A lively discussion unfolds as Dr. Kelly Victory joins John Rush to analyze Trump's new appointments, with a focus on the controversial pick of RFK Jr. as the Director of Health and Human Services. The conversation moves from political strategy to the lingering effects of the COVID era and how these new appointments plan to address past missteps. Listeners weigh in with questions about health, governance, and Dr. Kelly offers insights into what the future holds for American healthcare and political accountability.
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All right. Happy Thursday. Welcome. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And with the results that we keep having roll in, it is a very happy Thursday. Dr. Kelly Victory with us today. Steve House was planning on being here, Dr. Kelly, but he is a little under the weather, let's just say.
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Exactly. And I'm sorry that he's missing this. I'm with you, John. I feel like we are watching the NFL draft pick here in rapid succession. Trump is announcing those people who he's going to point to these key cabinet positions. I would love to hear Steve's input on some of those. So we'll have to revisit this next week when we've got some additional players on the roster. But so far, so good for certain. Yeah. looking like it's going to be just a stunningly strong team. I've got to tell you, the hammer of justice is about to fall, I feel. It looks to me like Trump is putting in place some people who do not intend to screw around here. They mean business. They are going to hold people accountable. And I think I'm hoping they keep on with this same kind of head of steam, this real urgency. They are wasting no time. And I think come January, they should be able to hit the ground running.
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Tell you what, he is doing some things on the front side. I talked about this a little bit yesterday where he is really dialed in compared to where he was the last year. That's what the last term I should say. That's where having some experience, Dr. Kelly, four years of which, again, goes back to your experience and what you do. And for those of you listening, if you've not heard. Dr. Kelly before. Now, in a lot of cases, you guys are tuning in from all over the country to hear Dr. Kelly victory. And those of you that do, you know, you can go to the website RushToReason.com. You can find a complete page dedicated to Dr. Kelly and all the work that she's done up to this point. She's been on with us since August of 2020. So it's been over four years now. Dr. Kelly, by the way, and this I hope to hope to say this in the right way. It doesn't seem that long.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I agree. It's amazing. The time has flown by when you think about how much of our lives has been consumed. And for you and me, it's a little bit different, John. Think about somebody who's, say, 20 years old. or in their early teens, the years of COVID, that era represents a large percentage of their lives. You know, 20, 25% of their lives were spent during this dystopian debacle that was COVID. So I certainly am hoping that those same people and ourselves included are looking forward to not just four years later, But hopefully eight or 12 years of really good times, good economic times, strong national sovereignty, patriotism, return to the rule of law, the sorts of things that we enjoyed previously as Americans. And so I am really energized by the rapidity with which Trump has come out of the box and is appointing people, really strong people. Again, there are a few jobs in this world, and mine as a trauma physician is certainly amongst them, where you don't have the time, the luxury to sit around and cogitate and wait and weigh things on, sort of get into analysis paralysis. I think that's sort of what hamstrung Trump the first time around is he really was slow. And many of them are in appointing people and getting stuff done. This time, I think Donald Trump has figured out there is not a minute to waste. We've got to get this ship right. Absolutely. We need to do it fast.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. No, you are a thousand percent correct on everything you just said. Those of you listening, I have a question that did already come in. But if you've got questions specifically for Dr. Kelly, we'll take a break and come back and ask some of those here in just a few minutes. But if you've got a question, the text line 307. 307-200-8222. Again, 307-200-8222. You can send me a message and we'll get that answered as well. Okay, one of the things, Dr. Kelly, we talked about even last week, weren't sure exactly how it was going to pan out, but it looks like on X that President Trump has announced that RFK Jr. will, in fact, be the HHS director.
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Yes, and I think that was much anticipated by those of us who had been following along and certainly those of us who know Bobby Kennedy. And I think that that is a really great position for him. In some ways, it's a more powerful position than Homeland Security or Secretary of State or, you know, these people going to the U.N. or wherever else. HHS oversees so many entities. It's the FDA agency. and the NIH, and the CDC, but also Medicare and Medicaid. So many huge healthcare and public health entities report under that one umbrella. And so I think that Robert Kennedy Jr. is the perfect person to do that. He is the definition of czar. He's got the ability intellectually and physically from just an energy standpoint to keep a lot of plates spinning. He can manage a lot of entities. Hopefully he will surround himself with the right people. And I think he can make a huge impact there. And I think also play a role in fixing the systematic issues we have with our food system, food additives, our overall ill health as a nation.
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You know, it's funny, you see, for those of you, maybe you haven't seen this, but I have. I'm sure you have, too, Dr. Kelly, where you see some of the current folks in health and human services compared to RFK Jr., and there is a stark contrast to the individuals themselves that are serving in those positions.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. It's not only in the fact that so many of the people in health and human services are not exactly, shall we say, walking the walk. Many of them are morbidly obese, sedentary people with their own raft of health care issues. But they also are people who have spent far too much of their careers focusing on things that have nothing to do with their core mandate, meaning things like DEI. You know, I heard somebody in the current, meaning the Biden administration for FEMA after the horrific incident. storms that happened in the Carolinas and in Florida, saying things like, we're really focusing on equity in disaster response. I don't even know what that would mean, equity in disaster response, and I'm a disaster response specialist. But people focusing on DEI, you know, LGBTQ, whatever it is, gender affirming issues or the whole gender conversation, equity. These are things that do not belong, certainly, in these different organizations or they certainly aren't their core focus. So Robert Kennedy Jr., I am certain that. will bring a breath of fresh air and a lot of good initiatives to HHS.
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Question just came in. This one is right along the lines of what we're talking about. Will Trump and RFK Jr., and it's really not so much an RFK Jr. thing, although he could be a part of it. In other words, will this administration hold Fauci accountable?
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You know, it's a great question, and I certainly hope so. It won't be RFK himself specifically. It is likely to be, however, somebody like a Matt Gaetz. If Matt Gaetz is sworn in as attorney general, you better believe, I think, that Matt Gaetz will hold him accountable. And I think that many of the people in Congress are saying, you know, I've heard many people, including Matt Gaetz, saying, You know, you shouldn't take that. Anthony Fauci should not take a job with some new pharmaceutical company or some new independent company because he's going to be tied up answering and testifying in front of Congress for a good long time. I think they intend to hold his feet to the fire. I certainly hope they do. I am advocating for that, and I hope that ultimately some people will actually be charged criminally. That's what should happen. We know that Anthony Fauci and a whole lot of other people, whether it's Rochelle Walensky or Deborah Birx or Rick Bright and any number of these people, Absolutely lied, perjured themselves, hid data, were participant in the fraud that was COVID. They lied about everything from the safety, efficacy and necessity of the, quote, vaccines to the made up idea of social distancing, the necessity of lockdown, school closures, you name it. The idea of asymptomatic spread. All of this was a big fat lie. And these people need to be held accountable because they destroyed the lives and livelihoods of millions of people.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. And by the way, I can't disagree with anything you just said. I think you are spot on. Question I have, this is my personal question, and we've talked about this in the past. It's been brought up even publicly. There's been some folks, RFK Jr. and others, that have even talked about publicly, podcasts and so on, about the royalties that government workers will receive. Thank you very much. IBM owns the patent. You do not. You are getting a paycheck to work for IBM. Therefore, all of that belongs to IBM. Why in the world do we allow this system to happen inside of NIH, and will this administration fix that?
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Well, I certainly hope they'll fix it. You're right. I mean, it's absolutely insanity that this has been allowed to go on.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's absolutely garbage. That money should come back to taxpayers, Dr. Kelly. We're paying for it in the first place. It should not be going back to these individuals.
SPEAKER 10 :
Of course. I mean, it is absolute insanity that, you know, Anthony Fauci should be able to hold a patent, should be able to own a patent on a drug or therapeutic that he is then in a position to mandate or suggest should be given to all of humanity. Huge conflict of interest. Talk about a conflict of interest. That's right. I mean, this is, you can't enter a sweepstakes situation You know, for Arby's, if you or if you're an employee members work for Arby's. Right. Right. You've got to fill out the thing that says I don't work there and neither do my family members. And, you know, because Dr. Kelly really along those lines really quick.
SPEAKER 12 :
There are things that I will even get. Surveys and things along those lines, contests, whatever, that just because I'm a, even though I don't consider myself a journalist or a part of media, I am. And there are certain things that I can't participate in along those same lines for that very reason. The reality is it's a conflict of interest and it shouldn't be allowed in the first place.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly, and if nothing else, because what we call the optics are bad. It doesn't look good. That's right. If you participate in something, it's a sweepstakes or a lottery or whatever it is, and you win and you work for them, everybody's going to want to say, did somebody throw it for John Rush?
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That's right.
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Did somebody on the inside arrange for their buddy to win? The optics are bad, and if you want people to have confidence in our election system or confidence in the way that drugs are developed, confidence in the fact that the FDA or the CDC or the NIH are saying something is safe and effective and necessary and this is a good drug, then you can't have the people saying it be on the receiving end of the largesse or the benefits. It would be like when you go to Yelp to read a review on something, you don't read reviews that are posted by the manufacturer themselves. If I want to buy a Samsung television, I don't go and read reviews written by Samsung. I read independent ones. We need independence. It all comes down to independence, and we have not had that. It's been going on for decades. And certainly Robert Kennedy Jr. is aware of it. I think more and more people, even the average physician, hopefully is now aware of this horrific conflict of interest. And it must absolutely be eliminated day one.
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All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory joining us today. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. And Dr. Kelly, I had several text messages rolling in, you know, a thousand percent agreeing with what we're talking about. Some going as far as to say we should go back in time and even pull back some of the, you know, confiscate some of those royalties that have been paid. I'm not sure we could ever do that. But the reality is it needs to be stopped moving forward.
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Absolutely. And it's done, you know, in addition to the fact that it's just, you know, completely immoral and unethical. It has done so much to undermine the confidence that people have in these agencies. Nobody I completely understand why nobody would listen to anybody who wears a, quote, public health hat. uh at this point right now after the buffoonery that went on during covid and now understanding how absolutely morally bereft these people are the fact that they have taken these royalties they've been paid insane amounts of money You know, Anthony Fauci was the highest paid individual in our government. Now he's retired. He's still getting $350,000 a year as a pension. Plus, it's my understanding, millions of dollars a year worth of security, transportation, limousines, all of these things. If we're doing what, I don't know. Apparently, perpetrating crimes against humanity is lucrative. Yeah, there you go. But... You know, I agree with whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, whatever listeners are saying, you know, I don't think, unfortunately, that the way our system works, we'd be able to get those things back because they were allowed technically by our own government. But we have got to reverse it immediately if we ever have one of those hopes of regaining confidence.
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Absolutely. There's much more to talk about. Let's squeeze a question in before we move on. Been taking the antivirals echinacea and quercetin that I've learned about from Dr. Kelly on your show. I have a question. I was recently prescribed the drug and I'll not pronounce this right. X-A-R-E-L-T-O. Xeralto? Am I saying that right? Xeralto. Okay.
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Xeralto, yeah.
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Xeralto. And echinacea, and it has indications it could possibly interact poorly with that drug, so I stopped taking it. I cannot find anything about quercetin interacting badly with that drug in any of the reliable sources, but my pharmacist, who cannot stand herbal medications and herbal supplements, herbal anything, and tries to vaccinate me every time she sees me, says I shouldn't be taking quercetin with that drug. I was wondering if Dr. Kelly could give me answers, yay or nay, on this and or point me in the right direction to find a solid answer.
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I am unaware of any interaction with quercetin and any of those drugs. Quercetin is a naturally occurring compound. You simply can't get enough of it through normal dietary sources, namely fruits and vegetables. So we recommend that people take it in an encapsulated supplement form. It's a strong antioxidant of itself and helps with overall immune function. I am unaware of any interaction with that, although I haven't done an exhaustive search.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, we're really quick to stop for just one moment. I mean, why would something that's natural that you're talking about right now have any ill effect anyways? I guess personally as just a layman that kind of knows a little bit about some of this stuff, I would be confused as to why that would be the case in the first place.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, there are some things, for example, even something as simple as grapefruit juice is not to be taken with certain medications. There are certain medications, in particular blood thinners, for example, that can be enhanced by certain things, even though those certain things are natural, say a food or something of that sort. But I am not aware of quercetin by itself having that side effect. So I would ask what I would suggest, and I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I would go back to that same pharmacist and in a non-accusatory way say, could you direct me to the literature? Show me. Good point. Show me. If I shouldn't take it, can you show me what it is because I'm unable to find that. and ask that person to show you. Because I think that at some point, and I have my own physician friends, personal physicians, that roll their eyes or say no to certain things that I suggest. And I say, really, show me. And believe me, you never get the study. You never get an article. You never get a theory.
SPEAKER 12 :
So some of that, because, you know, Dr. Kelly, as you know, I'm from the auto world, the car world, and so on. And I had... a conversation this last Saturday on air with a particular listener because in the auto world right now, even just something as simple as an oil change, you can get all sorts of different feedback from the dealer, from certain independent shops, and, by the way, from the owner's manual. And sometimes they may all disagree. Of course, owner's manual should be, in a lot of ways, the viable, not that it's always correct. There's some things with it that can even be off. But, you know, I think every industry, here's my point, every industry I think at times struggles with, past perceptions of things, and even when something new comes along, they have a hard time adjusting to what's happening. I'm guessing the same thing can happen in your world.
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Without a question, and there are many people who feel that. I think that supplements and naturopathic medicine and alternative medicine has gotten a bad rap over the years because You know, many times because people threw in the kitchen sink and it is hard to sort out what's real and what's snake oil, meaning what is just pure, you know, junk. But the reality is a lot of people who trained in mainstream medicine and that includes pharmacists are not up themselves personally on some of these natural medications. And therefore, it's just easier to say no. No. Here's what I studied in pharmacy school. Here's what they taught me in medical school. They didn't talk about the use of mushrooms. They didn't talk about berberine. They didn't teach me about quercetin. So it's easier for me just to remain the expert and say, no, don't take that. So there's no question that medications like Xarelto, which happens to be an anticoagulant, it's a blood thinner.
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Okay.
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there are things that can interfere with that. I am unaware personally, as I said, of quercetin being one of those things. So I would ask that pharmacist to show me because if it's the case, then great, we should know that. But I fear that too many times, and I know because as I said, my own, you know, I'm a doctor, but I go to doctors. I still am a patient and I have my own team of physicians. And many times they will say, just without even thinking, not worth it. You know, no data that that works. You know what I'm saying? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's actually a lot of data that this works. And so I'm a big believer. I take a tremendous number of supplements myself, a number of things that are over the counter. And it is everything from mushrooms to berberine and magnesium. I take a lot of quercetin and zinc and I supplement vitamin D. I take ashwagandha, lots of different things. And some of them. Hang on.
SPEAKER 12 :
I got to start from you're an MD also, right?
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Oh, 100 percent. Yeah.
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My point is there's a lot of folks out there, I think, even in the medical world that would say to your point earlier, well, why are you doing all of that? I mean, literally, because I've heard some of these doctors over the years, Dr. Kelly, you know, to validate even what you've said. I've heard some of them say that exact same thing that, you know, well, you're just wasting your money. You're peeing. You're peeing them all out anyways. Why does it matter?
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Right. Exactly. And it's because it's almost as if if they acknowledge that there are other things out there besides their specialty, they will somehow be less important or or less, you know, whatever value, you know, less, less important. you know, needed, which is silly because there are many, many things. I, you know, I am half Western trained physician, half shaman. I believe very much in alternative therapies and in the fact that we really need to be looking at overall health and wellness and all the things that will keep us well in our diets and And that includes a lot of things that aren't by prescription. So, again, as I said, I am unaware of something, of Quercetin interacting with Xarelto. But if I were this individual, I would specifically ask the pharmacist before I just gave up taking the Quercetin because I think there are good health benefits. I would simply say, can you point me to that literature? Can you point me to it so that I can read about it?
SPEAKER 12 :
OK, that dovetails me into another question that I wasn't necessarily going to ask, but this sort of got my mind thinking and sort of brings up. I think to your point, Dr. Killing, correct me if I'm wrong, but from the top down, I mean, everything from in D.C. around the Beltway, pharmaceutical companies, lobbyists and so on. There really is this anti-anything-that's-not-a-pill-I-pop that's prescribed to me by a doctor and fulfilled by a pharmacist. There's this aura, this mentality, if you would, around the Beltway that all those guys are snake oil salesmen. None of them are any good. And by the way, maybe some of them aren't. But this whole let's-throw-the-baby-out-with-the-bathwater thing, do you feel like because of that, that now that some of this stuff's going to get fixed with RFK Jr. now being in charge of HHS, do you feel like some of that might change?
SPEAKER 10 :
I certainly hope so. I really do. I think that we're starting down a new era. In many ways, as painful... as the last four and a half years were with COVID, I think a lot of people's eyes were opened. We saw behind the curtain. Many people have, you know, we've exposed the soft underbelly of the entire, you know, biomedical pharmaceutical complex and seen where the graft, the fraud, the corruption lay. And not all of it, I'm sure, but a healthy portion of it. So I think a lot of people's eyes were opened due to this as painful as it was. And people are ready to have a new, not only a new guard in charge, but really to look at things, I think, a bit differently. I'm happy that people have eyes. a very healthy skepticism now of pharmaceutical companies. I'm happy that people are saying, wait a minute, you know what? I might just not sign up for those vaccines. Whatever vaccine. Hey, you know what? I might not take your statin drug.
SPEAKER 12 :
Or at least, Dr. Kelly, stop long enough to do more research like what you and I just talked about for the past 10 minutes. Even if they just... take a step back and say, hang on, where's your literature around all of this? Where before, honestly, Dr. Kelly, and I think I'm as guilty as anybody of this, prior to 2020, if somebody said do this, you did that. You never questioned it. Now we're questioning it. That's a good thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's a very good thing, and there's an awful lot of hype. Certainly money drives so much of this. We have an entire – Sections of grocery stores, pages of menus that are dedicated to gluten free. OK, I'm here to tell you there are certain individuals who are gluten sensitive and there are certain people with celiac disease.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is a fraction of a percent. OK, most people are not do not have a gluten issue. There are many other reasons to avoid processed food.
SPEAKER 12 :
They may have a gut issue or things along those lines, but they may not be as sensitive to that as they think. It's what's going on inside of their bodies. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct. Correct. And it's just that we have made an industry out of it. created an industry out of it you know there's you look at every package and it stands you know non-gmo non this and the funny thing about that dr kelly's it'll say non-gmo and a product that never has gmos in the first place correct or they wouldn't have gluten in it in the first place you get a bag of carrots and it says gluten-free i'm like of course it's gluten-free carrots right um right but but you know or but but if i ask people they'll say oh great because it's non-gmo and if i ask 98% of people, what does that mean to be non-GMO? And why is that a good thing or a bad thing?
SPEAKER 12 :
And by the way, can you roll off the labels or the products in the food, I should say? Can you roll off the food in the United States of America that's only GMO or that can be GMO in the first place? Because the reality is I rolled by a peach stand the other day and on it said non-GMO. And Dr. Kelly, I did the research on this one. Peaches don't have GMO anyways. That was 100% false marketing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, bottom line is there's a lot of things about genetically modified organisms that are great. I mean, we genetically modify something so that they're more pest resistant and you can use less pesticides.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
We genetically modify something so that it produces more fruit.
SPEAKER 12 :
In other words, it's not always bad like what some people think.
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct. So, for example, the same people who are buying non-GMO Cheerios are also people buying Eglin's Best Eggs because they have a higher percentage of omega-3 or good fats in the yolk. How do you think they got it that way? They genetically modified those chickens.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm just telling you that at some point, we have got to stop the hype. People have got to get Be educated, be thoughtful, and don't be doing things because people who stand to make money from you doing it are telling you to do it.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory with us. This is our last segment, so if you've got a question for Dr. Kelly, please text it in, 307-200-8222. Dr. Kelly, again, personal question of mine, mainly because I've, you know, talking to you over all these years, Steve as well, also listening to a lot of what RFK Jr. and some others have said. You know, as you know, we, along with New Zealand, only two countries in the world, in the world, for all of you listening, all of the other countries, the, you know... 100 plus other countries that are out there that have television, media and so on. We are the only two countries that allow drug ads, Dr. Kelly. Do you see RFK Jr. and now the Trump administration controlling House and Senate being able to pass a law, which I'm not a big law guy, but this one I would be in. I'd be very much in favor of getting rid of those dang ads.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I've spoken about this specifically with Robert Kennedy Jr. And yes, I know that he agrees. with you and with me that we have got to eliminate television advertising for pharmaceutical companies uh there's a reason why all of the other countries in the world with the exception of us and new zealand don't allow them and to be very clear the reason pharmaceutical companies advertise on tv Isn't because they think for their millions, you know, they'll sell an extra dose or two of Ozempic. They do it so that they can control the media. They do it because they are the big advertiser. They give the money. Thank you. Then the people on the shows, the you know, the it's the power of the purse, right? Anger. Correct. And so Robert Ailes, excuse me, Roger Ailes, the former CEO of Fox News, said previously that he wanted to eliminate pharmaceutical advertising on Fox News, but he couldn't afford to do it because they represented 70% of the advertising dollars for Fox News. I mean, that speaks, but there's also a reason why for the duration of the pandemic, you didn't hear any of their hosts I thought, you know, certainly on MSNBC, CNN or elsewhere, but also on Fox saying anything vaguely critical about the vaccines, for example. They won't do it and they can't. They're told not to because of the big advertising dollars. They don't want to lose that. So if you eliminate that, you eliminate the control. that the pharmaceutical companies have over the media. And we can begin to get back to honesty and integrity and allowing the American public to get access to the real data, the actual facts about any particular product.
SPEAKER 12 :
I again, you know, my feelings on this. I think that would be a very bold move on the part of this administration. I think it would set the tone for a lot of things moving forward. And, you know, as well as I that, you know, would this be a guarantee that on down the road, this would never come back? I mean, I get it. You could relobby, get a new administration in and so on. Although, Dr. Kelly, I think Donald Trump, this is when to get your opinion on this. You get enough things done. And no, folks, it's not four years. It's two because you're only you potentially if you don't do things correctly in the first two, you may not have the second two because of the way the shift in the House can work. Dr. Kelly, as you know, and traditionally speaking, there is a shift in that midterm election against you as a president, not the other way around. Although, if you get in there and really do some of the things even that you and I are talking about where you eliminate some of these paybacks that some of these employees are getting and give that money back to the general populace – and by the way, that could be something that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy work on, by the way, when you talk about government efficiency and doing something with those dollars. I mean, reality is you get in there, really clean some things up. get some things handled, eliminate some of the stuff that you and I just talked about in regards to drug ads and others, and really clean things up, you have a pretty good chance of probably keeping your midterm election strong in your favor.
SPEAKER 10 :
I agree with you. And some of these things are very difficult and will take a long time. You know, ridding out the bad actors in an agency can take some time. That's a counter-distinction, John, doing something like repealing the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that was passed in 1986, the law that Congress passed that gives blanket liability protection, blanket immunity to the pharmaceutical manufacturers, those people who make vaccines. Repealing that could happen with a stroke of a pen. Putting the pharmaceutical companies on notice that from this point, This point forward, if there's a bad event from somebody who takes your shot, you are liable. You can be held liable in a criminal case. You can be liable financially, blah, blah, blah. I guarantee that those sorts of things that could be done quickly will absolutely, I think, garner tremendous support for Donald Trump and for his new administration because people are really hungry for that.
SPEAKER 12 :
What else do you feel? We've got about five minutes or so left where then I have to let you go. This hour just screams by for all of you listening. Again, we've been doing this for four-plus years, and it just rolls by so quickly, Dr. Kelly. I learn something new every single week. But when it comes to this particular office, HHS, RFK Jr., you know him as well as probably anybody I've ever talked to. What are some of the other things that you feel are a big deal to him he's going to want to accomplish pretty quickly?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think, again, with regard to pharmaceutical companies, I think he will disarticulate, eliminate, end, one way or another, the contributions that those companies make to the medical journals. Because right now our medical journals are absolutely not to be trusted. I don't care if it's JAMA, Lancet, New England Journal. What they are publishing is nothing more than the marketing for big pharma. We cannot trust the studies. because big pharma is paying for them. Robert Kennedy would attack that. He would attack the fact that the pharmaceutical companies are supporting our scientific labs, quote unquote, so that whatever the research is that's getting pumped out of Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Duke, whatever it is, we can't trust it. We need to be able to trust it. And the only way that happens is if the pharmaceutical companies aren't involved. He would address that. I think bringing back, we've got to, believe it or not, you wouldn't know it after these four years, medicine actually has a code of ethics. Code of Ethics that has four pillars, the first of which is autonomy. The first pillar is autonomy, which starts with the ability for you to make every decision regarding what you do or don't do for yourself medically. So the end of mandates, I think you will really address the idea that we cannot ever allow people to be mandated to participate in a medical procedure or to take a therapeutically or drug of any sort. These are the sorts of things that I think Robert Kennedy will do. Hand in hand with that is informed consent. I think we can never allow, and I know that Bobby agrees, we can never allow what happened with regard to the lack of informed consent during COVID to happen again. That is something that resulted in tremendous harms. So we've got to get back to our basics, back to the four pillars of medical ethics, And I think that Robert Kennedy Jr. is the perfect person to lead that charge.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think, and this is something everybody has to realize, you take what he's going to do with HHS, and then you throw, again, that other office that I was just talking about, DOGE, Department of Government Efficiency, you take those two guys working alongside him on some of the very things that you just talked about a moment ago. I tell you what, if personally, Dr. Kelly, yeah, there's a lot of things in government we should look at, Department of Education, et cetera. I mean, we can go down the list. But everything you just said, if I were those three guys, along with Donald Trump, there is a plethora of things you could work on right out of the chute and start cleaning things up and save budgetary money right off the top.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my gosh. They should eliminate. I see absolutely zero rationale for having a federal Department of Education.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
The Department of Education was founded in 1979. I graduated from high school before we had a Department of Education, and I somehow managed to do pretty darn well. Since we've had a Department of Education, high school graduation rates are in the gutter. We score way down the totem pole in terms of where we stand against other countries, including our foes like China. So eliminate that. Send those monies back to the state. Each state can decide what they need to do in their state. What they need in Mississippi is different from what they need in Ohio. They can figure it out. That's what states are for. Get rid of it. You would eliminate so much waste and fraud right there. The IRS, same thing. All of those 80,000 additional people who were hired.
SPEAKER 12 :
Put them on the border, somebody said the other day here on air, Dr. Kelly. To me, you know what, you signed up to carry a gun for the IRS, you can go to the border with one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. Exactly. You know, put them to work. Right. What they're doing right now is doing nothing more than hassling taxpaying American citizens, from what I can tell. You know, so there's so many things where very, very quickly we could unwind some of the waste and fraud. Absolutely. And I certainly am hoping that that happens. It's an exciting time. It's also a treacherous time. Keep your eyes open.
SPEAKER 12 :
Honestly, Dr. Kelly, you have about 18 months to really do the things necessary before a lot of these congressmen will have to run for reelection and or even new elections to take over additional seats, which, again, if you do this correctly, you could have a majority, a real good majority in the House if you do this right and really show people, hey, we are out for you, the American people, not big pharma, not big insurance and not big government.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no, no question. There's a tremendous amount that can happen. It's all very positive. I think that people need to keep their eyes open. However, particularly between now and the inauguration there, the Democrats are not happy about that. Many of them are scared to death about the concept, for example, of a Matt Gaetz election. sitting in the office of the Attorney General because he's going to pull no punches. Having people like Pete Hegseth in place, these people mean business, and the Democrats aren't happy about it. And we've seen from the past that they will stop at nothing to try to bring Donald Trump down. So I pray every night for the safety of Donald Trump, for those around him, for cooler heads to prevail during all of this. And for there to be an actual peaceful transition of power, we need to get through January without any major meltdowns. And then I think we're on the road to some very, very good times for this country.
SPEAKER 12 :
Amen. I cannot disagree with any of that. Again, all of you listening, Dr. Kelly Victory, you can find everything about her. We've got an entire page dedicated on our website, RushToReason.com. You can find her there. And for the questions, by the way, there's a lot of times where, especially as we go through the holidays, there may be, for example, Thanksgiving Day, where you might even be listening to us on Thanksgiving Day in this very program. Not sure exactly how I'm going to do all of that. But if you are and you still have questions, please text me. I'll do my best to get those answered, even on the weeks where we don't happen to be here because of the holidays. Again, 307-200-8222. But, Dr. Kelly, I will let you go. I know you have another commitment. Thank you so much for what you've done for us over the last four-plus years. I was telling somebody before coming on air today, it's an honor to know you. We are very thankful to have the partnership with you that we have.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, thank you for allowing me the platform, John. I think it has been really meaningful and impactful. And in the meantime, have a blessed and delicious and restful Thanksgiving holiday. I hope that it's great. And we will talk, I guess, the week after. That's right. Two weeks after. That's right. That's right. Dr. Kelly, again, thank you.
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All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Leighton Gray joining us now. Welcome back, Leighton. How are you?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm well, thanks. It's great to be on the show again.
SPEAKER 16 :
I appreciate it. Host of the Gray Matter podcast. You're also senior fellow for the Frontier Center for Public Policy. Talk to us about Trudeau. And he's bringing back a cabinet committee meeting addressing the relations between the U.S. now that Trump won.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so for the benefit of your listeners, essentially the Trudeau government is a Chinese client state. Since coming to power in 2015, they've been up to all the same stuff that the Democrats have been in the United States, only it's progressed very, very quickly because there's not as much opposition to it that's happened in the U.S.
SPEAKER 16 :
You don't have the same checks and balances, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Unfortunately, right now, we've got a coalition government that gets to do pretty much whatever it wants. However, the good news is he is the least popular prime minister in the history of our country. Even his own party wants him gone. And they're very, very worried about Donald Trump. You might recall back in February of 2022, when the truckers convoy got broken up in a very totalitarian, authoritarian way. Donald Trump was at CPAC and he said, you know, when he becomes president again, he's going to free Canada from this authoritarian, totalitarian dictator. They never got along very great previously. I don't think Trump has a lot of respect for Justin Trudeau.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I agree with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's interesting, earlier in the year when it was clear that Donald Trump was going to be the Republican nominee, Trudeau actually sequestered his cabinet for three days, worried about whether or not he would win. And recently he did likewise once more. So I think that... I think that the winds have changed. You know, there used to be an old joke, William Williams used to joke that Canada was a loft apartment over a great party. But, you know, there's a lot of lawmakers in the U.S. who are looking at Canada and saying, does Canada pose a geopolitical threat to the safety and security of of the United States because of its deep infiltration by China.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm going to stop you for a minute there, Leighton, because as an American, I've had even kids, family living in Canada at one time, had a son-in-law in Canada. So I know a little bit about what goes on up there, not near as much, of course, as you do. But what I would say as an American, several years ago, I would have said, what's the risk of – Canada doing anything. I mean, that's about as friendly of a country as you could ever imagine, and I can't think of anything ever happening in that way. Today, though, Leighton, I will agree with those that would say, yeah, given what you're talking about, and I've watched some of this myself from down here, what you've said in regards to Trudeau and his administration, I guess you could say, yeah, I think it's a threat.
SPEAKER 08 :
I do, too, I think maybe for the first time since 1812 when they burned down the White House or tried to. But, you know, I don't think that the Trump administration is going to tolerate this. I think that because the American election, and you may disagree with this, but as someone who's outside of the United States, it's very clear that the rest of the world is sees MAGA as a global movement. Not a globalist movement, but a global movement. I can't argue that.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree with that. I think it's going to have far-reaching... No, really quick, to back what you just said up, and you maybe saw this, I watched some clips prior to the election I shared with my audience where I was watching video clips of people in Japan, not Americans in Japan, but Japanese carrying American flags, marching down the street with MAGA hats on at the same time, thinking, wait a minute, this isn't just in America... This is happening everywhere.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is. It's the response to globalism. Right. The real enemy behind globalism, as everybody should realize, are the Chinese. They're challenging U.S. hegemony globally. And I don't think the new Trump administration is going to have any of it. And so I would I expect and many Canadians hoped. that the Trump administration is going to take a much more sincere interest and scrutiny over the domestic politics of Canada. Because everything that Justin Trudeau and his government are supporting is everything Donald Trump has already said he's against.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can't disagree with anything you just said. And by the way, it's sad that it's come to that point because Canada doesn't need to be that way, as you know. I mean, it has been in the past a great country, a great ally of ours. We have had great relations back and forth over the many, many centuries, literally, that we've been doing that late. And the reality is it doesn't need to be disrupted. Unfortunately, much like where we were headed as a country, and as you just said a moment ago, We just happen to be lucky enough to have a few more checks and balances and have the ability to disrupt some of what the Chinese government would like to do to the U.S. Unfortunately, you guys are all in.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's unfortunately at the government level, not at the populist level. That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you. Thank you for the clarification. Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Canada is behind the United States in terms of an organized populist movement, which is what MAGA is. I was at a Trump rally in Henderson, Nevada recently, and I witnessed it firsthand. And unless you've seen it, you don't know how real it is. And it's much deeper than politics. Canada's not there yet, but I believe that that tide is rising, and I believe that that tide is going to be driven by MAGA.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can't argue that. I think, number one, people are just – and by the way, Leighton, it just happens to have the label of MAGA, but I think what it really is, is your point a moment ago. It's anti-globalism. It's, hey, we want to have things the way they used to be, and we're not in for having one superpower, you know, albeit – China ruling the world. None of us want that. We want to go back to some of the autonomy we once had. We can get along as different countries. We can benefit one another accordingly. And we want to go back to what that once was. So call it MAGA, call it anti-globalism, call it whatever you want, but that's what it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I would say it's not even going back. I think from listening to what Mr. Trump is saying and seeing some of these appointments he's made, he's going forward. I think he's going on the attack against globalism.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, I can't argue that. No, no, no. What I meant by going back is there was a time where globalism wasn't on the forefront light. It's been a while. I mean, that's been going on. I'm 60 years of age, and globalism has been around for a very long time, started here in probably the early 60s, but it really has gotten legs in the past 20 years.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. The left has been on the rise, and, of course, there's a lot of reasons for it. It's our universities. It's the media. It's expanding bureaucracy everywhere, expanding size of government. But it sounds like in the United States there's a plan to deal with all of that, And I believe that's going to have far-reaching implications for Canada and also for the rest of what we used to call the free world.
