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It's the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.

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An early childhood taxing district? What on earth is that?

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The latest in politics and world affairs.

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I don't think that we should be passing legislation that is so complicated that people kind of throw up their hands and say, I can't understand that.

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Today's current opinions and ideas.

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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.

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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.

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indeed let's have a conversation and welcome to the kim munson show thank you so much for joining us you are each treasured you're valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that's producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa all the people here at crawford broadcasting it is friday producer joe

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Thank goodness it's Friday. It's been a long week.

SPEAKER 03 : 1:12

We have been working like crazy. We have, after today, we will have recorded seven additional hours, which will be both AVS, America's Veterans Stories, and the shows for Christmas week. We still have some to do next week, but we have, it's been a lot of work, but oh my gosh, the interviews are so awesome, aren't they?

SPEAKER 04 : 1:34

The stories, the stories have been incredible and just awestrucking.

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Okay. And let's see, this Sunday for America's Veterans Stories is the part one of Carl Leppard, isn't it? I think it is. And Vietnam veteran, and he was in three battles that people don't really know much about. You will not want to miss it. It is this Sunday, 3 to 4 p.m., and then we recorded part two, which I think we'll probably play that in January. Joe, you and I have to work on that scheduling because we've got a lot of great stuff here. And then, let's see, next... I'm getting mixed up on my days. You know what? I'll have to check that. Let me check that, and we'll get back with everybody on that because I may have myself... Telling you the wrong thing. So we'll make sure that we get that. I'll confirm that in the break. In studio with me is my friend Kane. Yes, ma'am. And you are a founder of Task Force Freedom in northern Colorado, caring about our children. I so appreciate you.

SPEAKER 12 : 2:37

Yes, ma'am. So it's I would encourage people to go to our website, Task Force Freedom, no code dot com. And I have one ask. OK, just simply go click on school districts, then click on the list of books and go in and take a look at the books. Go in and take it. In fact, they're rated. We use the company called Book Looks dot org. They rate these books from one to five. Look at the fours and the fives. The ones are horrible. The fours and fives are 100% triple X material. And so, this is what I would encourage you to do. Go and take a look, read the excerpts. You can see, once you get the list, you'll see the book covers. Click on the book cover. It'll give you another button you can push and you can see excerpts from the book. You can read those. It'll have pictures, illustrations. And then you tell me if that's appropriate for little kids. And then I would encourage you to share. your grandkids, your kids, tell the world this is what's going on. They can take a look and see it for themselves. It is a violation of federal law to give pornographic material to children.

SPEAKER 03 : 3:56

So, Kane, and we'll get into this, but there are those that are accusing you or those that are trying to prevent this pornographic material being offered to our children as book banners. What would you say to that?

SPEAKER 12 : 4:11

We have never, ever asked the school districts, the school boards, to ban the books. We've simply said a parent should have the right to decide whether their children can view, read, or look at any pornographic materials. We just say set it aside and require parental approval. It's a parental rights issue. Why these people will not do that, that's very simple. There are school districts around our country that have said, We're gonna isolate the books so that parents can decide if they want their kids to look at pornographic materials. Why the school districts in Colorado refuse to do it, I don't know, you have to ask them. I simply say though, we're gonna hold these people accountable for what they've done to our children. They think that they're gonna skirt the responsibility, they're gonna skirt the laws and not be held accountable for what they've done to these children. There is no statute of limitation on child sexual abuse. So Mr. and Mrs. school board member, librarians, teachers that are providing these materials to children, When you're 90 years old and you're sitting in your diaper in a wheelchair, someone can knock on your door and go, we're going to hold you accountable for what you did to these kids, criminally and civilly. And you're not giving up. Never, ever will I stop protecting these kids. These people, in fact, you go to our website, we have pictures of the school board members. We have their names. And at the very top, it says, never forget what they've done to your children. You can look at their pictures. They're normal looking folks. In fact, I'm sure they're church going and they're happy-go-lucky parents, friends, relatives. It's pure evil what they're allowing to happen to our children.

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Okay, well, we'll talk more about that and what we can do about it. Kane, it's great to have you here, and we've got some other things to chat about, and I did check that. Yes, this Sunday will be part one of Carl Leppard's interview. You will not want to miss it, and that is 3 to 4 p.m. on Sunday on all KLC 560 platforms. It will rebroadcast the next Sunday, 10 to 11 p.m., and then the Saturday after that, 10 to 11 p.m. as well. Let's see here. Check out the website. That's kimmunson.com and sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at all of our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com and our text line is 720-605-0647. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice. And what that means is I buy my airtime, which means I'm an entrepreneur. And all these sponsors and all of your support is what keeps us on the air. But being an independent voice, that means that I have full control of subject selection, our guests. And that doesn't happen very often these days in media. So that's a pretty good deal. And you can hear us on all KLZ 560 platforms. We're on 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. The second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And those platforms are KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 560, or excuse me, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And we look at these issues, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And under a kind of compassion, so like Mike Johnston, I'll give you an example. Mayor Mike Johnston wanted to be compassionate to all of these people that have come here illegally illegally. and be compassionate because public policy is making housing more and more expensive so to be compassionate he proposed to tax you more in saying that he wants to help these people but you can never give something to one person that you've not taken from somebody else so it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff whether or not it's their rights their property freedom livelihoods opportunities or lives And force can be a weapon, but it can be policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum, the globalist elites, the United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, Colorado governor. We're going to have to talk about that in just a minute. World Health Organization, land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, and the list goes on and on and on. And we are going to have to reduce that list, Producer Joe. That's what you and I are working on every week. Every day, right?

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Yes, ma'am. It's a critical moment in history, and we've got to work to make it great.

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And I so appreciate, out of the voice of a 26-year-old, does that not give you a lot of hope?

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I've talked to him before the show. He's a smart young man.

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I know he is. I know he is. And remember, my friends, if something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, not the personalities. We're trying to stay out of all the eighth-grade girl things. political fighting that happens. And we want to just bring the truth to you.

SPEAKER 12 : 9:32

And so I'll try to keep the name calling that base.

SPEAKER 03 : 9:37

That's right. We do try to limit that as much as possible. Now, since it is Friday, that means that we will be sharing a quote from the Medal of Honor quote book. And the citations start out with the word conspicuous in it. So I thought, well, let's have conspicuous be our word of the day. It's spelled C-O-N-S-P-I-C-U-O-U-S, conspicuous. And it could be easy to notice or obvious. and uh... noticeable attracting attention unusual remarkable and uh... so the quote of the day comes to us and it's a variation we've heard this quote several different times from great people but this is from charles c Hagemeister, United States Army Medal of Honor recipient born 1946, died 2021 for actions on March 20, 1967. And this is his citation. It says, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in the action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. While conducting combat operations against a hostile force, Hagemeister's platoon suddenly came under heavy attack from three sides by an enemy force occupying well-concealed fortified positions and supported by machine guns and mortars. Seeing two of his comrades seriously wounded in the initial action, Hagemeister unhesitatingly, he didn't stop him, with total disregard for his safety, raced through the deadly hail of enemy fire to provide them medical aid. Upon learning that the platoon leader and several other soldiers had been wounded, Hagemeister continued to brave the withering enemy fire and crawled forward to render life-saving treatment and to offer words of encouragement. Attempting to evacuate the seriously wounded soldiers, he was taken under fire at close range by an enemy sniper. Realizing that the lives of his fellow soldiers depended on his actions, he seized a rifle from a fallen comrade, killed the sniper, three other enemy soldiers who were attempting to encircle his position, and silenced an enemy machine gun that covered the area with deadly fire. Unable to remove the wounded to a less exposed location and aware of the enemy efforts to isolate his unit, he dashed through the fuselage of fire to secure help from a nearby platoon. Returning with help, he placed men in positions to cover his advance as he moved to evacuate the wounded forward of his location. These efforts successfully completed, he then moved to the other flank and evacuated additional wounded men despite the fact that his every move drew fire from the enemy. His repeated heroic and selfless actions at the risk of his life saved the lives of many of his comrades and inspired their actions in repelling the enemy assault. Hagemeister's indomitable courage was in the highest traditions of the armed forces and reflect great credit upon himself. And this is his quote. He said, integrity is when you do the right thing when no one is watching. Oh, yeah.

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There you go.

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You like that one?

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Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.

