Join us for an insightful discussion on local governance and energy innovation. John Rush critiques the decision to disband Morrison’s police force and scrutinizes the charge train concept, sparking a vigorous debate on sustainable energy solutions. The episode also provides practical advice for winter home preparation, ensuring listeners are ready for potential plumbing and entryway issues. Tune in to understand the intricacies of these developments and how they impact your community.
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all joining us today. I didn't get a chance during the first hour because we had a lot going on. Question of the day, what are the names, this is from Friday, what are the names of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West's kids? North, Saint, Chicago, and Psalm. That is the answer to Friday's question of the day. Today's question of the day. What were the last four words in President Franklin Roosevelt's speech declaring war on Japan on December 8th, 1941? And Pearl Harbor Day, of course, was over the weekend. So answer that question on our Facebook page now. One thing I wanted to put out today, because it takes a little bit of time for Charlie to put this done. In the past, we've always done Christmas song requests on Christmas Day. So those of you that would like to hear your favorite Christmas song, and you guys all know, at least you should, those of you maybe that are new to our program and haven't listened since last Christmas, or started listening since last Christmas, I should say, I don't do Christmas songs all month long. We do them for about a week. And that's about it. And yes, we will do Christmas songs on Christmas Day. And in the past, we've even added a few little things in between some songs and so on. I'm not sure exactly this year how we're going to do that. Yeah, all music. You're not going to hear any reruns, me talking, nobody talking. It'll be a collection of songs. Now, what I'm saying is if you'd like to hear a particular song, please text me what your request is, and I will forward those on to Charlie307.com. 200-8222. Now, I get it. It's Christmas Day. A lot of people are busy doing things and so on. You may not even be able to listen that day, which we fully understand. But there are some that can and some that want to. And for those of you that will be and want to and you want to hear your song, please, you know, again, give me that message and send me what that song is, what you'd like to hear played. And we have got a – Charlie, is there really any Christmas songs we can't get a hold of? I mean, we pretty much have everything. Yeah, so you guys name it, we have it. Old, new, in between, you know, comedy stuff, you name it. You know, you tell us what it is. And as long as it meets FCC approval – we will play that song for you. So 307-200-8222. And I'll mention that each day, but it takes Charlie a little bit of time to get all that assembled. So I'll do that for this week and next, but the week of Christmas, we will not be asking any longer because we'll give Charlie a couple of days that way to get things put together. So again, for those of you that would like to have a particular Christmas song played that day, please let me All right, last hour, I kind of started talking about it, and then we had our special guest, then Joe called in from Jersey, and I didn't get a chance to get to it, but the town of Morrison, which I've talked about in the past, and I've talked in particular about the police department in Morrison. And it's well known, maybe if you're a transplant it's not, but for those of you that lived here for any length of time, you all know that you don't speed in the town of Morrison. or even around the town of Morrison. You have to even be careful traveling 285 or 470 around the town of Morrison because if you're going even a little bit over the speed limit, you're liable to get stopped and ticketed. Well, that's probably going to change. It was announced just this last week. that the Morrison Town Board is going to disband its police department. They've had some issues with the chiefs and so on. And frankly, somebody called in on Saturday and asked if I think this is because of, you know, Bandimere Speedway going away. Is this part of it? You know, I honestly don't know. I don't know all of the inner workings of the town and what went on in the meeting and so on. Maybe, although I think what it really comes down to is it's extremely expensive to run these. They've been trying to do it off of the ticketing end of things, which, frankly, is a recipe for disaster and typically doesn't work. And I think it's finally come to a head to where they finally figured out that, budgetarily speaking, this is not cost effective. And, by the way, there's lots of towns – In Colorado, whereby the local sheriff will handle all of those things the town needs. And this is what's going to happen here in Morrison is Jefferson County Sheriff has agreed to backfill. Now, I don't know if there'll be a charge for that or how that works. I'm not privy of all of that. But even if it is, I'm sure it is much less than what it's been taking for them to run an entire police department. So bottom line. That department is going away. Now, when is it going away? You know, I didn't do a lot of research to determine exactly when that's going to happen, but I think it's going to happen here in the not-too-distant future. So you could probably go and look that up on some of the town notes and so on and figure that out exactly. But, you know, am I disappointed in seeing that go away? No. In fact, I think this is a good thing for Morrison. At the end of the day, they'll end up with the police force through the sheriff's department that they actually need because, frankly, the police department in Morrison itself has been more worried about writing tickets, again, on 470 and 285 and places like that than they have actually policing the town. For those of you that don't know, the town of Morrison proper – I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say this. You could walk Main Street slowly and go from one end to the other in less than five minutes. And I'm not exaggerating. If you don't know how big the town is, look it up on a map. It's not very big. Now, I get it. The police department, you know, they usually would handle some things with, you know, red rocks and some of the surrounding areas and so on. But again, that'll get backfilled just fine. And at the end of the day, I believe this is actually a better use and a better role of government than what it's been in the past. A town as small as Morrison doesn't need a police force. And there's several of them around. I won't name names, but there's several of them around that have their own that don't need it. It's a waste of money. And typically all they're doing is hassling people driving through by writing tickets for very low infraction items, and they're collecting their revenue that way, and it's not a good look, in my opinion. So those of you that maybe are up in that area and or you've traveled through Morrison and you've had a ticket in the past, sounds like those days are numbered and you won't have to worry about that much longer. Now, that doesn't mean you're going to be willy-nilly and just speed around and the Sheriff's Department won't write you a ticket. They will as well, but will they be doing and policing what Morrison has done in the past? I highly doubt that. Hi-Fi Plumbing is next, folks. Make sure you're dialed in when it comes to your plumbing and electrical needs with our shorter daylight days and the fact that, hey, plumbing can be a big issue even in the middle of winter. Give Hi-Fi a call today. 877-WE-HI-5.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. There was an article I read in the Colorado Sun late last week that I wanted to talk about today because we talk a lot about transportation. I've even got some comments from Governor Polis on what he feels transportation for Colorado should look like. We talk a lot about energy and politics and all sorts of things. There was an article in the Colorado Sun. talking about these charge trains. And you're going to think to yourself, what is a charge train? Well, it's a train, locomotive, With these rail cars that are full of rechargeable batteries, large batteries that can be then packed back into the grid. Essentially, I've not seen them. By the way, I think this is probably the stupidest idea I think I've ever seen. And yes, I will say that. The idea being. These batteries will be charged somewhere down in the Pueblo area because they feel like there's more sunshine there. And I guess they can do whatever infrastructure they need to charge these batteries. They will then track these, you know, train these all the way to Denver, plug into our grid and help offset some of what it takes to run the grid. The track itself is being called the Transmission Line. Nice words, by the way, is all they're using here. And it's called Sun Train. And I guess NREL and some of the other folks out there think this is really a great deal. They're using a $10 million federal grant. Now, folks, this is the kind of stuff that Doge, Elon Musk, and Vivek Ramaswamy need to kill. This is absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Who in their right mind thinks that somehow, some way, you're going to save doing this? I'm speechless. I really, I have no words. They're going to basically take this charge train and charge it in Pueblo, drive it all the way to Denver's Cherokee Power Station, where they will then plug in. It will power 20,000 homes for an hour or 1,000 homes for a full day. Now, you tell me how, economically speaking, you can take this sun train from Pueblo charge it there, drive it all the way up here, the fuel, time, energy, etc. And by the way, all of these environmentalists think that these trains, I guess, just show up free, with nothing ever used to create them in the first place. And these battery packs, and, and, and, I mean, they act like this stuff just shows up, that you don't have to require any energy to any natural resources, you know, any rare earth metals to create these. They just act like they show up. And then once they show up, you pump energy, you know, you pump power into them. They store the power and then bring it up and stick it into the grid and it'll power a thousand homes for a day. What an absolute moronic idea. And, you know, I did think through this. So I didn't just, you know, off the cuff say, what a stupid idea. I thought to myself, OK, let's think about this for a minute. We've got a train. And by the way, I don't know how many of these batteries it actually takes to make this happen. It's a train, car-sized, iron phosphate battery. So each one of these trains can power 1,000 homes for a day. I don't know what they weigh. I don't know how many of these they can actually pull with one particular locomotive. How many locomotives do they need? I mean, if you look at some of the coal rail cars that are out there and how many engines required to pull those along, I mean, let's say you stacked 50 of these, and I don't know if they've even got 50 of these. Let's say they stacked 50 of them back and forth so you could actually do 5,000 homes or 50,000 homes, I should say. even then is it worth doing? I don't know. And what I'd like to know is, you know, these articles will say, well, yeah, this is a great way to, you know, offset power and do a cleaner. Where's the math? And none of these articles, is there ever any math done? For example, I get it. The rail is already there. But, you know, what's it take to create and dedicate a locomotive, the fuel that it takes to make that run back and forth? You know, the battery weight will be the same whether it's charged or empty. So you'll have the same fuel use up versus down, maybe a little bit less down because of the elevation. But you get my drift. I've always wanted to know the math when these proponents come up and say, oh, yeah, this is a great way for clean energy. Prove it. Show me. Show me whereby running this sun train from Pueblo to Denver is actually a savings at the end of the day, you know, environmentally and or monetarily, one or the other or both. If you're claiming it's both, I want to see it. And then I want to see if we take clean natural gas and we run a station from that and it produces enough power to run these same thousand homes for a day. What's the difference? I would almost guarantee you, I'd at least bet a $100 bill on it, that the clean natural gas power plant will do far more for far less dollars and investment and environmental damage than these trains running these batteries will. And I'm saying that just because I know how efficient our clean natural gas in Colorado is. We have an abundance of, and I would be hard-pressed to believe that it doesn't do more so than what these batteries will do on this train. This sun train, they call it. And again, as I said, you read through this article. Nowhere will you find the math of what I just explained. They just talk about how it will be more efficient at the end of the day, but nowhere in here do they talk about how the math equates to where this actually, in fact, is a savings when it's all said and done. I highly, highly, highly doubt there's any savings when it's all said and done. I would venture to guess that it's a—I'll go out on a limb here and say it's 10 to 1, 1 being clean natural gas, clean coal versus this. That would be my guess. John and Cheyenne, you're next.
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All right, well, let's start with something simple. How much fossil fuels or organic fuels, whatever you want to call it, is going to go into the construction of these batteries?
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A ton.
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Let's start there. Right.
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A ton.
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They never talk about that.
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They never talk about that, John. No, not at all. Never.
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And we've talked about that with EVs. How much fossil fuel goes into EVs to make them before they ever roll off the assembly line?
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Right.
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Right. So... That's that. Second, who owns those tracks?
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Oh, those, as you know, those are all run by the big railroads. In that case, it's either BSNF or Union, one of the two.
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Yeah, and what do you think they're going to charge to rent on that?
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They don't run on them for free. Let's just say that, John. Or they will charge you to haul the cars back and forth, one or the other.
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Right, or they'll charge you, if you want your own engine, they would charge you a lease for the track.
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That's right.
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All right, next question. Sorry, next question. What powers those trains? Diesel. Exactly. It's an electric... A lot of diesel, by the way. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of diesel. And if you've seen the smoke come off of the top of those... Yeah, how environmentally friendly is that, John?
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Because they're exempt from all emissions, by the way.
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Yeah, it's... There you go. Right there and then. Meanwhile... If you ever look up, if you want to look up some clean-burning coal mines, look up the WyoDak mines outside of Gillette, Wyoming. They're some of the cleanest power plants in the world. And the company who owns them would probably build another generating station if they just could get the permits to do it because they could sell the power cheaper than anywhere else. Because one of the things they did, I don't know if you've ever been up there, Instead of building the power plant and moving the coal to the power plant, they built the power plant at the coal mine, so they saved the cost of transporting the coal to the power plant. They used conveyor belts and big trucks to move it.
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What I see happening here, John, is the owner of SunTrain, and by the way, these will be solar-powered to charge the batteries as well. So what I look at on here is the chief technology officer, Chris Smith, basically talked about this. He's also the co-founder. Frankly, John, as I know how a lot of these things that get funded from government work, the only buddy that will benefit at the end of the day are the founders.
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It's a scam. It's another scam. That's right.
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It's a scam.
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Like you said before I called, this is what Doge needs to make go away. Yep.
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Get rid of the $10 million that's funding this.
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Right. Say, hey, if you think it's worth it and you think it's monetarily sound, go get some investors, sell some stock, and try to make it on your own. Yep. It's the same thing with the wind farm I'm looking at out my window. There would have not been one windmill one built if it wasn't for government subsidies. If they had to do it and make it profitable, they would never have one windmill built because they're not profitable.
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This is another one of these that, as you know, John, you've been in that industry before. If this were a viable solution, Xcel Energy would already be doing it.
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All right, I'll give you a prime example of the stupidity... Which goes for government money. They're building a huge solar farm south of Cheyenne, almost to the Colorado line, right?
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Yep.
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First hailstorm. Oh, geez. It's done.
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Yep.
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You've got to think about it, because if you look... Did you see those pictures from last year? Oh, yeah. Sure did. Of that Nebraska solar farm? Sure did. Same thing can happen here. That's right. Anywhere, you know, up and down a front range, you can get a hailstorm and destroy the whole thing. So... I don't know, John. Hopefully, what do we got, 35 more days until Trump?
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Yeah, hopefully he kills all sorts of things along these lines because the reality, again, as I said earlier, John, and I'm not a naysayer. You know me. I like technology. I like new things. I'm willing to try new things out. But at the end of the day, the first time I read this, and I read it a couple of different times, I'm thinking to myself, I mean, this is like selling snake oil. How in the world these guys got money to do this is beyond me. What a bunch of nonsense.
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Here's what you ought to look at. Who did they contribute to? What congressmen and senators did they give money to to help get this pushed through?
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Yeah, because, you know, I just know as a car guy even, John, when you start factoring all the things that you just mentioned, Andy texted and talked about, you know, the rare earth metal thing, which I talked about a little bit as well. I mean, you factor all of those things in. There's no way this thing's a win-win situation.
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It's a dog. It's insane. Yep, it is. John, you have a great rest of your day. Thanks, John. Appreciate you very much.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. Richard Rush joining us now. Okay, Richard, over the weekend, the Chiefs got lucky, literally lucky again.
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Well... They did get lucky. Now, granted, granted, if it wasn't for Jim Harbaugh, and no offense to Jim, I love him, love him as a coach. Hate that he's in our division, but love him as a coach. If he hadn't taken the idea that, oh, we can, you know, stop Patrick Mahomes on this, you know, on a, you know, potentially on a fourth down play or a third down play or whatever it might be, then he might have had better luck. But, yeah, you know, Patrick Mahomes is really hard to stop in that four-minute drill that, and then you go down and you get the luck of the goal posts. to help you secure the victory. I don't know what else there is to say other than we talked about it last week. Either the Chiefs are going to continue to get lucky, it's just going to be their year, and it's just going to happen, or it's going to run out and the Chiefs fans may want to hope that it runs out before they get to the playoffs and so they can get it out of the way, or maybe not. I guess I'm not sure yet. But, yeah, just frustrating as a Broncos fan, I'll tell you that.
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Yeah, okay, so how does this shake out? You know, the Bills, all of that. I mean, after the weekend, how is everything shaping up?
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Well, yeah, Bills lose to the Rams. I think they were looking ahead to their game next week. I believe they play the Lions. It's opened itself up to, well, there's a lot of possibilities. The only thing for sure is the Lions are in the playoffs. The Chiefs are in the playoffs. The Chiefs won the AFC West yesterday by winning. In theory, the Chiefs have to win, I think it's two of their last four games, and then no matter what else happens, they lock up the number one seed, which is a decent possibility. I believe they play the Browns, the Texans, someone else in there, and then they play the Broncos, Dad. So what this means to the Broncos is they've got to take care of business next week against the Chiefs. or the Chiefs, the Colts, if they win against there, then they've just got to win one of their remaining three games, and the Dolphins have to lose one of their games, and if they do that, the Broncos will be in the playoffs. So basically the Broncos have to play 500 football the rest of the way, and mind you, Dad, that very last game of the year against the Chiefs, the Chiefs could be playing for nothing. because they could have locked up the number one seat. And so for the Broncos, they've just got to keep doing what they're doing. They have several tough games coming up. Honestly, their next three are tough. They play the Colts. They then play at the Chargers, and then they get a long kind of week to prepare for the Bengals. Again, win two of those three, one Miami Dolphin loss, The Broncos are in the playoffs pretty much no matter what. That kind of clinches it for them. So they're on track, Dan. They just got to sort of finish it off, and I guess we'll see. It's the sign of a young team to maybe not do that, but I think Sean Payton will get them kind of going in the right direction. I think he'll get them going where they're supposed to be going, I guess you could say, and kind of focus in as they need to. So exciting there. The college football playoff, Dan, also came out. The first time it's 12 teams. That was introduced yesterday. And, well, it'll be, I don't know, it'll be interesting, Dad, because you've got the first four games are actually on campus, which has never happened before. And so you've got the possibility of some of these more, I think we talked about this a little bit last week too or the week before, some of these southern teams maybe playing in some colder weather. For example, Tennessee plays at Ohio State today. here in a few weeks? Well, Ohio in winter can get snow, and that will be interesting, right? I don't even think Tennessee's ever played in snow.
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Good point.
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And so some of these things there, you've got Indiana playing Notre Dame, SMU is playing Penn State, again, a team from Dallas, a team from Texas, playing against uh... yet even if they'd be playing up north in pennsylvania that could be interesting uh... and then i'm missing one of the one i think vocal clemson is going to texas so that that'll be another one for one but yeah for a first year of it that it'll be interesting to see how it's expanded i think the committee actually did a decent job uh... they left alabama out that kind of all the rage right now that's happening in the in the college football world is all the alabama fans are mad because their team was left out but what i would say the same thing i would say the buff fans which is, you know, if you do your job and you win your games, you don't have this issue. You don't have anything to complain about.
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True. Good point. Yeah, which in both cases they didn't do enough of.
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You are correct, and that's ultimately what it comes down to. You know, again, we're talking about a lot of things, right? We talked about elections and all sorts of things, right? If you just take care of yourself, you do your job, and you win, then you don't really have anyone else to point to except for yourself. And, you know, like you started out this segment, In reference to the Chiefs, another situation where they do their job, as painful as it is sometimes, they do their job and they kind of go from there. So it'll be, like I said, interesting upcoming weeks. Normally you don't have college football going this deep, to be honest with you, or this late in the season, or you do, but not with the type of games. Correct. So again, first year of this new 12-team playoff, a lot of people think it's going to expand to 16 teams at some point in time. We'll see. I still think it may not be that much or may even get larger than that. And then the Buffs, they play in the Alamo Bowl, which is a letdown, Dad, because it's not the college football playoff like we talked about. However, it is basically the highest bowl you can get to without being in the college football playoff. Basically, they get the first pick. Now, granted, there's some tie-ins that they have to group in. Basically, it had to be an old Pac-12 school and a big 12 school. But I'm just going to show you. CU is a draw. And one thing, Daddy, a lot of people have given Deion and his grief for a lot of different things he's done. One thing he said, because this has been a trend over the past few years, is the top players... not playing in bowl games, right, for fear of injury.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, right, right.
SPEAKER 05 :
All those different things. And it actually happened to Deion's alma mater last year, or one of his alma maters, with Florida State. They had a bunch of guys. They weren't in the college football playoff. It was a big deal. They opted out of the game. Well, Deion kind of sort of hinted at that wasn't going to be his by saying, nope, all of his guys are going to play. And I think that he's, you know, we've talked about this a little bit, where he's more old school than I think people like to give him credit for. Right. And this is one of the ways where he's not letting his players get off. To just say, hey, you guys are essentially going to come and finish what you started. Now, right, wrong, or otherwise, does this game mean anything? Well, it means something to the fans, Dad, because at CU, the last two bowl games we played had been the Alamo Bowl. And we have gotten destroyed each time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
Slaughtered. Back in, I think, yeah, I think 2014, 2016, somewhere around there, we got killed. And then we played, I can't remember who we played before then, maybe Clemson. And we got destroyed there, too. So it's just, it hasn't been a great situation. Maybe it was Texas we played. It hasn't been a great situation. So for CU, Dad, this is our first 10-win season in a number of years if we win this bowl game. It's an opportunity to go to a bowl game, to actually compete. And then, honestly, for CU fans, it's the last time to see Shador and Travis Hunter. Who should... Be the likely Heisman winner, Dad.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's one thing I was going to ask you about, too, before we close out this particular segment on the whole Heisman end of things. Not that it's everything, but it is a lot. And to have a player from your school, your team, win that award, that's a very high honor. And as you know, it doesn't come that often, although I feel, unfortunately, there's a lot of politics involved.
SPEAKER 05 :
There's a lot of politics. Well, and one thing that we've got going for us is Deion has played that well, and he has gotten the CU team to play it well because they have marketed our nominee, who is Travis Hunter, extremely well, and they've gotten him a lot of publicity, and he's gone on shows, and he's done a lot of things. And here's the deal with that. There's really two top guys, right? There's Travis Hunter, and then there's the kid for the running back for Boise State, Ashley Gentry, who, you know, he's right up there in, you know, all-time rushing yardage. He's got a the ability to, or potential to pass Barry Sanders, depending on how he does in his college football game, although you can argue about that because he's had more games to do it, blah, blah, blah. Here's what I will say to this. There's going to be other great running backs that come after Ashton Genting. That's nothing, that's not a slide against him.
SPEAKER 16 :
And really quick, too, you're also not knocking the Mountain West Conference, but you're not in, you know, the SEC or the Big 12, or am I wrong in saying that?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, well, you're 100% correct. I watched him on Friday, and I think he's a good player. I think he'll actually compete well.
SPEAKER 16 :
I did too, but he's not playing against the same players that Hunter is.
SPEAKER 05 :
You are correct, and there's a difference. And the difference is Travis Hunter is arguably the top receiver and top defensive back, even though he wasn't even nominated for the top defensive back award, which is just a whole other conversation. It's crazy that, real quick on that, the top defensive back in the nation award is Jim Thorpe, right? Well, what do we know Jim Thorpe for? Playing multiple positions, right? Both ways. That's what Jim Thorpe did. And the fact that Travis Hunter, who does that, wasn't nominated, just crazy. But he really is arguably the best corner and best receiver in college football this year. Best overall player, most outstanding. There's just never really been someone who does it as well as he does. on both sides of the ball, and he does it not even sparingly. He does it all game. He really doesn't take a playoff. It's truly astounding. And so, again, there's no slight against Ashton Gentry. I think he's a very willing or not willing, deserving runner-up, and I think in any other year he probably would have won it. However, there's been other group of five running backs that have done really, really well. Several guys from San Diego State who are in, I think, the top five all-time or top ten of individual rushing seasons. And I think maybe they made it to the ceremony, but they didn't win it. And so ultimately, I think Travis should do it. And back to what I was saying, CU's done a really good job marketing. We'll know the finalists here in about an hour, which obviously he will be one of them. And then we'll know who ends up winning it this Saturday after the Army-Navy game.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. As a part of what we do for Saturdays on Drive Radio, we do a car review almost every week, Richard. We do as much as we can. And before we get into that really quick, for those of you listening, a lot of you will be out there looking at end of the year, businesses, taxes, all sorts of things. Great time to buy a car, by the way. There's lots of inventory, some pretty good deals out there. But, Richard, you recently drove a 2025 Genesis GV80. 3.5 turbo prestige all-wheel drive.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so this is kind of a mouthful, Dad, but yeah, 2025 GV80. There's several different trim levels to choose from, as you know and as some of the listeners know. Genesis sort of does it kind of. You sort of buy the trim level, right? There's not necessarily additional add-ons and stuff you do. They're definitely available, but you kind of buy the trim level you want. And you can get this car, Dad, for less than $60,000 if you want to opt for that a little bit smaller engine, the four-cylinder turbocharged, which still works great. Or you can kind of go to the higher end, which is where we were at, which is the V6, twin-turbo V6, I should say, which worked really, really well. Fuel economy, 16 and 22 for an average of 19. And, Dad, the one we had is right up there. This class of car, this not extra-large SUV, but I'm still going to call it a large SUV, right? This larger size SUV class SUV. that doesn't necessarily have the third row, but it's got plenty of room in the second row, is becoming a very, very competitive class, especially in the luxury segment, which is where this Genesis is meant to be. And at $81,000, you would expect that. And some of you listeners are going, Richard and John, $81,000. What I would say, folks, is look at some other competitors. And for a car similarly equipped, you're going to be $10,000, even $20,000 higher for a very similarly equipped car. So what has Genesis done, Dad? Well, they introduced this car, let me see here, back in 2021, kind of the first GV80 generation. So this year, not a whole lot's changed. Some subtle exterior changes, enhancements, whatever you want to say it. And the instrument cluster is now one nice big 27-inch display. It's got a lot of the creature comforts that you would expect on a vehicle of this price point in size. Massaging front seats, heated and cooled. You've got heated seats in the back. I think you've even got cooled seats in the second row. This one, Dad, was outfitted not with the third row seats, But sort of with the, I'm going to call it, and I'm probably going to butcher it, so my apologies, Genesis. I'm going to call it the chauffeur's second row. And what I mean by that is basically the second row is more of a... Well, it's more of a you can have it as a chauffeur car, right? If you're an executive, you want someone to drive you around, it's got the ability to do that because the second row passenger can actually move forward the front passenger seat if they desire, give them some more leg room. They can actually recline those seats a little bit. It's got your color-changing interior. It's got a fragrance dispenser in it. I could go on and on, Dad, about the list of technology in it. But Genesis has done that, and you see this badge, and honestly, Dad, you see this car, and I'll say it, even at $80,000, you think this car's worth a lot more money than that. And they've done a phenomenal job at it. They really have some cool tech, Dad, and you can sort of speak to this as far as suspension-wise goes to where it actually has cameras. that search the road in front of you and find, basically, find potholes, whatever it might be, and essentially prepare the suspension for said environment, right, that it's getting ready to go over. So, yeah, so maybe the right side is going to go over a bump. Well, it can actually anticipate that, have the suspension system plan for that just on the right side and keep you going as smoothly as you can. And I will say this, Dad. Driving down the road in this car, it is smooth, it is quiet. And it's just something that you get in this car and you feel luxurious. It's even got this mood, Dad, or this mode where it sets the mood or kind of lets you be in this zen mode where you can sit in the car and it can massage you and it plays this relaxing music. So you can just kind of veg out for a second, to be honest with you. So it's a really cool vehicle. You've driven some Genesis over the years, and they've honestly kind of – they tend to impress every time you get in them, don't they? Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know, Genesis is a brand that for a lot of folks, and they're becoming more and more popular because you get a lot of car for the money, and I've said it numerous times, you know, you're going to go spend in a lot of cases, you know, depending upon the model of Genesis and so on and what you're competing against, but anywhere from... 20 to 50 grand more to go find another like luxury vehicle, like the one you're, you're looking at on the Genesis side. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that that's how much of a better value they are than some of the other vehicles that are on the road. And for those that are listening, yes, Hyundai is the parent company, but there is no other Hyundai Kia that matches what Genesis is doing. It literally is its own line. Uh, It's a lot like what some of the other luxury car makers do that are out there as well. So, no, it is not like the other sister companies that are there underneath the Hyundai brand or the Hyundai label, if you would. Richard, Genesis is its own deal, if you would, and they build a very nice luxury car for a very great value.
SPEAKER 05 :
They do. And the other thing is, as we've talked about this before, they're willing to stand behind it in terms of their warranty, right? Right. unlimited mile anti-perforation warranty this is on top of some complimentary rate maintenance and some service valet that that you get by buying the genesis which like you said is in is in direct competition to some of the other manufacturers right some of the other luxury brands right that are kind of doing some of that so overall that i i was i was pleased with it like you say business is getting to the end of the year i don't know if it's necessarily you know fits your requirements, whatever you're looking to do. But I would strongly encourage you, if you're looking for a large luxury SUV or whatever you want to refer to it as, right, enough for four full-size adults without any issues at all, I would encourage folks, head to your local Genesis dealer, test drive it, get out and experience this car. And if it's been a while since you have, I really encourage you to do that because I think you'll be really happy. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, Richard, with that, I will let you go really quick, though, before I do. It looks like the billionaire Fiat Air has assumed control of Stellantis after the last CEO left. It'll be interesting to see what happens because right now Stellantis is definitely on the struggle bus.
SPEAKER 05 :
They definitely need a little bit of aid, some new ideas, and, well, a new direction, let's just say. So we'll be watching.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, folks, we are back next hour. Kurt Rogers, of course, will join us at 5 o'clock. We'll talk about mortgages and what's happening as we head into the holiday season and even the debt sides of things and what you need to be careful of as we head down this path if you're thinking about doing something. We'll talk to him on the last jobs report, whether that's actually the real numbers or not when we come back at 5 o'clock as well. So guys, hang tight. Hour number three is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
I'm a rich guy
Join host John Rush as he welcomes Mike Goldstein, the creative mind behind the captivating children's book series 'The Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew.' Discover the inspiration rooted in bedtime stories shared with his grandson that led to the creation of these timeless adventures. Dive into a discussion about the significance of children's literacy and how Mike's books aim to instill a love for reading through a unique blend of fantasy and factual knowledge. As the holiday season approaches, Mike shares exciting news about book giveaways and special discounts, making 'The Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew' the perfect family gift. Listen in to learn how these stories not only entertain but also serve as a valuable educational tool, encouraging young readers to explore history, geography, and more, through the eyes of a curious boy and his immortal canine companion. With discussions on literacy challenges faced by today’s youth, this episode sheds light on the essential role of parental involvement in reading. Tune in for an engaging conversation that promises to inspire both children and adults to delve into the magical world of books.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right. Happy Monday, everybody. Welcome. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all. Hope you had a great, fantastic weekend. We got two weeks prior to Christmas now, or Christmas week, I should say. I know that it's not actually two weeks from Christmas. It's just a tad over that. But most people will be doing things the week of the 25th of Christmas. and in preparation for that, we've got a great new partner to Rush to Reason. I talked about him a little bit last week, but Mike is with us today. Mike Goldstein, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm doing fine. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 13 :
Joy to have you. I met Mike last week, and for those of you listening, you've heard some of the commercials running for the, we'll call them the kids' books, but it's The Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew, and you've heard the commercials running now for a little over a week plus now, but Mike, you're the author of...
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
So, as I always say when we first get going here, why? What got this going in the first place?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it started with stories that I told my grandson. I've always been a storyteller, and I told my kids stories. And then when my grandson moved away, he would call me every night for a poppy story.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's what he called me.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I would make up stories for him, and we would do it every night. And his favorite stories were the adventures of Jimmy and Andrew. And my former wife and my daughter asked, you know, begged me to put these in writing. And so I finally did. And the first book in the series is American Stonehenge, which is the one you've been promoting.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it's the first book in this particular series of the adventures of Jimmy and Andrew.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, and for those of you listening, first of all, I have a book that Mike gave me that I actually have in hand. And this is not – and Mike will talk about this – but this is not your typical children's book. I'll just say that straight up. I actually have a copy. This is, of course, as Mike just said, book one. And what I will tell you is this is a book that – will last you a lifetime and probably go through several different generations if you so choose, if you'll keep it that long. The quality of the book is such that you could easily do that, Mike, and hopefully people will do that. That's the idea, and we'll get into more of why you want folks to actually do this in the first place. Well, before we get going, though, because I want to make sure we have time to do this. We are going to give some of these books away today. So for those of you that have kids or grandkids and you want to be involved in this, and I'm just going to tell you straight up, this is one of those books that, again, you will keep not just for you, but you will have it around for generations to come. So, Mike, how many are we giving away? I think we're giving five books away. Okay, five books. So the way this is going to work is five of you need to call in, first five, Not five of you, but the first five call in 303-477-5600. I can't do this on the text line like I normally would be able to do because we need your name, your address. We're going to get these things shipped out to you. So call in. We've got somebody here that will be able to answer those calls. But 303-477-5600. We're going to be giving five of these books away. Normally, Mike, what do these sell for? $24.95. Okay, so $24.95 is what these will normally sell for, which, again, we're going to keep talking about that throughout because you guys are going to hear more, not only from Mike and the commercials that we run daily, but we'll be talking to Mike on an ongoing basis as well. But Mike, besides... You telling these stories to grandkids and so on, then wanting to put that into print format, there's another purpose behind the book, which is to really get families and kids especially to read, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 13 :
So talk about that part of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's very... very dear to me, which is children's literacy.
SPEAKER 13 :
Really quick, I'm going to stop for a moment, because those of you listening, you've heard me interview in the last month or so individuals, experts in the education end of things, talking about how our continual grade scores keep dropping and dropping and dropping to where high school seniors now that are graduating high school in a lot of cases cannot read. So, Mike, this is a big deal.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not only can they not read, but they don't seem to know much about subjects like history or geography.
SPEAKER 13 :
Great point.
SPEAKER 03 :
Or things that we knew as kids.
SPEAKER 13 :
States, where things are located.
SPEAKER 03 :
On and on we go, right? Exactly. And kids can't even write Kersauf anymore. Right. Write it or read it. No, no, not at all.
SPEAKER 13 :
So part of the book is, yeah, you want to tell stories. You want this to be an heirloom. People can pass it down. But your real goal is to get kids to read, right? Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the book, in doing that, I wanted to write a fantasy, a thought-provoking fantasy, but which was also educational. So all the subjects discussed in the book are historically and factually accurate, down to the smallest detail.
SPEAKER 13 :
So even though they're sort of fantasy-driven, you're also putting a lot of factual things, references, everything. I know because you told me everything's true. It can be proven in the book and so on. So the reality is you're mixing some fantasy along with some reality. Exactly. Am I saying that correctly? Exactly. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
In other words, I mean, people will not find things in the book that are not accurate. You'll find fantasy, different places, but all the things discussed. So I wanted to discuss all different types of subjects. History was a big one. Because once we talk about what the book's about, people will see why the historical part of it was so important.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, let me check just one second. Charlie, how many have we given away to this point? Okay. Okay, so we have three more to have gone. So we've got three more to give away. Those of you, yeah, and thank you, Charlie, for the reminder. Those of you that may be listening to this at 6 o'clock, sorry. They will be gone by 6 o'clock because there's nobody here to take your information. Now, what I will tell you, though, is even if you're listening at 6 o'clock and you want to get one of these books as a Christmas gift, which you definitely can do, Mike, what's the website they should go to to do that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Jimmyandandrew.com.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, that's simple, guys. Jimmy, and it's J-I-M-M-Y. So Jimmy and Andrew.
SPEAKER 03 :
A-N-D and then Andrew.
SPEAKER 13 :
There you go, .com. So if you guys are listening at 6, yes, thank you, Charlie, for the reminder. You cannot call in and get a free book. We've got three more of these we can give away right now. This is 310 in the afternoon. So those of you listening, 303-477-5600, and we'll get you a book.
SPEAKER 03 :
But anybody calling in, if you use the promo code KLZ, you get 10% off.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And what number do they need to call to do that if they want to call in? Same one here?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no. When you go to the website. I'm sorry. Did I say call in? No, no. When you go to the website and you get to the shop page, you type in the promo code, which is the call letters, KLZ, and you get an extra 10% on top of the free shipping and handling.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which I will be talking about more again as we go down. weeks ahead especially as we wind down here to christmas folks you'll hear me talking about this daily so again if you call in right now i think we'll have a couple more yet to give away somebody's calling in as we speak so we have two more left 303-477 sorry one more left 303-477-5600 give us a call we'll get a book in your hands and again appreciate all you calling by the way and those of you that have listened to me for any length of time Okay, we're down to the last one. So those of you that are calling in, you may not be able to get a book, so you can stop calling now. And I know there's a delay, but hang tight. And again, if you call in and we've given them away and you still want to get a book, go to the website. Again, Mike, what is it?
SPEAKER 03 :
www.jimmyandandrew.com.
SPEAKER 13 :
Perfect. So you guys can get a nice discount there, 10% off, use KLZ. What I was going to say, though, you guys all know me, and the fact that I am really big on, especially now with what's happening inside of the next administration, what they're talking about in regards to cost-cutting, the Department of Education, and so on. But the reality is, aside from all of that, so putting all of that aside, the reality is, Unless you're homeschooling your kids or you are sending your kids to some sort of a private school, the chances of them learning to read through the other system, through the public school system, is going to be slim. So the point, Mike, is if you really want your kids to learn how to read, you're going to have to take it upon yourself to do so. And this is a great tool in doing that is my point.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly, in that you want to give kids something that they really want to read, something that they're interested in.
SPEAKER 13 :
In other words, so they're just not forced to do it? They're actually encouraged and they want to know what's going on? Exactly. There you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the easiest way to do that is for parents to start reading to their kids.
SPEAKER 13 :
One thing, Mike, I didn't mention, and I've got it in front of me, but I didn't look. How many pages are in this book?
SPEAKER 1 :
250.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Again, for all of you listening, this isn't your typical, you know, cardboard front and back, you know, Dr. Seuss where it's about 15 pages long. That's not what this is. This is like, I think, Mike, the way I would describe it would be, taking something that's more in a story-slash-novel form, yet making it understandable for kids. I want you to talk about the illustrations that are in here as well, because that's very key to how the book actually works when you're reading it to the kids. Point being, this isn't the typical cardboard front-and-back 20-page kids' book.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it's a novel. There you go. It's for basically middle grade 9 to 99.
