Elected officials in New Jersey and New York demand answers from the federal government on why drones continue to fly over the East Coast. Meanwhile, Sen. Raphael Warnock, when asked about the government allowing abortion responds with, “It’s what Jesus would do”.
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Florida man exposes himself in public after asking a woman to take his picture.
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A 36-year-old illegal...
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alien from Guatemala. He came into the country illegally, was arrested for the second time for the same crime. He goes up to women, says, can you take my picture? And if they're nice and say yes, then he whips out his male copulatory organ. So a Florida woman and her 11-year-old daughter, they were in Martin County. They were taking pictures of holiday decorations, the Christmas lights and everything. And a man asked to have his picture taken using his cell phone. And like he was going to get pictures of himself with the lights. And she was nice and said she would do it. And then... Once she took one photo and then he gestured below his waist to get her to look down. And when she did, everything was out in the wind. And yeah, so she immediately notified law enforcement. He was arrested before that. exposed because he exposed himself. And he apparently I mean, this is he had asked two women to take his picture literally almost a year to the day and did the exact same thing. So ICE, I mean, Homeland Security Investigations, they put a detainer on him. He was going to be charged with illegal reentry after this other case concludes. But oh, my gosh. And they think that there's probably more victims. that this guy has. That's so weird. Why are people like that? I mean, just stop it. Stop being weird little perverts. Weird. A Lyft passenger was arrested after a shocked driver found him naked in the back seat. The suspect told police that he, quote, got a little naked after he was overcome with a, quote, feeling. Oh, gross. 48-year-old passenger, excuse me, who was not named. He was picked up in Lakeland near Tampa, and the driver heard a strange noise from the back seat. He was shocked to find that the passenger had taken off all his clothes, and he immediately told him to stop. He contacted the police. and reported that Lyft actually... I guess you can notify Lyft with a button, you know, like if you're a driver. They contacted police, said one of their drivers was in a very uncomfortable situation, and the suspect said, yeah, he only got a little naked, and that was, you know, that's all, no big deal. So he was charged with exposure of sexual organs, and he was taken into custody. What is up? Like, is it a full moon? Like, what was... What's happening? Good night. Let's see this. Oh, no. Oh, here's one. This one may be one for the books. A meth-smoking Florida man attacked a mattress in a jealous rage. Fort Walton Beach. A Florida man used a bedpost to attack a mattress because he thought it was a man hiding. The Okaloosa County Sheriff's Office, they reported that 37-year-old Felipe Oquendo was saying that he thought that his girlfriend was cheating on him, and he thought the mattress was a man, and so he tried to beat it to death. He literally ripped off a bedpost and then locked the bedroom door. She was able to escape, and then he beat the mattress. And then he later admitted to having smoked meth. Obviously, if you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, All Family Pharmacy has you covered. Whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support or general well-being, All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages. designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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On the way here, I was on the phone with my OEM team, and we now have guidance coming from the state. And that guidance does say two different things. First of all, if there is a downed drone in our vicinity, we are immediately to call the bomb squad of our county. And second, our fire department has been instructed to make sure they wear hazmat suits.
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So if something falls out of the sky that people have seen, and some of these things are as big as an SUV, if that happens, you're to treat this more than a plane crash. It's treated like an attack on the homeland?
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That is correct, because they're not quite sure if there's a payload or not.
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Oh, what? They're not quite sure that it's a... Okay, I got concerns. I got concerns. Where's the good old boy network? Get them out here. Call them up. Because they need it. Okay, first off, greetings and salutations. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. I... So it's – this is like a what came first, the chicken or the egg question. Does it seem like there's more drones flying out and around everywhere or is it that people are just paying attention to the fact that there are all of these drones flying out everywhere? Right.
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I think it's both. I think there is more and now more people are paying attention. I think it's both.
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So you think it goes both ways?
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I think it does.
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Because, I mean... especially like in some of the airspace that I've seen them, they've said that they've been flying like near military bases. I mean, this is like restricted stuff, right? I mean, this is like restricted, you know, areas. So I've got concerns because I'm like, well, if you and I flew a drone over there, what would happen to us? Because you have to register them. That's the other thing. Like, are these not registered? No. And if they're not registered, like I was under the impression that, oh, if you don't register your stuff with the FAA or the appropriate agency, then, you know, you're going to get it shot out the sky. That's kind of what I was under the impression.
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Do you want a little morsel of how deep I got into the rabbit hole on this over the weekend? Oh, my gosh.
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Is this what you did all weekend?
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Well, not all weekend. It's just that, you know.
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Okay, so that's Kane for yes.
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I had a little, I may have bought more Reynolds wrap.
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What, what? Get into it. Well. Aliens, right? Tell me.
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There was a rabbit hole that said that, hey, imagine these are, you know, obviously they're not shooting them down. They're over our military bases. It's near military bases. It's clearly us, you know, up there with those FAA lights and everything. Under that assumption, there was talk of radioactive material being shipped into the United States.
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Okay, that was one guy's like... Now, hold on.
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That wasn't just one guy's.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Why do you always do this? Okay, go ahead. Why do you always do this?
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Go on, go on, go on.
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So they are drones at night. The only time you're going to fly at night, because as a drone, you're not going to see much unless you have special detection equipment, i.e. looking for radioactive signatures while in the air. So...
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that was one of the rabbit holes that i went down so saturday night you're you so you so because i saw that and it was this dude for those of you who are not following the drone thing like kane or ir i mean i'm not saying that i stayed up like you know till 1 30 in the morning reading about drone stuff but maybe i stayed up till 1 30 in the morning reading about drone stuff i don't know look at the time stamp with some of the audio i sent you yeah me neither Yeah, none of us did. But it's just, you know, I don't know.
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I wasn't able to verify what that guy's saying, the guy we're talking about.
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Because he was a guy who worked, wasn't he like, he worked in aerospace engineering or something like that. And it was like his, it was some rando's thought process on social media. And of course, the media sees a rando and they're like, it's a slow news cycle. We got to publish it and print everything he's saying.
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That is true.
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Yeah. So, you know, I mean, I'm just, you know, I'm just saying. So, again, welcome to the program. We've got, oh, my gosh, a lot for you today. It's Dana Lash with you. You can listen coast to coast. You can also follow the radio program on the simulcast of the radio program. You can find that out. Channel 347, DirecTV, the chat set. Rumble. You can find us on X. All those good things. And we got Kentonji Brown Jackson on Broadway. We got Palace Intrigue. We got all kinds of stuff. It's the week before Christmas. Half of you are mentally checked out. I'll be real. Y'all are. Half of you are mentally checked out. And that's okay because it's the season. It is the season, right? So... We're going to get you set up as we roll into Christmas, all those good things, and get you all set up for the week. It's going to be our show the last week before Christmas. I'm going to warn you. It's weird because the news cycle is dry except for like every time we do this. There are always one or two wild stories going into Christmas break. I said UFO. The drone thing. It's one of them. And I am upset because you guys know I'm obsessed with ancient aliens. I'm obsessed with aliens. One of my dream vacations is to get my photo pictured right outside the gate where after you go past it, they'll shoot you at Area 51. I planned a whole road trip from Vegas once in Shacho going all the way up the two hours that it would take to get to Shacho. the area to Roswell and then the little truck stop outside and the little hotel and all this. I know where the gravel road... I mean, I know all this. I'm totally on a government watch list. Listen to me. I sound like Charlie from Always Sunny in Philadelphia right now. Like his stalker wall. That's what I sound like. So... I know where the I mean, I'm obsessed, obsessed. So I'm like, I really desperately want this to be aliens, because if it's just us looking for radioactive stuff, that's super boring. Unless there's a kaiju somewhere in New Jersey. And that's what we're looking for. Because, you know, as you know, according to canon, canonically, kaijus cane, they feast upon radioactive nuclear things. And so that would make sense. That's kind of a stretch. But here we are. It's 2024. You know, just saying. So we got a lot. I did say Ketanji Brown-Jackson on. How do you guys send me? What in the world? How do you guys send stuff this fast? Already, I got a comment like, what do you mean Ketanji Brown-Jackson's Supreme Court on Broadway? Yes, we'll get to that. That was quick. We'll get to it. So as we got a lot of stuff to hit, just trust. All right. So first up, like we said, we've been talking about all this drone stuff. There was one. Listen to this. We played three coming in, right? That was audio sent by three? Okay, play three. This is Channel 7, ABC affiliate. It's a glowing orb on camera in the New Jersey sky.
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You know, when things like this are happening, it seems everyone starts to look up, like my crew and I have been here in Mendham recording this video that you're looking at right now. We have no idea what it is, if it's a natural phenomenon, because it could be. But this is why so many municipalities are now asking people to reach out and send their videos to them or to experts who might be able to sort out what they're seeing in the skies. But I guarantee there are so many people looking up and making those recordings because...
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For those of you who are not watching the simulcast of the radio program, so back in the day, it's still there. It's called the Magic House. It's in Kirkwood. Right? First neighborhood I lived in after I moved out of my house. And they had this thing and it was... What was it? It was like the static electricity ball where you touched it and your hair would stand up. And everybody would touch it and they would get their photo taken and you'd put it on a pen saying, I visited the Magic House. Right? So... It looks like they sent that up into the air over Jersey. That's what it looks like. It looks like the Magic House orb completely. Juan says it looks like a lens flare. Or, guys, the obvious answer here, it's aliens. Just saying. Gotta be. Gotta be aliens. See, you all are going to be surprised when, like, the saucer lands, when they finally feel safe enough to land and are... our high crime planet. And when they get out and they're like, who is your leader? Take us to your leader. You all are going to be surprised. Your girl's not. I'm just going to be like, I expected this. I saw it coming. Sup aliens. You know, don't, don't laser nuke us, bro. I can't breathe. I, you know, that's how. Just it's just so much more interesting if it's aliens, if it's just like basic government stuff. How long have we lived with basic government conspiracy theories? Right. That go nowhere. Show us some aliens. Just saying. All right. So, I mean, there's a lot. I mean, they so there's OK. Here's a military drone expert. He says he knows in audio somebody seven. What is happening here? This is. Oh, this is the guy. Okay. This is the rando. So I thought this is the rando that's okay. All right. This is the rando that was on X who is taught. I don't know. Maybe it's an interesting theory. Just go ahead and listen.
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I'm making this video because I have figured out what the drone situation is. I was in the Army, active duty. I worked on drones. I was a maintenance NCO for some surveillance drones. And before that, I worked on the Apache, the Kiowa. I know aviation. So what people are not noticing is that you have two separate types of drones and two separate types of things in the air right now. First off, the drones that you see with flight lights or anti-collision lights or the things that the FAA requires, those are drones that are probably operated by the United States government. Now, the orbs that you've been seeing on the Internet, that is the reason why all those drones are up there. And that is also why the government isn't telling you what's going on. And that's because the drones that you see that look like regular aircraft, those drones are up there to get some information on the actual orbs.
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Yeah, it's aliens. It's aliens. It's all aliens. I don't care what this guy. You know what? I'm also not a military expert, but I am an expert in stuff I see in the sky. Like I can look up and I'm like, that's a bird. That's the sun. That's the moon. That's a cloud. That's a damn alien. I can look right up and see it. That's my expertise. Take it or leave it. Take it or leave it. I will say this News Nation reporter, Audio Sunbite 8, was like, he said that his entire view of this changed because he witnessed 50 of them. You need to watch this. 50 of them flying into the Garden State from the Atlantic. Watch this.
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Hi, Elizabeth. Well, I gotta be honest here. You know, when this story first came out a few weeks ago, as a resident of New Jersey, as a journalist, I didn't pay it much credence. I thought it would turn out to be a bunch of pranksters and this would all be over by now. The experience I had last night, however, changed the way I feel about this story completely. What I saw was more sophisticated than I ever imagined.
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More sophisticated. Than he ever imagined. There's there's video and there there are there are different videos and different photographs of like a whole herd of them. I don't know what you call like if it's a bunch of crows, it's a murder of crows. Right. I don't know what you just a bunch of bunch of drones. A buttload of drones. How about that? It's an actual measurement. symmetric system so they there was video show them all coming in from the atlantic and that was kind of creepy right that was a little creepy but then i'm like how did you get that footage did you send a drone up how many of that is just drones watching for drones and then how many of them are you know the uaps uja federation of new york is caring for jews everywhere and new yorkers of all backgrounds and responding to crises close to home and far away
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So I wanted to get this story. It's from the Hill that we had last segment. Saved over a millionaire. Boomers are less likely to share their wealth, according to a study. So it's their money. And who is you? Forty five percent of wealthy boomers, they say, intend to enjoy their fortunes while alive. And they they said that millennials plan to share their for a good job for you. You can't take it when you kick the bucket. So what are you doing? Like, you know, who cares? Who cares? They said millionaires, millionaire millennials and Gen Xers are twice as more likely as boomers to prioritize sharing. I don't share. First off, I didn't even teach my kids to share. Do you know why? Because it is all about mental conditioning for socialism. And I think it's overrated. If you want to play with the toy that my kid has at the playground, buy your own damn toy for your kid. I don't care how mean it sounds. I don't do that. I'm all about kindness, but I don't believe in this forced idea of sharing. You don't have to share your wealth unless you want to, because forced charity is just resentment and action. And it is not anything biblical or anything or kind. That's all it is. So cry harder. Let's see here. Apple is taking heat over a like a false AI generated news alert. Luigi Mangione had shot. It was apparently like a fake thing that went out. I could have probably said that's false, you know, looking at it. He hired a powerhouse attorney. Nobody who makes the moves that he's made is going to know. An open AI whistleblower was found dead, dead in their San Francisco apartment. Yeah, he was blowing the whistle on AI, and there was a ton of lawsuits over its business model. The 26-year-old, I'm sure it was just from old age, right? I'm sure it was just totally... I don't know. He accused OpenAI of violating U.S. copyright law while developing ChatGPT. All kinds of lawsuits were filed. The medical examiner has not released his cause of death, but they said, well, currently there's no evidence of foul play. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Apple plans thinner foldable iPhones to revive growth because they've been plateauing. That will happen when you release basically the same phone every other year, I got to say. I got the new phone. I don't think you need to get the new phone. If you got the 15, it's fine. The 16 does not any. I mean, the camera's not bad. I think the cameras have gotten worse. Am I the only person who thinks that? I think the photos actually are worse. Yeah, I do. I actually do. But they said that they're going to change and they want to revive growth because they've only done drip, drip incremental upgrades over the years. So now they want to introduce a super thin iPhone that you can fold in half. I might be interested. You know, I like gadgets. Let's see. Hawaii's population continues to decline as more people move to California. And you want to know why? Because the high taxes, the insane cost of living and the incessant Democrat leadership has ruined everything. That's why. That's why. And then they go to another state that has just the same thing. A passenger stood for a seven hour flight and a lot of people were talking about it. It was a seven hour flight and they said she wouldn't sit down. They said that she stood in the aisle for the entire flight. Maybe she had just, you know, had surgery or was uncomfortable or has deep vein thrombosis or something. She didn't bother anybody. She moved out of the way when she needed to. I wanted to touch on this audio that I it's the Raphael Warnock audio. Or interview. This interview that Raphael Warnock gave, which was... pretty wild. He was speaking about abortion. Now, if you remember, Raphael Warnock has always been very, very far left, right? A very, very far left, a huge time, a huge abortion supporter. And he had given this interview where he said he supports abortion because it's what Jesus would have done. I put this up on Facebook and a lot of you lost your minds deservedly. He was talking with MSNBC and he was on her program this past week. And now we know that he's further on the left because – or all the – I mean we know where he stands on abortion and we know that he's – been supportive of it up till the moment of birth, because he was the guy who sponsored that Senate bill that was going to codify a taxpayer funded abortion on demand up until the moment of birth. And they were they slipped it or he he sponsored this provision. They were slipping it into the really weird name Women's Protection Act, which was just goofy. It had nothing to do about protecting women. And he defended it. And this was during that, when he was facing off against, he was fighting for the seat, fighting for the Senate seat. And he was going up against Herschel Walker. And remember that whole thing and his fight with Herschel Walker on that? So he was asked about this. I want you to listen to this audio. This was him talking to Joy Reid. And this is how he justifies it. Remember, he calls himself a quote-unquote reverend. Listen.
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It's one of the things that's on the ballot. And, you know, I get a lot of pushback from people who seem to think that they own the interpretation of the gospel. But I've been studying the scriptures my whole life. I'm committed to the faith. And as a pastor, I have a profound reverence for life. And as a pastor and a person of faith, I have a deep respect for choice. And I still think, as I've said time and time again, that a patient's room is too small and cramped a space for a woman, her doctor, and the United States government. But if we care about life, you know, black women are dying three to four times the rate of white women dying. And childbirth as a result of childbirth. And so if you care about life, we ought to find a way. That's a place where government could show up and address the obvious bias in our health care system. It's what Jesus would do. I think it's exactly what Jesus would do.
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Senator and Reverend.
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Wow. Wow. Wow. First off, I don't know where he gets that weird idea. I keep hearing that statistic, and I've seen it, you know, a number of different entities try to debunk it or put context on it. What he just said there is one of the most demonic things I think I've ever heard. Now, again, his position on abortion, I'm not exaggerating when I say up till the moment of birth. The language of the proposal that he had sponsored... was just that up until, I mean, quite literally as the baby is, is being delivered through the birth canal. That's demonic. Because you don't need – you should have made up your damn mind first off if you're an abortion supporter and you like to say safe and rare. Shouldn't you have made your mind up like, I don't know, a heck of a lot earlier? Actually, the question is shouldn't you have made your mind up when you were looking at what kind of prophylactic to use or what kind of birth control pill to use or what kind of million other things that you have at your disposal that you could have used or when you just engaged in the act anyway? So I'm not exaggerating when I say that he I mean, he believes in murder, murder. This is not just abortion. This is murder, murder, murder. Abortion is murder. But this is like the baby's alive and here on Earth. Let's kill it. Don't want to decide. I didn't want it. That's how far this and every Democrat senator. Agreed with it. They were all co-sponsoring it. So that's why I say the party has gotten so extreme on this. That's not just I'm not exaggerating. That's pretty extreme. And it's incredibly extreme. When you look at Democrat voters, they actually don't support it after 15 weeks. They don't support abortion after 15 weeks. So even by Democrat measures, that's super extreme for the left. But that's where every Democrat senator was. Not to his point that somehow it's what Jesus would have done. That's what Reid said. And Warnock goes, yeah, I think it's exactly what Jesus did. That's literally the opposite of what Jesus had said to do. In your womb, I knew you. Do not murder. I mean, it's pretty clear. And I just found that absolutely reprehensible. Even the devil can quote scripture. And the fact that Raphael Warnock can label himself a reverend is proof of that. The fact that he can just do this 30,000 foot, I'm going to cherry pick what I want to cite out of the Bible and not provide any context or just pretend that it affirms my worldview. It's demonic. And there is a great warning biblically against people like Raphael Warnock who are cosplaying as shepherds of the flock and misleading people, leading them astray. The Bible is very clear all throughout the New Testament. Have a millstone hang around your neck and thrown into the sea, the depths of the sea. If you cause one of these little ones to stumble, he wasn't just talking about children. He was talking about people new in faith. People were coming to Jesus. Wow. And there is a higher, there's a serious level of accountability for people in positions of shepherding. A high level of accountability. Wow. and a high penalty for it when you abuse your power and you mislead people. And that's exactly... Man, there is not anything rude or hateful that I could say about Raphael Warnock that is even going to compare to the penalty that awaits him upon his death. Because the good Lord above is... It's pretty clear. I guess he missed that part of Scripture. You know, I guess he missed that part of Scripture. Maybe it was when he was hitting on his wife or something. I don't know. Beating on her. I don't know. Maybe he was... He just didn't have time to read it.
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SPEAKER 07 :
On the way here, I was on the phone with my OEM team, and we now have guidance coming from the state. And that guidance does say two different things. First of all, if there is a downed drone in our vicinity, we are immediately to call the bomb squad of our county. And second, our fire department has been instructed to make sure they wear hazmat suits.
SPEAKER 18 :
So if something falls out of the sky that people have seen, and some of these things are as big as an SUV, if that happens, you're to treat this more than a plane crash. It's treated like an attack on the homeland?
SPEAKER 07 :
That is correct, because they're not quite sure if there's a payload or not.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, what? They're not quite sure that it's a... Okay, I got concerns. I got concerns. Where's the good old boy network? Get them out here. Call them up. Because they need it. Okay, first off, greetings and salutations. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. I... So this is like a what came first, the chicken or the egg question. Does it seem like there's more drones flying out and around everywhere? Or is it that people are just paying attention to the fact that there are all of these drones flying out everywhere?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think it's both. I think there is more and now more people are paying attention. I think it's both.
SPEAKER 17 :
So you think it goes both ways?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think it does.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because, I mean... especially like in some of the airspace that I've seen them, they've said that they've been flying like near military bases. I mean, this is like restricted stuff, right? I mean, this is like restricted, you know, areas. So I've got concerns because I'm like, well, if you and I flew a drone over there, what would happen to us? Because you have to register them. That's the other thing. Like, are these not registered? And if they're not registered, like I was under the impression that, oh, if you don't register your stuff with the FAA or the appropriate agency, then, you know, you're going to get it shot out the sky. That's kind of what I was under the impression.
SPEAKER 12 :
Do you want a little morsel of how deep I got into the rabbit hole on this over the weekend?
SPEAKER 17 :
Is this what you did all weekend?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, not all weekend.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so that's Kane for yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
I had a little, I may have bought more Reynolds wrap.
SPEAKER 17 :
Get into it. Aliens, right? Tell me.
SPEAKER 12 :
there was a rabbit hole that said that hey imagine these are you know obviously they're not shooting them down they're over our military bases it's near military bases it's clearly us you know up there with those faa lights and everything under that assumption there was a there was talk of radioactive material being shipped into the United States.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, that was one guy's, like... Now, hold on.
SPEAKER 12 :
That wasn't just one guy's.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 12 :
Why do you always do this? Okay, go ahead. Why do you always do this?
SPEAKER 17 :
Go on, go on, go on.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, they are drones at night. The only time you're going to fly at night, because as a drone, you're not going to see much unless you have special detection equipment, i.e., looking for radioactive signatures while in the air. So...
SPEAKER 17 :
that was one of the rabbit holes that i went down so saturday night you're you so you so because i saw that and it was this dude for those of you who are not following the drone thing like kane or ir i mean i'm not saying that i stayed up like you know till 1 30 in the morning reading about drone stuff but maybe i stayed up till 1 30 in the morning reading about drone stuff i don't know look at the time stamp with some of the audio i sent you yeah me neither Yeah, none of us did. But it's just, you know, I don't know.
SPEAKER 12 :
I wasn't able to verify what that guy's saying, the guy we're talking about.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because he was a guy who worked, wasn't he like, he worked in aerospace engineering or something like that. And it was like his, it was some rando's thought process on social media. And of course, the media sees a rando and they're like, it's a slow news cycle. We got to publish and print everything he's saying.
SPEAKER 11 :
That is true.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. So, you know, I mean, I'm just, you know, I'm just saying. So, again, welcome to the program. We've got, oh, my gosh, a lot for you today. It's Dana Lash with you. You can listen coast to coast. You can also follow the radio program on the simulcast of the radio program. You can find that out. Channel 347, DirecTV, the chat set. Rumble. You can find us on X. All those good things. And we got Kentonji Brown Jackson on Broadway. We got Palace Intrigue. We got all kinds of stuff. It's the week before Christmas. Half of you are mentally checked out. I'll be real. Y'all are. Half of you are mentally checked out. And that's okay because it's the season. It is the season, right? So... We're going to get you set up as we roll into Christmas, all those good things, and get you all set up for the week. It's going to be our show the last week before Christmas. I'm going to warn you. It's weird because the news cycle is dry, except for like every time we do this, there are always one or two wild stories going into Christmas break. I said UFO. The drone thing. It's one of them. And I am upset because you guys know I'm obsessed with ancient aliens. I'm obsessed with aliens. One of my dream vacations is to get my photo pictured right outside the gate where after you go past it, they'll shoot you at Area 51. I planned a whole road trip from Vegas once in Shacho going all the way up the two hours that it would take to get to Shacho. uh, the area to Roswell and then the little truck stop outside and the little hotel and then all this. And you got, I know where the gravel road, I mean, I know all this. I'm totally on a government watch list. Listen to me. I sound like Charlie from always sunny in Philadelphia right now. Like his stalker wall. That's what I sound like. So. I know where the I mean, I'm obsessed, obsessed. So I'm like, I really desperately want this to be aliens, because if it's just us looking for radioactive stuff, that's super boring. Unless there's a kaiju somewhere in New Jersey. And that's what we're looking for. Because, you know, as you know, according to canon, canonically, kaijus came, they feast upon radioactive nuclear things. And so that would make sense. That's kind of a stretch. But here we are. It's 2024. You know, just saying. So we got a lot. I did say Ketanji Brown-Jackson on. How do you guys send me? What in the world? How do you guys send stuff this fast? Already, I got a comment like, what do you mean Ketanji Brown-Jackson's Supreme Court on Broadway? Yes, we'll get to that. That was quick. We'll get to it. So as we got a lot of stuff to hit, just trust. All right, so first up, like we said, we've been talking about all this drone stuff. There was one. Listen to this. We played three coming in, right? That was audio 7x3? Okay, play three. This is Channel 7, ABC affiliate. It's a glowing orb on camera in the New Jersey sky.
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, when things like this are happening, it seems everyone starts to look up, like my crew and I have been here in Mendham recording this video that you're looking at right now. We have no idea what it is, if it's a natural phenomenon, because it could be. But this is why so many municipalities are now asking people to reach out and send their videos to them or to experts who might be able to sort out what they're seeing in the skies. But I guarantee there are so many people looking up and making those recordings because this
SPEAKER 17 :
So for those of you who are not watching the simulcast of the radio program, so back in the day, it's still there, it's called the Magic House, it's in Kirkwood. Right? First neighborhood I lived in after I moved out of my house. And they had this thing, and it was, what came, what was it? It was like the static electricity ball where you touched it and your hair would stand up. And everybody would touch it, and they would get their photo taken, and you'd put it on a pin saying, I visited the Magic House. Right? So... It looks like they sent that up into the air over Jersey. That's what it looks like. It looks like the Magic House orb completely. Juan says it looks like a lens flare. Or, guys, the obvious answer here, it's aliens. Just saying. Gotta be. Gotta be aliens. See, you all are going to be surprised when, like, the saucer lands, when they finally feel safe enough to land and are... our high crime planet, and when they get out and they're like, who is your leader? Take us to your leader. You all are going to be surprised. Your girl's not. I'm just going to be like, I expected this. I saw it coming. Sup, aliens? You know, don't laser nuke us, bro. I can't breathe. You know, that's... just it's just so much more interesting if it's aliens if it's just like basic government stuff how long have we lived with basic government conspiracy theories right that go nowhere show us some aliens just saying all right so i mean there's a lot i mean they so there's okay here's a military drone expert he says he knows in audio somebody seven what is happening here this is Oh, this is the guy. Okay. This is the rando. So I thought this is the rando that's okay. All right. This is the rando that was on X who is taught. I don't know. Maybe it's an interesting theory. Just go ahead and listen.
SPEAKER 04 :
making this video because i have figured out this is a different guy situation is i was in the army active duty i worked on drones i was a maintenance nco for some surveillance drones and before that i worked on the apache the kiowa i know aviation so what people are not noticing is that you have two separate types of drones and two separate types of things in the air right now First off, the drones that you see with flight lights or anti-collision lights or the things that the FAA requires, those are drones that are probably operated by the United States government. Now, the orbs that you've been seeing on the Internet, that is the reason why all those drones are up there. And that is also why the government isn't telling you what's going on. And that's because the drones that you see that look like regular aircraft, those drones are up there to get some information on the actual orbs. Yeah, it's aliens.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's aliens. It's all aliens. I don't care what this guy. You know what? I'm also not a military expert, but I am an expert in stuff I see in the sky. Like I can look up and I'm like, that's a bird. That's the sun. That's the moon. That's a cloud. That's a damn alien. I can look right up and see it. That's my expertise. Take it or leave it. Take it or leave it. I will say this News Nation reporter, Audio Sunbite 8, was like, he said that his entire view of this changed because he witnessed 50 of them. You need to watch this. 50 of them flying into the Garden State from the Atlantic. Watch this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hi, Elizabeth. Well, I got to be honest here. You know, when this story first came out a few weeks ago, as a resident of New Jersey, as a journalist, I didn't pay it much credence. I thought it would turn out to be a bunch of pranksters and this would all be over by now. The experience I had last night, however, changed the way I feel about this story completely. What I saw was more sophisticated than I ever imagined.
SPEAKER 17 :
More sophisticated. Than he ever imagined. There's there's video and there there are there are different videos and different photographs of like a whole herd of them. I don't know what you call like if it's a bunch of crows, it's a murder of crows. Right. I don't know what you just a bunch of bunch of drones. A buttload of drones. How about that? It's an actual measurement. Symmetric system. So there was video to show them all coming in from the Atlantic. And that was kind of creepy, right? That was a little creepy. But then I'm like, how did you get that footage? Did you send a drone up? How many of that is just drones watching for drones? And then how many of them are the UAPs? That's the other thing. Like, I don't want to, but it is weird, but we don't have any questions from the government. I do have more answers. I do have more. So we got the drones. We're going to come back to this. We also, a couple other things before we, I can't believe, really already the first segment? Ketanji Brown-Jackson was on Broadway in And Juliet, a queer twist on Romeo and Juliet. Why couldn't you just write your own story? Why do you have to appropriate Romeo and Juliet? Like, why do we got to do this stuff? It looks weird, guys. I think it's beneath the dignity of a Supreme Court justice to play theater kid. Right. We got to talk more about this because she's on stage. And she said that she wanted to, I guess, check the box of being the first black female Supreme Court justice to appear on a Broadway stage. That's like the weirdest thing. want ever right it's like i would like to be the first person to wear two shoes on my left foot at the same time i you know it's why really weird stuff we're going to come back to this we got a lot in addition to that we've got the palace intrigue the cabinet picks we're going to talk about the sec def drama a lot more and uh our partners over at burn a gun the non-firearm firearm And it's always good to diversify your self-defense arsenal because, you know, I would love to. I carry all the time and I have zero problem using lethal force. You come at me, UFA, UFO. That's kind of how I look at it. But I know that there are areas that are gun-free zones or gun-free buildings, private property or whatever it is. And sometimes, you know, you don't have the luxury of declining to go there. Maybe you got to go there as part of your job, but you also don't want to be a statistic. This is where burn a gun comes in. Stun guns, regular ones, are restricted to like one or two shots. Burna's most popular model, the Burna SD, has a five round capacity and shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. They have a whole carry bundle that you can get. This is a great holiday gift, too, by the way. You can get defense spray. They have a launcher carry bundle. They got all kinds of stuff. But it provides to you instant readiness, no recoil, easy target acquisition. It's legal in all 50 states. No background checks, no permits. They can ship it right to your front porch and it doesn't care about gun-free zone signs. It's an effective deterrent. And it's another option that you can have for self-defense, particularly when the state's trying to deny you or maybe a property owner wants to deny you. You can visit Byrna.com slash Dana and get 10% off your purchase. That's Byrna.com slash Dana for 10% off.
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SPEAKER 12 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 17 :
Today in why we need to beat more A-double snakes, spare the rod and spoil the child, massive brawl involving 100-plus Chicago students, three school floors, and it left four police officers injured. This is crazy. It was a Chicago high school. The police department said five people were arrested per ABC7. They didn't provide any details, but apparently... It involved like 14 and 15 year olds. It escalated into a brawl between, I mean, it started between girls. And then it just expanded into like a multi-floor brawl. And then everybody started fighting. It was a Southside High School. Students were in handcuffs. 100 students were fighting on three different floors. They had to use mace. It was just going crazy. And they put the building on lockdown. That's great. I mean, that's, you know, my gosh. Come on, parents. Come on, parents. We got to get your kids in check here. Chris Rock stunned the SNL. Apparently it was called one of the funniest monologues in the past 50 years. Chris Rock on SNL. I didn't watch SNL because I don't think anybody watches SNL except their families and like 90 year olds. And they said that he apparently had a super brutal Bill Clinton dig and was savaging, absolutely savaging, like people who irrationally hate, not dislike or disagree with, but irrationally hate Trump. I'm going to have to watch it because it sounds very interesting. Jamie Foxx says he got hit in the mouth with a glass during a dinner altercation and he needed stitches. Man, this man has been going through it, like a stroke and then now this. Apparently people were being rude and vulgar. And then he asked them to stop because his family was present. And then somebody at the table threw glass that hit him in the face. And so the cops are involved, stitches, et cetera. We've got a lot more to get into. The economy. We got Trump's remarks. UAP's the sec def stuff. Stick with us. Our partners over at Preborn. Great organization that's out there saving lives right and left. And they're meeting with mothers. And they're helping them as these mothers are facing an unexpected pregnancy. unplanned pregnancy I should say and a lot of people are searching for hope and a lot of people feel like this is that's you know a lot of women they think that that's their last resort and it's not and that's what pre-born ministry steps in to help with they meet these women they introduce them to their babies ultrasounds they listen to the heartbeat when that happens studies shown that a child's chance of surviving doubles at that point but that's not all they partner with these women up until the toddler years making sure that these families get the best start. And that just goes so much. That's exactly what is needed. They steward these women. They help this new life. And they're able to do it because of your generous donations. Save a life this Christmas. It starts at just $28. I mean, by donating that amount, you can help support women and babies in need and provide vital care and resources. You can make even a larger, life-changing donation, $5,000, $10,000, $15,000. You can use that to save countless babies, maximize your year-end tax deduction. It's doubled with a special matching grant as well, so your gift will have double the impact. Any donation matters. So if you want to know how to donate, it's simple and easy. You just dial pound or 4millennials, hashtag pound. Pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250, keyword baby. You can also visit preborn.com slash Dana to donate online. Every contribution counts. Pound 250, say the keyword baby, preborn.com slash Dana.
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SPEAKER 21 :
Mr. President. Yes, please.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you expect Ron DeVantis to appoint Laura Trump to sign a Marco Rubio deal?
SPEAKER 21 :
No, I don't. I probably don't, but I don't know. Ron's doing a good job. That's his choice. Nothing to do with me. Laura's unbelievable. I mean, she was incredible. The job she did at the RNC as chairman, along with Michael Watley, the combination. But I can just speak for Laura. She is so highly respected by women. I mean, even her workout routines are through the roof. She lifts 150 pounds. I don't know how the hell she does it. She's a bad example for men and women's sports. I wouldn't be able to beat her, I don't believe. I'd try like hell. But no, she's an incredible woman. You know, it's funny. People oftentimes talk about nepotism. I never had... When I put her there, people said, how did you get her to do it? You know, she could have run for the Senate in North Carolina. Ted Budd would be the first to say. And he wouldn't have run. Nobody would have run. And she just said, no, I want to really focus on my children. When the election... And my family. She has a great family. When the election... Started getting closer. I asked her, would she go to Washington and work on the, you know, as chairman of the committee along with Michael Watley. And they did such an unbelievable job, especially on cheating. They stopped it. Or at least they stymied it. Too big to rig. And we won in a landslide. You know, we won tremendously. She did an amazing job. Now Ron is going to have to make, because Marco has been really a star already. And we haven't started, but, you know, we see signs of, from some people, very early, we see signs of stardom. And Marco has done incredibly well. he's sort of born for it. It was such an easy decision. The Marco decision was such an easy, but he leaves a vacancy in Florida and Ron's going to have to make that decision and he'll make the right decision. I also know that Laura's got so many other things. I mean, she's got so many other things.
SPEAKER 17 :
So this was a really good soundbite from a POTUS elect just actually a little bit ago. This was right before I, we came out on air and he was asked about, uh, this, uh, possibility of Lara Trump being put in Marco Rubio Senate seat, which we've talked a lot about. And Trump just gave the answer right there. He also mentioned that she could go to North Carolina. And, you know, really perform well if she were to challenge, you know, Tom Tillis, who is the Republican senator there in North Carolina. And I think that that's a more realistic approach because it's her home state. You know, she was there and then she was in New York and that's where and she's only just moved to Florida. That makes the most sense. Welcome back to the program. Bottom of the first hour, Dana Lash with you. There was a lot of discussion about this over the weekend because the Army-Navy game. And there were there was this do we have this Maggie Haberman quote? I sent this in. I know we have it. What? What? What? Fifty million and twenty four that. OK, that one. Can we play this? Because so in conjunction with what Trump just said, this is what was really kicking off a lot of this. The rumor mill and the rumor mongering.
SPEAKER 20 :
Listen, the president elect Trump had grown tired of hearing all the negative stories about him and was poised to move on. But what's changed his mind?
SPEAKER 13 :
Sure, John, I think it's still true that he was tired and is tired of negative stories, and what changed was a couple of things. One was he could not find, Trump could not find a single person in his orbit or even really outside of it who liked this idea of making Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, the Defense Secretary choice. And it was not, you know, we're going to drop Hegseth and going to look for a bunch of other people. It was Hegseth or DeSantis at that point. And so Trump was persuaded, also after a call from Pete Hegseth, to let Hegseth go out and see if he could fight his way past some of these stories.
