Joey Hudson and callers engage in a spirited conversation about the implications of major retail closures, like Walgreens shutting down many of its locations, and how the Biden-Harris economy is impacting businesses nationwide. The episode also dives deep into the contentious immigration policies emerging in cities like Frederick, Maryland, where local government decisions are creating new debates about federal law and the protection of undocumented residents. With insightful contributions from listeners on how America should handle international hostage situations and the role of deterrence, it's a packed episode that brings forth diverse opinions and perspectives.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studio, sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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President-elect Donald Trump has issued an ultimatum to Hamas saying that if they do not release the hostages taken on October 7th, 2023, by the time he is sworn in on January 20th, there's going to be hell to pay. Also, Senator Joe Manchin suggesting to President Joe Biden that maybe he should consider also pardoning President-elect Donald Trump. We got some details on Senator Manchin's suggestion there. The mayor of Frederick, Maryland, Michael O'Connor, he's a Democrat. He set off a firestorm by proposing a taxpayer-funded legal advocacy group that would defend illegals in our country against the new Trump administration guidelines. Many citizens of Frederick, Maryland, aren't quite sure why their taxpayer dollars should be spent defending people who shouldn't be in our country to begin with. And should fans at college football games be allowed on the field after the game? There were a number of altercations this past weekend in some of the state rivalry games in which fights and altercations broke out because of the opposing teams wanting to plant a team flag in the middle of the field. Some colleges were even fined by their respective conferences. We're going to dive into all this, plus your phone calls. 800-655-MIKE. 1-800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. You can call. Tracy will put you in queue. We'll talk as time permits. You can also send me a quick message on the MyPillow text line. And you can email me directly, joey at joeyhudson.com. So where do you want to start? There's a lot to talk about today. Here's the headlines making the rounds as Senator Joe Manchin The retiring moderate from West Virginia dropped a bombshell yesterday when he called on President Joe Biden to also issue a pardon to President-elect Donald Trump. Now, I'm not sure Biden saw that one coming. Manchin is saying that Biden should wipe the slate clean for Trump as well. who, of course, will be back in office come January 20th. In cut number eight, Manchin explains why he believes that Joe Biden should also consider this pardon as well.
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As a father, I don't know of a father that wouldn't have done the same thing. What I would have done differently, my recommendation as a counselor would have been, Why don't you go ahead and pardon Donald Trump for all his charges and make it, you know, it had gone down a lot more balanced, if you will. I'm just saying, wipe them out.
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What do you think this does for his legacy?
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I don't know. From that standpoint, it makes it difficult.
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Of course it makes it difficult. Still a lot of talk about this pardon that came down Sunday evening. from Joe Biden. And again, I don't know that it was a big surprise. I think some people still were just taken aback by the idea that Joe Biden, over the past months, has said he would not pardon his son, that he would let the justice system take care of it itself, go through the process, but yet in the final hour, he does so. Senator Manchin is pointing out The hypocrisy of that. A lot of other Democrats as well are still scratching their head over this move by Biden on Sunday. And more details of how it came about. You know, a lot of the Democrats, I think they're upset about this, not necessarily because Joe Biden pardoned his son. But the fact that this opens the door to what President Donald Trump might do, particularly with the January 6th defendants, many of whom are still in prison. How can they object to President Trump also pardoning these folks after Joe Biden took this action with his son? Trump has been battling a mountain of politically motivated charges of his own. And when Joe Biden and now his staff, by the way, I said to you yesterday and we played a quick snippet of that. We'll we'll share it with you a little bit later in today's show. I'm just dying to see. how Corrine Jean-Pierre responds when she's back in the White House press room and can really be asked questions about this. Now, some reporters traveling with the president yesterday on Air Force One asked Corrine Jean-Pierre about this. And she has suddenly changed her whole attitude about this. I was curious as to how she was going to respond because she sort of is out on a limb here. She's been the one out front defending Joe Biden and saying over and over again that he would not pardon his son, Hunter Biden. After he did so on Sunday, though, she had to come up with a story. Well, her key word here or term is – or talking points is that this is political war, that it's okay now. It's all right that Joe Biden lied to us over these past few months, and it's okay that she lied to us as well because it's all been unfair because of the political process, because of their Justice Department – coming back and using the president's son in an unfair way. It's all political. I thought it was pretty brilliant the way she pivoted so quickly. 800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. We've got a lot to cover today. We have a lot of response. from various people, including Democrats and some of the president's main supporters, who aren't quite understanding how he could so quickly change his mind. I think the point is here, and there's evidence, that he's always intended to do this, that it took the first lady, Jill Biden, it took her to kind of encourage him a bit, but that maybe he was planning to do this all along. He just wasn't quite sure of the timing. Well, he answered that question on Sunday. Hope you're enjoying the conversation on this Tuesday. And it is Giving Tuesday. We're going to need your support of our Angel Tree campaign. I'll give you those details coming up next on the Mike Gallagher Show. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike today.
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More troubling news in the retail sector as Walgreens, one of the nation's largest pharmacy chains, announced plans to close over 1,200 stores over the next few years. Walgreens operates about 8,500 locations nationwide. They are struggling with significant losses, including a $3 billion loss in this final quarter of 2024. CEO Tim Wentworth said earlier this year that changes are imminent. for underperforming locations, which account for nearly 25% of the chain's stores. By the end of the fiscal year, Walgreens will have already closed 500 stores, and they expect to close another 1,000 or close to 1,000 stores in the coming years. No word on where these locations will be. This news adds Walgreens to the growing list of major retailers who are scaling back on their physical locations, like GameStop, Sears. Their competitor, CVS, and even Walmart, closing some stores in certain locations. Just another example of how this Biden-Harris economy has crippled a lot of retailers around the country. And it's going to take a few years of the Trump administration Trump policies to turn these things around. The problem, though, is some of the damage has already been done, and it'll be tough to recover. So you may not have a Walgreens on every corner like we do today. Many of you commenting on the MyPillow text line, yours is welcome, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Your phone calls are welcome as well. Texter says, when leaders like Joe Biden Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and they say, and some Republicans, they call such a foul stench that reaches the high heavens because of their lies. Texter says, come on, Joey. We all know that the dirtbag hunter got all freaked out as the sentencing got near and put the squeeze on daddy for a pardon, or he's going to start dropping dimes and take everybody down with him. I do believe that probably plays a part, don't you? that Joe Biden wanted to try to sort of clear the air and protect himself to keep his son quiet. He didn't want little Hunter talking. Matt Vespa, writing on townhall.com, wrote, Biden lied. Liberals know that they can't say anything if when Trump pardons the January 6th defendants. And that, too, might be why liberals are so apoplectic right now. They're just wrong about everything. That's a given. But they should have been... should have seen this coming. Even the most apolitical person knows a president is going to pardon his son who is facing jail. Liberals can't say anything about gun control and any potential pardons of President Donald Trump. Biden's pardon of his son even has some of his biggest supporters. still kind of scratching their head. For example, Representative Dan Goldman, a Democrat from New York, had to try to explain his previous comments when CNN played back in cut number seven, played back some of his comments in the past about why Joe Biden would not pardon his son. Cut number seven.
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In July of 2023, just after that plea deal fell through, this is what you said. I want to watch.
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Do you think a pardon for his son would be a mistake? Yes. And I don't think there's any chance that President Biden is going to do that, unlike his predecessor, who pardoned all of his friends and anyone who had any access to him. And I think you see that in this case where he kept on and Merrick Garland kept on a Trump appointed U.S. attorney to investigate the president's son. If there is not an indication of the independence of the Department of Justice beyond that, I don't know what what we could look for.
SPEAKER 13 :
What does that feel like, watching yourself back then, reassuring people that Biden was not going to issue a pardon for his son?
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Yeah, and I think that if that plea agreement and that plea deal had gone through, there would be no pardon. That was a satisfactory outcome.
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It had already fallen through.
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Uh-oh. Sorry? Awkward.
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When you reacted, this was when the deal had fallen through.
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Wow. He didn't quite know what to say. He was without words when she pointed out that, you know, hey, it had nothing to do with the deal falling through because you said this after the deal had fallen through. Even comedian Jon Stewart says the whole deal is a bit fishy in cut number four.
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Democrats have a moral perch from which they can judge without shame, hypocrisy, or nuance.
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Breaking news. President Biden has issued a pardon for his son, Hunter Biden. Mother*******!
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We were so close. But you know what? That's fine. It's good. It's right. It's his right. An 82 year old man doesn't want to spend the rest of his life visiting his son in prison. Republicans can't wait. I'm sure the pardon is a narrowly written, precisely drawn farewell note of compassion for a loved one.
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The pardon sweeping covering offenses that Hunter Biden, quote, has committed or may have committed or taken part in over the past 11 years.
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11 years is a very specific and not rounded amount of time. So, Hunter, I'll give you a pardon. A few years, five years, 10 years. It needs to be 11.
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And if you would be so kind, make sure this upcoming New Year's Eve is also covered.
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Wow. That's, you know, when the comedians can't explain it. You know that it's unexplainable, right? Some of the Democrat lawmakers still questioning this. Representative Greg Stanton, he's a Democrat from Arizona, dismissed Biden's claim that his son was being targeted for political reasons. Writing on X, he said this wasn't a politically motivated prosecution. Hunter committed felonies and was convicted by a jury of his peers. Colorado Democrat Governor Jared Polis said the pardon sets a bad precedent that could be abused by later presidents. And that's what they're more afraid of than anything. They're afraid that Joe Biden has opened the door for Donald Trump. The governor from Colorado, who's been floated as a possible 2028 presidential contender, insisted that the move will sadly tarnish Joe Biden's reputation. Polis wrote, when you become president, your role is paterfamilias of the nation. Hunter brought the legal trouble he faced on himself, and one can sympathize with his struggles while also acknowledging that no one is above the law, not a president and not a president's son. Representative Marie Perez, a Democrat from Washington, fumed that Hunter was gifted special treatment. saying President Biden's pardon of his son confirms a common belief I hear in southwest Washington that well-connected people are often gifted special treatment by a two-tier justice system. She added the president made the wrong decision. No family should be above the law. But the Biden family has always been above the law. The Biden family has always thought the rules did not apply to them. Joe Biden has taught his son, Hunter Biden, that you can do things and not have to be responsible for your actions. He has enabled Hunter Biden's bad behavior for many, many years now. And what's next? I mean, what's Hunter Biden going to do next? I mean, think about this for a minute. And I read this yesterday yesterday. It was questioning Joe Biden and how he has treated Hunter Biden and has made excuses for Hunter Biden's bad behavior for years now. How a vice president, when Joe Biden was Barack Obama's vice president, how he would send his crackhead son. Because it's a known fact that Hunter Biden was struggling with his addictions while his dad was vice president. And he sent his son to China. He sent his son to negotiate with Ukraine. Ukraine, Burisma was paying Hunter a million dollars a year to sit on their board. Joe Biden knew the delicacies of this and still... and still promoted his son, still allowed his son to sell access to his father, knowing the condition that Hunter Biden was in, knowing that he was struggling with addiction. 800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike today. Light on the ground. Children with frost in their hair.
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Thank you. What's on your mind today, Will? I was talking about President Trump's comment. No one should be allowed to take Americans hostage. I don't care who they are or where they are. It's time we got a president that stood up for America and quit sitting on his little behind in his diaper and crying to everybody else about stuff. We finally got somebody that's going to stand up to these people and put a stop to it.
SPEAKER 18 :
So you're willing to send troops, if that's necessary, to free these hostages?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't think it'll come to that, but we have too many missiles and drones that we could target key points of interest that would pretty much shut Hamas down.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate your call, Will. And, hey, I respect your opinion. You're in Asheville, North Carolina. How are things in Asheville?
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It is slick in places. We have places maybe an inch of snow.
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Yep. I couldn't believe, of course, I live in upstate South Carolina, I couldn't believe when I got up this morning the weather forecast that you guys were having snow and some of the schools were either delayed or closed. So, hey, have a great day. Appreciate your call, Will. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Wes is in Six Mile. Welcome, Wes. Thank you. I appreciate that. Appreciate you taking my call. Sure thing.
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What's on your mind? I just want to say that, uh, it's not about protecting the lives of the hostages right now. It's about protecting future hostages. Yeah. If you make, if you make a strong impression, if you do what it takes, uh, people are not willing to mess with a buzzsaw when they know that it's going to come and get them.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Yeah. It really is. It does have a lot to do with deterrence, doesn't it?
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It does indeed. I've spent my entire life, uh, protecting. I've, uh, Been in the military. I've contracted. This is about the future lives. If people know what you're willing to do, then, you know, they're not going to take advantage of you.
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Yeah. Yeah, you know, I think there's a lot of discussion, and I tend to agree with the idea that if Donald Trump were president now, there would have never been an attack on Israel, and there wouldn't be any hostages.
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That's why we've got to make a strong impression now, for now and for the future. That's just my opinion.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep. Hey, Wes, appreciate you calling. Appreciate you listening, I'm assuming, on 98.9 WORD in the upstate?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yes, indeed. I listen to you. I've listened to you for years.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I appreciate that. Have a blessed day, Wes. 800-655-6453, one line open. Let's go to Indiana, Hammond, Indiana. Mike, you're on the Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, Joe, thanks for taking my call. Sure thing. Yeah, we need to do the complete opposite of whatever Joe Biden has been doing. We've got to put the world on notice that it's not tolerated. You can't take American hostages. Now, they may be killed in the process, but you've got to hit them hard and heavy, leading from the basement to capitulation and appeasement. It hasn't worked. Look around the world. Joe Biden has closed 11 embassies of ours around the world in his administration. That's unforgivable. I don't understand how it's happening like this.
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Yeah, it really is. Just as Wes was saying a minute ago, it's more about deterrence than anything. It's sending a statement to the world, but particularly to Hamas, this group of thugs, that we're not going to tolerate this. And, you know, you may have dealt with Joe Biden and he may have let this happen. Donald Trump's not going to.
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And, Joe, I think you have to go after Iran. I'll be honest with you. Because they're allowing all this to happen. I mean, in one way or another, you've got to make Iran pay a price for all this.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep. And I think that if, in fact... Trump does order some type of military response, you're probably doing that knowing that we're going to get involved with Iran because I don't think Iran's going to sit back. There's going to be conflict on both sides there, and so we have to be ready for that.
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Yeah, that's why I say you've got to keep Iran as your primary target on that.
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Yep, yep, exactly. Hey, appreciate your phone call. 800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. Your comments are welcome on the MyPillow text line as well. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike Gallagher today.
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Continuing the Mike Gallagher show on the MyPillow text line, getting a lot of text, by the way, on this issue with college football and storming the field and planting your team flag. A texter says they should have to write 1,000 times on the chalkboard, I will not plant my flag on the opposing team's field. That and a $100,000 fine in some cases, I guess. Interesting that Ohio State and Michigan were fined $100,000. North Carolina and North Carolina State were fined $25,000. I guess maybe the ACC has different rules. From 96 South Carolina, James is on the line. Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Yes, thank you both. Yeah, I think it all started in the locker room. They want to be young men. They want everybody to present them like young men. Both teams, stop this. They show the people how to game, and we can be gentlemen. That's the way I feel about it.
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Yep. Well, hey, good point, James. Appreciate your phone call. 800-655-6453. You know, someone made the point. Let's see if I can find it here. Texter says, America plants a flag when they win a battle. Those games were a battle, and the winning team were the conquerors. I love they were putting their flag up for the win. You agree? Is it okay to plant a flag on your opposing team's home field? Appreciate your comments. The mayor of Frederick, Maryland, Michael O'Connor is his name. He's a Democrat. He set off a firestorm this week when he proposed a taxpayer-funded legal advocacy program to defend illegals. He's getting ready for the new Trump administration. And instead of prioritizing law-abiding citizens, Mayor O'Connor wants Frederick taxpayers to foot the bill to help these immigrants fight federal immigration laws. Now think about that for a minute. And think about if you lived in Frederick, Maryland, how you'd feel about that. Some of these sanctuary cities are just, things are getting out of hand. They hate Donald Trump so much, and they hate the idea that he's going to close our borders, both north and south. And by the way, good news from both, with the Mexican president indicating she will cooperate after the threat of tariffs, and the Canadian prime minister was at Mar-a-Lago over the Thanksgiving weekend, he too suggesting that he will cooperate and work together to try to solve this problem. Now, isn't that interesting that all Donald Trump has to do is threaten the use of tariffs and have a conversation? And both of these countries are now saying, hey, we'll work with you. We'll try to stop this. This is not good for either of us. You think Joe Biden could have had that same conversation? It's just proof that Biden did not want to close our borders. Joe Biden wanted our borders to be open. Back to Frederick, Maryland. It's the second largest city in the state of Maryland. It has a population of around 86,000, just between Washington, D.C., and Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Mayor O'Connor, in justifying his proposal, says that it's patriotic, and he invoked his own family's immigration history. Evidently, his parents came over to America from another country. He also referenced Vice President Kamala Harris's remarks about being organized, energized, and engaged. The mayor claims that this isn't about politics, but protecting the values of Frederick, he said. He says it's about ensuring that immigrants feel safe, they feel respected, and they feel protected. But at what cost? The plan doesn't just sidestep federal law, which it does. It just outright challenges it. I don't understand why these local officials don't recognize the fact that they're violating a federal law. And we have that law in place for a reason. Sheriff Chuck Jenkins... is a defender of the law. He's not mincing words. He told Fox News that this plan is not only inappropriate, but it's unfair to taxpayers. And cut number 11, he says that city's resources should not be diverted from public safety for funds like this. Cut number 11.
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I think it's unfair to the taxpayer. And there's already enough advocacy groups out there to provide legal counsel for people in removal proceedings. What the mayor said in his statement, he is going to try and protect. The non-citizen residents of Frederick City, by not working with ICE, not cooperating with ICE, who is going to come in and they're going to make arrests. He doesn't have the right to do that. It's not his business to do that. ICE has the authority and they will come into this jurisdiction, come into the city and pick up the targets they deem necessary to pick up. To me, he's invited more problems potentially by saying, we're going to protect you in Frederick City. We're not going to cooperate. So that could invite, you know, other criminal elements, including criminal gangs that may think they're safe here by the mayor's comments. The quicker we address a problem, the quicker we clean up the cities, get the criminals off the streets, the criminal gangs, people in this country who are convicted of violent crimes in other countries. There's probably two, two and a half million people that are going to be the initial targets. All criminals. I am 100% supportive from the standpoint I want to do everything I can to keep my county safe, my citizens safe, reduce crime, remove a criminal element, and let's clean this country up. So I'm 100% supportive of President Trump and his policy.
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I'm predicting there's going to be a clash. between this law and order sheriff and this flaming liberal mayor. What do you think? The sheriff predicts that this move, as he said, could potentially invite illegals to come to their city, thinking they're going to be protected, as the mayor has said. Again, I just don't get it. I don't get why a local official like this would want illegals in his city using resources of the city and defying federal law. Can you explain that to me? 800-655-6453 is the My Fellow text line. Your calls are welcome as well. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike Gallagher.
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Allowing your sinful nature to control you will make you a Christian casualty. Reversionism is a process of reverting back to your old habits and getting into the temptations of your sinful nature and yielding to those temptations. “Be sober, be vigilant, because Satan seeks to neutralize and destroy you” (1 Pet 5:8) “Do not let the devil get an advantage over you” (2 Cor 2:11). You have three enemies that will attempt to discourage and defeat you: the world, the flesh, and the devil. That’s why you need to be vigilant and learn God’s Word to develop a FLOT line in your soul. If you arm yourself with God’s plan and learn and apply God’s Word, you will not be a Christian casualty. You need to have truth in your soul and think divine viewpoint.
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Christian Casualties
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 601 aired on March 3, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes I would like to ask you to please give me a hearing. Stay with me, 30 minutes is all it
will be. Just a few minutes of motivation, some inspiration, some education, and we do this
without any type of manipulation because we don't try to manipulate people. We’re not trying to
con anyone. We’re not soliciting finances. We’re not selling memberships. It is simply a show
about giving you accurate information that I hope will verify and identify God's plan for you. If
this is true, then you can orient and adjust to the plan should you desire to do so. My job is
always to get it accurate, not to speculate, not to give human speculation but divine revelation
from the Scripture, the Word of God, the canon of Scripture. Thank you for listening. Thank you
for all of those who write. I love hearing from you. It's awesome when I get letters or emails. You
can always do this by the way by going to the website or you can just write us a letter. Don't send
money. We’re not asking for money but if you would like to write in regard to what you are
learning or how the Lord is blessing you, we would love to hear it from you. I really love when
people tell me that for the first time in their life they’re beginning to grow spiritually, they’re
looking for a qualified pastor that can teach them the Bible. Sometimes people write and ask, “Is
there a pastor in my town?” I don't always know but I can refer them to friends of mine who are
great pastors who have all of their material available on MP3 or DVD and it's all free, they don't
charge anything, and books all free. I know and have great confidence, great trust in these men
and we can refer you to them. Thank you for listening. Thank you for encouraging me by
sending letters and notes. It’s always great to hear from you. I want to talk to you today about
Christian casualties. Many of you have children or grandchildren or maybe a spouse that at one
time was in fact interested in God and living for the Lord. Now this seems to have gone away.
They’re casualties, they've gone down the My Way Highway. They failed to learn and execute
God's plan and the Bible actually calls these sort of people, in Proverbs 1:1-5, stupid. They’re
naïve, they’ve walked away from the great gift God gives on direction to live your life and how
to have a wonderful life. The Bible is clear about this, even beginning as a child. These things are
written, Ephesians 6:1-3 is clear about it,
“Children, obey your parents. Honor your father and
mother so you can have a long wonderful life.”
Yet, by rebelling against authority in the home
and rebelling against authority in life, people shorten their lives every day. They don't have to if
they would just listen to the plan of God but some people are not going to do this.
Some people
are so arrogant that they're going to allow their sin nature, their sin infused human nature,
to control them.
Remember we got this sin nature from Adam. Romans 5:12 says,
“For by one
man sin came into the world, and death by sin and now death has passed on all for all have
sinned.” “The wages of sin is death”
(Romans 6:23). We are born spiritually dead the minute
Adam's original sin is imputed to us. Thus John 3:7 says we have to be born again. If we want to
have fellowship with God, the human spirit that's dead by associating with Adam's original sin
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has to be born again. This occurs in John 3:16 where it clearly says,
“God so loved the world
that He gave His only begotten Son so that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have
everlasting life.”
Being born again is receiving Christ as your Savior and this is why 2
Corinthians 5:21 says,
“He that knew no sin was made sin for us so that we could be made the
righteousness of God through Him.”
Having a new life in Christ is an amazing thing.
It
happened to me when I was 22 years old. I finally heard the good news. I finally heard that I
could begin my life again. I finally heard that Jesus Christ had paid for my sin and I could have
eternal life with Him. Not that I went around looking for this, I never really paid much attention
to God but when I heard it that night, it made clear sense. That night God the Holy Spirit pulled
back the window shades of my soul and let me see myself as I really was. I knew I was a sinner. I
knew I would go to hell if I died. I didn't want to, I wanted to have eternal life with God. I never
was angry at God. I just always ignored God. That's the night my life changed. We all sin. We all
fail. I compare it to a football game. No one is perfect. Everybody gets blocked, knocked down,
fumbles the ball, whatever but you recover. You get up and you get back in the game.
We have
three enemies that attempt to defeat us: the world, the flesh, and the devil.
These three
enemies are always out to get us. So we have to remember God's plan in our life.
If we want
to talk about a Christian casualty, let's talk about what happens when a person is captured by
their own arrogance and gets into what I call perpetual carnality. Remember this, let’s get this
straight. If you are in fellowship with God, you are spiritual. If you are out of fellowship with
God, you are carnal. Sin gets you out of fellowship with God. If you rebound, problem-solving
device #1, and confess your sin to God, then you get back in fellowship or back into a spiritual
relationship with God. Spirituality is not maturity. Billy Graham cannot be any more spiritual
than you or me but he may be more mature. Same thing for your pastor.
Spirituality is based on
the filling of the Holy Spirit and maturity is based on the content and the execution of the
Word of God in your life.
Carnality can be temporary, for an hour, it can be perpetual where
you keep going back and back and back, or it can be permanent where you get out of fellowship
with God and you just stay there. You don't recover. Any believer who fails to follow orders and
does not refrain from letting the sin nature control his life is going to be in serious trouble with
God. What are some of the orders? Let me give them to you. I learned this from a friend of mine
who has a military background, the commander's intent, listen to God's intent. 1 Peter 5:8,
“Be
sober, be vigilant, because Satan seeks to neutralize and destroy you.”
In 2 Corinthians 2:11 is
another command in regard to Satan.
“Do not let the devil get an advantage over you.”
Then in
Ephesians 4:27, another command,
“Do not give place to the devil.”
We have three commands I
can identify right there to follow orders. Now, we’re talking about the devil. He's not
omnipresent. He's not like God. God is in Memphis and in Atlanta at the same time, Satan is not.
He's a created being and can only be one place at one time. We’re talking about Satan, we’re
talking about his plan, his logic and the way that he seeks to divert Christians by distracting them
and discouraging them. As far as Lucifer himself messing around with you or me, since he can
only be in one place at one time, I'm sure he has much bigger targets to work on. We know there
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are fallen angels and they are called demons. We know that they can tempt us, test us, and try us
but we know 1 John 4:4 says,
“Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world.”
We are
to be smart in regard to Satan's plan. This is why Paul told us to
“Put on the armor of God so we
can stand against the strategy of the devil”
(Ephesians 6:11). If we arm ourselves with God's
plan, if we learn God's Word, we do not have to wind up a Christian casualty.
Many
Christian casualties are those people who do not learn God's Word. They don't learn the problem-
solving devices. They don't learn to think under the terms of divine viewpoint. They get full of
self-pity. They get full of arrogance and then self-destruct and go off down the My Way
Highway. In regard to the lure of the world there are some other orders here. For example in 1
Corinthians 1:20,
“The wisdom of this world is foolishness,”
don't buy into it. In Romans 12:2,
“Don't be conformed to this world,”
don't fall into this trap. In 1 John 2:15,
“Do not love the
world.”
In regard to your flesh, the Bible is clear about this, here's the commander's intent.
Galatians 5:17,
“The flesh wars against the Spirit, the Spirit wars against the flesh.”
In Romans
13:14,
“Make no provision for the flesh.”
In Mark 7:20,
“That which comes out of the heart of
man will defile him.”
In 1 Timothy 2:22,
“Flee youthful lust.”
In 1 Peter 2:11,
“Abstain from
fleshly lust.”
We have the world, we have the flesh, and we have the devil. Most of us don't
get past the lure of the world or the temptations of the flesh. This is normally what gets
Christians, nails them, gets them out of fellowship, and gets them into post-salvation sins.
See, once a Christian, maybe our children or our friends, when they move into perpetual
carnality, which means they're constantly getting out of fellowship, they begin a perilous slide
down the slope of reversionism. Maybe this is a word you haven't heard me use before. This may
explain what happened to someone you love or maybe your son or daughter. Maybe at one time
they had a close relationship with the Lord but that's gone away, no more spiritual interest. This
is called reversionism. It's when we turn the other way and then once we go the other way, once
we make this u-turn, we’re still a child of God but we can't be identified as such. No one can
really tell it because they can't distinguish the believer out of fellowship with God in
reversionism from the unbeliever who's never known God. Reversionism is simply the act of
reverting back to the former state, going back to your former habits, going back to your former
beliefs and the practice of post-salvation sins permanently or perpetually. It's a believer like you
or me who reverses his priorities, has the wrong affections, has the wrong attitude. This believer
goes down the My Way Highway. Often this reversionism is fueled by a change in status in life
such as falling in love or getting married, something that changes priorities and beliefs to
appease the one that you love, the one you're occupied with. Nothing can distract a believer who
is growing any faster than a hot love affair. You get into a hot love affair and God is forgotten.
The objective of your affection becomes the newfound lover and this person doesn't believe like
you believe or doesn't love God like you love God. I have a good close friend who just recently
married and I'm proud to say that the person he married, the lady that he married, he was able to
introduce her to having a growing relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ through consistent
study of God's Word and they do this together. Under the ministry of their pastor they study
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together daily and what a wonderful life to be a corporate witness for Jesus Christ in the devil's
world. If you fall in love with someone that doesn't believe like you, someone who doesn't care
for the Word of God like you, the end result will be distraction. Nothing can distract a believer
like this. When your sin nature gets so fired up with lust that you fail to neutralize the activities
of the sin nature, you don't rebound, you don't confess your sin, then you get into what I call a
frantic search for happiness. You’re trying to find happiness in all the wrong places. You're
thinking that love will make you happy, that sex will make you happy, that marriage will make
you happy. It is not true.
Unhappy people take their unhappiness with them wherever they
go.
Your spiritual life begins to be totally ignored. You may still go to church sometimes but it
just becomes ritual with no reality to it. Your sin nature gets so fired up that you fail to neutralize
the activities of your sin nature. This reversionism that I'm talking about is related to failures in
the Christian life which result in failure to execute the protocol plan of God. Down, down, down
you go into Christian degeneracy and let me make this clear. I'm not just talking about immoral
degeneracy. There's also a moral degenerate. The moral degenerate is the self-righteous, religious
man who will kill you in the name of God and think he's doing God a favor. The immoral person
is the lustful person. If you want to find him, go to the bar, go to the honky-tonk, there he is. He's
chasing immorality but the moral self-righteous one such as the Pharisees, the scribes, the
Sadducees that our Lord had to deal with, they were the killers. When we don't rebound our
personal sins, we begin to sink into subnormal categories of personal sin. There is no spiritual
growth. We become completely negative to any sort of Bible teaching and we stall out. We get
carnal. We get reversionistic and down we go. We’re still a child of God. We’re still saved. We’re
still going to heaven but I'm telling you, your time on earth could be shortened.
Reversionism is
a process, it’s not one single act. It’s the process of reverting back to your old habits and
getting into the temptations of the sin nature and yielding to these temptations.
If you fail to
rebound sin, but you in fact justify your sin, then you will tell yourself it's okay to follow these
sinful patterns in your life. When you do this you set up a perpetual carnality because you're
going to allow your sin nature to always dominate your thinking. This will short-out the protocol
plan of God in your life and there will be no spiritual growth. If your sin nature is unchecked by
rebound, then you will sink into subnormal categories of personal sin. This can include a lot of
different things. Since there's no spiritual growth in your life, there's no ability for you to think
clearly. All you're doing is living by human viewpoint and arrogance sets in. Self-justification
sets in, self-deception sets in, and you begin to be totally self-absorbed with whatever it is you’re
pursuing. This is why reversionism demonstrates distraction from the spiritual life and there has
to be correction. There has to be discipline, This distraction could be apathy or indifference,
wrong priorities. You can react to a lot of different things. When you react and do not rebound,
then you force the hand of God because Hebrews 12:6 says,
“Those that He loves, He will
discipline.”
Without the absolute truth of the Word of God in your soul there is no relation
to reality. If you don’t have truth in your soul, if you're not thinking divine viewpoint, you
are irrational and you will live under the illusion of the mirror of arrogance.
Until you begin
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to think clearly, until you begin to see yourself as you really are, there can be no recovery from
sin, only a slow slide down a slippery slope of reversionisim, following the My Way Highway
until the road eventually runs out. You know this type of person, they are always going to put
wrong priorities as the key to happiness. Things like pleasure or loved ones or social life or the
details of life, they are all very important. They think these are the keys to fulfillment in life.
They can’t handle authority, they will reject the legitimate authority. They become increasingly
hypersensitive. They lose any sense of objectivity and they will eventually blame others for their
misery. As a result of this arrested spiritual development in their life, they are stalled out
spiritually. They become vulnerable to demon influence. I didn’t say demon possession, I said
demon influence, the doctrine of demons as 1 Timothy 4:1 says. Satan has a doctrine of demons.
The doctrine of demons can be found in organized religion, this is where it is. Their thinking
becomes clouded by the smokescreen that Satan throws up and they begin to believe all sorts of
garbage, anything to fill the void in their empty life because there's a spiritual vacuum. It's
interesting to watch Christians get into certain things, get into politics, get into whatever they get
into and they can spend a lot of energy, a lot of time, and a lot of money doing something that
they think God wants them to do. This inevitably is a distraction. It can be sort of jumping into
things, not taking your time to think it through, not being sure. You see, you can convince
yourself about anything and you can convince yourself that you're doing the right thing but in the
long run, when you take a step back and look at it you go, “I wasted so much time trying to do
this.” What you thought was right, what you figured was right, but in reality it didn't make any
difference at all.
If you want to spend time doing something, lift up Jesus Christ, the Son of
God. He can change the hearts and lives of people.
As long as people have a sin nature,
you're not going to change anybody.
I don't care what political system you put them under. I
don’t care what type of government you put them under, they still have the sin nature. Until they
receive Christ as Savior and learn how to let the Holy Spirit control their life, you're not going to
change their actions. There's always going to be jealousy, hostility, implacability, vindictiveness,
and you can try all you want to fix it. You won’t fix it. Only God's Word can fix it when we as
Romans 12:3 says,
“Stop thinking of yourself in terms of arrogance beyond what you should
think, but think in terms of humility as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking
from His Word.”
When this happens, then you can begin to see what God has for you. Then your
life can be fulfilled. But as long as you reject the legitimate authority, the Word of God, and
become increasingly hypersensitive, lose your objectivity, you're always going to blame other
people for your misery. You're always going to blame someone else. You're always going to point
a finger at someone else and like a friend told me one time, when you point a finger at someone
else, there are three fingers pointing back at you. Try it. Just make a fist and point a finger and
look at the three pointed right back at you. When you arrest your spiritual growth, when you stall
out spiritually, you become vulnerable to demon influence, you get clouded by the smokescreen,
you accept false doctrine as a result of rejecting the true doctrine. This is all seen, Paul talks
about this to Timothy, in 1 Timothy 4:1.
“But the Spirit says that in the latter periods of time
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[this is between the First and the Second Advent of Christ]
some believers will become apostate
from doctrine, paying attention to deceitful spirits and concentrating on doctrines of demons.”
This rejection of truth and this cosmic involvement with the satanic doctrine will lead you into a
frantic search for happiness where 2 Timothy 3:4 says,
“They are lovers of pleasure rather than
lovers of God.”
Success, money, friends, sex, material things, they can all be an empty life.
These are the ways you try to fill up your life. You will spend money you don't have to buy
things you don't need to impress people that you don't even like, it's pitiful. If you're not happy
with what you have now, you're not going to be happy or content with what you might have in
the future because unhappy people, as I said earlier, take their unhappiness with them wherever
they go.
If you don't have the capacity to love and enjoy life now, then you don't have any
contentment in your life. Without contentment, there is no capacity because your happiness
doesn't have anything to do with people or circumstances.
It is not what you have or you
don't have. It's what Luke 11:28 says,
“Happiness belongs to those people who hear My Father's
Word and who keep it.”
The pastor's job is to instruct us. The Holy Spirit's job is to make it clear.
We are to assimilate the information and apply the information.
Hearing and keeping the Word
of God is the key to happiness in your life.
This is why Hebrews 13:5 says,
“Let your lifestyle
be free from the love of money, be content with what you have, for He Himself has said, ‘I will
never leave you. I will never forsake you.’”
The reversionist may walk away from God but God
will just love him from behind. It's never too late to confess your sin. It's never too late to get
back in fellowship but it's our own arrogance that keeps us from doing this. We don't like to
admit we are wrong. We don't like to admit we fail, but until we do this, we cannot grow up
spiritually and we cannot untangle ourselves from the mess that we created by getting involved
in the affairs of the world. We are called to a different life. It's a unique life. It's a spiritual life.
It's a supernatural life and it's a life that Satan will oppose with all that he has. I hope you're
listening. I hope you're paying attention and I hope you will continue to listen. If you have any
questions, feel free to contact me through the website. Until next Sunday thank you for listening
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In this thought-provoking episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush, along with his guests, sheds light on the critical missteps of the Colorado GOP. The discussion delves into the party's failure to understand the varied political landscape of Colorado, emphasizing the need to adapt their candidate strategies to fit different districts. The conversation also traverses the realm of automotive marketing failures, drawing parallels between political and corporate blunders that arise from ignoring market demands.
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. We left that last hour talking about our own Colorado GOP and the fact that they really don't, and I mean this sincerely, they really don't understand the market in Colorado. In other words, they don't understand what type of candidates we really need to run in certain areas. And by the way, it varies. This is where I think... they really do get it wrong because you may have one area, Andy, where you could run a really, really strong, hardcore, quote-unquote principled Republican and be just fine in that district and you could win all day long with no problem. In fact, that's exactly what you need in that district to win because a moderate may very well lose in that particular arena. And I understand that. On the same token, we've got some districts where, you know, as much as it pains to say this – You may have to run a little bit more, quote unquote, squishy middle of the road. You know, and I know this is what they would call them, you know, rhino ish type Republican, because you're probably not going to win in that particular area with that hardcore conservative. I just mentioned on the same token at the end of the day, if I can get personally, if I can get that middle of the road conservative. to at least go down to either Washington or go down to the Capitol building here in Colorado or to D.C. and at least, Andy, vote 8 out of 10 times with me in that particular area, I'll take that. Oh, it's fantastic. That's a win for me.
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The Democrats going to vote 10 out of 10 against you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. If I can get eight out of 10 with me, I'm OK with that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And by the way, it doesn't matter if it's a quote unquote moderate Democrat. They'll still vote 10 out of 10 because they're moderate Democrats.
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Right. There are no moderate Democrats. And by the way, before you know, the mansions of the world are still going to at least nine out of 10 times. They're going to they're going to vote Democrat. Right. That one out of 10 that they may vote for something on our side. But that's it.
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And they're rare that they're that good.
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It's very rare.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I know you've got a great analogy coming up here in a moment. But before you get to that, I really think we also make the mistake the other way. Sometimes when we have a deep red state or district, we'll put forth somebody who is too moderate, where we could have gotten somebody much better. Let me give a perfect example. Liz Cheney in Wyoming. Mitt Romney in Utah. In both of those places, we could have put forth really good MAGA, wonderful MAGA kind of people who would advance a great agenda for America, America first, and they blew it. And I look at both Utah and Wyoming and I say, guys, get it right. Now, Wyoming did, by the way. So that's good. Okay, go ahead. You got a great analogy.
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No, no. By the way, what you just said is absolutely correct. So this, again, comes back to knowing your market and what's going on in those particular districts in that state as to what's it going to take to actually win. that Andy and I are talking about, it's readily available to those at the state GOP level. It's at their fingertips. Literally, we as a party pay for that data, for that information on an annual basis. And Andy, it's at their fingertips.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they know what the market looks like in each district.
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Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
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I mean, guys, they have marketing data. And I'm not exaggerating when I say this. we have marketing data at the state level that most small businesses would yearn to get their hands on in their particular area when it comes to marketing to their customers because most small businesses don't have access to that kind of information because it costs a lot of money most small businesses don't know how their clientele votes per se on their product
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In other words, Wendy's doesn't know exactly what people want in a burger versus McDonald's and versus Burger King. We literally know the voting trends of everybody in our district.
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So let me give you an example of a... Car company, because I talked about this before I went on vacation right before Thanksgiving. It became really, really big over Thanksgiving. And I think we were probably one of the first shows to even talk about how bad they screwed up, mainly because I'm a car guy. And I took one look at the new Jaguar ad that came out and decimated it the day before I went on vacation.
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You knew that was going to be a massive loser. Absolutely awful. What did Jaguar say to their market?
