HR3 Rush To Reason December 10, 2024 by John Rush
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And it's hour three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, Victoria Coates. Joining us now, Vice President of the National Security and Foreign Policy at the Heritage Foundation. And you've got a new book coming out as well, Victoria. Welcome back.
SPEAKER 13 :
John, Andy, good to be with you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Always a joy. And really quick, the book title, Battle for the Jewish State, How Israel and America Can Win. It comes out today, I believe. Am I right on that, Victoria?
SPEAKER 13 :
Sadly, we had a minor shipping delay. It's going to be next Tuesday, but it is available for pre-order on Amazon right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so all of you listening, make sure you make note of that. Okay, so can a Trump administration, you've had a front row seat in the past to some of this, so you're as, you know, how should I say that, you're more apt to speak about that than Andy or I, because you've had a front row seat in this regard. Can Trump, and Andy and I talk about this quite a bit, in fact, we did this during our first hour today. Can he bring peace to the Middle East, like he says?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, he's done it once before, so I would trust him to do it again. And I actually just got back from Israel and the Gulf yesterday, and I would say everyone in the region who wants peace and prosperity is really eager for the return of President Trump. They want that steady hand on the American tiller. They want strong U.S. leadership. They understand that we're not going to get into every fight in the region, but that when we do, it'll be decisive. So I think we could be optimistic.
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Victoria, what was it like for the last four years for Israel, not only to have a complete leadership void in Washington because of Biden, but really having an administration that, let's face it, was against Israel in a lot of ways?
SPEAKER 13 :
It's been really hard to watch, because the whole point of the battle for the Jewish state is to lay out for the American people just the practical case for why we're allies with Israel, because I don't think that happens very often. You're either sort of asked to pay lip service to it, and I think folks can be excused for saying, gee, why are we doing this? But when you look at it, you look at the historic investment of American taxpayers in Israel, you look at what they can do, and we've certainly seen it over the last 48 hours when they basically had a map of the Assad Syrian military, and they've been methodically going around blowing up all those weapons depots so that the potentially terrorist groups that are taking the country over don't have access to that. They're a great ally. But I think the case needs to be made. So that's what I tried to do in the book. But watching the Biden folk over the last four years systematically try to undermine that relationship has been really, really hard to watch.
SPEAKER 05 :
I agree. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Victoria, why don't you answer that question? Just a little bit. I don't want you to give it all away because, hey, you've got to sell the book. But let's say that I know a moderate or maybe a libertarian friend, and let's face it, they don't like our partnership with Israel. And so they come down on our partnership with Israel and say, this is a bad idea. We shouldn't be helping them. We shouldn't be partnering with them. Stay out of it. And we need to just stay out of it. Stay out of it. What would be a thing or two I could say in response?
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Well, I would say for starters, you know, it is a lot of people try to pivot away from the Middle East. The Middle East doesn't pivot away from you, unfortunately. It's an area in this very sort of critical geographical region between east and west. And because of the energy deposits that are there. It commands the world's attention. I mean, just that is the basic practical reason. And it used to be 40 years ago that we were engaged because we needed those resources. Now we don't. But we need them on the market so we have a stable global market. But really, it's China that needs those resources. So if I want to be engaged in the Middle East, I want to do that because I want to control China. I want to work with my partners and allies so that we're the ones, the energy superpowers who are coordinating, not the evil powers of OPEC. And in terms of Israel's broader capabilities, I mean, the intel capabilities, but then beyond, you know, the security relationships. They brought us everything from the cherry tomatoes.
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Yeah, I was just going to say thank you. A lot of the other advancements that we as Americans get to benefit from is that relationship that we have with them because, let's face it, Victoria, there are a lot of brilliant minds. It's a very small country, not very big in relation to the rest of the Middle East. It's this little sliver right there that really keeps the peace. And yet the amount of technology and things that we as a country benefit from is huge.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, it really is, and it benefits all of mankind. And so for all the people who profess to hate Israel, to want to see it wiped off the map, they would need to realize they'd have to give up everything from their iPhone to all sorts of high-tech medicines if they wanted to do that. So it's a very, very valuable relationship. It's paid enormous dividends. And just to put things in perspective, the price tag on the U.S. investment in Israel over the last 75 years is about $150 billion, which is a lot of money. But bear in mind, we're close on $200 billion to Ukraine in less than three years. That's right. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
How much is it a year? And, Victoria, how much is it annually on average?
SPEAKER 13 :
Right now, in terms of the current MOU, it's about $5 billion a year.
SPEAKER 05 :
I was going to say $5, $6 billion roughly.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. So hypothetically, what if for the price tag of $5 or $6 billion, we could give that to other nations in that region, and each one of them would have to pledge to do this. They would have to have a fully functioning democracy, full freedom for women. They would have to absolutely shut down all terrorist training camps in their area. their borders they would have to you see what I'm saying basically they would have to act like Israel there would be no you know people from their place bombing bus stations around the world okay they would have to fully partner with us monitor their people yeah they would have to fully partner with us with freely sharing Intel from the region the whole thing That would be dirt cheap. That's the cheapest state in the world. If I could give Saudi Arabia or if I could give Yemen or one of these places five, six billion and they would become all those things, I would do it in a heartbeat.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, unfortunately, Saudi doesn't need the money.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER 13 :
In Yemen, it's not quite clear who would cash the check. That's kind of the problem all over that region, Victoria.
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But I'm just saying, Victoria, people don't seem to understand the deal we're getting with Israel.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, and then think about all the joint programs we've developed together, because another sort of key theme of the book, and it gave the book its cover, which is the picture of the Iron Dome interceptors preparing to destroy the rockets coming out of Gaza. But missile defense, since 1983, when President Reagan announced the Strategic Defense Initiative, has been a kind of a dialogue between our two countries, bringing us everything from Iron Dome, which was a proprietary Israeli product. But after the success of that, we developed David's sling and arrow together. And now we have President Trump talking about Iron Dome for the whole United States. So, you know, this is this defensive system, which is so extraordinary. I mean, nobody ever went to war with something called missile defense, but it neutralized 300 Iranian missiles in the October 1st attack. There was another attack on April 13th and 14th. but really an extraordinary display of how sophisticated these systems are, how they can protect both of our people. As I said, great return on investment.
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And if I'm not mistaken, Victoria, a lot of that defense system itself, the hardware, I guess I should say, we actually make as a country, not Israel. It's their technology. They help co-develop it with us. But companies like Raytheon and so on actually build the equipment. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. No, both David Sling and Arrow are joint programs between Rafael, which is the Israeli defense major, and Raytheon, as you said. So these are things that we make together. And what's great, after what President Trump achieved with the Abraham Accords, is we could potentially extend that. So we could be talking about joint missile defense programs for all our partners and allies in the Middle East, which would really neutralize the Iranian threat.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Yep, absolutely. It'll be interesting to see how things go. We did talk in the first hour, and I just wanted to get a brief, you know, throw a brief question out to you when it comes to what's going on with Syria itself. That's been a big development even since you started the book and all of that. I highly doubt you anticipated what just happened in Syria happening. And I guess the question that I have is, A, how do you see that playing out? Israel's done a great job of really diffusing some of what could have happened there by what they've just done. How do you see that all playing out when it's all said and done?
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Well, you're 100% correct. I didn't see it coming. And guess who else didn't see it coming? The Biden administration. And one of the things I've been reflecting on is the fact that they had a major intel failure every year. In 2021, it was Afghanistan. In 2022, it was what happened with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It wasn't the three-day war. In 2023, it was the October 7th attacks on Israel. And this is 2024. So, you know, these people have been just perpetually surprised by everything that's come down the pike. And they have been the gall to say, oh, gee, we don't want people like Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard in there because they're not part of the system.
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Right.
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Good. We need some new people to shake this up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Amen.
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And ask all the tough questions because the Biden folk haven't done that. I don't mean necessarily fault our intelligence professionals. I fault the people who are setting the priorities and asking the questions. But the problem we now face in Syria, while President Biden is busy patting himself on the back for his great, great victory there, is, yes, Assad is horrible. It's good that Assad is gone. But it doesn't mean these HTS militants are necessarily better. These are ISIS and al-Qaeda affiliates that we've brought in here. We haven't brought them in, but they are going to topple Assad. And we have to make a decision of how we're going to deal with them. So I think that the designation of the terrorist group that President Trump put on them in 2018 should hold. The burden should be on them to demonstrate that they have, as they claim, moderated. I don't know if that tiger can change its stripes, but if it does, I want a lot of proof that that's the case before I go giving them any economic relief. So I think this is something to watch closely. Israel's doing the Lord's work right now, blowing up all these munitions, preventing them from falling into their hands. But it's something we need to monitor.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Good answer. Victoria, again, thank you. Welcome back. I always appreciate talking to you. You're a wealth of information, and I learn something every time you're with us.
SPEAKER 13 :
Awesome. Well, thanks, you guys.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John Rush together with Andy Pate. John, let's talk a little bit about the Daniel Penny verdict, as we know. Sure. It was a thundering verdict. I mean, this was unanimous.
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Guy should have been on trial. No, no. Absolutely not. Okay, for those that may not know what actually happened and what got him there in the first place.
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Okay, he was on a subway. A black gentleman, young guy, comes on and is very violent and is not just being loud. He is saying, someone's going to die here today.
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He's threatening people, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he spent about 30 seconds. And 30 seconds is a long time to have somebody ranting about how they're going to kill you. Absolutely. And he said he didn't care if he goes to prison. Someone's going to die. He was ready to kill people. They were terrified on there. By the way, the people on the subway... were mixed race. They were black people, white people, and Hispanic.
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So it was just a normal train.
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Right. Daniel Penny is an ex-Marine, a white guy, and he jumped into action and put the guy in a headlock and told others, get the cops, and he would hold him until the cops were there. By the time they got there, the guy was near death, and he died not long after.
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Okay.
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All right? And now, at first, there wasn't going to be Any kind of a case against him, he was going to be heralded as a hero, obviously. These people who were on the train viewed him as such. But Alvin Bragg, who of course cannot seem to find a white heterosexual male that he doesn't want to go after.
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He's a scumbag.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Well, he's a racist, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. He's a scumbag. He's a scumbag. That's why I say, racists are scumbags, Andy.
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He's a total scumbag. He decided to make this his big thing, and so he filed suit as the DA there in New York.
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So he brought charges, basically.
SPEAKER 08 :
He brought charges. The and people were really worried, not because Daniel Penny didn't have a good case. He did. But because it was a New York jury, a New York jury found Donald Trump guilty, which was ludicrous, you know. And so the the the idea was, look, the cards weren't stacked in his favor.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Say that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you're talking about a hanging jury. You know what I'm saying? But, first of all, there were two counts. The first one, they were a hung jury, and it was thrown out. The second one, they then came back on Monday, and they surprisingly gave him a unanimous decision, I believe, to find him innocent. Now, the head of Black Lives Matter there, and it's a gentleman named Hawk Newsome. Hawk Newsome. Yeah, I'm going to play him in a moment what he said. And it is just shocking. And I want to see what you think this means, because this is calling out to BLM members. And for those who don't, you know, I know BLM is crazy, but folks, they are large. They're not like the KKK. The KKK is some smattering of a few people scattered across the country in a few places. There's virtually nobody there. There is no KKK in terms of real numbers. BLM is everywhere and they're huge. Okay. And this guy reaches out to them. Here he is.
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It's like everybody else has vigilantes. We need some black vigilantes. That's right. People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud. How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us?
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Right.
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Okay. I don't think the guy on the train was being oppressed. He was being controlled because he was the lunatic. Well, yeah. First of all, he wasn't just being loud. He was... Nobody cares... He was threatening everybody.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, people don't like loud, but he was threatening to kill people. Right. Okay. So right now, the guy's lying. Right. Flat out. But secondly, he says... we will rise up and do the same to those who oppress us. Here's the problem. BLM describes almost everything as oppression. Right. Okay, so they're believers. Now, BLM has millions of followers. These are the people who have rioted in the streets. These are the people, because of them, we have had to board up whole cities, downtown, including Denver. Right. They are everywhere. They are numerous people. And this guy just called out to them and said, if you're feeling oppressed, you can be a vigilante against them. Against who? White people, John. Let me ask you something. Is it entirely safe for white people right now to go walking around downtown in Denver at night?
SPEAKER 05 :
In some places, no, it would not be.
SPEAKER 08 :
after what this guy just said.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, because he's basically calling on everyone to go out and rain terror down on those they don't agree with.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Now, I don't think they're going to do it right away. Yeah, I think they're going to lay in wait, but first of all, you're right. Yes, that's what he did. This guy is calling on... Look, this was an obvious ruling. The guy was a hero. This other guy was a threat. It doesn't matter what their races are. Right. Okay? This guy just basically said, fully race-based, we need to have our own vigilantes, and you do it when? When you think you're being oppressed. Well, I'm sorry, but BLM members think they're being oppressed no matter what. They think they're being oppressed simply because you are a white person and you haven't paid...
SPEAKER 05 :
Reparations. Reparations. Yeah, they think they're being oppressed if they get pulled over for a speeding ticket. They think they're being oppressed if they apply for a job and somebody else gets it versus them. Andy, I can keep going down the list of things they think they're oppressed over.
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Right, and I've mentioned this before. I don't talk about it much, but for those who want to say, oh, you're just being hypersensitive, oh, really? Remember the knockout game? Yes. Where black men were going around, sneaking up behind white people and hitting them as hard as they could in the back of the head to drop them, to knock them out. That was done to my wife, folks, my five foot one wife, who was just standing downtown. I forget if it was that light rail. I forget exactly where she was. The guy came up behind her and did that to her and dropped her. Okay, folks, these people are dangerous. These are not MAGA supporters who are wandering around taking snapshots of themselves on J6. These are dangerous people.
SPEAKER 05 :
They are thugs. John and Cheyenne, go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Andy, I never knew that about your wife. Is she okay after that?
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, honestly, she gets a lot of chiropractic. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do we know who did it? Did they catch him? Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, oh, yeah, he went free shortly thereafter. No problem. This is Denver, man. There's no justice.
SPEAKER 04 :
I got 50 acres, and nobody would probably miss them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good one. The thing is, is that we're law-abiding. We don't take it into our own hands. But, yeah, I mean, it's scary.
SPEAKER 04 :
At some point, a little Western justice might come in handy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, he was a terrible man.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
But, you know, John, let me ask John and Cheyenne, what do you think of what this guy just said? We need our own vigilantes. Keep in mind, Daniel Penny, he was a vigilante. I mean, he acted when somebody was threatening to kill people.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he didn't go in that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
This guy is saying he wants them to be vigilantes when they feel oppressed. What do you think of that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I'm going to tell you something. I got this firsthand from someone who knows, guaranteed. The mayor of New York, a former police captain, has told his police commissioner there are no George Floyd riots under his watch. That will not happen this time around. Well, that's good. I got that. I got that specifically from someone on the job in New York. So he's not going to allow it to happen because he kind of, he didn't come out and say greed, but he came out and said, I've asked all these people, if you see something, say something and try to do something. And that's what Penny did. So he's not going to allow what happened in 2020 under de Blasio to happen again in New York City. He's not going to allow it.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, and I don't think he is either. And by the way, he's even somewhat friendly toward Trump. Really quick, my wife just texted me. She said the guy who did this to her, this is a full assault out of the blue. He was convicted of a city ordinance violation only, not even a misdemeanor.
SPEAKER 04 :
So was that within the city limits of Denver? Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And once again, guys, everybody who knows me knows I don't care about race at all, but I do care about how others care about race. OK, what if the races had been reversed? What if this had been a white gentleman doing this to a five foot one black lady who was innocent and just standing there?
SPEAKER 05 :
It'd be a different outcome, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
He'd still be doing time. They would have tried to figure out a way to make it federal to send him to Florence. Oh, and the media would have been all over it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, that's exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but, you know, and that's what the problem is, is, you know, this, I'm going to call him what he is, is this punk who had 42 arrests and six open warrants and mentally ill on drugs was threatening people. And somebody said enough is enough. Right. And every time somebody defends him, I've been seeing a lot of this. I'm kind of proud of X. Every time somebody comes out, there's always somebody that responds back. This was not a good man. This was a bad guy who spent a lot of time in jail and was a criminal. And I think that's what's going to kind of slow down the riots. But I don't see it happening. Plus, The weather's pretty crappy in New York right now. They're getting worse than what we're getting. That helps. It seems like there's only riots in the summertime.
SPEAKER 05 :
That helps.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, nobody wants to be out in the cold. But I just think that they gave this... I'm hoping that kid... I call him a kid, but I call everybody a kid. I'm 63. I'm hoping that kid realizes that he's got no chance for a calm life And he moved somewhere else, kind of like, what was his name? Kyle Rittenhouse did, where he just left the state, left the whole area to try to restart his life. You would probably have to in that case. Yeah, well, we welcome him with open arms in Wyoming.
SPEAKER 05 :
If he's smart, he'd go somewhere like that.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's about 31 states that were voted for Trump that would probably say, yeah, you're welcome.
SPEAKER 05 :
Plenty of room for him, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, nobody would bother him. He could probably move to the western slope of Colorado if he wanted, and nobody would bother him.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, or, you know, down. But it's just a shame that this poor kid... had to go through what he went through just because he tried to do the right thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Agreed.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's a hero.
SPEAKER 05 :
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And, yeah, Andy, when it comes to the whole, just that whole topic that we just went through in regards to, you know, number one, a person should have been on trial. Number two, the response from those that are on the left. And, yes, BLM is definitely on the left. And, you know, you were going to ask me, are they a terrorist organization? Yeah, absolutely, 100%. He just proved it. Yes. His comments proved it. They're a terror group. Yeah, they should be treated as such.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, and by the way, so is the KKK. The difference is, I guarantee you, BLM in membership, in people who follow BLM versus the KKK, oh, I'll bet it's a thousand to one, at least, in numbers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I would go as far as if I were in charge of the DOJ, they would be on the terror watch list.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
If you were a part of BLM, you're going to be on the terror watch list. That's what I would do.
SPEAKER 08 :
What do you think is going to happen with Trump coming in? I'm very excited. Okay, let's say I believe very quickly they're going to lock down the border. I believe they're going to be building the wall right away. Everybody knows when we say wall, we mean a lot of things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Fans and all kinds of stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, but it's going to be effective. It's going to be great. That is going to free up a lot of resources to go after crime in other ways.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which we need.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, and you're going to have Pam Bondi, right? As the AG. What is going to happen to criminals? One thing that we noticed over the last four years is America was utterly lawless. Criminals ran rampant through the cities.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. There's an article. Charlie was talking about it earlier off air. I had it in my notes for today. But, you know, in Denver, a thief ring, thieves ring, whatever you want to call it. Basically, it's a drug smuggling, car stealing operation ring. So 190 vehicles. These particular vehicles, a lot of them high-end trucks, were going back to Mexico to the cartels in exchange for drugs, fentanyl, things along those lines that they were then bringing back here. They bring back here and then rinse and repeat. So to your point, crime is... at an all-time high, which you won't hear the left talking about it. In fact, they bury the stats. They don't even talk about it. I'm surprised this is even on 9 News, by the way, but this particular ring was the indictment contained 222 charges, including more than 100 counts of auto theft, a dozen counts of drug possession and distribution, multiple counts of identity theft, criminal possession of identification documents, criminal possession of financial devices. On we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. John, do you think the Democrats are in some real trouble? And here's what I mean. The first time around, they were able to tie Trump up for his first two to three years with Russian collusion.
SPEAKER 05 :
A bunch of nonsense.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but they've got nothing to tie him up with this time.
SPEAKER 05 :
They've already tried that in the courts, and that didn't pan out so well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Also, Trump chose a number of people who were not loyal to, I'm not saying to him, but to the agenda.
SPEAKER 05 :
Andy, they weren't loyal to the country.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Okay. that's all past him. Now, I don't like his Department of Labor choice, but overall, I love his choices, and I think they're going to get approved. I think his Secretary of Defense is going to go through. I think Tulsi is going to go through with fine colors. I think a lot of these are going to go through. So Democrats, I think, had their chance. If they had chosen the right candidates to beat us this time and then cement their power, they didn't do it. They're in trouble because what happens now when people see crime going down? What happens now when people see fentanyl coming in at a much, much, much lower rate? What happens now when people see Springfield, Ohio, the Haitians moving out? What happens now when people see Trendy Aragua? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 05 :
Leaving.
SPEAKER 08 :
Leaving. What happens now? I mean, what are the Democrats going to do now? They had their chance to beat him now. Now they're going to have him come in and have all these positive results. And next time in four years, they're going to face.
SPEAKER 05 :
it with a great debate by the way with more money in their pocket when it's all said and done as well don't forget that part of it yeah cuz you know again we're going to we I call myself part of this cuz I hope so we you are we we are going to clean up a lot of things the government is doing there's going to be a lot of the waste you keep in mind folks and this is something that the course the left won't tell you but and you and I both know there are literally hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars Right. Yeah. That goes on all around the world. So a lot of the spending that will cut back, a lot of people think, well, that's going to hurt us as Americans because those will be things that we don't get the benefit from any longer. No, it's quite the opposite. That money that's literally going all around the world that you, as an American citizen, see zero value in whatsoever, those dollars will stop being spent and we'll start doing things back inside of our own walls.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And by the way, we're also going to be proud of our military again. Instead of all this woke nonsense, Pete Hegseth, and I do believe he's going to get confirmed, he's made it very clear. Trump wants one word. lethality right he wants it to be lethal and terrifying again right that's what he wants our american military to be well i got news for you if the american military is like that people are going to be proud of it if the border is shut down and we're not getting flooded and invaded non-stop people are going to be proud of that if crime starts to recede and go down in the cities because we have an fbi that instead of going after trump and going after parents at pta meetings um If we have an FBI that is actually going after the deadly criminals. These sorts of individuals you just talked about here in Denver. Right. Oh, Pam Boniello. They don't want her after them. They do not. If we have these things happening. And then, come 2028, we put up, because Trump's one big disadvantage was he was a horrible debater, okay? So we put up, say, a Vance DeSantis ticket or a Vance Tulsi ticket or whatever. Or a Tulsi DeSantis ticket. You know, some combination thereof, right? And there's one or two others you can throw in there. How do they win? How do the Democrats win? This was their chance.
SPEAKER 05 :
We talked about this last week, and they will definitely regroup. There are some loons, we know, on the left, just like there's some loons on the right that we tend to talk about at times. So there's loons on both sides, and no, those sides won't ever change. They are who they are. But there are those more... I hate to call it center Democrats, Andy, but more intelligent Democrats that understand strategy. Sure, Shapiro. Yeah, they can look back and see this is why we lost, you know, frankly, the Bill Maher's of the Democrat Party, where they're looking at everything they're doing right now saying, you guys are lunatics. You're never going to win another election if you keep going down this path. So there are some of those that are going to look at that and say, okay, we've got to make an about-face change in how we're doing things. The question for you is... Is there enough sane, solid Democrats, because my belief is there's a lot of loons on the left, because it's a mental illness, literally. Their thought process, in my opinion, is a whole mental illness in and of itself. So the reality is, do they have enough sane individuals? And I mean that seriously. I'm not just saying that to be, you know, boisterous or anything like that, Andy. I really mean that. Is there enough sane Democrats to turn the party around?
SPEAKER 08 :
Ordinarily, no. But right now, yes. And here's why. Because they just got clobbered because of the insane ones. And so Democrats right now are looking at the insane ones and saying, shut up. And they're looking at the Josh Shapiros and saying, lead us.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is where I'm going to disagree with you. I don't think there's enough sane ones left to turn the party around.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah, there are.
SPEAKER 05 :
There are.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, there are plenty of strategists, and the peons will, to a degree, fall in line. They've got a real problem with BLM.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, again, part of where I'm coming from is what you just played a moment ago. There's plenty of those loons running around that can change the face of the party. John, it's like this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Republicans in Colorado have a real problem because of Dave Williams and his cadre. They make us so toxic and hated in the state of Colorado. And they're the minority, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're the minority.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know, but people see us as them, and that's why 60% of the red wave didn't hit here, okay? It's very obvious. We are led by loons. We're led by lunatics. Right. We are. Okay. Well, Democrats have that problem with BLM nationwide because BLM has such a high presence in their party. Right. But... I do not believe that they are going to be choosing a BLM advocate for their presidential candidate next time around. That's not going to happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
I believe they're going to choose Josh Shapiro. But really quick, how does that play in comparison to what we've got in Colorado, where you've got somebody that they wouldn't want, much like in Colorado with the particular people we're talking about, if you would have ran or tried to have run anybody besides Donald Trump, These people are going to have nothing of it. They would have stayed home. Do they have the same problem on their side?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because the Davites, if we had had, say... DeSantis. DeSantis as our candidate, there are a good number of them who would have stayed home. Because they have no loyalty whatsoever to the party. Here's the difference. BLM is loyal to the DNC.
SPEAKER 05 :
Drew, I'll give you that. I will give you that.
SPEAKER 08 :
They will... That is the big difference.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'll give you that.
SPEAKER 08 :
The... The Trump-onlys and the Davites, that group.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're not loyal. Only to him.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. They have no loyalty whatsoever to the Republican Party. In fact, they spend all their time.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're anti-loyal.
SPEAKER 08 :
They spend all their time complaining about the Republican Party and calling everybody a rhino, which is ironic. A Republican name only, that's what they are. Because they have no loyalty whatsoever to the party.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
BLM is not like that. BLM is the militant arm of the Democrat Party. They are Democrats. They are loyal. They will turn out for Josh Shapiro. Here's the thing, though. Josh Shapiro would beat a Donald Trump, but he's not going to get to run against that. He's going to have to run against two things. Trump's legacy, which is going to be very positive. and a much better debater like J.D. Vance. I don't think Shapiro can beat that.
SPEAKER 05 :
And last but not least, Andy, again, I know Donald Trump won the popular vote. He won the Electoral College as well. And please hear me out when I say this, guys, and I love Donald Trump as well. We would have gotten that with any of the other candidates we had running. In fact, may have even had a larger spread than what even Donald Trump had.
SPEAKER 08 :
True. It would have been a different makeup. Trump has done a real favor to our party by broadening our reach into a number of demographics.
SPEAKER 05 :
Give him credit where credit's due. Right. Absolutely, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
But our performance amongst suburban women, for instance. Right. would have been dramatically higher with a number of other candidates. Correct. So it kind of balances out. The thing is this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Really quick, I will say this. Yeah, go ahead. I do think Trump's strong personality and what he did to attract men meant something, meaning we've got to keep that trajectory going. So whoever we have the next go around is going to have to remember that and still play hardcore with that particular demographic because that's what helped us win this last time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not a problem, because all of our top candidates are loved by the men who supported Trump. Let me ask you this, and you can answer it after the break. Let's say we have any combination of Vance, Tulsi, and DeSantis next time around. Is there anything they can do against that?
SPEAKER 05 :
If we have a really solid, strong four years. I mean, these are great debaters.
SPEAKER 08 :
These are people who win debates.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which I believe we will, by the way. No. No, I don't think there is. The only reason we didn't win in 2020, and I know before anybody starts throwing at me all of the nonsense of the election and all of that, and I get it. You know, the FBI laptop, Hunter laptop and all that. Okay, I get all of it.
SPEAKER 01 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 05 :
But the reality is, had Trump even played his cards a little better that go around and even done some of what he just did, we would have won 2020 because a lot of what we're talking about. So the reality, Andy, is if we do if he does well again, like he did the four years prior to 2016 to 2020, if we have a repeat of that, yeah, we're unbeatable in 2028.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because we've got to keep in mind, COVID brought him down before. There's not going to be a COVID bringing him down this time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not this time there won't be.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, but even if it comes, we're not going to respond the same way.
SPEAKER 05 :
It ain't going to happen this time.
SPEAKER 08 :
There is nothing like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
That was a one-time deal for the Democrats.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was a one-time deal that COVID is what defeated Donald Trump in 2020.
SPEAKER 05 :
I can't disagree with that at all.
SPEAKER 08 :
Along with them, you know, the FBI.
SPEAKER 05 :
With that and the cheating. I get that. But folks, remember, you know, you've got to go back in time. And we were here. We were on air. We were talking about all these things. The reality is there were some missteps in the whole campaign. Some of the debates, some of the way he handled things. Again, even some of the way that... You know, some of the people that he had around him during those four years, which he's not going to make that same mistake again. So, you know, he had turncoats going against him at the very end, you know, campaign wise, even that hurt him in 2020. That's not going to happen this time around. And he's not going to run again. Be those same people don't exist.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 05 :
So it's going to be a much different four years than what we saw the last time around. Frankly, I think it's going to be a better four years because of the things we just said.
SPEAKER 08 :
Think about this during the break. Vance DeSantis, because DeSantis won't be governor anymore.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, something else coinciding with what we were talking about a moment ago when it comes to Governor Polis, and Andy and I have thought for a while now that he's probably in line for at least a presidential bid, running a primary, something along those lines, potentially 2028, because he'll be out of the governorship here in Colorado for those last two years, heading up into 2028. Although, he has done some things of late. that are not boding very well for him. In fact, there's some news out today talking about the economy for Colorado looking down the road 2025-2026, and the reality is we've had a pretty robust economy here in Colorado, but some of the future predictions here in Colorado are not super strong, and that will not help him in some of these things that we are talking about. So frankly, Andy, here in the last quarter, He has had some huge missteps that are really going to affect his ability to do what we think he might do down the road.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. The fighting against deportations was a big mistake.
SPEAKER 05 :
Dumb. Huge. Stay away from that, Jared. Yeah. You're smarter than that. Yeah. Or maybe you're not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Vance DeSantis. Talk about two debaters. Yeah, it'd be a good ticket. A good ticket? That's a dream ticket. I don't even know how, because the vice presidential candidate... has been the best governor in the country, and the presidential candidate is a brilliant debater coming off four years of economic success for the country. How do you beat that?
SPEAKER 05 :
It'd be pretty hard for the left to beat that. And again, our own governor is not doing very well on his own account, which is surprising because he's typically very strategic. So we'll leave you with that, guys. Don't forget health and wellness tomorrow. Andy, thanks. You guys have a great night. Be safe out there. Stay warm. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Welcome back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Of course, Charlie Grimes, Todd Watkins joining us now. Andy, go ahead. You introduce Todd and tell us what we're going to talk about.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Todd, of course, is the vice chair of the El Paso Republican Party. Are you still there, Todd? I am. Okay, just checking because there's like a Todd Watkins watch.
SPEAKER 04 :
Like the rhino watch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, because intelligent thought is not allowed in some corners of Colorado Republican politics.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, they shoot that down.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that's foreboding.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really quick, Todd. Andy and I have been trying to get on that rhino watch for the wall of shame, but we haven't made it yet. We have done everything we could. We're not as good as you. We are not.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'll put in a word, I know the owners. Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
My wife has gone so far as to say, Andy, why are you not Todd Watkins? And, you know, it's hurtful, but it just makes you more of a man when you are on the Rhino Wall of Shame.
SPEAKER 04 :
On the Wall of Shame.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I want to get there. Todd, what is going on right now? The state party, by the way, just came through an election, so... Money, usually that's when they have no money left because they should have used it all on the election, you know, helping our people get elected. I've written several posts online about how actually the state party dramatically underperformed the national average for Republicans in this last election. We did not do well here in Colorado. We picked up a few seats. We should have done much better. And now are you telling us that they are spending money on a whole different effort?
SPEAKER 08 :
yes yeah there are so as as we discussed earlier and I'll you know please jump in and ask questions to steer this so that we make this as clear as uncomplicated as possible because it is a rather complicated thing unless you're a total political party nerd so Dave is as the chair of the Colorado GOP has gone retained that the same attorney as before and they're asking the appeals court to overturn the judge in Arapahoe County who lifted the restraining order against Nancy Palazzi and me for the meeting that we tried to have in July, but it was TRO'd. The judge lifted it because basically Dave and his legal team lied to the judge.
SPEAKER 06 :
Whoa, whoa, whoa. So wait a minute. But you've already held that meeting. You held it in August or July or whatever. But you've already held that meeting.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was in August.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you held that meeting. Because the TRO was lifted, the temporary restraining order, so you've already held the meeting under the legal terms of the TRO being lifted at that time. And you're telling me, you're telling us, that the state party right now is spending big money on legal fees to try to get that overturned on a meeting that's already been held.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. It's a little bit like... I assume it's somewhat of a morbid analogy, but it's a little bit like pardoning somebody after they've been executed. I mean, what good does that do? We held the meeting. If Dave had held this meeting like we asked him to initially, evidently he would have prevailed. Well, they did prevail. A judge in El Paso County said... Dave is still the chair that we did not have enough numbers at the August meeting to remove him, so he remains the chair. So this is all moot. It would seem, until you unpack what they're asking, and they're using this, it appears, as an opportunity to have a higher court, the appellate court is higher than a county or a district court, to make some declarations as to the proper role of the executive committee, the proper role of the judiciary within political parties. And that one's a little bit... It's simultaneously ironic and hypocritical, because Dave, who started the legal lawfare in this, who went to the courts to intervene to stop us from following the bylaws... And he's going to now an appellate court to ask them to make a determination as to what role the judiciary has in political parties, ostensibly to say, we didn't have a role here, the judge was wrong to lift that TRO, and courts shouldn't intervene with political parties, which is, again, ironic and hypocritical. He's started the legal battle and now going to a court to ask them to basically admonish themselves for intervening at all. But really what he wants is to have the courts make a declaration or a decision that the executive committee can steer the central committee, essentially placing the executive committee in a near plenary position. authoritative role within the party.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I'll go really quick here. Todd, what you're saying is he would dramatically consolidate power for himself. Because for those who don't know, the Central Committee is from all over the state. It's over 400 members. The Executive Committee is just a couple dozen people, and a large majority of them are total loyalists to Dave Williams. So if the executive committee is suddenly given much greater power, he is given much greater power and he can be kept in power. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's what one would assume he would use that to do. And also a point is it's 24, 25 in the executive state executive committee and six are handpicked by the chair. So, you know, completely loyal. You're right. up to the point where even six are hand-ticked by the chair. I would have to think that what they want to do here is there was a bit of a foreshadowing at the assembly where there was a resolution passed at the assembly in Pueblo that basically instructing the central committee to opt out of the primary committee So I've got to think that, yes, Andy's right. He wants to consolidate power. That's the larger picture. But the more immediate near target is to effectuate a canceling of the Republican primary by way of opting out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can they, you know, I guess I'm confused, Todd. I didn't think that because that was passed as a ballot measure in the first place, I didn't think either party has the ability to do that. You know, school me on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's in the statute, 14702. It's in the statute. And this is how they got around, they meaning, you know, the Kent theory and the people who got this through and then maybe the Democrat legislature that actually enacted it. The way out of it to not violate a First Amendment conflict having to do with freedom of association is that the party, any party, the Republican or Democrat, upon 75% of the total membership of the Central Committee can opt out of the primary. So in other words, only the Democrats would have a primary election. The Republicans would then nominate their candidates to the general ballot. by way of assembly. It's right there in 14702.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, and obviously the assembly process greatly favors Dave and his loyalists as candidates. In other words, Dave very well could have become our candidate for CD5. had it not been for a primary where he got blown out by 30 points. And so obviously Dave and his cronies want the primary gone. But what I want to know is, are you saying that they're saying with this lawsuit, they can try to give that power to the executive committee over the central committee? How are they going to get rid of the primary without the central committee?
SPEAKER 08 :
So one of the questions that they're asking, according to their filing, is, to determine the ability of the executive committee to direct the central committee. And this goes back to that foreshadowing of the assembly where the assembly passed a resolution to instruct the central committee to opt out of the primary. So deductive reasoning tells me that what he's trying to do here is use a judge's decision to say, well, Our executive committee that is wildly loyal to me and will do anything I ask them to do will instruct the central committee to opt out. Now, what that looks like if the central committee doesn't comply, I guess they just, well, we're only going to count the yes votes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Which would, by the way, be possible. We're talking about people who tried to convert non-votes into yes votes a year ago September.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Really quick, Todd. Hold that thought. Got to take a break. Got a couple more questions for you. You got time? Can you stay another segment? Yeah. Okay. Hold tight. Hold tight. We'll come right back. Veteran Windows and Doors is next. 40% off entry doors right now with free labor. Find Dave at klzradio.com.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Again, Todd Watkins with us today explaining some of what's going on inside of the GOP as far as the lawsuits that have happened and some of the back and forth that's gone on. Really quick, Todd, before I get going, who is Hamden and Piggott LLP? In other words, that is some attorneys that the state party is paying. Who are they?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's it in a nutshell there. They are the attorneys that filed the original lawsuit. I know that Piggott is the one that I'm most familiar with, Dave Piggott. And he had something to do with a race, a House district race, a number of years ago. I don't know, six, eight years ago, something like that. But he is the attorney that Dave has been using for all of this.
SPEAKER 04 :
So we've spent in two months 55 grand with those guys.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was told it was more.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I just found two. I've just been searching since we started talking. So, so far, two of them is $55,000.
SPEAKER 06 :
Todd, the bottom line is we just came through an election. They're supposed to have no money in their pockets, okay? This is what they criticized KBB for. By the end of her term, she had no money in the coffers. Well, of course you don't. You just finished an election cycle. You're supposed to spend it all. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
They didn't spend anything on it. Well, I mean, they spent money on Dave's race for a CD5, including some defamatory pieces. In the primary. Yeah, in the primary. They spent some money in the primary. This is hearsay, but I've been advised that they've got over six figures left over. that had to do with the general election race.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right now they're sitting on about $275,000 in the bank account. I'm looking at the FEC report, and for all of you listening, you can look at that. And now I'm up to, for this particular law firm, we're at $65,000, so I don't know where it ends. I've got to keep probing, Todd. But again, at the end of the day, just as a side note, this is also not a law firm that I can tell specializes in anything legal. politically speaking. This is basically a family law office that specializes in, I don't know, personal injury, business law, estate planning, things along those lines. These are not what I would consider to be experts in this particular area. And Todd, I've been a business guy for years, and I've done all sorts of things, legally speaking, over the years on different things. And I mean, I don't know how much work this law firm has done but they would have literally had to be working night and day for several weeks to spend $65,000.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they had to learn political law. I can tell you that their initial filing to stop us, that was the first time they'd ever done anything political under Title I of the Colorado Revised Statutes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I mean, bottom line, we as a party are spending money in areas that, frankly, I don't feel we should be. Second of all, we're doing it to essentially—and make sure I'm saying this correctly, Todd— we're essentially doing it so that we can have our little GOP chair dictator continue to stay in power. Frankly, Todd, if this happens the way you're saying, if this goes through indefinitely, I guess, until he finally decides to step down, because at the end of the day, the power he'll have— will be unreversible, and who's going to absurd him from that particular seat?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, that's a very likely scenario.
SPEAKER 04 :
Am I thinking correctly, or am I off somewhere?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no, I think so. I don't know how much he could use a sort of, you know, omnipotent sort of ruling, granted omnipotent powers, how he could use that during the organizational meeting in March. I mean, that is still required by law, by statute, to have an organizational meeting in March to elect officers. How he could affect that, you know, use your imagination. They certainly have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, okay, and again, I want to make sure I'm following along correctly. If what they're doing in this particular filing and getting this appeal process to potentially overturn some things and go the direction— Wouldn't he then, if it goes the direction you talked about in the first segment, if he gets that done, he could actually go into this organizational meeting with a lot more power and the ability to control through the executive committee the rest of the committee, even when it comes to the organization of the meeting?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Make sure that I'm following correctly.
SPEAKER 04 :
And then, by the way, that's how, for all of you listening, this is how dictatorships get started, Todd, as you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. I mean, just look at North Korea, look at China. You know, it's cliche, but the Nazi Party did it in, what was that, 34, 35?
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, Dave has already come out and said that he wants to, and I'm using my words, but in so many words, purge dissenting voices in the upcoming reorganizational meeting. And we have to keep in mind, while Dave's loyalists, who are very organized, there aren't that many. It's a small group, but they are highly organized. While they cannot overwhelm a primary... and he gets clobbered by 30 points, they can overwhelm assemblies. And they can overwhelm reorganizational meetings. Why? Because these are tended by well under 1% of Colorado Republicans. So a very organized and motivated group of loyalists can overwhelm these. And that's how they've seized power so far in the Colorado Republican Party.
SPEAKER 04 :
And again, for everybody listening, those of you that are either on Dave's side, not on Dave's side, I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. I'm just trying to explain that, Todd, this is how these types of—call it what it is—dictatorships or even, you know, you get this rogue pastor that wants to take over a particular church and he wants to stay in there indefinitely. These are the way that internal— things happen whereby those individuals can stay in power indefinitely. I've seen it happen more than once, and that's essentially what's happening right now with Dave Williams, which, by the way, over two years ago, not long after he became chair, I told everybody this is exactly what he would do. So my predictions are coming true, everyone.
