In this enlightening episode, host Reggie Rocco is joined by Kane, the founder of Task Force Freedom, as they discuss pressing issues affecting America's educational system. They delve into controversial subjects such as the inclusion of inappropriate materials in school curriculums and the impact of legal hypocrisies. Kane sheds light on the mission of Task Force Freedom to protect children from indoctrination and outlines the alarming presence of materials that many would consider pornographic. The conversation extends beyond the confines of the classroom, touching on societal attitudes and the historical underpinnings that have shaped current-day America. Reggie and Kane navigate through complex subjects like historical welfare policies and their effects on family dynamics, particularly within African American communities. This episode is packed with insights and calls for awareness and action from both parents and educators. Listeners are encouraged to explore the systemic issues at play, understand the nation's deep-rooted cultural and legal challenges, and reflect on personal and communal responsibilities in safeguarding the future of our children.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's up? What's up? What's up? You tuned in to 560 KLZ. KLZ. I'm a uniter. I'm a uniter. I'm your host, Reggie Rocco. Yeah. KLZ. Yeah. Yeah. So what about now? We want everybody. I mean, everybody stand up. Stand up. Hold your hands up high. Lock arms. This is about America, baby. We bringing people together. I'm a United.
SPEAKER 01 :
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
SPEAKER 04 :
Woo! Yeah, I'm a Uniter. Bye, CTKLZ. Of course, this is Reggie Rocco, and then you know who the man is on the other side of the glass, behind the board, Lukey Luke, what's up? Oh, another beautiful day, Reggie. Now, it's getting a little warmer, right? Not for long. No, no, don't say that.
SPEAKER 01 :
What's up? Reggie, we're going into winter. It's not going to get warm for a little while, bud. We got all of December and January and February to get through.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but I thought it was global warming and all that stuff. It ain't working for me, huh? Not working in your favor. Is that another situation that's untrue, global warming? I don't know, man. I'm not a scientist. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. Well, hey, man, you know, we got somebody in the studio today listening to the show. And, of course, he's been on Kim's show. And you know who this man is. But I'll let him introduce himself because he's on the United show. Now, I told him how we roll. He know, though. How we roll. So what's up, big dog? Introduce yourself. Thanks, Reg.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I'm Kane. I'm with Task Force Freedom. I'm the founder of Task Force Freedom. We're at TaskForceFreedomNoCode.com. And what we do is we fight to protect our kids from the government school. We fight the teachings of critical race theory, social emotional learning. The DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion stuff, the sexual grooming of kids, the pornography, which most people don't know and they're not aware. But there's hundreds and hundreds of pornographic books in our government school. And so our main objective is to protect the kids. And we say all the time, take your children out of the government schools. They are not safe. They're indoctrination centers. And at some point, you will see how it harms your kids.
SPEAKER 04 :
So when you say pornography, okay, Luke, do I need a disclaimer? No, no, I don't want a disclaimer. I don't want a disclaimer. But it'll probably be one before the day is out. Are you saying actual porno?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm saying – so when I say it's pornography, it is described by Colorado law. I can give you the actual quote for Colorado law. It is – Section 18-7-502, which describes what pornography is. And then there's a federal law, which is Title 18, Section 1466A, which describes what pornography is. So pornography can be... illustrations. So if you have, I'm going to try to keep it as clean as I can. If you have an illustration of, and this is in one of the books called Gender Queer. Let me say this. If you go to our website, If you go to our website and you look up the schools, the school district under one of the tabs, you can go to a school and you can look up the books that are there. One of the books that are there is called Genderqueer. In Genderqueer, there's an illustration of an adult male with an erection fondling what appears to be maybe a 12 or 13-year-old little boy. with an erection, and that is in middle schools.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so why would that be in any school, even high school, because you have to be 18 at least?
SPEAKER 05 :
And so what happens here in Colorado, there was a case law from 19, I want to say 85, and it was tattered... Tattered cover versus Thule. And that case law basically said these materials, it's a first amendment right. And these materials are allowed to be in the government schools. Here's the tricky thing. I can take this book called gender queer and go to a child in a school and give it to them and go, Hey, let's look through this book. If I take that very same book and we go across the street to a parking lot, I just committed a crime, a misdemeanor.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hmm. So hypocrisy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hypocrisy and bias. It's insane that we so-called learned adults would allow children. to look at porn. This is straight up pornography, whether it's illustrations or if it's the text.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, okay, a lot of that you have to be at home. I remember my father brought me some book called The Joy of Sex. And he sat down with me and he went through this and blah, blah, blah. I don't know, was it a father thing? It was illustrations, and I really didn't know what the heck, what I was looking at or whatever. But I was older. But it's crazy to even imagine something like that would be with little –
SPEAKER 05 :
So most parents are really not aware of what these, I call them government schools. They're indoctrination centers. They're really not aware of what these schools are doing to their kids. I heard this on a podcast recently. A person asked this gentleman, would you allow a grown man to talk to your 10-year-old daughter about giving fellatio well about performing would you allow a grown man to do that and he says of course not well there are books in our schools that take little kids and specifically teach them and show them how to give fellatio how to perform fellatio
SPEAKER 04 :
So anyone who knows me knows that I have three things that I will go to war for, and I mean right now, today. And that's kids, the elderly, and my mother. And my mother is no longer with us. The rest of us all, I love you. I love to think about you every day. And I just don't play when it comes to that. So I tell Luke all the time, hey, man, make sure you raise the bail money. Because if I run across a situation like that, because I've already in Atlanta came across different situations like that where they, it's like, Reg, I'm like, man, I'm not going to get that kid off your lap. That ain't your kid. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know what I'm saying? I know maybe the mom don't know and the other kid's here and all that, and you with this kid on your lap. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know you gay. I mean, we're getting into the line. I think our country has been trying to destroy us men to take away our masculinity.
SPEAKER 04 :
Emasculation? Yes. What is it? Emasculation? Oh, well. okay black is the new orange okay so orange is the is it the prison yes sir and then now black is the new gay I mean I have a ton of stories it's so bad in Atlanta well at first it wasn't it was 22 fine women to every man right but then 10 years you know everything you start finding out everything that's in the industry which I've I've talked about it so much on the show and I I'm not wrong, man. I'm never wrong. Well, Luke going to have to check me. But, dude, I'm never wrong. And if I am, somebody come. Because I be telling these people what is really going on. Right. Because there's a whole back scene.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know about the back scene? Yes, sir. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Talk a little bit about it. So understand this. Everything that's happening to our culture today. You can look back and look at the American Negro and what has happened to us the last 50, 60 years. Everything that's occurring today has already happened to us.
SPEAKER 04 :
They thought we were too violent, like animals. Like China is the worst. They got libraries with pictures of us next and museums with pictures of us next to animals, right? So you want to talk about the racism. I tell everybody, it ain't the white people. China is the worst. The worst that I'm passing. But there's even one that I talk about all the time that's worse than Asian relationships with blacks. And that is the black woman. Now, am I tripping?
SPEAKER 05 :
You speaking the truth, bro. I mean, you're not going to get an argument from me. But there's a reason why that has occurred. The reason why it occurred was LBJ back in the 60s with his social welfare program came up and says, hey, we're going to give these black women, we're going to give these poor women money, but Bubba can't be in the house. And that was the downfall. And so at some point, women, black women, poor women realized, oh, I don't need that man anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can get food stamps. You can get welfare. Housing. You can get housing. You can get all of that. You can get money coming through, but you can't have them in the house. And then you get child support. Perfect. you know kids so that's what they invented the baby daddy they they don't understand CD the system hasn't caught up but really what's going on see now in our culture and I can say that you know it probably exists in other culture but really in our culture because being in the entertainment industry they don't understand the game that the evilness that takes place in there and so you sit up there and you start figuring out these laws and how to work with them and beat them and then they turn around instead of using them against The white people, they come and bring them on us. And so people will be like, how do you know the jokes with the father being in the home and not being there and all the black father. They don't even understand the real thing is that it's because the laws and whoever designed these laws. Because I just can't believe that it's just white people that designed these laws that weren't gay. Well, these these laws are crazy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Understand this, that the social welfare laws that were implemented in the 60s were supported by black folk. OK, so it was black people that says, yeah, that's a good idea. Let's just give people because they look at this.
SPEAKER 04 :
They look at it. I can get this free money. I'm getting this free money. It was nothing about a they didn't understand. Like I say every day, like if you. teach me how to fish i can survive for the rest of my life but if you're giving me the fish all the time and you decide to say you know what today i ain't gonna do it and i'm hungry i'm like and i'm not gonna get you no no more you're stuck you're stuck and they know that and it's done on purpose so why is it why is it and we'll you know with this we'll talk about this the black woman accept that deal And then turn around and use this monstrous system against your own people. Then they got them set up to where they thinking that abortion is great. So now, and then the other part of the prisons is mostly black people that look like us. So you got, you killing the babies, you killing us financially and trying to put us in jail. And then the ones that are out here jailing. So here's a problem where black people went wrong and where my mom kept me so, so good. so strong, so powerful is that I was like, okay, I don't need the money. I'm not gonna sell my soul, I'm not gonna blah, blah, blah, blah. So there's nothing that you can do for me. Success is like beauty in the eye of the beholder. So you have to understand when you're talking to somebody like me, yeah, I done been to the mountaintop, down, up, you can't take none of it with you. I ain't never seen a hearse followed by a U-Haul on anybody, so you can't get me with that. But I look at the women and I ask them like, don't you see what's going on? I had told stories on here where I could go outside and the grass is green. And I'll tell my black woman, wow, that grass is green. And you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's related to the Kentucky bluegrass, blah, blah, blah. The first thing she says is, how do you know? Blah, blah, blah, blah. But a white guy come out and say, That grass is green. It sure is.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it goes back to the 60s where they separated the man and the woman, showed the black woman that she didn't need him. I've seen beautiful black women, man, say, I don't need no man. They don't. And today they think the same thing. But it's more than just not needing a man. Your baby needs a dad. Yeah, yeah. Your children need a father. This is the reason why the prisons are full of black men. Hear me out. Women, when they raise men, they raise emotional beings.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what we call them? Do you know what we call them? A woman, a male kid raised by a woman? What do we call them? I can't say this word, so we'll call it a B, as in a female dog. Yes. Jigga. Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what we call them. So what happens is when men are raised by women, they become emotional beings. Right. But they're full of testosterone. So the emotion now is going to be expressed in violence.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. So with that emotion, exactly, and guess what else, what that emotion does. So if you have your black woman that's always telling you, You ain't nothing. I can make more money without you. The system wants to give me this. I get kids. I have blah, blah, blah. I can get all this money and you blah, blah, blah. I'm better without you. Then the emotion in those men, they turn around and they be like, I got to do something. I got to make some money. So the first thing they do is they turn to crime and they turn to selling drugs so they can make them feel like something. But the first person they're trying to impress is the one that's tearing them down, which is a black woman. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, I'm going to agree with you to a certain extent. However, the man still needs to take responsibility for his children. I don't care how crazy your baby mamas are. If you've got four or five of them, take care of your children. You're destroying your future and the future of this country.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so let me push back on that. So I've been in situations where we're on the road. And let's just say Usher concert, right? And other groups opening up and everything, right? And, you know, the parties that take place in Hollywood, the P. Diddy parties and all that. They're everywhere. P. Diddy is not the only one by far. Nah, nah, nah. I've been to a few myself. Never with no kids and stuff like that. But you know freak parties. In the club, everything. But what happens is, The women don't do anything. So the women are groupies. You got 20,000 of them, whatever. You got five, two, three, four, 500 trying to get back to Usher. The first thing they do, first of all, they're dressed like so provocative. And then the second thing they do is they got to get – first thing they got to do is get past the security. So the security is making a deal to get the number that I'm about to take out there. Then once you get past the security, now you got to go to the manager, the road manager. And the role manager makes his deal, says he's fine, blah, blah, blah, blah. I might take her in the back, whatever, blah, blah, blah. And they go through all that before they finally get to us. And then when they get to us, they may get with them, they may not. But the ones that do, and I'm talking about football, basketball, entertainers, all of that. Then, you know, you have relations with this chick. But one of my partners, and I won't say partner, he's a friend, an associate in the business. He, you know, was doing his thing, went to sleep. Woke up and found her digging in the trash for the contraceptive. Of course. And with a turkey baster. Yep. Syphoning and injecting, trying to get pregnant because her mentality is that's 18 to 21 years of a lotto ticket. That's right. That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that happens. It happens. It happens quite often, actually.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Quite often. But it's... I mean, it's like a downgrade of society, man. So we look to Hollywood. I know you're from that area in the industry. It is as fake. Fake? So I worked in Hollywood. I think I told you I did some law enforcement and security work and personal protection and everything. You go to Hollywood, Hollywood Boulevard or the Walk of the Stars. The Star of Hollywood, the Walk of Fame. So when they go out there and they're going to put a new star in, they get rid of all that trash. Yeah, it's trash.
SPEAKER 04 :
And feces.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. But about 12 o'clock at night, 1 o'clock in the morning, you get to see what Hollywood is. Oh, yeah. It's disgusting. Disgusting. It's a ghetto. Hollywood's a ghetto. And so we, as regular humans, look at Hollywood like, oh, I want to be that. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it is pure evil. You know, they hire a serious cleaning crew to just not just clean it, but to have pressure wash it and sanitize it. And then they have the granite blaster, concrete blasters, all that stuff to put that to work.
SPEAKER 05 :
But all of that stuff is done to keep us in check, man, to keep us in line, to keep us on that same path that they want us to go down. And all of it has to do with destroying society and destroying our country. Because if we can make the people just be blind followers.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it's good talking to another black man, especially one that's prestigious.
SPEAKER 05 :
I consider myself a Negro. I consider myself a Negro, but that's okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
But behind the behind the nose things and all that, because now, you know, I keep it real. Women like there's women like that all the time that are trying to go dig and get the money. I'm just saying we're since we're talking in our culture, in our race, what I know, what you know, what we know on different levels from behind the scenes and why we can answer some of the questions that my white friends ask me and they joke around. You know how you can tell, I don't even remember the jokes. Somebody in the house, no daddy. What's the difference between a white man and a black man? And then so they had this white dude open up the door and the kid said, daddy. You know, all that. And it's funny.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's funny. It's funny. You gotta laugh.
SPEAKER 04 :
But they don't understand the reason. And I even go way, way back, but the Willie Lynch theory, Willie Lynch letter, I mean, it comes in there because slavery was a horrible thing. Trademarks, copyrights, you know, and I don't know how many bills I have to pay and if I owe somebody something, they coming at me all the time. You know, I don't have intellectual property. That's how I got with Trump. Asians grabbed me big time. And the bottom line is, I like to keep that same energy.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's funny you say this because I own an innovation company. I have four patents and I'm working on another one. And my attorney's down in the Springs and I ask him, I'm like, how do I protect my intellectual properties from the Chinese? That's what he told me. He goes, you don't. He goes, they can go on and look at every single patent that we have and they will sell it to billions of Chinese before you even know that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you know what my attorney told me? He said, do you have a team of lawyers? Nope. Do you have the U.S. government army behind you and Navy and Air Force? Nope. Nope. Forget about it. Because you ain't getting it. There's nothing you can do. I'm like, well, me, that could set me up for the rest of my life. I'd rather take and go to the, you know, something I can do, something I can, you know, I'm single and I'm going to do my thing. I'm trying to get better and better. But I can have some, the point is I could do what I want to do with my money and help who I want and do what I want besides having your intellectual properties and your trading arts and your patents stolen. So how do you feel? Because I'm a conservative and a Republican, but they all know, everybody that knows me, is I 100% believe in reparations.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because when you're in a business like mine, and we've been in the poor neighborhoods. We grew up poor. So when you're taught to do the right thing and you do something and you invent something that's yours, you expect to get paid on it like your white friend. Right. Like his ancestors handed down company after company. Kroger's was like 1806 or something crazy, you know. All this money being passed down, but a lot of the stuff that we did was stolen. I get that. And I can't go back two, three generations before I'm lost, dude.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I'm probably going to disagree with you because I don't believe in reparations.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let me tell you why I do and you tell me why you don't. Okay. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If I come in right now today and steal your patent and your trademark right now today, how are you going to feel and what are you going to do? Right. Color off the board. Take color away. Right and wrong.
SPEAKER 05 :
So after we were freed, freed slaves were offered land.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mm hmm.
SPEAKER 05 :
They were offered – actually, they were – they say – what is it? 40 acres and a mule. I'm not even saying that. I'm saying that they were offered land, but they had to go and occupy the land for five years, and it would become – and they had to work the land for five years, and it would become theirs. And the majority of them didn't want to do it. So let me say this. Okay, go ahead. So reparations. I'm going to say yes, but who should pay it? Here's a question. Should the Africans that stole my ancestors pay, the ones who sold me to the Portuguese, or should the white people that received me in this continent, in this country, pay?
SPEAKER 04 :
Who should pay? Okay, so let me get down. Let me get down. I love this stuff. So... Any fool would know, didn't know five ships full of white boys go over to Africa with them stupid A guns that you had to take out a piece of cloth, put some gunpowder in it, put a steel metal ball in it, then wrap that up, then take another stick or something and jam it down the barrel to engage, and then cock it and then shoot. Now you doing that, and I got a million Africans. With spears. With spears, I'm going to have like... 20 inside of you like before that so obviously it was some type of negotiations going on so i understand that part but it was every it was africans that stole people from my tribe and they
SPEAKER 05 :
Took the women and the kids and they sold me to the Portuguese.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they put me on the ship.
SPEAKER 05 :
So when there's reparations, who should pay it?
SPEAKER 04 :
All of them. So what I look at is, okay, y'all, but what's the difference now? What do I talk about to this day? How black men, I always tell Luke, we can never work together. They vote black Democrat, born black Democrat all the time. They want to stun onions instead of working together. That's why these Hispanics and everybody got so much even in their own countries because their women are loyal to them. Yeah. They are loyal. They help 10 of them be in the house. So that big rent payment's down to nothing. But us, first, when we get some money, the first thing we want to do is get all the stuff and then come in the black neighborhood and say, look at me, look at me. See, I was never born that way. So I have to think differently when it comes to reparations and referencing me.
SPEAKER 01 :
I get it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because I... live the straight and arrow life. So I like fairness. I hate when something is not fair. So if you are going, and then I sit here and I watch billions of dollars go to Ukraine, Taiwan, the Jews, and the Asians, most people, I know black people don't know, we had concentration camps here in Arizona in World War I, wasn't it? And they all got a check. Here's your check. Nah, dude. A million, I ain't going to say what it is because it might be FBI.
SPEAKER 05 :
So from slavery, from the end of slavery to the 60s, black people had the greatest growth in the history of mankind. Black Wall Street. History of mankind. Yes. I'm a huge follower of Thomas Sowell. I own probably 10 of his books. Okay. We had the greatest growth in the history of mankind. 80% had a mom and dad. Black Wall Street. We had our own towns, our own businesses. We were upwardly mobile until the social welfare programs. We, it's a struggle, but how, how do we, how do, how do I, how do I pay? Because the reparations is coming from all of us. Okay. So how do I pay?
SPEAKER 04 :
So is Ukraine. So, so is Israel. So is all of them, but is all coming from us.
SPEAKER 05 :
I, I, I'm going to agree with you. If we can send those monies to these foreign countries, then we can take care of all Americans.
SPEAKER 04 :
But you know what I never hear? All Americans. You know what I never hear? And I never hear it to this day. All I hear is all the equipment and the money we left in Afghanistan, all the money in Ukraine, all the money in Israel, all the money in Taiwan, all everywhere. And I never hear it until Trump came in and talked about, pay us our money.
SPEAKER 05 :
Pay us our money.
SPEAKER 04 :
How are you going to do it? Is there a plan to pay all this money back that they took us from that's in Ukraine?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, pay us back.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't ever hear it. But don't let it be me. Don't let it be me. Sometimes I look like me. Trust me. They coming for their money.
SPEAKER 05 :
Here's the problem. We have, as Malcolm X said, we have been bamboozled and we've been hoodwinked by the Democrat Party. Malcolm X, he didn't like Republicans, but he despised Democrats. He despised them. Here's the thing. 200 black men, women, and children are killed every single, every week. About 8,000 to 10,000 blacks are killed every single year. We got the black caucus.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you're not counting the abortions. You're just counting. No, I'm counting murders.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're counting murders.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, go.
SPEAKER 05 :
The abortions, 6% of the population is responsible for a third of all abortions. All abortions. Which was done on purpose. Which was done specifically to destroy black folk. specifically to destroy black folks.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm about to go off up in here, yo. But knowing that, right? So knowing that, knowing how somebody was pulling the trigger.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
So I don't know. I sit here and I say, okay, so white people control this. But then I said, I can't see a white man, unless it's just pure hatred, implementing these laws to destroy us. Well, one of the things is fear, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
It was actually a white woman, but yeah, Margaret Sanger.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. See, I'm up with her.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
But the thing back in the day, you know, they feared. When you talk about the 40 acres and the mule, look about this. When they freed us, okay, you got all these black people roaming around. But I didn't hear anything, and correct me if I'm wrong, that it said in those laws, you got to give them a job. And frankly, they didn't know what to do with us. Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
So letting us free. That's why a lot of them say, hey, I was better off back at the plantation. And a lot of them stayed. You can't be enslaved for 200 years.
SPEAKER 04 :
So it's a joke, man. And even though it's a joke, I'm glad. But who at least went and fought and died? There's a lot of white people that did this, that fought and died for us to even be free. They couldn't finish it all the way. We got the free. So, hey, we got the chains off of you, but... We tried, but there's nothing else we can do. Well, man, that's still a form of death. That's still a form of punishment. So I don't even know how, because if you're not guaranteed or you're not allowed to hire these people or do anything, then you're free, but you're roaming around like animals.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. And I understand your point when you're saying reparations, but I just don't want to, how can you punish me because you're going to take my tax dollars And then you've got to determine who was a slave, because there's black folks here who were never slaves in this country.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't care. I know we $800 billion or something. What's the billions of dollars we've just given this year, the couple years, to Ukraine? And it's done? So look at all the money with the immigrants right now. Right now. Freaking now. They don't get no money back.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm going to agree with you. I just disagree with it should be reparations. It should be for every citizen, every legal citizen of this country, whatever they're sending out to other countries, that should be used for us.
SPEAKER 04 :
You definitely need to help. They hear me say that. Americans, I'm America American. Right. You're not just going to gloss over taking my uncles or my great, great inventions and all the things that I know. And so there's one thing about what puts fear about the black man, fear of the black hat, because, yeah, we're athletic. We're strong. We're fast. We're smart. All these things we do. We're very, very creative people. Our culture right now, even in the hood, our economics, we spend more money than any other.
SPEAKER 05 :
We do. We're consumers. I've said this many times. What is it about the Democrat Party where they're so afraid of the black man?
SPEAKER 04 :
They're afraid, dude.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're terrified. They've been doing everything they can to destroy us and to draw a dotted line. Everything they've done to us is now what they're trying to do to the entire country.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly. And that's where I come in. I got white, black, Hispanic, all kinds. I even got Asian. It's a melting pot. So it's not a color for me. I could close my eyes and never have to see. But if you tell me, you call me up, Reg. Such and such stole my bicycle. Such and such stole my car. Stole my invention. Stole my copyright. Stole my music. I'm not thinking about color. I'm thinking about right or wrong. And there's no forgiveness. There's no forgiveness with this. I guarantee you, I guarantee you, and my trust, the only trust I really have on this subject that would sit down and talk and I would go with what he say is one person. That's Trump. Ain't nobody else. Nobody else can tell me nothing. Trump knows. Trump was a superstar, not just a rich guy. He was a superstar in the entertainment business. He knows. I think they hate him so much is because he's going to reveal What he knows behind the scenes.
SPEAKER 05 :
He knows where the bones are buried.
SPEAKER 04 :
He knows where all the bones are. And he knows how this thing's working. He knows. I could care less about his personal life when it comes to whatever. Please, please put a camera on me. Follow me around. What's today? Friday? Do it today. Do it today. I don't bite my tongue, yo. Right, right. I'm me. And I'm very, very, very proud of my record. And I'll put it up against... They mirror everybody. Because even when you talk about the Catholics, well, it's over 10,000 cases of child molestation with the Catholics.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not to mention their dealings with the Nazis.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, yes. So I don't want to hear that thou is greater than thou, you know, everything. And I'm telling you, I'm a person of life, so I don't look at it. I love Israel, but I love Palestine. i love the yankees and i love the red sox so it's possible you know i i look i come from a different situation like okay yeah a lot of this above my pay grade but i'd have to sit down with historians and say okay well who was really in israel or palestine first who was first okay you know and let's go from there and and and Because America was built on blood and tyranny. Every single thing about this country I was put together was built on murder and death and crime.
SPEAKER 05 :
And so I would agree with you, but I would also say all cultures are that way. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Before we got here, the Native Americans were killing each other. They called us buffalo soldiers in the war, right? Now, how do you do that? So here's another thing. We need to pay them. I know we didn't take care of all of our bets, but it's an extra oomph. Where I got to go over and fight for my country and I got to prove myself 10 times more than the average white soldier. And then we do all this and we become friends. You fight through all that because I know how that feels from going to an all-white school. They hated me and didn't even know why they hated me. So when I go through all that and all these heroes over there fighting, they got together, they did what they're supposed to do. then we come to our home, our country, and I can't go into the same restaurant? I can't drink at the same fountain? See, what America's society has to do, because it's not about the money. It's about the respect. And any time you sit down and you talk in the barbershop or you get black people and they come together behind the scenes, they all say it. They don't care what. They all say it is that they don't feel loved, appreciated, and respected. And that money will solve. I mean, I would do it. I write a check and say, okay, we did this. Half of what we did in Ukraine is here. We're done. Let's go to a new chapter in history. End it. I guarantee you, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I mean, clearly we have the money or we can borrow the money to do it. So if we can... I mean, I'm going to agree with you to the point of sending all this money abroad. Then if we can send the money abroad, we can use it here to take care of these veterans and citizens. And I wouldn't say... Because you have to be careful when you just start giving people money.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, that's not giving. When you steal from me, and then we ain't even talking about. Is there a statute on murder?
SPEAKER 05 :
There's no statute of limitation on murder.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
There's not.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do I need to say anything else? There's no statute. Can we get somebody? Can we get something for all the killing? I've seen stuff, you know, drawings and books and reading where you got a horse on this side. You take a black man and his left foot. It's quartering. It's called quartering. Okay. Yeah, quartering. And then you go, yeah! And you watch those two big, powerful beasts rip this man in half. Yes. If I had a nuclear bomb on that day, It wouldn't have been no more Caucasians on the earth because that is what would have happened to me then. So all those years of coming together and all the sacrifice and blood and tyranny, yes, you have to look at certain things, I believe, overall in reference to one, America. People hear me talk about America and Americans first. Now, we're all different. Cultures are different. But I have Indian friends. I have Indian friends that got Walmart cards. that say sovereign citizen and no taxes. I was with them. He walked into Walmart, buying all this stuff, pulled out his card, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, no taxes. I said, why is this? Because the white man took all our stuff. They killed us and murdered us and took all our land. This was all ours. So we got treaties. I'm like, well, that's reparations. You got casinos, you got all this stuff. What do I got?
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, I can see that. I can see that. I'm probably not going to agree with you on the reparations piece. I see your point.
SPEAKER 04 :
What is it called if you come in and you murder and you take somebody's land and you murder them by taking it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so here's my question for you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
What is it called if you have three, four, five, six generations getting welfare, getting food stamps, getting all of these social programs for decades and decades and decades? Could that be considered reparation?
SPEAKER 04 :
Nope, because it's the morals and the ethics why. They did that not out of love. They did that out of hate. They did that to destroy, to divide the black family. They didn't do it out of love and say, hey, you guys stay together. Here you go, blah, blah. They was like, hey, pull in the black woman over here. Take all this, take all this. As long as you get him out. Because we can't beat him up. We can't outrun them. We can't do it. We afraid of this dude.
SPEAKER 05 :
But it's still money that they didn't earn.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, definitely. They didn't earn. But I'm looking in Congress right now where all these people come in making $50,000 leaving the $100 million. I'm looking at all the copyrights and all the insider trading that exists by the whole, and I don't know, it's mostly on the left, that's for sure. But the bottom line is, I look at it, ain't nobody, None of them. I don't care what color or race you are. Perfect. And you're all guilty of either some type of crime or some type of morals or injustice that's been done.
SPEAKER 05 :
So let me ask you this. I love this conversation, by the way. Let me ask you this. So Negroes, I'm a Negro, have been killing each other for decades and decades. My, the thousands, tens, hundreds of thousands. 20 years ago, should the families get reparations from the government for allowing that to happen?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, because you don't do it that way. What you do, you do the same thing that all these gay people are doing. You're talking about trans this. It's mental. It's mental. It's mental illness that's been put on them. It's mental illness from the suffering. It's mental illness from looking at when you go to a graduation and you graduate and you're getting... a bill not a will your friends are driving off in porsches and benzes and everything and you're getting a bicycle you see what i'm saying and then and anything i like common sense i like the same energy so we line up on a race and we say on your marks cassette go but my hands are tied my feet are shackled i'm getting killed beat anything i do come up with getting taken 400 year head start
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, I've heard this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Who can't make it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I've heard this. Even odds. Here's the thing. We did make it up until the 60s throughout slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK. We were doing, as a culture, as a people, we were doing better as a people prior to the 60s. Yes, we were. But we were going through all of that insanity. Why is that? You have said it because we're strong like that. We're going to get it done, period. So what has happened? We've gotten soft. We've conformed to what the government wants us to do. And so for me, it's hard to have that argument.
SPEAKER 04 :
Black men have been brokenhearted, though. I don't think they've been attacked from everybody, everybody, everybody. And even though we're strong, you could be an elephant, but a trillion fire ants are going to take you down. Like if everybody's against you, and no matter how strong you are, Strength is in numbers, man. That's the reason. It's a mental health thing when it comes to our community, why we're like this, why we are. But if we can take that, learn from it. solve it get everybody that's guilty in whatever situation to come in apologize i want a mural i want i want some some money i want i want some other stuff statue you know not that one that they be making of these nfl players have you seen them oh man i'm like is this a racial thing i ain't never seen a white dude with a bad statue
SPEAKER 05 :
Did you see the statue of Martin Luther King that came out about a year ago? In what city? I want to say it's in Atlanta.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
If you look at it, a certain angle, it looks like a phallic symbol. Man. Tell me that's not done on purpose. Yes. And you have to demonize the man who calls for equality.
SPEAKER 04 :
Peace, equality. I heard that there's supposed to be some stuff coming out on him. I don't know. He's a man. He's a human. It wouldn't surprise me. I don't apologize. I don't apologize.
SPEAKER 05 :
I've been saying I'm single every day. He's a human. And not to mention, if we talk about Martin Luther King, what the FBI was sending him. I'm not saying they were prostitutes, but they wore the prostitute uniform.
SPEAKER 01 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dude, that's how you do it. That's how you get to them. You send the money, the drugs, the women. So if you're not strong.
SPEAKER 05 :
A perfect example is Trump. Okay. Uh-oh.
SPEAKER 04 :
Uh-oh.
SPEAKER 05 :
He is a flawed human, just like you and I. Okay. And they brought up stuff from his past. They keep calling them racist. They don't even talk about the black women he's dated. Right. Or the black people he's helped. Or the ones that he's helped. But God uses flawed men. Right. It wouldn't surprise me if the FBI or they released some stuff on Martin Luther King to make us despise him because what they're teaching in our schools... They can't with that guy being the symbol of freedom and liberty.
SPEAKER 04 :
Man, that's my dude. I always say he's the new father of America. But when you come into, it's a lot, a lot goes a long way when you say, I'm sorry. And you say, how can I do this? How can I make, that goes a long way. Like we just watched in court with the little girl that was murdered. You know, they all wanted justice, and they listened to that court trial and all that, and that illegal alien and everything that went wrong. There was a whole bunch of people who had blood on their hands behind this, mainly Democrats. But when they got in that court, they walked out with justice. They walked out with justice, and they're getting money.
SPEAKER 05 :
If we want to help... The black culture, I don't think it's money. I know how to do it. If you want to help the black culture, then set up programs where we can help these men be the lions they're supposed to be, not being baby daddies to five different women. Have a man take back the fact that I got that lady pregnant, and I'm not going to let her tell me it's her body, her choice. I'm going to tell her, I planted that seed in you. You're going to have my, I'm going to implore that you have my baby. I'm going to take care of you for nine months. And then if you don't want the baby after nine months, as a man, a son of God, I'm going to take the baby. And that way we can stop. See, these laws, all the laws that they have. It started with the first trimester, second trimester, third trimester. They keep improving the laws so that you can kill the baby. Here in Colorado, you can kill the baby on the day that it's born. Because they removed the man. Yeah, but you got to tell me they. They's white. We didn't have nothing to do with that. When you say they white, it was predominantly the Democrat Party. Now listen, I'm going to put it on these white guys. The NAACP, the black caucus. Okay. I like how you said that. The Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Barry Obama. Boo, boo, boo. None of them. Tell me one of them that has stood up and says, we have to stop this genocide. Because you're going to get turned off. They house Negroes. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because they're getting the money. They're getting the money.
SPEAKER 05 :
So the solution is if we want to do reparation, if we really want to help, let's say you give – everybody's going to get $50,000. You're going to walk up to some lady that's got five kids living in a two-bedroom apartment and give her $50,000. What is that going to do to help her?
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm going to tell you this. I learned a long time ago, don't count my money and I don't count yours. The bottom line, it's not about the money. It could be that 10 times as much. The bottom line is they need to be given to with the same energy that all the other money is given to, which is never talked about payback or anything. So it needs to be the same energy. If everything was the same energy, because I'm one of those dudes that say, okay, All that's done, not near one of y'all better ever, ever come back to me about anything because you're talking on closed ears. But until that day happens, I still feel some pipe away.
SPEAKER 05 :
I get it. I feel deeply about that. And I see that. And like, I'm not going to change your mind. You're not going to change mine. But I love the dialogue. I mean, because you can give me your money.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what I'm saying? Me and Luke can go out and do all kinds of stuff. Luke, you can take a girl on a trip. Because I'm going to spend it. I know how to make my own money, but that is not the case here.
SPEAKER 05 :
But if I give this mom $50,000 that's reparations... A year, she's going to be dead broke.
SPEAKER 04 :
So what? Don't worry about what she do.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, no. That's not helping her.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it's helping her. Believe me, it helped her. If it helped her for six months, it helped her. Give her her money.
SPEAKER 05 :
So what do she do? What if it's better to say, we're going to take that. No, because now. We're going to show her how to. See, now you're talking about slave, slave master again. Hold on, you just told me. You said a second ago, I would rather learn to fish than to somebody give me fish.
SPEAKER 04 :
But what I'm not going to do is go to Luke and beg him to show me how to fish. You know what I'm saying? It has to be something that's born inside of you that you want, that you're smart enough. I said, could Luke give me all these fish? I might take one day, two day. Hey, Luke, why don't you show me how to do that? But if you don't want to teach me how to know his skill, what to do, then I'm done with Luke.
SPEAKER 05 :
Bye. Bye. Luke's throwing his arms up in the air. So isn't it better, though, to say I'm going to help her improve her future? According to who?
SPEAKER 04 :
According to you and I, giving her money. I'd like to sit there with Ukraine and say, did we sit down with all these citizens and all this stuff?
SPEAKER 05 :
You're not going to get my argument for giving money to other countries. You're not going to. I am never, ever going to argue against that because what we're doing is wrong.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that's a whole different. And it's a whole bunch of reasons behind.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a whole different game that these folks on high are playing games with us like we're ants in the sand. So.
SPEAKER 04 :
All I'm saying, my dude, if I go out right now and I bust into Luke's house and I take all kind of stuff and everything out of his house and he finds out it's me, he's not going to say, don't worry about it, Reg. He's going to have the cops, courts, law, and everything. And part of it's going to be because he felt disrespected. He's going to feel less than. His girl's going to be looking at him like less of a man. You know, all those feelings he's going to have. So he's going to have to do what he's got to do to help him because he's just been traumatized, whether he knows it or not. And that's one time. We're talking about 400 years, and he's still alive. He wasn't murdered. So, but...
SPEAKER 05 :
How far back do we go? From the beginning. So go to Africa. Go to that continent. All of them. I don't care. So go to Africa and say, these 15 tribes stole most of the black folks and they sent them west and they sent them east. Those 15 tribes need to pay for all the Africans in this country, in this continent.
SPEAKER 04 :
With Israel right now. with Israel right now. I sit down, I have, I'm literally talking to somebody because of the entertainment industry. I have Kuwaiti friends. I have Iraqi friends. I have Saudi friends. I have Israeli friends. I've got a multi, I'm a people person. And I'll sit down and I listen to them all. And I'll be like, well, hey man, Why y'all fighting all the time and hate each other? Oh, it's a holy war. It's a holy war. I said, well, can you do like me? I believe in God. I believe there's a greater power. Now, am I going to sit here and argue if it's China's Buddha? Or is it God Christianity, what his name is? Am I going to sit down and argue what his name is? No. Indians worship cows. Right. And then China worships Buddha and tigers. Right. I'm looking at him like, and to me, it might look crazy to you, but I'm saying, why don't I just get along and disagree, disagree, and just say, we all agree there's a higher power. Then, and nobody, it should be no fights. But, that's me. But, I mean, people, the most wars have been started over holy wars, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
This is true.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that not, never one of them can prove it. I ain't seen nobody yet die. And come back and tell me what's up. It's redundant. I can't keep talking about it. I will say there's a million miracles that take place every day for us to be able to live.