SPEAKER 17 :
Now that actually is more in line with kind of how Trump approaches stuff if you look back at the Kavanaugh thing. But I mentioned this. I saw this over the weekend. And I know a lot of people don't like Maggie Haberman. And I don't need to sit here and explain having been busting my ass for a decade and a half going after the mainstream press. I don't have to explain my thoughts on her or legacy press. But here's one thing that I do want to point out. And there's a lot of leaks going on. I have a lot of friends who work actually in his inner circle, in POTUS Elect's inner circle. I have a lot of friends who work with various, I mean, when you've been in broadcasting and in political commentary for a long time, you meet a lot of different people. You develop associates. Some are associates, some are friends. Some are just people that you've met a couple of times. But I've heard a lot of chatter from a lot of people who are A, have no reason to make it up, and B, they're known for chatter. And I've been hearing this for like a couple of weeks now. The... The issue here is that there are some operatives that that are in Trump's orbit that are very keen to maintain influence. So there's there are people that always try to one up each other. And this was something that plagued his first administration. And by the way, because I have to set this as an aside, because the right has some of the right has adopted some of the personality traits of the left and that we can't have honest conversations about anything without people defecating their britches. You're not passing judgment on Trump, but what I'm telling you is what we've all seen, is what we've all observed. We saw this in the first administration. There were people who were leaking. You would have people try to – they were competing. They would try to get one up on each other, and it's like they would leak stories because they thought it would put them on a better track. to professionally ascend. And Trump's management style is somewhat loose. And I've known Trump personally for over a decade. His management style is very loose. And he likes people to work hard and people will compete against each other. And that's one of the things that's a management style that he has. You got to make sure you're controlling your circle. However, so these are some of these are operatives that are really trying to maintain influence because all this is this whole thing with Hegseth and DeSantis and all this stuff. And I know both of them. I like both of them. This is all a proxy war from influencers who are trying to maintain their influence in four years when Trump leaves office. This it's a proxy war for that. That's all this is. These are operatives who are trying to power jockey. That's exactly because those are the people who are talking. Those are the ones who are chattering. Someone leaked this to her. She didn't just Maggie Haberman might be a hack, but she didn't just like pull this out of her backside. There are people in his circle. Some of them are repeat offenders at leaking to legacy press. And we saw this happen in the first term. That his first term. You can't deny it. You don't have to. You don't have to dislike Trump to acknowledge this. You can love Trump and you can still acknowledge that there were people who leaked like hell in his first administration. It's always been a problem. And I think he's gotten rid of a lot of them, but I think some of them are still there because some of the stuff is getting leaked out. She's not the first person to say this. I have been hearing this chatter for three weeks. I've been hearing it circulate. It has been written in like mentioned in little Politico pieces here and there. And I knew people were building up to it. And I wanted to see what because sometimes you can tell who's leaking by the reporter that says this stuff on news. Right. So I'm watching this. She's not saying anything that I've not heard for like literally two and a half, three weeks. And it's not just me. Everyone who's in commentary, because we are nerds. We have to watch this for our living. Like you have a living. And then you also got to keep a roof over your head. You got to spend time with your family. You're busy. You don't want to play in the sandbox of this political petty, you know, palace intrigue. That's what I do. I got to do that. It's part of my job. And I enjoy it. So we've been all seeing this for a while and it and it built up. So she's not just making something up. I know people are mad at her. And granted, there's a million things you can be mad at her for. This ain't one of them. She's just repeating stuff that's been leaked out there for the past couple of weeks now because people thought. that it would be advantageous for them. There are people who are, and by proxy war, I mean, and I don't even know why we're focusing on this right now. It's the dumbest thing ever. But there are operatives who are new to the game of being an operative who think that they have to have their proxy battle for 28 now. They think that this is a proxy between Vance and DeSantis. And they think that if they have Hegseth and SecDef, then they can keep DeSantis out because SecDef is a very, very powerful role. I mean, I know vice president is the vice president, but SecDef actually has more weight and influence. It's the most powerful cabinet position you can have. From what I was told, the offer was made twice. It was on the table. And I think DeSantis wanted to finish out Florida and keep that commitment to Florida and finish out what he was elected to do. Not like it was a rejection or something like that of Trump. But that was just kind of, you know, and I get that there are people who want to do that, you know, and they think that, well, maybe later will be a better time. I get it. But. It doesn't make any sense for these operatives to play this game right now. And the reason I say that is because we got to hit the ground running in January. What have I been saying? All gas, no brakes. Trump has two years before midterms. Actually, if you want to be really frank about it or really precise, a year and a half before the midterm cycle kicks off. He has got to outmaneuver all of these bureaucrats that have been entrenched in D.C. for longer than he's been interested in politics. And to do that, he's got to have speed and he has to have everybody in their position ready to rock. They got to blast through confirmation hearings and get to it. Because in order to get things done, speed is his main weapon right now. That is his biggest advantage. The longer he waits, if he drags his feet, if things get bogged down in palace entry, guess what? The likelihood of accomplishing the agenda you voted for begins to dissipate. So that's why I get aggravated when I see these little petty wars like this. And that's what this is. It is an operative battle. It's people who are trying to shore up Their advantage in 28, maintain influence, and they're using this as a one-sided proxy war because I don't think that DeSantis is engaged in it. I think it's just these operatives that are having this proxy war. They're not doing their boss any favors. If you want to have a discussion about who's best facilitating his agenda, it's not by doing this. It's not by leaking to members of the press. And it's not by doing all this palace intrigue. He's been meeting with people to fill cabinet positions. He's been cementing policy. You have to have people in your inner circle that you can trust to not get involved in this stuff. He needs the assistance to hit the ground full speed, not with any of this stuff. And so I said, I'm like, all this reads, and this is how I view it too. It looks like his insiders are questioning his judgment and authority. If you're the inner circle and you're creating distracting headlines for the boss, you're not on the same team as the boss for that moment. You're questioning his authority and you're undermining what he's trying to do. These palace entry games do no favors for our side. You've got to secure these positions. Getting bogged down in all this is fruitless. Loose lips sink ships, right? What's one of the best movies that's ever been made, Kane? It's The Godfather. And do you guys remember what Vito Corleone... What he told Sonny when they were sitting at that meeting, right? Remember that? They're sitting at a meeting. He's talking to Salazzo. And Salazzo's wanting to get into the drugs game, right? And he brings this offer to Vito Corleone. Vito's like, hey, you know, drugs is not like other, you know, it's not like gambling. It's not like women. He goes, and he's talking about the corrupt cops on his payroll. He's like, you know, they'll look the other way for that, but drugs is something different. He's like, that's why I must decline. Because they wanted Vito Corleone's protection and access to his political capital. And he declined. So that kicked off this war. Salazzo, you know, they all fired back. And Sonny in this meeting voiced his opinion. And it was a little bit challenging to what Vito Corleone was saying. So afterwards, Vito looks at Sonny. And he gives him advice and he says, never, ever, ever tell anybody outside of the family what you're thinking again. Now, I'm not saying you got to be like the godfather, but I'm saying that's a rule that any political group should have. And that's the rule that Trump's insiders need to follow. You don't tell people outside your circle what you're thinking. You don't leak to the press like this. You don't speak against the family and the press. You got to run it like that. And if you're not running it like that, you're not running with the team. You're challenging your boss. You're questioning his authority and you're undermining his agenda. Stop it because that's not what we voted for. We don't vote for you. We voted for him. Some of these operatives need a little bit humility and they need to check themselves. They're getting a little too ahead on their skis here. We got a lot more on the way as we roll towards conclusion of this first hour. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, all family pharmacy has you covered. 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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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Female empowerment! Sick! I like it too! I think what I like about it is that I am having a very strongly negative reaction to it. Like I hate it. Which makes me think it must be brilliant.
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oh my gosh okay so that was Ketanji Brown Jackson Supreme Court Justice who said she wanted to be the first black Supreme Court Justice to be on Broadway I don't think there's been any Supreme Court Justice that's been on Broadway so you don't even need the black asterisk on it you don't even need that extra check box on it why I just I don't think I don't think you need to debase yourself it just seems now don't get mad at me Don't get mad at me because I'm sure you guys don't like Warhammer. So, you know, you don't like it. So I don't like theater. We can not like different things, right? It's okay. I don't like musicals. I hate musicals to death. Actually to death. If my hate could manifest as a fatal weapon, it would be. Because I cannot suspend my disbelief. It's very uncomfortable. I'm not a theater person. I do like orchestras and I like operas and things like that. I'm just not a theater person. Or as Kane notes, I love the theater of war. I like that more than like the theater theater, which also is its own war. And I blame, first off, I blame Nana because the very first thing she ever took me to was cats. Don't even know what the hell, I don't know what is happening. I still don't know. It was a bunch of furries and they sang sad songs. That's all I know. And then the second thing I was made to go to was rent. And that was about, and I said this 15 years ago, it was about AIDS and jazz hands. And then, yeah, so that's, I don't know. So that's where I just why is she doing this? Is it weird? Does it make you I mean, she's a Supreme Court justice. Does it feel like it's beneath the dignity of that illustrious position? Because I feel like it does. Right. It's weird. And was she overacting? Yes. Was it good? No. I don't know. Just doesn't do any favors for theater. Second hour on the way. Stick with us. We're partners over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service that is out there. Your money does not go towards... the things that you vote against. And that's incredibly important when you're talking about spending your money and everything that you need to be worried about in this Biden economy up until January, guys. But they have an Every Friday Matters special, which is ongoing. It's a limited time offer, though, so while supplies last, where you can get a free smartphone when you make the switch. And you can take advantage of this Every Friday Matters special. It's for a limited time. When you switch your service, you can get a brand new smartphone. And that's the part of their Every Friday Matters special. It's a great way to enjoy their nationwide coverage on all three major networks, support what matters, and work with their U.S.-based customer service team. So it's a free smartphone. Offers eligible only with promo code FRIDAY. Limited time offer until supplies run out. Terms and conditions apply. So make the switch today at patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT.
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But now we ordered an additional 200 miles of wall. It's very expensive. And now it's about double the price of what it would have been six years ago. And the administration is trying to sell it for $0.05 on the dollar, knowing that we're getting ready to put it up. And what they're doing is really an act. It's almost a criminal act. They know we're going to use it. If we don't have it, we're going to have to rebuild it. And it'll cost double what it cost years ago. And that's hundreds of millions of dollars because you're talking about a lot of a lot of wall.
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Well, and he's he's right. This is that story that we had from last week that we were discussing how Biden was they're selling off parts of the border wall that we bought and paid for for like nothing. What's to stop us from buying it again with our money? Is that a tax write-off? I feel like it should be. I feel like if you're doing anything for the betterment of the public with your own private money, it should be a tax write-off. Anything. Anything. That's what it feels like. We shouldn't have to pay it in the first place, but I digress. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you, top of the second hour here on Monday. That's the week before Christmas. It's Christmas Eve week. And we're here at the top of our second hour. Chats at Rumble. 347 is the simulcast of the radio program. You can listen to the radio program on a station terrestrially in your state. They... I mean, it's... Kind of weird that you would sell it. What would you even use that for, Cain? Could you scrap it? You could. I'm just trying to figure out why anybody would buy it.
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You'd probably scrap it for even more than just pennies on the dollar.
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Yeah. That's just so wasteful and dumb. We're just going to go right on this wall that you all voted for. You voted for the wall. You wanted it. I think this was the first I've heard Trump mention it in a while. So I'm glad he mentioned it because it's a no, we can't have this. I'm not going to be selling off the stuff that we already purchased. This is not a buyback program for walls. You know, if they're selling it off, they need to give us money. And I think we should be able to dictate the price. And then we should. But really, ultimately, we should just erect it down there. That's just pretty, pretty simple. The other big debacle for the Biden administration. Have you seen? Well, first off. You saw the story. This was I think it was last year when we first started talking about it. Excuse me. The EV, the electric delivery trucks that the administration wanted for like the post office. Right. And the post office, which they got more money, right, Cain? They got more money, and I don't know why, for what purpose. They got more money, and they've been running a deficit, and they needed, I don't know. I don't know what they spend their money on. So they had this proposal for electric vehicles for the post office. They were going to retrofit the entire fleet, right? And the postal service, it was all going to be electric delivery vehicles. And I'm sure you're going to be very shocked to learn that this has not been successful. I mean, they really haven't done anything. They promised all this stuff on EVs, like all the electric charging stations and everything else. But they've not done anything with it. And I'm wondering if the DEI stuff is to blame for this as much as it was for those charging stations. Remember? The charging station debacle was the restrictions on who they could work with, who the government could work with and who Department of Transportation and who they couldn't. So if you were going to be a contractor and you were going to accept a job building one of those charging stations, you had to be like X, like X percent of your company had to be minority. It had to be like what minority owned. You had to have a translator. You had to do parties in your community, like block parties and stuff. It was the dumbest stuff I've ever seen. So bad that even some of the leftists working in the Department of Transportation were discussing how stupid all of this was and how it was impeding their ability to actually get anything built because they only built like seven, I think. And so now there's this EV bus manufacturer that and pull this up. It's being called Biden's Solyndra. It's where Jennifer Granholm, she served on the board of this company, Proterra. Ever hear of it? Probably not. It's an EV transport company. Jennifer Granholm was on the board and they got a lot of taxpayer dollars. They were heavily subsidized, heavily subsidized. And He was pushing, you know, this retrofitting of all the post offices vehicles. Well, they waited for the close of trading last. This is back in what, August? They waited for the close of trading and they went under. And now they're, I mean, they are really going under. This whole thing is belly up. It's belly up. There hasn't been a lot of discussion about it. And this was one of the companies that Poot Booty Juice had celebrated. It was a company that Joe Biden had talked a lot about. It was, you know, I mean, it's they had. Oh, I said seven charge. I'm sorry. Eight EV charging stations. Yeah. And this was after they spent eight billion dollars on this. So that's a billion dollars per charging station, basically. Wow. Wow. And so part of their spending spree in the Inflation Reduction Act was to revamp these fleets. They wanted 60,000 new EV postal trucks. It was going to be called the NGDVs, the Next Generation Delivery Vehicle. And it was a defense contractor and they were going to do this stuff. And it was just like, you know, the Biden Solyndra. Now, everything that they touch just turns, as Trump said, to excrement. So they're not doing... They got... By the way, do you know they only have a dozen trucks. The cost per vehicle was like $80,000. And it was like, what, $32 million that they had set aside for these vehicles. Where is Doge? They can't start recommending stuff fast enough. Here's a story. I'm going to make sure I get this right. This was from... red state has this it says one of the sources from inside the company this is a legitimate quote quote this is the bottom line we don't know how to make a damn truck end quote but you got a big old contract to make ev trucks what so yeah how unbelievable is this It's another disaster from Biden. Switching gears, there's some breaking news that's coming out of Wisconsin, I believe. The Abundant Life School. Apparently there was a shooting that took place. The perpetrator is down, according to local media. It was Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin. The Madison police are investigating. It was reported just before 11 a.m. Multiple injuries. They've closed all the roads off and they think. One of the reports apparently from sources in the school, they were saying that it could have potentially been a student. I want to wait for law enforcement on that. I don't want to just speculate. But the perpetrator is down. And five apparently were shot, at least five people. That's all that's been confirmed at this point. No fatalities have been reported yet. But that's the latest. And they're going to be staging a press conference today. on that and that's at the abundant life christian school in madison wisconsin it's a school where obviously you have students all the way from kindergarten through the 12th grade i don't know what particular campus or if it's all one campus i i don't know they have 230 k through 12 students and it's a 28 acre campus uh it is uh a city it's a with a city church and a campus for kids uh but i was in madison wisconsin And so police were saying that it's still an active and ongoing investigation. So obviously everything's locked down. You're not going to get close to the school. They have everything blocked off. The media is staging at a nearby gas station. But apparently, you know, someone busted into the school and was able to open fire. And we don't have anything from law enforcement. I'm sure we will when they do stage press avail. I'm sure they're going to give information about the perpetrator, especially considering the perpetrator is down. So and I don't know what that means. I don't know if that means, you know, neutralized in a fatal way or non fatal way. But that's that's some of the latest and we'll bring more information as we get it. But as you know, with these things, because we've been on air and it's rare, but. You know, it's still rare, one too many. I'm not going to speculate. I'm not going to rush to be first on because a lot, 85% of those times it's wrong. And people like to share, they like to get out there and, you know, it's a turns into like a new cycle frenzy. So I only want to kind of discuss the stuff that's been confirmed. So I know that there have been a few things floating around about the perpetrator, but nothing's been confirmed by law enforcement. And I've even seen a couple of contradictory things to it. So when we get more information, I'll share that with you. But but the perpetrator. is uh is is they are saying that that person is down now i have not seen any uh local media law enforcement or u.s media discuss any kind of fatalities at this point so uh but we'll bring you all the latest with that but that's and i and i'm sure because as usually is the case unfortunately with these tragedies is you always have the left that wants to rush out there and start talking about how can we punish the law abiding and the innocent for the actions of a murderer. And I'm sure that there's they're not going to waste any time doing that with this. But like I said, we'll bring you any any information as we get it. But it is still I don't I don't I don't know, like I it's a Christian school. So you know where my thoughts immediately went. Because what happened the last time there was a shooting at a Christian school? It was targeted. It was a member of Trans-Tifa. And it was a woman who wanted to be a man, and she got into the school, and she started shooting children. And she should never have been armed. I don't know if that's the case here, but it just seems like in a lot of these incidents as of lately, it's been a Trans-Tifa member. So I'm saying just I'll bring you I'll bring you confirmed information as we get up. A police are going to be they're going to be staging a press conference. And maybe we'll get I would imagine we're going to learn a little bit more about the perpetrator when they do. So we're going to follow up with that. We have headlines on the way. Let me just tell you what else we have on the rundown. First off, we've got the settlement, the defamation settlement between ABC and. And Trump, because it was defamation. Now, the media is very upset. They're saying that Trump is weaponizing. He's going after the media already, except he wasn't. I mean, they said that he was a rapist and the actual court documentation. Lorraine's written tons about this, by the way, over at Substack. And the actual court documentation, they reject the rape aspect of it. So and we'll dive into that. It's a weird it's it's nuance that's important because that's why they got their liable. So and they they paid because they didn't want to go through discovery. They paid 15 million dollars so they could avoid discovery. So we'll dive into all of that here coming up as we move towards the bottom of this second hour discussion. Our partners who help make it so ready-wise, they're always ready, even if you're not. Free and fast shipping on most orders. This is premium survival food, and they have an array of product choices to meet every budget. They have an emergency one-month supply. They have a three-month emergency food supply. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So, I wanted to, there's two, I wanted to get this story. It's from the hill that we had last segment saved over. Millionaire boomers are less likely to share their wealth, according to a study, so it's their money. And who is you? 45% of wealthy boomers, they say, intend to enjoy their fortunes while alive. And they said that millennials plan to share their fortune. Good job for you. You can't take it when you kick the bucket. So what are you doing? Like, you know, who cares? Who cares? They said millionaires, millionaire millennials and Gen Xers are twice as more likely as boomers to prioritize sharing. I don't share. First off, I didn't even teach my kids to share. Do you know why? Because it is all about mental conditioning for socialism. And I think it's overrated. If you want to play with the toy that my kid has at the playground, buy your own damn toy for your kid. I don't care how mean it sounds. I don't do that. I'm all about kindness, but I don't believe in this forced idea of sharing. You don't have to share your wealth unless you want to, because forced charity is just resentment and action. And it is not anything biblical or anything or kind. That's all it is. So cry harder. Let's see here. Apple is taking heat over a like a false AI generated news alert. Luigi Mangione had shot. It was apparently like a fake thing that went out. I could have probably said that's false, you know, looking at it. He hired a powerhouse attorney. Nobody who makes the moves that he's made is going to, no. An open AI whistleblower was found dead. Dead in their San Francisco apartment. Yeah, he was blowing the whistle on AI and there was a ton of lawsuits over its business model. The 26-year-old, I'm sure it was just from old age, right? I'm sure it was just totally... I don't know. He accused OpenAI of violating U.S. copyright law while developing ChatGPT. All kinds of lawsuits were filed. The medical examiner has not released his cause of death, but they said, well, currently there's no evidence of foul play. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Apple plans thinner foldable iPhones to revive growth because they've been plateauing. That will happen when you release basically the same phone every other year, I got to say. I got the new phone. I don't think you need to get the new phone. If you got the 15, it's fine. The 16 does not any. I mean, the camera's not bad. I think the cameras have gotten worse. Am I the only person who thinks that? I think the photos actually are worse. Yeah, I do. I actually do. But they said that they're going to change and they want to revive growth because they've only done drip, drip incremental upgrades over the years. So now they want to introduce a super thin iPhone that you can fold in half. I might be interested. You know, I like gadgets. Let's see. Hawaii's population continues to decline as more people move to California. And you want to know why? Because the high taxes, the insane cost of living and the incessant Democrat leadership has ruined everything. That's why. That's why. And then they go to another state that has just the same thing. A passenger stood for a seven hour flight and a lot of people were talking about it. It was a seven hour flight and they said she wouldn't sit down. They said that she stood in the aisle for the entire flight. Maybe she had just, you know, had surgery or was uncomfortable or has deep vein thrombosis or something. She didn't bother anybody. She moved out of the way when she needed to. Stick with us. We've got more in store. As we move, our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at Black Rifle Coffee. The only coffee worth drinking because everything else is commie swill. Black Rifle Coffee has a new roast. Their Freedom Roast. It's what the founders would have drank. Would have drunk. Would have drank. They would have drank it. Totally. 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So the Freedom Roast, Black Rifle Coffee, taste the other Top Shelf Roast as well. Whatever you decide, though, you get 20% off with Code Dana. 20% off using Code Dana at BlackRifleCoffee.com. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. We're at the bottom of this second hour. You can listen coast to coast as well. So we're getting more. There was a very short briefing that was it was South Central Wisconsin. The police chief, Sean Barnes. said that was talking about the school shooting that just took place at a Christian school. We're getting more information about it now. It was a private Christian school, Abundant Life Christian in Madison, Wisconsin. And just shortly after, actually right before 11, it was 1057, from what the police chief said, that they responded to the reports of the shooting. They found multiple victims. And it was a juvenile who appeared to be responsible. That juvenile, who they say appears to be responsible, is deceased. Seven transported. Originally, they said three fatalities, including the killer. I never include the killer. So two fatalities. But then I read that apparently they had two other victims that just passed. So now five... total fatalities. If you include the killer, I would say four total fatalities and nothing reported about the type of weapon used, anything like that. The ATF is on scene and they're going to be probably after we're off air, they're going to have another press conference with more updates. They also have five wounded as well. So we don't really have any we don't know anything about the victims. We just we don't know how many were students or how many of them were staff. We don't know anything about that. But the police did say that. It looks as though the perpetrator, the killer, was a juvenile and that the perpetrator is deceased. So they are down. And I don't know if that's because they killed themselves or the police did it. We're going to get more information about that. But like I said, this was at Abundant Life Christian School, private Christian school. And they are... working still the whole area shut down and they're working still to make sure the area is contained etc so that's that's all we know at this point like I said we don't really know a whole lot more but that's that is what we what we do know at this point and the and again and looking at some of this that's in Wisconsin it was about what 1057 I think has been police so that they were called And they have four fatalities, five if you include the killer, and they have five injured as well. That's number seven now. Is it now seven? Yeah. Okay. So now it's... Seven injured now. So the the wounded is the wounded being reported. They said up to 12 may have been injured, but they're now confirming police are confirming that there were seven. Now, it's a smaller school, but it's kindergarten through 12th grade that attend the school. And so there are police are saying that. And again, four killed. The killer is not included in that number. So that's why I don't say five, because I don't include the killer. So four, we only include innocent victims. So four fatalities, four innocents. And that is multiple injuries. And they said that they confirmed, again, they confirmed the injuries. I think of what, what did you say, seven now? Seven injuries? On the roads are still all blocked off. And we don't know anything about the perpetrator. We don't know anything about the weapon used. Nothing, nothing about that. And, you know, as we get it from as we get it confirmed, we'll share it with you. But I would imagine that we won't know anything else about it until I think everything else is going to be speculation until you get confirmation from law enforcement. And that press conference isn't expected to happen until I think it's two thirty central. So it'll be after we're off air. But very I mean, it's incredibly I mean, it's just horrifying. It's absolutely horrifying. We don't know anything about the perpetrator, but a juvenile in possession. So I'm already hearing I'm already thinking that this is, you know, obviously, depending on I don't know what the type of weapon used was. But, you know, if they were a juvenile, I don't know what grade they were in. If it was a teenager, if it was an under 18, that might be. Might be someone who is prohibited to possess, depending on some of the other factors. So we'll get that information to you as we get it. And I want to make sure that it's confirmed information and not just speculation. So we'll have all of that for you. But that was Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin. It's incredibly unfortunate. Loss of life is always incredibly unfortunate. Speaking of loss of life and several other things, I wanted to touch on this audio. that I... It's the Raphael Warnock interview. This interview that Raphael Warnock gave, which was... pretty wild. He was speaking about abortion. Now, if you remember, Raphael Warnock has always been very, very far left, right? Very, very far left. A huge time, a huge abortion supporter. And he had given this interview where he said he supports abortion because it's what Jesus would have done. I put this up on Facebook and a lot of you lost your minds deservedly. He was talking with MSNBC and he was on her program this past week and he's – and now we know that he's further on the left because – or all the – I mean we know where he stands on abortion and we know that he's – And been supportive of it up till the moment of birth because he was the guy who sponsored that Senate bill that was going to codify a taxpayer funded abortion on demand up until the moment of birth. And they were they slipped it or he he sponsored this provision. They were slipping it into the really weird name Women's Protection Act, which was just goofy. Yeah. It had nothing to do about protecting women. And he defended it. And this was during that, when he was facing off against, he was fighting for the seat, fighting for the Senate seat. And he was going up against Herschel Walker. And remember that whole thing? And his fight with Herschel Walker on that? So he was asked about this. I want you to listen to this audio. This was him talking to Joy Reid. And this is how he justifies it. Remember, he calls himself a quote-unquote reverend. Listen.
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It's one of the things that's on the ballot. And, you know, I get a lot of pushback from people who seem to think that they own the interpretation of the gospel. But I've been studying the scriptures my whole life. I'm committed to the faith. And as a pastor, I have a profound reverence for life. And as a pastor and a person of faith, I have a deep respect for choice. And I still think, as I've said time and time again, that a patient's room is too small and cramped a space for a woman, her doctor, and the United States government. But if we care about life, you know, black women are dying three to four times the rate of white women in childbirth as a result of childbirth and so if you care about life we ought to find a way that's a place where government could show up yeah and address the obvious bias in our health care system it's what jesus would do i think it's exactly what jesus uh senator and reverend wow wow wow first off i don't know where he gets that weird
SPEAKER 17 :
I keep hearing that, that statistic, and I've seen it, you know, a number of different entities try to debunk it or put context on it. What he just said there is one of the most demonic things I think I've ever heard. Now, again, his position on abortion, I'm not exaggerating when I say up till the moment of birth. The language of the proposal that he had sponsored... was just that up until, I mean, quite literally as the baby is being delivered through the birth canal. That's demonic. Because you don't need you should have made up your damn mind. First off, if you're an abortion supporter and you like to say safe and rare, shouldn't you made your mind up like, I don't know, a heck of a lot earlier? Actually, the question is, shouldn't you made your mind up when you were looking at what kind of prophylactic to use or what kind of birth control pill to use or what kind of million other things that you have at your disposal that you could have used or when you just engaged in the act anyway? So I'm not exaggerating when I say that he I mean, he believes in murder, murder. This is not just abortion. This is murder, murder, murder. Abortion is murder. But this is like the baby's alive and here on Earth. Let's kill it. Don't want to decide I didn't want it. That's how far this and every Democrat senator. Agreed with it. They were all co-sponsoring it. So that's why I say the party has gotten so extreme on this. That's not just I'm not exaggerating. That's pretty extreme. And it's incredibly extreme. When you look at Democrat voters, they actually don't support it after 15 weeks. They don't support abortion after 15 weeks. So even by Democrat measures, that's super extreme for the left. But that's where every Democrat senator was. Not to his point that somehow it's what Jesus would have done. That's what Reid said. And Warnock goes, yeah, I think it's exactly what Jesus did. That's literally the opposite of what Jesus had said to do. In your womb, I knew you. Do not murder. I mean, it's pretty clear. And I just found that absolutely reprehensible. Even the devil can quote scripture. And the fact that Raphael Warnock can label himself a reverend is proof of that. The fact that he can just do this 30,000 foot, I'm going to cherry pick what I want to cite out of the Bible and not provide any context or just pretend that it affirms my worldview. It's demonic. And there is a great warning, biblically, against people like Raphael Warnock, who are cosplaying as shepherds of the flock and misleading people, leading them astray. The Bible is very clear all throughout the New Testament. Have a millstone hang around your neck and thrown into the sea, the depths of the sea. If you cause one of these little ones to stumble, there were, he wasn't just talking about children. He was talking about people new in faith. People were coming to Jesus. Wow. And there is a higher, there's a serious level of accountability for people in positions of shepherding, a high level of accountability and a high penalty for it when you abuse your power. and you mislead people. And that's exactly, man, there is not anything rude or hateful that I could say about Raphael Warnock that is even going to compare to the penalty that awaits him upon his death. Because the good Lord above is that there, it's pretty clear. I guess he missed that part of scripture. You know, I guess he missed that part of scripture. Maybe it was when he was hitting on his wife or something. I don't know, beating on her. I don't know. Maybe he was He just didn't have time to read it. We have a Florida man on the way as well. Some of the other things we're going to be touching on just to just to keep you updated as to what else is on the table. Why you don't hate the press enough. A Z-list actress masquerading as a reporter flexes for clicks about releasing a notorious torturer in Syria. We're going to discuss that. We're also going to get into this issue. this piece. Kamala Harris is considering another run for elected office. Why? I don't. Really? So we got to talk about that. Also, Ireland and Israel. Israel is closing its embassy in Ireland. And there are a lot of people apparently that are like I saw Matt Gates tweet something and I was like this. Sorry, but this is ignorant of the history of Ireland and where they have stood on this issue for a couple of generations now. So we need to have a little quick history lesson on that. We got a lot of stuff to hit.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 17 :
Florida Man exposes himself in public after asking a woman to take his picture. A 36-year-old illegal... alien from Guatemala, he came into the country illegally, was arrested for the second time for the same crime. He goes up to women says, Can you take my picture? And if they're nice and say yes, then he whips out his male copulatory organ. So a Florida woman and her 11 year old daughter, they were in Martin County. They were taking pictures of holiday decorations, the Christmas lights and everything. And a man asked to have his picture taken using his cell phone. And like he was going to get pictures of himself with the lights. And she was nice and said she would do it. And then... Once she took one photo and then he just gestured below his waist to get her to look down. And when she did, everything was out and out in the wind. And yeah, so she immediately notified law enforcement. He was arrested before that. exposed because he exposed himself. And he apparently I mean, this is he had asked two women to take his picture literally almost a year to the day and did the exact same thing. So ICE, I mean, Homeland Security Investigations, they put a detainer on him. He was going to be charged with illegal reentry after this other case concludes. But oh, my gosh. And they think that there's probably more victims. that this guy has. That's so weird. Why are people like that? I mean, just stop it. Stop being weird little perverts. Weird. A Lyft passenger was arrested after a shocked driver found him naked in the back seat. The suspect told police that he, quote, got a little naked after he was overcome with a, quote, feeling. Oh, gross. 48-year-old passenger, excuse me, who was not named. He was picked up in Lakeland near Tampa and the driver heard a strange noise from the backseat. He was shocked to find that the passenger had taken off all his clothes and he immediately told him to stop. He contacted the police. and reported that Lyft actually, I guess you can notify Lyft with a button, you know, like if you're a driver. They contacted police, said one of their drivers was in a very uncomfortable situation, and the suspect said, yeah, he only got a little naked, and that was, you know, that's all, no big deal. So he was charged with exposure of sexual organs, and he was taken into custody. What is up? Is it a full moon? What was happening? Good night. Let's see this. Oh, no. Oh, here's one. This one may be one for the books. A meth-smoking Florida man attacked a mattress in a jealous rage. Fort Walton Beach. A Florida man used a bedpost to attack a mattress because he thought it was a man hiding. The Okaloosa County Sheriff's Office, they reported that 37-year-old Felipe Oquendo was saying that he thought that his girlfriend was cheating on him, and he thought the mattress was a man, and so he tried to beat it to death. He literally ripped off a bedpost and then locked the bedroom door. She was able to escape, and then he beat the mattress. Good Lord. And then he later admitted to having smoked meth. Oh. Obviously. Yeah. Stick with us. Our third hour is on the way. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of this third hour here on Monday. And you can obviously you're listening to the radio program in some capacity. Channel 347, the simulcast, DirecTV, as well as on X, the chats at Rumble. We're following this ongoing story of the shooting at the Abundant Life. Christian school in Madison, Wisconsin. And already there are, I mean, I see, we don't even have all the facts in. And I'm, you know, I'm stunned at, I mean, always stunned. It never stops being stunning the way that the left rushes to politicize this stuff. You already had the Giffords organization out there saying school shootings should not be common. Well, they're not common. And, you know, the amazing thing is that First off, if it's a juvenile, then how did the juvenile get possession of a firearm anyway? Number one, they can't just go out and purchase one. So they're already barred from legal carry. Number two, it's been for 30 plus years now. Schools are gun free zones. You can't bring a gun on school grounds. You can't. I mean, I don't know why we have these anti-gun lobbyists out there that try to insist otherwise. But for 30 plus years, that has never been that's never been the case. It's their gun free zones. So immediately they're out there trying to politicize all of this. But this school was a gun free zone because the. The. I mean, they're all gun free zones, all of them, all of them. And then I don't know. I just I we need to get more information about the maybe the motive. Maybe we can find out what even they don't even know if it was a handgun or a rifle. They don't know. Police have not released those that information. They've not released those details. But the problem is, is it is another gun free zone? I don't know if Abundant Life School has an SRO program. I don't know if they allow teachers who prove capable and who are willing to carry carry. I don't know if that's something that's allowed. These are all things that we have no idea. No idea. We know nothing about it, nothing about any of it. But yet we already have lawmakers out here trying to politicize it. I'm just not quite sure how you can propose solutions when you don't even know exactly the full scope of what the issue. I mean, obviously, murder is also illegal, but instead of nobody again, mental health. How was this? If this was a juvenile, what what led this? this juvenile to this position of killing people at their school at a christian school could it be trans tifa because the last time there was a shooting at a christian school you had it was the issue of trans tifa so i'm just wondering there's a lot of information here and marquis had said quote there should be no school shootings i'm heartbroken we must act now to end gun violence again what law would have been, what law would you have passed to prevent this? They've been banned on school grounds for 30 plus years. Maybe we could ask questions as to how did this juvenile get a firearm? What led to this juvenile getting a firearm? Also, maybe something, but no, they're not going to bring any of that up. Heaven forbid. Gun-free zones are magnets, as my friend John Lott has said, for this murderous criminality. I mean, they're magnets for it. He noted, too, in the thousands of schools where teachers are permitted to carry, no one has been wounded or killed in an attack during school hours. Only kids. Where the schools make no exceptions to federal law. By the way, that's like a you have to go through a whole program and you have to work with law enforcement and you have to be like specially trained and all that stuff. If you're a faculty member carrying at school. This has only happened where there's been a complete ban on any kind of use of lethal force in defense of the children there. And they've never I mean, the the anti-gun lobbyists have always said, well, if you're going to allow teachers to carry, they're going to get stolen. And nothing has ever come to light that supports that claim that has never materialized into something that's real. And no one wants to force teachers to carry. I don't want a teacher who doesn't want to carry to carry. You know, at my kid's school, there were a lot of, you don't know who's armed, but a lot of people are armed. And they have the double locking doors and all that. That's the other thing. How was this individual able to get a weapon in school? What was happening in the student's home life that the parents were unaware that the student was able to get something, a weapon into the school? They had no idea. No idea. So, when you create a gun-free zone, what you're doing is you're advertising a place where someone with murderous intent is not going to receive any kind of strong resistance. That's why gun-free zones are targeted. It is insane that this has to be explained to anybody, but, you know, anti-gun lobbyists. I mean, remember, in the previous... tragic cases, there have been numerous instances where certain areas or certain prime targets were abandoned because they were deemed to be too hard, too hard of a target for a killer. And so they went somewhere else where they knew there would be less resistance. And when you go into a gun-free zone and you're a murderer and you have the intent to kill, you have guaranteed that you are the only person that has the means to to lethal force. You're the only person. I mean, it's, in fact, one of the things that Lott has noted is that the Covenant School or the perpetrator of the 2022 supermarket shooting that was in Buffalo, that killer wrote in his manifesto verbatim this sentence, quote, areas where CCW permits are outlawed or prohibited may be good areas of attack, end quote. But see, nobody in the press discusses this. Because it's inconvenient to their narrative that they need to peddle in order to punish the innocent and make you a greater target in the face of evil. I mean, I don't like gun-free zones. Don't like them. And I think you need to be able to have access to lethal force. Especially when you're talking about protecting the lives of your children. Why is it that anti-gun lobbyists, they're willing to use lethal force for other things. They're willing to drone people overseas. But oh my gosh, if you've got someone looking to shoot up a kindergarten classroom, heaven forbid they have anyone there that uses lethal force to resist that. I do not understand that concept. So it doesn't matter what laws you pass. This person, if what has said that they were a juvenile, if they were a student and they were under the age of 18, they're not going to be able to buy anything anyway. What are you talking about? They're going to be able to run and you can't take it to school anyway. That's already a law. You can't make the law more illegal or doesn't work. Gun-free zones are what people who hate the innocent create. And they give them a false sense of security. Just for instance, I try to avoid and I will only go to a gun-free zone if I absolutely have to for work. Otherwise, I don't go. Like for instance, a restaurant that I hate, the Cheesecake Factory. I hate the Cheesecake Factory. I do. Their portions are comically huge. The menu is too big. I have a very John Taffer approach to restaurants. I worked in food service all going through college. You know, I had grandparents that ran a tavern. Are you a fan of the Cheesecake Factory, Kane? I think there's too much. There's too much.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a novel, that damn menu.
SPEAKER 17 :
The menu is like a Harry Potter book. It's like 30 pages. It's ridiculous. You don't need that many food items. Rotate it out. You know what I'm saying? Keep it fresh. But they're a gun-free zone. They're in my town. And I never liked going there anyway. I had a kid that liked going there because, obviously, cheesecake. So I walked up to the doors one day and saw they had fresh new signage. And in Texas, you have to post your signage. They were so petty how they did this. I love it. they're like, if you're going to demand that no one carry on your premises and as a private property owner, you have that right. We're going to make it super ridiculous, the signage. And I think it's funny because you have to have English and Spanish and it has to be a certain type of font, no smaller than a certain type of size. It has to be posted in a very specific location. It has to be posted this way. It can have this on it. It can't have this on it. And anything else is not legal signage. Well, they went to the effort of putting up legal signage. And I just reached out to grab the door. I saw that sign. I dropped my hand down. Ask their manager. We're like, well, so what is your security here? They go, what do you mean? Like, well, OK, you're what? You're the manager. We had to go above the manager because it's very curious. And apparently it was their corporate office. It's their policy. I'm like, OK, well, what's your security then? What do you mean? What's our security? Seriously? Do you have armed security then if you're demanding that patrons enter your establishment? And by the way, if you were going to go into that restaurant, say you're going there for dinner at night, you have to park in a dark parking lot that honestly I think needs more lighting and walk, you know, a block to get to it. And it's, you know, at the back end of the town. So, you know, there's not a lot happening back there. If I was going to attack someone, I would attack them there completely. Can't agree since he knows exactly what I'm talking about. You know where this one is. And they're like, yeah, we don't have armed security. So they don't have any security, but they don't want you to be able to protect yourself. So we don't eat there. I do not eat at Cheesecake Factory. I haven't been into a Cheesecake Factory at least eight years, probably longer. It's been a long time. I see it and I don't go in. But I do make a show of it. I'm not going to lie. I'm not drama, but I can be on this issue because I'll act like I'm opening the door. And then if I see the sign, like, oh, I can't go in here. Everyone's defenseless. I don't want to be a sitting duck. Heaven forbid that someone with less training than I have and someone who knows less about gun law than I do make up the policies in order to keep your patrons sitting ducks. You know, they know more than me, clearly. So I don't go there. Just, you know, it's just, it's too, I don't want anyone's product or food enough to risk my life. And you might think that that's, Dana, you're being dramatic. I had someone try to break into my house and kill me. They flew halfway across the country because they hated me. So yeah, I think I do. Absolutely. Absolutely. And maybe I really envy the luxury that some of these anti-gun lobbyists have, the luxury of never having to worry about their safety and security because they live in an ivory tower or never having to worry about it because they outsource it to their security, which I've always thought was fascinating. That is one of the most bigoted things I've ever seen anybody do. You're an anti-gun person, but you're fine with allowing someone else to take the bullet for you. You hire security, someone else to do the work of defending yourself. I find that to be grotesque. You're an anti-gun, but you're really not. You're just anti-poor people being able to defend themselves. That's what it is.
SPEAKER 12 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, so first up, now they're saying that cooking oil is fueling colon cancer in young Americans. Cooking oil.
SPEAKER 12 :
Seed oil.
SPEAKER 17 :
Cooking oil. identified seed oils are culprits behind colon cancer. But how long has this been in grocery stores? How long could you go and get seed oils in the supermarket, Kane?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, vegetable oils and seed oils for decades.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, a really long time. So, I mean, I just use like olive oil or tallow or ghee. Which is great. There's nothing wrong with it. Let's see. A man... Good heavens. A man tells police that he's a professional drinker, Othifer, following a multi-vehicle crash. This is in Colorado. He was caught on body camera saying, I'm a professional drinker. And he said he probably had 10 drinks.
SPEAKER 12 :
Did he get paid for that?
SPEAKER 17 :
And then at the conversation, he goes, okay, I'm going to tell you right now, I'm a professional drinker. So, all right. And the officer goes, I gotcha. Like, I mean, he had a blood alcohol content of 0.326. He's made of liquor.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it's pretty, pretty crazy. Oh my gosh. How do you know he's walking?