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And I'm actually, Cain, I'm emotional about this, very emotional about it. So I'll mention the Center for American Values located in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. But as we've been doing these interviews and also been promoting Doyle Glass's book, Swift Sword, we recorded yesterday Dennis Bush, and he has written a book, The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach. And I got the book and I started it last night. But he talked about a young guy, Jimmy Monteef, I think it was. And he was on Omaha Beach and he received the Medal of Honor, but he posthumously because he was killed in those actions. And so we're in this battle of ideas now, Cain. Yeah. I believe we're in our third founding.

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Yes, ma'am.

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And ideas are very important. In fact, it's been attributed to Stalin that ideas are more powerful than guns. We wouldn't let our enemies have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?

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The ideas and then information matters. It's important that we understand what the media is doing to us, what the politicians, what Hollywood is doing. They've hijacked the truth. And so I love these stories that you tell because it reminds me that, dude, have courage. And I hope people that are listening, they can hear these stories and go, I'm going to stand in the gap with the patriots to protect our children, to protect our country, to protect our future. If we as men and women, if we don't stand in that gap, have courage. It's okay to be afraid. I used to be a police officer. There were many, many days I was terrified. But you still go forward because you're held to a certain standard where you're going to protect the innocent. And so I would just call upon us to stand in the gap. Listen to these stories. These men, they're facing physical, 100% physical harm and death, and they go forward anyway. Now, I do believe with today's environment, with the latest current events, We're facing physical harm and physical damage from the left, from these folks that I call them the Black KKK, the BLM, inciting violence against white people. And so we need to prepare for those things. And at the same time, I've said this since I started Task Force Freedom, speak the truth, period.

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It's Friday.

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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. It is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity. by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And I mentioned the Center for American Values, located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. And their portraits of valor, over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients, with their quotes is so inspiring. I would highly recommend that over the Christmas break that you take the fam down to Pueblo, Visit the center, and they've got great restaurants on the Riverwalk. It'll just be a great day. That website, for more information, is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. And thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. That industry cane is under attack. from a bureaucratic standpoint, administratively, legislative, really under attack. But what really is under attack is what I just said, the things that fuel our hopes and dreams, empowers our lives.

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The American people are under attack from every angle possible. If they're dog catchers, I'm sure that is being manipulated to attack the American people. I didn't know it was such an issue. I've listened to you and Trent. I've talked with Trent Luce a couple times. And I was shocked. I never knew that that was going on in the farming industry, how the government is absolutely controlling everything. So they take my tax dollars. And they turn around, they use that money to fight against us with the policies, with the rules. There are certain laws that they set up that go against the American, against my freedoms, my constitutional rights. We are being under attack by our own government. And the power we have is our voices. Speak the truth. Talk to your neighbors. Tell your neighbors we can replace. Our founding fathers gave us the ability to replace these people by voting. They did that so that we never have another war where we try to kill one another. It's unfortunate because I think we're pretty close to losing that voting, the integrity of voting. I think we're going to get it back. If we don't get it back, get it back, what's left? And so what we need to do is we need to start right now by talking to our neighbors, talking to our friends, talking to the left, to our Democrat. It's coming from a guy that fights them every day. Most of them are misguided. They're misunderstood because they are lied to. I call the media, here comes a name, the teleprompter reading harlots.

SPEAKER 03 : 21:36

Oh, my gosh.

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Okay.

SPEAKER 12 : 21:40

Sorry, I speak the truth. And so what's worse, me calling them teleprompter reading harlots or them hiding the truth or lying where people get hurt?

SPEAKER 03 : 21:51

Well, I think what you're saying is right, is that those that only watch this mainstream media, which truly is mistruths, I guess I'll call it. It's a lie.

SPEAKER 12 : 22:08

I can call they misrepresent the truth. They're disingenuous. You can do all those fancy words. They are liars. Okay.

SPEAKER 03 : 22:16

So with that, but if people only watch that, I... talk to friends of mine that say they have family members That just won't listen to anything else. And so I moderated some debates this last election season. And what I noticed was the Democrat, the radical activist Democrat, would always make sure that they parroted what was being said on mainstream media, even though this might be a statehouse debate for a statehouse or local government. And so it's very...

SPEAKER 12 : 22:53

It's a coordinated effort.

SPEAKER 03 : 22:55

It is a coordinated effort. And those that, as you say, are well-meaning, but they're just, they're not, they have no intellectual curiosity.

SPEAKER 12 : 23:08

My mom is a Democrat, and we have some conversation. She listens to CNN. She watches those people.

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The View?

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The View. I started to call them a name. Okay. She watches, and so she's, it's like Stockholm syndrome. And it's hard to reach them. I explained the history of the Democrat Party to my mom a few months ago. She had no idea. My mom's a smart lady. It didn't change her mind. There's no reason why anyone should be involved and support the Democrat Party. If you look at what they did to Negroes, American Negroes, there's no reason at all where you should ever support that party. They destroyed us. They killed us. The KKK, they hanged us from trees, Kim. They cut off our genitals and they set us on fire.

SPEAKER 03 : 24:06

Isn't that happening now to our children?

SPEAKER 12 : 24:08

Yes, ma'am. I've said this often, in fact, for the last three years. Everything that has happened to the American Negro from the Emancipation Proclamation to today is what they're doing to the American culture, what they consider the white culture. Every single thing that has happened to the American Negro, that is what they're doing to the white culture. They have to destroy this American culture, meaning Primarily, they have to destroy the white male.

SPEAKER 03 : 24:42

So speaking of that, as with the America's Veterans stories and as you and I were talking during break, many of these Medal of Honor recipients, 18, 19, 20, 21. So this is our fighting age men. So think about what China's doing with the fentanyl. Getting our kids addicted to drugs, our young men, and destroying them. And I have several families in my life who I care deeply about who have lost a son, a talented, great son, to drug overdoses.

SPEAKER 12 : 25:21

So I have a good friend of mine, another radio host, Stephan Tubbs. Okay. And he produced a documentary called Devastated. I would encourage you to check it out. It's probably about an hour and ten minutes. Okay. And it's on YouTube. It's called Devastated, and he covers the fentanyl problem here in Colorado. Okay. It is mind-boggling that our own government, that our government officials are not saying a word about this. Thousands and thousands of young people die every day. They're not trying to die. They're just trying to get high. And they're being destroyed. There's a family that they highlighted in this documentary, both brothers. They died overnight. And so I would encourage you, it's called Devastated by Stephen Tubbs. Okay. I don't know if I can do that. Talk about another radio host on your show.

SPEAKER 03 : 26:11

Sure, that's fine. Okay. I'm an independent. Yes, ma'am. That can happen. So from a military strategic standpoint. Ultimately, you try to destroy, you try to eliminate the other side's soldiers.

SPEAKER 12 : 26:27

Of course. So look what LBJ did back in the 60s. He implemented the social welfare program and went out and told women... Not all black women, but told women, I'm going to give you money for every child you have, but Bubba, your husband, he can't be here. And look at this community now. Prior to the 1960s, 80% of black families had a mom and dad. They had a lot of kids, but they had a mom and dad. Today, it may be 20%. And that's directly involving LBJ. Now, the men failed because they didn't have to take that money. They could have told their wife, I don't care. I'm not leaving my family. So they failed.

SPEAKER 03 : 27:13

But the other thing, though, that happened also then, it became more like a... How am I going to say this on the air here? So men then like, wow, well, I can have sex and I don't have to be responsible for the results of that. And I can have sex with different baby mamas and the government will take care of that's exactly what happened.

SPEAKER 12 : 27:41

And we cannot, we can look at the government, we can look at what the situation they set up for men, but it still comes down to personal responsibility. Good sir, you didn't have to take that money. Good sir, you didn't have to go out and sleep with four, five, six, seven baby mamas. It's still personal responsibility.

SPEAKER 03 : 28:04

But we're not teaching that in our schools.

SPEAKER 12 : 28:06

No.

SPEAKER 03 : 28:06

And we used to. And with The Greatest Generation, they came out of many of these little two-room school houses. But they came out with these educations of understanding so many different things. I would recommend all of you do a web search for the Saline County, Kansas, 8th grade exam in 1895. Okay. And it explains a lot on why they were the greatest generation.

SPEAKER 12 : 28:36

But we also have to understand, all of these things that are happening is because that's what they want. They, as in the government, the deep state, the politicians, they don't want an informed society. They don't want people to be intelligent. So that's why we do this show. They dumb down everything.