SPEAKER 05 :
I will say this. If you come into my house or you come on my land and you kill my people and you kill my kids and my family, it's not going to work out well. It's not going to work out well.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's hypocritical.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's not going to work. What?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's hypocritical because that's what happened to them years ago.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, no, no, no. We're talking about now in the present. It is. Time is. It is different. Time heals all wounds. I said this earlier that slave owners weren't racist. No, they bought money. It was a business transaction.
SPEAKER 04 :
Business. That was it.
SPEAKER 05 :
In fact, I don't know if the term racism even existed. So we can't take today's moral compass and apply it to 400 years ago.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I know when I go, my friend from Arizona called me up and said, hey, let's go to the Indian plantation. And I'm like, what? And I see major casinos and all kind of cars and homes that you would not believe. I'm like, what do y'all do? Nothing. Smoke them a peace pipe. That's what we do.
SPEAKER 02 :
And a lot of them ain't even happy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look what happened to them. So they got their Indian land, and they are stuck, just like what the Democrats did to Negroes. They got them stuck. And somebody along the way says, hey, we can build a casino out here so everybody, every Native American gets their little bit of cut.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a social welfare program. If I had all the money right now, I'm telling you, in this order, it'd be seal the borders, number one. Then I would take the money and I would build and do whatever I need to have done for the homeless and our vets. Because anybody going over there catching bullets, I don't care for us to come over here and be how we are. It's crazy.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 04 :
And then the very next thing, and I could probably do all this at once. The very next thing, I'm going to have a big budget. I'm going to have somebody that I trust like Trump or somebody on there put this together and say, hey, this is what we're going to do with the apology. And we'll go and this is going to be it. And it's done and over. Then I'm going like Trump, dude. And I'm like, Ukraine, where my money? Where my money?
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why do you think the Democrats did what they did? Allowing, signing something before Trump gets in to let them send the missiles in. They want us to die. Yep. They keep pushing the envelope because they hate Trump. They want Trump to fail. They want him to fail.
SPEAKER 05 :
They want our country to fail.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. So that's evil.
SPEAKER 05 :
So on reparations. Hold on. Okay. Okay. Hear me out. Oh my gosh. This is a trip, man. This is very cool. Because this interaction never really happens with me. I live in northern Colorado. And so the interaction with brothers, as Barack would say, it's far and few. And so that we can sit down and disagree on a specific subject and still love one another.
SPEAKER 04 :
But I ain't got nothing to love and respect for you. Right, right. Nothing but love and respect. So what I learned, man, I tell you, come from my mom. My mom always taught me to treat everybody else better, their personal stuff, their house, how they are. Try to treat them better than you would do yourself. And she put that in me, like from a little two-year-old.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, reparation is never going to happen.
SPEAKER 04 :
It'll happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because this is why. The only time it comes up is when the Democrats are running for office. And that's a hustle. It's a horrible hustle that they play on our community to get folks to vote.
SPEAKER 04 :
Are we that dumb?
SPEAKER 05 :
See how disrespectful we are? Yeah, we are. But at some point, people like you and I can go into those communities and tell them the truth. We can speak like Malcolm X. You've been bamboozled. You've been run amok.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. And I know how to do it. I do it every day. And so I look at it like it needs to be a whole bunch of us. Right. Like us. That's right. And you want to talk about some scary stuff. Speak the truth. Not just black folk. Oh, no, no, no. Not just black folk. But I'm going to take care of my circle. Yes. I'm going to take care of my race. Yeah, yeah. You know, because we're the ones in dire, but everybody, man. It hurts. It breaks my heart with the elderly, with the homeless. Everybody suffers. Everybody suffers.
SPEAKER 05 :
I got a good friend, white dude. He told me he used to eat sugar sandwiches for breakfast or for dinner.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, then he had an entree because I was eating ketchup. I was eating barbecue and licking my fingers the next day. But, hey, man, dang, we out of time already, man. We're going to... Man, pleasure, big dog.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can have me back, man. I'd love to come and do this again.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, for sure. Let's do it next week. Hey, we're going to count it down. Three, two, one, and we out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. All right, y'all. It's that time. We out of here. But you've been listening to KLC 560 AM. I'm a United Reggie rapper. Yeah. It's fun. We will tackle the issues. We will unite the country every week, every Friday morning from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. It's about love, y'all. Have a wonderful morning and a great day.
Time does not shout; it just runs out—quicker than you think. God only gives you so much time. Don’t waste it. There’s no guarantee you’ll be alive tomorrow, so if you have not accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, do not t wait another moment. Do it now. “Now is the day of salvation” (Is 49:8). The Bible tells us about making the most of our time. “Be careful how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise making the most of your time” (Eph 5:15-17). The six key attributes of those who use time wisely are punctuality and patience, set priorities, have prudence and perspective, and do not procrastinate. A well-disciplined person has a routine. “Daily with one accord … Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus” (Phil 2:5). God chooses the time and the manner and the place of your departure, and He will be punctual about it.
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Time Doesn’t Shout - Part 1
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 603 aired on March 19, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes I'd like to ask you to stay with me. As usual, it will be a time of motivation, some
inspiration, education, everything done without any type of manipulation because we don't play
games. We’re not here to con you, we’re not here to trick you, we’re not here to recruit you. This
show is simply about giving you some accurate information, no human speculation but accurate
information from the canon of Scripture, the plan of God, the Word of God. Hopefully, if I give
you the right information, it will help you verify and identify God's plan for your life. If you
want to orient and adjust to the plan, you have the freedom, you have the privacy to do so. My
job as host of The FLOT Line is to give you the information. Remember, The FLOT Line is
about 10 unique problem-solving devices, 10 things found in the Word of God, invisible assets
that God left us. As believers in Jesus Christ when we operate in the spiritual life and we learn
these wonderful problem-solving devices, then we have the opportunity to grow in grace and to
represent Jesus Christ, even in our lifetime. Problem-solving devices like how do I deal with the
problem of sin and this is rebound, problem-solving device #1. If I confess my sin, God is
faithful and just to forgive me. What about the filling of the Holy Spirit? This is how I solve the
problem of my sin nature that is within me and is against God. It never has obeyed God and
never will the Bible says. Galations 5:16 says,
“If we walk in the Spirit we won’t fulfill the lust of
the flesh,”
so I have the option of allowing the Holy Spirit to control my life when I rebound.
When I confess my sin then I'm filled with the Spirit and then He is in control of my life. What
about the unseen difficulties and the tests that I face? I have the problem-solving device of the
faith-rest drill, standing on the promises of God, using them as a shield to protect me from
worries, a shield to protect me from anything that I may face in my life that I don't really have an
answer for, remembering that God said in 1 Corinthians 10:13,
“There’s no testing overtaken you
that is not common to man.”
Remember there are 10 unique problem-solving devices, I just
covered three of them. This is what the show is formulated on. When you learn these 10 unique
problem-solving devices then you stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become
the inside sources of stress. This is why we always say adversity is obviously inevitable and
stress is completely preventable. You don't have to have stress. You don't have to have this in
your life. Worry, fear, anger, bitterness, these are not things a Christian has to have. He has the
option of moving on, using the Spirit-filled life where he doesn't ever have to do these sorts of
things. We don't have a whole lot of time here on earth.
If you're getting a little up in the years
you might realize that time doesn't shout, it just runs out quicker than you think.
The kids
that I know between the age of 20 and 40 don't really think about time. They're too busy having
families, working, and achieving their goals. One day they look up and it's their 40th birthday or
even their 45th birthday and they go, “My goodness, where did all the time go?” I remember my
oldest daughter when she was 18 and went off to college, I stood in the driveway and realized,
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I'm 18 years older. Where did it go? Time doesn't shout, it just runs out quicker than you think.
We have to have time to function in the devil’s world don’t we? We live in different time zones.
If I call my oldest daughter in New York, she's ahead of me. If I call my other daughter in
California, she's behind me. It can be confusing to say the least. The military guys go by 0100 to
2400. You ask a military guy what time it is and he’ll say 1600 hours. You’re thinking “What
time is that?” This measure of accuracy that we have to be punctual comes from the Royal
Observatory in Greenwich, London called Greenwich Mean Time. I bring all of this up to
express something that I think will be interesting to you. That is that during our time on this sin
infested planet, it is critical that as humans we adhere to certain principles, that we have certain
traits in our life related to the time. Obviously, if we hope to have a happy time while we travel
through, well then we have to start with the first and most important thing. The Bible uses a
couple of words for time and this is one,
kairos.
Here in 2 Corinthians 6:2,
“Now is the accepted
time. Behold, now is the day of salvation.”
The first thing you have to orient and adjust to is
you must believe in Jesus Christ as your Savior, not tomorrow, not yesterday, not a month
from now, today. The reason is you have no guarantee, you have no written contract that
says you will be here tomorrow.
At least I don’t think you do. If you have a written contract
from God that says you will be here next week, I salute you but I haven't seen one of those yet.
“Now is the day of salvation."
A quote out of Isaiah 49:8 where it says in the Old Testament,
“In
a favorable time I have answered you and in a day of salvation, I've helped you,”
so today is the
day for you. If you've never trusted in Jesus Christ and never believed in Him, why would you
put it off? It is the right time. In Genesis 6:3 this is from God, He said,
“My Spirit will not
always strive with man, for that he is also flesh and yet his days shall be 120 years.”
I haven't
seen anybody 120 years old but I know from Deuteronomy 34:7 that Moses was 120 years old
when he died.
“His eyes were not dim
[he didn't need glasses]
and his natural vigor was not
diminished.”
I don't know what this means other than he didn't need any help from any doctor
for anything. He was a thoroughly functioning, full man.
You have to remember this, God only
gives you so much time.
We will talk about this. You see, we can waste time. It is very critical
that we understand these things about time so that we know what we are like, these traits that are
necessary as we move through planet Earth. I don’t know how much longer you're going to be
here. I don't how much longer I’m going to be here, but I can tell you at least six different things
that are critical for you and me to have.
We must have punctuality. We must have patience.
We must have priority in our life. We must have prudence. We must have perspective. And
we cannot ever afford to get into procrastination.
I told you that the Bible uses two different
words for time. As we go through these six things you'll see them, but let me just tell you what
they are to start with. The first Greek word for time is the noun
chronos
. It refers to a measure of
time like the clock time. It's the quantitative time, what time is it, 7:02, 6:05, you're talking about
a specific time. Then there's another word,
kairos,
and this is a noun also. It is translated time and
it refers to a moment of time measured by the quality. It's qualitative time, like the day of
salvation. If it was at 10:06 AM, then you would have
chronos.
To the self-centered person it's
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really hard to get over yourself and to the procrastinating believer, it's time to get on with the
program. If you’re going to make the best use of your time on earth, beginning with believing in
Jesus Christ as your Savior, there are things that you must remember, things that you have to
adhere to. This is why precise time or
chronos
is critical. It’s critical for all of us because without
chronos,
without precise time, no one can be punctual.
Punctuality is one of the traits that
every believer must have.
It's critical in the mature believer's life. You can read about it in Acts
2:46-47 where it says,
“So continuing daily with one accord in the temple and breaking bread
from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, praising God,
having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily.”
They continued daily,
they had a routine. None of us can function in life without a routine.
This is one of the signs of a
well-disciplined person, he has a routine and is always punctual.
“Daily with one accord,”
in
other words with one mind. What mind should I have? I should have what Philippians 2:5 says,
“Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus.”
This is called divine viewpoint.
“Daily
with one accord,”
studying in the temple. They studied the Scripture available to them,
especially concerning the prophecies of the Messiah. And “They broke bread in the houses.” In
other words they took their meals together. Everything had to be punctual. It wasn't the old term,
willy-nilly. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard that before. It doesn't mean they just showed up
when they wanted to. They had a specific time. Remember, Christians were being persecuted in
these times. They studied the Bible, the Old Testament Scripture at a specific time. They ate
together at a specific time. It says “They had gladness and joy, praising God [their right
priorities] and they had favor with the people and the Lord added day by day.” I don't know
about you but maybe in your church they meet at a specific time. Maybe you meet at a certain
time for Sunday school, a certain time for worship, maybe a certain time for whatever. For years
my church has met for Bible study and worship at a precisely correct time and I scheduled my
life around this time and I imagine you do to. I believe that one indication of maturity in a
person's life is punctuality. This is a trait that all mature people have, punctuality. I’d like to give
you some principles on the virtue of punctuality.
First of all, punctuality secures confidence
and appreciation from others with whom you associate.
If they can trust you, they will
appreciate you. Paul the apostle did much evangelizing to the Jewish synagogues such as in Acts
13. These synagogues were started under the Babylonian captivity when they had no temple.
They would meet much like going to church for us today. They would assemble on the seventh
day in the synagogue when there was no temple to read the Law, go over the Law, study the Law.
They had to be very punctual and Paul knew what time to be there and what time to shut up. This
is one of the things that I always ask whenever I'm speaking anywhere. If I'm speaking to a group
of students or I’m speaking in a school or at church, my first question is, “What time should I
shut up?” There is nothing worse than a long-winded preacher that doesn't shut up when he’s
suppose to. He goes on and on and on. We've all been there. We've all wondered what planet that
dude is living on. Punctuality is appreciated. If you're saying, “That's right, I’ve got to get to
Luby’s for lunch,” this is not why we’re talking about it. We’re talking about the discipline of
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punctuality. If you're worried about where you’re going for lunch and you’re going to have to
wait in line a little bit longer, then you're worrying about the wrong thing. Punctuality is critical
in the military, absolutely critical. This is why they have their own time standard 0600, 1800,
whatever it is. There is a unit that I'm well aware of called the 170th Special Operations Aviation
Regiment stationed at Fort Campbell, Kentucky. This group of select military aviators can
deliver any special operations unit such as Navy SEALs, Army Rangers, Marine Recons, they
can take them to any chosen site in their sphere of operation. In other words, if a Navy SEAL
says, “I need to go to this longitude, this latitude, and we need to be there at 12:06 AM,” well,
the SOAR, what they call the Night Stalkers, can get them there. They'll plan it out and they'll
get them there within ±30 seconds, very punctual, because in the military, lives depend on
everybody in the unit being punctual. It is critical for virtue in the military life as well as in
civilian life. Punctuality instills a system of respect and concern for other people and none of us
could function in civilian life without being punctual. I’ll tell you something else, another point.
Any pastor worth his salt will always be punctual. He'll show up on time and he'll stop on time. I
have to be punctual. When I'm recording these radio shows I'm looking directly at the clock and I
know what time I have to stop talking. If I go too long, then they won't be able to air the show
because I went over my time limit. Punctual people will always make the most of the allotted
time God allows them to have. The Bible tells us this about making the most of our time. Listen
to Ephesians 5:15-17,
“Therefore, be careful how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise,
making the most of your time.”
What was my point there? Punctual people make the most of
their allotted time,
“Because the days are evil. So then, don't be foolish, but understand what the
will of the Lord is.”
Now let me look at a few of these words. The first one,
“Therefore, be
careful how you walk,”
the first word walk. This is the Greek word
peripateo.
I know, you’re
saying “Why are you telling me this?” Because it doesn't mean to walk.
Be careful how you
walk means to regulate your life by taking advantage of opportunities.
It's about how you
live your life. It’s your lifestyle. “Therefore, be careful how you live your life,” is what it’s
saying. Be careful of the daily decisions that you make.
The first and foremost daily decision
that every believer must make is to take in the Word of God on a daily basis.
We must feed
on God's Word every day. Without this, you're not going to grow very much. Then,
“Therefore,
be careful how you live your life, not as an unwise man lives his life but as wise, making the most
of your time.”
Making the most of your time
means to buy up or to rescue from loss, to make a
wise use of your time. Take advantage of your time. What does this mean?
I have to realize who
the enemy is and what his tactics are.
How do I learn these things? I learn them in Bible class.
My pastor is going to teach it to me. He’s going to teach me Ephesians 6:11,
“Put on the armor
of God,”
so I
“can stand against the strategy of the devil.”
If he hasn’t taught you this, how do
you know what to do? You see, when I make the most of my time I have the ability to see
through the distractions that Satan may send my way and I can recover from the defeats that I fall
into when I allow my flesh to control my life. I make the most of my time. I don't waste my time.
This is what you have to do. The verse says,
“Be careful how you live your life, not as unwise
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men live their life, making the most of your time because the days are evil. So don't be foolish,
understand what the will of the Lord is.”
Suneimi,
the Greek word, means to understand and to
comprehend by putting two and two together and to realize that it comes up to four. There are
certain things you have to understand. Now this is an innocuous word, understand. This doesn't
sound very spiritual does it when God says He wants you to understand what His will is. Listen
to Jeremiah 9:24,
“Let him who boasts, boast about this. That he understands Me and he knows
Me.”
This is what God is looking for. There are a lot of people that know Him. Yes, maybe
people in your church that know Him but there are not a lot of people that understand the God
they know.
This is what can set you apart from other believers, you understand the God
that you know.
Proverbs 1:2 says,
“To know wisdom and instruction and to discern the sayings
of understanding.”
Verse 5,
“A wise man will hear and increase in learning and a man of
understanding will acquire wise counsel.”
If there is anything God wants you to do, it’s to
understand His plan. It is not vague. It's not hard. It's not impossible. It’s very simple,
“To grow
in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ”
(2 Peter 3:16), until you
replicate Him. Satan has a masterful plan and he actually uses organized religion to mislead
people into thinking that they are serving God. He deludes the grace plan of God, especially in
salvation and confuses the protocol plan of God in the Christian's life. Where did I get this? 2
Corinthians 2:11, Paul warns us,
“Do not let Satan take advantage of you by not understanding
[there it is, here’s your word again]
how he manipulates people and how he misleads the
gullible.”
Believers in Jesus Christ must not only understand God's plan, we have to
understand Satanic strategy as well.
Satanic strategy is designed to confuse the believer and
the unbeliever. 2 Corinthians 4:3-4,
“If my gospel is veiled, it's veiled to those who are perishing,
in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so
that they might not see
the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.”
This is one thing Satan’s
going to seek to do to obscure the gospel. We are to, as Ephesians 5:17 says,
“Understand the
will of the Lord.”
The primary will of God can be summed up, it’s very simple. In Mark
12:30-31 someone asked Him, “What is the number one mandate Jesus?” Jesus Christ said,
“Love God with all of your heart, with all of your soul, with all of your mind, and with all of
your strength. And to love your neighbor as yourself.”
This is the primary will of God for you:
personal love for God and impersonal love for others.
Both of these are tremendous problem-
solving devices. Then there's a secondary consideration for us to look at in Micah 6:8, an Old
Testament passage,
“He has told you, old man, what is good and what does the Lord require of
you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?”
Mark 12:30-31 is
our motivational and functional virtue in life while Micah 6:8 is our practical application
from the renovated thinking we get when we learn the mind of Christ.
If you can't be
punctual to show up at church on time, to show up at Bible class on time, if you can't be faithful
to come in the first place, then you're never going to learn these concepts because to be quite
honest with you, some people would rather learn a lie than learn the truth because it's more
appealing to them. 2 Timothy 4:3-4,
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound
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doctrine, but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in
accordance with their own desires and they will turn away their ears from truth and turn aside
into myths,”
things they would rather hear taught than what's taught. This is true in America
today.
Punctuality is a critical trait in the life of a mature believer. It demonstrates his
dedication, enthusiasm and consistency.
When you show up on time it demonstrates to others
that you enjoy what you do and you look forward to the day’s challenge in front of you.
Punctuality produces freedom from irritation, freedom from anxiety, and this is a trust area
because people just don't trust anyone or appreciate anyone who's habitually late and habitually
inconveniences other people. I can assure you as I wrap up this segment of the study, God is
punctual. In Job 5:26-27,
“You shall come to your grave at a full age, as a sheaf of grain ripens
in its season. Behold this, we’ve searched it out and it's true. Hear it and know it for yourself.”
God chooses the time and the manner and the place of your departure and He will be
punctual about it.
Think about these things. Ponder on these things. Contact me if I can help
you. I hope you'll come back and join me next week, same time, same channel, and we will press
on with this study of these virtues and traits in the mature believer's life. Until then, this is your
host Rick Hughes saying thank you for being with me on The FLOT Line
Join us for an in-depth look at the heated debates surrounding federal work policies under Biden's administration. Delve into Scott Jennings' insights on the current telework trends shaking Washington, D.C. and analyze the implications for federal employees. Also, listen to the gripping discussion on clemency for marijuana charges and the evolving narrative around public safety, justice, and presidential power.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. I'm Eric Hansen. It's Friday, December 6th, 2024. This week, Joe lets Hunter off the hook, football fans find trouble on the field, and Trump wants the hostages out of Gaza or else. Let's begin with guest host Joey Hudson as he tries to make sense of President Biden going back on his word. What?
SPEAKER 05 :
Joe Biden kicked off the week by letting the world know that he would in fact be pardoning his son, Hunter Biden, after repeatedly saying for a couple of years now that he would never do so. Is this just another example of lying, Joe? Maybe Joe Biden has always intended to pardon his son, but in the last six months or so, He's made a point, as his White House staff has made a point, to say, under no circumstances would Joe Biden pardon Hunter Biden. So what happened? How did this come about? Or was that the plan all along? And Joe Biden, back when he was presidential candidate Joe Biden— Was he just saying that because of the optics of the idea of the president pardoning his own son? He was trying to gain your vote. But he even said it after he dropped out of the race. He has said it multiple times. In cut number one, days after Hunter's peers found him guilty— and of course we know he was about to be sentenced just in a few days, probably would have received some time in prison. He could have received up to 17 years for his offenses, and we're going to go into those in just a moment. But the point is that as recent as just a few weeks ago, Joe Biden, in cut number one, said that he was not going to do anything. He was not going to interfere in the judicial system.
SPEAKER 02 :
With regard to the question regarding the family, I'm extremely proud of my son, Hunter. He has overcome an addiction. He's one of the brightest, most decent men I know. And I am satisfied that I'm not going to do anything. I said I abide by the jury decision. I will do that, and I will not pardon him.
SPEAKER 05 :
I will abide by the jury decision, and I will not pardon him. So what changed from then, and again, that's just been recently, to last night when he issued this statement? He said, Today I signed a pardon for my son Hunter. From the day I took office, I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department's decision-making, and I kept my word even as I've watched my son being selectively and unfairly prosecuted. The president went on to claim that his son was treated differently by prosecutors, saying that without aggravating factors like use in a crime, multiple purchases, or buying a weapon as a straw purchaser, people are almost never brought to trial on felony charges solely for how they filled out a gun form, he said. In the statement, Biden wrote, those who were late paying their taxes because of serious addictions but paid them back subsequently with interest and penalties are typically given non-criminal resolutions. It is clear that Hunter was treated differently. Oh, so I guess he's saying that his Department of Justice was holding a different accountability to Hunter Biden. that it just wasn't fair. He's being persecuted because of who his dad was. Doesn't matter that he broke the law. Biden also referenced his son's addiction, blamed it on raw politics, saying there's been an effort to break Hunter, who has been five and a half years sober. Even in the face of unrelenting attacks and selective prosecution, In trying to break Hunter, they're trying to break me, he said, and there's no reason to believe it will stop here. Enough is enough, Joe Biden wrote. I hope Americans will understand why a father and a president come to this decision. Do you understand how a father and a president makes this decision after repeatedly telling the American people, the people who he serves, that he would not do this?
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you understand? The ceasefire in Israel lasted barely a week before both sides exchanged rocket fire. But never fear, the Trump administration has made its intentions clear before even taking office. Think about this for a minute.
SPEAKER 05 :
The ceasefire barely lasted a week with these terrorists. This is why it's just so hard to trust these people. In a statement, the Israeli Defense Forces said fighter jets struck Hezbollah operatives and dozens of rocket launchers and facilities belonging to the terror group just across the Lebanese border. Hezbollah claimed earlier yesterday... that it launched the mortars in response to Israel's repeated violations of the ceasefire deal that took effect last week, and said that it should serve as an initial warning over IDF strikes on Lebanon during the truce and the continued violation of Lebanese airspace by hostile Israeli aircraft. The International Monitor reported Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israel would respond strongly after Hezbollah launched rockets at a watchtower, the first time the group has attacked Israel since the ceasefire just last week. Meanwhile... There's soon to be a new sheriff in town, and he issued an ultimatum to the Hamas terrorists on the southern side of Israel. In a statement posted on Truth Social, President-elect Donald Trump did not mince words. He made it very clear that if the hostages taken by Hamas on October the 7th of 2023 are not released by the time he is sworn in on January the 20th, He said, quote, all hell to pay. This wasn't just rhetoric. Donald Trump's comments signal a pretty stark contrast and a warning to Hamas and other actors in that region that he will do something, that he will take action. As you know, on October 7, 2023, Hamas launched a devastating attack on Israel, killing at least 1,200 or so people, kidnapped 250 or so, and many of those remain in captivity in just horrid, unbelievable circumstances. Among the hostages, we believe there's about seven Americans The attack has plunged the region into some of its worst crisis in a number of decades, and there doesn't appear to be any end in sight. Trump's statement comes amid frustration that there hasn't been any progress in to secure the release of the hostages. He wrote, Everybody is talking about the hostages who are being held so violently, inhumanely, and against the will of the entire world, but it's all talk and no action. He added, if the hostages are not released prior to January 20th, 2025, there will be all hell to pay in the Middle East and for those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against humanity. What do you think about that? Is this... And I know... President Trump is wanting to show Hamas his strength and wanting to inform them that he's not going to sit back like Joe Biden has. But is it dangerous as well to make such a bold statement? knowing that you've got to back it up? Because if the hostages are not released by January 20th, what is our response? What are we willing to do? Are we going to send troops over there? Are we going to send our aircraft over there? Are we going to select some targets? What's the military strategy here? What are we willing to do? What are we willing to put our men and women in uniform at risk to settle this, to get those hostages released.
SPEAKER 03 :
The stakes are pretty high. We were delighted to welcome CNN senior political analyst Scott Jennings to guest host for Mike on the show this week. Scott broke some news when he interviewed Congressman James Comer.
SPEAKER 06 :
You are raising some concerns, and I think a lot of people are going to have concerns about it. It sounds like some of the federal government workers unions are cutting deals with the Biden administration on the way out the door here to let all these federal bureaucrats work from home for years and years and years. I think people would be shocked if they went to Washington, D.C. and went into some of these office buildings. People don't come to work. And now they're cutting deals that will let them. What is going on with this and what are we going to do about this? People need to go to work, don't they?
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. The American people may have thought that the Joe Biden's pardon to Hunter was the last middle finger from Joe Biden to the American people. But no, the last middle finger happened yesterday when Joe Biden issued an executive order granting more federal employees the right to work from home. And you've already got a majority of the federal workers in Washington, D.C. They don't even come to work. Some of these big buildings in Washington, D.C. are only 8% occupied. If you try to call someone on the phone and get someone on the phone in a D.C. office, it'll be a miracle if that actually happened. No one is coming to work under Joe Biden. So the American taxpayers that work hard every day, many of whom have two jobs, paying taxes to the federal government, the last thing they want to see are more fat cat, big government employees sitting at home in their pajamas all day, sleeping until noon, not providing any service to the American people. And that's what Joe Biden just did. He is doing everything he can to burn it down on the way out. And I think that one of the goals of Doge is to trim The federal workforce. The first thing we need to do is get the employees back to work and then we can figure out who's actually working and who needs to be let go. So, you know, it's a disaster with the federal workforce right now in Washington, D.C. They're not coming to work. Even the mayor, Muriel Bowser, supports my efforts to bring the federal workforce back to work because all these retail outlets and restaurants have shut down in Washington, D.C. because there are no federal employees going to work.
SPEAKER 06 :
Before we let you go, Congressman, I assume that your engagement with the Doge effort and looking into this federal workers not coming to work, this is going to be at the top of your list when Congress comes back in January. Can you give me a little snapshot? What else is on Jamie Comer's mind when the Republicans come back and you chair the House Oversight Committee? What else can we expect out of you and the Republican majority on the oversight front?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I'm meeting with Elon and Vivek tomorrow, but I can tell you we're going to be working very closely with their efforts to eliminate waste, fraud, abuse in the federal government. That's what our committee is supposed to do. We didn't have a majority of senators willing to go along with many of the good government bills we passed out of the House, and we sure as hell didn't have a White House that wanted to have good government. Now we do. Now the pieces are in place. I love the two point people on this Doge thing. I think we're going to look at unnecessary government programs, wasteful grants. We're going to look at unneeded federal bureaucrats and just going to start taking the ax out and trying to chop waste, fraud and abuse at every corner of the federal budget. There's no shortage of opportunities to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. And that's what my number one priority is going to be in this next Congress.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's Congressman Jamie Comer, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, the oracle of American politics. He was on to the Bidens before anybody. He has been totally vindicated. And a little news. You're meeting with Elon and Vivek.
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SPEAKER 03 :
This is the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. I'm Eric Hansen. Our guest host Scott Jennings gave us an inside glimpse of the Trump campaign thanks to a visit from campaign manager Chris Lasavita.
SPEAKER 06 :
So much unprecedented stuff, the legal stuff you had to fight through. Then you had the assassination attempt. I mean, we were a quarter of an inch from a total cataclysm in Butler, PA. What was that day like? I mean, just a surreal experience, I'm sure, for you watching your candidate that you're working for nearly get assassinated at a rally.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it you know, I was in I was actually in Milwaukee because the the other job that I had still have for a couple more weeks anyway was chief of staff of the RNC. And I was in Milwaukee for, you know, the convention. And I had this TV on in my in my room. And, uh, my daughter was down the hall. She was staffing me, um, during the convention. And, uh, um, she came flying into my room and said, you know, they just shot the president. And, you know, I was, I had the TV on, I had the rally on and, and, and I was like paying attention. And I, then I, you know, it was, I picked up the phone and called Suze, uh, called Susie who was there and she was in the tent, the white tent behind the stage off stage. Um, Um, and she was saying, we don't know how bad it is, but I'll call you when we get to the hospital. And then I was telling her like, well, he just walked off stage punching, you know, shaking his fist, yelling, fight, fight, fight. So I think he's going to be okay. But I mean, that's how literally I knew, um, You know that that that he was fine because of the service, you know, and then Nick, who's one of the agents, you could see him grabbing the boss by the collar and looking at him. I mean, it was just God watching that just makes my stomach. Sick. An amazing day.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nonetheless, a terrible moment. But one of the most iconic photos probably ever taken in a presidential campaign and set the stage, I think, set sort of the narrative of Donald Trump, the comeback. Not a kid, you know, but I mean, the comeback narrative of Trump coming back, you know, from the political attacks, coming back from a literal assassination attempt. And to overcome it all, I just – we can talk – I don't think we can ever talk about it enough. You can't. One other issue that I think needs more attention is how you and Susie and the RNC and the campaign totally revolutionized Republican ground game politics. You and I have been in a lot of campaigns together over the years and lived through these presidential campaigns, and it was about volume. How many people can you call? How many doors can you knock? But it was – and it was about quantity. Quantity. not quality. And a lot of our listeners, I'm sure, volunteered on some of these campaigns. You totally threw out the old playbook and revolutionized this to great success. How did you do it? What was the theory?
SPEAKER 04 :
Two things. One, real quick. First of all, I did want to say, and I couldn't let this slip by without saying that I'm one of your biggest fanboys. Just watching you every night on CNN is great entertainment. I just... It's amazing stuff. But on the on the ground game, you know, we had a phenomenal operation, you know, led by James Blair in the political in the political department. And then, you know, Tim Saylor, who did didn't even know Tim. He's a data guy with and of course, Tony, our pollster. But the focus was was qualitative right over quantitative. And in the past, you know, it was we judged. the success of ground games by the amount of, of attempts that somebody made attempts at phone calls, attempts at, you know, door knocks, you know, it wasn't about having a conversation. It wasn't about a conversion, our focus, which we built this, um, You know, we basically tested this out in a much smaller laboratory, if you will. And that laboratory was the Iowa caucuses. And and and the so so the the the focus, obviously, much more on finding a group of people that which we, by the way, we define through our data, you know, low propensity voters and. We reformed and totally changed how they do data at the RNC. Right. And the ground games in all the battleground states were built on a very simple process, which we had two target audiences. We had a target audience of what we call persuadable voters. Those are the people that we knew that would decide the election. And then there was this group of low propensity voters that supported the president, but we had to make sure they showed up. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
With this week's pardon of Hunter Biden, now Democrats are pressing the president to extend clemency to others, including those incarcerated on marijuana charges.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, hi, Joey. Thanks for taking my call. Regarding the letting people out for marijuana, I'm against that, but I have a question that Do you think they would be doing this right now if Harris had won?
SPEAKER 05 :
Good question. I don't know the answer to that. I think they probably are. The progressives in the party are pushing Biden because they know he has nothing to lose. He's on his way out. He's done. Now, would it have been different if Kamala Harris had won? I'm not so sure she wouldn't have encouraged it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, the thing that really bothers me about the whole thing is it's like, you know, all of a sudden they're going to do this and they're just jerking the American public around. You know, they're doing this to spite Trump and despite the fact that they lost. And so they're going to just take this opportunity to do whatever they want and just jerking us around to try to do this real quick without thinking it through. And it's just another example of them just jerking us around. I just hate it. Well...
SPEAKER 05 :
People like Ilhan Omar, they want people to think that some of these thousands of people that she cited are sitting in prison because they were smoking a marijuana cigarette. Again, my law enforcement contacts tell me that there's not a lot of people in prison just because of marijuana. They committed other crimes, and that's why they're in prison. They happened to be smoking marijuana when they committed those crimes. Let's go back to Dallas where we have Paul. Welcome, Paul. You're on the Mike Gallagher Show. Hey, how you doing today? I'm wonderful, Paul. Hope you are.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, I just want to say something. I have seen no problem with letting somebody out because of a... minor marijuana charge you know if they were just like at a concert concert smoking a joint and a cop walked up on them and took them oh you're going to jail and they didn't have but maybe two or three joints on them you know that's kind of crazy to give prison time waste taxpayer money on some small stuff like that when they need to be hunting down big stuff yeah are you in are you in favor of legalizing marijuana To a certain degree, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So what degree?
SPEAKER 10 :
As long as it's private, use it in the privacy of your home. Okay. But here's the thing I don't understand. Let's compare it with alcohol. How many lives and how many people have been destroyed through alcohol?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. You got a point there, Paul.
SPEAKER 10 :
You can drink all you want. You can buy all you want. You can do whatever you want. You can be in public drug. I mean, you get caught. Yeah, but look at all the people killed from alcohol abuse.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Paul, appreciate your phone call. Paul, I mean, an example is just this week in my home state of South Carolina, a young lady, 27 years old, she was drunk. She had been at multiple bars and hit a couple who were literally on a golf cart driving back from the beach on their wedding day. She hit them, killed the bride instantly. She was sentenced. She pled guilty this week, sentenced to 25 years. In that case, it was all because of alcohol. So you make a good point. I mean, you know, alcohol can be as bad as marijuana if you abuse it. Anything. and when you abuse it, can be bad.
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And finally, one of the great American debates. If your football team wins a big game, should you be allowed to storm the field? Guest host Joey Hudson says yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Here in my home state of South Carolina, my Carolina Gamecocks played the Clemson Tigers. For once, we were successful. That doesn't happen often. The Clemson Tigers are a pretty tough team. The Gamecocks have had a good season, and we beat Clemson on Saturday. There's a tradition in Death Valley that it's okay for fans to run out on the field after the game. This past week, Coach Dabo Sweeney said that he was lucky to get out alive during the post-game celebration. Thousands of Clemson and South Carolina fans were on the field. Players from both teams nearly got into an altercation, reportedly because some Gamecock players attempted to plant a Gamecock flag in the middle of the Tiger Paw on Frank Howard Field. Sweeney said in his Sunday call, it was dangerous, it was scary. He said, we've got to make sure that does not happen anymore, and we can't be hypocrites either. He said that he was going to be talking with Gamecock coach Shane Beamer more on this. Sweeney said, obviously I've not been a part of much of that, but that was something that happened a couple years ago. And he's talking about in the Clemson, when the Gamecocks got into an issue in, I think this was in 2020 maybe. He said, and this was when Clemson beat Carolina in Columbia, and Clemson tried to do the same thing. Sweeney said, I'm disappointed about that. And then again, this year seems to be a similar thing. He said, listen, we have to do something about this. So what is that? Some other teams around the country, the ACC, find North Carolina and rival North Carolina State on Monday $25,000 because they, too, they got into a fight. because they were trying to plant a team flag in the middle of the field. Same thing in the Big Ten Conference, Ohio State and Michigan. They were fined $100,000 each for the same thing. What's the appropriate response here? And for some of you who are texting me and calling me, should fans just not be allowed on the field at all? Some of my texter says, Joey, college football should do what hockey, lacrosse, and rugby are doing. They line up after the game and they shake hands, win or lose. Fans running amok on the field is never a good idea. Todd in Atlanta. Thank you, Todd.
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And that wraps up the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast for Friday, December 6th, 2024. Be sure to subscribe to all of the podcasts and never miss a second of the shows. I'm Eric Hansen. We'll see you back here next week on the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast.
