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The conversation extends into the nuances of transitioning from work life to retirement, a major life change that demands careful consideration. Al discusses the transition paths available, from consulting post-retirement to charitable contributions and volunteering, ensuring both financial security and fulfilling personal development. Tune in for strategies to maximize your retirement income potential and learn ways to blend financial planning with meaningful post-career activities.
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Welcome to Retirement Unpacked with Al Smith, owner of Golden Eagle Financial. You want a retirement plan that alleviates your fears about the future so you know your money will last. As a chartered financial consultant, Al Smith will help you find a balance between the risk and reward of the market and the safety of your retirement income. And now, here's your host, Al Smith.
Al Smith (Host) :
Welcome to another program of Retirement Unpacked. I want to thank you for tuning in. we could call loose ends. And some of those are things that need to be done before the end of the year. I know I've talked about these, but since we have only a few weeks remaining in the year, I will remind folks about them anyway. The one being... required minimum distributions must be taken care of before December 31st. And I would suggest that you don't wait until between Christmas and New Year's because financial companies, investment companies, insurance companies, and so forth, companies who hold IRAs get very busy with That time of year. So I would suggest that you take care of that earlier. And if you don't have an advisor and you have an IRA and you need some kind of assistance with that, then definitely give me a call. That's something I can help with. Also, as I sit down. and do planning for people. One of the things we often talk about are converting traditional IRAs to Roth. That's something also that needs to be done before the end of the year. And it requires also some planning because when you convert a traditional IRA to Roth, then that becomes a taxable event. You have a tax-free Roth that's going to grow tax-free and so forth. But when you make that transition, you pay tax on that traditional IRA all at once in the year that you do it. So what that usually involves is I will sit down with people and If they're still working, we'll take a look at their most recent pay stubs and take a look at what we think they have earned throughout the year. And I also have cheat sheets with tax tables. And we can look and see, well, will you still be able to be in the same tax bracket in the event that you convert a certain amount of traditional IRA to Roth? So we can estimate and estimate. Often people, even couples, can remain in as low as a 12% tax bracket and still convert a little bit of their traditional IRA to Roth. Now, people who are in a higher tax bracket, the next bracket from 12% jumps to 22%. But people with both a husband and a wife working, that 22% bracket goes way into a substantially higher income. So if a couple or an individual is already in the 22% bracket, they can probably convert a healthy amount of traditional IRA to Roth. Now, years ago, before the tax changes that occurred in 2017, you were able to write off charitable deductions because the standard deduction was relatively low. Right now, for individuals, it's a ballpark around $13,000. And For couples, for 2025, it's nearly $30,000. So the possibility or the likelihood of being able to write off charitable donations has been kind of minimized. But for those whose contributions exceed that amount, they can... Take a look at their own tax brackets, any charities that they would like to support. And in addition to actual dollar amounts, there are other things you can write off like mileage and things of that nature. that can be helpful as we get near year end. Now some other things to be thinking about as we're getting close to the end of the year is a little bit of planning that you want to look at for the coming year. If you're trying to save as much as you can for retirement, you might want to look at how much you're going to be deducting, not deducting, but how much are you having taken out of your paycheck to go into your 401k. You may want to look at IRA contributions, spousal IRA contributions, and these are things you can sort of plan as we get near the end of the year for the coming year. And as I know, everyone does get busy at this time of year, but a lot of people's work schedule actually diminishes a little bit. So this creates not only some family time, but some time to think, well, gee, what do I want 2025 to look like? And then I would ask that for myself, not only financially, but what things do I want to accomplish in this coming year? I know this sounds like a New Year's resolution talk, but these are things that are also worthwhile talking about before the end of the year, because often that's when we have time. We're not completely back into the the work mode, so to speak. So take advantage of that time that you have remaining. And if it's something that you would want to have some consultation about, if you're not sure about some things about your IRA, if you're not sure if you're on track toward retirement, contact my office, 303- 744-1128. And there may be some circumstances or some things that you haven't thought about that we can have a conversation about once you come into the office. And I know everyone's circumstance is different. But no matter how unusual it is, there's some solution for whatever it is you have going on. I had a conversation recently with someone who was fortunate enough to have an inheritance. And part of that inheritance was taxable and part of it was not. And there was an obligation by the platform where... The person had their existing account to withdraw a certain amount of money, but by changing the platform, we were able to minimize the amount that she had to take out which sincerely helped the circumstances. So contacting my office and taking a look at your situation can be extremely helpful. And again, I know everybody's busy this time of year, but it's also a good time of year to sit down and take a look if you are on track for the things that you want to accomplish in this coming year. Now, Those of you who are investors, the market seems to be doing quite well so far this year. There have been only a very small amount of corrections. And a lot of my clients, as well as people who have 401ks and so forth, have experienced good growth this past year. And if this is something that you believe you want to take advantage of also, then, again, contact my office. We'll take a look and see if where your assets are positioned, see if they're going to be in your best interest. Hopefully, you don't have what I refer to as lazy money, money that's not earning a very good return. And we all know what inflation has been like in these past few years. And if your investments and if your assets, if they're not working hard for you, then inflation can have a much more significant effect. I know when interest rates were raised recently to fight off some of that. inflation. People were happier with higher interest rates. But when inflation was between seven and nine percent, five or five and a half percent CD rates don't seem to quite cut it. And so I think it's truly important to sit down and take a look at how hard your assets are working for you. And does that mean you should think about making some changes? And if that's something that's on the back of your mind, again, give my office a call, 303-744-1128. And if I'm not there, it goes to voicemail, but I answer my voicemails. rather quickly. I get in touch with people as quickly as I can, and that's kind of how I run my business. I try to be there when people call the office. They'll either reach myself or my office manager, and we'll schedule a time to meet. Sometimes I'll meet with people later in the day. A And I'll meet with them occasionally on a Saturday or late afternoon, early evening, depending on people's work schedule. But I think it's important to have a partner as you move closer to retirement. You're trying to accumulate wealth for your own retirement, possibly to help for your children's education. or maybe some financial goal that you have in the future, and to make certain you're on track, sitting down and doing some projections, a few calculations can be extremely helpful. And another thing I haven't talked about that I will be talking about, especially as we get further along into the coming year, is people who are making that transition. A whole lot of the people who come into my office are making a transition from their working lives into retirement. And my earlier book, which is 18 holes to retirement, has a lot of good tips on that. And if you'd like to read about that, it's a story of two people playing golf, a young man and another gentleman who's about to retire. and he has a lot of changes that he's been making in his life between him and his wife, and these are indicative of the changes and the choices and the decisions people make as they make that transition into retirement. Now, if people don't make those decisions, until right before they retire, then that's not always the best because that's like when you're kind of backed up against the wall, so to speak. So if you are a few years from retirement, there's a lot of things out there that you might want to be thinking about. Many people still have pensions, especially people who are working for governmental entities. This is a major decision time when you get near retirement because people who have pensions have to decide, do I want the full single pension? Or if I'm married, do I want a survivorship benefit? And also many of the survivorship benefits offer alternatives. For example, the survivor can receive the full 100% pension of the primary worker. Or the survivor, which can be a husband or a wife, can receive maybe two-thirds or possibly even half. Now, some things to think about with regard to that kind of a pension decision are, are what other sources of income would my spouse have if I died? Another thing to think about is the health of the primary worker, because if his or her health were diminished and they have a shorter life expectancy, then it's a very strong likelihood that the survival will receive an income that lasts for a considerable period of time. And after the break, we're going to talk about a few more things that have to do with people making that transition from work to retirement. It's a big transition, and the more planning and thinking about it that people do, the better off they'll be. We'll talk more about that right after the break.
Al Smith (Host) :
Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial is your key to ending the year on track. You need to take your required minimum distributions from your IRA investments before the end of the year. And if you have more than one, Al will help you figure out the smartest way to do that. Also, if you plan to convert all or part to Roth, it must be done by December 31st. Al can work with you to determine the ideal amount to convert tax-wise. We'll be right back. Investment advisory services offered through Brookstone Capital Management, LLC, a registered investment advisor. BCM and Golden Eagle Financial Limited are independent of each other. Insurance products and services are not offered through BCM, but are offered and sold through individually licensed and appointed agents.
Al Smith (Host) :
Welcome back to Retirement Unpacked. And I'm going to beat these two topics into the ground until January 1st. Your RMDs need to be taken out before December 31st. And if you're thinking about converting part of your traditional IRA to Roth, that also needs to be done before December 31st. If that's something you need assistance with, call my office. At 303-744-1128. And we were talking a little bit about making the transition from work to retirement. And one of the things that's interesting is it used to be, especially many, many years ago, people would work for a company for 25, 35, 40 years, possibly even longer. And then once they would retire, they would take their pension back when people had pensions and their Social Security and kind of right off into the sunset. But since that time, often people work for multiple employers. They may have 401ks, sometimes small ones, sometimes larger ones, that are with previous employers. And as people move from one residence to another, they may lose track of some of those old 401ks. And the state of Colorado, like many other states, has a large... for lack of a better word, of missing money. And that can be bank accounts. It can be 401ks. I don't have the dollar amount, but I know it's an enormous amount of money that is in people's names that they may have forgotten about or the people may have passed on. and when that is not claimed after a certain period and again i apologize i don't have the precise details but eventually that money will be the state of colorado will become the ward of that money so as people get closer to retirement it's really good to take an inventory of where your resources are if you work for previous companies Look at those old 401ks and they can be if you used to work somewhere, those could be rolled into IRAs long before you retire. And also that gives you a lot more choices and investment choices. You can take an old 401k and you can move it into precious metals. The company I work with, Brookstone Capital Management, they even have an exchange traded fund there. that offers crypto. And as a general rule, I don't recommend that, but it is available, and there's a special disclaimer that needs to be signed in the event people like to move into crypto. People have made enormous amounts of money in it, and they've also lost enormous amounts. But again, as far as that transition, most of the thinking and most of your choices are going to be around crypto. You know, financial choices. Where do I want my 401k to go? How is that 401k, once I roll it into an IRA, how can I make certain that the income I can draw from that, how can I make certain that that will last as long as I do? People right now, I think it's no secret that people are living longer and longer and And we also don't know what the last six months or two or three years of our life is going to be like. It may be that if we need care, instead of living on 4,000 or 5,000 a month, it may cost 10,000 or 12,000 a month because of long-term care or memory care or something like that. So it's good to think in terms of how would all of my resources be able to handle that kind of big expense. So a lot of things to be kind of asking yourself as you move into that. retirement from working full time. And a lot of people don't do that where you just quit working one day and the next day you're fully retired. There was a movie called About Schmidt. And it had Jack Nicholson. And the very beginning of the movie, he's working at an insurance company in Omaha, Nebraska. The way they're dressed and everything else shows the tremendous level of... There's conservatism in that community, but he's just sitting at a desk that has absolutely nothing on it, looking at the clock, waiting for 5 o'clock to come. This is his last day before retirement. But a lot of people make a different kind of transition where they will move from full-time to part-time depending on someone's work. they may become a consultant. A lot of people who are in software or engineering or some field like this are able to retire from their primary employer and do consulting where they may work for 10 or 15 hours a week and make a significant income on their own schedule as a consultant or a contractor. and so forth. And I know a lot of people who work in various fields do this for a considerable period. And they find it useful because they can make a substantial income and sort of do it on their own schedule. Another really important thing is even if you've been blessed with a very healthy nest egg and you've been frugal and haven't spent a lot of money, what is incredibly important is plan how you want to spend your time working. Once you make that transition into retirement, in order to get some joy or fulfillment out of your retirement, it's wise to look and think in terms of how you would like to give back. How can you help those who are less fortunate? If you're closely involved with your church, most churches have all kinds of different services. volunteer opportunities from being involved in mission trips that go all kinds of different places all over the world to assisting younger people as a tutor, people who have skills in math like engineers and so forth. They can be very helpful with high school kids who are having difficulty with their algebra or trigonometry or something. And for someone who is a retired engineer from Lockheed Martin, this would end up being relatively easy. There's also lots of things you can do for folks who have certain disabilities. There's a nonprofit here in Denver that specializes in taking children with disabilities on horseback rides. Obviously, very gentle rides and so forth. But the children and adults who have disabilities, they get tremendous enjoyment from activities like this. And nonprofits and organizations who do this kind of thing, they need financial help as well as volunteers. to take care of the horses, schedule things, and do all kinds of things to bring those bright smiles to people who wouldn't ordinarily get an opportunity to ride a horse. And the same thing is true. A client of mine spent years as a volunteer at Winter Park in the disabled ski program. and they do great things at Winter Park for the disabled ski program. I've not personally been involved in it, but I've seen them on the slopes. I used to ski more often than I do more recently, but I used to see the disabled skiers, and they get an enormous amount of joy from what they're doing. So in addition to... planning how you're going to use your nest egg, think in terms of how you'd like to be using your time. Long before retirement, it's a good idea to sort of put together a schedule of what you'd want your retirement to look like in terms of spending your time. There's silver sneakers to maintain good health. Take a class with you and your spouse about cooking. Now that you have a little bit more time and you're both not working, there's ways of making healthy meals that you probably hadn't thought about back when you were both working and not certain what we're going to have for dinner. And that sort of thing. So a lot of things to think about as you make that transition into retirement. And if these are some things that are coming to your mind and you'd like to have more answers, contact my office. We'll have a conversation, 303-744-1128. God bless you. Thank you for listening. And let's continue to pray for the new leaders in our country and the folks in Israel. Bye now.
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Thank you for listening to Retirement Unpacked with your host, Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial.
Join Michael as he delves into the intricacies of estate planning, focusing on the complexities surrounding mortgages and home ownership. In this episode, he shares a case study involving a reverse mortgage and discusses the nuances of asset transfers and probate. Whether you're planning your estate or simply curious about the process, Michael offers invaluable insights that can help demystify this often confusing subject. Listeners will gain a clear understanding of how mortgages work in the context of estate planning and what happens to these financial commitments after a person passes away. Also, featured on the show are discussions on common misconceptions about homeownership and mortgages, providing listeners with the knowledge they need to make informed decisions about their assets. Discover how Michael's mobile estate planning service can assist you in creating a seamless estate plan tailored to your unique needs. Through engaging dialogue and expert advice, this episode provides a comprehensive overview of the estate planning process and the critical role mortgages play.
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Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey. Over a decade ago, attorney Michael Bailey turned his attention to estate law after he recognized the unacceptable number of adults without proper end of life planning. Michael recognizes that many of his clients have difficulty finding the time for making a proper estate plan. That's why he became the Mobile Estate Planner. He will go to wherever you are to assist you with your estate planning, including writing wills, trusts, and giving you the information you need to avoid probate. Now, ATX, Ask the Experts, presents Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey.
Michael Bailey (Host) :
Good afternoon. Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is... 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line, my phone number is 720-394-6887. And So here we are to try to do your estate planning so you can leave your family something besides just a loan. So we've got all sorts of All sorts of things to talk about. And I had someone, so my wife is a reverse mortgage loan officer. And she had somebody who called in and was talking to her. And apparently what had happened was their mother had passed away and left a house to her and her sister. And so her and her sister are trying to see if they can get a reverse mortgage on the house. so that one sister can buy the other one out, and then the sister that's buying the other one out can stay in the... It's one of those things that it just works. So she's trying to figure it out. And so she asked me if I was busy. It happened to be right during the middle of another appointment, so I said, yes, I am busy. Why? Why? So she wrote me back and said she had an estate planning question. So I said, okay, well, let's talk about this estate planning question. So apparently mom died about six months ago, and they haven't left the house. And they said that the bank said, oh, we'll just go ahead and keep paying on the mortgage, which is kind of unusual because usually when people die, people don't want them to just – The banks were like, well, you know that if someone's died, that means that ownership is going to transfer. That will trigger the due on sale clause. and due on transfer clause of most mortgages. So it's somewhat unusual that a bank would just let somebody keep paying on a mortgage after the owner of the house died. And so, you know, for me, I'm kind of like, that leads me to believe that there might have been one or both of the daughters that had signed on the loan as a co-borrower. And so there's somebody who's still alive who's paying on the mortgage because otherwise it would make much more sense for – that somebody would have – as to why they would not call the loan due or want it all paid off all at once because normally with loans – When somebody dies, the loan becomes due and it either needs to be refinanced or it needs to be the property needs to be sold so that the house can be paid off and or the loan can be paid off and paid off out of the proceeds from the sale of the house. So we've got so there's different things that happen there. And so, you know, that was kind of my first thing was like, okay, well, that's, you know, my wife says, well, that's, that was weird. And I'm like, yeah, it is a little weird. But it's also, you know, if it's nice that, you know, the bank is letting them pay on the house and stay there. And so they're like, Well, so this this lady was saying that she needed to, you know, she had talked to the loan people before. They said, Well, you know, you do need to go through if you want to try to get a reverse mortgage, you need to go through the probate process and transfer ownership of the house from individuals from from the from mom to the two sisters the two daughters and so um this lady was asking my wife she's like well we have an appointment with the county to do a transition deed which i've never heard of so i'm not entirely sure i mean she probably there's probably something that she's thinking she's doing i don't know that transition deed is the correct legal term and i'd want clarification from that before I answered that question. But she wanted to know what, you know, and so she was asking my wife if she should cancel the meeting with the county because they were going to do a reverse mortgage. And I'm like, well, and so Marv's like, well, you know, you probably want to go meet with the county and see what's going on because you might need to probably need to file for probate if you have just a will. And I was like, well, you know, maybe they have a beneficiary's deed. That's possible. It's possible, possible that they were. joint tenants. And so there's something else that they can do there. It's also possible that there is a will, then just the will needs to go through probate. And so, you know, there's, there's kind of a, quite a few unknowns here that you'd want to figure out with the ownership of the house before you can figure out what you're going to do with a loan or a reverse mortgage. And so, you know, I was kind of talking through that with my wife. She's like, well, you know, you didn't tell me anything I didn't know. I'm like, well, that's good. I think apparently I have conversations with my wife about what I do for a living and she's learned some things. But I also had that kind of more general conversation with my wife about ownership and mortgages. And when I meet with people... And we start talking about their assets and what you want to do with the assets and who would get the assets. People are always very, very quick to jump in and tell me all about how... all about what their mortgage is like. And I'm like, okay, that's great. But the thing is that we're talking about transferring your assets and who's going to get them. But we need to talk about the mortgage. And I'm like, well, see, ownership and mortgages, although they are connected, they're not the same thing. And they're not always what's most important. People are like, oh, well, you know, But if I have a mortgage when I die, then the bank's going to come and take the house and it won't matter anyway. I'm like, no, that's not how it works. When I'm preparing trusts for people, I'll ask them for a copy of the deed to the house. And they'll say, well, we don't have a deed to the house. The bank has it because we're still paying our mortgage. And I'm like, OK. We're going to just stop right there because that is something that probably I would say I would estimate 97, 98% of America does not understand is the way that a mortgage and a house and ownership works. So when you buy a house, you are the owner of the house. And then the bank will put a lien, which is a way to make sure that they get paid, against your house for the value of the mortgage. So you own the house. As part of what you do when you buy the house is... There will be a deed that transfers ownership from the previous owner to you as the current owner. So you own the house and you have a copy of that deed. You have it. The title company may report, record it for you, but there will be a copy of it in your closing papers. You own the house, not the bank, not somebody else, but you own the house. Now, if you go to transfer the house, the bank wants to be paid back. Whatever is left of the value of their, um, of their loan you know so they they don't want you to transfer the house and not get paid so that's why they have the lien and they'll file what's called a deed of trust against the house so that when you when um you go to sell the house title companies will do a title search they'll look and they'll say oh hey well hey we we see that you have this house that you own, but there is a deed of trust against it for about half the value of the house. So when you sell the house, half the value is going to go to that bank and half the value will go to you. So you can then use it to put it into whatever, whether you buy a new house or whatever you want to do with it. There's different options available. You just actually have to do it that way. And so sometimes, and so, and we talk about that and people are like, oh, I don't understand that. I'm like, that's because you're thinking of the house, not as a house. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on KLZ 560 AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And one more time, 720-394-6887. So people are thinking, they're like, oh, I didn't know that's how it worked for a house. And I say, yes, that's because you're thinking of it like it's a car. Because when you buy a car and you have a loan on a car, then the company that is, that has the loan on the car, they hold onto the title. So we bought a car years ago and, you know, we, had a loan and so we were paying on the loan and once the loan was paid off then the company that had the loan they sent us the title so we could go and we could We then had that title so we could show that we owned the car and we could pass it on and sell it to somebody else. Because if you have a car that has a loan on it and you go to sell it, then the company that had the loan wants to be paid back. That's why it's always a good thing to buy a car for less than the full value because cars lose value when you drive them off the lot, especially if they're brand new. And then you're like, oh, well, you know, if we try to sell this car and it's worth less than what we paid for it, then we have to make up the difference. And, you know, the loan company wants to be paid back from the sale of the car. They also want to be paid back the difference. But the loan company holds on to the title until such time as you're done paying. And then they send you the title to the car. Well, with a house, it's the opposite, where you get title, and then if you don't pay on it, then they will come and try to take it. That's the whole foreclosure process. The foreclosure process is the bank saying, oh, you owe way too much money. You haven't been paying us on this house. So now we have to foreclose on the property, which means basically we're going to collect that debt against the property. So because you haven't been paying, and because you haven't been doing what you're supposed to do, we now think you're a bad bet to hold on to this house. We thought you were an okay bet when you bought the house. That's why we loaned you the money. But now you've proved to us that you can't pay this loan. So we think you're a bad bet. So we're going to come in and we're going to say, hey, this is a bad bet. This debt's not going to get paid. Or these were not being paid under the terms of when we're supposed to. So We would like to, we want to foreclose on the house and we want to force the house to be sold so that we can get paid back on our debt since you're not doing your job of paying on the loan and paying on the mortgage. And so that's the foreclosure process. That's why a bank can't just come in and say, you know what? You are in our house. We own it. You have not paid. So get out. Kind of like you're a renter in your own house. Renters, there's other laws that prevent renters from just being kicked out. But if you don't pay your rent... then they will start eviction proceedings to have you removed from the house. So, you know, there's all sorts of different things that go on here. And there's all sorts of different things that are involved. And so because of that, you can't just you're not just like, oh, hey, well, you know, we'll get rid of. Yeah. So because you're in your house, you're protected of being in your own house. And as long as you're paying on the mortgage, then you can stay in your own house. But you do own your own house. That's part of why you're responsible for the property taxes. You may not always pay the property taxes in person because part of what you pay to the mortgage company or for a lot of mortgages is the payment interest taxes and insurance. So you don't necessarily pay out of pocket each year for your homeowner's insurance. That's part of what the loan company, the mortgage company collects, and they put it in an escrow account. And then that escrow account will pay out to pay the property taxes or to pay for the homeowner's insurance. Yeah. That's built into the cost of the mortgage. And so part of the reason that the mortgage company wants you to pay those payments is because if you're not paying those payments and then the property taxes come due, well, they want to protect their interest in the loan, so they will pay those property taxes. And they're like, well, wait a minute. If we're laying out $5,000 for the property taxes and you're not paying us, How exactly is this a good deal for us? You get to live in the house. We're paying the property taxes so that the government doesn't sell your house out from underneath you or just come and take it from you. So we're supposed to get paid at least that $5,000, even if it's not everything else. We need to get paid at least that or another $4,000. We're going to pay for your homeowner's insurance. So that's another $3,000. Well, now we're out $8,000. And you're supposed to be paying us $2,000 a month. So we're supposed to be getting $24,000 a year. And of that $24,000, we'd pay $8,200. the property tax and for the homeowners insurance, but then we're also paying towards the loan. Okay, yeah, we can do that. So not only do we not have our $24,000, but we had to put out $8,000 of our own money because we don't want our, you know, if the house burns down, we want to get paid back by the insurance company. Or if you don't pay the property tax, then the government will sell your house to pay off the unpaid property taxes. So not only did we not get the $24,000 we expected, but now we have to put out $8,000 more. So basically you did not pay us 24,000. So we're already 24,000 behind. Now we're another 8,000. So now we're $32,000 that we were expecting to have here that we've had to come up with for you. And oddly enough, the loan companies aren't super keen on, uh, floating people at $24,000 to $32,000 a year when people don't pay. I mean, even Luke can tell you that that doesn't seem like a great thing, that most companies want to be like, oh, sure, we'll give you a loan and then just don't pay us. We'll come up with $8,000 a year to make sure that you're okay. And yeah, don't worry about paying us the $24,000 that we need. I'm sure that you'll make it up to us when you're good for it. Well, no, loan companies aren't super keen on that. They tend to want to be paid. And so they're going to protect their interest. And the thing is that if the property tax is unpaid and the government goes to sell the house, government's not going to try to get top dollar for the house. They're just going to get, I mean, if you've got a, say you've got a $300,000 house and there's $50,000 of property tax. Well, really, the government only wants their $50,000. So if the $300,000 house sells for $75,000 and that's the most they can get at an auction, they're like, cool, we get paid back. Awesome. So then there's $75,000. They take their $50,000. There's $25,000 left. If the loan company comes and says, hey, wait a minute, we need our $25,000. They're like, good, cool, here you go. But wait a minute, they owed $250,000 on the house. Where's our other $225,000? You're like, well, you've got to go talk to the homeowner. Well, the homeowner is no longer the homeowner because the house was sold. And now you're sitting there going, well, you know, but the government sold it for 75. And then the bank is the mortgage company is going to the individuals and saying, well, you owe us $225,000. Well, you know, but they took our house. We can't live there. I'm like, uh-huh. And if you told us about it, we would have sold the house and we would have tried to get close to the $300 it was worth so that we could get paid back. So the mortgage company does not want the house sold immediately. in such a manner that they would not get paid back. So they have a very vested interest in making sure that the house gets sold in such a manner that they get paid back. They don't want it to be sold at a government auction for less than it's worth. They don't want somebody to sell it or transfer it out to somebody else for less than it's worth because the mortgage company wants to be paid back. And they... And that's true while you're alive. It's also true when you pass away. So when a person passes away, the mortgage doesn't just disappear. That would be great if it did. You're like, ooh, okay. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to buy a house and then I'm going to transfer it to my employer. 95-year-old grandpa, and he's going to get a loan on it. And, you know, grandpa has, you know, 25 grandkids. So he's like, okay, well, then grandpa can have 25 different houses he owns with 25 different mortgages. And then when grandpa dies, all those mortgages will end and each of the grandchildren will now have their own house without any mortgage. It just kind of disappears. It's clean. It's great. That would be awesome. awesome for us as consumers. That would be atrocious and horrible for the mortgage companies. So most mortgage companies try not to do things that are horrible and atrocious for them. You know, it's just one of those things. A mortgage company exists to make money, not to transfer property to kids who figured out or grandkids who figured out how to get grandpa to own their property. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM, also heard on 100.7 FM. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, that's 720-394-6887. So because of the way that things work and the way that you want things to have things happen, you don't always have... The option of when you're trying to set up an estate plan, you have to account for, okay, so yes, what are we going to do with the assets? Okay, cool. So how much are those assets actually worth? Do we need to pay off a loan? Yes. Okay, so we've got to talk about it, but it's not the most pressing thing. Simply because you have a mortgage doesn't mean you can't do estate planning or you can't put a house in a trust or something like that. We have to pay attention to what's going on. There are certain type of trusts where if you put it in there, then it might trigger a due on sale clause, but that's like irrevocable asset protection trust where you're giving up your ownership interest in the house. And really, we only do that, or at least I mostly only do that for my elderly clients who are trying to protect money from Medicaid and long-term care costs. So we address that. We look at that. We go, okay, well, there might be some things that are going on here and some things that we need to deal with. And you can't always just ignore mortgages. You can't always just ignore ownership and ownership transfer interests and things like that. So there are certainly things that we need to look at and need to deal with. But for the most part, when somebody dies, that's going to trigger a due on transfer, due on sale type of clause. And that means when somebody dies, if there is a mortgage, the house will likely need to be sold to pay off the balance due on the mortgage. So, you know, in the case of my wife with reverse mortgages, I've talked with people and they're like, oh, well, if you have a reverse mortgage and it's still there and you die, then the bank just takes everything and nothing goes to your kids. I'm like, nah, the bank will take the value off. Of the reverse mortgage, but then the rest goes to the kids. So, you know, used to be that reverse mortgages were such that you had your first mortgage would pay out all of the lump sum. And then when you died, bank would take the entire house because they'd already paid out all the money on it. Well, many reverse mortgages now, you'll do a reverse mortgage, you get like a line of credit. So you're like, okay, I've got an $800,000 house. You get a $500,000 line of credit. Of that, you've spent $100,000 during your lifetime. Then you die, your kids go, they sell the house, the reverse mortgage company takes their $100,000 they have left, and then that other $700,000 goes to the kids or the heirs or whoever it is. Because reverse mortgages, years ago, decades ago, they would pay out the full amount of the value of the house, and then they could collect everything at the end. Well, that's not how reverse mortgages are set up now that got got in trouble. There is problems there, especially if you are you lend things when housing prices were high and then housing process prices fall and people would leave and then they couldn't recoup their money. And so again, the mortgage companies were like, well, hey, if this is going to be a product where we're going to make money, because that's what mortgage companies try to do is make money. They, they're like, well, we're not going to lend the full 100% of the value of the house, we're going to say the maximum we can lend is 60%, or 70%, or 80%, depending on the age of the person. And we're not going to just give one big lump sum of money and say, Hey, here you go. Here's your $700,000. Good luck. Have fun. Don't spend it all in one place. And then they'd go spend it all in one place. I mean, not that they would sometimes spending it all in one place was necessary. You know, if you have medical expenses and you're, you know, you say, don't spend it all in one place, but you're in a memory care facility at $20,000 a month. And $240,000, you're like, hey, well, after two years, I've spent all my $500,000. I didn't spend it all at one time, but I spent it all in one place on the memory care facility. Oh, wow. Well, and if you have that type of money to spend that you can use to spend to pay for your care, by all means, go for it. But you're a little bit careful. The rules have become a little bit more careful. And partially, it's to protect consumers so that they don't overspend and spend all their money and then end up with nothing. And then it's upside down. But also, partially, it's to protect the mortgage companies who want to make money. And so the rules are there. Do they benefit? Not every rule that's ever been set up is set up to benefit the consumer. Not every rule that's ever been set up is there to benefit the mortgage company, despite what some of the rhetoric may be that all the laws are to protect the giant corporations. I'm like. Now, both of the objectives are trying to be fulfilled there, protecting the consumers and protecting the mortgage company. Because you don't want mortgage companies to go out of business and disappear, and that creates chaos too. So when somebody dies, you're like, okay, we need to pay the mortgage off. All right, cool. We'll talk to the mortgage company. They don't want payoff right away. They're not like, oh, well, they died last Thursday. Well, you should have the house sold by Tuesday. What's going on with you? There's five days. What's going on? Real estate transactions don't take less than five days usually. There's time involved. There's money exchange involved. There's all those type of things. And you have to go and verify who the owner is and how much is owed and who it's owed to and all those type of things. Things take time. It's not quite as simple as, oh, hey, I'm going to go to the store and I would like to buy an apple. Oh, there's an apple. I will just buy it. That would be great. Except for how did the apple get there? How did the apple, you know, someone grew the apple and then the apple was harvested and then it was transported and then it was put on a store shelf and it can only be on a store shelf for so long before it rots. So you have to have the proper... Number of apples and all of these things that go into an apple being on a store shelf, we don't think about at all because it's all done behind the scenes. Real estate isn't necessarily all done behind the scenes. And when someone dies, neither is estate planning and estate administration. So we plan ahead for that. We have to pay attention to what is going to go on with real estate and when things need to be sold to make sure everybody gets paid, everybody gets taken care of, and so that the kids aren't stuck with their parents' debt or with their houses that they don't want. So thanks so much for listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey. I'll be back probably in a couple weeks, and we'll talk to you then. Thanks and bye.
