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In this insightful episode of Washington Watch, the dialogue expands to global security threats with retired Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin. The conversation covers the geopolitical landscape, highlighting concerns over China's economic prowess, the Syrian conflict, and the necessity of redefining military priorities. Tune in to understand the implications of these challenges and how they shape the future of U.S. defense and international diplomacy.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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We have to break this endless cycle of having policies that entice people to come to our country illegally because that is the lack. We're losing sovereignty and losing control over our nation.
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That was South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, the ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee earlier today at a hearing on President-elect Donald Trump's plan to deport those who are in the United States illegally. Welcome to a special edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. We're broadcasting in front of a live audience at our media center here in Washington, D.C. Well, coming up on this Tuesday edition, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee who was a part of today's hearing, will join us here in studio in just a moment. And we are one step closer to victory on the National Defense Reauthorization Act that has been laden with leftist social policies in the last few years.
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We're proud of this product. It was released over the weekend and it includes critical wins for our troops and for our country at a very important time. We stopped funds from going to CRT and our military academies. We banned TRICARE from prescribing treatments that would ultimately sterilize our kids. And we gutted the DEI bureaucracy.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson earlier today. We're going to talk more about that because you weighed in and you helped make a difference as we have seen this bill cleaned up. Now, it still has a few more hurdles to go. We'll talk about that later. Also, we are going to return to the topic of Syria today as how to influence the future of Syria and the broader Middle East will be a major question for the incoming Trump administration.
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The end of this regime is a defeat for all who enabled its barbarity and its corruption, none more than Iran, Hezbollah, and Russia. So this moment presents a historic opportunity, but it also carries considerable risks. History shows how quickly moments of promise can descend into conflict,
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and violence. That was Secretary of State Antony Blinken yesterday. Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin, retired from the United States Army, joins me to discuss steps the incoming administration could take to stabilize that region. And federal and state authorities are saying they have no clues about the mysterious drones that have been sighted with growing frequency on the East Coast over U.S. air bases and other facilities. New Jersey has had the largest number of reported sightings, and New Jersey Congressman Chris Smith, who met last night with state and federal officials in search of answers, will join us later on this edition of Washington Watch. Well, as we've been discussing each day here on Washington Watch, the world is in a volatile state and prayer for our nation and our allies is needed. So I want to invite you to join us in Operation Prayer Shield. Thousands of Christians from across the country are joined together in praying for our nation and for our allies. If you'd like to join us, simply text the word SHIELD, that's S-H-I-E-L-D, to 67742. You'll receive weekly alerts, daily prayer points, and more. So text the word SHIELD to 67742. Also, I want to remind those of you who are on our journey through the Bible, stand on the word. The second volume of our Stand on the Word journal is now available. So don't forget to order your copy by going to TonyPerkins.com or text the word journal to 67742. And if you're not familiar with our journey through the Bible, well, text the word Bible to 67742 and I'll let you know all about it. Well, the House and the Senate compromised version. They have come together in an agreement over the National Defense Authorization Act. It's expected to come up for a final vote later this week in the House. Yesterday, key military service organizations announced their support for the NDAA, which they said provides service members and their families the support they need. The annual defense policy bill has also been praised for weeding out the woke policies at the Department of Defense that have made it hard to recruit and to keep good service members. And it left out the language that the Senate's version had included to force women age 18 and older to register for selective service. something that my next guest helped lead the charge against in the United States Senate. He was here on the program last week talking about it. You responded, and that language came out. With me now in person to talk more about this is Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri. He serves on four Senate committees, including the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. Senator Hawley, welcome back to the program. Thank you. Great to be with you. And congratulations on, yes... I need one of those soundtracks during the week so I can always have a crowd with me.
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That language is out. It's out. It's out, which is a big victory. As we talked about last week, it never should have been in the first place, Tony. It's an absolute affront to women, to families. to our sense of the differences between male and female, which of course the left is trying to erase everywhere we look, but it is out of the bill, which is a tremendous victory, and now we can go forward and continue to do what we need to do to get the military out of the abortion business, which they're currently in as well.
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Right. And just for review, for the benefit of our audience, one of the concerns about forcing women to register for the draft, as the military has had difficulty in recruiting and in its retention because of its woke policies, many of which were pulled out in this latest version, they were – I think the reality of going back to a draft is real.
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Oh, it is real. I mean, particularly as we continue to proliferate the number of conflicts we're involved in. You look at what this administration's done, the path they've led us down. We've got conflicts all over the world. They've committed us in resources and troops, all kinds of places. So the possibility of a draft is a very real thing. There's a huge shortfall in retention and recruitment. And forcing women to register, again, compulsory registration, is something that they were looking at to try and stem that tide.
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Now, you previously served on the Senate Armed Services Committee. You're now on the Judiciary Committee. But you've got a lot of military presence in your state of Missouri, so you keep up with those issues. Are you satisfied with the current version of the National Defense Authorization Act?
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Well, I'm still reviewing the final text. It hasn't come over to us yet in the Senate, so I want to look and see exactly what passes the House.
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So you're not of the Nancy Pelosi school of government where you pass it, then read it?
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Yeah, I prefer to read it first, you know, as a general. Yeah, just, you know, an idea. Unusual in Congress, but just an idea. But I do think that, listen, it's a huge improvement to get out the draft our daughters language. It is a major win to have language in there that prevents the military health care service from spending money on transgender surgeries, which is good. I'm concerned that the Biden administration has been spending hundreds of millions of dollars on transgender surgeries through the VA, which I don't like at all. So I want to look carefully at all of that language. But listen, I think this is headed in the right direction. And there's going to be a lot more work to do under a Trump administration.
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Do you see more accomplishments on weeding out some of the policies that the Biden administration has put in place in these last four years? I mean, recall in 2016, Donald Trump ended a Barack Obama era policy of transgenderism in the military. Is it possible to go back and revisit these things that have undermined the effectiveness of our military?
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Oh, it is. It's not only possible. I think it's absolutely necessary. And I'm sitting down with Pete Hegseth, the president's nominee for Secretary of Defense. It's either tomorrow or the next day. This is something I look forward to talking with him about. I mean, we've got a lot of work to do to get our military back to being the most lethal, ready fighting force in the world. That's their job. Their job is not to be a social experiment for their left. Their job is not to be an anti-family, anti-woman organization. Their job is not to be an experiment in transgenderism. It's to protect us. And I know the president understands that, and I hope that this will be a top priority for him and for his new defense secretary come January 20th.
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Speaking of our military and, as you mentioned, the conflicts that we have been engaged in, the world's a very volatile place with what we're going to talk more today about Syria with the fall of Bashar al-Assad. I cannot recall a time, certainly in my lifetime, but I think going all the way back to World War II, maybe even beyond, where we've seen the world so unsettled.
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Well, that's exactly right. And we're also facing a peer competitor in China. This is something that none of us have seen in our lifetimes. You think about the Soviet Union, how powerful they were. They never had an economy ever to rival ours. I mean, it's sort of close in the 50s. After that, we blew them away economically. China is already with us toe-to-toe economically. Their military is larger than ours is. So we've got them. We've got Russia, of course. We've got North Korea. We've got Iran. I mean, we've got a lot of problems in the world. And this is why it's important to have a new president.
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I would agree about the assessment of China. In fact, I think China is probably the greatest threat, maybe not the greatest short-term threat, but it is clearly the greatest long-term threat to this country.
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Absolutely.
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What do we need to be doing on that front?
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Well, we need to be sending the clear message that we're not going to allow them just to expand indefinitely all across the world. We're not going to put up with their imperialism. And we need to be also... sending the clear message, we're not going to allow them to cannibalize our economy, which this president, this current president, has absolutely allowed. We are right now, Tony, paying Chinese auto manufacturers who make electric vehicles. We are sending them tax subsidies to make electric vehicles in China and then sell them back to us at a premium. That's our tax money. I mean, it is unbelievable.
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You would think after COVID, when they withheld the personal protective devices that we needed from the disease that they created, that we would have rethought this relationship and brought more of that manufacturing onto our own shores or at least into our own hemisphere.
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And we haven't done any of that. And in fact, this administration's gone in the opposite direction. Their Green New Deal is just a code for massive giveaways to China. China has benefited so much. Solar panels, where are they made overwhelmingly? China. Wind turbines, made in China. And not just made by anybody, made by slave populations, the Uyghurs who are an enslaved religious minority. And here we are literally financing that. It's insane. It's absolutely insane. We've got to stop that.
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And there's a personal responsibility there, too, especially as we come up on the Christmas season, people shopping. I always turn it over to look at made-in-where. You bet. And there's so many of our products. It's becoming difficult to actually find products not made in China.
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I think we ought to say to these foreign manufacturers that are based in other countries, whether it's China or anywhere else, if you want to have access to our market— You've got to make a certain percentage of your goods in the United States of America with American labor.
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And certainly not be hostile to the values that we as a nation say we uphold. And I think that was the idea back in the 1990s with the agreements with China with most favored nation status, that it was going to change them. Unfortunately, I think it's changed us more than it's changed them.
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And just look at the NBA. You remember LeBron James just a few years ago advocating for what was happening in Hong Kong, dramatic crackdown on democracy in Hong Kong. And LeBron James is out there defending the Chinese government. Why? Well, it's all about the money. They need the access to the Chinese market. This is your point. It's changed us, not them.
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We have elevated the dollar. more than the Almighty when it comes to the values and the morality that this country was founded upon. We just have about a minute and a half left. One quick question. As you were Attorney General of Missouri, you did a lot on big tech, tracking them and what they were doing to exploit the American people. Do you foresee, given what we saw during COVID, what's come forward with this administration, is there going to be a crackdown on Big tech.
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I hope so, and I hope one of the things we'll go after is how they're exposing our kids to content about promoting gender transitions. You look at the explosion in gender transition surgeries, gender dysphoria. Where's that coming from? It's coming from those social media platforms, and they know very well what's on their platforms. They know they're exposing our kids to it, and they're making gobs of money off of it. How do we get at that? Well, I think what we've got to do is give parents the ability to protect their kids. And right now, these big tech companies, if your child, if they take a picture of your child off your Facebook page and they exploit it, and they expose your kid to child pornography, or they turn that picture into child pornography, you can't do anything about it. You can't sue them. You can't challenge them. You can't get a hearing. Section 230. Section 230. We've got to change that.
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All right. Well, hopefully we'll get at that in this next administration. Senator Josh Hawley, always great to see you. Thank you for your leadership on the Hill. Thank you for fighting for faith, family, and freedom. And thanks for joining us here today on Watch for Head Watch.
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Thank you.
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Let's thank Senator Josh Hawley. All right, when we come back, I'll be joined by FRC's very own retired Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin to discuss some of the latest developments in Syria following the collapse of the brutal Assad regime. Stay tuned for more.
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Father, we thank you. You have entrusted us with this moment in history, and I pray that we would be found faithful, and that as a result of our faithfulness to you, that thousands, millions would come into the kingdom as they would experience the forgiveness of sin and the new life that is found only in Jesus Christ. Amen. We'll come back to a special edition of Washington Watch with a live audience here. Isn't it a wonderful looking audience? of partners from across the country that are joining us here today in our media center at our headquarters in Washington, D.C. Well, the Israeli military carried out more airstrikes across Syria overnight into Tuesday as a part of their effort to destroy weapons, aircraft, and military facilities that could pose a threat to Israel following the collapse of the brutal Assad regime. The Israeli defense minister said today that he and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had instructed the military to create in southern Syria a zone free of weapons and terrorist threats. It's a move that has been condemned by U.N. officials and some Middle Eastern nations, including Iran, which is urging the United Nations Security Council to respond. Does anyone really want weapons to fall into the hands of Islamist rebels who have ties to terrorism? With me now to discuss this and more is retired Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin, Executive Vice President here at the Family Research Council. General Boykin spent the last four years of his 36-and-a-half-year military career serving as the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence. He was also one of the original members of the U.S. Army's Delta Force. General Boykin, welcome to Washington Watch.
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Good to be back.
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And you'll notice I'm in your honor. I'm wearing a pink shirt tonight, all right? So I just wanted you to be aware of that.
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No comment.
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All right. Let's talk about – yesterday we were on discussing Syria, the fall of Bashar al-Assad, his regime. Israel taking this opportunity to move rapidly to make sure that what was left behind there cannot be picked up and used against them. Smart move?
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Absolutely. This is a big thing. And it's a great opportunity for Israel, too. And they're going to be criticized, obviously, for this. But they have an opportunity now to set the stage for actually being able to have negotiations with this incoming group if they're inclined to do so. And I think that what we have to be careful of is – not putting lethal aid in their hands because we have a history of doing that.
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Right. You're talking into the hands of the rebels.
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In the hands of the rebels. Now, on the other hand, I think we ought to go in with massive humanitarian relief. Because there's still, from the Civil War that started in 2011, there's a lot of people that are displaced. And we've talked to some of them. We've dealt with some of the Christians and others in that part of the country. But they are going to need massive aid if they want to get this country back together. And that will... in fact, help them to accept this new regime if they could broker with us and the United Nations and others to get something in there that will be of real use.
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Is this something that the incoming Trump administration could do to leverage humanitarian aid for certain parameters in terms of human rights, religious freedom, and other conditions?
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Oh yeah, there have to be caveats to it, absolutely. There's an enclave, and I'm not sure that everybody's aware of it, but there is an enclave up there that has Christians.
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In the northeast part of it.
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Yeah, you have three different religions in there, and they live peacefully. They live together, and they live peacefully.
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But Turkey is breathing down their necks.
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Turkey, and sadly, when the Turks crossed the border into that area, Under Donald Trump's leadership, he pulled the Americans out of there. And so they were able to do just about what they wanted to do when they went across that border down there. And you sent me and Michelle Bachmann and Carter over to sit down with his national security advisors to ask him, don't do this. But he did, now I'm not criticizing him because I'm one of those people that thinks that he's gonna do a real service to this nation.
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Earlier today, we were talking with Chris Mitchell, CBN, Middle East Bureau Chief, and he was saying that the Islamic rebels that overthrew Bashar al-Assad were being aided by Turkey, by Erdogan. And so that gives Turkey an in into Syria as he seeks to reestablish the caliphate, the Ottoman Empire, as his big dream.
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Yeah, most of these people that are part of this rebel force were at one time called the Free Syrian Army. And I was working some stuff on the periphery on this when the Civil War was going on. And from all accounts, they had the right attitude. They were there for the right reasons. They wanted a democratic government, and they wanted to improve the lives of their people because Bashar al-Assad and his father before him lived an incredibly ostentatious lifestyle, sort of like Saddam Hussein when they finally saw what he was doing. So I think that... I think there's a great possibility that we could see things turn around there.
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Iran is a big loser in this because they were able to profit from part of the relationship there with Syria. They're in bad shape in terms of their ability, no longer able to use Hezbollah, Hamas is decimated, so their proxies are pretty much gone. Could this force Iran into a more desperate position to pursue even more rapidly the nuclear capabilities?
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Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, that's a good question, and I don't really know how to answer that, to be honest with you, because I think that they're much closer than they let on to having a nuclear weapon right now if their delivery system is what they've got problems with.
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All right, I've just got a minute left. General, what should the incoming Trump administration do to head that off?
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All right. the toughest sanctions that we can possibly use against them should be done right away, immediately, because they are violating the JCPOA to start with, and this administration has done absolutely nothing
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in response to that. They've unfrozen many assets and helped them actually fund their terrorist activities.
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That's what they've done. That's exactly right. That's right.
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General Jerry Boykin, always great to have you on the program. Thanks for joining us. Good to be with you. And we're going to be watching this very, very closely. All right, folks, still to come, we're going to be joined by Congressman Chris Smith of New Jersey. Some drones flying over the East Coast. What are they about? Well, he was investigating that last night. And then coming up next, Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma joins me to talk more about the welfare of Christians in Syria. That's next. No, go away. It begins here. And here. And here. Every day. Before you stand, you need solid ground. Standing in a culture that wants you to surrender the truth won't work unless you have a firm foundation. At Family Research Council, we have that firm foundation. And you can find us standing. We stand for the value of all human life. We stand for the right of families to flourish. And every day we stand for your freedom to believe and to live out those beliefs both at home and abroad. We work with government officials, educating them on the issues from a biblical worldview. And when necessary, we hold them accountable. We equip Christians across America to be informed and to take action in their communities. With our daily radio program, television appearances, and vast online presence, we reach people where they are. We envision an America where all human life is valued, families flourish, and religious liberty thrives. And that won't be realized if we're not standing. Stand for faith. Stand for family. Stand for freedom. Stand with us at FRC.
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Welcome back to a special edition of Washington Watch with a live audience here in our media center at our headquarters in Washington, D.C. If you've not yet downloaded the Stand Firm app, I encourage you to get the Stand Firm app where you can take Washington Watch with you wherever you go. Just go to the App Store and download the Stand Firm app or text APP to 67742 and I'll send you Not only will you get the daily broadcast of Washington Watch, you'll get the Washington Stand, our news feed, and you'll get our morning devotional, Stand on the Word. So go to the App Store, get the Stand Firm app. The collapse of the brutal Assad regime over the weekend has been met with mixed reactions, mostly positive, but also expression of concern. As bad as the Assad regime was, the situation in Syria now is fraught with much uncertainty, especially for Christians and minorities in the areas that have been taken over by rebel jihadist groups. What impact might the latest developments have on them, and what could the incoming administration do to protect Christians in that region of the world. Joining me now to discuss this is Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma, who serves on four committees, including the Select Committee on Intelligence. He's also the vice chair-elect of the Senate Republican Conference, and he served in Christian ministry for more than 20 years before coming to Congress. Senator Lankford, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always great to see you.
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Thanks, Tony. I wish I could be sitting there with you in the live audience there, so thanks.
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Well, they send their regards and their gratitude for the work that you do on behalf of families. So let's talk about the fall of the Assad regime. Where does that leave Christians that still remain in that nation? Because as bad as he was, he kind of had a hands-off approach when it came to Christians.
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He did, actually. He allowed Christians to be able to be there. The challenge has been over the last now decade and a half is that there's been an ongoing civil war in Syria. So it's been chaos more than anything else there for the longest period of time. So we have groups like ISIS that has thrived in Syria. We have the new other terrorist groups that are there. Iran has found a highway through Syria to be able to deliver weapons to Hezbollah. Hezbollah has come in and reinforced Hezbollah. Assad. So the Kurds that are on the eastern part of the nation, we've continued to be able to stand with them because they are more peace-loving and freedom-focused. So it's been total chaos in Syria for now a decade and a half. The challenge now is how do the Syrian people reinvent a nation that's been in so much chaos post the Assad regime? And it is a very dangerous moment for both the Christians that are there and, quite frankly, everyone who is freedom-loving in that area.
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Could this be yet another refugee crisis in the making?
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It could be. Here's the interesting thing. Refugees that were Syrian refugees that had left and gone to Turkey or had gone into Lebanon have started returning back to Syria already. Now, that's just the beginning. That's the earliest days of that. But the Lebanese are seeing a little bit of optimism to say all these refugees that have been here, they may be returning back to Syria as they're trying to be able to rebuild their lives and their nation again. So it's unknown at this point, and that's the challenge as you're praying for peace in the region on this, which is incredibly important to be able to have both for Israel and for all our allies in the area. It's that the freedom-loving, peace-loving folks that were refugees, as they return back, they help build a more peaceful, stable Syria long-term.
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We've been discussing today the northeastern portion of Syria where you have really a very eclectic gathering of people of different religions, different faith backgrounds, but operating and living in peace and harmony. They have been under the thumb, the attacks of Turkey as they've crossed the border there. What do you anticipate their fate will be?
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We have 900 American troops that are in that area in northeastern Syria. They're fighting an anti-ISIS mission. In fact, just in the past couple of days, the United States has taken almost 100 strikes against ISIS stronghold locations since the fall of Assad. So many Americans don't know that the United States is still fighting a war against terrorism and ISIS in particular there. There are literally thousands of ISIS prisoners that are being held in that area in jails that are run by the Kurds. So that is a very important area. The challenge is the Turks consider the Kurds terrorists, and they're at active war against them. And they've had multiple times that they've crossed the border from Turkey into northeastern Syria to be able to attack those forces. So if the United States withdraws, we'll see a proliferation of ISIS through that area. The Turks will actually slaughter the Kurds in that area. So that area is also a very tenuous, very difficult zone that the United States has a national interest in.
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Are you concerned about the influence of Turkey in this vacuum that we now have in Syria?
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I am very concerned about that. Turkey has been actively supporting some of the rebels that have been fighting against Assad because Turkey doesn't want to see the overrun from that into their country. But they're also very active in fighting against the Kurds who they hate, who we actually ally with. So they are a NATO ally. Turkey has been an ally long term. But Erdogan has not been predictable, nor consistent, and nor peace-loving, quite frankly, in this process. He interacts with Russia as much as he interacts with us, though he is a NATO ally. So it is a very difficult time, not only for Syria, but also for the future of that alliance with NATO and with Turkey.
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We just have about a minute left, Senator Lankford. The incoming administration, the Trump administration, what steps do they need to take, in your opinion, to bring greater stability to this region?
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Well, they should do a couple of things. They should tell Russia to be able to get out as Russia has now fled from Syria. They were the one of the major stabilizing forces. They need to tell Iran to be able to get out of Syria. That's not their business. Iran is using Syria as a proxy to then attack Israel. So if we're going to stand with Israel, We need to stand for Iran getting out of Syria and Russia out of Syria. But we also need to stand with those Kurds. If we walk away from the Kurds and they get slaughtered by the Turks, no nation anywhere on earth will partner with the United States for a very long time, because they'll say, you'll stand with us when it's convenient for you, and then when it's not convenient, we'll be slaughtered. And so that will affect our national policy for a very long time. Syria needs to evaluate what happens next with Syria. That's not our country. That's not our war. But we do have an ally there and we should stand with them.
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Yeah, I completely understand and agree. Senator James Lankford, always great to see you. Thanks for joining us today.
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You bet. Good to see you again.
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Well, I talked to many people who have, including the Coast Guard, one of the officers, top people. He said that one of their 47-foot rescue boats the night before, so that's two nights ago, had several, more than a dozen drones following them as they went up and down the ocean.
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And how big are these drones?
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About the size of a car. So these are big. They're big. They're big. And that same night, one of the Ocean County sheriff officers observed 50, five zero, of these things coming from the ocean, across the sand, and into, like, the mainland, suggesting that they're being deployed via a ship. And... I can't believe we had a meeting, you know, a Zoom meeting with our governor in Mayorkas several days ago. And, you know, the governor is saying there's nothing to worry about. We have questions, which how do you know that? Well, that's my question. But Mayorkas himself, it was like he was clueless. So I've asked the Department of Defense. I talked to our joint base commander at the joint base, which is a huge, you know, big three different services and more because there are many, many tenants there, but Army, Navy, and Air Force, about their capability because they can, if a drone goes on there within their defense perimeter, they will bring it down or they'll identify it. And he says, we got the capability. I said, well, we need it. But they haven't used it. They haven't used it. So I've asked, and I was at a hearing earlier today asking the FBI, why aren't you asking the Department of Defense, which has this ability, because the FBI's budget for drones is $500,000, which is, you know, nothing versus the challenge. But the DOD does have that capability. So I'm asking them to... with their own people. They don't want to share with anybody. Well, that's fine. Go and bring some of these things down and find out who they are. And I think we probably will be shocked when we learn China, Putin, or the rest.
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So just to be clear, the news reports, I mean, this has been growing in frequency. And these are not just like somebody's, you know, you buy off Amazon one of these drones. These are the size of cars, some of them the size of SUVs. They're over military installations. They're over electrical power facilities. And the FBI and other reports that I've seen said that the federal government has no idea what these are, but they tell us we don't have to be concerned. It's absurd.
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How is that? That's what I said. How do you know that? You should say, we hope we don't have concerns, but we better investigate.
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Is this like the Chinese balloon that went all the way across the country?
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And this may be much worse. because there are so many of them. They've been deployed. They'll be there tonight somewhere in large numbers. One of the mayors in Toms River, he got reports of like five or six of them showing up in Toms River, which is in my district. But the ones coming across from the ocean, that's really the $64 question. I even asked Mayorkas on that Zoom, Why can't we follow them and figure out what their origination is?
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Don't we have that capability? Do we not know if there's a ship out there that they're coming from? I mean, this is elementary.
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The Coast Guard should be going, or the military, find out if that's what their home base is. And you could run these things out of Beijing or out of Moscow or wherever you want to do it.
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But obviously— We just— It's just foolish. We just recognized the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. Yeah. where, in fact, just down the street here at the National Archives a few years ago, I went into the vault where members can go to see uncirculated documents, and one of those was the plotting chart of the radar station.
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And you know where that was made? In my district, Camp Evans. About an hour before The Zeros bombed the Missouri and all the other battleship row and all the rest. We saw it on the radar screen and translated or sent that into headquarters. And they did do anything? They didn't do anything about it. So we had advance warning. Back then, it was made by district.
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So this seems to be a very serious threat. It could be yet another probe by the Chinese or some other force to see what our response is, just like our failed response with the balloon.
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I still can't believe the balloon situation. I mean, really. You know, back in 1998, I wrote the Embassy Security Act. And when we were hit by al-Qaeda in Dar es Salaam and in Nairobi, I'll never forget, at my hearings, because I held oversight hearings, we had Admiral Crowe, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He spoke and he said, nobody thought they would ever hit there. It was like a soft target. I said, you've got to have some imagination to say, these are very evil people, and they'll find a soft target and they'll take it out. And now we're dealing with something which I find amazing. They're going to infrastructure, critical infrastructure, hovering over there, doing what?
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And so the military is restricted from taking any action.
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They claim that. But, you know, they've got to defend the homeland, don't they? You know, it's not just homeland security.
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I hope they're not going to wait for a call from the White House if hostile forces come over to do something. I know.
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Proactive, find out who they are, ascertain it, and then take deliberate action. If it means shooting a few of them down, they can bring them down. They have the capability.
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Well, if they were flying over south Louisiana, we've got some folks out there that can take them down, too. By the way, I should mention that Congressman Chris Smith has passed, in Congress, he has passed more legislation than any other member of Congress passing, 49 pieces of major legislation, which is quite a significant accomplishment.
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Thank you.
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Because getting Congress to do something, well, you've heard that, like, takes an act of Congress. Well, there's a reason they say that. That's right. Let me, we've got a few minutes left, Congressman Chris Smith. I want to kind of go back to a topic we touched on earlier, and it connects to this topic. If, in fact, this could be the Chinese that are probing our defenses, or they could be behind these drones. Senator Josh Hawley was with us earlier, and talking about threats to the country, and certainly we have some short-term, immediate threats in the Middle East. But long-term, he and I both agree that China poses the greatest threat to our country and to our values. And in many ways, we're funding them. We're funding our enemies. We are.
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I've been speaking out on China even before Tiananmen Square. I had a bill saying that because of forced abortion, a crime against humanity, that was in 1984. But after Tiananmen Square, when Bill Clinton linked human rights with trade, we all applauded him. One year later, he delinked. And that's when the Chinese took the measure of the United States of America and said, all they care about are profits. I'm for profits. But there needs to be linkage. They're an export economy. They can't survive militarily or any other way without American markets. And we're feeding the foe that wishes us to be destroyed. Taiwan, they want to take over because it's an economic powerhouse. They already took over Hong Kong. But the hegemony that they have for the whole region is so real. Just ask the Philippines and the leaders there. They have global ambitions. Xi Jinping is a dictator who fashions himself as Mao Zedong. I chair the China Commission. I've had well over 110 congressional hearings, barred from going to China now. Frank Wolf and I went there several times. They wanted to throw us out every time because we would raise human rights and especially religious freedom. But you have a situation where we armed them. And Bill Clinton, just for the record, when he de-linked trade from human rights, May 26, 1994, that's when we lost China. And I don't know if we ever get it back. I have a bill in now to relink human rights, because again, if they respect fundamental human rights, let's have a trade war with them, not something other than that.
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I made this comment with Senator Hawley. And I say this from my observation, previously chairing the US Commission on International Religious Freedom, As I watched from a distance when that happened in 1994, that was just prior to me getting into the political arena, when we separated human rights from economic activity and trade, it did more to change America than it did China. That's true. In that we now have devalued human rights, really the rule of law, and we have elevated profit at almost any cost.
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Great point. You know, we're admonished in the scriptures, do not be conformed to this world. It's bad enough a more secularized society, but when you conform to a Chinese communist dictatorship or communists anywhere who hate God, hate people, the ruling elite are the only ones who prosper, I should say, in a dictatorship, the devaluation is ever present. Right. On every area. I mean, right now, they're killing people, children, 28-year-olds, to get their organs. I have a bill that passed the House, forced organ harvesting.
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This is a real thing. This has been documented. The U.K. did extensive hearings into this. It was rumored, but they have documented the fact that there is organ harvesting. literally killing people for their organs and selling them on the international market. It's become a tourist activity to come to China to get a heart, to get a liver, to get a organ. that they're taking from oftentimes religious or political prisoners.
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That's exactly what they do. And I even had one of the doctors that did them. And he said one of his victims wasn't even properly anesthetized. And they usually take two to three organs per person, average age 28. I've had four hearings on it, and I just can't believe that we can't get the State Department to do more or the president. And I still can't believe that the Senate is blocking my bill right now, forced organ harvesting,
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What would your legislation do?
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It would do a number of things. It would make sure that anyone who knowingly procures such an organ goes to Shanghai and is knowingly procuring it under less than voluntary circumstances. They're held to account, the brokers, the Chinese leaders that are part of this, starting from the very top, Xi Jinping. We can sanction them so that they can't do business here on any other level. and would require extensive, aggressive reporting by the Department of State, which they haven't done. So it's like they don't want to see it. They don't want to hear about it. They don't want to talk about it. They don't want to have to act on it. And I think they're blocking it over on the Senate side by getting— Let's talk about the—we've just got a couple minutes left.
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But the influence—people don't realize this. I was shocked by this because I, too, have been sanctioned by China. I can't go to China. You and I both. Yeah. So I can't—that slow boat to China that I've always heard about, I can't take it. Right. But China has tremendous influence in our Congress. Oh, yes. Talk about that.
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Well, they often use surrogates. They are in contact, obviously. But they often get many in the business community to do their bidding. They get many in the executive branch to do it. And they do it very effectively. For years, the whole idea was if we just trade more, they will matriculate from a dictatorship to a democracy. I said, you believe that, I'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. It's never happened. We've got to have conditionality that is absolutely ironclad about human rights. And if we did that, we would have had a different China. I have a bill in right now that says, let's relink human rights to trade. And it hasn't passed yet, but I'm going to push very hard for it next year. I mean, look what Bill Clinton did when he brought in . Here's the guy that was the operational commander for Tiananmen Square for the murders that took place there. He goes to the Army War College and says, nobody died at Tiananmen Square. I couldn't believe it. There he is being vetted by Clinton. 19-gun salute. Everybody's marching in front of the White House with him and this now head of their DOD equivalent. He's a murderer. He should be at the Hague for crimes against humanity. So I had people who bore witness to the fact that many people died, including somebody from the People's Daily who tried to report on it, went to prison himself. But it just shows the art of the big lie, and so many people here are willing to buy into it.
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Just about 30 seconds left.
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And the law firms up here, the K Street types, they are so effective at killing things at the committee level. They get a lot of money. Tons of money. A lot of money.
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But what does this do to those that are yearning for freedom that are looking to America?
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It discourages them. They don't think we're a friend. They often don't get the information except through Radio Free Asia and other kinds of surrogate broadcasting, but it doesn't get through to them in many cases because they get nothing but propaganda. I had a famous hearing in 2006 with Google, Microsoft, Cisco, and Yahoo. They're totally...
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misrepresenting you know genesis square and everything else well they've erased that from their history books it's right out there and you go to do a google search in beijing if i did it you can't find it chris smith thanks for joining us today thanks for your leadership well thank you thanks for fighting for faith family and freedom folks thank you for joining us today and until next time i leave you with the encouraging words the apostle paul says when you've done everything you can do when you've prayed prepared and taken your stand by all means keep standing
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And welcome to the Tuesday. It is the two for Tuesday, December the 10th edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunnarsson. And I'm here with Chartered Financial Analyst Barry Kett. We've got a pretty good bounce going on in the NASDAQ today. It had a big sell-off yesterday, especially the momentum stocks. They were down about 2% yesterday. Today, the NASDAQ is up 129, closing in on 20,000. It's at 19,865 right now. But the Dow is down 64 points to 44,338 points. And the S&P 500 is up 8 points to 6,061. The small caps are down about 40 basis points here so far this morning. A little bump higher today in interest rates. They were up 4 basis points this morning. And we're back to 4.22%. We got down to 4.18% yesterday. Crude oil is at 68.31%. It has a demand issue right now. Not a lot of demand coming from China. Gold's got a little bit of life again. It's up 1.1%. The dollar's starting to kind of top out right now. So you might see a rally in gold. maybe we'll look for a trade there and bitcoin right now is down twenty one seventy one to ninety seven thousand seven eighty four so welcome to today's best stocks now show with professional money manager bill ganderson president of ganderson capital management a nationwide fee based only firm and i'm here with barry kite our chartered financial analyst and we did have a sell off yesterday In the tech, in the high tech, in the AI world, The nuclear stocks, which are all kind of bunched together right now. We'll call them the momentum stocks. And there is an ETF that tracks the momentum stocks. I don't know what you've got to do to qualify to become a momentum stock. I'm sure it has something to do with relative strength. But the MTUM ETF was down 2.1% yesterday. Sometimes, like I say most times, just looking at the surface of the market, just looking at the indexes, doesn't really tell the true story because as you looked underneath the indexes yesterday, you saw all the usual suspects. In other words, if you took the top 20 performers in the S&P 500 or the NASDAQ so far this year, they were the ones that got clipped yesterday. It could have had something to do with China, you know, China going after NVIDIA for being a monopoly. I looked at the market share for NVIDIA. About 12% of NVIDIA sales come from China. So I really don't see that as a big thing, but it might have had something to do. And valuations also. I'm starting to see the words... Oh, fluff, extended, expensive coming up. I put a chart in the newsletter on Saturday of both the S&P and the NASDAQ. In fact, four charts for each index showing the historical price to cash flow ratios, price to book value, price to sales, and price to earnings ratios. And you'll see they're closing in on 10-year highs right now. They're not quite there yet, but they're up there in the stratosphere right now. But we are getting a bounce, a pretty good bounce in the NASDAQ today here. so far. Well, that McDonald's in Pennsylvania, Barry, getting a lot of lousy reviews today. Apparently, there's a lot of sympathetic folks that are not fans of the the health insurers, especially United Healthcare, and because that kid Mangione, 26 years old, was found in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, which isn't too far from where we're heard in Pittsburgh on the... The Salem station there, they got a lot of bad reviews yesterday. Food made me sick, blah, blah, blah. And then they usually throw in something about the insurance companies to get their point across. So kind of a weird dynamic taking place right now. There's a lot of folks, obviously, that think what he did was justified, which is kind of crazy. But, you know, there is definitely a backlash against the health insurers out there. All right, so let's take a look here at what's going on in the markets today. We've got some earnings coming in from Oracle and a few others. As I said, the AI and nuclear stocks had a big profit-taking day yesterday. And, again, a lot of that comes from China. Let's see. Dow pulls back from record highs. NVIDIA loses ground. The momentum is definitely starting to cool off. Okay, when did the momentum start? When did the breakout start in the markets? Well, I mean, the day after Trump was elected, right?
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That's the newest leg, yeah.
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It took off. I got up to 1,200 B-plus or better stocks. That's out of 4,800 in my database. So roughly one-fourth of the stocks in my database were B-plus or better. And a lot of that was coming from the momentum side of the equation. Indicative of some breadth to the market. Today it's down to 700. So we've lost about 500 stocks. I still have over 400 A-plus momentum stocks. That's coming down from about 700. We're still at an elevated number. The market is still overheated. But that momentum is still there, although a lot of the air in the tires came out of the momentum sector yesterday. Like I say, that momentum ETF, which I use as a bellwether for that sector, was down 2% yesterday. Let's see. Here's some comments here on McDonald's. This location has rats in the kitchen that will make you sick, and your insurance isn't going to cover it, one user posted. Oh, my. This is very weird. The hostel where Mangione stayed also saw similar negative reviews.
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I mean, you know, at a certain point, you've got to kind of disconnect the person, right, from the industry or from the business, right? I mean, in this sense, I mean, that is what that business is about is delaying. You know, we all know and have been on the wrong side of this equation is, you know, they want to delay as long as they can because they make money. interest off of those dollars uh and also people will just give up yes that's what they want it's really the industry i mean you know you pin it on this you know one particular person in terms of uh you know being murdered is is you know is is outlandish But the industry certainly likely needs to look at itself and do something.
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Don't forget that there's a large industry on the other side of attorneys, every other billboard. Now, mostly that applies to auto insurance, but it also applies to health insurance. I have friends that are in the lawyer industry. And they go after... Well, yeah, if somebody in the hospital comes out worse than when they went in, there is an army now of attorneys and legal. So, I mean, the whole thing has gotten... pretty sticky these days with huge awards from juries going to people on one side.
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And patients are stuck in the middle. I mean, you've got big businesses, big money surrounding care in general, and obviously the patient itself usually ends up being the small person, ends up being the one that gets...
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Yeah, and the other person stuck in the middle is the guys like us who are paying the premiums. Well, and the physicians. Because the premiums have gone up, skyrocketed.
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Yeah, and physicians are waiting. I mean, not only... I talk about delays, right? It's not only delays to... Us as being insured and patients, the other delay in action that a lot of these insurers do is paying the actual service provider, the physician, and that creates another whole set of issues.
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We've got a new team of people coming in across the board. I mean, everybody from Dr. Oz to RFK to others that are going to try to clean up the industry a little bit. I talked to somebody who has a son who works for one of these accident lawyer companies in the Beverly Hills area. And he said they have a quota to meet, okay, of injured people to find. And we know where quotas went in our industry, right? Merrill Lynch and those, they had quotas. And they got a big hand slap and some big fines. for having quoted. So it cuts both ways, you know, I know. But anyways, we'll come back and talk about more companies in the news today. This is the Best Docs Now show. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Boy, the Chinese markets had a huge day yesterday. But, you know, they just never follow through. It was up like 8% or 9%, a lot of the usual suspects. It's usually on some kind of stimulus, and that's what it was. And now it's backing off today, but they're trying to get their economy going. They're doing all kinds of things. Nothing's working so far, but they did pledge to more proactive fiscal measures and looser monetary policy next year. which could revive economic growth and boost energy demand. But that's just all talk right now. We're not seeing it in the results of the Chinese economy. In the meantime, I've got to believe that... trump president trump elect is going to do something about this china's trade surplus surged to 97 billion dollars in november from 69 billion in the same period a year earlier so it's pretty obvious that's a huge increase that's a 50% increase is pretty obvious.
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Well, I guess they're picking up a little bit. Maybe that's showing some activity for China, right? We've been waiting for them to kind of take off since COVID and their failure to launch.
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Well, you know what he had to say to Trudeau up in Canada. You guys are ripping us off. We've got to narrow this trade gap. In other words, you, Canada, you've got to buy more of our products. Imagine what he's going to do to China, where you've got a $97 billion trade deficit, which is up 50% from the same month last year. So obviously this wasn't a high priority in the Biden administration because it exploded here. over the last 12 months. And who do you have as the new sheriff in town? None other than Peter Navarro, who wrote the book Death by China, who continues to eat our lunch as far as we're buying a heck of a lot more of their stuff than they are buying from us. That's the largest trade surplus in five months. And our exports to them slow. So anyways, that's a huge number. I couldn't help but notice that one here this morning. okay let's see we are we got Oracle we'll get to Oracle in a little bit Oracle is an AI wannabe and I think they are in that AI circle we're going to get GameStop today that's always interesting to see how much money they lost Adobe tomorrow Adobe is a pretty big player Costco on Thursday definitely a big player Who lost their contract with Costco? I said, oh, I know. Our friends at Procter & Gamble. No, Kimberly Clark lost the diaper contract with Costco. Oh, really? That's got to hurt. You know, what can I say? A doo-doo happens and Kimberly-Clark loses a big client. We like to kid about Kimberly-Clark because it's such a highly owned stock in the industry. You see it all the time. All the time. In the wire house accounts that transfer over to us, I think some people are at home listening to the show and they look at their portfolio and they see all these stocks we talk about. that the wirehouses love to own. But that's a big loss. We'll have to find out who got the contract. Maybe Costco is going to come up with their own Kirkland brand of diapers. I don't know. Applovency's worst day in two years. Well, you know what? Look, yesterday the biggest winners in the market this year were the biggest losers in the market. And I think Applovin was down about 12%, something like that. But the reason why, it didn't make the cut for the S&P 500. Instead, it was Apollo Group. and workday you know it's been my experience i see those stocks go into the s&p and the dow look at nvidia since it's gone into the dow it really cooled off and uh other stocks that went into the s&p we saw smith microcomputer smci go or super microcomputer uh and recently we saw this tpl texas pacific land which is one of the biggest winners in the It seems like they go in the S&P 500 and they don't take off. Instead, it seems to be kind of a headwind for them when they go into the S&P 500. But anyways, Applovin was not chosen. And Coinbase was another one that was a strong candidate. There's somebody out there, I suppose, that tracks this kind of thing. Who are the next stocks to go into the S&P 500? Instead, it was Apollo Group, which we own in our dividend and growth, and it was Workday, which we don't own. Well, I noticed a nice pop in Boeing yesterday. It seems to be putting in a long bottom, and it's up 5.1% today. I'm surprised that the Dow is down today. Boeing has finally restarted their 737 line. Boeing's up 5.2% right now. That's a huge move. What's holding the Dow down? Caterpillar, 3M, Merck, DuPont, Travelers, McDonald's, Amgen. Okay, plenty of them. But Boeing, that's a good chart on Boeing. Check out that chart. Here's this long sideways base. I mean, this was the NASDAQ back in January of 2023. But the NASDAQ had a lot more momentum building up, I'm sure, than Boeing does. But all of a sudden, Boeing has broke above that ceiling of $163 per share. That's a good lesson there in chart reading. That is a beautiful breakout. Now, we talk about the number four downtrend, and then it levels off like an airplane landing on the runway. into a number one sideways trend. And then think of these airplanes that do touch and goes, right? They land, they go flat for a long time on the runway, and then they take off from that runway. That's a breakout from a number one sideways trend. And if you just think about it from a logic point of view, where's the best place to buy a stock? Well, if it's been going sideways, sideways, sideways, and all of a sudden it breaks out above that. In theory, that could be the beginning of a brand new, you're at the beginning of a number two uptrend. So that's why that is one of my favorite stock patterns in the entire market. And if you're wanting to know what I'm talking about, look at the chart of Boeing today. It's just a beautiful, picture-perfect example of a fresh breakout.