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We don't care about you. All we care about is us, and we feel like we know better about what we should do with the car company than you as the customer should know.
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Yeah. I want to sell my agenda, not a car.
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That's right. I'm selling. I'm going to push my LGBTQ trans nonsense. I'm going to let my freak flag fly. I'm going to put that out there and build a car company around that and hope that you as, or by the way, I'm going to demand that you as a customer buy my car.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, how many customers can drive an agenda?
SPEAKER 03 :
Zero.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they drive a car.
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Yeah, and by the way, I predicted this, and it's coming true, and it's getting worse, by the way, with Jaguar. They just keep stumbling more and more as they go along here. Reality is this will be a death nail for them unless they reverse this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they are stubborn.
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This will not sell.
SPEAKER 08 :
They do not. Here's the thing, and you and I have often talked about this. Then we can go to John. We've often talked, John, about people not wanting to admit they've made a mistake. In business, that's a killer. Yeah.
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It's a killer in politics. It's a killer, period. Yeah. When you screw up, admit it, and then move on. Yes. Jaguar's not going to do it. The caller to GOP's not going to do it. Not with the leadership we have right now. John and Cheyenne, go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, I got to call Andy out. You are wrong on Liz Cheney as a voter. When she voted, 97% of the time, it was with the conservative agenda... Even through her last two years.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, really quick, John, I'll defend Andy because he didn't say anything about her on that. What he said was when you go to replace her in Wyoming, you can replace her with even somebody more red than she was. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And also here was the big problem, John, with her was never her voting record.
SPEAKER 03 :
It was how she how she viewed Trump.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and it's... The big problem with... Well, really quick here, John. The big problem with Liz Cheney, and I have often said, folks, her voting record is much better than you people are saying. Right. Okay, all you people who say... Excuse me, all you people who say, Rhino, Rhino, Rhino, she's evil, evil, evil. You guys don't seem to understand. She's the worst in our party, and she votes over 95% with us on the MAGA agenda.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I've often said that. The problem is she let her emotions take over when it came to Trump.
SPEAKER 03 :
Stirred the pot too much.
SPEAKER 08 :
And in her treatment of J6.
SPEAKER 03 :
Dumb.
SPEAKER 08 :
She just flat out bought into every idiotic conspiracy theory the left was putting out. And ruined her political career in the process. Right. We could do much better than that, and you guys did. You got rid of her. You got somebody better.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that's because personally, she let personal animus come in. She despised Donald Trump. From when I met her before she was originally elected in 2016... When it was primary time, and I was a cruise fan in 2016, but I asked her, I said, what do you think about Donald Trump winning all these primaries? And she was like, oh, we can have him. We can do better. That was her whole philosophy from all the way back in early 16. Yeah, it was. She never got elected.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was personal early on, and she never let it go.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the reason why is Trump came out and attacked her father first. for what senior Cheney did during the Bush administration. Right. And she didn't like that, and she took it personally. And in politics, politics is worse than being in the mob. You can't take it personal. It's just business, to quote Michael Corleone. But she took it personal, and it cost her. Her career. She had a shot at,
SPEAKER 03 :
a senate seat maybe the governorship in wyoming oh yeah she screwed up i mean literally john that's an example and this her arrow was pointed straight up yeah then this is what happens to individuals in those arenas this is what's happening inside of the colorada gop right now these people get so fixated on something that they'll give up their entire career over it and now dumb you know
SPEAKER 06 :
All she does now is go on and badmouth Trump on CNN because that's all she can do. That's about all she's got left.
SPEAKER 08 :
And she's gone beyond that. I mean, she's been campaigning. She was campaigning for numerous Democrats against numerous Republicans in 24. It was terrible.
SPEAKER 03 :
I hate to say this. Her only future is to switch sides and go to the Democrat side. But even then, it'll be choppy at best because she's still affiliated with her dad. Even the left doesn't like that. She has no future. She's done.
SPEAKER 06 :
She's screwed up. You know, she left Wyoming. Her and her whole family. went back to Virginia. The only reason she came out here was she knew she had no shot of winning in Virginia at that point, and she wanted to be in politics. So she came out here. Wyoming kind of accepted her because her father was a congressman from here before he moved up to all his other offices. And for the first four years, she did what we asked her to. She voted conservative with the party. J6 came around, and she just lost her mind.
SPEAKER 08 :
She lost her mind. And you know, John, really quick here. So often, these types like her and Romney will say... Yeah, but you're saying that if we want to stay active in the Republican Party, we have to become a bunch of trumpets, okay? We have to just mimic everything Trump says and kiss the ring constantly. And it's like, no, guys, all we're asking for you to be is reasonable. I mean, you're putting out these crazy theories on Trump that are ludicrous. He had nothing to do with inciting any kind of violence on J6, and you know it. You're lying.
SPEAKER 03 :
It really wasn't much violence anyway, so that's a whole other conversation.
SPEAKER 06 :
Agreed. And what's going to be interesting is when they, Justice and everything, start investigating the J6 committee and some of the things they did, which were kind of a little illegal. That's going to be interesting when she has to go back and testify now as a civilian. Why did you do this, that, and the other thing? Some of it's conspiracy theory, but some of it she did. Pam Bondi would eat her alive on the stand. Oh, that's going to be a little bit interesting. And so not changing the subject, but you brought her up. Does she get confirmed, Andy? Pam Bondi?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, easily.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's amazing. That's one of the easier ones, I think.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, there are still a couple that I think are going to be difficult, but Pam Bondi, no, my goodness, no.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so I think that should have been his first choice all along. Agreed. But maybe Gates was good because it brought out who in the Republican Party might fight against his nominees.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think he knew that anyway, John. I don't think he had to put that out there to find where the bad eggs are. I think he knows which people are totally with him and which ones aren't. He knows what Murkowski is.
SPEAKER 06 :
Everybody knows what she is. And how is she going to get beat? Because Alaska kept ranked choice voting. That made me mad. How did she get beat?
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. I don't know.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, really quick, just to recap. How is the Colorado GOP just like Jaguar? Because remember, it's Jaguar. I get it. But we Americans call it Jaguar. At the end of the day, Jaguar thinks that it knows what's best for its customers and is pushing an agenda on them that, frankly, Jaguar customers especially do not want. They want fast cars, exhilarating. They want the car to look sexy. You know, they want all these different things. That's what the brand has been about up until this time. And they have literally botched it, ruined it because they're not looking at their market. In fact, they're in denial of what the market is to the point that Jaguar is saying that our future will be based on all EVs. Well, we already know. I can tell you as a car guy where that's going. And once Trump gets inaugurated and takes away some of the not only the mandates, but some of the incentives when it comes to EVs, Jaguar, I predict, will be destroyed. Dead. They're already a very low production car company in the first place. They are, by the way, owned by Tata Motors, which is an Indian company who the leader, by the way, just passed away. When was that, Charlie? Two months or two months or so ago. I want to say that Mr. Tata himself passed away. And it's interesting. You now see Jaguar doing this once he passed away. Point being, they are in total denial. of what their marketplace is like and what people really want in cars, just like the Colorado GOP is in total denial of what wins elections in Colorado.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and John, for those out there who are thinking, John Rush is wrong. The Colorado GOP, they don't hate the market. They don't ignore the market. They love the market. Let me look at what are the number one and two and three things that the Colorado GOP has been stressing. Number one. The 2020 steal. Right. Okay. Every single one of their candidates that they pushed was somebody who one of their main themes is we got robbed in 2020. Okay. Does the general market. Yeah, you and I do believe there were a lot of shenanigans in 2020. But forget us. We're already. You had us at a low.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're bought in.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you had us at a low. Does the general market in Colorado want to hear about the 2020 steal?
SPEAKER 03 :
Andy, the entire United States of America, it was proven with Lake in Arizona. Reality is the entire country doesn't want to hear about it. It is the worst. It's not just Colorado. It's the entire country.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I don't care how much you agree with that, well, we got robbed in 2020. You can agree with that. I believe we very possibly did get robbed in 2020. It doesn't matter. The general market absolutely looks at that and says that is your worst issue, period. Okay, number two. The Colorado GOP is on a holy crusade against open primaries. Okay. Does the general electorate in Colorado agree with them and want them to do that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Since they voted them in, the answer is pretty easy. No.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And I guarantee you a good majority of Republicans voted against it just like you and I did, which means that the general market, the center, the unaffiliated must have voted overwhelmingly in favor of it. So once again, are you being like Jaguar? Yes, you are. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're trying to force something on your customer that they don't want.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Next, Dave Williams put out God Hates Flags.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which, by the way, had he been our candidate in CD5... Oh, they would have roasted him over that one. There would have been ads everywhere about God Hates Flags.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, because... Obviously.
SPEAKER 03 :
And they would have actually done it in a way to where they would have taken the L out because that's really what Dave meant.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they would have done a neato ad where you simply have the L. Removed slowly. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Dissolving.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dissolving.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is what Dave Williams and CD5 really thinks.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. This is a thinly veiled slur. That's what they would have said. That's right. And now.
SPEAKER 03 :
And by the way, they're not incorrect. No.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're not incorrect. That is exactly how he meant it. So let me ask you, John, the general market, not us, the peeps on the hard right. I'm talking the general market in Colorado. Is that how they feel about LGBTQ? No.
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
They look at it and say, hey, man, we don't want you men competing in women's sports.
SPEAKER 03 :
They agree with us on that. How about one step further for a lot of you hardcore Republican Christians that are on Dave's side? Even God doesn't look at it that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, live your life. You make your choices.
SPEAKER 03 :
God would say, you know what, hate the sin, but I love the sinner. So no, he wouldn't even say that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
He wouldn't say he hates flags with the L removed.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, when did Jesus and the apostles ever try to force non-Christians to live like Christians?
SPEAKER 03 :
Never.
SPEAKER 08 :
When did Jesus and the apostles ever use the power of secular government to try to make non-Christians live like Christians?
SPEAKER 03 :
Never. Never. Didn't happen, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Case closed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because it doesn't work that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Look, what we're seeing is this. The Colorado GOP is Jaguar. They're looking at the market and saying, we don't care what the market thinks.
SPEAKER 03 :
By the way, going back to the newsletter, so I didn't get a chance to do this in the last hour, to prove Andy's point even further, that they really don't understand the market in Colorado and who they're even speaking to. The Thanksgiving... Wish, I guess you could say, the happy Thanksgiving that came out of the Colorado GOP. And not that I'm against Bible verses. I love the Bible. I love Scripture. I'm a Christian. All of that. You guys all know that. Would I have put two Scripture verses in that newsletter going out to all Republicans on the mailing list in the Colorado GOP? I would not have for the very reasons Andy just stated a few moments ago.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the Republican Party is not a church.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it is not. Dave is not the pastor of the church.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, I will say this. The Republican Party is the only major party in America where Christians... Feel welcome. Yeah, are welcome. That's right. Because the Democrats will say, oh, you can come over here. Yeah, only if we completely modify our faith dramatically.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, that's the only way you're going to let us in. Otherwise, you beat us, you hound us, and... You know, if possible, you remove us. Okay. Look, the only place where we are welcome is the Republican Party, but that doesn't mean we are welcome at the exclusion of others.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and again, folks, you're talking about the Colorado GOP. This is a political party where we're doing our best to get certain politicians elected and move the football forward on our side of the aisle. Knowing all of that, that we need as many people on our side of the aisle as possible. And I'm not one to get squishy when it comes to the Word of God, to Scripture, anything along those lines. But what I'm saying is, We're also not the GOP. We're not a church. We're not a church organization. Dave is not the pastor. And no, it's not okay to put Bible verses in the newsletter going out for Thanksgiving. I'm sorry, folks. That crosses the line.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And John. That's only talking about how it looks to Republicans. Let's get back to the market. Let's get back to Jaguar, okay? How does that sell outside our party? How does that sell to the general market? It doesn't. Once again, there's a fourth thing now. And we can go on to a fifth, a sixth, a seventh. We could easily bring more. We won't do it. It won't take the time. Bottom line is this. Our party in Colorado right now is run by a group that doesn't care at all about the market we have to win to win elections. They do not. And this is why open primaries had to save us from the people they endorsed in our primary. Open primaries had to save us from them wrecking not only our wins here, but the U.S. House. We would have lost the U.S. House of Representatives if our state party had gotten its way. Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Think about that. And yet you'll see newsletters and communication pieces coming out of the Colorado GOP really congratulating themselves on how well things have gone in Colorado in regards to our elections and the outcome of, even though in a lot of cases the wins had actually not only did not have anything to do with them, it was in spite of them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Actually, yeah, and Dick Wadhams, who we at times disagree with.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't like him at all.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I think he fixates on, I think he's not as far as Cheney fixating on Trump.
SPEAKER 03 :
I haven't been a Dick Wadhams fan in decades.
SPEAKER 08 :
But he put out this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sorry, Dick, but I'm just not a fan.
SPEAKER 08 :
He's a squish. Well, here's his article. Colorado Republicans won key races despite their state party. And all I'm going to say about this article is this. It is full of truth, and it's full of numbers, and it talks about where the money came from, where the money went, and how they campaigned against their own candidates and how they helped their candidates. Not at all. They didn't spend a dime on these candidates.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sounds like he listens to our show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I got to be honest, because a lot of times, you know, you and I will disagree with Dick. We'll say, no, no, you're going way too far. Come on. You know, this hate Trump stuff. Drop it. Come on, man. Move on. But you would think reading this article that he was listening to our show because, my goodness, and he's spot on. And he shows how our candidates had to win not just against the Democrats, but against their own party.
SPEAKER 03 :
Should never be that way, folks, and that's why we need change in leadership. Whether that happens this next spring, I honestly don't know. I highly, highly doubt we'll see any change unless some of you that are on the committee and can get in there and be vocal enough to make some change, which I encourage each one of you to try to do. Unless some of you are very vocal and get that done, you're going to be stuck with Dave two more years because Dave's not giving up his cush 200K a year salary, by the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And you've got to keep in mind, it's Dave Loyalists who run the SEC for the most part.
SPEAKER 03 :
By the way, that's more money than what the congressmen, some of you, or congresswomen, some of you elected to go out and represent you in Washington, D.C., make on an annual basis. Right. Just so you know, $200K a year, it's not chump change by any stretch of the imagination.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, one last question for you. Can you imagine going into the 26th election, which is so crucial? We've got governor. We've got senator. Can you imagine having that in charge of our party?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, because it will be a dismal failure.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, my goodness.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. All right, Hunter Biden's pardon. We'll move into that. Experts note that the pardon was unusually broad, covering any offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1st, 2014, key date, by the way, through December 1st, 2024. In other words, Hunter Biden cannot be prosecuted for any federal crime he may have committed or Over more than a decade.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. 11 years almost. And that's because why? That's when he went to work for Burisma. Right. Correct. And what country is that in? Help me out here. Well, that's Ukraine. Ukraine. What do you know?
SPEAKER 03 :
Same one. We're going to funnel another $750 million to.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Let me tell you something. The impeachment of Donald Trump that occurred, remember, what did it occur about? Based on this. Yes. It was based on Donald Trump in a phone call, which I think was perfectly fine, calling on Ukraine and basically saying this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Basically cleaning himself up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, saying clean up your act and investigate this because it looks like there is corruption going on.
SPEAKER 03 :
And yes. Looks like you're making payola to the Biden family is basically what he said. Right. In a not so direct way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, and everybody on the left is saying, oh, you're targeting Biden, you're targeting your political opponent. No, no, you guys don't seem to understand. My political opponent literally is mixed up with corrupt forces in Ukraine. This is going on. This is actually happening. Now, he got impeached for that, which was ludicrous. Wouldn't you say that what Biden just did proves Trump was right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, in fact, I think you should go back to the House and say, guys, reverse what you guys did several years ago.
SPEAKER 08 :
Can you unimpeach someone? I don't even know if you can, but I'll tell you what. If there's any way to unimpeach somebody, they need to do it right now, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
And before you guys start texting me, I get it. He wasn't technically fully impeached. The House did. The Senate did not. I fully understand that. But the House voted to impeach him.
SPEAKER 08 :
But they voted to impeach him based on the idea that he was simply targeting Joe because he's his political opponent. Now Joe has come and look what Joe Biden just did, John, was the equivalent of what Hillary did when she deleted 33,000 emails, used bleach bit on hard drives and smashed cell phones. This is a complete cover up. What he did was wipe clean any investigation of their dealings in Ukraine. And their dealings overseas, completely. What he did was prove Donald Trump was right to be concerned.
SPEAKER 03 :
You just gave a broad brushstroke to your son, basically saying, I'm going to absolve him from any crimes he's committed for a decade.
SPEAKER 08 :
And what he did during that decade was raise money for the family selling Joe's influence.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, in other words, I probably should reward my son. I did. I just pardoned him.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Hunter Biden is now a multi, multi, multimillionaire who is, look, Americans who are listening right now, This family, Hunter Biden, sold access to your president overseas. And by the way, clearly we could see the results of that. Your president was owned by China. Your president was owned by Russia. Your president was owned by Ukraine. Your president was owned by other forces overseas. They owned him. They bought him through the family. And that is why he was always America last in his policies overseas. Right. What did he do with trade deals that Trump did that would help us?
SPEAKER 03 :
Unwound them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he unwound them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Or he didn't enforce them. The very first day he gets inaugurated, the first thing he does is kill the Keystone Pipeline, pushes oil up the very next day, giving Russia all sorts of money that enables them to invade Ukraine. Which, by the way, has now lined the pockets of the Biden family again, because who knows how many kickbacks have come through that channel.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
We don't know.
SPEAKER 08 :
What about when he pushes forth the Green New Deal and suffocates drilling here in America? What does that do? Raises oil. Well, yeah, it raises oil. That makes America more and more and more dependent on who? China. Because they own all the rights to the rare earth minerals that are needed for all those batteries, folks. Everything he did was America last. Why did he do that? Because he was owned by everyone but America. And Trump wanted this investigated. Now, with this pardon, that has been totally wiped clean. There's no way you can investigate all that. Why? Because who was the bag man for the family? It was Hunter.
SPEAKER 03 :
Who's already been pardoned.
SPEAKER 08 :
And Joe will probably pardon his brother, too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Wouldn't because, again, you can do it. We talked about this yesterday. You can do a preemptive pardon, meaning that even if he were to be tried on anything, he's still pardoned.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And I think he'll do something along those lines.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which means that, you know, hey, Jim, here's a little token before I leave office. Yeah. It's also folks. Why? For years now. And a lot of you didn't believe me. I have arguments with a lot of you as listeners. You know, nice, friendly arguments, of course. But it's why I've been saying for quite some time that the Biden empire. is even larger than the obama empire oh yeah folks don't believe that but the biden empire is huge it's powerful he's been there for 50 plus years uh jill now still holds the cards even though joe is you know pretty much incapacitated she holds the cards and the reality is it's why i've also said because a lot of folks said oh you know they're just going to do this and kamala's going to step in as president before things are out just so they can say she was president uh yeah no that ain't happening no the bidens are not giving up the white house before donald trump arrives
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, too many people measure empire by political influence. Obviously, if you're talking political influence, well, Obama is obviously much larger than Biden. If you're talking about their empire, the criminal empire of the Bidens. The power. Oh, the Obamas don't begin to touch that.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, not even close. This is international. Yeah, Biden has way more power than what Obama's got in that regard.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and who has been the head of the Biden crime family now for the last couple years?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Hunter has been. Well, he's the bag man. Probably Jill and Jim.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would say so, yes. Jill is a crime lord.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not Joe, but those two.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Jill is a crime lord. She's a crime lord. This is a criminal.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, she parades him around mainly just so they can stay in office.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's all. Literally, she's just parading him around. Which, by the way, all of you on the left, are you proud of that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, are you proud of that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Those of you that are lefties that are listening to me, are you proud of that? Does that make your day? Dr. Crime Lord. Thank you, Charlie. Dr. Crime Lord.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, we're talking about a woman who had her drug addict son sent overseas. to peddle the influence of her husband when she knew that her drug addict son was going to be with criminal elites overseas where there were drugs and women galore. And there were. That's the cesspool that she sent her son into. And this is why a lot of people who want to just look at, you know, Hunter Biden as the bad guy and, oh boy, you just got this sweet deal. Wouldn't you do that for your son? Yeah, wouldn't you do that for your son? Folks... I'm going to defend Hunter in one regard. He was only doing what his family wanted.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is a good point, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Everything Hunter Biden did.
SPEAKER 03 :
He was only doing what he was told.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Hunter Biden didn't do any crimes just for Hunter Biden. He did them for the family.
SPEAKER 03 :
The family. Yeah. Now, he's part of the family. He wrenched himself. I cannot disagree with you on that one at all. So if you're going to feel sorry for Hunter in a way, I guess you could knowing that in a way he was just doing what the family expected of him to do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is why they had to pardon him. He was a scapegoat. And by they, I mean... The family had to pardon him.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Joe was just a tool of the family. Joe didn't write the pardon, by the way. Joe did.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, gosh, no.
SPEAKER 03 :
Joe just signed it. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Joe scribbled and scrawled his name.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. He's not even fit to even probably sign things at this point, but he did anyway.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, there's no way the family could have their bag man go to prison, rotting away in prison, when he has no loyalty to them beyond the money and the drugs he gets. He would churn on them, most likely, in prison.
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Probably. I will say one other thing, too, that might shock some of you. And I don't think I'm wrong in saying this. I would venture to guess, if I could sit down with Jill and Joe just for a few minutes and have a small conversation... that there is more love for Donald Trump from those two than there is Kamala Harris.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
In other words, they would rather turn the keys to the White House over to Donald Trump than they ever would Kamala Harris.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Especially with what happened this summer. I wouldn't be surprised if Joe himself didn't vote for Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wouldn't surprise me at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'll just go as far as to say that. Would not shock me if he did. Let me ask you this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Do Joe and Jill Biden love their son Hunter like other parents love their kids? When you look at what they did with Hunter. No. Because this idea, well, they love their son, he's pardoning his son, the love of a son.
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
What, are you kidding me?
SPEAKER 03 :
No. No. And Jill has no love for him at all. He's a tool for her, that's all. He's literally just a tool. Yeah. He's the stepson tool. This is not a mom, man. No, she's not a mom to him.
SPEAKER 08 :
At least, I mean, literally she's a mom, but you know what I mean.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, well, she's not to him. She's not his real mom. Even if she was. So, no, she doesn't treat him like a regular mom would treat their son.
SPEAKER 05 :
No.
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Not even close to it.
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No.
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John Rush, together with Andy Page. John, quick question here. As you know, there's a massive deportation effort that is coming, but you have a number of Democrat governors and mayors. I want to look more at the governors. Governors who are saying they're going to resist this. Is that smart or stupid politically? Very dumb. Explain why.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very dumb because the populace, even the popular vote, which... Those of you on the left, let's not forget that not only did Donald Trump win the electoral college vote, he won the popular vote as well, which a lot of folks didn't think would even be possible, meaning that a lot of the things you guys are pushing, open borders, et cetera, we went through a lot of that even prior to the elections. I'm not going to go back through it right now. But the reality is the voters spoke. overwhelmingly and said, no, we do not want this. And yet you've got knucklehead mayors and governors running around saying that we're going to resist any type of deportation measure that comes along from the federal government.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is this especially damaging for someone like Jared Polis? And the reason I ask this, John, because Jared Polis has been running for president now for a year or two.
SPEAKER 03 :
You can really tell. And will be now the next two years.
SPEAKER 08 :
He's been gravitating toward the center on all kinds of things. And on this... He is speaking as a blue state governor playing to his blue state peeps, and that's not thinking outside our state.
SPEAKER 03 :
No. No. I don't even know if that particular topic in the state is as blue as people think. I still think there's a lot of people in this state that are sick and tired. Even Denver, the city of Denver, the constituents there, they are sick and tired of watching that mayor spend millions upon millions upon millions of dollars on illegals when they're having a hard time going to the grocery store.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and you've got to keep in mind, Tom Holman, he's going to first focus on all the dangerous illegals, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Which is the way it needs to be done.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but on removing dangerous illegals, Americans are 70-30 in favor of that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't think that's any different here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 08 :
In Colorado, well, I don't think it's 70-30, but it's still probably over 50.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, it'll be the majority.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so here's what's actually going to happen. Tom Holman, he's going to come in with his troops, you know, and he is going to start removing them. I just don't see how getting in his way or in any way, shape or form being against that is going to help this governor. In fact, this governor could be hurt on that in 2026.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, he doesn't run— No, I'm sorry, but his successor. Yes, I agree with that. His party. The party could very easily be hurt because of what Jared Polis does now in 2026.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly, because isn't their candidate for governor, isn't this person going to be asked, hey, do you agree with this?
SPEAKER 03 :
Which, by the way, could very easily be somebody like a, which I'll talk about Hancock in a little bit, could be a Mayor Hancock, could be a Mike Johnston. It could be either one of those types of individuals that actually come in and try to replace Jared Polis. And what's happening right now with Mike as the city of Denver mayor, his chances of doing, even right now, even with some of the things he's already said and backtracked on, he's done. That ain't going to happen. He's done.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't think he's their candidate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now he's not. He's done.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think they're insane if they run someone like him.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's done. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Here's the thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's another one that just killed his political career doing what he did.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Here's the thing. This is a deep blue state. They can run almost anyone and win. It's like us running Boebert in fourth.
SPEAKER 03 :
Until you go this direction.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And so what I'm saying is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Everybody has a limit, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
If they get that crazy on this. I mean, keep in mind the Democrats lost Virginia. Could it happen here if they have somebody who actually opposes what Tom Holman is doing?
SPEAKER 03 :
That hurts them. Oh, I think it hurts them really bad. And I'm sorry, I don't have this in front of me. What did Mike Johnston spend? $356 million. $356 million on illegal immigrants, which the city of Denver, the citizens there have to be looking at that thinking, what in the world are we doing and why did we ever elect this guy? What a total moron.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and more importantly, look at everywhere they had to cut to get the money.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. And then he's a guy saying, I'm willing to go to jail over this. What an idiot.
SPEAKER 08 :
So you mean I got less of this, less of this, less of this, less of this. These roads here didn't get fixed, whatever. I got less of this stuff so you could give the money to them?
SPEAKER 03 :
Who are here illegally. And again, the crime, the other things that have happened along those lines. His constituents are not going to be happy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. We can afford fewer cops. We can afford less of all kinds of things because of this. Dumb. That don't sell. That doesn't even sell. I mean, it sells on the hard left, but that's it, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
Even there's a threshold there at some point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I come from the hard left. Trust me, there's almost no threshold. But they don't care.
SPEAKER 03 :
Everybody has a pain. Anything.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, do I believe that, you know, I don't like talking too much about my family. But my family throughout the state of Colorado, do I believe that they would vote for that? Yes. For giving money to illegals and taking it from Americans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do more. Double it. They don't care. By the way, may I take a moment? Yeah. I want to wish my father, Ken Pate. Happy birthday, Ken. Happy birthday.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, happy birthday. Awesome.
SPEAKER 08 :
He is 90 years old today.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is awesome. Congratulations.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dad still takes long walks with his dog. Congratulations. And I want to say one other thing here. You know, we pick on the left all the time, but my father, as Democrats go, but as people go, has the highest character of any man I've ever met.
SPEAKER 03 :
Awesome. Well, congratulations, Ken. Happy birthday. He's fantastic. That's awesome. That means a lot. So enjoy your day and celebrate and have fun and congratulations. So that's very meaningful.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Happy birthday, Dad.
SPEAKER 08 :
And let me tell you something. If the Democrats had more of him, we'd never win.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let's hope they don't.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because this last go-around, they didn't do so well. No, they did not. And because they held true to it, which we can talk about this maybe in the last hour, have they learned anything from this last election? And believe me, the guys at the top, the folks at the top, they'll learn from this, and they'll come back and they'll do some things differently. But all in all, have they learned?
SPEAKER 08 :
I believe some have, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
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All right, we are back, about done with hour number two. Got another full hour coming your way. In fact, at the top of the hour, Virginia Allen is going to join us. She's been with us before from The Daily Signal. She's going to give us some commentary on the whole Israeli-American hostage death that just happened, which, by the way, Donald Trump has really come out hard and said, OK, guys, if this thing isn't done, By January 20th, and pardon my language here, all holy hell is going to break loose on you. And he's literally said it in that way. Yeah, he's had. Good for him, by the way. I've had it as well. It's a bunch of garbage. I agree. This administration right now, well, number one, they're probably getting their pockets padded through some of this as well. I don't know that for sure, but it would not shock me. It's no other reason why this thing has gone on as long as it has, and we haven't helped Israel destroy these guys and wipe them off this planet. Be done with it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
We'll be back. Hour number three is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you. Thank you.
Join us for a compelling conversation on Rush to Reason, where we tackle everything from political leadership and the importance of criticism in fostering growth to global issues like South Korea’s sudden turn to martial law. John Rush and his team critically assess both domestic and international affairs, offering insights into the Biden administration's dealings and the historical implications of U.S. foreign policy in Asia. Discover how open primaries may reshape political landscapes and why there’s a growing demand for conservative leadership.
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All right. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Welcome. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, and Andy, thanks for filling in last week. I appreciate that as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Always happy to help out around here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Lots to cover today. Had a lot of fun. Oh, yeah, there's never a dull moment, especially now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, first of all, some of the movies were rather interesting, but we also had a really, really fun talk about immigration. Oh, good. Yes, yes. We had John Fabricatore in here, and he is up for being the head of ICE.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 05 :
He's possibly going to be the head of ICE. He came in studio for an hour.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 05 :
And along with Todd Watkins, and they talked about how will Trump actually do mass deportations. That was fascinating.
SPEAKER 03 :
Awesome. I will actually go back and listen to that. Okay. I appreciate that. Impossible question before we get into our topic in this first segment. We've got a lot to cover today, by the way. On November 30, 1876, the first Thanksgiving college football game was played. The two teams were Yale and Princeton. So there's your answer from yesterday's. Impossible question. Today, what modern-day item made a cameo in the final season of Game of Thrones? Anybody know? Charlie knows. Yeah, Charlie knows the answer. I did not know this. I did not know this either. That's not a big series for me. I never watched it.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was... The last year wasn't very good.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. That's kind of the way they die out. Yeah. Lots of series that way.
SPEAKER 05 :
And the show got too porny for me. I never liked that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I never got into it at all.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I really liked a lot of strategy. I thought there were some incredible performances in it. Peter Dinklage was spectacular. And, you know, Angry Elf.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Angry Elf, yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
He was fantastic. Really quick here. You had a little talk with a gentleman on here yesterday. Yeah. And it was about disciplining children.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
Can I give just a few quick scriptures?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know what? Let's do this first. Okay, go. Because this is hot news right now. Oh, please. That a lot of folks may, maybe you've heard, maybe you haven't heard. South Korea.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
They have a lot going on there right now, which typically they're usually kind of a stable ally. We do a lot of trading back and forth with them. For those of you that maybe don't know, Hyundai, Kia, that's their headquarters in South Korea. They are under, right now, martial law. Things aren't going well there at this point in time, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well... Their leader put them under martial law. I thought that their Senate or whatever, their parliament revoked it. Is that not the case?
SPEAKER 03 :
I have not kept up on the news. This was earlier this morning that I was reading. I did not read up on things the last few minutes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, basically, he is very concerned that they, the people under him. OK, they I guess and I don't know. I don't know how South Korea is broken down. I'd have to read more into it. Yeah, it says right here. Martial law.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. It has ended in South Korea. Bottom line is this. Their leader supposedly is more conservative and the parliament is more communist friendly. And he is very concerned that they have too many sympathies with.
SPEAKER 03 :
you know communist china correct that's what i was reading right and so he wanted to stamp down on that and um they his quote was to safeguard a liberal south korea from the threats posed by north korea's communist forces and to eliminate anti-state elements i hereby declare emergency martial law that's what he had said uh earlier yeah and apparently they overrode him There's a lot of turmoil going on right now is the point.
SPEAKER 05 :
The bottom line of this is, John, South Korea has historically been more right-leaning.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now they could be swinging left-leaning.
SPEAKER 03 :
All the more reason we need a Donald Trump right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's my point with all of this. Well, yeah. Very much. That's why we need a Donald Trump. That was how I wanted to start today's show off.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, what's it going to be like if both North and South Korea are on the same side?
SPEAKER 03 :
We don't want that.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. No.
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We have done a lot. I don't know if some of you – some of you probably know this. A lot of you conservatives probably at least know this. We have done a lot to help South Korea after the Korean War and so on. We did a lot to help, quote-unquote, prop them up, technologically speaking and so on, Andy. We've done a lot to help them get to where they're at right now. The last thing we need is that going away. Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and there are people who would regard South Korea as the most Christian nation in the world. More than us.
SPEAKER 03 :
More than us. Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. And I don't know, but that was 10, 20 years ago. So I don't know where that is right now. But I know South Korea had become very Christian. and very capitalist, and very freedom-oriented. And it just sounds to me like they're moving away from it.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's scary. The liberals have taken over. Is that the case?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they infiltrate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, they do, including the church.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look what they did here with the church. You've been talking about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, I have.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, the church in America right now is a mess. I wonder if that's happening in South Korea. I have no idea. But I will say this. If they let communists take over the government, the church will be in real bad shape in South Korea.
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Yeah, and the only reason I wanted to start that off was because that's big news right now. There's a lot of folks maybe that are following that, and if you didn't know about that, it's probably at least worth following. Again, just sort of a reminder that, and I know lefties don't like hearing this, but all the more reason why we need leadership like Donald Trump rather than somebody that wants to send $750 million once again to Ukraine, which is what we heard today as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, he's just completing the payoffs.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's absolutely nonsense, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's just payoffs.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's all it is. We're just continuing on with the same mantra that we've been doing all the way through the last three-plus years.
SPEAKER 05 :
John, can you even make a guesstimate of just how much money the Biden family has made from their overseas dealings?
SPEAKER 03 :
Hundreds of millions.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I mean not selling any products. You know, the Trump family, they sell products, okay? I'm talking about selling pure influence.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hundreds of millions of dollars, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
My gosh, it's got to be staggering.
SPEAKER 03 :
Enough that they will, none of them, the regime, we'll talk more about that today because we've got things to talk about with the pardon and so on, but enough that none of them will ever have to quote-unquote work again. Not that they ever have, but yeah, exactly. You get my drift. I get your drift. They are, and some of the family members, i.e. Hunter, very young. has a lifetime ahead of him of never having to really work again. Not that he ever has, to your point, but this just sews it up that he doesn't have to.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, the funny thing is, John, Hunter was the one who was the hardest working in the family.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he didn't do much.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, he did it as a criminal. But what I mean is, yes, but he was a hardworking criminal. True. Good point. There are texts that, you know, they've intercepted. I think they were texts, maybe emails, but I think they were texts of Hunter being very, very angry about, With the rest of the family because he was basically supporting them by making all these deals, cutting all these deals. Right. And he was very angry. You know, a lot of people wonder, well, why did Joe pardon Hunter? Well, we got to keep in mind, Hunter was the bag man for the family. He was the funnel through which all the money came into the family while selling Joe's influence. If they had let Hunter go into prison, he could have churned on him.
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We'll talk more about that.
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Yeah.
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God. Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We're going to talk more about Hunter Biden's pardon at the top of the 4 o'clock hour because I wanted to squeeze in here, Andy, because you and I have talked a little bit about this in the past. Yes, I'll criticize where it's due. And for those of you that listen that are on the left, you hear me criticize both the left and the right because I'm an equal opportunity critic.
SPEAKER 06 :
Criticizer. Critic.
SPEAKER 03 :
And what I mean by that is if something's not being done right, I'm going to point it out whether it's on the left or the right. And I feel like part of my job here as a host is to do that. I'm not just going to cover for one side and criticize the other. I will criticize equally. Which, by the way, when you constructively criticize, that's how you make things better, Andy. That's how I view it. Am I wrong in that thought process?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, you are correct. You are not wrong. And look, I mean, you don't become stronger with less truth. By walling out truth. True.
SPEAKER 03 :
It doesn't help. We were talking a moment ago about Scripture, and we'll get back to some of that, because some of that Scripture that we were mentioning in the 3 o'clock hour, we had a caller call back in and sort of set the record straight, I guess you could say. But a lot of times, Scripture is taken out of context. But in this particular case, when there's the iron sharpens iron, What I see in that is, okay, if we're not holding each other accountable to the things that we're doing, then we're never going to be better, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. And it's even more interesting if you look at what iron is. Iron is a metal that is very strong, but it is also very bendable. Right. Okay. And so the whole idea is this. When we are together with those, you know, not just in the church, but in our families, business, anywhere. Heck, on a radio show.
SPEAKER 03 :
In general, that's right. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
we have to be able to withstand – first of all, we have to be strong enough to tell somebody the hard truth. Correct. Bring the iron. And you also have to be able to let it sharpen you like iron. You can't be brittle. That's right. You can't just – you know what I mean?
SPEAKER 03 :
Be unyielding. For example, and most of you don't know this, but I admire our engineer Charlie greatly, more than he probably would ever know, because there's a lot of times where he'll, during a break, even come back and say, you know – You probably should have said X, Y, Z in that last segment. Let's make sure that we clear that up when we come back. Right. Because there's things that maybe didn't quite come across to the audience correctly. So let's clean that up. And for me, I don't take – I mean, I don't get offended at that, I guess I could say, Andy. I look at that and say, okay, that's how I become a better host because I want those criticisms, which – Maybe it's a criticism, maybe it's not, but some would think of it that way. Well, I've got thick skin. I don't see it as a criticism. Let's clean that stuff up and make it happen the way it's supposed to.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. I've been here when Charlie has done that. Like, you'll say something in a certain way, and I will hear it in my ear. Charlie will say, hey, when you come back, I would add this and this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Clean that up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, because people might be hearing it this way. And do you just say, well, hell no, I'm the guy. I'm the Michael Jordan of this show, okay?
SPEAKER 03 :
I want to be better. Jordan rules. I want to hear those things.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm the king. We're going to do it my way. No, you just say, yeah, that's a good point. And we come back and you jump right in.
SPEAKER 03 :
I want to know how to be better, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, well, the bottom line is people who are running our state party, I know we keep coming down on them. But, folks, we've never had leadership like this ever. They don't do this. I have had to deal with... some of their people who literally are trying to cancel and censor opposing voices across various pages in Colorado, Republican pages here in Colorado, basically telling them, you know, shut this person down, shut that one down. Don't let them speak. I'm one of them. And it's like, guys, if you can't hear the other side. Now, I can understand if I just come at them like this screaming troll. I get that. I understand. But if I'm coming at them with information, details, facts, which we do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Constantly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Then they're going to get stronger if they listen to that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so I've got an email. Sorry, newsletter that was emailed out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
And there's a copy of this that we'll put in our show notes because you guys can come back and actually look at this for yourself in case maybe you don't subscribe and you don't get the Colorado GOP's emails. This is a short one. And so I want to read to you one of the recent ones. I've got a couple that we're going to talk about today, but this one in particular. You probably know the Colorado GOP Central Committee voted overwhelmingly to sue Colorado to get rid of open primaries. Andy and I have talked about that a ton, but let me continue. Representatives from virtually every county voted for it. You might not know or might have forgotten that. The Colorado GOP did sue the state in federal district court. The case is moving forward with the next hearing date in early 2025. You definitely know why success is so important. Open primaries have selected GOP candidates who lose in general elections. That's because unaffiliated voters dominate open primaries. We'll come back to this. I want to finish this and then I'll come back.