SPEAKER 13 :
I told you, Mike, about some of my kids. I had one that was reading at a very, very early age that at age five or six would have grabbed this and would have done just fine. So for those of you, if you've got younger kids, maybe you've homeschooled them or you've worked with them or they've got older siblings that have helped them learn how to read, This thing is illustrated to the point where, and by the way, you parents will enjoy reading this as well, but the point being, Mike, if you're on that grade level where you can understand what's going on historically and so on, anybody could read this. Yes. Is that a good way to say that? Yes. Talk about the illustrations.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Well, maybe I should tell a little bit about the book first. Go ahead. What the story is. Absolutely. Go ahead. It's about a boy. You mean Andrew. So it's about a boy by the name of Jimmy. who for as long as he can remember has wanted a dog. And finally, on his ninth birthday, his parents allow him to go to the Humane Society and adopt a dog. And it turns out that the dog he gets can speak with him telepathically. And he finds out that the dog is immortal, born in Egypt over 3,000 years ago, and has been roaming the earth ever since, trying to find others of his kind, find his own origins. And not until he meets Jimmy does he begin to discover clues to his elusive origins. Gotcha. So that's the basic book. So that's where the history side of things comes into play. And so once he's adopted, now the adventures begin. Got it. And this first book... American Stonehenge about their first big adventure is Jimmy's archaeologist parents take him and his new canine companion, Andrew, with them to a find in the forests of northern Washington, northwest, to where a find of the exact duplicate of Stonehenge in England. And it's shrouded in mystery that Jimmy and Andrew must unravel. Sure. Very cool. And what's interesting about this series itself and this book and the whole series is that you go back. The reader, it's taken back and forth between the current episode and other episodes in Andrew's long life since he's lived over 3,000 years. And it ties in. There's where the historical comes in. You know, where he's been out, it ties in now. Yeah. And in writing these series, it's almost to me become like these – somehow it's like another universe that they exist in. It's very much like our – there's nothing that you can find that this isn't the way – these are factual things. But it's in an area of, like I said – You've tied it all together. Tied it all together.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so the pictures, because it's illustrated as well for all of you listening. It's not just words. It's illustrated as well. But, Mike, you did the illustrations differently than a typical book.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. I mean, one of the things I wanted to do, you've got to understand, this becoming a book that parents can read to their kids is a big part of it too. And so the book itself, the physical book, we've spent a lot of time in designing so that that could happen. Okay. And the illustrations are a very big part of it. I wanted the book to have like a graphic novel quality.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which it does.
SPEAKER 03 :
And so we did illustrations. The book is big, first of all. It's 7 1⁄2 by 10 inches. Thank you for saying that, by the way. I never mentioned that, so thank you. Yeah, it's a big book. That's right. And the illustrations are a full page. Colored. Colored, full-colored, hand-painted illustrations of the major scene of every chapter. And one of the things that I wanted to do because I always hated the fact that the illustrations in books were at the beginning of a chapter. I didn't like that because, first of all… You may give something away, right? Yeah, if it's exciting and you give something in. Also, if you get to the scene and you have to flip back to look at it. Got it. So we put the illustrations across from the scene. So it's on the opposite side of the page. So as the reader is reading it, he can look and see, he or she can look and see the actual scene that's exactly depicted. Okay. Down to the smallest detail. Got it. And so the book is available in all the electronic copies, but we always recommend that you get the hard copy. That's because one of the things you can't do in electronic copy is see it that way. You're going up and down. You can't see it right across like that. So this way, the whole point is that the person's got it and they can look out there and see the scene or the kids can be looking at it while the parent or while the teacher or the homeschooler is reading the book. Okay. Makes total sense. Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Again, for those of you listening, The Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew, that is the title of the book. This is book one, American Stonehenge. And we talked about, Mike did about the story. And we don't want to give too much of that away because we want you to get the book. and read it. But you're going to hear me talking more about this. You'll hear some commercials running. This is, and I'll just tell you straight up, this is a great gift to buy for Christmas, whether it be for yourself to read to your own kids, whether you're a grandparent and you want to get it for your kids and grandkids, whether you want to get it for your kids. You decide how you want to do this, but this would be a fabulous family gift for a very nominal price.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Best way for me to say it.
SPEAKER 03 :
And they can go up on our website and see... A four-chapter free peer review. The first four chapters in print replica. So you'll see exactly what it looks, except you won't see it on the opposite side of the page. Right. But you'll see everything. And you'll see it in such a way that it just kind of pops out at you. And you think, wow, I'd like to see that in the book. There you go. Well, what we did is we had a special coding put on all the pages. that makes the illustrations and the copy just pop right out.
SPEAKER 13 :
Folks, this is a beautiful book. You guys know me. I wouldn't lie to you, wouldn't tell you. If I didn't think it was, I wouldn't say so. It is. Again, this is one of those books that you will cherish, you will keep around, and you will pass it down from child to child or generation to generation. And I mean that sincerely. It's that high quality. It's a great deal. You will not go wrong buying this book for your family or your grandkids or even, you know, Nieces, nephews, maybe somebody that you know would benefit from having it. My point is, it's a great gift. We're two weeks from Christmas. Mike, what's kind of, in closing here, what's kind of the latest people need to get their order and to make sure they get it by Christmas?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well... Pretty soon. Within a week, probably. Locally, it's going to get there faster than if it was somewhere else. Okay. So you figure about it. The post office says a week to 10 days for the way we're shipping it. Okay. But it'll be faster. Okay. Yeah, it'll be a little bit faster.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so those of you listening, again, jimmyandandrew.com. We'll have links up, by the way, all over our website, klzradio.com. Don't forget, you get 10% off right now. That's our promo code. Just type in KLZ when you go to order the book. Mike, it's a joy. I've enjoyed having you. Thank you for the book. And we gave, I already know, we gave all those books away in that amount of time. So thank you for doing that as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's wonderful. Terrific. And thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right. You just heard me interview Mike Goldstein, author of American Stonehenge. It's Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew. You just heard us talk about it a moment ago. These are the commercials you're going to be hearing moving forward. And as I said a few minutes ago, that's a fabulous gift to get for Christmas. And I cannot say that enough. And then, of course, once we get through the holidays, it'll just be a good thing to have around for. your own family, and those that you want to know how to read, you want to learn how to read, this is a great tool in that particular area. So again, American Stonehenge, the author is Mike Goldstein, and we appreciated him joining us a moment ago.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
Now back to John Rush. All right, we are back. Thank you all for listening, by the way. I appreciate it. And again, thanks to Mike for coming in and being with us. And as you guys probably could already figure out, he's somebody local. We don't have a ton of local authors that we end up interviewing on our program. I interview authors from literally all over the country, in some cases all over the world. It's unique to have somebody in our own backyard, but Mike is. Now, for those of you listening out of the area, by the way, Mike's got this set up where he can send books anywhere. So those of you listening that might have even family members and others that are out of our particular Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas area, he can send any book anywhere. So for those of you listening, don't worry about that whatsoever. All right. Scams. I want to talk about this today. We've got another guest joining us here at the bottom of the hour. Before I do this, Joe sent me this. And there's actually a link on the USPS.gov website. And that is actually USPIS. That's the inspection service. And reality is, don't be scammed this Christmas season by scammers selling stamps. And you'll get a lot of things, whether it be through social media or even coming into your inbox, might even get a text message on this. In other words, if you see that there's some great deal on stamps, normally $100 and they're half off. Well, you guys all know that's not how it works. Postage is postage is postage. And unless you're paying full price, they're likely stolen, counterfeit, or you're never going to receive them in the first place. So what's that old saying? If it's too good to be true, it probably is. That will be the case in regards to stamps. If you're not paying face value for the stamp, they're not correct. They're not a real stamp. And I'm guessing – I didn't read through all of this to find out what are the penalties – for using counterfeit stamps, but I don't want to go down that path. I don't think any of you do either. And these counterfeit stamps, there's pictures of them here on the website. They're pretty darn good. they're hard to tell the difference is my point so reality is just be wary if there's significant discounts know that they could be either a scam i mean it's a scam altogether but it could be a scam to gain your info could be a scam and that they're counterfeit or last but not least they could of course be stolen so bottom line buy your stamps at USPS.com or go to your local post office, however you want to do that. And by the way, there's all sorts of places that sell stamps as well. I believe King Soopers, Costco, Sam's, you can buy stamps there as well. But again, if it looks like it's some great deal, half off. It's most likely some sort of a scam to gain something, or they're going to send you product, but it's counterfeit, meaning it's no good anyways, and you just spent money that's, you know, it's good money after bad. You're not going to be able to do anything with them anyways if they're counterfeit. So bottom line, just realize that that scam is out there. And I talk about these on a pretty routine basis as we learn more and more of what's going on out there. So, yeah, do not buy counterfeit stamps. High-Five Plumbing is next. If you've got any kind of plumbing or electrical problem, don't forget they do both now. It's High-Five Plumbing, 877-WE-HIGH-FIVE.
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SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for tuning in today, by the way, and I appreciate you all listening and the books we gave away during the first segment today. I appreciate Mike coming in and joining us. Again, I cannot talk highly enough about the book that he has authored. There's more in the series coming out, so it's one of those things where you're going to want to get involved in that and then have each series so that as you start reading to your friends kids or grandkids or however you decide to do that it's a great tool to teach kids to learn it'll just be a lot of fun for you and your family as well so again the adventures of jimmy and andrew and mike if you're listening thanks again for being a part of what we do and and as you guys all know this is something near and dear to me just because of where we're at on the educational end of things that i talk about on a routine basis uh here on rush to reason the fact that we have got to get in gear when it comes to that end of things, because the reality is we are very behind as a country in regards to all of that, and we have got to figure out a way somehow, some way to get caught up, because we are definitely behind in that area. So Charlie's doing his best to get our next guest, which we may not be able to get a hold of, and as we head down the stretch into the holidays, things like that can happen. Not a problem. All right, this came up actually Saturday on Drive Radio. and I want to go ahead and talk about it here, and I was going to do this anyways, but I was reminded of it on Saturday, and you guys hear me talk a lot about what government should do, what's the proper role of government, and different things regarding, you know, towns and cities and so on, and I've got very distinct thoughts in a lot of areas when it comes to those things. Now, This one I've talked about in the past, and some of you all know exactly what I'm going to say when I get to this particular topic, but that's the town of Morrison, and they are disbanding their police department. Oh, we have Mark. Okay, never mind. You know what? I'll come back to that topic here in just one minute. Let's talk to Mark next. Mark Gober. Mark, welcome. How are you, sir? I'm well. Thank you for having me. No, I appreciate it very much. And you are author and end to the upside-down reset, the leftist vision for society under the Great Reset. And as we have a new president, actually the old president coming back, let's say it that way, Mark, what do you envision along those lines?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think many of the initiatives that we've heard about with regard to the Great Reset, which is the World Economic Forum's vision for society laid out in 2020, I do think the new administration's policies will likely stifle many of those great reset initiatives. However, I think it is important to keep in mind that these ideas have been put forward because they seem to be part of a long-term plan. And maybe for the next four years, we'll have a bit of a shield, but I think we need to remain vigilant.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I'm with you. And I've had people even ask me that, Mark, you know, what do I think? How do I think things are going to look? Granted, I don't have a crystal ball. I know you don't either. But I really look at this as... I guess the great pause. Like you, I feel like these things have been set in motion for a long time. The Marxist movement and the globalist end of things, Mark, have been trying to infiltrate our country for some 60-plus years now. Yeah, there may be a pause here by this administration, and depending upon what happens in 2028, it might even continue. But the reality is we have got to be vigilant in that because, believe me, the other side isn't going to stop.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's well put, and I think the Great Reset was an initiative – starting in 2020 and that was basically the new branding of something that's been going on for a long time and maybe the branding in the future will change but the ideology is very similar
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, intrinsically, and Mark, you know this as well as I, intrinsically, they don't like us. I mean, the reality is, and the way I explain it all the time, is it's good versus evil. And I know that a lot of folks might, you know, counter me on that because I'm not saying that, you know, one side of the part of the country, you know, one party is good versus the other side being evil. But the ideology and what those individuals think matters. I do believe markets good versus evil, and the reality is the other side is going to do everything they possibly can, whether they're relabeling it or not. The core of it is they hate what we stand for, they hate America, they hate what we were founded on, and they want to see a significant change in all of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
The term that I've used in my books is spiritual war. So I see it in a very similar light. And I also use the term in this book, an end to the upside down reset, anti-human. That is the mentality of this ideology, that human beings are parasitic and we should try to control them rather than to allow them to be prosperous.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right. No, Mark, I say that constantly. The whole climate movement is very much what you just said. The reality is we are the scourge of the Earth. We should be purged. And if we are, then Earth comes back to normal, according to them, I should say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I actually have a whole chapter on climate in the book, An End to the Upside-Down Reset. And you're reminding me of a quote from a CNN technical director. He was filmed undercover by Project Veritas in 2021 saying, And he was talking about how at the time COVID was all the talk, that COVID would die down and fear sells. And the next thing that had longevity, that was going to be climate. And it turned out he was right. And I do think it's part of this anti-human mentality.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And Mark, you and I are, as you can tell, very much. on the same wavelength with all of this. I also, as you heard me say a moment ago, good versus evil. I believe very much that it is, in fact, a spiritual battle that's going on. And I know a lot of folks would laugh at me for saying this, but literally it is a spiritual battle, not only for the soul of America, but for the souls of the individuals inside of America, Mark.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. I talk about this in the book. You've all know Harari, who's been an advisor to the World Economic Forum. He has said things like the idea that there is a soul or spirit that's over, paraphrasing. And this is the mindset, metaphysically, of the Great Reset. It's not about a spiritual revolution to understanding the greater purpose of our existence, but rather it's about getting rid of that and trying to control humanity.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep. And again, I go back to Mark. This is the core of the Marxist movement. The reality is they replace God with government. Government becomes, you know, the ultimate end-all to be-all, end-all, and whatever they say goes, and you don't need God any longer because government will take the place of. I mean, this is the core of that movement. That's why I say it's good versus evil, because any time you take God out of the equation, you're evil.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and it's offloading personal responsibility to others and just trusting an expert because that person has a degree, and that does inherently take a greater intelligence out of the picture spiritually.
SPEAKER 13 :
So your whole thought on the book initially, I usually start with this with authors and why the book, but I kind of already know why because of everything we're talking about. But on the same token, what made you finally sit down and write this so that we can get this awareness out to people?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I was very much politically agnostic until 2020. I didn't know much about politics at all. And then given everything that happened, both with COVID and the election, there was no choice because having no opinion was basically an opinion. So I started looking very closely at what was happening. And I was pretty appalled by what I was seeing in terms of the authoritarian mindset from the left. And I have a very mainstream background. I went to Princeton undergrad. I worked in investment banking in New York. I spent a decade working in Silicon Valley. So many people that I respected and still respect intellectually were not seeing through the deception. And I just wanted to understand what was going on. So in this book, An End to the Upside-Down Reset, there are two segments that try to help other people see through what I was naive to until recently. Number one, I psychoanalyzed leftism as an ideology. And then the second part of the book is actually deconstructing this Great Reset agenda, because the language that's used in Klaus Schwab's book called COVID-19, The Great Reset, very flowery language. It sounds like the world's going to be a better place. But I broke it down into six segments in terms of societal change that they want to see cultural, political, economic, environmental, technological and metaphysical. And I wanted to make it easy for other people to understand.
SPEAKER 13 :
When you decided that, hey, things aren't quite right, this doesn't make any sense, I need to do something about this. I mean, I guess main question mark is, was there one single thing that happened that really woke you up to what was going on, or was it a combination of?
SPEAKER 07 :
It was a combination and it was a continuation of patterns of the mainstream press putting out an idea and then looking at primary sources myself and seeing they weren't telling the full story or in some cases completely deceiving people. And it was happening over and over again.
SPEAKER 13 :
And just so you know, throughout that, because I've been on air for a decade plus and literally we're talking about all of covid from. Literally the, you know, two weeks to slow the spread on. I mean, you know, I can remember distinctly those times. And I even had some very great doctors and folks that were on with me that, you know, we started with very early that really started to set the record straight. They were some of those, you know, antis in the very beginning. And of course, we were all called loons. And, you know, we didn't, you know, our own governor called us selfish bastards. You know, we don't know what we're doing and we don't want, you know, we don't want the good of the whole and on and on we go. And the reality, Mark, is all of us, myself included. We were right. They were wrong.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's the irony of it, and we haven't seen too many apologies.
SPEAKER 13 :
I haven't gotten one. Really quick, Mark, I had people back then, even listeners, I mean, I would get into debates not only on air but off air, social media and so on. I literally had people saying things like, you know, you're the reason why we are where we are, and we'd be better off without you. In other words, Mark, I should just die, and that should be the end of it. In other words, some folks even said, you should get COVID and die. Those are the kind of things I had to listen to back then.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm somehow not surprised by that. It speaks to, I don't know what to call it other than mind control or brainwashing that seems to remove all rationality.
SPEAKER 13 :
I call it a mental illness. Maybe that's me being a little bit too generous, but to your point, these are individuals that really have allowed others to control them. They're thinking about things in a non-real way, and they've been duped.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. But I do think there is an awakening happening. I mean, where we are today versus four years ago, the number of people who are able to ask questions about things. So I'm optimistic in that sense.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, you saw that in this last election. I mean, not only did Donald Trump win on the electoral side, he won the popular vote. A lot of people have literally woken up to hang on. You know, this whole wokeness end of things. And again, Mark, maybe they're not. down to the same minutia that you and I are, although it's through books like yours that they could learn some of that minutia and even get more educated than they are right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but I do think it's just this pattern that people are having to wake up to, that they were told things that just aren't true, and their mind has to just go with rationality at a certain point. I think there's a long way to go, but I'm definitely encouraged.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know what? Everything you just said, I cannot argue. Now, this is where not only does your book come into play, what we do here on a regular basis as well, but to your point, really, as we started opening up the conversation, we can't stop. I mean, this might be a pause, but unless we keep our foot on the gas pedal, it will die.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. It's about the awareness of the individuals to me. It has to be grassroots because people have to, the authorities are going to put out whatever they put out and it's up to us to discern that. And through free information and allowing people to absorb things on their own, I think that's the ultimate solution.
SPEAKER 13 :
Where do folks buy the book, Mark?
SPEAKER 07 :
It's available on Amazon and it's in paperback, Kindle and audible format and then to the upside down reset.
SPEAKER 13 :
Awesome. Mark, as you can tell, you're in great company. Anytime you want to come back, you let me know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you so much. Thank you for all your work as well.
SPEAKER 13 :
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 13 :
And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 06 :
John, just a little more background on counterfeit stamps. Have you ever watched these shows, a contraband seized at the border to catch a smuggler?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love that show, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And one of the things they show is that there's a booming business in, it's coming from China, counterfeit stamps, you know, in the role of a hundred. Now, here's a quick, I know you're not going to know, but your best guess. So Let's take an 18-inch by 18-inch by 12-inch deep box, which is about the size of two shoe boxes side by side, a package you could put under one arm. If you put that full of rolls of 100 first-class stamps, what do you think the value of that box that you have under your arm is?
SPEAKER 1 :
$20,000, $25,000?
SPEAKER 13 :
$85,000. Wow, $85,000. Huge.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because, again, a roll of stamps, they're one inch wide. And the roll is an inch and a half in diameter. So if you have an 18 by 18 inch box, you can have 12, you can have 144 per row. And since they're only an inch deep.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, true, true.
SPEAKER 06 :
You could have, you'd have eight.
SPEAKER 13 :
And they're lightweight. That's way different than even cash.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And the drug dogs can't spill. Yeah, because it's just paper. It's just paper. Interesting. So they've been doing this. So, again, an 18 by 18 by 12-inch deep box has $85,000 worth of counterfeit stamps. Amazing.
SPEAKER 13 :
And really quick, Joe, how accurate are they? I'm guessing pretty accurate.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, very, very accurate. I mean, you know, it doesn't take much to make.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, it's not like there's a hologram or anything special when it comes to a stamp.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nope. And they're showing to catch a smuggler. I mean, they're coming in. And what's happening— By the way, one of the things you missed, when they're really cheap, they're not going to send you any product.
SPEAKER 13 :
They just want your credit card. That's right. All they're doing is stealing your info. That's all they're doing.
SPEAKER 06 :
They just want your credit card. But when they're selling you something for $39 or whatever, you know. Cap price, whatever. But these guys are buying these $85,000 worth of stamps for, you know, $500.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right, right. They're making a mother load on that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Now, they're not selling them for $85,000. Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 13 :
They're probably selling them for half that, but still, that's a pretty good take, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you pay $500 for a box of, you know, for $85,000 worth of fake stamps, and you sell them for $40,000, and you hit a home run.
SPEAKER 13 :
Shoot, Joe, if you were getting $10,000, you'd be a home run.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, you got nothing in it, basically. My Facebook page, every day these things are popping up, every single day.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which, you know, side note, you would think that that's something, you know, they could monitor everything else through COVID that you and I might post, but they can't monitor that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And by the way, still are in a lot of ways. Well, you know, I report them as scams and the Facebook does take them down, but they have to wait for somebody to report them. And by the way, the Amazon pallet scam is back. Oh, jeez.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, buy your pallet of product that doesn't exist.
SPEAKER 06 :
Of return product, right. Buy your pallet of return product. And they show this Photoshop picture. They show like 20 pallets. You know, each one five feet high, stacked with product for $79 a pallet.
SPEAKER 13 :
The AI stuff, just as a side note, too, for all of you listening, I was talking about this over the weekend. Reality, Joe, as you know, the AI stuff just continues to get better and better and better to the point where I'm not sure how you're going to know the difference down the road.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And one of these pictures, by the way, they show these pallets in front of an Amazon warehouse. And all they've done, they've taken a picture of an Amazon warehouse with the big Amazon logo. sign up above the building, and then they Photoshop these pallets. And by the way, it's the same three pallets with the same Photoshopped $79 yellow sticker sign. So it makes you believe that these pallets are parked out in front of an Amazon warehouse, and they're all returned merchandise. Oh, and then they have, each one, they have 20 to 30 Rave reviews. Got mine yesterday. It had all this. And they're fake. They're fake profiles. And, in fact, if you go from one to the next, it's the same fake reviews, even though the pop-up ad is different. It's the same fake reviews, and you go to click on these profiles of these people. They're all fake profiles.
SPEAKER 13 :
What's that old saying, Joe, if it sounds too good to be true?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, you're not going to get a pallet. Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, you know, there's no free lunch, Joe. I mean, anybody out there that thinks that, you know, either one of two things. Even if you get product delivered, it isn't going to be anywhere as close to what they described you're getting. So at the end of the day, no matter what, you're going to get taken advantage of. Best bet, just steer away from them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. I got one more thing from your Saturday show. I couldn't call in, but you're talking about appraisals and stuff. You want a little more background on insuring your guns? Yeah, go ahead. So I did some research, and actually I did it myself. I forgot how much I paid. But the cost to insure guns is about $0.30 per $100. So if you have $10,000 worth of guns and you want to insure them, it's going to be roughly $300 a year to insure $10,000 worth of firearms. But here's the big thing you want to be careful. People forget about the optics. You can have a $600 rifle with a $350 scope on top or on pistols now. the big thing are these red dot optics on top. And red dots are $300 a piece. So if you are going to insure your guns, make sure you include the value of the optic. Because if you just say, well, here's my list of guns I want to insure, and you forget that you have a Leopold 4x10 scope on your rifle, they're going to pay you for the rifle, but they're not going to pay you for the telescopic sight. So you need to specify... You know, boom, boom, .30-06 rifle with a 4x10 Leopold scope and then put that stated value in there. Otherwise, you're not going to get it. Great point. It's really inexpensive. I mean, $300 for $10,000 worth of coverage.
SPEAKER 13 :
Pretty good deal.
SPEAKER 06 :
Pretty good deal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, not a bad idea at all. Well, really quick, Joe, before I let you go, one last thing. I haven't had a lot of time to talk about it, but I'll get to it maybe a little bit later, and that's, of course, the whole shooting of the UnitedHealthcare CEO and even some now of what the news is saying. And I don't know if you've been following along with any of that, but there are now some articles coming out, and I think some of these are, frankly – either wrong or they're trying to mislead people into thinking this guy printed his own gun. In other words, he's got some sort of a ghost gun. And that's not what I've seen at all as far as descriptions of the weapon and even what I've seen in some of the pictures.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, no, it's certainly not a plastic gun. But there's another type of ghost gun where you can buy the parts. Right. And then assemble the parts.
SPEAKER 13 :
But to my knowledge, Joe, unless I'm mistaken, have they found the gun at this point?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they found the gun. They found the gun.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, was that just today that they finally found that, or what? Because I hadn't read that earlier.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they found the gun. I was just watching the local New York City news here.
SPEAKER 13 :
And is it, in fact, a ghost gun, or...?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's yet to be confirmed.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
But it is a regular semi-automatic pistol. They found him with his fake New Jersey's driver's license. He's a young guy. He's a University of Pennsylvania graduate. Saw that. Quite well off, by the way. Saw that, too. Lived in Hawaii. And he's just angry at corporations. And if you want to see a bunch of sick people, there's a Facebook site called Being Liberal. If you go on there, there's 200 comments celebrating this guy. They're setting up a defense fund form. They're saying, oh, it was self-defense. He was defending the lives of other people. This guy's a hero. We need more just like him. John, it's sick, absolutely sick.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow, unbelievable, Joe. Yeah, and I've even heard, and for those of you that are conservatives, please be very, very careful in what you say and how you say things along these lines, Joe. I've even seen some conservatives say some things along the lines of, well, you know, these evil corporations, they make all this money and they deny these claims and they do this and they do that. And while that may be true, Joe, now is not the time or the place to talk about that after somebody's been murdered.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it isn't. And then to celebrate this guy— That's morbid. Absolutely morbid. I mean, it's sad. Not only sad, but it's scary to think there are so many people out there like this guy because apparently he didn't have any relatives. He didn't lose his mother to— Right. No, this guy's just mad.
SPEAKER 13 :
This guy's a hardcore lefty that's mad at the world.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, he had a three-page manifesto that ranting and raving about evil corporations in general.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just a hardcore, far nutjob left-wing liberal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Meaning you won't hear much more about this after this show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you won't. And by the way, some of the sickest—no, no, he couldn't have done it. He was with me. He was with me on the day of the shooting, you know. People, yeah, no, I was there, too. He was with us. You know, they're all saying I'm his alibi. I mean, that's how sick these people are. Unbelievable, Joe. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, again, really quick as a reminder to folks out there listening where you may not enjoy the insurance sides of things, which none of us do. that never gives anybody, anybody, an excuse to kill a CEO over disagreeing with how insurance companies work. If you don't like how they work, we lobby, we change politicians, we vote, we do all sorts of different things to counter that, but taking someone's life is never the answer. And as conservatives, we should be very, very, very careful in what we're actually commenting on, agreeing with, liking, or whatever when it comes to those types of comments. I'll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, welcome back. Out number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Time for our Monday Mortgage Minute. Kurt Rogers from Affordable Interest Mortgage. Kurt, welcome, sir. How are you? I'm doing just fine. John, how are you? I'm good. It's a little different weather outside today than we had yesterday, but still good. So as we head down this stretch into Christmas, I was kind of previewing this before you came on, really trying to let people know that, A, we were going to talk to you, and B, I was going to ask you, As we head into Christmas and people will be looking at all sorts of different things regarding gifts and presents and their finances and so on, how important is it for folks that may be looking to do something mortgage-wise in the next six months after the holidays? How important is it for them to really watch what they do credit card-wise?
SPEAKER 12 :
Right now, you and I have kind of had this conversation on the side, but right now people can actually, by going out at Christmas time, they'll open up a lot of credit cards to be able to take care of Christmas.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
If you don't do that correctly, that can be very costly in five to six months down the road because it can affect your credit score. Having too many credit cards with too high of balances will drive your score down.
SPEAKER 11 :
So in other words, don't be tempted by that freebie deal that, hey, if you get a credit card today, you get X amount off. Just sign here.
SPEAKER 12 :
Don't do that. Now, use the cards you have. Call the credit card company. Ask them to raise the limit. But don't go out and get a new one just to save maybe 10% or 20% because it's going to affect your score and cost you more.
SPEAKER 11 :
And for those of you listening, that's especially true. I mean, I think it's true across the board, Kurt, but especially if you're looking at a move or you're upsizing, downsizing. In other words, if you're looking at doing something different mortgage-wise, again, in the next six months, I would not do any of that.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I agree with that. But also remember, whatever you're going to put on your credit cards, that's going to increase your payments, your monthly payments. True. So if you're thinking about buying a house... and you're increasing those payments, you've got to start thinking about what's my debt-to-income ratio. Will I still qualify if I want to buy a house or refinance?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, my thought would be if you're really in that world, Kurt, and that's something you're thinking of doing in the next six months, and I know sometimes it's hard to not do, but I would forego or make Christmas very light and let everybody in your family know what your plan is over the next six months, and that's just part of what we have to do for Christmas.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Yeah, because if you're looking at, like you said, if you want to refinance or purchase in six months and you don't make it because of something you did here that you could have corrected, if you want to know what those numbers are, what your debt-to-income ratio needs to be, and how to calculate it, it's very simple. They can just call me, and I can just tell them how to do it for themselves so they have an idea of what they're putting themselves into.
SPEAKER 11 :
Great. You take over KLZ tomorrow, noon to one, for Haystack Help Radio. What are you doing tomorrow, Kurt?
SPEAKER 12 :
We're going to be answering questions just like this. We've had quite a few of the listeners call in and say, well, what happens if I do this? How can I do that? Different things. So we're going to be talking about those tomorrow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Perfect. Kurt, as always, I appreciate you, sir. Thanks, John. You bet. Have a great night. Kurt Rogers, Affordable Interest Mortgage, 720-895-0500. Do you have more month than money?
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We are back. As I said last hour, David Strzeski joining us now, Sound Planning Group. David, how are you, sir? Welcome. Hey, doing fantastic, John. How about yourself? Good. Merry Christmas to you. I don't know what I'll talk to you before then, so I hope you have a great Christmas. Talk to us about the latest jobs report, which might not look as rosy as the numbers actually say.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, you know, these jobs numbers come out, and, of course, we get this headline figure. And so everyone gets excited. It makes all the news reports. And it said we had 227,000 positive jobs in the month of October. Sounds amazing. However, if you look at the household survey, as in you call people's houses and you say, hey, do you have a job, yes or no? We lost 355,000 jobs last month.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so how can there be so much discrepancy between the two?
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so if you're just looking at the ADP jobs report, you could have two part-time jobs and be counted twice on that report, as I just got hired twice. But you really only have the equivalent of one full-time job, and those aren't even good jobs. So full-time jobs, part-time jobs are all counted the same in that government statistic. When you get down to the actual what is happening in the private sector, though, This is where it's different. And if you look at private sectors, they've been doing big layoffs here for the last nine months straight. And so last year, the number we had was 1.2 million were looking for work. Now we're looking at 1.7 million unemployed. So that's 500,000 more Americans that are still looking for work. And by the way, there's plenty that have stopped looking.
SPEAKER 11 :
But the Fed says everything's great, David.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they also say that they're federal and a place of reserve. Oh, yeah. Good point.
SPEAKER 1 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you know, and I wanted to bring this up with you specifically because, A, you watch these numbers and, you know, I do as well. And I also know, despite what a lot of. people think. Most people think that unemployment is done through reporting of employers and ADP and paychecks and companies like that, and nothing could be farther from the truth. They do exactly what you said a moment ago. They literally go out and poll x amount of americans and it's a pretty big job it's still in my opinion david pretty antiquated but that's how they actually do it they do not go off of those numbers now some of the hiring numbers they will take what adp and some of the others say but keep in mind as you know david adp doesn't service every single business out there correct correct
SPEAKER 03 :
And here's the interesting thing, John. We're having fewer people actually filling out these surveys or completing them. And so record low numbers actually in participation right now. So it's not even like a robust thing that we should be really paying attention to. This is very anemic, actually. So much so that if you'll remember, in March every year, they give you the official number of how many jobs were there and not after the seasonally adjusted stuff is out of there. But we only get it once a year. Jobs were revised down by 818,000 for the 12 months prior.
SPEAKER 1 :
818,000.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tell me another job that you can have that you miss your official numbers so significantly. I mean, we're looking at almost like more than a third.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you still keep your job. You're still credible. You're still whatever. Absolutely. I just don't see this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and here's a question for you, and this has been kind of in the back of my mind, and I don't know, I'm not privy to this information, but it would seem like, David, that they want some of these numbers now. to look better than what they are, because that's a little bit of a boost for the Democrats and Joe Biden himself. Yet after Trump gets inaugurated, my anticipation is you'll see the real numbers and what those things actually look like once Trump enters office, because then it'll all be blamed on him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, there's no question, and this is not even an opinion. The NBER, which is the organization that officially says that there's recessions or not, are very, very liberal. In fact, I believe 100% of them were appointed by Obama. And so, yeah, they've given us some very interesting government numbers here where we see that actually government hiring has far exceeded private sector hiring in these numbers. Unreal. You know, they get revised down so significantly and we make, you know, not a big deal of it. So Wall Street's complicit for not making a big enough deal of it. And just going along as the Pied Piper. You know, no offense, David.
SPEAKER 11 :
A lot of those are in the same camp, you know, politically speaking. And I just know because a lot of a lot of traders, a lot of folks on Wall Street are very liberal.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Which, by the way, side note, David, makes no sense to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think there's a lot of them that are just, they vote based upon a dollar and not necessarily ideals and some of the same reasons why you or I might do it as we're raising kids or families and we're part of communities in different ways. Good point. Wall Street serves Wall Street. D.C. serves D.C. Both sides of the aisle have their challenges, no question. I think that we, the people, are the ones that really actually have the voice, though. And what's awesome is that we're starting to get it back. And I feel like I have more of a voice right now. Agreed. You know, this this this department of let's cut some.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you know, and I'm glad you're going. I was going to go there anyways. You beat me to it. Doge Department of Government Efficiency. OK, let's talk for a moment. You mentioned a moment ago about the fact that government right now is hiring more than the private sector. And it is the data shows that. So we get Doge going and you get Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy that basically say, hey, guys, guess what? We're not going to spend some of the money in some of these areas we once were. In fact, some of you that have jobs now probably ought to be looking for a different job because you may not have this job any further. If, in fact, they get some of these things done, which, by the way, I believe they will, what effect will that have economically on us? Or will it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know, good question. I think that there will be a, you know, I'll say this. Are... ecosystem is very unhealthy right now. Correct. So we need to start with that as a premise.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
The second thing is to say, how do you fix it? Well, if your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep is going to be your downfall. We've got so many people, 14,400 turning 65 and literally, in the year 2024. The biggest group of baby boomers turning 65 is in the year 2024. Now, we have all these boomers going into Social Security and Medicare. What's going to happen with our spending? These organizations that we've been paying into for all these years, well, guess what? We're paying the Pied Piper now, and we're living longer than ever before. And so we have some significant challenges. What will be the issue, though, when we start cutting? Well, there'll be people that will certainly... I believe that they are disadvantaged and disenfranchised, and I'm sure the lawsuits will come and there'll be a lot of crazy stuff. I hope, though, that we can, as a nation, have a real conversation about some things and say, you know what, does it make sense the way that we're running this? Would anyone run their household like this? Because if this isn't the way that we'd run our household, why would we, the people, run our government like this? That's the biggest thing that tells me that it's not actually our government. Right, right. I agree. And by the way, I agree with what you just said a moment ago.
SPEAKER 11 :
I do think there's going to have to be some really staunch, hard conversations along those lines. My fear is, and it's a wholesome fear, David, is that... What you just said, while that makes sense to you and I, you know, about families and spending and so on, the typical government worker, I'm not sure, comprehends what you and I just said along those lines because I don't think they look at life the same way you and I do. There are some that do, and I've got some that listen to this program that very much are in that same camp and agree with what you and I are saying. I'm fearful that there's far too many that don't that, to your point earlier, will balk at any type of cuts and the lawsuits will come flying.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and, you know, if you really want to incite riots and everything, why don't we tell everybody that people are evil and, you know, and all this other stuff like like they've alienated President Trump, you know, for all these years. And then there's people shooting at him, you know, three times. That's not a big deal. Holy smokes. We are divided right now. This is the opportunity where we can heal. And we can, as a nation, you know what, when cuts come, if I was the person getting some cuts taken away from me, some of them taken away from me that I really needed, or even that it was excessive and expensive, but man, I was really benefiting from it, man, I would be hard. I don't think that there's an easy way to do that. Now, there is some ways to just cut some jobs for people that aren't willing to show up. Well, that's easy, okay? But there are some real hard conversations we've got to have. And
SPEAKER 11 :
And really quick, and I've mentioned this before on the program, and see if I'm correct in my thinking, but first thing I would do is, number one, if you've got folks that are getting close to retirement in the governmental systems, well, just whatever you need to do to encourage that, you're still going to save money on down the road when it comes to payroll, that retirement they're going to get no matter what. So my number one thought is take some of those elderly government workers, let's encourage them to move on, and that becomes really easy at that point. The next thing i would look at is if you've worked in government for five years or less uh no offense you don't have a lot going for you anyways you don't have a lot of stake in the game we're going to cut you as well and then lastly david i think the way you get to thin the herd is you move the agencies in a lot of cases themselves and through that move you'll have some attrition no matter what because some of those people just won't move if you take an agency by the way that's in D.C. and you move it to Colorado, for example, some of those folks are just going to say, yeah, no pound sand. I'm staying where I'm at. And I think you'd have pretty good grounds to just say, well, you know, we offered you the job. We said that we would even pay some of your moving expenses to go. You're the one that decided to stay. You no longer have a job.