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The problem was the other side of that equation that we look at was the fundamental side, and the fundamental side was the danger point.
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And let's not forget, a sideways trend can also break down and begin a new number four trend, which is also a catalyst to the downside. But right now, you have a catalyst to the upside in Boeing. When we come back, Lily's on the docket next to talk about. This is the Best Stocks Now show. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersenCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. Call out the instigator Because there's something in the air And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Lilly has just been kind of flat here recently. But it is the de facto leader in the weight loss drug with their ZepBound. I have noticed also that Novo Nordisk has got an improving chart. It finally bottomed out at 99%. Now it's back to 110. But Lilly did a lot today. They're going to hike their dividend by 15%. That's pretty big to $1.50 per share. And they approved a $15 billion share repurchase program. I would expect to see a bigger reaction from Lilly. after that. It's only up $1.63 today. It went down yesterday, too, along with those momentum stocks. Lilly was down about 2%, 3%. I think it was down $23 per share yesterday. The valuation still looks great on Lilly. It lacks the momentum side of the equation. The momentum, the relative strength right now is 43 on a scale of 1 to 99. And I'm not quite sure why. It's just kind of dead in the water. You still have that compounding issue. Maybe you've got RFK breathing down the neck of the big pharmas. A lot of the big pharmas have come to a standstill here because of that. So we'll see what goes on. Rocket Labs.
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And by definition, by the way, that RSI being in the mid-range of 100 is... is indicative of being slow. Right, exactly. Relative strength, think of it as average.
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Yes, and I'm sure if you looked at the Best Stocks Now app, you would probably see a momentum grade, I'm just going to look it up here real quickly, of C or C+, something like that. When it had, you know, it was a hot stock there for a long time. If I look at performance, that's under performance of Lilly. The momentum grade, the performance grade is A+. Okay, so that's long term. Right. I mean, over the last five years, 48% per year, market 18. The momentum grade right now is C+, on the Best Docs Now app. So, you know, look, sometimes it takes a catalyst. It takes a catalyst. I think that there's been nothing but good news on it recently. You had the big advantage that it has over Wagovi and Novo Nordisk. Zepbound works a lot better, bigger weight loss. uh... and uh... then you have this news of them doing a big stock so i'm not too worried about it that's that's one of those ones the term that comes to mind here is be patient you know you have to be if you're an investor in a company you're going to go through some ups and downs and what not uh... with these companies over time but uh... you know you're you're interested in that goal three to five years from now And you can't get all hot and bothered every time a stock sells off or has a big consolidation. Look at NVIDIA right now. NVIDIA is totally consolidating after it became the largest stock, the largest market cap. It passed Apple there for a while. And now the stock is definitely consolidating in a sideways number three trend. But at the same time, the valuation still looks very attractive. So it's got the same issue that Lilly has. NVIDIA's got a little better relative strength because it had a big run before it cooled off here. Its relative strength is still 95. It still remains one of the hottest stocks in the market, but since... The last couple of months, it's just kind of going sideways in a 130 to 150 range. Rocket Labs pushes ahead with the Suborbital Hypersonic Technology Initiative for the Department of Defense. Now, the reason that caught my eye, Rocket Labs, number one, I noticed I didn't have it in the app, so I put it in the app today. And number two, This is kind of where Russia, you know, Russia fired that missile back at Ukraine, and it was a hypersonic.
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Yeah, the ballistic.
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Yes, that flies under the radar, right, which is scary. And I listened to about a third of the interview. Tucker Carlson is in Russia. and he interviewed lavrov who's been around he's like uh... putin's right hand man for many years like twenty thirty years And Carlson was talking about the possibilities, one of the possibilities of a nuclear war. I thought, you know, maybe I'll give this a listen. And, you know, Russia's known to detain people, but apparently Tucker Carlson, he's interviewed Putin once, and now he's back interviewing Lavrov. And there were a couple things that really surprised me in that interview. Number one, Lavrov says that Biden has not talked to Putin at all. I mean, which is kind of silly. You know, how do you resolve issues by not talking? That's the worst thing you can do. I'm not talking to you. And anyways, I mean, it seems like Trump at least has a dialogue and Putin has a respect for Trump. But to not even have a conversation about Ukraine seems kind of strange to me. And the second thing that I really woke up and said, what did he just say? He said, you know, you people in America don't take this lightly. Our threat, when America flies in these hypersonic missiles into Russia's midland, we mean it. We're going to strike back with something fierce and don't rule out nuclear. So he said this is not an idle threat. This is real. It just seems reckless to me for Biden to amp this up in the last couple months of his presidency. Seems kind of weird to me that he would do that and put the country at risk of a nuclear, you know, a smaller type of nuclear weapon. Taiwan semiconductor November revenue surges 34%. Well, okay, there's no trouble there in Taiwan with their business. Taiwan Semiconductor, TSM, the stock has had a good year. It's up 91% since the beginning of the year. And we currently don't own it. I worry about the political situation there in Taiwan. You know, now you've got China after a couple Taiwanese companies, NVIDIA, and I think I saw AMD also in there. They do not like Taiwanese. They don't like Taiwan CEOs like Jensen Wang and Lisa Su of AMD, who are cousins. But things seem to be going well at Taiwan Semiconductor, even though that stock, too, it's flattened out. The chip stocks have totally flattened out. So if you say, what's wrong with NVIDIA? Well, you know what? Sometimes you have to look. It's the entire sector. The entire semiconductor sector is consolidating right now after leading the way. Consider that Taiwan Semi is up 81% this year, but it's really cooled off. It's cooled off since mid-October, and I think it's all about the China effect with them being denied access to a lot of these chips. Let's see. Uber Eats teams up with McDonald's. Well, that's pretty big. That's in Canada. Uber has been another stock that's been very soft here recently. Part of that is some cities, Miami gave an exclusive to Google, their Waymo, for the autonomous cars. It seems to be about autonomous cars seems to be the issue with Uber. But, man, Uber's got a lot of, they have a lot of things going for them, including Uber Eats. which continues to grow. And by the way, DoorDash has been hitting new highs here recently. That's one of the strongest stocks in the entire market. So I think Uber is an undervalued stock right now. And I think it probably has to do a lot with the competition coming in from the other autonomous Tesla, the one from Waymo, and now Amazon is in on the act. So anyways, I still like Uber. I think it's a good value. We'll see. We need a catalyst there. Vanguard forms a new advice and wealth management unit. Now, here's a company that is notorious. Their whole thing is indexes, buying indexes. Although they have come around a little bit more to active investments since John Bogle passed away. But he built that company on indexes. Why even try to beat the indexes? They beat 80% of all money managers out there. Well, now they're going to go into the advice and wealth management business. In addition to just supplying, and I'm sure they will advise you to use indexes, Vanguard indexes in your plan, right, Perry? We'll be right back.
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Go where you want to go, do what you want to do with whoever you want to be. Go where you want to go, do what you want to do with whoever you want to be.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of the Best Stocks Now show. Best performing ETFs year to date. You know, I was interviewed several weeks ago by Granite Shares ETFs, the CEO. and by a guy that is on Seeking Alpha, and I've gotten to know him a little bit on X, Twitter, and I went on their show. You can find it on X somewhere, I guess. I'm trying to think of the name of the guy. who interviewed me, I can't think of his name right now, Granite Shares has the number one performing ETF year to date. And they take an interesting approach, Barry. The number one ETF is NVDL. Okay, why is that interesting? What's unique about it? They own one stock. And it's double. It's two times NVIDIA. So it's a 408% year to date. The number two ranked.
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The power of leverage.
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Yes, the number two ranked is Direction Shares. They have an NVIDIA bull two times. Now, I'm surprised that you can actually get permission for an ETF that is one stock. I mean, that totally defies the whole concept behind exchange-traded funds. But it's basically you're buying NVIDIA on margin, 2 to 1. The number 3 ranked ETF is Granite Shares 2 times Meta. Okay, it's up 143% so far this year. And I bring this up, I received an invitation yesterday saying, to go to a bell-ringing ceremony in New York in about two weeks, maybe one week or so. Have you ever been up there to the New York Stock Exchange?
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Yeah, I haven't been to the exchange, certainly haven't rang the bell, and haven't been there during the Christmas season either.
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No. Well, I'm afraid I'll get my bell rung up there in New York. I don't know. New York's not the same place that I used to visit. But I'm thinking about it. to the dow which is a big deal to go to the opening bell ceremony to the dow but i'll let you know and maybe you can look for me there uh my wife and i might head up there for that thing from granite shares i appreciate them inviting me and who knows Then just a few others. You've got a CoinShare ETF. I mean, ETFs, there's all kinds. Bitcoin and Ether, that's up 107%. Bitcoin Futures up 123%. Tesla, how about Tesla? I think it's a two-to-one ETF up 127%. So, you know, and I've even looked into, I have an acquaintance that puts ETFs together. And he asked me for some ideas that I might have. And he says, if you have a good idea, we'll put together an ETF for you. And my idea back then was the EVs, the technology, autonomous, batteries, everything, the car revolution taking place. I never did do it. But it might be interesting. If I were going to do an ETF today, it would be on our portfolios, Barry, because it would give them access. to the general public, right?
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And then you could purchase in whatever, in that case, you could purchase in whatever increment that you wanted. I mean, usually, you know, it's an easier starting point, right?
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Now, one other story I want to mention here in the last few minutes. I looked into an ETF. I asked you about it. It was VYXZ, right? It was... It's democratizing investments in venture capital. And the ETF allow, in that ETF is exposure to all of these startups, the best. The biggest and the best. But here's the problem. Okay, there's a thing called net asset value. Okay, so when you buy, this is a closed-end fund. So this especially comes to the fore with closed-end. You're paying twice what the people on the street are paying for it. I mean, the big venture capitalists are paying for it. Because there's so much demand for this ETF that you're paying double. For these startups, so you've got this huge premium that you've got to overcome. That makes it a terrible investment.
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And I guess you do get some liquidity, given that it's in an ETF, but still that can also end up being an issue. Well, you can trade it, right? If everybody runs for the door in times of crisis, that liquidity could potentially dry up, right? Because they wouldn't be able to generate the needed liquidity.
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So let's just say that one of their stocks is OpenAI in that venture capital ETF. Well, let's say OpenAI is trading at a valuation of... uh... uh... fifty billion well you're paying a hundred book that for that inside that he t f or that's not an etf it's a closed and fun so whenever you buy a closed and fun you want to look at where it trades the sum of the to ask me and the bid ask bread matters because you could be paying at a premium in this sense you're paying a a a significant premium over net asset value would be like if a mutual funded if if all the stock actual fun were worth
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you know, a million bucks and you're paying two million bucks for it or whatever.
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Okay, now I want to close with this one. This is brought to you by our Jeff Webster, one of my vice presidents here at Gunderson Capital Management. He forwarded me an article saying, hey, you've got someone out there calling this the new, the next NVIDIA. It's called Rigetti Computing. And we actually brought it to your attention not too long ago. RGTI I remember there was a picture on the Yankees, Dave Rigetti. I think it's spelled the same way. I'm sure there's no link. But Rigetti computing is up 27% today. I did add it to my app a few weeks ago. But there's one to put on your watch list, RGTI. I haven't read the article yet. I just saw the headline today. about some big firm out there saying this is the next NVIDIA. Everybody's driving in their cars going, what is it? Well, look, it's just an article out there. I'm bringing it to your attention. But it has gone to a billion dollars very quickly since their IPO, RGTI Rigetti Computing. Well, the four-week trial is still on, GundersenCapital.com. And if you want to set up an appointment with us, get your portfolios positioned right before the beginning of a new year. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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In this episode, Kim Munson thoughtfully uncovers the hidden forces shaping our political landscape. Engaging with renowned guests, she addresses current acts of legislation that threaten to impinge on individual freedoms. Through candid dialogue with Rebecca Kelty, the conversation highlights the significance of securing substantial victories in elections. Furthermore, Kim draws connections between noteworthy historical events and our present regulatory environment. From substantial economic discourses to key headlines making waves, the show promises a comprehensive review of today's pressing matters.
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It's the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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That seems to me like government is establishing a religion.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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If you give people rights, women's rights, gay rights, whatever, there can't be equal rights if there are special rights.
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Today's current opinions and ideas.
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Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to The Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe.
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Happy Tuesday, Kim.
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Yeah, it's a little icy out there. So allow a little extra time for your travels today until the sun comes out and melts some of this ice out there. But let's get into it. We've got a great show planned for you again today. Check out the website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. Thank you to all of you who support us. And we're on live 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 in the evening. And that is on all KLZ 560 platforms. which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. As you know, on this show, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives via force. Force can be a weapon, but it can be policy, an unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. The World Economic Forum's agenda, and all this is connected. The globalist elites, the United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, this Colorado governor, the World Health Organization. Land use codes and zoning regulations, force fees. And we're seeing now, as we talked to Joshua Lowenstein, like monument designations, conservation easements. I guess I need to add all that in there. Let me make a note here. Because the list is going on and on, and we need to reduce that list. Remember, if something is a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it on the show. We focus on the issues, and we will mention the people that are pushing these issues. But we're working really hard to stay out of all the personalities and all the kind of eighth-grade girl stuff that can happen. And so we're really trying diligently on that. Our word of the day, I've been wanting to use this word for several days, is ostensible. And it is appearing or claiming to be one thing when it is really something else. And I'm thinking in particular, those that are trying to, now it's incrementally, take away our Second Amendment rights, our rights to protect ourselves and our families against bad actors. And ostensibly, they are trying to limit our access to firearms and ammunition, ostensibly, to have safer communities but what it's really about is disarming the population so ostensible is o-s-t-e-n-s-i-b-l-e and you should be able to use that in a sentence today That is your challenge. Our quote today is from Henry Hazlitt because producer Joe and Susan Kochevar and I will be doing a roundtable on his book, Economics in One Lesson. And Yvonne Paez might... weigh in on that as well. And Luke is under the weather. Producer Luke is under the weather, so he will not be joining us today. So Henry Hazlitt was born in 1894. He died in 1993. He was an American journalist, economist, and philosopher known for his advocacy of free markets and classical liberal principles. Over a career spanning more than seven decades, Hazlitt wrote extensively on business, economics, and public policy for prominent publications, including the Wall Street Journal, Hold on here. The Nation, the American Mercury, Newsweek, and the New York Times. And he's best known for his 1946 book, Economics in One Lesson, a work grounded in the Austrian school of economics and the importance of individual liberty and economic decision making. And this is his quote. The real solution to the problem of poverty consists in finding how to increase the employment and earning power of the poor. It's pretty much common sense, I would say. But sometimes there's not a lot of common sense in public policy. Because many times it's more about control. The show does come to you because of our sponsors. One of those great sponsors is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great place to get together with friends for lunch or a happy hour. And how I got to know them, it is a very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and those pesky PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that try to control things. So check that whole story out at my website. I've got a lot of this day in history, and so I will probably pepper some of these things in throughout the show. But the first thing on this day in history, and I looked to this website on this day, in 1520, Martin Luther publicly burns the Popple Edict, demanding that he recant. And his speech at the Diet of Worms, I think that's how you say it, is also known as the Here I Stand speech, is considered one of the greatest pieces of oratory in world history. It was given in response to the council's questions on whether Luther would stand by his doctrine or recant. His refusal to recant is a classic defense of personal freedom. And he ended the speech with this. He says, here I stand. I cannot do otherwise. God help me. Amen. So that was in 1520. In 1672, New York Governor Lovelace announces the monthly mail service between New York and Boston. monthly mail service. Here, with email, we can have instant communication. And so I thought that was pretty amazing. In 1864, General Sherman's armies reach Savannah and a 12-day siege begins. And in 1869, Women's suffrage or the right to vote was granted in the Wyoming Territory, was the first in the United States. And then in 1884, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain is first published in the UK and Canada and was published in the U.S. in 1885 due to a printing error. Some of the headlines, and this is a big one. And that is that Daniel Penny, you know him, the Marine veteran, was acquitted of criminally negligent homicide after a more serious manslaughter charge was dismissed. And this is from CNN. And it says a Manhattan jury found Daniel Penny not guilty Monday in the death of Jordan Neely, Jr. not guilty of criminally negligent homicide, in the death of Jordan Neely on a New York City subway last year. Penny also previously faced a more serious second-degree manslaughter charge, but Judge Maxwell Wiley dismissed it Friday at the request of prosecutors after jurors twice told the court they could not come to a verdict on the count. The article goes on to say, Penny, who is a 26-year-old former Marine, would have faced up to four years in prison for a criminally negligent homicide conviction and up to 15 years for the manslaughter conviction. There was applause in the courtroom as the not guilty verdict was read aloud. Penny locked eyes with the members of the jury that acquitted him, nodding in thanks. A smile was visible on his face. And it went on to say that for over 18 months, our client has lived under the weight of a criminal indictment, all the while guilty. guilty of nothing more than trying to protect his fellow New Yorkers from a psychotic madman with a history of violence, Penny's attorney, Tom Kinoff, said in a statement Monday. Today, the Manhattan jury has spoken, and the misguided prosecution of Daniel Penny will go down as a sad chapter in the history of New York criminal justice. Neely's father, who was present in the courtroom for the verdict, was escorted out of the courtroom after an audible outburst of expletives. My friends, as I have mentioned before on the show, I used to go back to New York regularly because I was in the ladies' clothing business. And it can be very scary on a subway. And to have someone such as Jordan Neely, who apparently was making threats and here described as a madman, would be quite scary. And my understanding is he was threatening others as well. And so instead of Daniel Penny being a criminal, he was a hero. And the people that he protected, I saw on the news last night that there were those that were trying to make this all out about race. And quite frankly, it was not about race. It was about one human protecting other human beings from a very dangerous threat. human being and preventing that one from hurting everybody else. So Daniel Penny is a hero, and it is really unconscionable that they would even bring any charges. He should have received a medal instead of a... Whoops, sorry, I thought I lost you for just a minute. You should have received a medal instead of being charged for a crime. A couple of other things. As Pam Long had mentioned last week, this is a travesty that at Fort Carson here in Colorado, for our soldiers, the food is scarce and the quality is crummy. And so Pam Long has put together a list of people to contact regarding remedying this problem. And we will be sending out an email with that complete list on Thursday. So stay tuned for that. And then Josh Lowenstein was on yesterday regarding this very subtle land grab, the link issue. designation habitat which would be millions of acres and that information on who to contact he emailed that over and we will include that in the summary that Zach will publish a little bit later today so you can go to my website click on the image for today's show the summary will come up and all of that information will will be available and next thing I wanted to mention was I Oh, OK. So, OK, we've got a few little technical difficulties, but I want to get to Rebecca Kelty. She is has been is no longer a candidate for House District. And Rebecca, I'm drawing a blank. Which House District is it?
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16?
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House District 16. OK, this was a real nail biter, but the recount is complete. So tell us what happened.
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Sure. Good morning. And yes, it is complete. Thank goodness. It came down to a recount. After the recount, it came down to the campus board decision on some of the ballots that had been assigned to my opponent, which shouldn't have been because they were overvotes or bad votes where someone crossed it off. And for some reason, the machine gave it to her. And once they took those votes away, I came out ahead as the winner. So, yay.
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Okay. So the election has been certified?
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Yep, election's been certified. The Secretary of State has announced it. We have swearing in will be on January 8th.
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I'm sorry, I missed you there on that, Rebecca. So it's certified, and so what's the next steps?
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The next steps will be, well, it's been certified. The next steps really will just be the swearing in, and that happens on January 8th.
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Okay, and that's the first day that the state legislature convenes, correct? Correct.
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Correct. Yeah. There's one more orientation for the newbies. And on that Monday and then the 8th, we get sworn in and then we get to business. We start trying to make things better for Colorado.
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OK, well, this race is very important because this helped prevent a super majority in the House of Representatives here in Colorado, because if they had that super majority, they could ram through just about anything they wanted to. Correct.
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Correct. They still have the majority, so they still have the upper hand. But this way, you know, they're not able to just we have a better voice at the table. You know, they have to talk to us more. You know, we have to negotiate on bills and stuff like that, although they still do. They have the majority. So really, Republicans in the state of Colorado have more work to do. Oh, my gosh. This is not the end. This is the beginning, and we're chipping away, and we need to get to work now.
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You know, we really do. And, Rebecca, a volunteer gig that I have is I'm president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And it's an all-volunteer group that has, since 1976, watched legislation that is scheduled for hearings at the statehouse and then reviewed that legislation and taken positions, yes, no, or do not rate. And I need to mention this great group. They're all volunteers. And when you see them, tell them thank you. That's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honiger, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, and Mary Jansen. And we hope as we – then what we'll do is we will take a – we'll create an e-mail. with those positions. And we will send that to all of the legislators and the governor and our members. And we hope that that will be a tool that will be helpful in your toolbox and other legislators' toolboxes as you're looking at this legislation that's being proposed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Perfect. No, that's great, because I think a lot of us need a little bit of a tool to be able to use to gauge things, too, because you get slammed with so many bills. Last year, I think they had over 700. I know. It's an insane amount of bills. It's a firehose type of situation, and I think something like that would definitely help.
SPEAKER 18 :
And so we, again, hope that'll be a great tool in your toolbox. What's the first thing that you want to accomplish when you get down to the statehouse, Rebecca Kelty?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I do know one of the things I would like to go back and do, and it seems like they never seem to do it, is to go back and look at some of these older bills, you know, that they passed in the last one to five, ten years. and see what they've broken. You know, they never go back and try to fix the things that they've broken. They just slam through new bills and new bills. And Colorado's not that broken, you know what I mean? But some of the bills that they have passed have broken us. So let's go back and see what you've broken and try to fix some of those things before we just start, you know, spending more money and spending more money. Let's start cutting some of that.
SPEAKER 18 :
And I did see a headline that state agencies have more cash than they're supposed to. So government, when government has more cash than it's supposed to, that means that they've taken it from the people. And so we need to lower taxes and lower regulations. I'm hearing of different bills that might be coming down the pike this next legislative session that would be very onerous to personal freedom. and our rights under the Bill of Rights. So I know you're going to have your hands full, but you've got some other great people to work with as well down at the Statehouse.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's a good thing I carry the Constitution with me pretty much everywhere I go. So we need to stick to that. If we stick to that, we can't go wrong. And our personal freedoms and our money, let's keep it in our pockets. There's no better situation than allowing the people to have the money in their pockets to where they choose where they want to spend it. So governments are far too large, and that needs to be fixed.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I'm very excited about you winning this election. This is really great for House District 16, which encompasses a large portion of Colorado Springs, yes?
SPEAKER 07 :
It does. And you know what? I got to say, this election was an all hands on deck election. It wasn't just a Rebecca Kelsey win. This was an entire. the state of Colorado win, and that right there should motivate everyone, every Republican in the state, that we do have a voice, we have a choice, and when we put our heads together, we can win, and that's exactly what happened here.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, that is so exciting, so I congratulate you, Rebecca Kelty, and I know you were diligent in this campaign, and way to go. Congratulations.
SPEAKER 07 :
Kim, thank you. And thank you for what you do.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. And again, Rebecca Kelty, much congratulations to her for winning that House District 16 race. And I wanted to mention another headline here. This is from the Center Square. It says, the deficit is soaring as Biden heads out the door. And As they are spending all of this money and just passing it out to cronies, basically creating money, what that does is it creates more and more inflation, which means that the dollar in your pocket is worth less. And so it's really a silent thief. So this is from the Center Square, and it said the latest federal numbers show the U.S. deficit is soaring as President Joe Biden heads out of office. The U.S. Congressional Budget Office released its monthly budget review on Monday, which showed that in the first two months of this fiscal year, the federal government has run up a deficit of $622 billion. That amount is $242 billion more than the deficit recorded during the same period last fiscal year, the CBO said in its report. That figure means the deficit is nearly 40 percent higher than this time last year. The most alarming turkey in November was the federal government's inability to live within its means, Maya McGinnis, president of the Committee for Responsible Federal Budget, said in a statement. We are only two months into the fiscal year and we have already borrowed a staggering $622 billion with $365 billion in the month of November alone. Deficits never surpassed $1 trillion before the COVID-19 pandemic. Since then, they remain well above $1 trillion and for this next fiscal year are well beyond the pace to surpass $1 trillion. My friends, this is not sustainable. The deficit last fiscal year was $1.8 trillion. Billionaire Elon Musk is now an advisor to President-elect Donald Trump, lamented that the debt, which is about 36 trillion on his X feed on Monday. My friends, we've got to get a handle on this. This is not OK. OK, we're having some technical difficulties today, so I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do. So I think I'll go to another headline here. And let's see the next thing. Oh, I would watch this part of this interview last night on one of the news shows. This is from the Western Journal. And it says the NBC anchors caught deceptively altering the 14th Amendment in the Trump interview. It says NBC Meet the Press host Kristen Welker left out a key portion of the 14th Amendment when she challenged President-elect Donald Trump on his plans to end so-called birthright citizenship by executive order. In the interview, which aired Sunday, Welker asked, you promised to end birthright citizenship on day one. Is that still your plan? Yes, absolutely, Trump responded. The 14th Amendment, though, says all persons born in the United States are citizens. Can you get around the 14th Amendment with an executive action? Welker followed up. Currently, when illegal aliens have children in the country, federal policy has been to recognize them as U.S. citizens. And, well, we're going to have to get a change, Trump answered to Welker. And she again questioned if Trump would do so through executive action. Well, if we can through executive action, Trump said. But in his Agenda 47 plan put out last year, Trump explained that he would issue an executive order on the subject that will explain the clear meaning of the 14th Amendment, that U.S. citizenship extends only to those both born in and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. So my understanding after conversations with Rob Nadelson and other reading is that in the 14th Amendment, the allegiance... of the country that the parents have. So if someone is here, either legally or illegally, but their allegiance is to another country and their children are born here, then because of that, their children really are not citizens. So this is going to be super interesting as we see what happens with that. And then another headline here that was, I thought, pretty super interesting, and that is that federal employees are scrubbing their social media accounts of any negative posts about Donald Trump as they scramble to save their jobs. Hey, if you feel strongly about something, you should have the guts to stand behind it. And it says thousands of civil servants are taking steps to protect themselves from plans to slash the number of federal employees promised by Trump and his allies, according to The Washington Post. Some federal employees are removing posts from X and Facebook, with one official who testified in Trump's first impeachment inquiry considering filing retirement papers as others are taking steps to move to possibly safer agencies. Recruiting firms in the nation's capital have seen an increase in business from those looking for work in the private sector. Some agencies have taken action to reclassify some jobs with titles that go against the Trump agenda, such as those including diversity, equity and inclusion, environmental justice, and those looking to address the climate crisis. Some civil servants are taking out liability insurance for the first time in case they need attorneys if they're demoted or fired. Departing Biden administration appointees are working with labor unions to extend collective bargaining agreements securing benefits before the second Trump administration can take action to remove them. So it looks like they're trying to sabotage a lot of the Trump agenda. And then, again, these people, if you felt strongly enough to make a statement on it, then I think that you need to stand behind it. And, okay, I think that we're going to go to break. And so I did want to mention the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. Give them a call at 303-795 for a complimentary appointment. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I am helping you with some gift ideas for this holiday season. And a great gift would be to give the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado, on the beautiful Riverwalk. It is a lovely gift of quotes from many of our Medal of Honor recipients that will inspire you and help you to be able to sit and reflect this holiday season as well. So it is just a great gift. You can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Danielle Jarensky, and she is a city councilwoman in Aurora. And she has been very concerned about the safety of the citizens of Aurora. And she was really the one that shed some light on some of these Venezuelan gangs that were misbehaving, we might say. So, Danielle Jarensky, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me, Kim. This has been ongoing and, of course, it received national attention when now President-elect Trump was on the campaign trail and came to Aurora to talk about Operation Aurora. And you set this up. I think most people know this, but you'd been contacted by... some residents in Aurora that were very concerned about gangs that had taken over their apartment building, and you realized that you needed to help those people get out of that dangerous situation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's right. Well, this all really started back in June when it was the Venezuelan presidential election. And all of a sudden, about 5,000, it's believed that all or most of them were Venezuelans, descended upon an area in Aurora, a Target shopping center at Mississippi and Havana that ended up spilling out into the streets and other parts of the shopping area and the intersection. And I, for the life of me, could not figure out how 5,000 people could gather in under an hour without any sort of law enforcement detection. And APD at that time wanted to paint this as just a peaceful gathering. They just want to celebrate the outcome of the Venezuelan election. But it wasn't Multiple crimes committed, people shooting guns off in the air, a police car shot at, a Target employee assaulted. All of the liquor and alcohol in Target was completely ransacked and taken. The McDonald's employees fled the McDonald's because the McDonald's was essentially taken over for the bathroom. This is when I started making a lot of noise. And it was after I started making this noise that police officers started coming to me directly and saying, Danielle, you've got to know the truth behind this. This isn't just how many of them are here. You need to know who's here. And that's when I was told about Trendy Aragua, this notorious Venezuelan prison gang. And it just blew my mind. And officers started telling me about the calls that they were going on. And they started specifically telling me about these three apartment complexes. I rolled that back. I'm the chair of the Public Safety Committee for the city of Aurora. I went to my committee meetings and I started asking questions. And when I started asking questions, all I was told about was code enforcement violations and a slumlord. That's all I was told about. I tried to be the voice for the officers and tell them, listen, I have officers coming to me. telling me that this is what's going on. These are the calls they're going to. They can't respond to these apartment complexes without three or four officers and an armored vehicle. That doesn't sound like code enforcement violations to me. Well, the rhetoric continued, the denying, the gaslighting, the downplaying continued. One day I get a phone call from Vicente Arenas, Fox 31 News reporter. He said, Danielle, you've got to come meet me. I said, oh, you know, what's his story? And he said, you've got to come meet me. So I go and I meet him, and he says, hey, listen, I've listened to how vocal you're becoming about this situation in Aurora with the Zender's Leland prison gang and everything going on in these apartment complexes. He said, I've got to show you something. He showed me that viral video. He showed it to me. He already had it. The reason he already had it is because it's going to be interesting. Edward Romero were so fed up, so tired of calling 911 hundreds of times and nobody coming, they started reaching out to news tip lines, to local media news desk tip lines. And Vicente Arenas followed up on it. So he said to Vicente, he said, why are you coming to me? And he said, well, Danielle, he said, I know you'll do something about it. I know you'll do something about it. I said, oh, my God, Vicente. So he and I made an agreement that he would not release that video footage until I had a fair chance to get the Romeros out into safety. I ended up having to get another gentleman out as well. Went in, moved them out. The viral video footage came out. The story about the Romeros came out. The rest has kind of been history unfolding before our very eyes, but it did go very viral, reached the attention of President Trump, and he came to Aurora and met with me, as well as Tom Holman and Congressman from Texas, Chip Roy.
SPEAKER 18 :
Wow. So that all happened in October, right? And Trump is taking this very seriously. What was that conversation like with all of them? And were you the only people in the room or were there other people in there as well?
SPEAKER 04 :
When I spoke with President Trump, for the most part, it was just a one-on-one between he and I. Cindy Romero did come in towards the end just to tell him a part of her story. and uh with tom with tom holman and chip roy uh they came into aurora and we kind of had an aurora round table warren bobert was at the table one of my colleagues cindy romero was at the table and we had a conversation about this um they of course wanted to make it more national i naturally wanted to make it all about aurora um but the conversation was great and it was much needed. I did speak to Tom Holman one on one. I did speak to Chip Roy one on one. Chip Roy, when he was in town, he and I did a national Fox News interview together side by side. So, you know, conversations are happening. And as you can see, you know, as far as I'm concerned, President Trump's term started the day after he was elected. So his term started last month, as far as I'm concerned, with everything you're seeing going on.
SPEAKER 18 :
So how is it that Aurora got all of these Venezuela gang members? Is it because Denver is a sanctuary city? But how did Aurora get the gang members?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, it really, it does center around Denver being a sanctuary city. And as you saw, right, as we saw, and you can't really fault Governor Abbott. All of these folks coming across the border, he was not allowed to secure the border. We had wide open borders. Well, it was just too many. So Governor Abbott started busing them to New York, Chicago, Denver, all of these major cities across the country that came out and said, we love migrants, we support migrants, migrants are welcome here. So Governor Abbott said, here you go, and started sending them by the busload. Well, what Denver turned around and did is they funneled a whole— The city of Denver and the state of Colorado, because the state of Colorado created what is called an office of newcomers, state office of newcomers, something along those lines. And all of this money was funneled into NGOs. These NGOs then took it upon themselves to start housing and putting these folks in apartment complexes themselves. in Aurora. There is some gray area. You know, you see, I don't know if you've seen, but I'm really going after these NGOs. I'm going after Denver. I'm going after the state. We have multiple core requests out because I want to track this down because it is my understanding that there's really a lot of misclarity here. These apartment complexes were told that these folks had jobs. They were told, you know, different things and the help that they were going to be provided. When, in fact, that wasn't the case. As soon as the NGOs placed these people, they essentially bailed. But, yes, it is out of the city of Denver. It is nonprofits, NGOs out of the city of Denver that placed all of these folks in Aurora.
SPEAKER 18 :
Can you name some of these NGOs, these non-governmental agencies that are being paid government money to do the bidding of the government?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the main one is Vive Wellness. That is the main one. Folks have some eyes on Village Exchange. Not sure about that one yet. Not sure about that one yet. Vive Wellness. And the other one, there's a second one. I've spoken all about it, and now I'm drawing a blank. There are two. There are two. Oh, Papagayo. Papagayo. Papagayo and Vive Wellness.
SPEAKER 18 :
And so they're receiving government grant money to locate these people in Aurora, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I don't know that they still are, but this is what they did. I don't know if they're still receiving funding. I don't know if they're still placing people. My guess, Kim, is nobody wants to come anywhere near Aurora at this point anymore, with me lurking over here.
SPEAKER 18 :
When you say no one wants to come, you mean any of the Venezuelan gangs or placing migrants in Aurora, right? Is that what you mean?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, any of the NGOs, Mike Johnson, Jared Polis, any of the Venezuelan migrants. I don't think anybody wants to come near Aurora and pick that fight.
SPEAKER 18 :
So one voice, one woman, one voice. It is amazing what you have done here. What about I know that when this was all breaking, that Jared Polis and the governor of Colorado, the governor or the mayor of Aurora, they were trying to downplay this because it does give Aurora a black eye. And so tell us where that where where's all that now?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you know, everybody right now, I mean, everybody's become pretty quiet. You don't hear the governor trying to deny it in the way that he was. But he did. He came out ferociously. He said that this was a feature, I quote, a feature of my imagination. And Mayor Kaufman, it's unfortunate that he did flip-flop several times.
SPEAKER 18 :
And so you said that, Jared Polis said that this whole Venezuelan gang thing was a feature of your imagination. And then Mayor Kaufman, what was his reaction?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Mayor Kaufman, you know, it's gone back and forth with him a couple times, which is unfortunate. He has flip-flopped his stance. But he knows the truth. He ultimately knows the truth. I think he's just trying to figure out, you know, right now how to do some damage control in the city of Aurora because it has brought a black eye. But I can tell you, I refuse to remain silent for an image. I refuse. Not while people are suffering and being raped and sex trafficked and murdered, fingers chopped off and people kidnapped and... I refuse to remain silent to protect an image.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, so things are changing in Aurora as far as getting this whole thing, I think, cleaned up, if you will. So what about Trump's Operation Aurora? What is that exactly? I imagine it's the national program, but being the great marketer that he is, since this Venezuelan gang thing really, the story broke in Aurora, then he's calling it Operation Aurora. So tell us about that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, can I, and I'm going to remain consistent here, I'm not going to comment on that a whole lot because I don't know. I don't know. I had a conversation with President Trump. I've had a conversation with Tom Holman. But I don't know what Operation Aurora really means. I believe help is on the way. I believe that wholeheartedly. But I'm not going to really comment on that. how operation is going to play out because I don't know.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. Fair enough. Now, you're the chair of, like, the Public Safety Committee or something there in Aurora, right? Correct. Okay. Are you getting – well, I saw a report that at the November meeting you said that things are going to be changing in Aurora regarding these Venezuelan gang members coming into Aurora. Are you getting support, pushback from your fellow council members, the chief of police? What's the temperature of everybody there?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I'd say it's about 50-50, to be honest with you. You know, I'd say it's about 50-50 because, no, it's really we're trying to expect the unknown. And so nobody really knows what any of this means. But, you know, what is concerning to me is it seems like I am the only one who has any sort of contact and have had any contact with the incoming administration. You know, it is no secret that Mike Kaufman and President Trump are got into a big fight a few years back. They both came out against each other publicly. So it's unfortunate that the mayor isn't at the helm of all of this. And I'm trying to deal with it. But, you know, there is support there. But like I said, right now, we're all just kind of in a mode where we're just batting down the hatches and waiting to see what's coming.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think that you've said with you being so vocal about this, and I think I saw a headline that they're going to close these apartment buildings that had been overtaken by Venezuelan gangs. That doesn't seem like the answer. Are they going to close them, clean them up, and then the owner can re-rent them? Do you know about that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, this has been a big old game, Kim. This all started in July. The city went in and abated, shut down Nome. The Nome Street Apartments, due to living conditions, this was the whole slumlord narrative. Unfortunately, the gang was not addressed at that time, so they went and shoved themselves further into the Whispering Pine Complex and the Dallas Street Apartments. Some of the ownership agreed to turn the Whispering Pines over to court receivership, so it is back in control of the bank. I pretty much, working with the receiver, have Whispering Pines under control and in a much more peaceful environment. The Dallas Street Apartments, it's six different buildings. I'm sorry, five different buildings owned by different folks. One of the buildings went into court receivership, same court receivership that Whispering Pines is under. The other five buildings, the owners are refusing to turn it over to the bank, turn it over to court receivership. So the city has decided for those other four buildings to criminally nuisance them, and the property owners are not pushing back on that because they want the building shut down. They want these people thrown out so that they can regain their property.
SPEAKER 18 :
So forcing these apartment building owners into receivership means that they would lose their property, yes? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. Well, correct. For the time being, I don't know what the deals are on the other side. Once these complexes get under control, I don't know. I don't know. And I and I again, I'm going to remain consistent on that. That's not something that I will comment on. But, you know, the city. The city is going to go ahead and shut down these remaining four buildings. I don't know where all of these people have gone. The migrants have pretty much well packed themselves into these remaining buildings. So we're going to have nonprofits come out screaming and yelling. You know, this is going to be really, really something, really something. And you know what? I am just on the countdown six weeks from today, President Trump's first second. And we will see. We will all learn together what this means.
SPEAKER 18 :
And one other thing regarding the migrants, these Venezuelan gangs, my understanding is typically they prey upon people that are here illegally because that have come here, well, that are not part of the Venezuelan gang. Let's just put it that way. So they prey on those that are here that don't want to be doing additional crimes other than coming across the border illegally. But they prey upon these people. And these people, since they are here illegally, are reticent to report it. And so it makes it very, very dangerous. It's not compassionate to bring people here illegally and put them into this position.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it's terrible. It started out as they were preying upon Americans, kicking their doors and throwing them out of their apartment complexes, beating up the staff, holding them at gunpoint, telling them they wouldn't return at work. But then once they gained control of the complexes, you're right. They very quickly turned their crime spree onto other migrants that are here also illegally because a couple reasons. They're easier targets, and they're very scared. They are very scared to call 911 themselves.