SPEAKER 16 :
And what I really should have said a moment ago, because I've said this many times on the program, and I don't know why it didn't come to my mind a moment ago. Really, what this is all about, Leighton, is it's anti-Marxism. That's the movement going on. Call it MAGA, whatever you want to label it. But really, at the end of the day, it's anti-Marxism. And because it's not just China, by the way, that believes in that. It's Russia. It's North Korea. There's many countries out there that want to be that. And what's interesting is once they start to get hold, then they start fighting amongst each other because— Somebody can only be at the top. It can't be everybody. And they're not going to allow that. So what they don't even understand amongst themselves is they'll be fighting with each other at some point, even though they claim to be allies right now, Russia, Iran. But at the end of the day, Leighton, this is us against Marxism.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, and this is very true. And, you know, Dennis Prager, who, by the way, is in the hospital.
SPEAKER 16 :
I saw that. Yeah, prayers go out to him. I did see that today.
SPEAKER 08 :
He likes to say that America is the last best hope. for humanity. And he's right. And fortunately, right now, the man of the moment is the right person at the right time. And it's not just him, it's the whole coalition. And I really pray that this is going to be something that is going to sweep the globe. Because it's a movement that I think has come of age. I think it's an irresistible force. And I think Although they're not going to give up easily, the left never does, I don't think that they can withstand what's coming in terms of the populist movement. You can see the pendulum has started to swing, and you can see the broad shoulders of the United States swinging that hammer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, what happened here, Leighton, and it could happen very well in Canada and other countries as well, I call it the not even forgotten man, and literally I mean male, I don't mean female. I mean the pushed away, forgotten man, the anti-male movement in America finally came to roost, and men finally woke up and said, you know what? We're tired of this. We're tired of being told all the time that we're worthless. We don't amount. Our opinions don't amount to anything. And by George, we're going to vote and we're going to vote for the guy that's probably the ultimate alpha male out there. And that's the direction we're now going to head. And that's where we're at.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, it's almost like the plot of an old Western movie, you know, like Pale Rider, you know, where these gangsters come into town and the gunslingers take over the town. And then this outsider comes from nowhere into the town and clears out all the bad guys and restores the confidence. of the people in the town, and they help this outsider restore sanity. It's the same sort of idea with High Noon. You're right. And that metaphor seems to be what's happening in the United States. And expanding the metaphor, I hope that that town will also be you know, the global community, because we really have to respond to all the bad guys. That's right. Amen.
SPEAKER 16 :
Amen. I'm with you. We're, you know, we want the same thing for Canada that we've had here, because I'll tell you right now, Light and I've got good friends that live in Canada. And again, I used to have family there. And I'll tell you that, you know, Trudeau is one of, if not the worst things that's ever happened to you guys.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he is. He's everybody gets every country seems to get one. And we've got our Justin Trudeau.
SPEAKER 16 :
But OK, before I let you go really quick, because I know there's somebody running in opposition to him. How is that going? He's very Trump like, by the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, he is. I would say that he's more like Ron DeSantis than Donald Trump. But that's still a pretty good version of conservatism, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
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I think Ron DeSantis would have been an excellent president as well. So we have his name is Pierre Polivier. And, you know, he's adapted himself. He's very clever. He watches the polls and he sees the impact of the popularity of Donald Trump And so I think that what he has been doing is sort of leaning towards some of the policies that are so popular in the U.S. and that many Canadians want. So I would see once he becomes a prime minister, I would see, I foresee a close relationship between the United States and Canada, much like what we had when Ronald Reagan was president and Brian Mulroney was our prime minister back in the 80s.
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What's that timeline look like before I let you go?
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Well, that's a great question. Everybody wants him gone. We may get an early election here, but the absolute limit is going to be October of 2025, which sounds like a long time away. Not that far.
SPEAKER 16 :
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All right, we are back. And somebody also mentioned that on the text line that part of the reason why Matt Gaetz resigned like he did is because he knows that Ron DeSantis can just appoint somebody to take his seat right away. That's incorrect, by the way. As I talked about on the podcast this last week, which you'll hear, it was on last night, you'll hear it again tomorrow if you want to listen to it or just go to the podcast and listen to it online. But Bob Duco and I were even talking about that because even Bob, which Bob's really smart, But this doesn't happen a lot, and the only reason why I knew about it was because of what had happened here in Colorado with Ken Buck. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have known either. It's constitutional across the country, not state by state, that if you resign your seat as a U.S. representative, there has to be a special election. The governor controls the timing of elections. that special election, but there has to be another election. And if you think about it, the reason for that is because representatives are from the people, meaning we elect them. They're not appointed or put in place by another quote-unquote bureaucrat. Senators, that's a different situation, because they're for the state. They represent the state, not... The people, now they represent the people through the state, but you get where I'm going with this, because there's two different roles there. Senators, yes, typically speaking, I think there's 14 states that do a special election, but 36 states, the governor appoints whoever is in that vacancy, that seat that's vacated, the governor then appoints someone to fill that. That's for senators. But in the case of Matt Gaetz, once he resigns, or any of these people, Stefanik, etc., if a U.S. House member resigns, there has to be a special election. This is where I think it's a little dicey for Donald Trump, because you've got to worry about, you know, if there's something... needs to happen quickly, and we're in the midst of making sure we get seats filled back in from these special elections, is there enough in the House to make this particular bill run through? You know, can I get it passed? Now, somebody also asked me about recess appointments. Yes, Donald Trump can do recess appointments, meaning he can appoint people during the recess of Congress and the Senate and so on. He can do that. Here's the catch that I learned. And again, I'm not an expert in any of this, but this is what I've learned. He can appoint them, they can go through that recess appointment, they can get confirmed, because it's a much less, you know, it's not as near as stringent a thing to go through in that particular situation. They can be confirmed, but they can't get paid Until back in session. That's what I've learned. And you guys can check me on that to make sure that I'm correct. But I believe that's what I've been told. And I believe that came from a very reliable source. And I believe that is correct. So, yes, he can do recess appointments. Presidents do. Every president does. Obama did it. Biden did it. It happens. Trump can do it as well. But to my knowledge, and what I believe is true, that can happen. They can be appointed. They can have all that done and even start serving, but they cannot be paid until everything's finally checked off correctly once session starts. So that is my knowledge on how that works. And somebody asked if I would explain recess appointments and what Donald Trump can do. And there's a lot of, you know, details here. And again, folks, these are things where you've got to almost be a student of the Constitution to understand all these things. You know, a lawyer is, I guess, what I'm trying to say. And I'm not. I am not. I am one of you. I still coach other businesses, run my own business, do all sorts of other things, and yes, I do this show, and yes, I study a lot for this show, but I am not a constitutionalist. I am not an attorney. I interview a lot of them, both constitutionalists and attorneys, so I've learned a lot over the years from those individuals, but I'm not one, and I've never claimed to be. But I do read a lot, and I do believe that that's the case. Speaking of people vacating their spot, there was an article out today in the Colorado Sun About Colorado Senator Chris Hansen, who, by the way, is about as far left as you can get. I'm not sure you can go any farther left than Chris Hansen. And I mean that. He is responsible for a lot of the laws. And if I get time today, I'll talk about when some of these, you know, when he's going to affect some of the bills and stuff that even were passed here recently. Stuff that was even done in the last session. He's responsible for. He was the sponsor of. He is a true blue lefty. Who just resigned. He just won his new seat. And by the way, this is a guy that's never won an election until now. He's been appointed until now. He just won. He just resigned, meaning his seat will now be appointed. And he's going to work for a utility down in Durango. And my point with this is, what a scumbag. You knew you weren't going to be here. Guaranteed, he knew he wasn't going to be here. But because he was worried about somebody else from our side winning that seat, he went ahead and ran. I mean, smart on their part. I'll give Democrats credit where credit's due. They were smart in this. He went ahead and ran one, and now since he won't be able to serve, he resigns, and somebody gets appointed to take his place. What a load of garbage, by the way. Chris Hansen, you should be ashamed of yourself. I know you're not. You're a lefty. You'll never be ashamed of yourself, but you should be. What a crock of garbage. This guy basically sews up the left having this seat no matter what, even knowing, I believe, going into this, that he was going to go to work for this utility. Because, by the way, those types of jobs don't just come up last minute. It's not something that he interviewed for yesterday. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. That's been something probably he's been interviewing on the last several months. If not, maybe a year. Who knows? When you go to run, basically be in charge of a utility. Trust me, I've known people in that world. Some of you listening have been in that world, and those things don't happen overnight. There is a complete, especially now with DEI and everything else, there is a complete interview process that goes on with multiple people, internally and externally. Trust me, he knew far in advance what was going on, but because he's such a coward, he didn't want to admit to any of that, and he just resigns, and now somebody else gets appointed to his Senate seat. That's how the left plays, guys. That's how the left plays. Give them credit. You know, they won fair and square. Nothing he's doing is illegal, by the way. It's just, in my opinion, very dishonest. And I will tell you it's unethical. But the left doesn't have ethics. So why would that matter? They accused Donald Trump of not having any. And yet they'll do this. What a bunch of hypocrites, by the way. If a Republican had done this, the left would be all over this saying the same thing I'm saying. They'd be crying foul all day long. Trust me, I know them enough to know that. Look at those dirty, rotten Republicans and what they just did. That guy knew he wasn't going to ever serve, but they knew that he could get replaced right away by somebody in an appointment. So, you know what? They knew all along. It wasn't a fair and square election. That's exactly what the left would say. You guys would be whining from here to the moon and back. I'm not whining. I'm mad. What a load of garbage. And by the way, that's something that won't make the mainstream news, what I just said. It'll make it that, oh, yeah, he resigned to go take over the utility down in Durango. Yeah, that'll come up, but not what I just said. Nobody will take the angle I just took. You won't get that out of our mainstream media here in Denver, not at all. Because they're a bunch of cowards, too. You won't hear Kyle Clark talking about this, guaranteed. Somebody should put a little bug in his ear. What a load of garbage. This guy should have resigned during the campaign and said, I'm not going to be able to serve. I'm taking a job down in Durango as a head of utility there. But again, this is what the left does. They'll tell you how upstanding they are. And oh, yeah, you know, you guys on the right, you don't have any ethics whatsoever. Look at Donald Trump. That guy is just a womanizing pig. And yet you'll do this. And claim victory in it. And not think twice about it. I guarantee you Chris Hansen doesn't think twice about it. Again, my biggest issue with Chris is some of the things that he's passed or made pass here in Colorado that we're all going to now suffer for. Total scumbag. Yeah, I'll call it like it is. Total scumbag. I don't care if he's a senator here. Well, he's not a senator. Now he's resigning. What a scumbag. Good riddance and have fun, Durango. You got a total lefty that's going to go down there and run your utility. Have fun. When the power isn't on, don't come crying to us. Because this is the kind of guy that'll go down there and make you run on windmills and solar. Trust me, that's who this guy is. So have fun down there when the power is out. And don't come crying back to us. I know Durango can't hear me, but some of you guys listening will push that down that way and let them know that. What a load of garbage. All right, Hi-Fi Plumbing is next. 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All right, might as well keep talking about Democrats. Our very own Governor Polis, the poser that he is. Yeah, I mean that sincerely. What a joke that guy is. Illinois and Colorado governors announce a state-level coalition to resist Trump policies. All of a sudden, Polis is states' rights. All of a sudden. What a clown. What an absolute clown. First of all, I see nothing that Donald Trump's going to do that would take away states' rights. He hasn't said anything about that. In fact, if anything, for example, he gets rid of the Department of Education, he's throwing that right back to the state. He has said numerous times, I will not sign a nationwide abortion ban. I believe him when he says that. That's a states' rights issue, much like the Supreme Court said. So I don't see Donald Trump doing anything that wouldn't do anything but shore up states' rights versus what I guess these guys feel, these coalition of governors feel, that he's going to somehow rain down federalism on them. Again, this is all just a bunch of posing, just a bunch of nonsense. Gets Polis in the news. Gets him set up for 2028. Trust me when I say that, by the way. If you don't believe me, I'm sorry, but that's most likely what's coming. He will be one of the frontrunners in 2028. This is part of what he's doing. So they're going to be co-chairs. Pritzker. of Illinois and Polis will be the co-chairs of the new nonpartisan, I always laugh when they say that, coalition of the nation's governors committed to protecting the state-level institutions of democracy, which we don't have anyways. Ahead of Donald Trump's incoming presidency, governors safeguarding democracy, or GSD, will be overseen by governors and supporters and supported by a network of senior staff designated by each leader while being supported by the Governor Act, an organization championing fundamental freedoms. Again, they act like Trump's going to come in and take everything away from us as a state. Nothing could be farther from the truth. What a waste of money, by the way. Every one of these things, by the way, doesn't run for free. Your tax dollars, as Coloradans, will go to support this. The staffing, our participation in, and so on. This stuff doesn't happen for free. They're collecting money somehow. So GovAct is advised by a bipartisan board that includes former Republican and Democrat governors and senior officials like former GOP Governor Arne Carlson of Minnesota, former Democrat Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, and former Governor Bill Weld of Massachusetts. And frankly, I don't care who sits on this thing. Now, when Biden was there, yeah, I'd want a coalition of governors to protect state rights because they're big Federalists. They want the federal government to control everything. As you guys know, I'm a states rights guy. I don't think we have enough states rights. I think far too many things are run by the federal government. I go as far as I was thinking of this the other day. I would even go as far as to say, do we really need the whole gas tax, federal funding, federal highways, all that kind of stuff? At one time, you know, Ike put in the federal highway system, the interstate system for national security. So we could run nuclear warheads, weapons and so on back and forth across the country as needed. Bridges had to be a certain height. The highways had to be a certain width and so on and so forth. Folks, with the ability for us to transport and do things the way we can now via air and other things that weren't available back then, do we even need that? And by the way, it's built. It's not like we have to build it again. Why can't that money just be diverted to each state on their own and let them handle it and get the feds out of it? Why do the feds have to be involved in the highway system at all in today's world? And if I'm wrong, lines are open 303-477-5600. I'll take a late break here and go for another few minutes here. So if you want to call in, feel free to do so. Why do we need an interstate federal funded interstate system? Maybe that is something that DOGE... The new department set up by Trump that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will run, maybe that's one of the things they'll look at, because I can guarantee you there's a huge amount of waste in that. The Mavis Act that makes... Every single worker that's in one of those projects get paid an above-average wage, costs all of us money. You talk about another area of waste, that's another one you can get rid of. Go to Congress, get that thing changed, get it reversed, get rid of it. If a contractor wants to go out, and they're going to have to pay a wage to have workers anyways, but why do they have to meet a certain hourly wage for a flagman, for example? Or a guy setting cones. Or the guy running the excavator. Or the guy running the paver. Or, or, or. I can go down the list. Every one of those jobs has a set wage by the feds. It's total garbage. All it does is cost us more money. It's ridiculous. Another way to save taxpayers money is eliminate that. Get rid of it. I would add to that, get rid of the whole federal operation of interstate and the roads anyways. Let each state handle that. You know, it's not like we do a great job of that anyways. You know, drive out of Colorado around any state that we're bordering and tell me how much better the roads are across the border versus ours. So it's not like Colorado is spending that money efficiently. You know, Governor Polis, he wants more states' rights. He can't even fix our roads. He can't take the money that we're even getting from the feds when it comes to that. He diverts it into other things. What a clown. What a clown. And if you don't believe what I just said, go drive it. I'm guessing he hasn't. He's usually on an airplane, not driving, I'm guessing. So he probably doesn't know what the edge of the border looks like going into New Mexico and Utah and Kansas and Nebraska. And I can go down the list of the seven states that border us. The reality is he doesn't know because he doesn't care. He acts like he does. Like I said earlier, he's a poser. He makes it sound like he's all high and mighty for you guys as Coloradans. He could care less about you as citizens of Colorado. He does not care. I don't care what he says. He doesn't care. His actions tell me he doesn't care. In fact, last I checked, he calls most of you selfish bastards. Because you don't wear your mask. That's what he thinks of you, by the way. That's what our governor thinks of you. Can't believe that guy got reelected. What an absolute clown. It's our own fault he didn't. Sorry. It goes back to the conversation I had earlier about our party. And yeah, in that case, I'm blaming the last folks that were in charge. Regardless, we've got to do a better job. We've got an opportunity to have a better governor in 2026, but we've got to start now, and I guarantee you we haven't. I'm not sure why, but we haven't. Anyways, this whole article about this whole coalition of governors basically making it sound like Donald Trump's some sort of a tyrant. All he's going to do is rule over the states. He's going to take states' rights away and so on. What a load of garbage. Again, this is nothing but... posing. It's a scare tactic. It's making people in the state afraid of Donald Trump and the federal government because they think all of a sudden Trump's just going to march through here and take over with the National Guard, which he doesn't even have control of, I guess over the military. I mean, it's just lunacy. Stuff's not going to happen. Trump's not going to do one single thing to take anything away from us as a state. Not one thing. So, if anything, he will add back to what we do here, i.e., the Department of Education. He gets rid of that, we have more money at the end of the day. So I don't see any of that happening whatsoever. Dan, go ahead. We've got a few minutes.
SPEAKER 07 :
So on top of our illustrious governor that we have, he appointed his whatever you call him, the person he's married to.
SPEAKER 16 :
The first man?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I guess, whatever. First gentleman, sorry. First gentleman. He's over Parks and Wildlife.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, I forgot about that. You're right, Dan. Yeah, you're right. The guy that's probably never been outdoors really hunting, fishing, anything along those lines, but yet he's in charge of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
But he loves the wolves, so that's why we got the wolves.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because they made that decision that the Parks and Wildlife couldn't come out for or against the wolves. And there's a lot of probably wildlife biologists that would have said don't vote for that wolf thing. So it's going to be a battle. I don't know what we're going to do about that. But the Cattlemen's Association and all the Sportsmen's Association have got to get together and start working on how we can combat. Yep. nepotism that's going on with the state.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can't argue that. And again, these sorts of things, as I said, and I mean what I'm saying, Dan, as you know, this is all just posing. This is all just optics. This is to make Governor Polis seem bigger than he really is so that as he goes to potentially run for president in 2028, that's all this is for.
SPEAKER 07 :
And think about his executive order on catalytic converters.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, he's They pose themselves as being so caring and everything, but what about the single mom who's trying to raise two or three kids and she can't afford to have her catalytic converters fixed?
SPEAKER 16 :
Because there's three times as much doing it the way he wants done. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and he doesn't care about them. He says he does, but he doesn't care about single moms. And so I don't know. That's just my two cents.
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Dan, I'll let you go. That's a great point. You're spot on. If he really cared about people in the state of Colorado, number one, he wouldn't have the EV mandate. Number two, he wouldn't have done with the catalytic converters what Dan just talked about, because, yes, it increased the cost of getting that replaced twofold, if not threefold, depending upon the car. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. He'll tell you that he does. But it's all false promises. It's all false. He doesn't care. His actions tell you that he doesn't care. And I don't care if he's listening or not. I hope he is. You're the biggest poser out there. I got nothing good to say. Sorry. I have nothing good to say. The only attaboy that I'll ever give Governor Polis is he's a great strategist because that's what he's doing here. He's good at strategy. He understands that end of it. He knows who to pander to. And he does a good job of that. Outside of that, I mean, I don't have any use for him as a governor, period. He's done nothing for us as a state as far as I'm concerned. Just look at our oil and gas industry and how he's decimated that. And then tell me how much he loves our state. Now, he'll come back and say, whoa, it's all for the good of the people because we're cleaning up the environment and the air and blah, blah, blah. What a bunch of nonsense. Literally. That technology has gotten so much better today that why Colorado isn't drilling and drilling and drilling and drilling and exporting and exporting and exporting its gas and oil and making even more money off of it as a state is beyond me. We have that ability, especially now with what Trump's going to be doing. We more than have the ability now to do that and capture some of that. Capitalize on that is what I should say. Cash in. Flesh Law coming up next. And Kevin wants to help you with whatever legal needs you have. Civil, criminal, Kevin can do it all. He's not afraid to go to court. He'll represent you whatever he needs. 303-806-8886.
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All right, I will on Tuesday talk about a particular article that really proves what Andy and I have been talking about for a long time now. I've been calling for the removal of Dave Williams from the GOP chair for, oh gosh, almost two years. Literally, close to two years. I know he's not quite been there two years, but I started right after he got in. There's an article in Colorado Politics talking about Jarvis Caldwell calling out Colorado Republican leadership for lack of support. And if you don't believe some of what I've been talking about in regards to the current GOP leadership, read that article. Andy and I will get into that on Tuesday. We'll go through this. It literally just solidifies all the things that Andy and I have been talking about for a long time now. Again, I was not bragging, but I was the first person on air, I think in the press period, to start calling out Dave Williams and all the shenanigans the guy pulls. I was on a mission. Still am. I want the guy gone. I want him gone from Colorado. Literally, pack up your family, move back to Florida. Gone. I mean that sincerely. I'll pay his moving expenses even. You heard me. Yes, I said that. I'll pay his expenses. Pack it up, Dave. Get out of here. Move back to Florida where you came from. Or New Mexico or wherever it was. I think his last stint was Florida. Don't quote me on that. I'd have to go look for sure. But regardless, I want him out of Colorado. He has done nothing but tear our party apart. In fact, I always have wondered, is there really an R next to his name or is it a big D? Democrat. Democrat. I don't know. He acts like a Democrat more than he acts like a Republican. The cronies that are around him do the same thing. And if you're somebody that's surrounding yourself with him or if you're around him, shame on you, by the way. You're not very bright. There are some people, by the way, that have been around Dave that I had some respect for at one time that I have zero for now because I can't believe they're that stupid. Yeah, I really can't. I can't believe you're that ignorant to hang out with that guy and support him. But there are. I mean, what's that old saying? There's a sucker born every day, and you can't fix stupid? I'll close today with that. Guys, we'll be back tomorrow. We've got movies, myself and Andy. My son's not going to be with us, so I'm not sure what we're doing with NFL picks, but I'm sure we'll figure that out as well. But have a great night. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
We bring to the forefront America’s rising fentanyl crisis with expert insights from Dr. Robert Marbutt. Discover the origins and frightening realities of this synthetic opioid's deadly impact on communities across the nation. Additionally, explore the challenges Joe Biden faces in the political sphere regarding potential mass pardons for nonviolent drug offenders. This episode combines investigative journalism and personal stories, offering a comprehensive view on issues affecting millions.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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We learn more appointments, folks who are going to be leading the Trump 2-0, as I'm calling it, coming up. We're going to go through the list as we have it updated for you today. Also, House Speaker Mike Johnson invited Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to the Hill today. They're going to be talking with A group of senators from the GOP caucus and a group of House members about their next steps in this new agency they're going to be overseeing called DOES, where they're going to be weeding out some of the government regulations and cutting expenses. This is one of the ones that's going to be exciting to watch. Charlemagne Tha God and Whoopi Goldberg classed on The View yesterday. With the radio talk show host just asking, Whoopi, can you not admit it when the Democrats make a mistake, when they're wrong? Evidently, she can't. Also, new details in the shocking shooting yesterday in downtown Manhattan where a business person, the CEO of a financial services company, was gunned down right in plain day in front of his hotel room. We have those details for you as well. And who's next on Joe Biden's pardon list? There's speculation now that the president may issue pardons to a list of people. Could be thousands of people if some of the progressive Democrats have their way before Joe Biden leaves the White House. We're going to jump into that for you today as well. 800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation today. You can call. Tracy will queue you up, and we'll talk as time permits. You can also send me a quick message on the MyPillow text line, 800-655-6453. Love your messages. You can email me directly. It's real easy, joey at joeyhudson.com. Regardless of how you do so, I do hope you'll join in today. So more details on this shocking story. It was a slaughter, an assassination of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson. We reported on this when it was breaking the other morning. And police have released a photo of the suspect. They also released some security video footage from a camera nearby. And you see this man, Brian Thompson, he's 50 years old. You see him walking down the sidewalk in front of his hotel, and this hooded guy with a backpack on just kind of walk into the frame, pull out his gun. He shoots him in the back. You see Mr. Thompson walking. turning and then falling to the ground, and the guy continues to shoot. Not quite sure yet. Police haven't said how many rounds, but it looked to me like at least six or eight rounds. They are saying that they recovered, of course, some of the shells and that there's a possible message. It appears to include the words deny, depose, and defend that was engraved on some of the casings that they found on the ground and a couple of live rounds that was found, too. The words are strikingly similar, according to reports, to a 2010 book condemning the insurance business in which Thompson is one of the most powerful leaders, of course. Delay, Deny, Defend, two of the three words seemingly left is subtitled, Why Insurance Companies Don't Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It. We don't know if it has any meaning or not, but it is kind of odd that there would be messages, words engraved on these shells. We'll give you more details on this. There is a $10,000 reward for information. They have a pretty clear photo of this guy. And it's just amazing. This is another example of how there are video cameras everywhere you go now. And very quickly, they were able to release video following him almost every step of the way. He got on one of the rental bikes in New York City. They have bikes just about every block. He got on their city bikes, E-City bikes. And he got on one of the bikes and rode it up a few blocks and went into Central Park, and that's when they lost him, when he got into the park. So a $10,000 reward for information, and I've got a feeling that they'll catch this guy probably sooner than later, and we'll know exactly what's going on with that. More big announcements coming out of the park. President-elect Trump's administration, Trump 2-0 is really starting to shape up with some proven fighters. What I love about it, successful business people, people who have actually run businesses, people who have signed the front of the check, as we say, rather than the back of the check. And I think we're getting off to a great start here. Of course, some of these have to be confirmed, but I think that the GOP caucus and the U.S. Senate, they're ready for that. If there's going to be some fights, and there probably will be a battle on a few of them, I think overall we're going to be in good shape. Coming up, I'm going to go through a couple of the big announcements yesterday and some of the agencies and why they're important and why you're going to like it, too. And we're going to dive into this idea, too, of pardons by Joe Biden and how many more pardons he may offer. You're not going to like some of the ideas that are being floated. I'm Joey Hudson in for Mike.
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Thank you so very much for having me, and most importantly, thanks for caring about the fentanyl crisis.
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Sure thing. I mean, this is a huge thing, and to read that, the fact that from ages 18 to 45 are young people, this is the leading cause of death, that is just troubling. Talk with us. The obvious question is, how did it get this far out of hand so quickly?
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Well, there are probably two quick answers to that. One is that the current administration just was asleep at the switch the last four years. When it started to blow up, they just weren't prepared. They didn't know how to handle China. They didn't know how to handle the Mexican cartels. And now we're starting to see the biker gangs come out of Canada, and they weren't even aware of it, basically. So that's sort of the last three or four years of the problem. The genesis of the current fentanyl crisis goes back to Purdue Pharma, where it got hundreds of thousands of people addicted, million people on prescription. And we all know the story about how all the lawsuits that shut it down, but you had all these people addicted. And there was no plan for what do you do when they're addicted, no plan to get off. And most of them were addicted through medical surgeries. And the insidious nature of the Mexican cartels with China said, we'll fill this void. We have millions of people already using synthetic opioids, hundreds of thousands that are addicted. So we can come in and fill the void. So in essence, the Mexican cartels are a direct extension of Purdue Pharma in terms of the supply chain.
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On our guest line today, Dr. Robert Marbutt, he's one of the producers on Fentanyl Death Incorporated. It's available now on an exclusive pre-release basis. You can go to SalemNow.com, SalemNow.com, click on the Salem Now films and watch it now. So tell me, I don't understand completely why fentanyl is so much more lethal, so much more dangerous than some of the other drugs on the streets.
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Well, it starts because we have a lot of drugs that have gone from the sort of the organic, if you will, organic opioids. And so then it jumped to the synthetic in the laboratory. So doing that jump made it more powerful. So that's to start with. The second thing that makes it so dangerous is you can't smell it. You can't taste it. So you don't know what's there. You don't know the potency. You don't know how much is in it. So it's already very powerful and you can't detect it unless you're doing a lab test. And then the, just the power of addiction, This is the most addictive drug that mankind has ever made worldwide. We've never seen anything like this. And so, so many people are drawn to that in addiction. And that's why, again, Purdue Pharma getting so many people started on the drug in the first place, and then having the supply chain that the Mexican cartels did, It was just a combination, like a perfect bad storm all coming together.
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Yeah. Dr. Robert Marbert, I appreciate your work on this. Again, you can see Fentanyl Death Incorporated. Go to SalemNow.com, Salem Now Films, and just watch this now. Doctor, appreciate your time today.
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Thank you very much, and encourage any, if you're a parent, a child, or a policymaker, it'd be a great movie to see.
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You must see this. Thank you, sir. Coming up next, we've got a lot of calls and a lot of text messages that we're going to be going through, a lot to break down on this busy, busy day on the Mike Gallagher Show. Charlene, the God, and Whoopi Goldberg, they clashed over Joe Biden's pardon on The View. It got a little dicey there with the radio talk show host asking, Whoopi, can you not admit it when Democrats are wrong? That and much more. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike Gallagher.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studio, sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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Welcome in on this busy day. Glad to have you join me. 1-800-655-MIKE. 1-800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. You can send me a quick text on the MyPillow text line. Your calls are welcome. Tracy will queue you up. We'll talk as time permits. And, of course, emails are welcome directly. joey at joeyhudson.com. New details on the shocking target killing. of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Midtown Manhattan. Police have released a photo of the suspect, seen moments before the shooting, inside of a Starbucks just literally around the corner. This is an example of how video cameras, surveillance cameras, are everywhere these days. It is amazing how... how authorities in New York have been able to track this guy from the time he was literally just before the shooting till he fled after gunning this guy down. The suspect is described as a male wearing a hooded jacket. He was captured on multiple surveillance footage cameras standing at the Starbucks counter on West 56th Street and 6th Avenue. I literally was there this past week. When Peg and I were up with Mike for Thanksgiving in New York City, we walked right by there. It's a busy area of the city. And you can see in the video that was released, and it's too graphic for me to share with you, this guy comes out of nowhere, walks up behind Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, and just literally guns him down. He shoots him in the back. Mr. Thompson, when the first bullet hits, you can see he kind of turns, starts to go to his feet, and the guy just keeps standing over him shooting. It's horrific to see that something like this could happen. Police are confirming that it was no random act. They believe that this was intentional. I mean, it looked like a professional job to me. This guy just pulled his gun out and started shooting. Then he just casually walked across the street. got on an E-City bike, which those are rentals that are spread throughout Manhattan and New York City. You can rent one. He hopped on it and started going uptown, went into Central Park where he disappeared, was no longer being able to be seen on any surveillance cameras there. There is a $10,000 reward for information on this. His wife, Paulette Thompson, revealed that her husband had been receiving threats related to his leading the nation's largest private health care insurer. And one other detail that has been released today, too, is that police say that there was an inscription engraved on the casings. We're not quite sure what it means, but it seems to be a message saying, from the killer to this family and to this company. So more details and a citywide search for this killer in Manhattan. The shameless pardoning of his son on Sunday night has everyone speculating what other pardons Joe Biden may do before he leaves the White House. Politico wrote last night, 11 days before President Biden shocked DC by pardoning his son Hunter, a group of lawmakers and advocates gathered outside the Capitol building to urge Biden to grant a different set of clemencies. Representatives Ilhar Omar, Ariana Presley, and a handful of others urged the president to use his power to pardon or grant clemency to thousands of people serving time in federal prison for convictions related to nonviolent marijuana use, crack cocaine, and more. Omar said at a news conference, we join a growing chorus of voices calling on President Biden to exercise one of the most profound powers of the presidential office, the power of clemency. She and other Democrat progressives gathered in front of the Capitol, this was a couple of weeks ago, asking for the president to literally pardon thousands. In cut number nine, you'll hear Omar and others talk about how the president needs to do this before he leaves the White House.
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Today, we join a growing chorus of voices calling on President Biden to exercise on one of the most profound powers of the presidential office, the power of clemency. Clemency represents a critical opportunity to correct a longstanding injustices recognize human potential for redemption, and acknowledge that our legal system has often been more punitive than restorative. The United States represents just 5% of the world's population, yet we hold more than 20% of the global prison population. Over 1.9 million individuals are currently incarcerated with a disproportionate impact on communities of color. Black men are incarcerated at more than five times the rate of white men, a legacy of systematic inequalities that have persisted for generations.