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This episode unpacks the complex environment of stock trading in 2024, featuring expert analysis on small cap investments and big tech's influence on market trends. Engage with a detailed discussion about emerging sectors like quantum computing and autonomous vehicles, and listen in as Bill navigates the challenges faced by defense stocks amidst regulatory changes, offering valuable perspectives for every investor.
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Here is professional money manager, Bill Gunderson.
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And welcome to the Wednesday. It is the Wednesday 12-11-24 edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, and your personal analyst every day in the four-week program. Some of those have turned into subscriptions, obviously, by now, Barry, but I am your personal analyst throughout the day, laid down on the couch, and we'll go over your stock market portfolio problems. I'm here with Barry Kott, our chartered financial analyst. The Dow is only up 86. It was up a little more, but I think you can say that the market did like the CPI report this morning. That really shows up in the NASDAQ. Which is a little top heavy from a valuation point of view. It's up 263. It's just 50 points away from 20,000. Sell and go away when it hits that 20,000 level. Well, we take it a day at a time. 19,952 on the NASDAQ. The Russell 2000 is up three quarters of a percent. And the S&P kind of right in the middle there. The S&P is up a half a percent. Interest rates are steady. And we have the Bitcoin is down. Let's see, Bitcoin is up $740 right now. It can't get back above 100,000, but it remains strong for now. So welcome to the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. You know, Barry, I've been very impressed here the last two days with, you know, how important it is to really keep a pulse, your finger on the pulse of the market. It's very easy. We had the Trump victory. We had the big rally in the market, which really didn't let up much at all. And then all of a sudden, things start to flatten out, and you've got to start really analyzing every one of your holdings, what's going on in the market. We had a very stunning sell-off day on Monday in the AI stocks. That raises questions. It brings up that fear emotion. It brings up doubt. It's important to be able to analyze what's going on. I was thinking this morning as I was analyzing the market and sending out charts and whatnot, You know, I think I'm going to rename this service. Now, this is in addition to my main gig is managing real portfolios for people. But my side job, you know, I moonlight as your personal analyst during the day in the market, analyzing what is going on to keep you on track, to keep you from panicking. to keep you from doing something stupid. But I really like that. I mean, I think that's kind of what it boils down to. So anyways, we have a good day going on so far in the market, but we've had two rough days in the market. I spent most of yesterday drawing support lines. You know, those charts, you go up, that's that number two pattern, then you start to level off into a number three pattern. There's only four different patterns the stock can be in. And I would say 90% of the stocks right now are in that number three sideways pattern. Now it can either roll over from there and go down or it can break out to new highs. We've had six sideways patterns so far this year. in 2024 in the S&P 500 and in the Dow. And every time it's broken out to go on to new highs. But I mean, one of these number three patterns will turn into some kind of a top and you'll get a pretty healthy correction. That's why I always have to be on my toes and watching for these things. There's a lot of big news today. That was huge news yesterday in Google and Rigetti. And we're going to go over that today. It has to do with quantum computing. And there's big news in the autonomous cars. Now, these are a couple of avenues that are very much in favor right now. Yes, you still have AI. Autonomous, we're kind of looking for that breakthrough, which we have not seen yet. And we had a big player drop out today in GM, which has ramifications for Uber because they were teamed up with Uber. Now, Uber has a lot of other partnerships and a lot of other irons in the fire, but dropping out GM with their Cruze, is a little bit of a blow to Uber so far today. Moving down about 4%, I think. Yeah, you know, and it's breaking support. It's breaking support, too, which isn't good. And then yesterday you had the news, you know, Google has really been a sideways stock for a long, long time here. And all of a sudden they have news on two fronts. Well, I mean, obviously they're a major player. They're probably the biggest player now. In the car, the Robotaxi, along with Tesla and Uber. And so Google has good news there. But the really big news for Google yesterday was the breakthrough in quantum computing and the partnership with Rigetti. And that, man, Google broke out yesterday. After kind of a long sideways trend.
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Well, I mean, yeah, they've been the ones really been under fire by AI because, you know, all these AI models, you know, incorporate search to some sense. And they're, you know, kind of their dominance in the search field, right, has been, you know, kind of under pressure ever since, you know, Chad GPT was announced with Microsoft, what, more than a year and a half ago now. And so... They've got to have some successes, right? And this is one of those that seems to be getting right in the stock market.
SPEAKER 06 :
Never write those big tech companies off because they have so much firepower. And, you know, I mean, it's not been a very good performer. And it has the investigation, the antitrust by the U.S. government. Now, we'll see if the new administration follows through on that or whether they back off. But the new administration coming in has wagged their finger at big tech, mostly on the lines of free speech. In privacy.
SPEAKER 07 :
In privacy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, exactly. So there's still issues with them. And just when you think that Google a monopoly, Nvidia a monopoly, according to China, Amazon now is going to sell cars online. Amazon's the biggest monopoly we've ever seen in our lifetime. And yet I never hear any kind of wagging of the finger against Amazon, which seems kind of weird. So anyways, a lot of sideways charts yesterday. I started drawing in support lines, you know, where you're lying in the sand. You certainly don't want to give up. This is a two-edged sword, Barry, right now as a money manager. Number one, you have a lot of big gains, okay? This is the worst time to sell big gains. Why? Because you will have tax implications in come April. You'll be getting a bill from the taxman for capital gains. You're better off waiting until at least January, okay? and putting them off for another, what, 16 months. So that comes into play here. You don't want to do too much profit-taking unless you have to. On the other hand, you don't want to give up those gains. It's better to pay the capital gains tax than to give up the capital gains. So I have to walk a tightrope. Yes, I have to walk an extreme tightrope this time of year. I only want to – and I've had to sell a few. When they break that support, that's not good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, when it's been two successful back-to-back years in the market, at some point you're going to have some realized. The good news is a lot of them have been in the long-term nature over the last – you know uh two years since since since we've had this really run since particularly in big tech right since about the beginning of uh you know first quarter of 2023 of 2023 is when the nasdaq bottomed out when we called the bottom in the nasdaq and time to go in with guns blazing and we've been blazing ever since january 6th by the way yes somewhere in that uh yes exactly
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And at some point in time, now if you own a mutual fund, unfortunately, you're going to get those gains if you like it or not. Because they've been buying and selling in those mutual funds. Even if you bought the mutual fund yesterday. you're on the hook for the capital gains that they declare in December, which is not a good situation. So there's a lot of cross-currents right now. I let the charts really dictate what I do. I don't usually argue with the charts. We had one break down yesterday. I think that's the second one in the last month or so. And I had no choice but to let it go. And I've noticed the ones that I've let go, and I noticed the one I let go yesterday, is down more today. So you have to have some kind of a sell discipline, and that's where your personal analyst comes in. Lay down on the couch, and we'll try to get you through this latest little correction in the market. This is Bill Gunderson, along with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, story number one, we'll begin with the Consumer Price Index, which, you know, look, we still have some of the hottest inflation around. We're running at 2.7%, right? Is that where we came in? 2.7%, which we were expecting. That's in line. But, you know, I mean, you look at countries around the world, especially in Europe, and they're running more around 1%. We're at 2.7%. Shelter continues to be a problem. I think that's rent prices. And I think people are being forced to rent because, you know, it's hard right now to get a loan at over 7%. Who can afford those kind of payments with interest rates that high? And the other one I saw, Barry, that kind of stood out was air travel. which I think people are doing a lot more air travel. All you've got to do is go through Atlanta, go through Charlotte, go through Dallas, Chicago. You'll see the air travel that is kind of crazy right now, how many people are flying. Those are kind of the things that I picked out from the CPI. But, but. How does the market like it? Well, look at the market reaction so far. You've got the market up, so the market's okay. The market's okay with that CPI. And you could make the argument, what are the odds now of a rate cut in December after this CPI print? Probably, what, 80%, 90% that we'll get a quarter percent rate cut. Come next week, I believe, is the last Fed meeting of the year. Okay. Yeah, Barry dropped out here. Yeah, I'm here. It's okay. Oh, there he is.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think we got him back. But yeah, 96.2% chance of a Fed hike now. I mean, a Fed cut. So we had, as we mentioned a month ago, it was only a 65% chance of a quarter point cut. Yes. And then now after this report, it's jumped to 96%. Yeah, that pretty much cements it. And they'll cut one more time and then kind of sit back, I think, and see how things play out.
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They'll watch the Doge Boys, the Doge Boys, seeing how much they're able to cut from the budget. And I've got to mention that the Doge Boys have really sent a chill through the aerospace and defense industry, the defense stocks. And the stock we sold yesterday is defense-related, so that was the second strike against it. The fundamentals still look good. The growth still looked good. It dropped below support. We had a decent gain in it, up around 46%, I think, in the emerging growth portfolio. We later added it to our ultra-growth portfolio, and we had... a meager, I think a 2% or 3% loss in that portfolio on that position, and it continues to go down today. But you're fighting the sector. The sector, there's going to be, where do you think the Doge boys are going to find the biggest waste? Probably across the board, you know. But obviously all of these sweetheart deals with the defense contractors and the so-called, what do they call that, the military complex?
SPEAKER 07 :
out there and the neocons cutting sweetheart deals and taking a piece of the action yeah the pentagon has a big budget it peep you know the other piece is people i mean uh you know the federal government's if not the biggest a very big employer yes the biggest yes uh and so you know employees are another thing that they've talked about because it is a big cost
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I saw a picture of Elon entering the White House with this kid on his shoulders, and the kid was asking everybody, what do you do here? What do you do here? Wanting to know, hey, man, look, I want to know what you do here. Do you play video games all day? Look, you have to run it like private enterprise. I'm sorry. You can't promise people jobs for life and to just goof off at home or whatever. No, there has to be accountability. That's just a true principle there. Okay, CPI, we got through that. Now, okay, the other big story yesterday. I'm going through my charts like I always do. I've had an extraordinary number recently since the election of Donald Trump. Now it's starting to decrease, finally. It's starting to get it under control. We're not up around 1,300 charts anymore. We're down around 800, 900. That's still a lot. But I get to Google, okay, and I go, what in the world is going on? A massive breakout. Well, we've been talking about this investment that Amazon's been making in these quantum computing stocks. Well, quantum computing stocks surged Tuesday following Google's announcement on Monday of Willow, a potential revolutionary quantum chip. So, like I say, you can never count these big tech companies out because what are they going to come up with next? I mean, I doubt that NVIDIA is done. I would think that NVIDIA would be working on a quantum, a revolutionary quantum chip. And they've got the money to spend, and they've got the talent, right? They've got... kind of a monopoly on the talent to produce this kind of stuff. Rigetti Computing, which we talked about yesterday. You can thank Jeff Webster for coming up with that one. He knows kind of the story behind that stock. Led the pack skyward. Rigetti was up 45% today. And today, well, it's down today 2.4. It was up in the pre-market. I added it to my app today, RGTI. Rhymes with spaghetti, rigetti computing. But Google with their Willow chip was a big deal. And then the others, Quantum Computing, KUBT, D-Wave, QBTS. I saw one of them also announced a secondary offering today. The largest beneficiary of quantum computing will be undoubtedly health care and especially drug discovery. This is already being revolutionized by AI and paired with quantum computing. This field will be completely revolutionized. I'll have to ask. I have some connections in the drug industry and ask them about quantum computing and drug discovery. But look, I mean, there's a ton of biotechnology is a lot of math, putting all the numbers together. Now, I remember when they were mapping out, you know, the DNA of people and they made a major breakthrough there. Well, we need that breakthrough with the quantum for new drug discovery. Okay. And so the biotech sector, obviously, is still very much a viable sector to invest in, but you have to spread it out. All it takes is a drug going south.
SPEAKER 07 :
You named off one at the beginning of the week. It was down. Remember, it was down 80% or so, I believe.
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Okay, we'll take a little break here. When we come back, you don't normally see this. You've got somebody coming out with a target price. For the Russell 2000, you know the small caps seem to excite people. There's a small cap rally taking place, and it just has never followed through yet. For the most part, they're not very good quality companies. But here's a target price on the Russell 2000 for next year. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. Now, back to the second half of the show. Thank you.
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Because there's something in the air We've got to get together sooner or later
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. Let's just get a quick update here. Wow, NASDAQ up 271. S&P up 70 basis points. But the Dow seems to be the problem. The Dow has been going sideways now for about over a week, 10 days. Looks to be a little bit vulnerable right now. To me, the Dow's down 30 points right now. Okay, our next story would be the Russell 2000, which is currently trading at. Now, you know, I'm not an index investor, and I'm not an asset allocator. In the asset allocation world, which I want no part of, you know, you would have like an automatic, right, Barry, small cap stocks. Small cap U.S., 10%, 15%, would that be kind of a normal allocation with these models that we use these days?
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, they're going to hold. And the problem is it's so specific, right? It doesn't matter what's going on in the world, right? It's a percentage based on whatever they want.
SPEAKER 06 :
Your age and your risk tolerance. And the younger you are, they're going... But small caps have really underperformed the market.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, people have waited for small caps. I mean, really, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think small caps only outperformed, I think, two of maybe the last, I don't know, 15, 14 years or something. I saw a stat on it. I remember. We've been waiting.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah. Every time they start moving, here come the small caps. Look out. Now, I think about 2006, there was a year or so, maybe longer, the only sector in the market working was small cap value. And everybody plowed into small cap. And I was in small cap value back then. But now you, since then, I think you're about right there for the last 15 years. I'm just going to, just real quickly, and then we'll move on. But this is important because they talk about it a lot on CNBC and the other financial channels.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the outperformance, I think, has been like, I want to say it's around 7% or 8% over some of these time periods. I mean, it's a pretty significant divergence.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's significant. Okay, so I'm just going to pull up IWM, which is a very typical, it's Russell 2000 small cap ETF. If we compare, now this is the beauty of the app, it just takes seconds to do this. You've had the S&P 500, which is large cap stocks, 19.3% per year over the last 10 years, which is well above average. The average is more in the 11% to 12% area. Now, small caps during that same period of time, 8.6%. That's a big, big divergence. You compound that out over 10 years, that's huge.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you're taking more, by the way, and you're also taking more risk usually in the small cap space. So you're taking it from both ends. Exactly.
SPEAKER 06 :
But Jefferies has a target price. They think they're going to go up 13.5%. The only argument I can really make is they're cheaper. But, you know, you get what you pay for, my dad used to say. And you're not getting the quality and the growth that you're getting in the larger counterparts. So, yes, I find individual small cap stocks. Rigetti is a small cap stock right now. It's only $1.2 billion. We don't have any position in Rigetti. But, you know, it's a small cap. So that's what qualifies. Sometimes there are quality names, but it's on an individual basis. Oil stocks continue to look pretty rough, continue to be a very soft sector. Nothing I have an interest in right now. OPEC is cutting forecasts for next year in 2025. Not good for OPEC right now. And it seems to be centered in China as China's economy continues to struggle. Okay, now with the new guy coming in, the new administration, one of the big names is going to be Kahn. Let's see, what's his first name? Kahn is the new FTC chairman. I can't think of his first name. But he is going to be good. For deals taking place, Lena Kahn.
SPEAKER 07 :
Lena Kahn is the current one, right? That's the current one that's been pretty rough, yeah. It's the new one. She's going to be on the way out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ferguson. Andrew Ferguson is coming in to lead the U.S. Kahn was not very kind to, and you've seen it. I mean, Google going after Google, going after Microsoft, going after others.
SPEAKER 07 :
Didn't they? I think in the news today was the Kroger-Albertsons deal. Yes. I think now Albertsons suing Kroger because of the deal not working out, but really it's caused by the trade commission.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Well, Lena Kahn has had an anti-tech agenda. Which doesn't make a lot of sense. I mean, tech is where the innovation is coming from. I understand you can't let these guys get too big.
SPEAKER 07 :
She's like 35 years old, so probably fairly tech-oriented, I would imagine.
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Yeah, so, I mean, you have a little bit of this anti-capitalism type of stuff, like this shooter had, you know, against the UnitedHealthcare. I find it interesting that they're anti-capitalism, but they're eating at Starbucks, McDonald's, they're on Apple phones, they've got buds in their ears, but they're anti-capitalism. Okay, now, so anyways, look for the new administration to be friendlier. Now, that means a lot as you consider stocks that you want to invest in. I mean, this is going to really help companies like Microsoft and Amazon and Google. And Tesla obviously is going to get a little boost. Tesla has been hitting new highs ever since Trump was elected. All right, let's see what else we got going on. Oh, I find this to be interesting. You know, I wrote my opinion, and you've heard my opinion many times on Bitcoin. Microsoft shareholders vote no. on Bitcoin despite Michael Saylor's pitch. He came in and made a pitch to Microsoft shareholders. Of course, that's self-serving. I mean, he could give Microsoft to invest in Bitcoin with their reserves, their balance sheet. A balance sheet shows what you own. What you own and what you owe. That's simple. A balance sheet is very simple. And you subtract what you owe from what you own, and that's your equity, okay? Your home would be a perfect example of that. How much is your home worth? Subtract your mortgage. What's left over is your equity. And a company is no different. They own things and they also have bonds. They might have a short-term debt, credit lines, etc. And how do they invest their excess cash? I got to believe Microsoft has a ton of cash. on the sidelines, well, I mean, they put it to the shareholders. Should we invest in Bitcoin? And they voted no. So Bitcoin says no, or Microsoft says no to Bitcoin. And I just think it's fraught with, I think eventually it's a problem.
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It'd be interesting to know, you know, what the decision point was behind doing it, right? Is it, oh, you know, it's too volatile? I mean, because technically it's not, you know, not a great sake, you know, it's not going to be a substitute for cash, obviously. It's not going to be, you know, a lot of companies will hold, you know, short-term instruments, debt instruments, particularly of...
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you know the government or what have you and so it's not going to doesn't fit in that category either so it'd just be interesting to see why volatility is what they say did they yes microsoft board recommend well i mean the dollar barely moves you know bitcoin moves wildly the board recommended that shareholders reject the proposal pointing to crypto volatility And Michael Saylor is saying, well, you can increase share buybacks. You can raise your... Yeah, if it continues to go higher. I remember when it looked like housing prices would never stop going up in California. And a lot of the guys, the mortgage brokers were saying, hey, borrow against your home. Your home's going to continue to go up by 8%, 9% a year. You're getting the money for 3%, 4% a year. You're making money on the arbitrage. Well, guess what? All the short sales in 2009, 2010 is because people took equity out of their homes, got upside down to where they had negative equity and had to do a short sale. So things don't always keep going up, Michael Saylor. I'm not on board with the Bitcoin freight train, bandwagon, whatever you want to call it. Okay, Amazon joins Costco as a source for consumers to buy cars. You go into Costco, you can buy a car. I didn't know I could buy a car at Costco. Yes, and now on Amazon, just do a search. I don't know. I want to buy a Tesla and have it delivered tomorrow or by this Saturday at least. So anyways, if ever there was a monopoly, it's Amazon. And I don't think they're investing in Bitcoin either. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, let's have a little fun and go into these indexes and see. Now, the Dow is down. UnitedHealthcare down 4.8%. Isn't that surprising that one person, one event? Well, it involved the CEO, but there seems to be a backlash against UnitedHealthcare. Obviously, murdering the CEO should not be part of that backlash, but there seems to be a lot of people that have had bad experiences with the healthcare stocks, and in particular, UnitedHealthcare, Barry.
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Oh, I had somebody close to me who said that they had UnitedHealth through their employer years ago and have had obviously different insurance companies over the years and said that it was pretty much one of the worst experiences that they've had with insurance. We all know insurance. You know, no one's ever happy with insurance. It's just if it doesn't, you know, what kind of headache does it cause, right, is really how we judge it. So it never gets ten stars, you know what I mean? No, no.
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Well, I listened to two different people that, you know, I listened to Ben Shapiro's take on it last night. I listened to Charlie Kirk's take on it last night, and they came up with the same conclusion I did. I think there's something. He came home from Hawaii. He had back surgery. He had a bad back. I mean, he had a terrible surgery. putting in pins and everything. And they said he was never the same. He started taking magic mushroom drugs, psychedelics, which is not a good thing. And it says he totally changed. He dropped out. Nobody could get in touch with him. I think there's a big connection there myself with that, and I have good company there. Ben Shapiro agreed with me, and so did Charlie Kirk on those magic mushrooms, which is kind of a trend right now, trying to get magic mushroom pills.
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There's names that pop up on the app. I look at what do they invest in, and I was like, oh, okay.
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There's biotechs that are syllabus. Right. Yeah, I don't know if the Grateful Dead has anything to do with it. Okay, now, the other ones here in the Dow. So it's UnitedHealthcare dragging down the Dow. Salesforce, on the other hand, the GoGo stock. Momentum is back in style today. Momentum was really out of style Monday and pretty much yesterday. which we definitely lean more towards the momentum. Momentum is also equivalent with high growth, okay? You've got the momentum back in style today. Salesforce is up 3.1. Salesforce also pays a dividend today. I've considered it many times for our dividend and growth portfolio. Amazon is up 2.4. It's not a bad AI play.
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It's not a bad AI play from a software standpoint, and they're big enough to where they don't have to get it perfect because they're big. They can always buy it.
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And, of course, Amazon, which has their own AI chip now, is up 2.4% today. NVIDIA is up 1%. I sent out a chart on NVIDIA this morning. It is holding its support level so far, barely. It's trading in this range, and right now it's down at the bottom of its range. And we call that an undecided chart. It's undecided right now. You cannot predict what it's going to do until it makes that next move, that catalyst. Okay, now let's take a look at the S&P 500 here. Super microcomputer down 8.3%. You know, just when you think it's safe to go back in the water, which I don't think it is. Something else comes along. Even though everything has shown their own internal audits, I think they've been cleared by the SEC. The stock's down 8.3% today. It's just one not to go near. And one of the disasters of the year, Walgreens Boots Alliance, which has kicked out of the Dow. It's gone the way of Intel. It's down to $8.3 billion now. It was in the Dow not too long ago. It was replaced by Amazon. And Walgreens is down 6.7 today. Macy's, some would say, a dying stock. It's now a $4.4 billion company. I mean, that's minuscule. You put that up against Amazon? The kind of damage, the Amazonization of the shopping mall and America's landscape. And then UnitedHealthcare is down 4.8%. Look at these health care stocks. They've just been murdered. Cigna is down 4.7. That's an equivalent. Oh, man, it is breaking down. That's an ugly, ugly chart. I fear that this is going to bring back the call for a single payer, but I don't think the Trump administration would ever go down that road. But these health care insurers seem to be kind of in trouble right now. And you can throw CVS into that category too. CVS, you know, bought out Aetna a long time ago, several years ago. So that's a terrible sector to be in right now. That's why sector analysis. One of the things in the Best Stocks Now app is the ranking of the sectors. You can't be in these bad sectors. Health care is probably the worst. The defense stocks now are in that list of bad sectors. And I would also put the defense. Oh, the oil and gas stocks are in that also. Now on the upside in the S&P. It's always more fun to look at the upside. Alphabet. This stock is blowing up to the upside. It has a catalyst, you see. breaking out to a new all-time high right now, 192.64. Alphabet is now a $2.35 billion company. This is on two things. They've got a double whammy going on today and yesterday. Yesterday was the breakout. Number one, the quantum computing chip, what was it called, Willow? And number two, GM dropping out of the robo-taxi race, really leaving it down to three now. Aurora Innovations, Waymo is by far number one. And not Uber. Uber is actually not. They're out of the race. Uber would just be a recipient. And Tesla. So it's down to three, really, in that race for that self-driving car. And look at Google breaking out today. Man, I looked at it yesterday. I thought, this is the breakout. But it was late in the day, and I didn't have time to put together a buy. which takes a little bit of time. Okay, we're out of time. See how time flies? Hire me as your personal analyst. Get free four weeks. You follow Gunderson during the day, or you say, I don't have time for that. You be Gunderson Capital Management. We want you looking after our portfolios. 855-611-BEST or GundersonCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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In this episode, we revisit a poignant interview with Colonel Bill Rutledge on the legacy of John Heisman, connecting the historical significance with today’s climate surrounding college football. Additionally, Kim sheds light on Colorado's recent educational controversies and their implications for parental rights, all while proposing the critical question of where the balance lies between freedom and control. Join us to learn, reflect, and engage with ideas that shape our world.
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We actually, in this first hour, are going to play something that we recorded last year right around this time with Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force. He's 95 years young. And Alan Thomas was in studio and stayed in for the interview as well because it's about John Heisman, and the Heisman Trophy will be awarded this Saturday to a college football player. Colonel Rutledge said, you know, it's important that we know about this guy. And so we had recorded this last year, and we thought, well, let's just go ahead and dust that off. And so we will be broadcasting that here in the first hour. Second hour, Natalie Minton, who is with the Tabor Foundation, and Brandon Wark, who is the founder of Free State Colorado, really keep an eye on what is happening regarding taxes here. here in colorado and so i wanted to talk with them and get their read on this recent colorado special session which uh ostensibly was to reduce our massive property tax increases but all kinds of other stuff actually happened and so we'll chat with them about that. And so you won't want to miss that. And of course, Karen Levine, great sponsor of the show, will get an update regarding real estate here in Colorado as well. Thank you to Laramie Energy and Karis Oil and Gas for their sponsorship of the show. And also Hooters Restaurants is a great sponsor of the show as well. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. and lunch specials Monday through Friday. And Wednesdays are Wings Day. Buy 20 wings. Get an additional 10 for free. That's for to-go or to dine in. And how I got to know them, it's such an important story as we see what's happening in our country. regarding overreaching government, PBIs, and their agendas. And that's why this story is so important. And it's a story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and PBIs who are trying to exert power way beyond their control. And so you don't want to Don't want to miss that. Today is, oh, let's get, well, it's all related. Our word of the day, let's get over to it, is infamy. And this day, as FDR said, will live on in infamy because this is the day that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, Oahu, Hawaii. And that was December 7th, 1941. And so the word infamy, it's spelled I-N-F-A-M-Y, and it is a noun. And it said it could be a very bad reputation or notoriety as achieved infamy as the central figure in the scandal. The condition of being infamous or disgrace, a name that will live in infamy, and an evil or criminal act that is publicly known. And again, FDR the next day gave his famous, it's called his infamy speech that December 7th, 1941 will live on in infamy. So again, this was the attack on Pearl Harbor. and wanted to give you a little more history on that in just a moment. I went to Chester W. Nimitz for our quote of the day. He was born in 1885. He died in 1966. He was a fleet admiral in the United States Navy, and he played a major role in the naval history of World War II as commander-in-chief for the U.S. Pacific Fleet, and commander-in-chief for the Pacific Ocean areas, commanding Allied air, land, and sea forces during World War II. And he said the U.S.' 's major strength factor and weapon is its economy. If you cripple it, you cripple the military. And I thought, this is so appropriate for what we see is happening right now in 2023 America and our world. With the big meeting for the COP28 that is meeting in Dubai right now, 80,000 people are there. And they will be pushed out as acolytes to push this agenda of basically will be crippling the United States economy. And Western Europe has already been a little bit busy doing that. But just think about that. Eighty thousand acolytes. You put Bloomberg's money behind that. You put all this big money, government money that goes to all these different colleges and universities for research projects to many times. The research actually gets to the predetermined. explanation on whatever the issue it is. And we see that actually what this is going to do is to cripple the U.S. economy. And here you have Chester Nimitz that says our great strength is and our weapon is our economy. And of course, we do see what's happening with our military as well as recruitment numbers are at pretty close to record lows, if not record lows. And so we see over here trying to cripple the economy. Our military is being weakened because of public policy. And one has to ask, ask what is going on? But I let's see what let's just do these two quick headlines. And then I will I want to go back to Pearl Harbor. But John Kerry, he, let's see, this was December 5th from Fox Business. John Kerry pledges to slash emissions from air conditioning units and refrigerators to fight climate change. And he is, his current title is U.S. Special Envoy for Climate. And he made this commitment at the COP28, which is the annual United Nations Climate Change Summit. And then back in 2015, I had never heard this, but this was also, there was a lot of different news sources that you could find this. And I pulled this from the Free Beacon that Kerry says air conditioners, again, when was this? Let me get to the date, hopefully. July 22, 2016. John Kerry says air conditioners are as big a threat as ISIS. So when John Kerry talks about climate change and that things are going to get warmer, well, they actually are for Americans. Because air conditioning was something, once it became prevalent, the U.S. economy became even more efficient because in the warmer states, we could actually work better. During the day when it was was hot because of air conditioning. And so it became we became more effective and also more comfortable. And you're going to see from a regulation standpoint, John Kerry coming after our air conditioners. I was speaking yesterday with someone I would say who's more apolitical. And my friend said, now that's where I'm going to use the Second Amendment. If they come after my air conditioner, I'm going to say no. And he said, I'll give up my TV before I will give up my air conditioner. But we do have John Kerry coming after your air conditioner. And so again, yes, it is going to get warmer, but I don't think it's because of man-made climate change. Well, I guess this would be man-made climate change as well because this is a policy thing. So anyway, that's what he's saying over in Dubai right now, and I'm pretty sure... He didn't get there by boat, and even if he got there by boat, it would not have been sailboat. It would have been boats and planes that are fueled by oil and gas. And, of course, the boats and planes and all that have all kinds of products from derivatives from petroleum as well. But many of you I know know the history of Pearl Harbor, but I just wanted to make sure that we talked about it again. And it was 1941, and many people do not know that immediately... The Japanese were also attacking the Philippines. And so anyway, it says the this is from history.com says the attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise. But Japan and the United States have been edging toward war for decades. The United States was particularly unhappy with Japan's increasingly belligerent attitude toward China. and the Japanese government believed that the only way to solve its economic and demographic problems was to expand into its neighbor's territory and take over its import market. To this end, Japan declared war on China in 1937, resulting in the Nanking Massacre and other atrocities. American officials responded to this aggression with a battery of economic sanctions and trade embargoes, and they reasoned that without access to money and goods, especially essential supplies like oil, Japan would have to rein in its expansionism. Instead, the sanctions made the Japanese more determined to stand their ground, and during months of negotiations between Tokyo and Washington, D.C., neither side would budge. It seemed the war was all but inevitable. So Pearl Harbor is located near the center of the Pacific Ocean, roughly about 2,000 miles from the U.S. mainland and about 4,000 miles from Japan. And no one really believed that the Japanese would start a war with an attack on the distant islands of Hawaii. Additionally, American intelligence officials were confident that any Japanese attack would take place in one of the relatively nearby European colonies in the South Pacific, for example, the Dutch East Indies, Singapore, or Indochina. Because American military leaders were not expecting attacks so close to the home, the naval facilities at Pearl Harbor were relatively undefended. Almost the entire Pacific fleet was moored around Ford Island in the harbor, and hundreds of airplanes were squeezed onto adjacent airfields. And to the Japanese, Pearl Harbor was an irresistibly easy target. And the Japanese plan was simple, destroy the Pacific fleet. That way the Americans would not be able to fight back as Japan's armed forces spread across the South Pacific. So on December 7th, after months of planning and practice, the Japanese launched their attack. And about 8 a.m., the Japanese planes filled the sky over Pearl Harbor. Bombs and bullets rained onto the vessels moored below. At 8.10 a.m., an 1,800-pound bomb smashed through the deck of the battleship of USS Arizona and landed in her forward munition magazine. The ship exploded and sank with more than 1,000 men trapped inside. Next, torpedoes pierced the shell of the battleship of the USS Oklahoma, and with 400 sailors aboard, the Oklahoma lost her balance, rolled onto her side, and slipped underwater. And actually, on the Oklahoma is where a cousin of my father's, my father was on the Oklahoma and died there. And actually, we, gosh, within the last couple of years, the Navy died. had identified his remains, and his remains were brought back to Mound City, Missouri, and buried there. And many of my cousins and I were there for that. And it's a good moment now to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. And one of the great things that they're doing as they're raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial is you can buy a brick to honor your loved one's military service. And that will be on one of the pathways of service. But you'll get a beautiful certificate, which is a lovely gift here as we're in Hanukkah season and Christmas season. And I actually purchased a brick for my father to honor his military service. And he just passed on last week. But I'd given him that as a gift. It was one of the best gifts I'd ever given him. And then I also purchased a brick to honor my father's cousin who died on the Oklahoma. But continuing on. Oh, again, to get more information, go to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And it says less than two hours, the surprise attack was over, and every battleship in Pearl Harbor, the Arizona, Oklahoma, California, West Virginia, Utah, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, and Nevada had sustained significant damage. But even though the attack crippled or destroyed nearly 20 American ships and more than 300 airplanes, dry docks and airfields were likewise destroyed. More importantly, more than 2,000 people died, about 2,400. But the Japanese had failed to cripple the Pacific Fleet. By the 1940s, battleships were no longer the most important naval vessel. Aircraft carriers were. And as it happened, all of the Pacific Fleet's carriers were away from the base on December 7. Some had returned to the mainland, and others were delivering planes to troops on Midway and Wake Islands. Moreover, the Pearl Harbor assault had left the base's most vital onshore facilities, the oil storage depots, the repair shop shipyards, and submarine docks intact. As a result, the U.S. Navy was able to rebound relatively quickly from the attack. So again, December 7th, 1941 is a day, as FDR said, that will live on in infamy. And so I wanted to bring us up to our history regarding that. Let's see just a couple of other things. This is pretty unbelievable, and this is all over the news. that right here from, again, can you believe it? When I say Colorado is at the tip of the spear, I'm not kidding. And this was reported in many different news entities, but this is from Fox News where I pulled this headline. It says, Dad felt helpless as daughter hid in bathroom after being forced to share a bed with a boy, with a biological male. And it says Christian parents from Colorado have complained that their 11-year-old daughter's school district allegedly forced her to share a bed with a biological male on an overnight trip. The dad told Fox News Digital in an interview that he felt helpless to protect his daughter from the situation. says the parents joe and serena wales said they discovered that jefferson county public schools assigned their daughter to share a room with a boy who identifies as a girl without not notifying them or informing their daughter the christian legal group alliance defending freedom sent a demand letter to jcps on behalf of the colorado parents alleging that its policy of hiding information from parents and lying to students is unconstitutional And it was a bit of a shock. It was a helpless feeling, said Joe Wales. Here I am. She was calling me and texting me from the bathroom because she didn't want the other kids to overhear what she was saying. So it's a pretty helpless feeling when your daughter is hiding in the bathroom. She's trying to convey a message to you. Eleven years old, remember, my friends, and you're 2,000 miles away. And the mom happened to have been on a trip and was able to intervene in the situation. You wonder where actually where were the teachers on this. And again, when I talk about us being at the tip of the spear here in Colorado, we truly, truly are. I did want to mention also the Center for American Values. Another great gift is their great little quote book, and it's quotes from many of our Medal of Honor recipients. And I would highly recommend a trip down to the Center for American Values. There are portraits of valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients. is so inspiring. And so I would recommend that you check that out as well. The Center for American Values is nonpolitical and it's nonpartisan. It's honoring our Medal of Honor recipients and creating these great educational programs that will help continue to instill in us these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism and provide these educational resources so that we can teach those things to our children as well. And I guess going back to this Jefferson County thing, it's important that we as parents, community members, grandparents understand exactly what is going on. That's why also check out artclubmovie.com. That's Art Club Movie. That is the story of Erin Lee, John Lee, and their family. And again, we need to refer to those that are being referred to as transgender as boys or men that are wanting to dress up as women. or be women, but they are biological males. They are males, boys, and men. We need to refer to them as such. And again, I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy, Karis Oil and Gas for their gold sponsorship of the show, and also the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. 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Okay, let's change gears here. We have Colonel Bill Rutledge on, retired United States Air Force, and he's become a great friend, and he's an amazing researcher, and so many life experiences. Colonel Rutledge, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Kim.
