In this episode, we explore the growing controversy over potential preemptive pardons by President Biden, diving deep into what such a move could mean for the political landscape. With high-profile names like Adam Schiff and Dr. Fauci in the mix, we discuss the implications of issuing pardons before charges are brought, examining past precedents and how they may inform current political strategies. We also tackle the concept of de-weaponizing federal agencies, evaluating past actions by the FBI and DOJ and contemplating a future where these institutions operate unbiasedly.
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Report today on Sekulow that Biden could pardon Adam Schiff, Dr. Fauci and Liz Cheney.
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And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. All right, folks, welcome to Sekulow. We're taking your calls at 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. You heard that right. Now, this is something, it's got to get the left, right, going, I don't know, I mean, to the point of their hardest line conspiracy theories, because you've got the Biden White House, and this is out in Politico, so this is not out in Fox News, this is not out in Newsmax, or just coming from us or some, or X, but in Politico, that... The Biden White House is discussing preemptive pardons. Now remember we talked about issues in the past about could a president pardon themselves for kind of preemptively like for everything they did as president even if there had been no charges brought against them and there had been that kind of discussion President Trump didn't end up doing that and by the way he had lots of charges brought against him now the federal charges are dropping the state charges are falling apart as well we'll talk about that today but this idea that the left believes because we want to de-weaponize de-weaponize the Department of Justice and the FBI and law enforcement so that they don't have the perception or the belief or the actual facts. I mean, we've had the people testify. We've had the whistleblowers. We represent them. We know that the people that were put inside the radical traditionalist Catholic churches, they put inside FBI informants inside those churches. So to de-weaponize, the left feels like, Well, they may actually file lawsuits, not against bad actors at the FBI that they're worried about, but politicians and former politicians. So people like Adam Schiff or government employees like Dr. Fauci. for not disclosing certain ties and kind of having these battles again and some of this I think by the way is trying to get President Trump to refight battles that you don't need to fight again it's almost like will you go here will you look at this and say hey could we file a lawsuit against Liz Cheney can we do that I mean the fact is they're making this up there is no
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basis for what you say we want to de-weaponize that to de-weaponize the fbi you're going to weaponize the fbi against democrats yeah i think this is a interesting time because i looked at x last night and this started a report started coming in about this the idea of pardoning all of these people and honestly just due to the list of the names i kind of disregarded it i was like this feels like just a viral x post that some you know account posted and it got some traction and all of a sudden some celebrities started posting it and People started sharing it. And then now we wake up to legit reports that this is on the table. It is a wild time to think that this would be the situation where you could go in preemptively, pardon people based on potential previous crimes. It's a mess. But of course, we saw the reaction to Hunter Biden, and I'm sure they think this could be a time where you could just do the same.
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Well, and I think it also sets a dangerous precedent if they are to do this, that the pardon power, while the president has vast pardon power, most people don't think of it as something where you're issuing basically immunity for things that may or may not have happened. But that was also what you saw in the Hunter Biden pardon. was it went back to 2014 and it was very vague. It wasn't very targeted at the gun charge and the tax trial he's facing. It was wide open. And it's almost like a preview of what they're talking about. This is out of Politico that Biden aides are deeply concerned about a range of current and former officials who could find themselves facing inquiries. So they're talking about these blanket potential pardons for members of the White House and the political sphere that are on the left. And we talked about those top three names, but they're also looking at if they were to do this, it could be vast with aides, people underneath that you don't even know their names.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So... pardon power that they heavily criticize they're now you know criticizing their own president president biden for the use of hunter biden do it doing using one for hunter biden that was very broad as well i think went back to 2014. now they're stuck with do we need preemptive pardons and of course it's always president trump who's criticized about this stay with us 1-800-684-31 to join us on the show share it with your friends and family we'll be right back All right, welcome back to Secular. A lot of people are asking questions. We'll start getting to those, too. We'll start taking them on air. I see some of you writing in those questions. Some of those are coming in through the phones. We'll take them in a minute. But the idea is these reports all over the place now... that the White House and the Biden administration is thinking about these preemptive pardons and they named some high-profile people two who were on the January 6th committee Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney and then they also named Fauci so for those would be for various different things you know of course President Trump a lot of this remember the information they were sharing was they were saying that they were doing it in a partisan way and they weren't actually letting people see all the evidence it was one-sided with the January 6th committee I don't know exactly what charge you would bring against them but this is not really about that this is the left trying to scare the American people about President Trump's FBI being reformed so that it's no longer weaponized and I think what they're scared about and how long have we talked about for just the last four years that this FBI has become weaponized against pro-lifers, conservatives, Donald Trump and anyone associated with him if they could get anything charged they even went too far most people believe on what happened with most actors on January 6th with these people getting 20 and 30 year jail terms so to de-weaponize the FBI you would think would be the opposite of bringing criminal charges against politicians and former politicians and instead saying that was wrong then it's also wrong now and in the future we're going to actually focus on actual criminal behavior now if inside the department of justice You could show that there were attorneys like what was happening under the Mueller investigation. You saw those investigations go and that anything was improper there, but we had a special counsel look into that and they got one prosecution done over the guy who edited the email and it was not, I mean, those didn't go very far. So I think it's kind of like, let's look towards the future. We either have to get rid of these institutions or reform them? Because we have to have something like a Department of Justice and an FBI in a country our size. We have to have a federal law enforcement agency. Is it that the FBI is beyond repair? People have talked about that with the IRS. There's a new IRS commissioner that's been announced. This is a business guy. He also wants to come in and streamline the IRS and think... Hey, is the IRS really doing its job, which is to really be helping the American people follow the rules, file their taxes on time in a way that's simple enough that you don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to file your taxes, to pay your taxes so that you don't then get a bigger tax bills because most Americans are just trying to follow the rules. They are not, they are not criminals. They just want to follow the law. and the law has become so complicated that you can't really do that on your own and even if you use an outside specialist you have to be concerned that they're not even doing it right on their own. So I think there's a lot of issues inside this idea when we talk about a weaponized government than when you talk about de-weaponizing it. And you're not going to be able to de-weaponize it by going after Democrats. Republicans going after Democrats, that's just going to be continuing to weaponize law enforcement and there'll be just that much more lack of faith in the institutions. I think what you really have here is that the left and Democrats, and let's just say Washington, D.C. as a whole, let's go bigger than just Democrats, they thought they were going to win this election. They thought the move to take Joe Biden out was all they had to do, that Kamala Harris would be historic, that even though she wasn't that great of a candidate, the fact that she would be the first woman, first black woman, so you add these things to it, she was going to just waltz her way to the White House. And not only did it didn't happen, this race, unlike what many of us were...
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hoping didn't happen but preparing for was done very early and very quickly even though California still took until yesterday to finally certify some of them I'm looking at some of the comments a lot of people are commenting very similar questions and even our calls are leaning that way so I'm going to take a call because we have some answers a lot of you have questions specifically about pardon power what does that look like and how does it even get put in place but we know because Will pulled this up that the groundwork has been laid in the Hunter Biden Let's go ahead and take a call. Let's go to Michael who's calling in Florida on line three. Michael, you're on the air.
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Hey, Michael.
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Gentlemen, I thought that the spirit or reason for a pardon was to pardon someone who was either already found guilty or convicted of a crime. If we're pardoning someone beforehand, are they not basically admitting to guilt?
SPEAKER 07 :
Michael, I think the idea would be... That was brought up in the article. The one reason they may do this kind of quietly and go to people and say, would you like this? Because they do believe that there are a lot of individuals that would not accept the pardon because of what you just said, Michael. A pardon does imply... that you've committed criminal conduct usually it's that you've been convicted or that you're about to be convicted of criminal conduct and maybe you've been sentenced and so you'll be released maybe you haven't been sentenced yet but the idea here is that there will be a lot of these individuals that we're hearing about and by the way these are the ones who again are the bigger names that could afford to defend themselves And I feel like that would look like a political target. They would say no to this anyways. But the idea that they're testing the theory. Remember, they said that a presidential self-pardon would be going too far. Now they're going further than that by saying, can you pre-pardon?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and what many on the left or in kind of the Washington think tank world, like the Brookings Institution, note that... Pardons don't need to follow convictions but can be issued before or during criminal prosecution. The rationale for so-called preemptive pardons is there's no point in requiring someone to live in fear of conviction or going through trial. And they even point to Gerald Ford pardoning President Nixon before there was a criminal case or thing actually established.
SPEAKER 07 :
That may establish it, right? there.
SPEAKER 09 :
But then you also look at the way that Joe Biden wrote the pardon for his son. A full and unconditional pardon for those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1st 2014 through December 1st 2024 including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted by the special counsel. So it was it mentions those but makes it clear It's way broader. It's anything that he did or may have done. And I think that's the type of language you would see if they were to go forward with these type of preemptive pardons to leave it vague and say anything they may or may not have done that's an offense against the United States.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, this is, again, we can go to Bill in Wyoming, too, because he's got a question on this as well. I think it's important to answer these questions for people. They are putting this front and center in the news. Of course, Hunter Biden did that to an extent, and now they're taking it steps further. Hey, Bill, welcome to Seculo. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, thanks. I think he partially answered my first part of the question about preemptive pardoning. But I understand from you guys that read your email where there is a possible attempt to prevent President Trump from actually being able to have a pardon. That sounds kind of strange to me about trying to do something like that. How can they do that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think, again, the question here is when can you pardon? So can you pardon before a crime has been committed or crime has even been charged? And the answer is yes, I think you can. I mean, I don't think you have to have a criminal charge in the works to actually do that. And I think in Gerald Ford with President Nixon, it appeared that they would obviously there could be criminal charges coming after he was out of office and after he was impeached. But an impeachment doesn't protect you from other charges once you're removed from office. So because he left office, he granted him a pardon and no one questioned whether or not you should even be investigating anymore. That was done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so I think you're right. The precedent is set and the verbiage that was in the Hunter pardon really just says pretty much anything that happened over the 10 years that could have happened, might have happened, did happen, it's wiped away. as long as the federal has been wiped away. So I think that you could probably, Blake, do the same thing. Now, you're right. It is a political decision for some of these. But if they spin it as we're protecting you from a Trump White House that is going to unjustly go after you, then that makes the political spin a little easier for your own base.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think that you'd have to really think through taking something like this if you have much of a political future in mind, because as the callers are correct, a pardon is not a grant of reprieve. It does not mean you are not guilty. It's the opposite of that. It has nothing to do with your guilt or innocence. It doesn't wipe away that you were convicted. of a crime it just means you won't be suffering the sentencing yeah or the consequences the consequences of what could come from a prosecution if it's done before or the sentence that you were given that you will no longer have to serve so it's a little bit you know obviously this is only on federal issues and I think this is to some extent is to just scare members of Congress who are going to be doing these confirmation hearings into thinking that to de-weaponize an institution means that you have to weaponize it. And that is not the case. We just have to have a way in Washington to get bad actors out. It's something we've been working on at the ACLJ for a long time. This is an important time of year for us at the ACLJ. Your support this month sets our budget for really the entire year. It's how we set our budget so we know what we raised in December and with, again, doubling the impact of your donation, we can then budget out for the rest of next year. So this is a great time and really an important time for you to have your gift doubled through our Faith and Freedom year-end drive at ACLJ.org. If you're able to, become an ACLJ champion with a monthly recurring gift at ACLJ.org slash champions, and you'll take part in that. So I think the part in question, listen, people still have a lot of... And listen, I understand why. It's something unique in our Constitution. It's a unique power of the President of the United States specifically. I mean, it's right up. It's in Clause 2 of the... Section 2 of the Constitution and Article 2 of the Constitution, which lays out the powers of the President, and it only gives that power... of pardon power to the president of the United States and again it is limited to federal crimes and federal issues. We're about to talk about something too with the remaining cases against President Trump that are in state court and how that operates somewhat differently from at least the federal procedures that have said that you know a sitting president cannot be prosecuted so all those cases with Jack Smith are coming to a close and he's filing everything to basically bring those to a close, and how that interplays with what's going on in places like Georgia. So we'll get to that in a minute, but I do think we can play out a little bit more of this pardon issue and answer some more questions for you. Let's go to Jeff in North Carolina on Line 1. Hey, Jeff, welcome to Sekulow. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Just curious, does President Biden have the authority to pardon people
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a blanket pardon for all illegal immigrants is that possible to blanket pardon for all illegal immigrants now this this is interesting they're not citizens of the united states i don't know if that would come into play let me bring in harry hutchinson harry do you think that you could actually blanket pardon people for entering the country illegally though that wouldn't necessarily give them citizenship either i mean that would really just mean they couldn't be prosecuted for it i don't think it would stop them from being removed
SPEAKER 02 :
I think you're precisely right. You don't get citizenship from that. So you don't have a presumptive legal right to remain in the United States, even if you have entered the country legally. So, for instance, someone from France who, let's say, had a visa or there's an agreement between the French government and the American government. They could enter the United States legally, but nonetheless, the US government would have the right to remove them. So I don't think a presidential pardon with respect to illegal immigrants will necessarily prevent President Trump from removing them because they are no longer in this country legally.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah and I think also there what you've got is this all right so you've got a situation there where you might not be able to then be prosecuted for the charge But that doesn't mean that you can stay. So I think that's, again, I see why people are starting to look at it broadly. That's because of what President Biden did. Not because of President Trump. Well, it's because of President Biden issuing a pardon that goes for Hunter Biden that wasn't specific to the charges he was dealing with, even while President Biden was in office, but goes back to 2014. And then it says for anything that he might have, might have been, may have been, doesn't know if he was or not. I mean, it's so broad. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And the way that I read the Constitution, yeah, he could pardon someone who's not a U.S. citizen. It's not that it has to be a U.S. citizen to get a pardon. However, as you mentioned, it doesn't mean that that grants you a citizenship or even future immunity as well from things. And that's I know I've seen a lot of people asking that question, too. And I'll pose it to you, too, of that question. The pardon power is past looking. It's not a forward looking blanket immunity for anything you may do in the future. And the president's pardon power ends on January 20th of 2025 when he leaves office. But I think the concern that a lot of people have, and even on the left with how broad the Hunter Biden pardon was, and now this discussion we're seeing out of Politico that raises this question of just going through the government and giving these people pardons, does it set bad precedent for anyone? Because if they can then do that, And Biden can, which it is a very broad power. But if you're not using it necessarily responsibly and you're using it as a political weapon against your to be weaponized. Exactly. I think that's the more dangerous precedent here is making the world look at America as acting very banana republic ish.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that's what the pardon power to be the most important power of a president. I mean you want to kind of be a power that is used rarely and uniquely and it doesn't usually absolve the person who gets the pardon. Usually the person who gets the pardon was already seen in the eyes of the public as someone who was guilty. It is, again, it's, I think, tough to have that power and not use it for your son, which is why I think the White House was so out of step with Joe Biden. And it felt like a White House that was talking not on his behalf for the last two years, at least, of this White House, including removing him from the ticket, that really he wasn't being consulted. And by the way, you know what's interesting on this issue? It's all in the news, right? Guess who they haven't asked about doing this yet? Joe Biden. So they say in this article, though the White House counsel for Joe Biden has been involved in these discussions, so very high up in the legal chain at the White House, that Joe Biden himself has not been consulted about whether or not he would want to even consider offering these potential pardons to individuals in a pre- pre-criminal way. And again, I think there's a big concern that because they'd be preemptive, a lot of these politicians would say no. Now, is that the same if you're talking about some of these mid-level bad actors at the FBI or DOJ? Maybe not. And I think that's where it gets more troubling because those people Have to be cleaned up to de-weaponize government. And there may be legitimate crimes that occurred. And though you may prosecute some, it may actually just be a way to easier. And Harry, this is because we know how hard it is to remove federal bureaucrats once they're entrenched. And if you're a mid-level DC IRS or DC FBI or DOJ, you're pretty entrenched at that point. That at least if you want to de-weaponize the government, if you don't want to bring the criminal charges against them, maybe at least the idea that they have committed these crimes or could have committed these crimes is a way to remove them.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think that's absolutely correct. I think it's also important to keep in mind that Joe Biden is a particularly selfish guy, and a large number of commentators have suggested his pardon of his son was very selfish. It benefited Joe Biden, particularly with respect to Burisma and Ukraine. So the question becomes, will any of these proposed pardons actually benefit Joe Biden? And I think at the end of the day, the answer is no. So I'm not necessarily sure he will care whether Liz Cheney or James Comey or Fauci is indeed pardoned because the question becomes, does it benefit the Biden family?
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And Jordan, before we go to break here, it also shows you something about the people in the White House that were so concerned about President Trump being a threat to democracy, how little respect they have for our democracy, of being a strong democracy, and trusting our judicial system. If they believe...
SPEAKER 07 :
think they do yeah right they understand that the DOJ has been weaponized by them and that means it could be easily weaponized by Donald Trump and his team and that doesn't take many steps that's like one step all you do is say investigate these people we believe that they committed crimes um that uh that uh that would not be these acts would not be covered by their their position in congress that they did commit crimes that or they leaked information that was classified the list goes on um or for some of these prosecutors at the DOJ that what they did was improper and the way they used the information was improper. But again, if we want to de-weaponize, it does not mean that we're not going to have to get rid of or prosecute some actors inside the FBI and DOJ. But going after just big names to go after big names is not the way to de-weaponize a system for the long-term future. Support the work of the ACLJ. That's at ACLJ.org. Be part of our Faith and Freedom year-end drive. We need your donations today.
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keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, so lots of talk about pardons. We will see if we get to that level. I think, you know, when we talk about Hunter Biden's pardon, we go to the power of the president. We walk through that very specifically on the show. We're looking to see about these other preemptive pardons. I do think if you look at the pardon of Nixon by Gerald Ford, you see that there is precedent already for preemptive pardons. And no one at that time tried to challenge Nixon. that that I know of there may have been people that tried to bring lawsuits against President Nixon but once he left office I don't remember ever reading about anything moving anywhere past being dismissed immediately by a court so it does look like it would be possible to do this does that mean that it wouldn't be looked at by a court now and you know now that we're in to 2024 2025 no it doesn't so I think that again you have to take all this with a grain of salt and remember this is another kind of story showing you what's happening at this White House the moment Joe Biden leaves the country or Joe Biden's outside the White House. His team has got stories out that he has not even been consulted on. And Jordan, another thing... Because I think they're mad about what he did with Hunter Biden. I think his own team, the left and the Democrats, realize he created a precedent for Donald Trump in the future so that this, what happened to Donald Trump and his staff... Never happens again.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I think another point to bring out on this is that even the left that's saying he's abusing this power, really, if it were to somehow be challenged, I don't know, and I'm not the attorney, but it seems like it would be very hard to find someone who is standing to bring that challenge. And even if they did, and it made it all the way to the Supreme Court, this Supreme Court has been very generous with the interpretation of presidential power. We got that from the immunity ruling. And so you see that. And even if it did get all the way to the Supreme Court, challenging his wide sweeping pardons, I don't know that even if... There are some commentators that can make the point that maybe it went too far, that the Supreme Court would be inclined to put a limit on that presidential pardon power because it's pretty plain in the Constitution. The only thing he can't grant a pardon for is for impeachment because that's the political process. So people may be crying foul on the left. And I think that people like Karine Jean-Pierre may be pretty frustrated that she had to go out there and repeat that line. No, it will never happen so many times. But I don't know that there's any recourse for anyone to go back after the president and try to clean up the widespread usage if he chooses to go down that road.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I think that, listen, I think after that, it was all bets are off. And this White House, again, they're not even consulting the president. He's the one that actually has the power. I guess they're kind of come up with, what do we give him a briefing on this? And should we actually recommend this to the president of the United States before he leaves office? on january 20th usually these come on uh you know very late the day on january 19th uh where these kind of more controversial pardons get issued but they would have to approach people i don't think they want a bunch of people offered pardons by the president who then say no no i don't need a pardon because i didn't do anything wrong or illegal i'm not worried about like that i just uh called for investigations into something. And the people who made the decisions about that are the ones who have to follow the law the right way. 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be on the broadcast with us. That's 1-800-684-3110. And Logan, this is really a key time for us at the ACLJ. We're fighting, and we're going to talk about it in just the next segment, to defend school choice in a major case. At the Supreme Court of Ohio, as you saw more states go red, we are seeing school choice programs be broadened out. But we're seeing the teachers unions try to fight back with creative ways like, well, we can't pick your kid up because that's going to cost us too much money. And if we send buses, so there's no way to actually get the student who qualifies for school choice to school without putting a burden on the parents.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. CC High House Senior Counsel is going to be joining us in the next segment. You're going to want to stay tuned for that. It's always good for you to have an understanding of all the work the ACLJ is doing on the individual level, on the big level. But we can't do any of it without your help and support. So I encourage you right now, during this Faith and Freedom year-end drive where all gifts are doubled, as we fight to defend the rights of students... and so many in the pro-life community. We got so much going on. I can't wait to show all of it to you and so much of it we can't even talk about yet. We need your support. Go to ACLJ.org right now and become an ACLJ champion if you can. That's someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis. Be right back.
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Welcome back to SecU. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. So if you're hanging on, we will get you. We've got a couple of ACLJ cases to update you on. CeCe Hallis joining us. It's CeCe, one out of Columbus, Ohio. This, again, involving school choice and students who are not being the bus situation, which is supposed to be covered by the school choice law. law that you could get that transportation if you need it to the school of your choice and in Columbus Ohio the school district saying we can't do that the they tried to come in and have this case dismissed and it was they were not successful we move on now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so like you said, the Ohio law, there is a law in Ohio that says school districts have to provide transportation for any student within their district. And that means even private schools or religious schools. And that's our client has students that go to a private Christian school. And the law goes on to say that not only does the school district need to provide that transportation to all these students, that if... They decide that they cannot because they're outside the district or they don't comply with the certain regulations. They are mandated. The law goes on to mandate that in that interim decision time when the parents are appealing the school. district has to provide interim transportation. So that's where we are. Our clients have been denied transportation. They've appealed. There's a long administrative process. The law requires that transportation, interim transportation be provided. So we filed a writ of mandamus in the Ohio Supreme Court. And that's just a fancy way to say that the court needs to compel the government to do a specific thing. And here it is compelling the school board to provide the interim transportation. And like you said, the school board filed a motion to dismiss. The court just denied that. So the case goes forward. On December 16th, we have to submit evidence. And by December 26th, we have to provide a brief on the merits. So like we say all the time, just because it's a holiday event, We've got Christmas coming. We've got New Year's coming. The ACLJ will still be working defending these parents' rights to have transportation under this Ohio law.
SPEAKER 07 :
To me, this is like the last and we have another one of these cases actually come in recently. We're reviewing it right now, but it's another transportation case. and it's like another way these teachers unions and school districts are seeing that when school choice laws are passed especially what we're seeing now is they're being broadened so more people are eligible than were before usually it started out as something you had to have like maybe meet a certain economic condition or special need that you the school could provide and now it's getting broader and broader to the idea that school choice should be available to every taxpayer because everyone's paying for these public schools
SPEAKER 10 :
so their next the next way they try to make this difficult for parents is say we can't pick your kid up yeah and and it actually and they actually tried to get this dismissed i mean they wanted to walk in say it just shows you how little they care about the kids right and how much they care about their own power and it actually affected more than our client there were over a thousand students that actually were denied transportation and so the ohio attorney general has also filed a similar lawsuit and we're working in tandem with that because This school board, the Columbus School Board, is not following the law.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Jordan, this is another interesting and tragic fact of this, is that in the school board's motion to dismiss, so when they asked the Supreme Court of Ohio to throw out the case, They said that the law imposes a penalty on school districts that fail to provide this. Now, this is, you know, the capital district of of the state of Ohio. So it's not a rural district that they can't necessarily get this together. But they argued not that we haven't violated the law. but that the law has a penalty in it and if we pay that we're covered so effectively they choose to waste taxpayer money paying a penalty that they know that they have to pay because they're not following the law instead of providing students with the mandated transportation that the law covers so once again you talk about the power of the teachers unions and and the rights of students not being taken seriously or as of the utmost importance they even argued to the court that hey yeah we know that we're supposed to be doing this but we'll just pay the fine instead of helping the kids and Fortunately, the Supreme Court of Ohio denied the motion to dismiss so it can go forward as a case. But just that alone, that the school board would argue to the Supreme Court, we're going to waste money paying a fine instead of helping children.
SPEAKER 07 :
These kids to school, even though... They were given more money to actually enact this program. So the public school system, because of the bus system, was given more money, CC, under the school choice law so they could get these kids to school. And instead they say, nah, we just rather take all the taxpayer money we get. We get plenty of that. We'll just pay the fine courts. So there's no issue here.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I think that's why you see the attorney general there in Ohio getting involved because they see that this school board, the Columbus Board of Education, is violating a law, doing it willfully, and they need to, you know, make it right.
SPEAKER 07 :
A second case, this one involving life out of New Mexico. We've talked about this hospital. It was purchased, as we see lots of hospitals now, in consolidation. And these hospital workers... who had conscience protections at the hospital they were working at when the new hospital ownership came in got rid of those conscience protections and are required at the moment to perform abortions we're waiting right now the hospital's response but we've also got another client we've added another for a fourth client in this case at the same hospital who has realized now their conscience protections have been done away with by this new owner where does that stand?
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Yeah. So in this case, we we actually have two issues going on. There's the federal laws that protect conscience rights. And we see that even the Supreme Court just recently reiterated that absolutely federal law protects the right of health care workers to be able to say they don't want to participate. in an abortion or assisted suicide or anything of that nature due to their religious beliefs, that that's absolutely protected under federal law. But there's also a Title VII claim, which is the religious accommodation claim that under their religious beliefs, our clients. The four health care workers there at the New Mexico hospital, you know, for religious beliefs, do not want to perform abortions or participate in any part of an abortion. And they should be allowed a religious accommodation. So we have gone forth. We're in the stage of they've requested the accommodations from the hospital. We're waiting for that response. If the response comes back and they don't grant the accommodation, then we have a title seven claim that we can. pursuing the federal courts. And we can also file with the Health and Human Services the complaint for the federal conscious violations.
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Yeah, I mean, so it's these kind of new battles when you see the overturning of Roe versus Wade and then some states taking actions. that we're fighting these new conscious battles whether it's the school choice battles after again the Supreme Court opening the door for much more broad school choice programs across the country and then you've got to fight the cases that come from that because CC what happens whether they're they uh to call it a healthcare industry when you're talking about abortion but they won't they try to make money It's an industry, especially these ones that are buying and consolidating hospitals that were a lot of times in the past related to either religious institutions or nonprofit institutions to some extent, but could no longer afford to operate that way. So they had to sell to keep open. We've seen that fight. We've seen the fight on school choice be not now about whether or not you can actually choose the school because they've lost that fight. It's, well, we don't have to take you there. and so figure out how to get there on your own, even though many of the people that right now can take part in most school choice programs, though they are broadening out, still have requirements that have to be met. It's not always yet open to everyone. I think there are states that are opening it, and it sounded like this year through elections, to 60,000 and 70,000 more students that will be eligible in states. So it's certainly not everyone yet, but we are getting that direction. The... The teachers unions, the school boards, and the left, who has been able to use the public school system to kind of begin the indoctrination of students, and we've talked about parental rights so much these last four and five years, realize that when the parents are given the choice and the opportunity... What they're doing first is taking their kids out of these schools.
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Yeah.
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They're not able to, even though they're given extra funds to try and compete because these schools go to the point of saying, well, if you're not going to go to our school, we'll pay a fine. of your taxpayer dollars rather than pick your kid up to go to a private school.
SPEAKER 10 :
And this is where you see the ACLJ is so important because, like you're saying, there are federal laws in place that have protections for schools, for hospitals, for conscience rights. There are state laws that have protections. Again, in Ohio, we see state laws, but then you will see local pushback. And in these two cases, you see it from a specific board of education, the Columbus Board of Education, or the specific hospital in New Mexico. And so even though there are laws on the books that protect these rights, the ACLJ still needs to step in and actually defend our clients' rights under these laws. And we will do that. And like I said, it'll be right through Christmas and the new year. We'll be working straight through.