SPEAKER 08 :
He doesn't need numbers. He just needs to solidify and... and implant that insular circle around him. Correct. As long as they're there, he doesn't need numbers. He just needs 25 people that agree with him because they make all the decisions.
SPEAKER 04 :
All you need are your closest cronies on your side, and voila, you've now got whatever you need. You can stay there indefinitely. Your $200K a year salary could even be increased if you want. I mean, at the end of the day, Todd, this thing can just go as long as he decides to have it go. And, again, I'm not trying to be proud here, but, Todd, I predicted some of this stuff earlier. Again, ask Andy. Within a couple of months of he becoming chair, I started predicting these things, and voila, here we are.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you're basically saying he looks like a dictator, the way he likes to do things. Look, here's the thing. A lot of people may be thinking, oh, you know what? This is all inside baseball. This is just the Colorado Republican Party. Okay, let me tell you where the rubber hits the road. He wants to get rid of our participation in the primary. Had we not had a primary... had we allowed the assemblies Right. To choose our candidates in this last election. That means that the candidates that they wanted, that the Colorado State Party wanted, that Dave's people, his loyalists endorsed. Had we wound up with those candidates right now, the U.S. House of Representatives would be in Democrat hands. Right. OK, we would have lost CD3, CD8 for sure. And CD5 most likely. We have a two or three seat majority is all. Yeah. Right now we have a well, it's a five seat majority, which means if you flip three, that means they have one seat majority. And the thing is, is that, guys, if Dave and his loyalists had gotten their way this last election. the Democrats right now would be running the U.S. House of Representatives and hamstringing Donald Trump. Correct. Okay? That's how important this is.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. For everybody listening to Andy's point, Todd, this is not just inside politics. It is, but because it is, it can have grave outcomes upon what happens not only in the state of Colorado, but on a national basis as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, what the party does internally has tremendous impact. impact externally.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. That's right. Yeah, it really will have... If this goes the direction that I think Dave wants it to go, Dave, or Todd, I mean, I hate to say this, but Andy and Todd, at the end of the day, we will be lucky... to win anything future Colorado-wise, we will be doing good to win anything that isn't totally 100% red. If there's an ounce of blue or purple there, we will not be winning moving down the road.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And I want to, you know, I'm sure we're getting to the end of this segment here, but also understand that Dave wants to be in Congress. That's, I think, what is absolutely motivating.
SPEAKER 04 :
Todd, I said that almost two years ago as well, that ultimately his end goal would have been to have ran for either... Honestly, he wanted CD4. Loren Boebert screwed that up for him because he really wanted 4 because he figured that'd be the best shoe in. That didn't work out, so he had to go to 5. 5 didn't work out for all the obvious reasons and folks like us being on air talking about what was really going on in the first place. But no, Todd, I agree with you 100%. I said that even... not long after Dave became chair, that his ultimate goal is to be in D.C. and to camp out there as long as he possibly can.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. Todd, quick question, honestly. Dave Williams is so hated outside his hardcore base within the Republic. We're talking only a faction within the Republican Party supports this guy. Nobody outside the party or obviously in the Democrat Party or unaffiliated. Could he win any race in a general election? I mean, maybe even CD4. I wonder if he could have won. Is there any race he could win?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, if he went back to his house district, maybe.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I'm talking I'm talking U.S. House.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no, no. I don't see that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't either, because you end up with a a whole different. As you guys know, there's a whole different, you know, wider array of voters. And that's why we had such a hard time, even with, you know, Evans winning, which, by the way, as you know, Todd, Dave didn't want because he didn't want Gabe in the first place. I mean, we can go down the list of these things that have gone on that we've talked about, you know, At nauseam here on this particular program, and I don't want to rehash those, but I just want to remind everybody and Todd, all you're doing is solidifying what I've been saying for almost two years now, just shy of a few months of two years. I've been saying exactly this, that Dave is only in this for one person. It's Dave Williams. Those that are around him that are his loyalists are getting a snow job to the max. They think that they're in the inner circle and that Dave is their best friend. And, Todd, nothing could be farther from the truth. This guy will cut them off at a moment's notice if it means he gets to move forward.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not going to argue with that at all, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I've been saying this, and again, not bragging, but all of you listening, I have been saying this on air publicly longer than anybody else in Colorado has.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, if he's not removed, he will run the state party completely into the ground.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. Well, Todd, I've already said, and I hope I'm wrong in this, but I've already said that even if there's an immediate change this coming, whatever, February or March, and something happens to Dave, it's still a long road to get things back in Colorado, back on track by anybody else that would come along in lieu of Dave Williams. If Dave stays, it'll be a decade or more before anything changes, and it may never, ever change.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you've got to figure that if a new slate of chair and vice chair officers are put in place in March. that two-year term is going to be a lot of damage control. I don't see a lot of advancement, just a lot of stopping the bleeding.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you've got two years' worth of trying to get things back together from the division that Dave has created. And if Dave gets in there for another two years, Todd, it's not just a decade, it's beyond a decade before you can get things back on track. At that point, Todd, I hate to say this, Colorado's done. You might as well move and go somewhere else.
SPEAKER 06 :
The damage this guy has caused so far is so incredible. I've never seen a sledgehammer taken to the state party like this, ever. We are a laughingstock across the state.
SPEAKER 08 :
We're the laughingstock across the country.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Todd, I appreciate the update. I guess keep us informed as to how things go. I mean, as you know, we'll be watching this and so on. But if you want to come back and give us any updates on this, please let us know. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, Todd, one last quick question. How much money is he giving the lawyer for this latest frivolous lawsuit?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's tens.
SPEAKER 06 :
We don't know exactly, but tens of thousands.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we don't. Yeah, you'd have to look at whatever their filings are. But I guarantee it's tens of thousands. Probably just for filing that brief was probably close to five figures.
SPEAKER 04 :
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, of course. Joe, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know if you had a chance to read it, but, you know, the the the left is insane over their support for this killer of the New York City.
SPEAKER 04 :
The guy that unfortunately, Joe, and I'm going to talk about this on the podcast tomorrow, the NCR. Unfortunately, there's even some conservatives I'll throw in that camp.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, unfortunately, well, John, you could very well be right. But, you know, they're getting more and more and say, no, you know, the comments.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, by the way, I don't mean maybe on the conservatives being insane, but the all out disdain for insurance companies and somehow justifying what this young man did to the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. Even if even if you're a conservative and you repost a meme that even is along the lines of support for this, you're a wackadoodle to Joe.
SPEAKER 05 :
John, I couldn't agree more. And one of the things I said, I always thought that one of the differences between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives had respect for the process. We felt that the end didn't justify the means, and if we couldn't get it done by the process, then we couldn't get it done. Those on the left, I believe, by and large, believe that whatever we have to do to achieve the means... The end justifies the means. The end justifies the means. Now, we've all seen the comments, and I just did my podcast with a bunch, like one down, three to go, referring to Cigna, Aetna, and Humana. He didn't do it. He was at our place playing Dungeon and Dragons when the shooting took place. If there was ever need for a GoFundMe campaign, this is it. How do we donate to it? Anyway, here's the latest thing. My daughter, who lives out in Pennsylvania, sent me this. The Altoona McDonald's, suddenly they went from, on Yelp, and I just checked, there's now 133 one-star negative reviews, and I just checked. All but five of those 133 were posted yesterday.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, Google went in and deleted all of those because the same thing was happening on Google. Yelp, Joe, even as a business owner, I'll tell you straight up, for those of you listening, if you use Yelp, shame on you. They are an evil extortion organization that does nothing but extort money out of businesses, and they should be shut down, Joe.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And of those 129 that were posted yesterday, when you look at where the posters are from, John, they're from Georgia. They're from Minnesota. They're from Phoenix.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. Not even nearby where they would have been there. But yet, my point is Yelp will leave those up because that's what Yelp does.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what Yelp does. And, John, there's these disgusting – and I actually checked. Here's a picture of their bathroom. Well, it's this disgusting, filthy bathroom picture like you'd expect to find in a gas service station restroom. And you can do what's called a reverse image lookup.
SPEAKER 04 :
I did.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's not a picture of their bathroom. It's a fake picture. Right. And these people are so vicious.
SPEAKER 04 :
And my point is they are, and yet Yelp is assisting them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Yelp is assisting them. So you've got 129 fake one-star. They're trying to put this poor franchise owner out of business because one of his employees did the right thing and called the police.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which they should have done.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, I would like to see what their foot traffic is like. I'll bet it's up. I bet you it's up, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
I bet you it's up, too. Now, by the way, believe it or not, Altoona is a college town, even though most people couldn't find it on the map. But Penn State actually has a satellite campus in Altoona. I got relatives there. I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Altoona.
SPEAKER 05 :
But most people, all these people who posted these negative reviews, I bet you if you gave them a map of Pennsylvania with no towns on it and said, Your life depends on putting this pin within 50 miles of Altoona. How many do you think would live?
SPEAKER 04 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 05 :
So anyway, but I just want to let you read that. The left is vicious and they're stupid. Oh, they're crazy. They're crazy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let me ask you, Joe, let me ask you and John a question really quick here before we go. Yeah. All these people who are speaking out in favor of the killer, Shouldn't they be deemed as dangerous people by the law immediately? Shouldn't somebody be tracking them down? Shouldn't somebody be looking at their devices? Shouldn't somebody be looking at their contacts? These are dangerous people. If these are people who are cheering on a murderer, what might they do?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they're actually more than cheering him on. They're actually advocating other people to do the same. Then they should be in prison.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's inciting violence.
SPEAKER 05 :
It absolutely is. It doesn't matter what. Now, I would expect, by the way, I would expect to see that sort of vicious support for this killer on the liberal websites. But you even go on Axios, which is supposed to be a politically neutral site. The liberals have taken over Axios. Right. I mean, I mean, 90 percent of the comments on Axios, which are supporting this guy, you know, let me put this way of of the. 480 comments that are on the most recent XO story, more than 90% are in fully support of this guy. Unbelievable. So it doesn't matter. And now if you go on the liberal websites, they're even more extreme. Those are where they're advocating killing the rest of these guys. But it's just sickening to me how low they will stoop. and how extreme they are in their views. I mean, dangerous.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Joe, appreciate it. Thank you for the update.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're welcome, guys.
SPEAKER 04 :
Take care. I appreciate you very much. Real quick, getting back to Dave Williams, I just want to tidy up and finish up what we were talking to Todd Watkins about, and that's this whole issue of what's going on in the Colorado GOP, which, yes, we've talked about a lot, and I hate to keep naming, you know, talking about Dave. We haven't done it for a while just because of the election and things that happened and so on, but... You know, I was really hard on Dave going into the election. I'm still going to be hard on Dave after the election because I think Dave is a charlatan. I think he's a crook. I think he's at the top of the list when it comes to cronyism. And the way I see Dave, and I was going to explain this to Andy during the break, but I said just wait and I'll do it on air. This is how I view Dave. You look back at Dave's history, where he came from, kind of worked in the family business of his wife down in Florida and so on, and then ended up coming to Colorado. And then he was a representative here, a state representative for a little while. And I had interviewed Dave a couple of times on air. He did a little bit of fill-in for somebody else at that time that we were interviewing. And I see Dave this way. He came to Colorado, got involved in Colorado politics, and realized that there was this faction, this hardcore, I don't even call them Tea Party Republicans, but this liberty movement in Colorado. And I think Dave got here and said, hmm, hmm, if I could somehow entrench myself in that, and surround myself with individuals that feel like they're like-minded. He sensed gullibility. Correct. And vulnerability. Correct. If I could get in there and get these people on my side and literally feed them what they want to hear. Because to Andy's point, they're very gullible. But if I could get in there and start doing the very things that they want, holy cow, I could be set up politically for life. Because not only could I throw in and end up being chair, but hey, while I'm at it, I'm going to go ahead and run for a house seat. Back to what Todd was saying, which, by the way, I firmly believe that's exactly what he wanted. Right. I mean this when I say it. There was a rift between he and Lauren Bober when Lauren decided to go from her district to four. Part of that rift, I believe, is because Dave wanted four. Right. He knew that would be an easier seat.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, we talked about that.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. And he knew that would be an easier seat to win. Instead, he had to go to five. He got beat handily in the primary in five. And we ended up actually winning that when it was all said and done four. Unfortunately, in spite of Dave, we actually won CD five and CD eight, by the way, and CD three without without that or, you know, in spite of Dave, we still ended up winning those. So ultimately, folks, here's my point. And those of you that are loyalists to Dave. I've said it many times. I'll keep saying it. You better watch your back. Because Dave is one of those guys that while he's hugging you, there's a knife waiting to stab you immediately. If you do something he doesn't like and isn't going the way that he wants it to go, he will cut you loose in a heartbeat.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. He's using you for his power. That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And those of you that think otherwise, I challenge you to prove me wrong.
SPEAKER 06 :
Dave preys on the... Okay, this is going to sound bad, and these people are going to get angry when I say it. I'm sorry, but I've seen too much of it online. He preys on the intellectually weak. Yep, the low IQ. And by the way, there are many brilliant people in the liberty movement. These aren't them. No. Okay? And how do I know this? Because they can't debate me online. You've seen me debate these people, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
Andy, they will call into this station and even debate us.
SPEAKER 06 :
Remember when Caller Ann called in and started just spewing lies? What did we do? We picked apart our lies. What about this? What about this? And just lie, lie, lie. The next day, we really took it apart. And it's just like, look. They lie their heads off. You expose them, and then what do they do? They run away. On my recent post where I detailed piece by piece by piece what they had done, what Dave and the state party had done, and I said, look. I challenged. I said, will somebody on that side please debate me?
SPEAKER 04 :
They can't.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Please. Come at me. Attack me. Come at me with a wrecking ball. Do what you can.
SPEAKER 04 :
Andy, that's why we've had open lines for I don't know how long, and any of them can call in ever here, but yet they don't.
SPEAKER 06 :
I put it on a dozen sites, and they can't do it. Why? Because Dave's supporters are completely incapable of defending anything Dave has done. That's right. They don't care.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 06 :
They only want rage. They only want anger.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, it's easier. This is another proof of it. Really quick, this is another proof. Go ahead. It's easier to debate Andy online because you can think and sit and type and even get suggestions on what to type. You can't do that on air, by the way, is why none of them, well, one did and doesn't do a very good job of defending him. But when it's all said and done, no one will call in and debate us on this.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, when they debate me, I guarantee you, they'll even get together in groups around a table and work on an answer to come back at me. I still cut them to ribbons. And I'm not bragging. You could do it too. Many could. Charlie could. A lot of people could. I'm not saying Andy is such a great debater. I'm saying they have no answers.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's because they have no facts to back it up, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
They can't defend any of what he's doing. These are power moves. They're unethical. They're terrible. And oh, by the way, they support a bunch of candidates who would have lost us the U.S. House.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. I mean, just awful. Yep. Those of you that are on that side supporting, again, I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, mark my words, be very careful because he's not your friend. No. He's not looking out for the best interest of you. He's not looking out for the best interest of Colorado. He is in it for one person and one person only, and that's himself.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had, and I'll close with this. One of their, I'm going to say highly placed people, and I will not say the name of this person. But she told me that the reason she supported, because I said, you can't answer this and this and this. You can't debate any. She said he was there for me at a time of need. He played on her emotions and she she reeled through the story of how he was there for her. and shed tears with her and helped her through a bad time. And that is why she supports him no matter what he does, even if she can't defend any of it. I'm telling you, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's blind loyalty.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that's blind loyalty, but think about it. I would never pray on someone's blind loyalty like that. I would look at them. Yeah, I want to be there for people in their time of need, of course.
SPEAKER 04 :
He does, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
But he does. It's like, for crying out loud, You're pledging blind loyalty to somebody because he was there for you in a time of need during a bad breakup?
SPEAKER 04 :
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Listen online, klzradio.com. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And just to finish things off for this hour when it comes to the state party and what's going on and all of the things that really need to be changed. And I don't have a crystal ball, but it doesn't take much common sense to figure out that if we continue down this same path, despite what Dave and his supporters may think, it's over. It's done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're not going to win anything major. If they go down this path and remove us from the primary end of things, the primary election, we're done, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
We're finished. With these people in charge, if they actually got their way in our primaries, we right now would have already lost the U.S. House. By the way, let's keep in mind, Trump... increased his margin by 6.2% nationally against the Democrat, but in Colorado only by 2.5%. That means 60% of the red wave didn't hit here. That's what this kind of leadership does. It divides everybody and deflates them.
SPEAKER 04 :
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Time Doesn’t Shout – Part 5
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 607 aired on April 16, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes I’d like to ask you to stay with me. It's going to be a time of motivation, inspiration,
education, and we always do this without any type of manipulation. We don't try to hustle money.
We’re not asking you to join anything. We’re not trying to build a mailing list. We’re just simply
here to give you accurate information, hopefully information that will help you verify and
identify God's plan for your life. If you can do this, then you have the freedom and the privilege
to orient and adjust to the plan. That's my job, get it right, get it accurate, and give it to you in
such a way that it makes sense. Sometimes people tell me, “You didn’t tell me something I didn't
already know, but you put it in a way I've never really heard it put before.” I don't know what
this means except this is the way God gives me the ability to explain the Scripture to you. Just
like you, I must stay filled with the Holy Spirit. Just like you, I must grow every day in God's
Word. Just like you, I have a spiritual gift. My spiritual gift is the gift of evangelism, yours may
be a different spiritual gift. Some people have the gift of giving. Some people have the gift of
helps. Some people have the gift of mercy. Some people actually have the gift of pastor-teacher. I
don't know what your spiritual gift is, it’s not necessary for you to know it right now. I remember
when I discovered exactly what my gift was, what God had equipped me to do, why He left me
here, what my mission in life was. It is an exciting thing when you really understand this. We call
this a personal sense of destiny. It is a tremendous problem-solving device. Once you walk
through the door of your personal sense of destiny, you leave your agenda behind, and for the
first time you live your life on God's agenda. What is it God left you here to do? What does God
want you to do? This is a question you should be able to answer because we only have so much
time on this sin infested planet. While we’re here it is critical as humans that we adhere to certain
principles, certain concepts that are related to time as we live in time. If we hope to have
happiness while we travel through this sin infested planet we have to learn some things and this
is why we started teaching you these concepts that we went through on what time is it. We’re
dealing with the series on time. We’ve been doing a series of studies on time and I intended to
highlight several things that were necessary for you to make the most of your time that God gave
you in Phase 2 Time. Phase 1,
“Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”
(Acts
16:31), this is the time that you get saved. Phase 2 is what you do after you get saved. What's my
life about? Where am I suppose to live? What am I suppose to do? What am I suppose to think?
Then Phase 3 is eternity where there is
“No more tears, no more pain, no more sorrow. The old
things are passed away”
(Revelation 21:4). We’re not in Phase 3 yet. You're listening, I'm
talking, so we’re still here but in this Phase 2 situation, we've talked about being punctual. We've
talked about having patience. We've talked about what is a priority in your life. We've talked
about what's prudent or faithfulness. We've talked about your perspective in life. Then we got
into talking about God’s perspective. And as far as Paul was concerned, I gave you a verse last
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week. We talked about Paul's perspective and this is what Paul said if I look back at my notes. In
Philippians 3:8 he said,
“I count everything but loss except for the excellency of the knowledge of
Christ Jesus my Lord
[it’s all worthless].
For whom I’ve suffered the loss of all things. I count
everything but dung that I may win Christ.”
If I put it in a different translation called God's Word
Translation, it says,
“It's far more than that. I consider everything else worthless. I'm much better
off knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. It’s because of Him that I think of everything as worthless. I
threw it all away in order to gain Christ.”
In Paul's perspective, and remember Paul wrote over
half of the New Testament, self-confidence meant nothing. He lists what he could be confident in
if you wanted to and you have things in your life that give you new confidence. You could say,
“Well I've been a great church member and I've never missed church. I've been this, I've been
that. I've been a great, faithful tither. I have been faithful to raise my kids right. I've been faithful
to do this and do that.” We all have things that we’re proud of. We all have things that we think
would make us impressive to God. Some people say, “I’ve never smoked, I never drank, I've read
the Bible through every year.” Is God impressed with these things? Well, some of them are
certainly honorable things but listen to what Paul said.
“All these things in my past
[and he is
talking about the religious things that he had as he was raised to be a Pharisee],
I was
circumcised on the eighth day out of the stock of Israel from the tribe of Benjamin. I am a
Hebrew of all Hebrews and as touching the law, I'm a Pharisee”
(Philippians 3:4-5). These are
the people that gave the Lord Jesus Christ the biggest headache that He's ever seen. As a matter
fact in Matthew 23:33 He called them snakes and vipers. He had eight woes that He gave on
those Pharisees and scribes. You should read it and see because these were the people who
plotted his death. These were the ones that hated Him even though He came and He was God in
the flesh, and even though He demonstrated this by the miracles that He did, they hated Him.
They assassinated Him. They plotted His death. He told the disciples they were going to do this
and He told Jerusalem that He wept over Jerusalem. He said,
“I wish you could come to Me like
chicks to a hen, but you've walked away, you’ve rejected Me”
(Matthew 23:37). It was 40 years
later that Jerusalem was in fact destroyed under Titus, the Roman emperor in 70 A.D. Here is a
Pharisee, a self-righteous man, in Philippians 3:5-6,
“Concerning zeal I even persecuted the
early church
[he was there when they stoned Stephen],
concerning righteousness which is in the
Law, I was blameless
[in other words, I never violated the law at all].
I was circumcised the
eighth day
[this is infant baptism I guess].” “I obeyed all the laws [this is a moral, do-gooder]. I
had zeal for God.” This means he was very zealous, it doesn't mean he was accurate but he was
zealous and this is a tragedy. I’ve met a lot of zealous Christians in my life, people that are really,
“fired up for Jesus.” Have you ever met those sorts of people? “Hello brother,” I mean they are
so fired up for Jesus it’s scary, but they're not accurate. Many of them are not accurate.
The
spiritual life must be presented accurately and you don't live it on the basis of emotion.
You
don't run around all day long, “Hello brother, hello sister, it’s so great to see you. What a
wonderful day. Praise the Lord, amen, hallelujah.” Remember Apollos in Acts 18:24-28. He was
a very zealous preacher but he was not an accurate preacher. He was preaching John's baptism,
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he was not even aware that Christ had come and been crucified and resurrected. Aquila and
Priscilla had to pull him off to the side and it says,
“They expounded unto him the way of God
more perfectly.”
Here is the principle. It's entirely possible to have zeal for the Lord Jesus Christ
but to have inaccurate information regarding the spiritual life. Why is this possible? Because
Satan assaults truth on a daily basis. Here's what he wants to do. He wants to mislead you. If he
can mislead you by misinforming you, then you would be misguided and you will misrepresent
the plan of God to those that you come in contact with.
Misrepresenting the plan of God is a
dangerous thing because when you presume to speak for God, when you presume to tell
someone this is the way the Bible says you should do it and if it's not right and it’s not
accurate, you are misrepresenting God and misleading people.
This is what Satan never stops
doing 1. Satan assaults truth on a daily basis. 2. He never stops trying to lure you away from
truth by distracting you with issues that are nonessential, unimportant. 3. You must review your
perspective if you want to be an effective witness for Jesus Christ. This means, are you
accurately representing Him to the world? I was talking to a friend of mine the other day while
we were fishing and he is a fairly young Christian. He's excited about going to his church and we
were talking about some things. I just stopped the boat and I looked at him and I said, “Now let’s
assume I'm one of your friends and I'm not a Christian. I come to you and I tell you that I would
like to be saved like you are. Can you tell me how to be saved?” You won’t believe what he said.
He said to me, “Well, the first thing is you have to repent of your sins. You have to go to God and
admit your sins.” This is not correct. My sins were paid for on the cross. Your sins were paid for
on the cross.
Our sins are not the issue in our salvation. Our sins have already been paid for
on the cross.
What exactly is the issue? Let's go back to John 3:16.
“God so loved the world that
He gave His only begotten Son so that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have
everlasting life.”
What does 1 John 5:1 say?
“He that believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of
God.”
What does Acts 16:38 say?
“Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.”
The issue is always this,
“He that believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life”
and
“He that believes not, the wrath of God abides on him already”
(John 3:18).
The issue is
what do you think about Christ?
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the anointed Son of God?
Do you believe this? I asked a young man this one time. “Do you believe Jesus Christ is the
anointed Son of God?” And he looked at me and he said, “Well, I don't know how you could
rightly believe this.” This man was not saved. He is not a Christian. If you asked someone what
does it take to be saved? The answer should be simply, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of
God and I willingly accept Him as my Savior.” What is He saving me from? Well, He's paid for
my sin. He went to the cross and died for me. My judgment has been paid. God judged Him,
“He
that knew no sin was made sin for us so that we could be made the righteousness of God through
Him”
(2 Corinthians 5:21). If I want to be saved, I don't have to repent of my sin. I know I'm a
sinner. I know I've been sinful. I simply go to the Savior and as Romans 10:13 says,
“Whosoever
shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
I go to the Savior and express my faith in
prayer and I simply say, “Father, I believe Jesus Christ is Your Son and I am willing to accept
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Him as my Savior.” Some people add, “And make Him my Lord.” You can't make Christ Lord,
He is already the Lord. What you're simply saying is I want to follow Him. I want obey Him. I
want to be His disciple, His learner. I want to learn His Word. Well, that's good, that is what you
should do. When I asked this person this question, he wasn’t accurate and so we talked a little bit
about it. He understood this and then I asked him the second question. “Let's assume I am a
Christian and I want to be a good Christian, what should I do to be a good Christian?” The
answer again was wrong. “Well you should do this and do that and do this and do that.” By the
time the list runs out, I would go crazy trying to do everything because I know I couldn't do all
these things. What he didn't tell me, he didn't mention to me was that first of all, you have to
learn how to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
The first problem-solving device you must ever
learn is you still have a sin nature, you will commit sin, and you have to learn how to deal
with this sin because when you sin, you quench God the Holy Spirit and you grieve God the
Holy Spirit. You break fellowship with God in time, so God gave you a way to be cleansed.
This is simply if you go to 1 John 1:9 where it says,
“If we confess our sin, He is faithful and just
to forgive us of our sin and purify us from all of our wrongdoing.”
That's the way it goes.
If you
want to be filled with the Spirit you cannot have unconfessed sin in your life because if you
do, then you are out of fellowship with God and you cannot grow as a Christian.
Think
about the letter Z in your mind, picture Z for Zorro. Remember this, that the pastor
communicates the Word of God to you, this is the first part of the letter Z. If you go across the
top part of the Z, the Holy Spirit will capture what the pastor communicates. Now, if He's not in
control of your life because you have unconfessed sin in your life, He can't capture anything
because He’s quenched and He’s grieved. If He's not quenched and grieved because you've dealt
with any known sin in your life, then once He captures it, He can bring it to your mind where
you comprehend it. That's not all of it. This is the bottom part of the Z, now let’s go across the
bottom part of the Z. Once you comprehend it, then you have to comply with the information. So
this is the process for living the Christian life. The pastor communicates the Word of God, the
Holy Spirit captures it, you comprehend it and you comply.
As you grow, you learn to live like
Christ. The first thing you learn to live then is think a different way, to think in terms of
divine viewpoint and not human viewpoint.
This means,
“Let this mind be in you that was also
in Christ Jesus”
(Philippians 2:5). Romans 12:3,
“Stop thinking of yourself in terms of
arrogance beyond what you should think.”
God has a new way He wants you to think. He has
a new way He wants you to live. He wants you to live under grace and Biblical orientation.
He wants you to live under grace orientation and doctrinal orientation so that you begin to
exploit grace, you begin to live in grace, share grace, and you begin to study the Scripture
earnestly on a daily basis. Anyhow, it's not that complicated but if you tell me, “Well, you know,
you’ve got to go to church every Sunday.” Okay, I'll do that. “You’ve got to pray every day.”
Okay, I'll do that. “You have to read your Bible every day.” Okay, I'll do that. “Then you can't sin
you know.” Okay, what’s sin? Is eating an apple a sin? “Oh, eating an apple is sin.” What about
oranges? “Oh, you can’t eat oranges either,” and so you got all these little sins you can't do out
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here that are not in the Bible by the way. They are just sins that somebody doesn't like so they
throw them at you. Before long, you’ve got about 15 things you’ve got to do to be a good
Christian. This is not the Christian life. There is only one thing you’ve got to do, this is to stay
filled with the Holy Spirit. As you’re filled with the Holy Spirit then you will obey the mandate
to,
“Grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ”
(2 Peter 3:18).
Do you want to be a good Christian? Stay filled with the Spirit, get under the ministry of a
well-qualified pastor, listen to God's Word, and grow up. Apply what you learn.
What you
comprehend, you comply with. You have got to review your perspective if you want to be an
effective witness for Christ so that you can accurately represent Him to the world. You don’t
want to tell somebody, “Do you want to be saved?” “Yeah, I’d like to be saved. I’d like to go to
heaven.” “Okay, now here's what you’ve got to do. You’ve got to confess all your sins to God,
invite Jesus into your heart, repent of your sins,” and nobody can do all this stuff. This is not
what the Bible says. It’s simply,
“Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.”
Is
He the Son of God or is He not? Are you willing to accept Him as your Savior or are you not?
It's this simple. How do you accept Him?
“Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall
be saved.”
What am I suppose to believe?
“He that believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of
God”
(1 John 5:1). It's this simple. When it happens, what am I suppose to do?
“Grow in the
grace and knowledge of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”
I'm to be filled with the Holy Spirit
(Ephesians 5:18). Once we do these things, then we begin to effectively represent Christ to the
devil's world and you are dangerous. Satan won't like you for this. You have to reinstitute your
affections too by the way, get your affections right. What's your number one priority in your life?
This is my question for you today. Here's what Mark 12:30 says, or Deuteronomy 6:5 where it
came from,
“Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind,
and with all your strength.”
This is where your priority has to be, personal love for God. You
can't love Him if you don't know Him. Personal love for God you see is the motivation that
causes you to be obedient. Personal love for God is motivational virtue in your life. 1 John 5:3,
here's a test, you want to see it?
“This is the love of God, that we keep His mandates and His
mandates are not a burden.”
If you love God you will obey God.
You obey God because you
love Him, you don't want to disappoint Him. You love Him and you're going to do everything
you can to have His blessing and to hear Him say, “Well done.” In John 14:15 Jesus said,
“If you
love Me, you will keep My mandates.”
One of the great problems in the church at Ephesus in
Revelation 2:1-4 was this very thing. The Lord Jesus Christ said,
“The One who holds the seven
stars in His right hand, the One who walks among the seven golden lampstands says this.”
That’s Christ, He is speaking. He speaks to the church at Ephesus and to the pastor of the church
at Ephesus. Listen to His words,
“I know your deeds, your toil, and your patience, and that you
cannot tolerate evil men, and you put to test those who call themselves apostles but they’re not
and you found them to be false; and you have patience and you have endured for My namesake
and you've not grown weary. But I have this against you, you left your first love.”
See, here is a
letter of commendation but here's a point of condemnation,
“You left your first love,”
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motivation for why you do what you do. Listen to me today. Do you really love God? Because if
you really love God and you really appreciate God, you wouldn't do what you're doing right now.
You wouldn't allow yourself to be sucked into what you've allowed yourself to get into. You
would go to your Father right now and you would admit your sin. You would tell Him exactly
what's going on in your life and He will be faithful and just to forgive you. You will find out
where you can start getting some answers to why you do what you do and how you stop doing
what you do and how you can grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus
Christ. I can help you with these answers. I can give you information that will help you but I
can't give it to you if I don't hear from you, so keep this in mind. John now was directed to write
to the pastor of the church at Ephesus and those were the words of the Lord. This is a perfect
picture of how God's omniscience controls the direction in which the pastor leads his
congregation. He's directing him. “Wait a minute. You are doing all these things, all the right
things but you’re doing them for the wrong reasons.” See, this is how the Lord Jesus Christ
oversees and protects His body of believers called the Church. They are commended for their
hard work but they are condemned for their lack of love. Their issue that they had to deal with
wasn’t their skills. It was their motivation. Personal love for God should be your motivation for
everything that you do. Paul warned pastors and believers in Ephesus way before this was
written to be aware of the wolves, the canine clergy that would attack them as soon as Paul left
town. Listen to what he said in Acts 20:29.
“I know this, that after my departing shall grievous
wolves enter in among you, and they won't spare the flock.”
Their condemnation was not the lack
of faith or trust but the lack of occupation with Jesus Christ, this was the condemnation. They
were not occupied with Christ. Listen to 1 Peter 1:8,
“Even though you have not seen Him, you
love Him
[this is occupation with Christ]
and though you do not see Him now, but you believe in
Him, you greatly rejoice with inexpressible happiness and full of glory.”
These are the mandates,
to be occupied with Christ, to love Him. Hebrews 12:2
, “Concentrate on Jesus, the author and
the perfecter of our doctrine, who for the exhibited happiness He endured the cross and
disregarded the shame and sat down at the right hand of the Father.”
Do you want to focus on
something? Do you want to make something a priority in your life? Be concentrating on Jesus
Christ, the author and the perfecter of our salvation.
You concentrate on Christ by staying
filled with the Spirit and learning God's Word.
My very own pastor has been teaching a study
on the life of Christ. I would encourage you to get the study. By the way, we’re up to 1,000
hours, that's right, 1,000 hours in the life of Christ. You say, “How can anybody study the life of
Christ for 1,000 hours?” Get the tapes, listen, you'll see. You will learn so much like I have
learned. If you're occupied with Christ, you must know what He thought, what He did, where He
went, who He was, why He did these things. In 1 Peter 3:15,
“Sanctify
[or set apart as more
important than anything else]
the Lord Jesus Christ in your hearts.”
God makes a direct, positive
demand for you, a demand on your volition to be occupied with Christ. It's a mandate to be
consistent in the intake and the metabolization of His Word. Be occupied with Christ, set Him
apart.
When you choose to be occupied with Christ, it takes precedence over occupying
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yourself with people.
It takes precedence over being occupied with circumstances because
Christian fellowship is no substitute for occupation with Christ. Hence, you can have all the
social interaction with Christians you want but it's never a substitute for learning Bible doctrine
in your life.
This is the most critical thing for you, to be occupied with Christ, to have your
priorities in order so that while you are here in the devil’s world, then you're going to be
doing the right thing in the right way.
Remember this, God's protocol plan demands a right
thing be done in a right way. A right thing done in a wrong way is still obviously wrong but a
right thing done in the right way, that'll get you, “Howdy, well done My good and My faithful
servant.” Until next week, I hope you’ll come back and I hope you keep listening, but until next
week, I'm your host Rick Hughes saying thank you for listening to The FLOT Line
As the Christmas season approaches, Mike Gallagher invites his listeners to celebrate the festivities while contributing to a meaningful cause. Learn about the annual Angel Tree campaign and the tradition of baking Denise's preacher cookies, an homage to Mike's late wife. Amidst the holiday cheer, the episode tackles serious political and social issues with a focus on clarity and integrity, urging listeners to discern good from bad in a world filled with conflicting viewpoints.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
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Megyn Kelly wrote a column that points out how we are all saying thank God an awful lot these days. Since November the 5th, we have been saying it many, many times. Things are about to change in America for the good in the world, and it's already beginning. My gosh, yesterday's sort of shocking verdict from the jury in New York, not guilty for Daniel Penny, the Marine, who was just ridiculously charged with murder, manslaughter, homicide, whatever, by the corrupt district attorney of New York. What an outcome that was. I don't think anybody saw that coming. I think they figured they were going to have a hung jury. And yet the reality prevailed. Common sense kicked in, even to a New York City jury. Amazing. Amazing. And then came the revelation, it appears... that the murderer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO was nabbed in Altoona, Pennsylvania. I don't know about you, but this story stinks to high heaven. Oh, they found him with five IDs and thousands in cash and the gun. So he's so brilliant that he's sitting in a McDonald's days after the shooting. He's one of America's most wanted people. He's got all the tools of the crime with him in a McDonald's. And he's sitting there getting recognized by some McDonald's worker and two police officers, including a rookie officer from Altoona, Pennsylvania. None of his family turned him in? His parents? His friends? I mean, this is a smart kid. valedictorian, accomplished, popular, social, had a lot of people who knew him. Nobody called the cops when we saw the picture of him flirting with the girl in the New York City hostel. What? This is bizarre. I hate to go all conspiracy theorist on you, but this isn't adding up. The word patsy comes to mind. The word patsy seems to apply. And already, the few remarks he's made, he doesn't know where the cash came from. He claimed that the cops planted that. He apparently had a backpack that was designed to block cell phone calls. waves or whatever you call it from the cell phone. He said, no, that isn't true. It was waterproof. Look, something about this is weird. They're going to extradite this kid from Pennsylvania to New York. But I'm having a hard time accepting how we know everything about the guy now. Everything. He had back surgery that went awry. He had a beef with the health care industry. He hated the health care insurance companies. He was this. He was that. Within minutes of his arrest, they found him giving his valedictorian speech at school. They found all these. They got all these pictures of him. Meanwhile, what about the guy that tried to kill Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania? We don't know anything about him. What about him? What was his story? He nearly assassinated the 47th president, the 45th and the 47th president of the United States. That story's gone. No information. They killed him. It's over. Nobody, no interest in that guy. But this guy, oh, we know everything about him. We've got pictures. We've got videos. We've got his – they've still got – I think his ex-account is still up. Elon Musk apparently doesn't want to take it down. They started to take it down, but it's still there. And it's fascinating to scroll through his posts because, look, this guy is smart. This guy is super intelligent. He's an Ivy League grad. He's wealthy. He's, you know, got the chiseled body in a McDonald's. I don't know how many people that look like him eat Big Macs. This is a weird, weird story. And I wonder if you feel the same way I do. 1-800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Something about this stinks to high heaven. It's too convenient. It's all too tidy. And it's the one thing that I can't get over. Nobody in his circle recognized that picture, recognized him from the widely circulated picture. A rookie cop in Altoona, Pennsylvania recognizes him, but not his own family. Apparently his family owns a talk radio station, I think, in Baltimore, Maryland. His family's wealthy. I think his mother's a doctor. And the kid is super smart. I say kid. What is he, 26? He is super, super intelligent. I mean, he's talking about on his social media feed, AI and, you know, the metamorphosis of the physiology of the human condition. I mean, this kid is really smart. So I don't know. I've got to turn it over to you. You think he acted alone? You think he had any help? You think he pulled this off all by himself because of his back problems? Yeah, well, if he had back problems, considering where he's headed for the rest of his life, he's going to have a lot of back problems. 800-655-MIKE. Welcome in. It's Tuesday, October, December the 10th. We're 15 days from Christmas, and oh my gosh, I'm afraid we're not going to get our prison fellowship goal. We're almost at 3,000 kids. We've got to get to 5419. Oh my goodness, do I need your help. Please go to mikeonline.com. 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I appreciate the clarity of people like Scott Jennings from CNN who filled in for me last week for a day. That was pretty cool. By the way, pardon me, I'm just testing Denise's preacher cookie recipe. My Denise, every Christmas, had a recipe for something she called preacher cookies. It was handed down by her mom, who got it from her mom in West Virginia. And they're bakeless cookies. You don't bake them. They're so good. They're so rich. Dr. Ashley Lucas is going to have me in timeout because they're not PhD compliant. Look, it's Christmas. When you're on PhD weight loss, you know what to do. And my life now, I will be monitoring carefully what I eat. And sometimes if you go a little overboard, you get back on the bandwagon, you know what to do. Tracy's, I think, posting the recipe at mikeonline.com. They're so good. It's like chocolate and vanilla and oats. And again, bakeless, so you don't cook it. You just whip it up and you'll see on the recipe. Anyway, it's a Christmas tradition that we always like to share. And we honor my late wife with her wonderful recipe, the preacher cookies. And my kids, we always eat them. And so I made a little batch last night, just tried a couple. I can't make them as good as she did, but they're pretty good. You can go to mikeonline.com. Look, we're in the Christmas season. We're 15 days away from Christmas. We're 15 days from, you know, one of the most important commemorations in our country celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ. And In that Christmas spirit, I want to go back to what Scott Jennings said last night on CNN. And that is kind of going back to the basics. I am completely befuddled by people who don't seem to recognize the difference between good and evil. We have two huge stories. Two huge stories. Yesterday, a Manhattan, New York jury... acquitted Daniel Penny, the Marine, who was the Good Samaritan on the subway, should have never, ever... Look, there are already calls for Alvin Bragg to resign. It was a shameful charge. It was wrongheaded. It was unwarranted. It was a cynical prosecution. It was ridiculous. And even a New York jury saw it. You know, New York has juries capable of coming up with 34 felony convictions of the 45th and soon to be 47th president of the United States. And Alvin Bragg saw fit to try to lock up this Marine for being a hero. He's a good guy, okay? And as Scott Jennings, as you're about to hear on a clip that I want to play for you, Scott Jennings had to write a chart on CNN. Here's the good guy, Daniel Penny. Here's the bad guy, Luigi Mangione, who is charged with brutally assassinating the UnitedHealthcare CEO. He's not a good guy. He's a bad guy. Check out what Scott Jennings said last night on CNN.