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Okay, Colonel Rutledge, let's just jump right in here. You had mentioned John Heisman to me, and you said he was a classic Renaissance man. And tomorrow evening at the Downtown Athletic Club in Manhattan, the Heisman Trophy will be awarded. And this is one of the greatest honors for a college football player. But you said John Heisman was a remarkable man. So tell us a little bit about him, Colonel Rutledge.
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Well, John Heisman, first of all, he was born with, he was the first of three, well, he was one of three brothers. And his parents both were immigrants from Germany. And they came over just before the Civil War. And he was born in 1869 in Cleveland. And his father was a barrel maker. And because of that, they moved to Titusville, Pennsylvania. And the reason for their move was in 1859, the first oil well in the world was drilled in Titusville, Pennsylvania. And his father was a barrel maker. So he went there to help work in that field. And he really formed a company and expanded and became very prosperous. He had customers like... John Rockefeller and a few others that we have come to know in the investment field. So he was very successful. But the son, John, John was, first of all, he was very smart. He was not only was he intellectual, but he was very gregarious. He was a great orator. He was an excellent writer. He did so many things as he was growing up. He also loved sports. And at the time, he and his brothers played what became American football, but really it was more like rugby in England. We went through transitions. Rugby started in England in the 1820s, but rugby was a transition from soccer. So it went soccer to rugby and then later to American football. So he was a person... in the transitional period, so that some of the features of rugby were there, but also some of the features which we see today. So he was an innovator, and he was very successful in high school, and when he was finishing, he finished number two in his class academically, and he gave one of the two addresses at graduation, and he knew he was going on to college, And his father wanted him to become a lawyer. And so their first choice for school was that he should go to Brown University, which he did. And he went to Brown for two years. And Brown did not have a football team, so he played in a club sport. And after two years, he decided to make the transfer to the University of Pennsylvania that had a good law school. So he went to the University of Pennsylvania and became a student and decided to play on their football team. Now, he was like about 150 pounds, but he actually played center on the football team. In those days, the coach, if they had a coach, because it was very amateurish, they would invite students to come out and play football. And so it was open to anyone, but he loved the sport. So This got him into the academic community, and there was so much to follow on. So I need for you to be inquisitive about where he went from there, because there are a lot of things about him.
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Well, it's very fascinating, and you sent over some notes regarding this, and you said that he was nearly blinded. So what happened there?
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Yes. Well, when he was a senior... They played a game in Madison Square Garden. And the Madison Square Garden in that era, they had a dirt floor. And they also had some of the pioneer electric lighting. And it was not as good as today. And what happened was that they lowered some of their lights to work on them. And then with all this dirt and these rays from the lights and things, In this game that they were playing, by the time the game was over, he could hardly see. And for several days thereafter, there was a concern that he might even go blind. But nevertheless, his vision was severely obstructed. Now, he still had another semester to go to finish up his academic program. So what he did, he couldn't read his law books. So he had a roommate that would read in the evening, would read the lessons to him. And then he would recite those in class. Well, he wasn't able to take a written exam. So what he did, he persuaded his professors that he should be given permission to answer all the questions orally. And this is what they did. It was a complete change from normal procedure. But nevertheless, he was able to graduate and get his degree because he went in for oral presentation like you do for applying for a Ph.D. in college where you do the writtens and the orals. And he was a unique man. He was that smart and well-received by his professors. So he finished, got his degree.
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Absolutely fascinating. So, Colonel Rutledge, let's go to break. We're talking about John Heisman, for whom the Heisman Trophy is named. And, Colonel Rutledge, when you and I were talking in preparation for this, you said that there was a Heisman Trophy winner, what, back in the 60s or 70s, that said he didn't know anything about John Heisman, but he had received the trophy, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that's true. But he was speaking really for probably many of the people who had received it before him. and some that received it later. Just because you get a trophy and it's got a person's name on it, that doesn't mean you know anything about him. So he brought up the logical question. And as I read the book that was written by John Eichmann's nephew, it became apparent that this was a very comprehensive band with many talents, and it's very unfortunate that the recipients of the award At that time, we're not knowledgeable. Now, more people know more about it. They've had a couple of books written about him. But nevertheless, I would say that tomorrow evening, the vast majority of those who are going to be at the award dinner won't know anything much about John Eichmann.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's why they should listen to the Kim Munson Show, Colonel Rutledge.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's correct.
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Okay, we're going to go to break. On the line with us is Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force, and in studio is Alan Thomas. We've got producer Luke behind the boards. We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. I'm Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly newsletter there. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And our listener, Wade, I know that he, I think he worked the graveyard shift and he called in with a great question in the first hour. Hopefully, if he's still available, we'd love to have you call in at about 747-748. That's 303-477-748. 5600. And Alan Thomas, your excellent essay, The Moral Gaslighting of America, we'll roll that out in the newsletter this weekend. And Alan, we have on the line with us Lieutenant Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force, 94 years old. And he's a man with so much intellectual curiosity that I learned so much from him. Did you know this about John Heisman, Alan?
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You know, I didn't. And I'm a huge college football fan, you know, Boomer Sooner. And, you know, it's absolutely right. I know more about our Heisman winners here in the past couple of years than I knew about John Heisman. So this has been excellent learning all of this about this remarkable man.
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And with that Colonel Rutledge, John Heisman, he has passed out of law school, but he has this love for football. So what happens after that, Colonel Rutledge?
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Well, John, since he couldn't see very good, and he'd just gotten his degree, he still loved football, and he was trying to find a summer job, and it became apparent that He might have problems even practicing law because he still was having problems reading. So he saw an advertisement at Oberlin.
SPEAKER 19 :
Whoops, I think we lost him, Luke. I think you'll need to try to get him back. It was sounding like we were having some challenges there. So I'm going to give a little bit of information while we're getting Colonel Rutledge back on the line. In his notes that he sent over, he said that he learned that Oberlin needed a football coach. And it was no salary, little budget for equipment, and that would be for the 1892-93 year. Can you believe that? Man. And so it looks like he probably was hired as the football coach there. And then he had a number of different colleges that he was the coach at. And in my research, he was a football coach, I think, for over 37 years at a variety of different schools. But that was back when they didn't have the equipment that they have these days, Alan.
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Right, yeah, before innovation took over. But, you know, that just... That story is so amazing just to pursue your passions. Right. And, you know, sometimes God throws a curveball at you and you need to change your entire career choice because of one event. But I mean, what a what a remarkable story.
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Well, and following our passion, that's one thing they say to kids. But you need to make sure that you also are able to fund your passions, not with other people's money. So if you can't make a living with your passion, it may have to be your hobby until you get to it. get to that point. Okay, we've got Colonel Rutledge back on the line. So Colonel Rutledge, John Heisman, and I mentioned this, is at Oberlin as a football coach, no salary, little budget for equipment. That was 1892-93. What happens after that?
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Well, after that, he had an opportunity to move to a school that was nearby that actually had a little budget, and they were going to employ him. So he did. And When he moved, he moved over, and he started coaching. Now he's 23 years old. And he meets a young lady there named Edith Cole. So he and Edith become engaged, and everything looks fine. But Edith is diagnosed with tuberculosis. So Edith refused to marry because she was afraid that she would not survive. So she moved to Denver. And he was so upset that he decided to leave Buck Cowell, which was a small school in Ohio. And so he went south, and he found a job at Auburn. So he coached at Auburn for a few years. Then he moved over to Clemson, and he was at Clemson for a few years. While he was at Clemson, he would play Georgia Tech. Well, he would beat Georgia Tech. So Georgia Tech decided the best solution was is that we will hire him from Clemson and he will become our coach. So he became the coach at Georgia Tech for the next 17 years. And while he was at Georgia Tech, he won a national championship. And they set an all-time record in 1916. They played Cumberland College from Tennessee. They had played them in baseball and Cumberland had beat Georgia Tech. So Heisman was very anxious to set the record straight, so he played him in football, and he set an all-time record, which still stands. Georgia Tech, 222 points to nothing for Cumberland. Ouch. So this was not... One of the funny things happened. During the game, it was, say, late in the fourth quarter, the coach looked around and he saw a man sitting on his bench, and he He was in a uniform, but it wasn't from Georgia Tech. It was from Cumberland. And he talked to the young man. He said, what are you doing here? And he said, well, if I go back over there, they're going to put me back in the game. And he said, I'm going to get hurt. And so the coach said, okay, you sit on our bench and just put this towel over your head. And he did, and he stayed there the rest of the game. So it was one of those humorous situations. But while he was at Georgia Tech, he also had the opportunity to meet Bobby Jones. Now, for your sports fans, they know that Bobby Jones is one of the all-time greats. He was a graduate of Georgia Tech, so he loved the sport of football also. So they got to know one another, and Bobby Jones decided to teach Heisman how to play golf. So it's phenomenal that you had a man who later became the number one golfer in the world teaching Heisman how to play golf. And he actually bought the first set of golf clubs for Heisman when they were both in Atlanta. And so in those days, coaches didn't make enough money to survive during the whole year. So Heisman also was an actor He was a producer, a director. So each summer, he would be very active in the theater. And he met a lady that was also an actress. And they were married and were married for a few years. But after he'd been at Tech for a long time, and she was very busy and he was busy, there was a mutual agreement that they would be separated. So they were. And they became divorced. And she wanted to stay in Atlanta. So because of this, he decided to go back to his original source. And he went back to the University of Pennsylvania. And he was coaching there. And while he was there, one day they were having practice. And somebody was yelling out in the opposite area. And it was bothering. It was interrupting things. So Heisman went over to see who it was. It was a young lady, and she was giving him a hard time. As he got closer, he saw it was Edith Cole, the lady that he had thought had died from tuberculosis 20 years ago. And we keep getting an interruption here. Nevertheless, within a few months, he and Edith again renewed their love affair, and they were married. And they lived the rest of his life as a married couple. So after they were married and he was at Tech for so many years, he decided to make some other changes. So he actually went to other schools. He coached at two or three other schools along the way. And he also wrote a lot. While he was at Georgia Tech, he wrote for the Atlanta Constitution and also for the Atlanta Journal. And this was part of his contract. So after 37 years, and he's now about 60 years old, he decided he wanted to go to New York and just write. So he went to New York City, and he wrote for Collier's Magazine and Liberty Magazine. And there was an opening. A new position was established by the downtown... Athletic Club, and they wanted to have an athletic director. So he applied for the job, and one of the strongest recommendations was a letter from Bobby Jones, Bobby Jones' father. So he got the job, and in 1934, the club decided they wanted to give an award for the most outstanding young man in college football. Heisman originally opposed this. He said, there are so many fine players. I just don't see how we could do this. So they discussed it on and off for several months. Finally, they agreed they would make an award, and the first award would be made in December of 1935. So they did. Now, it was not called a Heisman Trophy then. It was just going to be the Downtown Athletic Club Trophy. So they did. They had the award. The first person who got it was a young man named Jay Berwanger from the University of Chicago. He was a running back, extremely fine. So the award was presented. Then during the next year, now we're talking about 1936, in the fall, Heisman went out to play golf, and he had a cough. And his friend said, you need to go see the doctor. So he did. And it turned out he had pneumonia. And in those days, there were no antibiotics. Nothing really much could be done. So he went home, and his wife was treating and doing the best she could. But the long and the short of it was that in early October, he died from pneumonia. And this is 1936. Right after he had died. the members of the downtown athletic club conferred and they said, we need to change our trophy. We need to name it for George Heisman.
SPEAKER 19 :
Or John Heisman.
SPEAKER 09 :
John Heisman. And they did. So the next award made in December of that year was the Heisman Trophy. And they called it the Heisman Memorial Trophy at the time. They later just dropped the term Memorial Trophy. But that was how it came about. And one of the ironies of this whole thing was ironic. In 1930, when Bobby Jones wrote that recommendation for him, that was the year when Bobby Jones won all of the four major tournaments, the U.S. Amateur, the U.S. Open, the British Amateur, and the British Open. And the other correlation between them was that the Heisman Trophy came to be the most sought-after trophy ever. in the world of sports in america and the masters tournament in golf is the most coveted championship in the world of golf and the connection between him is george heisman and bobby jones because bobby jones in nineteen thirty four built the more more built the golf course at augusta gradually changed the name within the next two years to the masters It is now everyone thinks that the golf professional season starts the first week in April in Augusta, Georgia. And it doesn't.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, my gosh. This has just been fascinating, Colonel Rutledge. Thank you so much for reaching out and talking about this. I greatly appreciate it. And the other thing you said, I mean, these two remarkable athletes, but the innovations of John Heisman were the lateral pass, the forward pass, scoreboard, standardized field, hike, safer uniform equipment, numbers on jerseys, game quarters, transition of the shape of the football from rugby. My gosh, what an innovator. Colonel Rutledge, thank you so much for sharing this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Listen, it's been fun doing it because I had read a book of Heisman years ago. But this book that I more recently read was written by his nephew who had access to all of Heisman's records and all of his writings. And he was a prolific writer so that he included so much in here. it is very difficult well we could not conceivably covered in a short time all of his accomplishments and what he contributed to the sport because he was an innovator and we know about other people in football and we know about Pop Warner and Alamus Alonzo Stagg Walter Camp and Newt Rockne of course which was a great coach at Notre Dame but he was a peer with these people a contemporary. They were all in the same era. And actually, it was my good fortune at one time to go to the University of Chicago and see Stagg Field. And there was another small thing. Right there at Stagg Field is where they first cracked the first atom right under the bleachers where the football team used to play. So there are a lot of spinoffs on some of these people.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, fascinating, Colonel Rutledge. And you will be on here again very soon, and we're going to be talking about the Battle of Wake Island. So, Colonel Rutledge, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you. It's always a pleasure.
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And have a great day. So we're going to go to break. And when we come back, I would love to hear from you. I'm hoping we hear back from Wade, one of our listeners, 303-477-5600. Ellen Thomas is in the studio. I want to give a shout-out to the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are working to raise money to remodel the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax. My friends, it's important to know these stories, to remember these stories, and to honor these stories. And you can help them by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We will be right back.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. We are live now. Joe and I, Joe and I have been working together for 14 months, and he has been able to read my mind every day for 14 months. But yesterday, we actually had three other recordings, a lot of things going on, and we got our wires crossed. So what happened was we just went in to broadcast the interview with Colonel Rutledge yesterday. And so we got a little wonky on that, Joe.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I don't know what happened. For the first time, there's a first time for everything, I guess.
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Well, you normally read my mind, but a great interview with Colonel Rutledge. And he is so excited about this Travis Hunter, who is a CU Buff graduate. And he is the favorite to win the Heisman Trophy. So this is from Sports Illustrated. And it says, Colorado Buffalo star Travis Hunter is one of the favorites to capture the Heisman Trophy when it's awarded this Saturday, December 14th. Hunter has made a name for himself in the college game as one of the most versatile players the sport has seen in decades. Hunter is not only one of the top wide receivers in the country, but he's one of the top cornerbacks in the sport as well. His excellence on both sides of the football has him very high on NFL draft boards heading into next April, where he is projected to be a top five pick. The soon-to-be two-time All-American was just named the Big 12 Conference Player of the Year after catching 92 passes for 1,152 yards and 14 touchdowns as a wide receiver while also totaling 21 total tackles on defense and four interceptions. Hunter isn't sure where he would be without his head coach, Deion Sanders, who recruited him to play at Jackson State as a five-star prospect before transferring to Colorado once Sanders made the jump to the FBS. He says, when I first talked to him, I was like, I don't care who he is. I don't want to go there. Hunter said of Sanders recruiting him to Jackson State on the pivot. But as I talked to him more, it was like, oh, this might be the place I want to go. He's more than just a coach. He's a father, Hunter said. Then Hunter said he had one message for Sanders before their final game together in the Alamo Bowl against BYU on December 28th. He says, I don't know where I would be. I try not to think too much about it or on it because it's our last. We have one more game and it's going to be our last together. It gets you kind of emotional because it changed my life forever. I texted him after one game a couple of games ago and said, Coach, you changed my life forever. This is quite the story right here at CU. This is exciting, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's really exciting. One of my favorite things about the Heisman Trophy is it's not just about your skills, it's also about your attributes as a person and how much you help in the community and be successful.
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interactive with the community okay i didn't realize that component of it since since we ended up getting a little wonky on things i'll give you the quote of the day from john heisman he said this he said don't cuss don't argue with the officials and don't lose the game I love that. And so Colonel Rutledge, he is just a treasure. And he's 96 years young, still curious about so many different things. And he'll call and he'll say, Kim, I think your listeners might want to hear more. You know, fill in the blank. So a little bit later this morning, we will be recording a show for Christmas week regarding the Boston Tea Party. And in fact, it'll be more than just the Boston Tea Party. Again, a whole bunch of great information. And the fact that he shares this with all of us, I think it makes us all more informed and better. Joe?
SPEAKER 03 :
I totally agree. And I mean, he definitely proves this. Seek for knowledge never ends. It doesn't matter how old you get. You keep seeking the knowledge and you keep moving.
SPEAKER 19 :
And so he said this, yes, absolutely. So this is so exciting regarding Travis Hunter. And ideally, we would have liked to have broadcast this on Friday right before the awards on Saturday. But the way the schedule was working, it ended up this was the open place that we had to do that. So that is how this whole thing worked out. And he is – it's a really special story. And we haven't had a Heisman – Award winner, I think, since Byron White, I think, which is a long time here from Colorado. So this is a really big deal.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm not sure either. I'm actually not that well informed with Colorado football. I'm from Oklahoma. OU is where I've always had my knowledge.
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Well, it's going to be very exciting. And again, the award will be this Saturday. And Travis Hunter from University of Colorado is a favorite to win this. He, as Colonel Rutledge has said, he is one of the most versatile players that we have seen in many, many years. So pretty darn exciting. And so stay tuned on all of that. The second hour, we'll be talking with Trent Luce. And I wanted to talk with him about this Next land grab that we had talked with Josh Lowenstein about earlier in the week, about, I think, over 19 million acres, I think, for the Canadian links. And so on the way out, the Biden administration is spending monies and getting it over to cronies and trying to do land grabs. It's really a kind of a dangerous time right now for America, Joe.
SPEAKER 03 :
I totally agree.
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Yep. So stay tuned. And our quote for the end of this show, I went to John Heisman for this. And he said, when you find your opponent's weak spot, hammer it. And so today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for our number two.
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And it's kind of funny to think America was like, don't step in, don't step in for a while. And then when we were hit at Pearl Harbor, it was like, okay, now we have to do something. So We're not trying to control everything until it means something.
SPEAKER 19 :
Interesting. I had a friend, Russ, that sent an article over that actually FDR and many of the higher-ups... allegedly knew that Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed. And so they were saying that we want to stay out, but yet they knew that if something like that happened, it would draw us into war. And I'm getting cynical enough now as I've watched things all these years that I think that's very plausible.
SPEAKER 03 :
I totally agree. I think it is plausible, but I think it's kind of like a self-defense mentality. You know the punch is going to happen. You're just still waiting for it to happen, so you can defend it twofold.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, so super interesting. So all that was happening in 1941. 1961, just 20 years later, President John F. Kennedy provides U.S. military helicopters and crews to South Vietnam. So that whole thing's ramping up. Then 1971, the Libertarian Party in the United States is founded. I don't know. I guess I kind of thought it had been around for much longer than that. And then this is yesterday. We did not get to this day in history, but apparently there were fires in California yesterday. And at the time, Governor Jerry Brown said, this is the new normal. No, it doesn't have to be the new normal. But so in 2017, six wildfires in Southern California covered an area larger than New York City and Boston combined. And this is the narrative from the left, is that these fires, we don't manage our forests, we don't manage the brush, we don't We're not managing our forest well, and so you have all this dead brush and all of the leaves and needles and things that have fallen to the forest floor. And then when the fires start, or even in the prairie, when the fires start, they're more intense, they're bigger, and it's because we're not managing things, Joe.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're absolutely right. And then you double on that, the water problem. So they have water coming from different areas, but they could totally take the millions of dollars they get for this problem and fund it for desalinization and make it possible.
SPEAKER 19 :
California has a whole bunch of water on their western seaboard. So, yes, I agree with you. So I love the fact that you're a young Colonel Rutledge. You have this curiosity. And so you've got a long way to go between now and 96 years old, though, Joe.
SPEAKER 03 :
I just hope I'll have as much information as that man does by that time.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I'm so grateful that he shares it with all of us. Some of the headlines. This is super interesting. And let's see, I pulled this now. I thought I had the title. This is from Fox News. It says, "...protesters attempt to stop removal of hundreds of migrants from public-funded housing." There's that key word, public funded housing. That means that that is money taken from everyday hardworking Americans to do this. So it says activists and several elected officials gathered outside New York Governor Kathy Hochul's office in the capital in Albany on Monday to protest the closure of two hotels housing several hundred migrants in the state's capital region. New York City has a right to shelter law requiring the city to provide shelter for anyone who asks for it and has no other options. Protest organizers said they were advocating for Hochul to intervene to prevent the migrants' eviction and provide new state funding to shelter the migrants. Speaking during the protest, Angelica Perez Delgado, president of the pro-migrant nonprofit, there you go, there's your NGO, said, And I bet you, dollars to donuts, that they probably received money to make all this happen. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
I bet you. And then I think the higher-ups receive extra money in that whole mix. So some money has to be missing from them.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, many times they're paid very well. Paid very well. Yeah. Hmm. I'm thinking, oh, gosh, I should do some research on this. I do like to follow the money. But anyway, I'll finish this. It says she said this. Our need right now is to ensure that people in our hotels are not evicted. We need leadership and money from Governor Hochul right now to fund at least six months of housing and related services. Hmm. Hmm. OK. And then another thing we just need to mention here. This is from Breitbart and it says Colorado Democrats are celebrating a new law that will go into effect on January 1 that will extend free Medicaid coverage to illegal migrants who are pregnant as well as migrant children. And it says, dubbed Cover All Coloradans, the program opens up state Medicaid funding for prenatal and postpartum care, physical, dental, vision, and mental health care for children with an initial price tag of $51 million in cost to the Colorado taxpayer, according to CBS News.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hmm. Yet it's hard for the U.S. citizen to try and get into that system. And I looked into it because I didn't get paid very well at one point, and so I needed some way to help myself. And there are so many hoops and ladders to go through to just try and make it happen for a U.S. citizen. Why does the illegal immigrant get it?
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SPEAKER 19 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And helping you with your holiday shopping your Christmas shopping is one thing you could do for that veteran in your family is to buy a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service at the USMC Memorial which is located here in Golden they're working on raising the money for this remodel and this is one of their fundraising programs that they're doing it's a it's a really a great program you'll receive a beautiful certificate until they get to the point where they're building those pathways of service. And that certificate can be put on the wall. And it's really a beautiful gift. So more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. It is Wednesday. So that means it's a Trent Luce Wednesday. You know him. He's a sixth generation farmer and rancher from Nebraska. And so Trent Luce, welcome.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi, Kim. A couple of things came to my mind when you brought up the veteran. I attended and said a few words about the All-American Beef Battalion at the Cross Diamond Cattle Company sale this week in Bertrand, Nebraska. And Scott and Kim Ford own that Red Angus operation. And each year for the last 10 years, they've donated the proceeds from... Lot 21 bull. And 100% of the proceeds go to the All-American Beef Battalion, which has been a fantastic endeavor since 2008. And that bull brought $15,000 this year. And it's just anything we can do to find a way to say thank you. And the All-American Beef Battalion, what do they do with the money? Since April of 2008, we have fed nearly 500,000. I'm told now that the number is over 450,000. troops upon deployment or return from deployment, wherever that may be, a ribeye stage. And it's been the most humbling endeavor of my life. And that's where I met retired Force Sergeant Jimmy Williams, United States Marine Corps, who when I told him, I said, thank you for your service. He turned to me and he said, boy, don't give me lip service. If you really want to say thank you, then exercise the right that these men here have protected for you. Wow. That was the day I said, we don't just talk about showing thanks. We find a way to show thanks.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes. Man, I totally agree. And it is because of our military that you and I have this opportunity to talk about these important issues, freedom of speech. There are those that are trying to shut down freedom of speech, but we will continue to speak truth on this, Trent Luce, because ideas are so powerful, and that's why we need to talk about them. So property rights is inherent in the American idea, the idea that everyday people can own property and they can take risks, they can reap the benefits and the rewards, and also responsible for the risks they take as well. But my gosh, the land grabs by the Oh, Biden-Harris administration on their way out is mind-boggling. And I got a text from Gammy, who was listening to your show that broadcast before my show in the morning, and you were talking with Lee Brown. We had her on last week about, first of all, a land grab with this Hurricane Helene victims in North Carolina. So what's your read on that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I can't get enough Lee Brown all of a sudden. I've had her on two times on a row route and on trail on the loose in the last three weeks. And she, you know, what is so amazing about Lee Brown and you described her so well, she's boots on the ground. And Lee and I talked about a couple of things. There's so many non-governmental organizations that come to a place and a natural disaster and whatever the case may be, and bill for the public for profit by pretending to be part of the solution. And we got to cut through that. People got to do their homework and know who they're funding. And Lee Brown started Patriot Relief Fund, and it's absolutely making a difference. And what she's coming up with in terms of the land and how that whole hurricane came about, we're now more than three months away from that happening, Kim. And there are people that are still living in tents. There are people that have watched their loved ones and all of their things float down the mountain. And I'm just so happy to be a friend of Lee Brown's and somebody who's a champion for standing up for human rights. That's what it's about. And that doesn't even include what she's talking about with the land that's being taken away from the people. We first got to take care of the people. Then we worry about the land.
SPEAKER 19 :
So how did you get to know Lee?
SPEAKER 10 :
She called me.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, that'll do it. I got to know her because she and Karen Levine, and Karen Levine is a sponsor of the show, and they were on like the National Board of Realtors together. And Karen said, you need to get her on. So we had had her on several years ago, and then Karen had... She guest-hosted for me, and she had Leon, and then I had Leon last week, or a week or so ago, to talk about this as well. But my understanding is that the government is offering just pennies. on the value of the land if people want to rebuild, but if they decide to move or let government do what they want with the land, then they receive more money. At least that's what I think I heard her say. Did she say that to you? Is that your understanding?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, but in all honesty, Lee and I are on the same page that the government is only part of the problem. They're never going to be part of the solution. So it's better off if they take their pennies and go somewhere else and plant somebody else's sandbox because we've got real work to do in an area where people's lives are at risk. And that's the moral of that story.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Okay. Well, let's talk about another one. And I sent you this information over and we talked with Josh Lowenstein about this earlier in the week. And this is a significant amount of land that they're wanting to designate as lynx habitat, which encompasses several different states. What's your thoughts about that?