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You know what, folks? This is our most critical month of the year. We're facing immense challenges. We know there's going to be a lot of legal work, attacks on faith, freedom from the radical left are increasing. These new proposals every day that we're hearing about from the left. But your support allows us to take on each of these challenges. Right now we're fighting to defend school choice, as you heard, in a major case at the Supreme Court of Ohio. That has ramifications for the whole country. Representing several ultrasound techs, again, who are told they have to violate their faith, violate their conscience and participate in abortions or go look for a job somewhere else. They can't work in the healthcare industry, can't work in a hospital if you won't kill a child in the womb. We're fighting for them. We're defending Israel against those unlawful arrest warrants by the ICC. Heard about it today, this idea that this will tar Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel's history because they will be treated as war criminals even if they are never actually ever taken to court, just like Nazis. We have to fight back on those issues, and we are. So support the work of the ACLJ this month. Donate today. Have that gift doubled. ACLJ.org. Your financial support is critical. Welcome back. We are taking your calls. Let's go to Ronald in South Carolina on line one. Again, talking about these issues involving pardons. We've talked about self-pardons. We've talked about preemptive pardons now. We've seen the pardon of Hunter Biden. There's talk about will there be preemptive pardons of other well-known Democrats by Joe Biden. Of course, one thing to note in here, Joe Biden they haven't even talked to about this because they don't really talk to him about things until I guess he either makes decisions. It's like the pardon decision on Hunter. He decided he didn't want to talk to any of them about either. But I think that was why this was a White House that did not work. and so they would go out and make statements like this would never happen and they had to go out you know what I always say as someone who's worked for a president before and on the legal side don't go out and say things that will never if things are legal things that the president has the power to do I don't think you should ever go out and say they will never do if they have the power and constitutional authority to do it you probably shouldn't preemptively go out and say there's no way 100% that you could ever change their mind on it
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Yeah, and we have Ronald still, right? Ronald, you're there in South Carolina. Go ahead with your question or comment. I'm not sure if we do have a problem. Let's put him back on hold and see if we can get to him. Let's make sure he's good. There's a lot happening right now also with this year-end drive, and I really want to encourage you all to take a minute while we get those phone calls cleared up to support the work of the ACLJ. If you're watching right now, scan the QR code. If you can't support financially, we understand, and what I encourage you to do, an easy way to support the ACLJ, if you're watching on YouTube or Rumble, subscribe. If you're watching on X, you know, follow, do those kinds of things. Those are free ways that you can help support us. Over 446,000 people alone on YouTube have subscribed to our channel. And we know that about half the people that watch our broadcast each and every day don't subscribe. So I'm looking at you. right now. If you're watching this right now and you haven't hit subscribe, hit the subscribe button right now. We know we'd appreciate it. And if you already have, hit the thumbs up. All those things help make sure that your message gets into the hands of more and more people. It helps us get within the algorithm so new people who have never seen the ACLJ, who have never seen this broadcast, see it. We know thousands do each and every day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and this is, again, important to do. And like Logan said, it's important to do because by you, it's important that you come and you've figured out how to come and watch even if you haven't subscribed. But if you subscribe, they look and they say, okay, this kind of person subscribed. We should send out this show to more people like this person. Absolutely. And that makes sense then that people like you would also want this information and these discussions. So when they see on the news in five minutes that there's this talk of preemptive pardons, well, let's go into a discussion with actual attorneys who have gone through these presidential power issues and can actually talk to you about this stuff in an honest way, not in a partisan way. Notice we didn't just come out and say, if he does this, you know, put him in jail, right? We actually went through and said, well, let's think through this. There might not be a ton of precedent, but there's one. Pretty big one. The pardoning of Nixon. Yeah, a pretty big one. And if you, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not true. And I think people sometimes think, well, he's a president and that was known that he was going to get prosecuted. Well, then you could say that for a senator.
SPEAKER 06 :
You could easily say that for a... You could say that, honestly, at this point, you could say that just about anybody.
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Anybody involved in the political fight feels like you could be a target of the weaponization of law enforcement, which is why the goal of the Trump administration, and it's a big goal to get there in four years, But the goal is that the American people on both sides of the aisle and no aisle at all have faith again in our legal system. That doesn't mean, again, that you love the fact that the IRS is going to audit you occasionally or that the FBI doesn't sometimes get things wrong. But that generally speaking, they are trying to do the right thing and not the wrong thing. And they're certainly not doing it because of politics. That's where we're trying to get to. And if we can't get there, we're going to have to change the systems entirely. And that's going to take more than four years, and that's going to take an even bigger type of election over multiple election cycles if we want to see those reforms done.
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And Jordan, I think we should play this bite as we wrap up the show today. This is from Jill Winebanks, who was a prosecutor during the Watergate scandal at the Department of Justice. She was one of the individuals looking into this on that team. And here's what she had to say about, one, she's coming off talking about the Hunter Biden pardon, but also looking forward to potential preemptive pardons. And I'm curious if... She would have said the same thing about President Gerald Ford after Nixon stepped down if she had the same feelings back then. But let's go ahead and play bite six.
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It is really appropriate for a grant of clemency. I hope that President Biden will also issue preemptive pardons to all of those people threatened by the injustice of what will become the Department of Justice in the Trump administration. That, of course, includes Jack Smith and all of his staff. many Department of Justice lawyers. It includes President Biden himself, although we don't know that anyone can legally pardon themselves. He will need a pardon because he is going to be harassed and charged for no crimes whatsoever. Donald Trump has promised that.
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I saw President Biden and President Trump in the Oval Office smiling. I don't think on the top of President Trump's list is, I'm going to go prosecute an 80-year-old former president who I didn't even get to run against because he did so bad in the debate that I didn't get a chance to beat him the second time, who's obviously no longer consulting with his staff and probably had no control over the DOJ either and all of these individuals. because you see that he did exactly the opposite move of what his staff was telling you for three years about Hunter Biden when that stuff starts happening you start thinking you know what this is not about Joe Biden anymore and why does Jack Smith need a pardon preemptive what did he do illegal I mean if he did things illegal in a prosecution of a former president I'd like to see the case move forward. Because we do have to de-weaponize the government. And that has to mean that prosecutors can't feel like they are God. And that the rules don't apply to them. That the rules of justice. And remember, we're still keeping this in the federal system. This isn't going to reform the New York DA's office. This isn't going to reform Georgia DA's office. But there are cases going on about that. We'll talk about that too. Probably tomorrow on the broadcast and get to it today. But... At the end of the day, what we have to stick with over these next four years is one, being very careful about prosecuting people just because you don't like their politics and you think that they were too heavy-handed in their dislike or distrust of their politics against Donald Trump. Look deep into the bureaucracy. That's truly where the bad actors are. The leakers, the ones who have potentially altered evidence. Whoever scattered those classified document pictures, I'd like to know who that was. And is this normal practice for them that they do against American citizens who don't have the power of the President of the United States? Because if it is, and they go into your house, and they always make you look like you're a criminal with the pieces of paper that you have, even though you didn't know those pieces of paper were even there, and it makes you like you keep it in a toilet, and all those things. Those people probably deserve to be investigated. That does not mean they should be prosecuted, but it might. Because if you don't do any of those actions, how are you going to de-weaponize? So you don't focus on the big names. If you do that, you're just continuing to weaponize the government. That means whoever's in charge will prosecute the high profile people who are in charge the next time. You look at the actors inside, the people... with their hands on the evidence, the people who decided, let's scatter the documents around and take a picture so that President Trump has to come out and say, that is not what this ever looked like, and make it look like it was this mess or disaster, when in fact, it was not. Support the work of the ACLJ. Logan, again, a critical time. It is how we budget for the entire 2025. It's where we start and where we are in December at the end of the month.
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On today's program: Pete Sessions, U.S. Representative for the 17th District of Texas, shares his takeaways from Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy's Capitol Hill meeting regarding the Department of Government Efficiency. Josh Hawley, U.S. Senator from
In this engaging episode of the Best Stocks Now Show, join professional money manager Bill Gundersen as he dives into the riveting world of stocks and cryptocurrencies in today's thriving market. As Bitcoin soars past $100,000, Bill discusses its impact on traditional markets like the Dow and NASDAQ, prompting the question: is the current Bitcoin surge a repeat of past market bubbles? With references to historical economic events such as the NASDAQ dot-com crash, Bill offers listeners a wealth of insights into the dynamics of profit-taking and valuation metrics. Bill also takes a deep dive into various market analyses, highlighting noteworthy trends such as the incredible momentum in software and semiconductor stocks. As he provides his perspective on market principles and intrinsic values, Bill reminds us that just as earlier bubbles brought growth and risk, today's market too will demand judicious investing tactics. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just entering the trading world, Bill’s expert discussion will equip you with the knowledge to navigate these fascinating times in financial markets.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Thursday. It is the Thursday edition of the Bitcoin Bubble Show. It's called the Best Stocks Now Show. Who cares about stocks anymore? Just buy Bitcoin. That's the way it seems right now. We'll talk about that today and a whole lot of other things. We're seeing a little bit of profit-taking. This is Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. We're seeing some profit-taking. And we're seeing a little bump higher, and the Dow is up 24 points. These days, though, at 45,000, from a percentage point of view, that works out to just 0.05% on the upside. The S&P is up 0.03%, and the NASDAQ is down 0.04%, I think if we call it kind of a flat profit-taking day in the market after yesterday. That's probably the best way to sum it up. The Russell 2000 is down 0.28. But that doesn't stop Bitcoin. Bitcoin right now, it was over 100,000 for the first time. It was up 7,000. This morning, as Donald Trump names a Bitcoin-friendly SEC chairman, and Bitcoin is currently trading at $103,362. which is a new all-time high. Why work? Let's just buy Bitcoin. Dogecoin up 9.2%, too. We can't forget Dogecoin. And the 10-year Treasury, who's buying Treasuries anymore? You've got the 10 years at 4.21% right now. so welcome to today's best stocks now show with professional money manager bill gunderson president of gunderson capital management and uh i've uh been a professional money manager since the year 2000 or actually 1999 somewhere 1998 i forget it's been so long ago I've seen some massive bubbles in the market along the way. Up till now, the biggest bubble I ever saw was in the NASDAQ, the dot-com stocks of the year 2000. Everybody wanted in. And almost everybody got in and it didn't end well. We found out that valuations on stocks do matter. Price to sales ratios of 112, peg ratios of 10 are not sustainable. It's no different if you were to buy a donut shop. Would you pay a billion dollars for a donut shop in your town? Some of those companies didn't have as much earnings as a local donut shop or a local dry cleaners. It was a massive bubble. And when it popped, it caused massive, the collateral damage was massive, a 79% drop in the NASDAQ, okay? And, you know, most of the money was crowded into the NASDAQ at that time. And that's where people wanted to be. That's where the growth was. We had a new thing called the Internet. And if you added .com to your name and had a website and started selling or giving advice or whatever the case may be on the internet, your stock zoomed higher. And if your stock split, it would zoom even higher. Wow, look at this. I got twice as many shares right now. And it went on and on and on and it didn't end well. And I would say the question now, will this Bitcoin thing end well? Well, I'm going to weigh in on that in a little while here. I am a witness to a couple of massive bubbles in the market, and I'll give my opinion on this current bubble. But we'll go through some statistics here. First, we had a good day in the market yesterday. The Dow, the NASDAQ, the S&P all closed at an all-time high yesterday. And, of course, we are at very, very steep multiples in the market right now.
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How many times have you said that this year? A lot. I think we're up to 54. I think it's 54.
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Why don't I just record myself? Why do I keep saying it? We had 45,014 on the Dow, new all-time high. We had on the S&P 6,086 new all-time high and the NASDAQ 19,735 new all-time high. The software stocks were absolutely on fire yesterday. That fire was lit. Yeah, Salesforce and Okta. And then you had kind of a low-level semiconductor stock, Marvell Technology, also heated up the chip stocks yesterday. And by the end of the day, you had new highs across the board. you had massive breakouts in a lot of stocks yesterday individual stocks and i sent out a lot of lessons yesterday i said look i like this stock this stock still makes sense from a valuation point of view It passes muster there. It passes muster from the performance point of view. I said, look at this chart, okay? To me, it's extended. It's very extended. That's a dangerous spot to buy a stock when it is extended to the upside. So that would disqualify it for me, okay? uh and i'm trying uh my best during the day to send out as many really good examples of different concepts in the market that i deem to be very very important okay i know people that trade just on stock charts alone okay that's all they do they don't look at the fundamentals they don't care about valuation And on the other hand, I know people that trade just on valuations. They look for intrinsic value that they think someday will be realized, and they're willing to sit for a couple years, although that group is becoming a dying species.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that value trap. Well, yeah, I mean, holding on to IBM for 10 years to get that latest recent pop, while everything else is going up around you, just kind of, it's a bit defeating, right?
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Yes. I mean, that's all we need to see is some kind of hiccup, and you're going to see some of these lofty valuations, you know, start to crumble. But for now, the market has momentum, okay? It does not lack momentum. I sent out a chart this morning. I said, what does momentum look like? And I sent out a chart of the NASDAQ. This is what momentum looks like. uh... and uh... eventually momentum uh... comes back down to earth so you also have to be very very careful uh... at a time like this so anyways we finished above forty five thousand yesterday on the dow for the first time i think we'll probably get twenty thousand on the uh... nasdaq here eventually uh... and i've been saying that it's just almost uh... inevitable that you're going to get to a hundred thousand above hundred thousand on bitcoin Okay, now let's just come back to earth for a minute before we talk about Bitcoin. Initial jobless claims, Barry, increased a little more than expected this past week, 224,000. That's still very low, however. We still have a tight labor market. You've got to wonder how many teenagers, how many college kids, why flip burgers at McDonald's when you can sit on the couch and watch your Bitcoin go up, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
I guess you've got to get a little money up front to seed your Bitcoin rise. But it's been interesting. I mean, honestly, when you look at these, at least the two of the three reports we're going to get on the jobs front, have been a little light. So you had the ADP report, I think, came in a little less than expected yesterday. You've had, I think, jobless claims still low. $224,000 isn't scary. Consensus was $215,000. So it came in you know a little uh i guess a little barrett more bearish than expected and so um on that side you could probably you know call it uh good for the market because uh you know should keep uh potentially a lid on on rates and and of course when the fed meets next week they'll have these numbers and you know likely to cut you know at least another quarter point and uh you kind of take it from there but
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When Bitcoin's 103,000, does anybody care about a quarter point rate cut? I mean, it's like, okay. It's all going to be relevant, however, at some point in time. Today's rally is brought to you by, in Bitcoin, the pro-crypto SEC, the new head. of that SEC named by Donald Trump, who is a big Bitcoin backer. His name is Paul Atkins. And let's not forget the people that are showing up in Washington today to look at the budget of the U.S., Ram Swami and Elon Musk. They're also very pro-Bitcoin. Now, when we come back, We're going to just go over the history of Bitcoin, which began in 2008. Okay, and we're going to go through some of these milestones, and then I'm just going to give you my very strong opinion, very strong opinion. of how I think it's going to end up. Okay, so the timeline is very important. The more facts that we have, the better kind of analysis we can make. In the meantime, Cuba grid collapses, millions plunged into darkness, and the French government collapses. But Bitcoin's at 103,000. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. On October 31st, 2008, Satoshi Nakamoto introduced Bitcoin to the world with a white paper. On January 3rd, 2009, several months later, Bitcoin's first block was mined by Satoshi. Nine days later, the first Bitcoin transaction occurred between Satoshi and Hal Finney. The price of Bitcoin stood roughly at zero. Okay, 2009, zero. Here we are 2024, and we're at 103,000. Go ahead, do the compound annual growth on Bitcoin. You can look that formula up on Google and apply it. Maybe I'll do that after the show today, but it's going to come out. It soundly beat the S&P 500, let's say so. Okay.
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I saw an interesting chart. It was Bitcoin and NVIDIA, and NVIDIA was way at the bottom when you look at percentages.
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The first real-world Bitcoin transaction was on May 22, 2010, 14 years ago, when 10,000 Bitcoins were used to buy two pizzas. Well, what would 10,000 bitcoins buy you today? 10,000 bitcoins at 106 years. That's like 10 million, okay, would buy you three mansions. It was still valued at less than one cent.
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Yeah, $100 million.
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Yeah, $100 million. Okay. On February 9th, 2011, Bitcoin reached $1. Let's use that as a starting point, okay? $1 13 years ago to $103,000. On November 18th, 2012, it underwent its first halving, a process that reduces the number of new Bitcoins created per block by one half. Now we go to 2013, April Fool's Day. I don't know about that. That could just be bad karma there. Exceeded $100 for the first time. $100 11 years ago. Well, okay, then it started to pick up some steam because later that year, in November of 2013, Bitcoin hit $1,000, drawing attention from tech enthusiasts and investors. In February 24, 2014, Mt. Gox, the world's largest Bitcoin exchange at that time, was hacked, sending Bitcoin back down to $400. And you just wonder how safe your Bitcoin is today. I can't tell you that. Bitcoin had a second halving in 2016. Seven years ago, it hit 1,000 again. That would still be some astronomical compound annual growth if you started with 1,000 and grew it to 103,000 in seven years. Then in December 17, 2017, Bitcoin peaked at 20,000. And then you had, during the pandemic, a pandemic-induced market crash. Do you know it went from 20,000 down to 4,300? And it quickly recovered. Now, we haven't seen any big sell-offs in Bitcoin here recently. But it went from $20,000 down. Imagine if we're at almost $20,000 on the NASDAQ right now. Imagine in a couple of years it went down to $4,300. On May 11, 2020, now we're getting up to current time, it went through its third halving. Companies like MicroStrategy and Square, which is Jack, the owner of Twitter. It used to be Twitter. Not Jack Frost. That's my toes right now. Jack Dorsey began accumulating Bitcoin on their ballot. Now I'm seeing biotechs that don't have any products. You know what they're doing? They're buying Bitcoin. On January 3rd, Bitcoin crossed $30,000 for the first time. On March 13th of 2021, it surpassed $60,000 following Tesla's $1.5 billion investment. On January 10th, 2024, now we're looking at this year, the U.S. Securities SEC approved nearly a dozen spot Bitcoin exchange traded funds, which were cleared for trading a day later. On April 19th, it went through its fourth halving, and today, actually it happened yesterday as we slept, Bitcoin hit $100,000 after President-elect Trump picks Paul Atkins, a crypto backer for the SEC chair. Well, everybody has their opinion on what's going to become of Bitcoin eventually. Just as a guy who has studied bubbles, I mean, you go back to the Holland Tulip Bowl bubble, you go to the South Seas shipping out of the UK, you go to the NASDAQ bubble, there's been many, many bubbles over the years. from my now first i'm going to tell you i do have a little position in it in an etf okay uh that's just as a little part of my portfolio but i do believe that at some point in time I think this massive bubble is going to collapse. And, you know, the reason I say that, I'm just going to give you, you know, I really believe that man is meant to earn his money by the sweat of his brow. I mean, that was the first commandment to Adam coming out of the Garden of Eden. In the sweat of thy face thou shalt eat bread till thou return unto the ground. For out of it wast thou taken, dust thou art, and to dust thou shalt return. It's a commandment from God to work. So to me, this is not a true principle. It's not built on a solid foundation. And, you know, like, I think this is a bigger bubble than what we saw. At least the NASDAQ, there was something underneath it, Barry. Those companies had buildings and they had desks and chairs and computers. Yes, okay. I see nothing underneath it whatsoever, maybe sand. So in my humble opinion, and I almost hate to see Trump getting sucked into it because I just don't think it's going to end well. Now it could go to a million before that happens. But it's just not built on true principles as far as I'm concerned. And I don't see anything underneath it that supports it.
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In a sense, it's a technology, right? And they're competing. I mean, there's a lot of different competing protocols. Because the deal is what's the ultimate use of it, right? And it's to make exchange around the world, right? Global payments, make things... be able to move money easier without intermediaries and big banks in between sucking up a lot of fees. But in reality, right, it's truly a computer technology, right? It's a software. I mean, you use Ethereum. It eats up tons of electricity to produce. So it's a software program to a certain extent, right? You can break it down to that or a network of computers. Right.
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That's my opinion on Bitcoin. It's not going to end well. I can't tell you when. It could go to a million. I don't know. I'm surprised it's gone this far. But now it seems to have more support than it's ever had. But I just say to you, I wouldn't put my whole IRA into Bitcoin. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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The second half of today's Best Docs.
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This next story kind of flows right into what we just ended with. Robin Hood, CEO, 10F, keenly looking into sports betting. So there you go, Barry. You lay on the couch, watch your Bitcoin go up, and then go over to your Robinhood account and bet on whether or not he's going to make that field goal or not, right?
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Yeah, then flip over, and then I don't have to leave my couch, and I can watch the game, right?
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And while you're there, go to DoorDash and have your meal delivered to you. It's just not built on a solid foundation. All right, French government topples as Parliament votes to oust Prime Minister. There's that. You know, their market is down 6% right now, and they've got big issues. They're like us, more spending than what they're taking in. Trump names Peter Navarro as Senior Trade Advisor. He's from my neck of the woods in Southern California. He was a professor at UC Irvine. I've followed Peter Navarro for many years. I'll say this, he's a tough guy. He was put in prison. And now he's out. And he wrote the book, Death by China, which he's no friend of China. He's not going to let China. Now he's on the front lines with China. He's the guy they've got to deal with, right?
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He knows the ins and outs. I mean, he's in the know. And he's got a bone to pick. Put that, yes.
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Taiwan semiconductor, NVIDIA, in talks to make AI chips at the Arizona plant. Well, you know, there was that law that Taiwan has that these chips can't be built anywhere but Taiwan, but I guess maybe they're trying to get around that. It would be nice. I mean, with China licking their chops at Taiwan, it would be nice to get those AI chips built somewhere else. In the meantime, OPEC, they're just going to shut down. They're not going to increase production of oil, likely for three months. It's stuck at about $68 per barrel. They want to wait and see. uh what trump does whether he's going to drill baby drill and which would drive down the price and increase the supply of oil here's a biotech similar scientific they buy 303 additional bitcoins between november so you know you have business models now I mean, MicroStrategy, what is it? It's nothing more than a company, really, that is buying Bitcoins. And you're sitting there owning stock in this company, and it's all based on Bitcoin.
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You essentially own their balance sheet.
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Yeah. Just imagine if this thing does start to crumble at some point, the impact that it would have. the ripple effect that it would have across the world reverberation across the world that's how big and how much money is bitcoin sucking out of the real economy okay you know where there's leverage involved i mean you take huge leverage and so why you know you look at say a micro strategy or why own you know micro strategy when you can own just uh say bitcoin outright right well
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MicroStrategy is borrowing to buy these Bitcoins. So it's essentially, whether you want to call it margin or what, they're using their capital structure to borrow here and buy more Bitcoin. Yes. It's really a leverage play. Highly leveraged. And leverage works both ways, right?
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It works both ways. It magnifies returns. It also magnifies losses. Great shall be the fall thereof, right, when it falls at some point in time. Okay, talent, energy, they announced the $600 million. Of course, it takes a lot of energy. Let's forget about artificial intelligence. I mean, we have artificial wealth here in this Bitcoin. It takes a lot of energy to mine these Bitcoins. I talked to a friend of mine, and he's doing it in his basement, and his electric bill was $30,000 a month, which is just a cost of doing business. But Cuba's grid is down. They're in the dark, okay? Our grid, how much can our grid handle? electric cars bitcoin manufacturing artificial intelligence machines will there be enough left over to cook our food and heat our houses i don't know g.e vernova wins a new bullet wolf as top proxy for accelerating electricity demand there you are all these stories kind of fit together like a glove right now.
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Yeah, AI and Bitcoin mining.
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I'm going to call Bitcoin AW. Bill Gunderson coined it. Artificial wealth. How long can it last? I don't know. We'll see. Have fun while it is in the bubble stage. GE Vernova. Now, that's a real way. I mean, if you want to play the picks and shovels, You know, the truth of the matter was that the gold rush in Southern California, where do you think the San Francisco 49ers got their name? It was 1849 when everybody rushed to California to become gold. gold millionaires and who made most of the money levi strauss and the people that sold the the the picks and the shovels and eventually it crashed and people went home and they found out that they had to clear land and plant seeds and grow crops and buy tractors and hard work the dust by the sweat of their brow once again. But the electricity play is real. I really believe that. And GE Vernova is right in smack dab in the middle of it. It was spun off by GE Electric. Meta. Meta, we talked about yesterday, to build a $10 billion AI data center in Louisiana. And they're going to work with Entergy for their energy needs. Well, Entergy is ETR. It's a utility company. All of a sudden, utility companies are trading like artificial intelligence stocks. ETR hit a new all-time high. I wouldn't say it's another like Vistra or Constellation Energy, but here you've got Meta building a $10 billion AI data center, and Entergy is going to be the one providing the energy to them. Okay, North Carolina City sues Duke Energy over climate change. Okay, so one of these North Carolina cities got flooded during the hurricane, and they're going to sue Duke Energy for creating this mess and climate change. We'll see how that one goes in the courts. Applied materials slides on Morgan Stanley downgrade. Yeah, you know, I'm not a fan. I have noticed, however, though, that ASM lithography, If I were going to own one or two of the semiconductor equipment makers, the guys who make the equipment, you know, China and the rules against selling to China have really hurt this industry. It's hurt the chip makers themselves, and it's hurt the companies that make the equipment for making these chips. And, of course, it's ASML that has kind of the patent, the lock, the corner on the market for making the really high-tech equipment for making the AI chips. But that stock has been kind of chilled here. It's just been kind of going sideways here. in a $650 to $700 range, but that would be the one I would own if demand for semiconductors starts to pick up again. And lamb research obviously would be the other one. Applied materials definitely would not be one of the stocks that I own at the current time. Okay, now when we come back, we're going to take a look underneath the surface. There's a few others. Here's one other one. I've been watching these quantum computing stocks, which are also part of this new age, golden age that we're in, Bitcoin age. We won't call it the golden age. We'll call it the golden age or the Bitcoin age. ARKIT Quantum. ARKIT Quantum is one of the stocks that was a recipient, I think, of Amazon investments. They reported their earnings today or lack thereof. They had $100,000 in sales. $100,000 for the quarter. Most companies do that in a few hours, you know, the Chipotles of the world and the McDonald's. This is for their whole quarter, and they lost $1.57 per share. So you're totally out there buying a company that may someday... have sales and have earnings. In the interim, it's down 17.3% today, ARQQ, as a little dose of reality sets in. While people were trading this thing, it went up to $32 after the Amazon news. And now today it's $20. So it's down 33% since it hit a high just three days ago. But, you know, the real, the bucket of cold water thrown in everybody's faces. There's no sales yet here. And there's big losses. They're burning through their balance sheet. Maybe they need to buy more Bitcoin. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Okay, let's look at some stocks here that are catching my eye here this morning. It's hard to not see Tesla. breaking out here today to a new 52-week high. Tesla is up 3.5%. You've got Ramaswamy and Elon headed to Washington today, Perry. They're going to go around just like, what, Hexeth has been going around, shaking hands with the Senators, trying to sell himself to the Senators. The Attorney General, Bondi, she's been going around selling herself. Today, you're going to have the richest man in the world wandering the halls of Congress along with Vivek. Reminds me of themselves.
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Remember the old downsizing days where the consultants come in, right? And, hey, what do you do? What do you do? And I think the whole movie was office space. But they're coming in and Hey, what's your job? Can we get rid of this? Can we get rid of that?
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How can we be efficient? Yes, okay. I wish them luck, the best of luck. But I've got to believe that has something to do with Tesla hitting a new all-time high. Not a new all-time high. The all-time high is 414. But it's closing in. It's at 370 right now.