In this episode of *Rush to Reason*, John Rush breaks down the latest political moves shaping the nation. From Trump's plans to eliminate the federal EV tax credit to the confirmation battles surrounding his cabinet picks, we analyze what these changes mean for the country. Featuring a deep dive into the Trump campaign’s groundbreaking voter strategy, as shared by Charlie Kirk, and a candid discussion on the challenges of Colorado’s political landscape, John unpacks the strategies that could redefine American politics. Plus, listener insights, sharp humor, and the realities of grassroots campaigning. Don't miss this episode, packed with insights and surprises!
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, hour number two. Appreciate y'all joining us today. And again, thank you so much. And Oh, what can I say? Lots going on. Lots of cabinet picks may get into a few more of those, although a lot of those will still have to be confirmed. You know, one thing, Charlie, maybe you can help me with this. I was looking today. I'm assuming HHS has to be a confirmed position as well. Or is that just an appointment? Charlie says highly confirmed for high position, so most likely would be. At any rate, I didn't get a chance to look all that stuff up. If some of you know these answers, I mean, is every single cabinet position confirmed? For example, chief of staff is not confirmed. That's just his pick as to who's going to run chief of staff, White House secretary, press secretary. That's not a confirmation position. That's just a announcement on his part. He can pick whoever he wants to and can change it midstream if he likes. So I'm not – I'm sorry to say. Or maybe not sorry to say, because I've got better things to do. I'm not really up on who has to be confirmed and who doesn't. I know some of the... Attorney General, Matt Gaetz. That one would have to be confirmed, of course. Those I understand. But not... I don't think all of them have to be. Now... In other news, and I've got several things to talk about, and probably won't get to everything that I've got to cover in this hour. No guests this hour. I actually had a guest that was supposed to be with us during this hour, and make sure that I get his name correct. Tevi Troy, you heard me promo him even. He had something come up today, will not be able to join me until 4 o'clock Monday. So for those of you that maybe were hoping to hear him today and heard the promo, I will be talking to him on Monday. We're going to talk about AI, Elon Musk, some things along those lines. That will be Monday instead of today. He had something come up and could not join us. Now, in breaking news today, Donald Trump, President Trump, said that he plans to get rid of the 7,500 federal electric vehicle credit. In other words, the EV tax credit, the federal one, he plans to eliminate. Now, I believe that was in the infrastructure bill. The inflation bill is what I call it. So I'm not sure exactly what he'll do along those lines. I don't know exactly what he has to go through step by step to make that happen. But let me just tell you this. If that, in fact, happens, this is my prediction, and I don't think I'm wrong in this, EVs will be dead. Pardon the pun. But they will be. Even with Musk, yes, they will be. Now, that doesn't mean that all EVs will be dead. I just think it means that some will only have state credits. They will not have the 7,500 federal credit. I'm here to tell you that there are certain EVs, a lot of them, That only get looked at and or bought because of that credit. Because in a lot of cases, Colorado, for example, it's $7,500 and $5,000. That's the total. And right now in Colorado, you can walk into the dealership and as long as you make under a certain amount on last year's taxes, you can walk in and they take that right off the top of the car. You don't even have to apply for that. It's literally just taken off the top. Lump sum. Boom. Done. Done. So those are things that will most likely change under a Trump administration, and if that in fact does, yes, it will change how many people buy EVs. EVs are already struggling as is. This will be the nail in the coffin, if you ask me, for a lot of EVs. Not necessarily Tesla, but a lot of others that in fact will be a nail in the coffin. John and Cheyenne, go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if I remember right from my school days, Any position that is in the chain of succession has to be confirmed. So, like, president and vice president are elected, and then it's speaker of the House, Senate majority leader, and then it would be secretary of state, secretary of defense, you know, and on and on. Most of the cabinet positions that start with the, have the title of secretary, with the exception of, of course, attorney general, have to be confirmed. And I believe most of their deputies also have to be confirmed.
SPEAKER 14 :
Gotcha. Because they would automatically take over if something were to happen to them, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right. So like Secretary of the Army, Secretary of the Navy, Secretary of the Air Force, positions like that have to be confirmed by the Senate. Got it. So it's a whole big list. That's why it's so important that he has these appointments So when he's sworn in and the Senate's in session, he could send them all right to them so they could start doing the hearings for confirmation. That's what makes so long is they're going to have a confirmation hearing on all of these secretaries. And they could milk that in the Senate if, you know, they want to. The people that are in charge of, like, say, Senate judiciary will do the attorney general. you know, Senate, uh, um, military, is it military? I can't remember. Foreign affairs, probably military and foreign affairs. I'm guessing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Armed services. There you go. There you go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. They would do the secretary of defense in the army, Navy, you know, uh, foreign affairs would do the secretary of state and the UN ambassador, which is, even though that's an ambassador, it's a, I think it's a, a, uh,
SPEAKER 14 :
confirmed position.
SPEAKER 04 :
I believe you're correct on that one.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I believe so too. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. So it's just a huge amount of people that have to be confirmed for him to even hit the ground running. HHS is a prime example that does have to be secretary education, you know, all the, all the ones it's, it's pretty much if it's a cabinet position, it has to be confirmed by the Senate, which, you know, that's what makes it so hard. because if it gets to the floor of the Senate and they want to filibuster it, say a Democrat really doesn't want Matt Gaetz, they can fight that tooth and nail as long as they can.
SPEAKER 14 :
I could see that. And by the way, that's one I could see happening. A lot of these, I think, are pretty cut and dried, and I think you'll get some bipartisan support. But Matt, Matt's pretty polarizing. I don't necessarily see that one being a slam dunk.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. My favorite conspiracy theory is that Matt's there because Trump wanted to get rid of him, and this is the easiest way.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know what? It's funny you said that, because I had the same conversation yesterday with a couple of different people, and I said exactly the same thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I've read it a lot of places where he resigned from Congress, so now if he doesn't get confirmed, he's out of there. what is he going to do maybe in two years he runs for his old seat to get back because he got re-elected by a pretty good margin a couple weeks ago he didn't win his primary by a by a huge margin though john no no but he won his his election because it's well my point on that is if you get somebody in that will now replace him and that guy runs or gal runs for a couple of years and does well and he tries to primary that guy out yeah that probably ain't gonna happen Yeah, so what does he do then?
SPEAKER 14 :
Move and go somewhere else and try to run.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Oh, like... Like Liz Cheney? You could.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know that Matt would have much other choice. And by the way, I can't disagree with you. Now, I understand that, at least on the surface, I think Trump is doing everything he can to placate Gates because Gates is a full-time Trump supporter. And I'm not saying there's any bad blood between those two, but I think Donald Trump is smart enough to also know that Matt is very polarizing in government himself, not Again, if you're going to put him anywhere, put him in at the AG. But at the end of the day, he's very polarizing and frankly, probably didn't help Trump out a ton when it came to some of the things that he did inside of Congress. And I mean that for all of you that are out there that think Gates is, you know, everything's in sliced bread. Trust me, the guy is not. I think Trump knows that, John, and I can't disagree with what you're saying. I think Trump knows he won't get confirmed.
SPEAKER 04 :
If he does, then he just threw him to the wolves. And I don't know. We're not fans of him because of what he did to Kevin McCarthy.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm not fans of him because of what he just does, period. The guy's a loose cannon. He might be a really, really smart guy, but he has no strategy.
SPEAKER 04 :
But I don't know if Trump would throw somebody who's been that loyal to him under the bus.
SPEAKER 14 :
Maybe in a way, in a way, you're kind of throwing him under the bus by making him A.G. given his past experience, because, you know, he's going to struggle with that in confirmation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Am I right for him? That's going to be the toughest one.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, they're digging. They'll dig everything out. You know, the Democrats will dig everything out that they possibly can on the guy, including some of what he's been going through in the House already when it comes to the investigation that's there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Cornyn, who I'm not a fan of, came out and said, well, we're going to want to see everything from the House Ethics Committee for his confirmation. And frankly, I'm not sure that I can blame him for that. No, not at all, because worst thing you do is you want to see him confirmed and then something really bad come out and then he has to resign and you've got to start all over again.
SPEAKER 14 :
You don't want that. You'd rather have you'd rather just go to your second choice right off the bat.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Which, by the way, might ultimately be the art of the deal and might be what Trump wants anyways.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And who would be I don't I'm a little bit vague on who would be his second choice for attorney general.
SPEAKER 14 :
Andy threw out a name the other day and he's probably watching movies right now, so isn't listening to me and can't throw that out to me quickly. But he threw out something the other day and I can't remember who he told me. I'd have to go back and look.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know. It's just, you know who I, but she probably wouldn't take it, or I don't know, is if you go watch some of Harriet Hageman, and she's a real sharp lawyer, watch some of her questioning when she's in Congress, and she's vicious, and she would be, I think, a good attorney general. Andy said Comer. Oh, James Comer? Yeah. Yeah, he'd be good. That's what Andy said. He'd be good. So just one other question. Yes. What do you think of Radcliffe as CIA?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't think that's a bad choice.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I think that's a good choice. Yeah, I'm fine with that.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, really, John, so far, I really don't have a problem with any of them other than I'm not a Matt Gaetz fan. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, you know, I don't know. It's just Matt Gaetz just reminds me too much of a politician. Yep. Absolutely. You know, he's just kind of, I don't know. Let's see what comes out tomorrow with the House Ethics Committee. Because he might be hoping that because he resigned, they're not going to release that. But he's got enough enemies in the House that they might. That's right. Yeah. You're right. John, you have a great day.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, other news that came out yesterday, which I pretty well figured this would probably be the case, I think, just because of, again, stuff we talked about with Dr. Kelly, victory, conflict of interest, and so on. How does it look in all of that? Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk, who will be in charge of DOGE, DOG, DOG, whatever you want to call it, DOGE, Department of Government Efficiency, They both said, I believe this was sent out late last night, they both said they will not take pay, meaning they're not on government payroll. And I'm guessing there's a couple of reasons there. One, it kind of is a conflict of interest. You're in charge of this entity that's now going to get rid of government waste and make things efficient. So how can you take a salary at the same time? It's not that you couldn't because you're getting paid to do something, but I get where they're coming from. Number two, neither one of them need it. I mean, really, I mean, even if you paid Elon, I haven't done the math on this, Charlie, but even if you paid Elon, I don't think I'm exaggerating here. If you paid Elon 200 grand a year, which is about what those positions run inside government, if you paid him 200 grand a year. That'd be like you, Charlie, it's like you and I making 15 or 20 bucks, and I'm not exaggerating. It's comparison to what his whole net worth is, $200 billion. Making a couple hundred grand is like you and I making 20 bucks or so. It's that drastic, and I'm not exaggerating. So end of the day, not taking one. I believe there is a conflict of interest, and I believe it's smart for both of them not to do so. Number two. I don't think that either one of them could do this and be paid and not divest some of their holdings that they also have out there in regards to their businesses and so on, which, again, neither one of them want to do nor would I want them to do. Third thing about not taking payroll and the other thing that they said is they want to get all this done in two years. They don't want this to be a forever office. They want to get in there, get things done, get things handled, make the changes necessary, and then basically leave it alone after two years has gone by. In other words, we'll get this done in two years, and after that, it should be fine. Just keep it intact and make it go forward. So that was good news. I kind of figured they'd do that. Now, what I think is really interesting, and I'm sorry that I have to say this, but There were a lot of people, some of you even listening, where I had some conversations, did some shows on both Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy. And I'm not a fan of Elon, as you guys all know. I mean, I think Elon's done a great thing with X and Twitter. He did a lot to help Donald Trump get elected. I don't know exactly where he stands on every single thing politically speaking, but I think he's a lot further right now than he was four years ago. Is he a true blue conservative? Frankly, he might be more conservative than some actual conservatives. Vivek, a lot of people said, you know, both of them, a lot of people said they're just Trojan horses. They're just infiltrating the party so that they can end up, you know, turning things over for themselves and the Democrats when it's all said and done. Yeah, well, how did that pan out? And some of you listening, I got direct text messages and emails from you saying exactly that. I don't trust Musk. I don't trust Vivek. Vivek took all this money from Soros, which I disproved on air many times that he did not. And I've gone through the litany of things that people have thrown at me as to why you couldn't trust either one of them. It's interesting that now they not only helped get Donald Trump elected... they're now going to serve on jointly the Department of Government Efficiency getting rid of government waste. I mean, how ironic for two people that claimed by a lot of conservatives to be Trojan horses are now going to be on the inside of the beltway eliminating a lot of jobs, positions, and government waste that you all probably are a fan of. Anyway, I was thinking about that on my way home last night, that I'd had many a conversation over the years, even when Vivek was trying to run in the primary end of things and some of the things that Elon has done and people saying they're nothing but Trojan horses. Elon, he's not going to do anything with Elon. He's going to end up just suppressing people and free speech and so on, and he's only buying it so he can do more of that. I mean, I heard it all. Literally, I have heard it all. And yet at the end of the day, you were all wrong. I'll just point that out. You were wrong. They neither one have done that. In fact, they have fought more to get Donald Trump elected and help some of his policies out than a lot of other people have. Now, along the lines of Vivek, because he also did a lot of work with Charlie Kirk, which turning point, Charlie Kirk. who never went to college. He's like me, just sort of self-taught, I guess you could say. Goes to college campuses and does a lot of things to convince people to vote and then to vote for our side. And he does it in a very non-threatening, very polite way, open forum kind of a dialogue. He sits up on stage. If you've never seen any of these, I encourage you, go out to his YouTube channel, go to Turning Point USA, watch some of these things. He is one of the most watched individuals in that space there is, and I'm not exaggerating, on all platforms. Facebook, X. TikTok, YouTube, and so on. And the way he sets these little rallies up, it's pretty amazing. I mean, the guy is just a wealth of information that he can rattle off off the top of his head like no tomorrow. The guy amazes me, literally. And for being as young as he is, he just rattles things off like no tomorrow. Now, he had... Vivek, with him in a lot of these meetings and town halls, forums, whatever you want to call them, on college campuses that he went to. Vivek did a great job, by the way. And what's interesting about that is Charlie Kirk is a hardcore Christian. I mean, we'll give the gospel message to individuals as he's having this dialogue back and forth. He is a hardcore Christian. Vivek is not. Very well known, he is not. Now, what Vivek will tell you is, you know, I believe that anybody can have the opportunity in America to have whatever faith you want to have, and I'll respect that. It's interesting to see them up on the same stage, answering the same questions, and Charlie's giving the gospel. You've got to wonder, how much of that is Vivek absorbing, by the way? That's kind of a side note that I've always been thinking. It's like, how can you be around it for that long and not have some sort of impact on your own life? Anyways, I'm digressing because that's a whole other conversation, but you have to wonder that. But Vivek is up there, literally... I mean, talking about the very things that Charlie Kirk is backing up Charlie Kirk on a lot of things, which, by the way, is backing up what Donald Trump wants to do with the country. And it got him elected. There is a great video. If you get a chance to go look at it, there was an interview that Charlie Kirk did on another podcast. And I wish I would have written down the podcast that he was on. But there was a video podcast that Charlie Kirk went on and they were interviewing him. This has just been within the last week as to, you know, what were your marching orders coming out of Donald Trump's campaign? What were they telling you to do? And the real answer is, and maybe what I should do is take a break and come back with this, because it's fascinating what the campaign actually told Charlie Kirk to do in regards to winning over voters. for Donald Trump. So you know what? I'll save that. Let me do it. Let me take a break. I'll come back. It gives me more time to explain that. I can do it more thoroughly. I wish I would have saved that clip. I apologize. I did not. But I can explain it. It's not a problem. I'll be right back and explain that to you. Golden Eagle Financial is next. And Golden Eagle, Al Smith wants to help you with everything, financially speaking, your future, getting there, staying there. Give Al a call today. klzradio.com is where you find him.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. I was able to actually find the Charlie Kirk podcast that he was on, and I wish I knew what this podcast was. I will, again, do my best to try to figure that out. I just happened to be scrolling and watched this last night. And this is about four minutes or so. I don't know that I'll play all of it, but I'll play portions. I may stop it a little bit in chat, but I'll let Charlie explain himself first. what he actually did. And then, like I said, it wasn't just him. It was a lot of people on his team, including the likes of Tulsi Gabbard and Vivek Ramaswamy. So those two went with him on a lot of the things that you're going to hear him talking about. But I find this fascinating. Maybe you will as well. But let me just play it. Here we go.
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helped execute on the ground in some of these states was like, guys, don't spend your time knocking on doors about a suburban soccer mom who's weighing her options.
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OK, I got to stop for a moment because I think this is a mistake that we make even inside of the state of Colorado. And this is something that if I were chair of Colorado, I would stop having candidates do. Now, there's candidates probably listening to me saying, geez, John, why? Listen closely. to what charlie says about knocking on someone's door to get them to vote for you listen to what he says and it'll it'll tell you why that's a bad strategy stats because that takes nine contacts to try to get her nine points of contact on average conversations discussions and they could be thirty minutes on instead
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Turning point, go spend your time in very Republican areas where there are non-registered or what we call disengaged voters. People that like Trump, like his worldview. For example, the bro vote, right? And so this is where we spent our time and we harvested – not ballot harvested, but we harvested in a very, very powerful way –
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OK, I got to stop for a moment. He's going to talk about the universities and so on. But what he said just now was, which, by the way, a lot of Republican candidates listening to me pay attention to this. And if you want the direct link to this, email me and I'll send it to you. Even if you're thinking of running for office, I think this is really key. Keep in mind, this is what the Trump campaign figured out. It's what they did, and they just won an election with way over 300 electoral college votes and won the popular vote as well. And this was part of their strategy. So you heard what he said a moment ago. It takes nine visits to convince that non-voter, that non-Republican voter to vote for you, knocking on their door. Nine times. Most candidates are lucky to get to a place once. Nonetheless, nine times. So then what they said was, don't do that. Go out to these areas where there are Republicans, but they may be disconnected. They've decided for whatever reason or another they're not voting any longer or they don't want to be a part of the team any longer. Let's go focus in those areas instead rather than trying to get that maybe woman that will never vote for you to vote for you anyway. So he's going to talk about now the college campuses.
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Arizona State University, for example, we registered thousands of young men to vote in fraternities. And that was way easier than us going to try to win over swing voters. And we did a little bit of that. But generally, the Trump campaign was brilliant because they threw the Republican consultant playbook out. The Republican consultant playbook was spend all your time on the middle, on those like middle 15 pursuant swing voters and go all in. Trump campaign said, why don't we just make our base bigger? Why don't we just make the people who love us the most? And so what they looked at was demographics and they realized if we can make the electorate three percent more masculine and do. And by the way, they were so smart to do this. This is Susie. This is Susie and James Blair and La Savita. And they were so smart because they said, wait a second, what is more important than race? whether or not you're a man or a woman actually dictates your political affiliation far more of a correlation than your race.
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Which, by the way, everything I said prior to the election and what was happening to the male vote, talked about it a lot the week before, I should say the weeks leading up to. And then after, once we found out what the actual results were, Andy and I hit on this very heavily last week after the election, talking about the disenfranchised, the pushed away, which in some cases, both parties, male voter. Now, the one thing that he talked about was, you know, don't waste all your time on that 15% in the middle. Let's go after the folks that are already on our site. I can't disagree with that. I still think you need to go after those folks in the middle. Now, when you start talking about a state like Colorado, that strategy, I think, has to be a little bit different because we have over half of our voters that are unaffiliated. Over half. I ran the numbers on that for you guys on Tuesday. Andy and I did, and I gave you the exact numbers. We're 2 million plus voters in Colorado that are unaffiliated. So you have to have a percentage of them in Colorado or you're not going to win.
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Emphasized racial politics and they emphasized more of a masculine machismo approach. And boy, did it work. And not only did it work, you're running up against a woman. So it's easier to kind of make that argument. And I don't mean to monopolize. No, this is really interesting. Keep going. And so what the Trump campaign did, the Republican consultant playbook that Karl Rove basically authored was everything is about high propensity. There's two types of voters, high propensity and low propensity voters. A high propensity voter is typically college educated, lives in the suburbs. You know, they watch they watch Chris. They watch CNN. They have an income over one hundred thousand dollars a year. They have two kids and a picket fence and they go to soccer games and they don't commit crimes. You know, that type of demo. Right. High propensity voters is where the Republican Party has always been focused. OK, those were but Trump came in. He said, no, no, no. We're going to focus on low propensity voters. The welder, the electrician, the carpenter, the police officer or the person that's just not registered to vote.
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In other words, the people everybody's forgot about. By the way, the people I rub elbows with. I guess I'll just say it like that. Everybody he just mentioned, those are the people I hang out with. Those are the people that I know. Those are the people that I consult. Those are the business owners that I know. And yeah, you know what? In a lot of ways, we're forgotten in a lot of ways, even by our own party.
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I thought that Donald Trump was going to win, and I wasn't as confident as anybody else, okay? It was when I started to see the voter registration surge across the country. In the summer before this last summer, new people that were registering to vote were registering at Eclipse 3-1 versus Democrat. In Pennsylvania, for the first time ever, in Pennsylvania, for the first time ever, we had every county in Pennsylvania, we were out registering Democrats for the first time ever. Now, mind you, what Josh Shapiro did as governor of Pennsylvania is he put in a thing called
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OK, really quick. This is key because this is where I think the Democrats thought they might have an edge, but it ended up backfiring on them.
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So listen to this motor voter, which means you automatically get registered to vote. They thought that was going to help them when you get your license, when you get your driver's license. It helped Republicans because of lower. Think about who's not registered to vote. It's typically lower propensity voters and PBD. Here's the here's the here's the kicker. Where do these people get their information? Lower propensity voters get information on TikTok. They're not watching CNN. You know why? These folks are darn tired by the time they get home. They're not turning on cable news. They're watching NFL football games. They're the ones that are not going to be able to quote to you, Marbury. It's also this. Yeah, it's also the phone. So what Donald Trump's campaign did is they hacked the 2024 election, not in a way that people would think, where they said, wait a second, everyone has a supercomputer in their right-hand pocket. Why are we worried about what CNN is saying or MSNBC is saying? Why don't we win the information war? And then finally, the kicker. They said, why don't we go on the most ambitious, over-the-top, low-propensity voter communication strategy on Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan, Nelk Boys, Logan Paul, influencer strategies, right? So what they said is there's this whole reservoir. And the final kicker, my mandate at Turning Point was very simple. Charlie, turn Trump supporters into voters.
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There you go. That was the strategy the Trump campaign had. It worked very well. Will it work again in 2028? You know, we'll see. But they did a very good job here throughout this last campaign in doing just that. Joe, you're next. Go ahead.
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John, just a heads up. I've got some good intel that the very first position Musk and Vivek are going to cut is the invisible guy that shakes Trump. Biden's hand when he finishes his speech and turns to walk off the stage. Gotcha. Make sure he's gone.
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Good, good.
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Yeah, that's the very first thing they're going to cut.
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Don't want to be paying that guy anymore.
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No, we don't need that invisible guy shaking by his hand anymore.
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That's hilarious.
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That's all I got for you, John.
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That's hilarious, Joe. No, good one. Appreciate that very much. All right. Again, that was a fascinating clip. Again, I watched that last night, and it'll be, again, interesting to see how does that work. Does that trickle down into some of the other state politics that we have? I will tell you that this is, again, one of the complaints that I have in our own state. is do we do these things well enough? And I'll be flat out honest. No, we don't. We don't. Are we helping? I've got an article I want to talk about when I come back along these lines. Are we helping our candidates? Yes. Enough with these sorts of things. Strategy. How should you look at things? Have you thought about doing this? Are you doing that? Does our state party do those things with candidates? Folks, I guess I'll play ignorant and I don't know, but I highly doubt it. I highly doubt it. We have a state party that's too busy working against our candidates rather than sitting down helping them succeed in their campaign. We'd rather work against them than work for them. And by the way, I just got to say this. Having luncheons and inviting all the cronies in that come to every one of these events is not going to get your candidate elected. Might help you raise a little bit of money. But frankly, if you have a good product, they'll give money with a phone call. You don't need to have a luncheon that you're paying for that's costing you money to To bring money in, you can do that other ways. Trust me, folks, I'm a business owner. I understand that better than anyone. You don't have to buy someone's donation. If you do it correctly, you can get them to donate to anything if they believe in the cause. Something our party here in Colorado doesn't seem to understand. You don't need to do all of those fancy things. to garner support. In fact, you talk about the support that Charlie Kirk just talked about with that low propensity voter. Those folks have money, too. They have the ability to donate. Now, they may not be able to donate, you know, 5,000, but can they donate 500 or 50? And you get 100 of those to donate 50, well, now you're up to your 5,000 again. So my point is, we tend to, as always... We tend to only focus on those that we feel are going to be big donors and forget about the little guy. Donald Trump didn't do that. But I will tell you, as a state party, I feel like we do do that. American National Insurance is next. Make sure that you've got your insurance covered. And Paul Leuenberger, my good friend, can help you with that. He will help you broker whatever insurance you need, even for your business. 303-662-0789.
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All right, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, I talked about Charlie Kirk and the strategy that the Trump campaign had in regards to this last election, the winning of, how they did it, and so on. I also compared that to some of what happens inside of certain states, ours being one of those, Colorado. And it's interesting that Because there was an article that was out this week. Uncle Benny, who is a politician here in Colorado, I interviewed Uncle Benny actually the same day that I interviewed Gabe Evans and a lot of the other folks that were up at the Phoenix Weaponry Open House that we did back in April. I was there on a Saturday. We did Fix-It Radio and Drive Radio from there. And I got to talk to Uncle Benny, who ran for Larimer County District 3. So he has a proposal, and his real name is Ben Asty. But he has a proposal to where he wants to take campaign funding and essentially push that down to future elections. In other words, people that would donate $5, $10, $15 or whatever, and if some of that money isn't used up, you save that money and push it down into a future monies account. Now, and by the way, Uncle Benny, if you're listening, I don't disagree with that, but I want to counter that with something. Isn't that what our state party is supposed to be doing to help you anyways? Charlie, am I missing something there? I mean, I thought that's what our state party was supposed to be there for. Now, I understand the state party can direct where they want monies to go, but to me, this would be where you have a relationship with the state party in some of these more obscure races where there's not a lot of money raised, but they still need some help. Okay, sit down with your party chair and devise a way to where these things can be done, and why does a future elections money account need to even exist if your state party's doing what they're supposed to? And you can tell, folks, I'm being very kind in this because I'm not against Benny. I think, Ben, you've got a great idea. But my comeback is this is what I'm always harping on when it comes to our current party here in Colorado right now. This is what they should be doing. And, yes, before anybody gets after me saying, well, previous ones didn't do it either, I get that. So at what point do you break the cycle? I don't care what previous administrations did here in Colorado with the GOP. Doesn't matter to me. If you want to change it, change it. But quit blaming the past ones. I'm blaming the ones that are there now because they're current. I can't blame the past ones. They're not there now. Blaming Dick Wadhams for stuff that he hasn't really been directly involved in for 20 years doesn't help us today. Rhino Watch, by the way, speaking to you directly. You guys always are willing to pick on past things, but won't look at the log in your own eye. It just cracks me up. We've got candidates that lost. They're now running around saying we've got a way to maybe fix this in the future to where we might win a few more seats in Colorado. They're coming up with the idea. That's not saying that they shouldn't have ideas. They should. But where's our state party in this? What are they doing? So for those of you that are all in for the state party, I'm asking you the same thing. Where are they? Why aren't they helping with some of these things? And if I'm completely wrong and I've missed something, please tell me. I'll publicly announce what that is and what the plan is and what they're doing, but I don't see that they're doing anything other than disrupting. And picking winners and losers. And running in their own races. And trying to ruin primaries. We went over that with Andy on Tuesday. If they would have had their way, we wouldn't have won any of the four. Well, we might have won one of those. But we would definitely have lost three of the four congressional seats that we won in Colorado. We would have lost those. If they would have had their way. So, again, I throw out to you guys that are hardcore on the far right. you know, in the inside of the party, what are you guys doing? I just proved to you, by the way, with the interview that Charlie Kirk was being interviewed on the podcast he was on, that door knocking doesn't help. So I'm begging and asking, what's the answer to win over some of those either fringe voters that are out of the party for whatever reason, that in some cases you may have ran off? How do we bring some of those people back in so we can start regaining some of what's going on in Colorado? Because right now we're going backwards, not forwards. And before a lot of you out there will tell me that, oh, no, no, we're doing way better. We've we've registered and we've got more, you know, we've got more Republican voters registered than there are Democrats. You're smoking dope. You've been down to the pot store too much if you think that. You're incorrect. You're flat out wrong. You're lying to yourself if you believe that, by the way. You're delusional. You have as much of a mental ill problem as the left does if you believe that stuff, because it's not true. So please wake up, look at the real data, figure out what's going on, stop promoting things that are false, claiming that you're winning, because you're not. Plain and simple. You're not. The numbers and the data prove we're not winning. So I hope a lot of you that are listening can look at what I just played, what happened a week ago past Tuesday with Trump winning big. Look at what's happening inside of our state and the fact that we didn't pick up any seats in the state. We didn't lose any, luckily. But the Democrats are on the cusp of a supermajority in Colorado. And what is our state party doing about that? What is our plan of attack moving forward? And as you all go into your assembly next spring, or whatever it is, February, February, March, whatever the date is, as you go into that, please think about what I'm saying right now. Remember this and think about it. I mean, I'll talk about it more as we get closer to that, but please think about that as you elect your next chair. And elect somebody with a real plan. What is the plan to fix what's going on in Colorado when it comes to the conservative movement? What are we going to do? And don't just tell me that, oh, we're all grassroots, we're headed in the right direction. That's not an answer. Telling me you're grassroots doesn't tell me anything, other than in some cases you might be delusional. And I'm sorry, I don't really want to call grassroots Republicans delusional, but some of you are. I see your posts. I see the things that you're after. I see the things that you claim. You're lying to yourself. You're believing a lie. And anytime you believe a lie enough that you start repeating it, you're delusional. That's plain and simple. That's like psychology 101. So please, take a self-check. Figure out exactly where you're at and what you're doing and what's your party doing. to move the ball forward because I don't see that happening. I'll be right back. Roof Savers of Colorado is up next. Dave Hart, if you've got any kind of a problem with your roof, a leak, a gutter, a spout that's not working right, you see a leak coming out of somewhere that shouldn't be there, whatever the case may be, Dave can get out and fix that in between storms. Yes, he works in the winter. Give Dave a call. He'd love to help you out. That's Roof Savers of Colorado, 303-710-6916.
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All right. Happy Thursday. Welcome. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And with the results that we keep having roll in, it is a very happy Thursday. Dr. Kelly Victory with us today. Steve House was planning on being here, Dr. Kelly, but he is a little under the weather, let's just say.
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Exactly. And I'm sorry that he's missing this. I'm with you, John. I feel like we are watching the NFL draft pick here in rapid succession. Trump is announcing those people who he's going to point to these key cabinet positions. I would love to hear Steve's input on some of those. So we'll have to revisit this next week when we've got some additional players on the roster. But so far, so good for certain. Yeah. looking like it's going to be just a stunningly strong team. I've got to tell you, the hammer of justice is about to fall, I feel. It looks to me like Trump is putting in place some people who do not intend to screw around here. They mean business. They are going to hold people accountable. And I think I'm hoping they keep on with this same kind of head of steam, this real urgency. They are wasting no time. And I think come January, they should be able to hit the ground running.
SPEAKER 12 :
Tell you what, he is doing some things on the front side. I talked about this a little bit yesterday where he is really dialed in compared to where he was the last year. That's what the last term I should say. That's where having some experience, Dr. Kelly, four years of which, again, goes back to your experience and what you do. And for those of you listening, if you've not heard. Dr. Kelly before. Now, in a lot of cases, you guys are tuning in from all over the country to hear Dr. Kelly victory. And those of you that do, you know, you can go to the website RushToReason.com. You can find a complete page dedicated to Dr. Kelly and all the work that she's done up to this point. She's been on with us since August of 2020. So it's been over four years now. Dr. Kelly, by the way, and this I hope to hope to say this in the right way. It doesn't seem that long.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I agree. It's amazing. The time has flown by when you think about how much of our lives has been consumed. And for you and me, it's a little bit different, John. Think about somebody who's, say, 20 years old. or in their early teens, the years of COVID, that era represents a large percentage of their lives. You know, 20, 25% of their lives were spent during this dystopian debacle that was COVID. So I certainly am hoping that those same people and ourselves included are looking forward to not just four years later, But hopefully eight or 12 years of really good times, good economic times, strong national sovereignty, patriotism, return to the rule of law, the sorts of things that we enjoyed previously as Americans. And so I am really energized by the rapidity with which Trump has come out of the box and is appointing people, really strong people. Again, there are a few jobs in this world, and mine as a trauma physician is certainly amongst them, where you don't have the time, the luxury to sit around and cogitate and wait and weigh things on, sort of get into analysis paralysis. I think that's sort of what hamstrung Trump the first time around is he really was slow. And many of them are in appointing people and getting stuff done. This time, I think Donald Trump has figured out there is not a minute to waste. We've got to get this ship right. Absolutely. We need to do it fast.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. No, you are a thousand percent correct on everything you just said. Those of you listening, I have a question that did already come in. But if you've got questions specifically for Dr. Kelly, we'll take a break and come back and ask some of those here in just a few minutes. But if you've got a question, the text line 307. 307-200-8222. Again, 307-200-8222. You can send me a message and we'll get that answered as well. Okay, one of the things, Dr. Kelly, we talked about even last week, weren't sure exactly how it was going to pan out, but it looks like on X that President Trump has announced that RFK Jr. will, in fact, be the HHS director.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, and I think that was much anticipated by those of us who had been following along and certainly those of us who know Bobby Kennedy. And I think that that is a really great position for him. In some ways, it's a more powerful position than Homeland Security or Secretary of State or, you know, these people going to the U.N. or wherever else. HHS oversees so many entities. It's the FDA agency. and the NIH, and the CDC, but also Medicare and Medicaid. So many huge healthcare and public health entities report under that one umbrella. And so I think that Robert Kennedy Jr. is the perfect person to do that. He is the definition of czar. He's got the ability intellectually and physically from just an energy standpoint to keep a lot of plates spinning. He can manage a lot of entities. Hopefully he will surround himself with the right people. And I think he can make a huge impact there. And I think also play a role in fixing the systematic issues we have with our food system, food additives, our overall ill health as a nation.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, it's funny, you see, for those of you, maybe you haven't seen this, but I have. I'm sure you have, too, Dr. Kelly, where you see some of the current folks in health and human services compared to RFK Jr., and there is a stark contrast to the individuals themselves that are serving in those positions.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. It's not only in the fact that so many of the people in health and human services are not exactly, shall we say, walking the walk. Many of them are morbidly obese, sedentary people with their own raft of health care issues. But they also are people who have spent far too much of their careers focusing on things that have nothing to do with their core mandate, meaning things like DEI. You know, I heard somebody in the current, meaning the Biden administration for FEMA after the horrific incident. storms that happened in the Carolinas and in Florida, saying things like, we're really focusing on equity in disaster response. I don't even know what that would mean, equity in disaster response, and I'm a disaster response specialist. But people focusing on DEI, you know, LGBTQ, whatever it is, gender affirming issues or the whole gender conversation, equity. These are things that do not belong, certainly, in these different organizations or they certainly aren't their core focus. So Robert Kennedy Jr., I am certain that. will bring a breath of fresh air and a lot of good initiatives to HHS.
SPEAKER 12 :
Question just came in. This one is right along the lines of what we're talking about. Will Trump and RFK Jr., and it's really not so much an RFK Jr. thing, although he could be a part of it. In other words, will this administration hold Fauci accountable?
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, it's a great question, and I certainly hope so. It won't be RFK himself specifically. It is likely to be, however, somebody like a Matt Gaetz. If Matt Gaetz is sworn in as attorney general, you better believe, I think, that Matt Gaetz will hold him accountable. And I think that many of the people in Congress are saying, you know, I've heard many people, including Matt Gaetz, saying, You know, you shouldn't take that. Anthony Fauci should not take a job with some new pharmaceutical company or some new independent company because he's going to be tied up answering and testifying in front of Congress for a good long time. I think they intend to hold his feet to the fire. I certainly hope they do. I am advocating for that, and I hope that ultimately some people will actually be charged criminally. That's what should happen. We know that Anthony Fauci and a whole lot of other people, whether it's Rochelle Walensky or Deborah Birx or Rick Bright and any number of these people, Absolutely lied, perjured themselves, hid data, were participant in the fraud that was COVID. They lied about everything from the safety, efficacy and necessity of the, quote, vaccines to the made up idea of social distancing, the necessity of lockdown, school closures, you name it. The idea of asymptomatic spread. All of this was a big fat lie. And these people need to be held accountable because they destroyed the lives and livelihoods of millions of people.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. And by the way, I can't disagree with anything you just said. I think you are spot on. Question I have, this is my personal question, and we've talked about this in the past. It's been brought up even publicly. There's been some folks, RFK Jr. and others, that have even talked about publicly, podcasts and so on, about the royalties that government workers will receive. Thank you very much. IBM owns the patent. You do not. You are getting a paycheck to work for IBM. Therefore, all of that belongs to IBM. Why in the world do we allow this system to happen inside of NIH, and will this administration fix that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I certainly hope they'll fix it. You're right. I mean, it's absolutely insanity that this has been allowed to go on.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's absolutely garbage. That money should come back to taxpayers, Dr. Kelly. We're paying for it in the first place. It should not be going back to these individuals.