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SPEAKER 03 : 31:01

It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. Hooters Restaurants has been a sponsor of the show since before COVID. It was the Kim Munson Show. And Kane is in studio with me. Kane, I will be starting my seventh year of solo broadcasting January 1.

SPEAKER 12 : 31:33

That's pretty awesome because that's about the time I moved to Colorado. And I would drive down from Wellington to Commerce City. And I started listening to your show because you played the national anthem.

SPEAKER 03 : 31:45

Well, that's something that Crawford Broadcasting does. And it's a God and country station.

SPEAKER 12 : 31:50

And I have to remind the public. This is a true American woman. She stands, faces the flag and puts her right hand over her heart. So you think about that every morning when you hear that song, you know that this amazing lady is standing at attention and facing that flag.

SPEAKER 03 : 32:10

Thank you, Kane. Yeah. Okay. So Hooters restaurants, five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great place to get together with friends to watch the games. Great lunch specials Monday through Friday and happy hour. And Kane, we've talked about it this week. Colonel Rutledge. Have you met Colonel Rutledge in person yet? I have not. I would love to meet him. We're going to make that happen. Yeah, I would love to. And he's 96 years young. And talk about intellectual curiosity. He's traveled the world. And he just is a sponge. And he's sharing that with us now, which is so awesome. And we done an interview last year, a couple years ago, regarding John Heisman. He said, Kim, a lot of people don't know who John Heisman is. So we ran that interview the other day. And this young Travis Hunter from University of Colorado who plays both offense and defense is the favorite to win. So he's in New York. That announcement will be tomorrow evening. He's one of three finalists. So that's pretty exciting.

SPEAKER 12 : 33:14

I think he's got a really good shot. I think so. He's a great kid. I was listening to Coach Deion Sanders talk about him because he's not only just a great athlete. This guy's got a 4.0 grade point average. No.

SPEAKER 03 : 33:27

What an inspiration.

SPEAKER 1 : 33:29

100%.

SPEAKER 12 : 33:29

Oh, gosh. Just a really neat kid. Okay. And those should be our examples.

SPEAKER 03 : 33:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER 12 : 33:36

Like we should lift those folks up so that the young people can see you too can make it. Maybe not in sports, but what people don't understand about athletes is they spend their entire life honing their skills. And that's if you want to be an engineer, spend your entire life honing that skill. If you want to work in oil and gas, as I do, spend your life honing that skill, and it'll pay off for you.

SPEAKER 03 : 34:00

Yeah, practice.

SPEAKER 12 : 34:01

Yes.

SPEAKER 03 : 34:01

And so I wish him a lot of great luck on that. I think he'll do well. I hope so. A couple of things else to mention is we did send out our email yesterday. Pam Long brought this to our attention, that down here at Fort Carson— In fact, we have the picture. It's a piece of toast and some lima beans. Our soldiers are not being fed properly at Fort Carson, and the quality of the food is questionable. And yet here we've got an administration that is sending billions of dollars to Ukraine. Biden just promised a billion dollars to Africa, and we can't make sure that our soldiers are fed properly. So we sent a standalone email yesterday. We normally only send one email each week on Sundays. But Zach and I decided to send a standalone so that you had all that information to call these people, our representatives, and the people down at Fort Carson to say, fix this.

SPEAKER 12 : 35:00

Yes.

SPEAKER 03 : 35:01

And many of you have responded back and said, you got on it and you did it immediately. I love you all. Thank you for doing that.

SPEAKER 12 : 35:07

And if you have politicians, so-called leaders, not willing to stand and protect we the people, get rid of them. I think our memories are short. We forget how horrible some of these people are. And when it comes time to vote, we vote for them again. Never forget, never ever forget what these people continue to do to we the people.

SPEAKER 03 : 35:31

Well, and that's why our election project is so important. Thank you to all of you. We have two lawsuits that are out there regarding our elections here in Colorado. And so that's in this legal back and forth now. And so thank you. One of them is through the United Sovereign Americans team, Marlee Hornick. Give a shout out to Mike Cahoon. I tell you, he's the Colorado director. Amazing guy. And so that lawsuit is out there because Colorado is not even meeting the minimum standards set forth by Congress for our elections. It's a civil rights issue. And so that lawsuit is there. Then the lawsuit through Peter Berneger with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice, we've gone through and looked at voter rolls, and the voter rolls are not clean. And that's what that lawsuit is about. So, Kane, I think, though, the Colorado 2024 election project will be morphing into Reclaim Colorado 2025. We're going to, I think— file another lawsuit because of this BIOS password security breach and fraudulent ballots that got through in Mesa County. So stay tuned. So that means we'll be raising money for that.

SPEAKER 12 : 36:47

I'm very optimistic about our future. Yeah. I'm very optimistic about the voting issues being corrected. When it is corrected, we will take over our country, 100%. We will. But there's suffering and sacrifice getting to that stage. And I will say it again, never forget what they've done. It's always been, it seems like it's always been just individuals that step up and go, we have to make our politicians do their job. You would think our politicians would be screaming every day down at the Dome of Dummies. They should be screaming every day. I'm sorry. They should be screaming every day. They should be on the news every day talking about how our elections, they're fraud. They're flawed. But they don't. It's people like you. It's just regular folks that say, you're going to enforce the rules. You're going to enforce the law. And what we're going to do, because you're not standing up and leading, we're going to get rid of you.

SPEAKER 03 : 37:45

And when you say that, you mean at the ballot box. We want to clarify that.

SPEAKER 12 : 37:48

Yes, at the ballot box.

SPEAKER 03 : 37:49

Clarify that. Thank you very much. The other thing is, Colorado, I feel, is at the, I don't feel, I know, is the petri dish for all of this questionable stuff. Tip of the spear. That happens on our elections. And so there are things that are legal, but they're not right. And so we are going to work to present legislation to fix that.

SPEAKER 12 : 38:12

Now, this kind of like Jim Crow laws. They were legal.

SPEAKER 03 : 38:16

They weren't right. They weren't right. A lot of people don't realize that 15 year olds can pre register to vote in Colorado. It used to be 16 year olds. And this last legislative session. And here I'll give the plug to cut. Colorado Union of Taxpayers. This is my fellow volunteers. And when you see these folks, say thank you to Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honiger, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, and Mary Jansen. And these folks review legislation that is scheduled for hearing each week down at the statehouse, takes a position, and we focus on things regarding your pocketbook and property rights. So with this, we have this – we pay for this technology. It's called Bill Track 50. and it will populate all of the bills that are scheduled for hearing for that week. My job as president is to go through all those bills and then determine which ones that I'll present to the board for their review. Then they work all weekend, get back with those positions. I look at it, if we have a majority to take a position, then we will include that in an email that goes to all of the legislators, the governor, and if you'd like to be on that list, Join us. It's only $25. Think about the value you get all these hours for $25, and you can be informed.

SPEAKER 12 : 39:50

We have a coordinator on our team that handles that. legislative issues. And so we'll get that person to sign up and follow it because she will organize folks to call in to the Capitol and to go down and protest and that kind of thing.

SPEAKER 03 : 40:05

Well, that'll be very helpful for her. Yes. And the other great tool is Sue Moore and her group with Liberty Scorecard. They do a great job as well. So, Cain, it always goes too quickly here. I had a few. I do this day in history, and I think it's important because we've got to remember all these people before and things that happened. So I'm going to share just a few things. 1577, Francis Drake set sail from England on an epic three-year circumnavigation of the world aboard the Pelican, later renamed the Golden Hind. Then in 1636, the Massachusetts Bay Colony organizes three militia regiments to defend the colony against the Pequoy Indians, recognized today as the founding of the United States National Guard.

SPEAKER 12 : 40:52

Interesting. 1774.

SPEAKER 03 : 40:55

Paul Revere and Wentworth Cheswell arrived to warn Portsmouth of the approach of British warships. The British are coming. This tragic 1916, an avalanche kills 10,000 Austrian and Italian troops in 24 hours in Tyrol. yeah wow i know that's a wow uh okay 1920 the league of nations establishes the international court of justice in the hague so that's during that whole progressive era and now we see that there's a lot of naughty stuff that comes out of the hague these days yep 1920 that's when women were given the right to vote too as well i don't know i know that but yeah Okay. We'll just let that stay out there.

