In this episode, we delve into the high-profile acquittal of Daniel Penny, a young man who was recently cleared of charges after a controversial incident in New York City. The verdict has stirred debates on public safety, the judicial system, and the political overtones that often taint legal proceedings. As our hosts and experts unpack the layers of this case, we explore the broader implications for civic action and how this reflects on the priorities of law enforcement in major urban centers. Join us to understand the nuances behind what some call a modern Good Samaritan story and its impact on public perception. Simultaneously, the episode casts a critical eye on America's foreign policy, particularly in the tumultuous regions of the Middle East. As geopolitical tensions continue to rise, our discussion encompasses the swift military and diplomatic changes affecting Israel and Syria. With expert insights, we assess how these developments could shape future U.S. strategies in the region, especially as new leadership takes charge in Washington. This is a pivotal moment that underscores the intersection of local justice systems and global diplomacy.
SPEAKER 06 :
breaking news today on seculo marine daniel penny acquitted in new york keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo we want to hear from you share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110 And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, folks, right to it. So a good indication that even in New York State court. When you've got a jury of your peers and they see the evidence, they know the crime that's in the city, and they see a young man who stepped up to help protect people on a subway, they're stuck in a subway, there's nowhere to run, a guy who was threatening to kill people, a guy who was totally out of control, Daniel Penny subdues him. and in the process he was a former military person so they tried to use that against him by the way but he's brave he took his own life at risk immediately to save others and New York instead of going after all the other criminals in New York has spent their time you know trying to prosecute Donald Trump and Daniel Penny well when the jury heard all the evidence we already knew the manslaughter was out they supposedly deadlocked on that but it's interesting because then the judge brought in the second charge that they had to decide on which is lower than manslaughter second degree manslaughter which is negligent homicide and they when they went to the jury on that they found him not guilty so I'm not sure why And sometimes that's just the jury not understanding the complex differences, why this didn't happen last week. But it is a good sign that our legal system in the U.S. still can be saved.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely. I think that this is a very positive sign. Computers need to keep losing these cases. Because when you have a situation where anyone would watch and hear what happened in this, read the things and go, this guy was a hero stepping up. There was a mother with a baby in a stroller who came in. And yes, sadly, did the guy pass away? Of course. But... beyond that still saved probably a lot of people's lives and certainly a lot of trauma in this situation you also and again of course the marine in this situation you had a jury that as you said uh spent a lot of time on this this wasn't a quick one day it was over so much so the judge had to re-instruct them to go back because they were like essentially at that point they become like a hung jury they're scared i think one or two of them were scared they're threatened one or two of them scared, went back for the weekend, said, you know, think about it essentially, came back and they had an answer this morning. Yes, you do have a lot of unrest right now in New York where a lot of threats of riots that may be coming tonight. Here's the problem on these situations.
SPEAKER 09 :
We have to get to a point where if you protect people in public and the person who you're protecting them from was making those threats and was also on a serious amount of drugs. They can't even determine, because of the amount of drugs he was on, how he died or why. He probably should not have died from the way he was subdued. But he did. But even if he did. And you know what? He was threatening to kill people. Right. And this guy was brave enough to step up, unlike we've seen horrible incidents when someone does it and someone even just brings out a knife in New York and will kill three or four people who are stuck in that subway. car so again we have to keep winning these why because we have to get to a point where daniel penny doesn't have to go bankrupt or raise hundreds of thousands of dollars on kickstarter to defend himself because these cases shouldn't be in court they should be investigated because someone died and that should be it
SPEAKER 07 :
And Jordan, it can't be lost on who the prosecutor was that decided to go after Daniel Penny for being a hero. Alvin Bragg, the same district attorney that decided to go after President Trump and to create out of whole cloth a way to use state law against him for what would have been campaign finance violations and try to make a political prosecution there. It's all political in New York. It needs to get back to protecting the people of the city and prosecuting the real criminals.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Americans love New York. It's almost like wherever you're from, whenever you go to New York, you meet Americans from all over the country. It's the capital of the world. It's the second capital of the United States. We've got Washington, D.C., New York, and then I'd say like L.A. and San Francisco kind of are the core four. And we want it back to a place where, one, if you need to protect yourself, you can. Right now, there's a place where it feels like that more often than not. So... justice saved here we got a lot to talk about we'll take your calls 1-800-684-3110 support the work of the aclj i think this is going to be a big part of the next year is getting our justice system back in order donate today your gift is doubled aclj.org All right, welcome back to Seculo. I will continue to take calls to 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. If you want to talk about Daniel Penny, I just think it's a good example of the legal system working, the jury system working, but still such a waste of resources for Daniel Penny. and his family the fact that he's a name it makes it very dangerous for him to live and of course what it can cause to the city when you bring charges that you try to make into these most racially motivated murders that are instead just a guy protecting the rest of the people who are racially diverse on a subway train and a heavy drug user doesn't make it out alive who was threatening to kill people and we demonized the guy who protected the subway users I want to go though to write to Rick Rennell because there's some major shifting of course international news and the stories are all over the place Rick first off we're saying you know Israel say listen we started that I think the best description from any Israeli analyst was we started the dominoes and then when we start the dominoes in Israel and we've not yet done that before until we started taking out top Hezbollah and Hamas leadership once we started the dominoes the Netanyahu told Assad they're coming for you next and they're you know they're not gonna the other guys can't protect you Hezbollah's been decimated and Russia's stuck in Ukraine
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, one thing we should make perfectly clear is that we're in this situation because of the Biden administration, how weak their policies have been and how much they've funded Iran and all of Iran's proxies. But I think that regular folks within the Middle East have had enough and they're really fighting back. And certainly Israel has given so many people hope including in Lebanon, when they've taken on the fight of Hezbollah. This is a fight that they've done without the Biden administration's help. And I would also say, in spite of the Biden administration, they've really tried to hold a lot of the progress back. A lot of this should have been cleaned up immediately. We shouldn't have had October 7th, but if it did happen, you should allow the Israelis to go in and defend their country and clean up the situation. And we shouldn't be in this more than a year later. But it's because the Biden administration has really held the players in the region, you know, with one hand tied behind their back for a variety of countries. I do think that what's happening in Syria now, President Trump is exactly right. We need to let it play out a little bit. We don't need to get involved. We do have troops there. And I think the Biden team needs to hear President Trump loud and clearly that we don't need to be using our troops. But that doesn't mean that we can't be diplomatic leaders and have the State Department be able to do its job in our embassies and around the world. And we should play a leadership role without playing a military role.
SPEAKER 09 :
I wanted to ask you about the troops, Rick, because I know our listeners, I remember when Tulsi Gabbard would talk to us about the troops that are still out in Syria, still basically as close to the front lines as you can be when you're battling these multifaceted Islamist groups and you've got Assad's groups and you've got the Hezbollah back then and also these more radical groups and then you're kind of stuck in the middle as the Americans of who to trust and who to fight with. We see the Kurds they're already going after, but how how much in danger are those 900 troops right now because I saw that Russia made a deal with these insurgents that Russian assets, Russian airports and bases are not going to be attacked and embassies and their staff but can the U.S. make a deal like I mean it doesn't you know we don't quite have the same kind of access points to these radical groups
SPEAKER 01 :
Look, we have troops there because we wanted to make sure that Christians were protected and that ISIS didn't take hold. We can debate whether or not that's too many troops, whether we could have done it from another place. But the idea at the time was to keep a small number of troops there. so that ISIS wouldn't be able to come back in a strong way. Remember, Donald Trump defeated ISIS. So this is one of those situations where we wanna make sure that ISIS doesn't come back in. The brutal treatment of Christians is just one of the reasons why we wanna make sure that ISIS doesn't come back. But I actually believe that we have a NATO ally in Turkey. And I know that Turkey has not been perfect, And we've ignored Turkey for too long. But my idea is that if you are going to be in a NATO membership agreement with Turkey, which we have been since 1952, then you can't treat them as a non-NATO member. We share intelligence with Turkey. We need to get them more on our side. And the Turks care very deeply about what's happening in this region. Again, they are a NATO ally and I would force the critics of Turkey to come clean and either say that they want Turkey out of NATO or we should deal with the reality that Turkey is in NATO and they need to be a closer ally. We haven't done a very good job of really pressuring Turkey to be a better ally, be better with Israel and to help us in certain ways. Remember, Turkey has a very interesting relationship with Russia. Sometimes they're close to Russia, and sometimes they are the blunt force to stop Putin. Erdogan is somebody who I think has some power there. And President Trump recognizes that we have to deal with the leader of Turkey as a NATO ally, and we need to get them more on our side. I think they can do a lot in Syria. Syria right now is a mess. But remember that all of the rebel groups that have been going up against Assad and against Iran and against Russia for a long time, they were united just because they were the opposition. They're not united because they believe the same way. So now that Assad is gone and the Syrian government has fallen, now we need to be very cautious because we don't know within that rebel group, that within that opposition group, we really don't know who's going to rise up. There are some bad actors in there and there are some decent actors in that group. We need to give it a little more time, and President Trump is right, to just wait and see what happens.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, we know some of the bad actors coming from the Al-Nusra Front, which was kind of a break off of Al-Qaeda to be kind of a militant group instead of just a terror group that hides in the shadows but actually goes into cities. But you mentioned that there are some other groups involved here. Are there names of those groups that listeners and our viewers can start trying to get updated about so they understand. They love understanding these issues, Rick, and explaining it to their friends and family. So if there's those additional actors, if you're able to name them, it would be, I think, helpful for the audience.
SPEAKER 01 :
Look, I want to slow down and make sure that we get these facts right. There are many opposition groups that have come together And we still don't know exactly the numbers. We don't know who is in control. We see a lot of differing information from the different groups on social media. Some who have risen up to say that they're in leadership positions are former Al Qaeda members. You've got other organizations that I think are suspect and some that are quite good. Certainly we know the Kurds are there. And yet we have to be honest with the Kurds, thank them for all the help that they've given us, but also be realistic about the chances of the Kurds coming into a leadership role, which I don't think is going to happen. So I think we should just slow down and wait to see who rises up and who these different groups actually are. There's a lot of misinformation out there, and we're not exactly sure who's part of the rebel groups. And so I'd like to make sure that we give it a little time. I think President Trump's warning of let it play out a little bit more is exactly right. And let me finish with this, Jordan, is you know, the big mystery in the Middle East has always been, are these dictatorships, these governments that are human rights abusers, is it going to get worse when they fall? And should we take a slower approach? This is one of the strengths of Donald Trump, is to deal with the reality on the ground rather than to send in the Americans and try to completely take over the situation or handpick who should be in charge. And then that completely backfires on us. Donald Trump is a realist. He wants to deal with how the situation unfolds. That's why I talk about Turkey. Turkey is going to play a major role. Syria is a border country with Turkey. They care very deeply about the humanitarian situation. As a NATO ally, I think we should defer to Turkey and hear them out first before we begin to pick any players as to who's going to rise up and be in charge.
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SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they brought him to the lower church, which could have been four years still in prison. But what happened here, okay, just so everyone knows again. No, I think it was on the lesser church.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right, the manslaughter church.
SPEAKER 08 :
It would have been a much higher. He was deadlocked. They couldn't figure it out. I think they said there's maybe one or two is what a lot of the experts were saying. One or two of the jurors were not sure, but found not guilty. To clarify for everyone, that means this is over, right? Like he walks free.
SPEAKER 09 :
He walks free. Again, there can be civil cases. He'll have plenty of people supporting him, I think, through that. But the next question is, does New York cause a riot?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we'll see. Let's go, though, to that phone call. Let's go to Jerry, who's calling in Rhode Island, listening on the radio. Jerry, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good morning, team. It's a good day. My phone's blowing up with former Marines, former law enforcement. We're hoping that the prayers and donations, including from ACLJ listeners, that covered the GoFundMe. Hopefully we prepare all that. And wouldn't it be great to see Sergeant Penny either at the inaugural or in a Trump position somewhere down the road?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Jerry, I think a lot of people feel at least a relief in the sense of, as Jordan said, that the judicial system seemed to be honest and fair this time. It seemed to work out in a way, because everyone looking at the facts of this, I'm sorry, if you look at the facts of what happened and you watch what happened, how you can say that this person did the wrong thing. Deserves to be in jail for the rest of his adult life.
SPEAKER 09 :
Coming out of jail when he beat 60-something years old because he saved people on a subway train from a bad actor who probably should have been out in public.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in that second-degree manslaughter charge, which was the first thing that the jury was deadlocked on last week, the judge sent it back to them with some more instruction, came back still deadlocked, and then the judge said, all right, I'm just missing that charge, the higher charge of second-degree manslaughter. And then told the jury, look at the lesser charge of negligent homicide. The jury on Friday then had a question about the reasonable person language within negligent homicide, which would mean that did Daniel Penny act outside of what a reasonable person in their right state of mind would do? and what as you mentioned Jordan is interesting is that they were so quickly able to acquit him of the lesser charge when they were deadlocked on the more serious one now this lesser charge would have still carried around four years in prison potentially so he he was still facing the jeopardy of prison time I know that the father of Neely who was the the person who died in the attack He has already filed a large civil lawsuit against Daniel Penny. But when you heard the witnesses that there was a mother who had her five-year-old son that was taking him to a doctor's appointment and barricaded him behind a stroller, another woman called it a satanic rant. that Neely was going on. These people were terrorized and living in fear in that moment on that train. And as you say, you never know what a jury is going to decide or come out with and how they hear it. But I think the closing arguments of Daniel Penny's attorney were really effective when it said, who would you want to be sitting next to on a train? The man with earbuds minding his own business, but will take action when you need him to? Or would you rather be all alone on the train when someone is having a psychotic moment?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think this also brings up a much broader issue, which is New York and a lot of these cities built on having these kind of transportation systems for people that are affordable, that are fast and reliable. They have become...
SPEAKER 09 :
areas of of great crime and areas of stress and areas where people are unsafe working in the city too right so now we have mass protection that used to have if you went in rush hour so many people was going to be full if you went home during again when most companies close it was going to be full and so you were really only having to protect yourself late at night on really late at night like on you know on during the week on weekends busy all through the night
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think that this becomes an issue that New York has to really take a look at. Eric Adams, everyone got to look at and go, OK, how can we actually make this safe? They keep coming up with solutions. They don't really get quite get to New York.
SPEAKER 09 :
We've we've been you've been. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm taking the kids on the subway.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's just the truth. I don't.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't. Because it's horror stories. I live in Washington, D.C. I've used their metro my whole life and have been happy to do it when I'm with friends in New York who actually understand how it works. But if you're just trying to go like one or two stops with kids, it's a nice little way because they walk slower.
SPEAKER 08 :
All you need to do is figure out how to make this safe again and make these cities more appealing to come to. This is a good step. You got to get the politics out of law enforcement.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is a good step. yeah no this is a great step because it shows these prosecutors you are wasting taxpayer dollars and your prosecutions are becoming a joke so stop playing politics as the DA and start actually protecting the people of New York because that's also sends a signal to the world that the United States of America is a safe country because there's two places you know that people visit from overseas New York City and what is the other? LA and was it Orlando?
SPEAKER 08 :
Orlando, Florida, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Nashville.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Nashville, we're kind of big. Neither of us have, Orlando and Nashville don't have the mass transit situation like that, except for like provided by the theme parks to get you there. Phone lines are open, by the way, and we are going to be taking calls in the next half hour. We do have a second half hour coming up. If you don't get us on your local radio station, I know our last caller was listening on the radio. Some of them don't pick up the full hour. They should, but they don't. Go to aclj.com. Watch on YouTube or on Rumble. We're broadcasting live on all those options right now. But phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. This is a perfect time to call. Also, we cannot stress enough. 25% of our budget, our annual budget, is raised in the month of December, and we need your help because we are falling behind right now. When you hear about the events happening in the Middle East, when you hear about what's happening in New York, we are making sure we are there taking global legal action, and we're going to defend Israel, and we're going to be there, and we're going to need your support. So we encourage you, go to ACLJ.org right now. If you support this month, that helps set our budget for the entire year. And if you support right now, your gift is doubled through our Faith and Freedom year-end drive. So I encourage you to go to ACLJ.org, tell your friends to. You can scan the QR code on the screen right now. Or again, just go to ACLJ.org. Very easy to do it. There's ways for us to see how people respond. And what's very cool, we have looking at do people respond to an article or an ad. We know when people respond to this broadcast based on the time and how they come in. So be a part of that. Show your support also for this show. That's the way to do it. If you like what you get each and every day on Seculo, support the work of the ACLJ because that is how it is funded. And if you don't, hit the subscribe button. Make sure you're part of it.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's a grassroots action I'd like a few of you to take today. Tulsi Gabbard is beginning her meetings on Capitol Hill on the U.S. Senate. You know we brought her on our team long before she was associated with President Trump or had even made the decision to go that political in this election cycle. She certainly wanted to be speaking out on issues that we care about, religious liberty and the First Amendment. Will, who are the first three senators she's meeting with today?
SPEAKER 07 :
She's meeting with Mike Rounds from South Dakota, Senator Lindsey Graham from South Carolina, and James Lankford from Oklahoma.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, if you are in South Dakota, South Carolina, or Oklahoma, call your senator's office if it's one of those three. Tell them in a nice, positive way. Hey, just a reminder, you might want to let the Senator know, Tulsi has been working with the American Center for Law and Justice and the Seculos for over a year, including on their broadcast two and three times a week. So that kind of message, let them know she's one of us. That would be great to do. Don't do it if you're not from their state yet. We're going to launch something bigger for her. But do that today for those three. I'd love to get your feedback on it tomorrow.
SPEAKER 06 :
keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, so there's a lot to talk about today, and I do want to take your calls. I mean, the Daniel Pinney verdict, I think, folks, it's bigger than just Daniel Pinney. This is, when we talk about de-weaponizing law enforcement, I don't just mean at the federal level. I mean at the state level, too. And we talked about how, in a Supreme Court case, my dad argued for President Trump, and I was the lead chair, but we were having to do it from, literally, we built a Supreme Court over there. And we were arguing that a president should not be subject to the political whims of over 2,500, nearly 3,000 local DAs that are partisan elected. And of course that shouldn't happen to the president, but it also, our DAs, whether they were elected because they're Republican or Democrat, should not have their politics play into the role when you're talking about murder. Right. When you're talking about, is this a good Samaritan or is this a bad guy? And in this case, everyone knew this guy did something heroic. Is it a tragedy that a life was lost? Yes, but the life that was lost was someone who had regularly threatened lives on the subway and was doing so at the time. and he was protecting women children and others who were stuck in a tube with nowhere to go and this crazy person was obviously on drugs which makes them even harder to subdue and when he did subdue them obviously if you see the video because they're on drugs they're pushing back hard and lost their life unfortunately but how many lives were saved
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and Jordan, I think that's what the juries think about because they ride those subways. Another thing to bring up in this whole story is what you've been talking about, the safety of our major cities when the district attorneys have been politicized and making it about leftist politics instead of keeping their cities safe. I mean, you think back to the assassination of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare that happened in New York recently. right outside of Times Square. And now there is a little bit of breaking news on this. They're saying that a person has been detained about 100 miles east of Pittsburgh at a McDonald's. The individual had what appears to be a similar weapon that was used in his bag, as well as a fake ID, according to police. But that story's captivated American conscience for days now. And if this is a local police that found this individual at a McDonald's 100 miles east of Pittsburgh, he evaded the entire security apparatus of New York for days and was able to get out of there. It goes back to the fundamental questions of New York should be a place where people are relatively safe. And when that can happen right outside of Times Square, when the Rockefeller Center tree lighting was happening that evening and can evade police and get out of the city, as well as these situations on the subways, it makes people question the leadership and the priorities of those in law enforcement in cities like New York. And hopefully we are going to see, you've already heard Mayor Adams start to change his tune. Now that President Trump has been elected, talking about the safety of the citizens when it comes to the migrant crisis in New York. But hopefully you'll see other law enforcement district attorneys, mayors in these large cities in America start to change their tune and say, wait, our job is to keep our city safe, not to push progressive ideology forward. woke agendas. It's to keep our citizens safe, to make sure the infrastructure holds. And we've been seeing that fall to the wayside in far too many American cities over the past decades.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. I mean, and Logan, we all want the ability To show New York off as like, we've got Washington and New York on the East Coast and Philadelphia as well for our history. You want people to feel like if they're going to come to the U.S. and make that trip to learn about our country, it's really hard to understand the United States. You can't just go to New York. But you start there, and then you understand how the U.S. spread across the country. Of course, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's this unbelievable melting pot of people. Right, absolutely. It's where it all started, really, if you want to look at it. And it still feels that way. Yeah, absolutely. It's got that melting pot feel still. But the problem is you have a lot of people who have not felt safe going, or they know certain areas you can't go to anymore. And a lot of these were big, popular tourist destination areas. I'm not talking about out in the bad areas. We're talking about in Maine, tourist spots.
SPEAKER 09 :
Walked down that street last week. I mean, you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. All right. Hey, we still got more coming up. Phone lines are open 1-800-684-3110. Quickly during this break, support the work of the ACLJ. Just go ahead and do it. Scan that QR code. Go to ACLJ.org.
SPEAKER 09 :
Of course, we've discussed the news with the former acting director of national intelligence and ambassador to Germany, Rick Grinnell, who is on our team at the ACLJ because of your financial support. So we get that awesome insight, by the way, was able to get that awesome insight last week over the weekend so that we were as prepared as possible to understand the. as we call it, multi-angle, multi-dimensional chess games that are going on. And of course, more than games, you've got Russia involved. You've got Iran involved. How does it play out for Israel is a question because right now, a lot of these insurgents are saying, listen, I remember one of their first orders was, do not go in with guns to government buildings. Keep the government buildings. We're negotiating with the current prime minister, and he is working on a transition so that the apparatuses in Syria... continue to work so that you know food water sanitation even though it's been a war-torn country that the basics at least get provided so they've they they have pledged to do that so they aren't like taking all of the Assad people out at least we haven't seen that yet and just like killing them in the streets they also haven't been just overrunning these different offices that run the country so that's that's a good sign that can also just be the first step to get inside and then once you're inside you end up are they going to be more like a turkey or are they going to be more like a isis and uh With a Taliban kind of ish flow. What is going to happen exactly? Prisons have been released. So we're going to stay on those issues. They are very important to us at the ACLJ. Christians were protected, interestingly enough, under the Assad regime. Will they still have that protection or do we need to work on... getting those Christians out of Syria these are questions we have to start answering very soon as we get more information or are these Islamic groups going to say listen we have a diverse country we're not trying to focus on just turning everyone into an Islamist extremist but usually in the past that is what happens unfortunately so watching it very closely tied to that of course is how did this all start Well, Syria started 14 years ago, and this was with ISIS, and then the U.S. destroyed ISIS, so we have a limited team there. Hezbollah used to really be the protector of Assad, but they've been decimated because they decided to try and get into a war with Israel. Didn't go well for them, so they've been begging for those ceasefires. But it really started October 7th. And whenever Hamas started planning that attack on Israel, and I'm bringing in CeCe Howe because CeCe, people remember very early on by the next month, we were representing families in Washington, D.C., taking them to Republican and Democrat leadership to keep that pressure on getting both Americans who were kidnapped home, but also the Israelis out so that there could be a path forward. to a ceasefire that ultimately may lead to the end of this conflict I want you to update people because we've added more clients yeah about where it stands right now of the of those who were kidnapped the good things and the bad right so once again we are seeing that Hamas is possibly looking at a hostage prisoner swap and like you said Jordan it's because of what's going on in Syria
SPEAKER 02 :
what is happening across the world. And of course, that President Trump is now coming into office in January and has made a very harsh statement that the hostages must be released. So we are once again seeing this prisoner hostage swap on the table. And it would include, according to what we know, one of our contacts in Israel was saying the terms are being guarded very So we don't know all the terms, but we think it'll be a humanitarian swap. So that includes like the elderly children, women, ill, badly wounded. And we had filed, like you said, in November after the October 7th massacre and the hostages being taken by Hamas, Israeli hostages, we filed with the working group on enforced or involuntary disappearances and their mandate at the U.N., is to assist families in determining the fate and whereabouts of their disappeared relatives. So we filed on behalf of 10 total clients, and of those 10, four were released. We had a mother and her three minor children released two unfortunately and tragically heartbreakingly have been confirmed dead and we have four of our clients that still remain hopefully alive basically their well-being is unknown but two of those clients are women so if this is truly a humanitarian release we would hope that two more of our clients we would see in this What should happen is every single remaining alive hostage should be released in this swap. And that's what obviously we will keep pushing for. But we are hopeful that we might see two of our clients, remaining clients released.
SPEAKER 09 :
updates on those you know we've seen Hamas try to do some proof of life videos and some we've also heard that the Hamas leadership that's still left in Gaza is frantically on the phones trying to figure out where these remaining hostages are more than just the ones we represent but for the ones we represent have we received any kind of proof of life um
SPEAKER 02 :
We have not. And I actually after November, when we filed in November of last year, I actually met with a working group on enforcing involuntary disappearances in Geneva in March just to reiterate our clients positions and to to really make our communication the most effective that we could do with all the mandates. One of our clients, actually, there was a proof of life, I believe, video that in the middle of last year kind of was released, or this year, I'm sorry, of 2024. Of course, we don't know what her status is now, but when the video was released, there was hope that she was still alive.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, I think, again, really pray for these hostages, for our legal team that's been working on this. This is tough work. I mean, I still almost every day, it's a mistake if I don't, at every event, I'm going to wear this yellow ribbon to remind all of you and to remind anybody walking by that maybe sometimes ask, what's this about? We've still got 100 hostages. We don't know their whereabouts. And some of those are American citizens. And Donald Trump is calling for them to be released. We have good reports that Hamas is trying to find all these individuals, the bodies and those who are still alive. And I'm sure it will be a mix. But... See, they can't really get to a ceasefire until the bodies and those alive are back home. And that at least we know that the hundred or so they've been accounted for now. There's not going to be a ceasefire until that happens.
SPEAKER 02 :
i believe netanyahu absolutely has understood that and has you know commented to that effect that you have to get the hostages back dead or alive and like president trump said you know sadly he believes probably more of them are dead than alive but whatever the number is those hostages need to be returned and like you said seven of them were u.s citizens And three of those have already been confirmed dead. So there's four possibly still alive. They have to be returned.
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And Jordan, I want to play this for you real quick, because this is the outgoing national security advisor, Jake Sullivan. They're already trying revisionist history about the foreign policy of the Biden administration, which has been catastrophic around the world is probably a polite way to say how bad it's been. But This is his revisionist history on the way out, how they're spinning. It was actually the Biden administration that created a wonderful moment in the world. Let's go ahead and play bite one.
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What is amazing about the moment we find ourselves in right now, though, is that Iran, Hezbollah and Russia are all in a position of relative weakness in the Middle East. And our core security partner in the region, Israel, is in a position of relative strength in the region. And we believe that the United States has taken steps over the course of the past year through military deployments, through diplomacy, and through engagement with all of our partners that have helped to bring about this set of conditions.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, here's the thing. The only reason this happened is because Israel decided to go on an offensive that they in the past did not want to do. which was to go directly target Iran and Iran's proxy forces not just the ones right on the border in northern Lebanon and northern Israel and southern Lebanon but they went after the leader of Hezbollah who's been living underground and I guess that whole idea that he would never be found and Israel was obviously tracking him and knew exactly where he was the entire time but also knew the concerns of what happens if you do kill him but they had other things planned they never took it they didn't say they were behind the pager attacks they didn't say that they were 100% behind what happened in Tehran with the leader of Hamas when he left Qatar for the first time and now we've seen Qatar remove the rest of Hamas leadership I don't know where they went I don't think they're back in the Gaza Strip but the idea that the world already started shifting that way and President Trump hasn't even taken office now Does this add another complication? Has the Obama administration and Biden administration put another disaster on President Trump's desk? Yes. I think that's their goal. And I don't really think it's about Joe Biden. It's these Jake Sullivan types. Joe Biden is on his way out. He's smiling. He's happy. These are people who are trying to make it more difficult for President Trump to make good on the promises like ending the war in Ukraine and and bringing more peace and stability to the middle east but they don't know who they're dealing with when they're dealing with donald trump and his allies like we are at the aclj so support our work because we also do it internationally aclj.org double the impact today donate today aclj.org it is so important it's critical you donate today thank you All right, welcome back to Secular. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. Still a lot to talk about, again, because going back, I think, to just a bit of Israel, too, Will. we know that there is an opportunity to end this conflict and while we've got our clients the bigger issue I think for Israel and of course we have an office there ACLJ Jerusalem I know Jeff Balaban is actually was home briefly here in the US he's on the way back as we speak right now and I'm going to be reconnecting with him tomorrow on these kind of movements Syria and how that's affecting the Gaza Strip and how many people can really get is Israel really expecting can be found whether it's bodies and hopefully many who are still living because then if Israel can check that box they can then refocus on Hezbollah, which continues to be decimated, and really watching what's going on in Syria. As President Trump said, this is not our battle, but we do have 900 troops there. So at a point, we have to decide if our troops are going to be safe. Right now, I think that group has said, we're not really interested in that. But those groups usually end up Once they've cleared out the regime, they focus on other international actors. They're going to play nice with Russia. So what does that mean for the United States? And 900 is not 10. Right.
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And Jordan, one thing I also want to bring up, and this goes kind of back to that Jake Sullivan bite that we played in the previous segment, that's revisionist history trying to say that We supported Israel to create this moment in the Middle East where Iran is kind of on the ropes in many areas. But I want to point to this New York Times article from over Thanksgiving week that with Trump returning and Hezbollah weekend, Iran strikes a conciliatory tone. And what it points out is that remember all the ballistic missiles that Iran shot in retaliation to taking out Hezbollah and Hamas leaders. And then Israel did a retaliatory strikes. They point out that Iran was ready at the beginning of November to launch another counter strike on Israel so that there would be this back and forth shooting match between Israel and Iran. But they changed their mind. They had a plan ready to go. And the deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps warned that we have never left an aggression unanswered in 40 years. They did for the first time. And what changed? The November 5th American election where President Trump was reelected, and all of a sudden, the IRGC and the mullahs in Iran decided not to continue that back and forth with Israel- I think that speaks volumes to what happened under the Biden foreign policy and just the reelection of President Trump. They were scared of another maximum pressure campaign from President Trump and that if they continue to escalate their shooting match with Israel, it wasn't going to end well for the Iranians. is the real strength, not the Biden foreign policy that Jake Sullivan is trying to recast as some great, wonderful thing that they've been able to bring peace to the Middle East. We all know that the world was set on fire under the Biden administration and under their foreign policy. Don't let those talking points on national security advisors that are being dismissed from their jobs as their administration leaves out of office. That's not the reality of what we see.
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You know, I think the reality is we are in a very, as we said, always a dangerous time in these transitions because the work for the new president keeps piling up. The domestic work we know that's there, the inflation. Now, the economy already starts moving in a positive direction because they are predicting the policies that will get through a Republican House and Senate that will be helpful to the companies on the stock market. And so you see that even cryptocurrency going up bigger than ever before when it was almost dying. I mean, there were countries trying to go to that system that were being made fun of. And now if they held on, maybe not.
SPEAKER 08 :
It seems like it was very over. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then it started building back slowly over the last year. And that's because there's a lot of financial advisors on the right who think this kind of idea of currency is not a bad idea if it can be regulated enough to where it's still... Not the same as our regular currency. It still has that flexibility, but isn't as dangerous for people to invest in as it is right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Let's go ahead and take a phone call. We've got a phone call coming. Stephen is calling on line one. Stephen, thanks for holding. You've been on hold for a while.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Thank you. Go ahead. I'm just glad that this verdict with this young guy was... It was determined that he was not guilty.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think a lot of people feel that way. A lot of people feel like there was actually a, you know, justice was served in a strange way because New York, you never knew in New York. There was a lot of feelings that they were not going to be able to acquit him of everything purely for, I mean, somewhat of political pressure, if you want to say that, or cultural pressure.
SPEAKER 09 :
yes then he wouldn't have been able to be acquitted but they actually did their job as the jury i think when you have to look at someone like that it's not donald trump it's not that kind of like show trial because this is someone going to jail for violence and murder long-term prison sentences so um and i think they were even gonna have problems with trump honestly but This just shows you that rational people from whatever background they come from who live in New York understand what it's like in New York right now, especially if you find yourself kind of alone on the subway or with a handful of people. There are a lot more troubled folks out on the streets right now in New York than there were. Obviously, COVID was so quiet, and there's still kind of that COVID quietness. The office buildings like in D.C. that are only 17% full, I feel is not that much different in New York either for a lot of those buildings. You might see some people coming in and out as you walk by, but you certainly aren't seeing the same kind of rush hour movement. The traffic patterns have changed, which means the subway patterns have changed. And strength in numbers was kind of the subway ideas. We're going to be so packed in that if there's a nut, the nut is going to be able to do very little damage because they can barely even move.
SPEAKER 08 :
Everyone around them, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now that's not the case. They can target trains and say, you know what, I'm going to get on that train. There's only about six people. And that guy just chose the wrong train to start threatening to kill people that day. And honestly, New York should be praising Daniel Penny. He should be like, a Daniel Penny day. That they need more Daniel Pennies to speak up and to work and to not be afraid to take that action. You know, the law is careful there on Good Samaritan work. you have to make sure that if you were going to engage, that you will take the consequences of engagement. That means what could happen to you and also your training is taken into account. But here, again, this person was threatening to kill people. He wasn't just acting crazy. He was threatening to kill people. So... Why aren't we saying this is – we had the Guardian Angels. We've had other groups in New York. What happened now? And it worked. New York, it took about 10, 15 years. And if you did more work quickly with funding, you could do it quicker than that. And New York could be back to that place where people don't think twice about going.