SPEAKER 10 :
Of course. I mean, it is absolute insanity that, you know, Anthony Fauci should be able to hold a patent, should be able to own a patent on a drug or therapeutic that he is then in a position to mandate or suggest should be given to all of humanity. Huge conflict of interest. Talk about a conflict of interest. That's right. I mean, this is, you can't enter a sweepstakes situation You know, for Arby's, if you or if you're an employee members work for Arby's. Right. Right. You've got to fill out the thing that says I don't work there and neither do my family members. And, you know, because Dr. Kelly really along those lines really quick.
SPEAKER 12 :
There are things that I will even get. Surveys and things along those lines, contests, whatever, that just because I'm a, even though I don't consider myself a journalist or a part of media, I am. And there are certain things that I can't participate in along those same lines for that very reason. The reality is it's a conflict of interest and it shouldn't be allowed in the first place.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly, and if nothing else, because what we call the optics are bad. It doesn't look good. That's right. If you participate in something, it's a sweepstakes or a lottery or whatever it is, and you win and you work for them, everybody's going to want to say, did somebody throw it for John Rush?
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did somebody on the inside arrange for their buddy to win? The optics are bad, and if you want people to have confidence in our election system or confidence in the way that drugs are developed, confidence in the fact that the FDA or the CDC or the NIH are saying something is safe and effective and necessary and this is a good drug, then you can't have the people saying it be on the receiving end of the largesse or the benefits. It would be like when you go to Yelp to read a review on something, you don't read reviews that are posted by the manufacturer themselves. If I want to buy a Samsung television, I don't go and read reviews written by Samsung. I read independent ones. We need independence. It all comes down to independence, and we have not had that. It's been going on for decades. And certainly Robert Kennedy Jr. is aware of it. I think more and more people, even the average physician, hopefully is now aware of this horrific conflict of interest. And it must absolutely be eliminated day one.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 15 :
No liberal media bias here. This is Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory joining us today. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. And Dr. Kelly, I had several text messages rolling in, you know, a thousand percent agreeing with what we're talking about. Some going as far as to say we should go back in time and even pull back some of the, you know, confiscate some of those royalties that have been paid. I'm not sure we could ever do that. But the reality is it needs to be stopped moving forward.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. And it's done, you know, in addition to the fact that it's just, you know, completely immoral and unethical. It has done so much to undermine the confidence that people have in these agencies. Nobody I completely understand why nobody would listen to anybody who wears a, quote, public health hat. uh at this point right now after the buffoonery that went on during covid and now understanding how absolutely morally bereft these people are the fact that they have taken these royalties they've been paid insane amounts of money You know, Anthony Fauci was the highest paid individual in our government. Now he's retired. He's still getting $350,000 a year as a pension. Plus, it's my understanding, millions of dollars a year worth of security, transportation, limousines, all of these things. If we're doing what, I don't know. Apparently, perpetrating crimes against humanity is lucrative. Yeah, there you go. But... You know, I agree with whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, whatever listeners are saying, you know, I don't think, unfortunately, that the way our system works, we'd be able to get those things back because they were allowed technically by our own government. But we have got to reverse it immediately if we ever have one of those hopes of regaining confidence.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. There's much more to talk about. Let's squeeze a question in before we move on. Been taking the antivirals echinacea and quercetin that I've learned about from Dr. Kelly on your show. I have a question. I was recently prescribed the drug and I'll not pronounce this right. X-A-R-E-L-T-O. Xeralto? Am I saying that right? Xeralto. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Xeralto, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Xeralto. And echinacea, and it has indications it could possibly interact poorly with that drug, so I stopped taking it. I cannot find anything about quercetin interacting badly with that drug in any of the reliable sources, but my pharmacist, who cannot stand herbal medications and herbal supplements, herbal anything, and tries to vaccinate me every time she sees me, says I shouldn't be taking quercetin with that drug. I was wondering if Dr. Kelly could give me answers, yay or nay, on this and or point me in the right direction to find a solid answer.
SPEAKER 10 :
I am unaware of any interaction with quercetin and any of those drugs. Quercetin is a naturally occurring compound. You simply can't get enough of it through normal dietary sources, namely fruits and vegetables. So we recommend that people take it in an encapsulated supplement form. It's a strong antioxidant of itself and helps with overall immune function. I am unaware of any interaction with that, although I haven't done an exhaustive search.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, we're really quick to stop for just one moment. I mean, why would something that's natural that you're talking about right now have any ill effect anyways? I guess personally as just a layman that kind of knows a little bit about some of this stuff, I would be confused as to why that would be the case in the first place.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, there are some things, for example, even something as simple as grapefruit juice is not to be taken with certain medications. There are certain medications, in particular blood thinners, for example, that can be enhanced by certain things, even though those certain things are natural, say a food or something of that sort. But I am not aware of quercetin by itself having that side effect. So I would ask what I would suggest, and I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I would go back to that same pharmacist and in a non-accusatory way say, could you direct me to the literature? Show me. Good point. Show me. If I shouldn't take it, can you show me what it is because I'm unable to find that. and ask that person to show you. Because I think that at some point, and I have my own physician friends, personal physicians, that roll their eyes or say no to certain things that I suggest. And I say, really, show me. And believe me, you never get the study. You never get an article. You never get a theory.
SPEAKER 12 :
So some of that, because, you know, Dr. Kelly, as you know, I'm from the auto world, the car world, and so on. And I had... a conversation this last Saturday on air with a particular listener because in the auto world right now, even just something as simple as an oil change, you can get all sorts of different feedback from the dealer, from certain independent shops, and, by the way, from the owner's manual. And sometimes they may all disagree. Of course, owner's manual should be, in a lot of ways, the viable, not that it's always correct. There's some things with it that can even be off. But, you know, I think every industry, here's my point, every industry I think at times struggles with, past perceptions of things, and even when something new comes along, they have a hard time adjusting to what's happening. I'm guessing the same thing can happen in your world.
SPEAKER 10 :
Without a question, and there are many people who feel that. I think that supplements and naturopathic medicine and alternative medicine has gotten a bad rap over the years because You know, many times because people threw in the kitchen sink and it is hard to sort out what's real and what's snake oil, meaning what is just pure, you know, junk. But the reality is a lot of people who trained in mainstream medicine and that includes pharmacists are not up themselves personally on some of these natural medications. And therefore, it's just easier to say no. No. Here's what I studied in pharmacy school. Here's what they taught me in medical school. They didn't talk about the use of mushrooms. They didn't talk about berberine. They didn't teach me about quercetin. So it's easier for me just to remain the expert and say, no, don't take that. So there's no question that medications like Xarelto, which happens to be an anticoagulant, it's a blood thinner.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
there are things that can interfere with that. I am unaware personally, as I said, of quercetin being one of those things. So I would ask that pharmacist to show me because if it's the case, then great, we should know that. But I fear that too many times, and I know because as I said, my own, you know, I'm a doctor, but I go to doctors. I still am a patient and I have my own team of physicians. And many times they will say, just without even thinking, not worth it. You know, no data that that works. You know what I'm saying? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's actually a lot of data that this works. And so I'm a big believer. I take a tremendous number of supplements myself, a number of things that are over the counter. And it is everything from mushrooms to berberine and magnesium. I take a lot of quercetin and zinc and I supplement vitamin D. I take ashwagandha, lots of different things. And some of them. Hang on.
SPEAKER 12 :
I got to start from you're an MD also, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, 100 percent. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
My point is there's a lot of folks out there, I think, even in the medical world that would say to your point earlier, well, why are you doing all of that? I mean, literally, because I've heard some of these doctors over the years, Dr. Kelly, you know, to validate even what you've said. I've heard some of them say that exact same thing that, you know, well, you're just wasting your money. You're peeing. You're peeing them all out anyways. Why does it matter?
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Exactly. And it's because it's almost as if if they acknowledge that there are other things out there besides their specialty, they will somehow be less important or or less, you know, whatever value, you know, less, less important. you know, needed, which is silly because there are many, many things. I, you know, I am half Western trained physician, half shaman. I believe very much in alternative therapies and in the fact that we really need to be looking at overall health and wellness and all the things that will keep us well in our diets and And that includes a lot of things that aren't by prescription. So, again, as I said, I am unaware of something, of Quercetin interacting with Xarelto. But if I were this individual, I would specifically ask the pharmacist before I just gave up taking the Quercetin because I think there are good health benefits. I would simply say, can you point me to that literature? Can you point me to it so that I can read about it?
SPEAKER 12 :
OK, that dovetails me into another question that I wasn't necessarily going to ask, but this sort of got my mind thinking and sort of brings up. I think to your point, Dr. Killing, correct me if I'm wrong, but from the top down, I mean, everything from in D.C. around the Beltway, pharmaceutical companies, lobbyists and so on. There really is this anti-anything-that's-not-a-pill-I-pop that's prescribed to me by a doctor and fulfilled by a pharmacist. There's this aura, this mentality, if you would, around the Beltway that all those guys are snake oil salesmen. None of them are any good. And by the way, maybe some of them aren't. But this whole let's-throw-the-baby-out-with-the-bathwater thing, do you feel like because of that, that now that some of this stuff's going to get fixed with RFK Jr. now being in charge of HHS, do you feel like some of that might change?
SPEAKER 10 :
I certainly hope so. I really do. I think that we're starting down a new era. In many ways, as painful... as the last four and a half years were with COVID, I think a lot of people's eyes were opened. We saw behind the curtain. Many people have, you know, we've exposed the soft underbelly of the entire, you know, biomedical pharmaceutical complex and seen where the graft, the fraud, the corruption lay. And not all of it, I'm sure, but a healthy portion of it. So I think a lot of people's eyes were opened due to this as painful as it was. And people are ready to have a new, not only a new guard in charge, but really to look at things, I think, a bit differently. I'm happy that people have eyes. a very healthy skepticism now of pharmaceutical companies. I'm happy that people are saying, wait a minute, you know what? I might just not sign up for those vaccines. Whatever vaccine. Hey, you know what? I might not take your statin drug.
SPEAKER 12 :
Or at least, Dr. Kelly, stop long enough to do more research like what you and I just talked about for the past 10 minutes. Even if they just... take a step back and say, hang on, where's your literature around all of this? Where before, honestly, Dr. Kelly, and I think I'm as guilty as anybody of this, prior to 2020, if somebody said do this, you did that. You never questioned it. Now we're questioning it. That's a good thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's a very good thing, and there's an awful lot of hype. Certainly money drives so much of this. We have an entire – Sections of grocery stores, pages of menus that are dedicated to gluten free. OK, I'm here to tell you there are certain individuals who are gluten sensitive and there are certain people with celiac disease.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is a fraction of a percent. OK, most people are not do not have a gluten issue. There are many other reasons to avoid processed food.
SPEAKER 12 :
They may have a gut issue or things along those lines, but they may not be as sensitive to that as they think. It's what's going on inside of their bodies. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct. Correct. And it's just that we have made an industry out of it. created an industry out of it you know there's you look at every package and it stands you know non-gmo non this and the funny thing about that dr kelly's it'll say non-gmo and a product that never has gmos in the first place correct or they wouldn't have gluten in it in the first place you get a bag of carrots and it says gluten-free i'm like of course it's gluten-free carrots right um right but but you know or but but if i ask people they'll say oh great because it's non-gmo and if i ask 98% of people, what does that mean to be non-GMO? And why is that a good thing or a bad thing?
SPEAKER 12 :
And by the way, can you roll off the labels or the products in the food, I should say? Can you roll off the food in the United States of America that's only GMO or that can be GMO in the first place? Because the reality is I rolled by a peach stand the other day and on it said non-GMO. And Dr. Kelly, I did the research on this one. Peaches don't have GMO anyways. That was 100% false marketing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, bottom line is there's a lot of things about genetically modified organisms that are great. I mean, we genetically modify something so that they're more pest resistant and you can use less pesticides.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
We genetically modify something so that it produces more fruit.
SPEAKER 12 :
In other words, it's not always bad like what some people think.
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct. So, for example, the same people who are buying non-GMO Cheerios are also people buying Eglin's Best Eggs because they have a higher percentage of omega-3 or good fats in the yolk. How do you think they got it that way? They genetically modified those chickens.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm just telling you that at some point, we have got to stop the hype. People have got to get Be educated, be thoughtful, and don't be doing things because people who stand to make money from you doing it are telling you to do it.
SPEAKER 12 :
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory with us. This is our last segment, so if you've got a question for Dr. Kelly, please text it in, 307-200-8222. Dr. Kelly, again, personal question of mine, mainly because I've, you know, talking to you over all these years, Steve as well, also listening to a lot of what RFK Jr. and some others have said. You know, as you know, we, along with New Zealand, only two countries in the world, in the world, for all of you listening, all of the other countries, the, you know... 100 plus other countries that are out there that have television, media and so on. We are the only two countries that allow drug ads, Dr. Kelly. Do you see RFK Jr. and now the Trump administration controlling House and Senate being able to pass a law, which I'm not a big law guy, but this one I would be in. I'd be very much in favor of getting rid of those dang ads.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I've spoken about this specifically with Robert Kennedy Jr. And yes, I know that he agrees. with you and with me that we have got to eliminate television advertising for pharmaceutical companies uh there's a reason why all of the other countries in the world with the exception of us and new zealand don't allow them and to be very clear the reason pharmaceutical companies advertise on tv Isn't because they think for their millions, you know, they'll sell an extra dose or two of Ozempic. They do it so that they can control the media. They do it because they are the big advertiser. They give the money. Thank you. Then the people on the shows, the you know, the it's the power of the purse, right? Anger. Correct. And so Robert Ailes, excuse me, Roger Ailes, the former CEO of Fox News, said previously that he wanted to eliminate pharmaceutical advertising on Fox News, but he couldn't afford to do it because they represented 70% of the advertising dollars for Fox News. I mean, that speaks, but there's also a reason why for the duration of the pandemic, you didn't hear any of their hosts I thought, you know, certainly on MSNBC, CNN or elsewhere, but also on Fox saying anything vaguely critical about the vaccines, for example. They won't do it and they can't. They're told not to because of the big advertising dollars. They don't want to lose that. So if you eliminate that, you eliminate the control. that the pharmaceutical companies have over the media. And we can begin to get back to honesty and integrity and allowing the American public to get access to the real data, the actual facts about any particular product.
SPEAKER 12 :
I again, you know, my feelings on this. I think that would be a very bold move on the part of this administration. I think it would set the tone for a lot of things moving forward. And, you know, as well as I that, you know, would this be a guarantee that on down the road, this would never come back? I mean, I get it. You could relobby, get a new administration in and so on. Although, Dr. Kelly, I think Donald Trump, this is when to get your opinion on this. You get enough things done. And no, folks, it's not four years. It's two because you're only you potentially if you don't do things correctly in the first two, you may not have the second two because of the way the shift in the House can work. Dr. Kelly, as you know, and traditionally speaking, there is a shift in that midterm election against you as a president, not the other way around. Although, if you get in there and really do some of the things even that you and I are talking about where you eliminate some of these paybacks that some of these employees are getting and give that money back to the general populace – and by the way, that could be something that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy work on, by the way, when you talk about government efficiency and doing something with those dollars. I mean, reality is you get in there, really clean some things up. get some things handled, eliminate some of the stuff that you and I just talked about in regards to drug ads and others, and really clean things up, you have a pretty good chance of probably keeping your midterm election strong in your favor.
SPEAKER 10 :
I agree with you. And some of these things are very difficult and will take a long time. You know, ridding out the bad actors in an agency can take some time. That's a counter-distinction, John, doing something like repealing the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that was passed in 1986, the law that Congress passed that gives blanket liability protection, blanket immunity to the pharmaceutical manufacturers, those people who make vaccines. Repealing that could happen with a stroke of a pen. Putting the pharmaceutical companies on notice that from this point, This point forward, if there's a bad event from somebody who takes your shot, you are liable. You can be held liable in a criminal case. You can be liable financially, blah, blah, blah. I guarantee that those sorts of things that could be done quickly will absolutely, I think, garner tremendous support for Donald Trump and for his new administration because people are really hungry for that.
SPEAKER 12 :
What else do you feel? We've got about five minutes or so left where then I have to let you go. This hour just screams by for all of you listening. Again, we've been doing this for four-plus years, and it just rolls by so quickly, Dr. Kelly. I learn something new every single week. But when it comes to this particular office, HHS, RFK Jr., you know him as well as probably anybody I've ever talked to. What are some of the other things that you feel are a big deal to him he's going to want to accomplish pretty quickly?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think, again, with regard to pharmaceutical companies, I think he will disarticulate, eliminate, end, one way or another, the contributions that those companies make to the medical journals. Because right now our medical journals are absolutely not to be trusted. I don't care if it's JAMA, Lancet, New England Journal. What they are publishing is nothing more than the marketing for big pharma. We cannot trust the studies. because big pharma is paying for them. Robert Kennedy would attack that. He would attack the fact that the pharmaceutical companies are supporting our scientific labs, quote unquote, so that whatever the research is that's getting pumped out of Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Duke, whatever it is, we can't trust it. We need to be able to trust it. And the only way that happens is if the pharmaceutical companies aren't involved. He would address that. I think bringing back, we've got to, believe it or not, you wouldn't know it after these four years, medicine actually has a code of ethics. Code of Ethics that has four pillars, the first of which is autonomy. The first pillar is autonomy, which starts with the ability for you to make every decision regarding what you do or don't do for yourself medically. So the end of mandates, I think you will really address the idea that we cannot ever allow people to be mandated to participate in a medical procedure or to take a therapeutically or drug of any sort. These are the sorts of things that I think Robert Kennedy will do. Hand in hand with that is informed consent. I think we can never allow, and I know that Bobby agrees, we can never allow what happened with regard to the lack of informed consent during COVID to happen again. That is something that resulted in tremendous harms. So we've got to get back to our basics, back to the four pillars of medical ethics, And I think that Robert Kennedy Jr. is the perfect person to lead that charge.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think, and this is something everybody has to realize, you take what he's going to do with HHS, and then you throw, again, that other office that I was just talking about, DOGE, Department of Government Efficiency, you take those two guys working alongside him on some of the very things that you just talked about a moment ago. I tell you what, if personally, Dr. Kelly, yeah, there's a lot of things in government we should look at, Department of Education, et cetera. I mean, we can go down the list. But everything you just said, if I were those three guys, along with Donald Trump, there is a plethora of things you could work on right out of the chute and start cleaning things up and save budgetary money right off the top.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my gosh. They should eliminate. I see absolutely zero rationale for having a federal Department of Education.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
The Department of Education was founded in 1979. I graduated from high school before we had a Department of Education, and I somehow managed to do pretty darn well. Since we've had a Department of Education, high school graduation rates are in the gutter. We score way down the totem pole in terms of where we stand against other countries, including our foes like China. So eliminate that. Send those monies back to the state. Each state can decide what they need to do in their state. What they need in Mississippi is different from what they need in Ohio. They can figure it out. That's what states are for. Get rid of it. You would eliminate so much waste and fraud right there. The IRS, same thing. All of those 80,000 additional people who were hired.
SPEAKER 12 :
Put them on the border, somebody said the other day here on air, Dr. Kelly. To me, you know what, you signed up to carry a gun for the IRS, you can go to the border with one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. Exactly. You know, put them to work. Right. What they're doing right now is doing nothing more than hassling taxpaying American citizens, from what I can tell. You know, so there's so many things where very, very quickly we could unwind some of the waste and fraud. Absolutely. And I certainly am hoping that that happens. It's an exciting time. It's also a treacherous time. Keep your eyes open.
SPEAKER 12 :
Honestly, Dr. Kelly, you have about 18 months to really do the things necessary before a lot of these congressmen will have to run for reelection and or even new elections to take over additional seats, which, again, if you do this correctly, you could have a majority, a real good majority in the House if you do this right and really show people, hey, we are out for you, the American people, not big pharma, not big insurance and not big government.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no, no question. There's a tremendous amount that can happen. It's all very positive. I think that people need to keep their eyes open. However, particularly between now and the inauguration there, the Democrats are not happy about that. Many of them are scared to death about the concept, for example, of a Matt Gaetz election. sitting in the office of the Attorney General because he's going to pull no punches. Having people like Pete Hegseth in place, these people mean business, and the Democrats aren't happy about it. And we've seen from the past that they will stop at nothing to try to bring Donald Trump down. So I pray every night for the safety of Donald Trump, for those around him, for cooler heads to prevail during all of this. And for there to be an actual peaceful transition of power, we need to get through January without any major meltdowns. And then I think we're on the road to some very, very good times for this country.
SPEAKER 12 :
Amen. I cannot disagree with any of that. Again, all of you listening, Dr. Kelly Victory, you can find everything about her. We've got an entire page dedicated on our website, RushToReason.com. You can find her there. And for the questions, by the way, there's a lot of times where, especially as we go through the holidays, there may be, for example, Thanksgiving Day, where you might even be listening to us on Thanksgiving Day in this very program. Not sure exactly how I'm going to do all of that. But if you are and you still have questions, please text me. I'll do my best to get those answered, even on the weeks where we don't happen to be here because of the holidays. Again, 307-200-8222. But, Dr. Kelly, I will let you go. I know you have another commitment. Thank you so much for what you've done for us over the last four-plus years. I was telling somebody before coming on air today, it's an honor to know you. We are very thankful to have the partnership with you that we have.
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Well, thank you for allowing me the platform, John. I think it has been really meaningful and impactful. And in the meantime, have a blessed and delicious and restful Thanksgiving holiday. I hope that it's great. And we will talk, I guess, the week after. That's right. Two weeks after. That's right. That's right. Dr. Kelly, again, thank you.
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All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Leighton Gray joining us now. Welcome back, Leighton. How are you?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm well, thanks. It's great to be on the show again.
SPEAKER 16 :
I appreciate it. Host of the Gray Matter podcast. You're also senior fellow for the Frontier Center for Public Policy. Talk to us about Trudeau. And he's bringing back a cabinet committee meeting addressing the relations between the U.S. now that Trump won.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so for the benefit of your listeners, essentially the Trudeau government is a Chinese client state. Since coming to power in 2015, they've been up to all the same stuff that the Democrats have been in the United States, only it's progressed very, very quickly because there's not as much opposition to it that's happened in the U.S.
SPEAKER 16 :
You don't have the same checks and balances, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Unfortunately, right now, we've got a coalition government that gets to do pretty much whatever it wants. However, the good news is he is the least popular prime minister in the history of our country. Even his own party wants him gone. And they're very, very worried about Donald Trump. You might recall back in February of 2022, when the truckers convoy got broken up in a very totalitarian, authoritarian way. Donald Trump was at CPAC and he said, you know, when he becomes president again, he's going to free Canada from this authoritarian, totalitarian dictator. They never got along very great previously. I don't think Trump has a lot of respect for Justin Trudeau.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I agree with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's interesting, earlier in the year when it was clear that Donald Trump was going to be the Republican nominee, Trudeau actually sequestered his cabinet for three days, worried about whether or not he would win. And recently he did likewise once more. So I think that... I think that the winds have changed. You know, there used to be an old joke, William Williams used to joke that Canada was a loft apartment over a great party. But, you know, there's a lot of lawmakers in the U.S. who are looking at Canada and saying, does Canada pose a geopolitical threat to the safety and security of of the United States because of its deep infiltration by China.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm going to stop you for a minute there, Leighton, because as an American, I've had even kids, family living in Canada at one time, had a son-in-law in Canada. So I know a little bit about what goes on up there, not near as much, of course, as you do. But what I would say as an American, several years ago, I would have said, what's the risk of – Canada doing anything. I mean, that's about as friendly of a country as you could ever imagine, and I can't think of anything ever happening in that way. Today, though, Leighton, I will agree with those that would say, yeah, given what you're talking about, and I've watched some of this myself from down here, what you've said in regards to Trudeau and his administration, I guess you could say, yeah, I think it's a threat.
SPEAKER 08 :
I do, too, I think maybe for the first time since 1812 when they burned down the White House or tried to. But, you know, I don't think that the Trump administration is going to tolerate this. I think that because the American election, and you may disagree with this, but as someone who's outside of the United States, it's very clear that the rest of the world is sees MAGA as a global movement. Not a globalist movement, but a global movement. I can't argue that.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree with that. I think it's going to have far-reaching... No, really quick, to back what you just said up, and you maybe saw this, I watched some clips prior to the election I shared with my audience where I was watching video clips of people in Japan, not Americans in Japan, but Japanese carrying American flags, marching down the street with MAGA hats on at the same time, thinking, wait a minute, this isn't just in America... This is happening everywhere.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is. It's the response to globalism. Right. The real enemy behind globalism, as everybody should realize, are the Chinese. They're challenging U.S. hegemony globally. And I don't think the new Trump administration is going to have any of it. And so I would I expect and many Canadians hoped. that the Trump administration is going to take a much more sincere interest and scrutiny over the domestic politics of Canada. Because everything that Justin Trudeau and his government are supporting is everything Donald Trump has already said he's against.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can't disagree with anything you just said. And by the way, it's sad that it's come to that point because Canada doesn't need to be that way, as you know. I mean, it has been in the past a great country, a great ally of ours. We have had great relations back and forth over the many, many centuries, literally, that we've been doing that late. And the reality is it doesn't need to be disrupted. Unfortunately, much like where we were headed as a country, and as you just said a moment ago, We just happen to be lucky enough to have a few more checks and balances and have the ability to disrupt some of what the Chinese government would like to do to the U.S. Unfortunately, you guys are all in.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's unfortunately at the government level, not at the populist level. That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you. Thank you for the clarification. Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Canada is behind the United States in terms of an organized populist movement, which is what MAGA is. I was at a Trump rally in Henderson, Nevada recently, and I witnessed it firsthand. And unless you've seen it, you don't know how real it is. And it's much deeper than politics. Canada's not there yet, but I believe that that tide is rising, and I believe that that tide is going to be driven by MAGA.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can't argue that. I think, number one, people are just – and by the way, Leighton, it just happens to have the label of MAGA, but I think what it really is, is your point a moment ago. It's anti-globalism. It's, hey, we want to have things the way they used to be, and we're not in for having one superpower, you know, albeit – China ruling the world. None of us want that. We want to go back to some of the autonomy we once had. We can get along as different countries. We can benefit one another accordingly. And we want to go back to what that once was. So call it MAGA, call it anti-globalism, call it whatever you want, but that's what it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I would say it's not even going back. I think from listening to what Mr. Trump is saying and seeing some of these appointments he's made, he's going forward. I think he's going on the attack against globalism.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, I can't argue that. No, no, no. What I meant by going back is there was a time where globalism wasn't on the forefront light. It's been a while. I mean, that's been going on. I'm 60 years of age, and globalism has been around for a very long time, started here in probably the early 60s, but it really has gotten legs in the past 20 years.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. The left has been on the rise, and, of course, there's a lot of reasons for it. It's our universities. It's the media. It's expanding bureaucracy everywhere, expanding size of government. But it sounds like in the United States there's a plan to deal with all of that, And I believe that's going to have far-reaching implications for Canada and also for the rest of what we used to call the free world.
SPEAKER 16 :
And what I really should have said a moment ago, because I've said this many times on the program, and I don't know why it didn't come to my mind a moment ago. Really, what this is all about, Leighton, is it's anti-Marxism. That's the movement going on. Call it MAGA, whatever you want to label it. But really, at the end of the day, it's anti-Marxism. And because it's not just China, by the way, that believes in that. It's Russia. It's North Korea. There's many countries out there that want to be that. And what's interesting is once they start to get hold, then they start fighting amongst each other because— Somebody can only be at the top. It can't be everybody. And they're not going to allow that. So what they don't even understand amongst themselves is they'll be fighting with each other at some point, even though they claim to be allies right now, Russia, Iran. But at the end of the day, Leighton, this is us against Marxism.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, and this is very true. And, you know, Dennis Prager, who, by the way, is in the hospital.
SPEAKER 16 :
I saw that. Yeah, prayers go out to him. I did see that today.
SPEAKER 08 :
He likes to say that America is the last best hope. for humanity. And he's right. And fortunately, right now, the man of the moment is the right person at the right time. And it's not just him, it's the whole coalition. And I really pray that this is going to be something that is going to sweep the globe. Because it's a movement that I think has come of age. I think it's an irresistible force. And I think Although they're not going to give up easily, the left never does, I don't think that they can withstand what's coming in terms of the populist movement. You can see the pendulum has started to swing, and you can see the broad shoulders of the United States swinging that hammer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, what happened here, Leighton, and it could happen very well in Canada and other countries as well, I call it the not even forgotten man, and literally I mean male, I don't mean female. I mean the pushed away, forgotten man, the anti-male movement in America finally came to roost, and men finally woke up and said, you know what? We're tired of this. We're tired of being told all the time that we're worthless. We don't amount. Our opinions don't amount to anything. And by George, we're going to vote and we're going to vote for the guy that's probably the ultimate alpha male out there. And that's the direction we're now going to head. And that's where we're at.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, it's almost like the plot of an old Western movie, you know, like Pale Rider, you know, where these gangsters come into town and the gunslingers take over the town. And then this outsider comes from nowhere into the town and clears out all the bad guys and restores the confidence. of the people in the town, and they help this outsider restore sanity. It's the same sort of idea with High Noon. You're right. And that metaphor seems to be what's happening in the United States. And expanding the metaphor, I hope that that town will also be you know, the global community, because we really have to respond to all the bad guys. That's right. Amen.
SPEAKER 16 :
Amen. I'm with you. We're, you know, we want the same thing for Canada that we've had here, because I'll tell you right now, Light and I've got good friends that live in Canada. And again, I used to have family there. And I'll tell you that, you know, Trudeau is one of, if not the worst things that's ever happened to you guys.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he is. He's everybody gets every country seems to get one. And we've got our Justin Trudeau.
SPEAKER 16 :
But OK, before I let you go really quick, because I know there's somebody running in opposition to him. How is that going? He's very Trump like, by the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, he is. I would say that he's more like Ron DeSantis than Donald Trump. But that's still a pretty good version of conservatism, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think Ron DeSantis would have been an excellent president as well. So we have his name is Pierre Polivier. And, you know, he's adapted himself. He's very clever. He watches the polls and he sees the impact of the popularity of Donald Trump And so I think that what he has been doing is sort of leaning towards some of the policies that are so popular in the U.S. and that many Canadians want. So I would see once he becomes a prime minister, I would see, I foresee a close relationship between the United States and Canada, much like what we had when Ronald Reagan was president and Brian Mulroney was our prime minister back in the 80s.
SPEAKER 16 :
What's that timeline look like before I let you go?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's a great question. Everybody wants him gone. We may get an early election here, but the absolute limit is going to be October of 2025, which sounds like a long time away. Not that far.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, not that far. Leighton, how do folks find you, sir?
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The best way to find us is obviously the podcast is everywhere you find podcasts, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Podbean. But to follow us is on our X page, which is at graymatterconvo. If you like what you see, please follow us. And thank you for having me.
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All right, we are back. And somebody also mentioned that on the text line that part of the reason why Matt Gaetz resigned like he did is because he knows that Ron DeSantis can just appoint somebody to take his seat right away. That's incorrect, by the way. As I talked about on the podcast this last week, which you'll hear, it was on last night, you'll hear it again tomorrow if you want to listen to it or just go to the podcast and listen to it online. But Bob Duco and I were even talking about that because even Bob, which Bob's really smart, But this doesn't happen a lot, and the only reason why I knew about it was because of what had happened here in Colorado with Ken Buck. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have known either. It's constitutional across the country, not state by state, that if you resign your seat as a U.S. representative, there has to be a special election. The governor controls the timing of elections. that special election, but there has to be another election. And if you think about it, the reason for that is because representatives are from the people, meaning we elect them. They're not appointed or put in place by another quote-unquote bureaucrat. Senators, that's a different situation, because they're for the state. They represent the state, not... The people, now they represent the people through the state, but you get where I'm going with this, because there's two different roles there. Senators, yes, typically speaking, I think there's 14 states that do a special election, but 36 states, the governor appoints whoever is in that vacancy, that seat that's vacated, the governor then appoints someone to fill that. That's for senators. But in the case of Matt Gaetz, once he resigns, or any of these people, Stefanik, etc., if a U.S. House member resigns, there has to be a special election. This is where I think it's a little dicey for Donald Trump, because you've got to worry about, you know, if there's something... needs to happen quickly, and we're in the midst of making sure we get seats filled back in from these special elections, is there enough in the House to make this particular bill run through? You know, can I get it passed? Now, somebody also asked me about recess appointments. Yes, Donald Trump can do recess appointments, meaning he can appoint people during the recess of Congress and the Senate and so on. He can do that. Here's the catch that I learned. And again, I'm not an expert in any of this, but this is what I've learned. He can appoint them, they can go through that recess appointment, they can get confirmed, because it's a much less, you know, it's not as near as stringent a thing to go through in that particular situation. They can be confirmed, but they can't get paid Until back in session. That's what I've learned. And you guys can check me on that to make sure that I'm correct. But I believe that's what I've been told. And I believe that came from a very reliable source. And I believe that is correct. So, yes, he can do recess appointments. Presidents do. Every president does. Obama did it. Biden did it. It happens. Trump can do it as well. But to my knowledge, and what I believe is true, that can happen. They can be appointed. They can have all that done and even start serving, but they cannot be paid until everything's finally checked off correctly once session starts. So that is my knowledge on how that works. And somebody asked if I would explain recess appointments and what Donald Trump can do. And there's a lot of, you know, details here. And again, folks, these are things where you've got to almost be a student of the Constitution to understand all these things. You know, a lawyer is, I guess, what I'm trying to say. And I'm not. I am not. I am one of you. I still coach other businesses, run my own business, do all sorts of other things, and yes, I do this show, and yes, I study a lot for this show, but I am not a constitutionalist. I am not an attorney. I interview a lot of them, both constitutionalists and attorneys, so I've learned a lot over the years from those individuals, but I'm not one, and I've never claimed to be. But I do read a lot, and I do believe that that's the case. Speaking of people vacating their spot, there was an article out today in the Colorado Sun About Colorado Senator Chris Hansen, who, by the way, is about as far left as you can get. I'm not sure you can go any farther left than Chris Hansen. And I mean that. He is responsible for a lot of the laws. And if I get time today, I'll talk about when some of these, you know, when he's going to affect some of the bills and stuff that even were passed here recently. Stuff that was even done in the last session. He's responsible for. He was the sponsor of. He is a true blue lefty. Who just resigned. He just won his new seat. And by the way, this is a guy that's never won an election until now. He's been appointed until now. He just won. He just resigned, meaning his seat will now be appointed. And he's going to work for a utility down in Durango. And my point with this is, what a scumbag. You knew you weren't going to be here. Guaranteed, he knew he wasn't going to be here. But because he was worried about somebody else from our side winning that seat, he went ahead and ran. I mean, smart on their part. I'll give Democrats credit where credit's due. They were smart in this. He went ahead and ran one, and now since he won't be able to serve, he resigns, and somebody gets appointed to take his place. What a load of garbage, by the way. Chris Hansen, you should be ashamed of yourself. I know you're not. You're a lefty. You'll never be ashamed of yourself, but you should be. What a crock of garbage. This guy basically sews up the left having this seat no matter what, even knowing, I believe, going into this, that he was going to go to work for this utility. Because, by the way, those types of jobs don't just come up last minute. It's not something that he interviewed for yesterday. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. That's been something probably he's been interviewing on the last several months. If not, maybe a year. Who knows? When you go to run, basically be in charge of a utility. Trust me, I've known people in that world. Some of you listening have been in that world, and those things don't happen overnight. There is a complete, especially now with DEI and everything else, there is a complete interview process that goes on with multiple people, internally and externally. Trust me, he knew far in advance what was going on, but because he's such a coward, he didn't want to admit to any of that, and he just resigns, and now somebody else gets appointed to his Senate seat. That's how the left plays, guys. That's how the left plays. Give them credit. You know, they won fair and square. Nothing he's doing is illegal, by the way. It's just, in my opinion, very dishonest. And I will tell you it's unethical. But the left doesn't have ethics. So why would that matter? They accused Donald Trump of not having any. And yet they'll do this. What a bunch of hypocrites, by the way. If a Republican had done this, the left would be all over this saying the same thing I'm saying. They'd be crying foul all day long. Trust me, I know them enough to know that. Look at those dirty, rotten Republicans and what they just did. That guy knew he wasn't going to ever serve, but they knew that he could get replaced right away by somebody in an appointment. So, you know what? They knew all along. It wasn't a fair and square election. That's exactly what the left would say. You guys would be whining from here to the moon and back. I'm not whining. I'm mad. What a load of garbage. And by the way, that's something that won't make the mainstream news, what I just said. It'll make it that, oh, yeah, he resigned to go take over the utility down in Durango. Yeah, that'll come up, but not what I just said. Nobody will take the angle I just took. You won't get that out of our mainstream media here in Denver, not at all. Because they're a bunch of cowards, too. You won't hear Kyle Clark talking about this, guaranteed. Somebody should put a little bug in his ear. What a load of garbage. This guy should have resigned during the campaign and said, I'm not going to be able to serve. I'm taking a job down in Durango as a head of utility there. But again, this is what the left does. They'll tell you how upstanding they are. And oh, yeah, you know, you guys on the right, you don't have any ethics whatsoever. Look at Donald Trump. That guy is just a womanizing pig. And yet you'll do this. And claim victory in it. And not think twice about it. I guarantee you Chris Hansen doesn't think twice about it. Again, my biggest issue with Chris is some of the things that he's passed or made pass here in Colorado that we're all going to now suffer for. Total scumbag. Yeah, I'll call it like it is. Total scumbag. I don't care if he's a senator here. Well, he's not a senator. Now he's resigning. What a scumbag. Good riddance and have fun, Durango. You got a total lefty that's going to go down there and run your utility. Have fun. When the power isn't on, don't come crying to us. Because this is the kind of guy that'll go down there and make you run on windmills and solar. Trust me, that's who this guy is. So have fun down there when the power is out. And don't come crying back to us. I know Durango can't hear me, but some of you guys listening will push that down that way and let them know that. What a load of garbage. All right, Hi-Fi Plumbing is next. 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All right, might as well keep talking about Democrats. Our very own Governor Polis, the poser that he is. Yeah, I mean that sincerely. What a joke that guy is. Illinois and Colorado governors announce a state-level coalition to resist Trump policies. All of a sudden, Polis is states' rights. All of a sudden. What a clown. What an absolute clown. First of all, I see nothing that Donald Trump's going to do that would take away states' rights. He hasn't said anything about that. In fact, if anything, for example, he gets rid of the Department of Education, he's throwing that right back to the state. He has said numerous times, I will not sign a nationwide abortion ban. I believe him when he says that. That's a states' rights issue, much like the Supreme Court said. So I don't see Donald Trump doing anything that wouldn't do anything but shore up states' rights versus what I guess these guys feel, these coalition of governors feel, that he's going to somehow rain down federalism on them. Again, this is all just a bunch of posing, just a bunch of nonsense. Gets Polis in the news. Gets him set up for 2028. Trust me when I say that, by the way. If you don't believe me, I'm sorry, but that's most likely what's coming. He will be one of the frontrunners in 2028. This is part of what he's doing. So they're going to be co-chairs. Pritzker. of Illinois and Polis will be the co-chairs of the new nonpartisan, I always laugh when they say that, coalition of the nation's governors committed to protecting the state-level institutions of democracy, which we don't have anyways. Ahead of Donald Trump's incoming presidency, governors safeguarding democracy, or GSD, will be overseen by governors and supporters and supported by a network of senior staff designated by each leader while being supported by the Governor Act, an organization championing fundamental freedoms. Again, they act like Trump's going to come in and take everything away from us as a state. Nothing could be farther from the truth. What a waste of money, by the way. Every one of these things, by the way, doesn't run for free. Your tax dollars, as Coloradans, will go to support this. The staffing, our participation in, and so on. This stuff doesn't happen for free. They're collecting money somehow. So GovAct is advised by a bipartisan board that includes former Republican and Democrat governors and senior officials like former GOP Governor Arne Carlson of Minnesota, former Democrat Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, and former Governor Bill Weld of Massachusetts. And frankly, I don't care who sits on this thing. Now, when Biden was there, yeah, I'd want a coalition of governors to protect state rights because they're big Federalists. They want the federal government to control everything. As you guys know, I'm a states rights guy. I don't think we have enough states rights. I think far too many things are run by the federal government. I go as far as I was thinking of this the other day. I would even go as far as to say, do we really need the whole gas tax, federal funding, federal highways, all that kind of stuff? At one time, you know, Ike put in the federal highway system, the interstate system for national security. So we could run nuclear warheads, weapons and so on back and forth across the country as needed. Bridges had to be a certain height. The highways had to be a certain width and so on and so forth. Folks, with the ability for us to transport and do things the way we can now via air and other things that weren't available back then, do we even need that? And by the way, it's built. It's not like we have to build it again. Why can't that money just be diverted to each state on their own and let them handle it and get the feds out of it? Why do the feds have to be involved in the highway system at all in today's world? And if I'm wrong, lines are open 303-477-5600. I'll take a late break here and go for another few minutes here. So if you want to call in, feel free to do so. Why do we need an interstate federal funded interstate system? Maybe that is something that DOGE... The new department set up by Trump that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will run, maybe that's one of the things they'll look at, because I can guarantee you there's a huge amount of waste in that. The Mavis Act that makes... Every single worker that's in one of those projects get paid an above-average wage, costs all of us money. You talk about another area of waste, that's another one you can get rid of. Go to Congress, get that thing changed, get it reversed, get rid of it. If a contractor wants to go out, and they're going to have to pay a wage to have workers anyways, but why do they have to meet a certain hourly wage for a flagman, for example? Or a guy setting cones. Or the guy running the excavator. Or the guy running the paver. Or, or, or. I can go down the list. Every one of those jobs has a set wage by the feds. It's total garbage. All it does is cost us more money. It's ridiculous. Another way to save taxpayers money is eliminate that. Get rid of it. I would add to that, get rid of the whole federal operation of interstate and the roads anyways. Let each state handle that. You know, it's not like we do a great job of that anyways. You know, drive out of Colorado around any state that we're bordering and tell me how much better the roads are across the border versus ours. So it's not like Colorado is spending that money efficiently. You know, Governor Polis, he wants more states' rights. He can't even fix our roads. He can't take the money that we're even getting from the feds when it comes to that. He diverts it into other things. What a clown. What a clown. And if you don't believe what I just said, go drive it. I'm guessing he hasn't. He's usually on an airplane, not driving, I'm guessing. So he probably doesn't know what the edge of the border looks like going into New Mexico and Utah and Kansas and Nebraska. And I can go down the list of the seven states that border us. The reality is he doesn't know because he doesn't care. He acts like he does. Like I said earlier, he's a poser. He makes it sound like he's all high and mighty for you guys as Coloradans. He could care less about you as citizens of Colorado. He does not care. I don't care what he says. He doesn't care. His actions tell me he doesn't care. In fact, last I checked, he calls most of you selfish bastards. Because you don't wear your mask. That's what he thinks of you, by the way. That's what our governor thinks of you. Can't believe that guy got reelected. What an absolute clown. It's our own fault he didn't. Sorry. It goes back to the conversation I had earlier about our party. And yeah, in that case, I'm blaming the last folks that were in charge. Regardless, we've got to do a better job. We've got an opportunity to have a better governor in 2026, but we've got to start now, and I guarantee you we haven't. I'm not sure why, but we haven't. Anyways, this whole article about this whole coalition of governors basically making it sound like Donald Trump's some sort of a tyrant. All he's going to do is rule over the states. He's going to take states' rights away and so on. What a load of garbage. Again, this is nothing but... posing. It's a scare tactic. It's making people in the state afraid of Donald Trump and the federal government because they think all of a sudden Trump's just going to march through here and take over with the National Guard, which he doesn't even have control of, I guess over the military. I mean, it's just lunacy. Stuff's not going to happen. Trump's not going to do one single thing to take anything away from us as a state. Not one thing. So, if anything, he will add back to what we do here, i.e., the Department of Education. He gets rid of that, we have more money at the end of the day. So I don't see any of that happening whatsoever. Dan, go ahead. We've got a few minutes.