SPEAKER 17 :
A woman was charged after allegedly crashing into ice on Lake Winnisquam. I'm pretty sure if I said that wrong, somebody will tell me. It was in New Hampshire. She was driving under the influence. Man, this is just screaming some Chappaquiddick kind of stuff, isn't it? It's got Kennedy all over it. It happened near, it was a lake in Lake Winnisquam. The woman escaped through the car window, crawled across the ice, but her blood alcohol concentration was, they said, a little above the legal limit. So that's her. Apparently it's going to go to trial in February, her case. Let's see another. A mother receives an eviction notice after waking up from a coma caused by a stroke. So in Washington State, she lives at the Wandering Creek Apartments. She suffered a stroke. It left her in a coma in a hospital for a month. When she awoke, she had received an eviction notice. She has limited use of her body. She has no idea how she's going to care for her. you know, moving and her two sons who are 12 and seven. She's gone to physical therapy twice a week. Her disability prevents her from finding work to help pay for rent. And she said that she's always been a hard worker. She was like, she just can't. She struggles to like cook and clean and do things like what she wants to do. Her mother and aunt are trying to help her. And the help, you know, they have a long waiting list. But that's just horrible. They have a GoFundMe established to help support her. But, man, it would be nice if the landlord is financially able to maybe just assist a little bit. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe they have their reasons. I don't know. But horrible story all around. Stick with us.
SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you here at the bottom of this third hour. And we've covered a lot of ground in this somewhat busy news day. Now, the week before Christmas, so it's good to be with you. You can listen across the country, Channel 347, DirecTV, also at X and Z. Rumble where the chat happens. Joining us now, our very good friend, our expert friend, and he's been involved in two presidential administrations. So he knows his stuff. Senior research fellow for China, Nat Sec Issues at Heritage. And you can follow him on X at Yates Coms. He joins us now. First up, I got to ask you about the drones. I figured, you know, you've been, you know, you've probably seen some, you know, in politics and in government, you've probably seen some spooky stuff. I'm like, you know, been aware of some of that, you know, is this, are these all Chinese and Iranian drones or are these aliens? I just feel like the government's response is so cagey. I'm kind of hoping for aliens, but also it just seems like it's probably going to be China or Iran, or is it a drone off? Are they doing something and it's our military using drones as a way to like push back? I just am curious as to your thoughts on this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Dana, for someone who is my age, it was kind of fun for everyone to have an X-Files reboot over the last few days, just assuming that the truth is out there and that there's a government program going on. Now, when it comes to drones and where they're made, there really isn't a lot of mystery in that. The primary manufacturing platform for drones these days is China. And when it comes to chips, hardware, the drones, all of that, a lot of that is China, China, China. And especially if you're a cost efficient shopper, you're probably buying from China. So whether you're government or private sector, it's a lot of work to try to get China out of that supply chain. Elise Stefanik, who's been nominated to be our ambassador to the United Nations, actually ran a bill that was trying to get exactly that, to get the CCP out of our drone supply chains. So it's really a topic that matters a lot, but it'll come as a shock to your audience that for the four years of the Biden administration, not a lot's been done to clean up that supply chain. And to make matters worse, we have a lot of questionable people coming into our country. Some of them are military age and unaccompanied by family and might be drone operators for all we know. The only thing we know for sure is that Secretary Mayorkas definitely didn't tell us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Because he sort of said, this isn't a government op and there is an investigation, but there's no foreign involvement. And it's just not possible to hold those three balls in the air without something else in the juggle.
SPEAKER 17 :
Ooh, that's a very good point. This is so creepy. We're talking with our good friend Stephen Yates, who has better insight on this than most people. It kind of worries me to think that it could be an Iranian-Chinese sort of effort to do what? I don't know, as like a test run to see how far in the interior they could get? I mean, I don't know if that's the... But the fact that there doesn't seem to be... A swarm. A swarm. Yeah, it's like a murder for a bunch of crows. So, you know, a swarm of them coming in from the Atlantic into New Jersey. One of the creepiest things I've ever seen. That bothers me. So how serious is this? Is this like some kind of like war game? Are they testing it out? Because it can't be ours.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, so I strongly suspect it is ours. And I strongly suspect that we have a government with no one meaningfully in charge of the top coordinating across different stovepipes. It would not shock me at all to know that the children running with scissors in the White House don't know what other parts of our government are doing. The fact that they sort of seem to cut off at a set time at night, there's nothing about the Iranian terror network that would suggest to me that they would want to to do something like that. I don't know if the Chinese like take a break to take a nap to continue their spy operations at a set time every day. But there's just so much odd going on in this that I sort of suspect it is something going on in the US. But the problem is drones do present a massive significant security problem. And that what our government is telling us from the very top our airspace isn't safe and is not secured by the people under the constitution whose first job it is to do exactly that uh so if you take the highest priority issue to me because what happened to my family and you add fentanyl into drone swarms that no one is in charge of supposedly and you have, say, a highly attended outdoor event, that is a recipe for terror and panic and devastation, the likes of which we haven't seen on the continental United States since 9-11 at the very least. I don't like that. I would much rather have someone I trust in charge. We just don't have that right now. So no matter who's behind this, Obviously, we have to get through this next 30 plus days to get people that we might have a shot at believing telling us, friend or foe, are you keeping us safe or not? Is this an iron dome for the United States in the making? If so, just tell us.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's a wow. An iron dome for the United States. That's actually very. Oh, that's very interesting to think that that we could be in that kind of same situation. We're talking with our good friend Stephen Yates at Yates comes on X. I was looking at this. Trump invited Xi Jinping to his inauguration. Is that like a power move? I'm kind of looking at it like it might be.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I have to say I throw up a little bit every time I hear this idea.
SPEAKER 17 :
But, you know, you love the guy who hates Winnie the Pooh.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, well, you know how in DC and some other cities, there's a giant inflatable rat that labor protesters put out. My gosh, yeah, it's my favorite. If there was a giant inflatable poo that was on the National Mall and Xi Jinping or his particular delegates were forced to be proximate to that, then I'm cool with floating this idea. I just don't think Xi Jinping is gonna come for something like this. So it is a power move to say, we wanna talk, I wanna hold you accountable on fentanyl and COVID and stiffing me on the phase one trade agreement, but you're a big country, we wanna lower tensions and wanna push you back from this aggression, but let's work something out for peace and prosperity. All that fun stuff. I get the logic. I don't like the idea of throwing these invites out to the inauguration. I think the inauguration day is one for ceremony, but also rocking and rolling on some things here at home. I think the Trump team is prepared for that. We might have a world record of executive orders that undo the badness of the Biden four years and maybe throw in some deregulation and some goodness to do big things for America. But I say make a make Inauguration Day all about American revival and renewal and let the foreigners come a little bit later. But that's just me. No one asked. And the man did win by a lot. He can do what he wants with this. But I'm not a fan of the the Chinese cheese coming to the mall on Inauguration Day.
SPEAKER 17 :
If Trump had a giant inflatable pooh bear, though.
SPEAKER 06 :
You might like that. Then I'd persuade it. This is the antidote to all things crazy by making the world bad guys have to be crazy to show up. You know, if they stay at a particular hotel, that Pooh Bear needs to be outside that hotel, just like the rats outside the other labor protests.
SPEAKER 17 :
And they could have people with free Jimmy Lai signs out there as well. I mean, it does seem like if you know if you're going to invite I don't know if he's invited Keir Starmer or anybody British government, but that might be because, you know, Jimmy Lai is a British citizen. I mean, couldn't there be some kind of, well, you come and then maybe we can make the case like for I mean, is that something that would be in the cards for Trump to do during inauguration? Is that like a weird proposition?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, frankly, it's something that in free America with freedom of speech and assembly, you'd like to think that a First Amendment committed revival would say, you know what? This isn't the president's doing. But you know what, Mr. Xi? In our country, yeah, I'll give you some courtesy to come and chat and all that. But my people are going to be able to free, are going to be free to peaceably express their views. And guess what? You need to meet America. Because you freaking poisoned America over the last few years. You need to meet America. And I'd be cool with that. But I'm a little harder edge on these things than the average diplomat, perhaps.
SPEAKER 17 :
Last question for you as we roll into the new year. We're not going to see you again until the new year. So we hope you have a wonderful Christmas, you and your bride. But I wanted to kind of... looking towards January, because I know the tone of things are already changing, especially we saw it when Trump was over at the Notre Dame, the reopening of that after being rebuilt after the fires and the way that world leaders reacted. We've talked about Europe, but what are you... going to be watching for as his team moves from transition to occupying the White House and we have our new Congress seated? What are you going to be watching for in the Pacific with China, with maybe perhaps their relationship with Iran or any overtures towards the U.S.? Like what is on your radar? What are you going to be looking at in January?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, there's a lot that's China, but there's also a lot around China that matters. It's really, really important that one of the richest people in Japan, who was CEO of SoftBank, came to Mar-a-Lago and promised to invest $100 billion in America. And on camera, Trump negotiated and promised to make it $200 billion. And so the idea that we're a magnet for investment, that we are a place that people want to put their money to grow an economy. I just look for it out of the blocks, deregulate, open up federal lands for the resources the creator blessed us with to allow us to have the roughest, toughest engine of growth. uh that is the envy of the world i mean that's basically what the president has promised uh and i think it is doable that sets the table for renegotiation with china and others but japan wants to be a part of it hopefully their government stabilizes this korean political madness has to settle down if we're going to have a reliable ally there i hope it does uh but With China, I expect that they're going to need to focus on tariffs and economic negotiations right out of the blocks. And we'll see what they get by way of a visit or early talks with the president. But I think that's where it's going to start out. Rev up America, engage China and other leaders, and let's push what this new era can deliver for us.
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Got a lot to look forward to. Stephen Yates, as always, we're so grateful to you that you give us so much of your time and your talent and your expertise on all of these issues. And you really help set the perspective. And you've been such a treasure for all of us here and for our audience. So we're really grateful to you and wishing you the best Christmas and the happiest New Year. So thank you so much. God bless you and your family.
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All right, back at you, Dana, and to the audience, Michelle and I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a glorious 2025.
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Amen to that. Good to see you, my friend. Travel safe. We'll talk again. Take care. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. I was I saw this one of these stories that over the weekend that had to do with Ireland and the Israeli embassy. They're closing their embassy in Ireland due to what they say are extreme anti-Israel policies of the Irish government. And that I mean, it's not entirely true. surprising to see that. But what I thought was funny, because I saw Matt Gaetz and a couple other people tweet something out similar to this, where they were saying that it was due to the immigration in Ireland that made it so, like unchecked immigration ruins nations. Well, that's a true statement. But an immigration is a problem, illegal immigration and the influx of people from where you have culturally incompatible You know, I mean, you can't, like, beat people in the street if they're walking around unveiled. You can't, you know, women have rights, things like that. But in Ireland, they kind of have a history of this. I mean, it's not always been the best of relations. I mean, this is just kind of, they've dealt with anti-Semitism in Ireland. And obviously, you know, you have the... world war ii the the neutral the neutrality stance that they had they even sent i think even their government sent like condolences after hitler offed himself uh in at the end of world war ii i think they sent condolences to germany they're like the only country that actually did that and they did not want to accept refugees fleeing during World War II. Every other nation was taking in legitimate refugees, not like what you see happening at our southern border. There have been some issues with us for quite some time. It's pretty historical. They were... I mean, there's... It's a lot. So it's not just this unmitigated immigration. It's a problem that predates this issue for Europe and has been several generations now in Ireland where it's been like this. So I think to say that it's just immigration kind of ignores the historical problem they've had and the fraught relationship that they've had with Israel this entire time. So I just wanted to point that out because I saw a lot of discussion about it. I'm like, well... That's not actually historically accurate. I mean, yes, immigration, there is a problem, but they have had this issue because they've always supported Gaza and I mean, they've been friendly towards Hamas. They've supported, you know, everything that Gaza has demanded. So it's been a weird they've always had a weird relationship with Israel. And not wanting to accept those refugees in World War II. And then, you know, it's more than just the situation with immigration. We'll talk about it some more in depth tomorrow. We're out of time today. Today in stupidity came.
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All right. Apparently at the Willard Intercontinental Hotel, the DNC was having their holiday reception this morning. Biden was speaking. And apparently Biden thinks he's leaving tomorrow. The best economy to Trump. Listen to this.
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The one thing I've always believed about public service, especially about the presidency, is the importance of asking yourself, have we left the country better in shape than we found it? No. Today, I can say with every fiber of my being, with all my heart, the answer to that question is a resounding yes.
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No, it isn't. And you may need to supplement some fiber. I think about it.
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I'm stunned. OK, there you go.
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Yeah. All right. That's our president. He's still president, right? Is he still?
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Yeah. I mean, you know.
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OK.
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Entitled.
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Anyway, he is. Yeah. Checking.
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That does it for us today, folks. We're going to get set up for the rest of the year with this week. And make sure you go sign up over at Substack. Chapter and verse. Always stuff that comes out regularly on the newsletter. Find us at YouTube, Facebook. Like and subscribe. Have a great night. Back with you tomorrow.
In this intriguing episode of Shooting the Breeze, Karen Murray dives into a snowy yet bustling holiday season, sprinkled with reflections on Franktown Firearms’ offerings and the anticipation of long-awaited family traditions. Karen unravels the mystery of House Bill 1174, ensuring listeners stay informed about upcoming legal changes without unnecessary confusion. Listeners are also treated to lively debates on daylight savings time, evaluating its historical background and impacts on health. The conversation shifts to the controversial realm of gender-affirming care and the role of government and healthcare professionals in these sensitive matters. With a passionate narrative, Karen challenges the current understanding of youth gender medicine, urging the necessity of thorough mental evaluations before life-altering decisions. Additionally, Karen discusses the swirling theories around drones sighted in New Jersey and introspects on the latest COVID-19 vaccine reports, questioning the intertwining of politics and health. The episode wraps up with a heartfelt thank you and a gentle reminder of Franktown Firearms' valuable services, building a bridge between community and confidence.
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Welcome to Shooting the Breeze, brought to you by the team at Franktown Firearms, a family-owned, family-friendly shooting range in Franktown, Colorado. Franktown Firearms offers practical, defensive training, as well as an impressive selection of firearms at the lowest tax rate, so you can develop confidence with your firearm. The team at Franktown Firearms believes the only difference between a beginner and an expert is practice. so they equip you to keep yourself and your family safe in a welcoming atmosphere. And now, here are your hosts of Shooting the Breeze.
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Hello, hello, hello. Happy Monday, everyone. It is Monday, and we are getting so close to Christmas, and oh my gosh, I'm not ready. Are you guys ready? Well, I'm kind of ready. I'm going to spend my evening wrapping presents tonight, I can tell you that. Yeah, it's crazy times. So fun, though. So welcome to Shooting the Breeze, today brought to you by Franktown Firearms. My name is Karen Murray, and I'm the lead instructor at Franktown Firearms. You know, if it's been a hot minute since you guys have been into Franktown Firearms, you don't know what you're missing. The entire store has gotten a big facelift, completely remodeled, rearranged, new sales displays, more inventory, new people, even a new smell. Franktown Firearms is now a staccato dealer. So if you know, you know with that whole thing. And soon to be a dealer of the laser training systems that I talk about all the time from Mantis X that are so integral in your home training sort of regimen. You have to practice at home. You've heard me talk about it a million times. So training classes are ongoing. We've got the SimHouse training classes up and running. I have a Pistol 1 class scheduled for this Saturday, which is a concealed carry class, December 21st. You can go to the website, franktownfirearms.com. You can click on the date, click on the sign-up link, and you're good to go. My quarterly Pistol 2 class is coming up on January 4th. We've begun using our newly built sim house for training, as I said, and stay tuned for more and more classes to be popping up in the sim house as well. If private training... is what you're looking for and you don't want to sit in a classroom with a dozen other people, you can email me directly at karen.murray at franktownfirearms.com. My last name is spelled M-U-R-R-A-Y. And we can get you scheduled for an hour or two. And you can either learn to use a handgun or you can just refresh your skills and get back into the game. Gift certificates. Gift certificates. from Franktown Firearms are a fantastic Christmas present. If you are struggling with what to give that person who is really hard to buy for, consider getting them two hours of private training or get a certificate for $150 for a class. The store is open Monday through Saturday from 10 to 6, Sunday from noon to 6, You can reach us by phone at 720-770-7777 or stop by. Somebody will be more than happy to help you out. We're located just east of the intersection of Highway 83 and Highway 86 in Franktown. So we hope to see you soon. Oh, and one last thing that I have to mention as just a little reminder. So many people have asked about the new training requirements that are going into effect per House Bill 1174. which passed. Governor Polis signed it. Even some gun stores in the area are telling people that the stricter requirements to apply for your concealed handgun permit and this new law goes into effect on January 1st, but it does not. Read your bills, people. This law doesn't go into effect until July 1st of 2025. So look it up. first paragraph of the summary. It says, under existing law, an applicant for a permit to carry a concealed handgun must demonstrate competence with a handgun. An applicant may demonstrate competence with a handgun in a number of ways, including by completing a training class offered by a certified instructor within 10 years before submitting an application for a permit. Pursuant to the act, beginning July 1st, 2025, an applicant may demonstrate competence with a handgun by completing a training class only if the class satisfies the minimum standards for a training class described below. And the applicant completes the class within one year before submitting an application for a permit. And the rest of the, it's not for you. It's for me to worry about and people like me. This all instructor's job to create a course that meets the legal requirements. So there you go. Just wanted to set that record straight for those of you who may be panicking. because you think that you're running out of time as we're heading into the new year. You're not. You have plenty of time to do what you need to do. So as you know, I like to talk about the stuff that most other people don't talk about, or at least I guess in a way or from a perspective that others won't talk about or don't think about. So if you want to discuss anything I'm talking about today, please give us a call at 303-477-5600 and let's chat about it. We received our yearly Christmas package from my in-laws today. Oh, my gosh. Not only are there the pretty gifts that are always in there, which is so exciting, but my mother-in-law includes shortbread and cookies and a couple different flavors of quick breads. And might I add that my mother-in-law makes the best shortbread in the entire world. And that's a problem. Her cookies melt in your mouth fast. it's just insane. Although I can say that UPS or USPS or whoever delivers it, they don't really take much care in these packages because the cookies always come in pieces, but damn, those pieces are good. I always look forward to this package every year, but my waistline hates me for it, so whatever. I will be embarking on my yearly candy making on Thursday and Friday. I always make soft buttery caramels, like salted caramels and almond toffee. And of course, I have to sample everything I make. So it's a problem, you guys. I'm sure many of you are in the same boat. So I'm going to start today talking about the possibility of Trump doing away with daylight savings time. We're going to start light. And I'll start by saying this. Why do we recognize daylight saving time anyway? What is the point? They use all kinds of reasoning like better energy consumption or giving farmers an extra hour to work their fields or whatever. From the History Channel, I want you guys to hear this. Here's how Daylight Savings Time got its start. Check this out. Daylight Savings.
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Twice a year, we change the clocks to get an extra hour of sunshine. But this practice has much darker origins than you might expect. History explains Daylight Savings Time. Benjamin Franklin jokingly theorized about shifting daylight hours while he lived in France. Yet the idea wouldn't gain momentum until Englishman William Willett published his Waste of Daylight pamphlet in 1907. If the clock was shifted up an hour in the spring, he argued, people would save money by not lighting their homes for an additional hour at night. The British government didn't enact Willett's proposal, but nine years later, the enemy did. Germany and Austria-Hungary decided to adopt Willett's plan in an effort to conserve resources in the heat of World War I. Most other countries fighting in the war soon followed. So remember, the next time you spring forward or fall back, it took a world war to give us our first national taste of daylight savings.
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So that's how it got its start in a nutshell. And I know people on both sides of this argument, but personally, I hate it. I hate it. I don't mind the fallback, I guess, so much because, you know, I mean, I don't like it to get darker early or whatever. But I'm going to explain more about that in a second. At least we get an extra hour of sleep, right? On that Sunday morning, you wake up and, you know, you feel a little bit more refreshed and you think, oh, my gosh, I feel so great. And you look at the clock and it's 7 o'clock. That means your body thinks it's 8 o'clock. So whatever. But think about this. Just because the clock changes doesn't mean there are more or fewer hours in the day. The sun still rotates around us in the same amount of time. You see what I did there as a flat earther? Luke, you see what I did there? The sun rotates around us. But the number of daylight hours doesn't change. Only the clocks change, right? And I have to insert here a problem with Word Editor, okay? As I'm writing out my notes... And I'm typing the above sentence. The sentence reads, just because the clock changes doesn't mean there are more or fewer hours in the day. That was the sentence. The editor in Word wanted me to change the word doesn't to don't. What is that? As I'm typing the paragraph, I just spoke, it did it again. Who programs this Word editor? Because I'm sorry, that's not proper. Just because the clock changes don't mean there are more or fewer hours? Does that sound right to you? Oh, my gosh. Anyway, good grief. Anyway, the reason for implementing daylight savings time turned out to be all a bunch of BS. The idea of energy consumption goes out the window. They wanted more daylight hours in the summer to keep people from having to turn on their lights. But that point is moot when you consider that our AC units are running like crazy for an extra hour. So that's going to be a wash, right? At least a wash. I think AC probably runs, consumes a little more energy than a light bulb, right? So there are also studies that suggest a change in time, particularly the one in the spring where we spring forward. They have negative effects on your health. A professor from Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, and she's also the director of the sleep division, her name is Beth Ann Morrow, she suggests there is a link between daylight savings time and incidence of heart attacks, strokes, and a disruption in the circadian rhythm, leading to more health problems. In an article from theconversation.com, springing forward is hard on the body. This is because our clock time is moved an hour later. In other words, it feels like 7 a.m., even though our clocks say it's 8 a.m. So it's a permanent shift to later morning for almost eight months. This is particularly notable because morning light is valuable for helping to set the body's natural rhythm. It wakes us up and improves alertness. Although the exact reasons are not yet known, this may be due to light's effects on increasing levels of cortisol. a hormone that modulates the stress response or the effect of light on the amygdala, a part of the brain involved in emotions. In contrast, exposure to light later into the evening delays the brain's release of melatonin, the hormone that promotes a drowsiness. This can interfere with sleep and cause us to sleep less overall, and the effect can last even after most people adjust to losing that hour of sleep in the start of daylight savings time. Because puberty also causes melatonin to be released later at night, meaning that teenagers have a delay in the natural signal that helps them fall asleep, adolescents are particularly susceptible to sleep problems from the extended evening light of daylight savings time. This shift in melatonin during puberty lasts into our 20s. Adolescents may also be chronically sleep deprived due to school, sports, and social activity schedules. For instance, many children start school around 8 a.m. or earlier. This means that during daylight savings time, many young people get up and travel to school in pitch darkness. And then there is the western edge effect. So geography can also make a difference in how daylight savings time affects people. One study showed that people living on the western edge of a time zone who get light later in the morning and light later in the evening got less sleep than their counterparts on the eastern edge of a time zone. This study found that Western Edge residents had higher rates of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and breast cancer, as well as lower per capita income and higher health care costs. Other research has found that rates of certain other cancers are higher on the Western Edge of a time zone. Scientists believe that these health problems may result from a combination of chronic sleep deprivation and circadian misalignment. Circadian misalignment refers to a mismatch in timing between our biological rhythms and the outside world. In other words, the timing of daily work, school, or sleep routines is based on the clock rather than the sun's rise and set. So I can attest to this western edge thing. My husband's parents live in Great Falls, Montana. And I noticed immediately when I was there that it stays light much longer than it does here. Because, you know, if you look at the – I don't know if it's longitude or latitude, whatever. It doesn't matter to me because I'm a flat earther, right? Oh, my gosh. But it just stays light there much longer because we're on the western part of this time zone. So when we travel there in the summer, there's still light in the sky at 10, 10 p.m., 10.30 p.m. So Trump, if you're listening, just get rid of it. Get rid of it. I think it's ridiculous. Like I said, the light does not change. The daylight hours do not change. It's just the clock that changes, and then we have to adapt to the clock, and it's ridiculous. We do enough adapting. We don't have to adapt to that. So the burning question on everyone's mind, and this Kim just was talking about this. The hour before me is about these drones. She kind of finished up the show with the drones. What's up with the drones over New Jersey and elsewhere? And before I came on the air today, I actually saw a – let me see. I've got to find it here. The Gateway Pundit has a headline. It's kind of a breaking news headline, and it reads this. U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission releases report confirming radioactive material lost in transit. Do you guys remember that? A while back, like maybe six months ago, eight months ago, where the radioactive stuff was lost and nobody knew where it was. A shipping container arrives damaged and empty in New Jersey. So it could have something to do with that. It seems like Kim Monson's guest had kind of suggested that it could be a sniffer, some kind of a sniffer looking for radioactive materials and stuff like that. So my thinking goes back to that whole Chinese spy balloon thing that was floating around over the country. You guys remember that. I mean, who could forget, right? flying over sensitive military installations and just continued floating through the country until we finally destroyed it over the Atlantic Ocean, I think off the coast of South Carolina or something. But I'm sorry, you can't tell me that our government doesn't know what these things are and what they're doing. If they really don't know anything about them, then we're in more trouble than we can possibly fathom. I want you guys to listen to this piece that I found today from TikTok on the possible origins of these drones. Check this out.
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So we now have an update on the origin of the drones, thanks to some amazing research by FFA Family over on X. It seems to be that the drones belong to one of three companies, all of which have Department of Defense contracts. From every image we've seen of these drones, they match what these companies produce. So the only real question is, What is the government trying to hide here? Because really, like I said before, there's only two realities. One, where it was government doing this. Or two, we have a government so incompetent that we can't protect our own skies. And look, I know that our government is incompetent. I know that they generally suck at everything they do, but they've rarely been so blatantly bad at their jobs that things could just fly in the sky above New Jersey, New York, and Langley, all these important places. But now we're pretty sure these drones are coming from companies here in the United States, and each of those companies has government contracts. So again, the only question is... What's the government trying to hide? What are they trying to do to the American people? And if they're not trying to do anything and they're just trying to distract us, what could they possibly be distracting us from?
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So, yeah, yeah. What what is this? What is this? Is it a distraction? Speculation is off the chart right now, as you know. You guys probably have your own opinions and speculations on what these could be. Some people say it's Iran and they launched these drones from an underwater mothership. I think there was actually a legislator that came out with something like that. Maybe it's our own government spying on us. Maybe it's aliens from outer space, whatever. Y'all know how I feel about that. But and some people think that it is Iran and that they're all here to in some kind of a major plan to take Trump out before the inauguration. So I don't know. I don't know what they are. I don't know what they're doing, why they're doing it. But up Chuck Schumer is taking full advantage of this mystery and asking for more money from the Department of Homeland Security or for the Department of Homeland Security to investigate them. But I'm sure that all that money that we don't even have will be put to good use, investigating something that they likely already know about, if for no other reason than to launder that money through a couple defense contractors and stick it back in Schumer's pocket. Because that's usually how it goes, right? I don't have a clue what they could be, but I'm pretty confident in saying they're probably not up there doing us any favors. That's just my opinion. If you have an opinion on that, give me a call, 303-477-5600. I'd love to hear what you think. Until then, let's talk a little bit about health. Now, I want to see what kind of impact RFK Jr. is going to have as head of HHS. And before we get into that whole thing, I want to touch on a form of what I would consider medical malpractice and what they call gender affirming care. Now, you guys know, if you've listened to me at all, you know how I feel about this whole gender affirming trans thing. I think I said it last week that if you're over the age of 18 and you think you're in the wrong body, then you're mentally ill. And if you're under the age of 18 and you think you're in the wrong body, your parents are mentally ill. But I've had arguments with people on social media who seem to be willfully ignorant to what's actually happening with these doctors who are all on board with this kind of medical intervention. They'll tell me, doctors are not doing these procedures on minors. And I would like to say, yes, they are. It is complete BS that you even have that assertion. And if you did any kind of research, you would know better. And I suggest that you do it. From an article in the Daily Wire, celebrated trans doctor sued for medical negligence over removal of 14-year-old girl's breasts. The article says, a doctor... celebrated as America's best-known practitioner of youth gender medicine, is being sued for medical negligence by a former patient, a young girl who underwent transition and now feels she was deeply betrayed. 20-year-old Kaya Clementine Breen accuses Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy of fast-tracking her attempted gender transition, including puberty blockers, hormones, and a double mastectomy. when she was a young teenager. Her lawyers argue that Olson Kennedy, the therapist she referred Breen to, the surgeon who removed Breen's breasts, and other medical professionals are all guilty of medical negligence for rushing Breen through procedures that have deeply and negatively impacted her future. It says, quote, Clementine is a female who suffered from a complex, multifaceted array of mental health symptoms as a child and adolescent, the complaint states. She is also a survivor of multiple instances of sexual abuse as a child and adolescent, something that was never explored, addressed, or discussed by defendants in the course of their purported treatment. The lawsuit continues. Her presentation of symptoms and concerns included, among other things, anxiety, depression, autism, undiagnosed PTSD, potential bipolarism, as has been suggested by one of her psychiatrists, ongoing confusion regarding her gender, and eventually psychosis, including audio and visual hallucinations, panic attacks, and paranoia. Her family also has a lengthy history of mental health issues. She needed psychotherapy to evaluate, assess, and treat her complex comorbid mental health symptoms. She didn't get these things. Quote, instead, she was fast-tracked onto the conveyor belt of irreversibly damaging puberty blockers at age 12, cross-sex hormones at age 13, and gender-affirming surgery at age 14. It goes on, Clementine's providers deliberately, grossly, and recklessly breached the standard of care in this case, as discussed above, by, among other things, failing to adequately assess and treat Clementine's complex array of mental health symptoms and prior trauma before prescribing irreversible and life-altering medications and performing surgery, the complaint states. Instead, the defendants coerced Clementine and her parents with the threat of suicide, presentation of false information, and concealment of full information into an ill-advised experimental course of chemical-slash-surgical imitation sex change treatment that was utterly unsupported by any reliable medical research. This so-called treatment of Clementine by her providers represents a despicable failed medical experiment by a knowing, deliberate, and gross breach of the standard of care that was substantially certain to cause serious harm. But here's the kicker. This is what I want you to hear. The lawsuit is one of a number of cases brought by the detransitioners in recent years, okay? a number of cases. This one is particularly significant given that Olson Kennedy leads the Center for Trans Youth at Los Angeles Children's Hospital and is widely considered the most notable youth gender medicine clinician in the world. It goes on. Last month, Olson Kennedy revealed to New York Times that she purposefully stopped the publication of a $10 million taxpayer-funded study into puberty blockers and their effects on American children. Olson-Kennedy had hoped the study would show that puberty blockers improve children's mental health, and her study found no evidence that was the case. She said, quote, I do not want our work to be weaponized, she told the Times. It has to be exactly on point, clear, and concise, and that takes time. Notes from Olson-Kennedy's meetings with Breen indicate that Olson-Kennedy immediately started Breen on the transition route during their first visit. Breen had not yet met with a gender therapist nor seen a psychologist about her gender dysphoria, and Olson-Kennedy had not performed a mental health evaluation. Three months later, three months, people, Breen was able to get puberty blockers. Less than a year later, Olsen-Kennedy prescribed her testosterone, and in May of 2019, 14-year-old Breen underwent a double mastectomy. Olsen-Kennedy reportedly told Breen's parents that she was suicidal and would kill herself if they did not agree to cross-sex hormone therapy. So this doctor, if that's what you want to call this cretin, also wrote in a letter to Breen's surgeon that Breen had, quote, endorsed a male gender identity since childhood, a statement that contradicted Olson's own records. Olson Kennedy, that doctor, whatever you want to call her. So don't sit here and tell me that this stuff isn't happening and that there aren't doctors out there who are willing to do whatever it takes to to get these kids this gender-affirming care without even diving into their history, without diving into their mental health. They'll just start chopping stuff off, start giving hormones, pumping them full of these puberty blockers and hormones, and then start chopping stuff off. Don't tell me it doesn't happen because it does. It does. And, you know, these incidents of people wanting to detransition, Not all of them end up in lawsuits, so we only hear about a few of them. So if you're one of those people who don't believe this kind of thing happens, and I could name names right now, and I'm not going to, but I've argued with people left and right about this stuff. I've posted articles. I've posted research, all the things, and they either tell me that I'm ridiculous and that I'm in a cult, and then they block me or whatever. So they just don't want to hear it. Maybe it's rare. Obviously, it's quite rare, but that's no excuse. It shouldn't be happening at all. Even one of these cases is too many, if you ask me, right? So when we come back from break, I'm going to dive a little bit into Karen Kingston on Substack. I'm telling you, you've got to follow Karen Kingston on Substack. We'll be right back with all this stuff about COVID and the upcoming shenanigans that might be pulled. We'll be right back.
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And we are back. I was just kind of going off about this lawsuit that was filed by a young person who underwent a double mastectomy at the behest of this doctor named Olson Kennedy. And, you know, my beef with the medical industrial complex is what it is. But there are so many people involved in this medical... tyranny, I'll call it, that it goes above and beyond doctors and nurses and that kind of stuff. So Karen Kingston has a sub stack. If you don't know who Karen Kingston is, she is a researcher that dove deep into the whole COVID-19 pandemic, if you want to call it that, the vaccines and so on. So on December 4th, 2024, the coronavirus pandemic report came out and has inspired hope for justice in prosecuting U.S. federal agencies and individuals who engaged in egregious acts of willful injury against Americans and global citizens while frequently citing 18 U.S.C. 1001 that states it's a crime to lie to Congress. The congressional report also ignited controversy amongst many members of the medical freedom movement. The major point of controversy comes from one bullet point on page two of Chairman Brad Wenstrup's opening letter for the 557-page subcommittee report. And it says, quote, Operation Warp Speed was a tremendous success and a model to build upon in the future. The vaccines, which are now probably better characterized as therapeutics, undoubtedly save millions of lives by diminishing likelihood of severe disease and death. Okay, now stay with me on this. This statement, combined with Trump's and RFK Jr.' 's recent Mar-a-Lago meeting with the CEO of Pfizer, Eli Lilly, and Pharma, it's P-H-R-M-A, are causing many health freedom leaders to contemplate if every current and even future government official of our federal legislative and judicial branches under Trump is inevitably a deep state operative. Some medical freedom influencers continue to assert that we are simply watching more good cop, bad cop theater. A question naysayers raise is, why would House Representative Winstrip make a key point in the coronavirus pandemic report be the COVID-19 vaccines undoubtedly saved millions of lives, unless everyone involved in the government, including Congress, were deep state operatives? because naysayers and their followers only read the first two pages of the 557-page report. Select experts, again, jumped to conclusions about the intentions of President Trump and Congress without reading the complete document that they provided their expert opinions on. Just like with the Operation Warp Speed contract, which separates Pfizer from the U.S. military and government, thereby opening Pfizer up for liability. Pfizer's internal SBDD research and development on the invention and manufacturing of the SARS-2 spike proteins, verifying the ingredient of graphene oxide, and the laws regarding childhood vaccines, which hold manufacturers liable if they intentionally misrepresent or withhold safety or injury and death data. What the coronavirus pandemic congressional report actually says about vaccine safety, efficacy, and injuries and data says Biden administration unlawfully issued vaccine mandates causing mass harm and injuries. The COVID-19 vaccines are ineffective and not vaccines. Page 2, bullet 3 of Winstrip's introductory letter opens up the legitimate debate to drop legal immunity for the federal government as well as those corporations that mandated the shots by delineating the COVID-19 injections as therapeutics, not vaccines. The vaccines, which are now probably better characterized as therapeutics. Safety and efficacy claims were based on political agendas, not science. The report calls out that not only did the vaccine mandates cause unintended consequences, disease, disabilities, and death, but the mandates were not based in science. When Biden issued the September 9th, 2021 federal vaccine mandate, the federal government had evidence that the COVID-19 vaccines do not prevent infections from or protect against transmission of the virus. Ninth Circuit rules that Americans have the right to challenge CDC and government COVID-19 facts in court. Ted, I'm going to take your call real quick. What do you got for me?