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I forget it. I think it was one of the CEOs for, I think it was 3G Capital, which I believe was out of Brazil, if I'm not mistaken. But they partnered with Buffett years ago, I think on the craft deal and some other stuff. But their CEO had a saying that always got me was, uh expenses are like fingernails they always need to be trimmed and you know i think i think you know when you you take uh you know government budgets and bloating right i mean usually that you know i don't know how often that budget goes down usually you know likely just goes up every year and there are some years certainly over the last 20 25 years where it needed to go the other direction and you know now it's time for the for the pain to get there i guess
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Well, I heard a statistic, I think it was last night on the news, that while the size of our population has grown by 2% to 3%, government spending has grown by 53%. So there you go. Okay. So look, revenue comes from the population. If you're growing your population by 2%, your revenue, unless the economy, yes, you get some growth out of the economy, but your revenue is not growing by 53%. It's growing in low single digits while the spending, I mean, that's just not sustainable. There's another thing for me like Bitcoin that's not built on a true principle. And eventually, you know, true principles eventually went out. And these false notions and ideas, they don't end up well. And you could see inflation like nothing we've ever seen before if we're not careful here. So anyways, you've got to build on sound principles with truth behind them. Okay, let's take a look at the... There's not much happening in the Dow. The one that catches my eye on the Dow is UnitedHealthcare, which is a very strange story. Now they're finding that there were words engraved on those bullets. And, of course, I mean, they have the video of him walking up right behind him with a long pistol or a gun of some sort and killing him. And then going off, they got his iPhone, and they've got, like, a wrapper from some snacks he was eating. So I would think they'd get plenty of DNA or fingerprints. But what in the world is behind that? That is one weird story.
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On the bullet casings, too? I don't know if you said that.
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Yes, on the bullet casings. Deny, deflect, defend, I think. Really strange. Now, okay, so the Dow, that's the one that catches my eye on the Dow. Salesforce, which kind of set off the huge rally yesterday, is pulling back a little bit. It's down 2% today. Now, if we go to the S&P 500 today, let's see what's moving. It's definitely a profit-taking day. American Airlines is up 13.3%. Maybe they're buying more Bitcoin. I don't know. But they're up 13.3%. Brown Foreman which is alcohol up 9.9. Tesla. Tesla is probably the one of note there today. It's up 3.5% there today and that's a breakout on Tesla and for some reason the airlines are up today. There's got to be a reason. There's got to be a new transportation secretary. Something is out there on the airline stocks. I'm not a fan of the airline stocks. On the downside, you've got a chip stock getting hit pretty hard, Synopsys. which makes software to design chips, Synopsys is down 11.8%, and that's bringing down the chip stocks. Cadence is down 4.3%, Intel is down 3.7%, and other applied materials is down 3.5%, LAM Research is down 3.5%. So the chip stocks are, which had a pretty good day yesterday because of Marvell technology. Okay, and then we go to the NASDAQ, and we're seeing the same thing in the NASDAQ pretty much. American Airlines is the big winner in the NASDAQ today. Tesla number two. Up 3.5% at the bottom of the heap. Synopsis, cadence, mostly semiconductor stocks. Okay, well, we're adding people every day. I'm having so much fun teaching these classes every day. You know, some days are more active than others. It depends on the market. I would suspect today will be a little quieter than yesterday, but we did a lot of stuff yesterday, and I try to always explain things, and I always say, look, this stock we're buying is an investment. It's in our portfolios. The other ones that are in the incubator account are more trades, and I identify which are which, and I'm trying to teach buying and selling and when and where and how. Well, you try to give the reasons why. Yeah, exactly.
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You give the reasons why versus a lot of these services, it's, hey, buy this.
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Yes, and I always involve a chart, you know, so it's not like, trust me, just trust me. No, you make your own decision. I'm just telling you what I've observed over the years and what I see right now and why I like it and this and that. And then they ask me, Are you going to let us know when you sell? Well, of course I am, okay? That sometimes is harder than anything else. And I did make a big sell yesterday.
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Buying is way more fun, right?
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Yes, anybody can buy. But we did sell a position yesterday for a 9.8% loss, okay? And there's a lesson there also. Four free weeks of a master class on buying and selling in the market from a guy who's been doing it for 25 years. Just paper trade along. That's all. Learn. Observe. Go to GundersenCapital.com. You say, no, I'm going to let someone else do it for me. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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There's five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster and Colorado Springs. How I got to know them. It's a very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties that want to control things. And you can find that whole story at my website. That is at Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. another great sponsor of the show is laramie energy and our oil gas and coal industries are under attack because these provide reliable efficient affordable and abundant energy sources and then we are able to power our lives fuel our hopes and dreams that industry is under attack but we're we're learning more and more about this whole agenda out there um the biden administration though It is just pushing all kinds of money out on the Green New Deal, which actually the Green New Deal is about the green that's going into people's pockets. And it's cronyism at – it's on steroids right now. That's about all that I can say. So that's why I would recommend – get your brain around this issue and check out a climateconversation.com which is the website for the documentary a climate conversation which is the project of wall johnson and we have been doing these amazing podcasts with um scientists experts in the field and you will learn a lot so be sure and check out a climateconversation.com our word of the day Let me, hopefully I did not erase that. Hold on here. Getting over to our word of the day is ingenuity. And it could be number one, skill or being clever, devising or combining, or it could be an ingenious device or contrivance. So ingenuity. I would say ingenuity is being very creative and tapping into that. So it's spelled I-N-G-E-N-U-I-T-Y. And your challenge is to use ingenuity in a sentence today. And I find great hope that those with ingenuity and creativity in this new administration will be able to thrive and prosper instead of the cronies of what we saw in the Biden administration. Our quote of the day, I went to Henry Hazlitt because our featured guest in the second hour is Jay Davidson. He's a fan favorite. He's a sponsor of the show as well, CEO and founder of First American State Bank. And he had commented on a piece that was in the Wall Street Journal that had referred to Henry Hazlitt's book, The Road to Serfdom. and of course we're going through henry hazel's book with producer joe and producer luke on economics in one lesson but henry hazlitt was born in 1894 he died in 1993. he was an american journalist economist and philosopher known for his advocacy of free markets and classical liberal principles over a career spanning more than seven decades hazlitt wrote extensively on business economics and public policy for prominent publications including the wall street journal The Nation, The American Mercury, Newsweek, and The New York Times. And he is best known for his 1946 book, Economics in One Lesson. And it is a work grounded in the Austrian School of Economics. And this is what he said. He said, for every alleged benefit that the politicians confer upon us, they must necessarily deprive us of something else. So I think that's pretty important. Again, that's from Henry Hazlitt. Let's see. This day in history. 1848, U.S. President James K. Polk triggers a gold rush in 1849 by confirming a gold discovery in California. Wow. In 1862, during the Civil War, the Battle of Coffeyville, the Confederate forces halt Ulysses S. Grant's Mississippi invasion via Tennessee. 1933, Prohibition ends in the U.S. when the 21st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is ratified and the 18th Amendment is repealed. This is interesting because we're coming up on the attack upon Pearl Harbor. But what is amazing regarding Pearl Harbor is that our aircraft carriers were not there because they obviously would have been hit, and that would have changed the dynamics of the war in the Pacific. So 1941, this is two days before we're attacked, the U.S. aircraft carrier Lexington and five heavy cruisers leave Pearl Harbor. And then in 1964, Captain Roger Dodlin and Captain Roger Dodlin was a very good friend of Drew Dick's. And Captain Roger Dodlin is awarded the first Medal of Honor of the Vietnam War for successfully repelling a large Viet Cong attack. And Roger passed on just recently. But very good friend of Drew Dix and Drew Dix's Medal of Honor recipient as well for actions that he took during the Vietnam War. And I don't think that we quite understand just how special the Center for American Values is, which is located in Pueblo. and the portraits of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients, I would highly recommend over Christmas break that you put the kids in the car and go visit the center. It is located on the Arkansas River, on the Riverwalk there of the Arkansas River in Pueblo, and it is really a reverent place. It's inspiring, and there's great restaurants around there, so I would recommend that you I recommend you do that. Put the kids in the car and go down to the Center for American Values. If you want more information regarding their hours, check out their website. That is AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. Thank you so much. The first one that I have, this is from Fox News, and it says it's an appeals court rules that the U.S. can deport illegal immigrants despite local objections, which is a win for the incoming Trump administration. And it says the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling rejected a 2019 local executive order that sought to counter then President Trump's immigration policies, saying that King County, Washington, violated its contract by prohibiting deportations at King County International Airport, which is also known as Boeing Field. The court ruled that the order was unlawful because it discriminated against ICE and targeted federal operations. In 2019, Trump used Boeing fields to deport illegal migrants from the U.S. and the local county sought to block the president's removal operations. Says the order prompted ICE to begin using an airport in Yakima, Washington, a much longer drive from ICE's Northwest Detention Center for the deportation flights. The relocation increased operational costs due to the greater distance from ICE detention facilities to the airport. It also led to increased security concerns. Of course, it would. It says, in response, the legal battle with King County ensued, and the U.S. in 2020 sued the county, alleging that it violated the terms of a World War II era contract that guarantees the federal government's right to use the airport along with discriminating against ICE. And this ruling was on Friday, the 30th of November. And Ninth Circuit Judge Daniel A. Bress upheld the court's decision. And in the ruling obtained by Fox News Digital, he wrote that this is not a situation in which King County officials are being conscripted into carrying out federal immigration laws on the federal government's behalf. Instead, the United States is asking King County, in its capacity as the owner of a public airport facility, to lift a discriminatory prohibition on private parties' ability to engage in business with the federal government that supports federal immigration efforts, the ruling states. So I think that that's a pretty big deal. Next thing that I wanted to mention, and we had Brandon Wark on earlier this week regarding this Democrat strategy of Democrats running for office. getting elected and then vacating that seat where a vacancy committee will then come in and make the decision on who will then, a Democrat vacancy committee will determine who will then be seated in either the Senate or the House of Representatives. So this is from Colorado Politics and It says State Representative Iman Jodah announces for State Senate District 29. And that is the seat that's being vacated by Janet Buckner. Jodah won reelection in her third term in the House in November. She is the first Muslim and Palestinian American elected to the Colorado General Assembly. An Arapahoe County Democrat vacancy committee will choose Buckner's successor on January 6th. Buckner announced last month that she would step down on January 9th. She won re-election for the seat on November 5th, running unopposed. Joda has a long history with the Buckner family, whom she's known since she was four. One of Buckner's daughters has been friends with Joda since elementary school. In 2021, in an interview, Joda told Colorado Politics that her parents came to Colorado from Palestine as immigrants and refugees in 1974. She says she grew up an all-American girl watching Broncos football games and visiting the mountains. But her family's history was never left behind, and their summers were spent in Palestine. While those summers spent with her grandmother were happy, she also saw what was happening there. So she said Monday that running for the Senate vacancy allows her to expand representation into a larger district. My experience as a state representative allows me to bring solid representation, one in which every voice is heard and valued at the Capitol. She said, I will be unapologetic in advocating for Senate District 29. So stay tuned on that. That's going to be super interesting. And then the last headline that I'm going to hit right now is this is from Bloomberg. And it says thousands of federal employees land work from home deal ahead of Trump. And it says the Biden administration point he has agreed to lock in hybrid work protections for tens of thousands of Social Security staff, part of a slew of organized labor efforts that complicate President-elect Donald Trump's efforts to reshape the federal workforce. It says the American Federation of Government Employees and even FDR didn't think that government employees should have a union. But it's a union representing 42,000 Social Security Administration workers reached an agreement with the agency last week that will protect telework until 2029 in an updated contract, according to a message to its members viewed by Bloomberg. And we recall where with the meeting with Trump and Biden, Biden said that there will be a smooth transition. But on their way out the door, they are pushing out as much money as they can, making these kinds of contracts, trying to thwart and complicate what the people of America are asking Trump to do, and that is to shrink government. 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It's great to be with you once again, Kim. Thank you for inviting me.
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Well, yes. And the Supreme Court is in session. And this is part of a term. Explain that. And you did such a good job the last time you were on the show. But for people that missed that, explain how this works with the Supreme Court, how they're hearing cases, how they'll make their decisions. I guess the time frame, really.
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Well, for historic reasons, this is called the 2023 term. Actually, this is a 2024 term and will continue to be the 2024 term through about June 30th. And that's because the term began on October 2024. And so the court begins to take up cases. It decides which ones that it wants to hear. Nearly all cases that go to the Supreme Court are the result of an application or a petition for what's called a writ of certiorari. which is a discretionary review by the court. In other words, very rarely do you actually have the right to be heard by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court rejects or accepts cases at its discretion. It decides which cases to grant certiorari in, that is to say, which cases to hear. And then it sets up oral argument. So we saw, for example, the transgender case, Skirmati v. United States, oral argument was heard the other day oral argument will continue really for months now and then so is the oral argument for this case done or do they continue to have that as far as I know the oral argument for that case is done but there will be a lot of others and the court will start issuing opinions initially in a dribble and eventually in a flood. terminating by an absolute deluge toward the end of June.
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Okay. So this was a very important case that was heard and the headline that I found is apparently Judge Brown Jackson said something that was very, I think, controversial regarding this whole transgender case. So set this up for this particular case because I think it really is important.
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Well, I think the place to start is not with the court but with politics. Why is it that suddenly transgender issues are a fixation with the media and with the left? Why is it that the term gender-affirming care has been invented to signify the denial of someone's gender? And the reason is that basically traceable to Obamacare. Obamacare was adopted in 2010. And while it was ambiguous on the issue of whether gender transition care or surgery was covered, the bureaucracy, including the health care bureaucracy, assumed that it was and started giving Health insurance companies started covering these kinds of operations and drugs. And the federal government, notably the Obama administration, and then later the Biden administration, began to push insurance companies further toward covering if they didn't already. The result was that a new interest group was created. This interest group consists of partly transgender individuals, but more powerfully, the whole health care lobby, particularly those people who do transgender work. And so the left saw this as a potential element in the coalition and started speaking to their issues to enlist that lobby. So the reason we're hearing so much about this is, as so often happens, Kim, a federal spending program. Federal spending programs have all kinds of unintended and unknown consequences, mostly bad. And this is one example. So the next big development was a case decided in 2020 called the Bostock case. And in it, the Supreme Court held that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which banned discrimination based on sex and was clearly designed to prevent discrimination against women, would be interpreted to mean discrimination for any reasons connected to sex. So instead of merely being a statute that protected women and men against discrimination, it would now be interpreted to mean cover homosexuals and transgender individuals. That, again, was clearly not the intent of Congress at all. We can explain why the court did what it did, but I don't want to get that far into the weeds. Anyway, based on the notion that sex is a legally protected category and that that includes transgenderism, The current case was brought against the Tennessee law that prohibits the use of so-called gender-affirming care for minors. The claim in this case is not a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The claim is that this particular decision by the Tennessee legislature violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. And so that's really what the parties are arguing right now, whether a law that protects minors against this kind of, I would say, abuse somehow violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
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It's unbelievable to me. And thank you for setting this up. I didn't quite understand that. But for you to connect the politics with the courts, I think that's really important. But Rob, how? The moral thing, you mentioned the healthcare lobby, and we've had Pam Long on, who she'd done research on over a lifetime, transgender, I don't want to say care, because I don't think that's the right word, but the transgender operations and pharmaceuticals that somebody has to take and do over a lifetime is close to a million dollars or more.
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Yeah, I mean these people become permanent patients and therefore permanent consumers of government funds, insurance company funds, and permanent users of health care services. I would think – the news reports seem to suggest based upon the judge's questions that the Tennessee law against inflicting this stuff on minors is going to be upheld. I would hope so. For one reason, one reason is I think the court has learned something, hopefully, from its experience with Roe versus Wade. You cannot federalize an issue like this. Health care was designed by the founders of our Constitution to be a state issue. with health care issues being resolved in state legislatures or locally or by families, not by the federal government. That was the great lesson with the 50 years of horrendous, divisive experience under Roe v. Wade, for the court to start wading in again and say, well, Under the Constitution, which of course says nothing about health care at all, under the Constitution, this kind of operation is okay and that kind of operation is okay. And it's okay if you ban it for people below 18 but not people above 18 or below 16 or parental – I mean – Those are the kinds of things that the court got into, trying to fine-tune what amounted to legislation in the years under Roe v. Wade. I cannot imagine them wanting to wade into that particular swamp again, but who knows.
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Gosh, and the money that is involved. And when we talk about health care costs, when insurance companies are forced and then federal programs like Medicaid, does Medicaid cover transgender operations or do you know?
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I think the answer generally to that is yes. Now, it depends to a certain extent on the state. And it depends upon whether the company – well, it depends on the state, really. But increasingly, the pressure from the administration, the Biden administration, has been to require the coverage. There is some material on this online. The reason I'm being a little vague here is that the material is also a little vague. Obamacare doesn't explicitly say that this stuff has to be covered. But what you see is pressure in the bureaucracy in that direction. Look, there's a point I think that a lot of Republicans and conservatives and moderates don't understand. And that is that every time you create a massive new federal spending program, you don't just spend the money and make the deficit worse. you also create certain toxic cultural effects. One may be increasing dependency, but another is illustrated in this particular issue, and that is that the priorities of the left, which generally control the federal bureaucracy, tend to become the priorities of the whole country because there's so much money behind it. You know how I first noticed this? As you know, I was A professor of law, this is where I taught constitutional law at the University of Montana, and I was there for 24 years. There's a cynical expression that some French people have, and pardon my French accent, cherchez la femme. Cherchez la femme means if a man is doing something really questionable or stupid, look for the woman. He's probably trying to impress a woman or there's a woman pressuring him. I modified that to – if you see something really stupid that's going on in a university campus, check out the federal program. Look for the federal program. There's probably some federal dollars behind it somewhere encouraging people to do this. And what I particularly noticed is the provost invited us for a luncheon, and there were 10 of us, and we all described our research. And eight of the 10 were all working on various political correct projects that – I mean, they were all – and they were driven by federal dollars. The two of us who were not was myself. I was working on constitutional history and a woman who was a mathematician. But everybody else was working on these politically correct projects because there was so much federal money and federal support behind it. So you mentioned the decision by the American people that they want government shrunk. Yes. It's not just a financial imperative, it's a cultural imperative. I mean, social conservatives as well as fiscal conservatives need to get on board because the size of the federal government and the priorities of the federal government are destroying the culture. And that, by the way, will only change marginally under the Trump administration. He'll make a few changes, but most of them will be easily reversible changes, and he won't be able to get down deep into the federal bureaucracy. The only way to get down deep in the federal bureaucracy is literally repeal and defund federal programs, make them go away entirely so they can't come back.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we need to work on that. I'm talking with Rob Nadelson. He is a nationally known constitutional scholar. And I have a few more questions regarding this case that was heard regarding transgender operations on children. And so we'll talk about that when we come back. I wanted to mention Doyle Glass. He was our guest for America's Veterans Stories last week, and he's written the book Swift Sword, which is the true story of the Marines of Mike 3-5 in Vietnam on 4 September 1967. And the week of the 16th of December, he has a national focus on his book and also honoring our Vietnam veterans. And so be sure and check out the book. I think it's a great book to have at home on your shelf or your Freedom Library. And I think it's a great gift for Christmas or Hanukkah for that veteran service member in your family. So be sure and check out Swift Sword.
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Back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And during the break, you heard the spot for Doyle Glass's book, Swift Sword. And as we learn about these stories of our Marines, it's one of the reasons why I'm so honored to support the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial right here in Colorado, the official memorials right here in Colorado. And so you can contribute or you can buy a brick for your loved ones to honor your loved one's military service. You'll get a great certificate that you'll receive. It's a beautiful certificate and just a wonderful gift for Christmas or Hanukkah. So more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Rob Nadelson is on the line, and he is a constitutional scholar. He's the author of the book, The Original Constitution, What It Actually Said and Meant. It's in its third edition. Rob Nadelson, words matter. And to say gender, when you say gender affirming care, that's not really, I don't think that that's accurate. It really is gender mutilation of young people. And I think that we need to speak truth into what this actually is. And then To have a Supreme Court justice, this was Kejani Brown, suggest that to prevent gender mutilation of children is equivalent apparently to the laws that were banning interracial marriage. I'm just floored that she would make that connection, if you will.
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They don't have much to go on constitutionally. And that's one of the few reads they're grasping to promote their case. The other one I mentioned was the Bostock decision. It is kind of surprising to me that the Supreme Court even decided to hear this case, but I guess it wanted to establish a precedent one way or another. As for the euphemism gender-affirming care, people who have indefensible causes will come up with ways to cut off debate or to cut off thought through the use of phrases and euphemisms. Let me give you a good example. You may recall that in the years before the Civil War, there was a dispute as to which states would be slave and which ones would be free. And Stephen A. Douglas took the position which he called popular sovereignty. The idea was, he said, shouldn't the people of a state decide whether they want to be slave or free? Of course, the problem with that is when he referred to the people of a state in popular sovereignty, he was eliminating mentally anyone who was black. In other words, it was popular sovereignty only among white people. But the term popular sovereignty sounds really good. And it excluded the fact – excuse me, it obscured the fact that it justified a majority of one ethnic group enslaving another. You see the same thing with the abortion lobby, reproductive rights, when what, of course, they mean is killing an unborn child. Again, it's a way of – blocking thought or unplugging our critical faculties through the use of words. It was, of course, summarized in the great George Orwell novel, 1984.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And guys, through the Biden-Harris administration, I felt like we certainly were living through 1984. So let's talk about the election, because with Trump being elected, I didn't even realize kind of this weight. that was on my shoulders because of the more onerous government and government picking winners and losers. Of course, a straight white male was at the bottom of the pecking order on anything because they were picking winners and losers instead of looking at people through merit, what they could do and do well. So I feel that there's hope and opportunity with the Trump election. What's your thoughts?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, let's start with the negative and move to the positive, okay? Okay. As you know, I combine constitutional scholarship and my legal work with my work as a historian. I'm trained in history. I have a degree in history, and much of my work is historically driven. President Biden has expressed interest in how presidential historians would rate him and other presidents. And I've written a little bit on this, and I plan to write some more. But if you go through the list of American presidents and you find which ones have been marked down low, you'll find that there are certain categories that tend to get them marked down low. James Buchanan, for example, is marked down low because he failed to enforce the law against the seceding southern states. Andrew Johnson is marked down low in part because of his highly divisive rhetoric. Woodrow Wilson is probably not marked down as low as he should be, but one thing that does weigh him down is the fact that he was mentally incapacitated for part of his term.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's like Deja Vu all over again, huh?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Some presidents... Wilson is an example, but also Lincoln are marked down for suppression of civil liberties. And then some are marked down for bad policy decisions. So I don't know of any president. I don't. Excuse me.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, Lincoln is. He was in the middle of a civil war.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and he got rid of habeas corpus.
SPEAKER 14 :
Was that the right decision? Right. Was that the right decision for him to do that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, no, and the Supreme Court slapped him down for suspending the rid of habeas corpus in an area that was not part of the war theater. But the point I'm trying to make is if you go down the list of negatives that get presidents knocked down, you'll find that in history, there's only one president who checks all of those boxes, who has all of those negatives, who has been involved in the suppression of civil liberties, who has had capacity problems, whose rhetoric has been highly divisive, who has failed in his constitutional obligation to enforce the law. And that's Joe Biden. We're coming literally, I believe, out of one of the worst, if not the worst, presidencies in American history. And I'm not saying that as a matter of hyperbole. I think that is an accurate assessment. And I think that will be history's assessment. Now, let's turn to the election, because generally what happens if a president is a very poor president, he doesn't win a second term. And that, of course, was the case in this instance. The election was closer than we like to think. Trump won in the popular vote by less than 2%. This is disguised somewhat by the Electoral College because he won a sweeping Electoral College victory. But we can't forget the fact that over 48% of the people voted – or 47% of the people voted for Kamala Harris despite the horrendous record of the Biden administration. And again, that is – I'm going to circle back here to use Jen Psaki's famous phrase – That is largely due to the size of the federal government. We have a tremendous part of the electorate that is dependent upon federal dollars, either for welfare programs or insurance programs, or they're protected by regulation or they're directly employed by the federal government. And those people tend to vote liberal no matter what the other merits are in the election. And so that, once again, points out the importance of the Trump administration getting to the root of the problem, not doing what they did in his first term, which was to cut back some regulations, which could be easily reversed, but to actually defund permanently certain federal programs. Department of Education is a good place to start. The other point I wanted to make regarding the election pertains to the Electoral College, and that is the Electoral College tends to reward candidates with national support and to punish candidates with mostly regional support. The reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, despite the fact that she had a tiny plurality of the vote, is because she was pretty much a regional candidate. And if you look at some of the maps of the counties she carried, you can see that. Her support was very spotty. The Electoral College assures that a victorious president, or almost a not 100%, but almost assures that the winner of the presidential election will be someone with broad national support. And that, of course, goes a long way toward helping to prevent the breakup of the country.
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Well, and that was really the purpose of the Electoral College. So we'll talk about that more in the next segment with Rob Nadelson. These are such important discussions. I learn so much from experts such as Rob Nadelson. And all of this happens because of sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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Well, welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. Rob Nadelson is on the line with me, and you know him. He is a constitutional expert. He's a constitutional scholar and author, and he's the author of the original Constitution. What it actually said and meant, it's in its third edition. Rob Nadelson, the Electoral College. was brilliant by our founders because they wanted to make sure that the minority voices could be heard as well, such as the smaller states. And so they came up with this electoral college, which the radical activists, Democrats, have really wanted to get rid of that. And you mentioned the national popular vote. And don't you remember that movement of trying to have different states sign a compact that said that their electoral college votes would go to whoever won the national popular vote? Well, and Colorado signed on to that compact. They still need additional states to try to make that happen. But if, in fact, that compact was in place right now, Colorado's electoral votes would go to Donald Trump. But I think it was a strategy to try to obviously circumvent. Well, it's obvious that it's a strategy to circumvent the Electoral College. So what do you think about all that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, well, let me start by saying that we really need to do a whole program on the Electoral College sometimes, Kim, because there's no one reason for the Electoral College. It's not just to protect minorities or just not to protect against regional elections. The development of the presidential election system, of which the Electoral College is only a part, was identified by the founder, James Wilson. as the most difficult task the founders had in drafting the Constitution. And there were something like a dozen different factors that they had to balance against each other. It wasn't just regionalism. It wasn't just protection of minority rights. A whole series of factors. And that's why I think it's worth an entire show. It's a date.
SPEAKER 06 :
We'll make that happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. As to why the left opposes... The Electoral College, the common theme that runs through all their positions is the breakdown of obstructions on central power and their ability to control the central power. So they oppose the Electoral College because it's a break on federal power. It empowers the states. It empowers certain minorities and so forth. And because they generally control the federal government, not entirely, but they want to be able to lock that up. And they don't want obstructions to that. It's the same reason they attack the family. It's the same reason they attack corporations. It's the same reason why they favor the federal government controlling things at the expense of the states. It's the same reason why they go against religions. The states, religions, families, corporations, business enterprises, they are what sociologists call mediating institutions. That is to say they're institutions that protect the individual so the individual is not standing naked against the centralized state. And so they want to do all of that. So when you hear them bad-mouthing corporations or bad-mouthing Christianity or increasingly bad-mouthing Judaism – or calling for a uniform centralized solution. It's all really part of the same theme, which is, we want the feds to control everything, and we will control the feds, and you will do what we say. It is a form of totalitarianism. It's not, as many people have said, your daddy's liberalism. I mean, liberals never really understood economic rights, but they certainly understood political rights like free speech. The current gang doesn't understand any right other than your ability to be controlled by them, even the so-called right of abortion. I would argue, is part of the larger agenda of encouraging family breakdown.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And so many young people have been really indoctrinated into this because so many of our different institutions have been taken over. Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
And people and if I could, people blame the public schools. So they have a lot of a lot of blame. But the worst blame is the universities. I'm saying that as a longtime former university employee. If you look at the polling for the people who are most far left, you'll see that it is disproportionately fairly recent graduates of universities. especially prestige universities. And many people, including myself, who have seen members of our family go through this process and been converted from reasonable people into far radical leftists, recognize that. Remember I talked about defunding federal programs? Near the top of my list would be an end of the student loan program and an end to to all federal funding of universities and university research except what is necessary to promote national defense.