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So on top of our illustrious governor that we have, he appointed his whatever you call him, the person he's married to.
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The first man?
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Yeah, I guess, whatever. First gentleman, sorry. First gentleman. He's over Parks and Wildlife.
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Oh, I forgot about that. You're right, Dan. Yeah, you're right. The guy that's probably never been outdoors really hunting, fishing, anything along those lines, but yet he's in charge of it.
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But he loves the wolves, so that's why we got the wolves.
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You're right.
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Because they made that decision that the Parks and Wildlife couldn't come out for or against the wolves. And there's a lot of probably wildlife biologists that would have said don't vote for that wolf thing. So it's going to be a battle. I don't know what we're going to do about that. But the Cattlemen's Association and all the Sportsmen's Association have got to get together and start working on how we can combat. Yep. nepotism that's going on with the state.
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I can't argue that. And again, these sorts of things, as I said, and I mean what I'm saying, Dan, as you know, this is all just posing. This is all just optics. This is to make Governor Polis seem bigger than he really is so that as he goes to potentially run for president in 2028, that's all this is for.
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And think about his executive order on catalytic converters.
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Yep.
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You know, he's They pose themselves as being so caring and everything, but what about the single mom who's trying to raise two or three kids and she can't afford to have her catalytic converters fixed?
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Because there's three times as much doing it the way he wants done. Absolutely.
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Yeah, and he doesn't care about them. He says he does, but he doesn't care about single moms. And so I don't know. That's just my two cents.
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Dan, I'll let you go. That's a great point. You're spot on. If he really cared about people in the state of Colorado, number one, he wouldn't have the EV mandate. Number two, he wouldn't have done with the catalytic converters what Dan just talked about, because, yes, it increased the cost of getting that replaced twofold, if not threefold, depending upon the car. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. He'll tell you that he does. But it's all false promises. It's all false. He doesn't care. His actions tell you that he doesn't care. And I don't care if he's listening or not. I hope he is. You're the biggest poser out there. I got nothing good to say. Sorry. I have nothing good to say. The only attaboy that I'll ever give Governor Polis is he's a great strategist because that's what he's doing here. He's good at strategy. He understands that end of it. He knows who to pander to. And he does a good job of that. Outside of that, I mean, I don't have any use for him as a governor, period. He's done nothing for us as a state as far as I'm concerned. Just look at our oil and gas industry and how he's decimated that. And then tell me how much he loves our state. Now, he'll come back and say, whoa, it's all for the good of the people because we're cleaning up the environment and the air and blah, blah, blah. What a bunch of nonsense. Literally. That technology has gotten so much better today that why Colorado isn't drilling and drilling and drilling and drilling and exporting and exporting and exporting its gas and oil and making even more money off of it as a state is beyond me. We have that ability, especially now with what Trump's going to be doing. We more than have the ability now to do that and capture some of that. Capitalize on that is what I should say. Cash in. Flesh Law coming up next. And Kevin wants to help you with whatever legal needs you have. Civil, criminal, Kevin can do it all. He's not afraid to go to court. He'll represent you whatever he needs. 303-806-8886.
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All right, I will on Tuesday talk about a particular article that really proves what Andy and I have been talking about for a long time now. I've been calling for the removal of Dave Williams from the GOP chair for, oh gosh, almost two years. Literally, close to two years. I know he's not quite been there two years, but I started right after he got in. There's an article in Colorado Politics talking about Jarvis Caldwell calling out Colorado Republican leadership for lack of support. And if you don't believe some of what I've been talking about in regards to the current GOP leadership, read that article. Andy and I will get into that on Tuesday. We'll go through this. It literally just solidifies all the things that Andy and I have been talking about for a long time now. Again, I was not bragging, but I was the first person on air, I think in the press period, to start calling out Dave Williams and all the shenanigans the guy pulls. I was on a mission. Still am. I want the guy gone. I want him gone from Colorado. Literally, pack up your family, move back to Florida. Gone. I mean that sincerely. I'll pay his moving expenses even. You heard me. Yes, I said that. I'll pay his expenses. Pack it up, Dave. Get out of here. Move back to Florida where you came from. Or New Mexico or wherever it was. I think his last stint was Florida. Don't quote me on that. I'd have to go look for sure. But regardless, I want him out of Colorado. He has done nothing but tear our party apart. In fact, I always have wondered, is there really an R next to his name or is it a big D? Democrat. Democrat. I don't know. He acts like a Democrat more than he acts like a Republican. The cronies that are around him do the same thing. And if you're somebody that's surrounding yourself with him or if you're around him, shame on you, by the way. You're not very bright. There are some people, by the way, that have been around Dave that I had some respect for at one time that I have zero for now because I can't believe they're that stupid. Yeah, I really can't. I can't believe you're that ignorant to hang out with that guy and support him. But there are. I mean, what's that old saying? There's a sucker born every day, and you can't fix stupid? I'll close today with that. Guys, we'll be back tomorrow. We've got movies, myself and Andy. My son's not going to be with us, so I'm not sure what we're doing with NFL picks, but I'm sure we'll figure that out as well. But have a great night. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
We bring to the forefront America’s rising fentanyl crisis with expert insights from Dr. Robert Marbutt. Discover the origins and frightening realities of this synthetic opioid's deadly impact on communities across the nation. Additionally, explore the challenges Joe Biden faces in the political sphere regarding potential mass pardons for nonviolent drug offenders. This episode combines investigative journalism and personal stories, offering a comprehensive view on issues affecting millions.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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We learn more appointments, folks who are going to be leading the Trump 2-0, as I'm calling it, coming up. We're going to go through the list as we have it updated for you today. Also, House Speaker Mike Johnson invited Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to the Hill today. They're going to be talking with A group of senators from the GOP caucus and a group of House members about their next steps in this new agency they're going to be overseeing called DOES, where they're going to be weeding out some of the government regulations and cutting expenses. This is one of the ones that's going to be exciting to watch. Charlemagne Tha God and Whoopi Goldberg classed on The View yesterday. With the radio talk show host just asking, Whoopi, can you not admit it when the Democrats make a mistake, when they're wrong? Evidently, she can't. Also, new details in the shocking shooting yesterday in downtown Manhattan where a business person, the CEO of a financial services company, was gunned down right in plain day in front of his hotel room. We have those details for you as well. And who's next on Joe Biden's pardon list? There's speculation now that the president may issue pardons to a list of people. Could be thousands of people if some of the progressive Democrats have their way before Joe Biden leaves the White House. We're going to jump into that for you today as well. 800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation today. You can call. Tracy will queue you up, and we'll talk as time permits. You can also send me a quick message on the MyPillow text line, 800-655-6453. Love your messages. You can email me directly. It's real easy, joey at joeyhudson.com. Regardless of how you do so, I do hope you'll join in today. So more details on this shocking story. It was a slaughter, an assassination of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson. We reported on this when it was breaking the other morning. And police have released a photo of the suspect. They also released some security video footage from a camera nearby. And you see this man, Brian Thompson, he's 50 years old. You see him walking down the sidewalk in front of his hotel, and this hooded guy with a backpack on just kind of walk into the frame, pull out his gun. He shoots him in the back. You see Mr. Thompson walking. turning and then falling to the ground, and the guy continues to shoot. Not quite sure yet. Police haven't said how many rounds, but it looked to me like at least six or eight rounds. They are saying that they recovered, of course, some of the shells and that there's a possible message. It appears to include the words deny, depose, and defend that was engraved on some of the casings that they found on the ground and a couple of live rounds that was found, too. The words are strikingly similar, according to reports, to a 2010 book condemning the insurance business in which Thompson is one of the most powerful leaders, of course. Delay, Deny, Defend, two of the three words seemingly left is subtitled, Why Insurance Companies Don't Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It. We don't know if it has any meaning or not, but it is kind of odd that there would be messages, words engraved on these shells. We'll give you more details on this. There is a $10,000 reward for information. They have a pretty clear photo of this guy. And it's just amazing. This is another example of how there are video cameras everywhere you go now. And very quickly, they were able to release video following him almost every step of the way. He got on one of the rental bikes in New York City. They have bikes just about every block. He got on their city bikes, E-City bikes. And he got on one of the bikes and rode it up a few blocks and went into Central Park, and that's when they lost him, when he got into the park. So a $10,000 reward for information, and I've got a feeling that they'll catch this guy probably sooner than later, and we'll know exactly what's going on with that. More big announcements coming out of the park. President-elect Trump's administration, Trump 2-0 is really starting to shape up with some proven fighters. What I love about it, successful business people, people who have actually run businesses, people who have signed the front of the check, as we say, rather than the back of the check. And I think we're getting off to a great start here. Of course, some of these have to be confirmed, but I think that the GOP caucus and the U.S. Senate, they're ready for that. If there's going to be some fights, and there probably will be a battle on a few of them, I think overall we're going to be in good shape. Coming up, I'm going to go through a couple of the big announcements yesterday and some of the agencies and why they're important and why you're going to like it, too. And we're going to dive into this idea, too, of pardons by Joe Biden and how many more pardons he may offer. You're not going to like some of the ideas that are being floated. I'm Joey Hudson in for Mike.
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Thank you so very much for having me, and most importantly, thanks for caring about the fentanyl crisis.
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Sure thing. I mean, this is a huge thing, and to read that, the fact that from ages 18 to 45 are young people, this is the leading cause of death, that is just troubling. Talk with us. The obvious question is, how did it get this far out of hand so quickly?
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Well, there are probably two quick answers to that. One is that the current administration just was asleep at the switch the last four years. When it started to blow up, they just weren't prepared. They didn't know how to handle China. They didn't know how to handle the Mexican cartels. And now we're starting to see the biker gangs come out of Canada, and they weren't even aware of it, basically. So that's sort of the last three or four years of the problem. The genesis of the current fentanyl crisis goes back to Purdue Pharma, where it got hundreds of thousands of people addicted, million people on prescription. And we all know the story about how all the lawsuits that shut it down, but you had all these people addicted. And there was no plan for what do you do when they're addicted, no plan to get off. And most of them were addicted through medical surgeries. And the insidious nature of the Mexican cartels with China said, we'll fill this void. We have millions of people already using synthetic opioids, hundreds of thousands that are addicted. So we can come in and fill the void. So in essence, the Mexican cartels are a direct extension of Purdue Pharma in terms of the supply chain.
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On our guest line today, Dr. Robert Marbutt, he's one of the producers on Fentanyl Death Incorporated. It's available now on an exclusive pre-release basis. You can go to SalemNow.com, SalemNow.com, click on the Salem Now films and watch it now. So tell me, I don't understand completely why fentanyl is so much more lethal, so much more dangerous than some of the other drugs on the streets.
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Well, it starts because we have a lot of drugs that have gone from the sort of the organic, if you will, organic opioids. And so then it jumped to the synthetic in the laboratory. So doing that jump made it more powerful. So that's to start with. The second thing that makes it so dangerous is you can't smell it. You can't taste it. So you don't know what's there. You don't know the potency. You don't know how much is in it. So it's already very powerful and you can't detect it unless you're doing a lab test. And then the, just the power of addiction, This is the most addictive drug that mankind has ever made worldwide. We've never seen anything like this. And so, so many people are drawn to that in addiction. And that's why, again, Purdue Pharma getting so many people started on the drug in the first place, and then having the supply chain that the Mexican cartels did, It was just a combination, like a perfect bad storm all coming together.
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Yeah. Dr. Robert Marbert, I appreciate your work on this. Again, you can see Fentanyl Death Incorporated. Go to SalemNow.com, Salem Now Films, and just watch this now. Doctor, appreciate your time today.
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Thank you very much, and encourage any, if you're a parent, a child, or a policymaker, it'd be a great movie to see.
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You must see this. Thank you, sir. Coming up next, we've got a lot of calls and a lot of text messages that we're going to be going through, a lot to break down on this busy, busy day on the Mike Gallagher Show. Charlene, the God, and Whoopi Goldberg, they clashed over Joe Biden's pardon on The View. It got a little dicey there with the radio talk show host asking, Whoopi, can you not admit it when Democrats are wrong? That and much more. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike Gallagher.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studio, sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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Welcome in on this busy day. Glad to have you join me. 1-800-655-MIKE. 1-800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. You can send me a quick text on the MyPillow text line. Your calls are welcome. Tracy will queue you up. We'll talk as time permits. And, of course, emails are welcome directly. joey at joeyhudson.com. New details on the shocking target killing. of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Midtown Manhattan. Police have released a photo of the suspect, seen moments before the shooting, inside of a Starbucks just literally around the corner. This is an example of how video cameras, surveillance cameras, are everywhere these days. It is amazing how... how authorities in New York have been able to track this guy from the time he was literally just before the shooting till he fled after gunning this guy down. The suspect is described as a male wearing a hooded jacket. He was captured on multiple surveillance footage cameras standing at the Starbucks counter on West 56th Street and 6th Avenue. I literally was there this past week. When Peg and I were up with Mike for Thanksgiving in New York City, we walked right by there. It's a busy area of the city. And you can see in the video that was released, and it's too graphic for me to share with you, this guy comes out of nowhere, walks up behind Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, and just literally guns him down. He shoots him in the back. Mr. Thompson, when the first bullet hits, you can see he kind of turns, starts to go to his feet, and the guy just keeps standing over him shooting. It's horrific to see that something like this could happen. Police are confirming that it was no random act. They believe that this was intentional. I mean, it looked like a professional job to me. This guy just pulled his gun out and started shooting. Then he just casually walked across the street. got on an E-City bike, which those are rentals that are spread throughout Manhattan and New York City. You can rent one. He hopped on it and started going uptown, went into Central Park where he disappeared, was no longer being able to be seen on any surveillance cameras there. There is a $10,000 reward for information on this. His wife, Paulette Thompson, revealed that her husband had been receiving threats related to his leading the nation's largest private health care insurer. And one other detail that has been released today, too, is that police say that there was an inscription engraved on the casings. We're not quite sure what it means, but it seems to be a message saying, from the killer to this family and to this company. So more details and a citywide search for this killer in Manhattan. The shameless pardoning of his son on Sunday night has everyone speculating what other pardons Joe Biden may do before he leaves the White House. Politico wrote last night, 11 days before President Biden shocked DC by pardoning his son Hunter, a group of lawmakers and advocates gathered outside the Capitol building to urge Biden to grant a different set of clemencies. Representatives Ilhar Omar, Ariana Presley, and a handful of others urged the president to use his power to pardon or grant clemency to thousands of people serving time in federal prison for convictions related to nonviolent marijuana use, crack cocaine, and more. Omar said at a news conference, we join a growing chorus of voices calling on President Biden to exercise one of the most profound powers of the presidential office, the power of clemency. She and other Democrat progressives gathered in front of the Capitol, this was a couple of weeks ago, asking for the president to literally pardon thousands. In cut number nine, you'll hear Omar and others talk about how the president needs to do this before he leaves the White House.
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Today, we join a growing chorus of voices calling on President Biden to exercise on one of the most profound powers of the presidential office, the power of clemency. Clemency represents a critical opportunity to correct a longstanding injustices recognize human potential for redemption, and acknowledge that our legal system has often been more punitive than restorative. The United States represents just 5% of the world's population, yet we hold more than 20% of the global prison population. Over 1.9 million individuals are currently incarcerated with a disproportionate impact on communities of color. Black men are incarcerated at more than five times the rate of white men, a legacy of systematic inequalities that have persisted for generations.
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How do you feel about this? So if you listen to Ilhan Omar, Ilhan Omar, It leads you to think that she just wants Biden to turn them loose because of the color of their skin or maybe the law that they broke wasn't that big of a deal. Now, my thought on that is if you break the law, a jury of your peers have found you guilty, a judge has sentenced you, the president shouldn't turn you loose. Ilhan Omar thinks that thousands should be given clemency, should be turned loose. We're not quite sure where this is headed. If you listen to Karine Jean-Pierre on Monday when she was trying to defend Biden's sudden pardon of his son, Some of the things that she said would lead you to think that there are going to be more coming. She said Americans could expect more announcements, more pardons, clemency at the end of this term. But the administration hasn't said how many yet. More than 3,000 people, advocates say, remain in federal prison for marijuana-related crimes. And it seems that the focus is on people who are in jail because of their marijuana use. Popular Democracy is one of the advocacy organizations involved in the November 20th press conference that day. It says that there are over 10,000 pending clemency petitions they believe the president should pardon or commute, all of these involving marijuana use. The chorus of Capitol Hill voices, this is Politico writing, pushing for these commutations also includes Senator Elizabeth Warren. She said President Biden should expand clemency for people with marijuana-related convictions. There's more the administration can do before the end of the term to reform our system and right these wrongs. On that assumption, you're assuming that it was wrong that someone went to jail for breaking the law that involved marijuana. Now, I know this is a touchy subject at times. It surprises me sometimes of some of my conservative friends who think that marijuana should be legal. And it is in a number of areas. That's one of the things that I have the hardest time adjusting to. When we were in New York this past weekend, walking down the street and smelling marijuana. When I have been in Vegas in the past, same thing. I just can't wrap my head around the idea that it's okay for people to be smoking dope in a public area, or anywhere for that matter, when it's illegal in most of the country. But what do I know? 800-655-6453. What do you think about Joe Biden maybe pardoning thousands and thousands of marijuana users who are in prison right now? You have a problem with that? Are you okay with that? Comments are welcome on the MyPillow text line, 1-800-655-6453. Email is welcome, joey at joeyhudson.com. I'm Joey, in for Mike today.
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Hey, Joey. How are you?
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I'm wonderful. Hope you are, Mark.
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So you were talking earlier before the break about... the pardons for marijuana convictions. And I just wanted to say for me, my thoughts on it would be if somebody's been dealing drugs or, you know, got arrested or convicted for a, you know, a large amount of drugs, then no, I don't think that they should be relieved of their responsibility to pay back society. But if it's something, you know, it's, $20 worth of pot in a kid's pocket, then I can't see that being something that they should sit in prison for.
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Yeah. And Mark, and I honestly, I don't know for sure, but do you think that there are people in prison just for that? Some of my law enforcement friends, they always tell me when this subject comes up that most people aren't in jail just because they were smoking pot, but they were smoking pot when they committed other crimes.
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You would think so. I think it probably depends on where they were arrested. There's some states where they'd probably be extremely lenient for a little bit of pot, but I think there's other places where it would be a bigger crime than other places. Sure.
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Well, and one other quick question for you, Mark, and I appreciate your phone call today. Let's put that aside for a minute. Do you think that it's right, though, for Joe Biden to just issue mass pardons for literally thousands and thousands of people? No.
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I don't think that in any case for any crime to just issue a blanket pardon, it all depends on each individual case. And the details of that. So no matter what, uh, I don't think that he should issue a blanket pardon for everybody now.
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Yeah. And that's what the progressives were asking him to do. Basically, you know, they're, they, they've identified tens of thousands of people who are in prison who have that. Uh, one of the charges is marijuana use and they're wanting him to just give a blanket pardon that would cover them. And that's just, uh, that that's not right. Appreciate your phone call, Mark. Uh, Merry Christmas to you. Uh, 1-800-655-6453. One line open for you. I'd love to hear from you. Your text messages on the MyPillow text line are welcome as well. 800-655-6453. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike Gallagher today. Hope you'll join the conversation.
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Join Dana as she dives into another thrilling episode filled with the bizarre antics of the infamous Florida Man. This time, the peculiar tale involves saws and vehicular disputes. Alongside this, Dana tackles the contentious debate around THC regulation in Texas, scrutinizing the implications of big government's decisions on personal freedoms.
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Jeez, straws, axes. So, this Florida Man, a saw-swinging Florida Man, struck a guy during a wrong-way driving argument. Boy, oh boy. Yeah. Yeah. So this Fort Myers Lee County Sheriff's Office, an argument over a wrong way driving, landed one man in jail and another left with life, non-life-threatening injuries. Rolando Ruiz Alonzo. Too many names, Rolando. He was the primary aggressor in the altercation. And according to police, the old dude began swinging a... Was it a saw or not? A saw-like tool toward a victim as the argument escalated and the victim was struck. And then he also used a piece of ceramic pottery as a weapon. He was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. I guess, I mean, he was driving the wrong way and got called out. I don't know. But good heavens, like there's... How many people have saws and machetes there? It's like people just go to their trucks and get them. Here's my machete. Okay. Here's my saw. A Florida man who was accused of murder was captured after TikTok revealed his whereabouts. People overshare. He shot and killed his girlfriend in front of her two children while they were at a cemetery of all places. St. Petersburg police were searching for him for three and a half years. No success. And then a video of a local news story was shared on TikTok. He was in Mexico and it showed him in Mexico and they were able to get him. So now he's been charged with first degree murder and two counts of child abuse. They just happened to get him. So, wow, I just happened to see him in the background of this news story. He was in Mexico. Not really hiding out too well, I guess. A few, I got to tell you, and we've been watching all of this stuff as it pertains to the, we were talking about Doge a little bit ago and a lot of these cabinet picks, et cetera, et cetera. And I saw this story last night, and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it. And I got aggravated. I always get mad at people who think that politics began the day that they signed up for an X account. Because some of us have been out here busting our edible snakes for quite some time, pushing it back against rhinoism, right? And you always get these drive-bys who are like, oh, I can't believe people think that Republicans are... You know, like the party of small government or whatever. And I'm like, you know, broad first off, you know, drop the drunk bridesmaid act. I get that you, you know, when you created your ex account, you think that all politics began that the day that you became self-aware. But some of us have been out here doing the heavy lifting while you could sit here and go and get your overfilled face done and your ratty ass extensions. And you could try to, like, talk platitudes about it on X. Stop. I get so aggravated over this stuff. Stop it. A lot of people out there have been doing the heavy lifting. A lot of you out there have been doing the heavy lifting, pushing back, calling your lawmakers, holding everybody accountable. And we're not going to be judged by people who just opened a drive by account and all of a sudden went away and like, you know, they're the generals of the movement. Stop it. We're not doing it. And I specifically got aggravated over this one post that I saw from Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas. So he he posted this. Did you see this, King? This is going to be up your alley. It's in Slack. He said it's a major legislative initiative to ban all THC. Thousands of stores have opened to sell all types of dangerous products with unlimited THC. And these stores even target your children is what he's saying. Let me read it first off. Oh, don't roll your eyes. I don't care if you're I'm not Tommy Chong. OK, I'm no Tommy Chong, but I know government overreach when I see it. That's what this is about. Today, it's about whatever the hell THC. Tomorrow, it's guns. You don't know. So he had this, he wants to ban all THC. Thousands of stores have opened to sell all types of dangerous products. What? Wait, there's more. He's talking about This representative, Tracy King, this bill, blah, blah, blah. Part of the bill allowed for the commercialization of hemp, which might include unremovable, non-intoxicating trace amounts of Delta 9 THC. Quote, dangerously, retailers exploited the agriculture law to sell life-threatening, unregulated forms of THC to the public and made them easily accessible. They sold them to adults and they targeted Texas children, exposed them to dangerous levels of THC. I mean, they keep saying the word dangerous. And then they use the word life-threatening levels in another sentence. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Okay. Again, I'm no Tommy Chong here. But... I'm pretty sure that you would have to have all the THC on Earth in order for it to be considered dangerous. Am I correct? I was talking to some of my more pot-minded associates about this. So, yes, maybe we know people in California. I don't partake in any of this. But they get so into the, like, what am I thinking of? The artisanal marijuana. It is hysterical. How it is not a reality show, I do not know. If you've ever tried to see hippies turn into bougie entrepreneurs, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. God love it. But anyway, Kane, don't they include a tiny amount? I mean, it's not like they're tripping acid.
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Yeah, no, it's not unlimited. It's definitely limited. There's only so much.
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I mean, you can regulate it. From what I understand, it's already Texas law that it's regulated.
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It is regulated.
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So that's a lie. Dan Patrick published a lie.
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He's talking about.
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I'm so surprised.
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He's talking about the THC that they've in the lab removed a molecule so that it isn't. the illegal THC-9 on the federal level. So he's talking about the THCs that have had the molecules removed so that they're a different THC from the THC-9, and he's saying that those are dangerous. So it's a little bit different because this is sort of a laboratory thing that's created for these vapes and the consumption for people. So I don't know. He's technically not lying, though.
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I don't want to sound like Joe Rogan talking about this stuff. And that's not an insult. But I'm just not a pot person. I'm not. I'm not. But I just am like, this is big government. This is big government.
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Oh, without a doubt it is. Oh, without a doubt. It absolutely is.
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So the same government that was like, y'all better get these shots, now is like, no, you can't have gummies. Right? Exactly. Same people, right? You're right. And we are to listen to them. Why?
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I can't sell you on that.
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No means no, Texas government.
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It's not what AOC says.
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I mean, okay, because you guys think it's funny that I know so little about football. Wait until you hear me talk about marijuana. This is Kane's other favorite. Because what did I tell you yesterday? How did I say it yesterday? I was like, well, doesn't THC, doesn't that just make you like fat because of munchies and suspicious? Yeah, it was suspicious and fat?
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That's what you said.
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Yeah, doesn't it just make you suspicious and fat?
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Yeah. I'm like, what? What do you mean? Paranoid? Yes. And get the munchies?
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Yes. Because isn't that like the common thing? It's like you're always paranoid. And so there are a couple of people I know who actually work in this industry, like I was saying. And both of them are veterans. And one of them we just met, but we know somebody that does this. It's like a lot of veterans use it, especially to help manage PTSD, because they don't want to be hooked on big pharma stuff. They don't want to have to take like these, you know, psychotropic drugs and all of this. And they just need, you know, and it helps them to relax at night or whatever. I don't have any problem with that. I don't know why anybody, mind your business. I mean, for crying out loud, it's a gummy. And they put, from what I understand, like a tiny percentage of whatever in it. It's not like people are going out there, you know, tripping beans and acting like Beto O'Rourke, breaking and entering and drunk driving. Nobody's doing that.
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I know, and it's this kind of work by the government that actually has us putting our names on lists when we want to get pseudofed for a nose running or something. That's what big government, this is what will end up happening.
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Someone was saying that it was similar to taking melatonin. I was reading that in the comments. I take like 10 milligrams. Sometimes I'll take 20 of melatonin. I'm actually trying to take less because I get so groggy. I'm so groggy in the morning. But I take 10 milligrams of melatonin a night. I'm definitely not out there being dangerous on 10 milligrams of melatonin. If what I have been told and what I've read, that it is similar in terms of relaxing it, which is why a lot of veterans take it and they take it at night.
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Do you get suspicious in fat?
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No, I don't. I don't get suspicious in fat. Because it doesn't have the pot in it. It's just melatonin, like the fast-dissolve melatonin tablet. I'm just saying, why is this an issue that they're focusing on in Texas? No, I get that people can walk and chew gum at the same time. But out of nowhere, let's go after the THC. And from what I'm understanding, it's a tiny... I don't want the government involved in anything else. No, Texas should be shrinking government, not expanding it. This is just big government. And I don't care if you're a pot person or not. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. I mean, this is a variable. What have I always told you? In all of these instances, guns are a variable. Pot is a variable. Look at all of this. It's the same formula. They just switch out the variables. That's it. That's it.
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I wonder if on a federal level the fact that they're talking about changing the schedule of it.
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I think they're trying to nationalize all regulation of it to create an industry for themselves that they can monopolize.
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I wonder if this is just Texas' response to that potential. I have no idea, though.
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I don't think so. That's not how I look at it. I mean, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I mean, I like being correct on issues. I'm not, you know, I'm not a petty partisan. But to me, from when I was reading this, like, why do you need to ban it? They're not trying to... They just want to ban everything. Why do you need to ban it? And sorry, they're not targeting the kids. They're not. That sounds like a gun grabber argument. Oh, you're marketing these guns to kids. No one is selling... THC to kids. Have you seen these stores? No offense to anyone, but I'm going to be very honest. Okay. You know what do they look like? Do you want to, you know what they look like? They look like, oh gosh, you're going to, they look like white trash boomer places. I'm sorry, but they do. It's like, they're so uncool looking. They are so uncool. They're uncool. Kids don't want to go to an uncool place. It's not like they're sticking Barney out front or whatever the hell furry. They're not sticking that stuff out front. You know, come on, stop it. Stop it. I'm not making nobody get mad because I'll print out your email and I will roll over it with my mini segue that I got six years ago on Amazon for Mother's Day and then I'll take it to the range and shoot Buckeye through it or Birdshot through it. So stop it. But you know what I mean? They look like adult places. It doesn't look cool. They don't look cool. Kids are not going to go to a place that doesn't look cool. I seriously take issue with the whole marketing to the kids thing. That's what big government always says with stuff that it wants to ban. Oh, my gosh. It's going after the kids. Wait, the same government that's going after the kids trying to cut their genitals off and flip their genders? The very same. Against the wishes of their parents. Suddenly this government's all worried about the kids. Oh, what? The same government that lost hundreds of thousands of kids that it that it allowed to come across the border illegally. Suddenly that same government. Oh, my goodness. We can't have these cannabis stores targeting the kids. Just can't have a cane. Can't have these cannabis stores. I've seen one after the kids.
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No, I've seen the ingredients list on like Fruit Loops. They're allowing some pretty poisonous stuff. Our kids eat it right in front of the TV.
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They literally use a bird to advertise it to the kids. Yes, directly to the kids. Come eat our cancer cereal, kids. It's full of cancer. It is.