SPEAKER 18 :
Wow. Okay, Danielle Cherinsky, we have just about a minute left. Throughout history, there are people that saw a wrong and they stepped forward to make it right. And that is, I think, really the human spirit. And I imagine you never thought that you would be in this position, but you're doing the right thing. And as my dad always said to me, there's never a wrong time to do the right thing. So what's your final thoughts you'd like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. All I can say through all of this is through all of the attacks, the smear stories, the lying, the gaslighting, the denying, trying to make me out to be a crazy person. I have no regrets. I have no regrets. I've met these people personally. I've held them. You know, we've cried together. Their stories are real. This goes so far behind. And Kim, on your show, I want to say this specifically to Republicans. I am so far beyond their status. I am so far beyond their status because I have witnessed actual human suffering, actual human suffering. That is where we are at. We are not at whether these people are here illegally or not illegally. We have allowed actual real third world countries suffering on American soil. And everyone sat by, everyone sat by and did nothing. So I went in alone. But I'll tell you, I have no regrets, Kim, and that's what I have to leave you with.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, my gosh. Danielle Jurinsky, I just got chills on that. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this. This is so important. And, Danielle Jurinsky, I've got to think that from a public policy standpoint, there are much bigger things on the horizon for you. So thank you. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Kim. Have a wonderful day.
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SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we've had a morning of technical difficulties, and so thank you for hanging with us here. I wanted to make sure that I say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is because of these sponsors that are independent voices on the air. But we've had technical difficulties. I tell you, Joe, you've got such a great attitude. Even when everything is falling apart, you don't fall apart. And I so appreciate that about you. It's my pleasure.
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I was always just taught that things are going to go worse if you just panic.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, it's been a morning. We have four stations here at Crawford Broadcasting out of these studios, and all of them went down. So Amanda was working diligently. Apparently, there was some kind of a computer update, which that update made everything break, at least for a little bit. She got it fixed and But that meant that all of the timing was a little wonky, and so thank you for hanging with us on all of that. And we did prerecord that segment with Danielle Jurinsky because the hours of the show live don't work for her and her schedule, but I thought it was so important to get her story to all of you, and so I really thank her for making herself available to make all of that happen. In the second hour, we're going to be going through our... book review of Economics in One Lesson. And Producer Joe and Susan Kochavar and Yvonne Paez will be weighing in on our little roundtable. Producer Luke is under the weather, so he will not be joining us. So stay tuned for that. And one of the chapters is on unions. And I thought, oh, this is going to be kind of dry. I thought it was really super interesting. So you'll want to hear that. And we'll talk to John Boson as well in this next hour. So our quote for the end of the show, since we're Reading Henry Hazlitt's book, Economics in One Lesson, is from Henry Hazlitt. And he said this. He said, So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for our number two.
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That seems to me like government is establishing a religion. If you give people rights, women's rights, gay rights, whatever, there can't be equal rights if there are special rights. Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today's drive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. You've had a morning, Producer Joe, and you are still smiling. I appreciate it.
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It's definitely my pleasure. It's still fun to try and figure out all the problem solving of it all.
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It's never boring, is it?
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OK, let's get into the details here. Check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. Although this week we will send out one extra one and that will be on Thursday with all of the information on who to contact to contact. basically demand that they get this food situation lined around down at Fort Carson here in Colorado for our soldiers. Apparently there's food scarcity, the quality can be crummy, and that is unconscionable. We've sent $175 billion to Ukraine. Biden promised a billion dollars to Africa, and they are only spending $5 million on food for our soldiers at Fort Carson while they're taking out $22 million of their pay. Something is wrong with this picture, and it needs to be fixed. And so we're going to have all of that contact information in that email that will go out on Thursday. So make sure that you're signed up for that. And you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. The text line is 720-605-0647. That's again 720-605-0647. And let's see here. Oh. Colonel Rutledge said that he thought it would be a good idea if we let you all know where you can find us. And so 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday, we're live. Our first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. And that is on all KLZ 560 platforms. So that's KLZ 560 a.m. KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website and the KLZ app. And then once the shows are published, you can also stream them on Spotify and iTunes as well. And as you know, we focus on searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And our America's Veterans Story Show is on Sunday afternoons, 3 to 4 p.m., again on all KLZ 5 platforms. And then there are rebroadcasts each Saturday and Sunday evening, 10 to 11 p.m. as well. Our word of the day is ostensible. And it is spelled O-S-T-E-N-S-I-B-L-E. And it is basically appearing or claiming to be one thing when it is really something else. So the Green New Deal is claiming that it's trying to protect Americans the planet from climate change when, in essence, the Green New Deal is about the green that is going into PBI's pockets. Our quote of the show, quote of the day, is from Henry Hazlitt because producer Joe and Susan Kojabar and Yvonne Paez are going to be reviewing a couple of the chapters from Henry Hazlitt's book, Economics in One Lesson. And Hazlitt said this. He said, the real solution to the problem of poverty consists in finding how to increase the employment and earning power of the poor. It's kind of like you think. And I wonder what John Boson with Boson Law thinks about that. John Boson, welcome to the show.
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How are you doing? Good morning.
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I do think that if the poor got was employed and they continue to earn more money, that might eliminate poverty. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, it kind of makes sense, kind of like one and one equals two, not three, but two. Yes.
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I think so. I think so. So we're in the holiday season, and things happen. And I actually got a little unfocused the other day when I was driving, and I thought of John Boson. He says, you know, stay focused, stay focused. And so I'm glad that I had that in my brain because of our conversations.
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Well, that and I had the pleasure of driving home last night on a sheet of ice, and it's just slowing down. I was on I-25 going southbound, going literally about 35 miles an hour, and cars were going by me going 60, 65, and then everything came to a halt. I didn't see an accident. I saw three very close calls and then about another mile down the road, there was a four-car pileup and just folks going too fast sometimes. I mean, last night was a perfect example. It wasn't slippery until it was, and then it was incredibly slick. So it's slow down, common sense.
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Common sense. John Boson, I know that you share dad-isms with your kids, and my father would share dad-isms with me as well, and he would say that. He would say, slow down. If you're involved in an accident, it will really slow you down. You'll have the expense to get your car fixed. And these days, a delay in being able to get your car fixed. So just a couple of extra minutes can save you days, actually, if you just use a little common sense.
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Days or weeks, depending on how much damage is done to that car that you don't have access to and use of. So, yeah, I mean, Kim, we've had this conversation. Common sense cures a lot of things. um but if you don't got it you don't got it but can you develop it i think you can and it's just you know looking at situations observing and what's the smart thing to do for example last night yeah slow down just slow down it just makes sense if though something happens and someone is injured what should they do and again um i really do not want to represent listeners But stuff happens to everybody. But if something happens to a friend, a neighbor, a coworker, hopefully not a loved one or yourselves out there, folks listening, but the important thing is to get advice early. Time is always of the essence. First thing you want to do if it's a physical injury you've sustained, get in, get checked out by a doctor. The next thing to do, give me a call so we can talk about what happened, why it happened. If it should not have happened, and then that advice I give on the front end of a potential claim is super valuable. Number to call for that consultation. And if it's not me, it'll be one of our other senior lawyers that's available. That number is 303-999-9999.
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So, John Bosen, just a clarification. You said that you did not want to represent my listeners. I think because you're meaning you don't want to have something happen to them where they've been injured.
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I just don't want anything to happen to folks, especially Kim Munson's show listeners.
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But if it does happen, they should call you, yes?
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I do thank the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. We will be starting our seventh year in solo broadcasting at the beginning of the year. And the Harris family has been with us from just about day one on the Kim Munson show. So I thank them for that. And then it's been wonky today, my friends, with some technical difficulties in our number one. I want to make sure that I mention the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. It's a nonprofit that I love, I support. Paula Sarles is the president, and she is a Gold Star wife, a Marine veteran, and she and her team are working diligently to raise the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. And there will be these pathways of service with these different bricks on it, and you can buy a brick to honor your loved one's military service and receive a beautiful certificate for that that can be hung on the wall were displayed and it is a lovely gift and so check all that out at usmcmemorialfoundation.org that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org and also wanted to mention the climateconversation.com that is where you can watch a climate conversation which is a very important documentary it's the project of walt johnson And you can watch it for free. And then we are creating these amazing informational podcasts with experts and scientists. And you can find all that at climateconversation.com. So it is time for a book review. And Producer Joe, are you ready for Economics in One Lesson?
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I sure hope so.
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We'll find out, huh? This is going to be a test. And Producer Luke is under the weather. So we have invited both Susan Kochevar. You know her. She's an entrepreneur and owner of 88 Drive-In Theater, a sponsor of the show. And she's on the line. Susan Kochevar, welcome. Thank you. Good morning. And Yvonne Paez is a co-founder of Perspectives 101, which is a civics group up in northern Colorado that she's put together just to keep people informed on key issues. Yvonne, welcome to the show. Thank you, Kim, and good morning. Okay. So, Joe, let's begin here. And our two subjects, we're on now Chapter 20 and 21. And Chapter 20 is, do unions really raise wages? And Hazlitt says this. He says, the belief that labor unions can substantially raise real wages over the long run and for the whole working population is one of the great delusions of the present age. The delusion is mainly the result of failure to recognize that wages are basically determined by labor productivity. So, Joe, I'll go to you first. Any 30,000-foot view, comments regarding this chapter on unions?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, one of the big things that I kind of noticed in this is with unions and forced regulations, if you would, it kind of inspires like leaders of companies and whatnot to possibly pay them a lower amount just to get away with sitting in the range because now they're forced to pay higher than what they may be able to incur in the net.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. So, Susan, I'll go to you. I think that Joe may be alluding to this idea that – Joe, help me – but I think with young people, they've been taught that – Business owners are greedy and they're mean and that they want to pay the very minimum that they can to their workers. And so what would you say to them? Am I kind of getting what you were saying, Joe? Yes, no?
SPEAKER 08 :
Pretty close, but with forced regulation, companies that may be smaller, like, say, the 88 drive-in, they can't do it the same as a big corporate company. So the corporate company can incur some of those hits from having a forced amount that they have to pay to all their employees and the forced extra regulations that happen, whereas someone smaller down...
SPEAKER 18 :
can't quite do that but because there's regulations in place it's based along the board for everybody and it kind of screws up the system okay so you're saying that it thank you for clarifying so you're saying that it makes it more difficult for your smaller entrepreneurs because they may not be able to absorb those costs am i getting that exactly okay susan your comments on that
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Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I think it also depends on the kind of products or services that you're providing. We're a little drive-in movie theater. If I raise my prices too high, people have disposable income. They just won't come. They'll find something else to do. And I'm not very big. Joe's correct. I can't absorb all of those prices and spread it around a lot of people or a lot of products or services. We have one. We have movie tickets and we sell food. So I think he's right about that.
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So, Susan, I was thinking about you the other day because I was driving down the street in my neighborhood and the... was providing a movie night, possibly at the art center, or in the summer sometimes they have a movie in the park that they will provide. And I was thinking, huh, now I'm not going to partake of that, but yet tax dollars are being used to provide that, and it's also using tax dollars to provide a service to that private enterprise provides, but they're providing it possibly for free, well, I put that in air quotes, and competing with our private enterprise. And that's why the proper role of government is so important for us to remember, Susan.
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Absolutely. I see that in more and more communities. And sometimes those groups don't even buy the rights to the film. So if I see that a community nearby is playing a Disney film, I can call Disney and check. And a lot of times they're ordered to cease and desist because they just think it's a good idea. They don't have any idea of property rights. and they just offer the program. And, yes, that does really heavily compete with me, especially now. You know, I bring in brand-new movies, but sometimes I'll bring in an older movie with that, and you've got the community playing this older movie. It makes it more difficult for me, even though I'm paying top dollar and I'm paying for the intellectual property rights for those films.
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Okay. Yvonne Paez, why don't you weigh in on this?
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Well, since we're talking about unions and how they may artificially want to help with the pricing based on maybe this younger population that thinks that companies are out to get people and they've got all this money and it's really they're just not giving it to the employees. I think we probably should put that in proper perspective and just remind people that Companies and businesses, small and large, often run on really tight margins. And I know a little bit about this because I have been working with the group that analyzes and talks about some of the larger companies like the Targets, the Walmarts, the Macy's, things like that, and how shoplifting affects them. Not that we're talking about shoplifting, but it highlights and they talk a lot about how thin some of those profit margins are. And when people shoplift, then that causes them not to be able to pay their employees and maybe they'd have to work with one less, et cetera. So I just want to throw that into the equation that, no, these companies, small and large, aren't just making money hand over fist and deciding to keep it all and not pass it on to their customers. employees, they often have tight profit margins. And just like Susan said, in her business, where she has employees as well, if she were to raise the prices for the employees, at some point, she can't continue to be in business because the profit margin is just not there at all. And if she passed that on to the consumer by raising the price so she could pay her her people more than others like she said there's right especially now with the inflation there's less disposable income people would just say well i just have to cut out going to the movies from what i like to do so we have to see that all of this is connected i think that's a really really important point
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So, Producer Joe, you're a young guy, and I feel that our young people are really getting squeezed with government-induced inflation and, again, this headline with Joe Biden going out the door, doling out all this money. to his cronies, ultimately that creates inflation, which reduces buying power. It's a silent thief. But the taxes that are being taken out of your paycheck, let's just think about that. If we could reduce those taxes that are being taken out of your paycheck, because government is the greediest, I think, of them all. The Marxists like to say that it's, oh, it's that business owner that's so greedy. Oh, no, no, no. It's government. So if we could reduce those taxes, what's being taken out of your paycheck, that would be very helpful, yes?
SPEAKER 08 :
that would absolutely be helpful. And I actually have an extra point with that too. I think the bigger thing that I really am nervous about, and it's kind of like protect yourself before you let someone else protect you. You know what I mean? Um, when a big company say has those losses it it's a smaller impact it doesn't impact someone's entire livelihood i think that's the difference for the employee because if that employee gets a say a decrease in their wages now they're gonna struggle for eating and feeding their family
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. And so this idea then the unions swoop in and say that they're going to assure that their workers get a certain wage. But ultimately, Yvonne, they're focused on wages. They're not focused on productivity. And as people become more productive – That increases the economy. The pie gets bigger. But I think unions are more about control. And ultimately, what Hazlitt said in Chapter 20 of do unions really raise wages is ultimately it can lead to unemployment for others as they're doing these forced wages that unions are negotiating for, Yvonne.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I think we need to keep our eye on the facts of what were the unions really created to do in the first place all these decades ago. And as the book says, their central function is that they serve to improve local working conditions. Remember when people were too young to work or some of the working conditions were dangerous and stuff. They had a real... function, to help bring safety into the workplace and a lot of those other things. But they kind of took it on as an additional duty to decide to be the economist and say, oh, you just need to pay more because I want you to, without any understanding of the delicate balance, the delicate economic balance that ties everything together.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, that's a great point, Yvonne. Okay, Joe, you have a comment?
SPEAKER 08 :
And I also think at that time when they became the economists, they started worrying about how long was someone in the union, not how good is their work. Are they worth the level that they're at?
SPEAKER 18 :
And I think, Susan, Joe is hitting on a very important point, is with unions, instead of meritocracy, it could be seniority. You see that with the teachers' unions. And so it doesn't strive for excellence. It strives for mediocrity instead of merit. Your thoughts, Susan?
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Yeah, I've seen a lot of that. I mean, I think Yvonne's right. In the beginning, unions were about, you know, they'd get people in, they'd teach them a trade, they'd make sure if you hired somebody from the union, it was the highest quality. You had some of that. But, you know, all things evolve, and it... turned into something that it just should never have been. And now you're right. What happens is the people who have been in the union the longest get seniority, they get the best jobs, all that stuff, and it's not tied necessarily to quality. And I can tell you as a business owner, I had to – I was hiring plumbers, and we'd have them come in and do some work. And then my favorite plumbing company, I called them, and they wouldn't come at 3 o'clock in the afternoon unless they charged me double because that was the new union rule. And so I just couldn't use my favorite plumbing company anymore because they had voted to go union. So when you look at – So they didn't get your business. No, they didn't get my business. And so when I have to look out into the real world and see what actually happens, that's not good. And I did work for a company one time, a grocery store that had a union. And when I was working, there's two different companies. levels of unions in the store and the different levels would fight. And it made it very difficult to get work done. It just, it really created an unhappy work environment.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and to your point, there was a time for unions, and it was important regarding working conditions. But many times, Yvonne, with something that's a good idea, you get government or you get force involved, and it can become a bad idea. So Yvonne, and then Joe, and then we'll go to break. Yvonne?
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And what happens is they just, lose sight of their original mission and, you know, like anything else, power. So they feel, well, if I started out by doing this and now I'm in there, I can do this and now I can do something else. And that's when they decided, you know, they can start deciding, you know, what prices ought to be without truly understanding what things cost. So it's kind of a cause of getting a little big for their britches, shall we say. And then, you know, there's also they're involved in whether sometimes whether people strike or not. And that'll be another thing we can talk about here in a minute. So let's go to Joe.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, Joe. I also want to mention what it does to the non-unionized workers. So the union can't employ everybody. So now all these other workers who want to get into that area work extra hard to hopefully get into that area. But that area is used up and the tax dollars are just gone now. Or the wages are gone. And the people who believe in the hard work and giving a good product now are kind of sitting around trying to figure out how to do the best they can while they're feeling kind of slighted.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And over Christmas break, I would recommend that you put the family in the car and visit the Center for American Values located on the beautiful Riverwalk in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. And Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. And Brad Padula, who is a Emmy Award winning documentary maker, are the co-founders. And they have created just a very special place with these portraits of valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients. And then also created a great quote book as well, which is a lovely gift. You can get all that information about the center by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And Yvonne Paez, before we get to that, you and I were down at an On Values presentation several months ago at the center, and then we ended up walking on the beautiful Riverwalk as well. The center's pretty special, isn't it?
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It is amazing. First of all, since you talked about it for so long, I couldn't wait to get down there. And when I did, I was just flabbergasted. You walk in, and then there's Portraits of Valor, which are these pictures of these Medal of Honor winners. And then you can see them. You can see their quotes. And what you don't know is it's like a little mini cinema. And if you see one that really, really touches your heart, you can ask the staff, can you pull the video on that guy? And you can actually see about the one person that you want to. It's so special. And there's so much to see and do there.
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Well, and it is. It really is. So be sure and check out AmericanValueCenter.org for more information. Yvonne, before we went to break, we're talking about unions regarding the chapter in Economics in One Lesson. And you mentioned strike, and we've heard of union strikes. So what did you want to say about that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, what I want to say is that for the most part, Strikes should be avoided because it causes problems all around, obviously for the people consuming the products, for the people that aren't working, for the employers who don't have their workers working and they're missing production, et cetera. So strikes should be very, very last resorty. But just so we know and understand, there is a time and a place for a strike, and that is when you really are trying to speak to somebody about something and there really is an issue. and they're not listening so i just i don't want anybody to lump strikes into always bad but they should be rarely used and used only when necessary and i would say that is pretty similar to when we speak up in our communities if something is not right i mean we don't need to be at city council complaining about every single decision they make and everything just speaking up all the time you know this cry wolf thing But, you know, when time comes, when you start getting a bill for trash, when you don't even receive that trash service or something, okay, it's time to speak up now because, you know, sometimes cities or whatever go a little too far. So just know when it's time to speak up.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and you're referring to Fort Collins and their situation where the city has determined that there is one trash hauler that is the preferred trash hauler. And saying, yes, there can be competition, but if you use the competition, you pay the competition, and also you have to pay a fee to the city for not using their preferred trash hauler. It's like, what's wrong with that picture, Yvonne?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, from your first hour, you were talking about the problems in Aurora. It sounds a lot like, you know, these guys coming and knocking on the door and saying, you owe me money. And you go, wait, I pay the landlord. Well, that's the landlord. You need to pay me, too. I mean, it just does not sound good at all. Susan, what do you think about that?
SPEAKER 06 :
I would agree with Yvonne. That top-down control just doesn't work. And it's the same thing we see with unions.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and Gammy had texted this in. She said that unions have become socialist Marxist tools. They use control. And what started out as possibly a way to protect workers is now like the workers of the world unite. And so it really has moved into unions can be very, very Marxist. And here in Colorado, unions, the unionization of I think municipal workers was approved. Maybe it was county was approved last year by the state legislature. I need to get the exact details. So I apologize. Exactly what that is. But that's a very bad idea. Even FDR. Right. A progressive president realized that it was not a good idea to have public unions because people that are being paid by tax dollars then are organizing to get more money from the taxpayers, which means that we get squeezed more and more. Joe, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I just want to point out as well is like once one union is affected, all the rest of them get affected as well. Because now the other ones are going to be like, oh, well, you know, they got this. So we want this too. And now you're just increasing it across the board. And it just becomes kind of fixed to where that the small business can't even operate too well. Yep. That's an excellent point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Go ahead, Yvonne. It's known as setting precedent, and then that just kind of builds off of that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. So let's get over here to Chapter 21, Enough to Buy Back the Product. And Susan, I'm going to go to you on this. It says the initial paragraph is amateur writers on economics are always asking for just prices and just wages. These nebulous conceptions of economic justice come down to us from medieval times. The classical economists worked out and said a different concept, the concept of functional prices and functional wages. And functional prices are those that encourage the largest volume of production and the largest volume of sales. And functional wages are those that tend to bring about the highest volume of employment and the largest real payrolls. I think that kind of sums it up. Susan, what do you think?
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Yeah, I think it does really well. And I wonder how they would apply that. Say you're employing people to make yachts, so you're supposed to pay each person enough to buy a yacht, when those are essentially trades. One person comes in and does all the plumbing, and one person comes in and does all the wood. So it's kind of a silly and oversimplistic way to look at employment and businesses, I think. You know, my people are my very best asset, and I cannot do every single job myself. So I want the best people, and I'll pay them as much as I can so that I get the best quality work. And I have to offer prices to the customer that both pay the employee the expenses and allow for profit, but it also has to be a price that the customer can and is willing to pay for my product.
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Excellent point. And while you were saying that, I was thinking about, I think, something, Joe, that a lot of young people, well, and older, I hate to call it liberal, because this whole... All these different words, a liberal classical education was an education founded on the principles of all men are created equal, rise from God, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. So these words get all co-opted, and I think that's by design. So those on the left, let's say that they like to make the argument that so somebody is successful and they've created a business and they've been successful. If you if you create a product and people will trade their hard earned dollars for that, that's great. Hopefully you'll make a profit. And if a lot of people think that your product will benefit them and a lot of people buy it, you'll get wealthy. And what I've seen is then this kind of over the shoulder, people looking at like a Jeff Bezos and say, well, he doesn't need he doesn't need all that money. And so he should give some of that money away to people that don't have money. And. I'm looking at that and I'm thinking, well, I don't think that people should have a right to have a claim on the money that he has earned. And they say, well, he doesn't need that yacht. He doesn't need that extra house. But somebody wealthy, when they build that extra house or they have that yacht, to what Susan was alluding to, is it gives people jobs, the workers jobs. the plumbers. It creates jobs for people, and so they trade value for value. So instead of giving his money away, he is creating value in the things that he might be buying or investing in. Joe, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think the thing that, well, and I'm speaking for me, but I think a lot of people feel similarly as me, but I think the increase in regulations upon us, the little guys, wow, he's kind of getting away with maybe breaking a bunch of regulations that could have been put in place to protect us, but now they kind of do the opposite and hurt us. And I think we see those multi-billionaire people kind of doing that and i think we just kind of overlook what is the actual true cause it's forced taxation and regulation
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and to your point, many times that the rules are different for different people. Can you say Hunter Biden and Tina Peters? The rules are different on the and what you're saying is a young person. And this is in America. The rules are supposed to be uniform and affect everyone differently. The same.
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And Hunter Biden should have gone to jail because he broke laws. I would have gone to jail for that same thing. But here we are. He gets a full pardon on 10 years worth of what could have happened. That's not fair in any way, shape and form.
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So, Yvonne, I'll go to you. And what Joe is saying, and I think a lot of young people are concerned about, and that is cronyism, where big business and government get into – big business and big government basically get in bed together, and they create crony special deals. And our young people look at that, and they say, that's not fair. And they know inherently something is wrong with that, Yvonne.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. So it's not fair, right? to interfere or meddle with the economy, right? Because that's what causes the problem. So it's not the people who have big businesses or small businesses or that. We have to understand that an economy is kind of an independent, breathing, living thing. Like human nature, it has a nature of its own, a balance, an equilibrium. And if we interfere or meddle with it, we break it. And so that's what the cronyism is, is interfering and meddling with it that causes these kinds of problems.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that is an excellent point. And Joe? And it's typically done through force. Force regulations, force legislations, and force taxation.
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Boy, that word force. We talk about that a lot on this show, don't we, Producer Joe? So let's continue the discussion when we come back with Producer Joe and Yvonne Paez and Susan Kochavar. These are great discussions, and it comes to you because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, Lorne Levy, he can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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SPEAKER 08 :
It's my pleasure. My dad always told me, you're never going to get the hard stuff done if you just walk around it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, I love that. I've never heard that one. So let's summarize. And I've got Susan Kochevar and Yvonne Paez on the line first. Joe, let's go to you on these two chapters regarding unions and the other is to make enough money to buy back the product. What's kind of your takeaway you'd like to leave with people?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think the harder we work to make it even and stop worrying about our productivity and our quality of product, the worse off we're going to get. And I think we should just start going back to the full free market idea with... semblance of protection and maybe how is the building placed like maybe these conditions are kind of the bare minimum i can get with that but regulating our what we have to pay everybody and whatnot it's just creating a bigger fallacy in the system wow susan what do you what's your comments on on this
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I would agree completely with Joe. It's not a top-down sort of thing that, you know, everybody needs to build their own skills, realize you really work for yourself no matter what job you do, and, you know, learn to advocate and negotiate for yourself. I think if we could teach our young people one thing, that would be how to negotiate and build your skills and build your worth, that you really are your own small business and you don't need somebody to control your life and do all that stuff for you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and if Susan – Susan, if people work hard and show up on time and are willing to learn and be better, which makes the business more productive, which makes it more profitable – Then that, as you say, I love this, that you are your own small business. So instead of looking at your employer as the enemy, look at it as a partnership to work together. And as one is successful, the other will be successful, Susan.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and you can't make everything a complete playing field and make everything fair. It never works that way. And you can't really expect life to be fair. Are you going to work for people that aren't good employers? Yes, you are. That's where you build your skills and you go find somebody else you want to contract with for your labor. and talent. That's how that works. But the idea that you're going to make everything fair for wages and how long you've been doing a job, it squashes productivity, it squashes ingenuity, and it's not possible.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thanks, Susan Kochevar. Yvonne, somebody told me that the only fair in life is the county fair and the state fair. So what do you think about that? Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and the only certainty is death and taxes, right? Got it. You're right. But, yeah, you know, whoever invented that little saying of making enough to buy the product, it's probably not half the time it's not even a product you want to own. Who knows what you're working in and what you're doing, you know? Good point. But the idea is I love the way that Susan put it, that you're your own small business, because that's the way I always looked at it before I was even a business owner. And the bottom line is this is something I know that the young people are going to have a problem with because it's uncomfortable. And a lot of young people have, again, the fallacy, you know, they've been told that things should be easy and they should be comfortable. Life is not easy and it's not comfortable. And I think you and I, we've talked about this before. If we're our own small businesses and you're not making it on the one business, you open a second business, right? You get that second job. You get that third job. And I've had up to four jobs in my life. At one time, right? Yes, at one time. And it wasn't comfortable. But, you know, you're a Kansas girl. You understand making hay while the sun shines, right? You've got it. You're only young once. You only have that energy to do all of that when you're young. And so you've got to do the short-term pain for the long term. term gain. And I'm not an economist, but I made it work for me. And it's not about what you make so much, but what you spend. You need to be a saver. I came to this country at the age of 70. Well, it's a long story. I was from here, then left and was in Latin America and then came back alone at 17 with $500 in my pocket. And that was it, you know, kind of like in the fairytale. you know, then send off to make their way in the world kind of thing. And I'm now a homeowner and a business owner. So yes, it can be done. But if you think you're going to do it on one job, you're not. So you got to figure out what it is that you want.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, Yvonne Paez, thank you so much for weighing in on this. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you for the opportunity.
SPEAKER 18 :
And Susan Kochevar, always great wisdom. Thank you so much. Thank you. And, Joe, you're a real sport to do this. Thank you. It's my pleasure. It's fun for me. And to Yvonne's point is my dad said to me, and Yvonne alluded to this, that young people these days may not be told that you need to really – Pay your dues and make things happen. And my dad said, if you do what you need to when you need to, then someday you can do what you want to when you want to. But if you get those things crossways, then it doesn't always work out that well. So, again, these are such great discussions. I wanted to get to just a few of these text messages regarding Danielle Jurinsky, who we had on in the first hour. She is a Aurora City Councilwoman member. And it said, one of these is, who pays the mortgage on those apartments when they are in receivership? And this is the apartments in Aurora. We're talking about that. And great question. Another comment is, when good men do nothing, bad wins. We have to fight. We can't quit. And another listener said, Kim, I don't understand why these people will sit back and look at this while Danielle is on my front line. Oh, that's from Johnny J., And then Connie said, thank you for the important story with Danielle Jarenski. And let's see, regarding the CEO that was gunned down in New York City, somebody asked, how many murders were committed in New York City in the last week? Apparently none, as we haven't heard of any since the CEO was tragically murdered. Certainly that there were more. And one other thing from yesterday. From Jenny, we were talking about government grant money, and she clarified that basically government grant money to these municipalities and counties and the state is like drugs, is like cocaine. And so we need to do the intervention, and we need to stop all of this grant money that is going out to all of these different municipalities because the federal government doesn't have the money. They're printing it. which is causing inflation and these high deficits and in debt. This is not sustainable, and so we've got to get this turned around. It's going to be a little painful, but we've got to do it. Our quote for the end of the show is from Henry Hazlitt. He said this, When each of us is free to work out his own economic destiny within the framework of the market economy, the institution of private property, and the general rule of law, We will all improve our economic condition much faster than when we are ordered around by bureaucrats. So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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In this episode, Mike Gallagher returns from a captivating Caribbean cruise where discussions among political and cultural enthusiasts took center stage. Reflect on the successful execution of the event despite last-minute challenges, and hear about Gallagher's personal experiences navigating the bustling Aruban streets. Gallagher transitions to the studio, where the discourse shifts to President Trump's audacious media engagements, particularly focusing on his interactions with the press. This segment dissects Trump's narratives, media responses, and the continuous quest for balance in political dialogue. Moreover, the episode sheds light on a critical moment of justice, as the verdict in the Daniel Penny case sends ripples through the legal community. Gallagher reflects on the potential implications of this decision and engages listeners with thought-provoking anecdotes and insights. Whether it's analyzing media bias or advocating for justice, each segment holds significance for both dedicated political followers and casual listeners alike.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
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First off, a big shout-out to Joey Hudson and Scott Jennings from CNN for filling in last week. As I covered for Dennis Prager on the Caribbean cruise, we had really a terrific, terrific experience. It was difficult circumstances. Dennis, of course, suffered a tough fall two weeks before the cruise. He is in the hospital in Los Angeles. recovering. He had a very serious injury. We continue to pray for Dennis and his healing and recovery and his family and all his many, many fans and friends. And so they sort of launched, they parachuted in Hugh Hewitt and Mike Gallagher to the Caribbean cruise. Hugh did the first half of the cruise. I did the second half. I got on board in Aruba. Almost got mugged in Aruba. That was an experience. I can tell you a little bit about that a little later if you're interested. And it was all on me, big dummy me, roaming around looking for a drugstore. And just about wound up in a deserted alley with three young Aruban thugs who were going to... do goodness knows what to me. But I made it. My spidey sense kicked in, and I got away. But anyway, the people on the ship were so gracious and so patient and understanding, and we did our best to entertain them. We had great panel discussions about politics and the culture and spirituality. I did a big presentation of the trip we took to Israel after October 7th. People seemed to appreciate that. I did a whole Trump.2... Trump 2.0 presentation as President Trump prepares to go back to the Oval Office. Doesn't it feel great to know how we dodged a catastrophe with the November 5th election? I was thinking about being on the cruise ship. Here you are in this great environment, a beautiful ship, the Holland America Rotterdam. Holland America does such a great job. They've become my favorite cruise line. And Don't forget, August, we're going to have the second annual Patriots Alaska cruise. And we're already up to almost 100 people. That thing's going to sell out. I'm warning you, Larry Elder and I are going to be your hosts, and we're going to be joined by the great Joe Piscopo from New York. He's promising to entertain and to sing and to talk about the world. Jennifer Horn is going to join us again from KRLA in Los Angeles. She's wonderful. And, of course, Larry and I will be your humble hosts. This is way more than a vacation. You're going to get to be on the ship with us doing all these great events on the world stage, on the beautiful Eurodam from Holland, America. And just a quick heads up, you've got to book through us in order to have access to all the onboard events that we're going to be hosting. There were a number of people this past Fourth of July. when Seb Gorka and I hosted the first Patriots Alaska cruise, who I know you booked the trip without using us, and you thought you could get into the events, and we felt bad for you because there's a conference for you that is built into the cost of the voyage. It's not a lot. But you've got to have your badge in order to gain admittance. So please, please know you have to go through us. Go to TravelWithSalem.com right now to get the itinerary. There is nothing like a cruise. And the Alaska cruise is a lot different than even the Caribbean cruise that we were just on because you're always seeing land. You're going up the inside passage. You're seeing Ketchikan and all these beautiful sights with glaciers and wildlife. You'll see seals and sea otters and whale watching. We're going to have a great time. So August the 16th through the 23rd. of 2025, the Patriots Alaska cruise. 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The murder mystery in Manhattan intensifies. They're searching right now in Central Park for evidence of the assassin of the UnitedHealthcare CEO. And people on the left have cheered it on. You want to talk about evil? Evil is saying you don't like... Healthcare insurers, so you're glad a guy got murdered in the streets of Manhattan. We're also on jury watch for the Daniel Penny case, the subway guy that was a good Samaritan. The jury is... now revisiting it after the more serious manslaughter charge against him last week. So we'll give you an update on that case as well. But first, a President Trump's epic visit with Kirsten Welker on NBC's Meet the Press. You're not going to want to miss a word of this coming up.
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There are 20 states that still have the federal minimum wage at $7.25, and I actually have a map. Nineteen of these states actually voted for you, sir. Mm-hmm. And you can see it right here. I don't know if you remember this, but during the debate in 2020, I asked you if you would raise the minimum wage. You said you would consider it. And so my question for you is, now that you are going back to the White House, For these 19 states that voted for you, are you going to raise the federal federal wage?
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It's a very low number. I will agree. It's a very low number. Let me give you the downside, though. In California, they raised it up to a very high number. And your restaurants are going out of business all over the place. The population is shrinking. It's had a very negative impact. But there is a level at which you could do it. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
What is that level?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't know. I mean, I really don't know. I can say this. You have a lot of businesses that are open and thriving because of the lower minimum wage. If you raise it too much and you understand this, if California went crazy, they went crazy and people, the restaurants are closing all of them. Many more people are hurt.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I hear you saying. Similarly to sort of what you said in 2020, will you consider this as something you're going to look at?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'd want to speak to the governors. And the other thing that is very complicated about minimum wages is places are so different. Mississippi and Alabama and great places are very different than New York or California. I mean, in terms of the cost of living and other things. So it would be nice to have just a minimum wage for the whole country, but it wouldn't work because you have places where it's very inexpensive to live, where a minimum wage, which is eight or nine dollars might be, you know, might have very much very little effect because the cost of living in certain places is really low.
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Now, she goes on to quote the 14th Amendment. She completely edits, deceptively edits the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment, because get ready for this, the mass deportation and ending birthright citizenship. Now, listen to what she says to Trump in deceptively editing the U.S. Constitution.
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You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one. Is that still your plan?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
The 14th Amendment, though, says that, quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens. Can you get around the 14th Amendment with an executive action?
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Now, wait a minute. Did you know what she left out? Here's what the 14th Amendment says. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. are citizens of the United States. Notice how she left that part out? So she cut that out. Meaning, according to a lot of experts, not illegal immigrants. Not illegal immigrants. How about this one, this double standard? She puts on her very concerned face. It's like a Kamala face when you put your hand under your chin and you look concerned. Oh, I'm concerned. And tries to lecture Trump about how his words have weight. when he says he won't order the DOJ or the FBI to prosecute Liz Cheney and others, although he does feel they ought to be in jail, keep in mind how often Biden said Trump was a threat to democracy and should be locked up. But of course, oh, I've got nothing to do with lawfare against President Trump. Here's an insane double standard as presented by Kristen Welker of NBC.
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And what did they do? They deleted and destroyed a whole year and a half worth of testimony. Do you know that I can't get I think those people committed a major crime and Cheney was behind it. And so was Benny Thompson and everybody on that committee. We're going to for what they did.
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Yeah.
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Honestly, they should go to jail.
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So you think Liz Cheney should go to jail?
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For what they did.
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Everyone on the committee.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think everybody. Anybody that voted in favor.
SPEAKER 09 :
Are you going to direct your FBI director and your attorney general to send them to jail?
SPEAKER 07 :
Not at all. I think that they'll have to look at that. But I'm not going to. I'm going to focus on drill, baby.
SPEAKER 09 :
When you say that, it carries weight, though. You know, you've tapped these people to lead the Justice Department and FBI.
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They can do whatever they want. I mean, it's amazing. And the double standards continue. Now, he completely shames her about her profession and the mainstream media. In 2024, she's sitting there with the newly elected president. She turns the conversation to what is on everybody's mind, January 6th, because they can't let January 6th go. They never will. His response is amazing.
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Let me ask you this about January 6th.
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I wish you could be a... You know, you have such potential. If you could be just non-biased, you hurt yourself so badly. I'm telling you, they deleted and destroyed all the evidence. Everyone knows it. And you slough it off like it doesn't mean anything.
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No, I'm just saying they deny it. That's all I'm saying.
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Listen, if I did it, you would be standing up in that chair shouting at me. And you know what I'd do? I'd say, you got me.
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I don't know what President Trump thought of the Meet the Press appearance. I think he said some negative things about it on social media. But I loved it. I loved every minute of it. He went toe-to-toe with her. He showed her up. He certainly answered every question. They all ought to do this with him. Because he'll give the interview. He'll get interviewed on the Weather Channel if they ask him. He doesn't mind. He wants to deliver his message to as many people as possible. It gets even better. She goes after Robert F. Kennedy Jr. She goes into her vice principal mode and claims she's fair. I want to play some more of the interview for you coming up. Also get your reaction to all of it. 800-655-MIKE. Great to be back in the saddle again. 800-655-MIKE. Welcome in to the Mike Gallagher Show. Welcome to the show. What happens when the power's out, your phone says no service, and the grid is down? Do you have a backup plan? If you don't have a satellite phone from sat123.com, you're risking way more than just missed calls. A satellite phone from sat123.com keeps you connected no matter what. You could be miles from civilization or in the middle of a natural disaster. This phone works when everything else fails. It's your lifeline when the world goes dark. And let's be real. These days, anything can happen. But with Sat123.com, you're prepared. Sat123.com is committed to American values. They believe in reliability and quality that you can trust when it matters the most. Don't wait until it's too late. Head over to Sat123.com. Use the promo code Gallagher for $25 off. Gallagher, G-A-L-L-A-G-H-E-R. Sat123.com. Promo code Gallagher for $25 off. Protect yourself, protect your family, and stay connected with Sat123.com.
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It is so nice to walk back into this studio after being away for about a week and a half. We had Thanksgiving. I was on the Prager Caribbean cruise this past week with Hugh Hewitt. Hugh did the first half of the cruise. I did the second half. Many, many thanks to the wonderful, wonderful members of our audience who are on that ship expecting Dennis. Dennis, of course, suffering a terrible fall and is recovering in a hospital. We're continuing to pray for Dennis's healing and comfort. His wife, Sue, and... the family, and the many, many fans of Dennis Prager. The cruise turned out to be just a wonderful experience. I mean, I went at the last minute, didn't know where I was going. In fact, I wound up, I was flown into Aruba to meet the cruise ship, and I had a pretty scary experience in Aruba. all because I stupidly wandered around looking for a drugstore. I'm going to share that experience with you by way of the M&M experience, my visit with Mark Davis. Mark and I caught up this morning on his show at 735 on 660 AM The Answer. And it was, look, word of the wise, do not do what I did in Aruba or you might wind up in bad, bad... So I'll share that story with you by way of my chat with Mark that we'll play for you a little bit later this hour. But I walk into this studio and look up at the MyPillow text line. Here's a text from the upstate of South Carolina. I look forward to your show each and every day, Mike. You do a wonderful job keeping us updated on all the important issues going on. Hope you have a wonderful Christmas. God bless you, my brother. Thank you, upstate South Carolina. And a nice text from Pennsylvania. Scott Jennings from CNN was the perfect compliment to you and Joey Hudson. We always miss you, though. There is only one Mike Gallagher. Welcome back to the jungle. Well, I'm ready. I mean, speaking of the jungle, how about New York City? riding the subway, you might take your life into your own hands. And I know what that feels like. Daniel Penny is facing his fate. They are now day five of the deliberations in the Daniel Penny trial. He's the Good Samaritan who saved fellow passengers from the violent unhinged actions of a criminal who sadly died when Daniel Penny restrained him, and Alvin Bragg seeing a white Marine restraining a black guy who suffered an untimely demise, the prosecutor there said, we're going to throw this guy in prison for many years. Now, when the shoe is on the other foot, when a young black guy has an encounter with somebody on the subway. Nothing happened to him. Tracy, can you find that story for me, please? The story of the young black man. I forget his name. The comparison between what he faced in terms of consequences and what Daniel Penny is facing. And critics, legal scholars are absolutely blasting the judge in this New York City case for not instructing the jury in another way than the way he did. It's a real crazy story. And we're going to see how this unfolds. They dropped the more serious story. I think it was manslaughter. It was second-degree manslaughter that they dropped on Friday, and now he's facing involuntary homicide, which is a lesser crime, but he could still wind up going to jail. This guy, he better not spend one day in jail. One day. It's the weaponization of the court system. It's what liberals and Democrats do these days, and that's why the November 5th election was so important. That's why we've got to push back, and we are pushing back. And the mayor of New York, Eric Adams, he's a Democrat. Check out what he said to a local reporter. She's a legend, Marcia Kramer. She's on CBS2 in New York City. He talked about the weaponization of the Justice Department, not only against people like Daniel Penny, frankly, but against politicians, public figures like Donald Trump.