SPEAKER 05 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Even Democrats masquerading as unaffiliates participate in open GOP primaries. The voice of GOP voters is muzzled by open primaries. Opponents of conservative principles couldn't invent a better scheme to defeat GOP candidates. Renting ourselves of open primaries isn't free, it isn't cheap. Lawyers must be paid. Contributions from GOP supporters are necessary to achieve victory. Please contribute to this fight for the Colorado GOP lawsuit against open primaries. Information about how to contribute can be found below. Best regards, Maurice Emmer, member of the Colorado GOP lawsuit committee. Committee, again, a fund has been set up with the Claremont Institute for Constitutional Jurisprudence, which is a 501c3 organization, and these contributions can be tax deductible when itemizing your tax deductions. Please specify that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, in other words, this was an email sent out to garner dollars to fight this open primary system we have in Colorado.
SPEAKER 05 :
And this email was full of utter crap. Total crap, by the way.
SPEAKER 03 :
None of this is true, by the way. No, no, no. Hang on. Let me back up. Yeah, go ahead. It is true that we're suing as a state party the Colorado, you know, the open primary system we have in Colorado. So that part, yes, in fact, is true. I have said numerous times, stop wasting your time and resources on this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And it's also true that the Colorado GOP Central Committee, the SEC, voted overwhelmingly to sue Colorado. Well, of course. I get that. As you and I have said many times, the SEC right now is dominated by the Liberty Wing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. It's a very small nucleus of people that are running things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not the Trump supporters, the Trump onlys.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's even worse than that, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. It is a rabid faction.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. That's a better way to say it.
SPEAKER 05 :
That represents very few Colorado Republicans, and this is why they get demolished.
SPEAKER 03 :
Probably less than 1% of Colorado Republicans, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, fewer, yeah, because, look, they come from the caucus assembly group, which fewer than 1% of Colorado Republicans attend, okay? And then they put forth, remember, they put forth 18 endorsements in contested races in the primaries.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so really quick, just to make sure that we're correct on this. this yeah because i want to make sure we correct because we just we went through the numbers not that long ago on actual registered colorado republicans correct yeah which was around if you remember right i don't have it in front of me it was around 960 000 or yeah it's just short of a million it's just short of a million so in fact let's be let's be kind because it'll help with the numbers so we're not skewing things one way or the other let's just call it 950 000 Fine. Okay, so what do you feel the SCC consists of? What's the number? I don't know that number. How many are in the SCC?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, gee, I forget.
SPEAKER 03 :
Is it under 1,000? Is it 500, 300, 200? What is it? The SCC, I think, is three-something. Okay, so let's be a little generous and say 350.
SPEAKER 05 :
I can't remember. Sorry.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let's just, again, we'll be kind to them.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, you're talking 64 counties. Gee, I don't know, but go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so I use 350 as the number.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, maybe that's a little low, maybe that's a little high, but let's use 350. Whatever. Okay, that is .03. No, it's .003% of the 950,000.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And we have to keep in mind, then their comeback to that would say, yes, but they were voted in there by their constituents.
SPEAKER 03 :
They are representing... Regardless, it's less than 1% of the party.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, because the people who voted them in are the people who go to what? Assemblies.
SPEAKER 03 :
That are probably still maybe 2% of the party.
SPEAKER 05 :
They are the people who go to central committee meetings. They are the people who go to these meetings. Okay. That's well under 1% of the party.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. So all of what we just said is less than 1% of the 950,000 registered Republicans in Colorado.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because what happened over the last couple cycles is the liberty groups, which organize regularly. John, do you organize regularly with... No. No, you don't, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. I'm going to have to use this word, the normies. Ordinary Republicans don't meet once a month at these groups. They don't. And I love these groups. I've spoken at them. I've been part of them. I'm not calling them bad people. I'm just saying they are a very small group. These Tea Party groups that are now Liberty groups and so forth, they meet regularly. That means that they can mobilize their numbers. to have greatly outsized influence at caucus and assemblies. That's why they want all of our candidates chosen through caucus and assembly. Why? Because they can overrun caucus and assembly. They don't like primaries. Why? Primaries, there are too many people, and therefore these small groups cannot mobilize and overwhelm them. These small groups overwhelmingly support Dave Williams. all right? Correct. They put him in power. Correct. He is in power because of a small group that has dramatically outsized power. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, go ahead. No, no. So, by the way, perfect segue. We can come back and talk more about this because, again, this was a... Message sent out, GOP newsletter, if you would, quote unquote, soliciting dollars to come into this quote unquote legal fight against Colorado and the open primaries. Yes. And I want to talk when we come back why, number one, this we've already talked briefly about what's wrong inside of this particular newsletter. But I want to talk about, Andy, the fact that we're raising money for something that frankly is a waste of money.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah, and let me take one step further, and then we'll come back.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
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SPEAKER 03 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And yeah, the topic of this particular newsletter, and I've got some other things I want to talk about when it comes to the newsletters that come from the Colorado GOP, but in this particular case where they're literally soliciting donations for the legal fund, quote-unquote, to fight open primaries. That's essentially what this particular newsletter we're talking about right now. And again, just to remind everybody that, number one, Andy and I are, no, we're not fans of open primaries, okay? We've said that numerous, numerous times. But I will also say, and Andy and I have said this many, many times throughout the last year plus, probably two years we've been talking about open primaries on this particular show. They're here. This lawsuit, by the way, isn't going to end them. The only way, and I've said this many, many times, the only way to end open primaries in Colorado is put it back on the ballot. That's how we got them in the first place. The only way to really correct them is go back to the voters and say, do you want to end open primaries? Start a proposition. We just had an election a few weeks ago where several propositions either were shot down or they made it through, Andy. It's what we do in Colorado. This is a state that's very famous for running amendments and propositions on Election Day, correct? Absolutely correct. And the way we got open primaries was through that process. I want to remind everybody.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And those who oppose the open primaries would come back at you and say this. They would say, yes, but this is a private organization. Other people should not be voting themselves the right to vote in our primaries.
SPEAKER 03 :
And really quick, the argument back to that is... There are tax funded or there's tax dollars that go into running both parties when it comes to the election process, including the primaries and so on. So the argument back would be, then why shouldn't we be able to vote on how they're done collectively as citizens of Colorado, you know, residents of Colorado?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And let's face it, there are any number of things that a party does that have to go according to various state laws, regardless of whether you're a private entity.
SPEAKER 03 :
And again, I'm going to make sure I repeat, I wasn't a fan, nor did I vote for open primaries when they came out. I'm just giving you what the rebuttal would be for those that would say we're a private organization.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And I think our big issue today, John, is not whether or not you and I like open primaries. We don't. I believe, ideally, only Republicans should choose who represents Republicans as candidates. I agree. But it is what it is right now. Well, and here's the thing. The state party has set up open primaries as the big boogeyman that are causing all the world's ills. What I what I always say is this. OK, if you want to oppose open primaries, that's fine. But don't grossly exaggerate the impact that they are having.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
And this is where they made the mistake.
SPEAKER 03 :
In other words, don't lie to people about the impact they're having because they're lying. They're flat out lying.
SPEAKER 05 :
Can I read one?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, this is right out of the letter you just read. It says, and I quote, open primaries have selected GOP candidates who lose in general elections.
SPEAKER 03 :
Actually, the opposite is true.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's because unaffiliated voters dominate open primaries. Now, by the way, unaffiliated voters do dominate. Why? There's more than twice as many of them than there are of us. Open primaries. And I wrote a whole post. I'm not going to go into it. It's way too long. But I tore this apart. I said, this claim is wildly untrue. I will now examine this claim and I invite anyone to dispute me. By the way, nobody has.
SPEAKER 06 :
Of course they can't.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. And I made just two basic overriding points. First of all... Many Colorado GOP candidates lose in general elections with or without open primaries. Why? It's a blue state, folks. It's been trending heavily blue for the last couple decades because of a mass of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of blue state voters who have moved here. Andy, probably millions. Millions.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, millions have. Yeah, I was too kind. Millions have moved here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Millions of blue state voters have moved here and completely changed the landscape here.
SPEAKER 03 :
And for those of you that don't believe me on the millions, we've gone from a state that when I was a kid that was roughly two and a half to three million people to now five.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. so literally millions have moved and the influx has been overwhelmingly from blue expensive blue states why because they could afford to sell their homes at a greatly you know exaggerated price there come here and own a home with no loan okay that's what they wanted to do and that's what they did and and we have a great state to live in oh yeah let's not forget that as well but they don't want to move from california to alabama
SPEAKER 03 :
No, they want to move from California to Colorado. Right. Because other than the ocean, we have everything they've come to love about the outdoors and so on.
SPEAKER 05 :
And we're not the deep south.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because they hate the deep south. Why? They're blue state voters. Correct. Look. That trend going down, that downward trend, and the upward trend of the number of blue-leaning voters has been constant over the last couple decades. And so here you've got these people from the state party right now trying to come in and blame open primaries for our losses. And they totally ignore, by far and away, the biggest reason we've been losing, and that's been it. Okay? That is dishonest.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. Okay. And by the way, my numbers weren't too far off a moment ago because I just looked. Yeah, go ahead. 1960, so I was born in 64. 1960, we had 1.7 million. So when I was growing up, we were probably in that 2.5 million range or so, and it really started to boom in, I don't know, Andy, probably the 90s or so is when things really kind of started to take off.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I would say the early 2000s is when it really started because by 2010, we had 5 million.
SPEAKER 03 :
So we had gone from in 50 years, we went 1960 to 2010 from 1.7 to 5 million. Right. Most of that growth, by the way, coming in the 90s to 2000s.
SPEAKER 05 :
And the influx was heavily from blue states.
SPEAKER 03 :
And since 2010 to now, we're actually approaching. I was low in my 5 million. We're we're almost six. We're five, eight, five, eight, seven, seven in 2023. Right. So literally millions, again, have come in to change what you talked about.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. OK, so first of all, they're lying because they're not looking at the big factor for why we're losing elections. We're losing elections because there's too many too many liberal Democrats here. Yeah. Or Democrat style unaffiliated or leftist type voters.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let's say it that way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. The you voters, the unaffiliated voters here in Colorado lean left strongly. OK.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
And so. You know, they're just lying by trying to blame this. That's right. Secondly, here's their big assumption, John, that what they're saying from the state party is these unaffiliated voters. And he even says it in the thing he writes. They come in as Democrats undercover and they come in and vote in our primaries to give us these bad candidates that are not. Now, keep in mind that people running. the colorado republican party are the liberty style ron hanks style dave williams style yes people that's what they think we should have as candidates are you with me yes okay and what they're saying you know really quick in cd8 which we barely won with gabe evans right was their pick what was his name joshi okay which he is what andy
SPEAKER 03 :
He's a Liberty candidate. So if they would have actually had their candidate, how well would we have done in CD8, Andy?
SPEAKER 05 :
There is a 100% chance we would have lost.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, gotcha. Not 99%, 100%. Absolutely, that seat in the U.S.
SPEAKER 05 :
House would now be held by a Democrat. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let's go one step further and talk about which we might as well talk about the elephant in the room. That would be Lauren Bober, who switched.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
From what to what? She went from three to three to four. Right. So she went from three to four. She won in four, which we knew she would.
SPEAKER 05 :
And she was backed by the state party. They endorsed her. She was their Liberty candidate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not at first, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not at first, but then they endorsed her as the Liberty candidate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. So what would have happened had she stayed in three? Lost. I agree. Okay. Dave's CD5. How would that would have turned out if their candidate, him, Dave Williams, the current chair, if he would have actually won that primary, how would that have gone? Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we won that one by 14.1%, so it's a very red district. Dave Williams would have put it within five points either way. He could have lost that district.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree with you.
SPEAKER 05 :
He very well could have lost that district. I agree. And for those who don't think so, I once again have to remind them of two things. Number one... Dave Williams would be easily the most hated because Ron Hanks didn't didn't win. He would be the most hated Republican candidate in the state, not only by Democrats, but by most unaffiliated who he blames for everything. He tells them to get off our lawn and by a lot of Republicans who resent him. He is the least electable Republican in the state of Colorado. And I'd like to remind people in North Carolina where Trump won. You know, North Carolina by a few percent. Our candidate for governor lost by an 18 point margin below Trump's win. So he did 18 points worse than Trump did. OK, now. he's not as bad a candidate as Dave Williams. Okay. We won that district by 14 points. Drop 18 off that, we lose.
SPEAKER 03 :
My point is, of the several that I've just mentioned, had we had it the way that the hardcore... I'm sorry I used that term.
SPEAKER 05 :
You don't even have to use hardcore. They made endorsements. Had we done what their endorsements were.
SPEAKER 03 :
Had we done what that group in the party, because I want to be careful, because I'm a hardcore conservative. So I don't want to label these folks that because I am one. But if the... portion of the party that's running it now had had their way, we would have had, instead of the wins, we would have had the opposite and most likely would have had losses, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Look, they wanted—I just mentioned his name in CD3. I'm suddenly spacing it. Hanks. They wanted Ron Hanks in CD3.
SPEAKER 03 :
They didn't get that. They got heard instead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Ron Hanks, 100%. Not only was Ron Hanks a 100% guaranteed loser in CD3 if he had been our candidate, but the Democrat candidate was running ads to help Ron Hanks and spending a lot of money on him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Telling you how badly he wanted to run against Ron.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, he was running ads against Jeff Hurd to help Ron Hanks in our primary. The Democrat was. That's how bad the candidate that the state party endorsed was.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we had the state party actually endorsing all of what was going on there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Well, they endorsed, you got four candidates.
SPEAKER 03 :
Even taking some of the same commercials and putting them up in their own social media sites.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you've got four candidates that they endorsed in these House races and contested races, okay? Three, four, five, and eight, okay? In three, had they gotten their way, we absolutely would have lost.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because they wanted Lauren to stay there. From the very get-go, by the way. Let's not forget that part of this as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Even going back further, they wanted Lauren to stay there. That's right. Had she stayed there, she would have lost for sure. Okay, that's why she left.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right, because she knew.
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But after she left, they then endorsed Ron Hanks, who guaranteed he was an even worse candidate than Lauren, which is hard to believe.
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Absolutely, Andy. Absolutely.
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Ron Hanks is despised by everybody but a small group of... The GOP.
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OK, and just I'll go on record because I've said this many times. I'm one of those that despise him. So so you all know where I stand. I can't stand Ron Hanks.
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He turned on us in 2022.
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The guy is a traitor to the party. And I've said that numerous times. And by the way, he's in leadership in the Colorado GOP right now.
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Right. Well, let's take a step back. There are four races, U.S. House races. And what I'm saying is the open primaries rescued us.
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Absolutely. Had it not been for them, we would have tanked.
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Because the state party made four choices. In CD3, their choice absolutely guaranteed 100%, no doubt about it, would have lost.
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L on the column.
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Okay. In four, their choice, Lauren Boebert, that's who it turned out to be, she won, but she lost 12.5 points off our margin in 2022. Right. She was a horrifyingly bad candidate. Right.
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And that's not because we don't like her, just bad candidate.
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No, I would have voted for her in the general, absolutely. But their candidate who did win a primary lost us 12.5%, which is unbelievable. In five, their candidate, Dave Williams... Would have lost probably, or been really close. might well have lost that race, okay? Even though we won, Jeff Crank won by 14.
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Let's just say this. It would have been as close of a race as Gabe had in eight.
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I'm going to say this.
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Am I right?
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Yeah. I'm going to say this. If Dave Williams had been our candidate in five, we would have lost it. John, he's hated from all corners of the state.
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I know.
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No, he would have lost it.
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I'm just going to say it. He would have lost. Okay. So there's one that would have flipped. And then, yeah. And CD8 especially we would have lost.
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CD8. John Akjoshi lost the primary by 56 points. Okay. Do you honestly think in the general, our good candidate only won by 0.8%. I know.
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Barely squeaked by. Barely squeaked by. Literally squeaked by.
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Okay. In a primary that, by the way, two-thirds of that primary was unaffiliated voting in it. And they voted 56% against Janak Joshi. Do you believe in the general election they would have backed him enough to where he would have won?
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No. Zero percent chance. Point being... The money that we're—this is really where I wanted to go with this. Number one, it's a flat-out lie, this particular newsletter that was sent out. Terrible lie. And there is— It's blaming open primaries. You can actually find this out on the Internet, because even if you didn't get the email, you can still find it. It'll be in our show notes for later tonight. On top of that, they're trying to suck money from donors. to then, in my opinion, go waste it on doing something in regards to the open primaries. This is money that we should be collecting to help the next election that we've got coming up. Big one coming up in 2026, by the way. We've got governor and senator that we've got to get handled in 2026. This is the kind of money we should be raising, or the money we should be raising should be for that, not to go fight some stupid lawsuit. Absolutely. And yes, it's a stupid lawsuit. Oh, it's ridiculous. It's a waste of money and time, but guys...
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They they're trying they're spending all their money going after open primaries, which rescued us in 2024.
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I just walked through it. Right. Why then defeat? You know, the way I've said it numerous times and Andy agrees with me. When you're in business, you deal with the cards that are given to you. Right. You can't go out and change the market. So what you do in business is you respond to the market that's in front of you, and you deliver to it what you best can to then make money off of that. So in the case of politics, when you've got the particular market that you've been dealt with, respond accordingly and use it to whatever benefit you possibly can. Yes. That's what you do, folks. Look, you compete in the market you have, not the market you wish you had. Don't complain about the market. That's how businesses go broke, by the way. They complain about the market. Oh, I can't do this. Oh, I hate that customer. Oh, I can't do anything for that guy. I can't do anything for that gal. I can't do anything for that particular family. These aren't the customers I want, so I'm just going to go ahead and keep doing business like I've always done, hoping that the right customer walks in. That's a business destined to fail.
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Absolutely. You're not dealing with the market that you have. They're not dealing with the market that they have. And this is why they endorsed candidates who would have lost in that market. It's wishful thinking.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, John, really quick here from this letter.
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Yes.
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Once again, he said open primaries have selected GOP candidates who lose in general elections. We've already shown it was the exact opposite. Okay. He then goes on to say this. Even Democrats masquerading as unaffiliated participate in open GOP primaries. The voice of GOP voters is muzzled by open primaries. Opponents of conservative principles couldn't invent a better scheme to defeat GOP candidates. Is that what really happens? Okay.
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No.
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There are basically four kinds of people who vote in open primaries, unaffiliated, who vote in Republican primaries. I'm going to give them to you really quick. First ones are the Liberty Movement voters who left the GOP because they felt it was too compromising.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Are they going to vote against Dave's candidates?
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're going to vote with them, right? Okay. Another group, the left-wing activists who are looking to hurt the GOP by choosing bad candidates.
SPEAKER 03 :
By the way, I think that's a very, very minor portion that vote.
SPEAKER 05 :
It is a minor portion, but this idea that they come in and give us a bunch of moderate candidates, is that actually what they do? No, they're going to vote for Dave's candidates. And how do we know that for sure?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because of what happened over in the Western Slope when it came to Hank's.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. The Democrats, they spend their money to help Dave's candidates.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. They're not going to get that moderate candidate that can win. Okay. They don't want that guy, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. Or gal. They want liberty. They want to run against these liberty candidates.
SPEAKER 03 :
They're not stupid.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, they're not stupid. So if they are spending money to help Dave's candidates, they're certainly not going to hurt Dave's candidates. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
The other two groups are real quick here. Right-leaning moderates who left the GOP because they felt it was too hard-line. They left because of the Daves. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
They are probably going to vote for that moderate candidate.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, but are they going to vote for candidates who are going to appeal to more Coloradoans or fewer?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, to the more.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, because they're going to reflect the market. That's right, because that's who they are. And the last group, moderate voters who never were Republicans, but they want candidates they feel represent the mainstream. Once again, they're going to support candidates that better reflect the market.
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And really quick, too, we need to make sure we put a reminder out there, because as an independent or as an unaffiliated voter, you cannot vote on both sides. So even those hardcore lefties that come over and vote on our side, they're giving up their vote in their own primary because you can't vote on both sides. I think there's some misconceptions and confusion out there that people think that these folks are voting on both sides of the aisle. You can't. It's one or the other, Andy.
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Right. Those hard lefties who do come into the Republican primary, Dave would say, well, they're coming in to give us a bunch of moderate candidates because that's what they want. They want a water
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down our message. That's absolutely incorrect.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, guys, they want candidates they think they can beat.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they want the beatable candidates. They want the most beatable candidates. That's right. And remember, too, as I said, if there's a close race, close primary race on the Democrat side, typically there's not, but sometimes there is. Those are individuals that are giving up the right to vote on that side of the aisle when they do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Okay, here's the end. We've got just a few seconds. Looking at those four groups... is it pretty obvious that overall the unaffiliated voters are actually giving the Republicans in Colorado... The winnable candidate. The more winnable candidates, the candidates that help us win more and appeal more to the general market.
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Which, by the way, are typically the folks that Andy and I are talking about when it comes to election time anyways, because we want that candidate as well, because we want them winning. Open primaries bring the market into our primaries. Not the opposite. Not the opposite. Which is exactly what we keep trying to preach when it comes to our current leadership and the GOP here in Colorado. They don't understand the state. They don't understand the market. Their marketing side sucks because they don't know who they're actually marketing to. And it's very internalized, and you're never going to win elections when it's internalized. We'll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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I'm just trying to figure out what one. Well, let's do this one. All right. So this happened on Thanksgiving morning. And in this house, they carve more than just the turkey. Yeah. Yeah. This is in Pensacola. A Florida man stabbed his ex-wife's new husband on Thanksgiving morning. in Escambia County. Gregory Grant, 72, was charged with attempted homicide. They said that the Grant, the guy who was, I guess, the perpetrator, was homeless, currently living with his ex-wife and her new husband, stabbed the new husband in the upper abdomen during an argument. The victim was transported to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. And, yeah, they apparently had gotten into an argument. And I don't know. And the guy who was stabbed said, I was trying to be a nice guy and help out a homeless person. And this is the appreciation I get. Yeah. I mean, again, the knives go in the turkey, not each other. That's how that works. A central Florida man. Lied about, he lied about his identity and he was arrested because he said he forgot who he was when he got caught lying about his identity. This is Polk County Sheriff's Office where this feller, this, he was arrested. And then when he was originally detained, he lied about his identity, slipped up while trying to keep it going. And 54, he's 54 now. Wow. Wow. Wow.
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Wait, could he be lying about that too? I mean, he's lying about it.
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He's got to be lying about being 54. Anyway, Richard Hallmark of Winter Haven. That totally sounds like a Christmas movie from Hallmark. Bad one. They found a backpack in his car that had meth, all kinds of stuff in it. He said, no, that backpack is my brother's, Robert Hallmark. I don't believe his last name. I'm surprised he didn't go, of the Hallmark family. And... I can't deal with it. So according to Polk County Sheriff's Office, Pro Boxer George Foreman famously had five. This is an article had five sons with the same name. And then there were the brothers from the TV series New Heart. So it wasn't out of question that they could be. There could be brothers who were both named Robert Hallmark.
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And this one reporter, she's that Taylor Lorenz chick. Man, hot mess. She's apparently was having a fit over, I guess it was, you know, her book release and all that. I didn't even know she had a book out and I don't think anybody cares that she has a book out, but she was having a book release party and she was trying to plan it and apparently she was mad at everybody. And she said that planning a COVID-safe book launch took months and thousands of my own dollars, ensuring testing, outdoor space, far UV lights, a litany of other precautions. She goes, meanwhile, you blank blanks are out there raw-dogging the air and spewing your disease-laden breath all over your elderly neighbors. We are not the same. I have got a lot of questions. First off, that's not how that phrase is used. And secondly, you know, you can just say breathing. breathing works just as well. Makes Cain feel a lot better. Because that's not what that means. I don't even know what that... She acts like you're always supposed to wear the mask on your face. Why is it a cold? It is a stupid cold. COVID is a cold. People need to stop freaking out. Stop it. Just don't even get upset. Don't freak out. It's a cold. Holy hell. I tested for COVID over Thanksgiving. I actually didn't mean to. It was an accident. Did you know how this happened? I'm totally fine. My strep throat was separate from my kid. So I went in and they were like, oh, we need to swab you for your, cause you know, you get swabbed for strep throat, right? We're going to swab you for a strep throat. We're going to do it. Are you ready to get swabbed? And I'm like, sure. Yeah. So they swabbed my throat and then hands to sky. Cause I never get swabbed for coronavirus. I just don't because it's a cold. It's stupid. Next thing I know, they had a Q-tip up my nose and I'm like, whoa, wait a minute. I did. And they were out. And then they came back and said, oh, you had tested positive. And I'm like – and I told – first off, my first, I think, response was the blank I am, run it back or something like that. I don't remember exactly how I said it. But then – and the doctor was very nice and is pretty like-minded. He was like, look, it's a cold. I'm like, so what are you telling me? I got to quarantine and I got to do all this stuff. Is that what the people still do? And he goes, no one does that anymore. He's like, literally no one does. He said, it's a cold. And I'm like, I know that, but all colds are coronaviruses, but only one of these has the stigma. Right. I mean, only one of them has literally ended families and and caused great division in the nation. Right. Only one of them contributed to people getting suspended and silenced on social media. Right. I mean, hell, I almost been demonetized on YouTube for talking about it. So, yeah, only one of them carries a great penalty. So you can say all damn day that it's all all a coronavirus, but there's different. It's a difference. And I said almost all that. And he looked at me and he said, no, you don't need to. People aren't doing that anymore. He said it's not a thing that anybody's doing. He had added that, you know, you don't need to go and like a sconce yourself. He's like, most anybody gets is like maybe a slight cough or they're just tired. That's it. He's like, it's not at all like it used to be. And he was saying that what the incubation period and even the contagious period, period of contagiousness aren't even, he's like, they're not even the same duration. He's like, it's a completely different thing. He's like, so just know you're fine. You don't need to do anything different. I'm like, okay. So that was it. She's still freaking out about this. Still freaking out about it. It's a cold. And I don't know. I just don't... I can't imagine anyone being either accidentally or on purpose. I almost think it's on purpose at this point. That's stupid. Like I had to bring in all this other stuff. It's a virus. You're never going to kill the virus. Never going to happen. And then... So this... One other quick thing. Did you guys hear the story of the Ohio woman? Who... We had this, sorry, I saw this actually and I was going to put this somewhere else, but it fits perfect here. Remember the story, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, right? So the one broad who was caught legit eating a cat in the middle of the road, she's pled not guilty to one felony charge of animal cruelty, Alexis Farrell. So see, or Farrell, I don't know how every, I like Farrell better. Yeah. This story was never not true. It was never not true. So this woman pled guilty to one felony charge of animal cruelty. She was legit convicted for eating a cat in an August video when everyone was saying they're eating the cats and they're eating the dogs because that's true. This woman was on video. This was in the same town where they were talking about the people who were coming in illegally and kidnapping pets in that same area. So it was never not true. Hmm. I know all of the things that you guys were told, that you guys were told about. This is not how it always is. Ohio woman. That's just how they're going to refer to her. Can I just touch back on the coronavirus thing a little bit? Does anybody still actually get it anymore? I've had it before. And no, I've never gotten the government experimental injection because I have a thing called natural immunity. It really is not anything. I think you're just tired. My strep throat, which is separate, that I got was way worse. So why are people talking about needing to mask up and all that stupid stuff? Like, let's hurt our immune systems more and make it to where we're more susceptible to stuff. I kind of want to encourage him in that thinking because it thins the herd, doesn't it? Does that mean to say? Because I mean, I'm being honest. It's true. It's just so goofy. People have got to stop this. They act like science was just invented. I don't know how colds work. I don't know how the body's immunity works. I don't know at all. Just have no idea. Crazy. Yeah, I can't stand. It was funny because when I went in for the strep throat, And they immediately like, well, can you put on a face mask? And I'm like, wait a minute. So my sinus is already inflamed and I'm already struggling right now to breathe like a normal person. You're telling me to put a completely ineffective piece of cloth over my face to make it more difficult for me to breathe, but do nothing to filter out the small, tiny nanoparticles that will still infect you, regardless of whether or not I have a mask on. Is that what you're telling me? I literally said that. And they went, yes. Like, it's just the policy. Seriously. That's so stupid. Remember when you had to stand so many spaces apart? I purposely would not. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, so first up. Aw. A rash of wild horses were shot, including one that I... One kind of stallion. I'm not even going to say it. All my horse people know. $35,000 award leading to the arrest of the people who did it. That's so bad. Oh. They said that... Onaki? Onakui? Stallion? Is that what it's... Western Desert of Utah? I know that there's a lot of wild horses that are around that area, but they said that people were... Usually, they just try to get photos of them, but apparently... They said that since 2022, at least 60 wild horses and burros have been killed on public lands. It's continuing. I wonder how much of it is actually BLM, Bureau of Land Management. Kind of wonder. So they've got awards out now to try to figure out who's doing this. California can't use all of its solar power. Millions of dollars of electricity goes to waste because the infrastructure isn't in place to store or move all of the solar power. Meanwhile, everyone sees sky-high energy bills. That's true. They can't use all because they don't even they can't even have their solar plants operating at full capacity because they have no way of storing and transferring and doing all of this stuff. See this. People come up with these ideas. Let's have a solar farm. Let's all have solar. So great. And we're just going to do all this and we're not going to actually put anything else in place. We're not going to have any infrastructure to make this a doable thing. Huh, maybe we should have done that. You know how much they frittered away on the high-speed rail that nobody wanted from San Francisco to Los Angeles that nothing ever happened with? Yeah, they could have been doing, I don't know, working on this, but instead, no. The lost human species found in Asia, say scientists, it's called the big head people, the large head people. I don't know. They said, could another group of ancient humans lived alongside Homo sapiens? What are you calling a Homo sapien? Scientists have identified fossils. I'm a heterosapien. Thank you. They found a new species of ancient humans that once roamed Eastern Asia with an extraordinarily large brain. So they call them the large head people. They said they live between 200,000, 160,000 years ago. I don't know. Maybe they just had a thing where they tied stuff on their head to elongate their skulls. And maybe that's what it was. Because, you know, there is there are those things, beauty rituals that have existed with some peoples throughout the human history. Just saying. I just get a Monty Python-esque kind of feel to this. Social drinkers on obesity drugs lose the taste for alcohol. Oh, my God. These are the people, I guess, that are doing the weight loss shots. They said that the people who are on WeGoV or Manjaro do not enjoy alcohol as much. They said a new study of Weight Watchers members who take obesity drugs found out that half of them cut back after they started the medication. I actually kind of wonder if it's a thing that they can use for alcoholism. That's an idea. So Jaguar, you know, right on top of their great, I don't know what you call that. The ad campaign that they had. That hideous thing that they did. Where you didn't even know what it was about. If it was about a car. So they came out with the pink car. I don't know. It's a design vision concept. It was leaked ahead of its official release at Miami Art Week. Per the Telegraph. The car. It's a Jaguar type 00 concept car. And it demonstrates the company's desire to strike through convention. It looks like a stupid, completely not aerodynamic vehicle, right? They said that it's not going to be loved by everyone because it's fearlessly creative. That's what they said, that people aren't going to love it. And the reason that those people won't love it isn't because it looks like a giant pink brick and it's dumb, but it's because what they're trying to do is just simply... Breakthrough conversation. And that's ultimately, that's what they're doing. It looks bad. They said, oh, it's controversial because it's so fearlessly creative, was what they literally said. I'm reading their statement. This is a taste of things to come. Well, then it looks like taste is going to be like feces. This is horrible. And then they had a hot pink They had a blue model, like pastel colored. This looks so dumb. This couldn't clear a speed bump either. Kane, this is horrible. This is a horrible car. This is not aerodynamic. I'm sorry. It's clunky, chunky, and dumb.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's fearless. I would probably request a little fear next time.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
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Their next idea.
SPEAKER 01 :
That car's not hot. It's an ugly car. It's just a bad-looking car.
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I wouldn't even buy that as a toy. Remember the Toys R Us? Yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
Why would you change a heritage brand like this? What do you think Jaguar, before this, what did you think of?
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Oh, just luxurious, sleek, chill.
SPEAKER 01 :
Top hats. Yeah. Smoking jackets.
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Sure.
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English countryside.
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Gentlemanly.
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Yeah. Yeah. Gentlemanly. That's, you know, the genteel nation. That's what I think everybody thought. This, I don't, I mean, they basically use Comic Sans as a font. And then they have this hideous pink block. I mean, it's bad. So they have them. This guy, I mean, I guess they made two concepts of it. It just looks bad. It's just so cringe. People were taking photos by it, but it just doesn't look very good. It doesn't. This is not a car I would drive. Steve, did you see these cars? Is this a car you would drive?
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I wouldn't necessarily drive a Jaguar that looked like that. I don't hate Jaguar.
SPEAKER 01 :
I know. It's like, why do they hate themselves? That's what this is. This is what you make if you hate yourself. And that color. If you if you were a chick and a dude drove up to pick you up in that car. No. Bye. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to lie. Chicks view that stuff as are you a provider or not? It is a measure of if you are a provider or not. Just like men can look at women and be like, are you going to be a lady or not? Like, are you going to be someone that I can? I mean, like, it's give or take. This is the story's old. Everybody knows us. You'd pull up in a car like that. I'm going to think that you work at Victoria's Secrets or that you sell that makeup. What's that makeup that they all sell and they get that pink car? Mary Kay. That's a Mary Kay car. Jaguar went full Mary Kay with this edition.
SPEAKER 03 :
I almost said Avon.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, it's the Mary Kay pink, isn't it?
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, don't check. No, I think you're right.
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm positive. It's like that Edward Scissorhands kind of thing where Diane Weiss would go out and sell makeup.
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In a car that pink.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, but I can't remember. Yeah, you get a pink Cadillac to the top. A Mary Kay car is a pink Cadillac that Mary Kay awards to its top performing independent beauty consultants and sales directors. Oh, so it's the Mary Kay car. Yeah, that's exactly what this is. Well, I don't know what the blue one is, but yeah, that's all.
SPEAKER 03 :
You just don't like fearless creativity. That's your problem.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, this thing is fugly.
SPEAKER 03 :
I had my hand over the dump button.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's a real word now.
SPEAKER 02 :
What if you were a woman driving it, though? Would that be okay?
SPEAKER 01 :
If you're a nana. Okay. If you're a grandmother on her way to the tea room to go and meet with the other dars there, then that's fine. Go ahead and you can.
SPEAKER 03 :
Most women in my life that I've known ever were better and more frugal spenders.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. What does this have to do with this Mary Kay monstrosity? That's an insult to Mary Kay, by the way. for me to call it that. I feel like I'm insulting the hard-working entrepreneurs that made Mary Kay possible.
SPEAKER 03 :
But why try so hard to get away from the gentlemanly, kind of manly image that was Jaguar, like 007, James Bond-y type masculinity? Why are they making that kind of masculinity toxic? I don't understand.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, and I don't – yeah, it's not toxic. It's – that's not what – I don't even think they understand the toxicity is saying that gentlemanliness or chivalry is somehow toxic. This is like a feminist nightmare. I feel like I'm looking at a tampon commercial and not a Jaguar vehicle.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're going to drive this right – it's – I thought it was a Skittles commercial when I first saw it without the sound.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's the Mary Kay car. they went full Mary Kay it's sad because they had such a great brand I mean you that I don't know what they were I guess they were struggling because then it's on you that you're marketing you have such a great like you had a great brand you weren't able to message it to market it and you do this instead Mary Kay already did it like I said
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Dana returns to the mic. President Joe Biden pardons his son, Hunter. South Korea’s President declares Martial Law then Parliament quickly votes to overturn it. Disgraced Washington Post Journalist Taylor Lorenz invents a new phrase for breathing air and Dana caught COVID over Thanksgiving. The Ohio woman who killed and ate a cat in August in a viral video has pleaded guilty to one felony charge of animal cruelty. Trump picks Florida sheriff Chad Chronister for DEA administrator, who arrested pastors for holding church services during the pandemic. Dana still isn’t over Jaguar’s new woke ad and pink car. A young girl absolutely destroys a Walmart with no parental supervision as bystanders let it happen.
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You have said repeatedly yourself since the election, the president has said for months no pardon was coming. I just wanted to ask you, could those statements now be seen as lies from the American people? Is there really a credibility issue here given now this announcement?
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First of all, one of the things that the president always believes is to be truthful to the American people. That is something that he always truly believes. And if you see the end of his, I assume that you've read his statement and you look at the end of that statement, and he actually says that in the first line in the last paragraph. and respects the thinking and how the American people will actually see this in his decision-making. And I would encourage everyone to read in full the president's statement. I think he lays out his thought process. He lays out how he came to this decision. He came to this decision this weekend. So let's be very clear about that. He says it himself. It's in his voice. He said he came to this decision this weekend. And he said he wrestled with this. And because he believes in the Justice Simpson, but he also believes that the war politics infected the process and led to a miscarriage of justice.
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So for at least 48 hours, I was thinking about how Biden pardoned more than two turkeys on Thanksgiving, the Thanksgiving turkey thingy. It was more than It was more than two turkeys. We were all under the impression that there were, but there were two turkeys, pardon. Now we see that there are a lot more. Oh boy, I waited for a really long time to make that joke. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash is with you here, top of this first hour. I was gonna come back yesterday, but your girl's been sick as a dog. Not to borrow the old man phrasing of the Democrat and Republican. party theaters but sick as a dog your girls had strep throat she's been so i'm still not 100 but we're here today so just bear with me because i'm on what do they have me on just so i know we got all this to get into but if i sound super happy or relaxed it's because of the augmentin i'm on an antibiotic called augmentin i'm pretty sure not having done a drug this is what drugs is like I think I'm high. I don't know. Is it? It feels like it. I feel like my head turned into a balloon and just floating up into the clouds, looking down on everybody preparing for Christmas. So then a nice little gesture. It's the nicest thing. Just so mark this. This is the nicest I'll ever be. Everyone's like, she's got to be on Augmentin all the time. I have stories over the weekend. All right. So anyway, let's get to this because they're there. I mean, first off, And none of us got time for this, okay? I was sick all weekend. We all got Christmas to get ready for. We all knew that this was going to happen. We knew that he was going to pardon his son. That was never not going to happen. Did anyone honestly believe? Who among us believed that he was not going to pardon him? You did not. Put your hand down.
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I thought he was an honest guy. I'm sorry, what? I thought he was honest. I thought he was...