SPEAKER 12 : 41:41

Sorry, that was just floating in my head. I love that you do this, and I hope people see this and listen and see that the courage that was required to do this. I think... We're fighting the British again. I think we're Paul Revere's again. It's not a right now, not a physical war, but we're being attacked. And it's by our own government that turned against us that I think I told you I call these people Marxicoms. Marx is communist. They're Marxicoms. They're no longer Democrats. I look at my mom. She's a sweet lady. She's a loving lady. She's a Democrat. She's not a marxicom, though. She is not. But she doesn't know that it's being run by marxicoms. Right.

SPEAKER 03 : 42:23

She does not know that. To your point, there's a lot of very well-meaning people. And that's why I continue to try to explain that this Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of your grandpa and your grandma. No, it's not. This is something totally different. It's been taken over by radical activists. So several other things. Remember when, well, it used to be that we were going to freeze. The whole earth was going to freeze. This was in the 70s and 80s. And then it was global warming. And now because it's weather, it's climate change. But 1938. Didn't you grow up in Los Angeles?

SPEAKER 12 : 43:00

I did.

SPEAKER 03 : 43:01

It freezes at 28 degrees Fahrenheit. That was Los Angeles. 1944, this is during World War II. Japanese kamikaze crashes into the U.S. cruiser Nashville, kills 138. Now this one, 1964 in El Paso, Texas, LBJ and Mexican President Diaz Ordaz set off an explosion diverting the Rio Grande to reshape the US-Mexico border. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER 12 : 43:31

No.

SPEAKER 03 : 43:32

I wonder if they did an environmental study on that.

SPEAKER 12 : 43:33

I don't think so. I wonder. No, no.

SPEAKER 03 : 43:36

Okay, two others.

SPEAKER 12 : 43:36

But the environmental studies are used to, and I'm sure Trent Luce will tell you this, they're used to control us. That's it.

SPEAKER 03 : 43:42

They are, because industrial solar projects and wind projects, they don't have to go through those. No.

SPEAKER 12 : 43:49

And why aren't we using nuclear power plants? They're the cleanest thing you can ever use. And they're safe.

SPEAKER 03 : 43:55

You might have missed the show. Who was it? I can't remember which guest it was. But Gates is now, Bill Gates is very pro-nuclear. Reason is, is because he needs electricity for all of his AI stuff. And I think... Was it Daniel Turner? Okay, thanks, Joe.

SPEAKER 12 : 44:14

I think I heard that show, and they were talking about using Three Mile Island. Yes. Yeah, activating one, because it's safe. It's safe energy. And it shows you how hypocritical these people are. We have this source of power, and we won't use it. It's the cleanest. In fact, it creates clean water.

SPEAKER 03 : 44:33

So, yeah. Okay, then.

SPEAKER 12 : 44:37

Or uses clean water, should I say.

SPEAKER 03 : 44:39

Then two other things. 1967, San Diego, California, records snow at zero elevation after temperatures plunge 19 degrees in eight hours. Again, that's why you need to watch our A Climate Conversation documentary. You can find that at aclimateconversation.com.

SPEAKER 12 : 44:56

It's Walt Johnson's... So I was raised in the hood in Southern California. Okay. And I don't like the men's words. That's why I'm okay and I feel all right calling them liars. I was talking to my wife last night. I'm like, we just gotta speak the truth. Like even all this transgender stuff, when these people are lying to you, call them liars. When they're trying to make you use terms or believe that the sky is falling, call them liars. You have to point at them. You have to embarrass them. You're a fool. I'm sorry. Is that a bad word? Maybe. But I know when I fought bad guys as a police officer, I didn't say, excuse me, Mr. Sir, would you get on one knee or two knees? Would you lay on your back? I said some horrible things to that person because he was bad. Yeah. And he needed to know that I meant business. These leftists, these marxicoms, they don't know that we mean business because we're so polite and we're so politically correct. I'm not advocating violence. I'm simply saying. As we said in the hood, don't start none, it won't be none.

SPEAKER 03 : 46:06

Okay, I like it. Okay, I'm going to give one more this day in history. We'll go to break, and then we're going to talk about some other important issues. 1983, we see the highest NBA scoring game. Detroit, 186, defeats Denver with 184 points, three overtimes. Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER 12 : 46:28

That's insane. And so I have this, I was telling myself, I'm like, well, I'm gonna have some truth bombs. And I'm like, I can't say truth bombs. They're gonna call me a terrorist or something. I call them chocolate drops. So throughout the rest of the segment, I'm gonna have chocolate drops. I have a chocolate drop for the NBA. 75% of them are black. Where's the outrage? Right. You know, diversity, equity, inclusion. Where's the outrage? Fifty percent of the NFL, they're black. Where's the outrage? You know why there's no outrage? Because they're liars. They're using that to try to tell us that we need to have equality and black people or they're being mistreated and what do you call it? discriminated against, they're lying. They have no, not one of them has stood up to say anything about the NBA having 75% of them are Negroes.

SPEAKER 03 : 47:25

Well, because you want the best. And they're really good at that, you know?

SPEAKER 12 : 47:30

Which should apply to every area of the country. Absolutely. Every single area of the country.

SPEAKER 03 : 47:35

And not teach these kids that they're victims and oppressors. So we're going to go to break. And Lorne Levy is also going to be in studio here in the second hour. And for everything mortgages, he can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.

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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. Do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation website. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. My friends, it is important that we honor and remember those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And so make a contribution sometime between now and the end of the year. Kane, my friend, is in studio. He is the founder of Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado. You're very concerned about the issue of our children. And Gammy, one of our callers, listeners, also is. And she had said that she wanted to make a couple of comments when you were on the show. So, Gammy, you've got about a minute and a half. What's on your radar?

SPEAKER 17 : 50:54

Good morning. Hugs to both of you. All right. This goes in line with everything you guys are saying. And I know people have heard of the American College of Pediatricians. You can Google them. And they did a press release of 17 minutes that is stunning in their complete destruction of transgender medical, chemical procedures, everything, through the conduit of Doctors for Children, okay? That was the group. It's actually Doctors Protecting Children. So you can Google both of those. And they made a statement with hundreds of doctors saying, affirming also that this is nothing but just mutilation of children, sterilization. The word sterilization came. Same drill, you know, about Western civilization being demolished. This is just part and parcel of the methods that are being done. to destroy the women, the young people. This is not a joke. This is for real. And parents are being completely brainwashed in the schools by counselors. In three meetings, they can turn around and put a kid on puberty blockers, which is going to devastate them. But nobody is standing up to the schools and saying, you don't have this right. So all this legislative stuff that you all are talking about, needs to be addressed on a huge national level. And I want to throw in one more caveat. I was on the phone with Rich Guggenheim last night for quite a long time, and he has been made director of legislation for GAG nationally, but they don't have enough funds to send him everywhere he needs to go to speak where people are asking him

SPEAKER 03 : 52:50

you know to come speak about it he helped write the amicus brief 56 right right right right right and he was on earlier this week and you're absolutely correct and gammy i thank you she is so informed on all of these issues and and we're lighting a fire she's right it needs to be national but we're lighting a fire here in colorado and it takes a gammy it

SPEAKER 12 : 53:15

Justice moves slow, and it's supposed to because when the consequences come down, you want it to be correct. And so it will take time. For decades to come, these issues will be addressed with these folks that cause harm to these kids.

SPEAKER 03 : 53:30

And so we're working on that. A couple of other things. I wanted to ask you, Cain, about this whole Daniel Penny case, which he is the Marine veteran that protected people on a subway. And then he was brought up on manslaughter charges.

SPEAKER 12 : 53:44

And so I want to start with this. I've been saying for years that the Caucasian culture, the American culture has been under attack and they've been attacking us. the Caucasian male. They went after this young man trying to defend others on the subway. He was just trying to defend them. He put him, this criminal, in a control hold where he held onto him waiting for the police. Now he may have applied pressure and put him to sleep a little bit, but that's part of that process. But look what they did. They started with Mark McCloskey The attorney in St. Louis that stood out in front of his home when BLM was walking on his property, they had to make an example. Hey, you white people, don't you push back. You take it. Kyle Rittenhouse, they tried to put this kid in prison. This kid in prison for defending himself. They called him a racist. He didn't shoot not one American Negro. Not one. Never threatened one. But they classified him as a racist and a bigot. They're saying to you, Caucasian people, you shut up and you take it. This young man, Danny Penny, was protecting innocent men, women, and children, all races. I know. These morons, these KKK black folks, set out and made a statement that you... that you're under attack, that we are going to incite violence against white people. He said that on, why didn't Barack Obama, why didn't the politicians stand up and go, that's a terrorist threat. You can't make comments like that where you want to harm people now because you didn't like the outcome of a legitimate trial.