SPEAKER 10 :
This is the biggest land grab that I've been a part of in 20 years. And it seems like every time we turn around, and you mentioned that this Biden-Harris administration, it's really nothing new, Kim. This has been taking place, but now it's coming to everybody's backyard. I'll reference my friend Hank Vogler from White Pine County, Nevada. He has been fighting the Bureau of Land Management and Fish and Wildlife Department And I'm going to use a Nevada experience because it explains what is happening and Josh is dealing with in Colorado because we know that the lynx are on the endangered list anyway, which means all they have to do is determine that a certain area is critical habitat for whatever that endangered animal or plant is. And then you as a human being, it doesn't matter. Your property rights are gone. So the sage-grouse... was the target by the Fish and Wildlife in trying to get them listed, particularly in Nevada, as an endangered species. And so they came out, they did study after study, and I can find you all this documentation, be happy to share it with you. And after three years of threatening to put the sage-grouse on the endangered species list, the Fish and Wildlife actually came out and said, well, it's clear that the science says that we cannot officially list even as a threatened species, the sage-grouse. But what we're going to do to prevent that from happening, we are going to designate critical habitat areas for these sage-grouse just so that they don't become threatened.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 10 :
And so what they did was identify land that they did not want anybody to use, and that was potential critical habitat and removed the other uses of that. And that has been taking place for as long as I've been working on it, which is 20 years, where you continue to have pieces of land. And oh, by the way, Hank Vogler, a rancher, cannot use part of his allotment, which is a vested right that he has tied to a water right. But it doesn't impact if they want to put a solar panel, which they are doing at this moment in the same area that they told the ranchers they can't use, or obviously you couldn't log it either. or have any resource utilization, but we can go out there and destroy it with the industrial solar complex, and that's okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
Boy, we are in a time right now. And Trent Luce, as the Biden-Harris administration is on their way out, I think this is a real dangerous time in a variety of different things. There's spending all this money and sending it to their cronies. It looks like they're trying to get World War III going and they're doing this huge land grab. And so we are, we need to be paying attention and we need to be working on this. We'll continue the discussion with Trent Luce. And it's such important discussions for us to understand what is going on with all of this, my friends. And one of the industries, I talk all the time about Laramie Energy and thank them for their goal sponsorship of this show. It's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. But who is the real entrepreneur that we all think of as freedom? Well, it's the cowboy or the cattleman. And that whole industry is under attack as well. And And beef is such a great protein source for your diet. And I tell you, some of the best beef that there is out there is Lavaca meat. And I'm pleased to have them as a sponsor. And right now, as you're thinking about shopping, and you need to get this going now because Christmas is right around the corner, you can send a great gift box from Lavaca Meat Company to your friends or family or employees, and they will love you for that. Again, Lavaca Meat Company.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the line with me is sixth-generation farmer and rancher Trent Luce. And Trent, it looks like the Biden-Harris administration is – Biden said it's going to be a smooth transition from his administration to Trump's administration. But what I see from a policy standpoint, spending all kinds of money that we don't have – getting it over to cronies, land grabs, looks like trying to start World War III. Very dangerous time right now, I think, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and you know that I believe that the whole thing is scripted and that it's all just falling in according to plan. But there's part of this that is, in my mind, worthy of noting. Because I think I mentioned to you last week, you know, across the pond, I have guests on every day from, New Zealand, Australia, the UK, and Canada. And this week, Councilor Ingrid once again joined me from New South Wales and Australia, and she reminded us that if you own land in New South Wales and you want to go out and gather firewood, you have to get a permit to gather your own firewood on your own property. And so while we want to blame Biden and this debacle that's been a disaster of the presidency for all of these problems, it's just part of the big global plan which comes directly from the United Nations. You know, I talk so much about 30 by 30, which was Executive Order 18004 signed by Joe Biden on the first week in office, January 27th, 2021. And Well, that wasn't, yeah, 2021, first week. And you know what is really interesting about our discussion and the timing of this? Kim Munson, I'm going to put you on the spot. And you feel free to put me on the spot anytime you like, you know. It's your show, right? Uh-huh. Oh, wait, Wednesdays, it's our show. What happened on December the 12th of 1946 that is instrumental in what we're talking about here today?
SPEAKER 19 :
The U.N. was created? Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
You are spot on. You got that one.
SPEAKER 19 :
We didn't set that up either, did we?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no, we did not. The Rockefeller Foundation, the Rockefeller family donated six blocks of Manhattan property that would then become the United Nations headquarters. And that property at the time was $8.5 million worth of land in 1946, December the 12th. What's today? December 11th. So it's the anniversary tomorrow. Here's another little odd bit of trivia. What was that land that the Rockefellers donated previously in Manhattan before the Rockefellers acquired it?
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 10 :
The Meatpacking District of Manhattan. And if you have not read the history of the meatpacking world in New York City prior to 1900, it's fascinating. I've spent quite a bit of time just reading about it. And there were 80 active butcher shops and different meat processing facilities in the meatpacking district of New York. And they waned over time, obviously. But how symbolic to me as a livestock producer, sixth generation livestock producer in this country, that the Rockefellers donate an area that was previously a meatpacking area of Manhattan, New York, when then ultimately the United Nations is ushering in all of these new world agendas to eliminate meat from our diet.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, I've been thinking a lot about this over our conversations. And... And I know this will seem somewhat tin-hat, although I think that we've talked about this over the years with the medical industry, pharmaceutical industry, saying that don't eat as many eggs because you're going to get cholesterol or have higher cholesterol. And don't drink whole milk. and make sure you have your fruits and vegetables, which is good, but almost putting that above your protein sources. I'm thinking that all of that's connected in maybe not having us as strong as we could be if we had protein in our diets and whole milk. What do you think? Am I crazy?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, there's no crazy about that. I've spent 20 years trying to educate people But that's exactly what's taking place. And there's a psychiatrist, Dr. Georgia Ede, who has all of the data and science behind if you do not consume animal protein and animal fat. Even our cattle organization, National Cattlemen's Beef Association, who administers our checkoff and our research and our promotion, they still promote with my checkoff dollar. lean beef. There is no science that says that lean beef is beneficial. You must consume the right balance in monounsaturated and saturated fat in order to live healthy, particularly from a mental health standpoint. So you're not tinfoil in any way, shape, or form. I can get you all of the science you want to verify. This has been a concerted effort to not only weaken us from an immune standpoint and a strength standpoint, Most importantly, the items that we're talking about here that have been removed from our diet, including eggs, a great study just this week that reminded me that choline is instrumental and pregnant mothers must have the right level of choline while they're during gestation carrying that baby or their baby is going to suffer from an IQ standpoint. Guess what food item has the highest level of choline? It's eggs. And all of these meat items have the micronutrients and the proper fats to feed the brain, and they've demonized them so that they can dumb down America.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and hold on. I think that Colorado's cage-free— Egg policy is going into effect at the beginning of 2025. I think I saw a headline on that. So I think we'll probably see the costs go up here in Colorado on eggs very possibly.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, thank you. That is absolutely true. In fact, in the past three weeks, we now have egg prices in California, the first state to go cage-free. We now have egg prices in California at retail at $9 between wholesale prices, $7.75. And they are point blank saying this is because we have moved to a cage-free environment. Chickens are not as healthy. Chickens have a pecking order that when you put them in large groups, you cause more mortality. You do not have as healthy of a chicken. The best way to take care of a chicken, which, by the way, Kim Munson, is what brought you and I together so many years ago, is how do you house a chicken? You house a chicken to protect the chicken from a predator, protect the chicken from the weather, and protect the chicken from another chicken. And when you put it in a cage, you do all of that, and you make these food items available at a reasonable cost. You will see $9 to $10 per dozen eggs in the state of Colorado very soon.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, next question is a cage-free chicken laying eggs, it makes it more labor-intensive to gather those eggs, yes?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, the chickens still come to a common area, and they can, depending on the facility's My friends, the Hickmans, who have a presence in Colorado, but they're from Arizona, they have a very sophisticated egg gathering system where the chickens still come and nest and they lay their eggs in an area where they're, but in the rest of the day, they're trying to protect themselves and hiding from the bully chickens.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, there's bully chickens. Well, I thought that they were tolerant chickens.
SPEAKER 10 :
How many times have you in your life talked about pecking order?
SPEAKER 04 :
What's the pecking order?
SPEAKER 10 :
Where did the term pecking order come from? The chicken flock, because the bully chickens are beating up and killing and eating, because they're cannibals, the other chickens.
SPEAKER 19 :
I did not know that. So, OK, here we go. This is from this was October 28th, 2024 from the Department of Agriculture. It says starting January 1, 2025, all eggs sold in Colorado must be from a cage free facility. All egg producers in Colorado housing more than 3000 egg laying hens. will need to comply with the requirements of a cage-free facility as defined in the amended cage-free egg rule. Additionally, all egg and egg products for sale in Colorado will need to show they are compliant by including COCOM organic or cage-free on their label. It says farmers all over the country who produce eggs sold in Colorado have been preparing to comply with these new cage free requirements since 2020, said Julie Mizak, Colorado Egg Program Manager. As I'm looking at just reading this, look at all the force words there. It's must and comply requirements. Let's see. Compliant requirements. Gosh, there's all kinds of force words on this. And people should be able to have the freedom to choose a cage-free egg product or not. But when you have all these force words there, when you have to force something, you don't have to force something that's a good idea.
SPEAKER 10 :
I agree 100%. And the day is coming very quick that you will not care what the force words are. You will simply want the power pack nutrition that you can get from an affordable egg.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. And before we go to break, just think about this young family, that they're getting squeezed with government-induced inflation, higher property taxes, higher taxes, energy costs to heat their home, to drive their car. And now they will be squeezed even more as they go to the grocery store regarding their eggs. And this is all because of government and public policy. And we've got to get this turned around because we're headed towards food shortages if we don't get this whole thing turned around. And it is important to have these discussions, and we have them because of our sponsors and a very important book called that will be highlighted through December here, and there will be a national push next week, is Swift Sword.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. Text line is 720-605-0647. That's 720-605-0647. And we'll address some of these text messages. We've got Trent Luth, sixth generation farmer and rancher on the line as well. But first one, I had mentioned FDR. A friend of mine sent over an article that said FDR was probably aware that that Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed. And our listener said FDR was a fan of Mussolini from Italy at first. I didn't know that. I've not sourced that. But the person that did text me that pretty well knows what he's talking about. Another listener said that they heard the math yesterday that each Lynx, regarding this protecting the Lynx habitat, they would get 33,000 acres. And it says, and we only give illegal aliens a small hotel room. Hmm. Where's the humanity? This is a good question, and I'm going to ask Trent this. It says, who in our government has this final authority to be offering pennies on the dollar for these land grabs? So, Trent Luce, do you happen to know who's making those particular decisions?
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't know who's making those decisions. I know the offers are coming through FEMA.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
It seems like FEMA has an open checkbook. I did want to weigh in because I do happen to know that on the FDR situation and the knowledge of Pearl Harbor, it's pretty widely known that he knew that the attack was coming. They maybe didn't know when. But it's also very well documented that the ships that were at the harbor that day were the oldest and the least effective ships. The three main aircraft carriers that we relied on were all out on maneuvers at the time and not at Pearl Harbor. which doesn't speak well for somebody that knows they're coming to attack our troops and they allow it to happen.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know, and I do this day in history, and two days before or three days before the attack upon Pearl Harbor, it said this day in history the aircraft carriers and some of the destroyers, I think, moved out to the ocean. I thought, huh, that is pretty darn curious, right? And the other thing is, is the USS Oklahoma went down quickly. It turned over and, in fact, Colonel Rutledge, we had talked about it, he said that for days they could hear tapping from guys that were trapped. in the USS Oklahoma, but they couldn't get it turned over. They couldn't save them. And my father's cousin died on the USS Oklahoma. And just a few years ago, his remains were identified. He was buried at the Punchbowl in Hawaii, and his remains were identified. And we brought Wilbur home, and he was buried in Mountain City, Missouri. So very, very curious. Let's see here. Next thing, the Biden administration actually thinks they can gaslight the American people into believing it's going to be a smooth transition. I think, Lynn, our listeners right on that. We've got somebody on the line. You said David. Is that right? Producer Joe David, what is on your radar?
SPEAKER 06 :
Kim, I listened to Trent and you discuss all these issues every Wednesday. I guess my question to Trent is, with his vast knowledge and experience, does he have the ear of anybody in this administration coming in that we may be able to turn around these whole, I mean, all the issues you've been talking about, land grabs and water and CO2 pipes and everything. Does he have any friendly ears in Washington that he can kind of bend their ear to get some of these things corrected?
SPEAKER 19 :
Great question. Trent.
SPEAKER 10 :
So in a previous Trump administration and prior to the election itself, I was asked and served on the Trump Ag Advisory Committee, which did afford me the ear for many people, including the Secretary of Agriculture. I was the very first interview that Sonny Perdue conducted as Secretary of Agriculture in the Trump administration. And many personal friends, longtime friends, In fact, let me just go one step further just to let you know. When the Trump appointments finished in the first administration, there were 12 people that I had possession of their cell phone numbers and were close friends before they were named to the Trump administration. And so my point in all of that is that he really reached out and he tapped hands-on people to be a part of what, and those were all mostly in the USDA. One was in the United Trade Representative Authority, that's Greg Dowd, who did the negotiation with China for the phase two agreement in the trade negotiations. And many of my close friends were also not appointed, but part of the Trump transition team from Barack Obama to Donald Trump. That friend who headed up that transition team in 2016 is also in charge of 2024. And he called me two weeks ago and Kim, for the benefit of KLZ, I cannot say what my friend called and told me as I answered the phone because it would result in a fine and Kim and I being done on the air. And he was responding. He was actually just telling me that I'd been right. and that nobody with hands-on experience is being tapped to go into this administration that Trump has assembled in 2024. And he said, if this continues, I'm out of here because it's headed in the way of Pearl Harbor. He didn't use those words. I'm just tying it into the conversation of the day. With that said, Bobby Kennedy had joined me on the air several times. I had a conversation with Vivek Ramaswamy when he was campaigning. Both of those, from a CO2 pipeline standpoint, were very much adamantly against it. In fact, Bobby recently, and I helped shape that, did a documentary, a little video I should call a documentary, a very well-done video about the danger of the CO2 pipeline. But neither one of those two guys have responded to me since. Bobby announced that he was no longer running for president and that he is going to just be a part of the Trump team. They both have ghosted me since that point in time. So I think you can see why I have no faith in this transition of being more about we the people than we've been for the last four years.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hmm. Okay, David, I guess that's an answer to your question. We've got to stay on this, though. We've got to continue to shed light on this. David, anything else?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we just need to put pressure on our elected individuals and the Republicans that have gone there just to— You know, stay on point and get these things done. It's our only alternative.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. I think you're absolutely correct. So thank you, David. Quickly, we had a listener that emailed me regarding that they disagree with you, Trent Luce, regarding, it says... And he says that, hold on here, he said, check out David Bloom, author of Alcohol is a Gas, a multi-degreed bio-expert, completely disagrees with sixth generation, a farmer and rancher, and says that this Bloom has actual scientific proof that Roundup is a very bad thing that ruins soil and makes wealthy fools wealthier. We don't have a lot of time on that. What's your answer to that, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 10 :
The reason that I'm not anti-glyphosate is because it reduces tillage and we must control pests and we cannot increase tillage because we don't want to use a herbicide that has been effective without displaying any harmful effects whatsoever. I do not have any data that says that it destroys the health of the soil. We must maintain the integrity of the soil And the most catastrophic event to soil, ask my grandfather, who was born in 1918, who tilled the soil till it was so fine. And that's what led to the Dust Bowl. It's minimum tillage and better use of minimal amounts of chemicals that have allowed us to increase our soil health and reduce the amount of tillage that's taking place. If you can't reduce tillage, you're not going to improve soil health.
SPEAKER 19 :
And also, without pesticides and herbicides, your yields go down if you don't have those two things, which means you feed less people, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. And just a case in point, my grandfather planted corn, and then he would have to cultivate the corn in both directions. So he would eliminate half of the stalks that he planted just to control the weeds. You have to have an appreciation for not only weed control, but insect control and pests that attack these crops. We have achieved all of this abundance through technology and the implementation of technology while improving soil health. whatever we can do to maintain and continue to improve soil health and add organic matter to the soil is what we must do.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. And thank you, Trent. And thank you, James, for your email as well, because we want to talk about these things. So I really do appreciate that. Trent Luce, we've got 30 seconds left. Your final thoughts you want to leave with our listeners this week?
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm just going to leave the same thoughts. And in fact, I think it was David that called in. I want to echo his sentiments. You never stop being loud. We have a Bill of Rights in the first one says the right to speech. The answer to the question is grassroots America shouts at the top of their lungs saying we will not accept this anymore. We want control back and we're taking it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, and engaging in that battle of ideas to make that happen. Trent Luce, thank you so much. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks, Kim. And John Heisman said this. He said, when you find your opponent's weak spot, hammer it. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mountains climbing, twisting, turning further from my home. Young like a new moon rising, fierce through the rain and lightning, wandering out into this great unknown. I don't want no one to cry. But tell them if I don't survive, I was born.
SPEAKER 15 :
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In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush is joined by financial expert Jordan Goodman to dissect the rapidly changing global landscape. As the year comes to a close, Jordan reflects on a year full of unprecedented changes in the financial markets, with Bitcoin hitting new highs and the Dow pushing boundaries. He offers deep insights into how these shifts impact everyday life, and what we might expect looking ahead. The conversation turns to the sudden fall of Syria and the resulting geopolitical instability in the Middle East. John and Jordan explore the repercussions of this upheaval, including Israel's strategic responses and the potential for new power dynamics in the region. They discuss the possible effects on global markets and ponder over the future economic and political landscape, weighing different potential outcomes. As the episode wraps up, John and Andy Pate talk about the importance of strong leadership and the role influential figures like Elon Musk can play in the world's transition. They conclude by emphasizing the challenges that lie ahead and the opportunities for positive change in the coming year.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
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And it is Tuesday, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. How's Andy today? Andy's doing well, sir. Good to hear from you. Glad you're here, Andy, as always. Jordan Goodman joining us now as well. America's Money Answer Man. Jordan, how are you today?
SPEAKER 14 :
Great to be with you both. The world keeps changing dramatically. Every month that we meet, it's a completely new world.
SPEAKER 04 :
It does change. And for Jordan, this is our last show of 2024.
SPEAKER 14 :
What a year it has been. Think of where we started and where we are now.
SPEAKER 04 :
It has been a whirlwind, no doubt. And the other thing, Jordan, I know is as I get older anyways, the year goes by faster.
SPEAKER 14 :
It seems to be. I mean, just even in the last week, the collapse of Syria in a week was quite... Astounding, for example. Nobody was predicting that.
SPEAKER 13 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
Just things out of the blue. Bitcoin going from, it began the year, and I think it was about $40,000.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, $40,000, $45,000-ish or so, I want to say, somewhere in the neighborhood.
SPEAKER 14 :
Now it's about $100,000. I mean, these are just amazing things. The S&P, the Dow is over $45,000. The S&P is over $6,000. I mean, this has been a spectacular year. you're the financial markets uh... in many many ways despite all the problems of public controversy in the world Global headaches. The markets keep doing very, very well here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, Jordan, I know I'm going a little out of order here on the topics, but you just mentioned the fall of Syria. What do you think that's going to do with the markets worldwide? What do you think it's going to do with the Middle East? I mean, obviously, we have great uncertainty. You never know. There's the devil you know and the devil you don't know. We have no idea what kind of monster will take over for the monster.
SPEAKER 04 :
For the monster that just left?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. So what are we looking at? Do you have any predictions? Do you have any feel, at least maybe for the economic end?
SPEAKER 14 :
well i'll use one word for you chaos okay there's a lot of different groups involved in syria there's the druze there's the turkish there's the kurds there's remnants of uh... isis and uh... it's just all kind of it's a mess that there is no it's a vacuum it's a vacuum that's been interesting right after asad fell over the weekend israel moved right in and took a huge amount of land on the Israeli border to create a buffer so that there could never be an attack like an October 7th attack.
SPEAKER 04 :
Smart move, by the way.
SPEAKER 14 :
It was. It was. They took Mount Hermon, the whole area. And then the next thing they did was they bombed the Syrian Navy, which was in the port, and wiped that out in a day. Then they started bombing all of the government buildings, defense buildings.
SPEAKER 04 :
They don't just, like, move in is what they really should do.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, they don't want to take it over. Nobody wants to take it over. I'm going to say that in jest, but not a bad idea.
SPEAKER 05 :
Remember the Occupy people who took over several blocks of Seattle? Yeah, they just move in and call it good. Just do that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we did that with Iraq, and that didn't work out so well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but we're not the Israelis, Jordan. But I'm joking. We're not as smart as they are.
SPEAKER 14 :
And then they bombed all these defense and basically wiped out what was left of Syria's army, which had been quite powerful, actually. They don't want any threats there. So they took care of that. In fact, we did the same thing. The U.S. went bombing with B-52 bombers and all.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, does that cripple the capacity to cause a lot of problems for the new Syrian government?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, that's the idea. Tripling them because you don't know who they are.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, do you think that they adequately... There's a lot of they's. And the country could be broken up into various pieces, a Kurdish piece. The Turks are very much involved in this. They really were supporting the various anti-rebel groups. Russia just folded like a cheap suit.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's where Assad went.
SPEAKER 14 :
And Assad got out of there and went right to Russia, where he was treated as a hero.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that's why they did it, right? Because Russia was tied up. Yeah, he went to the buddy's house. That's what you do when you're in trouble. You go to your buddy's house. That's what Assad did.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. So he got out. Saddam Hussein got caught in his hole. He didn't get out. So it's a really big change that happened extremely suddenly. And it leaves a power vacuum. In the best of all worlds, they'll have some kind of a coalition government that's peaceful and wants to rebuild the country and be peaceful with Israel and all that kind of thing. That would be wonderful.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Jordan, I mean, do you see it as kind of an interesting dynamic? And here's what I mean. We now have returning to power here in America. the president who brought us the Abraham Accords before, that were starting up in the Middle East, and now you have Trump coming back into office and suddenly you have new leadership in Syria. Does this open up possibilities?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it does. What Trump said immediately is it's their problem. Let them figure it out. I don't want to get involved, basically. Well, that's leaving a power vacuum there. and somebody's going to move in, and we want good guys to move in instead of bad guys. So I don't think you want to just let it play out and not have any influence whatsoever. We do have about 1,000 troops in Syria.
SPEAKER 04 :
The difference is we've got the good guys that are on our side that are watching over the bad guys, that being Israel, and if you're Hamas right now, you should be paying very close attention to what just happened in Syria.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Well, I mean, the reason Syria fell so quickly, Assad fell after 60 years in office there, was Hamas has been pretty much wiped out. Hezbollah's leadership has been pretty much wiped out. Russia's been drained by Ukraine. Iran's been hurt by Israel. So all of these supporters of Syria just kind of evaporated from the last little while here and just left the power vacuum. And the rebels were very smart. They said, now's our time to strike. when they're very weak, and the Syrian army, which had been so powerful, just folded almost instantly. It's just the craziest thing. So we'll see. It could go in a good way. I'm not sure I'd use the word democratic, but at least somewhat democratic coalition of all these different groups. It could go a bad way. It could be some kind of an ISIS or al-Qaeda affiliate takes over. Israel actually said today, we want to work in peace. We want to you know, be with them and have them be a peaceful neighbor. But if they're not, we'll treat them like Hamas and Hezbollah. Pretty clear, you know, which way things could go.
SPEAKER 05 :
Jordan, do you think some of the military laid down their arms so quickly because they were sympathetic to the rebels?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I mean, when you're in power, you think you're all powerful. And then when the tide turns, people run. They were taking their uniforms off. collect at the end of world war two up no real problem because i want to become a nazi you know at all became civilians all sudden same kind of thing happened there that's all kind of people try to get out of syria that have been supporting assad tons of people were trying to get into syria i thought pictures of enormous of lines of traffic of people wanted to get into syria like from turkey where they've been refugees all over the place so it's it's just gonna mix up the middle east I hope it comes out well, but usually those things go to the Middle East. It's usually pretty volatile.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, we shall see. I'm not sure exactly, again, how that's going to play out. Again, I'm not losing any sleep over it with the fact that Israel's there monitoring what's going on. We've got troops there as well, as you just said a moment ago. Trust me, I guarantee you they're—well, I don't know about this administration, but the next administration will be paying close attention to what's going on. These buffoons we have right now, I have no idea what those guys are doing. I don't think they do.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. No, you're right, and they've— All these things have happened under Biden's watch, and he had no influence over it whatsoever.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you talk about a vacuum of leadership right now in Syria. The world has had an absolute vacuum of leadership for four years.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Yeah, well, things like this happen. Things like Afghanistan and the terrible, humiliating withdrawal from there happened on Biden's watch. The Ukrainian war. I mean... Let me be really optimistic for a moment here. I'm going to be maybe two rose-colored glasses, but let's try this on, okay? Trump comes in and does a deal with Russia and Ukraine.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And basically the deal is Russia keeps the property, the territory it has, which is completely decimated anyway. I mean, who even wants it?
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And they do some kind of a demilitarized zone, and they stop the war. And all these terrible losses and... But both sides are stopped. That would be wonderful.
SPEAKER 04 :
I already predicted that by January 20th, so that's my prediction.
SPEAKER 14 :
So that would be really, really good to stop the war. Then he goes into the Middle East and reshapes the whole thing with Iran really weakened. Maybe the Arab states will come in and help Syria, help rebuild the Gaza Strip. Hezbollah is kind of destroyed in Lebanon. We've got a peaceful Lebanon situation. And, you know, the Abraham Accords, we get Saudi Arabia supporting all this. We get a redone Middle East that's kind of pro-Western, pro-Israel instead of pro-Iranian. I mean, that would give him two Nobel Prize prizes.
SPEAKER 05 :
And everyone in the Middle East would be doing the Trump dance.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm just thinking really positively, but okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't see it, by the way.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't see anything you just said being out of question, Jordan. What was that again? I don't see anything you just said being out of the ordinary or out of the question for Trump as it comes in.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's been going on for, whatever, three and a half years now with Ukraine and Russia.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, one of the things that Donald Trump could do and most likely will do is you look at Syria's natural resources, which really haven't been fully tapped because you've had an evil dictator running the thing, as you said, the last 40 years. So you open some of those things up and allow the people to have access to some wealth they've never seen before. It's easy to get folks on your side when you do that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Oh, yeah. All the elements are there to have the U.S. be the really good guys in helping them. I mean, we tried this before with Ukraine. After the Soviet Union fell apart in 1990, we went in and tried to help Ukraine become a democratic place, as we did with Russia and Eastern Europe. A lot of it worked. You know, we have democratic places now in Czech Republic and Slovenia and Slovakia and You know, East Germany is part of West Germany and Poland.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hungary and other places like that. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
It worked. It worked. You know, these have been just terrible communist states, and they're relatively democratic now.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, that's why a lot of those folks, you know, head of Hungary, by the way, is very excited for a Donald Trump coming back into office because he understands how much that benefits his country. And I know there's a lot of other countries over there because of what you just said that see it the same way.
SPEAKER 14 :
If they could stop the Russian-Ukraine war, that would be a major victory for the world.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I think they look at Donald Trump coming in and saying, no offense, but Biden's lucky to wake up in the morning and have his bowl of Froot Loops, nonetheless go do what needs to be done around the world as far as peacekeeping goes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, really quick here, and I want to throw this to Jordan, my last question of the segment. Jordan, is it fair to say that outside of Ukraine... For the rest of the world, Donald Trump is the American president already.
SPEAKER 14 :
Not yet. He's got about a month to go. I mean, he's had a lot of influence now.
SPEAKER 05 :
It just seems like he is everywhere, talking to everybody, making decisions, already having Mexico basically say, okay, we're going to be much more serious about immigration. Canada as well. He is wielding power everywhere, and Biden is wielding none.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Much more than during a transition. I'll give you an asterisk on top of that, though, okay?
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Elon Musk is president and a half.
SPEAKER 05 :
Fair enough.
SPEAKER 14 :
He's there for everything. In other words, he's in all these meetings. He's deciding who should be appointed. He's in meetings with Zelensky. You know, he's going to restructure the government. So we have a kind of a co-president here. So it's dark MAGA. Yeah, Maga Musk.
SPEAKER 04 :
We'll talk about that. We'll come right back. Don't go anywhere. Those of you listening, by the way, Jordan Goodman, America's Money Answer Man. Jordan, how do folks get a hold of you?
SPEAKER 14 :
They email me at jordan at moneyanswers.com.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, and, of course, Jordan Goodman, America's Money Answer Man. Jordan, really quick on Musk being involved in some things right now, and I was just telling Andy through the break. Again, that's something that actually, as a business owner myself, excites me. What we do in government is push all of the private sector away. We draw this hard line in the sand that, you know, this is private. We're public. And frankly, Jordan, government sucks at everything it does. So why not take some advice from some folks on the private side that actually do very well at what they do? Because no offense, government doesn't do very well.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's going to have a major impact on the way things are run. Now, we've tried this in the past. You might remember under Reagan, we had the Grace Commission run by the guy running Grace Chemicals. In 1990 or so, we had the Simpson-Bowles Commission. Those were politicians, but they had a lot of recommendations. This is going to be far more wide-reaching than that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah, but those guys did not run, well, Twitter, which is now X. Those guys did not run the number one platform in the world. I mean, they're not as out front. They were behind-the-scenes guys. They could not just leverage their name and their voice to make things popular and say, we really do need to make these cuts.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I mean, this is a guy who's got a track record of creating a car company out of thin air, basically, to take over the electric car.
SPEAKER 04 :
And doing a complete turnaround at Twitter and, you know, taking, you know, SpaceX, which literally was, I mean, he's almost broke running SpaceX and now is re-landing rockets, which has never happened in the history of the world.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. All kinds of things he's done. He's got a major, major investment in artificial intelligence, billions of dollars. He's building a site in Tennessee. I heard it has. It's not there yet, but it's being built. A million computers with NVIDIA chips on them.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's getting close to being done. He took over the old Electrolux plant is what he did.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And I mean, the power of something like that is beyond comprehension, basically. So this is a guy that makes things happen and makes them happen fast. So it's going to be very interesting to see because there's going to be massive resistance. From every part of the government.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Everything he's going to recommend. Everything.
SPEAKER 05 :
I hate to spend too much time.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I think the public was behind, you know, what Trump's doing here, too, in wanting a real change agent. Yeah, the public is tired.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, I really believe this, Jordan. And this was spoken loud and clear in this last election. The public is tired of their hard-earned tax dollars being wasted on everything from illegal immigration to junkets to you name it. They're tired of that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. So we'll see. And there's a lot of inertia, I guess, when it comes to change in Washington. Trump's talking about taking agencies out of Washington and putting them in the field.
SPEAKER 04 :
Best way to do it, by the way. In fact, I was telling Andy before we came on air today, I mean, as far as reducing... The cost of those agencies and eliminating some payroll in the process because some of those people, frankly, Jordan, won't move. One of the easiest ways to downsize something agency-wise is to move it. So brilliant, by the way. Best thing that could ever happen to them.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, for example, I think they did that when the Bureau of Land Management moved to Denver. BLM, yeah. So that was an example of doing that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, they went to the western slope over to Grand Junction is where they went, Jordan. Which, by the way, has been a huge help to that area over there. It gets them actually in the center of a lot of that territory that they're actually managing and handling anyways. And much better for them to do it here than in D.C.,
SPEAKER 14 :
No. So it's going to be a complete rethink of the way government works.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, no offense, Department of Energy should be in the panhandle of Texas in the Permian Basin.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Midland, Texas.
SPEAKER 14 :
Ramaswamy is going to add, he's a multi-billionaire who created business out of nowhere as well. So it's just going to be fascinating to see what the so-called DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, is actually going to be able to pull off. But I think the government is very much behind what they want to do. So if that were to work and we could get the deficit down because we're spending a lot less money, that would be very, very positive.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Well, first of all, I'm going to be honest. I love what Doge is going to do. I think they're going to cut over a trillion. I think that's great. But you know what? That's not going to come near to fixing the problem. And we are not going to fix the problem because we're not going to go after entitlement spending. And until you do that, and Trump won't do that, but until you do that, forget it. You're shooting BBs at a tank. However, Jordan... What about all these government workers who are going to be out of work as a result of Doge? They're going to get bulldozed. I keep saying that, right? Bulldozed, yes. I keep saying they're going to get bulldozed. What are they going to do in the private sector? Because then they're going to turn around and go to the private sector looking for jobs. Are a lot of them going to think tanks? Or are they going to do actual jobs? I've got one here. The Director of Climate Diversification.
SPEAKER 04 :
That person will be on the bread line. Food service?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he'll be on the bread line. What on earth, and I mean literally, what on planet earth is that lady qualified to actually do if this is what she's been doing?
SPEAKER 04 :
Maybe some college you'll hire, that's about it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, Audubon Society, something like that. I mean, in general, I think there are highly qualified people in government who will get jobs in the private sector and add a lot to the private sector.
SPEAKER 04 :
True. Some will.