SPEAKER 14 :
I totally agree with you on that. But the tentacles of this are so embedded. And so when I was on city council, I'm trying to remember this, it was a while ago, but I think that they were considering. I'm not sure that it was passed. I think that it was. And maybe it was for police officers. But there was the stipulation that you had to have a college degree. It didn't matter whether or not that college degree was in the field that you were applying for the job. You just had to have that college degree. Right, which makes sense.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which makes no sense. Even if college were valuable, you wouldn't insist upon a college degree if it was unrelated, right? But increasingly, college is not particularly valuable for life skills.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I think that we're going to see a big cultural shift. I think a lot of people are not being woke. I think that they are waking up. And this idea that young people have been encouraged to take on all this debt for a college degree. And then they're saddled with it for so long. It's just really, really a tragic thing. But I'm encouraged. We have a minute left, Rob Nadelson. It's always fascinating. We'll get you scheduled here soon for a whole discussion on the Electoral College. But how would you like to button this up?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'd like to button it up by letting folks know where they can see my writings. I'm a senior fellow in constitutional jurisprudence at the Independence Institute right here in Denver. And so if you go to independenceinstitute.org, independenceinstitute, all one word, .org, and go to the Constitution tab, most of my writing is there. In addition, you can acquire, either from barnesandnoble.com or amazon.com, my book, The Original Constitution, what it actually said and meant, and also a book I've written on the Constitution's amendment process called The Law of Article 5. That's more for specialists. But the original Constitution book is for the layperson.
SPEAKER 14 :
And again, that is another book that people should have a hard copy, I think, at home in their Freedom Library. I have several copies, and it's such an important work. So Rob Nadelson, I wish you a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Holiday Season, and we will get you scheduled to have that whole discussion regarding the Electoral College. So thank you so much. thank you kim it's been great talking to you and your audience and we learn so much and our quote for the end of the show is from henry hazlitt and he said when alexander the great visited the philosopher dion dionogenes and asked whether he could do anything for him dionogenes said to have replied yes stand a little less between me and the sun and is what every citizen is entitled to ask of his government So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Good morning, Kim.
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So what do you think about this?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I think it's interesting that the headline had to do with coal in our conversation last night, which was trains and the lack of train transportation for transformers or the lack of transformers. And I made the comment about, well, the reduction in coal, and somebody said, no, no, we still produce coal. Well... Here's an example, right, of cutting down coal production and the vulnerability of how we're all connected. And if things go down, and then you add to the conversation the cost, which as we continue the conversation of affordability in housing, public policy, mandates for electrifying, greenhouse, you know, green roofs, all those type of things increase the cost of houses.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I ended up in a debate with a face-to-face debate with Denver Mayor Mike Johnston during the election season. And he had this proposal for an additional sales tax for, I have this in air quotes, affordable housing or subsidized housing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that was defeated. But one of the things I said is if you... increase sales taxes then that increases the cost of things for people which makes their life less affordable it's like that's an important dot to connect and I think and the people of Denver did connect that dot because they voted that down right and he and I had that exact same conversation and I you know it's it's the story of robbing Peter to pay Paul right and
SPEAKER 16 :
So you take money from the people who want to support the city and county of Denver through purchasing products and services, and then you earmark it for another group of people. And if we would have allowed supply to increase, That also would have created affordability, and we have so many restrictions on building that supply got way behind, which again increased property values, median home prices, and it just seems to acerbate itself, and yet on a positive note. We have houses to sell during the holiday season, and people are still thinking about buying and selling, and there's opportunity out there. Sellers that are on the market over the holidays generally have a need to sell, and so there might be more negotiating opportunity. So I'm working, and people are achieving homeownership and the dream of, and so that part's great.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it is. And some people that I know are selling their home and buying another home, and you are helping them with that. And I'm just amazed at the, I would say, kind of the stable of experts that you have, that you work with, home inspectors. And I just kind of gleaned some of this information from our conversations, Karen, that you have people that... If you need to fix something in a home to get it ready for sale, you have a whole group of people that are real professionals that you work with and can really help people, and we say this in your spot, to navigate this home buying experience.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and I think people don't understand that my... job is goes far beyond locating the home, contracting for the home, and getting to the closing. Many people think it's just showing up and I collect my fee. There is so much that goes on during that journey and things that we encounter as far as through the inspection process. And like you said, Kim, I need vendors available. And so I have trusted vendors and I am able to reach out to them and say, hey, I need this plumbing problem fixed here in the next, you know, 72 hours. Can you fit me in? And they always do, unless there's some unforeseen circumstance. But they appreciate doing business with me because I appreciate doing business with them, and they bring a good quality of service and product to my clientele, and that obviously is helpful for everybody to navigate that. all the bumps in the road as we travel from under contract to closing. And I guess I think I believe I've become very good at being able to put all those parts and pieces together.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I can attest that you are, so I greatly appreciate that. If people want to buy or sell a home or look at a new build, what's that phone number for Karen Levine?
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter so that you'll get first look at all of our upcoming guests and our most recent essays. As you all know, I'm an independent voice. I purchased my airtime, which means I have full control over subject selection, guest selection. And... So we're blessed to bring great guests to you, and I'm really blessed to work with amazing sponsors as well. And one of those great sponsors is First American State Bank and Jay Davidson. He is the CEO and founder of First American State Bank. And, Jay, you have been supporting the show for many years. I'm going to be starting my six-year solo broadcasting here at the beginning of 2025, and you've been with me through all of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and even before. I mean, time flies fast. I sure appreciate all the good you're doing for this area and our thought processes here.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and you are a fan favorite as a featured guest. So it's great to have you on. And I want to talk about the UK. But before we do that, you are the founder and CEO of First American State Bank. And I always, I think I saw some of your ads sometimes in some of the magazines. And I was under the impression that First American State Bank, a great community bank, but that you worked with maybe higher worth individuals. But that's not necessarily the case, right? No.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, we believe, and this is a cliche, but it's true, we believe everybody is worth a hell of a lot, and we appreciate everybody. And, in fact, I've been actively trying to expand into the millennial and Gen Z and Gen X and whatever those other young folks are into that market because they're ideal for what we do. I mean, we don't do cookie-cutter banking. And if you own your own business, you need a bank like me, somebody that will sit down with you. You have access to us at any time. We're kind of like concierge medicine where you want to call the doctor. You know, here's my cell phone. Call me. And that's what we do. And you don't have to be high net worth to bank with us. In fact, we'd love to have anybody come on in and talk to us. We really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 14 :
So where are you located, Jay Davidson?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, we're in the tech center on Bellevue and Yosemite Street. Well, it changes from Tamarack to Yosemite right there. It's 8390 East Crescent Parkway, Suite 100 in Greenwood Village, Colorado. And you can go on our website, FASBank.com, and get directions to the bank.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and last time that we talked last month, in addressing this market of millennials and all of the Xers and Yers and all that, they like all this online stuff. And so knowing where you are is important, but you are offering all this online banking, which is exactly what they want.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I'm very fortunate that my daughter and son and their spouses... are all millennials, and every one of them is very computer literate, and in fact, my daughter works for the bank, and she runs our web-based products, and we just brought on an entire rather deep set of applications, I guess you'd call them. Again, I'm talking way out of my league, because I don't know how these things work, but applications to do all your banking. I mean, you want to take a picture of your deposit, send it to us, we'll deposit it into your account. You want to balance your checkbook online, we got that. You want to transfer money, we can do that. You want to apply for a loan, you bet. So our online presence has really been beefed up in order to address the millennial and younger people.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and then one other thing, speaking of your daughter, what is amazing about your family is, again, I've known this for all these years, is you are so supportive of many different nonprofits that are doing great work. But one of those is Volunteers of America. And your daughter has really taken this on regarding this toy drive, which is so impressive.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, she started this 10 years ago. I didn't even know she was doing it. And she's grown this into an incredible event. Thousands and thousands of toys are generated and provided for the VOA recipients. There's nothing more heartwarming than to give a child who is homeless or destitute, whose family is destitute, a gift over Christmas. I know it sounds simple and, you know, transitory, but Man, to see the light in that child's eyes is worth every effort. So my daughter has done an incredible job. I mean, I'm just blown away, and I'm obviously very proud of what she's been doing.
SPEAKER 14 :
It really is awesome. Is it too late if people would like to help, or is that ship sailed already?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, bring it over. No, it's here. In fact, I walk into the bank and you can see all sorts of toys. I don't go to my office anymore. I just sit there and play with them.
SPEAKER 14 :
A kid at heart, that's for sure. And what about if people don't have time to shop? Is there a way they could just give some money?
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure. Go onto our website, FASBank.com, and you'll see the toy drive icon on the top. Click on that, and you can donate right there.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, a wonderful thing to do this Christmas season and Hanukkah season as well. Jay, let's get over here, though, to something that we need to, I think, address. And this is an excellent piece that you had shared with your contacts regarding a Wall Street Journal piece on the new United Kingdom government gets a lesson in supply-side economics as businesses revolt against tax hikes. And your commentary on this, this was by Joseph Sternberg, I think was really important. So what should people know?
SPEAKER 10 :
Economics is called the dismal science, variously, and also really it's a study of human nature. That's really what economics is. It has very little to do with numbers down to the tenth decimal point. If a human person, an individual person, is stimulated to do one thing, he'll do that. And if he's de-stimulated, he'll do something else. Taxes are not stimulative in any way, shape, or form. They're a necessary evil, but they're not stimulative. They're depressive. And when I talk about taxes, that is the only way that a government can obtain revenue. The other way they can do it is similar to a tax. It's called debt. And And but that still is a expense on the individual person. It's not on the corporations. They pass that through. It's you and me and everybody else that's working for a living is paying the debt and paying the taxes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it's important to drive that point home is that government does not create anything. And so the only way that it can do things is by taking money from the individual and then also debt. In a way, that's also taking money from future individuals as well because that debt has to be paid off over time.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're exactly right, Kim. All government revenue comes from... from the citizen, from you and me, from the taxpayer, from the person that's working day and night trying to put food on the table for his family and get along in this world. It comes from us. The government doesn't generate income. And that's the beautiful thing about private business and individuals. They do generate profit. They do generate income. We are capable of doing that in a voluntary system. And that term voluntary is absolutely critical to the concept of capitalism and fair market trades. And the definition of fair market, as we've discussed in the past, is a willing buyer, a willing seller without outside coercion. In other words, a voluntary transaction. Now, I can sit here in the bank and I can offer you all these nice little products and you can choose to take them or not. If I don't take care of you, you can choose to go somewhere else. That's voluntary. I don't have a voluntary voice in the matter of taxation or the matter of debt that's put on my family and me and all future generations or on the spending that the government does that distorts the markets in which I play. That's not voluntary. That's mandatory. And I understand everybody will say, well, we need some of it. Yeah, we do need some of it, probably. But we don't need what we have today. There's too much.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, there is too much. And over the Thanksgiving holiday, we took some respite, the team, so that we were not up at O-Dark 30 every day. And I did a lot of thinking. And certainly... The federal government, Donald Trump has Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, and they're tasked with shrinking government. And I love that. But what I was thinking about, Jay, is local, county, and state governments is where I think that there's really embedded a lot of this government spending. And we have... staff that bureaucrats that are really kind of running the show at the local county and state levels in many ways how can we do doge colorado and so that's my new thing that i want to work on is doge colorado okay And I think one of the things is that we start to put pressure on the federal government to stop these grants that are coming to local, county, and state government because that's not the proper role of government. And so this is all just, I'm just thinking about it, but what do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
The whole rubric is spending, cutting government spending. That's the source of the issue. That's why tax rates are so high. That's why debt is so high. That's why private industry and individuals are feeling so much pain. That's why there is inflation, which is dollar devaluation. It's government spending is the source of this evil. And we need to hold every single elected person accountable, whether it's federal, state, local, regional, next-door neighbor on your HOA. We need to absolutely hold them accountable. And that's the function of the individual citizen. It's the beauty of the way our Constitution was built. Our founders understood human nature. And they said, well, if it left to its own devices, the government's going to become a monarchy or a tyranny, just like we fought Great Britain to end, and we're going to have it back in no time at all. Well, that's true. That's where we are today. That's why The rebellion in favor of Trump and against Biden happened so precipitously and so powerfully because people are sick and tired of a government, a woke society, ESG, DEI, transgenderism, global climate change, carbon footprint, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. They're tired of the government telling them what to do. In fact, they're sick and tired of it and fed up. So The point I think that you're making is that it is the individual and the business that is capable of generating profit. That profit, when left to their own devices, can be reinvested in the business. That will then grow the business, allow the business person to hire more people who will then benefit from capitalism. Capitalism is the greatest gift to individuals since the The idea of sliced bread. I mean, it's just incredible how well it functions. And it is truly the goose that lays the golden egg. And the golden egg is profitability. Well, our government is overtaking that. And Britain is a perfect example of socialism gone wrong. And socialism always goes wrong. There is not a case in history where socialism has not destroyed the private economy, the capitalistic economy. Not a single one. And yet these lefties continue to try and force these ideas on us. You know why? Because they know better. They're smarter than the rest of us. Well, I hate to tell you, but you're not. Anyway, I'll shut up right now.
SPEAKER 14 :
I totally agree. And I want to continue to talk about that. I'm talking with Jay Davidson. He is the CEO and founder of First American State Bank. And another great sponsor of the show is LaVockabee Company.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure to check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. I'm talking with Jay Davidson, CEO and founder of First American State Bank. First American State Bank is a great partner of the show. It is located right here in Greenwood Village. And really, they're doing great work in expanding their banking options to, I consider them all younger people, although some of these millennials are getting to middle age. Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you don't have to remind me of that, you know, where that puts me on that scale. I thought I was middle-aged. Oh, wait. Only if you lived to be 140 would I be middle-aged.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think 85 is now middle-aged.
SPEAKER 10 :
There you go. I'm with you.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, Jay Davidson, we were talking about supply-side economics and the United Kingdom. They're having a business revolt regarding higher and higher taxes. But so over here on this side of the pond, Donald Trump has tasked Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy with shrinking government. And so government employees are concerned about losing their jobs. I think people have a heart for their neighbors and are concerned if their neighbors lose their jobs. But if we get government to shrink and the private economy to grow, I think that there's going to be amazing jobs for these people.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, this is a difficult situation. A lot of my friends want the slash and burn routine, you know, pounding their chests and feeling good about knocking the government down. You know, I've been railing against the government for most of my life. And, you know, I... I'm not one to say slash and burn. I don't think that's intelligent or rational, and please hear me out before you scream at the radio. I think using attrition, in other words, freezing hiring, and when people leave their government jobs, don't rehire, and set a scale for reducing the number of employees would be more...
SPEAKER 14 :
I think prudent would be a good word.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it's a good word. Yeah, prudent, rational. And let these good folks, you know, that are leaving the government positions and the bureaucratic world, you know, segue into the private economy. It's a whole different world for these people, one that they're not familiar with and they don't understand. I mean, believe me, government spending has got to stop. It's got to stop now. It's got to be reduced now. We are running out of runway. So I'm all in favor of stopping it, but I like to do it rationally, intelligently, and over a longer period of time. And I think if we try to do it voluntarily in a sense of, well, you know, you can keep your current job, but when you retire or die or quit, you know, we're not replacing you kind of thing. See if that gets us to where we want to be. But the greater issue is the concept of what is the intent here? What is the overall cause? What is the overall rationale for what we're doing? And the whole rationale has got to be to establish rigid rules for government spending and not allow it to spend more than it makes. Make the government function within the bounds of its tax revenue and actually less than It's tax revenue. The reason I say that government spending should be, let's say, 2% less than gross domestic product or 2% less than what the government revenue is, is that we've got trillions and trillions of dollars of debt outstanding that's costing us close to $1 trillion in interest every year, none of which we can pay back. So every year our debt is going up by a trillion just due to the accrued interest. So this is wrong, and this has been going on for decades. And it's the whole mindset that you and I and other people like us are trying to change. The government cannot continue to spend the way it has been spending. There is an end point to it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and those on the left like to use the word sustainable. Well, this is not sustainable, and there will be a day of reckoning. But I think that we can make choices now and shrink government. And then I really think the government, the federal government, has no business anymore. giving out grants for special interests. And that is a place I'd love to see spending shrink as well. I don't think that's the proper role of government. And these local jurisdictions and county and state that are kind of getting that gravy money and doing things with it, which is not the proper role of government, I think we should stop that spending right now.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's a very good place to start. This is called cronyism, and it's not in any way, shape, or form capital cronyism. There is no capitalism in this. It is pure cronyism, and that has got to stop. The government, when they spend money, even Elon Musk, the darling of the conservatives now, took advantage of a government loophole. He said, you know, if you're going to pay, give citizens an $8,000 or $10,000 or $20,000 tax break, I'll make this car for you, even though I know it's not cost-effective, and I'll sell it for Y when it should be Y plus $20,000. Well, he took advantage of it, and now the government wants to take it away. Well, that's going to destroy his sales in Tesla. Well, Tesla should never have been allowed to go to the point it did. Much as I appreciate Elon and all he's doing, he was using the system. The other example, for instance, is something I wrote about the school system and the tax, the mill levy increase on it. You know, over 70% of the money that we spend on the, in this case, Cherry Creek school system and other ones, goes to the administrative function, the overhead. Only 30% goes to the student, to the teacher, to the classrooms. Talk about overhead. That's another example of local spending gone awry. I mean, it's just from the federal government all the way down to the school district. It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it really is. And in my voter's guide, I had looked at a number of these school questions, either new debt or mill levy overrides or both. And I found this very disturbing. For example, the Denver Public Schools, that bond request almost – let me think here it was a almost a billion dollars I think it was and and that passed and then a few weeks later at Denver Public Schools announces that they're going to be closing some schools and I I I feel like it was a bit of a bait and switch and I brought it up but a lot of people you know did not realize that that was gonna happen it happened also in Douglas County I think that it's a bit of a bait and switch from the school districts
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that. I don't know what their thinking is, but it sure does seem like it. I think people need to, you know, everybody remembers the teacher, the one that inspired you. Everybody has that. And I, you know, wow, what an expiring, great person. 99% of the other teachers didn't do anything. They were just there taking up space. I'm not knocking the profession of teaching. I'm just saying that we need to be more aware of how this money is being spent. And when the money is being spent on the administrative functions, then it's not going to the teachers in the classroom, and that's wrong. That's where my children, our children, our grandchildren are going to get educated. So I'm not trying to diss anybody's profession. I'm not trying to diss teaching, but I am dissing the overhead that exists in the school system.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and some of these salaries are pretty profitable for these administrators at many of these schools. And the other thing, though, back at the ranch, if you take a look at it, is our kids are not learning how to read and write and do arithmetic. So all this money is going to the school districts, and our kids are falling behind. There's something wrong with that picture, Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's so true. I mean, our national standing... On the tests internationally, we're going down. Every year we're declining. Now what are we, like the 20th in the world for education, educating our children? Used to be number one. What happened? Well, I'll tell you what happened. The Department of Education happened. I mean, everybody says, oh, well, we need a universal curriculum so everybody gets the same education. Okay, that makes sense. But then what's the reality of it? The reality is that the government now, the Department of Education, bureaucrats, now control the education system. And their incentive is not the same as our incentive. And you've got to face the facts. My incentive is that my child and my grandchildren and so on get an education. They're trained. They're taught to think, not what to think, but how to think. The bureaucrats' intention is to grow the bureaucracy, and that's all they're doing. So to me, I like the idea of school vouchers, of challenge schools, private schools, private education. Let the marketplace determine where you want to send the kid, and stop funding these ridiculous taxes for administrative functions. I think that we're just shooting ourselves in the foot every time we approve a mill levy increase.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we're letting our children down. And I think people, we do want our kids to have a good education. But a good education means that they will be able to read and write and do arithmetic. And there is a whole generation of kids that did not learn cursive writing. And just the cursive writing of the hand-eye coordination and all that is so important from a developmental standpoint. And so we need to reclaim the education for our kids. Getting rid of the Department of Education would be just fine with B.J. Davidson.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I agree with that. And we need to bring it more local, more state, more regional. My kids, one set of my kids has taken their children out of public school, and they're paying a fortune. These kids are in first grade and third grade, and they're paying a fortune to privately educate our kids, our grandkids. And the reason is that the education in the public system is terrible. And I'm talking about the best school system in Colorado, reported, reputed best school system in Colorado. These people took on the 1619 Project. They're just decimating our kids and their ability to think. So it's just an amazing turn of events here that has to be reversed.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it does have to be reversed. And regarding teachers, you and I both know those great public school teachers. And their hands, I think, in many ways have been tied. And we need to untie those hands and let them be able to teach kids the things that really need to be taught. And we need to... say no to more and more money to these school districts that are not delivering the return on investment that we would expect. So, Jay Davidson, I never know for sure where our conversations are going to go, but let's finish up again with the United Kingdom. There is at a point where governments try to extract so much tax revenue that businesses and individuals will say no more, correct?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, absolutely. I mean, why did our nation form? Remember the tea revolt? No more taxes. No more taxation without representation. I mean, this has been ongoing forever since the founding of our nation. And it's back at it again. I mean, the bureaucracy never dies. Woodrow Wilson started this game off over 100 years ago. Barack Obama blew it through the ceiling. And actually, the Bushes are not that much better. They're big government Republicans.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, people wake up. We got to find a way to elect people that are not big government, bigger government politicians. That's our avenue here. That's our constitutional right and duty to stay on these politicians. And when they start spending and spending and taxing and taxing, we need to fire them. That's our job.
SPEAKER 14 :
And we have to take that job seriously. So, Jay Davidson, always great conversations. I really appreciate it. And I'm wishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas. And, again, if people want to help with the toy drive at First American State Bank, what's the best way to do that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, drop off your toys at the bank, 8390 East Crescent Parkway in Greenwood Village. Or go online, FASBank.com. Or call the bank, and our employees will help you out, 303-694-6464. Okay. Thank you, Kim, for everything.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, absolutely. And I wish you and your whole family a very Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wait, can we say that now? Merry Christmas? Oh, okay. That's cool.
SPEAKER 14 :
So Merry Christmas, Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 10 :
Merry Christmas. Bye-bye.
SPEAKER 14 :
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So I wanted to go with those. Okay, let's see here. It says the only way to stop the spending is to get rid of the agencies completely. They will never get themselves under control and we the people will never organize enough to hold any of them accountable. It's sort of like herding cats. Thank you, Lynn. That makes a lot of sense. This question on what does DOGE mean, and it's D-O-G-E, and it's what Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are tasked with at the federal level to go through and become the Department of Government Efficiency. And it will be detailed plans for these different agencies to shrink government. So I think that we, the people, need to start DOGE, Department of Government Efficiency, which is accountable to we, the people. And I think we need to do that in Colorado, our counties, our cities, and all of these different places that we pay taxes. So, Karen, thank you for that. We're going to work on that. Let's see here. Oh, another one. Love, love, love, Jay Davidson. Okay. And Gammy said curriculum, curriculum, curriculum. That is a Marxist tool. And let's see here. A couple of other comments. Thank you, Susan. She says, I love Jay, but we're too far in debt and the small businesses and everyone really is so overburdened with all the government that we've got no choice but to rip off the regulations and taxation. Plus, the private sector really needs So there will be plenty of employment for those people who are cut from the government payroll. Okay, great. And goes on to say entire departments need to be immediately eliminated. Most of them are not the role of government and are unconstitutional. And then 100% of these grants are causing tremendous problems in local communities. In Texas, they're using grants to build sustainable energy producers like wind and solar and lithium battery storage facilities. And these are things that in the free market, people really prefer the freedom and mobility of their gas-powered cars. So you can see how all these government grants are all connected. Let's see. Next thing here. Thank you, Holly. She says, I understand what Jay is saying, but if another, well, when another administration comes in, if we only go through attrition, that they will simply open the floodgates for government hiring. So that's why we need to consider this slash and burn process, rip the Band-Aid off, shrink the size of government. If we wait through the process of attrition, it could take a decade. And by that time, Democrats will be back in power. It says when government employees are forced in the private sector, they're going to have to discover something that the rest of us are familiar with, which is a real work ethic, I think, Elon Musk. And Vivek are thinking the same thing, a much smaller government. So it's going to be interesting to see how all this transpires. Let me just see if there's anything else here that we needed to talk about. So So a couple of things. As we are moving into 2025, and I talked with the girls about it last night, our Colorado 2024 project, it is amazing what all of you have done as far as raising the money, contributing for these two lawsuits that are in the back and forth ping pong legal way that it works. I'm not real familiar with it. I'm learning on all this. I had hoped that we'd get these lawsuits filed and we'd have immediate decisions. That's not the way it works. But we got these lawsuits filed. The one with United Sovereign Americans was filed in September. And the premise on that lawsuit is, is that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress for our elections. It's a civil rights issue. And we're one of nine states where United Sovereign Americans filed suit. And Colorado is in that mix because of all of you and the money that we raised for the legal action on that. The other lawsuit is through Peter Bernager and Wisconsin Center for Election Justice. And the basis for that case is that our voter rolls are not clean. And that was filed before the election on November 1st. And that's in its back and forth. So our two things, three things that right now we're going to focus on in 2025. I'm renaming it our Colorado 2024 project, Reclaim Colorado 2025. One will be a lawsuit in light of these bios passwords, a security breach, and two, the fraudulent ballots that were counted in Mesa County, that we need a hand recount and audit of our elections. And then next, to propose legislation to fix things that are legal in Colorado but are not right. An example is 15-year-olds can pre-register to vote, and the minute they turn 18, then a ballot will be generated. And it'll go to the address that they registered to vote at. And how many 15-year-olds, if they move, are going to go change their registration? And so we want to work on that legislation. And then our DOGE Colorado project, Department of Government Efficiency. So our goal will be to... to shrink government. And so we've got a lot to do. And now's the time to do it when I say at the beginning of the show that you were made for this moment. I'm not kidding. We all were made for this moment in history. And it's a very exciting time. Our quote for the end of the show is from Henry Hazlitt. And he said this, when Alexander the Great visited the philosopher Diogenes, and asked whether he could do anything for him, Diogenes is said to have replied, yes, stand a little less between me and the sun. It is what every citizen is entitled to ask of his government. So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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This episode also touches on the recent discussions around presidential pardons and the narratives driving these political decisions. Dive into the complexities as John offers insights into the potential motives behind presidential pardoning strategies, especially given the current political climate. Harmony between past wisdom and present conditions offers a compelling narrative that seeks to engage listeners in reflexive thought.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. I got a funny text message in a moment ago talking about how back when I was actually owning my shops and the tech and all of that, did I ever get to the point where something just got to the point where it just wasn't worth it anymore, installing something, an accessory, whatever the case may be. Not often. But, yeah, I can say that there was a few times in my life where it was like, okay, why are we doing this? This is just not going well. It's not being put together correctly and so on. And, yes, there were some times where I absolutely did that. And I feel – how should I say this? I feel the pain, I guess you could say, when those things happen. So for those of you – for whoever you were that texted, I think it was Tyler, thank you, by the way, for that. I appreciate that. Very much. All right. Is Richard on, too? Here we go. Richard, welcome. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 05 :
Good afternoon, John. Thank you so much for having us with you. And we had a little technical. That's all right. We're all good. Yes, sir, we are. And just so anxious to talk to you about these sage sayings. And I heard the introduction.
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Yeah, so what happened to all those sage sayings?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we don't hear them much anymore. No, we don't. And that's what's interesting. And I started collecting them. probably 20 years or so ago and keeping a file because I wasn't hearing them much. And when I'd hear one or when I think of one, I'd make a list. And I put this list as an appendix in Made in America by Americans, not Americans, a couple of years ago. But I like trotting them out and sharing some periodically just to kind of remind people at how nice these are.
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Before we get started, why do you think that changed?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's a really good question, and I think part of it's a lack of respect and interest in learning from our elders versus the current influencers. That's the change of the culture, but I don't know why the grandparents' generation, if you will, are not using them with youngsters and any other reason than that.
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There's a lot of these I, you know, personally, Richard, will still use. And yeah, I'll admit sometimes I get this sort of like crazy, you know, side look like, what did you just say? But, you know, because to your point, again, a lot of folks don't hear these anymore, but I'm one where, yeah, to your point, we'll go through some of these. I think some of them have real meaning. I mean, I think they're not only fun to use, they've got meaning.
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Well, absolutely. And they can help us live a smarter life and have less problems as well because usually they're pretty wise. Well, one, I'm going to put two together and add my corollary to it. So one of them is experience is the best teacher, and another one is hindsight is 20-20. And so my corollary is if experience is the best teacher and if hindsight is 20-20, why won't the people who have neither listen to the people who have both?
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That is a great question. That is a great question. I don't know. I guess because haste makes waste.
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Yes, it does.