SPEAKER 08 :
telling us the american people yeah well the people the truth no hunter biden was always going to be pardoned he was always going to be pardoned by joe this was always ever going to happen it was never not going to happen he was always going to uh always going to go and be pardoned by by joe biden we knew it because joe biden excuse me joe biden He loves his son. Actually, I don't think it's about him loving his son. And this is what I was kind of preparing to talk about, because I think that he is just I think he's a father. He is a crappy father. He is a bad father. Joe Biden is he he would be a deadbeat were it not for vanity. Think of it. He would be a deadbeat were it not for vanity. How many days was it after he had his accident that he got sworn into office when his wife and kids were killed? You guys remember that? Excuse me. After his wife was killed and his daughter. I mean, literally weeks after he's sworn in, he was sworn in a U.S. senator in the hospital two weeks after his wife and his baby were killed. And that was in 1973, two weeks after. He had his youngest son, Hunter, who was there. And he still had brain trauma and all of that from the wreck. Everything that happened with Hunter, and everyone always focuses on Hunter Biden, has also been an issue with Ashley Biden. And Beau Biden's not innocent in any of this either. I mean, he passed away before any of this stuff could ever come to light. But... He also knew about a lot of the stuff with the family business. He was really well aware of it. He was very aware of all the stuff with the family business, and he was trying to distance himself from it as much as possible because he knew that he was going to run for higher office at some point, not just AG of his state. They were all in on it. The whole famed family was in on it. Joe Biden, vanity kept him from being a deadbeat because he wanted to look like a Kennedy so bad. There's something about that generation where they grew up looking at the Kennedys and thinking that that was something that they had to emulate. They were looking at the Kennedys and thinking that that was something that they had to emulate. They had to copy. They had to replicate in order to have, I guess, like a successful Democrat political family. Have you noticed that Democrats are obsessed with this? John Kerry, back when he ran, was obsessed with it. Bill Clinton. I remember when Bill Clinton was running. He and I was again, of course, I was in junior high, but he had reproduced. And it was the first time I ever saw a young president with the future president with the old current president or whatever at the time when Bill Clinton was a kid. He had met, what was it, Nixon? Or he met, maybe it was Carter. He had met one of the presidents. And then there, no, and he met Kennedy. He had met Kennedy. There was a picture of him like reaching out through the audience, like shaking hands with Kennedy. And that was a big thing. And Democrats were all freaking out. And then John Kerry had to show, well, here's me being Kennedy. And they were all obsessed with it. And this is a thing with Democrat bluebloods. They all desperately want to seem like Kennedy's. And so they they style their families like that. They all live similarly. It's just a really weird incestuous bubble. And so Biden always wanted to make his family like this. He has a horrible temper. He he was a jack wagon. I mean, he is. He's a jerk. He just gets this senile old pawpaw treatment now. But the guy has only ever been he's a jackass. He is. He's rude. He's bombastic. He's always been that way. It's just weird. I mean, wasn't his wife now, Jill Biden, screwing around on her husband with him? I mean, wasn't it they kind of like knew about it? I mean, it was a result of affairs. It wasn't something that came about like their eyes met at the grocery store and they were both single. Didn't happen that way. But you always knew this was going to happen. This is my point. And because he feels like he's doing it on behalf of some weirdo family dynasty, that that justifies what he's doing. Now, the interesting thing about all of this, too, even more so, is the way that everything was worded. Because notice that they said it's for all of his crimes. It's all of it. I mean, it's... Everything from even, what, 2014? And then after. The way that it's worded, and we're going to talk more about this, it's exceptionally vague, intentionally vague. And I've never seen anyone just get these preemptive pardons, except maybe, what, for Nixon? For Watergate? To get pardons for things that have not actualized into charges yet. Right. That's how widespread this was. I mean, it is very much a different standard. This he was he was the bag man for the family. They were using all of Biden's offices to enrich in the family. Hunter Biden was doing a lot of the dirty work because he wasn't clean cut or smart enough to be the face of it. That was his brother's job. So they've got to protect the family industry. Well, which it's interesting, too, because I.G. Weiss is saying that no, no, no. No, the charges are still going to be there. That's a whole other thing. I don't know. It's just they lied. I'm not obsessing over the fact that they lied because I expected them to. What I'm most interested in now is whether or not he can still, because you still have charges, and we're going to dive into this. The other thing, too, to touch on, and this is somewhat related, Hunter Biden is also accused of stiffing his L.A. landlord out of over $300,000 in rent. Now, this was... One of his Venice properties. So when Hunter Biden first moved to L.A. and we were all like, why does he have to live in L.A.? All of his family's on the East Coast. He moved to L.A. because he thinks that's where the money people live. So he moved to L.A. He moved to Venice Beach. He lived on one of the canals in Venice Beach there in L.A. And you had a Secret Service that bought a house next to him because one wasn't enough, taxpayer dollars. And apparently he stiffed that landlord. It's almost $400,000 is what he owes in back payment for rent. And the landlord literally was on X over the weekend complaining about it, saying, does this mean we get our rent back? I mean, what is it? We're owed. I mean, you lived in our house for free. We're owed. The guy, Sean McGuire, he's a partner. At Sequoia, which is a big investment company in San Francisco. He was saying he didn't pay rent for over a year in 2019 and 2020. He didn't pay rent for over a year. And so he went to X to talk about it, which I thought was insane and funny. He said, yeah, we had no, he changed the locks. He used Secret Service to enforce after he changed the locks. didn't pay rent for a year. He said he, quote, tried to pay with a book of art made from his own feces. I don't know, man. I don't know what he does. I mean... I don't know. We'll see. And then he went from Venice, remember, to Malibu and he purchased one, well, leased one house on Malibu, but then they had to lease the next, the house next door to him for Secret Service. And I think that one, that one was like 25 something thousand a month, something crazy in Malibu, crazy amount of money. And of course, taxpayers have to pay for Secret Services. He could be living in New Hampshire. He could be living by where his family is, but he chooses not to for some reason. He just doesn't want to do it. And so... I don't know. Fascinating stuff. But this is where we're at with the first son. Can you imagine being that far back? No, I guess he's he wants to be forgiven of that, too. I don't know. We got a lot to discuss because we've got these. We also have more of the cabinet picks that were coming out. Some are better than others. And I think it's really important. Everyone talks about a really good game about holding Washington accountable. And it's really easy to say that when you're the underdog. It's really easy to say that I'm going to hold my side accountable when you're the one not in power. But then when the tables turn and you are in power, are you still committed to holding government accountable? That's the consistency. And part of that consistency factors into observing which of these picks are good and which of these cabinet picks are not so good. And that's one of the things that we're going to continue to be on all of this is consistent. Life can take a toll on our bodies. There's no way around it. And whether it's just sitting for hours on end at your computer or if you're working a physical job, over time, your body pays the price. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Alright, so, you know what it is? It's because, yeah, yeah, it's because it's this Augmentin is what it is. I'm like in my own little world right now, just chilling out, you know. You guys are like, Dana, what is my... This is what happens when your girl is on heavy-duty antibiotics. You guys don't know what you're going to get today. You have no clue what's going to happen with you today. Alright, so first and foremost, yes, I am going to talk about the more money. In fact, that's the story I was pulling up to get for you next segment. We gave more money to Ukraine over the weekend. You guys weren't aware of this because everybody was Thanksgiving-ing. Yes, that's right. I said it right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were Thanksgiving-ing. So that's why you didn't know that. But we're going to dive into that. Also, let's see here because everything decided to freeze. I'm just going to take this computer for Christmas and we're going to throw it up in the air and shoot it. I am. That's what's going to happen. Everything's just falling apart right now. So this... Is the Barbie pink Jaguar. The Jaguar's Barbie pink electric car that was linked online. This is going to have to be a whole other segment. First off, that looks like... That looks like marzipan. Like it's covered with marzipan. Am I wrong? It's weird. So that's... Remember the commercial that we were talking about last week? Jaguar? Well, this apparently... This is their pink electric car that leaked online. And we're going to have to have a serious... Talk to Jesus about this. This is horrific. They said it's it's drawing some comparisons. It's, you know, their concept. It's one of the things that they're thinking about putting out there. And they're just I don't think so. And this makes me really happy for this headline. NASA's detecting an asteroid collision. It's due to hit Earth's atmosphere in a matter of hours. It's a newly discovered asteroid on a collision. I hope it hits whatever factory is making that collision. Pepto-Bismol Barbie pink car. And it'll hit in just a matter of hours. The asteroid's called Kaui CP5. Sure. It's going to streak through the sky over eastern Siberia. Now. Right now. And they say it's a small space rocket. It's only 27 inches in diameter. So I'm really... What Juan is showing you is just greatly exaggerated. But... You know, it's the same thing. It could be. It could be. I'm still waiting for the big one. I think we're all still waiting for the big one. You know, that makes sense. Islamist terror incidents. have risen sharply. According to new legal measures in 2024, they said there were five foiled terrorist plots, two successful attacks as well, but that they're seeing these incidents one by one, whether it was a Jordanian citizen in Orlando charged with the destruction of an energy facility, the shooting of a Jewish man in Chicago, going to synagogue in October. which we talked about, or the Pakistani who was arrested in Canada after he was plotting to carry out a mass shooting in support of ISIS at a Jewish center in Brooklyn. So there are an absolute increase. Also, Russia's economy is in crisis as arms exports collapsed by over 90%. At least that's one new figure, 90%. We have a lot more in store. Stick with us because we got to talk about money to Ukraine, these cabinet picks and Hunter. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, All Family Pharmacy has you covered. Whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support or general well-being, All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine or any other effective medications they have it all and you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days medications start as low as three dollars per capsule making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank no insurance needed you can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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Welcome back to the program. You're a lovable curmudgeon. Dana Lash here with you at the bottom of this first hour. So really, really quick weird development in South Korea. They very quickly declared martial law and then voted it down. There's heard some crazy kind of dramatic things that were taking place there last. So their president had given a speech in which he had said. that the National Assembly had put the nation on brink of collapse, and then he was declaring that they needed a martial law to stabilize their nation. And he... was saying that he wanted to go after anti-state forces, normalize the country as soon as possible, etc. Now they can. The way that South Korea, their constitution, from what I've understood, operates is that the president can declare martial law if there's some extreme danger, if they're getting attacked or whatever. But his own party apparently was disagreeing with him. they were opposing him and they were going to push back against it and they said that they had opposition party members that were gathering at their assembly but they were not being allowed in it was kind of wild and then there was actual video of like you see some of this they're going into the building because they weren't actually allowed to go in they had to have the military help them the lawmakers were scuffling with them they voted to overturn the declaration and The military is standing down. So that's kind of weird. It looks like, I don't know, it looks like they're having kind of a constitutional crisis. So who knows? They said that there could be impeachment proceedings for him. That's just one of the latest things that we are watching. By the way, if you, you know, usually towards the end of the year, you have dictionaries that revise things, right? They revise, you know, words or they'll include new words or phrases into their catalogs of words, their dictionaries. Right, Kane? So I just happened to see, I don't, I really don't pay attention to this journalist, but I didn't realize that masks were still a thing. Like that's still a thing that people do, right? They have, they do. And this one reporter, she's that Taylor Lorenz chick. Man, hot mess. She's apparently was having a fit over, I guess it was, you know, her book release and all that. I didn't even know she had a book out and I don't think anybody cares that she has a book out, but she was having a book release party and she was trying to plan it. And apparently she was mad at everybody. And she said that planning a COVID safe book launch took months and thousands of my own dollars, ensuring testing outdoor space was, for far UV lights, a litany of other precautions. She goes, meanwhile, you blank blanks are out there, raw dog in the air and spewing, spewing your disease, Latin breath all over your elderly neighbors. We are not the same. I've got a lot of questions. First off, that's not how that phrase is used. And secondly, you know, you can just say breathing, you know, breathing works just as well. Makes Cain feel a lot better. Cause that's not what that means. I don't even know what that... She acts like you're always supposed to wear the mask on your face. Why is it a cold? It is a stupid cold. COVID is a cold. People need to stop freaking out. Stop it. Just don't even get upset. Don't freak out. It's a cold. Holy hell, I tested for COVID over Thanksgiving. I actually didn't mean to. It was an accident. Did you know how this happened? I'm totally fine. My strep throat was separate from my kid. So I went in and they were like, oh, we need to swab you for your because, you know, you get swabbed for strep throat, right? We're going to swab you for a strep throat. We're going to do it. Are you ready to get swabbed? And I'm like, sure. Yeah. So they swab my throat and then hands to sky because I never get swabbed for coronavirus. I just don't because it's a cold. It's stupid. Next thing I know, they had a Q-tip up my nose and I'm like, whoa, wait a minute. I did. And they were out. And then they came back and said, oh, you had tested positive. And I'm like, and I told, first off, my first, I think, response was, the blank I am, run it back or something like that. I don't remember exactly how I said it. But then, and the doctor was very nice and, you know, is pretty like-minded. It was like, look, it's a cold. Like, so what are you telling me? I got to quarantine and I got to do all this stuff. Is that what the people still do? And he goes, no one does that anymore. He's like, literally no one does. He said, it's a cold. And I'm like, I know that, but that's there. All colds are coronaviruses, but only one of these has the stigma. Right. I mean, only one of them has literally ended families and and caused great division in the nation. Right. Only one of them contributed to people getting suspended and silenced on social media. Right. I mean, hell, I almost been demonetized on YouTube for talking about it. So, yeah, only one of them carries a great penalty. So you can say all damn day that it's all all a coronavirus, but there's different. It's a difference. And I said almost all that. And he looked at me and he said, no, you don't need to. People aren't doing that anymore. He said it's not a thing that anybody's doing. He had added that, you know, you don't need to go and like a sconce yourself. He's like, most anybody gets is like maybe a slight cough or they're just tired. That's it. He's like, it's not at all like it used to be. And he was saying that what the incubation period and even the contagious period, period of contagiousness aren't even, he's like, they're not even the same duration. He's like, it's a completely different thing. He's like, so just know you're fine. You don't need to do anything different. I'm like, okay. So that was it. She's still freaking out about this. Still freaking out about it. It's a cold. And I don't know. I just don't... I can't imagine anyone being either accidentally or on purpose. I almost think it's on purpose at this point. That's stupid. Like I had to bring in all this other stuff. It's a virus. You're never going to kill the virus. Never going to happen. And then... So this... One other quick thing. Did you guys hear the story of the Ohio woman? Who... We had this, sorry, I saw this actually and I was going to put this somewhere else, but it fits perfect here. Remember the story, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, right? So the one broad who was caught legit eating a cat in the middle of the road, she's pled not guilty to one felony charge of animal cruelty, Alexis Farrell. So see, or Farrell, I don't know how every, I like Farrell better. Yeah. This story was never not true. It was never not true. So this woman pled guilty to one felony charge of animal cruelty. She was legit convicted for eating a cat in an August video when everyone was saying they're eating the cats and they're eating the dogs because that's true. This woman was on video. This was in the same town where they were talking about the people who were coming in illegally and kidnapping pets in that same area. So it was never not true. Hmm. I know all of the things that you guys were told, that you guys were told about. This is not how it always is. Ohio woman. That's just how they're going to refer to her. Can I just touch back on the coronavirus thing a little bit? Does anybody still actually get it anymore? I've had it before. And no, I've never gotten the government experimental injection because I have a thing called natural immunity. It really is not anything. I think you're just tired. My strep throat, which is separate, that I got was way worse. So why are people talking about needing to mask up and all that stupid stuff? Like, let's hurt our immune systems more and make it to where we're more susceptible to stuff. I kind of wouldn't encourage them in that thinking because it thins the herd, doesn't it? Does that mean to say? Because I mean, I'm being honest. It's true. It's just so goofy. People have got to stop this. They act like science was just invented. I don't know how colds work. I don't know how the body's immunity works. I don't know at all. Just have no idea. Crazy. Yeah, I can't stand. It was funny because when I went in for the strep throat. And they immediately like, well, can you put on a face mask? And I'm like, wait a minute. So my sinuses are already inflamed and I'm already struggling right now to breathe like a normal person. And you're telling me to put a completely ineffective piece of cloth over my face to make it more difficult for me to breathe, but do nothing to filter out the small, tiny nanoparticles that will still infect you regardless of whether or not I have a mask on. Is that what you're telling me? I literally said that. And they went, yes. Like it's just the policy. Seriously. That's so stupid. Remember when you had to stand so many spaces apart? I purposely would not. When you go through a TSA and they're like, can you stand here and get scanned? I always flick it off. Every time. It's the little things. And I never put my feet where they're supposed to be. Every time. Both hands. Both barrels. Don't sit here and tell me that's just bad behavior. I don't care. I literally don't care. I'm telling you because I don't care. It's true. It's the little things, Cain. Yeah. Fly with me. It's fun. We totally won't get pulled out or targeted at all. Wink.
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Tell you what. Wonderful.
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So I guess nobody had fights with their family over Thanksgiving, right?
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So wonderful. Get pulled down for posting this.
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Oh my gosh. Steve's already thinking ahead. He's already like, you know what? For all the YouTube baristas, I just wish I could take both of my feet and insert them sideways in your backside. And where are you like house shoes? Because you're that stupid. That's your only purpose. It's only your only purpose in life. Oh my gosh. So while all this was happening, the left has no idea what's happening. They're just freaking out. They have no idea what they're going to do come January. They haven't even cobbled together enough awareness to go through a proper electoral postmortem. And then in the meantime, you've got the administration, the new administration, POTUS-elect. So we have POTATUS and then we have POTUS-elect, who is getting everything situated, getting the transition team ready. And he's already said, if you're not going to release all the hostages, Hamas, by the time I get into office, there's going to be hell to pay. Well, that seems like there's a that's a pretty big ultimatum. Hamas has got a lot of questions asked. Would we like to pay hell or should we just release the hostages if there's any more of them alive? That's the other big thing. This this is what we're going to be diving into, including the latest picks. I know that some of them, including, I think, what Kash Patel for for FBI. I think he's in D.C. for meetings. Pam Bondi, who I'm not on board with because of her hardcore previous opposition to due process, that's one I'm actually not in favor of at all. The others, even some of the bad ones, I'm like, uh-uh. But the Bondi one, because of that's kind of, and then of course the guy, the other guy, we have to talk about the pick who was the guy who enforced lockdowns and was arresting pastors, the sheriff who was arresting pastors for holding services. We've got to get into all of that and more. So we have a lot of stuff to start with. We were just kind of covering stuff at 30,000 foot. We got to get into some of these domestic issues with these picks. And then some of what we're able to see already coming into shape from the administration regarding tariff, energy policy. For instance, now he's saying that he's going to, Trump has said that he would block U.S. Steel's acquisition by Nippon Steel. Free radio. It's Black Rifle Coffee, the best coffee that's out there. I'm having some right now. It's keeping me powered up. God love them. With Black Rifle Coffee, the Founding Fathers, Freedom Roast, that would have been their roast had they had a favorite roast. It would have been the Freedom Roast from Black Rifle Coffee. It's a smooth, medium roast. It tastes great. Look, it's good. Do you want to drink trash communist coffee? Or do you want to drink something that's been brought to fruition by a bunch of coffee dorks? There's no other way to put it. God love them. They're veterans. They have that military discipline. They have that that super hyper focus, and they were able to use all of that to make really great coffee. Freedom Roast is just one of the latest, smooth, full of flavor, and it has a very buttery finish. It's very good. And you can get 20% off using code Dana at BlackRifleCoffee.com. Freedom Roast is just one of the roasts that you can pick. Join the coffee club, and then have all of your stuff sent automated shipping. So you never have to worry about running out of coffee. And it's cheaper than anything, even the bougiest brands. And it's better than the bougiest brands you'll get in the store. All you have to do is go order at BlackRifleCoffee.com. Save 20% using code Dana. And check out the Freedom Roast, the latest from BlackRifleCoffee.com. Other top shelf roasts as well, just black, silencer smooth. Save 20% with code Dana at BlackRifleCoffee.com.
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I see you. I see you over there. I have a very quick statement. It's not going to be that quick. Pete Hedge Seth has denied any wrongdoing. His lawyer said he paid the woman in 2023 to head off the threat of a baseless lawsuit. No charges were ever brought.
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You rushed me for that. That's so awkward. That's so awkward and also hysterical. And I'm here for it. That's super funny. We were talking about this one. Is this the third or fourth time that she's had to say this?
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I think it's the fourth time.
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I think it is too. I thought there were three other times. Like every day.
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So, yeah, it's become, you know, what's so funny is hear how robotic it sounds whenever they are journalistic in their articulations. Whenever they're truthful, they're like, it's robot. I don't, I can't speak like that. Like, that's what they do. They lie naturally and they tell the truth so awkwardly.
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Yeah, it's so, it's all incredibly awkward. And I love that they keep making her do it. I have to read a statement now. And she just looks at the camera, has to say it. It's just funny. And she's not happy about it at all. But that's tough. I mean, that's, you know, tough beans. I just don't know what to say. Just tough beans with that one. But you can't just, you know, sit up. Whoopi Goldberg is just so straight-faced, like, okay, well, all right. Everyone sits there. No one helps her out. Nobody helps her out. They all sit there just, like, bumps on a log. Nobody wants to jump in there and help her. It's funny. You deserved it. You deserved it. It's true. We've got to talk about these cabinet picks, though, coming up. I know Pam Bondi, they were picking her. For DOJ. I've got a lot of reservations about that one, as you guys know. I made a lot of... And I still... That's the one I don't... That's one I do not... support. There are a couple I just absolutely do not support. And that's one of them because I can't, we already went through Merrick Garland. And I mean, if you have at all voiced opposition to the trans bathroom stuff, if you voiced opposition to sexually inappropriate material being paid for by taxpayers and provided in public elementary school libraries, and then you were attacked in that and labeled a domestic terrorist, if you raise issue about it, If you're against that kind of stuff, you're probably also going to be against anyone that would erode your fourth, fifth, what, 14th? I'm trying to think of all the amendments, a bunch of them. All the protections that they provide to or affirm for you as a citizen. And I don't care if they have an R after their name or not. I think I've made this very clear. My I have I don't care about having someone else's back. I care about having my back. I care about my known back and I care about what's best for me. And I don't want someone in the role of A.G., Who has endorsed and this goes beyond and this is such a cop out. People have said, well, Pam Bondi was just protecting the laws. It was written by the Florida state legislature. It said, no, she wasn't. She was advocating for before it ever passed. That's a lie. She was she was pushing it both in video with her own mouth. and with her own words on social media, promoting this kind of stuff. So my objection is I don't want anyone that is about diminishing our due process rights in an era where we have seen how easily weaponized these agencies are and how pathetic some of these lawmakers are when they get into these offices. I don't want this to become the norm because it will be used against you at some point. It'll be used against all of us. And you have to be accountable. You either support due process or you're not, and you don't get a break just because you say you have an R after your name. We're going to talk about this and more coming up. Stick with us.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. And we are at the top of this second hour here on this Tuesday, getting you all set up. and all kinds of good stuff. So we've been going over the... And by the way, you can get us at Substack too, Channel 347, DirecTV. We're going over the picks so far for Cabinet, and it looks like it's mostly fleshed out. There's some, obviously, that... I have said that I really like and some I don't like. One of the ones that I don't like is Pam Bondi, obviously for AG, because she's a big time supporter of red flag law. She enthusiastically advocated for not just represented as it was passed or written by the state legislature at the time, but she had advocated for diminishment of due process, which is something that extends to beyond firearms. It doesn't have anything to do with firearms at this point. If you think that the witch hunt, for instance, against Trump in Manhattan under Alvin Bragg was crazy and that he was not afforded due process, why would you support the same for AG? I mean, either you do or you don't. You Because of that, that's one that I very much don't support. The other one I don't support is this DEA. Why do we even have a DEA? This DEA pick. It's the Drug Enforcement Agency. It's much of a misnomer. They're not enforcing you to stay on the drugs, correct? I mean, I'm on drugs right now. No, not like those types of drugs. I'm on an antibiotic for strep throat. So I feel very friendly. I'm like, hey. Cain has no idea what's going to happen with the show. He was very scared last hour. But this is like, I guess, all the cocaine, all the, you know, the Hunter's Booger Sugar, right? That kind of stuff. That's the drug enforcement agency. Well, I don't know what I think about the DEA. Do you remember when they started the dare to keep kids off drugs thing? You guys remember that? I remember we had an assembly at my elementary school, Clyde Hamrick Elementary. And this was in Missouri. And they had a big dare to keep kids off drugs. And they brought the drug sniffing dogs out. And I was like thinking at the time. I think I was like in third or fourth grade. I was thinking, are the dogs here to entertain us or are they sniffing us out? Like, hey, kids, are you got drugs on you? I don't know. It just stuck out to me. And then remember when the Globetrotters, the Harlem Globetrotters did stuff with the DARE program? They would come out and they would do these exhibition matches and it was for DARE. It was kind of neat. I mean, you got out of class, got to watch some really good tricks with basketball and got to pet some dogs. It was great when you were a kid. I still had no idea what the hell they were about. I'm like, is this about drugs or something? Like, you want us to do them? I don't know. What is this about? Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because That is who has been picked for this position. DEA. Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister. Does his name sound familiar to you? Chad Chronister? So this was back... What year was this?
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2020.
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March of 2020. And... Hillsborough County, Florida. So different counties could issue different orders. It's how the state is run. And that's one of the reasons why they passed a lot. You had a DeSantis edict and then they passed a law saying that you couldn't shut this down. He had to fight these mayors and these county executives to over this stuff. for this exact reason. So Hillsborough County was one. They had issued an order back in March of 2020 demanding residents stay home except for essential services. You had to stay at home. And the pastor of a very large church there was saying, no, I'm not closing my doors. It's a church. At any time when people need to be at church or need church help, it's now. And Chad Chronister had that guy arrested. Because they didn't think... Now, while liquor stores are essential services, church services are not essential services. That's how he deemed it. So he went and Chronister said that he and his department had told this pastor... to close his church doors. Pastor Rodney Howard Brown closed his church doors, which was at Tampa Bay Church, and stopped having services. And then the police went to the church the next Sunday. The church held two services. People were in attendance. Conister blasted them. He said that the pastor has a reckless disregard for human life and all the people who are interacting with him are in danger. And they went in and they got mad. Chronister said the church held their services. They weren't six feet apart. And the church said that they took health precautions. People had gloves and they gave people hand sanitizers and they had masks and they stood in their family groups. That wasn't enough, though. Sheriff Chronister said that Pastor Howard Brown was reckless. I mean, he's accusing him of potentially murdering people. And this is a national emergency and all this stuff needs to be needs to be closed. And so he was arrested. And in fact, what Chronister and the state attorney said was that, quote, it's unfortunate that the pastor is hiding behind the First Amendment. This is who's picked to lead DEA. Are you kidding me? The guy who does this stuff? Holy hell, was Scott Israel unavailable for you? Jiminy Christmas. I mean, they're mad because they went after this pastor. This is crazy. So the sheriff, and by the way, this guy, the sheriff's wife is married to the woman whose dad owned the 49ers. So they're a well-to-do family. But this guy made it out like if you're one of those people who didn't stay home or went to church, then you're a murderer. That's how he made it sound like. Saying that this was not a protected, this is not an essential service. This is crazy. This is the guy that they want to have. Again, was Scott Israel unavailable for you? Good night. So this is the guy that they want to have head up DEA, which is already by itself a very controversial agency, I think. And to have arrested a pastor. And said the stuff that he did. I mean, this guy should be disqualified. Chad Chronister, this this guy should be absolutely disqualified for consideration for this post. I mean, even with the I mean, DEA shouldn't be. I don't even think that should be in existence. But this guy, this guy should be disqualified. So this is another pick that I completely oppose. I mean, he was one of those guys who was out there, oh, you guys need to be safer at home. Don't come out. Threatened this pastor with arrest before finally arresting him. And then Buck endorses what the state goes out and says, or the attorney for the county saying, well, you know, this pastor's hiding behind the First Amendment. I don't want anybody like this near any kind of position. Hell no to this guy. Again, was Scott Israel unavailable for you? Is that why this guy gets the pick? What the hell, people? Are you not mad enough about what happened to you that you're willing to entertain the selection of a guy who was arresting pastors who dared to have church services during the absolutely idiotic lockdown? Are we forgetting this? Did you forget how screwed up your kids got from having to be locked down from school? Or what about your friends or families or maybe even your own business that was ruined because of this stuff? Do you know how churches suffered? Everyone talks a great game about church services, but how many people were so willing to comply and not go into it? The whole damn world complied. We think that we're so much badass than we actually are. The whole damn world complied. That's what they found out. Honestly, our country deserves everything coming to it if we think selections like this are okay. I don't want to hear another damn person bitch about the lockdown. If you're not objecting to this guy, you forfeit objecting about lockdown and everything else. This guy was arresting pastors. He was going after innocent people because they wanted to go and worship. He was threatening people with their First Amendment. He was saying you can't hide behind your First Amendment. Acting like if you didn't follow all of these orders to a T, you're a murderer. We're going to seriously entertain this guy as a pick? We're not a serious nation and we deserve all hell coming to us if that's really where we're going. I don't like anyone enough to fluff him over acting like this is a good pick. Do you? This is an insult. This pick is a middle finger. No. No. So no, I agree with Massey. And of course, people, you shouldn't have to apologize for calling it like you see it. My God, are we Americans? Are we a bunch of pansy ass commies? I am so tired with having to apologize. Well, I'm going to have, if you are offended with me having a disagreement, my gosh, go and get your official vagina because you are one. Go and get your sex change operation. You deserve it. Tired of this stuff. I'm tired of having to catch every damn opinion I have with, oh, well, I hope, you know, I'm going to call it like, of course, we're going to call it like we see it. That's the reality of it. This pick is a joke. I guess some people had a real luxurious time during lockdown and they didn't suffer at all. And it was just kittens and sunshine for them. So stuff like this doesn't matter. But for the people who lost their businesses, for the kids who lost years of their lives, for people who had to die alone without their family by their side, for people who were forced to get experimental injections and without being warned of any of the adverse side effects, for the people who were shamed into it, who were called murderers, who had their characters assassinated, impugned. And for a lot of other people, it's a lot different. There is no room for anything like this. If it's about making America great, this ain't part of it. I don't care. I don't give a rat's ass. Somebody was like, well, Ron DeSantis. I don't care if Ron DeSantis backs this pick or not. I don't care. I don't. Nor should you. I don't fall on politicians and fawn all over them the way some people do. Some people who have microphones and better and responsibilities that they should remember. This is a bad pick. I mean, this election should have been a reckoning. You're not going to get a reckoning by having people who run really insidious departments like the DEA already questionable. Guys like this who are arresting people for free worship. Absolutely not. So, no, this is a crap pick. It is a middle finger salute to everything that you went through. It is not a serious pick. And you don't have to like it. And I'm not going to apologize for being so mad about it because it's a bad pick and we all went through hell and I think we're owed a little bit. ReadyWise is always ready even if you're not. 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All right. So first up, a rash of wild horses were shot, including one that I, one kind of stallion. I'm not even going to say it. All my horse people know. $35,000 award leading to the arrest of the people who did it. That's so bad. Oh, they said that, uh, they're Onaki, Onaki stallion. Is that what it's Western desert of Utah? Uh, I know that there's a lot of wild horses that are around that area, but they said that people were, uh, usually they just try to get photos of them, but apparently They said that since 2022, at least 60 wild horses and burros have been killed on public lands. It's continuing. I wonder how much of it is actually BLM, Bureau of Land Management. Kind of wonder. So they've got awards out now to try to figure out who's doing this. California can't use all of its solar power. Millions of dollars of electricity goes to waste because the infrastructure isn't in place to store or move all of the solar power. Meanwhile, everyone sees sky-high energy bills. That's true. They can't use all because they don't even they can't even have their solar plants operating at full capacity because they have no way of storing and transferring and doing all of this stuff. See, this people come up with these ideas. Let's have a solar farm. Let's all have solar. So great. And we're just going to do all this and we're not going to actually put anything else in place. We're not going to have any infrastructure to make this a doable thing. Huh, maybe we should have done that. You know how much they frittered away on the high-speed rail that nobody wanted from San Francisco to Los Angeles that nothing ever happened with? Yeah, they could have been doing, I don't know, working on this, but instead, no. The lost human species found in Asia, say scientists, it's called the big head people, the large head people. I don't know. They said, could another group of ancient humans have lived alongside Homo sapiens? What are you calling a Homo sapien? Scientists have identified fossils. I'm a Heterosapien, thank you. They found a new species of ancient humans that once roamed Eastern Asia with an extraordinarily large brain. So they call them the large head people. They said they live between 200,000, 160,000 years ago. I don't know. Maybe they just had a thing where they tied stuff on their head to elongate their skulls. And maybe that's what it was. Because, you know, there is there are those things, beauty rituals that have existed with some peoples throughout the human history. Just saying. I just get a Monty Python-esque kind of feel to this. Social drinkers on obesity drugs lose the taste for alcohol. Oh, my God. These are the people, I guess, that are doing the weight loss shots. They said that the people who are on WeGoV or Manjaro do not enjoy alcohol as much. They said a new study of Weight Watchers members who take obesity drugs found out that half of them cut back after they started the medication. I actually kind of wonder if it's a thing that they can use for alcoholism. That's an idea. Stick with us. We've got a lot more on the way. The folks who help bring you this program so you're not paying a subscription fee. Patriot Mobile is the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. And you can enjoy exceptional nationwide coverage in all three major networks. Switch to Patriot Mobile and support what matters. You can also get their Every Friday Matters special today. They're giving away a brand new smartphone when you make the switch. And it's super easy to do. Seamless switching with their 100% U.S.-based customer service team. They're going to make it easy. You can keep your number. Get a new one. It's all up to you. And you'll get that free smartphone as a part of the special offer. You have to use promo code FRIDAY to take advantage of it. It has never been simpler to switch and work with a company that supports you. So do it today. It's a free smartphone. Offers eligible only with promo code FRIDAY. This is a limited time offer or until the supplies run out. Terms and conditions apply. So make the switch. I did over a decade ago. You can make the switch today. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana 972 Patriot.
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Welcome back to the program. You can also find us, the chat's at Rumble, right? And then we're over at X as well. Kane was telling me about, there was a, what did they have, protests that broke out at the lighting of the Rockefeller tree? The tree in New York? Why were people protesting at a tree lighting? Were they protesting the tree?
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I think they were protesting the delivery of the tree.
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Are they all the anti-Semite terrorists? The pro-Hamas terrorists? Because usually those are the people. If there's an awkward protest somewhere, like the timing seems really bad, it's usually them.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'm just... I actually am dropping this in Slack right now so you can see the video. This was over the Thanksgiving weekend.
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We don't want no Christmas tree. Okay, well, then nobody cares. What do you think people are going to go, oh, those anti-Semite terrorists over there, they don't like our tree. Guess we're going to have to take it down. Oh, no.
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Aren't they being tree-phobic?
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They are being tree-phobic. Look at them all out there, picnic blankets and everything. It's almost, and then the one guy with the Russian fuzzy hat. And they got some Orthodox out there.
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It turns out they did it last year, too.
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They've done it every year. I don't know why it's such a hot thing to protest the tree.
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Didn't they burn it down?
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Yeah, that one guy tried.
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Was that last year or the year before that?
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One of them, I don't know.
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Yeah, it was recently. It all starts merging together. They went as far as burning down a 30-foot tree or something.
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They're like, end U.S. funding of... I agree, we should not fund terror, which is why all aid to Gaza should stop. It's the same... Good heavens. They're mad about the tree. You know, if you're going to protest anything, protest that hideous Jaguar car. Can we talk about this for a moment? I'm not over it. I really want, I want like the romantic era, like Mopar, all of that to come back. I want cars to look like cool cars and not... Dumb. All the EVs out there look the same with the exception, excuse me, of the Cybertruck, which is supposed to be brutalist. So Jaguar, you know, right on top of their great, I don't know what you call that, the ad campaign that they had, that hideous thing that they did where you didn't even know what it was about, if it was about a car. So they came out with the pink car. I don't know. It's a design vision concept. It was leaked ahead of its official release at Miami Art Week, per the Telegraph. The car, it's a Jaguar type 00 concept. And it demonstrates the company's desire to strike through convention. It looks like a stupid, completely not aerodynamic vehicle, right? They said that it's not going to be loved by everyone because it's fearlessly creative. That's what they said, that people aren't going to love it. And the reason that those people won't love it isn't because it looks like a giant pink brick and it's dumb, but it's because that they are these, you know, what they're trying to do is just simply break through conversation. And that's ultimately, that's what they're doing. It looks bad. They said, oh, it's controversial because it's so fearlessly creative, was what they literally said. I'm reading their statement. This is a taste of things to come. Well, then it looks like taste is going to be like feces. This is horrible. And then they had a hot pink. They had a blue model, like pastel colored. This looks so dumb. This couldn't clear a speed bump either. Cain, this is horrible. This is a horrible car. This is not aerodynamic. I'm sorry. It's clunky, chunky, and dumb.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, if that's fearless, I would probably request a little fear next time. Yeah. Their next idea.
SPEAKER 08 :
That car's not hot. It's an ugly car. Look at that. It's just a bad looking car.
SPEAKER 03 :
I wouldn't even buy that as a toy. Remember the Toys R Us? Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Why would you change a heritage brand like this? What do you think Jaguar, before this, what did you think of?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, just luxurious, sleek, chill.
SPEAKER 08 :
Top hats.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Smoking jackets.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
English countryside.
SPEAKER 03 :
Gentlemanly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yeah. Gentlemanly. That's, you know, the genteel nation. That's what I think everybody thought. This, I don't... I mean, they basically use Comic Sans as a font. And then they have this hideous pink block thing. I mean, it's bad. So they have them. I guess they made two concepts of it. It just looks bad. It's just so cringe. People were taking photos by it, but it just doesn't look very good. This is not a car I would drive. Steve, did you see these cars? Is this a car you would drive?
SPEAKER 13 :
I wouldn't necessarily drive a Jaguar that looked like that. I don't hate Jaguar.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know. It's like, why do they hate themselves? That's what this is. This is what you make if you hate yourself. And that color. If you were a chick and a dude drove up to pick you up in that car, no, bye. Oh yeah, I'm not going to lie. Chicks view that stuff as are you a provider or not? It is a measure of if you are a provider or not. Just like men can look at women and be like, are you going to be a lady or not? Like, are you going to be someone that I can, I mean, like it's give or take. This is the story's old. Everybody knows this. You'd pull up in a car like that. I'm going to think that you work at Victoria's Secrets or that you sell that makeup. What's that makeup that they all sell and they get that pink car? Mary Kay. That's a Mary Kay car. Jaguar went full Mary Kay with this edition.
SPEAKER 03 :
I almost said Avon.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it's the Mary Kay pink, isn't it?
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, don't check. No, I think you're right.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm positive. It's like that Edward Scissorhands kind of thing where Diane Weiss would go out and sell makeup.
SPEAKER 03 :
In a car that pink.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but I can't remember. Yeah, you get a pink Cadillac to the top. A Mary Kay car is a pink Cadillac that Mary Kay awards to its top performing independent beauty consultants and sales directors. Oh, so it's the Mary Kay car. Yeah, that's exactly what this is. Well, I don't know what the blue one is, but yeah, that's all. This is so.
SPEAKER 03 :
You just don't like fearless creativity. That's your problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, this thing is fugly.
SPEAKER 03 :
I had my hand over the dump button.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's a real word now.
SPEAKER 13 :
What if you were a woman driving it, though? Would that be okay?
SPEAKER 08 :
If you're a nana. Okay. If you're a grandmother on her way to the tea room to go and meet with the other dars there, then that's fine. Go ahead and you can.
SPEAKER 03 :
Most women in my life that I've known ever were better and more frugal spenders.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. What does this have to do with this Mary Kay monstrosity? That's an insult to Mary Kay, by the way. for me to call it that. I feel like I'm insulting the hardworking entrepreneurs that made Mary Kay possible.
SPEAKER 03 :
But why try so hard to get away from the gentlemanly, kind of manly image that was Jaguar, like 007, James Bond-y type masculinity? Why are they making that kind of masculinity toxic? I don't understand.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, it's not toxic. I don't even think they understand the toxicity is saying that gentlemanliness or chivalry is somehow toxic. This is like a feminist nightmare. I feel like I'm looking at a tampon commercial and not a Jaguar vehicle. We're going to drive this, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
I thought it was a Skittles commercial when I first saw it without the sound.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's the Mary Kay car. they they went full Mary Kay it's sad because they had such a great brand I mean you that I I don't know what they were I guess they were struggling because then it's on you that you're marketing you have such a great like you had a great brand you weren't able to to message it to market it and you do this instead Mary Kay already did it, like I said. A couple of other things. So the Hunter Biden case. Hmm. Isn't that nice? Hunter Biden can pretty much do, I guess, just about anything. And then he gets... He just gets a complete, you know, pat on the back and sent on his way. Isn't it? How interesting. The other... What gets me, though... It's just how lax and how wide sweeping the language was for this. And I wasn't the first or even the second person to point some of this out. You know, the language in the pardon itself. And Biden was asked about the pardon. Audio Sun by 11. Listen to this, because remember, he had said he wasn't going to do it. Listen. Claire McCaskill, audio sound by 12, said that she was mad that Joe Biden pardoned Hunter Biden because now she says this is giving ammunition to Republicans. Listen.