SPEAKER 08 :
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In this compelling episode, professional money manager Bill Gunderson provides a thorough analysis of the stock market as we edge closer to the year's end. With the recent fluctuations in AI stocks and the pressures on healthcare companies like United Healthcare, the conversation emphasizes the importance of strategic positioning. This episode takes you through major earnings reports, the latest market developments, and the fundamental shifts within the technology economy. As undervalued stocks react to geopolitical tensions, Gunderson offers practical advice for both short-term and long-term investment strategies, ensuring you remain well-informed for your next financial moves.
SPEAKER 01 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager, Bill Gunderson.
SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome to the Monday. It is the Monday, December the 9th edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And the markets have opened mostly to the downside right now with some weakness in AI stocks, NVIDIA. In particular, you've got China going after NVIDIA as a monopoly, which is kind of strange because China doesn't even have access to NVIDIA's product.
SPEAKER 03 :
China is a monopoly, isn't it? Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
So anyways, that is hitting the AI stocks a little bit here. But at the same time, let's see, the Dow was up. Let me see if I can find that Dow. Again, the Dow is up, let's see. I lost my page here, Barry, so tap dance for a minute.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, we got Dow up 14 points, basically flat up 0.03%. Got the S&P in red just a bit, down seven points. So virtually nothing in nowadays terms, given that it's at 6,083. And we got the NASDAQ up. Just two points. So essentially a flat day, it looks like, out there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, pretty flat. Small caps are up three-quarters of a percent, so we got that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Got some movement there. And crude oil is up 2% here to 68, 61 a barrel, likely because of some of the Mideast news that I'm sure you'll get to in a bit. And gold up a percent and a half, maybe on the similar news. And then Bitcoin down 1%. 186 points to 99,783.
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Yeah, so welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with Bill Gunderson, President of Gunderson Capital Management, and Barry Kite, Chartered Financial Analyst, as we close in on the end of the year. 16 days until Christmas. 16 days, and we've got, what, 22 days left in the market year. And we're going to have the biggest losers in the S&P 500, the top 10 losers. Hopefully you didn't have any of those. We did talk about the top 10 winners in the S&P 500 from this past year. We were lucky enough to have several of those. And a lot of other things going on in the market today, NVIDIA being one of them. We've got more earnings coming this week, believe it or not, and that will be done for the year. And so we've got another active week in the market this week, as usual. Okay, so where did we end up on Friday? It was not bad. I mean, we had new highs in the NASDAQ. We had a new high in the S&P 500. But the Dow, on the other hand, hit 45,000. It bumped its head up on that 45,000 level. It may have a little bit of a pause here. As it struggles with that. But the Dow did hit a new high at one point last week. You've got the Dow trading at 20.6 times forward earnings. The S&P is 22.5. I put a chart up of the PE ratio over the last about 20 years of the S&P 500. And the NASDAQ hit a forward PE ratio of 35.5. last week so it suffice it to say that we have a very lofty We have very lofty valuations. In fact, I put up charts of price to book, price to cash flow, price to sales, and price to earnings on both the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ in the newsletter over the weekend. And I'm hearing the word froth more and more recently. Well, yeah, you know, those historical, they have not always been kept historically. For instance, I wanted to see what the NASDAQ was trading at back in the year 2000 before it crashed by 79%. We don't have a record from back then. The records on the forward PE and earnings of the NASDAQ, I think they began in 2008 to keep record.
SPEAKER 03 :
It might not even have been any positive earnings in the NASDAQ in 2000.
SPEAKER 04 :
A lot of companies did not have earnings, but at that point in time, they were not keeping an earnings per share. I looked at the formula to come up with the earnings per share for the NASDAQ. It's pretty convoluted. It would take some work. I'm sure they've got some kind of nice program written to calculate that each week. but as you look at the past history of the NASDAQ at least since 2008 you can see we're bumping up against The high, we're at the upper end of that channel. And the word froth, I mean, has to be mentioned in the same sentence with current valuations on all three of the indexes. Okay, the fall of Assad, we really don't know what that's going to lead to. It could be worse, to be honest with you. I mean, at least under Assad, he kind of kept, I mean, he was a brutal dictator. Not a lot of good coming from that. But ISIS could get a bigger role in the government. Al-Qaeda could get a bigger role in the government. We really don't know. We do know that Assad is now going to live out his life in Russia. He is under asylum.
SPEAKER 03 :
The enemy you know is better than the enemy you don't, I guess, right? Yes. Who knows how this power vacuum will... Will take place, where do you think, I wonder where, where does Assad hang out in Russia after his years? I mean, is he on the coast somewhere?
SPEAKER 04 :
There could be some assassins over there to get him, so he's got to lay kind of low. And, you know, Syria has always been a very widely varied country. You know, you've got a Muslim population, which is big. You've got a Christian population. You have the Kurds. You've got Al-Qaeda. You've got ISIS. You've got Damascus.
SPEAKER 03 :
You've got U.S. troops there. You've got Russian bases there. I mean, it's a smorgasbord.
SPEAKER 04 :
So we'll see. Okay, Trump over the weekend said he would consider a NATO exit if members don't pay their bills. Okay, pay up or we're leaving. He did this last time. Stock indexes. We're looking ahead. We've got some inflation reports coming this week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, this week. And then we'll get the Fed decision the following week, I believe.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. CPI comes in on Wednesday and PPI comes in on Thursday. We don't want to see inflation heating up again. I haven't seen any signs of it. Mostly you would come from the energy markets side. if oil were all of a sudden to go up to $75, $80 per barrel, but that's not happening. Trump says he won't try to remove Fed Chairman Jerome Powell. Okay, so it looks like the team is in place to run the economy going forward, including the Fed chair. And you've got a regime that is very pro-Bitcoin, and I wrote about that in my newsletter over the weekend. The biggest movers today in the market from an individual point of view, per microcomputer, that's the volatile, that's the VIX stock of the year. Without question, the wild swings in that thing. It's up 3.6%. The NASDAQ is granted it more time to comply with listing rules. And then you had another, you had a biotech, BIOA, which was trying to come up with their own weight loss drug to compete with Eli Lilly's drug and Novo Nordisk. No, it failed. And the stock is down 70% today, plunging. That's that biotech world. That's the biotech world for you. If you just buy one biotech, there's a lot of risk. I mean, the odds are firmly against you, but there's been a lot of biotech winners this year, and owning a biotech ETF would be a better way to go. And on that same note, Lilly is Morgan Stanley's top biopharma pick for 2025. I would totally agree with that. It's our top pick also. Although we called it our top pick quite a while ago. And Lilly seems to be busting these compounders. Lilly had a seat, the CEO, at the table with Trump, RFK, and the CEO of Pfizer last week. We'll see if that helps. And in the meantime, Lilly has recently had very good news on how much more effective their drug is, Zepbound, And then the competition's drug, Novo Nordisk. And eventually that pricing is going to settle out. And we're seeing more coverage from insurers, which we'll talk about when we come back. Because a big insurer is still in the news, obviously, with the assassination of one of their CEOs. And I've got a little bit of color to add to that. I talked to somebody that's been in the health care industry all his life. And I also talked to some doctors and dentists that have issues with UnitedHealthcare. They're notorious for denying claims. So that probably was at the center of that assassination last week. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, let's check in on Dow Stock United Healthcare, which obviously has been in the news here recently, as have many of the healthcare stocks. Man, it's really, it was trading at 620 before this all happened. Now it's at 547. That's three days worth of activity today. where the stock is sold off wildly. Now, I talked to one friend who's been an executive, a high-up executive in the health care industry his entire career. He says UnitedHealthcare is notorious, notorious for denying claims, delaying claims, all kinds of things. He says they use artificial intelligence to come up with ways to deny, deny, deny claims. So that was out of the mouth of one person. I talked to another person who is a dentist.
SPEAKER 03 :
And time is money in that business. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
And my dentist friend says of all the health care insurers they work with, United is by far the worst. He says especially this time of year, around December, November, they say, no, we're not paying. We're not paying. Maybe next year.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I don't know. Push it into the next year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Earnings estimates or what. That's what I was thinking. But he said he went eight months without getting paid for some procedures that he did from UnitedHealthcare. So I guess they're very hawkish. uh on uh you know claims uh and united health care i mean it's a pretty thin margin business to be honest with you i mean if you look at the income statement But they have managed to grow their earnings every single year over the last 10 years, really, if you look at their earnings record. So they have to be pretty aggressive on their end to do that. And that seems to be the most popular theory. It seems to make sense, you know, with what he wrote on the bullets. Of course, he's still on the loose, which is pretty incredible. Maybe it's Tom Cruise, right? Didn't Tom Cruise, he was the Mission Impossible. It seems like what this guy has pulled off there, he kind of looks like a young Tom Cruise also. But anyways, you know, the health insurers are not, it's not a healthy, it's not a healthy industry. and uh... i don't know what's coming uh... there are the calls for single-payer uh... which would deny a lot less claims but you would have a lot less procedures done so there's all of that at work right now i would not own a health insurance stock myself earnings coming up this week today is oracle oracle can put up some big earnings from time to time oracle has entered into that uh... ai universe also Toll Brothers is going to report tomorrow GameStop. I know that's your favorite one, Barry, of all the earnings reports. When's the last time they had earnings is the question.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was going to tell you. I mean, we're on the second weekend of Christmas shopping, and I haven't been into a GameStop yet. No.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, Roaring Kitty is not.
SPEAKER 03 :
You may have a couple of games under the tree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Roaring Kitty is not sent out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but we ordered them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we never know. Yeah, okay. All right. Adobe's going to report on Wednesday. Adobe is a powerhouse of the software stocks. Macy's. I see there's some activist investors involved. Macy's needs to become the dominant player in higher-end clothing on the Internet. I mean, that's got to be their way to go, but I haven't really seen them become that yet. Costco's going to report on Thursday, Broadcom. An important software stock we'll also report on later this week. Okay, then we've got NVIDIA, which China, I'm sure this is payback. Look, I mean, they're being denied NVIDIA's chips. So I don't know how they open up a probe into NVIDIA on anti-monopoly concerns.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we sell them those dumbed-down chips, I think. They probably don't market them as that. I guess.
SPEAKER 04 :
And NVIDIA is down 2.1%. It's dragging us down a little bit because along with NVIDIA, you know, let's see, the other ones that are down, usually everything in that universe, NVIDIA, Vistra, which is the utility providing the juice, Constellation Energy is down 3.3%. Vistra is down 3.2%. Arista Networks is down 1.7%. They're all pretty much tied to NVIDIA. And so that whole sector is off today on that news. AMD falls as B of A downgrades. Amid AI, you know, I have not seen any good action in AMD in a long time. We do not own AMD. It's a lousy chart. It's getting worse. It's down 3.5%. There doesn't seem to be hardly any demand or very little demand for their AI chip. The one that seems to have the demand is the Amazon chip. Amazon has been hitting new highs, and I think it is again today. It's breaking out to new all-time highs. And AMD just has a very, very weak chart. I just would not own AMD at this time. I've made the right call. We sold it quite some time ago. And even though you could make an argument from a valuation point of view, growth at a reasonable price, GARP, known as GARP, There's no momentum in the stock. In fact, there's a lack. There's negative momentum and sentiment on the stock right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
At least for the Amazon chip, they can create demand by buying the chip from themselves.
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I guess so. Yeah, okay. So they're doing very good. Okay, a couple of additions. Oh, no, wait. Palantir has been the stock of the month, really, December. Oh, my gosh. You know, I decided several weeks ago, I said, I bought it in the ultra-growth portfolio because it was just starting to rumble. And I said, you know, I looked at the market cap. It's over $100 billion right now. It's incredible. It's probably the strongest stock in the entire market right now. I said, I'm going to add this to the premier growth portfolio because it's large enough to fit in that portfolio. It was a large cap growth stock. It's $174 billion right now. And you know, the thing just took off. And I said, well, maybe tomorrow it'll pull back. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe the next day. Maybe next week. Maybe by Tuesday. No, it never pulled back. And it's just kept running, running, running. It's got good news again today. You know, they're very connected to the government. Especially, think about this. I mean, they're going to use them for U.S. Special Operations Commands. So imagine how, you know, the clearance that Palantir has to do that kind of work. And, of course, the CEO is becoming a little bit of a celebrity himself. He kind of looks like the mad scientist. I can't think of his name right now. But Palantir, man, that thing continues to rock and roll. When we come back, we've got some AI news update from Microsoft. And then we're going to talk about some stocks going into the S&P 500. We own one of them. And then how about the 10 worst performers in the S&P? That's always fun to look at. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. We continue to have the AI stocks under heavy pressure right now in the market. I'm looking at Vistra's down 7% right now. That's one of the nuclear energy stocks for powering these. In fact, the NASDAQ's going south here. You've got NVIDIA's down 2.8%. Netflix is down 2.6%. Arista's down 1.7%. Palo Alto Network's down 2.8%. Are interest rates going up? Somebody just downgraded the tech sector, it looks like. Meta's down 1.4. Constellation Energy's down 4.8. The Trade Desk is down 3.8. A rough day right now.
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Ten years only up two basis points, so not much of an interest rate move.
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No, somewhere out there has probably downgraded anything and everything. I can't believe this is all just coming from China. But it is a pretty rough day there for the leadership stocks. Part of the problem is valuations here, okay? The valuations are very, very rich, especially in the NASDAQ. Across the board, really, the cheapest index of all is the Russell 2000, the small cap stock. But they don't have the kind of growth that the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 have. So anyways, it's a pretty rough day right now in the market. It looks a lot worse underneath the surface. It's one of those kind of days than the indexes would suggest. The other one, Microsoft has been pretty, it's been a good chart recently. It's still a major player in that AI. And Microsoft, you know, a lot of these large cap tech stocks, they'll get soft for a while and a little squishy. But as long as that growth is still there and as long as they're still in the middle of things like Microsoft, Microsoft was pretty soft for quite a while. It got down to 400. That was support, obviously. A lot of times a round number like that will become a support level. Microsoft tested that 400 support level a couple of times, and now it's in a pretty strong uptrend. It's at 445 today and breaking through resistance on the upside, so that's about a 12%, 13% move in Microsoft in just the last couple of weeks here. So a lot of times, you know, there's another lesson. You have to be patient in the market. You're going to go through some rough patches. You're going to have some rough days. You're going to say, should I stay with this stock? I make notes on my charts. And when I know I have something that's really, really solid from a fundamental, I'll remind myself and put a note right on the chart, Barry, be patient, which we all have a hard time.
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It's part of that trading diary where I've seen some folks, especially on the technical analyst side, to always keep a – call it a trade diary or whatever, right? But, yeah, you're making those notes and you want to pound historically because we all make –
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mistakes over the years you're not patient and it's uh then you see one and it's uh you want to make that note kind of like that post-it that's just in front of you kind of touch it on the way by right play like a champion today yeah and there's then there's the one that you're glad you sold I mean it broke support which Microsoft never broke has not broke support but believe me there were a few times when I said to myself maybe they're entering into Johnson and Johnson territory right with slink single digit growth and uh but it never did it didn't break support but i was trying to think of the one i did sell it broke support and it's done nothing but go down ever since then and you say to yourself thank goodness that i sold this thing when it broke support we had a good gain in it i mentioned it in the news there okay couple joining the s&p 500 apollo Which we're happy. We own Apollo. It's not a space stock. It's like a private equity. It's like the other private equity stocks out there, BlackRock. Blackstone, there's a lot of them. KKR.
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And with more private equity deals, with the new administration, you expect there to be more, you know, kind of investment banking activity. And those are, you know, Apollo is a stock that will benefit from it. The rest of them, those other ones you mentioned, as well as, you know, if you're looking at even the big bank side, one that's probably positioned the most for that space is going to be Goldman Sachs. Right. Just because it's... It's in that deal-making space, but it's certainly driven by the new administration and a little less red tape and regulation, and it's going to bring more companies to market likely.
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Now, here's the ones you did not want to own this year. Walgreens down 67%. That's Walgreens. I mean, you go down the street, how many Walgreens do you see? Kicked out of the Dow. Intel down 58% kicked out of the Dow. And by the way, the former Intel CEO, who is a devout Christian, Pat Gelsinger, is asking people, he did this on Sunday, to pray and fast for the chip makers, 100,000 employees, as investors wonder about the future of the semiconductor. He said, this week, I'd invite you to join me in praying and fasting for I thought at first it was praying for a faster chip, but no, fasting, going without food for 24 hours for the 100,000 Intel employees as they navigate this difficult period. I've never seen that before, a CEO do that. But they must be in deeper water than we think. Moderna was down 56%. I think RFK's got daggers for Moderna. And, of course, there's no COVID comeback, so what are you going to do with a COVID vaccine? Dollar Tree down 48% this year. A solar stock, Enphase, down 46%. I'm sure there's some guy out there going, man, I own all of these stocks. I'm going to find a new money manager. A new hobby. Enphase, solar energy down 46%. Estee Lauder has just been pounded down 45%. APA, which is natural gas, down 40%. Boeing, down 39.6%. And Dollar General, that's the other dollar stock in the top 10 losers here. down 38 percent so those are the stocks you did not want to own check your portfolio see what your money manager had you in and see if you had any of those top 10 okay the other one here this is a weird one but there's weird ones that come along i added these two to the app this morning there's a play going on right now in antimony Not alimony, antimony. It's on the chart, periodical chart, right? At one time, I knew them all, way back, way back when, in the early days of college in chemistry.
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And that's what China cut us off from, correct?
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Yes, China cut us off from antimony, which is needed for these EV batteries. So now you've got a couple of companies, United States, Antimony, UAM8. This thing was up 60% on Friday and up another 16 today. They're teaming up with Perpetua Resources, PPTA, and UAMY. These two stocks announcing a formal metallurgical testing agreement to evaluate stibnite-rich material from Perpetua's Stibnite Gold Project in Idaho. Okay, you never know where a story is going to come from in the market. And, you know, we also have coming out of Idaho that nuclear, you know, the nuclear play, NNM, on building portable, portable nuclear reactors. So anyways, those are a couple. I sent out a tweet on that this morning. Not a tweet, an email on that. And I added those two stocks. We'll see how they add up. And then there's a third one. Military Metals is acquiring the Last Chance Antimony Gold property located in Nye County, Nevada. So all of a sudden, I'll tell you one other one. Vanadium, okay? Vanadium is put into these domes of nuclear reactors and any kind of covering and casing around a nuclear reactor. And I actually own a little vanadium stock that's been kind of going crazy. It's settled down a little bit in the incubator account, which is where it belongs, okay? And I do publish that incubator account to all of our subscribers. Try to do it every other day or a few days to let them know what's in there. And then, of course, when I buy or sell them. Okay, NEO aims high for United Arab Emirates. So this is the second United Arab Emirates story of the day. The other one I skipped over, but Microsoft has been approved for to sell high-speed, I'm guessing, AI and NVIDIA chips in their system to the United Arab Emirates. And now the Chinese carmaker, NIO, is trying to sell EVs into the United Arab Emirates. I don't know if Tesla has a foothold there or not, but that's kind of becoming an important market here. Okay, we'll be back for the final segment. We're going to look a little underneath the surface.
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You've got to go where you want to go, do what you want to do with it.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. The Dow is now slightly down. The Nasdaq's doing much worse, however. We'll get to that in a bit. The Dow's down 20 points right now, and it's starting to slip. It's starting to... to sell off travelers leading the way down 3.1 percent the insurance stocks have been under a little bit of pressure they're very interest rate sensitive and when you get a drop in interest rates we were at over 4.5 not that long ago now we're at 4.15 4.18 That's taken a little bit of a toll on the insurance stocks, but for the most part, they remain one of the best sectors in the market in 2024. NVIDIA is now down 2.9%. The selling there has increased a little bit as China is going to open up an antitrust case against them, claiming they're a monopoly. Raytheon's down 2.7%. Well, you know, we've seen the military and defense stocks sell off, obviously. You've got a new administration coming in that's not quite as, oh, I don't know, not quite as hawkish out there. I know Trump said over the weekend, Syria, I don't want to get involved. The U.S. should not get involved. So that's not good for the defense stocks. Lockheed has had a big sell-off. Raytheon's down 2.7%. Salesforce is down 2.2% today. The only winners in the Dow, Boeing's up 3.5%. They must have some good news, maybe some contracts there. DuPont is up 2.7%. The oil stocks are doing okay. Chevron's up 2.4%. Now, as we look at the S&P 500, which I've got to change here, you've got a couple new ones coming in and a couple being kicked out. The biggest winner in the S&P 500 is Hershey's. Well, I don't know what the news is, but there's some news there.
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I wonder if cocoa prices went down.
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We're a chocolate milk family, the grandkids. We use our fair amount of Hershey and ice cream sundaes and that kind of thing. Whirlpool, this is the kind of day, I mean, weird stocks are up, good stocks are down. Newell Brands up 10.1. Interpublic, which is a big advertising agency, they're getting bought out by their competitor Omnicom. Enphase, the solar stocks up 7.4. Advanced Auto Parts. So a very weird day. You're probably not up today unless you've been down most days this year. Those stocks are finally rallying here today.
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Yeah, all places you likely are not.
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Yes, and the leadership of the market is selling off today. The cruise ship stocks, which have been hitting new highs here recently, Norwegian and Royal, are each down about 4.5%, 5%. You've got Carnival down 4%. Then you start digging into some of the tech stocks. AMD is breaking down. That is not a good chart at all on AMD. It's breaking support. It's got a ways down to its next level of support. It's down 3.8%. NVIDIA, I just mentioned, it's now down 3.1%, so it's added on another 1% to its downturn. Netflix, there must be a valuation call out there on the NASDAQ, which I've kind of been making here myself, but nobody listens to me. I don't move the markets like a Goldman Sachs or somebody when they say, hey, this market's getting expensive, especially the tech stocks. You know, you see an immediate sell-off. Arista Networks is down 2.6. A lot of this centered around the insurance stocks and the defense stocks. And even Palantir has now gone negative, which surprises me. It hasn't had a negative day in quite a while. Maybe I will get a shot at putting it into the... Premier growth portfolio. Salesforce is down 2.2. And then you look at the NASDAQ. I think you're going to see the same kind of pattern there where it's AI. The higher, the bigger, the more they're up this year, the more they're down today. So there's some profit taking, we call that. The Chinese stocks are having a good day. No, I don't want to have any Chinese. JD.com is up 14%. NetEase is up 11.7%. Baidu is up 9.7%. The only kind of core tech stock, Workday, is up 5.6% because it's being added to the S&P 500. And then the exciting stock, Kraft Heinz, maker of the slow catch-up, it's up 4.4% today. Now we look at the downside in the NASDAQ. And here come some of your biggest winners this year. Nvidia down 3.1%. Netflix, which has been pounding out new highs, is down 3%. So kind of the magnificent 7%. Meta's down 1.8%. Booking's been a big winner this year, down 1.7%. Tesla... One of the magnificent seven down 1.6. So that's the way the wind's blowing in the market today. Okay, well, you know, we have a lot of the four-week trials that have now come to an end. I'm going to miss you folks. Of course, we've had a lot that are signing up on a daily basis, new people coming in. And, you know, I have to take that into account. So when I go through all my stocks every day, the ones we hold, the ones I'm looking at, I reiterate. If there's one I already own, I say, hey, I still like this stock at this level. So I just assume that people are coming in with a clean slate, all cash. And I'm, you know, saying at this level, I still like this stock. Some are investments to build a portfolio. And some I see as more of a short-term trading opportunity. And I identify them. And I also tell you what portfolio I'm buying each stock. And then in addition to that, on the weekends, you get to see the current status of all the portfolios. I don't have the... the incubator portfolio in the newsletter yet maybe i'll do that on january the first i'd like to start on a nice clean date you know with with performance and that kind of stuff but anyways the offer is still out there for four weeks it's my uh... black friday cyber monday and holiday offering It's a class, a master class on the market. I give examples, and then I do ones that I tell you what I'm doing as a professional money manager. Just following along, you'll learn a lot about the markets. You may even learn that I'd rather buy a mutual fund or hire somebody to do this for me. You go to GundersenCapital.com. to sign up for the four-week trial, and you get access to the powerful app, the Best Stocks Now app and the weekly newsletter. And if you just say, oh, man, that's a lot of work there, you can also talk to us about your portfolio. Make an appointment with us at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Please dab on the line with me, Joshua Lowenstein. He is the founder of Our American Lands. and they hosted their first conference in October in Monta Vista. I had the great honor of emceeing that event. Joshua Lowenstein, welcome. Good morning. Hey, I'm doing well. This Biden administration is trying to do all kinds of things before the inauguration of Donald Trump. And we talked about the potential Dolores monument, but you've uncovered something else that is mind boggling. So tell us about that.
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Well, the you know, there's they're trying to do 30 by 30 on a scale now because they know they're about to be out of office tomorrow. That is going bonkers. And the local eco-activist group here in San Luis Valley has suggested that Colorado should have 14 million more acres of Colorado put into conservation, special protective conservation, more than the conservation there already is. Everything is, all the federal land has federal protections for the land, the water, the animals, all of it. And this particular new designation coming from the Fish and Wildlife Service is proposing to designate nearly, you know, almost 5 million acres of Colorado under the Endangered Species Act to protect the Canadian lynx that got introduced about 20 some years ago into Colorado. And 437,000 acres of that is enveloping private property too. So it's just crazy.
SPEAKER 16 :
So 30 by 30, we talk about it pretty regularly on the show, but explain to our listeners what 30 by 30 is, Josh Lowenstein.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it's part of a plan that started in the 90s with Agenda 21 and then for basically United Nations and the various globalist entities to take over and control 30% of the world's land and water by 2030 and 50% by 2050.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I think there's this impression that public lands, that the public would have access to it for agriculture, grazing, motorized recreation, hunting, fishing, and natural resources, which is what you have here on our American lands. But 30 by 30 wants to return the land to its natural state without, I think, human interaction.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, rewilding.
SPEAKER 16 :
Rewilding. Yeah. And so this is a really big deal. How did you uncover this? Because I think they're trying to be very sneaky about this, Josh Lowenstein.
SPEAKER 09 :
The fellow who just got elected to House District 52, Larry Don Sucla, out there on the West Side, posted this on Facebook, actually. So... If you don't mind, I can read all the counties that are affected by this. Yes, please do. That's Archuleta, Boulder, Chaffee, Clear Creek, Kanaos, Dolores, Eagle, Gilpin, Grand, Gunnison, Hinsdale, La Plata, Lake, Mineral, Montezuma, Ouray, Park, Pitkin, Rio Grande, Soich, San Juan, San Miguel, and Summit Counties. And parts of New Mexico, too, are affected by this giant misuse of the Endangered Species Act. I mean, there's only 150 lynx in Colorado. That kind of gives them about 33,000 acres each.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wow. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. So the end game on this is control, control of the land. And America was founded, one of the foundational principles of America is private property rights. And, of course, globalists, they don't want people to have private property rights. They want us all to be little minions, and they want to be in control of everything. And so what what needs to be done about this, Josh Lowenstein?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, there's a public comment period that ends on January 28th, 2025. So the we need to once again, they make these comment periods so short, you know, that, you know, it's only what, you know, not even two months away for that. for getting all the public comments. And so there is, uh, I will get you more information exactly on how to do the commenting on that. The information I have doesn't show exactly where to make that comment too, but one of the big things that they talk about in their description of how this would affect this, this, uh, 5 million acre area is to limit firewood cutting and or deadfall and dead standing tree harvesting for firewood. And of course, as we know, the gross mismanagement of our national forests in relation to being able to get clear out some of that deadfall is the reason why forest fires get so serious and overtake so much land. And they're talking about forcing that issue to be even more so because they don't want humans out there in this area. I think that ultimately they want us to be the endangered species.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's pretty crazy. And to your point, without forest management, these forest fires get bigger, they get more intense, and it seems to me like it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that that's a real problem, unless ultimately, I'm not sure they even care about the earth. They're just using... all of this to try to gain more and more control. That seems like ultimately what's happening, Joshua. I know that's a strong statement. Do you agree?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. 100%.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Tell people a little bit more about Our American Lands. That website is, I've got it right here, it's ouramericanlands.com. And I know you're gaining more and more momentum, and the conference that you had in October I think was very, very important. But we need to be shedding light on this because, again, I think it's quite sneaky on what they're trying to get through.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you know, it's just crazy. The degree of which they do this stuff is just insane and maniacal. But Our American Lands is a land use advocacy nonprofit organization with the intent that all of these public lands are for multi-use and simple as that. The other part of this is private land. And, of course, this particular designation would, take almost half a million acres, which is the size of the Dolores Monument proposal by itself, but half a million acres in acreage of private property, too. And we advocate for private property rights as well. So it's stuff that just has to be nipped in the bud. We have to get out there. All the various organizations that are pro-land use and pro-freedom need to just raised holy heck about this.
SPEAKER 16 :
So on the private lands, are they going to limit the use of the private lands, or what's the game plan on that?
SPEAKER 09 :
This claims that it won't, but in Montana, for example, where Fish and Wildlife, the same group that's bureaucracy that is doing this, They took over 5.8 million acres in western Montana for various reasons, but the Fish and Wildlife just deemed it without having to do any environmental impact studies or anything like that. And they're using conservation easements, basically forcing people that live in that area out. So if you live in an area that's going to be enveloped by this particular designation – you better be on guard because they're going to be trying to come after your land to boot you out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. So Joshua, Gammy has texted me. She said she wants that information on those counties, and she's going to do a write-up on it. And so if you can get me that, we'll get it into the show summary for today with the link of where to make comments and the counties that are affected, and we'll get that in there. Josh Lowenstein, thank you for keeping me informed and for staying on top of this. And again, I recommend people check out ouramericanlands.com.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you, Kim. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 16 :
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. We are in the second week of Advent, which is hard to believe. And Advent is the four Sundays before Easter. Christmas, and I'm here to help you with your Christmas shopping. And for that veteran that is in your life, why don't you consider buying a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service for the USMC Memorial, which is out here in Golden, Colorado. The foundation is raising money for that remodel. It was dedicated in 1977. And so a great way to help them and to honor your loved one. is to buy a brick. You'll get a beautiful certificate that can be framed and put on the wall. So more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to have on the line with me, Daniel Turner. He is the founder of Power of the Future. Daniel Turner, welcome.
SPEAKER 08 :
Kim, it is great to be on your program. Thanks for having me back.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's always such important conversations. And Daniel, this Biden administration is trying to leave all kinds of problems for the Trump administration. And at Power of the Future, and that website is powerofthefuture.com, you recently published something, the lame duck watch, White House distributes $100 billion in clean energy grants. I'm going to say green, and that's the green that's going into people's pockets. So this is unbelievable.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we started this project, Lame Duck Watch, after the election, once the results were official. And because we knew the Biden administration on their way out the door was going to try to sabotage the incoming Trump administration on all things green, all things wind and solar. And the biggest accomplishment the Biden-Harris administration has in this space is if you can call it that, but their biggest accomplishment is money. And if you look at any of the cabinet secretaries, when they talk, if you listen to even Vice President Biden, Vice President Harris on the campaign trail, everything always came down to we've invested $50 billion here, we've invested $5 billion there, as if spending money were somehow a metric of success. regardless of whether or not these programs even work, money is everything. And so we knew once the election was clear, this administration would try to spend as much money as possible for two reasons. One, this will hopefully create a lot of obstacles for the incoming Trump administration. Once money's out, it's hard to get back. And if you have given money to these Green projects here and there or these green climate justice groups, which no one really knows what they do, they're going to create a lot of problems going forward. And then second reason why they're giving a lot of money, they're buying golden parachutes. You look at someone like Secretary Granholm, the energy secretary, I'm proud to say the outgoing energy secretary, when she testified before Congress multiple times saying, They would rail on the fact that she never divested in any of these companies that were getting huge grants for electric buses, etc. And she would flat out just lie to Congress. This is where I get very frustrated with Republicans in Congress, because then they would go on radio and TV and say, this is outrageous. And I would be screaming, do something, right? Do something about it. If you're not allowed to – if you're breaking the law, if there's an ethics complaint that I gave this company billions of dollars, oh, and I own stock in the company, do something about it. But they don't. They just stop with the feigned indignation. Grants to these types of companies will guarantee that they will get jobs in the next – once the administration is done. These folks – They need an income. They need a health care plan. They need to put their 401k at work to work. And the best way to do it is to get a job on a board or as a strategic advisor at one of these companies who was the beneficiary of billions of dollars in grants from the Biden administration. So that's what we're keeping an eye on.