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I haven't heard this said before about transitioning, and I don't get it. If the medical establishment believes that you can give a girl boy hormones and turn a girl into a boy or vice versa, then certainly giving a confused girl girl hormones or a confused boy boy hormones to strengthen their natural identity is Does that ever even get tried if someone is uncertain or feeling?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, that's a really, really good point. Like maybe they're just deficient in those hormones and maybe bolstering that would give them a little, you know, a little boost in identifying as their natural sex. That's a really good point. I've never even heard that before. So, yay. Thank you. Just give it a try. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I'd like to see this talked up. Thank you very much for your show.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yep. Absolutely. Ted, thank you for calling. So Ninth Circuit rules that Americans have the right to challenge CDC and government COVID-19 facts in court. Congress's assertion that the COVID-19 vaccines clinical claims were based on politics, not science. is in alignment with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in June 2024 ruling that plaintiffs have the right to reasonably challenge the government's claim that COVID-19 injections are safe and effective vaccines in a court of law. Congress appears to be more willing to open up the federal government and employers to a litany of lawsuits for mandating the shots. The Ninth Circuit Court ruled, quote, but we do not take judicial notice of the truth of the claims made in such written or oral statements. denying request for judicial notice of article where the government does not concede that the facts included are beyond dispute. For these reasons, LAUSD's motion to dismiss is denied, vacated, and remanded. Congress concludes COVID-19 facts were CCP propaganda. Are you with me on this? The Ninth Circuit's ruling is critical because the U.S. government acted in a coordinated and coercive way to harm the American people under the guise of public health safety. The U.S. government uses propaganda to control what information the American people accept as true information. by labeling anything that challenges the official narrative as Russian disinformation, as we all know, right? And that's kind of a thing. We always hear, no matter what it is, it's Russian disinformation, whether it's Hunter's laptop or COVID-19 stuff or any of the dossier or the Russia, Russia, Russia impeachment stuff, whatever it is. So the congressional report points out that what the U.S. government and government representatives called Russian disinformation regarding the origins of COVID and likely the safety of the vaccines was not Russian disinformation, but propaganda from the Chinese Communist Party perpetuated by the WHO and the NIH. Congress asserts COVID-19 vaccines had adverse events that must be investigated. Not only does Congress support RFK Jr.' 's efforts to audit the COVID-19 vaccines injuries, But Congress provides guidance on which government databases RFK Jr. with the HHS must audit, differentiating between passive and active surveillance systems. And then so passive surveillance, the congressional report explains federal health agencies participate in a variety of interwoven pharma covigilance efforts, including both passive and active surveillance. Passive surveillance is the collection of unsolicited reports from adverse events that are sent to a centralized database. The federal government's preemptive or preeminent passive surveillance system is VAERS. And we all know what VAERS is, right? That's the vaccine adverse event recording system, I think. Per the October 22, 2022 Kingston report, passive surveillance is defined as prior to FDA approval, The reporting of any side effect, so that's symptom disease or death, caused by Pfizer's COVID-19 injections was passive, consisting mostly of VAERS and Pfizer's responsibility to notify the FDA if they observed any safety outcomes of interest. Active surveillance includes the BEST and CMS database. The congressional report goes on to explain that HHS had a responsibility responsibility to also engage in active surveillance of serious adverse events and deaths caused by the COVID-19 injections using the best CMS, VSD, and V-safe database. It says, quote, active surveillance involves proactively gathering and analyzing data to verify signals found via passive surveillance or to detect new ones. 1378, the federal government's primary avenues for active surveillance are FDA, CBER, Sentinel, Best System, CMS data, CDC's VSD, and V-safe systems. Then U.S. Congress, this is the report in December 2024. Per the October 22, 2022 Kingston report, she says active surveillance means that HHS and the FDA's CBER-CDRH were obligated to take an active role with near real-time surveillance of side effects and safety outcomes of interest caused by the COVID-19 injections using the best incentives for Medicare and Medicaid services. I guess that's what CMS is, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. So their electronic records system that they have. So that's what was in her report in 2022. Best in CMS provided access to over 300 million lives and billions of health care claims. The congressional report goes on to explain how departments and individuals with HHS abdicated their legal duties to present the health claims. of the American people by failing or duties to protect the health of the American people by failing to inform the public of safety signals. In other words, HHS and Pfizer failed in their legal duties to inform the American people of the millions of serious diseases, disabilities, hospitalizations, birth defects, including stillbirths and deaths that were recorded in these government databases post COVID-19 injections. The next heading, is Congress going to act on behalf of the deep state and thwart RFK Jr.' 's COVID-19 vaccine data audit or to stop the recall? She says, no, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that Congress is going to attempt to stop RFK Jr.' 's data audit of the COVID-19 vaccine injuries and deaths, nor is Congress going to try and stop RFK Jr.' 's order to recall the mRNA injections from the market. which will happen within a hundred days of Trump taking office and likely much, much sooner. A typical recall takes seven days or less to complete. Congress will demand RFK Jr. run the vaccine injury reports. Reagan's National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, or NCVIA, requires Health and Human Services to provide reporting of adverse reactions so that the government can recall reactogenic, which means harmful or lethal, vaccine batches and lots quickly in order to reduce the risk of adverse reactions to vaccines. 42 USC 300 AA specifically states, In the administration of this part and other pertinent laws under the jurisdiction of the Secretary, the Secretary shall, and it says, make or assure improvements in and otherwise use the authorities of the Secretary with respect to the licensing, manufacturing, processing, testing, labeling, warning, use instructions, distribution, storage, administration, field surveillance, adverse reaction reporting and recall of reactogenic lots or batches of vaccines and research on vaccines in order to reduce the risk of adverse reactions to vaccines. The NCVIA laws also require HHS to submit a vaccine safety report across all childhood vaccines to Congress within two years of December 1987 and periodically thereafter. So there you have it. Of course, you're not hearing about this congressional report because, I mean, I know many of you have taken the vaccine. Maybe some of you are happy that you took it and continue to get boosted. I'm not really sure why, but, you know, it's something that was never – as you know, was never fully researched. The package inserts on these vaccine vials were left blank intentionally. There's a reason for that. And there's a reason why, I mean, why would they mandate something that hasn't been fully tested? And this is one point of contention that I have with Trump as well, that he continued to talk about the vaccine and how great it was and how it was his greatest accomplishment ever. And on and on and on. And I just, I don't get it other than something nefarious. Sorry. That's the way that I feel about it. So go follow Karen Kingston. She is a firebrand when it comes to researching these vaccines. And of course the deep state hates her for it. She has been hit from every angle that one could possibly be hit for putting her research out there. And along the same lines and with respect to vaccines, and what's still in the works for we the people. Bill Gates is in the news again, and it seems it's never for anything good. As I sit here and type on my computer with a Windows 11 operating system that Microsoft developed, I think to myself, how odd is it that he went from creating computer software to helping create and promote medical interventions? How does that work? But he is full steam ahead with his depopulation agenda through disease X now. And we will be hearing more about this, trust me. This new disease will be the catalyst for forever lockdowns in 15-minute cities across the Western world. Bill Gates has been doing tabletop exercises with the World Economic Forum. Governments are quietly implementing laws requiring forced vaccination and And Klaus Schwab is dropping hints about the end of America. Now, Klaus Schwab, World Economic Forum. In a name, World Economic Forum, what the hell do they have to do with any medical mandates or pandemics or any – what do they have to do with any of that? Don't you think that's kind of a front for something else? Yeah, because it kind of is. So three years ago, Bill Gates was on Stephen Colbert's show, and he was talking about the final solution for humanity. And that's how he worded it, the final solution. And then Colbert called him out and said that he probably shouldn't rile up the conspiracy theorists by using that term final solution. And Gates just laughed and laughed, and they laughed together, and he's like, right, yeah, right. So the return to normal solution, he kind of corrected himself and said the return to normal solution, which we all know is BS, right? So you guys know how I feel about the COVID vaccine. I've kind of made that crystal clear, I think. And now that more time has passed and the stuff that I've read and the stuff that I've watched, a lot of information regarding the entire childhood vaccine schedule of like 17 different or 72 different vaccines before the kids, even two years old or something. I believe all vaccines are terrible and cause a myriad of problems, including autism, as you guys all know, but it doesn't stop with just your typical childhood and COVID vaccines. The World Health Organization says that disease X is looming, and they're giving warnings. And ironically, a vaccine has already been developed for it. But it's fine. I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure everybody is just going to line up and roll up their sleeves and give me that needle. Tedros, what's his face? I don't even try to pronounce his name. He says that we can consider COVID-19 as the first disease X, and it may happen again, is what he says. So there is a lab in Great Britain. I think Porton Down is what I heard, known for its work. Now, the lab is infamous or known for their work in chemical warfare. and they are experimenting with disease X. So much like the SARS-CoV-2 gain-of-function lab experiments that were taking place at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill in conjunction with the Department of Defense, right? So the fact that there's already a vaccine for disease X that was developed in a lab that also produces compounds used in chemical warfare shouldn't that tell you all you need to know even they're saying that the 2025 flu vaccine likely contains some hideous cocktail that's going to make everyone who takes it very sick and it's all by design and you hear this stuff and i read this stuff and i'm like okay So why is it then that people will continue? I mean, I still know people that get boosted. They go in and get their boost, the whole booster thing. Why is that? So when disease X comes around this time, are you going to take it? Are you going to take the shot? Will you believe the narrative? And run to the store and just take yourself back to the summer of 2020. Or, you know, the end of 2019 when they started ramping up all the propaganda and all the tickers started showing up on your TV screen. And the number of deaths, the number of cases. And everything's in red. And they just scared the pants off of everybody. Right? Right. But, you know, of course, me watching and listening to the sources that I watch and listen to, I wasn't convinced. I mean, like I've always said, I was scared for a minute. Everybody was because we fell for it right off the bat because these people are very convincing in what they do and what they put out there. So I was convinced for a short time. that COVID may be more than just a bad cold. I was convinced that, I mean, I remember walking through the store and I, you know, for, for a while there, I was following those ridiculous arrows on the floor and I was trying to stay six feet away from people. And they, you know, the floor, the little feet prints that they had on the floor that were six feet apart and all that stuff. I did it. I did it and I fell for it. I sanitized my groceries when I got home. I sanitized things that I got from Amazon, you know, with a rag with some bleach water on it and, you know, wiped everything down before I put it away and wore my mask. And I remember walking through the store and somebody was walking in front of me and I'm thinking to myself, ooh, I'm passing through their air. Like they just passed through this space and now I'm breathing in the air that they breathed out. Ew! And I just remember thinking that way. And I think a lot of people did, some longer than others, obviously. I still see people running around in their cars with their masks on. But are you going to fall for it again? I really would love to know that if anybody is out there thinking, yeah, I kind of believe what they've got going on. I believe what they're saying, and I really think that we're going to – You know, this is going to be the end of civilization as we know it. But like I said, I'm sure it's fine, right? It's vital work to keep us all safe, according to a news report out of the UK. So this lab that's working on this compound or working on chemical warfare already has developed the vaccine for disease X, and it's fine. So yeah, you're going to go run out and stock up on toilet paper and willingly lock yourself in your house and wear a mask when you're out in public and all that stuff again, because I'm not. I sure as hell am not going to be doing any of those things. They can all get bent. You know, there's a part of me that wonders, though, and this is where You know, you kind of flip-flop and you go back and forth and you kind of try to think like them. And, you know, it gets very confusing. But was COVID a test run to see how compliant we would all be? And then just launch this virus that's, you know, 90% fatal or something. And then those of us who give them the double-barrel middle finger are aren't wearing our masks, we're not getting vaccinated, we're not staying six feet apart, you know, the whole thing. Is that designed to take the rebels of this whole situation and, you know, eliminate us? Is that how it's going to roll? Who knows? I don't know. But the people who resist may end up taking a dirt nap, whatever. And to that, I say, oh, well, when it's my time to go, it's my time to go. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. And I hope a lot of you were in that same kind of boat. But here's the deal. It was never about your health. Dr. Simon Goddick put this out on X and said, they told the unvaccinated to get the shot because it worked. Then they told the vaccinated to get a booster because it didn't. Then they claimed the unvaccinated were endangering the vaccinated by not getting the shot that failed to protect the vaccinated. The circus was never about health. It was always about depopulation and control. So I guess we will see what kind of lies they can gin up this time and scare the bejesus out of everyone, the population at large. And we'll see how many people comply with their new mandates and their new rules. Because as we know, we still see it. You can spend any amount of time at the airport and you're going to see people running around with masks on their face. Spend any amount of time driving around and you're going to see people running around in their cars with masks on their face. So alone. So that's going to do it for me today, you guys. Thank you so much for spending the last 58 minutes with me on She and the Breeze. I appreciate it. Come down to Franktown Firearms and check us out. Until next Monday, same time, same bat channel. I'm out for now. Mama Glock says see ya, and God bless, everyone.
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ABC News' George Stephanopoulos – in addition to deleting his X (formerly Twitter) account – failed to mention on his Sunday show, "This Week," that ABC News was ordered to pay $15 million to President Donald Trump's presidential library in a defamation lawsuit. The Sekulow team discusses the fallout for ABC News and Stephanopoulos, CNN helping to free a dangerous criminal from a Syrian prison, Richard Grenell's new post in the Trump Administration as Presidential Envoy for Special Missions, the Deep State FBI's corruption, the ACLJ's legal work – and much more.
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Today on Sekulow, Trump awarded millions of dollars from ABC News and a big update on our fight for life in Massachusetts.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110.
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And now your host, Logan Sekula. Welcome to Sekula. We've got a great show lined up for you today. Obviously, we're talking about the big news where President Trump was awarded a significant amount of money, $15 million. And we'll talk about where that money's going to go. It doesn't just go into his pockets because that's not how he usually plays it. So ABC News reached a settlement, as you may have heard. ABC News slash George Stephanopoulos, because of his reporting, had to not only issue an official apology... to president Trump. They also had to give $15 million. And that $15 million is going to go on to whether it was the Trump's library. That's right. Or something like that. Something nice and historical to memorialize president Trump's, uh, Historic administration.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. I envision a nice plaque that says courtesy of ABC News and George Stephanopoulos.
SPEAKER 07 :
They'll say ABC fake news.
SPEAKER 11 :
When the Trump presidential library is completed after his second term sometime in the future. Yeah. But what this is, is this stems from reporting when ABC News had on Nancy Mace, a congresswoman from South Carolina, and George Stephanopoulos aggressively was pushing her on the issue of how she could support Trump when she had been a victim of violence in the past at the hands of a man. and trying to use President Trump in the civil cases that he had been facing in New York as kind of a bait and switch of like, well, how can you do this to support this man who has these civil judgments, but he miscategorized what they were. He doubled and tripled down on it, too. And kept going, even though what he claimed they were out of New York wasn't indeed the truth. And therefore, the president filed a defamation lawsuit, something that is very difficult when you are someone in the public eye. Usually it's often impossible to win something like this. And now the question that is before is ABC News felt like now after the election was the time to settle this, make it go away instead of getting to discovery or even trying to have it thrown out of court. Before it even got to those stages, they decided to settle with discovery. President-elect Trump in the tune of about $15 million, which will go to his presidential foundation and memorial library in the future. So they got out of it. George Stephanopoulos deleted his Twitter account in the wake of this. And they haven't addressed it at all. I'm sorry. I'm still stuck in my old ways calling it Twitter. But he deleted his ex account and they haven't addressed it, which may be some of the terms of the settlement because this was settled out of court that maybe both sides aren't going to talk about it. But it's a big win for the president. And, you know, the vindication here is that they settled in a case of defamation, which many times I would say most of the time when it's against a very public figure. The person who is the defendee who has the allegations of defamation against them wins out in high-profile cases because it is so hard to prove you are acting with malicious intent.
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It's not just free speech and you're having these discussions. We're going to keep this conversation going as well. My dad, Jay Sekulow, is going to be joining us in the next segment because we've all had our run-ins with George Stephanopoulos over the years. And you will find and watch a very specific clip. featuring my father and george stefanopoulos from just a couple years back you're going to find that pretty interesting in light of all of this and again he is someone who i think has been friendly to us over the years as well so i don't want to like just disparage the guy but it is nice to see when there are moments like this where you don't want to say justice was served but where you can't just go on there and lie and an issue apology had a big you know sum of money And then hopefully everyone gets to move on with their day. We also have a major update in our fight for life in the pregnancy resource centers in Massachusetts. You heard about our new counter campaign last week. And on Friday, they had to respond. The state had to respond. And what they put in their letter, some of it you're going to find disturbing, but not shocking. I'll say that. How about that? Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We'd love to take your calls as well. And Jeff Balabot will be joining us from Israel. And of course, we've got to send a congratulations to our friend Rick Grinnell. We're going to be talking about that later on as well as he has a new appointment. 1-800-684-3110 to call in. We are in the last two weeks of our ACLJ year-end Faith and Freedom Drive. Make your donation today. Your gifts will be doubled. Welcome back to Sekulo. Thanks for joining us. My dad, Jay Sekulo, is going to be joining us here in just a moment. You can give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Of course, we're talking about the news where George Stephanopoulos and the ABC News Department had to pay out. settlement 15 million big ones and offer an apology to President Trump over some of their false claims and again a pretty interesting win because as Will stated not always easy to win in this type of situation or to even get to that point so the fact that ABC decided let's settle and let's settle this before Trump takes office is very telling at the same time you have a weekend where Tim Cook is flying down to Mar-a-Lago meeting with Elon and and President Trump it's a pretty wild time Right now, as we're moving into just 35, 36 days away from President Trump taking office once again. My dad, again, Jay Sekulow, has joined us. I want to start this, Dad, first, because we've all had a bit of run-ins with George Stephanopoulos. Not necessarily a person that has been a bad guy. We've worked with him for years. But there was a moment, a pretty iconic moment. It goes back, back in the impeachment trial. You were out doing press. And this one still lives on because I saw many people posting this over the weekend saying, remember this? And maybe this was sort of the beginning of the end for some of the bias that's coming out and some of the ways that the news kind of lies to the public. So take a look at this. This is my dad, Jay Sekulow. out uh you know talking to the press immediately following or right before one of the hearings one of the sessions during the impeachment trial right so so that's happening and this is what happened live on television go ahead
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Because our position is you still have to meet basic fundamental constitutional obligations, and they haven't. Next.
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How much more work do you think you have ahead to try and convince that rumor?
SPEAKER 01 :
And that is Jay Sekulow right there. And let's bring in our panel to talk a little bit about that. You just saw something a little bit new from Jay Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
There you go. Something a little bit new from Jay Sekulow. But of course, right before that, what they cut to was him going like this, giving the ax to cut off on your neck, basically saying, cut this off, probably because this is too good of an argument. But dad, I want to get your, obviously your initial thoughts of this, but then your thoughts on this settlement over the weekend.
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Yeah, well, first of all, you know, I have a good relationship with George Stephanopoulos, and I got along with most of me. And, you know, in those days, Logan, I was doing sometimes nine, ten news hits a day, and those were right during the impeachment. So I'd come off the floor of the Senate and then go do that one. I'll never forget that one, though, because... evidently he knew he got caught doing the cutoff sign. And I was about to say, what I was about to do was they made a major gap that morning in their argument, the impeachment managers. And I was to get into the guts of it, which was just going to be a couple of seconds, but he did not want it to go there. So look, I mean, this is the problem the media gets into. And then, of course, the accusation that ABC News and George Stephanopoulos individually said, made on air accusing the president of a federal crime and a state crime is what's called defamation per se. So they really had no choice but to settle it.
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Because usually in this situation, and Will brought this up, often if it's a, let's say it's a celebrity or public figure versus somebody who's saying, well, they're saying bad things about me on the news or saying bad things about me on the Internet. It's often a hard case to win. I've been in many of those discussions where people get very upset because they feel like the news is just flat out lying about them. But sometimes there's nothing you can do. So this is a bit of a big moment.
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Yeah, so the interesting thing here is in the defamation laws in the United States, if you're a public figure, which is clearly the situation here, that the president's a public figure, you have a very high standard to show a defamation case. The knowledge of the false statement has to be laid at the feet of the reporter or whoever made the statement. The difference is, though... when it's a crime that you've accused somebody of a criminal act, that is defamation per se. That means it is defamation on its face and the normal defenses don't work. And that's why they settled it for hold your breath. $15 million. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
$15 million are probably what hurt the most. The official apology. I feel like probably too.
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Well, and, uh, we do also look at this, this fact that it is something novel. I feel like for a lot of our audience seeing the, uh, news media, uh, admit that they were wrong and having to actually pay out for things that they were wrong about uh do you think going forward in the new administration we know that that the media is not going to back off but we're seeing the cratering numbers of msnbc that comcast is thinking about spinning off all of their cable division cnn's numbers are low and we've got a story we'll talk about there with their reporting in syria but now this almost seems to be uh A sign on the wall for many of those news organizations that maybe they will be a little bit more careful about some of the, dare I say, misinformation that they put out there during this next administration.
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I think it's a couple of things. Well, one is that and I think this is part of it. They have all the media has recalibrated itself. and are trying to reset with the incoming president of the United States, who was the 45th president, will now be the 47th president. I think the perfect example of that is Joe Scarborough and his wife, Mika, who's the co-host of Morning Joe. They went down to Mar-a-Lago to meet with the president to try to reset everything. Same thing here. This is a lot of resetting because what they had tried to do to President Trump in 2016 And that term, they're not going to be able to pull off this time. They're just not. It's a different we're in a different world. So I think the media is having to do a recalibration. I think that the liberal media, the MSNBC, the CNNs of the world are in serious, serious trouble financially. I think that you're going to see a total redo and Fox and the others are up 12, 14 percent.
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Yeah, they're thriving, and I think you're going to see that too. And like I said, I think for a lot of these companies, you may see it for ABC as well at some point. Now, ABC News, because it's over-the-air network, it's a little different than the way NBC runs, because I look at MSNBC, and I've always told you, I felt like MSNBC is a weird piece in the portfolio of NBCUniversal, of Xfinity Comcast, as really an entertainment brand, as a company that's a provider of a lot of people's internet and cable, to then all of a sudden have this... You know, very distinct leftist network on MSNBC, something that really takes away 50 percent of your audience, who is just your average customer, who a lot of them rely on you for for service. That's why I think in NBC, it makes total sense for them to get out of that business. For CNN, it's a little different. And for ABC, it's a little different because ABC, like I said, has more of that crossover. They don't have the cable news. affiliate. But you saw CNN. They lost one of their big anchors last week with Allison Camerata, left the network. And you're going to see that happen over and over. As you said, the idea that we'll just go after President Trump for four years so he can't run again, obviously that doesn't happen this time. So what are you going to have to do? They still have to figure out how to get access, how to have things happen and if he's talking about tariffs and what does it all end up looking like i'm sure there's a little bit of being scared there but we're at that point where now they're reacting and i find that to be pretty interesting and pretty fun you're going to see like you said a shake-up uh in the news media when you have really what i believe one of the big things that won president trump the election this time was the uh it was new media where the last time The embracing of TikTok and some of these other outlets by the Democrats, I think, highly helped them. You then had the opposite effect, which is President Trump saying, forget about traditional media. Let's go to Joe Rogan. Let's go to Theo Vaughn. Let's go to where there are tens of millions of people who no one else is talking to. and go to the guy that they trust the most in some ways, this audience trusts the most, and then got all these big endorsements. And that happened over and over and over again. And I think it changed. That and obviously putting together a team with people like our friends, Tulsi Gabbard or with RFK Jr. And now again with Rick Grinnell, we'll talk about that in the next segment about how Rick's got a new spot, but he'll still be around. So don't worry. We'll talk to him a little bit later this week. Obviously he's a busy guy, always a busy guy. But dad, as we wrap up this segment, I also want to give an opportunity. We're two weeks left in our Faith and Freedom drive. It is the end of the year. This is the most important time. As I've said, 25% of our budget for the entire year comes in during this month. And right now, honestly, we're a little down. It's a big year to match. We got to make sure we get there. All donations are matched, but it's a very important time. And as Christmas and the holidays all fall and New Year's fall in kind of weird spots this year, this should be the time that you decide to give your year in giving right now.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I really want to say first a huge thank you to all the people who are supporting the ACLJ with their gifts and especially, of course, our ACLJ champions. But I also want to say, as Logan just mentioned, that we are at the last two weeks of the year here. And these are the most important two weeks for the ACLJ financially. What happens, as Logan said, 25%. A little bit more than that, actually, of our budget comes in in one month, if you can believe that. But that's what happens at the end of the year. And that's true for a lot of nonprofits, but for us particularly. And then what that allows us to do is then set our budgets on what we can and cannot handle next year. There's going to be a lot of legal challenges. The president's going to move swiftly on things. You know the left's going to attack, and we have to be the voice to counter that attack. So your support of the ACLJ right now really does make a huge difference. And again, a huge thank you to everyone. But if you're in a position to make a gift, I encourage you to do it today at ACLJ.org.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. Thank you, Dad, for joining us. And again, as he said, if you're watching right now, also, you can scan the QR code we'll put up on the screen right now. You'll see it in the corner. If not, just go to ACLJ.org or if it's easier to you, go to ACLJ.org. All gifts. You don't have to opt in. All gifts are matched and doubled by other ACLJ members, ACLJ champions, people that support on a monthly recurring basis. We love those ACLJ champions. But some of you just give one time a year. Or maybe you've never given at all and you've enjoyed this broadcast and you enjoy the legal work and we're there fighting for people. We got a big response from the state of Massachusetts. We're going to talk about this a little bit later on that anti-pregnancy resource center campaign they've been running. We've challenged it in court and now we're taking it to the streets literally with our counter campaign, Choice Begins Here. I'm going to show you a preview of that as well as give you that update coming up in just a moment. And we're going to talk about our friend, like I said, Rick Grinnell. He's got a new position. We're excited about that. It's a brand new position. Very cool. Again, though, support the work of the ACLJ. You're going to hear me talk about it today, and you really need to. We are at the year end. I'm going to keep talking about it until I can't talk anymore because it means so much to us right now. If you ever thought about doing it, this is the time. Go to ACLJ.org. We'll be right back. Welcome back. Phone lines are still open for you, by the way. We got about four lines open. It's a great time to call in as we will take all those calls coming up later in the broadcast, whether in the next segment or at the end of the show. So call in now. 1-800-684-3110. Jeff Balaban is going to be joining us from ACLJ Jerusalem in the next segment with some interesting updates from there as well. But I wanted to first lead with this. As you know, we have been for the last six or seven months. Been working on this project because I went through the streets of Massachusetts. I was hanging out in Boston and I saw these ads that said avoid anti-abortion centers. And they were very targeted specifically at pro-life pregnancy resource centers, which I've worked with and the ACLJ has worked with for decades. And these are places that have just incredible hearts and incredible, a lot of incredible technology. And they work with future mothers to give them real options. That's what we say. It's not just going in and saying abortion is your option, which is sadly what happened so many times. for women who are scared or don't know where to go. When they walk into a Planned Parenthood, sadly, that's the way they make their money. So they pitch it that way. But these pro-life pregnancy resources provide amazing things. Whether that's, by the way, pre and postnatal. So you have, you know, obviously all the stuff you need, ultrasounds, everything to be taken care of before you have the baby. And then post, a lot of them have days where you go and you get free clothes. You get free formula. They take care of you. They'll take your baby for a few hours. They'll do a lot of things. There's so many great things these resource centers do. So when a multi-million dollar ad campaign comes out from your own state, from your own commonwealth of Massachusetts, you can feel pretty defeated. And when I saw that, we made some contacts, realized this is what was happening in Massachusetts. They were spending millions of dollars, some with... pro-choice groups they were working with, but taxpayer money as well to do this. And the people felt horrible and defeated, the actual people of Massachusetts. Because a lot of them, even the ones that are, I guess, Democrat voters, if you will, a lot of them are pro-life. This is a large Catholic community there that you know of. Everyone knows that. And a lot of them are hardcore in terms of pro-life. So there's some great pro-life pregnancy resource centers around there. And we said, how can we help? And there's two ways we just determined. ACLJ, what are we known for? The law. So we took him to court. We got a response on Friday. We're about to tell you that. And of course, the media. And that's where I came in and said, all right, let's work with my team, put together a really amazing counter campaign. It's full of hope and full of joy. Where theirs is full of sadness and regret and all this stuff. Ours is going to be full of joy, hope, sadness, and what it can look like in the future. And of course they tell you in their documents, make sure you, if you see the word hope, that's a red flag that this is a pro-life pregnancy resource center. Do not go in there. They're not going to help you. They're going to make sure you have a safe and healthy baby. They're not going to make sure that you terminate your pregnancy. But we filed this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And I'll give a little bit of background on the case. So we filed a lawsuit against the governor, the commissioner of this organization within the Massachusetts government, as well as the organization that was putting the ads forward. And we allege that. There was an overt viewpoint-based discrimination campaign, including harassment, suppression, and threats against Your Options Medical and other pregnancy resource centers directed by the governor. The pro-abortion smear campaign involves selective law enforcement, prosecution, public threats, and even state-sponsored advertising campaign with the singular goal to deprive Your Options Medical and their counterparts of their First Amendment rights, voiced to freely... freely exercise their religious and political viewpoints. And we filed the lawsuit. In the steps of the lawsuit, kind of one of the first things you have is a motion to dismiss by the defendants.
SPEAKER 07 :
And very expected that this would come.
SPEAKER 11 :
So what they're trying to say to the court is, hey, here's why you should just throw this out. And that's what we got. We got their first reasoning about our lawsuit on Friday. And one of the first things they say is the complaint fails to state a claim upon which relief can be granted because this government speech is permitted by the First Amendment. It does not burden Your Options Medical's free exercise of its religious beliefs, and it does not violate the Equal Protection Clause. They also say qualified immunity bars Your Options Medical claims against Governor Healey and Commissioner Goldstein. It's interesting. they're using qualified immunity here because that is kind of a a bad word on the left because that is the same doctrine that covers police officers for what their actions are during the course of their duties they're using that same legal argument here to give protection to the governor and the commissioner here for their liberal views well i'm reading this thing of course what you say sure that's that's what they're doing because they're gonna use all options because you know what
SPEAKER 07 :
Maybe the Commonwealth of Massachusetts saw the American Center for Law and Justice, the ACLJ, and said, uh-oh, this is the real deal coming for us right now. This is not some fly-by-night organization that's going to back off and go away. No, of course we're going to respond. And also in their text, by the way, a few statements. One, the government free speech. Sure, the government has their own speech. Who's determining that speech? The government. So does that represent the people? From what I can tell in the state of Massachusetts, not always. There's a lot of people who are very upset about this. But also, this is what it says specifically, and I think you should be a little worked up about this. Of course, it says, I'll read this to you. It says, on March 22nd, 2023, the Massachusetts legislature enacted a supplemental budget signed by Governor Healey on March 29th, which provided not less than $1 million shall be expended for public awareness campaigns to educate providers about crisis pregnancy centers and pregnancy resource centers and the center's lack of medical services. Provided further, the campaign should include information on the availability of providers across the Commonwealth that provide legitimate medical and family planning services. And then later on, earlier on, specifically says, because they don't provide abortions, these are illegitimate services.
SPEAKER 11 :
resources and place in illegitimate places for our you know parents potential parents to go to because they do not provide the option of killing their child that's right it says on page six of this motion to dismiss it says as the complaint alleges the department explained that anti-abortion centers provide information and counseling to individuals who are or may be pregnant some provide testing for stds pregnancy test and ultrasounds to determine how far along the pregnancy may be sounds accurate yeah Many of these centers advertise themselves as full-service reproductive health care clinics, the department noted, yet they do not provide abortion care or abortion referrals and other important reproductive health care services. So they can't say that they're a full-service clinic when they're not giving abortions out.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's part of the argument here within the motion to dismiss that was filed. You have to understand the mentality that's going on within the left on this issue right now. That if you are just... not providing one service. A service that is illegal now, by the way, in about probably a dozen states. You can't even get one. Abortion doesn't exist in the state of Tennessee. It is pretty much impossible. It's only a life of the mother kind of exceptions here. It doesn't exist. In certain states, obviously there's a lot more. Massachusetts, it's actually probably one of the most liberal states in the country in terms of life. So these options, pro-life pregnancy resource centers, it's not like there's not other options for them to go to. If you're stepping in one of these, you probably know what you're getting yourself into and you're actually looking for real compassion, real care. When you hear the stories of these real people, it really moves you. You should watch our special we did for the love of God, Save Our Country, which came out earlier this year, came out in October. You should look at that because you can hear what amazing stories from Save the Storks and what they're doing. You'll connect with these groups. They're doing amazing, amazing, beautiful work. But you have states that are going to do whatever they can to shut them down. And that's why the ACLJ has to be there, everybody. We've got to be there two prongs. Media, and I'm going to play when we get back. Make sure you're watching the second half hour. I'm going to play for you our first preview. You may have seen it last week. Our first preview on our Choice Begins Here campaign, which is going to start in the state of Massachusetts early next year if we get enough funds to support it. So where a mother is walking around, or expectant mother's walking around, they see an ad that says, avoid anti-abortion centers. They're not going to help you. We're going to provide hope and care and push them to these incredible resource centers that are going to help them through their pregnancy and beyond. I encourage you to go to ACLJ.org to make that donation. We are trying to raise $500,000 for that campaign. It is an uphill battle. But know how important that battle is. Again, go to ACLJ.org. Support the work of the ACLJ. Donations are doubled right now during our year-end drive. Ends in just a couple weeks. Do it today.
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keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open. We're going to take them coming up later in the broadcast. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. If you're just joining us, you may have heard the story about ABC News having to award President Trump $15 million for an official apology. We discussed that in the first half of the broadcast. And then we also just talked about the response from the state of Massachusetts, Commonwealth of Massachusetts, on our fight to help protect Americans. pro-life pregnancy resource centers from the state getting involved, spending taxpayer dollars, millions, the tune of millions of dollars to try to get these organizations out of business, essentially shut them down. And we believe it's targeting. And of course, they're going to say, oh, it's our freedom of speech. We got a lot to fight back on. And look, we're going to start it in Massachusetts. And if you guys all support it, we hope to take this new campaign around the country to all the states that need it the most. I'll be honest, I came on here, we had a big ask. I said, we gotta raise $500,000 to get this ad campaign going. It's supposed to start in March. When it gets a little warmer in Massachusetts, people are walking around, you're gonna start seeing it in billboards, you're gonna start seeing it on buses, you're gonna start seeing it in restrooms. It's gonna be wherever people are. to the tune of millions of impressions. We got to make sure we are there and you're going to be able to see it and in the right places. We're talking about specifically where? College campus areas, areas where Planned Parenthood and other essentially abortion centers are located. So we're going to make sure we are hitting those spots very intentionally. But we can't do it without you. I know you go, hey, I may not live in the state of Massachusetts. Why do I care? Because again, we want to take this to other states. And also it is how you fight back against really government overreach saying their voice is stronger than the voice of the people. So right now, support that work at ACLJ.org. I want to show you a preview of our campaign, Choice Begins Here. Most people think, oh, you're going to do some gory, disturbing show. When I grew up in the 80s and 90s, it was a lot of that. It was a lot of imagery, graphic imageries of abortions. And look, I think that when you do see those, it does affect you. But what if we took a different look at it? What if we gave a completely different spin on it? We tried to reach people's hearts in a different way. And our team developed this new campaign, Choice Begins Here. And I want you to take a look at the first video ad. Go ahead.
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I'll never forget that day. Scariest moment of my life. I had just started my business and then this. Pregnant? Really? I just thought about all of my dreams falling apart. I needed help, I needed answers. Places I heard of, they seemed to only offer one option. Then I found a pregnancy resource center and they talked to me about my options. She listened, she actually cared about me. No shame, no judgment. I'll never forget that day either. The day that I realized maybe this wasn't the end of my dreams, but just the start of one I hadn't even imagined. To find a pregnancy resource center near you, go to choicebeginshere.org.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that is the first look at Choice Begins Here. Again, of course, paid for by you, ACLJ supporters. Brought to you by the ACLJ and couldn't happen without you. So we want that to blanket the state of Massachusetts to fight their anti, you know, what they call the anti-abortion centers, what they're really targeting is people giving real choice. So I'm gonna encourage you right now, make that donation at ACLJ.org. You're gonna hear me say it a bunch of times. But when I see that video and I see what we're trying to do, we're seeing the imagery that we're going to be rolling out around the country and starting in Massachusetts. We're doing it with the best of intentions, the best of hearts. And that's real cold, hard dollars that have to be spent to get that advertising space. And we need your help to do that. So I encourage you again, go to ACLJ.org. Next segment, we're going to be joined by Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem with a critical update. I know some of you have asked specifically about Rick Grinnell because we didn't get to that as much. We'll have him on later in the broadcast later in the week. But he was named presidential envoy for special missions. And some of you asked, does that mean that he is off the show? No, I believe it means he will still be seeing Rick Grinnell in this broadcast quite a bit. So don't worry about that. We are very proud, very excited for him to have this new opportunity to be, you know, being a part of the conversation in places like North Korea. And of course, we couldn't have those amazing people on our ACLJ team because now we have him and we had Tulsi. We've put together an amazing crew the last few years and look where a lot of them ended up. It's pretty fantastic. And we're very proud of all of them. And of course, I'm sure we'll look forward to them checking in regularly as well. Again, phone lines are open 1-800-684-3110. Next segment, we're going to Israel with Jeff Balaban. Welcome back to Sekulow. Jeff Balaban's joining us from ACLJ Jerusalem. We had some pretty interesting updates going on over there. And of course, we had some interesting updates, Will, coming on over here in regards to the current conflict between Gaza and Israel and what that looks like. And of course, that war that's been ongoing. But of course, it can't have to, you know, just as something has been positive, something negative had to come out of this, something a bit controversial, and we're responding.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. So as we told you last week, we uncovered among a ceremony, graduation ceremony of the National Academy, which is an FBI training academy for local law enforcement and some international police groups, that the day after Chris Wray announced that he would be resigning from his position at the end of the term, he was handing out diplomas. And he gave one to a man who was from an intelligence police force in the Palestinian Authority's control. and announced him as from Ramallah, state of Palestine. ACLJ did not take that and just, hey, okay, it's bad policy at the end of a presidency. We got a FOIA out, sending it out today. Can we play the clip of this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, this is fight four. I think you can see how egregious it is when you just see how casual, it's not like they said, you know, made a statement. It's just very casual, like a graduation ceremony. Right. Take a look.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hossam Abu Aisha, Preventative Security Organization, Ramallah, State of Palestine.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you hear that though, of course, just again, casually, nice little claps. And probably a lot of people not even thinking about it, but of course you hear that and you go, oh, this is a recognition of what they consider a state of Palestine.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and so we've got a FOIA request out. We're going to get to the bottom of this. It's going to the FBI. I mean, I'm sure that they will sit on it on this administration, but Jeff, hopefully, In the coming administration with Kash Patel at the helm and new leadership, we'll be able to actually find out what is going on within the Federal Bureau of Investigation when they so cavalierly announce someone as being from a place that the U.S. does not officially recognize as the state of Palestine, but they are clearly dishing out statehood at the FBI here in the last few weeks of the Biden administration. What are your thoughts on it when you saw it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank God that we are taking this to a foyer and trying to dig up what lies underneath this. Because, you know, from the beginning of this administration, Team Biden has done everything it could to claim it's friendly to Israel, but undermine Israel's sovereignty, push for the idea of a Palestinian state there has never been, and God willing, there never will be. a state of Palestine. It's a terrible idea. It was an idea that Israel was pressured into to even go through negotiations. And the Palestinian Authority, which is legally just a successor to the PLO, a terrorist organization, has never dropped its actual behavior as a terrorist organization. And to recognize them as a state is not only illegal, it's not only against American law. It is a way to incite violence and hostility around the world against the country that is Israel. And so, yeah, it's a disaster. I'm very glad that the ACLJ jumped on this. And yes, people didn't hear about it so much in Israel yet, because there's so much else going on here. But it's necessary to find this out. It's necessary to uproot this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and Jeff, what's so shocking to me about it, and as someone who follows this closely, when I saw the clip, I actually started digging to make sure it was, one, not AI, because it's an announcer's voice. And so did someone create some misinformation to try to stir something up? Or did this happen years ago and no one just saw it? No, it was when I saw it had happened the afternoon prior. And to me, it raises so many questions because we know what the Obama administration did when they stabbed Israel in the back on their way out the door when President-elect Trump was coming in 2017, where they abstained from a vote in the UN General Assembly that was trying to recognize the Palestinians as an observer state. Now you look at this, and we have been talking about what kind of bad moves are going to come out against Israel. We've seen quite a few, but... To me, it was more shocking that that was said from the MC, which was reading from a script. So who wrote it? And two, that there wasn't even like a grimace on Chris Ray's face when that was announced that way. Everyone just seemed okay with the way the language was being used. And I think that speaks to a larger problem that we need to be looking at and rooting out within holdovers, within bureaucrats that are embedded there, because the ideology is no longer we really want a two-state solution and this pipe dream that we can achieve that with peace and equal territory and whatnot. But that it appears people within the U.S. government already believe there is a Palestinian state and are okay with calling it that in official ceremonies.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're making a very important point, William, which is exactly right. Part of this is, it could be malice, people who are trying to undermine the federal government and American law by creating a state de facto. But it could be that people just believe there is such a thing. If you go on social media, so many people talk about Israel-Palestine as though there's such a thing as a state of Palestine. People on Capitol Hill, talk about Palestine as though it's a country or it's a state. It's not. There's the Palestinian Authority. Again, the Palestinian Authority is a successor legal entity to the PLO, a terrorist organization that has been given control over vast swaths of Judea and Samaria. And yes, there is some, there has to be some balance of security cooperation between the Israelis and the Palestinian Authority. But at the same token, In Israel, what the news really is here that you don't hear about there so much is the rash and the huge increase in Palestinian versus Palestinian, meaning Judea and Samaria, the Arabs killing each other now, as right now, including members of the same security forces, which America has been training, which America has been arming. And now apparently, which America is educating and giving awards to or diplomas to at the FBI. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Jeff, I want to bring up something you and I talked about actually before the show today is that the world looks on and they see the weakening of Iran. We see Hamas being decimated. Yes, they're still fighting between Israel and Hamas right now, but Israel is not subject to the types of rocket attacks from Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas that they have been over the past years. And then you see the leadership of Hezbollah taken out. You see that Israel was able to go in and get rid of a lot of strategic Assad regime sites so that whatever the future of that country, failed state may be that there is a security buffer there for the Israelis. But one group that hasn't been talked about as much are the Houthis in Yemen, which is still an Iranian proxy, which has been firing directly at Jerusalem where you are over the past several days. Could you give our audience and listeners a little bit of an update on what's going on? Because it's sometimes easy to forget that with all these proxies falling, that there's still very real danger for the citizens of Israel, even to this day.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that's true. And, you know, people are thinking right now that they've really degraded the ability of Israel's enemies to launch weapons into Israeli civilian areas, because let's face it, the world yells about Israel, but they take for granted that it's OK that on all these different, all these different entities and groups have been firing missiles, rockets into Israel's population centers. And there's always been a thesis that, well, they avoid Jerusalem, A, because of the very large Arab Muslim population, B, because some of Islam's self-proclaimed holiest sites are here, like on the Temple Mount, where they have two major holy sites on the Temple Mount. the Al-Aqsa Moqs and the Dome of the Rock. And so people assume they wouldn't, but that's not true. Of course they'll fire at this because it seems that the one religious principle for many of these groups above all else is the genocide of the Jews. And so on Thursday, I believe it was, shortly after it got off the air with you, we had alarms here in Jerusalem in my building. We were told to go to the bomb shelter. And then there was the all clear about 15 minutes, 10 minutes later. And when we first walked out, we were told what was a false alarm. And then we found out later it wasn't a false alarm. Again, earlier today, the same thing happened. Missiles were launched from Houthi territory, from Yemen. And the alarms are actually given because Israel tries to and successfully has shot them down in air. But what that also means is that fragments can land. So number one, where they're coming from Yemen, it's a very long distance. They're trying to estimate, they're trying to be very careful when they put sirens here, which neighborhood, like within square blocks, rockets are going to land. When it comes to this, they have to do large areas. So today, the sirens were all across the center of Israel, like everywhere. But some of the fragments actually landed here in North Jerusalem. Thank God nobody was hurt. And last time, again, they blew it out of the sky. But yes, it's still a war zone, even in the major civilian population centers in Israel.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jeff, thank you so much for joining us. I want to give you a minute also. Stick around. We've got one minute left here. And just a moment, as we are telling people, it's the last two weeks of the year from fundraising. It's the end of our Faith and Freedom year in drive. The ACLJ Jerusalem is there at a very important time. And these are the reasons, because we're making sure we are on top of things that are even American-centered there in Jerusalem, like what we saw earlier.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, look, it's obviously, I do this with ACLJ, by ACLJ, as ACLJ Jerusalem, because I believe that ACLJ plays a really unique role of all of the organizations that I'm aware of, in and out of Washington and out of the media for a very long time. In terms of, and you just look at the kind of people who join with us when they cycled out of the last Trump administration. The fact that we had the former Secretary of State, the fact that we had Rick Grinnell, who, by the way, is now the man with the coolest title in all of Washington. right right uh tulsi gabbard others uh the fact that they officially uh come with us and work with us it's because this is not just uh you know it's supposed to be a law firm but it's so much more than that absolutely jeff thank you so much we're gonna head to heartbreakaclj.org thanks for joining us
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back to Secular. We're still taking your calls at 1-800-684-3110. We've got a few lines open. If you've ever wanted to be on the show, this is a great time to call, but this is also kind of the last chance to call. 1-800-684-3110. Ronald's calling from South Carolina. Let's go ahead and take Ronald, who watches on Rumble. We love his calls. Ronald, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, yes. Thanks for taking my call. The question I had was about the settlement. Does Trump have to take the settlement, or could he still go through with the suit and sue for more?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, Ronald, they have settled, so that puts an end to the lawsuit.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. He could have. not taking the settlement and move forward it wasn't imposed upon him that this is the settlement but uh the attorneys in a settlement they get together like let's try to avoid moving forward let's negotiate judges like it when you do that because it clears up the docket it doesn't have to go forward with a full thing uh but so they came to an agreement and this was the agreement between the two parties 15 million that goes to the presidential foundation and museum to be established by or for the plaintiff which is by the way
SPEAKER 07 :
A typical Trump, pretty hilarious move. Right. Very funny moment to kind of be like, fine, ABC News is going to pay for my presidential library, essentially my monument to myself.