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And now we're hearing others are saying that Biden should pardon people because this would be difficult on their families and difficult on them, and they would have to pay high legal fees. What about me? What about those mothers who are placed on FBI watch lists because they were standing up for their children?
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Well, you said the other day you think that the justice system has been politicized. You believe that, don't you?
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Yes, I do, with all my heart. But not only do I believe it, the president stated it. Donald Trump stated it. And countless others. You should look at some of these stories, what happened to people that stand up because of what they believe in. I believed in this city. We were going in the wrong direction with the migrants and asylum seekers. And I was very clear about that after 10 trips to Washington, D.C. I know what this crisis has done to our city long term. And New Yorkers are going to see the byproduct of $6.4 billion removed from our coffers.
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That's the Democrat mayor of New York City. Now, you can be cynical and point to his legal troubles, and they're coming after him, too. But I would argue when you're the victim of the weaponization of the court system, the political weaponization, you see things through a whole different light. I think Eric Adams sees the light. I think Eric Adams absolutely recognizes... what it means for a corrupt FBI, for a corrupt Justice Department, for a corrupt law enforcement agency to upend people's lives. And, of course, always the caveat, I'm not saying that every FBI agent, every law enforcement officer, there's a whole lot of honorable people. It's one of the most honorable professions. It's my passion, Gallagher's Heroes, the Fallen Officer Fund. We support law enforcement and their families by publishing the First Responders Bible and helping the families of officers who've been killed in the line of duty. I think there was another officer in Texas this week who was killed in the line of duty. You can go to gallaghersheroes.org and read all about what we do. I'm not anti-law enforcement, but we all ought to be disgusted with the way corrupt prosecutors and corrupt Justice Department officials have weaponized the legal system, have weaponized the courts. It's un-American. It's filthy. It's a filthy practice. And now Biden is being urged to preemptively pardon Anthony Fauci? How angry are you going to be if Fauci, of all people, gets a preemptive pardon? How angry are you going to be if Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney? Do you know how corrupt that January 6th committee was? How they stacked the deck against Trump and others? How they've rounded people up for being at the Capitol on January 6th? Oh, you're going to see pardons coming from Donald Trump. So now they want Biden to preemptively pardon people who have been corrupt. How are you going to react? What will your feeling be if Tony Fauci gets a preemptive pardon? And incidentally, people would say, have said, well, wait a minute, if you haven't done anything wrong, why do you need to have a preemptive pardon? Yeah, ask Donald Trump. Democrats know how to prosecute and persecute people who have done nothing wrong. They're good at it. So they're projecting. And that's why they want Biden to preemptively pardon some of these scoundrels. 800-655-MIKE. Join us, 15 past the hour in the Relief Factor studios. Monday, back to work. Great to be back with you. And thank you for all the kind comments on our MyPillow text line. And, hey, it's Christmas season. We're a couple weeks from Christmas. I need you to help us with the Angel Tree campaign. We've got a long way to go. We've got a goal of 5,416 kids. We're about halfway there. $30 sends a child a Bible, a Christmas present, and a personalized message from their parent. This is the time where we've got to really hit the gas. Please go to MikeOnline.com and click on the banner there, Change a Child's Christmas. Let's keep them from having a blue Christmas. Let's give them a merry Christmas. Let's give them a little bit of God's love in their life. Please support our annual Angel Tree campaign. Go to MikeOnline.com. Or call 888-206-2788 to donate. 888-206-2788. And Merry Christmas from all of us at the Mike Gallagher Show and Prison Fellowship and our annual Angel Tree campaign. We got a verdict in New York City, and this is big.
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Breaking now on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Daniel Penny has been found not guilty. A Manhattan jury has cleared Marine Daniel Penny of any criminal wrongdoing in the death of Jordan Neely on that crowded subway. Boy, they're already protesting in New York City. I'm already telling my team there, Eric, Christian, you guys be careful. Christian just said, boy, now I got to get on the subway later today. Daniel Penny found not guilty. The jury acquitted Penny of criminally negligent homicide, which could have put him behind bars for up to four years. manslaughter, which was the top charge that Alvin Bragg's office tried to stick Daniel Penny with, that was thrown out Friday when jurors twice said they couldn't reach a unanimous verdict. Well, now the jury today, after deliberating, has cleared Daniel Penny of criminal wrongdoing. Not guilty. This guy gets to get on with his life. And incidentally, one of the representatives in Washington wants to give this guy the Medal of Honor for being a good Samaritan. Gosh, this is such good news. And this is going to send shockwaves all over the country to these radical activist prosecutors who want to send good people to prison to make some political statement or some racial statement. And that's what this was about. This was all about the district attorney going after the white guy. Do you remember the case of Jordan Williams? If you're in New York, you probably do. He was a 20-year-old man who fatally stabbed a guy on the subway. Grand jury didn't indict him. The Brooklyn district attorney's office said, our office conducted an impartial and thorough investigation... And the charges against Jordan Williams have been dismissed. Yeah, well, what's the difference? He's black. 20-year-old black guy who stabbed DeVictor Odrigago, 36 years old, on the Brooklyn J train in June of 2023. Odrigago, or however you pronounce the guy's name, the bad guy, punched and assaulted... Jordan Williams' girlfriend and was harassing other passengers. So Jordan Williams, the 20-year-old guy, takes out a knife and stabbed him to death. Oh, he's okay. No problem there. But Daniel Penny, let's throw the book at him. said the district attorney's office in New York City. Well, Daniel Penny was seen smiling after the not guilty verdict. There are protests erupting in and around the New York City courtroom. But common sense and sanity has prevailed, even in a New York courtroom. Huge, huge news. Let's get your reaction to it. 800-655-MIKE. And there's also other big breaking news going on. There was a person of interest... who has been arrested in Altoona, Pennsylvania, a person of interest in association with the assassination of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. Somebody was using a fake ID, according to the New York Post, in Altoona, PA. And they arrested this guy, and they are describing him as a person of interest. Could this be the shooter? Could this be the killer? We're going to find out. 22 minutes before the hour, and again, we can all sort of sigh, breathe a sigh of relief. At least normal people will be relieved. But the left, they're not normal. What's normal about celebrating the cold-blooded killing of a young health care executive named Brian Thompson? What's normal about that? What's normal about people sitting around and cheering on the cowardly, cold-blooded assassination of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. I'm seeing different news accounts. Threats are being issued now after the jury has found... Watch the left lose their minds over this one. Watch all the usual race baiters and the race hustlers. Al Sharpton will inevitably hold a press conference denouncing the racist criminal system. But it was insane that Daniel Penny was facing any criminal charges. He was a hero. The guy was a good Samaritan. You want Daniel Penny on your bus or on your train or in a public place. You want somebody who is willing to stand up and defend innocent people. So there will be shockwaves over this one. I was really worried for him. I thought they would convict him on the lesser charge, but they did not. And, in fact, the New York City jury has found him not guilty. He has been acquitted. Bill, one open line, 800-655-MIKE. Bill's in Easley, South Carolina. Hello, Bill.
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Hey, Mike. Yeah, I love your show, man. Great job there. Thank you. I just want to say I'm really excited for that guy to be able to move on. I know what it's like to stand in front of dirty, corrupt people that have no desire to do the right thing. Have you been through it? I've been through it.
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I've been through it for years. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I just can't imagine, Bill, what it must be like to have a helpless feeling of knowing that the system is out to get you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Man, I faced a dirty prosecutor week after week, month after month for four straight years. And, you know, when these guys come after you, you know, one of the main things they kept telling me is the truth don't matter. Yeah, it does.
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It matters. It matters to the people. It's everything. I'm glad you got through it, Bill. I'm glad you came out on the other side. Look, I've got a friend, William Smith, Captain Will, who I have flown with. He's got a private aviation company, and he's a wonderful guy, and he was falsely accused of rape. And there was a corrupt judge in North Carolina. She was a disaster. And she was friends with the jury, and the deck was stacked against him. And he spent, look, he was in prison. He was actually shanked in prison and was completely innocent. What a horrific, horrific feeling that must be to have the system come at you. Here's a text also from South Carolina. Thank you, Jesus, for the Daniel Penning not guilty verdict. Thank you, Jesus. And yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus from Nebraska. Awesome news, great news. There will definitely be shockwaves all over, but this Marine deserves a medal. Two big breaking stories coming at the same time. The New York Post is reporting that a man was picked up in Altoona, Pennsylvania today, this morning, using a fake ID. There's a nationwide hunt against, you know, trying to find this gunman who snuck behind UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on the sidewalk. pulled out what looked like a handgun with a silencer and calmly unloaded multiple shots at his back. And the gunman got away, but there has been a person of interest arrested in Altoona, PA. We'll see if that's connected. But, of course, the other big breaking story is the... is the not guilty verdict for Daniel Penny. What great news. I am elated. I am so relieved. And incidentally, it's going to send a message to good Samaritans all over the place. Instead of every man, woman, and child having to fend for themselves, instead of having little old ladies wondering if anybody's going to come to their rescue, thanks to the common sense jury verdict in New York City, People can step up again. Great news. Daniel Penny in New York found not guilty. This Christmas blowout sale, there was a big box retailer who canceled MyPillow, a big order. They got thousands of pillows they got to move. And Mike Lindell said, you know what we're going to do? We're going to give you the craziest wholesale price ever on MyPillow. A normal standard classic MyPillow is $49.98, which is still a great price for a pillow. You'll get it for only $14.88 for a limited time.
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The only way to live your spiritual life and glorify the Lord Jesus Christ is to know Scripture (God’s Word). This is only accomplished by staying filled with the Holy Spirit, studying under the ministry of a well-qualified pastor, and consistently applying what you’ve learned. “Study to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the Word of truth” (2 Tim 2:15). Satan is in the business of dumbing down believers. He doesn’t want you to learn God’s Word because it breaks you free from his system of evil.
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Live Your Spiritual Life
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 1007 aired on December 8, 2024
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes. For the next 30
minutes, please stick around. It won’t be long, just a few short minutes of motivation, inspiration,
education and always without any manipulation. We’re not trying to con you. We’re not going to
ask you for anything. We just want to give you the Word of God and hopefully if you hear it, you
will be able to understand God's plan for your life. If this happens, then you can orient and adjust
to the plan, it’s up to you. It’s been my honor to give you this radio show for 20 years. We’ll
press on as long as the Lord allows us to do so. Thank you for giving me a few moments of your
time this morning. We just finished up a series on the family. If you’ve been listening regularly,
you know the last one that I did the Y in FAMILY dealt with Your Spiritual Life. This is a subject
I just can’t let go of. I’ve got to go back to your spiritual life because there’s an urgency in my
soul's mentality to communicate how important it is for you to understand the difference between
spirituality and spiritual maturity. They are not the same thing. They are two different things. The
word spirituality is a term used for the filling of the Holy Spirit. If we are in a state of sin, we are
performing human good if we are doing tasks like giving money to the church or singing in the
choir or helping out in the community or promoting some cause. It might even be evil. We are
not spiritual if we are carnal and not filled with the Holy Spirit. Right now, at this very moment
you are listening to me, you are either spiritual, filled with the Holy Spirit, or you are carnal,
quenching the Holy Spirit. The difference is, is there unconfessed sin in your life that you haven't
dealt with? Remember rebound is
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive
us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness”
(1 John 1:9). When you fail to rebound,
to name your sin, you remain in a state of carnality. Spirituality and carnality are mutually
exclusive. It’s like a dark room and a bright room. You are either filled with the Holy Spirit or
you're not. The term spiritual life refers to something completely different. Your spiritual life will
not function on a substitute that some people call good works. I call it human good or evil. This
leads us to a question, think about this please. Can I be filled with the Holy Spirit, which means
there is no unconfessed sin in my life, and not function as a spiritually mature Christian? The
answer is absolutely yes. It's found in the difference between sin and evil. Here's what the
difference is. Sin is an act of your volition. You decide to create a sin. You make a choice. You
know it’s wrong. The Holy Spirit tells you it’s wrong. The Scripture tells you it’s wrong but you
do it anyhow. This is a sin. It’s an act of our volition. We all sin. Evil on the other hand is a
system. It is not necessarily an act, it’s a system and it can be a system of good works and good
deeds which appear to be very legitimate Christian production. But in reality, all of these good
works and the good deeds done in carnality will be burned up at the Judgment Seat of Christ,
labeled as being wood, hay and straw. I’ll read to you out of 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 where it says,
“For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
[This is
a builder’s metaphor for building a home. Consider you’ve laid a concrete foundation down and
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you’re going to build on top of the foundation. The foundation is the Lord Jesus Christ.]
Now if
any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,
[These are
two different categories: the gold, silver and precious stones are going to be rewardable and the
wood, hay and straw are good deeds that are not rewardable.]
each man’s work will become
evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test
the quality of each man’s work. If any man’s work which he has built on it remains, he will
receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but
[this is a conjunction of
contrast]
he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.”
This is not about you losing your
salvation, it’s about you losing your rewards in time and in eternity because you failed to live
your spiritual life. It’s not necessarily that you failed to stay filled with the Holy Spirit, but you
failed to produce divine good production called gold, silver and precious stones. It’s not a sin to
feed a hungry person. It’s not a sin to promote a system that offers service to the disadvantaged,
but it definitely can be a process called evil if you substitute this for spiritual good production.
Spiritual good production only comes through the filling of the Holy Spirit and application of
God’s Word. Anything good you do when you're not filled with the Holy Spirit is wood, hay and
straw. For example, if you go to church and you sing in the choir, you give money, you visit
others, and you have known sin in your life, you are doing a good thing but in the wrong way. It
will be burned up at the Judgment Seat of Christ because it's evil. It’s you trying to produce your
own righteousness and it doesn't work. Satan is the originator of all evil. Evil is the policy that he
uses as the ruler of this world. Evil is the modus operandi of Satan from the time of his fall
throughout the angelic revolution and through where he became the ruler of this world. He is the
ruler of this world, John 14:30 tells us this. We don't belong here, we are sojourners, we are just
passing through. Philippians 3:20 says our home is in heaven. The Greek word is
ouranos
. Evil
is Satan's policy to produce a system of good works in mankind and in society that would bring
in a pseudo-millennium. He doesn’t want to go to The Lake of Fire. If he can produce in time a
pseudo-millennium where everybody is good, everybody does good, then he can show God he's
just as good as God is. Of course we know this is not possible because every person has a sin
nature. Again, evil is the policy that Satan produces, human good, human works, right things
done in a wrong way. All evil of Satan has two sources. It can come from sin or it can come from
erroneous thinking. This erroneous thinking is called human good and can be the motivation to
produce evil. If you add human good to the sin of self-righteousness, when they are combined
together in a nation, then you have a saturation of evil. Listen carefully again. If you have a
combination of self-righteousness plus human good, a right thing done in a wrong way, they
combine to saturate the nation in evil. Grace and the Word of God or Scripture represent the
genius of God in relation to the human race. God’s game plan is grace,
“For by grace you have
been saved through faith”
(Ephesians 2:8). Evil represents the genius of Satan in relation to the
human race. God has a plan called grace. Satan has a plan called evil. What’s the difference? Evil
is a counterfeit. In salvation, we are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Under
the concept of evil we are saved by faith plus baptism, or plus good works, or plus giving up
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smoking, or plus doing something. What evil does is it adds a twist to grace. It adds something
onto grace and thus nullifies the grace. Keep this in mind. Evil represents the genius of Satan and
he is best at it in religion where he promotes evil so people will think they're going to heaven.
People will think they are saved because they do some good deeds and this is evil. Recovery
from sin can be instantaneous if after you sin by a mental attitude, your tongue or something
overt, you then use the rebound technique of 1 John 1:9. However, if you get involved in evil, it
takes a long time to recover from this. The only way you're ever going to get out of evil is by
learning God's plan and recovering from your deception. My pastor called it “post-salvation
epistemological rehabilitation.” That’s a big word and it means learning God's plan and
recovering from deception. The number one promoter of evil in this world is organized religion.
Spiritual maturity is your objective. This is what I want you to do, grow to be a spiritually mature
individual, not just be filled with the Holy Spirit, spirituality, but to be spiritually mature. Again,
they are two different things. Spiritual maturity is when a believer has grown to an autonomous
position of spiritual independence. This is being able to stand alone and replicate the life of
Christ by thinking divine viewpoint and functioning as a Christian warrior inside the devil’s
world. In order to lessen the impact of the Word of God, Satan has a plan. Satan doesn't want
people to learn the Word of God because it breaks them free from evil. If he can lessen the
impact of the Word of God, he'll do it. How does he do it? Hold your hat when I tell you this. He
does it by dumbing down believers. Satan can dumb down believers and he does this by
lessening the importance of Scripture and strengthening the appeal of emotion in worship. Never
forget what I'm about to read you and think about the difference between emotion and Scripture.
Hebrews 4:12,
“For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword,
and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge
the thoughts and intentions of the heart.”
This is why you hear me giving you Scripture, not nice
little illustrations. Isaiah 40:8,
“The grass withers, the flower fades, but the Word of our God
stands forever.”
Satan wants to dumb you down. He doesn't want you to learn the Word of God.
He will do anything to stop you from learning the Word of God, some way to distract you, some
way to discourage you, some way to get you into some church where they don't teach the Word
of God. Oh, they may sing songs. They may sing praise and worship and they may get all excited
but they don’t teach you the protocol plan with God. In Romans 10:17,
“So faith comes from
hearing and hearing by the Word of Christ.”
The Bible is the Word of God. Pick it up, read it and
you will hear God speaking to you. It's the Word of God in the inventory of your stream of
consciousness that feeds your thoughts and gives you the insight needed for you to live the
Christian life and bring maximum glorification to God. If you only get taught Scripture for 30
minutes on Sunday morning, you’re never going to learn enough to sustain you in time of
frustration or failure. You’ve got to have more than this, it’s imperative. A 30 minute shot on
Sunday morning is not learning the Word of God. Extended song services, special music from
talented performers might be entertaining and enjoyable as you sit there waving your hands back
and forth but it doesn't plant Scripture in the mentality of your soul. The sad thing is that
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Christian celebrities often travel from city to city, hosting services designed to inspire you in
your walk with Christ. The problem is they charge admission. Yes, that's right, you’ve got to pay
to hear them speak. They sell materials at each of these events like T-shirts, hats and books.
Nobody is ever authorized to sell Scripture, regardless of their celebrity status. In 2 Corinthians
2:17 Paul wrote,
“For we are not like many, peddling the Word of God, but as from sincerity, but
as from God, we speak in Christ in the sight of God.”
This is exactly why we don't charge for
any of our books. We don’t charge for any of our material. You don't sell the Word of God. Our
objective is to become spiritually mature believers, not just spirituality, not just filled with the
Holy Spirit from time to time, but spiritually mature believers that are filled with the Holy Spirit
24/7, learning Scripture 24/7 and operating under this Scripture. We do it by learning and
applying the Word of God to our inventory of ideas in our soul’s mentality. Your soul has
mentality. Your soul has volition. Your soul has a conscience. Your soul has self-consciousness.
The mentality of your soul is where you live the spiritual life. It’s what you think and this
absolutely cannot happen unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit and unless you are studying
Scripture on a daily basis. In 2 Timothy 2:15 we have the command, the mandate from the Word
of God,
“Be diligent
[study]
to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not
need to be ashamed, accurately handling the Word of truth.”
Study is an imperative mood verb.
It's not a request, it’s a command. Show yourself approved. Can you be disapproved? Yes.
Where? At the Judgement Seat of Christ. All the good work you did, all those choir trips you
took, all the money you gave, burn up at the Judgment Seat of Christ as wood, hay and straw
because you were not filled with the Holy Spirit and you did it in your human good efforts that
turned out to be nothing but evil. We don't need to be ashamed. What does this mean? It means
we want to hear God say, “Well done, My good and faithful servant.” To do this we must rightly
divide the Word of God. Can you wrongly divide the Word of God? Yes. This is why I implore
you to get under the ministry of a well-qualified pastor who can teach you Scripture the correct
way, line upon line, word upon word, and not just give you a lot of little stories and illustrations.
I talk to people every day about this. It's really pitiful that the believer who wants to grow
spiritually contacts me and asks, “Where can I find a well-qualified pastor? Where can I find
somebody to teach me something?” It’s pitiful that people who want to grow spiritually can’t
find a pastor that will teach them on a consistent basis and will have them purchase some
devotional book so they can get a short appetizer of spiritual insight daily. That’s right, they have
to go to the bookstore and buy somebody's daily devotional and read it. This is not growing
spiritually, it’s an appetizer. Spiritual maturity represents the maximum spiritual growth of the
believer in time. Spiritual maturity is God’s objective for keeping you here in time after you are
saved. He could have taken you on to heaven but He left you for a reason. Spiritual maturity is
the divine objective for each one of us in time, the purpose for all commands of Scripture related
to time. It’s the only way that we will ever glorify the Lord Jesus Christ in time and it is the basis
for temporal and eternal rewards and blessings. I said a lot. I probably don't need to say it again
but I want to, one more time. Spiritual maturity is a divine objective for the believer in time. God
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wants you to grow up to be a spiritually mature believer. It’s the purpose for all the commands of
Scripture related to time. Study, grow, learn, these are all commands. The only way you can
glorify the Lord Jesus Christ in time is to learn to operate the spiritual life and reproduce Christ
in your life. This is the basis for all blessing both in time and eternity. With all the social media
impact in today's world, the opportunity for deception is found around every corner, I promise
you. I'm amazed at the churches that promote activities. What do they do? They want to attract
the little children. “Come for the Halloween party. Come for the Christmas party. We’ve got
dancing and balloons. We’ve got hot dogs. We’ve got popcorn. Let us entertain you.” It’s all
designed to ultimately recruit the parents. I’m all for getting mom and dad into Christ. I’m all for
teaching them the Word of God. I’m all for the kids learning to come to church, but I'm not all
for using gimmicks and games to try to recruit the children. I’m amazed at the churches that
don't know how to address the King of kings and the Lord of lords, our Lord Jesus Christ. I
shudder when I hear them talk about the Lord Jesus Christ as if He was their best buddy or their
best friend. I hear them talk about Jesus this and Jesus that and the Jesus way. He is the Lord
Jesus Christ, the King of kings and the Lord of lords. When you talk about Him, address Him
properly. Listen to Philippians 2:10-11,
“So that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of
those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
[This is how powerful that name is.
He is not, “Jesus.” He is the Lord Jesus Christ.]
and that every tongue will confess that Jesus
Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.”
Our Lord Jesus Christ became a man. He emptied
Himself of His divine operational assets. Theologians call this the hypostatic union. It is called
God and man in one body forever. He is the God-man. He is in heaven today as God and He's in
heaven today as a man in a resurrected body. He came into this world as a human in order that
He might rescue us from sin and death. Philippians 2:7-8 tells us,
“But emptied Himself, taking
the form of a bond-servant
[
doulos
]
, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in
appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even
death on a cross.”
This is what He did. He emptied Himself of His divine operational assets. He
never used His deity to sustain His humanity while He was here. He lived like a man, thought
like a man, ate like a man, walked like a man and demonstrated to you that He knew that it was
possible to live like this. He followed His Father's orders all the way to the cross. As a man the
Lord Jesus Christ demonstrated how it's possible to live in the devil’s world and glorify God to
the maximum. He did this by living the prototype spiritual life. Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior
tested and proved this spiritual life for us. We call it the prototype spiritual life because He was
the first one to live the Christian life. He lived it and demonstrated it to us. Now we offer up
spiritual sacrifices by the fulfillment of the stages of the adult spiritual life. Spiritual self-esteem,
spiritual autonomy and eventually spiritual maturity is what we do. God does not want us to offer
sacrifices. He does not want offerings. He wants us to sacrifice to Him by learning to live and
produce the spiritual life. Listen to Hosea 6:6,
“For I delight in loyalty rather than sacrifice, and
in the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings.”
This is what God wants from you. He
wants you to understand Him and know Him. Hebrews 13:15,
“Through Him then, let us
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continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to His
name.”
Listen to Jeremiah 9:24,
“‘But let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and
knows Me, that I am the Lord who exercises lovingkindness, justice and righteousness on earth;
for I delight in these things,’ declares the Lord.”
I’ve told you this before and I remind you,
there's a difference between knowing God and understanding God, and I assure you, Satan does
not want you to understand the God you know. If you don't understand the protocol plan of God,
you wind up doing all the right things in the wrong way, neutralized by being dumbed down by
the devil. You know all the words of the hymns and all the words to the praise and worship songs
but you don't understand the God you claim you worship and you're not going to take time to
correct the mistake and this is pitiful. The spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God are simply, as I'm
about to put it to you right now. Stay filled with the Holy Spirit. This is called spirituality. How
do you stay filled with the Holy Spirit? When you sin, confess the sin. Rebound, recover from
the sin, problem-solving device #1. The second spiritual sacrifice is Operation Z. What does this
mean? It means you’ve got to have a pastor and stay filled with the Holy Spirit. You’ve got to
understand what the pastor teaches you and then you have to believe it and apply it into your life.
We call it LAG, learn, apply and glorify God. These are your two power options, the filling of
the Holy Spirit and learning and applying the Word of God in your life, and glorify God to the
max. The third spiritual sacrifice are the 10 problem-solving devices we call the FLOT line of
your soul. Rebound, the filling of the Holy Spirit, the faith-rest drill, grace orientation, doctrinal
orientation, a personal sense of destiny, personal love for God, impersonal love for all, sharing
the happiness of God and lastly, occupation with the Lord Jesus Christ. Finally, as you are filled
with the Holy Spirit, sitting under the ministry of a well-qualified pastor, learning and deploying
the problem-solving devices in your life, you execute to the fullest of your ability the protocol
plan of God. You go from being a spiritual infant to being a spiritually mature individual,
replicating and re-presenting the life of Jesus Christ. The question that I must ask is, where are
you in this process? Where are you today? Have you grown to become the spiritually mature
individual we’re talking about? The spiritual life is critical. If I ask you, how is your spiritual
life? What would you say? Are you growing in grace? Are you re-presenting Christ? Are you
becoming the person that I'm talking about, filled with the Holy Spirit, using operation Z,
functioning under a well-qualified pastor, learning the 10 problem-solving devices, executing the
protocol plan of God? There’s a lot I just said. I rattled them off quickly. I hope you're listening.
If you don't understand this, get in contact with me. We’ve got a book we’ll send you called
Christian Problem Solving
that lays it all out, free of charge. Until next week, this is your host
Rick Hughes saying thank you for listening to The FLOT Line.
Join us for an insightful discussion on local governance and energy innovation. John Rush critiques the decision to disband Morrison’s police force and scrutinizes the charge train concept, sparking a vigorous debate on sustainable energy solutions. The episode also provides practical advice for winter home preparation, ensuring listeners are ready for potential plumbing and entryway issues. Tune in to understand the intricacies of these developments and how they impact your community.
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all joining us today. I didn't get a chance during the first hour because we had a lot going on. Question of the day, what are the names, this is from Friday, what are the names of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West's kids? North, Saint, Chicago, and Psalm. That is the answer to Friday's question of the day. Today's question of the day. What were the last four words in President Franklin Roosevelt's speech declaring war on Japan on December 8th, 1941? And Pearl Harbor Day, of course, was over the weekend. So answer that question on our Facebook page now. One thing I wanted to put out today, because it takes a little bit of time for Charlie to put this done. In the past, we've always done Christmas song requests on Christmas Day. So those of you that would like to hear your favorite Christmas song, and you guys all know, at least you should, those of you maybe that are new to our program and haven't listened since last Christmas, or started listening since last Christmas, I should say, I don't do Christmas songs all month long. We do them for about a week. And that's about it. And yes, we will do Christmas songs on Christmas Day. And in the past, we've even added a few little things in between some songs and so on. I'm not sure exactly this year how we're going to do that. Yeah, all music. You're not going to hear any reruns, me talking, nobody talking. It'll be a collection of songs. Now, what I'm saying is if you'd like to hear a particular song, please text me what your request is, and I will forward those on to Charlie307.com. 200-8222. Now, I get it. It's Christmas Day. A lot of people are busy doing things and so on. You may not even be able to listen that day, which we fully understand. But there are some that can and some that want to. And for those of you that will be and want to and you want to hear your song, please, you know, again, give me that message and send me what that song is, what you'd like to hear played. And we have got a – Charlie, is there really any Christmas songs we can't get a hold of? I mean, we pretty much have everything. Yeah, so you guys name it, we have it. Old, new, in between, you know, comedy stuff, you name it. You know, you tell us what it is. And as long as it meets FCC approval – we will play that song for you. So 307-200-8222. And I'll mention that each day, but it takes Charlie a little bit of time to get all that assembled. So I'll do that for this week and next, but the week of Christmas, we will not be asking any longer because we'll give Charlie a couple of days that way to get things put together. So again, for those of you that would like to have a particular Christmas song played that day, please let me All right, last hour, I kind of started talking about it, and then we had our special guest, then Joe called in from Jersey, and I didn't get a chance to get to it, but the town of Morrison, which I've talked about in the past, and I've talked in particular about the police department in Morrison. And it's well known, maybe if you're a transplant it's not, but for those of you that lived here for any length of time, you all know that you don't speed in the town of Morrison. or even around the town of Morrison. You have to even be careful traveling 285 or 470 around the town of Morrison because if you're going even a little bit over the speed limit, you're liable to get stopped and ticketed. Well, that's probably going to change. It was announced just this last week. that the Morrison Town Board is going to disband its police department. They've had some issues with the chiefs and so on. And frankly, somebody called in on Saturday and asked if I think this is because of, you know, Bandimere Speedway going away. Is this part of it? You know, I honestly don't know. I don't know all of the inner workings of the town and what went on in the meeting and so on. Maybe, although I think what it really comes down to is it's extremely expensive to run these. They've been trying to do it off of the ticketing end of things, which, frankly, is a recipe for disaster and typically doesn't work. And I think it's finally come to a head to where they finally figured out that, budgetarily speaking, this is not cost effective. And, by the way, there's lots of towns – In Colorado, whereby the local sheriff will handle all of those things the town needs. And this is what's going to happen here in Morrison is Jefferson County Sheriff has agreed to backfill. Now, I don't know if there'll be a charge for that or how that works. I'm not privy of all of that. But even if it is, I'm sure it is much less than what it's been taking for them to run an entire police department. So bottom line. That department is going away. Now, when is it going away? You know, I didn't do a lot of research to determine exactly when that's going to happen, but I think it's going to happen here in the not-too-distant future. So you could probably go and look that up on some of the town notes and so on and figure that out exactly. But, you know, am I disappointed in seeing that go away? No. In fact, I think this is a good thing for Morrison. At the end of the day, they'll end up with the police force through the sheriff's department that they actually need because, frankly, the police department in Morrison itself has been more worried about writing tickets, again, on 470 and 285 and places like that than they have actually policing the town. For those of you that don't know, the town of Morrison proper – I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say this. You could walk Main Street slowly and go from one end to the other in less than five minutes. And I'm not exaggerating. If you don't know how big the town is, look it up on a map. It's not very big. Now, I get it. The police department, you know, they usually would handle some things with, you know, red rocks and some of the surrounding areas and so on. But again, that'll get backfilled just fine. And at the end of the day, I believe this is actually a better use and a better role of government than what it's been in the past. A town as small as Morrison doesn't need a police force. And there's several of them around. I won't name names, but there's several of them around that have their own that don't need it. It's a waste of money. And typically all they're doing is hassling people driving through by writing tickets for very low infraction items, and they're collecting their revenue that way, and it's not a good look, in my opinion. So those of you that maybe are up in that area and or you've traveled through Morrison and you've had a ticket in the past, sounds like those days are numbered and you won't have to worry about that much longer. Now, that doesn't mean you're going to be willy-nilly and just speed around and the Sheriff's Department won't write you a ticket. They will as well, but will they be doing and policing what Morrison has done in the past? I highly doubt that. Hi-Fi Plumbing is next, folks. Make sure you're dialed in when it comes to your plumbing and electrical needs with our shorter daylight days and the fact that, hey, plumbing can be a big issue even in the middle of winter. Give Hi-Fi a call today. 877-WE-HI-5.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. There was an article I read in the Colorado Sun late last week that I wanted to talk about today because we talk a lot about transportation. I've even got some comments from Governor Polis on what he feels transportation for Colorado should look like. We talk a lot about energy and politics and all sorts of things. There was an article in the Colorado Sun. talking about these charge trains. And you're going to think to yourself, what is a charge train? Well, it's a train, locomotive, With these rail cars that are full of rechargeable batteries, large batteries that can be then packed back into the grid. Essentially, I've not seen them. By the way, I think this is probably the stupidest idea I think I've ever seen. And yes, I will say that. The idea being. These batteries will be charged somewhere down in the Pueblo area because they feel like there's more sunshine there. And I guess they can do whatever infrastructure they need to charge these batteries. They will then track these, you know, train these all the way to Denver, plug into our grid and help offset some of what it takes to run the grid. The track itself is being called the Transmission Line. Nice words, by the way, is all they're using here. And it's called Sun Train. And I guess NREL and some of the other folks out there think this is really a great deal. They're using a $10 million federal grant. Now, folks, this is the kind of stuff that Doge, Elon Musk, and Vivek Ramaswamy need to kill. This is absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Who in their right mind thinks that somehow, some way, you're going to save doing this? I'm speechless. I really, I have no words. They're going to basically take this charge train and charge it in Pueblo, drive it all the way to Denver's Cherokee Power Station, where they will then plug in. It will power 20,000 homes for an hour or 1,000 homes for a full day. Now, you tell me how, economically speaking, you can take this sun train from Pueblo charge it there, drive it all the way up here, the fuel, time, energy, etc. And by the way, all of these environmentalists think that these trains, I guess, just show up free, with nothing ever used to create them in the first place. And these battery packs, and, and, and, I mean, they act like this stuff just shows up, that you don't have to require any energy to any natural resources, you know, any rare earth metals to create these. They just act like they show up. And then once they show up, you pump energy, you know, you pump power into them. They store the power and then bring it up and stick it into the grid and it'll power a thousand homes for a day. What an absolute moronic idea. And, you know, I did think through this. So I didn't just, you know, off the cuff say, what a stupid idea. I thought to myself, OK, let's think about this for a minute. We've got a train. And by the way, I don't know how many of these batteries it actually takes to make this happen. It's a train, car-sized, iron phosphate battery. So each one of these trains can power 1,000 homes for a day. I don't know what they weigh. I don't know how many of these they can actually pull with one particular locomotive. How many locomotives do they need? I mean, if you look at some of the coal rail cars that are out there and how many engines required to pull those along, I mean, let's say you stacked 50 of these, and I don't know if they've even got 50 of these. Let's say they stacked 50 of them back and forth so you could actually do 5,000 homes or 50,000 homes, I should say. even then is it worth doing? I don't know. And what I'd like to know is, you know, these articles will say, well, yeah, this is a great way to, you know, offset power and do a cleaner. Where's the math? And none of these articles, is there ever any math done? For example, I get it. The rail is already there. But, you know, what's it take to create and dedicate a locomotive, the fuel that it takes to make that run back and forth? You know, the battery weight will be the same whether it's charged or empty. So you'll have the same fuel use up versus down, maybe a little bit less down because of the elevation. But you get my drift. I've always wanted to know the math when these proponents come up and say, oh, yeah, this is a great way for clean energy. Prove it. Show me. Show me whereby running this sun train from Pueblo to Denver is actually a savings at the end of the day, you know, environmentally and or monetarily, one or the other or both. If you're claiming it's both, I want to see it. And then I want to see if we take clean natural gas and we run a station from that and it produces enough power to run these same thousand homes for a day. What's the difference? I would almost guarantee you, I'd at least bet a $100 bill on it, that the clean natural gas power plant will do far more for far less dollars and investment and environmental damage than these trains running these batteries will. And I'm saying that just because I know how efficient our clean natural gas in Colorado is. We have an abundance of, and I would be hard-pressed to believe that it doesn't do more so than what these batteries will do on this train. This sun train, they call it. And again, as I said, you read through this article. Nowhere will you find the math of what I just explained. They just talk about how it will be more efficient at the end of the day, but nowhere in here do they talk about how the math equates to where this actually, in fact, is a savings when it's all said and done. I highly, highly, highly doubt there's any savings when it's all said and done. I would venture to guess that it's a—I'll go out on a limb here and say it's 10 to 1, 1 being clean natural gas, clean coal versus this. That would be my guess. John and Cheyenne, you're next.
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All right, well, let's start with something simple. How much fossil fuels or organic fuels, whatever you want to call it, is going to go into the construction of these batteries?
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A ton.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let's start there. Right.
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A ton.
SPEAKER 06 :
They never talk about that.
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They never talk about that, John. No, not at all. Never.
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And we've talked about that with EVs. How much fossil fuel goes into EVs to make them before they ever roll off the assembly line?
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Right.
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Right. So... That's that. Second, who owns those tracks?
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Oh, those, as you know, those are all run by the big railroads. In that case, it's either BSNF or Union, one of the two.
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Yeah, and what do you think they're going to charge to rent on that?
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They don't run on them for free. Let's just say that, John. Or they will charge you to haul the cars back and forth, one or the other.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, or they'll charge you, if you want your own engine, they would charge you a lease for the track.
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That's right.
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All right, next question. Sorry, next question. What powers those trains? Diesel. Exactly. It's an electric... A lot of diesel, by the way. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of diesel. And if you've seen the smoke come off of the top of those... Yeah, how environmentally friendly is that, John?
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Because they're exempt from all emissions, by the way.
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Yeah, it's... There you go. Right there and then. Meanwhile... If you ever look up, if you want to look up some clean-burning coal mines, look up the WyoDak mines outside of Gillette, Wyoming. They're some of the cleanest power plants in the world. And the company who owns them would probably build another generating station if they just could get the permits to do it because they could sell the power cheaper than anywhere else. Because one of the things they did, I don't know if you've ever been up there, Instead of building the power plant and moving the coal to the power plant, they built the power plant at the coal mine, so they saved the cost of transporting the coal to the power plant. They used conveyor belts and big trucks to move it.
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What I see happening here, John, is the owner of SunTrain, and by the way, these will be solar-powered to charge the batteries as well. So what I look at on here is the chief technology officer, Chris Smith, basically talked about this. He's also the co-founder. Frankly, John, as I know how a lot of these things that get funded from government work, the only buddy that will benefit at the end of the day are the founders.
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It's a scam. It's another scam. That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's a scam.
SPEAKER 06 :
Like you said before I called, this is what Doge needs to make go away. Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
Get rid of the $10 million that's funding this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Say, hey, if you think it's worth it and you think it's monetarily sound, go get some investors, sell some stock, and try to make it on your own. Yep. It's the same thing with the wind farm I'm looking at out my window. There would have not been one windmill one built if it wasn't for government subsidies. If they had to do it and make it profitable, they would never have one windmill built because they're not profitable.
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This is another one of these that, as you know, John, you've been in that industry before. If this were a viable solution, Xcel Energy would already be doing it.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, I'll give you a prime example of the stupidity... Which goes for government money. They're building a huge solar farm south of Cheyenne, almost to the Colorado line, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
First hailstorm. Oh, geez. It's done.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
You've got to think about it, because if you look... Did you see those pictures from last year? Oh, yeah. Sure did. Of that Nebraska solar farm? Sure did. Same thing can happen here. That's right. Anywhere, you know, up and down a front range, you can get a hailstorm and destroy the whole thing. So... I don't know, John. Hopefully, what do we got, 35 more days until Trump?
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Yeah, hopefully he kills all sorts of things along these lines because the reality, again, as I said earlier, John, and I'm not a naysayer. You know me. I like technology. I like new things. I'm willing to try new things out. But at the end of the day, the first time I read this, and I read it a couple of different times, I'm thinking to myself, I mean, this is like selling snake oil. How in the world these guys got money to do this is beyond me. What a bunch of nonsense.
SPEAKER 06 :
Here's what you ought to look at. Who did they contribute to? What congressmen and senators did they give money to to help get this pushed through?
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Yeah, because, you know, I just know as a car guy even, John, when you start factoring all the things that you just mentioned, Andy texted and talked about, you know, the rare earth metal thing, which I talked about a little bit as well. I mean, you factor all of those things in. There's no way this thing's a win-win situation.