SPEAKER 06 :
Do I understand Joe Biden's pardon? Yes, completely. I get it. It's completely understandable. But the both sides folks out there have just gotten some really powerful ammunition. And for that reason, I hate it.
SPEAKER 08 :
So it gives ammunition to Republicans. That's why you don't like it. You don't like it because he lied to your party again. Of course, you knew it. But and also it just protected the family's cartel-esque grifting operations. They all knew it, just like they knew that he was just not going to be able to last through an election cycle. Democrats deserve all this and more. You knew this. I told you this was going to happen. But where does it stop? Audio Somebody 13. Jamal Bowman brings up this question. I mean, the fact that Hunter Biden's pardoned, but yet, you know, you've got people that are sitting in Rikers, like one of our friends sitting in Rikers right now. Totally innocent man. Listen to this. This is 13.
SPEAKER 15 :
Don't stop at Hunter Biden. Thank you. Pardon the 40 people who are on death row right now to get them off of death row. Number one. Number two, pardon the 3000 people who are in federal jail for trumped up marijuana charges. Pardon them as well so they can get back to their communities and contribute to their economies.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I don't think we're just going to start pardoning randomly people on death row like violent murderers and things like that. That's really you're going to deny justice to the people that they had murdered. And their families and let that's so stupid. Jamal Bowman is not the brightest. He's not the brightest bulb in the box. I don't even think he works. I think it's already a broken filament within his head. But no, if you're going to. That Hunter Biden gets it, and then you have the elderly women who were sent to jail because they were praying outside of an abortion clinic, and they were told that they were obstructing because they were praying outside. There's one elderly woman who's been sent to, what, 18 months in jail, prison time? They have to go to jail, but Hunter Biden... on gun charges, drug charges, tax evasion, all kinds of stuff. He's going to get just a widespread pardon, a wide birth excuse for everything. Democrats, they made this themselves. Our partners for this portion, the non-firearm firearm, the Burna gun, and that's exactly what it is. It's a non-firearm firearm. It actually can shoot chemical irritant projectiles that can stop threats from up to 50 feet away. It's a very powerful deterrent. And it's great to diversify what you have in terms of self-defense. I always will carry. I have zero issue with telling someone that I that, you know, that lethal force to protect yourself and your loved ones. I mean, that's the that's the point of self-defense. There are times when you're barred from carrying. And I would love to live in the kitten and sunshine world where I never have to go to a gun free zone. But I'm a grown woman and I have to do grown woman stuff like work and pay bills and go to places sometimes where guns are banned. I don't want to be a statistic because someone else lives in the fairy tale of that gun free zones work. So this is where Burna comes in. The Burna gun, again, it's legal in all 50 states. There's no background check. There's no waiting period. They ship it right to your door. And I know a lot of my friends that also have gotten this as another option for self-defense, especially when they have to go in some of these areas where they're barred from carrying their actual firearm. You can check out all the models that they have. The Burna SD is the most popular selling model. option that they have. They have many others. They also have different accessories, projectiles. And from now, well, from November 29th till December 2nd, rather, you can get 15% off site-wide on all Burna products. Visit Burna.com slash Dana for 15% off. That's B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana for 15% off.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm just trying to figure out what one. Well, let's do this one. All right. So this happened on Thanksgiving morning. And in this house, they carve more than just the turkey. Yeah. This is in Pensacola. A Florida man stabbed his ex-wife's new husband on Thanksgiving morning. in Escambia County. Gregory Grant, 72, was charged with attempted homicide. They said that the Grant, the guy who was, I guess, the perpetrator, was homeless, currently living with his ex-wife and her new husband, stabbed the new husband in the upper abdomen during an argument. The victim was transported to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. And yeah, they apparently had gotten into an argument and I don't know. And the guy who was stabbed said, I was trying to be a nice guy and help out a homeless person. And this is the appreciation I get. Yeah. I mean, again, the knives go in the turkey, not each other. That's how that works. A central Florida man. Lied about, he lied about his identity and he was arrested because he said he forgot who he was when he got caught lying about his identity. This is Polk County Sheriff's Office where this feller, this, he was arrested. And then when he was originally detained, he lied about his identity, slipped up while trying to keep it going. And 54, he's 54 now. Wow. Wow. Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wait, could he be lying about that too? I mean, he's lying about it.
SPEAKER 08 :
He's got to be lying about being 54. Anyway, Richard Hallmark of Winter Haven. That totally sounds like a Christmas movie from Hallmark. Bad one. They found a backpack in his car that had meth, all kinds of stuff in it. He said, no, that backpack is my brother's, Robert Hallmark. I don't believe his last name. I'm surprised he didn't go, of the Hallmark family. And... I can't deal with it. So according to Polk County Sheriff's Office, Pro Boxer George Foreman famously had five. This is an article had five sons with the same name. And then there were the brothers from the TV series New Heart. So it wasn't out of question that they could be. There could be brothers who were both named Robert Hallmark.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is my brother, Robert. My brother. Yeah. OK.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then finally, Richard admitted to the sergeant that his name was Richard and not Robert. And he lied about it because he had a worn out for his arrest. And the violation that was given in terms of violation for probation was, quote, conspiracy to deliver meth. He looks like it. I think meth ages you, right? That's methed up. Like you get real methed up on meth. Yeah, I think so. Let's see here. This. No, I'm not doing that one. That's disgusting. Oh. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I can't read this one, although it's really good. A woman drove her SUV into her baby daddy and a woman that he was in the middle of coitus with, right? Okay. A Broward woman who drove her SUV into her child's father and the woman that he was getting an owl with is facing battery charges. Like, no, I mean, he was in the act of doing it. Maybe she couldn't see because her eyelashes were so ridiculous. It looks like she just grabbed caterpillars and spiders legs and glued them to her upper lash line. Why? Stop it. That's not natural. Ain't nobody's got. You're not supposed to look like one of them yaks that have the flood. It's not how it's supposed to look. She was arrested in case you were wondering. Our third hour is on the way. We have a lot still to get to, including pics, Hunter, so much more culture. Stick with us. Welcome back. Top of this third hour. Dana Lash with you. Find us over at Substack as well. Chapter and verse. And you can also check us out on Rumble, Channel 347, DirecTV, all that good stuff. I want to show you this video. Imagine you are in the grocery store. And in this instance, it's a Walmart superstore. And you witness this in front of you as captured in video.
SPEAKER 04 :
Watch.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's this little girl. Who is the annoying broad who's going, you don't know what she's been through. Shut up. Tell me that you don't have kids without telling me you don't have kids. This woman, you don't know what she's, what the hell, why does anyone care what, it's not about what she's been through. It's about what she's doing right now, her illegal criminal behavior in the store right now. That's the issue. Where are her parents at? Everyone's like, don't touch her. Don't do this. This enables this behavior. You're not doing this kid a favor. Where's this kid's parents at? Why is she doing stuff like this in a store? You know, she's feeding off of all that. All those people who are going, don't touch her, don't touch her. She's feeding off all of that. And that's part of the reason why she keeps going. Everybody's watching me. Look what I can do. But this one woman who's got to be there, anytime anybody tries to intercede, that lady gets involved. Just shut up, you and your bell-bottom yoga pants, and walk right back into the bread aisle where you came from. Good night. I'd have beat my kid's ass if they'd done something like this in a store. So what do you do in this situation? What would you have done, Cain? You're in a super Walmart, Cain, or any of you out there. You come across this right in front of you. You're just trying to shop, you know, get your foodstuffs. What do you do?
SPEAKER 03 :
Wait, are we saying if that's my kid or if that's just a random?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, if that's just what you see. Everyone's like, don't touch her. She's throwing stuff. She's throwing glass.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it becomes dangerous at that point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. What if she throws a glass bottle at your head?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, not only that, but what if she's walking around on top of said glass?
SPEAKER 08 :
What liability is that creating for the store if anybody slips and falls on any of the stuff that she's thrown and breaking in the floor?
SPEAKER 03 :
Not to mention the actual loss of the products themselves.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Finally, there's a man who goes over and intervenes, but then you got busybody, rowdy woman who comes over there.
SPEAKER 03 :
just shut up i don't know like instinctually you'd want to grab the kid by the arm and pull him away from there yeah and give them a nice physical you know like oh a little jarring it's like oh what is this what's going on here not not an abuse not any sort of um you know litigatable pain and suffering this is literally just a little jolt that's what you're doing here is not what you need to be doing plus now it's dangerous and so what i know for sure i would have said something to that woman
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah, I would have said something to her, too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Without a doubt.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah, completely. I mean, you don't know what she's going through. That's not validation. That's not justification to destroy stuff and put other people in danger in a store.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you don't want to put hands on someone else's kid. You don't put hands on anybody else. You don't want to do that. The fact that she's putting people in that position is a problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think if people don't want their kids to get their ass beat from throwing around wine bottles in a store, then maybe they ought to do it themselves before other people will. That's kind of how I look at it. Because I'm going to tell you what, your kid throws a wine bottle at me, I will beat your kid's ass. I will be the parent that you failed to be. Absolutely. And then I will sue you for everything I can think of. And I will run you into deficit by occupying you in warfare as punishment for not parenting your child. And then your child will be taken and given to somebody who can raise your child better. So there's a whole process. I mean, that doesn't help the kid by, oh, don't touch her, encouraging this behavior. People are afraid to parent anymore. Isn't that wild? At one point, does anybody in that video go, where are her mom and dad? I mean, where are her parents? I mean, she comes off as an entitled brat. It doesn't look like she's on hard times or nothing. She's dressed nice. It looks like she's clean and fed. You know, I don't know. But they're like, oh, you don't know what she's going through. You can't intervene. That's not justification for any of it. A lot of people go through a lot of hard stuff. And I think it's insulting and it's weak to blame your circumstances for acting like that in public. There's no excuse for it. There's none. Absolutely none. You don't just get to destroy stuff in a store. And I don't know where her I kept trying to look and see. I don't know. I couldn't identify whether or not she had a parent there in the store. I mean, how would your mom just be or your dad just be watching you do this stuff? I don't know. But that's, you know, don't don't touch her. Oh, you don't know what she's been through. Well, what about all the other people there that are just trying to shop? What about what they've been through? You know, they've all been through stuff, too. They don't want to be subjected to this stuff. They don't want to have stuff thrown at them. They don't want to watch this kid. I mean, what, you're giving them room to destroy store product and throw around bottles of juice? It's crazy. I mean, I don't know. They... This is the kid knows that she was that she's pushing boundaries in this video, clearly, which is why she's she's doing it. And all these people that are standing there like don't do anything. She knows that she's got the upper hand because everyone's terrified to do anything. And then what happens when she's allowed to destroy this stuff as a kid? What happens when she turns 18 and she tries this? Huh? Who gets the blame then? for her going to jail for property destruction or assault or something of that nature, then who gets the blame? You know, it could have been prevented. I mean, I don't know. The woman who's like, don't touch her, don't touch her. She's part of the problem too. She also needs to have her A-double snakes beat. She's part of the problem also. This kid needs to be in a juvie ward. I mean, the worker's standing there doing nothing. You know, nothing that all the workers that are just sitting there looking at her. The man steps in and finally restrains her. The man, you got all these do nothing women standing there. And then the man has to step in and restrain the child. And then you've got that mouthy broad that comes in. Shut up. Now, who's going to pay for all the destruction? Who's going to pay? Who's going to pay for that? Who pays extra for cleaning up the broken glass? I mean, that's entitlement. You're destroying something that other people are expected to clean up while pretending that you're the victim. Man, this kid's already been failed clearly by their parents. This kid's just a bad kid. She's a bad kid. And then the woman who was like, don't touch her. Is she paying for all this? I didn't see that broad running her mouth. I didn't see her getting down on her hands and knees to clean up the mess that this kid was making. Did you? I didn't see her getting down to, I didn't see her taking out her purse to get some money out of her wallet to pay for everything that was destroyed.
SPEAKER 03 :
And what's even more upsetting is that now it's completely reversed. They'll call the cops on parents that are actually implementing discipline and won't on parents who let their kids do what we just saw in that video.
SPEAKER 08 :
I never acted out in a store like this because my mother would have murdered me. And my kids didn't do this. My kids only acted up one time in public. One time. That's all it took. And I did the one, two, three count. And I think they remember it to this day. Because the youngest was being real... The oldest was being real... Wasn't listening too well, being kind of dangerous, climbing up and jumping up too high. And I'm like, he's going to break his legs off. Wasn't listening. And then kept running around because the playground we were at, it was separated by a really low stone wall and you could just climb right over it and go out into the road. Youngest kept trying to go on the other side of the wall. I'm like, you have a whole playground over here. Why are you attracted to the street? Stop it. And I told him once, I was like, I'm going to give you a count. This is one. And I tell you again, and you don't come in. When I get to three, that's it. We're going. It's like, whatever. Didn't listen again. Gave him a warning. Counted. I said, one, still didn't come back over the wall. Wanted to go and play in the street. Two, got to three, went, picked him up, screaming, hollering. It was like I was murdering him or skinning a cat or something. Got him and his younger brother in the car and we left. That was the, oh my gosh, it was just like, you know. a bomb went off, a bomb of screaming and shrieking. But it was the only time I ever had to count. And I was able to use the one, two, three thing literally up until they were like 16. So actually, I probably could still do it today. Come to think of it, because not only did I put him in a car, but I whooped his ass right there, whooped him, put him in the car. Let's go. Oh, my gosh. It's about to follow through. I literally never had to do it again. Ever. It was a magical thing. I'm like, one? That was it. Everyone was like, oh my gosh, she's at one. Stopped. This kid? Jeez. This is part of the problem. I still, can I just, I'm going to move on, but the other thing that gets me are the workers. They're women, too. I've noticed it. There's the there's only one what there's there's one man who's kind of comes up towards the end, but he's holding something. He was shopping and then a dad. You could tell that's a dad. The dad comes, but not her dad. It is a dad comes in immediately when she's throwing glass and he stops her. Kids like this who do not get their behavior corrected become problems for society. They grew up to be Hunter Biden. That's what happens. They grow up to be Hunter Biden. Speaking of which, have you guys seen the Bidens? Have you seen the Christmas decorations that Jill Biden put up? They didn't have big fanfare about it this time, did they? Let me pull this link up. So, yeah. So apparently it was Jill Biden that was the one who was convincing the family about to convincing Joe to do the pardon, to pardon Hunter. And she apparently, I was reading a story yesterday, she led the family campaign to pressure him to do it. Although I really don't think that, to me, it seems like I don't really think that they needed a lot of pressure, right? That's something that I don't really think they needed a lot of pressure on. But in addition, when I was reading this piece, let me pull this story up. My link is broken. Did you guys see their Christmas decorations? They were circus decorations. They were, it's being described as fitting, her Christmas decorations. One of them is a literal actual circus, like in the room. And pull this up. I mean, it is like a literal circus decorations. The last holiday, the last Christmas they're having at the White House, they have circus decorations. I can't think of anything more fitting than this. Right? They did circus decorations. I don't know, man. I mean... It is. Yeah, it looks intentional, doesn't it? And it also is kind of just tacky. I don't like it. I like the more traditional stuff. I don't like this kind of stuff. But I just want to say, I don't think that they do this. Remember, they're not doing the stockings on the fireplace like they were.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you think merry-go-rounds when you think Christmas?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I don't know. And why is the tree in the bars? It's like jailed in the circus merry-go-round. I don't understand this. If you're looking at the simulcast on Channel 347 or X or Rumble, if you're looking at Juan showing you, that's part of the decorations. Why does it look like the Christmas tree is prisoner in a merry-go-round? Why? Why? Isn't that weird? I'm not trying to be picky. See, they got mad at Melania Trump. Her decorations were great. She would not have done some like jumbled up mess like that.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So, I told you the Ohio woman who was charged with killing and eating a cat because that was happening, she did plead guilty to one felony count of animal cruelty. She did plead guilty. So, that story was true. I just want everyone to know that. Gay couples are rushing to marry and have kids before Trump's inauguration. Why? This is so stupid. Why? Like, he literally never did anything. Why? Yeah, and he didn't. Look, that's one of the reasons why some of the evangelical sect got mad at him over some of this stuff. You know what? You're going to have a crappy wedding, and you're going to have a horrible reception, and you're going to have bad music and a bad DJ because you're rushing because you're a turd. Stop it. So stupid. Nobody cares. Do what you're going to do in your private life and leave the rest of us the hell alone. Right? Some of us got baking to do and I'm high on Augmentin right now. The antibiotic. I have to tell people this because people are like, you seem really cheery today. No, I don't. I'm spacey. Now I feel like I got to be meaner. I feel like everybody thinks I'm nice today. And it's just, I don't know. Harvey Weinstein was rushed to the hospital over... Doesn't he have like... What did he have? Leukemia. That's right. Blood cancer. Does anybody care? No. Let's see. A man suffered a chemical burn that lasted for months after squeezing limes. Hold up. Hold up. Wait a minute. They... I did not know this. You could actually do this with limes. This guy, like it took him two hands, two days for everything to go back to normal. Lime juice and sunlight. So he had squeezed a dozen limes. He went to an outdoor soccer game and didn't apply sunscreen. And then when he came back, he had a rash all over his hands exactly where he had the lime juice was. And they were saying that it was Phytophotodermatitis. It was in the New England Journal of Medicine. And that a number of plants, they can, it might not be toxic right when you're working with it, but when you combine that with the UV light, then it can become that. I actually have heard of this before. That's why, but they were saying sweet orange, lemon, lime, carrots, celery even. Crazy. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. That's crazy. Celery?
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SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome back to the program. Little B-52s as we come in. Dana Lash here with you, bottom of this third hour. And again, apologies for not being with you yesterday. Your girl was face down on her sofa with strep throat and kind of hallucinating from the antibiotic. And then they told me earlier that I had Rona, but I'm over it. And I know it was an accidental swab. They were so fast with that. And I don't know. I'm fine. The strep is worse than anything. That's always so I'm good. Like we wanted to get back to this point where we're all here. So if I'm a little off, that's I'm on like a mound of stuff. Kane, why did they make them horse pill size? Why?
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It's good for you.
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Anyway, so it's good. I was getting real fidgety. And you know how when you're you're under the weather and you're fidgety and you feel when I'm not here, I feel like I'm missing stuff. And that feeling is best described as the feeling that you would get as a little kid when you were made to go to bed at like a family party. And all the adults, you could still hear them up having fun. That's what I feel like when I'm not on air. And I'm like, everybody's out. And I'm like, you know, forced to convalesce at home. It's horrible. Anyway, so it's good to be back with you. The we've been discussing the off and on, like the picks and a couple of the bad ones, the Hunter Biden part and Politico's headline that they had yesterday. This was last night at 830 last night. The headline Republicans pounce on Biden pardoning his son Hunter. And they try to make it like, well, Joe's just being a good dad. If Joe was a good dad, Hunter wouldn't need a pardon. If Joe was the good dad, Hunter would not be in a position to require a pardon. And Joe just enables him with a pardon. Well, actually, it's not about enabling Hunter. He's not acting to save Hunter. He's acting, Joe's acting to protect his own backside. But again, it doesn't really seem like that he's, I just don't see how you can dismiss Hunter Or, I mean, for crimes that have not even been articulated and have not even been manifest into charges yet. I don't know. So the special counsel said that, well, you had David Weiss and others who were saying, yeah, that's okay. You can't just dismiss it. They were, because this includes the federal tax charges as well. That's the case based in California that really covers Joe Biden and his brother and a lot of the family because they were all involved in this. Remember, all the family had access to like, what is it, 13 different accounts under like however many shell companies. But David Wise, who's the special counsel, was saying that, no, he filed a document objecting to the attorney's, dismissing the case now that he's been pardoned. He said that that that's not how that works. You're you're you can't you're not just you can't just dismiss it and not have a not. I mean, you could still technically have a charge for this. Washington Times noted that His claim, he was saying that it wasn't politically motivated, even though Joe Biden was arguing that it was motivated. And he said that there was never he says that there was never any evidence of vindictive or selective prosecution in this case. And he said it's a baseless claim. And he said that neither the president nor his son have offered credible evidence that politics played a role in the prosecutions. The gall to assert that the prosecution of Hunter Biden is somehow politically based is pretty asinine. Oh, they're all politically motivated. That's why. It's not political motivation at all. And the fact that you can have a gun charge like this just be dismissed outright. But yet you have Carbon Mike sitting on Rikers because his daddy isn't Joe Biden. So it's still it doesn't mean that his charges are going to go away. just because he said that it was because of some improper motive. And Weiss was saying that that was a false accusation. He said that the government doesn't challenge that the defendant has not been a recipient of an act of mercy. It does not mean the grand jury's decision to charge him, Weiss wrote, based on finding a probable cause should be wiped away as though it never occurred. So he's saying that this is not absolving Biden of guilt or saying that the prosecution was flawed. And they said that they, I mean, I'm sure he's seen it now, but as of yesterday, he hadn't seen the charging document or the pardon document yet. They want to get off scot-free. They do. The problem with this, and I was talking to a couple of friends of mine through messages and emails, the lack of accountability is what frustrates everybody. And especially knowing that this family was involved in so many things. I mean, think of all the stuff with Ukraine and, you know, not to talk about just Hunter stuff with the gun charges and, and the tax evasion in California. I mean, I mean, cause you now have what Mayorkas wants to have. He wants to be immune from any potential investigations from the Trump administration. So now apparently all these people are hitting Biden up for pardons too. They also would like, they would like some protection. But with if they're not being prosecuted, they can't invoke the fifth, can they? There's a really interesting piece. I think it was like News One or something that had it asking whether or not Biden lost his Fifth Amendment rights with his pardon. Hunter Biden questioning whether or not Hunter Biden could be compelled to testify against his dad because the Fifth Amendment rights are now inapplicable. He has the rights for state charges, but he doesn't have the rights. Huh? Interesting. That's an interesting concept. So technically, you could still be subject to perjury charges, right? Yeah. Might be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hmm. Yeah. So they he can pardon prior crimes, but you don't get to get out of jail free card. And that's what a lot of people were classifying that that pardon language was. But, yeah, if he's if he is no longer. I mean, if he's without the charges, you can't really invoke the fifth. So did he. So he lost that ability to refuse to testify then. From anything that was going between 2014 to 2024. Huh. Interesting. Huh. Interesting here how that works, isn't it? You think anything's going to come of it? I would like to see accountability. But I don't want Trump to go soft on them and like how Hillary was never, nothing ever happened with Hillary. I don't want to see it again. I do not want to see it again. This was one of the most politically vengeful administrations ever. There's got to be some kind of accountability. I mean, he shouldn't have to worry about it. He should not have to worry about satisfying anything for another term. He should be able to just do it. And just, you know what? I'm going to use my last term. We're going to have some accountability here. Let's open further investigations. Let's compel Hunter to come in. Now, Lorraine reminds that Joe was already adjudicated because he was actually considered unfit for trial, remember? So he was already not able to stand trial because he's cheese-brained. So that's, you know, it's an interesting, very interesting turn of events. And his gun case... That gun case in Delaware was terminated after that pardon. The U.S. District Judge, Nori Akin, Lorraine has some of the stuff over at Substack as well, had presided over the case, said that all proceedings in this case are hereby terminated, citing the really wild evidence. kind of open-ended nature of the pardon, which covers everything over a decade. But the judge didn't dismiss it just fully, just didn't dismiss it outright. But it was terminated. Imagine having that Biden privilege Unbelievable. Daily The Daily Show or Jon Stewart was slamming Biden over it and mocking Democrats for defending it. I really do you care? Does that really does that really mean something that Jon Stewart was criticizing it? Because these were all the people who were so careful not to criticize, for instance, Biden's dementia. The fact that he clearly wasn't all there or he wasn't able to move very well or that he wasn't able to perform his duties. And he was getting things very, very publicly embarrassingly wrong in very public high pressure situations. And they lied to you and they accommodated it and they turned it into a disaster. Those are the same people that lied to you or same people who lied to you over the laptop. And said that the laptop, well, it's not a real thing. Apparently it was so real they had to grant Hunter Biden a pardon for all the stuff that was on it. It was that real. And now they're going to act like, well, the pardon, can you believe how white? They're just trying to do this to save face. Never forget that the people who ran excuses for this family, they're only doing this now to save face. They don't. They don't. That's it. They need to find some way to maintain relevancy going for the next four years. These people on the left and they they don't have a champion that they can get around on the left that they can rally around. They don't have a party leader. They don't have any of this. So. Hmm. People like Jon Stewart, they're going to try to anything that they can do to stay somewhat relevant. So I don't when I hear these soundbites, when I when I read these, I don't take them seriously. Nobody will leave this. I don't know. KJP, Audio Summit 4, she was talking about how Hunter was so singled out. Listen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Trump has likened this to the case of the so-called January 6thers, the people who are in prison because of their role in January 6th. What do you think of that argument? And do you think that that's a fair parallel that he believes he shouldn't think?
SPEAKER 05 :
Today I'm going to talk about the pardon. We've been very clear about January 6th. The president has been clear about that. He's spoken to that many times before. What we believe in this particular case Is what is unprecedented is the way that his son was singled out.
SPEAKER 08 :
He wasn't singled out. He was protected. He wasn't singled out. He singled himself out. I mean, with his reckless behavior. Oh, he was singled out. No, no, no. Trump was singled out. They haven't tried to go after Junior. They were actually singled out. Hunter Biden made himself a liability because of his boozing and his whoring and his drugging. That's what he did. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. I'll be on Fox Business tonight in the 5 p.m. hour and then up later on on Fox with Laura Ingram in the 8 p.m. Central. It's all Central. Central time. Hour. So always should be good. And... I'll keep you apprised on that on Facebook. So if you're not on Facebook, follow us and all that. Speaking of Facebook, I know that Zuckerberg was meeting with POTUS elect. There should be no anything for Mark Zuckerberg until all of this stuff, all of the targeting of conservatives stop. All of the suppression, the algorithm penalty, the punitive algorithms, all of that needs to stop before Zuckerberg is granted any kind of seat at any kind of table or allowed to input anything. It just it has to stop. Has to stop. Biden announced a billion dollars to African nations to rebuild homes hit by natural disasters there in Africa. Is Africa in South Carolina? No, it's not North Carolina either. Or North Carolina. Is Africa anywhere near that last hurricane path that went through? No.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, sure not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hurricane Helene? Oh, yeah. Not in Helene's path? No. So we're going to build... Rebuild homes there, but not here. Okay. Really glad that we paid our tax debt. What did they get, $600? Conditionally, that they had to pay that? Yeah. But hey, a billion dollars for African nations. This is right after more money to Ukraine.
SPEAKER 1 :
$750.
SPEAKER 08 :
What about people in Maui?
SPEAKER 03 :
Same there, $750. One-time $750 payment.
SPEAKER 08 :
Curious. I mean, there's a lot. I mean, you have the Maui fires. You have Hurricane Helene. I read a story. People in North Carolina are going to be struggling to heat their homes as it gets colder. They're struggling to heat their homes because the infrastructure has not been reestablished, and they're having a really hard time. Having to heat their struggling now, they're going to be struggling to heat their homes. But hey, this is OK. Apparently with Biden, it's all right. A billion dollars. I am. I cannot wait until he's out of office. I can't wait until I mean, if we can. There's a lot that can happen. We've got a few weeks here, folks. There's a lot that could happen still is the scary thing. But for this much money, just right. And to be able to do this, knowing that so many people still in this part, he doesn't care because you don't need it for election anymore. Doesn't need them for elections anymore. So it doesn't matter. Everything's going to he's just going to be talking about his. He's only going to be concerned with his legacy at this point. On top of that, here's the other story that I'm trying to pull up. Have you guys seen what is the size of the here it is. So we've had a number of caravans. Two caravans full of people who have already entered Mexico illegally and they're coming to enter the United States illegally. Two caravans that are coming up through Mexico. We're going to talk more about this tomorrow. Some of them have been offered transit papers allowing them to travel across Mexico for 20 days. We'll have this tomorrow. Today in Stupidity, Cain.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, just keep in mind, 363 Americans were convicted of tax evasion in 2023 alone, with the median amount being like $350,000 or something like that. Hunter, $1.4 million in tax evaded and nothing. Anyway, this is Biden giving money to Africa.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, that's the right thing for the wealthiest nation in the world to do. And today, I'm announcing over $1 billion in new humanitarian support for Africans displaced from homes by historic droughts and food insecurity.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so, I don't even know what to say about that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You can't. You can't say anything else. We're almost, guys, we just got to make it to January. Just got to make it to January. Hang in there. I'll be back up behind the mic with you tomorrow.
Could the United States add a 51st state? President Donald Trump jokingly told Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that his country should consider becoming the 51st state if he won't improve the U.S. trade deficit with Canada or stop the influx of illegal immigration across the northern border. The Sekulow team discusses Trump's threat of imposing tariffs on Canada and Mexico to improve border security, Trump's economic policies, the ACLJ's latest legal victory, U.S. foreign policy, the fallout of President Joe Biden pardoning Hunter Biden – and much more.
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As Trump takes control, he tells Trudeau, maybe Canada should become the 51st state.
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SPEAKER 05 :
And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. This is Logan Sekulow. Will Haynes is joining us in studio, executive producer of this broadcast. We also have joining us a little bit later in the show, Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem, Christy Campagnone, one of our senior counsels, as well as Mike Pompeo, who will be joining us, breaking down all the breaking news. But also, it's Giving Tuesday. And Giving Tuesday is one of the most important days of the year for anyone who has a nonprofit organization. If you don't know about it, which I know most of you do by now, it is sort of the Black Friday equivalent for nonprofits. And we're doing a special thing right now. All your donations are doubled. We are in that faith and freedom year-end drive. But it is Giving Tuesday. And historically, you all have turned up at the right time. And you've done it. We've seen the numbers. So I'm going to encourage you right now, right off the bat, if you can support the ACLJ. We're going to get into the breaking news. We're going to get into the conversation. But I am going to remind you. to please support the organization when you can we are in such high level meetings we are having so much going on and one of the things that's happening right now is president trump and i have to give it to him for this uh he is playing an interesting game in terms of the way his social media presence has been where it is and even his presence where there's almost um a level of comedy to it in a way that has felt like it has brought them the the vitriol down, the tone down, even when he's still saying on Thanksgiving, you know, the leftists and all that, because it's almost done in a way that feels very tongue in cheek. He put up a funny video where it was Christmas vacation and the car from the bird with all of the Democrats. And he popped out doing the Trump dance at the YMCA. There is a comedy element that's happening right now. What I think you all need to understand is while I believe that that is a good way to go and being strong still like he is with Israel. We're talking about that later on. You can't forget that these fights aren't over because whoever is in the White House. We have so many ACLJ things happening and we're going to have a big one, a big win, one you've been hearing about for years. You're going to hear about that one coming up in just a few segments. So stay tuned for that. If you were just joining us and you saw the headline where it says Trump takes control, is Canada to become a U.S. state? Well, that was because Justin Trudeau flew down to Mar-a-Lago already making waves because obviously Trump put out the statement that they're going to tariff them uh to smithereens essentially all the countries and all the world leaders now feel like they got to fly to mar-a-lago and uh you know do the kiss the ring tour if you will as rosie o'donnell would call it uh i think it's what she said that joe and mika did they went down and they kissed the ring and how dare they i'll never watch msnbc again uh but that happened and in that meeting a very interesting tidbit came out
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. So they were talking about these tariffs because President Trump is threatening 25 percent tariffs on both Canada and Mexico. And in this discussion at Mar-a-Lago with Justin Trudeau, the prime minister of Canada, Trump told him that, you know, Canada has failed the United States being a neighbor by allowing their border to be porous. We've heard that from Claudia Tenney, representative for New York, that They have a big issue with the border in New York from Canada with similar issues. People going to Canada and then illegally entering the United States or smuggling things like drugs and other illegal activities.
SPEAKER 05 :
We hear a lot about the southern border, but there is stuff happening.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And so President Trump said fix it or 25% tariffs day one.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which is wild.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. I mean, it's a hefty thing. There's going to be some interesting responses to all of that. But Justin Trudeau said, listen, if you do that. Our country can't survive. That will cripple Canada. To which President Trump responded with, basically, if you can't handle it, maybe you should become the 51st state. And don't worry, you can run for governor there. I know prime minister is a better title, but you could be Governor Trudeau of America's 51st state. He's already... putting things forward that are America first and not just doing what the past four years have happened of quiet diplomacy.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's being funny but strong. Right. Because obviously we don't want Canada to be the 51st state. One, I mean the electoral votes they would get probably just from population. We'd have to figure something out. We'd have to figure something out. Maybe they don't get... Yeah, that kind of representation. It could be a commonwealth. Yeah, exactly. We'll put them in with the others. They're like, oh yeah, we own that too. We're going to be taking your calls also at 1-800-684-3110. Mike Pompeo joins us in the next segment and support the work of the ACLJ now. Welcome back to Seculo. Mike Pompeo is joining us today on the phone. So, Mike, I wanted to break down some of the more recent headlines that have come out. We heard about the Trudeau meeting where tariffs took center stage with President Trump or President-elect Trump. Do you think we've successfully sent that message now that there's a new sheriff in town when even you have threats? I mean, kind of in jest of Canada becoming the 51st state if they don't like what we have to present.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think it's absolutely the case that the whole world is unnoticed that what's been happening for the last four years, weakness, folks walking all over America, wars breaking out in different places. You saw the president's statement about the hostages. We still have Americans being held in the Middle East today. I think every one of these cases, the president is signaling that. that it's going to be back to where we were four years ago when President Trump was in office previously, where there's serious American leadership that will protect American interests, that will do the right thing for the American people. And when we do that, we'll have great partners and friends around the world. I think that's very clear. And I do, in fact, think you see foreign leaders and frankly, not just their leaders, people all across the world saying, hey, this is refreshing. This is different. struggle to figure their way through it. But I think they will all recognize that this will be a very different American leadership team than the one that they've been walking all over. And frankly, with respect to the wars, advancing their own interest at American costs with almost no cost to their country.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mr. Secretary, the fact that these meetings are happening, the world leaders are going to Mar-a-Lago and meeting with President Trump and discussing really some of the campaign promises of President Trump about putting America first and how that would affect these foreign nations. If President Trump can get these leaders on board, whether it be through the tough tool of tariffs or if they decide to play ball and fix things like the poorest southern and northern border that is at center stage in many of these discussions. If this can happen, and there's almost a Reagan-esque Iranian hostage moment for President Trump, where all the work is going forward in these discussions, and then when he takes office, we immediately see big reversals of the Biden policy. Where do you think that lands us in the world and looking forward to the future?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I think you've got it exactly right. I think you'll see big, big shifts. I think you'll see big shifts very quickly. Frankly, I think you've seen many of them already. I think you see Putin already reacting to the new leadership in the United States, trying to figure out how to gain leverage in the conversation. I think you see Hezbollah saying, you know, maybe it's best if we just sign up for a ceasefire deal before President Trump takes office. Hamas saying, hey, maybe this is in our best interest. Iranians saying, you know, we can have it. I think I think this is already ongoing. I think these these shifts are already taking place, much like we saw the hostages returned on President Reagan's first day. It wouldn't surprise me about what we see more things like that. And then I give you one other thought. That's also something that I think presents real risk for what do we have? Forty days, 45 days before President Trump takes office. You know, who's the commander in chief today? Who's actually structuring America's responses to global threats as we sit here for what is another month and a half? And we should be mindful that the fellow with the nuclear codes, the fellow who's still running the U.S. bureaucracy is Joe Biden. And President Trump's doing his level best to get a running start, but that we still have a period here where he's not in complete control of what happens.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Mr. Secretary, you mentioned the hostages in Hamas just a moment ago. And we've had some tragic news that one of the Americans that was believed to be a hostage was actually killed on October 7th. The IDF released that yesterday. But we also saw a hostage proof of life, if you will, video that was released from Hamas with one of the hostages, Eden Alexander. And... In that video, he even was making pleas to the incoming president of the United States to get these hostages home and secure their freedom. And there's kind of a stark difference between what we saw with dueling statements out yesterday after this video came out. One was from President Trump. that was very strongly worded on True Social in saying that there will be hell to pay if the hostages are not released before he gets into office on January 20th. But we saw from the White House, from the National Security Council spokesperson, he said the hostage video released today of American Israeli citizen Idan Alexander is a cruel reminder of Hamas's terror against citizens of multiple countries, including our own. I don't think that there could be a more stark difference between the weakness of the statement from the Biden administration and the strength of President Trump's. But just the fact that they even have to say it's a cruel reminder instead of being forceful in saying, we won't take this anymore. I think there's a lot of hope that comes in the way that President Trump will conduct foreign policy, especially with Hamas and the hostages that they still hold.
SPEAKER 05 :
We have lost Secretary Pompeo. We'll try to reconnect with him here in a moment. This is a great time, though. Oh, here you are.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sorry. I'm sorry. So you couldn't see a starker difference in the two statements. I agree completely. But both are true. It is a cruel reminder. And it's also true that there will be hell to pay when President Trump is in office. I think those statements are both true. But your point is exactly right. The deterrence model, the thing that actually keeps Americans safe and keep us from having to send the 82nd Airborne and our soldiers all over the world is a deterrence model. And when the President Trump executed effectively and you saw that difference in those two statements, one is one of, oh, my gosh, there's nothing we can do. These guys are bad actors and they're still holding American society. Everyone's saying it. I'm going to take action to fix this problem. I think that is an important distinction. I think it will lead to much greater deterrence and a lot more safety for the American people when President Trump takes office on January 20th.
SPEAKER 05 :
Secretary Pompeo, before we let you go, I did want to take a moment because this is Giving Tuesday, a very important day for all of us in the nonprofit world. As today, a lot of people decide to give their year-end giving during Giving Tuesday. We currently have a Faith and Freedom Year-end drive happening right now where donations are doubled. And you have seen firsthand, not only been a part of our team now for three or four years now, you've seen firsthand the work of the ACLJ and what it can do even inside administrations. I know a lot of people see, hey, Trump presidency is here, Senate and the House. What do we have to be fighting for? We know the fight does not even slow down. In some ways, come January 20th, it gets even harder.
