Thursday. Then don't forget, you can always call in live during the Thursday show as well, during that five o'clock hour, third hour, and ask questions as well. Kurt's always happy to answer them. And as far as mortgage brokers go, I will just tell you right now, one of the not only nicest guys you'll meet, but one of the smartest guys in that industry as well. So Elizabeth Mitchell joining us now. Welcome back, Elizabeth. How are you?
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I'm great. Thank you.
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Thank you very much. Daily Signal, co-host of the Daily Signal podcast. All right, you've got a story about a detransitioner that sued a doctor who prescribed her irreversible sex change drugs at age 12.
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Yes, it is absolutely shocking. So to summarize Clementine's story, when she was 12, she was experiencing some discomfort related to her body. She'd been sexually assaulted as a child and had some trauma related to that. But unfortunately, she was diagnosed as transgender, was placed on puberty blockers, hormones, and was eventually got a double mastectomy at age only 14. Later ended up regretting it in college, went to therapy, realized it was just that trauma she had from her childhood. that she hadn't dealt with and that she really was a girl, decided to start living in accordance with her biological sex, and now she's suing the doctor that allowed her to make a decision that is irreversible that she'd later regret at such a young age.
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Now, again, I'm I'm a parent, but I'm not her parent and wasn't there. So I don't know what all went on. And, you know, the advice that, you know, a parent was getting. I do know, though, Elizabeth, as parents, we listen a lot to what the medical staff and doctors and so on say. Now, I will say there's times where I still think we as parents need to step in and, you know, do what we know is right for our kids. But on the same token. I will at times give parents a little bit of grace because we rely heavily on the medical community, correct?
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Yes. So that's pretty much what happened here. The doctor, Dr. Joanna Olson-Kennedy, a very controversial child transgender doctor, she told these parents that if they didn't let their child take these transgender drugs, that even though they might affect fertility of other side effects, then she would probably commit suicide. They said you can choose between having a living son and a dead daughter. Even though Clementine wasn't even suicidal at the time, this is just a classic, classic motto of these transgender doctors of you can choose between suicide and being transgender, and it's just a lie, and Clementine knows that now, and so do her parents.
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And again, I apologize because I should have paid more attention to the video that I was watching, but I believe she testified on Capitol Hill about all of this as well. Am I right in saying that?
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I'm not sure. She's currently at UCLA studying theater. There are other detransitioners, though, who have been very prominent here on Capitol Hill, such as Chloe Cole. She's testified several times about her experience talking about how transgenderism stole her childhood, took away what should have been innocent, young, fun years of her life, ended up leaving her in a hospital for years and years. And so it really does create lifelong patients in a way that kids can't consent to at the age they're being allowed to in many states.
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The reason I ask that is because the particular testimony that I watched, basically the doctor said the exact same thing that you just said about Clementine. So I'm thinking, okay, wait a minute, is this the same person? And if not, it tells you the rhetoric those doctors continue to use is my point.
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Yes, that really is the prevailing rhetoric around this, is that kids will commit suicide if the parents don't let this happen, and it really is a scare tactic that I think is used by these doctors to make a lot of money and to push their political narrative.
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Yeah, and thank you for saying that, by the way. I've talked about this before in my program. It's been probably... I know it's been a while since I've done this. And as you may or may not know, Trinidad, Colorado, which is a town south of Denver, quite a ways south of us, almost to the New Mexico border, not quite that far, but it's getting close, way closer to New Mexico than it is actually to the Denver area. And a lot of this whole transgender sex change end of things was pioneered, if you would, just here in Trinidad, Colorado. Colorado. And my point with all of that is the money side of it. You are spot on. It is huge money that these doctors get into when they get somebody to agree to do a transition or sex change or whatever the case may be.
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Yeah, and it's not just one procedure, one prescription. They're creating a patient for life. That's right. Surgery, it's not a one-time thing. That would be expensive if it was, but it's not. There's going to be upkeep. They're going to have to do repeat surgeries to deal with the side effects. It's going to be drug prescriptions for life. It really is just a repeating, just endless money stream for these doctors.
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Elizabeth, I coach small businesses on the side outside of what I do here. And in that world, anytime you've got especially a retail business or any business, you're trying to get as many repeat customers as you can because it's much less costly to keep somebody that's already coming in to come in than it is to try to go out and find a new customer. These doctors have it made. Literally, they've got built-in business for the life of that patient. Right.
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You're completely right. They're having people who are not just getting their product once, but are going to be getting it many, many, many times, and that is very lucrative.
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And nobody, by the way, other than folks like yourself and me, nobody's talking about that side of it. Everybody's looking at this like, Oh, the poor kid, you know, they don't know what they're doing and they don't know what body they're in and blah, blah, blah. And I'm not trying to make light of kids and the struggles they have. But, Elizabeth, these struggles that kids have had going through puberty, frankly, have existed since the beginning of mankind. It's a change in your whole world, your body. Kids change at different times in different ways. And, you know, no two kids are the same. And I've raised plenty to know that. I mean, every one of them goes through these things differently. Some adapt, by the way, very, very well. Some really struggle. It's just part of life. Am I right?
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You're totally right. That's pretty much Clementine's message as well, was that she wishes the people had just told her that growing up, going through puberty, being an adolescent is difficult for everyone. Everyone has a lot of complicated feelings during that time. And that doesn't mean you should change your body. It just means you've got to get through it. And those in your life should just love and accept you for where you are and shouldn't tell you that you need to change your body to make your body match your feelings, which will pass.
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What do you think, outside of making these doctors accountable for what they're doing, which I believe they need to be, so that's one side of it, but outside of that, how do we change that whole narrative of, well, you were assigned this gender at birth, not you were born this way? I mean, how do we start to turn that tide back, frankly, the direction that it needs to go, because, Elizabeth, I say it on air all the time, and I don't mince any words. I look at the whole transgender end of things very much like Clementine to where there's some mental things going on that really need to be addressed. This is more of a mental illness end of things that we really need to help these kids get through as opposed to changing their bodies. How do we change that narrative? I mean, what I'm saying makes it sound really, really bad when, frankly, it's a whole lot less – damaging to the child to talk about a mental illness and how do we overcome that versus changing your gender. Am I correct in my thoughts?
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Absolutely. You are right. We need to tell it like it is. We need to stop using these euphemisms that have become so common. Even conservatives are sometimes using these words. We should not be saying sex assigned at birth. We should be talking about God-given biological sex. You're either male or female. That's all there is to it. We should not be using the phrase gender-affirming care to refer to these irreversible medical interventions for children. That is not what it is. It's lying to children. And I think you're completely right that we need to win this not only by helping kids to accept their biological sex, but we also need to make sure the way we're talking about it is truthful. And that comes with not using phrases like sex assigned at birth and gender-affirming care.