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Yeah, I'm not really going to pay attention to the government. So out of all the... And you know what? Lieutenant Governor Patrick has come on the show before. Can we have... Let's bring him on again to talk about that. He's going to be like, oh my gosh. We get along with him so well, even when he's so wrong. We're so nice because he's very genteel. But I'm just like the same guy. Is anybody else fed up with the government telling you what you can and can't do, especially after, I don't know, the whole Wu flu drama? Yeah. So it seems like I'm just done with it. The same government that was doing all this stuff. That was shilling out books about oral sex to your kids in elementary school? The same government. Oh, we don't like these. These stores are targeting the kids. No, they're not. You are. Sup? Thank you so much for having me. designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or any other effective medications, they have it all. And you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days. Medications start as low as $3 per capsule, making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank. No insurance needed. You can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly. Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Oh, man. I just remembered it's time to watch Nightmare Before Christmas. Deadly Nightshade. Movie actress dies at a Mexican spiritual retreat after consuming deadly monkey frog potion. What gave you the idea that this might be deadly? Anything that's a monkey frog potion already sounds like it's going to be deadly. Why do people do this? So it's I don't think you need to say movie actress, but they did this strange potion. They said dates back to the Inca period. And oh, it's meant to cause uncontrollable diarrhea and vomiting for consumers, which supposedly acts as a cleanse. So Marcella Rodriguez, she apparently decided that she was going to do this and it didn't work out well for her. It's 40 times stronger than morphine. Oh, my gosh. Why? Who would who's like, you know, well, you're going to basically leak out of everything to death. That's how it's going to work for you. Who wants to go? OK, let's do that. No, it was in Durango, northern Mexico. I mean, it literally took hours to kill her. They're doing an autopsy, but pretty much have an idea of how that happened. It's going to say that's horrible. An officer uses a child. An officer uses a child's bicycle chasing down a felony suspect. And there's body cam footage and it's actually hysterical. He was not near a squad car. He used a little kid's bicycle to go after the felon. He commandeered a kid's bike to continue the pursuit, said the department in its paperwork. And it was a bright lime green bike, too, which is funny. They got him. He got him. He caught the suspect, charged him with felony theft. The guy also had three other outstanding warrants. And they said the suspect might have had a scooter, but Officer Tarr had determination and a kid's bike. Yeah, he thought he was going to get away on a motorized scooter, but it wasn't going to happen. Not with Officer Tarr. He was on it. I mean, and kudos to the kid who let him take the bike. Juan's showing you the footage right now. He grabs the kid's bike, and he's like, here we go. Here we go. We're going after him. I mean, this actually makes me want to now ride a bicycle. Right? Remember how fun this was back in the day? This was fun. By the way, this is what Peloton should have had. Peloton should have had, like, revisiting your childhood by riding your, instead of the stupid stuff that they had. They favored it. Yeah, going through the neighborhood. Let's see here. Oh, the worst time to shoplift. Here's an idea. If you're shopping with a cop, don't steal while you're doing it. And they did this as a Walmart event, their annual shop with a cop. And someone who was shopping with a cop decided to steal from the Walmart. Didn't work out well for him. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at Caltech, the P15. It stands for 15 pews. It's the lightest. thinnest, most easily concealable 9mm double stack mag that's on the market. And there's nothing else that comes close. They have two versions, metal and polymer. Metal frame version has the really gorgeous wood panel. It has these wood grain panels that I just think give it a total... I was actually having a debate with a friend about what genre of James Bond. I say the Sean Connery like 60s, 70s, sort of 70s, you know, maybe. James Bond. It's a great looking gun. The polymer version, gator grip texture. It comes with two standard capacity magazines. One's a 15 round minimal pinky extension. The other is a flush fit double stack mag that holds 12 rounds as well. Tritium fiber optic front sight, fiber optic front sight. You get a fully adjustable fiber optic two dot rear. A lifetime warranty, super compact, great for concealed carry self-defense, whether you're a newbie or an old pro at it. It's more dependable, yet game-changing innovation from the people who literally created the micro-compact pistol category. Innovation, performance, Kel-Tec. Learn more at Kel-TecWeapons.com. That's K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you. I want to play this video, Cain. It's in Slack, but it's very juvenile. So you guys remember Eric Fart's, I mean, Swalwell. verbal typo yeah it's a verbal typo it was completely an innocent error i need to i need to discuss this video just because it's funny and i need a palate cleanser and also wow it's almost friday i mean you know it is it's you know like i said next week everybody's gonna be drunk on eggnog half of you are gonna be paying attention So let me get your attention. This is Zoe Lofgren. She's a Democrat, of course. What is up with people from California and their personal gas issues? I don't get it. She just let her rip tater chip right there on CNN. Go ahead. Roll tape. Watch her eyes.
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That power of the purse is with the legislative branch, not the president.
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And I do want to ask you, because of your work on the January 6th committee.
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Yeah, you need a wipe after that. Dana, you're juvenile. I am. Hi. Did we meet just now? Did we? That's the smartest thing that was said on CNN all week, believe it or not. Smartest thing. Crazy, right? That fart is going to get its own contributorship. It's going to happen. Zoe Lofgren's fart. CNN contributor.
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It'll be Toobin and Tootin. I can see it now. It'll be like, you know, the big show.
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It can host a show with, yeah, Jeffrey Toobin. Right. Toobin can host it with, hosted by Jeffrey Toobin and Zoe Lofgren's fart. Yeah, there you go right there. I mean, it is. I know. I totally know that it's juvenile, and I love it all the same. Love it all the same. And notice Jim Acosta's face. Jim Acosta has this thing where he looks at his monitor. So if you're watching the simulcast, I'm looking right at the camera. I don't have a teleprompter. I have a giant screen in front of me that I refer to for notes or if I'm reading, quoting something for you. And then I have a monitor that shows me the program right below it. So you can't really see unless you kind of can. If I'm looking right at the camera, if I'm looking at the monitor for some reason, it's like CNN's monitors are five feet under the camera. I don't get it because he's not looking at the camera. He's looking all the way down at the monitor. So when you're the viewer and you're watching, even when he's only when he's, unless he's reading the prompter, Does he look at the camera? He doesn't look at it unless he's reading the prompter. He's always like this. Always. If you go find clips of Jim Acosta, this dumbass cannot look at the camera to save his life. He's constantly looking down at the monitor. And I'm like, dude, bro, look at the camera. But then it then it makes me wonder, well, how low are those monitors? Like, look at where his eyes are. His eyes are like all the way. I mean, his whole head's turned down. How far away from the camera? The monitor should be right underneath it to where there's not really. And the monitors just, you know, so you can kind of see, you know, take a glimpse for like show elements. Like sometimes I'll look at it if we're doing like a side by side or something to make sure because I move so much that I'm not aggravating one. And I'm like in the middle of the shot because one is obsessed with symmetry. Because he's good at his job. That's what he does. He's like, everything's got to be symmetrical. Everything's got to be in its place. So I try to help out by not going everywhere. So I'll refer to the monitor. He always stares at it. And then I noticed when he's questioning people. Remember when he was in the White House press corps? Because I was looking at some of these videos on break. He doesn't look at people in the face when he's asking them a question. I've noticed this. Even when, and one of the videos that came up were that time that he grabbed that woman's arm when he was questioning Trump, remember? And they were having a very, he was having a very heated Q&A. It was a White House press avail. And even then he was not, he would not look at anybody in the face. It's weird. He's a weird cat. He's a weird dude. I don't know. I mean, maybe Zoe Loughran's fart is going to take over a show because, I mean, at least that looks right in the face. Just saying.
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Can we hear it again, please?
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Steve is obsessed with us. I only heard it once. Steve was the one who was like, watch your eyes. I only heard it once. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead.
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That power of the purse is with the legislative branch, not the president.
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And I do want to ask you because of your work on the January 6th committee.
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That almost sounded like a video game effect. Right? Right? Trying to think what that reminded me of. What video game sound does that remind me of something? Yeah, I don't know. So I thought that was the smartest thing that's been said on CNN.
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Look at that on a multi-faceted approach of everything that's wrong with the system that we're facing. One, look at the photo that they used to show the victims. It seemed like it was a young, innocent child who was brutally murdered. And it gave that impression. When you looked at the photo that was being used, it wanted to set up in the minds of people that we were dealing with a young innocent child that, you know, just Michael Jackson intimidator that, you know, was just brutally assaulted. Then you look at the complete failure of our mental health system, a complete failure from the days of closing psychiatric wards and having those who needed help just turned over into the street without giving any safety net to accept them. Parents reach out to me all the time and say, I'm watching my child go down or my loved one, my family. And we're going down this serious decline. What do we do? a system where you brought people into hospitals, gave them medicine for one day, and sent them back. The young man, in this case, was going within our system, throughout the revolving door of our system.
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You know, what he's saying isn't wrong, but it's not what the media wants to promote. And what he's saying, and that's Eric Adams, by the way. The mayor of New York City. Because and this is about this Daniel Penny case, which I don't know if we're going to have a verdict today or not. And, yeah, we're supposed to, but it's day three now. I'm like, what's the holdup? Like, who's the juror that's like, oh, I don't know if he's innocent. I mean, the guy's innocent. I mean, the stupid stuff that they had and the way that they portrayed Jordan Ely. And, of course, the parents are all in it now. I don't know if we're going to talk about all that. I don't know if you've seen any of it. The parents are all involved in it. All of a sudden, the parents, total deadbeats. I mean, they've been deadbeats. They're complete deadbeats. They now are saying that they want to sue because they are blaming Daniel Penny for Jordan Neely's death. And they're saying that they want to sue over it. And the dad came out and the mom came out. And the problem is that they are deadbeats. The dad was, I mean, the dad gave him up at birth. They're deadbeats. And then they come out because they smell a grift. They smell the opportunity for money. They didn't care enough. They didn't value his life enough when he was alive. But now that he's dead and they can make some sweet cash off it, now they care. His parents are absolute pieces of excrement. I think, Daniel, I think that Jordan Neely's parents, they raised a thug. I think his parents are thugs. I think that they raised a thug. I think that they raised a guy who's trying to blame being crazy for just being a murderous jackass who punches women and tries to attack mothers with their newborn babies, tries to kidnap seven-year-olds, try to shove people on the tracks. And That's stuff that the media didn't want to tell you about, by the way. We've talked about it on this program. The media didn't want to tell you about it. And this, I mean, it's sad because, you know, he chose to live his life a certain way and he chose to go out a certain way. And I'm sorry, I only give so much, I only extend so much to people who are like, oh, I just didn't know I was murdering people. I'm crazy. No, you know. I hate this whole, well, let's just put it in the crazy bin. Because I think it excuses so much just willful bad behavior. The choice of doing evil. That's what I think it does. Welcome to the program, actually. Dana Lash here with you. We're at the top of this first hour. Yes, I'm still under the weather. Everybody comments. I appreciate the nice things that you've said. People are like, oh, I can tell you sound. But you're sounding stronger. Thank you for the encouragement. I don't get super sick that often. Man, this one was a doozy. So I sound tougher, don't I? Listen to how tough I sound. Listen, I'm going to get back to the meat and potatoes in a bit. Wouldn't you rather me be like, all right, it's time for the radio program. But it doesn't work, though, because you can see me and I don't sound.
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You think people want that?
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I don't know. I would love it. I'd be like, this person sounds like a hard ass. I'm listening to this show. That's me, right? Am I the only one who does that?
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I don't think that's how it works.
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But I think it does. No?
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No.
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Okay. Anyway, so if I all of a sudden get into a sneezing fit, just roll with it. Let's pretend it didn't happen, right? Let's just pretend like I'm your drunk relative at the Christmas Thanksgiving table, whatever. Just roll with it. All right, so this Daniel Penny case is one that we're watching for a number of reasons. Obviously, because it's a travesty, number one. But number two, the other reason that... were watching it is because of what this means for self-defense. Do you remember how I've told you so many times that a lot of these instances of self-defense have nothing to do with guns? This is a case of self-defense that has nothing to do with guns. In fact, I think it further That underscores the point that I've been trying to make in that they're not coming after your firearms. That's just the doorway. They're trying to get people to agree with them on guns so that they can go after something else. They want to go after your ability to defend yourself. They want to go after people who dare defend the innocent because this is a system that they have, this system of lawlessness and disorder. They get paid off of the system. So the... Really, the crux of the issue that's being determined here is whether or not you have the ability and the right to defend yourself or whether or not someone else has the ability or right or whether they're allowed to to defend you or themselves. So it's a big deal. And that's the other part of this, which makes it just makes it sad. And how this case comes out, I don't know. I mean, you know, you've had like a ridiculous prosecutor. You've had, I mean, the way that the media has written about this. You had witnesses. I told you guys this in the weeks after Penny's case. There was a woman who, actually not one, there were three women. One was a younger woman. She was a... younger woman with a child in a stroller uh and that she was on the platform there was an older woman and then there was a another like middle-aged woman who was kind of single who was single and going to work and all three of those women told investigators and the new york post actually had the interview with the older woman they told investigators and they also told the press that they felt So much better that Daniel Penny had stepped in because they were terrified for their lives. And the older woman even remarked that Jordan Neely at the time was moving aggressively towards the woman and her baby. I'm going to tell you what, I'm on a subway platform and you're trying to threaten me and my baby. I will flay you. I will flay you like the damn Middle Ages on that platform. I am so tired of this nonsense. Women with their babies should not have to cower in fear because of unchecked. You want to talk about toxic, quote unquote, masculinity? Jordan Neely was toxic, quote unquote, masculine. That man wasn't even masculine. That wasn't even masculinity. He was toxic. That is toxicity. Not Daniel Penny. Daniel Penny is chivalry. That is gallantry. That is a man stepping up and he's protecting the people that he sees being put in danger. Is it the responsibility of the mom trying to protect and shield her baby? from this violent, murderous thug? Is it her responsibility to know his entire life story and to know that he, 10 years ago, he one time impersonated Michael Jackson, whatever the hell that matters? I mean, is it her job to know all of this stuff before she can make a decision? As to whether or not her life and the life of her child are valuable enough to be protected. For her to protect herself or for someone else to step in. Because that's what New York City is deciding right now. That's exactly what they're deciding. So, Jordan Neely is the toxicity. And that's how it, honestly, that's how it should be portrayed. But it's not. It's so sad. And these witnesses, they came out and they were telling the press and investigators, we're so glad that he stepped up. We are so glad. We're so grateful. And thank heavens, you know, he did because who knows what would have happened. Well, we kind of have an idea. And by that, I mean, we kind of know what he would have done because he's already did it. He punched an elderly woman in the face. And actually, at the time of his death, there was a warrant out for his arrest on that. He shattered the nose of an elderly woman. He punched her in the face on the subway platform. He tried shoving another woman onto the tracks of a subway platform. And that was just a few months earlier. I think what the year before is he was trying to... He was on video trying to take a seven-year-old. But you know, guys, he used to... How cutie patootie. He impersonated Michael Jackson 10 years ago. Don't forget there was the Reddit thread where they were warning other subway riders in New York City to specifically watch out for that platform and watch out for him. That is... That's, I mean, that's unbelievable. And Daniel Penny's the problem? The guy, the veteran with no record? Daniel Penny's the problem? New York City's gonna burn itself to the ground and they deserve it. I mean, that's, you know... So that's one of the cases that we're watching, one of the stories that we're watching today. And we'll see. Maybe we'll have a verdict. Maybe we will not. But that's what they're determining right now. Also... A couple of other things. This, let's see here. The ongoing battle for, I guess, some of the sec def stuff. Pete Hegseth is still fighting. I think it's kind of sad that his mom was dragged into it. But now everybody's there. People are sharpening their knives against Joni Ernst because they're saying that she's waging an aggressive battle to defeat his nomination. And everybody's going at Joni Ernst. One of the things you got to realize, and this is why I love not being in D.C. Every time I get an invite to go out to D.C., I'm like, no, not. I can't. Every one of these groups, including a lot of the conservative websites you read, if they don't have advertising on their website, you need to realize they're paid by somebody. If they're not selling ads and they're not selling subscriptions, they are paid by somebody. Conservative websites too. It's a business model. In fact, BuzzFeed was one of the ones to actually do that native advertising as it pertained to a media entity. They had their whole business model set up when they first launched to operate that way. And there are a lot of others that have followed and done the same. So any website, conservative or to the left, but people on the right tend to think that if you're on the right, then you don't do the same stuff, and they do. The reason I say this is because I notice that there are a lot of the websites who I know are in fact, and because I'm friends with a lot of the publishers and it's a distraction to have a fight about it, I know for a fact that they're paid by entities. I know God's honest truth. May lightning strike. They're paid by entities. They get money and then they use that as a way to push certain issues. And it, you know, in the beginning, it would be like, oh, well, it's oil and gas, which, you know, I love oil and gas. I don't care. Things like that. But now there's like different interparty issues where you have someone's group who wants to push someone for something. And they're they're going to like a lot of the influencers that you saw around the primary absolutely were a lot of the stuff that you saw with the amendments in Florida absolutely were. I'm seeing this, these same sites do this with Joni Ernst. And I'm not a big Joni Ernst fan. I don't have anything personally against her. I think she's kind of a moderate. But I just think it is very curious that these websites are now all coming together with the exact same headlines and the exact same stories. I don't like that. Let a candidate stand on their own merit. I don't want to see conservatives do the same BS that the left does. It's the folks over, it's new to the program, Burn a Gun. It's the non-firearm firearm. And Burn a Gun is a good option to have to diversify what you use for self-defense. And it's ideal for environments where guns are banned. I mean, think about it. I mean, there's, I would love to, I always tell people to carry. I have no problem using lethal force. But at the same time, because of the nature of my work, I sometimes have to go to places where I'm not allowed to by the property or the municipality to carry there. But, you know, I can have my burn a gun, my non-firearm firearm. No waiting periods, no background checks. 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So, the Vatican has unveiled the new Popemobile. I'm really disappointed in this. This is a pope for crying out loud. I mean, if I got to walk around in all the robes and everything, you best believe I'm going to be walking out in some, like, Warhammer 40K looking stuff. You know? He's got an all-white electric Mercedes. All-electric white Mercedes. This is... Am I being too picky? I mean, you're the Pope for crying out loud. 40K it up. Walk out and have like those things with the smelly, the potpourri in it. Waving in the front. Like walk out with all of it. Good night.
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Potpourri?
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It should look like a mobile processional. Not this. This looks like a mom's grocery getter. It's electric. Stop. Come on. You know, I mean, if there's anything that the Pope would be good at, it's pageantry. I am let down. Let down. Uh, let's see. Bill Maher said, I don't care. He says he might quit his HBO show after Trump. I don't care. He's a pansy. Uh, you, you know why I'm still mad at Bill Maher? Because Bill Maher, this, this like D list pervert who like once propositioned me an email and I was like, gross. I have an agent at, at UTA. Go talk to them. Uh, came out after Parkland and like accused me of trying to get a reality show with this guy that I've never met. And Bill Maher repeated the Stooges accusations. Maybe they were a part of the Epstein party club together. I don't know. Perverts stick together. And he repeated this guy's accusations on his show. So Bill Maher can go pound sand and all the people who try to kiss his ass for relevance. He can too. Oh, and the body roundness index is replacing the BMI. Some people say this is better. Stick with us. Our partners over at black rifle coffee. It is the best coffee that's out there. Everything else is swill. In fact, it's communist swill that they spit in a cup and then they ran it through a coffee maker. That's what you're getting if you're not getting Black Rifle coffee. So first off, veteran owned, veteran run, and they hire retired and active duty. And they've got so many different roasts. One of their big ones right now is the... Their freedom roast it's what the founders would have drink drank with their beer. Let's be honest over at King Street They would have drank this Every sip is a celebration of liberty and a tribute to those who fought for our nation You can save 20% with code Dana right now the freedom roast so smooth and full of flavor It's over at black rifle coffee comm while you're there check it out the freedom roast because it's available in ground whole bean and 12-count rounds you can also subscribe to black rifles coffee club and You get free shipping and automated orders right to your doorstep. That's so nice. And then you always have the convenience of having your favorite coffee on hand. And they're dedicated over at Black Rifle Coffee to their mission of supporting veterans and first responder causes. They also do that with their business. So check out everything they have to offer. The Coffee Club, the Whole Bean K-Cups, Ready to Drink, Apparel Kettles, Grinders, and so much more. Save 20% using Code Dana and get your freedom on with the Freedom Roast from BlackRifleCoffee.com. And whatever you decide, whatever roast you get, 20% off using Code Dana. Only at BlackRifleCoffee.com.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. And you can follow along on Rumble where we have the discussion, Substack, all that good stuff, Channel 347, DirecTV. So the Hegseth fight is still going. happening over the cabinet pick. Missing is Trump coming out going, I really want him to be confirmed. I'm just pointing this out because everybody's like talking a lot for Trump, except for Trump here. Am I wrong?
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Well, he did say yesterday to keep fighting. I don't know what. So that's way different.
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You know what I mean?
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You mean the actual words that I want him confirmed?
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Yeah. Why can't he just go out and be like, I want him confirmed. Confirm him now. Or stop picking at him or senators shut up. I mean, it's Trump for crying out loud. Don't you think that he's ever, when has he ever been like, oh, I don't know if I should say that. When has he ever been like that?
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No, but I mean, I know that I don't want to speak for anybody else, but I always look at when someone gets nominated, that's him wanting them confirmed.
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Yeah. But he needs to like, I think it's weird to me that he has not gone out and vocally backed up his pick more. I think. I mean, saying that, you know, yeah, keep fighting. That's okay. He said that to like a million other people. That's like a generic run of the mill. This doesn't cost me anything to say. It costs him more to say, I am standing behind my nominee. That's a big difference. I'm just wondering what's happening here. I want to, don't you want to know what's going on behind closed doors? I kind of want to know what's happening. I've been hearing a lot of stuff. I'll tell you what I heard from very well-placed people. Again, I don't dislike Hegseth. I think this is a bunch of Me Too stuff, whatever. I don't dislike him. I don't think that we are short of good choices on the right. It's not like there's a scarcity of opportunity at the table. I think that we need to get rid of that bimbo mindset. But I do think it's weird that he hasn't come out and said, you know, I'm standing behind my nominee. Because there's more fighting over this one than there... I mean, go back and look at Gates. He didn't say anything about Gates either. And then there was like a post on True Social or something or a tweet where he had basically put the nail in the political coffin, so to speak. So that's what I'm looking at. It's odd to me. So I... Like I said, I hear stuff and I don't know what to make of it. Because there's always, you know, there's a lot of stuff that's happening behind the scenes, I guess, as they try to wrangle. Everybody wants their own pick. Everybody wants their own pick. But one of the things that I heard... And again, from a very well-placed source, is that POTUS elect is tiring of seeing all these headlines about Hegseth and the back and forth fighting over it. He wants a win. He wants a home run pick. He doesn't want to have to fight and claw and tooth and nail and have the whole process gummed up. Because remember, what did I tell you from the get-go? He's got to come out blazing in January. He has got to do more in two years than anybody else in history. He really does. He's got to do a lot. And when you are in the confirmation hell process, so to speak, like Hegseth would be, And I'm not saying don't pick them. I'm just saying this is what some of the stuff that I've heard. That's going to take time and it's going to gum up the machine. And it's going to take you a lot longer to get the stuff done that you need done. Because remember, right as we get into this, we've got about a little bit over a year before we get into the midterm process. It is what it is. So what I've heard is that that's the thing that Trump is concerned about. He wants he understands and has listened and knows that he's got to be all gas, no brakes when he comes out. And they've got to act faster than the bureaucracy can respond. And from what I am told by literally people in his inner circle, that he is very well aware of this and it is a priority. So that's very good news. But also, I'm hearing that he is dissatisfied with seeing these headlines about Hegseth in the press. And he does not want any concerns or questions about someone who ultimately is going to be heading up the most powerful department in all of federal government. I mean, yes, you have your Secretary of State and you've got your chain of command. But DOD, SecDef is no mess. And that's a concern that he has. I'm also told that it's two different camps who want two different people and that one camp is very much still backing Hegseth and that the other camp, from what I heard, is the one that suggested the Florida governor's name. So that's where it is. Now, I don't know how that works. I don't even know if the governor or if DeSantis would even accept it. I did not see that one coming, admittedly. Because that's kind of way out of right field, isn't it? And it makes you think. You're like, wait a minute. One of the things I don't want people to be baited into, and I see this as a tactic, right? To support Hegseth. And I think that you can support Hegseth without tearing our other people down. I hate when I see those progressive tactics. It's usually done by people who have not been in the field long. And I hate it because it's cheap and it's unintelligent and it's illiberal. But I see people like, oh, my, they're trying to run up that divide again. between, I guess what, like Trump folks and DeSantis folks. I don't even know why there is a divide. Like what else do you, I mean, good grief. The man went out and endorsed him. And he ran his primary like a man. He didn't win the primary. He didn't take it like a pansy. He was a dude about it. I mean, what the hell else do you people want? You know, I'm like, geez, that's the way you want it to be done. Am I right? I just see people, I see the people bitching and moaning about it. Those are the betas that are bitching and moaning about it. Get over it. And the reason I say that is because you can't have this. We don't have time for this stuff. Like we got to get out there and we got to like all gas, no brakes, like I said. And I see some people who are defending Hegseth use attacking DeSantis as the way to defend Hegseth. And that is not the way. How in the hell are you going to attack literally the most conservative and most successful governor in the United States? one of the most successful Republican governors in our country's history. How are you attacking that guy as like your lame attempt to try to boost up? I like Hegseth too, but you don't have to tear down your own side. It's like the left is structuring these arguments. Here, here's how we can get him to defend this guy while tearing themselves apart. Stop it. Jiminy Christmas, who the hell's driving this crazy bus? So, To me, I just don't I don't know. I don't know. I'm still kind of processing it. But like I said, and these are two different dudes to two different dudes, two different approaches. And I think you got to look at, well, what does DOD need more? And I think this is probably maybe what Trump is weighing. Now, think about it. You're Trump and you're looking at DOD. Guys, we know it's a mess, right? Hi, we all watched people legit falling off planes in Afghanistan. I mean, you remember in the lead up to the evacuation of Kabul. Remember, they went from Bagram or they went from Bagram Air Force Base. Then they they moved everything. They were moving equipment, moving stuff, moving folks all into the Harmeet Karzai Airport, which was in the middle of Kabul, which was weird. They had a base not, you know, that was a little out on the outskirts of the city that was more fortified and better protected. They move everything into the city, into the airport, into the city where you have a lot more entrances and exits that you have to that you have to man and fortify. Excuse me. And then they knew that the Taliban were rolling through Afghanistan. How do they know? Remember the WhatsApp, the WhatsApp conversations? I read a BBC piece where a village had surrendered before the Taliban rolled up, and then they just bypassed the village for time, and they just sent a representative in, I guess, to negotiate terms. How did they do that? They were all on WhatsApp. Taliban was telling everybody, oh, we're coming to your town. We're going to be taken over unless you go ahead and surrender. That's how they were rolling through Afghanistan. They didn't even have to show up and battle half the time, right? So they knew they were coming. They knew it was going to be a thing. They knew they were going to go. They had already their moles in the city. They knew they were going to be there. And so they didn't do anything. DOD didn't do anything. When Milley was asked about it while testifying before Congress, he sort of brushed past it. Because he was asked about chatter beforehand. This wasn't chatter. This was on WhatsApp. Like, easily chat. I mean, they could have seen this easily. And so that's one of the problems. The DEI stuff is a problem. You know, I was talking to someone who is in the, we'll say army leadership about this. And there are a lot of good people in the military that are wanting this stuff to change. And one of the things that you that that people have to realize, too, and I don't envy anybody who has to take over secretary of defense because they are going to have to go in and reorganize house and it's going to be hell. And I was talking to someone pretty high up in the military very recently. I had a meeting and they were talking about recruitment. And I said, respectfully, I don't know how you can sit here and talk to me about recruitment when you've got guys in makeup and skirts who are sitting here talking about, you know, the military. When there were 13 service members who were killed due to dereliction of duty by the upper levels of military leadership. When people when when we all knew CIA, all our intel departments, military knew that Taliban was rolling through Afghanistan using WhatsApp. You know, my guy, when we allow the stuff that we are allowing to happen because you have people like, you know, General Milley and all these other guys that are more interested in DEI than than actually apparently appreciating the tactics necessary to secure victories that we've achieved over the past 20 years. Mike, you're sitting here talking about recruitment. This is what the next generation of people who enlist are seeing. Why the hell would they want to enlist in any kind of outfit that they don't feel not only doesn't have their back, but doesn't even understand the objective? Gives into mission creep. Doesn't even prioritize the objective. That's the issue. And I know that, you know, a lot of this stuff, as far as the DEI stuff, might be few and far between in the military. But you got to realize, too, the military has not been great about messaging things. I'm not talking about the publications that say that they're stars and stripes or whatever, but they're actually owned by a foreign entity. You know, I'm talking about like, you know, there's we live in a new era. Now, that's not to say I don't believe that military members need to need to debase themselves and endure the indignity of having to post stupid things on Instagram all the damn time. But I think explaining things like, you know, how it is that one of the deputies, one of the generals that's in the army was able to cut twenty two billion dollars out of the budget for jets that were going to have old tech and not even be delivered for another decade. I mean, that's pretty significant, right? You don't hear about stuff like that. Why don't we hear stuff like that? Why is nobody talking about it? That's the kind of stuff. There are so many things wrong with DOD. So back to my point, when Trump is looking at all of this, he's got to figure out what kind of leadership do I need to solve this? What do I need to solve this problem? And these are two very different type of people. Very different types of people. And to say that one may have a skill set that the other doesn't have is not an insult to either one. Let's not fall into that stupid trap. That's like saying, well, because you're congratulating men on this, you're saying women are less than. No, stop it. 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So people who feel like they're at the opposite gender when they're 15, 16, they're still adolescents, they should be treated with the same medical urgency as someone who needs period blockers for a different reason, like a true medical.
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Correct. It's a medical condition.
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What about things like mastectomies in general?
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Mastectomies are not done online.
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In general, mastectomies for people who believe that they're a different gender, should that be treated with the same medical urgency as mastectomies for people who have breast cancer?
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Yes. Wow. Wow. We are not the same. We are not the same, y'all. No, no, no, no. Wow. That's the mindset of people. One thing is elective, and it's entirely in your head, and then the other thing is a very real thing. I mean, this is wild. Kane, are you okay over there? I don't know what to say. Your jaw fell off.
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Yeah, I don't know what to say.
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You know, because it's like an aspirin, the risks associated. It's like taking an aspirin, you know.
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But yeah, the one's a mental. So he's right. It is a medical condition. It's a mental condition. One is a medical one that can be treated with actually medicine. The other one requires, you know, therapy.
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Yeah.
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And some work.
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Yeah. Not the same. Not the same. Now you can see the issue before SCOTUS right now. The... Discussions, which we're going to get into because they were hearing the arguments on that Tennessee case about the experimental surgeries and the hormone blockers and all that stuff. Oh, I'm just, you know, I'm just saying. I am just saying. It's very interesting. Indeed. We're going to come back to that. We have a number of things to touch with, to touch on, actually. Let me pull this up because I've got a lot of stuff here. We've got, obviously, the ongoing Daniel Penny case. Another interesting story, Jeff Bezos. has come out and said he is very optimistic about the incoming administration and is now offering to help streamline regulations. And he dismissed concerns about Elon Musk leveraging government power against competitors. Now, you've seen a lot of people like even, you know, Zuckerberg go to meet with Trump and, you know, all of this. I'm wondering... You know, are they all wanting to get involved because they don't want Musk to have that advantage of being that close to the administration? Or are they really supportive? I don't know. I think it may be both. We'll talk. Stick with us. If you're looking for a convenient, affordable way to access medications and treatments you can trust, All Family Pharmacy has you covered. Whether it's the flu or parasites, cancer support, or general well-being, All Family Pharmacy's online service makes getting the medications you need hassle-free. With All Family, it's simple. You can choose the individual medications that best suit your needs or opt for one of their comprehensive treatment packages designed to give you everything that you need in one convenient order. And every order comes with a doctor's prescription included. Ivermectin. hydroxychloroquine or any other effective medications they have it all and you can get fast shipping with most order shipping in two to three business days medications start as low as three dollars per capsule making it really easy to take charge of your health without breaking the bank no insurance needed you can skip the paperwork and get the treatments you need directly Stock up with their emergency preparedness bundles and access over 200 medications online anytime. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharma.com slash Dana, code Dana10. Welcome back to the program. We're at the top of the second hour. You're a lovable retired curmudgeon. I'm in a Christmas plaid shirt, so if you're not watching the simulcast of the radio program, which you can see on Rumble or Channel 347 DirecTV, you're missing out because I don't wear a lot of color. It's a Christmas plaid, right? A plaid, isn't it? As the Scots would say.
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It's lumberjack-y.
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Yeah, I feel like I want to go chop some trees, you know, and like pet some reindeer and whatever the hell else, like the Paul Bunyan types do. I'm just saying. So anyway, welcome. Welcome to the show. I saw this story of this, I don't know who this chick is. I don't want to give her attention. She's like a wannabe Media Matters thing. And she's very upset because apparently at one point, You know how when people do like podcasts or when they're doing digital specials, sometimes they have drinks. They'll sip some whiskey or something like that, especially if it's like a veteran show. It's not unusual. I mean, there's different regulations for public actual broadcast airwaves and then digital. So, like, you can't... You know, if you're running stuff, you can't be drinking when... Like, we, being on terrestrial stations, have different rules that we have to go by than if you're just doing, like, a podcast or just digital. And so, Hegseth apparently did a... an episode for a Fox digital thing where they were, he was sitting with a group of veterans and they were talking about war and military issues and things like that. And they were all sipping whiskey. They weren't doing shots. They were sipping whiskey as one should, you know, that's how you have, that's how you partake. And this broad on X is super upset. She's like, oh my gosh, look, people were saying that Pete Hegseth actually drank on the set for one of his shows. And I'm looking at this like, first off, it's a digital don't act like it's like a Fox and Friends episode because it's not. It's a digital thing. And that's a commonplace thing for a lot of these shows. They sit around. They have very casual conversations and it's a longer viewing period. And so it's way more casual. So stop it. But number two, let me let me make sure I understand this properly. Right. You have the broads of the ideology where they think, hey, it's okay, just make my mattress like McDonald's, a thousand served under these arches, a billion served under these arches. Have a rotating kiosk of intimate partners, believe in abortion on demand, supported by the taxpayer up until the moment of birth. But he sipped some whiskey on a digital thing that he did for Fox, and that's what you're going to clutch your pearls over? For real? Like, just let's compare the ideologies here. Again, because this chick is on the far left. So, yes, abortion on demand. Facilitated by the taxpayer up until the moment of birth. No personal responsibility. Nothing like that. If you make an error regarding recreational intercourse, then, well, you can just undo your error by killing the baby. You know, that's okay. But sipping some whiskey. You see what I mean? I've been saying this for years. Someone wrote a book about it after I've been saying it for years. These neo-Puritans on the left that want the enforcement but not the principle. It's weird. We're showing you some of the exact that episode right now. Now you're seeing this that Juan's showing you on the simulcast. It does not look like they're doing shots, Cain. They're sipping. It's a sipper in a very casual setting. They're actually in somebody's basement, I think. Somebody's walkout basement. I don't know where the hell they are. Or a bunker. And, I mean, he didn't even shave. So they're there. I mean, so?
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This is like man cave stuff.
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Yeah. It's dude stuff. Nobody's doing shots. They're not drinking irresponsibly. So this is actually some of the evidence that they're trying to say disqualifies him. For real. Man alive. I don't know. I just think that I can't really take criticisms about standards from the let's get rid of babies as a form of birth control party. I mean, if that's your ideology, you legit have no room to criticize anybody doing anything else. Not at all. So that's some of the latest that they keep trying to shove out because I keep seeing that over and over again. I keep seeing it brought up I'm like, I just don't think that that's that's not what drink that's they make it sound like he's doing like doing a cabinet kegger. Oh, he's drinking on the job. That's so goofy. That's just that's stop. Stop, stop, stop. Now, some of the other stuff that I wanted to have, we got some audio, too. I don't I want to play this video cane. It's in Slack, but it's very juvenile.
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Oh, yeah.
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So you guys remember Eric farts? I mean, Swalwell.
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Verbal typo.
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Yeah, it's a verbal typo. It was completely an innocent error. I need to discuss this video just because it's funny and I need a palate cleanser. And also, wow.
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It's almost Friday.
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I mean, you know, it is. Like I said, next week everybody's going to be drunk on eggnog. Half of you are going to be paying attention. So let me get your attention. This is Zoe Lofgren. She's a Democrat, of course. What is up with people from California and their personal gas issues? I don't get it. She just let her rip tater chip right there on CNN. Go ahead. Roll tape. Watch her eyes.
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That power of the purse is with the legislative branch, not the president.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I do want to ask you, because of your work on the January 6th committee.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you need a wipe after that. Dana, you're juvenile. I am. Hi. Did we meet just now? Did we? That's the smartest thing that was said on CNN all week, believe it or not. Smartest thing. Crazy, right? That fart is going to get its own contributorship. It's going to happen. Zoe Lofgren's fart. CNN contributor.
SPEAKER 06 :
It'll be Toobin and Tootin. I can see it now. It'll be like, you know, the big show.
SPEAKER 08 :
It can host a show with, yeah, Jeffrey Toobin.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Toobin can host it with, hosted by Jeffrey Toobin and Zoe Lofgren's fart. Yeah, there you go right there. I mean, it is. I know. I totally know that it's juvenile, and I love it all the same. Love it all the same. And notice Jim Acosta's face. Jim Acosta has this thing where he looks at his monitor. So if you're watching the simulcast, I'm looking right at the camera. I don't have a teleprompter. I have a giant screen in front of me that I refer to for notes or if I'm reading, quoting something for you. And then I have a monitor that shows me the program right below it. So you can't really see unless you kind of can. If I'm looking right at the camera, if I'm looking at the monitor for some reason, it's like CNN's monitors are five feet under the camera. I don't get it because he's not looking at the camera. He's looking all the way down at the monitor. So when you're the viewer and you're watching, even when he's only when he's, unless he's reading the prompter, Does he look at the camera? He doesn't look at it unless he's reading the prompter. He's always like this. Always. If you go find clips of Jim Acosta, this dumbass cannot look at the camera to save his life. He's constantly looking down at the monitor. And I'm like, dude, bro, look at the camera. But then it then it makes me wonder, well, how low are those monitors? Like, look at where his eyes are. His eyes are like all the way. I mean, his whole head's turned down. How far away from the camera? The monitor should be right underneath it to where there's not really. And the monitor is just, you know, so you can kind of see, you know, take a glimpse for like show elements. Like sometimes I'll look at it if we're doing like a side by side or something to make sure because I move so much that I'm not aggravating Juan. And I'm like in the middle of the shot because Juan is obsessed with symmetry. Because he's good at his job. That's what he does. He's like, everything's got to be symmetrical. Everything's got to be in its place. So I try to help out by not going everywhere. So I'll refer to the monitor. He always stares at it. And then I noticed when he's questioning people. Remember when he was in the White House press corps? I because I was looking at some of these videos on break. He doesn't look at people in the face when he's asking them a question. I've noticed this even when and one of the videos that came up was that were that time that he grabbed that woman's arm when he was questioning Trump remember and they were having a very it was like he was having a very heated you know Q&A it was a White House press avail and even then he was not he would not look at anybody in the face it's weird he's a weird cat he's a weird dude I don't know. I mean, maybe Zoe Loughran's fart is going to take over a show because, I mean, at least that looks right in the face. Just saying. Can we hear it again, please? Steve is obsessed with us. Steve was the one who was like, watch your eyes. I only heard it once. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
That power of the purse is with the legislative branch, not the president.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I do want to ask you because of your work on the January 6th committee.