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Right. Yeah, you know, I don't know. There's going to be a big national conversation for sure. And it'll be great to find some efficiency. I'm very much a ready aim fire. I feel like a lot of the, you know, that which, you know, came down these last four years, you know, by executive order. even the state of Washington, where I'm at, by executive order, is just absolutely insane.
SPEAKER 11 :
Just kill some of that stuff right off the bat. To me, that's easy stuff. That's a low-hanging fruit. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. But, you know, we've got to get our nation back to work. So it's supply-side economics that are going to do the things that are going to get us back – and hustling and doing the things that we're really good at. You know, it's the entrepreneur spirit. I think inflation's here, though, and so we got some real hard stuff that's going on. I like what you were just talking about with the guest earlier about people's budgets and not overspending and, you know, adding a little extra credit line instead of getting a different credit card. That was a great tip. People need to understand if their outgo exceeds their income, their upkeep will be their downfall. Same problem as Uncle Sam's. You are responsible for yourself. People have to understand that there's no nation that's going to come and rescue us if we fall apart, okay? Now, here's the interesting thing about credit cards, and this is actually really scary. Unsecured lines of credit, actually. And if people just say that they're done with it, well, those are – Those are gone if you file bankruptcy. So I think that we're probably going to see a lot of carnage coming, although a lot of good things. But there's a lot of carnage coming as different industries and people and sectors start to fall apart as our economy changes here, ultimately for the best. But when you go from one thing to the next, we just have to understand they ebb and they flow.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. No, you are 100% correct. And my advice to folks is, number one, I guess maybe because I've been one of those entrepreneurs the majority of my – well, all my adult life, actually, David. I mean, I've been self-employed since 1986, so I wasn't very old when I started. And the reality is when you're self-employed, there's always – and I know folks – I've read even books that say, you know, don't have a plan B because you don't have a plan B. You've got to make plan A work. Well, while I agree with that premise, I think it's very foolish to not have some alternative that, hey, if all of this goes south, I can still go do X. No, that's not my main plan, and I'm not going to work towards that. But I do have a relief valve, if you would, that's out there. And by the way, David, most people don't think that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and most people need the education right now. So think about this. We need the right education because there are certain industries that are just not going to work. AI is going to take certain things out very easily, especially if you jack up minimum wage to $15 an hour. That's right. So you're going to see big shifts and changes. So become employable. Become a key inside of the organizations that you're working at. Yep. Be that entrepreneur and create the next stuff because there's so many opportunities and things out there for people to be doing and to be taking advantage of. But this is definitely not for the faint of heart. And as we're changing, I just hope that real conversations can happen. People can actually look one another in the eyes and remember that we are the United States after all, not the divided states. And so let's bring our united ideas together, even though they might sound different and and I guarantee you we're going to find some harmony. We've been doing it for 250 years. We can continue to do it. We just need the right leadership.
SPEAKER 11 :
Fully agree with you, David, as always. Appreciate you very much. How do folks find you and follow you?
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Hey, myspg.com is our website. We've got a number of things that are going on here. I've got some classes that are going to be coming out in the first month of the year online, so people that are more interested in getting information on Medicare and Social Security and retirement planning. I'll call this the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act 2.0. I'm just in the process of finishing up this class. Trump is going to reignite that, and it is literally the single greatest opportunity in our lifetimes to reduce or eliminate taxes on our retirement dollars.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. You guys hear me talk about them periodically, and that's our Colorado Public Employees Retirement Fund. That's what PARA stands for. And I've talked about this over the course of literally the past, what have I been on air now, Charlie, 11 years or so now, and I've talked about it from almost day one because it's been a problem that entire time. And when I say problem, I mean underfunded. Now, it doesn't mean that those that are on payroll right now are not going to get their checks and get paid, but as time goes by, the liability part of the fund continues to grow, and it's not being offset well enough. Right now, and by the way, the reason this is so important is because it's a public-funded retirement account, and when I mean publicly-funded, Yes, the teachers and those that are participating in it, they fund it to an extent, but it's guaranteed by you, the taxpayer. So if something happens and it becomes insolvent, we're on the hook. We, as in taxpayers, are on the hook. Right now... The fund is basically short. It's got unfunded debts to its members of $27.5 billion. Not million, billion.
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$27.5.
SPEAKER 11 :
And what's happened here of late, and the reason why I brought this up is there's some articles out there. Colorado Sun actually picked this one up, whereby there was a board member, a trustee, by the name of Scott Smith, who raised some awareness about to some of these things and even encouraged teachers and administrators inside of the Paris system to bring whatever concerns they've got to board meetings, which you would think would be the appropriate thing to do. Well, he got censured and basically reprimanded for doing that. In other words, this is a board that doesn't want to be transparent. This is a board that doesn't care what its members actually think. This is a board that feels it's above the law. That no matter what they do, it's good enough and it doesn't make any difference what anybody else thinks and don't question me about it. And I didn't realize that this had become such a big deal, but there's even been some board meetings to where Scott Smith had invited some folks to come, and they spent way longer, I guess, airing their concerns to the point that the board meeting, wow, went too long. Ask me if I care on that one, by the way. This is your job, para-members. I don't care that your meeting went long. I don't care that 50 people showed up to express their concerns. Good for them. It's their money that you're supposed to be watching over. Key word here, you're a board trustee, meaning you are accountable and responsible for the money those people have put in. Do your dang job. And yet you're mad at a person like Scott for inviting people to come in and air their grievances. That's what they're supposed to do, and it's what you should be doing regularly. You guys are a bunch of clowns. Literally, clowns. You are not above the law. And I, as a taxpayer, am backing up your fund. I, as much as the people that are there, that are contributing, have a right to express grievances. I'm a taxpayer. I fund what you won't, what you fail to do. And there's been all sorts of conversation throughout the past decade or more about how they're looking at their actuaries as far as how much money they'll actually be making in the future interest-wise to replace the money in the fund. And where I'm going with that is they were using numbers that were 8%, 10%, 12% returns that they have not met. A lot of years, they don't come close to meeting what their expectations were. Therefore, not making as much money on the fund as they should. Therefore, it gets short. That's where this $27.5 billion figure comes from. In my opinion, that whole board needs replaced. The trustees need replaced. They're a bunch of jokers. If you're one of them, by the way, shame on you. Shame on you. You should be doing a better job with the money that's been entrusted to you. And I don't care what your business of that meeting is. If there are people there that want to speak to you about what's going on, you should be listening. Shame on you. I don't care what your business is. You can do that business someplace else for that matter. Get your ducks in a row prior to the meeting. By the way, as you guys all probably know by now, I have sat through many a board meeting, through various organizations, and I will tell you that 90% of what goes on in a board meeting is wasted time. Could have been done outside of the meeting very easily and just bring a synopsis to the meeting and everybody there doesn't have to argue over something stupid. I've been in church board meetings where you argued about the paint color of a wall, and I'm not exaggerating. No one cares at the end of the day. Sorry, there's better things to talk about. I guarantee you there are some of these things that go on in these meetings that if I were there listening and or running the meeting, they would not take near as much time as they do. And yes, I've ran many a meeting in my day, as you probably already know. Not bragging, but I know how to run a meeting, and they shouldn't take that long. But I will say this when it comes to public comment. If you want to limit public comment to a certain amount of minutes per person, I get that. You need to give everybody ample time to be able to speak. And if you want to limit that to five minutes a person, okay, fine. I'm okay with that. But to just shut them down to where they're not allowed to speak at all and or get mad at a particular board member because they instituted that, that's a bunch of garbage. Shame on you. These are unelected governmental officials. And check me on that, Charlie. I don't believe para folks are elected. Double check me to make sure. But I'm pretty sure they're appointed. But double check me on that. I've never voted for a paraperson. Let's just say that. Now, internally, maybe in their own system, they get voted for. But by the way, given the fact this is a public fund that I, as a taxpayer, am backing up, these should be voted positions. Elected positions, I mean. We should vote for these people. I'm guessing they're appointed. Appointed. That's what I thought. Charlie just said appointed by the governor, confirmed by the Senate. 16 people. Which, frankly, is eight too many. You don't need a board of 16 people. You can't make decisions. There's too many people. That's twice as many as there should be. And I don't know how many come from the public versus come from the private and so on. Yeah. And what are they paid? I don't know. In fact, Charlie, thank you for asking. One of the things that that this Scott individual, Scott Smith, complained about was there's a lack of transparency on the para website as to what goes on, including some of the things even Charlie and I are talking about. You should be able to go to the para website and find everything I just said. What's the budget? By the way, a synopsis of the budget. Where are they at with their liabilities and or the fund itself? How is it functioning? How is it performing? And so on. And by the way, I don't want the details. I want a synopsis. An accurate synopsis of what's going on. There should be minutes to each meeting, which the way I understood in this particular article, those don't exist. Those should be public. From what I understand, none of that is on the website and should be. This is one of those I call rogue boards that runs amok and really isn't accountable. And the reason why it upsets people like myself is because if this thing runs amok, we're on the hook for it. By law, by law in Colorado, we as taxpayers have to fund this. If it comes up short... All of you that are listening to pay Colorado taxes, you're on the hook for this. And I don't think most people really understand what I'm talking about because it's not talked about in the news and in public near enough. It's just something that's assumed that, oh, if I put in 30% of my paycheck as a government worker, then I'm going to get that back someday. I've got a guaranteed contribution with a defined benefit, and that's how I'm going to make this work. Actually, it's not even a defined contribution. It's a defined benefit, which that needs changed. I think some of the new people coming in, it's a defined contribution. But in the past, it's been a defined benefit. And there are some folks out there right now that are pulling from Para way more than they probably should have been because in the past, I don't know if it's still the way it is today. I believe it is, though. In the past, let's say you were a teacher and you made, I don't know, you've been there long enough and maybe you're even an administrator and you're making $100,000 a year. Use round numbers. I believe Para paid you 80% of that figure when you retired. Now, the way that worked, though, is it was based upon the last two years you worked earnings. So let's say you put in 30 years. And let's say you made, you know, towards the end there, you were starting to make upwards of $100,000. Well, guess what you could go do? You could go drive a school bus for two seasons, right? Add to your 120 or add to your 100. Maybe you could go make as a bus driver another 30. You did that for two years. You now made 130 and you got 80% of that. Follow where I'm going with this? That's part of the system, by the way, that needs to be fixed because you shouldn't be able to double dip like that. But a lot of folks did. and are now making that money in retirement guaranteed from PERA on the backs of taxpayers. Because remember, they didn't put that much in. Those last two years, they didn't contribute as much as what they should have, but yet the defined benefit says they still get the money. That's the problem with the system and also partly why they're underfunded by $27.5 billion. So I wanted to bring that to your attention. I talk about PERA a lot, and a lot of you that are inside the system probably should follow this closely now. On the same token, you're going to get your money no matter what because we as taxpayers have to fund it no matter what. But it's an important thing for taxpayers in Colorado to know where this is because it could very much affect us as taxpayers on down the road if this thing continues to go haywire, which it already is. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Not in my notes, but Charlie just reminded me of something that I can throw in here for the last six, seven minutes we have of the show. More FEC reports coming out on the Harris campaign and what she actually spent money on and who some of that money went to. Some of them, like, was it Beyonce, Charlie? What was the number? 185K to stand there. Yeah, it's to the management company, but we know how that works. She didn't do a thing. She stood there. In fact, people were mad because she didn't sing. But yet she earned $185,000 to basically stand up there and endorse Kamala Harris, Oprah Winfrey, her company, Harpo Productions. Million bucks for a video that they produced. Was it an hour? How long was the video, Charlie? I've got to look up how long the video was or what all went on there, but let me just tell you this. Knowing what I know about some of what goes on there, a million dollars is heavily, heavily, heavily inflated by probably an extra zero, and even that is being very generous. In other words, $100,000 is being very generous. It's borderline... In my opinion, borderline money laundering, depending upon what those actual individuals did back to the campaign, you have to wonder what's going on here. I mean, basically, at the end of the day, if I were a donor, I would be 90 minutes. Thank you, Charlie, 90 minutes. Yeah, a million bucks, far too much. And if I were a donor, I'd be hot because my money was wasted. That money really went to pad the pockets of a lot of celebrities is really what happened. And in turn, got their endorsements for Kamala Harris by doing so. If you were or you are a donor on that side, I would be extremely, extremely upset at what happened there. Again, more and more is going to come out on where the actual money was spent. There are claims now. Initially, they thought she spent about a billion dollars, but I think the number now, Charlie, is up to like 1.6, I want to say. $1.5, $1.6 billion that she alone in 90 days spent, and she's still short. What, was it $50 million she's short, Charlie, I want to say, or $20 million? $20 million she's short. And again, who knows if that's even the actual number at this point. Sounds like they don't have anybody that really knows how to add. A lot of fleecing went on there. I mean, in other words, a lot of people had their hand in the till, quote, unquote, and extracted money out of good donors that really did believe in her cause. I mean, those are the people that I really feel sorry for. There's a lot of people out there that really believed in the cause, and I would have to believe, unless I'm completely wrong and the left is just this ignorant, I got to believe this affects future fundraising. The more of this comes out, and the more they find how she literally wasted their money on a campaign that was, no matter what somebody on the left says, was dismal at best. How do you justify spending $1.6 billion? And you're still $20 million short, by the way. And then you find out some of the things I just mentioned a moment ago, and this is the tip of the iceberg. I think you're going to see a lot more money wasted than just that. I mean, some of the airtime that she even purchased was absolutely ludicrous, some of the money that she spent. And again, you're going to see more and more come out. And by law, just like here with our own Colorado GOP, you'll find out because you can't hide that stuff. If you do, you're going to jail. Well, maybe not as a Democrat, but a Republican sure would. So it'll continue to come out. We'll find out exactly where some of the money was spent. But again, if I were a donor, I would be extremely mad over the way that money was spent and handled because there's a lot of wealthy people already. I mean, keep in mind, Oprah's a billionaire. If Oprah really believed in her candidate and in her country that she felt so, you know, how should I say this, Charlie, burdened to help out, she should have done that for free, for a donation to the campaign and not taken the million dollars. Tells you how greedy people like Oprah really are. Now, Oprah will claim, well, I didn't know anything about it. You liar. Yeah, you did. Yeah. I know a million dollars to a billionaire isn't a lot, but it's still enough to pay attention to what's going on. And somebody in that organization would have said, hey, Oprah, guess what? Guess what? Guess what? The Harris campaign is asking us to do. By the way, how much do you think we ought to charge? Here's our first thought. What do you think? Trust me, folks, those conversations take place. As much as Oprah wants to sound like she doesn't know, she is a liar. Flat out liar. If she says she doesn't know, she's lying. Period. And there's nobody on the left that can defend that. And here's how I know. I'm a business owner. I know how these things work. I know the communication that happens inside of a business, and Oprah isn't that removed from that large of a deal that she wouldn't know what's going on. Period. And I also know that Oprah's not dumb, and she didn't get to where she's at today by not knowing what's going on in her own company. I'll give her credit where credit's due, but her to come out now and play dumb, shame on you, Oprah. You should know better than that. You're not going to get by with playing dumb. So veteran windows and doors is next. Entry doors right now, 40% off. Free labor to install. Give Dave a call today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
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Yeah, somebody just texted that the donors to the Harris campaign need to get a message telling them this is how Marxism works. Grow up. Yeah, can't argue that one, by the way. Great text message. I appreciate that. Yeah, you're not wrong. Let me just say that. You are not wrong. And really quick, somebody texted in, too. Who do I have that's a sponsor for the reverse mortgages? That is Bruce Simmons. American Liberty Mortgage. You can find Bruce at klzradio.com. Just look for Bruce Simmons. That's American Liberty Mortgage. And if you heard that via text or if you heard that answer to the text, please tell me you did. Otherwise, I'll text you back. But thank you, by the way, guys, for all the text messages. Have a great night. Be safe out there in the snow. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
This episode takes listeners through a vibrant mix of current events including a Florida man’s extravagant festive display, airline baggage horror stories, and a compelling discussion on the Jordan Neely case. As Dana navigates through controversial conversations on race and public safety, listeners gain insight into not just these incidents, but also the broader societal implications they represent. Stay tuned for a quick overview of world politics and international maneuvering as Trump's influence becomes a talking point.
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So when I first read that this Florida man had decorated his yard with the lamp from A Christmas Story, I thought, well, how big could it be? You'd be surprised. JP McCallick's suburban Jacksonville, Florida home. It's 20 feet tall. And it even includes a replica of Ralphie hugging the lamp wearing his pink bunny suit. Is it an inflatable? Because it really doesn't even look like it's an inflatable. But he goes, I like his response. He goes, quote, everyone's decorating their houses. And I thought it'd be fun to have like a neighborhood competition. And so he just decided to put that up. He also, I mean, it's crazy. He does not have what I would call traditional decorations. But that's funny. So he's got the giant leg lamp in his house. in his yard. I kind of like that though. I, I, I've been wanting to get a giant nativity and put in my yard, but I want a giant nativity, like a huge one. Some people in my household don't share my vision. I mean, no, but you know, if it's awkward, you know, I want like resin, right? We got to talk. We got to save this for later. Cause I got more. Hang on. I got more to get into. Um, Let's see. Oh, my gosh. Listen to this. A Florida man says Delta Airlines burned his golf bag and clubs worth nearly $4,000. Oh, and it looks real bad, too. I'm looking at the destruction of it. He said that his golf bag was burned and everything was charred. I don't even know how you burn because golf clubs are what are they? Metal? Aluminum? Yeah. He was this is in October. He was on a flight from Atlanta. He was waiting for his luggage at the Southwest Florida International Airport. And then he said when he saw it come around again, he goes, wait, oh, my gosh, those are our those are my clubs. The freight guy said that they dragged it and it wore through the protective covering, started to spark, and then it caught everything on fire. So he's filed a claim with Delta. Delta initially denied the claim. And finally they said that they're going to pay for it. But it was like for, I mean, and it looks bad. How do you drag them and then spark? That's just negligence. That's just laziness and negligence. I don't know how else, how else you attribute that. Look, I just want to show you the photo. Look at that. That's crazy. That's, that's what they look like. That's insane. Oh my gosh. Oh, let's see. Last but not least, a half-naked Florida man. I may have to share this tomorrow. High on meth, broke into a home, only to steal the resident's carpet cleaner. Our partners at Caltech, the P15. Standard capacity, 15 rounds. I highly recommend the P15, especially if you're looking for a concealed carry. Striker Fire Pistol. This is from the inventors of the micro-compact pistol category. Striker Fire Reliability. It is the P15. Stands for 15 PEWS. I mean, maybe not the PEW part, but 15 rounds. Comes with two standard capacity magazines. One's a 15-round minimal pinky extension. The other's a flush-fit double-stack mag that holds 12 rounds. It's 1.27 inches approximately wide. 4-inch barrel. Lifetime warranty. Tritium and fiber-optic front sight. Fully adjustable fiber-optic 2-dot rear sight. as well uh and the metal version comes with these gorgeous walnut uh panels the polymer version gator grip texture lightest thinnest double stack nine millimeter on the market hands down lighter and thinner than my 43x packs a punch without dragging you down without compromising stopping power or concealability uh it's a great great offer from caltech and you need to check it out p15 in time for christmas innovation performance and caltech learn more at caltechweapons.com K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com. It's the P-15. Tell them Dana sent you.
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You want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud? How about we do the same? When they attempt to oppress us. I'm tired. We need some.
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So this is just one of the one of the examples of BLM now demanding that apparently, I guess, as some kind of payment for Daniel Penny being found not guilty that now he's calling for a race war. He said, quote, people want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud. How about we do the same? We need some black vigilantes. First off, and again, welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. That's not how Jordan, that's not what happened with the situation of Jordan Ely. Why are they lying about and omitting that he was threatening to kill people on that subway platform? Why is Hawk Newsome, who sounds like the name of a Jeremy Clarkson bear, why is he pretending that Jordan Neely wasn't getting in the faces of women and their children and elderly people and anyone else on that subway platform and threatening to kill them and becoming more and more irate and getting closer and closer to them. That wasn't just Jordan Neely being loud. And, uh, or asking for food. That was Jordan Neely, who by every black and white witness that was on that subway platform said, yes, he absolutely was threatening to kill people. That's what they testified to. He was threatening to kill people. So Hawk Newsom believes that Jordan Neely should be free to kill people, punch elderly women in the face, shove women under train tracks and try to kidnap seven-year-olds because he's black. That's what Hawk Newsome believes. Hawk Newsome believes that if your skin color should determine whether or not you can just assault and threaten to murder people and maybe even murder people, why the hell not? He thinks that apparently that's a right to a specific skin color in the United States, as though this would have happened any differently if Jordan Neely was white. Because Hawk Newsome is a thug racist. He's an absolute racist. That's why he is just I mean, that's exactly what it is, what he is. That's just like, good golly, it's 2024. You think that Jordan Ely would have? What do you think? I cannot believe that anyone in their right mind would think that if Jordan Ely were white, that would have been acceptable. Oh, did you hear that man who is threatening to murder people and he got in the face of the woman and she's trying to protect her baby in a stroller and he's threatening to kill her? Well, was he white? Yeah. Oh, that's all right then. Really? Really? I mean, that says more about those people than it does about the people they're making the assumption about. And now this claim that, well, he got killed because he asked for some food or he got killed just because he was loud. No, that's not what happened at all. These people weren't there. The witnesses who testified were. They're rewriting this to try to make Jordan Neely some sort of hero, some sort of innocent. Daniel Penny was forced into the position that he was forced into. He was forced to use skills that he had learned as a veteran because of New York City. New York's lawlessness and disorder forced him into this position. It forced the people on that subway to cower in fear. It allowed Jordan Neely to freely threaten people until the point at which somebody had to do something because someone was going to get hurt. Where is the concern of this family for the woman that Jordan Neely punched in the face and broke her nose, the elderly woman? Because he had a warrant out for his arrest, by the way, at the time of his death for that. What did she do to get her face punched in? I noticed that the family, all these grifters who just decide to just show up, they didn't have a press conference for that woman. Can't a woman ride a subway in New York without getting punched in the face? People want to jump up and punch elderly women? What did she do? Did she ask for food? Was she loud? Or what about the seven-year-old that Jordan Ely was on video trying to drag down an alley? What did that seven-year-old do? Where's the family and all these grifting racist hustlers out there? Where are they all at? What did that seven-year-old do? Or what about the woman he tried shoving onto the train tracks? What did she do? I mean, how long do women have to take abuse from people like Jordan Neely before people grifting racist hustlers like wannabe Al Sharpton, Hawk Newsome, before they finally come to the realization that, OK, well, I guess, you know, I guess we're even now. Who who allowed you to determine that these people and abusing these people was was the way to make yourself feel equal or validated? I mean, this was an issue of self-defense. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, when does Hulk Newsom not incite a riot? When does he go out there and try to not incite riots? Everybody wants to be the next Al Sharpton. We already had one Al Sharpton. We don't need another. We don't need another no good, doesn't do anything for the community hustler. We don't need anybody else like that. And that's exactly what he is. He has provided nothing of value except he is a hustler. A race hustler. He doesn't even offer product. Good night. Was this supposed to end differently if Jordan Ely was white? Would this have ended differently if Jordan Ely was white?
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No, I mean, as far as someone who's done.
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I think he would have gotten his ass beaten sooner, honestly.
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Maybe.
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I really do think he would have.
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I do know the media would have definitely treated it differently.
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I think the only reason that Daniel Penny waited so long was because Jordan Ealy was black. Because everyone knows that you've got Hawk Newsoms out there who are going to blow this up. It's so damn predictable. Good night. It's so predictable. No, if Jordan Ealy was white, he would have gotten his ass beaten faster. And he probably would have gotten whooped. This was just Daniel Penny restraining a violent and with a violent record thug who apparently grifters feel should be given a pass because he's black. And then this family that comes up. Man, now you know why Jordan Ealy was the way he was. Look at his family. Look at his dad coming up there. I miss my son. You deadbeat SOB. When were you even around him? You know, these records are public, right? Everybody knows he gave him up, right? He had nothing to do with him. Oh, he smells money. He's going to come out there to the press conference. Oh, I miss my dead gay son. He's going to come out there. Heather's quote. He's going to come out there to the press conference. Show up, make everybody feel sorry for him. Maybe they'll dry his tears to some hundreds. Trash. These people are trash. Daniel Penny deserved this justice. He absolutely deserved it. Do we have audio yet of the dad at the press conference? We were talking about that. Yeah, let's play that. We were talking about this last hour. This is his dad at the press conference.
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I miss my son. My son didn't have to go through this. I didn't have to go through this either. It hurts. Really, really hurts. What are we going to do, people? What's going to happen to us now? I had enough of this.
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The system is rigged.
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The system is rigged.
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Come on, people.
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Let's do something about this. Should be able to threaten people. Let's do something about it. What do you mean? You know what? That's something that should have been done about this. Was your grifting. Welfare ass being there to raise your son. That's when something should have been done about this, dad. You should have been a man and you should have stood up and raised your son. You should have been there for your child, dad. That's when something should have been done. You know when something should have been done, dad? Right when he first started being violent, dad. That's when you should have been there, dad. You don't get to, when you've been MIA his whole life, go, oh, I'm tired of this. You didn't do nothing to be tired of, you lazy grifter thug. You didn't even do anything to be tired about. And now you want to throw the whole city into chaos and drag the country with it? Because you all abandoned your son? You deadbeat with your deadbeat mom and the deadbeat family and the deadbeat friends. I didn't see any of them people around. Oh, he was asking for food. Where were you at? Your son was out there asking for food. Then on the subway, where were you, dad? Where were you at? Where was mom? Where were the uncles and the aunts? Where were they at? The cousins, the family, the friends, where were? Oh, no. Oh, but they're all there with hand out. Wanting a settlement. They're all there, hands out, wanting some cash. For what? Because they happen to be in their minds fortuitously related to to Jordan Ely, but they weren't there for his life. No, what needed to be done, you missed the boat, Dad. You missed it multiple times throughout his life. So you don't get to come out now and be like, I don't even think he misses him. He didn't even sound sad. Of course, how could he be? He had no relationship with him. He didn't even know him. He just shows up in the aftermath. Hell, are they even sure it's his dad? Does anybody know? No. This deserves ridicule. You know why it deserves ridicule? Because there's another man who did the right thing. And he stepped up. And he was vilified for it. Thankfully, those witnesses, they told the, I mean, well, they were all in fear of their lives. They told the truth about what happened. Black and white. That's the other thing. All these race grifters out there. Do you realize the number of black innocent subway passengers who were testifying? They were scared, too. Do you think Jordan Neely was drawing a distinction between black and white when he was targeting and threatening people? No, he wasn't. You excuse this by acting like he was or by acting like he was the victim of some kind of like racial animus. He wasn't. There were black passengers on that subway who thought they were terrified, too. He was threatening them also. It is evil and soulless to make this about race. You are endorsing random violence against people by doing so. I hope people see through this. I really hope that they do. Every Democrats desperately need some they need something as a starter to light the fire and cause massive destabilization going into January. That's their M.O. every single time. And they're hoping this is it. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments, you can trust all family pharmacy has you covered, whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support or general well-being. All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So maybe pot noodle wasn't the best way to smuggle pot into prison. I just would think that if you're smuggling stuff into prison. I mean, I've seen Mayor of Kingstown. You know, it's a great show. I don't know if you've seen it or not. It's a great show. But I just feel like maybe. I don't know. That's maybe not the best way to. To go about getting stuff into prison. I don't know. By the way, everything froze, so I have no access to anything right now. So tell me, Cain, what is a pot noodle?
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A pot noodle? I guess it's one of those things you throw into a pot and includes noodles. And if it's Asian, then it'd probably be like a hot pot type situation. But the bottom line is... Okay, we're back in business. Okay, the bottom line is they thought it was food. It was not food.
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Can you OD on the... I mean, if you listen to all the Reefer Madness people, you can OD on it.
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On pot noodle?
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Yeah.
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The woman, Victoria Sked. She was hiding a lot of contraband on her person. MDMA, psychoactive substances, vials of steroids. Jeez. She was like a walking, you know, bodega. I was trying to say it like Jill Biden. It was really hard. But apparently it's like a huge operation. And they bring outside stuff into the prison. And anyway, yeah, she's in trouble. And apparently her whole ring of people are in trouble. A chemical spill at an Anheuser-Busch brewery in California led to an evacuation, according to CBS News. This Los Angeles Fire Department, they said it was a fire involving hazardous materials. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not as interested in this. I'm not. Oh, I want this one. No, this is not real. Is this real? What? The pit diaper.
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I was looking. It has its own website. Look, the link is right there. I provided the link. It's apparently... It looks like a comedy thing. It looks like something that you would see... How is it sold out?
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I don't believe this.
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Yeah, it's sold out.
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So the pit diaper... is if you've been to a concert and they said the scariest place isn't the mosh pit, it's the bathroom. And you don't have to brave that hellscape with a pit diaper powered by Depend. And it looks like a Chanel quilted leather with like a Lemmy kind of gold skull.
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Oh, man.
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And this is not real. Look at that. But it's from the liquid death people.
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If you're hard enough to go to the mosh pit, but not the bathroom, there's something wrong with you.
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Dude, have you been to, well, I know you've been to some of the die bar bathrooms.
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Yeah, I've been in mosh pits too.
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I'm pretty sure that you can get like all the diseases in the world. Just that's where Wu flu came from.
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Guys have the least what? What did you say?
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I don't know. Let's move to the next headline. Slap therapy. An alternative healer got 10 years in prison for the death of a woman at a slap therapy workshop. I mean, how is that a thing? It's slapping therapy. It was a 71-year-old diabetic woman who stopped taking insulin during one of his workshops. Was he telling her he was going to slap the diabetes out of her? The technique has its roots in Chinese medicine, but critics say that it's stupid because it's dumb. It is dumb. It's so dumb. So in addition to this, we also have Trump has been in France, and he was there for the reopening of the Notre Dame Cathedral. Because as you know, there was a huge fire that went through 2019, damaged a lot of stuff. They had to do this super comprehensive rebuild. And then they had it – this is the opening week, so a lot of fanfare the opening week. So he was there. He met with – Britain's Prince William. And it's they notice that Joe's not there. Joe's not there. They sent the White House sent Jill and Ashley. So they sent a drug addict who left her diary talking about her incestual showers with her dad in the flophouse mattress. And then they sent Jill Biden. to go there to the opening of this cathedral, I guess, in place of Biden, who clearly would not have been. I mean, he hasn't been doing well. It was bad when he was in Africa. It was bad when he was in Brazil. He's not been doing well. So they sent them instead. Trump would, though, if you see him, do we have this video of him? I don't know if you want to say – is he shaking hands with Macron or is he arm wrestling with Emmanuel Macron? I mean there's a difference there. He was meeting Emmanuel Macron, the French president. He was meeting with a number of other world leaders. They were treating him as though he is the de facto already president. I mean it's just the formality of the inauguration that remains. And so he shows up and he's meeting. This is when he's going in and he's going to be meeting with some of the world leaders. But they're already I mean, they're treating it like a state visit. I wanted to ask you this. I was thinking about this. I don't remember a time when a president elect was basically given the de facto because this was not Jill Biden going on this red carpet. This is Trump on the red carpet. He's going to break Emmanuel Macron's hand here. So this is like the second or third time that this has happened, by the way. But and I'll come back to that. Am I looking too far into it? Because I was thinking about this. I don't remember another world president-elect getting this kind of treatment like this. This normally would have been a function of the president, and Biden clearly is incapacitated. So Trump there just acting like the inauguration is a formality, right? That's what it seems like.
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I mean, think about it. How many times has it happened to where the president that is currently president, isn't the future president, but he was also a past president, right? So this four years in between Trump's two terms is a unique situation. So I think they're receiving him like a president in his second term. That's what it's looking like to me.
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Also, Europe is a very different place than it was when Trump was elected in 2016 because you had Angela Merkel, who is considered the powerhouse in Europe. And then you could you saw her disastrous policies that led to this continued influx of illegal immigrants from northern Africa into Europe. The rise of Islamism in Germany. A lot of bad stuff happened under Angela Merkel. She didn't want to pay just the minimum GDP into NATO because she wanted, I guess, the United States to treat Germany's defense as a welfare entity. You also this is pre-Brexit. Now, a lot of things have changed. Like Italy is no longer in chaos. You have strong conservative leadership there. You have growing conservative leadership in the European Union since we have to get along with it and pretend that it's a viable entity for now. You have also a lot of more conservative leadership in Austria. You have the rise of conservatism in Spain. They've been destroying the Socialist Party there. You even have Emmanuel Macron, whose government's been thrown into chaos because of elections, etc. There he lost a lot of footing as conservative as the French can get. It's a lot different from very, very far left Macron. And then you even have Keir Starmer, who is, you know, albeit a socialist ruling as prime minister of the UK. But he's had to sit here and start blasting the open borders of the UK. And because he's his party is taking a beating in the pollings. I mean, he's losing support dramatically. That's going to alter again the makeup of that of those political factions. So it is a very different Europe.
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Thanks for tuning in to today's edition of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast. If you haven't already, make sure to hit that subscribe button on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
A jury finds Daniel Penny not guilty in the death of Jordan Neely. Trump attended the reopening of the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris in what looked like an unofficial state visit. A rebel army in Syria topples the dictatorial regime of Bashar al-Assad. BLM leader Hawk Newsome calls for "black vigilantes" to get active following Daniel Penny's acquittal as Neely’s dad comes out of the woodwork. Trump hints at bipartisan legislation to protect “DREAMers” in the US. UK Police arrest a man for an offensive post on Facebook. Stephen Yates joins us to discuss the rebellion in Syria as Assad is exiled to Russia, Trump’s Notre Dame appearance and more.
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You're watching right now some of the Trump visit to France. Of course, we have the Daniel Penny trial today, the verdict which came in. And golly, Syria, we go away one weekend. Well, we didn't go away. We just had a weekend and all hell breaks loose. So welcome to the program. And that a lot to get into. Dana Lash here with you. We're at the top of this first hour. I want to jump into before we do all our greetings and salutations. The verdict in the Daniel Penny trial was just announced just a little bit ago and not guilty is the verdict. Of course, the promise of riots and everything else have already started. It wouldn't be a day that ended in Y if it wasn't for protests and threats of riots and everything else with this verdict. In fact, I was watching, and I don't know if we have it, if we can get it. It just happened, so I know we probably don't have it. His father, Jordan Ely's father, they had this press conference and they had some of these activists, some of the community leaders that got up there and they were making their remarks. And his father was like, I miss my son. And I miss my son and this shouldn't have to happen, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, his dad is a deadbeat dad who had nothing to do with him. He like he gave him up. He wasn't involved in his life at all. He didn't know that his son was on drugs. He didn't know any or maybe he did, but he didn't do anything. He knew nothing, nothing about Jordan Neely. Jordan Neely's dad knew nothing about him. He wasn't interested in him until Jordan Neely was dead. And then all of a sudden, oh, here comes the dad because he thinks that he can get some kind of something. He, boy, he thinks that he can really get some, maybe some money in a civil suit. And he gets up there. They also had Eric Garner's mom up there, which I thought you cannot compare Eric Garner to Jordan Neely. Those are two entirely stupidly different cases because Eric Garner, if you remember, was the man who was put into a hold. And he was he was first a police first went up to him because he was selling loose cigarettes. Right. Remember the whole Lucy law in New York. So in New York. Because New York wants to get its tax dollars. They made it to where you could no longer sell singular cigarettes. And this was what the city council did. So they decided that they were going to enforce in a harsher manner the new criminal statute that the city council had proposed because they didn't want people. They wanted New York to be able to get its tax dollars from the sale of Of these cigarettes. And so when they first showed up, there had been the report of an altercation. And that's why police showed up in the first place, because there was an altercation. And then they see Eric Garner there. And remember, all the people that got mad at the cops, who was it that actually passed the law that nobody got mad at? Who was it that passed the law that actually did the thing that made it to where they were demanding stronger police enforcement? Who was it? Because it wasn't the police. The police don't pass those laws. Do you think that the police wanted to pass laws for themselves that were forcing them to have to, in a more insane manner, police things like loose cigarettes? They didn't want to do that. In fact, you can see that Juan was showing you on the simulcast there. That was the guy who was in the sock hat is Jordan Neely's dad. And then they have Eric Garner's mom and everybody's standing right there. So when police first got involved and they first showed up and they were engaging with Eric Garner. They were doing that on behalf of the tougher, stricter laws. And that was under Michael Bloomberg when he was still mayor. That's when all of that happened. Nobody was protesting the nobody was protesting the people at City Hall, the city council. Nobody was doing that. No one was protesting them. And it was those were the ones who did that. So I bring that up because this idea that Daniel Penny, who is defending himself and others, is that Jordan Neely is the same as Eric Garner is stupid. I don't think Eric Garner should have been should have been approached by cops in the first place. But that was the cops fault. That was the city council's fault. That was the local politician, Democrat politician's fault in New York City for demanding that there be these super strict, dumb laws about the sale of loose cigarettes so that Manhattan could get their tax money. That was something that city council did, not the cops. So Eric Garner, you can't even compare him to Jordan Ely. Jordan Ely was an evil thug who targeted women and children. He was an absolute monster who targeted women and children. And if it wasn't going to be Daniel Penny, it was going to be someone else. Maybe, I don't know, all the people out there, they would have been happy if he would have followed through on his threats and murdered that mom and baby on the train because those were the people that he was getting in their faces. He was getting in the faces of some other folks. Interestingly enough, when you read all of the witness accounts, it was all women that he was really trying to target because he sounds like a woman hater. This guy was a violent, evil thug. And I think violent, evil thugs, if the state of New York, if the city of Manhattan, if they're not going to do anything to protect the people, then by God, you've got to allow people to protect themselves and each other. If you don't want vigilantism, then do your damn job. And this was all because Jordan Neely's grifting thug family abandoned him. Had no idea what he was doing at all, but they smell money. They're all sniffing around like the grifters they are. Absolute trash humans. His whole family's trash. You're not even going to be around until what till he's dead. And now now you're going to act all sad. I don't think so. This is one of the things that we're watching today. We got a lot more on this this verdict, especially now as because he's acquitted. And I guess somebody had to change a heart over the weekend because there was a little bit of concern that he wasn't going to be. I mean, they were going into four days of deliberations. So in addition to this, we also have Trump is in has been in France. And he was there for the reopening of the Notre Dame, the Notre Dame Cathedral. Because as you know, there was a huge fire that went through 2019, damaged a lot of stuff. They had to do this, this super comprehensive rebuild. And then they, they had it. This is the opening week. So a lot of fanfare, the opening week. So he's, he was there. He met with, uh, Britain's Prince William. And it's they notice that Joe's not there. Joe's not there. They sent the White House sent Jill and Ashley. So they sent a drug addict who left her diary talking about her incestual showers with her dad in the flophouse mattress. And then they sent Jill Biden. to go there to the opening of this cathedral, I guess, in place of Biden, who clearly would not have been. I mean, he hasn't been doing well. It was bad when he was in Africa. It was bad when he was in Brazil. He's not been doing well. So they sent them instead. Trump would, though, if you see him, do we have this video of him? I don't know if you want to say is he shaking hands with Macron or is he arm wrestling with Emmanuel Macron? I mean, there's a there's a difference there. He was meeting Emmanuel Macron, the French president. He was meeting with a number of other world leaders. They were treating him as though he is the de facto already president. You know, I mean, it's just the it's just the the formality of the inauguration that remains there. And so he shows up and he's meeting. This is when he's going in and he's going to be meeting with some of the world leaders. But they're already I mean, they're treating it like a state visit. I wanted to ask you this. I was thinking about this. I don't remember a time when a president elect was basically given the de facto because this was not Jill Biden going on this red carpet. This is Trump on the red carpet. He's going to break Emmanuel Macron's hand here. So this is like the second or third time that this has happened, by the way. But and I'll come back to that. Am I looking too far into it? Because I was thinking about this. I don't remember another world president-elect getting this kind of treatment like this. This normally would have been a function of the president, and Biden clearly is incapacitated. So Trump there just acting like the inauguration is a formality, right? That's what it seems like.