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And for everybody listening, and Elizabeth, I think you probably would agree with me on this. This is, in my opinion, all part of the master plan of the Marxist movement, because if they can, A, confuse kids, B, get kids to change gender. C, that means these kids will not be reproducing on down the road. Therefore, what we do as far as our population is concerned changes. And ultimately, it's all about control over the population as much as it is helping these kids out. Am I right or wrong?
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Yeah, I think that we're seeing a lot of these efforts to kind of make people not have as many children among the left. Not only are we seeing that with abortion, of course, is a really obvious example, but also with having people... do things to their bodies that make them infertile. And the saddest thing about that to me is that these kids are making the decision to be infertile when they're children themselves. They don't even know they want children. They don't even know what that means. They have no idea what they're committing to. They're committing to not being able to be mothers and fathers one day, and that's an extremely weighty decision that... I think it's really sad that kids are able to do that.
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I agree. I mean, and you're proving it with a young lady named Clementine. Reality is as they grow up and they get a little older, and by the way, their brain matures and they mature and they start looking at life a little bit differently and they think, oh, crap. I guess I've ruined all of my chances to actually have kids and have a family and do what some of my peers I see doing are. They've eliminated themselves from that.
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Yeah, and I think we can all pray and hope that maybe it'll be possible for these people to get married and have children and have normal lives. That's really what they want looking back. And I think the biggest way that we can... The biggest thing we can do here is to just prevent that from happening to more people by saying you're making a change to your body that you're never going to be able to go back on that and you really need to be an adult before you can make that kind of decision.
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I want to close with that because you hear some of the left come out and lie to people by saying, oh, these things are reversible. There's nothing that's going on that's irreversible. Elizabeth, nothing could be farther from the truth.
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You're completely right. This is reversible. If you regret it, you can go back. You can get your old body back. You can change your mind. You can go back to being a girl if you want. But it really wasn't that simple.
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No, it's not. Elizabeth, thank you again. Daily Signal, Daily Signal podcast. And again, I'm sure the podcast, they can just go find it, any of their favorite podcast sources, right?
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That's correct.
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Absolutely. Elizabeth, Merry Christmas. Thank you, by the way, for all the time you spend with us. I appreciate it very much.
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Merry Christmas. Thank you so much.
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All right, I have something I'm going to play. I was going to play actually last Thursday, but we ran out of time. Had enough other stuff that went on during that particular day that I didn't have a chance to do it. So this is John Stossel, and he's talking about why government can't build anything. You guys hear me talk about that quite often, but he's really solid, as you know, and I'm going to let him go through. This is going to talk about charging stations for EVs and broadband. Here we go.
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Both parties visibly happy to announce agreement.
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Three years ago, Republicans and Democrats grabbed your money promising.
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To build thousands of miles of fiber optic cable.
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Cable that would provide high speed internet to all of America.
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$65 billion broadband push.
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Three years later, no one's been connected. Not a single project is underway.
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Okay, really quick. That's dated October 4th of this year. So probably hasn't been anything hooked up in the last two months either. So there you go.
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Why? Because governments aren't good at building anything.
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As Milton Friedman put it, Very few people spend other people's money as carefully as they spend their own.
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Politicians spending other people's money wasted it. Private companies laid miles of cable while government officials obsessed about giving broadband to the right people. Boys, girls, people of color, people living in rural America. Aging individuals, prisoners, LGBTQ persons. Any company that wants funds to build broadband has to hire certain people.
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You have to hire these certain people based on their color, based on their sex, and you have to use unions.
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Matt Cole's investment company researched the government's funding and made this ad. What am I looking at here?
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Oh, there's nothing more important than making sure you're representing all the right causes. You have all these companies that could actually do this, and they say, this is unimplementable with the restrictions, so they just walk away.
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Eventually, government will probably succeed in installing some broadband. But by then, this hard-to-install cable may be totally unnecessary because of satellite internet like Starlink. Starlink already exists and costs much less.
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They could do it literally today. You could have devices in these people's homes within the next couple months, and they could have high-speed internet access.
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So why didn't administration officials do that? They said Starlink failed to demonstrate it had the ability. Then, once it became clear that Starlink obviously did, the administration said it won't use Starlink because it's a monopoly.
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So first they're not functional. Now they have a monopoly. The reality is that they didn't want that to be the solution. They don't want to give money to Elon Musk.
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Take over, Elon! Yes, take over!
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But now, Musk has a friend in government, so things may change. But that's not a good way to spend your money. Politicians doling it out to their friends. In fact, politicians have a bad track record when they decide what to build. They pump billions into high-speed rail. Fifteen years later, we still don't have it. They lost $500 million on Solyndra. Almost a billion trying to create synthetic fuels. More recently, a Biden meatpacking scheme starved a million chickens. And although Biden promised government would build 500,000 charging stations. Two years later, how many have they built for $7 billion? Seven. And again, government's failure at building things is not just a Democrat thing. Republicans joined Democrats in grabbing your money to build computer chip factories. We will enable advanced semiconductor manufacturing to make a comeback here in America. Democrats bragged about adding strings.
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Diversity, equity, and inclusion. The CHIPS Act contains 19 sections aimed at helping minority groups.
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You already have a talent problem. Now you're looking at only being able to recruit from a very small minority of individuals. Then you have to do climate pledges. Then you have to hire from unions. But diversity is good. And there's been horrible discrimination in this country. That doesn't mean that you should shift the pendulum back to hire someone because of their race or their skin color if they're a diverse candidate.
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All right, I'll leave it at that. John from Cheyenne, you are next. Go ahead, John.
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I'm sorry. I was just thinking about your last guest. She was great. But we have to think about this as Christians, and God's perfect. He doesn't make mistakes. So when somebody who claims to be Christian comes out and says, well, I think I was born in the wrong body, you're saying, no, God made a mistake and created me wrong. And we have to start saying that back to these people when they say, well, the child's confused. No, the child needs a little bit of Christianity and religion, or maybe even Judaism, brought into their lives. to teach them that they were made in God's image.
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Right. Agree. John, that's been my whole mantra from the transgender standpoint for the longest time, and I've taken heat from the left on that and don't really care because they're loonies anyway, so at the end of the day, you know, you're correct. I mean, I stand by, and again, I know it's fundamental, I believe that God... created the world and all of us as well, and creates each child as well. And no, God doesn't make mistakes. Now, I also—some would say, well, then how can you say that, you know, some kids aren't born with some developmental problems and things like that? Well, we live in a fallen world, and some things happen because of that. That's all.
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Right. But to say, I was created wrong, is wrong. And the whole thing with the trans thing— is the LGBTQ, when they got the Supreme Court ruling that gays could marriage and everything, they didn't just say enough is enough. They veered to trans because they didn't want to lose all that money they were getting.
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Yeah, and I think, though, and along those lines, John, I do think that as time goes by, it's already happening. You're going to find the gay community, quote-unquote, separating or dividing themselves once again from the trans end of things because at the end of the day, they're realizing that these trans people, for the most part, number one, are not on the same wavelength and doing the same agenda that the gay side is.