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I want to bring in the politics of this because when I hear lawmakers hailing Penny as a hero, as a good Samaritan, really being promoted, can you help me understand the thinking? We started at the top of the show talking about the killer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO being hailed in similar terms.
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Yeah, let me just help you understand. If you're on the American left tonight... Here's my chart. The good guys today, Daniel Penny. The bad guys, Luigi Mangione. It seems to me... How do you... Everybody on the left... What's the chart for victims? I'm just telling you what I see out in the world.
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I know, I know. I just want you to finish the chart. Which victim is good and which victim is bad?
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What I'm telling you is... That's not on the second page? People on the left... People on the left can't seem to tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys.
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I'm not actually asking you about people on the left. I'm asking you whether you consider this person. I want to know whether you think that, as Congressman Crane does, that Daniel Penny should get the Congressional Gold Medal to recognize his heroism. I'm not asking you about anyone else.
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I think he ought to get a medal. I think he ought to build a statue to this guy in New York City.
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And I'm going to say it. I'm going to say the dreaded R word. Race plays a role in this. Right. And so we see it. Yes, absolutely. Because wasn't there a similar case in New York City? Statistics say that when people kill people who are white, they tend to get harsher sentences, especially if they're people of color. What about the Jordan? That is what happened. in our criminal justice system. No, I'm not going to stop because race absolutely plays a role in this.
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I said, what about the Jordan Williams case here in New York? Same situation. African-American gets on a subway, ends up killing a guy. Grand jury tosses it out at the exact same time as the penny.
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That's different.
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That's different. Yeah, there is a difference. The guy who stabbed the... criminal on the subway in New York to death was black. Daniel Penny is white. This is unbelievable. I feel like I'm going crazy listening to these conversations. So Scott Jennings writes a real simple chart. Hey, newsflash. Luigi Mangione is a bad guy. Newsflash, Daniel Penny is a good guy, and that leads to a debate? Did you hear the pushback he got? What about the victims of health care recipients who get denied coverage? What? Can you imagine, hypothetically, the head of the IRS being assassinated and people sitting around justifying that assassination because we don't like paying taxes or we don't think taxes are fair? Do I think that half of Americans not paying any federal income tax at all, getting the benefit of roads and infrastructure and all the great things that Americans get, and half of Americans or more pay no federal income tax? Do I think that's fair? No. Do I want anybody at the IRS harmed because of it? Of course not. Nobody likes the price of groceries. Do I think it's fair that poor people have a hard time buying eggs or bread or butter or milk in the grocery store? No, it's bad. It's terrible. That's a big reason why Trump won. We've got to fix this. We've got to turn this economy around. Do I want grocery store owners killed? And there's a guy on CNN, the one lone conservative that they let speak on that network, who writes a chart. Daniel Penny, good guy. Luigi Mangione, bad guy. Oh, what do you mean, Scott? That's a debate? There's an argument to that? My gosh. Look, Megyn Kelly wrote a great article on her site, megynkelly.com, talking about Daniel Penny being found not guilty. She said, I think all of us are feeling the same thing. First, thank God. And second, how on earth was he charged in the first place? She writes, here's what Megyn Kelly said. This feels like divine intervention because that thug, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, brought these charges where they should have never been brought to begin with. And then, as his case was falling apart Friday, he refused to accept a mistrial when the jury was hung. Megyn says... Thank God is something we are thinking a lot these days. And a lot of us have said that since November 5th many, many times. I believe she's right. But I've got to ask you, what is with the difficulty in knowing who the good guys are and the bad guys are? This feels biblical. It's like good is portrayed as evil. Evil is characterized as good. Up is down. Look at a debate on CNN over who the good... Do you have any doubt that Daniel Penny is the good guy? And Luigi Mangione is the bad guy? Are you struggling with that? Can you tell me what the struggle is, please? Welcome in to a Tuesday episode of the Mike Gallagher Show here in the Relief Factor Studios. 800-655-MIKE. We've got 15 days to go until Christmas. And I want to get your voice front and center on this caller-driven show. 800-655-MIKE. Call or text us. 800-655-6455. Incidentally, if you want us to text you back Denise's recipe for the famous preacher cookies that we tell you about every Christmas season, just text the keyword DENISE to 800-655-MIKE. That's the MyPillow text line. We'll send it back to you free of charge. Standard text messaging rates may apply. Please never text and drive. Just text the keyword DENISE. to 800-655-6453. We'll send it back to you or you go to mikeonline.com to see it. I'm telling you, you'll thank me later. These cookies are good. And it's always a, it keeps my Denise in my heart when we tell you about her preacher cookie recipe. Again, just text Denise to 800-655-MIKE or go to mikeonline.com. Do you have a problem with calling Daniel Penny the good guy and Luigi Mangione, the guy accused of gunning down the health care executive, the bad guy? 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The Altoona cops show up. The rookie cop in Altoona, he recognizes him. Oh, and they've already revealed the contents of his manifesto. He believed killing the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, was a symbolic takedown and a direct challenge to the healthcare company's corruption and power games. He was upset about the profits of health care companies. Now, the irony of this is the wealthy family this kid comes from. You think he got an Ivy League education just for free? Family owns apparently a radio station. I think his mother's a doctor. This kid came from a privileged, wealthy background. And speaking of the MyPillow text line, how about this comment? Luigi is what happens when you take a spoiled, soft-headed, entitled brat and run him through the socialist programming of an Ivy League university. Oh, wow, didn't see this coming. Thank God for the MAGA movement. Yeah, thank God. We're saying that a lot these days. But something about this doesn't seem right. Christian Russell on our team feels the same way as me. Now, look, I'm going to probably get flack for it. You're going to think I'm a conspiracy theorist. Nah, there's something too pat about this. The word patsy comes to mind. There's something bizarre about, oh, he's got the same clothes. Oh, look at the backpack. He didn't lose the very distinguished looking or distinguishable backpack. Now they're reporting it was the backpack that did him in. That somebody recognized the backpack as the same backpack that had been in all the surveillance photos. Oh, he doesn't ditch the backpack? No, no. He doesn't even get rid of the murder weapon. He's sitting in a McDonald's. Oh, and then when the police said, have you been to New York lately? He suddenly got quiet and began trembling and shaking. Nah, there's something stinks to high heaven about this case. There's something that doesn't add. And incidentally, what do you know about the monster who tried to assassinate Donald Trump? What do you know about him? What do you know? What are the details of that creep's life? Oh, we don't even know. Bet you don't even know his name. But everybody knows this guy's name now, huh? But the guy who crawled up on the roof and nearly took Donald Trump's head off, oh, we don't know much about him. He went away. He faded away. Not a lot there. But this guy, oh, we know. We got his valedictorian speech. Look at him. There he is on the stage giving a speech. Oh, yeah. Now we know exactly what he's all about. We know he had a back surgery and he was in pain. He didn't like the way the health care system, I guarantee you he didn't have any financial troubles coming from the background this kid came from. And, you know, I thought they found the backpack in New York Central Park. Oh, what, did he have multiple backpacks? The same kind of backpack? Oh, and he had a manifesto and he praised the Unabomber? Charlie Kirk is right. This story makes zero sense. We're supposed to believe that this guy's wearing the exact same clothes that are all over the Internet, all over the media... Somebody wrote, this has to be the most cartoonishly convenient arrest in history. Would he pay for the Big Mac with a credit card in his own name? Maybe he wrote, I did it, and scribbled that on a Happy Meal box. He's either the world's most incompetent criminal, or someone really wants us to believe they wrapped this case up with a nice little bow. So what is the real play here, somebody posted on social media? Is this guy a patsy? Or did he just take dumb criminal to a whole new level? Something about this is not, it doesn't pass the smell test for me. But maybe it does for you. Let's find out. Trish is in Gastonia, North Carolina. Hey, Trish, Merry Christmas. Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Thank you, Mike. Now, you're dead on. There's something really fishy about that whole situation there. That's not adding up. Nope. But on the whole penny thing, I'm thankful for that acquittal. I think the evil has been in four years now, and I think the tide has turned. Things are looking up now.
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It just feels like something is different, Trish. You're so right. There's something in the air. Everybody's got an extra spring in their step. And I think November 5th did it. Would Daniel Penny have been acquitted if Kamala Harris had won the presidency? There's a lot of strange political overtones to all that's going on around us. But I completely agree with... with Megyn Kelly, who said, we're all saying thank God an awful lot these days. Zachariah in Colorado Springs. Hi, Zachariah. How are you? I'm good, Mike. How are you doing? Good, good. What's up?
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Okay, so as far as I understand, they always say you can't yell fire in a theater, and that's illegal. But yet you can yell, I'm going to kill you in a subway, and suddenly it's justified due to race. Park Newsom and them are all pushing. But in my opinion, it's the same thing.
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As far as the guy that died in the subway when he scuffled with Daniel Penny, he was— Yeah, exactly.
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There's women and children on the subway. They can go nowhere. And on the video, he's yelling, I'm going to kill somebody. Somebody takes action. So the guy yelling, I'm going to kill somebody, that's the same as yelling fire in a theater. But why is he the innocent guy that just dances on the street for spare change?
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How does this Black Lives Matter leader, Hawk Newsom, get away with calling for violence in the streets as a result of the acquittal? How does he not get arrested?
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Well, what I don't understand is Hawk Newsom's pushing, oh, because we're loud. It had nothing to do, you can be as loud as you want to on a subway. But what you can't do... is say, I'm going to kill you, and there's multiple targets in the place, and when someone takes action, sets him in his place, and he dies, just again, the same thing with the George Floyd thing, drugs in his system, long criminal record, suddenly he's the angel that got caught in the crossfire, and Daniel Penney's the vigilante. That doesn't even make any sense in any world to me.
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Don't you love how the media describes Jordan Neely on the subway as a subway rider?
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Oh, yeah, and then they always got a show like his junior high.
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Oh, I know. This guy's a classic. This guy's a doozy. He's the head of BLM. I think he appeared on Fox News a while ago, didn't he? I think he sat down and gave an interview to them. I mean, check out this guy after Daniel Penny was acquitted yesterday.
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We need some black vigilantes. That's right. People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud? How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us?
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How about another doozy BLM leader, someone named Shavonna Newsom? Shavonna Newsom. Is she married to Hawk? Are they like a husband and wife? team of haters, of lunatics. I guess her name is Shavonna Newsom. Did you guys bleep this, incidentally? Because I don't like the expression GD on the air. I don't know if you bleeped that or not. I don't want to take any chances. Let's review that clip. She essentially said, I hope that the white people of America have a wonderful Christmas as the Jordan Neely family mourns. And then she said, GD them and GD America. Yeah, that's great. And this is the kind of rhetoric that passes for discourse in New York City and beyond. The left, they're nuts. These are nuts. These are kooks. And if you need Scott Jennings of CNN to tell you that Daniel Penny is the good guy and Luigi Mangione is the bad guy, you've got to get to a counselor, get to your pastor, look in the mirror, and take stock in your life because something's wrong. Something's wrong with you. 800-655-MIKE. One open line. Actually, two open lines right now. 800-655-6453.
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I remember he said he had a back issue and he was hoping to get stronger in Hawaii. So he's always focused on trying. When he first came, he went on a surf lesson with other members. And unfortunately, just a basic surf lesson, he was in bed for about a week. We had to get a different bed for him that was more firm. And I know it was really traumatic and difficult. You know, when you're in your early 20s and you can't do some basic things, it can be really, really difficult.
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Yeah, it can be very difficult. And that could lead you to getting a gun and creeping up behind a beloved father and husband and pumping bullets into his back. Because you've got, you know, back pain. I mean, and you know, they caught him yesterday. He had the manifesto, the gun, the same clothes he's been wearing evidently all week. Just like that, presto. So we're supposed to believe all that. You buying all this? I'm going to get... chided for being a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist, but I want to get this straight. We're supposed to believe that this hitman, this killer, was caught five days after the murder, still wearing the same clothes from the crime scene, still with the murder weapon, and a written manifesto and cash, multiple fake IDs, all while chilling at McDonald's. Just like it's another day. Somebody described this as the most cartoonishly convenient arrest in history. Did you see the first report about how they, something to do with a, he used a fake ID in McDonald's? What do you need an ID in McDonald's for? Who uses an ID at McDonald's? Look, I've been to every McDonald's in America three times each. I've never had to present my ID anywhere. I'm on a first-name basis with every worker at McDonald's everywhere in America. They don't ask for your ID for what? And, oh, somebody in the McDonald's recognized the backpack. Wait a minute, I thought they found the backpack in Central Park back in New York City. So is this guy a patsy, or is he just the world's stupidest criminal? Oh, he took his mask down to flirt with the girl in the hostel. Oh, look at him shining his big pearly whites at the girl behind the counter. Oh, that's how they got him. And I have to say, I am a big supporter of law enforcement. They're claiming that he wasn't even on their radar until they got the call from McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania yesterday. So wait a minute. That picture of him that went worldwide... didn't spark any flicker of recognition from his family, his wealthy, privileged family. Apparently they own a radio station. They're very wealthy. The mother's a doctor or something. I mean, he's got an Ivy League education. He's popular. He was the school valedictorian. And nobody in his school recognized him. You saw the picture everywhere with that big smile. Real clear shot of his face, right? And nobody apparently recognized him until some guys that get together at McDonald's every day. One of the guys, one of the men in the group said, that looks like the shooter. And then they called the police and the Altona police show up. And the rookie cop says, well, that looks like the shooter. And then they asked him, hey, Luigi, have you been to New York recently? Oh, and then he got nervous. And then he started trembling. That's our shooter. And look what he's got on him. Look, he's got a gun. Oh, my goodness. He's got the manifesto where he expressed admiration for the Unabomber. Uh-huh. Yep. This doesn't pass the smell test, at least not to me. What did he do? Did he write a check for his hash browns and they needed an I.D.? ? And have you seen the pictures and the eyebrows? And people are texting me saying, yeah, look at the eyebrows. He's got like a unibrow in one picture and in the other picture, not so much. None of this makes a lot of sense. Maybe it does for you. Welcome aboard. Let's get your thoughts on all of it. Our number is 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. We're in the Relief Factor studios for a Tuesday, December the 10th, 15 days before Christmas Day. Great to have you with us.
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Amidst humor and critical commentary, Dana explores the profound implications of controversial political topics. We explore a contentious nativity scene adorned with unexpected symbolism and its political ramifications. Plus, stay tuned for Dana’s famous Quick Five segment where she rapidly yet insightfully tackles a range of topics from declining college enrollment to the potential economic impacts of Trump’s political moves. Concluding with a deep dive into the Vatican's latest controversy and consumer advice on concealed carry weapons, this episode is packed with insights and bold opinions.
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It's time for Florida Man.
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Hmm. Alright, so... There's a couple here. I always like going for the weirdest ones first. Well... Let's do... I'm going to do the bug one. I'm going to do this one. Florida was arrested at Disney Springs after he got drunk during... No, wait. What is this? It was a show? Oh, it was... House of Blues. Oh, it was the House of Blues. Okay. Because it says at Hawthorne Heights show. I'm like... So, you're telling me a guy got drunk at a nightclub? Yeah. And they're like, wow, he's in trouble. Is that right? Ryan Tomasco, 38. He was arrested for trespass, disorderly conduct and resisting an officer without violence. So this is all the way back in August. But apparently they're all doing this now. He got kicked out of this House of Blues show for being drunk. And. OK, so why is this news? so this is like the in front of kids who's got their kids at a nightclub that's like taking your damn baby to a bar not like a no let me rephrase that to a tavern there's a bar and then there are taverns y'all know what I mean right there's a difference it's like having your baby in a tavern know what I'm saying like why would you bring your kids to a club you know where people are going to be drinking and listening to a lot of music why I don't get it and they're shocked when a guy drank and was falling all over the place Look, my grandparents used to run a bar. Sorry, a tavern. I saw many a drunk person get thrown out of it. Just saying. I don't know. Like, you're shocked. I mean, he shouldn't have fought with the officer, but I don't know. I don't know what I think about that one. Let's see. This... Oh man, we're running out of time. Okay, I'm going to have to tell you about the scumbag Florida realtor tomorrow. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, All Family Pharmacy has you covered. Whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support, or general well-being, All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages. designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10. We were talking about... We played this last hour, Audio Soundbite 7, but Taylor Lorenz, when she was... Taylor Lorenz, she's like some 50-year-old who pretended that she was 30. So it seemed less ridiculous if she wrote about Taylor Swift. And she's... She got fired from Vox or something like that. No one can – I don't know what her appeal is other than she's a good avatar for the stupidity on the left and it makes for content that you can work around. But there were enough people on the left that said that they enjoyed or that they celebrated or that they felt joy over –
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watching the ceo be gunned down in the middle of the street listen to this i'll do something seven i think that's why i i felt along with so many other americans joy unfortunately you know because it feels like serious i mean joy the man's execution maybe not joy but certainly not no certainly not empathy because again we're watching the footage how can this make you joyful
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This guy's a husband.
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He's a father.
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And he's being young down in the middle of Manhattan.
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Why is that making joyful Americans that be murdered? So are tens. So are the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one push a policies of denying.
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She's like somebody who read one missive, one essay about health insurance in college. And now she thinks she's an expert. What is she even talking about? So because she doesn't like the way health insurance works, and by the way, health insurance is that way because you stupid morons, the Taylor Lorenzes of the world, make it that way. We could have it be portable. We could have it to where you could make insurance companies compete and you could purchase across state lines, et cetera, et cetera, carry it with you wherever. But you know who fought against that? Democrats did. Democrats fought against it. They were the ones who barred that. That was Republicans that were trying to make that happen before Obamacare was passed. They had like 13 other proposals for all the people who get out there and say Republicans had no proposals to Obamacare. Those people who say that aren't educated enough to be included in this big kid conversation. The people who say that didn't pay attention enough to their own government. And so they need to stay out of this conversation and let people who do know what happened actually continue on the merits of fact. Because there were 13 alternatives to Obamacare, and every single one of them were shot down by Democrats who controlled everything. And numerous proposals included the portability, you know, keeping it untethered from your work. It's asinine that your job has to provide you with your health insurance. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. You should be able to get it for yourself. It should be affordable. And you should be able to use it like you do car insurance or something. The other reason is people use insurance wrong. That drives up the cost, too. The dumb Taylor Lorenzes of the world. 50 years old, and you act like a 15-year-old bimbo. I don't get it. Like, what the hell is wrong with you? Like, arrested development, that one. Oh, I don't feel bad. Make sure you quote me accurately, Media Matters, and then please make note that I don't have enough middle fingers to give you salutes. You George Soros lotion boys. Anyway. It's true. Let's be real. This... Joy that you feel you created the situation. He's just running one of the companies and you created the regulations in which he has to operate. You created the framework. He has to operate in that framework. Why are they mad? They're mad because of what they created. They're mad because they don't like the conditions of insurance. They're mad because they made it a hellscape. Just so dumb. And Obamacare is trash. It absolutely is trash. But that's what, you know, and the other difference, and Cain noted this, to even compare the health care CEO to Jordan Ely is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. The CEO had no idea what was happening. He was walking in a different direction. And this cowardly trust fund socialist came up behind him and shot him. Jordan Neely was threatening to murder people. In their faces. After he's already tried to murder people. So this is just not even. This is so goofy. But they felt joy. They felt joy. I bet she would have felt joy. I bet if they watched, if there had been footage of Jordan Neely... threatening to kill people and getting in the faces of these women, scaring the babies that were on the subway train, on the subway car. I bet that the Taylor Lorenzes of the world would have felt joy at that too, wouldn't they have? Because they're psychos. Would they have felt joy watching a mother try to shield her child as Jordan Ely was screaming about how he was going to kill them all? Does that get them off? It makes me wonder. These people are that messed up. How messed up are you that you actually have that enthusiasm? over that kind of stuff. These people have a screw loose. And I'm not talking about the Jordan Ely's. I'm talking about like the CNN lady and this bra that we just played on Piers Morgan's whatever. What the hell is the matter with you? You soulless cretins. Y'all need Jesus and a Bible for Christmas. That's what y'all need. Good night. It's just aggravating. It actually makes me enraged. Our partners over at Kel-Tec, the P15, it's the lightest and it's double stacked 9mm on the market. I actually had somebody who was, they're getting their concealed carry And they've never carried before. And they were asking me what they should get. It's a woman. Never carried before. She's asking me what she should get. And I was recommending to her a few things. And I said, honestly, the lightest, thinnest, the most concealable 9mm is Kel-Tex P15. It really, truly is. And I have every, I think I have every compact pistol you can think of. The Kel-Type P15, 9mm. It's a 1.27 inches wide, 4 inch barrel. And it ships with two standard capacity magazines. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So the Guardian, which is a left leaning POS over in Britain, says that the college enrollment rate is falling at a concerning or the college enrollment levels dropping at a concerning rate. Fewer 18 year olds are enrolling, especially at four year schools. But the number of applications continues to grow. I think there needs to be a reworking of the college system entirely. I think it's absolutely stupid. It's a racket. I think that they try to charge you thousands of dollars to take stupid, idiotic humanities classes that do nothing to enrich one's mind, further one's education, or have anything to do with their major at all whatsoever. And I think that if any college receives any kind of federal money and they require these students to take these stupid courses as part of their education, what their degree coursework, they should be penalized personally. I mean, honestly, it's really as stupid. The way we run higher education is one of the dumbest aspects of this country. It really is. And thanks left. Thanks for doing that. Thanks for consolidating all of the tuition and the loans and driving up costs for everybody. Tokyo adopts a four day work week because they're desperate that women have more kids. They do have a huge issue over there as it relates to their population size. Their population growth has been super slow. They said their fertility rate plummeted to a record low of 1.2 in 2023. Super low fertility rate. So they're implementing a four-day work week for their employees beginning next year, offering them three-day weekends and family-friendly options. And they said that they have to do it to support families. Also, you know, it's a cultural thing and an economic thing. If you could have more families live comfortably on one income, you would probably see more. If you had lower taxation and less government spending... you would probably see more able to make that choice. And I think that not just here in the United States, but I think that that goes for any country, anybody, because this is something that's affecting everybody around the world. Here they go. Here they're setting up the narrative. Telegraph, another left-leaning POS in Britain. America's economy risks massive Trump slump. They're setting Trump up. I told you this was going to happen. We both told you. Cain and I told you. We talked about this, Cain, what, for weeks. They're going to do this. They said here's the first sentence. Donald Trump risks tipping the U.S. in a recession if he follows through with the promises made on the campaign trail. So for Republicans, here's why Doge is going to have and we'll talk more about this. Here's why Doge is going to have its work cut out for them. If even if they were to suggest all of these cuts to Congress, Congress still has to vote to implement them. That's number one. Number two. You see these headlines? That's just the start of it. If you have Republicans actually commit to austerity and reduce government spending and lower taxes, they are going to hammer the GOP with headlines like these. Absolutely. They're going to hammer them with these headlines. And look what happened in Greece when they just tried to implement austerity. People were riding in the streets. So, just saying. That's something to think about. This... Study says regularly posting on social media may worsen mental health in adults. Oh, I completely agree that. I completely agree with that. In fact, there's most adults, I think, on social media, not us, but everybody else. I think that they live up to this headline hype. Stick with us. I don't know if you saw the creche where they have like this. It's sort of like a giant diorama. I don't know how else to put it. It's usually like a biblical story laid out in a scene. It's like a 3D thing. It's called a creche. And with Pope Francis, apparently, I guess they put one up and pulled this up. He inaugurated a new nativity scene, Southern Missouri. I call it nativity, called Bethlehem 2024. It's in the lobby of the Vatican. Now, okay, that all sounds well and good, right? You've got a nativity in the lobby of the Vatican. I've been in the lobby of the Vatican. It's a huge, huge area. So they put this, and Juan's showing you the photo of it. Notice something in the photo that Juan's showing you. What is the baby Jesus laying on? He's laying on one of them Hamas picnic blankets. And it's a symbol of the pro-Hamas folks. And I guess it's part of the whole setup. What? What? Yeah, Jesus was so totally Jewish. Jesus was a Jew. Jesus was Jewish. They called him rabbi for crying out loud. He was Jewish. Why is he laying on a pro Hamas picnic blanket? And the creche. And, oh, guess who was with the Pope when he unveiled that? It was the PLO, the Palestine Liberation Organization Executive Committee member, Ramzi Khoury. And he was there on behalf of Mahmoud Abbas, the PLO president, Mahmoud Abbas. Huh. And Corey thanked Pope Francis for his unwavering support of the quote-unquote Palestine. I don't like to say Palestine or Palestinian because it's a fake place and a made-up ethnicity. So I don't like saying that because it is. It's not supported by biblical history. It's not even supported by the Koran. It's not supported by any religious text. 2,000 years of antiquity don't support it as a singular place or an ethnicity of people. So Gaza. I like to say Gaza. Gaza, that's a correct... term for that geographical area. And their government is literally Hamas, like they voted for them. So pro-Hamas, it's accurate. So they had, Corey thanked Pope Francis for his support of the Gazan cause. And they want to end the war on Gaza that their government started. Their government started the war, killed a bunch of people. I just find it, I'm just shocked. That's who the Pope had with him. The Pope had him with him. There, unveiling this creche. What? Are you, really? That's who he had with him. Cain, what are you typing? Just say it. Say it, don't spray it.
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No, I was just saying, I'm not sure Jesus ever had a, are they called those keffias?
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Yeah, I call them picnic blankets.
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Picnic blankets. I'm not sure Jesus ever owned one at any point in his life.
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Yeah, it's not historically accurate.
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It's a tough one to get my mind around.
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I mean, it's just kind of weird that he has the Hamas, you know, Gaza guy there with him. And they're like, yes, you know, thank you for trying to end the war on Gaza. What do you mean the war on Gaza? Gaza had a war on Israel. Your elected government did it. Hamas. You still have babies in captivity. The hell are you talking about? Oh, the war on Gaza. All you had to do was release the hostages. You walking mental abortion. All you had to do was release the hostages. That's it. Oh, but you didn't want to. So now what? What are people supposed to do? My gosh, if someone busted into my house and kidnapped members of my family, I would literally boil everyone associated with it in acid after I flayed them publicly on my front yard. Oh, I'm not joking. I would go further. See, I need cane sidebar sidebar. I need to be in charge of torture. Yeah. So, but Dana, we live in a Republic. This is why I can't be a president because I come up with fun jobs like this ministry of torture. Me, just me, just me, just make it with me. And it can end when I leave. But I would be really good at this. So good at this. I have a particular set of skills, okay? I have some skills. You want to know what my skills are? I can do a cat eye liquid liner like nobody's business. I can do it in three motions. I'm so good. Number one. Number two. Ski ball. Oh, my gosh. If it was an Olympic sport, I will win so many gold medals for our country. I can get 100s all day long. Boom, boom, boom. I'm so good at it, right? So I got a particular set of skills. I can do things. I can parallel park in two moves. Anything. Give me a semi. I'll parallel park it. I have weird skills. I have crazy skills. weird trivia, a crazy weird trivia mind. So I can do, if you have really weird trivia nights, I'm your, I'm like your, you know, I'm your ringer. Bring me in. Can't fold a fitted sheet. You know, can't do that. Um, you know, but there's other things I can do well, but those are some of my top skills. Right. And, um, I feel like this would also be one of them. Devising ways of torturing one's enemies. And so I'm totally fine with being in charge of that. Minister of torture. I wouldn't call it torture. Minister of enhanced... Interrogation. No, I don't like interrogation. It's too aggressive. And remember, they ruined that in the early aughts. They ruined the whole phrase. Minister of enhanced... questioning sounds way less harsh than interrogation doesn't it right or enhanced cooperation yeah I'm totally, that's the technique. I'm totally fine with it. Remember, by the way, remember back in the aughts when it was all enhanced interrogation and waterboarding and I'm like, why are we feeling bad about waterboarding people caught literally in the battlefield in the war on terror? Why are we, I don't feel bad for you. If you're hanging out with terrorists, I don't care. Why waterboard? Just drown. Just keep them in there. Why? Why? Why are we feeling bad for terrorists? If you're capturing them in acts of terrorism, why is there any kind of feel badness about it? Right. I wouldn't be waterboarding because that's just an aggressive baptism. I would keep you under. So.
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Anyway, I think we might just add our last band name of the year right there. Aggressive baptism.
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Oh, that would be so good. It's like a prog rock Christian band, right? Yeah, and everything is in drop D. It'd be great.
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Sweet, sweet, S-A-H, sweet. All right, so back to my whole thing. So he was conveying things of Mahmoud Abbas. Oh, but I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet because we still have to touch on this, but then there was the thing that they put out. Yeah, I don't know if it was the Vatican, but it was like Catholic.org, their big magazine, where they had the gender stuff. We got to talk about this. All my Catholic friends are up in arms. They're like, live it at the Pope. They're living at this thing. They're mad. I'm like, it's Christmas. Why are your leaders doing this? Why?
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In today's episode, we navigate through a whirlwind of news, from the mysterious arrest of a healthcare CEO to the ever-complicated political struggles in the USA. Dive deep with us into intriguing discussions about gun control, political narratives, and an inexplicable virus scare, all while keeping an eye on the societal outcomes these issues precipitate. As we approach the festive season, we’ll try to lend coherence to what seems like an era marked by chaos and unpredictability.
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You know, doesn't that, I just feel like that tells us everything. If we do not want violence on our subways, and the point of our justice system is a level of accountability to prevent a person who does not have remorse about taking another person's life. I mean, even people... have engaged in manslaughter or have taken a life accidentally and expressed remorse.
SPEAKER 06 :
How you feeling? He's feeling good. He's feeling good. He's feeling good. What's up? Come together. How's it going? How's it feel? Feels great. He's finally got the justice he's deserved.
SPEAKER 09 :
Did you think it was going to happen?
SPEAKER 07 :
Sorry? No, we think that this should have happened probably on day one, but the point thing is it happened. So we can't control the timing of it, but we can certainly savor the outcome.
SPEAKER 13 :
I do believe in the sanctity of life. And I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately, you know, because it feels like... Serious?
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean... Joy in a man's execution?
SPEAKER 13 :
Maybe not joy, but certainly not, no, certainly not empathy. Because again... We're watching the footage.
SPEAKER 03 :
How can this make you joyful? This guy's a husband. It's like a montage of stupidity this morning. He's being young down in the middle of Manhattan.
SPEAKER 13 :
Why is that making joy for him? It's a montage of stupidity.
SPEAKER 02 :
We get a weird news cycle. We do. Welcome to the show. We have a very weird news cycle where we're covering a million different things today. And make sure that you sign up for the newsletter, too, because there's all kinds of stuff that I put out regularly on that. And it's all good stuff that you're going to need to to keep you up to speed with everything. But so much. We've got this this this killer, this I guess you could call him assassin. Right. The assassin, the CEO, the United Health Care CEO. That guy was arrested. The guy who's everybody's name. They're like, it's Luigi. Right. We've got all of this stuff with foreign policy. And then, of course, we've got domestic. And then we've got this ongoing just meltdown of the left, which I which I feel like they're trying to make a big deal. I got to say, I was having this conversation with a friend of mine last night. I feel like they're trying to make a big deal of like some of these nominees, et cetera, because they. And they don't have anything left. And they haven't even done a postmortem, which, you know, you know that they have not even done a postmortem of why it is that they lost and what can they do to make things better. They haven't even done that. So it's just I don't know. It's it's it's it's and then we're going to the Christmas season. It's a weird, weird, weird news cycle. All right. So welcome to the show. Dana Lash here with you at the top of this first hour. And a number of stuff, like I said, that we're going to be touching on. And you heard some of it just right off the top. Some of the stuff that we're going to be touching on. So first and foremost, I think, where do we start? Let's look at some of the cabinet stuff. Because I feel as though those fights are over. Even though they're still in the press, I feel like those fights are over. Am I alone in thinking that? I mean, you still have the headlines and you're still going to have the confirmation process. But by and large, I think those fights are over. I don't think that I think Republicans are understanding the the importance of making sure they hit the ground running in January. I mean, at least I hope so. But it feels like they because they know that it really just does feel like that. I think except for heads Hegsgoth. I think his fight, his fight is mostly over, too, I think. Do you think that Trump is behind him enough? I think he could have come out with a little bit of a stronger statement. But do you think that he's behind him enough? I don't know. Million dollar question, right? He might be. Maybe. We'll see. But what else are they going to what else are they going to object to? What else is there to object to? Everything that has been put out about him is out. What else left is there? For real. I mean, what else could you possibly have left? Nothing. Nothing. I was reading about this... Some of the momentum of it. Because you had, I think it was what, Punchbowl News that said that it looks like he's going to be successful with his bid. Punchbowl News reporting that I thought was pretty significant. And then Joni Ernst yesterday, didn't she come out and say that she... Was happy or that she's she met with him and she felt that they had good conversation. And as a result, she feels confident going forward, etc. And she supports him and all this stuff. I don't know if the pressure campaign had anything to do with that. I think some people are giving themselves way more credit than they deserve. I don't think that there was any kind of influence or pressure campaign that did that. I think it was maybe her just talking to him. I don't know. Because she never had a campaign against him. That's what I don't understand. These people are like, oh, well, she was railing against him. Was she, though? I never saw her doing that. Correct me if I'm wrong, Kane, which I don't think I am. I'm not saying that just to be... You know, just for the lack of anything better. I mean, it just I she did not have a campaign against him at all. So this and we'll come back to this because there's the rest of the cabinet picks like, you know, it's like it's by and large, it's it's. it's they're kind of the rest of them are kind of boring if i'm being honest i mean it's all important you can go read about it but i'm not going to sit here and regale you with tales about you know some of these lower these like lower in influence positions now one of the other things that uh where everybody's watching is the latest with this assassin i don't know i got i think i have even more questions about this guy right do you have any tinfoil for this cane It's just weird. It's a weird story. This is a weird dude.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, no doubt about it. And seeing the family worth and the value and the fact that they actually had a hand in health care.
SPEAKER 02 :
Was he just acting out?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I don't really know the narrative. You can see the narrative being built, though. And then they put the picture out yesterday of the weapon. Remember that? Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's all coming together, the story.
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I do think it's weird that the left, and this is one of the video cuts that we played coming in to set us up with this. It was a little weird that the left was like, well, their attitude, this cavalier attitude as though the guy deserved it because he worked with health care. That's weird. How far off are you that you feel like this guy deserved to get axed because, right? Yeah. It's weird. He comes, his background, this dude's background, his family. I don't know. It makes me want to ask, was he on psychotropic drugs? I've got questions. But the pictures are interesting because some of the pictures, like the one that Juan just showed, he looks like relatively happy and kind of normal, right? But then there are these other photos like his mugshot. Well, of course, you know, it's his mugshot right after he gets murdered or he murdered somebody. But there's the those where he just looks like he's dead in the eyes. Right. I'm not going to tell you. Well, I'm going to tell it. So because I don't want to be so news heavy that you guys are just drowning because I don't because you guys are going into Christmas. Half of you are drunk on eggnog right now. Let me be real with you. So, so hold up. So hold up. So my gradient, my gradient messages on Facebook last night, right? And I never check my Facebook messages. I can't, I just, I'm not going to check. I can't stand to check Facebook messages. I don't like messages. I was so excited when, you know, texting became a thing when I was like growing up. And like, remember when you're growing up and you're, you're young adult and you get email and email's the coolest thing ever. Now I'm like, why do people connect me out? Try to call me on these devices. Leave me the hell alone. So anyway, my gradient. I don't know. And I looked it up and normally I don't do this, but I looked it up and it was a legit photo. It was his mugshot. And then the photo that Juan had shown where he was smiling and my gradient was like, he's dead in the eyes. Look, something happened. She's like, he's dead in the eyes. I'm like, it could be the lighting, you know, it could be some of the lighting. So Juan's showing the photo. And my gradient was like, his eyes, he looks alive in this photo. And then the mugshot photo, it was like a meme that was side by side. And then this mugshot. She's like, look at him. He's dead in the eyes. I'm like, well, he did just kill somebody. So she has this thing that he was like recruited by some shady group to axe this guy. And that he was turned or something. I don't know. That's my gradient. That's, you know, that's gradient bees. You know, that's her contribution to this topic. No, you don't. I am never letting the two of you talk, ever. It's never going to happen. You think that you're a tinfoil? You haven't met tinfoil. She's made of it, literally. She doesn't listen to me.
SPEAKER 05 :
Why wouldn't you suggest that friendship?
SPEAKER 02 :
She does her church stuff in the afternoon.
SPEAKER 05 :
Why wouldn't you suggest that friendship?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I'm not doing that because you and my mother are bad enough. Anyway, I mean, he did just murder somebody, so it's probably why he looks dead in the eyes. I'm just saying, right? Yeah, I feel like that's a pretty safe thing to say. So, I don't know. As this information comes out, because now they're trying to argue, oh, well, you know, he had a ghost gun. He had a ghost gun. He had a 3D printed silencer. Ghost gun silencer. Oh, the trick words are coming out. Oh, boy. Yeah. Oh, man. It means his gun was totally silent. You know that, right? Yeah. Yeah. I just there's a lot of gun control talk coming up from this guy. I just want to put it out there. I saw this last night. The Hill had a piece where they were talking about his ghost gun. Oh, you knew this was going to come. You knew some way they were going to make it. They were going to make about it. They're going to make this about it. So the. He was he used what he used to suppress her and he had one of those ghost guns. Now, what does that mean? You guys know what a ghost gun is, right? It's a stupid made up term. That's dumb. That's what it is. I don't know if you knew that, but that's what it is. So a ghost gun is, this is a legal thing to do. You are, you can be a hobbyist and you can make a firearm and you can use it, you know, your own, for your own personal uses. You can use it for whatever you want. You just can't sell it, obviously. You can shoot with it. You just can't sell it. then you have to get it serialized. That's an actual law. And so what the argument is and what I see with the narrative that I see developing around this story is that, oh, well, here's another example of ghost guns. We're going to have to make it to where any hobbyism surrounding firearms is completely criminalized. We need to criminalize it. We also need to make sure we keep suppressors on lock. I see this story developing. And the way that they put it, oh, he had a suppressor. He had a silencer. It makes it totally quiet when he's shooting his victims. I actually saw blue checks, people who work in media who are talking about this yesterday. I'm just going to say keep a bookmark on this. Keep a note on this because this is going to come up and it's going to stay at the top of the heap as it pertains to gun control. uh but you really you don't see a lot of gangbangers out there with this guy's background and that's who drives a lot of the crime they're not printing guns out they're not printing and by the way ghost gun you're not 3d printing a gun 3d printing a gun still maybe you're going to be lucky you get a couple rounds out of it i mean it's still you're talking about black market acquired firearms or you can get kits and you can make them at home but again using anything in commission of a crime is a crime, including if it's a gun that somebody made at home. And if you're selling it, you have to serialize it. That's federal law. This has already been established for quite some time. There's no new ground that they're covering here for which there isn't already federal law. I just want to make that point. I'm going to come back to this because there are several other aspects of the story that are striking. Also, The latest with Syria. And we're going to get into it. We've got a whole bunch of stuff to get into. It's kind of what the news cycle is weird. And we've got stories that are totally unrelated and all over the place. But we're going to try to organize them for you the best we can to make sure that you're set up. Life can take a toll on our bodies. There's no way around it. And whether it's just sitting for hours on end at your computer or if you're working a physical job, over time, your body pays the price. There is, however, an effective way to turn back the clock on pain. Relief Factor. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor helps support your body's response to inflammation. And the difference, instead of just masking pain, Relief Factor helps eliminate it for good, and it's 100% drug-free. My husband Chris has taken Relief Factor with incredible results. So if the pains that come with living a full life are affecting you, do as many others have done and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. Their three-week quick start is just $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. And when you feel good, it's amazing how much more you get out of life. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Try it for only $19.95 and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. ReliefFactor.com.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Yay, it's another disease. No, wait, I don't mean that. Disease X outbreak widens as the UN is sending a health team to Congo. Oh, what is it? It's a zombie disease. You're all going to be zombies. We're all going to be eating brains in the desert. I'm joking. It's over 400 cases of an unidentified illness marked by fever, headache, cough, runny nose, body aches. It's in, I don't know, it's in the health zone in southwest Congo. And they said that a 50-year-old man was hospitalized in Lucca, Italy. He's recovered from the disease after a business trip to Congo. It sounds like it's just a bad upper respiratory thing. It sounds like a cold. Kane, it's a cold. What are you telling me okay for? It's a cold.