SPEAKER 16 :
How is it that the administration has all this money to give out? I thought that the House of Representatives was the one that had the purse strings.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, this was all part of the Inflation Reduction Act, which the Biden administration says was around $400 billion in grants. But the Wall Street Journal estimated it to be closer to $1.2 billion. And the Inflation Reduction Act, if you and your wonderful listeners remember, and I'm sure you do, This passed almost two years ago. It was basically Christmas Eve. Not one Republican voted for it. And quite frankly, it did cost Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia his job. He was the deciding vote. They promised him a whole bunch of carve-outs for West Virginia. He ultimately caved. None of those carve-outs came to be true. He was duped, and his constituents were livid at him. And Joe Manchin, who was up to this point... on energy issues, a great senator. Moderate Democrat, represented the people of West Virginia for years as a senator and previously as governor. He knew he was toast. He retired, even though he wanted to run again. So this Inflation Reduction Act is a disgusting poison pill of gobs of money. And sadly, it is signed into law. And just because it's a law we disagree with, It doesn't mean we have the right to not follow the law. So the Republicans have a huge burden on their shoulders starting in January to repeal as much of this as possible and claw back all of these green investments. And that's going to be a problem. Because of Republicans, yes, there are governors like your governor in Colorado, Governor Hochul in New York, Governor Newsom. Democrat governors love the green cash. But there are a lot of Republicans who also like free cash. And you see Republican governors embracing wind and solar and transmission lines and carbon capture, the biggest scam ever. On the planet. And when when it comes time to repeal, it's going to be those Republicans who are going to say, hey, how about you just keep my little corner of this is the problem with with with D.C. money. People get addicted to free money. Republicans are just as guilty as Democrats.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they really are. But the bigger picture is, is this is printing money, which creates this government-induced inflation, which is squeezing our families as they're going to the grocery store, their energy costs. It's squeezing our families. And it's really, I think, immoral. So one of the first things I would... I would like us. I don't not think the government should be giving out grants. I do not think that's the proper role of government, Daniel Turner.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I agree with you 100%. And when it comes to all of these green technologies and wind and solar and batteries, if there were a market demand for it, and this is why I love your show and I love your catchphrase, if these were great ideas and there was a market demand for it, we would not need to force it on the American people. And outside of government mandates... for renewable energy, so-called renewable, where your state, your governor, your city council says, by the year 2035, 50% of Colorado's electricity has to come from wind or solar. Well, that's a government mandate. And now if you're a utility company, you say, holy goodness, I got to find some wind and solar. So you have to start finding wind and solar companies. And then the government swoops in and says, don't worry, we have all this free money, and we'll give it to you to put up wind and solar. If these were good technologies, if they worked, if the people wanted them, we wouldn't need government mandates, and we wouldn't need government cash. And the problem I think we're going to face, which really does frighten me not to sound apocalyptic. But one of the things that frightens me is that the Trump administration is going to cut off those mandates and that cash, and you're going to have municipalities nationwide that now have these awful wind and solar things that don't work. And what do we do to their electricity, right? We've closed the coal plant. We've closed the natural gas plant. We're praying that these things work. But when the money dries up to backstop it, What's going to happen? And we know what's going to happen because we look at places like Germany. We look at all of Western Europe where their electricity prices are going on 15, 20 times what ours are because the money has dried up and now they are paying the cost. going green and and it is bankrupting their economies Germans economy is in full-out recession because of their energy policies and that's America's future unfortunately and we have to let it happen that's what breaks my heart Kim we have to let this happen because we cannot continue to backstop failed technology with government money
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, Daniel Turner, this day of reckoning is going to come one way or another. One could be on our choice, or the other is market forces eventually will just make it happen. And so let's get in the driver's seat on this. Daniel Turner, a couple of things. First of all, I had mentioned a Climate Conversation documentary in the first segment, which is the documentary that is the project of Walt Johnson. And we have created these amazing podcasts. And you are one of our guests on that podcast. And I would so recommend people check that out at climateconversation.com because it was just a great conversation. And people can learn more in depth of everything that's happening at Power of the Future. So we thank you for doing that podcast.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it's a wonderful documentary. I can't recommend it to enough people. I've recommended it many times. I've watched it many times because I feel like I'm always learning as you listen to these experts talk about a real conversation on climate. And we've hit the point with some of our more prickly issues, climate being one of them, but we could also talk about the gender issue. We could talk about abortion. We could talk about education. Sadly, we've hit the point in our nation that we can't have climate conversations. And I've said many times, and I've testified before Congress, and it's never Friendly. It's never a conversation. It is scream. I'm the one getting screamed at. Right. I can't scream back because they would arrest me as contempt of Congress. But I get screamed at by these politicians who are so full of rage and anger. There's no climate conversation to be had. And you watch this documentary and you do such an incredible job with it. where you just ask a very honest question and let's talk about it. And if you are curious about the climate issue and you don't know much about it, I cannot encourage you enough to watch this just brilliantly done and really easy to understand masterpiece. It really is wonderful.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you, Daniel. I wasn't quite expecting all that, but we do agree. And people have really said they appreciate just really the gentle questioning, the Socratic questioning, and that it's really has helped people get their brain around these issues. And then the podcasts are super awesome. So we're going to continue the discussion. with daniel turner who is the founder of power the future we get to have these conversations because of our sponsors and lauren levy can help you with anything mortgages in 49 of 50 states just not new york so again lauren levy for everything mortgages
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Another gift idea that I have for you is this great little Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And the center is located in Pueblo because Pueblo is known as the home of heroes. Four Medal of Honor recipients grew up in Pueblo, Colorado, which is pretty remarkable. Andrew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient who grew up in Pueblo, and Brad Padula are the co-founders of the Center for American Values. It's located on the beautiful Riverwalk, and they're doing all kinds of great things. You can find that at AmericanValueCenter.org. But this little book is just beautifully done, so inspirational, and a lovely gift. So be sure and check that out at AmericanValueCenter.org. And Daniel Turner is on the line with us. He's the founder of Power the Future, really focusing on the people that feed and fuel us. And first thing, Daniel Turner, this just came in on the headlines. And this is from The Sum and Substance. And it says, business leaders are deflated by preliminary state rules on carbon management. This is here in Colorado. It says, Colorado regulators... gave preliminary approval Thursday to the state's first comprehensive rules on carbon capture and sequestration, stringent rules that business leaders warn could scare off projects that are needed to meet statewide emission reduction goals. And these rules from the Colorado Energy and Carbon Management Commission, any time I see the word commission, I think of 1984, which is Orwell's book, but they're said to give final approval on December 11th. which will include the state's application to take regulatory primacy for the growing sector from the EPA. This is pretty scary, Daniel Turner.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the whole carbon nonsense, and this is going to be an enormous responsibility for our incoming EPA administrator, Lee Zeldin. We need to define our terms before we can make policy. And one of the crafty things the Biden administration has done, and we've accepted it, we've somehow developed this notion that carbon and carbon dioxide are poisons. And need to somehow be regulated or can be even regulated. And the problem here is that it's very similar to arguments in COVID. Arguments that we see in the trans movement, where when we just accept the fact that gender is a construct. And now we make policy based on that. And you have to go back to the premises of the argument and say, I don't buy that premise. I don't buy the premise that gender is a construct, a social construct. I don't buy the premise that carbon dioxide is a pollutant. And so before we can even talk about regulating it, we need to have the EPA determine policy. What pollution actually is. I use this often when I talk to college students and I give these presentations on climate issues and I ask them what percentage of the air is carbon dioxide, right? The air that we call it air, atmospheric particles, etc., what percentage of it is carbon dioxide? Is it 12%? Is it 50? Anyone know? And then when you tell them it's 0.04% of what we breathe, of what's in the air is carbon dioxide. And you say, now that 0.04%, how much of that carbon dioxide is produced from humans breathing? Anyone know? And you say it's 0.03%. So 0.03% of 0.04% is what we're talking about. And as a reference, I usually put up a graphic of a football field because everyone knows football. And when you have the ball on third and inches, right? And if it's inches, we're so close to a first down, it's inches. 0.03% of 0.04% of a football field is about 1 20th of an inch of the one yard line. So look at the entire football field and go to 1 20th of an inch of That's what we're arguing about. We're spending trillions of dollars. We're decimating third world nations. We're empowering Russia and China and Iran with untold wealth to create hell around the world over Russia. 1 20th of an inch of the one yard line of the football field? How silly are we? How silly have we become in these climate arguments? And that's the problem I have with the whole carbon capture movement. We have allowed the left to define the terms, and we need to take a number of steps back and say, this is all absolute stupidity. I'm not playing your carbon capture game anymore.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and the other thing is carbon dioxide is plant food. We might want to also mention that. And so when there's more carbon dioxide, plants thrive and flourish. And, gosh, I like thriving and flourishing for plants and people and the whole thing. So questions? Generally, I've been pretty excited about many of the announcements for Donald Trump's picks for his cabinet and other important positions. But I am concerned, first of all, regarding Kristi Noem. My understanding is that she's been very pro-carbon pipelines and all that goes with that and The more I'm learning about that, it seems to me like it's a land grab. So I'm concerned about Kristi Noem. What's your thoughts on all that, Daniel Turner?
SPEAKER 08 :
I am not surprised that Governor Noem got a position in Department of Homeland Security, meaning that she did not get a job in one of the energy-focused areas. And if you recall, even on the campaign trail, President Trump would say that he loves RFK. He understands RFK's mission and making America healthy and looking at the ingredients in our food and working with small farmers. But then he would joke, but I'm going to keep him away from the oil, right? I'm going to take care of the oil because he knows on the climate issues and on energy issues, RFK is a disaster. He's an absolute climate lunatic. So focus on our food. I'd like to know what the ingredients of our food are. And I think that's a great place for him to spend his time. And similarly for Governor Noem, I have a huge problem with Republican governors who, as I mentioned earlier, are addicted to free money from the federal government to push a climate agenda. And that's exactly what the Biden administration did with Governor Noem and with many other Republican governors. They give them free money to say, if you build this carbon capture facility, if you lay the pipelines to get the carbon dioxide to the facility, we'll pay for everything. And then the governors get to say, we got this grant and we created jobs. And all of that is very attractive, right? 5,000 new jobs created this month, and they're all construction, blue collar, and You take photos with the labor union. But we're building nonsense. Right. We could hire FDR did this masterfully. We could hire millions of people to dig ditches and fill them back in. And I don't think Keynesian economics works. are a solution to fixing the climate. And that's all they have in their back pocket is spending money and hiring people to do silly jobs. I have a big problem with the carbon capture agenda. And I do have a problem with using executive powers imminent domain to force people to give up their land to lay carbon dioxide, carbon capture pipelines against their will when the whole thing is a bunch of hokum. It really is. The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. As I said earlier, Republicans are just as guilty of being bribed by free cash.
SPEAKER 16 :
They are. And then last question. Doug Burgum, who is the governor of North Dakota, is pretty cozy with Bill Gates. And Bill Gates, in fact, gave $100,000 to his gubernatorial campaign or in support of his gubernatorial campaign. So I'm a bit concerned. And let's see, Doug Burgum is Department of Interior, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Interior, yes. And their relationship is based on nuclear energy. I think this says a lot more about Bill Gates than it does about Governor Burgum. Bill Gates is building these enormous data centers everywhere around the country because we're moving to this AI technology and AI requires technology. A huge amount of electricity and coupled with his micro with his AI data centers is he is constructing micro nuclear reactors because they need they need power. There was an article not long ago that Bill Gates is reopening a reactor to a three mile island, the famous three mile island where nothing happened. but the media scared us throughout the 80s that we were all going to die from nuclear fallout. Bill Gates is reopening Reactor 2 at Three Mile Island to power his new data center. I'm fine with that, but I have some huge concerns. Mostly, I think it's comical that for the rest of us, Bill Gates wants wind and solar. But when it comes to his profits... He wants nuclear, right? He's not building a wind farm, right? He's like, no, I need these things to work. I can't risk my data center on the wind or whether or not the sun is going to shine. I don't know where you are today, but here in rural Virginia, it's completely dark, cloudy, overcast, pouring rain, no wind. Your wind and solar right now is doing absolutely nothing. And Bill Gates says, I can't risk that. I got money to make. So he's building nuclear. That's a concern I have. And secondly, I'm concerned of the corporatism, because the American people deserve to reopen reactor two for cheap electricity. Why is it that corporations get to swoop in? So I'm not concerned at all about Doug Burgum. I think he's a fantastic pick. I think he understands the need for technology and reliable electricity, and he'll make sure it happens. I am concerned that people like Bill Gates get to write gigantic checks to get nuclear reactors built when our governors and our city councilmen, et cetera, don't have that same political pressure just because they want to serve their constituents. They will put crappy wind and solar that is inefficient, expensive, Chinese-made with slave labor. They'll stick the American people with that. But corporations that write big checks can get the good electricity. And that is a huge concern I have going forward.
SPEAKER 16 :
I love the fact that you are just right to the point, Daniel Turner. And I would recommend that people get on your list for PowerTheFuture.com. We'll talk again soon. And I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Kim. God bless.
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Back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Thank you, Joe. I just asked Joe a question, and he had that in my ear. if i lost my train of thought that's what happened there a couple of things i did want to mention the colorado union of taxpayers which is an all-volunteer group that watches legislation that is scheduled for hearing down at the state house and of course the legislature will convene the first part of january we'd love to have you be a member It's only $25. We are going to have a legislative kickoff on the 23rd of January. And we'd, again, love to have you join us. And it's only $25. And this group, when you see them, say thank you to Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honaker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, and Mary Jansen. They are spending a lot of time. to stay on top of all this, and I do really, really appreciate them. On the line with me is Rich Guggenheim, and he is the Colorado Director, I think, of Legislative Affairs for Gays Against Groomers. Rich Guggenheim, welcome. Did I get that right?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, actually, I am just the Director of Legislation for the whole country now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, so that's why you were in Washington, D.C., huh?
SPEAKER 17 :
That's correct. Yep. A lot bigger plate to deal with.
SPEAKER 16 :
This is huge, and you sent over some of the photos and videos of your time in Washington, D.C., and then you sent this over from Radar, and it says, Gays Against Groomers went to the U.S. Supreme Court to fight for Tennessee's right to save children. So when did you go, and again, this was the oral arguments on this particular case, so set this up for us. When did you go? What happened?
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, well, I'll set it up before I got there. We were asked as an organization if we would help write an amicus curiae. And I thought, sure, I've never done this before, but I will approach this from my background as a scientist and worked with several other organizations on this. We had detransitioners that were able to share their story. I approached it from a science background. and threw in some science journal articles from medical journals that showed the harm of it. I decided with others that we should throw in some case law that sets the case that says that states do not have the right to harm children, and that gender-affirming care is not, in fact, care, but is harmful, that we demonstrated in the science piece of it. And then the transition stories of the harms that have been caused by it, We were truly honored and humbled by the fact that this amicus out of the many, many, many amicus that were submitted was chosen for oral arguments. So I got to go. I got a ticket to be in the Supreme Court while oral arguments were happening. And that was truly a unique, humbling experience. Our friend Travis Morrell was there. I was also asked to speak at a rally that was being held outside on the steps of the Supreme Court. And I got to talk where I made it clear that we as gay and lesbian people have never supported anything that would harm children. And if the LGBTIQA plus community seeks to undo the harm that they have done to themselves, we've got to support policies that ensure the safety and well-being of our children. And so that happened. That was really intense. I had a lot of Media coverage, as you alluded to, some friendly and also some people that were very unfriendly towards all of that. And then afterwards, I had the opportunity to go over and have lunch at the Heritage Foundation. I did not realize that my speech was retweeted by Elon Musk, viewed over 22 million times.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and my phone's just going crazy with the pop-up notifications, and I'm like, oh, hey, I'm trying to read a speech. But that led to an incredible opportunity. I want to say thank you to our friends, Greg and Lisa Lopez, who opened so many doors for us. I got to speak with Speaker Mike Johnson. I got to talk with Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nancy Mace, Stephen Scalise, It was just a huge list of people that we got to speak to. And on Wednesday afternoon, we went over and spoke to Senator Marshall, Robert Marshall out of Kansas. And I had a dad with me whose son has, he's lost his son to a gender ideology, started transitioning at two. His ex started transitioning their two-year-old son. And I wanted him to hear that story. Because that's super impactful as a dad. I'm sure you can imagine this man telling the story and losing his child to this. And so the next day, Senator Marshall introduced a bill in the Senate to ban gender-affirming care on minors.
SPEAKER 16 :
Really? Yes. Okay, and that would be federal law, so that would be across the complete United States, yes?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes. And so I really hope that we can get all of the senators. This shouldn't even be, as you and I have talked, this should not be a right versus left. This should be right versus wrong. And I think that there should be 100 senators who will sign on to this bill. We know that's not going to be the case, but this is really going to put people on public record to show, do you support the mutilation of children? And that's one of the things that you may have seen the video about. We were in the Hall of Congress and we ran across AOC and we asked her, why do you support butchering children under the guise of inclusivity?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I watched that video that you sent over, yeah, and you were like a dogged journalist behind her and she just was really ignoring you.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, what you didn't see was she was having the gaggle That's a term referring to a small press conference. It's just a little group of media people. And one of the media outlets that was there just went off on us for interrupting his press conference. And I looked at him and I'm like, who are you? And he's like, I'm the press. I'm like, I'm her constituent. She works for me.
SPEAKER 16 :
You said that?
SPEAKER 17 :
I did. I did.
SPEAKER 16 :
Rich Guggenheim, this has been quite the journey for you. Did you ever dream that you would be in Washington, D.C. at the Supreme Court? This has been quite the journey.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, it has been the journey. And no, I never thought that I would do that. If you know where I'm from, I am from a little small town in Colorado. We don't even have a stoplight. It's a small town that is 14 blocks long and three blocks wide. And if the river floods, then it's even smaller. So it's, you know, you just, I will tell you this. If you've ever been to the state Capitol or you've ever been to Washington, D.C., this is our government. And it is so important for us to make our voices heard. And in this case, I had a truly humbling experience to be able to go there and tell this story and say that this ideology robs children of their innocence and it deprives them of the freedom to grow up and live healthy happy productive adult lives and we have to stop that
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it is such an attack on our children. So tell us about the Supreme Court case. And this is what Tennessee has a law that would be banning the gender mutilation of children. And they're being sued for that. So this has made it all to the Supreme Court, correct?
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. And this case is one of the, I think there are 24 states across the country right now that have passed bans on gender affirming, what's known as gender affirming care on minors. So this pediatric gender affirming care really comes down to being the right for some people to say to its bodily autonomy. What I don't believe is that a child can make a decision with their prefrontal cortex having not been developed to say, I want to pump myself full of hormones, wrong sex hormones. I want to pump myself full of off-label drugs that we know cause harm, sterility, cancer. And there's just so many side effects of this that we could go on all day about that. But you could read the science. We also, you know, we're chopping off healthy body parts. And it was absolutely shocking to me to hear Justice Sotomayor talk about removing healthy body parts from children as if it was a haircut. Now, you and I both know that our hair grows back. I have to go get my haircut every few weeks because of that. But if you chop off an arm, it's not going to grow back. If you chop off a leg, it's not going to grow back. And so this idea that it is something as simple as getting your haircut is so deeply insulting and shows an absolute lack of compassion for and understanding of human physiology and biology. She thinks that this is how it works. And I also thought when she's talking about this, how insulting it must be to women who have survived certain forms of cancer and have to have certain body parts removed for her to just say, remove it like it's a haircut.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and then I'd seen a headline regarding Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson that was trying to make this gender mutilation of children a civil rights issue. So were you there when she was commenting on that?
SPEAKER 17 :
I was. And it's not a civil right. It's a civil wrong. Nobody has the right. to mutilate a child, and a child does not have the right to consent to something that they cannot fully understand the lifetime of complications that are going to result from it. And I don't believe that. We heard people saying, oh, I knew my child was trans. They started telling me they were in the wrong body at 18 months. Your child can't even string together a coherent sentence at that age. Why are you insisting that they're trans? It's this logic. It's not logic. It is propaganda.
SPEAKER 16 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we are independent because of great sponsors. And I thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. All that is under attack because our oil, gas, and coal industry are under regulatory bureaucratic attack, particularly here in Colorado. We're at the tip of the spear for all of this stuff that's happening. We're at the tip of the spear, I think, on this gender mutilation of children as well. And that's why the Supreme Court case... And it's Grimetti versus Tennessee that was heard last week. And Rich Guggenheim, who lives here in Colorado, he is the director of legislative affairs for Gays Against Groomers. And Rich Guggenheim, set this up the day that you went to the Supreme Court, going into the chambers. What happened? How they introduced the case? What does all that look like?
SPEAKER 17 :
That is, well, first of all, you get there, if you are brave enough to camp out overnight, you camp out overnight. And then in this case, being such a high profile case, there's a lot of people there camping out. And you get there and you're waiting in this line and they come out and they hand out tickets. Under normal circumstances, they issue about 50 tickets. And then there's a public viewing line where the public is allowed to go in and view it for three minutes. In this case, they took away the public viewing line, and they opened up more seats for interested parties to come and sit. So you get in there, and then there's – it's very – it almost feels like pomp and circumstance to a certain extent. You know, when you come into a normal courtroom, everybody stands, and then there's – They say the honorable judge so-and-so is presiding, all rise. You stand up, the judge sits down, and you sit down. But then there's like this whole ceremony that comes along with this. You know, everybody stands up, and then they say the honorable justice so-and-so and the associate justices, and they read the theme, and they're like, oy, oy, oy, and it's – Then after that's done, they sit down. And each side, in this case, you have both sides of the attorneys on both sides representing. And in this case, the ACLU was representing the people who support mutilating children. And their attorney was the first transgender identifying person to argue a case before the United States Supreme Court. And then we had our side. Each side gets 30 minutes to make their case. And there's some back and forth between the justices and the attorneys on these issues. And it was quite a fascinating experience. For those of you who, your listeners who may be interested, you can go to the Supreme Court website and listen to the audio version of it. You can't bring anything into the courtroom with you. You can't even bring your Apple Watch with you. So everything comes off. And it's quite fascinating because, you know, you're just there and it is so much to take in. It's quite the experience. You know, you're just trying to. really use all of your senses while you're there to absorb the moment that you are living in right now. And I truly, honestly believe that this was a defining moment in the history of the United States. And it's going to change the trajectory that we are going down with gender ideology. This is the first domino to fall.
SPEAKER 16 :
So all of the justices come in and each side has 30 minutes to present. Is there a back and forth between each side as they're presenting and the justices? Do they ask questions or what does that look like?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it's usually, you know, you have each side gets their 30 minutes and the justices will go back and forth with that lawyer and they'll say this. There's questions that they're going to ask and statements that they're going to make during it that kind of gave you a clue as to the cards that they're going to play. I think when they issue their, it's called an opinion, not a ruling or a verdict. So when they issue their opinion, you can kind of tell where they're leaning. I really felt that there's a great, strong presence among some of the justices that they are going to oppose this. And then there's others. And I have to say this about Justice Barrett. She seems more neutral on this issue, maybe even a little bit on the fence. And so I'm hoping that that's just because she actually has some jurisprudence on this and she is discreet. But then there are others that you could just tell, like, oh, yeah, we are playing this as a social justice right. Or no, we are absolutely opposed to this. And so it's kind of fascinating to see that piece of it as you're sitting there and you're listening. You can almost tell. And there are just moments in that there where you hear the argument being made. And for me, you know, you're trying to keep your composure because you're absolutely silent in this room. But you get that knot in your stomach as you hear it. And then there's other times where you're just like, yes, zing. And so it's kind of an emotional roller coaster for you being in that courtroom. And I suppose it's that way for everybody, regardless of what side of the issue you're on on that particular case.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wow. Okay. So and how long was the case heard?
SPEAKER 17 :
it's, it's, it runs about an hour to an hour and a half. It gets, you know, with all of the, the, the pieces that take up the most time, honestly, are for us to get in there, put our stuff in the locker, go through the security. And it's like the thing that you go through at the airport where you stand there and you put your arm up and it goes around you. And it's literally the same kind of same machine. And so by the time everybody gets through that and into that, and you get into your seat and it's, You're in there for probably a good two and a half to three hours.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Okay. Next question. I saw this article that just recently came out. Let me give the credit here. This is from, it's called Stacker. And it says, how the Supreme Court case on trans youth could affect health care for all Americans. Okay. And it says this case, and again, they use all the words of gender affirming care. No, it's gender mutilation. So I'll change some of the words. It says the Supreme Court case that will decide whether Tennessee can continue to ban gender mutilation for transgender youth could imperil the ability of all Americans to make decisions about their health care, experts say. The outcome depends on how far the court is willing to stretch its ruling that overturned federal abortion rights. And I love it when they say experts, but they don't say who that expert is. This is all part of, I think, kind of journalism that's trying to affect people's opinions. So what would you say to this? Is there trying to use this as a, quote unquote, a scare tactic for people to make decisions about their health care?
SPEAKER 17 :
That's exactly what it is. And it has nothing to do with that. The whole premise of this case is ending the gender mutilation of children. This is not about depriving anybody of the rights to receive health care because this is not care. This isn't about health. It deprives people of that. And as I said earlier, this is about forcing an ideology on children and parents without giving them all of the facts that will later deprive children of of the freedom to live happy, healthy, productive adult lives. And that's wrong. There's nothing, nothing acceptable about what we're doing to children, and we're literally butchering them and sterilizing them. And the fact that a lot of parents, and a lot of people say we should be going after the parents. I think a lot of parents are also manipulated into this because we have this pharma-medical media industry lying to them, withholding information from them. And you may have heard about the lawsuit that was filed against the top pediatric gender sex change operator. That person is also the same person who withheld publishing information in science that showed that there was no positive outcomes for children who undergo this emotionally.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. And I'm seeing all kinds of headlines on bureaucrats that are manipulating data, whether or not it might be water quality or this. These bureaucratic agencies have really lost about all credit with me, and I think many more people are waking up to that as well. Rich Guggenheim.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, absolutely. And I think that's the important thing that we have to, we have to shine the light on this stuff. And I think as you say, these experts. People don't trust the experts anymore because the truth is coming out. We don't trust the media anymore, and that's why you see legacy media dying. We don't trust the science anymore because the scientists are being bought and paid for by special interests. And it's these same people who are buying up the media, buying up the politicians, and driving this agenda that is harming Americans and depriving us of freedom and liberty.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and that's why the work that you're doing is so important. So just clarify just one more time. You said that Elon Musk tweeted out, or not tweeted, X'd out, I guess, your speech from the steps of the Supreme Court. And 23 million people looked at that. Did I hear that correctly?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, which was, it was crazy. Yep, that is right. And I really... if he ever gets the opportunity to hear me or meet me or hear this, I just, I appreciate what he is doing to protect children. And he's got a special interest in this as his own child with one of his own children. So yeah, 23 million people have viewed that speech and it's, it was crazy. And one of the experiences to walk into the heritage foundation and they have a big screen in their, in their lobby with all the new stuff. And there's literally me doing a media interview on TV at the heritage foundation and
SPEAKER 16 :
That's really cool. How can people find the speech?
SPEAKER 17 :
You can find it on our Gays Against Groomers X feed. It's against groomers. You can also find it online. I've got it online. It's 5280 based homo. And I've got that. And you can see some of the other clips that were more interesting during my time there at the U.S. Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, Rich Guggenheim, changing gears just a little bit, kind of the final question, is Colorado is really at the tip of the spear on this transgender mutilation of children with legislation and bureaucratic decisions. Do you, your ear to the ground, do you hear of any other things regarding this whole gender question that's going to be brought forth in this next legislative session?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, there is this rumor that I'm hearing that there is a plan to introduce a transgender bill of rights here in Colorado. I worked with some of our representatives during the interim to write bills. I've got about 10 bills that I've proposed. I know one of them that has been, we're going to continue working on a parent's bill of rights. We've got a detransitioners bill of rights. There's one, again, that we're going to try again with our ballot initiative to save girls' sports. Um, we are coming up when there's a faith act, which is going to prevent non custodial parents from sheltering and housing children. We've got the stream act, which will require schools to stream all classroom content because it really helps neurodivergent children who get sick. I love to not get behind, but, um, you know, we've got so many bills that we're working on. And just so you know, at the federal level, since I've been in DC, I talked to, um, Senator Marshall, as I said, but I've also talked to our own Lauren Boebert, and I've talked with Nancy Mace, and I submitted three draft bills to introduce at the federal level, Save Girls Sports, Parents Bill of Rights, and Detransitioners Bill of Rights.
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Wow. How can people follow you, and how can people help you?
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Well, you can follow me on 5280BasedHomo on all of the socials. You can also follow Gays Against Screamers. And, you know, I'll just say this. As you can imagine, these things all cost money. This trip to D.C. alone was about $1,600. So anybody who can donate to help cover those costs, we definitely appreciate your donation. If you are part of the LGB or T community, join us if this is something that you believe in protecting children. And if you're just an ally, we definitely need you in this fight, too. Go to our website. Subscribe to our newsletter. Follow us on all of the socials. And when we have rallies, when we have school board meetings, when we have the need to sign up and testify at the state capitol, at the school board, at the city council, I just did a training on Saturday night on how to testify. We need people to show up and testify. These are your children. These are our children that are being mutilated. And we have to fight to protect them. And I know we work. I know we have a lot on our plates. But Our children are the most sacred thing that we have been entrusted to provide for and take care of, and we need to do all we can to protect them.
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Well, I totally agree. And, Rich Guggenheim, thank you. And thank you. Pretty exciting, pretty impressive, and pretty courageous on going to Washington, D.C. So keep me in the loop on everything that's happening. I greatly appreciate it.
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Yeah, will do. Thank you, Kim.
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It's closing its doors for good on December 31st, according to social media posts. And it says the advent of COVID, steadily increasing costs, including food, paper products, wages, insurance, and taxes, have forced us to raise prices to levels that are increasingly not affordable for many of our customers, the owner said in a post. Try as we might, we have not found a satisfying solution to the challenges we face. We give a heartfelt thanks to those of you who have supported us for these many years. And it says for 66 years, the family owned restaurant has offered Democrats affordable Mexican style dishes beyond just tacos. And the owner said taco houses, cheese enchiladas and enchilada sauce had become signature menu items. But get that. Do you hear this increasing costs? That would be government induced inflation, insurance costs and taxes. So those are the things that we need to get under control. 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God is the only One you can rely on to be faithful to you. “Faithful is He that calls you who will also do it” (1 Thes 5:24). His absolute faithfulness is His grace expression to you. “Great is Your faithfulness” (Lam 3:23). To reciprocate and be faithful to God, you must keep growing spiritually. The more you learn of God’s Word and grow in your advance to spiritual maturity, the more you are responsible for. God expects you to be faithful and to glorify Him. “From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.” (Luke 12:48).
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out like this. There is a unique way to live this
Christian life and it’s based on two things. It's based on number one, the filling of God the Holy
Spirit and that's our first problem-solving device because when we become a Christian, we still
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have a sin nature. This doesn't go away and we’re still capable of sinning so when we sin, we are
able to use the rebound technique, problem-solving device #1. If we go to God and do what 1
John 1:9 says,
“If we confess our sin, He is faithful and just to forgive us and to purify us from
all of our wrongdoing.”
This gets you back in fellowship with God. You see, when we sin, we
break fellowship with God. The Holy Spirit is quenched and the Holy Spirit is grieved when we
sin. Keep in mind that sin can be in three areas, something we think, something we say, or
something we do. When we get back in fellowship, we are confessing the sins that we
committed, not to the priest, but to God because you are a priest. You are a believer priest. You
don't need a priest to confess your sins to, you go right to the Father. You can confess your own
sins and be filled with the Holy Spirit. The minute you name your known sins to God, then the
Holy Spirit is no longer quenched. He's no longer grieved and now He's filling you. The
objective is,
“The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness,
meekness, and mercy”
(Galatians 5:22-23). This is the humility profile of Jesus Christ and as we
grow, as we mature, we develop this profile by means of the Holy Spirit. As we,
“Study to show
ourselves approved unto God”
(2 Timothy 2:15),
“Grow in the grace and the knowledge of our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ”
(2 Peter 3:18),
“Take His yoke upon us and learn of
Him”
(Matthew 11:29), then we begin to take on the character of Christ. We begin to emulate
Christ. We begin to replicate the life of Christ to our friends. They see Christ in us and as we
grow, there are some attitudes that we must develop. This is what this show has been about the
last few weeks. I've highlighted several things that are critical for you to do to make the most of
the time that God allows you to have on this planet. He is only going to allow you so much time
and you cannot afford to waste time and so I identified some things and we have been through
them. By the way, I showed you the two different words for time in the Bible. I don't know if you
remember but let's go back. One of them is
chronos.
It’s a noun, it refers to the time on the clock.
It's 8:07 PM, this is
chronos
. Then there's
kairos
, this is also translated time. It's a moment in
time measured by the quality of that time. When 2 Corinthians 6:2 says,
“This is the day of
salvation,”
it's
kairos
. It's not talking about at 8:07 PM you need to get saved. It’s talking about
this day, this is the day, this is the time. It's time for us to grow up. It's time for us to take our life
seriously, that’s
kairos.
As we get time right, then we see the need to be punctual and I dealt with
punctuality on one of our radio shows. Punctuality is one of our attitudes that are very critical,
then to have patience, then to set priorities in your life. Today as we move forward we want to
move into being prudent.
Prudence is very necessary for any believer in Jesus Christ.
We
have got to have prudence. It's a required character asset. You say “What is prudence?” You
should look at yourself and say, “Am I a prudent person?” The definition is, it's the quality of
being cautious. It’s good judgment that allows us to avoid certain dangers in our life, having
correct knowledge about how things should be done so that we determine the right thing to do in
any situation.
In God's plan, prudence is the same as being faithful.
There are some concepts
concerning faithfulness that we need to look at today. Here's the first one and I don't ever want
you to forget this.
God is always faithful to you.
1 Corinthians 10:13 tells you. I don't know
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what you're going through, what difficulty you may be facing, but here's what it says.
“No trial
has overtaken you that is not faced by others and God is faithful
[there it is, God's always
faithful, this is a descriptive adjective meaning He's reliable].
He will not let you be tried beyond
what you're able to bear, but with the trial will provide a way out so that you may be able to
endure it.”
Listen to 2 Thessalonians 3:3,
“The Lord is faithful,”
same word,
pistis
and this
means that,
“He will strengthen you and protect you from the evil one.”
There's only one
person in your life that is totally faithful and this is God. His divine faithfulness is His grace
expression to you using His perfect character as a basis for this expression.
For example I
just gave you 1 John 1:9. I told you,
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and He just to forgive
us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
He is faithful, He'll do this every time. Every time
you know you’ve sinned and you go to the Father and admit your sin, which is the key to being
filled with the Spirit, when you admit your sin, He's faithful and just [He does it every time] to
forgive you and cleanse you. Then listen to 1 Thessalonians 5:24,
“Faithful is He that calls you,
who will also do it.”