SPEAKER 08 :
That almost sounded like a video game effect. Right? Trying to think what that reminded me of. What video game sound does that remind me of something? Yeah, I don't know. But so I thought that was that was the smartest thing that has been said on. Yeah, smartest thing that's been said on CNN. Interesting headline in England. Muhammad becomes the most popular baby name. And as of 2023, Muhammad was also the fourth most popular baby boy name in Europe. There's a lot of Mohammed's. That's I. You're not ever going to be able to pinpoint when someone was born by their name. If you're all named the same, you know, because you can do that with names like Jennifer's. Do you know anybody who's named Jennifer now who's like under 30? Yeah. You don't know a single Jennifer under the age of 30. What about like a Kelly? Kelly, under 30? Uh-huh. Nope. You don't. Think about it. Stacey? You don't know anybody named Stacey anymore. Under 30. Nobody. Right? Yeah. Everyone's like Madison and Hannah and, you know, like Bella and all that kind of stuff. That's everybody's name. Everybody's named after like a Barbie. That's what it sounds like. Skipper. But it's true. You know, it's true. But so Mohammed is now it's the most popular baby boy name in England. And in 2023, like I said, it was the fourth most popular boy name in Europe. It overtook it overtook Noah. And and that's even in England and Wales. Followed by Noah and Oliver. Hmm. So, and it's been in the top 10 since 2016. In 2023, 4,661 boys were given the name Mohammed, beating out the 4,382 boys named Noah. Third was Oliver, followed by George, Leo, and Arthur. Oliver's a very popular name, apparently. So, I don't know. Just interesting. Interesting. And it's clearly due to the religious significance in the increasing Muslim population in the two countries, which has doubled since 2001. Fast growing. So that's the reason for the name's dominance. And. I love how the spokesperson, there was a spokesperson for this Middle Eastern news outlet who said, well, yes, it coincides with the increasing diversity in names for boys generally. Not if it's all Mohammed. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Cuba's electric grid has collapsed after a power plant failure. Their early Wednesday morning after the failure, Energy and Mines Ministry said, plunging millions of people into darkness. This has been happening for the past two months. Their power and generation systems have fallen into disarray amid fuel shortages, natural disasters, and economic crisis. The Mines Ministry said that they're working to reconnect the electrical system. Good heavens. That's just... Amazon is sued by a D.C. attorney... for the dcag excuse me for allegedly excluding neighborhoods from prime delivery uh this according to cnbc they uh said that the the lawsuit was first filed in 2022 but they said that amazon stopped using its own delivery trucks in two different zip codes due to safety concerns and they said that that caused more than 48 000 prime members To see slower delivery speeds than the rest of the district, despite the fact that they paid for the same subscription and they had the same subscription fees. Well, if it's unsafe. I mean, if it's unsafe, then, you know, that's what it is, unfortunately. Also, excuse me. The FBI is warning iPhone and Android users to stop sending texts. Now they're saying to stop sending unencrypted texts because of everything from Chinese cyber attacks to all kinds of stuff. But the US Cyber Defense Agency, FBI and CISA are warning people, and this is at Forbes, to use responsibly encrypted messaging and phone calls when they can. And they said that's because of the Chinese hacking of U.S. networks is likely larger in scale than previously understood, is what they're saying. Hmm. The world's oldest known wild bird lays an egg at 74 years of age. This old, old bird. It's an albatross. They got it on film too. Interesting. We got more in store. Stick with us. ReadyWise is always ready. And you know the chain of command for your food, which is very important. I mean, you're talking about survival food. Excuse me. And you want to be able to trust where you get your food from. And so with ReadyWise, you have U.S. ingredients packed in a U.S. plant, sent out from that plant right to you, and you can get free and fast shipping on most orders, making sure that your provisions reach you promptly. And they have all kinds of product choices to meet every budget, like the emergency one-month supply two-bucket bundle. They also have the three-month emergency food supply. And by the way, all of this is designed – by their team of in-house culinary experts to make sure that you're getting the nutrition that you need, the caloric count, your daily protein, the healthy carbs, all of it. And you get a wide range of choices for each time of the day. It's the ultimate in premium survival food without sacrificing your wallet and best taste as well. Comfort in a crisis and beyond with a 25-year shelf life. Visit ReadyWise.com and use promo code Dana20 at checkout for 20% off of your entire purchase. That's ReadyWise.com, promo code Dana20 for 20% off.
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SPEAKER 03 :
True in every respect. But on page 195 of the cast report, it says there is no evidence that gender affirmative treatments reduce suicide.
SPEAKER 11 :
What I think that is referring to is there is no evidence in the studies that this treatment reduces completed suicide. And the reason for that is completed suicide, thankfully and admittedly, is rare. And we're talking about a very small population of individuals with studies that don't necessarily have completed suicides within them. However, there are multiple studies long-term longitudinal studies that do show that there is a reduction in suicidality, which I think is a positive outcome to this treatment.
SPEAKER 08 :
So this is the ACLU's attorney, the trans attorney, who was trying to present as an argument for her case that gender, I hate this phrase, I'm not saying gender affirmative, the experimental surgeries and the chemical castrations and the puberty blockers and the hormones and all of this stuff, the elective mastectomies, all of it, that it reduces suicide. That was what they were trying to argue in the beginning. And now when they have to actually provide any something substantial to support their their argument, they are unable to. And they have to, I mean, they have to relent and acknowledge that there's no evidence in these studies that it reduces suicide. Cain keeps going back to suicidality. Yeah, you like that word?
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, it's everything. It's like, but people think about it, though, is the thing. People think about suicide. So that's why we need these surgeries, because people think about suicide.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, being suicidal, and then that's a very different, what they're trying to, I mean, that's a Ma Bailey.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
That doesn't make any sense. Exactly. That's so stupid. I mean, you're either... I mean, there's a medical evaluation for that. And literally, there's criteria already established to determine whether or not someone is suicidal, clearly. This is just them trying to shore up this losing argument. They're not going to... It doesn't look like the court is going to lean their way. But we'll see. Just...
SPEAKER 06 :
Other countries have done the studies and they realize that there's no future in this path that's good for humanity.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's why they're banned in Europe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly right. And they know that this is the end game here, but they're trying to play the drama up. The media is trying to do that now with this SCOTUS situation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, Lorraine made note of this. I didn't. Someone else did. Because I had this thought that I wasn't going to say anything because I thought I was the only one. No, Lorraine just came out with it in Slack. Lorraine's going to learn real quick. She goes, the lawyer's name is Chase Strangeo. LOL. AKA Chasing Strange. I'm dead. I'm dead. It sounds like a very fancy way of saying, I mean, you could say Chasing Strange. That's just, you know, or Chasing Strangeo. Strangio. Chasing the Strangio. I don't know. Gosh, so you guys know what that means. No, I'm not going to explain it. Don't Google it. Do not. I feel like they're doing it when I say to not, Cain.
SPEAKER 06 :
But that can't be real. Is that the real name?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's what her name is.
SPEAKER 06 :
That can't be real.
SPEAKER 08 :
Chase Strangio.
SPEAKER 06 :
That cannot be real. So there's nothing real about this person.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's like someone's name.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, don't do it. You're going to do it, aren't you? Don't do it. Don't do it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know, like if their first name was Michael.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. No, I know what you mean. I get it.
SPEAKER 08 :
And his parents are the Hunt family.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 1 :
What?
SPEAKER 08 :
Nothing. Just saying. It's like a joke, almost like jokey like that, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Chase Strangio. What a name. Like, of all the names you could... For real, like, if you're going to change all that about yourself, maybe don't make your name Chasing Strange. It's like Chasing Amy, but not. Right? You all right over there? Yeah. I don't know, man. I blame Lorraine for that one.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's all her, man. They even have a real lawyer?
SPEAKER 08 :
Is she a real lawyer? She has... She's a lawyer. She's with the ACLU, whatever that means.
SPEAKER 06 :
But is the she part the lawyer or is the he part the lawyer?
SPEAKER 08 :
Nah, she's a lawyer.
SPEAKER 06 :
Did she take the bar or did he take the bar?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, does it matter?
SPEAKER 06 :
I thought it did.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know. But still, that's the argument that they're having. That's the Supreme Court. Like I said, I still feel like SCOTUS, especially with some of the questioning, it feels like they're leaning towards... Not I mean, in favor of Tennessee is what it sounds like. But, you know, I'm still we'll see. It's a. All right, we've got... I'm looking at some... There's like a bunch of odds and ends stuff. Like I've got Doge stuff. We've been talking about the cabinet nominees and this thing with SecDef, which I think we're not going to know until Trump actually just comes out and says, hey guys, I'm either going to stand behind my nominee or I feel like maybe... Maybe we need to have somebody else because there's been a lot of rumors about DeSantis and all this. So we'll see. But I will say that one of the other moves, and I'm going to go to Doge just because I like saying it. One of the other things that we've seen is this department. I was actually shocked at this. So Luke Rosiak, who does really good work and he's done stuff with Daily Caller, etc. He had said in this in his examination of the federal workforce, I did not know it was this much. He had said that 94 percent of the feds of the federal government still works from home. The EPA had poisonous water in its own headquarters because it was sitting in the pipes stagnant from disuse. USDA inspectors claim that they inspect food facilities for safety issues from home. It's 2024. 94% of them still work from home. What in the world? He noted that the Social Security Administration just spent $120 million renovating its massive headquarters. But the building is 91% unused. And Biden just signed an agreement giving them, all the way through the Trump administration, I mean, to be able to continue using this building, even though Biden used his 2022 speech to say workers have to come back to the office and be productive. At the VA, their website states that you can break away from the traditional nine to 540 hour work week. One third of calls to one mental health hotline for veterans went unanswered. This is unreal. Unreal. So apparently now. It looks like this might be one of the first things Doge cuts. It might be one of the very first things that they cut. When you look at how before the pandemic, apparently it was only 3% of the federal workforce that worked from home or teleworked or whatever. Before the pandemic, 3%, like barely 3%. Now they said 6% report in person on a full-time basis, one-third entirely are remote. The government spends $16 billion a year to operate all of its buildings, the properties that it puts all this stuff in, right? And so even knowing that, even knowing that, They only have an occupancy rate of 12%.
SPEAKER 1 :
12%.
SPEAKER 08 :
Even GSA, and that's the General Services Administration, that's the entity that manages federal real estate. They work from home. Their base in Missouri came. Unbelievable. Like the EPA. That's how Luke Rosiak noted that they had dangerous bacteria in their water, according to an audit, because the water was left in the pipes stagnant from disuse. But yet they have the unions, which I don't think public sector unions absolutely have no place in American society. Private unions are one thing. I don't have an issue with private unions. Public unions, where the government gets to sit at the table with big fat cat public unions, Funded by the taxpayer bosses and taxpayers are told that we don't get to have a say in it. Oh, hell no. And a lot of them taxpayers are private unions to private working private sector unions. Does that sound like it's fair? Hell no, it doesn't. And but you have the public unions that are demanding full individual workstations for each employee being maintained in the event that they're used. those rare occasions so now it looks like because one of the things musk has said is that if people don't want to come into work then they can go find another job i agree but you know what what's more if it's shown that we don't need all this then why do we have it if we don't need all these employees why do we have them I think we need to eliminate a lot of these offices entirely. Social Security Administration, give everybody money back. Stop government spending. Take it all down to Article 1, Section 8. Return money to the people. Eliminate it. Eliminate Department of Education. Eliminate Social Security Administration. Eliminate DHS. I mean, I could go on, on and on and on. But it requires an austerity that most people, including Republicans, don't have the spine to endure. This congressman says it's absurd to get rid of the Department of Education. Listen.
SPEAKER 14 :
I've got many examples where CBO has absolutely failed to adequately assess the cost. I think with the issue of getting rid of the Department of Education, for example, they claim it would cost millions and millions and millions of dollars to get rid of an agency. That makes no sense at all. You're getting rid of an agency that costs us $80 billion a year, and yet it's supposed to cost us more money if we get rid of it.
SPEAKER 08 :
That just is absurd. It's not going to cost you more money if you get rid of it. Do you realize the amount of spending that we do per student in some of these states where you have the worst academic performances? What the states spend per student actually exceeds about 90% of private school tuition per student. When I was in Ohio for an event, I think it was they were telling us that they spent over $13,000. I think it was over $13,000. Let me check my notes. The spending... student per student in Ohio. Oh, sorry, I was under. It's over $15,000 per student. In fact, the approximate average is $15,427 per pupil. And that's in Ohio. In some states, it's higher. Illinois, it's higher. California, it's higher. New York, it's higher. I was at an event and I was talking with a family. They have three kids and their kids are in private Christian school. And their private tuition per student was cheaper than what they spend public school per pupil. Now, I homeschooled my kids and then they went to a Christian school. And we spent less per pupil than what the state of Texas spent, spends per pupil. We spent less on their per student tuition than what the state... That's unreal. My point in telling you this is that when you talk about school choice, what you're talking about is allowing all that money that you're paying into these schools that are not performing, a department of education that has been failing your kids ultimately since its inception, and allowing you... to choose a better education for your kids. People who argue against school choice, they don't want your kids better educated. They want you to be as uneducated as they can make you. They don't want your children to, they don't want them, they don't believe in upward economic mobility and they use this as a weapon against it. That is what this is. They don't want you choosing a better school for your child. These people who want to deny you the right of what to do with the money you work for and the child that you are raising. Now you can see why this is such a common denominator issue for so many. Republicans need to be louder and louder and louder about this. Life can take a toll on our bodies. There's no way around it. And whether it's just sitting for hours on end at your computer or if you're working a physical job, over time, your body pays the price. There is, however, an effective way to turn back the clock on pain. Relief Factor. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor helps support your body's response to inflammation. And the difference, instead of just masking pain, Relief Factor helps eliminate it for good. And it's 100% drug-free. My husband, Chris, has taken Relief Factor with incredible results. So if the pains that come with living a full life are affecting you, do as many others have done and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. Their three-week quick start is just $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. And when you feel good, it's amazing how much more you get out of life. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Try it for only $19.95 and turn back the clock on pain with Relief Factor. Relieffactor.com.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 08 :
Jeez, straws, axes. So this Florida man, a saw-swinging Florida man, struck a guy during a wrong-way driving argument. Boy, oh boy. Yeah. So this Fort Myers Lee County Sheriff's Office, an argument over a wrong-way driving, landed one man in jail and another with non-life-threatening injuries. Rolando Ruiz Alonzo. Too many names, Rolando. He was the primary aggressor in the altercation. And according to police, the old dude began swinging a... Was it a saw or not? A saw-like tool toward a victim as the argument escalated and the victim was struck. And then he also used a piece of ceramic pottery as a weapon. He was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. I guess, I mean, he was driving the wrong way and got called out. I don't know. But good heavens, like there's... How many people have saws and machetes there? It's like people just go to their trucks and get them. Here's my machete. Okay. Here's my saw. A Florida man who was accused of murder was captured after TikTok revealed his whereabouts. People overshare. He shot and killed his girlfriend in front of her two children while they were at a cemetery of all places. St. Petersburg police were searching for him for three and a half years. No success. And then a video of a local news story was shared on TikTok. He was in Mexico and it showed him in Mexico and they were able to get him. So now he's been charged with first degree murder and two counts of child abuse. They just happened to get him. So, wow. They just happened to see him in the background of this news story. He was in Mexico. Not really hiding out too well, I guess. We have our third hour on the way and the latest with just all the latest. Stick with us. Welcome back to the program, your lovable retired goth, Dana Lash, in a Christmas-played Here, back at the top of this third hour, you can find the discussion over a rumble. You can also find us on YouTube and find us on X as well. Channel 347, DirecTV, the best of in the podcast. So all good things. So a few, I got to tell you, and we've been watching all of this stuff. As it pertains to the we were talking about Doge a little bit ago, and a lot of these cabinet picks, etc, etc. And I saw I had I saw this story last night, and I'm trying to wrap my mind around it. And I got aggravated. I always get mad at people who think that politics began the day that they signed up for an X account. Because some of us have been out here busting our edible snakes for quite some time, pushing it back against rhinoism, right? And you always get these drive-bys who are like, oh, I can't believe people think that Republicans are... you know, like the party of a small government or whatever. And I'm like, you know, broad, first off, you know, drop the drunk bridesmaid act. I get that you, you know, when you created your ex account, you think that all politics began that the day that you became self-aware, but some of us have been out here doing the heavy lifting while you could sit here and go and get your overfilled face done and your ratty ass extensions. And you could try to like talk platitudes about it on X. Stop. I get so aggravated over this stuff. Stop it. A lot of people out there have been doing the heavy lifting. A lot of you out there have been doing the heavy lifting, pushing back, calling your lawmakers, holding everybody accountable. And we're not going to be judged by people who just opened a drive by account and all of a sudden want to weigh in like, you know, they're the generals of the movement. Stop it. We're not doing it. And I specifically got aggravated over this one post that I saw from Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas. So he he posted this. Did you see this, King? This is going to be up your alley. It's in Slack. He said it's a major legislative initiative to ban all THC. Thousands of stores have opened to sell all types of dangerous products with unlimited THC. And these stores even target your children is what he's saying. Let me read it first off. Oh, don't roll your eyes. I don't care if you're I'm not Tommy Chong. Okay. I'm no Tommy Chong, but I know government overreach when I see it. That's what this is about. Today, it's about whatever the hell THC. Tomorrow, it's guns. You don't know. So he had this, he wants to ban all THC. Thousands of stores have opened to sell all types of dangerous products. What? Wait, there's more. He's talking about This representative, Tracy King, this bill, blah, blah, blah. Part of the bill allowed for the commercialization of hemp, which might include unremovable, non-intoxicating trace amounts of Delta 9 THC. Quote, dangerously, retailers exploited the agriculture law to sell life-threatening, unregulated forms of THC to the public and made them easily accessible. They sold them to adults, and they targeted Texas children, exposed them to dangerous levels of THC. I mean, they keep saying the word dangerous, and then they use the word life-threatening levels in another sentence. I'm sorry. Excuse me? Okay. Again, I'm no Tommy Chong here, but... I'm pretty sure that you would have to have all the THC on Earth in order for it to be considered dangerous. Am I correct? I was talking to some of my more pot-minded associates about this. So, yes, maybe we know people in California. I don't partake in any of this. But they get so into the, like, what am I thinking of? The artisanal marijuana. It is hysterical. How it is not a reality show, I do not know. If you've ever tried to see hippies turn into bougie entrepreneurs, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. God love it. But anyway, Kane, don't they include a tiny amount? I mean, it's not like they're tripping acid.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, no, it's not unlimited. It's definitely limited. There's only so much.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, you can regulate it. From what I understand, it's already Texas law that it's regulated.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is regulated. So that's a lie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dan Patrick published a lie.
SPEAKER 06 :
He's talking about.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm so surprised.
SPEAKER 06 :
He's talking about the THC that they've in the lab removed a molecule so that it isn't. the illegal THC-9 on the federal level. So he's talking about the THCs that have had the molecules removed so that they're a different THC from the THC-9, and he's saying that those are dangerous. So it's a little bit different because this is sort of a laboratory thing that's created for these vapes and the consumption for people. So I don't know. He's technically not lying, though.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't want to sound like Joe Rogan talking about this stuff. And that's not an insult, but I'm just not a pot person. I'm not, I'm not, but I just am like, this is big government. This is big government.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, without a doubt it is. Oh, without a doubt. It absolutely is.
SPEAKER 08 :
So the same government that was like, y'all better get these shots. Now it was like, no, you can't have gummies. Right? Same, same people. Right. And we are to listen to them. Why?
SPEAKER 06 :
I can't sell you on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
No means no, Texas government.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's not what AOC says.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, okay, because you guys think it's funny that I know so little about football. Wait until you hear me talk about marijuana. This is Kane's other favorite. Because what did I tell you yesterday? How did I say it yesterday? I was like, well, doesn't THC, doesn't that just make you like fat because of munchies and suspicious?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it was suspicious and fat? That's what you said.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, doesn't it just make you suspicious and fat?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I'm like, what? What do you mean? Paranoid? Yes. And get the munchies?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Because isn't that like the common thing? It's like you're always paranoid. And so there are a couple of people I know who actually work in this industry, like I was saying. And both of them are veterans. And one of them we just met, but we know somebody that does this. It's like a lot of veterans use it, especially to help manage PTSD, because they don't want to be hooked on big pharma stuff. They don't want to have to take like these, you know, psychotropic drugs and all of this. And they just need, you know, and it helps them to relax at night or whatever. I don't have any problem with that. I don't know why anybody, mind your business. I mean, for crying out loud, it's a gummy. And they put, from what I understand, like a tiny percentage of whatever in it. It's not like people are going out there, you know, tripping beans and acting like Beta or Rourke, breaking and entering and drunk driving. Nobody's doing that.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know, and it's this kind of work by the government that actually has us putting our names on lists when we want to get pseudofed for our nose running or something. That's what big government, this is what will end up happening.
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Someone was saying that it was similar to taking melatonin. I was reading that in the comments. I take like 10 milligrams. Sometimes I'll take 20 of melatonin. I'm actually trying to take less because I get so groggy. I'm so groggy in the morning. But I take 10 milligrams of melatonin a night. I'm definitely not out there being dangerous on 10 milligrams of melatonin. If it's, if, if what I have been told and what I've read that it is similar in terms of like relaxing you, which is why a lot of veterans take it and they take it.
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No, I don't. Okay.
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I don't get suspicious and fat. No, that's because it doesn't have the pot in it. It's not just melatonin, like the fast dissolve melatonin tablet. Right. I mean, I'm just saying, why, why is this an issue that they're focusing on in Texas? No, I get that people can walk and chew gum at the same time. But out of nowhere, let's go after the THC. And from what I'm understanding, it's a tiny... I don't want the government involved in anything else. No, Texas should be shrinking government, not expanding it. This is just big government. And I don't care if you're a pot person or not. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. I mean, this is a variable. What have I always told you? In all of these instances, guns are a variable. Pot is a variable. Look at all of this. It's the same formula. They just switch out the variables. That's it. That's it.
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I wonder if on a federal level, the fact that they're talking about changing the schedule of it.
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I think they're trying to nationalize all regulation of it to create an industry for themselves that they can monopolize.
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I wonder if this is just Texas' response to that potential. I have no idea, though.
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I don't think so. That's not how I look at it. I mean, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I mean, I like being correct on issues. I'm not, you know, I'm not a petty partisan. But to me, from when I was reading this, like, why do you need to ban it? They're not trying to... They just want to ban everything. Why do you need to ban it? And sorry, they're not targeting the kids. They're not. That sounds like a gun grabber argument. Oh, you're marketing these guns to kids. No one is selling... THC to kids. Have you seen these stores? No offense to anyone, but I'm going to be very honest. Okay. You know what do they look like? Do you want to, you know what they look like? They look like, oh gosh, you're going to, they look like white trash boomer places. I'm sorry, but they do. It's like, they're so uncool looking. They are so uncool. They're uncool. Kids don't want to go to an uncool place. It's not like they're sticking Barney out front or whatever the hell furry. They're not sticking that stuff out front. You know, come on, stop it. Stop it. I'm not making nobody get mad because I'll print out your email and I will I will roll over it with my mini segue that I got six years ago on Amazon for Mother's Day. And then I'll take it to the range and shoot Buckeye through it or birdshot through it. So stop it. But you know what I mean? They look like adult places. It doesn't look cool. They don't look cool. Kids are not going to go to a place that doesn't look cool. I seriously take issue with the whole marketing to the kids thing. That's what big government always says with stuff that it wants to ban. Oh my gosh. It's going after the kids. Wait, the same government that's going after the kids trying to cut their genitals off and flip their genders against the wishes of their parents? Suddenly this government's all worried about the kids? Oh, what? The same government that lost hundreds of thousands of kids that it allowed to come across the border illegally. Suddenly that same government, oh my goodness, we can't have these cannabis stores targeting the kids. Just can't have it, Cain. Can't have these cannabis stores going after the kids, no.
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I've seen the ingredients list on like Fruit Loops. They're allowing some pretty poisonous stuff. to our kids eat it right in front of the TV.
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They literally use a bird to advertise it to the kids.
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Yes, directly to the kids.
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Come eat our cancer cereal, kids. Full of cancer. Yeah, I'm not really going to pay attention to the government. So out of all the, and you know what? Lieutenant Governor Patrick has come on the show before. Can we have, let's bring him on again to talk about that. He's going to be like, oh my gosh. We get along with him so well, even when he's so wrong. We're so nice because he's very genteel. But I'm just like the same guy. Is anybody else fed up with the government telling you what you can and can't do, especially after, I don't know, the whole Wu flu drama? Yeah. So it seems like I'm just done with it. The same government that was doing all this stuff. that was shilling out books about oral sex to your kids in elementary school. The same government. Oh, we don't like these. These stores are targeting the kids. No, they're not. You are. Stop. We got more on the way.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Oh, man. I just remembered it's time to watch Nightmare Before Christmas. Deadly Nightshade. Movie actress dies at a Mexican spiritual retreat after consuming deadly monkey frog potion. What gave you the idea that this might be deadly? Anything that's a monkey frog potion already sounds like it's going to be deadly. Why do people do this? So it's I don't think you need to say movie actress, but they did this strange potion. They said dates back to the Inca period. And oh, it's meant to cause uncontrollable diarrhea and vomiting for consumers, which supposedly acts as a cleanse. So Marcella Rodriguez, she apparently decided that she was going to do this and it didn't work out well for her. It's 40 times stronger than morphine. Oh, my gosh. Why? Who's like, you know, well, you're going to basically leak out of everything to death. That's how it's going to work for you. Who wants to go, okay, let's do that? No. It was in Durango, northern Mexico. I mean, it literally took hours to kill her. They're doing an autopsy, but you pretty much have an idea of how that happened, I was going to say. That's horrible. An officer uses a... An officer uses a child's bicycle chasing down a felony suspect. And there's body cam footage and it's actually hysterical. He was not near a squad car. He used a little kid's bicycle to go after the felon. He commandeered a kid's bike to continue the pursuit, said the department in its paperwork. And it was a bright lime green bike too, which is funny. They got him. He got him. He caught the suspect, charged him with felony theft. The guy also had three other outstanding warrants. And they said the suspect might have had a scooter, but Officer Tarr had determination and a kid's bike. Yeah, he thought he was going to get away on a motorized scooter, but it wasn't going to happen. Not with Officer Tarr. He was on it. I mean, and kudos to the kid who let him take the bike. Juan's showing you the footage right now. He grabs the kid's bike, and he's like, here we go. Here we go. We're going after him. I mean, this actually makes me want to now ride a bicycle. Right? Remember how fun this was back in the day? Oh, yeah. This was fun. By the way, this is what Peloton should have had. Peloton should have had, like, revisiting your childhood by riding your, instead of the stupid stuff that they had. They favored us. Yeah, going through the neighborhood. Let's see here. Oh, the worst time to shoplift. Here's an idea. If you're shopping with a cop, don't steal while you're doing it. And they did this as a Walmart event, their annual shop with a cop. And someone who was shopping with a cop decided to steal from the Walmart. Didn't work out well for him. Stick with us. We've got more in store.
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Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. I've been seeing these stories about now Joni Ernst hitting, saying that she supports transgender inclusion in the military and wants to require females to register for the draft. And this is like some story. She's talked about this before, like on PBS or whatever show that is. She's discussed it before. And she had said that that women are perfectly capable of contributing in combat, et cetera, et cetera. So all this is is and she's expressed support for requiring women to register for the draft. Look, you don't have to tell me all this stuff about Joni Ernst. I mean, I know this. I mean, we've kind of criticized this before. But I think it's coming out now because they are... This whole thing with Pete Hegseth and she's been very critical. I guess has not wanted to say that she supports Pete Hegseth for SecDef. I don't agree with her about women in combat. And I don't think that... I don't believe in a draft. I don't. I actually, my grandfather, God rest his soul, who enlisted in World War II, he didn't wait to be drafted. He was so ornery. He's like, no, I'm going, like day after Pearl Harbor. He's like, I'm out. I'm going. He understood, or well, at least he says that he understood the need for a draft and that you have to defend your country, et cetera. And I don't see, I just, I'm not in favor of a draft. And I don't think that women should be added to the draft. I don't think men should be. This whole argument about how my body, my choice, women say that superficially, but men can actually say it. Because as long as we have a draft, it's not their choice and it's not the man's body. It's Uncle Sam's body. And if Uncle Sam wants to tell that man to go to war, that man's got to go to war. If Uncle Sam wants to draft him up, he can draft him up. Everybody knows this. Every young man knows this. Every parent of a young man knows this. They sign that card when they turn 18 and they have to send it in under threat of penalty. Women don't have anything to do that. So spare me the bitching about my manning my two A's. That's so stupid. Broads, you think that you have no choice? Try being a man. Try being a man and not knowing what your future is going to be like. Heaven forbid if you get a draft happy marriage. you know, warmonger in the White House who, and believe me, after 9-11, Democrats actually tried to bring something up like this in committee. I wrote about it at the time. They absolutely loved them a draft. Democrats had never met a draft they didn't like. So imagine being a young man Wondering, okay, well, if we get a warmonger or far left draft lover in the White House, what does that mean for my future? Because all Uncle Sam has to do is be like, oh, calling you up for war. Calling you up for war. Calling you up. Calling you up. Women, they don't have to worry about that kind of stuff. But the third and fourth wave feminism is so self-infatuated. It's so indulgent. It's, it's, I mean, it's gotten to the point. It's just a bloated behemoth of, of bitchery for the lack of a better way to put it. They can't see outside of them, of their own selves to recognize this truth. Men have no control of their bodies. Uncle Sam does. So when I hear Ernst talk about registering women for the draft, you know, um, No, I don't think men should be required, but I don't think women should definitely don't think women should be call me old school. I don't care. I don't think women have any business being in combat. I'm fine with women as pilots and being chopper pilots. I do think that's different. I got a lot of I actually have a handful of female friends who flew who were pilots. And by the way, not a single damn one of them disagrees with what I just said. They're like, yeah, it's different. They are smart enough, they know what their strengths are, which is why they're flying, but they also know what their limitations are. They know that they can't be on a team right there on the ground going in, kicking in doors because if something were to happen by science and by anatomy and physiology, just by basic reality, they immediately are, and this is not a derogatory term, the weakest point in that unit. And when you get stuff like that, you get guys that are going to want to protect that. And then you're asking them to protect her and then also do their job. You can't do it. I'm being realistic about it. People who want if they want to live in the kitten and sunshine world of let's give everyone a chance, then you can go ahead and run your country into a hellhole. That's fine. But you're not going to go start your own country. You're not going to do it. The United States of America. I don't have time for this stuff. This is stupid. I'm not going to sit here and engage in this back and forth. Women should be in. No, they shouldn't. End of damn story. The end. If you have a problem with it, go somewhere where they don't give a rat's ass about women and maybe you can go serve in one of their militaries if you're so hard up over that. And as a mother of sons, I don't want one of my sons to ever have to worry about having to not only watch out for his own six, but then having to protect a teammate who is physically weaker than in the battlefield. I mean, we've talked about this over the 10 years that everybody's been debating it. The 10 plus years everyone's been debating it. This is not the time for women to prove their bona fides. This is not the time for women to be like, I am as tough as a man. You aren't. Not physically. There's certain things that you can do that men can't. There's certain things that men can do that women can't. I need feminism to stop brain rotting women into thinking that that is somehow a deficit. That speaks more about how feminists hate women than how men hate women. Feminists hate the female sex. They hate women. They don't appreciate what women do. They don't appreciate women's physicality. They don't appreciate our anatomy. They don't appreciate our emotional health. number. They don't appreciate our nurturing instinct. They think that in order to be considered valuable, you have to meet every standard that a man meets. Now you tell me that you are all about empowering women while stripping them of everything that makes them women and demanding that they perform exactly the same way that a man does. Piss off. Tired of it. The most ignorant women hating people I've ever seen have been feminists. I told my sons, don't you ever bring me a damn feminist home. Don't you dare walk one of them women through my door. I'll get out dad's power hose. I'll wash her off my stoop. I'm not even dealing with it. Not even. Not even. Unless she's converting. And then, all right then, you know. But I get so aggravated about this. And they try to make like, look women, here's a place where you're not equal. What? What are you talking about? There's a lot of inequality out there. Men can't have babies. A man will never know what it is like to physically actually push life out into this world. We'll never know what that's like. I feel bad for men for that. Oh, sure. It's grueling. Oh, don't tell me I didn't have any. All I had, I did not have an epidural with my first child because as my grandmother said, I was stupid. I was bringing a child into the world that had a head size in the 99th percentile. Our family has big babies, all right? We are tall people, a hearty people. And my grandmother looked at me, her eyes gaped open. She's like, are you stupid? That's what she said to me. I was like, geez, gran, thanks. Don't kill me in my sleep, thanks. But they did give me Demerol. I don't think they give you Demerol anymore. By the way, I think, Cain, that's like the closest to being high that I've ever been was Demerol. I remember sitting in the hospital bed and I'm like, I need to not speak because I have no idea what's going to come out of my mouth. But I didn't care about the pain anymore. Second one I did. And I had huge kids. And men will never understand that journey, right? And it's a tough journey. And it is an edifying journey. And it is a journey that both humbles you and also makes you aware of your own power as a woman. And men don't get it. And even if you weren't able to have a child or you chose to adopt, women have a nurturing instinct that men do not have. That's not an insult to men. That's just one of the strengths that women have. And see, you can say stuff like this and men don't get offended. They're like, yeah, that's true. Women need to stop being offended over this stuff. Guys do that. Men and women each contribute incredibly important things during the growth, the birth, the growth, the raising of a child, obviously. And I'm so tired of that being eliminated for this false claim of equality. You're actually disqualifying very qualified people, very qualified things by doing this. So I'm seeing this back to this Joni Ernst thing about the draft. I'm disappointed whenever I see female Republican lawmakers get into this and they bite into all this. You know, bring value. Like she had said in one point, bring value to the unit. The talent needs to, you know, all this. And this is all about the head. The people are dropping oppo about her. I've known this about Ernst for a while. I mean, she's a nice lady. We don't agree on everything. But I'm tired of people talking like this. I'm tired of the politics speak. All you got to do is be like, no, I'm not getting in this argument. Either you want to kick ass and be a part of something greater than yourself, or you don't. We don't have time for everybody to fly their individual flags. Nobody cares. Nobody cares what you ate for breakfast. Nobody cares what you're doing behind closed doors. Nobody cares. But when you're in this unit, you're part of the unit or you're out. We don't care about any of this other stuff. Who you sleep with does not make you kick ass better. It does not make you more lethal. But it can deter from it if it's a distraction. No distractions. And then there are people who get butt hurt because you're like, are you calling my sexual preference a distraction? Yes, I am. Absolutely. No one cares. Only you love yourself that much. We don't. Stop it. So I get aggravated when I see lawmakers get into this type of stuff. But they're all mad over the Hegseth thing because Hegseth said what he said about women in combat. Look, I don't care what happens with DOD. I mean, I do, obviously, but this is a choice that Trump is going to have to make. I think he probably is going to want to say something sooner rather than later. Because here's what's going to happen. The longer this goes on, the more of these lawmakers that aren't stepping up and backing him, you're going to have Oppo come out. We're going to go into a midterm election cycle. And all this Oppo is going to... And then it's just all going to be a feast for the left that's desperately trying to find some way to reestablish themselves after they were beaten half to death, politically speaking. So... You know, there's no reason to drag this out. There's no reason why it should take this long to make it. I'm very much like sit down. Who's the best person for the job? Who's going to go in there? They're going to have to gut DOD. You're going to have to throw your weight around and you're going to have to be a patent level jack wagon, a patent level jack wagon. I love George Patton. God rest his soul. One of the greatest men who's ever lived. I'm a huge World War II history buff. And I am obsessed, not just with the Pacific theater, but also everything Patton did in World War II and how he got in trouble because he slapped a subordinate. I said he was being a coward, et cetera. And then they gave the command to Omar Bradley. And then they told Patton that he was going to be able to get You know, come into the third back. If he helped do some stuff for the military, go around, do some rah rah, you know, good field time stuff and then take over the ghost army so that they can trick out the Nazis, which they did. They were able to get across the Rhine and boom, there it goes. So, you know, he's got a great story. You need that kind of bravado. You need leaders. You need people who are unafraid of others opinions of themselves. And they are confident in what they know that needs to be done. And they can go in and get it done. Because DOD is going to be less about combat. And it's going to be more about combating the people who think they know combat. Does that make sense? I've had a lot of conversations in the past couple of weeks with people in the military about some of this stuff. And you're dealing with an entrenched bureaucracy that takes a certain type of person and a certain type of technique to get rid of it. It'll be interesting to see. But I think he's going to have to make that call here sooner rather than later.