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How do you feel about this? So if you listen to Ilhan Omar, Ilhan Omar, It leads you to think that she just wants Biden to turn them loose because of the color of their skin or maybe the law that they broke wasn't that big of a deal. Now, my thought on that is if you break the law, a jury of your peers have found you guilty, a judge has sentenced you, the president shouldn't turn you loose. Ilhan Omar thinks that thousands should be given clemency, should be turned loose. We're not quite sure where this is headed. If you listen to Karine Jean-Pierre on Monday when she was trying to defend Biden's sudden pardon of his son, Some of the things that she said would lead you to think that there are going to be more coming. She said Americans could expect more announcements, more pardons, clemency at the end of this term. But the administration hasn't said how many yet. More than 3,000 people, advocates say, remain in federal prison for marijuana-related crimes. And it seems that the focus is on people who are in jail because of their marijuana use. Popular Democracy is one of the advocacy organizations involved in the November 20th press conference that day. It says that there are over 10,000 pending clemency petitions they believe the president should pardon or commute, all of these involving marijuana use. The chorus of Capitol Hill voices, this is Politico writing, pushing for these commutations also includes Senator Elizabeth Warren. She said President Biden should expand clemency for people with marijuana-related convictions. There's more the administration can do before the end of the term to reform our system and right these wrongs. On that assumption, you're assuming that it was wrong that someone went to jail for breaking the law that involved marijuana. Now, I know this is a touchy subject at times. It surprises me sometimes of some of my conservative friends who think that marijuana should be legal. And it is in a number of areas. That's one of the things that I have the hardest time adjusting to. When we were in New York this past weekend, walking down the street and smelling marijuana. When I have been in Vegas in the past, same thing. I just can't wrap my head around the idea that it's okay for people to be smoking dope in a public area, or anywhere for that matter, when it's illegal in most of the country. But what do I know? 800-655-6453. What do you think about Joe Biden maybe pardoning thousands and thousands of marijuana users who are in prison right now? You have a problem with that? Are you okay with that? Comments are welcome on the MyPillow text line, 1-800-655-6453. Email is welcome, joey at joeyhudson.com. I'm Joey, in for Mike today.
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Hey, Joey. How are you?
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I'm wonderful. Hope you are, Mark.
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So you were talking earlier before the break about... the pardons for marijuana convictions. And I just wanted to say for me, my thoughts on it would be if somebody's been dealing drugs or, you know, got arrested or convicted for a, you know, a large amount of drugs, then no, I don't think that they should be relieved of their responsibility to pay back society. But if it's something, you know, it's, $20 worth of pot in a kid's pocket, then I can't see that being something that they should sit in prison for.
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Yeah. And Mark, and I honestly, I don't know for sure, but do you think that there are people in prison just for that? Some of my law enforcement friends, they always tell me when this subject comes up that most people aren't in jail just because they were smoking pot, but they were smoking pot when they committed other crimes.
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You would think so. I think it probably depends on where they were arrested. There's some states where they'd probably be extremely lenient for a little bit of pot, but I think there's other places where it would be a bigger crime than other places. Sure.
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Well, and one other quick question for you, Mark, and I appreciate your phone call today. Let's put that aside for a minute. Do you think that it's right, though, for Joe Biden to just issue mass pardons for literally thousands and thousands of people? No.
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I don't think that in any case for any crime to just issue a blanket pardon, it all depends on each individual case. And the details of that. So no matter what, uh, I don't think that he should issue a blanket pardon for everybody now.
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Yeah. And that's what the progressives were asking him to do. Basically, you know, they're, they, they've identified tens of thousands of people who are in prison who have that. Uh, one of the charges is marijuana use and they're wanting him to just give a blanket pardon that would cover them. And that's just, uh, that that's not right. Appreciate your phone call, Mark. Uh, Merry Christmas to you. Uh, 1-800-655-6453. One line open for you. I'd love to hear from you. Your text messages on the MyPillow text line are welcome as well. 800-655-6453. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike Gallagher today. Hope you'll join the conversation.
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Join Dana as she dives into another thrilling episode filled with the bizarre antics of the infamous Florida Man. This time, the peculiar tale involves saws and vehicular disputes. Alongside this, Dana tackles the contentious debate around THC regulation in Texas, scrutinizing the implications of big government's decisions on personal freedoms.
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Jeez, straws, axes. So, this Florida Man, a saw-swinging Florida Man, struck a guy during a wrong-way driving argument. Boy, oh boy. Yeah. Yeah. So this Fort Myers Lee County Sheriff's Office, an argument over a wrong way driving, landed one man in jail and another left with life, non-life-threatening injuries. Rolando Ruiz Alonzo. Too many names, Rolando. He was the primary aggressor in the altercation. And according to police, the old dude began swinging a... Was it a saw or not? A saw-like tool toward a victim as the argument escalated and the victim was struck. And then he also used a piece of ceramic pottery as a weapon. He was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. I guess, I mean, he was driving the wrong way and got called out. I don't know. But good heavens, like there's... How many people have saws and machetes there? It's like people just go to their trucks and get them. Here's my machete. Okay. Here's my saw. A Florida man who was accused of murder was captured after TikTok revealed his whereabouts. People overshare. He shot and killed his girlfriend in front of her two children while they were at a cemetery of all places. St. Petersburg police were searching for him for three and a half years. No success. And then a video of a local news story was shared on TikTok. He was in Mexico and it showed him in Mexico and they were able to get him. So now he's been charged with first degree murder and two counts of child abuse. They just happened to get him. So, wow, I just happened to see him in the background of this news story. He was in Mexico. Not really hiding out too well, I guess. A few, I got to tell you, and we've been watching all of this stuff as it pertains to the, we were talking about Doge a little bit ago and a lot of these cabinet picks, et cetera, et cetera. And I saw this story last night, and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it. And I got aggravated. I always get mad at people who think that politics began the day that they signed up for an X account. Because some of us have been out here busting our edible snakes for quite some time, pushing it back against rhinoism, right? And you always get these drive-bys who are like, oh, I can't believe people think that Republicans are... You know, like the party of small government or whatever. And I'm like, you know, broad first off, you know, drop the drunk bridesmaid act. I get that you, you know, when you created your ex account, you think that all politics began that the day that you became self-aware. But some of us have been out here doing the heavy lifting while you could sit here and go and get your overfilled face done and your ratty ass extensions. And you could try to, like, talk platitudes about it on X. Stop. I get so aggravated over this stuff. Stop it. A lot of people out there have been doing the heavy lifting. A lot of you out there have been doing the heavy lifting, pushing back, calling your lawmakers, holding everybody accountable. And we're not going to be judged by people who just opened a drive by account and all of a sudden went away and like, you know, they're the generals of the movement. Stop it. We're not doing it. And I specifically got aggravated over this one post that I saw from Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas. So he he posted this. Did you see this, King? This is going to be up your alley. It's in Slack. He said it's a major legislative initiative to ban all THC. Thousands of stores have opened to sell all types of dangerous products with unlimited THC. And these stores even target your children is what he's saying. Let me read it first off. Oh, don't roll your eyes. I don't care if you're I'm not Tommy Chong. OK, I'm no Tommy Chong, but I know government overreach when I see it. That's what this is about. Today, it's about whatever the hell THC. Tomorrow, it's guns. You don't know. So he had this, he wants to ban all THC. Thousands of stores have opened to sell all types of dangerous products. What? Wait, there's more. He's talking about This representative, Tracy King, this bill, blah, blah, blah. Part of the bill allowed for the commercialization of hemp, which might include unremovable, non-intoxicating trace amounts of Delta 9 THC. Quote, dangerously, retailers exploited the agriculture law to sell life-threatening, unregulated forms of THC to the public and made them easily accessible. They sold them to adults and they targeted Texas children, exposed them to dangerous levels of THC. I mean, they keep saying the word dangerous. And then they use the word life-threatening levels in another sentence. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Okay. Again, I'm no Tommy Chong here. But... I'm pretty sure that you would have to have all the THC on Earth in order for it to be considered dangerous. Am I correct? I was talking to some of my more pot-minded associates about this. So, yes, maybe we know people in California. I don't partake in any of this. But they get so into the, like, what am I thinking of? The artisanal marijuana. It is hysterical. How it is not a reality show, I do not know. If you've ever tried to see hippies turn into bougie entrepreneurs, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. God love it. But anyway, Kane, don't they include a tiny amount? I mean, it's not like they're tripping acid.
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Yeah, no, it's not unlimited. It's definitely limited. There's only so much.
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I mean, you can regulate it. From what I understand, it's already Texas law that it's regulated.
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It is regulated.
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So that's a lie. Dan Patrick published a lie.
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He's talking about.
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I'm so surprised.
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He's talking about the THC that they've in the lab removed a molecule so that it isn't. the illegal THC-9 on the federal level. So he's talking about the THCs that have had the molecules removed so that they're a different THC from the THC-9, and he's saying that those are dangerous. So it's a little bit different because this is sort of a laboratory thing that's created for these vapes and the consumption for people. So I don't know. He's technically not lying, though.
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I don't want to sound like Joe Rogan talking about this stuff. And that's not an insult. But I'm just not a pot person. I'm not. I'm not. But I just am like, this is big government. This is big government.
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Oh, without a doubt it is. Oh, without a doubt. It absolutely is.
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So the same government that was like, y'all better get these shots, now is like, no, you can't have gummies. Right? Exactly. Same people, right? You're right. And we are to listen to them. Why?
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I can't sell you on that.
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No means no, Texas government.
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It's not what AOC says.
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I mean, okay, because you guys think it's funny that I know so little about football. Wait until you hear me talk about marijuana. This is Kane's other favorite. Because what did I tell you yesterday? How did I say it yesterday? I was like, well, doesn't THC, doesn't that just make you like fat because of munchies and suspicious? Yeah, it was suspicious and fat?
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That's what you said.
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Yeah, doesn't it just make you suspicious and fat?
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Yeah. I'm like, what? What do you mean? Paranoid? Yes. And get the munchies?
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Yes. Because isn't that like the common thing? It's like you're always paranoid. And so there are a couple of people I know who actually work in this industry, like I was saying. And both of them are veterans. And one of them we just met, but we know somebody that does this. It's like a lot of veterans use it, especially to help manage PTSD, because they don't want to be hooked on big pharma stuff. They don't want to have to take like these, you know, psychotropic drugs and all of this. And they just need, you know, and it helps them to relax at night or whatever. I don't have any problem with that. I don't know why anybody, mind your business. I mean, for crying out loud, it's a gummy. And they put, from what I understand, like a tiny percentage of whatever in it. It's not like people are going out there, you know, tripping beans and acting like Beto O'Rourke, breaking and entering and drunk driving. Nobody's doing that.
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I know, and it's this kind of work by the government that actually has us putting our names on lists when we want to get pseudofed for a nose running or something. That's what big government, this is what will end up happening.
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Someone was saying that it was similar to taking melatonin. I was reading that in the comments. I take like 10 milligrams. Sometimes I'll take 20 of melatonin. I'm actually trying to take less because I get so groggy. I'm so groggy in the morning. But I take 10 milligrams of melatonin a night. I'm definitely not out there being dangerous on 10 milligrams of melatonin. If what I have been told and what I've read, that it is similar in terms of relaxing it, which is why a lot of veterans take it and they take it at night.
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Do you get suspicious in fat?
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No, I don't. I don't get suspicious in fat. Because it doesn't have the pot in it. It's just melatonin, like the fast-dissolve melatonin tablet. I'm just saying, why is this an issue that they're focusing on in Texas? No, I get that people can walk and chew gum at the same time. But out of nowhere, let's go after the THC. And from what I'm understanding, it's a tiny... I don't want the government involved in anything else. No, Texas should be shrinking government, not expanding it. This is just big government. And I don't care if you're a pot person or not. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. I mean, this is a variable. What have I always told you? In all of these instances, guns are a variable. Pot is a variable. Look at all of this. It's the same formula. They just switch out the variables. That's it. That's it.
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I wonder if on a federal level the fact that they're talking about changing the schedule of it.
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I think they're trying to nationalize all regulation of it to create an industry for themselves that they can monopolize.
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I wonder if this is just Texas' response to that potential. I have no idea, though.
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I don't think so. That's not how I look at it. I mean, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I mean, I like being correct on issues. I'm not, you know, I'm not a petty partisan. But to me, from when I was reading this, like, why do you need to ban it? They're not trying to... They just want to ban everything. Why do you need to ban it? And sorry, they're not targeting the kids. They're not. That sounds like a gun grabber argument. Oh, you're marketing these guns to kids. No one is selling... THC to kids. Have you seen these stores? No offense to anyone, but I'm going to be very honest. Okay. You know what do they look like? Do you want to, you know what they look like? They look like, oh gosh, you're going to, they look like white trash boomer places. I'm sorry, but they do. It's like, they're so uncool looking. They are so uncool. They're uncool. Kids don't want to go to an uncool place. It's not like they're sticking Barney out front or whatever the hell furry. They're not sticking that stuff out front. You know, come on, stop it. Stop it. I'm not making nobody get mad because I'll print out your email and I will roll over it with my mini segue that I got six years ago on Amazon for Mother's Day and then I'll take it to the range and shoot Buckeye through it or Birdshot through it. So stop it. But you know what I mean? They look like adult places. It doesn't look cool. They don't look cool. Kids are not going to go to a place that doesn't look cool. I seriously take issue with the whole marketing to the kids thing. That's what big government always says with stuff that it wants to ban. Oh, my gosh. It's going after the kids. Wait, the same government that's going after the kids trying to cut their genitals off and flip their genders? The very same. Against the wishes of their parents. Suddenly this government's all worried about the kids. Oh, what? The same government that lost hundreds of thousands of kids that it that it allowed to come across the border illegally. Suddenly that same government. Oh, my goodness. We can't have these cannabis stores targeting the kids. Just can't have a cane. Can't have these cannabis stores. I've seen one after the kids.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I've seen the ingredients list on like Fruit Loops. They're allowing some pretty poisonous stuff. Our kids eat it right in front of the TV.
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They literally use a bird to advertise it to the kids. Yes, directly to the kids. Come eat our cancer cereal, kids. It's full of cancer. It is.
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Yeah, I'm not really going to pay attention to the government. So out of all the... And you know what? Lieutenant Governor Patrick has come on the show before. Can we have... Let's bring him on again to talk about that. He's going to be like, oh my gosh. We get along with him so well, even when he's so wrong. We're so nice because he's very genteel. But I'm just like the same guy. Is anybody else fed up with the government telling you what you can and can't do, especially after, I don't know, the whole Wu flu drama? Yeah. So it seems like I'm just done with it. The same government that was doing all this stuff. That was shilling out books about oral sex to your kids in elementary school? The same government. Oh, we don't like these. These stores are targeting the kids. No, they're not. You are. Sup? Thank you so much for having me. designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Oh, man. I just remembered it's time to watch Nightmare Before Christmas. Deadly Nightshade. Movie actress dies at a Mexican spiritual retreat after consuming deadly monkey frog potion. What gave you the idea that this might be deadly? Anything that's a monkey frog potion already sounds like it's going to be deadly. Why do people do this? So it's I don't think you need to say movie actress, but they did this strange potion. They said dates back to the Inca period. And oh, it's meant to cause uncontrollable diarrhea and vomiting for consumers, which supposedly acts as a cleanse. So Marcella Rodriguez, she apparently decided that she was going to do this and it didn't work out well for her. It's 40 times stronger than morphine. Oh, my gosh. Why? Who would who's like, you know, well, you're going to basically leak out of everything to death. That's how it's going to work for you. Who wants to go? OK, let's do that. No, it was in Durango, northern Mexico. I mean, it literally took hours to kill her. They're doing an autopsy, but pretty much have an idea of how that happened. It's going to say that's horrible. An officer uses a child. An officer uses a child's bicycle chasing down a felony suspect. And there's body cam footage and it's actually hysterical. He was not near a squad car. He used a little kid's bicycle to go after the felon. He commandeered a kid's bike to continue the pursuit, said the department in its paperwork. And it was a bright lime green bike, too, which is funny. They got him. He got him. He caught the suspect, charged him with felony theft. The guy also had three other outstanding warrants. And they said the suspect might have had a scooter, but Officer Tarr had determination and a kid's bike. Yeah, he thought he was going to get away on a motorized scooter, but it wasn't going to happen. Not with Officer Tarr. He was on it. I mean, and kudos to the kid who let him take the bike. Juan's showing you the footage right now. He grabs the kid's bike, and he's like, here we go. Here we go. We're going after him. I mean, this actually makes me want to now ride a bicycle. Right? Remember how fun this was back in the day? This was fun. By the way, this is what Peloton should have had. Peloton should have had, like, revisiting your childhood by riding your, instead of the stupid stuff that they had. They favored it. Yeah, going through the neighborhood. Let's see here. Oh, the worst time to shoplift. Here's an idea. If you're shopping with a cop, don't steal while you're doing it. And they did this as a Walmart event, their annual shop with a cop. And someone who was shopping with a cop decided to steal from the Walmart. Didn't work out well for him. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at Caltech, the P15. It stands for 15 pews. It's the lightest. thinnest, most easily concealable 9mm double stack mag that's on the market. And there's nothing else that comes close. They have two versions, metal and polymer. Metal frame version has the really gorgeous wood panel. It has these wood grain panels that I just think give it a total... I was actually having a debate with a friend about what genre of James Bond. I say the Sean Connery like 60s, 70s, sort of 70s, you know, maybe. James Bond. It's a great looking gun. The polymer version, gator grip texture. It comes with two standard capacity magazines. One's a 15 round minimal pinky extension. The other is a flush fit double stack mag that holds 12 rounds as well. Tritium fiber optic front sight, fiber optic front sight. You get a fully adjustable fiber optic two dot rear. A lifetime warranty, super compact, great for concealed carry self-defense, whether you're a newbie or an old pro at it. It's more dependable, yet game-changing innovation from the people who literally created the micro-compact pistol category. Innovation, performance, Kel-Tec. Learn more at Kel-TecWeapons.com. That's K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you. I want to play this video, Cain. It's in Slack, but it's very juvenile. So you guys remember Eric Fart's, I mean, Swalwell. verbal typo yeah it's a verbal typo it was completely an innocent error i need to i need to discuss this video just because it's funny and i need a palate cleanser and also wow it's almost friday i mean you know it is it's you know like i said next week everybody's gonna be drunk on eggnog half of you are gonna be paying attention So let me get your attention. This is Zoe Lofgren. She's a Democrat, of course. What is up with people from California and their personal gas issues? I don't get it. She just let her rip tater chip right there on CNN. Go ahead. Roll tape. Watch her eyes.
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That power of the purse is with the legislative branch, not the president.
SPEAKER 01 :
And I do want to ask you, because of your work on the January 6th committee.
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Yeah, you need a wipe after that. Dana, you're juvenile. I am. Hi. Did we meet just now? Did we? That's the smartest thing that was said on CNN all week, believe it or not. Smartest thing. Crazy, right? That fart is going to get its own contributorship. It's going to happen. Zoe Lofgren's fart. CNN contributor.
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It'll be Toobin and Tootin. I can see it now. It'll be like, you know, the big show.
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It can host a show with, yeah, Jeffrey Toobin. Right. Toobin can host it with, hosted by Jeffrey Toobin and Zoe Lofgren's fart. Yeah, there you go right there. I mean, it is. I know. I totally know that it's juvenile, and I love it all the same. Love it all the same. And notice Jim Acosta's face. Jim Acosta has this thing where he looks at his monitor. So if you're watching the simulcast, I'm looking right at the camera. I don't have a teleprompter. I have a giant screen in front of me that I refer to for notes or if I'm reading, quoting something for you. And then I have a monitor that shows me the program right below it. So you can't really see unless you kind of can. If I'm looking right at the camera, if I'm looking at the monitor for some reason, it's like CNN's monitors are five feet under the camera. I don't get it because he's not looking at the camera. He's looking all the way down at the monitor. So when you're the viewer and you're watching, even when he's only when he's, unless he's reading the prompter, Does he look at the camera? He doesn't look at it unless he's reading the prompter. He's always like this. Always. If you go find clips of Jim Acosta, this dumbass cannot look at the camera to save his life. He's constantly looking down at the monitor. And I'm like, dude, bro, look at the camera. But then it then it makes me wonder, well, how low are those monitors? Like, look at where his eyes are. His eyes are like all the way. I mean, his whole head's turned down. How far away from the camera? The monitor should be right underneath it to where there's not really. And the monitors just, you know, so you can kind of see, you know, take a glimpse for like show elements. Like sometimes I'll look at it if we're doing like a side by side or something to make sure because I move so much that I'm not aggravating one. And I'm like in the middle of the shot because one is obsessed with symmetry. Because he's good at his job. That's what he does. He's like, everything's got to be symmetrical. Everything's got to be in its place. So I try to help out by not going everywhere. So I'll refer to the monitor. He always stares at it. And then I noticed when he's questioning people. Remember when he was in the White House press corps? Because I was looking at some of these videos on break. He doesn't look at people in the face when he's asking them a question. I've noticed this. Even when, and one of the videos that came up were that time that he grabbed that woman's arm when he was questioning Trump, remember? And they were having a very, he was having a very heated Q&A. It was a White House press avail. And even then he was not, he would not look at anybody in the face. It's weird. He's a weird cat. He's a weird dude. I don't know. I mean, maybe Zoe Loughran's fart is going to take over a show because, I mean, at least that looks right in the face. Just saying.
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Can we hear it again, please?
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Steve is obsessed with us. I only heard it once. Steve was the one who was like, watch your eyes. I only heard it once. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead.
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That power of the purse is with the legislative branch, not the president.
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And I do want to ask you because of your work on the January 6th committee.
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That almost sounded like a video game effect. Right? Right? Trying to think what that reminded me of. What video game sound does that remind me of something? Yeah, I don't know. So I thought that was the smartest thing that's been said on CNN.
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Look at that on a multi-faceted approach of everything that's wrong with the system that we're facing. One, look at the photo that they used to show the victims. It seemed like it was a young, innocent child who was brutally murdered. And it gave that impression. When you looked at the photo that was being used, it wanted to set up in the minds of people that we were dealing with a young innocent child that, you know, just Michael Jackson intimidator that, you know, was just brutally assaulted. Then you look at the complete failure of our mental health system, a complete failure from the days of closing psychiatric wards and having those who needed help just turned over into the street without giving any safety net to accept them. Parents reach out to me all the time and say, I'm watching my child go down or my loved one, my family. And we're going down this serious decline. What do we do? a system where you brought people into hospitals, gave them medicine for one day, and sent them back. The young man, in this case, was going within our system, throughout the revolving door of our system.
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You know, what he's saying isn't wrong, but it's not what the media wants to promote. And what he's saying, and that's Eric Adams, by the way. The mayor of New York City. Because and this is about this Daniel Penny case, which I don't know if we're going to have a verdict today or not. And, yeah, we're supposed to, but it's day three now. I'm like, what's the holdup? Like, who's the juror that's like, oh, I don't know if he's innocent. I mean, the guy's innocent. I mean, the stupid stuff that they had and the way that they portrayed Jordan Ely. And, of course, the parents are all in it now. I don't know if we're going to talk about all that. I don't know if you've seen any of it. The parents are all involved in it. All of a sudden, the parents, total deadbeats. I mean, they've been deadbeats. They're complete deadbeats. They now are saying that they want to sue because they are blaming Daniel Penny for Jordan Neely's death. And they're saying that they want to sue over it. And the dad came out and the mom came out. And the problem is that they are deadbeats. The dad was, I mean, the dad gave him up at birth. They're deadbeats. And then they come out because they smell a grift. They smell the opportunity for money. They didn't care enough. They didn't value his life enough when he was alive. But now that he's dead and they can make some sweet cash off it, now they care. His parents are absolute pieces of excrement. I think, Daniel, I think that Jordan Neely's parents, they raised a thug. I think his parents are thugs. I think that they raised a thug. I think that they raised a guy who's trying to blame being crazy for just being a murderous jackass who punches women and tries to attack mothers with their newborn babies, tries to kidnap seven-year-olds, try to shove people on the tracks. And That's stuff that the media didn't want to tell you about, by the way. We've talked about it on this program. The media didn't want to tell you about it. And this, I mean, it's sad because, you know, he chose to live his life a certain way and he chose to go out a certain way. And I'm sorry, I only give so much, I only extend so much to people who are like, oh, I just didn't know I was murdering people. I'm crazy. No, you know. I hate this whole, well, let's just put it in the crazy bin. Because I think it excuses so much just willful bad behavior. The choice of doing evil. That's what I think it does. Welcome to the program, actually. Dana Lash here with you. We're at the top of this first hour. Yes, I'm still under the weather. Everybody comments. I appreciate the nice things that you've said. People are like, oh, I can tell you sound. But you're sounding stronger. Thank you for the encouragement. I don't get super sick that often. Man, this one was a doozy. So I sound tougher, don't I? Listen to how tough I sound. Listen, I'm going to get back to the meat and potatoes in a bit. Wouldn't you rather me be like, all right, it's time for the radio program. But it doesn't work, though, because you can see me and I don't sound.
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You think people want that?
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I don't know. I would love it. I'd be like, this person sounds like a hard ass. I'm listening to this show. That's me, right? Am I the only one who does that?
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I don't think that's how it works.
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But I think it does. No?
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No.
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Okay. Anyway, so if I all of a sudden get into a sneezing fit, just roll with it. Let's pretend it didn't happen, right? Let's just pretend like I'm your drunk relative at the Christmas Thanksgiving table, whatever. Just roll with it. All right, so this Daniel Penny case is one that we're watching for a number of reasons. Obviously, because it's a travesty, number one. But number two, the other reason that... were watching it is because of what this means for self-defense. Do you remember how I've told you so many times that a lot of these instances of self-defense have nothing to do with guns? This is a case of self-defense that has nothing to do with guns. In fact, I think it further That underscores the point that I've been trying to make in that they're not coming after your firearms. That's just the doorway. They're trying to get people to agree with them on guns so that they can go after something else. They want to go after your ability to defend yourself. They want to go after people who dare defend the innocent because this is a system that they have, this system of lawlessness and disorder. They get paid off of the system. So the... Really, the crux of the issue that's being determined here is whether or not you have the ability and the right to defend yourself or whether or not someone else has the ability or right or whether they're allowed to to defend you or themselves. So it's a big deal. And that's the other part of this, which makes it just makes it sad. And how this case comes out, I don't know. I mean, you know, you've had like a ridiculous prosecutor. You've had, I mean, the way that the media has written about this. You had witnesses. I told you guys this in the weeks after Penny's case. There was a woman who, actually not one, there were three women. One was a younger woman. She was a... younger woman with a child in a stroller uh and that she was on the platform there was an older woman and then there was a another like middle-aged woman who was kind of single who was single and going to work and all three of those women told investigators and the new york post actually had the interview with the older woman they told investigators and they also told the press that they felt So much better that Daniel Penny had stepped in because they were terrified for their lives. And the older woman even remarked that Jordan Neely at the time was moving aggressively towards the woman and her baby. I'm going to tell you what, I'm on a subway platform and you're trying to threaten me and my baby. I will flay you. I will flay you like the damn Middle Ages on that platform. I am so tired of this nonsense. Women with their babies should not have to cower in fear because of unchecked. You want to talk about toxic, quote unquote, masculinity? Jordan Neely was toxic, quote unquote, masculine. That man wasn't even masculine. That wasn't even masculinity. He was toxic. That is toxicity. Not Daniel Penny. Daniel Penny is chivalry. That is gallantry. That is a man stepping up and he's protecting the people that he sees being put in danger. Is it the responsibility of the mom trying to protect and shield her baby? from this violent, murderous thug? Is it her responsibility to know his entire life story and to know that he, 10 years ago, he one time impersonated Michael Jackson, whatever the hell that matters? I mean, is it her job to know all of this stuff before she can make a decision? As to whether or not her life and the life of her child are valuable enough to be protected. For her to protect herself or for someone else to step in. Because that's what New York City is deciding right now. That's exactly what they're deciding. So, Jordan Neely is the toxicity. And that's how it, honestly, that's how it should be portrayed. But it's not. It's so sad. And these witnesses, they came out and they were telling the press and investigators, we're so glad that he stepped up. We are so glad. We're so grateful. And thank heavens, you know, he did because who knows what would have happened. Well, we kind of have an idea. And by that, I mean, we kind of know what he would have done because he's already did it. He punched an elderly woman in the face. And actually, at the time of his death, there was a warrant out for his arrest on that. He shattered the nose of an elderly woman. He punched her in the face on the subway platform. He tried shoving another woman onto the tracks of a subway platform. And that was just a few months earlier. I think what the year before is he was trying to... He was on video trying to take a seven-year-old. But you know, guys, he used to... How cutie patootie. He impersonated Michael Jackson 10 years ago. Don't forget there was the Reddit thread where they were warning other subway riders in New York City to specifically watch out for that platform and watch out for him. That is... That's, I mean, that's unbelievable. And Daniel Penny's the problem? The guy, the veteran with no record? Daniel Penny's the problem? New York City's gonna burn itself to the ground and they deserve it. I mean, that's, you know... So that's one of the cases that we're watching, one of the stories that we're watching today. And we'll see. Maybe we'll have a verdict. Maybe we will not. But that's what they're determining right now. Also... A couple of other things. This, let's see here. The ongoing battle for, I guess, some of the sec def stuff. Pete Hegseth is still fighting. I think it's kind of sad that his mom was dragged into it. But now everybody's there. People are sharpening their knives against Joni Ernst because they're saying that she's waging an aggressive battle to defeat his nomination. And everybody's going at Joni Ernst. One of the things you got to realize, and this is why I love not being in D.C. Every time I get an invite to go out to D.C., I'm like, no, not. I can't. Every one of these groups, including a lot of the conservative websites you read, if they don't have advertising on their website, you need to realize they're paid by somebody. If they're not selling ads and they're not selling subscriptions, they are paid by somebody. Conservative websites too. It's a business model. In fact, BuzzFeed was one of the ones to actually do that native advertising as it pertained to a media entity. They had their whole business model set up when they first launched to operate that way. And there are a lot of others that have followed and done the same. So any website, conservative or to the left, but people on the right tend to think that if you're on the right, then you don't do the same stuff, and they do. The reason I say this is because I notice that there are a lot of the websites who I know are in fact, and because I'm friends with a lot of the publishers and it's a distraction to have a fight about it, I know for a fact that they're paid by entities. I know God's honest truth. May lightning strike. They're paid by entities. They get money and then they use that as a way to push certain issues. And it, you know, in the beginning, it would be like, oh, well, it's oil and gas, which, you know, I love oil and gas. I don't care. Things like that. But now there's like different interparty issues where you have someone's group who wants to push someone for something. And they're they're going to like a lot of the influencers that you saw around the primary absolutely were a lot of the stuff that you saw with the amendments in Florida absolutely were. I'm seeing this, these same sites do this with Joni Ernst. And I'm not a big Joni Ernst fan. I don't have anything personally against her. I think she's kind of a moderate. But I just think it is very curious that these websites are now all coming together with the exact same headlines and the exact same stories. I don't like that. Let a candidate stand on their own merit. I don't want to see conservatives do the same BS that the left does. It's the folks over, it's new to the program, Burn a Gun. It's the non-firearm firearm. And Burn a Gun is a good option to have to diversify what you use for self-defense. And it's ideal for environments where guns are banned. I mean, think about it. I mean, there's, I would love to, I always tell people to carry. I have no problem using lethal force. But at the same time, because of the nature of my work, I sometimes have to go to places where I'm not allowed to by the property or the municipality to carry there. But, you know, I can have my burn a gun, my non-firearm firearm. No waiting periods, no background checks. 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So, the Vatican has unveiled the new Popemobile. I'm really disappointed in this. This is a pope for crying out loud. I mean, if I got to walk around in all the robes and everything, you best believe I'm going to be walking out in some, like, Warhammer 40K looking stuff. You know? He's got an all-white electric Mercedes. All-electric white Mercedes. This is... Am I being too picky? I mean, you're the Pope for crying out loud. 40K it up. Walk out and have like those things with the smelly, the potpourri in it. Waving in the front. Like walk out with all of it. Good night.
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Potpourri?
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It should look like a mobile processional. Not this. This looks like a mom's grocery getter. It's electric. Stop. Come on. You know, I mean, if there's anything that the Pope would be good at, it's pageantry. I am let down. Let down. Uh, let's see. Bill Maher said, I don't care. He says he might quit his HBO show after Trump. I don't care. He's a pansy. Uh, you, you know why I'm still mad at Bill Maher? Because Bill Maher, this, this like D list pervert who like once propositioned me an email and I was like, gross. I have an agent at, at UTA. Go talk to them. Uh, came out after Parkland and like accused me of trying to get a reality show with this guy that I've never met. And Bill Maher repeated the Stooges accusations. Maybe they were a part of the Epstein party club together. I don't know. Perverts stick together. And he repeated this guy's accusations on his show. So Bill Maher can go pound sand and all the people who try to kiss his ass for relevance. He can too. Oh, and the body roundness index is replacing the BMI. Some people say this is better. Stick with us. Our partners over at black rifle coffee. It is the best coffee that's out there. Everything else is swill. In fact, it's communist swill that they spit in a cup and then they ran it through a coffee maker. That's what you're getting if you're not getting Black Rifle coffee. So first off, veteran owned, veteran run, and they hire retired and active duty. And they've got so many different roasts. One of their big ones right now is the... Their freedom roast it's what the founders would have drink drank with their beer. Let's be honest over at King Street They would have drank this Every sip is a celebration of liberty and a tribute to those who fought for our nation You can save 20% with code Dana right now the freedom roast so smooth and full of flavor It's over at black rifle coffee comm while you're there check it out the freedom roast because it's available in ground whole bean and 12-count rounds you can also subscribe to black rifles coffee club and You get free shipping and automated orders right to your doorstep. That's so nice. And then you always have the convenience of having your favorite coffee on hand. And they're dedicated over at Black Rifle Coffee to their mission of supporting veterans and first responder causes. They also do that with their business. So check out everything they have to offer. The Coffee Club, the Whole Bean K-Cups, Ready to Drink, Apparel Kettles, Grinders, and so much more. Save 20% using Code Dana and get your freedom on with the Freedom Roast from BlackRifleCoffee.com. And whatever you decide, whatever roast you get, 20% off using Code Dana. Only at BlackRifleCoffee.com.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. And you can follow along on Rumble where we have the discussion, Substack, all that good stuff, Channel 347, DirecTV. So the Hegseth fight is still going. happening over the cabinet pick. Missing is Trump coming out going, I really want him to be confirmed. I'm just pointing this out because everybody's like talking a lot for Trump, except for Trump here. Am I wrong?