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I mean, think about it. How many times has it happened to where the president That is currently president isn't the future president, but he was also a past president, right? So this, this four years in between Trump's two terms is a unique situation. So I think they're receiving him like a president in his second term. That's what it's looking like to me.
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Also, Europe is a very different place than it was when Trump was elected in 2016, because you had Angela Merkel, who is considered the powerhouse in Europe. And then you could you saw her disastrous policies that led to this continued influx of illegal immigrants from northern Africa into Europe. The rise of Islamism in Germany. A lot of bad stuff happened under Angela Merkel. She didn't want to pay just the minimum GDP into NATO because she wanted, I guess, the United States to treat Germany's defense as a welfare entity. You also this is pre-Brexit. Now, a lot of things have changed. Like Italy is no longer in chaos. You have strong conservative leadership there. You have growing conservative leadership in the European Union since we have to get along with it and pretend that it's a viable entity for now. You have also a lot of more conservative leadership in Austria. You have the rise of conservatism in Spain. They've been destroying the Socialist Party there. You even have Emmanuel Macron, whose government's been thrown into chaos because of elections, etc. There he lost a lot of footing as conservative as the French can get. It's a lot different from very, very far left Macron. And then you even have Keir Starmer, who is, you know, albeit a socialist ruling as prime minister of the UK. But he's had to sit here and start blasting the open borders of the UK. And because he's his party is taking a beating in the pollings. I mean, he's losing support dramatically. That's going to alter again the makeup of that of those political factions. So it is a very different Europe. Interesting. We got a lot to dive into because we've got this. We not only have latest domestically, but we got to talk about the issue of Syria and Lindsey Graham. already beating the war drums. Of course he is. But we're going to get into all of that, get you up to speed so you know who the players are in Syria, why the United States shouldn't be involved in it at all whatsoever, and then the implications that this has as the transition of Trump into the White House after Biden, what all that means coming up in January. So we have a lot to get into. And of course, plus the ongoing, we got our eyes on the reaction to the Daniel Penny verdict and the threats of and all of that stuff. Black Rifle Coffee Company, look, I love their coffee because I'm really picky. Starbucks tastes horrible. A lot of the other coffee companies out there that say they roast their beans here in the USA, they don't. They get it from Canada or Brazil and then they put a sticker on a pre-roasted bag and then they sell it like it's fresh. Let's be real. Black Rifle Coffee doesn't do that. Veteran owned, veteran operated. They hire active duty and vets and retired. And they just do they do a really good job. And they're nerds about coffee. And I'm glad that they're nerds about coffee because I don't want to know how it's made. I just want it to taste good. And Black Rifle Coffee has so many amazing roasts. They have their Freedom Roast right now, which is totally what the Founding Fathers would have drank if Black Rifle Coffee had anachronistically existed back in the times of our founders. They totally would have. You know, Washington would have had a cup a day more. You can save 20% using code Dana at BlackRifleCoffee.com. Every sip of the Freedom Roast is a celebration of liberty and a tribute to those who fought for our awesome republic. You can subscribe to their coffee club, get your free shipping, automated orders sent straight to your doorstep, and never, ever, ever run out of your favorite coffee. No need for last-minute trips. And if you're stocked up on coffee but you still need some Christmas ideas, they've got a whole bean, K-cups, ready-to-drink apparel, kettles, grinders, mugs, and more. Their apparel is really popular, by the way, with the young dudes, too. So just an idea. So get your freedom on with the Freedom Roast. Check out the merch at BlackRifleCoffee.com and taste all their top shelf roasts like Just Black, Silence or Smooth, always a favorite. Whatever you decide, though, 20% off with Code Dana. 20% off Code Dana, BlackRifleCoffee.com.
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Ah, yes. All right. First up. That was I know our Christmas song. You got to start with baby. It's cold outside. You have to. Google is suing to stop the United States from monitoring it like a bank. Maybe it should be less evil. Isn't that their slogan? Literally, isn't it? The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. announced on Friday that it had placed Google Payment Corp under federal supervision. The company filed a lawsuit to block the bureau's order, which could result in routine inspections and monitoring those imposed on banks, on the banking industry. They found that Google's error resolution and fraud prevention processes pose risks to customers, citing customer complaints about the Google Pay balance and their peer-to-peer payments. And so they're going out. I'm not opposed. I mean, they should have to play like everybody else. CNN had the lowest week in ratings in decades last week. The absolute lowest. Super low. And the age, that magical group, 25 to 54, it was the lowest number of viewers that they've had in almost 30 years. 30 years. They got about 260,000 viewers per day. How in the hell we get more listeners than that? We get millions of listeners a day. And we do know this factually. I am shocked that they get 260,000 viewers per day. This is at the end of November. How in the world are they open? They have a huge headquarters in Atlanta. How do they keep those doors open? How are you selling ads on that? Golly, that's the lowest ratings that they've had in 30 years. Burglars dressed as gardeners have been targeting San Bernardino homes, according to KTLA. They've been dressing up as lawn care experts and then they get out and then they've been robbing people. A secret Pentagon study is hinting at reincarnation being real after finding that consciousness never dies. It's kind of an old study and it's talking about like cellular life, but not the same thing. Stick with us. The thing that aggravates me People are like, well, I just don't want to go into a gun-free zone. That's great. I would love to have that luxury. I don't. I have a job that requires me to go places where I can't always carry because I've got a roof to keep over my head and people to feed and bills to pay, just like everybody else. But I am not going to make myself defenseless. I am not one of those people who have any issue using lethal force, protecting themselves or their loved ones, and I will always encourage you to carry. I also think that you need to have a diversified array at your disposal so that you're ready for any type of situation. And this is where the burner gun comes in. It's a non firearm firearm. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. And when you compare it to regular like stun guns. They have like one or two shots. Berna SD, their most popular selling model, has five rounds. And it gives you a defensive option when the state or a private entity is trying to deny you of a force multiplier, a way to defend yourself. There's no background check. There's no waiting period. It's illegal in all 50 states and they can ship it right to your front door. It also does not care about gun-free zone signs. So when your options of defense are limited, the Burna gun is a great alternate choice. So check it out. You can visit Burna.com slash Dana. That's the only place where you can get 10% off. I mean, you can buy it elsewhere, but you're not going to get a 10% discount unless you go through Burna.com slash Dana. That's B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana for 10% off.
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With a new constitution, a new government that serves all Syrians, this process will be determined by the Syrian people themselves. The United States will do whatever we can to support them, including through humanitarian relief to help restore Syria after more than a decade of war. and generational brutality by this odd family.
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Well, I don't even know what that means, and I don't think he does either. That was Joe Biden saying that he's going to send aid to the new regime to rebuild Syria. Well, who the hell is the new regime? I mean, we know the players in this, right? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you here at the bottom of this first hour. And that's one of the things, obviously, that we've been watching happen over in the Middle East. The Arab League was trying to negotiate. That kind of fell apart. This has really been the worst, though, for the Ayatollah and the mullahs over in Iran. It's really been the worst for them and the worst for Russia because you've had Bashar al-Assad The, you know, described as a very brutalist leader of the regime for, you know, the past couple of decades was educated in London, married a British born wife, goes back. He wasn't even supposed to lead Syria. His brother was. His brothers killed a car crash in Damascus. They called him back. They basically put him through tyrant training. And then he ended up running Syria and he was backed by Russia and Iran. Now, as long as things were stable for both Russia and Iran, the Assad regime in Syria had muscle because that's who kept them in power. You know, the Russians sent military might and the Iranians sent money. And of course, they had the assistance of Hezbollah and Hamas. But see, after Russia got itself mired in this fight, four-year battle now with Ukraine, and then Iran decided to FAFO with Israel, and Israel's crushing Hamas in the south and crushing Hezbollah in the north and Lebanon, that really exposed Syria. It exposed the Assad regime's weak point, and that They were relying entirely on that trifecta. But that was kind of Iran's goal, though. They wanted to create in this mostly Sunni Arab world, the Persian Shiite Muslim population of Iran and going into Lebanon and going into Syria. They wanted to have this this crescent. of military might and muscle and control. They wanted to be the influential entity. And Iran really needed Syria. They used them for a lot of things. So, excuse me, still recovering from being under the weather, as I told you all last week. But now with Iran compromised and Russia compromised, who's going to be propping up Assad? And it's not like there are good choices here. Everyone's like, oh, Bashar al-Assad's a butcher. Have you seen the people coming in to Syria? You know they're terrorists, right? They're old terrorists. They're just a different type of terrorist. There's no regime to be throwing money at. I know Biden loves to throw cash at terrorists like, you know, his son at a strip club. But that's not how this works. They're still terrorists. They are. So I don't know. You're going to have something. I mean, nothing's going to change. You're going to have a more brutalist, perhaps, entity sweep through. I mean, not that Bashar al-Assad wasn't. There just aren't any good choices here. It doesn't help that you have Lindsey Graham. Good night. Lindsey Graham. Loves war drums. And he gets very excited about the prospect of showing off war ink. And so he had, I'm not going to read this whole thing, this whole post at X where he said he was talking about airstrikes against ISIS targets in Syria. That's not going to be enough. And he said that there's 50,000 ISIS prisoners in northeastern Syria that are held by Kurdish forces and they can't be released. He said we should not allow Kurdish forces who helped us destroy ISIS on Trump's watch be threatened by Turkey or the radical Islamists who have taken over Syria. And I think that's a legitimate point. Not that we need to do it because we're the hell's Arab League. You know, if this is really ultimately a battle between Sunni and Shia, then then. Sunni and Shiite, why are we involved? This is the Arab League that will handle this. If Sunnis want to control everything, then let them battle it out. If Shiite want to push back, then let them battle it out. Now, I get the argument that The last time ISIS was in charge, and this was what Graham was saying, thousands of Europeans and Americans were killed by ISIS plots that originated in Syria. They don't want Syria to become a hotbed of whatever. Where have I heard this before? Oh, we've got to send our people over there so that we can weed out any terrorists and prevent that area from becoming a terrorist hotspot, from becoming a communist hotspot, they said, of Vietnam. From becoming a terrorist hotspot, they said, in South America. From becoming a terrorist hotspot, they said, in Iraq, one, two, and maybe three. They said in Afghanistan. I mean, when does it stop? Yemen. Where do we stop? Right? When does it stop? I don't think that's working, is it? Also, how far tinfoil do you want me to go? Just a little bit. I am... Endlessly amused. Because I look at when Barack Obama was president. This is, you know, back in 08, going all the way up into, you know, 2016. And it really seems as though this is a regime change similar to Libya. In a way. I'm not saying the people or the brutality is the same. But it has the hallmarks of that kind of flip. Like it has the hallmarks of other entities being involved. Like these other entities help kind of pin everything down until they could destabilize it. Interestingly enough, right, as Trump is going into office. Just saying. Now keep it quiet while Obama doesn't do anything for, you know, eight years. Keep it relatively, you know, kind of quiet, not really, you know, sort of, or at least not in the news under Biden. Oh, no, no, just let it all pop off now that Trump's coming into office. Right. I mean, do you I'm not going to pretend that we don't have any CIA assets or anything like that. There's not some like CIA Mossad kind of joint venture over there. Come on. Let's look. These people are literally driving in with crappy AKs and Toyotas. All right. This is the same type of terrorist group like what the Taliban when they were rolling through Afghanistan, getting towns to declare surrender via WhatsApp. This is not like it's a highly sophisticated venture, okay? It's who can be the biggest terrorist thug. That's what it is. It's a competition. So I feel like, and I've always felt like this about this region. I haven't really talked a ton about Syria just because it's been kind of ongoing and it's not related directly to U.S. interests. But they're trying to make it like that because they're going to try to say that Trump abandoned people in Syria and they want to be able to have a narrative on a Republican president. I feel like after the narrative about Barack Obama abandoning the Iranians during the Green Revolution, remember all of that as it was following the Arab Spring? Just saying. It feels like that's what... I'm just saying it feels like that's what it's gearing up to. It feels like that. I mean, how... These now all of a sudden now. you have this major shift. They said Assad's now in Moscow. He's been given – they brought him to Moscow, and he's in exile basically in Moscow now, he and his family. And I was reading that some Russian government officials told the Russian press that he got there Sunday. I don't know. I think he maybe got there sooner. So that means – that signals that he's not going to stay and fight it out. Of course, how is he going to? Russia's already abandoned it. They've already been pulling out whatever assets they have in Syria to help bolster what they're doing with Ukraine. Iran's like losing its mind because now they look like their regime looks very, very tenuous. You have the destruction of Hamas, the destruction of Hezbollah. You have Israeli tanks rolling through. They're not playing around. Imagine if they would have listened to the advice of Democrats in the United States and not done what they did with the assault against Hezbollah in the north. All of this, I doubt it would have been exposed as fast. I think that day was coming, but I doubt it would have been exposed as fast. But to go back to my point with Libya, because it very much... Reminds me of that. And I think that this it's it's a it's kind of a regime change. But also, I mean, there there isn't I mean, there isn't a good choice. And with Gaddafi, I think that there was less of a threat in keeping him in. As opposed to Assad, because Assad is very important to the Shiite crescent of power. It's incredibly important to that. And now, you know, now they're all reduced to just giving them asylum in Moscow. This is one of the things we're going to talk to Stephen Yates about because this also implicates China. Now, China never really looked at Syria as as though it was a very important cog in the machine. But Syria was part of China's Belt and Road Initiative. And China was they wanted to have that association. Of course, they also are friendly with Russia. They're friendly with Iran. Now, think about it. You have the Shiite crescent of power and they are trying to push back against the Sunni Muslim influence. Interesting what this means for China as well. So I don't know. I, I, I feel like. This is it just reminds me so much of all of that with Gaddafi. Now, you guys remember with Libya and Gaddafi, that was Hillary Clinton, secretary of state. She really stepped in it. I this she is for all of her ambition and certain things she is intelligent about. She was moronic about, either she was an idiot about geopolitical alliances in Egypt and Libya and Northern Africa, or she just did it because she was a chaos agent. She was a destabilizing factor. Because remember, when Egypt was having their election, she went in back, this was, what was this, like 2010, 2011? She went in and was backing the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, which had been exercised from the country. They ran the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egypt. They looked at them as a terrorist entity. she helped ingratiate them back into Egypt very briefly before they were run out again. And you remember the Arab Spring. After Hillary Clinton's involvement, that's when all hell broke loose. And then, of course, you see the destabilization. And she has, what was his name? Her friend. Blumenthal? Yeah. Sidney Blumenthal. He worked with the Clinton Foundation. Sidney Blumenthal. And he was one of many of her, of the Clinton's associates. He was, remember, he was accused of writing intelligence that he had sent to Hillary Clinton, etc. He got paid a lot. He was a full-time employee of the Clinton Foundation. The New York Times had a story. This was like back in 2015. He turned over all his memos on Libya. He wanted to be there on the ground floor to undercut the Gaddafi regime. And he wanted to be part of instituting a new regime in Libya. And Clinton was going to have her fingerprints all over it. And it all blew up because they're morons and they didn't realize how entrenched ISIS was. That was all. That was the United States helped create that destabilization in Libya. Not that Syria isn't destabilized, but why in the hell are any Republicans talking about getting involved and backing a new regime? Why is Biden? Why do Biden and Lindsey Graham sound the same on this? We've got a lot to discuss. We've got days of these United States coming up. Our partners at Caltech, the P-15. Standard capacity, 15 rounds. I highly recommend the P-15, especially if you're looking for a concealed carry striker fire pistol. This is from the inventors of the micro compact pistol category. Striker fire reliability. It is the P-15. Stands for 15 PEWS. I mean, maybe not the PEW part, but 15 rounds. Comes with two standard capacity magazines. 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Well, hey, everybody. It's Friday all day, as my Nana would say. And look what I have on my lip. Everybody's been saying, you have herpes, you have herpes all this time. And I never had a cold sore in my life. And now I have a cold sore. And it makes me think that perhaps this weird pimple that had a tiny little head was a cold sore, too. And so I talked to my doctor today, and I did a video telehealth. And they said that... It's not a cold sore. It's some reaction to the sun. Now, I did sit in the sun yesterday, but I had sunscreen on. So, I don't know. I will let you know tomorrow if I do, in fact, have herpes.
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Who cares? Who does this stuff? You see this sore on my mouth? Does it look like a herpes? Yeah, I'm going to let you know tomorrow. I'm going to watch. I'm going to herpes watch. Who does this kind of stuff? She's so weird. I cannot, this is not what, you know what, the internet, this is not what it was made for. It really, I mean, maybe in your neck of the woods, you know, you want to do that. That's, I don't know. I just, that's so, who does that? Who does that? That's so nasty. That's so nasty. You don't have to just, I sat on the sun yesterday. Like, does she just not have anything to do in life anymore? That she just does, she just, random, like, oversharing. Everybody has, you guys know you all have like that grandma or that great aunt or aunt, your auntie in your family, the oversharing auntie. You guys know exactly what I'm talking about because y'all have one. Y'all know, right? You all know. I had a, oh gosh, it's going to take everything I have. So I had a family member, God rest her soul. Her big thing was offering Imodium to everyone at like family events. events right like because she thought it was a like a healthy part of cola i don't know is the weirdest thing like she would try to ascertain if you were on the reg you know what i mean and then she would either offer you a modium or whatever colase or whatever the thing that she was on oh my gosh non like Just had no problem going up to cousins. If a cousin brought a girlfriend or a boyfriend, you know, it doesn't matter. You know, they're in, you're here at the table too. We're going to ask you, you know, going to ask you about your co-lace habits. Do you need any? Do you? I'm like, why? Who does this? Rosie O'Donnell's that person. All right. So we have more from our Christmified set. I'm in blue today. It's rare. Make sure you tune in. Keep tuning in. Next hour on the way. Life can take a toll on our bodies. There's no way around it. And whether it's just sitting for hours on end at your computer or if you're working a physical job, over time, your body pays the price. There is, however, an effective way to turn back the clock on pain. Relief Factor. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor helps support your body's response to inflammation. And the difference, instead of just masking pain, Relief Factor helps eliminate it for good. And it's 100% drug-free. My husband, Chris, has taken Relief Factor with incredible results. So if the pains that come with living a full life are affecting you, do as many others have done and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. Their three-week quick start is just $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. And when you feel good, it's amazing how much more you get out of life. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Try it for only $19.95 and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. Oh, I thought we were welcome. We got this video I wanted to play for you. That's BLM. If we can pull this up. I have it actually on Twitter. If you could get my audio up. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you at the top of the second hour. I have this. I'm going to get this going for you. This is some of the audio from Hawk Newsome, the guy who founded BLM of Greater New York. And he's calling. I mean, listen to his threats. He's calling for vigilantism in this audio.
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Oh, okay. If you guys can't hear that, this is Hawk Newsome. He founded this. If we can get this audio. He founded this. BLM of Greater New York. And...
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You can hear some of this audio here. When they attempt to oppress us. I'm tired. We need some.
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So this is just one of the one of the examples of BLM now demanding that apparently, I guess, as some kind of payment for Daniel Penny being found not guilty that now he's calling for a race war. He said, quote, people want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud. How about we do the same? We need some black vigilantes. First off, and again, welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. That's not how Jordan, that's not what happened with the situation of Jordan Ely. Why are they lying about and omitting that he was threatening to kill people on that subway platform? Why is Hawk Newsome, who sounds like the name of a Jeremy Clarkson bear, Why is he pretending that Jordan Neely wasn't getting in the faces of women and their children and elderly people and anyone else on that subway platform and threatening to kill them and becoming more and more irate and getting closer and closer to them? That wasn't just Jordan Neely being loud. And, uh, or asking for food. That was Jordan Neely, who by every black and white witness that was on that subway platform said, yes, he absolutely was threatening to kill people. That's what they testified to. He was threatening to kill people. So Hawk Newsome believes that Jordan Neely should be free to kill people, punch elderly women in the face, shove women under train tracks and try to kidnap seven-year-olds because he's black. That's what Hawk Newsome believes. Hawk Newsome believes that if your skin color should determine whether or not you can just assault and threaten to murder people and maybe even murder people, why the hell not? He thinks that apparently that's a right to a specific skin color in the United States, as though this would have happened any differently if Jordan Neely was white. Because Hawk Newsome is a thug racist. He's an absolute racist. That's why he is just I mean, that's exactly what it is, what he is. That's just, like, good golly, it's 2024. You think that Jordan Ely would have, what do you think? I cannot believe that anyone in their right mind would think that if Jordan Ely were white, that would have been acceptable. Oh, did you hear that man who was threatening to murder people and he got in the face of the woman and she's trying to protect her baby in a stroller and he's threatening to kill her? Well, was he white?
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's all right then. Really? Really? I mean, that says more about those people than it does about the people they're making the assumption about. And now this claim that, well, he got killed because he asked for some food or he got killed just because he was loud. No, that's not what happened at all. These people weren't there. The witnesses who testified were. They're rewriting this to try to make Jordan Neely some sort of hero, some sort of innocent. Daniel Penny was forced into the position that he was forced into. He was forced to use skills that he had learned as a veteran because of New York City. New York's lawlessness and disorder forced him into this position. It forced the people on that subway to cower in fear. It allowed Jordan Neely to freely threaten people until the point at which somebody had to do something because someone was going to get hurt. Where is the concern of this family for the woman that Jordan Neely punched in the face and broke her nose, the elderly woman? Because he had a warrant out for his arrest, by the way, at the time of his death for that. What did she do to get her face punched in? I noticed that the family, all these grifters who just decide to just show up, they didn't have a press conference for that woman. Can't a woman ride a subway in New York without getting punched in the face? People want to jump up and punch elderly women? What did she do? Did she ask for food? Was she loud? Or what about the seven-year-old that Jordan Ely was on video trying to drag down an alley? What did that seven-year-old do? Where's the family and all these grifting racist hustlers out there? Where are they all at? What did that seven-year-old do? Or what about the woman he tried shoving onto the train tracks? What did she do? I mean, how long do women have to take abuse from people like Jordan Neely before people grifting racist hustlers like wannabe Al Sharpton, Hawk Newsome, before they finally come to the realization that, OK, well, I guess, you know, I guess we're even now. Who who allowed you to determine that these people and abusing these people was was the way to make yourself feel equal or validated? I mean, this was an issue of self-defense. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, when does Hulk Newsome not incite a riot? When does he go out there and try to not incite riots? Everybody wants to be the next Al Sharpton. We already had one Al Sharpton. We don't need another. We don't need another no good, doesn't do anything for the community hustler. We don't need anybody else like that. And that's exactly what he is. He has provided nothing of value except he is a hustler. A race hustler. He doesn't even offer product. Good night. Was this supposed to end differently if Jordan Ely was white? Would this have ended differently if Jordan Ely was white?
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No, I mean, as far as someone who's done.
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I think he would have gotten his ass beaten sooner, honestly.
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Maybe.
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I really do think he would have.
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I do know the media would have definitely treated it differently.
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I think the only reason that Daniel Penny waited so long was because Jordan Ealy was black. Because everyone knows that you've got Hawk Newsoms out there who are going to blow this up. It's so damn predictable. Good night. It's so predictable. No, if Jordan Ealy was white, he would have gotten his ass beaten faster. And he probably would have gotten his whooped. This was just Daniel Penny restraining a violent and with a violent record thug who apparently grifters feel should be given a pass because he's black. And then this family that comes up. Man, now you know why Jordan Ealy was the way he was. Look at his family. Look at his dad coming up there. I miss my son. You deadbeat SOB. When were you even around him? You know, these are records are public, right? Y'all, everybody knows he gave him up, right? He had nothing to do with him. Oh, he smells money. He's going to come out there to the press conference. Oh, I miss my dead gay son. He's going to come out there. Heather's quote. He's going to come out there to the press conference. Show up, make everybody feel sorry for him. Maybe they'll dry his tears with some hundreds. Trash. These people are trash. Daniel Penny deserved this justice. He absolutely deserved it. We got this. Do we have audio of his? Do we have audio yet of the dad at the press conference? We were talking about that. Yeah, let's play that. We're talking about this last hour. This is his dad at the press conference.
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I miss my son. My son didn't have to go through this. I didn't have to go through this either. It hurts. Really, really hurts. What are we going to do, people? What's going to happen to us now?
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I had enough of this. The system is rigged.
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The system is rigged.
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Come on, people.
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Let's do something about this. Should be able to threaten people. Let's do something about it. What do you mean? You know what? That's something that should have been done about this. Was your grifting... Welfare ass being there to raise your son. That's when something should have been done about this, dad. You should have been a man and you should have stood up and raised your son. You should have been there for your child, dad. That's when something should have been done. You know when something should have been done, dad? Right when he first started being violent, dad. That's when you should have been there, dad. You don't get to, when you've been MIA his whole life, go, oh, I'm tired of this. You didn't do nothing to be tired of, you lazy grifter thug. You didn't even do anything to be tired about. And now you want to throw the whole city into chaos and drag the country with it? Because you all abandoned your son? You deadbeat with your deadbeat mom and the deadbeat family and the deadbeat friends. I didn't see any of them people around. Oh, he was asking for food. Where were you at? Your son was out there asking for food. Then on the subway, where were you, dad? Where were you at? Where was mom? Where were the uncles and the aunts? Where were they at? The cousins, the family, the friends, where were? Oh, no. Oh, but they're all there with hand out. Wanting a settlement. They're all there, hands out, wanting some cash. For what? Because they happen to be, in their minds, fortuitously related to to Jordan Ely, but they weren't there for his life. No, what needed to be done, you missed the boat, Dad. You missed it multiple times throughout his life. So you don't get to come out now and be like, I don't even think he misses him. He didn't even sound sad. Of course, how could he be? He had no relationship with him. He didn't even know him. He just shows up in the aftermath. Hell, are they even sure it's his dad? Does anybody know? No. This deserves ridicule. You know why it deserves ridicule? Because there's another man who did the right thing. And he stepped up. And he was vilified for it. Thankfully, those witnesses, they were all in fear of their lives. They told the truth about what happened. Black and white. That's the other thing. All these race grifters out there. Do you realize the number of black innocent subway passengers who were testifying? They were scared, too. Do you think Jordan Neely was drawing a distinction between black and white when he was targeting and threatening people? No, he wasn't. You excuse this by acting like he was or by acting like he was the victim of some kind of like racial animus. He wasn't. There were black passengers on that subway who thought they were terrified, too. He was threatening them also. It is evil and soulless to make this about race. You are endorsing random violence against people by doing so. I hope people see through this. I really hope that they do. Democrats desperately need something as a starter to light the fire and cause massive destabilization going into January. That's their M.O. every single time. And they're hoping this is it. It's infuriating. I'm glad justice was prevented. Actually, you know what? This wasn't even justice. This never should have been in court in the first place. Daniel Penny never should have been charged. Ever. We got a lot more on the way. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, All Family Pharmacy has you covered. Whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support, or general well-being, All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages. designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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You guys remember Fat Joe? So Fat Joe at one point weighed like 500 pounds. Apparently he's lost over 200 pounds. He said he did so on Ozempic because he has apparently, I guess he deals with diabetes. He's just Joe now. He's not Fat Joe anymore, dude. He's just Joe. What? I'm not saying this to be mean. His head's still the same size. It is. Don't be like a lollipop. Don't be like them Hollywood starlets though, Joe. Where they lose all their weight and then they've got their head, regular sized head on their little thin skinny body. So don't be like that. Don't get thin and skinny. Nobody wants that. Yeah, gosh, he just looks like he could blow him over just by blowing at him. He falls over. I don't know. Anyway, I had to share that because I was shocked when I saw that. Shooketh. Let's see. Traffic chaos is caused by 30 pounds of melted chocolate on a Bay Area highway. Oh, man. Ooh, that looks really bad. The photos look really bad. This big rig was carrying chocolate in East Bay, caught fire Friday morning. Tons of tons and tons and tons of chaos. They said it was 618 a.m., so right during rush hour, you know. And it was a mechanical issue at first that the truck's brakes on fire, then it spread to the rest of the truck. Can I just say that I bet it smelled real good? You know, that whole area smelled like melted chocolate. Do you think anybody tried to, like, I don't know, touch a marshmallow and some graham cracker up on that? I'm just wondering. I'm just asking because you know y'all thought it. Young men are making risky bets on crypto and politics and raking it in right now. Well, this is the time when you're young. It's to be risky with stuff like that. That's the time to do it. So, I don't know. Nissan has slashed U.S. production as bankruptcy looms. Damn, maybe don't be all dumb about EVs and you won't have to worry about that. We got a lot more on the way. Trump and DACA next. our partners over at Preborn, a great organization that helps women make the choice of life when they are faced with an unexpected or unplanned pregnancy. And when a woman hears When a mother hears her baby's heartbeat, sees the ultrasound, that baby's chance at life doubles. And so you can save a life this Christmas. It starts at just $28. And when you donate $28 to Preborn, you're supporting women and babies in need, providing vital care and resources. And you can even consider making a larger life-changing donation as well. You can save countless babies, maximize your end of year tax deduction. And right now they're doubling donations with a special matching grant. So your donation goes twice as far. And Preborn, they are a great, trustworthy organization. Your contributions, it's tax deductible. They have, you know, the top rating where it concerns charitable organizations. You can trust that your money is going exactly where they say that it's going. I mean, they got the proof is in the pudding. You can see they talk about and you can meet some of these women that receive these ultrasounds because they make a huge life changing decision. It's so easy to donate. So easy. You just dial pound or, you know, hashtag donation. 250 and you say the keyword baby that's it and you're donating uh to pre-born that simply you can also visit preborn.com slash dana to donate every contribution counts it doesn't matter how big doesn't matter how small you could be buying an ultrasound for a mother today you could be putting an ultrasound machine in a pre-born clinic tomorrow uh just dial pound 250 say the keyword baby you can also donate securely at preborn.com slash dana
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The dreamers are going to come later, and we have to do something about the dreamers because these are people that have been brought here. at a very young age, and many of these are middle-aged people now. They don't even speak the language of their country, and yes, we're going to do something about the dreamers. What does that mean? What are you going to do? I will work with the Democrats on a plan, and if we can come up with a plan, but the Democrats have made it very, very difficult to do anything. Republicans are very open to the dreamers. The dreamers, we're talking many years ago they were brought into this country, many years ago. Some of them are no longer young people, and In many cases, they become successful. They have great jobs. In some cases, they have small businesses. In some cases, they might have large businesses. And we're going to have to do something with them.