SPEAKER 14 :
Some will. You know, some of them, not all of them, but I think a lot of them will. So if we care much more, I mean, look at the world in the exact opposite. This would be a revolution for us because the rest of the world is going the other direction. You look at Europe, okay? France and Denmark and all these places have more and more government jobs all the time, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
And we need to go the opposite. I mean, again, you talked about a moment ago with Musk and AI. For all of you listening, please hear me out on this because a lot of conservatives are against AI. I am not one of them, by the way, Jordan. I look at government, how inefficient things are, even the computer systems that we use to run things. The IRS is working off of systems from the 60s, and I am not exaggerating when I say that. Right. You talk about the amount of manual labor that goes into a lot of these government agencies and workers and so on. You could literally modernize so many things in government and make things so much more efficient to where these workers, frankly, Jordan, are just not going to be needed any longer. And to Andy's point, I hate to say this, but the lowly data entry person, frankly, is going to have to go find a job, and it may not be that easy for them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, what about the DEI people?
SPEAKER 04 :
They're worthless. They're done. Yeah, I don't know what they're going to do.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, I hope that they have other skills because the skills they have, you know, pushing racism everywhere is not really a skill. That's called activism. And I don't know what their skills, where they're going to get paid to do that in the free market.
SPEAKER 14 :
The lucky part about this is that we have artificial intelligence. just blooming at this time. So that's the solution to make things much, much more efficient. I saw something today where there's literally a voice to video instantly. So I saw that if you speak into the computer, this is through ChatGPT, and literally whatever you say becomes like a movie.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it'll do it, yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, instantly. They had a picture, they say, put woolly mammoths running on a desert. A picture in 3D of woolly mammoths running on a desert. I mean, it's just amazing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I want a giraffe hanging off a cliff that's being rescued by an excavator. It'll make that video.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, it's a new world, and it's coming along just at the right time when we have people who are willing to change things dramatically. There's a lot of areas. I'll just give you another example that could change dramatically. Education. Okay? Oh, yeah. Trump talks about the academy. And maybe we don't have to send people, as many people as we do, to four-year college education and have all this debt and not really get good skills. Maybe people could learn much faster and more efficiently with artificial intelligence. It's already happening in education, but it could be really encouraged to get people the skills they need much, much faster and more efficiently. That's just one of my examples.
SPEAKER 04 :
The biggest issue that they're going to run into along those lines, and this could be an entire subject matter for an hour and don't want to spend that much time on it, but getting people to think differently. differently in regards to what you just said a moment ago, Jordan. We have got teachers literally in classrooms that have been doing it the quote-unquote old-fashioned way that are going to be very resistant to what you're saying because at the end of the day, their job's on the line.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Well, in that case, they're tenured. You can't even get rid of them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not necessarily an elementary or high school teacher, not in the public school systems around the country. They might have some pension and some things like that, but there's no tenure for those folks.
SPEAKER 14 :
But it's hard to fire teachers, and they have all kinds of union representative protections in various ways. I'm talking about the college level. All of us could be upset dramatically, and in some ways very positively. Things could be much more beneficial, but they're going to be losers. They're clearly going to be losers of this as well. But you can't stop progress. We can't be Luddites.
SPEAKER 04 :
we don't want the machines coming and as you know this is going to have a big effect and we saw job numbers come out last week which by the way i think are completely false they're overrated there's mostly government workers in that number they'll be revised once trump takes office they'll make him look like the goat when it's all said and done they're trying to make biden look like the hero and and they're going to try to make you know trump look like the goat at the end of the day i think people will be able to read through that but again it's At the end of the day, Jordan, you know, we'll talk about this as we go through 2025. You're going to see all sorts of things jump around when it comes to these numbers, because to you and Andy's point a moment ago and some of these government agencies get some big changes made to them. And some of these people have to start looking for jobs. And granted, some may just take early retirement or do something along those lines. But you're going to see people having to switch jobs and that may affect those numbers.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think it could, but I must say that on Friday the jobs number came out 227,000 jobs in November. About 30,000 of those were government. The vast majority of them are still considered private sector. And the two biggest areas are health care and travel and leisure and hospitality. So most of them are in the private sector.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I noticed that there was a real bump in leisure and hospitality. Why do you think that is?
SPEAKER 14 :
People are traveling a lot. The cruises are filled and the airports are filled. I mean, over Thanksgiving... It was a record day. I forgot what the number was.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, even here in Denver it was. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Some huge number of people are traveling, and they're taking their cars, and they're visiting hotels, and a lot of people out there traveling. A lot of people are doing very well in this economy, and you can think, with the stock market up, with Bitcoin up, people are feeling, consumer confidence is up, people are feeling very good, and they're outspending, and a lot of them are spending it on experiences. Because they were cooped up during the COVID times.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they were cooped up and also got the pent-up demand, but also, Jordan, and maybe you can answer this after the break, okay? But do you think that Trump getting elected has created such a surge in people, the positivity of the market, the positivity of the consumer, the willingness to not only go and spend big for the Christmas season, but also travel more, do everything more?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, I think so. And the other part is business. I mean, you need business to have confidence to invest. And I think they're going to have much more confidence to invest. Their taxes may be going down. There'll be more incentives for them to invest, particularly if we put tariffs elsewhere of other countries, there'll be an incentive to invest in America. So the combination of consumer confidence and business confidence is very powerful.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. All right, we'll come right back. We'll keep talking. Jordan Goodman, America's Money Answer Man. Again, Jordan, one more time, how do folks find you?
SPEAKER 14 :
Jordan at MoneyAnswers.com is my email.
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All right, we are back. Myself, Andy Payton. Of course, Jordan Goodman, America's Money Answer Man. Jordan, South Korea, which we've been watching also, lots of things that have happened there. And, you know, they've been a very friendly country. We've helped them a lot over the years, helped them rebuild and did a lot along those areas. You know, of course, it's a great importer to us as a country. We get a lot of electronics and things along those lines, cars included. What's that looking like moving forward and what are your thoughts there?
SPEAKER 14 :
i think the word cast comes up again with you seem to be going that direction because uh... it doesn't normally very solid stable country and last week uh... because of various protests and uh... accusations the president had various kinds of corruption uh... he didn't like all the protest outside so he declared martial law the legislatures rushed past the soldiers to go into the assembly to uh... overturn martial law a hundred ninety zero in six hours. That didn't go too well for him. And then they tried to impeach him, and his party members walked out of the legislature on Saturday, and so they didn't have enough of a quorum to impeach him. They're going to keep trying to impeach him. So just a lot of political volatility that would not normally be expected from such a stable place. Korea has had the second highest growth rate in the world after Taiwan. Both very successful countries. So things are not growing as fast as they used to, but they're still a very strong country with companies like Samsung and Kia and all kinds of major players that we see with their products here all the time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, absolutely. Well, time will tell how that ends up working out, I guess, when it's all said and done. Talk to us about, given the fact we're talking Asian now, talk about China and really some of the things that are happening there. They're not in great shape, and frankly, the Trump administration, him coming in, has got to be making the Chinese government very nervous.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, they are. Trump is talking about putting 35% tariffs on all imports of Chinese goods, which is over... $500 billion worth of goods a year. The idea is to discourage companies from making things in China and bring them into the U.S. to make them here. Some of the things they could do in theory, but a lot of things they just can't. I'll just give you an example. Strategic minerals, which are the so-called rare earth minerals, 97% of that market is controlled by China. And these are these small, rare minerals, but they're needed in chips and defense and just all kinds of different areas. Last week, China said they're not going to export that to the U.S. anymore in retaliation for some controls on sending chips to China. So the trade war has already started before Trump has gotten into office here. I mean, again, there's two ways that they could respond, the Chinese. They could say, okay, we don't want to get hit with huge tariffs. Our economy is already weak. We'll open up our markets and do all kinds of things to China. make and stop exporting fentanyl i mean all kinds of things in china doesn't we don't like right and then we have lower tariffs and more trade and that's really wonderful for the world or they could respond the way they have so far you're not pushing us around we're going to not sell you strategic minerals which are crucial to you and and that you know put tariffs on their own on for example american agricultural products which is very big going to china so we could either have peace breakout or a bigger war And if they put a 35% tariff on all products coming from China, that's a tax on Americans. That's going to get paid in the form of higher prices by consumers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Go ahead, Danny. Okay, really quick. I don't want to move on from the mineral rights too quickly. Is there a chance, though, Trump has talked about in the past, of opening up more mining companies? That would be great, but it would take years. And when you've got people like Trump and Musk and these kinds of people working together, and let's not forget the vague, when they want something to happen, it tends to happen very quickly. So if they were to open up more... I'm not even sure we have the minerals here. Oh, we have a lot of them. We have a lot of them. The problem is a lot of them are locked up on federal lands. And you've had the Obama administration. Unfortunately, the Bush administration didn't fix these things. And the Biden administration, you've got these people.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the EPA and others that really restrict us doing a lot of these things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that's just it. They're letting the deep state within, of course, the EPA and other agencies lock these things up. And so if Doge comes in, bulldozes, as I keep saying, and you've got a lot of the power taken away from these agencies, and if Trump opens this up, that opens up futures with the mining ones.
SPEAKER 14 :
That would help a lot, because we are totally dependent, particularly on China, for these very important strategic minerals. But again, even if it's Trump or Musk time, it would still take years to get these mines up and operating in any significant way. Very true.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would debate both of you on that. No, it doesn't take years. If you can fast-track these things and get things cranking along, we as a country have been known to build things very, very quickly if you get one key thing out of the way, government. If you get them out of the way, we can do things very quickly.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I mean, I hope so, because it would be really good to have strategic minerals.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
It depends on China.
SPEAKER 05 :
One real advantage is that a lot of the assessments have already been done of the land.
SPEAKER 04 :
And my point with China is I think they should be very careful in their response, because if they make happen what the three of us just got done talking about, that will not end well for them.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Well, beyond that, so we've talked in the past on the show about the BRICS countries, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Knuckleheads. 100% tariff. Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Argentina, some other places. They just had a meeting in Russia in November. And basically they're trying to dethrone the U.S. dollar. And so they want a new currency. They'd love to. The BRICS currency backed by gold as an alternative to the dollar. Well, Trump heard that. He said, okay, any country that tries to dethrone the dollar, we're going to put a 100% tariff on them. Good. That would be dramatic. That would really affect the world economy. You're talking about China. You're talking about India, Argentina. We import a lot of stuff from these places.
SPEAKER 05 :
Jordan, do you get the idea that Trump uses tariffs? Because there are different ways to use tariffs. You can use them just to protect union interests and so forth, protect the jobs. But also, he seems to use them as leverage. As a threat. And so it seems like he comes out big. You know, Trump is a negotiator, right? The art of the deal. And so he comes out big, 100%. OK, but do you get the feeling that he's coming out big just to scare them and then he could be negotiated down from there?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, he did. I mean, he did tariffs. He actually followed through in his first term with tariffs on China, which Biden actually kept. He didn't pull them back. So he follows through on his threats. I think 100 percent is a bit much. But are you going to change behavior? I don't think so. I don't think Brazil, Russia, India, China are going to give up on the BRICS efforts. So that could be a monumental battle over literally the financial system of the world. And is the dollar still the world's reserve currency, or is there going to be a new alternative for them? Half the world's population are in the BRICS countries.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I mean... Half the world's population that are all run by knuckleheads and don't have good economies themselves.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, here's a question for both of you, okay?
SPEAKER 04 :
Really quick, am I right, Jordan? These are not thriving countries.
SPEAKER 14 :
I wouldn't agree with that with all of them. I think India, for example, has run pretty well.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a third world country, Jordan.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is, but it's growing.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not even second world yet.
SPEAKER 14 :
But I would agree about Russia. I would agree about China. Brazil, yeah, I'd agree about Brazil. And South Africa, I would agree. So mostly, I would agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I look at these as wannabe players in the market.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, China's the second largest economy in the world, so they may be in trouble, but they're still very large.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, they're in huge trouble, and we've talked about that many times here. And I think they're – by the way, their troubles are just starting to surface. And frankly, it's why they push so hard to make sure that a Joe Biden or a Kamala Harris became and or stayed president. They don't want Donald Trump in there. That's detrimental to their economy.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's correct. And they're really feeling a lot of hurt right now, because their whole economy was based on an export model. And exporting, having a lot of jobs in China, taking jobs from the rest of the world. I'll just give you, we've talked about this before, the electric car market. Okay, Chinese electric car, we've kind of stopped them because we're putting big tariffs, I think 100% tariffs on them. But they've decimated the German and other French and other European car makers, and by putting a huge amount, millions of electric cars into Europe and taking away big market share. That's an example of kind of exporting their way to success. A lot of countries don't like it anymore, and they're going to be pushing back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and really quick, as a country that has probably stolen more from the United States than any other country, I do not feel one bit of sympathy for them.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Zero.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, they're hurting. They're hurting right now. I mean, their stock market's been bad. Their real estate market is a complete mess because they have this massive overbuilding and all these literally millions of unfinished apartments that people invested in. It's really hurt consumer confidence. And they also have a demographic problem. Because they had the one-child policy for so long.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's an older population. There's not enough younger people to support them. And even the younger people that are there can't get decent jobs.
SPEAKER 04 :
They've made grave mistakes over the years. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Jordan, in his past dealings with other countries, you know, Trump has always gone with the carrot and the stick, right? And he leads with the stick. I'm going to do 100% of this, 25% of that. But then he also... He sits down with them and brings the carrot. So when you're talking about the BRICS countries, what kind of carrot can he offer to soften the blow? Well, look at them and say, look, you really want our consumers, obviously, buying your products. What are some things we can do?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I mean, what he's asking was to stop their effort to create an alternate currency. And I don't think they're going to do it. I don't know what carrot you could offer them to get them off of their path. They do not want to be deprived of the U.S.
SPEAKER 04 :
anymore. No, and this is the stick only, in my opinion. There is no carrot. You're right. There are no carrots for that one.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm just going by his past negotiating tactics.
SPEAKER 04 :
You have to, at the end of the day, crush these other countries that want to do that, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 14 :
This has been one of our major benefits, having the dollar as the world reserve currency since the end of World War II. Before that, it was the British pound. Britain was controlling the world. And that's been a major... It's helped us with exports. It's helped our economy grow. It's made the dollar strong. Threatening that is a major threat to the U.S. government, I agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
One last thing before I let you go, Jordan. I'm going to combine breaks so we can give you a little more time that way. Antitrust policy changes, which I think you're going to see under the Trump administration. What's that going to do in that world?
SPEAKER 14 :
Complete opposite of what we've had. The Federal Trade Commission and the Justice Department Antitrust Division have been stopping all kinds of what I thought were sensible mergers. And that's going to be completely changed. So now we'll have rational margins. I'll just give you an example. Spirit Airlines wanted to get together with JetBlue. And they blocked that. The FTC blocked that. And JetBlue, I mean, Spirit just declared bankruptcy. That's right. And they needed to get together.
SPEAKER 04 :
They needed to. That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And there's a lot of other areas.
SPEAKER 04 :
That would have been better for consumers to have done that than what the FTC did.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. That's right. And this week, Mondelez said they want to buy Hershey. uh... they'd apparently today they blocked the croger albertson's deal uh... which yes would have been massive company but they're competing not against local stores but against amazon and costco and huge other other that's when i predict after trump takes over we'll get revived so those are you know i think are in general positive i do want to stop monopolistic behavior i do agree with that but i think in many cases like this uh... spirit jet blue you make two relatively weaker companies stronger by combining them.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And a lot of good mergers. I mean, there were some of them that overwhelmed it, like when Microsoft bought Activision Blizzard. That's been very positive. But they had to spend two years in court battling it out. This will be much easier. So one sector of the economy that's going to boom, absolutely, is the investment banks and mergers and acquisitions. This is going to be a glorious time to be in the M&A.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, one last time. How do folks find you, Jordan?
SPEAKER 14 :
Jordan at MoneyAnswers.com. I get emails from your folks all the time, and I'm always glad to help them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Appreciate you, Jordan. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year as well. Appreciate you this last year.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's been a really interesting year, and next year will be even more interesting.
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SPEAKER 05 :
One and a half?
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Nope. You're both wrong, but good guesses.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
And it's hour three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, Victoria Coates. Joining us now, Vice President of the National Security and Foreign Policy at the Heritage Foundation. And you've got a new book coming out as well, Victoria. Welcome back.
SPEAKER 13 :
John, Andy, good to be with you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Always a joy. And really quick, the book title, Battle for the Jewish State, How Israel and America Can Win. It comes out today, I believe. Am I right on that, Victoria?
SPEAKER 13 :
Sadly, we had a minor shipping delay. It's going to be next Tuesday, but it is available for pre-order on Amazon right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so all of you listening, make sure you make note of that. Okay, so can a Trump administration, you've had a front row seat in the past to some of this, so you're as, you know, how should I say that, you're more apt to speak about that than Andy or I, because you've had a front row seat in this regard. Can Trump, and Andy and I talk about this quite a bit, in fact, we did this during our first hour today. Can he bring peace to the Middle East, like he says?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, he's done it once before, so I would trust him to do it again. And I actually just got back from Israel and the Gulf yesterday, and I would say everyone in the region who wants peace and prosperity is really eager for the return of President Trump. They want that steady hand on the American tiller. They want strong U.S. leadership. They understand that we're not going to get into every fight in the region, but that when we do, it'll be decisive. So I think we could be optimistic.
SPEAKER 08 :
Victoria, what was it like for the last four years for Israel, not only to have a complete leadership void in Washington because of Biden, but really having an administration that, let's face it, was against Israel in a lot of ways?
SPEAKER 13 :
It's been really hard to watch, because the whole point of the battle for the Jewish state is to lay out for the American people just the practical case for why we're allies with Israel, because I don't think that happens very often. You're either sort of asked to pay lip service to it, and I think folks can be excused for saying, gee, why are we doing this? But when you look at it, you look at the historic investment of American taxpayers in Israel, you look at what they can do, and we've certainly seen it over the last 48 hours when they basically had a map of the Assad Syrian military, and they've been methodically going around blowing up all those weapons depots so that the potentially terrorist groups that are taking the country over don't have access to that. They're a great ally. But I think the case needs to be made. So that's what I tried to do in the book. But watching the Biden folk over the last four years systematically try to undermine that relationship has been really, really hard to watch.
SPEAKER 05 :
I agree. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Victoria, why don't you answer that question? Just a little bit. I don't want you to give it all away because, hey, you've got to sell the book. But let's say that I know a moderate or maybe a libertarian friend, and let's face it, they don't like our partnership with Israel. And so they come down on our partnership with Israel and say, this is a bad idea. We shouldn't be helping them. We shouldn't be partnering with them. Stay out of it. And we need to just stay out of it. Stay out of it. What would be a thing or two I could say in response?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I would say for starters, you know, it is a lot of people try to pivot away from the Middle East. The Middle East doesn't pivot away from you, unfortunately. It's an area in this very sort of critical geographical region between east and west. And because of the energy deposits that are there. It commands the world's attention. I mean, just that is the basic practical reason. And it used to be 40 years ago that we were engaged because we needed those resources. Now we don't. But we need them on the market so we have a stable global market. But really, it's China that needs those resources. So if I want to be engaged in the Middle East, I want to do that because I want to control China. I want to work with my partners and allies so that we're the ones, the energy superpowers who are coordinating, not the evil powers of OPEC. And in terms of Israel's broader capabilities, I mean, the intel capabilities, but then beyond, you know, the security relationships. They brought us everything from the cherry tomatoes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I was just going to say thank you. A lot of the other advancements that we as Americans get to benefit from is that relationship that we have with them because, let's face it, Victoria, there are a lot of brilliant minds. It's a very small country, not very big in relation to the rest of the Middle East. It's this little sliver right there that really keeps the peace. And yet the amount of technology and things that we as a country benefit from is huge.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, it really is, and it benefits all of mankind. And so for all the people who profess to hate Israel, to want to see it wiped off the map, they would need to realize they'd have to give up everything from their iPhone to all sorts of high-tech medicines if they wanted to do that. So it's a very, very valuable relationship. It's paid enormous dividends. And just to put things in perspective, the price tag on the U.S. investment in Israel over the last 75 years is about $150 billion, which is a lot of money. But bear in mind, we're close on $200 billion to Ukraine in less than three years. That's right. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
How much is it a year? And, Victoria, how much is it annually on average?
SPEAKER 13 :
Right now, in terms of the current MOU, it's about $5 billion a year.
SPEAKER 05 :
I was going to say $5, $6 billion roughly.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. So hypothetically, what if for the price tag of $5 or $6 billion, we could give that to other nations in that region, and each one of them would have to pledge to do this. They would have to have a fully functioning democracy, full freedom for women. They would have to absolutely shut down all terrorist training camps in their area. their borders they would have to you see what I'm saying basically they would have to act like Israel there would be no you know people from their place bombing bus stations around the world okay they would have to fully partner with us monitor their people yeah they would have to fully partner with us with freely sharing Intel from the region the whole thing That would be dirt cheap. That's the cheapest state in the world. If I could give Saudi Arabia or if I could give Yemen or one of these places five, six billion and they would become all those things, I would do it in a heartbeat.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, unfortunately, Saudi doesn't need the money.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER 13 :
In Yemen, it's not quite clear who would cash the check. That's kind of the problem all over that region, Victoria.
SPEAKER 08 :
But I'm just saying, Victoria, people don't seem to understand the deal we're getting with Israel.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, and then think about all the joint programs we've developed together, because another sort of key theme of the book, and it gave the book its cover, which is the picture of the Iron Dome interceptors preparing to destroy the rockets coming out of Gaza. But missile defense, since 1983, when President Reagan announced the Strategic Defense Initiative, has been a kind of a dialogue between our two countries, bringing us everything from Iron Dome, which was a proprietary Israeli product. But after the success of that, we developed David's sling and arrow together. And now we have President Trump talking about Iron Dome for the whole United States. So, you know, this is this defensive system, which is so extraordinary. I mean, nobody ever went to war with something called missile defense, but it neutralized 300 Iranian missiles in the October 1st attack. There was another attack on April 13th and 14th. but really an extraordinary display of how sophisticated these systems are, how they can protect both of our people. As I said, great return on investment.
SPEAKER 05 :
And if I'm not mistaken, Victoria, a lot of that defense system itself, the hardware, I guess I should say, we actually make as a country, not Israel. It's their technology. They help co-develop it with us. But companies like Raytheon and so on actually build the equipment. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. No, both David Sling and Arrow are joint programs between Rafael, which is the Israeli defense major, and Raytheon, as you said. So these are things that we make together. And what's great, after what President Trump achieved with the Abraham Accords, is we could potentially extend that. So we could be talking about joint missile defense programs for all our partners and allies in the Middle East, which would really neutralize the Iranian threat.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Yep, absolutely. It'll be interesting to see how things go. We did talk in the first hour, and I just wanted to get a brief, you know, throw a brief question out to you when it comes to what's going on with Syria itself. That's been a big development even since you started the book and all of that. I highly doubt you anticipated what just happened in Syria happening. And I guess the question that I have is, A, how do you see that playing out? Israel's done a great job of really diffusing some of what could have happened there by what they've just done. How do you see that all playing out when it's all said and done?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, you're 100% correct. I didn't see it coming. And guess who else didn't see it coming? The Biden administration. And one of the things I've been reflecting on is the fact that they had a major intel failure every year. In 2021, it was Afghanistan. In 2022, it was what happened with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It wasn't the three-day war. In 2023, it was the October 7th attacks on Israel. And this is 2024. So, you know, these people have been just perpetually surprised by everything that's come down the pike. And they have been the gall to say, oh, gee, we don't want people like Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard in there because they're not part of the system.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Good. We need some new people to shake this up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Amen.
SPEAKER 13 :
And ask all the tough questions because the Biden folk haven't done that. I don't mean necessarily fault our intelligence professionals. I fault the people who are setting the priorities and asking the questions. But the problem we now face in Syria, while President Biden is busy patting himself on the back for his great, great victory there, is, yes, Assad is horrible. It's good that Assad is gone. But it doesn't mean these HTS militants are necessarily better. These are ISIS and al-Qaeda affiliates that we've brought in here. We haven't brought them in, but they are going to topple Assad. And we have to make a decision of how we're going to deal with them. So I think that the designation of the terrorist group that President Trump put on them in 2018 should hold. The burden should be on them to demonstrate that they have, as they claim, moderated. I don't know if that tiger can change its stripes, but if it does, I want a lot of proof that that's the case before I go giving them any economic relief. So I think this is something to watch closely. Israel's doing the Lord's work right now, blowing up all these munitions, preventing them from falling into their hands. But it's something we need to monitor.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Good answer. Victoria, again, thank you. Welcome back. I always appreciate talking to you. You're a wealth of information, and I learn something every time you're with us.
SPEAKER 13 :
Awesome. Well, thanks, you guys.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John Rush together with Andy Pate. John, let's talk a little bit about the Daniel Penny verdict, as we know. Sure. It was a thundering verdict. I mean, this was unanimous.
SPEAKER 05 :
Guy should have been on trial. No, no. Absolutely not. Okay, for those that may not know what actually happened and what got him there in the first place.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, he was on a subway. A black gentleman, young guy, comes on and is very violent and is not just being loud. He is saying, someone's going to die here today.
SPEAKER 16 :
He's threatening people, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he spent about 30 seconds. And 30 seconds is a long time to have somebody ranting about how they're going to kill you. Absolutely. And he said he didn't care if he goes to prison. Someone's going to die. He was ready to kill people. They were terrified on there. By the way, the people on the subway... were mixed race. They were black people, white people, and Hispanic.
SPEAKER 05 :
So it was just a normal train.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Daniel Penny is an ex-Marine, a white guy, and he jumped into action and put the guy in a headlock and told others, get the cops, and he would hold him until the cops were there. By the time they got there, the guy was near death, and he died not long after.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right? And now, at first, there wasn't going to be Any kind of a case against him, he was going to be heralded as a hero, obviously. These people who were on the train viewed him as such. But Alvin Bragg, who of course cannot seem to find a white heterosexual male that he doesn't want to go after.
SPEAKER 05 :
He's a scumbag.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Well, he's a racist, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. He's a scumbag. He's a scumbag. That's why I say, racists are scumbags, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
He's a total scumbag. He decided to make this his big thing, and so he filed suit as the DA there in New York.
SPEAKER 05 :
So he brought charges, basically.
SPEAKER 08 :
He brought charges. The and people were really worried, not because Daniel Penny didn't have a good case. He did. But because it was a New York jury, a New York jury found Donald Trump guilty, which was ludicrous, you know. And so the the the idea was, look, the cards weren't stacked in his favor.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Say that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you're talking about a hanging jury. You know what I'm saying? But, first of all, there were two counts. The first one, they were a hung jury, and it was thrown out. The second one, they then came back on Monday, and they surprisingly gave him a unanimous decision, I believe, to find him innocent. Now, the head of Black Lives Matter there, and it's a gentleman named Hawk Newsome. Hawk Newsome. Yeah, I'm going to play him in a moment what he said. And it is just shocking. And I want to see what you think this means, because this is calling out to BLM members. And for those who don't, you know, I know BLM is crazy, but folks, they are large. They're not like the KKK. The KKK is some smattering of a few people scattered across the country in a few places. There's virtually nobody there. There is no KKK in terms of real numbers. BLM is everywhere and they're huge. Okay. And this guy reaches out to them. Here he is.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's like everybody else has vigilantes. We need some black vigilantes. That's right. People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud. How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us?
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. I don't think the guy on the train was being oppressed. He was being controlled because he was the lunatic. Well, yeah. First of all, he wasn't just being loud. He was... Nobody cares... He was threatening everybody.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, people don't like loud, but he was threatening to kill people. Right. Okay. So right now, the guy's lying. Right. Flat out. But secondly, he says... we will rise up and do the same to those who oppress us. Here's the problem. BLM describes almost everything as oppression. Right. Okay, so they're believers. Now, BLM has millions of followers. These are the people who have rioted in the streets. These are the people, because of them, we have had to board up whole cities, downtown, including Denver. Right. They are everywhere. They are numerous people. And this guy just called out to them and said, if you're feeling oppressed, you can be a vigilante against them. Against who? White people, John. Let me ask you something. Is it entirely safe for white people right now to go walking around downtown in Denver at night?
SPEAKER 05 :
In some places, no, it would not be.
SPEAKER 08 :
after what this guy just said.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, because he's basically calling on everyone to go out and rain terror down on those they don't agree with.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Now, I don't think they're going to do it right away. Yeah, I think they're going to lay in wait, but first of all, you're right. Yes, that's what he did. This guy is calling on... Look, this was an obvious ruling. The guy was a hero. This other guy was a threat. It doesn't matter what their races are. Right. Okay? This guy just basically said, fully race-based, we need to have our own vigilantes, and you do it when? When you think you're being oppressed. Well, I'm sorry, but BLM members think they're being oppressed no matter what. They think they're being oppressed simply because you are a white person and you haven't paid...
SPEAKER 05 :
Reparations. Reparations. Yeah, they think they're being oppressed if they get pulled over for a speeding ticket. They think they're being oppressed if they apply for a job and somebody else gets it versus them. Andy, I can keep going down the list of things they think they're oppressed over.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, and I've mentioned this before. I don't talk about it much, but for those who want to say, oh, you're just being hypersensitive, oh, really? Remember the knockout game? Yes. Where black men were going around, sneaking up behind white people and hitting them as hard as they could in the back of the head to drop them, to knock them out. That was done to my wife, folks, my five foot one wife, who was just standing downtown. I forget if it was that light rail. I forget exactly where she was. The guy came up behind her and did that to her and dropped her. Okay, folks, these people are dangerous. These are not MAGA supporters who are wandering around taking snapshots of themselves on J6. These are dangerous people.
SPEAKER 05 :
They are thugs. John and Cheyenne, go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Andy, I never knew that about your wife. Is she okay after that?
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, honestly, she gets a lot of chiropractic. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do we know who did it? Did they catch him? Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, oh, yeah, he went free shortly thereafter. No problem. This is Denver, man. There's no justice.
SPEAKER 04 :
I got 50 acres, and nobody would probably miss them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good one. The thing is, is that we're law-abiding. We don't take it into our own hands. But, yeah, I mean, it's scary.
SPEAKER 04 :
At some point, a little Western justice might come in handy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, he was a terrible man.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
But, you know, John, let me ask John and Cheyenne, what do you think of what this guy just said? We need our own vigilantes. Keep in mind, Daniel Penny, he was a vigilante. I mean, he acted when somebody was threatening to kill people.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he didn't go in that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
This guy is saying he wants them to be vigilantes when they feel oppressed. What do you think of that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I'm going to tell you something. I got this firsthand from someone who knows, guaranteed. The mayor of New York, a former police captain, has told his police commissioner there are no George Floyd riots under his watch. That will not happen this time around. Well, that's good. I got that. I got that specifically from someone on the job in New York. So he's not going to allow it to happen because he kind of, he didn't come out and say greed, but he came out and said, I've asked all these people, if you see something, say something and try to do something. And that's what Penny did. So he's not going to allow what happened in 2020 under de Blasio to happen again in New York City. He's not going to allow it.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, and I don't think he is either. And by the way, he's even somewhat friendly toward Trump. Really quick, my wife just texted me. She said the guy who did this to her, this is a full assault out of the blue. He was convicted of a city ordinance violation only, not even a misdemeanor.
SPEAKER 04 :
So was that within the city limits of Denver? Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And once again, guys, everybody who knows me knows I don't care about race at all, but I do care about how others care about race. OK, what if the races had been reversed? What if this had been a white gentleman doing this to a five foot one black lady who was innocent and just standing there?
SPEAKER 05 :
It'd be a different outcome, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
He'd still be doing time. They would have tried to figure out a way to make it federal to send him to Florence. Oh, and the media would have been all over it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, that's exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but, you know, and that's what the problem is, is, you know, this, I'm going to call him what he is, is this punk who had 42 arrests and six open warrants and mentally ill on drugs was threatening people. And somebody said enough is enough. Right. And every time somebody defends him, I've been seeing a lot of this. I'm kind of proud of X. Every time somebody comes out, there's always somebody that responds back. This was not a good man. This was a bad guy who spent a lot of time in jail and was a criminal. And I think that's what's going to kind of slow down the riots. But I don't see it happening. Plus, The weather's pretty crappy in New York right now. They're getting worse than what we're getting. That helps. It seems like there's only riots in the summertime.