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I mean, again, I wish I had better answers for some of this, Richard. But, you know, again, some of these phrases are very, you know, I mean, they're spot on. Experience is the best teacher. I was thinking about that. I don't know. I was watching something or doing something last night, and I got to thinking that, you know, in most jobs, there's very few that this is, you know, not the case. But in most jobs, Richard, the only way to really know that job. Yeah, you can be instructed on what that job is going to be. You can be told how to do that job over and over and over again. You can read all about that job. But until you actually do it, you get in the middle of whatever it happens to be and you start learning how it works. And then when something happens, a mistake or some difficulty comes along and you start understanding that, hey, do this and it'll fix that and it'll make this better and so on. You don't learn that in any book. You have to learn that by experience.
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Well, there is no doubt that regardless of anything else, that if you add experience, you'll perform better.
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Correct. And yet we've got seems to and I'm not trying to pick on younger generations, but it seems like, Richard, we've got this expectation of, well, I've read about it. You've told me about it. OK, I'm good to go. And it's like, well, you might be. But what happens when that slight problem crops up that you have no idea how to deal with?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, generally, they want the same pay as the person who has done the job for many years.
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Yeah, that's another podcast, or not podcast, but another interview you can do on down the road that these do turn into podcasts as well. All right, give us a few more, Richard.
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Well, another one that I love is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And my parents grew up during the Depression, and maybe yours did too, and they never threw anything away. And as I tell people from my grandmother's, remodeling was a mop and a broom. Yet I see people today that will move into a brand-new house. and they'll remodel it before they even live in it, even though it was brand new, because they don't like colors or patterns or other different things. And it's just totally the opposite of the generation that grew up in the Depression.
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Yeah, and that's one where unless something really changes economically, Richard, I don't see us going back to that, I hate to say.
SPEAKER 05 :
I absolutely agree, and I see this generation... Doesn't want to own anything. They don't want to own houses. They don't want to own cars. They don't want to own a lot of things. But my bet is the generation after this will want all of those things back. And so the people that hold on to things and have ownership and can pass it along. will be greatly appreciated by that generation. Very true.
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This one I apply on a pretty routine basis because when you start looking at, quote-unquote, and I'm going to talk about this probably some next week as we get closer and closer to Christmas because of all the different scams and things that are out there, Richard, and they really do target certain individuals and certain demographics of people. But if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, and we need to make sure everybody thinks that every time they hear something because we've all been taken in once or twice or maybe more, but we can all help others not to be taken in.
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Yeah, you know, the get-rich-quick schemes and so on, which a lot of these clichés or these sayings, these phrases that we have on my list, Richard, will apply to even some of that. It's not only, you know, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. The reality is, you know, be careful what you get yourself into because not everything is what it appears to be.
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Yes, and one that's a corollary to that that's on here is, how can I hear what you say when what you do speaks so loudly? Good point. We saw that out of Washington very recently.
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Good point. You know, the other one that we can see with Washington, and it's going to happen, I think, a lot here over the course of probably the next year to two, is if you want to know what's happening, follow the money.
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Well, I think that's true all the time, not just the next... year or two. But we see that we see on media, especially people coming on and commenting. And I have no agenda in this, maybe selling some books or things. But the people that go on the TV and radio out of Washington generally have some type of agenda. They're tied to lobbyists. They want certain bills passed. And so we need to take that into consideration. The old consider the source advice when we're listening to those people.
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Well, the other one that goes with this is that's because they throw good money after bad.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that's exactly right. And usually it's our money, not theirs. That's right, because it's not theirs. As well. So I love one on here that's not political. It says, I'm so tired I'm breathing from memory. Yeah, yeah. And I heard you talking about your sleep pattern earlier, so I wanted to make sure to get that one in.
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This is another one I enjoy because I believe I taught my kids this over the course of their lifetime, of course, growing up. If you lie down with dogs, you'll wake up with fleas. In other words, be careful who you hang out with.
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And boy, isn't that true. And I can remember after high school, my parents talking to me about that. I couldn't understand really what they were saying. And lo and behold, they became wiser later because what they saw that I didn't became true.
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Honesty is the best policy. Of course, we all know that's a Benjamin Franklin phrase from years ago.
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Well, yes, and we know that. But why don't the people in Washington know that?
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Good question. And one thing I always taught my employees and my kids as well, it's another one of those things that I taught because it goes along with honesty is the best policy. If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said.
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Well, that's exactly correct. And we've seen that in spades coming out of Washington the last six months or so with the campaign and people saying things despite there being video evidence of the exact opposite of what they're saying that people could refer to. And it's just amazing to me how they continue to throw out contradictory statements.
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You mean like Hunter's pardon?
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That's a good example, yes.
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I mean, we heard for the longest time that that's just not going to happen, even from our president's mouth, and yet here we are.
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Yes, we are. And the other interesting thing about some of these things are who said them. So I've always heard this thing about every dog has its day, but I didn't realize until I was researching this further that it was Shakespeare that said that.
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I didn't know that either until I saw my notes.
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I would have thought he'd have been a little too highbrow to say that.
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Yeah, I would not have guessed that one at all. This one I use a lot. I don't say blind hog finds an acorn every once in a while. I use the blind squirrel. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again, and it's very true.
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Well, I guess it depends on which side of the farm you're working on.
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True, true, true. This is another one because there's real meaning to it because they actually used to use this on purpose, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Well, yes, and I had a bath on a back porch in a number three wash tub as a little kid before, and the Saturday night bath was starting with dad and mom and all the way down through the kids, and the baby was last, and So the water being so dirty that they were afraid they'd lose the baby in the bathwater.
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That's right. All right, so one more time, Richard. This is in one of your books. If people want to read more of these, how do they do that?
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This is in the book as an appendix of Made in America by Americans, not Americans. Perfect.
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and you guys listening, you can get that at richardbattle.com. And Richard, we'll talk to you before Christmas, of course, but for those of you listening, if you're looking for some great Christmas presents, Richard, you have a plethora of them there, and for young people especially, what you have would be great gifts for those young people.
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Well, thank you, and yes, and all books at richardbattle.com are signed. If someone wants it inscribed, order it, and then email me, richard at richardbattle.com. We're happy to do that. You can Find everything at Amazon, including Kindle and audio versions as well.
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Awesome. Richard, as always, I appreciate you, sir. Thanks for all that you do for us.
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My pleasure. Thank you. God bless America.
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All right. Repercussions of the pardon. We were just talking about that with Richard Battle a moment ago. Congress hands Biden, this is in Axios, a huge Hunter-driven pardon wish list. And some of the folks on this wish list, by the way, you would just look at and think to yourself, how in the world could anybody even think of having that particular person pardoned? For example, AOC, she wants a pardon for an indigenous activist, Leonard P-E-L-T-I-E-R, who was convicted of killing two FBI agents. This isn't like a white collar crime. This is a murderer that killed two FBI agents. Of course, there's all sorts of lawmakers that have turned things in to pardon not only President Trump, but also a lot of the J6 folks. And I can tell you that I highly doubt Biden will pardon any of those. Thomas Massey out of Kentucky, he has urged Biden to pardon Assange. who, you know, that's the whole, you know, Snowden, that whole end of things and so on. And it'll be interesting to see what happens there. I highly doubt that will actually happen. Now, that could be one that I could see Donald Trump getting involved in because both of those guys released all sorts of things that actually set the record straight in a lot of things that were going on that people thought was disinformation or misinformation that, in fact, wasn't. Anyways, there's a long list. And whenever you do something like what Joe Biden just did, you literally opened up Pandora's box. Because what he did basically was say there's no real checks and balances around pardons. It's sort of willy nilly. We'll just pardon anyone. Now, we talked about this in the podcast this morning that we recorded, myself, Neal, and Bob, and don't be shocked. Bob brought this up, and I chimed in on it as well. Don't be shocked if by the time Joe's done, he hasn't pardoned his brother, his wife, so Jim and Jill, the two Js, and by the way, himself. Don't be shocked, those of you on the left even, don't be surprised if Joe doesn't pardon basically the entire Biden regime when it's all said and done. And I would not be surprised to see that happen either. He can pardon himself, he can pardon his brother, and he can pardon his wife, which, keep in mind, she, of all of them, has very much been in the middle of this more so than probably anybody thinks. Biden became the scapegoat. You know, he's sort of the straw man, if you would. But believe me, they've been involved in it very much. So it'll be interesting as we go down this path to Inauguration Day to see exactly what Joe does. And by the way, the way these things will typically work is just like him pardoning Hunter on a Sunday night, or a Sunday, I should say, slow news day, be looking for pardons that would come out on a Friday through a Sunday. Because they make less news when that happens. We know in this world, in the media world, that the news cycle is down then. So the way that works is if you've got a big story that you'd like to not get a lot of press on, you throw it out on a Friday or a Saturday, even a Sunday. But typically Friday, Friday afternoon, Friday evening is the best time to do it. Because the news cycle has really ended for the week at that point, and everybody's gearing up for other things. And then by the time you get into Monday, you've started all over again. And so anybody in the news communication world knows that if you're going to bury a story, you throw it out then. So my point is this. If and when he does these things, look for them to happen on a Friday through a Sunday. And that's most likely when it will happen. And yeah, I would, I'm not a betting man, but if I were, yeah, I would bet on the fact that he will pardon not only himself, but Jill and Jim, so his wife and his brother as well. He already did his son. He's already opened that door. And it'd be easy now for him just to go through and say, well, you know, because of the political target that Hunter was, I can just see that my wife and brother and even myself could be down the road with this next administration coming in. So I'm going to go ahead and just do a preemptive pardon for the three of us. frankly, could happen all at one time, by the way. Don't be shocked, those of you that are on the conservative side of the aisle, if that doesn't happen. And by the way, those of you on the left, you should probably expect that coming from this particular regime, because the Biden crime family is huge, and they don't want to be thrown under the bus for anything. And the best way to do that is just pardon yourself now and get it done and over with, because if that happens, what are you going to do moving forward? What's our side going to do moving forward? The answer is nothing. It's at that point done and over with. 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All right, we are back, and it's that time of the week. Sunny Kutcher joining us now, Young Americans Against Socialism. Sunny, welcome. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
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Likewise. I hope all of your listeners had a wonderful and restorative Thanksgiving. It is always kind of a rat race at the end of the year here, so it's nice to be able to get some downtime.
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Well, let's just say I think we had a better one than what they're having in South Korea.
SPEAKER 14 :
That one could say so. Yes, there is a situation that has definitely evolved. And I think at this point now, so Marshall Law was enacted there. I think it was sometime yesterday. It's a large time difference there, but happened within the last few days because the president. Yoon Suk-yeol declared the emergency law on December 3rd, so yesterday, because he was citing threats from, quote, anti-state forces and was accusing the opposition party to be sympathizers with North Korea. Fascinating stuff. I do really feel like this is a sign that people are becoming more aware of the different influences that politics and global politics, the influences that are there, swaying the world population in one direction or another. But the military actually entered the parliament building. They went in and they actually ordered a vote. And so eventually the military has now stepped down because they want to stay on the side of the people. And the president should be. I think they're they're expecting him to either resign or step down because of his actions.
SPEAKER 18 :
Which, again, I'm not one that's in favor of any kind of president doing martial law. I get where he's coming from, although I don't think he handled that correctly. And really, for all of you listening, we mentioned this just briefly in the 3 o'clock hour yesterday, Sonny. But what's happening over there is, to your point a moment ago, They're becoming very influenced as a country by North Korea, which I just – I'm baffled by that, by the way. I just don't understand. You look to the north and you see what's going on over there. Why would you want to become like them? And this is where – why you, Young Americans Against Socialism, it's so important to teach our young people what really goes on, because right now in South Korea, which they've been one of our great allies, we helped them with a lot of their rebuilding of the country after the Korean War and so on and so forth, and they really have been a great ally of the United States, and yet, Sunny, it's like they've forgotten their roots.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely, and... I mean, we're seeing that all over the world. And I do feel that, you know, once again, this is an example of the, you know, there being a kind of a conflict or a conflict of interest with the government and the people and, you know, where they'd like to see the direction of the country.
SPEAKER 18 :
Again, I am baffled by this whole events, the things that are happening. Again, I don't keep up on what's going on in South Korea. I don't have friends or family or anybody there, so I don't know exactly what's going on on the streets. But literally, when I saw the news yesterday, I was literally... baffled by that. I would have thought, you know, knowing also how Christian South Korea has become, they've had one of the greatest revival movements over the last couple of decades of probably any country in the world, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. Africa's have a huge revival, but so has South Korea, as far as that goes. And, you know, putting all of that together, Sunny, I was literally just shocked at what I read yesterday.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is quite shocking, and I think we're seeing that all I mean, you know, on the other hand, in Europe, their their governments are also collapsing, you know. So I think people also with technology, people are able to get connected with the rest of the world and see that, you know, populism is is what's on fire right now. People want to have their voices heard. And, you know, governments are not OK with that. That is, like you said, what makes our work so important. And that's why we hope in the next year to really focus in on how radicals take root in our society. government and also get very clear on the systems that are in place in America that help prevent these types of situations from happening through our knowledge and different checks and balances.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and I wanted to dovetail into this, and I want to be as kind as I can because I'm not trying to, you know, beat up any one organization in what I'm talking about. And when I say You know, in this case, the church, I mean, as a whole, I'm not pointing out any one particular, you know, church or location or denomination or anything along those lines. But I find it interesting—maybe that's the way I should say this, Sonny—that South Korea became very, quote-unquote, Christianized— And yet now is becoming very liberal and sympathetic to the communist Marxist movement. And Christianity, in a way, I guess, lends itself to being more kind and gentle and so on. And I understand that. But that's not what communism and socialism and Marxism is. So I'm struggling with how does a country become more Christian and yet more liberal at the same time? If anything, it should be the opposite.
SPEAKER 14 :
that's a tough conundrum, and I think, I mean, that's happening here. We see it all over, you know. Especially in Los Angeles, there's been a huge, I guess you could call it a Christian revival. I think that, you know, when you go to some of the churches around here, there are a lot of young families, a lot of young people who are, you know, who are interested in faith and want to be closer in their faith. But yet they are, most of them, very liberal. And so you do see this really interesting duality, because it's almost like they're taking on this idea that having, you know, Christian values or certain values, family-oriented values, faith-oriented values, that that means you have to kind of be more docile and take a step back and, you know, live your life the way that, you know, you think that life should be lived in terms of our moral compass and kind of let the world fend for itself. But actually, I believe that Judeo-Christian values call us to be very bold in what we think and to create the world that we think that would be glorifying to God.
SPEAKER 18 :
Agree. And to me, this is just like you said and compared to what's happened in the U.S. And I've talked about this. I've been very open about this on my program. In my opinion, this is one of the areas where Christianity, the leaders of, are failing at teaching not only the regular parishioner but our young people as well. Some of the things, by the way, that you guys at Young Americans Against Socialism are trying to teach. And my point is, The church should be teaching civics, just like it did 100-plus years ago and somehow got away from. It's evident that we're not doing that well enough, because keep in mind, a lot of the movement that happened over in South Korea came from... you know, missionaries and the movement that, you know, that we had as America going there and so on. So, you know, I'm not pointing blame at any one individual, again, denomination or sect or anything along those lines, Sonny. I just find it ironic that they're now experiencing some of the very same things that we experience here, and yet South Korea will tell you that 30 percent of them identify as Christians.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Absolutely. And, you know, just to kind of show that when you lose faith in a nation like they have in Europe, in France, for example. I mean, I just saw a video where it said, you know, we're Islamizing France. Like, it's basically, you know, they've imported Africa and the Middle East into France, and you've seen what's gone on there, the burning of the churches. And, I mean, that's happening all over the country, and that's been happening for, I mean, at least a decade. And I've spent a lot of time in France, particularly, just because that's where my mom was born and raised. And so I would spend summers there, some winters, etc. And when you go there now, I mean, it's nearly unrecognizable. And I think that that's why people are, you know, especially in some of the European countries, Ireland as well, they are rising up because they see what's going on. They see what's happening with the churches being burned down, etc. And so they've gone the way of not being... at all connected to their faith as a nation. And I think they're seeing now what's been missing. A lot of people are moving towards that trend because they're seeing that the lack of faith has created this demonic energy that is spreading throughout our world. And just to kind of show that there is global chaos, just not only in South Korea, but France's government collapsed as well today. And so back when Marine Le Pen was running, She did not win. And so she was, you know, what they were calling her the far right candidate and whatnot. I think that people are pretty upset about that. And the current prime minister in France was basically pushed through parts of the budget that had failed a vote. So he pushed through, he used special powers to adopt that part of the budget. And the parliament basically did a no vote competency. no, confident vote, excuse me, on Michel Barnier, who's the prime minister. And so now he has to resign. So you see this global chaos happening all over the place. And I think it is definitely at the push of the people because they are being much more focused on what is happening in their government, what's happening in the politics, because they have a vested interest because of the way that they see their nation going.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, what I want to get out with you guys of Young Americans Against Socialism, for those of you listening, number one, go to the website, donate, help these ladies do a really good job. They're doing a really great job. Let's help them do a better job of getting this information out. And what I want to also add to that, Sonny, is for those of you that maybe are in the church and have some leadership roles in the church, and maybe I'm overstepping here a little bit, Sonny, but the reality is the material that you guys have, is such that you could take that material and intertwine it into some civics courses inside of the church, inside of youth groups, inside of, frankly, even young adult classes and so on. The reality is your material is made well enough to where anyone out there listening that has that kind of influence and wants to see some changes civically inside of their own churches, they could use your material, is my point.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. That is one of our main goals in the next year. Currently, our intro to socialism curriculum is implemented in charter schools in Arizona, 11 charter schools. And so we'd like to replicate that all over the country. Of course, it can be used in a homeschool setting. It can be used in a personal home setting, whatnot. but churches as well. We also partner with an organization called Her Voice Movement. You can download our curriculum right from their app. And we've been talking with them because they get into churches too, and they're trying to bring faith and prayer and fasting back into our nation as well in order to bring about radical change. And so we, you know, just like you said, if you are hooked up with a church and you want to get involved in your community and bring this to your community, that would be a fantastic way for us to partner. You can definitely email me, You can go to our website. So my email is sunny at yaas.org. Or you can go to our website as well, yaas.org. You can download these curricula right from our website. That's Intro to Socialism, From the Revolution to the Constitution, which we'll be, you know, posting more about. That's about American Revolution and the Constitution, of course. And we also had released one for Thanksgiving. So you can share that with your kids, you know, maybe as a post-Thanksgiving activity to help them, you think about what they're grateful for and apply it to their lives and learn some history about Thanksgiving. That's called giving thanks and celebrating freedom. So we're really excited about this new journey of our organization, really giving tools to families and kids to help them understand and appreciate what America is all about so that we can batten down the hatches and secure a future of freedom for our children and our children's children.
SPEAKER 18 :
And with the last election, I think there's a huge door that's been swung open, Sonny, that really enables this to happen even more than what it would have been prior to that. In other words, when you got the popular vote doing what they did in regards to Donald Trump, the reality is, to your point, people have woke up. They're tired of the wokeness. They're tired of Marxism and communism and socialism being shoved down our throats. You now have a grand opportunity to take your material and do something with it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, absolutely. And we're really grateful to be at the tip of the spear. And we'd love to hear ideas. We'd love to hear your feedback if you do. And of course, if you are inclined to take the next step with us directly in the fight against socialism, you can make a contribution or become a monthly supporter at yaas.org. And we are really grateful. We're a 501c3, so we are only able to do this work because of our super generous and loyal supporters. And, you know, our audience is 350,000 plus. And so we just want to grow and get this message out there. So we're really grateful for your audience.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, we're grateful for you. Keep up the great work, Sonny, and we'll keep supporting you. And we'll talk next week. But thank you for all you're doing. We appreciate it very much.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thanks so much. Likewise.
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All right, Sonny, have a great evening. Appreciate her very much. Young Americans Against Socialism. Go donate. Help get this material into hands of more and more young people. And frankly, not just young people, but families in general is what I should say. Hi-Fi Plumbing and Electrical is next. Again, if you've had any issues electrically speaking or plumbing-wise, give them a call today. They're right at your fingertips through that phone, 877-WE-HIGH-5.
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SPEAKER 18 :
All right, we are back. Joe, what's going on today, sir?
SPEAKER 04 :
John, have you talked yet about the murder of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare today?
SPEAKER 18 :
No, I have not yet. I was going to do that in hour three and three o'clock hour, and I just didn't get to it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, just, you know, you always... Have they found the person yet? No, they haven't. And by the way, I've just watched a video. The guy apparently was using some kind of silencer because the police said they found three empty shell casings and three live rounds. And when I watched the video... The video's from the back, but you see there's what appears to be a silencer in the front of the gun. But he fires, and then he has to rack the slide. Fires has to rack the slide again, and fires has to rack the slide a third time. So apparently he ejected three live rounds onto the ground because the silencer interfered with the functioning of the gun. Interesting.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Makes sense. But anyway, but if you want to know how sick liberals are, if you go on Axios or Being Liberal, and Axios is supposed to be kind of a neutral, nonpartisan. It's supposed to be. The vast majority, and there are hundreds of comments, they're celebrating this guy's death. Like one guy saying, one down, three more to go, meaning Cigna, Humana, and Aetna, right? I mean, they're literally, you know, may his soul rot in hell. I mean, they're literally applauding the murder of this guy. Yeah, that's how sick... Now, I'm not saying that, obviously, you can't... There are millions of liberals, but the ones that are outspoken... They are truly sick puppies out there.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Anybody that would celebrate the death of someone else, unless it's some evil dictator like Hitler, Joe, is just a lunatic.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And wishing that the rest of them would be murdered soon. I mean, that's literally what they're saying there. One down, three more to go. I wonder if he has any friends type of thing. They're sick puppies, absolutely sick puppies.
SPEAKER 18 :
And this is, of course, an individual that, yeah, has a lot of control when it comes to that particular organization and so on. But, again, at the end of the day, Joe, he's not making all of the ultimate decisions as to who gets care, who doesn't get care. And so on. And that's the final question is, you know, we have our final say. I should say we have no idea who actually did this. We at this point, they haven't caught the individual. Wouldn't be shocked if it's not somebody, Joe, that's just disgruntled with the insurance end of things themselves. That's my thought. But I could be completely wrong.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you know, he obviously targeted this guy. He waited. You know, they had pictures of him waiting for this guy to come by.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. It was premeditated.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was premeditated. So he singled this guy out for some reason. You know, the speculation that he had a grudge against the company is sure. But, you know, this guy, you know, it wasn't this guy personally. If there was a claim that was denied or something or some experimental treatment that wasn't approved, I mean, you know, read your policy. You know, you get what you pay for, and you don't get – You know, there's a lot of things you don't get. Well, you do get preexisting conditions under Obamacare, but there's a lot of things you don't get. You don't get experimental treatments.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, when it comes to trial, as you know, Joe, when it comes to trials and things like that, there are all sorts of things that come into play, and not everybody gets to be a part of those, unfortunately.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's correct.
SPEAKER 18 :
It just is what it is. I hate to say it that way, but it is what it is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Anyway, so they're looking for the guy. You know, they've got him on camera. He got on the e-bike, went into Central Park. They've got, he was wearing a half a mask. So you can see him from his nose up backpack. So anyway, the search is on, but.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and Charlie just said in my ear, very clear photos of all of this as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Very, very clear photos.
SPEAKER 18 :
Most likely this guy will end up being caught, but it's just, number one, it's a tragedy. It shouldn't happen, Joe, as you know. And again, no matter what this particular individual may have done in regards to UnitedHealthcare, Mr. Thompson, he's 50 years of age, by the way. I don't know the man, don't know his history, don't know his family history, anything along those lines. But any time somebody loses a life, that's tragic. It shouldn't happen.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's tragedy. And one more comment. This is New York City where it's virtually impossible to own a pistol and get a concealed character.
SPEAKER 18 :
That was going to be my next question. Did gun control work, Joe?
SPEAKER 04 :
No. And by the way, silencers, by the way, they're actually called suppressors. Right. The proper name is suppressors. By the way, in Europe, suppressors are mandatory.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep. Not here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not here.
SPEAKER 18 :
We make you jump through all sorts of hoops to own one.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that's the federal government, but in New York and New Jersey, you can't own one.
SPEAKER 18 :
You just can't have a period.
SPEAKER 04 :
You just can't have it. So here's this guy in New York City with a pistol that he can't carry. with a suppressor that he can't own, murdering somebody in the middle of the street.
SPEAKER 18 :
And Wall Street Journal did say that he has survived by his mother, wife, two sons, and a brother. So whoever did this, you just widowed somebody and orphaned, or you basically left two kids without a dad.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. Yep. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 18 :
Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's tragic. Life in the big city, John.
SPEAKER 18 :
Shouldn't happen. Joe, appreciate that. Thank you. I wasn't going to talk about that anyway, so I appreciate you doing that. I was going to go over at some point today. I don't know that I'm going to have time, so I may have to push this off until next week. that go into effect here in Colorado in 2025. And I would suggest that you all go out there and brush up on some of these. One of them involves, and I've talked about this a little bit here and Drive Radio both, but drivers in the state, this is January 1st, could be fined for holding and using a cell phone while driving. It's already illegal to text and drive, but just holding the phone, looking up a number or plugging in an address so that it comes up in your map or something along those lines, if you are caught doing that, you may very well be issued a ticket after January 1st. And you could face a $75 fine and two points on your license. The punishment increases based upon the number of times a driver is caught breaking the law, this law. In a two-year period. Now, as somebody that drives a lot on the roads, six days, seven days a week, and put a lot of miles on, I'm not a big law guy. As you guys all know, there's certain laws that I think we should be minimizing and not adding to. Unfortunately, this is one of those areas that's far too abused, in my opinion. It never fails when I get behind or around somebody that's either driving slowly, erratically, something's just not right, the first thing you do when you get next to them is look over and they're on the phone. And by the way, they could either be texting, talking, or dinking around with. I don't know what they're doing. But the phone has become a huge distraction in the cabin of most cars, and especially in the driver's seat. So as I've always said, if people don't police themselves, government does instead. So if people would have done this on their own and driven correctly and not had this distraction all along, we wouldn't have a law making it illegal to actually hang on to your phone while driving. You're still going to be able to use the phone, but Bluetooth only. You're going to have to use it through your speakers or through the head device on your radio, etc. You're not going to be able to be on the phone putting things in, even mapping things. in the future. So that's something that's coming on January 1, along with a host of other laws as well. American National Insurance is next. Paul Leuenberger, who's a great friend of mine, would love to help you with your insurance needs. He's a broker. He'll help you with whatever you need. 303-662-0789.
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SPEAKER 18 :
All right, we are back. Neil, I've got 30 seconds. Go for it, sir.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, that law about cell phones, it's what is known as a secondary violation. The other law, which is a secondary violation, is the seatbelt law, which means you cannot be pulled over for violating either one of those items individually. In other words, if a policeman came over to you and you didn't have a seatbelt buckled and you had your hands on the cell phone, he can't pull you over. These are feel-good laws that were enacted that virtually cannot be enforced by themselves.