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You want them to be able to stay. That's what you're not addressing. If they're able to create businesses and make successes, why the hell could they not file for citizenship on top of it? Especially with the implementation of DACA, they were prevented from deportation for a good long period if they were doing so. So that doesn't answer the question. It doesn't solve the problem. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this second hour. That's that's what's being missed here. I mean, if you're able, no one's faulting people for being children and drug across the border against their own free will by their parents or whatever. But that's where that stops. They will you. There is culpability. When you as an adult, you're if you can create a business and you can go through the process of licensing and getting capital, doing all of this stuff, going to filling out paperwork to go to college, really doing anything. You sure as hell can start the process of becoming a legal citizen in this country. You absolutely can, especially when you were prevented from being deported by ICE because of the DACA allowances already. So that doesn't make any sense. It's still rewarding bad behavior. And that's not why people voted the way that they did, by the way. People did not vote for that. That's not what they voted for. So in absence of recognizing that if you are in the country illegally, you're brought there, brought here as a kid. And then you try to rectify that as you start a business and all that stuff. And you were protected under Barack Obama and Joe Biden. You were you were prevented from being able to deport you. With an absence of recognition of that, this is not a solution. This is just a Democrat talking point. That's what it is. And you can get mad about it if you want to. But I'm not the one saying the Democrat talking point. I'm pointing it out. That's not what we voted for. I did not vote for that. I did not vote for that. I don't want no bait and switch here. Do not George H.W. Bush me on this. I don't want a bait and switch. Don't want it. Oh, yeah. No, read my lips. No new taxes. Read my lips. We're going to deport everyone. No, we're not doing that. You do it. Follow through. And it is realistic. If you have not started the process, then that's an act of criminality. And at some point, you are responsible for your own actions, regardless of how you got here. You were allowed to stay here because the assumption, and this is one of the reasons why DACA was so dumb, the assumption was that you were going to be starting the process to be a citizen. And if you didn't do it, then that's on you. So why are we rewarding that? That's a basic question, is it not? I mean, doing something like this, you know, Reagan's and I and look, I like Reagan. Everybody likes Reagan. I can say things about the record of President Ronald Reagan that does not diminish my like of him. I like him. I mean, I disagree with his gun control. I mean, we got gun control to Reagan and we got one of the largest, what, three million some odd sweeping amnesty under Reagan. I don't want to see that repeated here. There has to be some kind of accountability. And that's really ultimately what it is. I don't know why that that caveat cannot be attached. Why Republicans are so scared. This sounds I mean, I'm aggravated because I already I feel like already here we are, not even in January. And we already got this coming in. Can I remind you that for all the talk, I think all the people saying that Republicans won this election by a landslide. These people have never paid attention in politics. They got they got a quick ascension because they say red meat things that everyone else says on TikTok or on X or wherever and. And they actually don't have any deep insight. They just kind of like regurgitate what other people say. They have not paid attention to turnout in elections. They have not paid attention to trends. All that stuff matters. We legit had the same turnout that we did in 2020. What made it seem like it was a massive turnout is that Democrats didn't come out to vote. I mean, they weren't going to go out and vote for Kamala Harris. They didn't vote for anybody. They didn't come out. It made it seem like it was this huge sweeping thing for us. And my telling you that means we didn't solve these problems. We didn't solve the problems. It was the same turnout in 2020. Not much different from 2016. So you still had a lot of Republicans that didn't vote. It just happened that more Democrats did not vote this time. And that's what contributed to the victory. Now, I'm not saying that to undermine or be mean, and I don't need people who don't pay attention to this stuff. I'm telling you this because do you want to keep risking it in the future? I mean, if there are people out there who value their ego and being able to flex on X more than they actually do about contributing to anything in meat space, then they can go ahead and they can sit and spin on my remarks there. But I'm telling you this because we've we haven't solved the problem and you're not going to solve the problem by weakening yourself on immigration after election. People voted for something very, very specific. I don't want to have another election where the victory is hinged upon Democrats not being enthused and not turning out. My gosh, we cannot do that. We've got to get our people out, and we have to have good policy that we can point to as reason for their continued support. That's what it's all about. So I don't like what I'm hearing from him on this because, again, it ignores the fact that you have people who are now grown, they know better, and they're choosing to still not follow the law anyway. How is that any different at that point? Because they're assuming the criminal offense. They're not inheriting a criminal offense. They were protected under previous DACA accommodations, and then they have thus far declined to start the process to become legal citizens. So at some point, the responsibility transfers to them because they are the ones who could do something about it, were expected to do something about it, and chose to not do something about it. Are we not the party of accountability? Because again, I just want to know if what I voted for on Tuesday is what I actually, or on November, is what I voted for or not. And I think it's a fair question to ask. I need everyone to remember, you don't owe your allegiance to anyone. Except yourself. You're the voter. You're the one who people should be pledging fealty to. Not the other way around. I guess some of us are just way too American to tolerate that kind of spin. So people need to deliver for you. You voted. You were the ones who had your characters impugned and you don't have millions of dollars to cry into. You had your characters impugned. You had your businesses closed. Your families targeted. You're the one who was owed. When you vote, you expect a return on the investment of that vote. Do not sell yourself short because you're worth more than that. So I don't know what this is. I will say I do like that he's outright refusing any kind of involvement in Syria. And we're going to talk about this more with our friend Stephen Yates here coming up next hour. Because it is the Syria issue. It's not something the United States needs to be involved in. I mean... Not at all. No reason as to why. But you have people like Lindsey Graham and others that are very, very excited. They think that, oh, here's something. But one of the other big points that I see being missed is the, I would say, the destabilization this has caused to Iran. I think after October 7th, Iran did not count on Israel fully eschewing all of the, I don't want to call it advice, lectures, I guess, that it was receiving from so many other nations about, oh, well, you can't react and you can't do this and you can't do that. They weren't expecting the kind of pushback they got against Hezbollah. They were not. And now, I mean, one of the reasons that Iran was able to supply Hezbollah so easy was because Syria under Assad allowed it. That's part of that Shiite crescent, the power struggle in the Muslim world. The Arab League had been working with negotiations, but they've been in a stalemate for, I don't know how long, in Syria, for quite a long time. And Israel overpowers Hezbollah, completely knocks Iran back, And now they've they've lost Syria and the cover that Syria provided. I'm just saying they now they have they used to have a direct path to their proxy militias. Now they don't. I mean, you had up until what the end of last month, you had Assad and Hezbollah were still controlling parts of Syria. Now they don't. And now the Iranians are left out just completely unsupported. Very interesting. And it's a very huge shift in the power dynamic in the Middle East. And this is something that Netanyahu had noted. Reuters has the story of how when he was making, he was in Golan Heights, and he was speaking about the collapse of the Assad regime. And he noted that, well, part of this was due to the defeat of Hezbollah in the north. And reemphasized that Israel will protect its borders. Iran did not, they gambled wrongly. They really, really underestimate. Can you imagine, again, back to the point that the question that I asked first hour, can you imagine if Israel had listened to Western leaders about what it should do? Oh, don't be so hard on Hezbollah. Well, there's a reason they were working with the Assad regime. There's no good choice in Syria. But the idea that the rebels coming in are somehow some sort of saints, they're terrorists. They're literal, actual terrorists. I mean, the only thing to kind of get excited about is that the mullahs in Iran are totally destabilized now. So when will the people of Iran take a second running at maybe another Arab Spring? Remember the first time that happened, they had the Iranian guard up there on the rooftops sniping people. We'll see. Hamas, and there's a change with Hamas too. So apparently, where's the story that I had? So apparently one of the things with Hamas is that they were getting notes and taking inventory, for the lack of a better way to put it, of the hostages that they have for to be able to use them in any kind of negotiation. And apparently some of the previous requirements that they had, including like Israel stopping all ceasing all responses, which they call hostilities, responses, etc. They're dropping some of those. Because I think they're realizing now how dire the situation is for them. I mean, they've been utterly decimated in the south. Hezbollah is decimated in the north. So now Hamas is demanding that, well, they need Israel to stop any offensive so that they can get information on these hostages. And they're trying to ascertain how many that they have in custody, etc., And I think Hamas is realizing, okay, it's over. It's already over. It's done for this part. And, and Israel pushing back so hard on Hezbollah, just that was like kicking out that table leg, that third leg out from underneath, uh, Assad in Syria and Iran. And now it's destabilized that they were trying that little crescent that they were trying to build is just all fallen down. We're going to talk more about that with Stephen Yates coming up. We also have the latest with the Daniel Penny verdict, because I don't know. I'm just wondering if it's going to be a peaceful night tonight in New York. 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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So when I first read that this Florida man had decorated his yard with the lamp from A Christmas Story, I thought, well, how big could it be? You'd be surprised. JP McCallick's suburban Jacksonville, Florida home. It's 20 feet tall. And it even includes a replica of Ralphie hugging the lamp wearing his pink bunny suit. It doesn't. Is it an inflatable? Because it really doesn't even look like it's an inflatable. But he goes, I like his response. He goes, quote, everyone's decorating their houses. And I thought it'd be fun to have like a neighborhood competition. And so he just decided to put that up. He also, I mean, it's crazy. He does not have what I would call traditional decorations. But that's funny. So he's got the giant leg lamp in his house. in his yard. I kind of like that though. I, I, I've been wanting to get a giant nativity and put in my yard, but I want a giant nativity, like a huge one. Some people in my household don't share my vision. I mean, no, but you know, if it's awkward, you know, I want like resin, right? We got to talk. We got to save this for later. Cause I got more. Hang on. I got more to get into. Um, let's see oh my gosh listen to this a florida man says delta airlines burned his golf bag and clubs worth nearly four thousand dollars oh and it looks real bad too i'm looking at the destruction of it he said that his golf bag was burned and everything was charred i don't even know how you burn because golf clubs are what are they metal aluminum yeah He was this is in October. He was on a flight from Atlanta. He was waiting for his luggage at the Southwest Florida International Airport. And then he said when he saw it come around again, he goes, wait, oh, my gosh, those are our those are my clubs. The freight guy said that they dragged it and it wore through the protective covering, started to spark, and then it caught everything on fire. So he's filed a claim with Delta. Delta initially denied the claim. And finally, they said that they're going to pay for it. But it was like, I mean, and it looks bad. How do you drag them and then spark? That's just negligence. That's just laziness and negligence. I don't know how else you attribute that. Look, I want to show you the photo. Look at that. That's crazy. That's what they look like. That's insane. Oh, my gosh. Let's see. Last but not least, a half-naked Florida man. I may have to share this tomorrow. High on meth, broke into a home, only to steal the resident's carpet cleaner. I'll share that one tomorrow. Third hour next. Welcome to the program. Top of our third hour. Dana Lash here with you this Monday. You can find us, the chat's at Rumble. You can find us also at X. And Channel 347, DirecTV, all kinds of good stuff. This, a few things. They've ID'd the killer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO. Luigi Mangione, an ex-Ivy League student. He is the person who's been identified. And he apparently liked quotes from the Unabomber online. I don't know what all that means. But, you know, if it means that he liked them or he shared them or whatever it was. So that's the – there's still – If they're releasing his name, though, then they must have him pretty much almost in custody, I would think, right? Because at first they didn't want to share anything about him because they didn't want to tip him off or make him feel as though he was... They were onto him. So this individual... I mean, he was able to elude that, which is crazy because it was in Manhattan of all the places in Manhattan. And he was able to elude that long. So that. Wow. So this individual and Luigi Mangione. is his name. And he apparently had an Ivy League education. He is, and this, of course, is about the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson. He's described as an anti-capitalist, I guess because of some of the stuff that was on his social media profile. He's 26 years old. He was taken into custody at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. So technically, he's not arrested yet. He's taken into custody. He was caught with a firearm, a silencer, four fake IDs with names that he used during his time in New York City and a manifesto, which railed against the U.S. health care industry, per the Post, and including its profits and motives and all this stuff. And apparently authorities said that he had maybe a reason to be angry at the insurance companies because he had apparently a sick relative or something like that. And he once worked in an assisted living facility when he was in high school still. But they have photos of him and they got him in the back of the cruiser. And he subscribed to climate change. He was a climate change believer. He was an anti-capitalist. And he liked, apparently he liked Ted Kaczynski. Unabomber quotes. I don't know. Just wild stuff. But he was found, what, five hours away from New York City in Altoona, Pennsylvania. It was like a five-hour drive. He apparently was smart. He went and had a very bougie upbringing in all boys school, $40,000 a year for his high school tuition. That's bougie. That's a college education. He was going to go into AI. And so it had and he just wild, just wild. And he was right there, Manhattan, when all this happened and did it and was able to go this far. So that's the latest with the health care. the UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting. We also had the verdict in the Daniel Penny case. Lorraine has a piece up at Substack where you can go and read all of the latest in that case, the verdict, because he's not guilty. And we'll see if there's going to be riots or anything like that. The father was out there saying, oh, I miss my son and all this. The father had abandoned him to foster care. Gave him up to the state. And apparently once when Jordan Neely was a teenager, he wanted to live with his father. And his father was trying to shake him down for his street performance money. And when Neely wouldn't give it to his father, Andre Zachary, then Zachary would not allow him to live with him. And that was it. I mean, just a mess. But I'm actually kind of surprised. I feel like I'm surprised because it was New York. And I couldn't be sure, even though I don't even think that Penny should have been charged, I couldn't be sure of a not guilty verdict, not because there was a question of Penny's innocence, but it's New York. I mean, we've seen some of the cases that have been coming out of New York, right? I mean, it's been pretty when we've seen it. So I wasn't quite sure how that was going to roll out. But Thankfully, there was some justice in that case. We also have Trump, who was in France at the reopening of the Notre Dame. Can we get... I have this audio. I'm pulling up my... This clip, Audio Soundbite 13, it's the handshake off, the handshake battle, as it's called, between Trump and Emmanuel Macron. Why do they shake hands like this with each other? I can't tell if they're, like, joking around or if Trump is trying to rip his arm off and beat him with it. I don't know. But Macron is shorter. And as you see in the video, he's shorter. And Trump grabs his hand like he's pulling him in. And... Like trying to rip his arm off. It's the wildest thing. But he was there also pictured sitting by Jill Biden, Ashley Biden at the reopening of this and Brigitte Macron, Emmanuel Macron. They were all there. We had video of it, but I don't think we're able to play it just yet. So moving on, the few other things that we've been hitting to with this is. The way that he was received, it's like a state visit. It's like he is the de facto president of the United States, even though he's president elect. Jill Biden did not get the same treatment that Donald Trump did. They didn't roll out the red carpet for Jill Biden. Jill Biden was there with Ashley Biden and they were just sort of treated as an it was like they were an afterthought. Trump is is president and it's all but a formality at this point. The inauguration is the formality. And it was very interesting to see. And as I made mention of, it's a very different Europe to a very different Europe. And you don't have some of the I think in the originally in the beginning when Trump was first elected. That he... They sort of thought he was... They made fun of him. They thought he was kind of... Even though he was a successful business person, it feels like they thought he was gauche, right? They thought he was kind of like, oh, you loud American, etc. And they kind of were snotty. They're not snotty about that anymore. They really seem to actually like him. It's the wildest. They seem to like him. And, I mean... It feels like there's representation for the United States on the world stage again, doesn't it? Biden was kind of like a non-entity, really. A few other things to hit. We got a lot of audio soundbites. I want to make sure that we get as well. In the U.K., Audio Somebody 32, you will be arrested and thrown in jail for posting criticism of mass immigration grooming gangs or offending trans people on social media. So the grooming gangs, like what they saw in Rotherham, where they had girls who were being preyed on by people who were coming into the country illegally. Listen to this because police actually visited someone because they didn't like what they posted on Facebook. Audio Somebody 32.
SPEAKER 10 :
The Times, 20 to 3, 1440, arresting you on suspicion of improper use of the electronic communications network... What? ...127 of the Communications Act, okay? So you do not have to say anything that may harm your defence if you do not mention one question, subject which you later are in court. Anything you do say may be given evidence. Do you understand that?
SPEAKER 15 :
So I'm actually being arrested?
SPEAKER 10 :
You're going to be arrested, okay? So you go up to the police station, they'll ask you, okay, this is in relation to some comments that you've made on a Facebook page.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, really? Oh, it's a Facebook crime, is it?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so we need to ask you some questions about that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Have you got anything in your pockets?
SPEAKER 13 :
I've got my keys, I've got... No, that's about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think he's... So, anyone who's been arrested, we can search them on section 32 and place them in their flats. Right. That's a dangerous item to find criminals.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, you said I was going to be arrested under some information. I'm going to be arrested for posting on Facebook.
SPEAKER 10 :
Some comments that are offensive, obscene, and people have made a complaint about that. Can you tell me what this comment was? We'll do that when we interview you.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. And so what, am I going to be locked up for the night?
SPEAKER 09 :
Hopefully not. I mean, that's insane. Yeah, that's a real thing. That's not the first time it happened. Remember the joke someone made on social media and the police went and visited her? The girl that they went and visited? And she said she made the remark to the police officer that you look like a lesbian. And she was a young autistic girl. And her grandmother actually was a lesbian. And the woman had a short haircut like her grandmother did. And they said it was hate speech and they were going to try to arrest her. She was like 13 or 14 years old. Remember that? That stemmed from someone had a comment online. This is the kind of stuff that they do. There's no free speech over there. You know, if we would have had that ministry of misinformation, it would have been the same. You would have had a knock on your door and they would have said, you violated a rule.
SPEAKER 02 :
You posted something offensive on Facebook. What? It's offensive. You can't post something that hurts people's feelings on Facebook. It's just not appropriate, mate. It's not.
SPEAKER 09 :
So that's the world that we live in. There's no freedom over there. None at all. None at all. So there's a, I'm glad that there's a change. Now, a few other things I want to make sure that we're hitting because we also have been talking about the issue with Syria. And we're going to dive into this a little more with Stephen Yates coming up at the bottom of the hour. And because you already have Republicans kind of seeing opportunities, people like Lindsey Graham, seeing some opportunities for involvement, United States involvement. And that is not where obviously the U.S. should be. And we're going to talk about the implications of all of that coming up.
SPEAKER 08 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 09 :
So maybe pot noodle wasn't the best way to smuggle pot into prison. What is a pot noodle? Okay, because I'm once again not able to open this stupid thing. I just would think that if you're smuggling stuff into prison... I mean, I've seen Mayor of Kingstown. You know, it's a great show. I don't know if you've seen it or not. It's a great show. But I just feel like maybe... I don't know. That's maybe not the best way to... To go about getting stuff into prison. I don't know. By the way, everything froze, so I have no access to anything right now. So tell me, Cain, what is a pot noodle?
SPEAKER 08 :
A pot noodle? I guess it's one of those things you throw into a pot and includes noodles. And if it's Asian, then it'd probably be like a hot pot type situation. But the bottom line is... Okay, we're back in business. Okay, the bottom line is they thought it was food. It was not food.
SPEAKER 09 :
Can you OD on the... I mean, if you listen to all the Reefer Madness people, you can OD on it.
SPEAKER 08 :
On pot noodle?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 09 :
The woman, Victoria Sked, she was hiding a lot of contraband on her person. MDMA, psychoactive substances, vials of steroids. Jeez. She was like a walking... you know, bodega. I was trying to say it like Joe Biden. It was really hard. But apparently it's like a huge operation and they bring outside stuff into the prison. And anyway, yeah, she she she's in trouble. And apparently her whole ring of people are in trouble. A chemical spill at an Anheuser-Busch brewery in California led to an evacuation, according to CBS News. This Los Angeles fire department, they said it was a fire involving hazardous materials, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not as interested in this. I'm not. Oh, I want this one. No, this is not real. Is this real? What? The pit diaper.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was looking. It has its own website. Look, the link is right there. I provided the link. It's apparently... Now, it looks like a comedy thing. It looks like something that you would see... How is it sold out?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't believe this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's sold out.
SPEAKER 09 :
So the pit diaper... is if you've been to a concert and and you you they said the scariest place isn't the mosh pit it's the bathroom and you don't have to brave that hellscape with a pit diaper powered by depend and it looks like a chanel quilted leather with like a lemmy kind of gold skull and this is not real look at that
SPEAKER 08 :
Wait a minute.
SPEAKER 09 :
But it's from the liquid death people.
SPEAKER 08 :
If you're hard enough to go to the mosh pit, but not the bathroom, there's something wrong with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Dude, have you been to, well, I know you've been to some of the die bar bathrooms.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I've been in mosh pits too.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm pretty sure that you can get like all the diseases in the world. Just that's where Wu flu came from.
SPEAKER 08 :
Guys have the least. What did you, what did you say?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I don't know. Let's move to the next headline. Slap therapy. An alternative healer got 10 years in prison for the death of a woman at a slap therapy workshop. I mean, how is that a thing? It's slapping therapy. It was a 71 year old diabetic woman who stopped taking insulin during one of his workshops. Was he like telling her he was going to slap the diabetes out of her? In the world, the technique has its roots in Chinese medicine, but critics say that it's stupid because it's dumb. It is dumb. It's so dumb. Stephen Yates is up next. Stick with us. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you at the bottom of this third hour. And, you know, you can listen to us across the country, Channel 347, DirecTV as well. Rumble is where the chat happens. And make sure you sign up for the newsletter over at Substack. So one of the other big stories, because we were covering the Notre Dame, we're covering the Daniel Penny trial, the UnitedHealthcare CEO assassination. There's a lot of stuff to discuss. And then obviously everything exploding with Syria, which is so... I'm trying not to tinfoil hat it, but it seems very convenient timing to me. Everything is sort of kept at a stalemate until now. Trump is going to be going into office in January. It's just odd. But if you're following, Bashar al-Assad is now apparently given... He's given asylum in Russia. And... Iran looks like one of the biggest losers in this. Russia also. And China? And there's always a China element. But we want to talk about this with our good friend Stephen Yates, who, as you know, worked in two presidential administrations, including previously for POTUS-elect back in 2016. He's also an expert at all things related to China, and he is a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, and you can find him at x.com. I finally got it without hesitating. Yates comps. Doesn't work if I point it out, though. He joins us via Skype. Stephen, always good to see you. I mean, obviously, this situation with Bashir, there's no good choices here. And I I'm I was listening to this audio soundbite of Joe Biden earlier. We played it earlier. where he said that we need to aid the new regime in Syria. And I'm thinking, you mean the terrorists that are coming through, right? Because you, I mean, they're different sides of the same coin, essentially. I mean, it's, correct me if I'm wrong on this, this is all about, you know, the Shiite, Persian Shiite versus the Sunni Muslims. And you have, and then as it relates to Assad, you have terrorists and Assad, who kind of is a terrorist. So there's no good, there are no good choices here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it's real test of whether we've learned anything from Iraq, Afghanistan, Arab Spring, Obama's line in the sand. I mean, there are a lot of forces at play in Syria. It's a little bit of a devil's playground. Russia definitely had been exercising influence there. China is always supplying and seeking advantage in these kinds of things. Iran definitely is the sort of civilizational power trying to tip the balance in that region. We also have our NATO ally, Turkey, which is not an easy relationship to manage of itself right on the border and has a significant influence there too. Just a whole lot going on there. The last thing that we should be signing up for is some open-ended commitment to say that we're going to pick winners and craft democracy for rebels getting together on things. We might have some role in trying to stabilize things from getting out of control. But really, this is just a perfect example for the Trumpian adjustment to American foreign policy of Our friends in the region need to take the lead and let's see what we can do to play supporting cast so that things don't get too bad.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, it's it's who would we I mean, this reminds me so much. It seems very similar to me in some respects to Libya. Yes, very much with Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration looking as in the very beginning. I remember when all of that fell apart and, you know, the video came out of Gaddafi and and then, well, we have to support the new regime. What regime? The terrorists that are coming through? I mean, there's no other option. And, I mean, it's true that Syria was basically allowing Iran to have like a direct funnel to Hezbollah. I mean, that's one of the reasons that – which I thought was very good that they did when Israel pretty much decimated Hezbollah in the north. I mean, that – they were getting hit by all sides. And it kind of like, you know, it showed and Iran was having to respond. Hezbollah was having to deal with Israel, Russia's in Ukraine. It was really leaving Syria, you know, Assad utterly exposed. They really had no muscle of their own.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, I saw a pretty insulting comment by our current national security advisor, Jake Sullivan, suggesting that the Middle East was getting more stable because of Biden foreign policy. And I think an astute observer on X basically said, nope, the Middle East is getting more stable because Israel has acted on its own and ignored Biden foreign policy. And I think that's been the case on several cases.
SPEAKER 09 :
What would that have looked like had they not?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, no kidding. I mean, it's just this whole region, the provocative weakness of the Biden administration from the catastrophic Afghanistan events going forward, really, it's hard to imagine. what would have happened if our allies hadn't said, hey, you know, we've had enough and we're going to keep, we're going to take things in our own hands. Which is, you know, basically, it's not done for the right reason. We'd like it to be cooperative and good ideas from America that encourage this. But whether it's the Middle East, Europe, Asia, this is the way ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. Talking with our good friend Stephen Yates. I know that it's kind of like moot to bring this up now because Assad's now in a sally, I guess, of Russia. But for a hot minute when people didn't know if he was going to stay and try to hold on to power, I kept wondering, well... Is China going to maybe step into that role that Iran had occupied or that Russia had occupied? Russia was having to pull out assets for Ukraine and then Iran's having to deal with Israel and they're being rocked with Hezbollah. Was that ever a possibility? Because I know Syria is a Belt and Road country, but were they ever I don't know. I mean, is Syria that important to China?
SPEAKER 11 :
More opportunistically, but you correctly note that really with every different controversy that's popped up in recent years, especially during the Biden administration, China at some point tries to put forward their version of a peace plan or something that tries to show that the American-led Western way of life is on the decline and China's and their friends way of doing businesses on the rise I don't think they really had an opportunity this was just too fast moving for them but they've tried to put these things forward for Gaza for Russia Ukraine from different times So I'm sure they would have had something to say if this had dragged on. I'm kind of surprised that this cork was in the bottle for as long as it was. But then when it went, it went really fast.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it went incredibly fast. I mean, is the timing. Am I just too tinfoil hat with us? Because it just is very interesting, the timing here. I mean, Biden's on his way out. Trump's going to be in office and what a month.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, so I think a lot is happening in the world because people anticipate change ahead. It's really hard to tell where the serious situation is going to really go. There's a lot of volatile parts in that mix. But in general, a lot of bad actors around the world are looking to make whatever moves they can now to settle into what they hope is a new normal because they know that there's going to be a different approach and no patience when it comes to to President-elect Trump coming back and saying, this is what we want to have happen. And these are friends we're going to work with. And if you cross us and hurt us, he's not looking to nation build, but he'll use force when he needs to.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, dare I say that they looked happy even greeting him when he was there. I mean, it was it was how different was that meeting from like 2016 and previous ones?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, it was mind-blowing. Now, because we live in an internet age where people can meme and AI things, there was some true hilarity that happened in terms of Jill Biden and Donald Trump being together in Notre Dame. But it was really remarkable to see world leaders lining up And it's like they had springs in their seats. They popped up. They were all smiles. He didn't have to sort of manspread his way to the front of the line. He did. He just showed up and people willingly were wanting to engage him. You could just see a palpable hunger for, hey, this is a vigorous, real leader. And we might this is just a different Trump. This is a different, different time. And maybe the rest of the world is going to say we want to give this a second try.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, it's. It's nice to have someone there that's sentient and is aware of it. I know that Jill Biden and Ashley Biden were kind of there, but they just were sort of... I mean, it's not just me, right? They were kind of treated as afterthoughts. I mean, he's the president now, regardless of whether or not we've had the inauguration and he's sworn on the Bible. He's the president.
SPEAKER 11 :
This is such a different transition and such a different kind of environment, in part because Biden has been on the slow fade, really, from inauguration. But especially just the way things have broken. I think the best funny truth that came out of it was the Prince of England waiting to meet the real king when he came into the greeting room for Notre Dame. And so basically when you have the royal family of England looking to embrace Trump before he's even back in office, you know the world has changed a bit.
SPEAKER 09 :
Very much so. I wanted to ask you and kind of switch gears and look towards, obviously, China. Because China's, you know, I saw that one of the headlines where they were urging, you know, people in Syria to ensure safety of Chinese residents. And they kind of, you know, have been watching all of this unfold. You have Iran now that's I would say that they're entirely becoming destabilized because this is just thrown uncertainty on their regimes. You know, hold a grasp of power. You know, Russia's in the situation that it is in now. So desperate it couldn't even it couldn't even back up Assad in Syria. And now Trump is coming into office in January. How was China looking at this? I saw the one Taipei Times headline. China warships near Taiwan nearly double. But is that just them kind of continuing to save face? Because I cannot see them jumping on that landmine that it would be for themselves and doing something stupid right now with a more becoming conservative Europe, Trump in office and the big axis of evil there, you know, with Iran and Russia and everybody destabilized.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, just with the usual caveat that Xi Jinping has been a different kind of leader and I can't impose my rationality on him to try to predict what would go.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, he gets offended by Winnie the Pooh.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, you know, there's certain problems there, but it really would be ridiculous and really bad for China's own interest to try to do something now. They, I think, operate under the assumption that President Trump is a businessman and a dealmaker. he will be tough when he has to be tough, but they think they know that they can try to engage in a conversation with him where there was no conversation that he had with Joe Biden. And so I don't think they want to toss that option out the window at the start, but that's rationality. They have been playing with fire with lots of Ships and planes going into Taiwan space, lots of ratcheting up of pressure. They really don't need to do that, but they have done it anyway. They've done the same to the Philippines and Japan, where they're playing with fire. I just think that they have to take a step back. You're right about Iran, it's gonna be in a fundamentally different place. The money's gonna shrink back up again, and China can't bankroll them forever on stuff. some realism comes back into play and America will be better off for that.
SPEAKER 09 :
There you go. And we'll have like really good, awesome things to talk about going into the new year. I mean, I can't like trying to decide one day you'll join me and be like, Dana, I just can't believe it. Trying to decide if they're going to stop being communist, you know? And I mean, it may never happen, but you never know. I mean, weirder things have transpired.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's a beautiful thought and I will continue to entertain it.
SPEAKER 09 :
There you go. Steven Yates at Yates comms on X. Always good to see you, my friend. Thank you so much. Have a good week.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Dana.
SPEAKER 09 :
Take care.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
I really wish that we could just play Donny Hathaway's This Christmas and karaoke this last segment because this is such a great Christmas song, right? Oh, yeah. It's so good. This Christmas. It's so... I love this song. There's like certain Christmas songs that I have to play. I mean, yes, in addition to like, you know, the hymns that celebrate, you know, Jesus's birth. But this one by Donny Hathaway is one of them. And then the sleigh bells come in. If you're listening on the radio, you can listen to this. But the simulcast, you can't hear it. But here's where they kick in. There's where they kick in. It's some jingle bells. And then that rhythm settles in. And it's... I love that song. You know the other one that I really like? That apparently, I did not realize how much this divides you all. Everybody out there watching and listening, Wings' Wonderful Christmas Time. That is a great, great song that half of you hate. Every year we talk about this. I've never discussed this on the show. And I always get emails from people who are like, how can you like that song? That's the worst Christmas song ever. And they just they can't stand it. And then my own kids make fun of when Paul McCartney gets to the part in the song where he's like, you know, in the choir, the children in the choir. And my kids laugh at it because they think it sounds so like those kids suck. They're so bad. That's a great Christmas song too, right? But why does, like, I didn't know it was that divisive. Is that really? Kane, music guy. That divisive? What? I don't think so either. But do you know anyone that doesn't like it?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm sure there's somebody. Communists.
SPEAKER 09 :
Has to be. Baby It's Cold Outside is another one that you gotta play. Even more so now, right? Anything by Bing Crosby. Particularly White Christmas. Right? Gotta have. And the only version of Little Drummer Boy that will work for me is Dionne Warwick's. I don't know why. It is the only version that will work for me. Whitney's Aunt. Dionne Warwick doing Little Drummer Boy is so good. Her voice is so good. So I don't know. It's like it's I don't know. Everybody's got their own songs and stuff. Right. So we're going to start easing it in. Not I'm not going to like overwhelm you Hallmark style. We're going to start easing it. We got our Christmas. I'm in a snowstorm right now or snow globe. One of the two. But we got our we're all Christmas out. I don't know if anybody's even seen the thing on my desk. in front of my screen. You know what I think grenades are like? You can see the grenade kind of here, but not really. It's a Christmas bobble. There it is. It's a bobble. There you go. It's an American pine cone. Yeah, it's an American pine cone, the grenade. There it is. All right. So some of the other things, like I said, we've been we've been following all this stuff. There's going to be some pieces coming out for you. There's one of Daniel Penny right now that Lorraine has. It's up at Substack. And of course, you know, we're going to be watching the situation as it as it unfolds. This is not going to be something that you have any kind of resolution to literally anytime soon or in our lifetimes with Syria. But it's going to make for a very, very interesting start to the new year, is it not? All right. Today in stupidity came.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. This is Biden. Not only did he pledge to send aid to Syria, like he's pledged to send more money to other countries than he ever has. North Carolina or anybody here in the United States. But let's go ahead and play cut one. What was he saying here? Let's play a game. Play this.
SPEAKER 05 :
We will help stability, ensure stability in eastern Syria. protecting any personnel, our personnel, against any threats, and will remain our mission against ISIS will be maintained, including security of detention facilities where ISIS fighters are being held as prisoners.
SPEAKER 08 :
He's literally a lame duck president, but man, is he really.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now you can see why he probably didn't go to the Notre Dame's, Notre Dame's reopening. Kind of see why. All right, folks, that does it for us today. I'll be back behind the mic with you tomorrow. I'll be on Jesse Waters' program this evening, 7 p.m. Central. Have a great night.
In this episode, we delve into the high-profile acquittal of Daniel Penny, a young man who was recently cleared of charges after a controversial incident in New York City. The verdict has stirred debates on public safety, the judicial system, and the political overtones that often taint legal proceedings. As our hosts and experts unpack the layers of this case, we explore the broader implications for civic action and how this reflects on the priorities of law enforcement in major urban centers. Join us to understand the nuances behind what some call a modern Good Samaritan story and its impact on public perception. Simultaneously, the episode casts a critical eye on America's foreign policy, particularly in the tumultuous regions of the Middle East. As geopolitical tensions continue to rise, our discussion encompasses the swift military and diplomatic changes affecting Israel and Syria. With expert insights, we assess how these developments could shape future U.S. strategies in the region, especially as new leadership takes charge in Washington. This is a pivotal moment that underscores the intersection of local justice systems and global diplomacy.
SPEAKER 06 :
breaking news today on seculo marine daniel penny acquitted in new york keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo we want to hear from you share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110 And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, folks, right to it. So a good indication that even in New York State court. When you've got a jury of your peers and they see the evidence, they know the crime that's in the city, and they see a young man who stepped up to help protect people on a subway, they're stuck in a subway, there's nowhere to run, a guy who was threatening to kill people, a guy who was totally out of control, Daniel Penny subdues him. and in the process he was a former military person so they tried to use that against him by the way but he's brave he took his own life at risk immediately to save others and New York instead of going after all the other criminals in New York has spent their time you know trying to prosecute Donald Trump and Daniel Penny well when the jury heard all the evidence we already knew the manslaughter was out they supposedly deadlocked on that but it's interesting because then the judge brought in the second charge that they had to decide on which is lower than manslaughter second degree manslaughter which is negligent homicide and they when they went to the jury on that they found him not guilty so I'm not sure why And sometimes that's just the jury not understanding the complex differences, why this didn't happen last week. But it is a good sign that our legal system in the U.S. still can be saved.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely. I think that this is a very positive sign. Computers need to keep losing these cases. Because when you have a situation where anyone would watch and hear what happened in this, read the things and go, this guy was a hero stepping up. There was a mother with a baby in a stroller who came in. And yes, sadly, did the guy pass away? Of course. But... beyond that still saved probably a lot of people's lives and certainly a lot of trauma in this situation you also and again of course the marine in this situation you had a jury that as you said uh spent a lot of time on this this wasn't a quick one day it was over so much so the judge had to re-instruct them to go back because they were like essentially at that point they become like a hung jury they're scared i think one or two of them were scared they're threatened one or two of them scared, went back for the weekend, said, you know, think about it essentially, came back and they had an answer this morning. Yes, you do have a lot of unrest right now in New York where a lot of threats of riots that may be coming tonight. Here's the problem on these situations.
SPEAKER 09 :
We have to get to a point where if you protect people in public and the person who you're protecting them from was making those threats and was also on a serious amount of drugs. They can't even determine, because of the amount of drugs he was on, how he died or why. He probably should not have died from the way he was subdued. But he did. But even if he did. And you know what? He was threatening to kill people. Right. And this guy was brave enough to step up, unlike we've seen horrible incidents when someone does it and someone even just brings out a knife in New York and will kill three or four people who are stuck in that subway. car so again we have to keep winning these why because we have to get to a point where daniel penny doesn't have to go bankrupt or raise hundreds of thousands of dollars on kickstarter to defend himself because these cases shouldn't be in court they should be investigated because someone died and that should be it
SPEAKER 07 :
And Jordan, it can't be lost on who the prosecutor was that decided to go after Daniel Penny for being a hero. Alvin Bragg, the same district attorney that decided to go after President Trump and to create out of whole cloth a way to use state law against him for what would have been campaign finance violations and try to make a political prosecution there. It's all political in New York. It needs to get back to protecting the people of the city and prosecuting the real criminals.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Americans love New York. It's almost like wherever you're from, whenever you go to New York, you meet Americans from all over the country. It's the capital of the world. It's the second capital of the United States. We've got Washington, D.C., New York, and then I'd say like L.A. and San Francisco kind of are the core four. And we want it back to a place where, one, if you need to protect yourself, you can. Right now, there's a place where it feels like that more often than not. So... justice saved here we got a lot to talk about we'll take your calls 1-800-684-3110 support the work of the aclj i think this is going to be a big part of the next year is getting our justice system back in order donate today your gift is doubled aclj.org All right, welcome back to Seculo. I will continue to take calls to 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. If you want to talk about Daniel Penny, I just think it's a good example of the legal system working, the jury system working, but still such a waste of resources for Daniel Penny. and his family the fact that he's a name it makes it very dangerous for him to live and of course what it can cause to the city when you bring charges that you try to make into these most racially motivated murders that are instead just a guy protecting the rest of the people who are racially diverse on a subway train and a heavy drug user doesn't make it out alive who was threatening to kill people and we demonized the guy who protected the subway users I want to go though to write to Rick Rennell because there's some major shifting of course international news and the stories are all over the place Rick first off we're saying you know Israel say listen we started that I think the best description from any Israeli analyst was we started the dominoes and then when we start the dominoes in Israel and we've not yet done that before until we started taking out top Hezbollah and Hamas leadership once we started the dominoes the Netanyahu told Assad they're coming for you next and they're you know they're not gonna the other guys can't protect you Hezbollah's been decimated and Russia's stuck in Ukraine
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, one thing we should make perfectly clear is that we're in this situation because of the Biden administration, how weak their policies have been and how much they've funded Iran and all of Iran's proxies. But I think that regular folks within the Middle East have had enough and they're really fighting back. And certainly Israel has given so many people hope including in Lebanon, when they've taken on the fight of Hezbollah. This is a fight that they've done without the Biden administration's help. And I would also say, in spite of the Biden administration, they've really tried to hold a lot of the progress back. A lot of this should have been cleaned up immediately. We shouldn't have had October 7th, but if it did happen, you should allow the Israelis to go in and defend their country and clean up the situation. And we shouldn't be in this more than a year later. But it's because the Biden administration has really held the players in the region, you know, with one hand tied behind their back for a variety of countries. I do think that what's happening in Syria now, President Trump is exactly right. We need to let it play out a little bit. We don't need to get involved. We do have troops there. And I think the Biden team needs to hear President Trump loud and clearly that we don't need to be using our troops. But that doesn't mean that we can't be diplomatic leaders and have the State Department be able to do its job in our embassies and around the world. And we should play a leadership role without playing a military role.