SPEAKER 11 :
And then also there is an additional million dollars in attorney's fees. So it's actually a $16 million settlement. But the $15 million is what the big meat of that is. And so, no, he didn't have to take it. The attorneys didn't have to take it. But when you have the opportunity to get also ABC to admit wrongdoing and pay a settlement and get that headline instead of continuing to pay for legal work and fighting that out i mean he's going to be a busy man and i mean already is but coming up um yeah i feel like he was probably in the best interest of his legal team as well to be like we're gonna have a lot of other fights everyone want to wrap it up that they're ready to end this yeah let's do it and go forward so hopefully that answers your question ronald it was it was a settlement between the two parties not just a imposed you have to do this that was abc news but also you flip over to cnn they had kind of an update here
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This one was pretty interesting and we're going to briefly talk about it. I'm sure Jordan and the team and you will talk about it later on this week as well. Oh yeah, this is my, by the way, I'm not going anywhere. This is just my last day before my vacation, before my break. So, you know, enjoy the rest of your time with Jordan and the team. They're going to have a great time. You're going to have a great shows coming up. But I did want to briefly talk about this as we do discuss the media quite a bit.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. And we can play a short clip of this. This was CNN's Clarissa Ward, who is known for being kind of their war correspondent. One of the best of the best, yeah. She was in Ukraine and did great reporting there and was on the ground immediately in Syria after the fall of Assad.
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And so this... By the way, I take nothing away from her in this situation in many ways because you're putting a very...
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uh peculiar situation but she's clearly been a very brave journalist over the decades that she's been working so i don't want to to defame her in that sense but this is a very cnn moment yeah so they're here we'll play a short clip of it but essentially they found a secret prison they were with uh rebel escorts and found a secret prison and there was a surprise prisoner left over we'll play this clip and then we'll give some of the revelations that have come to light after this reporting so let's go ahead and play bite one
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I can't tell though, it might just be a blanket. But it's the only cell that's locked.
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Is he gonna shoot it? Oh, it moved.
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Is there someone there? I thought he thought it moved. Is someone there?
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You're okay, you're okay.
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Mike. You're okay.
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Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Okay, it's water.
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So this was a prisoner in a secret prison that all the other prisoners had been let free.
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It claimed he had no food and water for multiple days. And red flags started to go up immediately. People started going, this feels odd. They had to shoot off the lock, but he still didn't get stirred from that.
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And then also he had been in there without sunlight for months, but yet he was still kind of well-kempt in some ways. I mean, maybe not perfectly healthy, but looked fine. decently well for what you'd expect out of a secret Syrian prison well it turns out after a lot of ridicule from even like Mediaite who's not known for being necessarily unfair to CNN Mediaite kind of was picking it apart but it turns out Verify Psy, which is a fact-checking organization that was created specifically to look at the Syrian war in 2016 is when this organization, they're kind of vetting footage and videos that come out to kind of put a tamper on on propaganda that may come out this individual who was liberated on that day with cnn was actually a part of the assad regime so it wasn't a rebel that was kept in captivity and it turns out that his name is salama muhammad salama He was a first lieutenant in the Syrian Air Force Intelligence, notorious for his activities in Homs, and resident of the Al Bayada neighborhood. They identified him that he was frequently stationed at a checkpoint in the area's western entrance, famous for its abuses, including theft, extortion, coercion of residents, and torture. So CNN... put out this piece where they were almost seen as like look we're liberating someone who turns out may have been not the type of person that they would be praising that they liberated as they were celebrating the fall of Assad best case scenario they freed someone who was doing horrible things for the other side of which they like worse or the other option is this was all performance
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And I think we're going to find out more. CNN and the Daily Mail have both said they're going to launch an internal investigation. As they should. So we got to be careful what you put on the air before you go to air. Let's go ahead and take another call. Michelle's calling in California on line one. ACLJ champion, you're up.
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Hi. Okay. So I wanted to give a congratulations to Rick and his new position. And the ad that you put out for the Pregnancy Center is wonderful. And you guys are spending my money wisely. So thank you.
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Michelle, thank you so much. Of course, Michelle is an ACLJ champion. That's someone that gives on a recurring basis automatically. So that means someone who's just giving a certain amount of money each month, essentially almost like a membership program. fee if you will but it's a donation each month the aclj you can set that up very easily at aclj.org when you're making your donation you just opt in and become an aclj champion uh we love our aclj champions people approach us on the streets and say i'm a champion i love that so much when i hear from them uh so again thanks to michelle and so many people who are joining us uh in this journey towards the end of the year here as we are in that faith and freedom year-end drive be a part of that right now all you got to do is go to aclj.org scan that qr code and i love tracking in this hour Because we can kind of tell, what did you react to or what did you not react to? And of course we have that new pro-life campaign, Choice Begins Here. And I'll be honest, I want to see more people show an interest in that one because I think it's going to make a huge impact. And it's creative and it's a little different. So I know that. Again, we're trying to raise $500,000 to blanket the city of Boston and the surrounding areas for this option to hopefully save these pro-life pregnancy resource centers. So do that today. Go to aclj.org. I also wanted to quickly say, Quickly say our film, our Christmas movie last year, Jingle Smells, our Christmas comedy for the whole family when we did it. And Sean Hannity was one of the executive producers as well. Stars John Schneider, Eric Roberts, Dylan Hornswoggle Postal, SNL. We're in the SNL 50th anniversary. So we got Jim Brewer and Victoria Jackson. Of course, Ben Davies from The Daily Wire. great cast and a lot of fun will haynes is in it i'm briefly in it you hear my voice a few times it is available now brad stein incredible uh comedic actor and stand-up comedian an awesome lineup of people and it's a really funny movie i co-wrote it with one of our team members and will also contributed a lot to sort of the funny part specifically that victoria jackson moment you'll see during the movie It's a great movie to watch right now around the holidays. And what's also really cool, and we're able to say this, is available for free right now on Tubi. That's one of the top streaming services. All you gotta do is really, a lot of them talk in your remote. Say you want Jingle Smells, it'll come up absolutely free on Tubi and on the Roku channel. You can rent it as well on a few different streaming options, Fandango at home, and on our platform from last year, Rumble. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Join us on this episode of Washington Watch as guest host Jody Heiss navigates through a myriad of pressing issues affecting our nation today. In an impactful opening, he reflects on the tragic school shooting in Madison, Wisconsin, and leads a call for prayer and healing. As we delve into governmental affairs, Congressman Chuck Fleischman provides insights into the USA's ongoing struggles with budget appropriations and the looming threat of a government shutdown.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, welcome to this Monday edition of Washington Watch. I hope you had a fantastic weekend. I am Jody Heiss, the Senior Vice President here at the Family Research Council and President of FRC Action. It's a tremendous honor, as always, when able to, to fill in for Tony. Thank you so much for joining us today as well. And certainly before we begin, I want to encourage everyone who's watching and listening to the program right now just to join me in praying for the community of Madison, Wisconsin, where details of yet another school shooting earlier this morning are even still unfolding.
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Today, around 1057 a.m., our officers were responding to a call of an active shooter at the Abundant Life Christian School here in Madison. When officers arrived, they found multiple victims suffering from gunshot wounds.
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That was Madison, Wisconsin Police Chief Shawn Barnes speaking today at a press conference. And if we could, even right now, let's just take a moment to pray for this situation. Lord, you know what's happening right now in Madison, Wisconsin and the broken hearts, the lives that are absolutely shattered. by this yet another vicious mass murder. And Lord, we pray for the families involved. We pray for this community. We pray that the presence of God would be real and intervene in their behalf. And Lord, we just recognize all across this country the deep need for you. And so we pray, Father, for an outpouring of your spirit upon this country, and particularly right now for those in Madison, Wisconsin. Show yourself strong in their behalf, we pray in Jesus' name. Amen. As I said, details of that tragedy continue to unfold, but we want to pray for them and encourage you to do the same. All right, we've got a lot coming up on the program today. We're going to start with the text of a stopgap measure to fund the government. It was expected today, but at least as of a few moments ago, it still has not been released. And yet we're just days away from a potential government shutdown. So what's the holdup? I'll be joined here in just a few moments with Congressman Chuck Fleischman, a member of the House Appropriations Committee, to discuss that. And President-elect Trump held a press conference today and was asked about a number of items, including the mysterious drones that have now been spotted flying over New Jersey and New York and elsewhere across the country.
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Our military knows and our president knows, and for some reason they want to keep people in suspense. I can't imagine it's the enemy because if it was the enemy, they'd blast it out. Even if they were late, they'd blast it out. something strange is going on for some reason they don't want to tell the people
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the Biden administration continues to insist that there is no threat and no nefarious activity related to the drones, and yet they continue not to provide any more details to anyone, including lawmakers. And given the dangerous times in which we live, is our government responding appropriately to all of this? Or are we inviting bad actors who will have nefarious motives? Well, we'll be discussing this later when I'm joined by Gordon Chang, so you don't want to miss that. And speaking of bad actors, there's concern that a hole left behind by the collapse of brutal Assad regime in Syria could be filled by terrorist groups, including ISIS.
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ISIS fighters are killing machines. They want to purify our Islam. They want to take down the King of Jordan, the King of Saudi Arabia. They want to replace the UAE with a theocracy. You don't want these people in charge of the Mideast.
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That was Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina yesterday on NBC's Meet the Press. So what sorts of threats do the Islamist rebel forces pose to the people of Syria, including, of course, the Christians who are there? Well, Jeff King of International Christian Concern will be joining me to discuss that. in a little bit as we get into the program a little bit later and then there's some pleasant news coming from the washington post editorial board if you can believe that they have admitted that the so-called science behind puberty blockers and hormones for minors suffering from gender dysphoria is not clear at all so what are we to make of all of this Well, Dr. Quentin Van Meter of the American College of Pediatricians will join me for that discussion. So as always, we've got a lot coming your way. And of course, as always, you don't want to miss any of it. But I know sometimes things happen. And if by chance you do miss a portion of this program, you can go back and catch it at our website, TonyPerkins.com. Of course, not only this edition of Washington Watch, but tons of other past editions also available for you, as well as lots and lots of resources. So be sure to bookmark that page, tonyperkins.com. All right, let's jump into the details of today's program. And we're going to begin with the mysterious drones that have been flying over New Jersey, New York, and other places across the country. They certainly have captured the attention of many. Is there a potential threat? Is it coming from Washington? Who knows what's going on? But we also have another looming problem. a potential government shutdown, and that's to take place potentially on Friday. The text of the continuing resolution for the funding package was expected today, but at least as of just a little while ago, it still has not come through. And reportedly, that's because of the late round haggling that's taking place. So where do things stand right now? Well, here to give us the latest is Congressman Chuck Fleischman, who serves on the House Appropriations Committee and the Committee on Science, Space and Technology. He represents the third congressional district of the great state of Tennessee. Congressman Fleischman, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always great to see you, my friend.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, Jody. Nice to see you. Merry Christmas. Thank you for your kind, kind prayer, thoughtful prayer for the school in Wisconsin. Our prayers go out to those people. My sons were all privileged to go to private Christian schools in Chattanooga. They were great schools. We want our children to be safe. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, we do. And thank you for joining us in that prayer. And look, it's happened in Tennessee. It's happened in my home state of Georgia. It seems like more and more of these type of tragedies are occurring, and we must have the good hand of God in all of this. Thank you for your comments. Now, let's talk about some of the other chatter that's taking place in Washington, D.C. right now, specifically as it relates to the continuing resolution. What's the latest that you're hearing?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, right now, they've bogged down in some very important details. Jody, putting this in context, the fiscal year for the United States began October 1st of this year. At that time, we kept the government open and passed a continuing resolution, kept the government open until December the 20th. We are currently working on a continuing resolution that will give President Trump time in March to basically work out a full funding deal to September 30th, the end of the next fiscal year, fiscal 25. What has happened, candidly, Jody, is that the supplemental, that disaster supplemental, which needs to be passed and funded, has bogged down largely due to the agricultural portion of that. Folks in farming states, understandably so, want to make sure that in addition to the forest fires, in addition to the flooding that we saw in your great state of Georgia and my great state of Tennessee in North Carolina, that there be a portion of that bill dedicated to our nation's farmers who are hurting right now in many ways. And those are where we've bogged down. I thought that we would have text of a bill candidly by Sunday night that could have gotten us out of Washington, D.C. and back into our districts for Christmas by Wednesday. Now, with no bill there, it's looking more like late Thursday or Friday. Under our rules, we've got to have three days to obviously read the bill, interpret the bill. and then ultimately vote on it. So we've just hit loggerheads right now. We will get it done. We will keep the government open and hopefully give President Trump and the new administration an opportunity to look at the bill so that we can vote on a full package in March.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that's your expectation, then, that later on in the week, originally you had hoped by Wednesday. And look, we were all expecting the text of the bill to come out. In fact, I kept telling our team, surely it's coming today. We'll just hang on. And I said, if anybody knows, Chuck will know what the latest is with all of this. But do you expect, then, that now it's going to be Thursday or Friday before a vote comes to the floor? If that happens, obviously the text still has to come on out tonight or tomorrow.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's correct. A lot of the bill where there are agreements is already written, Jody, and that part is good. But this is a little bit different than the usual continuing resolution because it's got a very large disaster supplemental attached to it. That's going to make it easier for some members to vote for it. I understand that. But once they get final agreement, they will actually have to draft the actual final bill, post it, and give all members under House rules an opportunity to actually read it, go through it, comment on it, and then... ideal, probably Thursday, maybe potentially Friday now. Obviously, we want to get it done before the 20th. No one in this city wants to see a government shutdown. There won't be a government shutdown. But the reality is we're going to have to get it done. And it's just going to take longer due to the magnitude of the supplemental for disaster relief.
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Well, I had alluded to this coming into the program in the opening monologue and some comments, but Speaker Johnson and Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, from my understanding at least, they both have been urged to include a measure in this CR that addresses the recent drone sightings. And I think that obviously speaks to the bipartisan dissatisfaction that everyone seems to have towards the government. What do you make of the response? Is that going to happen?
SPEAKER 05 :
The question is time. Homeland Security is one of the bills of the 12 appropriation bills where something could be put in for that, potentially under defense, but probably Homeland Security. As you know, Jody, I chair the Energy and Water Subcommittee of Appropriations, funds the Department of Energy, the Army Corps of Engineers, and the Bureau of Reclamation. There's not a lot of drama right there. Ours is largely done, but there could be something put in once again the enemy becomes the clock time. We've got to get something done sooner than later so that we can keep the government open, get everything funded, and then move on into the next year, next calendar year, at which time President Trump and his folks will be able to look at this with the new House, with the new Senate, and hopefully get it voted on for the rest of the fiscal bill until September 30th.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's a very interesting process that's taking place. It seems like, you know, and I've been there too, it seems like this always seems to happen right before Christmas. But the outcome should be vastly different this go-around, and we're certainly praying for you and all your colleagues there, both in the House and the Senate. Thank you so much, Congressman Chuck Fleischman of Tennessee. Always an honor to see you, and glad to have you back on Washington Watch. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
SPEAKER 05 :
Jody, my friend, thank you. It's a privilege to serve with you when you served. It's great to have you at the Family Research Council. Tony and your organization are incredible. Thank you for your strong biblical commitment to everything. And I mean to everything. Thank you so much. Merry Christmas.
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Merry Christmas. All right, friends, much more after the break, all about what's happening in our world. How do we deal with it? So stay tuned. We'll be back in a moment.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to have you joining us today. All right, during the Biden administration, we have most certainly seen a significant increase in conflicts, the escalation of conflicts all around the world, prompting many fears, literally, about a potential World War III. And while we also saw a decisive victory for President-elect Trump last month, and that has given many Americans at least a breath of relief, we're certainly not out of the water. I mean, the axis of autocracies led by places like Russia and China, Iran, North Korea, they continue to challenge the democratic world order. And the sudden collapse now of the brutal Assad regime in Syria has highlighted really how interconnected a growing number of global conflicts really are. And even, we've talked about it already, but the appearance of all these mystery drones across the Northeast and other places have people whispering about some involvement from Iran. So what are we to make of all this? Well, joining me now to discuss this is Gordon Chang. He is a distinguished senior fellow at the Gatestone Institute and author of many books, including his latest, Plan Red, China's Project to Destroy America. You, of course, can follow him on X under the handle at Gordon G. Chang. We encourage you to do so. Gordon, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always great to have you. Well, thank you so much, Jody. All right, so how dangerous is the world? How dangerous are the times in which we're living right now?
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This could very well be the most dangerous moment in history. A lot of people will say that was 1962, the Cuban Missile Crisis, or 1961, the Checkpoint Charlie Crisis in Berlin. But we know from the archives that neither Kennedy nor Khrushchev were willing to use their most dangerous weapons. Now, we don't know that about Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin. And we are seeing a very bold Chinese regime, for instance, and a very bold Russian one. So yes, the world is falling apart and they fell apart under Biden's watch because he did not understand the use of American power. And by the way, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, yes, they're evil.
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Yeah, and when you say the world, in essence, it's on fire. I mean, it really is. You watch it, all these countries that are flexing their muscles, and none of them really would lead in a place that is for the well-being of humanity as a whole. And then we have Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell made waves, frankly, last week when seem to at least indicate President-elect Trump's First America slogan was somehow tied to the 1930s before World War II. So what do you make of those kind of comments, especially at such a time as this?
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Well, obviously, those policies that sounded good to the ear and, you know, Biden talks about cooperation, friendliness, trying to find ways where we can work with China. Those policies, even though they are soothing, they have created one disaster after another. And when you look at what Mitch McConnell said, you know, it is, again, a failure of the American elites to protect the American people. And now, Jody, I think that it's possible that the axis of evil has brought the fight to the United States, because we're talking about drones. And we don't know yet whether those drones are foreign or not. Yes, I know the Pentagon says that they're not, but there are a number of people in the Air Force, for instance, who believe that a majority of those drones are being operated by foreign powers.
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Yeah, and I'm glad you brought this up because I wanted to bounce this off you, these drones. I mean, we saw one of our own crucial air forces close for several hours the other day because of the drone activity that was taking place. So what do you make of these drones? And how should our government be handling this situation?
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Well, first of all, there's two alternative explanations. One of them is that these are operated by foreigners. If that's not true, then it's even more ominous because they're operated by the U.S. government. Because these are too big, they are too sophisticated to be operated by hobbyists. Then the question is, what is the federal government doing with these drones? And we have seen, for instance, those two radiation spikes that have been reported in the New York metropolitan area, one in New York City, the other just across the Hudson River in New Jersey. And that leads us to believe that maybe the federal government is looking for a nuclear weapon that has been planted there by a terrorist state or somebody. We don't know that, but one thing we do know, and that is that for more than a decade, the federal government has been worried about this very scenario, about North Korea in particular, taking a nuclear device, tearing it apart, smuggling in the portions of it into the U.S., and then reassembling it in the city of their choice. So that's very well what the federal government may be doing. Whether you believe these are foreign or whether these are DHS or CIA or FBI, there are no good explanations for what's occurring.
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Yeah, absolutely. And we saw, of course, a similar, if you will, response previously with the Chinese spy balloon that floated across the US. But looking at that versus this, should we be concerned that at least our adversaries are watching the response of the American people to these drones right now, and maybe they're seeing an opportunity?
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Well, clearly China saw the failure of not only the U.S. military, but also President Biden and his national security team to the balloon in January and February of last year. Just a non-response. And so I think China then said, well, look what it could do if it tried something else. And so we've seen a lot of drone penetrations of U.S. military bases by Chinese nationals. So I think Beijing learned a lesson there. And right now, God knows what's occurring. But the point here is that the federal government needs to talk to the American people. I believe President Biden needs to address the American people and tell us what he knows and what he doesn't know. And he has to understand this. Yeah, it might cause panic, but I also think the American people are mature enough to understand what's going on. In the absence of information, we have to assume the worst. We need to have the President of the United States talk to us.
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And there's panic being created by the silence as well. And if it's a classified operation, just say so. It's classified, but you don't need to be fearful. We're just doing some, it's a classified mission we're involved in. You know, whatever, but the silence is unacceptable. Thank you, Gordon Chang, Senior Fellow at the Gatestone Institute. Always an honor to have you on Washington Watch. It's an honor for me to be here, and thank you so much, Jody. Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you. All right, don't go anywhere. We'll take a look at the situation facing Syrian Christians after the stunning fall of Assad. Well, that's coming on the other side of the break, so stay tuned.
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Thank you so much for joining us today on Washington Watch. Welcome back. I'm Jody Heiss. Honored to be filling in today for Tony. All right. Earlier this morning, a telegram message purportedly from deposed Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad claimed that his departure from Syria was neither planned nor did it occur during the final hours of the battles. Assad, by the way, as you may recall, fled into the arms of Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow earlier this month. It all came about when his regime collapsed. In fact, it collapsed with stunning speed, quite frankly, much to the shock of the international community. But with Syria now in a state of chaos, where does that leave Syrian Christians who are still in that country? Well, joining me now to discuss this is Jeff King. He's the president of International Christian Concern. Jeff, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always an honor to have you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good to be with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so let's start with just reminding our audience just how big the Christian community was, at least, let me put it that way, how big the Christian community was in Syria before Assad's fall.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I can't remember the exact number, but it was massive. It's been probably about an 80% reduction. So it used to be the safe haven for Christians in the Middle East. He's a tough dictator, nasty, but the Christians were protected there, and there's been a massive fleeing of Christians.
SPEAKER 08 :
So whatever that number was, as you said, and that's why I wanted to bring it up because this was kind of a safe haven area for Christians. Did I hear you correctly that some 80% of those Christians, or at least it's expected that up to that number have fled?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think so. Yeah. And that kind of reflects, Jody, the whole picture of the Middle East and with Iraq. Again, this is, you know, this is the birthplace of Christianity. But look, with radicals, you know, free to do what they want and war and with Christians without protection, you know, they have a lot of connections around the world. So the ones that can flee do.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that would say to me, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm just trying to connect dots right along with so many others, and you probably have more information than anyone else I know on this issue. But if you have 80%, give or take, of the Christians who are in Syria who have already or are in process of leaving, that would say to me, are fearful for their lives with the new power that is coming into place there. So are you at all hopeful about what lies ahead with the Assad regime now history, or is it still a very dangerous place?
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's see, I'm just as hopeful about the situation in Syria as I am about Afghanistan. So Jody, the guys that took over, this is Al-Qaeda and ISIS combined. That's who these guys are. They're radical Islamists. They rebranded and they're very politically savvy. They came out and they said, boy, we're gonna be good boys and girls. And this, we're all about being modern and tolerant. I don't believe it for a second. The leopard doesn't change its spots. These guys are radical Islamists. They are interested in only one thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that would explain why so many Christians are fleeing. So they, as you say, they're saying perhaps the right things, but do we have, maybe from historical background, is there any indication whatsoever as to how the rebel leader, Abu Muhammad al-Jilani, is there any indication as to how he might deal with Christians there?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and just to clarify, that 80% figure, I'm looking back over the course of the last 14 years, you know, since the Civil War started. So just make sure everybody understands. And the only thing I say is with the leader, the leader is he's put forward as the spokesman and the political operative, but his views aren't going to differ from the group as a whole. So again, these guys are very savvy, so they know what to say. They don't want to be attacked. They've just taken power, very fragile hold on power. Israel is attacking, you know, we're attacking, so they're going to keep their head low and say the right things. But there's no indication that these guys are going to be pleasant or at all safe in terms of the Christians.
SPEAKER 08 :
So you don't think that the Christians are likely to have a haven there any longer in the future?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, definitely not.
SPEAKER 08 :
How does the upcoming Trump administration fit into all of this, as far as you would guess?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it's a very complicated question even before Trump, because with wars, they take a massive amount of money and training and material. So these things, these movements, they don't just spring up out of the blue. Even the first war, these were foreign fighters, and they were unleashed, at least originally, to topple the Assad regime. It was in our interest to topple the Assad regime and to break Iran's hold on the region. So it was already interesting. We wanted Assad to fall. We wanted to break Russia's hold on power, which now that's happened. So it was already interesting before Trump, and now he's got such an anti-war stance, but this is an untenable situation. My guess is we're gonna slowly clean up and push these guys out, but it's gonna be long and interesting.
SPEAKER 08 :
very messy real quickly we've only got about uh 30 seconds or so how can we be praying for and assisting for that matter our syrian brothers and sisters in the lord
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, well, Christians have fled already. Some Christians have fled. So the broad Arab population, the Syrian population, is relieved to have Assad gone, but they are terrified. And so we're, you know, us and other groups, we're, you know, forming a war chest to get people out. We've already had to get people out and to provide emergency relief. So go to persecution.org.
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All right. Thank you, Jeff King, president of International Christian Concern, persecution.org. Merry Christmas to you. Thank you for joining us on Washington Watch. You too, sir. All right, friends, don't go anywhere. Washington Post, the Washington Post editorial board, boy, they've had an about face on this whole trans issue, and we want to discuss more of that right after the break, so don't go anywhere.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome back to Washington Watch. An honor to have you joining us today. Thank you so much. All right. Yesterday, the Washington Post editorial board, frankly, did the unthinkable. As I mentioned a while ago, it's like they just had an about face. But they admitted in writing that the so-called science behind puberty blockers and hormones for minors suffering from gender dysphoria is not clear at all. Now that's shocking to say the least, but also it's very welcome. But might we now see others in the media begin to move away from the trans cult and actually speak truth on the issue of gender confusion? We're here now to share some of his thoughts is Dr. Quentin Van Meter. He's the immediate past president of the American College of Pediatricians and now a member of that executive committee. Dr. Van Meter, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Always glad to be here. Good to see you, Jody.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, listen, your reaction, I was kind of stunned by all of this, but what was your reaction to the Washington Post editorial column?
SPEAKER 10 :
I didn't believe it was the Washington Post. I thought I was reading a reasonable publication that sort of spoke the truth and didn't have an agenda behind it. So it was very welcome. I mean, from beginning of their editorial to the end, they essentially spoke spoke the truth. They indicated that they had agreed that the science wasn't there, that this direction perhaps was not the direction that we should be doing medical care in the United States with these kids who have confusion between their gender identity and their biologic sex. And so it comes out of, I think, a realization that the rest of the world is going in a correct direction and protecting these kids who are suffering emotionally with this concept in their head, trying to live the life of happiness but not finding it in their current situation and grasping at straws for someplace to go to be happy without realizing that the issue is deep inside of them and it's depression and it's anxiety and it's founded in a number of things which had been previously glossed over by those advocates who wish to intervene and essentially create a new persona, somebody who appears to be the opposite sex from their biologic sex. And so it's it's like a big breath of fresh air. It follows the rest of the world in finding this out. Those progressive countries in Europe in particular who are 10 years ahead of us in this experimentation on children and found out with their evaluations that there was no reason to continue blocking puberty and giving cross-sex hormones and then eventually doing surgical interventions, which forever scar the body.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's exceptionally well said. Everything you just laid out before us there. And of course, at the end of the day, this is a spiritual problem. When you talk about the depression and all the other things, and you can't fix that by making matters worse, by doing these kind of horrible, radical surgeries and so forth. So I'd like to, I don't want to go there just yet, but I'd really like to know your thoughts as to why the seeming shift is taking place. And maybe you alluded to it when you were talking about Europe and some other countries, because the column that we referenced did bring up some of these other European health authorities and the assessments that they have come up with. So why don't we just start there? What did they all seem to conclude that so many here in America were just unwilling to admit?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think Europe has always been focused on some semblance of science. They have a bureaucracy which reviews and allows medications to be used within the European Union healthcare countries. And so it's essentially the equivalent of the FDA, which we have here. And I think they heard some echoes from some pretty impressive people. The UK health system was embroiled in a lawsuit about three or four years ago from a patient at the Tavistock Clinic who sued Cara Bell as that individual. And I think that woke them up to say, well, wait a minute, if there is a lawsuit, we'd better be on the right side of that case. And they started looking at the data from the Tavistock Clinic in the UK and said, oh, my gosh, look what we found. And then we started having some defections from the UK, the system, the people who quit, who said this was not going in the right direction. It was really taking these kids into task and possibly hurting them instead of benefiting them. And that kind of dialogue in the background got the sort of the governmental agencies that run these health care systems and these socialized medicine countries to say, wait a minute, are we on the right side of the issue here? Perhaps we should go look deeply, and they did. So I think theirs was more of an administrative review. Here in the United States, I think it's the legal battles which are now beginning to come forth with the Folks, these kids who were transitioned both medically and surgically as minors here in the country, who are now speaking up and bringing lawsuits against not only the physicians that did this to them, but the health care systems that support those physicians. And in some cases, it may expand to the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical companies who have facilitated this kind of thing happening, wittingly or unwittingly. And so I think that is where in the U.S. we're seeing is the litigation that's ahead and the fear of these educational institutions and the suit lawsuits in Texas with the attorney general suing the individuals who have been doing this under the radar in the in the in the state of Texas. This becomes an issue where it says, oh, my gosh, We're going to see more and more of these lawsuits, and we better maybe rethink what we're doing. So I think it's the money here.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very interesting. When you first said a little while ago that Europe always seems to at least had some semblance of desire to embrace science, my first thoughts were, well, we used to have that here in the United States. Where did that ever come from? go, where do we drop the ball on that? But I agree with you. Europe has tended to remain more scientifically focused. But a great observation that here the change in the United States seems to be taking place not because of the science, but because of the legal battles and the litigation, which is you referenced ultimately comes down to the money. Are we that corrupt? Are we that morally just so backward that all of this still in America, most of it at least, is a result of following the money trail rather than the science and that which is really in the best interest of children?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think what happened here also is it became a political football, sort of a civil rights issue, if you will, based on something that really is not genetically predetermined. Unlike race, unlike sex, which is it's in the genes, you cannot hold somebody accountable for something where they are born in an identity that is based on biology. This was all about a manufactured, non-biologic entity called gender identity. And that became a cause celebre as a civil rights issue, saying these kids must be protected. They must be treated with respect for their gender identity because that's the real issue, not their biologic sex. And the cases all the way up to the Supreme Court, the Bostock decision in particular, there was confusion about whether or not gender identity actually had biologic basis. And the one jurist on the Supreme Court who didn't understand that was Gorsuch, who voted for the Bostock decision based on really something that I don't believe he understood. I don't know Justice Gorsuch personally, have no bone to pick other than from the outside it appears as if he really believed there was a biologic basis to this. And it's sort of in front of the Supreme Court with a decision against Tennessee and their law with the Scrimetian case in action right now. There just has to be understanding this was not biology, this is not civil rights, this is not discrimination to not want to have these kids get these things done to them. It's a lifesaving circumstance to keep them from harm that runs the motivation for us on this issue. We cherish these children. We care for them. We're compassionate about their outcomes, but we know the right answer. And that is counseling, counseling, counseling, right down to the root of the problem, as opposed to putting a Band-Aid over a volcano and hoping that it stays quiet.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely, and it is exceedingly frightening to take your assessment there, which I think is 100% accurate, by the way, and look at where this type of mindset can take us. When considering why the American medical community has embraced all these gender-denying treatments so blindly, and you come to the conclusion that it's all politically driven, or financially driven, where does that type of nonsense end? I mean, if we, for political reasons, for financial reasons, if we can no longer tell the difference between a man and a woman, if we can no longer believe that you are born either male or female and you can't change that and for political or financial reasons, we're gonna tell people that you can change your gender, you can think otherwise than what you are and that's okay and it's some sort of discriminatory action to do otherwise. Where does that type of thing take us if we kick science out of the room?
SPEAKER 10 :
It's somewhat laughable to think that you can just decide who you are because of what you want to be. Life doesn't work that way. I am not a 35-year-old bodybuilder, okay? I am a much older gentleman who realizes where I am physically and who I am physically to say, I can't just declare. I might say that I'm, in terms of any law that is based on age, I might be able to just deny that and say I'm something else. I mean, it's a little ludicrous to think you could do that with your biologic sex and say, I don't want to be the sex I am. Therefore, I declare I am the opposite sex and you'll have to give me all the attributes and privileges thereof. It doesn't work that way. So it's a ruse and it's a sad thing to do to these poor kids who really are crying for help. There's no question they're suffering. You know, we get blamed all the time and labeled as anti-trans because of our stance on this issue. And we are so pro these kids. We just are anti-harm. And so that's where we come from as the American College of Pediatricians. We stand so firmly for what is best for children to do no harm to these kids. And we are part of an overarching organization called the Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine, whose entire fiber of being in existence is to promote medicine that does no harm.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, there is absolutely a such thing as truth. And male is male, female is female. That's one of those things that's just true. Along with that, there is a such thing as moral truth. There is a such thing as right, and wrong and the way we treat people is right and wrong the way we are treating these children right or wrong do you believe that somehow in the midst of all of this that somehow science is having an impact or are people just becoming so disgusted with the radical direction that all this is taking us does it seem at the end of the day that more people here in america are catching on to the fallacies of the radical pro-trans ideology
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, clearly, if you look at the statistics during this past election where they said 70% of the American population is not in favor of interventions that try to change somebody's appearance and believe they are the opposite sex. So that came from communication that broke through on the political trail. I mean, I think the political ads of the two candidates for president were night and day different. And I think that resonated with the American people saying, I'm sure there's some science about that, but this at the core level, at just the gut level doesn't feel right. There's something really not right about this. And I'm not, you know, I don't look at the studies. I don't understand the studies, but you know, everyone's saying there are studies that say it's helpful. And then there are people who say that it's harmful, but just the core issue of this ain't right. Okay. And I think that's what woke up the American people.
SPEAKER 08 :
not so much the science but just sort of the moral ethics of it all yeah absolutely i i get it people are waking up to right and wrong certainly at least on this issue it appears to me and you know hopefully that is the beginning of something much much greater and more national as it relates to a spiritual and moral uh awakening and changing the moral climate
SPEAKER 10 :
If you see that the door is opening for people to listen and then people demand that people be able to talk, people be able to publish, people be able to take a stage and not be condemned as racist or bigoted or phobic, then we can listen to the science. We have had the science on our side since square one. We have just been shut out by the major press. We've been shut out by the academic publications. We've been shut out at conferences where we are not allowed to speak or be invited or we're thrown off the campus just because of what we believe is presenting the true science. Now, hopefully, this will begin to thaw and we will be able to talk to each other. I really greatly desire a dialogue in front of an audience of my peers to say, look, this is what we believe, and this is why we believe science, and let the advocates for these interventions come back with their answers, but to have a civil dialogue instead of just having the door shut in your face all the time. So I'm optimistic we're in a good place. We're getting to a good place.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely fascinating discussion. Dr. Quentin Van Meter from the American College of Pediatricians, thank you so much for your incredible work over the years, and thank you for coming on Washington Watch yet again and breaking all this down for us. We appreciate it. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 10 :
We are looking forward to it. Same to you and yours. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 08 :
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Join professional money manager Bill Gundersen for another insightful episode of the Best Stocks Now show. Today, Bill, alongside chartered financial analyst Barry Kite, dives into the current state of the stock market, highlighting significant movements in the NASDAQ, S&P 500, and the intriguing rise of Bitcoin past $105,000. With a focus on upcoming Federal Reserve decisions, the episode analyzes the potential quarter-point rate cut and its anticipated effects on various markets.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Monday. It is the Monday, December 16th edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunnarsson, president of Gunnarsson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kider, chartered financial analyst. The market licking its chops. For our rate cut this week, get better, get one, Jerome. The NASDAQ is up 106 points right now, 20,033. What a trip, what a long, strange trip it's been in the NASDAQ since the big sell-off. back in 2001, 2002. The Dow is up 89 now, gathering a little bit of steam here. We're at 43,917 on the Dow. It has been above 45,000, however. The S&P 500 is up 20 right now. And the small caps are also up. So you've got across the board green in the equities market. Now over at the bond market, You've got a little bit of a rally in the bonds, not much, but the 10-year is up or is down. The interest rate is down a couple of points right now in anticipation, obviously, of a quarter-point rate cut this week. And then you've got Bitcoin above $105,000 right now on a nice rally to a new all-time high. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show. With professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we're here with no bull commentary, right, Barry, on what we observe in the market.
SPEAKER 06 :
The only bull right now is the market, I guess, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, the bull. There is a bull in the market, obviously, but a lot of bull out there in the media these days. We don't know what they are, but we know they're not any threat to us, you know, that kind of thing. All right, so here's where we ended the week last week. We had the NASDAQ up 24 points on Friday. It barely held on to its gains despite a huge day out of Broadcom. Broadcom had a huge day. And you also had a big hike in interest rates last week. You ended the week at 4.40 on the five-year. And we're down a couple of basis points here today. I think the inflation overall when you added the two together, the PPI and the CPI, what does that spell? A little too hot for Wall Street's taste. And that took a bite out of equities last week. Broadcom again was the stock of the day on Friday. And in fact, Broadcom closed at a trillion dollars for the first time. AVGO, let's just take a look at how it's doing today. Oh man, it's up another 10% today. Wow. It's got the AI fever right now going for it. You know, on the other side, you would think it would be lifting NVIDIA. But I looked at NVIDIA. NVIDIA is just sitting there on its support line. It's down another $2 a share today. It's down to $1.32 after hitting $1.52 just three weeks ago. So just dead in the water stock right now is NVIDIA. Not a lot of further around that one, huh? No. Well, I mean, is that the kiss of death to put it in the Dow? Maybe it is. Maybe that's the kiss of death. I don't know. I've noticed Sherwood Williams is way down, too, since they added it to the Dow. Okay. All right. So the FOMC, Federal Open Market Committee, in the last meeting of the year, is expected to deliver on Wednesday, usually around 2 o'clock, 2.30.