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Well, he did say yesterday to keep fighting. I don't know what. So that's way different.
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You know what I mean?
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You mean the actual words that I want him confirmed?
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Yeah. Why can't he just go out and be like, I want him confirmed. Confirm him now. Or stop picking at him or senators shut up. I mean, it's Trump for crying out loud. Don't you think that he's ever, when has he ever been like, oh, I don't know if I should say that. When has he ever been like that?
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No, but I mean, I know that I don't want to speak for anybody else, but I always look at when someone gets nominated, that's him wanting them confirmed.
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Yeah. But he needs to like, I think it's weird to me that he has not gone out and vocally backed up his pick more. I think. I mean, saying that, you know, yeah, keep fighting. That's okay. He said that to like a million other people. That's like a generic run of the mill. This doesn't cost me anything to say. It costs him more to say, I am standing behind my nominee. That's a big difference. I'm just wondering what's happening here. I want to, don't you want to know what's going on behind closed doors? I kind of want to know what's happening. I've been hearing a lot of stuff. I'll tell you what I heard from very well-placed people. Again, I don't dislike Hegseth. I think this is a bunch of Me Too stuff, whatever. I don't dislike him. I don't think that we are short of good choices on the right. It's not like there's a scarcity of opportunity at the table. I think that we need to get rid of that bimbo mindset. But I do think it's weird that he hasn't come out and said, you know, I'm standing behind my nominee. Because there's more fighting over this one than there... I mean, go back and look at Gates. He didn't say anything about Gates either. And then there was like a post on True Social or something or a tweet where he had basically put the nail in the political coffin, so to speak. So that's what I'm looking at. It's odd to me. So I... Like I said, I hear stuff and I don't know what to make of it. Because there's always, you know, there's a lot of stuff that's happening behind the scenes, I guess, as they try to wrangle. Everybody wants their own pick. Everybody wants their own pick. But one of the things that I heard... And again, from a very well-placed source, is that POTUS elect is tiring of seeing all these headlines about Hegseth and the back and forth fighting over it. He wants a win. He wants a home run pick. He doesn't want to have to fight and claw and tooth and nail and have the whole process gummed up. Because remember, what did I tell you from the get-go? He's got to come out blazing in January. He has got to do more in two years than anybody else in history. He really does. He's got to do a lot. And when you are in the confirmation hell process, so to speak, like Hegseth would be, And I'm not saying don't pick them. I'm just saying this is what some of the stuff that I've heard. That's going to take time and it's going to gum up the machine. And it's going to take you a lot longer to get the stuff done that you need done. Because remember, right as we get into this, we've got about a little bit over a year before we get into the midterm process. It is what it is. So what I've heard is that that's the thing that Trump is concerned about. He wants he understands and has listened and knows that he's got to be all gas, no brakes when he comes out. And they've got to act faster than the bureaucracy can respond. And from what I am told by literally people in his inner circle, that he is very well aware of this and it is a priority. So that's very good news. But also, I'm hearing that he is dissatisfied with seeing these headlines about Hegseth in the press. And he does not want any concerns or questions about someone who ultimately is going to be heading up the most powerful department in all of federal government. I mean, yes, you have your Secretary of State and you've got your chain of command. But DOD, SecDef is no mess. And that's a concern that he has. I'm also told that it's two different camps who want two different people and that one camp is very much still backing Hegseth and that the other camp, from what I heard, is the one that suggested the Florida governor's name. So that's where it is. Now, I don't know how that works. I don't even know if the governor or if DeSantis would even accept it. I did not see that one coming, admittedly. Because that's kind of way out of right field, isn't it? And it makes you think. You're like, wait a minute. One of the things I don't want people to be baited into, and I see this as a tactic, right? To support Hegseth. And I think that you can support Hegseth without tearing our other people down. I hate when I see those progressive tactics. It's usually done by people who have not been in the field long. And I hate it because it's cheap and it's unintelligent and it's illiberal. But I see people like, oh, my, they're trying to run up that divide again. between, I guess what, like Trump folks and DeSantis folks. I don't even know why there is a divide. Like what else do you, I mean, good grief. The man went out and endorsed him. And he ran his primary like a man. He didn't win the primary. He didn't take it like a pansy. He was a dude about it. I mean, what the hell else do you people want? You know, I'm like, geez, that's the way you want it to be done. Am I right? I just see people, I see the people bitching and moaning about it. Those are the betas that are bitching and moaning about it. Get over it. And the reason I say that is because you can't have this. We don't have time for this stuff. Like we got to get out there and we got to like all gas, no brakes, like I said. And I see some people who are defending Hegseth use attacking DeSantis as the way to defend Hegseth. And that is not the way. How in the hell are you going to attack literally the most conservative and most successful governor in the United States? one of the most successful Republican governors in our country's history. How are you attacking that guy as like your lame attempt to try to boost up? I like Hegseth too, but you don't have to tear down your own side. It's like the left is structuring these arguments. Here, here's how we can get him to defend this guy while tearing themselves apart. Stop it. Jiminy Christmas, who the hell's driving this crazy bus? So, To me, I just don't I don't know. I don't know. I'm still kind of processing it. But like I said, and these are two different dudes to two different dudes, two different approaches. And I think you got to look at, well, what does DOD need more? And I think this is probably maybe what Trump is weighing. Now, think about it. You're Trump and you're looking at DOD. Guys, we know it's a mess, right? Hi, we all watched people legit falling off planes in Afghanistan. I mean, you remember in the lead up to the evacuation of Kabul. Remember, they went from Bagram or they went from Bagram Air Force Base. Then they they moved everything. They were moving equipment, moving stuff, moving folks all into the Harmeet Karzai Airport, which was in the middle of Kabul, which was weird. They had a base not, you know, that was a little out on the outskirts of the city that was more fortified and better protected. They move everything into the city, into the airport, into the city where you have a lot more entrances and exits that you have to that you have to man and fortify. Excuse me. And then they knew that the Taliban were rolling through Afghanistan. How do they know? Remember the WhatsApp, the WhatsApp conversations? I read a BBC piece where a village had surrendered before the Taliban rolled up, and then they just bypassed the village for time, and they just sent a representative in, I guess, to negotiate terms. How did they do that? They were all on WhatsApp. Taliban was telling everybody, oh, we're coming to your town. We're going to be taken over unless you go ahead and surrender. That's how they were rolling through Afghanistan. They didn't even have to show up and battle half the time, right? So they knew they were coming. They knew it was going to be a thing. They knew they were going to go. They had already their moles in the city. They knew they were going to be there. And so they didn't do anything. DOD didn't do anything. When Milley was asked about it while testifying before Congress, he sort of brushed past it. Because he was asked about chatter beforehand. This wasn't chatter. This was on WhatsApp. Like, easily chat. I mean, they could have seen this easily. And so that's one of the problems. The DEI stuff is a problem. You know, I was talking to someone who is in the, we'll say army leadership about this. And there are a lot of good people in the military that are wanting this stuff to change. And one of the things that you that that people have to realize, too, and I don't envy anybody who has to take over secretary of defense because they are going to have to go in and reorganize house and it's going to be hell. And I was talking to someone pretty high up in the military very recently. I had a meeting and they were talking about recruitment. And I said, respectfully, I don't know how you can sit here and talk to me about recruitment when you've got guys in makeup and skirts who are sitting here talking about, you know, the military. When there were 13 service members who were killed due to dereliction of duty by the upper levels of military leadership. When people when when we all knew CIA, all our intel departments, military knew that Taliban was rolling through Afghanistan using WhatsApp. You know, my guy, when we allow the stuff that we are allowing to happen because you have people like, you know, General Milley and all these other guys that are more interested in DEI than than actually apparently appreciating the tactics necessary to secure victories that we've achieved over the past 20 years. Mike, you're sitting here talking about recruitment. This is what the next generation of people who enlist are seeing. Why the hell would they want to enlist in any kind of outfit that they don't feel not only doesn't have their back, but doesn't even understand the objective? Gives into mission creep. Doesn't even prioritize the objective. That's the issue. And I know that, you know, a lot of this stuff, as far as the DEI stuff, might be few and far between in the military. But you got to realize, too, the military has not been great about messaging things. I'm not talking about the publications that say that they're stars and stripes or whatever, but they're actually owned by a foreign entity. You know, I'm talking about like, you know, there's we live in a new era. Now, that's not to say I don't believe that military members need to need to debase themselves and endure the indignity of having to post stupid things on Instagram all the damn time. But I think explaining things like, you know, how it is that one of the deputies, one of the generals that's in the army was able to cut twenty two billion dollars out of the budget for jets that were going to have old tech and not even be delivered for another decade. I mean, that's pretty significant, right? You don't hear about stuff like that. Why don't we hear stuff like that? Why is nobody talking about it? That's the kind of stuff. There are so many things wrong with DOD. So back to my point, when Trump is looking at all of this, he's got to figure out what kind of leadership do I need to solve this? What do I need to solve this problem? And these are two very different type of people. Very different types of people. And to say that one may have a skill set that the other doesn't have is not an insult to either one. Let's not fall into that stupid trap. That's like saying, well, because you're congratulating men on this, you're saying women are less than. No, stop it. 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So people who feel like they're at the opposite gender when they're 15, 16, they're still adolescents, they should be treated with the same medical urgency as someone who needs period blockers for a different reason, like a true medical.
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Correct. It's a medical condition.
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What about things like mastectomies in general?
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Mastectomies are not done online.
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In general, mastectomies for people who believe that they're a different gender, should that be treated with the same medical urgency as mastectomies for people who have breast cancer?
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Yes. Wow. Wow. We are not the same. We are not the same, y'all. No, no, no, no. Wow. That's the mindset of people. One thing is elective, and it's entirely in your head, and then the other thing is a very real thing. I mean, this is wild. Kane, are you okay over there? I don't know what to say. Your jaw fell off.
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Yeah, I don't know what to say.
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You know, because it's like an aspirin, the risks associated. It's like taking an aspirin, you know.
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But yeah, the one's a mental. So he's right. It is a medical condition. It's a mental condition. One is a medical one that can be treated with actually medicine. The other one requires, you know, therapy.
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Yeah.
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And some work.
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Yeah. Not the same. Not the same. Now you can see the issue before SCOTUS right now. The... Discussions, which we're going to get into because they were hearing the arguments on that Tennessee case about the experimental surgeries and the hormone blockers and all that stuff. Oh, I'm just, you know, I'm just saying. I am just saying. It's very interesting. Indeed. We're going to come back to that. We have a number of things to touch with, to touch on, actually. Let me pull this up because I've got a lot of stuff here. We've got, obviously, the ongoing Daniel Penny case. Another interesting story, Jeff Bezos. has come out and said he is very optimistic about the incoming administration and is now offering to help streamline regulations. And he dismissed concerns about Elon Musk leveraging government power against competitors. Now, you've seen a lot of people like even, you know, Zuckerberg go to meet with Trump and, you know, all of this. I'm wondering... You know, are they all wanting to get involved because they don't want Musk to have that advantage of being that close to the administration? Or are they really supportive? I don't know. I think it may be both. We'll talk. Stick with us. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, All Family Pharmacy has you covered. Whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support, or general well-being, All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin. hydroxychloroquine or any other effective medications they have it all and you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days medications start as low as three dollars per capsule making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank no insurance needed you can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10. Welcome back to the program. We're at the top of the second hour. You're a lovable retired curmudgeon. I'm in a Christmas plaid shirt, so if you're not watching the simulcast of the radio program, which you can see on Rumble or Channel 347 DirecTV, you're missing out because I don't wear a lot of color. It's a Christmas plaid, right? A plaid, isn't it? As the Scots would say.
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It's lumberjack-y.
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Yeah, I feel like I want to go chop some trees, you know, and like pet some reindeer and whatever the hell else, like the Paul Bunyan types do. I'm just saying. So anyway, welcome. Welcome to the show. I saw this story of this, I don't know who this chick is. I don't want to give her attention. She's like a wannabe Media Matters thing. And she's very upset because apparently at one point, You know how when people do like podcasts or when they're doing digital specials, sometimes they have drinks. They'll sip some whiskey or something like that, especially if it's like a veteran show. It's not unusual. I mean, there's different regulations for public actual broadcast airwaves and then digital. So, like, you can't... You know, if you're running stuff, you can't be drinking when... Like, we, being on terrestrial stations, have different rules that we have to go by than if you're just doing, like, a podcast or just digital. And so, Hegseth apparently did a... an episode for a Fox digital thing where they were, he was sitting with a group of veterans and they were talking about war and military issues and things like that. And they were all sipping whiskey. They weren't doing shots. They were sipping whiskey as one should, you know, that's how you have, that's how you partake. And this broad on X is super upset. She's like, oh my gosh, look, people were saying that Pete Hegseth actually drank on the set for one of his shows. And I'm looking at this like, first off, it's a digital don't act like it's like a Fox and Friends episode because it's not. It's a digital thing. And that's a commonplace thing for a lot of these shows. They sit around. They have very casual conversations and it's a longer viewing period. And so it's way more casual. So stop it. But number two, let me let me make sure I understand this properly. Right. You have the broads of the ideology where they think, hey, it's okay, just make my mattress like McDonald's, a thousand served under these arches, a billion served under these arches. Have a rotating kiosk of intimate partners, believe in abortion on demand, supported by the taxpayer up until the moment of birth. But he sipped some whiskey on a digital thing that he did for Fox, and that's what you're going to clutch your pearls over? For real? Like, just let's compare the ideologies here. Again, because this chick is on the far left. So, yes, abortion on demand. Facilitated by the taxpayer up until the moment of birth. No personal responsibility. Nothing like that. If you make an error regarding recreational intercourse, then, well, you can just undo your error by killing the baby. You know, that's okay. But sipping some whiskey. You see what I mean? I've been saying this for years. Someone wrote a book about it after I've been saying it for years. These neo-Puritans on the left that want the enforcement but not the principle. It's weird. We're showing you some of the exact that episode right now. Now you're seeing this that Juan's showing you on the simulcast. It does not look like they're doing shots, Cain. They're sipping. It's a sipper in a very casual setting. They're actually in somebody's basement, I think. Somebody's walkout basement. I don't know where the hell they are. Or a bunker. And, I mean, he didn't even shave. So they're there. I mean, so?
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This is like man cave stuff.
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Yeah. It's dude stuff. Nobody's doing shots. They're not drinking irresponsibly. So this is actually some of the evidence that they're trying to say disqualifies him. For real. Man alive. I don't know. I just think that I can't really take criticisms about standards from the let's get rid of babies as a form of birth control party. I mean, if that's your ideology, you legit have no room to criticize anybody doing anything else. Not at all. So that's some of the latest that they keep trying to shove out because I keep seeing that over and over again. I keep seeing it brought up I'm like, I just don't think that that's that's not what drink that's they make it sound like he's doing like doing a cabinet kegger. Oh, he's drinking on the job. That's so goofy. That's just that's stop. Stop, stop, stop. Now, some of the other stuff that I wanted to have, we got some audio, too. I don't I want to play this video cane. It's in Slack, but it's very juvenile.
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Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
So you guys remember Eric farts? I mean, Swalwell.
SPEAKER 06 :
Verbal typo.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's a verbal typo. It was completely an innocent error. I need to discuss this video just because it's funny and I need a palate cleanser. And also, wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's almost Friday.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, you know, it is. Like I said, next week everybody's going to be drunk on eggnog. Half of you are going to be paying attention. So let me get your attention. This is Zoe Lofgren. She's a Democrat, of course. What is up with people from California and their personal gas issues? I don't get it. She just let her rip tater chip right there on CNN. Go ahead. Roll tape. Watch her eyes.
SPEAKER 09 :
That power of the purse is with the legislative branch, not the president.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I do want to ask you, because of your work on the January 6th committee.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you need a wipe after that. Dana, you're juvenile. I am. Hi. Did we meet just now? Did we? That's the smartest thing that was said on CNN all week, believe it or not. Smartest thing. Crazy, right? That fart is going to get its own contributorship. It's going to happen. Zoe Lofgren's fart. CNN contributor.
SPEAKER 06 :
It'll be Toobin and Tootin. I can see it now. It'll be like, you know, the big show.
SPEAKER 08 :
It can host a show with, yeah, Jeffrey Toobin.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Toobin can host it with, hosted by Jeffrey Toobin and Zoe Lofgren's fart. Yeah, there you go right there. I mean, it is. I know. I totally know that it's juvenile, and I love it all the same. Love it all the same. And notice Jim Acosta's face. Jim Acosta has this thing where he looks at his monitor. So if you're watching the simulcast, I'm looking right at the camera. I don't have a teleprompter. I have a giant screen in front of me that I refer to for notes or if I'm reading, quoting something for you. And then I have a monitor that shows me the program right below it. So you can't really see unless you kind of can. If I'm looking right at the camera, if I'm looking at the monitor for some reason, it's like CNN's monitors are five feet under the camera. I don't get it because he's not looking at the camera. He's looking all the way down at the monitor. So when you're the viewer and you're watching, even when he's only when he's, unless he's reading the prompter, Does he look at the camera? He doesn't look at it unless he's reading the prompter. He's always like this. Always. If you go find clips of Jim Acosta, this dumbass cannot look at the camera to save his life. He's constantly looking down at the monitor. And I'm like, dude, bro, look at the camera. But then it then it makes me wonder, well, how low are those monitors? Like, look at where his eyes are. His eyes are like all the way. I mean, his whole head's turned down. How far away from the camera? The monitor should be right underneath it to where there's not really. And the monitor is just, you know, so you can kind of see, you know, take a glimpse for like show elements. Like sometimes I'll look at it if we're doing like a side by side or something to make sure because I move so much that I'm not aggravating Juan. And I'm like in the middle of the shot because Juan is obsessed with symmetry. Because he's good at his job. That's what he does. He's like, everything's got to be symmetrical. Everything's got to be in its place. So I try to help out by not going everywhere. So I'll refer to the monitor. He always stares at it. And then I noticed when he's questioning people. Remember when he was in the White House press corps? I because I was looking at some of these videos on break. He doesn't look at people in the face when he's asking them a question. I've noticed this even when and one of the videos that came up was that were that time that he grabbed that woman's arm when he was questioning Trump remember and they were having a very it was like he was having a very heated you know Q&A it was a White House press avail and even then he was not he would not look at anybody in the face it's weird he's a weird cat he's a weird dude I don't know. I mean, maybe Zoe Loughran's fart is going to take over a show because, I mean, at least that looks right in the face. Just saying. Can we hear it again, please? Steve is obsessed with us. Steve was the one who was like, watch your eyes. I only heard it once. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
That power of the purse is with the legislative branch, not the president.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I do want to ask you because of your work on the January 6th committee.
SPEAKER 08 :
That almost sounded like a video game effect. Right? Trying to think what that reminded me of. What video game sound does that remind me of something? Yeah, I don't know. But so I thought that was that was the smartest thing that has been said on. Yeah, smartest thing that's been said on CNN. Interesting headline in England. Muhammad becomes the most popular baby name. And as of 2023, Muhammad was also the fourth most popular baby boy name in Europe. There's a lot of Mohammed's. That's I. You're not ever going to be able to pinpoint when someone was born by their name. If you're all named the same, you know, because you can do that with names like Jennifer's. Do you know anybody who's named Jennifer now who's like under 30? Yeah. You don't know a single Jennifer under the age of 30. What about like a Kelly? Kelly, under 30? Uh-huh. Nope. You don't. Think about it. Stacey? You don't know anybody named Stacey anymore. Under 30. Nobody. Right? Yeah. Everyone's like Madison and Hannah and, you know, like Bella and all that kind of stuff. That's everybody's name. Everybody's named after like a Barbie. That's what it sounds like. Skipper. But it's true. You know, it's true. But so Mohammed is now it's the most popular baby boy name in England. And in 2023, like I said, it was the fourth most popular boy name in Europe. It overtook it overtook Noah. And and that's even in England and Wales. Followed by Noah and Oliver. Hmm. So, and it's been in the top 10 since 2016. In 2023, 4,661 boys were given the name Mohammed, beating out the 4,382 boys named Noah. Third was Oliver, followed by George, Leo, and Arthur. Oliver's a very popular name, apparently. So, I don't know. Just interesting. Interesting. And it's clearly due to the religious significance in the increasing Muslim population in the two countries, which has doubled since 2001. Fast growing. So that's the reason for the name's dominance. And. I love how the spokesperson, there was a spokesperson for this Middle Eastern news outlet who said, well, yes, it coincides with the increasing diversity in names for boys generally. Not if it's all Mohammed. What are you talking about?
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SPEAKER 06 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Cuba's electric grid has collapsed after a power plant failure. Their early Wednesday morning after the failure, Energy and Mines Ministry said, plunging millions of people into darkness. This has been happening for the past two months. Their power and generation systems have fallen into disarray amid fuel shortages, natural disasters, and economic crisis. The Mines Ministry said that they're working to reconnect the electrical system. Good heavens. That's just... Amazon is sued by a D.C. attorney... for the dcag excuse me for allegedly excluding neighborhoods from prime delivery uh this according to cnbc they uh said that the the lawsuit was first filed in 2022 but they said that amazon stopped using its own delivery trucks in two different zip codes due to safety concerns and they said that that caused more than 48 000 prime members To see slower delivery speeds than the rest of the district, despite the fact that they paid for the same subscription and they had the same subscription fees. Well, if it's unsafe. I mean, if it's unsafe, then, you know, that's what it is, unfortunately. Also, excuse me. The FBI is warning iPhone and Android users to stop sending texts. Now they're saying to stop sending unencrypted texts because of everything from Chinese cyber attacks to all kinds of stuff. But the US Cyber Defense Agency, FBI and CISA are warning people, and this is at Forbes, to use responsibly encrypted messaging and phone calls when they can. And they said that's because of the Chinese hacking of U.S. networks is likely larger in scale than previously understood, is what they're saying. Hmm. The world's oldest known wild bird lays an egg at 74 years of age. This old, old bird. It's an albatross. They got it on film too. Interesting. We got more in store. Stick with us. ReadyWise is always ready. And you know the chain of command for your food, which is very important. I mean, you're talking about survival food. Excuse me. And you want to be able to trust where you get your food from. And so with ReadyWise, you have U.S. ingredients packed in a U.S. plant, sent out from that plant right to you, and you can get free and fast shipping on most orders, making sure that your provisions reach you promptly. And they have all kinds of product choices to meet every budget, like the emergency one-month supply two-bucket bundle. They also have the three-month emergency food supply. And by the way, all of this is designed – by their team of in-house culinary experts to make sure that you're getting the nutrition that you need, the caloric count, your daily protein, the healthy carbs, all of it. And you get a wide range of choices for each time of the day. It's the ultimate in premium survival food without sacrificing your wallet and best taste as well. Comfort in a crisis and beyond with a 25-year shelf life. Visit ReadyWise.com and use promo code Dana20 at checkout for 20% off of your entire purchase. That's ReadyWise.com, promo code Dana20 for 20% off.
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SPEAKER 03 :
True in every respect. But on page 195 of the cast report, it says there is no evidence that gender affirmative treatments reduce suicide.
SPEAKER 11 :
What I think that is referring to is there is no evidence in the studies that this treatment reduces completed suicide. And the reason for that is completed suicide, thankfully and admittedly, is rare. And we're talking about a very small population of individuals with studies that don't necessarily have completed suicides within them. However, there are multiple studies long-term longitudinal studies that do show that there is a reduction in suicidality, which I think is a positive outcome to this treatment.
SPEAKER 08 :
So this is the ACLU's attorney, the trans attorney, who was trying to present as an argument for her case that gender, I hate this phrase, I'm not saying gender affirmative, the experimental surgeries and the chemical castrations and the puberty blockers and the hormones and all of this stuff, the elective mastectomies, all of it, that it reduces suicide. That was what they were trying to argue in the beginning. And now when they have to actually provide any something substantial to support their their argument, they are unable to. And they have to, I mean, they have to relent and acknowledge that there's no evidence in these studies that it reduces suicide. Cain keeps going back to suicidality. Yeah, you like that word?
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, it's everything. It's like, but people think about it, though, is the thing. People think about suicide. So that's why we need these surgeries, because people think about suicide.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, being suicidal, and then that's a very different, what they're trying to, I mean, that's a Ma Bailey.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
That doesn't make any sense. Exactly. That's so stupid. I mean, you're either... I mean, there's a medical evaluation for that. And literally, there's criteria already established to determine whether or not someone is suicidal, clearly. This is just them trying to shore up this losing argument. They're not going to... It doesn't look like the court is going to lean their way. But we'll see. Just...
SPEAKER 06 :
Other countries have done the studies and they realize that there's no future in this path that's good for humanity.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's why they're banned in Europe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly right. And they know that this is the end game here, but they're trying to play the drama up. The media is trying to do that now with this SCOTUS situation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, Lorraine made note of this. I didn't. Someone else did. Because I had this thought that I wasn't going to say anything because I thought I was the only one. No, Lorraine just came out with it in Slack. Lorraine's going to learn real quick. She goes, the lawyer's name is Chase Strangeo. LOL. AKA Chasing Strange. I'm dead. I'm dead. It sounds like a very fancy way of saying, I mean, you could say Chasing Strange. That's just, you know, or Chasing Strangeo. Strangio. Chasing the Strangio. I don't know. Gosh, so you guys know what that means. No, I'm not going to explain it. Don't Google it. Do not. I feel like they're doing it when I say to not, Cain.
SPEAKER 06 :
But that can't be real. Is that the real name?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's what her name is.
SPEAKER 06 :
That can't be real.
SPEAKER 08 :
Chase Strangio.
SPEAKER 06 :
That cannot be real. So there's nothing real about this person.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's like someone's name.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, don't do it. You're going to do it, aren't you? Don't do it. Don't do it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know, like if their first name was Michael.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. No, I know what you mean. I get it.
SPEAKER 08 :
And his parents are the Hunt family.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 1 :
What?
SPEAKER 08 :
Nothing. Just saying. It's like a joke, almost like jokey like that, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Chase Strangio. What a name. Like, of all the names you could... For real, like, if you're going to change all that about yourself, maybe don't make your name Chasing Strange. It's like Chasing Amy, but not. Right? You all right over there? Yeah. I don't know, man. I blame Lorraine for that one.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's all her, man. They even have a real lawyer?
SPEAKER 08 :
Is she a real lawyer? She has... She's a lawyer. She's with the ACLU, whatever that means.
SPEAKER 06 :
But is the she part the lawyer or is the he part the lawyer?
SPEAKER 08 :
Nah, she's a lawyer.
SPEAKER 06 :
Did she take the bar or did he take the bar?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, does it matter?
SPEAKER 06 :
I thought it did.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know. But still, that's the argument that they're having. That's the Supreme Court. Like I said, I still feel like SCOTUS, especially with some of the questioning, it feels like they're leaning towards... Not I mean, in favor of Tennessee is what it sounds like. But, you know, I'm still we'll see. It's a. All right, we've got... I'm looking at some... There's like a bunch of odds and ends stuff. Like I've got Doge stuff. We've been talking about the cabinet nominees and this thing with SecDef, which I think we're not going to know until Trump actually just comes out and says, hey guys, I'm either going to stand behind my nominee or I feel like maybe... Maybe we need to have somebody else because there's been a lot of rumors about DeSantis and all this. So we'll see. But I will say that one of the other moves, and I'm going to go to Doge just because I like saying it. One of the other things that we've seen is this department. I was actually shocked at this. So Luke Rosiak, who does really good work and he's done stuff with Daily Caller, etc. He had said in this in his examination of the federal workforce, I did not know it was this much. He had said that 94 percent of the feds of the federal government still works from home. The EPA had poisonous water in its own headquarters because it was sitting in the pipes stagnant from disuse. USDA inspectors claim that they inspect food facilities for safety issues from home. It's 2024. 94% of them still work from home. What in the world? He noted that the Social Security Administration just spent $120 million renovating its massive headquarters. But the building is 91% unused. And Biden just signed an agreement giving them, all the way through the Trump administration, I mean, to be able to continue using this building, even though Biden used his 2022 speech to say workers have to come back to the office and be productive. At the VA, their website states that you can break away from the traditional nine to 540 hour work week. One third of calls to one mental health hotline for veterans went unanswered. This is unreal. Unreal. So apparently now. It looks like this might be one of the first things Doge cuts. It might be one of the very first things that they cut. When you look at how before the pandemic, apparently it was only 3% of the federal workforce that worked from home or teleworked or whatever. Before the pandemic, 3%, like barely 3%. Now they said 6% report in person on a full-time basis, one-third entirely are remote. The government spends $16 billion a year to operate all of its buildings, the properties that it puts all this stuff in, right? And so even knowing that, even knowing that, They only have an occupancy rate of 12%.
SPEAKER 1 :
12%.
SPEAKER 08 :
Even GSA, and that's the General Services Administration, that's the entity that manages federal real estate. They work from home. Their base in Missouri came. Unbelievable. Like the EPA. That's how Luke Rosiak noted that they had dangerous bacteria in their water, according to an audit, because the water was left in the pipes stagnant from disuse. But yet they have the unions, which I don't think public sector unions absolutely have no place in American society. Private unions are one thing. I don't have an issue with private unions. Public unions, where the government gets to sit at the table with big fat cat public unions, Funded by the taxpayer bosses and taxpayers are told that we don't get to have a say in it. Oh, hell no. And a lot of them taxpayers are private unions to private working private sector unions. Does that sound like it's fair? Hell no, it doesn't. And but you have the public unions that are demanding full individual workstations for each employee being maintained in the event that they're used. those rare occasions so now it looks like because one of the things musk has said is that if people don't want to come into work then they can go find another job i agree but you know what what's more if it's shown that we don't need all this then why do we have it if we don't need all these employees why do we have them I think we need to eliminate a lot of these offices entirely. Social Security Administration, give everybody money back. Stop government spending. Take it all down to Article 1, Section 8. Return money to the people. Eliminate it. Eliminate Department of Education. Eliminate Social Security Administration. Eliminate DHS. I mean, I could go on, on and on and on. But it requires an austerity that most people, including Republicans, don't have the spine to endure. This congressman says it's absurd to get rid of the Department of Education. Listen.
SPEAKER 14 :
I've got many examples where CBO has absolutely failed to adequately assess the cost. I think with the issue of getting rid of the Department of Education, for example, they claim it would cost millions and millions and millions of dollars to get rid of an agency. That makes no sense at all. You're getting rid of an agency that costs us $80 billion a year, and yet it's supposed to cost us more money if we get rid of it.