SPEAKER 03 :
Logan, that is absolutely true statement. The work now begins, the work for the conservative movement and the work for the ACLJ. And I saw this when I was a secretary of state. I saw it when I was a CIA director as well. I saw the remarkable thought leadership. I saw the litigation that took place around the world, helping keep Americans free, protecting religious freedom. honoring our founding ideas. The work that was done was so valuable. It costs real money to do that. And I am so appreciative and was so appreciative when I was in government service of the work that you all at the ACLJ did. And it has been pretty special, pretty cool to be a small part of that for the last few years. And so I hope folks will continue to help the ACLJ be successful at delivering on the things that we care about for ourselves and for our families in America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you so much, Secretary Pompeo, for joining us again. Go to ACLJ.org and make that donation today. You know, it is Giving Tuesday, the biggest charitable giving day of the year, and it couldn't come at a more important time, as he was saying. Have your gift doubled today at ACLJ.org. We've been expanding our efforts as the radical left. It goes after faith and freedom and family. And they may have lost at the ballot box. And that's a pretty big referendum. But they are still entrenched across the countries. There's still plenty of places where this is happening. We're going to have a big win that you're going to hear about in the next segment. I'm excited. You've heard about this case for years now. We've been working at it. And it has come to a successful conclusion. And you know what's strange? This is just the truth. When we do these fundraising drives, I'll talk to my team and say, okay, what are people reacting to? And one of the sort of sad realities is when you have a big win, the fundraising to continue to fight and represent the next person sometimes is harder. It's easier to see the threat than to see the victories. But God is moving in a very interesting way right now here at the ACLJ. And we are making some big, big moves that I'd be so excited to share with you later this month and early next year into the first quarter of next year. And we can't do that without financial support. It is Giving Tuesday. It's a crucial time. It's one of our biggest days of the year. If you want to defend Israel, if you want to defend pro-life values, you want to defend your Christian faith, We are doing that right now for so many people, and it could be you who needs it next. And you want to make sure that we're here. So have your tax deductible gift doubled before our midnight Giving Tuesday deadline right now. Go to ACLJ.org. Scan the QR code that's on the screen. Well, in the next segment, we are going to bring on one of our attorneys here at the ACLJ, Christy Campagnone, who you've all heard many times. She's in our Washington, D.C. office today. Because we have a fun resolution. You know, sometimes... The law or whatever happens works in your favor, and I don't want to give away too much, but you've heard about this one. It's probably going to be in the video you're about to see if you're watching online, I have a feeling.
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we'll be right back with her uh but well it's just important time that's right and as you mentioned this is a case that we have been engaged in for multiple years so you've heard about it many times on the broadcast but that doesn't mean when you weren't hearing about it that our attorneys weren't working diligently fighting for justice for our clients and for americans to live out their faith, to live out their freedom. And that is what we saw. After years of fighting, we have a victory that we'll announce in this next segment. But it is because of the ACLJ members and supporters that we can fight for those years to bring justice for our client. Faith and Freedom year-end drive is going on now. Donate today, ACLJ.org.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to Seculo. Christy Campagnone, Senior Managing Counsel with the ACLJ, is joining us. And if you were just watching, which I encourage you all should watch, we do a full television-style broadcast. You can find it on YouTube, on Rumble, on ACLJ.org, and on the Salem News Channel. We're there as well. There may be some news coming up for that coming up in the new year as well. So make sure you stay tuned for that. But in those breaks... If you're watching on one of the streaming platforms, you got to see a video leading up to how we got involved in this case, Christy. And I think you need to kind of back everybody up a little bit because it is nice when the ACLJ can put things to bed, can finish and say, we have completed this assignment and it has happened. It has happened in a great way, but let's back it up. Give us a brief background on this case and how we got involved.
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Absolutely. So as you saw in this clip, we had a 15-year-old minor required to read a monologue in her acting class that contained explicit sexual material. And once her parent found out that this happened, she was absolutely appalled and actually went first to the school board meeting and And her microphone was turned off because of the curse words that were used in that explicit material while she was trying to raise the alarm as to what happened to her daughter. So naturally, they went ahead to pursue a lawsuit. And we came in after her local council initially started the complaint. And we helped amend the complaint to survive the motion to dismiss. And I think the big, wonderful victory came after we had a hard fight during discovery, which is where we took depositions of all of the administrators of that school. And of course, we're pleased to announce that we were able to get a victory for our client in She received a monetary settlement fund, and she also is going to have teaching and training for the teachers at this school to make sure that this never happens again. And it was all as a result of the depositions where we were able to get admissions from the administrators that this material was absolutely inappropriate and should have never been in the classroom.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Christy, I think that that's an important part of this as well, is that this is a victory. But our attorneys that have been working for a long time, I mean, the school board meeting where the mother spoke was two and a half years ago. And we've been telling our audience about it for a very long time as well. But this victory wasn't all of a sudden, the school board got a demand letter like sometimes we send and they're like, oh, or the school administration said, let's fix this, this isn't right. And then it went to the lawsuit phase and it wasn't like, ah, maybe now they're serious, we'll walk away. But it took our attorneys going out there and you joined us from Nevada on a broadcast where you had just completed a deposition. You've been doing depositions the day before with our team of attorneys out there. And it took that that level of getting to discovery, which many people in many lawsuits try to avoid that phase. even beyond the trial phase because of how invasive and intense a deposition can be in that discovery process. But that, when we got there and got those depositions, is what finally made this district realize, you know what? We don't need to go to trial. We're on a losing course here. We need to find a way out of this and settle with this client.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. So we had the school realizing, OK, we've had at least three of our administrators admit to several of the elements that we would have to prove in court that the material had no pedagogical interest, meaning there was no reason that it should have been found in a classroom. They also found that one of the administrators admitted that even if there had been parental consent, it still should have not had a place in the classroom. So, I mean, we're talking beyond just the books where we require parents to sign permission slips to read. This material did not have an educational interest and should have never been in their schools. So once we have those admissions coming from their administrators, they realized, OK, we're going to not want to fight this in court anymore.
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time in the country where this is what is happening, where you have such a sensitive culture and it really is a very sensitive culture. But when you actually call these things out and making kids do this type of material in high school, by the way, I teach a screen acting course in university level. And I have way stricter rules than this. I have wild rules because of the way we are right now. And by the way, I'm all for that. I want everyone to feel comfortable. I'm not going in there and make anyone uncomfortable. This is on a high school level. This is happening. Like that is wild. And we were able to get in there and stop this. And what I do like about this, and I think our audience needs to know this, Christy, is though you hear settlement and I think your mind goes to, So for some people, they may go, OK, they just it's not really a victory. It's a settlement. And a lot of times people think of a settlement as something that happens very quickly. It happens when no one wants to go to court. But this was not that process. Went to court, took years of time, took all the effort, the travel, the money that's being spent, the money that has to be raised to then be able to be spent for the ACLJ. Because, again, of course, this mother and her family did not pay a dollar for our representation and for our work.
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I think it's really important for the clients, the fact that it's in their best interest to wrap this up and get justice for their child, but to not have this draw out for years and years and years. And like you've mentioned, we've already been in this for two years. And so I think it's a victory for them in that the school paid up. I mean, the school had to pay. There is going to be training for those teachers. This is getting national attention. And now the spotlight is on this school to make sure that this never happens again. And then I think most importantly, and this is key, is that even when you have a settlement, you still have created precedent so that if this happens to any other student, they can now pull this case and say, look. These are the facts. This is what happened in this case. And the school had to pay. So my my child needs to be protected because this was inappropriate. And we have it on the record as precedent in the courts now that the school had to pay for this kind of action.
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Yeah. Christy, thank you so much for joining us and going through this because it is a very important time. This is Giving Tuesday. So what that means is that is the biggest charitable giving day of the year for a lot of people. This is the big promotional day. Obviously, a lot of you wait until the end of the year, post-Christmas bonus, that kind of thing happens. But we encourage you right now, it is one of our biggest days of the year. And it historically has been since Giving Tuesday kind of was founded. So I encourage you right now, if you hear the work that Christy is doing and her team, amazing work for people because now this is settled, doesn't mean those kind of fights don't come in each and every day. Every day we're going through the intake, legal intake. If you go to aclj.org slash help, you fill out a form, a very simple form. If it's within the scope of what we do here, you get assigned to attorney for absolutely free for you. But someone does have to pay those attorneys. Someone does have to pay for that travel. And thankfully, There are thousands of people like you who are watching this or listening to this today who either decided to become an ACLJ champion, that's someone that gives on a monthly level, or someone that can make a big one-time-a-year single donation. We are built on the backbone of people giving $50, $70, $40. So don't think if you give that your impact is not doing anything. All donations are doubled right now. Whatever you can give, there is an ACLJ champion. There's a fund there that's ready to be unlocked right now. Because as I said, it is not just the occasion where one is complete. Like I said, it is hard for us sometimes to fundraise on victories, but understand that a victory means that also frees up these lawyers to spend more time on the next one. And that next one is probably coming today because that's just how it works, especially around Christmas time. And we know this. I know it feels like it's old news, the sort of quote unquote war on Christmas, But you are shocked at how many things we get, how many legal queries we get every year from people who want to put up a nativity scene, who want to sing Oh Holy Night at their event and are getting told no. And we're going to be there for them as well and take care of that. And maybe that's you. And if it is, go to our website right now. We've got a second half hour coming up. We're going to be joined by Jeff Balabana, ACLJ Jerusalem. And again, I can't encourage you more. Right now, do it. ACLJ.org. We'll be right back.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow.
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And now your host, Logan Secular. This is Logan Secular. Will Haines is joining us in studio. Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem is going to be joining us a little bit later to talk about President Trump's response to the hostage situation still happening over 400 days, close to 500 days, in Israel right now, where American hostages, sadly, it's reported that one of them that was believed to be alive has passed away and was murdered on October 7th. But that doesn't mean we have to give up hope because there are proof of life videos that are coming out. We're going to discuss that a little bit later. You just heard about a big victory in the ACLJ. And look, you may say, Logan, I've heard your big victories before. Sometimes they're for the president of the United States. Well, yeah, sometimes they are. But sometimes they're for a mom. They're for a mom and their daughter. Daughter, by the way, mom and daughter, by the way, of a deployed, you may say, where's the dad in this situation? A deployed service member. We were there and we worked for two years to make sure this was finished. They got paid. It's nice. And they got some guarantees that teachers would all be taught, reassigned. But trust me, as I said before, I've taught some of these classes before. Those are no joke. You got to sit there all day and be taught about what you have to do and can and can't do. And it's shocking that they didn't have that to begin with. But the ACLJ stepped in for free. and helped out and we secured a big victory. I love hearing those stories. It's easy to forget about the good that happens. And right now, when we are in sort of this season of Christmas and it does feel good and the world feels like it's turning around a little bit, we need to remember there are still fights happening each and every day. And I don't mean to scare you. And I don't mean to do some sort of clickbait situation where I'm telling you need to do something right now because there's an emergency. It is an incredibly important time. The ACLJ is fighting at the highest levels right now. And then we are taking over the media wherever we can. And we are making those waves. And we're going to continue to do that. And we're going to continue to do that in brand new ways. Ways that contracts are being signed right now. And I'm excited to share that information when I can with you. Because there's going to be some great new things in 2025. But none of those happen without you. Go to ACLJ.org right now. It is Giving Tuesday. If you are tuning in, Right now, and you saw the headline, which was, as Trump takes control, will Canada become a U.S. state? You may say, Logan, that does sound like clickbait. Oddly enough, it's not. President Trump has, in some ways, I don't want to say threatened, but at least, you know, thrown it out there saying, if you don't like what I'm doing here... you leave this long-haired country boy alone. If you don't like the way we're living here in America, where he says we're going to tariff you if you don't stop the drug trafficking that's coming in and all the issues that are coming in from our northern border.
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And the trade deficit as well, which is a very large problem with our neighbor to the north. And this, while, yes, it was in jest, but it makes world leaders uneasy because that's not what you're expecting to hear from the president-elect of, fine, if you can't handle it, Just become 51st state. We'll take care of you. But I love the strength that he shows. I love that he puts world leaders off their guard after four years with a Biden presidency, not knowing what he was saying many times. Now you have someone who throws you off your guard, is a strong leader. but also is, like you said, able to do things in jest in some ways that people don't necessarily know if it's a joke or not. But what we didn't get was this Trump for a long time in the first presidency because of the Russia hoax and the Mueller. If this is his leadership style and it can continue without all the distractions, I think we're in for a much brighter America First agenda.
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He always talked about, you know, you'll throw stuff out there and if they believe it 10% that you may do it, it's enough to change the world. And that's kind of paraphrasing, but it's true. Phone lines are open. I'd love to hear from you as well at 1-800-684-3110. And if you're watching on YouTube right now, I encourage you to hit that thumbs up, hit that subscribe. And if you put in a comment, I'm reading them right now. Thank you for all the kind words that came in during the last segment. And thank you again. We can't do any of this without you here at the ACLJ. If you don't have anything to say, just put in where you're watching from. I love to look at that. People watch this show all over the world. The world. It's amazing. So put that in. And if you want to send in those clowns, that's okay. Send them on in. We'll be right back with Jeff Balaban at ACLJ Jerusalem. Welcome back to Secular. We are joined by Jeff Balaban, head of ACLJ Jerusalem. And Jeff, there's been actually a lot of movement happening in the state of Israel right now and all the situations happening with even the American hostages. Sadly, one was confirmed to be deceased. However, there have been some proof of life videos that come out. There have been a lot of movement as President Trump has started to make some pretty bold declarations. And this is why even, I think it's important, it's Giving Tuesday here in the States. This is why it's important there is an ACLJ Jerusalem. This is why we're there. Because these are the moments where tides can be turned.
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Absolutely. Look, we, and we talk about this often here, Logan, this is not the Israel Center for Law and Justice. This is the American Center for Law and Justice in Israel. And we are known for our access in Washington, our understanding of Washington. I mean, just look at the people who we have on staff with us. people who know intimately how Washington works. And this is so important because in Israel, it really lives in a very treacherous neighborhood. It's like the forward outpost of our Western civilization. Something which, by the way, President Trump said a few months ago. He said that the United States and Israel represent the pinnacle of Western civilization. He says that's what these people want to destroy. So he understands it with great clarity. And they look to us the leaders in Israel, many of them, look to us to understand what's going on in America, what to anticipate either way this election would have come out. And now, with this statement, Donald Trump has made another bold and very clear statement. By the way, a simple moral statement about who America is going to stand with going forward, because America has not really been standing with the hostages, hasn't really been protecting even the American hostages. America has not really been standing with Israel. America has been pressuring Israel and trying to use this horrific attack against the Jewish state as a way to try and force the creation of a terrorist state. And they've been, you know, they keep on promoting the Gaza Health Ministry, which we know is a Hamas operation. Their lies, their liables about what Israel is doing. And here comes President Trump, and he is saying it's an entirely new ballgame here. And now everyone's scrambling to understand what the future holds. And that's one of the reasons we're there. It's a major reason we're there.
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Jeff, that video that Hamas released of an American hostage. He was born in New Jersey and he went to Israel and joined the IDF. 19 years old when he was taken on October 7th. They put this video out. It's a propaganda video. We're not showing the video because it is a propaganda video. But his message was clear because he spoke to President-elect Trump saying, help bring us home, help secure our freedom. And I think the reaction from the two statements, it's dueling statements, as I've called it, between what the National Security Council's spokesperson of the current White House said and what President Trump had to say. The statement from the White House said, the hostage video released today of American Israeli citizen, Idan Alexander, is a cruel reminder of Hamas's terror against citizens of multiple countries, including our own. And then you contrast that language, which is very soft. And yes, it is a cruel reminder, but the White House shouldn't need cruel reminders that Americans are still held over a year by Hamas, a terrorist organization. But President Trump... mentions there's all talk and no action and says, if the hostages are not released prior to January 20th, 2025, the date that I proudly assume office as president of the United States, there will be all hell to pay in the Middle East and for those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against humanity. There's so much hope in that statement to me that instead of just a year and a half of talk from an administration that is weak, has diminished America on the world stage, and has let the terrorists run wild while hamstringing our greatest ally in the region. I see so much hope in what can happen in a Trump presidency in just a few weeks.
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Absolutely. Look, there's a terrible danger zone over the next few weeks when people are waiting to see what kind of damage the outgoing administration might do to Israel, either directly or diplomatically at the UN, etc. We know they did it when Obama-Biden were on the way out. They did terrible damage at the UN, and there's a lot of fear what they might do now. But The big picture is that, you're right, the tone here, William, is exactly the opposite. It's not the sort of middle of the road, yeah, terrorism is bad, but we're not going to do anything about it. And by the way, it's against a backdrop of a year and a half almost of statements essentially equating Israel to... to Hamas on a regular basis, accusing them of literal blood libels. You know, the ancient historical, you know, you have an excuse for why you have to eat the Jews. Now there's an excuse why you have to eat the Jewish state. Literal lies about a false humanitarian problem in Gaza, false stories about starving in Gaza, none of which are true. Israel's sending in over a billion pounds of food. Israel's sending in massive aid, which, by the way, I personally don't think they should be doing. They're doing it anyway because they're an incredibly, incredibly decent, even to their enemies, even to these horrible enemies. But Donald Trump is making it very clear there is no moral equivalence. The good guys and the bad guys in America going forward will stand with the good guys and against the bad guys. That message, I believe, is resounding with the good guys, not just in Israel, with the bad guys, not just in Gaza, but around the globe.
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And I think you're seeing that change. When you have moments like President Biden walking out of a bookstore in Nantucket on Black Friday, and he's holding the Hundred Years War on Palestine, a history of settler colonialism and resistance, one of really the the bedrocks of this movement of this sadly anti-israel movement in a photo op making those statements like you said sometimes it's not direct but sometimes it's indirect and i saw an interesting comment now i don't agree with this because as you know i don't necessarily lean to the more liberal side but i saw this from one of the um jewish zionist accounts that i follow and they put out a quote and sort of a meme that said i'm not sure how i will ever forgive the democratic party for making me choose between my zionist jewish identity and my liberal values And I thought that was a pretty stark reminder of how things are changing.
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Yeah, there's no question. This has become a real moment, a crossroads for a lot of Americans. And for Jewish Americans, there's, and people who, especially not just Jews, who relate especially to Israel and see and understand Israel's greatness and the unique bonds, not just the material alliances and the strategic alliances, but the true spiritual bonds between the United States of America and the state of Israel, the people of Israel, people will see that, recognize that they have to make a real choice now. And so there are a lot of people who are really confronting this. Others, by the way, I've seen things even more bizarre where people are saying, well, that's it, I'm moving to England. And I'm thinking, I'm talking about Jews who are on the left. You're going to move to England, you do not see what's going on in the streets there. But the vast majority of people are recognizing that this past year plus has shown a true difference between not just the parties, but the mentalities that are driving them. And so while the future holds both promises, also peril, I mean, Israel needs to take advantage of this as well. And Israel needs to understand how Americans work and how deep the support is among the true supporters and not just the people who spend their time gaslighting. And that's also an important role that we play to help them while we're there, understand the nature and trend. Remember Israel is all in all said and done. It's, In the news a lot, it's a small country. It's a small country and they're not America. And they have to deal with the entire world. And they don't really always get to see the true heart of those Americans who do support them, the most important alliances in the world. And that's really an important role that ACLJ Jerusalem plays to help them understand it.
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And that's where I want to wrap up with you, Jeff. It is Giving Tuesday, again, one of those most important times. And I want you to explain why, you said it a little bit earlier as well, but why ACLJ Jerusalem exists, why we need to be there, why we need to have a presence there, and why do we need to have a presence on behalf of Americans? Sure, we can be there. We always had a presence there. A lot of great organizations, a lot of great Christian ministries have always had a place in Israel, and even some that take on that more, you'd say, Israeli moniker and made that. We have that with the ECLJ, European Center. We have all these others. But when we moved into Jerusalem, we decided it was going to be a different point of view because we need to show the Jewish people in Israel and all the people in Israel, not just Jewish people, that we are there for them on behalf of the American people.
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Absolutely. And we did. You're right. We covered during the segment some of the things that we're doing in Jerusalem. But I want to say there's another fact to this also. And we've talked about this a lot internally. You know, there's a whole generation that's been brought up with these horrible lies, these libels about Israel as an oppressor, even this notion of the settler occupier. This is Jewish land. Even by international law, Israel actually has rights to sovereignty. There is no other nationality that has a right to sovereignty there. Israel allowed some kind of a negotiation, and that was picked up by the world, and all of a sudden they've inverted reality as though Israel and the Jews are occupiers in Judea. Well, We have such an important role also in America of explaining to Jews and to Christians that this is not the case, that the history is that this is the Jewish homeland and the Jewish national was divided up. Most of it was given to the Arabs. That became Jordan. But this land and the future of this land must be protected to preserve the one space that is supposed to try and protect and preserve Jews around the world. And so the role we have is not just in Israel, but it's in America also to convey from Israel, because we're there on the ground, what the situation is to Americans. And I think it's another aspect of what ACLJ does and what you do on the broadcast all the time. It's critical for the next generation to understand the truth.
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That's right. If you want to help defend Israel and support ACLJ Jerusalem, easy way to do it. Today is Giving Tuesday. All donations are doubled and matched by an incredible ACLJ donor or champion. Right now, scan the QR code or go to ACLJ.org. We're going to take your calls in the next segment. We've got a bunch of lines open. 1-800-684-3110. Call in. Welcome back to Secular. As I said, we have some phone lines open. We haven't done a lot of big pushes for phones today, but we do have some lines open. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Before we wrap up the Israel discussion, I did want to... Will, you had something you wanted to bring up, and I have one also. Both from the New York Times. So yours is more interesting tidbit. More positive, yeah. And mine is more New York Times-y, as you'd expect.
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Well, yeah, we can't say something positive coming out of the New York Times without showing the real New York Times. Right, it's the fairness doctrine, right?
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All the news that's fit to print. But this is pretty interesting.
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Yeah, so this is from an article that came out on Thanksgiving Day. So it largely got overlooked. Probably poor timing for that author, that journalist that did this work. But the headline is from the New York Times. With Trump returning and Hezbollah weakened, Iran strikes a conciliatory tone. If you'll remember, just for a little bit of background, remember Iran, after the attacks on the Hezbollah leadership, launched all those ballistic missiles at Israel. Israel responded with airstrikes within Iran, and everyone was expecting in late October, early November, for Iran to once again retaliate. This is what the New York Times reporting discovered on this. All the recent diplomacy talking about the shift in the tone in Iran marks a sharp change in tone from late October when Iran was preparing to launch a large retaliatory attack on Israel with a deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps warning, we have never left an aggression unanswered in 40 years. Iran's swing from tough talk to more conciliatory tone in just a few weeks' time has its roots in developments at home and abroad. Five Iranian officials, one of them a Revolutionary Guard member and two former officials, said the decision to recalibrate... was prompted by Mr. Trump winning the November 5th election with concerns about an unpredictable leader who in his first term pursued a policy of maximum pressure on Iran. So once again, you're seeing what could have continued to escalate into full war between Israel and Iran because Iran has never left an aggression unanswered in 40 years, decided to not launch an attack in early November on Israel, Because Donald Trump won the election in the United States. I think that's a powerful testament to the leadership and the security and the peace that can come through his strong leadership. Just by winning the election, Iran decided now's not the time.
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Yeah, pretty big statement. And hopefully that means we're going to see a lot of shifts in the world stage. I think you can feel it. I think you can feel this sort of difference in the air, if you will. I mean, I feel it even here in the States, especially with the overwhelming victory by President Trump and even the Electoral College and the popular vote. I think that shut up a lot of people. that we're not going to put up with all of this continually. It's not just going to be one side gets to control the media. That's why we're here at the ACLJ. We get to do this show and other outlets to make sure one side isn't just heard. And then another thing from the New York Times I wanted to bring up, and again, I got to give a shout out to my friend, John Androsik from Five for Fighting. He posted this yesterday. He said, honest question for New York Times subscribers. Are you comfortable funding a platform like this? And this was the headline yesterday. that came out and it's pretty innocuous at first. This is obviously on the, uh, the, the death of Omar, the, uh, hostage in Gaza, who was believed to be alive American hostage. And this is their headline. American thought to be alive in Gaza was killed on October 7th. Uh, and actually that was an adjusted one. The original one was American thought to be in live in Gaza died, uh, On October 7th. So they went and adjusted it from died to killed. And of course, they didn't also put in there that he was held hostage by Hamas and was murdered and his body was abducted.
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It has that feeling of when the Washington Post did the obituary for al-Baghdadi, the ISIS leader, and called him an austere religious scholar. Their headline is so dry and benign that it's misleading. It should have said, a man believed to be held hostage by Hamas was murdered on October 7th, and they just can't bring themselves to tell the truth about what happened. So they mislead, and it's unethical, honestly. It is absolutely unethical. It violates the Society of Professional Journalism's guidelines for ethics in journalism because the headline is so vague that it doesn't tell the true story.
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Right, and I mean, truth has just been thrown out the window at this point. We know that from these publications. And honestly, I never would have seen this if it wasn't for the fact that I follow alternate news sites that then commentate on it, or I follow someone like John Adrasek, who I encourage you to follow from Five for Fighting, one of the biggest supporters of Israel in Hollywood. So do that. Let's go ahead and take a phone call. Annabelle's calling in California on line four. You're on the air.
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Hi, very grateful champion reporting for duty. We must never let the countless deaths as a shamelessly direct fallout of the president administration's policies at our border, enriching Iran to fund Hamas, to slaughter Israelis, and likewise Putin to invade Ukraine, be in vain. We chose our general and President Trump. Now we're called upon to be soldiers in the battle, legislatively, constitutionally, protect life and liberty, the very hallmarks, of the ACLJ for decades. There's no substitute for the incalculable and far-reaching aid they provide to attain these goals. Please invest your dollars in our nation by coming alongside of me and others and become an ACLJ champion. God bless America, Israel, the unborn, President Trump, and the ACLJ.
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Thank you so much, Annabelle. And I want to clarify, you know, Annabelle calls in a lot. She makes these really powerful statements. We don't know Annabelle. Annabelle just calls in. She's an ACLJ champion who has these amazing things to say. We want to make sure when we can that we can give her that opportunity. And any of you, if you want to call in with those kind of messages, know that makes us feel good. It makes us want to stay in the fight as well. Because there are, you know, there have been specifically over the last couple of years, there have been some dark, dark times. But because of people like you, ACLJ supporters, ACLJ champions, and look, I see a lot of you commenting and something like, man, they're doing a lot of fundraising today. It's Giving Tuesday. It's one of the biggest days of the year. I am sorry. We're going to be doing some fundraising today because it is very important. And your donations are doubled right now because we're part of the Faith and Freedom year-end drive. As we head into the Christmas holiday, which can you believe is right around the corner, we know that things get crazy and get hectic. And maybe you don't know if you're going to be able to be by a computer to donate or on your phone. You may not be getting those emails. You may be getting so many emails from so many people that we're getting lost in the shuffle. Well, I encourage you to give that donation right now at aclj.org. And like I said, I don't mean to just be a tease here and not tell you what's happening, but we have some really groundbreaking things happening within the organization and within this broadcast specifically that I am so thrilled to be sharing over the next month or two. Some of it will be by the end of the year. Some of it will be first quarter. But none of that happens overnight. without your financial support. We don't have big sponsors funding this show. If you listen on the radio and you hear local advertisers in your market, that does not go to us. That's just the truth. It doesn't. It goes to the local station or whoever the deal is. So when you hear those, that's not from us. That's why when you watch online, the commercials you see are for our projects. So go to ACLJ.org and support the work now. And hey, if you're looking for something free to do, I'm just going to give you this little plug for myself here. Our Christmas movie we released last year, Jingle Smells, which we released on Rumble, is now available. It's a Christmas comedy that really supports your values and your kind of messaging. And it's hilarious. I love it. I did co-write it with my friend Bart Scott, who writes a lot of our great content here. Will's in it as well. Will's got a great character. I'm briefly in it. You can hear my voice a few times. Jordan's in it. And of course, a great cast like John Schneider, James Storm, Eric Roberts. Jim Brewer, Dylan Postle, Victoria Jackson. It's a terrific movie and it's available right now for free with ads on Fandango at Home and on the Roku channel. Actually, Fandango at Home you gotta purchase. Free with ads on the Roku channel. Talk to you next time.
The episode continues with a deep dive into the conclusions of the Coronavirus Pandemic Select Subcommittee's final report, featuring expert commentary from Dr. Robert Malone. We also preview a critical U.S. Supreme Court case concerning Tennessee's SAFE Act, which aims to protect minors from gender surgeries and treatments. Congressman August Pfluger joins the show to outline the strategic priorities of the Republican Study Committee and what Americans can expect from the new Congress.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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We are watching the recent developments in the ROK with grave concern. We are seeking to engage with our Republic of Korea counterparts at every level, both here in the United States and in Seoul. And ultimately here, our hope is, and every hope and expectation is, that any political disputes will be resolved peacefully and in accordance with the rule of law.
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That was State Department spokesman Vedant Patel commenting on South Korean President Yoon Seok-yool's declaration of martial law today, which was subsequently overridden by a unanimous vote of the National Assembly. Welcome to Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins, and it's great to be back in the studio. Here's what we're covering today. Texas Congressman Nathaniel Moran will join us to discuss the unfolding situation in South Korea and its global implications. Also four years ago, President Biden pledged to unite the country. It appears that on his way out of office, he finally succeeded by uniting Republicans and Democrats in opposition to his blanket pardon of his son, Hunter Biden, after repeatedly insisting he wouldn't do so. Meanwhile, his White House team is walking a fine line, claiming the president supports the Department of Justice while simultaneously contradicting that stance.
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Two things could be true. The president does believe in the justice system and the Department of Justice. And he also believes that his son was singled out politically.
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That was White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre's comments yesterday aboard Air Force One. The House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic has released its final report. This 520-page document aims to shape future pandemic responses. Three areas of interest in particular are the origins of the virus, U.S. funding of gain-of-function research through nongovernmental organizations, and the failure of government mitigation efforts. Dr. Robert Malone will join us to unpack the report's findings later on this edition of Washington Watch. And tomorrow, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear oral arguments on Tennessee's version of the SAFE Act. This is an act, a law that protects minors from transgender surgeries and experimental drugs. 26 states now have similar laws in place. Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey will join us to preview key arguments that will be made for and against these protections tomorrow. And finally, while much of the attention has been on President-elect Trump's pick for his next administration, Congress has selected its leadership for the 119th Congress that begins in January. Texas Congressman August Pfluger is the incoming chairman of the Republican Study Committee. He will share what the RSC's priorities will be in the coming term. And here's a reminder, today is Giving Tuesday. You've probably heard that. Well, you can partner with the Family Research Council and help us shine a light on biblical truth here in Washington, D.C. during this lame duck session of Congress and beyond. Now, FRC is standing as a watchman on our nation's spiritual walls, protecting faith, family, and freedom. And thanks to a $50,000 challenge match, every dollar you give will be doubled today. So we have folks standing by to take your call. Give us a call, 800-225-4008. That's 800-225-4008 to talk to one of the FRC team members standing by to take your call. Or you can visit our website, TonyBergens.com as well. All right. While there continues to be a lot of chatter over President Biden's pardon of his son Hunter over the weekend, easily overlooked amid the sound bites and knee jerk reactions can be just how significant the sweeping pardon is. No modern U.S. president. with maybe the exception of Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon, has ever issued such an absolution until Biden's full and unconditional pardon of his son. Going back almost 11 years, Hunter Biden has effectively been given a free pass for any federal law he might have broken over the past 11 years. Now, what could the impacts of this pardon be? What message does it send? And what does this mean for the investigations that have been underway on the shady business practices of the Biden family? With me now to discuss this and more is Congressman Nathaniel Moran. He serves on three House committees, including the Judiciary Committee and the Foreign Affairs Committee. He represents the 1st Congressional District of Texas. Congressman Moran, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks, Tony. Great to be here. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving last week.
SPEAKER 07 :
I did. It was very good. And you?
SPEAKER 11 :
A fantastic Thanksgiving. Luckily, I got two turkeys correctly done before lunchtime.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, that is an accomplishment. So let's start, before we jump into the Hunter Biden situation, let's touch on the issue in South Korea. How significant is this? The president there declaring martial law only having to retract it about six hours later after the National Assembly overruled him.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, this is really significant, and frankly, this is very concerning because we're talking about a strategic ally in a very important region of the world for us, but an ally that has got a democratic basis to it, and we want to see the rule of law upheld. What President Yoon did is certainly concerning because martial law should be the very last thing that is resorted to, and as the facts roll in, boy, you wonder what was the foundational basis for this. I know he's had a lot of opposition from Leader Lee's party and a lot of internal struggles, leadership struggles as well. And you look back just a couple of years ago, when he got elected in 2022, he just won by a small margin, 1% over the opposition party. And he was, of course, the one pushing back against North Korea more than the other party. But Still, the other party controls about 192 of the 300 seats in the parliament there, and just about eight seats short of what they need to impeach President Yoon. And you wonder, really, was this a politically motivated move? Stunned on his part? Was this a politically motivated activity to reduce the influence of the opposition party and to try to quell the growing internal problems he's having in his own party? I hope that was not the case, but certainly this is very concerning for a democratic Korea.
SPEAKER 07 :
It does when you look at what is included in the Declaration of Martial Law. This is basically all news and media publications are now under the control of the government. No political gatherings, no opposition, even the ability to crack down on fake news. I mean, this is, as you said, this is stuff we would expect from totalitarian governments. But when this starts to come into democracies, I think it's something we should take note of.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, absolutely we should. And you're exactly right when you're talking about the rights of the people to associate with one another, to push back against the government. And we've talked about this here in America when the government begins to decide what is correct information and misinformation, that is a slippery slope that we do not want to go down here in America. And we don't want to see our democratic partners around the world given to that. It's an easy and susceptible pathway to go down to because governments want to tend to believe that they have the truth. But as we've already seen here, you've highlighted at the beginning of the hour about the about the COVID information that we got during the COVID time period. Government oftentimes is wrong and government should not be the purveyor of what is truth and what is not truth. We need to let free press and free expression of speech happen. And we want to see that happen with our democratic partners around the world too.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because we certainly would not want to see that happen here in the United States, regardless of what party might be in power. What allows us to do course corrections is when the American people have the full ability to express themselves and peacefully assemble and seek the redress of grievances that they have. We can do it at the ballot box, but there's other times to do it as well. And it's important that we protect those rights.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. That's exactly. They're essential and foundational to preserving the democratic institutions that we have here. And we need to make sure to reinforce that with our partners around the world, that they need to make clear that that's going to be upheld in their own countries. Otherwise, the democratic processes there cannot be trusted.
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So let's talk about here at home, Congressman Moran, about the pardoning of Hunter Biden. Now, presidential pardons are not new. Maybe a little different, pardoning your own son for criminal behavior that he both pled guilty to and was convicted of. But going back almost 11 years, that's quite significant. Does this shake the trust in our government institutions?
SPEAKER 11 :
it should shake the trust in government institutions. But I don't think anybody should be surprised by this pardon. Even when President Biden months ago was saying he promised he would not pardon his son, he promised to abide by the verdict. And then after the conviction reinforced that and said he promised to do it. And then we saw the press secretary again validating those statements and saying, listen, President Biden is not gonna let his son off the hook. He's gonna embrace what the jury is gonna do. We knew then that those were false words. Anybody that was listening closely knew that that was not going to actually come to fruition. This should not be unexpected, but it should be shamefully received, because, truly, this just reinforces, I think, the Biden's legacy of promoting a two-tiered justice system, of saying there is one level of justice for the Biden family, and there is a different level of justice for the rest of Americans, ordinary Americans, Because no other ordinary American would get this kind of treatment. And certainly a 10 year, 11 year, going back to January 1st, 2014, having as broad a scope as we've seen since really the Nixon pardon, saying whatever he's done under federal law, he's going to wipe away with a pardon. It's atrocious to see that happen, and it's equally atrocious to hear the excuses now for him to come out and say, well, you know, he was targeted because he was my son, and so he was specially targeted, so I'm going to give him special treatment. That's not the case, and certainly nothing's changed since August or July when he said and reaffirmed again, I promise I won't pardon my son. If anything, Hunter Biden's been given preferential treatment over the past decade, and here he gets another preferential hand.
SPEAKER 07 :
Speaking of the family, does this put other family members in jeopardy now that Hunter has this pardon? He cannot plead the fifth if he's called to testify regarding other activities that the Biden family has been involved in.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it is a legal conundrum for them at this point in that regard. But I do think that there was going to be some problems if perhaps he wasn't given this pardon. When you're looking at it from President Biden's family standpoint, because without the pardon, he's got incentive to go to the feds and say, hey, I've got more information on my family if you'll let me out of jail. And given the lack of character that Hunter Biden has, I could have seen him doing that, throwing some of his family members under the bus specifically to get out. So you can argue one way or the other for which is the best benefit for the Hunter Biden family. But, truly, this is just more of a father protecting a son. And I bet you, if you trace him back to his childhood, this is what President Biden did from the very beginning. And that's why Hunter grew up the way he did, believing that he could escape any consequences for his actions.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is this the last of it or is this something we're going to hear more of even into the next Congress?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think you're going to continue to hear more of it just generally as the Biden family gets exposed. And I think there will be more exposure of the bad deeds that they did, not just Hunter, but throughout the family itself. So you're going to hear more about it. But certainly as the president, he has the sole authority to grant this pardon. And it's unfortunate that he's exercised this authority in such an abusive way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I do think Congress should, and I hope they will continue to look at this because justice needs to be done no matter how long it takes. Congressman Nathaniel Moran, thanks so much for joining us. Always great to see you.
SPEAKER 11 :
My pleasure. Thanks, Tony. Have a great day.
SPEAKER 07 :
You too. All right. Don't go away, folks. On the other side of the break, the Coronavirus Select Committee released its final report, 520 pages. We look at it next.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks for having me on, Tony. It's an interesting time and an interesting report. It is.
SPEAKER 07 :
How thorough, before we go piece by piece, how thorough of a review was this of the pandemic, in your opinion?
SPEAKER 08 :
So there's areas that it was quite thorough and aggressive, in part because it had the ability to subpoena and to hold classified hearings. There is a lot of concern and complaints that the committee did not delve into in particular the adverse events associated with the vaccine. This is revealed in part through the odd juxtaposition of a very strong endorsement of Operation Warp Speed immediately followed by a statement in the Committee's summary that the vaccines were over-their effectiveness was overstated, their safety was understated, or it was not acknowledged, the adverse event profiles. there the committee specifically said that the vaccines were very ineffective in preventing infection and disease. So that juxtaposition of endorsement of Operation Warp Speed followed by a resounding lack of endorsement of the efficacy and safety of the vaccines is another thing that a lot of people find perplexing and speaks of a compromise within the committee and kind of the usual D.C. process of speaking out of both sides of one's mouth.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's like we got this thing done very quickly. It didn't work, but we got it done.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and it didn't work, and it caused major health concerns, impacts. And that's, you can pick that out, for instance, one of the other committee comments is that those that were harmed by the vaccine are not being efficiently and adequately compensated by the process. So there's a lot of contradictions here. It clearly represents a consensus document after two years of arguing. We saw that arguing very clear in a number of the public testimonies, including with Dr. Fauci. But all in all, the comment also is, well, we knew all that stuff. We've heard it all for the last four years. Yeah, but you didn't have an official congressional statement on that.
SPEAKER 07 :
For instance, the origins of COVID-19 appears that they've settled on the idea that it did come from the lab, something that was said at the very beginning and was refuted by those in government.
SPEAKER 08 :
And you've cited the CNN report on this topic in which CNN is still dug in on natural origin and is denying and obfuscating the importance of the committee's decisions and conclusions regarding the laboratory origin. But throughout much of the world, this is considered to be the The truth is that this was an engineered virus, and as the Committee correctly points out, it has characteristics that are not found in nature, and it has the characteristics of a single point of emergence into the population at Wuhan adjacent to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
SPEAKER 07 :
Let's talk about the mitigation efforts that were undertaken by the government in particular, you know, distancing, masking. You mentioned the vaccines. They came to the conclusion that most of us in America realized very early those things didn't work.