SPEAKER 03 : 55:32

It's remarkable when I say that. It means it's unspeakable. I don't know what else to say about it. Kane, we're out of time. There's other things we wanted to talk about. But we'll do it again. Yes.

SPEAKER 12 : 55:44

Maybe I'll have a couple of chocolate drops in the next seven years.

SPEAKER 03 : 55:46

OK, sounds great. So our quote for the end of the show, I wanted to go to quotes about bravery or I guess this one isn't about bravery. But this was one with Albert Einstein that just I thought it was important. And he said this. He said, whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted in important affairs. So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.

SPEAKER 05 : 56:28

Young like a new moon rising Fierce through the rain and lightning Wandering out into this great unknown I don't want no one to cry But tell them if I don't survive I was born here

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SPEAKER 04 : 58:26

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SPEAKER 03 : 58:29

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SPEAKER 12 : 60:07

Yes, ma'am. And I forgot to mention, I am a proud American Negro.

SPEAKER 03 : 60:14

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SPEAKER 20 : 60:29

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SPEAKER 03 : 60:57

Yep. And it's been a tough market to navigate through, but you help people do that, and that's awesome. You and I have been friends for a long time. We're not saying how long, but a while. But you've been a sponsor of The Kim Munson Show since before, and we're going to be starting our seventh year. So I so thank you for your support.

SPEAKER 20 : 61:18

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SPEAKER 03 : 62:01

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SPEAKER 08 : 62:26

Not that I'm aware of.

SPEAKER 03 : 62:26

No, no. And Jim May, Lavaca Meat Company. Cattleman, it is great to have you here as well. And I love Fridays and the cowboy poem. And so hopefully you've got one for us.

SPEAKER 11 : 62:37

You know, I always try to make it fun. I got to meet Kane here this morning and been listening to you for a while. You're right on the money on everything that I believe. So, yeah, I can do a quick cowboy poem. I'm sitting here thinking. I was passing out these books, and I didn't really want to read one. And Karen already heard How to Buy a Bra. I thought I wanted to do something funny. Should we do something funny? Okay. Have you heard How to Buy a Bra? I have not. This pertains to – I live – our ranches are in very remote areas up in – like on the Oregon, Idaho, Nevada line, right up in that corner, it's about two hours, two and a half hours to the nearest civilization in terms of a Walmart and stuff like that. And, you know, you got to drive 30 or 40 miles just to get a cup of coffee. So this, I identified with this poem. It's not mine, but I loved it because when you go to town on one of these ranches, you got to have a little list of, Everybody doesn't run into town every day, two and a half hours. So this is how you buy a bra in Nevada. You know, I ain't too much for shopping, nor for even going into town. And except at cattle shipping time, I'm not that easy to be found. But that day came and I had to go. So I left the kids with Ma. But before I left, she asked me, would you pick me up a bra? Without thinking, I said, sure. How tough could that job be? I bent down and kissed her and said, I'll be back by three. Well, I got done the things I needed to. But I started to regret ever saying I would buy that thing. I was working up a sweat. Ha, ha, ha. I went down to that lady's shop with my hat down below my eyes. I didn't want to take a chance on being recognized. I walked up to that sales clerk, and I did not hem nor haw. I told that lady right straight out, ma'am, I am here to buy a bra. Behind me, someone giggles, and I turned around to see that every woman in that store was laughing and pointing right at me. What kind would you be looking for? Well, that made me scratch my head. I'd only seen one kind before. I thought bras was bras, I said. Well, she gave me a disgusted look and said, Mr., that's where you're wrong. Come back here and I'll show you. So, like a dog, I tagged along. She led me down this alley where bras was on display. I thought my jaw would hit the floor when I seen all that lingerie. They had bras of every kind, like I'd never seen before. I thought I'd go plum crazy before I left that woman's store. They had bras that you could wear for 18 hours. And bras that cross your heart. And bras that lift and separate. And that was just a start. They had bras that made you feel like you weren't wearing one at all. And bras that you could train in when you start out when you're small. Well, I finally made my mind up and I picked out a black and lacy one and I told that gal to pack it up and figured I was done. But then she asked me for the size. But I did not hesitate. I looked her right between the eyes and said, she's a six and seven eighths. Six and seven eighths, she said. Oh, that can't be right. Oh, yes, ma'am. I'm sure it is. I measured them last night.

SPEAKER 10 : 65:40

I thought she'd go into shock. Must have caught her by surprise when I told her that my wife's breast was the same as my hat size.

SPEAKER 11 : 65:48

It's what I used to measure with, and I do believe it's fair, but if I'm wrong, I'm sorry, ma'am. Well, that just drew another stare. By now, a crowd had gathered, and they was all just cracking up, so I gave the gal my hat so she could measure for the cup. And when she had it figured, I gave that gal her pay. I tipped my hat, turned around, and bid them all a good day. My wife had heard the story long before I got home. She talked to 15 other women that called her on the phone, and she was still laughing when I got there, but by then I didn't care. Now, she don't ask, and I don't shop for no more women's underwear.

SPEAKER 12 : 66:24

Oh, my gosh. How did I ever... Is that in the book? It is.

SPEAKER 10 : 66:29

It's in the book. It's not mine. And my wife, she says, now you don't tell them that you didn't write that. I did not write that one. She's pretty well built, but I mean, I don't know about six and seven. So anyway, just for fun, just like to have fun. And Merry Christmas, everybody.

SPEAKER 11 : 66:47

I come in here on Fridays and just try to put a little levity on what we're doing because it's been a crazy world. But I think we're headed in the right direction now, don't you guys?

SPEAKER 03 : 66:54

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SPEAKER 03 : 68:50

It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. The word of the day is conspicuous. That's C-O-N-S-P-I-C-U-O-U-S. Could be easy to notice or obvious. Attracting attention as by being unusual or remarkable, noticeable. And I chose that word because... friday we share our quote of the day is from the medal of honor quote book from the center for american values and it always starts out with for conspicuous gallantry and i thought conspicuous would be a great word so your challenge is to use conspicuous in a sentence today and i mentioned the center for american values which is located in pueblo And these little Medal of Honor quote books are really special and could be a great Christmas gift. So you can find more information about that by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. But this is a quote from Medal of Honor recipient, Charles C. Hagmeister, United States Army, Medal of Honor, born 1946, died 2021. This is for actions taken on March 20, 1967. And he said this, integrity is when you do the right thing when no one is watching. And Kane, founder of Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado. Those are the kinds of things that our greatest generation, that they were taught. And that's not being taught in many schools these days.

SPEAKER 12 : 70:37

It is not because our system is set up to fight against us. And I know people don't want to believe that. I know I sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist. These folks, these government agencies are fighting against us. They're taking our tax dollars and they're fighting against our freedoms, our liberty, our property rights at every angle. So until we start speaking out and telling the truth, speak loud and often.

SPEAKER 03 : 71:04

And to that point, you mentioned these government agencies. And my hope is with the new Trump administration that we're going to reduce these government agencies. And of course, he has Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, which is the DOJ, or Department of Governmental Efficiency. And Karen, I think we're going to try to start DOJ Colorado and DOJ our cities and our counties. And I was trying to think about how could we reduce the effects of that government, because all of them have gotten too big. And I think with Trump at the federal level, I think that the radical activists are really going to try to push their policies at the local, the county, and the state level. So how can we be effective? We need to cut off these government grants is what I think we need to do. So I've been thinking about that. Any thoughts on that?

SPEAKER 20 : 72:00

I'm feeling a bit speechless. I think you and I have had these conversations that more public policy is never to the benefit of the consumer. And certainly in home ownership, the added policies, the added requirements that are made on housing have caused prices to go up and taken away the opportunity of choice. And the beauty of America is we have always had choices. And choices were made in the marketplace. And when you control the marketplace or take away that, prices go up. It's an amazing phenomena.

SPEAKER 03 : 72:41

It is. And I think that they realize what's happening with that. But there's still opportunity. Just give us an update. What's happening in the market? Real estate market now.