SPEAKER 08 :
That just is absurd. It's not going to cost you more money if you get rid of it. Do you realize the amount of spending that we do per student in some of these states where you have the worst academic performances? What the states spend per student actually exceeds about 90% of private school tuition per student. When I was in Ohio for an event, I think it was they were telling us that they spent over $13,000. I think it was over $13,000. Let me check my notes. The spending... student per student in Ohio. Oh, sorry, I was under. It's over $15,000 per student. In fact, the approximate average is $15,427 per pupil. And that's in Ohio. In some states, it's higher. Illinois, it's higher. California, it's higher. New York, it's higher. I was at an event and I was talking with a family. They have three kids and their kids are in private Christian school. And their private tuition per student was cheaper than what they spend public school per pupil. Now, I homeschooled my kids and then they went to a Christian school. And we spent less per pupil than what the state of Texas spent, spends per pupil. We spent less on their per student tuition than what the state... That's unreal. My point in telling you this is that when you talk about school choice, what you're talking about is allowing all that money that you're paying into these schools that are not performing, a department of education that has been failing your kids ultimately since its inception, and allowing you... to choose a better education for your kids. People who argue against school choice, they don't want your kids better educated. They want you to be as uneducated as they can make you. They don't want your children to, they don't want them, they don't believe in upward economic mobility and they use this as a weapon against it. That is what this is. They don't want you choosing a better school for your child. These people who want to deny you the right of what to do with the money you work for and the child that you are raising. Now you can see why this is such a common denominator issue for so many. Republicans need to be louder and louder and louder about this. Life can take a toll on our bodies. There's no way around it. And whether it's just sitting for hours on end at your computer or if you're working a physical job, over time, your body pays the price. There is, however, an effective way to turn back the clock on pain. Relief Factor. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor helps support your body's response to inflammation. And the difference, instead of just masking pain, Relief Factor helps eliminate it for good. And it's 100% drug-free. My husband, Chris, has taken Relief Factor with incredible results. So if the pains that come with living a full life are affecting you, do as many others have done and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. Their three-week quick start is just $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. And when you feel good, it's amazing how much more you get out of life. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Try it for only $19.95 and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. Relieffactor.com.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 08 :
Jeez, straws, axes. So this Florida man, a saw-swinging Florida man, struck a guy during a wrong-way driving argument. Boy, oh boy. Yeah. So this Fort Myers Lee County Sheriff's Office, an argument over a wrong-way driving, landed one man in jail and another with non-life-threatening injuries. Rolando Ruiz Alonzo. Too many names, Rolando. He was the primary aggressor in the altercation. And according to police, the old dude began swinging a... Was it a saw or not? A saw-like tool toward a victim as the argument escalated and the victim was struck. And then he also used a piece of ceramic pottery as a weapon. He was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. I guess, I mean, he was driving the wrong way and got called out. I don't know. But good heavens, like there's... How many people have saws and machetes there? It's like people just go to their trucks and get them. Here's my machete. Okay. Here's my saw. A Florida man who was accused of murder was captured after TikTok revealed his whereabouts. People overshare. He shot and killed his girlfriend in front of her two children while they were at a cemetery of all places. St. Petersburg police were searching for him for three and a half years. No success. And then a video of a local news story was shared on TikTok. He was in Mexico and it showed him in Mexico and they were able to get him. So now he's been charged with first degree murder and two counts of child abuse. They just happened to get him. So, wow. They just happened to see him in the background of this news story. He was in Mexico. Not really hiding out too well, I guess. We have our third hour on the way and the latest with just all the latest. Stick with us. Welcome back to the program, your lovable retired goth, Dana Lash, in a Christmas-played Here, back at the top of this third hour, you can find the discussion over a rumble. You can also find us on YouTube and find us on X as well. Channel 347, DirecTV, the best of in the podcast. So all good things. So a few, I got to tell you, and we've been watching all of this stuff. As it pertains to the we were talking about Doge a little bit ago, and a lot of these cabinet picks, etc, etc. And I saw I had I saw this story last night, and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it. And I got aggravated. I always get mad at people who think that politics began the day that they signed up for an X account. Because some of us have been out here busting our edible snakes for quite some time, pushing it back against rhinoism, right? And you always get these drive-bys who are like, oh, I can't believe people think that Republicans are... you know, like the party of a small government or whatever. And I'm like, you know, broad, first off, you know, drop the drunk bridesmaid act. I get that you, you know, when you created your ex account, you think that all politics began that the day that you became self-aware, but some of us have been out here doing the heavy lifting while you could sit here and go and get your overfilled face done and your ratty ass extensions. And you could try to like talk platitudes about it on X. Stop. I get so aggravated over this stuff. Stop it. A lot of people out there have been doing the heavy lifting. A lot of you out there have been doing the heavy lifting, pushing back, calling your lawmakers, holding everybody accountable. And we're not going to be judged by people who just opened a drive by account and all of a sudden want to weigh in like, you know, they're the generals of the movement. Stop it. We're not doing it. And I specifically got aggravated over this one post that I saw from Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas. So he he posted this. Did you see this, King? This is going to be up your alley. It's in Slack. He said it's a major legislative initiative to ban all THC. Thousands of stores have opened to sell all types of dangerous products with unlimited THC. And these stores even target your children is what he's saying. Let me read it first off. Oh, don't roll your eyes. I don't care if you're I'm not Tommy Chong. Okay. I'm no Tommy Chong, but I know government overreach when I see it. That's what this is about. Today, it's about whatever the hell THC. Tomorrow, it's guns. You don't know. So he had this, he wants to ban all THC. Thousands of stores have opened to sell all types of dangerous products. What? Wait, there's more. He's talking about This representative, Tracy King, this bill, blah, blah, blah. Part of the bill allowed for the commercialization of hemp, which might include unremovable, non-intoxicating trace amounts of Delta 9 THC. Quote, dangerously, retailers exploited the agriculture law to sell life-threatening, unregulated forms of THC to the public and made them easily accessible. They sold them to adults, and they targeted Texas children, exposed them to dangerous levels of THC. I mean, they keep saying the word dangerous, and then they use the word life-threatening levels in another sentence. I'm sorry. Excuse me? Okay. Again, I'm no Tommy Chong here, but... I'm pretty sure that you would have to have all the THC on Earth in order for it to be considered dangerous. Am I correct? I was talking to some of my more pot-minded associates about this. So, yes, maybe we know people in California. I don't partake in any of this. But they get so into the, like, what am I thinking of? The artisanal marijuana. It is hysterical. How it is not a reality show, I do not know. If you've ever tried to see hippies turn into bougie entrepreneurs, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. God love it. But anyway, Kane, don't they include a tiny amount? I mean, it's not like they're tripping acid.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, no, it's not unlimited. It's definitely limited. There's only so much.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, you can regulate it. From what I understand, it's already Texas law that it's regulated.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is regulated. So that's a lie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dan Patrick published a lie.
SPEAKER 06 :
He's talking about.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm so surprised.
SPEAKER 06 :
He's talking about the THC that they've in the lab removed a molecule so that it isn't. the illegal THC-9 on the federal level. So he's talking about the THCs that have had the molecules removed so that they're a different THC from the THC-9, and he's saying that those are dangerous. So it's a little bit different because this is sort of a laboratory thing that's created for these vapes and the consumption for people. So I don't know. He's technically not lying, though.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't want to sound like Joe Rogan talking about this stuff. And that's not an insult, but I'm just not a pot person. I'm not, I'm not, but I just am like, this is big government. This is big government.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, without a doubt it is. Oh, without a doubt. It absolutely is.
SPEAKER 08 :
So the same government that was like, y'all better get these shots. Now it was like, no, you can't have gummies. Right? Same, same people. Right. And we are to listen to them. Why?
SPEAKER 06 :
I can't sell you on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
No means no, Texas government.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's not what AOC says.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, okay, because you guys think it's funny that I know so little about football. Wait until you hear me talk about marijuana. This is Kane's other favorite. Because what did I tell you yesterday? How did I say it yesterday? I was like, well, doesn't THC, doesn't that just make you like fat because of munchies and suspicious?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it was suspicious and fat? That's what you said.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, doesn't it just make you suspicious and fat?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I'm like, what? What do you mean? Paranoid? Yes. And get the munchies?
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Yes. Because isn't that like the common thing? It's like you're always paranoid. And so there are a couple of people I know who actually work in this industry, like I was saying. And both of them are veterans. And one of them we just met, but we know somebody that does this. It's like a lot of veterans use it, especially to help manage PTSD, because they don't want to be hooked on big pharma stuff. They don't want to have to take like these, you know, psychotropic drugs and all of this. And they just need, you know, and it helps them to relax at night or whatever. I don't have any problem with that. I don't know why anybody, mind your business. I mean, for crying out loud, it's a gummy. And they put, from what I understand, like a tiny percentage of whatever in it. It's not like people are going out there, you know, tripping beans and acting like Beta or Rourke, breaking and entering and drunk driving. Nobody's doing that.
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I know, and it's this kind of work by the government that actually has us putting our names on lists when we want to get pseudofed for our nose running or something. That's what big government, this is what will end up happening.
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Someone was saying that it was similar to taking melatonin. I was reading that in the comments. I take like 10 milligrams. Sometimes I'll take 20 of melatonin. I'm actually trying to take less because I get so groggy. I'm so groggy in the morning. But I take 10 milligrams of melatonin a night. I'm definitely not out there being dangerous on 10 milligrams of melatonin. If it's, if, if what I have been told and what I've read that it is similar in terms of like relaxing you, which is why a lot of veterans take it and they take it.
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No, I don't. Okay.
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I don't get suspicious and fat. No, that's because it doesn't have the pot in it. It's not just melatonin, like the fast dissolve melatonin tablet. Right. I mean, I'm just saying, why, why is this an issue that they're focusing on in Texas? No, I get that people can walk and chew gum at the same time. But out of nowhere, let's go after the THC. And from what I'm understanding, it's a tiny... I don't want the government involved in anything else. No, Texas should be shrinking government, not expanding it. This is just big government. And I don't care if you're a pot person or not. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. I mean, this is a variable. What have I always told you? In all of these instances, guns are a variable. Pot is a variable. Look at all of this. It's the same formula. They just switch out the variables. That's it. That's it.
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I wonder if on a federal level, the fact that they're talking about changing the schedule of it.
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I think they're trying to nationalize all regulation of it to create an industry for themselves that they can monopolize.
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I wonder if this is just Texas' response to that potential. I have no idea, though.
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I don't think so. That's not how I look at it. I mean, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I mean, I like being correct on issues. I'm not, you know, I'm not a petty partisan. But to me, from when I was reading this, like, why do you need to ban it? They're not trying to... They just want to ban everything. Why do you need to ban it? And sorry, they're not targeting the kids. They're not. That sounds like a gun grabber argument. Oh, you're marketing these guns to kids. No one is selling... THC to kids. Have you seen these stores? No offense to anyone, but I'm going to be very honest. Okay. You know what do they look like? Do you want to, you know what they look like? They look like, oh gosh, you're going to, they look like white trash boomer places. I'm sorry, but they do. It's like, they're so uncool looking. They are so uncool. They're uncool. Kids don't want to go to an uncool place. It's not like they're sticking Barney out front or whatever the hell furry. They're not sticking that stuff out front. You know, come on, stop it. Stop it. I'm not making nobody get mad because I'll print out your email and I will I will roll over it with my mini segue that I got six years ago on Amazon for Mother's Day. And then I'll take it to the range and shoot Buckeye through it or birdshot through it. So stop it. But you know what I mean? They look like adult places. It doesn't look cool. They don't look cool. Kids are not going to go to a place that doesn't look cool. I seriously take issue with the whole marketing to the kids thing. That's what big government always says with stuff that it wants to ban. Oh my gosh. It's going after the kids. Wait, the same government that's going after the kids trying to cut their genitals off and flip their genders against the wishes of their parents? Suddenly this government's all worried about the kids? Oh, what? The same government that lost hundreds of thousands of kids that it allowed to come across the border illegally. Suddenly that same government, oh my goodness, we can't have these cannabis stores targeting the kids. Just can't have it, Cain. Can't have these cannabis stores going after the kids, no.
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I've seen the ingredients list on like Fruit Loops. They're allowing some pretty poisonous stuff. to our kids eat it right in front of the TV.
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They literally use a bird to advertise it to the kids.
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Yes, directly to the kids.
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Come eat our cancer cereal, kids. Full of cancer. Yeah, I'm not really going to pay attention to the government. So out of all the, and you know what? Lieutenant Governor Patrick has come on the show before. Can we have, let's bring him on again to talk about that. He's going to be like, oh my gosh. We get along with him so well, even when he's so wrong. We're so nice because he's very genteel. But I'm just like the same guy. Is anybody else fed up with the government telling you what you can and can't do, especially after, I don't know, the whole Wu flu drama? Yeah. So it seems like I'm just done with it. The same government that was doing all this stuff. that was shilling out books about oral sex to your kids in elementary school. The same government. Oh, we don't like these. These stores are targeting the kids. No, they're not. You are. Stop. We got more on the way.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Oh, man. I just remembered it's time to watch Nightmare Before Christmas. Deadly Nightshade. Movie actress dies at a Mexican spiritual retreat after consuming deadly monkey frog potion. What gave you the idea that this might be deadly? Anything that's a monkey frog potion already sounds like it's going to be deadly. Why do people do this? So it's I don't think you need to say movie actress, but they did this strange potion. They said dates back to the Inca period. And oh, it's meant to cause uncontrollable diarrhea and vomiting for consumers, which supposedly acts as a cleanse. So Marcella Rodriguez, she apparently decided that she was going to do this and it didn't work out well for her. It's 40 times stronger than morphine. Oh, my gosh. Why? Who's like, you know, well, you're going to basically leak out of everything to death. That's how it's going to work for you. Who wants to go, okay, let's do that? No. It was in Durango, northern Mexico. I mean, it literally took hours to kill her. They're doing an autopsy, but you pretty much have an idea of how that happened, I was going to say. That's horrible. An officer uses a... An officer uses a child's bicycle chasing down a felony suspect. And there's body cam footage and it's actually hysterical. He was not near a squad car. He used a little kid's bicycle to go after the felon. He commandeered a kid's bike to continue the pursuit, said the department in its paperwork. And it was a bright lime green bike too, which is funny. They got him. He got him. He caught the suspect, charged him with felony theft. The guy also had three other outstanding warrants. And they said the suspect might have had a scooter, but Officer Tarr had determination and a kid's bike. Yeah, he thought he was going to get away on a motorized scooter, but it wasn't going to happen. Not with Officer Tarr. He was on it. I mean, and kudos to the kid who let him take the bike. Juan's showing you the footage right now. He grabs the kid's bike, and he's like, here we go. Here we go. We're going after him. I mean, this actually makes me want to now ride a bicycle. Right? Remember how fun this was back in the day? Oh, yeah. This was fun. By the way, this is what Peloton should have had. Peloton should have had, like, revisiting your childhood by riding your, instead of the stupid stuff that they had. They favored us. Yeah, going through the neighborhood. Let's see here. Oh, the worst time to shoplift. Here's an idea. If you're shopping with a cop, don't steal while you're doing it. And they did this as a Walmart event, their annual shop with a cop. And someone who was shopping with a cop decided to steal from the Walmart. Didn't work out well for him. Stick with us. We've got more in store.
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Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. I've been seeing these stories about now Joni Ernst hitting, saying that she supports transgender inclusion in the military and wants to require females to register for the draft. And this is like some story. She's talked about this before, like on PBS or whatever show that is. She's discussed it before. And she had said that that women are perfectly capable of contributing in combat, et cetera, et cetera. So all this is is and she's expressed support for requiring women to register for the draft. Look, you don't have to tell me all this stuff about Joni Ernst. I mean, I know this. I mean, we've kind of criticized this before. But I think it's coming out now because they are... This whole thing with Pete Hegseth and she's been very critical. I guess has not wanted to say that she supports Pete Hegseth for SecDef. I don't agree with her about women in combat. And I don't think that... I don't believe in a draft. I don't. I actually, my grandfather, God rest his soul, who enlisted in World War II, he didn't wait to be drafted. He was so ornery. He's like, no, I'm going, like day after Pearl Harbor. He's like, I'm out. I'm going. He understood, or well, at least he says that he understood the need for a draft and that you have to defend your country, et cetera. And I don't see, I just, I'm not in favor of a draft. And I don't think that women should be added to the draft. I don't think men should be. This whole argument about how my body, my choice, women say that superficially, but men can actually say it. Because as long as we have a draft, it's not their choice and it's not the man's body. It's Uncle Sam's body. And if Uncle Sam wants to tell that man to go to war, that man's got to go to war. If Uncle Sam wants to draft him up, he can draft him up. Everybody knows this. Every young man knows this. Every parent of a young man knows this. They sign that card when they turn 18 and they have to send it in under threat of penalty. Women don't have anything to do that. So spare me the bitching about my manning my two A's. That's so stupid. Broads, you think that you have no choice? Try being a man. Try being a man and not knowing what your future is going to be like. Heaven forbid if you get a draft happy marriage. you know, warmonger in the White House who, and believe me, after 9-11, Democrats actually tried to bring something up like this in committee. I wrote about it at the time. They absolutely loved them a draft. Democrats had never met a draft they didn't like. So imagine being a young man Wondering, okay, well, if we get a warmonger or far left draft lover in the White House, what does that mean for my future? Because all Uncle Sam has to do is be like, oh, calling you up for war. Calling you up for war. Calling you up. Calling you up. Women, they don't have to worry about that kind of stuff. But the third and fourth wave feminism is so self-infatuated. It's so indulgent. It's, it's, I mean, it's gotten to the point. It's just a bloated behemoth of, of bitchery for the lack of a better way to put it. They can't see outside of them, of their own selves to recognize this truth. Men have no control of their bodies. Uncle Sam does. So when I hear Ernst talk about registering women for the draft, you know, um, No, I don't think men should be required, but I don't think women should definitely don't think women should be call me old school. I don't care. I don't think women have any business being in combat. I'm fine with women as pilots and being chopper pilots. I do think that's different. I got a lot of I actually have a handful of female friends who flew who were pilots. And by the way, not a single damn one of them disagrees with what I just said. They're like, yeah, it's different. They are smart enough, they know what their strengths are, which is why they're flying, but they also know what their limitations are. They know that they can't be on a team right there on the ground going in, kicking in doors because if something were to happen by science and by anatomy and physiology, just by basic reality, they immediately are, and this is not a derogatory term, the weakest point in that unit. And when you get stuff like that, you get guys that are going to want to protect that. And then you're asking them to protect her and then also do their job. You can't do it. I'm being realistic about it. People who want if they want to live in the kitten and sunshine world of let's give everyone a chance, then you can go ahead and run your country into a hellhole. That's fine. But you're not going to go start your own country. You're not going to do it. The United States of America. I don't have time for this stuff. This is stupid. I'm not going to sit here and engage in this back and forth. Women should be in. No, they shouldn't. End of damn story. The end. If you have a problem with it, go somewhere where they don't give a rat's ass about women and maybe you can go serve in one of their militaries if you're so hard up over that. And as a mother of sons, I don't want one of my sons to ever have to worry about having to not only watch out for his own six, but then having to protect a teammate who is physically weaker than in the battlefield. I mean, we've talked about this over the 10 years that everybody's been debating it. The 10 plus years everyone's been debating it. This is not the time for women to prove their bona fides. This is not the time for women to be like, I am as tough as a man. You aren't. Not physically. There's certain things that you can do that men can't. There's certain things that men can do that women can't. I need feminism to stop brain rotting women into thinking that that is somehow a deficit. That speaks more about how feminists hate women than how men hate women. Feminists hate the female sex. They hate women. They don't appreciate what women do. They don't appreciate women's physicality. They don't appreciate our anatomy. They don't appreciate our emotional health. number. They don't appreciate our nurturing instinct. They think that in order to be considered valuable, you have to meet every standard that a man meets. Now you tell me that you are all about empowering women while stripping them of everything that makes them women and demanding that they perform exactly the same way that a man does. Piss off. Tired of it. The most ignorant women hating people I've ever seen have been feminists. I told my sons, don't you ever bring me a damn feminist home. Don't you dare walk one of them women through my door. I'll get out dad's power hose. I'll wash her off my stoop. I'm not even dealing with it. Not even. Not even. Unless she's converting. And then, all right then, you know. But I get so aggravated about this. And they try to make like, look women, here's a place where you're not equal. What? What are you talking about? There's a lot of inequality out there. Men can't have babies. A man will never know what it is like to physically actually push life out into this world. We'll never know what that's like. I feel bad for men for that. Oh, sure. It's grueling. Oh, don't tell me I didn't have any. All I had, I did not have an epidural with my first child because as my grandmother said, I was stupid. I was bringing a child into the world that had a head size in the 99th percentile. Our family has big babies, all right? We are tall people, a hearty people. And my grandmother looked at me, her eyes gaped open. She's like, are you stupid? That's what she said to me. I was like, geez, gran, thanks. Don't kill me in my sleep, thanks. But they did give me Demerol. I don't think they give you Demerol anymore. By the way, I think, Cain, that's like the closest to being high that I've ever been was Demerol. I remember sitting in the hospital bed and I'm like, I need to not speak because I have no idea what's going to come out of my mouth. But I didn't care about the pain anymore. Second one I did. And I had huge kids. And men will never understand that journey, right? And it's a tough journey. And it is an edifying journey. And it is a journey that both humbles you and also makes you aware of your own power as a woman. And men don't get it. And even if you weren't able to have a child or you chose to adopt, women have a nurturing instinct that men do not have. That's not an insult to men. That's just one of the strengths that women have. And see, you can say stuff like this and men don't get offended. They're like, yeah, that's true. Women need to stop being offended over this stuff. Guys do that. Men and women each contribute incredibly important things during the growth, the birth, the growth, the raising of a child, obviously. And I'm so tired of that being eliminated for this false claim of equality. You're actually disqualifying very qualified people, very qualified things by doing this. So I'm seeing this back to this Joni Ernst thing about the draft. I'm disappointed whenever I see female Republican lawmakers get into this and they bite into all this. You know, bring value. Like she had said in one point, bring value to the unit. The talent needs to, you know, all this. And this is all about the head. The people are dropping oppo about her. I've known this about Ernst for a while. I mean, she's a nice lady. We don't agree on everything. But I'm tired of people talking like this. I'm tired of the politics speak. All you got to do is be like, no, I'm not getting in this argument. Either you want to kick ass and be a part of something greater than yourself, or you don't. We don't have time for everybody to fly their individual flags. Nobody cares. Nobody cares what you ate for breakfast. Nobody cares what you're doing behind closed doors. Nobody cares. But when you're in this unit, you're part of the unit or you're out. We don't care about any of this other stuff. Who you sleep with does not make you kick ass better. It does not make you more lethal. But it can deter from it if it's a distraction. No distractions. And then there are people who get butt hurt because you're like, are you calling my sexual preference a distraction? Yes, I am. Absolutely. No one cares. Only you love yourself that much. We don't. Stop it. So I get aggravated when I see lawmakers get into this type of stuff. But they're all mad over the Hegseth thing because Hegseth said what he said about women in combat. Look, I don't care what happens with DOD. I mean, I do, obviously, but this is a choice that Trump is going to have to make. I think he probably is going to want to say something sooner rather than later. Because here's what's going to happen. The longer this goes on, the more of these lawmakers that aren't stepping up and backing him, you're going to have Oppo come out. We're going to go into a midterm election cycle. And all this Oppo is going to... And then it's just all going to be a feast for the left that's desperately trying to find some way to reestablish themselves after they were beaten half to death, politically speaking. So... You know, there's no reason to drag this out. There's no reason why it should take this long to make it. I'm very much like sit down. Who's the best person for the job? Who's going to go in there? They're going to have to gut DOD. You're going to have to throw your weight around and you're going to have to be a patent level jack wagon, a patent level jack wagon. I love George Patton. God rest his soul. One of the greatest men who's ever lived. I'm a huge World War II history buff. And I am obsessed, not just with the Pacific theater, but also everything Patton did in World War II and how he got in trouble because he slapped a subordinate. I said he was being a coward, et cetera. And then they gave the command to Omar Bradley. And then they told Patton that he was going to be able to get You know, come into the third back. If he helped do some stuff for the military, go around, do some rah rah, you know, good field time stuff and then take over the ghost army so that they can trick out the Nazis, which they did. They were able to get across the Rhine and boom, there it goes. So, you know, he's got a great story. You need that kind of bravado. You need leaders. You need people who are unafraid of others opinions of themselves. And they are confident in what they know that needs to be done. And they can go in and get it done. Because DOD is going to be less about combat. And it's going to be more about combating the people who think they know combat. Does that make sense? I've had a lot of conversations in the past couple of weeks with people in the military about some of this stuff. And you're dealing with an entrenched bureaucracy that takes a certain type of person and a certain type of technique to get rid of it. It'll be interesting to see. But I think he's going to have to make that call here sooner rather than later.
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Welcome back to the program. I was having a conversation with one of our really good listeners, our longtime listeners, and they were saying that... And I thought they made a good point. He was saying that... He doesn't partake. We're talking about the THC thing with Texas. He doesn't partake, and he hates people who make getting high their personality, which I find insufferable also. But he was talking about Oregon legalizing all drugs. They saw it was a bad idea, culture of indulgence. They walked it back. I think that the THC thing, regulation of that, is way different than legalizing all drugs. But the way that I view it is that I think you're always going to have an issue in society with vices. And I think that the severity of that is determined by cultural rot. Because when people themselves could not refrain from indulging to the point of excess, they farmed out the responsibility of restraint to the government. That's kind of how I view it. And we're always going to have an issue with that. But like I said, the severity... is determined by how bad off your society is. Remember, the founders always talked about virtue. They said that that was the most important thing in a free society was virtue and education. Virtue and education, virtue and education. You cannot have a virtuous person come to lead people who are not virtuous themselves. You're not going to get virtuous policies from a non-virtuous people. But it requires a lot of personal responsibility. And the issue really isn't so much with people eschewing freedom. They're eschewing personal responsibility without realizing that that goes hand in hand with freedom. Today's stupidity came. What do we got?
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All right. It is a Texas rep, Jasmine Crockett. I don't even know what to say about this to set it up.
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Oh, boy. Oh, gosh.
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Just hit everybody with this.
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Listen.
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We know that when it comes to minority populations, they tend to be undercounted. So get this. We added 4 million people. They were people of color. Okay. Texas got two new seats. So they took those black and brown and Asian bodies.
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What?
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And guess what? Do you think that we got a new black, brown, or Asian seat?
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Yeah, we did.
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Somehow, the way that they do their Republican math in the state of Texas, that amounted to two new white seats. Oh, come on.
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Oh, I didn't realize that it's all about. Oh, gosh. She is not the sharpest tool in the drawer. Folks, I'll be back with you tomorrow. God bless.
In this episode, we explore the growing controversy over potential preemptive pardons by President Biden, diving deep into what such a move could mean for the political landscape. With high-profile names like Adam Schiff and Dr. Fauci in the mix, we discuss the implications of issuing pardons before charges are brought, examining past precedents and how they may inform current political strategies. We also tackle the concept of de-weaponizing federal agencies, evaluating past actions by the FBI and DOJ and contemplating a future where these institutions operate unbiasedly.
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Report today on Sekulow that Biden could pardon Adam Schiff, Dr. Fauci and Liz Cheney.
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And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. All right, folks, welcome to Sekulow. We're taking your calls at 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. You heard that right. Now, this is something, it's got to get the left, right, going, I don't know, I mean, to the point of their hardest line conspiracy theories, because you've got the Biden White House, and this is out in Politico, so this is not out in Fox News, this is not out in Newsmax, or just coming from us or some, or X, but in Politico, that... The Biden White House is discussing preemptive pardons. Now remember we talked about issues in the past about could a president pardon themselves for kind of preemptively like for everything they did as president even if there had been no charges brought against them and there had been that kind of discussion President Trump didn't end up doing that and by the way he had lots of charges brought against him now the federal charges are dropping the state charges are falling apart as well we'll talk about that today but this idea that the left believes because we want to de-weaponize de-weaponize the Department of Justice and the FBI and law enforcement so that they don't have the perception or the belief or the actual facts. I mean, we've had the people testify. We've had the whistleblowers. We represent them. We know that the people that were put inside the radical traditionalist Catholic churches, they put inside FBI informants inside those churches. So to de-weaponize, the left feels like, Well, they may actually file lawsuits, not against bad actors at the FBI that they're worried about, but politicians and former politicians. So people like Adam Schiff or government employees like Dr. Fauci. for not disclosing certain ties and kind of having these battles again and some of this I think by the way is trying to get President Trump to refight battles that you don't need to fight again it's almost like will you go here will you look at this and say hey could we file a lawsuit against Liz Cheney can we do that I mean the fact is they're making this up there is no
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basis for what you say we want to de-weaponize that to de-weaponize the fbi you're going to weaponize the fbi against democrats yeah i think this is a interesting time because i looked at x last night and this started a report started coming in about this the idea of pardoning all of these people and honestly just due to the list of the names i kind of disregarded it i was like this feels like just a viral x post that some you know account posted and it got some traction and all of a sudden some celebrities started posting it and People started sharing it. And then now we wake up to legit reports that this is on the table. It is a wild time to think that this would be the situation where you could go in preemptively, pardon people based on potential previous crimes. It's a mess. But of course, we saw the reaction to Hunter Biden, and I'm sure they think this could be a time where you could just do the same.
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Well, and I think it also sets a dangerous precedent if they are to do this, that the pardon power, while the president has vast pardon power, most people don't think of it as something where you're issuing basically immunity for things that may or may not have happened. But that was also what you saw in the Hunter Biden pardon. was it went back to 2014 and it was very vague. It wasn't very targeted at the gun charge and the tax trial he's facing. It was wide open. And it's almost like a preview of what they're talking about. This is out of Politico that Biden aides are deeply concerned about a range of current and former officials who could find themselves facing inquiries. So they're talking about these blanket potential pardons for members of the White House and the political sphere that are on the left. And we talked about those top three names, but they're also looking at if they were to do this, it could be vast with aides, people underneath that you don't even know their names.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So... pardon power that they heavily criticize they're now you know criticizing their own president president biden for the use of hunter biden do it doing using one for hunter biden that was very broad as well i think went back to 2014. now they're stuck with do we need preemptive pardons and of course it's always president trump who's criticized about this stay with us 1-800-684-31 to join us on the show share it with your friends and family we'll be right back All right, welcome back to Secular. A lot of people are asking questions. We'll start getting to those, too. We'll start taking them on air. I see some of you writing in those questions. Some of those are coming in through the phones. We'll take them in a minute. But the idea is these reports all over the place now... that the White House and the Biden administration is thinking about these preemptive pardons and they named some high-profile people two who were on the January 6th committee Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney and then they also named Fauci so for those would be for various different things you know of course President Trump a lot of this remember the information they were sharing was they were saying that they were doing it in a partisan way and they weren't actually letting people see all the evidence it was one-sided with the January 6th committee I don't know exactly what charge you would bring against them but this is not really about that this is the left trying to scare the American people about President Trump's FBI being reformed so that it's no longer weaponized and I think what they're scared about and how long have we talked about for just the last four years that this FBI has become weaponized against pro-lifers, conservatives, Donald Trump and anyone associated with him if they could get anything charged they even went too far most people believe on what happened with most actors on January 6th with these people getting 20 and 30 year jail terms so to de-weaponize the FBI you would think would be the opposite of bringing criminal charges against politicians and former politicians and instead saying that was wrong then it's also wrong now and in the future we're going to actually focus on actual criminal behavior now if inside the department of justice You could show that there were attorneys like what was happening under the Mueller investigation. You saw those investigations go and that anything was improper there, but we had a special counsel look into that and they got one prosecution done over the guy who edited the email and it was not, I mean, those didn't go very far. So I think it's kind of like, let's look towards the future. We either have to get rid of these institutions or reform them? Because we have to have something like a Department of Justice and an FBI in a country our size. We have to have a federal law enforcement agency. Is it that the FBI is beyond repair? People have talked about that with the IRS. There's a new IRS commissioner that's been announced. This is a business guy. He also wants to come in and streamline the IRS and think... Hey, is the IRS really doing its job, which is to really be helping the American people follow the rules, file their taxes on time in a way that's simple enough that you don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to file your taxes, to pay your taxes so that you don't then get a bigger tax bills because most Americans are just trying to follow the rules. They are not, they are not criminals. They just want to follow the law. and the law has become so complicated that you can't really do that on your own and even if you use an outside specialist you have to be concerned that they're not even doing it right on their own. So I think there's a lot of issues inside this idea when we talk about a weaponized government than when you talk about de-weaponizing it. And you're not going to be able to de-weaponize it by going after Democrats. Republicans going after Democrats, that's just going to be continuing to weaponize law enforcement and there'll be just that much more lack of faith in the institutions. I think what you really have here is that the left and Democrats, and let's just say Washington, D.C. as a whole, let's go bigger than just Democrats, they thought they were going to win this election. They thought the move to take Joe Biden out was all they had to do, that Kamala Harris would be historic, that even though she wasn't that great of a candidate, the fact that she would be the first woman, first black woman, so you add these things to it, she was going to just waltz her way to the White House. And not only did it didn't happen, this race, unlike what many of us were...
SPEAKER 06 :
hoping didn't happen but preparing for was done very early and very quickly even though California still took until yesterday to finally certify some of them I'm looking at some of the comments a lot of people are commenting very similar questions and even our calls are leaning that way so I'm going to take a call because we have some answers a lot of you have questions specifically about pardon power what does that look like and how does it even get put in place but we know because Will pulled this up that the groundwork has been laid in the Hunter Biden Let's go ahead and take a call. Let's go to Michael who's calling in Florida on line three. Michael, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Michael.
SPEAKER 05 :
Gentlemen, I thought that the spirit or reason for a pardon was to pardon someone who was either already found guilty or convicted of a crime. If we're pardoning someone beforehand, are they not basically admitting to guilt?
SPEAKER 07 :
Michael, I think the idea would be... That was brought up in the article. The one reason they may do this kind of quietly and go to people and say, would you like this? Because they do believe that there are a lot of individuals that would not accept the pardon because of what you just said, Michael. A pardon does imply... that you've committed criminal conduct usually it's that you've been convicted or that you're about to be convicted of criminal conduct and maybe you've been sentenced and so you'll be released maybe you haven't been sentenced yet but the idea here is that there will be a lot of these individuals that we're hearing about and by the way these are the ones who again are the bigger names that could afford to defend themselves And I feel like that would look like a political target. They would say no to this anyways. But the idea that they're testing the theory. Remember, they said that a presidential self-pardon would be going too far. Now they're going further than that by saying, can you pre-pardon?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and what many on the left or in kind of the Washington think tank world, like the Brookings Institution, note that... Pardons don't need to follow convictions but can be issued before or during criminal prosecution. The rationale for so-called preemptive pardons is there's no point in requiring someone to live in fear of conviction or going through trial. And they even point to Gerald Ford pardoning President Nixon before there was a criminal case or thing actually established.
SPEAKER 07 :
That may establish it, right? there.