SPEAKER 05 :
The next story.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, you said okay. Like, yeah, sure it is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I mean, the next story is interesting.
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SPEAKER 11 :
You know, doesn't that, I just feel like that, that tells us everything. If we do not want violence on our subways and the point of our justice system, Hmm. What?
SPEAKER 02 :
So first off, that's AOC who's talking about Daniel Penny. And she's saying in this audio, the verdict that came out yesterday, that the subway is going to be safer if we just lock him up. I am so tired of the violent criminals getting the pass and then blaming the innocent people that stand up and do something to stop the violence. Stop it. Stop blaming. Daniel Penny did not do a damn thing wrong. He has nothing to feel remorseful about. You know who should feel remorseful? People like AOC. Girl, where are you a lawmaker at? You're a lawmaker in New York City, girl. Why have you not done anything about the lawlessness and disorder? Crime has increased in Manhattan by a significant amount. I wrote about this, made mention of it in my piece last night that I sent out on Substack. It has increased significantly. Violent crime, rape, assault, all of that, robbery, all of this has increased dramatically. And you know who's not responsible for that? Daniel Penny. You know who is, though? After the criminals, when New York City doesn't lock people up, when you slap people on the wrist and they're allowed to walk free, You know, Daniel Penny wasn't the only, and we've talked about this case before, but I want to come back to it. He wasn't the only case that was like this. You guys remember Tommy Bailey, right? I talked about him and subsequent pieces and previous pieces. I mean, you had a guy who saw a female cop being attacked and he stood up for the female cop and he ended up being stabbed. And you know what the city said? The city's lawyer said, well, you know, and this is true because there's two court cases now, three really, that establish this precedent. They said, well, police have no obligation at all whatsoever to protect you. No obligation whatsoever. This particular dad, because you have Mr. Bailey, this particular dad was Joseph Lozito. He was trying to subdue a madman, Maxim Gelman, and he stopped him, but he ended up getting injured. And police said, oh, you know, the court, the state said, police don't have a right to, they don't have to help you. They don't have to protect you. They don't have to do anything like that. That's crazy. That's crazy. Or Tommy Bailey. He was the guy who... The Brooklyn dad who was stabbed. Alvin Charles was charged. Alvin Charles, 43 years old. He stabbed Tommy Bailey to death. Attacked him. Stabbed the dad in the neck. And you know how... They've had this, I don't even want to call it justice. They don't even have a system there. Alvin Charles should have been in jail already. He had a long rap sheet. He should have been in jail for a long way. I mean, they have no idea why he was able to, you know, be out. He was able, but that's New York, right? Look what they did to the, who was it? Jose Alba. Remember Jose Alba? Jose Alba defended himself against a guy that was going to kill him, rob him and kill him. And Jose Alba defended himself with a blade and they sent him to Rikers. And then it was only after extreme pressure did they allow Alba to walk free, to go, because he was defending himself. You're punished if you defend your life. You can be wrestling with an attacker right in front of police in New York and New York State and New York City. They're like, yeah, no, our police don't have to get involved. What do you think is going to happen? AOC is part of the problem. How long has she been quiet about these issues? She represents part of the damn city. She knows crime has increased. She knows there are certain parts of that city she won't walk around in by herself at night. I've gone to Manhattan for years and years and years for work. Years. Since I was in my 20s, I've been going to Manhattan. It used to be kind of fun. And then it just started getting bad again. And I was talking to folks who've been there their whole lives and they're like, you know, it's starting to get like it was before Rudy. It's starting to get like it was when they had all that crime in the 80s. And they were saying, yeah, you don't remember this or you're too young, but it was real bad in the 70s and 80s here. And then they were talking about how Giuliani was helping to clean up the city, etc. And they had some new reforms put in. Now they said it's all sliding back to how it was. Everybody is leaving. I cannot tell you the number of people I've met in the past few years that have left New York City and they've moved to either Florida or Texas. They have left business owners like successful people, people who aren't in business for themselves. Every single type of line of work you can imagine, every demographic you can imagine. People are fleeing that state and they're fleeing that city. If they lived in the city, they don't want to be in the state. Once they've lived in the city, they want out. When you look at the crime there, they forced Daniel Penny into that position. So to hear somebody like AOC say, well, we need to keep Daniel Penny. Why don't you do your damn job and use the influence that you have instead of trying to act smart on TikTok? Why don't you, I don't know, maybe go out in a meet space in your own borough and try to do something about the crime there. Encourage prosecutors to maybe actually charge people the full amount they can charge them. No plea deals that allow these perps to walk. Maybe use your influence for good instead of just bitching on social media 24-7. It was like in St. Louis. You guys remember the story? And you remember this, Kim. We talked about it. That's when Kim Gardner was still in as the DA there. Soros back Kim Gardner. She's not there anymore. But this is when she was still there. Do you remember in St. Louis, downtown St. Louis, on Cherokee Street, out in broad daylight, Cinco de Mayo. And there's video of it. There is literally a still of it. Where you had two people who opened fire in the middle of the street. Broad daylight. You see the chick with a gun. She's got a gun in her hand. Open fire. Broad daylight. Firing off shots. Injured somebody. The man violated terms of his bond. He wasn't taken into custody. What in the world? They didn't charge them. They did not charge these two people despite the fact that they are literally on video firing guns at people. You remember this story, Kane? This is what I'm talking about. I mean, New York really isn't that much different. This is a crazy story. You have this, you have Jose Alba, and this isn't just St. Louis or New York. This is like so, this is everywhere. Everywhere. So do you hear her? Well, you know, it would be safer if we locked up people like Daniel Penny. It would be safer, actually, if we locked up people like you. So you're prevented from encouraging the rot that is restorative justice. People like you who fail to fulfill their duty to the oath of office through which they swear. Daniel Penny was forced into that position. I am not going to have my right to self-defense sacrificed at the altar of identity politics. And I'm not going to be brainwashed into thinking that lethal force is off the table when a criminal would use lethal force against me to subdue me. And I sure as hell am not going to be told that because I refuse to be the victim that I am the aggressor. Not going to happen. There's a war on self-defense in this country, and it has nothing to do with guns, really. Guns are just one of the variables, one of the ways at which they attack it. But this, I wrote about this, again, if you get this piece. I don't know why they want to prop up this Neely as a saint. Do you know, I always make mention that he had busted an elderly woman's nose, broke her orbital socket, he broke the bone in her face by her eye. there were two instances. I left one out. He had also broken an elderly man's nose in 2019. He was arrested 42 times in eight years. He broke an elderly man's nose in 2019. And that was two months after he broke the elderly woman's orbital bone. And then in 2015, he was arrested for trying to kidnap a seven-year-old. So there's all records for this. He's got, and he had another, he had an active warrant out for a different assault the day that he met Penny.
SPEAKER 1 :
Hmm.
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Where was AOC during this whole time? Because you know some of the crimes that he committed, also the assault that he had the active warrant out for was recent. It was fresh. Where was she at? Oh, we got to stop these people from assaulting other individuals, passengers on the subway. They don't say anything until someone's forced to step in. It's just asinine. Now, a few other things I want to make sure that we're touching on, too. Because we were been discussing the this health care CEO's assassination. This is such a weird story. And of course, you know, at first it was like, it's odd. The guy's got this Ivy League background. And then and then I thought, of course, he's got an Ivy League background. Does that mean to think? Because of course he does. And apparently, if you play six degrees of separation, Steve is in what, like two degrees out from this dude? And I was asking Steve on break, is it a mob hit? What was it? What was it? But this dude, this Luigi Mangione, super wealthy family, Ivy League educated. He had multiple degrees. He... was apparently lefty. I think people have been trying to portray him as like being right-leaning, but he followed AOC. He followed a bunch of people on the left. He really was an anti-capitalist. He was into the climate stuff. He loved the Unabombers. Work his written word, I guess. He apparently left a four star review on Kaczynski, one of Kaczynski's things that he wrote. So, yeah, he's not a right leaning person. And I know the left only wants to be able to say, oh, well, this is somebody on the right. That's all. But none of it fits. None of it fits. I mean, the guy was clearly angry at this health care CEO for something wrong. I don't know. Maybe he got tired of hearing that, you know, insurance. I don't know. I don't know what it was. I don't know what. It's so weird. It's such a weird story. The family's very quiet. No word from them. Very quiet family. Nothing, but they're very, they're very well healed. He doesn't look the part and it doesn't fit the part. It's just very odd. But something had to, something. But this dude wasn't on the right. Could he have been a disgruntled customer? I don't know. What he wrote on the shell casings in that book that was critical of the health insurance industry is like the only insight that anybody has. But then if you're critical of the health, I mean, it couldn't have been something that had to do with affordability because he came from a super rich family. That was never going to be an issue for him. So, I don't know. I would love another press conference for some insight on this, right? But I feel as though if they don't think that the narrative is, if the narrative compromises anything that, you know, with the left, I feel like we're not ever going to know. It's just weird what we find out, the cases that we find everything out about, and then we learn everything about the perp, and then the cases where you don't hear anything else about the perp. Like the dude who tried to kill Trump. You don't really hear a lot about him either, do you? Nope. Interesting how quickly they scuttled that. Think about how often you've heard January 6th and how the left has tried to make January 6th like the thing. We had a guy who literally tried to assassinate the president-elect of the United States. And the left is like, well, I don't have nothing to say. If it had been them, oh my gosh. We have days of these United States on the way. And also coming up, a few things. I read about how there were a bunch of these Intel officials that signed this letter against Tulsi Gabbard. They don't want her to be the Intel chief. 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Yeah, I wonder why that is. Why don't the salaries go that far? That was Kathy Hochul, the governor of New York. She's proposing $3 billion in direct payments to 8.6 million residents to fight inflation. Oh, is that going to fight it? Yeah. It's not going to make it worse? No, it's Democrat math, you know. It's going to fight it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Hold on. It's Democrat math. I love how she literally pulled back the curtain or unveiled, sorry, the check. She's like, yeah, look, it's like $500. States don't cause inflation, though, because they don't print money and they don't do that. Your taxes can make it worse if you have tons of taxes, which New York does. Wow. So she wants to pay everybody off. $300 to $500. I think $500 is the max. Hey, will they get a 1099 from the IRS on top of it? Let us help you. We're going to send you money we're going to take half of. We got more on this. I think they get dumber. I really feel like they get dumber. Stick with us. We got a lot more on the way. Burna Gun thinks gun-free zone signs are stupid. Burna Gun thinks waiting periods are also dumb. And Burna Gun doesn't care. It goes to all 50 states. You can have it right at your front door, which is awesome. If you are one of those individuals where you sometimes have to leave your house and sometimes you have to go to gun-free zones, even though you don't want to, but it's not a choice, you want to make sure that you can still protect yourself, especially if you are in a lawless and disorder area. And this is where Burna comes in. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. Stun guns, they only got one or two rounds. Burna SD, the most popular model, has five rounds. and there's no recoil, quick target acquisition, you can have a super fast response in a high-pressure situation as well. So you still have means of protecting yourself. And I'm always about diversifying your defensive tactics tools. I think it's very important, especially like I said, when you got to go to places that are, you know, considered gun-free zones. So they've, this is like, the Berna SD is the most popular model, over 400,000 units sold. And again, no waiting period, no background check, legal in all 50 states. It's the Berna SD. It's their best-selling model. And it's a great, a great diverse option, another alternative option for self-defense. I always carry. I tell people I'm not afraid of lethal force, of using lethal force on folks that are trying to harm me. But when I am barred from carrying, and sometimes I am because of work, this is, I want to have something that is going to be more than just one or two rounds. Berna SD gives you five. So check it out. Berna dot com slash Dana. B-Y-R-N-A. Berna.com slash Dana for 10% off.
SPEAKER 09 :
Get really dangerous.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm going to phrase it slightly differently, and you guys can tell me if I'm completely wrong in saying it this way. You know, later in the night, we're also going to talk about Penny and the verdict there. There you also have a victim who somebody determined did not deserve to continue living. No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, tell me.
SPEAKER 16 :
Tell me which vigilante action is okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
What do you mean vigilante action? Someone's not allowed to defend themselves? So, no, it was Jordan Neely who decided that Daniel Penny and everyone else on that in the subway at the time that they could not just exist peacefully. He was in their faces threatening them. Why do these people assist in the violence of these these absolute thugs? So I don't know who this broad is on CNN, and I don't care to learn her name because her opinions are so stupid. She's not going to last long in this industry. So it doesn't matter that we know her name or even note the spelling of it. She's just another stupid opinion that is, you know, platformed by CNN. That being said, the idea that that. something was done to him as opposed to he was doing things to other people that they did not deserve that made them feel unsafe and was frankly dangerous. And so they were defended. Why do people omit that? I find that disgusting. You're a racist if you're omitting that. When I hear people talk about this story, the first thing I do is when I hear that they completely omit Jordan Neely's criminal actions, his violent record, the fact that he was threatening to kill people, including mothers and children on the subway platform, I can't take those people seriously anymore. There's not a conversation worth happening. Those people think that women can get raped and get assaulted and their children can get kidnapped and everything else and that none of those people can do anything to stop it because if they do, they're infringing on the right of the criminal to take advantage of them. That's what this is. I guess some of these progressives think that depending on what your skin color is, you have a right to hurt other people. That's the God's honest truth of it. That's fact. They honestly believe this. They think that in order to settle the score, some people got to be hurt. So they believe. I'd say prove me wrong, but you'd waste your time because there's no I'm right. It's the truth of it. I just can't believe that, you know, he wasn't a victim. He was victimizing other people, but he wasn't a victim. That's like blaming, you know, your skirt's too short or something like that. It's just asinine. What the hell is wrong with these people? What the hell is wrong with some of these people on the left? Seriously. I don't want to ever hear those people complain if they are put in a position where they have to defend themselves. Because they're trying to criminalize defense and say that depending on the person's ethnicity, you can't defend yourself because that's racist. Now, defending yourself from attack is racist? If you're a woman trying to shield your baby in a stroller from a guy screaming that he's going to kill you, it's racist if you defend yourself or someone else defends you? Why don't you try that with your family? I dare say none of these people who take that position would like it if they found themselves a victim of Jordan Neely. And apparently there were a lot of them. 42 arrests in eight years. He battered old people. He broke bones and faces of elderly people. He tried to kill a woman by shoving her on the subway tracks. He tried to kidnap a seven year old. Oh, these were arrests. Absolutely. There's a record for him. His family was nowhere to be found until they smelled money. It's just a horrible, horrible take from these people. And then you have... We were talking about... We played this last hour, Audio Sunbite 7, but Taylor Lorenz, when she was... Taylor Lorenz, she's like some 50-year-old who pretended that she was 30. So it seemed less ridiculous if she wrote about Taylor Swift. And she's... She got fired from Vox or something like that. I don't know what her appeal is other than she's a good avatar for the stupidity on the left and it makes for content that you can work around. But there were enough people on the left that said that they enjoyed or that they celebrated or that they felt joy over... watching the CEO be gunned down in the middle of the street. Listen to this, I'll give somebody seven.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately, you know, because it feels like- Serious?
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean- Joy in a man's execution?
SPEAKER 13 :
Maybe not joy, but certainly not, no, certainly not empathy. Because again- We're watching the footage.
SPEAKER 03 :
How can this make you joyful? This guy's a husband, he's a father, and he's being gunned down in the middle of Manhattan. Why is that making you joyful?
SPEAKER 13 :
So are the tens of thousands of Americans that are being murdered. So are the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans, who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one push policies of denying care.
SPEAKER 02 :
She's like somebody who read one missive, one essay about health insurance in college, and now she thinks she's an expert. What is she even talking about? So because she doesn't like the way health insurance works, and by the way, health insurance is that way because you stupid morons, the Taylor Lorenzes of the world, make it that way. We could have it be portable. We could have it to where you could make insurance companies compete and you could purchase across state lines, et cetera, et cetera, carry it with you wherever. But you know who fought against that? Democrats did. Democrats fought against it. They were the ones who barred that. That was Republicans that were trying to make that happen before Obamacare was passed. They had like 13 other proposals for all the people who get out there and say Republicans had no proposals to Obamacare. Those people who say that aren't educated enough to be included in this big kid conversation. The people who say that didn't pay attention enough to their own government. And so they need to stay out of this conversation and let people who do know what happened actually continue on the merits of fact. Because there were 13 alternatives to Obamacare, and every single one of them were shot down by Democrats who controlled everything. And numerous proposals included the portability, you know, keeping it untethered from your work. It's asinine that your job has to provide you with your health insurance. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. You should be able to get it for yourself. It should be affordable. And you should be able to use it like you do car insurance or something. The other reason is people use insurance wrong. That drives up the cost, too. The dumb Taylor Lorenzes of the world. 50 years old, and you act like a 15-year-old bimbo. I don't get it. Like, what the hell's wrong with you? Like, arrested development, that one. Oh, I don't feel bad. Make sure you quote me accurately, Media Matters, and then please make note that I don't have enough middle fingers to give you salutes. You George Soros lotion boys. Anyway. It's true. Let's be real. This... Joy that you feel you created the situation. He's just running one of the companies and you created the regulations in which he has to operate. You created the framework. He has to operate in that framework. Why are they mad? They're mad because of what they created. They're mad because they don't like the conditions of insurance. They're mad because they made it a hellscape. Just so dumb. And Obamacare is trash. It absolutely is trash. But that's what, you know, and the other difference, and Cain noted this, to even compare the health care CEO to Jordan Ely is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. The CEO had no idea what was happening. He was walking in a different direction. And this cowardly trust fund socialist came up behind him and shot him. Jordan Neely was threatening to murder people. In their faces. After he's already tried to murder people. So this is just not even. This is so goofy. But they felt joy. They felt joy. I bet she would have felt joy. I bet if they watched, if there had been footage of Jordan Neely... threatening to kill people and getting in the faces of these women, scaring the babies that were on the subway train, on the subway car. I bet that the Taylor Lorenzes of the world would have felt joy at that too, wouldn't they have? Because they're psychos. Would they have felt joy watching a mother try to shield her child as Jordan Ely was screaming about how he was going to kill them all? Does that get them off? It makes me wonder. These people are that messed up. How messed up are you that you actually have that enthusiasm? over that kind of stuff. These people have a screw loose. And I'm not talking about the Jordan Ely's. I'm talking about like the CNN lady and this bra that we just played on Piers Morgan's whatever. What the hell is the matter with you? You soulless cretins. Y'all need Jesus and a Bible for Christmas. That's what y'all need. Good night. It's just aggravating. It actually makes me enraged. It makes me enraged. Meanwhile, Daniel Penny and his lawyers were interviewed by the New York Post. They were celebrating his not guilty verdict. And you know what? It was weird because I was watching all the video footage of this where they were, I guess they stopped by at a bar and had a celebratory pint. And he still is very, and I'm going to use the word correctly, Gen Z, demure. And he's just very polite and he doesn't really talk a lot. And he says hi. And then he walks away and his lawyer talks for, you know, most of the stuff that I've seen. Watch this. This is audio somebody five.
SPEAKER 06 :
How you feeling? Yeah. He's feeling good. He's feeling good. He's feeling good. What's up? Come together. How's it going? How's it feel? Feels great. He's finally got the justice he's deserved.
SPEAKER 09 :
Did you think it was going to happen?
SPEAKER 07 :
Sorry?
SPEAKER 09 :
And he walked out. Good for him.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, we think that this is... He didn't ask for any of this.
SPEAKER 02 :
He seems like a very reluctant hero, too. And You know, you had those BLM people who were screaming about him not being safe in the city. You know, one of the things that people don't don't remember is that when the jury was made up of predominantly women. And it was black and white. And every single one of the jurors voted to acquit him. So all the people who weren't there in that courtroom and the people who weren't there around for Neely this entire time, maybe they should, you know, shut up about that because these people were, they saw everything and good for him. He just kind of, I don't think that you're going to see him. I know he's talking to Jean, Jeanine Piero, but I don't think you're going to like see or hear him. I don't think he's going to pop up like on the lecture circuit or anything like that. He seems like a very reluctant kind of hero, doesn't he? And, um, Not at all how the left needs him to be in order to make their narratives work. Shame on them. Always ready. ReadyWise is always ready. And they have the best premium survival food that's out there. Everything else, there's just, look, I gotta be honest with you. Survival food doesn't have to taste so bad. And you guys know what I'm talking about because some of it is really bad. ReadyWise is not like that. This is premium survival food, but it's affordable. They have an array of product choices to meet every budget. like the emergency one-month supply, the two-bucket bundle that they have. They have a three-month emergency food supply. Everything they have is designed by their team of in-house culinary experts because they're meeting your nutritional needs while also providing excellent variety. And you know your chain of command for your food from start to finish. U.S. ingredients packed in a U.S. plant, sent out to your doorstep. So you know where your food's coming from, plus you get free and fast shipping on most orders, making sure that your U.S. provisions reach you promptly. And they just provide better taste. I mean, these are actual meals that taste good because they're real meals. And it's all with ReadyWise 25-year shelf life. This is comfort in a crisis and beyond. Visit ReadyWise.com and use promo code Dana20 at checkout for 20% off of your entire purchase. That's ReadyWise.com. Promo code Dana20 for 20% off.
SPEAKER 05 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick 5.
SPEAKER 02 :
So the Guardian, which is a left leaning POS over in Britain, says that the college enrollment rate is falling at a concerning or the college enrollment levels dropping at a concerning rate. Fewer 18 year olds are enrolling, especially at four year schools. But the number of applications continues to grow. I think there needs to be a reworking of the college system entirely. I think it's absolutely stupid. It's a racket. I think that they try to charge you thousands of dollars to take stupid, idiotic humanities classes that do nothing to enrich one's mind, further one's education, or have anything to do with their major at all whatsoever. And I think that if any college receives any kind of federal money and they require these students to take these stupid courses as part of their education, what their degree coursework, they should be penalized personally. I mean, honestly, it's really as stupid. The way we run higher education is one of the dumbest aspects of this country. It really is. And thanks left. Thanks for doing that. Thanks for consolidating all of the tuition and the loans and driving up costs for everybody. Tokyo adopts a four day work week because they're desperate that women have more kids. They do have a huge issue over there as it relates to their population size. Their population growth has been super slow. They said their fertility rate plummeted to a record low of 1.2 in 2023. Super low fertility rate. So they're implementing a four day work week for their employees beginning next year, offering them three day weekends and family friendly options. And they said that they have to do it to support families. Also, you know, it's a cultural thing and an economic thing. If you could have more families live comfortably on one income, you would probably see more. If you had lower taxation and less government spending, you would probably see more able to make that choice. And I think that not just here in the United States, but I think that that goes for any any country, any anybody, because it's this is something that's affecting everybody around the world. Here they go. Here they're setting up the narrative. Telegraph, another left-leaning POS in Britain. America's economy risks massive Trump slump. They're setting Trump up to, I told you this was going to happen. We both told you. Kane and I told you. We talked about this, Kane, what, for weeks. They're going to do this. They said, here's the first sentence. Donald Trump risks tipping the U.S. into recession if he follows through with the promises made on the campaign trail. So for Republicans, here's why Doge is going to have, and we'll talk more about this. Here's why Doge is going to have its work cut out for them. Even if they were to suggest all of these cuts to Congress, Congress still has to vote to implement them. That's number one. Number two. You see these headlines? That's just the start of it. If you have Republicans actually commit to austerity and reduce government spending and lower taxes, they're going to hammer the GOP with headlines like these. Absolutely. They're going to hammer them with these headlines. And look what happened in Greece when they just tried to implement austerity. People were riding in the streets. So, just saying. That's something to think about. This... Study says regularly posting on social media may worsen mental health in adults. Oh, I completely agree that. I completely agree with that. In fact, there's most adults, I think, on social media. Not us, but everybody else. I think that they live up to this headline hype. Stick with us. Our partners over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. Patriot Mobile has a ton of affordable plans. that will work for families of any sizes businesses of any sizes and right now you can get their every friday matters special they're giving away a brand new smartphone when you when you make the switch and it's easy to make the switch they have a 100 us-based customer service team they're going to make it easy keep your current number you can get a new one it's whatever you want to do but you'll get a free smartphone as part of the offer using promo code friday and uh when you switch you're only supporting the things that you vote to protect with your money patriot mobile doesn't work against you and it's great to have a like-minded company like this especially when it's the only one of the cell phone services that are like this so it's a free smartphone offer eligible only using promo code friday as part of their every friday matter special limited time or until supplies run out terms and conditions apply make the switch That's PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT.
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Look, let's start with the common ground. Just like some Americans commit crimes, there are some immigrants that have committed crimes. If they're going to provide additional assistance from the federal government to track down, apprehend, and deport people who have committed crimes in our country, we are happy to cooperate, help however we can.
SPEAKER 02 :
I was so distracted by the bright... McDonald-like green of Jen Psaki's jacket that I almost missed the stupidity that was Jared Polis just then, or Polis in that soundbite. Like what in the green screen color hell is that? Stop it. First off, it's not spring. And that Kelly green is a spring color. Oh, this is where Dana gets really. I turn into like all my great my great aunts and my granny. Girl, that is not a color that you'd be wearing in December. It is Kelly green. It is not an evergreen. So that is a spring tone. All right. Now, can I touch on what you're... First off, welcome back. Dana Lash with you. Chats at Rumble, 347, DirecTV, Watch Us Everywhere, X, etc. This is Jared Police saying, well, we're happy to track the people who commit crimes, but not for the people who follow the law. Talking about people who come into the country. Duh! That... If you come into the country illegally, newsflash, you just broke a law. Just like you can't go into a store and get a five-finger discount. You know what I'm saying? That's also breaking a law. You can't bust up into someone's house uninvited. That's also breaking the law. I mean, you can't enter places like other countries, people's homes. There's a process. See what I'm saying? And if you don't follow that process, that doesn't make the people saying you broke the law bad. It makes the people who broke the law bad. I can't believe you got to spell it out like in Elmo terms. How much do I have to tell you people? I mean, like, you know, do I got to use puppets? Don't enter illegally. I mean, how difficult is that? I'm not doing it anymore. I'm not doing that voice again. So don't ask. No. So he's happy to track the people who committed crimes, not the people who follow the law. Good job, Jared. You figured it out. That's what we already do. That's how this works. I don't get him. Am I missing something? Did I miss something? That's like the dumbest thing. And then you have this. Dick Durbin. Audio soundbite 12, please.
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In addition to weakening our military, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars to deport every undocumented immigrant in our country. It would damage our economy and separate American families. Instead, we should focus on deporting those who are truly a danger to America. And we should give the rest a chance to earn legal status.
SPEAKER 02 :
He's like audible melatonin. He's like the opposite of an energy. Well, he's not like an energy vampire. He just puts you to sleep. He's audible melatonin, Dick Durbin. We should give lawful status to, I love this phrase, all non-criminal illegal immigrants. That's like saying non-criminal shoplifting. Non-criminal grand theft auto. If you, again, enter the country illegally, that's a crime. In Pig Latin, it's called a rhyme K. It's a crime. It's a crimity McCrime. That's how you say it in Scottish. So I don't know what he's talking about. Lawful status to people who broke the law a little bit. I mean, you break the law or you don't break the law. If you come in legally, you're not breaking the law. If you come in illegally, then it's you broke the law. Thus the word illegally. Why is this so hard for these people to understand? Are they racist? Do they think that people who are coming to the United States from other countries, do they think that they're unable to enter illegally, to enter the legal way? I mean, it's not difficult, you know. I mean, unless you're coming across the border and trying to dodge cartels and sneak across the Rio. I mean, you're not going to... It's not... You're not going to sneak in any other way? I don't get it. What's the... Trump was saying that, which I... The DACA thing, we talked about that yesterday. But he further explained his point. He was saying, well, if you... Talking about family units. He's like, I don't want to separate families. So if you've got two people that can stay here and one can't, that one's got to go back. But if you want to stay together, you all got to go back. Okay, that's perfectly reasonable. That's actually how it should be. I shouldn't even have to say that's perfectly reasonable. That's just how it should be. But reason is... We have a deficit of reason almost more than anything else. Just... I don't know. Just wild, wild, wild positions. And that makes sense though. But I just... I got to get over this whole thing that... this assumption that they treat legal entry and illegal entry like it's the exact same thing.
SPEAKER 1 :
It's not.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's totally not. I mean, you guys know this, but, you know. All right, a few other things to touch on and pull up some stuff here. Okay, so we got to talk about some of the Christmas stuff. And particularly... Two things with... Well, one's with the Pope. I don't know if you saw the creche, where they have like this... It's sort of like a giant diorama. I don't know how else to put it. It's usually like a biblical story laid out in a scene. It's like a 3D thing. It's called a creche. And in... With Pope Francis, apparently, I guess they put one up and pull this up. He inaugurated a new nativity scene, Southern Missouri, I call it nativity, called Bethlehem 2024. It's in the lobby of the Vatican. Now, okay, that all sounds well and good, right? You've got a nativity in the lobby of the Vatican. I've been in the lobby of the Vatican. It's huge, huge area. So they put this and Juan's showing you the photo of it. Notice something that in the photo that Juan's showing you, what is the baby Jesus laying on? He's laying on one of them Hamas picnic blankets. And it's a symbol of the pro Hamas folks. And I guess it's part of the whole setup. Um, What? What? Yeah, Jesus was so totally Jewish. Jesus was a Jew. Jesus was Jewish. They called him Rabbi for crying out loud. He was Jewish. Why is he laying on a pro-Hamas picnic blanket? And the creche. And, oh, guess who was with the Pope when he unveiled that? It was the PLO, the Palestine Liberation Organization Executive Committee member, Ramzi Khoury. And he was there on behalf of Mahmoud Abbas, the PLO president, Mahmoud Abbas. Huh. And Corey thanked Pope Francis for his unwavering support of the quote-unquote Palestine. I don't like to say Palestine or Palestinian because it's a fake place and a made-up ethnicity. So I don't like saying that because it is. It's not supported by biblical history. It's not even supported by the Koran. It's not supported by any religious text. 2,000 years of antiquity don't support it as a singular place or an ethnicity of people. So Gaza. I like to say Gaza. Gaza, that's a correct... term for that geographical area. And their government is literally Hamas, like they voted for them. So pro-Hamas, it's accurate. So they had, Corey thanked Pope Francis for his support of the Gazan cause. And they want to end the war on Gaza that their government started. Their government started the war, killed a bunch of people. I just find it, I'm just shocked. That's who the Pope had with him. The Pope had him with him. There, unveiling this creche. What? Are you, really? That's who he had with him. Cain, what are you typing? Just say it. Say it, don't spray it.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I was just saying, I'm not sure Jesus ever had a, are they called those keffias? Yeah, I call them picnic blankets. Picnic blankets. I'm not sure Jesus ever owned one at any point in his life.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it's not historically accurate.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tough one to get my mind around.
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, it's just kind of weird that he has the Hamas, you know, Gaza guy there with him. And they're like, yes, you know, thank you for trying to end the war on Gaza. What do you mean the war on Gaza? Gaza had a war on Israel. Your elected government did it. Hamas. You still have babies in captivity. The hell are you talking about? Oh, the war on Gaza. All you had to do was release the hostages. You walking mental abortion. All you had to do was release the hostages. That's it. Oh, but you didn't want to. So now what? What are people supposed to do? My gosh, if someone busted into my house and kidnapped members of my family, I would literally boil everyone associated with it in acid after I flayed them publicly on my front yard. Oh, I'm not joking. I would go further. See, I need cane sidebar sidebar. I need to be in charge of torture. Yeah. So, but Dana, we live in a Republic. This is why I can't be a president because I come up with fun jobs like this ministry of torture. Me, just me, just me, just make it with me. And it can end when I leave. But I would be really good at this. So good at this. Like, I have a particular set of skills, okay? I have some skills. You want to know what my skills are? I can do a cat eye liquid liner like nobody's business. I can do it in three motions. I'm so good. Number one. Number two, ski ball. Oh, my gosh. If it was an Olympic sport, I will win so many gold medals for our country. I can get 100s all day long. Boom, boom, boom. I'm so good at it, right? So I got a particular set of skills. I can do things. I can parallel park in two moves. Anything. Give me a semi. I'll parallel park it. I have weird skills. I have crazy... weird trivia, a crazy weird trivia mind. So I can do, if you have really weird trivia nights, I'm your, I'm like your, you know, I'm your ringer. Bring me in. Can't fold a fitted sheet. You know, can't do that. Um, you know, but there's other things I can do well, but those are some of my top skills. Right. And, um, I feel like this would also be one of them. Devising ways of torturing one's enemies. And so I'm totally fine with being in charge of that. Minister of torture. I wouldn't call it torture. Minister of enhanced... Interrogation. No, I don't like interrogation. It's too aggressive. And remember, they ruined that in the early aughts. They ruined the whole phrase. Minister of enhanced... questioning sounds way less harsh than interrogation, doesn't it? Right. Or enhanced cooperation. Yeah. I'm totally, that's the technique. I'm totally fine with it. Remember, by the way, remember back in the aughts when it was all enhanced interrogation and waterboarding and I'm like, why are we feeling bad about waterboarding people caught literally in the battlefield in the war on terror? Why are we, I don't feel bad for you. If you're hanging out with terrorists, I don't care. Why waterboard? Just drown. Just keep them in there. Why? Why? Why are we feeling bad for terrorists? If you're capturing them in acts of terrorism, why is there any kind of feel badness about it? Right. I wouldn't be waterboarding because that's just an aggressive baptism. I would keep you under. So.
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Anyway, I think we might just add our last band name of the year right there. Aggressive baptism.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, that would be so good. It's like a prog rock Christian band, right? Yeah, and everything is in like drop D. Be great.
SPEAKER 15 :
That list will get debuted next week.
SPEAKER 02 :
Sweet, sweet, S-A-H, sweet. All right, so back to my whole thing. So he has, he was conveying things of Mahmoud Abbas. Oh, but I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet because we still have to touch on this, but then there was the thing that they put out Yeah, I don't know if it was the Vatican, but it was like catholic.org, their big magazine, where they had the gender stuff. We got to talk about this. All my Catholic friends are up in arms. They're like, live it at the Pope. They're living at this thing. They're mad. I'm like, it's Christmas. Why are your leaders doing this? Why? So we got to touch on all that.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Hmm. All right, so there's a couple here. I always like going for the weirdest ones first. Well, let's do, I'm going to do the bug one. I'm going to do this one. Florida Man was arrested at Disney Springs after he got drunk during, no, wait, what is this? It was a show? Yeah, Pasta Blues. Oh, it was the House of Blues. Okay. Because it says at Hawthorne Heights show. So you're telling me a guy got drunk at a nightclub? And they're like, wow, he's in trouble. Is that right? Ryan Tomasko, 38. He was arrested for trespass, disorderly conduct, and resisting an officer without violence. So this was all the way back in August, but apparently they're all doing this now. He got kicked out of the House of Blues show for being drunk. And okay, so why is this news? Happened at Disney? So? This is like in front of kids? Who's got their kids at a nightclub? That's like taking your damn baby to a bar. Not like a... No, let me rephrase that. To a tavern. There's a bar and then there are taverns. Y'all know what I mean, right? There's a difference. It's like having your baby in a tavern. Know what I'm saying? Like, why would you bring your kids to a club? You know where people are going to be drinking and listening to loud music. I don't get it. And they're shocked when a guy drank and was falling all over the place? Look, my grandparents used to run a bar. Sorry, a tavern. I saw many a drunk person get thrown out of it. Just saying. I don't know. Like, you're shocked. I mean, he shouldn't have fought with the officer, but I don't know. I don't know what I think about that one. Let's see. This, oh, man, we're running out of time. Okay, I'm going to have to tell you about the scumbag Florida realtor tomorrow. That'll be in tomorrow's Florida Man. Third hour on the way. Stay with us. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of the second, or no, sorry, third hour now. Third hour. The third hour. And it's good to be with you. You can find us on X, Chats at Rumble, Channel 347 Direct TV. You can also Facebook, YouTube. I said Substack, right? Yeah. Kane and I were talking about going and seeing live music back on break, going into this. And then you guys told us that Mitch McConnell just fell down. There's video of it. It was at the Capitol. Can you imagine just being a lawmaker? Everything you do in the Capitol is on tape somehow. I mean, I kind of like that. But at the same time, it's like, you know, if you Mitch McConnell, I think is having some issues. I mean, obviously, it's why he stepped down from Senate leadership. But that was one of the things that apparently happened. So I hope he's OK. I mean, is he OK? We know. Yeah, he's getting some medical treatment right now, but he just, goodness. So he's 82 years old, right? Yeah, 82 years old. So we've gone over a number of things. The ongoing fallout of the Penny verdict and some of the insane narratives that have been pushed through that. It's a little nuts. Uh, and we've also, we were discussing, uh, actually here very shortly, a little bit ago, we were talking about, uh, this installation that they have in the Vatican's lobby where the Pope showed up with one of the, uh, Hamas guys, one of the PLO dudes. And they were looking at this creation. They got the Hamas blanket under Jesus and all this time. Just, just still, I'm just, I'm, It's kind of unbelievable. And then I in addition to that, I'm trying to pull this up, but I'm having a little bit of difficulty right now. There was because, you know, everybody puts out this like the gender stuff like they all have to. virtue signal, all these how it's companies and everything else. Well, now apparently we're seeing religious institutions. I mean, I've seen some churches do it, but now we're really starting to see some of these religious institutions do it, too. And I'm going to pull this up because this was it's it's it's U.S. Catholic magazine. So it's the magazine. And they said, gender diversity has been part of the Catholic Church since the very beginning, as saints and key Catholic figures lived as what we would today call non-binary or trans to mirror a God who supersedes all human constructs. This is probably one of the most, that's a dumb thing. That is one of the dumbest things. That's absolutely, first, it's radical, number one. Number two, Gender is God's construct, and those saved by Christ are saints, per Paul. I'm telling you what. Where's Martin Luther? You're going to need another reformation if people keep doing this. First, it's the creche with the Hamas blanket under the baby Jesus, and now it's this. There's going to be another reformation needed unless some stuff ends up straightening itself out here. Good heavens. But I don't know. To see this and do we, I guess people just expect that from this Pope. I don't know. All my Catholic friends say he's super lefty and nobody likes him. Like, well, if nobody likes him, how does he get Pope? This is like some Borgia level stuff. Like how is he, how is he Pope then? If nobody likes him, if he's super unpopular with like every Catholic I know and people are, you know, criticizing him in written word repeatedly everywhere. I don't know. A couple of other things also to touch on. And yeah, I just actually, so he's getting, I just saw a picture of this. I had mentioned it. I just saw another thing. Mitch McConaughey, he's getting medical treatment. They showed up. I guess he's in his office. and he's getting care at the Capitol. I guess he's in the office, so hopefully all is okay. I would hope so. A couple, too, going down my list here, because I have so many odds and ends in all of this stuff to touch on. For instance, so the Biden-Harris administration, this is another one, This was within the week after Trump won the election. They granted Iran another $10 billion in sanctions relief. Free Beacon has this story. This is one of the things that I was reading this morning. They waived sanctions on Iran three days after the election. They provided Tehran access of up to $10 billion in funds that had been frozen. So it sanctions relief. So they're giving them $10 billion. That is according to Freebeacon got receipts. They got a copy of the non-public order transmitted to Congress. So they were able to see it. The Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, had determined on November 8th, quote, that it is in the national security interest of the United States to waive mandatory economic sanctions that bar Iraq from transferring upward of $10 billion to Iran in electricity import payments. The Biden-Harris administration, they had renewed that waiver. and repeatedly over the objections of congressional Republicans. And they wanted, because what does Iran use the money for? You unfreeze money for Iran, and then what ends up happening? Oh, suddenly Hezbollah and Hamas, Hamas has all these rockets. Ooh, how did that happen? Well, it's because of, we're giving them money. That's why we're unfreezing money. assets that had been frozen as part of the sanctions. That's why when they say, no, no, no, we haven't eased sanctions. Yes, you absolutely have because this was part of it. Now, the most recent iteration of this waiver lifts sanctions for 120 days. So they try to get around it by saying, no, we're only lifting sanctions for X amount of time. Oh, it's only 120 days this time. It's only this many days. So you can't say that we're easing sanctions because we're just doing it temporarily. That's how they put it. So the when they put it to Trump, so when he comes in, he's going to have to determine whether or not Tehran will will continue receiving relief, which, as you know, that's not going to fly. So, no, they're not going to receive relief after January 20. They're not going to happen. Although I will say. During the first administration of the first term for Trump. He did green light the same waiver. During the first his first term. But it was edited, revised to be very narrow so they could restrict how much access Iran had to cash. So the Biden State Department, they were the ones who revised it even after that and to allow them to convert funds from Iraq's currency to their currency, to euros. And then they wanted to hold the euros that they had in Oman in a bank account. So, yeah. And the State Department confirmed last week that it issued the waiver. Huh. Hmm. So Tehran's going to have a lot... They're going to have another cash infusion at a time when they are completely destabilized right now with Syria, with Hezbollah. And to say nothing of Hamas. Now, while Trump did green light the aversion of that waiver during his term, where it was tailored to restrict their access to cash and what they could do with it, they were blaming him. A lot of the Obama people for nearly bankrupting Iran during his first term. So he said he's going to he said he's vowing a maximum pressure campaign on Tehran. So I don't see there's not going to be any. I don't I would be shocked if he continued to green light this waiver and just didn't end it outright. I don't understand what the purpose of it does other than give them access to cash. It just helps them, especially right now when. they're dealing with the fall of Syria, which also, it also is weird because Biden, they're trying to take credit for that. The Biden camp, the Biden administration is trying to take credit for, for Assad leaving. Now, keep in mind that everything was sort of a stalemate all throughout Obama, Biden, everything was, you know, not so much during Trump, but then turned into a stalemate again for Biden, almost like they were trying to hold everything in pattern so that they could limit, uh, the, uh, uprisings, too, when Trump was in office or if a Republican was in office. And so they're trying to take credit for bringing down Assad while simultaneously issuing a $10 billion waiver to Iran. Does that make any sense to you? Because remember, that's all part of that Shiite crescent power thing. grid that they were trying to establish Iran and Syria. And then with Hezbollah and Hamas, they, they wanted to have this like Shiite Muslim, you know, powers influence to try to rival that of the Sunnis over there. Does, so does that make sense to you? They're bragging about taking down Assad, but they're given also Assad's BFF in Iran, $10 billion assets. waiver for sanctions there so they can access cash. None of that makes sense. But it's the Biden administration. When has it ever made sense? It's never made sense. Come on, like it's asking him to be sensible now? No. No, no, no. All right. A few other, got a couple of other things. In addition to that, we were talking about the New York $500 inflation refund checks for people. Kathy Hochul, we played that audio earlier. They want to give people like eight, what is it? 8.3 million people between 300 to $500 to fight inflation. Math. Because that's how you fight inflation. More government spending. Where does that money come from? Oh, you know what they, you know where she says, what she says she wants to do to fund it. They want to have a, they want to use it from surplus sales tax revenues. Yeah. Surplus sales tax revenues. So tax revenue. So sales tax revenue. where you go out and purchase things and things are already more expensive due to inflation and they're gonna get more expensive because she needs the money to send people $300 to $500 a piece. Cain?