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No, and there's already a group out there online that's read some of their posts called Gays Against Groomers.
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Right.
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And they consider a lot of these trans people groomers. They're just looking to groom.
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Looking to groom. They're looking to, you know, men wanting to be women to go hang out in the women's restroom and things like that. I mean, again, at the end of the day, these guys... A man wanting to be a woman, going through the whole change, then quote-unquote is a woman, but then still likes women. No offense, John, that person's not gay. That's still a heterosexual man that just figured out how to get in with women.
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Right.
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Sorry, that's all it is.
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I know that I'll probably wind up in jail, but if I see somebody that was born a man, and I can tell that they're not a woman... going into a restroom where my wife or my daughter or my granddaughters are, we're going to have a problem.
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I can't disagree with that. No, I'm the same. That's just not going to be allowed.
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That's not going to happen. If I am 63-year-old, I'm just not going to allow it to happen. Right. But going to Stossel, I follow him on Twitter or X, and I saw that video last week. I mean, he's so phenomenal with just pointing out a waste. And that first one with the broadband, I mean, I've lived in the middle of nowhere for 20 years. I've had internet since I've lived here. Yes, it was crappy when I first got it in 2004. Now, I don't have any problem with it at all. And that's all through the free market getting better. And I look at it this way. Every time the government steps in, they make it worse.
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John, I don't think there's an exception to that.
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The only thing the government does well is the military for the most part.
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Well, and here's a question for you because you've been in it. Do they?
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You know what? If you took the Washington bureaucrats, the generals who became bureaucrats out of it, and you say from a corps commander down, they do a pretty good job. But once you get above that, like, core command, then it's all politics anyway.
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And that's what I mean by, you know, do they. By the way, I didn't say that to go against any servicemen or women that are out there, you know, fighting for our country. I'm talking about the higher-ups, government, if you would, and what they do. Because at the end of the day, I would even argue they don't do that very well.
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Yeah, but even if, you know, if a core commander got an order saying, you've got to defend this, you know, 10 miles. they would know how to do it and do it well. Because that's what they do. That's what they train for. From that level, which is a three-star general on down, most of them have common sense. And if you get to where Pete Hegseth was before he got out of the military, he was a low-level officer. He was on the ground, so he knew what's really all about. But to go back to what Stossel was saying, if Elon and Vivek and the rest of that crew could just stop programs like that, how much better off would we be?
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And, John, as you know, I interview folks on here, as you know, all the time, and the reality is it's widespread. It's not even just one area of government. It's one after another after another after another. That's the main issue, as you know.
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I'll give you a prime example. Do you know that there's a tax on your telephone bill? And I believe it's on cell phone bills, too. That goes back to the mid-1910s, where they were charging a small tax to extend telephone lines. Yep, telecom tax. Yep. And they've never gotten rid of it, nor will they ever get rid of it.
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Once it gets started, it never stops.
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It goes in there. Until somebody stands up and says enough is enough, it goes in their pocket. Like the part Stossel was saying where you've got to hire... two of this and three of that and four of those, that's not the way business runs. If you hire 10 guys, you know those 10 guys are going to do the job. Why do you care if they're all, for instance, they're all gay? If there's 10 guys that can do the job and do it well and they're all gay, I don't care. I don't care. Can they do the job? That's the question. So, John, you have a good day.
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You too, man. Appreciate you, John, very much. Have a great rest of your night. Joe, you're next. Go ahead.
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And, John, I had heard the Stossel thing last week, but what I had heard actually a couple years ago, and I'm looking for it right now to send it to you, you know Prager University, right? They actually did a piece a couple years back that goes even back several hundred years where they do a deep dive on government's repeated failures to get things done. I think they started with the construction of the Intercontinental Railroad, how much time and money the government wasted and how little track got laid there. And then they finally decided to give up on it. Privatize it. Well, they didn't actually fund anybody.
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No, at that time they called them the Barons. Those guys did.
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The Barons decided, screw it, we're going to do it. Not a dollar's worth of government money. They laid down, they got the entire Continental Railroad coast-to-coast built in like three years. And the government has skewered around for something like five and didn't even get 100 miles of track laid.
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I'm still surprised, Joe, that we built things like the highways and Hoover Dam and so on, which, by the way, I don't think we could even do today.
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No, and by the way, and it all got built, of course, by private contractors.
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Right.
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And they weren't tied up in knots by environmental impact statements, by Davis-Bacon wage laws. They didn't have DEI quotas they had to make. Eisenhower just said, who was Republican, by the way, just said, here's the money.
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Build it.
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We're going to specify what the road has to be, you know, what it's got to be made of.
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By the way, one thing, I doubt this would happen, but one of the ways that Doge would save the everybody money, by the way, across the board as far as governments are concerned, is to eliminate the whole Davis Act in and of itself, Joe. They would save gazillions of dollars coast to coast by doing so, as you know.
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Excuse me, not just at the federal level.
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Every level.
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When the I-25 expansion, John, any... Any county, city, road in this, any building, the state of Colorado, you know, if a new school gets built in this state, it's Davis-Bacon wages. A new county road gets built with no government money, it's Davis-Bacon. These people standing out there holding the little slow stop sign where they stop you and then turn the sign, you know, they're getting paid.
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Flagman, they're called. Yeah.
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They're getting paid $30 an hour.
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Yep. And for all of you listening, there's a table, there's a list, by the way, for every contractor that agrees to sign up for that. And as a contractor, because I know I do this, you have to provide proof that you're paying those employees on those particular jobs that particular wage. Even that employee, Joe, doesn't normally make that wage. If you go out and even do some subcontracting work for those particular individuals, you've got to pay that particular wage, even if that worker is working for you, for less money doing it on a daily basis otherwise.
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Right. And, John, I've got to tell you how far back some of this stuff goes with the DEI hiring. I'm going to go back 40 years. I was working at a New York City area for Carrier, and we do big industrial air conditioning units. So we had this massive project to rehab a unit at LaGuardia Airport. That was one of their main – and, John, this unit is as big as a tractor trailer, as big as a – it was massive. You could work on it from the inside. Anyway, so we had this big 150-page contract from the LaGuardia Airport Authority, whatever, And, of course, we were a union company. We were employing union employees. So it wasn't a Davis-Bacon issue. But buried in this contract, they had some minority labor utilization provisions. And I had called the business agent and said, hey, look, I need, you know, so many minorities, you know. And he said, well, I'll send you what I got. Anyway, about two weeks into the project, I get a visit from one of their inspectors. And they said, let me see your payroll, you know, who's – How many of these are minorities? And I said, well, this one, this one, and this one. And she said, you're four short. I said, well, I called the union. They don't have them. And her answer to me was, not my problem.
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Yeah, she didn't care.
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She doesn't care that I tried and couldn't get them. They were not available.
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Right.