SPEAKER 09 :
But then you also look at the way that Joe Biden wrote the pardon for his son. A full and unconditional pardon for those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1st 2014 through December 1st 2024 including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted by the special counsel. So it was it mentions those but makes it clear It's way broader. It's anything that he did or may have done. And I think that's the type of language you would see if they were to go forward with these type of preemptive pardons to leave it vague and say anything they may or may not have done that's an offense against the United States.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, this is, again, we can go to Bill in Wyoming, too, because he's got a question on this as well. I think it's important to answer these questions for people. They are putting this front and center in the news. Of course, Hunter Biden did that to an extent, and now they're taking it steps further. Hey, Bill, welcome to Seculo. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, thanks. I think he partially answered my first part of the question about preemptive pardoning. But I understand from you guys that read your email where there is a possible attempt to prevent President Trump from actually being able to have a pardon. That sounds kind of strange to me about trying to do something like that. How can they do that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think, again, the question here is when can you pardon? So can you pardon before a crime has been committed or crime has even been charged? And the answer is yes, I think you can. I mean, I don't think you have to have a criminal charge in the works to actually do that. And I think in Gerald Ford with President Nixon, it appeared that they would obviously there could be criminal charges coming after he was out of office and after he was impeached. But an impeachment doesn't protect you from other charges once you're removed from office. So because he left office, he granted him a pardon and no one questioned whether or not you should even be investigating anymore. That was done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so I think you're right. The precedent is set and the verbiage that was in the Hunter pardon really just says pretty much anything that happened over the 10 years that could have happened, might have happened, did happen, it's wiped away. as long as the federal has been wiped away. So I think that you could probably, Blake, do the same thing. Now, you're right. It is a political decision for some of these. But if they spin it as we're protecting you from a Trump White House that is going to unjustly go after you, then that makes the political spin a little easier for your own base.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think that you'd have to really think through taking something like this if you have much of a political future in mind, because as the callers are correct, a pardon is not a grant of reprieve. It does not mean you are not guilty. It's the opposite of that. It has nothing to do with your guilt or innocence. It doesn't wipe away that you were convicted. of a crime it just means you won't be suffering the sentencing yeah or the consequences the consequences of what could come from a prosecution if it's done before or the sentence that you were given that you will no longer have to serve so it's a little bit you know obviously this is only on federal issues and I think this is to some extent is to just scare members of Congress who are going to be doing these confirmation hearings into thinking that to de-weaponize an institution means that you have to weaponize it. And that is not the case. We just have to have a way in Washington to get bad actors out. It's something we've been working on at the ACLJ for a long time. This is an important time of year for us at the ACLJ. Your support this month sets our budget for really the entire year. It's how we set our budget so we know what we raised in December and with, again, doubling the impact of your donation, we can then budget out for the rest of next year. So this is a great time and really an important time for you to have your gift doubled through our Faith and Freedom year-end drive at ACLJ.org. If you're able to, become an ACLJ champion with a monthly recurring gift at ACLJ.org slash champions, and you'll take part in that. So I think the part in question, listen, people still have a lot of... And listen, I understand why. It's something unique in our Constitution. It's a unique power of the President of the United States specifically. I mean, it's right up. It's in Clause 2 of the... Section 2 of the Constitution and Article 2 of the Constitution, which lays out the powers of the President, and it only gives that power... of pardon power to the president of the United States and again it is limited to federal crimes and federal issues. We're about to talk about something too with the remaining cases against President Trump that are in state court and how that operates somewhat differently from at least the federal procedures that have said that you know a sitting president cannot be prosecuted so all those cases with Jack Smith are coming to a close and he's filing everything to basically bring those to a close, and how that interplays with what's going on in places like Georgia. So we'll get to that in a minute, but I do think we can play out a little bit more of this pardon issue and answer some more questions for you. Let's go to Jeff in North Carolina on Line 1. Hey, Jeff, welcome to Sekulow. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Just curious, does President Biden have the authority to pardon people
SPEAKER 07 :
a blanket pardon for all illegal immigrants is that possible to blanket pardon for all illegal immigrants now this this is interesting they're not citizens of the united states i don't know if that would come into play let me bring in harry hutchinson harry do you think that you could actually blanket pardon people for entering the country illegally though that wouldn't necessarily give them citizenship either i mean that would really just mean they couldn't be prosecuted for it i don't think it would stop them from being removed
SPEAKER 02 :
I think you're precisely right. You don't get citizenship from that. So you don't have a presumptive legal right to remain in the United States, even if you have entered the country legally. So, for instance, someone from France who, let's say, had a visa or there's an agreement between the French government and the American government. They could enter the United States legally, but nonetheless, the US government would have the right to remove them. So I don't think a presidential pardon with respect to illegal immigrants will necessarily prevent President Trump from removing them because they are no longer in this country legally.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah and I think also there what you've got is this all right so you've got a situation there where you might not be able to then be prosecuted for the charge But that doesn't mean that you can stay. So I think that's, again, I see why people are starting to look at it broadly. That's because of what President Biden did. Not because of President Trump. Well, it's because of President Biden issuing a pardon that goes for Hunter Biden that wasn't specific to the charges he was dealing with, even while President Biden was in office, but goes back to 2014. And then it says for anything that he might have, might have been, may have been, doesn't know if he was or not. I mean, it's so broad. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And the way that I read the Constitution, yeah, he could pardon someone who's not a U.S. citizen. It's not that it has to be a U.S. citizen to get a pardon. However, as you mentioned, it doesn't mean that that grants you a citizenship or even future immunity as well from things. And that's I know I've seen a lot of people asking that question, too. And I'll pose it to you, too, of that question. The pardon power is past looking. It's not a forward looking blanket immunity for anything you may do in the future. And the president's pardon power ends on January 20th of 2025 when he leaves office. But I think the concern that a lot of people have, and even on the left with how broad the Hunter Biden pardon was, and now this discussion we're seeing out of Politico that raises this question of just going through the government and giving these people pardons, does it set bad precedent for anyone? Because if they can then do that, And Biden can, which it is a very broad power. But if you're not using it necessarily responsibly and you're using it as a political weapon against your to be weaponized. Exactly. I think that's the more dangerous precedent here is making the world look at America as acting very banana republic ish.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that's what the pardon power to be the most important power of a president. I mean you want to kind of be a power that is used rarely and uniquely and it doesn't usually absolve the person who gets the pardon. Usually the person who gets the pardon was already seen in the eyes of the public as someone who was guilty. It is, again, it's, I think, tough to have that power and not use it for your son, which is why I think the White House was so out of step with Joe Biden. And it felt like a White House that was talking not on his behalf for the last two years, at least, of this White House, including removing him from the ticket, that really he wasn't being consulted. And by the way, you know what's interesting on this issue? It's all in the news, right? Guess who they haven't asked about doing this yet? Joe Biden. So they say in this article, though the White House counsel for Joe Biden has been involved in these discussions, so very high up in the legal chain at the White House, that Joe Biden himself has not been consulted about whether or not he would want to even consider offering these potential pardons to individuals in a pre- pre-criminal way. And again, I think there's a big concern that because they'd be preemptive, a lot of these politicians would say no. Now, is that the same if you're talking about some of these mid-level bad actors at the FBI or DOJ? Maybe not. And I think that's where it gets more troubling because those people Have to be cleaned up to de-weaponize government. And there may be legitimate crimes that occurred. And though you may prosecute some, it may actually just be a way to easier. And Harry, this is because we know how hard it is to remove federal bureaucrats once they're entrenched. And if you're a mid-level DC IRS or DC FBI or DOJ, you're pretty entrenched at that point. That at least if you want to de-weaponize the government, if you don't want to bring the criminal charges against them, maybe at least the idea that they have committed these crimes or could have committed these crimes is a way to remove them.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think that's absolutely correct. I think it's also important to keep in mind that Joe Biden is a particularly selfish guy, and a large number of commentators have suggested his pardon of his son was very selfish. It benefited Joe Biden, particularly with respect to Burisma and Ukraine. So the question becomes, will any of these proposed pardons actually benefit Joe Biden? And I think at the end of the day, the answer is no. So I'm not necessarily sure he will care whether Liz Cheney or James Comey or Fauci is indeed pardoned because the question becomes, does it benefit the Biden family?
SPEAKER 09 :
And Jordan, before we go to break here, it also shows you something about the people in the White House that were so concerned about President Trump being a threat to democracy, how little respect they have for our democracy, of being a strong democracy, and trusting our judicial system. If they believe...
SPEAKER 07 :
think they do yeah right they understand that the DOJ has been weaponized by them and that means it could be easily weaponized by Donald Trump and his team and that doesn't take many steps that's like one step all you do is say investigate these people we believe that they committed crimes um that uh that uh that would not be these acts would not be covered by their their position in congress that they did commit crimes that or they leaked information that was classified the list goes on um or for some of these prosecutors at the DOJ that what they did was improper and the way they used the information was improper. But again, if we want to de-weaponize, it does not mean that we're not going to have to get rid of or prosecute some actors inside the FBI and DOJ. But going after just big names to go after big names is not the way to de-weaponize a system for the long-term future. Support the work of the ACLJ. That's at ACLJ.org. Be part of our Faith and Freedom year-end drive. We need your donations today.
SPEAKER 08 :
keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, so lots of talk about pardons. We will see if we get to that level. I think, you know, when we talk about Hunter Biden's pardon, we go to the power of the president. We walk through that very specifically on the show. We're looking to see about these other preemptive pardons. I do think if you look at the pardon of Nixon by Gerald Ford, you see that there is precedent already for preemptive pardons. And no one at that time tried to challenge Nixon. that that I know of there may have been people that tried to bring lawsuits against President Nixon but once he left office I don't remember ever reading about anything moving anywhere past being dismissed immediately by a court so it does look like it would be possible to do this does that mean that it wouldn't be looked at by a court now and you know now that we're in to 2024 2025 no it doesn't so I think that again you have to take all this with a grain of salt and remember this is another kind of story showing you what's happening at this White House the moment Joe Biden leaves the country or Joe Biden's outside the White House. His team has got stories out that he has not even been consulted on. And Jordan, another thing... Because I think they're mad about what he did with Hunter Biden. I think his own team, the left and the Democrats, realize he created a precedent for Donald Trump in the future so that this, what happened to Donald Trump and his staff... Never happens again.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I think another point to bring out on this is that even the left that's saying he's abusing this power, really, if it were to somehow be challenged, I don't know, and I'm not the attorney, but it seems like it would be very hard to find someone who is standing to bring that challenge. And even if they did, and it made it all the way to the Supreme Court, this Supreme Court has been very generous with the interpretation of presidential power. We got that from the immunity ruling. And so you see that. And even if it did get all the way to the Supreme Court, challenging his wide sweeping pardons, I don't know that even if... There are some commentators that can make the point that maybe it went too far, that the Supreme Court would be inclined to put a limit on that presidential pardon power because it's pretty plain in the Constitution. The only thing he can't grant a pardon for is for impeachment because that's the political process. So people may be crying foul on the left. And I think that people like Karine Jean-Pierre may be pretty frustrated that she had to go out there and repeat that line. No, it will never happen so many times. But I don't know that there's any recourse for anyone to go back after the president and try to clean up the widespread usage if he chooses to go down that road.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I think that, listen, I think after that, it was all bets are off. And this White House, again, they're not even consulting the president. He's the one that actually has the power. I guess they're kind of come up with, what do we give him a briefing on this? And should we actually recommend this to the president of the United States before he leaves office? on january 20th usually these come on uh you know very late the day on january 19th uh where these kind of more controversial pardons get issued but they would have to approach people i don't think they want a bunch of people offered pardons by the president who then say no no i don't need a pardon because i didn't do anything wrong or illegal i'm not worried about like that i just uh called for investigations into something. And the people who made the decisions about that are the ones who have to follow the law the right way. 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be on the broadcast with us. That's 1-800-684-3110. And Logan, this is really a key time for us at the ACLJ. We're fighting, and we're going to talk about it in just the next segment, to defend school choice in a major case. At the Supreme Court of Ohio, as you saw more states go red, we are seeing school choice programs be broadened out. But we're seeing the teachers unions try to fight back with creative ways like, well, we can't pick your kid up because that's going to cost us too much money. And if we send buses, so there's no way to actually get the student who qualifies for school choice to school without putting a burden on the parents.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. CC High House Senior Counsel is going to be joining us in the next segment. You're going to want to stay tuned for that. It's always good for you to have an understanding of all the work the ACLJ is doing on the individual level, on the big level. But we can't do any of it without your help and support. So I encourage you right now, during this Faith and Freedom year-end drive where all gifts are doubled, as we fight to defend the rights of students... and so many in the pro-life community. We got so much going on. I can't wait to show all of it to you and so much of it we can't even talk about yet. We need your support. Go to ACLJ.org right now and become an ACLJ champion if you can. That's someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis. Be right back.
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back to SecU. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. So if you're hanging on, we will get you. We've got a couple of ACLJ cases to update you on. CeCe Hallis joining us. It's CeCe, one out of Columbus, Ohio. This, again, involving school choice and students who are not being the bus situation, which is supposed to be covered by the school choice law. law that you could get that transportation if you need it to the school of your choice and in Columbus Ohio the school district saying we can't do that the they tried to come in and have this case dismissed and it was they were not successful we move on now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so like you said, the Ohio law, there is a law in Ohio that says school districts have to provide transportation for any student within their district. And that means even private schools or religious schools. And that's our client has students that go to a private Christian school. And the law goes on to say that not only does the school district need to provide that transportation to all these students, that if... They decide that they cannot because they're outside the district or they don't comply with the certain regulations. They are mandated. The law goes on to mandate that in that interim decision time when the parents are appealing the school. district has to provide interim transportation. So that's where we are. Our clients have been denied transportation. They've appealed. There's a long administrative process. The law requires that transportation, interim transportation be provided. So we filed a writ of mandamus in the Ohio Supreme Court. And that's just a fancy way to say that the court needs to compel the government to do a specific thing. And here it is compelling the school board to provide the interim transportation. And like you said, the school board filed a motion to dismiss. The court just denied that. So the case goes forward. On December 16th, we have to submit evidence. And by December 26th, we have to provide a brief on the merits. So like we say all the time, just because it's a holiday event, We've got Christmas coming. We've got New Year's coming. The ACLJ will still be working defending these parents' rights to have transportation under this Ohio law.
SPEAKER 07 :
To me, this is like the last and we have another one of these cases actually come in recently. We're reviewing it right now, but it's another transportation case. and it's like another way these teachers unions and school districts are seeing that when school choice laws are passed especially what we're seeing now is they're being broadened so more people are eligible than were before usually it started out as something you had to have like maybe meet a certain economic condition or special need that you the school could provide and now it's getting broader and broader to the idea that school choice should be available to every taxpayer because everyone's paying for these public schools
SPEAKER 10 :
so their next the next way they try to make this difficult for parents is say we can't pick your kid up yeah and and it actually and they actually tried to get this dismissed i mean they wanted to walk in say it just shows you how little they care about the kids right and how much they care about their own power and it actually affected more than our client there were over a thousand students that actually were denied transportation and so the ohio attorney general has also filed a similar lawsuit and we're working in tandem with that because This school board, the Columbus School Board, is not following the law.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Jordan, this is another interesting and tragic fact of this, is that in the school board's motion to dismiss, so when they asked the Supreme Court of Ohio to throw out the case, They said that the law imposes a penalty on school districts that fail to provide this. Now, this is, you know, the capital district of of the state of Ohio. So it's not a rural district that they can't necessarily get this together. But they argued not that we haven't violated the law. but that the law has a penalty in it and if we pay that we're covered so effectively they choose to waste taxpayer money paying a penalty that they know that they have to pay because they're not following the law instead of providing students with the mandated transportation that the law covers so once again you talk about the power of the teachers unions and and the rights of students not being taken seriously or as of the utmost importance they even argued to the court that hey yeah we know that we're supposed to be doing this but we'll just pay the fine instead of helping the kids and Fortunately, the Supreme Court of Ohio denied the motion to dismiss so it can go forward as a case. But just that alone, that the school board would argue to the Supreme Court, we're going to waste money paying a fine instead of helping children.
SPEAKER 07 :
These kids to school, even though... They were given more money to actually enact this program. So the public school system, because of the bus system, was given more money, CC, under the school choice law so they could get these kids to school. And instead they say, nah, we just rather take all the taxpayer money we get. We get plenty of that. We'll just pay the fine courts. So there's no issue here.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I think that's why you see the attorney general there in Ohio getting involved because they see that this school board, the Columbus Board of Education, is violating a law, doing it willfully, and they need to, you know, make it right.
SPEAKER 07 :
A second case, this one involving life out of New Mexico. We've talked about this hospital. It was purchased, as we see lots of hospitals now, in consolidation. And these hospital workers... who had conscience protections at the hospital they were working at when the new hospital ownership came in got rid of those conscience protections and are required at the moment to perform abortions we're waiting right now the hospital's response but we've also got another client we've added another for a fourth client in this case at the same hospital who has realized now their conscience protections have been done away with by this new owner where does that stand?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. So in this case, we we actually have two issues going on. There's the federal laws that protect conscience rights. And we see that even the Supreme Court just recently reiterated that absolutely federal law protects the right of health care workers to be able to say they don't want to participate. in an abortion or assisted suicide or anything of that nature due to their religious beliefs, that that's absolutely protected under federal law. But there's also a Title VII claim, which is the religious accommodation claim that under their religious beliefs, our clients. The four health care workers there at the New Mexico hospital, you know, for religious beliefs, do not want to perform abortions or participate in any part of an abortion. And they should be allowed a religious accommodation. So we have gone forth. We're in the stage of they've requested the accommodations from the hospital. We're waiting for that response. If the response comes back and they don't grant the accommodation, then we have a title seven claim that we can. pursuing the federal courts. And we can also file with the Health and Human Services the complaint for the federal conscious violations.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, so it's these kind of new battles when you see the overturning of Roe versus Wade and then some states taking actions. that we're fighting these new conscious battles whether it's the school choice battles after again the Supreme Court opening the door for much more broad school choice programs across the country and then you've got to fight the cases that come from that because CC what happens whether they're they uh to call it a healthcare industry when you're talking about abortion but they won't they try to make money It's an industry, especially these ones that are buying and consolidating hospitals that were a lot of times in the past related to either religious institutions or nonprofit institutions to some extent, but could no longer afford to operate that way. So they had to sell to keep open. We've seen that fight. We've seen the fight on school choice be not now about whether or not you can actually choose the school because they've lost that fight. It's, well, we don't have to take you there. and so figure out how to get there on your own, even though many of the people that right now can take part in most school choice programs, though they are broadening out, still have requirements that have to be met. It's not always yet open to everyone. I think there are states that are opening it, and it sounded like this year through elections, to 60,000 and 70,000 more students that will be eligible in states. So it's certainly not everyone yet, but we are getting that direction. The... The teachers unions, the school boards, and the left, who has been able to use the public school system to kind of begin the indoctrination of students, and we've talked about parental rights so much these last four and five years, realize that when the parents are given the choice and the opportunity... What they're doing first is taking their kids out of these schools.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
They're not able to, even though they're given extra funds to try and compete because these schools go to the point of saying, well, if you're not going to go to our school, we'll pay a fine. of your taxpayer dollars rather than pick your kid up to go to a private school.
SPEAKER 10 :
And this is where you see the ACLJ is so important because, like you're saying, there are federal laws in place that have protections for schools, for hospitals, for conscience rights. There are state laws that have protections. Again, in Ohio, we see state laws, but then you will see local pushback. And in these two cases, you see it from a specific board of education, the Columbus Board of Education, or the specific hospital in New Mexico. And so even though there are laws on the books that protect these rights, the ACLJ still needs to step in and actually defend our clients' rights under these laws. And we will do that. And like I said, it'll be right through Christmas and the new year. We'll be working straight through.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know what, folks? This is our most critical month of the year. We're facing immense challenges. We know there's going to be a lot of legal work, attacks on faith, freedom from the radical left are increasing. These new proposals every day that we're hearing about from the left. But your support allows us to take on each of these challenges. Right now we're fighting to defend school choice, as you heard, in a major case at the Supreme Court of Ohio. That has ramifications for the whole country. Representing several ultrasound techs, again, who are told they have to violate their faith, violate their conscience and participate in abortions or go look for a job somewhere else. They can't work in the healthcare industry, can't work in a hospital if you won't kill a child in the womb. We're fighting for them. We're defending Israel against those unlawful arrest warrants by the ICC. Heard about it today, this idea that this will tar Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel's history because they will be treated as war criminals even if they are never actually ever taken to court, just like Nazis. We have to fight back on those issues, and we are. So support the work of the ACLJ this month. Donate today. Have that gift doubled. ACLJ.org. Your financial support is critical. Welcome back. We are taking your calls. Let's go to Ronald in South Carolina on line one. Again, talking about these issues involving pardons. We've talked about self-pardons. We've talked about preemptive pardons now. We've seen the pardon of Hunter Biden. There's talk about will there be preemptive pardons of other well-known Democrats by Joe Biden. Of course, one thing to note in here, Joe Biden they haven't even talked to about this because they don't really talk to him about things until I guess he either makes decisions. It's like the pardon decision on Hunter. He decided he didn't want to talk to any of them about either. But I think that was why this was a White House that did not work. and so they would go out and make statements like this would never happen and they had to go out you know what I always say as someone who's worked for a president before and on the legal side don't go out and say things that will never if things are legal things that the president has the power to do I don't think you should ever go out and say they will never do if they have the power and constitutional authority to do it you probably shouldn't preemptively go out and say there's no way 100% that you could ever change their mind on it
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Yeah, and we have Ronald still, right? Ronald, you're there in South Carolina. Go ahead with your question or comment. I'm not sure if we do have a problem. Let's put him back on hold and see if we can get to him. Let's make sure he's good. There's a lot happening right now also with this year-end drive, and I really want to encourage you all to take a minute while we get those phone calls cleared up to support the work of the ACLJ. If you're watching right now, scan the QR code. If you can't support financially, we understand, and what I encourage you to do, an easy way to support the ACLJ, if you're watching on YouTube or Rumble, subscribe. If you're watching on X, you know, follow, do those kinds of things. Those are free ways that you can help support us. Over 446,000 people alone on YouTube have subscribed to our channel. And we know that about half the people that watch our broadcast each and every day don't subscribe. So I'm looking at you. right now. If you're watching this right now and you haven't hit subscribe, hit the subscribe button right now. We know we'd appreciate it. And if you already have, hit the thumbs up. All those things help make sure that your message gets into the hands of more and more people. It helps us get within the algorithm so new people who have never seen the ACLJ, who have never seen this broadcast, see it. We know thousands do each and every day.
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Yeah, and this is, again, important to do. And like Logan said, it's important to do because by you, it's important that you come and you've figured out how to come and watch even if you haven't subscribed. But if you subscribe, they look and they say, okay, this kind of person subscribed. We should send out this show to more people like this person. Absolutely. And that makes sense then that people like you would also want this information and these discussions. So when they see on the news in five minutes that there's this talk of preemptive pardons, well, let's go into a discussion with actual attorneys who have gone through these presidential power issues and can actually talk to you about this stuff in an honest way, not in a partisan way. Notice we didn't just come out and say, if he does this, you know, put him in jail, right? We actually went through and said, well, let's think through this. There might not be a ton of precedent, but there's one. Pretty big one. The pardoning of Nixon. Yeah, a pretty big one. And if you, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not true. And I think people sometimes think, well, he's a president and that was known that he was going to get prosecuted. Well, then you could say that for a senator.
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You could easily say that for a... You could say that, honestly, at this point, you could say that just about anybody.
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Anybody involved in the political fight feels like you could be a target of the weaponization of law enforcement, which is why the goal of the Trump administration, and it's a big goal to get there in four years, But the goal is that the American people on both sides of the aisle and no aisle at all have faith again in our legal system. That doesn't mean, again, that you love the fact that the IRS is going to audit you occasionally or that the FBI doesn't sometimes get things wrong. But that generally speaking, they are trying to do the right thing and not the wrong thing. And they're certainly not doing it because of politics. That's where we're trying to get to. And if we can't get there, we're going to have to change the systems entirely. And that's going to take more than four years, and that's going to take an even bigger type of election over multiple election cycles if we want to see those reforms done.
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And Jordan, I think we should play this bite as we wrap up the show today. This is from Jill Winebanks, who was a prosecutor during the Watergate scandal at the Department of Justice. She was one of the individuals looking into this on that team. And here's what she had to say about, one, she's coming off talking about the Hunter Biden pardon, but also looking forward to potential preemptive pardons. And I'm curious if... She would have said the same thing about President Gerald Ford after Nixon stepped down if she had the same feelings back then. But let's go ahead and play bite six.
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It is really appropriate for a grant of clemency. I hope that President Biden will also issue preemptive pardons to all of those people threatened by the injustice of what will become the Department of Justice in the Trump administration. That, of course, includes Jack Smith and all of his staff. many Department of Justice lawyers. It includes President Biden himself, although we don't know that anyone can legally pardon themselves. He will need a pardon because he is going to be harassed and charged for no crimes whatsoever. Donald Trump has promised that.
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I saw President Biden and President Trump in the Oval Office smiling. I don't think on the top of President Trump's list is, I'm going to go prosecute an 80-year-old former president who I didn't even get to run against because he did so bad in the debate that I didn't get a chance to beat him the second time, who's obviously no longer consulting with his staff and probably had no control over the DOJ either and all of these individuals. because you see that he did exactly the opposite move of what his staff was telling you for three years about Hunter Biden when that stuff starts happening you start thinking you know what this is not about Joe Biden anymore and why does Jack Smith need a pardon preemptive what did he do illegal I mean if he did things illegal in a prosecution of a former president I'd like to see the case move forward. Because we do have to de-weaponize the government. And that has to mean that prosecutors can't feel like they are God. And that the rules don't apply to them. That the rules of justice. And remember, we're still keeping this in the federal system. This isn't going to reform the New York DA's office. This isn't going to reform Georgia DA's office. But there are cases going on about that. We'll talk about that too. Probably tomorrow on the broadcast and get to it today. But... At the end of the day, what we have to stick with over these next four years is one, being very careful about prosecuting people just because you don't like their politics and you think that they were too heavy-handed in their dislike or distrust of their politics against Donald Trump. Look deep into the bureaucracy. That's truly where the bad actors are. The leakers, the ones who have potentially altered evidence. Whoever scattered those classified document pictures, I'd like to know who that was. And is this normal practice for them that they do against American citizens who don't have the power of the President of the United States? Because if it is, and they go into your house, and they always make you look like you're a criminal with the pieces of paper that you have, even though you didn't know those pieces of paper were even there, and it makes you like you keep it in a toilet, and all those things. Those people probably deserve to be investigated. That does not mean they should be prosecuted, but it might. Because if you don't do any of those actions, how are you going to de-weaponize? So you don't focus on the big names. If you do that, you're just continuing to weaponize the government. That means whoever's in charge will prosecute the high profile people who are in charge the next time. You look at the actors inside, the people... with their hands on the evidence, the people who decided, let's scatter the documents around and take a picture so that President Trump has to come out and say, that is not what this ever looked like, and make it look like it was this mess or disaster, when in fact, it was not. Support the work of the ACLJ. Logan, again, a critical time. It is how we budget for the entire 2025. It's where we start and where we are in December at the end of the month.
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On today's program: Pete Sessions, U.S. Representative for the 17th District of Texas, shares his takeaways from Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy's Capitol Hill meeting regarding the Department of Government Efficiency. Josh Hawley, U.S. Senator from
In this engaging episode of the Best Stocks Now Show, join professional money manager Bill Gundersen as he dives into the riveting world of stocks and cryptocurrencies in today's thriving market. As Bitcoin soars past $100,000, Bill discusses its impact on traditional markets like the Dow and NASDAQ, prompting the question: is the current Bitcoin surge a repeat of past market bubbles? With references to historical economic events such as the NASDAQ dot-com crash, Bill offers listeners a wealth of insights into the dynamics of profit-taking and valuation metrics. Bill also takes a deep dive into various market analyses, highlighting noteworthy trends such as the incredible momentum in software and semiconductor stocks. As he provides his perspective on market principles and intrinsic values, Bill reminds us that just as earlier bubbles brought growth and risk, today's market too will demand judicious investing tactics. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just entering the trading world, Bill’s expert discussion will equip you with the knowledge to navigate these fascinating times in financial markets.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Thursday. It is the Thursday edition of the Bitcoin Bubble Show. It's called the Best Stocks Now Show. Who cares about stocks anymore? Just buy Bitcoin. That's the way it seems right now. We'll talk about that today and a whole lot of other things. We're seeing a little bit of profit-taking. This is Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. We're seeing some profit-taking. And we're seeing a little bump higher, and the Dow is up 24 points. These days, though, at 45,000, from a percentage point of view, that works out to just 0.05% on the upside. The S&P is up 0.03%, and the NASDAQ is down 0.04%, I think if we call it kind of a flat profit-taking day in the market after yesterday. That's probably the best way to sum it up. The Russell 2000 is down 0.28. But that doesn't stop Bitcoin. Bitcoin right now, it was over 100,000 for the first time. It was up 7,000. This morning, as Donald Trump names a Bitcoin-friendly SEC chairman, and Bitcoin is currently trading at $103,362. which is a new all-time high. Why work? Let's just buy Bitcoin. Dogecoin up 9.2%, too. We can't forget Dogecoin. And the 10-year Treasury, who's buying Treasuries anymore? You've got the 10 years at 4.21% right now. so welcome to today's best stocks now show with professional money manager bill gunderson president of gunderson capital management and uh i've uh been a professional money manager since the year 2000 or actually 1999 somewhere 1998 i forget it's been so long ago I've seen some massive bubbles in the market along the way. Up till now, the biggest bubble I ever saw was in the NASDAQ, the dot-com stocks of the year 2000. Everybody wanted in. And almost everybody got in and it didn't end well. We found out that valuations on stocks do matter. Price to sales ratios of 112, peg ratios of 10 are not sustainable. It's no different if you were to buy a donut shop. Would you pay a billion dollars for a donut shop in your town? Some of those companies didn't have as much earnings as a local donut shop or a local dry cleaners. It was a massive bubble. And when it popped, it caused massive, the collateral damage was massive, a 79% drop in the NASDAQ, okay? And, you know, most of the money was crowded into the NASDAQ at that time. And that's where people wanted to be. That's where the growth was. We had a new thing called the Internet. And if you added .com to your name and had a website and started selling or giving advice or whatever the case may be on the internet, your stock zoomed higher. And if your stock split, it would zoom even higher. Wow, look at this. I got twice as many shares right now. And it went on and on and on and it didn't end well. And I would say the question now, will this Bitcoin thing end well? Well, I'm going to weigh in on that in a little while here. I am a witness to a couple of massive bubbles in the market, and I'll give my opinion on this current bubble. But we'll go through some statistics here. First, we had a good day in the market yesterday. The Dow, the NASDAQ, the S&P all closed at an all-time high yesterday. And, of course, we are at very, very steep multiples in the market right now.
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How many times have you said that this year? A lot. I think we're up to 54. I think it's 54.
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Why don't I just record myself? Why do I keep saying it? We had 45,014 on the Dow, new all-time high. We had on the S&P 6,086 new all-time high and the NASDAQ 19,735 new all-time high. The software stocks were absolutely on fire yesterday. That fire was lit. Yeah, Salesforce and Okta. And then you had kind of a low-level semiconductor stock, Marvell Technology, also heated up the chip stocks yesterday. And by the end of the day, you had new highs across the board. you had massive breakouts in a lot of stocks yesterday individual stocks and i sent out a lot of lessons yesterday i said look i like this stock this stock still makes sense from a valuation point of view It passes muster there. It passes muster from the performance point of view. I said, look at this chart, okay? To me, it's extended. It's very extended. That's a dangerous spot to buy a stock when it is extended to the upside. So that would disqualify it for me, okay? uh and i'm trying uh my best during the day to send out as many really good examples of different concepts in the market that i deem to be very very important okay i know people that trade just on stock charts alone okay that's all they do they don't look at the fundamentals they don't care about valuation And on the other hand, I know people that trade just on valuations. They look for intrinsic value that they think someday will be realized, and they're willing to sit for a couple years, although that group is becoming a dying species.
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Yeah, that value trap. Well, yeah, I mean, holding on to IBM for 10 years to get that latest recent pop, while everything else is going up around you, just kind of, it's a bit defeating, right?
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Yes. I mean, that's all we need to see is some kind of hiccup, and you're going to see some of these lofty valuations, you know, start to crumble. But for now, the market has momentum, okay? It does not lack momentum. I sent out a chart this morning. I said, what does momentum look like? And I sent out a chart of the NASDAQ. This is what momentum looks like. uh... and uh... eventually momentum uh... comes back down to earth so you also have to be very very careful uh... at a time like this so anyways we finished above forty five thousand yesterday on the dow for the first time i think we'll probably get twenty thousand on the uh... nasdaq here eventually uh... and i've been saying that it's just almost uh... inevitable that you're going to get to a hundred thousand above hundred thousand on bitcoin Okay, now let's just come back to earth for a minute before we talk about Bitcoin. Initial jobless claims, Barry, increased a little more than expected this past week, 224,000. That's still very low, however. We still have a tight labor market. You've got to wonder how many teenagers, how many college kids, why flip burgers at McDonald's when you can sit on the couch and watch your Bitcoin go up, right?
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I guess you've got to get a little money up front to seed your Bitcoin rise. But it's been interesting. I mean, honestly, when you look at these, at least the two of the three reports we're going to get on the jobs front, have been a little light. So you had the ADP report, I think, came in a little less than expected yesterday. You've had, I think, jobless claims still low. $224,000 isn't scary. Consensus was $215,000. So it came in you know a little uh i guess a little barrett more bearish than expected and so um on that side you could probably you know call it uh good for the market because uh you know should keep uh potentially a lid on on rates and and of course when the fed meets next week they'll have these numbers and you know likely to cut you know at least another quarter point and uh you kind of take it from there but
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When Bitcoin's 103,000, does anybody care about a quarter point rate cut? I mean, it's like, okay. It's all going to be relevant, however, at some point in time. Today's rally is brought to you by, in Bitcoin, the pro-crypto SEC, the new head. of that SEC named by Donald Trump, who is a big Bitcoin backer. His name is Paul Atkins. And let's not forget the people that are showing up in Washington today to look at the budget of the U.S., Ram Swami and Elon Musk. They're also very pro-Bitcoin. Now, when we come back, We're going to just go over the history of Bitcoin, which began in 2008. Okay, and we're going to go through some of these milestones, and then I'm just going to give you my very strong opinion, very strong opinion. of how I think it's going to end up. Okay, so the timeline is very important. The more facts that we have, the better kind of analysis we can make. In the meantime, Cuba grid collapses, millions plunged into darkness, and the French government collapses. But Bitcoin's at 103,000. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. On October 31st, 2008, Satoshi Nakamoto introduced Bitcoin to the world with a white paper. On January 3rd, 2009, several months later, Bitcoin's first block was mined by Satoshi. Nine days later, the first Bitcoin transaction occurred between Satoshi and Hal Finney. The price of Bitcoin stood roughly at zero. Okay, 2009, zero. Here we are 2024, and we're at 103,000. Go ahead, do the compound annual growth on Bitcoin. You can look that formula up on Google and apply it. Maybe I'll do that after the show today, but it's going to come out. It soundly beat the S&P 500, let's say so. Okay.