SPEAKER 18 :
Gotcha. Gotcha. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you for updating us on that. I did not go through all the details of that particular law. I will read that more thoroughly. Thank you, Neil, for that update. I appreciate that very much. Hour 3 is next. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, happy Wednesday, Health and Wellness Wednesday. Appreciate you all joining us today. And as we wind down the weeks, as we head into Christmas, health and wellness, even though sometimes people throw that out the window as we head into the holidays, we shouldn't. We'll talk a little bit about that with Dr. Julie Gatza here at the bottom of the hour. Got a couple of things that I want to talk about prior to her coming on. First, though, question of the day from yesterday. What modern-day item made a cameo in the final season of Game of Thrones that would be a Starbucks cup? Which, I don't know how they did that, Charlie, because that doesn't really fit with the era of when that was going on. Oh, it was left in the scene by someone. Gotcha. So it wasn't on purpose. It was an accident. But they just left it. Gotcha. Okay. Today's impossible question. Charlie might know this one. I would never have guessed this one. Name the Oxford English Dictionary's Word of the Year for 2022 and its meaning. Name the Oxford English Dictionary's Word of the Year for 2022 and its meaning. Charlie said he knows this year's, but not that one. So I would not have guessed it. I know the answer because I'm reading it, but I would have never guessed it. So I'll give that answer to you tomorrow, but you can answer that if you know the answer. If you want to take a good guess at it, go to our social media page, Facebook page, and answer that there. I want to make an announcement. I haven't had a chance to talk about this much, but the Gaylord Polar Ice – that event that's going on out at the Gaylord Hotel. They've sent me some information on that and may end up with a few tickets that we can give away to that. But they brought in more than 2 million pounds, 1,000 tons of ice, for their Polar Express extravaganza, I guess you could call it, this particular year. And from what I understand, it is an absolute little work of art, something folks should go see. I did look today, and you just go to Christmas at GaylordRockies.com, and there's a lot of – it's really – it's advisable to make an appointment, get tickets ahead of time, make an appointment time to actually go. And I was reading today that it's kept at nine degrees Fahrenheit. They give you jackets to do the tour with because most people don't have that type of gear when they're going out that way, even though it's wintertime here in Colorado. But it's a really cool display, something worth considering. going to. And again, it's advisable to get tickets on the front side. And the reason why I was going to announce it today is because there's a lot of still Cyber Monday sales going on. And this includes the tickets to go out and see that particular display. Now, like I say, May here in the next few days or so, have some tickets we can give away. We're working on all of that at this point in time. But It's a 17,000-square-foot frozen attraction. And I know it's health and wellness, but this is one of those family-type things where if you've got little kids, grandkids, you're just a couple, you're looking for a date, afternoon, evening, whatever, it would be well worth going to. And they're very kind in sending things to us and giving us some updates on what's going on out there and so on. And they do that pretty much every year for us. Appreciate all of them out there and what they're doing. And the fact that this particular display is as big as it is this year, again, is something that really you all ought to go out and check out. And tickets aren't that expensive, by the way. I was looking today, and by the time you do some of the cyber deals, they're very inexpensive in the $15 range. Kids three and under are free. You can roll a stroller through there, but they discourage wagons and things like that for your kids. If you've got a young one that you want to put in the stroller or whatever, that's fine. But, again, this is typically for, gosh, anybody. It doesn't have to be kids. Kids would love it, of course, but it can be literally anybody to go out and actually see that display, and it is huge. So one other thing I wanted to mention, we've had them on as an interview in the past, InstaFarm. it's the little farm basically you can grow on your countertop it's all automated you fill it with water and put the trays in and it does the rest and you grow micro greens and i've got one of these and it works extremely extremely well It's fun to even watch things grow, but then actually once they're grown and you get to actually use them, you know, eat them, I guess I should say the nutrients that come out of the microgreens are huge. And the reason why I was going to mention this today is because today is the last day. They're 33% off. So just go to instafarm.com. I actually will have a link up in our show notes a little bit later this evening where, again, this might even go through – I think it goes through the 5th. So it will actually go through tomorrow. So if that's something that you're interested in doing, by all means, go check that out, and we'll put a link up. in our show notes for it and it's a it's again i have thoroughly enjoyed the insta farm that we have and again you can do all sorts of different trays and different things along those lines and i'll put up this special 33 off link in if you want to go to that sooner Then tonight, when you can go and actually look at the show notes section of our website, I can text you this link as well. So if it's something that you would like to have the link to sooner than later, send me a text message and I can get you that link. But 33% off. And if you've got little kids, by the way, it's fun just to watch things grow and see how the thing works and so on. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And Health and Wellness Wednesday, thank you so much for joining us today. I appreciate it very much. And as you guys all know, health and wellness is, in my opinion, one of the biggest things that we should be discussing more and more. And to the point that, you know, not to move health and wellness into politics, but it is on the political forefront with the nomination of, you know, RFK Jr. to Health and Human. services we'll see if he can get confirmed which i would be shocked if he doesn't and we'll see who ends up being attorney general and some of those sorts of things as well but it's it's you know they've even got an acronym for it make america healthy again so it's becoming a bigger and bigger deal because we're becoming a nation that's less healthy and unfortunately There's not enough, in my opinion, not enough shows or even hours in a show like what we're doing today that are going on. Yeah, I get it. There's a lot of different folks that are out there in social media. And there's you can follow influencers that, you know, go to the gym and tell you how to diet and so on and so forth. But in general, when we talk about just, you know, public service announcements and things along those lines, we really even our kids, we are not teaching people how to live healthy. In fact, we have big pharma teaching people that you can live however you want to and just take this pill. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. I don't think I'm too far off in that. Occasionally, you might see a pharma ad talking about health, wellness, exercise, and so on. But that's not typically the case. Big pharma wants to push their drugs. They're drug pushers. Sorry, I don't know how else to say it. They're drug pushers, drug dealers. Now, are they all bad? No. They're not all bad. There's some life-saving drugs that have really helped a lot of us live longer lives, more fulfilled lives, and so on. And I'm not knocking them completely, but lately, last couple of decades probably, they've really become more money-driven than patient or person-driven. And I don't think I'm wrong in saying that. You hear me talk with Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House on Thursdays about this quite often, and I've had other special guests that we've had on, and even RFK Jr. will say the same thing I just said. They have become very money-driven and not people-driven to the point that they will put people's lives at stake, not really caring much about that end of it, all for the almighty dollar. And so when I pick on Big Pharma, yeah, I mean to. Because in a lot of cases, they are not doing it the right way. And we do have an unhealthy population. And there's no reason why in the world that we live in that we have that. We should all be a lot more healthy than what we are. And it means having... Proper education, eating the right things, getting the right movement in, exercise, things along those lines, the proper habits. In a lot of cases, it comes down to education, which we do a great job, I think, at Crawford Broadcasting on educating folks on the political aspects of things. We do that on a daily basis. I take an hour out each week and we talk about the health and wellness end of it. And reality is it's costing all of us, each of us. Whether it's directly out of your paycheck paying for something you need, medically speaking, or in your tax dollars, it's costing all of us money to not be healthy. So we really probably should talk about it more than we actually do. And I'll pick on the church for just one moment. The church should have been a leader in this area decades ago. Instead, we gave that duty over to the other side. And I mean that sincerely. You know, we now have, and I've talked about this in the past, we now have yoga classes, which yoga is a cult. We've got yoga classes that have taken over and in some cases probably being held inside of churches. Because once again, the church allowed others to do what it should have done in the first place. And keeping people healthy should have been one of the first things in the minds of those that were inside of churches years and years ago. But church did it the opposite. We had coffee and donuts for Sunday morning service. We did potlucks where everybody brought everything under the sun and most of it wasn't healthy in the first place. And Charlie's in here agreeing with me because he knows exactly how he grew up because I know how I grew up. And the reality is nobody thought about any of that stuff. In fact, probably in the church kind of poo-pooed it. We sort of looked at those that were the health nuts, quote-unquote, as the anti-church folk. And so we sort of threw the baby out with the bathwater and took the whole health and wellness thing and sort of threw it away, if you would, and thought, well, you know, we've got the Lord on our side, so it really doesn't matter. Well, that is not the way to look at it, not in any way, shape, or form. But I'm not joking. That's what we did. And I know because I've grown up in that. And we literally did that. We should have been at the forefront of this, but we weren't. So we have a lot of ground to make up for. I feel as conservatives even, we have a lot of ground to make up for. And teaching people how to live a healthy life and a more productive life and a more sane life. And as we talk about on Wednesdays all the time, the better our health is, the better our mental health and everything else that goes along with it is. In other words, the better we feel, the better life is in general. And so, yeah, it's very important for me to do this during this hour. Speaking of... A nighttime habit, this is in women's health, a nighttime habit or this nighttime habit could be a key indicator of dementia. Neurologists explain the warning signs. And really, this entire article is talking about good sleep and how crucial it is for our overall health. Now, how does a guy like Donald Trump, who lives on literally four and five hours, get by? I've done... an hour, well, probably not an hour, but I've done a segment or two on that in the past during this hour, talking about how there are some specific individuals, the outliers, I guess you could call them, that can go on less sleep, and it has to do just with literally their DNA and how they're made. Not everybody can do that. But yes, some can. And you know, example in my own world. I can live on six and seven hours, no problem. I can't do four like Donald Trump does. I need a little bit more than that. But I can live on six and seven without too much issue. Rare that I even get eight. I just I don't normally sleep that long. And it's not because I don't want to. In a lot of cases, I'm just you can ask my wife. I'm just up. I sleep the six or seven hours. And when I wake up, I wake up. And I've told you guys for years, I don't use an alarm clock. I'm very unique that way, even if I know that I've got an early morning, whatever. plane to catch or meeting or whatever it happens to be. I don't need an alarm clock. I just wake up. It's the weirdest thing ever. But I may set one, but I never use it. I will always be up before the alarm goes off. It's just the way my brain functions. So I will tell you in our world, my wife and I, she's one that needs more sleep than I do to function properly. So all of us are different. So you need to, number one, know what is that sweet spot of sleep for you. And don't let anybody criticize you if you're somebody that needs eight to nine hours versus somebody that needs six. Some people just naturally need more sleep than others. So those of us that need less, don't be critical of those that need more. Because a lot of the sleep patterns and what goes on and so on, and I've talked about this before with brain health, has a lot to do with that. And other health things in our life as well, but especially brain health, which of course is where we start talking about dementia and Alzheimer's. So getting a good night's sleep is really, really key in setting patterns along those lines as well. I mean, there's been studies, my wife and I were talking about this over the weekend, Folks that work graveyard shifts, it's very well known that typically they don't do as well health-wise. I know there's some exceptions to every rule, but typically speaking, they don't do as well. Because our natural rhythm is to sleep when it's dark and be up when it's light. That's how God made us. And those people, and there are a lot of them out there that have to work nights, and I understand that, whether you're in, you know, whatever, whatever the job might be. You could be a policeman, security, fire, nurses, doctors, on down the line we go. Factory workers and so on. Sometimes they'll run 24-hour shifts and they have to work at night, and I understand that. My point, though, is typically speaking, it's not good for you and your overall health, especially your brain health. So these... inadequate sleep patterns and things that happen are not good for us on down the road. And yes, you can get by with it for a while and you might be able to motor through and push through and in a lot of cases even drug yourself. And what I mean by that is caffeine and energy drinks and things like that may go ahead and motor you through some of this stuff. But at the end of the day, it does affect your aging down the road and for certain individuals can even quicken the onset of dementia and alzheimer's now you may already be you have some of the markers for that anyways meaning that if you do you probably should even be more aware of this than others but i think just in general having good sleep having good sleep patterns and it's different for everyone As I just gave you an example of my wife and I, we are totally different in this area. I'm that guy that can go to bed at 11 and be up at 5.30 or 6 and have no issues. If I do that too much with my wife, I will wear her out. It's just everybody's different when it comes to those sleep patterns. So number one, know your sleep patterns. Don't let anybody else tell you what you need because you know. And then make sure that you get that. And make sure you get good, solid, you know, full sleep. There's a paragraph in here, if I can't get eight hours, would naps help prevent dementia? The answer is it's not clear. My suggestion is probably not. Because there's something that happens during sleep, in the REM part of our sleep, where there's that recharge of the batteries in our brain. I know I'm being very simplistic here, but that's essentially what's happening against how we're made. It's that recharge, especially during that REM portion of our sleep, that really makes things come back on track and gets us going again. And unfortunately, naps don't do that. So I'm not an expert in this, but I would venture to guess, and what they're even talking about in this particular article is no naps probably don't do much along those lines because of what I just said. You're not getting into that full, deep REM sleep when it's all said and done. So really quick, a few tips on better ways to sleep. Go to bed and wake up at the same time each day, even on weekends. I do that, by the way. That's something I learned a long, long time ago. So I get up at the same time whether it's Wednesday or Sunday. In other words, I don't sleep until 9 o'clock on Sundays. I'm up at the same time, which for me, that's anywhere between 5.30 and 6.30 is typically when I'm up. It just depends on what I have going on during the day, and that's typically when I'm up and I get going. So I'll do the same thing. Well, I have to be here on Saturdays, so I'm doing it Saturdays anyways, but I'll do that even on Sundays. So go to bed, wake up, same time every day. Try to exercise, but not close to bedtime because there's a stimulant there with exercise, as you know. Get natural sunlight for at least 30 minutes a day. As I said earlier, avoid the nicotine and caffeine. Don't take naps in the mid-afternoon because that can affect your sleep later. Avoid alcohol and large meals before bed. Limit the electronics, the blue screen before bed. Keep your room cool and free of sound and light distractions. Now, some people like the white noise and different things along those lines, and it may help you sleep better. Again, everybody's different. Do what works best for you. If you can't fall asleep after 20 minutes, get up and go do a relaxing activity until you feel tired again. So read a book, whatever you decide what works for you as far as what helps you fall asleep. And again, for everybody, that's different. Don't just look at what somebody else does and say, yeah, I got to go do that. No, you find what works for you and then you do you. I can't stress that enough in all this health and wellness hour. It's not one size fits all. You do have to find the things that work for you, whether it's diet, whether it's certain kind of exercise. Some people do better with high cardio. Others do better lifting weights. It depends on you, and you have to do what's best for you and find what that is and don't go off of whatever the fad is that's going on at that particular time. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. It is our Health and Wellness Wednesday edition. And, yeah, the whole sleep thing, again, I'm by no means an expert in any of these things. I interview a lot of different people, and I've talked about a lot of these things over the years. And, again, as I said a moment ago before going to break, the one thing that I do know is while there are some universal things, and we'll talk about some of that with Dr. Julie, there's also a lot of specific things that I think a lot of people get hung up on, and they don't tailor things specifically to who they are. But Dr. Julie joining us now. Dr. Julie Gatza, how are you?
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I'm good, thank you. Nice to hear your voice.
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Oh, always nice to talk to you. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving.
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We did. Thank you.
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All right. So let's talk about, because it's holidays, whether you've been through Thanksgiving, there'll be holiday parties, there'll be get-togethers. Christmas is not that far away. New Year's is a big day for eating. The reality is this is like an eating frenzy for like 35 to 40 days.
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It really is. You better be strategic when you do it as well.
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All right, so talk to us about that. I was mentioning a moment ago before you came on about sleep and the sleep patterns and the relation between lack of sleep and sometimes the early onset of dementia and Alzheimer's. We're getting more and more studies along those lines, which sometimes, by the way, when it comes to sleep, because we haven't been methodical about what we eat and when we eat, it affects our sleep.
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It really does. I mean, basically your digestion affects everything about your health. And so for the last 34 years, I've been focusing on digestion because once I correct somebody's digestion, you can pretty much tackle all their health problems that they're complaining about. So these eating holidays, the end of the year is always rough on us. So we want to do the best that we can. So we're able to pick the right foods, digest those foods and absorb the nutrition so that we're actually getting nutrition rather than it's just going through our bodies and using up our nutrients to try to break down unbroken down food. So the best thing that somebody can do is, one, stay hydrated. I know we're drinking lots of libations and all sorts of other things that come across, you know, alcohol included. And if you are going to drink the alcohol, have a drink, have a water, have a drink, have a water. Throughout the day, make sure you wake up in the morning, have two glasses of water. It's such a day. It feed your cells what they need and your system sort of just will thank you before you even do your coffee.
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When you talk about certain foods, by the way, being harder to digest, what are those?
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I mean, things that are hard to digest are carbohydrates, sugar, you know, mixed foods where you're eating a lot of different things at the same time. You really just want to try to keep it clean. You want to eat the protein, whether that's you know, the steak or the turkey or the ham or whatever it may be, eat your protein first and sort of keep it away from everything else. Let your body just recognize what it is, break it down, get the most that it can from the most complicated of the foods and the ones we need the most. And anything after that, you're going to win the game. So vegetables would be next. And then you're going to be full enough that you don't have to fill up on the carbohydrates.
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So at that point, you're like, okay, that dessert, yeah, well, I thought I was going to have some earlier. I've had enough other. I can push that away.
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You can push it away or you'll eat less of it or, you know, put a napkin over it if you're with the crowd and eat it later so you're not putting everything in at the same time and feeling so rushed to have to consume it all in a short period.
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You know, a great invention, just as a side note, that somebody could come up with would be like pocket, how should I say this, like foldable doggy bags to where when you're at that meal and you've got that nice dessert, but you might want to eat it later or even the next couple of days, it'd be nice to be able to just sort of slip that into something and hide it away and take it with you.
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Those are called cargo pants.
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Ah, there we go. There we go. You know what? I kind of mean that seriously, Dr. Julie, because it's like, you know, it's a really good dessert. You don't want to miss it. Maybe you want to share it with somebody else a little bit later. Instead of eating all of it, you'll eat a portion of it, but you still want to be able to enjoy it. But you don't want to do it right then and there because of everything we're talking about.
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Yeah, I agree. And, you know, I'm that type of a person. I don't really care so much about dessert right after a meal, but I would love to have it on its own some other time in the future.
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Okay, so in other words, like you said earlier, be strategic and plan ahead for some of these things.
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That's right. And, you know, one of the things that I've pushed so hard as a doctor to my patients, and whether you're healthy and you're eating well or you're, you know, making poor choices this holiday season or generally you don't eat well, One of the major things that I really push on my patients is to consume high quality digestive enzymes. What they'll do is break down your food. They'll bring the most nutrients that you can from your meal and it will help with your metabolism. It will help you lose weight. It will help you with all the digestive things that you may encounter. The one I like to use is Absorbade because it's a magical little enzyme that allows you to consume food and get the most you can from each one of the meals that you're eating.
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I could very well, as you've heard me say before, I could very well be a spokesman for them. In fact, it's gotten to the point with my wife and I both, Dr. Julie, that we pretty much have them on hand at all times. Just took a quick vacation over Thanksgiving, even took some with us on vacation. Me personally, and I've given you this story, but I'll tell all the listeners. Some of you listening, you might struggle with vacations. bloating when you fly and i know dr julie you and i've talked about this in the past and why that happens but for some folks you get all bloated up when you fly i happen to be one of those persons dr julie now i will tell all of you and i've done it now on two different trips dr julie take an absorbate as you're getting on the plane and you won't have that bloating it's true it definitely is true and you know if you take it before a meal during a meal after meal it's
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It actually doesn't matter that much. If you have acid reflux, if you have gas, bloating, indigestion, constipation, you take these enzymes and it allows you to break down those foods. Now you actually have a digestive system that's working first and foremost, most important, and aches and pains and digestive complaints start to slip away. I keep mine out on a bowl on my counter. I have them in my purse, and I just remember to try to take them every time I'm eating any food because it's better than taking a multivitamin to me, getting more of the nutrition from each meal.
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Well, I'll give everybody else a little tip that we've learned since doing all of this and, again, having you on and just doing more things that you recommend. I will tell you, and I talked about sleep in the last segment, one of the things that my wife and I have started doing, and I know it's helped us because I can attest to it, take one before bed. Right. Helps with sleep immensely.
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It does. And the other thing is on an empty stomach, it breaks down inflammation. It breaks down bacteria. It breaks down viruses. It breaks down toxins. Yep. So you can feel sort of junked at night.
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If you're a person that wakes up in the morning with a backache, take one before you go to bed. I'm serious.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right. Yeah. And I love that you know that.
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It's excellent. Folks, all of you listening, they work. Okay. I also know, and we'll go ahead and squeeze it in right now, Dr. Julie, that there's always a way for folks to get some samples. There's a special typically that they can get involved in. How do they do that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Good. You can go onto the website and you can get some free samples or 20% off your first order. And that website is naturesources.com. You can read about the Absorbade and you can also call up the 1-800 phone number, ask for some free samples or 20% off. And that's 1-800-827-7656.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, talk to us about foods that are rich in fiber. We hear a lot about fiber, and I think, by the way, in some cases it's been some misinformation because some of the fiber folks recommend are so full of other sugars and things that it's probably countering whatever fiber you get. But talk to us about fiber and what we should be doing there.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, the biggest loaded food with fiber is green vegetables, you know, broccoli and asparagus and spinach, and all these things have fiber in them. People instantly think fiber means they have to have wheat or they have to have corn or they have to have popcorn. And you don't want to get your fiber in your grains. We don't make good grains in this country anymore. They're all changed. They're all used with Roundup on them. So use the green vegetables as the first thing that you want to consume. And that will help you. Most people are missing the green vegetables in the first place. Of course, you're going to eat breads and cereals and pastas and pizzas. But, you know, the green vegetables are actually important for digestion as well.
SPEAKER 02 :
We don't really put together, at least, you know, I do because of talking to folks like you on a pretty routine basis, but a lot of people don't put together vegetables and fiber.
SPEAKER 13 :
I know. It's so odd.
SPEAKER 02 :
And part of that, I think, Dr. Julie, is the TV commercials and so on have trained us that it's got to be one of those grains you just mentioned a moment ago. Otherwise, we're not getting fiber.
SPEAKER 13 :
I know. I hear it all the time. So, you know, I mean, I have patients, including myself, who eat very little grains. And, you know, I feel better than I've ever felt because I don't eat grains in general.
SPEAKER 02 :
Gotcha. Okay. When it comes to those holiday meals and, you know, we're trying to do things right and enjoy the company and not be bloated and feel awful and so on. Yeah. How do we know when to cut off? In other words, you know, I want a little bit more of that because it's so tasty, but I don't want to overeat. So how do we know when that cutoff is so we don't get to the point we've overeaten?
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, it's always before you're full. And I do believe that some Asian countries will actually teach their kids that, that you push away from the table before you're actually full. And, you know, if you slow down your meal, you're not consuming so quickly. you do get fuller faster. If you chew your food, I always pick the number 22 times. Uh, it's just easy to remember. You just slow down the whole process and you know, the whole goal is to appreciate the meal and taste the meal. And I think that we've sort of been trained to eat it quickly and consume as much as we can. And you know, the more volume that we have, the more satisfied we're going to be. And, uh, You kind of have to take a look at what are the Europeans doing. They really do make an event out of the meals. They take a walk after the meals. They're together, and it's an event rather than just a scarf and patting your belly on the couch later.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mm-hmm. when it comes to laying out your plate maybe that's the way i should say this dr julie and this is where i think you can be a little more strategic on okay instead of having three spoonfuls of x let's just do one and let's go ahead and do one of the next and the next and so in other words you're getting this nice variety so you get a chance to taste everything but you're not overloading on one particular thing that's right and you know i would say you know a fist full of anything as far as how big your hand is in a fist form
SPEAKER 13 :
It's probably a normal amount that, you know, would be satisfying if you're putting three, four, five different things on your plate. And, you know, eight ounces of meat is probably more than most people need unless you're a big guy. So, you know, just figure out what that might look like and you'll see. If you want to go for seconds, great, go for seconds. But take your time before you get there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Give us some tips on we're going to a party. You know there's going to be a lot of things to indulge in, but you don't want to be that guy that overeats. You want to enjoy the company. You want to have a good time. How do you handle that? Do we eat something on the way there? Do we have a snack bar on the way? How do we do that to where we're in check as we arrive?
SPEAKER 13 :
I would say plan an early meal and eat your meal at home. That way you're full. You've eaten foods that you can choose. Then when the hors d'oeuvres come through and all the desserts and all the different things, you don't feel like you have to run around and, you know, eat everything and feeling lousy and putting weight on each time you go to a party. So, you know, keep your routine, but just eat your meal early and also drink a big glass of water before you get there. Then you're feeling hydrated. You don't feel like you've got to run over to and, you know, consume two glasses of alcohol quickly because you're actually thirsty. And then you can chill out and enjoy things without sort of your eyes wandering to the next dessert, the next sugar because you came so low blood sugar.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good point. What about being active? Because that's one of those things where, yeah, you're not going to do that during the party, but could we be a little more active prior or after, maybe even the next day?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, just walking. It's just such a simple thing to do. And, you know, last Christmas Eve, we had a bunch of friends over and we ended up walking around the block and looking at houses and the lights and You know, everyone felt great after they did it, and it's such a silly thing to do and so simple to participate in. And you do digest your food. We're not running. We're just strolling through. So if you had that ability to do that, grab your spouse, grab your dog, grab your kid, grab yourself, and just go take a nice walk after dinner. Anytime you're in motion, you're increasing circulation. You're draining all the toxins and the lymph from the body. You're forcing your body to need nutrition, so you're turning things over because you're constantly in motion. And you'll see those people that are in action are generally a bit slimmer. They have more energy. I mean, sumo wrestlers eat food and then go and sleep. And that's kind of what Americans do to some degree. We eat late, we sit down on the couch, and we're putting weight on.
SPEAKER 02 :
We do. Unfortunately, as a nation, and I talked about this again in the last segment, even some of the changes we may have coming as a country with RFK Jr. now potentially being our HHS director. I mean, the reality is we now have a movement called Make America Healthy Again. Dr. Julie, I can't remember a time in my life where I've ever heard anybody in America say that.
SPEAKER 13 :
I I'm so astounded at what he's saying that I feel like he's parroting what I've been telling my patients one by one by one. And you know, everyone is suffering. Everyone is really struggling with the food source in this country. And it thrills me that somebody is actually taking a really good look and making people aware from the, you know, fluoride in our water and all the weird things that they put into foods and then make it available for moms to buy for kids. It's just, It's a crime against our children and ourselves.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and I said this again. I've said this many, many times. I said it again today. It's costing all of us money, whether it's directly related to your health or it's through your tax dollars for those that aren't healthy. One way or the other, we're all paying for this.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, now we have a very drugged society.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's just, you know, it's been masterminded to some degree, and I'm sorry because we're all suffering.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, it has been. Again, I said earlier that, unfortunately, and this is one of RFK Jr.' 's biggest complaints, is we now have big pharma that is more concerned about the dollar than the person.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I think I'm very safe in saying that, and I'm sorry that I offend some folks saying that, Dr. Julie, but literally you watch the ads, and all I have to do is watch one ad, and that's what it tells me.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I mean, we're the only country that, one of the only countries that gets to put our pharmaceutical ads on TV.
SPEAKER 02 :
Us in New Zealand, we're the only two.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, weird.
SPEAKER 02 :
I know. That's weird. Well, which shows you that we're doing it the wrong way, and we need to make some changes. But again, education is partly what we do here each Wednesday. It's partly what you do when you come on with us, and I appreciate it. One more time, folks, if you want to check out Absorbate, and I cannot talk highly enough about it, Nature's Sources, there's two S's there, naturesources.com. Get it, use it daily. Dr. Julie, I can tell you that in our life, it's now a daily thing that we do, and sometimes more than once a day, depending upon what we're doing and eating and the activity level and all of that. But the product works.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it does. And it's an all-vegan formula, so it's just like eating those types of foods that help you break down food. So it's wonderful. So the 1-800 number is 1-800-827-7656. Dr. Julie, thank you very much, as always. I appreciate it. Me too, John. Thank you.
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All right, that's it, by the way, for Health and Wellness Wednesday. Thank you guys so much for listening. We always appreciate it. We've got another full two hours coming your way. Of course, Richard Battle will be joining us here in just a few minutes. Good enough to live by yesterday and good enough to live by tomorrow. That's what we'll talk to Richard about here in just a few minutes. So don't go anywhere. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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I'm a rich guy.
Join us for an action-packed episode as we navigate the twists and turns of driving laws, auto industry insights, and safety tips. Host John Rush dives into the legal gray areas surrounding mobile device use, firearm storage in vehicles, and other road-related regulations. Special guest Kurt Hopkins joins to discuss the shifting landscape of the auto industry and upcoming innovations. Plus, spirited debates with listeners about registration laws, impounded cars, and the impact of new legislation on everyday drivers. Tune in for a thought-provoking, informative, and engaging ride!