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And she said, not my problem. And she was going to start assessing me penalties. So I literally had to get with the business agent and said, look, I need to hire some people literally off the street. I need you to give them a temporary work card. And, John, these people were completely unskilled. Unreal. And we basically gave them some lenient work.
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All those things do, to your point, Joe, to cut to the chase, is add costs.
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So all it did was add costs to the project.
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Yep. Everybody thinks that our taxes are this and our taxes are that and this is that and that's that. I mean, the reality, Joe, is there is so much of that utter nonsense that goes on that drives the price of everything up.
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Right. And so from that point forward, John, every time I bid a job for the city of New York— or the state of New York, I always – and I would look to what the minority – because, again, we were a union shop. I always looked at the minority hiring provision, and I just added in – if it was five additional bodies, I just added in the cost of five additional bodies that were going to be basically nonproductive.
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That you had to have there on the job just because.
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That I just had to have on the job just to meet the quota. And when I say – I shouldn't say no. They were mentally, you know, we had them doing cleanup work. We had them basically hauling.
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Yeah, but they're not as efficient as they would be doing something else. You'd have a skilled laborer working.
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Right, but can you imagine paying somebody, by the way, right about now it's about $45 an hour. Can you imagine paying $45 to push a broom?
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No. Ridiculous.
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But that's what, you know, but if you're working in New York City right now, either for the city or the state, and every contract you get will have a DEI quota, and you'll just, and if You're not, you know, and if you're a union contractor, you'll just have to.
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You don't have any choice.
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You've got no choice.
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It is what it is. That's right. You've got to agree to it. Otherwise, don't bid. Yep, you're right. Joe, appreciate that very much. Spot on. And I appreciate that coincides with what we were talking about, the video I played with John Stossel. Cup Creek Heating and Air Conditioning, talking about HVAC, which Joe was involved in for a very long time. If you've got any problems with your furnace at all, please give Cup Creek a call today. KLZradio.com is where you find them.
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All right, we are back. A few minutes left here of this Monday edition, and one thing I wanted to talk about, which this applies all the time. Yes, it's more important during the holidays right now, but really this particular PSA, public service announcement, can apply any time, and that is the scammers that are out there. And I have a 12 frauds of Christmas that I will not have time to go through all 12. I might be able to do that a little bit later this week, but... I was, I shouldn't say almost victim of, but a reminder to me, I already had this in my notes, and then this happened earlier today to me. And some of you have probably experienced the same thing. But I had one today that was really hard to tell that it was a scam. Phishing is what I should say. And it was a text message that had come from the USPS, which I'm like, I don't know that I have any packages coming, but it's Christmas time. There might be. I don't know. Who knows? A lot of things going on right now as far as that. And they needed to verify the zip code, my address, zip code, to make sure that it would come through customs. So it could be something coming from overseas or whatever, which, by the way, a lot of things do. And so at first I'm like, oh, I'm not sure. So I went ahead and just copied. I didn't reply to the message or anything. I just copied and pasted the link that they had. And sure enough, it went to the USPS.com website with all of the right letters in front, the SSL certificate, the whole nine yards. And, yes, I can look at those things. And trust me, it was accurate as far as all of that was concerned. Okay. What wasn't accurate was the last part of the URL, and it was asking me to fill out all the personal information. Not social security or anything like that, but name, address, phone number, verifying all this information that they were asking for. And I'm like, man, this just doesn't seem right. And I went to the main, for me to figure this out, two things. I went to just USPS.com and went to the tab that this particular page that I was on was under, and I did a side-by-side comparison, and there was no link to what I was looking at. If you go to USPS.com and you go to the tools section or whatever it is, there is no place to verify an address. So that was the first clue that I had was this thing is a phish is because that doesn't exist as a link on their website. The second thing, because once I saw that, I'm like, OK, where did this message actually originate from? What phone number? And as I looked, there was an out of country code first and then the phone number. And I'm like, OK, there's there's my real, you know, there's my real message. clue as to what's going on here. And then I went ahead and just went to USPS.com and looked at their scam end of things and their phishing sides of the fence, which is what somebody was trying to do to me, was phish for some information. And again, in this first page, I didn't see anything that wasn't pretty easy to gain on someone anyways, but you don't need to give anybody anything they don't already have. So I just went ahead, deleted, reported that. I use an iPhone with Apple. You can actually report that as junk spam, whatever, to where hopefully it blocks those in the future. My point is this. You have to be extremely, extremely diligent and sharp on some of these messages, emails, and things that you'll have come in because even somebody like myself who is – I'm just telling you, I'm very on top of these things and knock on wood, I've never been scammed yet – But today, I'll tell you what, they're just getting more and more sophisticated all the time. 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Well, thank you for having me, and thanks for the nice plug. Happy to be here.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're very welcome. Okay, talk to us. I did a little bit in the first hour. I didn't get into a lot of details because I knew you would be joining us, and frankly, I am no drone expert, but I do have some common sense, and I feel like I've got a pretty good grip on what's going on. I'm not a conspiracy theorist as well. I mean, I think there can be some things that get really, really outlandish, and it's kind of what's happening right now in regards to this. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, we've reached the hysteria portion of what I can only describe as a social media phenomenon. What's really going on, and now that Daily Mail is reporting the story that I broke on Twitter, I was retweeting another individual who made this point, and they looked into sort of what the Department of Energy was doing with radioactive waste, and it's been discovered, and they were covering this up, the Biden regime was, it's been discovered that the Department of Energy on December 2nd lost radioactive waste shipment in New Jersey. And it is my contention, and this is speculation on my part, but it's informed speculation, it is my contention that what we are witnessing in terms of these drone operations is this is the Biden administration using nuclear sniffers at night so as not to, ironically, to arouse suspicion, but I think they are desperately searching for this missing radioactive waste shipment, and they don't want to admit it to the public because, of course, Biden is already leaving under a hail of embarrassment. Why leave even more embarrassment? Yeah, why pile on? Yeah. That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And, you know, it's funny. Some of the things that I've been reading and listening to, and, again, I take a lot of different social media videos and so on with a grain of salt, and some I put a little more credibility in than others. And I'd heard some similar things, you know, theories along these lines. So, by the way, I don't think that's too far-fetched at all, the other theory I've heard, and I don't know how true this is.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, if you follow me on Twitter, you should see the pile on right now from these big-name accounts who are attacking me, calling me the conspiracy theorist, while they're out there saying it's Little Great Ben.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, well, number one, it ain't that. That one I can assure you of, because there isn't any. So that's not it at all. Now, the other theory that I've heard, and this one I don't know either, that there was supposedly a nuke from Ukraine that has been lost. And again, I don't think you can lose a nuke that easily, but supposedly there was one of those lost as well, and we don't know where it's at.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is interesting because I was contacted, and now I don't communicate with Russia, but I was contacted by several people that I once knew who are in Russia who are affiliated with their media there, and they were asking what I knew about Russia. This this NATO nuke that's being moved into Ukraine right now. And of course, I don't I don't know anything about that. But I think it's interesting that you say that because you're like the third person now in the last two weeks who's brought up Ukraine and nukes. And I have a book out on Ukraine. I would not surprise me. If the Biden regime was actually possibly using this drone story to distract the media from the fact that they are actually moving nuclear weapons into Ukraine to hand off to the Ukrainians. But again, that is a significant escalation. And even though I do believe the Biden regime would love to leave a smoldering problem for Trump, I don't know if they're crazy enough to do that because they know, and this is what the globalists fear, that if we do that to Ukraine, the Russians will hand off nukes to Iran. and maybe even venezuela right and so i don't think we're going to get there yet i really think the the first thing i said which is that this is a department of energy has misplaced radioactive waste i think this is probably the most likely explanation i'm with you i i number one
SPEAKER 14 :
Enough research that I did over the weekend, I really feel like this is a DOE situation, and they have some anonymity, as you know, and have a lot of high-tech things that most people don't realize they have. And they've got the ability to do some things outside of the, quote-unquote, armed forces, which is why the military may not know what's going on, although you'd think they'd talk to one another. But, again, that's a whole other discussion probably for another day.