SPEAKER 20 : 72:51

I follow a coaching organization. It's called Buffini and Company. And Brian Buffini does a podcast twice a year. It's called Bold Predictions. And he spoke on Monday. And overall housing sales are the lowest. They're going to close out in 2024. It's the lowest amount of housing we have sold, units of housing we have sold since 1995. um it'll be just shy of four million and his hope is that that will increase he believes there's opportunity in 2025 because of potential new leadership well we are having new leadership and that new leadership will help in the marketplace and that we'll see maybe 4.5 million housing units sold so there's going to be opportunity out there he also believes that interest rates and i'd love lauren to weigh in on that will hover around six moving up and down about a half a percent throughout the year and there was a time in my career where interest rates literally change daily if not hourly and he believes that type a market is gonna return so we want people to reach out to learn who are interested in buying and get themselves pre-approved so that when interest rates start to move downward and it's positive, they can act in the market effectively and be ahead of the competition. And you've been busy. I know you have. I have. It's been a really exciting November and December, and I thank the dear Lord for the opportunity to serve everyone. Actually, several listeners. And we're going to close a transaction today of a lovely woman who we're selling a home of a dear, dear friend of hers who has passed away and who she provided care for over his last years. And this home is a special home to her. He was a special man to her and her family. And we have a lovely family moving into that home. So we're excited.

SPEAKER 03 : 74:54

And a great way to support the show is to support my sponsors. That's a great way to do that. So, Lauren Levy, I have a question for you because, Lauren Levy, everything mortgages. Let's give your phone number, Karen, before we do that.

SPEAKER 20 : 75:07

Oh, yes. My phone number is 303-877-7516.

SPEAKER 03 : 75:13

So, Lauren Levy, Everything Mortgages, in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York, first mortgage, second mortgage, reverse mortgage. And we've talked about, you said you marry the house and date the rate, right? But are there prepayment penalties for people if they've taken out a mortgage and interest rates drop quickly? Are there prepayment penalties if they refinance?

SPEAKER 08 : 75:41

No, those kind of went away with loans that were called stated income loans we used to have where people could just, you know, if you fit into this category or this, we used to be able to go to a website and let's say someone said they were a doctor and we said they made $150,000. As long as it fit into this area that this website would provide, it would work. You didn't have to show pay stubs. Those types of loans went away, as did the prepayment penalties. So those are no longer a thing.

SPEAKER 03 : 76:09

Okay.

SPEAKER 08 : 76:11

Unless on some home equity lines and things like that. But for the most part, they're not around anymore. I tell people all the time, the consumer can refinance whenever they want. The people that do their loans for them, like me, usually have a recapture of whatever we were compensated within the first six months. So I tell my people, if you could wait six months and a day, that'd be amazing. But truthfully, they don't have to. So yeah, there's no rules as to when and how often you can do it.

SPEAKER 03 : 76:38

Okay, so interest rates, where are they right now?

SPEAKER 08 : 76:42

They're not quite where Karen was saying. I wish they were. They're in the upper sixes, mid to upper sixes. It's been stubborn. I spend a lot of time educating people the best I can. There's a lot of people that have decided to wait to do things like refinance. You call people and say, look, this is an opportunity right now. I think you should do it because this is where we're at. They're like, well, I think the Fed's going to lower in November and then lower in December, and let's just hold off. But Just because the Fed lowers doesn't always work out well. It doesn't mean mortgage rates come down. Because some people now are looking at it, if the Fed lowers, it could cause inflation to rear its ugly head back. And we're seeing that a little bit. Even today there was some data where some of the prices index were a little higher.

SPEAKER 03 : 77:25

But do you not think, I've been watching these headlines on the way out, the old Biden-Harris administration is just doling money out to their cronies like crazy. This is money that they're printing that we don't have. When government prints money, that causes inflation. But it seems like the Fed doesn't seem to have a conversation about that.

SPEAKER 08 : 77:47

They have no control over that technically, right? I mean, they don't make money. The Fed, they just buy and sell bonds, you know? they print money though right but the legislative branch is the one that they've tried to control a little bit to be like hey you guys may not want to do this you know you may not want to give out another trillion dollars or yeah think you know they're so careful to not want to step on that toe you know because they want to be independent but There's other factors besides the printing of money. There's some worries right now, and I don't know what's going to come of it. I agree with some of these tariffs that President-elect Trump is talking about, but that could be inflationary as well. Because if we charge tariffs and those prices get just passed on to the consumer, that's inflationary. is all i'm trying to say they haven't been coming down like people thought they might okay okay taking longer okay excuse me lauren i think you mentioned in the past that it's the 10-year bond that dictates what the the rate is what i watch like all the time all day long yeah the reason it's the 10-year u.s treasury is because people like well if i do a 30-year loan why do i follow the 10-year treasury and it's because the majority of people don't stay in their loan for 30 years they refinance at some point to get cash out to put kids through college whatever where they just move and sell their home. No one really stays in it for 30 years anymore like they used to, like our parents maybe. And so it's what they call loosely tied. So if the 10-year treasury goes up, rates go up and vice versa. So I'm looking right now, the 10-year treasury is 435, which when rates were in the sub-3, the 10-year treasury was 0.5.

SPEAKER 03 : 79:29

Which is almost zero. That's unhealthy.

SPEAKER 08 : 79:31

No, that's not right. That's not a normal market, but... The rates in September, right before the Fed cut in September, were sub 4, you know, 3.63, I think is where it got. And that's when we started seeing rates that were down, you know, back down in the fives. But we're back up now.

SPEAKER 03 : 79:49

Okay. But people just need to be in contact with you would be a good idea.

SPEAKER 08 : 79:55

Yeah, always. And then when there's opportunity, I would just say to strike. Because back to your point, there are people that I have called six months ago that if they'd gotten that loan, they're like, well, let's just wait. Well, they've missed out on six, seven months now of having a lower rate while they've been waiting for it to go lower.

SPEAKER 03 : 80:12

Right, right.

SPEAKER 08 : 80:13

And I'm like, well, we'll just do it again. And there are fees, but I help with the fees with all of my customers as we do repetitive loans. I try not to charge them too many times.

SPEAKER 03 : 80:20

And for all of the Kim Munson Show listeners, what do you do?

SPEAKER 08 : 80:23

I cover the appraisal for them. So that's a huge cost.

SPEAKER 03 : 80:26

That's nice. That's nice. How can people reach you?

SPEAKER 08 : 80:28

The best is just call 303-880-8881.

SPEAKER 03 : 80:32

And Jim May, everything cattle. And you go, okay, Karen's everything real estate, Lauren's everything mortgages, and you're everything cattle.

SPEAKER 11 : 80:43

Yeah, I kind of made that up the other day. So my brothers and I, this is a third-generation family business, and our biggest expense is always interest. We have to buy all those cattle, and we have to feed them by the feed. And hang on until we sell them. And then it's just a rolling, you know, on the front end and, of course, on our ranches. And a lot of that is long term bought over time that we. So although we are at almost historic high cattle prices right now, all this interest and the cost of fuel and the cost of labor. And it's all tied together. But doing a lot of things wrong at all at the same time is really put a stranglehold on our economy. And I'm just so cautiously optimistic now to see. I think it's really good that Trump went through this four years ago. And I think what we're seeing in the last month or two is like, OK, he's. He's putting some people in there that can hold their place. They're smart. They're people like Elon Musk and Ramaswamy, the people that they're not even going to take any money for it. They don't need any money, right? And that's cool because they're just giving their service back to a country that gave them so much. And I think that's the best repayment we can have. I'm really excited about most of the people that are going in there. Homan on the border, that guy – you can't you can't fire him now that's just an appointment and he's gonna be tough and i hey 75 of my workforce is latino i love immigration in terms of getting those people in here and doing it right i hope we i hope we have a lot of doors in the wall that we can get them but we can't just let everybody walk in here you can see what's happening the crime and the uh it's just killing our And you think about it, we give a cell phone and maybe a $300 a night hotel room to people that have broken our laws. And it just, as an old cowboy sitting there, I'm like, man, you are rewarding people that are tearing us up.

SPEAKER 04 : 82:41

I know.