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If I were to leave today living here in Dallas, Texas and just took $300 to $500 with me to New York, how long would I last?
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Not even a day.
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Yeah.
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It's an expensive city. And that's not even if you're doing anything bougie. You don't even have to be doing bougie stuff. I mean, if you want to do budget and eat processed McD's and fast food, you'll be set. Walk everywhere or take the nasty subway. I didn't take the subway. I love how the left tries to act like that's the measure of if they're one of us, if they're one of the poors. I took the subway. You don't have to expose yourself to that petri dish of human excrement needles and everything else. You don't have to do that. It's nasty. Subways are nasty. And if you're a germaphobe like me, oh my gosh. Closest I've ever been to full-blown neurotic break was being in the subway. Not because of anybody, but because of the stuff. It's so nasty and it smells like... eggs and pee. It's weird. It's the weirdest smell in the world. I can't describe it. You get the gas stench when you go up. But yeah, down in the, it's rough, man. It's rough. I don't know. It's just gross. So I can't, $300 to $500, higher sales tax.
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That's why I couldn't imagine being a citizen of New York, knowing how much it costs, and then my governor says that they're going to give me $300 to $500. Yeah. How about you just fix what you're doing wrong as a government?
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Does that mean the billionaires that live there on the Upper East Side, are they going to get... Are they going to get the super people on Fifth Avenue and everybody who lives around the now bougie part of Hell's Kitchen and all that? Is all those people get $300 to $500?
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I think those are the people actually contributing so that other people can get $300 to $500. Okay.
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Really? This is so goofy. This is so goofy. But this idea that this is going to help it? Or maybe you guys could just, I don't know, stop spending. How much money have they spent on illegal immigrants? They've spent, I mean, five times that on illegal immigrants. But you get three to five hundred of your money. They spent three to five times of your own money on illegal immigrants. But you, you get three to five hundred dollars. Thanks, Kath. Thanks. Yeah.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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There's no Dominic the donkey. Of course you do. All right. A pilot explains the real reason that phones need to be in airplane mode. He says it's not a conspiracy. It can actually have an effect on radio communication and the pilot. They're not actually real fanatical about it on the flights that I've been on. But they said that, yes, it has to do with that. It's not a conspiracy. Is it, though? I still feel like it's completely overblown. I mean, I'll do it. I mean, if they're looking at me. Sometimes I do forget, though. Have you ever gotten on a flight and you just like immediately fall asleep? And I just totally don't even remember to do any because I'll be out. So I don't know. But they said that if you're using like headsets in that, they said apparently they can pick up a buzz. So that's why you're not to use your phones. I went really long last segment. So I'm cutting you short for headlines this time. Apologies. But we're going to be back in two and two. Stick with us.
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Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. So when they had that killer, Luigi Mangione, who was screaming when they were bringing him into custody. And this was earlier today. There's video of him screaming at everybody. He was screaming at the media while entering the courthouse, saying this is super unjust and all this kind of stuff. Do you see him? He's the guy who murdered the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, downtown Manhattan. And he's going up. They're taking him into jail. He's got his orange onesie on. And he starts screaming at the media, saying, oh, this is so unjust. I don't know. He said, it's extremely unjust and an insult to the intelligence of the American people. And some of the other stuff was inaudible. So I don't know what he's talking about that's unjust. What is insulting to the intelligence of the American people? Oh, what are you making that face for?
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I mean, it's an interesting thing to say.
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Yeah.
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If you're somebody in his position. If I'm someone who, you know, assassinated someone and I'm getting taken in, those aren't going to be my words. So that's kind of weird.
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And what do you think it's indicative of?
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I don't know. I mean, it just seems weird that when they did find him, everything the police needed for evidence just happened to be on him in a backpack. Okay. Interesting.
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I guess. Let's explore it a minute. So... And again, we're just speculating just because it's so weird. It's a weird story. And, you know, I'm not saying any of this is definitive. We're just... We're commentating. We're speculating on it. So... That... true it's everything was very conveniently found on him including his you know like his id or whatever all this stuff different currencies but what if if it was something so if it was a hit what would the purpose why Like a United Healthcare CEO, a guy who apparently, even though the wife said he had threats, didn't take them seriously enough or didn't think they were serious enough to merit having a security detail. And maybe he thought, well, I'm in Manhattan. I don't need one because Manhattan, downtown Manhattan, typically, like not on Times Square, but Avenue of the Americas, which is just east of it, is, you know, I get it. It just, it's weird. Like what, for what purpose? And him. Like the multiple degree Ivy League rich boy. Just a weird, because his life is gone now. I mean, he killed a dude in cold blood. I mean, he is, you know, he's in forever. So I don't know. Like what would the, it's just all so, I'm trying not to be conspiracy theory, but what makes it difficult is that Any of the reasons that people would have to complain about insurance, he doesn't. This is not like... What was the movie Denzel Washington was in where he was like had to... He held up in a hospital because he couldn't get his kid treatment or something like that. It's not like one of those situations. It still comes from an uber wealthy family. It's just... That's why it doesn't make any... It just doesn't make any sense. I don't know. It's just very, very odd to me. But... I don't know. It's just like it's very, very interesting. You're in Conspiracyville. We're trying to do responsible radio.
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I have a second home in Conspiracyville. You know this. Lots of tinfoil. I know that it was just not that long ago that he was bragging about working with Nancy Pelosi on a lot of the government involvement with health care. And also with insider trading, there was something there I saw when I was going down a rabbit hole last night. But it's weird. There's even pictures out there where people are comparing the... What's that little space between your eyebrows? Where he's got like almost no space in one picture, but then there's some space in a different picture.
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So he shaved his brows.
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Like it's maybe two different people or he shaved his brows.
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He manscaped his brows.
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Right. But I'm just telling you what I'm seeing on these rabbit holes that I travel down when I do get a few minutes. And it's... Yeah. It's weird to say the least. Hmm. It's weird.
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Hmm. Hmm. I don't know. I, it couldn't have, it wasn't random. That's for sure. And clearly it was planned out. So he's, that's why I said he's going to go away for a while. Cause he, I mean, obviously I had to plan this out in order to, to find this, get this guy's schedule, find out where he's going to be at, et cetera. Yeah. I just don't know. I don't know. If the conspiracy theory is that it was a hit, what's the purpose? Like that's going to make UnitedHealthcare change anything. I mean, again, insurance companies are allowed to do what they do because Democrats created this set of regulations that that's what they operate in. And it's very favorable to them. And Democrats get tons of campaign donations from them. So I don't I don't know. The whole thing is weird. It's just a weird thing to me. And we'll follow. We'll continue following it as it. if we get any more developments. But I thought that was just a weird soundbite from that dude as he's being led away. And, you know, he's yelling about, it's an insult to the intelligence of the American people. I don't know, whatever. A couple of other things that I want to make sure that we're getting. It's a weird news day. We have odds and ends of different things. And we were telling you about the Iran sanctions, $10 billion. FBI Director Chris Wray, he's getting ready to resign immediately. And then we have this story from Jordan Neely's dad, his absentee dad, his deadbeat dad. He, in a soundbite, he said that when he was asked about the system and his son, he blamed racism.
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Mm-hmm.
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Someone said that he was standing with the civil rights industrial complex, which is actually a fascinating term. But he blamed racism for his son's death. Without any evidence, without any evidence at all, he blames racism for his son's death. When that had nothing to do with it, obviously. Nothing to do with it. It's all about self-defense. Remember how when Kyle Rittenhouse, those people were trying to kill him. One guy had a gun drawn on him. And Kyle Rittenhouse, I thought, demonstrated excellent discernment when he was carrying his firearm. By the way, there was a one point he was on the ground and he held his rifle and he actually stopped because he thought for a split second. that that one dude was going to retreat, and when the guy decided against it, I watched that video so many times, frame by frame in slow motion, when the guy decided against it, that's when Rittenhouse saw that the threat was representing itself, and he shot the guy. All those dudes were white, and he was called a racist. One of those guys got a conviction for domestic violence, and the other was legit a pedophile, like had been in jail for it. And that was the guy who Rittenhouse had killed because he was trying to kill Rittenhouse. They were all white dudes. And people actually believe that Rittenhouse was running down the street shooting black people. That's what happens every single time. You even had members of that civil rights industrial complex that were holding press conferences about that. I'm like, this was in... This was in Wisconsin. And it was... What in the world? Why are you getting involved in this? It was the weirdest thing. And any time, anything like this can be used. If it's a conservative or even appears to not be progressive dude, then they will figure out a way to use that as some sort of route through which to attack self-defense. But it is fascinating how they, I mean, think of it. But now, in the meantime, when you want to talk about racism, where's Dexter Taylor at, Kane? Sitting in prison. Sitting in prison. Innocent black man sitting in prison for the crime of being a conservative gun owner. Absolutely. What happens, and I don't recognize anything that New York does, hardly, especially as it relates to guns as being a legitimate law. I don't. Federally, you can build your own firearms. You can't sell them. You're restricted. you can build your own firearms. By the way, this is how this ghost gun thing, I'm positive that they're going to try to use this as some sort of way to justify what they did to Dexter Taylor, this Luigi Mangiona. So... He built his own... He's an engineer. Built his own firearms. Never fired them. He just wanted to see how... He just liked building them, right? It's like when you have somebody who knits or crochets and they make all these great things, but not for themselves. They just, you know, have them. Like quilts or something. I have made myself two huge, amazing quilts. One's a granny square quilt and one's a basket weave. And I never use them. I just have them, like, you know, laid up. I just don't ever use them. Same thing. So... After he had been doing this for well over a decade, New York decides to play with its laws, and they decide to criminalize hobbyists, even though federally it still recognizes the lawful activity, so long as you're not selling the stuff that you're doing. So there's conflict right there between the federal court and the state of New York. And they didn't grandfather anything in. They changed their laws, and then all of a sudden when they changed their laws, all these people became felons. Dexter Taylor's an outspoken conservative. And he's a big supporter of Second Amendment rights. So, of course, he gets raided. They find out what he purchases. His credit card company gives him up. Find out what he purchases. Raids his house. He has a completely clean record. He is an engineering nerd. He's a super smart Renaissance guy. And he's sitting in Rikers now. Sitting in Rikers. You know the guy who... Actually, two of the guys who got injured, the one guy that I was telling you about who had sued, tried suing in New York, in Brooklyn, when he got stabbed, stopping this knife rampage and the cops wouldn't intervene. And then the city later came back and said that the cops don't have a legal right to intervene or protect you. The guy who was doing the stabbing had already been out. He had assaulted several people. He apparently was in illegal possession of a firearm at one point. That guy was out on the streets. I think it's Alvin Shaw, the guy who stabbed the dad in the neck on the subway platform. That guy, another example, violent criminal, wrist slap, was out on the streets. He should never have been out on the streets. He was released, you know, their bail reform that they did where you could just be released under your own recognizance. You didn't have to do it. That was one of the guys that got out. Meanwhile, Dexter Taylor gets the entire book thrown at him. And they changed the judge at the last minute because they didn't want it to look like it was a white guy judging a black man. So they wanted to get a black judge. It's a true story. And then the judge was like, you cannot use the Second Amendment. You cannot cite the Second Amendment as any kind of defense in this courtroom. He's sitting in Rikers. You see how they do. They care about race so much. All these race hustling charlatans. Where's Black Lives Matter for Dexter Taylor? They can't make any money off of Dexter Taylor. You know, they were blowing through over $30 million. They bought themselves mansions. They were paying themselves six-figure salaries. They were living large. The grift is real. What was it? Booker T. Washington was saying that at one point there was a great quote that he had where he was talking about how some people don't want any wrongs to be rectified because there is a grievance industry that has been created. And when you rectify wrongs, you will put these grievance industry grifters out of work. He didn't say it necessarily just like that, but that was the heart of it. Not a single one of them out there for Dexter Taylor, though. I'm just sad. So this story, U.S. Border Patrol agents are warned of an alleged revenge attack after an agent ran over a Mexican cartel member. They're told to remain vigilant. So cartels apparently put a hit out against U.S. Border Patrol in the San Diego sector because one of their little cartel members got run over by an agent. The agents were issued this warning Thursday of last week that a retaliatory shooting could happen in the coming days after this incident. It was on November 27th. They went viral online. It was a Border Patrol officer who hit a suspect with an SUV while responding to an attempt at illegal entry. And there was a cartel member involved. So the cartel is mad. And they said that the incident occurred without cause or remorse. without cause the act you were he's rushing to stop a crime in progress and without remorse he's supposed to be sad that someone chose to gamble their life in such a fashion how is any of this his responsibility he didn't wake up and think wow i'm going to get this guy to illegally come into the country and then i'm going to hit them with my suv he didn't think that So the guy was on trying to scale the fence and one man briefly froze on the road and the vehicle zoomed by and hit the dude, sent him flying and custom and border patrol. They confirmed that two people were arrested and it was during a human smuggling incident. They didn't say if the man who was hit by the car was one of them or not, but they and they did not name the border patrol officer. I wouldn't trust any reporting on anybody at the on any border patrols after that horse story in the rains. So dumb. Because they're saying, oh, he used his car to purposefully hit. Well, how do you know the guy didn't jump in front of it? You know, how do you know that? Take one for the team, right? Take a hit. How do you know he didn't jump in front of it? Legitimate question. All right. Today's stupidity came.
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Okay. It's our president. Is Biden our president? Because it's really not feeling like that. But anyway, this is him claiming that A, the economy is great, and B, he hopes that Trump will continue it. Listen to this.
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Next month, my administration and a new administration will begin. Most economists agree a new administration is going to inherit a fairly strong economy. What? At least at the moment. What? An economy going through fundamental transformation.
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No. Yeah. The transformation is you took money out of our pocket and put it into government's pocket.
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And they tried to take more money out of Medicare and put it in towards green energy.
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Yeah. They're not great with other people's money.
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Yeah, exactly. It's so stupid. It's so dumb. So dumb. That does it for us for today. We are midweek tomorrow, halfway through the week. Folks, find us over at Substack, chapter and verse. Go and subscribe. YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. I'll be back with you tomorrow.
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Welcome to Sekulow, folks. Now, you get this. Coming out of Alvin Bragg's office, putting this together, what happened yesterday with Daniel Penny and, of course, the jury finding him not guilty of the highest charge that Alvin Bragg's DA's office tried to bring against him. Then you look at the Trump again the cases there that Alvin Bragg attempting to pursue as well this criminal case that does not make a lot of sense of course and when you look at the actual crimes that were attached there's questions about again was this even a case that could be or should be brought but what is also interesting is that there are New York City Councilwomen and one New York City Councilwoman who is calling for the new incoming Department of Justice Civil Rights Division to investigate the politicization of DA Bragg's operation. Because you look at the case against Daniel Penney, then you look at the case against President Trump, and you look at these are headline-grabbing cases that seem to be politically motivated, sometimes even racially motivated. And I want you to listen to her. This is someone who, again, a Republican, gets elected out of Queens, but is at this point ready to say the DA needs to be investigated by the DOJ. Take a listen.
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Well, it's really simple. I mean, the Manhattan D.A. has made this racial. We have seen what A.G. Bragg has been capable and has tried to pursue. And I think between Trump and now this is the icing on the cake with Penny, convicted at any cost, they make it a vendetta. He is definitely political. This is politicized. And I think he needs to be investigated. I think the whole D.A.' 's office in Manhattan needs to be investigated.
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I mean they tried to get him for you know second degree manslaughter they lose the trial against Donald Trump I mean just updating you we'll get you update on everything but when you look at that you look at the city council members starting to say you know what this is the weaponization of our legal system and this is why oftentimes the people who need to be investigated are not are yes the people the names right you have the Alvin Braggs they're setting the tone But also that inside their offices, no one seems to be raising their hand and saying this doesn't seem right. Whether it's the Trump case and trying to bring in a federal law they can't explain to try and call him this convicted felon, this idea. Or if you're talking about a situation like Daniel Penny, which has gone on and on and on. trying to ruin this man's life who just stepped in the way of a bad actor. And what does that tell you? a new york that's trying to get back on its feet you know getting back to 100 is a wild long way away if you've been recently and you see how few people are in the office buildings there's still big city lots of people vibrant uh then most more vibrant than most cities especially coming still out of covid but a lot of empty spaces and what does that mean a lot more opportunities for bad actors which means you want to encourage the good actors That if they actually see a crime, a violent crime is occurring or is about to occur, is threatened to occur, that they can take some action to prevent it. And they aren't going to be the one that is demonized. They aren't going to be the enemy. So, we will take your calls on that. There's a lot to talk about today. 1-800-684-3110. You know that the deep state is also ramping up its attack on President Trump's cabinet nominees. One of those, Tulsi Gabbard, she got one of those letters from a hundred deep state intel folks with a lot of fancy titles. Anytime they sign on to those letters, a bunch of intelligence agents sign on to tell you that something must be true. We've almost learned that it must be false. that they are only now doing it for their own purposes, political, bureaucratic, because they want their own people in charge. Support the work of the ACLJ. Of course, talking about Tulsi Gabbard this time. Go to ACLJ.org, sign the petition to get her confirmed. All right, welcome back to Secchio. As we said, we're going to take your calls at 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. So first, you have, again, someone on the New York City Council. Calling for the new Trump DOJ's Civil Rights Division to launch an investigation into what's going on in the Manhattan DA's office with Alvin Bragg. Is there enough focus on actual crime or is this an office that has been, what it appears to be, weaponized for political purposes, whether it's cases against Donald Trump or cases against Daniel Penny? Quickly, Will, just an update for people. We were looking it up. The cases against Donald Trump, there's big decisions to be made there.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. So as a reminder for everyone, that was the 34 felony counts that DA Bragg conjured up out of saying it was a state law attached to something. Basically, they could charge you in the state for a violation of a campaign finance law. If that crime happened, there was never a charge federally, but he still went forward with this novel idea that he could charge President Trump for committing a crime which he'd never been charged, much less had the justice system look at. But that was that case, and it went forward, and there was a conviction. and with the uh the transition that is coming up the election there was question about whether or not that would stand the judge judge mershon that's the case most people know this says is judge mershon's case um had recently postponed sentencing He adjourned the sentencing hearing, which was supposed to be on November 26th, and did not relist it on the docket anywhere. So it is at this point postponed indefinitely. But also he gave the defense, so Trump's attorneys, until December 2nd to file a motion to dismiss. And the prosecution had until yesterday. So Alvin Bragg had to file their opposition to the motion to dismiss yesterday before Judge Mershon. So we could hear what the judge is deciding to do when he takes into account all the immunity issues, the transition team issues, and now this motion to dismiss. any day at this point as he deliberates from these briefs from both the defense and the prosecution another DA brag overstep but we'll see how the judge comes out with this.
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I mean and you also you look at the attorney general in New York she says she's not going to stop fighting against President Trump So she's not going to drop the case but right now the case is before the appellate court system there and that court is leaning towards and been looking at some are predicting hard to predict courts of dismissing that entire case as well the civil cases that the attorney general attempted to bring and brought against President Trump. I want to bring in Harry Hutchinson right now because Harry the bigger I guess discussion point And it will have to be done in a way that I think is fair. It's got to be a way that's transparent enough for a Department of Justice investigation. If you were to launch a civil rights department investigation, so a federal probe into a state DA's, a city DA's office, here would be Alvin Bragg's. But this idea that if we've seen a weaponized legal system that may have started at the federal level but is certainly what it's done is it's inflicted in all of the different political levels so anybody who seems to be elected if they have any law enforcement job on the left they've let their politics start guiding them and whether it's issues of race or purely just democrat republican politics when we see Daniel Penny's case when we see the Trump case is this idea that we'll keep fighting against him while he's you know about to become president united states I think it could warrant an investigation and it is the way to root out weaponization it's not saying we're trying to put all these people in jail that's not what investigation would do it would it what it would look at is whether or not they are properly conducting the decision making of when to bring charges and against who.
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I think you're precisely correct. And so the fundamental issue, the fundamental issue from a justice perspective is whether or not every American is entitled to due process of law without bias, without a focus either on race or politics. And so if you look at the history of the FBI, for instance, in terms of them going after Donald Trump. This reaches back to 2015, 2016, with Lisa Page, with Peter Strzok, with individuals within the FBI department who essentially have lied in order to gain a FISA warrant against Donald Trump. This process has continued with respect to the invasion of President Trump's residence in Florida. It also involves, for instance, the FBI going after pro-life Catholics in Richmond, Virginia, in Los Angeles, and in Portland, Oregon. And it now likely includes Alvin Bragg, who is the Manhattan district attorney who has brought racially inflammatory charges against Daniel Penny in a case that should never have been brought. So there is a clear and substantial basis for investigating the Manhattan District Attorney and for rooting out corruption within the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, and possibly bringing charges for a violation of President Trump's civil rights. Keep in mind, in the Manhattan case brought by Alvin Bragg against Donald Trump, it was grounded in a suspicious, surreptitious, if you will, campaign finance violation, which was never proven. And so I think at the end of the day, I think Vicky Palladino, the New York City Councilwoman, is right to at least raise this issue.
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And Professor Hutchison, what many on the left, if something like this were to take place, if the DOJ Civil Rights Division were to start looking at places like the Manhattan District Attorney's Office... The people on the left would cry foul. They would say, this is the retribution we were talking about, weaponizing the DOJ, going after his political enemies. But that's precisely what the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ is for. They all the time, constantly, are looking at local police forces, local district attorney's offices, and making sure that this entire web of state offices and state judiciaries are uh falling in line with what the constitution and the federal law provides as protections for people's civil rights so we should caution people that if they hear the left saying look we told you so this is the job of the civil rights division if you look up civil rights division they're always coming to an agreement with police departments with local DAs to not prosecute in a certain way or to change their policies here because that's the role of the oversight of the federal government to make sure that policing and the prosecutions on a state level are still protecting the federal constitutional rights of all Americans. So it doesn't end necessarily in a trial or a charging of someone. Most of the time these things end in an agreement, a settlement of some sort with the federal government that they're not going to continue violating civil rights. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
So I think the quintessential issue that's before us in this particular arena is the possibility of local corruption, local weaponization of the Justice Department. local politicization of the district attorney's office. And clearly I think most Americans would agree that the Manhattan district attorney, under Alvin Bragg's leadership, has launched a ton of highly politicized and weaponized cases which make little sense. So I think at the end of the day, the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, under the leadership most likely of Pam Bondi, should consider investigating what the New York Manhattan District Attorney has done over the last several years.
SPEAKER 05 :
Listen, what we know is that there's plenty of people inside the Department of Justice and plenty of divisions. I think Harmeet Dhillon's been nominated to head up the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice. She was the California GOP chair, has a law firm, has been involved in the Republican politics and politics in general, the law around election law and issues like that. So certainly, again, these are individuals that know part of their job is to go in there and get these agencies. I mean, this is the biggest lift for Pam Bondi. It's the biggest lift for each of these division chairs and deputies there is. Can we in the amount of time we have, whether it's the entire four years that you serve and then a different presence coming in? We know that. So in those four years, can you clean up the reputation? and the way Americans see the Department of Justice and the FBI, can you clean it up and also get it back on track? Get it back on track by doing the right things, which is to focus on the bad guys, focus on the crime, focus on the gangs, focus on keeping Americans safe from terrorism and other issues, especially when you're involving the FBI, instead of becoming a political kind of back and forth issue. We don't want our legal system to look like that. And of course, even our confirmation system, when we talk about the president, who they want to put in their cabinet, has gotten so politicized that a former Democrat, you know, becomes unacceptable to lead the, to be director of national intelligence. That former Democrat, of course, worked with us here on Sekulow, and we are calling for you to support her nomination, Tulsi Gabbard, at ACLJ.org. We'll talk about... All right, welcome back to Seculo. If you get our emails you saw today, we're calling on you to sign up on a petition to stand with Tulsi Gabbard and her nomination as Director of National Intelligence and to be in the cabinet of President Trump. Tulsi is someone we've worked with here in Seculo for over a year. We worked with her on talking through so many different issues. Not only that, we actually are representing her as well. You remember... We're defending Tulsi from the deep state and the TSA's treatment of her as a terrorist suspect with multiple FOIAs that we already have filed. We're battling the radical left in multiple lawsuits and ramping up the attempt to do more attacks on Trump through the nominees themselves. This is a great time to support the work of the ACLJ and I think just walking through this nomination kind of underscores that because again we have our faith and freedom year in drive right now at aclj.org this dictates kind of to the aclj a way for us to plan and budget forward for 2025 and we know there's going to be a lot of battles there's going to be battles just to get these people in place right and we said yesterday tulsi was meeting with senator graham of south carolina senator rounds of south dakota and senator lankford of oklahoma friends of ours and we asked you if you were in those states to call make a friendly call to those senators offices saying hey you know Tulsi Gabbard she's someone I've gotten to know through the secular broadcast and ACLJ and I support her nomination I know they do too well she's also going to be meeting today with Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas Senator Rich of Idaho and Senator Moreno of Ohio again so he's coming in right to office You can call those offices as well. We encourage you to do so. So that is some grassroots action you can take. We also have a petition now officially up at ACLJ.org. And that petition, important for you to sign today. Let's start building the momentum for Tulsi. before her confirmation hearings begin but just as she begins meeting with this first group of senators on Capitol Hill. They can have serious questions. It's a serious position when you talk about director of national intelligence. We have the former acting director of national intelligence still on our team here at Seculo, Rick Rennell. But you know they've been going after Tulsi. We're representing her right now in a case where she's been treated, is treated like a terrorist while she travels. While at the same time, Tulsi was able to bring a lot of new people into the, if not the party, the MAGA movement. But she herself became a Republican. So she's got Democrats upset. We hear a lot of the same attacks. Let's go through some right now. The first attack kind of, it's in the news a lot right now. It's because it involves Syria, Will. Now we kind of put the dates together. In 2013, ISIS was formed. And you know, we wrote a New York Times bestseller on ISIS. On May 2014, you started to see ISIS spreading out their attacks outside of Syria where they wanted to establish their caliphate and did for a period of time. And so we saw an attack at the Jewish Museum of Belgium, the shooting there in May of 2014. You see an attack in Queens, New York, a hatchet attack again in 2014. November of 2015, there was the attack in Paris, the Bataclan at the concert that left so many people killed. Then we saw the attacks in California, in San Bernardino, the Orlando nightclub attack in June of 2016. And then, this is long after, right, President Obama is now gone. a red line was drawn that if Assad used chemical weapons the US would take him out of power or stop at least working with the groups or staying away from engaging with the groups who were trying to protect him. There was a three-way war in Syria going on at least between ISIS, the Assad regime a break off which is more similar to the group who has taken power now in Syria which is al-Qaeda's former kind of military group the al-Nusra Front which was not part of ISIS it was somewhat separate and of course then you had the United States get involved directly on the ground and so and then Russia was on the ground and Hezbollah was on the ground in Iran and so you had so many different actors calling it three-dimensional chess is not fair but at the end of the day in January 2017 Tulsi went on a fact-finding mission to Syria now this is at a time again new administration is just about to come into office So a change in foreign policy, but at that point, al-Baghdadi still alive, still the leader of ISIS. So this war, which had rage, which had killed so many people, could it be prevented without, uh, could, uh, could there be any way this war was brought to an end? Can we figure out exactly who's this side, that side? So Tulsi went and met with Assad. And just because she met, went there and met with him, by the way, uh, She's now been demonized as some agent of Russia or agent of the former Syrian president. When she went and met there with Assad as she is today, I'm sure that that will soon have to come to a close. I don't know what officially it does and how that works with DNI but she served over two decades in the army reserves. She was still in the reserves then. okay so Assad knew who was meeting with a member of congress was in the U.S. military she had a top-level security clearance she has that today even while she's under this other investigation and yet because of that meeting The left has said this is how we're going to demonize Tulsi Gabbard. I think the idea here is that the military didn't take any action, was completely silent. Tulsi's continued to actually go higher up in the military with higher rank. She maintained her security clearance and she's now before the DNI. If there was anybody that was going to take action, it would have been the military back in 2017. They did not.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right, Jordan.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which tells you there's a lot here that she probably could never tell us on the air or even off the air. But that if she has to take these senators behind closed doors, even into a secured room to do the briefing, she could.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. And also on that fact-finding trip, it wasn't just a meeting with Assad. There was also meetings with the Kurdish groups as well that were fighting in this civil war and other groups to get an assessment. We were also supporting with weapons. Right. So you're getting an assessment. And our fighters, our troops are still in Syria right now. helping the Kurds. So when you look at all of that and you think, hmm, maybe a member of Congress, person in the military who has been to war zone, going there to try to figure out what's going on, especially with the litany of the ISIS attacks as they were spreading their influence. You have to remember, it wasn't until President Trump was in office that he put down ISIS. ISIS was expanding. ISIS stands for the Islamic State in Iraq in Syria so the concern that a caliphate would take over the region in Iraq and Syria maybe a member of congress is going to figure out what's the best best path forward to keep Americans safe not saying I'm going to go prop up Assad, but trying to figure out what the geopolitical strategy here to go back as I inform my other members of Congress, as I inform my superiors in the military, maybe just maybe there's something a little bit more than CNN can see from their perch in D.C. when they criticize her and try to say she's a puppet of Assad, a puppet of Putin. It's ridiculous. It's so absolutely insulting. to a woman who has achieved such great things in her career, has done so much as a patriot, and they're going to sit here and try to say she's some foreign asset? And that's why our members, you've gotten to know her over the past year on this broadcast. That's why we have to have someone like her who is smart, accomplished, and will get the job done and root out the deep state.
SPEAKER 05 :
at in the department of national intelligence you know it starts with donald trump but they say okay they look at him they say he's president he's got a lot of different things to do but then he chooses tulsi gabbard to put right into their right into their mix of all of their intelligence agencies you want to route out the deep state you want to root that out of government you send in someone who is not afraid to take on the issue regardless of part of politics and partisan politics they're not afraid tulsi isn't sign the petition let's get her confirmed to this position
SPEAKER 03 :
aclj.org sign the petition today and donate keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, welcome back to Sekulow. So we are launching a campaign today. You get our emails. It's in your inbox. Maybe you've already seen it to support Tulsi Gabbard's nomination, of course, to as director of national intelligence. She begins meeting with senators this week. She already started yesterday. She met with Senator Graham, Senator Rounds, and Lankford. She also will be meeting with today Senator Cotton and Senator Rich, the incoming senator of Ohio as well, Senator Moreno. So They will all get those individual meetings. Then there will be a confirmation hearing. The hearing is when things usually get testy. The hearing is things when it can sometimes turn partisan, though in Tulsi's case, there will be a lot of Republicans she's meeting with who aren't as familiar with her personally, necessarily, because when she was in Washington, D.C., as an elected official, she was a Democrat, though certainly was someone willing to go against the narrative and was not... lockstep with the party in every vote ran for president 2020 said some things and issues like on abortion the democrats didn't like and suddenly she became I think Hillary Clinton started it she was a Russian agent you know she really she battled as well and was someone who was utilized in debate prep with Harris because she came out against Harris for the level of the amount of black people who were being charged in California for very low level drug crimes when Harris was attorney general and that kind of took Harris out of the race she never made it to an actual vote to a primary and so we know Will and we've pulled it together that the left And Democrats saw the potential in Tulsi Gabbard years ago. They just didn't like where her politics developed over time as she got older and as she had more experience in the military.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. And so this is a super cut of people on the left, on faces you'll recognize as well if you're watching, talking about how great Tulsi Gabbard is before she had even questions about the ideology of the left. Let's go ahead and play Byte 4.
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Watch out for the next superstar. Here we go.
SPEAKER 04 :
We've been talking about it all fair always.
SPEAKER 07 :
Here we go. Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard is a rising star in this party. Tulsi Gabbard should be here tonight. The reality is we do not have enough young veterans in this party, enough young women in this party, enough people calling this party.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're considered a rising star in the Democratic Party. You had a position of leadership in the Democratic National Committee. Tulsi's story is really, I think, tailor-made for Hollywood. I half expect Natalie Portman to be vying for the role any day now because this story is not to be believed. Tulsi Gabbard, she is going to be the one to watch tonight at the DNC.
SPEAKER 06 :
Tulsi Gabbard, she's an Iraq war veteran. Yesterday she was promoted from captain to major in the Hawaii National Guard. So she certainly is a rising star. The fact that she's not here for whatever reason is unfortunate. I don't know, but in a battle, I want her in my trench.
SPEAKER 05 :
Me too, me too. So there you go. Now she was disinvited because, again, wasn't playing the politics the DNC liked. It was causing trouble for the mainstream candidates who she's questioned. She's questioned Republicans. She's questioned Democrats, Will, about their politics of, again, of war and the idea that that's such a moneymaker in D.C. And people talk about this. They used to hear the words like military-industrial complex, Will, and kind of just... Move right by it. And then a lot more people start thinking, you know what? Why were we in Afghanistan this long? When we saw the withdrawal from Afghanistan that was so heinous and so horrendous by this administration. And you ask, to get to that point. This is what we fought for, is to have to run away because the Taliban was seizing Kabul in three days instead of months. And by the way, even if they were right on the months, then what were we there for as well? Because if it was just to get bin Laden, that should have been special forces, smaller groups in a targeted manner. But hey, that doesn't pay the machine. That doesn't keep Northern Virginia's lights on and all the different contractors out there. And if you question that as a member of Congress, it doesn't matter if you're Republican or Democrat. They were coming after you then. But then Donald Trump came around. And he kind of shared those views too. Like, I don't want to send people to war if I don't have to. Let's use diplomacy. Let's use other threats. Let's use special forces, individualized attacks. But let's try to do everything we can not to have mass troop mobilizations. And you know what Republicans have said and the majority of Americans? I agree. I agree. Support Tulsi Gabbard's nomination. Go to ACLJ.org slash sign today. I'm going to go right to Israel. Jeff Balaban there oversees ACLJ Jerusalem. And Jeff, I want to talk to you about something that, you know, listen, people are trying to figure out. I don't think it's been fully and it won't be fully figured out in a day or two. But kind of what Syria will start looking like as these groups that have come together. to oust Assad and right now you've got a lot of celebrations in the street people like what they're hearing from these groups leaders of course we have to remind people the group that's in charge here is still on the U.S. designated terror list start with that as a terrorist group they have come out and made promises that they are going to respect the rights of women that there won't be any new like Islamist style laws there or that are forced by the government they've also said there'd be freedom of religion which would be against something that Assad protected to an extent for certain groups not all but for some groups that were a little bit different than what you'd see usually in that part of the world but of course Jeff at the end of the day we can't forget that they all have had all of these groups kind of coalesced in the fact that they had gotten their start with Al-Qaeda
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you know, the rule that the enemy of my enemy is my friend really doesn't apply in most cases in the Middle East. There's a lot of enemies against each other, and most of them are our enemies as well. And so no one yet knows how this is going to fall out. You know, Israel, and there were discussions today here that I had with people, Israel's intelligence is spectacular. Obviously, that beeper attack, for example, But Israel's intelligence is spectacular in terms of where the bad guys are going to be, how to get to them, really spectacular. However, anticipating what other countries are going to do, not always so great as we saw that in October 7th. We saw that in the 73 war famously. And so Israel itself is taking stock about what this means for its future. What we can say is that in the past 48 hours, what's being reported here in Israel, that the first part is done, meaning from Israel's perspective, they've destroyed the Syrian strategic capabilities that could be used to launch attacks on Israel, because Israel had a fully mechanized army. And now it's in the hands of who knows how many different sectors of terrorist organizations and jihadi and militant organizations. And in that case, what's also interesting is that America helped in this case. According to Israeli news reports, 175 separate attacks or targets were hit by Americans now because everyone recognizes that Syria was used to stockpile very serious chemical and biological weapons, even, according to many reports, from the Iranian regime. And of course, nukes is the next step, which is now that they've gone after this in Syria, the discussion is, is it time to go after Tehran as well? But in terms of what the future holds, there is a slim hope that something will be cobbled together that will mean some kind of safety and security and stability. But by and large, remember, everyone was celebrating what they call the Arab Spring in Egypt. It ended up being a disaster. This may end up being a disaster as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, we saw it in Egypt. We saw it in Libya. And I think that what we, honestly, Jeff, I think that because there's so many other issues going on in the world, that until this got close to Assad actually going, which was just the last few days, this wasn't even being highly reported on in the United States or even followed that closely in the Western world. Sometimes you'd hear about Attacks in Syria focused on Iranians that happened to be there, but not really the idea that the Assad regime or these other groups, that there was an actual reality that we would wake up to see Assad with his family fleeing in Moscow. and then uncertainty about who is going to be in charge. What we have seen, though, Jeff, is the Biden administration already start throwing out with the final few months they've got in office that they are looking at removing the main group who was part of, and their leader who was part of overthrowing the Assad regime because they have said some good things. His name, Mohammed Ghazi Jalali, he, who is, that's a serious prime minister. HTS is the terror group. That group is being led by Abu Mohammed Al Ghulani. He's been designated a, and it's been designated a terror organization been linked to al-Qaeda, did cut ties with the group, did denounce the group in 2016 so there were some changes there. They didn't denounce them during the September 11th attacks though so remember that in their view of the United States but then they might rush to try and remove the group from the terror list. I think that the probably better move is let's see how they treat their own people first before we start making international decisions.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think that's right, Jordan. Look, Israel is already stepping in to protect the Kurds in the region, the Christians in the region. There are a lot of minority groups that need protection now. Let's also put this against the backdrop. There are over 20 million Arab Muslim refugees from this region circulating around the world right now. because there is an inherent problem that's been going on here for quite a while, for decades and decades in this region. And what we're seeing now played out in the microcosm in Syria is a bunch of different groups. They've overthrown a dictator who was brutal. He was terrible, but he was relatively stable. So stability has some value when you're talking about lessers of evils. We don't know what's going to emerge here, but what seems to be clear is that The domino effect of what happened when the Gazans launched that horrific attack on October 7th against Israel, and Israel was forced to respond. The domino effect of Hamas, and not just Hamas, but those in Gaza holding on to Israel's hostages, and by the way, including American citizens, and not releasing them, and therefore this war going on. The domino effect of that triggering response and attacks from Lebanon is now expanding out, And so I don't think that they really would have expected Israel to have been so successful. But at this point, people are talking here about the potential of the Iranian regime realizing maybe it needs to wave a white flag about its nuclear ambitions, but for real this time, because they recognize that the gloves are really off. Israel has the right and the ability, it's always the right, but the Americans restraining Israel, which has happened since October 7th, the Biden administration's restraint against Israel, it's coming apart. Everyone knows Trump is coming into office. And so the ability to flex, to create stability here in the Middle East, really Israel is the tip of that spear. And that's what they feel here in Israel.