SPEAKER 05 :
That helps.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, nobody wants to be out in the cold. But I just think that they gave this... I'm hoping that kid... I call him a kid, but I call everybody a kid. I'm 63. I'm hoping that kid realizes that he's got no chance for a calm life And he moved somewhere else, kind of like, what was his name? Kyle Rittenhouse did, where he just left the state, left the whole area to try to restart his life. You would probably have to in that case. Yeah, well, we welcome him with open arms in Wyoming.
SPEAKER 05 :
If he's smart, he'd go somewhere like that.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's about 31 states that were voted for Trump that would probably say, yeah, you're welcome.
SPEAKER 05 :
Plenty of room for him, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, nobody would bother him. He could probably move to the western slope of Colorado if he wanted, and nobody would bother him.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, or, you know, down. But it's just a shame that this poor kid... had to go through what he went through just because he tried to do the right thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Agreed.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's a hero.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And, yeah, Andy, when it comes to the whole, just that whole topic that we just went through in regards to, you know, number one, a person should have been on trial. Number two, the response from those that are on the left. And, yes, BLM is definitely on the left. And, you know, you were going to ask me, are they a terrorist organization? Yeah, absolutely, 100%. He just proved it. Yes. His comments proved it. They're a terror group. Yeah, they should be treated as such.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, and by the way, so is the KKK. The difference is, I guarantee you, BLM in membership, in people who follow BLM versus the KKK, oh, I'll bet it's a thousand to one, at least, in numbers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I would go as far as if I were in charge of the DOJ, they would be on the terror watch list.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
If you were a part of BLM, you're going to be on the terror watch list. That's what I would do.
SPEAKER 08 :
What do you think is going to happen with Trump coming in? I'm very excited. Okay, let's say I believe very quickly they're going to lock down the border. I believe they're going to be building the wall right away. Everybody knows when we say wall, we mean a lot of things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Fans and all kinds of stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, but it's going to be effective. It's going to be great. That is going to free up a lot of resources to go after crime in other ways.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which we need.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, and you're going to have Pam Bondi, right? As the AG. What is going to happen to criminals? One thing that we noticed over the last four years is America was utterly lawless. Criminals ran rampant through the cities.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. There's an article. Charlie was talking about it earlier off air. I had it in my notes for today. But, you know, in Denver, a thief ring, thieves ring, whatever you want to call it. Basically, it's a drug smuggling, car stealing operation ring. So 190 vehicles. These particular vehicles, a lot of them high-end trucks, were going back to Mexico to the cartels in exchange for drugs, fentanyl, things along those lines that they were then bringing back here. They bring back here and then rinse and repeat. So to your point, crime is... at an all-time high, which you won't hear the left talking about it. In fact, they bury the stats. They don't even talk about it. I'm surprised this is even on 9 News, by the way, but this particular ring was the indictment contained 222 charges, including more than 100 counts of auto theft, a dozen counts of drug possession and distribution, multiple counts of identity theft, criminal possession of identification documents, criminal possession of financial devices. On we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. John, do you think the Democrats are in some real trouble? And here's what I mean. The first time around, they were able to tie Trump up for his first two to three years with Russian collusion.
SPEAKER 05 :
A bunch of nonsense.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but they've got nothing to tie him up with this time.
SPEAKER 05 :
They've already tried that in the courts, and that didn't pan out so well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Also, Trump chose a number of people who were not loyal to, I'm not saying to him, but to the agenda.
SPEAKER 05 :
Andy, they weren't loyal to the country.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Okay. that's all past him. Now, I don't like his Department of Labor choice, but overall, I love his choices, and I think they're going to get approved. I think his Secretary of Defense is going to go through. I think Tulsi is going to go through with fine colors. I think a lot of these are going to go through. So Democrats, I think, had their chance. If they had chosen the right candidates to beat us this time and then cement their power, they didn't do it. They're in trouble because what happens now when people see crime going down? What happens now when people see fentanyl coming in at a much, much, much lower rate? What happens now when people see Springfield, Ohio, the Haitians moving out? What happens now when people see Trendy Aragua? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 05 :
Leaving.
SPEAKER 08 :
Leaving. What happens now? I mean, what are the Democrats going to do now? They had their chance to beat him now. Now they're going to have him come in and have all these positive results. And next time in four years, they're going to face.
SPEAKER 05 :
it with a great debate by the way with more money in their pocket when it's all said and done as well don't forget that part of it yeah cuz you know again we're going to we I call myself part of this cuz I hope so we you are we we are going to clean up a lot of things the government is doing there's going to be a lot of the waste you keep in mind folks and this is something that the course the left won't tell you but and you and I both know there are literally hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars Right. Yeah. That goes on all around the world. So a lot of the spending that will cut back, a lot of people think, well, that's going to hurt us as Americans because those will be things that we don't get the benefit from any longer. No, it's quite the opposite. That money that's literally going all around the world that you, as an American citizen, see zero value in whatsoever, those dollars will stop being spent and we'll start doing things back inside of our own walls.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And by the way, we're also going to be proud of our military again. Instead of all this woke nonsense, Pete Hegseth, and I do believe he's going to get confirmed, he's made it very clear. Trump wants one word. lethality right he wants it to be lethal and terrifying again right that's what he wants our american military to be well i got news for you if the american military is like that people are going to be proud of it if the border is shut down and we're not getting flooded and invaded non-stop people are going to be proud of that if crime starts to recede and go down in the cities because we have an fbi that instead of going after trump and going after parents at pta meetings um If we have an FBI that is actually going after the deadly criminals. These sorts of individuals you just talked about here in Denver. Right. Oh, Pam Boniello. They don't want her after them. They do not. If we have these things happening. And then, come 2028, we put up, because Trump's one big disadvantage was he was a horrible debater, okay? So we put up, say, a Vance DeSantis ticket or a Vance Tulsi ticket or whatever. Or a Tulsi DeSantis ticket. You know, some combination thereof, right? And there's one or two others you can throw in there. How do they win? How do the Democrats win? This was their chance.
SPEAKER 05 :
We talked about this last week, and they will definitely regroup. There are some loons, we know, on the left, just like there's some loons on the right that we tend to talk about at times. So there's loons on both sides, and no, those sides won't ever change. They are who they are. But there are those more... I hate to call it center Democrats, Andy, but more intelligent Democrats that understand strategy. Sure, Shapiro. Yeah, they can look back and see this is why we lost, you know, frankly, the Bill Maher's of the Democrat Party, where they're looking at everything they're doing right now saying, you guys are lunatics. You're never going to win another election if you keep going down this path. So there are some of those that are going to look at that and say, okay, we've got to make an about-face change in how we're doing things. The question for you is... Is there enough sane, solid Democrats, because my belief is there's a lot of loons on the left, because it's a mental illness, literally. Their thought process, in my opinion, is a whole mental illness in and of itself. So the reality is, do they have enough sane individuals? And I mean that seriously. I'm not just saying that to be, you know, boisterous or anything like that, Andy. I really mean that. Is there enough sane Democrats to turn the party around?
SPEAKER 08 :
Ordinarily, no. But right now, yes. And here's why. Because they just got clobbered because of the insane ones. And so Democrats right now are looking at the insane ones and saying, shut up. And they're looking at the Josh Shapiros and saying, lead us.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is where I'm going to disagree with you. I don't think there's enough sane ones left to turn the party around.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah, there are.
SPEAKER 05 :
There are.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, there are plenty of strategists, and the peons will, to a degree, fall in line. They've got a real problem with BLM.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, again, part of where I'm coming from is what you just played a moment ago. There's plenty of those loons running around that can change the face of the party. John, it's like this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Republicans in Colorado have a real problem because of Dave Williams and his cadre. They make us so toxic and hated in the state of Colorado. And they're the minority, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're the minority.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know, but people see us as them, and that's why 60% of the red wave didn't hit here, okay? It's very obvious. We are led by loons. We're led by lunatics. Right. We are. Okay. Well, Democrats have that problem with BLM nationwide because BLM has such a high presence in their party. Right. But... I do not believe that they are going to be choosing a BLM advocate for their presidential candidate next time around. That's not going to happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
I believe they're going to choose Josh Shapiro. But really quick, how does that play in comparison to what we've got in Colorado, where you've got somebody that they wouldn't want, much like in Colorado with the particular people we're talking about, if you would have ran or tried to have run anybody besides Donald Trump, These people are going to have nothing of it. They would have stayed home. Do they have the same problem on their side?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because the Davites, if we had had, say... DeSantis. DeSantis as our candidate, there are a good number of them who would have stayed home. Because they have no loyalty whatsoever to the party. Here's the difference. BLM is loyal to the DNC.
SPEAKER 05 :
Drew, I'll give you that. I will give you that.
SPEAKER 08 :
They will... That is the big difference.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'll give you that.
SPEAKER 08 :
The... The Trump-onlys and the Davites, that group.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're not loyal. Only to him.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. They have no loyalty whatsoever to the Republican Party. In fact, they spend all their time.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're anti-loyal.
SPEAKER 08 :
They spend all their time complaining about the Republican Party and calling everybody a rhino, which is ironic. A Republican name only, that's what they are. Because they have no loyalty whatsoever to the party.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
BLM is not like that. BLM is the militant arm of the Democrat Party. They are Democrats. They are loyal. They will turn out for Josh Shapiro. Here's the thing, though. Josh Shapiro would beat a Donald Trump, but he's not going to get to run against that. He's going to have to run against two things. Trump's legacy, which is going to be very positive. and a much better debater like J.D. Vance. I don't think Shapiro can beat that.
SPEAKER 05 :
And last but not least, Andy, again, I know Donald Trump won the popular vote. He won the Electoral College as well. And please hear me out when I say this, guys, and I love Donald Trump as well. We would have gotten that with any of the other candidates we had running. In fact, may have even had a larger spread than what even Donald Trump had.
SPEAKER 08 :
True. It would have been a different makeup. Trump has done a real favor to our party by broadening our reach into a number of demographics.
SPEAKER 05 :
Give him credit where credit's due. Right. Absolutely, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
But our performance amongst suburban women, for instance. Right. would have been dramatically higher with a number of other candidates. Correct. So it kind of balances out. The thing is this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Really quick, I will say this. Yeah, go ahead. I do think Trump's strong personality and what he did to attract men meant something, meaning we've got to keep that trajectory going. So whoever we have the next go around is going to have to remember that and still play hardcore with that particular demographic because that's what helped us win this last time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not a problem, because all of our top candidates are loved by the men who supported Trump. Let me ask you this, and you can answer it after the break. Let's say we have any combination of Vance, Tulsi, and DeSantis next time around. Is there anything they can do against that?
SPEAKER 05 :
If we have a really solid, strong four years. I mean, these are great debaters.
SPEAKER 08 :
These are people who win debates.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which I believe we will, by the way. No. No, I don't think there is. The only reason we didn't win in 2020, and I know before anybody starts throwing at me all of the nonsense of the election and all of that, and I get it. You know, the FBI laptop, Hunter laptop and all that. Okay, I get all of it.
SPEAKER 01 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 05 :
But the reality is, had Trump even played his cards a little better that go around and even done some of what he just did, we would have won 2020 because a lot of what we're talking about. So the reality, Andy, is if we do if he does well again, like he did the four years prior to 2016 to 2020, if we have a repeat of that, yeah, we're unbeatable in 2028.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because we've got to keep in mind, COVID brought him down before. There's not going to be a COVID bringing him down this time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not this time there won't be.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, but even if it comes, we're not going to respond the same way.
SPEAKER 05 :
It ain't going to happen this time.
SPEAKER 08 :
There is nothing like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
That was a one-time deal for the Democrats.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was a one-time deal that COVID is what defeated Donald Trump in 2020.
SPEAKER 05 :
I can't disagree with that at all.
SPEAKER 08 :
Along with them, you know, the FBI.
SPEAKER 05 :
With that and the cheating. I get that. But folks, remember, you know, you've got to go back in time. And we were here. We were on air. We were talking about all these things. The reality is there were some missteps in the whole campaign. Some of the debates, some of the way he handled things. Again, even some of the way that... You know, some of the people that he had around him during those four years, which he's not going to make that same mistake again. So, you know, he had turncoats going against him at the very end, you know, campaign wise, even that hurt him in 2020. That's not going to happen this time around. And he's not going to run again. Be those same people don't exist.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 05 :
So it's going to be a much different four years than what we saw the last time around. Frankly, I think it's going to be a better four years because of the things we just said.
SPEAKER 08 :
Think about this during the break. Vance DeSantis, because DeSantis won't be governor anymore.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, something else coinciding with what we were talking about a moment ago when it comes to Governor Polis, and Andy and I have thought for a while now that he's probably in line for at least a presidential bid, running a primary, something along those lines, potentially 2028, because he'll be out of the governorship here in Colorado for those last two years, heading up into 2028. Although, he has done some things of late. that are not boding very well for him. In fact, there's some news out today talking about the economy for Colorado looking down the road 2025-2026, and the reality is we've had a pretty robust economy here in Colorado, but some of the future predictions here in Colorado are not super strong, and that will not help him in some of these things that we are talking about. So frankly, Andy, here in the last quarter, He has had some huge missteps that are really going to affect his ability to do what we think he might do down the road.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. The fighting against deportations was a big mistake.
SPEAKER 05 :
Dumb. Huge. Stay away from that, Jared. Yeah. You're smarter than that. Yeah. Or maybe you're not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Vance DeSantis. Talk about two debaters. Yeah, it'd be a good ticket. A good ticket? That's a dream ticket. I don't even know how, because the vice presidential candidate... has been the best governor in the country, and the presidential candidate is a brilliant debater coming off four years of economic success for the country. How do you beat that?
SPEAKER 05 :
It'd be pretty hard for the left to beat that. And again, our own governor is not doing very well on his own account, which is surprising because he's typically very strategic. So we'll leave you with that, guys. Don't forget health and wellness tomorrow. Andy, thanks. You guys have a great night. Be safe out there. Stay warm. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
Explore the unfolding drama within Colorado's political landscape with host John Rush as he sits down with Todd Watkins. Together, they dissect the GOP's courtroom antics, their implications for party structure, and what it means for future elections. This riveting narrative captures the high-stakes struggle for leadership and influence, illustrating how legal strategies might redefine the roles within Colorado's Republican Party.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Welcome back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Of course, Charlie Grimes, Todd Watkins joining us now. Andy, go ahead. You introduce Todd and tell us what we're going to talk about.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Todd, of course, is the vice chair of the El Paso Republican Party. Are you still there, Todd? I am. Okay, just checking because there's like a Todd Watkins watch.
SPEAKER 04 :
Like the rhino watch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, because intelligent thought is not allowed in some corners of Colorado Republican politics.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, they shoot that down.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that's foreboding.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really quick, Todd. Andy and I have been trying to get on that rhino watch for the wall of shame, but we haven't made it yet. We have done everything we could. We're not as good as you. We are not.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'll put in a word, I know the owners. Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
My wife has gone so far as to say, Andy, why are you not Todd Watkins? And, you know, it's hurtful, but it just makes you more of a man when you are on the Rhino Wall of Shame.
SPEAKER 04 :
On the Wall of Shame.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I want to get there. Todd, what is going on right now? The state party, by the way, just came through an election, so... Money, usually that's when they have no money left because they should have used it all on the election, you know, helping our people get elected. I've written several posts online about how actually the state party dramatically underperformed the national average for Republicans in this last election. We did not do well here in Colorado. We picked up a few seats. We should have done much better. And now are you telling us that they are spending money on a whole different effort?
SPEAKER 08 :
yes yeah there are so as as we discussed earlier and I'll you know please jump in and ask questions to steer this so that we make this as clear as uncomplicated as possible because it is a rather complicated thing unless you're a total political party nerd so Dave is as the chair of the Colorado GOP has gone retained that the same attorney as before and they're asking the appeals court to overturn the judge in Arapahoe County who lifted the restraining order against Nancy Palazzi and me for the meeting that we tried to have in July, but it was TRO'd. The judge lifted it because basically Dave and his legal team lied to the judge.
SPEAKER 06 :
Whoa, whoa, whoa. So wait a minute. But you've already held that meeting. You held it in August or July or whatever. But you've already held that meeting.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was in August.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you held that meeting. Because the TRO was lifted, the temporary restraining order, so you've already held the meeting under the legal terms of the TRO being lifted at that time. And you're telling me, you're telling us, that the state party right now is spending big money on legal fees to try to get that overturned on a meeting that's already been held.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. It's a little bit like... I assume it's somewhat of a morbid analogy, but it's a little bit like pardoning somebody after they've been executed. I mean, what good does that do? We held the meeting. If Dave had held this meeting like we asked him to initially, evidently he would have prevailed. Well, they did prevail. A judge in El Paso County said... Dave is still the chair that we did not have enough numbers at the August meeting to remove him, so he remains the chair. So this is all moot. It would seem, until you unpack what they're asking, and they're using this, it appears, as an opportunity to have a higher court, the appellate court is higher than a county or a district court, to make some declarations as to the proper role of the executive committee, the proper role of the judiciary within political parties. And that one's a little bit... It's simultaneously ironic and hypocritical, because Dave, who started the legal lawfare in this, who went to the courts to intervene to stop us from following the bylaws... And he's going to now an appellate court to ask them to make a determination as to what role the judiciary has in political parties, ostensibly to say, we didn't have a role here, the judge was wrong to lift that TRO, and courts shouldn't intervene with political parties, which is, again, ironic and hypocritical. He's started the legal battle and now going to a court to ask them to basically admonish themselves for intervening at all. But really what he wants is to have the courts make a declaration or a decision that the executive committee can steer the central committee, essentially placing the executive committee in a near plenary position. authoritative role within the party.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I'll go really quick here. Todd, what you're saying is he would dramatically consolidate power for himself. Because for those who don't know, the Central Committee is from all over the state. It's over 400 members. The Executive Committee is just a couple dozen people, and a large majority of them are total loyalists to Dave Williams. So if the executive committee is suddenly given much greater power, he is given much greater power and he can be kept in power. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's what one would assume he would use that to do. And also a point is it's 24, 25 in the executive state executive committee and six are handpicked by the chair. So, you know, completely loyal. You're right. up to the point where even six are hand-ticked by the chair. I would have to think that what they want to do here is there was a bit of a foreshadowing at the assembly where there was a resolution passed at the assembly in Pueblo that basically instructing the central committee to opt out of the primary committee So I've got to think that, yes, Andy's right. He wants to consolidate power. That's the larger picture. But the more immediate near target is to effectuate a canceling of the Republican primary by way of opting out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can they, you know, I guess I'm confused, Todd. I didn't think that because that was passed as a ballot measure in the first place, I didn't think either party has the ability to do that. You know, school me on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's in the statute, 14702. It's in the statute. And this is how they got around, they meaning, you know, the Kent theory and the people who got this through and then maybe the Democrat legislature that actually enacted it. The way out of it to not violate a First Amendment conflict having to do with freedom of association is that the party, any party, the Republican or Democrat, upon 75% of the total membership of the Central Committee can opt out of the primary. So in other words, only the Democrats would have a primary election. The Republicans would then nominate their candidates to the general ballot. by way of assembly. It's right there in 14702.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, and obviously the assembly process greatly favors Dave and his loyalists as candidates. In other words, Dave very well could have become our candidate for CD5. had it not been for a primary where he got blown out by 30 points. And so obviously Dave and his cronies want the primary gone. But what I want to know is, are you saying that they're saying with this lawsuit, they can try to give that power to the executive committee over the central committee? How are they going to get rid of the primary without the central committee?
SPEAKER 08 :
So one of the questions that they're asking, according to their filing, is, to determine the ability of the executive committee to direct the central committee. And this goes back to that foreshadowing of the assembly where the assembly passed a resolution to instruct the central committee to opt out of the primary. So deductive reasoning tells me that what he's trying to do here is use a judge's decision to say, well, Our executive committee that is wildly loyal to me and will do anything I ask them to do will instruct the central committee to opt out. Now, what that looks like if the central committee doesn't comply, I guess they just, well, we're only going to count the yes votes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Which would, by the way, be possible. We're talking about people who tried to convert non-votes into yes votes a year ago September.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Again, Todd Watkins with us today explaining some of what's going on inside of the GOP as far as the lawsuits that have happened and some of the back and forth that's gone on. Really quick, Todd, before I get going, who is Hamden and Piggott LLP? In other words, that is some attorneys that the state party is paying. Who are they?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's it in a nutshell there. They are the attorneys that filed the original lawsuit. I know that Piggott is the one that I'm most familiar with, Dave Piggott. And he had something to do with a race, a House district race, a number of years ago. I don't know, six, eight years ago, something like that. But he is the attorney that Dave has been using for all of this.
SPEAKER 04 :
So we've spent in two months 55 grand with those guys.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was told it was more.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I just found two. I've just been searching since we started talking. So, so far, two of them is $55,000.
SPEAKER 06 :
Todd, the bottom line is we just came through an election. They're supposed to have no money in their pockets, okay? This is what they criticized KBB for. By the end of her term, she had no money in the coffers. Well, of course you don't. You just finished an election cycle. You're supposed to spend it all. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
They didn't spend anything on it. Well, I mean, they spent money on Dave's race for a CD5, including some defamatory pieces. In the primary. Yeah, in the primary. They spent some money in the primary. This is hearsay, but I've been advised that they've got over six figures left over. that had to do with the general election race.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right now they're sitting on about $275,000 in the bank account. I'm looking at the FEC report, and for all of you listening, you can look at that. And now I'm up to, for this particular law firm, we're at $65,000, so I don't know where it ends. I've got to keep probing, Todd. But again, at the end of the day, just as a side note, this is also not a law firm that I can tell specializes in anything legal. politically speaking. This is basically a family law office that specializes in, I don't know, personal injury, business law, estate planning, things along those lines. These are not what I would consider to be experts in this particular area. And Todd, I've been a business guy for years, and I've done all sorts of things, legally speaking, over the years on different things. And I mean, I don't know how much work this law firm has done but they would have literally had to be working night and day for several weeks to spend $65,000.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they had to learn political law. I can tell you that their initial filing to stop us, that was the first time they'd ever done anything political under Title I of the Colorado Revised Statutes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I mean, bottom line, we as a party are spending money in areas that, frankly, I don't feel we should be. Second of all, we're doing it to essentially—and make sure I'm saying this correctly, Todd— we're essentially doing it so that we can have our little GOP chair dictator continue to stay in power. Frankly, Todd, if this happens the way you're saying, if this goes through indefinitely, I guess, until he finally decides to step down, because at the end of the day, the power he'll have— will be unreversible, and who's going to absurd him from that particular seat?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, that's a very likely scenario.
SPEAKER 04 :
Am I thinking correctly, or am I off somewhere?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no, I think so. I don't know how much he could use a sort of, you know, omnipotent sort of ruling, granted omnipotent powers, how he could use that during the organizational meeting in March. I mean, that is still required by law, by statute, to have an organizational meeting in March to elect officers. How he could affect that, you know, use your imagination. They certainly have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, okay, and again, I want to make sure I'm following along correctly. If what they're doing in this particular filing and getting this appeal process to potentially overturn some things and go the direction— Wouldn't he then, if it goes the direction you talked about in the first segment, if he gets that done, he could actually go into this organizational meeting with a lot more power and the ability to control through the executive committee the rest of the committee, even when it comes to the organization of the meeting?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Make sure that I'm following correctly.
SPEAKER 04 :
And then, by the way, that's how, for all of you listening, this is how dictatorships get started, Todd, as you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. I mean, just look at North Korea, look at China. You know, it's cliche, but the Nazi Party did it in, what was that, 34, 35?
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, Dave has already come out and said that he wants to, and I'm using my words, but in so many words, purge dissenting voices in the upcoming reorganizational meeting. And we have to keep in mind, while Dave's loyalists, who are very organized, there aren't that many. It's a small group, but they are highly organized. While they cannot overwhelm a primary... and he gets clobbered by 30 points, they can overwhelm assemblies. And they can overwhelm reorganizational meetings. Why? Because these are tended by well under 1% of Colorado Republicans. So a very organized and motivated group of loyalists can overwhelm these. And that's how they've seized power so far in the Colorado Republican Party.
SPEAKER 04 :
And again, for everybody listening, those of you that are either on Dave's side, not on Dave's side, I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. I'm just trying to explain that, Todd, this is how these types of—call it what it is—dictatorships or even, you know, you get this rogue pastor that wants to take over a particular church and he wants to stay in there indefinitely. These are the way that internal— things happen whereby those individuals can stay in power indefinitely. I've seen it happen more than once, and that's essentially what's happening right now with Dave Williams, which, by the way, over two years ago, not long after he became chair, I told everybody this is exactly what he would do. So my predictions are coming true, everyone.
SPEAKER 08 :
He doesn't need numbers. He just needs to solidify and... and implant that insular circle around him. Correct. As long as they're there, he doesn't need numbers. He just needs 25 people that agree with him because they make all the decisions.
SPEAKER 04 :
All you need are your closest cronies on your side, and voila, you've now got whatever you need. You can stay there indefinitely. Your $200K a year salary could even be increased if you want. I mean, at the end of the day, Todd, this thing can just go as long as he decides to have it go. And, again, I'm not trying to be proud here, but, Todd, I predicted some of this stuff earlier. Again, ask Andy. Within a couple of months of he becoming chair, I started predicting these things, and voila, here we are.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you're basically saying he looks like a dictator, the way he likes to do things. Look, here's the thing. A lot of people may be thinking, oh, you know what? This is all inside baseball. This is just the Colorado Republican Party. Okay, let me tell you where the rubber hits the road. He wants to get rid of our participation in the primary. Had we not had a primary... had we allowed the assemblies Right. To choose our candidates in this last election. That means that the candidates that they wanted, that the Colorado State Party wanted, that Dave's people, his loyalists endorsed. Had we wound up with those candidates right now, the U.S. House of Representatives would be in Democrat hands. Right. OK, we would have lost CD3, CD8 for sure. And CD5 most likely. We have a two or three seat majority is all. Yeah. Right now we have a well, it's a five seat majority, which means if you flip three, that means they have one seat majority. And the thing is, is that, guys, if Dave and his loyalists had gotten their way this last election. the Democrats right now would be running the U.S. House of Representatives and hamstringing Donald Trump. Correct. Okay? That's how important this is.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. For everybody listening to Andy's point, Todd, this is not just inside politics. It is, but because it is, it can have grave outcomes upon what happens not only in the state of Colorado, but on a national basis as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, what the party does internally has tremendous impact. impact externally.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. That's right. Yeah, it really will have... If this goes the direction that I think Dave wants it to go, Dave, or Todd, I mean, I hate to say this, but Andy and Todd, at the end of the day, we will be lucky... to win anything future Colorado-wise, we will be doing good to win anything that isn't totally 100% red. If there's an ounce of blue or purple there, we will not be winning moving down the road.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And I want to, you know, I'm sure we're getting to the end of this segment here, but also understand that Dave wants to be in Congress. That's, I think, what is absolutely motivating.
SPEAKER 04 :
Todd, I said that almost two years ago as well, that ultimately his end goal would have been to have ran for either... Honestly, he wanted CD4. Loren Boebert screwed that up for him because he really wanted 4 because he figured that'd be the best shoe in. That didn't work out, so he had to go to 5. 5 didn't work out for all the obvious reasons and folks like us being on air talking about what was really going on in the first place. But no, Todd, I agree with you 100%. I said that even... not long after Dave became chair, that his ultimate goal is to be in D.C. and to camp out there as long as he possibly can.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. Todd, quick question, honestly. Dave Williams is so hated outside his hardcore base within the Republic. We're talking only a faction within the Republican Party supports this guy. Nobody outside the party or obviously in the Democrat Party or unaffiliated. Could he win any race in a general election? I mean, maybe even CD4. I wonder if he could have won. Is there any race he could win?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, if he went back to his house district, maybe.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I'm talking I'm talking U.S. House.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no, no. I don't see that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't either, because you end up with a a whole different. As you guys know, there's a whole different, you know, wider array of voters. And that's why we had such a hard time, even with, you know, Evans winning, which, by the way, as you know, Todd, Dave didn't want because he didn't want Gabe in the first place. I mean, we can go down the list of these things that have gone on that we've talked about, you know, At nauseam here on this particular program, and I don't want to rehash those, but I just want to remind everybody and Todd, all you're doing is solidifying what I've been saying for almost two years now, just shy of a few months of two years. I've been saying exactly this, that Dave is only in this for one person. It's Dave Williams. Those that are around him that are his loyalists are getting a snow job to the max. They think that they're in the inner circle and that Dave is their best friend. And, Todd, nothing could be farther from the truth. This guy will cut them off at a moment's notice if it means he gets to move forward.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not going to argue with that at all, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I've been saying this, and again, not bragging, but all of you listening, I have been saying this on air publicly longer than anybody else in Colorado has.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, if he's not removed, he will run the state party completely into the ground.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. Well, Todd, I've already said, and I hope I'm wrong in this, but I've already said that even if there's an immediate change this coming, whatever, February or March, and something happens to Dave, it's still a long road to get things back in Colorado, back on track by anybody else that would come along in lieu of Dave Williams. If Dave stays, it'll be a decade or more before anything changes, and it may never, ever change.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you've got to figure that if a new slate of chair and vice chair officers are put in place in March. that two-year term is going to be a lot of damage control. I don't see a lot of advancement, just a lot of stopping the bleeding.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you've got two years' worth of trying to get things back together from the division that Dave has created. And if Dave gets in there for another two years, Todd, it's not just a decade, it's beyond a decade before you can get things back on track. At that point, Todd, I hate to say this, Colorado's done. You might as well move and go somewhere else.
SPEAKER 06 :
The damage this guy has caused so far is so incredible. I've never seen a sledgehammer taken to the state party like this, ever. We are a laughingstock across the state.
SPEAKER 08 :
We're the laughingstock across the country.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Todd, I appreciate the update. I guess keep us informed as to how things go. I mean, as you know, we'll be watching this and so on. But if you want to come back and give us any updates on this, please let us know. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, Todd, one last quick question. How much money is he giving the lawyer for this latest frivolous lawsuit?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's tens.
SPEAKER 06 :
We don't know exactly, but tens of thousands.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we don't. Yeah, you'd have to look at whatever their filings are. But I guarantee it's tens of thousands. Probably just for filing that brief was probably close to five figures.
SPEAKER 04 :
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, of course. Joe, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know if you had a chance to read it, but, you know, the the the left is insane over their support for this killer of the New York City.
SPEAKER 04 :
The guy that unfortunately, Joe, and I'm going to talk about this on the podcast tomorrow, the NCR. Unfortunately, there's even some conservatives I'll throw in that camp.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, unfortunately, well, John, you could very well be right. But, you know, they're getting more and more and say, no, you know, the comments.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, by the way, I don't mean maybe on the conservatives being insane, but the all out disdain for insurance companies and somehow justifying what this young man did to the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. Even if even if you're a conservative and you repost a meme that even is along the lines of support for this, you're a wackadoodle to Joe.