SPEAKER 06 :
A 25-point cut. And 230 will usually be that news conference, which will probably be, usually as is, the most important piece of the announcement. Right now we've got just over 95% chance of a quarter-point cut. And there's 4.6% of folks out there out on a limb who are saying no change.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and it's usually the guys that are always out on a limb and never right. That's usually the way that goes. Now, I mean, the FOMC, you know, has made some bad calls and some big mistakes. They called inflation transitory back in 2020. And then they went on that vicious rate cycle, four 75-point hikes in a row. They were way behind the curve. They had to catch up. And I think now, I don't think they want to go too fast here with rate cuts. I could see them slowing down next year. I'm sure the market's going to start expecting one in January and one in February. That'll be the expectations after Wednesday. But, you know, with those inflation reports last week, we're not down around two yet where they want to go, and we still have some of the hottest inflation in the world right now. Well, there's always earnings. There's going to be just a handful this week. BlackBerry, which was once a big star in the wireless, in the phone area. People using BlackBerrys way before they were using iPhones and Android phones. FedEx will report this week. Micron will report. They're always a little dicey. Both of those companies are dicey, FedEx and Micron. And Nike is dicey. It's been really dicey recently. They're going to report. Carnival's going to report. Accenture, General Mills, Lenar, ConAgra, and Paychex. Hopefully there will be one on Friday, Barry, you know, right in front of Christmas and all that. I hope my paycheck comes in the mail. You never know. Anyways, so those are some of the stocks that will be in the HICO. That's another good little aerospace stock. Red Cat, I've been watching Red Cat. It's in the drone business. And that's obviously been in the news here recently.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just a little bit.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, okay, now listen, I'm just going to say something here. About three weeks ago, There's a stock that I never heard of heating up and breaking out. I go, what in the world is going on there? It was Mirion. M-E, I can't remember the symbol off the top of my head right now. Maybe it was, oh, it was M-I-R-I, I believe. M-I-R-I. And I go, what do they do for a living? No, it's M-I-R. M-I-R, yeah, I just found it. All right. They provide radiation detection. through applications in medical, nuclear, and defense markets and laboratories.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's the one you messaged us about.
SPEAKER 07 :
I did, and I put it out there on X. Yeah, well, okay, so this is not a company that makes nuclear energy or is coming in with the smaller reactors and whatnot. This is one that is out there that detects radiation. Okay. Why in the world is that stock going up? And, of course, the story that came out on Saturday, I believe, and Joe Rogan retweeted it. I did watch the video of the guy. He's claiming that there's a nuclear warhead missing somewhere up in the New Jersey area. And these drones are trying to find it by sniffing and looking for radiation leaks. So, anyways, look, I'm just saying. Now, I'm just going to also say, and if you go back to the newsletter, before COVID really broke, I saw a big movement in environmental protection clothing stocks and gloves and whatnot. And then the big news broke that COVID had come to America. You know, the stock market gets info. The stock market, a lot of times, there's a lot of sleuths out there and a lot of people that are connected in the stock market. And, you know, that Marion is hitting a new high today, MIR, which is headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia. And they detect radiation. Okay. Now, as we look around the world, it's slow. I see slow economies everywhere. I mean, we talk about China on almost a daily basis. how slow things are in China. Japan's factory activity shrinks for the sixth straight month. They're really slow. I mean, basically no growth. And German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, there's also trouble out there. They've got a divided government, and they're going to have a snap election. You have the same thing going on in France, but Germany's economy has been facing persistent headwinds with political parties disagreeing on how to boost growth. The economy contracted 0.3% last year, Barry. They had a negative economy for the entire year. And it's expected to decline 0.2% this year, 2024, and stagnate in 2025. So you have no growth Germany. You have political issues in Germany. You've got South Korea, which impeached their leader over the weekend. And you have issues in France, politically and economy. And the U.K. has gone into contraction. So anyways, I watch those around the world because they're indicators of what's to come down the road. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show with just 15 days left in the year. We're watching the markets. The earnings season obviously over. There's still just a few laggards here trickling in. We're lining up earnings estimates for next year, 2025, and the year after that, 2026. I'll be at a bell-ringing ceremony, Barry, on Wednesday, and I hope it's not my bell getting rung, but we're going to close the NASDAQ on Wednesday. Nice, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
You talked about that last week, so I'm glad you're going to get to go. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm in the group for Granite Shares ETFs. I've been interviewed by him, the CEO of Granite Shares. It's kind of a different concept. You know, what was the original purpose of ETFs? You didn't have single stock risk, right? And GraniteShares, a lot of their ETFs, yeah, spreading your risk so you don't, it's different from owning one stock. GraniteShares has gone in a direction where they'll take one stock, such as Tesla, create an ETF that is double long or short. So, you know, in a way, there is a big need for that because if you own an IRA, you can't do shorting. Well, you can buy the inverse ETFs, but now you can short select stocks if you're really negative on Tesla or if you're negative, I think, They've got several that they've chosen so far to go either long or short. And then they also have just some more traditional ETFs. But it's a pretty innovative company. They're a disruptor. Disruptors like to hang around with disruptors and they even have a disruptor ETF. So somehow they found me and we've been communicating and they've interviewed me on X and then they invited me to the my wife and I to the so the Wednesday's close of the NASDAQ. I don't know. Some of them film it. I think CNBC and Fox Business and maybe Bloomberg will be up there.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'll record it on a couple of channels and see if we catch a glimpse.
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Yeah, I hope it's not on the cartoon channel or something like that. But anyways... I've done it once before, the opening bell over at the New York Stock Exchange many years ago. Okay, now, back to business here. We've got, you know, everybody wants to kiss the ring now. You notice that? Trump's ring. You've got a couple big CEOs last week donating a hundred grand to, or no, a million to Trump's big party, his... His coronation. Another one is ponying up a million dollars today. Sam Altman, who is OpenAI's controversial CEO. He's the one that got fired by OpenAI. Microsoft hired him. And then OpenAI took him back. He's going to donate a million dollars to Trump's inauguration. He is basically, I mean, the biggest driver behind AI right now. And there's been a lot of controversy at that company. Recently, one of their developers committed suicide. He did not like the road that this OpenAI is going down. And that's why they fired Altman. And people quit because they were going down a road that he said he wouldn't go down. As far as I know, they're back to going down that road wherever it leads us. SoftBank's chief. Which has been around, I remember SoftBank when I first got into the business. It was his father back then. Now it's Masayoshi's son, who is the son of the founder of SoftBank. And just like the name, I mean, they are a bank. They invest their private equity mostly, but they do own a lot of publicly traded companies. They were one of the original venture capitalists investing in good companies. I remember they owned Yahoo and others way back when. They haven't done as well recently. You can buy SoftBank, S-F-T-B-Y. He's going to promise $100 billion in investments in America. during his visit to Trump. So he came and kissed the ring and met with Trump on Friday night. And brought a truckload of cash. Yes, and sushi. No, truckload of cash. You're right, $100 billion. Bitcoin, no, well, before we get to Bitcoin, also Tim Cook Friday night. Apple's leader sitting at Miralago at the head table. Tech leaders across the globe are shaking hands with the new president-elect as big tech looks to improve ties. Well, you know, they've all come around now, pretty much all of them. I haven't seen Bill Gates at the head table yet. I don't know that we'll ever see that, but it's supposedly going to be a more favorable environment for tech. Several of them are under fire right now from the FTC, the, you know, what's Google, who's going at, not the Department of Justice, but the antitrust department. is after them. Bitcoin surges above 106,000 as Fed decision looms. There just doesn't seem to be any stopping it. You know, it's the greater fool theory. It's just one guy buys it for a higher price and the next guy buys it and it lasts until the greater fool theory doesn't last anymore. could go to a million who knows it could be nary very near the top who knows there's really no way to value it other than its supply and demand and that's the way that works argentinian bank stocks attract wall street amid success of mele's shock therapy well I would just say that Argentina decided to do something drastically different, and he put government spending on a massive diet. Argentina is the best performing market in the world. Now, whether it's sustainable, whether it lasts, Argentina is up 65%. I own one of the little banks in the incubator fund. It's doing great right now. But Javier Mille, what he's done has just boosted the Argentinian stocks. Now, whether or not jobs and it's trickling down, I don't know any of that. But the bank stocks are up 151% so far this year. And one could say that we're doing a very similar thing here in the U.S. with the DOGE effort. Department of Government, what is it, Government Expenses?
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Okay, I like that even better. We should be efficient in everything that we do. I believe in efficiency. As a CEO of a company, I believe in running an efficient company. Otherwise, you become Morgan Stanley or the government, you know. Okay, when we come back, some of the hottest stocks in the market, they just continue to pound out new highs. Where are they? Who are they? What are the best stocks now? We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. And the market seems optimistic about a quarter point rate cut.
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Later this week, we've got the NASDAQ is up 151. The S&P is up 26. The Dow is up 64. And the small caps are up 9. And in the meantime, the 10-year is down a little bit. to 4.39. It closed at 4.40 on Friday. And of course, we've got crypto, Bitcoin right now, sitting at 106,020. That's a new all-time high on the Bitcoin, the crypto. Okay, stocks that will not stop. Full speed ahead. Tesla lands higher price targets from Wedbush. They're going from 515 to 650. Dan Ives said the firm believes the Trump White House over the next four years will be a total game changer for the autonomous and AI story for Tesla. Well, that's all I can say. He's sitting in a pretty good spot, is Elon Musk right now. Tesla's stock today is hitting a new all-time high, $446.77. We did a good job there getting in that stock after the election. We paid $354. So it's up almost $100 a share since we made that call on Tesla. And it is one of the chosen ones in the premier growth portfolio. You can't really – it doesn't make sense on evaluation on what's known today about the stock. I think they're buying it on what is unknown down the road about the stock, Barry. And with GM dropping out of the – the autonomous race that does narrow it down the race to uh three three companies really google tesla and that aura innovations so tesla is pounding out a new high today 447 it's up to 1.4 trillion who's the richest man in the world by far now Taking the big lead is Elon Musk. Target price from Wedbush today is $6.50. Wow, it's at $4.47 right now. No stopping Tesla. Maybe it'll end up in the Dow someday. Palantir to be added to the NASDAQ 100. That's another unstoppable stock. Palantir, we've done well with Palantir, really well with it. And now it goes into the NASDAQ 100. It's also in the S&P 500.
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That's pretty big that it's going in the NASDAQ 100.
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Yeah, that's a pretty select list of stocks. There is the NASDAQ composite, which is a lot of stocks, but that NASDAQ 100 is the nucleus of the NASDAQ. Palantir was an $8 stock in 2020. They came public the year of COVID, and now it is a $72.88 stock. It's not hitting a new high today, but we do own Palantir also. Added to the NASDAQ 100, who are they replacing? Supermicrocomputer, SMCI. which has been all over the map. I see Super Micros going for trying to float some shares. They need some cash. They need some money to continue their growth trajectory. Bank of America's top chip stocks for 2025. Well, you know what? I could have said this. NVIDIA, Broadcom, and Marvell. Those are the three stocks. And they're pretty much, I mean, those are the heavyweights out there right now. They also like LAM research on semiconductor and cadence design systems. But having said that. It's slow. Other than Broadcom breaking out on Friday in a big way, it continues to be a very, very slow. NVIDIA is just dead in the water. I think between the money going into Tesla and the money going into Bitcoin, there's no money left over to go into NVIDIA, Barry. Maybe that's the case. I don't know. That flow of funds has maxed out. Well, you know, I've seen a little bit of the bloom come off the rose in AI. In fact, I've seen some estimates that only 5% or 6% of the companies out there are going to really use AI for anything. So maybe we got ahead of ourselves. in this AI. But they like those three, NVIDIA, Broadcom, and Marvell. And MRVL, they made a big breakthrough in quantum computing last week, which was big news. The quantum stocks continue to do well. The biggest issue that the semiconductor chips have is China. Okay, William Blair, their top 2025 picks include Broadcom, again, Workday, and monday.com, also CloudFlare. Those are all pretty good stocks. I can't argue with those. Those are some very fast-moving stocks. Workday had kind of a weak report recently, but it's out there in the Silicon Valley. It should do okay next year. And Cloudflare has always been a very good stock, NET. They also like pure storage. I have issues with the storage stocks. I think they're too commoditized myself. Arm Qualcomm head to court over chip design license dispute. Well, Qualcomm's been a dead stock. Qualcomm seems to be kind of really looking anywhere they can for some kind of growth. They considered buying Intel there for a while. They turned away from that. I mean, there's no growth in Intel. And then they tried to do AI. That has not worked out. And Qualcomm is just scraping paint down there on the $150 area, going nowhere in a hurry. And they're looking for ways to grow, but it's not on anybody's list right now. Maybe they'll win this court case. I don't know if that helps or not. But anyways, Qualcomm seems to be pretty much dead in the water right now. They claim that iPhone, okay, so we've been saying that iPhone needs some kind of a catalyst in their next phone, and maybe this is it. I know I've been looking ahead for a bigger screen. How about a foldable, oh I see it's an iPad. I thought it was an iPhone. A foldable iPad. Okay, I don't see that as big a thing as a foldable phone. It's been Android that's come out with the, on Huawei. Huawei came out with the foldable phone. Apparently, Apple's next phone. Yeah, you highlighted it in that article that time. When Apple really came out with nothing on that day, Huawei came out with a foldable phone that you can fold up and put in your pocket. Apparently, Apple's next phone is going to be a lot thinner. Okay, a lot thinner. Maybe that's what they got to do first before they can get it down to where it will fold up. Novo Nordisk is parking $1.2 billion for new rare disease drugs plant in Denmark. That's another couple of stocks that have been pretty dead in the water here recently. Now, Novo was going down, going down. Finally, it bottomed out at $100. It's back to $109, but doesn't really look that exciting right now, even though they've got the weight loss drugs. And Lilly is looking better. It got down to $711. It's back to $791. It's up $80 per share in the last three or four weeks. It's up a little bit today. And it does seem that now I'm hearing that the new people going in to the health and human services and the CDC and all that, they are for the weight loss drugs. And, you know, I also read that the obesity rate in America has come down for the first time in many years. I mean, it's still way up there.
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That's pretty amazing.
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Yeah, I mean, that's like moving an aircraft carrier, right? And, you know, I just see all the benefits that come along with. Lily wanted a separate designation for sleep apnea, and they didn't get it. But, you know, I mean, look, it just makes people healthier to get the weight off. Okay, when we come back, I'm going to talk about a company. It takes a long time to enrich uranium. This is another race. This is almost as hot as the AI race right now. These nuclear stocks, getting nuclear reactors down in size. possibly getting them portable, building smaller nuclear reactors to run these data farms, and being able to enrich uranium at a much faster pace. There's a letter that came out from one of these companies today showing some pretty good progress. And that stock is up 19.4% today. We own it in the incubator account. We'll be right back.
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We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, the short sellers have gone after ASPI. And it looks like they better run for cover because they're getting clobbered now. They're short selling as this stock continues to take off. Now, look, this is a small one. It's $420 million in market cap. It's not even a billion-dollar stock. That puts it down. It's not a micro cap, but it's a very small, small-cap stock. And they're the one that is coming up with a faster way. In fact, listen to this. This is a letter that the CEO sent out today saying, This is a letter from the CEO Paul Mann. As the year comes towards the end, I want to personally write to you to summarize some of the more significant milestones the company has achieved. during 2024 and discuss our future goals for 2025. The company completed the construction of two ASP isotope enrichment facilities, with one awaiting the delivery of feedstock, which is carbon-14, and the second currently in the commissioning phase, which is silicon-28. The company completed the construction of the first quantum enrichment facility, Whatever that is, I think it means it enriches it a lot faster. That's usually when I hear the word quant, quantum, it means fast, speed.
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Like quantum computing, yeah. Like that Google announcement last week.
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One of the radiation products that we're working on is Ytterbium-176. which is a precursor for the production of luteum-177, the active component of Novartis pluvecto, a potential blockbuster for the treatment of prostate cancer. So, yeah, I mean, obviously, radiation is used in the treatment of cancers. And they're also coming up with better, right, better types of the radiation treatments. The company signed two contracts with U.S.-based customers for the supply of highly enriched silicon-28 products. to enable the next generation of semiconductors for quantum computing, artificial intelligence, and large data centers. I mean, this stock, this little stock, is in all the hottest areas of the market.
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It does everything, doesn't it? Yes.
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Now, it's a long-term, it has no sales, no earnings yet, but obviously it looks like they're moving in the right direction. And the stock today is up 18.2%. That's one in the, I mean, obviously, where are you going to own a little stock like that? It's in an incubator portfolio that maybe someday, this is way down in the farm system, maybe someday this thing will start really advancing here. But they're definitely working in the right areas as ASPI. Okay, now we're going to look at the overall markets and just have a kind of a dive underneath the surface here. We're going to go to the NASDAQ. I want to go to the NASDAQ 100 here real quickly where we're getting a new member there. Let's see, who was the member of the, it is our friends at, not Cloudflare, but the other one, CrowdStrike. No, not CrowdStrike, the other one. You know, we just talked about it.
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Anyways. Palo Alto?
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Yeah, Palantir. Palantir. Okay, now. Palantir, yeah. All right, let's go to the NASDAQ components.
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Named off the whole cybersecurity group right there.
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I have so many symbols swimming around in my head. You know, sometimes they get clogged. Okay, now. The biggest winners in the NASDAQ today, and the NASDAQ is having a good day. I'm pretty shocked at the Broadcom. Wow. All of a sudden, you know, that thing was dead in the water for a long time, months and months last year. And it's like, you know, you can't count these big tech companies out. It's up 6.3 and it's tacking that on, I think it was up 20% or something on Friday. Micron's up 6.1% today. Micron's going to be reporting this week. The other one that has really woken up, with a vengeance, and we did buy it last week, is Alphabet. Pete Chai, the CEO, he was at the main table with Trump down in Mar-a-Lago. Alphabet is breaking out today, and that's a new all-time high. Alphabet, Google, is now $2.4 billion, despite a big antitrust case against it by the U.S. government. The current administration is after it. They better hurry up. I don't think they'll get that one done in time, and we'll have to see whether or not the Trump administration carries that one on. And then cadence design, which is pretty good. You know, that's out there on maybe the second ring of AI. Cadence design systems, they help with software for designing a chip, circuit design, etc., And then Tesla's up 2.5% today. So these are kind of the unstoppables right now in the market. Down at the bottom, oh, man, NVIDIA's down another 2% today. What is wrong? I don't see anything out there. other than maybe it got way ahead of itself. It's barely holding on to its support level here at around 132.
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Could folks be rebalancing? I wonder if there could be some big institutions rebalancing right at the end of the year where they've got it and essentially they're going to sell their winners and buy more of their losers?
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I don't know. Now, I would think in January you're going to see some selling. In the first few weeks of January, people putting off those capital gains. I mean, why would you sell now and log in?
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For another 12 months, right?
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That's what I would think. But, man, it's just dead in the water. It just came to a screeching halt. And it is under pressure, NVIDIA is. Okay, and then the other loser there are the losers. Starbucks is a loser, in my opinion. Walgreens is a loser. Microchip Technologies is a loser. Qualcomm is a loser. The losers continue to be losers. And even AMD is a loser, okay? There's only a couple of chip stocks that are doing any good at all right now. Now, if we look at the S&P 500, we'll go out... on this. Do we have time here? No, we don't have time. We're out of time. I just want to see what the biggest winner in the S&P 500 is. Well, again, it's Broadcom and Micron, those two. All right, now, we're going to continue the four-week trial, at least until the end of the year, of the live trading. I'm having a great time. I hope you're having a good time with it. You're getting a lesson on the market. Hopefully, you're getting some under-the-radar types of stocks here. And, of course, obviously, the above-the-radar investments that we make in the big companies. Go to GundersenCapital.com. And if you'd like to speak with us, set up an appointment about managing your portfolio, give us a call at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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Discover a blend of history and modern discourse as Kim Munson engages with Doyle Glass on the Kim Munson Show. As Doyle shares insights from his book 'Swift Sword,' he sheds light on the tremendous courage displayed by Marines during a pivotal day in the Vietnam War. Kim ties these historical feats to current themes of personal liberty, questioning the dynamics between freedom and imposed force in today's society. With contemporary headlines and heartfelt stories, this episode is a tribute to bravery both in the past and present.
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What that means is I purchase my airtime so I have full freedom and control over the show and so truly an entrepreneur. You can listen to the show on all KLZ 560 platforms. That's KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And then once we have the show summaries posted on my website, you can go there, you can just click on the image of that day, and it'll bring up the the written summary, as well as the podcast. And once that podcast is posted, you can also listen to that on the streaming services such as iTunes and Spotify. We search for truth and clarity on the show by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And my friends, it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities or lives via force. And force could be a weapon policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government induced inflation. The agendas of the World Economic Forum, these are all connected. The globalist elites, the United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, this Colorado governor, the World Health Organization, land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, and the list goes on and on. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to use force to implement it. Our word of the day is a great word of the day for today. It's venerate, and that is spelled V-E-N-E-R-A-T-E. And it could, number one, be to regard with reverential respect or with admiring deference, or number two, to honor with a ritual act of devotion. And we'll be talking with Doyle Glass. Did I spell it? Let me just do that. Make sure. V-E-N-E-R-A-T-E. And we'll be talking with Doyle Glass in the second segment. He is the author of Swift Sword, The True Story of the Marines of Mike 3-5 in Vietnam on 4 September 1967. And he is doing a national push with his book this week to honor our Vietnam veterans or venerate our Vietnam veterans. And so your challenge is to use the word venerate in a sentence today. Our quote of the day, because back in 1944, this was the beginning of the Battle of the Bulge in World War II. So I went to George Patton, General George Patton, for our quote. He was born in San Gabriel, California, in 1885. He died from injuries from a Jeep accident in 1945. He was a U.S. Army officer, was an outstanding practitioner of mobile tank warfare in the European and Mediterranean theaters during World War II. His strict discipline, toughness, and self-sacrifice elicited exceptional pride within his ranks, and the general was colorfully referred to as old blood and guts by his men. However, his brash actions and temper did lead to numerous controversies during his career. But he said this, if everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking, and that's General Patton. So another thing this day in history, 1773, the Boston Tea Party with the Sons of Liberty protesters throw tea shipments into the Boston Harbor in protest against the British imposed tea tax. And for the week of Christmas, we are pre-recording our shows and amazing guests, amazing interviews. So Colonel Bill Rutledge, you know him. He's retired, United States Air Force, 96 years young. We recorded a show regarding the Boston Tea Party, but there were other tea parties as well, and so you won't want to miss that. In 1864, in the Civil War, the Battle of Nashville ends with 4,400 casualties. 1918, German troops evacuate Finland. Give over Kiev in Ukraine to revolutionary forces and pull back from Estonia as Bolshevik forces move in. So there's that's another spot that there has just been unrest throughout history as Ukraine. As I mentioned, 1944, Nazi Germany launches a counteroffensive against the Allies in the Ardennes region of Belgium, beginning the Battle of the Bulge. 1950, U.S. President Harry Truman proclaims state of emergency against communist imperialism. and uh 2020 uh global warming ha a major winter storm hits u.s northeast resulting in at least seven deaths and binghamton new york received a record 41 inches of snow and so that's why they changed it back in the 70s they said that the world was going to freeze and when that didn't happen then it was global warming And when we realized that temperatures, weather does change, it became climate change. So that is why we would highly recommend you. And the whole climate change narrative is being used. The Green New Deal is being used to take our taxpayer dollars as well as borrowing from our children to put green into cronies pockets is what's happening there. And so be sure and check out climateconversation.com which is the documentary that i had the great honor to moderate it is walt johnson's project you can watch it for free at a climateconversation.com and it is um we're doing a whole podcast series as well and you can watch all that there so that's super important Several headlines to get through. First of all, so exciting for Travis Hunter from University of Colorado. And this is from Channel 7. Colorado's Travis Hunter wins the Heisman Trophy, second buff ever to do this. And Hunter hauled in, we mentioned this the other day, 92 passes and 14 touchdowns as a receiver, both tops in the Big 12 Conference. And his 1,152 receiving yards ranked him third. He also led the conference in passes defended and intercepted four passes. And the other CU buff who had won the award was Whizzer White. He went on to become a Supreme Court justice. And so pretty exciting. And congratulations to Whizzer. Travis Hunter. Next headline that I wanted to just hit. This is amazing. And I've got to get a list of these. This is from, let's see here, the Denver Post. Governor Jared Polis cuts through executive orders wielding a circular saw on his desk. Now, Colorado is over-regulated, and it still is. But you can see really kind of the brilliance, in a way, of the visual that he has of cutting through regulations, supposedly, with regulations on his desk. Let's find out what those regulations were. But yet there's all of these onerous things that are happening in Colorado. But the visual that this is for the... I don't want to say casual voter, but but the just everyday people that are just watching the news aren't really delving deeper into this because they're busy with their lives and their families is it's an interesting visual. So you can see that Governor Polis is trying to change his tune or appear to change his tune because of his he'd like to run for president at some point in time. And then number three, let's see. This is really of concern. This is from Insider, and we're concerned about these drones that are spotted over the East Coast. They're saying that they don't have a whole lot of answers on this yet. I think they probably do, but they're just not telling us. It says dozens of unidentified aircraft have been spotted over cities in the eastern United States. And some of these have been seen flying over military bases and airports. The FBI said Saturday it's still investigating but doesn't believe they pose a threat. Well, tell us why you think that they don't pose a threat. And then lastly, Doge, that is Elon Musk, and this is from the Tampa Free Press. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are taking aim at the U.S. Department of Education after that department spent $1 billion on diversity, equity, and inclusion. So again, this is where they dole out the money, government grants, and then they then force these different school districts to bring in this training. It'll be under teacher training. They spent a billion dollars on that. I think that we can stop doing that. Immediately. Thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And also the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team can help you hopefully save some money on your insurance. Insurance is getting more and more expensive. If you bundle your insurance together, you might be able to save some money. That means bundling your home and your auto and your boat, all those things. But reach out to the Roger Mangan team for a complimentary appointment. That number is 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues. through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it and i wanted to mention the usmc memorial which is located right here in colorado this is the official marine memorial it's out at 6th and colfax it was dedicated in 1977 and paula sarles who is a marine veteran a gold star wife and the president of the foundation she and her team are working diligently to raise the money for the remodel of the marine memorial And as we're going to be talking with Doyle Glass here and his big push this week to honor our Vietnam veterans, a great thing to do would be to make a contribution also to the USMC Memorial Foundation. It is so important to honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives. for our liberty. And so that would be a great thing to do. That website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Doyle Glass is on the line with me, and he is the author of Swift Sword, The True Story of the Marines of Mike 3-5 in Vietnam for September 1967. Doyle Glass, welcome to the show.
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Thank you, Kim. It's a real honor to be here once again, and thank you for all that you do.
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Well, it's truly my honor to do so. And I have my copy of Swift Sword here in my hand, and I intend to read that over Christmas break. So I've got it. And it's an important book. So let's talk, first of all, about the book and then what you're doing this week nationally. So and I know that you've been on the show and we did feature on you on America's Veterans Stories. But for those of that might have missed those shows, tell us about the book.
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The book is about one day of intense combat during the Vietnam War. And back when we were honoring our greatest generation, our World War II generation, I had a realization that we needed to do the same for our Vietnam veterans who didn't get the welcome that they needed or should have gotten when they came home. And I realized that the historical record was kind of empty with those stories. So back in the early 2000s, I went on a mission to interview veterans of one particular representative action in the Quezon Valley in 1967. And the result is Swift Sword, a true account from the men who were there about what it was like there. to fight in Vietnam, the challenges that they had to overcome, the camaraderie, the honor, the gallantry, and to let all Americans know what these men did so that they can be honored and thanked.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think that is so important. And you're doing a national push this week on this as well, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, we want this book to be a bestseller, and the reason for that is that we want the word out. It's time to thank our Vietnam veterans. It's time to know what they did. Most people don't even know what our Vietnam veterans did or have an inkling. This book does that, so we're doing a national push all week to get this book on a bestseller list. And really, to get the word out, you go to Amazon. There is a 99-cent special on the e-book. On my website, there is a paperback special price-wise. And the goal here is to know what these men did. Think about when we send any of our servicemen and women over to fight our wars. And most importantly, to thank our Vietnam generation. They're in your family, the uncles, grandfathers, to go up and just shake their hand and say thank you for what you did for our liberty.
SPEAKER 03 :
I would also recommend that if people have a veteran, particularly a Vietnam veteran in their family, is sit down with them and get your cell phone out and record their story for the family. I think that is so important. So many people, and there are those that might not want to do that. I get that. I had been referred to a Vietnam veteran once. uh just recently that had been in combat and reached out to him to see if and he's very active at supporting veterans if he would like to tell a story for america's veteran stories and he said no i don't think so because i don't want to bring those memories back up But there are those that it might be healing for them to talk about it. So you certainly want to honor if they don't want to talk about it. But I think that just asking your veteran if they would be interested, and if they do, get your phone out, your family member, because it really is a treasure. And I would suggest that people do that, Doyle.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, absolutely. You bring up such an important point because, you know, when these men pass, their stories pass with them, and they won't be here for future generations. And, you know, I ran into the difficulty, obviously, and, you know, respected those veterans who did not want to talk. But to your point, a lot of them that did, it was very healing for them to speak about what happened. And they all felt safe. the mission of their comrades lost and honoring their memory about what they did was so important. Because once we have the stories, we'll have them forever. But if we don't get them now, pull out your phone like you just said, we won't have them, and we need them. Our country needs them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and so that's why your book, Swift Sword, is important because you interviewed, what, 49 different veterans for this book? Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly. And also family members of those who didn't come back. Lieutenant J.D. Murray, who was the commander of my company on Operation Swift on September the 4th, gave me a charge. He said... This book needs to be like the book With the Old Breed by E.B. Sledge. Sledge was a Marine veteran who fought at Peleliu and Okinawa during World War II. The HBO miniseries The Pacific is based in part on his memoir. And Lieutenant Murray said, this book must be like that because that book is real. What we went through is real, and it has to be recorded for future generations. And that's what I set out to do was to create an authentic book. And on to that path, I interviewed – 50 was the number – an amazing journey for me personally to become friends with and talk to these men. It changed my life, my perspective on everything. So, you know, I hope that, and according to Murray, I accomplished my objective, which is what I wanted to do. And it's a real honor for me to just be a part to help preserve what these men did.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I'm looking at, I love pictures in books, and I'm looking at this, two pictures right here. The first one is, it says the second squad, second platoon, and if you will notice as you look at that, it's a very diverse group of young men, young men, let's say young men. But I think that that's so important to recognize that. But then you also have a picture of Lance Corporal Jack Swan, who was the point man. And just tell us a little bit about that story of Jack Swan.
SPEAKER 09 :
Jack Swan volunteered to be the point man. And the point man is the person who's at the tip of the spear of Completely. He's the one that's going to face the danger. If the enemy is out there, he's the first one to encounter that enemy. It's probably the most dangerous position to be in an infantry situation like this. So Jack Swan was the eagle eye, and he, like I said, he volunteered for this position. He was a little bit crazy. But as these men came over this bare knoll in the Quezon Valley on their way to provide reinforcement to another company of Marines that was under ambush, he looked out onto this calm rice paddy devoid of all life on a very sunny midday and thought he saw a bush move. He yelled back to his squad commander, said, hey, saw a bush move and squad commander said if it moves again shoot it that's exactly what happened the nva who outnumbered these men at least five to one were so well camouflaged that the men couldn't even see them in broad daylight until jack swan saw that bush move it was a veteran nba soldier incomplete camouflage and it opened up the ambush bottom line swan's actions save the company if they had moved completely into this large rice paddy the nba would have opened up the ambush and it would have overwhelmed the 164 men it would have been another alamo or a thermopoly battle the marines would have been wiped out but but for swan's eagle eye they were able to take a piece of high ground called the knoll, really just a small bare hill, and hang on for dear life as they fought back this incredible ambush.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, it's a remarkable story. And so, my friends, and if you're wondering what would be a good gift for that veteran in your family, purchase Swift Sword this week because this is the big national push. Your final thought, Doyle Glasson, thank you so much for writing this book.
SPEAKER 09 :
My final thought is to honor the veterans, say thank you. The reason we have these liberties and we're able to speak on your radio show and to have the freedoms we have is because of our veterans, especially our Vietnam veterans. Say thank you to them. They did not get the thanks that they needed when they came home. Get their stories out. Go to my website, DoyleGlass.com, to purchase the book at a special price. Amazon, Swift Sword, the 99-cent e-book. Go – this week to purchase it so that we can make this book a bestseller and we can honor our Vietnam veterans like we need to.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you, Doyle Glass. And again, Swift Sword, the true story of the Marines of Mike 3-5 in Vietnam for September 1967. So yes, let's make this a bestseller. Doyle Glass, thank you so much.
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. They've been sponsors for many years and really appreciate their help in keeping our independent voice out there. On the line with me is Dr. Brian Joondepth. And you know him. You can find his articles at the American Thinker, at Rasmussen Reports. And he's got a great article here, Move Over, Tom Homan, Hillary Clinton for Borders Are. Dr. Joondepth, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good morning, Kim. Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 03 :
You've been busy writing, but this is a very interesting essay or article because actually Hillary Clinton sounded like she was tough on the border many years ago.
SPEAKER 10 :
A lot of Democrats were. It's strange how positions shift. And it really illustrates the hypocrisy of Democrats that at one time they were fairly sensible. They've lurched very far left. And this just illustrates it. And I pose two theories. Part of it is Hillary was running for president when she gave these remarks and probably pandering to most of America at the time that was probably already concerned about an open border. But the party has lurched very far left. And I think that's Obama's doing. And now it's any type of border is terrible. They're even Biden administration is selling unused border wall parts and components that Trump is building a wall. Biden became president and the wall building stopped and they were still a lot of parts and sections of the wall that could have been built. And Biden's now selling them off at a pittance just to spite Trump and delay his building the wall. So it's really been quite a reversal. And it just goes to show that the Democrats have, the Republicans haven't. The Republicans have been squishy on the border for a long time. But Democrats have really lurched to the left on that, and they're now totally opposed to any type of national border.
SPEAKER 03 :
This selling off of the border wall, this Biden, the Biden-Harris administration, even though he parroted that it would be a smooth transition to Trump. the things that they are doing is really sabotaging, I think trying to sabotage Trump, which in turn is trying to sabotage the American people. And so the selling of the steel for the border wall, which was purchased by the taxpayers of America and then also by our children through the debt that has been incurred, is unconscionable, Dr. June Depth.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is. The will of the people... in electing Trump in a very overwhelming fashion is that we have a border wall. That's one of his signature issues. It was when he came down the escalator at Trump Tower in June of 2015. He's been very firm on that, building a wall. And to do that is just spiteful. The Biden administration is not doing a smooth transition. They're laying a lot of traps and roadblocks. They've changed employee classifications so that Elon Musk and Vivek can't go in there and fire a bunch of people. They're making that difficult. They've extended the COVID emergency for another five years, which is RFK can undo it with a stroke of the pen, but they're trying to do that. They keep stirring the pot in Ukraine and trying to get us into a hot war. They've meddled in Syria, and who knows how Syria is going to transpire, but U.S. definitely has a hand in that. So they're laying a lot of traps, and they're going to leave Trump with his handful of fires to put out before he can even start enacting his agenda. I don't think it's going to stop him or slow him. I'm sure he's anticipated this, and he sees what's happening, and he's got people that are going to hit the ground running. And he's got a lot of special envoys that are going to bypass some of the cabinet positions and keep some of these deep state agencies really on the sidelines. So I think he's well positioned to get stuff done. Having a border czar and having Rick Gannell as special envoy and envoys to certain hotspots around the world totally bypasses the State Department. Marco Rubio is not going to have much to do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and so explain the border czar, or what these czars are, and has any of the presidents used them before? Because they don't have to be confirmed by the Senate, as cabinet members do have to be confirmed by the Senate.
SPEAKER 10 :
The czars are unconstitutional, number one. There's no provision in the Constitution to have a czar. So ideally, we don't have them. But they started from Woodrow Wilson's days, and they've been around for 100 years. And Every president has had czars. Obama had 30 czars, and I don't recall much in the way of complaints when he had his czars. Joe Biden had Kamala Harris as the border czar, and she did absolutely nothing, and became very defensive when called out on that. Nobody really knew she was the border czar because she didn't do anything, but when she was running for president, that became an issue, and the media... went into contortions to deny that she was the border czar, even though a couple of years ago, they're all on record saying she's the border czar. And my article was a funny montage of how the media is doing backflips to deny what they said. But that being said, the border czar is non-confirmed, and they have... a lot of power. They're basically the president's special envoy, speaks for the president and carries out his wishes. And the Senate confirmation process has really become so convoluted that that's why I think presidents are appointing czars, because to get somebody advice and consent is not what the Senate's doing. The Senate should be making comments, suggestions, that sort of thing. But they're holding up nominees. And this happens on both sides. It's more the Democrats doing it, but the Republicans can do it as well. But they're preventing the president from surrounding him or herself with cabinet officials that they choose. They should have the cabinet that they desire. And The Senate can give advice. They can give opinions on it. But ultimately, it's the president's choice. The president was elected by the people. And by extension, their cabinet should be an extension of the president. And not all these senators preening about, oh, we're going to stop this nomination and we have questions about this and we're uncomfortable about that. That's not their role. And that's been abused to the point that the president has to appoint czars in order to get anything done. And all these special positions, these envoys, Trump has a bunch of envoys, Rick Grinnell being the most recent, but envoy to the Middle East and one to Ukraine. And these are people that are going to negotiate and speak for Trump and carry information back and forth as if it was Trump negotiating, which is going to cut the State Department, deep state, and all their interests out of it. So I think that's very interesting. And I think he's doing an end run because he's not going to, he probably wouldn't get a Rick Grinnell confirmed as Secretary of State. Marco Rubio is going to be an easy confirmation, and he'll be sidelined. So I think it serves a good purpose. It's unfortunate it has to be that way, and if Congress and, you know, they followed the Constitution and gave advice instead of holding up all these nominees for political reasons, you wouldn't need czars. But that's the way the system is now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, the way I see it, Dr. June Depp, is we really have 18 months that we really need to be working, obviously Trump at the federal level, but us at the local, county, and state level, as well to get this country turned around to get government back in its proper role. And I think with Trump, the first time he was elected, he's a business guy, and he didn't come in and clean house. He tried to find out, I think, even here in Colorado, I think that there were those that were on the Trump team that really didn't put his best interest at the forefront. I'll just put it that way. But I think that he looked at the landscape and he looked at the leadership, Paul Ryan, and he appointed people into his – brought people into his administration and I think tried to play the political game. Paul Ryan, they didn't do anything. They had the majority didn't do anything regarding the border. They could have done something regarding the border. And they were just stalling. And I think Trump learned his lesson. And that's why there was an article I read just recently that Trump already is the president. He's acting like the president. He's being treated like the president internationally. It's almost hysterical to see all of these different people going to Mar-a-Lago that were quite vocal in their criticism of Donald Trump. It's fascinating to watch this. We're in such an interesting time in history, Dr. June Depth.