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, and we are back. As you can tell, no, you're not going to be able to listen to the rest of Bob's commentary, which, you know, I never have asked you, Charlie, if people want to listen to Bob's commentary again after they've heard it at 5 o'clock, can they do that inside of our network? You know what? We will find out. Charlie said he doesn't know, and I don't know either. I don't know if we post those things under the Crawford Broadcasting umbrella, and we may very well. So for those of you listening, if you like Bob's commentary, which I... enjoy i typically take a little bathroom break at five o'clock come back in and listen to the rest of of bob's commentary we've got some computer upgrades we have done and so as you guys all know when those things happen sometimes there's a little glitch here or there and so we just had one of those a moment ago so i'm on a little earlier than what we would normally plan for and i don't have my guest actually booked until about five after but kurt hopkins is going to join us here And just a little bit, we're going to talk a little bit about the auto industry and some of what we might expect to see coming down the pike. I know I talk a lot about that because being the car guy that I am, and then we should be able to talk to Scott Garlis also at the 530 mark as well. And Neil, again, in the last hour, thank you for that. I did not get an opportunity to actually look at that particular car. I did not read the Senate bill. And if you are correct, which you probably are, because, again, I have not read this to determine whether that's a primary or secondary offense. I will say I'm reading it right now. I'm reading the bill. So I'm reading the bill that became law. It is not a violation of the act to use a mobile electronic device in a motor vehicle that is at rest in a shoulder or lawfully parked. To cite an individual for a violation of the act, a law enforcement officer must see the individual using a mobile electronic device in a manner that caused the individual to drive in a careless or imprudent manner. The penalties for the violations are blah, blah, blah. So I believe, Neil, what you're saying is correct, although if you're on the phone and you're driving below the speed limit, above the speed limit, you're not paying attention, you're making a turn that you shouldn't be or you're weaving or whatever, you're going to get pulled over. And if they see that device in hand, you're going to get pulled over. So that may very well be the secondary offense, but they're going to pull you over anyways. Now, to Neil's point and basically what this is saying as well, if you're driving normally, I guess even if an officer sees you on the phone, probably not a lot they can do. But what I will tell you is this. And I've talked to a lot of officers over the years when it comes to different things on the vehicle and so on. If you have a taillight that's out, a license plate that's out, you didn't signal properly, you know where I'm going with this. If they can see any other reason to pull you over and you're on the cell phone at the same time, similar to the seatbelt law, you're going to get pulled over and they're going to write you a ticket. So my advice is, and yes, Neil, I know where you're coming from on the secondary offense, and it is a feel-good law. But here's my advice, period. This is just common sense. It has nothing to do with the law. Put the phone down. If you can use the hands-free mechanism of it and so on and make the calls and do whatever's needed, fine. More power to you. But otherwise, put the phone down and drive like you're supposed to, and everything else and those people around you will be much safer. So, again, we'll do our best to get our next guest joining us here in just a few minutes. We're at that point now where we can do that. So Kurt Hopkins should be joining us here momentarily. And, yeah, there's going to be a lot of changes coming down the pike when it comes to the auto industry. We'll get Kurt on and talk about that here in just a few minutes. But, again, going back to some of those laws, I've got a few more that I can actually talk about that will be going into effect. And, again, you can look these up for yourselves. I'll put the article up, and you can look at actually some of the laws that are out there on the book, some of the things that even passed this last go-around when it came to the – election cycle but update to child safety seats so those of you that have kids that are still riding around in car seats there's been some changes along those lines so make sure that you're up to date on that as well and i've made fun in the past i don't think i'm too far off that kids love to stay in a car seat till they grow a beard i don't think i'm too far off in saying that and yes i'm being facetious but i don't think i'm that far off because anymore you've got the kid in the car seat all the way up until they start driving Eggs, starting January 1, eggs must be cage-free. We talked about that a lot at the beginning of this past year. So all eggs sold in the state of Colorado will have to be from cage-free environments. That was a law that was passed in 2020. It's been implemented in two stages. We will now be into the full stage of that starting January 1. In most stores, you're already starting to see that. There is a gun storage requirement. We've talked about that as well in the past. That one goes into effect as well. And you have got to have your gun in a locked container inside of the vehicle. So locked inside of the trunk, for example. It can be inside of a locked container in the vehicle. But you cannot just leave a handgun in an unattended vehicle unless it is first secured properly. inside of said vehicle it has to be in a container placed out of view that was one of the things that was passed by this last legislative session that we complained about by the way as a program and yet it still passed. There was a lot of lobbying that went against that, and that's one, though, that is still on the books at this point in time. So gun storage requirements in vehicles, yes, that does go into effect. Violators, if caught, again, going back to Neil's point, if you're caught and if they find this, and the way that would be found, by the way, is if all of a sudden your car is broken into and you report your gun stolen. You could have a $500 fine in that particular case. Now, this is one of those laws which, by the way, I think is really stupid because what's going to happen is if, in fact, what I just explained happens, nobody's going to report it. And some would say, well, they'll trace it back to you. Yeah, fat chance. No, they won't. So really, all this is going to do, in my opinion, this particular bill, House Bill 24-1348, is that instance of what I just explained a moment ago, those won't get reported anymore. If you get broken into and your gun ends up missing, are you going to say anything? Not unless you're a knucklehead. You're just going to let it roll, not worry about it. Pay for it yourself. You won't be able to turn it into your insurance company. So if you're worried about that, you might want to go ahead and get a locked container just to have that because of what I said a moment ago. But this bill, by the way, when it's all said and done, is going to do nothing but this law, I should say, will do nothing but discourage people from telling an officer what exactly happened in the break-in they had on their particular vehicle. That's my opinion as to what actually will happen. Let's do this, Charlize. Can we take a break? Let's take a break real quick. We'll get things dialed back in. Flesh Laws coming up next. 303-806-8886. Whether it's civil or criminal, give Kevin a call today. Again, 303-806-8886.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. Dennis, what's going on, sir?
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Hey, John, you might want to rethink not reporting your weapon being stolen because you didn't store it right. Because if I remember correctly, you've got 48 hours to report a stolen or lost weapon, in addition to the improper storage. And I'll bet these Democrats would make an example out of you.
SPEAKER 17 :
How would they know?
SPEAKER 06 :
When they find your gun and it comes back to you?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, but again, I'm asking, how would they know? Because we don't do registration. And I'm just being devil's advocate. How is it coming back to you?
SPEAKER 06 :
I would assume through your background check.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because they have to record... And that may be true on one that you bought in the last several years, but Dennis, if you're guys like you and I and you've owned one for decades, yeah, fat chance.
SPEAKER 06 :
True, and two of mine...
SPEAKER 17 :
were pre-owned weapons. Yeah, I've got some of those as well. And again, I'm just being devil's advocate. I'm like, okay, just thinking out loud, if you didn't report, and I get where you're going with this, if you don't report it, then you're in trouble for not reporting. On the same token, if you report it, you're going to get a $500 fine because you didn't lock it in the car properly. So at the end of the day, most of us are probably not going to report that. I mean, I guess if it's something you bought recently that you feel might be able to be tied back to you, that might be a different situation. But otherwise, Dennis, it becomes your word against the thief's word.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and now you've violated two separate laws. True. You didn't report your weapon being stolen, and you had it improperly stored. And again, I think they'd make an example out of you if they find your weapon.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and to your point, I think if it could be tied back to you, you probably have to really rethink some of what we're talking about. I will say, though, Dennis, I think for a lot of individuals, especially if they know it's a weapon that just doesn't have a chance of coming back to them, I guarantee you most are not going to report it. They're going to get the opposite effect out of this, is my point.
SPEAKER 06 :
And, you know, have you ever heard of On Patrol Live, the TV show?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I haven't. No.
SPEAKER 06 :
So what they do is they're riding with eight or nine different police jurisdictions around the country. Okay. And it's like cops, except it's live in real time.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And every gun they come across, they go to their computer and check the NCIC and... They know who owns that weapon and whether the person possessing it can have a weapon or not. So that's part of where I'm coming from.
SPEAKER 17 :
And again, I'm not disagreeing with you, but how are they doing that on, for example, you and I, who I have weapons that have been acquired long before we had background checks and things along those lines. I mean, Dennis, it used to be a website even, sort of like a Craigslist for guns, where if you wanted to go meet somebody and buy a gun, sell a gun, whatever, it was called Gun Trader. It wasn't a big deal. to do it was a really easy thing to make happen you know long before we have all of the nonsense laws we have right now you could acquire a gun at that point in time legally through meeting somebody in the target parking lot if you wanted to so how are they tracing those is my question again i don't know if you have any law enforcement sources that might be a topic for your show Yeah, because, again, I don't know. In the case of this particular TV show, I mean, I would think with different states, different type of registration and so on, yeah, New York City, some of what Joe was talking about even earlier in regards to how some of the East Coast states work, I could see what you're saying happening. States like Colorado, where other than the last five, six years, how would they know?
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm not sure if that's a law enforcement question.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. And it's a great question because, honestly, Dennis, you bring up a great point, and I don't know the answers to some of these. So I'll let you go, though. You bring up a great point. Thank you for that very much. Joe, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, there's a few states like California where they do have gun registration, but in most states when they find a gun in a crime scene, what they do is they go back to the manufacturer and they say, which dealer did you ship this gun to? Then they go to the dealer. Maybe he's closed. Anyway. And then the dealers have to keep their records for like 15 years. So assuming the gun dealer you bought it from is still in business. Around, but they'll go to him and say, you sold this gun. You know, this gun was shipped to you by, you know, Smith & Wesson on this date in 2009, whatever. Right, right. You know, who did you sell it to? And he'll go through his records, and he'll supposedly, you know, it took him while he sold it to, John Rush, and then they'll go to John Rush and say, you bought this gun from this gun dealer on this date. You know, what happened to it? And you can say, either I lost it or I sold it to somebody else. And if you sold it to somebody else, they're going to ask you, who'd you sell it to? But they can, now it's not an instantaneous process like your previous caller said, unless it's one of those states that has a gun registration law. So typically it takes several days because they have to go to the manufacturer, then to the dealer, and then he's got to go through his records. So it's a multi-day process. But unfortunately, I'm in New Jersey where they've had that law for several years now. And unfortunately, John, I have one of those little tiny gun safes, which I have a steel cable that wraps around the seat post of my front seat. Got it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, you know, if I – and unfortunately in New Jersey there's a bunch of places I can't take my gun. So you've got to put it in there. So what I do is before I get out of the car – I'll put it in that little, it's a little flat. It's only about two inches high. Yeah, I have one.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know what it is, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it's on a steel cable, and I'll put it in there, lock it, slide it under the driver's seat out of sight because I don't want to be in a situation, because unfortunately my pistol that I carry with me, I bought in New Jersey.
SPEAKER 19 :
So it's trackable.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's very, very trackable back to me.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if you're in Colorado and you're, going to carry a gun in your car that you bought in the last 10 years. Be very careful.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Be very, very careful. And if you do, you know, if your gun is stolen and it wasn't in the box, then I would highly recommend you report it because not report, I think the crime, the penalty for not reporting a stolen gun is worse than the crime for not having it in the lockbox.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'd have to go look that one up, but you're probably correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. So, but the other thing is to get, you know, get yourself a little, I think my little Hornady lockbox cost me like $49 and came with a steel cable. And you can either get the keyed version, or for $20 more, you get the one with the little four-key finger pad, you know, little four keys. You can put in 9,999 combinations in it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 04 :
But, you know, unfortunately, that's something I have to deal with. Again, if I go to a post office, John...
SPEAKER 17 :
I have to put my gun in the... So here's really quick, and I know I've got other callers, so I'll make this fast, but here's the other caveat. So in Colorado, I just looked it up, you have five days to report that your gun was actually stolen, or you can have, it's a civil infraction, $25 fine, and then a subsequent offense would be a misdemeanor punishable by a maximum of a $500 fine. fine uh so here's just quick caveat car gets broken into you got five days to report it um when was it and where was it stolen joe well that's yeah that's good but at the same time if you don't i mean did i leave it on the front step accidentally I mean, you know where I'm going with this? In other words, my point is all of these laws that the Democrats come up with that they fabricate really at the end of the day, there's always a way around these stupid things, meaning they're not doing anything in the first place.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Of course, if you go out into a parking lot like at the DIA and find your car window smashed— and you're going to report that to your insurance company, then you might want to just... That might be different, yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
In fact, if I were you, I'd just go get a window and not report it.
SPEAKER 04 :
That would be me. Yeah, particularly if you're... Especially if you had a gun stolen. Yep, $1,000 deductible. Yeah. All right.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, good stuff, Joe. I appreciate it. Let me move on. Bill in Lakewood, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, so if you got a concealed carry permit, does the gun still have to be locked up in the car?
SPEAKER 17 :
No. Well, if you're leaving it in the car with you, not in the car, yes. If you're just taking it with you because it's concealed carry, no, it would not have to be. But if you parked and you went into the post office, for example, where you're not allowed to have a gun, then yes, it would have to be locked up. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, I'll have a report on you for your veteran's window guy.
SPEAKER 17 :
Perfect. All right. Go ahead. Friday. Oh, perfect. On Friday. Okay, perfect. I'm looking forward to it, Bill. Great. Okay. Awesome, man. Appreciate you very much. Del, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 05 :
how you doing guys good uh on mine most everything i've got one i don't have i can't buy a gun in colorado anyway because i don't have a colorado id and i'm not going to pay their tax and have it shipped out of state gotcha you know so but everything i've got now my shotgun was bought Oh, remember days down on West Colfax? Yeah. Yeah, that was where it was bought, and they've been out of business for how many years now?
SPEAKER 17 :
A long time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and my 357 was bought back in the 70s. Everything else I have has been bought from private owners.
SPEAKER 17 :
My whole point with this, Del, is just that, again, as always, the left is always trying to come up with ways that they think is going to protect the public when it's all said and done, when at the end of the day it does nothing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, now what are they going to do about Averna? Or have you heard of it?
SPEAKER 18 :
A what?
SPEAKER 05 :
Averna, B-Y-N-E-R-A-N-A. It's a non-lethal handgun that fires out CO2 and fires pure gas.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's basically a chemical gun is what it is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then there you go. You don't even have to get a background check to get one of those.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, because it's not firing a projectile.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Interesting. Well, it is, but it's a— Yeah, it's not a lethal projectile, I guess you could say, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's kinetic energy with—you've got several different ones. You've got one that's kinetic energy that'll knock you on your rear end. Right. And then it has the pepper spray and tear gas.
SPEAKER 19 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, we will see how things go. Del, as always, I appreciate it very much. Before we go to the bottom of the hour, here is something that is happening as we speak. And this is, again, this is another one where I'm okay with this. I've talked about this enough on this show and Drive Radio on Saturdays, and that is all of these folks that are driving around that have either expired or non-registered vehicles. have no insurance, and yet they're still driving around the same roads the rest of us are that pay properly to do that. Aurora, just Aurora right now, they have already now, because of the new law that passed in Aurora, they are impounding vehicles. In fact, they've impounded so far, the first 12 days of November, they impounded 52 cars. First 12 days. So what they do is they will impound the car if you have any of the things I just mentioned. So don't have valid registration, insurance, or a driver's license. They're going to take the car. And I'm sorry, as much as that may hurt some individuals, I'm okay with that. The rest of us have to pay to drive correctly, and we are. So why should they not have to? And I still see on a regular basis vehicles with not just a few days expired. And I understand that part of it. You could be mailing in, you know, doing your registration online. Maybe the plates take a little longer to get there and so on. So I'm not talking, you know, a car that's, you know, five to 10 days out. I'm talking cars that are 60, 90 a year out. And you guys see those all the time. And I'm talking not just on temp tags. I'm talking even the stickers on the plates. In Aurora, at least, they're cracking down on that. And frankly, I think this should happen statewide. This is one of those areas that, yes, I am sick and tired of seeing cars that I drive around all the time that don't pass muster in this area. Now, I don't know if they have a driver's license. I don't know if they have insurance. But I do know the cars, you know, the tags are expired. Either temp tag hasn't been, you know, handled correctly and it's way overdue or the plates on the vehicle just period are expired. And it always cracks me up when I look at these and see it on vehicles that are very, very expensive in the first place. You know, I get the old clunker that's out, okay? I can have a little more sympathy maybe in that area, although I don't have much sympathy, period, because driving is a privilege, I believe. Not a right. It's a privilege. Yes, movement in the country is a right. Movement by car is a privilege. And I know some of you sovereign citizen folks would argue with me on that one, but trust me, I'm right. You're wrong. So in Aurora anyways, they already in the first 12 days of November impounded 52 cars to the point where they're kind of starting to run out of room to place these. shows you how many of these are out running around. And I hate to say this, but I'm going to. A lot of this ties into the illegal immigration problem we have in Colorado right now. I'm just going to say it straight up. That's exactly where some of this is coming from. They don't have a license because they can't get one. They're here illegally. They can't get insurance for whatever reason. And they may have had a temp tag to start with because when they bought the vehicle, they got it because none of this has to apply at that point in time. And then they just let the thing ride out. Those are the individuals, by the way, I have no sympathy for. I'm sorry. You came to this country. You know what goes on in this country. And I get it. You're trying to irk things out and so on, but you didn't do it legally. These are the consequences. And in this case, your car gets towed and gone and you'll probably never get it back because some of these people won't be able to afford to get it out of impound. I'm not losing any sleep or crying any tears over this one, folks. Most of you aren't either. So. All right, I'll leave it at that. Scott Garlis should be joining us here in just a few minutes. We'll get an update on what's going on with Wall Street and the markets after the Thanksgiving weekend. Hi-Fi Plumbing is next. Don't forget they do electrical as well. 877-WE-HIGH-5.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Scott Garlis joining us now. Scott, welcome. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, John, I'm well. How are you today?
SPEAKER 17 :
Good. Always a joy to hear from you. Talk to us about Wall Street, the Fed. There was a little bit of information from Powell today. Give us an update.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. Basically, Powell did a fireside chat. One of the things he talked about was he said, hey, look, job growth is holding up a little bit better, or economic growth is holding up a little bit better than we expected. Inflation is coming down. It's just a bumpy path. And he said, but, you know, these things are good developments because they afford the Fed luxury jobs. to be the luxury of possibly being patient with what they're going to do in terms of returning interest rates to neutral. But, you know, the more important part of that was he said interest rates are still headed lower. So there's been a ton of speculation around whether or not the federal cut rates. And what Powell, and the way I hear these things is what he said was, even if we weren't to cut rates in December, we're still going to keep cutting rates going forward.
SPEAKER 18 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, Bottom line to me is that's good for the domestic economy, and that's good for stocks.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. And I, by the way, some of the things I've read, I would kind of read between the lines the same way that you are. I would anticipate no cut in December, but I would say as you head into 2025, you'll see additional cuts. How often, how much, that I don't have an answer to, but you'll see that in my opinion.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, so I think they're going to cut in December. One of the more hawkish governors was a board member, Chris Waller. He came out of the St. Louis Fed. He was the head of their economic research team. He just spoke the other day, and he was making the case for another rate cut in December. And I was a bit surprised by that. But the fact that he was saying that, that tells me they're definitely leaning in that direction. But even the more hawkish people are still saying rates need to come back to neutral. The only person that has really made a case for what they think neutral is right now is Mary Daly in San Francisco. And she said that level was 3%. So if we think about where rates are right now, they're about, uh, I want to say, is it 4.9%? Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, that's, that's, let's say 160 basis points or 1.6 percentage points were the downside. And if we're cutting it, say, 25 basis points a meeting, that means we're talking six or seven more meetings worth of rate cuts.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, we're a year and a half out at least to even get there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so that's before she thinks we're going to hit neutral. Now, another person that recently spoke, gosh, was Austin Goolsbee. He's the Chicago Fed president. He becomes a voting member of the FOMC next year because of the annual rotation that goes on. He's saying we should cut 25 basis points in December and then another 100 basis points next year.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that would take rates down to like the 3.5-ish, 3.75%.
SPEAKER 17 :
By the way, I'm one, and you know my feelings on this, Scott. I think to get the housing market back, even get car sales where they need to be and so on, I feel like you need to get down into that. you know, three, three and a half percent range, because then you're going to get some of those other rates, most likely down into the, you know, mid fives, if you would. Car loans can vary off of that lower or higher, depending upon the participation level of, you know, the funding institution, the dealer or whatever, trying to make the deal work. But at the end of the day, you start getting the housing, you'll get mortgages, 30 year mortgages down in that five and a half range, and maybe even get a 15 year down into the high, you know, mid to high fours, you'll start moving some houses.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, there's a builder I really like. It's funny you bring this up. Skyline Champion, SKY is their ticker symbol. And I think we've talked about this before, but they basically build pre-built homes, like modular almost. Right, right. And they're really affordable for people. You know, their high-end houses are a really nicely built house. I think they charge like $150,000. But they basically, all they need is the foundation in place, and they can put it right on top of the foundation.
SPEAKER 17 :
Nice, nice.
SPEAKER 08 :
And yeah, I mean, so, you know, I don't know where those communities are built per se in terms of vicinity like cities, but people in those communities, people can get in houses at a really reasonable price. So I think that companies, you know, what their product is going to become more and more attractive as people look for affordability and that stock's going to keep going up. What is it again? SKY.
SPEAKER 17 :
SKY.
SPEAKER 08 :
Skyline. Yeah, Skyline Champion.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, perfect. In regards to just overall economy, you know, we'll have an inauguration here in, well, it's a little over a month away, roughly, what, 45 days or so from now we'll have an inauguration. There'll be a big regime change. We're going to have different people appointed to a lot of the different three-letter agencies. How is Wall Street responding to a lot of that scuttlebutt that's going on in regards to the heads of those agencies?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so some of the things, like they liked that Matt Gaetz withdrew his name because the way that Wall Street's looking at that is, so coming into the election, I think we've talked about this too, that it was Committee for Responsible Budget. I think that's what it's called. It's a bipartisan group. They said Kamala was going to create $3.5 trillion in deficit spending if she lives up to her promises, and Trump would create $7.5 trillion. But things like what's going on with Gates, and then there was somebody else, I think they're saying they had six people that said they wouldn't vote for him. Wall Street's looking at that and saying, okay, what that tells them is, that no matter what budget the president wants to put out there, it still has to go through congressional approval, and in particular, it has to go through the Senate. And the Senate may not be as willing to have crazy deficit spending because they're already, I want to say there are like five to seven of them that have said, hey, look, there have to be offsets for the spending you want to do. So Wall Street's looking at that and saying, okay, wait a second. You know, even though we have Republican control of the House, the Senate, and the White House, they're seeing that and they're saying, wait a second, there's more fiscal responsibility that's probably going to happen here. And so that's going to start dropping bond yields. We're already seeing it with the 10-year. Since the election, it has come back from, I want to say, like 4.5% back down to 4.2%. And that's a big deal because the 10-year yield is used as a benchmark for for a lot of the lending that goes on in this country.
SPEAKER 19 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then so if we do see this fiscal responsibility, yields will come in even more. And then if we see rate cuts on top of that, that'll drive borrowing costs even lower.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gotcha. Gotcha.
SPEAKER 08 :
So in Wall Street's mind, that's a really good thing for companies everywhere.
SPEAKER 17 :
When it comes to energy, and one of the things I was going to mention today with you coming on was I read an article today talking about how Saudi Arabia and a lot of those cartel countries, if you would, don't have the foothold on the oil industry they once did. In fact, they've asked Saudi Arabia, are you guys going to produce more oil, flood the market, try to do what you did back in the 2020 era where you tried to crush American oil and so on? And they basically have said, yeah, no, we're probably not going to go down that path again. I think what's really happened, and Scott, you and I have talked about this multiple times in the past, reality is I think finally, The Saudis and others have realized that, oh, wait a minute, America is producing 13 million barrels a day and probably have the capacity to do 18 to 20 if they really get things rolling along. We probably ought to play our cards right or we're liable to get shut out of this thing. You know, not completely, but we may not be selling any oil over there, period.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know, I think that's right. I think they realize like, hey, if we. Everybody plays nice in the sandbox. We stand a better chance of keeping prices up instead of getting completely devastated.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and point being, did we ever think in our lifetime we'd ever see the Saudis do that?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, never. Never. I mean, again, it's like – and I get we buy oil from other countries in the world because – It helps maintain relationships and keeps money going to them.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and some of it's our refinery capacity. We have sweet crude that not every refinery in the country can do. That's part of our other problem we have, which that's a whole other conversation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. But I think if the Saudis and the U.S. work better together on stuff like this, and I don't think there would be price fixing, but just a better relationship, and that might help stabilize prices more. I think it would stabilize prices at a level lower than here. I think the Saudis have to have at least $50 a barrel is what they're looking for to make things work for them.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and I think, again, I've said this before, the Saudi family is big. They like to live large. I mean, these are guys that don't drive Toyota Corollas. They drive Lamborghinis and Ferraris. So the reality is they're used to driving not a $25,000 car but a $250,000 car. And, no, I'm not exaggerating when I say that, and that might be on the cheaper scale of things. Scott. So point being is, you know, they want to see oil up in that, you know, 70, 75 dollar range. And it may not be that way forever. If we start pumping more, it could drop down into the 60 dollar range. But they like seeing it up there because they got a lot of mouths to feed.
SPEAKER 08 :
They do. Not only that, but the Saudi government gives a lot of money to its people to keep them pretty happy. That's right. And so they do not want to see a collapse in oil prices.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's right. So it'll be interesting to see what happens. I didn't check oil today. I guess I could do that relatively quick. 68.76. OK, so it's under 70 today. So we're now down into the sixes. And again, part of that also, and I want to talk to you about this as well, Scott, is, you know, the demand in China, you know, China just isn't doing very well. In fact, when Donald Trump gets inaugurated and does some of the things he's talking about with tariffs and so on, they're liable to actually do worse, not better. I mean, they've got to be, for lack of better words, shaking in their boots because they do not like their future given, you know, given a Donald Trump presidency. Am I right or wrong?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no, you're exactly right on that. They don't, and that's why they're trying to do everything they can with Russia and Iran now. But, yeah, it doesn't, I mean, Chinese demand, it looks like it's struggling, and I don't see that getting better any time soon.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I don't either. I mean, they've got a real financial crisis. They've got a housing crisis. They've got a commercial property crisis. I mean, the reality is they have propped some of that stuff up for so long that, you know, literally, I'm not exaggerating when I say that, it's crashing down right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, and I don't think China can be excited. I think there was news out today that Trump said Peter Navarro is going to be his chief trade advisor. Now, that doesn't mean he's going to be the U.S. trade representative, but it sounds like he's going to be back in the White House giving advice on what to do from a trade standpoint. And Navarro is definitely anti-China.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and I think we already know that a lot of the folks that Donald Trump is appointing to these three little agencies, not that they have a lot of effect upon what happens China-wise, but a lot of these folks are in that same camp. So what I think China's really – I know I'm speaking for them, but I think what their biggest concern is is not only is the president of the United States against them and what's been going on, the majority of the people that he will surround himself with and they'll be in charge of a lot of these agencies are as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and so the other interesting part of that, too, to me is we've talked about this a bit, too, that Europe has really woken up to a lot of the stuff that's going on there, too.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they're getting tired of China. I was reading an article in The Wall Street Journal either yesterday or today about they're getting fed up, a lot of other countries are, with China just producing all these cheap goods, trying to re-ramp their economy, and dumping them onto the other markets. And countries are starting to say no mas, and... You know, I think that's a very direct, I don't know if consequence is the right word, but it's a very direct outcome of Trump's first presidency. I think he woke everybody up to this eight years ago. And now I think we're going to see the next stage of that that would have happened in the past four years. really accelerate in these next four years.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree with you on that. And again, that's why I would say that I think China is literally shaking in their boots. They did not want it. Well, frankly, Scott, and I've said this publicly, I think China did everything they possibly could to make sure that the other side won. They interfere in every election they possibly can. This one was no different. They did not want Donald Trump winning and being president a second term.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think that's also why we're really starting to see this separation gap between U.S. stock markets and the rest of the world. And I think that could keep going, because if you think about the numbers, and the estimates may not be there at the moment, but the revenue potential, if we see a lot more business come back to the U.S. because of all these policies, and because rates start going down and borrowing costs get cheaper for households and companies, you know, I would look to own small cap stocks in particular because 80% of their revenues come from the U.S. I would look at an ETF like the Vanguard Russell 2000 Index Fund. The ticker symbol is VTWO, and that copies or tries to mimic the Russell 2000 Index, which is a small cap index.
SPEAKER 17 :
Got it. Okay, good to know. Yeah, and okay, one last question before I let you go. Bitcoin, I mean, the crypto world is just on fire. I'm not a huge believer in it. You and I have had those conversations. Maybe it has its place. My biggest fear with it is it's literally backed by nothing other than faith. I understand that that's true with a lot of other investments and things that people put money into as well, but the whole crypto thing literally as an investor scares me to death, and I know there's a lot of people out there that probably have made a lot of money doing it. I'm not one of them, but what are your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 08 :
If you want to be involved in Bitcoin, to me, the other tokens get way too complicated for me. I think if you want to be involved in crypto, I would buy Bitcoin or Ethereum. And I personally wouldn't let it be more than 5% of my portfolio when I invest. Now, if it grows into something more, that's fine. But in terms of the money I would put to work, I wouldn't put more than 5% because if it gets wiped out to zero, I can stomach losing that because I'm going to be doing all right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good point. Great.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point. All right, Scott, how do folks get a hold of you?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, sure. Come follow me on Twitter or on LinkedIn. See Scott Garlis.