SPEAKER 05 :
John, I couldn't agree more. And one of the things I said, I always thought that one of the differences between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives had respect for the process. We felt that the end didn't justify the means, and if we couldn't get it done by the process, then we couldn't get it done. Those on the left, I believe, by and large, believe that whatever we have to do to achieve the means... The end justifies the means. The end justifies the means. Now, we've all seen the comments, and I just did my podcast with a bunch, like one down, three to go, referring to Cigna, Aetna, and Humana. He didn't do it. He was at our place playing Dungeon and Dragons when the shooting took place. If there was ever need for a GoFundMe campaign, this is it. How do we donate to it? Anyway, here's the latest thing. My daughter, who lives out in Pennsylvania, sent me this. The Altoona McDonald's, suddenly they went from, on Yelp, and I just checked, there's now 133 one-star negative reviews, and I just checked. All but five of those 133 were posted yesterday.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, Google went in and deleted all of those because the same thing was happening on Google. Yelp, Joe, even as a business owner, I'll tell you straight up, for those of you listening, if you use Yelp, shame on you. They are an evil extortion organization that does nothing but extort money out of businesses, and they should be shut down, Joe.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And of those 129 that were posted yesterday, when you look at where the posters are from, John, they're from Georgia. They're from Minnesota. They're from Phoenix.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. Not even nearby where they would have been there. But yet, my point is Yelp will leave those up because that's what Yelp does.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what Yelp does. And, John, there's these disgusting – and I actually checked. Here's a picture of their bathroom. Well, it's this disgusting, filthy bathroom picture like you'd expect to find in a gas service station restroom. And you can do what's called a reverse image lookup.
SPEAKER 04 :
I did.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's not a picture of their bathroom. It's a fake picture. Right. And these people are so vicious.
SPEAKER 04 :
And my point is they are, and yet Yelp is assisting them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Yelp is assisting them. So you've got 129 fake one-star. They're trying to put this poor franchise owner out of business because one of his employees did the right thing and called the police.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which they should have done.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, I would like to see what their foot traffic is like. I'll bet it's up. I bet you it's up, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
I bet you it's up, too. Now, by the way, believe it or not, Altoona is a college town, even though most people couldn't find it on the map. But Penn State actually has a satellite campus in Altoona. I got relatives there. I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Altoona.
SPEAKER 05 :
But most people, all these people who posted these negative reviews, I bet you if you gave them a map of Pennsylvania with no towns on it and said, Your life depends on putting this pin within 50 miles of Altoona. How many do you think would live?
SPEAKER 04 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 05 :
So anyway, but I just want to let you read that. The left is vicious and they're stupid. Oh, they're crazy. They're crazy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let me ask you, Joe, let me ask you and John a question really quick here before we go. Yeah. All these people who are speaking out in favor of the killer, Shouldn't they be deemed as dangerous people by the law immediately? Shouldn't somebody be tracking them down? Shouldn't somebody be looking at their devices? Shouldn't somebody be looking at their contacts? These are dangerous people. If these are people who are cheering on a murderer, what might they do?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they're actually more than cheering him on. They're actually advocating other people to do the same. Then they should be in prison.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's inciting violence.
SPEAKER 05 :
It absolutely is. It doesn't matter what. Now, I would expect, by the way, I would expect to see that sort of vicious support for this killer on the liberal websites. But you even go on Axios, which is supposed to be a politically neutral site. The liberals have taken over Axios. Right. I mean, I mean, 90 percent of the comments on Axios, which are supporting this guy, you know, let me put this way of of the. 480 comments that are on the most recent XO story, more than 90% are in fully support of this guy. Unbelievable. So it doesn't matter. And now if you go on the liberal websites, they're even more extreme. Those are where they're advocating killing the rest of these guys. But it's just sickening to me how low they will stoop. and how extreme they are in their views. I mean, dangerous.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Joe, appreciate it. Thank you for the update.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're welcome, guys.
SPEAKER 04 :
Take care. I appreciate you very much. Real quick, getting back to Dave Williams, I just want to tidy up and finish up what we were talking to Todd Watkins about, and that's this whole issue of what's going on in the Colorado GOP, which, yes, we've talked about a lot, and I hate to keep naming, you know, talking about Dave. We haven't done it for a while just because of the election and things that happened and so on, but... You know, I was really hard on Dave going into the election. I'm still going to be hard on Dave after the election because I think Dave is a charlatan. I think he's a crook. I think he's at the top of the list when it comes to cronyism. And the way I see Dave, and I was going to explain this to Andy during the break, but I said just wait and I'll do it on air. This is how I view Dave. You look back at Dave's history, where he came from, kind of worked in the family business of his wife down in Florida and so on, and then ended up coming to Colorado. And then he was a representative here, a state representative for a little while. And I had interviewed Dave a couple of times on air. He did a little bit of fill-in for somebody else at that time that we were interviewing. And I see Dave this way. He came to Colorado, got involved in Colorado politics, and realized that there was this faction, this hardcore, I don't even call them Tea Party Republicans, but this liberty movement in Colorado. And I think Dave got here and said, hmm, hmm, if I could somehow entrench myself in that, and surround myself with individuals that feel like they're like-minded. He sensed gullibility. Correct. And vulnerability. Correct. If I could get in there and get these people on my side and literally feed them what they want to hear. Because to Andy's point, they're very gullible. But if I could get in there and start doing the very things that they want, holy cow, I could be set up politically for life. Because not only could I throw in and end up being chair, but hey, while I'm at it, I'm going to go ahead and run for a house seat. Back to what Todd was saying, which, by the way, I firmly believe that's exactly what he wanted. Right. I mean this when I say it. There was a rift between he and Lauren Bober when Lauren decided to go from her district to four. Part of that rift, I believe, is because Dave wanted four. Right. He knew that would be an easier seat.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, we talked about that.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. And he knew that would be an easier seat to win. Instead, he had to go to five. He got beat handily in the primary in five. And we ended up actually winning that when it was all said and done four. Unfortunately, in spite of Dave, we actually won CD five and CD eight, by the way, and CD three without without that or, you know, in spite of Dave, we still ended up winning those. So ultimately, folks, here's my point. And those of you that are loyalists to Dave. I've said it many times. I'll keep saying it. You better watch your back. Because Dave is one of those guys that while he's hugging you, there's a knife waiting to stab you immediately. If you do something he doesn't like and isn't going the way that he wants it to go, he will cut you loose in a heartbeat.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. He's using you for his power. That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And those of you that think otherwise, I challenge you to prove me wrong.
SPEAKER 06 :
Dave preys on the... Okay, this is going to sound bad, and these people are going to get angry when I say it. I'm sorry, but I've seen too much of it online. He preys on the intellectually weak. Yep, the low IQ. And by the way, there are many brilliant people in the liberty movement. These aren't them. No. Okay? And how do I know this? Because they can't debate me online. You've seen me debate these people, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
Andy, they will call into this station and even debate us.
SPEAKER 06 :
Remember when Caller Ann called in and started just spewing lies? What did we do? We picked apart our lies. What about this? What about this? And just lie, lie, lie. The next day, we really took it apart. And it's just like, look. They lie their heads off. You expose them, and then what do they do? They run away. On my recent post where I detailed piece by piece by piece what they had done, what Dave and the state party had done, and I said, look. I challenged. I said, will somebody on that side please debate me?
SPEAKER 04 :
They can't.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Please. Come at me. Attack me. Come at me with a wrecking ball. Do what you can.
SPEAKER 04 :
Andy, that's why we've had open lines for I don't know how long, and any of them can call in ever here, but yet they don't.
SPEAKER 06 :
I put it on a dozen sites, and they can't do it. Why? Because Dave's supporters are completely incapable of defending anything Dave has done. That's right. They don't care.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 06 :
They only want rage. They only want anger.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, it's easier. This is another proof of it. Really quick, this is another proof. Go ahead. It's easier to debate Andy online because you can think and sit and type and even get suggestions on what to type. You can't do that on air, by the way, is why none of them, well, one did and doesn't do a very good job of defending him. But when it's all said and done, no one will call in and debate us on this.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, when they debate me, I guarantee you, they'll even get together in groups around a table and work on an answer to come back at me. I still cut them to ribbons. And I'm not bragging. You could do it too. Many could. Charlie could. A lot of people could. I'm not saying Andy is such a great debater. I'm saying they have no answers.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's because they have no facts to back it up, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
They can't defend any of what he's doing. These are power moves. They're unethical. They're terrible. And oh, by the way, they support a bunch of candidates who would have lost us the U.S. House.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. I mean, just awful. Yep. Those of you that are on that side supporting, again, I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, mark my words, be very careful because he's not your friend. No. He's not looking out for the best interest of you. He's not looking out for the best interest of Colorado. He is in it for one person and one person only, and that's himself.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had, and I'll close with this. One of their, I'm going to say highly placed people, and I will not say the name of this person. But she told me that the reason she supported, because I said, you can't answer this and this and this. You can't debate any. She said he was there for me at a time of need. He played on her emotions and she she reeled through the story of how he was there for her. and shed tears with her and helped her through a bad time. And that is why she supports him no matter what he does, even if she can't defend any of it. I'm telling you, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's blind loyalty.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that's blind loyalty, but think about it. I would never pray on someone's blind loyalty like that. I would look at them. Yeah, I want to be there for people in their time of need, of course.
SPEAKER 04 :
He does, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
But he does. It's like, for crying out loud, You're pledging blind loyalty to somebody because he was there for you in a time of need during a bad breakup?
SPEAKER 04 :
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And just to finish things off for this hour when it comes to the state party and what's going on and all of the things that really need to be changed. And I don't have a crystal ball, but it doesn't take much common sense to figure out that if we continue down this same path, despite what Dave and his supporters may think, it's over. It's done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're not going to win anything major. If they go down this path and remove us from the primary end of things, the primary election, we're done, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
We're finished. With these people in charge, if they actually got their way in our primaries, we right now would have already lost the U.S. House. By the way, let's keep in mind, Trump... increased his margin by 6.2% nationally against the Democrat, but in Colorado only by 2.5%. That means 60% of the red wave didn't hit here. That's what this kind of leadership does. It divides everybody and deflates them.
SPEAKER 04 :
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Time Doesn’t Shout – Part 5
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 607 aired on April 16, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes I’d like to ask you to stay with me. It's going to be a time of motivation, inspiration,
education, and we always do this without any type of manipulation. We don't try to hustle money.
We’re not asking you to join anything. We’re not trying to build a mailing list. We’re just simply
here to give you accurate information, hopefully information that will help you verify and
identify God's plan for your life. If you can do this, then you have the freedom and the privilege
to orient and adjust to the plan. That's my job, get it right, get it accurate, and give it to you in
such a way that it makes sense. Sometimes people tell me, “You didn’t tell me something I didn't
already know, but you put it in a way I've never really heard it put before.” I don't know what
this means except this is the way God gives me the ability to explain the Scripture to you. Just
like you, I must stay filled with the Holy Spirit. Just like you, I must grow every day in God's
Word. Just like you, I have a spiritual gift. My spiritual gift is the gift of evangelism, yours may
be a different spiritual gift. Some people have the gift of giving. Some people have the gift of
helps. Some people have the gift of mercy. Some people actually have the gift of pastor-teacher. I
don't know what your spiritual gift is, it’s not necessary for you to know it right now. I remember
when I discovered exactly what my gift was, what God had equipped me to do, why He left me
here, what my mission in life was. It is an exciting thing when you really understand this. We call
this a personal sense of destiny. It is a tremendous problem-solving device. Once you walk
through the door of your personal sense of destiny, you leave your agenda behind, and for the
first time you live your life on God's agenda. What is it God left you here to do? What does God
want you to do? This is a question you should be able to answer because we only have so much
time on this sin infested planet. While we’re here it is critical as humans that we adhere to certain
principles, certain concepts that are related to time as we live in time. If we hope to have
happiness while we travel through this sin infested planet we have to learn some things and this
is why we started teaching you these concepts that we went through on what time is it. We’re
dealing with the series on time. We’ve been doing a series of studies on time and I intended to
highlight several things that were necessary for you to make the most of your time that God gave
you in Phase 2 Time. Phase 1,
“Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”
(Acts
16:31), this is the time that you get saved. Phase 2 is what you do after you get saved. What's my
life about? Where am I suppose to live? What am I suppose to do? What am I suppose to think?
Then Phase 3 is eternity where there is
“No more tears, no more pain, no more sorrow. The old
things are passed away”
(Revelation 21:4). We’re not in Phase 3 yet. You're listening, I'm
talking, so we’re still here but in this Phase 2 situation, we've talked about being punctual. We've
talked about having patience. We've talked about what is a priority in your life. We've talked
about what's prudent or faithfulness. We've talked about your perspective in life. Then we got
into talking about God’s perspective. And as far as Paul was concerned, I gave you a verse last
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week. We talked about Paul's perspective and this is what Paul said if I look back at my notes. In
Philippians 3:8 he said,
“I count everything but loss except for the excellency of the knowledge of
Christ Jesus my Lord
[it’s all worthless].
For whom I’ve suffered the loss of all things. I count
everything but dung that I may win Christ.”
If I put it in a different translation called God's Word
Translation, it says,
“It's far more than that. I consider everything else worthless. I'm much better
off knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. It’s because of Him that I think of everything as worthless. I
threw it all away in order to gain Christ.”
In Paul's perspective, and remember Paul wrote over
half of the New Testament, self-confidence meant nothing. He lists what he could be confident in
if you wanted to and you have things in your life that give you new confidence. You could say,
“Well I've been a great church member and I've never missed church. I've been this, I've been
that. I've been a great, faithful tither. I have been faithful to raise my kids right. I've been faithful
to do this and do that.” We all have things that we’re proud of. We all have things that we think
would make us impressive to God. Some people say, “I’ve never smoked, I never drank, I've read
the Bible through every year.” Is God impressed with these things? Well, some of them are
certainly honorable things but listen to what Paul said.
“All these things in my past
[and he is
talking about the religious things that he had as he was raised to be a Pharisee],
I was
circumcised on the eighth day out of the stock of Israel from the tribe of Benjamin. I am a
Hebrew of all Hebrews and as touching the law, I'm a Pharisee”
(Philippians 3:4-5). These are
the people that gave the Lord Jesus Christ the biggest headache that He's ever seen. As a matter
fact in Matthew 23:33 He called them snakes and vipers. He had eight woes that He gave on
those Pharisees and scribes. You should read it and see because these were the people who
plotted his death. These were the ones that hated Him even though He came and He was God in
the flesh, and even though He demonstrated this by the miracles that He did, they hated Him.
They assassinated Him. They plotted His death. He told the disciples they were going to do this
and He told Jerusalem that He wept over Jerusalem. He said,
“I wish you could come to Me like
chicks to a hen, but you've walked away, you’ve rejected Me”
(Matthew 23:37). It was 40 years
later that Jerusalem was in fact destroyed under Titus, the Roman emperor in 70 A.D. Here is a
Pharisee, a self-righteous man, in Philippians 3:5-6,
“Concerning zeal I even persecuted the
early church
[he was there when they stoned Stephen],
concerning righteousness which is in the
Law, I was blameless
[in other words, I never violated the law at all].
I was circumcised the
eighth day
[this is infant baptism I guess].” “I obeyed all the laws [this is a moral, do-gooder]. I
had zeal for God.” This means he was very zealous, it doesn't mean he was accurate but he was
zealous and this is a tragedy. I’ve met a lot of zealous Christians in my life, people that are really,
“fired up for Jesus.” Have you ever met those sorts of people? “Hello brother,” I mean they are
so fired up for Jesus it’s scary, but they're not accurate. Many of them are not accurate.
The
spiritual life must be presented accurately and you don't live it on the basis of emotion.
You
don't run around all day long, “Hello brother, hello sister, it’s so great to see you. What a
wonderful day. Praise the Lord, amen, hallelujah.” Remember Apollos in Acts 18:24-28. He was
a very zealous preacher but he was not an accurate preacher. He was preaching John's baptism,
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he was not even aware that Christ had come and been crucified and resurrected. Aquila and
Priscilla had to pull him off to the side and it says,
“They expounded unto him the way of God
more perfectly.”
Here is the principle. It's entirely possible to have zeal for the Lord Jesus Christ
but to have inaccurate information regarding the spiritual life. Why is this possible? Because
Satan assaults truth on a daily basis. Here's what he wants to do. He wants to mislead you. If he
can mislead you by misinforming you, then you would be misguided and you will misrepresent
the plan of God to those that you come in contact with.
Misrepresenting the plan of God is a
dangerous thing because when you presume to speak for God, when you presume to tell
someone this is the way the Bible says you should do it and if it's not right and it’s not
accurate, you are misrepresenting God and misleading people.
This is what Satan never stops
doing 1. Satan assaults truth on a daily basis. 2. He never stops trying to lure you away from
truth by distracting you with issues that are nonessential, unimportant. 3. You must review your
perspective if you want to be an effective witness for Jesus Christ. This means, are you
accurately representing Him to the world? I was talking to a friend of mine the other day while
we were fishing and he is a fairly young Christian. He's excited about going to his church and we
were talking about some things. I just stopped the boat and I looked at him and I said, “Now let’s
assume I'm one of your friends and I'm not a Christian. I come to you and I tell you that I would
like to be saved like you are. Can you tell me how to be saved?” You won’t believe what he said.
He said to me, “Well, the first thing is you have to repent of your sins. You have to go to God and
admit your sins.” This is not correct. My sins were paid for on the cross. Your sins were paid for
on the cross.
Our sins are not the issue in our salvation. Our sins have already been paid for
on the cross.
What exactly is the issue? Let's go back to John 3:16.
“God so loved the world that
He gave His only begotten Son so that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have
everlasting life.”
What does 1 John 5:1 say?
“He that believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of
God.”
What does Acts 16:38 say?
“Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.”
The issue is always this,
“He that believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life”
and
“He that believes not, the wrath of God abides on him already”
(John 3:18).
The issue is
what do you think about Christ?
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the anointed Son of God?
Do you believe this? I asked a young man this one time. “Do you believe Jesus Christ is the
anointed Son of God?” And he looked at me and he said, “Well, I don't know how you could
rightly believe this.” This man was not saved. He is not a Christian. If you asked someone what
does it take to be saved? The answer should be simply, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of
God and I willingly accept Him as my Savior.” What is He saving me from? Well, He's paid for
my sin. He went to the cross and died for me. My judgment has been paid. God judged Him,
“He
that knew no sin was made sin for us so that we could be made the righteousness of God through
Him”
(2 Corinthians 5:21). If I want to be saved, I don't have to repent of my sin. I know I'm a
sinner. I know I've been sinful. I simply go to the Savior and as Romans 10:13 says,
“Whosoever
shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
I go to the Savior and express my faith in
prayer and I simply say, “Father, I believe Jesus Christ is Your Son and I am willing to accept
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Him as my Savior.” Some people add, “And make Him my Lord.” You can't make Christ Lord,
He is already the Lord. What you're simply saying is I want to follow Him. I want obey Him. I
want to be His disciple, His learner. I want to learn His Word. Well, that's good, that is what you
should do. When I asked this person this question, he wasn’t accurate and so we talked a little bit
about it. He understood this and then I asked him the second question. “Let's assume I am a
Christian and I want to be a good Christian, what should I do to be a good Christian?” The
answer again was wrong. “Well you should do this and do that and do this and do that.” By the
time the list runs out, I would go crazy trying to do everything because I know I couldn't do all
these things. What he didn't tell me, he didn't mention to me was that first of all, you have to
learn how to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
The first problem-solving device you must ever
learn is you still have a sin nature, you will commit sin, and you have to learn how to deal
with this sin because when you sin, you quench God the Holy Spirit and you grieve God the
Holy Spirit. You break fellowship with God in time, so God gave you a way to be cleansed.
This is simply if you go to 1 John 1:9 where it says,
“If we confess our sin, He is faithful and just
to forgive us of our sin and purify us from all of our wrongdoing.”
That's the way it goes.
If you
want to be filled with the Spirit you cannot have unconfessed sin in your life because if you
do, then you are out of fellowship with God and you cannot grow as a Christian.
Think
about the letter Z in your mind, picture Z for Zorro. Remember this, that the pastor
communicates the Word of God to you, this is the first part of the letter Z. If you go across the
top part of the Z, the Holy Spirit will capture what the pastor communicates. Now, if He's not in
control of your life because you have unconfessed sin in your life, He can't capture anything
because He’s quenched and He’s grieved. If He's not quenched and grieved because you've dealt
with any known sin in your life, then once He captures it, He can bring it to your mind where
you comprehend it. That's not all of it. This is the bottom part of the Z, now let’s go across the
bottom part of the Z. Once you comprehend it, then you have to comply with the information. So
this is the process for living the Christian life. The pastor communicates the Word of God, the
Holy Spirit captures it, you comprehend it and you comply.
As you grow, you learn to live like
Christ. The first thing you learn to live then is think a different way, to think in terms of
divine viewpoint and not human viewpoint.
This means,
“Let this mind be in you that was also
in Christ Jesus”
(Philippians 2:5). Romans 12:3,
“Stop thinking of yourself in terms of
arrogance beyond what you should think.”
God has a new way He wants you to think. He has
a new way He wants you to live. He wants you to live under grace and Biblical orientation.
He wants you to live under grace orientation and doctrinal orientation so that you begin to
exploit grace, you begin to live in grace, share grace, and you begin to study the Scripture
earnestly on a daily basis. Anyhow, it's not that complicated but if you tell me, “Well, you know,
you’ve got to go to church every Sunday.” Okay, I'll do that. “You’ve got to pray every day.”
Okay, I'll do that. “You have to read your Bible every day.” Okay, I'll do that. “Then you can't sin
you know.” Okay, what’s sin? Is eating an apple a sin? “Oh, eating an apple is sin.” What about
oranges? “Oh, you can’t eat oranges either,” and so you got all these little sins you can't do out
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here that are not in the Bible by the way. They are just sins that somebody doesn't like so they
throw them at you. Before long, you’ve got about 15 things you’ve got to do to be a good
Christian. This is not the Christian life. There is only one thing you’ve got to do, this is to stay
filled with the Holy Spirit. As you’re filled with the Holy Spirit then you will obey the mandate
to,
“Grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ”
(2 Peter 3:18).
Do you want to be a good Christian? Stay filled with the Spirit, get under the ministry of a
well-qualified pastor, listen to God's Word, and grow up. Apply what you learn.
What you
comprehend, you comply with. You have got to review your perspective if you want to be an
effective witness for Christ so that you can accurately represent Him to the world. You don’t
want to tell somebody, “Do you want to be saved?” “Yeah, I’d like to be saved. I’d like to go to
heaven.” “Okay, now here's what you’ve got to do. You’ve got to confess all your sins to God,
invite Jesus into your heart, repent of your sins,” and nobody can do all this stuff. This is not
what the Bible says. It’s simply,
“Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.”
Is
He the Son of God or is He not? Are you willing to accept Him as your Savior or are you not?
It's this simple. How do you accept Him?
“Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall
be saved.”
What am I suppose to believe?
“He that believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of
God”
(1 John 5:1). It's this simple. When it happens, what am I suppose to do?
“Grow in the
grace and knowledge of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”
I'm to be filled with the Holy Spirit
(Ephesians 5:18). Once we do these things, then we begin to effectively represent Christ to the
devil's world and you are dangerous. Satan won't like you for this. You have to reinstitute your
affections too by the way, get your affections right. What's your number one priority in your life?
This is my question for you today. Here's what Mark 12:30 says, or Deuteronomy 6:5 where it
came from,
“Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind,
and with all your strength.”
This is where your priority has to be, personal love for God. You
can't love Him if you don't know Him. Personal love for God you see is the motivation that
causes you to be obedient. Personal love for God is motivational virtue in your life. 1 John 5:3,
here's a test, you want to see it?
“This is the love of God, that we keep His mandates and His
mandates are not a burden.”
If you love God you will obey God.
You obey God because you
love Him, you don't want to disappoint Him. You love Him and you're going to do everything
you can to have His blessing and to hear Him say, “Well done.” In John 14:15 Jesus said,
“If you
love Me, you will keep My mandates.”
One of the great problems in the church at Ephesus in
Revelation 2:1-4 was this very thing. The Lord Jesus Christ said,
“The One who holds the seven
stars in His right hand, the One who walks among the seven golden lampstands says this.”
That’s Christ, He is speaking. He speaks to the church at Ephesus and to the pastor of the church
at Ephesus. Listen to His words,
“I know your deeds, your toil, and your patience, and that you
cannot tolerate evil men, and you put to test those who call themselves apostles but they’re not
and you found them to be false; and you have patience and you have endured for My namesake
and you've not grown weary. But I have this against you, you left your first love.”
See, here is a
letter of commendation but here's a point of condemnation,
“You left your first love,”
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motivation for why you do what you do. Listen to me today. Do you really love God? Because if
you really love God and you really appreciate God, you wouldn't do what you're doing right now.
You wouldn't allow yourself to be sucked into what you've allowed yourself to get into. You
would go to your Father right now and you would admit your sin. You would tell Him exactly
what's going on in your life and He will be faithful and just to forgive you. You will find out
where you can start getting some answers to why you do what you do and how you stop doing
what you do and how you can grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus
Christ. I can help you with these answers. I can give you information that will help you but I
can't give it to you if I don't hear from you, so keep this in mind. John now was directed to write
to the pastor of the church at Ephesus and those were the words of the Lord. This is a perfect
picture of how God's omniscience controls the direction in which the pastor leads his
congregation. He's directing him. “Wait a minute. You are doing all these things, all the right
things but you’re doing them for the wrong reasons.” See, this is how the Lord Jesus Christ
oversees and protects His body of believers called the Church. They are commended for their
hard work but they are condemned for their lack of love. Their issue that they had to deal with
wasn’t their skills. It was their motivation. Personal love for God should be your motivation for
everything that you do. Paul warned pastors and believers in Ephesus way before this was
written to be aware of the wolves, the canine clergy that would attack them as soon as Paul left
town. Listen to what he said in Acts 20:29.
“I know this, that after my departing shall grievous
wolves enter in among you, and they won't spare the flock.”
Their condemnation was not the lack
of faith or trust but the lack of occupation with Jesus Christ, this was the condemnation. They
were not occupied with Christ. Listen to 1 Peter 1:8,
“Even though you have not seen Him, you
love Him
[this is occupation with Christ]
and though you do not see Him now, but you believe in
Him, you greatly rejoice with inexpressible happiness and full of glory.”
These are the mandates,
to be occupied with Christ, to love Him. Hebrews 12:2
, “Concentrate on Jesus, the author and
the perfecter of our doctrine, who for the exhibited happiness He endured the cross and
disregarded the shame and sat down at the right hand of the Father.”
Do you want to focus on
something? Do you want to make something a priority in your life? Be concentrating on Jesus
Christ, the author and the perfecter of our salvation.
You concentrate on Christ by staying
filled with the Spirit and learning God's Word.
My very own pastor has been teaching a study
on the life of Christ. I would encourage you to get the study. By the way, we’re up to 1,000
hours, that's right, 1,000 hours in the life of Christ. You say, “How can anybody study the life of
Christ for 1,000 hours?” Get the tapes, listen, you'll see. You will learn so much like I have
learned. If you're occupied with Christ, you must know what He thought, what He did, where He
went, who He was, why He did these things. In 1 Peter 3:15,
“Sanctify
[or set apart as more
important than anything else]
the Lord Jesus Christ in your hearts.”
God makes a direct, positive
demand for you, a demand on your volition to be occupied with Christ. It's a mandate to be
consistent in the intake and the metabolization of His Word. Be occupied with Christ, set Him
apart.
When you choose to be occupied with Christ, it takes precedence over occupying
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yourself with people.
It takes precedence over being occupied with circumstances because
Christian fellowship is no substitute for occupation with Christ. Hence, you can have all the
social interaction with Christians you want but it's never a substitute for learning Bible doctrine
in your life.
This is the most critical thing for you, to be occupied with Christ, to have your
priorities in order so that while you are here in the devil’s world, then you're going to be
doing the right thing in the right way.
Remember this, God's protocol plan demands a right
thing be done in a right way. A right thing done in a wrong way is still obviously wrong but a
right thing done in the right way, that'll get you, “Howdy, well done My good and My faithful
servant.” Until next week, I hope you’ll come back and I hope you keep listening, but until next
week, I'm your host Rick Hughes saying thank you for listening to The FLOT Line
As the Christmas season approaches, Mike Gallagher invites his listeners to celebrate the festivities while contributing to a meaningful cause. Learn about the annual Angel Tree campaign and the tradition of baking Denise's preacher cookies, an homage to Mike's late wife. Amidst the holiday cheer, the episode tackles serious political and social issues with a focus on clarity and integrity, urging listeners to discern good from bad in a world filled with conflicting viewpoints.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
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Megyn Kelly wrote a column that points out how we are all saying thank God an awful lot these days. Since November the 5th, we have been saying it many, many times. Things are about to change in America for the good in the world, and it's already beginning. My gosh, yesterday's sort of shocking verdict from the jury in New York, not guilty for Daniel Penny, the Marine, who was just ridiculously charged with murder, manslaughter, homicide, whatever, by the corrupt district attorney of New York. What an outcome that was. I don't think anybody saw that coming. I think they figured they were going to have a hung jury. And yet the reality prevailed. Common sense kicked in, even to a New York City jury. Amazing. Amazing. And then came the revelation, it appears... that the murderer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO was nabbed in Altoona, Pennsylvania. I don't know about you, but this story stinks to high heaven. Oh, they found him with five IDs and thousands in cash and the gun. So he's so brilliant that he's sitting in a McDonald's days after the shooting. He's one of America's most wanted people. He's got all the tools of the crime with him in a McDonald's. And he's sitting there getting recognized by some McDonald's worker and two police officers, including a rookie officer from Altoona, Pennsylvania. None of his family turned him in? His parents? His friends? I mean, this is a smart kid. valedictorian, accomplished, popular, social, had a lot of people who knew him. Nobody called the cops when we saw the picture of him flirting with the girl in the New York City hostel. What? This is bizarre. I hate to go all conspiracy theorist on you, but this isn't adding up. The word patsy comes to mind. The word patsy seems to apply. And already, the few remarks he's made, he doesn't know where the cash came from. He claimed that the cops planted that. He apparently had a backpack that was designed to block cell phone calls. waves or whatever you call it from the cell phone. He said, no, that isn't true. It was waterproof. Look, something about this is weird. They're going to extradite this kid from Pennsylvania to New York. But I'm having a hard time accepting how we know everything about the guy now. Everything. He had back surgery that went awry. He had a beef with the health care industry. He hated the health care insurance companies. He was this. He was that. Within minutes of his arrest, they found him giving his valedictorian speech at school. They found all these. They got all these pictures of him. Meanwhile, what about the guy that tried to kill Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania? We don't know anything about him. What about him? What was his story? He nearly assassinated the 47th president, the 45th and the 47th president of the United States. That story's gone. No information. They killed him. It's over. Nobody, no interest in that guy. But this guy, oh, we know everything about him. We've got pictures. We've got videos. We've got his – they've still got – I think his ex-account is still up. Elon Musk apparently doesn't want to take it down. They started to take it down, but it's still there. And it's fascinating to scroll through his posts because, look, this guy is smart. This guy is super intelligent. He's an Ivy League grad. He's wealthy. He's, you know, got the chiseled body in a McDonald's. I don't know how many people that look like him eat Big Macs. This is a weird, weird story. And I wonder if you feel the same way I do. 1-800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Something about this stinks to high heaven. It's too convenient. It's all too tidy. And it's the one thing that I can't get over. Nobody in his circle recognized that picture, recognized him from the widely circulated picture. A rookie cop in Altoona, Pennsylvania recognizes him, but not his own family. Apparently his family owns a talk radio station, I think, in Baltimore, Maryland. His family's wealthy. I think his mother's a doctor. And the kid is super smart. I say kid. What is he, 26? He is super, super intelligent. I mean, he's talking about on his social media feed, AI and, you know, the metamorphosis of the physiology of the human condition. I mean, this kid is really smart. So I don't know. I've got to turn it over to you. You think he acted alone? You think he had any help? You think he pulled this off all by himself because of his back problems? Yeah, well, if he had back problems, considering where he's headed for the rest of his life, he's going to have a lot of back problems. 800-655-MIKE. Welcome in. It's Tuesday, October, December the 10th. We're 15 days from Christmas, and oh my gosh, I'm afraid we're not going to get our prison fellowship goal. We're almost at 3,000 kids. We've got to get to 5419. Oh my goodness, do I need your help. Please go to mikeonline.com. Come on, help us out. Help these kids out, kids who have a parent in prison. It's the annual Mike Gallagher Show annual Angel Tree campaign where your $30 donation can bless a child with a Christmas gift, a personal note from their mother or father in prison, and a Bible. You're going to save lives. You're going to make a difference in these children's lives. Already we've got almost 3,000 kids sponsored. We're at 2,965. But, boy, we have a big goal. We've got like over 5,400 kids, and we've only got 15 days until Christmas. Please go to MikeOnline.com and make a donation, $30,000, $300,000, $3,000, whatever you can do to bless these children. Please go to MikeOnline.com, or you can give them a call. You can call directly, 888-206-2788. But the best way to do it is to do it online, mikeonline.com. Let's bless Christmas. Let's bless these kids with Christmas, won't you? And again, I need you. If you love what we do, if we love you, we need your help. 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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
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I appreciate the clarity of people like Scott Jennings from CNN who filled in for me last week for a day. That was pretty cool. By the way, pardon me, I'm just testing Denise's preacher cookie recipe. My Denise, every Christmas, had a recipe for something she called preacher cookies. It was handed down by her mom, who got it from her mom in West Virginia. And they're bakeless cookies. You don't bake them. They're so good. They're so rich. Dr. Ashley Lucas is going to have me in timeout because they're not PhD compliant. Look, it's Christmas. When you're on PhD weight loss, you know what to do. And my life now, I will be monitoring carefully what I eat. And sometimes if you go a little overboard, you get back on the bandwagon, you know what to do. Tracy's, I think, posting the recipe at mikeonline.com. They're so good. It's like chocolate and vanilla and oats. And again, bakeless, so you don't cook it. You just whip it up and you'll see on the recipe. Anyway, it's a Christmas tradition that we always like to share. And we honor my late wife with her wonderful recipe, the preacher cookies. And my kids, we always eat them. And so I made a little batch last night, just tried a couple. I can't make them as good as she did, but they're pretty good. You can go to mikeonline.com. Look, we're in the Christmas season. We're 15 days away from Christmas. We're 15 days from, you know, one of the most important commemorations in our country celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ. And In that Christmas spirit, I want to go back to what Scott Jennings said last night on CNN. And that is kind of going back to the basics. I am completely befuddled by people who don't seem to recognize the difference between good and evil. We have two huge stories. Two huge stories. Yesterday, a Manhattan, New York jury... acquitted Daniel Penny, the Marine, who was the Good Samaritan on the subway, should have never, ever... Look, there are already calls for Alvin Bragg to resign. It was a shameful charge. It was wrongheaded. It was unwarranted. It was a cynical prosecution. It was ridiculous. And even a New York jury saw it. You know, New York has juries capable of coming up with 34 felony convictions of the 45th and soon to be 47th president of the United States. And Alvin Bragg saw fit to try to lock up this Marine for being a hero. He's a good guy, okay? And as Scott Jennings, as you're about to hear on a clip that I want to play for you, Scott Jennings had to write a chart on CNN. Here's the good guy, Daniel Penny. Here's the bad guy, Luigi Mangione, who is charged with brutally assassinating the UnitedHealthcare CEO. He's not a good guy. He's a bad guy. Check out what Scott Jennings said last night on CNN.