SPEAKER 08 :
They did. And they also were quite critical of the governor of New York, Cuomo. And the actions that he took in the context of the elderly and the nursing homes, and there's indications that that was a that's been referred to. The committee did endorse in a soft and squishy way. Aspects of the testing program that was done as a public private partnership. Well, acknowledging that the testing had significant problems. So it's clearly an attempt here to be fair and balanced and to take into consideration the positions of the minority.
SPEAKER 07 :
The big question is, will this have the impact of preventing the failed attempts that were taken during COVID-19 if any future pandemic arises?
SPEAKER 08 :
Forgive my cynicism on that. I don't see the federal government at this point in time taking these suggestions in and acting appropriately to respond to them. This should be a very active lessons learned. and their openness and transparency. We're not seeing that. And unless Mr. Kennedy is confirmed and his appointments are successful in moving forward transparency and accountability, I very much doubt we're going to see it. And you can see that As many of the same players are now ramping up. Fear about. the avian influenza. Right. Sorry about that. We had a little bit of a glitch. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
So we're almost out of time here, but I think one of the things that should happen is under the next administration, the same leaders in Congress should push this forward, making sure that these findings are in fact taken into consideration when policies are shaped by the next administration. Dr. Malone, out of time. Thanks for joining us. Always great to see you. Always appreciate your input. Thank you, Tony. Well, that is something I think we need to stay on. And we're going to continue to talk about that, even though this is the final report. We need to make sure it goes somewhere. As Dr. Malone said, he's right to be cynical because government rarely learns its lessons. Don't go away. More after this. It begins here and here and here. Every day. Before you stand, you need solid ground. Standing in a culture that wants you to surrender the truth won't work unless you have a firm foundation. At Family Research Council, we have that firm foundation and you can find us standing. We stand for the value of all human life. We stand for the right of families to flourish. And every day we stand for your freedom to believe and to live out those beliefs, both at home and abroad. We work with government officials, educating them on the issues from a biblical worldview, and when necessary, we hold them accountable. We equip Christians across America to be informed and to take action in their communities. With our daily radio program, television appearances, and vast online presence, we reach people where they are. We envision an America where all human life is valued, families flourish, and religious liberty thrives. And that won't be realized if we're not standing. Stand for faith. Stand for family. Stand for freedom. Stand with us at FRC.
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Welcome back to this Tuesday edition of Washington Watch. Don't you love the Christmas music? I do. I just love this time of year. And speaking of this time of year, today is Giving Tuesday. And Washington Watch, Family Research Council, we are here only because of you. We could not do what we do if it were not for folks like you across the country that stand with us. And today we have folks standing by to take your call. If you'd like to partner with us and make a contribution, give us a call 800-225-4008. That's 800-225-4008. Tomorrow, our nation's highest court will be hearing a pivotal case concerning the gender mutilation of minors. Now, this is something we've been working on going back to 2017 as we helped shape one of the first laws that went into effect in Arkansas. or was passed in Arkansas. It's been challenged there as well. Now, 26 states have these laws protecting minors. One of the states, Tennessee, Senate Bill 1, which prohibits these experimental and irreversible procedures on children before the age of consent, is being challenged before the court. U.S. versus Scermetti. And we want to preview what the court might hear tomorrow. What are the arguments that those that are defending these laws, what will they be making tomorrow? And what might the opponents be making? And joining us is one of the men who has been leading this effort. He is the Attorney General of the State of Missouri, Attorney General Andrew Bailey. General Bailey, welcome back to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks for having me on, Tony. I appreciate you.
SPEAKER 07 :
You have been on this for quite some time. Ever since you stepped into that office as Attorney General, you know the dangers and the harms behind this. So what are some of the arguments that the proponents of these laws protecting children will be making tomorrow?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it's really a state's right issue. You know, I think the 10th Amendment is the overlay to all of this. And the 10th Amendment says that any authority not given to the federal government or denied to the states is enjoyed by the states and the people of the states and its plenary power. The federal government is a government of limited and enumerated authority while the states retain residual authority. The constitutional challenge to Tennessee's bill asks the question, can states protect kids i mean that it's most fundamental core that's the question before the court and the plaintiffs here have raised an equal protection challenge saying that it is unequal application of the law to single out different groups of people who can be then denied access to specific medical care and our point is number one it's not medical care at all it's woke left-wing experimentation for which there are zero fda approvals for irreversible surgeries there are zero fda approvals for use of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones in the treatment of gender dysphoria. So the state absolutely has a compelling interest in protecting kids from this kind of mutilation.
SPEAKER 07 :
Where might this go if the Supreme Court were to side with the opponents of these laws protecting children? What other things might this open children up to?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think it's a parade of horribles. Look, if states can't draw distinctions to limit access to certain medical procedures or certain other items that are otherwise available to adults in the marketplace based on the child's age, then you... No way that a state can prohibit consumption of alcohol before 21. No way a state can prohibit a juvenile getting a tattoo before the age of 18. I question at that point whether or not kids can be restrained by law in safety seats. I have a two-year-old. And the state mandates that I use a certain approved safety seat for that two-year-old. Well, if the equal protection clause says you can't make those, a state can't make those distinctions based on age or gender, then those laws are subject to challenge as well. And so, again, it's a very slippery slope that is completely unprincipled. And think about this. I mean, again, the question under the Equal Protection Clause analysis is whether or not the state has a compelling interest and has chosen a means narrowly tailored to achieve that interest. Those types of laws have been upheld in the past. The same reasoning and rationale should apply here. But it's also dripping with irony. that this law protects all children from experimental mutilation. And yet the plaintiffs who are against the law say, well, no, certain individuals should be subjected to these dangerous procedures based solely on a mental health disorder. It's absolutely hypocritical. And that's why I think ultimately their argument fails.
SPEAKER 07 :
Attorney General Bailey in the state of Missouri was one of the states that actually passed an amendment on the ballot in November regarding abortion. But it was reproductive freedoms, which sweeps into as many read into this law and obviously it'll be determined by the courts. The whole issue of gender mutilation, these experimental procedures, could this not also open the door to driving a further wedge between parent and child and the right that a child has versus the right of a parent to determine what the child has access to?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, Tony, it's a great point. And let me just sharpen it and say that it's an absolute attack on parental rights. And certainly that's true in the case of the amendment that was forced on the people of the state of Missouri by outside interests using these broad and vague terms like reproductive health. The idea is that they get a toehold. And then again, they line up a parade of horribles. It's an assembly line of death and destruction that follows. And certainly that's what we're fighting against here in Missouri. And we're proud to have partnered with 26 other states to fight to defend Tennessee's law in the United States Supreme Court to prevent this kind of gender ideology. It is an insidious ideology that has infected the public domain, our public institutions. And we've got to take a stand and fight back. I'm excited to see what the court does and confident in the ultimate success on this case.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's my final question. We've got 30 seconds left. Based on the court previous decision, do you think the court will rule in favor of Tennessee?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think the court will, because again, what the proponents, what the antagonists against the law, the proponents of gender ideology, what they're saying is that there's some kind of equal protection constitutional right to mutilate children. Certainly the drafters and ratifiers of the 14th Amendment would have found that to be abominable. And certainly that's not in the text history or tradition of that constitutional amendment. And that points to our ultimate success in this case.
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All right. Attorney General Andrew Bailey, thanks for joining us. Always great to see you. Thank you, sir. All right, folks, stick with us. Congressman August Pfluger joins us next. Don't go away. Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, President of the Family Research Council here in Washington, D.C. Behind me is one of the most recognizable buildings in all the world, the U.S. Capitol. What does it stand for? Well, most people say government. But do you know the Bible talks about four institutions of government? Do you know what they are? And do we have a republic or a democracy? Well, what do you say? Also, what about this thing, separation of church and state? Does that mean Christians shouldn't be involved in government? Guess what? We address those issues and more in our new God and Government course. I invite you to join us to see what the historical record and the Bible has to say about government. Join us for God and Government.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us on this Tuesday. The website Tony Perkins dot com. Our word for today comes from Isaiah chapter 20, where the prophet Isaiah is called to deliver a powerful message in a striking way. The Lord spoke to Isaiah, the son of Amoz, saying, go and remove the sackcloth from your body and take your sandals off your feet. And he did so walking naked and barefoot. The Lord said, just as my servant Isaiah has walked naked and barefoot three years as a sign, a wonder against Egypt and Ethiopia. So the king of Assyria led away the Egyptians as prisoner and the Ethiopians as captives, young and old, naked and barefoot with their buttocks uncovered to the shame of Egypt. You know, God commanded Isaiah to dramatize his warning by walking barefoot and without clothing for three years, a shocking act symbolizing the humiliation of Egypt and Ethiopia and what they would face. This vivid illustration reflects God's nature. His warnings are clear, not sudden, and without notice. Through Isaiah, God gave his people and the nations time to repent. So what is God saying to us today? Are we heeding his call to turn from pride and self-reliance to humility and trust in him? To find out more about our journey through the Bible, go to frc.org slash Bible. All right. A lot of the attention has been on President Trump and his selections for the various cabinet posts. But there's a lot, lot more going on. In fact, there's several key positions in Congress that will shape the next two years and beyond. And one of those is the incoming chairman of the Republican Study Committee. That is the largest and most influential conservative caucus in the House of Representatives. And last month, Texas Congressman August Pflueger was elected to chair the RSC for the 119th Congress. He joins us now to talk about the role that the RSC will play in carrying out President Trump's agenda in the next Congress. Congressman Pfluger, welcome back to Washington Watch and congratulations on your election.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, thank you very much. Thanks for having me again. It's good to see you.
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And, you know, you follow a line of a lot of very talented and gifted leaders. Mike Pence served as the chairman of the study committee. Mike Johnson is now speaker. Steve Scalise. So there's a lot of men and women who have served in a key role there at the study committee.
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Well, there certainly are. I'm humbled to be able to lead this organization. And actually, in the lead up to the election, spent a lot of time talking to the former chairman, understanding what they did, what the organization means to Congress, how it changes depending on majority or minority, White House or not. Suffice it to say that not only am I excited, but I think it's going to be a great opportunity for the Republican Study Committee to play a very big role in our conference, in the governing of our country, and in filling the mandate that the American people gave to us on November 5th.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, the Congress, as it appears to be shaping up, the Republicans are once again going to have a very slim margin, a historic, maybe one seat, depending on how things go as the president pulls members out to serve in his cabinet. What role do you see the Republican Study Committee playing in that scenario, in that environment with a very slim majority?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the American people spoke loud and clear, and they expect certain things to happen. And you're right, we do have a slim majority. But I kind of look at that as an opportunity, and especially for the RSC to be the gatekeeper, to be the communicator, the educator, the meeting every week. I mean, this really is the only meeting where Republicans have a substantive policy discussion on a weekly basis. And early on in our time in January, border security, energy security, budget reconciliation, the things that the American people expect us to get done quickly, I think the RSC will play a pivotal role in not only holding meetings where we're discussing and debating and having dialogues on that policy, but also unifying that slim majority, getting behind good conservative policy and gaining the trust of the American people. I'm excited about the opportunity. I think it's going to play a very big role. RSC will be right at the heart of all of these discussions.
SPEAKER 07 :
Congressman, you talk about the election and the mandate that came from the American people, what they said they wanted to see. So how will that shape the priorities of the Republican Study Committee as you go into the 119th Congress? What do you see as the top three initiatives that you'll be focused on?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I'm a military guy. I love this question because It's based on strategy. It's based on mission focus. I think, number one, border security is going to be the thing that we've got to get right. A lot of that comes from the president and us supporting him and the policies that he needs to actually enforce that we know President Biden did not enforce. Number two, energy security. I represent the Permian Basin. It's the largest secure supply of oil and gas in the world. But when it comes to American energy dominance, President Biden has tried to kill that for the last decade. for years and has used every tool available Lastly, and RSC will play a role in regaining that dominance and regaining the ability to invest in energy because we know that's going to increase. And lastly, think about budget reconciliation, the trillions of dollars that were spent out of the door without a discussion or debate. We're going to claw those back. We're going to make sure that the revenues that should rightly be going to the government are captured, that the tax rates are lowered, that we can capitalize on the gains that were made in 2017. and get the economy back in gear because we know that we have so much potential and households are hurting right now. So RSC is gonna play a role in all three of those, border security, energy security, and reconciliation to get the economy back in gear.
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Congressman Pfluger, military background, you and I have talked about a number of topics. And of course, the RSC covers the whole landscape of issues, not only domestic, but you speak into foreign policy issues as well. As you get settled into this position, as you contemplate what faces this nation, what do you see ahead as the greatest challenges facing our nation?
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm glad you brought that up because the three issues that I think were the chronological priorities for us underpin our national security. We live in a dangerous world. I mean, it doesn't take long to look across the world and see turmoil, whether it's in Europe with a hot war between Russia and Ukraine or the Middle East where the Iranians and the Hezbollah and Hamas terrorist organizations have attacked Israel, or whether it's in the Indo-Pacific with the Chinese Communist Party threatening that region and beyond. We have to be strong. Peace through strength is a must. RSC will play a very, very strong role in helping communicate, helping educate across the board what our committees are doing, how we regain our military prowess, how we recapitalize and add lethality and readiness back into the lexicon for our military professionals, and how we deter would-be enemies and adversaries because our strength is Our survival and our way of life really depends on that fact.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, having served in the Marine Corps under Ronald Reagan, whose motto was peace through strength, and he rebuilt our nation's military so that we could have that strength, so that we had peace. And my entire time in the Marine Corps was a time when the nation was at peace. But there's also an understanding that we... What we face today is not just physical, but our viewers and listeners understand there's a spiritual battle raging around the world. You cannot look at the Middle East and not see the spiritual side of things. You cannot look at some of the domestic policies that have been pushed by this outgoing administration and not see the spiritual nature of that situation. So based on that, Congressman Pfluger, how can our viewers and listeners be praying for you in this new leadership role that you are taking on come January?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you're absolutely right. And I believe that to my core. Just on the shelf behind me, I have the Founder's Bible, which I love reading. I love understanding how this country was formed and founded and the principles, whether it's Isaiah or Matthew or Luke, Old Testament or New Testament. The prayers that we need right now from every American are for discernment. They're for wisdom. They're for cutting through the chaff and getting to the heart of the issues of that will help our country continue to be the greatest country in the world, that will help the next generation live in a debt-free world, that they don't take on $35 trillion of debt. There are going to be a lot of things that will maybe appear to be good and appear to be worthy of our cause, but we really need to pray to make sure that we're tackling the right issues to get to the heart of the things that are preventing our country and preventing our citizens and preventing Americans from our full potential. So that's the prayer that I would ask for. It's the same prayer that I pray for myself and for other leaders. And I really appreciate you asking that. That's what makes your show so special.
SPEAKER 07 :
So praying for discernment and insight so that you'll be able to, and I think it's a great way to look at this because we want to cut through the symptoms and go to the source of the problem. Because my time in Washington over the last two decades, I found we spent a lot of time, our elected leaders spent a lot of time dealing with symptoms when we've got to go to the source of the issue. And that's the discernment and the wisdom and the insight there. That is needed. And Congressman Pfluger, that's exactly what we're going to be praying for you. We're going to encourage our listeners and viewers to do the same as we move into this 119th Congress, which has the potential to be a historic Congress as you move in with Congress. control of the Senate. Republicans have control of the Senate, control of the House, albeit small in terms of its margins, and the White House. This is a historic time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tony, it is. And, you know, we started the conversation today by talking about that slim majority. But honestly, when you don't have a lot of extra votes, resources, and in this case, the resource I'm talking about is Republican congressmen and women, then you really have to be surgical about your approach. You really have to be focused. You really have to understand what it is legislatively and policy-wise that's going to get us to that mission accomplishment. And I think it is going to be historic. I think we are going to accomplish the mandate. And I do believe that we are going to look back on the 2025 to 2027 period of time as one of the greatest legislative and governing periods in the history of our country. I'm very confident in that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I would add to that list, based on what you just said, Congressman Pfluger, we need to be praying for unity. And of course, unity, we don't pursue unity for unity itself, but we pursue it by pursuing the truth and what we can come together on in agreement. And I think that goes quite well with praying for discernment and understanding that around that discernment, around that understanding, we would build unity in the 119th Congress so that we can move the nation forward.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I love that. That's exactly why I wanted to run for Republican Studies Committee Chairman. I believe in this country. I believe in our conference. I believe in the fact that we can be unified. And we're going to have to in order to get the business of the American people done. We're going to have to unify. And I believe that we are on track to do that. The next couple of weeks will set those conditions. And so appreciate you having me on to discuss it because we are ready, we're energetic, and we're already at work prepping and getting things in motion for successful outcomes in 2025.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Congressman August Pfluger, I want to thank you for joining us. I went a little bit longer than I anticipated, but I wanted to give you a chance to kind of lay out the agenda and encourage people to be praying because I think we do have a unique opportunity going into January and we must seize this moment. And I'll be praying for your success as the incoming chairman of the Republican Study Committee.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tony, thank you so much. Thanks for having me on. And we're so excited to, uh, to see what's in store for this country and to do the work of the American people.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, thanks so much for joining us, and we'll be talking soon, I'm sure. Folks, I do want to encourage you to pray. In fact, right now we have Operation Prayer Shield going on, but we're going to continue to pray. And if you've not joined us in this effort, you can text SHIELD, S-H-I-E-L-D, to 67742, and you can join us in this effort to pray, to pray for our nation. And as we see what's happening internationally... You know, South Korea, looking at what's happening, of course, ongoing in Ukraine, in the Middle East, and this doesn't look like the ceasefire is going to hold. There's just so much going on, and we need to be praying. And we need to be praying for our leaders when they come in. Congressman Fluker put his finger on a discernment. We need to be praying for our leaders that they would have discernment, understanding, and be able to go to the heart of the problem and have the courage, frankly, to go to the heart of the problem. That they would be willing to take on the tough issues. Many are afraid. Not all. I want to be very careful because I've got many friends who've spoken up before when we paint Congress with a broad brush. There are men and women that God has called, even in this last election, to come to D.C. to stand for biblical truth. And we need to pray for them. We need to support them. So I'm going to challenge you. Will you join me in praying for Congress? Will you join me in praying for these men and women? They'll have discernment. They'll have courage. And around that, we'll build unity so that we can move this nation. As I've said this many times, November the 5th, we didn't save this country, but we have the opportunity to move this nation in the right direction, do a course correction. So I want to encourage you to pray. Also, I just want to remind you, for those that are on our journey through the Bible, in January, we start our second year of the two-year journey, and we have journals available. They make great Christmas gifts as well. You can get those by texting journal to 67742. That's journal to 67742, and get part two of our journal in our stands on the word journey through the Bible. Again, you can text journal to 67742. All right, folks, we're about out of time for today. I want to thank you for joining us. And again, I want to thank Jody Heiss for filling in for me and Mark Alford, Congressman Mark Alford, who filled in one day last week, and Joseph Ackholm, as well, as I was out over the last week, couple of weeks, taking a little time off. Thank you for tuning in today. Thank you for supporting Washington Watch and supporting the Family Research Council. We are only here because of you. In fact, today is Giving Tuesday. And if you would like to stand with us, well, I encourage you to go to TonyPerkins.com, follow links over, or give us a call at 800-225-4008. That's 800-225-4008 and stand with us. Until next time, I leave you with the words of the Apostle Paul, found in Ephesians 6, where he says, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, prepared, and taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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Join John Rush as he navigates through a whirlwind year, touching on personal hurdles while delving deep into the pressing issue of civil asset forfeiture at airports. Exploring the Department of Justice's recent decision to end unwarranted asset seizures, John discusses its potential ramifications on both local and national levels. With listener interactions, the episode forms a compelling call for reform, highlighting the balance between necessary security and personal freedoms while offering practical advice for those carrying large sums of cash.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Beautiful Monday here in Colorado. Yes, it is December the 2nd, and time flies. I'm not exaggerating. I feel like we just finished the last Christmas. Charlie and I say that every year, and it seems like it gets faster and faster every year. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. It literally feels like, at least for me, that we just finished the last Christmas. And I get it. Personally, I've had a whirlwind of a year with my folks and downsizing. Then we lost my mom. My dad's now in memory care and is having some other health issues and so on. And all of those things, you know, stack those on top of one another. And yes, it makes the year go by extremely fast. But I don't know about the rest of you. This one in particular, 2024, just seemed like it flew by. So, all right. Speaking of flying, the DOJ has announced. that it's going to end airport civil asset interdictions. In other words, the asset forfeitures, whereby there's times they'll just quote-unquote randomly, and you always wonder is it really random or not, but they'll randomly pull somebody out and they'll ask you questions like, how much cash do you carry? And they go through that whole rigmarole. And some people carry large sums of cash. Some don't. Some do everything on plastic. Some people, you know, they're going to buy. I've read stories where maybe they're going to buy a car. And they've got X amount of cash on them because they're going to go pay cash for the car. In fact, maybe that's the only way that particular owner will release the car. Maybe he's listening to drive radio too much. Because I get into that when it comes to buying and selling of cars privately on drive radio quite often. And I'm kind of one where without, you know, without but just a few exceptions, I want cash. Greenbacks. Hundreds, preferably. Because you can't trust anything else. Yes, I know there's some people that you can trust. And yes, even personally, I've sold some things where I've gone to the bank and the cashier check is coming right from the bank while I'm there and I'm watching it getting printed and so on. And that I feel pretty comfortable with. But would I feel comfortable with somebody just dropping off a cashier's check? Probably not. Again, there's some rare exceptions to that, but most times not. So in turn, you're going out of state to buy a car, and maybe it's a $20,000 car. This is an actual video that I actually watched not long ago. Guy had $20,000 with him. He was going to buy a car. He gets stopped. He's got the $20,000 with him. Well, guess what? He doesn't anymore because they seize it. That's been their practice in the past. If they think for one moment that there's something nefarious going on, they just seize it. And the problem is you have to sue to get that back. It's not as easy as just asking for it back because, frankly, you have to sue to then get it back. It's actually theft. It's government theft is what it is. Now, are there legitimate times where they probably should stop somebody that's dealing in drugs and so on that has that much cash and there's some nefarious things going on? Yes, there are those times. But more often than not, it's just somebody doing what I just mentioned a moment ago that gets caught in all of this that then somehow loses their, not somehow, they lose their 20 grand to Uncle Sam. You're not going to get it back. And by the way, these agents, by the way, they know this. They know you're not going to get it back. They know what it would take for you to get it back. That's why they don't feel bad taking it, because nothing's going to happen to them. That money just goes into their coffers at that point. That would be interesting to know, by the way, exactly where inside of each one of these agencies, police forces, and so on, does the money actually go? You see in the movies where in a lot of cases it ends up in that particular police department or agency's coffers, but I don't know the exact answer to that. I'm not relying on Hollywood to tell me. Reality is the government ends up with it. So there's been an announcement. One of you listening sent me this. Thank you, by the way, for doing that, that the DOJ has announced they're going to end this. Now, will that stay? Because remember, this is the current DOJ. Will that continue on with somebody like a Trump appointee running the DOJ? I would probably think so. In fact, you might even see less of this happening on a state-by-state basis because this happens on the roads as well. It's not just in the airport that this happens. This can happen at any time. So it'll be interesting to see if some of these sorts of things change under a Trump administration, even more so than they did the last time around. I'm hopeful that you'll see more of this. And as a side note, am I for catching the bad guys? Absolutely. Absolutely, I am. Although I will tell you that I think typically when it comes to bad guys, there's a lot of other ways to get them besides just at the airport carrying cash. If it's a known drug dealer and there's stuff going on, you know, drug smuggler, et cetera, there's typically a pattern there and there's all sorts of ways to catch these individuals. I'm not interested in catching, you know, Joe Blow, business owner that happens to be carrying 20 grand cash because he's going to go do something with it. Another thing, by the way, that I would love to see this administration change is This whole nonsense of if you go and take more than $10,000 in cash to the bank, it gets red flagged to the IRS, that number is way too low. There are businesses that take in that much cash on a routine basis that every time they take that much cash gets red flagged. It's ridiculous. It shouldn't be that. Ten grand, unfortunately, because of inflation, isn't as much as it used to be. That ten grand limit, by the way, was established in the 70s. My feeling is they should adjust that for inflation. Whenever that was enacted, I'd have to go back and look, but I believe it was the 70s. Whatever year that was, what was a dollar worth then? So in other words, what was 10 grand worth then, 10,000, versus the rate of inflation today? What's that same 10 grand worth today? They should be adjusting that amount according to inflation annually. They can round up, round down. I don't care. Make it an even number. I'm okay with that. But that number should be adjusted every year for inflation, and it shouldn't just sit at 10K. And I understand where it came from. It was to keep people from money laundering and so on and so forth. Although, has it? Did it? The reality is, no, it didn't. There's just as much money laundering and things like that going on today as there ever has been. Was that banking regulation that was put into play back in the 70s, has it curbed any of that? No, all that's done is made it much harder for the legit business owner and the legit person that, let's say you sell your car for $20,000. I'm using that same example a moment ago. The guy flies in, he buys your car, it's $20,000 cash. You've got to be careful how much of that you deposit on any given day. It's a bunch of nonsense. You ought to be able to take that $20,000, go put it in your bank and have no problems. But you can't, because if you do, you're now flagged. That whole policy, that regulation needs changed as far as I'm concerned. All right. Hi-Fi Plumbing is coming up next. Now, we do have plumbing problems that come up during the wintertime. 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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. The Bank Secrecy Act was passed by Congress in 1970 to combat money laundering. It's been amended numerous times, but for example, and I don't know exactly when, I didn't read to see when the $10,000 limit was put into play, but I think it was actually in that original 1970 act. Just for comparison, that same $10,000 in 1970 today is $81,356. So if you used my method and rounded down to $80,000 and that became the new trigger, $80,000 is a substantial amount of money, just like it was back in 1970 with $10,000. Remember, too, Charlie reminded me of this as well. All of the paperwork... from the bank side and so on, that has to take place. If you deposit more than $10,000, it's ridiculous and it's an extra amount of work that these banking institutions, frankly, shouldn't have to mess with. And this is one of the things right now that through Doge you could reduce costs in doing and do it my way and talk about adjusting it for the cost of inflation. John and Cheyenne, you're next.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, John. Welcome back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, sir.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I owe you an apology. I was wrong. I said Joe was going to pardon Hunter on December 20th, which is the Friday before Christmas. You're off a couple weeks is all, though. Yeah, but so I'm thinking he's going to pardon his brother sometime between now and the time he's at office because he was involved in the shenanigans, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, you can't, though. Has he been charged with anything, Jim?
SPEAKER 06 :
Nixon was never charged anything, and Ford pardoned him for everything.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's, you know, that's the thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
So it's basically, Charlie just said, it's a preemptive pardon.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, for any crimes you may have committed from this date back.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you just say, yep, I'm going to do this for my brother Jim, and Jim, you're good to go. Yeah, I could see him doing that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I could see it, too. He might even pardon his wife, because, you know, she knew everything. Oh, that'd be a good one.
SPEAKER 04 :
That'd be a good one.
SPEAKER 06 :
His reputation has been destroyed, so now he's at the point where He doesn't care.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you have a good point. No, at this point, what difference does it make?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and the pardon powers in Article 2 are, there's no limit to them. It's very, very broad what the president can pardon for. Now, I'm reading all this stuff on X today about how Hunter will get prosecuted in state court. What state is going to prosecute him?
SPEAKER 04 :
None. None.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the states that would, he probably didn't commit any crimes in.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you get some of the red states that might actually go after him. Yeah, there's probably nothing there. You're right, John. Yeah, at the end of the day, that's not going to happen on the state level anyways.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, yeah, so it is what it is. We've got to ride it out for the next 50 days and call it 49 days, I think it is now, and call it over and then see what happens. As for Doge, I followed them on X and I sent them an email. The biggest thing we have to talk about, and I don't know, you were talking about saving money. The National Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management, those two agencies need to be dissolved and all that land needs to be sent back to the states.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're not going to get an argument out of me. You've heard me talk about that numerous times, John.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. The biggest thing right now is the National Forest Service, which is part of the USDA. Why would the Forest Service be under the Department of Agriculture? That right there doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER 04 :
No. Really quick, though, John, here's where I think you're going to have some issues with. Maybe, maybe not. You currently have states still selling land to the feds, believe it or not.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, that's ridiculous, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which, by the way, I think your state just did that, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think it was more of a trade.
SPEAKER 04 :
Was it a trade or a sale? I don't remember.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think they traded some land to the National Park Service that was private property, but it butted up against Grand Teton, if I remember the one you're talking about.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that's right, but I can't remember. I thought there was like $100 million. They did. They got $100 million out of it.
SPEAKER 06 :
They did. The state. Yeah, the state did. Yeah, but wasn't that land that was either butted up against or partially in Grand Teton?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think it was a portion of land within the Grand Teton National Park. Right. But I'm with you. I would rather see the feds just give that land back to Wyoming. Okay, it's yours now. You manage it. You do whatever you want to. If you want to sell some of it off, be my guest. Do whatever you want to.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because right now there's a thing on YouTube. The National Fire Service has already said they don't have the money next year. They're not going to hire their summer part-time help. Do you know what that summer part-time help does? Maintains the trails, clears the trails, maintains the trailheads and the restrooms and all that stuff. They say there's not going to be any money. So you know what our national forests are going to be like? Trashed. Well, they are now. So does that make you nuts if you're walking in the wilderness area and you see trash on the ground? Yes. I'm like, really? You packed it in, you know, the signs there. Pack it in. Pack it back out. Yeah, I mean, I understand. And now they're encouraging people in some places to even pack out They're number two because they don't know how to dig a cat hole, which we know how to dig.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's how you were taught.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they're leaving it on the side of the, you know, in the forest. I mean, come on, dig the hole. I mean, it's not that hard.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it's pretty simple.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and I carry – for backpacking, we carry a – we call it a poop kit. You know what's in it. Well, in there is a small trowel, and it takes like – and I got one that has a serrated edge, so it takes like two seconds to dig a hole.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, we were talking. If you didn't even have that on, you can always go find a stick to dig a hole with. It's not that complicated.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, or your trekking pole, if you're like me and carry trekking poles.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not hard. You know, a sharp rock, a stick. I mean, again, we're not talking about rocket science. Yeah, anything.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, not at all. But these people are disgusting.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, my word.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it goes back to what you were saying at the beginning of the show.
SPEAKER 04 :
It goes back to the trash thing the first hour.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, the airplanes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
People have no respect.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, you see it. I mean, you fly like I do, John. You see these pigs. Sorry, I don't know what other word to call it.
SPEAKER 06 :
They're literal pigs. I don't know. I would say slobs, you know. If they treat somebody else's property that way, what do you think their house looks like?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know, John. I can only imagine. I can only imagine.
SPEAKER 06 :
I remember some of the houses that were pretty funky when I was a meter eater, and that was almost 30-plus years ago. I can imagine what some of them were around because they just don't have – John, does it just go back to manners?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. Good manners? Just how you were raised, how you were taught. Again, John, you were taught the same way I was. When we went to the woods, my dad, he taught us that you go to the woods and you leave it better than you found it.
SPEAKER 06 :
I will, if I see trash on the trail and it's something like, you know, a candy bar wrapper or a cliff bar. So I'll pick it up and stick it in my pocket and dump it at the trailhead. Cause I don't know the last time I was at a trailhead. That didn't have at least one trash receptacle there. But that's going to be something else if the Forest Service doesn't have money. Who's going to empty those? Exactly. Who's going to pump out the pit toilets?
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. There's another thought on my end, John, is we've got so much. Government waste in some areas, and yet those areas you just mentioned have typically been underfunded. Now, I also will tell you that we own, and I've said this before on air, we own far too much land as a country. I mean, 40% plus of land in this nation is either state or federally owned, and that's too much, by the way, way too much.
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Oh, absolutely. But the first thing is the Forest Service. Give it back to the states. Let the state run the national forest, you know, like, I don't know, Mount Circle Wilderness Area en route national forest. Let the state of Colorado run that. Let the state of Wyoming run it north of the border medicine boat. You know, and just look at it. Here's a prime example. A couple of years ago, under Trump, They were going to go in and clear one of the national forests in California, and California and the Sierra Club sued. and said, no, you can't do that. And they were going to go in and do some forestation, which you need. That forest caught on fire a year later, and it cost a bunch of money. If the state owned that, then they would be on the hook with those fires.
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That's right. They'd be handling it differently. And they might not be. Absolutely.
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The other thing that we need to get with Doge on is there was a law passed in the early 70s that places lawyers that represent, like, the Sierra Club and stuff to sue on behalf of environmental action and stuff like that, get money to sue the federal government from the federal government.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that needs changed. Well, and the whole tort law end of things, John, needs changed. And for those of you that don't understand what that is, the reality is they need repercussions. If you bring a frivolous lawsuit, there needs to be repercussions, and you need to be on the hook for the money spent. And even the other side, whether that be feds or whoever, whatever it took for taxpayers to defend that, that needs to be handled differently. The problem, John, is the whole House of Representatives and the Senate is full of lawyers, so good luck on that one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that's going to be one of the hardest things. But that law, so the Sierra Club gets money from the government to sue the federal government. Unbelievable. That makes no sense. If the Sierra Club wants to sue on behalf of the Spotted Owl, which was, you remember that one. Round up the money and do it. Get your donations because there's a lot of people out there that may agree with you. I'm hoping for the best over the next, but with Biden, we just need to see him not start World War III before.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. My son Richard joining us now. Richard, big game here in Denver tonight, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, big game. Not super cold, although you would argue anything below 60 is cold. Yeah, I'm getting worse as I get older.
SPEAKER 04 :
But it'll be a nice night for the games. It'll look great on Monday Night Football. Folks will be excited. Anytime you're on Monday Night Football, it's always good for the city that it plays in.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's always good. Well, you know, it's kind of like what we talked about with CU, right, where, you know, it's always a good thing to have the publicity, right, you know, and especially of your city. And for us, you know, they're going to have, you know, videos of the ski resorts and pictures of the mountains. And especially I think they're actually. kick it off Monday night countdown and stuff now, and they make it seem like the mountains are at the back door, which I guess they are. We'd maybe probably take it for granted.
SPEAKER 04 :
Compared to a lot of other places, I guess, I mean, I never have looked at it like that as a native, but I think to people outside of the state, they would probably agree that it's very, very close anyways.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, I would agree. Definitely a very big game tonight. A game that they should win. Don't get it confused here. They should absolutely beat this team, and they should beat the Browns. I'm not saying it should be a blowout, because I think the Browns, especially after they changed... Sort of changed quarterbacks by half, too, because Deshaun Watson got hurt. They should win this game. Again, I think the Browns are a professional team. They should come in. They should compete. Jameis, the quarterback for the Browns, is kind of a wild card. He can either have a really good game or a really not-so-good game. But they should win this game. The trajectory the Broncos are on, this is a game they should win. They're going into their bye week. They need to get into it on a positive note, then come back and really kind of prepare for the stretch run for them to sort of finish off this season strong. You're kind of where they need to be. And honestly, they're in a great position to get into the playoffs. two-game lead on any of the teams in the lost column, including the team they play here in two weeks, which is the Colts. And so you're coming down to where the math, if you win the game that you're supposed to, the math just doesn't line up for other teams. And what I mean by that is, you know, basically they're just running out of games to catch you, right? You know, nine games or nine, I should say ten, right? So you've got to win three of your next, five games, because that would put you at, let me see here, 10 and 7, which is very possible for the Broncos to be, and you probably are good there. If you get to 10 and 7, you are likely in the playoffs and playing either one of the Chiefs, Bills, or Steelers. And, man, if you played either the Chiefs or the Steelers, that would be quite a drama.
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Okay, really quick, speaking of the Chiefs, was it offsides or did the refs get it right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Here's the deal. As much as this pains me to say, by definition, the quarterback was moving towards the line, and so that is in a legal shift by the definition of the rule. Now, I haven't seen the other – looks, views yet, but there was some rumors out there that if you see the full clip, that the offensive line moved before the quarterback did.
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I see. Which would then be offsides.
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Which would then be a false start.
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Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. And if that's the case, it's a false start. And for people that don't know, a false start by the offense is a dead ball foul.
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It means it's five yards to replay the down.
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Correct. Which means, yeah, the play didn't happen. It's a dead ball play, they call it. Correct. And the legal shift, the legal motion is a live ball play, which means that they let the play play out, see what happens if the defense gets a turnover, as what happened there, then the defense can decline the penalty and they receive possession of the ball. So in this case, if the offensive line moved, it was a false start. If they're going off of what the quarterback did, it was an illegal motion. Now, here's the other view of that. I really don't have any confidence that the Raiders kicker, the dude who had missed several field goals earlier in the game, who's a Colorado kid, by the way, which pains me to say, I don't have any confidence that he was actually going to make the kick. I'll just say that right now, especially with how the Chief luck was going and everything else. But inevitably, they didn't. And here's the question. the Chiefs' luck is going to run out because you just cannot have a season that's going like this and just continually getting it. It just never happened in history, right? Just the odds would say it's darn near impossible to get every single bounce your way. So the question for the Chiefs is, does their luck run out in the regular season so they get a few losses out of the way and then they go into the playoffs? Or does it hold on until the playoffs and then it runs out in the playoffs? And that's really the question to me that remains to be seen.
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Yeah, and again, who knows? Will their luck—I mean, eventually luck runs out, as you know, Richard. Typically things don't continue to go on. And there have been some very close encounters, I guess you could say. And by the way, that was a 2-8— team that played them that close? In other words, the Raiders were that bad. Did the Chiefs take that for granted, not play so well? My answer to that, Richard, is it's the NFL. Like you said tonight about the Browns. I mean, the Broncos can't overlook the Browns. You're still playing an NFL team.
SPEAKER 05 :
Totally agree with you. And that is the hardest thing that I think people struggle to understand at times, Dan, which is that the NFL is still the NFL. The players still get paid. It doesn't matter if you're 2-8 or Or 10-2, right? Or whatever it is, 8-2, right? It does not matter. They're all getting paid millions of dollars in lots of cases, right? Most of them are. And it's any given Sunday. And so I think the Chiefs, they actually have a pretty easy schedule the rest of the way. They should. Mostly went out. They do have a tough game against the Steelers, who with Russ have actually, which we'll actually talk about here in just a second, come on really well. Yeah, they've got an easy schedule. They should. But, yeah, like you said, any given, and especially a divisional game, that, right? Anytime you have a divisional game, throw the records out the window because those guys just play a little bit harder for that.
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By the way, I just watched the replay while you were talking of the Oakland Chiefs game. And I tell you what, it's extremely, extremely close on did the lineman move or did the quarterback move? You'd have to really zero in on that. And I personally feel like I get what you're saying. Would they have kicked it? Would it have mattered? Hard to say. But bottom line, I think the Chiefs got away with one there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and yes, I agree with you. I don't really have any other way to say it other than I do feel like the Chiefs got away with it. And here's the deal. If you're a Chiefs fan, you take it because you don't cry over anything in this league. There's bounces. There's missed calls all the time. The Broncos are going to get some tonight. There's going to be some that go against them. Again, just the ultimate reality is when does luck run out? Because it's statistically impossible. for them to go an entire season with the way that it's gone now. The odds are in everyone else's favor.
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Well, and they've had some other close games. And for those of you that maybe are listening or going to the game tonight, just be glad you're not in Buffalo. Yeah, fair enough. Because that game, I watched it last night. I mean, I love snow and all of that, Richard, and it's great, and it's fun to watch football that way, but what a miserable game that would have been to sit through.