SPEAKER 10 :
We really are. I don't think Trump, he admits it, he didn't expect to win in 2016. And he tried to play nice with the Republican Party. He's not a Republican insider. He was a Democrat for many years. He wasn't in politics. So he picks Reince Priebus as chief of staff, and look at the people he picked. You know, Chris Wray for FBI director, and Chris Wray's done a horrible job. That's a Trump selection. Had Jeff Sessions, Ron Rosenstein, Bill Barr. They did nothing. And he really had bad choices. And I think he tried to play nice and tried to get along with the Republican establishment, but they stopped him at every turn. Congress did zero. Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, they couldn't get Obamacare repealed. That was a big campaign issue, and that's something Republicans promised to do. Building the wall was a priority, and Paul Ryan would not allow it to be funded. And funding's what? Five billion dollars? We've sent, you know, a hundred times that to Ukraine and other hotspots of the world in securing their borders, but we can't secure ours. And Trump did learn his lesson, and he's not going to play that game again.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, and that is so important. We've got to be taking action now. I think you know I work with some other people. We put together the Colorado 2024 Election Project. And we were able to raise the money to file two lawsuits, two different lawsuits, two different law firms. One is with United Sovereign Americans. that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards that's set forth by Congress for our elections, and that's in the legal back and forth now. That was filed back in September, and then the other was filed in November before the election. And that is with Peter Berneger and his his team out of Wisconsin, Wisconsin Center for Election Justice, where has gone through voter rolls and the voter rolls are not clean. And that's the basis of those lawsuits. So we've got those hanging out there. And that's in that back and forth legal thing as well. But we can't be complacent. Right now, this is so important. We've got to be taking action. And if we do take action and engage in this battle of ideas like you do, shedding light on things, I think we will reclaim our country and we'll reclaim our state. But right here in Colorado, I even saved some of the... emails that went out from Republican establishment trashing Donald Trump after he lost in 2020. And he was really, there were Republicans here that were really undercutting him, Dr. June Depth.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. A lot of the Republicans don't like him because the Republicans are part of the donor class and they benefit from open borders and a lot of the stuff that Trump's supposed to. They're part of the problem, not part of the solution. And Unfortunately, Trump has cleaned house quite a bit. If you notice, Speaker Mike Johnson, he came out of nowhere. He's the Speaker of the House. And how many events has Trump been to that, well, there's Mike Johnson in the background. I think he was at the Army-Navy game. He was... on the plane when Elon Musk and RFK were eating McDonald's. Mike Johnson is part of it. He was at the Madison Square Garden, the fight. It's interesting that Mike Johnson has become part of Trump's inner circle, and he's Speaker of the House. You'd never see John Boehner, Paul Ryan, somebody like that. So Trump is playing it smart. He's got his allies involved. And that's going to make things happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues. through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And over Christmas break, I would highly recommend that you take the family to Pueblo, to the Center for American Values. It's located on the beautiful Riverwalk there. And there's over 160 portraits of Medal of Honor recipients with their quotes. And it is such a learning experience about our history for our children. And so check out their website. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And you can make a day of it. There's wonderful restaurants there on the Riverwalk. If it's a pretty day, you can actually walk the Riverwalk. And so check out AmericanValueCenter.org. Dr. Brian June Depth is on the line with me. You can find his essays and articles at American Thinker and the rest, Muser Reports. And you're publishing one today. And the visual, the picture you have in it, just I'm shaking my head as I look back down memory lane. It's a photo of I think it's Lloyd Austin, isn't it? In front of the troops. He's got this plastic head cover.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, face shield.
SPEAKER 03 :
She looks like Darth Vader. And then our troops all have masks on their faces. It's almost surreal as I look at this photo. But this whole expert class, your piece is Trump is flushing the expert class down the toilet. Has it published yet or when will it publish?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, yes. It's been American Thinker this morning. They weren't sure if it was going to be today or tomorrow. So that's why I hedged my bets. But it's there this morning.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. So unpack this for us, Dr. June Dept.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, we're hearing about some of Trump's nominees that they're not experts, they're unqualified, and that's specifically Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth, and RFK Jr. They don't have the gravitas, the experience. You've got the 50 or 100, whatever it is, intelligence officials or Nobel laureates that are signing a letter saying, saying, oh, these are unqualified people. Well, we all remember the 51 intelligence officials that insisted Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Nine months earlier, the FBI knew it was legit because they were using it in court cases. They acknowledged it was legitimate. And you have intelligence officials that are lying through their teeth. But this is who's held out as the expert class. And I go through talking about what the expert class has done in the defense industry. They've botched up Ukraine. They botched up the Middle East under George Bush. They messed up the Afghanistan withdrawal. They're constantly doing bad things under false pretenses. And these are not experts. The Pentagon has not passed an audit in nine years. So where are the experts? And then on the medical side, Look at the statistics. I quote a bunch of health statistics of how unhealthy America is despite how much we spend on health care and how COVID and everything that was mandated and required turned out to either not work or make things worse. We're now learning about vaccine adverse events. We've learned that the more vaccines you get, the more vulnerable you are to COVID. Mass didn't work. Social distancing was arbitrary. Lockdowns didn't work. They made things worse. And then on the intelligence front. So it's much the same. All the experts have really made a mess of things. And it's time for a new wave of people, not one of these so-called experts. Tulsi Gabbard has plenty of experience in Congress. RFK has been at this healthcare stuff for decades as an attorney. And Pete Hegseth has 20 years in the military. Of course, he's got experience, two Ivy League degrees. And instead, we've looked at the clowns we have now. And some of the other pictures in the article are good examples of that. Rachel Levine, formerly Dick Levine, and the, you know, Sam whatever that stealing women's luggage. That's the expert class. It's a great photo of the two of them, and that exemplifies the terrible job the government under Biden has been doing. The people they've appointed, it's a clown show. And they have the gall to call Trump's nominees unqualified. Well, the experts have been running America into the ditch.
SPEAKER 03 :
They have. I think we should call it the inept class, actually. So we only have a couple of minutes left. Do you have any thoughts regarding these drone sightings?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, I wondered if you were going to ask that. I don't know. It's the craziest story. They're appearing out everywhere. Government officials, this, again, is your expert class. You've got Pentagon and other government officials, they don't know what they are, but they assure us it's not a threat. That's like all these young athletes dropping dead. We don't know what's causing it, but we know it's not a vaccine effect. So that's the so-called experts. I don't know. My best guess from what I've read is they're looking for something. Sniffer drones that are looking for nuclear chemical biologic weapons. that's about the only thing that makes sense to me. If they were a foreign threat, I would assume we'd be doing something about it because they're appearing everywhere. It was New Jersey, now it's California, it's in Atlanta. So I think perhaps there's credible intelligence that some nuclear weapons have gone missing from somewhere and they're looking for them. That's my guess. And again, it's just a guess. I base it on what's the most likely and not the least likely. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think that, first of all, they know what they know. And if they don't know, you talk about inept. It seems like you'd shoot one down and you'd get that into forensics and you could find out. So I think they know what's going on. And this is so frustrating when they make a statement, then they say, oh, nothing to see here, nothing to worry about. I wish that they'd start to come clean with the American people, but that's not happening, I don't think, yet. Yeah, stay tuned. It's of great concern. That's for sure, Dr. June Depth. But we've got 30 seconds left. I want to say, first of all, your pieces are so good. And people can find them at American Thinker and Rasmussen Reports. And I wish you and yours a really Merry Christmas. And the other piece that we didn't talk about was, I think, confidence. People, I think that with the Trump election, I think people have confidence that the future is brighter. So Merry Christmas, Dr. June Depp.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you, you as well. And it's going to be a good Christmas for all of us. We got a big present named Trump under the Christmas tree, and I'm hoping for great things.
SPEAKER 03 :
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. The text line is 720-605-0647. And during the break, you heard the spot for Doyle Glass's book, Swift Sword, which is the true story of Marines of Mike 3-5 in Vietnam on 4 September 1967. And also, that just segues into support for the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial Foundation. which the official Marine Memorial is located right here in Golden, Colorado at 6th and Colfax. It was dedicated in 1977. And Paula Sarles and her team, she's the president of the foundation, as well as a Gold Star wife and a Marine veteran, is working diligently to raise the money for that remodel. And so make a tax-deductible donation by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Please dab on the line with me, Professor Cory Brettschneider. He has studied and taught politics and constitutional law for most of his adult life. He earned a PhD in politics from Princeton, has a law degree from Stanford. He's been teaching at Brown's Political Science Department as a visiting professor in the law schools at Fordham, the University of Chicago, and Harvard. And he focuses on teaching and writing on issues central to our democracy, like free speech, the role of courts in our system of government, and Religious Freedom. Professor Corey Brettschneider, welcome.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for having me. Looking forward to the conversation.
SPEAKER 03 :
I am as well. And your recent book, The Presidents and the People, Five Leaders Who Threatened Democracy and the Citizens Who Fought to Defend It. Fascinating. So where shall we start, Professor Brettschneider?
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for saying that. It's a book, I think, really about history, but also a book about history that gives us a lens to understand the current moment. For instance, it came out the day after the Supreme Court and Trump versus the United States decided its monumental immunity decision. And what that decision said for the first time in American history is not only that sitting president's couldn't be prosecuted for their official acts, or at least presumptively couldn't be prosecuted, but that even former presidents had that power. It expanded the power of the presidency enormously. Now, to go back to history, its relevance is that when you look at the founding, there was a warning that was issued that I think many of us ignored for a long time, but this immunity case really makes it relevant. And the warning was from Patrick Henry, who said, the revolutionary hero, he said, you know, give me liberty or give me death. But here what he says is don't ratify this Constitution. Why? He's worried that the Constitution assumes a good person in office. And he says, but what if you have a president who's guilty of crimes, a criminal president? The checks just aren't there. They won't work. Now, my book is really an attempt to grapple with these issues. And I take a more moderate line than Patrick Henry and others. And I say, look, It's true that we've had a danger inherent in the United States presidency, but it's a danger that's been met, not through the traditional checks and balances, not through courts, not through Congress, but through citizens taking the Constitution into their own hands. Some of the founders talked about the idea of common sense, of course, pain, for instance. And that's what this idea is, that citizens took the Constitution into their own hands using a kind of common sense approach to it and saved us from authoritarian threats at the hands of presidents who would have destroyed democracy.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, Professor Brett Schneider, those on the left really were decrying this decision by the Supreme Court. And I think there was, I understand concern, but this lawfare that has, accusing Trump of things that he didn't commit, or I took a look at, you know, they said that he'd been, convicted of 34 different counts. And I took a look at what those counts really were, and they were accounting. It would be like making an accounting ledger and things and then writing checks for that. And so this lawfare towards Trump is pretty unprecedented. So the Supreme Court responds to that, but maybe we're not looking.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sorry, I think we're a little confusing issues. The case is about January 6th, not about this isn't the Manhattan district attorney. So Trump was indicted by the Department of Justice for conspiring to undermine a process in Congress. That's the accusation. OK, that's the first thing. So then the second thing is now the court has to ask not whether or not he's guilty or not, but whether or not we're going to hear the evidence. about that question. So just getting the facts right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. And explain that to me just a little bit more then. So this was undermining the process January 6th of basically the vice president certifying the election?
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct. That's the indictment by the federal prosecutors. Correct. By Jack Smith.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. So So clarify then for me, everything's so messy, Professor Schneider. I'm struggling because everything's so messy around all this.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's important to get the facts right. I mean, if you're going to talk about these questions, there are multiple cases that were brought against Trump, four of them specifically, one by Georgia, about an attempt to basically pressure the secretary of state. In that case, the indictment is about the pressure on him to not certify the votes, electoral votes, and to engage in a sort of coercion. That's the first. Is that the Fannie Willis case? That's the Fannie Willis. The second is the Manhattan DA case, which is about, I think what you were referring to, the payments to Stormy Daniels. And then there are two federal cases by the Department of Justice, and there's a special prosecutor that was appointed there named Jack Smith. And what those are, one, a case about the records, about basically illegitimately handling official documents. And then the fourth criminal indictment is about January 6th. The accusation is that Trump engaged in a conspiracy to undermine, essentially, the certification of electoral votes that takes place on January 6th, not just that there was a riot or violence, but that there was a wider scheme to undermine the certification of the votes.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
So then— And then the immunity—sorry, then the immunity case is about that in particular and whether or not that can go forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Okay. So those on the left were very, very concerned about this. In your opinion, is that warranted?
SPEAKER 11 :
Sorry, I just really think if you're going to talk about these questions, you've got to get the facts right. So there's no left and right. This is a federal prosecutor who brought, you could think they're wrong, brought a series of claims. And then the Supreme Court weighed in on the question of whether or not the claims could go forward and whether or not we would have this trial or not. And what they did is they said that there's a legal issue about prosecuting a former president, and they gave immunity presumptively to the former president in that case.
SPEAKER 03 :
So do you think that was the right decision?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know what's left and right. I mean, it's not political. This is a legal question.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Okay. I got it. Okay. Thank you. So do you think it was the correct decision?
SPEAKER 11 :
The immunity case?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Do I think that the immunity case was correctly decided? I think that there's been a very real question throughout American history about whether or not sitting presidents have immunity. And the Constitution doesn't say that explicitly. And there are arguments on both sides at the founding, for instance. James Wilson, for instance, at the Pennsylvania Ratifying Convention, says that a sitting president – is a citizen. And so there should be no difference really between a sitting president and someone else. And so the indictment should go forward. John Adams, who is much more an advocate of strong executive power, makes a different argument. He says, look, the job is really important. And so the importance of the job means that there has to be a kind of immunity, at least while the person is in office. So during Nixon, this came up again. And the question was whether or not, and I talk about this in the book, the grand jury, which wanted to indict Nixon, could they do it? And what the prosecutor convinced them to do was not to do the indictment, to delay it until after Nixon was president. And after Nixon was president, he said, OK, we could go forward with the indictment. Now, the pardon by Ford stopped that and was partly an attempt to stop this prosecution that was certainly coming. So why tell all this history? I think that's obviously a real debate. Do sitting presidents have immunity? But what no one and this is what's different about this decision, what no one really claimed until very recently. And the court did say this. So did Trump's lawyers. That's the law right now. But that former presidents have immunity. And the worry was by all parties, including Adam's. that you wanted to allow the immunity to give flexibility to the president in office, but not after the president left office. And the worry was in particular that what that might do is to allow someone, that was the point of the Patrick Henry thing, to commit crimes in a way in which they would never be held criminally accountable. Guilty or not, you couldn't even bring the case. That was the worry of the Nixon White House. Ford assumed that, of course— and of the founders. So do I think it was a good decision? No, I don't think so. I think it's not one grounded in law. I think there's all sorts of reasons why the court did this. I think they were worried, for instance, about what you said, about back and forth, about retaliation, about the sort of descending into one president prosecuting his opponents and then another president prosecuting their opponents. But is it a decision grounded in law? No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER 20 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. You know what, Professor Bretschneider, let's go to break because when we come back, I'd like to go through these different presidents that you talk about in the book and what the people did. And I'm talking with Professor Corey Bretschneider, and his book is The Presidents of the People, Five Leaders Who Threatened Democracy and the Citizens Who Fought to Defend It. And these discussions come to you because of all of our sponsors. And one of those is Lavaca Meat Company. And what a great treat to give one of their meat boxes to your employees or your family or friends for Christmas. And you can get more information by going to LavacaMeat.com.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values. I would recommend that you take the kids down on a day trip during a Christmas break to Pueblo, Colorado, where the center is located on the beautiful Riverwalk. And they do a variety of things. One of those is honoring our Medal of Honor recipients. The center was co-founded by Drew Dix, who received the Medal of Honor for actions he took during the Vietnam War, and Brad Padula, who is an Emmy Award-winning historian. documentary maker. And they realized that we need to honor our Medal of Honor recipients. And then also they do these educational programs regarding these key values of America of honor, integrity and patriotism. You can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. Pleased to be talking with Professor Cory Brett Schneider. He is the author of the book, The Presidents and the People, Five Leaders Who Threatened Democracy and Citizens Who Fought to Defend It. And he's been studying and teaching politics and constitutional law for many years. He has a PhD in politics from Princeton and a law degree from Stanford. He has taught in Brown's Political Science Department and a visiting professor at law schools at Fordham, the University of Chicago, and Harvard. Professor Brett Schneider, your book, The Presidents and the People. Who are these five presidents and what were they doing and how did the people stop them?
SPEAKER 11 :
The first one is, you know, and I should say, too, that I began with this idea of the criminal presidency. And I'll talk about the we talked about the indictments against Trump. There also were criminal indictments against Richard Nixon. But that doesn't characterize all of them. And it certainly doesn't characterize the first person that I want to talk about is John Adams. And Adams, in many ways, is the most learned president that we've had and one of the most learned persons of his own time. But what's not understood about him is that he was a devotee and a defender of constitutional monarchy. Not absolute monarchy, but a limited kind of monarchy. And he thought, in particular, that the way to understand the president was as a kind of king, actually went analogous with the British king. And for him, the king certainly had done wrong, and that led to the revolution, but there was a kind of good king that would be upheld. So what did he do? In 1798, he signs the Sedition Act, which makes it a crime, and this is what's important in understanding why it threatens democracy, to criticize the president of the United States, but makes it perfectly legal to criticize the vice president of the United States. Now, why would you want to do that? It's because the vice president, and I hear you laughing, is a member of a different party. And it was really an attempt by Adams and his party to shut down the opposition. And the story that I tell of the citizens is that many of those citizens who were prosecuted, including journalists, used their prosecutions. And I should say journalists at the time were even more partisan than they are now. So these were political opponents. But they used their own trials as a way of putting Adams on trial and asking the country, you know, really, are we a monarchy or are we devoted to this newly enacted idea of free speech that says, You have not just a right to dissent, but even, and this was a radical idea at the time, to criticize the president of the United States. Now, the election of 1800, it wasn't courts, by the way, that resolved this, because the courts at the time were really on Adams' side. They wanted the Sedition Act. They saw actually to it that many of these editors were prosecuted. Samuel Chase, a Supreme Court justice, sat on one of their trials, the trial of Thomas Cooper, to make sure that he was convicted. So what happened is the editors won. They fought back. And we have this idea that, yes, you can criticize the president, not because of what happened in court, but they used the election of 1800 to elect Thomas Jefferson, who pledged to get rid of the Sedition Act. So when he says in 1800, in his first inaugural, we're all Federalists, we're all Republicans, he's really saying we're not going to do this shutdown of free speech anymore.
SPEAKER 20 :
Wow. Okay. Who's the next president?
SPEAKER 11 :
The second, and they all take different forms, is President James Buchanan, a one-term president, but an extremely important one because of his threat to democracy. Now, Buchanan played it off in a way. I talk about really the idea of the presidency compared to these five of George Washington is so different than each of the five because it's all about the idea of modesty and protecting the Constitution. It's the idea that I'm championing in the book and that many of these citizens were championing. tends to be George Washington. He says that he's going to be a figure that really leaves it to the court to decide things, and he'll leave them alone to do that, to decide on the Constitution. But as the Dred Scott case is pending, a case that I think actually is the most evil in American history, it says essentially that black Americans are not citizens, have no rights under the And what Buchanan did is he lobbied the Supreme Court to decide that decision in that way. And so the hero of that cluster is really Frederick Douglass, who many abolitionists, Lloyd Garrison, for instance, thought the decision was so bad that it showed that the Constitution had to be abandoned. But this is a book, of course, not about abandoning the Constitution, but about rescuing it in the same way that the newspaper editors rescued the idea of free speech. What Frederick Douglass really does is Rescue the idea of equality that is implicit in the American Constitution. He says, for instance, take the first three words of the Constitution. We the people. It doesn't say we the white people. It says we the people. And he says that's an egalitarian idea of democracy. Take the ban on the idea that you can inherit the punishments of the of the crimes of parents. what's called the corruption of blood ban in the Constitution. And Douglass says that is a ban on slavery. What is slavery but an idea of inheriting the status of parents? And finally, the most important thing that he does, and this really is so much a part of our culture now, we don't even realize where it came from, is he says you have to take the Declaration of Independence and its guarantee of equality and read that into the Constitution. And his point is that if you read the Constitution that way, you can see why Buchanan and the court that decided Dred Scott are wrong, and the Constitution ultimately is right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Refresh my memory. How is that – Dred Scott, how was that reversed? How did that happen exactly? Was it the Civil War?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it's really at the behest of Douglass. That's the incredible part of the story that I tell, is that Douglass is really resisting Buchanan and actually has to flee the country. Buchanan wants to see him prosecuted. And he's making these speeches about the idea of equality in the American Constitution. And over time, once Lincoln is elected, Lincoln is skeptical of Douglass at first, and they are opponents. In particular, Lincoln is saying that the war is not about slavery, it's about union. And Douglass is really trying to persuade him to read the Constitution as he does, to see it as about the idea of we the people, not we the white people, as I said. And slowly, over time, Lincoln comes to embrace this idea. And by the time of Gettysburg, think of the amazing... lyrics at Gettysburg. It's a speech, but really it's a poem as well, the idea of government for, by, and of the people. That really is Douglass' idea of taking the Declaration. He also refers in the beginning of the speech, of course, not to the creation of the Constitution, but to the Declaration, using the Declaration to read the Constitution and to sanctify Gettysburg, the battlefield, with the ideas of equality with Douglass's ideas, just as Douglass has urged him to do. Ultimately, Lincoln pushes the 13th Amendment through Congress, which ends chattel slavery. The 14th Amendment ends the idea of not just inferiority, but second-class citizenship by demanding equal protection of the laws and granting birthright citizenship. All of those are a tribute to Douglass's ideas and at his behest. And it's really Lincoln, I think, gets the credit certainly for the 13th Amendment. But many of the ideas that are pushed through by the radical Republicans, the 14th Amendment, also originally really come from Douglass. He's saying all of this in the 1850s well before anybody else does. So what we think of as the core of the American Constitution, the second founding is sometimes called the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. Those are originally Douglas's ideas against the court of Dred Scott and championed by by Lincoln, the radical Republicans. And really, I think. If there's a hero of this time period, it's Ulysses Grant, who not only urges the passage of the 15th Amendment guaranteeing a right to vote, but uses that amendment to pass a series of laws called the Enforcement Acts that give the newly created Department of Justice the power to really protect black voters nationally. And more than a thousand cases are brought against Ulysses. white terrorists throughout the United States who had tried to shut down black voting. So it is a story of a citizen who just, like the editors, seems really a minority in terms of numbers view. I mean, very few people agree with Douglas at the time. And over time, he's able to bring on board two presidents and to really champion the passage of three amendments. And that's why the American Constitution is the one that we think of today, the one that we rightly defend and champion.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, Professor Brett Schneider, there are those that have said that the Constitution really addresses the usurpations or the grievances that are in the Declaration of Independence as a constitutional scholar. What's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think, you know, that is really the idea that we're talking about that both Douglas and eventually Lincoln came to share, that you have to read these ideas together. I think if you read them separately, there's a real danger. You could read the Constitution a very narrow way without values, really. And what the Declaration teaches us is that there are really two values that have to be understood throughout the Constitution and that they're not at odds with one another. They go together. And the really task of reading the document is to see how the values go together. And one is certainly the idea of freedom, such as the freedom of press. That's what we began with. And the freedom of speech. And not just in some abstract way, meaning the right to dissent, to even criticize the most powerful people in the country, like a president. And the second idea is an idea of equal citizenship, equality under law. And that's the idea, of course, that Douglas and Lincoln championed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. This is so fascinating. We're getting limited on time, but I'd like to hear briefly the other three presidents and the people on that. So who's our next president? Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
The next, I'll say a little bit about, but it takes place in the midst of the story that we've been telling, that as the country has pushed for a 13th Amendment, Soon after it, Lincoln, of course, is fascinated. In his last speech, he really is paying tribute to Douglass. Douglass is actually in the audience as is Booth, the murderer of Lincoln. And in the audience, Douglass watches him say, you know, black soldiers have played a big part in this role on behalf of the Union. They have to be given the right to vote. But after Lincoln's death, the vice president, who Lincoln had brought on board as an attempt to kind of I don't know, national unity, I think you'd call it, Andrew Johnson, is really a devoted white supremacist. He's not going to try to reverse the gain of the 13th Amendment, but he really opposes Douglass's idea of equal citizenship. So the story there is about how Douglass is able to overcome that. And really, the election of 1868 is the moment where it's most successful, the election of Ulysses Grant and the defeat of this really pretty terrible president who tried to bring America back into an age of slavery instead of letting it move forward. The fourth president I talked about is Woodrow Wilson, championed as a peacemaker and the hero of World War I. And I tell a very different story, which is that what you have in Wilson is a dangerous combination of both nationalism and white supremacy. He really is the first white nationalist president. And What I've done is I went into the archives, which nobody else had done. Wilson, like me, taught constitutional law. In fact, he taught many of the same classes that as a graduate student, I helped teach at Princeton. And in those classes, he lays out his view of America. And it's so different from George Washington's. the view that we think of as three branches of government, co-equal. He says, no, the president is the first among equals, and really on a German model should be pushing an idea of national efficiency, eviscerating the role of the states for local government. And what's important, though, is not just that he thought that, and there are problems, of course, with that on its own, but that he combined it with white supremacy. And the way he did that is he said there was a chief impediment of efficiency, and that impediment is what he called friction. And in friction, he said we have the enemy of efficiency. What is friction? It's integration. And so he does a number of things, including for the first time since Grant, he resegregates the federal government. And as the federal government is growing, he's really spreading the idea of segregation. And the story I tell there is of William Monroe Trotter, Ida B. Wells, activists who really confront this president and say Trotter had supported him. And he said, you know, why are you doing this? You're making black Americans into second class citizens. And Wilson says, no, I'm just trying to avoid friction. And in fact, you're creating friction and confronting me. So Wilson is often championed terribly as a great leader, and I'm telling a very different story there. And the last we began with, and that's Richard Nixon, and the story that I tell there is of the vast crimes way beyond Watergate that were being investigated, including an attempt that you can hear actually Nixon talk about on the Watergate tapes to break into a safe in the Brookings Institution where he thought there were documents showing that he had conspired with the Viet Cong before the war to try to prolong it in order to basically get himself elected. And he was so worried that this document would come out that he orders a break in of that safe. Now, why don't you know about that or any of the other crimes of Richard Nixon, including the attempt to incapacitate Daniel Ellsberg, his critic on the Capitol steps? It's because the pardon basically wiped that all away. We never had a prosecution. And part of the importance, to go back to our initial theme, of allowing prosecutions, even if they fail, is for the truth to come out, that we would just have gotten to see all these documents about Nixon's vast crimes beyond Watergate. And so part of what I did is I talked to the Watergate prosecutors about what the ongoing cases were. I talked at length to Daniel Ellsberg before he died about the crimes that were related to trying to stop him, even kill him, on the Capitol steps. And, you know, part of the point of it is, like, why do we all not know this? This is all news to people, and it has to do with the pardon. The pardon really took it all away. And I think the immunity case, to come back to it, is a different version of the danger of the pardon. It hides the truth from coming out. And in a real democracy, Americans should know the truth even about what their most powerful leaders are doing. And that really is why, although in these past crises we did recover, from the Sedition Act, and we did recover from Dred Scott, and we did recover from Wilson to a large extent, the nationalization of segregation. But what we haven't recovered from is the fact that presidents are seen as above the law, that far from no person being above the law, the current state of the law is that presidents are above the law. And I end with that call to think about what these heroes did, the editors, Frederick Douglass, those who fought Wilson, and to think, too, about in the current moment what we can do to ensure that truth really comes out. And it isn't a book, of course, it's not a partisan book. It talks about Wilson as a Democratic president, and many of the champions are Republicans, such as grant. But there are ideas of American democracy that have to be championed by all people, regardless of party. And one of them is the idea that no person should be above the law. And that's not an idea that we've really settled on.
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Okay. Professor Corey Bretschneider, your book, The Presidents and the People, Five Leaders Who Threaten Democracy and the Citizens Who Fought to Defend It. Thank you so much. This has been super informative.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And text line is 720-605-0647. And call-ins, we're taking call-ins, 303-477-5600. I'm going to go through some of the text messages that have come in. And this is from the first hour when I asked Dr. Joondepth about the drones. Lynn, one of our listeners, said that it may be that the government is creating the situation so they can use it for an excuse to create more regulation. That's a possibility. Something is going on. If the FBI says they've investigated it and there's nothing to worry about, that makes me very worried. Let's see here. This is from Gammy. She said it is a left and right issue, she believes. And then that everything is politically driven. And number three. Okay. I don't know exactly what she's talking about, but she mentions that there's a lot of complicity that's going on. Let's see. Oh, and then another listener said, aha, corruption of blood that the professor spoke of. That means reparations are wrong and perhaps illegal. I was thinking the same thing as he was saying corruption of blood. The idea... that there are those out there that are advocating to take from one person that has never owned slaves to give to another person who's never been a slave is beyond belief. And so, again, that's another thing that I'm going to do over the Christmas break is I'm going to sit down and go through the Declaration and the Constitution. It's been a while since I've done that, and so I want to do that as well. Let's see here. I wanted to get through just a few other little comments regarding January 6th. It seems that Professor Brettschneider had said that this immunity question was regarding January 6th. As we know, there's all kinds of political stuff around this whole January 6th, quote unquote, conspiracy theory. And if you watch what Trump said is for the people to go down, stand outside the Capitol and make their voices heard regarding Mike Pence certifying the electoral college votes. And there's to me, there's nothing conspiratorial at all about that. In fact, to me, that is the same thing as what Professor Schneider was saying, as we the people have made a difference. And the reason and I had had Shortly after January 6th, I had taken my rig and gone up and did a podcast with John Eastman, who was the visiting professor of conservative thought and policy up at CU and was also a Trump attorney. What what he said was, is that and he said that he and Trump and this was a few days before January 6th and Mike Pence, Mike Pence's attorney, Mike Pence's chief of staff said. and basically the question on the table was could Pence overturn the Electoral College, again, I'm doing this from memory, designations. And Eastman said no, but you could delay certification until these different state legislatures could get into session to review what had happened regarding their elections. You could delay it. And that was what Trump was asking the people to ask Pence to do. And it seems to me, and Trump is on tape, is saying peacefully assemble and have your voices heard. And so that seems to me like that is along the line of Professor Brett Schneider's book as well. But then we know, well, we kind of know what happened. Then we had the January 6th commission, which was very, very partisan, even though they had some Republicans on that commission. And so we're in a time right now when Dr. June Depth and I mentioned that we are in such an interesting time in history. And this is a time that we, the people, have to step forward and get government back into the proper roles, the proper boxes that the Declaration and the Constitution says that they're supposed to be in. I do think that what's going to happen is doubling down and pushing these radical agendas at the local level, municipal, county, and state. So we're going to work on starting our own DOGE Colorado on that. And I think one of the first things to do is the federal government has to stop these grants that are being awarded in all of these different areas. And that's, I think, the first place to start. and once we uh you know rein in the money and we don't have the money we have all kinds of debt we're running deficits that would be a first step and i think that that would be highly successful our quote for the end of the show is from general george patton and the battle of the bulge uh started on this day in 1944 and then in um let's see and the um boston tea party started this day as well but patton said this no man can do anything without knowing what he is doing let the american soldier know what he is fighting for and why when we let him know what has to be done he will do it and i think you could say the same regarding the american people so my friends today be grateful read great books think good thoughts listen to beautiful music communicate and listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and like superman stand for truth justice and the american way my friends you are not alone god bless you and god bless america
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This compelling episode brings forth the story of a man who became a jungle instructor amidst the chaos of Vietnam War—a role that brought him close to many dangerous engagements and expanding his knowledge through deep connections with Army Special Forces. With memories of intense battles, including the infamous Cottey River Bridge, Carl Leppard narrates his gripping experiences, the courage required to face relentless challenges, and the indelible mark these events left on his life.
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World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and our other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's veteran stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
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And welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. And the show comes to you because of a trip that I took in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans to Normandy, France, for the 72nd anniversary of the D-Day landings. And returned stateside realizing that we need to know the stories of our military. We need to record them and broadcast them and archive them. So, hence, America's Veterans Stories. I'm pleased to have on the line with me Carl Leppard. He is a Vietnam veteran. Carl, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Carl, let's begin at the beginning. Where did you grow up? Tell us a little bit about you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, Dallas, Texas, principally. I went to Bryan Adams High School, et cetera, joined the Marine Corps there. On my 17th birthday.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it is what it is. That was a serious experience in January of 1963. It was colder than blazes out in California at San Diego.
SPEAKER 09 :
So your 17th birthday, oh my gosh, you were, so the day before you were 16 years old. So did your parents have to sign for you to join the Marines at the age of 17?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, actually they did. I joined when I was 16, but until I became 17 on December the 6th of 1962, I then I could not get into service. And when I did in 1962 in December, there were not enough Marines to form a platoon. So I was there actually through December of 62 until the company was formed on January the 3rd of 63.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Carl Leppard, why did you decide to join the Marines, particularly at such a young age?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, to be blunt, my family, my mother had remarried, and that wasn't satisfactory to me, shall we say. And I predicted that... There was a war coming somewhere, but if I got into the Marine Corps and got out, theoretically, I would have the GI Bill go to college and proceed on. like I knew what I was doing. The only problem, of course, is we got into a war, and then second, after I got out, I found that the GI Bill was worthless.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, really? Okay. Well, you were right. The war was coming. So set this up. Many of us don't quite know the history of how we got into Vietnam. And, of course, you were there during, I think, the really hot times as well. But you're in in 63. So what happens after that, Carl Leppard?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I mean, I went to recruit training at San Diego and then at infantry training on Camp Pendleton. Actually, we had a very good unit. The way the Marine Corps worked, at least at that time, is you had two different divisions, one on the east coast, one on the west. One went to the Mediterranean on their normal, as we say, cruise. And the other goes to the 3rd Marine Division on Okinawa for further training and so forth and protection of that particular area. So we trained with Marines that had returned from Okinawa tour. Generally those gentlemen went out and were discharged and we prepared, they helped prepare us. And then we rotated over to Okinawa later in the year of 1964. So we had been training for, oh, I'd say 10 months or so. And then we went afloat, as they say, and we went by ship, the USS Mann, over to Okinawa. and replaced a Marine unit over there, and we changed our company from Delta Company, 1st Battalion, 1st Marines. We became H Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. Sorry, 3rd Marines, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Marines.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
We then trained on Okinawa.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and I bet many of your instructors were World War II veterans, yes?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, we had a few. Very few. We had some that were Korean veterans.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
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If we back up a little bit of a second, I have to blame some of my experience on the Boy Scouts. I think the Boy Scouts are one of the reasons I'm alive today. A lot of people came from cities and so forth and so on. They were not comfortable in jungle conditions or, put it this way, living off the land or knew a little bit about themselves, right? And so you had to learn that. But my interest early on was in scuba diving, which was quite rarely done at that time, and also parachuting. Actually, while I was at 1st Battalion, 1st Marines, there at Camp San Mateo on Camp Pendleton, I had my own dive equipment and my own parachute. Oh, my gosh. I was a curious guy, and I jumped with people over at Force Recon Marines and other Marines over at Lake Elsinore and became acquainted with them. Fast forward, if I can try to catch you up here a little.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is great.
SPEAKER 04 :
They sent me to Map and Aero Photo School.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Map and Aero Photo School, what happens is that the Marines are generally not provided with what we call FOs, Forward Observers. Okay. We actually had one in Vietnam. I communicate with him every day. As a matter of fact, he sends me a prayer, as I got this morning, every day. Captain Wilson. So I appreciate Captain Wilson. I never saw him in Vietnam. He was in the headquarters with the company commander all the time. And I never saw him. But... what happens is uh people that are trained at map and arrow photo school if you need artillery or or something of that nature you have at least one experienced person right that's capable of doing that and that would be me so due to some other uh instance it'd probably take a little bit of time they had an opening at force recon at at Del Mar camp there on the coast at Oceanside. And I was sent there to become a force recon marine. Upon my return back to battalion to remove my effects, some of those effects that I had left, I was asked to join our unit as an aggressor in a night operation in which I was shot in the face. and blinded there for, oh, probably six weeks. So I did not return to force recon. And so when we landed and my eyes became better, I didn't lose my eyes. Thank God for that. And my company commander elected to take me along on our transfer to overseas. And when we arrived, within a couple of days, the sergeant major of the battalion, Sergeant Major Potts, called me to the office and essentially apologized for not sending me to force because of my eyes and that sort of thing. He thought I was best suited to be a jungle instructor and so forth, so they sent me to jungle instructor school and then I began teaching special forces and all marine units on Okinawa came through that school.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so Carl Leppard, you must be exhibiting something that your company commander thinks is important, that he's first of all going to apologize and then he wants you to become an instructor. What is that exactly that's special about you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that probably could be self-serving comment, I guess. I was also a karate person.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
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And I used to run barefoot at about three miles per day on my own. We had what we call a makawara. It is a Japanese punching board that you plant in the ground. And at the end, I would exercise on that. Well, in a very quiet setting, you could hear whack, whack, whack across the entire regiment. Everyone knew who was making that sound. Okay. So that's why. A little bit kind of different, and plus— I had my own firearms and I shot my own firearms regularly. I was probably the only person in the regiment who actually had a range card, which means that I can call the provost marshal and take a range hot on my own. I can schedule a range for my shooting at any time. Because I was certified for that purpose, and they would make it so the entire base knew who was on this range firing ammunition on a Sunday. Okay, okay. So everyone kind of, I guess, I'm sorry to say it, they pretty well knew, no, everyone knew who I was. Okay. To the point that it was such an aggravation that the regimental guard was ordered to cut my macawara down to the ground. Okay. to give some people some relief on a Sunday or on a Saturday or when everybody else was on liberty.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, yes, I mean, you had someone that went to Mapinero Photo School. You had a person that had his own dive equipment, his own parachute, that had his own guns, that loaded his own ammunition. that shot frequently when everybody else was going some other place and doing something else. So, yes, looking back, I think I was kind of strange.
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I didn't say strange. I would say driven and unique. I might say unique as well. I'm talking with Carl Leppard. He's a Vietnam veteran and fascinating story. The show comes to you because we have a number of great sponsors and appreciate each and every one of them.
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And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. I'm talking with Carl Leppard. He is a Vietnam veteran. He's a Marine. And we were talking about how you were best suited to be a jungle instructor. And you said during break that you'd left out a detail. What detail is that?
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Well, when I mentioned force recon, that's a very restricted unit. At that time, there were two openings there. Marines from all over who might want to join that unit are put through a rigorous test. It is very difficult to get into a force recon unit, all right? And so, but what I missed and didn't say What happened was is that when we had all of these Marines returning from Okinawa who had rank on all of us who were there at Camp San Mateo, it blocked our increase of rank. And we were not happy. So I called for a little meeting of people who wanted to chat about it at 1600. That's when normally we get off. Outside my squad bay. And lo and behold, we had about 100 men there. Uh-oh. So somebody saw this gathering and sent down the regimental guard and had us disperse. Okay, so they called me up to battalion with a loose charge of mutiny.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. You don't call Marines. I said, look, I didn't call these guys out. I said, we need to chat about this situation or whatever, and everybody showed up. And we did have the officer of the day standing right there next to me, so it couldn't have been a mutinous activity. So in any case, they were getting ready to fry me for breakfast. And so the Sergeant Major intervened and thought that perhaps because of my, quote, leadership skills and my ability to jump and scuba dive and been to Mapnero Photo School and was a karate expert hand-to-hand, etc., etc., that maybe I would be better suited for force recon, which was exciting.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
So nothing happens by mistake in the Marine Corps or casually. You just don't up and move. Someone has to move you. So when we arrived on Okinawa, naturally the sergeant major sent for me and said, I was sorry because I got shot in the face and was not allowed to return to my unit, etc., and thought I would be excellent over there as a jungle instructor, in which I was. So while our battalion did a number of things and moved off and went to... Mount Fuji in Japan and so forth and so on I was training Special Forces and First Special Forces in Okinawa and all other battalions of Marines and so forth that went through jungle school These are a live fire situation Wow So I also Which probably is important at this juncture to know is that Part of my duty was handling the ranges that we had. These ranges were for artillery and for airstrikes. So basically I would monitor these ranges within 1,000 yards by heavy binoculars and so forth. I would use my rifle because I was an expert rifleman. I would remove people from the impact zone using a .308 M14 rifle at often 1,000 yards.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so question, you said it was live fire, but how did you remove them?
SPEAKER 04 :
By putting rounds around them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, got it. Without hitting them. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I don't think I say much in my book about that because it's probably a little sensitive.
SPEAKER 09 :
You think?