“Great is Your faithfulness”
(Lamentations 3:23).
Here are a few
principles on faithfulness that are worth remembering. Faithfulness or reliability is not just a
divine characteristic. In other words, if you can rely on God, does it seem to make sense that
maybe He would like to be able to rely on you, that God would like for you to be faithful also?
God fully expects the same personality trait in your life as a mature believer. In other words, He
expects you to be faithful, to be trustworthy, to have integrity. The absence of your faithfulness
or your reliability is called faithlessness. This means you're not dependable. God can't depend on
you and this usually means you're easily distracted or you get easily discouraged. You don't live
your life replicating the life of Christ, so you're not giving maximum glory to God. You're not
glorifying God with your life. You're not living faithfully. Some people are going to tell you,
“You know brother, if you’re going to be faithful,” and they'll come up with a list of to-do's and
you will be to-doin until you can't to-do anymore. Who knows how many to-do’s they’ve got?
This is not faithfulness, this is legalism. This is putting you in binds and chains and telling you,
“If you were really faithful brother, you would do this and you would do that.” If you’re faithful,
you will stay filled with the Spirit. If you’re faithful, you will grow in the grace and the
knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. If you're faithful, you are to replicate the life of
Christ by means of the filling of the Holy Spirit. Whatever your spiritual gift is, between you and
God you'll figure it out, if you will let Him use you, He will use you in that venue. Faithless is
not something you want to be called. Faithlessness is not being true to your allegiance of duty. In
other words, if you're faithless, if you have a lack of fidelity, if you're disloyal, it's sort of like the
military soldier going AWOL.
Luke 12:48 says,
“From everyone who has been given much,
much will be required and from the one who's been entrusted with much, even more will be
asked of him.”
The more you know, the more you're going to be responsible for. God expects
faithfulness on your part. Now, if you're a mature believer, I don't know, what do you call a
mature believer? Well, if you’ve been a Christian a few years and you’ve stayed filled the Holy
Spirit and you sit under the ministry of a well-qualified pastor, you should be able to say by now,
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“I'm probably a mature believer.” You’re not going to stay in the first grade all of your life unless
you get into a routine of going to church an hour and a half a week. If you go 30 minutes on
Sunday morning, 30 minutes on Sunday night, 30 minutes on Wednesday, you're never going to
grow up. I don't care how much the pastor teaches you, you’re not going to grow up. It takes
more than an hour and a half a week. What if you sent your kid to the first grade an hour and a
half a week? They would never get out of the first grade. When 2 Timothy 2:15 says,
“Study to
show thyself approved unto God,”
it means a daily routine. Daily you sit under the ministry of
the pastor. Daily you take in God's Word and there's nothing wrong with listening to the Word of
God taught to you every day by a well-qualified pastor. You say, “Well, how do you do this?”
You do it maybe the same way I do it, by DVD or an MP3, and I listen to my pastor teach me the
Word of God on a daily basis. I do it at home at night in my study and I’ve got my Bible, my
notebook, I'm listening, I'm learning and as I learn I recall. You know that the rate of forgetting
can exceed the rate of learning and you're in trouble when this happens. The prudent believer is
going to have a high security clearance with God. God's going to be able to trust you. He's going
to be able to give you things, to entrust you with things because you're faithful and you will do
the right thing in the midst of the angelic conflict. We are in an arena of contention, you know
this. This is the one thing that Satan wants you to do, to be faithless, turn your back on the Lord,
go down the My Way Highway, do what you want to do, get distracted, get discouraged, and let
him defeat you. If you're doing the right thing, if you're going to live the way God wants you to
live, this means doing the right thing when nobody is looking. Do you think no one is looking,
that nobody sees you? Listen to 2 Chronicles 16:9,
“The eyes of the Lord run to and fro
throughout the whole earth so that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely
His.”
The eyes of the Lord, this is an anthropopathism, it’s a big word I know. What it means is
we’re using human characteristics to reveal and explain God's policy toward man. God doesn't
have eyes, not like you and I do. He's omniscient, He's all-knowing. He’s omnipresent, He's
everywhere. He’s immanent, and He’s transcendent. To try to help us understand what God
knows, the writer says that the Lord has eyes and He's looking at you. Job 34:21,
“For His eyes
are upon the ways of man and He sees all of his steps.”
This is not God sitting in heaven on a big
white throne watching the earth and watching everyone of us. This is the way we sometimes
think about it in our mind but it's different. God is omniscient. God can be in your church and in
my church on Sunday morning and even when we're gone, He is still there because He’s
immanent and transcendent. Some say, “We had a great worship service and we felt the Lord. He
was here tonight.” He's there every night. He's in you. He lives in you and sometimes we get
emotional when we think that we called God into the house and God is always in this house
because of His omnipresence. He's able to be in your city and in my city at the same time and
you don't have any more of Him than I do. Keep in mind that Satan, a.k.a. the devil, is not
omnipresent. He cannot be in different places at one time. He is a created being so he can only be
in one place at one time. Proverbs 15:3,
“The eyes of the Lord are in everyplace watching evil
and watching good.”
So we understand these things, that the Lord is well aware of our
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faithfulness and He's well aware of our faithlessness. Proverbs 13:15,
“Good understanding
gains favor, but the way of the unfaithful is hard.”
When you allow yourself to get out of
fellowship, you don’t stay filled with the Holy Spirit, you don't take in God's Word consistently,
you're not growing in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, you're
going to have a hard life because you're going to go down the My Way Highway. You’re going to
be thinking in terms of human viewpoint, not divine viewpoint. This word unfaithful, Proverbs
13:15,
“Good understanding gains favor, but the way of the unfaithful is hard.”
Unfaithful is
often translated in the Hebrew, the transgressor or the treacherous one. The Hebrew word is
bagad
and it's a verb that means being deceitful. Actually, it means to hide something under a
garment, to act covertly, even fraudulently like to steal money or in a bank, have some guy as an
investor and he steals all your money. He's a fraud. He asked covertly so that when you want to
cash in, there's nothing there, a Ponzi scheme sort of guy, that's kind of the idea. God can't
depend on Ponzi's. In Joshua 7:10, there's a place there where,
“They've stolen and deceived the
people of Israel and put what they stole among their own stuff.”
This was after the battle of
Jericho and it’s dealing with the sin of Achan, the unfaithful transgressor (Joshua 7:19 and 21).
Achan was told not to take anything out of Jericho once they defeated them at the battle of
Jericho but he did. He stole some things, some garments and some silver. He hid it in his tent and
God knew it and they were not able to defeat the enemy because of the sin in the camp. I’m
going to tell you something. If you're married and you have a family and there’s sin in the camp,
it’ll ruin your family. If you try to hide it, you try to make like it's not there, it'll ruin your family
because you're being unfaithful. You're sinning, you're hiding something from your spouse and
you know it. Whenever the rate of forgetting exceeds the rate of learning then you can begin to
have forgetfulness. If you’re forgetful, it fuels unfaithfulness. It fuels you not being prudent
because you forgot the things that you learned in Sunday school. You forgot the things that you
learned from your pastor and so when the time comes to do something and do it the right way,
you can't remember and so you are faithless. You say, “Where did you get some idea like that
Rick, about forgetting this?” Well listen to Isaiah 17:10.
“You have forgotten the God of your
salvation.”
Here is the prophet Isaiah speaking to the Northern Kingdom of Israel when they
committed the sin that they were expressly told not to do. Listen to what Moses wrote in
Deuteronomy 8:11,
“Beware that you do not forget the Lord your God by not keeping His
mandates, His judgments, and His statutes which I command you today.”
One of the things that
happens in the downfall of the nation, is the promises of God, the provisions of God, the
principles of God are forgotten and people begin to operate only on human viewpoint.
When you take God out of the schools, when you take God out of the public arena, people don't
remember certain things, and they forget it, and they are easily persuaded to follow a lie.
No
believer can ever be faithful if he doesn't keep growing.
You have to keep growing and you
grow sometimes by looking back, reviewing what you did, and looking forward or advancing.
You look back and remember what you studied and you advance and look forward. Faithfulness
is one of the requirements for a local church. If you're in a church, it can't function without the
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people being faithful. Your pastor has to be faithful to study and teach. The congregation has to
be faithful to learn what he's teaching and then apply it into their life. No church can function if
its members come only when it's convenient. Some churches actually do this today. They
schedule services to make it convenient for members to attend.
Sacrifice, faithfulness, patience,
they are all key attributes in the local church.
They are all required to have a local church. I
don't know what your local church is like but it has to have these things. Now, we move from
prudence into the right perspective in your life following the letter P. We’re using the P’s
alliteration. Having the right perspective means you advance spiritually. Your advance, the way
you grow, depends on your perspective of history. In other words how you look at things, how
you see yourself. Arrogant people don't see themselves as they really are. They see themselves as
they think they are. If they look into the mirror, an arrogant person doesn't see the real him. He
sees an illusion. He sees something that's not really him and he becomes self-centered. If you're
self-centered, self-centered believers have the wrong perspective in the spiritual life. This self-
centered arrogance is the sister of self-righteous arrogance and both of those people are blind.
The self-centered person is blind. The self-righteous person is blind. Neither one of them see
themselves as they really are. They do not have the right perspective about life. Self-centered
believers, they have no objectivity when it comes to other people because they always blame
other people for what they themselves are actually responsible for but they never take credit or
responsibility for it. They always blame it on somebody else. They're childish, proud, and
intolerant of criticism. Self-centered people often want to be in the limelight and boast. They can
be argumentative and get easily bored. This sort of self-centeredness, if you have it or you know
somebody that has it, it'll destroy any capacity for happiness in their life. For example, all
criminals are self-centered. I mean, they justify why it's okay to steal from you, they’re self-
centered. Most politicians are self-centered.
The only cure for a self-centered person is
humility, whether this humility is genuine or whether this humility is enforced by God's
discipline.
This is the only way you can break this self-centeredness. Paul's perspective is seen in
Philippians 3:8 when he said,
“Doubtless, I count all things but loss except for the excellency of
the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and I count
everything in my life but dung that I may win Christ.”
Dung, it’s called a
skubala
metaphor.
Dung is scat, its excrement. He said, “Everything I did in the past is all excrement. [It’s far more
than that]. I consider everything to be worthless because I'm much better off knowing Christ
Jesus my Lord and it's because of Him that I think of everything as worthless. I threw it all away
in order to gain Christ.” In Paul's perspective, religious self-confidence meant nothing to him.
Occupation with Christ was the most important thing to him. I hope you’re learning. I enjoy
hearing from you and love hearing how the Lord is working in your life. There’s a lot I have to
say about this. Until next week I'm your host Rick Hughes saying thank you for being with me
on The FLOT Line
Welcome to the America's Veterans Stories podcast.
Kim Monson is your host.
Michael Keller graduated from high school in 1966, right in the middle of the draft. He eventually enlisted in the Air Force. Keller served in a medical civic engagement unit and was sent to Vietnam where they went into the countryside to give medical attention to Vietnamese who suffered from war injuries or malaria. Memories of the suffering of the children are particularly difficult for Keller and after many years, Keller is addressing his PTSD with help from the VA.
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World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and her other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's veteran stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
SPEAKER 10 :
And welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteransStories.com. And the show comes to you because of a trip that I took in 2016 where we accompanied four D-Day veterans back to Normandy, France for the 72nd anniversary of of the D-Day landings, returned stateside realizing that we need to record these stories, broadcast them, archive them, hence America's Veterans Stories. I'm so pleased to have in studio with me Michael Keller. Michael, you were in the Air Force. I was. Served during the Vietnam War. Correct. So let's start, though, at the beginning. Where did you grow up?
SPEAKER 05 :
I grew up in a town about 80 miles west of Omaha in Nebraska.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
And my grandfather owned a very large ranch in southwest Nebraska, so I spent my summers there. So I kind of lived a dual life growing up, I guess.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. So were you a cowboy? Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love riding horses, and I did a lot of that. Probably harder than working for my grandfather like I should have.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, I grew up in western Kansas, and so I understand farming and ranching, and it's long hours. It is.
SPEAKER 05 :
And early mornings, which I never was a big fan of, and once I got in the military, I had to live that life anyway. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it is early mornings there. So you grew up outside of Omaha, or about 80 miles outside of Omaha, and then summers on the ranch. How did you end up getting into the Air Force?
SPEAKER 05 :
It's kind of an embarrassing story in a way, but I was right in the middle of the draft, and I graduated high school in 1966. And I went to the University of Nebraska in Lincoln University, And unfortunately for me, anyway, I majored in fraternity. And it didn't end well, I'll put it that way. And I came back home after my freshman year. And my father was a very good friend of the postmaster in town. So he got me a job unloading semis at the post office, which was supposed to be a, I guess they called it a critical job. and would keep me from getting drafted again. And I worked there for about four months, and I got my second draft notice because they had hooked me up as a temporary employee instead of a permanent employee. And at that time, I said, well, I don't think I want to go to Vietnam, so I'll join the Air Force.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so you joined the Air Force, and what happened after that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well... I went to basic training in San Antonio, which is where everybody goes, and still today even, and I got into the medical field, what's called medical materiel, which is basically managing all of the medical facilities, the drugs, the whole nine yards, ordering it, getting distributed, and they assigned me to this air mobility unit, and I ended up in... forbes air force base which no longer exists just south of topeka kansas and i got there and after about seven months they and they sent me to jump school because everybody that was going to be in this this situation was going to have to be jump qualified because you may have to jump out of the c-130 I get back from jump school, and a month later, I get notice I'm going to be assigned to Vietnam. So I was there less than a year in Kansas, and so I ended up going to Vietnam. They obviously didn't have that situation going on, so I was assigned to the 12th Tactical Air Force Hospital that was at Cameron Bay, and I was in there. The facilities... And we sent out all of the supplies and materiel to all of the Air Force medical facilities all over the country from there. And I was put on a team that went out TDY or temporary duty and visited all of these. And we were doing inventory and the process of kind of winding down the war. I got to Vietnam in December of 69. And in 70, they were starting to... pull back, I guess, a little bit. And so I ended up probably at eight or nine different Air Force facilities in Vietnam and in northern Thailand.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, graduating in 1966, things were hot, really hot over there at that time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, 69. I got there five days before. Actually, I probably should have said 1970. I got there five days before New Year's of 69. But technically, it's when I was assigned. And As I worked, I got more and more involved in what they called medical civic action program, MedCap, and that's where we would volunteer with medical experience, and we would go out into the villages and into the different parts of Vietnam, and we would treat people. for malaria we treat for napalm burns a lot of things like that that they just didn't have the ability to handle so i probably did 16 or 17 of those over my year and i did it all over so when i'd go tdy like if i went to play coup we'd go up into the for the Montagnards who were kind of our allies and treat them. And I did it outside of Cam Ranh Bay and also outside of Nha Trang and Vung Tau and probably a few other places that I don't remember. And it hit me pretty hard after I got home thinking back about seeing these small children and the other villagers with I mean gruesome stepping on landmines napalm burns I mean all of this and at the point it told me I never wanted to have children did you have children I did but it was later on okay so I came back Actually, I got very fortunate in a way. My mother got ill, and I was supposed to leave on the 29th of December to come back to the States. And my squadron commander got notice that my mother was ill, and he was able to get me out of the country. So I got home before Christmas and got to see my mother.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you were there about a year?
SPEAKER 05 :
I was there short four days of a year. Okay, okay. And... I went on R&R halfway through or seven months after I got there to Hawaii to see my wife, and I met these two. Australian combat engineers. And we ended up going to downtown Saigon and we drank all night and got back about half an hour before our plane for R&R was supposed to go. And they told me they were going to Hawaii when they said, why aren't you going to Australia to meet the Australian women? And I said, well, I'm going to meet my wife. And they said, well, we're going to Hawaii to meet American girls. And I actually met them on my way back. We were on the same plane, and they snuck a bottle of alcohol on the flight, and we drank all the way back to Cameroon. So they were your buds, huh? They were for about, you know, off and on about a week, and I saw them again a little bit later. But they told me at that point, or at least they figured out, that they could drink almost any American under the table without even working at it very hard. That's so funny.
SPEAKER 10 :
And it sounds like they were somewhat successful, huh?
SPEAKER 05 :
They were very successful. And they told me they got in a fight in Hawaii when I guess they were trying to talk to a couple ladies that had boyfriends or husbands. And they took the husband or boyfriends out pretty easily, I guess. Oh, my gosh. Pretty tough guys then. They were, yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
I didn't realize the Australians were in Vietnam as well. I did not realize that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Australians, New Zealand, and what they call ROKS, which are Republic of Korea, soldiers were over there, too. And those were mean motor scooters. They didn't follow any of the... laws of the land, if you will. If they decided that there was a bad guy somewhere, they'd take them out without asking permission.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and it probably was really in Australia and New Zealand's best interest to prevent the success of the North Vietnamese.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. And We were a member of, I don't know if it still exists or not, of an organization called ANZUS, which was Australia, New Zealand, and U.S., kind of like NATO is for the South Pacific.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or Southeast Asia, I guess, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
So let's see, how old were you then when you joined the Air Force?
SPEAKER 05 :
I would have been 19, I guess, just before 20, before I hit 20. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you didn't end up at any, would it be called combat hospitals or anything?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. In fact, the hospital in Cameron Bay was the largest medical facility in the whole country. So we had Marine, we had Army, we had Navy, we had Air Force. I mean, anyone that was on our side and even a few, like, prisoners, they would end up at that hospital. And then we had medical facilities at almost all of the air bases in Vietnam.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. In treating all of these... South Vietnamese, and these injuries, it had to be really tough. Do you feel that they appreciated the Americans being there?
SPEAKER 05 :
They appreciated the medical help that we gave them, and then I did some other volunteer where we'd go out and we'd build a church and we'd build an orphanage for them. But I got to talking to some of the Locals, obviously, when we were out there, they didn't look at us as so much there to help them. They felt like we kind of took over their country. Just like here in this country, there were many sides to every story. And some of them were very happy for us to be there. And then, of course, the ones that got into trouble physically or medically, they tended to blame us for that. And the government in South Vietnam was corrupt before we got there, and it was corrupt right up until 1975 when the North Vietnamese took it over. So have you been back to Vietnam? No, I was scheduled to go back about eight years ago with a group. And I ended up, because of a work situation, I ended up not going. And I'm not sure now, at my age and everything, if it's something I probably should do. I would like to see it, and I've talked to people who have been back, and they said you wouldn't recognize it. It's not even the same country that you were in. It's economically much better off right now. They've got a lot of international investments in hotels and resorts and a lot of businesses there. They're kind of taking over a lot of the Chinese manufacturing that have moved from China into Vietnam.
SPEAKER 10 :
it is rather remarkable all these years later how things do change. I'm talking with Michael Keller, and he was in the Air Force in the Medical Air Mobility Unit. And we'll continue the discussion, but first I wanted to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there's four Medal of Honor recipients. I've been to it. Yeah, it's a special place, isn't it, Michael? Yes. It's so reverent to stand in front of the portraits of each of these Medal of Honor recipients and see their quotes. And it's been my honor to become involved with the center. And if people want more information, they can go to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And we'll be right back with Michael Keller.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. I'm talking with Michael Keller. He is a Vietnam veteran. You were in the Air Force. And you were saying during the break that you had kind of an interesting experience after you returned back from Vietnam.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, they didn't quite know what to do with me because the original part of the train I had was a group that no longer existed. And I didn't have enough time probably to either retrain or they wanted me to reenlist, which I wasn't real interested in doing. So they sent me out to Andrews. air force base in outside of dc and i was assigned to the malcolm crow medical hospital and i did what they i was head of local purchasing where we bought equipment that was not standard military equipment and that was quite interesting getting involved in some of the politics around that as well
SPEAKER 10 :
I bet, because it's always been lucrative for businesses to sell to the government, correct?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, and they... wanted to make sure they got very friendly with a lot of the officers that were involved in acquiring, whether they were doctors, dentists, or even just high up into the procurement side of the government. And I got to see it from a small view because I saw I had to make the purchases, but I saw some of the ramifications leading up to that final decision on purchases. And And as I think I told you, I happened to be in D.C. then during a lot of those anti-war demonstrations that were going on. So what year was that probably? That was 71.
SPEAKER 1 :
1971.
SPEAKER 10 :
What went through your mind as you saw these protesters?
SPEAKER 05 :
I will admit... I was having my own questions about the validity, I guess, of the war itself. I mean, I went over as a, I guess I call myself a vanilla wafer Protestant, grew up in the Midwest in very, you know, Republican families. But I started to question myself, you know, we weren't fighting the war to win it. We were, just seemed like we were marking time. I would never have joined the anti-war. Obviously, I would have gone to jail if I did. But after talking to some of them, I could see why they felt it was wrong. But again, I was in the military. I'd been there. And a lot of the people that were demonstrating had no idea what... what we American soldiers had to go through. And I thought it was a little presumptuous, I guess, of them to go out and protest against people that, you know, I happened to enlist, but it was basically I enlist or get drafted. So it was very confusing for me. And I
SPEAKER 10 :
It was a confusing time for America.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was. And my sister, who was three years younger than me, was a total hippie. And she was, I mean, so anti-war that my father basically refused to have conversation with her for about five years.
SPEAKER 10 :
Our soldiers, our military, our young boys, young, 19 years old, did what they were asked to do. Yes. And to learn that what you just said, that we were over there not fighting to win the war.
SPEAKER 05 :
At least that was my feeling. Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you're not alone in that as well. Right. Michael, I find it really frustrating that we would send our blood and treasure over there, put our young men and women in harm's way, and many lost their lives. And from what I'm learning, there was so many politics up at the upper level that And I'm frustrated about that regarding the Vietnam War. But our military, our young men did what they were asked to do. And my understanding is that we were winning the war, but then politics pulled it back. And I find that a travesty.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was, you know, push hard and then pull back, push hard, pull back, push hard. I wasn't the first to say it, but my experience is, and I even saw it with Iraq and Afghanistan, and that's usually old white men make a lot of money off wars by sending young men that aren't their children or their brothers or sisters.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that still to this day bothers me. I just, I don't, and I... You may get into this later, but I did volunteer work at the VA with a lot of returning Afghan and Iraq patients, particularly around PTSD. And to hear their stories was very disheartening for me, too.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, because the rules of engagement really puts our military in harm's way, I think.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, we took probably 30 rockets outside of Pleiku when I was up there, and we could not fire back. We could see the flashpoints of where they took off, but we couldn't fire back until we got the okay from the village elders who were basically getting paid by both us and the North Vietnamese. I mean, it just— It just doesn't make sense, does it? No, it doesn't. And I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but that was just one of those things that just made me shake my head. And quite frankly, it's one of the reasons that I decided I didn't want to reenlist. I had a really good opportunity. I had made staff sergeant before I went to— Before I even got back from Vietnam and probably would have made E6 if I would have stayed in or reenlisted. But I just said, you know, I want to go on with my life and do something else.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and so you went to Washington, D.C., Andrews Air Force Base. And it sounds to me that like you had conversations, though, with many of these protesters. I find that interesting because I'm not sure there was a lot of conversation going on.
SPEAKER 05 :
Even though I wasn't in uniform, they could tell by my haircut and everything that I was not one of them. And some of them I had very deep conversations with, and they tended to listen to my side, and others basically thought I was the enemy. So I was very careful about where I went and who I talked to.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did you ever feel really threatened?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, a couple times. Because I think involved in just probably any of those kind of very large situations, there are people that are in it for different reasons. I think they're there if they like the power or they want to show that by physical force that they are right and we're wrong. And I felt some of that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, let's go back to Vietnam a bit. You're there for a year. You went out and helped people. You said 16 or 17 different missions. Is that right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I hit probably just about all but maybe two of the Air Force medical facilities. And some of those were just very small dispensaries. I mean, they just weren't very large. They didn't have hospital beds. But... They were a lot of times the one that would, they would see a lot, even Army and Marine casualties, that was the closest place where there was any kind of medical help. So it was not just an Air Force facility, literally anywhere there was medical help in Vietnam. First place, closest place would tend to get, and they'd do what they could do, and then they'd send them on. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did you ever have to jump out of the C-130, ever?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, when I went through jump school at Fort Benning, but never had to do it after that. I always said, once you jump out of an airplane that's perfectly running, you don't really want to do it again. So you only had to do it once? No, no, we had, what did I do, five jumps, six jumps at that point, yeah. I did some cabling down off of helicopters, but that was... That had to be thrilling. Yeah, it was, I guess, especially when they're shooting at you. So you did come under, and you were in combat then. Yeah, and I got wounded in my leg, and also a shell hit our helicopter. I wasn't even supposed to be in combat. I was going from one point to another, and a piece of the side of the helicopter hit me in the mouth, and I knocked. One tooth off, knocked five loose, and I had like 35 stitches in my mouth. And to this point, I have a very bad dental situation, and thank God the VA's taking care of me.
SPEAKER 10 :
You've had a good experience with the VA?
SPEAKER 05 :
Good and bad. My current experience has been very good.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then you said your leg was injured as well?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I got a piece of shrapnel in my leg. And is it still there? No, but it chipped a bone, and I've had some infections that came out of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, Michael, I think that civilians, particularly here in America now, we don't understand the sacrifices that our military has given. And on a personal level— You're probably reminded every day. Dental work, you might still have pain in your leg. I don't think that civilians understand just the sacrifice. And pain, if you have pain, it can be chronic pain is kind of exhausting sometimes. And there's many of our veterans that I think have pain from their injuries.
SPEAKER 05 :
My last jump at jump school, I landed sideways a little bit, and it turns out later on I have too compressed vertebrae in my back, and I get sciatic. It runs all the way down sometime below my knee, and luckily I'm getting good treatment. Actually, I'm getting treatment through UC Health because there's a relationship between the VA and UC Health. And I also was diagnosed when I was 43 years old with prostate cancer.
SPEAKER 10 :
Do you think that that had anything to do with Agent Orange and all that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Being diagnosed that young tended to be one of the triggers. They told me I would be lucky to live to be 60. Okay. So I'm on house money now. I'm 76.
SPEAKER 10 :
I love that. And I think that's so important for people to hear your story, that they say you won't live past the age of 60, and here you are, 76. I think that gives people hope.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, and that's one of the things I've tried to do. COVID really screwed up a lot of that, but I was spending a lot of time volunteering out at the VA, as I said, with these PTSD patients. There were women, too, in there that their PTSD came from sexual, not just harassment, but they were sexually assaulted. And usually by their sergeants or whoever were above them. Yes. There were at least four of them that I remember going through the year and a half that I did that. And those stories, that's not discussed very often either. No, it's not. That's kind of pushed under the rug.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is the second time in this week that somebody has mentioned about rape in our military. And up until this time, I hadn't really realized that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think... When I was in it, there wasn't a lot of it because we had really the only combat, if you will, military females were nurses in the hospitals or the dispensaries. And now, of course, we've got 11Bs. We've got them out in the field. They're flying helicopters. They're flying jet aircraft. I mean, there's so many more of them right now, I think, and it's just – the opportunity maybe has grown because of the percentage of women that are involved in the military. And the ones I've talked to were incredible. I mean, they fight right along with their male counterparts. One I talked to was an A-10 pilot, and just listening to her stories and stuff, I mean, she probably was a better pilot than 80% of the males in her squadron, so...
SPEAKER 10 :
We'll talk about that when we come back. I've meandered, I know. That triggered something that made me think of something. I'm talking with Michael Keller. And as you all know, another nonprofit that I dearly love is the USMC Memorial Foundation. And the Marine Memorial is located right here in Colorado at the... in Golden, in the corner of 6th and Colfax. It was dedicated in 1977. And my friend, Paula Sarle, she's a Gold Star wife, a Marine veteran, and she's the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation. And she and her team are working diligently to raise money for the Marine Memorial remodel. And you can help them and get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We'll be right back with Michael Keller.
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SPEAKER 10 :
And welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteransStories.com. And as you know, a sponsor of the show is Hooters Restaurants and how I got to know them. It's a really interesting story about when I was on city council. And it's a question really about freedom and free markets and capitalism. And I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that like to kind of control things. But Hooters Restaurants is a great sponsor of the show. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And great specials for lunch and for happy hour. And, of course, a great place to get together with friends to watch all the sporting events. Michael Keller, during the break you said that you had traveled all over the world. So tell me a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, after I got back and got out of the military, I realized I probably didn't want to go back to school and become a fraternity soldier.
SPEAKER 10 :
You had your experience with all that.
SPEAKER 05 :
I did that. I decided it was time to settle down and do something.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you were married, though, when you were in Vietnam? You said you went over to see your wife in Hawaii?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Unfortunately, I got married right before I went to Vietnam. Okay. Without getting too far into it, it was a relationship I'd had in high school that kind of changed. And then when I went back home on leave, we reconnected.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, Michael, you said that you reconnected and you got married right before you went to Vietnam. There was a lot of that going on. That's tough. Yeah. And it was on both sides. On both sides. Exactly. And so but I wanted to continue on. You said that you ended up coming back and you. You ended up traveling the world, so tell me about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I got back. I went back to school. I wanted to go into—I got involved in a scuba diving club while I was at Cameron Bay. And when I was back there, we were actually—I got my certificate, diving certificate, by the Navy SEAL group that was there. And we would go diving there. Anytime we could get off, and I decided I wanted to be a marine biologist. So when I got discharged, I had to go to a junior college for one semester because in order for me to get an early release from the service, I got out four months early. I had to have had acceptance into it. institution of higher learning so that I could get out because my last four months were just would have been wasted time as far as I was concerned. And then I just applied and had marginal acceptance because I'd taken some correspondence classes to Scripps Institute in La Jolla, California. And I was literally driving cross-country, stopped and saw one of my old high school football teammates who lived in Boulder. And we went backpacking up in Rocky Mountain National Park. And he convinced me I didn't want to go to California. I wanted to stay in Colorado. And they didn't have a marine biology program.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because we don't have any oceans here.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, and lakes don't count. Sorry. So I ended up actually at Northern Colorado in Greeley, and they didn't have a marine biology program, but I got into their what's called human ecology environmental science program. And human ecology is effectively how we humans affect the world. And back in the mid to late 70s, that wasn't a very popular conversation to have. So I decided I better get a second opinion on life, so I took a second major in information systems in the business department, and that's what I spent my first career in. And I worked for a fairly large, a couple of very large Fortune 200 companies, and a couple of smaller ones, and then I got into consulting, and And the laws in IT consulting are pretty much you never find work in your backyard. They, for some reason, don't think you're that good if you're local. So I would do contract work in San Francisco, and people from San Francisco would come to Denver and do work. But I was the rainmaker in my last two consulting groups, and that meant I was the one that went out and found contracts. And they came from all over. I've been to... 49 of the 50 states, and I've been to probably 50 countries. Wow. Not all in work. It was probably 80, 20 work to just personal travel.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've not traveled that much like that. Of course, you had the experience at Vietnam, but we really have it very good here in America.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that's why I wish I sent both my children or gave them opportunities to get out of the country when they were younger just to see we're not the center of the universe like they think we are.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. But this concept of personal freedom is a pretty unique thing really out there, yes?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Yes. I remember during the Bush II re-election, people would ask me, I think I was taking a taxi from the airport to downtown Prague, and the driver said, are you a Yank or a Canadian? I said, I'm a Yank. And he said, then we got into political conversation. I swear to God, almost everywhere I've been, especially in Europe, people know more about our government than we do. It really woke me up after the first three or four times that happened that we just don't do a very good job of what I call civic education. I mean, college students know less about our government than an 11-year-old might in Zurich, Switzerland.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and Michael, so I'm from western Kansas. You're from Nebraska? Yeah. Okay. I can't quite remember how close Omaha is to Iowa. But so Nebraska boy, Kansas girl. And it's – now I lost my train of thought. It's catching.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hold on here. Let me think about it. Oh, I know what I was going to say. Okay, here we go. And I'd come across the eighth grade exam to graduate from eighth grade back in 1895 in Saline County, Kansas. Whoa. And I am sure that there are kids with doctorates that can't answer those questions. Probably me, too. It's amazing. Yeah. And back then they had questions about civics and all these different things. And we're doing a terrible job on teaching our kids about this. And another thing, I didn't know that much about the Vietnam War because we don't really teach that. And World War II, my understanding, there's not much in history about that. These are important stories that we need to know.
SPEAKER 05 :
My father was in the South Pacific in World War II in the Army. And I was fascinated by, I shouldn't say by war, but by, I guess, my father, my uncle was in the Navy and the South Pacific as well, his brother. And it just, it fascinates me how little even my sisters don't know about even my experiences and their relative experiences in the service. It just almost is like, you know, that's old history. You know, I want to know what's going on right now. I want instant gratification and something that will keep me informed. I mean, keep me involved, but not necessarily informed.
SPEAKER 10 :
There's a lot of that going around these days, Michael. Did your father talk at all about his experience in World War II?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes and no. I would ask him questions, and when I was younger, he didn't. But as he got older, he started opening up more, I guess kind of like I have with my kids. They knew I was in Vietnam, but I don't think they – I never talked to them about what I did or what I saw until maybe this last four or five years. My father got a lung disease in, he was in, where was he, one of the islands New Guinea, I guess. And they sent him home, and he had asthma to begin with, which he tried to get in the Navy so he could be offshore. And the Navy said, we can't take you because you have asthma. But the Army said, you're good to go. And they sent him home on a hospital ship, said they had to resuscitate him twice on the way home and didn't think he'd live to get back here. And he died at 95 of a stroke. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
I love that, that in your family, when you're told that you're going to pass on early, you're like, watch this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Show me, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Show me. Definitely. So he's in the South Pacific, but he didn't really talk about it in any combat.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not much until he got— As he got older, he would share a little bit. But he was in the field artillery, and so they were firing these 155-millimeter, they called them long toms, over this mountain range. And that mountain range divided the Japanese from the Americans. There were some Australians, he said, there with him. And so they just fire over. He said, we fire over the hill, and then they'd fire back. And he never saw... direct hand-to-hand combat, but they did go out on several missions checking on damage or whatever, and he could see the results of his 155 millimeter shells, and I think that shocked him to see what pulling a lanyard could do to other people.