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I saw an interesting chart. It was Bitcoin and NVIDIA, and NVIDIA was way at the bottom when you look at percentages.
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The first real-world Bitcoin transaction was on May 22, 2010, 14 years ago, when 10,000 Bitcoins were used to buy two pizzas. Well, what would 10,000 bitcoins buy you today? 10,000 bitcoins at 106 years. That's like 10 million, okay, would buy you three mansions. It was still valued at less than one cent.
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Yeah, $100 million.
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Yeah, $100 million. Okay. On February 9th, 2011, Bitcoin reached $1. Let's use that as a starting point, okay? $1 13 years ago to $103,000. On November 18th, 2012, it underwent its first halving, a process that reduces the number of new Bitcoins created per block by one half. Now we go to 2013, April Fool's Day. I don't know about that. That could just be bad karma there. Exceeded $100 for the first time. $100 11 years ago. Well, okay, then it started to pick up some steam because later that year, in November of 2013, Bitcoin hit $1,000, drawing attention from tech enthusiasts and investors. In February 24, 2014, Mt. Gox, the world's largest Bitcoin exchange at that time, was hacked, sending Bitcoin back down to $400. And you just wonder how safe your Bitcoin is today. I can't tell you that. Bitcoin had a second halving in 2016. Seven years ago, it hit 1,000 again. That would still be some astronomical compound annual growth if you started with 1,000 and grew it to 103,000 in seven years. Then in December 17, 2017, Bitcoin peaked at 20,000. And then you had, during the pandemic, a pandemic-induced market crash. Do you know it went from 20,000 down to 4,300? And it quickly recovered. Now, we haven't seen any big sell-offs in Bitcoin here recently. But it went from $20,000 down. Imagine if we're at almost $20,000 on the NASDAQ right now. Imagine in a couple of years it went down to $4,300. On May 11, 2020, now we're getting up to current time, it went through its third halving. Companies like MicroStrategy and Square, which is Jack, the owner of Twitter. It used to be Twitter. Not Jack Frost. That's my toes right now. Jack Dorsey began accumulating Bitcoin on their ballot. Now I'm seeing biotechs that don't have any products. You know what they're doing? They're buying Bitcoin. On January 3rd, Bitcoin crossed $30,000 for the first time. On March 13th of 2021, it surpassed $60,000 following Tesla's $1.5 billion investment. On January 10th, 2024, now we're looking at this year, the U.S. Securities SEC approved nearly a dozen spot Bitcoin exchange traded funds, which were cleared for trading a day later. On April 19th, it went through its fourth halving, and today, actually it happened yesterday as we slept, Bitcoin hit $100,000 after President-elect Trump picks Paul Atkins, a crypto backer for the SEC chair. Well, everybody has their opinion on what's going to become of Bitcoin eventually. Just as a guy who has studied bubbles, I mean, you go back to the Holland Tulip Bowl bubble, you go to the South Seas shipping out of the UK, you go to the NASDAQ bubble, there's been many, many bubbles over the years. from my now first i'm going to tell you i do have a little position in it in an etf okay uh that's just as a little part of my portfolio but i do believe that at some point in time I think this massive bubble is going to collapse. And, you know, the reason I say that, I'm just going to give you, you know, I really believe that man is meant to earn his money by the sweat of his brow. I mean, that was the first commandment to Adam coming out of the Garden of Eden. In the sweat of thy face thou shalt eat bread till thou return unto the ground. For out of it wast thou taken, dust thou art, and to dust thou shalt return. It's a commandment from God to work. So to me, this is not a true principle. It's not built on a solid foundation. And, you know, like, I think this is a bigger bubble than what we saw. At least the NASDAQ, there was something underneath it, Barry. Those companies had buildings and they had desks and chairs and computers. Yes, okay. I see nothing underneath it whatsoever, maybe sand. So in my humble opinion, and I almost hate to see Trump getting sucked into it because I just don't think it's going to end well. Now it could go to a million before that happens. But it's just not built on true principles as far as I'm concerned. And I don't see anything underneath it that supports it.
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In a sense, it's a technology, right? And they're competing. I mean, there's a lot of different competing protocols. Because the deal is what's the ultimate use of it, right? And it's to make exchange around the world, right? Global payments, make things... be able to move money easier without intermediaries and big banks in between sucking up a lot of fees. But in reality, right, it's truly a computer technology, right? It's a software. I mean, you use Ethereum. It eats up tons of electricity to produce. So it's a software program to a certain extent, right? You can break it down to that or a network of computers. Right.
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That's my opinion on Bitcoin. It's not going to end well. I can't tell you when. It could go to a million. I don't know. I'm surprised it's gone this far. But now it seems to have more support than it's ever had. But I just say to you, I wouldn't put my whole IRA into Bitcoin. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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The second half of today's Best Docs.
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This next story kind of flows right into what we just ended with. Robin Hood, CEO, 10F, keenly looking into sports betting. So there you go, Barry. You lay on the couch, watch your Bitcoin go up, and then go over to your Robinhood account and bet on whether or not he's going to make that field goal or not, right?
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Yeah, then flip over, and then I don't have to leave my couch, and I can watch the game, right?
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And while you're there, go to DoorDash and have your meal delivered to you. It's just not built on a solid foundation. All right, French government topples as Parliament votes to oust Prime Minister. There's that. You know, their market is down 6% right now, and they've got big issues. They're like us, more spending than what they're taking in. Trump names Peter Navarro as Senior Trade Advisor. He's from my neck of the woods in Southern California. He was a professor at UC Irvine. I've followed Peter Navarro for many years. I'll say this, he's a tough guy. He was put in prison. And now he's out. And he wrote the book, Death by China, which he's no friend of China. He's not going to let China. Now he's on the front lines with China. He's the guy they've got to deal with, right?
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He knows the ins and outs. I mean, he's in the know. And he's got a bone to pick. Put that, yes.
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Taiwan semiconductor, NVIDIA, in talks to make AI chips at the Arizona plant. Well, you know, there was that law that Taiwan has that these chips can't be built anywhere but Taiwan, but I guess maybe they're trying to get around that. It would be nice. I mean, with China licking their chops at Taiwan, it would be nice to get those AI chips built somewhere else. In the meantime, OPEC, they're just going to shut down. They're not going to increase production of oil, likely for three months. It's stuck at about $68 per barrel. They want to wait and see. uh what trump does whether he's going to drill baby drill and which would drive down the price and increase the supply of oil here's a biotech similar scientific they buy 303 additional bitcoins between november so you know you have business models now I mean, MicroStrategy, what is it? It's nothing more than a company, really, that is buying Bitcoins. And you're sitting there owning stock in this company, and it's all based on Bitcoin.
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You essentially own their balance sheet.
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Yeah. Just imagine if this thing does start to crumble at some point, the impact that it would have. the ripple effect that it would have across the world reverberation across the world that's how big and how much money is bitcoin sucking out of the real economy okay you know where there's leverage involved i mean you take huge leverage and so why you know you look at say a micro strategy or why own you know micro strategy when you can own just uh say bitcoin outright right well
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MicroStrategy is borrowing to buy these Bitcoins. So it's essentially, whether you want to call it margin or what, they're using their capital structure to borrow here and buy more Bitcoin. Yes. It's really a leverage play. Highly leveraged. And leverage works both ways, right?
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It works both ways. It magnifies returns. It also magnifies losses. Great shall be the fall thereof, right, when it falls at some point in time. Okay, talent, energy, they announced the $600 million. Of course, it takes a lot of energy. Let's forget about artificial intelligence. I mean, we have artificial wealth here in this Bitcoin. It takes a lot of energy to mine these Bitcoins. I talked to a friend of mine, and he's doing it in his basement, and his electric bill was $30,000 a month, which is just a cost of doing business. But Cuba's grid is down. They're in the dark, okay? Our grid, how much can our grid handle? electric cars bitcoin manufacturing artificial intelligence machines will there be enough left over to cook our food and heat our houses i don't know g.e vernova wins a new bullet wolf as top proxy for accelerating electricity demand there you are all these stories kind of fit together like a glove right now.
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Yeah, AI and Bitcoin mining.
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I'm going to call Bitcoin AW. Bill Gunderson coined it. Artificial wealth. How long can it last? I don't know. We'll see. Have fun while it is in the bubble stage. GE Vernova. Now, that's a real way. I mean, if you want to play the picks and shovels, You know, the truth of the matter was that the gold rush in Southern California, where do you think the San Francisco 49ers got their name? It was 1849 when everybody rushed to California to become gold. gold millionaires and who made most of the money levi strauss and the people that sold the the the picks and the shovels and eventually it crashed and people went home and they found out that they had to clear land and plant seeds and grow crops and buy tractors and hard work the dust by the sweat of their brow once again. But the electricity play is real. I really believe that. And GE Vernova is right in smack dab in the middle of it. It was spun off by GE Electric. Meta. Meta, we talked about yesterday, to build a $10 billion AI data center in Louisiana. And they're going to work with Entergy for their energy needs. Well, Entergy is ETR. It's a utility company. All of a sudden, utility companies are trading like artificial intelligence stocks. ETR hit a new all-time high. I wouldn't say it's another like Vistra or Constellation Energy, but here you've got Meta building a $10 billion AI data center, and Entergy is going to be the one providing the energy to them. Okay, North Carolina City sues Duke Energy over climate change. Okay, so one of these North Carolina cities got flooded during the hurricane, and they're going to sue Duke Energy for creating this mess and climate change. We'll see how that one goes in the courts. Applied materials slides on Morgan Stanley downgrade. Yeah, you know, I'm not a fan. I have noticed, however, though, that ASM lithography, If I were going to own one or two of the semiconductor equipment makers, the guys who make the equipment, you know, China and the rules against selling to China have really hurt this industry. It's hurt the chip makers themselves, and it's hurt the companies that make the equipment for making these chips. And, of course, it's ASML that has kind of the patent, the lock, the corner on the market for making the really high-tech equipment for making the AI chips. But that stock has been kind of chilled here. It's just been kind of going sideways here. in a $650 to $700 range, but that would be the one I would own if demand for semiconductors starts to pick up again. And lamb research obviously would be the other one. Applied materials definitely would not be one of the stocks that I own at the current time. Okay, now when we come back, we're going to take a look underneath the surface. There's a few others. Here's one other one. I've been watching these quantum computing stocks, which are also part of this new age, golden age that we're in, Bitcoin age. We won't call it the golden age. We'll call it the golden age or the Bitcoin age. ARKIT Quantum. ARKIT Quantum is one of the stocks that was a recipient, I think, of Amazon investments. They reported their earnings today or lack thereof. They had $100,000 in sales. $100,000 for the quarter. Most companies do that in a few hours, you know, the Chipotles of the world and the McDonald's. This is for their whole quarter, and they lost $1.57 per share. So you're totally out there buying a company that may someday... have sales and have earnings. In the interim, it's down 17.3% today, ARQQ, as a little dose of reality sets in. While people were trading this thing, it went up to $32 after the Amazon news. And now today it's $20. So it's down 33% since it hit a high just three days ago. But, you know, the real, the bucket of cold water thrown in everybody's faces. There's no sales yet here. And there's big losses. They're burning through their balance sheet. Maybe they need to buy more Bitcoin. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Okay, let's look at some stocks here that are catching my eye here this morning. It's hard to not see Tesla. breaking out here today to a new 52-week high. Tesla is up 3.5%. You've got Ramaswamy and Elon headed to Washington today, Perry. They're going to go around just like, what, Hexeth has been going around, shaking hands with the Senators, trying to sell himself to the Senators. The Attorney General, Bondi, she's been going around selling herself. Today, you're going to have the richest man in the world wandering the halls of Congress along with Vivek. Reminds me of themselves.
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Remember the old downsizing days where the consultants come in, right? And, hey, what do you do? What do you do? And I think the whole movie was office space. But they're coming in and Hey, what's your job? Can we get rid of this? Can we get rid of that?
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How can we be efficient? Yes, okay. I wish them luck, the best of luck. But I've got to believe that has something to do with Tesla hitting a new all-time high. Not a new all-time high. The all-time high is 414. But it's closing in. It's at 370 right now.
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I forget it. I think it was one of the CEOs for, I think it was 3G Capital, which I believe was out of Brazil, if I'm not mistaken. But they partnered with Buffett years ago, I think on the craft deal and some other stuff. But their CEO had a saying that always got me was, uh expenses are like fingernails they always need to be trimmed and you know i think i think you know when you you take uh you know government budgets and bloating right i mean usually that you know i don't know how often that budget goes down usually you know likely just goes up every year and there are some years certainly over the last 20 25 years where it needed to go the other direction and you know now it's time for the for the pain to get there i guess
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Well, I heard a statistic, I think it was last night on the news, that while the size of our population has grown by 2% to 3%, government spending has grown by 53%. So there you go. Okay. So look, revenue comes from the population. If you're growing your population by 2%, your revenue, unless the economy, yes, you get some growth out of the economy, but your revenue is not growing by 53%. It's growing in low single digits while the spending, I mean, that's just not sustainable. There's another thing for me like Bitcoin that's not built on a true principle. And eventually, you know, true principles eventually went out. And these false notions and ideas, they don't end up well. And you could see inflation like nothing we've ever seen before if we're not careful here. So anyways, you've got to build on sound principles with truth behind them. Okay, let's take a look at the... There's not much happening in the Dow. The one that catches my eye on the Dow is UnitedHealthcare, which is a very strange story. Now they're finding that there were words engraved on those bullets. And, of course, I mean, they have the video of him walking up right behind him with a long pistol or a gun of some sort and killing him. And then going off, they got his iPhone, and they've got, like, a wrapper from some snacks he was eating. So I would think they'd get plenty of DNA or fingerprints. But what in the world is behind that? That is one weird story.
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On the bullet casings, too? I don't know if you said that.
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Yes, on the bullet casings. Deny, deflect, defend, I think. Really strange. Now, okay, so the Dow, that's the one that catches my eye on the Dow. Salesforce, which kind of set off the huge rally yesterday, is pulling back a little bit. It's down 2% today. Now, if we go to the S&P 500 today, let's see what's moving. It's definitely a profit-taking day. American Airlines is up 13.3%. Maybe they're buying more Bitcoin. I don't know. But they're up 13.3%. Brown Foreman which is alcohol up 9.9. Tesla. Tesla is probably the one of note there today. It's up 3.5% there today and that's a breakout on Tesla and for some reason the airlines are up today. There's got to be a reason. There's got to be a new transportation secretary. Something is out there on the airline stocks. I'm not a fan of the airline stocks. On the downside, you've got a chip stock getting hit pretty hard, Synopsys. which makes software to design chips, Synopsys is down 11.8%, and that's bringing down the chip stocks. Cadence is down 4.3%, Intel is down 3.7%, and other applied materials is down 3.5%, LAM Research is down 3.5%. So the chip stocks are, which had a pretty good day yesterday because of Marvell technology. Okay, and then we go to the NASDAQ, and we're seeing the same thing in the NASDAQ pretty much. American Airlines is the big winner in the NASDAQ today. Tesla number two. Up 3.5% at the bottom of the heap. Synopsis, cadence, mostly semiconductor stocks. Okay, well, we're adding people every day. I'm having so much fun teaching these classes every day. You know, some days are more active than others. It depends on the market. I would suspect today will be a little quieter than yesterday, but we did a lot of stuff yesterday, and I try to always explain things, and I always say, look, this stock we're buying is an investment. It's in our portfolios. The other ones that are in the incubator account are more trades, and I identify which are which, and I'm trying to teach buying and selling and when and where and how. Well, you try to give the reasons why. Yeah, exactly.
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You give the reasons why versus a lot of these services, it's, hey, buy this.
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Yes, and I always involve a chart, you know, so it's not like, trust me, just trust me. No, you make your own decision. I'm just telling you what I've observed over the years and what I see right now and why I like it and this and that. And then they ask me, Are you going to let us know when you sell? Well, of course I am, okay? That sometimes is harder than anything else. And I did make a big sell yesterday.
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Buying is way more fun, right?
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Join Kim Munson as she navigates the intricate landscape of political affairs, analyzing current legislation at the Statehouse and examining the themes of freedom versus force. Discover the importance of engaging with the political discourse and challenge yourself to apply ingenuity in solving modern-day issues. With expert insights and historical context, this episode offers a deep dive into essential political discussions.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I get to work with. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And the girls were over last night and a robust discussion regarding cybersecurity. Super fascinating. And, of course, we imbibed, or I guess you don't imbibe, so we had the delectable Hooters wings. They have specials on Wednesday. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. And they're certainly a fan favorite. When I finally got to the table, they were all gone. But great specials Monday through Friday at Hooters restaurants for lunch and for happy hour. There's five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster and Colorado Springs. How I got to know them. It's a very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties that want to control things. And you can find that whole story at my website. That is at Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. another great sponsor of the show is laramie energy and our oil gas and coal industries are under attack because these provide reliable efficient affordable and abundant energy sources and then we are able to power our lives fuel our hopes and dreams that industry is under attack but we're we're learning more and more about this whole agenda out there um the biden administration though It is just pushing all kinds of money out on the Green New Deal, which actually the Green New Deal is about the green that's going into people's pockets. And it's cronyism at – it's on steroids right now. That's about all that I can say. So that's why I would recommend – get your brain around this issue and check out a climateconversation.com which is the website for the documentary a climate conversation which is the project of wall johnson and we have been doing these amazing podcasts with um scientists experts in the field and you will learn a lot so be sure and check out a climateconversation.com our word of the day Let me, hopefully I did not erase that. Hold on here. Getting over to our word of the day is ingenuity. And it could be number one, skill or being clever, devising or combining, or it could be an ingenious device or contrivance. So ingenuity. I would say ingenuity is being very creative and tapping into that. So it's spelled I-N-G-E-N-U-I-T-Y. And your challenge is to use ingenuity in a sentence today. And I find great hope that those with ingenuity and creativity in this new administration will be able to thrive and prosper instead of the cronies of what we saw in the Biden administration. Our quote of the day, I went to Henry Hazlitt because our featured guest in the second hour is Jay Davidson. He's a fan favorite. He's a sponsor of the show as well, CEO and founder of First American State Bank. And he had commented on a piece that was in the Wall Street Journal that had referred to Henry Hazlitt's book, The Road to Serfdom. and of course we're going through henry hazel's book with producer joe and producer luke on economics in one lesson but henry hazlitt was born in 1894 he died in 1993. he was an american journalist economist and philosopher known for his advocacy of free markets and classical liberal principles over a career spanning more than seven decades hazlitt wrote extensively on business economics and public policy for prominent publications including the wall street journal The Nation, The American Mercury, Newsweek, and The New York Times. And he is best known for his 1946 book, Economics in One Lesson. And it is a work grounded in the Austrian School of Economics. And this is what he said. He said, for every alleged benefit that the politicians confer upon us, they must necessarily deprive us of something else. So I think that's pretty important. Again, that's from Henry Hazlitt. Let's see. This day in history. 1848, U.S. President James K. Polk triggers a gold rush in 1849 by confirming a gold discovery in California. Wow. In 1862, during the Civil War, the Battle of Coffeyville, the Confederate forces halt Ulysses S. Grant's Mississippi invasion via Tennessee. 1933, Prohibition ends in the U.S. when the 21st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is ratified and the 18th Amendment is repealed. This is interesting because we're coming up on the attack upon Pearl Harbor. But what is amazing regarding Pearl Harbor is that our aircraft carriers were not there because they obviously would have been hit, and that would have changed the dynamics of the war in the Pacific. So 1941, this is two days before we're attacked, the U.S. aircraft carrier Lexington and five heavy cruisers leave Pearl Harbor. And then in 1964, Captain Roger Dodlin and Captain Roger Dodlin was a very good friend of Drew Dick's. And Captain Roger Dodlin is awarded the first Medal of Honor of the Vietnam War for successfully repelling a large Viet Cong attack. And Roger passed on just recently. But very good friend of Drew Dix and Drew Dix's Medal of Honor recipient as well for actions that he took during the Vietnam War. And I don't think that we quite understand just how special the Center for American Values is, which is located in Pueblo. and the portraits of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients, I would highly recommend over Christmas break that you put the kids in the car and go visit the center. It is located on the Arkansas River, on the Riverwalk there of the Arkansas River in Pueblo, and it is really a reverent place. It's inspiring, and there's great restaurants around there, so I would recommend that you I recommend you do that. Put the kids in the car and go down to the Center for American Values. If you want more information regarding their hours, check out their website. That is AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. Thank you so much. The first one that I have, this is from Fox News, and it says it's an appeals court rules that the U.S. can deport illegal immigrants despite local objections, which is a win for the incoming Trump administration. And it says the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling rejected a 2019 local executive order that sought to counter then President Trump's immigration policies, saying that King County, Washington, violated its contract by prohibiting deportations at King County International Airport, which is also known as Boeing Field. The court ruled that the order was unlawful because it discriminated against ICE and targeted federal operations. In 2019, Trump used Boeing fields to deport illegal migrants from the U.S. and the local county sought to block the president's removal operations. Says the order prompted ICE to begin using an airport in Yakima, Washington, a much longer drive from ICE's Northwest Detention Center for the deportation flights. The relocation increased operational costs due to the greater distance from ICE detention facilities to the airport. It also led to increased security concerns. Of course, it would. It says, in response, the legal battle with King County ensued, and the U.S. in 2020 sued the county, alleging that it violated the terms of a World War II era contract that guarantees the federal government's right to use the airport along with discriminating against ICE. And this ruling was on Friday, the 30th of November. And Ninth Circuit Judge Daniel A. Bress upheld the court's decision. And in the ruling obtained by Fox News Digital, he wrote that this is not a situation in which King County officials are being conscripted into carrying out federal immigration laws on the federal government's behalf. Instead, the United States is asking King County, in its capacity as the owner of a public airport facility, to lift a discriminatory prohibition on private parties' ability to engage in business with the federal government that supports federal immigration efforts, the ruling states. So I think that that's a pretty big deal. Next thing that I wanted to mention, and we had Brandon Wark on earlier this week regarding this Democrat strategy of Democrats running for office. getting elected and then vacating that seat where a vacancy committee will then come in and make the decision on who will then, a Democrat vacancy committee will determine who will then be seated in either the Senate or the House of Representatives. So this is from Colorado Politics and It says State Representative Iman Jodah announces for State Senate District 29. And that is the seat that's being vacated by Janet Buckner. Jodah won reelection in her third term in the House in November. She is the first Muslim and Palestinian American elected to the Colorado General Assembly. An Arapahoe County Democrat vacancy committee will choose Buckner's successor on January 6th. Buckner announced last month that she would step down on January 9th. She won re-election for the seat on November 5th, running unopposed. Joda has a long history with the Buckner family, whom she's known since she was four. One of Buckner's daughters has been friends with Joda since elementary school. In 2021, in an interview, Joda told Colorado Politics that her parents came to Colorado from Palestine as immigrants and refugees in 1974. She says she grew up an all-American girl watching Broncos football games and visiting the mountains. But her family's history was never left behind, and their summers were spent in Palestine. While those summers spent with her grandmother were happy, she also saw what was happening there. So she said Monday that running for the Senate vacancy allows her to expand representation into a larger district. My experience as a state representative allows me to bring solid representation, one in which every voice is heard and valued at the Capitol. She said, I will be unapologetic in advocating for Senate District 29. So stay tuned on that. That's going to be super interesting. And then the last headline that I'm going to hit right now is this is from Bloomberg. And it says thousands of federal employees land work from home deal ahead of Trump. And it says the Biden administration point he has agreed to lock in hybrid work protections for tens of thousands of Social Security staff, part of a slew of organized labor efforts that complicate President-elect Donald Trump's efforts to reshape the federal workforce. It says the American Federation of Government Employees and even FDR didn't think that government employees should have a union. But it's a union representing 42,000 Social Security Administration workers reached an agreement with the agency last week that will protect telework until 2029 in an updated contract, according to a message to its members viewed by Bloomberg. And we recall where with the meeting with Trump and Biden, Biden said that there will be a smooth transition. But on their way out the door, they are pushing out as much money as they can, making these kinds of contracts, trying to thwart and complicate what the people of America are asking Trump to do, and that is to shrink government. 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It's great to be with you once again, Kim. Thank you for inviting me.
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Well, yes. And the Supreme Court is in session. And this is part of a term. Explain that. And you did such a good job the last time you were on the show. But for people that missed that, explain how this works with the Supreme Court, how they're hearing cases, how they'll make their decisions. I guess the time frame, really.
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Well, for historic reasons, this is called the 2023 term. Actually, this is a 2024 term and will continue to be the 2024 term through about June 30th. And that's because the term began on October 2024. And so the court begins to take up cases. It decides which ones that it wants to hear. Nearly all cases that go to the Supreme Court are the result of an application or a petition for what's called a writ of certiorari. which is a discretionary review by the court. In other words, very rarely do you actually have the right to be heard by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court rejects or accepts cases at its discretion. It decides which cases to grant certiorari in, that is to say, which cases to hear. And then it sets up oral argument. So we saw, for example, the transgender case, Skirmati v. United States, oral argument was heard the other day oral argument will continue really for months now and then so is the oral argument for this case done or do they continue to have that as far as I know the oral argument for that case is done but there will be a lot of others and the court will start issuing opinions initially in a dribble and eventually in a flood. terminating by an absolute deluge toward the end of June.
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Okay. So this was a very important case that was heard and the headline that I found is apparently Judge Brown Jackson said something that was very, I think, controversial regarding this whole transgender case. So set this up for this particular case because I think it really is important.
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Well, I think the place to start is not with the court but with politics. Why is it that suddenly transgender issues are a fixation with the media and with the left? Why is it that the term gender-affirming care has been invented to signify the denial of someone's gender? And the reason is that basically traceable to Obamacare. Obamacare was adopted in 2010. And while it was ambiguous on the issue of whether gender transition care or surgery was covered, the bureaucracy, including the health care bureaucracy, assumed that it was and started giving Health insurance companies started covering these kinds of operations and drugs. And the federal government, notably the Obama administration, and then later the Biden administration, began to push insurance companies further toward covering if they didn't already. The result was that a new interest group was created. This interest group consists of partly transgender individuals, but more powerfully, the whole health care lobby, particularly those people who do transgender work. And so the left saw this as a potential element in the coalition and started speaking to their issues to enlist that lobby. So the reason we're hearing so much about this is, as so often happens, Kim, a federal spending program. Federal spending programs have all kinds of unintended and unknown consequences, mostly bad. And this is one example. So the next big development was a case decided in 2020 called the Bostock case. And in it, the Supreme Court held that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which banned discrimination based on sex and was clearly designed to prevent discrimination against women, would be interpreted to mean discrimination for any reasons connected to sex. So instead of merely being a statute that protected women and men against discrimination, it would now be interpreted to mean cover homosexuals and transgender individuals. That, again, was clearly not the intent of Congress at all. We can explain why the court did what it did, but I don't want to get that far into the weeds. Anyway, based on the notion that sex is a legally protected category and that that includes transgenderism, The current case was brought against the Tennessee law that prohibits the use of so-called gender-affirming care for minors. The claim in this case is not a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The claim is that this particular decision by the Tennessee legislature violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. And so that's really what the parties are arguing right now, whether a law that protects minors against this kind of, I would say, abuse somehow violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
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It's unbelievable to me. And thank you for setting this up. I didn't quite understand that. But for you to connect the politics with the courts, I think that's really important. But Rob, how? The moral thing, you mentioned the healthcare lobby, and we've had Pam Long on, who she'd done research on over a lifetime, transgender, I don't want to say care, because I don't think that's the right word, but the transgender operations and pharmaceuticals that somebody has to take and do over a lifetime is close to a million dollars or more.
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Yeah, I mean these people become permanent patients and therefore permanent consumers of government funds, insurance company funds, and permanent users of health care services. I would think – the news reports seem to suggest based upon the judge's questions that the Tennessee law against inflicting this stuff on minors is going to be upheld. I would hope so. For one reason, one reason is I think the court has learned something, hopefully, from its experience with Roe versus Wade. You cannot federalize an issue like this. Health care was designed by the founders of our Constitution to be a state issue. with health care issues being resolved in state legislatures or locally or by families, not by the federal government. That was the great lesson with the 50 years of horrendous, divisive experience under Roe v. Wade, for the court to start wading in again and say, well, Under the Constitution, which of course says nothing about health care at all, under the Constitution, this kind of operation is okay and that kind of operation is okay. And it's okay if you ban it for people below 18 but not people above 18 or below 16 or parental – I mean – Those are the kinds of things that the court got into, trying to fine-tune what amounted to legislation in the years under Roe v. Wade. I cannot imagine them wanting to wade into that particular swamp again, but who knows.
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Gosh, and the money that is involved. And when we talk about health care costs, when insurance companies are forced and then federal programs like Medicaid, does Medicaid cover transgender operations or do you know?
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I think the answer generally to that is yes. Now, it depends to a certain extent on the state. And it depends upon whether the company – well, it depends on the state, really. But increasingly, the pressure from the administration, the Biden administration, has been to require the coverage. There is some material on this online. The reason I'm being a little vague here is that the material is also a little vague. Obamacare doesn't explicitly say that this stuff has to be covered. But what you see is pressure in the bureaucracy in that direction. Look, there's a point I think that a lot of Republicans and conservatives and moderates don't understand. And that is that every time you create a massive new federal spending program, you don't just spend the money and make the deficit worse. you also create certain toxic cultural effects. One may be increasing dependency, but another is illustrated in this particular issue, and that is that the priorities of the left, which generally control the federal bureaucracy, tend to become the priorities of the whole country because there's so much money behind it. You know how I first noticed this? As you know, I was A professor of law, this is where I taught constitutional law at the University of Montana, and I was there for 24 years. There's a cynical expression that some French people have, and pardon my French accent, cherchez la femme. Cherchez la femme means if a man is doing something really questionable or stupid, look for the woman. He's probably trying to impress a woman or there's a woman pressuring him. I modified that to – if you see something really stupid that's going on in a university campus, check out the federal program. Look for the federal program. There's probably some federal dollars behind it somewhere encouraging people to do this. And what I particularly noticed is the provost invited us for a luncheon, and there were 10 of us, and we all described our research. And eight of the 10 were all working on various political correct projects that – I mean, they were all – and they were driven by federal dollars. The two of us who were not was myself. I was working on constitutional history and a woman who was a mathematician. But everybody else was working on these politically correct projects because there was so much federal money and federal support behind it. So you mentioned the decision by the American people that they want government shrunk. Yes. It's not just a financial imperative, it's a cultural imperative. I mean, social conservatives as well as fiscal conservatives need to get on board because the size of the federal government and the priorities of the federal government are destroying the culture. And that, by the way, will only change marginally under the Trump administration. He'll make a few changes, but most of them will be easily reversible changes, and he won't be able to get down deep into the federal bureaucracy. The only way to get down deep in the federal bureaucracy is literally repeal and defund federal programs, make them go away entirely so they can't come back.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we need to work on that. I'm talking with Rob Nadelson. He is a nationally known constitutional scholar. And I have a few more questions regarding this case that was heard regarding transgender operations on children. And so we'll talk about that when we come back. I wanted to mention Doyle Glass. He was our guest for America's Veterans Stories last week, and he's written the book Swift Sword, which is the true story of the Marines of Mike 3-5 in Vietnam on 4 September 1967. And the week of the 16th of December, he has a national focus on his book and also honoring our Vietnam veterans. And so be sure and check out the book. I think it's a great book to have at home on your shelf or your Freedom Library. And I think it's a great gift for Christmas or Hanukkah for that veteran service member in your family. So be sure and check out Swift Sword.
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Back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And during the break, you heard the spot for Doyle Glass's book, Swift Sword. And as we learn about these stories of our Marines, it's one of the reasons why I'm so honored to support the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial right here in Colorado, the official memorials right here in Colorado. And so you can contribute or you can buy a brick for your loved ones to honor your loved one's military service. You'll get a great certificate that you'll receive. It's a beautiful certificate and just a wonderful gift for Christmas or Hanukkah. So more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Rob Nadelson is on the line, and he is a constitutional scholar. He's the author of the book, The Original Constitution, What It Actually Said and Meant. It's in its third edition. Rob Nadelson, words matter. And to say gender, when you say gender affirming care, that's not really, I don't think that that's accurate. It really is gender mutilation of young people. And I think that we need to speak truth into what this actually is. And then To have a Supreme Court justice, this was Kejani Brown, suggest that to prevent gender mutilation of children is equivalent apparently to the laws that were banning interracial marriage. I'm just floored that she would make that connection, if you will.
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They don't have much to go on constitutionally. And that's one of the few reads they're grasping to promote their case. The other one I mentioned was the Bostock decision. It is kind of surprising to me that the Supreme Court even decided to hear this case, but I guess it wanted to establish a precedent one way or another. As for the euphemism gender-affirming care, people who have indefensible causes will come up with ways to cut off debate or to cut off thought through the use of phrases and euphemisms. Let me give you a good example. You may recall that in the years before the Civil War, there was a dispute as to which states would be slave and which ones would be free. And Stephen A. Douglas took the position which he called popular sovereignty. The idea was, he said, shouldn't the people of a state decide whether they want to be slave or free? Of course, the problem with that is when he referred to the people of a state in popular sovereignty, he was eliminating mentally anyone who was black. In other words, it was popular sovereignty only among white people. But the term popular sovereignty sounds really good. And it excluded the fact – excuse me, it obscured the fact that it justified a majority of one ethnic group enslaving another. You see the same thing with the abortion lobby, reproductive rights, when what, of course, they mean is killing an unborn child. Again, it's a way of – blocking thought or unplugging our critical faculties through the use of words. It was, of course, summarized in the great George Orwell novel, 1984.