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Welcome back to the program. I was having a conversation with one of our really good listeners, our longtime listeners, and they were saying that... And I thought they made a good point. He was saying that... He doesn't partake. We're talking about the THC thing with Texas. He doesn't partake, and he hates people who make getting high their personality, which I find insufferable also. But he was talking about Oregon legalizing all drugs. They saw it was a bad idea, culture of indulgence. They walked it back. I think that the THC thing, regulation of that, is way different than legalizing all drugs. But the way that I view it is that I think you're always going to have an issue in society with vices. And I think that the severity of that is determined by cultural rot. Because when people themselves could not refrain from indulging to the point of excess, they farmed out the responsibility of restraint to the government. That's kind of how I view it. And we're always going to have an issue with that. But like I said, the severity... is determined by how bad off your society is. Remember, the founders always talked about virtue. They said that that was the most important thing in a free society was virtue and education. Virtue and education, virtue and education. You cannot have a virtuous person come to lead people who are not virtuous themselves. You're not going to get virtuous policies from a non-virtuous people. But it requires a lot of personal responsibility. And the issue really isn't so much with people eschewing freedom. They're eschewing personal responsibility without realizing that that goes hand in hand with freedom. Today's stupidity came. What do we got?
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All right. It is a Texas rep, Jasmine Crockett. I don't even know what to say about this to set it up.
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Oh, boy. Oh, gosh.
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Just hit everybody with this.
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Listen.
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We know that when it comes to minority populations, they tend to be undercounted. So get this. We added 4 million people. They were people of color. Okay. Texas got two new seats. So they took those black and brown and Asian bodies.
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What?
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And guess what? Do you think that we got a new black, brown, or Asian seat?
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Yeah, we did.
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Somehow, the way that they do their Republican math in the state of Texas, that amounted to two new white seats. Oh, come on.
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Oh, I didn't realize that it's all about. Oh, gosh. She is not the sharpest tool in the drawer. Folks, I'll be back with you tomorrow. God bless.
In this episode, we explore the growing controversy over potential preemptive pardons by President Biden, diving deep into what such a move could mean for the political landscape. With high-profile names like Adam Schiff and Dr. Fauci in the mix, we discuss the implications of issuing pardons before charges are brought, examining past precedents and how they may inform current political strategies. We also tackle the concept of de-weaponizing federal agencies, evaluating past actions by the FBI and DOJ and contemplating a future where these institutions operate unbiasedly.
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Report today on Sekulow that Biden could pardon Adam Schiff, Dr. Fauci and Liz Cheney.
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And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. All right, folks, welcome to Sekulow. We're taking your calls at 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. You heard that right. Now, this is something, it's got to get the left, right, going, I don't know, I mean, to the point of their hardest line conspiracy theories, because you've got the Biden White House, and this is out in Politico, so this is not out in Fox News, this is not out in Newsmax, or just coming from us or some, or X, but in Politico, that... The Biden White House is discussing preemptive pardons. Now remember we talked about issues in the past about could a president pardon themselves for kind of preemptively like for everything they did as president even if there had been no charges brought against them and there had been that kind of discussion President Trump didn't end up doing that and by the way he had lots of charges brought against him now the federal charges are dropping the state charges are falling apart as well we'll talk about that today but this idea that the left believes because we want to de-weaponize de-weaponize the Department of Justice and the FBI and law enforcement so that they don't have the perception or the belief or the actual facts. I mean, we've had the people testify. We've had the whistleblowers. We represent them. We know that the people that were put inside the radical traditionalist Catholic churches, they put inside FBI informants inside those churches. So to de-weaponize, the left feels like, Well, they may actually file lawsuits, not against bad actors at the FBI that they're worried about, but politicians and former politicians. So people like Adam Schiff or government employees like Dr. Fauci. for not disclosing certain ties and kind of having these battles again and some of this I think by the way is trying to get President Trump to refight battles that you don't need to fight again it's almost like will you go here will you look at this and say hey could we file a lawsuit against Liz Cheney can we do that I mean the fact is they're making this up there is no
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basis for what you say we want to de-weaponize that to de-weaponize the fbi you're going to weaponize the fbi against democrats yeah i think this is a interesting time because i looked at x last night and this started a report started coming in about this the idea of pardoning all of these people and honestly just due to the list of the names i kind of disregarded it i was like this feels like just a viral x post that some you know account posted and it got some traction and all of a sudden some celebrities started posting it and People started sharing it. And then now we wake up to legit reports that this is on the table. It is a wild time to think that this would be the situation where you could go in preemptively, pardon people based on potential previous crimes. It's a mess. But of course, we saw the reaction to Hunter Biden, and I'm sure they think this could be a time where you could just do the same.
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Well, and I think it also sets a dangerous precedent if they are to do this, that the pardon power, while the president has vast pardon power, most people don't think of it as something where you're issuing basically immunity for things that may or may not have happened. But that was also what you saw in the Hunter Biden pardon. was it went back to 2014 and it was very vague. It wasn't very targeted at the gun charge and the tax trial he's facing. It was wide open. And it's almost like a preview of what they're talking about. This is out of Politico that Biden aides are deeply concerned about a range of current and former officials who could find themselves facing inquiries. So they're talking about these blanket potential pardons for members of the White House and the political sphere that are on the left. And we talked about those top three names, but they're also looking at if they were to do this, it could be vast with aides, people underneath that you don't even know their names.
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Right. So... pardon power that they heavily criticize they're now you know criticizing their own president president biden for the use of hunter biden do it doing using one for hunter biden that was very broad as well i think went back to 2014. now they're stuck with do we need preemptive pardons and of course it's always president trump who's criticized about this stay with us 1-800-684-31 to join us on the show share it with your friends and family we'll be right back All right, welcome back to Secular. A lot of people are asking questions. We'll start getting to those, too. We'll start taking them on air. I see some of you writing in those questions. Some of those are coming in through the phones. We'll take them in a minute. But the idea is these reports all over the place now... that the White House and the Biden administration is thinking about these preemptive pardons and they named some high-profile people two who were on the January 6th committee Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney and then they also named Fauci so for those would be for various different things you know of course President Trump a lot of this remember the information they were sharing was they were saying that they were doing it in a partisan way and they weren't actually letting people see all the evidence it was one-sided with the January 6th committee I don't know exactly what charge you would bring against them but this is not really about that this is the left trying to scare the American people about President Trump's FBI being reformed so that it's no longer weaponized and I think what they're scared about and how long have we talked about for just the last four years that this FBI has become weaponized against pro-lifers, conservatives, Donald Trump and anyone associated with him if they could get anything charged they even went too far most people believe on what happened with most actors on January 6th with these people getting 20 and 30 year jail terms so to de-weaponize the FBI you would think would be the opposite of bringing criminal charges against politicians and former politicians and instead saying that was wrong then it's also wrong now and in the future we're going to actually focus on actual criminal behavior now if inside the department of justice You could show that there were attorneys like what was happening under the Mueller investigation. You saw those investigations go and that anything was improper there, but we had a special counsel look into that and they got one prosecution done over the guy who edited the email and it was not, I mean, those didn't go very far. So I think it's kind of like, let's look towards the future. We either have to get rid of these institutions or reform them? Because we have to have something like a Department of Justice and an FBI in a country our size. We have to have a federal law enforcement agency. Is it that the FBI is beyond repair? People have talked about that with the IRS. There's a new IRS commissioner that's been announced. This is a business guy. He also wants to come in and streamline the IRS and think... Hey, is the IRS really doing its job, which is to really be helping the American people follow the rules, file their taxes on time in a way that's simple enough that you don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to file your taxes, to pay your taxes so that you don't then get a bigger tax bills because most Americans are just trying to follow the rules. They are not, they are not criminals. They just want to follow the law. and the law has become so complicated that you can't really do that on your own and even if you use an outside specialist you have to be concerned that they're not even doing it right on their own. So I think there's a lot of issues inside this idea when we talk about a weaponized government than when you talk about de-weaponizing it. And you're not going to be able to de-weaponize it by going after Democrats. Republicans going after Democrats, that's just going to be continuing to weaponize law enforcement and there'll be just that much more lack of faith in the institutions. I think what you really have here is that the left and Democrats, and let's just say Washington, D.C. as a whole, let's go bigger than just Democrats, they thought they were going to win this election. They thought the move to take Joe Biden out was all they had to do, that Kamala Harris would be historic, that even though she wasn't that great of a candidate, the fact that she would be the first woman, first black woman, so you add these things to it, she was going to just waltz her way to the White House. And not only did it didn't happen, this race, unlike what many of us were...
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hoping didn't happen but preparing for was done very early and very quickly even though California still took until yesterday to finally certify some of them I'm looking at some of the comments a lot of people are commenting very similar questions and even our calls are leaning that way so I'm going to take a call because we have some answers a lot of you have questions specifically about pardon power what does that look like and how does it even get put in place but we know because Will pulled this up that the groundwork has been laid in the Hunter Biden Let's go ahead and take a call. Let's go to Michael who's calling in Florida on line three. Michael, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Michael.
SPEAKER 05 :
Gentlemen, I thought that the spirit or reason for a pardon was to pardon someone who was either already found guilty or convicted of a crime. If we're pardoning someone beforehand, are they not basically admitting to guilt?
SPEAKER 07 :
Michael, I think the idea would be... That was brought up in the article. The one reason they may do this kind of quietly and go to people and say, would you like this? Because they do believe that there are a lot of individuals that would not accept the pardon because of what you just said, Michael. A pardon does imply... that you've committed criminal conduct usually it's that you've been convicted or that you're about to be convicted of criminal conduct and maybe you've been sentenced and so you'll be released maybe you haven't been sentenced yet but the idea here is that there will be a lot of these individuals that we're hearing about and by the way these are the ones who again are the bigger names that could afford to defend themselves And I feel like that would look like a political target. They would say no to this anyways. But the idea that they're testing the theory. Remember, they said that a presidential self-pardon would be going too far. Now they're going further than that by saying, can you pre-pardon?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and what many on the left or in kind of the Washington think tank world, like the Brookings Institution, note that... Pardons don't need to follow convictions but can be issued before or during criminal prosecution. The rationale for so-called preemptive pardons is there's no point in requiring someone to live in fear of conviction or going through trial. And they even point to Gerald Ford pardoning President Nixon before there was a criminal case or thing actually established.
SPEAKER 07 :
That may establish it, right? there.
SPEAKER 09 :
But then you also look at the way that Joe Biden wrote the pardon for his son. A full and unconditional pardon for those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1st 2014 through December 1st 2024 including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted by the special counsel. So it was it mentions those but makes it clear It's way broader. It's anything that he did or may have done. And I think that's the type of language you would see if they were to go forward with these type of preemptive pardons to leave it vague and say anything they may or may not have done that's an offense against the United States.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, this is, again, we can go to Bill in Wyoming, too, because he's got a question on this as well. I think it's important to answer these questions for people. They are putting this front and center in the news. Of course, Hunter Biden did that to an extent, and now they're taking it steps further. Hey, Bill, welcome to Seculo. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, thanks. I think he partially answered my first part of the question about preemptive pardoning. But I understand from you guys that read your email where there is a possible attempt to prevent President Trump from actually being able to have a pardon. That sounds kind of strange to me about trying to do something like that. How can they do that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think, again, the question here is when can you pardon? So can you pardon before a crime has been committed or crime has even been charged? And the answer is yes, I think you can. I mean, I don't think you have to have a criminal charge in the works to actually do that. And I think in Gerald Ford with President Nixon, it appeared that they would obviously there could be criminal charges coming after he was out of office and after he was impeached. But an impeachment doesn't protect you from other charges once you're removed from office. So because he left office, he granted him a pardon and no one questioned whether or not you should even be investigating anymore. That was done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so I think you're right. The precedent is set and the verbiage that was in the Hunter pardon really just says pretty much anything that happened over the 10 years that could have happened, might have happened, did happen, it's wiped away. as long as the federal has been wiped away. So I think that you could probably, Blake, do the same thing. Now, you're right. It is a political decision for some of these. But if they spin it as we're protecting you from a Trump White House that is going to unjustly go after you, then that makes the political spin a little easier for your own base.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think that you'd have to really think through taking something like this if you have much of a political future in mind, because as the callers are correct, a pardon is not a grant of reprieve. It does not mean you are not guilty. It's the opposite of that. It has nothing to do with your guilt or innocence. It doesn't wipe away that you were convicted. of a crime it just means you won't be suffering the sentencing yeah or the consequences the consequences of what could come from a prosecution if it's done before or the sentence that you were given that you will no longer have to serve so it's a little bit you know obviously this is only on federal issues and I think this is to some extent is to just scare members of Congress who are going to be doing these confirmation hearings into thinking that to de-weaponize an institution means that you have to weaponize it. And that is not the case. We just have to have a way in Washington to get bad actors out. It's something we've been working on at the ACLJ for a long time. This is an important time of year for us at the ACLJ. Your support this month sets our budget for really the entire year. It's how we set our budget so we know what we raised in December and with, again, doubling the impact of your donation, we can then budget out for the rest of next year. So this is a great time and really an important time for you to have your gift doubled through our Faith and Freedom year-end drive at ACLJ.org. If you're able to, become an ACLJ champion with a monthly recurring gift at ACLJ.org slash champions, and you'll take part in that. So I think the part in question, listen, people still have a lot of... And listen, I understand why. It's something unique in our Constitution. It's a unique power of the President of the United States specifically. I mean, it's right up. It's in Clause 2 of the... Section 2 of the Constitution and Article 2 of the Constitution, which lays out the powers of the President, and it only gives that power... of pardon power to the president of the United States and again it is limited to federal crimes and federal issues. We're about to talk about something too with the remaining cases against President Trump that are in state court and how that operates somewhat differently from at least the federal procedures that have said that you know a sitting president cannot be prosecuted so all those cases with Jack Smith are coming to a close and he's filing everything to basically bring those to a close, and how that interplays with what's going on in places like Georgia. So we'll get to that in a minute, but I do think we can play out a little bit more of this pardon issue and answer some more questions for you. Let's go to Jeff in North Carolina on Line 1. Hey, Jeff, welcome to Sekulow. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Just curious, does President Biden have the authority to pardon people
SPEAKER 07 :
a blanket pardon for all illegal immigrants is that possible to blanket pardon for all illegal immigrants now this this is interesting they're not citizens of the united states i don't know if that would come into play let me bring in harry hutchinson harry do you think that you could actually blanket pardon people for entering the country illegally though that wouldn't necessarily give them citizenship either i mean that would really just mean they couldn't be prosecuted for it i don't think it would stop them from being removed
SPEAKER 02 :
I think you're precisely right. You don't get citizenship from that. So you don't have a presumptive legal right to remain in the United States, even if you have entered the country legally. So, for instance, someone from France who, let's say, had a visa or there's an agreement between the French government and the American government. They could enter the United States legally, but nonetheless, the US government would have the right to remove them. So I don't think a presidential pardon with respect to illegal immigrants will necessarily prevent President Trump from removing them because they are no longer in this country legally.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah and I think also there what you've got is this all right so you've got a situation there where you might not be able to then be prosecuted for the charge But that doesn't mean that you can stay. So I think that's, again, I see why people are starting to look at it broadly. That's because of what President Biden did. Not because of President Trump. Well, it's because of President Biden issuing a pardon that goes for Hunter Biden that wasn't specific to the charges he was dealing with, even while President Biden was in office, but goes back to 2014. And then it says for anything that he might have, might have been, may have been, doesn't know if he was or not. I mean, it's so broad. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And the way that I read the Constitution, yeah, he could pardon someone who's not a U.S. citizen. It's not that it has to be a U.S. citizen to get a pardon. However, as you mentioned, it doesn't mean that that grants you a citizenship or even future immunity as well from things. And that's I know I've seen a lot of people asking that question, too. And I'll pose it to you, too, of that question. The pardon power is past looking. It's not a forward looking blanket immunity for anything you may do in the future. And the president's pardon power ends on January 20th of 2025 when he leaves office. But I think the concern that a lot of people have, and even on the left with how broad the Hunter Biden pardon was, and now this discussion we're seeing out of Politico that raises this question of just going through the government and giving these people pardons, does it set bad precedent for anyone? Because if they can then do that, And Biden can, which it is a very broad power. But if you're not using it necessarily responsibly and you're using it as a political weapon against your to be weaponized. Exactly. I think that's the more dangerous precedent here is making the world look at America as acting very banana republic ish.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that's what the pardon power to be the most important power of a president. I mean you want to kind of be a power that is used rarely and uniquely and it doesn't usually absolve the person who gets the pardon. Usually the person who gets the pardon was already seen in the eyes of the public as someone who was guilty. It is, again, it's, I think, tough to have that power and not use it for your son, which is why I think the White House was so out of step with Joe Biden. And it felt like a White House that was talking not on his behalf for the last two years, at least, of this White House, including removing him from the ticket, that really he wasn't being consulted. And by the way, you know what's interesting on this issue? It's all in the news, right? Guess who they haven't asked about doing this yet? Joe Biden. So they say in this article, though the White House counsel for Joe Biden has been involved in these discussions, so very high up in the legal chain at the White House, that Joe Biden himself has not been consulted about whether or not he would want to even consider offering these potential pardons to individuals in a pre- pre-criminal way. And again, I think there's a big concern that because they'd be preemptive, a lot of these politicians would say no. Now, is that the same if you're talking about some of these mid-level bad actors at the FBI or DOJ? Maybe not. And I think that's where it gets more troubling because those people Have to be cleaned up to de-weaponize government. And there may be legitimate crimes that occurred. And though you may prosecute some, it may actually just be a way to easier. And Harry, this is because we know how hard it is to remove federal bureaucrats once they're entrenched. And if you're a mid-level DC IRS or DC FBI or DOJ, you're pretty entrenched at that point. That at least if you want to de-weaponize the government, if you don't want to bring the criminal charges against them, maybe at least the idea that they have committed these crimes or could have committed these crimes is a way to remove them.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think that's absolutely correct. I think it's also important to keep in mind that Joe Biden is a particularly selfish guy, and a large number of commentators have suggested his pardon of his son was very selfish. It benefited Joe Biden, particularly with respect to Burisma and Ukraine. So the question becomes, will any of these proposed pardons actually benefit Joe Biden? And I think at the end of the day, the answer is no. So I'm not necessarily sure he will care whether Liz Cheney or James Comey or Fauci is indeed pardoned because the question becomes, does it benefit the Biden family?
SPEAKER 09 :
And Jordan, before we go to break here, it also shows you something about the people in the White House that were so concerned about President Trump being a threat to democracy, how little respect they have for our democracy, of being a strong democracy, and trusting our judicial system. If they believe...
SPEAKER 07 :
think they do yeah right they understand that the DOJ has been weaponized by them and that means it could be easily weaponized by Donald Trump and his team and that doesn't take many steps that's like one step all you do is say investigate these people we believe that they committed crimes um that uh that uh that would not be these acts would not be covered by their their position in congress that they did commit crimes that or they leaked information that was classified the list goes on um or for some of these prosecutors at the DOJ that what they did was improper and the way they used the information was improper. But again, if we want to de-weaponize, it does not mean that we're not going to have to get rid of or prosecute some actors inside the FBI and DOJ. But going after just big names to go after big names is not the way to de-weaponize a system for the long-term future. Support the work of the ACLJ. That's at ACLJ.org. Be part of our Faith and Freedom year-end drive. We need your donations today.
SPEAKER 08 :
keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, so lots of talk about pardons. We will see if we get to that level. I think, you know, when we talk about Hunter Biden's pardon, we go to the power of the president. We walk through that very specifically on the show. We're looking to see about these other preemptive pardons. I do think if you look at the pardon of Nixon by Gerald Ford, you see that there is precedent already for preemptive pardons. And no one at that time tried to challenge Nixon. that that I know of there may have been people that tried to bring lawsuits against President Nixon but once he left office I don't remember ever reading about anything moving anywhere past being dismissed immediately by a court so it does look like it would be possible to do this does that mean that it wouldn't be looked at by a court now and you know now that we're in to 2024 2025 no it doesn't so I think that again you have to take all this with a grain of salt and remember this is another kind of story showing you what's happening at this White House the moment Joe Biden leaves the country or Joe Biden's outside the White House. His team has got stories out that he has not even been consulted on. And Jordan, another thing... Because I think they're mad about what he did with Hunter Biden. I think his own team, the left and the Democrats, realize he created a precedent for Donald Trump in the future so that this, what happened to Donald Trump and his staff... Never happens again.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I think another point to bring out on this is that even the left that's saying he's abusing this power, really, if it were to somehow be challenged, I don't know, and I'm not the attorney, but it seems like it would be very hard to find someone who is standing to bring that challenge. And even if they did, and it made it all the way to the Supreme Court, this Supreme Court has been very generous with the interpretation of presidential power. We got that from the immunity ruling. And so you see that. And even if it did get all the way to the Supreme Court, challenging his wide sweeping pardons, I don't know that even if... There are some commentators that can make the point that maybe it went too far, that the Supreme Court would be inclined to put a limit on that presidential pardon power because it's pretty plain in the Constitution. The only thing he can't grant a pardon for is for impeachment because that's the political process. So people may be crying foul on the left. And I think that people like Karine Jean-Pierre may be pretty frustrated that she had to go out there and repeat that line. No, it will never happen so many times. But I don't know that there's any recourse for anyone to go back after the president and try to clean up the widespread usage if he chooses to go down that road.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I think that, listen, I think after that, it was all bets are off. And this White House, again, they're not even consulting the president. He's the one that actually has the power. I guess they're kind of come up with, what do we give him a briefing on this? And should we actually recommend this to the president of the United States before he leaves office? on january 20th usually these come on uh you know very late the day on january 19th uh where these kind of more controversial pardons get issued but they would have to approach people i don't think they want a bunch of people offered pardons by the president who then say no no i don't need a pardon because i didn't do anything wrong or illegal i'm not worried about like that i just uh called for investigations into something. And the people who made the decisions about that are the ones who have to follow the law the right way. 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be on the broadcast with us. That's 1-800-684-3110. And Logan, this is really a key time for us at the ACLJ. We're fighting, and we're going to talk about it in just the next segment, to defend school choice in a major case. At the Supreme Court of Ohio, as you saw more states go red, we are seeing school choice programs be broadened out. But we're seeing the teachers unions try to fight back with creative ways like, well, we can't pick your kid up because that's going to cost us too much money. And if we send buses, so there's no way to actually get the student who qualifies for school choice to school without putting a burden on the parents.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. CC High House Senior Counsel is going to be joining us in the next segment. You're going to want to stay tuned for that. It's always good for you to have an understanding of all the work the ACLJ is doing on the individual level, on the big level. But we can't do any of it without your help and support. So I encourage you right now, during this Faith and Freedom year-end drive where all gifts are doubled, as we fight to defend the rights of students... and so many in the pro-life community. We got so much going on. I can't wait to show all of it to you and so much of it we can't even talk about yet. We need your support. Go to ACLJ.org right now and become an ACLJ champion if you can. That's someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis. Be right back.
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back to SecU. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. So if you're hanging on, we will get you. We've got a couple of ACLJ cases to update you on. CeCe Hallis joining us. It's CeCe, one out of Columbus, Ohio. This, again, involving school choice and students who are not being the bus situation, which is supposed to be covered by the school choice law. law that you could get that transportation if you need it to the school of your choice and in Columbus Ohio the school district saying we can't do that the they tried to come in and have this case dismissed and it was they were not successful we move on now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so like you said, the Ohio law, there is a law in Ohio that says school districts have to provide transportation for any student within their district. And that means even private schools or religious schools. And that's our client has students that go to a private Christian school. And the law goes on to say that not only does the school district need to provide that transportation to all these students, that if... They decide that they cannot because they're outside the district or they don't comply with the certain regulations. They are mandated. The law goes on to mandate that in that interim decision time when the parents are appealing the school. district has to provide interim transportation. So that's where we are. Our clients have been denied transportation. They've appealed. There's a long administrative process. The law requires that transportation, interim transportation be provided. So we filed a writ of mandamus in the Ohio Supreme Court. And that's just a fancy way to say that the court needs to compel the government to do a specific thing. And here it is compelling the school board to provide the interim transportation. And like you said, the school board filed a motion to dismiss. The court just denied that. So the case goes forward. On December 16th, we have to submit evidence. And by December 26th, we have to provide a brief on the merits. So like we say all the time, just because it's a holiday event, We've got Christmas coming. We've got New Year's coming. The ACLJ will still be working defending these parents' rights to have transportation under this Ohio law.
SPEAKER 07 :
To me, this is like the last and we have another one of these cases actually come in recently. We're reviewing it right now, but it's another transportation case. and it's like another way these teachers unions and school districts are seeing that when school choice laws are passed especially what we're seeing now is they're being broadened so more people are eligible than were before usually it started out as something you had to have like maybe meet a certain economic condition or special need that you the school could provide and now it's getting broader and broader to the idea that school choice should be available to every taxpayer because everyone's paying for these public schools
SPEAKER 10 :
so their next the next way they try to make this difficult for parents is say we can't pick your kid up yeah and and it actually and they actually tried to get this dismissed i mean they wanted to walk in say it just shows you how little they care about the kids right and how much they care about their own power and it actually affected more than our client there were over a thousand students that actually were denied transportation and so the ohio attorney general has also filed a similar lawsuit and we're working in tandem with that because This school board, the Columbus School Board, is not following the law.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Jordan, this is another interesting and tragic fact of this, is that in the school board's motion to dismiss, so when they asked the Supreme Court of Ohio to throw out the case, They said that the law imposes a penalty on school districts that fail to provide this. Now, this is, you know, the capital district of of the state of Ohio. So it's not a rural district that they can't necessarily get this together. But they argued not that we haven't violated the law. but that the law has a penalty in it and if we pay that we're covered so effectively they choose to waste taxpayer money paying a penalty that they know that they have to pay because they're not following the law instead of providing students with the mandated transportation that the law covers so once again you talk about the power of the teachers unions and and the rights of students not being taken seriously or as of the utmost importance they even argued to the court that hey yeah we know that we're supposed to be doing this but we'll just pay the fine instead of helping the kids and Fortunately, the Supreme Court of Ohio denied the motion to dismiss so it can go forward as a case. But just that alone, that the school board would argue to the Supreme Court, we're going to waste money paying a fine instead of helping children.
SPEAKER 07 :
These kids to school, even though... They were given more money to actually enact this program. So the public school system, because of the bus system, was given more money, CC, under the school choice law so they could get these kids to school. And instead they say, nah, we just rather take all the taxpayer money we get. We get plenty of that. We'll just pay the fine courts. So there's no issue here.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I think that's why you see the attorney general there in Ohio getting involved because they see that this school board, the Columbus Board of Education, is violating a law, doing it willfully, and they need to, you know, make it right.
SPEAKER 07 :
A second case, this one involving life out of New Mexico. We've talked about this hospital. It was purchased, as we see lots of hospitals now, in consolidation. And these hospital workers... who had conscience protections at the hospital they were working at when the new hospital ownership came in got rid of those conscience protections and are required at the moment to perform abortions we're waiting right now the hospital's response but we've also got another client we've added another for a fourth client in this case at the same hospital who has realized now their conscience protections have been done away with by this new owner where does that stand?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. So in this case, we we actually have two issues going on. There's the federal laws that protect conscience rights. And we see that even the Supreme Court just recently reiterated that absolutely federal law protects the right of health care workers to be able to say they don't want to participate. in an abortion or assisted suicide or anything of that nature due to their religious beliefs, that that's absolutely protected under federal law. But there's also a Title VII claim, which is the religious accommodation claim that under their religious beliefs, our clients. The four health care workers there at the New Mexico hospital, you know, for religious beliefs, do not want to perform abortions or participate in any part of an abortion. And they should be allowed a religious accommodation. So we have gone forth. We're in the stage of they've requested the accommodations from the hospital. We're waiting for that response. If the response comes back and they don't grant the accommodation, then we have a title seven claim that we can. pursuing the federal courts. And we can also file with the Health and Human Services the complaint for the federal conscious violations.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, so it's these kind of new battles when you see the overturning of Roe versus Wade and then some states taking actions. that we're fighting these new conscious battles whether it's the school choice battles after again the Supreme Court opening the door for much more broad school choice programs across the country and then you've got to fight the cases that come from that because CC what happens whether they're they uh to call it a healthcare industry when you're talking about abortion but they won't they try to make money It's an industry, especially these ones that are buying and consolidating hospitals that were a lot of times in the past related to either religious institutions or nonprofit institutions to some extent, but could no longer afford to operate that way. So they had to sell to keep open. We've seen that fight. We've seen the fight on school choice be not now about whether or not you can actually choose the school because they've lost that fight. It's, well, we don't have to take you there. and so figure out how to get there on your own, even though many of the people that right now can take part in most school choice programs, though they are broadening out, still have requirements that have to be met. It's not always yet open to everyone. I think there are states that are opening it, and it sounded like this year through elections, to 60,000 and 70,000 more students that will be eligible in states. So it's certainly not everyone yet, but we are getting that direction. The... The teachers unions, the school boards, and the left, who has been able to use the public school system to kind of begin the indoctrination of students, and we've talked about parental rights so much these last four and five years, realize that when the parents are given the choice and the opportunity... What they're doing first is taking their kids out of these schools.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
They're not able to, even though they're given extra funds to try and compete because these schools go to the point of saying, well, if you're not going to go to our school, we'll pay a fine. of your taxpayer dollars rather than pick your kid up to go to a private school.
SPEAKER 10 :
And this is where you see the ACLJ is so important because, like you're saying, there are federal laws in place that have protections for schools, for hospitals, for conscience rights. There are state laws that have protections. Again, in Ohio, we see state laws, but then you will see local pushback. And in these two cases, you see it from a specific board of education, the Columbus Board of Education, or the specific hospital in New Mexico. And so even though there are laws on the books that protect these rights, the ACLJ still needs to step in and actually defend our clients' rights under these laws. And we will do that. And like I said, it'll be right through Christmas and the new year. We'll be working straight through.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know what, folks? This is our most critical month of the year. We're facing immense challenges. We know there's going to be a lot of legal work, attacks on faith, freedom from the radical left are increasing. These new proposals every day that we're hearing about from the left. But your support allows us to take on each of these challenges. Right now we're fighting to defend school choice, as you heard, in a major case at the Supreme Court of Ohio. That has ramifications for the whole country. Representing several ultrasound techs, again, who are told they have to violate their faith, violate their conscience and participate in abortions or go look for a job somewhere else. They can't work in the healthcare industry, can't work in a hospital if you won't kill a child in the womb. We're fighting for them. We're defending Israel against those unlawful arrest warrants by the ICC. Heard about it today, this idea that this will tar Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel's history because they will be treated as war criminals even if they are never actually ever taken to court, just like Nazis. We have to fight back on those issues, and we are. So support the work of the ACLJ this month. Donate today. Have that gift doubled. ACLJ.org. Your financial support is critical. Welcome back. We are taking your calls. Let's go to Ronald in South Carolina on line one. Again, talking about these issues involving pardons. We've talked about self-pardons. We've talked about preemptive pardons now. We've seen the pardon of Hunter Biden. There's talk about will there be preemptive pardons of other well-known Democrats by Joe Biden. Of course, one thing to note in here, Joe Biden they haven't even talked to about this because they don't really talk to him about things until I guess he either makes decisions. It's like the pardon decision on Hunter. He decided he didn't want to talk to any of them about either. But I think that was why this was a White House that did not work. and so they would go out and make statements like this would never happen and they had to go out you know what I always say as someone who's worked for a president before and on the legal side don't go out and say things that will never if things are legal things that the president has the power to do I don't think you should ever go out and say they will never do if they have the power and constitutional authority to do it you probably shouldn't preemptively go out and say there's no way 100% that you could ever change their mind on it
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and we have Ronald still, right? Ronald, you're there in South Carolina. Go ahead with your question or comment. I'm not sure if we do have a problem. Let's put him back on hold and see if we can get to him. Let's make sure he's good. There's a lot happening right now also with this year-end drive, and I really want to encourage you all to take a minute while we get those phone calls cleared up to support the work of the ACLJ. If you're watching right now, scan the QR code. If you can't support financially, we understand, and what I encourage you to do, an easy way to support the ACLJ, if you're watching on YouTube or Rumble, subscribe. If you're watching on X, you know, follow, do those kinds of things. Those are free ways that you can help support us. Over 446,000 people alone on YouTube have subscribed to our channel. And we know that about half the people that watch our broadcast each and every day don't subscribe. So I'm looking at you. right now. If you're watching this right now and you haven't hit subscribe, hit the subscribe button right now. We know we'd appreciate it. And if you already have, hit the thumbs up. All those things help make sure that your message gets into the hands of more and more people. It helps us get within the algorithm so new people who have never seen the ACLJ, who have never seen this broadcast, see it. We know thousands do each and every day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and this is, again, important to do. And like Logan said, it's important to do because by you, it's important that you come and you've figured out how to come and watch even if you haven't subscribed. But if you subscribe, they look and they say, okay, this kind of person subscribed. We should send out this show to more people like this person. Absolutely. And that makes sense then that people like you would also want this information and these discussions. So when they see on the news in five minutes that there's this talk of preemptive pardons, well, let's go into a discussion with actual attorneys who have gone through these presidential power issues and can actually talk to you about this stuff in an honest way, not in a partisan way. Notice we didn't just come out and say, if he does this, you know, put him in jail, right? We actually went through and said, well, let's think through this. There might not be a ton of precedent, but there's one. Pretty big one. The pardoning of Nixon. Yeah, a pretty big one. And if you, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not true. And I think people sometimes think, well, he's a president and that was known that he was going to get prosecuted. Well, then you could say that for a senator.
SPEAKER 06 :
You could easily say that for a... You could say that, honestly, at this point, you could say that just about anybody.
SPEAKER 07 :
Anybody involved in the political fight feels like you could be a target of the weaponization of law enforcement, which is why the goal of the Trump administration, and it's a big goal to get there in four years, But the goal is that the American people on both sides of the aisle and no aisle at all have faith again in our legal system. That doesn't mean, again, that you love the fact that the IRS is going to audit you occasionally or that the FBI doesn't sometimes get things wrong. But that generally speaking, they are trying to do the right thing and not the wrong thing. And they're certainly not doing it because of politics. That's where we're trying to get to. And if we can't get there, we're going to have to change the systems entirely. And that's going to take more than four years, and that's going to take an even bigger type of election over multiple election cycles if we want to see those reforms done.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Jordan, I think we should play this bite as we wrap up the show today. This is from Jill Winebanks, who was a prosecutor during the Watergate scandal at the Department of Justice. She was one of the individuals looking into this on that team. And here's what she had to say about, one, she's coming off talking about the Hunter Biden pardon, but also looking forward to potential preemptive pardons. And I'm curious if... She would have said the same thing about President Gerald Ford after Nixon stepped down if she had the same feelings back then. But let's go ahead and play bite six.
SPEAKER 01 :
It is really appropriate for a grant of clemency. I hope that President Biden will also issue preemptive pardons to all of those people threatened by the injustice of what will become the Department of Justice in the Trump administration. That, of course, includes Jack Smith and all of his staff. many Department of Justice lawyers. It includes President Biden himself, although we don't know that anyone can legally pardon themselves. He will need a pardon because he is going to be harassed and charged for no crimes whatsoever. Donald Trump has promised that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I saw President Biden and President Trump in the Oval Office smiling. I don't think on the top of President Trump's list is, I'm going to go prosecute an 80-year-old former president who I didn't even get to run against because he did so bad in the debate that I didn't get a chance to beat him the second time, who's obviously no longer consulting with his staff and probably had no control over the DOJ either and all of these individuals. because you see that he did exactly the opposite move of what his staff was telling you for three years about Hunter Biden when that stuff starts happening you start thinking you know what this is not about Joe Biden anymore and why does Jack Smith need a pardon preemptive what did he do illegal I mean if he did things illegal in a prosecution of a former president I'd like to see the case move forward. Because we do have to de-weaponize the government. And that has to mean that prosecutors can't feel like they are God. And that the rules don't apply to them. That the rules of justice. And remember, we're still keeping this in the federal system. This isn't going to reform the New York DA's office. This isn't going to reform Georgia DA's office. But there are cases going on about that. We'll talk about that too. Probably tomorrow on the broadcast and get to it today. But... At the end of the day, what we have to stick with over these next four years is one, being very careful about prosecuting people just because you don't like their politics and you think that they were too heavy-handed in their dislike or distrust of their politics against Donald Trump. Look deep into the bureaucracy. That's truly where the bad actors are. The leakers, the ones who have potentially altered evidence. Whoever scattered those classified document pictures, I'd like to know who that was. And is this normal practice for them that they do against American citizens who don't have the power of the President of the United States? Because if it is, and they go into your house, and they always make you look like you're a criminal with the pieces of paper that you have, even though you didn't know those pieces of paper were even there, and it makes you like you keep it in a toilet, and all those things. Those people probably deserve to be investigated. That does not mean they should be prosecuted, but it might. Because if you don't do any of those actions, how are you going to de-weaponize? So you don't focus on the big names. If you do that, you're just continuing to weaponize the government. That means whoever's in charge will prosecute the high profile people who are in charge the next time. You look at the actors inside, the people... with their hands on the evidence, the people who decided, let's scatter the documents around and take a picture so that President Trump has to come out and say, that is not what this ever looked like, and make it look like it was this mess or disaster, when in fact, it was not. Support the work of the ACLJ. Logan, again, a critical time. It is how we budget for the entire 2025. It's where we start and where we are in December at the end of the month.
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