SPEAKER 10 :
I had three uncles that served in World War II in the European theater. And one of them, Kansas farm boy, and left when he was 18 and came back as, I think, a second lieutenant at the age of 22. But he was a bombardier. And he said – my father said that it really did affect my uncle is the bomb had gotten – jammed and so he had to and i guess they had armed it so they had to get rid of it obviously and so he had to kick it out of the bombay and um it hit a farmhouse and he doesn't know if there were people that were in the farmhouse or not but he carried that around in his heart i did get to now i can't remember which one it was but one of the One of the bombers, I actually, the World War II bombers up in Loveland, I got to fly in one of them. And I don't know why I thought that these planes were like as big as, you know, what we fly on now. They were small. Yes, they were. And to get around with that, with the bomb bay open, it's amazing what these guys did.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and you think about, especially in Europe, They weren't pressurized until the B-29 came along. So they were flying at 14,000, 15,000 feet and tied with an oxygen mask. And obviously they weren't temperature controlled. So, you know, you'd be below freezing the whole time you were above probably 8,000 feet.
SPEAKER 10 :
I guess they had these electric suits.
SPEAKER 05 :
But I'd heard tales, too, of people, especially the gunners, that they'd literally lose ends of their fingers in things that would freeze after so many times of holding the guns. I bet that's true.
SPEAKER 10 :
I hadn't thought of that. So, yeah, we're going to continue this discussion. Super fascinating. Michael Keller, he is a Vietnam veteran and veteran. Really, I'm learning so much. I really appreciate it. So we will be right back with Michael Keller.
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From the mountains to the prairies,
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And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Check out the website. That's AmericasVeteranStories.com. I'm talking with Air Force veteran, Vietnam veteran, Michael Keller. And, Michael, during the break, you mentioned that you were diagnosed with PTSD. So tell me about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, unfortunately, it was pretty late in my life. But I think the ones that hit me the hardest were the— Looking back after going out into the villages and doing work, especially with the children and some of the ungodly things that happened, stepping on mines, napalm burns, malaria, I mean, just true third world situations. And I didn't realize at the time how much that kind of hit me until I had my first child, my son. and i started comparing notes and saying oh my god i'm glad it didn't happen to my son but the fact that it did happen to all these other just somebody else's children but people and it really got to the point where i was having nightmares and reliving parts of that and i So I would get up and walk around, and I probably went 10, 12 years of my life, maybe not getting more than four or five hours of sleep. That was just kind of my pattern. And as I mentioned, I started self-medicating, some with alcohol, but mainly working. I worked 60-some hours a week for probably 20-some years of my life. And in that period of time, I also... I eliminated my time with my own children because I just was focused on everything but the rest of my life. And I got involved in the USSA Master Ski Program and got into ski racing when I was in my mid-50s and did that until my second knee operation. And I decided I probably ought to get out of that when I was 63, I think. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're ski racing after you've been told the age that you would pass on. I love that.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I got into big wall rock climbing. We did the Grand Teton up in Wyoming. And we did... You were serious. Yeah, we did the east face of Long's Peak a couple times and tried to do... El Capitan out in Yosemite, and we got lightning, snowed, and rained off twice in three days. So anyway, and my psychiatrist at the VA, as we went through all these things, she said, when you were doing that, your focus on that wall was three foot by five feet, and your focus on this ski hill was to set two gates down in front of you. And I went, yeah. Well, that was just another way of you bringing in your own focus so everything else in your life was out for that period of time, and it was a release, and worked the same way. And it cost me a marriage. It cost me time with my children, and now that they're adults, we've reconnected. But they were told by their mother that I really didn't care enough about them, so that's why I was always gone or doing something else. And so that guilt was pretty heavy. And then, like I told you, I started volunteering at the VA with some group, mostly Iraq and Afghan PTSD students, or patients, I should say. I told them, if you wait like I did 35 years, you're literally losing a period of your life physically, mentally, socially, And you can't get it back. It's burned up. It's gone. And I said, it's kind of like a compost pile. You keep pushing it down and pushing it down. And then when it flames, it can get real ugly. And I have gotten incredible care. I had terrible care. I went out to Walter Reed back in the early 2000s. And after my second visit, I swore I'd never go back to a VA hospital again. And fortunately, another veteran told me about Denver. And I found my psychiatrist here. I found my real good treatment for my prostate cancer. And then I ended up with lymph node cancer, and they took out 57 of my lymph nodes robotically over at UC Health, but interacted through the VA. And I've had nothing but incredible care. That's good to know. Every one of my doctors, they don't treat you like... a number. They treated me at least like a human being. They cared about me. They would check up on me. I know this isn't a paid political announcement for the VA, but for all those veterans out there that haven't gone or won't go, or their significant others, convince them to go because it is an incredible hospital.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, that's really good to know. What can you tell me? How did your psychiatrist unlock this PTSD and help you?
SPEAKER 05 :
By taking me back and forcing me to some extent to relive or to revisit those experiences that I was having. and also with some drugs that help me sleep. And I'm still on an anti-anxiety drug, but it's about a third of the strength it was seven or eight years ago. But she also got me, she was, got her MD in India and she got her psychiatric treatment, or license at, what's the big hospital out in Baltimore? Johns Hopkins. And she got me into meditation. And it took me about a year to, as she said, break the ice and let my mind open up to it. And once it did, my heart rate went down. I mean, my blood pressure went down. I just literally became almost a different human being after getting into meditation. And I wear a bracelet that says breathe on it. Even if things get tight, I'll just Sit five minutes, breathe, and if my blood pressure's up when I get it tested, I say give me five minutes, and I can drop it by eight or ten points. So I guess good news, bad news. The good news is I was diagnosed properly. I was treated. And the bad news was I just waited too long. And God knows what could have been different in my life. But I guess you could say that about anything.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's true. That's certain. But it's important to learn and to share that knowledge with our younger veterans. I think that's really important as well. And we've got about four minutes left, Michael. And this helping younger veterans with this PTSD, this has been something that's been very important to you, yes? Very much so.
SPEAKER 05 :
In fact, Dr. Mukherjee, who was my psychiatrist, is the one that asked if I wanted to join this other group. And at first I said no. I said I'm kind of, you know... That's their generation. I'm my generation. But then I start thinking about it and we got involved and it got I could start seeing some improvement. And then when COVID hit, it got shut off. And that's terrible. We tried to do it with, you know, videos and that. And I can't do that. I'm very three dimensional and I want to be face to face.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that was a real travesty during that time. I look back on that. It's almost like it was a dream that our country went through that.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was surreal. That's kind of the way I put it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I know. Really, it was surreal. So, Michael. Pretty amazing life experiences. And, you know, what would you like our listeners to kind of what's kind of your final thought you'd like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think for me, having not been a very good father, a very good husband as far as being away all the time. to not let your military experience get in the way of your life, get in the way of your families. I mean, it's always gonna be there, but, Accept it and kind of, I won't say compartmentalize it, but at least put it aside long enough so that you can focus on what's really most important, and that's your life, your family's life, your friend's life, and what you can do for the world, whether it's pick up a piece of trash on the street or go on a mission to South America, just focus. I always feel like if you can give something back somewhere, you get a lot more comes back to you than what you put out.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, Michael, we have a duty as human beings to work to pass on something better. And I take that seriously. And so you just mentioned it's picking up a piece of trash or just little things every day to pass on something good to the next generation. I really thank you for agreeing to do the interview. I felt like that when I initially asked you, you seemed just a little reticent.
SPEAKER 05 :
I was going to refuse. I think this is only like the second time I've really opened up very much about this. It's been a hit and miss with my family, hit and miss with some friends and things. But this has been good for me to actually talk about it in a little bit of a string. So instead of just being a piece here, a piece there, it kind of has put all my experience back together. told me how fortunate I am, I guess, one, to be an American citizen, but two, to still be alive after things have happened. And I embrace that life every day. I get up, I have a, I see the whole front range off my deck and I go out every morning with my coffee and just thank everybody for me, one, being able to still be here, but be able to experience that in Colorado and put a smile on my face and go to work.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, Michael Keller, thank you so much. And my friends, indeed, it is apparent that we stand on the shoulders of giants. So God bless you and God bless America.
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Thank you for listening to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure to tune in again next Sunday, 3 to 4 p.m. here on KLZ 560 and KLZ 100.7.
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Join us on this episode of Sportsman of Colorado as we delve into the fascinating world of gun collecting with Cindy Jewell from the Colorado Gun Collector Association. Cindy shares captivating stories about the evolution of gun shows and the collection's significance in preserving history. Discover how women are playing a pivotal role in this community and the diverse backgrounds of the association's members. Whether you're an enthusiast or just curious, this episode is sure to unveil the treasures and joys found in antique firearm collections.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Watley.
SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us today. Hey, we've got a great show in store for you. We're going to kick it off with our good friends from Colorado Gun Collector Association, and we are very proud to have Cindy Jewell in studio with us. So, Cindy, welcome to the show. How are you?
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm fine. How are you doing? It's good. I'm good. You know, it's neat to have a lady in and talking about guns. So it's kind of unusual, to be honest with you. So thanks for coming in and doing this.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. And it's not actually as unusual as you would think. In our club, we have quite a few women.
SPEAKER 06 :
collectors well good we're going to learn all about that today with cindy so let's just kind of talk a little bit about you at first a little bit about your background and what made you want to get involved with the gun collector association well currently i am the secretary treasurer of the club and probably about in the mid 90s i started attending the annual may show
SPEAKER 10 :
I was so overwhelmed and amazed at all the items. You looked up and there was tables and tables and guns and uniforms and swords and rifles. And I was just overwhelmed. So I had to come back again for a couple of years. There was everything from the large military arms to the typical shotguns, rifles, and handguns that we all know about today.
SPEAKER 06 :
So how you talk about the shows like that, and those happen in May, and we'll be pushing that real strong for you guys, you know, next year. But when you look at those first few shows to maybe last year's show, how have those changed over the years?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my gosh. They have changed so much. Our first show was in 1966, and it was held at the Jefferson County Fairgrounds. I think we had 140 tables then, and the admission was 50 cents to get in.
SPEAKER 06 :
50 cents.
SPEAKER 10 :
50 cents to get in. Wow. People just brought used guns and old guns. And today it's a collection of the antiques that we mostly focus on and that we all love dearly. The antiques that made our country what it is today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. That's so cool. And, man, back then, think about the freedoms of just probably people loading up guns in their trucks and coming in the front door with them. It wasn't a big deal.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. It wasn't. We went from Jefferson County to downtown Denver. Right. So imagine downtown Denver in today's climate pulling up to the Corrigan Hall or the Albany Hotel or the Hilton Hotel. We were at many of those hotels down there first. And like you said, pulling up in a truck, unloading things in the middle of downtown Denver.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow, that's awesome. All right, let's talk about the purpose. Now, Gun Collectors kind of tells us that, but what's kind of the mission or purpose? How would you describe that?
SPEAKER 10 :
The purpose of this organization is to establish in our state of Colorado a permanent organization for the promotion of friendship among and the mutual benefit of persons interested in the collection, preservation, and study of firearms and other accessories.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And man, that must bring you people from all walks of life, so to speak.
SPEAKER 10 :
It does. It really does. Early on, our club began with a group of guys just sharing stories and showing some particular guns that they had brought, some that they thought were really cool. And they decided, well, let's just start a club. So in 1966 is when our club was first started. Wow. And I'm proud to say that I knew five of the founding fathers.
SPEAKER 12 :
Really?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. And one of our founding fathers is still alive. He attends our meetings, and he's also active in our gun shows. So he's gone from gun show number one to gun show 58 so far.
SPEAKER 06 :
My goodness. Yes. Wow. So when people want to get involved, well, let's talk about it this way. Let's talk about the members and the growth that you've seen. And you mentioned a little diversity now. A lot of women involved in it, too. So kind of talk about the growth through the years.
SPEAKER 10 :
So our club is now a little less than 500 members. We're in 39 states, including Hawaii. We have two members that live in Hawaii. Our oldest member is a lady that's 100 years old, and our oldest gentleman is also 100. Wow. Our youngest member is 20. And we do have families that have several members of the family that is in the club. They attend regular meetings. They help with our gun show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. Now, how often do you have meetings?
SPEAKER 10 :
We have meetings once a month. in southeast Denver off of I-25. Our meetings are generally a presentation from one of our members that will talk about a particular gun or series of guns or a type of gun. And it's very educational. We have a lot of fun with it. Then we also have social time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Once again, Cindy Jewell is with us. We were talking about the Colorado Gun Collector Association. And, hey, if you're interested, you can check out their website. Just Google Colorado Gun Collector Association, and it will direct you to their website, and you can learn more about membership there. So do most of the members have, like, one era of firearms or swords or uniforms that they're interested in, or how does that work?
SPEAKER 10 :
Our members collect a large variety of items. They can range from military, American, British, German, turn of the century, or as special as Colts, Remington, Smith & Wessons, Winchesters. And depending on the collector, sometimes a collector wants to focus on only 1911s. So that's a model number. And They will explore and try to achieve as many of those 1911s as they can. They generally try to get the most pristine. Sometimes they will go for...
SPEAKER 06 :
That's okay. Sometimes they'll go for just certain types of models or different things that they like, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sometimes they will incorporate the handguns into the rifles and the shotguns. Sometimes they're only rifles. Sometimes they're only shotguns. Sometimes it's only military. For example... our big makers, Colt, Smith and Wesson, they also made military.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, right. And a lot of people probably don't know that. So you were mentioned before we came on air here, the the chase, you called it. And that's where certain collectors are looking for certain things to purchase for their collection. And it's fun for them to go figure out how to find that item and buy it, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, it's so much fun. One of our members told me that he saw the movie Winchester 73s.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah, Jimmy Stewart, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and he decided he wanted a Winchester 73. He wanted one of 1,000. So he looked and he searched. He went to a lot of pawn shops and smaller stores at that time. he finally acquired three of them that were one of a thousand he acquired a 32 caliber a 38 caliber and a 44 caliber and another one of our stories that I've heard is a member was at a gun show waiting to speak to the vendor there was a guy in front of him and he was My person was very much interested in a particular gun that was on the table. Well, the guy in front of him just happened to buy that gun when my buddy was standing behind him. So he says, well, I still want that gun. So it took him about 15 years chasing that gun, but he finally got it. Wow. And it just completed one part of his collection.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Yeah. So, you know, in being around you guys over these last few months, and you all were at the gun room over there when we did a live remote this summer. Yes. really want to get more people involved, but also young people, because that's important to keep this going, isn't it?
SPEAKER 10 :
It's very important. One thing that really stands out to me a lot that I've noticed in the last couple years is that our gun shows, the young people are coming in for the history. I met, through another connection of mine, a lady that says, oh, my son would love to see all of those. He's majoring in history and firearms. So he came down to our show and thought it was awesome. This past year we had a group of junior junior children come in, middle school children. Okay. And they came in and they toured our show and they were learning all about guns in school.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. Isn't that awesome? That'd be really neat.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think it'd be cool for like homeschool groups, you know, different things like that, where maybe the kids don't get to normally go get to do a lot of activities for something like that, for them to come in and see something like the gun collectors. Yeah. So what does Cindy like to collect?
SPEAKER 10 :
I like unusual things.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, your husband looked at me kind of weird when you just said that. You like unusual things. He's sitting over in the studio in the corner. What do you like?
SPEAKER 10 :
Early in my gun show travels, I saw what they call a palm pistol. And a palm pistol is a circular pistol. gun that sits in the palm of your hand with the trigger that comes out between the second and third finger it was just very different than anything that i had seen and the one that i happened to see that really caught my attention was pretty well worn and my husband said well we can find one that's better than that so again i got in on the chase because of its uniqueness. And it took me several years to find it, but I found one just a couple years at our show. And it was made in France in the late 1800s. And it's actually one of the first concealed carry guns.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. Well, that's cool.
SPEAKER 10 :
And it's very easy. You just hold it in the palm of your hand and
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Very easy to use. Yeah, it's amazing when you look at some of those. And if folks have ever been to the museum in Wyoming, Cody Fire Museum, which I highly recommend that. That is something to really see when you just look at the involvement of the different type of weapons through the years. I mean, it's amazing.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, several of our members have guns on display at the Cody Museum.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And also at the NRA Museum.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. Well, how special is that? Now, the other ladies, let's take that sector that are involved with what is some of them like to collect that you visit with?
SPEAKER 10 :
A lot of times the women are into the smaller guns. They're easier for us to handle, control, carry. Derringers are some of the types that they usually like. Or just the small, small caliber guns.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, right. Well, once again, it's the Colorado Gun Collector Association. Again, they have their big show in May every year. And that's up in Greeley, correct?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And we'll get you more information on that as the time comes. But I'm telling you what, if you've been thinking about it or maybe this is the first time you've heard them on the show and you didn't even know they were around, hey, check into their website there. Become a member. It's Colorado Gun Collector Association. And you guys are even doing some things here for the holidays, aren't you, for your group?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, we are. We just did a charity auction, and all the money that we made from that is going to go to youth shooting groups, generally the scouts, and then there's a couple of schools that have shooting teams. So we donate the money to them. We also will be having a Christmas party in December in place of our meeting.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Well, that always works. Oh, yes. Get to eat instead of have a meeting.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Anything we forgot you want to touch on? That's okay. Look through there. I want to make sure we get everything that we got for you. And once again, it's the Colorado Gun Collector Association. And, hey, it would be great. Dads and moms out there, get your kids involved in this. Just give them something to learn a little bit about history of guns would be a great thing. And it's not all guns. I mean, there's swords, all kinds of different things. Anything else you saw we need to hit?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I think I've shed a little bit of light on things.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, absolutely. You've done a wonderful job and we appreciate it. And thanks for all you do for them. And we'll look forward to getting you back on again.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. That's Cindy Jewell, Colorado Gun Collector Association. Once again, check them out. Just Google Colorado Gun Collector Association. You can learn more about them. If you've got any questions, of course, you can get in touch with us here at the station. You're listening to Sportsman of Colorado. We've got to take a quick break, and we'll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Again, thank you so much for joining us. Melissa Fling is with us. She is our doctor of audiology for our Haystack show and here for Sportsman of Colorado. And I'm telling you, I did a visit with her a week or so ago, and I got my hearing tested. And so before I get into that story, Melissa, welcome back. How are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
Thanks. Good. How are you?
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm good. I'm good. Now that I know there's a reason I can't hear. no but um you know went through her hearing test and um and then um got some things made you know for custom custom molds for some hearing protection but um you know we talked about this on our haystack show but um do you find most people have had hearing tests before when they come in to see or do you find some people even At my age, I'll say, they come in, this is the first time I've ever had this done.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I work with a lot of veterans, actually, and most of them, you know, if they've been out of the military for 30, 40 years.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they might have got tested when they went in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and they haven't been tested in 20, 30 years. No, I find it's a part of our health that seems to be ignored pretty regularly until you have a problem. Sure. And then even then, a lot of people don't necessarily know where to turn. A lot of people might not be aware of what an audiologist is, you know, that we're hearing and balance health care specialists. So, yeah, it's one of the things that doesn't get checked until there's a problem or until it's too late and forget about preventing noise-induced hearing loss. I mean, that goes for years without even having any awareness. So, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. You mentioned veterans. I can't imagine there's got to be some significant loss with some of the patients you see.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and all different ages, too. I think most people would think the older veterans, but it's not just them. I see veterans and service members that are in their 20s and 30s, and they've already got A pretty serious high-frequency hearing loss from noise exposure. And in that circumstance, especially with those that have served in combat zones, it's not feasible and it's not realistic to prioritize wearing hearing protection. You just can't. So they just have to deal with it. They just have to go with it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, we did this on our other show, H-TAC, but I wanted to kind of break down kind of what's involved in your earring test and your method. You mentioned on the other show there's maybe some places may go through orders different or do some different things, but let's talk about your test.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So, first, I always like to look in the ears, make sure there's no earwax, impaction, that the eardrums look healthy. In your case, they were clear, squeaky clean.
SPEAKER 06 :
You could see from one side through the other. That was the problem. You shined your light in there and there was a reflection on the wall.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, because that's a problem I can't help with. No, clean, clear ears, beautiful eardrums. Then we check eardrum function. So we did that pressure test on your ears that just makes sure that measures to make sure that the eardrum is vibrating normally. Then we put you in the booth and first had you listen to... some speech to see what the softest level of speech is that you can understand. Then we move into the tones, which is a measure of hearing sensitivity. And we're looking for the softest tones that you can hear from low pitch to high pitch. And, you know, everybody does their kind of order of tests in different order, depending on what they've learned and what their habits are. But I typically go from low pitch to high pitch. And we talked about this earlier, but the standard range for testing hearing is from 250 hertz to 8,000 hertz. And the reason that's standard is because based on research, That's where we think most speech sounds fall, in that frequency or pitch range. But we can actually hear up to 20,000 hertz. So if we only test up to 8,000 hertz, there's this whole chunk of our hearing that we're completely ignoring and not testing. And that's starting to become an area of interest in audiology. We're starting to pay more attention to that. And so for you, we tested that. We tested up to 18,000 hertz in both ears just to see what that looks like. And that's important for people that might show normal hearing at the standard range, but they come in with complaints of hearing loss or saying, I have to ask people to repeat themselves a lot. I can't understand in background noise. I'm turning the TV up and my family's complaining about it. Some of those people have normal hearing at the standard range, and then we go above 8,000 hertz. And some of them still have normal hearing, up to 18,000 hertz, but a lot of them don't. And so it's important to reveal that area, to see what's going on in that area. That's an important part of our hearing, too. It's there for a reason. Sure. So, yeah, so I've been testing that a lot in everybody, and we did that on you as well. Right, right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Do you see a significant difference between men over 60 and women over 60? I mean, do men seem to suffer more with hearing loss than women?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's a good question. I would say yes. Not maybe. OK, there could be two reasons. One, health could be. issue more so in in men maybe like heart problems maybe diabetes although I'd have to look at that to see if more men have diabetes than women I'm not sure about that one but heart just I'm thinking of all the meat eating and the artery clogging foods that men might lean towards eating more which can cause a problem with your hearing eventually but also noise men I think participate in more noisy activities than women would be my guess. So yeah, probably more noise-induced hearing loss in men than in women.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Now, you do some work with pilots, veterans, different things like that. So when you take the pilot industry, you would think, hey, they're in a plane. I mean, we've all been on planes. It's not that loud, you know, whatever. What causes that for them?
SPEAKER 07 :
It's noise for them too. It's pretty, it depends, you know, and I've been learning all about it from them, the different, the noisiest aircraft versus the quietest aircraft, you know, and between Boeing and Airbus. So up in the, well, they call it the flight deck or the cockpit, same thing. The noise comes from basically the air hitting the window, the friction of the air hitting the window. And depending on if it's an older aircraft or newer aircraft and kind of the aerodynamics of it, the wind might hit the windshield harder in an older or less aerodynamic aircraft, so it's louder. So it's really loud in the cockpit. And depending on what kind of communication stuff they have available to them in the cockpit, they might be okay not wearing... any hearing protection in there or they might need to wear hearing protection in there. But the issue is, are they going to be able to communicate with the co-pilot? So, you know, we kind of talked about earlier There can be, like with the captain who sits in the left seat, if he or she needs to hear the first officer in the right seat, they have to have their right ear open so that they can communicate with them. So sometimes they have more right-sided hearing loss and the first officer... uncovers their left ear to hear the captain, so they might have more left-sided hearing loss. But I think it's loud in planes, don't you? I mean, I always wear my earplugs on planes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and to be honest, I've got some Bose headsets, kind of like we're wearing here, that noise-canceling, that it will knock it out pretty quick.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they use that too, actually. A lot of them use the Bose ProFlight, which is an aviation headset, noise-canceling, so they can communicate with each other through that and use the active noise-canceling on it. But some of them can't use headsets on certain aircraft, so they just have their ears open or they just have their communication piece in one ear and the other ears open. So there's different situations. But, yeah, it's pretty loud. Most of them, and a lot of them are, you know, learned how to fly in the military. So they've got hearing loss from that, from, you know, years of that. So, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
What causes when we're flying? Just a random question here. See if I can stump the audiologist.
SPEAKER 11 :
Uh-oh.
SPEAKER 06 :
When our ears pop, so to speak, we use that term, I can't get my ears to pop. You see people, their jaws are trying to open, they're trying to chew gum or whatever. Is it just the air pressure that causes our ears to...
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, thank goodness I know the answer to this question. You haven't, you didn't stump me yet.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so yeah, there's, so yes, there is pressure in the middle ear. So in the ear, like when I look in your ear, I see the ear canal up to the eardrum. Beyond the eardrum, there's a space called the middle ear is what we call it. And that is connected to the eustachian tube. which is just a tube that connects the middle ear to the nasal cavity. So whenever your ears quote unquote pop, that's the eustachian tube on either side opening and equalizing pressure in the middle ear with atmospheric pressure. So like when you're driving to the mountains or a you're taking off in a plane, you might start to feel like your ears are getting plugged and that can also affect your hearing temporarily too. Like your hearing might be a little muffled and you know, you're trying, you're moving your jaw, trying to chew and get your ears to pop and you can't get it to pop. And then finally they pop and you get this relief. That's those eustachian tubes opening to equalize the pressure.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, your baby's screaming.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is that hard on babies? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Then it's hard on the past. Yeah. Never sit next to a baby. That's my rule in flying.
SPEAKER 07 :
Or make sure you have your custom-fitted ear molds.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, from Custom Ear Solutions.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right, for that. But, yeah, that probably is a big reason why they're crying, because their poor little baby ears are plugged, and they can't get them to unplug, and it can be a little painful if you can't get them to unplug. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, if you're just joining us, Melissa Fling is with us, Custom Ear Solutions. As I mentioned, I went and did the hearing test, and we both decided I need to wear consistently some custom-fitted, molded hearing protection for shooting and all. So there are a couple of scenarios with most people that are in the outdoors. We've got maybe a range where we're inside or out, whatever, but we don't need to talk to anybody. We just need to... take care of that. So talk about your solution there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So if you're doing, whether you're doing outdoor or indoor shooting, if you don't need to be able to communicate with anybody, you just need maximum protection, then I always just, if you want molds, I would just suggest solid ear molds. So no filtering for speech or gunshots. And one note that's important there is with outdoor shooting, Unless you're in some kind of enclosed, if you have something on the sides that's causing sound to echo.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and a lot of times they're kind of a cubicle, so to speak, where there is on each side of your gun, especially at an indoor range, one that I go to, you kind of step up and there's, of course, a flat top you can set your guns on or whatever. Yeah. But then there's a wall on each side of you. So, I mean, right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 06 :
You can't see me. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
And would that be with outdoor too? You would have a kind of a cubicle area?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, a lot of times outdoor. Sometimes there's some cubicle areas. Other times there's just some benches lined up where everybody's got their individual bench. A lot of times on pistol and different things like that, yeah, they've got a separation.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Okay. Yeah. So that becomes important because the sound can bounce off of the walls and make it louder. So with indoor shooting in particular, where the sounds bounce and all over the place, it's always suggested to wear double hearing protection. So earplugs and... Yeah. So solid, solid ear molds for maximum protection. No need to communicate or anything like that. Then if you do need to be able to communicate with people, if you're hunting and you need to be able to hear animal noise, brush noise, each other, Then I would suggest one of two options. The first one would be filtered ear molds. So those can have impulse filters in them, which is what we got for you. We got you both, solid and impulse. But you'll try your impulse ones on Wednesday.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I love the look of those. Yeah, yeah, I can't wait because we are going Wednesday. So, man, I can't wait because they're small, you know, but they're easy to put in, easy to take out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I love them. Yeah, so those are going to be good when you need to hear normally and communicate relatively normally. Then when a gunshot or any other impulse noise goes off, the filters in them will bring that down to a safer level. So you get the best of both worlds there. You can hear and communicate relatively normally, but then when you need the protection, you've got it. And you don't have to worry about putting something in your ears. It's already in and you're ready to go. Right. Yeah. The other option with that would be electronic. And that would be a good option if maybe you have a little bit of hearing loss also and you need something to amplify sounds a little bit. And you can get those in earmuffs also, but there's an option with custom fitted too. So that will allow, because there's microphones on it and you can adjust the volume, you can turn it up a little bit. So if you have a little bit of hearing loss and you need to turn the sound up, to be able to hear each other or whatever while you're hunting, those are a great option. They can be rechargeable, they can be Bluetooth capable, and coolest of all, they're custom fitted to your ears. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
We learned everybody is different in their size of ear hole, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I'd call it an ear canal. Ear hole sounds a little funny to me. That's what most people say, though, ear hole. Yeah, your ear hole or your ear canal is just as unique as your fingerprints, really. Everybody's ears are a different shape and size.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, are most people, if they're small or medium size, are they the same in both ears? Or do you have some where, like, maybe one side is a little bit smaller than the other?
SPEAKER 07 :
Mm-hmm. Yep, yep. Even between ears on the same person, one ear can be a little different than the other. One can be slightly more narrow, a little bigger, a little curvier than the other. Yeah, I see that all the time. Nobody's ears are completely symmetrical on the inside. Right, right. Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, it's Custom Ear Solutions. And hey, if you've got an HSA account, Melissa can help you there as well. But give her a call. Hey, this is a great idea to get it done this time of year. Everybody kind of thinks about getting healthy in January. But hey, let's take care of your hearing here in the month of December. All right. Her number is 720-839-7705. It's Custom Ear Solutions. And hey, you can get in for a hearing test. And again, And what does that run for folks?
SPEAKER 07 :
Hearing test is $125. Okay, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sheesh. What price can you put on your hearing?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and you can use your HSA or FSA for that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Just to figure out, get a baseline of where you're at. Monitor. Right. Yep. And then what do you suggest, you know, it's kind of like we deal with Stack Optical and they talk about getting your eyes tested. So how often, is that a yearly thing or every couple of years?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it can depend on kind of what you have going on. But yeah, I would say... The standard recommendation is every year. That might be overkill for some people if you're younger and or if you aren't around noise at all. So there's not anything really that's going to change your hearing when you're young and healthy. So in those cases, I might say more like every two to three years. sooner if you feel like something has changed. But yeah, for people that are regularly exposed to loud sound and or are 50 or older, I would say it's better for those people to get it checked every year, I would say. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
And, of course, our waterfowl season, man, you get in these – I'll have to show you what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, a goose pit where you're kind of underground, and you've got, you know, five or six buddies, seven buddies all dropped beside you shooting 12-gauge shotguns. You know, three-inch shells, I mean, really loud. And so, man, water fowlers out there, this is especially for you, too. All right, hey, you know what it's like to be in those pits and the shotgun's going off right beside you. So, hey, take care of your hearing. Highly recommend Melissa and Custom Air Solutions. And, hey, when you call, let her know you're here on Sportsman of Colorado or you're here on our Haystack show as well. We just... Mention you heard her on KLZ 560, and we'd appreciate that as well. So, Melissa, we thank you for your time. Thank you for hooking me up, and hopefully I'll be able to hear you throughout the year as we do these shows. So it'll be good. So thank you very much.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Again, thank you so much for joining us. Just a quick reminder now, if you miss our show on Saturdays, 1 to 2 p.m., you can catch us twice on Sundays. That's from 8 to 9 p.m. both on Sunday, 8 to 9 a.m., 8 to 9 p.m. Then also on Thursday, the following Thursday, we also have an encore presentation of the previous Saturday show here on Sportsman of Colorado Radio. So hopefully one of those four times will work out for you. But, hey, we're super excited to have a new friend, Steve Wells. Steve has just returned, and you heard Melanie on before with the Wild Alaskan Lodge. And Steve has just returned from being there with them. And so I asked him if he'd come on and tell us all about some Alaska fishing. So, Steve, welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thanks for having me. All right. So tell us a little bit about you, first of all, and your background, and then what led you to Alaska.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm an outdoorsman from southern Idaho. I grew up and have lived in southern Idaho my whole life. I spent a little time in the Marine Corps, so I've spent some time around the world, but I always come home. I'm an avid fisherman, hunter. I love to fish. I work on an ambulance service here in Burley, Idaho, and Jason, who built the lodge up there, was a police officer in the area, so I knew him. I had worked with him a lot.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
when he had mentioned he was building the lodge i i had caught wind of it was paying attention to what was happening and one of the paramedics that i worked with him and i discussed it called jason and we said hey we'd we'd like to be your first so we signed up just about a year ahead of time and got her all paid up and uh we just knew what we wanted to do we wanted to go up there and catch big fish so
SPEAKER 14 :
That's fantastic. So tell us a little bit about how you got from Idaho to where they are in Alaska.
SPEAKER 03 :
So we booked a flight out of Boise and flew into Seattle from there and then Seattle into Juneau.
SPEAKER 14 :
So a direct flight into Juneau from Seattle.
SPEAKER 03 :
Directly right into Juneau. Okay. We chose to fly in a little early so we could see some of the sights. Juneau is a fantastic town for that. Yeah. Beautiful town. State capital.
SPEAKER 14 :
Lots of stuff going on there.
SPEAKER 03 :
A lot of stuff going on. Friendly people. Everybody there was fantastic. We'd ask them questions. Everybody was fantastic about, these are the kind of jigs you want to use. This is what, just everything we asked, they were fantastic.