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It's a dog. It's insane. Yep, it is. John, you have a great rest of your day. Thanks, John. Appreciate you very much.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. Richard Rush joining us now. Okay, Richard, over the weekend, the Chiefs got lucky, literally lucky again.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well... They did get lucky. Now, granted, granted, if it wasn't for Jim Harbaugh, and no offense to Jim, I love him, love him as a coach. Hate that he's in our division, but love him as a coach. If he hadn't taken the idea that, oh, we can, you know, stop Patrick Mahomes on this, you know, on a, you know, potentially on a fourth down play or a third down play or whatever it might be, then he might have had better luck. But, yeah, you know, Patrick Mahomes is really hard to stop in that four-minute drill that, and then you go down and you get the luck of the goal posts. to help you secure the victory. I don't know what else there is to say other than we talked about it last week. Either the Chiefs are going to continue to get lucky, it's just going to be their year, and it's just going to happen, or it's going to run out and the Chiefs fans may want to hope that it runs out before they get to the playoffs and so they can get it out of the way, or maybe not. I guess I'm not sure yet. But, yeah, just frustrating as a Broncos fan, I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, okay, so how does this shake out? You know, the Bills, all of that. I mean, after the weekend, how is everything shaping up?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah, Bills lose to the Rams. I think they were looking ahead to their game next week. I believe they play the Lions. It's opened itself up to, well, there's a lot of possibilities. The only thing for sure is the Lions are in the playoffs. The Chiefs are in the playoffs. The Chiefs won the AFC West yesterday by winning. In theory, the Chiefs have to win, I think it's two of their last four games, and then no matter what else happens, they lock up the number one seed, which is a decent possibility. I believe they play the Browns, the Texans, someone else in there, and then they play the Broncos, Dad. So what this means to the Broncos is they've got to take care of business next week against the Chiefs. or the Chiefs, the Colts, if they win against there, then they've just got to win one of their remaining three games, and the Dolphins have to lose one of their games, and if they do that, the Broncos will be in the playoffs. So basically the Broncos have to play 500 football the rest of the way, and mind you, Dad, that very last game of the year against the Chiefs, the Chiefs could be playing for nothing. because they could have locked up the number one seat. And so for the Broncos, they've just got to keep doing what they're doing. They have several tough games coming up. Honestly, their next three are tough. They play the Colts. They then play at the Chargers, and then they get a long kind of week to prepare for the Bengals. Again, win two of those three, one Miami Dolphin loss, The Broncos are in the playoffs pretty much no matter what. That kind of clinches it for them. So they're on track, Dan. They just got to sort of finish it off, and I guess we'll see. It's the sign of a young team to maybe not do that, but I think Sean Payton will get them kind of going in the right direction. I think he'll get them going where they're supposed to be going, I guess you could say, and kind of focus in as they need to. So exciting there. The college football playoff, Dan, also came out. The first time it's 12 teams. That was introduced yesterday. And, well, it'll be, I don't know, it'll be interesting, Dad, because you've got the first four games are actually on campus, which has never happened before. And so you've got the possibility of some of these more, I think we talked about this a little bit last week too or the week before, some of these southern teams maybe playing in some colder weather. For example, Tennessee plays at Ohio State today. here in a few weeks? Well, Ohio in winter can get snow, and that will be interesting, right? I don't even think Tennessee's ever played in snow.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 05 :
And so some of these things there, you've got Indiana playing Notre Dame, SMU is playing Penn State, again, a team from Dallas, a team from Texas, playing against uh... yet even if they'd be playing up north in pennsylvania that could be interesting uh... and then i'm missing one of the one i think vocal clemson is going to texas so that that'll be another one for one but yeah for a first year of it that it'll be interesting to see how it's expanded i think the committee actually did a decent job uh... they left alabama out that kind of all the rage right now that's happening in the in the college football world is all the alabama fans are mad because their team was left out but what i would say the same thing i would say the buff fans which is, you know, if you do your job and you win your games, you don't have this issue. You don't have anything to complain about.
SPEAKER 16 :
True. Good point. Yeah, which in both cases they didn't do enough of.
SPEAKER 05 :
You are correct, and that's ultimately what it comes down to. You know, again, we're talking about a lot of things, right? We talked about elections and all sorts of things, right? If you just take care of yourself, you do your job, and you win, then you don't really have anyone else to point to except for yourself. And, you know, like you started out this segment, In reference to the Chiefs, another situation where they do their job, as painful as it is sometimes, they do their job and they kind of go from there. So it'll be, like I said, interesting upcoming weeks. Normally you don't have college football going this deep, to be honest with you, or this late in the season, or you do, but not with the type of games. Correct. So again, first year of this new 12-team playoff, a lot of people think it's going to expand to 16 teams at some point in time. We'll see. I still think it may not be that much or may even get larger than that. And then the Buffs, they play in the Alamo Bowl, which is a letdown, Dad, because it's not the college football playoff like we talked about. However, it is basically the highest bowl you can get to without being in the college football playoff. Basically, they get the first pick. Now, granted, there's some tie-ins that they have to group in. Basically, it had to be an old Pac-12 school and a big 12 school. But I'm just going to show you. CU is a draw. And one thing, Daddy, a lot of people have given Deion and his grief for a lot of different things he's done. One thing he said, because this has been a trend over the past few years, is the top players... not playing in bowl games, right, for fear of injury.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, right, right.
SPEAKER 05 :
All those different things. And it actually happened to Deion's alma mater last year, or one of his alma maters, with Florida State. They had a bunch of guys. They weren't in the college football playoff. It was a big deal. They opted out of the game. Well, Deion kind of sort of hinted at that wasn't going to be his by saying, nope, all of his guys are going to play. And I think that he's, you know, we've talked about this a little bit, where he's more old school than I think people like to give him credit for. Right. And this is one of the ways where he's not letting his players get off. To just say, hey, you guys are essentially going to come and finish what you started. Now, right, wrong, or otherwise, does this game mean anything? Well, it means something to the fans, Dad, because at CU, the last two bowl games we played had been the Alamo Bowl. And we have gotten destroyed each time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
Slaughtered. Back in, I think, yeah, I think 2014, 2016, somewhere around there, we got killed. And then we played, I can't remember who we played before then, maybe Clemson. And we got destroyed there, too. So it's just, it hasn't been a great situation. Maybe it was Texas we played. It hasn't been a great situation. So for CU, Dad, this is our first 10-win season in a number of years if we win this bowl game. It's an opportunity to go to a bowl game, to actually compete. And then, honestly, for CU fans, it's the last time to see Shador and Travis Hunter. Who should... Be the likely Heisman winner, Dad.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's one thing I was going to ask you about, too, before we close out this particular segment on the whole Heisman end of things. Not that it's everything, but it is a lot. And to have a player from your school, your team, win that award, that's a very high honor. And as you know, it doesn't come that often, although I feel, unfortunately, there's a lot of politics involved.
SPEAKER 05 :
There's a lot of politics. Well, and one thing that we've got going for us is Deion has played that well, and he has gotten the CU team to play it well because they have marketed our nominee, who is Travis Hunter, extremely well, and they've gotten him a lot of publicity, and he's gone on shows, and he's done a lot of things. And here's the deal with that. There's really two top guys, right? There's Travis Hunter, and then there's the kid for the running back for Boise State, Ashley Gentry, who, you know, he's right up there in, you know, all-time rushing yardage. He's got a the ability to, or potential to pass Barry Sanders, depending on how he does in his college football game, although you can argue about that because he's had more games to do it, blah, blah, blah. Here's what I will say to this. There's going to be other great running backs that come after Ashton Genting. That's nothing, that's not a slide against him.
SPEAKER 16 :
And really quick, too, you're also not knocking the Mountain West Conference, but you're not in, you know, the SEC or the Big 12, or am I wrong in saying that?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, well, you're 100% correct. I watched him on Friday, and I think he's a good player. I think he'll actually compete well.
SPEAKER 16 :
I did too, but he's not playing against the same players that Hunter is.
SPEAKER 05 :
You are correct, and there's a difference. And the difference is Travis Hunter is arguably the top receiver and top defensive back, even though he wasn't even nominated for the top defensive back award, which is just a whole other conversation. It's crazy that, real quick on that, the top defensive back in the nation award is Jim Thorpe, right? Well, what do we know Jim Thorpe for? Playing multiple positions, right? Both ways. That's what Jim Thorpe did. And the fact that Travis Hunter, who does that, wasn't nominated, just crazy. But he really is arguably the best corner and best receiver in college football this year. Best overall player, most outstanding. There's just never really been someone who does it as well as he does. on both sides of the ball, and he does it not even sparingly. He does it all game. He really doesn't take a playoff. It's truly astounding. And so, again, there's no slight against Ashton Gentry. I think he's a very willing or not willing, deserving runner-up, and I think in any other year he probably would have won it. However, there's been other group of five running backs that have done really, really well. Several guys from San Diego State who are in, I think, the top five all-time or top ten of individual rushing seasons. And I think maybe they made it to the ceremony, but they didn't win it. And so ultimately, I think Travis should do it. And back to what I was saying, CU's done a really good job marketing. We'll know the finalists here in about an hour, which obviously he will be one of them. And then we'll know who ends up winning it this Saturday after the Army-Navy game.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. As a part of what we do for Saturdays on Drive Radio, we do a car review almost every week, Richard. We do as much as we can. And before we get into that really quick, for those of you listening, a lot of you will be out there looking at end of the year, businesses, taxes, all sorts of things. Great time to buy a car, by the way. There's lots of inventory, some pretty good deals out there. But, Richard, you recently drove a 2025 Genesis GV80. 3.5 turbo prestige all-wheel drive.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so this is kind of a mouthful, Dad, but yeah, 2025 GV80. There's several different trim levels to choose from, as you know and as some of the listeners know. Genesis sort of does it kind of. You sort of buy the trim level, right? There's not necessarily additional add-ons and stuff you do. They're definitely available, but you kind of buy the trim level you want. And you can get this car, Dad, for less than $60,000 if you want to opt for that a little bit smaller engine, the four-cylinder turbocharged, which still works great. Or you can kind of go to the higher end, which is where we were at, which is the V6, twin-turbo V6, I should say, which worked really, really well. Fuel economy, 16 and 22 for an average of 19. And, Dad, the one we had is right up there. This class of car, this not extra-large SUV, but I'm still going to call it a large SUV, right? This larger size SUV class SUV. that doesn't necessarily have the third row, but it's got plenty of room in the second row, is becoming a very, very competitive class, especially in the luxury segment, which is where this Genesis is meant to be. And at $81,000, you would expect that. And some of you listeners are going, Richard and John, $81,000. What I would say, folks, is look at some other competitors. And for a car similarly equipped, you're going to be $10,000, even $20,000 higher for a very similarly equipped car. So what has Genesis done, Dad? Well, they introduced this car, let me see here, back in 2021, kind of the first GV80 generation. So this year, not a whole lot's changed. Some subtle exterior changes, enhancements, whatever you want to say it. And the instrument cluster is now one nice big 27-inch display. It's got a lot of the creature comforts that you would expect on a vehicle of this price point in size. Massaging front seats, heated and cooled. You've got heated seats in the back. I think you've even got cooled seats in the second row. This one, Dad, was outfitted not with the third row seats, But sort of with the, I'm going to call it, and I'm probably going to butcher it, so my apologies, Genesis. I'm going to call it the chauffeur's second row. And what I mean by that is basically the second row is more of a... Well, it's more of a you can have it as a chauffeur car, right? If you're an executive, you want someone to drive you around, it's got the ability to do that because the second row passenger can actually move forward the front passenger seat if they desire, give them some more leg room. They can actually recline those seats a little bit. It's got your color-changing interior. It's got a fragrance dispenser in it. I could go on and on, Dad, about the list of technology in it. But Genesis has done that, and you see this badge, and honestly, Dad, you see this car, and I'll say it, even at $80,000, you think this car's worth a lot more money than that. And they've done a phenomenal job at it. They really have some cool tech, Dad, and you can sort of speak to this as far as suspension-wise goes to where it actually has cameras. that search the road in front of you and find, basically, find potholes, whatever it might be, and essentially prepare the suspension for said environment, right, that it's getting ready to go over. So, yeah, so maybe the right side is going to go over a bump. Well, it can actually anticipate that, have the suspension system plan for that just on the right side and keep you going as smoothly as you can. And I will say this, Dad. Driving down the road in this car, it is smooth, it is quiet. And it's just something that you get in this car and you feel luxurious. It's even got this mood, Dad, or this mode where it sets the mood or kind of lets you be in this zen mode where you can sit in the car and it can massage you and it plays this relaxing music. So you can just kind of veg out for a second, to be honest with you. So it's a really cool vehicle. You've driven some Genesis over the years, and they've honestly kind of – they tend to impress every time you get in them, don't they? Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know, Genesis is a brand that for a lot of folks, and they're becoming more and more popular because you get a lot of car for the money, and I've said it numerous times, you know, you're going to go spend in a lot of cases, you know, depending upon the model of Genesis and so on and what you're competing against, but anywhere from... 20 to 50 grand more to go find another like luxury vehicle, like the one you're, you're looking at on the Genesis side. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that that's how much of a better value they are than some of the other vehicles that are on the road. And for those that are listening, yes, Hyundai is the parent company, but there is no other Hyundai Kia that matches what Genesis is doing. It literally is its own line. Uh, It's a lot like what some of the other luxury car makers do that are out there as well. So, no, it is not like the other sister companies that are there underneath the Hyundai brand or the Hyundai label, if you would. Richard, Genesis is its own deal, if you would, and they build a very nice luxury car for a very great value.
SPEAKER 05 :
They do. And the other thing is, as we've talked about this before, they're willing to stand behind it in terms of their warranty, right? Right. unlimited mile anti-perforation warranty this is on top of some complimentary rate maintenance and some service valet that that you get by buying the genesis which like you said is in is in direct competition to some of the other manufacturers right some of the other luxury brands right that are kind of doing some of that so overall that i i was i was pleased with it like you say business is getting to the end of the year i don't know if it's necessarily you know fits your requirements, whatever you're looking to do. But I would strongly encourage you, if you're looking for a large luxury SUV or whatever you want to refer to it as, right, enough for four full-size adults without any issues at all, I would encourage folks, head to your local Genesis dealer, test drive it, get out and experience this car. And if it's been a while since you have, I really encourage you to do that because I think you'll be really happy. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, Richard, with that, I will let you go really quick, though, before I do. It looks like the billionaire Fiat Air has assumed control of Stellantis after the last CEO left. It'll be interesting to see what happens because right now Stellantis is definitely on the struggle bus.
SPEAKER 05 :
They definitely need a little bit of aid, some new ideas, and, well, a new direction, let's just say. So we'll be watching.
SPEAKER 16 :
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Join host John Rush as he welcomes Mike Goldstein, the creative mind behind the captivating children's book series 'The Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew.' Discover the inspiration rooted in bedtime stories shared with his grandson that led to the creation of these timeless adventures. Dive into a discussion about the significance of children's literacy and how Mike's books aim to instill a love for reading through a unique blend of fantasy and factual knowledge. As the holiday season approaches, Mike shares exciting news about book giveaways and special discounts, making 'The Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew' the perfect family gift. Listen in to learn how these stories not only entertain but also serve as a valuable educational tool, encouraging young readers to explore history, geography, and more, through the eyes of a curious boy and his immortal canine companion. With discussions on literacy challenges faced by today’s youth, this episode sheds light on the essential role of parental involvement in reading. Tune in for an engaging conversation that promises to inspire both children and adults to delve into the magical world of books.
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right. Happy Monday, everybody. Welcome. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all. Hope you had a great, fantastic weekend. We got two weeks prior to Christmas now, or Christmas week, I should say. I know that it's not actually two weeks from Christmas. It's just a tad over that. But most people will be doing things the week of the 25th of Christmas. and in preparation for that, we've got a great new partner to Rush to Reason. I talked about him a little bit last week, but Mike is with us today. Mike Goldstein, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm doing fine. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 13 :
Joy to have you. I met Mike last week, and for those of you listening, you've heard some of the commercials running for the, we'll call them the kids' books, but it's The Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew, and you've heard the commercials running now for a little over a week plus now, but Mike, you're the author of...
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
So, as I always say when we first get going here, why? What got this going in the first place?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it started with stories that I told my grandson. I've always been a storyteller, and I told my kids stories. And then when my grandson moved away, he would call me every night for a poppy story.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's what he called me.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I would make up stories for him, and we would do it every night. And his favorite stories were the adventures of Jimmy and Andrew. And my former wife and my daughter asked, you know, begged me to put these in writing. And so I finally did. And the first book in the series is American Stonehenge, which is the one you've been promoting.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it's the first book in this particular series of the adventures of Jimmy and Andrew.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, and for those of you listening, first of all, I have a book that Mike gave me that I actually have in hand. And this is not – and Mike will talk about this – but this is not your typical children's book. I'll just say that straight up. I actually have a copy. This is, of course, as Mike just said, book one. And what I will tell you is this is a book that – will last you a lifetime and probably go through several different generations if you so choose, if you'll keep it that long. The quality of the book is such that you could easily do that, Mike, and hopefully people will do that. That's the idea, and we'll get into more of why you want folks to actually do this in the first place. Well, before we get going, though, because I want to make sure we have time to do this. We are going to give some of these books away today. So for those of you that have kids or grandkids and you want to be involved in this, and I'm just going to tell you straight up, this is one of those books that, again, you will keep not just for you, but you will have it around for generations to come. So, Mike, how many are we giving away? I think we're giving five books away. Okay, five books. So the way this is going to work is five of you need to call in, first five, Not five of you, but the first five call in 303-477-5600. I can't do this on the text line like I normally would be able to do because we need your name, your address. We're going to get these things shipped out to you. So call in. We've got somebody here that will be able to answer those calls. But 303-477-5600. We're going to be giving five of these books away. Normally, Mike, what do these sell for? $24.95. Okay, so $24.95 is what these will normally sell for, which, again, we're going to keep talking about that throughout because you guys are going to hear more, not only from Mike and the commercials that we run daily, but we'll be talking to Mike on an ongoing basis as well. But Mike, besides... You telling these stories to grandkids and so on, then wanting to put that into print format, there's another purpose behind the book, which is to really get families and kids especially to read, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 13 :
So talk about that part of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's very... very dear to me, which is children's literacy.
SPEAKER 13 :
Really quick, I'm going to stop for a moment, because those of you listening, you've heard me interview in the last month or so individuals, experts in the education end of things, talking about how our continual grade scores keep dropping and dropping and dropping to where high school seniors now that are graduating high school in a lot of cases cannot read. So, Mike, this is a big deal.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not only can they not read, but they don't seem to know much about subjects like history or geography.
SPEAKER 13 :
Great point.
SPEAKER 03 :
Or things that we knew as kids.
SPEAKER 13 :
States, where things are located.
SPEAKER 03 :
On and on we go, right? Exactly. And kids can't even write Kersauf anymore. Right. Write it or read it. No, no, not at all.
SPEAKER 13 :
So part of the book is, yeah, you want to tell stories. You want this to be an heirloom. People can pass it down. But your real goal is to get kids to read, right? Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the book, in doing that, I wanted to write a fantasy, a thought-provoking fantasy, but which was also educational. So all the subjects discussed in the book are historically and factually accurate, down to the smallest detail.
SPEAKER 13 :
So even though they're sort of fantasy-driven, you're also putting a lot of factual things, references, everything. I know because you told me everything's true. It can be proven in the book and so on. So the reality is you're mixing some fantasy along with some reality. Exactly. Am I saying that correctly? Exactly. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
In other words, I mean, people will not find things in the book that are not accurate. You'll find fantasy, different places, but all the things discussed. So I wanted to discuss all different types of subjects. History was a big one. Because once we talk about what the book's about, people will see why the historical part of it was so important.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, let me check just one second. Charlie, how many have we given away to this point? Okay. Okay, so we have three more to have gone. So we've got three more to give away. Those of you, yeah, and thank you, Charlie, for the reminder. Those of you that may be listening to this at 6 o'clock, sorry. They will be gone by 6 o'clock because there's nobody here to take your information. Now, what I will tell you, though, is even if you're listening at 6 o'clock and you want to get one of these books as a Christmas gift, which you definitely can do, Mike, what's the website they should go to to do that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Jimmyandandrew.com.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, that's simple, guys. Jimmy, and it's J-I-M-M-Y. So Jimmy and Andrew.
SPEAKER 03 :
A-N-D and then Andrew.
SPEAKER 13 :
There you go, .com. So if you guys are listening at 6, yes, thank you, Charlie, for the reminder. You cannot call in and get a free book. We've got three more of these we can give away right now. This is 310 in the afternoon. So those of you listening, 303-477-5600, and we'll get you a book.
SPEAKER 03 :
But anybody calling in, if you use the promo code KLZ, you get 10% off.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And what number do they need to call to do that if they want to call in? Same one here?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no. When you go to the website. I'm sorry. Did I say call in? No, no. When you go to the website and you get to the shop page, you type in the promo code, which is the call letters, KLZ, and you get an extra 10% on top of the free shipping and handling.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which I will be talking about more again as we go down. weeks ahead especially as we wind down here to christmas folks you'll hear me talking about this daily so again if you call in right now i think we'll have a couple more yet to give away somebody's calling in as we speak so we have two more left 303-477 sorry one more left 303-477-5600 give us a call we'll get a book in your hands and again appreciate all you calling by the way and those of you that have listened to me for any length of time Okay, we're down to the last one. So those of you that are calling in, you may not be able to get a book, so you can stop calling now. And I know there's a delay, but hang tight. And again, if you call in and we've given them away and you still want to get a book, go to the website. Again, Mike, what is it?
SPEAKER 03 :
www.jimmyandandrew.com.
SPEAKER 13 :
Perfect. So you guys can get a nice discount there, 10% off, use KLZ. What I was going to say, though, you guys all know me, and the fact that I am really big on, especially now with what's happening inside of the next administration, what they're talking about in regards to cost-cutting, the Department of Education, and so on. But the reality is, aside from all of that, so putting all of that aside, the reality is, Unless you're homeschooling your kids or you are sending your kids to some sort of a private school, the chances of them learning to read through the other system, through the public school system, is going to be slim. So the point, Mike, is if you really want your kids to learn how to read, you're going to have to take it upon yourself to do so. And this is a great tool in doing that is my point.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly, in that you want to give kids something that they really want to read, something that they're interested in.
SPEAKER 13 :
In other words, so they're just not forced to do it? They're actually encouraged and they want to know what's going on? Exactly. There you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the easiest way to do that is for parents to start reading to their kids.
SPEAKER 13 :
One thing, Mike, I didn't mention, and I've got it in front of me, but I didn't look. How many pages are in this book?
SPEAKER 1 :
250.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Again, for all of you listening, this isn't your typical, you know, cardboard front and back, you know, Dr. Seuss where it's about 15 pages long. That's not what this is. This is like, I think, Mike, the way I would describe it would be, taking something that's more in a story-slash-novel form, yet making it understandable for kids. I want you to talk about the illustrations that are in here as well, because that's very key to how the book actually works when you're reading it to the kids. Point being, this isn't the typical cardboard front-and-back 20-page kids' book.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it's a novel. There you go. It's for basically middle grade 9 to 99.
SPEAKER 13 :
I told you, Mike, about some of my kids. I had one that was reading at a very, very early age that at age five or six would have grabbed this and would have done just fine. So for those of you, if you've got younger kids, maybe you've homeschooled them or you've worked with them or they've got older siblings that have helped them learn how to read, This thing is illustrated to the point where, and by the way, you parents will enjoy reading this as well, but the point being, Mike, if you're on that grade level where you can understand what's going on historically and so on, anybody could read this. Yes. Is that a good way to say that? Yes. Talk about the illustrations.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Well, maybe I should tell a little bit about the book first. Go ahead. What the story is. Absolutely. Go ahead. It's about a boy. You mean Andrew. So it's about a boy by the name of Jimmy. who for as long as he can remember has wanted a dog. And finally, on his ninth birthday, his parents allow him to go to the Humane Society and adopt a dog. And it turns out that the dog he gets can speak with him telepathically. And he finds out that the dog is immortal, born in Egypt over 3,000 years ago, and has been roaming the earth ever since, trying to find others of his kind, find his own origins. And not until he meets Jimmy does he begin to discover clues to his elusive origins. Gotcha. So that's the basic book. So that's where the history side of things comes into play. And so once he's adopted, now the adventures begin. Got it. And this first book... American Stonehenge about their first big adventure is Jimmy's archaeologist parents take him and his new canine companion, Andrew, with them to a find in the forests of northern Washington, northwest, to where a find of the exact duplicate of Stonehenge in England. And it's shrouded in mystery that Jimmy and Andrew must unravel. Sure. Very cool. And what's interesting about this series itself and this book and the whole series is that you go back. The reader, it's taken back and forth between the current episode and other episodes in Andrew's long life since he's lived over 3,000 years. And it ties in. There's where the historical comes in. You know, where he's been out, it ties in now. Yeah. And in writing these series, it's almost to me become like these – somehow it's like another universe that they exist in. It's very much like our – there's nothing that you can find that this isn't the way – these are factual things. But it's in an area of, like I said – You've tied it all together. Tied it all together.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so the pictures, because it's illustrated as well for all of you listening. It's not just words. It's illustrated as well. But, Mike, you did the illustrations differently than a typical book.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. I mean, one of the things I wanted to do, you've got to understand, this becoming a book that parents can read to their kids is a big part of it too. And so the book itself, the physical book, we've spent a lot of time in designing so that that could happen. Okay. And the illustrations are a very big part of it. I wanted the book to have like a graphic novel quality.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which it does.
SPEAKER 03 :
And so we did illustrations. The book is big, first of all. It's 7 1⁄2 by 10 inches. Thank you for saying that, by the way. I never mentioned that, so thank you. Yeah, it's a big book. That's right. And the illustrations are a full page. Colored. Colored, full-colored, hand-painted illustrations of the major scene of every chapter. And one of the things that I wanted to do because I always hated the fact that the illustrations in books were at the beginning of a chapter. I didn't like that because, first of all… You may give something away, right? Yeah, if it's exciting and you give something in. Also, if you get to the scene and you have to flip back to look at it. Got it. So we put the illustrations across from the scene. So it's on the opposite side of the page. So as the reader is reading it, he can look and see, he or she can look and see the actual scene that's exactly depicted. Okay. Down to the smallest detail. Got it. And so the book is available in all the electronic copies, but we always recommend that you get the hard copy. That's because one of the things you can't do in electronic copy is see it that way. You're going up and down. You can't see it right across like that. So this way, the whole point is that the person's got it and they can look out there and see the scene or the kids can be looking at it while the parent or while the teacher or the homeschooler is reading the book. Okay. Makes total sense. Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Again, for those of you listening, The Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew, that is the title of the book. This is book one, American Stonehenge. And we talked about, Mike did about the story. And we don't want to give too much of that away because we want you to get the book. and read it. But you're going to hear me talking more about this. You'll hear some commercials running. This is, and I'll just tell you straight up, this is a great gift to buy for Christmas, whether it be for yourself to read to your own kids, whether you're a grandparent and you want to get it for your kids and grandkids, whether you want to get it for your kids. You decide how you want to do this, but this would be a fabulous family gift for a very nominal price.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Best way for me to say it.
SPEAKER 03 :
And they can go up on our website and see... A four-chapter free peer review. The first four chapters in print replica. So you'll see exactly what it looks, except you won't see it on the opposite side of the page. Right. But you'll see everything. And you'll see it in such a way that it just kind of pops out at you. And you think, wow, I'd like to see that in the book. There you go. Well, what we did is we had a special coding put on all the pages. that makes the illustrations and the copy just pop right out.
SPEAKER 13 :
Folks, this is a beautiful book. You guys know me. I wouldn't lie to you, wouldn't tell you. If I didn't think it was, I wouldn't say so. It is. Again, this is one of those books that you will cherish, you will keep around, and you will pass it down from child to child or generation to generation. And I mean that sincerely. It's that high quality. It's a great deal. You will not go wrong buying this book for your family or your grandkids or even, you know, Nieces, nephews, maybe somebody that you know would benefit from having it. My point is, it's a great gift. We're two weeks from Christmas. Mike, what's kind of, in closing here, what's kind of the latest people need to get their order and to make sure they get it by Christmas?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well... Pretty soon. Within a week, probably. Locally, it's going to get there faster than if it was somewhere else. Okay. So you figure about it. The post office says a week to 10 days for the way we're shipping it. Okay. But it'll be faster. Okay. Yeah, it'll be a little bit faster.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so those of you listening, again, jimmyandandrew.com. We'll have links up, by the way, all over our website, klzradio.com. Don't forget, you get 10% off right now. That's our promo code. Just type in KLZ when you go to order the book. Mike, it's a joy. I've enjoyed having you. Thank you for the book. And we gave, I already know, we gave all those books away in that amount of time. So thank you for doing that as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's wonderful. Terrific. And thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right. You just heard me interview Mike Goldstein, author of American Stonehenge. It's Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew. You just heard us talk about it a moment ago. These are the commercials you're going to be hearing moving forward. And as I said a few minutes ago, that's a fabulous gift to get for Christmas. And I cannot say that enough. And then, of course, once we get through the holidays, it'll just be a good thing to have around for. your own family, and those that you want to know how to read, you want to learn how to read, this is a great tool in that particular area. So again, American Stonehenge, the author is Mike Goldstein, and we appreciated him joining us a moment ago.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
Now back to John Rush. All right, we are back. Thank you all for listening, by the way. I appreciate it. And again, thanks to Mike for coming in and being with us. And as you guys probably could already figure out, he's somebody local. We don't have a ton of local authors that we end up interviewing on our program. I interview authors from literally all over the country, in some cases all over the world. It's unique to have somebody in our own backyard, but Mike is. Now, for those of you listening out of the area, by the way, Mike's got this set up where he can send books anywhere. So those of you listening that might have even family members and others that are out of our particular Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas area, he can send any book anywhere. So for those of you listening, don't worry about that whatsoever. All right. Scams. I want to talk about this today. We've got another guest joining us here at the bottom of the hour. Before I do this, Joe sent me this. And there's actually a link on the USPS.gov website. And that is actually USPIS. That's the inspection service. And reality is, don't be scammed this Christmas season by scammers selling stamps. And you'll get a lot of things, whether it be through social media or even coming into your inbox, might even get a text message on this. In other words, if you see that there's some great deal on stamps, normally $100 and they're half off. Well, you guys all know that's not how it works. Postage is postage is postage. And unless you're paying full price, they're likely stolen, counterfeit, or you're never going to receive them in the first place. So what's that old saying? If it's too good to be true, it probably is. That will be the case in regards to stamps. If you're not paying face value for the stamp, they're not correct. They're not a real stamp. And I'm guessing – I didn't read through all of this to find out what are the penalties – for using counterfeit stamps, but I don't want to go down that path. I don't think any of you do either. And these counterfeit stamps, there's pictures of them here on the website. They're pretty darn good. they're hard to tell the difference is my point so reality is just be wary if there's significant discounts know that they could be either a scam i mean it's a scam altogether but it could be a scam to gain your info could be a scam and that they're counterfeit or last but not least they could of course be stolen so bottom line buy your stamps at USPS.com or go to your local post office, however you want to do that. And by the way, there's all sorts of places that sell stamps as well. I believe King Soopers, Costco, Sam's, you can buy stamps there as well. But again, if it looks like it's some great deal, half off. It's most likely some sort of a scam to gain something, or they're going to send you product, but it's counterfeit, meaning it's no good anyways, and you just spent money that's, you know, it's good money after bad. You're not going to be able to do anything with them anyways if they're counterfeit. So bottom line, just realize that that scam is out there. And I talk about these on a pretty routine basis as we learn more and more of what's going on out there. So, yeah, do not buy counterfeit stamps. High-Five Plumbing is next. If you've got any kind of plumbing or electrical problem, don't forget they do both now. It's High-Five Plumbing, 877-WE-HIGH-FIVE.
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SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for tuning in today, by the way, and I appreciate you all listening and the books we gave away during the first segment today. I appreciate Mike coming in and joining us. Again, I cannot talk highly enough about the book that he has authored. There's more in the series coming out, so it's one of those things where you're going to want to get involved in that and then have each series so that as you start reading to your friends kids or grandkids or however you decide to do that it's a great tool to teach kids to learn it'll just be a lot of fun for you and your family as well so again the adventures of jimmy and andrew and mike if you're listening thanks again for being a part of what we do and and as you guys all know this is something near and dear to me just because of where we're at on the educational end of things that i talk about on a routine basis uh here on rush to reason the fact that we have got to get in gear when it comes to that end of things, because the reality is we are very behind as a country in regards to all of that, and we have got to figure out a way somehow, some way to get caught up, because we are definitely behind in that area. So Charlie's doing his best to get our next guest, which we may not be able to get a hold of, and as we head down the stretch into the holidays, things like that can happen. Not a problem. All right, this came up actually Saturday on Drive Radio. and I want to go ahead and talk about it here, and I was going to do this anyways, but I was reminded of it on Saturday, and you guys hear me talk a lot about what government should do, what's the proper role of government, and different things regarding, you know, towns and cities and so on, and I've got very distinct thoughts in a lot of areas when it comes to those things. Now, This one I've talked about in the past, and some of you all know exactly what I'm going to say when I get to this particular topic, but that's the town of Morrison, and they are disbanding their police department. Oh, we have Mark. Okay, never mind. You know what? I'll come back to that topic here in just one minute. Let's talk to Mark next. Mark Gober. Mark, welcome. How are you, sir? I'm well. Thank you for having me. No, I appreciate it very much. And you are author and end to the upside-down reset, the leftist vision for society under the Great Reset. And as we have a new president, actually the old president coming back, let's say it that way, Mark, what do you envision along those lines?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think many of the initiatives that we've heard about with regard to the Great Reset, which is the World Economic Forum's vision for society laid out in 2020, I do think the new administration's policies will likely stifle many of those great reset initiatives. However, I think it is important to keep in mind that these ideas have been put forward because they seem to be part of a long-term plan. And maybe for the next four years, we'll have a bit of a shield, but I think we need to remain vigilant.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I'm with you. And I've had people even ask me that, Mark, you know, what do I think? How do I think things are going to look? Granted, I don't have a crystal ball. I know you don't either. But I really look at this as... I guess the great pause. Like you, I feel like these things have been set in motion for a long time. The Marxist movement and the globalist end of things, Mark, have been trying to infiltrate our country for some 60-plus years now. Yeah, there may be a pause here by this administration, and depending upon what happens in 2028, it might even continue. But the reality is we have got to be vigilant in that because, believe me, the other side isn't going to stop.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's well put, and I think the Great Reset was an initiative – starting in 2020 and that was basically the new branding of something that's been going on for a long time and maybe the branding in the future will change but the ideology is very similar
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, intrinsically, and Mark, you know this as well as I, intrinsically, they don't like us. I mean, the reality is, and the way I explain it all the time, is it's good versus evil. And I know that a lot of folks might, you know, counter me on that because I'm not saying that, you know, one side of the part of the country, you know, one party is good versus the other side being evil. But the ideology and what those individuals think matters. I do believe markets good versus evil, and the reality is the other side is going to do everything they possibly can, whether they're relabeling it or not. The core of it is they hate what we stand for, they hate America, they hate what we were founded on, and they want to see a significant change in all of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
The term that I've used in my books is spiritual war. So I see it in a very similar light. And I also use the term in this book, an end to the upside down reset, anti-human. That is the mentality of this ideology, that human beings are parasitic and we should try to control them rather than to allow them to be prosperous.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right. No, Mark, I say that constantly. The whole climate movement is very much what you just said. The reality is we are the scourge of the Earth. We should be purged. And if we are, then Earth comes back to normal, according to them, I should say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I actually have a whole chapter on climate in the book, An End to the Upside-Down Reset. And you're reminding me of a quote from a CNN technical director. He was filmed undercover by Project Veritas in 2021 saying, And he was talking about how at the time COVID was all the talk, that COVID would die down and fear sells. And the next thing that had longevity, that was going to be climate. And it turned out he was right. And I do think it's part of this anti-human mentality.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And Mark, you and I are, as you can tell, very much. on the same wavelength with all of this. I also, as you heard me say a moment ago, good versus evil. I believe very much that it is, in fact, a spiritual battle that's going on. And I know a lot of folks would laugh at me for saying this, but literally it is a spiritual battle, not only for the soul of America, but for the souls of the individuals inside of America, Mark.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. I talk about this in the book. You've all know Harari, who's been an advisor to the World Economic Forum. He has said things like the idea that there is a soul or spirit that's over, paraphrasing. And this is the mindset, metaphysically, of the Great Reset. It's not about a spiritual revolution to understanding the greater purpose of our existence, but rather it's about getting rid of that and trying to control humanity.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep. And again, I go back to Mark. This is the core of the Marxist movement. The reality is they replace God with government. Government becomes, you know, the ultimate end-all to be-all, end-all, and whatever they say goes, and you don't need God any longer because government will take the place of. I mean, this is the core of that movement. That's why I say it's good versus evil, because any time you take God out of the equation, you're evil.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and it's offloading personal responsibility to others and just trusting an expert because that person has a degree, and that does inherently take a greater intelligence out of the picture spiritually.
SPEAKER 13 :
So your whole thought on the book initially, I usually start with this with authors and why the book, but I kind of already know why because of everything we're talking about. But on the same token, what made you finally sit down and write this so that we can get this awareness out to people?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I was very much politically agnostic until 2020. I didn't know much about politics at all. And then given everything that happened, both with COVID and the election, there was no choice because having no opinion was basically an opinion. So I started looking very closely at what was happening. And I was pretty appalled by what I was seeing in terms of the authoritarian mindset from the left. And I have a very mainstream background. I went to Princeton undergrad. I worked in investment banking in New York. I spent a decade working in Silicon Valley. So many people that I respected and still respect intellectually were not seeing through the deception. And I just wanted to understand what was going on. So in this book, An End to the Upside-Down Reset, there are two segments that try to help other people see through what I was naive to until recently. Number one, I psychoanalyzed leftism as an ideology. And then the second part of the book is actually deconstructing this Great Reset agenda, because the language that's used in Klaus Schwab's book called COVID-19, The Great Reset, very flowery language. It sounds like the world's going to be a better place. But I broke it down into six segments in terms of societal change that they want to see cultural, political, economic, environmental, technological and metaphysical. And I wanted to make it easy for other people to understand.
SPEAKER 13 :
When you decided that, hey, things aren't quite right, this doesn't make any sense, I need to do something about this. I mean, I guess main question mark is, was there one single thing that happened that really woke you up to what was going on, or was it a combination of?
SPEAKER 07 :
It was a combination and it was a continuation of patterns of the mainstream press putting out an idea and then looking at primary sources myself and seeing they weren't telling the full story or in some cases completely deceiving people. And it was happening over and over again.
SPEAKER 13 :
And just so you know, throughout that, because I've been on air for a decade plus and literally we're talking about all of covid from. Literally the, you know, two weeks to slow the spread on. I mean, you know, I can remember distinctly those times. And I even had some very great doctors and folks that were on with me that, you know, we started with very early that really started to set the record straight. They were some of those, you know, antis in the very beginning. And of course, we were all called loons. And, you know, we didn't, you know, our own governor called us selfish bastards. You know, we don't know what we're doing and we don't want, you know, we don't want the good of the whole and on and on we go. And the reality, Mark, is all of us, myself included. We were right. They were wrong.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's the irony of it, and we haven't seen too many apologies.
SPEAKER 13 :
I haven't gotten one. Really quick, Mark, I had people back then, even listeners, I mean, I would get into debates not only on air but off air, social media and so on. I literally had people saying things like, you know, you're the reason why we are where we are, and we'd be better off without you. In other words, Mark, I should just die, and that should be the end of it. In other words, some folks even said, you should get COVID and die. Those are the kind of things I had to listen to back then.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm somehow not surprised by that. It speaks to, I don't know what to call it other than mind control or brainwashing that seems to remove all rationality.
SPEAKER 13 :
I call it a mental illness. Maybe that's me being a little bit too generous, but to your point, these are individuals that really have allowed others to control them. They're thinking about things in a non-real way, and they've been duped.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. But I do think there is an awakening happening. I mean, where we are today versus four years ago, the number of people who are able to ask questions about things. So I'm optimistic in that sense.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, you saw that in this last election. I mean, not only did Donald Trump win on the electoral side, he won the popular vote. A lot of people have literally woken up to hang on. You know, this whole wokeness end of things. And again, Mark, maybe they're not. down to the same minutia that you and I are, although it's through books like yours that they could learn some of that minutia and even get more educated than they are right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but I do think it's just this pattern that people are having to wake up to, that they were told things that just aren't true, and their mind has to just go with rationality at a certain point. I think there's a long way to go, but I'm definitely encouraged.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know what? Everything you just said, I cannot argue. Now, this is where not only does your book come into play, what we do here on a regular basis as well, but to your point, really, as we started opening up the conversation, we can't stop. I mean, this might be a pause, but unless we keep our foot on the gas pedal, it will die.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. It's about the awareness of the individuals to me. It has to be grassroots because people have to, the authorities are going to put out whatever they put out and it's up to us to discern that. And through free information and allowing people to absorb things on their own, I think that's the ultimate solution.
SPEAKER 13 :
Where do folks buy the book, Mark?
SPEAKER 07 :
It's available on Amazon and it's in paperback, Kindle and audible format and then to the upside down reset.