SPEAKER 16 :
The military did know. Trump said today in his statement the military does know, and he was confounded as to why the government wasn't just saying what it is. And so it's possible the military does know, at least part of them know, and they're not – left hand's not talking to the right hand type situation.
SPEAKER 14 :
My theory on that – again, this is my theory. I'm just a talk show host, car guy talk show host. That's who I am, by the way, Brandon. Okay. At the end of the day, I'm no super intelligent individual by any stretch of the imagination. But number one, I think they're not being honest because, number one, if in fact even what you said, no matter what, whether it's a lost nuke or it's what you're saying, either way, that drives panic in the public, which they're most likely trying to keep down as much as they can. On the same token, by what they're doing, they're driving panic.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, yes. And also, by the way, I mean, just think about it from the Biden regime's perspective. They have been totally outmaneuvered by a man, Donald Trump, they said was literally Hitler. And he has humiliated them for the last year. So why would they want to go out now admitting that, hey, we've also either lost a nuke or we've lost radioactive material? They'd rather create panic and chaos. that admit that they're just totally incompetent.
SPEAKER 14 :
And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't somebody that is pretty high-ranking in regards to the nuclear end of things one of their transgendered weirdo dude dresses in a dress and lipstick and the whole nine yards? Am I correct in that? No.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, if you want to talk about aliens, I mean, this guy or girl or whatever who looks like an alien, it is a cross-dressing bald man who says it's a woman who was arrested for stealing people's luggage at airports. And so that's who's in control of our nuclear was, at least until they might have resigned.
SPEAKER 14 :
But that is who was in control for several years of the Biden regime's nuclear security. That's what I thought. So given all of that, on a serious note... Given all of what we just said would be all the more reason why you want all of this covered up. Because, again, that just now adds to, you know, the other side, Donald Trump and so on. You know, my side, I should say, just adds to our fodder that, hey, you guys are totally incompetent. And all of your DEI nonsense just almost cost us as a nation.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. That's right. And, you know, ultimately, the one thing your audience should know is, first of all, it's not aliens. Second of all, the likelihood that it's a foreign threat actor like Iran or even China is not likely. So please don't shoot at the sky because you are probably shooting at a civilian airliner, which actually apparently happened over the weekend. In New Jersey, where they shot up at the sky and it was actually a civilian airline.
SPEAKER 14 :
I saw that. I saw some of those clips of that. And it's like, people, please, you know, number one, gun safety. You don't do that. Number two, you have no idea where the rest, you know, you're not going to hit it, most likely, which was very apparent.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're going to hit somebody else.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. Right. You're going to hurt somebody else when it's all said and done. And I'm like you, again, part of where my synopsis of all of this came in, not even from the videos and other things, Brandon, but just, number one, these things have lights. Number two, they're flying at an elevation that they're supposed to fly at or under to be FAA approved, if you would. So, I mean, I'm looking at all this and saying, OK, wait a minute. And I said this in the first hour. First of all, aliens wouldn't do that, which... again, there's no such thing, but number two, a foreign adversary is not going to do that either. Foreign adversary is not going to play by the rules.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then the one thing question you should ask yourself is if I'm an alien coming from across the universe, why would I be visiting New Jersey?
SPEAKER 14 :
Good one, actually. Good one. I mean, but I've seen even some of the, you know, and I know they're AI generated, but you know, it's showing ships coming up out of the water and this, that, and the other. And it's like, Oh my word, people.
SPEAKER 16 :
And by the way, that, That's an interesting thing, because I have seen some of the videos as well, and I will say, before this morning I saw the thing about the lost radioactive waste, I was wondering if the U.S. Navy was testing their new transmedium drones. And those are drones that the Navy has been developing for about a decade, which basically can travel underwater and then fly like a normal drone in the air and go back underwater.
SPEAKER 14 :
I just learned something. I didn't know that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. Well, not many people did. I consult for the DOD, so I see and hear a lot of things. But you can actually find the Naval Surface Workers Center's paper on it from about a decade ago. China is developing similar tech. But the key thing here to understand is even that has a terrestrial explanation. It is not little green men. Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, furthermore, when you look at these particular drones, how they're made, how they fly, what they do and so on, not that other countries couldn't do the same. But let's face it, Brandon, there's just a few countries with that technology that have the ability to do that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, China's one of them, but I don't think it's them. I really don't think it's them right now.
SPEAKER 14 :
No offense, they've got too much other stuff going on at the homeland to worry about that right now, and I'm being very honest.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. I agree. I agree. I really think this is us, and I think that the scary part is that just like East Palestine, Ohio, the Biden regime has taken a natural disaster and probably made it worse.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. You know what? I'm glad I had you on. You think much like I do. I didn't think that I was crazy over the weekend, and I'm I know now that I'm not. And for all of you out there listening, and I got a lot of text messages and things over the weekend, Brandon asking me what I thought. And again, my number one answer was, it's us. I don't know exactly how, but believe me, it's us. And no, I'm not going to lose an ounce of sleep over this until we know more.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. That's right. And don't shoot at the sky. And don't shoot at the sky.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, before I let you go, last thing, because this one I don't know. If, in fact, they misplaced...
SPEAKER 16 :
radioactive waste which by the way i don't know how you do that um apparently it's quite normal i found out it happens quite a bit really okay i found that out school me yeah well i don't again this is i i don't normally work with the department of energy this is not normally my area but apparently that some small traces of radioactive waste medical radioactive waste have been known to be lost into the ether of our elephant time bureaucracy. So my little spin on this is, because they tried to community note me on Twitter when I said this, now my thought was, okay, maybe this is something that happens routinely, but I actually think that if it was something that was routine that was lost, possibly it was a large quantity because that's the only explanation that I can think of. If you look at where these drones are appearing, they first appear in the East Coast. They can't find what they're looking for. So then they appear where I live in Florida. Then they're appearing on the West Coast. It's like they're looking for something.