SPEAKER 09 :
I wanted to ask you about the troops, Rick, because I know our listeners, I remember when Tulsi Gabbard would talk to us about the troops that are still out in Syria, still basically as close to the front lines as you can be when you're battling these multifaceted Islamist groups and you've got Assad's groups and you've got the Hezbollah back then and also these more radical groups and then you're kind of stuck in the middle as the Americans of who to trust and who to fight with. We see the Kurds they're already going after, but how how much in danger are those 900 troops right now because I saw that Russia made a deal with these insurgents that Russian assets, Russian airports and bases are not going to be attacked and embassies and their staff but can the U.S. make a deal like I mean it doesn't you know we don't quite have the same kind of access points to these radical groups
SPEAKER 01 :
Look, we have troops there because we wanted to make sure that Christians were protected and that ISIS didn't take hold. We can debate whether or not that's too many troops, whether we could have done it from another place. But the idea at the time was to keep a small number of troops there. so that ISIS wouldn't be able to come back in a strong way. Remember, Donald Trump defeated ISIS. So this is one of those situations where we wanna make sure that ISIS doesn't come back in. The brutal treatment of Christians is just one of the reasons why we wanna make sure that ISIS doesn't come back. But I actually believe that we have a NATO ally in Turkey. And I know that Turkey has not been perfect, And we've ignored Turkey for too long. But my idea is that if you are going to be in a NATO membership agreement with Turkey, which we have been since 1952, then you can't treat them as a non-NATO member. We share intelligence with Turkey. We need to get them more on our side. And the Turks care very deeply about what's happening in this region. Again, they are a NATO ally and I would force the critics of Turkey to come clean and either say that they want Turkey out of NATO or we should deal with the reality that Turkey is in NATO and they need to be a closer ally. We haven't done a very good job of really pressuring Turkey to be a better ally, be better with Israel and to help us in certain ways. Remember, Turkey has a very interesting relationship with Russia. Sometimes they're close to Russia, and sometimes they are the blunt force to stop Putin. Erdogan is somebody who I think has some power there. And President Trump recognizes that we have to deal with the leader of Turkey as a NATO ally, and we need to get them more on our side. I think they can do a lot in Syria. Syria right now is a mess. But remember that all of the rebel groups that have been going up against Assad and against Iran and against Russia for a long time, they were united just because they were the opposition. They're not united because they believe the same way. So now that Assad is gone and the Syrian government has fallen, now we need to be very cautious because we don't know within that rebel group, that within that opposition group, we really don't know who's going to rise up. There are some bad actors in there and there are some decent actors in that group. We need to give it a little more time, and President Trump is right, to just wait and see what happens.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, we know some of the bad actors coming from the Al-Nusra Front, which was kind of a break off of Al-Qaeda to be kind of a militant group instead of just a terror group that hides in the shadows but actually goes into cities. But you mentioned that there are some other groups involved here. Are there names of those groups that listeners and our viewers can start trying to get updated about so they understand. They love understanding these issues, Rick, and explaining it to their friends and family. So if there's those additional actors, if you're able to name them, it would be, I think, helpful for the audience.
SPEAKER 01 :
Look, I want to slow down and make sure that we get these facts right. There are many opposition groups that have come together And we still don't know exactly the numbers. We don't know who is in control. We see a lot of differing information from the different groups on social media. Some who have risen up to say that they're in leadership positions are former Al Qaeda members. You've got other organizations that I think are suspect and some that are quite good. Certainly we know the Kurds are there. And yet we have to be honest with the Kurds, thank them for all the help that they've given us, but also be realistic about the chances of the Kurds coming into a leadership role, which I don't think is going to happen. So I think we should just slow down and wait to see who rises up and who these different groups actually are. There's a lot of misinformation out there, and we're not exactly sure who's part of the rebel groups. And so I'd like to make sure that we give it a little time. I think President Trump's warning of let it play out a little bit more is exactly right. And let me finish with this, Jordan, is you know, the big mystery in the Middle East has always been, are these dictatorships, these governments that are human rights abusers, is it going to get worse when they fall? And should we take a slower approach? This is one of the strengths of Donald Trump, is to deal with the reality on the ground rather than to send in the Americans and try to completely take over the situation or handpick who should be in charge. And then that completely backfires on us. Donald Trump is a realist. He wants to deal with how the situation unfolds. That's why I talk about Turkey. Turkey is going to play a major role. Syria is a border country with Turkey. They care very deeply about the humanitarian situation. As a NATO ally, I think we should defer to Turkey and hear them out first before we begin to pick any players as to who's going to rise up and be in charge.
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they brought him to the lower church, which could have been four years still in prison. But what happened here, okay, just so everyone knows again. No, I think it was on the lesser church.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right, the manslaughter church.
SPEAKER 08 :
It would have been a much higher. He was deadlocked. They couldn't figure it out. I think they said there's maybe one or two is what a lot of the experts were saying. One or two of the jurors were not sure, but found not guilty. To clarify for everyone, that means this is over, right? Like he walks free.
SPEAKER 09 :
He walks free. Again, there can be civil cases. He'll have plenty of people supporting him, I think, through that. But the next question is, does New York cause a riot?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we'll see. Let's go, though, to that phone call. Let's go to Jerry, who's calling in Rhode Island, listening on the radio. Jerry, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good morning, team. It's a good day. My phone's blowing up with former Marines, former law enforcement. We're hoping that the prayers and donations, including from ACLJ listeners, that covered the GoFundMe. Hopefully we prepare all that. And wouldn't it be great to see Sergeant Penny either at the inaugural or in a Trump position somewhere down the road?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Jerry, I think a lot of people feel at least a relief in the sense of, as Jordan said, that the judicial system seemed to be honest and fair this time. It seemed to work out in a way, because everyone looking at the facts of this, I'm sorry, if you look at the facts of what happened and you watch what happened, how you can say that this person did the wrong thing. Deserves to be in jail for the rest of his adult life.
SPEAKER 09 :
Coming out of jail when he beat 60-something years old because he saved people on a subway train from a bad actor who probably should have been out in public.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in that second-degree manslaughter charge, which was the first thing that the jury was deadlocked on last week, the judge sent it back to them with some more instruction, came back still deadlocked, and then the judge said, all right, I'm just missing that charge, the higher charge of second-degree manslaughter. And then told the jury, look at the lesser charge of negligent homicide. The jury on Friday then had a question about the reasonable person language within negligent homicide, which would mean that did Daniel Penny act outside of what a reasonable person in their right state of mind would do? and what as you mentioned Jordan is interesting is that they were so quickly able to acquit him of the lesser charge when they were deadlocked on the more serious one now this lesser charge would have still carried around four years in prison potentially so he he was still facing the jeopardy of prison time I know that the father of Neely who was the the person who died in the attack He has already filed a large civil lawsuit against Daniel Penny. But when you heard the witnesses that there was a mother who had her five-year-old son that was taking him to a doctor's appointment and barricaded him behind a stroller, another woman called it a satanic rant. that Neely was going on. These people were terrorized and living in fear in that moment on that train. And as you say, you never know what a jury is going to decide or come out with and how they hear it. But I think the closing arguments of Daniel Penny's attorney were really effective when it said, who would you want to be sitting next to on a train? The man with earbuds minding his own business, but will take action when you need him to? Or would you rather be all alone on the train when someone is having a psychotic moment?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think this also brings up a much broader issue, which is New York and a lot of these cities built on having these kind of transportation systems for people that are affordable, that are fast and reliable. They have become...
SPEAKER 09 :
areas of of great crime and areas of stress and areas where people are unsafe working in the city too right so now we have mass protection that used to have if you went in rush hour so many people was going to be full if you went home during again when most companies close it was going to be full and so you were really only having to protect yourself late at night on really late at night like on you know on during the week on weekends busy all through the night
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think that this becomes an issue that New York has to really take a look at. Eric Adams, everyone got to look at and go, OK, how can we actually make this safe? They keep coming up with solutions. They don't really get quite get to New York.
SPEAKER 09 :
We've we've been you've been. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm taking the kids on the subway.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's just the truth. I don't.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't. Because it's horror stories. I live in Washington, D.C. I've used their metro my whole life and have been happy to do it when I'm with friends in New York who actually understand how it works. But if you're just trying to go like one or two stops with kids, it's a nice little way because they walk slower.
SPEAKER 08 :
All you need to do is figure out how to make this safe again and make these cities more appealing to come to. This is a good step. You got to get the politics out of law enforcement.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is a good step. yeah no this is a great step because it shows these prosecutors you are wasting taxpayer dollars and your prosecutions are becoming a joke so stop playing politics as the DA and start actually protecting the people of New York because that's also sends a signal to the world that the United States of America is a safe country because there's two places you know that people visit from overseas New York City and what is the other? LA and was it Orlando?
SPEAKER 08 :
Orlando, Florida, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Nashville.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Nashville, we're kind of big. Neither of us have, Orlando and Nashville don't have the mass transit situation like that, except for like provided by the theme parks to get you there. Phone lines are open, by the way, and we are going to be taking calls in the next half hour. We do have a second half hour coming up. If you don't get us on your local radio station, I know our last caller was listening on the radio. Some of them don't pick up the full hour. They should, but they don't. Go to aclj.com. Watch on YouTube or on Rumble. We're broadcasting live on all those options right now. But phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. This is a perfect time to call. Also, we cannot stress enough. 25% of our budget, our annual budget, is raised in the month of December, and we need your help because we are falling behind right now. When you hear about the events happening in the Middle East, when you hear about what's happening in New York, we are making sure we are there taking global legal action, and we're going to defend Israel, and we're going to be there, and we're going to need your support. So we encourage you, go to ACLJ.org right now. If you support this month, that helps set our budget for the entire year. And if you support right now, your gift is doubled through our Faith and Freedom year-end drive. So I encourage you to go to ACLJ.org, tell your friends to. You can scan the QR code on the screen right now. Or again, just go to ACLJ.org. Very easy to do it. There's ways for us to see how people respond. And what's very cool, we have looking at do people respond to an article or an ad. We know when people respond to this broadcast based on the time and how they come in. So be a part of that. Show your support also for this show. That's the way to do it. If you like what you get each and every day on Seculo, support the work of the ACLJ because that is how it is funded. And if you don't, hit the subscribe button. Make sure you're part of it.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's a grassroots action I'd like a few of you to take today. Tulsi Gabbard is beginning her meetings on Capitol Hill on the U.S. Senate. You know we brought her on our team long before she was associated with President Trump or had even made the decision to go that political in this election cycle. She certainly wanted to be speaking out on issues that we care about, religious liberty and the First Amendment. Will, who are the first three senators she's meeting with today?
SPEAKER 07 :
She's meeting with Mike Rounds from South Dakota, Senator Lindsey Graham from South Carolina, and James Lankford from Oklahoma.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, if you are in South Dakota, South Carolina, or Oklahoma, call your senator's office if it's one of those three. Tell them in a nice, positive way. Hey, just a reminder, you might want to let the Senator know, Tulsi has been working with the American Center for Law and Justice and the Seculos for over a year, including on their broadcast two and three times a week. So that kind of message, let them know she's one of us. That would be great to do. Don't do it if you're not from their state yet. We're going to launch something bigger for her. But do that today for those three. I'd love to get your feedback on it tomorrow.
SPEAKER 06 :
keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, so there's a lot to talk about today, and I do want to take your calls. I mean, the Daniel Pinney verdict, I think, folks, it's bigger than just Daniel Pinney. This is, when we talk about de-weaponizing law enforcement, I don't just mean at the federal level. I mean at the state level, too. And we talked about how, in a Supreme Court case, my dad argued for President Trump, and I was the lead chair, but we were having to do it from, literally, we built a Supreme Court over there. And we were arguing that a president should not be subject to the political whims of over 2,500, nearly 3,000 local DAs that are partisan elected. And of course that shouldn't happen to the president, but it also, our DAs, whether they were elected because they're Republican or Democrat, should not have their politics play into the role when you're talking about murder. Right. When you're talking about, is this a good Samaritan or is this a bad guy? And in this case, everyone knew this guy did something heroic. Is it a tragedy that a life was lost? Yes, but the life that was lost was someone who had regularly threatened lives on the subway and was doing so at the time. and he was protecting women children and others who were stuck in a tube with nowhere to go and this crazy person was obviously on drugs which makes them even harder to subdue and when he did subdue them obviously if you see the video because they're on drugs they're pushing back hard and lost their life unfortunately but how many lives were saved
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and Jordan, I think that's what the juries think about because they ride those subways. Another thing to bring up in this whole story is what you've been talking about, the safety of our major cities when the district attorneys have been politicized and making it about leftist politics instead of keeping their cities safe. I mean, you think back to the assassination of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare that happened in New York recently. right outside of Times Square. And now there is a little bit of breaking news on this. They're saying that a person has been detained about 100 miles east of Pittsburgh at a McDonald's. The individual had what appears to be a similar weapon that was used in his bag, as well as a fake ID, according to police. But that story's captivated American conscience for days now. And if this is a local police that found this individual at a McDonald's 100 miles east of Pittsburgh, he evaded the entire security apparatus of New York for days and was able to get out of there. It goes back to the fundamental questions of New York should be a place where people are relatively safe. And when that can happen right outside of Times Square, when the Rockefeller Center tree lighting was happening that evening and can evade police and get out of the city, as well as these situations on the subways, it makes people question the leadership and the priorities of those in law enforcement in cities like New York. And hopefully we are going to see, you've already heard Mayor Adams start to change his tune. Now that President Trump has been elected, talking about the safety of the citizens when it comes to the migrant crisis in New York. But hopefully you'll see other law enforcement district attorneys, mayors in these large cities in America start to change their tune and say, wait, our job is to keep our city safe, not to push progressive ideology forward. woke agendas. It's to keep our citizens safe, to make sure the infrastructure holds. And we've been seeing that fall to the wayside in far too many American cities over the past decades.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. I mean, and Logan, we all want the ability To show New York off as like, we've got Washington and New York on the East Coast and Philadelphia as well for our history. You want people to feel like if they're going to come to the U.S. and make that trip to learn about our country, it's really hard to understand the United States. You can't just go to New York. But you start there, and then you understand how the U.S. spread across the country. Of course, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's this unbelievable melting pot of people. Right, absolutely. It's where it all started, really, if you want to look at it. And it still feels that way. Yeah, absolutely. It's got that melting pot feel still. But the problem is you have a lot of people who have not felt safe going, or they know certain areas you can't go to anymore. And a lot of these were big, popular tourist destination areas. I'm not talking about out in the bad areas. We're talking about in Maine, tourist spots.
SPEAKER 09 :
Walked down that street last week. I mean, you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. All right. Hey, we still got more coming up. Phone lines are open 1-800-684-3110. Quickly during this break, support the work of the ACLJ. Just go ahead and do it. Scan that QR code. Go to ACLJ.org.
SPEAKER 09 :
Of course, we've discussed the news with the former acting director of national intelligence and ambassador to Germany, Rick Grinnell, who is on our team at the ACLJ because of your financial support. So we get that awesome insight, by the way, was able to get that awesome insight last week over the weekend so that we were as prepared as possible to understand the. as we call it, multi-angle, multi-dimensional chess games that are going on. And of course, more than games, you've got Russia involved. You've got Iran involved. How does it play out for Israel is a question because right now, a lot of these insurgents are saying, listen, I remember one of their first orders was, do not go in with guns to government buildings. Keep the government buildings. We're negotiating with the current prime minister, and he is working on a transition so that the apparatuses in Syria... continue to work so that you know food water sanitation even though it's been a war-torn country that the basics at least get provided so they've they they have pledged to do that so they aren't like taking all of the Assad people out at least we haven't seen that yet and just like killing them in the streets they also haven't been just overrunning these different offices that run the country so that's that's a good sign that can also just be the first step to get inside and then once you're inside you end up are they going to be more like a turkey or are they going to be more like a isis and uh With a Taliban kind of ish flow. What is going to happen exactly? Prisons have been released. So we're going to stay on those issues. They are very important to us at the ACLJ. Christians were protected, interestingly enough, under the Assad regime. Will they still have that protection or do we need to work on... getting those Christians out of Syria these are questions we have to start answering very soon as we get more information or are these Islamic groups going to say listen we have a diverse country we're not trying to focus on just turning everyone into an Islamist extremist but usually in the past that is what happens unfortunately so watching it very closely tied to that of course is how did this all start Well, Syria started 14 years ago, and this was with ISIS, and then the U.S. destroyed ISIS, so we have a limited team there. Hezbollah used to really be the protector of Assad, but they've been decimated because they decided to try and get into a war with Israel. Didn't go well for them, so they've been begging for those ceasefires. But it really started October 7th. And whenever Hamas started planning that attack on Israel, and I'm bringing in CeCe Howe because CeCe, people remember very early on by the next month, we were representing families in Washington, D.C., taking them to Republican and Democrat leadership to keep that pressure on getting both Americans who were kidnapped home, but also the Israelis out so that there could be a path forward. to a ceasefire that ultimately may lead to the end of this conflict I want you to update people because we've added more clients yeah about where it stands right now of the of those who were kidnapped the good things and the bad right so once again we are seeing that Hamas is possibly looking at a hostage prisoner swap and like you said Jordan it's because of what's going on in Syria
SPEAKER 02 :
what is happening across the world. And of course, that President Trump is now coming into office in January and has made a very harsh statement that the hostages must be released. So we are once again seeing this prisoner hostage swap on the table. And it would include, according to what we know, one of our contacts in Israel was saying the terms are being guarded very So we don't know all the terms, but we think it'll be a humanitarian swap. So that includes like the elderly children, women, ill, badly wounded. And we had filed, like you said, in November after the October 7th massacre and the hostages being taken by Hamas, Israeli hostages, we filed with the working group on enforced or involuntary disappearances and their mandate at the U.N., is to assist families in determining the fate and whereabouts of their disappeared relatives. So we filed on behalf of 10 total clients, and of those 10, four were released. We had a mother and her three minor children released two unfortunately and tragically heartbreakingly have been confirmed dead and we have four of our clients that still remain hopefully alive basically their well-being is unknown but two of those clients are women so if this is truly a humanitarian release we would hope that two more of our clients we would see in this What should happen is every single remaining alive hostage should be released in this swap. And that's what obviously we will keep pushing for. But we are hopeful that we might see two of our clients, remaining clients released.
SPEAKER 09 :
updates on those you know we've seen Hamas try to do some proof of life videos and some we've also heard that the Hamas leadership that's still left in Gaza is frantically on the phones trying to figure out where these remaining hostages are more than just the ones we represent but for the ones we represent have we received any kind of proof of life um
SPEAKER 02 :
We have not. And I actually after November, when we filed in November of last year, I actually met with a working group on enforcing involuntary disappearances in Geneva in March just to reiterate our clients positions and to to really make our communication the most effective that we could do with all the mandates. One of our clients, actually, there was a proof of life, I believe, video that in the middle of last year kind of was released, or this year, I'm sorry, of 2024. Of course, we don't know what her status is now, but when the video was released, there was hope that she was still alive.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, I think, again, really pray for these hostages, for our legal team that's been working on this. This is tough work. I mean, I still almost every day, it's a mistake if I don't, at every event, I'm going to wear this yellow ribbon to remind all of you and to remind anybody walking by that maybe sometimes ask, what's this about? We've still got 100 hostages. We don't know their whereabouts. And some of those are American citizens. And Donald Trump is calling for them to be released. We have good reports that Hamas is trying to find all these individuals, the bodies and those who are still alive. And I'm sure it will be a mix. But... See, they can't really get to a ceasefire until the bodies and those alive are back home. And that at least we know that the hundred or so they've been accounted for now. There's not going to be a ceasefire until that happens.
SPEAKER 02 :
i believe netanyahu absolutely has understood that and has you know commented to that effect that you have to get the hostages back dead or alive and like president trump said you know sadly he believes probably more of them are dead than alive but whatever the number is those hostages need to be returned and like you said seven of them were u.s citizens And three of those have already been confirmed dead. So there's four possibly still alive. They have to be returned.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Jordan, I want to play this for you real quick, because this is the outgoing national security advisor, Jake Sullivan. They're already trying revisionist history about the foreign policy of the Biden administration, which has been catastrophic around the world is probably a polite way to say how bad it's been. But This is his revisionist history on the way out, how they're spinning. It was actually the Biden administration that created a wonderful moment in the world. Let's go ahead and play bite one.
SPEAKER 03 :
What is amazing about the moment we find ourselves in right now, though, is that Iran, Hezbollah and Russia are all in a position of relative weakness in the Middle East. And our core security partner in the region, Israel, is in a position of relative strength in the region. And we believe that the United States has taken steps over the course of the past year through military deployments, through diplomacy, and through engagement with all of our partners that have helped to bring about this set of conditions.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, here's the thing. The only reason this happened is because Israel decided to go on an offensive that they in the past did not want to do. which was to go directly target Iran and Iran's proxy forces not just the ones right on the border in northern Lebanon and northern Israel and southern Lebanon but they went after the leader of Hezbollah who's been living underground and I guess that whole idea that he would never be found and Israel was obviously tracking him and knew exactly where he was the entire time but also knew the concerns of what happens if you do kill him but they had other things planned they never took it they didn't say they were behind the pager attacks they didn't say that they were 100% behind what happened in Tehran with the leader of Hamas when he left Qatar for the first time and now we've seen Qatar remove the rest of Hamas leadership I don't know where they went I don't think they're back in the Gaza Strip but the idea that the world already started shifting that way and President Trump hasn't even taken office now Does this add another complication? Has the Obama administration and Biden administration put another disaster on President Trump's desk? Yes. I think that's their goal. And I don't really think it's about Joe Biden. It's these Jake Sullivan types. Joe Biden is on his way out. He's smiling. He's happy. These are people who are trying to make it more difficult for President Trump to make good on the promises like ending the war in Ukraine and and bringing more peace and stability to the middle east but they don't know who they're dealing with when they're dealing with donald trump and his allies like we are at the aclj so support our work because we also do it internationally aclj.org double the impact today donate today aclj.org it is so important it's critical you donate today thank you All right, welcome back to Secular. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. Still a lot to talk about, again, because going back, I think, to just a bit of Israel, too, Will. we know that there is an opportunity to end this conflict and while we've got our clients the bigger issue I think for Israel and of course we have an office there ACLJ Jerusalem I know Jeff Balaban is actually was home briefly here in the US he's on the way back as we speak right now and I'm going to be reconnecting with him tomorrow on these kind of movements Syria and how that's affecting the Gaza Strip and how many people can really get is Israel really expecting can be found whether it's bodies and hopefully many who are still living because then if Israel can check that box they can then refocus on Hezbollah, which continues to be decimated, and really watching what's going on in Syria. As President Trump said, this is not our battle, but we do have 900 troops there. So at a point, we have to decide if our troops are going to be safe. Right now, I think that group has said, we're not really interested in that. But those groups usually end up Once they've cleared out the regime, they focus on other international actors. They're going to play nice with Russia. So what does that mean for the United States? And 900 is not 10. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Jordan, one thing I also want to bring up, and this goes kind of back to that Jake Sullivan bite that we played in the previous segment, that's revisionist history trying to say that We supported Israel to create this moment in the Middle East where Iran is kind of on the ropes in many areas. But I want to point to this New York Times article from over Thanksgiving week that with Trump returning and Hezbollah weekend, Iran strikes a conciliatory tone. And what it points out is that remember all the ballistic missiles that Iran shot in retaliation to taking out Hezbollah and Hamas leaders. And then Israel did a retaliatory strikes. They point out that Iran was ready at the beginning of November to launch another counter strike on Israel so that there would be this back and forth shooting match between Israel and Iran. But they changed their mind. They had a plan ready to go. And the deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps warned that we have never left an aggression unanswered in 40 years. They did for the first time. And what changed? The November 5th American election where President Trump was reelected, and all of a sudden, the IRGC and the mullahs in Iran decided not to continue that back and forth with Israel- I think that speaks volumes to what happened under the Biden foreign policy and just the reelection of President Trump. They were scared of another maximum pressure campaign from President Trump and that if they continue to escalate their shooting match with Israel, it wasn't going to end well for the Iranians. is the real strength, not the Biden foreign policy that Jake Sullivan is trying to recast as some great, wonderful thing that they've been able to bring peace to the Middle East. We all know that the world was set on fire under the Biden administration and under their foreign policy. Don't let those talking points on national security advisors that are being dismissed from their jobs as their administration leaves out of office. That's not the reality of what we see.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, I think the reality is we are in a very, as we said, always a dangerous time in these transitions because the work for the new president keeps piling up. The domestic work we know that's there, the inflation. Now, the economy already starts moving in a positive direction because they are predicting the policies that will get through a Republican House and Senate that will be helpful to the companies on the stock market. And so you see that even cryptocurrency going up bigger than ever before when it was almost dying. I mean, there were countries trying to go to that system that were being made fun of. And now if they held on, maybe not.
SPEAKER 08 :
It seems like it was very over. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then it started building back slowly over the last year. And that's because there's a lot of financial advisors on the right who think this kind of idea of currency is not a bad idea if it can be regulated enough to where it's still... Not the same as our regular currency. It still has that flexibility, but isn't as dangerous for people to invest in as it is right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Let's go ahead and take a phone call. We've got a phone call coming. Stephen is calling on line one. Stephen, thanks for holding. You've been on hold for a while.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Thank you. Go ahead. I'm just glad that this verdict with this young guy was... It was determined that he was not guilty.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think a lot of people feel that way. A lot of people feel like there was actually a, you know, justice was served in a strange way because New York, you never knew in New York. There was a lot of feelings that they were not going to be able to acquit him of everything purely for, I mean, somewhat of political pressure, if you want to say that, or cultural pressure.
SPEAKER 09 :
yes then he wouldn't have been able to be acquitted but they actually did their job as the jury i think when you have to look at someone like that it's not donald trump it's not that kind of like show trial because this is someone going to jail for violence and murder long-term prison sentences so um and i think they were even gonna have problems with trump honestly but This just shows you that rational people from whatever background they come from who live in New York understand what it's like in New York right now, especially if you find yourself kind of alone on the subway or with a handful of people. There are a lot more troubled folks out on the streets right now in New York than there were. Obviously, COVID was so quiet, and there's still kind of that COVID quietness. The office buildings like in D.C. that are only 17% full, I feel is not that much different in New York either for a lot of those buildings. You might see some people coming in and out as you walk by, but you certainly aren't seeing the same kind of rush hour movement. The traffic patterns have changed, which means the subway patterns have changed. And strength in numbers was kind of the subway ideas. We're going to be so packed in that if there's a nut, the nut is going to be able to do very little damage because they can barely even move.
SPEAKER 08 :
Everyone around them, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now that's not the case. They can target trains and say, you know what, I'm going to get on that train. There's only about six people. And that guy just chose the wrong train to start threatening to kill people that day. And honestly, New York should be praising Daniel Penny. He should be like, a Daniel Penny day. That they need more Daniel Pennies to speak up and to work and to not be afraid to take that action. You know, the law is careful there on Good Samaritan work. you have to make sure that if you were going to engage, that you will take the consequences of engagement. That means what could happen to you and also your training is taken into account. But here, again, this person was threatening to kill people. He wasn't just acting crazy. He was threatening to kill people. So... Why aren't we saying this is – we had the Guardian Angels. We've had other groups in New York. What happened now? And it worked. New York, it took about 10, 15 years. And if you did more work quickly with funding, you could do it quicker than that. And New York could be back to that place where people don't think twice about going.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely. Or putting a business in. We're wrapping up this Monday show, and I wanted to take a minute here as we start to end our broadcast to tell you this is the most important month of our fundraising. We're being honest with you. 25% of our budget for the entire year comes in in the month of December. Be a part of it right now. And right now, gifts are doubled. now through our faith and freedom year in drive. Go to aclj.org, scan the QR code. You've heard us talk about our support of Israel today. You've heard about everything that's going on, breaking news items. We're able to break it down because we have legal experts who can come on and break down what this all means. and so much more. And we'll be able to not only educate, but hopefully also entertain. Hopefully you like this show. Even if you just say, hey, I just like this show. Your other work is great, but I don't really get it. But I like having this each and every day to help me really understand what's going on. This is a perfect time to support the work because without your donations, this show doesn't exist. The ACLJ doesn't exist at all. So go to ACLJ.org, make your donation today. Scan that QR code. Again, whether we're sending demand letters to the UN, whether we're in court, or whether we are broadcasting, we are always there for you. And of course, if you need legal help, you can get that as well as aclj.org slash help. And you get that at absolutely no cost because of ACLJ supporters and ACLJ champions like you. So go to aclj.org today. It'd be a good time to do it. Excellent time to do it.
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In this compelling episode, professional money manager Bill Gunderson provides a thorough analysis of the stock market as we edge closer to the year's end. With the recent fluctuations in AI stocks and the pressures on healthcare companies like United Healthcare, the conversation emphasizes the importance of strategic positioning. This episode takes you through major earnings reports, the latest market developments, and the fundamental shifts within the technology economy. As undervalued stocks react to geopolitical tensions, Gunderson offers practical advice for both short-term and long-term investment strategies, ensuring you remain well-informed for your next financial moves.
SPEAKER 01 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager, Bill Gunderson.
SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome to the Monday. It is the Monday, December the 9th edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And the markets have opened mostly to the downside right now with some weakness in AI stocks, NVIDIA. In particular, you've got China going after NVIDIA as a monopoly, which is kind of strange because China doesn't even have access to NVIDIA's product.
SPEAKER 03 :
China is a monopoly, isn't it? Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
So anyways, that is hitting the AI stocks a little bit here. But at the same time, let's see, the Dow was up. Let me see if I can find that Dow. Again, the Dow is up, let's see. I lost my page here, Barry, so tap dance for a minute.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, we got Dow up 14 points, basically flat up 0.03%. Got the S&P in red just a bit, down seven points. So virtually nothing in nowadays terms, given that it's at 6,083. And we got the NASDAQ up. Just two points. So essentially a flat day, it looks like, out there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, pretty flat. Small caps are up three-quarters of a percent, so we got that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Got some movement there. And crude oil is up 2% here to 68, 61 a barrel, likely because of some of the Mideast news that I'm sure you'll get to in a bit. And gold up a percent and a half, maybe on the similar news. And then Bitcoin down 1%. 186 points to 99,783.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with Bill Gunderson, President of Gunderson Capital Management, and Barry Kite, Chartered Financial Analyst, as we close in on the end of the year. 16 days until Christmas. 16 days, and we've got, what, 22 days left in the market year. And we're going to have the biggest losers in the S&P 500, the top 10 losers. Hopefully you didn't have any of those. We did talk about the top 10 winners in the S&P 500 from this past year. We were lucky enough to have several of those. And a lot of other things going on in the market today, NVIDIA being one of them. We've got more earnings coming this week, believe it or not, and that will be done for the year. And so we've got another active week in the market this week, as usual. Okay, so where did we end up on Friday? It was not bad. I mean, we had new highs in the NASDAQ. We had a new high in the S&P 500. But the Dow, on the other hand, hit 45,000. It bumped its head up on that 45,000 level. It may have a little bit of a pause here. As it struggles with that. But the Dow did hit a new high at one point last week. You've got the Dow trading at 20.6 times forward earnings. The S&P is 22.5. I put a chart up of the PE ratio over the last about 20 years of the S&P 500. And the NASDAQ hit a forward PE ratio of 35.5. last week so it suffice it to say that we have a very lofty We have very lofty valuations. In fact, I put up charts of price to book, price to cash flow, price to sales, and price to earnings on both the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ in the newsletter over the weekend. And I'm hearing the word froth more and more recently. Well, yeah, you know, those historical, they have not always been kept historically. For instance, I wanted to see what the NASDAQ was trading at back in the year 2000 before it crashed by 79%. We don't have a record from back then. The records on the forward PE and earnings of the NASDAQ, I think they began in 2008 to keep record.
SPEAKER 03 :
It might not even have been any positive earnings in the NASDAQ in 2000.
SPEAKER 04 :
A lot of companies did not have earnings, but at that point in time, they were not keeping an earnings per share. I looked at the formula to come up with the earnings per share for the NASDAQ. It's pretty convoluted. It would take some work. I'm sure they've got some kind of nice program written to calculate that each week. but as you look at the past history of the NASDAQ at least since 2008 you can see we're bumping up against The high, we're at the upper end of that channel. And the word froth, I mean, has to be mentioned in the same sentence with current valuations on all three of the indexes. Okay, the fall of Assad, we really don't know what that's going to lead to. It could be worse, to be honest with you. I mean, at least under Assad, he kind of kept, I mean, he was a brutal dictator. Not a lot of good coming from that. But ISIS could get a bigger role in the government. Al-Qaeda could get a bigger role in the government. We really don't know. We do know that Assad is now going to live out his life in Russia. He is under asylum.
SPEAKER 03 :
The enemy you know is better than the enemy you don't, I guess, right? Yes. Who knows how this power vacuum will... Will take place, where do you think, I wonder where, where does Assad hang out in Russia after his years? I mean, is he on the coast somewhere?
SPEAKER 04 :
There could be some assassins over there to get him, so he's got to lay kind of low. And, you know, Syria has always been a very widely varied country. You know, you've got a Muslim population, which is big. You've got a Christian population. You have the Kurds. You've got Al-Qaeda. You've got ISIS. You've got Damascus.
SPEAKER 03 :
You've got U.S. troops there. You've got Russian bases there. I mean, it's a smorgasbord.
SPEAKER 04 :
So we'll see. Okay, Trump over the weekend said he would consider a NATO exit if members don't pay their bills. Okay, pay up or we're leaving. He did this last time. Stock indexes. We're looking ahead. We've got some inflation reports coming this week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, this week. And then we'll get the Fed decision the following week, I believe.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. CPI comes in on Wednesday and PPI comes in on Thursday. We don't want to see inflation heating up again. I haven't seen any signs of it. Mostly you would come from the energy markets side. if oil were all of a sudden to go up to $75, $80 per barrel, but that's not happening. Trump says he won't try to remove Fed Chairman Jerome Powell. Okay, so it looks like the team is in place to run the economy going forward, including the Fed chair. And you've got a regime that is very pro-Bitcoin, and I wrote about that in my newsletter over the weekend. The biggest movers today in the market from an individual point of view, per microcomputer, that's the volatile, that's the VIX stock of the year. Without question, the wild swings in that thing. It's up 3.6%. The NASDAQ is granted it more time to comply with listing rules. And then you had another, you had a biotech, BIOA, which was trying to come up with their own weight loss drug to compete with Eli Lilly's drug and Novo Nordisk. No, it failed. And the stock is down 70% today, plunging. That's that biotech world. That's the biotech world for you. If you just buy one biotech, there's a lot of risk. I mean, the odds are firmly against you, but there's been a lot of biotech winners this year, and owning a biotech ETF would be a better way to go. And on that same note, Lilly is Morgan Stanley's top biopharma pick for 2025. I would totally agree with that. It's our top pick also. Although we called it our top pick quite a while ago. And Lilly seems to be busting these compounders. Lilly had a seat, the CEO, at the table with Trump, RFK, and the CEO of Pfizer last week. We'll see if that helps. And in the meantime, Lilly has recently had very good news on how much more effective their drug is, Zepbound, And then the competition's drug, Novo Nordisk. And eventually that pricing is going to settle out. And we're seeing more coverage from insurers, which we'll talk about when we come back. Because a big insurer is still in the news, obviously, with the assassination of one of their CEOs. And I've got a little bit of color to add to that. I talked to somebody that's been in the health care industry all his life. And I also talked to some doctors and dentists that have issues with UnitedHealthcare. They're notorious for denying claims. So that probably was at the center of that assassination last week. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, let's check in on Dow Stock United Healthcare, which obviously has been in the news here recently, as have many of the healthcare stocks. Man, it's really, it was trading at 620 before this all happened. Now it's at 547. That's three days worth of activity today. where the stock is sold off wildly. Now, I talked to one friend who's been an executive, a high-up executive in the health care industry his entire career. He says UnitedHealthcare is notorious, notorious for denying claims, delaying claims, all kinds of things. He says they use artificial intelligence to come up with ways to deny, deny, deny claims. So that was out of the mouth of one person. I talked to another person who is a dentist.
SPEAKER 03 :
And time is money in that business. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
And my dentist friend says of all the health care insurers they work with, United is by far the worst. He says especially this time of year, around December, November, they say, no, we're not paying. We're not paying. Maybe next year.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I don't know. Push it into the next year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Earnings estimates or what. That's what I was thinking. But he said he went eight months without getting paid for some procedures that he did from UnitedHealthcare. So I guess they're very hawkish. uh on uh you know claims uh and united health care i mean it's a pretty thin margin business to be honest with you i mean if you look at the income statement But they have managed to grow their earnings every single year over the last 10 years, really, if you look at their earnings record. So they have to be pretty aggressive on their end to do that. And that seems to be the most popular theory. It seems to make sense, you know, with what he wrote on the bullets. Of course, he's still on the loose, which is pretty incredible. Maybe it's Tom Cruise, right? Didn't Tom Cruise, he was the Mission Impossible. It seems like what this guy has pulled off there, he kind of looks like a young Tom Cruise also. But anyways, you know, the health insurers are not, it's not a healthy, it's not a healthy industry. and uh... i don't know what's coming uh... there are the calls for single-payer uh... which would deny a lot less claims but you would have a lot less procedures done so there's all of that at work right now i would not own a health insurance stock myself earnings coming up this week today is oracle oracle can put up some big earnings from time to time oracle has entered into that uh... ai universe also Toll Brothers is going to report tomorrow GameStop. I know that's your favorite one, Barry, of all the earnings reports. When's the last time they had earnings is the question.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was going to tell you. I mean, we're on the second weekend of Christmas shopping, and I haven't been into a GameStop yet. No.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, Roaring Kitty is not.
SPEAKER 03 :
You may have a couple of games under the tree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Roaring Kitty is not sent out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but we ordered them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we never know. Yeah, okay. All right. Adobe's going to report on Wednesday. Adobe is a powerhouse of the software stocks. Macy's. I see there's some activist investors involved. Macy's needs to become the dominant player in higher-end clothing on the Internet. I mean, that's got to be their way to go, but I haven't really seen them become that yet. Costco's going to report on Thursday, Broadcom. An important software stock we'll also report on later this week. Okay, then we've got NVIDIA, which China, I'm sure this is payback. Look, I mean, they're being denied NVIDIA's chips. So I don't know how they open up a probe into NVIDIA on anti-monopoly concerns.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we sell them those dumbed-down chips, I think. They probably don't market them as that. I guess.