SPEAKER 14 :
Had you fished in Alaska before this trip?
SPEAKER 03 :
This is my first time to Alaska.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Self-guided. No, I was going to say self-guided. You are a fisherman. Yeah. Or crazy. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
The gentleman that I went web with, Jason Parkinson, a friend of mine, he fishes a lot out at Bui Tin and the mouth of the Columbia. Okay. Yeah. Takes his boat out there and trolls for salmon. And we fish for kokanee here in Idaho. And it turned out that fishing for kokanee is about the same as catching kings, other than kings are way bigger. Way bigger. Way bigger.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
They sent a ferry from Pelican, met us in Juneau. So we spent the night in Juneau and then got on the ferry the next afternoon. Yeah. It's a four-hour ride out to Pelican.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And how was the weather when you got there for the ferry ride? It was amazing. Was it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Sixty degrees, sunny.
SPEAKER 14 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 03 :
You could see whales everywhere you looked. There were whales breaching and surfacing and bald eagles everywhere.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's a very scenic ride.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
mountainous, a lot of islands and lighthouses, just beautiful.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Wow. So that part of the trip was just the beginning. You're like, wow, I'm sure if you hadn't been there before. Flying into Juneau, did you fly in late at night then or did you fly in during like day or night hours?
SPEAKER 03 :
I flew in fairly late in the evening, which, mind you, the days are long. Right. Sure. So it seemed like early in the day, but I believe I landed in about seven o'clock in the evening.
SPEAKER 14 :
OK, so you got to see some of the country flying in then, too. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. So then you have the four hour trip and the whale watching and all of that other stuff. Just, you know, it's kind of like a whale watching on the way. Exactly. Especially with the nice weather.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's just like when you go anywhere. I don't know if you've ever been to Australia. When you get to Australia, you're hoping, I hope I see a kangaroo. And then they're everywhere. And then they're just another kangaroo. I hoped I was going to see a whale in Alaska, and we were only about... So 40 minutes in and the captain says, oh, there's a whale there. I was surprised. They blow their spout up. Boy, you can see them a long ways away. They're large animals. Orcas. We saw the orcas. We saw the little river or the ocean otters, the sea otters. They were out there. There's a lot of wildlife to see if you're into that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. And things just kept getting better and better. As we went.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. So again, not everybody's schedule will be the same, but your schedule then got you there probably about what time to the lodge?
SPEAKER 03 :
That put us into the lodge. Let's see. They met us at 3.30, 4 o'clock in the afternoon. We got into the lodge.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
We actually stopped in Pelican, which is about a mile north of Jason's Lodge. And we stopped there. They had a local bar there and eatery. We actually ate dinner there that day and walked around the town. They showed us where the store was. There's a fish cannery and processing plant. So they walked us through all of that and then brought the boats over and we met our boats and took them from Pelican over to the Wild Alaskan launch.
SPEAKER 14 :
Got it. And you said that's about a mile run?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's about a mile, yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Got it. Wow. That's awesome. And so tell us about, for those folks that are thinking about the self-guided, let's just talk about the process of getting your own boat and what they do to sort of help you through that process.
SPEAKER 03 :
They walked us out and walked us through all of the amenities of the boat. There's Navionics. You've got the fish finder. You've got twin outriggers on the back, pole holders. Yeah. It's all set up for halibut and salmon fishing, so you can control or just sit. Okay. But they explained all the gear to us. It was all brand-new gear. Yeah. Brand-new boats and... They went through everything you had to go through. You had to know all of your, where the fire extinguishers were and where all the safety equipment was. Life preservers. They were very thorough.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very thorough on that. They are an enclosed cab boat, so it's a hard...
SPEAKER 14 :
cab and it turns out one one day there it was fairly rainy and it turns out that's a blessing yeah yeah no doubt enclosed boat is nice yeah you know the majority it just seems having been to alaska on a number of trips we've it seems you know you get good weather but most of the time you get sort of that drizzly foggy wet yeah just kind of damp cold weather is kind of what you have so that that's great to hear that that that makes a huge difference so that you can get out of the weather when you need to it was fantastic and how about any uh any bathroom facilities or what do they do for folks on the the boats they give you some they've got what we termed the squatty potties they got a little that's a little toilet that goes out with you nice sure okay
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, cool. Once again, if you're just joining us, we were talking about the Wild Alaskan Lodge. Hey, check them out on all their social media, Facebook, Instagram. They post some great pictures there. It's the wildalaskanlodge.com, and you can see all they do. And again, it's not that Alaska fishing is unique. But for us, self-guiding was unique when we met these folks at the Denver International Sportsman's Expo this last year. And it's just from everything we've heard, and that's why we're getting some people on to do testimonials. We're not able to go until next year, Steve. So, man, we're living through you guys here right now. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
The last summer we went to a lodge where we could take out boats in the evening, and we had one evening that we did that, and we did our own self-guided stuff, and we hooked a giant halibut. So that's part of the allure with this sort of self-guided is that you're not limited to sort of what the guides can do in Alaska and what fish you can keep because of being guided, and it makes a big difference.
SPEAKER 06 :
So what, and I don't know if you remember everything off the top of your head, but I mean, the guidelines and what Kevin's referred to, of course, is the guidelines. You know, if you're guided, you can keep one halibut a day and it's got to fit in a certain slot and all that. And there's just different limits. But that does change when you're self-guided.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, it does. You get more fish.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And what did you find? So we haven't even gotten to the lodge yet.
SPEAKER 03 :
We should get to the lodge, Scott.
SPEAKER 14 :
We should just let him get to the lodge.
SPEAKER 11 :
Our brains are all over. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you take the boat. You get the good. They talk with you about the boats. Boats are new. And you take them over to the lodge. So describe for folks what the lodge is like and what they can expect when they come.
SPEAKER 03 :
The lodge was chiseled onto a rocky little bank. That is literally just a work of art what they've done. And I got to walk around and look at the footings. They had to chisel into the rock, and that's got large stilts. They are sitting up probably 20 feet off the ground in the front. No kidding. And the back is right on the ground.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you must feel like you're right over the water then.
SPEAKER 03 :
You are right over the water. I could step out of my room and look straight down and see the moon jelly exploding by in the water. Wow, that's cool. Jeez. It's crystal clear water. It's a pristine place. It's untouched. It's just beautiful.
SPEAKER 06 :
And did you see much in the other rooms as far as type? So let's say, I would assume it's a great place for husband and wife to go and bring a couple of kids or a few buddies come. I don't.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know if, I mean, if I was to go up there again, I would probably take my wife just so she could experience Alaska.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
She gets seasick very easily.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mine too, mine too. Maybe we can go together and your wife can hang out with my wife because she's the same way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Fantastic, because they've got, in the kitchen of the lodge, they've got some beautiful tables, windows overlooking the ocean right there. The view is just breathtaking. It's high mountains all around you. It's green. It's gorgeous. It would be a good spot to hang out. Not a lot to do. Pelican has a few things to do. So you could go into Pelican. Like I said, they've got a little store and a bar and a few hangouts.
SPEAKER 06 :
But it's remote, isn't it? It's what you would term remote Alaska. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
very remote yeah and it's yeah and from what it sounds like it's a fishing lodge it is a fishing lodge yes that's it's it's a lodge set up strictly for fishing and uh and it's you know you don't want to go there expecting the king size bed with all the fluffy pillows and whatnot it's it's uh I mean, fantastic bed. I slept wonderful. But it's designed for you to come home and sleep because you're fishing all day.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, so let's talk about that. Let's talk about the meat of the issue, which is the fishing. So describe your days that you're there. Breakfast in the morning that starts, I'm assuming, pretty early and then get out on the boats?
SPEAKER 03 :
At 5 o'clock, we would meet them. They had breakfast ready, and our coolers were filled with, cold lunches, everything set up, chips, snacks, anything you want, waters, everything you want. Bake coolers were set out. We had to do nothing. We were spoiled rotten up there. That's awesome. You gather up your coolers, you put them in the boat, and then we had discussed, Jason cannot tell you where to go. That's part of the biggest thing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
He did tell us that, okay, the The salmon are going to be hanging offshore in the open ocean, and the halibut, as the tide changes, you want to put a chum bag down, and that'll take the smell of your chum bag out, and it'll bring these halibut in. They like to come up on top of a plateau to eat, and we've been told by that by several people. So we thought, well, we'll go out and we'll target the kings first because we were told the bite was a little hard.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think in... oh an hour and a half we within 30 minutes we had our first fish on board oh man but in an hour and a half we had doubled up a couple times and put a smaller one back we caught some that were too small but very quickly we had our salmon that's awesome and so then we were able to target the rockfish and lingcod and halibut and uh Just by going off what they had said, we found a spot that turned out to be, we went there every day for halibut, and it was kind of in a valley that dropped off into a deep hole, and as the tide would start going out, you'd put that chum bag down there, and those halibut would come up, and boy, it was fantastic. kick in the pants that's awesome well good steven anything else do you think be good information for our listeners to know uh well one thing um i don't get i do not get motion or seasick and jason does not get motion or seasick but his wife does uh we did have the scopolamine patches for her that you put behind your ear okay Worked fantastic the first few days. You have to change them out every three days, though. And she forgot to change hers out. Do not forget to change out.
SPEAKER 06 :
You won't forget but once, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
I've never seen somebody puke that hard. Oh, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and that's a bad. That's the worst.
SPEAKER 03 :
It ruined the day for her.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Okay. Well, Bud, we appreciate it so much. When did you get your license? Before you arrived or did you get it at the lodge?
SPEAKER 03 :
I bought mine the night before at Sportsman's there in Juneau. Sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, cool.
SPEAKER 03 :
You have to get a salmon card and your license. Right, right. And I think for both of them I was in about $85. Yep, yep. Sounds good, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, bud, we appreciate you taking time with us. And like I say, we'll stay in touch for sure. And, yeah, we need to get up Idaho and do some stuff with you maybe. So I'll stay in touch. Perfect. And I know Melanie and Jason appreciate you coming on and doing this as well. So thank you very much.
SPEAKER 03 :
They were a fantastic host. It was a trip of a lifetime.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, bud. Thanks so much, Stephen. We appreciate it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you. Have a good day.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. You as well. That's Steve Wells, once again, a recent guest at the Wild Alaskan Lodge. We've met these folks. We haven't been there yet. We are booked for next year. Our schedules just didn't allow Kevin and I to go this year, but we are going next year. But we're going to be having some folks over these next few weeks go. Now, real quick, and I'm kind of working on some things with them. We might figure out a little. A couple hundred bucks off a package. I don't want to commit to anything yet. But, Kevin, it's $4,300. Yeah. And I tell you, we've done several of these. You've done more places across the country. That's a great deal. From everybody I've talked to already in this that was coming on the show, Their testimonials were just like Steve's.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. You know, the interesting thing, and it's fun to talk to these folks. So Steve didn't have a whole lot of experience maybe doing this sort of fishing. I mean, a little bit, but his buddy did. You're going to need somebody that has some experience having been to Alaska, understand, I mean, from the safety standpoint, and then just an idea of what are we looking for. What he said about doing some research relating the night before, looking at the Navionics and looking at the structure. You've got to know some people that know what they're doing. And that's part of the fun, though, of the self-guided trip. Because I love going on these trips and being guided. I mean, they're wonderful. And it's fantastic. And the last one that we went on last summer, just really good time. But there is some downside to it. You go out later. You know, in the day, and you have to come back earlier, the requirements relating to what fish you can keep and what you can do during the day is somewhat limited because you're normally with a bunch of people. You're going to have your own boat. You're going to go out.
SPEAKER 06 :
If you're halibut fishing and you've got six people on the boat and a couple of your buddies have caught yours and you're waiting on four other people to catch theirs, two more hours goes by and we could have been doing something else. Right, exactly. It gives you a little more freedom.
SPEAKER 14 :
It does, and it's to do it on your own. I think there's some real satisfaction in that, and it sounds like the facilities are new and just fantastic. So I'm really excited about it. I'm excited to talk to more people about it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. Quick reminder now, if you miss our live show on Saturdays 1 to 2, catch us twice on Sundays. That's 8 to 9 a.m. and once again 7 to 8 p.m. on Sunday evening. And we thank you for being with us. Hope you have a great rest of your day and a great rest of your weekend.
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God's Word must be the number one priority in your life. LAG: Learn God’s Word. Apply God’s Word. Glorify Jesus Christ to the maximum. “If you want to brag about something, brag that you understand Me and you know Me” (Jer 9:24). You must have the spiritual capacity for God to bless you—He won’t give what you can’t handle. “Humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God so that He may exalt you in due time” (1 Pet 5:6-7). You must trust God and turn your life over to Him at some point. “Not My will but Thy will be done” (Luke 22:42).
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Times Doesn’t Shout - Part 3
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 604 aired on April 2, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes stay with me for a time of motivation, some inspiration, a lot of education, and we do all
of this without any type of manipulation. Our objective is to give you information that will help
you verify and identify God's plan for your life. If you can do this, fantastic, then you can orient
and adjust to the plan. Here on The FLOT Line we deal with 10 unique problem-solving devices
that God gave us in eternity past that can act as your main line of resistance. How we can
withstand the outside sources of adversity before they become the inside source of stress. That's
why we say adversity is inevitable, stress is optional. By using these 10 unique problem-solving
devices called the FLOT line, you can stop these outside sources from becoming stress in your
life. Remember problem-solving device #1, rebound. When we sin, how do we deal with this?
We solve it by doing what 1 John 1:9 say,
“If we confess our sin, then God is faithful and just to
forgive us.”
This is our first problem-solving device. The second problem-solving device is how
do we deal with our genetically formed sin nature that we got from Adam. The answer is, we
walk under the power of God the Holy Spirit.
“Walk in the Spirit and you won’t fulfill the lust of
the flesh”
(Galations 5:16) Paul wrote. Then we have the faith-rest drill, problem-solving device
#3, standing on the promises of God. As Moses told the Jews in the Exodus when Pharaoh was
hot on their heels,
“Stand still and watch God deliver you today”
(Exodus 14:13). These first
three are phenomenal problem-solving devices not even counting doctrinal orientation, grace
orientation, having a personal sense of destiny, personal love for God, impersonal love for others,
sharing the happiness of Christ, and occupation with Christ. These are all essential for the
believer if he's going to grow, if he's going to glorify God as you go through your time on this sin
infested planet. I started a study two weeks ago with you to highlight some attitudes that you
must have, some things that are critical for you. I wanted to go over them with you and hopefully
review some of them with you today. The Bible talks about our time on earth and it uses two
different words. One word in the Bible translated time is
chronos,
we get chronology from this,
or chronograph. Then we have another word pronounced
kairos
and this is not about a specific
time, not like 6:04 PM, it’s more about time as an event at a certain time. When 2 Corinthians 6:2
says,
“Behold, now is the accepted time. Now is the day of salvation,”
time, the word
kairos,
it’s
not a specific time, it’s not 10:05 PM you're suppose to accept Christ. As we go through and look
at these things, think about how you use time. The first thing we saw was you have to be
punctual. Punctuality is critical for you. Without punctuality then you're never going to have
much of an impact in the devil’s world. We did quite a bit of study on this and then we went into
patience. That is where we left you last week, talking about patience, how it's critical for the
believer in the Lord Jesus Christ to have patience in his life. The reason is because patient people
will wait on God's timing. Impatient people, they won't do this. They'll leap to their own
destruction. I quoted you a verse last week a verse in Numbers 14:42. Here, after the Jews had
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decided they could not take the Promised Land, after the twelve spies had gone in and ten came
out and said, “No way, we can't do it, there are giants in there,” and then Joshua and Caleb said,
“Oh yes we can,” they were overruled. Once they heard the discipline that would come upon
them because of this, once they heard that they would all die in the wilderness until their children
had grown up and the children would take the land, they decided to rectify things with God. They
decided they would go ahead and enter the land when God said, “No, you're not going to take it.
You've turned away and I'm not going to be with you.” This is what Moses told them. He said in
talking about impatient people,
“Don't go up there lest you be defeated by your enemies because
the Lord's not with you. For the Amalekites and the Canaanites are there before you, they'll kill
you by the sword because you turned away from the Lord and as a result of that the Lord will not
go with you.
[Now listen to what it says]
They presumed to go up to the mountain but the ark of
the covenant, nor Moses went with them,”
and they were utterly destroyed
.
(Numbers 14:42-44).
This was right after they rejected the offer to take the land at the right time. God always has a
right time and a wrong time. The right time was when He told them to do it. This is not the right
time. This is them impetuously deciding on their own that they're going to do it and now it's the
wrong time. Once this discipline had been pronounced, they had a change of heart. The
discipline was in Numbers 14:29 but the change of heart was a little bit too late. God has perfect
timing for you. There are things in your life that you must fulfill at the right time, doing the right
thing. This is why the protocol plan of God is important. Protocol means a right thing has to be
done in a right way. We learn that faithful people act on time and unfaithful people lose time.
Listen to Psalm 102:3.
“My days vanish like the smoke and my bones burn like glowing embers.”
This is reviewing. In Psalm 102:23,
“In the course of my life He broke my strength and He cut
short my days.”
In Psalm 89:45,
“You've cut short the days of his youth and You've covered him
with a mantle of shame.”
Then in Proverbs 3:1-2,
“My son, do not forget my teaching but let
your heart keep my mandates; for length of days, and a long life, and peace they will add to
you.”
The principle is you can shorten your life by getting out of the plan of God, getting
out of the will of God, going down the My Way Highway, and doing something impetuously
stupid.
You may have done this already. But if you're alive, if the dust clears, the smoke settles,
and you're still alive, God still has a plan for your life. He hasn’t thrown you under the bus. But
you may be under some divine discipline and you may have to wait out this discipline until you
get where you can exercise God's plan for your life. God has a plan for you and this plan
revolves around the right time, doing the right thing, and you being patient. Now, another trait
that mature believers must have is priority. This means that they're willing to fulfill God's plan
for their life and it requires the right priority if you're going to do this. If you want to fulfill God's
plan for your life, you must prioritize things like, “Did you look at your watch this morning?” I
mean, you looked at your cell phone, you got your priorities right. Maybe, if you’re going to
church later today, someone's going to demand that you be there on time and meet them at the
restaurant after, whatever. We all have priorities, everybody, and we give a little small segment of
our time to our Lord, most of us on Sunday mornings, to learn about Him, to grow, to understand
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His plan. I want you to know that it takes more than just on Sunday morning. Just Sunday
morning worship, you're never going to grow to be a spiritually mature believer if this is all you
do. This is like eating one meal a week, you’re going to starve to death.
1 Peter 3:18 tells us
here's the first priority you must have, “
Grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord
and Savior Jesus Christ.”
The reason I say it's a priority is because the Greek verb grow is an
imperative mood verb. This means this is a command from God. This is not a request. You are
commanded by God to grow as a Christian. You cannot grow going to church just on Sunday
morning. Most of the time you are going to go through the mechanics of the worship service, the
songs, the announcements, the yada yada yada yada, and if the preacher really gets to teach the
Bible, if he gets to do 30 minutes he’s lucky. Most of the churches I've spoken in on Sunday
morning, I don't even get 30 minutes because of all the other rituals on the program. If you want
to grow, it’s going to take more than 30 minutes a week. You say, “Well, I go on Sunday night
too.” So you get an hour a week. If you went to the first grade and you went for an hour a week,
would you ever get out the first grade? The answer is no. Another thing to prioritize is 2 Timothy
2:15,
“Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the Word of truth.”
Study is another imperative verb, not a request, a mandate.
We’ve had two, grow and study. You can't grow if you don't study. What do you study? You
study what the pastor teaches you. You should have a well-qualified pastor that can teach you
God's Word and you listen, you learn, and you apply. You learn what he teaches you. You write
the notes down. You go over your notes and you apply it into your life. You’re not going to do
this just on 30 minutes on Sunday morning. I recommend to you that you have a routine of
studying every day. I am not talking about a daily devotion. I'm not talking about a ten minute
devotion in the morning. I'm talking about sitting down under a pastor every day, letting him feed
you, and teach you the Word of God. You say, “Who does this?” A lot of men and if you don't
know where, contact me. I'll pass the information on to you where you can order their DVDs or
their MP3s, and you can sit in your home with your Bible, a cup of coffee, study and write notes,
and learn right there and that will be a great supplement. I mean, don't people take supplements?
They have meals and they take supplements. This is a supplement for you, a way to grow.
Matthew 11:29,
“Take My yoke upon you and learn of Me,”
another mandate. Study, grow, learn,
this is not a request. It's a mandate from the Lord Jesus Christ. What is the number one priority if
we’re talking about prioritizing things? What's the number one priority in your life besides your
health? Let me give you some principles.
Trouble will come to any Christian who doesn't
make God's Word the number one priority in his life.
I remember my wonderful pastor once
said this, “You’re living on borrowed time every time you are not utilizing, not learning, or not
making the Word of God your number one priority in life.”
Also remember that people
emphasis must never take priority over God emphasis.
In other words, which ones are most
important, God's Word or what your friends want you to do? You have to make sacrifices. You
have to have a routine. You have to say, “I can't do that, I’ve got to do this. I can do that later.” If
you don't set priority, if you don't set routines, Satan will lure you away from studying the Word
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of God. He won't let you study the Word of God because he doesn't want you being dangerous.
He likes you being a nobody where you don't know anything and you can’t have an impact. If he
can keep you like this, that’s what he wants. When you start studying God's Word under a well-
qualified pastor and you start growing to spiritual maturity, he is going to take note of this and
you're going to become dangerous because you can begin to replicate the life of Christ. You can
begin to re-present Jesus Christ, that’s the last thing the devil wants. Making the Word of God
priority in your life says nothing comes before learning and applying the Word of God in your
life. You see, you learn by education and you learn by experience. You hear it, you believe it, you
use it, and then it's part of you, it becomes that way. The Word of God you learn, the Word of
God you understand, is the Word of God you experience when you're in pressure. The experience
is as much a learning part as the hearing is.
No one can have a personal sense of destiny in
their life if they don't have the priorities right.
God wants you to have a sense of destiny.
That’s your problem-solving device #6, a personal sense of destiny. If you don't have your
priorities right, you're never going to get this right. People ruin their lives. This is another good
principle I want you to hear. Ruined lives are the results of wrong priorities. Satan will
manufacture distractions to eliminate you being an effective witness in the angelic conflict. If
you don't think he will, you wait until you start wanting to grow. You wait until you start trying
study. You wait until you make it a principle that you say, “All right, I’m going to sit down every
day. I’m going to get the tapes, I’m going to get the DVDs, I’m going to listen, I’m going to
learn, I’m going to apply it,” you watch what happens. You won't believe the attack you come
under. Everything will be designed to shut you down and not let you ever become a spiritually
mature believer. You have to. Like what Paul said in 2 Timothy 4:7, you must be able to say this
when your time is up on this earth. He said,
“I fought an honorable fight,
[I advanced to spiritual
maturity is what he’s saying]
I've completed my course,
[in other words I executed God's
protocol plan in my life]
I have guarded the doctrine,”
this is his number one priority. Not to let
it be twisted, not to let it be convoluted, not to let it be distorted but to teach the simple truth of
faith alone in Christ alone and not salvation by works, not spirituality by works, salvation by
grace, spirituality by grace. How are you saved? Through faith alone in Christ alone. How do
you live the Christian life? By allowing God's Holy Spirit to control your life and manifest His
presence in your life with what's called the fruit of the Spirit and you grow, you understand, and
you replicate Christ. Here are some principles in regard to priority one.
It takes time to learn
God's Word.
There is no such thing as an overnight, weekend sensation. If you don't set aside
time for the Word of God in your life, you will never fulfill the destiny He has for you. All this
birdseed, garbage stuff about living your dreams, you can do it, and work hard and succeed at
your dreams and you'll be happy, that is a lie from the devil himself. Listen, you could not even
imagine what God has for you. What He has for you is so much higher than what you would
have for yourself. What He would like to give you is much greater than what you would want to
get for yourself.
Don't follow your dreams, follow God's dreams.
Jeremiah talks about it,
“
If
you want to brag about something you brag you understand Me and you know Me”
(Jeremiah
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9:24).
He didn't send those people to talk about getting their dreams. God sent men, prophets,
pastors, evangelist to talk about His Word not about you following some dream. Yeah, you want
to be an actor. Yeah, you want to be a celebrity. Yeah, you want to be a pro athlete and you get it.
You earn your way there and you’re miserable, you're not happy. Oh, but you’re making a lot of
money and you're just distraught, you’re destroying your life. You followed your dream okay but
it wasn't what you thought.
Listen, God's plan for you with His personal sense of destiny is
much greater than any dream you would ever have but if you don't learn His Word, if you
don't make an effort, you will never get it, you'll never understand it.
I mean come on, think
about this. If you don't have time for God, why would you expect God has time for you? Oh, I
know, you want Him to do your bidding at the time you desire, maybe not the time He
designates. “Let me have it now God.” I can tell you this.
God won't give where there's no
capacity and if you don't have spiritual capacity to handle something, He’s not going to
pour it out on you.
The key for you and me to operate under God's timetable is found in one key
passage of Scripture. If we don't do this, we will never figure it out.
1 Peter 5:6-7,
“Humble
yourselves under the mighty hand of God so that He may exalt you in due time,
casting all
your cares on Him because He cares for you.”
Well, humble is the Greek word
tapeinoo
.
Remember I said it's an imperative mood in those other verbs, this one is too. This is a command,
this is not a request, it's a command for you to have a humility profile which means you respond
to authority. You're not arrogant, you respond, you don't react. If the Lord tells you to do
something, “Yes sir, I'll do it.” It’s humility and it's a wonderful thing to have, not trying to
arrogantly go around authority, not trying to arrogantly defy authority, but obeying the authority
of the police officer, of the principal, of the teacher, of your parents even if you might not like it.
If you want to learn what this is about, join the military. Find out what authority is about and
things you may have to do that you don't like. There have been a lot of wonderful soldiers, men
and women, who died doing things they didn’t like just so you could be free, to do what you
want to do. Do you want to humble yourself? Develop this humility profile, it starts with
authority orientation. Then this says in verse 7,
“Casting all your cares.”
The Greek word
epiripto
is the active voice verb and it means this. You have to make a decision at some time in
your life. Sometime in your life you must decide, “Am I going to let Him run the show or will I
keep running the show?” Well, how's this working out for you? How are you doing with it?
Married and divorced a few times? In prison, in jail? Recovering from a lot of horrible mistakes,
not working too good? Listen, are you alive? “Yeah.” It's not too late.
It's never too late to
orient and adjust to God's plan. In spite of any mistake I have made in my life in the past,
His grace has always helped me recover.
His grace has always helped me get back to my feet
and keep moving, not lay down, not feel sorry for myself, not have a pity party, get up and keep
moving. He always forgives. He always restores and He will do it for you if you’ll let Him.
Here’s some first principles in the issue of timing.
You must at some point of time in your life
turn the reins over to Him. You have to trust God to do what He wants to do in your life,
not what you want to do. Listen to what the Lord Jesus Christ said in Luke 22:42,
“Not My will
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but Thy will be done.”
What about you? Could you say this? I’ve seen a lot of people that could
not say this because they didn't have the attitude of humility. They could not orient to the
authority of God's Word. They had no meekness of personality. Humility is simply orientation to
the Word of God, not being some weak shouldered, wimpy person. It's orienting to the authority
of the Word of God. Without this, you'll never be able to surrender control of your life or your
destiny by using the faith-rest drill. This is the process of surrendering, using the faith-rest drill.
You can't have God's plan fulfilled without this. You’ve got one priority every day and this is for
you to grow and this can't be done if you don't study. You can't learn if you don't study. To grow
you have to study, learn, and apply.
I use LAG to remember it: learn, apply, glorify.
The Word
of God has to be cycled. You have to take it from where it becomes
gnosis
or information, to the
Greek word
epignosis
or full information, full knowledge. Once you take the Word of God you
learned and you apply it into your life, it becomes wisdom. You use it in the experience, but the
priority that's required for this is self-discipline. Without self-discipline, you will never grow
because you'll never be able to put this, studying God's Word, priority number one. We all have
got to have priorities. My priority is getting the information my pastor teaches me and to apply it
in my life every day. What’s your priority? Your pastor can give you the knowledge but only you
and God the Holy Spirit can apply the knowledge.
Application of this means that you are
prioritizing God's Word as a standard of living in your life.
You want to hear something
really amazing? In the Bible there is something called word. The Lord Jesus Christ is called the
Word.
“In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was
God”
(John 1:1). Jesus Christ is the
Logos,
the Word, but there's another translation for word and
it’s called
rhema
.
The difference in these two is that
rhema
traditionally is the written Word
and the
logos
is the living Word. Here's the most unique thing you'll ever hear, God’s desire
is to take the
rhema
inside of you and transform you into the
logos,
to transform you into a
Christ-like replica.
Listen to Galatians 2:20 and see if you can figure this out.
“I have been
crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.
[Do you hear that? The
rhema
has become the
logos
]
The life I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God who
loved me and gave Himself for me.”
You’ve got one objective in time. Grow up, become a
spiritually mature person, and on top of this, to replicate the life of Christ, to be occupied with
Him. This includes personal love for Him, which is your motivational virtue and impersonal love
for others, which is your functional virtue. If you're occupied with Christ, thinking like Christ,
responding to the authority of the Word of God, replicating the life of Christ, you're on your way
to being a winner believer. You're on your way to having the graduation ceremony. When you get
to heaven you'll hear Him say,
“Well done My good and My faithful servant”
(Matthew 25:21).
This is all God is looking for, a faithful servant. I hope you're learning. I enjoy giving it to you.
Until next week, this is your host Rick Hughes saying thank you so much for listening to The
FLOT Line
This episode of Drive Radio kicks off with a fun automotive trivia question that dives deep into ignition timing and engine history, followed by a discussion about wraps, maintenance tips, and common issues with specific vehicle models. The hosts also cover heavy-duty truck recalls, dealership services, and essential maintenance habits to extend the life of your vehicle. With expert advice on everything from engine performance to windshield tinting, this episode is a goldmine for car enthusiasts and everyday drivers alike.
Listeners can also tune in for a review of the 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road Edition, with insights into its performance, features, and redesign for the Colorado lifestyle. Plus, helpful advice on trading in vehicles and keeping interiors in top-notch condition.
SPEAKER 20 :
Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four barrel carburetor?
SPEAKER 13 :
It is a trick question. Watch this. A Chevy didn't make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn't come out till 62. And it wasn't offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Calls, give us a call. I should say lines are open, 303-477-5600. If you're just joining us here at 11 o'clock, Josh Goff with us from Legacy Automotive up in Boulder along with Ridgeline Auto Brokers. Actually, Boulder and Longmont. And Fort Collins. And Fort Collins. I forgot to say that. So we've actually got a Longmont location now in between. For those of you up north, we can service your vehicle. And then the sales part of it, it's Boulder and Fort Collins. Saying that right? That's correct. And then Roy and Dietze both from ProTech Auto Shield over in Wheat Ridge, which they do everything from... Paint correction, detailing, paint protection film, of course, like I just said, window tinting, wrapping, which we were talking about even kind of off air there for a moment. You guys were talking about that as we closed out the last hour. On average, and I know this is a loaded question because there's different quality of all of the things even we just talked about, from window tint to PPF to wrapping, on average, how long should a good wrap last?
SPEAKER 23 :
Uh, there's a lot that goes into it depending on the brand and everything, but you're looking from like six months to three, four years.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So that's about what Josh, you were saying. Yeah. Pretty close to that. It seems to be that. Okay. Okay. Any, um, So a question on the wraps, Josh, knowing what you just said, to me that would be more of a I just hate the color of the card, I'm going to wrap it to get the color I want, or I'm doing some advertising for my business or something along those lines. But otherwise, there's no cost-benefit to wrapping.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not that I can see.
SPEAKER 04 :
Am I correct in saying that? Yeah. Because if you're trading it off, they may take it right off.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think everybody takes it right off.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because they want to see what's underneath.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we want to know what's underneath. Because that could be a liability for us, what they hide, you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
Gotcha. Okay. And I got an update, by the way, a moment ago. So Steve, hang tight really quick. This is on the transmission question we were talking to Donato about earlier. This is something that works at GMC. And I won't give his name away or where he's at. But thank you, by the way, for this text message. There isn't a fix for the recall yet. It's only a software update that puts the truck into limp mode. It's supposed to put the truck into limp mode 10,000 miles before it thinks the truck would lock up. Once it goes into limp mode, they'll do a physical repair. It's a joke. Yeah, thank you. It is. We're all quite disappointed in General Motors and their response. There are many loyal GM customers around here with 100,000-mile trucks that are out of service with no ETA on parts. Um, he knows that I hate Ford and Ram, but right now GM can't get their crap together any better. You know, I can't argue that. So thank you. And, and really quick, my biggest disappointment on the Ram side is similar situation here. Difference in the Ram side versus the GM side. At least GM is acknowledging this and they know they've got to get a fix done. And yes, I know it's taking them a while, but at least give, uh, GM, some kudos for admitting it's a problem and they're going to take care of it. My issue with Ram is they know they have known problems with emission stuff, with injectors, with injector pumps, and they'll blame it on everything under the sun except for the real problem. They'll tell you the fuel's contaminated. They'll tell you this. They'll tell you that. Oh, you put DPF. It accidentally got spilled into the tank. They'll come up with every excuse under the sun to not warranty those trucks. And a lot of that's not the dealer itself. It's coming from Ram directly. And by the way, folks, it's why you can go to most Ram lots around the country, I'm not exaggerating, and see a plethora. of trucks sitting on the lot, and I am not exaggerating, because everybody in the industry, myself included, fleet buyers and so on, knows exactly what I just said. And Ram, until you get your crap together on warranties, you're not going to sell trucks. You might sell it to the guy that has no other choice, and you'll sell it that way, or that loyalist that's just going to work with you. They've also got on the 6.7 some roller lifter issues as well. So there's some known problems on the Ram side that they will not stand behind, and because of that, their sales are being affected. Ram, you know, Stellantis sales in general are in the tank. That company's liable to get bought by somebody else or they're not going to make it, much like Nissan Infiniti, which maybe I can talk about a little bit through the show today. But reality is Ram is not stepping up. And because of that, Stellantis is not stepping up to the pump on these warranties. And in turn, it's costing them a ton in sales. Now, I will say this. If you're looking to go buy a new truck and you want to get one that's 15 to 20K off sticker, Go buy one, because they're out there. I'm not saying they're giving these things away, but they are discounting them heavily because of what I just said a moment ago, because they're not selling trucks because of that. So thank you, though, for the update on the GM side. Now, I also, and I'd like... If you want to text me back and let me know your thoughts on my thoughts on doing service intervals much sooner than what the OEM is requiring, I think that is a solid fix even for this software update to where I don't think most people would have some of the issues that they're having if they'd service these transmissions on a more routine basis, which, no, the OEM is not telling them to do because they're looking at a total cost of ownership saying you can go 100K plus before you service a transmission. That's also not true.