SPEAKER 13 :
Awesome. Mark, as you can tell, you're in great company. Anytime you want to come back, you let me know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you so much. Thank you for all your work as well.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 13 :
And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 06 :
John, just a little more background on counterfeit stamps. Have you ever watched these shows, a contraband seized at the border to catch a smuggler?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love that show, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And one of the things they show is that there's a booming business in, it's coming from China, counterfeit stamps, you know, in the role of a hundred. Now, here's a quick, I know you're not going to know, but your best guess. So Let's take an 18-inch by 18-inch by 12-inch deep box, which is about the size of two shoe boxes side by side, a package you could put under one arm. If you put that full of rolls of 100 first-class stamps, what do you think the value of that box that you have under your arm is?
SPEAKER 1 :
$20,000, $25,000?
SPEAKER 13 :
$85,000. Wow, $85,000. Huge.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because, again, a roll of stamps, they're one inch wide. And the roll is an inch and a half in diameter. So if you have an 18 by 18 inch box, you can have 12, you can have 144 per row. And since they're only an inch deep.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, true, true.
SPEAKER 06 :
You could have, you'd have eight.
SPEAKER 13 :
And they're lightweight. That's way different than even cash.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And the drug dogs can't spill. Yeah, because it's just paper. It's just paper. Interesting. So they've been doing this. So, again, an 18 by 18 by 12-inch deep box has $85,000 worth of counterfeit stamps. Amazing.
SPEAKER 13 :
And really quick, Joe, how accurate are they? I'm guessing pretty accurate.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, very, very accurate. I mean, you know, it doesn't take much to make.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, it's not like there's a hologram or anything special when it comes to a stamp.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nope. And they're showing to catch a smuggler. I mean, they're coming in. And what's happening— By the way, one of the things you missed, when they're really cheap, they're not going to send you any product.
SPEAKER 13 :
They just want your credit card. That's right. All they're doing is stealing your info. That's all they're doing.
SPEAKER 06 :
They just want your credit card. But when they're selling you something for $39 or whatever, you know. Cap price, whatever. But these guys are buying these $85,000 worth of stamps for, you know, $500.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right, right. They're making a mother load on that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Now, they're not selling them for $85,000. Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 13 :
They're probably selling them for half that, but still, that's a pretty good take, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you pay $500 for a box of, you know, for $85,000 worth of fake stamps, and you sell them for $40,000, and you hit a home run.
SPEAKER 13 :
Shoot, Joe, if you were getting $10,000, you'd be a home run.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, you got nothing in it, basically. My Facebook page, every day these things are popping up, every single day.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which, you know, side note, you would think that that's something, you know, they could monitor everything else through COVID that you and I might post, but they can't monitor that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And by the way, still are in a lot of ways. Well, you know, I report them as scams and the Facebook does take them down, but they have to wait for somebody to report them. And by the way, the Amazon pallet scam is back. Oh, jeez.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, buy your pallet of product that doesn't exist.
SPEAKER 06 :
Of return product, right. Buy your pallet of return product. And they show this Photoshop picture. They show like 20 pallets. You know, each one five feet high, stacked with product for $79 a pallet.
SPEAKER 13 :
The AI stuff, just as a side note, too, for all of you listening, I was talking about this over the weekend. Reality, Joe, as you know, the AI stuff just continues to get better and better and better to the point where I'm not sure how you're going to know the difference down the road.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And one of these pictures, by the way, they show these pallets in front of an Amazon warehouse. And all they've done, they've taken a picture of an Amazon warehouse with the big Amazon logo. sign up above the building, and then they Photoshop these pallets. And by the way, it's the same three pallets with the same Photoshopped $79 yellow sticker sign. So it makes you believe that these pallets are parked out in front of an Amazon warehouse, and they're all returned merchandise. Oh, and then they have, each one, they have 20 to 30 Rave reviews. Got mine yesterday. It had all this. And they're fake. They're fake profiles. And, in fact, if you go from one to the next, it's the same fake reviews, even though the pop-up ad is different. It's the same fake reviews, and you go to click on these profiles of these people. They're all fake profiles.
SPEAKER 13 :
What's that old saying, Joe, if it sounds too good to be true?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, you're not going to get a pallet. Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, you know, there's no free lunch, Joe. I mean, anybody out there that thinks that, you know, either one of two things. Even if you get product delivered, it isn't going to be anywhere as close to what they described you're getting. So at the end of the day, no matter what, you're going to get taken advantage of. Best bet, just steer away from them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. I got one more thing from your Saturday show. I couldn't call in, but you're talking about appraisals and stuff. You want a little more background on insuring your guns? Yeah, go ahead. So I did some research, and actually I did it myself. I forgot how much I paid. But the cost to insure guns is about $0.30 per $100. So if you have $10,000 worth of guns and you want to insure them, it's going to be roughly $300 a year to insure $10,000 worth of firearms. But here's the big thing you want to be careful. People forget about the optics. You can have a $600 rifle with a $350 scope on top or on pistols now. the big thing are these red dot optics on top. And red dots are $300 a piece. So if you are going to insure your guns, make sure you include the value of the optic. Because if you just say, well, here's my list of guns I want to insure, and you forget that you have a Leopold 4x10 scope on your rifle, they're going to pay you for the rifle, but they're not going to pay you for the telescopic sight. So you need to specify... You know, boom, boom, .30-06 rifle with a 4x10 Leopold scope and then put that stated value in there. Otherwise, you're not going to get it. Great point. It's really inexpensive. I mean, $300 for $10,000 worth of coverage.
SPEAKER 13 :
Pretty good deal.
SPEAKER 06 :
Pretty good deal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, not a bad idea at all. Well, really quick, Joe, before I let you go, one last thing. I haven't had a lot of time to talk about it, but I'll get to it maybe a little bit later, and that's, of course, the whole shooting of the UnitedHealthcare CEO and even some now of what the news is saying. And I don't know if you've been following along with any of that, but there are now some articles coming out, and I think some of these are, frankly – either wrong or they're trying to mislead people into thinking this guy printed his own gun. In other words, he's got some sort of a ghost gun. And that's not what I've seen at all as far as descriptions of the weapon and even what I've seen in some of the pictures.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, no, it's certainly not a plastic gun. But there's another type of ghost gun where you can buy the parts. Right. And then assemble the parts.
SPEAKER 13 :
But to my knowledge, Joe, unless I'm mistaken, have they found the gun at this point?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they found the gun. They found the gun.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, was that just today that they finally found that, or what? Because I hadn't read that earlier.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they found the gun. I was just watching the local New York City news here.
SPEAKER 13 :
And is it, in fact, a ghost gun, or...?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's yet to be confirmed.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
But it is a regular semi-automatic pistol. They found him with his fake New Jersey's driver's license. He's a young guy. He's a University of Pennsylvania graduate. Saw that. Quite well off, by the way. Saw that, too. Lived in Hawaii. And he's just angry at corporations. And if you want to see a bunch of sick people, there's a Facebook site called Being Liberal. If you go on there, there's 200 comments celebrating this guy. They're setting up a defense fund form. They're saying, oh, it was self-defense. He was defending the lives of other people. This guy's a hero. We need more just like him. John, it's sick, absolutely sick.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow, unbelievable, Joe. Yeah, and I've even heard, and for those of you that are conservatives, please be very, very careful in what you say and how you say things along these lines, Joe. I've even seen some conservatives say some things along the lines of, well, you know, these evil corporations, they make all this money and they deny these claims and they do this and they do that. And while that may be true, Joe, now is not the time or the place to talk about that after somebody's been murdered.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it isn't. And then to celebrate this guy— That's morbid. Absolutely morbid. I mean, it's sad. Not only sad, but it's scary to think there are so many people out there like this guy because apparently he didn't have any relatives. He didn't lose his mother to— Right. No, this guy's just mad.
SPEAKER 13 :
This guy's a hardcore lefty that's mad at the world.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, he had a three-page manifesto that ranting and raving about evil corporations in general.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just a hardcore, far nutjob left-wing liberal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Meaning you won't hear much more about this after this show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you won't. And by the way, some of the sickest—no, no, he couldn't have done it. He was with me. He was with me on the day of the shooting, you know. People, yeah, no, I was there, too. He was with us. You know, they're all saying I'm his alibi. I mean, that's how sick these people are. Unbelievable, Joe. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 13 :
Joe, thanks, man, for the update. I always appreciate it very much. Have a great rest of your day. American National Insurance is next. Paul Luehmerger, my good friend. Broker as well. He'll help you with whatever insurance needs that you have. 303-662-0789.
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SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, again, really quick as a reminder to folks out there listening where you may not enjoy the insurance sides of things, which none of us do. that never gives anybody, anybody, an excuse to kill a CEO over disagreeing with how insurance companies work. If you don't like how they work, we lobby, we change politicians, we vote, we do all sorts of different things to counter that, but taking someone's life is never the answer. And as conservatives, we should be very, very, very careful in what we're actually commenting on, agreeing with, liking, or whatever when it comes to those types of comments. I'll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 11 :
All right, welcome back. Out number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Time for our Monday Mortgage Minute. Kurt Rogers from Affordable Interest Mortgage. Kurt, welcome, sir. How are you? I'm doing just fine. John, how are you? I'm good. It's a little different weather outside today than we had yesterday, but still good. So as we head down this stretch into Christmas, I was kind of previewing this before you came on, really trying to let people know that, A, we were going to talk to you, and B, I was going to ask you, As we head into Christmas and people will be looking at all sorts of different things regarding gifts and presents and their finances and so on, how important is it for folks that may be looking to do something mortgage-wise in the next six months after the holidays? How important is it for them to really watch what they do credit card-wise?
SPEAKER 12 :
Right now, you and I have kind of had this conversation on the side, but right now people can actually, by going out at Christmas time, they'll open up a lot of credit cards to be able to take care of Christmas.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
If you don't do that correctly, that can be very costly in five to six months down the road because it can affect your credit score. Having too many credit cards with too high of balances will drive your score down.
SPEAKER 11 :
So in other words, don't be tempted by that freebie deal that, hey, if you get a credit card today, you get X amount off. Just sign here.
SPEAKER 12 :
Don't do that. Now, use the cards you have. Call the credit card company. Ask them to raise the limit. But don't go out and get a new one just to save maybe 10% or 20% because it's going to affect your score and cost you more.
SPEAKER 11 :
And for those of you listening, that's especially true. I mean, I think it's true across the board, Kurt, but especially if you're looking at a move or you're upsizing, downsizing. In other words, if you're looking at doing something different mortgage-wise, again, in the next six months, I would not do any of that.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I agree with that. But also remember, whatever you're going to put on your credit cards, that's going to increase your payments, your monthly payments. True. So if you're thinking about buying a house... and you're increasing those payments, you've got to start thinking about what's my debt-to-income ratio. Will I still qualify if I want to buy a house or refinance?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, my thought would be if you're really in that world, Kurt, and that's something you're thinking of doing in the next six months, and I know sometimes it's hard to not do, but I would forego or make Christmas very light and let everybody in your family know what your plan is over the next six months, and that's just part of what we have to do for Christmas.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Yeah, because if you're looking at, like you said, if you want to refinance or purchase in six months and you don't make it because of something you did here that you could have corrected, if you want to know what those numbers are, what your debt-to-income ratio needs to be, and how to calculate it, it's very simple. They can just call me, and I can just tell them how to do it for themselves so they have an idea of what they're putting themselves into.
SPEAKER 11 :
Great. You take over KLZ tomorrow, noon to one, for Haystack Help Radio. What are you doing tomorrow, Kurt?
SPEAKER 12 :
We're going to be answering questions just like this. We've had quite a few of the listeners call in and say, well, what happens if I do this? How can I do that? Different things. So we're going to be talking about those tomorrow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Perfect. Kurt, as always, I appreciate you, sir. Thanks, John. You bet. Have a great night. Kurt Rogers, Affordable Interest Mortgage, 720-895-0500. Do you have more month than money?
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 11 :
We are back. As I said last hour, David Strzeski joining us now, Sound Planning Group. David, how are you, sir? Welcome. Hey, doing fantastic, John. How about yourself? Good. Merry Christmas to you. I don't know what I'll talk to you before then, so I hope you have a great Christmas. Talk to us about the latest jobs report, which might not look as rosy as the numbers actually say.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, you know, these jobs numbers come out, and, of course, we get this headline figure. And so everyone gets excited. It makes all the news reports. And it said we had 227,000 positive jobs in the month of October. Sounds amazing. However, if you look at the household survey, as in you call people's houses and you say, hey, do you have a job, yes or no? We lost 355,000 jobs last month.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so how can there be so much discrepancy between the two?
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so if you're just looking at the ADP jobs report, you could have two part-time jobs and be counted twice on that report, as I just got hired twice. But you really only have the equivalent of one full-time job, and those aren't even good jobs. So full-time jobs, part-time jobs are all counted the same in that government statistic. When you get down to the actual what is happening in the private sector, though, This is where it's different. And if you look at private sectors, they've been doing big layoffs here for the last nine months straight. And so last year, the number we had was 1.2 million were looking for work. Now we're looking at 1.7 million unemployed. So that's 500,000 more Americans that are still looking for work. And by the way, there's plenty that have stopped looking.
SPEAKER 11 :
But the Fed says everything's great, David.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they also say that they're federal and a place of reserve. Oh, yeah. Good point.
SPEAKER 1 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you know, and I wanted to bring this up with you specifically because, A, you watch these numbers and, you know, I do as well. And I also know, despite what a lot of. people think. Most people think that unemployment is done through reporting of employers and ADP and paychecks and companies like that, and nothing could be farther from the truth. They do exactly what you said a moment ago. They literally go out and poll x amount of americans and it's a pretty big job it's still in my opinion david pretty antiquated but that's how they actually do it they do not go off of those numbers now some of the hiring numbers they will take what adp and some of the others say but keep in mind as you know david adp doesn't service every single business out there correct correct
SPEAKER 03 :
And here's the interesting thing, John. We're having fewer people actually filling out these surveys or completing them. And so record low numbers actually in participation right now. So it's not even like a robust thing that we should be really paying attention to. This is very anemic, actually. So much so that if you'll remember, in March every year, they give you the official number of how many jobs were there and not after the seasonally adjusted stuff is out of there. But we only get it once a year. Jobs were revised down by 818,000 for the 12 months prior.
SPEAKER 1 :
818,000.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tell me another job that you can have that you miss your official numbers so significantly. I mean, we're looking at almost like more than a third.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you still keep your job. You're still credible. You're still whatever. Absolutely. I just don't see this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and here's a question for you, and this has been kind of in the back of my mind, and I don't know, I'm not privy to this information, but it would seem like, David, that they want some of these numbers now. to look better than what they are, because that's a little bit of a boost for the Democrats and Joe Biden himself. Yet after Trump gets inaugurated, my anticipation is you'll see the real numbers and what those things actually look like once Trump enters office, because then it'll all be blamed on him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, there's no question, and this is not even an opinion. The NBER, which is the organization that officially says that there's recessions or not, are very, very liberal. In fact, I believe 100% of them were appointed by Obama. And so, yeah, they've given us some very interesting government numbers here where we see that actually government hiring has far exceeded private sector hiring in these numbers. Unreal. You know, they get revised down so significantly and we make, you know, not a big deal of it. So Wall Street's complicit for not making a big enough deal of it. And just going along as the Pied Piper. You know, no offense, David.
SPEAKER 11 :
A lot of those are in the same camp, you know, politically speaking. And I just know because a lot of a lot of traders, a lot of folks on Wall Street are very liberal.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Which, by the way, side note, David, makes no sense to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think there's a lot of them that are just, they vote based upon a dollar and not necessarily ideals and some of the same reasons why you or I might do it as we're raising kids or families and we're part of communities in different ways. Good point. Wall Street serves Wall Street. D.C. serves D.C. Both sides of the aisle have their challenges, no question. I think that we, the people, are the ones that really actually have the voice, though. And what's awesome is that we're starting to get it back. And I feel like I have more of a voice right now. Agreed. You know, this this this department of let's cut some.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you know, and I'm glad you're going. I was going to go there anyways. You beat me to it. Doge Department of Government Efficiency. OK, let's talk for a moment. You mentioned a moment ago about the fact that government right now is hiring more than the private sector. And it is the data shows that. So we get Doge going and you get Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy that basically say, hey, guys, guess what? We're not going to spend some of the money in some of these areas we once were. In fact, some of you that have jobs now probably ought to be looking for a different job because you may not have this job any further. If, in fact, they get some of these things done, which, by the way, I believe they will, what effect will that have economically on us? Or will it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know, good question. I think that there will be a, you know, I'll say this. Are... ecosystem is very unhealthy right now. Correct. So we need to start with that as a premise.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
The second thing is to say, how do you fix it? Well, if your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep is going to be your downfall. We've got so many people, 14,400 turning 65 and literally, in the year 2024. The biggest group of baby boomers turning 65 is in the year 2024. Now, we have all these boomers going into Social Security and Medicare. What's going to happen with our spending? These organizations that we've been paying into for all these years, well, guess what? We're paying the Pied Piper now, and we're living longer than ever before. And so we have some significant challenges. What will be the issue, though, when we start cutting? Well, there'll be people that will certainly... I believe that they are disadvantaged and disenfranchised, and I'm sure the lawsuits will come and there'll be a lot of crazy stuff. I hope, though, that we can, as a nation, have a real conversation about some things and say, you know what, does it make sense the way that we're running this? Would anyone run their household like this? Because if this isn't the way that we'd run our household, why would we, the people, run our government like this? That's the biggest thing that tells me that it's not actually our government. Right, right. I agree. And by the way, I agree with what you just said a moment ago.
SPEAKER 11 :
I do think there's going to have to be some really staunch, hard conversations along those lines. My fear is, and it's a wholesome fear, David, is that... What you just said, while that makes sense to you and I, you know, about families and spending and so on, the typical government worker, I'm not sure, comprehends what you and I just said along those lines because I don't think they look at life the same way you and I do. There are some that do, and I've got some that listen to this program that very much are in that same camp and agree with what you and I are saying. I'm fearful that there's far too many that don't that, to your point earlier, will balk at any type of cuts and the lawsuits will come flying.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and, you know, if you really want to incite riots and everything, why don't we tell everybody that people are evil and, you know, and all this other stuff like like they've alienated President Trump, you know, for all these years. And then there's people shooting at him, you know, three times. That's not a big deal. Holy smokes. We are divided right now. This is the opportunity where we can heal. And we can, as a nation, you know what, when cuts come, if I was the person getting some cuts taken away from me, some of them taken away from me that I really needed, or even that it was excessive and expensive, but man, I was really benefiting from it, man, I would be hard. I don't think that there's an easy way to do that. Now, there is some ways to just cut some jobs for people that aren't willing to show up. Well, that's easy, okay? But there are some real hard conversations we've got to have. And
SPEAKER 11 :
And really quick, and I've mentioned this before on the program, and see if I'm correct in my thinking, but first thing I would do is, number one, if you've got folks that are getting close to retirement in the governmental systems, well, just whatever you need to do to encourage that, you're still going to save money on down the road when it comes to payroll, that retirement they're going to get no matter what. So my number one thought is take some of those elderly government workers, let's encourage them to move on, and that becomes really easy at that point. The next thing i would look at is if you've worked in government for five years or less uh no offense you don't have a lot going for you anyways you don't have a lot of stake in the game we're going to cut you as well and then lastly david i think the way you get to thin the herd is you move the agencies in a lot of cases themselves and through that move you'll have some attrition no matter what because some of those people just won't move if you take an agency by the way that's in D.C. and you move it to Colorado, for example, some of those folks are just going to say, yeah, no pound sand. I'm staying where I'm at. And I think you'd have pretty good grounds to just say, well, you know, we offered you the job. We said that we would even pay some of your moving expenses to go. You're the one that decided to stay. You no longer have a job.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Yeah, you know, I don't know. There's going to be a big national conversation for sure. And it'll be great to find some efficiency. I'm very much a ready aim fire. I feel like a lot of the, you know, that which, you know, came down these last four years, you know, by executive order. even the state of Washington, where I'm at, by executive order, is just absolutely insane.
SPEAKER 11 :
Just kill some of that stuff right off the bat. To me, that's easy stuff. That's a low-hanging fruit. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. But, you know, we've got to get our nation back to work. So it's supply-side economics that are going to do the things that are going to get us back – and hustling and doing the things that we're really good at. You know, it's the entrepreneur spirit. I think inflation's here, though, and so we got some real hard stuff that's going on. I like what you were just talking about with the guest earlier about people's budgets and not overspending and, you know, adding a little extra credit line instead of getting a different credit card. That was a great tip. People need to understand if their outgo exceeds their income, their upkeep will be their downfall. Same problem as Uncle Sam's. You are responsible for yourself. People have to understand that there's no nation that's going to come and rescue us if we fall apart, okay? Now, here's the interesting thing about credit cards, and this is actually really scary. Unsecured lines of credit, actually. And if people just say that they're done with it, well, those are – Those are gone if you file bankruptcy. So I think that we're probably going to see a lot of carnage coming, although a lot of good things. But there's a lot of carnage coming as different industries and people and sectors start to fall apart as our economy changes here, ultimately for the best. But when you go from one thing to the next, we just have to understand they ebb and they flow.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. No, you are 100% correct. And my advice to folks is, number one, I guess maybe because I've been one of those entrepreneurs the majority of my – well, all my adult life, actually, David. I mean, I've been self-employed since 1986, so I wasn't very old when I started. And the reality is when you're self-employed, there's always – and I know folks – I've read even books that say, you know, don't have a plan B because you don't have a plan B. You've got to make plan A work. Well, while I agree with that premise, I think it's very foolish to not have some alternative that, hey, if all of this goes south, I can still go do X. No, that's not my main plan, and I'm not going to work towards that. But I do have a relief valve, if you would, that's out there. And by the way, David, most people don't think that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and most people need the education right now. So think about this. We need the right education because there are certain industries that are just not going to work. AI is going to take certain things out very easily, especially if you jack up minimum wage to $15 an hour. That's right. So you're going to see big shifts and changes. So become employable. Become a key inside of the organizations that you're working at. Yep. Be that entrepreneur and create the next stuff because there's so many opportunities and things out there for people to be doing and to be taking advantage of. But this is definitely not for the faint of heart. And as we're changing, I just hope that real conversations can happen. People can actually look one another in the eyes and remember that we are the United States after all, not the divided states. And so let's bring our united ideas together, even though they might sound different and and I guarantee you we're going to find some harmony. We've been doing it for 250 years. We can continue to do it. We just need the right leadership.
SPEAKER 11 :
Fully agree with you, David, as always. Appreciate you very much. How do folks find you and follow you?
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Hey, myspg.com is our website. We've got a number of things that are going on here. I've got some classes that are going to be coming out in the first month of the year online, so people that are more interested in getting information on Medicare and Social Security and retirement planning. I'll call this the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act 2.0. I'm just in the process of finishing up this class. Trump is going to reignite that, and it is literally the single greatest opportunity in our lifetimes to reduce or eliminate taxes on our retirement dollars.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. You guys hear me talk about them periodically, and that's our Colorado Public Employees Retirement Fund. That's what PARA stands for. And I've talked about this over the course of literally the past, what have I been on air now, Charlie, 11 years or so now, and I've talked about it from almost day one because it's been a problem that entire time. And when I say problem, I mean underfunded. Now, it doesn't mean that those that are on payroll right now are not going to get their checks and get paid, but as time goes by, the liability part of the fund continues to grow, and it's not being offset well enough. Right now, and by the way, the reason this is so important is because it's a public-funded retirement account, and when I mean publicly-funded, Yes, the teachers and those that are participating in it, they fund it to an extent, but it's guaranteed by you, the taxpayer. So if something happens and it becomes insolvent, we're on the hook. We, as in taxpayers, are on the hook. Right now... The fund is basically short. It's got unfunded debts to its members of $27.5 billion. Not million, billion.
SPEAKER 1 :
$27.5.
SPEAKER 11 :
And what's happened here of late, and the reason why I brought this up is there's some articles out there. Colorado Sun actually picked this one up, whereby there was a board member, a trustee, by the name of Scott Smith, who raised some awareness about to some of these things and even encouraged teachers and administrators inside of the Paris system to bring whatever concerns they've got to board meetings, which you would think would be the appropriate thing to do. Well, he got censured and basically reprimanded for doing that. In other words, this is a board that doesn't want to be transparent. This is a board that doesn't care what its members actually think. This is a board that feels it's above the law. That no matter what they do, it's good enough and it doesn't make any difference what anybody else thinks and don't question me about it. And I didn't realize that this had become such a big deal, but there's even been some board meetings to where Scott Smith had invited some folks to come, and they spent way longer, I guess, airing their concerns to the point that the board meeting, wow, went too long. Ask me if I care on that one, by the way. This is your job, para-members. I don't care that your meeting went long. I don't care that 50 people showed up to express their concerns. Good for them. It's their money that you're supposed to be watching over. Key word here, you're a board trustee, meaning you are accountable and responsible for the money those people have put in. Do your dang job. And yet you're mad at a person like Scott for inviting people to come in and air their grievances. That's what they're supposed to do, and it's what you should be doing regularly. You guys are a bunch of clowns. Literally, clowns. You are not above the law. And I, as a taxpayer, am backing up your fund. I, as much as the people that are there, that are contributing, have a right to express grievances. I'm a taxpayer. I fund what you won't, what you fail to do. And there's been all sorts of conversation throughout the past decade or more about how they're looking at their actuaries as far as how much money they'll actually be making in the future interest-wise to replace the money in the fund. And where I'm going with that is they were using numbers that were 8%, 10%, 12% returns that they have not met. A lot of years, they don't come close to meeting what their expectations were. Therefore, not making as much money on the fund as they should. Therefore, it gets short. That's where this $27.5 billion figure comes from. In my opinion, that whole board needs replaced. The trustees need replaced. They're a bunch of jokers. If you're one of them, by the way, shame on you. Shame on you. You should be doing a better job with the money that's been entrusted to you. And I don't care what your business of that meeting is. If there are people there that want to speak to you about what's going on, you should be listening. Shame on you. I don't care what your business is. You can do that business someplace else for that matter. Get your ducks in a row prior to the meeting. By the way, as you guys all probably know by now, I have sat through many a board meeting, through various organizations, and I will tell you that 90% of what goes on in a board meeting is wasted time. Could have been done outside of the meeting very easily and just bring a synopsis to the meeting and everybody there doesn't have to argue over something stupid. I've been in church board meetings where you argued about the paint color of a wall, and I'm not exaggerating. No one cares at the end of the day. Sorry, there's better things to talk about. I guarantee you there are some of these things that go on in these meetings that if I were there listening and or running the meeting, they would not take near as much time as they do. And yes, I've ran many a meeting in my day, as you probably already know. Not bragging, but I know how to run a meeting, and they shouldn't take that long. But I will say this when it comes to public comment. If you want to limit public comment to a certain amount of minutes per person, I get that. You need to give everybody ample time to be able to speak. And if you want to limit that to five minutes a person, okay, fine. I'm okay with that. But to just shut them down to where they're not allowed to speak at all and or get mad at a particular board member because they instituted that, that's a bunch of garbage. Shame on you. These are unelected governmental officials. And check me on that, Charlie. I don't believe para folks are elected. Double check me to make sure. But I'm pretty sure they're appointed. But double check me on that. I've never voted for a paraperson. Let's just say that. Now, internally, maybe in their own system, they get voted for. But by the way, given the fact this is a public fund that I, as a taxpayer, am backing up, these should be voted positions. Elected positions, I mean. We should vote for these people. I'm guessing they're appointed. Appointed. That's what I thought. Charlie just said appointed by the governor, confirmed by the Senate. 16 people. Which, frankly, is eight too many. You don't need a board of 16 people. You can't make decisions. There's too many people. That's twice as many as there should be. And I don't know how many come from the public versus come from the private and so on. Yeah. And what are they paid? I don't know. In fact, Charlie, thank you for asking. One of the things that that this Scott individual, Scott Smith, complained about was there's a lack of transparency on the para website as to what goes on, including some of the things even Charlie and I are talking about. You should be able to go to the para website and find everything I just said. What's the budget? By the way, a synopsis of the budget. Where are they at with their liabilities and or the fund itself? How is it functioning? How is it performing? And so on. And by the way, I don't want the details. I want a synopsis. An accurate synopsis of what's going on. There should be minutes to each meeting, which the way I understood in this particular article, those don't exist. Those should be public. From what I understand, none of that is on the website and should be. This is one of those I call rogue boards that runs amok and really isn't accountable. And the reason why it upsets people like myself is because if this thing runs amok, we're on the hook for it. By law, by law in Colorado, we as taxpayers have to fund this. If it comes up short... All of you that are listening to pay Colorado taxes, you're on the hook for this. And I don't think most people really understand what I'm talking about because it's not talked about in the news and in public near enough. It's just something that's assumed that, oh, if I put in 30% of my paycheck as a government worker, then I'm going to get that back someday. I've got a guaranteed contribution with a defined benefit, and that's how I'm going to make this work. Actually, it's not even a defined contribution. It's a defined benefit, which that needs changed. I think some of the new people coming in, it's a defined contribution. But in the past, it's been a defined benefit. And there are some folks out there right now that are pulling from Para way more than they probably should have been because in the past, I don't know if it's still the way it is today. I believe it is, though. In the past, let's say you were a teacher and you made, I don't know, you've been there long enough and maybe you're even an administrator and you're making $100,000 a year. Use round numbers. I believe Para paid you 80% of that figure when you retired. Now, the way that worked, though, is it was based upon the last two years you worked earnings. So let's say you put in 30 years. And let's say you made, you know, towards the end there, you were starting to make upwards of $100,000. Well, guess what you could go do? You could go drive a school bus for two seasons, right? Add to your 120 or add to your 100. Maybe you could go make as a bus driver another 30. You did that for two years. You now made 130 and you got 80% of that. Follow where I'm going with this? That's part of the system, by the way, that needs to be fixed because you shouldn't be able to double dip like that. But a lot of folks did. and are now making that money in retirement guaranteed from PERA on the backs of taxpayers. Because remember, they didn't put that much in. Those last two years, they didn't contribute as much as what they should have, but yet the defined benefit says they still get the money. That's the problem with the system and also partly why they're underfunded by $27.5 billion. So I wanted to bring that to your attention. I talk about PERA a lot, and a lot of you that are inside the system probably should follow this closely now. On the same token, you're going to get your money no matter what because we as taxpayers have to fund it no matter what. But it's an important thing for taxpayers in Colorado to know where this is because it could very much affect us as taxpayers on down the road if this thing continues to go haywire, which it already is. So I'll keep you guys abreast of that, but that's a synopsis of what's going on inside of PARA and the Board of Trustees, which, by the way, sounds like kangaroo court to me, and it's run by a bunch of scoundrels. And I'll just say that straight up. So Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning is coming up next. If you've got any problems with your furnace, not working correctly, it's cold, you want to replace it, you need to tune up, whatever it is, give Cub Creek a call today. Find them at klzradio.com.
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This isn't Rage Radio. This is Real Relatable Radio. Back to Rush to Reason.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Not in my notes, but Charlie just reminded me of something that I can throw in here for the last six, seven minutes we have of the show. More FEC reports coming out on the Harris campaign and what she actually spent money on and who some of that money went to. Some of them, like, was it Beyonce, Charlie? What was the number? 185K to stand there. Yeah, it's to the management company, but we know how that works. She didn't do a thing. She stood there. In fact, people were mad because she didn't sing. But yet she earned $185,000 to basically stand up there and endorse Kamala Harris, Oprah Winfrey, her company, Harpo Productions. Million bucks for a video that they produced. Was it an hour? How long was the video, Charlie? I've got to look up how long the video was or what all went on there, but let me just tell you this. Knowing what I know about some of what goes on there, a million dollars is heavily, heavily, heavily inflated by probably an extra zero, and even that is being very generous. In other words, $100,000 is being very generous. It's borderline... In my opinion, borderline money laundering, depending upon what those actual individuals did back to the campaign, you have to wonder what's going on here. I mean, basically, at the end of the day, if I were a donor, I would be 90 minutes. Thank you, Charlie, 90 minutes. Yeah, a million bucks, far too much. And if I were a donor, I'd be hot because my money was wasted. That money really went to pad the pockets of a lot of celebrities is really what happened. And in turn, got their endorsements for Kamala Harris by doing so. If you were or you are a donor on that side, I would be extremely, extremely upset at what happened there. Again, more and more is going to come out on where the actual money was spent. There are claims now. Initially, they thought she spent about a billion dollars, but I think the number now, Charlie, is up to like 1.6, I want to say. $1.5, $1.6 billion that she alone in 90 days spent, and she's still short. What, was it $50 million she's short, Charlie, I want to say, or $20 million? $20 million she's short. And again, who knows if that's even the actual number at this point. Sounds like they don't have anybody that really knows how to add. A lot of fleecing went on there. I mean, in other words, a lot of people had their hand in the till, quote, unquote, and extracted money out of good donors that really did believe in her cause. I mean, those are the people that I really feel sorry for. There's a lot of people out there that really believed in the cause, and I would have to believe, unless I'm completely wrong and the left is just this ignorant, I got to believe this affects future fundraising. The more of this comes out, and the more they find how she literally wasted their money on a campaign that was, no matter what somebody on the left says, was dismal at best. How do you justify spending $1.6 billion? And you're still $20 million short, by the way. And then you find out some of the things I just mentioned a moment ago, and this is the tip of the iceberg. I think you're going to see a lot more money wasted than just that. I mean, some of the airtime that she even purchased was absolutely ludicrous, some of the money that she spent. And again, you're going to see more and more come out. And by law, just like here with our own Colorado GOP, you'll find out because you can't hide that stuff. If you do, you're going to jail. Well, maybe not as a Democrat, but a Republican sure would. So it'll continue to come out. We'll find out exactly where some of the money was spent. But again, if I were a donor, I would be extremely mad over the way that money was spent and handled because there's a lot of wealthy people already. I mean, keep in mind, Oprah's a billionaire. If Oprah really believed in her candidate and in her country that she felt so, you know, how should I say this, Charlie, burdened to help out, she should have done that for free, for a donation to the campaign and not taken the million dollars. Tells you how greedy people like Oprah really are. Now, Oprah will claim, well, I didn't know anything about it. You liar. Yeah, you did. Yeah. I know a million dollars to a billionaire isn't a lot, but it's still enough to pay attention to what's going on. And somebody in that organization would have said, hey, Oprah, guess what? Guess what? Guess what? The Harris campaign is asking us to do. By the way, how much do you think we ought to charge? Here's our first thought. What do you think? Trust me, folks, those conversations take place. As much as Oprah wants to sound like she doesn't know, she is a liar. Flat out liar. If she says she doesn't know, she's lying. Period. And there's nobody on the left that can defend that. And here's how I know. I'm a business owner. I know how these things work. I know the communication that happens inside of a business, and Oprah isn't that removed from that large of a deal that she wouldn't know what's going on. Period. And I also know that Oprah's not dumb, and she didn't get to where she's at today by not knowing what's going on in her own company. I'll give her credit where credit's due, but her to come out now and play dumb, shame on you, Oprah. You should know better than that. You're not going to get by with playing dumb. So veteran windows and doors is next. Entry doors right now, 40% off. Free labor to install. Give Dave a call today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
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Yeah, somebody just texted that the donors to the Harris campaign need to get a message telling them this is how Marxism works. Grow up. Yeah, can't argue that one, by the way. Great text message. I appreciate that. Yeah, you're not wrong. Let me just say that. You are not wrong. And really quick, somebody texted in, too. Who do I have that's a sponsor for the reverse mortgages? That is Bruce Simmons. American Liberty Mortgage. You can find Bruce at klzradio.com. Just look for Bruce Simmons. That's American Liberty Mortgage. And if you heard that via text or if you heard that answer to the text, please tell me you did. Otherwise, I'll text you back. But thank you, by the way, guys, for all the text messages. Have a great night. Be safe out there in the snow. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
This episode takes listeners through a vibrant mix of current events including a Florida man’s extravagant festive display, airline baggage horror stories, and a compelling discussion on the Jordan Neely case. As Dana navigates through controversial conversations on race and public safety, listeners gain insight into not just these incidents, but also the broader societal implications they represent. Stay tuned for a quick overview of world politics and international maneuvering as Trump's influence becomes a talking point.
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Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast, sponsored by Kel-Tec.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So when I first read that this Florida man had decorated his yard with the lamp from A Christmas Story, I thought, well, how big could it be? You'd be surprised. JP McCallick's suburban Jacksonville, Florida home. It's 20 feet tall. And it even includes a replica of Ralphie hugging the lamp wearing his pink bunny suit. Is it an inflatable? Because it really doesn't even look like it's an inflatable. But he goes, I like his response. He goes, quote, everyone's decorating their houses. And I thought it'd be fun to have like a neighborhood competition. And so he just decided to put that up. He also, I mean, it's crazy. He does not have what I would call traditional decorations. But that's funny. So he's got the giant leg lamp in his house. in his yard. I kind of like that though. I, I, I've been wanting to get a giant nativity and put in my yard, but I want a giant nativity, like a huge one. Some people in my household don't share my vision. I mean, no, but you know, if it's awkward, you know, I want like resin, right? We got to talk. We got to save this for later. Cause I got more. Hang on. I got more to get into. Um, Let's see. Oh, my gosh. Listen to this. A Florida man says Delta Airlines burned his golf bag and clubs worth nearly $4,000. Oh, and it looks real bad, too. I'm looking at the destruction of it. He said that his golf bag was burned and everything was charred. I don't even know how you burn because golf clubs are what are they? Metal? Aluminum? Yeah. He was this is in October. He was on a flight from Atlanta. He was waiting for his luggage at the Southwest Florida International Airport. And then he said when he saw it come around again, he goes, wait, oh, my gosh, those are our those are my clubs. The freight guy said that they dragged it and it wore through the protective covering, started to spark, and then it caught everything on fire. So he's filed a claim with Delta. Delta initially denied the claim. And finally they said that they're going to pay for it. But it was like for, I mean, and it looks bad. How do you drag them and then spark? That's just negligence. That's just laziness and negligence. I don't know how else, how else you attribute that. Look, I just want to show you the photo. Look at that. That's crazy. That's, that's what they look like. That's insane. Oh my gosh. Oh, let's see. Last but not least, a half-naked Florida man. I may have to share this tomorrow. High on meth, broke into a home, only to steal the resident's carpet cleaner. Our partners at Caltech, the P15. Standard capacity, 15 rounds. I highly recommend the P15, especially if you're looking for a concealed carry. Striker Fire Pistol. This is from the inventors of the micro-compact pistol category. Striker Fire Reliability. It is the P15. Stands for 15 PEWS. I mean, maybe not the PEW part, but 15 rounds. Comes with two standard capacity magazines. One's a 15-round minimal pinky extension. The other's a flush-fit double-stack mag that holds 12 rounds. It's 1.27 inches approximately wide. 4-inch barrel. Lifetime warranty. Tritium and fiber-optic front sight. Fully adjustable fiber-optic 2-dot rear sight. as well uh and the metal version comes with these gorgeous walnut uh panels the polymer version gator grip texture lightest thinnest double stack nine millimeter on the market hands down lighter and thinner than my 43x packs a punch without dragging you down without compromising stopping power or concealability uh it's a great great offer from caltech and you need to check it out p15 in time for christmas innovation performance and caltech learn more at caltechweapons.com K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com. It's the P-15. Tell them Dana sent you.
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You want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud? How about we do the same? When they attempt to oppress us. I'm tired. We need some.
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So this is just one of the one of the examples of BLM now demanding that apparently, I guess, as some kind of payment for Daniel Penny being found not guilty that now he's calling for a race war. He said, quote, people want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud. How about we do the same? We need some black vigilantes. First off, and again, welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. That's not how Jordan, that's not what happened with the situation of Jordan Ely. Why are they lying about and omitting that he was threatening to kill people on that subway platform? Why is Hawk Newsome, who sounds like the name of a Jeremy Clarkson bear, why is he pretending that Jordan Neely wasn't getting in the faces of women and their children and elderly people and anyone else on that subway platform and threatening to kill them and becoming more and more irate and getting closer and closer to them. That wasn't just Jordan Neely being loud. And, uh, or asking for food. That was Jordan Neely, who by every black and white witness that was on that subway platform said, yes, he absolutely was threatening to kill people. That's what they testified to. He was threatening to kill people. So Hawk Newsom believes that Jordan Neely should be free to kill people, punch elderly women in the face, shove women under train tracks and try to kidnap seven-year-olds because he's black. That's what Hawk Newsome believes. Hawk Newsome believes that if your skin color should determine whether or not you can just assault and threaten to murder people and maybe even murder people, why the hell not? He thinks that apparently that's a right to a specific skin color in the United States, as though this would have happened any differently if Jordan Neely was white. Because Hawk Newsome is a thug racist. He's an absolute racist. That's why he is just I mean, that's exactly what it is, what he is. That's just like, good golly, it's 2024. You think that Jordan Ely would have? What do you think? I cannot believe that anyone in their right mind would think that if Jordan Ely were white, that would have been acceptable. Oh, did you hear that man who is threatening to murder people and he got in the face of the woman and she's trying to protect her baby in a stroller and he's threatening to kill her? Well, was he white? Yeah. Oh, that's all right then. Really? Really? I mean, that says more about those people than it does about the people they're making the assumption about. And now this claim that, well, he got killed because he asked for some food or he got killed just because he was loud. No, that's not what happened at all. These people weren't there. The witnesses who testified were. They're rewriting this to try to make Jordan Neely some sort of hero, some sort of innocent. Daniel Penny was forced into the position that he was forced into. He was forced to use skills that he had learned as a veteran because of New York City. New York's lawlessness and disorder forced him into this position. It forced the people on that subway to cower in fear. It allowed Jordan Neely to freely threaten people until the point at which somebody had to do something because someone was going to get hurt. Where is the concern of this family for the woman that Jordan Neely punched in the face and broke her nose, the elderly woman? Because he had a warrant out for his arrest, by the way, at the time of his death for that. What did she do to get her face punched in? I noticed that the family, all these grifters who just decide to just show up, they didn't have a press conference for that woman. Can't a woman ride a subway in New York without getting punched in the face? People want to jump up and punch elderly women? What did she do? Did she ask for food? Was she loud? Or what about the seven-year-old that Jordan Ely was on video trying to drag down an alley? What did that seven-year-old do? Where's the family and all these grifting racist hustlers out there? Where are they all at? What did that seven-year-old do? Or what about the woman he tried shoving onto the train tracks? What did she do? I mean, how long do women have to take abuse from people like Jordan Neely before people grifting racist hustlers like wannabe Al Sharpton, Hawk Newsome, before they finally come to the realization that, OK, well, I guess, you know, I guess we're even now. Who who allowed you to determine that these people and abusing these people was was the way to make yourself feel equal or validated? I mean, this was an issue of self-defense. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, when does Hulk Newsom not incite a riot? When does he go out there and try to not incite riots? Everybody wants to be the next Al Sharpton. We already had one Al Sharpton. We don't need another. We don't need another no good, doesn't do anything for the community hustler. We don't need anybody else like that. And that's exactly what he is. He has provided nothing of value except he is a hustler. A race hustler. He doesn't even offer product. Good night. Was this supposed to end differently if Jordan Ely was white? Would this have ended differently if Jordan Ely was white?