SPEAKER 11 : 82:42

I think there's, I heard this morning, there's Ironland down there on the border and Biden's trying to sell it for five cents on the dollar. That's our steal. Our taxes paid for all that. And he has no right really to go do that. He's breaking our country. He's hurting us again. And so many of his policies have, in my opinion. But I tell my kids when they're fairly young, I say, Economy 101 is if you took people 200 years ago, now it's almost been 250, but just came over here with their shirts on their backs. And in the span of less than 200 years, we became the most powerful country in the world. Kingdoms like England and everything over there, they had bigger – some of these people had kings for 4,000 years. And in 200 years, we became the powerhouse of the world. And that's important to think about. That's how good our capitalist system is, if you can leave it alone and don't foul it up too bad. And I'm hoping that Trump's going to get back to –

SPEAKER 03 : 83:41

doing some of the things that make sense i think he's a businessman and i think that's exactly what we need right now there's a lot of truth in that jim make we're from the same yeah area my dad would say things like that as well and and dad isms all the time so i appreciate that kane we're going to go to break here in just a minute but any comments on on this particular segment

SPEAKER 12 : 84:04

First of all, I love your poem. Thank you. If I can say this just real quick, I'd like to clarify. When I say white people are under attack, I like to be able to prove it, okay? And so if we look at the examples I just gave with Rittenhouse, with Penny, with McCloskey. In the first. In the first segment, yes.

SPEAKER 03 : 84:21

First hour, yeah.

SPEAKER 12 : 84:22

That's happening all over the country. But let's compare it to what happens in the black community. I'm gonna tell a couple names. Cash Gernon, G-E-R-N-O-N, four year old child was stabbed to death four years ago by a negro. You don't know the name because the media won't cover it. Jaslyn Adams, seven years old, out of Chicago, was targeted and killed sitting in a car in the passenger seat sitting in a McDonald's drive-thru. Why aren't they talking about this? Why aren't they talking about the three men that shot this child, targeted this child, killed her and her dad? So we contrast that with every time a Caucasian person chokes, shoots a person who needs to be shot or choked, it makes the news. It's all over the country. Politicians are demanding. And then we have 200 American Negroes killed every single week. A plane full of Negroes go down and are killed every week by whom, Cain? Other Negroes. And nobody says a word. It's an outrage. That is done on purpose. Jim, they want to divide us. They don't want a city slicker and a cowboy to ever join hands and go, we're going to take back our country. And so I would challenge you, the name is Jocelyn Adams, you can Google the name, Jocelyn Adams death, you'll see the picture of this cutest little girl, and then Cash Gernon, G-E-R-N-O-N, death. Look it up, in fact we're probably gonna start a website that A loving memory of these victims that have been killed, these men, women, and children, innocent victims, where people can go to the site and learn about them because no one talks about these innocent babies.

SPEAKER 03 : 86:21

Well, and the point is, is the Marxist ideology is to divide us. And we'll talk more about that when we come back. This show comes to you because of our sponsors, Karen Levine, Lauren Levy, La Vaca Meat Company. I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. Bob Boswell was on the studio or on the show yesterday. And then I dropped his little gift off yesterday afternoon. We had a great conversation about that. But Laramie Energy provides this reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant energy source that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. And so greatly appreciate that. And right now we're also promoting Doyle Glass's book, Swift Sword, which is about some Marines that got pinned down in Vietnam.

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SPEAKER 03 : 89:02

It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. In studio with me is Kane, founder of... Task Force Freedom, Northern Colorado, Karen Levine, Remax Realtor, Lauren Levy, Everything Mortgages, and Cattleman with Lavaca Meat Company, Jim May. A couple of things here. First of all, I did want to make sure that I mentioned the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team as well. Roger's been in business for 48 years, taking care of his clients and his family and giving back to the community, and give them a call for a complimentary appointment. That's 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there. I had mentioned this, and Pam Long brought this to our attention, and she was our guest yesterday, and her essay, The Best and the Worst of Colorado Politics 2024, will publish this weekend today. But our soldiers at Fort Carson, apparently the reports are food is scarce and the quality is crummy. So Zach and I decided that we wanted to do a standalone email that went out yesterday. So if you're on our email list, that's in your inbox with all these different representatives and people down at Fort Carson to reach out and say, Fix this. This is not okay. And the picture was a piece of toast and some lima beans. And the most vulnerable are the youngest soldiers who may not have transportation to get off the base. And money is deducted from what they're paid to pay for this. And so be sure and reach out. And I want to say thank you to Connie. She texted me and said that she said, I emailed my letters about Fort Carson last night before going to sleep. And I know Gammy, she was on it, of course.

SPEAKER 01 : 91:10

For sure.

SPEAKER 03 : 91:11

She was on it. And many of you have reached out. So we need to be loud on this for sure. And let's see here. I wanted to ask you, Cain, I want to talk a little bit more about Daniel Penny. And you mentioned BLM, and that's not the Bureau of Land Management, Jim May, but BLM, Black Lives Matter. They destroyed, the thing about it was in the Summer of Love, they destroyed not just white businesses, but all businesses, right?

SPEAKER 12 : 91:44

They did, and it's interesting because when they go into these areas and they attack predominantly white people, they're not asking them their affiliation. They're not, are you a Democrat? Because if you are, we're gonna go next door. No, they're there to create chaos and to divide us. These are horrible, horrible, let me ask you this. How many people denounced these two fools that stood up there and was inciting violence against American citizens? Tell me one politician, Barack Obama, Barry Satoru, whatever his name is, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the black cock ass.

SPEAKER 07 : 92:22

How many, did I say it wrong?

SPEAKER 12 : 92:26

The black caucus. I'm just wondering, can we say that?

SPEAKER 03 : 92:30

Do you need to dump that?

SPEAKER 12 : 92:33

We'll leave that up to the FCC.

SPEAKER 08 : 92:34

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER 12 : 92:36

I said it wrong? Okay, maybe so. Where do they stand up and go, what are you doing? Shut your pie hole. You cannot, that's a terrorist threat. A police officer is obligated to go on that stage and put that person in handcuffs. Okay. Okay, so he has activated people throughout the country that are going to go out and harm folks. His words, his rhetoric. Who is this? So there were two BLM leaders that were on the podium outside of the courthouse during the... Transgender thing? No, this is during the Penny case. Oh, okay. During the Penny case and calling for violence because the system worked. This young man was found innocent and he didn't like it. And so he's activating people to go out and commit violence against Americans because of this young man who defended himself and others.

SPEAKER 03 : 93:34

So I used to go back. I used to be in the ladies clothing business. I used to go back to New York four times a year for each of the seasons. end up on the subway. I didn't like the subway. I didn't like it that much. I did like going down and then getting into this car, this train car, and something happened, it'd be difficult to get out, and there were people that And we're kind of saying some weird stuff. And so I didn't really like it. And so if I was in a situation where this Jordan Neely was making all of these threats, I know that right now, even as I talk about it, I'm getting a knot in my stomach. For somebody to step up and protect us, to be a protector.

SPEAKER 12 : 94:15

That car was full of men, women, children, all races, women. one guy one guy stepped up and goes he's gonna kill someone and i'm gonna stop him and you know what he said the other day after him he was found innocent i'd do it again oh my god do it again right now he goes we are obligated to protect the innocent i'd do it again i'd suffer i he's gonna suffer for decades to come behind this i'd suffer again to protect the innocent we as American citizens need to follow that young man. Now, let me say this. A friend of mine received a threat. He sent it to me last night. Some moron, I'm gonna say his name, is saying, I'm gonna find out where you live, and I'm gonna come to your house. And he said, I've already arranged for bail. And I said, that's hilarious, because he believes that he's going to go to jail. Well, you know... Right, Taz? Right, Taz? I know you hear me, girl. He believes he's going to jail. I know her husband. He's not going to jail. You cannot make those kind of threats. You don't ever want to show up to a defender's home threatening to harm him and his family. This person doesn't understand. He's a fool. He doesn't understand what he's doing.

SPEAKER 03 : 95:35

Well, you know... What I've seen, and actually I had, Kurt Gerwitz is on the show regularly. And right after the election, he said, Kim, I wanted to listen to the show because I wanted to, after Trump had won, to hear you kind of gloat or something. I'm like, no gloating here. I said, we have work to do. And we need to work to come together. And, you know, spiking the ball in front is not gonna be bringing us together. So we need to bring each other together.

SPEAKER 12 : 96:08

I think that's important, Kim, that we do. We come together with the left, the right, the middle. We come together as American citizens. However, When individuals threaten your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness and your property rights, you have every right to defend yourself. And we have to understand and recognize when a person says, I'm going to come and get you, you need to prepare for their arrival. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER 03 : 96:36

So, well, I think we'll go to break. And I kind of got my breaks mixed up this last time around. And we have in studio Kane, founder of Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado, Karen Levine, Remax Alliance, Lauren Levy for Everything Mortgages, and Cattleman Jim May. And I think I'll get this right. Now, we don't have John Bosen here. But if you have been injured, be sure and reach out as soon as possible to Bosen Law.