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Dad, again, obviously a lot of people know what we do outside of this and the snow side of things, and I will just say this. I got anxiety watching that just because of, you know, number one, like it just didn't stop, right? You know, there's just so much snow. You look at the forecast, they don't get any snow, and it doesn't go away up there, right? Like with us, you know, honestly, the snow that we got, From last week, I'm surprised that as much of it is around as it still is around in certain spots, you know, parts around the front range here.
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Right.
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Because usually it goes away, right? It's one thing in Colorado. We're not used to, you know, months, weeks even, right?
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That's right. Days hardly. That's right.
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Snow on the ground. And then on top, and people were asking, I've played in snow games, Dad. As a player, it's not terribly bad, although, and I'm not a purist by any means. I do like outdoor stadiums, and I think that weather is, Football should be played in the elements. It's one of the few sports that they basically play in anything. I think it's basically the only sport, even soccer. They stop for too much heavy snow, that sort of thing. At the same time, though, you wonder in a place like Buffalo, why don't you put a roof? Because they're building a new stadium up there. You know that, Dad, right? Why not put a roof over your head?
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I don't know.
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And I have no idea. It is the weirdest thing in the world. But you know what? I guess we'll roll with this. It was exciting. Josh Allen should win the MVP. That was a crazy game. Here's another thing, Dad, because you had it happen on Thanksgiving night with the Dolphins playing the Packers. These warmer weather teams that go play cold weather is interesting, and actually it will be interesting in the college football playoff because there's likely going to be some northern teams that are hosting some SEC teams. And those teams don't travel north very often. They don't play in very cold areas. You could get a South Bend storm in Notre Dame there, or maybe up in Penn State, just depending on how stuff sort of shakes out. It'll be interesting. But weather's always the great equalizer, Dad, right? It sort of puts... kind of everyone on equal playing field. And I say it favors the offense more than it favors the defense, but that's just me.
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We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason. All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Also, insert a little drive radio component to it as we do on Mondays with car reviews. So, Richard, you just drove a 2024 Toyota Tacoma. Give me the trim options and so on. But for those of you listening, Tacoma, this is one of their largest markets in the nation for Tacoma in this Denver area.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it is. Well, and I'm sure so many folks are looking like, well, yeah, John, I see a gazillion of these things. You're right, you do. You see a gazillion of these things running around here, Dad, because they do well, right? That mid-sized truck, obviously it's not a full size. It's not meant to be a full size, but it just does phenomenal out here. The size lets you get into tighter parking spaces, that sort of thing. But the 2024 Tacoma, Dad, has been phenomenal. One that people, I think, have been waiting for for a while, right, is all new, all redesigned for 24. If you've been looking for that, you know, Toyota's generally a little bit slower to update things, but they do that for a reason, right? If something's working.
SPEAKER 04 :
They find something reliable and they stick with it. So this model, what did you drive? What model was it?
SPEAKER 05 :
So we had a 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road Edition.
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Okay.
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And they've got a gazillion different, you know, not a lot, but, you know, they've got an SR5, the TRD Sport, the Trail Hunter TRD, all sorts of different things, right? You can get this truck, Dad, as a Tacoma, anywhere from $35,000 all the way up to $65,000 if you opt for the TRD Pro, which includes a bunch of different, you know, not aftermarket, but kind of A bunch of off-road accessories, right, where you can basically pick that thing up and go straight up the hill with it. With the one that we had, it had the off-road premium package on it, which I'm not going to list for everyone. Basically, it gives you heated and ventilated front seats, a nice big kind of display. I think it's a 14-inch display. It's got a fun little option, Dad. It actually comes with a wireless Bluetooth speaker kind of in the center of the dashboard that if you're off-road or whatever it is, you can just pop that bad boy out and pop it up as you're camping and listen to it. It does come with a new four-cylinder engine. The one we drove, Dad, does not have the i-Force Max option, which for those of you listeners that don't know, basically that's the powertrain that they're putting in a lot of their vehicles, Dad. It's essentially a hybrid powertrain. It generates a lot more torque, a lot more power, but you're supposed to get the same fuel economy that you get out of the I-Force engine that we drove, which was really good, Dad, because it's still a turbocharged engine, and it works really well at our altitude. It's got good power throughout. I actually had to haul a few parts around and stuff for the office this past week, and it did that really well. Now, I will say this. And, folks, this is not a knock on this. This is just, I'm telling you, this is not a car meant to fit four full-size adults.
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No, they are not. Very few of those mid-sized trucks are, by the way.
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Correct. And so it's not a knock on any of them. Just know what you're buying because you've read some of these reviews. It's not meant to be bigger, right, Dad? It's meant to serve a purpose. Two full-size adults. If you've got a family of four with some smaller kids, could you put them in the back seat and be able to do all the things that you're looking for? Absolutely you could. I really like what they've done with the redesigned ads. So for folks who haven't seen it, I encourage them to head to Toyota's website. and kind of check it out, head to some dealer lots. I know that some of them are on the lots that way. But it works really well. And I know, Ed, that you've obviously driven Tacomas before. Like you said, we see a gazillion of them around here in Colorado, and it's for a reason.
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Right. And just for you, everybody listens to that. I just looked it up to that. The I-Force Max, the hybrid powertrain is not available in that trim level is why they don't do it. I'm guessing because of some of the off-road capabilities and so on. The other one's going to be heavier. So they're probably I'm assuming they're going to lighten things up for the off-road version.
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Yeah, and I will say that it's actually a specific trim level. Like if you're going onto Toyota's website or wherever it is, it will say, you know, I-Force Max. And so if you're looking for that, it increases the price by about $5,000. So the one that we had wasn't a guy, I think it was even a later in this year, Dad. If you're looking for that, I think they're starting to be available, and they come in the Limited and a few of the other trim levels. But honestly, Dad, again, for what ours was – and fuel economy, by the way – about 21, 22 miles per gallon, which is right about where I was at. Yeah, not bad at all. The only thing that I wish they would do – and this is just a personal preference, just because here in Colorado we're a little bit more spread out – I didn't hate the fuel economy. It just got a small fuel tank. And so I actually did have to put a little bit of fuel into it. Benefit, though, is in some turbocharged engines, Dad, you've got to put premium fuel. Not the case in this with the Tacoma. You can just put standard, you know, whatever, I guess, unleaded gasoline into it, and you're good to go. I enjoyed it. My kids did. One nice thing, Dad, is sometimes when you get these off-road trim levels, they ride a little bit rougher, right? And some people don't like that. I will say with the TRD Off-Road, It rode rougher, but it did not ride so bad or was so loud or anything in that way, shape, or form that turned me off to it, right? And usually that's kind of what you and I go off of is, okay, would this prevent me from buying the car? And the answer is no. They've actually done a good job at sort of blending – The street, you know, the drivability of it on your everyday drive with the capability of the off-road piece of it that I really, really like and kind of how they put that together. The price point on the one we drove, Dad, was the mid-50s, and again, that had a few different options and packages and stuff on it. We encourage folks to check that out themselves as they see fit. But honestly, the best thing for people to do that is get out, test drive these vehicles if you can. Again, they're all new for 2024. They're selling really well. They always do. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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Awesome. And again, folks, for those of you, maybe some of you are heading out to the Bronco game tonight, have a great time. Really quick, back to the car end of things. This is something that we mention a lot, and I get a lot of you that will text in asking about certain cars, new, used. Some could even be several decades old. We've got reviews up on our website all the way back to, gosh, we've been doing these reviews since, We've even got some reviews up on YouTube from back in the day when we did a lot of video stuff. So if there's something you're interested in, by all means, send me either an email or a text message and I'll help you with that. I do that constantly. And no, we do not charge for that. There's a lot of buying services out there that will give you the same information that I'm going to give you guys. And they charge for that. I will help you walk through the purchase of a car and you don't have to pay me to do it. It's just a part of what we do with Rush to Reason.com. and drive radio. So, Richard, all these cars that we drive, yes, they do serve a purpose, and we get an opportunity to, again, we don't know what these cars are like a decade down the road, but we get a pretty good feel of what things are like when they're new. And, again, we're usually a car advocate. We're not going after the criticisms of the car. We're looking more for the positives, and folks can find those criticisms on their own.
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Absolutely. And we are very much in the category, Dad, where our flavor may not be your flavor.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
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And so some people out there will try to do that. And so, again, what we like, folks, you may not like. And what you like, we may not like. And there's nothing wrong with that.
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No, go drive it.
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All right, wrapping up this second hour. Next hour, Kurt Rogers again with our Monday Mortgage Minute. We're going to talk to Kurt. He's going to talk about some things regarding Christmas refinancing. Are you wanting to consolidate some debt? Is that even the right thing to look at? What's the housing market looking like moving forward? We'll talk to Kurt along those lines. And then as well as that, we've got Jake Novak joining us. We're going to talk about Trump tariffs. jake's take on things because the reality is i think there's a lot of naysayers out there i've talked about this before most of them being globalist globalists hate tariffs because they don't want anything that might stop things globally and tariffs change things on a global basis so yeah globalists hate tariffs any way shape or form you'll find that consistently throughout really history when it comes to those sorts of things i'll get jake's take on that as soon as we come back and we'll talk to kurt to start things off this next So don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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In this thought-provoking discussion, John Rush takes listeners on a journey through the eye-opening realities of foreign entitlement and the evolving norms of parenting. Through personal anecdotes and candid reflections, the episode sheds light on societal shifts that have become apparent in travel and day-to-day interactions. The episode also examines Hunter Biden's pardon, providing a political lens through which to view these social changes, sparking a broader conversation about accountability and leadership.
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All right. Happy Monday, everybody. Welcome Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Yes, I am here live today. I know some of the promos said that I would not be. Change of plans on my part. So, yes, I am here live today and will be, should be throughout the week and, you know, pending any kind of, Small disasters, life changes, all sorts of things. That's all I can say. And those of you that just know some of my personal things that are going on in my world with my folks and so on, things happen. And for those of you that have elderly parents, you know exactly what I mean by that. So all I can say is I understand fully when things happen that are unexpected. Let's just say that. So question of the day. There was not one. From Friday, but today's on November 30th, 1876. The first Thanksgiving college football game was played. Name the two teams. I would not have gotten this one. So that is today's impossible question of the day. Answer this on our Facebook page. All right. Charlie always asks me, observations from vacations. He highlights things like that. Well, didn't really, with everything that kind of happened while I was gone and why I'm back early, I didn't really get the chance to observe things like I normally would have. Frankly, didn't even get a chance to really kind of unwind like I normally would. But it's all good. Not complaining. Just life happens at times. But some observations. And maybe this is just my observations. But... I feel like and I'm sure that other countries feel the same way about us because you hear these comments from time to time. But it sure seems to me like foreigners are entitled. And what I mean by that is they just act like there's certain things owed to them and or they ignore certain things because they'll act like I can't read or understand or whatever the case may be. And by the way, when I mean foreigners, I was in a place where there's people from all over the world, not just, you know, our border area. countries like we have here in the U.S., but I was in a part of the country where there's foreigners coming from all over the world, and they just feel, to me anyways, entitled. And I was even talking to some of the waitstaff and others around that particular topic, and I don't think I'm the only one. You always hear that comment that European folks feel like we're that way as Americans when we go overseas, and maybe they are, and I would hope that we wouldn't act like that. But this particular trip in particular, it just seems to me like, and I say foreigners, people that are not from the United States of America, Just act entitled. And then this one I talk about all the time because it's true. And every time I go someplace, especially over a holiday like I just did, parenting is not what it used to be. Let's just say that. Parenting is not what it used to be. There's a name for it now, and I'm not going to say this correctly, but there's this softer parenting, this kinder, gentle parenting, which, by the way, I was not raised by, nor did I raise my kids that way. And I look at some of these kids today, and frankly, they're little monsters. to the point where I like kids. I raised a bunch of kids, have a bunch of grandkids and so on. I'm getting to the point where I only like my own kids. I really don't like anybody else's kids because most of them are not well-behaved. Now, if a really nice, well-behaved person Child comes along or children come along. You know, I'm OK with that. I can deal with that. And occasionally you'll see that you can really tell that, you know, mom and dad are on top of things. But this whole kinder parenting thing is a bunch of nonsense. I'll just tell you that straight up. I don't know what it's going to be like 20, 25 years from now when these kids are in their mid to late 20s. Because the kids I'm talking about are anywhere from age 4 to 10. So what's it going to be like when they're 25 to 35? I think it's going to be really difficult for them, even more so than previous generations that have sort of been parented in the same way. But this whole kinder, gentler parenting is a bunch of nonsense. There's a reason Scripture's pretty clear on this. Spare the rod, spoil the child? Yeah, because kids need discipline. And I get it. That can be done over, you know, that can go overboard. I understand that. And I'm not talking about discipline that exceeds what's right and what's wrong. You know, what exceeds what's right, I should say. And when it exceeds that, yes, it's wrong. I'm not talking about child abuse because, yes, that can happen. And I'm not talking about that. But holy cow, when I was a kid growing up, I got paddled, I got spanked, I had corporal punishment, and I'm fine. My kids did the same, and they're fine. This whole, you know, how are you feeling and, you know, what's going on right now, talking to a four- and five-year-old about that is utter nonsense. And, yes, I observed some of that on vacation, which my wife and I just look at each other and shake our heads. It's like, you know, where are we headed in this regard? So I always give you a highlight of times when I'm gone, and I don't have a whole lot of other ones because I had other things going on while I was on vacation and really didn't get a chance to observe some of the things that I would normally observe, you know, outside of my regular normal complaints. And you guys, you know, even text me these from time to time on the whole flying end of things. um it's super expensive and it's for the type of people that have a boatload of money but i can see why people fly private i can fully understand that if you've got a really busy lifestyle and you've got the sort of income that enables you to fly private i can see why people do because it's getting to the point where i mean it's been this way for years now but it's getting worse and worse it's a bus with wings It's literally a bus with wings. And the way people treat the airplane is literally a bus with wings. And what I mean by that is the way they act, the way they dress, the way they behave. I've said this for years, but when somebody enters the airport world, in this case, even in Denver, you start driving down Pena Boulevard, all common sense they may have had—I say may— escapes them, because once they hit that inner circle of the airport, there's no common sense left. People have, they just lose it. I get behind people at times in the security line, and I think to myself, have you never been through security in your whole life? And by the way, these are people where if you know they have a TSA pre-check, because I do, and they're in front of me, it's like, okay, well, you fly enough to have that, so this isn't your first experience, but yet you act like it is. Anyways, I could go on and on about the whole travel experience and how it's getting worse and worse all of the time because there's just more knuckleheads involved in it, I guess. I don't know how to say it. And I get it. I see a lot more than probably most, especially when you travel over a Thanksgiving holiday and so on, which for me just works out well because of the time of the year and what happens here in the radio world and so on with our guests and so on. It's just an easy time for me. to take off versus other times because most of the rest of our world does the same thing. But anyways, I won't talk any more about that. You guys all text me different things at different times and even send me pictures of things that go on. And I appreciate that very much, by the way. Thank you. All right, we're going to talk about, just for a moment, because I've got a guest joining us at 3.30. It'll talk more about it. But we'll start off this next segment with Hunter Biden's pardon. which Joe Biden himself said numerous times, the White House press secretary said numerous times, would not happen. We'll talk about that here in just one moment. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al Smith. I talked to Al today, especially as we're entering in the latter part of the year now. And some of you will be looking at kind of that financial end of things, the planning of what's 2025 going to start looking like. Do you know what it's going to look like? Do you have a plan in place? 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All right. Before I get to Hunter Biden, Charlie and I were just talking through the break. The other thing that's this is in general just does not have to do with travel, but you probably see a little bit more of it traveling. And my wife and I were talking about this as well. The amount of people that now litter in this includes people with kids, people without kids. It just amazes me the amount of stuff. that people feel like someone else will pick up for them. And I can remember as a kid, and yes, we had the crying Indian that really wasn't an Indian, and I get that, the commercials about not littering and so on. It seems like we've really slipped in that particular area. And again, I don't know the political affiliation of individuals that litter versus those that don't, although I think I could take a pretty good stab at a political affiliation based upon that, just my own thought process. And some of that I've learned over the years just by the things that I've done in the car world and working on people's cars and so on. And, yeah, the amount of littering, you know, my wife and I were talking about even as we were out walking and doing different things and you just see things in the curb where somebody had just basically had lunch and threw everything in the curb. And it's like somebody's going to pick that stuff up. And just the lack of concern for that just kills me. You know, you'll walk off the airplane, and you'll look down. At least I do. Maybe everybody else doesn't, and I know I'm weird. But I'll look up and down, you know, back and forth across the aisles, and you can kind of tell where kids have been sitting and haven't been sitting. And so when I get it, kids can be messy, and you may not have, you know, a – A vacuum with you, I guess I should say, you know, a shop vac with you to clean up after them. But on the same token, you can pack your kids the type of snacks and things that don't make a huge mess so that you're not leaving all of that behind. And, you know, I've even watched adults leave stuff behind where it's like, you know, all of this costs money. And I don't think everybody really looks at it the same way. But for every ounce of time somebody else spends picking up after that person, it's costing all of us money at the end of the day. That's a whole other topic I can get into later. But let's talk about Hunter Biden. Now, how do I tie in that last comment to Hunter? It's called entitlement. People feel entitled to certain things. I feel like in this particular case, not only Hunter Biden, but Joe, President Joe Biden, they feel entitled that Hunter should not have this sentence. He's getting a pardon, presidential pardon. Those are big deals, by the way. And I understand every president that gets ready to leave office, there are certain pardons that they do, although historically, it's not your own family member. And I didn't look this up, Charlie. Maybe you know off the top of your head. Has there been any other presidents that have pardoned their own family prior to leaving office? You said yes. Is it profound or is it just like, but there has been. Charlie said he would look it up, but this is not common practice. That I do know. You don't hear about this happening all the time. Now, personally, I don't have a problem with this. And here's why. Our own governor, Polis, has the answer as to why I don't have a problem with this. This is a bad precedent that could be abused by later presidents and will sadly tarnish his reputation. When you become president, your role is to basically take care of the nations. And this is not taking care of the nation, of course. Now, what I said a minute ago is why I don't have a problem with this is this will tarnish his reputation. That's why I don't have a precedent. Is it going to set a precedent? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. The reality is the other side can't complain about anybody from our side doing it on down the road because it's now happening. So all you'd have to do down the road if something like this were to happen is you look back and say, well, Joe did it. But the tarnish, tarnishment of Joe's reputation, yeah, honestly, that one doesn't bother me a bit. I could care less. Now, I do want to remind everybody, and I get it, we're not to Inauguration Day yet. I understand that. Although... Although we're getting close enough. We're three weeks literally to Christmas. I mean, Christmas is three weeks from this Wednesday. Or four weeks from this Wednesday. But three full weeks until we get to Christmas, essentially. And Christmas week is all screwed up this year because it's on a Wednesday. So just as a side note, it's a totally messed up week. It'll be messed up for most people. A lot of businesses will maybe be open that Monday, maybe not because Christmas Eve is that Tuesday. Then it's Christmas. And then, of course, it's the day after. And a lot of places take off even between Christmas and New Year's. Regardless, it's a weird year this year. So just be prepared, and my point, and I've even been telling a lot of my clients this, just be prepared along those lines because the whole business world will be different this particular Christmas than typically because of the fact of how things fall, because of that Wednesday, meaning Christmas is on a Wednesday, so is New Year's. So just something to think about in your world when you're going about doing things and so on. Just remember that part of it. But point being, we're getting close to the end of the year. Once we're to the end of the year, they're not going to make any kind of a change. In fact, they're not going to make any change now, presidentially speaking. And in my opinion, this is partially why. I fully believe and you guys all know my thought process on how Kamala got the nod to become the presidential nominee after Joe bowed out. It was because of the inside deal made between Jill, Joe Hunter, the whole Biden family and the Democrats. Wasn't just Kamala, but all of the Democrats. And I feel strongly that that deal was we stay in office. We stay in the White House. And by the way, that means if Joe decides to pardon Hunter during that time, he will. We're not going to rely on somebody else taking over as president, maybe pardoning him or not. We're not going to go down that path. We're going to make sure we get this taken care of ourself. And oh, by the way, there's X amount of money we expect in return. So I feel like all of this dovetails into one another, and it's why you're not going to see her be president no matter what. Not going to happen. So Abraham Lincoln, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump have pardoned family members. I don't remember. Who did Trump pardon? Oh, Jared Kushner's dad. So kind of a quasi-family member. That's an in-law type family member, right? Yeah. Okay. So, and Clinton, oh yeah, that's right. He did his half-brother. I forgot about that, Charlie. Thank you. And Lincoln had his wife's relative pardoned. So none of these had really direct like father-son relationships. So this would be the first time there's a father-son relationship in regards to a pardon. Trump's is, that one's tough because that's the father of your son-in-law. So that one's a little bit different. Yeah, thank you, Charlie. Yeah, he just named him ambassador to someplace. And by the way, I'm not I'm not making excuses for Donald Trump or any other president. Pardon whoever they want to. I'm not making any excuses for Joe. I do think this one in particular, though, given the the high profile case of what Hunter Biden had, the fact that if if it weren't for the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story itself. I'm not sure Joe becomes president. I've talked about that many times on this program. I think it's very clear. There's been a lot of polling, and I've argued with some of you as liberals along these lines. The reality is the polling shows that if people knew about all of the intertwining and what was going on with the laptop and so on prior to the 2020 election, their vote would have been different. So you guys on the left can say all you want that it wouldn't have been. The reality is there's polling out there, polling data out there that says otherwise. So at any rate, you know, do I you know, am I upset about Hunter Biden getting pardoned? I don't think upsets the right word. Am I shocked? Not one. Not one bit. What I think is going to be interesting along these lines is how does the White House moving forward, I didn't watch anything today to see how some of the press conferences and so on went or if they've even had any yet, how they're going to spin this given the fact that the White House press secretary, I think at least Charlie on three if not four occasions said vehemently, he's not going to pardon Hunter. It's not going to happen. You know, Kareem Jean-Pierre said that numerous times in a very antagonistic way, like, I can't believe you're even asking that question. Of course, she's always got that snide, you know, response that she does anyways. That's one person's side note. That is one person, all said and done, that I am thankful we will no longer see after January 20th. Where she ends up, don't know, don't care. She is one of those people that, for me personally, just grinds on me. Cannot stand that woman at all. Her holier-than-thou, I'm-better-than-everyone-else attitude. She's a DEI hire, by the way, through and through. It's not because of her skill set. Anyways, she's one of those that will not hurt my feelings to not have to see her any longer. But it'll be interesting to see how they spin that. We'll talk to Jim Paff from the conservative caucus in a moment about some of this, as well as some of the other cabinet picks coming up in the Trump administration. High five plumbing is next. And don't forget, they do electrical now as well as plumbing. And as we head through the holiday season and we've got some colder weather coming in next week, if there's anything you need plumbing wise, please give them a call. Again, it's 877. We high five.
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. Jim Paff joining us now. Jim, welcome. How are you, sir? I'm doing well. How are you doing, sir? I'm doing good. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving, conservative caucus. All right, so I just mentioned in the last segment, kind of got started on the whole Hunter Biden pardon thing, which we heard out of the press secretary numerous times, Joe Biden himself. Yeah, we're not going to do that, and yet they did. I'm not shocked, by the way, Jim.
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No, no, it's totally... Totally expected. I mean, from the very beginning, people were haranguing me for saying right after he made the announcement, are you kidding me? He's definitely going to do it. And you had many people on the left who their tweets and other social media posts were saying, you're just being stupid because Joe Biden is a man of integrity and he's going to keep his word and you're beating up. And here he is breaking his word. It's very obvious. And the broad scope of it becomes a real problem, too, and just says a whole lot about what's going on here.
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Yeah, and it'd be interesting to see how, and I had somebody text me that they think that the press secretary and Biden both are out of the country right now, so I doubt there'll be any press conferences in the very near future and all that. I'm sure it was timed properly, Jim, to avoid some of that because, again, you know, Cream, Jean-Pierre, she has said numerous times, I've seen at least four if not five clips of her stating, yeah, quit asking me that question because he's not going to do it. And the fact is that
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Joe Biden is... Politicians tend to lie, right? There are a few really good politicians who don't, but politicians tend to lie. In most cases, when we see that, we don't like it, but we kind of overlook it because they mostly, you know, or many of them really try to say what's going on and try to advance some agenda that they're promoting. Joe Biden is a proven, consistent... persistent liar for his entire political career. This man has undermined and harmed the lives of Americans for his entire professional career, which is all politics. Because, I mean, remember, he was a U.S. Senator at 25 or something like that back... So that's all he's ever done is lie and harm people.
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No, Jim, you're spot on. He's never, number one, never had a real job. He's been in politics... all of his adult life, if you would, maybe a few years prior to that, but let's face it, for his adult life, he's been a politician. The reality is the guy's never worked a full day in his life, and to your point as well, he consistently lies to benefit whatever he feels for himself and his empire needs to happen.
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No doubt about it. And it is about time that he went off of the national stage. It is Still questionable in my mind the fact that he won in 2020, not necessarily because of actual votes stolen, but because of all the changes. in our election process.
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Well, that and Jim, I mean, just this story, this story and what Hunter's getting pardoned over. I mean, there are enough voters out there polled that said in 2020, had they known that wasn't quote unquote Russian disinformation, their vote would have been different. That alone, even outside of the things that you're talking about, the polling showed that just that alone would have been enough to give the election to Donald Trump.
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Absolutely. That is the main bit of election interference. And here's what's even worse. Joe Biden represents, among other well-known politicians like the Clintons and we can name many others, even Barack Obama, in my opinion, he represents a deep corruption in Washington, D.C., that has led to this massive government and massive deficit spending that we've been going through all this century. By the way, keep in mind, the Office of Management and Budget in 2000 and 2001 were projecting our national debt to be paid off by 2013. So that's the environment that we're in here. Even if those numbers hadn't been quite right, that's the track that we were on. The corruption in Washington, D.C., evidenced by the millions of dollars that these politicians make when they go up there. It just shows you why, even though I don't want Donald Trump to get distracted from Doge and all these other things that he's doing and cleaning up The mess in the intelligence agencies, et cetera, et cetera. I don't want to get distracted from that. But we need to root out this corruption at its core. And Joe Biden is still subject to it. Jim Biden is. There are many people who are behind this. And we need to understand what was going on, if not, where appropriate, prosecuting them.
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Yeah. No, I can't argue that at all. And Jim, along the lines of this whole, you know, how bloated things have have gotten. I mean, when you start listening to him, we'll talk about some of these appointees. I mean, some of the appointees in the cabinet are talking about literally breaking up offices in Washington, changing things around completely. dismantling certain agencies and or moving those agencies across the country to where they're no longer going to be centered in Washington, D.C. Jim, these are words that, frankly, nobody there wants to hear that's ingrained in the swamp, if you would.
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As you know, people like you and me have been saying it. I worked for Thomas Massey for a while. He's always said it. I worked for Tim Hulskamp. He was kicked off his committees for saying it. There has been a massive push to destroy anyone who would want to break up this system. We finally seem to have a chance to make some significant progress in destroying this system that has gone so awry, that is against the will of the American people, that looks, by the way, at this latter stage, very much like a banana republic. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say, with all the lawfare and all these government large assets going to people, it's a mess and we've got to clean it.
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I can't – no, Jim, you're spot on. I mean, the reality is it's gotten huge. People that are ingrained in it, of course, that's where their paycheck's coming from. And when I say paycheck, Jim, we're not talking people making $40,000, $50,000 a year. We're talking about people that are making millions of dollars a year off the backs of the American public. And, of course, when there's that much money involved, they don't want to see their golden goose fly off. So the question I have for you, because I – I'm doing my best to try and not get my hopes up too much. I do feel like some of the people that are being appointed, and if we can get them confirmed, I do think they'll be good to their word. I think they'll do some of the things. Some of these folks have been talking about it for a long, long time. This isn't something they just started talking about six months ago, Jim. Some of these folks like you and I have been talking about it for decades. I don't want to get my hopes up, but I do feel like some of these people will be true to their word and will do some of these things.
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There are a lot of them that are going to be quite fantastic. I think Pam Bondi is going to be really good in that position. I'd have preferred to have Matt Gaetz, frankly.
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Yeah, that's where you and I will have to agree to disagree because I don't think Matt is very calculated in what he does. He proved himself that way when he broke up the house. I just don't think Matt's very calculating.
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Well, as I said when he was first nominated, I said, listen, I don't know if he's going to be able to go through a nomination hearing. Just go ahead and recess appoint him, and if I can have him for a year, then I'll be happy. Because there does need to be some breakdown there. And Pam Bondi also has some potential weaknesses as well. But again, they're both... dedicated and loyal to Donald Trump, and that's a positive thing. Cash Patel at FBI, I think, is one of the best nominations that I see out there. Let's put some perspective on Cash Patel. We would not know The corruption in the FOIA process, or not the FOIA process, excuse me, the FISA process, we would not know that without Cash Patel. Not even Devin Nunes would have known it, because no one was telling him. Cash put all the pieces of the puzzle together and figured out what was going on. Plus, he exposed the Russia hoax.
SPEAKER 07 :
for what it is they were they were you know cash isn't stupid i've interviewed him you know numerous times in the past as well as you know folks like yourself i mean cash is a guy that's been around our neck of the woods for a very very long time and he got by the way jim he's another guy that feels like fbi agents in particular why are these guys sitting in an ivory tower in washington why are they not out in the field yeah
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. And he said that, I think, on Sean Ryan's program. And substantively what he's saying, whether the numbers pan out, get all 7,000 out to the field, the fact that we have so many people in the FBI sitting in Washington, D.C., is evidence to the protectionist structure of of these agencies right there is a need for some people in the fbi to be in washington dc for sure of course but it just shows that many of them do you need a tenth of them is the question probably that's about it correct that's right and and so and and you did its structure has changed to supporting the organization and doing these expanded things that are undermining the american people rather than just being real good at finding criminals and they've lost that focus.
SPEAKER 07 :
And by the way, Jim, finding the real criminals, not these fake criminals, you know, some of these no-knock raids and things that we've seen on good, solid conservatives that they should have never been knocking on the door in the first place. I mean, let's get after the real criminals, not these quasi-criminals they claim are.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's exactly right, and it shows and has revealed through the Trump campaigns and the whole Trump phenomenon that there has been an effort to control the American people so that this system in Washington, D.C. can remain as it is. There is a real belief in the executive, and when I say the executive, all the agencies under control of the president. They all believe that they run the country, and whenever I say very clearly that Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution says, the executive power shall be vested in a president of the United States, the president of the United States, whoever that elected person is in for that four-year period, absolute authority over all the executive branch. And when you say that, people always bring up this, well, if you're going to declassify, you got to go through a process. No, the president has no process. Or if the president wants to do this, he's got to have a process. No, he can buck whatever process he wants and say, no, we're going to do it this way. That is how much authority the president has over the executive branch. And we need to reassert that in a very real way. And Congress needs to jump in on the other side, which I have no hope for. I have hope in Donald Trump doing stuff in the executive branch. I have no hope that we're going to see in Washington, even with a Republican Congress, the kind of reform where they will say, listen, we're going to undertake the legislative power, we're going to reassert our legislative authority to constrain the federal government as well. I think we'll get some progress in that, but I don't think it's going to be as massive as what we get in the executive. And that's one of the first steps that we need to undertake. Donald Trump's willing to do it, and I'm really excited. Even with some picks that I'm not real happy about, I'm very excited about the direction that he's taking. And he's going to fulfill what the American people elected him for.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. But in closing, give me one of the picks you don't like.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Chavez de Riemer at Labor. I mean, one of the big problems with the Labor Department is that, amongst many, one of them is the National Labor Relations Board has a lot of authority to cause corporations' problems, and I believe in the right to assemble. Obviously, that's right there in the Constitution. And I'm not against unions as a concept. I am against the fact that we have given unions overbroad ability to organize in corporations.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jim, I'd go one step further and tell you that's one of those agencies we don't even need anymore.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I agree. We totally need to get rid of it. If it stays around, all it's doing is gathering data, and that's it.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. Get rid of it. No offense. You can get that data in other ways. States can formulate that data as well. You could do the same thing with the Department of Labor that you're going to hopefully do with the Department of Education. Get rid of it. Give that power back to the states. You no longer need that on a federal level anyways.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, OSHA, all these things that we do on the federal level that really have no bearing at all upon constitutional authority. And we have, you know, Russ Boat, my good friend who's OMB director, another great pick, by the way, superstar, rock star pick for Office of Management and Budget. But, you know, he always makes the point we're in a post-constitutional republic right now. And I have to agree with that in the technical terms. The question is, will we bring it back to a constitutional republic? I think this is going to be, these next four years are going to be a good first step in that direction, if I'm reading things correctly.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I agree with you. And if it is, it'll free us all. I think you're right. All right, conservative caucus, how do folks find you, Jim?
SPEAKER 08 :
Go to theconservativecaucus.org. That's theconservativecaucus.org. Also follow us on X at TC caucus. And, of course, follow me on X at Jim Paff.
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All right, we are back. Charlie and I talking through the break there a little bit about how, and this is where I had an issue with Matt Gaetz. When you start talking about Doge and coming in and even some of what Kash Patel has talked about when it comes to the FBI and really shaking up some of these departments, some of these agencies, you're going to have backlash. It's going to happen. Now, how do you minimize that? That's where you need to be calculated in your frontal attack strategy. and how you're going to handle certain things and making sure that you've got as many backstops in place to make sure that those things don't happen. It's not as simple as just shutting down something. This is the federal government we're talking about. The powers that be, as we would say over the years. The reality is a lot of these folks, they have been entrenched. They're ingrained. It's their entire life. In some cases, it's more than one generation even that have been in some of those departments and agencies. Keep that in mind. and I'm not joking when I say this, you'll find in some particular situations where, you know, granddad did something and so did son, and now also the grandson does. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. Some of these, literally, it's been their entire life. Just like when somebody becomes a union member, so does son, so does grandson, and so on. It's no different than working in some of these government agencies. And part of that's because when you've got an in, quote-unquote, It's easy to get the next one in and the next one and so on. And so, yes, some of these things are deeply ingrained into even families. And just the sheer talk of shutting some of these things down, I am sure, is sending shivers down the spines of a lot of individuals because everything they've come to know might be ending. So your point being. You're going to have to be very calculated in how you do things. Now, there's some things you could easily just, you know, and let me talk about this a little bit through the rest of the show today. But some of them, you know, some of the, Charlie and I were talking grants, subsidies, some of these things that are out there, you know, those are some of the easy, low-hanging fruit. governmental buildings that are empty, that you're paying rent on, that you may not even own the ground, or if you do, you sell the building off and put that money back into the treasury. That's the low-hanging fruit. That stuff's easy. You're going to tick off a few people in doing that because there's some folks that are, again, probably managing a building. They're handling that empty building. Again, their life revolves around some of these things, and yes, you're going to upset the apple cart with some of that. But that's a lot different than taking X amount of FBI agents and putting them out into the field and not having them in the home office. And, and, and, and, and. I mean, you start talking about shutting down complete three-letter agencies. That is a huge shakeup. Just moving the offices outside of D.C. is a huge shakeup. Now, I do believe that if you were to take an agency and move it out of Washington and go put it where it's more suited, you'll have a certain amount of attrition because some folks just won't move. You're going to have some that are close to retirement that are like, yeah, I love D.C. I'm not moving to Colorado. Maybe that's where you put the Department of Interior, for example, which they've done some of those things in the past. BLM offices have already done some of that over the years and so on. But there's all sorts of other things you could do along those lines. And there's all sorts of different states that you could put some of those agencies in relatively easily, and it would be better suited to have them there than in D.C. So you start talking about some of that. Again, you need to be calculated and looking at, okay, where are all these workers at? What's the age group of the workers that are here? What's the likelihood that some of these workers will move forward? Now, this is one thing that I will tell you that will most likely happen. And a lot of people, even in the conservative community, don't like. But it's called AI, artificial intelligence. And it's getting more and more powerful every day. Now, you insert some of what I just said, feed the data of what I just said into AI and say, OK, what's our likelihood of we shut down this agency? What's the likelihood? What's the retirement factor going to look like? AI can give you that answer. It can run through all the different algorithms and look at people's age and how long they've been there and where do they live and where does their family live and blah, blah, blah. And it can spit out, this is the percentage of people that most likely won't move. That's one of the areas you could use AI in. And it's interesting. I watched some videos over the weekend whereby there's some talk, and I've not verified this, but there's some talk out there that ultimately government wants to control all of AI. They want it to be three to four companies max, and they want to control all of it. Now, with what I just said, of course they do. Think about that. They know some of this stuff is coming, and if government wants to keep its swamp going, it would want to control AI for the very reasons I just explained a moment ago. If AI could come in and say, we could shrink this particular department, this three-letter agency, we could shrink it to X, and here's the cost-benefit analysis of doing so, and AI could spit that out in minutes, if not hours at most, of course government wants to control that. Absolutely. Why would they want that in private hands? They wouldn't. So is it true that government wants to control AI? Absolutely. I'm not even going to call that conspiratorial. Common sense would tell you, of course they want to. Of course they want to. They watched the Internet get developed and sort of took a hands-off approach to it. And they did that in a lot of ways with social media and so on. Now, they really tried to invest and get a handle on social media, and they did a good job of that, by the way, in 2020. It has since fallen apart with the entrance of Elon Musk into Twitter. And they lost that foothold, if you would. And by the way, it had a huge impact on this last election. So government tried to do their best to control that end of it, but they didn't really do a good job of it on the onset. So do I believe that they are meddling in AI right now, trying their best to control the outcome of? Yes, I firmly believe that. Is that conspiratorial? No, I think that's just common sense. Why would they want it any other way? When you look at the tools... that an agency like Doge will now have a tool called AI and the ability to do some of the things I just explained a few minutes ago, why would government want Doge having that? When your very existence relies on you coming to X office or remotely working or doing whatever it is that you do, and your whole family's existence relies on this particular agency and or department, why would you want to see that let go? You're going to do every single thing you possibly can to hang on to it. Now, Charlie was right during the break. You guys didn't hear this. But some of the retaliation that will also happen out of shutting some of these things down, yes, that will be huge. Mark my words. And the powers that be right now, the Trump cabinet, is going to have to figure out how do we on the front side handle what I know is going to be some of these things that happen. The Elon Musks of the world, by the way, understand that. When he laid off all of the folks at Twitter that he did, I'm sure there was retaliation. There was. We saw it in the news. Does he know how to handle these things? Yeah. Yeah. Of course, Elon's also a guy with SpaceX that has some internal things going on that he would not want exposed because he's the only guy I've ever known, ever seen in history that can land a rocket. Send it to space and reland it in the same place it took off from. That's an achievement all in and of itself, and I'm sure there's some very classified things he has, some key documents that he has that make all of that happen that he doesn't want just in anybody's hands. So retaliation, yes, he knows about it. Will there be some of that in the shutting down of some government agencies? There absolutely will. We'll come back. I've got another full hour coming your way. I've got one little segment right after this. American National Insurance is next. Paul Leuenberger, my good friend, wants to help you with all of your insurance needs. He will broker out whatever you need and find what best insurance fits you. 303-662-0789.
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All right, we are back. That's about it for this first hour. Two more hours coming your way. And I think when I come back, I'm going to talk about somebody. One of you sent me a video on airport civil asset takeovers, I guess you could say, forfeitures. Interdictions, they call them. That was an interesting video that you sent me. I don't know that I'll play it, but I want to explain some of what may be happening in that arena as soon as we come back. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