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No, I mean, as far as someone who's done.
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I think he would have gotten his ass beaten sooner, honestly.
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Maybe.
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I really do think he would have.
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I do know the media would have definitely treated it differently.
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I think the only reason that Daniel Penny waited so long was because Jordan Ealy was black. Because everyone knows that you've got Hawk Newsoms out there who are going to blow this up. It's so damn predictable. Good night. It's so predictable. No, if Jordan Ealy was white, he would have gotten his ass beaten faster. And he probably would have gotten whooped. This was just Daniel Penny restraining a violent and with a violent record thug who apparently grifters feel should be given a pass because he's black. And then this family that comes up. Man, now you know why Jordan Ealy was the way he was. Look at his family. Look at his dad coming up there. I miss my son. You deadbeat SOB. When were you even around him? You know, these records are public, right? Everybody knows he gave him up, right? He had nothing to do with him. Oh, he smells money. He's going to come out there to the press conference. Oh, I miss my dead gay son. He's going to come out there. Heather's quote. He's going to come out there to the press conference. Show up, make everybody feel sorry for him. Maybe they'll dry his tears to some hundreds. Trash. These people are trash. Daniel Penny deserved this justice. He absolutely deserved it. Do we have audio yet of the dad at the press conference? We were talking about that. Yeah, let's play that. We were talking about this last hour. This is his dad at the press conference.
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I miss my son. My son didn't have to go through this. I didn't have to go through this either. It hurts. Really, really hurts. What are we going to do, people? What's going to happen to us now? I had enough of this.
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The system is rigged.
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The system is rigged.
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Come on, people.
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Let's do something about this. Should be able to threaten people. Let's do something about it. What do you mean? You know what? That's something that should have been done about this. Was your grifting. Welfare ass being there to raise your son. That's when something should have been done about this, dad. You should have been a man and you should have stood up and raised your son. You should have been there for your child, dad. That's when something should have been done. You know when something should have been done, dad? Right when he first started being violent, dad. That's when you should have been there, dad. You don't get to, when you've been MIA his whole life, go, oh, I'm tired of this. You didn't do nothing to be tired of, you lazy grifter thug. You didn't even do anything to be tired about. And now you want to throw the whole city into chaos and drag the country with it? Because you all abandoned your son? You deadbeat with your deadbeat mom and the deadbeat family and the deadbeat friends. I didn't see any of them people around. Oh, he was asking for food. Where were you at? Your son was out there asking for food. Then on the subway, where were you, dad? Where were you at? Where was mom? Where were the uncles and the aunts? Where were they at? The cousins, the family, the friends, where were? Oh, no. Oh, but they're all there with hand out. Wanting a settlement. They're all there, hands out, wanting some cash. For what? Because they happen to be in their minds fortuitously related to to Jordan Ely, but they weren't there for his life. No, what needed to be done, you missed the boat, Dad. You missed it multiple times throughout his life. So you don't get to come out now and be like, I don't even think he misses him. He didn't even sound sad. Of course, how could he be? He had no relationship with him. He didn't even know him. He just shows up in the aftermath. Hell, are they even sure it's his dad? Does anybody know? No. This deserves ridicule. You know why it deserves ridicule? Because there's another man who did the right thing. And he stepped up. And he was vilified for it. Thankfully, those witnesses, they told the, I mean, well, they were all in fear of their lives. They told the truth about what happened. Black and white. That's the other thing. All these race grifters out there. Do you realize the number of black innocent subway passengers who were testifying? They were scared, too. Do you think Jordan Neely was drawing a distinction between black and white when he was targeting and threatening people? No, he wasn't. You excuse this by acting like he was or by acting like he was the victim of some kind of like racial animus. He wasn't. There were black passengers on that subway who thought they were terrified, too. He was threatening them also. It is evil and soulless to make this about race. You are endorsing random violence against people by doing so. I hope people see through this. I really hope that they do. Every Democrats desperately need some they need something as a starter to light the fire and cause massive destabilization going into January. That's their M.O. every single time. And they're hoping this is it. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments, you can trust all family pharmacy has you covered, whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support or general well-being. All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So maybe pot noodle wasn't the best way to smuggle pot into prison. I just would think that if you're smuggling stuff into prison. I mean, I've seen Mayor of Kingstown. You know, it's a great show. I don't know if you've seen it or not. It's a great show. But I just feel like maybe. I don't know. That's maybe not the best way to. To go about getting stuff into prison. I don't know. By the way, everything froze, so I have no access to anything right now. So tell me, Cain, what is a pot noodle?
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A pot noodle? I guess it's one of those things you throw into a pot and includes noodles. And if it's Asian, then it'd probably be like a hot pot type situation. But the bottom line is... Okay, we're back in business. Okay, the bottom line is they thought it was food. It was not food.
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Can you OD on the... I mean, if you listen to all the Reefer Madness people, you can OD on it.
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On pot noodle?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No.
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The woman, Victoria Sked. She was hiding a lot of contraband on her person. MDMA, psychoactive substances, vials of steroids. Jeez. She was like a walking, you know, bodega. I was trying to say it like Jill Biden. It was really hard. But apparently it's like a huge operation. And they bring outside stuff into the prison. And anyway, yeah, she's in trouble. And apparently her whole ring of people are in trouble. A chemical spill at an Anheuser-Busch brewery in California led to an evacuation, according to CBS News. This Los Angeles Fire Department, they said it was a fire involving hazardous materials. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not as interested in this. I'm not. Oh, I want this one. No, this is not real. Is this real? What? The pit diaper.
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I was looking. It has its own website. Look, the link is right there. I provided the link. It's apparently... It looks like a comedy thing. It looks like something that you would see... How is it sold out?
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I don't believe this.
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Yeah, it's sold out.
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So the pit diaper... is if you've been to a concert and they said the scariest place isn't the mosh pit, it's the bathroom. And you don't have to brave that hellscape with a pit diaper powered by Depend. And it looks like a Chanel quilted leather with like a Lemmy kind of gold skull.
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Oh, man.
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And this is not real. Look at that. But it's from the liquid death people.
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If you're hard enough to go to the mosh pit, but not the bathroom, there's something wrong with you.
SPEAKER 02 :
Dude, have you been to, well, I know you've been to some of the die bar bathrooms.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I've been in mosh pits too.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm pretty sure that you can get like all the diseases in the world. Just that's where Wu flu came from.
SPEAKER 05 :
Guys have the least what? What did you say?
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't know. Let's move to the next headline. Slap therapy. An alternative healer got 10 years in prison for the death of a woman at a slap therapy workshop. I mean, how is that a thing? It's slapping therapy. It was a 71-year-old diabetic woman who stopped taking insulin during one of his workshops. Was he telling her he was going to slap the diabetes out of her? The technique has its roots in Chinese medicine, but critics say that it's stupid because it's dumb. It is dumb. It's so dumb. So in addition to this, we also have Trump has been in France, and he was there for the reopening of the Notre Dame Cathedral. Because as you know, there was a huge fire that went through 2019, damaged a lot of stuff. They had to do this super comprehensive rebuild. And then they had it – this is the opening week, so a lot of fanfare the opening week. So he was there. He met with – Britain's Prince William. And it's they notice that Joe's not there. Joe's not there. They sent the White House sent Jill and Ashley. So they sent a drug addict who left her diary talking about her incestual showers with her dad in the flophouse mattress. And then they sent Jill Biden. to go there to the opening of this cathedral, I guess, in place of Biden, who clearly would not have been. I mean, he hasn't been doing well. It was bad when he was in Africa. It was bad when he was in Brazil. He's not been doing well. So they sent them instead. Trump would, though, if you see him, do we have this video of him? I don't know if you want to say – is he shaking hands with Macron or is he arm wrestling with Emmanuel Macron? I mean there's a difference there. He was meeting Emmanuel Macron, the French president. He was meeting with a number of other world leaders. They were treating him as though he is the de facto already president. I mean it's just the formality of the inauguration that remains. And so he shows up and he's meeting. This is when he's going in and he's going to be meeting with some of the world leaders. But they're already I mean, they're treating it like a state visit. I wanted to ask you this. I was thinking about this. I don't remember a time when a president elect was basically given the de facto because this was not Jill Biden going on this red carpet. This is Trump on the red carpet. He's going to break Emmanuel Macron's hand here. So this is like the second or third time that this has happened, by the way. But and I'll come back to that. Am I looking too far into it? Because I was thinking about this. I don't remember another world president-elect getting this kind of treatment like this. This normally would have been a function of the president, and Biden clearly is incapacitated. So Trump there just acting like the inauguration is a formality, right? That's what it seems like.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, think about it. How many times has it happened to where the president that is currently president, isn't the future president, but he was also a past president, right? So this four years in between Trump's two terms is a unique situation. So I think they're receiving him like a president in his second term. That's what it's looking like to me.
SPEAKER 02 :
Also, Europe is a very different place than it was when Trump was elected in 2016 because you had Angela Merkel, who is considered the powerhouse in Europe. And then you could you saw her disastrous policies that led to this continued influx of illegal immigrants from northern Africa into Europe. The rise of Islamism in Germany. A lot of bad stuff happened under Angela Merkel. She didn't want to pay just the minimum GDP into NATO because she wanted, I guess, the United States to treat Germany's defense as a welfare entity. You also this is pre-Brexit. Now, a lot of things have changed. Like Italy is no longer in chaos. You have strong conservative leadership there. You have growing conservative leadership in the European Union since we have to get along with it and pretend that it's a viable entity for now. You have also a lot of more conservative leadership in Austria. You have the rise of conservatism in Spain. They've been destroying the Socialist Party there. You even have Emmanuel Macron, whose government's been thrown into chaos because of elections, etc. There he lost a lot of footing as conservative as the French can get. It's a lot different from very, very far left Macron. And then you even have Keir Starmer, who is, you know, albeit a socialist ruling as prime minister of the UK. But he's had to sit here and start blasting the open borders of the UK. And because he's his party is taking a beating in the pollings. I mean, he's losing support dramatically. That's going to alter again the makeup of that of those political factions. So it is a very different Europe.
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A jury finds Daniel Penny not guilty in the death of Jordan Neely. Trump attended the reopening of the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris in what looked like an unofficial state visit. A rebel army in Syria topples the dictatorial regime of Bashar al-Assad. BLM leader Hawk Newsome calls for "black vigilantes" to get active following Daniel Penny's acquittal as Neely’s dad comes out of the woodwork. Trump hints at bipartisan legislation to protect “DREAMers” in the US. UK Police arrest a man for an offensive post on Facebook. Stephen Yates joins us to discuss the rebellion in Syria as Assad is exiled to Russia, Trump’s Notre Dame appearance and more.
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You're watching right now some of the Trump visit to France. Of course, we have the Daniel Penny trial today, the verdict which came in. And golly, Syria, we go away one weekend. Well, we didn't go away. We just had a weekend and all hell breaks loose. So welcome to the program. And that a lot to get into. Dana Lash here with you. We're at the top of this first hour. I want to jump into before we do all our greetings and salutations. The verdict in the Daniel Penny trial was just announced just a little bit ago and not guilty is the verdict. Of course, the promise of riots and everything else have already started. It wouldn't be a day that ended in Y if it wasn't for protests and threats of riots and everything else with this verdict. In fact, I was watching, and I don't know if we have it, if we can get it. It just happened, so I know we probably don't have it. His father, Jordan Ely's father, they had this press conference and they had some of these activists, some of the community leaders that got up there and they were making their remarks. And his father was like, I miss my son. And I miss my son and this shouldn't have to happen, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, his dad is a deadbeat dad who had nothing to do with him. He like he gave him up. He wasn't involved in his life at all. He didn't know that his son was on drugs. He didn't know any or maybe he did, but he didn't do anything. He knew nothing, nothing about Jordan Neely. Jordan Neely's dad knew nothing about him. He wasn't interested in him until Jordan Neely was dead. And then all of a sudden, oh, here comes the dad because he thinks that he can get some kind of something. He, boy, he thinks that he can really get some, maybe some money in a civil suit. And he gets up there. They also had Eric Garner's mom up there, which I thought you cannot compare Eric Garner to Jordan Neely. Those are two entirely stupidly different cases because Eric Garner, if you remember, was the man who was put into a hold. And he was he was first a police first went up to him because he was selling loose cigarettes. Right. Remember the whole Lucy law in New York. So in New York. Because New York wants to get its tax dollars. They made it to where you could no longer sell singular cigarettes. And this was what the city council did. So they decided that they were going to enforce in a harsher manner the new criminal statute that the city council had proposed because they didn't want people. They wanted New York to be able to get its tax dollars from the sale of Of these cigarettes. And so when they first showed up, there had been the report of an altercation. And that's why police showed up in the first place, because there was an altercation. And then they see Eric Garner there. And remember, all the people that got mad at the cops, who was it that actually passed the law that nobody got mad at? Who was it that passed the law that actually did the thing that made it to where they were demanding stronger police enforcement? Who was it? Because it wasn't the police. The police don't pass those laws. Do you think that the police wanted to pass laws for themselves that were forcing them to have to, in a more insane manner, police things like loose cigarettes? They didn't want to do that. In fact, you can see that Juan was showing you on the simulcast there. That was the guy who was in the sock hat is Jordan Neely's dad. And then they have Eric Garner's mom and everybody's standing right there. So when police first got involved and they first showed up and they were engaging with Eric Garner. They were doing that on behalf of the tougher, stricter laws. And that was under Michael Bloomberg when he was still mayor. That's when all of that happened. Nobody was protesting the nobody was protesting the people at City Hall, the city council. Nobody was doing that. No one was protesting them. And it was those were the ones who did that. So I bring that up because this idea that Daniel Penny, who is defending himself and others, is that Jordan Neely is the same as Eric Garner is stupid. I don't think Eric Garner should have been should have been approached by cops in the first place. But that was the cops fault. That was the city council's fault. That was the local politician, Democrat politician's fault in New York City for demanding that there be these super strict, dumb laws about the sale of loose cigarettes so that Manhattan could get their tax money. That was something that city council did, not the cops. So Eric Garner, you can't even compare him to Jordan Ely. Jordan Ely was an evil thug who targeted women and children. He was an absolute monster who targeted women and children. And if it wasn't going to be Daniel Penny, it was going to be someone else. Maybe, I don't know, all the people out there, they would have been happy if he would have followed through on his threats and murdered that mom and baby on the train because those were the people that he was getting in their faces. He was getting in the faces of some other folks. Interestingly enough, when you read all of the witness accounts, it was all women that he was really trying to target because he sounds like a woman hater. This guy was a violent, evil thug. And I think violent, evil thugs, if the state of New York, if the city of Manhattan, if they're not going to do anything to protect the people, then by God, you've got to allow people to protect themselves and each other. If you don't want vigilantism, then do your damn job. And this was all because Jordan Neely's grifting thug family abandoned him. Had no idea what he was doing at all, but they smell money. They're all sniffing around like the grifters they are. Absolute trash humans. His whole family's trash. You're not even going to be around until what till he's dead. And now now you're going to act all sad. I don't think so. This is one of the things that we're watching today. We got a lot more on this this verdict, especially now as because he's acquitted. And I guess somebody had to change a heart over the weekend because there was a little bit of concern that he wasn't going to be. I mean, they were going into four days of deliberations. So in addition to this, we also have Trump is in has been in France. And he was there for the reopening of the Notre Dame, the Notre Dame Cathedral. Because as you know, there was a huge fire that went through 2019, damaged a lot of stuff. They had to do this, this super comprehensive rebuild. And then they, they had it. This is the opening week. So a lot of fanfare, the opening week. So he's, he was there. He met with, uh, Britain's Prince William. And it's they notice that Joe's not there. Joe's not there. They sent the White House sent Jill and Ashley. So they sent a drug addict who left her diary talking about her incestual showers with her dad in the flophouse mattress. And then they sent Jill Biden. to go there to the opening of this cathedral, I guess, in place of Biden, who clearly would not have been. I mean, he hasn't been doing well. It was bad when he was in Africa. It was bad when he was in Brazil. He's not been doing well. So they sent them instead. Trump would, though, if you see him, do we have this video of him? I don't know if you want to say is he shaking hands with Macron or is he arm wrestling with Emmanuel Macron? I mean, there's a there's a difference there. He was meeting Emmanuel Macron, the French president. He was meeting with a number of other world leaders. They were treating him as though he is the de facto already president. You know, I mean, it's just the it's just the the formality of the inauguration that remains there. And so he shows up and he's meeting. This is when he's going in and he's going to be meeting with some of the world leaders. But they're already I mean, they're treating it like a state visit. I wanted to ask you this. I was thinking about this. I don't remember a time when a president elect was basically given the de facto because this was not Jill Biden going on this red carpet. This is Trump on the red carpet. He's going to break Emmanuel Macron's hand here. So this is like the second or third time that this has happened, by the way. But and I'll come back to that. Am I looking too far into it? Because I was thinking about this. I don't remember another world president-elect getting this kind of treatment like this. This normally would have been a function of the president, and Biden clearly is incapacitated. So Trump there just acting like the inauguration is a formality, right? That's what it seems like.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, think about it. How many times has it happened to where the president That is currently president isn't the future president, but he was also a past president, right? So this, this four years in between Trump's two terms is a unique situation. So I think they're receiving him like a president in his second term. That's what it's looking like to me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Also, Europe is a very different place than it was when Trump was elected in 2016, because you had Angela Merkel, who is considered the powerhouse in Europe. And then you could you saw her disastrous policies that led to this continued influx of illegal immigrants from northern Africa into Europe. The rise of Islamism in Germany. A lot of bad stuff happened under Angela Merkel. She didn't want to pay just the minimum GDP into NATO because she wanted, I guess, the United States to treat Germany's defense as a welfare entity. You also this is pre-Brexit. Now, a lot of things have changed. Like Italy is no longer in chaos. You have strong conservative leadership there. You have growing conservative leadership in the European Union since we have to get along with it and pretend that it's a viable entity for now. You have also a lot of more conservative leadership in Austria. You have the rise of conservatism in Spain. They've been destroying the Socialist Party there. You even have Emmanuel Macron, whose government's been thrown into chaos because of elections, etc. There he lost a lot of footing as conservative as the French can get. It's a lot different from very, very far left Macron. And then you even have Keir Starmer, who is, you know, albeit a socialist ruling as prime minister of the UK. But he's had to sit here and start blasting the open borders of the UK. And because he's his party is taking a beating in the pollings. I mean, he's losing support dramatically. That's going to alter again the makeup of that of those political factions. So it is a very different Europe. Interesting. We got a lot to dive into because we've got this. We not only have latest domestically, but we got to talk about the issue of Syria and Lindsey Graham. already beating the war drums. Of course he is. But we're going to get into all of that, get you up to speed so you know who the players are in Syria, why the United States shouldn't be involved in it at all whatsoever, and then the implications that this has as the transition of Trump into the White House after Biden, what all that means coming up in January. So we have a lot to get into. And of course, plus the ongoing, we got our eyes on the reaction to the Daniel Penny verdict and the threats of and all of that stuff. Black Rifle Coffee Company, look, I love their coffee because I'm really picky. Starbucks tastes horrible. A lot of the other coffee companies out there that say they roast their beans here in the USA, they don't. They get it from Canada or Brazil and then they put a sticker on a pre-roasted bag and then they sell it like it's fresh. Let's be real. Black Rifle Coffee doesn't do that. Veteran owned, veteran operated. They hire active duty and vets and retired. And they just do they do a really good job. And they're nerds about coffee. And I'm glad that they're nerds about coffee because I don't want to know how it's made. I just want it to taste good. And Black Rifle Coffee has so many amazing roasts. They have their Freedom Roast right now, which is totally what the Founding Fathers would have drank if Black Rifle Coffee had anachronistically existed back in the times of our founders. They totally would have. You know, Washington would have had a cup a day more. You can save 20% using code Dana at BlackRifleCoffee.com. Every sip of the Freedom Roast is a celebration of liberty and a tribute to those who fought for our awesome republic. You can subscribe to their coffee club, get your free shipping, automated orders sent straight to your doorstep, and never, ever, ever run out of your favorite coffee. No need for last-minute trips. And if you're stocked up on coffee but you still need some Christmas ideas, they've got a whole bean, K-cups, ready-to-drink apparel, kettles, grinders, mugs, and more. Their apparel is really popular, by the way, with the young dudes, too. So just an idea. So get your freedom on with the Freedom Roast. Check out the merch at BlackRifleCoffee.com and taste all their top shelf roasts like Just Black, Silence or Smooth, always a favorite. Whatever you decide, though, 20% off with Code Dana. 20% off Code Dana, BlackRifleCoffee.com.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Ah, yes. All right. First up. That was I know our Christmas song. You got to start with baby. It's cold outside. You have to. Google is suing to stop the United States from monitoring it like a bank. Maybe it should be less evil. Isn't that their slogan? Literally, isn't it? The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. announced on Friday that it had placed Google Payment Corp under federal supervision. The company filed a lawsuit to block the bureau's order, which could result in routine inspections and monitoring those imposed on banks, on the banking industry. They found that Google's error resolution and fraud prevention processes pose risks to customers, citing customer complaints about the Google Pay balance and their peer-to-peer payments. And so they're going out. I'm not opposed. I mean, they should have to play like everybody else. CNN had the lowest week in ratings in decades last week. The absolute lowest. Super low. And the age, that magical group, 25 to 54, it was the lowest number of viewers that they've had in almost 30 years. 30 years. They got about 260,000 viewers per day. How in the hell we get more listeners than that? We get millions of listeners a day. And we do know this factually. I am shocked that they get 260,000 viewers per day. This is at the end of November. How in the world are they open? They have a huge headquarters in Atlanta. How do they keep those doors open? How are you selling ads on that? Golly, that's the lowest ratings that they've had in 30 years. Burglars dressed as gardeners have been targeting San Bernardino homes, according to KTLA. They've been dressing up as lawn care experts and then they get out and then they've been robbing people. A secret Pentagon study is hinting at reincarnation being real after finding that consciousness never dies. It's kind of an old study and it's talking about like cellular life, but not the same thing. Stick with us. The thing that aggravates me People are like, well, I just don't want to go into a gun-free zone. That's great. I would love to have that luxury. I don't. I have a job that requires me to go places where I can't always carry because I've got a roof to keep over my head and people to feed and bills to pay, just like everybody else. But I am not going to make myself defenseless. I am not one of those people who have any issue using lethal force, protecting themselves or their loved ones, and I will always encourage you to carry. I also think that you need to have a diversified array at your disposal so that you're ready for any type of situation. And this is where the burner gun comes in. It's a non firearm firearm. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. And when you compare it to regular like stun guns. They have like one or two shots. Berna SD, their most popular selling model, has five rounds. And it gives you a defensive option when the state or a private entity is trying to deny you of a force multiplier, a way to defend yourself. There's no background check. There's no waiting period. It's illegal in all 50 states and they can ship it right to your front door. It also does not care about gun-free zone signs. So when your options of defense are limited, the Burna gun is a great alternate choice. So check it out. You can visit Burna.com slash Dana. That's the only place where you can get 10% off. I mean, you can buy it elsewhere, but you're not going to get a 10% discount unless you go through Burna.com slash Dana. That's B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana for 10% off.
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With a new constitution, a new government that serves all Syrians, this process will be determined by the Syrian people themselves. The United States will do whatever we can to support them, including through humanitarian relief to help restore Syria after more than a decade of war. and generational brutality by this odd family.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I don't even know what that means, and I don't think he does either. That was Joe Biden saying that he's going to send aid to the new regime to rebuild Syria. Well, who the hell is the new regime? I mean, we know the players in this, right? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you here at the bottom of this first hour. And that's one of the things, obviously, that we've been watching happen over in the Middle East. The Arab League was trying to negotiate. That kind of fell apart. This has really been the worst, though, for the Ayatollah and the mullahs over in Iran. It's really been the worst for them and the worst for Russia because you've had Bashar al-Assad The, you know, described as a very brutalist leader of the regime for, you know, the past couple of decades was educated in London, married a British born wife, goes back. He wasn't even supposed to lead Syria. His brother was. His brothers killed a car crash in Damascus. They called him back. They basically put him through tyrant training. And then he ended up running Syria and he was backed by Russia and Iran. Now, as long as things were stable for both Russia and Iran, the Assad regime in Syria had muscle because that's who kept them in power. You know, the Russians sent military might and the Iranians sent money. And of course, they had the assistance of Hezbollah and Hamas. But see, after Russia got itself mired in this fight, four-year battle now with Ukraine, and then Iran decided to FAFO with Israel, and Israel's crushing Hamas in the south and crushing Hezbollah in the north and Lebanon, that really exposed Syria. It exposed the Assad regime's weak point, and that They were relying entirely on that trifecta. But that was kind of Iran's goal, though. They wanted to create in this mostly Sunni Arab world, the Persian Shiite Muslim population of Iran and going into Lebanon and going into Syria. They wanted to have this this crescent. of military might and muscle and control. They wanted to be the influential entity. And Iran really needed Syria. They used them for a lot of things. So, excuse me, still recovering from being under the weather, as I told you all last week. But now with Iran compromised and Russia compromised, who's going to be propping up Assad? And it's not like there are good choices here. Everyone's like, oh, Bashar al-Assad's a butcher. Have you seen the people coming in to Syria? You know they're terrorists, right? They're old terrorists. They're just a different type of terrorist. There's no regime to be throwing money at. I know Biden loves to throw cash at terrorists like, you know, his son at a strip club. But that's not how this works. They're still terrorists. They are. So I don't know. You're going to have something. I mean, nothing's going to change. You're going to have a more brutalist, perhaps, entity sweep through. I mean, not that Bashar al-Assad wasn't. There just aren't any good choices here. It doesn't help that you have Lindsey Graham. Good night. Lindsey Graham. Loves war drums. And he gets very excited about the prospect of showing off war ink. And so he had, I'm not going to read this whole thing, this whole post at X where he said he was talking about airstrikes against ISIS targets in Syria. That's not going to be enough. And he said that there's 50,000 ISIS prisoners in northeastern Syria that are held by Kurdish forces and they can't be released. He said we should not allow Kurdish forces who helped us destroy ISIS on Trump's watch be threatened by Turkey or the radical Islamists who have taken over Syria. And I think that's a legitimate point. Not that we need to do it because we're the hell's Arab League. You know, if this is really ultimately a battle between Sunni and Shia, then then. Sunni and Shiite, why are we involved? This is the Arab League that will handle this. If Sunnis want to control everything, then let them battle it out. If Shiite want to push back, then let them battle it out. Now, I get the argument that The last time ISIS was in charge, and this was what Graham was saying, thousands of Europeans and Americans were killed by ISIS plots that originated in Syria. They don't want Syria to become a hotbed of whatever. Where have I heard this before? Oh, we've got to send our people over there so that we can weed out any terrorists and prevent that area from becoming a terrorist hotspot, from becoming a communist hotspot, they said, of Vietnam. From becoming a terrorist hotspot, they said, in South America. From becoming a terrorist hotspot, they said, in Iraq, one, two, and maybe three. They said in Afghanistan. I mean, when does it stop? Yemen. Where do we stop? Right? When does it stop? I don't think that's working, is it? Also, how far tinfoil do you want me to go? Just a little bit. I am... Endlessly amused. Because I look at when Barack Obama was president. This is, you know, back in 08, going all the way up into, you know, 2016. And it really seems as though this is a regime change similar to Libya. In a way. I'm not saying the people or the brutality is the same. But it has the hallmarks of that kind of flip. Like it has the hallmarks of other entities being involved. Like these other entities help kind of pin everything down until they could destabilize it. Interestingly enough, right, as Trump is going into office. Just saying. Now keep it quiet while Obama doesn't do anything for, you know, eight years. Keep it relatively, you know, kind of quiet, not really, you know, sort of, or at least not in the news under Biden. Oh, no, no, just let it all pop off now that Trump's coming into office. Right. I mean, do you I'm not going to pretend that we don't have any CIA assets or anything like that. There's not some like CIA Mossad kind of joint venture over there. Come on. Let's look. These people are literally driving in with crappy AKs and Toyotas. All right. This is the same type of terrorist group like what the Taliban when they were rolling through Afghanistan, getting towns to declare surrender via WhatsApp. This is not like it's a highly sophisticated venture, okay? It's who can be the biggest terrorist thug. That's what it is. It's a competition. So I feel like, and I've always felt like this about this region. I haven't really talked a ton about Syria just because it's been kind of ongoing and it's not related directly to U.S. interests. But they're trying to make it like that because they're going to try to say that Trump abandoned people in Syria and they want to be able to have a narrative on a Republican president. I feel like after the narrative about Barack Obama abandoning the Iranians during the Green Revolution, remember all of that as it was following the Arab Spring? Just saying. It feels like that's what... I'm just saying it feels like that's what it's gearing up to. It feels like that. I mean, how... These now all of a sudden now. you have this major shift. They said Assad's now in Moscow. He's been given – they brought him to Moscow, and he's in exile basically in Moscow now, he and his family. And I was reading that some Russian government officials told the Russian press that he got there Sunday. I don't know. I think he maybe got there sooner. So that means – that signals that he's not going to stay and fight it out. Of course, how is he going to? Russia's already abandoned it. They've already been pulling out whatever assets they have in Syria to help bolster what they're doing with Ukraine. Iran's like losing its mind because now they look like their regime looks very, very tenuous. You have the destruction of Hamas, the destruction of Hezbollah. You have Israeli tanks rolling through. They're not playing around. Imagine if they would have listened to the advice of Democrats in the United States and not done what they did with the assault against Hezbollah in the north. All of this, I doubt it would have been exposed as fast. I think that day was coming, but I doubt it would have been exposed as fast. But to go back to my point with Libya, because it very much... Reminds me of that. And I think that this it's it's a it's kind of a regime change. But also, I mean, there there isn't I mean, there isn't a good choice. And with Gaddafi, I think that there was less of a threat in keeping him in. As opposed to Assad, because Assad is very important to the Shiite crescent of power. It's incredibly important to that. And now, you know, now they're all reduced to just giving them asylum in Moscow. This is one of the things we're going to talk to Stephen Yates about because this also implicates China. Now, China never really looked at Syria as as though it was a very important cog in the machine. But Syria was part of China's Belt and Road Initiative. And China was they wanted to have that association. Of course, they also are friendly with Russia. They're friendly with Iran. Now, think about it. You have the Shiite crescent of power and they are trying to push back against the Sunni Muslim influence. Interesting what this means for China as well. So I don't know. I, I, I feel like. This is it just reminds me so much of all of that with Gaddafi. Now, you guys remember with Libya and Gaddafi, that was Hillary Clinton, secretary of state. She really stepped in it. I this she is for all of her ambition and certain things she is intelligent about. She was moronic about, either she was an idiot about geopolitical alliances in Egypt and Libya and Northern Africa, or she just did it because she was a chaos agent. She was a destabilizing factor. Because remember, when Egypt was having their election, she went in back, this was, what was this, like 2010, 2011? She went in and was backing the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, which had been exercised from the country. They ran the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egypt. They looked at them as a terrorist entity. she helped ingratiate them back into Egypt very briefly before they were run out again. And you remember the Arab Spring. After Hillary Clinton's involvement, that's when all hell broke loose. And then, of course, you see the destabilization. And she has, what was his name? Her friend. Blumenthal? Yeah. Sidney Blumenthal. He worked with the Clinton Foundation. Sidney Blumenthal. And he was one of many of her, of the Clinton's associates. He was, remember, he was accused of writing intelligence that he had sent to Hillary Clinton, etc. He got paid a lot. He was a full-time employee of the Clinton Foundation. The New York Times had a story. This was like back in 2015. He turned over all his memos on Libya. He wanted to be there on the ground floor to undercut the Gaddafi regime. And he wanted to be part of instituting a new regime in Libya. And Clinton was going to have her fingerprints all over it. And it all blew up because they're morons and they didn't realize how entrenched ISIS was. That was all. That was the United States helped create that destabilization in Libya. Not that Syria isn't destabilized, but why in the hell are any Republicans talking about getting involved and backing a new regime? Why is Biden? Why do Biden and Lindsey Graham sound the same on this? We've got a lot to discuss. We've got days of these United States coming up. Our partners at Caltech, the P-15. Standard capacity, 15 rounds. I highly recommend the P-15, especially if you're looking for a concealed carry striker fire pistol. This is from the inventors of the micro compact pistol category. Striker fire reliability. It is the P-15. Stands for 15 PEWS. I mean, maybe not the PEW part, but 15 rounds. Comes with two standard capacity magazines. 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Well, hey, everybody. It's Friday all day, as my Nana would say. And look what I have on my lip. Everybody's been saying, you have herpes, you have herpes all this time. And I never had a cold sore in my life. And now I have a cold sore. And it makes me think that perhaps this weird pimple that had a tiny little head was a cold sore, too. And so I talked to my doctor today, and I did a video telehealth. And they said that... It's not a cold sore. It's some reaction to the sun. Now, I did sit in the sun yesterday, but I had sunscreen on. So, I don't know. I will let you know tomorrow if I do, in fact, have herpes.
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Who cares? Who does this stuff? You see this sore on my mouth? Does it look like a herpes? Yeah, I'm going to let you know tomorrow. I'm going to watch. I'm going to herpes watch. Who does this kind of stuff? She's so weird. I cannot, this is not what, you know what, the internet, this is not what it was made for. It really, I mean, maybe in your neck of the woods, you know, you want to do that. That's, I don't know. I just, that's so, who does that? Who does that? That's so nasty. That's so nasty. You don't have to just, I sat on the sun yesterday. Like, does she just not have anything to do in life anymore? That she just does, she just, random, like, oversharing. Everybody has, you guys know you all have like that grandma or that great aunt or aunt, your auntie in your family, the oversharing auntie. You guys know exactly what I'm talking about because y'all have one. Y'all know, right? You all know. I had a, oh gosh, it's going to take everything I have. So I had a family member, God rest her soul. Her big thing was offering Imodium to everyone at like family events. events right like because she thought it was a like a healthy part of cola i don't know is the weirdest thing like she would try to ascertain if you were on the reg you know what i mean and then she would either offer you a modium or whatever colase or whatever the thing that she was on oh my gosh non like Just had no problem going up to cousins. If a cousin brought a girlfriend or a boyfriend, you know, it doesn't matter. You know, they're in, you're here at the table too. We're going to ask you, you know, going to ask you about your co-lace habits. Do you need any? Do you? I'm like, why? Who does this? Rosie O'Donnell's that person. All right. So we have more from our Christmified set. I'm in blue today. It's rare. Make sure you tune in. Keep tuning in. Next hour on the way. Life can take a toll on our bodies. There's no way around it. And whether it's just sitting for hours on end at your computer or if you're working a physical job, over time, your body pays the price. There is, however, an effective way to turn back the clock on pain. Relief Factor. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor helps support your body's response to inflammation. And the difference, instead of just masking pain, Relief Factor helps eliminate it for good. And it's 100% drug-free. My husband, Chris, has taken Relief Factor with incredible results. So if the pains that come with living a full life are affecting you, do as many others have done and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. Their three-week quick start is just $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. And when you feel good, it's amazing how much more you get out of life. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Try it for only $19.95 and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. Oh, I thought we were welcome. We got this video I wanted to play for you. That's BLM. If we can pull this up. I have it actually on Twitter. If you could get my audio up. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you at the top of the second hour. I have this. I'm going to get this going for you. This is some of the audio from Hawk Newsome, the guy who founded BLM of Greater New York. And he's calling. I mean, listen to his threats. He's calling for vigilantism in this audio.
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Wow.
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Oh, okay. If you guys can't hear that, this is Hawk Newsome. He founded this. If we can get this audio. He founded this. BLM of Greater New York. And...
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You can hear some of this audio here. When they attempt to oppress us. I'm tired. We need some.
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So this is just one of the one of the examples of BLM now demanding that apparently, I guess, as some kind of payment for Daniel Penny being found not guilty that now he's calling for a race war. He said, quote, people want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud. How about we do the same? We need some black vigilantes. First off, and again, welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. That's not how Jordan, that's not what happened with the situation of Jordan Ely. Why are they lying about and omitting that he was threatening to kill people on that subway platform? Why is Hawk Newsome, who sounds like the name of a Jeremy Clarkson bear, Why is he pretending that Jordan Neely wasn't getting in the faces of women and their children and elderly people and anyone else on that subway platform and threatening to kill them and becoming more and more irate and getting closer and closer to them? That wasn't just Jordan Neely being loud. And, uh, or asking for food. That was Jordan Neely, who by every black and white witness that was on that subway platform said, yes, he absolutely was threatening to kill people. That's what they testified to. He was threatening to kill people. So Hawk Newsome believes that Jordan Neely should be free to kill people, punch elderly women in the face, shove women under train tracks and try to kidnap seven-year-olds because he's black. That's what Hawk Newsome believes. Hawk Newsome believes that if your skin color should determine whether or not you can just assault and threaten to murder people and maybe even murder people, why the hell not? He thinks that apparently that's a right to a specific skin color in the United States, as though this would have happened any differently if Jordan Neely was white. Because Hawk Newsome is a thug racist. He's an absolute racist. That's why he is just I mean, that's exactly what it is, what he is. That's just, like, good golly, it's 2024. You think that Jordan Ely would have, what do you think? I cannot believe that anyone in their right mind would think that if Jordan Ely were white, that would have been acceptable. Oh, did you hear that man who was threatening to murder people and he got in the face of the woman and she's trying to protect her baby in a stroller and he's threatening to kill her? Well, was he white?
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Oh, that's all right then. Really? Really? I mean, that says more about those people than it does about the people they're making the assumption about. And now this claim that, well, he got killed because he asked for some food or he got killed just because he was loud. No, that's not what happened at all. These people weren't there. The witnesses who testified were. They're rewriting this to try to make Jordan Neely some sort of hero, some sort of innocent. Daniel Penny was forced into the position that he was forced into. He was forced to use skills that he had learned as a veteran because of New York City. New York's lawlessness and disorder forced him into this position. It forced the people on that subway to cower in fear. It allowed Jordan Neely to freely threaten people until the point at which somebody had to do something because someone was going to get hurt. Where is the concern of this family for the woman that Jordan Neely punched in the face and broke her nose, the elderly woman? Because he had a warrant out for his arrest, by the way, at the time of his death for that. What did she do to get her face punched in? I noticed that the family, all these grifters who just decide to just show up, they didn't have a press conference for that woman. Can't a woman ride a subway in New York without getting punched in the face? People want to jump up and punch elderly women? What did she do? Did she ask for food? Was she loud? Or what about the seven-year-old that Jordan Ely was on video trying to drag down an alley? What did that seven-year-old do? Where's the family and all these grifting racist hustlers out there? Where are they all at? What did that seven-year-old do? Or what about the woman he tried shoving onto the train tracks? What did she do? I mean, how long do women have to take abuse from people like Jordan Neely before people grifting racist hustlers like wannabe Al Sharpton, Hawk Newsome, before they finally come to the realization that, OK, well, I guess, you know, I guess we're even now. Who who allowed you to determine that these people and abusing these people was was the way to make yourself feel equal or validated? I mean, this was an issue of self-defense. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, when does Hulk Newsome not incite a riot? When does he go out there and try to not incite riots? Everybody wants to be the next Al Sharpton. We already had one Al Sharpton. We don't need another. We don't need another no good, doesn't do anything for the community hustler. We don't need anybody else like that. And that's exactly what he is. He has provided nothing of value except he is a hustler. A race hustler. He doesn't even offer product. Good night. Was this supposed to end differently if Jordan Ely was white? Would this have ended differently if Jordan Ely was white?
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No, I mean, as far as someone who's done.
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I think he would have gotten his ass beaten sooner, honestly.