SPEAKER 14 :
And to me, it's also, and again, correct me if I'm wrong, but it also seems to me like it's a grid search.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's exactly right. Exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. All right. So, again, you're confirming what I've thought through the weekend. So, Brandon, I appreciate it. If anything else comes out, we'd love to have you back. And it's been a joy. You're welcome any time. I appreciate you very much.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you, sir.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're very welcome. And really quick, what's the website? How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 16 :
You can find me on 1945, F-O-R-T-Y-F-I-V-E.com.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. Appreciate you, Brandon. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. You bet. Have a great night. So there you go, folks. That really confirmed a lot of even what I was talking about in the first hour, other than it being radioactive waste, not necessarily a loose nuke, although I think even he said at this point, Who knows? It really boils down to this particular regime doesn't want that on their record because they've already got enough there as it is, showing how incompetent they are. They don't need one more level of. So thank you, Brandon, if you're still listening. Thank you, by the way. I appreciate that very much. Hi-Fi Plumbing is next. 877-WE-HIGH-5. Electrical, plumbing, whatever it is, give them a call today. 877-WE-HIGH-5.
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, some of the other things that you may hear regarding the drones, and this one, you know, there may be some truth to this. I don't know. There may not be. I don't know. It may just be coincidental. If what we just heard a moment ago is true, then it's coincidence in the timing of. But there's a big $895 billion, with a B, pork-filled defense bill that they're trying to get pushed through before Trump takes office. And... There's a lot of things in it that have nothing to do with defense, by the way, as usual. And so they're trying to get this nearly trillion dollar defense bill, you know, pumped through. And so you kind of wonder is some of what they're here's what I'm going to say. I don't think the drone thing has anything to do with this. Now, that isn't to say that politicians won't take every opportunity they can to use something going on in our world or in our country to then further their bill along. That I do know would happen. So do I think the drone activity happened because of the bill, which you're going to see all over social media also? No, I don't see it that way. Do I think those that are trying to get this bill rammed through will use what's going on in the drone world as a way to push that bill forward? Yes, I do. I'm more of what we were talking about in the last segment, that it's some sort of nuclear waste, hazardous something, something along those lines that they're doing some grid searches on to try to figure out. And is it a lost nuke? I don't know. Maybe. I have a hard time believing you can lose a nuke. But in this incompetent government we have right now, I think anything's possible. So I'm not ruling that out. Now, does that make me lose sleep at night? No. And I got that question over the weekend. Are you losing sleep over any of this? Does any of this bother you? No. I sleep just fine. I know where I'm going. Something happens and all of a sudden, you know, the U.S. is obliterated. I know where I'm going. I'm not worried about that. It doesn't mean I'm coy about it or that I don't care about loved ones and so on. You know, I do. But at the end of the day, number one, what am I going to do to stop it? Absolutely nothing. come on air and talk about some of these things, I guess, but even that's not going to stop it. I will tell you this, all of these loony tunes that are out there running around talking about this being some sort of an alien invasion, that's not helping. These people are loons. And please, if you're somebody that's on our side, on the conservative side, don't go down that path. Just don't go. Don't go down that path. There are no little green men. There are no aliens. There are no underground alien societies that live on Earth. And no, they haven't been here for a gazillion years before we got here. And they're not under the ocean either, Charlie. No, they're not there. Charlie's making fun. No, they're not. And I mean this in all seriousness. Please, if you're a conservative, especially a conservative Christian, don't go there. There are no such thing as aliens. I don't care what anybody says. I don't care what you've read or what you've even seen. Number one, I don't know anybody that's ever seen one, and even some of the ones that say they do, I don't think have a lot of credibility. I go back to what I said a little bit ago. If Charlie gave me great information, great wisdom years ago, and it's this phrase, two words, people talk. People talk. In other words, a lot of the things that we think are one way, and there's all sorts of conspiracies around, people talk. I mean, it's the number one way that criminals get caught, by the way. People talk. Oh, yeah, I know what happened on such and such a night, or I'm going to give up such and such, or whatever. I mean, people talk. And they talk about all sorts of things. It's why when folks win the big lottery— they don't immediately run down and cash in because, again, people talk. When you find something out, people blab. It's sort of, you know, it's part of the sin nature, of course, but it's ingrained in us. If you know something, you're going to say something. So when it comes to some of these things, aliens and, you know, all this other nonsense that's out there, if it were true, there'd be proof of it. And there's not. And believe me, when I say proof, I mean real, literal, up close, you know, personal pictures, you name it. Believe me, they'd be there and we'd all see it by now if there were little green men. The fact of the matter is, folks, there's not. Quit believing it. That is a lie of Satan, by the way. Stop believing in that nonsense because it is utter nonsense. And yes, I do believe that's satanic in and of itself because there is no such thing. And I could go on and on about how vast our universe is and how God in all of his glory made us and made our earth and did what he did inside of our vast universe and how blessed we are to have what we have and on and on. I could go on for hours, literally. I won't. But that's the reality of it. And my feeling is to claim that there's little green men somewhere out there in some outer space, you know, galaxy, shortchange is God. And some of you say, well, why? How so, John? We are made in God's image. Scripture is very clear in that. We are made in his image. We were set on this earth with free will, by the way, to love on our own, not because we have to, but because we want to, a holy God, the holiest of all. No one, nothing comes close to him. He is it. And anybody that would think otherwise is a fool, and Scripture is very clear on that as well. 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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Somebody asked also, would I go to a large football game, stadium event, something along those lines, and or travel with all of what's going on with drones and so on? My son Richard joining me now. And Richard, you already know the answer to that. Yeah, I don't change my life at all because there's drones flying around.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, you've always said this, and maybe you haven't said it on air, so I'm going to be busting your secret, which is, you know, obviously there's a time to, you know, sort of be, you know, cautious and you don't want to put yourself in unnecessary harm, you know, with certain things, but you've always been a firm believer that you're not going to let someone else determine, you know, how you live your life or, you know, kind of what you do or where you go and, you know, whether it's a you know, drones flying around or, you know, unfortunately this, you know, the shooting that happened in, you know, Wisconsin and stuff like, you know, the minute we start doing that, the minute that these people win.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, that's what happened during COVID and I didn't stop doing anything then and I wouldn't stop now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Precisely. And that's kind of what you and I, you and I have talked about many times, right? Especially with COVID is, you know, they were trying to restrict that and, you know, how you lived your life and everything else. And that's kind of the fundamental thing. nature of America, which is the government can't tell you or they should not be telling you how to do those things. And whether the government's action or inaction on this drone type of stuff is whatever it is. I guess, Dad, actions speak louder than words, right? And the fact that the government, you know, Pentagon isn't shooting these things out of the sky tells me that they are, obviously, they know what they are.