SPEAKER 04 :
And NVIDIA is down 2.1%. It's dragging us down a little bit because along with NVIDIA, you know, let's see, the other ones that are down, usually everything in that universe, NVIDIA, Vistra, which is the utility providing the juice, Constellation Energy is down 3.3%. Vistra is down 3.2%. Arista Networks is down 1.7%. They're all pretty much tied to NVIDIA. And so that whole sector is off today on that news. AMD falls as B of A downgrades. Amid AI, you know, I have not seen any good action in AMD in a long time. We do not own AMD. It's a lousy chart. It's getting worse. It's down 3.5%. There doesn't seem to be hardly any demand or very little demand for their AI chip. The one that seems to have the demand is the Amazon chip. Amazon has been hitting new highs, and I think it is again today. It's breaking out to new all-time highs. And AMD just has a very, very weak chart. I just would not own AMD at this time. I've made the right call. We sold it quite some time ago. And even though you could make an argument from a valuation point of view, growth at a reasonable price, GARP, known as GARP, There's no momentum in the stock. In fact, there's a lack. There's negative momentum and sentiment on the stock right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
At least for the Amazon chip, they can create demand by buying the chip from themselves.
SPEAKER 04 :
I guess so. Yeah, okay. So they're doing very good. Okay, a couple of additions. Oh, no, wait. Palantir has been the stock of the month, really, December. Oh, my gosh. You know, I decided several weeks ago, I said, I bought it in the ultra-growth portfolio because it was just starting to rumble. And I said, you know, I looked at the market cap. It's over $100 billion right now. It's incredible. It's probably the strongest stock in the entire market right now. I said, I'm going to add this to the premier growth portfolio because it's large enough to fit in that portfolio. It was a large cap growth stock. It's $174 billion right now. And you know, the thing just took off. And I said, well, maybe tomorrow it'll pull back. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe the next day. Maybe next week. Maybe by Tuesday. No, it never pulled back. And it's just kept running, running, running. It's got good news again today. You know, they're very connected to the government. Especially, think about this. I mean, they're going to use them for U.S. Special Operations Commands. So imagine how, you know, the clearance that Palantir has to do that kind of work. And, of course, the CEO is becoming a little bit of a celebrity himself. He kind of looks like the mad scientist. I can't think of his name right now. But Palantir, man, that thing continues to rock and roll. When we come back, we've got some AI news update from Microsoft. And then we're going to talk about some stocks going into the S&P 500. We own one of them. And then how about the 10 worst performers in the S&P? That's always fun to look at. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. We continue to have the AI stocks under heavy pressure right now in the market. I'm looking at Vistra's down 7% right now. That's one of the nuclear energy stocks for powering these. In fact, the NASDAQ's going south here. You've got NVIDIA's down 2.8%. Netflix is down 2.6%. Arista's down 1.7%. Palo Alto Network's down 2.8%. Are interest rates going up? Somebody just downgraded the tech sector, it looks like. Meta's down 1.4. Constellation Energy's down 4.8. The Trade Desk is down 3.8. A rough day right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Ten years only up two basis points, so not much of an interest rate move.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, somewhere out there has probably downgraded anything and everything. I can't believe this is all just coming from China. But it is a pretty rough day there for the leadership stocks. Part of the problem is valuations here, okay? The valuations are very, very rich, especially in the NASDAQ. Across the board, really, the cheapest index of all is the Russell 2000, the small cap stock. But they don't have the kind of growth that the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 have. So anyways, it's a pretty rough day right now in the market. It looks a lot worse underneath the surface. It's one of those kind of days than the indexes would suggest. The other one, Microsoft has been pretty, it's been a good chart recently. It's still a major player in that AI. And Microsoft, you know, a lot of these large cap tech stocks, they'll get soft for a while and a little squishy. But as long as that growth is still there and as long as they're still in the middle of things like Microsoft, Microsoft was pretty soft for quite a while. It got down to 400. That was support, obviously. A lot of times a round number like that will become a support level. Microsoft tested that 400 support level a couple of times, and now it's in a pretty strong uptrend. It's at 445 today and breaking through resistance on the upside, so that's about a 12%, 13% move in Microsoft in just the last couple of weeks here. So a lot of times, you know, there's another lesson. You have to be patient in the market. You're going to go through some rough patches. You're going to have some rough days. You're going to say, should I stay with this stock? I make notes on my charts. And when I know I have something that's really, really solid from a fundamental, I'll remind myself and put a note right on the chart, Barry, be patient, which we all have a hard time.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's part of that trading diary where I've seen some folks, especially on the technical analyst side, to always keep a – call it a trade diary or whatever, right? But, yeah, you're making those notes and you want to pound historically because we all make –
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mistakes over the years you're not patient and it's uh then you see one and it's uh you want to make that note kind of like that post-it that's just in front of you kind of touch it on the way by right play like a champion today yeah and there's then there's the one that you're glad you sold I mean it broke support which Microsoft never broke has not broke support but believe me there were a few times when I said to myself maybe they're entering into Johnson and Johnson territory right with slink single digit growth and uh but it never did it didn't break support but i was trying to think of the one i did sell it broke support and it's done nothing but go down ever since then and you say to yourself thank goodness that i sold this thing when it broke support we had a good gain in it i mentioned it in the news there okay couple joining the s&p 500 apollo Which we're happy. We own Apollo. It's not a space stock. It's like a private equity. It's like the other private equity stocks out there, BlackRock. Blackstone, there's a lot of them. KKR.
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And with more private equity deals, with the new administration, you expect there to be more, you know, kind of investment banking activity. And those are, you know, Apollo is a stock that will benefit from it. The rest of them, those other ones you mentioned, as well as, you know, if you're looking at even the big bank side, one that's probably positioned the most for that space is going to be Goldman Sachs. Right. Just because it's... It's in that deal-making space, but it's certainly driven by the new administration and a little less red tape and regulation, and it's going to bring more companies to market likely.
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Now, here's the ones you did not want to own this year. Walgreens down 67%. That's Walgreens. I mean, you go down the street, how many Walgreens do you see? Kicked out of the Dow. Intel down 58% kicked out of the Dow. And by the way, the former Intel CEO, who is a devout Christian, Pat Gelsinger, is asking people, he did this on Sunday, to pray and fast for the chip makers, 100,000 employees, as investors wonder about the future of the semiconductor. He said, this week, I'd invite you to join me in praying and fasting for I thought at first it was praying for a faster chip, but no, fasting, going without food for 24 hours for the 100,000 Intel employees as they navigate this difficult period. I've never seen that before, a CEO do that. But they must be in deeper water than we think. Moderna was down 56%. I think RFK's got daggers for Moderna. And, of course, there's no COVID comeback, so what are you going to do with a COVID vaccine? Dollar Tree down 48% this year. A solar stock, Enphase, down 46%. I'm sure there's some guy out there going, man, I own all of these stocks. I'm going to find a new money manager. A new hobby. Enphase, solar energy down 46%. Estee Lauder has just been pounded down 45%. APA, which is natural gas, down 40%. Boeing, down 39.6%. And Dollar General, that's the other dollar stock in the top 10 losers here. down 38 percent so those are the stocks you did not want to own check your portfolio see what your money manager had you in and see if you had any of those top 10 okay the other one here this is a weird one but there's weird ones that come along i added these two to the app this morning there's a play going on right now in antimony Not alimony, antimony. It's on the chart, periodical chart, right? At one time, I knew them all, way back, way back when, in the early days of college in chemistry.
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And that's what China cut us off from, correct?
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Yes, China cut us off from antimony, which is needed for these EV batteries. So now you've got a couple of companies, United States, Antimony, UAM8. This thing was up 60% on Friday and up another 16 today. They're teaming up with Perpetua Resources, PPTA, and UAMY. These two stocks announcing a formal metallurgical testing agreement to evaluate stibnite-rich material from Perpetua's Stibnite Gold Project in Idaho. Okay, you never know where a story is going to come from in the market. And, you know, we also have coming out of Idaho that nuclear, you know, the nuclear play, NNM, on building portable, portable nuclear reactors. So anyways, those are a couple. I sent out a tweet on that this morning. Not a tweet, an email on that. And I added those two stocks. We'll see how they add up. And then there's a third one. Military Metals is acquiring the Last Chance Antimony Gold property located in Nye County, Nevada. So all of a sudden, I'll tell you one other one. Vanadium, okay? Vanadium is put into these domes of nuclear reactors and any kind of covering and casing around a nuclear reactor. And I actually own a little vanadium stock that's been kind of going crazy. It's settled down a little bit in the incubator account, which is where it belongs, okay? And I do publish that incubator account to all of our subscribers. Try to do it every other day or a few days to let them know what's in there. And then, of course, when I buy or sell them. Okay, NEO aims high for United Arab Emirates. So this is the second United Arab Emirates story of the day. The other one I skipped over, but Microsoft has been approved for to sell high-speed, I'm guessing, AI and NVIDIA chips in their system to the United Arab Emirates. And now the Chinese carmaker, NIO, is trying to sell EVs into the United Arab Emirates. I don't know if Tesla has a foothold there or not, but that's kind of becoming an important market here. Okay, we'll be back for the final segment. We're going to look a little underneath the surface.
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You've got to go where you want to go, do what you want to do with it.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. The Dow is now slightly down. The Nasdaq's doing much worse, however. We'll get to that in a bit. The Dow's down 20 points right now, and it's starting to slip. It's starting to... to sell off travelers leading the way down 3.1 percent the insurance stocks have been under a little bit of pressure they're very interest rate sensitive and when you get a drop in interest rates we were at over 4.5 not that long ago now we're at 4.15 4.18 That's taken a little bit of a toll on the insurance stocks, but for the most part, they remain one of the best sectors in the market in 2024. NVIDIA is now down 2.9%. The selling there has increased a little bit as China is going to open up an antitrust case against them, claiming they're a monopoly. Raytheon's down 2.7%. Well, you know, we've seen the military and defense stocks sell off, obviously. You've got a new administration coming in that's not quite as, oh, I don't know, not quite as hawkish out there. I know Trump said over the weekend, Syria, I don't want to get involved. The U.S. should not get involved. So that's not good for the defense stocks. Lockheed has had a big sell-off. Raytheon's down 2.7%. Salesforce is down 2.2% today. The only winners in the Dow, Boeing's up 3.5%. They must have some good news, maybe some contracts there. DuPont is up 2.7%. The oil stocks are doing okay. Chevron's up 2.4%. Now, as we look at the S&P 500, which I've got to change here, you've got a couple new ones coming in and a couple being kicked out. The biggest winner in the S&P 500 is Hershey's. Well, I don't know what the news is, but there's some news there.
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I wonder if cocoa prices went down.
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We're a chocolate milk family, the grandkids. We use our fair amount of Hershey and ice cream sundaes and that kind of thing. Whirlpool, this is the kind of day, I mean, weird stocks are up, good stocks are down. Newell Brands up 10.1. Interpublic, which is a big advertising agency, they're getting bought out by their competitor Omnicom. Enphase, the solar stocks up 7.4. Advanced Auto Parts. So a very weird day. You're probably not up today unless you've been down most days this year. Those stocks are finally rallying here today.
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Yeah, all places you likely are not.
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Yes, and the leadership of the market is selling off today. The cruise ship stocks, which have been hitting new highs here recently, Norwegian and Royal, are each down about 4.5%, 5%. You've got Carnival down 4%. Then you start digging into some of the tech stocks. AMD is breaking down. That is not a good chart at all on AMD. It's breaking support. It's got a ways down to its next level of support. It's down 3.8%. NVIDIA, I just mentioned, it's now down 3.1%, so it's added on another 1% to its downturn. Netflix, there must be a valuation call out there on the NASDAQ, which I've kind of been making here myself, but nobody listens to me. I don't move the markets like a Goldman Sachs or somebody when they say, hey, this market's getting expensive, especially the tech stocks. You know, you see an immediate sell-off. Arista Networks is down 2.6. A lot of this centered around the insurance stocks and the defense stocks. And even Palantir has now gone negative, which surprises me. It hasn't had a negative day in quite a while. Maybe I will get a shot at putting it into the... Premier growth portfolio. Salesforce is down 2.2. And then you look at the NASDAQ. I think you're going to see the same kind of pattern there where it's AI. The higher, the bigger, the more they're up this year, the more they're down today. So there's some profit taking, we call that. The Chinese stocks are having a good day. No, I don't want to have any Chinese. JD.com is up 14%. NetEase is up 11.7%. Baidu is up 9.7%. The only kind of core tech stock, Workday, is up 5.6% because it's being added to the S&P 500. And then the exciting stock, Kraft Heinz, maker of the slow catch-up, it's up 4.4% today. Now we look at the downside in the NASDAQ. And here come some of your biggest winners this year. Nvidia down 3.1%. Netflix, which has been pounding out new highs, is down 3%. So kind of the magnificent 7%. Meta's down 1.8%. Booking's been a big winner this year, down 1.7%. Tesla... One of the magnificent seven down 1.6. So that's the way the wind's blowing in the market today. Okay, well, you know, we have a lot of the four-week trials that have now come to an end. I'm going to miss you folks. Of course, we've had a lot that are signing up on a daily basis, new people coming in. And, you know, I have to take that into account. So when I go through all my stocks every day, the ones we hold, the ones I'm looking at, I reiterate. If there's one I already own, I say, hey, I still like this stock at this level. So I just assume that people are coming in with a clean slate, all cash. And I'm, you know, saying at this level, I still like this stock. Some are investments to build a portfolio. And some I see as more of a short-term trading opportunity. And I identify them. And I also tell you what portfolio I'm buying each stock. And then in addition to that, on the weekends, you get to see the current status of all the portfolios. I don't have the... the incubator portfolio in the newsletter yet maybe i'll do that on january the first i'd like to start on a nice clean date you know with with performance and that kind of stuff but anyways the offer is still out there for four weeks it's my uh... black friday cyber monday and holiday offering It's a class, a master class on the market. I give examples, and then I do ones that I tell you what I'm doing as a professional money manager. Just following along, you'll learn a lot about the markets. You may even learn that I'd rather buy a mutual fund or hire somebody to do this for me. You go to GundersenCapital.com. to sign up for the four-week trial, and you get access to the powerful app, the Best Stocks Now app and the weekly newsletter. And if you just say, oh, man, that's a lot of work there, you can also talk to us about your portfolio. Make an appointment with us at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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And we are on all the KLZ 560 platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, and the KLZ website and the KLZ app. So you can listen to us anywhere in the world as we search for truth and clarity, looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. and it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff whether or not it's their rights their property freedom livelihood opportunity or lives via force force can be a weapon but it can be policy unpredictable and excessive taxation fear coercion Government-induced inflation, we're feeling that one right now. The World Economic Forum's agenda, the globalist elite's agenda, and these are all connected. The United Nations agenda, the Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado governor, the World Health Organization. These land use codes and zoning regulations and force fees, those are in a way more subtle, but they're really ramping those up. And we'll be talking with Josh Lowenstein with Our American Lands today. in the second segment of this first hour because there's something new that you need to know about and remember my friends if something's a good idea you should not have to use force to implement it on the show we focus on the issues and the people pushing those issues we're trying to stay out of all the eighth grade girl personality fights and so that is our goal Let's see here. I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. My friends, this whole industry is under attack. And what that means is that reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources are under attack. And it is these reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. So just connect the dots. Our own prosperity is under attack, not only with the oil and gas industry and coal industry, but other industries. But thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. Our word of the day, and thank you to Neil for this, is ineptocracy. And it's a system of government. Oh, I'll spell it. I-N-E-P-T-O-C-R-C-Y. And in an eptocracy, it's a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. And the Biden-Harris administration has really, I would call that inepticrisy. And I did see a post on X regarding Obama, and he was accusing the Trump administration of everything that the Biden-Harris administration has done. And whenever these radical extremists start speaking, basically they are telling you and when they're accusing others of whatever, it's really what they have done. And in this X post, someone said Obama has lost his touch, but it looks like he's trying to continue to sow division in our country. And so we need to speak truth into these issues, and we need to unify around this idea that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. At some point in time, in eptocracy, what happens is the producers quit producing, which means that then there is nothing to take from the producers to give to everyone else. And as a friend of mine said in... socialism, communism, everybody's equal in their, they're equal in their misery because, and she said, we'll all be sharing a saltine cracker. And so that is why we have a window in time here. This is our time in history. We had the Revolutionary War, Civil War. I think this is the third founding of our country. And my friends, yes, we were made for this moment. So speaking of the Revolutionary War, I got this quote of the day because in 1775 at Fort Ticonderoga, New York, Henry Knox begins his historic transport of abandoned British artillery to Boston, Massachusetts, later forces the British to evacuate Boston. It's an amazing story. I don't have time to give you the whole story right now, but Henry Knox was born in 1750, died in 1806. He was a Boston bookseller, then a military officer and politician. He was a founding father of the United States. He became a senior general of the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War, serving as chief of artillery in most of Washington's campaigns. Following the American Revolution, he oversaw the War Department under the Articles of Confederation from 1785 to 1789. Washington, at the start of his first administration, appointed Knox the nation's first Secretary of War, a position he held from 1789 to 1794. He's well known today as the namesake of Fort Knox in Kentucky, the repository of a large portion of the nation's gold reserves. And Henry Knox said this, he said that taxes may be ostensible, a cause is true, but that they are the true cause is as far remote from truth as light from darkness. So one more time that taxes may be the ostensible cause is true, but that they are the true cause is as far remote from truth as light from darkness. And other things on this day in history. Let's see, 1793, Noah Webster establishes New York's first daily newspaper, the American Minerva. 1854, Alfred Tennyson's poem, Charge of the Light Brigade, is published in the Examiner. And The Charge of the Light Brigade is about a disastrous military action during the Crimean War where British cavalry charged into a heavily defended position against Russian forces due to a misunderstood order resulting in significant casualties. The event is also commemorated in a poem by Alfred Lord Tennyson, which highlights the bravery and duty of the soldiers despite the tragic outcome. Then in 1941, the first U.S. World War II bombing mission in Far East Luzon, Philippines. Now, it was this weekend, December 7th, 1941, was the bombing of Pearl Harbor. So this was the start of World War II. So just a few days later, after Pearl Harbor's bombed on this day in history, 1941, Adolf Hitler orders U.S. ships and those loyal to her to be torpedoed three days before declaring war on the U.S. And then climate event. And be sure and check out our documentary, A Climate Conversation. And you can find that at climateconversation.com with our amazing podcast. But in 1985, Phoenix, Arizona gets three inches of snow. So hence, I think that's where the activists realized they needed to once again change the name from global warming to climate change. And then I thought this was pretty funny. In 2021, more than 40 camels are disqualified from King Abdulaziz Camel Festival beauty contest after Botox injections and other cosmetic enhancements were discovered. I think you probably have to use a lot of Botox to make a camel attractive. Okay, let's get over here to headlines. First headline, we talked about this last week, Pam Long brought this to our attention, that at Fort Carson, the soldiers, the food is scarce, the quality is pretty crummy, and this is not okay. So Pam actually did all the research on electeds and Fort Carson emails as well. And she has gotten that over to us. And we are going to send that out on Thursday in a standalone email. from the Kim Munson show. We very seldom will do a second email during the week. We want to respect your inbox. We do our Sunday newsletter. But I said to Zach, I think this needs to be a standalone and we need to take a little time to get all that together. We've got all these different projects going on. So that will be going out, I think, on Thursday with all that information. And then, my friends, we need to take action. And we cannot let this be happening to our soldiers? And if you want more information, you can find that at military.com. And the title is For Soldiers at Fort Carson, Food is Scarce. Next thing, this is from Fox News, DOGE, that's the Department of Government Efficiency that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are heading up, is pushing to return federal workers to office as buildings sit vacant. And so this is this is a big, big fight. And I didn't realize that I shared with you last week that at one of the Christmas parties, I was sitting next to a former federal worker. And he said that many of these federal workers may have moved and they may be getting fired. On a pay scale, a bump for an area that they may be living in that's more expensive and they may have moved away from that area. So this is why this is such a big fight. And so this next article, and I think I highlighted it last week as well, says thousands of federal employees land a work from home deal ahead of Trump. So here you've got, and this is from Bloomberg, it says a Biden administration appointee has agreed to lock in hybrid work protections for tens of thousands of Social Security staff, part of a slew of organized labor efforts that complicate President-elect Donald Trump's efforts to reshape the federal workforce. So they're just leaving all kinds of landmines for the Donald Trump administration. Then next, I think that we were all shocked to see this gunning down of... Oh, gosh, I lost the title on it now. Sorry about that. Let me get to that. But regarding the UnitedHealthcare CEO that was gunned down in New York City, and this is remarkable. And apparently the left, there are those on the radical left that are in support of this gunning down of someone. because I'm concerned about denial of benefits from UnitedHealthcare. Stay tuned on this story. It is pretty shocking. And then the next thing is California with their fast food wage law. It looks like instead of many of these people getting more money, they're losing their jobs. And this is from the Daily Caller. It says California shed more than 6,000 jobs due to the fast food wage law. And so it has the opposite effect from what they say they're trying to do, but I think it has the effect of what they're trying to do. And so we must continue to keep our eye on all of these different policies, and we do that on a regular basis. It happens because of our great sponsors, and one of those is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. 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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Please dab on the line with me, Joshua Lowenstein. He is the founder of Our American Lands. and they hosted their first conference in October in Monta Vista. I had the great honor of emceeing that event. Joshua Lowenstein, welcome. Good morning. Hey, I'm doing well. This Biden administration is trying to do all kinds of things before the inauguration of Donald Trump. And we talked about the potential Dolores monument, but you've uncovered something else that is mind boggling. So tell us about that.
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Well, the you know, there's they're trying to do 30 by 30 on a scale now because they know they're about to be out of office tomorrow. That is going bonkers. And the local eco-activist group here in San Luis Valley has suggested that Colorado should have 14 million more acres of Colorado put into conservation, special protective conservation, more than the conservation there already is. Everything is, all the federal land has federal protections for the land, the water, the animals, all of it. And this particular new designation coming from the Fish and Wildlife Service is proposing to designate nearly, you know, almost 5 million acres of Colorado under the Endangered Species Act to protect the Canadian lynx that got introduced about 20 some years ago into Colorado. And 437,000 acres of that is enveloping private property too. So it's just crazy.
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So 30 by 30, we talk about it pretty regularly on the show, but explain to our listeners what 30 by 30 is, Josh Lowenstein.
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Well, it's part of a plan that started in the 90s with Agenda 21 and then for basically United Nations and the various globalist entities to take over and control 30% of the world's land and water by 2030 and 50% by 2050.
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And I think there's this impression that public lands, that the public would have access to it for agriculture, grazing, motorized recreation, hunting, fishing, and natural resources, which is what you have here on our American lands. But 30 by 30 wants to return the land to its natural state without, I think, human interaction.
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Well, rewilding.
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Rewilding. Yeah. And so this is a really big deal. How did you uncover this? Because I think they're trying to be very sneaky about this, Josh Lowenstein.
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The fellow who just got elected to House District 52, Larry Don Sucla, out there on the West Side, posted this on Facebook, actually. So... If you don't mind, I can read all the counties that are affected by this. Yes, please do. That's Archuleta, Boulder, Chaffee, Clear Creek, Kanaos, Dolores, Eagle, Gilpin, Grand, Gunnison, Hinsdale, La Plata, Lake, Mineral, Montezuma, Ouray, Park, Pitkin, Rio Grande, Soich, San Juan, San Miguel, and Summit Counties. And parts of New Mexico, too, are affected by this giant misuse of the Endangered Species Act. I mean, there's only 150 lynx in Colorado. That kind of gives them about 33,000 acres each.
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Wow. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. So the end game on this is control, control of the land. And America was founded, one of the foundational principles of America is private property rights. And, of course, globalists, they don't want people to have private property rights. They want us all to be little minions, and they want to be in control of everything. And so what what needs to be done about this, Josh Lowenstein?
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Well, there's a public comment period that ends on January 28th, 2025. So the we need to once again, they make these comment periods so short, you know, that, you know, it's only what, you know, not even two months away for that. for getting all the public comments. And so there is, uh, I will get you more information exactly on how to do the commenting on that. The information I have doesn't show exactly where to make that comment too, but one of the big things that they talk about in their description of how this would affect this, this, uh, 5 million acre area is to limit firewood cutting and or deadfall and dead standing tree harvesting for firewood. And of course, as we know, the gross mismanagement of our national forests in relation to being able to get clear out some of that deadfall is the reason why forest fires get so serious and overtake so much land. And they're talking about forcing that issue to be even more so because they don't want humans out there in this area. I think that ultimately they want us to be the endangered species.
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It's pretty crazy. And to your point, without forest management, these forest fires get bigger, they get more intense, and it seems to me like it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that that's a real problem, unless ultimately, I'm not sure they even care about the earth. They're just using... all of this to try to gain more and more control. That seems like ultimately what's happening, Joshua. I know that's a strong statement. Do you agree?
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Absolutely. 100%.
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Okay. Tell people a little bit more about Our American Lands. That website is, I've got it right here, it's ouramericanlands.com. And I know you're gaining more and more momentum, and the conference that you had in October I think was very, very important. But we need to be shedding light on this because, again, I think it's quite sneaky on what they're trying to get through.
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Well, you know, it's just crazy. The degree of which they do this stuff is just insane and maniacal. But Our American Lands is a land use advocacy nonprofit organization with the intent that all of these public lands are for multi-use and simple as that. The other part of this is private land. And, of course, this particular designation would, take almost half a million acres, which is the size of the Dolores Monument proposal by itself, but half a million acres in acreage of private property, too. And we advocate for private property rights as well. So it's stuff that just has to be nipped in the bud. We have to get out there. All the various organizations that are pro-land use and pro-freedom need to just raised holy heck about this.
SPEAKER 16 :
So on the private lands, are they going to limit the use of the private lands, or what's the game plan on that?
SPEAKER 09 :
This claims that it won't, but in Montana, for example, where Fish and Wildlife, the same group that's bureaucracy that is doing this, They took over 5.8 million acres in western Montana for various reasons, but the Fish and Wildlife just deemed it without having to do any environmental impact studies or anything like that. And they're using conservation easements, basically forcing people that live in that area out. So if you live in an area that's going to be enveloped by this particular designation – you better be on guard because they're going to be trying to come after your land to boot you out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. So Joshua, Gammy has texted me. She said she wants that information on those counties, and she's going to do a write-up on it. And so if you can get me that, we'll get it into the show summary for today with the link of where to make comments and the counties that are affected, and we'll get that in there. Josh Lowenstein, thank you for keeping me informed and for staying on top of this. And again, I recommend people check out ouramericanlands.com.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you, Kim. I really appreciate it.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. We are in the second week of Advent, which is hard to believe. And Advent is the four Sundays before Easter. Christmas, and I'm here to help you with your Christmas shopping. And for that veteran that is in your life, why don't you consider buying a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service for the USMC Memorial, which is out here in Golden, Colorado. The foundation is raising money for that remodel. It was dedicated in 1977. And so a great way to help them and to honor your loved one. is to buy a brick. You'll get a beautiful certificate that can be framed and put on the wall. So more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to have on the line with me, Daniel Turner. He is the founder of Power of the Future. Daniel Turner, welcome.
SPEAKER 08 :
Kim, it is great to be on your program. Thanks for having me back.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's always such important conversations. And Daniel, this Biden administration is trying to leave all kinds of problems for the Trump administration. And at Power of the Future, and that website is powerofthefuture.com, you recently published something, the lame duck watch, White House distributes $100 billion in clean energy grants. I'm going to say green, and that's the green that's going into people's pockets. So this is unbelievable.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we started this project, Lame Duck Watch, after the election, once the results were official. And because we knew the Biden administration on their way out the door was going to try to sabotage the incoming Trump administration on all things green, all things wind and solar. And the biggest accomplishment the Biden-Harris administration has in this space is if you can call it that, but their biggest accomplishment is money. And if you look at any of the cabinet secretaries, when they talk, if you listen to even Vice President Biden, Vice President Harris on the campaign trail, everything always came down to we've invested $50 billion here, we've invested $5 billion there, as if spending money were somehow a metric of success. regardless of whether or not these programs even work, money is everything. And so we knew once the election was clear, this administration would try to spend as much money as possible for two reasons. One, this will hopefully create a lot of obstacles for the incoming Trump administration. Once money's out, it's hard to get back. And if you have given money to these Green projects here and there or these green climate justice groups, which no one really knows what they do, they're going to create a lot of problems going forward. And then second reason why they're giving a lot of money, they're buying golden parachutes. You look at someone like Secretary Granholm, the energy secretary, I'm proud to say the outgoing energy secretary, when she testified before Congress multiple times saying, They would rail on the fact that she never divested in any of these companies that were getting huge grants for electric buses, etc. And she would flat out just lie to Congress. This is where I get very frustrated with Republicans in Congress, because then they would go on radio and TV and say, this is outrageous. And I would be screaming, do something, right? Do something about it. If you're not allowed to – if you're breaking the law, if there's an ethics complaint that I gave this company billions of dollars, oh, and I own stock in the company, do something about it. But they don't. They just stop with the feigned indignation. Grants to these types of companies will guarantee that they will get jobs in the next – once the administration is done. These folks – They need an income. They need a health care plan. They need to put their 401k at work to work. And the best way to do it is to get a job on a board or as a strategic advisor at one of these companies who was the beneficiary of billions of dollars in grants from the Biden administration. So that's what we're keeping an eye on.
SPEAKER 16 :
How is it that the administration has all this money to give out? I thought that the House of Representatives was the one that had the purse strings.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, this was all part of the Inflation Reduction Act, which the Biden administration says was around $400 billion in grants. But the Wall Street Journal estimated it to be closer to $1.2 billion. And the Inflation Reduction Act, if you and your wonderful listeners remember, and I'm sure you do, This passed almost two years ago. It was basically Christmas Eve. Not one Republican voted for it. And quite frankly, it did cost Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia his job. He was the deciding vote. They promised him a whole bunch of carve-outs for West Virginia. He ultimately caved. None of those carve-outs came to be true. He was duped, and his constituents were livid at him. And Joe Manchin, who was up to this point... on energy issues, a great senator. Moderate Democrat, represented the people of West Virginia for years as a senator and previously as governor. He knew he was toast. He retired, even though he wanted to run again. So this Inflation Reduction Act is a disgusting poison pill of gobs of money. And sadly, it is signed into law. And just because it's a law we disagree with, It doesn't mean we have the right to not follow the law. So the Republicans have a huge burden on their shoulders starting in January to repeal as much of this as possible and claw back all of these green investments. And that's going to be a problem. Because of Republicans, yes, there are governors like your governor in Colorado, Governor Hochul in New York, Governor Newsom. Democrat governors love the green cash. But there are a lot of Republicans who also like free cash. And you see Republican governors embracing wind and solar and transmission lines and carbon capture, the biggest scam ever. On the planet. And when when it comes time to repeal, it's going to be those Republicans who are going to say, hey, how about you just keep my little corner of this is the problem with with with D.C. money. People get addicted to free money. Republicans are just as guilty as Democrats.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they really are. But the bigger picture is, is this is printing money, which creates this government-induced inflation, which is squeezing our families as they're going to the grocery store, their energy costs. It's squeezing our families. And it's really, I think, immoral. So one of the first things I would... I would like us. I don't not think the government should be giving out grants. I do not think that's the proper role of government, Daniel Turner.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I agree with you 100%. And when it comes to all of these green technologies and wind and solar and batteries, if there were a market demand for it, and this is why I love your show and I love your catchphrase, if these were great ideas and there was a market demand for it, we would not need to force it on the American people. And outside of government mandates... for renewable energy, so-called renewable, where your state, your governor, your city council says, by the year 2035, 50% of Colorado's electricity has to come from wind or solar. Well, that's a government mandate. And now if you're a utility company, you say, holy goodness, I got to find some wind and solar. So you have to start finding wind and solar companies. And then the government swoops in and says, don't worry, we have all this free money, and we'll give it to you to put up wind and solar. If these were good technologies, if they worked, if the people wanted them, we wouldn't need government mandates, and we wouldn't need government cash. And the problem I think we're going to face, which really does frighten me not to sound apocalyptic. But one of the things that frightens me is that the Trump administration is going to cut off those mandates and that cash, and you're going to have municipalities nationwide that now have these awful wind and solar things that don't work. And what do we do to their electricity, right? We've closed the coal plant. We've closed the natural gas plant. We're praying that these things work. But when the money dries up to backstop it, What's going to happen? And we know what's going to happen because we look at places like Germany. We look at all of Western Europe where their electricity prices are going on 15, 20 times what ours are because the money has dried up and now they are paying the cost. going green and and it is bankrupting their economies Germans economy is in full-out recession because of their energy policies and that's America's future unfortunately and we have to let it happen that's what breaks my heart Kim we have to let this happen because we cannot continue to backstop failed technology with government money
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, Daniel Turner, this day of reckoning is going to come one way or another. One could be on our choice, or the other is market forces eventually will just make it happen. And so let's get in the driver's seat on this. Daniel Turner, a couple of things. First of all, I had mentioned a Climate Conversation documentary in the first segment, which is the documentary that is the project of Walt Johnson. And we have created these amazing podcasts. And you are one of our guests on that podcast. And I would so recommend people check that out at climateconversation.com because it was just a great conversation. And people can learn more in depth of everything that's happening at Power of the Future. So we thank you for doing that podcast.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it's a wonderful documentary. I can't recommend it to enough people. I've recommended it many times. I've watched it many times because I feel like I'm always learning as you listen to these experts talk about a real conversation on climate. And we've hit the point with some of our more prickly issues, climate being one of them, but we could also talk about the gender issue. We could talk about abortion. We could talk about education. Sadly, we've hit the point in our nation that we can't have climate conversations. And I've said many times, and I've testified before Congress, and it's never Friendly. It's never a conversation. It is scream. I'm the one getting screamed at. Right. I can't scream back because they would arrest me as contempt of Congress. But I get screamed at by these politicians who are so full of rage and anger. There's no climate conversation to be had. And you watch this documentary and you do such an incredible job with it. where you just ask a very honest question and let's talk about it. And if you are curious about the climate issue and you don't know much about it, I cannot encourage you enough to watch this just brilliantly done and really easy to understand masterpiece. It really is wonderful.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you, Daniel. I wasn't quite expecting all that, but we do agree. And people have really said they appreciate just really the gentle questioning, the Socratic questioning, and that it's really has helped people get their brain around these issues. And then the podcasts are super awesome. So we're going to continue the discussion. with daniel turner who is the founder of power the future we get to have these conversations because of our sponsors and lauren levy can help you with anything mortgages in 49 of 50 states just not new york so again lauren levy for everything mortgages
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Another gift idea that I have for you is this great little Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And the center is located in Pueblo because Pueblo is known as the home of heroes. Four Medal of Honor recipients grew up in Pueblo, Colorado, which is pretty remarkable. Andrew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient who grew up in Pueblo, and Brad Padula are the co-founders of the Center for American Values. It's located on the beautiful Riverwalk, and they're doing all kinds of great things. You can find that at AmericanValueCenter.org. But this little book is just beautifully done, so inspirational, and a lovely gift. So be sure and check that out at AmericanValueCenter.org. And Daniel Turner is on the line with us. He's the founder of Power the Future, really focusing on the people that feed and fuel us. And first thing, Daniel Turner, this just came in on the headlines. And this is from The Sum and Substance. And it says, business leaders are deflated by preliminary state rules on carbon management. This is here in Colorado. It says, Colorado regulators... gave preliminary approval Thursday to the state's first comprehensive rules on carbon capture and sequestration, stringent rules that business leaders warn could scare off projects that are needed to meet statewide emission reduction goals. And these rules from the Colorado Energy and Carbon Management Commission, any time I see the word commission, I think of 1984, which is Orwell's book, but they're said to give final approval on December 11th. which will include the state's application to take regulatory primacy for the growing sector from the EPA. This is pretty scary, Daniel Turner.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the whole carbon nonsense, and this is going to be an enormous responsibility for our incoming EPA administrator, Lee Zeldin. We need to define our terms before we can make policy. And one of the crafty things the Biden administration has done, and we've accepted it, we've somehow developed this notion that carbon and carbon dioxide are poisons. And need to somehow be regulated or can be even regulated. And the problem here is that it's very similar to arguments in COVID. Arguments that we see in the trans movement, where when we just accept the fact that gender is a construct. And now we make policy based on that. And you have to go back to the premises of the argument and say, I don't buy that premise. I don't buy the premise that gender is a construct, a social construct. I don't buy the premise that carbon dioxide is a pollutant. And so before we can even talk about regulating it, we need to have the EPA determine policy. What pollution actually is. I use this often when I talk to college students and I give these presentations on climate issues and I ask them what percentage of the air is carbon dioxide, right? The air that we call it air, atmospheric particles, etc., what percentage of it is carbon dioxide? Is it 12%? Is it 50? Anyone know? And then when you tell them it's 0.04% of what we breathe, of what's in the air is carbon dioxide. And you say, now that 0.04%, how much of that carbon dioxide is produced from humans breathing? Anyone know? And you say it's 0.03%. So 0.03% of 0.04% is what we're talking about. And as a reference, I usually put up a graphic of a football field because everyone knows football. And when you have the ball on third and inches, right? And if it's inches, we're so close to a first down, it's inches. 0.03% of 0.04% of a football field is about 1 20th of an inch of the one yard line. So look at the entire football field and go to 1 20th of an inch of That's what we're arguing about. We're spending trillions of dollars. We're decimating third world nations. We're empowering Russia and China and Iran with untold wealth to create hell around the world over Russia. 1 20th of an inch of the one yard line of the football field? How silly are we? How silly have we become in these climate arguments? And that's the problem I have with the whole carbon capture movement. We have allowed the left to define the terms, and we need to take a number of steps back and say, this is all absolute stupidity. I'm not playing your carbon capture game anymore.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and the other thing is carbon dioxide is plant food. We might want to also mention that. And so when there's more carbon dioxide, plants thrive and flourish. And, gosh, I like thriving and flourishing for plants and people and the whole thing. So questions? Generally, I've been pretty excited about many of the announcements for Donald Trump's picks for his cabinet and other important positions. But I am concerned, first of all, regarding Kristi Noem. My understanding is that she's been very pro-carbon pipelines and all that goes with that and The more I'm learning about that, it seems to me like it's a land grab. So I'm concerned about Kristi Noem. What's your thoughts on all that, Daniel Turner?