SPEAKER 04 :
Jeff, as you look at the geography of where Syria is, many people, we haven't really thought about Syria because it's been in such a stalemate for their civil war for the past decade. But historically... Syria was, as it borders Israel in the Golan Heights area, the Syrian regime was just like Hezbollah for the Iranians. They were one of the proxies. So that Iran had Israel surrounded with Hamas in Gaza, the PA in the West Bank, or Judea and Samaria, even though they may not have been the militant arm, there were still the sympathies there. And then you had Hezbollah in the north, and then the Assad regime in Syria. The concern, I wonder, in Israel is when you had such a stalemate, and obviously they are happy Assad is gone, but that something like a resurgence of ISIS, which I reminded people earlier was the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, puts potentially a caliphate, a second world-dominant ideology, not just the Iranians, but a caliphate-driven Islamic terrorist organization potentially as a neighbor to Israel. When you look at Damascus to Israel on the map, it's a couple hours' drive. What do you get and read from there with, I know we talked about the devil you know kind of issue, but with a stalemate there, are there concerns that a new terror threat could rise right next to Israel?
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Oh, absolutely. And what's extraordinary, and I'm glad you raised that, what's extraordinary is people immediately took to social media saying, oh, this is, you know, Israel's ambition to grab territory because now there are scenes of Israeli troops moving in that direction and moving into what had been Syria. Remember... All these countries, those lines are drawn by European colonialists on their way out. There's not really a natural Syrian border there. This is all created, and the peoples who live there, there's been friction, they've been rubbing against this now for decades and decades, and that's all the fallout you're seeing are these lines being drawn that don't reflect the actual population. And so, yes, there's a great concern. Israel... At any point, if it had interest in taking over that territory, it could have taken over that territory. They didn't. Now, and I will say this, if we remember, when President Trump was president, he acknowledged Israel's right to hold on to the Golan Heights, absolutely vital, I mean, critical. You can imagine what would be happening now if Israel didn't start with holding on to the Golan Heights and now launching further into Syrian territory, not because Israel wants to conquer or any kind of conquest, but like America, when America goes to war, It goes just to try to create peace and stability and to protect its own interests and its own citizens. In this case, that's what Israel's been doing. And so there is a great concern about exactly what you're raising. And Israel is going forward. And yet, of course, people are already saying this is an Israeli grab for territory. Israel could have grabbed this territory any time, at any point. If the last year hasn't shown anything, it's shown that. But Israel has refrained from doing it all at once. is peace. All it wants is stability and security, and it will be the best neighbor possible. And so it's reaching out its hands to all of these factions to see whether any of them will take it. And America, if America is a strong ally in America's interest, and again, people want to know why America should be supporting Israel at all. The answer is because Israel is the outpost that creates the strategic stability at all in the Middle East. It wouldn't exist otherwise. And that's what you're seeing now play itself out as Russia and China are pulling back. And America, because of Trump, is coming to the fore again. All of these things are happening rapid fire.
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If you're a supporter of the ACLJ or somebody who – cares about what we do shares our work supports our work financially tunes into this broadcast or watches this broadcast however you take part in aclj uh you know that we brought tulsi gabbard in uh to the aclj to into our broadcast as well uh to analyze a lot of what was going on politically and world events because of her military background. So both a political background that would give us insight into a different kind of part of the political world that we mostly knew. I mean, we're operating on the right a lot more than we're operating on the left. And she's been able to, I think, Go right through and do what most Americans care about, which is talk about issues and politics in the sense of how do we make things better? Things that we mostly agree on anyways. It's just how we get them done. Some of these things are battling these big actors. I mean, the fact that she's got the hundred... Intel and security officials and former State Department people letter. These are the same people that lied to you about the Hunter Biden laptop. I mean, they might not be all the exact same names, but it's the same group and coming together. They are protecting Washington. And they know that Donald Trump is already a problem. But when you have Donald Trump and he actually puts people in, like he did with Rick Rennell as acting DNI, and he puts people in like Tulsi Gabbard, they have two jobs. One is to be the director of national intelligence, to keep America safe, to keep you safe. But another part of that job, other than briefing the president on the threats and issues like that that face the country, is making sure that the intelligence agencies haven't turned on the United States of America and aren't abusing the laws and their ability of what they can do with the tools that they have and the budgets they have and the lack of oversight to violate American people's own rights. So she has been nominated for Director of National Intelligence for the cabinet. This is someone we work with very close to the ACLJ. And you've gotten to know her at least through this broadcast, maybe through some others as well. But we think you've got to stand up with your friends. When they are offered these positions, you know that they are going to get attacked, especially in her situation, Will, being a Democrat. I think when she started here on Sekulow, she had left the Democrat Party but hadn't joined the Republican Party until a couple weeks before the election. Had done work with RFK as well. They did their own events where they were bringing in thousands of people and lots of new people. to the MAGA world and to the Trump world. So why is it important for you to sign these petitions? Listen, support the work that we do and you care about our issues. When our people are getting put into those positions, potentially, they've got to go through confirmation. We need to be there. We need to support them. Now we're going to do that with our government affairs team. They will deliver these petitions. I've asked you if you're in those six states where she is meeting or has met with senators from those states to make that positive phone call about Tulsi to ACLJ and remind her of the secular broadcast. A supportive call there. But no, she is going to come under some serious attack by the left. So our petition really does matter. We can make this really big. We're just starting this out as quick as we can so that we can move this petition along. Go and sign it. ACLJ.org slash sign. And if you can't donate a dollar to the ACLJ right now because of where you are financially, you can still sign this petition for nothing at all. and it's that important it's so important that our government affairs team and ACLJ action is able to get this into the hands of every senate office but let's make sure when we do before those confirmation hearings begin that we've got as many thousands of ACLJ members and supporters on there as possible and that takes you taking that action by signing the petition at aclj.org sign and we'll we're starting early because we know the attacks are going to be big and this is They've had kind of their, they targeted Matt Gaetz. That didn't last very long. Then there's been two other targets, Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard. And I think actually it's Tulsi Gabbard is now target one because she was a former Democrat.
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That's right. And when you look at these these intelligence officials letters, whether it be the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation or now Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset letter that is coming. You always look at who the top line name is because they get a bunch of people that have worked somewhere in some office or was some random undersecretary that you've never heard of. But you got to look at the top line names. And that tells you all you need to know about who the people are that are coming after Tulsi Gabbard. Wendy Sherman, Jordan, is the top line signature. This is the epitome of the swamp monster, right? Wendy Sherman has worked in diplomacy or in the State Department since Bill Clinton's presidency. She was in Barack Obama's administration. She was the lead negotiator for the failed Iranian nuclear deal. So if you're going to start talking about intelligence and who should be the director of national intelligence and someone that was the lead negotiator could not really understand what Iran was trying to pull over on you. and got that through and you're saying this person shouldn't be the director of national intelligence that should be worn with a badge of honor because Wendy Sherman is the epitome of everything that is wrong with the state department the failed diplomacy of the left and the Obama Biden years of state department diplomacy she also we found out she knew the ACLJ found out she knew even though the state department denied it at first that we were funding Mahmoud Abbas's son through an NGO our state department to try and overthrow Bibi Netanyahu she is against everything that conservatives voted for and not just conservatives the country This election cycle. So if she's saying don't confirm Tulsi Gabbard, if she's trying to get senators to be on alert, I think that is one of the top reasons Tulsi Gabbard should be confirmed as the next director of national intelligence, because she will push back against these swamp monsters.
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Yeah, I mean, she goes back to the North Korea days, too. And agreements that were not being followed. But it's more than just were they Democrats, because there's Republicans on the list too. They are all on the same boards of directors at the same universities, and they protect... each other it's some it's it's like some kind of agreement that they have where politically they may be appointed by different people and so they've got some years out some years in because you have the politically appointed branch of these agencies and you have the bureaucratic branch but we know that if you've made friends and the bureaucratic branch supports you I think most of us have to you know step back and say okay that that's a warning sign It's a warning sign whether they're Republican or Democrat that if these people hadn't come out and signed the letter, I think I'd be more nervous about these nominees, especially for these intelligence positions because they don't want them to know what? The truth? They don't want them to know how politicized the intelligence has or how we are, again, abusing the constitutional rights of Americans. So we make people out to be Russian assets who are still currently serving in our U.S. military with an over two-decade career. It has a top-level security clearance. That wasn't removed then. It wasn't taken out of the military. With our meetings in Syria, as Will said, meeting with basically every part of that multifaceted conflict before it even got worse. support Tulsi's nomination, go to aclj.org slash sign. She's been a part of many of your days here as she joined our team. Let's stand with her. aclj.org slash sign. Let's get thousands of signatures before we even begin the confirmation hearings.
In this insightful episode of Washington Watch, the dialogue expands to global security threats with retired Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin. The conversation covers the geopolitical landscape, highlighting concerns over China's economic prowess, the Syrian conflict, and the necessity of redefining military priorities. Tune in to understand the implications of these challenges and how they shape the future of U.S. defense and international diplomacy.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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We have to break this endless cycle of having policies that entice people to come to our country illegally because that is the lack. We're losing sovereignty and losing control over our nation.
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That was South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, the ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee earlier today at a hearing on President-elect Donald Trump's plan to deport those who are in the United States illegally. Welcome to a special edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. We're broadcasting in front of a live audience at our media center here in Washington, D.C. Well, coming up on this Tuesday edition, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee who was a part of today's hearing, will join us here in studio in just a moment. And we are one step closer to victory on the National Defense Reauthorization Act that has been laden with leftist social policies in the last few years.
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We're proud of this product. It was released over the weekend and it includes critical wins for our troops and for our country at a very important time. We stopped funds from going to CRT and our military academies. We banned TRICARE from prescribing treatments that would ultimately sterilize our kids. And we gutted the DEI bureaucracy.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson earlier today. We're going to talk more about that because you weighed in and you helped make a difference as we have seen this bill cleaned up. Now, it still has a few more hurdles to go. We'll talk about that later. Also, we are going to return to the topic of Syria today as how to influence the future of Syria and the broader Middle East will be a major question for the incoming Trump administration.
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The end of this regime is a defeat for all who enabled its barbarity and its corruption, none more than Iran, Hezbollah, and Russia. So this moment presents a historic opportunity, but it also carries considerable risks. History shows how quickly moments of promise can descend into conflict,
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and violence. That was Secretary of State Antony Blinken yesterday. Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin, retired from the United States Army, joins me to discuss steps the incoming administration could take to stabilize that region. And federal and state authorities are saying they have no clues about the mysterious drones that have been sighted with growing frequency on the East Coast over U.S. air bases and other facilities. New Jersey has had the largest number of reported sightings, and New Jersey Congressman Chris Smith, who met last night with state and federal officials in search of answers, will join us later on this edition of Washington Watch. Well, as we've been discussing each day here on Washington Watch, the world is in a volatile state and prayer for our nation and our allies is needed. So I want to invite you to join us in Operation Prayer Shield. Thousands of Christians from across the country are joined together in praying for our nation and for our allies. If you'd like to join us, simply text the word SHIELD, that's S-H-I-E-L-D, to 67742. You'll receive weekly alerts, daily prayer points, and more. So text the word SHIELD to 67742. Also, I want to remind those of you who are on our journey through the Bible, stand on the word. The second volume of our Stand on the Word journal is now available. So don't forget to order your copy by going to TonyPerkins.com or text the word journal to 67742. And if you're not familiar with our journey through the Bible, well, text the word Bible to 67742 and I'll let you know all about it. Well, the House and the Senate compromised version. They have come together in an agreement over the National Defense Authorization Act. It's expected to come up for a final vote later this week in the House. Yesterday, key military service organizations announced their support for the NDAA, which they said provides service members and their families the support they need. The annual defense policy bill has also been praised for weeding out the woke policies at the Department of Defense that have made it hard to recruit and to keep good service members. And it left out the language that the Senate's version had included to force women age 18 and older to register for selective service. something that my next guest helped lead the charge against in the United States Senate. He was here on the program last week talking about it. You responded, and that language came out. With me now in person to talk more about this is Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri. He serves on four Senate committees, including the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. Senator Hawley, welcome back to the program. Thank you. Great to be with you. And congratulations on, yes... I need one of those soundtracks during the week so I can always have a crowd with me.
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That language is out. It's out. It's out, which is a big victory. As we talked about last week, it never should have been in the first place, Tony. It's an absolute affront to women, to families. to our sense of the differences between male and female, which of course the left is trying to erase everywhere we look, but it is out of the bill, which is a tremendous victory, and now we can go forward and continue to do what we need to do to get the military out of the abortion business, which they're currently in as well.
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Right. And just for review, for the benefit of our audience, one of the concerns about forcing women to register for the draft, as the military has had difficulty in recruiting and in its retention because of its woke policies, many of which were pulled out in this latest version, they were – I think the reality of going back to a draft is real.
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Oh, it is real. I mean, particularly as we continue to proliferate the number of conflicts we're involved in. You look at what this administration's done, the path they've led us down. We've got conflicts all over the world. They've committed us in resources and troops, all kinds of places. So the possibility of a draft is a very real thing. There's a huge shortfall in retention and recruitment. And forcing women to register, again, compulsory registration, is something that they were looking at to try and stem that tide.
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Now, you previously served on the Senate Armed Services Committee. You're now on the Judiciary Committee. But you've got a lot of military presence in your state of Missouri, so you keep up with those issues. Are you satisfied with the current version of the National Defense Authorization Act?
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Well, I'm still reviewing the final text. It hasn't come over to us yet in the Senate, so I want to look and see exactly what passes the House.
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So you're not of the Nancy Pelosi school of government where you pass it, then read it?
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Yeah, I prefer to read it first, you know, as a general. Yeah, just, you know, an idea. Unusual in Congress, but just an idea. But I do think that, listen, it's a huge improvement to get out the draft our daughters language. It is a major win to have language in there that prevents the military health care service from spending money on transgender surgeries, which is good. I'm concerned that the Biden administration has been spending hundreds of millions of dollars on transgender surgeries through the VA, which I don't like at all. So I want to look carefully at all of that language. But listen, I think this is headed in the right direction. And there's going to be a lot more work to do under a Trump administration.
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Do you see more accomplishments on weeding out some of the policies that the Biden administration has put in place in these last four years? I mean, recall in 2016, Donald Trump ended a Barack Obama era policy of transgenderism in the military. Is it possible to go back and revisit these things that have undermined the effectiveness of our military?
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Oh, it is. It's not only possible. I think it's absolutely necessary. And I'm sitting down with Pete Hegseth, the president's nominee for Secretary of Defense. It's either tomorrow or the next day. This is something I look forward to talking with him about. I mean, we've got a lot of work to do to get our military back to being the most lethal, ready fighting force in the world. That's their job. Their job is not to be a social experiment for their left. Their job is not to be an anti-family, anti-woman organization. Their job is not to be an experiment in transgenderism. It's to protect us. And I know the president understands that, and I hope that this will be a top priority for him and for his new defense secretary come January 20th.
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Speaking of our military and, as you mentioned, the conflicts that we have been engaged in, the world's a very volatile place with what we're going to talk more today about Syria with the fall of Bashar al-Assad. I cannot recall a time, certainly in my lifetime, but I think going all the way back to World War II, maybe even beyond, where we've seen the world so unsettled.
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Well, that's exactly right. And we're also facing a peer competitor in China. This is something that none of us have seen in our lifetimes. You think about the Soviet Union, how powerful they were. They never had an economy ever to rival ours. I mean, it's sort of close in the 50s. After that, we blew them away economically. China is already with us toe-to-toe economically. Their military is larger than ours is. So we've got them. We've got Russia, of course. We've got North Korea. We've got Iran. I mean, we've got a lot of problems in the world. And this is why it's important to have a new president.
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I would agree about the assessment of China. In fact, I think China is probably the greatest threat, maybe not the greatest short-term threat, but it is clearly the greatest long-term threat to this country.
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Absolutely.
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What do we need to be doing on that front?
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Well, we need to be sending the clear message that we're not going to allow them just to expand indefinitely all across the world. We're not going to put up with their imperialism. And we need to be also... sending the clear message, we're not going to allow them to cannibalize our economy, which this president, this current president, has absolutely allowed. We are right now, Tony, paying Chinese auto manufacturers who make electric vehicles. We are sending them tax subsidies to make electric vehicles in China and then sell them back to us at a premium. That's our tax money. I mean, it is unbelievable.
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You would think after COVID, when they withheld the personal protective devices that we needed from the disease that they created, that we would have rethought this relationship and brought more of that manufacturing onto our own shores or at least into our own hemisphere.
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And we haven't done any of that. And in fact, this administration's gone in the opposite direction. Their Green New Deal is just a code for massive giveaways to China. China has benefited so much. Solar panels, where are they made overwhelmingly? China. Wind turbines, made in China. And not just made by anybody, made by slave populations, the Uyghurs who are an enslaved religious minority. And here we are literally financing that. It's insane. It's absolutely insane. We've got to stop that.
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And there's a personal responsibility there, too, especially as we come up on the Christmas season, people shopping. I always turn it over to look at made-in-where. You bet. And there's so many of our products. It's becoming difficult to actually find products not made in China.
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I think we ought to say to these foreign manufacturers that are based in other countries, whether it's China or anywhere else, if you want to have access to our market— You've got to make a certain percentage of your goods in the United States of America with American labor.
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And certainly not be hostile to the values that we as a nation say we uphold. And I think that was the idea back in the 1990s with the agreements with China with most favored nation status, that it was going to change them. Unfortunately, I think it's changed us more than it's changed them.
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And just look at the NBA. You remember LeBron James just a few years ago advocating for what was happening in Hong Kong, dramatic crackdown on democracy in Hong Kong. And LeBron James is out there defending the Chinese government. Why? Well, it's all about the money. They need the access to the Chinese market. This is your point. It's changed us, not them.
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We have elevated the dollar. more than the Almighty when it comes to the values and the morality that this country was founded upon. We just have about a minute and a half left. One quick question. As you were Attorney General of Missouri, you did a lot on big tech, tracking them and what they were doing to exploit the American people. Do you foresee, given what we saw during COVID, what's come forward with this administration, is there going to be a crackdown on Big tech.
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I hope so, and I hope one of the things we'll go after is how they're exposing our kids to content about promoting gender transitions. You look at the explosion in gender transition surgeries, gender dysphoria. Where's that coming from? It's coming from those social media platforms, and they know very well what's on their platforms. They know they're exposing our kids to it, and they're making gobs of money off of it. How do we get at that? Well, I think what we've got to do is give parents the ability to protect their kids. And right now, these big tech companies, if your child, if they take a picture of your child off your Facebook page and they exploit it, and they expose your kid to child pornography, or they turn that picture into child pornography, you can't do anything about it. You can't sue them. You can't challenge them. You can't get a hearing. Section 230. Section 230. We've got to change that.
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All right. Well, hopefully we'll get at that in this next administration. Senator Josh Hawley, always great to see you. Thank you for your leadership on the Hill. Thank you for fighting for faith, family, and freedom. And thanks for joining us here today on Watch for Head Watch.
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Thank you.
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Let's thank Senator Josh Hawley. All right, when we come back, I'll be joined by FRC's very own retired Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin to discuss some of the latest developments in Syria following the collapse of the brutal Assad regime. Stay tuned for more.
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Part of the dilemma of Christianity in our generation is that we've relied a little too much on human wisdom and human reasoning, human strength, human resource, and we've relied too little on the power of God and God's ability to open doors that we can't open and do things that we couldn't even hope to begin to do.
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This may not be an easy task, But we are living in a moment of challenge, but also a great opportunity. And we know, always, that we are not alone, that His Spirit empowers us and protects us, and that He can do the unimaginable. Dobbs, after all, was never supposed to happen.
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Father, we thank you. You have entrusted us with this moment in history, and I pray that we would be found faithful, and that as a result of our faithfulness to you, that thousands, millions would come into the kingdom as they would experience the forgiveness of sin and the new life that is found only in Jesus Christ. Amen. We'll come back to a special edition of Washington Watch with a live audience here. Isn't it a wonderful looking audience? of partners from across the country that are joining us here today in our media center at our headquarters in Washington, D.C. Well, the Israeli military carried out more airstrikes across Syria overnight into Tuesday as a part of their effort to destroy weapons, aircraft, and military facilities that could pose a threat to Israel following the collapse of the brutal Assad regime. The Israeli defense minister said today that he and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had instructed the military to create in southern Syria a zone free of weapons and terrorist threats. It's a move that has been condemned by U.N. officials and some Middle Eastern nations, including Iran, which is urging the United Nations Security Council to respond. Does anyone really want weapons to fall into the hands of Islamist rebels who have ties to terrorism? With me now to discuss this and more is retired Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin, Executive Vice President here at the Family Research Council. General Boykin spent the last four years of his 36-and-a-half-year military career serving as the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence. He was also one of the original members of the U.S. Army's Delta Force. General Boykin, welcome to Washington Watch.
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Good to be back.
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And you'll notice I'm in your honor. I'm wearing a pink shirt tonight, all right? So I just wanted you to be aware of that.
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No comment.
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All right. Let's talk about – yesterday we were on discussing Syria, the fall of Bashar al-Assad, his regime. Israel taking this opportunity to move rapidly to make sure that what was left behind there cannot be picked up and used against them. Smart move?
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Absolutely. This is a big thing. And it's a great opportunity for Israel, too. And they're going to be criticized, obviously, for this. But they have an opportunity now to set the stage for actually being able to have negotiations with this incoming group if they're inclined to do so. And I think that what we have to be careful of is – not putting lethal aid in their hands because we have a history of doing that.
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Right. You're talking into the hands of the rebels.
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In the hands of the rebels. Now, on the other hand, I think we ought to go in with massive humanitarian relief. Because there's still, from the Civil War that started in 2011, there's a lot of people that are displaced. And we've talked to some of them. We've dealt with some of the Christians and others in that part of the country. But they are going to need massive aid if they want to get this country back together. And that will... in fact, help them to accept this new regime if they could broker with us and the United Nations and others to get something in there that will be of real use.
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Is this something that the incoming Trump administration could do to leverage humanitarian aid for certain parameters in terms of human rights, religious freedom, and other conditions?
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Oh yeah, there have to be caveats to it, absolutely. There's an enclave, and I'm not sure that everybody's aware of it, but there is an enclave up there that has Christians.
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In the northeast part of it.
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Yeah, you have three different religions in there, and they live peacefully. They live together, and they live peacefully.
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But Turkey is breathing down their necks.
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Turkey, and sadly, when the Turks crossed the border into that area, Under Donald Trump's leadership, he pulled the Americans out of there. And so they were able to do just about what they wanted to do when they went across that border down there. And you sent me and Michelle Bachmann and Carter over to sit down with his national security advisors to ask him, don't do this. But he did, now I'm not criticizing him because I'm one of those people that thinks that he's gonna do a real service to this nation.
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Earlier today, we were talking with Chris Mitchell, CBN, Middle East Bureau Chief, and he was saying that the Islamic rebels that overthrew Bashar al-Assad were being aided by Turkey, by Erdogan. And so that gives Turkey an in into Syria as he seeks to reestablish the caliphate, the Ottoman Empire, as his big dream.
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Yeah, most of these people that are part of this rebel force were at one time called the Free Syrian Army. And I was working some stuff on the periphery on this when the Civil War was going on. And from all accounts, they had the right attitude. They were there for the right reasons. They wanted a democratic government, and they wanted to improve the lives of their people because Bashar al-Assad and his father before him lived an incredibly ostentatious lifestyle, sort of like Saddam Hussein when they finally saw what he was doing. So I think that... I think there's a great possibility that we could see things turn around there.
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Iran is a big loser in this because they were able to profit from part of the relationship there with Syria. They're in bad shape in terms of their ability, no longer able to use Hezbollah, Hamas is decimated, so their proxies are pretty much gone. Could this force Iran into a more desperate position to pursue even more rapidly the nuclear capabilities?
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Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, that's a good question, and I don't really know how to answer that, to be honest with you, because I think that they're much closer than they let on to having a nuclear weapon right now if their delivery system is what they've got problems with.
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All right, I've just got a minute left. General, what should the incoming Trump administration do to head that off?
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All right. the toughest sanctions that we can possibly use against them should be done right away, immediately, because they are violating the JCPOA to start with, and this administration has done absolutely nothing
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in response to that. They've unfrozen many assets and helped them actually fund their terrorist activities.
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That's what they've done. That's exactly right. That's right.
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General Jerry Boykin, always great to have you on the program. Thanks for joining us. Good to be with you. And we're going to be watching this very, very closely. All right, folks, still to come, we're going to be joined by Congressman Chris Smith of New Jersey. Some drones flying over the East Coast. What are they about? Well, he was investigating that last night. And then coming up next, Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma joins me to talk more about the welfare of Christians in Syria. That's next. No, go away. It begins here. And here. And here. Every day. Before you stand, you need solid ground. Standing in a culture that wants you to surrender the truth won't work unless you have a firm foundation. At Family Research Council, we have that firm foundation. And you can find us standing. We stand for the value of all human life. We stand for the right of families to flourish. And every day we stand for your freedom to believe and to live out those beliefs both at home and abroad. We work with government officials, educating them on the issues from a biblical worldview. And when necessary, we hold them accountable. We equip Christians across America to be informed and to take action in their communities. With our daily radio program, television appearances, and vast online presence, we reach people where they are. We envision an America where all human life is valued, families flourish, and religious liberty thrives. And that won't be realized if we're not standing. Stand for faith. Stand for family. Stand for freedom. Stand with us at FRC.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Thanks, Tony. I wish I could be sitting there with you in the live audience there, so thanks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, they send their regards and their gratitude for the work that you do on behalf of families. So let's talk about the fall of the Assad regime. Where does that leave Christians that still remain in that nation? Because as bad as he was, he kind of had a hands-off approach when it came to Christians.
SPEAKER 07 :
He did, actually. He allowed Christians to be able to be there. The challenge has been over the last now decade and a half is that there's been an ongoing civil war in Syria. So it's been chaos more than anything else there for the longest period of time. So we have groups like ISIS that has thrived in Syria. We have the new other terrorist groups that are there. Iran has found a highway through Syria to be able to deliver weapons to Hezbollah. Hezbollah has come in and reinforced Hezbollah. Assad. So the Kurds that are on the eastern part of the nation, we've continued to be able to stand with them because they are more peace-loving and freedom-focused. So it's been total chaos in Syria for now a decade and a half. The challenge now is how do the Syrian people reinvent a nation that's been in so much chaos post the Assad regime? And it is a very dangerous moment for both the Christians that are there and, quite frankly, everyone who is freedom-loving in that area.
SPEAKER 06 :
Could this be yet another refugee crisis in the making?
SPEAKER 07 :
It could be. Here's the interesting thing. Refugees that were Syrian refugees that had left and gone to Turkey or had gone into Lebanon have started returning back to Syria already. Now, that's just the beginning. That's the earliest days of that. But the Lebanese are seeing a little bit of optimism to say all these refugees that have been here, they may be returning back to Syria as they're trying to be able to rebuild their lives and their nation again. So it's unknown at this point, and that's the challenge as you're praying for peace in the region on this, which is incredibly important to be able to have both for Israel and for all our allies in the area. It's that the freedom-loving, peace-loving folks that were refugees, as they return back, they help build a more peaceful, stable Syria long-term.
SPEAKER 06 :
We've been discussing today the northeastern portion of Syria where you have really a very eclectic gathering of people of different religions, different faith backgrounds, but operating and living in peace and harmony. They have been under the thumb, the attacks of Turkey as they've crossed the border there. What do you anticipate their fate will be?
SPEAKER 07 :
We have 900 American troops that are in that area in northeastern Syria. They're fighting an anti-ISIS mission. In fact, just in the past couple of days, the United States has taken almost 100 strikes against ISIS stronghold locations since the fall of Assad. So many Americans don't know that the United States is still fighting a war against terrorism and ISIS in particular there. There are literally thousands of ISIS prisoners that are being held in that area in jails that are run by the Kurds. So that is a very important area. The challenge is the Turks consider the Kurds terrorists, and they're at active war against them. And they've had multiple times that they've crossed the border from Turkey into northeastern Syria to be able to attack those forces. So if the United States withdraws, we'll see a proliferation of ISIS through that area. The Turks will actually slaughter the Kurds in that area. So that area is also a very tenuous, very difficult zone that the United States has a national interest in.
SPEAKER 06 :
Are you concerned about the influence of Turkey in this vacuum that we now have in Syria?
SPEAKER 07 :
I am very concerned about that. Turkey has been actively supporting some of the rebels that have been fighting against Assad because Turkey doesn't want to see the overrun from that into their country. But they're also very active in fighting against the Kurds who they hate, who we actually ally with. So they are a NATO ally. Turkey has been an ally long term. But Erdogan has not been predictable, nor consistent, and nor peace-loving, quite frankly, in this process. He interacts with Russia as much as he interacts with us, though he is a NATO ally. So it is a very difficult time, not only for Syria, but also for the future of that alliance with NATO and with Turkey.
SPEAKER 06 :
We just have about a minute left, Senator Lankford. The incoming administration, the Trump administration, what steps do they need to take, in your opinion, to bring greater stability to this region?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, they should do a couple of things. They should tell Russia to be able to get out as Russia has now fled from Syria. They were the one of the major stabilizing forces. They need to tell Iran to be able to get out of Syria. That's not their business. Iran is using Syria as a proxy to then attack Israel. So if we're going to stand with Israel, We need to stand for Iran getting out of Syria and Russia out of Syria. But we also need to stand with those Kurds. If we walk away from the Kurds and they get slaughtered by the Turks, no nation anywhere on earth will partner with the United States for a very long time, because they'll say, you'll stand with us when it's convenient for you, and then when it's not convenient, we'll be slaughtered. And so that will affect our national policy for a very long time. Syria needs to evaluate what happens next with Syria. That's not our country. That's not our war. But we do have an ally there and we should stand with them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I completely understand and agree. Senator James Lankford, always great to see you. Thanks for joining us today.
SPEAKER 07 :
You bet. Good to see you again.
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Well, I talked to many people who have, including the Coast Guard, one of the officers, top people. He said that one of their 47-foot rescue boats the night before, so that's two nights ago, had several, more than a dozen drones following them as they went up and down the ocean.
SPEAKER 06 :
And how big are these drones?
SPEAKER 15 :
About the size of a car. So these are big. They're big. They're big. And that same night, one of the Ocean County sheriff officers observed 50, five zero, of these things coming from the ocean, across the sand, and into, like, the mainland, suggesting that they're being deployed via a ship. And... I can't believe we had a meeting, you know, a Zoom meeting with our governor in Mayorkas several days ago. And, you know, the governor is saying there's nothing to worry about. We have questions, which how do you know that? Well, that's my question. But Mayorkas himself, it was like he was clueless. So I've asked the Department of Defense. I talked to our joint base commander at the joint base, which is a huge, you know, big three different services and more because there are many, many tenants there, but Army, Navy, and Air Force, about their capability because they can, if a drone goes on there within their defense perimeter, they will bring it down or they'll identify it. And he says, we got the capability. I said, well, we need it. But they haven't used it. They haven't used it. So I've asked, and I was at a hearing earlier today asking the FBI, why aren't you asking the Department of Defense, which has this ability, because the FBI's budget for drones is $500,000, which is, you know, nothing versus the challenge. But the DOD does have that capability. So I'm asking them to... with their own people. They don't want to share with anybody. Well, that's fine. Go and bring some of these things down and find out who they are. And I think we probably will be shocked when we learn China, Putin, or the rest.
SPEAKER 06 :
So just to be clear, the news reports, I mean, this has been growing in frequency. And these are not just like somebody's, you know, you buy off Amazon one of these drones. These are the size of cars, some of them the size of SUVs. They're over military installations. They're over electrical power facilities. And the FBI and other reports that I've seen said that the federal government has no idea what these are, but they tell us we don't have to be concerned. It's absurd.
SPEAKER 15 :
How is that? That's what I said. How do you know that? You should say, we hope we don't have concerns, but we better investigate.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is this like the Chinese balloon that went all the way across the country?
SPEAKER 15 :
And this may be much worse. because there are so many of them. They've been deployed. They'll be there tonight somewhere in large numbers. One of the mayors in Toms River, he got reports of like five or six of them showing up in Toms River, which is in my district. But the ones coming across from the ocean, that's really the $64 question. I even asked Mayorkas on that Zoom, Why can't we follow them and figure out what their origination is?
SPEAKER 06 :
Don't we have that capability? Do we not know if there's a ship out there that they're coming from? I mean, this is elementary.
SPEAKER 15 :
The Coast Guard should be going, or the military, find out if that's what their home base is. And you could run these things out of Beijing or out of Moscow or wherever you want to do it.
SPEAKER 06 :
But obviously— We just— It's just foolish. We just recognized the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. Yeah. where, in fact, just down the street here at the National Archives a few years ago, I went into the vault where members can go to see uncirculated documents, and one of those was the plotting chart of the radar station.
SPEAKER 15 :
And you know where that was made? In my district, Camp Evans. About an hour before The Zeros bombed the Missouri and all the other battleship row and all the rest. We saw it on the radar screen and translated or sent that into headquarters. And they did do anything? They didn't do anything about it. So we had advance warning. Back then, it was made by district.
SPEAKER 06 :
So this seems to be a very serious threat. It could be yet another probe by the Chinese or some other force to see what our response is, just like our failed response with the balloon.
SPEAKER 15 :
I still can't believe the balloon situation. I mean, really. You know, back in 1998, I wrote the Embassy Security Act. And when we were hit by al-Qaeda in Dar es Salaam and in Nairobi, I'll never forget, at my hearings, because I held oversight hearings, we had Admiral Crowe, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He spoke and he said, nobody thought they would ever hit there. It was like a soft target. I said, you've got to have some imagination to say, these are very evil people, and they'll find a soft target and they'll take it out. And now we're dealing with something which I find amazing. They're going to infrastructure, critical infrastructure, hovering over there, doing what?
SPEAKER 06 :
And so the military is restricted from taking any action.
SPEAKER 15 :
They claim that. But, you know, they've got to defend the homeland, don't they? You know, it's not just homeland security.
SPEAKER 06 :
I hope they're not going to wait for a call from the White House if hostile forces come over to do something. I know.
SPEAKER 15 :
Proactive, find out who they are, ascertain it, and then take deliberate action. If it means shooting a few of them down, they can bring them down. They have the capability.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, if they were flying over south Louisiana, we've got some folks out there that can take them down, too. By the way, I should mention that Congressman Chris Smith has passed, in Congress, he has passed more legislation than any other member of Congress passing, 49 pieces of major legislation, which is quite a significant accomplishment.
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Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because getting Congress to do something, well, you've heard that, like, takes an act of Congress. Well, there's a reason they say that. That's right. Let me, we've got a few minutes left, Congressman Chris Smith. I want to kind of go back to a topic we touched on earlier, and it connects to this topic. If, in fact, this could be the Chinese that are probing our defenses, or they could be behind these drones. Senator Josh Hawley was with us earlier, and talking about threats to the country, and certainly we have some short-term, immediate threats in the Middle East. But long-term, he and I both agree that China poses the greatest threat to our country and to our values. And in many ways, we're funding them. We're funding our enemies. We are.
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I've been speaking out on China even before Tiananmen Square. I had a bill saying that because of forced abortion, a crime against humanity, that was in 1984. But after Tiananmen Square, when Bill Clinton linked human rights with trade, we all applauded him. One year later, he delinked. And that's when the Chinese took the measure of the United States of America and said, all they care about are profits. I'm for profits. But there needs to be linkage. They're an export economy. They can't survive militarily or any other way without American markets. And we're feeding the foe that wishes us to be destroyed. Taiwan, they want to take over because it's an economic powerhouse. They already took over Hong Kong. But the hegemony that they have for the whole region is so real. Just ask the Philippines and the leaders there. They have global ambitions. Xi Jinping is a dictator who fashions himself as Mao Zedong. I chair the China Commission. I've had well over 110 congressional hearings, barred from going to China now. Frank Wolf and I went there several times. They wanted to throw us out every time because we would raise human rights and especially religious freedom. But you have a situation where we armed them. And Bill Clinton, just for the record, when he de-linked trade from human rights, May 26, 1994, that's when we lost China. And I don't know if we ever get it back. I have a bill in now to relink human rights, because again, if they respect fundamental human rights, let's have a trade war with them, not something other than that.
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I made this comment with Senator Hawley. And I say this from my observation, previously chairing the US Commission on International Religious Freedom, As I watched from a distance when that happened in 1994, that was just prior to me getting into the political arena, when we separated human rights from economic activity and trade, it did more to change America than it did China. That's true. In that we now have devalued human rights, really the rule of law, and we have elevated profit at almost any cost.
SPEAKER 15 :
Great point. You know, we're admonished in the scriptures, do not be conformed to this world. It's bad enough a more secularized society, but when you conform to a Chinese communist dictatorship or communists anywhere who hate God, hate people, the ruling elite are the only ones who prosper, I should say, in a dictatorship, the devaluation is ever present. Right. On every area. I mean, right now, they're killing people, children, 28-year-olds, to get their organs. I have a bill that passed the House, forced organ harvesting.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is a real thing. This has been documented. The U.K. did extensive hearings into this. It was rumored, but they have documented the fact that there is organ harvesting. literally killing people for their organs and selling them on the international market. It's become a tourist activity to come to China to get a heart, to get a liver, to get a organ. that they're taking from oftentimes religious or political prisoners.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's exactly what they do. And I even had one of the doctors that did them. And he said one of his victims wasn't even properly anesthetized. And they usually take two to three organs per person, average age 28. I've had four hearings on it, and I just can't believe that we can't get the State Department to do more or the president. And I still can't believe that the Senate is blocking my bill right now, forced organ harvesting,
SPEAKER 06 :
What would your legislation do?
SPEAKER 15 :
It would do a number of things. It would make sure that anyone who knowingly procures such an organ goes to Shanghai and is knowingly procuring it under less than voluntary circumstances. They're held to account, the brokers, the Chinese leaders that are part of this, starting from the very top, Xi Jinping. We can sanction them so that they can't do business here on any other level. and would require extensive, aggressive reporting by the Department of State, which they haven't done. So it's like they don't want to see it. They don't want to hear about it. They don't want to talk about it. They don't want to have to act on it. And I think they're blocking it over on the Senate side by getting— Let's talk about the—we've just got a couple minutes left.
SPEAKER 06 :
But the influence—people don't realize this. I was shocked by this because I, too, have been sanctioned by China. I can't go to China. You and I both. Yeah. So I can't—that slow boat to China that I've always heard about, I can't take it. Right. But China has tremendous influence in our Congress. Oh, yes. Talk about that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, they often use surrogates. They are in contact, obviously. But they often get many in the business community to do their bidding. They get many in the executive branch to do it. And they do it very effectively. For years, the whole idea was if we just trade more, they will matriculate from a dictatorship to a democracy. I said, you believe that, I'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. It's never happened. We've got to have conditionality that is absolutely ironclad about human rights. And if we did that, we would have had a different China. I have a bill in right now that says, let's relink human rights to trade. And it hasn't passed yet, but I'm going to push very hard for it next year. I mean, look what Bill Clinton did when he brought in . Here's the guy that was the operational commander for Tiananmen Square for the murders that took place there. He goes to the Army War College and says, nobody died at Tiananmen Square. I couldn't believe it. There he is being vetted by Clinton. 19-gun salute. Everybody's marching in front of the White House with him and this now head of their DOD equivalent. He's a murderer. He should be at the Hague for crimes against humanity. So I had people who bore witness to the fact that many people died, including somebody from the People's Daily who tried to report on it, went to prison himself. But it just shows the art of the big lie, and so many people here are willing to buy into it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just about 30 seconds left.
SPEAKER 15 :
And the law firms up here, the K Street types, they are so effective at killing things at the committee level. They get a lot of money. Tons of money. A lot of money.
SPEAKER 06 :
But what does this do to those that are yearning for freedom that are looking to America?