SPEAKER 14 :
Another factor in all of what we talked about in the last segment. All right, really quick, to change subjects and to get into something, you know, a little more fun, because I think this is, to me, this was absolutely awesome over the weekend. And I know that our Heisman Trophy winner, Hunter took a lot of heat. I watched it. I looked at it on X and social media and so on. And, you know, a lot of people saying that, you know, the guy from Boise State got gypped and this, that, and the other. And I didn't comment. I felt like commenting on each one of those that, you know, they're not even in, literally, literally, they're not in the same league. And you cannot, I'm sorry, folks. I'm sorry if I'm going to step on toes. You cannot compare the Mountain West in that division to the rest of what's going on in Division I football.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, you can't, Dad. It's different. And here's the deal. That's not to say that what Ashton Gentry has done is not crazy, because it is. He's done a really good job, and he's really great, and he's already had a top-two rushing season in the entirety of college football. But if you're going to say that the competition is the same from – You know, the Mountain West themes that Boise State played to the Big 12 that CU played, and it's just different. And now, granted, I will say this, folks. The Big 12 is not as strong as the SEC or the ACC. But here's the other piece of it, Dan. If you take Travis Hunter off of this CU team, and you saw what happened, he sat out the back half of that Kansas State game. CU lost.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, big time.
SPEAKER 03 :
By three points or whatever it is, right? If he plays the back end of that game, he likely wins. That's right. Yes, he played against Kansas, and they still lost and some other things. But the point being is the level of competition. is not the same. And I'll just stand by and say that. There's been other running backs that have had just as good a season as Ashton Genting, believe it or not, right? Melvin Gordon, he played for the Chargers and the Broncos out of Wisconsin. He had, honestly, very similar stats to that of Ashton Genting. He played at Wisconsin, right? Power 4 school in the Big Ten. And he didn't win the Heisman. Now, you can argue maybe he should have, but ultimately it comes down to And the way I define it, Dad, and you're kind of, if everything's equal, and honestly, any other year, Gen. T probably should have won. The biggest issue, though, is I don't know if we will ever see a guy like Travis Hunter again. What he did on the field both ways... Right, both sides of the ball, right. He was... And it's a... stinking shame, in one of his other words, that he was not voted the best defense. He wasn't even a finalist for the best defensive back. That's a whole different conversation. But he was voted the best wide receiver in the country. I think he's a better corner than he is wide receiver, but that's a different conversation. The AP Player of the Year, the Walter Kemp which I think is the same award. He was, I think, the Bednarik, which is the best defensive player, which I don't know how you get the best defensive player, but you don't get the best defensive back. I feel like they've got to go together in a way. And so it's just insane what he was able to do, Dad, the level of conditioning and just the level, the high level, elite level, that he was able to perform two positions at. And again, not taking anything away from Ashton Gentry. It was incredible. And I'll be honest, Dad, I was saying this to some family and stuff over the weekend. I never thought, obviously I was basically two years old when Roshan Salam won, but the direction that CU was heading over the past number of years, everything going on, I would never have thought that CU would have another Heisman Trophy winner just because of their direction, that college football is going, and the Big Ten, the SEC, you may get a few. But to have what Travis Hunter did and to be able to witness it, obviously, in a time where I can remember it, is just surreal. And you can, obviously, you remember the Rashawn Salon season better than I do, but... And that was kind of special in its own right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. Anytime your team, a player from your team, wins the Heisman, that's a big deal. It doesn't happen very often, as you know, Richard. I mean, that's a very select thing that typically, as you know, doesn't even happen outside of the SEC and some of those conferences, some of those schools, I guess I should say, Richard, at the end of the day. I also will say this, and I'm not trying to beat up the kid from Boise State. Great player. I think he's a good kid when it's all said and done. It'd be interesting to see how well he would do up against stronger defenses. I will say this, after watching Hunter play, honestly, you can put him on any team you want to.
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Well, you can do anything you want to do. He immediately goes to the top of, again, most teams' best cornerback and best receiver the minute that you do it. And I'll be fascinated what he does in the pros, to be honest with you, Dad, because I think that he's that special. And, again, it's just really cool for CU and what Deion has done. And, honestly, that's crazy. This kid out of high school, I'll be the first to admit I thought he was crazy. You know, he foregoes Florida State. where he's from Florida, moved to Georgia, but he was going to go to Florida State. He says, no, I'm going to go with Deion to Jackson State. Deion has a great year, gets hired, obviously, last year at CU. He transfers over, has a decent year last year, but kind of set the stage for this year, had this. It's just crazy, his story. It really is inspirational. I don't know the full story of his dad. If I had to guess, you're probably in and out of, kind of in some trouble and some other things going on. He talks about pulling himself out. The crazy part is that his whole speech wasn't written down. And that goes to tell you that all of those people that sort of impacted him, that he remembered, made a difference in his life because he remembered them off the top of his head, you know, from the guy that took him to get his first pair of, I mean, honestly, that you could, and I think Ashton Gentry is a good man. I actually think he's a good Christian guy, to be honest with you. I think the Boise State coach is, but you know, there's a kid, you know, if there's someone for your kids to, you know, aspire to be or whatever else it might, he's pretty good, right? Doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, doesn't party. you know, the worst thing you could argue is, you know, I'm not sure the dude, you know, I'm not sure what him and his girlfriend got going on. He seems to be unhappy with them a lot of the time, but that's probably the worst thing you can say about the kid. Outside of that, he, you know, plays video games and wears onesies. You know, there's, He's a pretty simple kid. I actually think he's a pretty cool guy. It's a cool thing, Dad. Honestly, I'm pretty excited about it. It's something that I never thought I'd see again, in all honesty.
SPEAKER 14 :
Talk about change in coaching. Belichick now going back to college, which is sort of a trend to do some things differently on the college level, correct?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, who would have thought? Honestly, if you had asked Andy and I, we thought maybe Belichick would go to Dallas, the Cowboys after this year, or even the Eagles, depending on their struggle, or even the Jets. But, yeah, he's going to North Carolina, Dad, taking over for Mack Brown. So you've got an old guy taking over for an old guy. But it's interesting because more and more of these programs with how they're being run, Dad, is more almost like the minor leagues, right? And everyone's always referred to college football as that. But it's even more so now. with just some of the things that's going on, right? These players are being paid, and in some cases they're being paid lots of money. And it's not as much about you sort of recruiting these kids, right? Yes, facilities matter and coaching. And Belichick can say he's got the coaching, right? He's going to bring in the staff that's going to develop these kids. But it's really what Deion got all the flack for last year, which is saying, hey, I'm going to start treating these kids like professionals. because that's what they want to be, right? If you want to be a professional athlete, I'm going to start treating you like one. And Belichick essentially came out and said, that's what we're going to do. I'm going to basically build a staff that can really coach and develop you and prepare you for the next level. And everyone said, oh, no, you've got to get these kids out of high school. I'll be curious to, number one, see how long Belichick stays. But number two, I'll really be curious with him how much he recruits high school, similar to Deion, versus how much he pulls in the transfer portal. Because, again, Deion has said that over and over again. I'm only going to get a select number of high school kids, and then I'm really going to pull from the portal because these kids are ready to play, and it's like free agency.