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Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
My two cents on that whole thing. Now, somebody also wanted me to comment on the 10-speed, quote-unquote, Allison side of it on the heavy-duty trucks because they're having some of the same issues. Same thing applies. Now, one thing I need to make note of, though, is that's not an Allison transmission. It's an Allison-branded transmission, 22 and up, on the heavy duties that have a 10-speed. They'll say it's an Allison. They'll even say that on the window sticker. It's not. It is not an Allison manufactured transmission. That was a conglomeration between Ford and GM. It was a dual thing they did on that 10-speed. It's got Allison's quote-unquote stamp of approval, but it is not made by Allison, because no offense, if it was, you wouldn't be having these issues. Because we didn't on the old ones. So if you want to go buy an Allison transmission, you've got to buy a 21 or older truck to get that Allison on a Duramax. Otherwise, it is an Allison-branded 10-speed. It is not an Allison transmission. Steven Monument, you're next.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I got an 03 Toyota Tacoma, $337,000 on the clock. Nice. I had filled it up with a gas can, you know, the one that has the push button, the ignition protection, whatnot. Shortly after doing that, I would go to the regular gas pump, try to fill up. It would get about a quarter of a gallon in and shut the fuel pump off. It takes about 20 minutes to fill the tank up. Is that part of the fill, or is that part of the charcoal canister process? You know, it's part of the fill tube, or I've heard of charcoal canister issues as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
It could be both. So where you fill out, there's actually a vent that comes up there too. So there's a main tube that you put the gas down, and then there's a vent that comes up at the same spot to help vent the tank. Because, you know, you push the fuel in, we've got to let the air out. So sometimes it's the outflow, what we call the outflow valve on the charcoal canister. So that needs to open to let the tank fill. Or, you know, since it happened when you filled this, did something get dropped in the tank or anything like that at that time?
SPEAKER 09 :
Not that I know of, but anything can happen.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. I would still take it to somebody and make sure that, you know, the vent valve, as we call it, is opening on the charcoal canister to see if it's flowing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Much appreciated because I was getting ready to just replace the fill valve or the fill pipe. and see if that changes it. It's a $70 part. Right. I've got 21 years on the thing. Plastic doesn't hold up.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it doesn't. But usually what I've found is since it is an 03, you still would have what we call an EVAP system code, so a tank leak on those. They usually rot apart before they clog up, especially the Toyotas, and they do rot apart quite often.
SPEAKER 09 :
Knock on wood, haven't seen it yet. Right. There we go. Okay, much appreciated. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Matt. No, thank you very much, Steve. I appreciate it. Okay, let's do this. We'll take a quick break. We'll come back. I've got more things to talk about, more questions that have come in on the whole 10-speed end of things with the HDs and the light-duty trucks. So I'll kind of recap some of that because there's been more questions that have come in via the text line on that. We'll do that as soon as we come back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560, thanks for joining us. Okay, just to recap, and a lot of you have texted in on the whole 10-speed thing, which it's a light-duty truck issue on the GM side, and it's a heavy-duty truck issue as well. Now, all of that being said, I hate to say this right now, there's not a manufacturer out there with no problems. Toyota's got issues with some engines they're replacing on some of their makes and models. Of course, we can go down the list of what's happened with the Kia end of things. I mean, I get a list of recalls that I get from the NHTSA, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, every Monday. And I will tell you that I can read through that, and there's not a manufacturer out there that doesn't end up on that list. And this is everything from people that make, you know, off-road type vehicles, RVs, trailers even, campers, regular automotive, you know, Mercedes, BMW, on down the line. And everybody will be on there at one point or another for whatever reason. So anybody out there saying, oh, go buy X, you know, go buy a Honda, they never have a recall. Yeah, they do. you're full of crap because, yeah, they do. I mean, every manufacturer will have them. And part of that's because men still make cars. People make cars, and people make mistakes, and engineers make mistakes, and the design of or whatever, and even the parts supplier that that manufacturer is getting their parts from can have issues like we had with Takata airbags. So in a lot of cases, it's not even the manufacturer themselves. It's who they bought that part from. As I've said many, many times, we call them manufacturers. They're not. They're an assembler. They have an assembly line, and they may make themselves a few parts for the car, maybe the body, so maybe some of the sheet metal stuff, maybe the engine. And I say maybe because sometimes that can even be a joint venture with somebody else. Rarely do they make their own transmission. This case of GM, they are, and actually it's been a mistake. They should have just stayed with Allison and had them make a transmission for them, but that's another story for another conversation another day. A lot of manufacturers are using somebody else's transmission. What's the big one that they use? It slipped my mind for a second.
SPEAKER 06 :
There's Ison, and then there's... What's the other one?
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It's like 75% of the market is the other transmission. Well, ZF, that's a lot of them too. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, so that's the other. So point being, they don't even make that. None of the drivetrain do any of these manufacturers make. None of the brakes, rotors, hubs, wheels, suspension components, steering components, rack and pinions. I can go down the list. Electrical, wiring harnesses, Roy can attest to that because one time you used to put those together for one of the manufacturers. Chrysler. Yeah, so you did wiring harnesses for the company that did it for them. So you can attest to that. I mean, even those sorts of things. We talked about earlier the plug on the RAV4. Toyota's not making that. Somebody is making that harness and those plugs for that RAV4, for that Toyota, and it could be one of maybe three or four suppliers that got the bid, the RFP. They won that RFP, and they're now making those particular harnesses, headlights, taillights, interior parts, seats, seat belts. I can go down the list. So they're an assembler. They're not a manufacturer. So every manufacturer is going to have issues getting back to the whole heavy-duty truck site, Ford, GM, Ram. I've already talked a ton about Ram. Hate those guys right now, even though I own a bunch of their trucks and various reasons why. I've given you most of those reasons. Will I recommend you buy a Ram truck today? Heavy duty? No. No. Now, you're going to see a lot on the Internet throughout the next couple of weeks of a new 6.7 they're coming out with. It's got exposed injector rails, exposed injectors, and things along those lines where you don't have to remove the valve cover even to get into it and so on. How is that all going to work out? No idea. No idea. Most people don't even have anything other than an outside view of that engine to even know what's going on internally. Supposedly, it'll be in 2025 Rams with an 8-speed, not an AISIN, but an 8-speed. What brand? I can't remember, Josh.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's not a ZF because the AISIN was in all the heavy duties. And then it was a Chrysler in all the lighter duties.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can't remember. If somebody knows what that 8-speed in the 2025s will be, please let me know. But it'll be an 8-speed, not a 10-speed in the Ram trucks.
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It's not a Getrag.
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And there's even some debate on what will the engine block itself be made out of when it comes to this new Cummins 6.7 that they're going to put in the 2025. So, again, I don't know anything about any of that for sure. By the way, nobody does. The things that you're reading even on the Internet are things that have been, quote, unquote, leaked out. So there's nothing official from Ram on that end of things. So in answering some of these people's questions, what heavy-duty truck do you buy? I can't answer that. I think for a lot of you, it depends on where are you at, how well does your dealer service you, and what do you feel the most comfortable buying when it's all said and done. So in my opinion, it's Ford and GM is really all you have left. Unfortunately for me personally as a fleet operator, I don't have a good Ford dealer that services things well that we get good warranty from and so on. So we're kind of down to where we're only buying GM right now because of everything I just said. And, yes, now they've got their own set of issues with transmissions and so on. Knock on wood, we as a facility and as a fleet shop haven't had any issues. Now, I say all that to say I'm also, as you guys know, we're big on doing transmission services and things along those lines as well. And is that why we haven't had any issues? I don't know. And some of you guys are texting me where you're having transmission issues on these 10-speed heavy duties at 20,000 miles. And, yeah, you wouldn't have serviced it at 20K. So I get some of these are just problems that that particular transmission you have has. Is it widespread? Yes. But it's sort of like the old six-liter Fords. Was every six-liter Ford bad? No. Did they get a bad rap because a lot of them were? Yes. Got sued. All sorts of things happened over that. Does it mean that every six leader was bad? No. In fact, the ones that are still rolling around today were probably some of the better six leaders out there because they've made it to today. And you know what I mean by that.
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That and we found all the problems and fixed them, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. Correct. So will these things get fixed and move on in the industry? Yes. Will GM get some of these things solved? They don't have a choice. Yes, they'll get them fixed. What will the fix be? Don't know exactly. Right now, as we heard directly from the horse's mouth, there isn't any. They're going to do some software updates right now to make sure it goes into limp mode when it's supposed to so you avoid having any kind of a lockup. How all the rest of this plays out, I don't know. But, again, have they all had issues? Ford's had their share of issues. Remember, this 10-speed is a joint venture between Ford and GM. What I mean by that is don't be surprised if Ford doesn't have a similar recall on their 10-speeds because it's essentially the same transmission. And the way that works is it depends upon how many failures have been reported to trigger the recall. So don't be shocked, and I don't have a crystal ball, but don't be shocked if Ford doesn't have the same recall when it's all said and done. Because they're the same. Right. It's a joint venture. Exactly. So don't, again, some of you that are like, well, yeah, that's why I buy a Ford, because there's no recall. Don't get ahead of yourself here. You may very well be in the same boat when it's all said and done. Point being, they all have issues. To me, this comes down to who do you work with locally? How does your dealer take care of you? Who do you feel confident in when it comes to that? And some of you that drive coast to coast, it becomes even a bigger deal because now you're at the mercy of wherever you have a problem, where you stop, and who's going to take care of you. And, yeah, I don't take that lightly because I know that's not a good position to be in. I mean, other than buying one of the older diesel trucks that's out there, you know, go buy a Duramax that's a 21 and older that has a good Allison. You know, you could... But what's going to happen is, and Josh can attest to this, it's going to make those vehicles worth more. Those people that have those older diesels that are pretty tried and true, it just makes them worth more money now.
SPEAKER 06 :
And they are because you don't have to deal with DEF, and you don't have to deal with particulate filters and all that good stuff, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
EGRs.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. So I hope that explains some on the heavy-duty side. I know I'm really hard on RAM, which I am because of my own experience with them. Before we go to break, one thing that somebody asked me this week to cover is I thought everybody knew this. I'm going to pull my key fob out of my pocket because I thought most everybody knew this. But maybe not because I had a question on this this past week. In every one of the remote fobs where there's no key, which I have my Chevy one in my hand, in my case, and every one of these is a little bit different, but in my case, there's a side button that if you push it, you can pull the actual physical key out, which could be used in the door locks or other things that they may put locks on, and that's what that key is used for. And in a lot of cases, even some of the sports cars, There's typically a hidden slot. You sometimes have to look it up in the owner's manual or go to YouTube if you're locked out of the car, for example. In other words, if the key fob doesn't work, you can still pull your key out and utilize that to get into the vehicle, even on a lot of the cars where there's no door handles and things like that. Somebody asked me if I would mention where that key is located in the fob. And for all of you that have a remote, look somewhere on the remote, side, top, bottom. You'll normally see a little button. Sometimes it'll be in the same matching surface as the rest of the key fob. Sometimes they'll change it to like a chrome button. Sometimes it'll be a chrome key fob and it'll be a black button. Sometimes it's still a chrome button. Point being, you'll see a button somewhere on your fob that'll allow you to push that and then pull the key out. And in most late model cars now, they're a laser cut key.
SPEAKER 12 :
They are.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you're gonna see it, meaning it's just a little square rectangle type key with laser cut in it and that's how most of them work. Somebody texted me and asked if I'd cover that today, so there you go. Yes, for all of you listening, that's what you need to do. All right, we've got a review coming up of a Toyota Tacoma, by the way, which we drove recently. So enjoy that, and we'll be back right after that. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Richard, you just drove a 2024 Toyota Tacoma. Give me the trim options and so on. But for those of you listening, Tacoma, this is one of their largest markets in the nation for Tacoma in this Denver area.
SPEAKER 25 :
Yeah, it is. Well, and I'm sure so many folks are looking like, well, yeah, John, I see a gazillion of these things. You're right. You do. You see a gazillion of these things running around here, Dad, because they do well, right? That midsize truck, obviously, it's not a full size. It's not meant to be a full size. But it just is phenomenal out here. The size lets you get into tighter parking spaces, that sort of thing. But the 2024 Tacoma Dad has been one that people, I think, have been waiting for for a while, right? It's all new, all redesigned for 24. If you've been looking for that, Toyota's generally a little bit slower to update things, but they do that for a reason, right? If something's working... They find something reliable and they stick with it.
SPEAKER 04 :
So this model, what did you drive? What model was it?
SPEAKER 25 :
So we had a 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road Edition, and they've got a gazillion different, you know, not a lot, but they've got an SR5, the TRD Sport, the Trail Hunter TRD, all sorts of different things, right? You can get this truck, Dad, as they say, Tacoma, anywhere from $35,000 all the way up to $65,000 if you opt for the TRD Pro, which includes a bunch of different, not aftermarket, but kind of A bunch of off-road accessories, right, where you can basically pick that thing up and go straight up the hill with it. With the one that we had, it had the off-road premium package on it, which I'm not going to list for everyone. Basically, it gives you heated and ventilated front seats, a nice big kind of display. I think it's a 14-inch display. It's got a fun little option that it actually comes with a wireless Bluetooth speaker kind of in the center area. You know, center of the dashboard that, you know, if you're off-road or whatever it is, you can just pop that bad boy out and, you know, pop it up as you're camping and listen to it. It does come with a new four-cylinder engine. The one we drove, Dad, does not have the I-Force Max option, which, for those of you listeners that don't know, basically that's the powertrain that they're putting in a lot of their vehicles, Dad. It's essentially a hybrid, right? It generates a lot more torque. lot more power, but you're supposed to get the same fuel economy that you get out of the I-Force engine that we drove, which was really good, Dad, because it's still a turbocharged engine, and it works really well at our altitude, right? It's got good power throughout. I actually had to haul a few parts around and stuff for the office this past week, and it did that really well. Now, I will say this. And, folks, this is not a knock on this. This is just, I'm telling you, this is not a car meant to fit four full-size adults.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, they are not. Very few of those mid-sized trucks are, by the way.
SPEAKER 25 :
Correct. And so it's not a knock on any of them. Just know what you're buying because you recently reviewed it. It's not meant to be bigger, right, Dad? It's meant to serve a purpose. Two full-size adults. If you've got a family of four with some smaller kids, could you put them in the back seat and be able to do all the things that you're looking for? Absolutely, you could. I really like what they've done with the redesigned ads. So for folks who haven't seen it, I encourage them to head to Toyota's website. and kind of check it out, head to some dealer lots. I know that some of them are on the lots that way, but it works really well. And I know, Ed, that you've obviously driven Tacomas before. Like you said, we see a gazillion of them around here in Colorado, and it's for a reason.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And just for you, everybody listens to that. I just looked it up to that. The I-Force Max, the hybrid powertrain is not available in that trim level is why they don't do it. I'm guessing because of some of the off-road capabilities and so on. The other one's going to be heavier. So they're probably I'm assuming they're going to lighten things up for the off-road version.
SPEAKER 25 :
Yeah, and I will say that it's actually a specific trim level. Like, if you're going onto Toyota's website or wherever it is, it will say, you know, I-Force Max. And so if you're looking for that, it increases the price by about $5,000. So the one that we had wasn't a guy, and I think it was even a later in this year, Dad. If you're looking for that, I think they're starting to be available, and they come in the Limited and a few of the other trim levels. But honestly, Dad, again, for what ours was, and fuel economy, by the way, about 21, 22 miles per gallon, which is right about where I was at. Yeah, not bad at all. The only thing that I wish they would do, and this is just a personal preference, just because here in Colorado we're a little bit more spread out, I didn't hate the fuel economy. It just got a small fuel tank. And so I actually did have to put a little bit of fuel into it. Benefit, though, is in some turbocharged engines, Dad, you've got to put premium fuel. Not the case in this with the Tacoma. You can just put standard, you know, whatever, I guess, unleaded gasoline into it, and you're good to go. I enjoyed it. My kids did. One nice thing, Dad, is sometimes when you get these off-road trim levels, they ride a little bit rougher, right? And some people don't like that. I will say with the TRD off-road, it rode rougher, but it did not ride so bad or was so loud or anything in that way, shape, or form that turned me off to it, right? And usually that's kind of what you and I go off of is, okay, would this prevent me from buying the car? And the answer is no. They've actually done a good job at sort of blending. The street, you know, the drivability of it on your everyday drive with the capability of the off-road piece of it that I really, really like and kind of how they put that together. Gotcha. The price point on the one we drove, Dad, was the mid-50s. And again, that had a few different options and packages and stuff on it. We encourage folks to check that out themselves as they... as they see fit. But honestly, the best thing for people to do that is get out, test drive these vehicles if you can. Again, they're all new for 2024. They're selling really well. They always do. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Again, Josh Goff with us from Legacy Automotive up in Boulder. Ridgeline Auto Brokers as well. Boulder, Longmont, and Fort Collins. And then Roy and Dietze both with us from ProTech Auto Shield as well. Jerry and Aurora, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, I'm looking at buying a used Chevy Silverado pickup. I've looked at three, like a 2010, a 2013, and a 2015. I only want a 5.3 engine in it. Is there any particular years, is the engine, the 5.3, all the same? Did any have electrical issues or computer or engine, drivetrain problems that you know of? Sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Of those three, no. They're all relatively the same.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're all the same pretty much.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the 5.3s, I mean, Josh can attest to this, that's a solid engine. They run and run and run and run and run. They do. And get great mileage.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a displacement on demand side, which some people like or don't like. I think if they're serviced well, I don't see as many issues as the ones that aren't. So just have it looked over before you purchase it.
SPEAKER 08 :
So as far as the... The year difference there, is there more of a maintenance issue when you get to the later year model, so with all the electronic computer stuff?
SPEAKER 06 :
Not that I've seen on the 5.3. The 6.2, I think there's some issues that I'm starting to see, but not the 5.3. Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct. Okay, that's about all I was needing to know. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're very welcome. No, and that's a great, that was one of General Motors' better engine designs, maybe is the right way for me to say that, Josh. I mean, those things will go, well, my dad had one that was in an 03 that we actually put into service in our fleet that had close to 340,000 on it or something. It's never been a part.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they run forever.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, how do you argue that?
SPEAKER 06 :
The main thing on that truck is just ball joints and steering suspension, but all the trucks have that same issue. So before I purchase it, I just have somebody look over what that truck before you buy it to make sure it doesn't need ball joints or, you know, tie rod ends or any of that stuff. But usually it's a pretty good truck.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Good to know. Yeah, so those of you that are listening, when it comes to that particular model of vehicle, yeah, Jerry, in your case, that's more of who owned it, how did they do their maintenance, what condition is the vehicle in. I look at all of that. I don't care whether it's the 2010 or the 2015. I'll buy whichever one has the best care.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 04 :
on it, out of that, even over mileage and how it looks. I'm more concerned about who owned it and what did they do to it. So if you've got good records and you can look at all of that, then that's what I would do. Jeff in Denver. This is a call for Roy and Dietze. Go ahead, Jeff.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. I have a couple of deep scratches in my car. One is about an inch long. The other one is about three inches long. And they're deep enough they go down to the bare metal. I was wondering if... If they couldn't do repair like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, if it goes all to the metal, I mean, it's going to need some... It needs to be repainted.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, your options are repaint, Jeff. Repaint now. You could, depending upon where the scratch is and how particular you are. Exactly. I was going to say that. You could touch it up and then polish all around it and so on and make it look halfway good, but it's not going to be the same.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you can bring it to us and we can look at it and then... Maybe if you don't want to pay the money to repaint the vehicle or the panels, in this case, we can touch it up for you. Do a little bit of sanding polish, touch it up. Where is it at, Jeff?
SPEAKER 04 :
Where is the scratch at?
SPEAKER 10 :
One is on the door, the rear door, and the other one is on the front fender.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. On the door, is it near the edge or is it in the middle? In the middle. That's worse. Really quick for a lot of you listening, you get an edge ding, and I've had this happen, and Roy is really good about fixing these. You can, on an edge ding, touch it up and then put a little PPF on the edge that sort of blends all that together, and it really hides the touch-up with the PPF, and you really never know it was there. So that's a little trick for some of you that have some dingies on the door edges. But when it's in the middle, Jeff, that gets a little tougher.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think at this point it's up to him. I mean, if he wants to repaint it. What color is it, by the way? Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's kind of a dark red.
SPEAKER 04 :
That makes it worse.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, it's not very noticeable.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I'm sure it's metallic, right? Yeah, dark red metallic is probably, I'm not saying it's the hardest to touch up, but one of the, silver is the worst of all colors. Silver is the hardest because of the modeling of the metallics and so on. So silver is the hardest, but that dark red metallic, Jeff, isn't any better.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's tough. And I say that because no matter who tells you how close they can make the color match, that may be true. They may get the color matched exactly. But what I said a moment ago about the metallic in the paint and the modeling, and I know that's hard for me to explain on the radio, Roy, and Josh, you know what I mean by modeling. But to get the metallic to lay the exact same as the current paint that's on the car to where everything blends is extremely, if not impossible, to duplicate what's on the car now. Yeah.
SPEAKER 23 :
It's like having a bunch of tiny mirrors reflecting the light.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's literally an impossibility. No matter what YouTube or TikTok or what other video shows you using a touch-up paint and a deck of cards to smooth that out and make it look good, yeah, no, that's on video, and it ain't looking that good when it's done. No. No.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. Okay, and one other question. What is the best type of – windshield film to put on that uh rejects the heat the best for heat rejection ceramic tint yeah ceramic ceramic yeah ceramic window tint is going to be the one that's going to give you the best heat rejection on it okay and uh and does that uh does that interfere with the ability uh or is it uh you can still sleep Clear out of the windshield. Still see clear.
SPEAKER 04 :
I've had it on numerous of my – in fact, I've given the testimonial, Jeff, on this show, Roy and Dietze. I've got cars that are done, and occasionally I'll get a press car, for example, and I'll drive a press car for a week. And when I get a press car that is not tinted, I notice a huge difference in the way things look, especially at night. with my astigmatism, especially at night driving, I will tell you that the one that is tinted slightly way better to see at night than the one not.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, okay. Well, that's good info. Well, I appreciate your info.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're very welcome, Jeff. No, appreciate that. Yeah, for a lot of you listening that, like me, you've got a stigmatism in your eyesight, and you've always wondered, how do I make that a little better at night? You might even wear different types of glasses and so on that try to help with that. I'll just tell you straight up, just tint the front windshield. Do what Roy and Dietze do with the coating. And, by the way, it's such that I would highly doubt any – Police officer, because you're technically not supposed to tint those, but I highly doubt, given how light the tint is, you'd ever have any issues because you literally can't tell it's there. It's literally more of a rejection of light and the UV as it is anything.
SPEAKER 23 :
As of this year, you can have 70% on the windshield.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. And that's what we recommend for windshields, 70%, which is almost clear, but you get a lot of benefits, which the main benefit is the heat rejection.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And the night driving, as I mentioned a moment ago. And guys, I really can't... As far as testimony goes, it's hard to explain. You have to have the type of eyesight that I have to really understand the differences. But when you have astigmatism at night, the lights want to get blurry. I don't know how else to say it. The headlights coming at you get more blurry, and they sort of sparkle out. I don't know how else to say it. And with the tint on the windshield, it retracts a lot of that and brings that light back in to where you don't notice it as much, and you don't have as much of that fogginess or blindingness that might go on with the other cars. And even the streetlights and stuff that are up above you, you just don't see it as much with those that are tinted versus those that are not. That's probably the best way for me to say that. So it works solid. Oh, yeah. Okay. We'll talk more about that when we come back. Don't go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for calling in today, by the way. We appreciate it. We have some lines open, 303-477-5600. Kelly and Parker, you are next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hello?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hello, Kelly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hi, John. How are you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Good. Good to talk to you.
SPEAKER 11 :
You too. This is kind of a dumb question, but I have an older car, 2012, and the rubber on my steering wheel is all pitted. It's like it's peeling off. Is there anything you can do with that to restore it? Nothing that lasts.
SPEAKER 06 :
You usually just put a cover over it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, thank you, Josh. I was going to just say the same thing, Kelly. When it comes to the steering wheels themselves and what's on it, the only two options that you have are replace it with another wheel, which sometimes you can find, sometimes you can't find. It depends on the age of the vehicle. In some cases, you'll have to buy a used one, which may not be any better than the one you actually have right now. The other option is get a really good, high-quality lace-on cover. And when I mean high-quality lace-on cover, there's some leather-type covers you make that you literally stitch on yourself. It gives you everything to do it with, the needle, the thread, the whole nine yards, and you stitch that on. And if you do it correctly, it looks like a million bucks and almost looks factory. I would probably do that more than anything. Now, a good cover like that will be $50, $75 or so.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, and it'll take you three times.
SPEAKER 04 :
If you get some practice, it becomes a little easier. The key there is put the main seam for the steering wheel cover at the bottom. So put that down at the bottom at the 6 o'clock mark. Start there with your lacing. And where it gets a little tricky is where you've got to go around the spokes. You know, every wheel has either two or three spokes you have to kind of work around, sometimes four. That's where it gets a little bit tricky. But if you follow their instructions on how to do that, it's not too bad. And you can lace that on and have it look really good at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 11 :
Huh, okay. Well, thank you for your help.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's what I would do. And you can make, really, and frankly, that will protect it down the road from doing it more. And if you get a really good, solid leather that is vat-dyed, in other words, the color is the same all the way through, that thing will last the rest of the vehicle. Don't buy a cheap, there's a lot of cheapy ones out there that are more of a vinyl-y, plastic-y, you know, and those are crap. Spend the money and get a good solid leather one. And you've got to measure the wheel because they make these specific for the size of wheel that you have. You know, 13, 14, 13 1⁄2, whatever. You'll have to measure exactly where you're at and then order accordingly.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
What causes that to happen, John, to you?
SPEAKER 04 :
The sun and the heat and the UV and so on. Back to our conversation with Roy and Dietze on the window tint and so on, it's that UV light coming in that's causing that.
SPEAKER 11 :
I thought maybe it was the oil off of your hands even.
SPEAKER 04 :
That doesn't help. Keeping them clean helps, but the main thing is the combination of, yes, the oil on your skins, lotions and so on, and the UV is what's doing that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, thank you so much for your help.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're very welcome, Kelly. Appreciate it. Okay, with all that being said, for some of you that have maybe newer vehicles and you're worried a little bit about what Kelly just said, here's the key on a steering wheel especially because our hands are always dirty. That's why we wash them after going to the restroom and it was a big deal during COVID and so on. Well, all of that just natural oil and things that are on your hands, and for some of you that use hand lotions and so on, it's even worse. That's all going on the wheel. So I would tell you that... As you're getting gas, on a typical weekly basis, keep some of those Clorox wipes around the car, and when you're getting gas, wipe the steering wheel down at the same time. You're gonna keep all that oil and junk off. Now, they also make some nice interior products where you could even clean with those if you wanted to, interior wipes and so on. I'm not, and I hope I'm correct in this, Roy, I'm not an Armor All fan. They typically add oils and things into it that, frankly, don't help you at the end of the day. Sorry, Armor All, but they're really not helping when it's all said and done. I'm one, especially on the steering wheel, just keep it clean. You don't need to add any other product to it. Just keep it clean. Am I right?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you're right. Yeah, no armor roll. Yeah, no armor roll. And this is when I recommend the window film on your windshield because the UV rays, they're going to cause a lot of problems on your dash, steering wheel, seats, and all that. So... That's a good thing. I mean, and when you clean the steering wheel, like you were saying, I mean, with chloro swipes or whatever, just make sure. Everything gets dry before you start driving the vehicle.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, again, what we were talking about with Dietze and Roy on the window film, for those of you that are worried about, hey, I've got a newer vehicle. I want to keep the interior lasting as long. You know, the old days of really, you know, cracked dashes and things like that have gotten a lot better because the materials are better, although that can still happen. And the best way to do that, we used to do dash mats and things like that back in the day, but just tint the film, you know, put the right film on the the windows itself, and you'll eliminate the majority of that just by doing that. You don't need to do all the other things. Everything is going to last longer on your interior. And this is right up Dietze and Roy's alley as well. The cleanliness... Make sure I say this correctly. How clean you're keeping the dash, the steering wheel, the grab handles, the seats has a big effect upon how things are down the road when you go to trade it in for somebody like Josh. Because all of those things, you know, cars, we're in them more so than we are our house in most cases. They're going to get dirty. You've got natural oils coming off of your skin, your hair, things like that. And I don't want to get too gross here, but that stuff transfers, okay? And you want to keep those things clean. So periodically, even those of us that are clean freaks, believe it or not, you can take some of these things I'm just talking about, and there's interior cleaner that they make specific for this. You take a white towel. and take some interior cleaner and spray that on your seats you drive on every day and wipe them off and tell me what comes off on that white rag. Everything. A lot of stuff. And that comes from even the color in your clothing. There's dyes that are in your clothing. That will rub off on those seats and so on. So all of that stuff is getting into the fabric, the leather, the vinyl, the whatever it is on your seats, and you want to keep that stuff clean because the cleaner it is, to Josh's point earlier, the longer everything lasts. Mm-hmm. The better it looks when you go to trade it. And yes, I am living proof when it comes to doing those trades that typically I get the question, is this a John Rush car or somebody else's? Because they know if it's mine, they are going to vacuum it and put it on the lot. maybe wash it, depending upon how far it had to go to get there, but that's literally all they're going to do. They're going to vacuum it, wash it, put it on the lot, because they don't have to do anything else. It's done. The car's literally on the inside, outside, it's ready to go. They don't have to do another thing with it because of how I take care of my vehicles, meaning I'm getting a higher value, whether I'm selling it or trading. Typically, I trade because you save on the sales tax side, and I keep my cars good enough that on the trade aspect, it still works out at the end of the day, but that's Josh, you know that's how that works. The better the car is, and if they know you're that person, you're going to automatically get a higher price for the car.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's no negotiation really needed. They know what they can do with that car.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they don't have to do anything to it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they know that that type of car, there's not that many around, and they're high demand when there's a used one on the lot.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's that simple. I had a friend of mine, a client of mine recently has just traded in a, I want to say a 2018 or 19 truck on a brand new Tahoe. That truck is already on the lot, ready to go the day after with the price they're trying to sell it at. And that truck won't sit on a lot very long because of what it compares. It's $25,000 less than a new truck, meaning it'll sell immediately.
SPEAKER 06 :
And for the dealership, they need to turn money out of that car right away. So if it takes them a lot of time to recon it, that's the time it's down. It's just sitting there getting fixed instead of being ready to sell.
SPEAKER 04 :
Great point. All right, folks, we've got another full hour coming your way. Give us a call, 303-477-5600. I'll check the text line as well. I apologize, I got a little behind there, but send me a text if you need to as well. I can talk about it on air. 307-200-8222. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, Drive Radio, KLZ 560, thank you all for joining us today. We appreciate it very much. It is December the 7th, so if you're listening to a replay show, you know what day it is. So it's Pearl Harbor Day as well, and I talked about that during Fix It Radio. We've got a full house today, so if you guys have questions for us, by all means, give us a call. 303-477-5600. Going around the table, Josh Goff.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good morning.
SPEAKER 22 :
Good to see you in Ridgeline. How are you?
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm good. How are you doing?
SPEAKER 22 :
Good. Always a joy to have you. And then going to my left, which you guys can't see this on because we're on radio, but Dietze from ProTech. Welcome.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you. How are you? Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 22 :
Always a joy to have you. Roy, welcome as well. Thank you, sir. Who else did you drag along with you? My daughter, Victoria. She's going to observe and she's going to start absorbing. We're training her. We're teaching. That's right. We love having young people get into our industry and all of you listening. I think you can relate and understand that as well. A few things that I wanted to talk about today that we'll get into that I had some questions on this week. Would I go ahead and talk about certain things? So, yes, some of you that asked those questions, I will get those answered. You can always text us as well, 307- 282.22. Question of the day. This might go with you guys here in studio today. What's the best gift you ever received over the holidays? What's the best gift you ever received over the holidays? That's the question of the day. 303-477-5600. Now, I can probably today do this. If not, I'll do it for sure next week. But maybe on top of that, for that hard-to-buy person in your life... What do you get them? And that one I may go ahead and carry from today to next week because we're getting into Christmas and people need ideas on what to buy folks and so on. And one thing I had mentioned yesterday during Ready Radio was for guys like me, I'm sure you guys in the room are the same, the one thing you can always buy me that I will never, ever refuse is a good flashlight. In my opinion, can't have enough of them. So if there's ever an item somebody wants to get me, I'll never refuse those. How about you, Josh?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, you always need a new flashlight, all the time.