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Yeah. And guys, through the Biden-Harris administration, I felt like we certainly were living through 1984. So let's talk about the election, because with Trump being elected, I didn't even realize kind of this weight. that was on my shoulders because of the more onerous government and government picking winners and losers. Of course, a straight white male was at the bottom of the pecking order on anything because they were picking winners and losers instead of looking at people through merit, what they could do and do well. So I feel that there's hope and opportunity with the Trump election. What's your thoughts?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, let's start with the negative and move to the positive, okay? Okay. As you know, I combine constitutional scholarship and my legal work with my work as a historian. I'm trained in history. I have a degree in history, and much of my work is historically driven. President Biden has expressed interest in how presidential historians would rate him and other presidents. And I've written a little bit on this, and I plan to write some more. But if you go through the list of American presidents and you find which ones have been marked down low, you'll find that there are certain categories that tend to get them marked down low. James Buchanan, for example, is marked down low because he failed to enforce the law against the seceding southern states. Andrew Johnson is marked down low in part because of his highly divisive rhetoric. Woodrow Wilson is probably not marked down as low as he should be, but one thing that does weigh him down is the fact that he was mentally incapacitated for part of his term.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's like Deja Vu all over again, huh?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Some presidents... Wilson is an example, but also Lincoln are marked down for suppression of civil liberties. And then some are marked down for bad policy decisions. So I don't know of any president. I don't. Excuse me.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, Lincoln is. He was in the middle of a civil war.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and he got rid of habeas corpus.
SPEAKER 14 :
Was that the right decision? Right. Was that the right decision for him to do that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, no, and the Supreme Court slapped him down for suspending the rid of habeas corpus in an area that was not part of the war theater. But the point I'm trying to make is if you go down the list of negatives that get presidents knocked down, you'll find that in history, there's only one president who checks all of those boxes, who has all of those negatives, who has been involved in the suppression of civil liberties, who has had capacity problems, whose rhetoric has been highly divisive, who has failed in his constitutional obligation to enforce the law. And that's Joe Biden. We're coming literally, I believe, out of one of the worst, if not the worst, presidencies in American history. And I'm not saying that as a matter of hyperbole. I think that is an accurate assessment. And I think that will be history's assessment. Now, let's turn to the election, because generally what happens if a president is a very poor president, he doesn't win a second term. And that, of course, was the case in this instance. The election was closer than we like to think. Trump won in the popular vote by less than 2%. This is disguised somewhat by the Electoral College because he won a sweeping Electoral College victory. But we can't forget the fact that over 48% of the people voted – or 47% of the people voted for Kamala Harris despite the horrendous record of the Biden administration. And again, that is – I'm going to circle back here to use Jen Psaki's famous phrase – That is largely due to the size of the federal government. We have a tremendous part of the electorate that is dependent upon federal dollars, either for welfare programs or insurance programs, or they're protected by regulation or they're directly employed by the federal government. And those people tend to vote liberal no matter what the other merits are in the election. And so that, once again, points out the importance of the Trump administration getting to the root of the problem, not doing what they did in his first term, which was to cut back some regulations, which could be easily reversed, but to actually defund permanently certain federal programs. Department of Education is a good place to start. The other point I wanted to make regarding the election pertains to the Electoral College, and that is the Electoral College tends to reward candidates with national support and to punish candidates with mostly regional support. The reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, despite the fact that she had a tiny plurality of the vote, is because she was pretty much a regional candidate. And if you look at some of the maps of the counties she carried, you can see that. Her support was very spotty. The Electoral College assures that a victorious president, or almost a not 100%, but almost assures that the winner of the presidential election will be someone with broad national support. And that, of course, goes a long way toward helping to prevent the breakup of the country.
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Well, welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. Rob Nadelson is on the line with me, and you know him. He is a constitutional expert. He's a constitutional scholar and author, and he's the author of the original Constitution. What it actually said and meant, it's in its third edition. Rob Nadelson, the Electoral College. was brilliant by our founders because they wanted to make sure that the minority voices could be heard as well, such as the smaller states. And so they came up with this electoral college, which the radical activists, Democrats, have really wanted to get rid of that. And you mentioned the national popular vote. And don't you remember that movement of trying to have different states sign a compact that said that their electoral college votes would go to whoever won the national popular vote? Well, and Colorado signed on to that compact. They still need additional states to try to make that happen. But if, in fact, that compact was in place right now, Colorado's electoral votes would go to Donald Trump. But I think it was a strategy to try to obviously circumvent. Well, it's obvious that it's a strategy to circumvent the Electoral College. So what do you think about all that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, well, let me start by saying that we really need to do a whole program on the Electoral College sometimes, Kim, because there's no one reason for the Electoral College. It's not just to protect minorities or just not to protect against regional elections. The development of the presidential election system, of which the Electoral College is only a part, was identified by the founder, James Wilson. as the most difficult task the founders had in drafting the Constitution. And there were something like a dozen different factors that they had to balance against each other. It wasn't just regionalism. It wasn't just protection of minority rights. A whole series of factors. And that's why I think it's worth an entire show. It's a date.
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We'll make that happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. As to why the left opposes... The Electoral College, the common theme that runs through all their positions is the breakdown of obstructions on central power and their ability to control the central power. So they oppose the Electoral College because it's a break on federal power. It empowers the states. It empowers certain minorities and so forth. And because they generally control the federal government, not entirely, but they want to be able to lock that up. And they don't want obstructions to that. It's the same reason they attack the family. It's the same reason they attack corporations. It's the same reason why they favor the federal government controlling things at the expense of the states. It's the same reason why they go against religions. The states, religions, families, corporations, business enterprises, they are what sociologists call mediating institutions. That is to say they're institutions that protect the individual so the individual is not standing naked against the centralized state. And so they want to do all of that. So when you hear them bad-mouthing corporations or bad-mouthing Christianity or increasingly bad-mouthing Judaism – or calling for a uniform centralized solution. It's all really part of the same theme, which is, we want the feds to control everything, and we will control the feds, and you will do what we say. It is a form of totalitarianism. It's not, as many people have said, your daddy's liberalism. I mean, liberals never really understood economic rights, but they certainly understood political rights like free speech. The current gang doesn't understand any right other than your ability to be controlled by them, even the so-called right of abortion. I would argue, is part of the larger agenda of encouraging family breakdown.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And so many young people have been really indoctrinated into this because so many of our different institutions have been taken over. Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
And people and if I could, people blame the public schools. So they have a lot of a lot of blame. But the worst blame is the universities. I'm saying that as a longtime former university employee. If you look at the polling for the people who are most far left, you'll see that it is disproportionately fairly recent graduates of universities. especially prestige universities. And many people, including myself, who have seen members of our family go through this process and been converted from reasonable people into far radical leftists, recognize that. Remember I talked about defunding federal programs? Near the top of my list would be an end of the student loan program and an end to to all federal funding of universities and university research except what is necessary to promote national defense.
SPEAKER 14 :
I totally agree with you on that. But the tentacles of this are so embedded. And so when I was on city council, I'm trying to remember this, it was a while ago, but I think that they were considering. I'm not sure that it was passed. I think that it was. And maybe it was for police officers. But there was the stipulation that you had to have a college degree. It didn't matter whether or not that college degree was in the field that you were applying for the job. You just had to have that college degree. Right, which makes sense.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which makes no sense. Even if college were valuable, you wouldn't insist upon a college degree if it was unrelated, right? But increasingly, college is not particularly valuable for life skills.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I think that we're going to see a big cultural shift. I think a lot of people are not being woke. I think that they are waking up. And this idea that young people have been encouraged to take on all this debt for a college degree. And then they're saddled with it for so long. It's just really, really a tragic thing. But I'm encouraged. We have a minute left, Rob Nadelson. It's always fascinating. We'll get you scheduled here soon for a whole discussion on the Electoral College. But how would you like to button this up?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'd like to button it up by letting folks know where they can see my writings. I'm a senior fellow in constitutional jurisprudence at the Independence Institute right here in Denver. And so if you go to independenceinstitute.org, independenceinstitute, all one word, .org, and go to the Constitution tab, most of my writing is there. In addition, you can acquire, either from barnesandnoble.com or amazon.com, my book, The Original Constitution, what it actually said and meant, and also a book I've written on the Constitution's amendment process called The Law of Article 5. That's more for specialists. But the original Constitution book is for the layperson.
SPEAKER 14 :
And again, that is another book that people should have a hard copy, I think, at home in their Freedom Library. I have several copies, and it's such an important work. So Rob Nadelson, I wish you a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Holiday Season, and we will get you scheduled to have that whole discussion regarding the Electoral College. So thank you so much. thank you kim it's been great talking to you and your audience and we learn so much and our quote for the end of the show is from henry hazlitt and he said when alexander the great visited the philosopher dion dionogenes and asked whether he could do anything for him dionogenes said to have replied yes stand a little less between me and the sun and is what every citizen is entitled to ask of his government So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Good morning, Kim.
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So what do you think about this?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I think it's interesting that the headline had to do with coal in our conversation last night, which was trains and the lack of train transportation for transformers or the lack of transformers. And I made the comment about, well, the reduction in coal, and somebody said, no, no, we still produce coal. Well... Here's an example, right, of cutting down coal production and the vulnerability of how we're all connected. And if things go down, and then you add to the conversation the cost, which as we continue the conversation of affordability in housing, public policy, mandates for electrifying, greenhouse, you know, green roofs, all those type of things increase the cost of houses.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I ended up in a debate with a face-to-face debate with Denver Mayor Mike Johnston during the election season. And he had this proposal for an additional sales tax for, I have this in air quotes, affordable housing or subsidized housing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that was defeated. But one of the things I said is if you... increase sales taxes then that increases the cost of things for people which makes their life less affordable it's like that's an important dot to connect and I think and the people of Denver did connect that dot because they voted that down right and he and I had that exact same conversation and I you know it's it's the story of robbing Peter to pay Paul right and
SPEAKER 16 :
So you take money from the people who want to support the city and county of Denver through purchasing products and services, and then you earmark it for another group of people. And if we would have allowed supply to increase, That also would have created affordability, and we have so many restrictions on building that supply got way behind, which again increased property values, median home prices, and it just seems to acerbate itself, and yet on a positive note. We have houses to sell during the holiday season, and people are still thinking about buying and selling, and there's opportunity out there. Sellers that are on the market over the holidays generally have a need to sell, and so there might be more negotiating opportunity. So I'm working, and people are achieving homeownership and the dream of, and so that part's great.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it is. And some people that I know are selling their home and buying another home, and you are helping them with that. And I'm just amazed at the, I would say, kind of the stable of experts that you have, that you work with, home inspectors. And I just kind of gleaned some of this information from our conversations, Karen, that you have people that... If you need to fix something in a home to get it ready for sale, you have a whole group of people that are real professionals that you work with and can really help people, and we say this in your spot, to navigate this home buying experience.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and I think people don't understand that my... job is goes far beyond locating the home, contracting for the home, and getting to the closing. Many people think it's just showing up and I collect my fee. There is so much that goes on during that journey and things that we encounter as far as through the inspection process. And like you said, Kim, I need vendors available. And so I have trusted vendors and I am able to reach out to them and say, hey, I need this plumbing problem fixed here in the next, you know, 72 hours. Can you fit me in? And they always do, unless there's some unforeseen circumstance. But they appreciate doing business with me because I appreciate doing business with them, and they bring a good quality of service and product to my clientele, and that obviously is helpful for everybody to navigate that. all the bumps in the road as we travel from under contract to closing. And I guess I think I believe I've become very good at being able to put all those parts and pieces together.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I can attest that you are, so I greatly appreciate that. If people want to buy or sell a home or look at a new build, what's that phone number for Karen Levine?
SPEAKER 16 :
The best way to reach me is 303- 877-7516. That's Karen Levine, 303-877-7516. And Karen, you and Lorne are going to be in studio next week, so I'll look forward to seeing you.
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SPEAKER 14 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter so that you'll get first look at all of our upcoming guests and our most recent essays. As you all know, I'm an independent voice. I purchased my airtime, which means I have full control over subject selection, guest selection. And... So we're blessed to bring great guests to you, and I'm really blessed to work with amazing sponsors as well. And one of those great sponsors is First American State Bank and Jay Davidson. He is the CEO and founder of First American State Bank. And, Jay, you have been supporting the show for many years. I'm going to be starting my six-year solo broadcasting here at the beginning of 2025, and you've been with me through all of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and even before. I mean, time flies fast. I sure appreciate all the good you're doing for this area and our thought processes here.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and you are a fan favorite as a featured guest. So it's great to have you on. And I want to talk about the UK. But before we do that, you are the founder and CEO of First American State Bank. And I always, I think I saw some of your ads sometimes in some of the magazines. And I was under the impression that First American State Bank, a great community bank, but that you worked with maybe higher worth individuals. But that's not necessarily the case, right? No.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, we believe, and this is a cliche, but it's true, we believe everybody is worth a hell of a lot, and we appreciate everybody. And, in fact, I've been actively trying to expand into the millennial and Gen Z and Gen X and whatever those other young folks are into that market because they're ideal for what we do. I mean, we don't do cookie-cutter banking. And if you own your own business, you need a bank like me, somebody that will sit down with you. You have access to us at any time. We're kind of like concierge medicine where you want to call the doctor. You know, here's my cell phone. Call me. And that's what we do. And you don't have to be high net worth to bank with us. In fact, we'd love to have anybody come on in and talk to us. We really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 14 :
So where are you located, Jay Davidson?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, we're in the tech center on Bellevue and Yosemite Street. Well, it changes from Tamarack to Yosemite right there. It's 8390 East Crescent Parkway, Suite 100 in Greenwood Village, Colorado. And you can go on our website, FASBank.com, and get directions to the bank.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and last time that we talked last month, in addressing this market of millennials and all of the Xers and Yers and all that, they like all this online stuff. And so knowing where you are is important, but you are offering all this online banking, which is exactly what they want.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I'm very fortunate that my daughter and son and their spouses... are all millennials, and every one of them is very computer literate, and in fact, my daughter works for the bank, and she runs our web-based products, and we just brought on an entire rather deep set of applications, I guess you'd call them. Again, I'm talking way out of my league, because I don't know how these things work, but applications to do all your banking. I mean, you want to take a picture of your deposit, send it to us, we'll deposit it into your account. You want to balance your checkbook online, we got that. You want to transfer money, we can do that. You want to apply for a loan, you bet. So our online presence has really been beefed up in order to address the millennial and younger people.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and then one other thing, speaking of your daughter, what is amazing about your family is, again, I've known this for all these years, is you are so supportive of many different nonprofits that are doing great work. But one of those is Volunteers of America. And your daughter has really taken this on regarding this toy drive, which is so impressive.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, she started this 10 years ago. I didn't even know she was doing it. And she's grown this into an incredible event. Thousands and thousands of toys are generated and provided for the VOA recipients. There's nothing more heartwarming than to give a child who is homeless or destitute, whose family is destitute, a gift over Christmas. I know it sounds simple and, you know, transitory, but Man, to see the light in that child's eyes is worth every effort. So my daughter has done an incredible job. I mean, I'm just blown away, and I'm obviously very proud of what she's been doing.
SPEAKER 14 :
It really is awesome. Is it too late if people would like to help, or is that ship sailed already?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, bring it over. No, it's here. In fact, I walk into the bank and you can see all sorts of toys. I don't go to my office anymore. I just sit there and play with them.
SPEAKER 14 :
A kid at heart, that's for sure. And what about if people don't have time to shop? Is there a way they could just give some money?
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure. Go onto our website, FASBank.com, and you'll see the toy drive icon on the top. Click on that, and you can donate right there.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, a wonderful thing to do this Christmas season and Hanukkah season as well. Jay, let's get over here, though, to something that we need to, I think, address. And this is an excellent piece that you had shared with your contacts regarding a Wall Street Journal piece on the new United Kingdom government gets a lesson in supply-side economics as businesses revolt against tax hikes. And your commentary on this, this was by Joseph Sternberg, I think was really important. So what should people know?
SPEAKER 10 :
Economics is called the dismal science, variously, and also really it's a study of human nature. That's really what economics is. It has very little to do with numbers down to the tenth decimal point. If a human person, an individual person, is stimulated to do one thing, he'll do that. And if he's de-stimulated, he'll do something else. Taxes are not stimulative in any way, shape, or form. They're a necessary evil, but they're not stimulative. They're depressive. And when I talk about taxes, that is the only way that a government can obtain revenue. The other way they can do it is similar to a tax. It's called debt. And And but that still is a expense on the individual person. It's not on the corporations. They pass that through. It's you and me and everybody else that's working for a living is paying the debt and paying the taxes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it's important to drive that point home is that government does not create anything. And so the only way that it can do things is by taking money from the individual and then also debt. In a way, that's also taking money from future individuals as well because that debt has to be paid off over time.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're exactly right, Kim. All government revenue comes from... from the citizen, from you and me, from the taxpayer, from the person that's working day and night trying to put food on the table for his family and get along in this world. It comes from us. The government doesn't generate income. And that's the beautiful thing about private business and individuals. They do generate profit. They do generate income. We are capable of doing that in a voluntary system. And that term voluntary is absolutely critical to the concept of capitalism and fair market trades. And the definition of fair market, as we've discussed in the past, is a willing buyer, a willing seller without outside coercion. In other words, a voluntary transaction. Now, I can sit here in the bank and I can offer you all these nice little products and you can choose to take them or not. If I don't take care of you, you can choose to go somewhere else. That's voluntary. I don't have a voluntary voice in the matter of taxation or the matter of debt that's put on my family and me and all future generations or on the spending that the government does that distorts the markets in which I play. That's not voluntary. That's mandatory. And I understand everybody will say, well, we need some of it. Yeah, we do need some of it, probably. But we don't need what we have today. There's too much.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, there is too much. And over the Thanksgiving holiday, we took some respite, the team, so that we were not up at O-Dark 30 every day. And I did a lot of thinking. And certainly... The federal government, Donald Trump has Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, and they're tasked with shrinking government. And I love that. But what I was thinking about, Jay, is local, county, and state governments is where I think that there's really embedded a lot of this government spending. And we have... staff that bureaucrats that are really kind of running the show at the local county and state levels in many ways how can we do doge colorado and so that's my new thing that i want to work on is doge colorado okay And I think one of the things is that we start to put pressure on the federal government to stop these grants that are coming to local, county, and state government because that's not the proper role of government. And so this is all just, I'm just thinking about it, but what do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
The whole rubric is spending, cutting government spending. That's the source of the issue. That's why tax rates are so high. That's why debt is so high. That's why private industry and individuals are feeling so much pain. That's why there is inflation, which is dollar devaluation. It's government spending is the source of this evil. And we need to hold every single elected person accountable, whether it's federal, state, local, regional, next-door neighbor on your HOA. We need to absolutely hold them accountable. And that's the function of the individual citizen. It's the beauty of the way our Constitution was built. Our founders understood human nature. And they said, well, if it left to its own devices, the government's going to become a monarchy or a tyranny, just like we fought Great Britain to end, and we're going to have it back in no time at all. Well, that's true. That's where we are today. That's why The rebellion in favor of Trump and against Biden happened so precipitously and so powerfully because people are sick and tired of a government, a woke society, ESG, DEI, transgenderism, global climate change, carbon footprint, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. They're tired of the government telling them what to do. In fact, they're sick and tired of it and fed up. So The point I think that you're making is that it is the individual and the business that is capable of generating profit. That profit, when left to their own devices, can be reinvested in the business. That will then grow the business, allow the business person to hire more people who will then benefit from capitalism. Capitalism is the greatest gift to individuals since the The idea of sliced bread. I mean, it's just incredible how well it functions. And it is truly the goose that lays the golden egg. And the golden egg is profitability. Well, our government is overtaking that. And Britain is a perfect example of socialism gone wrong. And socialism always goes wrong. There is not a case in history where socialism has not destroyed the private economy, the capitalistic economy. Not a single one. And yet these lefties continue to try and force these ideas on us. You know why? Because they know better. They're smarter than the rest of us. Well, I hate to tell you, but you're not. Anyway, I'll shut up right now.
SPEAKER 14 :
I totally agree. And I want to continue to talk about that. I'm talking with Jay Davidson. He is the CEO and founder of First American State Bank. And another great sponsor of the show is LaVockabee Company.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure to check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. I'm talking with Jay Davidson, CEO and founder of First American State Bank. First American State Bank is a great partner of the show. It is located right here in Greenwood Village. And really, they're doing great work in expanding their banking options to, I consider them all younger people, although some of these millennials are getting to middle age. Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you don't have to remind me of that, you know, where that puts me on that scale. I thought I was middle-aged. Oh, wait. Only if you lived to be 140 would I be middle-aged.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think 85 is now middle-aged.
SPEAKER 10 :
There you go. I'm with you.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, Jay Davidson, we were talking about supply-side economics and the United Kingdom. They're having a business revolt regarding higher and higher taxes. But so over here on this side of the pond, Donald Trump has tasked Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy with shrinking government. And so government employees are concerned about losing their jobs. I think people have a heart for their neighbors and are concerned if their neighbors lose their jobs. But if we get government to shrink and the private economy to grow, I think that there's going to be amazing jobs for these people.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, this is a difficult situation. A lot of my friends want the slash and burn routine, you know, pounding their chests and feeling good about knocking the government down. You know, I've been railing against the government for most of my life. And, you know, I... I'm not one to say slash and burn. I don't think that's intelligent or rational, and please hear me out before you scream at the radio. I think using attrition, in other words, freezing hiring, and when people leave their government jobs, don't rehire, and set a scale for reducing the number of employees would be more...
SPEAKER 14 :
I think prudent would be a good word.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it's a good word. Yeah, prudent, rational. And let these good folks, you know, that are leaving the government positions and the bureaucratic world, you know, segue into the private economy. It's a whole different world for these people, one that they're not familiar with and they don't understand. I mean, believe me, government spending has got to stop. It's got to stop now. It's got to be reduced now. We are running out of runway. So I'm all in favor of stopping it, but I like to do it rationally, intelligently, and over a longer period of time. And I think if we try to do it voluntarily in a sense of, well, you know, you can keep your current job, but when you retire or die or quit, you know, we're not replacing you kind of thing. See if that gets us to where we want to be. But the greater issue is the concept of what is the intent here? What is the overall cause? What is the overall rationale for what we're doing? And the whole rationale has got to be to establish rigid rules for government spending and not allow it to spend more than it makes. Make the government function within the bounds of its tax revenue and actually less than It's tax revenue. The reason I say that government spending should be, let's say, 2% less than gross domestic product or 2% less than what the government revenue is, is that we've got trillions and trillions of dollars of debt outstanding that's costing us close to $1 trillion in interest every year, none of which we can pay back. So every year our debt is going up by a trillion just due to the accrued interest. So this is wrong, and this has been going on for decades. And it's the whole mindset that you and I and other people like us are trying to change. The government cannot continue to spend the way it has been spending. There is an end point to it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and those on the left like to use the word sustainable. Well, this is not sustainable, and there will be a day of reckoning. But I think that we can make choices now and shrink government. And then I really think the government, the federal government, has no business anymore. giving out grants for special interests. And that is a place I'd love to see spending shrink as well. I don't think that's the proper role of government. And these local jurisdictions and county and state that are kind of getting that gravy money and doing things with it, which is not the proper role of government, I think we should stop that spending right now.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's a very good place to start. This is called cronyism, and it's not in any way, shape, or form capital cronyism. There is no capitalism in this. It is pure cronyism, and that has got to stop. The government, when they spend money, even Elon Musk, the darling of the conservatives now, took advantage of a government loophole. He said, you know, if you're going to pay, give citizens an $8,000 or $10,000 or $20,000 tax break, I'll make this car for you, even though I know it's not cost-effective, and I'll sell it for Y when it should be Y plus $20,000. Well, he took advantage of it, and now the government wants to take it away. Well, that's going to destroy his sales in Tesla. Well, Tesla should never have been allowed to go to the point it did. Much as I appreciate Elon and all he's doing, he was using the system. The other example, for instance, is something I wrote about the school system and the tax, the mill levy increase on it. You know, over 70% of the money that we spend on the, in this case, Cherry Creek school system and other ones, goes to the administrative function, the overhead. Only 30% goes to the student, to the teacher, to the classrooms. Talk about overhead. That's another example of local spending gone awry. I mean, it's just from the federal government all the way down to the school district. It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it really is. And in my voter's guide, I had looked at a number of these school questions, either new debt or mill levy overrides or both. And I found this very disturbing. For example, the Denver Public Schools, that bond request almost – let me think here it was a almost a billion dollars I think it was and and that passed and then a few weeks later at Denver Public Schools announces that they're going to be closing some schools and I I I feel like it was a bit of a bait and switch and I brought it up but a lot of people you know did not realize that that was gonna happen it happened also in Douglas County I think that it's a bit of a bait and switch from the school districts
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that. I don't know what their thinking is, but it sure does seem like it. I think people need to, you know, everybody remembers the teacher, the one that inspired you. Everybody has that. And I, you know, wow, what an expiring, great person. 99% of the other teachers didn't do anything. They were just there taking up space. I'm not knocking the profession of teaching. I'm just saying that we need to be more aware of how this money is being spent. And when the money is being spent on the administrative functions, then it's not going to the teachers in the classroom, and that's wrong. That's where my children, our children, our grandchildren are going to get educated. So I'm not trying to diss anybody's profession. I'm not trying to diss teaching, but I am dissing the overhead that exists in the school system.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and some of these salaries are pretty profitable for these administrators at many of these schools. And the other thing, though, back at the ranch, if you take a look at it, is our kids are not learning how to read and write and do arithmetic. So all this money is going to the school districts, and our kids are falling behind. There's something wrong with that picture, Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's so true. I mean, our national standing... On the tests internationally, we're going down. Every year we're declining. Now what are we, like the 20th in the world for education, educating our children? Used to be number one. What happened? Well, I'll tell you what happened. The Department of Education happened. I mean, everybody says, oh, well, we need a universal curriculum so everybody gets the same education. Okay, that makes sense. But then what's the reality of it? The reality is that the government now, the Department of Education, bureaucrats, now control the education system. And their incentive is not the same as our incentive. And you've got to face the facts. My incentive is that my child and my grandchildren and so on get an education. They're trained. They're taught to think, not what to think, but how to think. The bureaucrats' intention is to grow the bureaucracy, and that's all they're doing. So to me, I like the idea of school vouchers, of challenge schools, private schools, private education. Let the marketplace determine where you want to send the kid, and stop funding these ridiculous taxes for administrative functions. I think that we're just shooting ourselves in the foot every time we approve a mill levy increase.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we're letting our children down. And I think people, we do want our kids to have a good education. But a good education means that they will be able to read and write and do arithmetic. And there is a whole generation of kids that did not learn cursive writing. And just the cursive writing of the hand-eye coordination and all that is so important from a developmental standpoint. And so we need to reclaim the education for our kids. Getting rid of the Department of Education would be just fine with B.J. Davidson.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I agree with that. And we need to bring it more local, more state, more regional. My kids, one set of my kids has taken their children out of public school, and they're paying a fortune. These kids are in first grade and third grade, and they're paying a fortune to privately educate our kids, our grandkids. And the reason is that the education in the public system is terrible. And I'm talking about the best school system in Colorado, reported, reputed best school system in Colorado. These people took on the 1619 Project. They're just decimating our kids and their ability to think. So it's just an amazing turn of events here that has to be reversed.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it does have to be reversed. And regarding teachers, you and I both know those great public school teachers. And their hands, I think, in many ways have been tied. And we need to untie those hands and let them be able to teach kids the things that really need to be taught. And we need to... say no to more and more money to these school districts that are not delivering the return on investment that we would expect. So, Jay Davidson, I never know for sure where our conversations are going to go, but let's finish up again with the United Kingdom. There is at a point where governments try to extract so much tax revenue that businesses and individuals will say no more, correct?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, absolutely. I mean, why did our nation form? Remember the tea revolt? No more taxes. No more taxation without representation. I mean, this has been ongoing forever since the founding of our nation. And it's back at it again. I mean, the bureaucracy never dies. Woodrow Wilson started this game off over 100 years ago. Barack Obama blew it through the ceiling. And actually, the Bushes are not that much better. They're big government Republicans.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, people wake up. We got to find a way to elect people that are not big government, bigger government politicians. That's our avenue here. That's our constitutional right and duty to stay on these politicians. And when they start spending and spending and taxing and taxing, we need to fire them. That's our job.
SPEAKER 14 :
And we have to take that job seriously. So, Jay Davidson, always great conversations. I really appreciate it. And I'm wishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas. And, again, if people want to help with the toy drive at First American State Bank, what's the best way to do that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, drop off your toys at the bank, 8390 East Crescent Parkway in Greenwood Village. Or go online, FASBank.com. Or call the bank, and our employees will help you out, 303-694-6464. Okay. Thank you, Kim, for everything.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, absolutely. And I wish you and your whole family a very Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wait, can we say that now? Merry Christmas? Oh, okay. That's cool.
SPEAKER 14 :
So Merry Christmas, Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 10 :
Merry Christmas. Bye-bye.
SPEAKER 14 :
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So I wanted to go with those. Okay, let's see here. It says the only way to stop the spending is to get rid of the agencies completely. They will never get themselves under control and we the people will never organize enough to hold any of them accountable. It's sort of like herding cats. Thank you, Lynn. That makes a lot of sense. This question on what does DOGE mean, and it's D-O-G-E, and it's what Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are tasked with at the federal level to go through and become the Department of Government Efficiency. And it will be detailed plans for these different agencies to shrink government. So I think that we, the people, need to start DOGE, Department of Government Efficiency, which is accountable to we, the people. And I think we need to do that in Colorado, our counties, our cities, and all of these different places that we pay taxes. So, Karen, thank you for that. We're going to work on that. Let's see here. Oh, another one. Love, love, love, Jay Davidson. Okay. And Gammy said curriculum, curriculum, curriculum. That is a Marxist tool. And let's see here. A couple of other comments. Thank you, Susan. She says, I love Jay, but we're too far in debt and the small businesses and everyone really is so overburdened with all the government that we've got no choice but to rip off the regulations and taxation. Plus, the private sector really needs So there will be plenty of employment for those people who are cut from the government payroll. Okay, great. And goes on to say entire departments need to be immediately eliminated. Most of them are not the role of government and are unconstitutional. And then 100% of these grants are causing tremendous problems in local communities. In Texas, they're using grants to build sustainable energy producers like wind and solar and lithium battery storage facilities. And these are things that in the free market, people really prefer the freedom and mobility of their gas-powered cars. So you can see how all these government grants are all connected. Let's see. Next thing here. Thank you, Holly. She says, I understand what Jay is saying, but if another, well, when another administration comes in, if we only go through attrition, that they will simply open the floodgates for government hiring. So that's why we need to consider this slash and burn process, rip the Band-Aid off, shrink the size of government. If we wait through the process of attrition, it could take a decade. And by that time, Democrats will be back in power. It says when government employees are forced in the private sector, they're going to have to discover something that the rest of us are familiar with, which is a real work ethic, I think, Elon Musk. And Vivek are thinking the same thing, a much smaller government. So it's going to be interesting to see how all this transpires. Let me just see if there's anything else here that we needed to talk about. So So a couple of things. As we are moving into 2025, and I talked with the girls about it last night, our Colorado 2024 project, it is amazing what all of you have done as far as raising the money, contributing for these two lawsuits that are in the back and forth ping pong legal way that it works. I'm not real familiar with it. I'm learning on all this. I had hoped that we'd get these lawsuits filed and we'd have immediate decisions. That's not the way it works. But we got these lawsuits filed. The one with United Sovereign Americans was filed in September. And the premise on that lawsuit is, is that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress for our elections. It's a civil rights issue. And we're one of nine states where United Sovereign Americans filed suit. And Colorado is in that mix because of all of you and the money that we raised for the legal action on that. The other lawsuit is through Peter Bernager and Wisconsin Center for Election Justice. And the basis for that case is that our voter rolls are not clean. And that was filed before the election on November 1st. And that's in its back and forth. So our two things, three things that right now we're going to focus on in 2025. I'm renaming it our Colorado 2024 project, Reclaim Colorado 2025. One will be a lawsuit in light of these bios passwords, a security breach, and two, the fraudulent ballots that were counted in Mesa County, that we need a hand recount and audit of our elections. And then next, to propose legislation to fix things that are legal in Colorado but are not right. An example is 15-year-olds can pre-register to vote, and the minute they turn 18, then a ballot will be generated. And it'll go to the address that they registered to vote at. And how many 15-year-olds, if they move, are going to go change their registration? And so we want to work on that legislation. And then our DOGE Colorado project, Department of Government Efficiency. So our goal will be to... to shrink government. And so we've got a lot to do. And now's the time to do it when I say at the beginning of the show that you were made for this moment. I'm not kidding. We all were made for this moment in history. And it's a very exciting time. Our quote for the end of the show is from Henry Hazlitt. And he said this, when Alexander the Great visited the philosopher Diogenes, and asked whether he could do anything for him, Diogenes is said to have replied, yes, stand a little less between me and the sun. It is what every citizen is entitled to ask of his government. So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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The rejection of truth and getting involved with the cosmic system always leads to a frantic search for happiness. “Lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God” (2 Tim 3:4). Unhappy people take their unhappiness wherever they go. The frantic search for happiness leads to Operation Boomerang. When you walk away from the plan of God and go down the “my way highway,” seeking fulfillment from pleasure, people, or circumstances, your misery will only intensify. When you put things in your soul that don’t belong there, you develop scar tissue, which hardens your soul. “He who hardens his heart shall fall into mischief” (Prov 28:14). Can you reverse course? Yes! “Call unto Me, and I will show you great and wonderful things” (Jer 33:3). Use rebound (1 John 1:9), stay in fellowship, and get under the ministry of a well-qualified pastor. Replace human viewpoint thinking with a divine viewpoint.
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