SPEAKER 08 :
I am not surprised that Governor Noem got a position in Department of Homeland Security, meaning that she did not get a job in one of the energy-focused areas. And if you recall, even on the campaign trail, President Trump would say that he loves RFK. He understands RFK's mission and making America healthy and looking at the ingredients in our food and working with small farmers. But then he would joke, but I'm going to keep him away from the oil, right? I'm going to take care of the oil because he knows on the climate issues and on energy issues, RFK is a disaster. He's an absolute climate lunatic. So focus on our food. I'd like to know what the ingredients of our food are. And I think that's a great place for him to spend his time. And similarly for Governor Noem, I have a huge problem with Republican governors who, as I mentioned earlier, are addicted to free money from the federal government to push a climate agenda. And that's exactly what the Biden administration did with Governor Noem and with many other Republican governors. They give them free money to say, if you build this carbon capture facility, if you lay the pipelines to get the carbon dioxide to the facility, we'll pay for everything. And then the governors get to say, we got this grant and we created jobs. And all of that is very attractive, right? 5,000 new jobs created this month, and they're all construction, blue collar, and You take photos with the labor union. But we're building nonsense. Right. We could hire FDR did this masterfully. We could hire millions of people to dig ditches and fill them back in. And I don't think Keynesian economics works. are a solution to fixing the climate. And that's all they have in their back pocket is spending money and hiring people to do silly jobs. I have a big problem with the carbon capture agenda. And I do have a problem with using executive powers imminent domain to force people to give up their land to lay carbon dioxide, carbon capture pipelines against their will when the whole thing is a bunch of hokum. It really is. The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. As I said earlier, Republicans are just as guilty of being bribed by free cash.
SPEAKER 16 :
They are. And then last question. Doug Burgum, who is the governor of North Dakota, is pretty cozy with Bill Gates. And Bill Gates, in fact, gave $100,000 to his gubernatorial campaign or in support of his gubernatorial campaign. So I'm a bit concerned. And let's see, Doug Burgum is Department of Interior, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Interior, yes. And their relationship is based on nuclear energy. I think this says a lot more about Bill Gates than it does about Governor Burgum. Bill Gates is building these enormous data centers everywhere around the country because we're moving to this AI technology and AI requires technology. A huge amount of electricity and coupled with his micro with his AI data centers is he is constructing micro nuclear reactors because they need they need power. There was an article not long ago that Bill Gates is reopening a reactor to a three mile island, the famous three mile island where nothing happened. but the media scared us throughout the 80s that we were all going to die from nuclear fallout. Bill Gates is reopening Reactor 2 at Three Mile Island to power his new data center. I'm fine with that, but I have some huge concerns. Mostly, I think it's comical that for the rest of us, Bill Gates wants wind and solar. But when it comes to his profits... He wants nuclear, right? He's not building a wind farm, right? He's like, no, I need these things to work. I can't risk my data center on the wind or whether or not the sun is going to shine. I don't know where you are today, but here in rural Virginia, it's completely dark, cloudy, overcast, pouring rain, no wind. Your wind and solar right now is doing absolutely nothing. And Bill Gates says, I can't risk that. I got money to make. So he's building nuclear. That's a concern I have. And secondly, I'm concerned of the corporatism, because the American people deserve to reopen reactor two for cheap electricity. Why is it that corporations get to swoop in? So I'm not concerned at all about Doug Burgum. I think he's a fantastic pick. I think he understands the need for technology and reliable electricity, and he'll make sure it happens. I am concerned that people like Bill Gates get to write gigantic checks to get nuclear reactors built when our governors and our city councilmen, et cetera, don't have that same political pressure just because they want to serve their constituents. They will put crappy wind and solar that is inefficient, expensive, Chinese-made with slave labor. They'll stick the American people with that. But corporations that write big checks can get the good electricity. And that is a huge concern I have going forward.
SPEAKER 16 :
I love the fact that you are just right to the point, Daniel Turner. And I would recommend that people get on your list for PowerTheFuture.com. We'll talk again soon. And I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Kim. God bless.
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Back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Thank you, Joe. I just asked Joe a question, and he had that in my ear. if i lost my train of thought that's what happened there a couple of things i did want to mention the colorado union of taxpayers which is an all-volunteer group that watches legislation that is scheduled for hearing down at the state house and of course the legislature will convene the first part of january we'd love to have you be a member It's only $25. We are going to have a legislative kickoff on the 23rd of January. And we'd, again, love to have you join us. And it's only $25. And this group, when you see them, say thank you to Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honaker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, and Mary Jansen. They are spending a lot of time. to stay on top of all this, and I do really, really appreciate them. On the line with me is Rich Guggenheim, and he is the Colorado Director, I think, of Legislative Affairs for Gays Against Groomers. Rich Guggenheim, welcome. Did I get that right?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, actually, I am just the Director of Legislation for the whole country now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, so that's why you were in Washington, D.C., huh?
SPEAKER 17 :
That's correct. Yep. A lot bigger plate to deal with.
SPEAKER 16 :
This is huge, and you sent over some of the photos and videos of your time in Washington, D.C., and then you sent this over from Radar, and it says, Gays Against Groomers went to the U.S. Supreme Court to fight for Tennessee's right to save children. So when did you go, and again, this was the oral arguments on this particular case, so set this up for us. When did you go? What happened?
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, well, I'll set it up before I got there. We were asked as an organization if we would help write an amicus curiae. And I thought, sure, I've never done this before, but I will approach this from my background as a scientist and worked with several other organizations on this. We had detransitioners that were able to share their story. I approached it from a science background. and threw in some science journal articles from medical journals that showed the harm of it. I decided with others that we should throw in some case law that sets the case that says that states do not have the right to harm children, and that gender-affirming care is not, in fact, care, but is harmful, that we demonstrated in the science piece of it. And then the transition stories of the harms that have been caused by it, We were truly honored and humbled by the fact that this amicus out of the many, many, many amicus that were submitted was chosen for oral arguments. So I got to go. I got a ticket to be in the Supreme Court while oral arguments were happening. And that was truly a unique, humbling experience. Our friend Travis Morrell was there. I was also asked to speak at a rally that was being held outside on the steps of the Supreme Court. And I got to talk where I made it clear that we as gay and lesbian people have never supported anything that would harm children. And if the LGBTIQA plus community seeks to undo the harm that they have done to themselves, we've got to support policies that ensure the safety and well-being of our children. And so that happened. That was really intense. I had a lot of Media coverage, as you alluded to, some friendly and also some people that were very unfriendly towards all of that. And then afterwards, I had the opportunity to go over and have lunch at the Heritage Foundation. I did not realize that my speech was retweeted by Elon Musk, viewed over 22 million times.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and my phone's just going crazy with the pop-up notifications, and I'm like, oh, hey, I'm trying to read a speech. But that led to an incredible opportunity. I want to say thank you to our friends, Greg and Lisa Lopez, who opened so many doors for us. I got to speak with Speaker Mike Johnson. I got to talk with Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nancy Mace, Stephen Scalise, It was just a huge list of people that we got to speak to. And on Wednesday afternoon, we went over and spoke to Senator Marshall, Robert Marshall out of Kansas. And I had a dad with me whose son has, he's lost his son to a gender ideology, started transitioning at two. His ex started transitioning their two-year-old son. And I wanted him to hear that story. Because that's super impactful as a dad. I'm sure you can imagine this man telling the story and losing his child to this. And so the next day, Senator Marshall introduced a bill in the Senate to ban gender-affirming care on minors.
SPEAKER 16 :
Really? Yes. Okay, and that would be federal law, so that would be across the complete United States, yes?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes. And so I really hope that we can get all of the senators. This shouldn't even be, as you and I have talked, this should not be a right versus left. This should be right versus wrong. And I think that there should be 100 senators who will sign on to this bill. We know that's not going to be the case, but this is really going to put people on public record to show, do you support the mutilation of children? And that's one of the things that you may have seen the video about. We were in the Hall of Congress and we ran across AOC and we asked her, why do you support butchering children under the guise of inclusivity?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I watched that video that you sent over, yeah, and you were like a dogged journalist behind her and she just was really ignoring you.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, what you didn't see was she was having the gaggle That's a term referring to a small press conference. It's just a little group of media people. And one of the media outlets that was there just went off on us for interrupting his press conference. And I looked at him and I'm like, who are you? And he's like, I'm the press. I'm like, I'm her constituent. She works for me.
SPEAKER 16 :
You said that?
SPEAKER 17 :
I did. I did.
SPEAKER 16 :
Rich Guggenheim, this has been quite the journey for you. Did you ever dream that you would be in Washington, D.C. at the Supreme Court? This has been quite the journey.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, it has been the journey. And no, I never thought that I would do that. If you know where I'm from, I am from a little small town in Colorado. We don't even have a stoplight. It's a small town that is 14 blocks long and three blocks wide. And if the river floods, then it's even smaller. So it's, you know, you just, I will tell you this. If you've ever been to the state Capitol or you've ever been to Washington, D.C., this is our government. And it is so important for us to make our voices heard. And in this case, I had a truly humbling experience to be able to go there and tell this story and say that this ideology robs children of their innocence and it deprives them of the freedom to grow up and live healthy happy productive adult lives and we have to stop that
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it is such an attack on our children. So tell us about the Supreme Court case. And this is what Tennessee has a law that would be banning the gender mutilation of children. And they're being sued for that. So this has made it all to the Supreme Court, correct?
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. And this case is one of the, I think there are 24 states across the country right now that have passed bans on gender affirming, what's known as gender affirming care on minors. So this pediatric gender affirming care really comes down to being the right for some people to say to its bodily autonomy. What I don't believe is that a child can make a decision with their prefrontal cortex having not been developed to say, I want to pump myself full of hormones, wrong sex hormones. I want to pump myself full of off-label drugs that we know cause harm, sterility, cancer. And there's just so many side effects of this that we could go on all day about that. But you could read the science. We also, you know, we're chopping off healthy body parts. And it was absolutely shocking to me to hear Justice Sotomayor talk about removing healthy body parts from children as if it was a haircut. Now, you and I both know that our hair grows back. I have to go get my haircut every few weeks because of that. But if you chop off an arm, it's not going to grow back. If you chop off a leg, it's not going to grow back. And so this idea that it is something as simple as getting your haircut is so deeply insulting and shows an absolute lack of compassion for and understanding of human physiology and biology. She thinks that this is how it works. And I also thought when she's talking about this, how insulting it must be to women who have survived certain forms of cancer and have to have certain body parts removed for her to just say, remove it like it's a haircut.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and then I'd seen a headline regarding Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson that was trying to make this gender mutilation of children a civil rights issue. So were you there when she was commenting on that?
SPEAKER 17 :
I was. And it's not a civil right. It's a civil wrong. Nobody has the right. to mutilate a child, and a child does not have the right to consent to something that they cannot fully understand the lifetime of complications that are going to result from it. And I don't believe that. We heard people saying, oh, I knew my child was trans. They started telling me they were in the wrong body at 18 months. Your child can't even string together a coherent sentence at that age. Why are you insisting that they're trans? It's this logic. It's not logic. It is propaganda.
SPEAKER 16 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we are independent because of great sponsors. And I thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. All that is under attack because our oil, gas, and coal industry are under regulatory bureaucratic attack, particularly here in Colorado. We're at the tip of the spear for all of this stuff that's happening. We're at the tip of the spear, I think, on this gender mutilation of children as well. And that's why the Supreme Court case... And it's Grimetti versus Tennessee that was heard last week. And Rich Guggenheim, who lives here in Colorado, he is the director of legislative affairs for Gays Against Groomers. And Rich Guggenheim, set this up the day that you went to the Supreme Court, going into the chambers. What happened? How they introduced the case? What does all that look like?
SPEAKER 17 :
That is, well, first of all, you get there, if you are brave enough to camp out overnight, you camp out overnight. And then in this case, being such a high profile case, there's a lot of people there camping out. And you get there and you're waiting in this line and they come out and they hand out tickets. Under normal circumstances, they issue about 50 tickets. And then there's a public viewing line where the public is allowed to go in and view it for three minutes. In this case, they took away the public viewing line, and they opened up more seats for interested parties to come and sit. So you get in there, and then there's – it's very – it almost feels like pomp and circumstance to a certain extent. You know, when you come into a normal courtroom, everybody stands, and then there's – They say the honorable judge so-and-so is presiding, all rise. You stand up, the judge sits down, and you sit down. But then there's like this whole ceremony that comes along with this. You know, everybody stands up, and then they say the honorable justice so-and-so and the associate justices, and they read the theme, and they're like, oy, oy, oy, and it's – Then after that's done, they sit down. And each side, in this case, you have both sides of the attorneys on both sides representing. And in this case, the ACLU was representing the people who support mutilating children. And their attorney was the first transgender identifying person to argue a case before the United States Supreme Court. And then we had our side. Each side gets 30 minutes to make their case. And there's some back and forth between the justices and the attorneys on these issues. And it was quite a fascinating experience. For those of you who, your listeners who may be interested, you can go to the Supreme Court website and listen to the audio version of it. You can't bring anything into the courtroom with you. You can't even bring your Apple Watch with you. So everything comes off. And it's quite fascinating because, you know, you're just there and it is so much to take in. It's quite the experience. You know, you're just trying to. really use all of your senses while you're there to absorb the moment that you are living in right now. And I truly, honestly believe that this was a defining moment in the history of the United States. And it's going to change the trajectory that we are going down with gender ideology. This is the first domino to fall.
SPEAKER 16 :
So all of the justices come in and each side has 30 minutes to present. Is there a back and forth between each side as they're presenting and the justices? Do they ask questions or what does that look like?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it's usually, you know, you have each side gets their 30 minutes and the justices will go back and forth with that lawyer and they'll say this. There's questions that they're going to ask and statements that they're going to make during it that kind of gave you a clue as to the cards that they're going to play. I think when they issue their, it's called an opinion, not a ruling or a verdict. So when they issue their opinion, you can kind of tell where they're leaning. I really felt that there's a great, strong presence among some of the justices that they are going to oppose this. And then there's others. And I have to say this about Justice Barrett. She seems more neutral on this issue, maybe even a little bit on the fence. And so I'm hoping that that's just because she actually has some jurisprudence on this and she is discreet. But then there are others that you could just tell, like, oh, yeah, we are playing this as a social justice right. Or no, we are absolutely opposed to this. And so it's kind of fascinating to see that piece of it as you're sitting there and you're listening. You can almost tell. And there are just moments in that there where you hear the argument being made. And for me, you know, you're trying to keep your composure because you're absolutely silent in this room. But you get that knot in your stomach as you hear it. And then there's other times where you're just like, yes, zing. And so it's kind of an emotional roller coaster for you being in that courtroom. And I suppose it's that way for everybody, regardless of what side of the issue you're on on that particular case.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wow. Okay. So and how long was the case heard?
SPEAKER 17 :
it's, it's, it runs about an hour to an hour and a half. It gets, you know, with all of the, the, the pieces that take up the most time, honestly, are for us to get in there, put our stuff in the locker, go through the security. And it's like the thing that you go through at the airport where you stand there and you put your arm up and it goes around you. And it's literally the same kind of same machine. And so by the time everybody gets through that and into that, and you get into your seat and it's, You're in there for probably a good two and a half to three hours.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Okay. Next question. I saw this article that just recently came out. Let me give the credit here. This is from, it's called Stacker. And it says, how the Supreme Court case on trans youth could affect health care for all Americans. Okay. And it says this case, and again, they use all the words of gender affirming care. No, it's gender mutilation. So I'll change some of the words. It says the Supreme Court case that will decide whether Tennessee can continue to ban gender mutilation for transgender youth could imperil the ability of all Americans to make decisions about their health care, experts say. The outcome depends on how far the court is willing to stretch its ruling that overturned federal abortion rights. And I love it when they say experts, but they don't say who that expert is. This is all part of, I think, kind of journalism that's trying to affect people's opinions. So what would you say to this? Is there trying to use this as a, quote unquote, a scare tactic for people to make decisions about their health care?
SPEAKER 17 :
That's exactly what it is. And it has nothing to do with that. The whole premise of this case is ending the gender mutilation of children. This is not about depriving anybody of the rights to receive health care because this is not care. This isn't about health. It deprives people of that. And as I said earlier, this is about forcing an ideology on children and parents without giving them all of the facts that will later deprive children of of the freedom to live happy, healthy, productive adult lives. And that's wrong. There's nothing, nothing acceptable about what we're doing to children, and we're literally butchering them and sterilizing them. And the fact that a lot of parents, and a lot of people say we should be going after the parents. I think a lot of parents are also manipulated into this because we have this pharma-medical media industry lying to them, withholding information from them. And you may have heard about the lawsuit that was filed against the top pediatric gender sex change operator. That person is also the same person who withheld publishing information in science that showed that there was no positive outcomes for children who undergo this emotionally.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. And I'm seeing all kinds of headlines on bureaucrats that are manipulating data, whether or not it might be water quality or this. These bureaucratic agencies have really lost about all credit with me, and I think many more people are waking up to that as well. Rich Guggenheim.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, absolutely. And I think that's the important thing that we have to, we have to shine the light on this stuff. And I think as you say, these experts. People don't trust the experts anymore because the truth is coming out. We don't trust the media anymore, and that's why you see legacy media dying. We don't trust the science anymore because the scientists are being bought and paid for by special interests. And it's these same people who are buying up the media, buying up the politicians, and driving this agenda that is harming Americans and depriving us of freedom and liberty.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and that's why the work that you're doing is so important. So just clarify just one more time. You said that Elon Musk tweeted out, or not tweeted, X'd out, I guess, your speech from the steps of the Supreme Court. And 23 million people looked at that. Did I hear that correctly?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, which was, it was crazy. Yep, that is right. And I really... if he ever gets the opportunity to hear me or meet me or hear this, I just, I appreciate what he is doing to protect children. And he's got a special interest in this as his own child with one of his own children. So yeah, 23 million people have viewed that speech and it's, it was crazy. And one of the experiences to walk into the heritage foundation and they have a big screen in their, in their lobby with all the new stuff. And there's literally me doing a media interview on TV at the heritage foundation and
SPEAKER 16 :
That's really cool. How can people find the speech?
SPEAKER 17 :
You can find it on our Gays Against Groomers X feed. It's against groomers. You can also find it online. I've got it online. It's 5280 based homo. And I've got that. And you can see some of the other clips that were more interesting during my time there at the U.S. Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, Rich Guggenheim, changing gears just a little bit, kind of the final question, is Colorado is really at the tip of the spear on this transgender mutilation of children with legislation and bureaucratic decisions. Do you, your ear to the ground, do you hear of any other things regarding this whole gender question that's going to be brought forth in this next legislative session?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, there is this rumor that I'm hearing that there is a plan to introduce a transgender bill of rights here in Colorado. I worked with some of our representatives during the interim to write bills. I've got about 10 bills that I've proposed. I know one of them that has been, we're going to continue working on a parent's bill of rights. We've got a detransitioners bill of rights. There's one, again, that we're going to try again with our ballot initiative to save girls' sports. Um, we are coming up when there's a faith act, which is going to prevent non custodial parents from sheltering and housing children. We've got the stream act, which will require schools to stream all classroom content because it really helps neurodivergent children who get sick. I love to not get behind, but, um, you know, we've got so many bills that we're working on. And just so you know, at the federal level, since I've been in DC, I talked to, um, Senator Marshall, as I said, but I've also talked to our own Lauren Boebert, and I've talked with Nancy Mace, and I submitted three draft bills to introduce at the federal level, Save Girls Sports, Parents Bill of Rights, and Detransitioners Bill of Rights.
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Wow. How can people follow you, and how can people help you?
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Well, you can follow me on 5280BasedHomo on all of the socials. You can also follow Gays Against Screamers. And, you know, I'll just say this. As you can imagine, these things all cost money. This trip to D.C. alone was about $1,600. So anybody who can donate to help cover those costs, we definitely appreciate your donation. If you are part of the LGB or T community, join us if this is something that you believe in protecting children. And if you're just an ally, we definitely need you in this fight, too. Go to our website. Subscribe to our newsletter. Follow us on all of the socials. And when we have rallies, when we have school board meetings, when we have the need to sign up and testify at the state capitol, at the school board, at the city council, I just did a training on Saturday night on how to testify. We need people to show up and testify. These are your children. These are our children that are being mutilated. And we have to fight to protect them. And I know we work. I know we have a lot on our plates. But Our children are the most sacred thing that we have been entrusted to provide for and take care of, and we need to do all we can to protect them.
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Well, I totally agree. And, Rich Guggenheim, thank you. And thank you. Pretty exciting, pretty impressive, and pretty courageous on going to Washington, D.C. So keep me in the loop on everything that's happening. I greatly appreciate it.
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Yeah, will do. Thank you, Kim.
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It's closing its doors for good on December 31st, according to social media posts. And it says the advent of COVID, steadily increasing costs, including food, paper products, wages, insurance, and taxes, have forced us to raise prices to levels that are increasingly not affordable for many of our customers, the owner said in a post. Try as we might, we have not found a satisfying solution to the challenges we face. We give a heartfelt thanks to those of you who have supported us for these many years. And it says for 66 years, the family owned restaurant has offered Democrats affordable Mexican style dishes beyond just tacos. And the owner said taco houses, cheese enchiladas and enchilada sauce had become signature menu items. But get that. Do you hear this increasing costs? That would be government induced inflation, insurance costs and taxes. So those are the things that we need to get under control. 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God is the only One you can rely on to be faithful to you. “Faithful is He that calls you who will also do it” (1 Thes 5:24). His absolute faithfulness is His grace expression to you. “Great is Your faithfulness” (Lam 3:23). To reciprocate and be faithful to God, you must keep growing spiritually. The more you learn of God’s Word and grow in your advance to spiritual maturity, the more you are responsible for. God expects you to be faithful and to glorify Him. “From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.” (Luke 12:48).
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out like this. There is a unique way to live this
Christian life and it’s based on two things. It's based on number one, the filling of God the Holy
Spirit and that's our first problem-solving device because when we become a Christian, we still
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have a sin nature. This doesn't go away and we’re still capable of sinning so when we sin, we are
able to use the rebound technique, problem-solving device #1. If we go to God and do what 1
John 1:9 says,
“If we confess our sin, He is faithful and just to forgive us and to purify us from
all of our wrongdoing.”
This gets you back in fellowship with God. You see, when we sin, we
break fellowship with God. The Holy Spirit is quenched and the Holy Spirit is grieved when we
sin. Keep in mind that sin can be in three areas, something we think, something we say, or
something we do. When we get back in fellowship, we are confessing the sins that we
committed, not to the priest, but to God because you are a priest. You are a believer priest. You
don't need a priest to confess your sins to, you go right to the Father. You can confess your own
sins and be filled with the Holy Spirit. The minute you name your known sins to God, then the
Holy Spirit is no longer quenched. He's no longer grieved and now He's filling you. The
objective is,
“The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness,
meekness, and mercy”
(Galatians 5:22-23). This is the humility profile of Jesus Christ and as we
grow, as we mature, we develop this profile by means of the Holy Spirit. As we,
“Study to show
ourselves approved unto God”
(2 Timothy 2:15),
“Grow in the grace and the knowledge of our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ”
(2 Peter 3:18),
“Take His yoke upon us and learn of
Him”
(Matthew 11:29), then we begin to take on the character of Christ. We begin to emulate
Christ. We begin to replicate the life of Christ to our friends. They see Christ in us and as we
grow, there are some attitudes that we must develop. This is what this show has been about the
last few weeks. I've highlighted several things that are critical for you to do to make the most of
the time that God allows you to have on this planet. He is only going to allow you so much time
and you cannot afford to waste time and so I identified some things and we have been through
them. By the way, I showed you the two different words for time in the Bible. I don't know if you
remember but let's go back. One of them is
chronos.
It’s a noun, it refers to the time on the clock.
It's 8:07 PM, this is
chronos
. Then there's
kairos
, this is also translated time. It's a moment in
time measured by the quality of that time. When 2 Corinthians 6:2 says,
“This is the day of
salvation,”
it's
kairos
. It's not talking about at 8:07 PM you need to get saved. It’s talking about
this day, this is the day, this is the time. It's time for us to grow up. It's time for us to take our life
seriously, that’s
kairos.
As we get time right, then we see the need to be punctual and I dealt with
punctuality on one of our radio shows. Punctuality is one of our attitudes that are very critical,
then to have patience, then to set priorities in your life. Today as we move forward we want to
move into being prudent.
Prudence is very necessary for any believer in Jesus Christ.
We
have got to have prudence. It's a required character asset. You say “What is prudence?” You
should look at yourself and say, “Am I a prudent person?” The definition is, it's the quality of
being cautious. It’s good judgment that allows us to avoid certain dangers in our life, having
correct knowledge about how things should be done so that we determine the right thing to do in
any situation.
In God's plan, prudence is the same as being faithful.
There are some concepts
concerning faithfulness that we need to look at today. Here's the first one and I don't ever want
you to forget this.
God is always faithful to you.
1 Corinthians 10:13 tells you. I don't know
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what you're going through, what difficulty you may be facing, but here's what it says.
“No trial
has overtaken you that is not faced by others and God is faithful
[there it is, God's always
faithful, this is a descriptive adjective meaning He's reliable].
He will not let you be tried beyond
what you're able to bear, but with the trial will provide a way out so that you may be able to
endure it.”
Listen to 2 Thessalonians 3:3,
“The Lord is faithful,”
same word,
pistis
and this
means that,
“He will strengthen you and protect you from the evil one.”
There's only one
person in your life that is totally faithful and this is God. His divine faithfulness is His grace
expression to you using His perfect character as a basis for this expression.
For example I
just gave you 1 John 1:9. I told you,
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and He just to forgive
us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
He is faithful, He'll do this every time. Every time
you know you’ve sinned and you go to the Father and admit your sin, which is the key to being
filled with the Spirit, when you admit your sin, He's faithful and just [He does it every time] to
forgive you and cleanse you. Then listen to 1 Thessalonians 5:24,
“Faithful is He that calls you,
who will also do it.”
“Great is Your faithfulness”
(Lamentations 3:23).
Here are a few
principles on faithfulness that are worth remembering. Faithfulness or reliability is not just a
divine characteristic. In other words, if you can rely on God, does it seem to make sense that
maybe He would like to be able to rely on you, that God would like for you to be faithful also?
God fully expects the same personality trait in your life as a mature believer. In other words, He
expects you to be faithful, to be trustworthy, to have integrity. The absence of your faithfulness
or your reliability is called faithlessness. This means you're not dependable. God can't depend on
you and this usually means you're easily distracted or you get easily discouraged. You don't live
your life replicating the life of Christ, so you're not giving maximum glory to God. You're not
glorifying God with your life. You're not living faithfully. Some people are going to tell you,
“You know brother, if you’re going to be faithful,” and they'll come up with a list of to-do's and
you will be to-doin until you can't to-do anymore. Who knows how many to-do’s they’ve got?
This is not faithfulness, this is legalism. This is putting you in binds and chains and telling you,
“If you were really faithful brother, you would do this and you would do that.” If you’re faithful,
you will stay filled with the Spirit. If you’re faithful, you will grow in the grace and the
knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. If you're faithful, you are to replicate the life of
Christ by means of the filling of the Holy Spirit. Whatever your spiritual gift is, between you and
God you'll figure it out, if you will let Him use you, He will use you in that venue. Faithless is
not something you want to be called. Faithlessness is not being true to your allegiance of duty. In
other words, if you're faithless, if you have a lack of fidelity, if you're disloyal, it's sort of like the
military soldier going AWOL.
Luke 12:48 says,
“From everyone who has been given much,
much will be required and from the one who's been entrusted with much, even more will be
asked of him.”
The more you know, the more you're going to be responsible for. God expects
faithfulness on your part. Now, if you're a mature believer, I don't know, what do you call a
mature believer? Well, if you’ve been a Christian a few years and you’ve stayed filled the Holy
Spirit and you sit under the ministry of a well-qualified pastor, you should be able to say by now,
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“I'm probably a mature believer.” You’re not going to stay in the first grade all of your life unless
you get into a routine of going to church an hour and a half a week. If you go 30 minutes on
Sunday morning, 30 minutes on Sunday night, 30 minutes on Wednesday, you're never going to
grow up. I don't care how much the pastor teaches you, you’re not going to grow up. It takes
more than an hour and a half a week. What if you sent your kid to the first grade an hour and a
half a week? They would never get out of the first grade. When 2 Timothy 2:15 says,
“Study to
show thyself approved unto God,”
it means a daily routine. Daily you sit under the ministry of
the pastor. Daily you take in God's Word and there's nothing wrong with listening to the Word of
God taught to you every day by a well-qualified pastor. You say, “Well, how do you do this?”
You do it maybe the same way I do it, by DVD or an MP3, and I listen to my pastor teach me the
Word of God on a daily basis. I do it at home at night in my study and I’ve got my Bible, my
notebook, I'm listening, I'm learning and as I learn I recall. You know that the rate of forgetting
can exceed the rate of learning and you're in trouble when this happens. The prudent believer is
going to have a high security clearance with God. God's going to be able to trust you. He's going
to be able to give you things, to entrust you with things because you're faithful and you will do
the right thing in the midst of the angelic conflict. We are in an arena of contention, you know
this. This is the one thing that Satan wants you to do, to be faithless, turn your back on the Lord,
go down the My Way Highway, do what you want to do, get distracted, get discouraged, and let
him defeat you. If you're doing the right thing, if you're going to live the way God wants you to
live, this means doing the right thing when nobody is looking. Do you think no one is looking,
that nobody sees you? Listen to 2 Chronicles 16:9,
“The eyes of the Lord run to and fro
throughout the whole earth so that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely
His.”
The eyes of the Lord, this is an anthropopathism, it’s a big word I know. What it means is
we’re using human characteristics to reveal and explain God's policy toward man. God doesn't
have eyes, not like you and I do. He's omniscient, He's all-knowing. He’s omnipresent, He's
everywhere. He’s immanent, and He’s transcendent. To try to help us understand what God
knows, the writer says that the Lord has eyes and He's looking at you. Job 34:21,
“For His eyes
are upon the ways of man and He sees all of his steps.”
This is not God sitting in heaven on a big
white throne watching the earth and watching everyone of us. This is the way we sometimes
think about it in our mind but it's different. God is omniscient. God can be in your church and in
my church on Sunday morning and even when we're gone, He is still there because He’s
immanent and transcendent. Some say, “We had a great worship service and we felt the Lord. He
was here tonight.” He's there every night. He's in you. He lives in you and sometimes we get
emotional when we think that we called God into the house and God is always in this house
because of His omnipresence. He's able to be in your city and in my city at the same time and
you don't have any more of Him than I do. Keep in mind that Satan, a.k.a. the devil, is not
omnipresent. He cannot be in different places at one time. He is a created being so he can only be
in one place at one time. Proverbs 15:3,
“The eyes of the Lord are in everyplace watching evil
and watching good.”
So we understand these things, that the Lord is well aware of our
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faithfulness and He's well aware of our faithlessness. Proverbs 13:15,
“Good understanding
gains favor, but the way of the unfaithful is hard.”
When you allow yourself to get out of
fellowship, you don’t stay filled with the Holy Spirit, you don't take in God's Word consistently,
you're not growing in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, you're
going to have a hard life because you're going to go down the My Way Highway. You’re going to
be thinking in terms of human viewpoint, not divine viewpoint. This word unfaithful, Proverbs
13:15,
“Good understanding gains favor, but the way of the unfaithful is hard.”
Unfaithful is
often translated in the Hebrew, the transgressor or the treacherous one. The Hebrew word is
bagad
and it's a verb that means being deceitful. Actually, it means to hide something under a
garment, to act covertly, even fraudulently like to steal money or in a bank, have some guy as an
investor and he steals all your money. He's a fraud. He asked covertly so that when you want to
cash in, there's nothing there, a Ponzi scheme sort of guy, that's kind of the idea. God can't
depend on Ponzi's. In Joshua 7:10, there's a place there where,
“They've stolen and deceived the
people of Israel and put what they stole among their own stuff.”
This was after the battle of
Jericho and it’s dealing with the sin of Achan, the unfaithful transgressor (Joshua 7:19 and 21).
Achan was told not to take anything out of Jericho once they defeated them at the battle of
Jericho but he did. He stole some things, some garments and some silver. He hid it in his tent and
God knew it and they were not able to defeat the enemy because of the sin in the camp. I’m
going to tell you something. If you're married and you have a family and there’s sin in the camp,
it’ll ruin your family. If you try to hide it, you try to make like it's not there, it'll ruin your family
because you're being unfaithful. You're sinning, you're hiding something from your spouse and
you know it. Whenever the rate of forgetting exceeds the rate of learning then you can begin to
have forgetfulness. If you’re forgetful, it fuels unfaithfulness. It fuels you not being prudent
because you forgot the things that you learned in Sunday school. You forgot the things that you
learned from your pastor and so when the time comes to do something and do it the right way,
you can't remember and so you are faithless. You say, “Where did you get some idea like that
Rick, about forgetting this?” Well listen to Isaiah 17:10.
“You have forgotten the God of your
salvation.”
Here is the prophet Isaiah speaking to the Northern Kingdom of Israel when they
committed the sin that they were expressly told not to do. Listen to what Moses wrote in
Deuteronomy 8:11,
“Beware that you do not forget the Lord your God by not keeping His
mandates, His judgments, and His statutes which I command you today.”
One of the things that
happens in the downfall of the nation, is the promises of God, the provisions of God, the
principles of God are forgotten and people begin to operate only on human viewpoint.
When you take God out of the schools, when you take God out of the public arena, people don't
remember certain things, and they forget it, and they are easily persuaded to follow a lie.
No
believer can ever be faithful if he doesn't keep growing.
You have to keep growing and you
grow sometimes by looking back, reviewing what you did, and looking forward or advancing.
You look back and remember what you studied and you advance and look forward. Faithfulness
is one of the requirements for a local church. If you're in a church, it can't function without the
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people being faithful. Your pastor has to be faithful to study and teach. The congregation has to
be faithful to learn what he's teaching and then apply it into their life. No church can function if
its members come only when it's convenient. Some churches actually do this today. They
schedule services to make it convenient for members to attend.
Sacrifice, faithfulness, patience,
they are all key attributes in the local church.
They are all required to have a local church. I
don't know what your local church is like but it has to have these things. Now, we move from
prudence into the right perspective in your life following the letter P. We’re using the P’s
alliteration. Having the right perspective means you advance spiritually. Your advance, the way
you grow, depends on your perspective of history. In other words how you look at things, how
you see yourself. Arrogant people don't see themselves as they really are. They see themselves as
they think they are. If they look into the mirror, an arrogant person doesn't see the real him. He
sees an illusion. He sees something that's not really him and he becomes self-centered. If you're
self-centered, self-centered believers have the wrong perspective in the spiritual life. This self-
centered arrogance is the sister of self-righteous arrogance and both of those people are blind.
The self-centered person is blind. The self-righteous person is blind. Neither one of them see
themselves as they really are. They do not have the right perspective about life. Self-centered
believers, they have no objectivity when it comes to other people because they always blame
other people for what they themselves are actually responsible for but they never take credit or
responsibility for it. They always blame it on somebody else. They're childish, proud, and
intolerant of criticism. Self-centered people often want to be in the limelight and boast. They can
be argumentative and get easily bored. This sort of self-centeredness, if you have it or you know
somebody that has it, it'll destroy any capacity for happiness in their life. For example, all
criminals are self-centered. I mean, they justify why it's okay to steal from you, they’re self-
centered. Most politicians are self-centered.
The only cure for a self-centered person is
humility, whether this humility is genuine or whether this humility is enforced by God's
discipline.
This is the only way you can break this self-centeredness. Paul's perspective is seen in
Philippians 3:8 when he said,
“Doubtless, I count all things but loss except for the excellency of
the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and I count
everything in my life but dung that I may win Christ.”
Dung, it’s called a
skubala
metaphor.
Dung is scat, its excrement. He said, “Everything I did in the past is all excrement. [It’s far more
than that]. I consider everything to be worthless because I'm much better off knowing Christ
Jesus my Lord and it's because of Him that I think of everything as worthless. I threw it all away
in order to gain Christ.” In Paul's perspective, religious self-confidence meant nothing to him.
Occupation with Christ was the most important thing to him. I hope you’re learning. I enjoy
hearing from you and love hearing how the Lord is working in your life. There’s a lot I have to
say about this. Until next week I'm your host Rick Hughes saying thank you for being with me
on The FLOT Line