SPEAKER 22 :
For what we do, you just, and now with them being LED and rechargeable and all of that, yeah, I'll always take a flashlight. I'm a junkie for those, I guess.
SPEAKER 14 :
Like knives.
SPEAKER 22 :
Can you ever have enough knives? No. No, you can't.
SPEAKER 14 :
Can't have enough pocket knives. Knives, flashlights.
SPEAKER 22 :
Or flashlights. I don't care. I can always use another one. So anyways, we'll go around the room with some of that today as well. But no, let me know, really, question of the day. What's the best gift you ever received over the holidays? Lines are open, 303-477-5600. Jerry, let's start with you. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
A friend of mine has an old Prius that he was involved in a minor accident and just a little bit of body damage, but it was enough that his insurance company said it was totaled. And he wants to keep the vehicle, so he's going to try to have the damage repaired and just keep driving it. But he's confused about how to deal with the title. When he went to the state website, He said it wasn't clear. He's under the impression that he doesn't necessarily have to have a salvage title on him. And I thought that once the vehicles totaled that that was a requirement, but I'm not sure.
SPEAKER 14 :
We have the expert here on that one. That's Josh. So he's going to buy it back from the insurance company.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
And so it will become a branded title. So it will say branded in some form as in salvage or rebuilt from salvage on the title. That's what they're going to do because he's buying it back from them. And it's been a total loss. So that's the kind of title he'll have. But if he's going to keep the car and just drive it forever, it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And the only issue he might have, he may want to contact this insurance company because some insurance companies don't want to insure salvaged title cars.
SPEAKER 22 :
Liability only maybe is all they'll do. And some won't even do that, but that's, yeah, to Josh's point.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's usually not that big of a deal. I mean, we've dealt with salvaged cars in the past, and it's not as big of a deal as it can be made out to be.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he's already had a lot of confusion with his insurance company. He He never told them. Well, they explained to him that as far as they were concerned, it was totaled, and he had the option of keeping it. And he hadn't decided, but they put the wheels in motion as if he had given the approval to go ahead and give them the vehicle, and he got all sorts of emails and phone calls.
SPEAKER 22 :
Really quick, Jerry, this goes back to what I was talking to, you know, Burke Payne in Fix-It Radio that first half hour, talking about the appraisal sides of things and insurance, you know— offers and so on and it may be worth a phone call to him on even the settlement that they're offering him to determine is this in line with actual values today and since he's a certified appraisal appraiser that may be another option before he actually signs on any dotted line i would at least make a phone call to burke and say hey what's up how am i am i getting a good deal right and he'll do that free of charge i could just call him on the phone and ask Okay. All right. Well worth a phone call to determine, you know, is this something where, hey, if I did an actual appraisal on the Prius, we might be able to get you a little bit more value and or what is the value of it being bought back and, and, and. So I think that one, especially Jerry's worth calling Burke over.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sounds like good advice. I'll pass that on to my friend.
SPEAKER 22 :
Do that. It's BP appraisals. You can find them on our website.
SPEAKER 05 :
All righty. Well, thank you very much, gentlemen. Thank you, Jerry.
SPEAKER 22 :
Great question, by the way. And I want to add something along those lines, too, on the salvage title end of things. Now, in this particular case, personally, I don't have a problem with a branded salvage title. It's a car you've owned. You know the history. You know what's going to happen. You're going to fix it and so on. Fine. Knock your socks off. I have no issues with that. I do have strong opinions, and I've had people text me and email me on this. I don't like buying vehicles that have branded or salvaged titles. I know there's a time and a place, but I just am not a fan because I don't know what was done to the vehicle, what was the damage like, and how extensive was it. And now I'm going to buy that from somebody that fixed it that I have no idea how things were done, and I just don't want to buy problems. Am I right, Josh, in that one? Exactly. You don't know what wasn't fixed. And the reason I bring this up is there are lots, car lots, used car lots in the Denver area that specialize in selling branded title cars. And they make it sound like, oh, this is a great way to save money. Well, maybe not. Maybe not. You never know. Yeah, thank you, Roy. You don't know. And so I personally, I'm just not a fan of buying branded title cars. If it's something you want to do on your own, like our last caller was doing with his neighbor, okay, that's a different scenario. Fine, knock your socks off. But just remember also, if you decide to do that with your own vehicle and you go to sell that vehicle down the road, it's harder to sell.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is.
SPEAKER 22 :
Anytime somebody sees that, it's a harder vehicle to move. So it's one of those, as Josh was saying, if you're going to keep it and drive it forever, knock your socks off. But if you ever in the future at any point decide to sell said vehicle, that becomes harder to do. Yeah, it becomes really hard to do. All right, Rich in Arvada, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. I've got a problem with the – Where it says on, I've got an F-150, 2011 SLT. And usually when the radio's on and you turn it off, it will run for, the radio will go on for a while. But the notice has been coming up that the system's shutting down to save the battery. And so in 2022, I had an alternator freeze up on me on the interstate in Iowa. had hauled to an independent garage there. They put on the alternator, and 16,000 miles later, supposedly, the alternator went out again because that sign went up. I took it to a garage. They said, well, they checked everything out, and it's the alternator. And it's unusual for an alternator to go out at 16,000 miles.
SPEAKER 14 :
So was it a new alternator installed or a remanufactured alternator?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it was back there when everything, parts were hard to get, and I called Ford, and they had, just out of curiosity, they had the exact same price for the alternator, so I don't know... It wasn't OME, I'm pretty sure on that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, if it was back when the parts were hard to get, then it's not too unusual. We had a lot of bad parts getting sold during that time. So that's, you know, if it was now, then it only made $16,000, then I'd worry about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then I had that put on and put a new super tying belt on it. And I just drove it for about a, Oh, maybe four or five hours. Turned the car off and the sign came up again to save the battery. The radio shut down to save the battery. So what would be causing that?
SPEAKER 14 :
I would have that battery tested is what I would do. Make sure that battery is in good shape, especially if you lost two alternators. That battery had to do a lot of extra work that it usually doesn't have to. Oh, really?
SPEAKER 07 :
Is that right?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and especially if – I don't think yours has an AGM. It probably still has a lead-acid battery. But if it does have an AGM, if you run an AGM dead a few times, they never really come back from it.
SPEAKER 22 :
Why is that, by the way?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know. There's a lot of weird things. Because they do.
SPEAKER 22 :
You're 100% correct on that. They suck at coming back.
SPEAKER 14 :
So what I'm assuming is you may have an AGM in that car, but I would just have that battery tested, make sure that battery is in good shape. Because the car is kind of checking the way the battery is operating, and it will let that, you know, before you open the door, it will let the radio play for, you know, 15 minutes on some cars. But if the battery is in poor condition, it knows the battery is in poor condition, and it will shut that off immediately.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Yeah, the battery's a couple years old. It's a Napa battery, and so maybe I should have them check that out again.
SPEAKER 14 :
I would still have it checked out, yeah, because that's usually the culprit, especially this time of year since we're kind of getting hot and cold and we're getting real cold at night. A lot of AGMs, and even lead-acid batteries, but AGMs, you know, are failing pretty rapidly, and they'll fail at weird times. I went walking the other night because of an AGM, so...
SPEAKER 07 :
On your own. On my own. I didn't test. That was my fault. So Rich, it happens to us. Yeah. I bought one of those for my Avalon. And, shoot, within a year, that thing had gone out. So I went back to a lead-acid battery. And that's what this one is here, you know, on the MS-150.
SPEAKER 22 :
Some cases you don't have a choice. If it's a battery where it's inside the compartment of the car, in those cases it's non-optional.
SPEAKER 14 :
You have to run it when you have a choice. But if it was a lead-acid battery to begin with, just put a lead-acid back in it. The AGM is not going to give you anything. I agree with you on that one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Okay, well, thanks a lot.
SPEAKER 22 :
All right, Rich, great phone call. Thank you for that very much. Lines are open, 303-477-5600. Mike, hang tight. We'll come right back to you. And again, text line is open, 307-282-22. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 22 :
All right, we are back. And again, Josh Goff from Legacy Automotive and Ridgeline Auto Brokers up in Boulder. So those of you that have really used car title type questions, things along those lines, we have our resident expert with us. So if you have a question along anything that way, buying, selling, what do you do, all of that, we can answer that very easily. And then, of course, ProTech Auto Shield. We've got the crew here from there, Roy and Dietze both. So if you guys have questions even on, hey, I'm heading into the winter months. I want to do different things to the vehicle. We'll get into some of the window tint and everything. Paint protection film, we used to call it clear bra, but really the name has changed because you can use it for so many other things now than what it used to be. In fact, we have a couple of pieces in our studio because I got tired of the walls getting all marked up where chairs hit them. So I put some clear bra on that Roy got me that I put on a couple of places here in the studio to keep the corners from getting all dinged up. And it works. So lots of uses for it that we can talk about today. So Pro-Tech Auto Shield, though, and Wheat Ridge, those guys will take great care of you. as well. So, and all of our sponsors, Roy, Dietze, Josh, they're all on our website, drive-radio.com. Just go there and check it out. Mike, you're next, sir. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, John. Hey, Mike. Quick question. 06 Rev 4. My driver's side taillight running light goes out when it's cold.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it ran all summer and then it goes, you know, it I can't confirm what's doing this. Any ideas? Oh, it's LED.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it's probably either in the actual contacts, like the connector to it. The socket. On the socket. So I've had a few of them where there's like a five-pin connector to the taillight, too, where the pins, when it's warm, they'll be tight, and when it gets cold, they separate. And sometimes if you can have the light on for a while, it'll stay on for a while, but it's usually in those pins or the actual socket out at the taillight itself. Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
But when I play with the wires, I'm not getting any.
SPEAKER 22 :
You won't because it's inside the connector itself. Yeah, it's in the connector itself. Oh, jeez.
SPEAKER 08 :
I hate getting into there. Right. There's no room for my hands to get in there.
SPEAKER 14 :
There's not any room for your hands to get in there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, second thing, John. Do you think Morrison losing its police department has anything to do with Vandermeer pulling out?
SPEAKER 22 :
No, I think from what I read in the article, and I haven't talked to anybody from the city, but they've had some police chief issues, as you know. They've gone through now, I believe, two in the last six months or so. And frankly, Mike, why they ran that thing as long as they did and maybe not having to help Bandamere with traffic and so on is part of it. But really, at the end of the day, I just don't see as a city how that was cost effective in the first place. All they were doing was writing tickets for revenue, which is really not the way to do it.
SPEAKER 14 :
And most cities in the state have quit having police departments.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, I mean, Jeff Kosheriff has already said they can handle Morrison Forum just fine, not a huge issue. Mike, again, that's another one where I don't know why they did it for as long as they did. Dumb.
SPEAKER 08 :
The thing I saw on the news is, like, they only made $500,000 worth of tickets last year, and the police department was supposed to be 1.6 million.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. I mean, to me, the math itself says, why are we doing this?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and Jeffco even said they're not going to do any traffic control.
SPEAKER 22 :
Thank you for saying that, too, Mike, because really, at the end of the day, for all of you listening, this isn't really even a lack of police to help the Morrison residents because the majority of the police in Morrison did nothing but run traffic on 470 and some of those other area roads, which have nothing to do with the city of Morrison or the town of Morrison itself, Mike. So at the end of the day, I don't know why they existed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah, I always loved it. What are they doing over here on 285? Thank you. It has nothing to do with Morrison.
SPEAKER 22 :
They're miles from the city. Thank you. Well, they could write tickets. They were generating revenue to handle their own existence is really the way to say that, Mike.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Sorry, that's just a brass tacks of it. Bandimere created a lot of tax revenue for them, but I wouldn't think that it would be that much to totally shut down
SPEAKER 22 :
I don't think so either.
SPEAKER 08 :
But, you know, I can remember back in late 60s when there was nothing across Green Mountain.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, me too. Me too. I mean, I'm a native, so you know, Mike. Yeah, I mean, I can remember even going racing at Bandimere. 470 didn't exist, and you had to go in the little back roads to get in. And in the big races like at Mahi Nationals, the traffic was backed up for hours upon hours. And, yeah, those are very fresh memories still.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I can remember when Vandermeer didn't even have Saturday night racing because of their religious beliefs.
SPEAKER 22 :
Right. Sunday. Sunday racing. It was Saturday only. Friday night and Saturday was no Sunday racing.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. They had to move everything to Saturday night because they couldn't ride on Sunday for the big events.
SPEAKER 22 :
That's right. Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
And there again, I can remember hearing Top Fuel and everything down in Green Mountain when I lived there.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, which is a ways away.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, again, for those that I talked a lot about this last year when they decided to finally sell and do what they did, and a lot of people were very mad and mad at developers and mad at this and mad at that. And my answer was, okay, time out. First of all, we're all capitalists for the most part that listen to this program. capitalism in and of itself says they should have done exactly what they did, and nobody should be upset with them or anybody around them. It was because of that development and the things sneaking in and getting closer and closer and closer that allowed the property value to get to the point where they could cash out and do very well as a family, and we should be congratulating them, not mad.
SPEAKER 08 :
I still don't think we'll see Bandimere back.
SPEAKER 22 :
I am with you, Mike.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because they tried to go into Aurora many moons ago, and that got shut down.
SPEAKER 22 :
And I know there's a lot of you that are out there. Please, you can text me and call if you want. And I've seen a lot of the rumors and some of the news that, yes, they're going to go out near Hudson, and that's the plan, and so on and so forth. But, Mike, I am like you. I'll believe it when I see it.
SPEAKER 08 :
There's too many tree huggers in, you know, People's Republic of Boulder and et cetera.
SPEAKER 22 :
That'll put a stop on that. I'm sorry. I said this before. I'll say it again. When you look at what it takes to run that and how much stress that puts on a family and, and, and, and, and, and you can cash out and go do something else with that money even as a family and literally probably be set for numerous generations down the road, why would you, Mike? Yeah. Sorry. Why would you?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's just, you know, Vandermeer's been there since I've been in Colorado, and I moved here in 1960. Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
No, my dad started with them. That's how long they've been around. Before the racetrack, even, it was just auto parts. My dad's been around them. So, yeah, I mean, as far as families go, and it's always sad to see those things change, and nobody likes it because nobody likes change and progression, but it's the fact of life.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but it's just like the airport. I just can't stand these people that cry about the noise when they moved into the noise. It's not like the noise moved into them.
SPEAKER 22 :
Agree. Can't argue that. All right. Have a good one. No, great call. Appreciate it very much. John and Cheyenne, Paul, hang tight. I want to take one text question really quick before we go to break, then we'll take you. This is for you, Josh. If your car is paid off, how does the insurance company, the buyback total like we were talking about a moment ago, have the power to affect your title if they never had possession of it? How does that work?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, they buy the car. You have to give them the car.
SPEAKER 22 :
Correct. So it's not simply – there's a transaction that's taking place here. So when they total your car and you agree to buy it back from them, that's the key word. You're buying it back, meaning you're giving them title in the first place. they're then stamping it with the salvage title end of things, and you're buying it back that way.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. I mean, I've done that. It's a transaction.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, it's a transaction. It's not simply that, you know, if you want to avoid all of that, then don't turn the claim in, fix the car, keep it, keep it unbranded, and off you go. But you're not going to get insurance money.
SPEAKER 14 :
They won't give you claim money. Right.
SPEAKER 22 :
There's no claim then.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 22 :
But if you do a claim and do the whole process that Jerry's neighbor was talking about doing the first caller today, that's how that works and why the title comes back branded. Yeah, you'll have to give them the title in order to get your claims checked. Otherwise, there's no claim. Exactly. And by the way, that was a great question. It is a good question. I think a lot of people don't understand how that works. So whoever this was that texted, thank you for that because that's a great question. But there's your answer. All right, we'll be right back. John, Paul, guys, hang tight. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Yep, they're pushed to the frame rail.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yep, so it's done. It's a total. So my point is, we talked to Burke and Fix-It Radio for about a half an hour on how to handle those things and so on, and I've even told them that this is a great example of where you need a certified appraisal of the value of that vehicle because you're going to fight with that other insurer to get all the dollars out of it you need when it's all said and done. So that's a perfect example of where somebody like Burke Payne or he himself needs to get involved and help you with that. And I've told them that, that I've got a guy that can help you with values and so on and maximizing the dollars out of the other insurance companies so you're made whole again. Because if you just go at it yourself, even though he's a car guy, he doesn't hold the same weight that a certified appraiser does. Even Josh being a used car dealer, Adding that in, Josh is not a certified appraiser. Now, the insurance company may look at Josh a little more heavily than even somebody like myself, who's just a radio host. But at the end of the day, that certified appraisal is really what the insurance company will look at and go off of because that's how it works, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
It is.
SPEAKER 22 :
No different than getting your jewelry appraised or anything else along those lines. You could ask your best bud, what's this diamond ring worth? He may tell you. But at the end of the day, a certified appraiser has to look at that and really tell you what the value is because they know market conditions and everything else. And it's not that we don't, but having that certified appraisal in that particular example is what you need to do. So John and Cheyenne, you're next.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, who was it that I think it was Josh that said something about the battery just startled me. I'm getting ready to head into town to get a new battery for my wife's Ram. $1,500. Nope, that's mine. 5.9 Hemi, you know, standard. I'm on Napa's website, and there's only two batteries that they're offering that are not AGM. Which one do you go with? Do you go with the Napa Legend, or do you go with the AAA Premium?
SPEAKER 14 :
Are they still up there? I think they are.
SPEAKER 11 :
I would do the Legend.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'd do the Legend then. I would do the Legend.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. It's the legend, and it's a 24-month free replacement, that one?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
I'm one, I've said this many times on air, and I know NAPA's a great sponsor of ours. I'm not trying to take any money out of their pocket, but I'm not a guy that believes in buying 75-month, 84-month batteries. I don't think you get any more battery when it's all said and done. It's really a lot of marketing and what they're trying to get you to buy with warranty and so on. The actual battery itself, at the end of the day, John, I don't feel is any better than a 48-month battery is, for example. Would you agree with that, Josh?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they don't have anything better. They don't have anything longer than 36 months.
SPEAKER 22 :
That's fine.
SPEAKER 11 :
They only have two that are an AGM for that truck.
SPEAKER 22 :
You'd be fine with that. And I'm not an AGM fan, just as we've said that. Josh was saying that earlier, and I'm not either.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I've never had a vehicle that needed one, thank the Lord, because I'm looking at their website, and they are really expensive.
SPEAKER 22 :
You're $250-ish or so for an AGM, roughly?
SPEAKER 11 :
The cheapest one is $259, and the most expensive is $379. Yep. Yep. And then the Legend is $199, so that's a big difference. Huge. So you said gifts. Question of the day. I'm going to make a specific recommendation. Okay. The Nitecore NU-22 or 25 headlamp. This thing will give you so much light, and it's used by a lot of ultralight backpackers because it weighs like four ounces or something. It's a USB-C rechargeable. You can get it on Amazon for $40 or less, depending. Send me a link.
SPEAKER 22 :
I'll put that up on the website, John.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right.
SPEAKER 22 :
Send me the link, and I'll stick it up there for folks, all of you listening. We'll just put a link on the website for you, make it easy.
SPEAKER 11 :
I can do that. Yeah, but that headlamp, if you don't have one in your car, you need one in your car. Great idea.
SPEAKER 22 :
Even these guys' techs and stuff around the shop, headlamps are fabulous. Every toolbox, every backpack, every car has a headlamp.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 22 :
Only way to go.
SPEAKER 11 :
The other thing, John, if you know somebody who likes to work around the house and everything, I would say the best thing to give most men that need something is a Harbor Freight gift card. Not a bad idea. If you're not a professional mechanic or something, the tools they have there are just more than adequate for most people around the house. Whether you need a new drill or you need a new battery or you want a new blade for your table saw or something, you could save money by going there and would probably work just as well.
SPEAKER 22 :
For homeowners, absolutely. Can't disagree with that at all, John.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. Yep. All right, man. Send me the link.
SPEAKER 22 :
I'll put it on the website for everybody.
SPEAKER 11 :
I will.
SPEAKER 22 :
All right. Appreciate you, John, very much. Thank you for that. Paul, you're next. Go ahead, Paul.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. Good morning. How are you, John? Good, Paul. Hey, Josh, I got this 2004 Toyota Sequoia. You've had some time under the hood on this one.
SPEAKER 14 :
I know the car.
SPEAKER 12 :
That spark plug.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hey, so to start it up, I have a A fuel leak coming off up by the intake manifold. There's a fuel rail, and then there's a fuel regulator. A metal pipe comes out, connects to a rubber hose. The rubber hose goes down by the lower upper control arm. So that fuel hose, fuel supply, has an inner core that's hard plastic in it. It looks like it's been heat shrunk onto the metal tip of the hose, and I don't know how to fix it. It's squirting out right where the connection is, and I don't know if I can just hose clamp another fuel rubber hose on that, or I don't know how to. I don't have any way to heat shrink it. I don't know. Are you familiar...
SPEAKER 14 :
Am I kind of creating a picture that... Yeah, usually either we have to replace that as an assembly, or I have a kit that we can press new hose on. But it has to have a special tool so we can actually push the vinyl hose onto it and clamp it. So you usually can't push the vinyl by hand, unfortunately. I've never had much luck with pushing the vinyl by hand because it usually splits as I'm putting it on.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it's growing. Yeah, it's about a half, three-quarters of an inch that you'd have to push on there. So when you talk about an assembly, does that come with the fuel regulator, and then you have the high-pressure and the low-pressure lines coming off of that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, usually I don't have to replace these on the Toyotas that often. It's usually GMs and Fords that we have to deal with.
SPEAKER 12 :
Do you think, well... I don't know if I can... You can text... I don't know if I could get the... Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
If you want to text some pictures over to 303-442-4141, I can take a look at it and see.
SPEAKER 12 :
442-4141.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. It's Ridgeline's number. We can get text there, so that would be the easiest.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Yeah, if I... Yeah, I thought maybe I could get a hose clamp on there with some rubber hose enough to drive it over, but maybe not. I don't know, but I'll send you a couple pictures.
SPEAKER 14 :
That'll stop the major leak, but it's still going to seep. Every time I've tried to play that game, it just kind of seeps all the time, and that's right by the exhaust manifold, and we don't want hot gas hitting that exhaust manifold. It's just never been an effective repair. It's always been like a stopgap just to catch it down the road until we can fix it right.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, well, I'll send you some pictures and then. Do you think that's a part that you can still get from Toyota or Napa? I think so.
SPEAKER 14 :
Toyota now has like a, what do they call it? Toyota, I don't remember what they call it. Their vintage line or something? Their vintage line. Yeah, they actually have a vintage line. Because one of my employees, Christian, has an old Supra. Yeah. And we're able to get old Supra parts and Land Cruiser parts too. Well, they know there's a market there. Yeah, good to know. So they were able to keep these going. And the Sequoias and all those, there's still a lot of those on the road because they ran forever.
SPEAKER 12 :
Great idea.
SPEAKER 14 :
So I may be able to source it from vintage on that one. Good to know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. All right.
SPEAKER 22 :
Good to know. Good to hear. Paul, good. Appreciate you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you, John. You're very welcome. Thank you.
SPEAKER 22 :
Have a great rest of your day. We appreciate it very much. All right, let's get one more in before the break. Donato, am I saying that right? Donato? Donato, you're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, sir. Hey, John. I had a quick question. I have a GMC pickup truck, a 22, and I haven't got a notice, per se, in the mail yet. about the recall on the transmission differential yeah it's actually transmission valve body recalls what it is is it is it transmission okay yeah Somebody just, you know, the news feed that I get from Google and stuff, they're saying that the rear will lock up.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, yeah, what's happening is there's a problem with the valve body that will lock up the transmission, which then, of course, locks the driveline and the rear diff and so on. And that's what that recall is about, Donato.
SPEAKER 10 :
Do I need to get actually in the mail like a notice?
SPEAKER 22 :
You will. When it's time to be fixed, they will send you the recall, you know, to call the dealer and so on. You could do that now, although I will tell you I doubt, highly doubt, there's parts around to even fix that particular transmission. I'm going to talk about the Allison 10 speeds here at some point as well. Now, really quick, Donato, how many miles are on it?
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm under 40,000, about 39.
SPEAKER 22 :
Okay, what I would do, this is my suggestion. This isn't what GM will tell you, but it's what I'm going to tell you. Because, number one, I think some of these issues they've had with that transmission is higher miles and people not doing services on the transmission, which causes premature wear, making that valve stick, making things lock up, and so on. So my feeling is if you own one of these, until you can get it recalled, I would service the transmission now. make sure you do the bg system where you do the conditioner and everything in it and then drive it until you get the recall fixed but personally donato you do that you if you service that transmission regularly you probably would never have a problem and i know i'm kind of going out on a limb saying that because i'm not gm and there is a recall and so on i would still do the recall at some point but if you do what i'm telling you highly doubtful you'll have any major issues
SPEAKER 10 :
So every how often do you suggest? You're there now.
SPEAKER 22 :
Every 40K, I would do that transmission. You're there right now. 35 to 40, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I lost you there for a moment. What product do you suggest?
SPEAKER 22 :
You do the BG service, which they put a conditioner in on the front side. They condition it on the back side as well. It just makes things work a little better, I feel, when it's all said and done. And that's a complete fluid transfer. So we're not dropping the pan and just doing a drain and fill. That's a complete fluid system transfer.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Is there someone you recommend in the Colorado Springs area?
SPEAKER 22 :
Send me a text message. Yes, I have somebody, but since they're not a sponsor, I won't say it on air. Okay. Okay. So send me a text, and I'll tell you where to go. All right.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, Donato.
SPEAKER 22 :
Thank you very much. I appreciate it very much. All right, Mark, hang tight on oil interval question. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 22 :
And we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Again, Josh Goff from Legacy Auto up in Boulder, as well as Ridgeline Auto Brokers with us. Roy Dietze, both, and Roy's daughter's here as well from ProTech Auto Shield over in the Wheat Ridge area. So those of you especially that are, whether you're buying a new car or a new used car, you want to protect it, you want it to last as long as possible. And I will tell you straight up that by doing some of that protection, and Josh can attest this, when you go to sell that vehicle down the road because you've protected it and it doesn't have a bunch of nicks and dings and scratches and so on, what's the average value, Josh, higher when you do that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Probably 10, 15, maybe. In other words, you're getting it all back.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yep, you are. And having a nice car along the line.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 22 :
So, yeah, for those of you listening, it's well worth doing because Josh is attesting to the value of the car stays higher throughout by doing those things. People buy on the way the car looks. Amazing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
It's only one of those things we've talked about on the show for like 25 years, but yeah, it hasn't changed in 25 years.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's proof. They still buy based on looks. They base them. Not necessarily mechanical.
SPEAKER 15 :
What's that? Here's a question for Josh. So if you get a car that's completely wrapped, like you got a color change and it's fully wrapped, do you remove the wrap before you sell it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, we usually do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Just to see what's under there, too, you know? Make sure it's all good. Right, to make sure it's all good because sometimes you find it gets wrapped to hide things. Yes. Damage and such. Right, scratches, damage. Makes sense. Okay. I hadn't thought of that. That's okay. Good point.
SPEAKER 15 :
So you always remove the wrap.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and the wraps, they don't last that long, at least the ones we've had come in. It's like two, three years, it seems like, and that wrap's not doing too well. Okay, we can talk about that. And that's about the time they trade them in, is after the wrap's about that old, because they probably wrapped it when it was new, and they're done with it and want a new toy.
SPEAKER 22 :
Mark in Denver, you're next. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. How are you? Good morning, Mark. Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 09 :
I had a question. Merry Christmas to you. I had a question, please. I might... 2018 towel, I got 38,000 miles on it now. I did an oil change a while back, and I put 600 miles on that oil change. I changed it over to 4,000 miles with synthetic. I looked at the oil percentage left, and it's at 76% with like 400 or 500 miles on it. So that's 25% of that oil life gone in 500, 600 miles. I don't understand that. And it was reset at 100%.
SPEAKER 22 :
Because it's an algorithm. They're just basing that on time is what they're doing, Mark. So they're going to clock you down typically to where they want to see you change that oil at least once a year. So they're going to clock that down accordingly.
SPEAKER 09 :
So it's a time segment.
SPEAKER 22 :
It's a lot. It's more than that. It's a lot of things.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it's time, how you drive, how it gets up to op temp, if it doesn't get up to op temp.
SPEAKER 22 :
How aggressive you are in driving. What speed are you going? What gear are you in mostly? On and on and on.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, if you're flooring it and jamming on the brakes, it's going to go quick. If you're a slow driver and it always gets up to op temp and all these things. Highway driver, et cetera. Highway driver, you give it a lot more life. Right. Okay.
SPEAKER 22 :
There's a misconception, Mark. People think there's some sort of sensor in the oil that's telling the computer that, hey, I need change. No, no. It's a computer algorithm, and that's why as time has gone by, they've gotten better and better and better because computer programming, of course, as you know, Mark, continues to improve. But it's all based upon what a programmer is inputting as to these are the things that we're reading, and based on that, we're going to do this percentage of oil life.
SPEAKER 09 :
So it's a shelf life situation of time then too.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, like me, they're wanting you to change that at least annually once a year.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I do that religiously anyway, but I just was wondering why it's dropping at that rate.
SPEAKER 22 :
Because I've noticed the same thing, Mark. I've got similar vehicles where they don't get 1,000 miles a year on them. I'm not exaggerating. Yeah, same thing will happen. Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, well, that explains that.
SPEAKER 22 :
I'm not going to worry about it. No, the way I know you and how you handle things, and I'm one where I will look at that periodically just to kind of see what it says, but I pretty much ignore it and do my own thing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, synthetic every four, and that's not pushing it at all.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, in my case, on my truck I drive daily, my ZR2 with the 6.2, I'll be changing that when it says 50%, but that's just because I'm doing it at 4K. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Well, thank you very much for that answer. I appreciate it. Have a good day. You too, Mark.
SPEAKER 22 :
Appreciate you very much. And Mark's a longtime caller. I've met him at some of our events that we've had in the past, and I know him very well, so I can say that. But, yeah, there is a misconception for a lot of you that have those oil monitors, which by now, Josh, since the fleet's about 14 years of age, granted, that's an average, so there's cars that are older and, of course, newer. But if you're driving a car 14 years or newer, there's an oil life monitor.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, pretty much everything.
SPEAKER 22 :
There's hardly any that – I can't think of any that wouldn't have one at that point.
SPEAKER 14 :
It seems like the 2010s it all came on somewhere in there.
SPEAKER 22 :
And some were earlier than that even that they were starting to develop and so on. And, again, folks, for those of you listening, they have improved. The algorithms continue to get better to where they're taking, again, more – more inputs. I will tell you that some of those early monitors were more off of mileage and time as they were, you know, really anything else. They really didn't factor in a lot of how you drove and, you know, the fuel trims and different things along those lines. But now they are. I mean, it knows the fuel trim. It knows is it running rich most of the time? Is it more lean majority of the time? Are you in, you know, if it's a Eight-speed transmission, are you running around in eighth or are you running around in fifth and sixth? It knows these things, and it is determining even pedal position on the accelerator pedal. Where are you at most of the time? How fast do you get into the pedal, et cetera? It's reading all of those things, and as Josh said a moment ago, even the operating temperature. Do you come up to temperature every time you drive it? Are you somebody going to the grocery store and back that's a mile away? You're actually going to see your oil life be less than somebody driving to work every day, miles on yeah and it knows your altitude and it knows your outside temperature too that's true too yeah i forgot about that even the temps it doesn't which it'll it'll factor all of that in now i say all that to say this is that the bible no Do we still, as a show and as shops, recommend that you follow a regimen for you and how you drive and where you drive and what you do and the type of car you're driving and some of the known history that those particular vehicles and engines may have, direct injection engines especially? We're going to tell you 4,000 to 5,000 miles pretty much regardless of what you're doing and how you're driving. If you're a little bit more aggressive, we might even bump that up ever so slightly. And, again, you're liable to be changing oil literally, Josh, when the monitor is at 40%, 50%.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, all the time.
SPEAKER 22 :
It's going to be very common to do that.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is.
SPEAKER 22 :
So do not run off the oil life monitor is my point. I mean, it's a nice guide. If all of a sudden you're normally that 4,000-mile person that changes at 4,000 miles, all of a sudden the oil life monitor is at zero and it was reset the last time around, well, you you may want to look at that and say, you know, why is that? Chances of that happening are pretty slim, although there are some vehicles where you may actually see that happening. Also, one of the things I've gotten a few text messages on of late, there are some engines that have some oil consumption issues. Subaru, and I can go down the line. And the rule of thumb, and it's been this way, by the way, in the auto industry since I was a kid, and I'm not exaggerating, the majority of OEMs, if not all, will not mess with oil consumption until you get below 800 to 1,000 miles quart used. And some people look at me and think, you're crazy. No, I'm telling you, from the inside out on the OEM side, unless you're using more than a quart in 1,000 miles roughly, and some are 800 miles, they will not think about doing anything to address that oil consumption in that engine because they call that normal.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that's Subaru, Honda.
SPEAKER 22 :
I grew up in the GM world, and it was that way for the GM side forever and still is. It is to this day. So for those of you that are listening, if you think that I'm using a cord every 2,000 miles and they ought to go ahead and fix my engine or replace it, it ain't going to happen.
SPEAKER 14 :
They won't touch that.
SPEAKER 22 :
It is not going to happen. So advice would be on some of these vehicles where we know we use oil, check them because most don't. Mm-hmm. So food for thought. We'll come back and talk more about that two more hours. Lines are open. Give us a call, 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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