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Maybe.
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I really do think he would have.
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I do know the media would have definitely treated it differently.
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I think the only reason that Daniel Penny waited so long was because Jordan Ealy was black. Because everyone knows that you've got Hawk Newsoms out there who are going to blow this up. It's so damn predictable. Good night. It's so predictable. No, if Jordan Ealy was white, he would have gotten his ass beaten faster. And he probably would have gotten his whooped. This was just Daniel Penny restraining a violent and with a violent record thug who apparently grifters feel should be given a pass because he's black. And then this family that comes up. Man, now you know why Jordan Ealy was the way he was. Look at his family. Look at his dad coming up there. I miss my son. You deadbeat SOB. When were you even around him? You know, these are records are public, right? Y'all, everybody knows he gave him up, right? He had nothing to do with him. Oh, he smells money. He's going to come out there to the press conference. Oh, I miss my dead gay son. He's going to come out there. Heather's quote. He's going to come out there to the press conference. Show up, make everybody feel sorry for him. Maybe they'll dry his tears with some hundreds. Trash. These people are trash. Daniel Penny deserved this justice. He absolutely deserved it. We got this. Do we have audio of his? Do we have audio yet of the dad at the press conference? We were talking about that. Yeah, let's play that. We're talking about this last hour. This is his dad at the press conference.
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I miss my son. My son didn't have to go through this. I didn't have to go through this either. It hurts. Really, really hurts. What are we going to do, people? What's going to happen to us now?
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I had enough of this. The system is rigged.
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The system is rigged.
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Come on, people.
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Let's do something about this. Should be able to threaten people. Let's do something about it. What do you mean? You know what? That's something that should have been done about this. Was your grifting... Welfare ass being there to raise your son. That's when something should have been done about this, dad. You should have been a man and you should have stood up and raised your son. You should have been there for your child, dad. That's when something should have been done. You know when something should have been done, dad? Right when he first started being violent, dad. That's when you should have been there, dad. You don't get to, when you've been MIA his whole life, go, oh, I'm tired of this. You didn't do nothing to be tired of, you lazy grifter thug. You didn't even do anything to be tired about. And now you want to throw the whole city into chaos and drag the country with it? Because you all abandoned your son? You deadbeat with your deadbeat mom and the deadbeat family and the deadbeat friends. I didn't see any of them people around. Oh, he was asking for food. Where were you at? Your son was out there asking for food. Then on the subway, where were you, dad? Where were you at? Where was mom? Where were the uncles and the aunts? Where were they at? The cousins, the family, the friends, where were? Oh, no. Oh, but they're all there with hand out. Wanting a settlement. They're all there, hands out, wanting some cash. For what? Because they happen to be, in their minds, fortuitously related to to Jordan Ely, but they weren't there for his life. No, what needed to be done, you missed the boat, Dad. You missed it multiple times throughout his life. So you don't get to come out now and be like, I don't even think he misses him. He didn't even sound sad. Of course, how could he be? He had no relationship with him. He didn't even know him. He just shows up in the aftermath. Hell, are they even sure it's his dad? Does anybody know? No. This deserves ridicule. You know why it deserves ridicule? Because there's another man who did the right thing. And he stepped up. And he was vilified for it. Thankfully, those witnesses, they were all in fear of their lives. They told the truth about what happened. Black and white. That's the other thing. All these race grifters out there. Do you realize the number of black innocent subway passengers who were testifying? They were scared, too. Do you think Jordan Neely was drawing a distinction between black and white when he was targeting and threatening people? No, he wasn't. You excuse this by acting like he was or by acting like he was the victim of some kind of like racial animus. He wasn't. There were black passengers on that subway who thought they were terrified, too. He was threatening them also. It is evil and soulless to make this about race. You are endorsing random violence against people by doing so. I hope people see through this. I really hope that they do. Democrats desperately need something as a starter to light the fire and cause massive destabilization going into January. That's their M.O. every single time. And they're hoping this is it. It's infuriating. I'm glad justice was prevented. Actually, you know what? This wasn't even justice. This never should have been in court in the first place. Daniel Penny never should have been charged. Ever. We got a lot more on the way. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, All Family Pharmacy has you covered. Whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support, or general well-being, All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages. designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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You guys remember Fat Joe? So Fat Joe at one point weighed like 500 pounds. Apparently he's lost over 200 pounds. He said he did so on Ozempic because he has apparently, I guess he deals with diabetes. He's just Joe now. He's not Fat Joe anymore, dude. He's just Joe. What? I'm not saying this to be mean. His head's still the same size. It is. Don't be like a lollipop. Don't be like them Hollywood starlets though, Joe. Where they lose all their weight and then they've got their head, regular sized head on their little thin skinny body. So don't be like that. Don't get thin and skinny. Nobody wants that. Yeah, gosh, he just looks like he could blow him over just by blowing at him. He falls over. I don't know. Anyway, I had to share that because I was shocked when I saw that. Shooketh. Let's see. Traffic chaos is caused by 30 pounds of melted chocolate on a Bay Area highway. Oh, man. Ooh, that looks really bad. The photos look really bad. This big rig was carrying chocolate in East Bay, caught fire Friday morning. Tons of tons and tons and tons of chaos. They said it was 618 a.m., so right during rush hour, you know. And it was a mechanical issue at first that the truck's brakes on fire, then it spread to the rest of the truck. Can I just say that I bet it smelled real good? You know, that whole area smelled like melted chocolate. Do you think anybody tried to, like, I don't know, touch a marshmallow and some graham cracker up on that? I'm just wondering. I'm just asking because you know y'all thought it. Young men are making risky bets on crypto and politics and raking it in right now. Well, this is the time when you're young. It's to be risky with stuff like that. That's the time to do it. So, I don't know. Nissan has slashed U.S. production as bankruptcy looms. Damn, maybe don't be all dumb about EVs and you won't have to worry about that. We got a lot more on the way. Trump and DACA next. our partners over at Preborn, a great organization that helps women make the choice of life when they are faced with an unexpected or unplanned pregnancy. And when a woman hears When a mother hears her baby's heartbeat, sees the ultrasound, that baby's chance at life doubles. And so you can save a life this Christmas. It starts at just $28. And when you donate $28 to Preborn, you're supporting women and babies in need, providing vital care and resources. And you can even consider making a larger life-changing donation as well. You can save countless babies, maximize your end of year tax deduction. And right now they're doubling donations with a special matching grant. So your donation goes twice as far. And Preborn, they are a great, trustworthy organization. Your contributions, it's tax deductible. They have, you know, the top rating where it concerns charitable organizations. You can trust that your money is going exactly where they say that it's going. I mean, they got the proof is in the pudding. You can see they talk about and you can meet some of these women that receive these ultrasounds because they make a huge life changing decision. It's so easy to donate. So easy. You just dial pound or, you know, hashtag donation. 250 and you say the keyword baby that's it and you're donating uh to pre-born that simply you can also visit preborn.com slash dana to donate every contribution counts it doesn't matter how big doesn't matter how small you could be buying an ultrasound for a mother today you could be putting an ultrasound machine in a pre-born clinic tomorrow uh just dial pound 250 say the keyword baby you can also donate securely at preborn.com slash dana
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The dreamers are going to come later, and we have to do something about the dreamers because these are people that have been brought here. at a very young age, and many of these are middle-aged people now. They don't even speak the language of their country, and yes, we're going to do something about the dreamers. What does that mean? What are you going to do? I will work with the Democrats on a plan, and if we can come up with a plan, but the Democrats have made it very, very difficult to do anything. Republicans are very open to the dreamers. The dreamers, we're talking many years ago they were brought into this country, many years ago. Some of them are no longer young people, and In many cases, they become successful. They have great jobs. In some cases, they have small businesses. In some cases, they might have large businesses. And we're going to have to do something with them.
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You want them to be able to stay. That's what you're not addressing. If they're able to create businesses and make successes, why the hell could they not file for citizenship on top of it? Especially with the implementation of DACA, they were prevented from deportation for a good long period if they were doing so. So that doesn't answer the question. It doesn't solve the problem. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this second hour. That's that's what's being missed here. I mean, if you're able, no one's faulting people for being children and drug across the border against their own free will by their parents or whatever. But that's where that stops. They will you. There is culpability. When you as an adult, you're if you can create a business and you can go through the process of licensing and getting capital, doing all of this stuff, going to filling out paperwork to go to college, really doing anything. You sure as hell can start the process of becoming a legal citizen in this country. You absolutely can, especially when you were prevented from being deported by ICE because of the DACA allowances already. So that doesn't make any sense. It's still rewarding bad behavior. And that's not why people voted the way that they did, by the way. People did not vote for that. That's not what they voted for. So in absence of recognizing that if you are in the country illegally, you're brought there, brought here as a kid. And then you try to rectify that as you start a business and all that stuff. And you were protected under Barack Obama and Joe Biden. You were you were prevented from being able to deport you. With an absence of recognition of that, this is not a solution. This is just a Democrat talking point. That's what it is. And you can get mad about it if you want to. But I'm not the one saying the Democrat talking point. I'm pointing it out. That's not what we voted for. I did not vote for that. I did not vote for that. I don't want no bait and switch here. Do not George H.W. Bush me on this. I don't want a bait and switch. Don't want it. Oh, yeah. No, read my lips. No new taxes. Read my lips. We're going to deport everyone. No, we're not doing that. You do it. Follow through. And it is realistic. If you have not started the process, then that's an act of criminality. And at some point, you are responsible for your own actions, regardless of how you got here. You were allowed to stay here because the assumption, and this is one of the reasons why DACA was so dumb, the assumption was that you were going to be starting the process to be a citizen. And if you didn't do it, then that's on you. So why are we rewarding that? That's a basic question, is it not? I mean, doing something like this, you know, Reagan's and I and look, I like Reagan. Everybody likes Reagan. I can say things about the record of President Ronald Reagan that does not diminish my like of him. I like him. I mean, I disagree with his gun control. I mean, we got gun control to Reagan and we got one of the largest, what, three million some odd sweeping amnesty under Reagan. I don't want to see that repeated here. There has to be some kind of accountability. And that's really ultimately what it is. I don't know why that that caveat cannot be attached. Why Republicans are so scared. This sounds I mean, I'm aggravated because I already I feel like already here we are, not even in January. And we already got this coming in. Can I remind you that for all the talk, I think all the people saying that Republicans won this election by a landslide. These people have never paid attention in politics. They got they got a quick ascension because they say red meat things that everyone else says on TikTok or on X or wherever and. And they actually don't have any deep insight. They just kind of like regurgitate what other people say. They have not paid attention to turnout in elections. They have not paid attention to trends. All that stuff matters. We legit had the same turnout that we did in 2020. What made it seem like it was a massive turnout is that Democrats didn't come out to vote. I mean, they weren't going to go out and vote for Kamala Harris. They didn't vote for anybody. They didn't come out. It made it seem like it was this huge sweeping thing for us. And my telling you that means we didn't solve these problems. We didn't solve the problems. It was the same turnout in 2020. Not much different from 2016. So you still had a lot of Republicans that didn't vote. It just happened that more Democrats did not vote this time. And that's what contributed to the victory. Now, I'm not saying that to undermine or be mean, and I don't need people who don't pay attention to this stuff. I'm telling you this because do you want to keep risking it in the future? I mean, if there are people out there who value their ego and being able to flex on X more than they actually do about contributing to anything in meat space, then they can go ahead and they can sit and spin on my remarks there. But I'm telling you this because we've we haven't solved the problem and you're not going to solve the problem by weakening yourself on immigration after election. People voted for something very, very specific. I don't want to have another election where the victory is hinged upon Democrats not being enthused and not turning out. My gosh, we cannot do that. We've got to get our people out, and we have to have good policy that we can point to as reason for their continued support. That's what it's all about. So I don't like what I'm hearing from him on this because, again, it ignores the fact that you have people who are now grown, they know better, and they're choosing to still not follow the law anyway. How is that any different at that point? Because they're assuming the criminal offense. They're not inheriting a criminal offense. They were protected under previous DACA accommodations, and then they have thus far declined to start the process to become legal citizens. So at some point, the responsibility transfers to them because they are the ones who could do something about it, were expected to do something about it, and chose to not do something about it. Are we not the party of accountability? Because again, I just want to know if what I voted for on Tuesday is what I actually, or on November, is what I voted for or not. And I think it's a fair question to ask. I need everyone to remember, you don't owe your allegiance to anyone. Except yourself. You're the voter. You're the one who people should be pledging fealty to. Not the other way around. I guess some of us are just way too American to tolerate that kind of spin. So people need to deliver for you. You voted. You were the ones who had your characters impugned and you don't have millions of dollars to cry into. You had your characters impugned. You had your businesses closed. Your families targeted. You're the one who was owed. When you vote, you expect a return on the investment of that vote. Do not sell yourself short because you're worth more than that. So I don't know what this is. I will say I do like that he's outright refusing any kind of involvement in Syria. And we're going to talk about this more with our friend Stephen Yates here coming up next hour. Because it is the Syria issue. It's not something the United States needs to be involved in. I mean... Not at all. No reason as to why. But you have people like Lindsey Graham and others that are very, very excited. They think that, oh, here's something. But one of the other big points that I see being missed is the, I would say, the destabilization this has caused to Iran. I think after October 7th, Iran did not count on Israel fully eschewing all of the, I don't want to call it advice, lectures, I guess, that it was receiving from so many other nations about, oh, well, you can't react and you can't do this and you can't do that. They weren't expecting the kind of pushback they got against Hezbollah. They were not. And now, I mean, one of the reasons that Iran was able to supply Hezbollah so easy was because Syria under Assad allowed it. That's part of that Shiite crescent, the power struggle in the Muslim world. The Arab League had been working with negotiations, but they've been in a stalemate for, I don't know how long, in Syria, for quite a long time. And Israel overpowers Hezbollah, completely knocks Iran back, And now they've they've lost Syria and the cover that Syria provided. I'm just saying they now they have they used to have a direct path to their proxy militias. Now they don't. I mean, you had up until what the end of last month, you had Assad and Hezbollah were still controlling parts of Syria. Now they don't. And now the Iranians are left out just completely unsupported. Very interesting. And it's a very huge shift in the power dynamic in the Middle East. And this is something that Netanyahu had noted. Reuters has the story of how when he was making, he was in Golan Heights, and he was speaking about the collapse of the Assad regime. And he noted that, well, part of this was due to the defeat of Hezbollah in the north. And reemphasized that Israel will protect its borders. Iran did not, they gambled wrongly. They really, really underestimate. Can you imagine, again, back to the point that the question that I asked first hour, can you imagine if Israel had listened to Western leaders about what it should do? Oh, don't be so hard on Hezbollah. Well, there's a reason they were working with the Assad regime. There's no good choice in Syria. But the idea that the rebels coming in are somehow some sort of saints, they're terrorists. They're literal, actual terrorists. I mean, the only thing to kind of get excited about is that the mullahs in Iran are totally destabilized now. So when will the people of Iran take a second running at maybe another Arab Spring? Remember the first time that happened, they had the Iranian guard up there on the rooftops sniping people. We'll see. Hamas, and there's a change with Hamas too. So apparently, where's the story that I had? So apparently one of the things with Hamas is that they were getting notes and taking inventory, for the lack of a better way to put it, of the hostages that they have for to be able to use them in any kind of negotiation. And apparently some of the previous requirements that they had, including like Israel stopping all ceasing all responses, which they call hostilities, responses, etc. They're dropping some of those. Because I think they're realizing now how dire the situation is for them. I mean, they've been utterly decimated in the south. Hezbollah is decimated in the north. So now Hamas is demanding that, well, they need Israel to stop any offensive so that they can get information on these hostages. And they're trying to ascertain how many that they have in custody, etc., And I think Hamas is realizing, okay, it's over. It's already over. It's done for this part. And, and Israel pushing back so hard on Hezbollah, just that was like kicking out that table leg, that third leg out from underneath, uh, Assad in Syria and Iran. And now it's destabilized that they were trying that little crescent that they were trying to build is just all fallen down. We're going to talk more about that with Stephen Yates coming up. We also have the latest with the Daniel Penny verdict, because I don't know. I'm just wondering if it's going to be a peaceful night tonight in New York. 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SPEAKER 08 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 09 :
So when I first read that this Florida man had decorated his yard with the lamp from A Christmas Story, I thought, well, how big could it be? You'd be surprised. JP McCallick's suburban Jacksonville, Florida home. It's 20 feet tall. And it even includes a replica of Ralphie hugging the lamp wearing his pink bunny suit. It doesn't. Is it an inflatable? Because it really doesn't even look like it's an inflatable. But he goes, I like his response. He goes, quote, everyone's decorating their houses. And I thought it'd be fun to have like a neighborhood competition. And so he just decided to put that up. He also, I mean, it's crazy. He does not have what I would call traditional decorations. But that's funny. So he's got the giant leg lamp in his house. in his yard. I kind of like that though. I, I, I've been wanting to get a giant nativity and put in my yard, but I want a giant nativity, like a huge one. Some people in my household don't share my vision. I mean, no, but you know, if it's awkward, you know, I want like resin, right? We got to talk. We got to save this for later. Cause I got more. Hang on. I got more to get into. Um, let's see oh my gosh listen to this a florida man says delta airlines burned his golf bag and clubs worth nearly four thousand dollars oh and it looks real bad too i'm looking at the destruction of it he said that his golf bag was burned and everything was charred i don't even know how you burn because golf clubs are what are they metal aluminum yeah He was this is in October. He was on a flight from Atlanta. He was waiting for his luggage at the Southwest Florida International Airport. And then he said when he saw it come around again, he goes, wait, oh, my gosh, those are our those are my clubs. The freight guy said that they dragged it and it wore through the protective covering, started to spark, and then it caught everything on fire. So he's filed a claim with Delta. Delta initially denied the claim. And finally, they said that they're going to pay for it. But it was like, I mean, and it looks bad. How do you drag them and then spark? That's just negligence. That's just laziness and negligence. I don't know how else you attribute that. Look, I want to show you the photo. Look at that. That's crazy. That's what they look like. That's insane. Oh, my gosh. Let's see. Last but not least, a half-naked Florida man. I may have to share this tomorrow. High on meth, broke into a home, only to steal the resident's carpet cleaner. I'll share that one tomorrow. Third hour next. Welcome to the program. Top of our third hour. Dana Lash here with you this Monday. You can find us, the chat's at Rumble. You can find us also at X. And Channel 347, DirecTV, all kinds of good stuff. This, a few things. They've ID'd the killer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO. Luigi Mangione, an ex-Ivy League student. He is the person who's been identified. And he apparently liked quotes from the Unabomber online. I don't know what all that means. But, you know, if it means that he liked them or he shared them or whatever it was. So that's the – there's still – If they're releasing his name, though, then they must have him pretty much almost in custody, I would think, right? Because at first they didn't want to share anything about him because they didn't want to tip him off or make him feel as though he was... They were onto him. So this individual... I mean, he was able to elude that, which is crazy because it was in Manhattan of all the places in Manhattan. And he was able to elude that long. So that. Wow. So this individual and Luigi Mangione. is his name. And he apparently had an Ivy League education. He is, and this, of course, is about the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson. He's described as an anti-capitalist, I guess because of some of the stuff that was on his social media profile. He's 26 years old. He was taken into custody at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. So technically, he's not arrested yet. He's taken into custody. He was caught with a firearm, a silencer, four fake IDs with names that he used during his time in New York City and a manifesto, which railed against the U.S. health care industry, per the Post, and including its profits and motives and all this stuff. And apparently authorities said that he had maybe a reason to be angry at the insurance companies because he had apparently a sick relative or something like that. And he once worked in an assisted living facility when he was in high school still. But they have photos of him and they got him in the back of the cruiser. And he subscribed to climate change. He was a climate change believer. He was an anti-capitalist. And he liked, apparently he liked Ted Kaczynski. Unabomber quotes. I don't know. Just wild stuff. But he was found, what, five hours away from New York City in Altoona, Pennsylvania. It was like a five-hour drive. He apparently was smart. He went and had a very bougie upbringing in all boys school, $40,000 a year for his high school tuition. That's bougie. That's a college education. He was going to go into AI. And so it had and he just wild, just wild. And he was right there, Manhattan, when all this happened and did it and was able to go this far. So that's the latest with the health care. the UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting. We also had the verdict in the Daniel Penny case. Lorraine has a piece up at Substack where you can go and read all of the latest in that case, the verdict, because he's not guilty. And we'll see if there's going to be riots or anything like that. The father was out there saying, oh, I miss my son and all this. The father had abandoned him to foster care. Gave him up to the state. And apparently once when Jordan Neely was a teenager, he wanted to live with his father. And his father was trying to shake him down for his street performance money. And when Neely wouldn't give it to his father, Andre Zachary, then Zachary would not allow him to live with him. And that was it. I mean, just a mess. But I'm actually kind of surprised. I feel like I'm surprised because it was New York. And I couldn't be sure, even though I don't even think that Penny should have been charged, I couldn't be sure of a not guilty verdict, not because there was a question of Penny's innocence, but it's New York. I mean, we've seen some of the cases that have been coming out of New York, right? I mean, it's been pretty when we've seen it. So I wasn't quite sure how that was going to roll out. But Thankfully, there was some justice in that case. We also have Trump, who was in France at the reopening of the Notre Dame. Can we get... I have this audio. I'm pulling up my... This clip, Audio Soundbite 13, it's the handshake off, the handshake battle, as it's called, between Trump and Emmanuel Macron. Why do they shake hands like this with each other? I can't tell if they're, like, joking around or if Trump is trying to rip his arm off and beat him with it. I don't know. But Macron is shorter. And as you see in the video, he's shorter. And Trump grabs his hand like he's pulling him in. And... Like trying to rip his arm off. It's the wildest thing. But he was there also pictured sitting by Jill Biden, Ashley Biden at the reopening of this and Brigitte Macron, Emmanuel Macron. They were all there. We had video of it, but I don't think we're able to play it just yet. So moving on, the few other things that we've been hitting to with this is. The way that he was received, it's like a state visit. It's like he is the de facto president of the United States, even though he's president elect. Jill Biden did not get the same treatment that Donald Trump did. They didn't roll out the red carpet for Jill Biden. Jill Biden was there with Ashley Biden and they were just sort of treated as an it was like they were an afterthought. Trump is is president and it's all but a formality at this point. The inauguration is the formality. And it was very interesting to see. And as I made mention of, it's a very different Europe to a very different Europe. And you don't have some of the I think in the originally in the beginning when Trump was first elected. That he... They sort of thought he was... They made fun of him. They thought he was kind of... Even though he was a successful business person, it feels like they thought he was gauche, right? They thought he was kind of like, oh, you loud American, etc. And they kind of were snotty. They're not snotty about that anymore. They really seem to actually like him. It's the wildest. They seem to like him. And, I mean... It feels like there's representation for the United States on the world stage again, doesn't it? Biden was kind of like a non-entity, really. A few other things to hit. We got a lot of audio soundbites. I want to make sure that we get as well. In the U.K., Audio Somebody 32, you will be arrested and thrown in jail for posting criticism of mass immigration grooming gangs or offending trans people on social media. So the grooming gangs, like what they saw in Rotherham, where they had girls who were being preyed on by people who were coming into the country illegally. Listen to this because police actually visited someone because they didn't like what they posted on Facebook. Audio Somebody 32.
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The Times, 20 to 3, 1440, arresting you on suspicion of improper use of the electronic communications network... What? ...127 of the Communications Act, okay? So you do not have to say anything that may harm your defence if you do not mention one question, subject which you later are in court. Anything you do say may be given evidence. Do you understand that?
SPEAKER 15 :
So I'm actually being arrested?
SPEAKER 10 :
You're going to be arrested, okay? So you go up to the police station, they'll ask you, okay, this is in relation to some comments that you've made on a Facebook page.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, really? Oh, it's a Facebook crime, is it?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so we need to ask you some questions about that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Have you got anything in your pockets?
SPEAKER 13 :
I've got my keys, I've got... No, that's about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think he's... So, anyone who's been arrested, we can search them on section 32 and place them in their flats. Right. That's a dangerous item to find criminals.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, you said I was going to be arrested under some information. I'm going to be arrested for posting on Facebook.
SPEAKER 10 :
Some comments that are offensive, obscene, and people have made a complaint about that. Can you tell me what this comment was? We'll do that when we interview you.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. And so what, am I going to be locked up for the night?
SPEAKER 09 :
Hopefully not. I mean, that's insane. Yeah, that's a real thing. That's not the first time it happened. Remember the joke someone made on social media and the police went and visited her? The girl that they went and visited? And she said she made the remark to the police officer that you look like a lesbian. And she was a young autistic girl. And her grandmother actually was a lesbian. And the woman had a short haircut like her grandmother did. And they said it was hate speech and they were going to try to arrest her. She was like 13 or 14 years old. Remember that? That stemmed from someone had a comment online. This is the kind of stuff that they do. There's no free speech over there. You know, if we would have had that ministry of misinformation, it would have been the same. You would have had a knock on your door and they would have said, you violated a rule.
SPEAKER 02 :
You posted something offensive on Facebook. What? It's offensive. You can't post something that hurts people's feelings on Facebook. It's just not appropriate, mate. It's not.
SPEAKER 09 :
So that's the world that we live in. There's no freedom over there. None at all. None at all. So there's a, I'm glad that there's a change. Now, a few other things I want to make sure that we're hitting because we also have been talking about the issue with Syria. And we're going to dive into this a little more with Stephen Yates coming up at the bottom of the hour. And because you already have Republicans kind of seeing opportunities, people like Lindsey Graham, seeing some opportunities for involvement, United States involvement. And that is not where obviously the U.S. should be. And we're going to talk about the implications of all of that coming up.
SPEAKER 08 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 09 :
So maybe pot noodle wasn't the best way to smuggle pot into prison. What is a pot noodle? Okay, because I'm once again not able to open this stupid thing. I just would think that if you're smuggling stuff into prison... I mean, I've seen Mayor of Kingstown. You know, it's a great show. I don't know if you've seen it or not. It's a great show. But I just feel like maybe... I don't know. That's maybe not the best way to... To go about getting stuff into prison. I don't know. By the way, everything froze, so I have no access to anything right now. So tell me, Cain, what is a pot noodle?
SPEAKER 08 :
A pot noodle? I guess it's one of those things you throw into a pot and includes noodles. And if it's Asian, then it'd probably be like a hot pot type situation. But the bottom line is... Okay, we're back in business. Okay, the bottom line is they thought it was food. It was not food.
SPEAKER 09 :
Can you OD on the... I mean, if you listen to all the Reefer Madness people, you can OD on it.
SPEAKER 08 :
On pot noodle?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 09 :
The woman, Victoria Sked, she was hiding a lot of contraband on her person. MDMA, psychoactive substances, vials of steroids. Jeez. She was like a walking... you know, bodega. I was trying to say it like Joe Biden. It was really hard. But apparently it's like a huge operation and they bring outside stuff into the prison. And anyway, yeah, she she she's in trouble. And apparently her whole ring of people are in trouble. A chemical spill at an Anheuser-Busch brewery in California led to an evacuation, according to CBS News. This Los Angeles fire department, they said it was a fire involving hazardous materials, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not as interested in this. I'm not. Oh, I want this one. No, this is not real. Is this real? What? The pit diaper.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was looking. It has its own website. Look, the link is right there. I provided the link. It's apparently... Now, it looks like a comedy thing. It looks like something that you would see... How is it sold out?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't believe this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's sold out.
SPEAKER 09 :
So the pit diaper... is if you've been to a concert and and you you they said the scariest place isn't the mosh pit it's the bathroom and you don't have to brave that hellscape with a pit diaper powered by depend and it looks like a chanel quilted leather with like a lemmy kind of gold skull and this is not real look at that
SPEAKER 08 :
Wait a minute.
SPEAKER 09 :
But it's from the liquid death people.
SPEAKER 08 :
If you're hard enough to go to the mosh pit, but not the bathroom, there's something wrong with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Dude, have you been to, well, I know you've been to some of the die bar bathrooms.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I've been in mosh pits too.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm pretty sure that you can get like all the diseases in the world. Just that's where Wu flu came from.
SPEAKER 08 :
Guys have the least. What did you, what did you say?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I don't know. Let's move to the next headline. Slap therapy. An alternative healer got 10 years in prison for the death of a woman at a slap therapy workshop. I mean, how is that a thing? It's slapping therapy. It was a 71 year old diabetic woman who stopped taking insulin during one of his workshops. Was he like telling her he was going to slap the diabetes out of her? In the world, the technique has its roots in Chinese medicine, but critics say that it's stupid because it's dumb. It is dumb. It's so dumb. Stephen Yates is up next. Stick with us. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you at the bottom of this third hour. And, you know, you can listen to us across the country, Channel 347, DirecTV as well. Rumble is where the chat happens. And make sure you sign up for the newsletter over at Substack. So one of the other big stories, because we were covering the Notre Dame, we're covering the Daniel Penny trial, the UnitedHealthcare CEO assassination. There's a lot of stuff to discuss. And then obviously everything exploding with Syria, which is so... I'm trying not to tinfoil hat it, but it seems very convenient timing to me. Everything is sort of kept at a stalemate until now. Trump is going to be going into office in January. It's just odd. But if you're following, Bashar al-Assad is now apparently given... He's given asylum in Russia. And... Iran looks like one of the biggest losers in this. Russia also. And China? And there's always a China element. But we want to talk about this with our good friend Stephen Yates, who, as you know, worked in two presidential administrations, including previously for POTUS-elect back in 2016. He's also an expert at all things related to China, and he is a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, and you can find him at x.com. I finally got it without hesitating. Yates comps. Doesn't work if I point it out, though. He joins us via Skype. Stephen, always good to see you. I mean, obviously, this situation with Bashir, there's no good choices here. And I I'm I was listening to this audio soundbite of Joe Biden earlier. We played it earlier. where he said that we need to aid the new regime in Syria. And I'm thinking, you mean the terrorists that are coming through, right? Because you, I mean, they're different sides of the same coin, essentially. I mean, it's, correct me if I'm wrong on this, this is all about, you know, the Shiite, Persian Shiite versus the Sunni Muslims. And you have, and then as it relates to Assad, you have terrorists and Assad, who kind of is a terrorist. So there's no good, there are no good choices here.
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Yeah, it's real test of whether we've learned anything from Iraq, Afghanistan, Arab Spring, Obama's line in the sand. I mean, there are a lot of forces at play in Syria. It's a little bit of a devil's playground. Russia definitely had been exercising influence there. China is always supplying and seeking advantage in these kinds of things. Iran definitely is the sort of civilizational power trying to tip the balance in that region. We also have our NATO ally, Turkey, which is not an easy relationship to manage of itself right on the border and has a significant influence there too. Just a whole lot going on there. The last thing that we should be signing up for is some open-ended commitment to say that we're going to pick winners and craft democracy for rebels getting together on things. We might have some role in trying to stabilize things from getting out of control. But really, this is just a perfect example for the Trumpian adjustment to American foreign policy of Our friends in the region need to take the lead and let's see what we can do to play supporting cast so that things don't get too bad.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, it's it's who would we I mean, this reminds me so much. It seems very similar to me in some respects to Libya. Yes, very much with Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration looking as in the very beginning. I remember when all of that fell apart and, you know, the video came out of Gaddafi and and then, well, we have to support the new regime. What regime? The terrorists that are coming through? I mean, there's no other option. And, I mean, it's true that Syria was basically allowing Iran to have like a direct funnel to Hezbollah. I mean, that's one of the reasons that – which I thought was very good that they did when Israel pretty much decimated Hezbollah in the north. I mean, that – they were getting hit by all sides. And it kind of like, you know, it showed and Iran was having to respond. Hezbollah was having to deal with Israel, Russia's in Ukraine. It was really leaving Syria, you know, Assad utterly exposed. They really had no muscle of their own.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, I saw a pretty insulting comment by our current national security advisor, Jake Sullivan, suggesting that the Middle East was getting more stable because of Biden foreign policy. And I think an astute observer on X basically said, nope, the Middle East is getting more stable because Israel has acted on its own and ignored Biden foreign policy. And I think that's been the case on several cases.
SPEAKER 09 :
What would that have looked like had they not?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, no kidding. I mean, it's just this whole region, the provocative weakness of the Biden administration from the catastrophic Afghanistan events going forward, really, it's hard to imagine. what would have happened if our allies hadn't said, hey, you know, we've had enough and we're going to keep, we're going to take things in our own hands. Which is, you know, basically, it's not done for the right reason. We'd like it to be cooperative and good ideas from America that encourage this. But whether it's the Middle East, Europe, Asia, this is the way ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. Talking with our good friend Stephen Yates. I know that it's kind of like moot to bring this up now because Assad's now in a sally, I guess, of Russia. But for a hot minute when people didn't know if he was going to stay and try to hold on to power, I kept wondering, well... Is China going to maybe step into that role that Iran had occupied or that Russia had occupied? Russia was having to pull out assets for Ukraine and then Iran's having to deal with Israel and they're being rocked with Hezbollah. Was that ever a possibility? Because I know Syria is a Belt and Road country, but were they ever I don't know. I mean, is Syria that important to China?
SPEAKER 11 :
More opportunistically, but you correctly note that really with every different controversy that's popped up in recent years, especially during the Biden administration, China at some point tries to put forward their version of a peace plan or something that tries to show that the American-led Western way of life is on the decline and China's and their friends way of doing businesses on the rise I don't think they really had an opportunity this was just too fast moving for them but they've tried to put these things forward for Gaza for Russia Ukraine from different times So I'm sure they would have had something to say if this had dragged on. I'm kind of surprised that this cork was in the bottle for as long as it was. But then when it went, it went really fast.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it went incredibly fast. I mean, is the timing. Am I just too tinfoil hat with us? Because it just is very interesting, the timing here. I mean, Biden's on his way out. Trump's going to be in office and what a month.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, so I think a lot is happening in the world because people anticipate change ahead. It's really hard to tell where the serious situation is going to really go. There's a lot of volatile parts in that mix. But in general, a lot of bad actors around the world are looking to make whatever moves they can now to settle into what they hope is a new normal because they know that there's going to be a different approach and no patience when it comes to to President-elect Trump coming back and saying, this is what we want to have happen. And these are friends we're going to work with. And if you cross us and hurt us, he's not looking to nation build, but he'll use force when he needs to.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, dare I say that they looked happy even greeting him when he was there. I mean, it was it was how different was that meeting from like 2016 and previous ones?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, it was mind-blowing. Now, because we live in an internet age where people can meme and AI things, there was some true hilarity that happened in terms of Jill Biden and Donald Trump being together in Notre Dame. But it was really remarkable to see world leaders lining up And it's like they had springs in their seats. They popped up. They were all smiles. He didn't have to sort of manspread his way to the front of the line. He did. He just showed up and people willingly were wanting to engage him. You could just see a palpable hunger for, hey, this is a vigorous, real leader. And we might this is just a different Trump. This is a different, different time. And maybe the rest of the world is going to say we want to give this a second try.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, it's. It's nice to have someone there that's sentient and is aware of it. I know that Jill Biden and Ashley Biden were kind of there, but they just were sort of... I mean, it's not just me, right? They were kind of treated as afterthoughts. I mean, he's the president now, regardless of whether or not we've had the inauguration and he's sworn on the Bible. He's the president.
SPEAKER 11 :
This is such a different transition and such a different kind of environment, in part because Biden has been on the slow fade, really, from inauguration. But especially just the way things have broken. I think the best funny truth that came out of it was the Prince of England waiting to meet the real king when he came into the greeting room for Notre Dame. And so basically when you have the royal family of England looking to embrace Trump before he's even back in office, you know the world has changed a bit.
SPEAKER 09 :
Very much so. I wanted to ask you and kind of switch gears and look towards, obviously, China. Because China's, you know, I saw that one of the headlines where they were urging, you know, people in Syria to ensure safety of Chinese residents. And they kind of, you know, have been watching all of this unfold. You have Iran now that's I would say that they're entirely becoming destabilized because this is just thrown uncertainty on their regimes. You know, hold a grasp of power. You know, Russia's in the situation that it is in now. So desperate it couldn't even it couldn't even back up Assad in Syria. And now Trump is coming into office in January. How was China looking at this? I saw the one Taipei Times headline. China warships near Taiwan nearly double. But is that just them kind of continuing to save face? Because I cannot see them jumping on that landmine that it would be for themselves and doing something stupid right now with a more becoming conservative Europe, Trump in office and the big axis of evil there, you know, with Iran and Russia and everybody destabilized.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, just with the usual caveat that Xi Jinping has been a different kind of leader and I can't impose my rationality on him to try to predict what would go.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, he gets offended by Winnie the Pooh.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, you know, there's certain problems there, but it really would be ridiculous and really bad for China's own interest to try to do something now. They, I think, operate under the assumption that President Trump is a businessman and a dealmaker. he will be tough when he has to be tough, but they think they know that they can try to engage in a conversation with him where there was no conversation that he had with Joe Biden. And so I don't think they want to toss that option out the window at the start, but that's rationality. They have been playing with fire with lots of Ships and planes going into Taiwan space, lots of ratcheting up of pressure. They really don't need to do that, but they have done it anyway. They've done the same to the Philippines and Japan, where they're playing with fire. I just think that they have to take a step back. You're right about Iran, it's gonna be in a fundamentally different place. The money's gonna shrink back up again, and China can't bankroll them forever on stuff. some realism comes back into play and America will be better off for that.
SPEAKER 09 :
There you go. And we'll have like really good, awesome things to talk about going into the new year. I mean, I can't like trying to decide one day you'll join me and be like, Dana, I just can't believe it. Trying to decide if they're going to stop being communist, you know? And I mean, it may never happen, but you never know. I mean, weirder things have transpired.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's a beautiful thought and I will continue to entertain it.
SPEAKER 09 :
There you go. Steven Yates at Yates comms on X. Always good to see you, my friend. Thank you so much. Have a good week.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Dana.
SPEAKER 09 :
Take care.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
I really wish that we could just play Donny Hathaway's This Christmas and karaoke this last segment because this is such a great Christmas song, right? Oh, yeah. It's so good. This Christmas. It's so... I love this song. There's like certain Christmas songs that I have to play. I mean, yes, in addition to like, you know, the hymns that celebrate, you know, Jesus's birth. But this one by Donny Hathaway is one of them. And then the sleigh bells come in. If you're listening on the radio, you can listen to this. But the simulcast, you can't hear it. But here's where they kick in. There's where they kick in. It's some jingle bells. And then that rhythm settles in. And it's... I love that song. You know the other one that I really like? That apparently, I did not realize how much this divides you all. Everybody out there watching and listening, Wings' Wonderful Christmas Time. That is a great, great song that half of you hate. Every year we talk about this. I've never discussed this on the show. And I always get emails from people who are like, how can you like that song? That's the worst Christmas song ever. And they just they can't stand it. And then my own kids make fun of when Paul McCartney gets to the part in the song where he's like, you know, in the choir, the children in the choir. And my kids laugh at it because they think it sounds so like those kids suck. They're so bad. That's a great Christmas song too, right? But why does, like, I didn't know it was that divisive. Is that really? Kane, music guy. That divisive? What? I don't think so either. But do you know anyone that doesn't like it?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm sure there's somebody. Communists.
SPEAKER 09 :
Has to be. Baby It's Cold Outside is another one that you gotta play. Even more so now, right? Anything by Bing Crosby. Particularly White Christmas. Right? Gotta have. And the only version of Little Drummer Boy that will work for me is Dionne Warwick's. I don't know why. It is the only version that will work for me. Whitney's Aunt. Dionne Warwick doing Little Drummer Boy is so good. Her voice is so good. So I don't know. It's like it's I don't know. Everybody's got their own songs and stuff. Right. So we're going to start easing it in. Not I'm not going to like overwhelm you Hallmark style. We're going to start easing it. We got our Christmas. I'm in a snowstorm right now or snow globe. One of the two. But we got our we're all Christmas out. I don't know if anybody's even seen the thing on my desk. in front of my screen. You know what I think grenades are like? You can see the grenade kind of here, but not really. It's a Christmas bobble. There it is. It's a bobble. There you go. It's an American pine cone. Yeah, it's an American pine cone, the grenade. There it is. All right. So some of the other things, like I said, we've been we've been following all this stuff. There's going to be some pieces coming out for you. There's one of Daniel Penny right now that Lorraine has. It's up at Substack. And of course, you know, we're going to be watching the situation as it as it unfolds. This is not going to be something that you have any kind of resolution to literally anytime soon or in our lifetimes with Syria. But it's going to make for a very, very interesting start to the new year, is it not? All right. Today in stupidity came.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. This is Biden. Not only did he pledge to send aid to Syria, like he's pledged to send more money to other countries than he ever has. North Carolina or anybody here in the United States. But let's go ahead and play cut one. What was he saying here? Let's play a game. Play this.
SPEAKER 05 :
We will help stability, ensure stability in eastern Syria. protecting any personnel, our personnel, against any threats, and will remain our mission against ISIS will be maintained, including security of detention facilities where ISIS fighters are being held as prisoners.
SPEAKER 08 :
He's literally a lame duck president, but man, is he really.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now you can see why he probably didn't go to the Notre Dame's, Notre Dame's reopening. Kind of see why. All right, folks, that does it for us today. I'll be back behind the mic with you tomorrow. I'll be on Jesse Waters' program this evening, 7 p.m. Central. Have a great night.