SPEAKER 14 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 03 :
So it's an interesting major shift, Dad, and I think this is just the start. I don't think it's the end.
SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back, and it's that time of the week where we do our car reviews. Richard, you just drove a 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser, and it's not like the Land Cruisers of old, or maybe it is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I was going to say, there's sort of a play on words here, right? It's not like the Land Cruisers... Of the recent old, right? It's not the ones that they just got rid of. And so for some of you, I guess, buffs or car buffs, we'll call it, right? You're more used to the bigger Land Cruiser, right? The more luxurious one. It had the TVs and all sorts of stuff on it. That is no longer the case. They actually got rid of that for a year, brought this back. But it's not to be confused. This is a midsize SUV, five passengers. It's right between like a 4Runner and a Sequoia, if you're familiar with kind of the truck-based SUVs. There's no longer a V8. It is a V6, and in this case, this was actually the hybrid version of it. I'll kind of get to the details here. Yeah, basically, it's got a 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine with the hybrid system, 326 horsepower. 465 pound feet of torque. This thing, Dad, is sort of meant to be bought and go out on the road, or I should say off the road in a lot of cases, right? This is meant to do that. And like you said, you are more familiar of the Land Cruisers of, I guess I'm going to call them yesteryear. This much more aligns with that.
SPEAKER 14 :
It does. I mean, yeah, way back in the day with the FJ40s, FJ60s, some of, again, you old car buffs that Richard just mentioned. I remember some of those vehicles from way back when. They were sort of a runoff of the Jeep CJs back in the day. And then the Land Cruisers, of course, came along. And they ran that way for a very long time until they really... I guess I could say, Richard, modernize that platform, and it was very popular around the world, not just here in the U.S., and people would drive those things for half a million miles and not exaggerating and came to love that vehicle. Well, as you said a moment ago, that particular model ended. You can get... You can basically get that vehicle only in a lot more luxurious form on the Lexus end of things, but it is not one of the same. That's, I think, some of the confusion as well. In the past, Richard, you could buy the Land Cruiser or get a little bit fancier Lexus of the same basic vehicle. That is not the case anymore. This is more of that old traditional Land Cruiser style.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is. I mean, it's related to the new Lexus GX in a way, but it's different, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
But it's not, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because that GX, you can get with a third row and such, and this Land Cruiser, you can't. And I'll kind of get into the specifics, and then we'll finish talking about the rest. Three trim levels, Dad, for this model year, 2024, 1958, which is, again, a throwback to kind of the no-nonsense, no-frills origin of the Land Cruiser. the medium edition, literally just called Land Cruiser, or the first edition, which is, you know, sort of, well, it's what it sounds like, right? It's kind of a special one. You can get some different things on it. You can spruce this vehicle up. The one we drove was not spruced up, right? It had cloth seats. It had, honestly, Dad, heck, it had a, it didn't even have a power driver's seat. I'm manually, you know, pumping myself up if I wanted to sit higher or lower myself down or scoot forward. Whatever it might be there does have some things as far as dual zone climate. And it's got a smaller center screen. Again, we drove the 1958 edition, I want to specify there, which, again, is supposed to be an ode to the older generation. As it sat, Dad, again, not a whole lot of options on it. As it sat, $60,790, which, again, you have to be the judge of it. I will say this. At our altitude, and I think off-road, which we didn't get a chance to take it and we're even limited in what we can or can't do, this vehicle ran really well up here at our altitude, Dad, with the I-Force Max. underneath the hood. This thing got up and went. It went when you wanted it to. Some people argue that the braking was a little bit subpar, but what I would say, Dad, is it's still a big SUV. I mean, it's not a small car by any stretch of the imagination. So, again, it's not meant to be a little sports car that's going to be able to slam on the brakes in that sense. But they've done a nice job at allowing for some upgrades if you want to, depending on what you're looking for. This particular model had a roof rack, had some rock rails on it, In terms of styling, Dad, it's not like the Land Cruisers of yesteryear. It's more modernized, right? It is. It's got some sleek, a little bit boxy. Again, folks, if you've seen the new Lexus GXs running around, you've seen these. But this is not the Land Cruiser of the outgoing model, Dad. And that's not to say it's a bad thing. And like you say, sort of an ode, and a lot of people are going to know this car, your Land Cruisers from... from many years ago, that's kind of where they want to get back to, right? They want this thing to be the do-it-all car for you, the do-it-all SUV, right? You can take the kids to school and you can go off-road. You can take this thing camping. You can tow your camper depending on how you want to do it. It really is meant to be that sport utility vehicle, right, the SUV. Mm-hmm. It's really meant to do that in a lot of cases. And so I think they've done a nice job on it. My only, honestly, nitpick, Dad, is just for the 1958, you're paying $60,000 for a car, and you don't get any of the frills that I mentioned.
SPEAKER 05 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 03 :
But that's just a personal experience, right? That's more of my personal opinion. Some of you, Dad, and some of your listeners may say, hey, when I'm off-road and I'm doing some of this other stuff, I don't want to mess with any of that, right? I don't want to have the risk of my seat not working because I get some water in it or whatever it might be. So outside of that, very comfortable, quiet. The roof rack did add a little bit of wind noise driving down the road, but that's to be expected pretty much on any vehicle when you start adding noise. some additional accessories, Dad, as far as that goes. That's right. Overall, was really pleased with it. Fuel economy, let me get that for folks really quick, was an average of 23. And again, this is partly, it's a heavy vehicle, Dad, but due to that hybrid technology where you can actually hear and feel the engine, shut off at times. 22 city, 25 highway. And again, we were actually right there about 23, 24 miles per gallon. So for folks that want to learn more, they're starting to get some leads on the dealership data. I've seen several of them driving around town. They are out there. We encourage folks to get out as we always do test drive it because what we think that and what we like or don't like is someone may differ completely from that. And so that's why we encourage you to get out to your Toyota dealership and let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, 30 seconds or so left before I let you go. One last thing, never drop the ball before crossing the goal line as you head into the end zone, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Dad, in sports, there's singular plays that change the trajectory of a game, and this could change the trajectory of a season. The Broncos were close to going down 20-7, and momentum is a crazy thing that they probably wouldn't have gotten back. But because the Colts running back Jonathan Taylor decides to drop the ball literally a half a foot from the goal line, and I think they got the call right, it literally— Yeah, it came out of his hands before he got across the plane. It changed it from the Broncos needing to win two of their next three to where they can get in without actually winning any of their next three at the right combination. But they need to win one of their next three games, and the Broncos will be in the playoffs since the first time since they won the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER 14 :
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