SPEAKER 18 : 97:06

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SPEAKER 16 : 97:51

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SPEAKER 03 : 99:45

It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. And sometime between now and the end of the year, you can make a tax-deductible donation to the USMC Memorial Foundation. And I think it's really important that we continue to support this organization that remembers and honors those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. That website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. The text line is 720-605-0647. And Karen, we've got a question for you, and I think it goes to Lauren as well. How much has government housing taken away sales in the private sector?

SPEAKER 20 : 100:43

I think that's a really valuable question. And if we look over the last three to five years and the activity in the marketplace with interest rates that were held artificially low, that got a lot of activity into the marketplace. But what we saw was equity firms coming into our communities and because they were able to pay cash, that looked more favorable to a seller. And so equity firms came in and took to many, many communities, suburbs, cities, and bought up an abundant, and I don't have statistics to share with your listener, abundant amount of single family homeownership type units because they put guidelines on that they were going to go to the median price range. and and buy up all those homes which then caused those price of homes to go up because we had less and less inventory and then the average american homeowner home buyer was not able to achieve that dream or they achieved it at a higher cost so yeah it was a domino effect i would say

SPEAKER 03 : 101:54

The other dot to connect on that is then those home values go up, and we get rid of Gallagher, the Gallagher Amendment here in Colorado, which had been the guardrails on property taxes. And so the next thing you know is property taxes go up significantly as well, right?

SPEAKER 20 : 102:10

Right. And I find it interesting that the one thing Colorado has had in our favor has been Tabor and Gallagher and Bruce, right? All the things that were to... question or hold true those we elected to keep our taxes down, to be thoughtful, and to make good financial decisions on our behalf. And interesting, I think Kane and everyone in this room has alluded to, is that we were sold a bill of goods, that getting rid of those things was a good thing. And I remember when I was not as educated being in rooms when our elected officials, our representatives would come in and tell us that their biggest problem to do anything for us was Tabor. And then one day you talk about connecting dots. I said to myself, wait a minute, the majority of the citizens in our state voted for that. Shouldn't they be upholding it? You think? But they do not and have not. So yeah, the dots continue to get connected. And I think you made an important point also, Kim, which is government subsidies in the rental arena allowed developers to come in with more favorable financing to build rental units, not homeownership units. And then you... Add to that the layer of construction defects, which was passed almost 15 years ago, and we have not been able to roll that back either.

SPEAKER 03 : 103:44

Curious. Very curious. So Lorne Levy, Everything Mortgages, it was a big aha for me really a few months ago. When I did not realize that government, the federal government, through their financing tools, have made it favorable for these apartments to be built. And so they get favorable financing and also maybe subsidies from local or county or state government. Because I drive up and down the corridor, the I-25 corridor, and I'm like, these help more people. apartments and they look like a lot of them look like soviet style apartments and there's one i just saw it's so ugly but then they painted a picture of flowers or something on the side of it but it's a government has been put a government agency's been pushing this

SPEAKER 08 : 104:38

Totally. You and I have been talking about this for years and years and years when I used to say that, you know, Karen mentioned these hedge funds that were buying all these rental properties, and we tried to find evidence, and I would send you articles. It wasn't just BlackRock. It was other ones that were the cash buyers out there that were screwing everything up. And then, yeah, I know from being on the investment side, too, that these apartment complexes get FHA financing, which is lower rates. It's a form of governments picking winners and losers, like you said. Mm-hmm. Builders that are building condos and stuff have to get bank financing, which is normal rates, we'll call it, not reduced and not subsidized. But you mentioned the I-25 corridor. That's totally true. But just drive around anywhere. It seems like anywhere there's an open field or a strip mall has been torn down and all of a sudden there's a huge apartment building going up. It seems crazy. You go up by the airport now or by the Gaylord Hotel. I was out there the other day. I'm like, look at all these apartments going up. It's insane how they're being incentivized to do that rather than build homes.

SPEAKER 20 : 105:42

I'm curious, huh, Karen Levine? Yes, it is curious. And what somewhat unrelated, but what came to mind is the other threat that we are seeing nationwide, but particularly here in Colorado, is insurance. And so what's happening is that our homeowners are trying to get their insurance renewed and they're being denied. And without insurance, they can't get financing. And so another roadblock, young lady, first time home buyer called me in tears yesterday. She was in training for a new job opportunity that would better her income and her education and all the things. And She's young and she did not really pay attention to the snail mail that came through her mailbox. And apparently the lender was short $16 in her escrow account to pay her insurance. And so they sent the bill to her. She didn't pay it. Her insurance lapsed. She went to reinstate it and they wouldn't reinstate it for her. And we, because of relationships that I have, went to my insurance person, and we were able to get her insurance at a little bit higher rate. Didn't really, you know, rape her, the rate. It was doable and got her out of this mess. But one of our rental renewals came across this week, and it was 100% increase.

SPEAKER 03 : 107:15

Well, and we've talked with Roger Mangin, State Admin Insurance. In his different interviews, we're trying to explain what's happening with this. And I think all of these things isn't just an accident. I think, Kane, that there are those that are pushing these agendas, Kane.

SPEAKER 12 : 107:32

Absolutely. And one of the things I have a question about is public housing. I understand that if you want to develop, don't you have to make a percentage of those apartments affordable housing? And whether you agree with that or not, I think the government, that's overreach. Why do I have to negotiate with you to have affordable housing so I can build this business? And it's just continuous government overreach and involved in our lives. And we need to change that.

SPEAKER 08 : 108:03

Especially if you want to build condo units, they make a percentage of them be a certain price or lower.

SPEAKER 03 : 108:09

And what does that do to people in the elevator when you see each other? It's division. It creates division. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER 12 : 108:17

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to yell. Did I yell, Joe?

SPEAKER 03 : 108:20

You said your wife said no yelling. She told me not to yell. No yelling. Jim May and your industry, which provides, well, the cattleman, I think is, it's really the picture of the entrepreneur. The cattleman is freedom. And I think that that industry is under attack as well.

SPEAKER 11 : 108:40

It is. It is. The one and the 99 thing I always use, and I guess you're from my same background, but one farmer or rancher produces for 99 other people. So we're the 1%. And the things we do have to be done. I I think this is so interesting, your conversation about the real estate and everything. I heard since COVID in Washington, D.C., about 6% of the people now go to an office to work, right? Everybody just calls it in and works at home. And I think Elon and those guys are going to look at that. So we've got how many square feet of massive offices that are just sitting empty? And we're sitting there talking about, well, you know, real estate is so high, this and that and the other. And we're giving out free hotel rooms and taking that away from the other people. And maybe you want to stay in a hotel. We've been so stupid. And what I love what Cain's saying about, I have felt more unification in the last month than I felt in previous four or five years. Yes, sir. And he called himself the unifier Biden did when he came. I'm going to unify. He was the biggest divider that I can ever think of. It almost came. The press was here. Everybody else was over here. And the election showed where we were. We came to our, I think, to our senses, but. I don't know. I live in a business where if you don't get out there and swing it, the cattle don't get fed. It's all in front of you. I respect the people and love the people that work with me. They are hardworking folks. I love my industry. It's a great life and I'm proud to do it. I just hope we get a little bit of that same thing going through our system now. You know, Cain, I've enjoyed you so much and I'm so pleasured to meet you, but I'm thinking back to my childhood or the 70s and 80s when, you know, I think we were really growing together then. I think of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. I think of Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder sitting around playing Ebony and Ivory. And people stopped worrying about what color somebody's skin was. And now it seems to me the most racist people are the ones that... on the other side of it and they're just to dig it to to to stick i think i think i think jim i'm a truth teller i think it started with barack obama yeah i'm sorry our first black president caused some of these problems 100 okay anyway well we're going to do this again next

SPEAKER 03 : 111:02

Maybe I'm stepping on toes.

SPEAKER 10 : 111:04

Maybe I should shut up.

SPEAKER 03 : 111:05

You're so radical, Jim. Cain, thank you. Karen Levine, thank you. Lauren Levy, thank you. Jim May, thank you. Our quote for the end of the show is Albert Einstein, who said this, whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted in important affairs. And today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.

SPEAKER 05 : 111:37

Merry Christmas. And I don't want no one to cry. But tell them if I don't survive, I was born.

SPEAKER 14 : 112:04

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