SPEAKER 15 :
It discourages them. They don't think we're a friend. They often don't get the information except through Radio Free Asia and other kinds of surrogate broadcasting, but it doesn't get through to them in many cases because they get nothing but propaganda. I had a famous hearing in 2006 with Google, Microsoft, Cisco, and Yahoo. They're totally...
SPEAKER 06 :
misrepresenting you know genesis square and everything else well they've erased that from their history books it's right out there and you go to do a google search in beijing if i did it you can't find it chris smith thanks for joining us today thanks for your leadership well thank you thanks for fighting for faith family and freedom folks thank you for joining us today and until next time i leave you with the encouraging words the apostle paul says when you've done everything you can do when you've prayed prepared and taken your stand by all means keep standing
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And welcome to the Tuesday. It is the two for Tuesday, December the 10th edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunnarsson. And I'm here with Chartered Financial Analyst Barry Kett. We've got a pretty good bounce going on in the NASDAQ today. It had a big sell-off yesterday, especially the momentum stocks. They were down about 2% yesterday. Today, the NASDAQ is up 129, closing in on 20,000. It's at 19,865 right now. But the Dow is down 64 points to 44,338 points. And the S&P 500 is up 8 points to 6,061. The small caps are down about 40 basis points here so far this morning. A little bump higher today in interest rates. They were up 4 basis points this morning. And we're back to 4.22%. We got down to 4.18% yesterday. Crude oil is at 68.31%. It has a demand issue right now. Not a lot of demand coming from China. Gold's got a little bit of life again. It's up 1.1%. The dollar's starting to kind of top out right now. So you might see a rally in gold. maybe we'll look for a trade there and bitcoin right now is down twenty one seventy one to ninety seven thousand seven eighty four so welcome to today's best stocks now show with professional money manager bill ganderson president of ganderson capital management a nationwide fee based only firm and i'm here with barry kite our chartered financial analyst and we did have a sell off yesterday In the tech, in the high tech, in the AI world, The nuclear stocks, which are all kind of bunched together right now. We'll call them the momentum stocks. And there is an ETF that tracks the momentum stocks. I don't know what you've got to do to qualify to become a momentum stock. I'm sure it has something to do with relative strength. But the MTUM ETF was down 2.1% yesterday. Sometimes, like I say most times, just looking at the surface of the market, just looking at the indexes, doesn't really tell the true story because as you looked underneath the indexes yesterday, you saw all the usual suspects. In other words, if you took the top 20 performers in the S&P 500 or the NASDAQ so far this year, they were the ones that got clipped yesterday. It could have had something to do with China, you know, China going after NVIDIA for being a monopoly. I looked at the market share for NVIDIA. About 12% of NVIDIA sales come from China. So I really don't see that as a big thing, but it might have had something to do. And valuations also. I'm starting to see the words... Oh, fluff, extended, expensive coming up. I put a chart in the newsletter on Saturday of both the S&P and the NASDAQ. In fact, four charts for each index showing the historical price to cash flow ratios, price to book value, price to sales, and price to earnings ratios. And you'll see they're closing in on 10-year highs right now. They're not quite there yet, but they're up there in the stratosphere right now. But we are getting a bounce, a pretty good bounce in the NASDAQ today here. so far. Well, that McDonald's in Pennsylvania, Barry, getting a lot of lousy reviews today. Apparently, there's a lot of sympathetic folks that are not fans of the the health insurers, especially United Healthcare, and because that kid Mangione, 26 years old, was found in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, which isn't too far from where we're heard in Pittsburgh on the... The Salem station there, they got a lot of bad reviews yesterday. Food made me sick, blah, blah, blah. And then they usually throw in something about the insurance companies to get their point across. So kind of a weird dynamic taking place right now. There's a lot of folks, obviously, that think what he did was justified, which is kind of crazy. But, you know, there is definitely a backlash against the health insurers out there. All right, so let's take a look here at what's going on in the markets today. We've got some earnings coming in from Oracle and a few others. As I said, the AI and nuclear stocks had a big profit-taking day yesterday. And, again, a lot of that comes from China. Let's see. Dow pulls back from record highs. NVIDIA loses ground. The momentum is definitely starting to cool off. Okay, when did the momentum start? When did the breakout start in the markets? Well, I mean, the day after Trump was elected, right?
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That's the newest leg, yeah.
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It took off. I got up to 1,200 B-plus or better stocks. That's out of 4,800 in my database. So roughly one-fourth of the stocks in my database were B-plus or better. And a lot of that was coming from the momentum side of the equation. Indicative of some breadth to the market. Today it's down to 700. So we've lost about 500 stocks. I still have over 400 A-plus momentum stocks. That's coming down from about 700. We're still at an elevated number. The market is still overheated. But that momentum is still there, although a lot of the air in the tires came out of the momentum sector yesterday. Like I say, that momentum ETF, which I use as a bellwether for that sector, was down 2% yesterday. Let's see. Here's some comments here on McDonald's. This location has rats in the kitchen that will make you sick, and your insurance isn't going to cover it, one user posted. Oh, my. This is very weird. The hostel where Mangione stayed also saw similar negative reviews.
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I mean, you know, at a certain point, you've got to kind of disconnect the person, right, from the industry or from the business, right? I mean, in this sense, I mean, that is what that business is about is delaying. You know, we all know and have been on the wrong side of this equation is, you know, they want to delay as long as they can because they make money. interest off of those dollars uh and also people will just give up yes that's what they want it's really the industry i mean you know you pin it on this you know one particular person in terms of uh you know being murdered is is you know is is outlandish But the industry certainly likely needs to look at itself and do something.
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Don't forget that there's a large industry on the other side of attorneys, every other billboard. Now, mostly that applies to auto insurance, but it also applies to health insurance. I have friends that are in the lawyer industry. And they go after... Well, yeah, if somebody in the hospital comes out worse than when they went in, there is an army now of attorneys and legal. So, I mean, the whole thing has gotten... pretty sticky these days with huge awards from juries going to people on one side.
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And patients are stuck in the middle. I mean, you've got big businesses, big money surrounding care in general, and obviously the patient itself usually ends up being the small person, ends up being the one that gets...
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Yeah, and the other person stuck in the middle is the guys like us who are paying the premiums. Well, and the physicians. Because the premiums have gone up, skyrocketed.
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Yeah, and physicians are waiting. I mean, not only... I talk about delays, right? It's not only delays to... Us as being insured and patients, the other delay in action that a lot of these insurers do is paying the actual service provider, the physician, and that creates another whole set of issues.
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We've got a new team of people coming in across the board. I mean, everybody from Dr. Oz to RFK to others that are going to try to clean up the industry a little bit. I talked to somebody who has a son who works for one of these accident lawyer companies in the Beverly Hills area. And he said they have a quota to meet, okay, of injured people to find. And we know where quotas went in our industry, right? Merrill Lynch and those, they had quotas. And they got a big hand slap and some big fines. for having quoted. So it cuts both ways, you know, I know. But anyways, we'll come back and talk about more companies in the news today. This is the Best Docs Now show. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Boy, the Chinese markets had a huge day yesterday. But, you know, they just never follow through. It was up like 8% or 9%, a lot of the usual suspects. It's usually on some kind of stimulus, and that's what it was. And now it's backing off today, but they're trying to get their economy going. They're doing all kinds of things. Nothing's working so far, but they did pledge to more proactive fiscal measures and looser monetary policy next year. which could revive economic growth and boost energy demand. But that's just all talk right now. We're not seeing it in the results of the Chinese economy. In the meantime, I've got to believe that... trump president trump elect is going to do something about this china's trade surplus surged to 97 billion dollars in november from 69 billion in the same period a year earlier so it's pretty obvious that's a huge increase that's a 50% increase is pretty obvious.
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Well, I guess they're picking up a little bit. Maybe that's showing some activity for China, right? We've been waiting for them to kind of take off since COVID and their failure to launch.
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Well, you know what he had to say to Trudeau up in Canada. You guys are ripping us off. We've got to narrow this trade gap. In other words, you, Canada, you've got to buy more of our products. Imagine what he's going to do to China, where you've got a $97 billion trade deficit, which is up 50% from the same month last year. So obviously this wasn't a high priority in the Biden administration because it exploded here. over the last 12 months. And who do you have as the new sheriff in town? None other than Peter Navarro, who wrote the book Death by China, who continues to eat our lunch as far as we're buying a heck of a lot more of their stuff than they are buying from us. That's the largest trade surplus in five months. And our exports to them slow. So anyways, that's a huge number. I couldn't help but notice that one here this morning. okay let's see we are we got Oracle we'll get to Oracle in a little bit Oracle is an AI wannabe and I think they are in that AI circle we're going to get GameStop today that's always interesting to see how much money they lost Adobe tomorrow Adobe is a pretty big player Costco on Thursday definitely a big player Who lost their contract with Costco? I said, oh, I know. Our friends at Procter & Gamble. No, Kimberly Clark lost the diaper contract with Costco. Oh, really? That's got to hurt. You know, what can I say? A doo-doo happens and Kimberly-Clark loses a big client. We like to kid about Kimberly-Clark because it's such a highly owned stock in the industry. You see it all the time. All the time. In the wire house accounts that transfer over to us, I think some people are at home listening to the show and they look at their portfolio and they see all these stocks we talk about. that the wirehouses love to own. But that's a big loss. We'll have to find out who got the contract. Maybe Costco is going to come up with their own Kirkland brand of diapers. I don't know. Applovency's worst day in two years. Well, you know what? Look, yesterday the biggest winners in the market this year were the biggest losers in the market. And I think Applovin was down about 12%, something like that. But the reason why, it didn't make the cut for the S&P 500. Instead, it was Apollo Group. and workday you know it's been my experience i see those stocks go into the s&p and the dow look at nvidia since it's gone into the dow it really cooled off and uh other stocks that went into the s&p we saw smith microcomputer smci go or super microcomputer uh and recently we saw this tpl texas pacific land which is one of the biggest winners in the It seems like they go in the S&P 500 and they don't take off. Instead, it seems to be kind of a headwind for them when they go into the S&P 500. But anyways, Applovin was not chosen. And Coinbase was another one that was a strong candidate. There's somebody out there, I suppose, that tracks this kind of thing. Who are the next stocks to go into the S&P 500? Instead, it was Apollo Group, which we own in our dividend and growth, and it was Workday, which we don't own. Well, I noticed a nice pop in Boeing yesterday. It seems to be putting in a long bottom, and it's up 5.1% today. I'm surprised that the Dow is down today. Boeing has finally restarted their 737 line. Boeing's up 5.2% right now. That's a huge move. What's holding the Dow down? Caterpillar, 3M, Merck, DuPont, Travelers, McDonald's, Amgen. Okay, plenty of them. But Boeing, that's a good chart on Boeing. Check out that chart. Here's this long sideways base. I mean, this was the NASDAQ back in January of 2023. But the NASDAQ had a lot more momentum building up, I'm sure, than Boeing does. But all of a sudden, Boeing has broke above that ceiling of $163 per share. That's a good lesson there in chart reading. That is a beautiful breakout. Now, we talk about the number four downtrend, and then it levels off like an airplane landing on the runway. into a number one sideways trend. And then think of these airplanes that do touch and goes, right? They land, they go flat for a long time on the runway, and then they take off from that runway. That's a breakout from a number one sideways trend. And if you just think about it from a logic point of view, where's the best place to buy a stock? Well, if it's been going sideways, sideways, sideways, and all of a sudden it breaks out above that. In theory, that could be the beginning of a brand new, you're at the beginning of a number two uptrend. So that's why that is one of my favorite stock patterns in the entire market. And if you're wanting to know what I'm talking about, look at the chart of Boeing today. It's just a beautiful, picture-perfect example of a fresh breakout.
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The problem was the other side of that equation that we look at was the fundamental side, and the fundamental side was the danger point.
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And let's not forget, a sideways trend can also break down and begin a new number four trend, which is also a catalyst to the downside. But right now, you have a catalyst to the upside in Boeing. When we come back, Lily's on the docket next to talk about. This is the Best Stocks Now show. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersenCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. Call out the instigator Because there's something in the air And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Lilly has just been kind of flat here recently. But it is the de facto leader in the weight loss drug with their ZepBound. I have noticed also that Novo Nordisk has got an improving chart. It finally bottomed out at 99%. Now it's back to 110. But Lilly did a lot today. They're going to hike their dividend by 15%. That's pretty big to $1.50 per share. And they approved a $15 billion share repurchase program. I would expect to see a bigger reaction from Lilly. after that. It's only up $1.63 today. It went down yesterday, too, along with those momentum stocks. Lilly was down about 2%, 3%. I think it was down $23 per share yesterday. The valuation still looks great on Lilly. It lacks the momentum side of the equation. The momentum, the relative strength right now is 43 on a scale of 1 to 99. And I'm not quite sure why. It's just kind of dead in the water. You still have that compounding issue. Maybe you've got RFK breathing down the neck of the big pharmas. A lot of the big pharmas have come to a standstill here because of that. So we'll see what goes on. Rocket Labs.
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And by definition, by the way, that RSI being in the mid-range of 100 is... is indicative of being slow. Right, exactly. Relative strength, think of it as average.
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Yes, and I'm sure if you looked at the Best Stocks Now app, you would probably see a momentum grade, I'm just going to look it up here real quickly, of C or C+, something like that. When it had, you know, it was a hot stock there for a long time. If I look at performance, that's under performance of Lilly. The momentum grade, the performance grade is A+. Okay, so that's long term. Right. I mean, over the last five years, 48% per year, market 18. The momentum grade right now is C+, on the Best Docs Now app. So, you know, look, sometimes it takes a catalyst. It takes a catalyst. I think that there's been nothing but good news on it recently. You had the big advantage that it has over Wagovi and Novo Nordisk. Zepbound works a lot better, bigger weight loss. uh... and uh... then you have this news of them doing a big stock so i'm not too worried about it that's that's one of those ones the term that comes to mind here is be patient you know you have to be if you're an investor in a company you're going to go through some ups and downs and what not uh... with these companies over time but uh... you know you're you're interested in that goal three to five years from now And you can't get all hot and bothered every time a stock sells off or has a big consolidation. Look at NVIDIA right now. NVIDIA is totally consolidating after it became the largest stock, the largest market cap. It passed Apple there for a while. And now the stock is definitely consolidating in a sideways number three trend. But at the same time, the valuation still looks very attractive. So it's got the same issue that Lilly has. NVIDIA's got a little better relative strength because it had a big run before it cooled off here. Its relative strength is still 95. It still remains one of the hottest stocks in the market, but since... The last couple of months, it's just kind of going sideways in a 130 to 150 range. Rocket Labs pushes ahead with the Suborbital Hypersonic Technology Initiative for the Department of Defense. Now, the reason that caught my eye, Rocket Labs, number one, I noticed I didn't have it in the app, so I put it in the app today. And number two, This is kind of where Russia, you know, Russia fired that missile back at Ukraine, and it was a hypersonic.
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Yeah, the ballistic.
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Yes, that flies under the radar, right, which is scary. And I listened to about a third of the interview. Tucker Carlson is in Russia. and he interviewed lavrov who's been around he's like uh... putin's right hand man for many years like twenty thirty years And Carlson was talking about the possibilities, one of the possibilities of a nuclear war. I thought, you know, maybe I'll give this a listen. And, you know, Russia's known to detain people, but apparently Tucker Carlson, he's interviewed Putin once, and now he's back interviewing Lavrov. And there were a couple things that really surprised me in that interview. Number one, Lavrov says that Biden has not talked to Putin at all. I mean, which is kind of silly. You know, how do you resolve issues by not talking? That's the worst thing you can do. I'm not talking to you. And anyways, I mean, it seems like Trump at least has a dialogue and Putin has a respect for Trump. But to not even have a conversation about Ukraine seems kind of strange to me. And the second thing that I really woke up and said, what did he just say? He said, you know, you people in America don't take this lightly. Our threat, when America flies in these hypersonic missiles into Russia's midland, we mean it. We're going to strike back with something fierce and don't rule out nuclear. So he said this is not an idle threat. This is real. It just seems reckless to me for Biden to amp this up in the last couple months of his presidency. Seems kind of weird to me that he would do that and put the country at risk of a nuclear, you know, a smaller type of nuclear weapon. Taiwan semiconductor November revenue surges 34%. Well, okay, there's no trouble there in Taiwan with their business. Taiwan Semiconductor, TSM, the stock has had a good year. It's up 91% since the beginning of the year. And we currently don't own it. I worry about the political situation there in Taiwan. You know, now you've got China after a couple Taiwanese companies, NVIDIA, and I think I saw AMD also in there. They do not like Taiwanese. They don't like Taiwan CEOs like Jensen Wang and Lisa Su of AMD, who are cousins. But things seem to be going well at Taiwan Semiconductor, even though that stock, too, it's flattened out. The chip stocks have totally flattened out. So if you say, what's wrong with NVIDIA? Well, you know what? Sometimes you have to look. It's the entire sector. The entire semiconductor sector is consolidating right now after leading the way. Consider that Taiwan Semi is up 81% this year, but it's really cooled off. It's cooled off since mid-October, and I think it's all about the China effect with them being denied access to a lot of these chips. Let's see. Uber Eats teams up with McDonald's. Well, that's pretty big. That's in Canada. Uber has been another stock that's been very soft here recently. Part of that is some cities, Miami gave an exclusive to Google, their Waymo, for the autonomous cars. It seems to be about autonomous cars seems to be the issue with Uber. But, man, Uber's got a lot of, they have a lot of things going for them, including Uber Eats. which continues to grow. And by the way, DoorDash has been hitting new highs here recently. That's one of the strongest stocks in the entire market. So I think Uber is an undervalued stock right now. And I think it probably has to do a lot with the competition coming in from the other autonomous Tesla, the one from Waymo, and now Amazon is in on the act. So anyways, I still like Uber. I think it's a good value. We'll see. We need a catalyst there. Vanguard forms a new advice and wealth management unit. Now, here's a company that is notorious. Their whole thing is indexes, buying indexes. Although they have come around a little bit more to active investments since John Bogle passed away. But he built that company on indexes. Why even try to beat the indexes? They beat 80% of all money managers out there. Well, now they're going to go into the advice and wealth management business. In addition to just supplying, and I'm sure they will advise you to use indexes, Vanguard indexes in your plan, right, Perry? We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of the Best Stocks Now show. Best performing ETFs year to date. You know, I was interviewed several weeks ago by Granite Shares ETFs, the CEO. and by a guy that is on Seeking Alpha, and I've gotten to know him a little bit on X, Twitter, and I went on their show. You can find it on X somewhere, I guess. I'm trying to think of the name of the guy. who interviewed me, I can't think of his name right now, Granite Shares has the number one performing ETF year to date. And they take an interesting approach, Barry. The number one ETF is NVDL. Okay, why is that interesting? What's unique about it? They own one stock. And it's double. It's two times NVIDIA. So it's a 408% year to date. The number two ranked.
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The power of leverage.
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Yes, the number two ranked is Direction Shares. They have an NVIDIA bull two times. Now, I'm surprised that you can actually get permission for an ETF that is one stock. I mean, that totally defies the whole concept behind exchange-traded funds. But it's basically you're buying NVIDIA on margin, 2 to 1. The number 3 ranked ETF is Granite Shares 2 times Meta. Okay, it's up 143% so far this year. And I bring this up, I received an invitation yesterday saying, to go to a bell-ringing ceremony in New York in about two weeks, maybe one week or so. Have you ever been up there to the New York Stock Exchange?
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Yeah, I haven't been to the exchange, certainly haven't rang the bell, and haven't been there during the Christmas season either.
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No. Well, I'm afraid I'll get my bell rung up there in New York. I don't know. New York's not the same place that I used to visit. But I'm thinking about it. to the dow which is a big deal to go to the opening bell ceremony to the dow but i'll let you know and maybe you can look for me there uh my wife and i might head up there for that thing from granite shares i appreciate them inviting me and who knows Then just a few others. You've got a CoinShare ETF. I mean, ETFs, there's all kinds. Bitcoin and Ether, that's up 107%. Bitcoin Futures up 123%. Tesla, how about Tesla? I think it's a two-to-one ETF up 127%. So, you know, and I've even looked into, I have an acquaintance that puts ETFs together. And he asked me for some ideas that I might have. And he says, if you have a good idea, we'll put together an ETF for you. And my idea back then was the EVs, the technology, autonomous, batteries, everything, the car revolution taking place. I never did do it. But it might be interesting. If I were going to do an ETF today, it would be on our portfolios, Barry, because it would give them access. to the general public, right?
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And then you could purchase in whatever, in that case, you could purchase in whatever increment that you wanted. I mean, usually, you know, it's an easier starting point, right?
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Now, one other story I want to mention here in the last few minutes. I looked into an ETF. I asked you about it. It was VYXZ, right? It was... It's democratizing investments in venture capital. And the ETF allow, in that ETF is exposure to all of these startups, the best. The biggest and the best. But here's the problem. Okay, there's a thing called net asset value. Okay, so when you buy, this is a closed-end fund. So this especially comes to the fore with closed-end. You're paying twice what the people on the street are paying for it. I mean, the big venture capitalists are paying for it. Because there's so much demand for this ETF that you're paying double. For these startups, so you've got this huge premium that you've got to overcome. That makes it a terrible investment.
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And I guess you do get some liquidity, given that it's in an ETF, but still that can also end up being an issue. Well, you can trade it, right? If everybody runs for the door in times of crisis, that liquidity could potentially dry up, right? Because they wouldn't be able to generate the needed liquidity.
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So let's just say that one of their stocks is OpenAI in that venture capital ETF. Well, let's say OpenAI is trading at a valuation of... uh... uh... fifty billion well you're paying a hundred book that for that inside that he t f or that's not an etf it's a closed and fun so whenever you buy a closed and fun you want to look at where it trades the sum of the to ask me and the bid ask bread matters because you could be paying at a premium in this sense you're paying a a a significant premium over net asset value would be like if a mutual funded if if all the stock actual fun were worth
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you know, a million bucks and you're paying two million bucks for it or whatever.
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Okay, now I want to close with this one. This is brought to you by our Jeff Webster, one of my vice presidents here at Gunderson Capital Management. He forwarded me an article saying, hey, you've got someone out there calling this the new, the next NVIDIA. It's called Rigetti Computing. And we actually brought it to your attention not too long ago. RGTI I remember there was a picture on the Yankees, Dave Rigetti. I think it's spelled the same way. I'm sure there's no link. But Rigetti computing is up 27% today. I did add it to my app a few weeks ago. But there's one to put on your watch list, RGTI. I haven't read the article yet. I just saw the headline today. about some big firm out there saying this is the next NVIDIA. Everybody's driving in their cars going, what is it? Well, look, it's just an article out there. I'm bringing it to your attention. But it has gone to a billion dollars very quickly since their IPO, RGTI Rigetti Computing. Well, the four-week trial is still on, GundersenCapital.com. And if you want to set up an appointment with us, get your portfolios positioned right before the beginning of a new year. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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Yeah, it's a little icy out there. So allow a little extra time for your travels today until the sun comes out and melts some of this ice out there. But let's get into it. We've got a great show planned for you again today. Check out the website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. Thank you to all of you who support us. And we're on live 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 in the evening. And that is on all KLZ 560 platforms. which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. As you know, on this show, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives via force. Force can be a weapon, but it can be policy, an unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. The World Economic Forum's agenda, and all this is connected. The globalist elites, the United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, this Colorado governor, the World Health Organization. Land use codes and zoning regulations, force fees. And we're seeing now, as we talked to Joshua Lowenstein, like monument designations, conservation easements. I guess I need to add all that in there. Let me make a note here. Because the list is going on and on, and we need to reduce that list. Remember, if something is a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it on the show. We focus on the issues, and we will mention the people that are pushing these issues. But we're working really hard to stay out of all the personalities and all the kind of eighth-grade girl stuff that can happen. And so we're really trying diligently on that. Our word of the day, I've been wanting to use this word for several days, is ostensible. And it is appearing or claiming to be one thing when it is really something else. And I'm thinking in particular, those that are trying to, now it's incrementally, take away our Second Amendment rights, our rights to protect ourselves and our families against bad actors. And ostensibly, they are trying to limit our access to firearms and ammunition, ostensibly, to have safer communities but what it's really about is disarming the population so ostensible is o-s-t-e-n-s-i-b-l-e and you should be able to use that in a sentence today That is your challenge. Our quote today is from Henry Hazlitt because producer Joe and Susan Kochevar and I will be doing a roundtable on his book, Economics in One Lesson. And Yvonne Paez might... weigh in on that as well. And Luke is under the weather. Producer Luke is under the weather, so he will not be joining us today. So Henry Hazlitt was born in 1894. He died in 1993. He was an American journalist, economist, and philosopher known for his advocacy of free markets and classical liberal principles. Over a career spanning more than seven decades, Hazlitt wrote extensively on business, economics, and public policy for prominent publications, including the Wall Street Journal, Hold on here. The Nation, the American Mercury, Newsweek, and the New York Times. And he's best known for his 1946 book, Economics in One Lesson, a work grounded in the Austrian school of economics and the importance of individual liberty and economic decision making. And this is his quote. The real solution to the problem of poverty consists in finding how to increase the employment and earning power of the poor. It's pretty much common sense, I would say. But sometimes there's not a lot of common sense in public policy. Because many times it's more about control. The show does come to you because of our sponsors. One of those great sponsors is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great place to get together with friends for lunch or a happy hour. And how I got to know them, it is a very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and those pesky PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that try to control things. So check that whole story out at my website. I've got a lot of this day in history, and so I will probably pepper some of these things in throughout the show. But the first thing on this day in history, and I looked to this website on this day, in 1520, Martin Luther publicly burns the Popple Edict, demanding that he recant. And his speech at the Diet of Worms, I think that's how you say it, is also known as the Here I Stand speech, is considered one of the greatest pieces of oratory in world history. It was given in response to the council's questions on whether Luther would stand by his doctrine or recant. His refusal to recant is a classic defense of personal freedom. And he ended the speech with this. He says, here I stand. I cannot do otherwise. God help me. Amen. So that was in 1520. In 1672, New York Governor Lovelace announces the monthly mail service between New York and Boston. monthly mail service. Here, with email, we can have instant communication. And so I thought that was pretty amazing. In 1864, General Sherman's armies reach Savannah and a 12-day siege begins. And in 1869, Women's suffrage or the right to vote was granted in the Wyoming Territory, was the first in the United States. And then in 1884, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain is first published in the UK and Canada and was published in the U.S. in 1885 due to a printing error. Some of the headlines, and this is a big one. And that is that Daniel Penny, you know him, the Marine veteran, was acquitted of criminally negligent homicide after a more serious manslaughter charge was dismissed. And this is from CNN. And it says a Manhattan jury found Daniel Penny not guilty Monday in the death of Jordan Neely, Jr. not guilty of criminally negligent homicide, in the death of Jordan Neely on a New York City subway last year. Penny also previously faced a more serious second-degree manslaughter charge, but Judge Maxwell Wiley dismissed it Friday at the request of prosecutors after jurors twice told the court they could not come to a verdict on the count. The article goes on to say, Penny, who is a 26-year-old former Marine, would have faced up to four years in prison for a criminally negligent homicide conviction and up to 15 years for the manslaughter conviction. There was applause in the courtroom as the not guilty verdict was read aloud. Penny locked eyes with the members of the jury that acquitted him, nodding in thanks. A smile was visible on his face. And it went on to say that for over 18 months, our client has lived under the weight of a criminal indictment, all the while guilty. guilty of nothing more than trying to protect his fellow New Yorkers from a psychotic madman with a history of violence, Penny's attorney, Tom Kinoff, said in a statement Monday. Today, the Manhattan jury has spoken, and the misguided prosecution of Daniel Penny will go down as a sad chapter in the history of New York criminal justice. Neely's father, who was present in the courtroom for the verdict, was escorted out of the courtroom after an audible outburst of expletives. My friends, as I have mentioned before on the show, I used to go back to New York regularly because I was in the ladies' clothing business. And it can be very scary on a subway. And to have someone such as Jordan Neely, who apparently was making threats and here described as a madman, would be quite scary. And my understanding is he was threatening others as well. And so instead of Daniel Penny being a criminal, he was a hero. And the people that he protected, I saw on the news last night that there were those that were trying to make this all out about race. And quite frankly, it was not about race. It was about one human protecting other human beings from a very dangerous threat. human being and preventing that one from hurting everybody else. So Daniel Penny is a hero, and it is really unconscionable that they would even bring any charges. He should have received a medal instead of a... Whoops, sorry, I thought I lost you for just a minute. You should have received a medal instead of being charged for a crime. A couple of other things. As Pam Long had mentioned last week, this is a travesty that at Fort Carson here in Colorado, for our soldiers, the food is scarce and the quality is crummy. And so Pam Long has put together a list of people to contact regarding remedying this problem. And we will be sending out an email with that complete list on Thursday. So stay tuned for that. And then Josh Lowenstein was on yesterday regarding this very subtle land grab, the link issue. designation habitat which would be millions of acres and that information on who to contact he emailed that over and we will include that in the summary that Zach will publish a little bit later today so you can go to my website click on the image for today's show the summary will come up and all of that information will will be available and next thing I wanted to mention was I Oh, OK. So, OK, we've got a few little technical difficulties, but I want to get to Rebecca Kelty. She is has been is no longer a candidate for House District. And Rebecca, I'm drawing a blank. Which House District is it?
SPEAKER 1 :
16?
SPEAKER 18 :
House District 16. OK, this was a real nail biter, but the recount is complete. So tell us what happened.
SPEAKER 07 :
Sure. Good morning. And yes, it is complete. Thank goodness. It came down to a recount. After the recount, it came down to the campus board decision on some of the ballots that had been assigned to my opponent, which shouldn't have been because they were overvotes or bad votes where someone crossed it off. And for some reason, the machine gave it to her. And once they took those votes away, I came out ahead as the winner. So, yay.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. So the election has been certified?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, election's been certified. The Secretary of State has announced it. We have swearing in will be on January 8th.
SPEAKER 18 :
I'm sorry, I missed you there on that, Rebecca. So it's certified, and so what's the next steps?
SPEAKER 07 :
The next steps will be, well, it's been certified. The next steps really will just be the swearing in, and that happens on January 8th.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, and that's the first day that the state legislature convenes, correct? Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct. Yeah. There's one more orientation for the newbies. And on that Monday and then the 8th, we get sworn in and then we get to business. We start trying to make things better for Colorado.
SPEAKER 18 :
OK, well, this race is very important because this helped prevent a super majority in the House of Representatives here in Colorado, because if they had that super majority, they could ram through just about anything they wanted to. Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct. They still have the majority, so they still have the upper hand. But this way, you know, they're not able to just we have a better voice at the table. You know, they have to talk to us more. You know, we have to negotiate on bills and stuff like that, although they still do. They have the majority. So really, Republicans in the state of Colorado have more work to do. Oh, my gosh. This is not the end. This is the beginning, and we're chipping away, and we need to get to work now.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, we really do. And, Rebecca, a volunteer gig that I have is I'm president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And it's an all-volunteer group that has, since 1976, watched legislation that is scheduled for hearings at the statehouse and then reviewed that legislation and taken positions, yes, no, or do not rate. And I need to mention this great group. They're all volunteers. And when you see them, tell them thank you. That's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honiger, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, and Mary Jansen. And we hope as we – then what we'll do is we will take a – we'll create an e-mail. with those positions. And we will send that to all of the legislators and the governor and our members. And we hope that that will be a tool that will be helpful in your toolbox and other legislators' toolboxes as you're looking at this legislation that's being proposed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Perfect. No, that's great, because I think a lot of us need a little bit of a tool to be able to use to gauge things, too, because you get slammed with so many bills. Last year, I think they had over 700. I know. It's an insane amount of bills. It's a firehose type of situation, and I think something like that would definitely help.
SPEAKER 18 :
And so we, again, hope that'll be a great tool in your toolbox. What's the first thing that you want to accomplish when you get down to the statehouse, Rebecca Kelty?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I do know one of the things I would like to go back and do, and it seems like they never seem to do it, is to go back and look at some of these older bills, you know, that they passed in the last one to five, ten years. and see what they've broken. You know, they never go back and try to fix the things that they've broken. They just slam through new bills and new bills. And Colorado's not that broken, you know what I mean? But some of the bills that they have passed have broken us. So let's go back and see what you've broken and try to fix some of those things before we just start, you know, spending more money and spending more money. Let's start cutting some of that.
SPEAKER 18 :
And I did see a headline that state agencies have more cash than they're supposed to. So government, when government has more cash than it's supposed to, that means that they've taken it from the people. And so we need to lower taxes and lower regulations. I'm hearing of different bills that might be coming down the pike this next legislative session that would be very onerous to personal freedom. and our rights under the Bill of Rights. So I know you're going to have your hands full, but you've got some other great people to work with as well down at the Statehouse.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's a good thing I carry the Constitution with me pretty much everywhere I go. So we need to stick to that. If we stick to that, we can't go wrong. And our personal freedoms and our money, let's keep it in our pockets. There's no better situation than allowing the people to have the money in their pockets to where they choose where they want to spend it. So governments are far too large, and that needs to be fixed.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I'm very excited about you winning this election. This is really great for House District 16, which encompasses a large portion of Colorado Springs, yes?
SPEAKER 07 :
It does. And you know what? I got to say, this election was an all hands on deck election. It wasn't just a Rebecca Kelsey win. This was an entire. the state of Colorado win, and that right there should motivate everyone, every Republican in the state, that we do have a voice, we have a choice, and when we put our heads together, we can win, and that's exactly what happened here.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, that is so exciting, so I congratulate you, Rebecca Kelty, and I know you were diligent in this campaign, and way to go. Congratulations.
SPEAKER 07 :
Kim, thank you. And thank you for what you do.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. And again, Rebecca Kelty, much congratulations to her for winning that House District 16 race. And I wanted to mention another headline here. This is from the Center Square. It says, the deficit is soaring as Biden heads out the door. And As they are spending all of this money and just passing it out to cronies, basically creating money, what that does is it creates more and more inflation, which means that the dollar in your pocket is worth less. And so it's really a silent thief. So this is from the Center Square, and it said the latest federal numbers show the U.S. deficit is soaring as President Joe Biden heads out of office. The U.S. Congressional Budget Office released its monthly budget review on Monday, which showed that in the first two months of this fiscal year, the federal government has run up a deficit of $622 billion. That amount is $242 billion more than the deficit recorded during the same period last fiscal year, the CBO said in its report. That figure means the deficit is nearly 40 percent higher than this time last year. The most alarming turkey in November was the federal government's inability to live within its means, Maya McGinnis, president of the Committee for Responsible Federal Budget, said in a statement. We are only two months into the fiscal year and we have already borrowed a staggering $622 billion with $365 billion in the month of November alone. Deficits never surpassed $1 trillion before the COVID-19 pandemic. Since then, they remain well above $1 trillion and for this next fiscal year are well beyond the pace to surpass $1 trillion. My friends, this is not sustainable. The deficit last fiscal year was $1.8 trillion. Billionaire Elon Musk is now an advisor to President-elect Donald Trump, lamented that the debt, which is about 36 trillion on his X feed on Monday. My friends, we've got to get a handle on this. This is not OK. OK, we're having some technical difficulties today, so I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do. So I think I'll go to another headline here. And let's see the next thing. Oh, I would watch this part of this interview last night on one of the news shows. This is from the Western Journal. And it says the NBC anchors caught deceptively altering the 14th Amendment in the Trump interview. It says NBC Meet the Press host Kristen Welker left out a key portion of the 14th Amendment when she challenged President-elect Donald Trump on his plans to end so-called birthright citizenship by executive order. In the interview, which aired Sunday, Welker asked, you promised to end birthright citizenship on day one. Is that still your plan? Yes, absolutely, Trump responded. The 14th Amendment, though, says all persons born in the United States are citizens. Can you get around the 14th Amendment with an executive action? Welker followed up. Currently, when illegal aliens have children in the country, federal policy has been to recognize them as U.S. citizens. And, well, we're going to have to get a change, Trump answered to Welker. And she again questioned if Trump would do so through executive action. Well, if we can through executive action, Trump said. But in his Agenda 47 plan put out last year, Trump explained that he would issue an executive order on the subject that will explain the clear meaning of the 14th Amendment, that U.S. citizenship extends only to those both born in and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. So my understanding after conversations with Rob Nadelson and other reading is that in the 14th Amendment, the allegiance... of the country that the parents have. So if someone is here, either legally or illegally, but their allegiance is to another country and their children are born here, then because of that, their children really are not citizens. So this is going to be super interesting as we see what happens with that. And then another headline here that was, I thought, pretty super interesting, and that is that federal employees are scrubbing their social media accounts of any negative posts about Donald Trump as they scramble to save their jobs. Hey, if you feel strongly about something, you should have the guts to stand behind it. And it says thousands of civil servants are taking steps to protect themselves from plans to slash the number of federal employees promised by Trump and his allies, according to The Washington Post. Some federal employees are removing posts from X and Facebook, with one official who testified in Trump's first impeachment inquiry considering filing retirement papers as others are taking steps to move to possibly safer agencies. Recruiting firms in the nation's capital have seen an increase in business from those looking for work in the private sector. Some agencies have taken action to reclassify some jobs with titles that go against the Trump agenda, such as those including diversity, equity and inclusion, environmental justice, and those looking to address the climate crisis. Some civil servants are taking out liability insurance for the first time in case they need attorneys if they're demoted or fired. Departing Biden administration appointees are working with labor unions to extend collective bargaining agreements securing benefits before the second Trump administration can take action to remove them. So it looks like they're trying to sabotage a lot of the Trump agenda. And then, again, these people, if you felt strongly enough to make a statement on it, then I think that you need to stand behind it. And, okay, I think that we're going to go to break. And so I did want to mention the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. Give them a call at 303-795 for a complimentary appointment. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I am helping you with some gift ideas for this holiday season. And a great gift would be to give the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado, on the beautiful Riverwalk. It is a lovely gift of quotes from many of our Medal of Honor recipients that will inspire you and help you to be able to sit and reflect this holiday season as well. So it is just a great gift. You can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Danielle Jarensky, and she is a city councilwoman in Aurora. And she has been very concerned about the safety of the citizens of Aurora. And she was really the one that shed some light on some of these Venezuelan gangs that were misbehaving, we might say. So, Danielle Jarensky, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me, Kim. This has been ongoing and, of course, it received national attention when now President-elect Trump was on the campaign trail and came to Aurora to talk about Operation Aurora. And you set this up. I think most people know this, but you'd been contacted by... some residents in Aurora that were very concerned about gangs that had taken over their apartment building, and you realized that you needed to help those people get out of that dangerous situation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's right. Well, this all really started back in June when it was the Venezuelan presidential election. And all of a sudden, about 5,000, it's believed that all or most of them were Venezuelans, descended upon an area in Aurora, a Target shopping center at Mississippi and Havana that ended up spilling out into the streets and other parts of the shopping area and the intersection. And I, for the life of me, could not figure out how 5,000 people could gather in under an hour without any sort of law enforcement detection. And APD at that time wanted to paint this as just a peaceful gathering. They just want to celebrate the outcome of the Venezuelan election. But it wasn't Multiple crimes committed, people shooting guns off in the air, a police car shot at, a Target employee assaulted. All of the liquor and alcohol in Target was completely ransacked and taken. The McDonald's employees fled the McDonald's because the McDonald's was essentially taken over for the bathroom. This is when I started making a lot of noise. And it was after I started making this noise that police officers started coming to me directly and saying, Danielle, you've got to know the truth behind this. This isn't just how many of them are here. You need to know who's here. And that's when I was told about Trendy Aragua, this notorious Venezuelan prison gang. And it just blew my mind. And officers started telling me about the calls that they were going on. And they started specifically telling me about these three apartment complexes. I rolled that back. I'm the chair of the Public Safety Committee for the city of Aurora. I went to my committee meetings and I started asking questions. And when I started asking questions, all I was told about was code enforcement violations and a slumlord. That's all I was told about. I tried to be the voice for the officers and tell them, listen, I have officers coming to me. telling me that this is what's going on. These are the calls they're going to. They can't respond to these apartment complexes without three or four officers and an armored vehicle. That doesn't sound like code enforcement violations to me. Well, the rhetoric continued, the denying, the gaslighting, the downplaying continued. One day I get a phone call from Vicente Arenas, Fox 31 News reporter. He said, Danielle, you've got to come meet me. I said, oh, you know, what's his story? And he said, you've got to come meet me. So I go and I meet him, and he says, hey, listen, I've listened to how vocal you're becoming about this situation in Aurora with the Zender's Leland prison gang and everything going on in these apartment complexes. He said, I've got to show you something. He showed me that viral video. He showed it to me. He already had it. The reason he already had it is because it's going to be interesting. Edward Romero were so fed up, so tired of calling 911 hundreds of times and nobody coming, they started reaching out to news tip lines, to local media news desk tip lines. And Vicente Arenas followed up on it. So he said to Vicente, he said, why are you coming to me? And he said, well, Danielle, he said, I know you'll do something about it. I know you'll do something about it. I said, oh, my God, Vicente. So he and I made an agreement that he would not release that video footage until I had a fair chance to get the Romeros out into safety. I ended up having to get another gentleman out as well. Went in, moved them out. The viral video footage came out. The story about the Romeros came out. The rest has kind of been history unfolding before our very eyes, but it did go very viral, reached the attention of President Trump, and he came to Aurora and met with me, as well as Tom Holman and Congressman from Texas, Chip Roy.