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I want to bring in the politics of this because when I hear lawmakers hailing Penny as a hero, as a good Samaritan, really being promoted, can you help me understand the thinking? We started at the top of the show talking about the killer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO being hailed in similar terms.
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Yeah, let me just help you understand. If you're on the American left tonight... Here's my chart. The good guys today, Daniel Penny. The bad guys, Luigi Mangione. It seems to me... How do you... Everybody on the left... What's the chart for victims? I'm just telling you what I see out in the world.
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I know, I know. I just want you to finish the chart. Which victim is good and which victim is bad?
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What I'm telling you is... That's not on the second page? People on the left... People on the left can't seem to tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys.
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I'm not actually asking you about people on the left. I'm asking you whether you consider this person. I want to know whether you think that, as Congressman Crane does, that Daniel Penny should get the Congressional Gold Medal to recognize his heroism. I'm not asking you about anyone else.
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I think he ought to get a medal. I think he ought to build a statue to this guy in New York City.
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And I'm going to say it. I'm going to say the dreaded R word. Race plays a role in this. Right. And so we see it. Yes, absolutely. Because wasn't there a similar case in New York City? Statistics say that when people kill people who are white, they tend to get harsher sentences, especially if they're people of color. What about the Jordan? That is what happened. in our criminal justice system. No, I'm not going to stop because race absolutely plays a role in this.
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I said, what about the Jordan Williams case here in New York? Same situation. African-American gets on a subway, ends up killing a guy. Grand jury tosses it out at the exact same time as the penny.
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That's different.
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That's different. Yeah, there is a difference. The guy who stabbed the... criminal on the subway in New York to death was black. Daniel Penny is white. This is unbelievable. I feel like I'm going crazy listening to these conversations. So Scott Jennings writes a real simple chart. Hey, newsflash. Luigi Mangione is a bad guy. Newsflash, Daniel Penny is a good guy, and that leads to a debate? Did you hear the pushback he got? What about the victims of health care recipients who get denied coverage? What? Can you imagine, hypothetically, the head of the IRS being assassinated and people sitting around justifying that assassination because we don't like paying taxes or we don't think taxes are fair? Do I think that half of Americans not paying any federal income tax at all, getting the benefit of roads and infrastructure and all the great things that Americans get, and half of Americans or more pay no federal income tax? Do I think that's fair? No. Do I want anybody at the IRS harmed because of it? Of course not. Nobody likes the price of groceries. Do I think it's fair that poor people have a hard time buying eggs or bread or butter or milk in the grocery store? No, it's bad. It's terrible. That's a big reason why Trump won. We've got to fix this. We've got to turn this economy around. Do I want grocery store owners killed? And there's a guy on CNN, the one lone conservative that they let speak on that network, who writes a chart. Daniel Penny, good guy. Luigi Mangione, bad guy. Oh, what do you mean, Scott? That's a debate? There's an argument to that? My gosh. Look, Megyn Kelly wrote a great article on her site, megynkelly.com, talking about Daniel Penny being found not guilty. She said, I think all of us are feeling the same thing. First, thank God. And second, how on earth was he charged in the first place? She writes, here's what Megyn Kelly said. This feels like divine intervention because that thug, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, brought these charges where they should have never been brought to begin with. And then, as his case was falling apart Friday, he refused to accept a mistrial when the jury was hung. Megyn says... Thank God is something we are thinking a lot these days. And a lot of us have said that since November 5th many, many times. I believe she's right. But I've got to ask you, what is with the difficulty in knowing who the good guys are and the bad guys are? This feels biblical. It's like good is portrayed as evil. Evil is characterized as good. Up is down. Look at a debate on CNN over who the good... Do you have any doubt that Daniel Penny is the good guy? And Luigi Mangione is the bad guy? Are you struggling with that? Can you tell me what the struggle is, please? Welcome in to a Tuesday episode of the Mike Gallagher Show here in the Relief Factor Studios. 800-655-MIKE. We've got 15 days to go until Christmas. And I want to get your voice front and center on this caller-driven show. 800-655-MIKE. Call or text us. 800-655-6455. Incidentally, if you want us to text you back Denise's recipe for the famous preacher cookies that we tell you about every Christmas season, just text the keyword DENISE to 800-655-MIKE. That's the MyPillow text line. We'll send it back to you free of charge. Standard text messaging rates may apply. Please never text and drive. Just text the keyword DENISE. to 800-655-6453. We'll send it back to you or you go to mikeonline.com to see it. I'm telling you, you'll thank me later. These cookies are good. And it's always a, it keeps my Denise in my heart when we tell you about her preacher cookie recipe. Again, just text Denise to 800-655-MIKE or go to mikeonline.com. Do you have a problem with calling Daniel Penny the good guy and Luigi Mangione, the guy accused of gunning down the health care executive, the bad guy? 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The Altoona cops show up. The rookie cop in Altoona, he recognizes him. Oh, and they've already revealed the contents of his manifesto. He believed killing the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, was a symbolic takedown and a direct challenge to the healthcare company's corruption and power games. He was upset about the profits of health care companies. Now, the irony of this is the wealthy family this kid comes from. You think he got an Ivy League education just for free? Family owns apparently a radio station. I think his mother's a doctor. This kid came from a privileged, wealthy background. And speaking of the MyPillow text line, how about this comment? Luigi is what happens when you take a spoiled, soft-headed, entitled brat and run him through the socialist programming of an Ivy League university. Oh, wow, didn't see this coming. Thank God for the MAGA movement. Yeah, thank God. We're saying that a lot these days. But something about this doesn't seem right. Christian Russell on our team feels the same way as me. Now, look, I'm going to probably get flack for it. You're going to think I'm a conspiracy theorist. Nah, there's something too pat about this. The word patsy comes to mind. There's something bizarre about, oh, he's got the same clothes. Oh, look at the backpack. He didn't lose the very distinguished looking or distinguishable backpack. Now they're reporting it was the backpack that did him in. That somebody recognized the backpack as the same backpack that had been in all the surveillance photos. Oh, he doesn't ditch the backpack? No, no. He doesn't even get rid of the murder weapon. He's sitting in a McDonald's. Oh, and then when the police said, have you been to New York lately? He suddenly got quiet and began trembling and shaking. Nah, there's something stinks to high heaven about this case. There's something that doesn't add. And incidentally, what do you know about the monster who tried to assassinate Donald Trump? What do you know about him? What do you know? What are the details of that creep's life? Oh, we don't even know. Bet you don't even know his name. But everybody knows this guy's name now, huh? But the guy who crawled up on the roof and nearly took Donald Trump's head off, oh, we don't know much about him. He went away. He faded away. Not a lot there. But this guy, oh, we know. We got his valedictorian speech. Look at him. There he is on the stage giving a speech. Oh, yeah. Now we know exactly what he's all about. We know he had a back surgery and he was in pain. He didn't like the way the health care system, I guarantee you he didn't have any financial troubles coming from the background this kid came from. And, you know, I thought they found the backpack in New York Central Park. Oh, what, did he have multiple backpacks? The same kind of backpack? Oh, and he had a manifesto and he praised the Unabomber? Charlie Kirk is right. This story makes zero sense. We're supposed to believe that this guy's wearing the exact same clothes that are all over the Internet, all over the media... Somebody wrote, this has to be the most cartoonishly convenient arrest in history. Would he pay for the Big Mac with a credit card in his own name? Maybe he wrote, I did it, and scribbled that on a Happy Meal box. He's either the world's most incompetent criminal, or someone really wants us to believe they wrapped this case up with a nice little bow. So what is the real play here, somebody posted on social media? Is this guy a patsy? Or did he just take dumb criminal to a whole new level? Something about this is not, it doesn't pass the smell test for me. But maybe it does for you. Let's find out. Trish is in Gastonia, North Carolina. Hey, Trish, Merry Christmas. Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Thank you, Mike. Now, you're dead on. There's something really fishy about that whole situation there. That's not adding up. Nope. But on the whole penny thing, I'm thankful for that acquittal. I think the evil has been in four years now, and I think the tide has turned. Things are looking up now.
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It just feels like something is different, Trish. You're so right. There's something in the air. Everybody's got an extra spring in their step. And I think November 5th did it. Would Daniel Penny have been acquitted if Kamala Harris had won the presidency? There's a lot of strange political overtones to all that's going on around us. But I completely agree with... with Megyn Kelly, who said, we're all saying thank God an awful lot these days. Zachariah in Colorado Springs. Hi, Zachariah. How are you? I'm good, Mike. How are you doing? Good, good. What's up?
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Okay, so as far as I understand, they always say you can't yell fire in a theater, and that's illegal. But yet you can yell, I'm going to kill you in a subway, and suddenly it's justified due to race. Park Newsom and them are all pushing. But in my opinion, it's the same thing.
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As far as the guy that died in the subway when he scuffled with Daniel Penny, he was— Yeah, exactly.
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There's women and children on the subway. They can go nowhere. And on the video, he's yelling, I'm going to kill somebody. Somebody takes action. So the guy yelling, I'm going to kill somebody, that's the same as yelling fire in a theater. But why is he the innocent guy that just dances on the street for spare change?
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How does this Black Lives Matter leader, Hawk Newsom, get away with calling for violence in the streets as a result of the acquittal? How does he not get arrested?
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Well, what I don't understand is Hawk Newsom's pushing, oh, because we're loud. It had nothing to do, you can be as loud as you want to on a subway. But what you can't do... is say, I'm going to kill you, and there's multiple targets in the place, and when someone takes action, sets him in his place, and he dies, just again, the same thing with the George Floyd thing, drugs in his system, long criminal record, suddenly he's the angel that got caught in the crossfire, and Daniel Penney's the vigilante. That doesn't even make any sense in any world to me.
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Don't you love how the media describes Jordan Neely on the subway as a subway rider?
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Oh, yeah, and then they always got a show like his junior high.
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Oh, I know. This guy's a classic. This guy's a doozy. He's the head of BLM. I think he appeared on Fox News a while ago, didn't he? I think he sat down and gave an interview to them. I mean, check out this guy after Daniel Penny was acquitted yesterday.
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We need some black vigilantes. That's right. People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud? How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us?
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How about another doozy BLM leader, someone named Shavonna Newsom? Shavonna Newsom. Is she married to Hawk? Are they like a husband and wife? team of haters, of lunatics. I guess her name is Shavonna Newsom. Did you guys bleep this, incidentally? Because I don't like the expression GD on the air. I don't know if you bleeped that or not. I don't want to take any chances. Let's review that clip. She essentially said, I hope that the white people of America have a wonderful Christmas as the Jordan Neely family mourns. And then she said, GD them and GD America. Yeah, that's great. And this is the kind of rhetoric that passes for discourse in New York City and beyond. The left, they're nuts. These are nuts. These are kooks. And if you need Scott Jennings of CNN to tell you that Daniel Penny is the good guy and Luigi Mangione is the bad guy, you've got to get to a counselor, get to your pastor, look in the mirror, and take stock in your life because something's wrong. Something's wrong with you. 800-655-MIKE. One open line. Actually, two open lines right now. 800-655-6453.
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I remember he said he had a back issue and he was hoping to get stronger in Hawaii. So he's always focused on trying. When he first came, he went on a surf lesson with other members. And unfortunately, just a basic surf lesson, he was in bed for about a week. We had to get a different bed for him that was more firm. And I know it was really traumatic and difficult. You know, when you're in your early 20s and you can't do some basic things, it can be really, really difficult.
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Yeah, it can be very difficult. And that could lead you to getting a gun and creeping up behind a beloved father and husband and pumping bullets into his back. Because you've got, you know, back pain. I mean, and you know, they caught him yesterday. He had the manifesto, the gun, the same clothes he's been wearing evidently all week. Just like that, presto. So we're supposed to believe all that. You buying all this? I'm going to get... chided for being a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist, but I want to get this straight. We're supposed to believe that this hitman, this killer, was caught five days after the murder, still wearing the same clothes from the crime scene, still with the murder weapon, and a written manifesto and cash, multiple fake IDs, all while chilling at McDonald's. Just like it's another day. Somebody described this as the most cartoonishly convenient arrest in history. Did you see the first report about how they, something to do with a, he used a fake ID in McDonald's? What do you need an ID in McDonald's for? Who uses an ID at McDonald's? Look, I've been to every McDonald's in America three times each. I've never had to present my ID anywhere. I'm on a first-name basis with every worker at McDonald's everywhere in America. They don't ask for your ID for what? And, oh, somebody in the McDonald's recognized the backpack. Wait a minute, I thought they found the backpack in Central Park back in New York City. So is this guy a patsy, or is he just the world's stupidest criminal? Oh, he took his mask down to flirt with the girl in the hostel. Oh, look at him shining his big pearly whites at the girl behind the counter. Oh, that's how they got him. And I have to say, I am a big supporter of law enforcement. They're claiming that he wasn't even on their radar until they got the call from McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania yesterday. So wait a minute. That picture of him that went worldwide... didn't spark any flicker of recognition from his family, his wealthy, privileged family. Apparently they own a radio station. They're very wealthy. The mother's a doctor or something. I mean, he's got an Ivy League education. He's popular. He was the school valedictorian. And nobody in his school recognized him. You saw the picture everywhere with that big smile. Real clear shot of his face, right? And nobody apparently recognized him until some guys that get together at McDonald's every day. One of the guys, one of the men in the group said, that looks like the shooter. And then they called the police and the Altona police show up. And the rookie cop says, well, that looks like the shooter. And then they asked him, hey, Luigi, have you been to New York recently? Oh, and then he got nervous. And then he started trembling. That's our shooter. And look what he's got on him. Look, he's got a gun. Oh, my goodness. He's got the manifesto where he expressed admiration for the Unabomber. Uh-huh. Yep. This doesn't pass the smell test, at least not to me. What did he do? Did he write a check for his hash browns and they needed an I.D.? ? And have you seen the pictures and the eyebrows? And people are texting me saying, yeah, look at the eyebrows. He's got like a unibrow in one picture and in the other picture, not so much. None of this makes a lot of sense. Maybe it does for you. Welcome aboard. Let's get your thoughts on all of it. Our number is 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. We're in the Relief Factor studios for a Tuesday, December the 10th, 15 days before Christmas Day. Great to have you with us.
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Amidst humor and critical commentary, Dana explores the profound implications of controversial political topics. We explore a contentious nativity scene adorned with unexpected symbolism and its political ramifications. Plus, stay tuned for Dana’s famous Quick Five segment where she rapidly yet insightfully tackles a range of topics from declining college enrollment to the potential economic impacts of Trump’s political moves. Concluding with a deep dive into the Vatican's latest controversy and consumer advice on concealed carry weapons, this episode is packed with insights and bold opinions.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
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It's time for Florida Man.
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Hmm. Alright, so... There's a couple here. I always like going for the weirdest ones first. Well... Let's do... I'm going to do the bug one. I'm going to do this one. Florida was arrested at Disney Springs after he got drunk during... No, wait. What is this? It was a show? Oh, it was... House of Blues. Oh, it was the House of Blues. Okay. Because it says at Hawthorne Heights show. I'm like... So, you're telling me a guy got drunk at a nightclub? Yeah. And they're like, wow, he's in trouble. Is that right? Ryan Tomasco, 38. He was arrested for trespass, disorderly conduct and resisting an officer without violence. So this is all the way back in August. But apparently they're all doing this now. He got kicked out of this House of Blues show for being drunk. And. OK, so why is this news? so this is like the in front of kids who's got their kids at a nightclub that's like taking your damn baby to a bar not like a no let me rephrase that to a tavern there's a bar and then there are taverns y'all know what I mean right there's a difference it's like having your baby in a tavern know what I'm saying like why would you bring your kids to a club you know where people are going to be drinking and listening to a lot of music why I don't get it and they're shocked when a guy drank and was falling all over the place Look, my grandparents used to run a bar. Sorry, a tavern. I saw many a drunk person get thrown out of it. Just saying. I don't know. Like, you're shocked. I mean, he shouldn't have fought with the officer, but I don't know. I don't know what I think about that one. Let's see. This... Oh man, we're running out of time. Okay, I'm going to have to tell you about the scumbag Florida realtor tomorrow. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, All Family Pharmacy has you covered. Whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support, or general well-being, All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages. designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10. We were talking about... We played this last hour, Audio Soundbite 7, but Taylor Lorenz, when she was... Taylor Lorenz, she's like some 50-year-old who pretended that she was 30. So it seemed less ridiculous if she wrote about Taylor Swift. And she's... She got fired from Vox or something like that. No one can – I don't know what her appeal is other than she's a good avatar for the stupidity on the left and it makes for content that you can work around. But there were enough people on the left that said that they enjoyed or that they celebrated or that they felt joy over –
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watching the ceo be gunned down in the middle of the street listen to this i'll do something seven i think that's why i i felt along with so many other americans joy unfortunately you know because it feels like serious i mean joy the man's execution maybe not joy but certainly not no certainly not empathy because again we're watching the footage how can this make you joyful
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This guy's a husband.
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He's a father.
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And he's being young down in the middle of Manhattan.
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Why is that making joyful Americans that be murdered? So are tens. So are the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one push a policies of denying.
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She's like somebody who read one missive, one essay about health insurance in college. And now she thinks she's an expert. What is she even talking about? So because she doesn't like the way health insurance works, and by the way, health insurance is that way because you stupid morons, the Taylor Lorenzes of the world, make it that way. We could have it be portable. We could have it to where you could make insurance companies compete and you could purchase across state lines, et cetera, et cetera, carry it with you wherever. But you know who fought against that? Democrats did. Democrats fought against it. They were the ones who barred that. That was Republicans that were trying to make that happen before Obamacare was passed. They had like 13 other proposals for all the people who get out there and say Republicans had no proposals to Obamacare. Those people who say that aren't educated enough to be included in this big kid conversation. The people who say that didn't pay attention enough to their own government. And so they need to stay out of this conversation and let people who do know what happened actually continue on the merits of fact. Because there were 13 alternatives to Obamacare, and every single one of them were shot down by Democrats who controlled everything. And numerous proposals included the portability, you know, keeping it untethered from your work. It's asinine that your job has to provide you with your health insurance. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. You should be able to get it for yourself. It should be affordable. And you should be able to use it like you do car insurance or something. The other reason is people use insurance wrong. That drives up the cost, too. The dumb Taylor Lorenzes of the world. 50 years old, and you act like a 15-year-old bimbo. I don't get it. Like, what the hell is wrong with you? Like, arrested development, that one. Oh, I don't feel bad. Make sure you quote me accurately, Media Matters, and then please make note that I don't have enough middle fingers to give you salutes. You George Soros lotion boys. Anyway. It's true. Let's be real. This... Joy that you feel you created the situation. He's just running one of the companies and you created the regulations in which he has to operate. You created the framework. He has to operate in that framework. Why are they mad? They're mad because of what they created. They're mad because they don't like the conditions of insurance. They're mad because they made it a hellscape. Just so dumb. And Obamacare is trash. It absolutely is trash. But that's what, you know, and the other difference, and Cain noted this, to even compare the health care CEO to Jordan Ely is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. The CEO had no idea what was happening. He was walking in a different direction. And this cowardly trust fund socialist came up behind him and shot him. Jordan Neely was threatening to murder people. In their faces. After he's already tried to murder people. So this is just not even. This is so goofy. But they felt joy. They felt joy. I bet she would have felt joy. I bet if they watched, if there had been footage of Jordan Neely... threatening to kill people and getting in the faces of these women, scaring the babies that were on the subway train, on the subway car. I bet that the Taylor Lorenzes of the world would have felt joy at that too, wouldn't they have? Because they're psychos. Would they have felt joy watching a mother try to shield her child as Jordan Ely was screaming about how he was going to kill them all? Does that get them off? It makes me wonder. These people are that messed up. How messed up are you that you actually have that enthusiasm? over that kind of stuff. These people have a screw loose. And I'm not talking about the Jordan Ely's. I'm talking about like the CNN lady and this bra that we just played on Piers Morgan's whatever. What the hell is the matter with you? You soulless cretins. Y'all need Jesus and a Bible for Christmas. That's what y'all need. Good night. It's just aggravating. It actually makes me enraged. Our partners over at Kel-Tec, the P15, it's the lightest and it's double stacked 9mm on the market. I actually had somebody who was, they're getting their concealed carry And they've never carried before. And they were asking me what they should get. It's a woman. Never carried before. She's asking me what she should get. And I was recommending to her a few things. And I said, honestly, the lightest, thinnest, the most concealable 9mm is Kel-Tex P15. It really, truly is. And I have every, I think I have every compact pistol you can think of. The Kel-Type P15, 9mm. It's a 1.27 inches wide, 4 inch barrel. And it ships with two standard capacity magazines. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So the Guardian, which is a left leaning POS over in Britain, says that the college enrollment rate is falling at a concerning or the college enrollment levels dropping at a concerning rate. Fewer 18 year olds are enrolling, especially at four year schools. But the number of applications continues to grow. I think there needs to be a reworking of the college system entirely. I think it's absolutely stupid. It's a racket. I think that they try to charge you thousands of dollars to take stupid, idiotic humanities classes that do nothing to enrich one's mind, further one's education, or have anything to do with their major at all whatsoever. And I think that if any college receives any kind of federal money and they require these students to take these stupid courses as part of their education, what their degree coursework, they should be penalized personally. I mean, honestly, it's really as stupid. The way we run higher education is one of the dumbest aspects of this country. It really is. And thanks left. Thanks for doing that. Thanks for consolidating all of the tuition and the loans and driving up costs for everybody. Tokyo adopts a four day work week because they're desperate that women have more kids. They do have a huge issue over there as it relates to their population size. Their population growth has been super slow. They said their fertility rate plummeted to a record low of 1.2 in 2023. Super low fertility rate. So they're implementing a four-day work week for their employees beginning next year, offering them three-day weekends and family-friendly options. And they said that they have to do it to support families. Also, you know, it's a cultural thing and an economic thing. If you could have more families live comfortably on one income, you would probably see more. If you had lower taxation and less government spending... you would probably see more able to make that choice. And I think that not just here in the United States, but I think that that goes for any country, anybody, because this is something that's affecting everybody around the world. Here they go. Here they're setting up the narrative. Telegraph, another left-leaning POS in Britain. America's economy risks massive Trump slump. They're setting Trump up. I told you this was going to happen. We both told you. Cain and I told you. We talked about this, Cain, what, for weeks. They're going to do this. They said here's the first sentence. Donald Trump risks tipping the U.S. in a recession if he follows through with the promises made on the campaign trail. So for Republicans, here's why Doge is going to have and we'll talk more about this. Here's why Doge is going to have its work cut out for them. If even if they were to suggest all of these cuts to Congress, Congress still has to vote to implement them. That's number one. Number two. You see these headlines? That's just the start of it. If you have Republicans actually commit to austerity and reduce government spending and lower taxes, they are going to hammer the GOP with headlines like these. Absolutely. They're going to hammer them with these headlines. And look what happened in Greece when they just tried to implement austerity. People were riding in the streets. So, just saying. That's something to think about. This... Study says regularly posting on social media may worsen mental health in adults. Oh, I completely agree that. I completely agree with that. In fact, there's most adults, I think, on social media, not us, but everybody else. I think that they live up to this headline hype. Stick with us. I don't know if you saw the creche where they have like this. It's sort of like a giant diorama. I don't know how else to put it. It's usually like a biblical story laid out in a scene. It's like a 3D thing. It's called a creche. And with Pope Francis, apparently, I guess they put one up and pulled this up. He inaugurated a new nativity scene, Southern Missouri. I call it nativity, called Bethlehem 2024. It's in the lobby of the Vatican. Now, okay, that all sounds well and good, right? You've got a nativity in the lobby of the Vatican. I've been in the lobby of the Vatican. It's a huge, huge area. So they put this, and Juan's showing you the photo of it. Notice something in the photo that Juan's showing you. What is the baby Jesus laying on? He's laying on one of them Hamas picnic blankets. And it's a symbol of the pro-Hamas folks. And I guess it's part of the whole setup. What? What? Yeah, Jesus was so totally Jewish. Jesus was a Jew. Jesus was Jewish. They called him rabbi for crying out loud. He was Jewish. Why is he laying on a pro Hamas picnic blanket? And the creche. And, oh, guess who was with the Pope when he unveiled that? It was the PLO, the Palestine Liberation Organization Executive Committee member, Ramzi Khoury. And he was there on behalf of Mahmoud Abbas, the PLO president, Mahmoud Abbas. Huh. And Corey thanked Pope Francis for his unwavering support of the quote-unquote Palestine. I don't like to say Palestine or Palestinian because it's a fake place and a made-up ethnicity. So I don't like saying that because it is. It's not supported by biblical history. It's not even supported by the Koran. It's not supported by any religious text. 2,000 years of antiquity don't support it as a singular place or an ethnicity of people. So Gaza. I like to say Gaza. Gaza, that's a correct... term for that geographical area. And their government is literally Hamas, like they voted for them. So pro-Hamas, it's accurate. So they had, Corey thanked Pope Francis for his support of the Gazan cause. And they want to end the war on Gaza that their government started. Their government started the war, killed a bunch of people. I just find it, I'm just shocked. That's who the Pope had with him. The Pope had him with him. There, unveiling this creche. What? Are you, really? That's who he had with him. Cain, what are you typing? Just say it. Say it, don't spray it.
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No, I was just saying, I'm not sure Jesus ever had a, are they called those keffias?
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Yeah, I call them picnic blankets.
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Picnic blankets. I'm not sure Jesus ever owned one at any point in his life.
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Yeah, it's not historically accurate.
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It's a tough one to get my mind around.
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I mean, it's just kind of weird that he has the Hamas, you know, Gaza guy there with him. And they're like, yes, you know, thank you for trying to end the war on Gaza. What do you mean the war on Gaza? Gaza had a war on Israel. Your elected government did it. Hamas. You still have babies in captivity. The hell are you talking about? Oh, the war on Gaza. All you had to do was release the hostages. You walking mental abortion. All you had to do was release the hostages. That's it. Oh, but you didn't want to. So now what? What are people supposed to do? My gosh, if someone busted into my house and kidnapped members of my family, I would literally boil everyone associated with it in acid after I flayed them publicly on my front yard. Oh, I'm not joking. I would go further. See, I need cane sidebar sidebar. I need to be in charge of torture. Yeah. So, but Dana, we live in a Republic. This is why I can't be a president because I come up with fun jobs like this ministry of torture. Me, just me, just me, just make it with me. And it can end when I leave. But I would be really good at this. So good at this. I have a particular set of skills, okay? I have some skills. You want to know what my skills are? I can do a cat eye liquid liner like nobody's business. I can do it in three motions. I'm so good. Number one. Number two. Ski ball. Oh, my gosh. If it was an Olympic sport, I will win so many gold medals for our country. I can get 100s all day long. Boom, boom, boom. I'm so good at it, right? So I got a particular set of skills. I can do things. I can parallel park in two moves. Anything. Give me a semi. I'll parallel park it. I have weird skills. I have crazy skills. weird trivia, a crazy weird trivia mind. So I can do, if you have really weird trivia nights, I'm your, I'm like your, you know, I'm your ringer. Bring me in. Can't fold a fitted sheet. You know, can't do that. Um, you know, but there's other things I can do well, but those are some of my top skills. Right. And, um, I feel like this would also be one of them. Devising ways of torturing one's enemies. And so I'm totally fine with being in charge of that. Minister of torture. I wouldn't call it torture. Minister of enhanced... Interrogation. No, I don't like interrogation. It's too aggressive. And remember, they ruined that in the early aughts. They ruined the whole phrase. Minister of enhanced... questioning sounds way less harsh than interrogation doesn't it right or enhanced cooperation yeah I'm totally, that's the technique. I'm totally fine with it. Remember, by the way, remember back in the aughts when it was all enhanced interrogation and waterboarding and I'm like, why are we feeling bad about waterboarding people caught literally in the battlefield in the war on terror? Why are we, I don't feel bad for you. If you're hanging out with terrorists, I don't care. Why waterboard? Just drown. Just keep them in there. Why? Why? Why are we feeling bad for terrorists? If you're capturing them in acts of terrorism, why is there any kind of feel badness about it? Right. I wouldn't be waterboarding because that's just an aggressive baptism. I would keep you under. So.
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Anyway, I think we might just add our last band name of the year right there. Aggressive baptism.
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Oh, that would be so good. It's like a prog rock Christian band, right? Yeah, and everything is in drop D. It'd be great.
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That list will get debuted next week.
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Sweet, sweet, S-A-H, sweet. All right, so back to my whole thing. So he was conveying things of Mahmoud Abbas. Oh, but I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet because we still have to touch on this, but then there was the thing that they put out. Yeah, I don't know if it was the Vatican, but it was like Catholic.org, their big magazine, where they had the gender stuff. We got to talk about this. All my Catholic friends are up in arms. They're like, live it at the Pope. They're living at this thing. They're mad. I'm like, it's Christmas. Why are your leaders doing this? Why?
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