SPEAKER 04 :
It does also, it does talk about us being ridge runners. We had an additional piece of duty at night. Major McMillan was my commanding officer. He was the only one to sweep the 1962, I think, Olympics. He had no one with him that could not shoot offhand with a rifle at 500 yards. Today, I hold world records at 1,600, 500, and 200 yards open sight with a pistol, my own design. Wow. I shoot fairly well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it sounds like it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. But the ridge runners, what would happen is I would call. We may have an airstrike coming in, and I would have to communicate then that we had high-angle artillery in their area and so forth control their firing, and I would make a record of what detonated and possibly what did not. The villagers would hide in ravines and in between firing would run out into the impact zone and grab unexploded ordnance and run back into the ravines. And then we'd take them into town or a village somewhere and disassemble those and sell the parts and the gunpowder or whatever and C4, whatever. And occasionally one part of a village would blow up. So we needed to interdict this. So we had McMillan Ridge Runners, and we would get in our trucks, and they would drive along the trails and so forth, roads and so forth up in there at night, and we'd roll off the tailgate, and we'd go down into these ravines with generally an entrenching tool, and we would wait, and they would come down like a parade with their... gatherings or whatever, and we would educate them with our entrenching tools, you know, reclaim all the undetonated ordinance and, you know, bring these people back to, quote, justice.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
So that was kind of interesting and People don't know much about that. But in Vietnam, then, it explains a little bit more about a battle I was in over there. So, yes, I talked the slide for life, which was a manner in which you rapidly go from, say, a high cliff to an ocean setting if you needed to get off it. that beach or that area quickly, rappelling with ropes sideways, backwards, forwards, a number of different ways with wounded and so forth and so on. Rope bridges, I taught how to build all of those, demonstrated all of those, rappelling off of those, explosives, mines, etc., Then we had live fire areas where we'd carry you through. We had pop-up targets in the jungle and teach jungle mines and booby traps and things of that nature to bring everybody up to speed on those and how to make them. So it was a very good piece of training for all the Marines, for sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
So it seems like I had interviewed Colonel Bob Fisher, and he realized early on that guerrilla warfare would be very important if we got into a war with Vietnam. And he said that some of the higher-ups didn't believe him, but clearly you probably were teaching guerrilla warfare in this jungle training, correct? Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
That is correct, but let me back up a second. In the United States, each regiment, which is roughly 3,000 men without attachments, okay, they compete. They compete in all manner of things and so forth. You know, platoon formations, your effectiveness to engage an enemy force, all the way down to driving a Jeep if you're a Jeep driver in the company. Bottom line with that is that the very best of that regiment, one company is made a raider company. They then, that is the very best, and they then take on different types of training that the other units do not. And that is submarine training, rubber boat training. They are an elite unit, okay? And so they are super trained, if that's a word for that. If there is a problem, they're the boys that get it. And so if you're in trouble, that's the boys who come to your relief. And everybody knows who they are. So when we're now back on, say, Okinawa, jungle instruction and things of that nature is paramount. Marines train all the time, heavy all the time. But when you're in a particular area, If you're in, let's say, the Mediterranean, your training is a lot different. When you're in the area of Okinawa and so forth and so on, now you're in jungle training. And so your jungle instructor is the guy that they call on if we're in Vietnam in a particular area, position, or things of that nature. If something needs to be booby-trapped, mined, This or the other, he's the guide. He's the guy that you go to. So we had one jungle instructor in our company. I don't know if we had any others that went to Math and Aerophoto School or not. Obviously, I was, and often used. Okay, so...
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. This is absolutely fascinating. I'm talking with Carl Leppard. He is a Marine veteran, served during the Vietnam War. How many years were you in the Marines, Carl?
SPEAKER 04 :
Four.
SPEAKER 09 :
Four.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I needed to get out, actually. I needed surgery pretty bad. I was wounded, well, if you count, 15 times or so, but only about seven were fairly serious. Wow. The Marines didn't know where I was. I've learned that in recent years. I didn't know back then. But I was asked to leave. I was just not in good shape. I had a bullet drain in my trapezius. My shoulder was damaged. I had shrapnel in my throat. I had a bullet drain in my side. So I was kind of, I needed to come down.
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Oh, it sounds like it. And your book is The Warriors, the United States Marines, and people can find it on eBay. And it was first printed in 1984 and looks like a very important book. So we're going to continue the discussion. and they realized that we need to keep the stories of our Medal of Honor recipients alive, and we need to instill in ourselves these values, American principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So I would recommend that you take a trip down to Pueblo, which is known as the home of heroes, because there's four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there, and visit the Center for American Values. For more information, you can go to AmericanValuesCenter.org. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. We will be right back with Carl Leppard.
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and welcome back to america's veteran stories with kim munson be sure and check out our website that is americasveteranstories.com and as many of you know another non-profit that i really support on both my shows is the usmc memorial foundation and we have the official marine memorial right here in colorado In Golden at 6th and Colfax, it's time for a remodel. It was dedicated in 1977. So Paula Sarles, who is a Marine veteran, a Gold Star wife, and president of the foundation, and her team are working diligently to raise the money for the Marine Memorial. And so more information, you can go to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And I am talking with a Marine veteran, and that is Carl Leppard regarding the Vietnam War. And so you've done all this training on Okinawa. What else should we know about your time in Okinawa, Carl Leppard?
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Well... I became very close with some Army Special Forces people. What happened was my battalion had gone to the Philippines, and then it went on to Japan. I'm stuck but don't know anything about that at the time, but I'm stuck doing instructive business. We had two areas of major training. One was northern training area, heavy jungle, very wet. And then we had the middle of the island off of Camp Hanson there where I trained and another school. We had three different ones and I trained people in all three schools. But that included First Special Forces Delta Company who had their own, you know, Viet Cong or Vietnamese village built on a beach there. And they trained from using bows and arrows, actually, snipers like that, live fire operations. And so I was their jungle instructor. So I jumped with Delta Force, 1st Special Forces, at Yantan Airfield, an old airfield there, Japanese airfield. And until the commanding general of 5th Forces arrived, looked up and saw there was somebody with an odd parachute jumping with boys. And he wanted to know, who in the hell is that? So he called his colonel over and said, who is that? I'm trying to think his name was... Shoot, I can't think of his name now. Okay. Was it Paxton? But in any case, the general said, over 5th Special Forces Group was standing there, and so he brought the colonel over to Special Forces and said, who the hell is that? And he said, oh, well, that's their jungle instructor. So he brought me over there, and I'm a Lance Corporal at the time, and he looks and says, what? And, you know, he was mystified. Bottom line is, is that until his death, I sold him guns to him as a civilian and his sons, his three sons, et cetera, et cetera, until he passed away. But in any case, I'm just thinking of him now. So that gentleman that I associated with then became command sergeant major of all special forces, and I still see him today. So in any case, I came in from jungle. Normally we would come in around noon. The men at the jungle school would retire to eat, et cetera, and we came in to change clothes. Our clothes were often ripped and, you know, in bad condition. We'd strip right on the floor when we came back into barracks. shower quickly, change into new clothes, go back to the field like nothing had happened, and do it again. Meanwhile, we had Okinawans that would repair our clothing, clean our clothing, starch press, do everything for us, etc. On one of these returns, I had just put on, or was finishing putting on my utilities, which are your fatigue uniforms, if that's what you call those, and three helicopters landed in the yard of our facility, and a reasonably short fellow to me came in, and he had one star on his collar, a brigadier general. Didn't know his name. And he had only one decoration on his chest. Medal of Honor. For years, I never knew who this gentleman was. Never knew his name. He wasn't introduced. And so bottom line is, it says in my book, he handed me a folio, I think. A brown envelope. And he said, you are ordered to return to your unit in Vietnam. You were to board my helicopter now. So you reach up, you grab your field transport pack, and I grabbed a few items that I used, trip wire, some other things for booby traps and stuff like that, put them in my grenade pouch, and then stepped on his helicopter to Kadena, looked around for... a transport aircraft, a KC-130, as it turned out, and there were some recon Marines that were boarding that helicopter, and I asked the lieutenant if I could join him. I had orders to go to Vietnam, etc. Now, these are verbal orders. You know, I never talked to our company commander. I never talked to a SOLE. So we boarded on a hell, you know, your order to go to China, you go, I mean, and you find your way that's expected. So in any case, what's interesting about this is the man's name, the officer I was speaking to was Lieutenant Reisner. I boarded with that recon group. And we went to Vietnam. The prisoner died shortly thereafter, a month or so later, Medal of Honor. Okay, so now we arrive in Vietnam. It's hotter than Hades, and my battalion is company. My battalion is nowhere to be found. Actually, they're afloat, right, and they are down in Thailand. And they were on their way back to the Philippines when they were instructed to turn left and to land off of Da Nang. Well, I was already there. So with nothing to do, I think it was called, shoot. Well, we had the recon guys, but there was a Navy contingent there. Our business was doing depth samples and checking the beach landing area. thousand yards wide, 500 yards deep, clearing it of any mines, anything of that nature, in preparing for our company to land on the beach. So I aided those guys, happy to be with them and to stay with them, et cetera, until my unit arrived. Here they land on the beach, and I'm already there. So we moved in fairly rapidly across the Bryan area there, came under attack from mortars from a place called the French Fort, which is about four miles north of Da Nang and probably four miles inland, on the Cottey River itself, the northern river boundary of Da Nang. So we diverted some withdrew back to Highway 1 and were able to gain some truck transportation to a particular area. I plotted all naval gunfire registrations to protect the battalion on its left flank. And those are, unfortunately, or well, fortunately maybe, you don't write on a map, right? But I had my own map case after map and aerial photo school. I had an original map in my grenade pouch. I plotted all of the impact zones. If we got hit, my job was to obliterate everything on our southern flank. So those are recorded on the map in a, as we say in the book business, if that's the word, a double truck, meaning a left and right page is that original map. It has the original coordinates of gunfire registrations in Vietnam, the first ones ever recorded, certainly by the Marine Corps, which is kind of interesting. So now we're there, and we found ourselves at the bottom of a hill called 312 to our south on that same hill. mountain ridge line with Hill 327 we had another battalion down there which became 39 people rotated in and out and so we protected the northern northwestern quadrant of the Da Nang area there it was interesting what we were told is that we would probably be in there 30 days. I didn't think that that was the case. It's kind of hard to do a landing with all your assets, tanks, machinery, everything to bulldozers, everything, on a beach and then turn back around and go back out the same way. Didn't figure 30 days was going to work. But in any case, as we've learned later, General Walt, as General Green told me, the commandant of the Marine Corps told me, that they had planned to get out by December of 65.
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So this is all a very temporary thing. Essentially, you had a bunch of Doberman pincers out here in a fixed position and chomping at the leash, and you needed to do something. So from a beach landing, it became an incursion, which is a little different. And we are protected by Navy ships while we get settled in and get our own artillery located, et cetera. So our ships were generally destroyers. We had two at that time, the USS Craig and the USS Stoddard. And they were under the direct command of General Wallace Green. which is very important, I think, to know at this time. So we had some difficulty with some Viet Cong, and we had quite a few of them in the area. Just below Da Nang, across the river there, we had about 6,000 Viet Cong in that area. And then spread out directly south down to the Chula area, we had Kamala Sea. There were about 7,000 there. In total, there were 16,000 massed below us. Wow. So at that time, we had two battalions. That's about 2,000 Marines. We can generally handle five to seven to one, so we're not too bad if they only aggress us with 5,000 or so. We can generally kind of handle that. But we were spread very thin, and we had extreme restrictions. We had a tactical area of responsibility. That means you don't go beyond that line. The northern part of that tactical area was called the Cottey River. There is a bridge there called the Cottey River Bridge. You go across it to go up the coast of Vietnam to a number of other areas. And to the south of Da Nang, and I'm sorry, that bridge, i think it's a too long river there's a number of little bitty rivers that all join it so specifically there is a bridge there we were not able to cross it there's an infamous town that was located right there called cam knee on the south side and so um We had a lot of trouble out of that village, and they were resupplied every night, and we'd fight them every day and so forth. So at some juncture then, I moved down there. But I was with 2nd Battalion, 3rd Marines. We ventured to the edge of our tactical area of responsibility, which is about 10 miles inland with a high mountain called Dong Din. The enemy, of course, they hide in the mountains, and they come down in the villages and so forth generally at night, get resupplied, and go back out. It's kind of like vampires.
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Okay. Hey, Carl, let's go to break. We've got one more segment after this. This is absolutely fascinating. I'm talking with Marine veteran Carl Leppard, and his book is The Warriors, the United States Marines. And we will be right back.
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From the mountains to the prairies,
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Welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. I am talking with Marine veteran Carl Leppard. And I realize as we, during this break, that we will have to have a part two of an interview with you because we have not even uncovered a whole lot of the information. So this is part one. And let's talk about this battle, the Coddy River Bridge. Talk a little bit about that, Carl Leppard. Mm-hmm.
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Yes, the County River Bridge was the northern weakest point, but also the end of our tactical area of responsibility. In other words, the government of Vietnam, the warlord, General T., in that area, allowed us only a specific area that we could go into. So an enemy essentially could run across the Coddy River Bridge, and we couldn't touch them. We couldn't pursue them. Okay. But on our northern end, which is fairly secure for Da Nang, there's nothing below Da Nang but just brine and nothingness, right, all the way to Da Nang Airfield, which is about four miles away. But we needed it protected. Okay. Okay, so they sent the 3rd Platoon elements of the 3rd Platoon of Hotel Company, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Marines under Lieutenant, 2nd Lieutenant Reeder to set up on the south side of that bridge to keep that bridge not only from being blown up, but to interdict anyone trying to cross it. So we had it heavily mined along the... railroad track itself in the footbridge. So in any case, our regimental commander at the time was Colonel Wheeler, General Wheeler later. He drove down to the bridge and told Lieutenant Reeder, our company commander, to not lose that bridge. Actually, if he lost the bridge, we'd all be dead anyway, so including the man giving me the order. But he wanted to stress to take whatever precautions he needed and to be sure. What we did not know at the time was that there was a unit called the 7th VC Battalion. It was a strike force, and it pulled an envelopment. In other words, it went from the south, below the South River there, Tucson, around our west flank and came down through the mountains on the open plain on the 28th of July, 1965, an entire battalion. This was a strike force, a killing force. They all carried fully automatic weapons. They also had a mortar contingent, which makes it heavy. And so, be that as it may, Lieutenant Reeder sent me across the other side of the bridge, which was illegal, but to give adequate warning and to stop anybody on the other side of that bridge and to let them know if someone was trying to pass and so forth, etc. I was attacked in the early areas of darkness there. And as it turned out, a very large force. I called in a mayday, mayday, mayday. General Walt sent me the USS Craig first. She came in shooting. With its illumination, we identified more than 600 enemy who were trying to cross that bridge. They were formed in a manner of march. I engaged that enemy, and then during the ensuing battle there, the USS Craig was joined by the USS Stoddard, and those two ships assisted me in destroying the 7th VC. We killed all of them to the man. So that ended about 3 a.m. It started around 9. So they fired from me until the ship, Craig, ran out of ammunition or very extremely low on it, and the rest was the Craig. But the final element of this battalion, I put 250 rounds of HEVT, or in the words of the Navy, fused quick on top of the remaining enemy force until they were all eliminated so okay during break you said that you uh had found some orders from the um the enemy yes at the time i had no earthly idea i mean we're marines we don't care about such things yes there was a lot of enemy as it turned out but we do our job i mean it's not you know uh but I had no idea about this battle. I mean, nobody asked for a debriefing. I took after-action photography from a three-story building, showing the damage and so forth and so on. Kept it. No one ever said a thing. I never really paid much attention to it. It's my job. In my book, it talks about the battle, but doesn't go into much detail, really. The book is not about me. It's about points that I want to make. But in any case, by accident, someone, Bill Scott, as a matter of fact, heard someone, Sergeant Davis, talking about this battle, and he had my book open to that audience. to that page and queried him about it. How is it that this happened in a way he knows about it type thing? So in any case, if I'm trying to make it short, we investigated it now because back in 1980 when I first contacted the Navy trying to find out the ships that supported me, it was very difficult. Their records were not available. And so Texas University now, they have all of the, or most all, of all of the Vietnam records there. So we were able to access it, and we found that this battle was intentionally hidden. As it turned out, and unknown to me really at the time, half of that battalion were Chinese. The rest were NVA. This is North Vietnamese Army. And so now we know that this was a real bad thing. Had they got beyond me, we only had 20 Marines there. There was no one between us and the Da Nang Air Base and the 3rd Marine Headquarters. And if they put 6,000 men across that damn bridge to the south and we get engaged by a battalion from the north, we're done here. I mean, we are done here. So in collecting this information, I was researching the commanders that I was against, and I came across a document in a Vietnamese historical record that I found today on the Internet, which obviously you couldn't do in the 80s or even 90s. And this document I turned over to Texas University because they didn't have a copy of it either. And this one is an official Marine Corps document, intelligence document, and it clearly states their purpose. It says that they intended to lose 5,000 men, and they would kill every living thing breathed air on that base. Okay. So all that had to happen is this battalion to cross that damn bridge, blow the bugle, because communications they didn't really have. and to hit that base from the north, and we'd been done. Now, there were 16,000 of them down at Chuai, which is probably, oh, 15 miles south or so. We had two battalions down there well spread apart. Again, 16,000, you don't have a chance.
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Well, hey, Carl Leppard, we're out of time. We're going to have to keep this as a cliffhanger for your next interview, and we will get that scheduled. I truly appreciate you taking the time to share this with our listeners. Thank you.
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My pleasure.
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Okay, my friends, indeed, it is apparent we do stand on the shoulders of giants. So God bless you, and God bless America.
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In this episode, Mike Geller shares a jubilant yet concerned reflection on the state of America. Celebrating the overwhelming success of the Prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign, listeners are thanked for their generosity, which has surpassed previous records. Amidst this celebration of giving, Mike delves into a hard-hitting discussion about the Biden administration's controversial decision to auction off unused border wall materials. The implications of this decision and its impact on Donald Trump's incoming administration are analyzed with fervor as Mike engages listeners with a passionate plea for accountability and transparency.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
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I do my best to stay positive. How can I not be happy? I'm with friends, family. I'm in the upstate of South Carolina where I needed an ice scraper for my window this morning. We don't have ice scrapers in Florida. So I didn't bring an ice scraper with me. But, boy, it's chilly here. But it feels good because it's making the blood rush. And I'm feeling Christmassy. And I start the day today. By getting to share with you, we have exceeded our Prison Fellowship Angel Tree Christmas campaign. Right now we have 5,431 children sponsored. They're going to get Bibles, Christmas presents, and a message from their incarcerated mom and dad. mom or dad. The goal was 5,416. We're already at 5,431. We've never hit the goal this close or this early. So thank you. Let's keep the momentum going. Heck, maybe we'll get, I don't know, 6,000, 7,000. Thousands of children are going to receive the love of God and the love of their parent. And unbeknownst to that child, It's not the mom or dad sending the Christmas present. It's you. You're doing this. So thank you for getting us over our goal just two weeks into the campaign. I am overwhelmed with gratitude. So I try to stay positive. I have so much to be grateful for, and I am in an eternal state of gratitude for this job, for this show. Look, we're like one big dysfunctional family. We normally agree. Sometimes we don't agree. Yesterday there was a caller, Gwen, that I mixed it up with pretty good. I got feedback that somebody in Portland, Oregon, was rattled by my exchange with Gwen. And as Christian from my team said, wait a minute, they live in Portland, Oregon, and a feisty phone call rattles them? That's what upsets you? Look, be safe, Portland. When you're driving around downtown, you better roll your windows up and lock the doors. I'm not sure me getting into a heated exchange with a Kamala supporter who hates Donald Trump should rattle you. You need to maybe take a breath and think about perspective a little bit. But this rattles me. You want to talk about being angry? It's been reported and revealed that the Biden administration... is racing to sell pieces of the border wall at about $5 a clip in order to sabotage Trump's efforts to seal the border. In the final days of the Biden... You let that sink in. You let that sink in that in the final days of the Biden administration... They're selling unused border wall segments for $5 each at government auction. It's pure sabotage by Joe Biden and his henchmen. They want to deliver a last blank you, as Charlie Kirk perfectly put it, to Donald Trump and the 76 million Americans who elected him to protect our border. This is Biden's legacy. Joe Biden is going to go down as one of the most disgraceful, miserable, despised presidents of our lifetime. Biden makes Jimmy Carter look like Ronald Reagan. Weeks before Trump takes office, Biden is racing to auction off unused border wall materials. Now, I saw the Texas lieutenant governor. Dan Patrick is declaring that Texas is prepared to bid on every piece being sold by the Biden administration and then give it directly to Donald Trump. I mean, I am so sickened by the lack of accountability by this administration, and I am physically sick. This is what Biden wants to do to the American people. He's not doing it to Donald Trump. He's not doing it to the border czar. He's not doing it to the incoming administration. Charlie Kirk is right. They're sticking it to the 76-plus million Americans who want the border secure. And I am... It is a grotesque... A grotesque confirmation... of the destroyed legacy of Joe Biden. I don't even know if he's making these decisions. Who knows? Who cares? We've got a few weeks to go before the inauguration. And incidentally, we'll be at the inauguration. Joey Hudson's coming with me. Joey's going to be reporting from the ceremony. I'll be in our Mike Gallagher Show studios in Virginia. We're going to go to the ball. You have a chance to go to the ball, too. Do you have that liner, Eric, from the dock cut? Let's play that for everybody to let them know how you might be able, you could attend. Some lucky winners are going to get to attend President Trump's inauguration on January 20th.
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I hope you win. I hope everybody gets to appreciate how everything is going to change. And everything is changing. But to watch the Biden administration try to do a last-minute blank you to the incoming Trump administration, it is positively grotesque. And that's perhaps why I get fired up with people like Gwen yesterday who want to call a show and claim that Trump is a rapist and a convict and a con man and Kamala would have been the hope and joy of America. Yeah, this is real hope and joy. Sell off at auction. The auction website shows that the sales occurred as recently as December 4th. They are, it is insane. And look, Dan Patrick, here he is, cut 17 last night with Laura Ingram on Fox News. The state of Texas is absolutely prepared to buy up every piece of that unused border wall. Here's what the great lieutenant governor of Texas told Laura last night.
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We mean business in Texas, and Tom Holman means business, and President Trump means business. And I don't know if you heard the latest today, Laura, but Joe Biden is now hauling off the border wall that's been lying down for years, and he wants to auction it off starting at $5 apiece. Message the White House right now. I will bid on all of that wall, and we will buy it in Texas, and we will give it to Donald Trump. So I'm going to find out first thing in the morning where we're going to take the bid. I've got a billion dollars in my pocket to do it. I write the budget with Senator Joan Huffman. We have the money. We're going to have about six billion in our budget for border security.
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Don't drive up the cost. Don't drive up the cost. The first bid is only five bucks, five bucks a piece of the wall. And I will go in and buy it all. I'M NOT GOING TO DRIVE UP.
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WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
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WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU ABOUT THE BIDEN PEOPLE?
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They're despicable what they're doing to the American people. And the American people obviously aren't going to tolerate it. That's why they were thrown out. But the idea, we've been trying to buy this wall from them for four years and they wouldn't sell it to us. And you know what? I'm going to check in with our Department of Public Safety. Maybe we need to start pulling over these trucks to be sure they don't have too much weight on those trucks. Maybe these trucks need to be slowed down. We need to do everything we can in Texas to stop them. The taxpayers paid for this and they want to stop. President Trump in 38 or 39 days from rebuilding the wall. I want to this the legacy of Joe Biden. He lets off his son. He's letting off all these criminals. He's doing everything he can with these blue state governors and mayors to destroy this country. They are traitors to this country, leaving terrorists. leaving murderers, leaving rapists in this country, and now he wants to sabotage this president before he takes off. It is disgraceful and disgusting. He will go down as the worst, most despicable president in the history of this country because no one has done more to damage this country and hurt American citizens.
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Is there anything that you just heard Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick say that you disagree with? Isn't he right? Isn't it true that with this move, desperately auctioning off the remaining pieces of the unused border wall just to stick it to Donald Trump? Isn't he going to go down as the most despicable, despised, failed president in American history? 800-655-MIKE. Again, I want to stay positive. Things are changing. January 20th, we'll be here in the blink of an eye. It's going to be here before you know it. This is, after all, Friday, December the 13th. But let me get your reaction to this. Well, it ought to be shocking news, but considering this bunch of Democrats, it's not that surprising. Selling off unused border wall just to screw the American people. I am sick to my stomach. 800-655-MIKE. We hope you join us. Call or text. We're in the beautiful upstate of South Carolina, like I said, in the studios of 98.9 WORD, the voice of the Carolinas. So great to be back home again. Big Christmas party tomorrow night for the station. I can't wait to catch up with friends. And our colleagues here at WORD. And what great hosts here. I'm always reminded of the lineup. Tara, Bill Frady, who is just magnificent. Charlie James, who's extraordinary. Tara's great in the mornings. Joey Hudson and yours truly, Mike Gallagher, part of the WORD lineup. So proud to be able to celebrate Christmas. with our colleagues here in the upstate of South Carolina. So welcome in to the Relief Factor studios. Again, join us. Give me your reaction to this news about the Biden administration and what they're doing. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. What happens when the power is out, your phone says no service, and the grid is down? Do you have a backup plan? If you don't have a satellite phone from sat123.com, you're risking way more than just missed calls. A satellite phone from sat123.com keeps you connected no matter what. You could be miles from civilization or in the middle of a natural disaster. This phone works when everything else fails. It's your lifeline when the world goes dark. And let's be real. These days, anything can happen. But with Sat123.com, you're prepared. Sat123.com is committed to American values. They believe in reliability and quality that you can trust when it matters the most. Don't wait until it's too late. Head over to Sat123.com. Use the promo code Gallagher for $25 off. Gallagher, G-A-L-L-A-G-H-E-R, Sat123.com, promo code Gallagher for $25 off. Protect yourself, protect your family, and stay connected with Sat123.com.
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With a corncob pipe and a button nose and two eyes made out of coal.
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Mike Gallagher. Text message on the MyPillow text line. Obama is behind it all. He's been selling out this country since he landed on the scene. Of course, can't let his puppet Biden off the hook. They are traitors. How else do you describe the auctioning off of remaining unused border wall at $5 a pop right before the Trump administration comes into office, when Biden knows what Trump is going to do, it's sickening. It's beyond sickening. Is traitor too strong a word? Is traitor too difficult? Or a bridge too far? 800-655-MIKE. Let's start with Pat up in Connecticut. Hey, Pat, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. How are you?
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Is that me?
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That's you, Pat. How are you?
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Hi, I'm in Pennsylvania.
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Oh, I'm sorry. I got Connecticut on the screen. Sorry, we got some lines messed up.
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My phone is from Connecticut.
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Oh, I got you. Well, welcome, Pat, from PA. How are you?
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Nothing shocks me. I feel that when a new administration, when they win on November 5th, the old administration that's there should not be able to make any decisions that will affect... The United States for way after they're gone.
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Oh, Pat, you know what it's like?
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They're allowed to do that.
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Yeah, you know what it's like? It's almost like when somebody gets fired from a job, and let's face it, the Democrats got fired, they got shown the door, they got trounced, they got walloped, and they're still griping about it. It's like somebody taking a sledgehammer to the office, and on their last day on the job, before they get escorted out the door, They break everything in the office. That's what Biden's trying to do. He's trying to break everything in the office on the way out. Selling off unused border wall? Are you kidding me? And they are. They are having a tantrum. Check out Don Lemon. He was the fired CNN host who now, I guess, is all over social media and Instagram or whatever. Here's his temper tantrum. Cut number seven. Here's Don Lemon upset about Time magazine selecting Donald Trump to be person of the year. This is classic.
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If they wanted to make someone person of the year, I don't know, they could have done it to, with any person, people, they could have done it to someone who actually stood for democracy, who stands for democracy in the country. Let me ask you, Time Magazine, what do you say to the women who, I guess, still read Time Magazine? Or the women who are, don't they do like a whole Time 100 thing or something, which, you know, What about the women who are on that list? What about that? I'm sure some of them will have had dealt with issues that women have to deal with, like discrimination in the workplace, SA, all kinds of things. You have someone on the cover of your magazine who is an adjudicated assaulter. You have someone who inspired an insurrection. You have someone who, without a doubt, the evidence is there, tried to overturn A free and fair election. You had someone who had multiple criminal counts and found guilty on multiple criminal counts. And you named them person of the year? Is this a joke? Did we get something wrong? Did someone scam us?
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I have to admit, I enjoyed that way too much. I enjoy their tears way too much. I enjoy their whining. I enjoyed Gwen yesterday, the caller, who's just like Don Lemon. They're throwing a temper tantrum, and they just don't know what hit them. You know what hit them? The will of the American people. 800-655-MIKE. What happens when the power's out, your phone says no service, and the grid is down? Do you have a backup plan? If you don't have a satellite phone from sat123.com, you're risking way more than just missed calls. A satellite phone from sat123.com keeps you connected no matter what. You could be miles from civilization or in the middle of a natural disaster. This phone works when everything else fails. It's your lifeline when the world goes dark. And let's be real. These days, anything can happen. But with Sat123.com, you're prepared. Sat123.com is committed to American values. They believe in reliability and quality that you can trust when it matters the most. Don't wait until it's too late. Head over to Sat123.com. Use the promo code Gallagher for $25 off. Gallagher, G-A-L-L-A-G-H-E-R, sat123.com, promo code Gallagher for $25 off. Protect yourself, protect your family, and stay connected with sat123.com. I continue to be just astounded that you have contributed enough to sponsor over 5,400 children in our prison fellowship campaign. We're over our goal, and let's keep it going. Let's see. Now the fun will be how far over we can go. Right now we're at 5,456 kids who are going to be blessed with a Bible, a Christmas present, and a personalized message from their incarcerated parent. It's a ministry that ministers to the families of those who are in prison. It changes these kids' lives. Thank you for helping us hit our goal. And, hey, let's not stop now. I mean, it's Friday, December the 13th. There's still time to bless more children. And it's just astounding, astounding to see your generosity come through again. I wasn't sure we'd hit it. We're at 5,456 kids. You did it. We've raised over $162,000 in two weeks for the Angel Tree Prison Fellowship Campaign. So you have blessed us once again. You've made us feel so, so happy. Not everybody's happy. I shared with you Don Lemon a few minutes ago and his whining. How about Joy Reid over at MSNBC? I told you when Time Magazine decided to make Donald Trump person of the year, they would melt down. Well, she never disappoints. You can always count on MSNBC's Joy Reid for a little comic relief.
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Better or for worse is not much of a ringing endorsement, and we all know which one Trump falls under. And let's remember who else has been given this title in years past in the same category. Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Ayatollah Khomeini, and Vladimir Putin. In fact, Stalin won the distinction twice, just like Trump. Regardless of the company he keeps, we know how important these magazine covers are to Trump. Just look at this tour he gave the Washington Post in 2015 of his Trump Tower office with a wall adorned with his various cover appearances.
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Oh, man. Again, I'm enjoying this too much. It's like the goofy caller yesterday, Gwen, who claimed that she pushed the wrong button. She was listening to trying to find a country music station and found the Mike Gallagher show. And nobody believed that. She listens every day. She called. She was on hold. And she, you know, is a big Kamala Harris supporter. And by the way, I guarantee you, we kind of made – where was she from? Was she Iowa? I think she was Gwen from Iowa. And it just gives me – joy to see how miserable. And I shouldn't be that way. I know I shouldn't be that way. But they've done so much damage to this country. There's a essay that's real lengthy, and I can't read the whole thing. Tracy, let's post it at mikeonline.com from the free press. Neil Ferguson, the vibe shift goes global. Here at home, here in America, he writes, Yale Law School and DEI committees are out. Abroad, strength and escalation are in. The American electorate decisively re-elected Donald Trump. Canada felt the vibe shift when Trump threatened to impose a 25% tariff on both Canada and Mexico on his first day in power unless fentanyl and illegal migrants stopped crossing into the United States from their territories. Four days later, Justin Trudeau was having dinner at Mar-a-Lago. The Canadian Prime Minister soon realized he'd bought a ticket to be trolled when Trump suggested that Canada become the 51st state. The vibe shift had effects in Europe, too. Within days of Trump's election, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen proposed that Europe should buy more liquefied natural gas from America in order to ward off new tariffs on European exports to the United States. All over the world, Neil Ferguson writes, from Romania to South Korea, the vibe shift reverberates. And then, of course, The best example of the global vibe shift by far is the Middle East. Biden wants you to believe it's his doing. But who deserves credit here, asks Neil Ferguson. Surely not Biden. If anyone has weakened Iran and Hezbollah, it's Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The reality is that we're witnessing the complete and total unraveling of the disastrous foreign policy that began under Obama and was picked up again by Joe Biden, the perverse effect of which was to strengthen both Iran and Russia. The series of blunders that consigned Syria to a hideous and protracted civil war and opened the door to Russia in both Syria and Ukraine began in July of 2012 and August of 2013 when the White House said that if Assad used chemical weapons, he would be deemed to have crossed a red line. Remember that? They use chemical weapons anyway. and the White House's threat was empty. Obama called off the planned retaliatory airstrikes. Worse, Obama then allowed the Russian government to broker a deal in which Assad handed over some of his chemical weapons. Look, there is a sea change. This is a great piece. It's lengthy. It goes on and on about the change, the vibe change. We've got it posted for you at mikeonline.com. You want to read it. It's very important. This is Neil Ferguson, who's a columnist for the Free Press. 800-655-MIKE. Incidentally, I... When we hit the goal earlier, I played sit down, you're rocking the boat. I'm not going to play it anymore because people get agitated. But I had fun on the cruise last week, even under the very difficult circumstances of covering for the great Dennis Prager, who's recovering in a Los Angeles hospital from a very serious fall. There is just nothing like a vacation on a cruise ship. And I'm trying to make sure I give you a heads up because I think the second Patriots Alaska cruise featuring yours truly, along with the great Larry Elder, Joe Piscopo from New York, Jen Horn from Los Angeles, we're going to sail the inside passage of Alaska. We're going to depart from Seattle August 16th through the 23rd of next year. We've already got around 100 people signed up, and I don't want you to miss out on this. This isn't just any cruise. It's a Patriots Alaska cruise. We'll have events on the ship. And I want to remind you, you've got to book through us in order to have access to all of our onboard activities. But we're going to see beautiful wildlife and bald eagles and fjords and glaciers on a beautiful cruise ship with a... spa and a casino, the beautiful Euro Dam from Holland, America. For details, don't put this off. The deposit's only 300 bucks. You can lock in your stateroom now for the Patriots Alaska cruise. Travelwithsalem.com. Travelwithsalem.com. Go to travelwithsalem.com. Coming up, Amazon gives a million dollars to Trump's inaugural fund in what people are saying is a reset, a start over, a do over. Stick around. More of the Mike Gallagher Show from South Carolina on a busy Friday coming up.
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So you, Joe Biden, and your sob story about your rich, spoiled presidential kid, Hunter Biden, and how he's been singled out because I know I speak for millions of people who have an addict in their family who did something they're not proud of, who could never get out from under it. We have no sympathy for you, Hunter Biden, and even less for you, Joe Biden, because you enabled all of it.
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In the relieffactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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All right, there's some breaking news out of an overseas trip that former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was involved in.
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Breaking now on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Nancy Pelosi apparently suffered an injury and has been admitted to a hospital in Luxembourg. Fox News has confirmed that the 84-year-old California representative was traveling to Luxembourg for the Battle of the Bulge remembrances. The extent of Pelosi's injury is unknown at the time of the reporting. It's a developing story. But again, Nancy Pelosi apparently has been hospitalized in Luxembourg after having suffered an injury. You know, I'm interested in my own emotional reaction to this news. I find her so appalling and so destructive, I'll never forget her ripping up Trump's State of the Union speech. It was one of the most disgraceful acts I have ever seen. There are few Democrats with whom I agree with. You want to know what my first personal, instinctive reaction was in hearing this news? Oh no, I hope she'll be okay. I hope she's going to be okay. I don't want anything bad to happen to my political opponents. When people are celebrating the assassination of a CEO or hoping that Trump gets killed and cheering on the would-be assassins in Butler, Pennsylvania or on Trump's golf course, there is such a, like this columnist wrote, a dehumanization. There's a lack of soul there. There's a darkness. And the very first thing I thought of when I saw this news is I hope she's going to be okay. I hate that for her. I don't want anything bad to happen to some 84-year-old Democrat named Nancy Pelosi. It's the last thing any of us should think. We don't think that way. We shouldn't think that way. We should be thinking about health. And I want Joe Biden to live to be 100. And I am so angry right now at his scheme to sell off pieces of the border wall at $5 a pop just to sabotage Donald Trump, just to sabotage the securing of the border. It makes me sick to my stomach. But I don't want anything bad to happen to them personally. And if you think that way, if you think a health insurance CEO's death is sort of understandable or justifiable or, you know, the chickens are coming home to roost or, you know, like Elizabeth Warren said, people taking matters into their own hands because you can only push people too far, you've got something seriously wrong with you. There is a blackness, a darkness in your soul. There is a deep, deep misery you must suffer from. Mitch McConnell, people laughing about him falling down. Who wants anything to happen to somebody who gets hurt, regardless of their political affiliation? And McConnell fell the other day, and he's recovering from a fall. He had a big Band-Aid on his head and bruises all over the place. Nobody wants anything like that to happen to anybody. You shouldn't think that way. And again, I am just still so grateful for the extraordinary effort that you've put forth in supporting our Christmastime Prison Fellowship campaign. We're at 5,500 kids. Wow. 5,500 children are going to get a Bible and a Christmas present and a personalized note from their parents. incarcerated parent. Thank you so very much for supporting our efforts. And you did it again. You just did it again. Here's Kim in Atlanta, Georgia, reacting to Elizabeth Warren's disgraceful remark. Well, you know, Brian Thompson's, we don't condone murder. And she's saying that because she thinks she has to say that. But when you say, well, people take matters into their own hands when they've been, you That's like the guy yesterday, the guy from Long Island. Well, you know, what can people do? Kim in Atlanta, Merry Christmas. How are you?
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Merry Christmas, Mike. I'm great. How are you?
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I'm doing great. Glad you could join us. What do you think?
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Well, when she says you can only push people so far before they do something, this is jerk that shot Brian Thompson. He's a rich kid. He's a spoiled rich kid. He wasn't pushed too far. He could afford any insurance premium. So she's just twisting it to fit. She's twisting it to fit her narrative like they always do. That's what they do every time. They try to make... Yeah, yeah. She's such a liar. So anyway, it just really got me going this morning.
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Well, me too. I hear you. Thanks, Kim. Todd in Anderson, South Carolina, not too far from where I am. Todd, why did you guys make it so cold for me to come here today? Good Lord, it's chilly here.
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I tell you what, it's crazy weather we're having right now. Yeah, but it feels like Christmas, so that's a good thing, right? You got that right, man. Last week it felt like Halloween with just the wet and cold. maybe a little bit of snow christmas day would be nice that would be incredible that would be incredible so what's up what do you make about uh you want to react to the news of nancy pelosi being injured and hospitalized in luxembourg well this this does go into the nancy pelosi i called in about the ceo but it all comes together just like how you just put it together is if you celebrate An innocent man, and whether you like it or whatever the man's job was, he's still an innocent man. He was shot in the back. The kid didn't approach him to the front. He approached him to the back because he was a coward. If you celebrate that man getting shot, in my book, you're no better than people that celebrate law enforcement officers getting shot or even up to the point of celebrating the 9-11 attack.
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And there are people that celebrate when cops get shot. There are people who celebrate. They hate law enforcement. And if you hate police because of the job they do, I guess it stands to reason, well, if they get killed, you're so twisted, you think that's a good thing. And you're right. It's the same kind of person. I love that essay from what that guy wrote on social media. If you're part of a system that they don't agree with, they'll justify violence committed against you. And that's awful. Appreciate it very much, Todd. Thank you. One open line, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Time for one more quick, Michael in Dallas. Michael, happy, Merry Christmas. How are you?
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I am doing great. Merry Christmas to you. And I'd love to say a special prayer for my rabbi, Dennis Prager. I hope he's doing better.
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Um, amen. Thank you. And we're, we're watching carefully and we got some good news. His breathing a little bit has improved a little bit and he's, he's got a long haul, but, uh, you know, suffered, uh, a terrible fall and a, and a serious spinal injury, spinal cord injury. And, uh, so thank you. We're all praying for, for Dennis and thanks for that reminder, Michael, very important.
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And, and thank you. And I love what you do. Uh, My only, I guess, issue with what you're talking about is the CEO that was shot. Nobody knows if he was a good or bad person. That's awful. It's really awful. Nancy Pelosi.
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Did you hear the limo driver we had on yesterday who knew him and said he was a great guy? Warm, generous, giving?
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I did, and that's great, but Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden are evil, corrupt people.
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