SPEAKER 18 :
Wow. So that all happened in October, right? And Trump is taking this very seriously. What was that conversation like with all of them? And were you the only people in the room or were there other people in there as well?
SPEAKER 04 :
When I spoke with President Trump, for the most part, it was just a one-on-one between he and I. Cindy Romero did come in towards the end just to tell him a part of her story. and uh with tom with tom holman and chip roy uh they came into aurora and we kind of had an aurora round table warren bobert was at the table one of my colleagues cindy romero was at the table and we had a conversation about this um they of course wanted to make it more national i naturally wanted to make it all about aurora um but the conversation was great and it was much needed. I did speak to Tom Holman one on one. I did speak to Chip Roy one on one. Chip Roy, when he was in town, he and I did a national Fox News interview together side by side. So, you know, conversations are happening. And as you can see, you know, as far as I'm concerned, President Trump's term started the day after he was elected. So his term started last month, as far as I'm concerned, with everything you're seeing going on.
SPEAKER 18 :
So how is it that Aurora got all of these Venezuela gang members? Is it because Denver is a sanctuary city? But how did Aurora get the gang members?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, it really, it does center around Denver being a sanctuary city. And as you saw, right, as we saw, and you can't really fault Governor Abbott. All of these folks coming across the border, he was not allowed to secure the border. We had wide open borders. Well, it was just too many. So Governor Abbott started busing them to New York, Chicago, Denver, all of these major cities across the country that came out and said, we love migrants, we support migrants, migrants are welcome here. So Governor Abbott said, here you go, and started sending them by the busload. Well, what Denver turned around and did is they funneled a whole— The city of Denver and the state of Colorado, because the state of Colorado created what is called an office of newcomers, state office of newcomers, something along those lines. And all of this money was funneled into NGOs. These NGOs then took it upon themselves to start housing and putting these folks in apartment complexes themselves. in Aurora. There is some gray area. You know, you see, I don't know if you've seen, but I'm really going after these NGOs. I'm going after Denver. I'm going after the state. We have multiple core requests out because I want to track this down because it is my understanding that there's really a lot of misclarity here. These apartment complexes were told that these folks had jobs. They were told, you know, different things and the help that they were going to be provided. When, in fact, that wasn't the case. As soon as the NGOs placed these people, they essentially bailed. But, yes, it is out of the city of Denver. It is nonprofits, NGOs out of the city of Denver that placed all of these folks in Aurora.
SPEAKER 18 :
Can you name some of these NGOs, these non-governmental agencies that are being paid government money to do the bidding of the government?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the main one is Vive Wellness. That is the main one. Folks have some eyes on Village Exchange. Not sure about that one yet. Not sure about that one yet. Vive Wellness. And the other one, there's a second one. I've spoken all about it, and now I'm drawing a blank. There are two. There are two. Oh, Papagayo. Papagayo. Papagayo and Vive Wellness.
SPEAKER 18 :
And so they're receiving government grant money to locate these people in Aurora, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I don't know that they still are, but this is what they did. I don't know if they're still receiving funding. I don't know if they're still placing people. My guess, Kim, is nobody wants to come anywhere near Aurora at this point anymore, with me lurking over here.
SPEAKER 18 :
When you say no one wants to come, you mean any of the Venezuelan gangs or placing migrants in Aurora, right? Is that what you mean?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, any of the NGOs, Mike Johnson, Jared Polis, any of the Venezuelan migrants. I don't think anybody wants to come near Aurora and pick that fight.
SPEAKER 18 :
So one voice, one woman, one voice. It is amazing what you have done here. What about I know that when this was all breaking, that Jared Polis and the governor of Colorado, the governor or the mayor of Aurora, they were trying to downplay this because it does give Aurora a black eye. And so tell us where that where where's all that now?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you know, everybody right now, I mean, everybody's become pretty quiet. You don't hear the governor trying to deny it in the way that he was. But he did. He came out ferociously. He said that this was a feature, I quote, a feature of my imagination. And Mayor Kaufman, it's unfortunate that he did flip-flop several times.
SPEAKER 18 :
And so you said that, Jared Polis said that this whole Venezuelan gang thing was a feature of your imagination. And then Mayor Kaufman, what was his reaction?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Mayor Kaufman, you know, it's gone back and forth with him a couple times, which is unfortunate. He has flip-flopped his stance. But he knows the truth. He ultimately knows the truth. I think he's just trying to figure out, you know, right now how to do some damage control in the city of Aurora because it has brought a black eye. But I can tell you, I refuse to remain silent for an image. I refuse. Not while people are suffering and being raped and sex trafficked and murdered, fingers chopped off and people kidnapped and... I refuse to remain silent to protect an image.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, so things are changing in Aurora as far as getting this whole thing, I think, cleaned up, if you will. So what about Trump's Operation Aurora? What is that exactly? I imagine it's the national program, but being the great marketer that he is, since this Venezuelan gang thing really, the story broke in Aurora, then he's calling it Operation Aurora. So tell us about that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, can I, and I'm going to remain consistent here, I'm not going to comment on that a whole lot because I don't know. I don't know. I had a conversation with President Trump. I've had a conversation with Tom Holman. But I don't know what Operation Aurora really means. I believe help is on the way. I believe that wholeheartedly. But I'm not going to really comment on that. how operation is going to play out because I don't know.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. Fair enough. Now, you're the chair of, like, the Public Safety Committee or something there in Aurora, right? Correct. Okay. Are you getting – well, I saw a report that at the November meeting you said that things are going to be changing in Aurora regarding these Venezuelan gang members coming into Aurora. Are you getting support, pushback from your fellow council members, the chief of police? What's the temperature of everybody there?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I'd say it's about 50-50, to be honest with you. You know, I'd say it's about 50-50 because, no, it's really we're trying to expect the unknown. And so nobody really knows what any of this means. But, you know, what is concerning to me is it seems like I am the only one who has any sort of contact and have had any contact with the incoming administration. You know, it is no secret that Mike Kaufman and President Trump are got into a big fight a few years back. They both came out against each other publicly. So it's unfortunate that the mayor isn't at the helm of all of this. And I'm trying to deal with it. But, you know, there is support there. But like I said, right now, we're all just kind of in a mode where we're just batting down the hatches and waiting to see what's coming.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think that you've said with you being so vocal about this, and I think I saw a headline that they're going to close these apartment buildings that had been overtaken by Venezuelan gangs. That doesn't seem like the answer. Are they going to close them, clean them up, and then the owner can re-rent them? Do you know about that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, this has been a big old game, Kim. This all started in July. The city went in and abated, shut down Nome. The Nome Street Apartments, due to living conditions, this was the whole slumlord narrative. Unfortunately, the gang was not addressed at that time, so they went and shoved themselves further into the Whispering Pine Complex and the Dallas Street Apartments. Some of the ownership agreed to turn the Whispering Pines over to court receivership, so it is back in control of the bank. I pretty much, working with the receiver, have Whispering Pines under control and in a much more peaceful environment. The Dallas Street Apartments, it's six different buildings. I'm sorry, five different buildings owned by different folks. One of the buildings went into court receivership, same court receivership that Whispering Pines is under. The other five buildings, the owners are refusing to turn it over to the bank, turn it over to court receivership. So the city has decided for those other four buildings to criminally nuisance them, and the property owners are not pushing back on that because they want the building shut down. They want these people thrown out so that they can regain their property.
SPEAKER 18 :
So forcing these apartment building owners into receivership means that they would lose their property, yes? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. Well, correct. For the time being, I don't know what the deals are on the other side. Once these complexes get under control, I don't know. I don't know. And I and I again, I'm going to remain consistent on that. That's not something that I will comment on. But, you know, the city. The city is going to go ahead and shut down these remaining four buildings. I don't know where all of these people have gone. The migrants have pretty much well packed themselves into these remaining buildings. So we're going to have nonprofits come out screaming and yelling. You know, this is going to be really, really something, really something. And you know what? I am just on the countdown six weeks from today, President Trump's first second. And we will see. We will all learn together what this means.
SPEAKER 18 :
And one other thing regarding the migrants, these Venezuelan gangs, my understanding is typically they prey upon people that are here illegally because that have come here, well, that are not part of the Venezuelan gang. Let's just put it that way. So they prey on those that are here that don't want to be doing additional crimes other than coming across the border illegally. But they prey upon these people. And these people, since they are here illegally, are reticent to report it. And so it makes it very, very dangerous. It's not compassionate to bring people here illegally and put them into this position.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it's terrible. It started out as they were preying upon Americans, kicking their doors and throwing them out of their apartment complexes, beating up the staff, holding them at gunpoint, telling them they wouldn't return at work. But then once they gained control of the complexes, you're right. They very quickly turned their crime spree onto other migrants that are here also illegally because a couple reasons. They're easier targets, and they're very scared. They are very scared to call 911 themselves.
SPEAKER 18 :
Wow. Okay, Danielle Cherinsky, we have just about a minute left. Throughout history, there are people that saw a wrong and they stepped forward to make it right. And that is, I think, really the human spirit. And I imagine you never thought that you would be in this position, but you're doing the right thing. And as my dad always said to me, there's never a wrong time to do the right thing. So what's your final thoughts you'd like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. All I can say through all of this is through all of the attacks, the smear stories, the lying, the gaslighting, the denying, trying to make me out to be a crazy person. I have no regrets. I have no regrets. I've met these people personally. I've held them. You know, we've cried together. Their stories are real. This goes so far behind. And Kim, on your show, I want to say this specifically to Republicans. I am so far beyond their status. I am so far beyond their status because I have witnessed actual human suffering, actual human suffering. That is where we are at. We are not at whether these people are here illegally or not illegally. We have allowed actual real third world countries suffering on American soil. And everyone sat by, everyone sat by and did nothing. So I went in alone. But I'll tell you, I have no regrets, Kim, and that's what I have to leave you with.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, my gosh. Danielle Jurinsky, I just got chills on that. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this. This is so important. And, Danielle Jurinsky, I've got to think that from a public policy standpoint, there are much bigger things on the horizon for you. So thank you. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Kim. Have a wonderful day.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we've had a morning of technical difficulties, and so thank you for hanging with us here. I wanted to make sure that I say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is because of these sponsors that are independent voices on the air. But we've had technical difficulties. I tell you, Joe, you've got such a great attitude. Even when everything is falling apart, you don't fall apart. And I so appreciate that about you. It's my pleasure.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was always just taught that things are going to go worse if you just panic.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, it's been a morning. We have four stations here at Crawford Broadcasting out of these studios, and all of them went down. So Amanda was working diligently. Apparently, there was some kind of a computer update, which that update made everything break, at least for a little bit. She got it fixed and But that meant that all of the timing was a little wonky, and so thank you for hanging with us on all of that. And we did prerecord that segment with Danielle Jurinsky because the hours of the show live don't work for her and her schedule, but I thought it was so important to get her story to all of you, and so I really thank her for making herself available to make all of that happen. In the second hour, we're going to be going through our... book review of Economics in One Lesson. And Producer Joe and Susan Kochavar and Yvonne Paez will be weighing in on our little roundtable. Producer Luke is under the weather, so he will not be joining us. So stay tuned for that. And one of the chapters is on unions. And I thought, oh, this is going to be kind of dry. I thought it was really super interesting. So you'll want to hear that. And we'll talk to John Boson as well in this next hour. So our quote for the end of the show, since we're Reading Henry Hazlitt's book, Economics in One Lesson, is from Henry Hazlitt. And he said this. He said, So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for our number two.
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SPEAKER 11 :
It's the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
SPEAKER 18 :
That seems to me like government is establishing a religion. If you give people rights, women's rights, gay rights, whatever, there can't be equal rights if there are special rights. Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
SPEAKER 11 :
Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
SPEAKER 18 :
Indeed, let's have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today's drive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. You've had a morning, Producer Joe, and you are still smiling. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's definitely my pleasure. It's still fun to try and figure out all the problem solving of it all.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's never boring, is it?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, ma'am, it's not.
SPEAKER 18 :
OK, let's get into the details here. Check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. Although this week we will send out one extra one and that will be on Thursday with all of the information on who to contact to contact. basically demand that they get this food situation lined around down at Fort Carson here in Colorado for our soldiers. Apparently there's food scarcity, the quality can be crummy, and that is unconscionable. We've sent $175 billion to Ukraine. Biden promised a billion dollars to Africa, and they are only spending $5 million on food for our soldiers at Fort Carson while they're taking out $22 million of their pay. Something is wrong with this picture, and it needs to be fixed. And so we're going to have all of that contact information in that email that will go out on Thursday. So make sure that you're signed up for that. And you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. The text line is 720-605-0647. That's again 720-605-0647. And let's see here. Oh. Colonel Rutledge said that he thought it would be a good idea if we let you all know where you can find us. And so 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday, we're live. Our first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. And that is on all KLZ 560 platforms. So that's KLZ 560 a.m. KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website and the KLZ app. And then once the shows are published, you can also stream them on Spotify and iTunes as well. And as you know, we focus on searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And our America's Veterans Story Show is on Sunday afternoons, 3 to 4 p.m., again on all KLZ 5 platforms. And then there are rebroadcasts each Saturday and Sunday evening, 10 to 11 p.m. as well. Our word of the day is ostensible. And it is spelled O-S-T-E-N-S-I-B-L-E. And it is basically appearing or claiming to be one thing when it is really something else. So the Green New Deal is claiming that it's trying to protect Americans the planet from climate change when, in essence, the Green New Deal is about the green that is going into PBI's pockets. Our quote of the show, quote of the day, is from Henry Hazlitt because producer Joe and Susan Kojabar and Yvonne Paez are going to be reviewing a couple of the chapters from Henry Hazlitt's book, Economics in One Lesson. And Hazlitt said this. He said, the real solution to the problem of poverty consists in finding how to increase the employment and earning power of the poor. It's kind of like you think. And I wonder what John Boson with Boson Law thinks about that. John Boson, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 03 :
How are you doing? Good morning.
SPEAKER 18 :
I do think that if the poor got was employed and they continue to earn more money, that might eliminate poverty. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, it kind of makes sense, kind of like one and one equals two, not three, but two. Yes.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think so. I think so. So we're in the holiday season, and things happen. And I actually got a little unfocused the other day when I was driving, and I thought of John Boson. He says, you know, stay focused, stay focused. And so I'm glad that I had that in my brain because of our conversations.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that and I had the pleasure of driving home last night on a sheet of ice, and it's just slowing down. I was on I-25 going southbound, going literally about 35 miles an hour, and cars were going by me going 60, 65, and then everything came to a halt. I didn't see an accident. I saw three very close calls and then about another mile down the road, there was a four-car pileup and just folks going too fast sometimes. I mean, last night was a perfect example. It wasn't slippery until it was, and then it was incredibly slick. So it's slow down, common sense.
SPEAKER 18 :
Common sense. John Boson, I know that you share dad-isms with your kids, and my father would share dad-isms with me as well, and he would say that. He would say, slow down. If you're involved in an accident, it will really slow you down. You'll have the expense to get your car fixed. And these days, a delay in being able to get your car fixed. So just a couple of extra minutes can save you days, actually, if you just use a little common sense.
SPEAKER 03 :
Days or weeks, depending on how much damage is done to that car that you don't have access to and use of. So, yeah, I mean, Kim, we've had this conversation. Common sense cures a lot of things. um but if you don't got it you don't got it but can you develop it i think you can and it's just you know looking at situations observing and what's the smart thing to do for example last night yeah slow down just slow down it just makes sense if though something happens and someone is injured what should they do and again um i really do not want to represent listeners But stuff happens to everybody. But if something happens to a friend, a neighbor, a coworker, hopefully not a loved one or yourselves out there, folks listening, but the important thing is to get advice early. Time is always of the essence. First thing you want to do if it's a physical injury you've sustained, get in, get checked out by a doctor. The next thing to do, give me a call so we can talk about what happened, why it happened. If it should not have happened, and then that advice I give on the front end of a potential claim is super valuable. Number to call for that consultation. And if it's not me, it'll be one of our other senior lawyers that's available. That number is 303-999-9999.
SPEAKER 18 :
So, John Bosen, just a clarification. You said that you did not want to represent my listeners. I think because you're meaning you don't want to have something happen to them where they've been injured.
SPEAKER 03 :
I just don't want anything to happen to folks, especially Kim Munson's show listeners.
SPEAKER 18 :
But if it does happen, they should call you, yes?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. We'll clarify that if someone didn't understand that. Yeah. Yeah. A call early on, and I have hundreds of examples of things, not so good things, that happened to folks that waited that was unnecessary. So call me soon. Don't wait. 303-999-9999.
SPEAKER 18 :
Again, that's John Bosen with Bosen Law. And any accident, it could be a work-related accident as well, be sure and give them a call at 303-999-9999. John Bosen, we'll talk with you next week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Kim, have a great rest of your show.
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SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I do thank the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. We will be starting our seventh year in solo broadcasting at the beginning of the year. And the Harris family has been with us from just about day one on the Kim Munson show. So I thank them for that. And then it's been wonky today, my friends, with some technical difficulties in our number one. I want to make sure that I mention the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. It's a nonprofit that I love, I support. Paula Sarles is the president, and she is a Gold Star wife, a Marine veteran, and she and her team are working diligently to raise the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. And there will be these pathways of service with these different bricks on it, and you can buy a brick to honor your loved one's military service and receive a beautiful certificate for that that can be hung on the wall were displayed and it is a lovely gift and so check all that out at usmcmemorialfoundation.org that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org and also wanted to mention the climateconversation.com that is where you can watch a climate conversation which is a very important documentary it's the project of walt johnson And you can watch it for free. And then we are creating these amazing informational podcasts with experts and scientists. And you can find all that at climateconversation.com. So it is time for a book review. And Producer Joe, are you ready for Economics in One Lesson?
SPEAKER 08 :
I sure hope so.
SPEAKER 18 :
We'll find out, huh? This is going to be a test. And Producer Luke is under the weather. So we have invited both Susan Kochevar. You know her. She's an entrepreneur and owner of 88 Drive-In Theater, a sponsor of the show. And she's on the line. Susan Kochevar, welcome. Thank you. Good morning. And Yvonne Paez is a co-founder of Perspectives 101, which is a civics group up in northern Colorado that she's put together just to keep people informed on key issues. Yvonne, welcome to the show. Thank you, Kim, and good morning. Okay. So, Joe, let's begin here. And our two subjects, we're on now Chapter 20 and 21. And Chapter 20 is, do unions really raise wages? And Hazlitt says this. He says, the belief that labor unions can substantially raise real wages over the long run and for the whole working population is one of the great delusions of the present age. The delusion is mainly the result of failure to recognize that wages are basically determined by labor productivity. So, Joe, I'll go to you first. Any 30,000-foot view, comments regarding this chapter on unions?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, one of the big things that I kind of noticed in this is with unions and forced regulations, if you would, it kind of inspires like leaders of companies and whatnot to possibly pay them a lower amount just to get away with sitting in the range because now they're forced to pay higher than what they may be able to incur in the net.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. So, Susan, I'll go to you. I think that Joe may be alluding to this idea that – Joe, help me – but I think with young people, they've been taught that – Business owners are greedy and they're mean and that they want to pay the very minimum that they can to their workers. And so what would you say to them? Am I kind of getting what you were saying, Joe? Yes, no?
SPEAKER 08 :
Pretty close, but with forced regulation, companies that may be smaller, like, say, the 88 drive-in, they can't do it the same as a big corporate company. So the corporate company can incur some of those hits from having a forced amount that they have to pay to all their employees and the forced extra regulations that happen, whereas someone smaller down...
SPEAKER 18 :
can't quite do that but because there's regulations in place it's based along the board for everybody and it kind of screws up the system okay so you're saying that it thank you for clarifying so you're saying that it makes it more difficult for your smaller entrepreneurs because they may not be able to absorb those costs am i getting that exactly okay susan your comments on that
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I think it also depends on the kind of products or services that you're providing. We're a little drive-in movie theater. If I raise my prices too high, people have disposable income. They just won't come. They'll find something else to do. And I'm not very big. Joe's correct. I can't absorb all of those prices and spread it around a lot of people or a lot of products or services. We have one. We have movie tickets and we sell food. So I think he's right about that.
SPEAKER 18 :
So, Susan, I was thinking about you the other day because I was driving down the street in my neighborhood and the... was providing a movie night, possibly at the art center, or in the summer sometimes they have a movie in the park that they will provide. And I was thinking, huh, now I'm not going to partake of that, but yet tax dollars are being used to provide that, and it's also using tax dollars to provide a service to that private enterprise provides, but they're providing it possibly for free, well, I put that in air quotes, and competing with our private enterprise. And that's why the proper role of government is so important for us to remember, Susan.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. I see that in more and more communities. And sometimes those groups don't even buy the rights to the film. So if I see that a community nearby is playing a Disney film, I can call Disney and check. And a lot of times they're ordered to cease and desist because they just think it's a good idea. They don't have any idea of property rights. and they just offer the program. And, yes, that does really heavily compete with me, especially now. You know, I bring in brand-new movies, but sometimes I'll bring in an older movie with that, and you've got the community playing this older movie. It makes it more difficult for me, even though I'm paying top dollar and I'm paying for the intellectual property rights for those films.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. Yvonne Paez, why don't you weigh in on this?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, since we're talking about unions and how they may artificially want to help with the pricing based on maybe this younger population that thinks that companies are out to get people and they've got all this money and it's really they're just not giving it to the employees. I think we probably should put that in proper perspective and just remind people that Companies and businesses, small and large, often run on really tight margins. And I know a little bit about this because I have been working with the group that analyzes and talks about some of the larger companies like the Targets, the Walmarts, the Macy's, things like that, and how shoplifting affects them. Not that we're talking about shoplifting, but it highlights and they talk a lot about how thin some of those profit margins are. And when people shoplift, then that causes them not to be able to pay their employees and maybe they'd have to work with one less, et cetera. So I just want to throw that into the equation that, no, these companies, small and large, aren't just making money hand over fist and deciding to keep it all and not pass it on to their customers. employees, they often have tight profit margins. And just like Susan said, in her business, where she has employees as well, if she were to raise the prices for the employees, at some point, she can't continue to be in business because the profit margin is just not there at all. And if she passed that on to the consumer by raising the price so she could pay her her people more than others like she said there's right especially now with the inflation there's less disposable income people would just say well i just have to cut out going to the movies from what i like to do so we have to see that all of this is connected i think that's a really really important point
SPEAKER 18 :
So, Producer Joe, you're a young guy, and I feel that our young people are really getting squeezed with government-induced inflation and, again, this headline with Joe Biden going out the door, doling out all this money. to his cronies, ultimately that creates inflation, which reduces buying power. It's a silent thief. But the taxes that are being taken out of your paycheck, let's just think about that. If we could reduce those taxes that are being taken out of your paycheck, because government is the greediest, I think, of them all. The Marxists like to say that it's, oh, it's that business owner that's so greedy. Oh, no, no, no. It's government. So if we could reduce those taxes, what's being taken out of your paycheck, that would be very helpful, yes?
SPEAKER 08 :
that would absolutely be helpful. And I actually have an extra point with that too. I think the bigger thing that I really am nervous about, and it's kind of like protect yourself before you let someone else protect you. You know what I mean? Um, when a big company say has those losses it it's a smaller impact it doesn't impact someone's entire livelihood i think that's the difference for the employee because if that employee gets a say a decrease in their wages now they're gonna struggle for eating and feeding their family
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. And so this idea then the unions swoop in and say that they're going to assure that their workers get a certain wage. But ultimately, Yvonne, they're focused on wages. They're not focused on productivity. And as people become more productive – That increases the economy. The pie gets bigger. But I think unions are more about control. And ultimately, what Hazlitt said in Chapter 20 of do unions really raise wages is ultimately it can lead to unemployment for others as they're doing these forced wages that unions are negotiating for, Yvonne.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I think we need to keep our eye on the facts of what were the unions really created to do in the first place all these decades ago. And as the book says, their central function is that they serve to improve local working conditions. Remember when people were too young to work or some of the working conditions were dangerous and stuff. They had a real... function, to help bring safety into the workplace and a lot of those other things. But they kind of took it on as an additional duty to decide to be the economist and say, oh, you just need to pay more because I want you to, without any understanding of the delicate balance, the delicate economic balance that ties everything together.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, that's a great point, Yvonne. Okay, Joe, you have a comment?
SPEAKER 08 :
And I also think at that time when they became the economists, they started worrying about how long was someone in the union, not how good is their work. Are they worth the level that they're at?
SPEAKER 18 :
And I think, Susan, Joe is hitting on a very important point, is with unions, instead of meritocracy, it could be seniority. You see that with the teachers' unions. And so it doesn't strive for excellence. It strives for mediocrity instead of merit. Your thoughts, Susan?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I've seen a lot of that. I mean, I think Yvonne's right. In the beginning, unions were about, you know, they'd get people in, they'd teach them a trade, they'd make sure if you hired somebody from the union, it was the highest quality. You had some of that. But, you know, all things evolve, and it... turned into something that it just should never have been. And now you're right. What happens is the people who have been in the union the longest get seniority, they get the best jobs, all that stuff, and it's not tied necessarily to quality. And I can tell you as a business owner, I had to – I was hiring plumbers, and we'd have them come in and do some work. And then my favorite plumbing company, I called them, and they wouldn't come at 3 o'clock in the afternoon unless they charged me double because that was the new union rule. And so I just couldn't use my favorite plumbing company anymore because they had voted to go union. So when you look at – So they didn't get your business. No, they didn't get my business. And so when I have to look out into the real world and see what actually happens, that's not good. And I did work for a company one time, a grocery store that had a union. And when I was working, there's two different companies. levels of unions in the store and the different levels would fight. And it made it very difficult to get work done. It just, it really created an unhappy work environment.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and to your point, there was a time for unions, and it was important regarding working conditions. But many times, Yvonne, with something that's a good idea, you get government or you get force involved, and it can become a bad idea. So Yvonne, and then Joe, and then we'll go to break. Yvonne?
SPEAKER 05 :
And what happens is they just, lose sight of their original mission and, you know, like anything else, power. So they feel, well, if I started out by doing this and now I'm in there, I can do this and now I can do something else. And that's when they decided, you know, they can start deciding, you know, what prices ought to be without truly understanding what things cost. So it's kind of a cause of getting a little big for their britches, shall we say. And then, you know, there's also they're involved in whether sometimes whether people strike or not. And that'll be another thing we can talk about here in a minute. So let's go to Joe.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, Joe. I also want to mention what it does to the non-unionized workers. So the union can't employ everybody. So now all these other workers who want to get into that area work extra hard to hopefully get into that area. But that area is used up and the tax dollars are just gone now. Or the wages are gone. And the people who believe in the hard work and giving a good product now are kind of sitting around trying to figure out how to do the best they can while they're feeling kind of slighted.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And over Christmas break, I would recommend that you put the family in the car and visit the Center for American Values located on the beautiful Riverwalk in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. And Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. And Brad Padula, who is a Emmy Award winning documentary maker, are the co-founders. And they have created just a very special place with these portraits of valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients. And then also created a great quote book as well, which is a lovely gift. You can get all that information about the center by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And Yvonne Paez, before we get to that, you and I were down at an On Values presentation several months ago at the center, and then we ended up walking on the beautiful Riverwalk as well. The center's pretty special, isn't it?
SPEAKER 05 :
It is amazing. First of all, since you talked about it for so long, I couldn't wait to get down there. And when I did, I was just flabbergasted. You walk in, and then there's Portraits of Valor, which are these pictures of these Medal of Honor winners. And then you can see them. You can see their quotes. And what you don't know is it's like a little mini cinema. And if you see one that really, really touches your heart, you can ask the staff, can you pull the video on that guy? And you can actually see about the one person that you want to. It's so special. And there's so much to see and do there.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and it is. It really is. So be sure and check out AmericanValueCenter.org for more information. Yvonne, before we went to break, we're talking about unions regarding the chapter in Economics in One Lesson. And you mentioned strike, and we've heard of union strikes. So what did you want to say about that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, what I want to say is that for the most part, Strikes should be avoided because it causes problems all around, obviously for the people consuming the products, for the people that aren't working, for the employers who don't have their workers working and they're missing production, et cetera. So strikes should be very, very last resorty. But just so we know and understand, there is a time and a place for a strike, and that is when you really are trying to speak to somebody about something and there really is an issue. and they're not listening so i just i don't want anybody to lump strikes into always bad but they should be rarely used and used only when necessary and i would say that is pretty similar to when we speak up in our communities if something is not right i mean we don't need to be at city council complaining about every single decision they make and everything just speaking up all the time you know this cry wolf thing But, you know, when time comes, when you start getting a bill for trash, when you don't even receive that trash service or something, okay, it's time to speak up now because, you know, sometimes cities or whatever go a little too far. So just know when it's time to speak up.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and you're referring to Fort Collins and their situation where the city has determined that there is one trash hauler that is the preferred trash hauler. And saying, yes, there can be competition, but if you use the competition, you pay the competition, and also you have to pay a fee to the city for not using their preferred trash hauler. It's like, what's wrong with that picture, Yvonne?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, from your first hour, you were talking about the problems in Aurora. It sounds a lot like, you know, these guys coming and knocking on the door and saying, you owe me money. And you go, wait, I pay the landlord. Well, that's the landlord. You need to pay me, too. I mean, it just does not sound good at all. Susan, what do you think about that?
SPEAKER 06 :
I would agree with Yvonne. That top-down control just doesn't work. And it's the same thing we see with unions.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and Gammy had texted this in. She said that unions have become socialist Marxist tools. They use control. And what started out as possibly a way to protect workers is now like the workers of the world unite. And so it really has moved into unions can be very, very Marxist. And here in Colorado, unions, the unionization of I think municipal workers was approved. Maybe it was county was approved last year by the state legislature. I need to get the exact details. So I apologize. Exactly what that is. But that's a very bad idea. Even FDR. Right. A progressive president realized that it was not a good idea to have public unions because people that are being paid by tax dollars then are organizing to get more money from the taxpayers, which means that we get squeezed more and more. Joe, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I just want to point out as well is like once one union is affected, all the rest of them get affected as well. Because now the other ones are going to be like, oh, well, you know, they got this. So we want this too. And now you're just increasing it across the board. And it just becomes kind of fixed to where that the small business can't even operate too well. Yep. That's an excellent point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Go ahead, Yvonne. It's known as setting precedent, and then that just kind of builds off of that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. So let's get over here to Chapter 21, Enough to Buy Back the Product. And Susan, I'm going to go to you on this. It says the initial paragraph is amateur writers on economics are always asking for just prices and just wages. These nebulous conceptions of economic justice come down to us from medieval times. The classical economists worked out and said a different concept, the concept of functional prices and functional wages. And functional prices are those that encourage the largest volume of production and the largest volume of sales. And functional wages are those that tend to bring about the highest volume of employment and the largest real payrolls. I think that kind of sums it up. Susan, what do you think?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think it does really well. And I wonder how they would apply that. Say you're employing people to make yachts, so you're supposed to pay each person enough to buy a yacht, when those are essentially trades. One person comes in and does all the plumbing, and one person comes in and does all the wood. So it's kind of a silly and oversimplistic way to look at employment and businesses, I think. You know, my people are my very best asset, and I cannot do every single job myself. So I want the best people, and I'll pay them as much as I can so that I get the best quality work. And I have to offer prices to the customer that both pay the employee the expenses and allow for profit, but it also has to be a price that the customer can and is willing to pay for my product.
SPEAKER 18 :
Excellent point. And while you were saying that, I was thinking about, I think, something, Joe, that a lot of young people, well, and older, I hate to call it liberal, because this whole... All these different words, a liberal classical education was an education founded on the principles of all men are created equal, rise from God, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. So these words get all co-opted, and I think that's by design. So those on the left, let's say that they like to make the argument that so somebody is successful and they've created a business and they've been successful. If you if you create a product and people will trade their hard earned dollars for that, that's great. Hopefully you'll make a profit. And if a lot of people think that your product will benefit them and a lot of people buy it, you'll get wealthy. And what I've seen is then this kind of over the shoulder, people looking at like a Jeff Bezos and say, well, he doesn't need he doesn't need all that money. And so he should give some of that money away to people that don't have money. And. I'm looking at that and I'm thinking, well, I don't think that people should have a right to have a claim on the money that he has earned. And they say, well, he doesn't need that yacht. He doesn't need that extra house. But somebody wealthy, when they build that extra house or they have that yacht, to what Susan was alluding to, is it gives people jobs, the workers jobs. the plumbers. It creates jobs for people, and so they trade value for value. So instead of giving his money away, he is creating value in the things that he might be buying or investing in. Joe, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think the thing that, well, and I'm speaking for me, but I think a lot of people feel similarly as me, but I think the increase in regulations upon us, the little guys, wow, he's kind of getting away with maybe breaking a bunch of regulations that could have been put in place to protect us, but now they kind of do the opposite and hurt us. And I think we see those multi-billionaire people kind of doing that and i think we just kind of overlook what is the actual true cause it's forced taxation and regulation
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and to your point, many times that the rules are different for different people. Can you say Hunter Biden and Tina Peters? The rules are different on the and what you're saying is a young person. And this is in America. The rules are supposed to be uniform and affect everyone differently. The same.
SPEAKER 08 :
And Hunter Biden should have gone to jail because he broke laws. I would have gone to jail for that same thing. But here we are. He gets a full pardon on 10 years worth of what could have happened. That's not fair in any way, shape and form.
SPEAKER 18 :
So, Yvonne, I'll go to you. And what Joe is saying, and I think a lot of young people are concerned about, and that is cronyism, where big business and government get into – big business and big government basically get in bed together, and they create crony special deals. And our young people look at that, and they say, that's not fair. And they know inherently something is wrong with that, Yvonne.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. So it's not fair, right? to interfere or meddle with the economy, right? Because that's what causes the problem. So it's not the people who have big businesses or small businesses or that. We have to understand that an economy is kind of an independent, breathing, living thing. Like human nature, it has a nature of its own, a balance, an equilibrium. And if we interfere or meddle with it, we break it. And so that's what the cronyism is, is interfering and meddling with it that causes these kinds of problems.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that is an excellent point. And Joe? And it's typically done through force. Force regulations, force legislations, and force taxation.
SPEAKER 18 :
Boy, that word force. We talk about that a lot on this show, don't we, Producer Joe? So let's continue the discussion when we come back with Producer Joe and Yvonne Paez and Susan Kochavar. These are great discussions, and it comes to you because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, Lorne Levy, he can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Check out the... USMC Memorial Foundation's website. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And you can get all kinds of information about the remodel. And also check out their Buy a Brick program, which is a lovely gift to honor your loved one's military service. And they'll receive a beautiful certificate. And then when the remodel is complete, certainly we'll have a brick on one of the pathways of service. You can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And these are always great discussions regarding this book, Economics in One Lesson. And Producer Joe, I so appreciate you, as a young person, your willingness to look at these ideas and kick the tires on these ideas, which is so important. And so I thank you for that.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's my pleasure. My dad always told me, you're never going to get the hard stuff done if you just walk around it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, I love that. I've never heard that one. So let's summarize. And I've got Susan Kochevar and Yvonne Paez on the line first. Joe, let's go to you on these two chapters regarding unions and the other is to make enough money to buy back the product. What's kind of your takeaway you'd like to leave with people?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think the harder we work to make it even and stop worrying about our productivity and our quality of product, the worse off we're going to get. And I think we should just start going back to the full free market idea with... semblance of protection and maybe how is the building placed like maybe these conditions are kind of the bare minimum i can get with that but regulating our what we have to pay everybody and whatnot it's just creating a bigger fallacy in the system wow susan what do you what's your comments on on this
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I would agree completely with Joe. It's not a top-down sort of thing that, you know, everybody needs to build their own skills, realize you really work for yourself no matter what job you do, and, you know, learn to advocate and negotiate for yourself. I think if we could teach our young people one thing, that would be how to negotiate and build your skills and build your worth, that you really are your own small business and you don't need somebody to control your life and do all that stuff for you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and if Susan – Susan, if people work hard and show up on time and are willing to learn and be better, which makes the business more productive, which makes it more profitable – Then that, as you say, I love this, that you are your own small business. So instead of looking at your employer as the enemy, look at it as a partnership to work together. And as one is successful, the other will be successful, Susan.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and you can't make everything a complete playing field and make everything fair. It never works that way. And you can't really expect life to be fair. Are you going to work for people that aren't good employers? Yes, you are. That's where you build your skills and you go find somebody else you want to contract with for your labor. and talent. That's how that works. But the idea that you're going to make everything fair for wages and how long you've been doing a job, it squashes productivity, it squashes ingenuity, and it's not possible.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thanks, Susan Kochevar. Yvonne, somebody told me that the only fair in life is the county fair and the state fair. So what do you think about that? Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and the only certainty is death and taxes, right? Got it. You're right. But, yeah, you know, whoever invented that little saying of making enough to buy the product, it's probably not half the time it's not even a product you want to own. Who knows what you're working in and what you're doing, you know? Good point. But the idea is I love the way that Susan put it, that you're your own small business, because that's the way I always looked at it before I was even a business owner. And the bottom line is this is something I know that the young people are going to have a problem with because it's uncomfortable. And a lot of young people have, again, the fallacy, you know, they've been told that things should be easy and they should be comfortable. Life is not easy and it's not comfortable. And I think you and I, we've talked about this before. If we're our own small businesses and you're not making it on the one business, you open a second business, right? You get that second job. You get that third job. And I've had up to four jobs in my life. At one time, right? Yes, at one time. And it wasn't comfortable. But, you know, you're a Kansas girl. You understand making hay while the sun shines, right? You've got it. You're only young once. You only have that energy to do all of that when you're young. And so you've got to do the short-term pain for the long term. term gain. And I'm not an economist, but I made it work for me. And it's not about what you make so much, but what you spend. You need to be a saver. I came to this country at the age of 70. Well, it's a long story. I was from here, then left and was in Latin America and then came back alone at 17 with $500 in my pocket. And that was it, you know, kind of like in the fairytale. you know, then send off to make their way in the world kind of thing. And I'm now a homeowner and a business owner. So yes, it can be done. But if you think you're going to do it on one job, you're not. So you got to figure out what it is that you want.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, Yvonne Paez, thank you so much for weighing in on this. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you for the opportunity.
SPEAKER 18 :
And Susan Kochevar, always great wisdom. Thank you so much. Thank you. And, Joe, you're a real sport to do this. Thank you. It's my pleasure. It's fun for me. And to Yvonne's point is my dad said to me, and Yvonne alluded to this, that young people these days may not be told that you need to really – Pay your dues and make things happen. And my dad said, if you do what you need to when you need to, then someday you can do what you want to when you want to. But if you get those things crossways, then it doesn't always work out that well. So, again, these are such great discussions. I wanted to get to just a few of these text messages regarding Danielle Jurinsky, who we had on in the first hour. She is a Aurora City Councilwoman member. And it said, one of these is, who pays the mortgage on those apartments when they are in receivership? And this is the apartments in Aurora. We're talking about that. And great question. Another comment is, when good men do nothing, bad wins. We have to fight. We can't quit. And another listener said, Kim, I don't understand why these people will sit back and look at this while Danielle is on my front line. Oh, that's from Johnny J., And then Connie said, thank you for the important story with Danielle Jarenski. And let's see, regarding the CEO that was gunned down in New York City, somebody asked, how many murders were committed in New York City in the last week? Apparently none, as we haven't heard of any since the CEO was tragically murdered. Certainly that there were more. And one other thing from yesterday. From Jenny, we were talking about government grant money, and she clarified that basically government grant money to these municipalities and counties and the state is like drugs, is like cocaine. And so we need to do the intervention, and we need to stop all of this grant money that is going out to all of these different municipalities because the federal government doesn't have the money. They're printing it. which is causing inflation and these high deficits and in debt. This is not sustainable, and so we've got to get this turned around. It's going to be a little painful, but we've got to do it. Our quote for the end of the show is from Henry Hazlitt. He said this, When each of us is free to work out his own economic destiny within the framework of the market economy, the institution of private property, and the general rule of law, We will all improve our economic condition much faster than when we are ordered around by bureaucrats. So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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