SPEAKER 17 :
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Scott Jennings hosts a riveting conversation on the Mike Gallagher Show, tackling the latest in political controversies, from Biden's decision to pardon Hunter Biden to Trump's supposed plans for military action within the states. Delve into the narratives that dominate today's political landscape, and unpack the reality versus fan fiction among left-wing circles. Featuring insights from Congressman James Comer and a focus on the implications of Biden's controversial pardons, this episode sheds light on the political maneuvers at play and what they mean for the future of America.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, sitting in for Mike today, here's Scott Jennings.
SPEAKER 05 :
Scott Jennings in for the great, legendary Mike Gallagher. So glad to be here with you all today. Wasn't it great, by the way, to wake up in the United States of America today, the greatest country on earth? I woke up early today in Manhattan with a full heart because I woke up in a nation that embraces and protects free speech. I woke up in a nation full of free thinkers. I woke up. in a country full of people who love freedom and understand the essential nature of freedom and liberty. Our founding fathers knew it. They devised the greatest system of government ever known to man, codified in our Constitution. It protects our rights, and the first right is freedom of speech. And we have to fight. We have to fight to protect these things. We have to fight against the people who believe that America... And the fundamental way of life here in America is somehow rotten at the core. That Western civilization should be dismantled. And that's what our project here is today. Let's save Western civilization. Let's protect speech. Let's protect freedom. And let's fight for the America that we want. I'm so glad to be in for Mike Gallagher because he's such a warrior. for that viewpoint. I'm Scott Jennings, and I live in Kentucky. Normally, I spend a lot of time in New York. You may know me from my job at CNN, where I am CNN's senior political commentator. I handle the conservative political analysis on the network. I do shows across the network. You see me a lot at 10 o'clock at night on the Abby Phillip Newsnight show. I was there each of the last two nights, which I want to talk about in a second. When I'm not in New York, when I'm not fighting the good fight on CNN, I live in Kentucky with my family. I have four boys, 30 backyard chickens, three dogs, Elvis, Fiona, and Baxter. And like 20 Christmas inflatables. This is the great Scott Jennings trivia for this morning. I have like a Christmas village in my front yard. We have Santa. I have a nine-foot-tall inflatable rooster. True story. It's an homage to the backyard chickens, but it's a nine-foot. I got it at Tractor Supply. It's like a nine-foot Christmas chicken. And I have a great life back in Kentucky, out in middle America. To me, part of my punditry on CNN, it's not just that I'm the conservative voice on CNN, but I feel like I'm trying to represent what's going on outside of the urban core, outside of the Acela Corridor. What are people talking about? How are people feeling about the world in middle America? So as much as I feel like a representative for conservatives, on CNN. I sort of feel like I'm I'm red America. I'm middle America's representative on CNN. And I have to say about my employer, good for CNN for encouraging this debate. We're having real debates. You watch a 10 o'clock show at night with Abby and we've got conservatives and liberals at the table having real debates. Now, as you're going to hear in a minute, sometimes people say objectively crazy things. But but We are having actual debate. And so what I think we're accomplishing. is getting people to listen to things that are outside of their bubble. It's real easy these days to live in a bubble and only hear things that you want to hear that confirm your priors. And I think what we're accomplishing with these debates is introducing people to points of view that maybe, just maybe, they haven't heard or haven't considered just yet. So let's talk about the last couple of nights here. In New York City, boy, it was interesting. One of the things, I mean, I meet some characters and I meet some fun people and I meet some interesting people. But one of the things that I've learned lately, and this is really since the election, it's really amplified. I feel like people on the left are living in a super weird bubble. And I know we joke about it. You call it TDS, Trump derangement syndrome. That may be a mild term. That may not be going far enough. But I have met people and listened to people who have constructed this entire made-up narrative in their mind about what is going to happen under a Donald Trump presidency. Now, never mind the fact that we already had one. And never mind the fact that over half the country, if you look at the polling, believes it was a pretty good presidency. He's got over 50% job approval retrospective to his first presidency. Never mind all that. What people are doing now is sort of projecting what they think the next four years will be. It's this dystopian fan fiction of just how badly Donald Trump is going to change America. Let me play a couple of things for you. Let me start actually with Monday night. The breaking news on Monday, of course, was that Joe Biden had decided to pardon Hunter Biden. Terrible decision, by the way. We've been talking about it in America, obviously, for the last couple of days. But this set off a round of people who were doing a couple of things. Number one, denying that Joe Biden had lied about this when he clearly had. And number two, coming up with reasons about why he needed to do it despite his repeated assertions that he would not. And so on Monday night, I was debating a liberal commentator named Lee McGowan. She's sort of a social media influencer type, calls herself I am politics girl on social media. But she said, and let's listen, that Trump is planning to institute firing squads and therefore Hunter Biden needed a pardon. Let's hear it.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don't want to be bringing back waterboarding. I don't want to be a country that tortures people, especially for the kind of country that's going to be using the military against our own citizens. This kind of thing concerns me.
SPEAKER 04 :
What do you mean use against our own citizens?
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm talking about sending states.
SPEAKER 04 :
What do you mean? What are you talking about?
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm talking about sending the military into blue states to make them behave. Getting Gavin Newsom under control, getting J.P. Pritchard under control.
SPEAKER 05 :
What are you making sure? What are you talking about? Sitting in the state capitol to commandeer the state government?
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, I hope not, but I'm definitely he's definitely talked about that.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't know why you're using the military to to suppress in the Black Lives Matter era. Those protests in the street. He he was there.
SPEAKER 05 :
I just make sure I understand your position that you believe Donald Trump is going to use the military. to set up effectively, like, coups in state capitals of states that he didn't win?
SPEAKER 12 :
Scott, I think you're taking it a step or two too far.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, she said make blue states behave, and she also said round up immigrants. That's not true. It's deport illegal immigrants.
SPEAKER 12 :
Scott, Scott, I don't know why you're acting.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. Okay, well, I'm sorry. Hold on. Hold on.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, look. Let's I think you're right. Let's be precise. Trump has wanted to use the military to do things domestically that actually the military is not allowed to do. I think that's the point that she's making. Like what? Like deport illegal immigrants. That is actually not a function of the military.
SPEAKER 05 :
The military can absolutely be used to work with local officials. to provide military resources, but working with other parts of the federal government and local officials. We already send the National Guard to the border.
SPEAKER 13 :
But you're not against the will of the local officials or the will of the state government. We have a federalist government here.
SPEAKER 11 :
The military is not supposed to take up arms against American citizens. They're not. You keep saying that.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is about illegal immigration. You all keep saying American citizens. How do we know whether the people are illegal or not? We know after they're shot. We know after they die. We have 1.6 million people in this country who have already received deportation orders from courts.
SPEAKER 11 :
They are here illegally. It's always back to illegal immigration with people who support Donald Trump. It's always back to illegal immigration. But that's not the only thing that we're talking about here. We're talking about the American people. We're talking about taking up arms against them with a military that's supposed to be protecting them.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is not right. You cannot say Donald Trump is sending the military to round up.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's what he said. That is what he is saying, Scott. That's not what I'm saying. Totally false.
SPEAKER 05 :
He said that. Totally false. That's what he said.
SPEAKER 12 :
Scott. Scott. Trump, we're in the fever swamps.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 12 :
What is your dispute here?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm not even really because they're saying that he's sending the military to shoot or and or round up American citizens.
SPEAKER 13 :
Not we did not say shoot.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think the issue, the issue, he said, he just said, I said, I mean, I did say take up arms because when you send the army in, that's what they're that's what they're doing.
SPEAKER 05 :
So that was actually Tuesday night. That was last night. And again, constructing this idea that Donald Trump's going to send the military to take over state capitals to shoot American citizens Monday night. Let's hear the debate Monday night about the firing squads. And this is what necessitated the Hunter Biden part. This is give you a little idea of the dystopian fan fiction we're dealing with here.
SPEAKER 12 :
But wasn't, to Scott's point, I mean, wasn't it a lie? I mean, you can defend it, but wasn't it a lie that he was not going to pardon him?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I believe the circumstances have changed. I think that we now have a president coming into office who's talking about firing squads, who's talking about running people around the country and making sure that everyone who's his enemy is going to be punished. And Hunter Biden lied about his drug use on a government forum when he was buying a gun. And he failed to file and pay taxes when he was a drug addict. He paid back those taxes with interest. Donald Trump himself was indicted for 17 counts of criminal tax fraud, more than Hunter. And he's going to be the president of the United States.
SPEAKER 03 :
11 years. You're missing a few things here. 11 years.
SPEAKER 05 :
This – I just – what I have been thinking about so much over the last couple of days is how is it that these folks became radicalized to the point where they believe in this reality that doesn't exist? And I'm interested to hear from you about it today. This is the Mike Gallagher Show. 1-800-655-MIKE. Mike, 1-800-655-6453. We're going to continue to talk about that. We're also going to talk about a little breaking news today. The Pete Hegseth nomination for Secretary of Defense. His mom was on Fox & Friends this morning. We're going to hear from her. And then... At the bottom of the hour, Congressman James Comer, House Oversight Chairman, is with us. This is The Mike Gallagher Show. I'm Scott Jennings, sitting in. Stay with us.
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Scott Jennings in for Mike Gallagher today and glad to be here in Manhattan. Before we get to our guest, Congressman James Comer of Kentucky's First District and the chair of the House Oversight Committee. I just read a little breaking news here in New York City today. This is kind of a shocking thing. I'm just seeing it come across. UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot and killed. in manhattan this morning by a man in a black mask the fifty-year-old ceo of united health care was outside of the hilton hotel in midtown when a man came up to him and shot him in the chest the mass man this report says head on a gray backpack and fled into a nearby alley thompson was rushed to the hospital where he was pronounced dead united health care group was scheduled to start its annual investor conference at 8 o'clock on Wednesday morning, according to the company. But numerous news outlets are reporting just a terrible situation. The CEO of UnitedHealthcare, Brian Thompson, shot and killed on the streets of New York City this morning. Sad news, and we'll follow that today. Let's get back to politics here on the Mike Gallagher Show. Scott Jennings sitting in for Mike, and I'm glad to have with me my old friend. And one of the most important Republicans in the country, Congressman James Comer of Kentucky's 1st Congressional District is with me. Jamie, Congressman Comer, the oracle of American politics for all that you brought to light about Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family. Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. Thanks for being with us. Thanks for having me, Scott. You were on top of this before anybody. You got a hold of this chairmanship and you dug in on this. And oh, my goodness. I listen to the media. Poo poo this. There's nothing there. This is all made up. This is all fabricated. Well, Congressman Comer, if it's all made up and there's no there there. Why does Hunter Biden need a blanket pardon going back 11 years to just about the time when he started getting involved in Ukraine? You tell me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's the key, Scott. It's a blanket pardon for anything that might arise. Because our investigation started in 2014. That's when we subpoenaed bank records, starting from 2014 all the way to 2020, to the time Joe Biden was elected president. And it's just a coincidence. The pardon goes all the way back to 2014, all the way to December the 1st of this year. So 11 years. At the end of the day, the Bidens have committed so many financial crimes that what he was charged for was just the tip of the iceberg. Right. I would argue 90 percent of the crimes, the money laundering, the violation of Foreign Agents Registration Act, The tax evasion for all this income that that wasn't reported to the IRS, according to the IRS whistleblowers. I mean, that that would account for 90 percent of the other financial crimes. And I'm not even getting into what was on the laptop and the and the, you know, the salacious stuff, because all I investigated was was the money was the money that the Biden took in. And this is the question everyone should ask. What business were the Bidens in? What did they do? to justify depositing $27 million from our enemies around the world.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you always ask the greatest question here on this. What was the product? What was the product? Why was money changing hands? Why were they hiring Hunter Biden? What was the value of it? What was the product? It's pretty obvious now what the product was, isn't it?
SPEAKER 09 :
The product was Joe Biden, and we had some of the former associates like Devin Archer and Tony Bobulinski. They testified to this under oath. They said the product was the Biden brand. They were buying access to Joe Biden. That's exactly what they were doing. And if you look at Jim Biden, who, by the way, Scott, will get a pardon too, the reason that Joe Biden pardoned Hunter early was because he was fixing to be sentenced to prison next week. He'll pardon Jim Biden on the way out the door. Jim Biden's business – was much like Hunter's, except Jim Biden, the money he took in were from criminals in the United States, domestic criminals who were needing pardons, who were needing government contracts, who were needing casino licenses, some of the most shady of the shady things that government does. That's what Jim Biden's business was entailed. So this is a family that's been influenced peddling for decades. Our investigation proved that. And I think that Joe Biden's pardons validated that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let me ask you a question about – by the way, you talk to Democrats about Jimmy Biden, Joe Biden's brother. They say things like, oh, you think Hunter Biden was bad? Just wait. I mean they say – you talk to Democrats. They'll tell you. People who know, people in their party who know, they'll tell you. Let me ask you a question about Hunter Biden. So the lawyers tell me that because he got this pardon, which is objectively outrageous, one of the consequences of this is that he can no longer – claim the Fifth Amendment as a defense against testifying, I guess that means to Congress or in a court of law, A, do you believe that? And B, if yes, are we planning to bring Hunter Biden back to answer more questions about the corruption?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, first of all, are we bringing Hunter Biden back? That's going to be left up to Attorney General Bondi. We've completed the investigation. We have all the financial crimes outlined in a very extensive report that we published that very few people in the media read. But obviously, Joe Biden read it or he wouldn't have issued that big blanket pardon. That's right. You know, at the end of the day, you know, it doesn't. matter to me. We'll bring him in if Bondi wants him brought in. But Hunter Biden didn't plead the fifth when we brought him in for deposition. He just lied. And one of the things that we referred to the Department of Justice was charges of perjury because he lied under oath to us. The Bidens are very good at lying. Joe Biden lied during the debate when he said the laptop was Russian disinformation, when he knew it was Hunter Biden's laptop. And he lied when he said he wasn't going to pardon Hunter Biden, when he knew he was going to pardon Hunter Biden. And everything he said about the Biden influence peddling schemes, Joe Biden lied about. So they're very good at lying. And Jim Biden is right in there with them. I mean, he can lie to you and smile and pat you on the back on the way out. I mean, some people are skilled at that. People wonder what Joe Biden's skill is. It's like and Hunter inherited that skill very well, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's amazing when you consider how Democrats talk about Donald Trump and talk about and when Joe Biden says the words of a president matter and I'm going to restore the soul of the nation and. so on and so forth. The reporting on this pardon is amazing. NBC News says that Biden and the top White House aides got together over the summer and decided two things. They were going to leave the option of a pardon on the table, but then they were going to simultaneously lie to the American people and say, no, no, no, we weren't going to do that. It's really quite despicable. And I really do hope that Hunter Biden in some venue is forced to answer more questions. Let me ask you one more thing about about Hunter Biden. Is it your belief based on everything you know and all the investigations you've done, that had he not received a pardon, that it was likely he was going to face further possible indictments for some of the issues you mentioned surrounding the corruption, foreign agent stuff, money changing. Do you think it's possible or even likely that he would have faced more prosecutions over the way he had conducted himself in his business?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. I mean, he was definitely going to be charged with FARA violations. He could have been at any point. In a new Trump administration, that very likely was going to happen. He could have been charged with more tax evasion. Remember, the IRS whistleblowers testified that they let the two things, they let the statute of limitations run out on a lot of the Burisma money that he took in, which was to the tune of $5 million. But then the IRS never received any information about the money we found he took in from Romania, that he took in from Kazakhstan, some of the money that he took in from China. So he still owes the government taxes on that income. Not only did they take the money from our adversaries around the world and lie about it, according to the Irish whistleblowers, they never paid a penny of taxes on it. So Hunter Biden was only charged for tax evasion for about $5 million or $4 million. He could have been charged for tax evasion $27 million in addition to FARA violations, in addition to money laundering. And that's not my word, money laundering. That's six banks. They issued SARS reports on him for money laundering.
SPEAKER 05 :
Romania, Kazakhstan. It's like the plot of a screwball comedy except there's nothing funny about it because we're literally dealing with the president of the United States. Let me twinge topics. You are raising some concerns, and I think a lot of people are going to have concerns. About it sounds like some of the federal government workers unions are cutting deals with the Biden administration on the way out the door here to let all these federal bureaucrats work from home for years and years and years. I think people would be shocked if they went to Washington, D.C. and went into some of these office buildings. People don't come to work. And now they're cutting deals that will let them. What is going on with this and what are we going to do about this? People need to go to work, don't they?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. The American people may have thought that Joe Biden's pardon to Hunter was the last middle finger from Joe Biden to the American people. But no, the last middle finger happened yesterday when Joe Biden issued an executive order granting more federal employees the right to work from home. And you've already got a majority of the federal workers in Washington, D.C. They don't even come to work. Some of these big buildings in Washington, D.C. are only 8 percent occupied.
SPEAKER 04 :
Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 09 :
If you try to call someone on the phone and get someone on the phone in a D.C. office, it'll be a miracle if that actually happened. No one is coming to work under Joe Biden. So the American taxpayers that work hard every day, many of whom have two jobs, paying taxes to the federal government, the last thing they want to see are more fat cat, big government employees sitting at home in their pajamas all day, sleeping until noon, not providing any service to the American people. And that's what Joe Biden just did. He is doing everything he can to burn it down on the way out. And I think that one of the goals of DOGE is to trim the federal workforce. The first thing we need to do is get the employees back to work, and then we can figure out who's actually working and who needs to be let go. So it's a disaster with the federal workforce right now in Washington, D.C. They're not coming to work. Even the mayor, Muriel Bowser, supports my efforts to bring the federal workforce back to work because all these retail outlets and restaurants have shut down in Washington, D.C. because there are no federal employees going to work.
SPEAKER 05 :
Before we let you go, Congressman, I assume that your engagement with the Doge effort and looking into this federal workers not coming to work, this is going to be at the top of your list when Congress comes back in January. Can you give me a little snapshot? What else is on Jamie Comer's mind when the Republicans come back and you chair the House Oversight Committee? What else can we expect out of you and the Republican majority on the oversight front?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'm meeting with Elon and Vivek tomorrow, but I can tell you we're going to be working very closely with their efforts to eliminate waste, fraud, abuse in the federal government. That's what our committee is supposed to do. We didn't have a majority of senators willing to go along with many of the good government bills we passed out of the House, and we sure as hell didn't have a White House that wanted to have good government. Now we do. Now the pieces are in place. I love the two-point people on this Doge thing. I think we're going to look at unnecessary government programs, wasteful grants. We're going to look at unneeded federal bureaucrats and just going to start taking the ax out and trying to chop waste, fraud, and abuse at every corner of the federal budget. There's no shortage of opportunities to eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse, and that's what my number one priority is going to be in this next Congress.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's Congressman Jamie Comer, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, the oracle of American politics. He was on to the Bidens before anybody. He has been totally vindicated. And a little news. You're meeting with Elon and Vivek tomorrow about cleaning up and shrinking the federal government. Jamie, thank you for your efforts. Thank you for representing the Commonwealth of Kentucky and my ancestral congressional district, Kentucky One. You do a terrific job for the people of the Commonwealth and the people of the United States of America. Scott Jennings in for Mike Gallagher. Stay with us.
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Scott Jennings sitting in for Mike Gallagher. Got a text from my old friend Marty in West Kentucky. I knew when I turned on the Mike Gallagher radio show, I recognized that voice, Marty. I love you. Thank you for the text this morning. And it is fun to be in for the legend Mike Gallagher. And it's really fun to have my friend. My old friend, I've known this man for over 20 years, and he's an American hero. Chris LaCivita, the campaign manager for Donald J. Trump for president 2024. The man, the co-campaign manager, along with Susie Wiles, who led the greatest American political comeback ever in our history. Chris, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. Hey, Scott. Man. Great to be here. I tell you, bro. Well, you look good. You look rested. The stress is gone.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I just want to start with one simple question.
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Well, one too many cheeseburgers at 10 o'clock at night on the plane, so I got to work that off.
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I know how it goes. I know. I've lived that life, and it is hard on the scale. I know. I've been there. Let me ask you a question. How did you do it? I mean, when you look at what happened, 16, he wins a presidency, but doesn't win the popular vote. Biden wins. And you take this thing and win not just the electoral college, but the national popular vote for the first time for Republicans since 04. What is the secret sauce?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I mean, it's it's it's easy. The secret sauce is Donald Trump. I mean, look, you know, when when Susie and I started this. Two years ago, we had a candidate who had at this point – at the starting point was running for president for the third time, had been president. And, you know, you don't go through that process without clearly learning something, which he did. You know, in 2016, he never, you know, had never run for political office before. Of course, 2020 was the incumbent that was completely hijacked by the virus and changed everything. But starting this campaign as we did, the boss was very determined. I mean, I've never seen anybody work as hard As he does. I mean, it's 20 it's 23 hours a day. You know, I have this story of the flight back on the last night or the camp, you know, before Election Day, November 4th. We left Michigan at two thirty in the morning and we're flying to Palm Beach and the entire course, the plane is packed. And the entire time, you know, the boss is up. I mean, he's he's he was up the entire night. I don't think he slept. Yeah. So his energy is determination, his focus. And, you know, and what people didn't see was all the times that. All the rallies and everything that the president had done, what they didn't see was in between all of those rallies, whether he was in the limousine in the Beast or whether he was on the plane, he's doing these teletown hall rallies, which are exhausting. We were always worried about him losing his voice. But, you know, look, we put together a professional operation. The boss wanted a professional operation that was there to support – His candidacy. And, you know, we we were very confident in the people that we had surrounded ourselves with. The boss was very confident. And, you know, we put together a great operation that supported him and gave him the confidence. you know, to, to work those 23, 24 hours a day. So it just, it was, it was just, it was from top to bottom minus a few hiccups, which everyone has. It was really, we're just very well run, very well executed. And we had the confidence of the boss and that's all you need when you have the confidence and he sets the tone, it really makes things a lot easier.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. You you had a hard job, not just because of the normal hiccups of a campaign, but you started running against one person and wound up having to run against somebody totally different. How shocked were you when Joe Biden did drop out of the race? I mean, obviously, the debate was a shock.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Honest. Honestly, I'm not surprised at all. You know, as a matter of fact, you know, the the the debate in June. Tony and I and Susie, Tony Fabrizio, the pollster, and a brilliant guy. And we're literally in the back room, in the green room, watching the debate. And we're five minutes into the debate, and we're like, he's not going to last. And that was the realization that someone was going to try a coup. And, of course, they did. But, no, we weren't the least bit surprised at that. I mean, we just weren't. I mean, it was such – Just horrific, you know, experience to to bear witness to. It was like a slow moving train wreck.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I was sitting I was sitting in the at the debate outside on the CNN panel with David Axelrod and Van Jones and some others. And I mean, it was just universal. It was kind of crazy. They tried to hang on for like three weeks, and it was amazing they tried to hang on. It was amazing how they – ultimately the party bosses and the billionaires sort of defenestrated the president of the United States. But you all transitioned seamlessly into running against Harris. I mean it was really brilliant the way you handled it because no one has ever had to deal with this before. I mean it's totally off the script. And what was it like inside the campaign?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, look, and that would be a great title for a book that I'll never write, but it really is a campaign of firsts, and those firsts are defined by so many – massive events i mean you know first it was it was let's keep him off the ballot through the use of the 14th amendment so we had to put together you know uh campaigns legal campaigns in the states that battled through state supreme courts and battled secretaries of state um who were literally trying to to keep him off the ballot then you know we had the legal battles in new york And the bogus use of the criminal justice system in indictments and convictions and then, of course, assassination attempts too.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you did have some of the most unusual circumstances, and I'm not done with this conversation, so I'm going to ask you to stick with me through the bottom here. Because it's unprecedented what you did, and you deserve a full chance to explain it. I'm Scott Jennings in for Mike Gallagher. Our guest is Chris LaCivita. Stay with us.
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I did not expect Hitler to get so many meeting requests, first from Joe Biden, now from Mika and Joe. It's amazing that literal Hitler is getting all these meeting requests. And what it tells me, Professor, is that all the rhetoric that came from the left, from the Democrats, from the White House, from Kamala Harris and everyone else before the election, all of the rhetoric, the fascism, the Hitler, the Nazi rally, it was all a bunch of BS.
SPEAKER 07 :
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Scott Jennings sitting in for the legend Mike Gallagher today. And boy, isn't it true? They called him Hitler. They said he's having Hitler rallies, fascism. It was all a lie. It was all politics. It was all just made up rhetoric to try to scare the American people into electing Kamala Harris. But the American people were not having it. Donald Trump was elected. And lo and behold, now that the election is over, Donald Trump He's running a transition. He's meeting with the outgoing president. He's getting people all the way from Morning Joe to Justin Trudeau or trekking down to Mar-a-Lago to pay their respects. So just remember, folks, remember who told you what in the run-up to the 2024 election. And also remember this. Remember who led the Republican Party in 2024 to a House majority? None other than the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Mike Johnson. And he is our guest this morning on the Mike Gallagher Show. Speaker Johnson, first of all, it's an honor. to have you here. We're very appreciative of your time today. What you're doing is incredible. You're amazing. Everybody likes you. Mitch McConnell likes you. Donald Trump likes you. Everybody in the Republican Party likes you because you're doing a great job. So I just want to congratulate you on you've only been speaker for a little over a year. But boy, what you and the Republicans have accomplished is amazing. And what I really want to ask you this morning is what do we have to expect out of the first hundred days? Because I think it's going to be great.
SPEAKER 02 :
A lot, Scott. Thanks for that very kind intro. Everybody likes you, my friend. I just wanted to say before we get started, you're killing it on CNN. I mean, look, I flip through there on occasion. I want to see what's happening. And I'm so glad you're holding the line for our side. And sometimes you have to do it on your own. And that's not an easy assignment. So I hope everybody doesn't underestimate the job you're doing. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Honored to hear that. Thanks for that. Yeah, look, we did achieve a big thing in this election. You know, everybody in the media, the Democrats, they were all mocking us all year. As I was traveling around the country, I wound up going to do campaign events, over 360 campaign events in more than 250 cities across 40 states last year, logged enough miles to circle the globe five and a half times. We left it all on the field, and all of us did. All the House Republicans did the heavy lift, and we got it done. So we kept the House majority. We, of course, got the majority in the Senate. And Donald J. Trump is being returned to the White House. So we will have unified government beginning in January. And my goodness, what a blessing this is for the country, because we got to we got to turn this thing around. We got to save the country and fix everything. So it will begin right out of the gates. That reconciliation process is very important. And people will hear that term a lot in the coming months. But what it means in layman's terms is that there's a there's one mechanism that. in the United States Senate that allows a party to advance its priorities without having to get the 60 vote threshold. That's been a killer for so many things, policy changes that we've wanted over the years. But the budget reconciliation process is the way to do it with a bare majority vote. We have 53 Republicans in the Senate now. We can do it with 51 votes and we should have all of them. So what we do is when you're reconciling a budget that has been passed by Congress and you're working to reduce inflation, or expenses or cut regulations, that kind of thing. So long as it's related to the budget and to that fiscal policy, it can fit through that window. So we've been working on this for about a year, Scott. We've been developing, forgive me, I'm from Louisiana, so I explain everything in a football or a hurricane metaphor. Let me give you the football metaphor. We've been designing the playbook, understanding that we, and believing that we would be given the ball back in January through Congress. And so the playbook is well designed. We're integrating that with the new head coach in this analogy who's been elected, Donald J. Trump. I'm the quarterback in this metaphor, and the team is going to be ready to take the field. And you'll see lots of things right out of the blocks because that first 100 days is going to be critical for us turning the country around.
SPEAKER 05 :
So you've got 220 Republicans, 215 Democrats. You feel unconfident. that the Republicans who've come back to Washington in your conference are going to stick together. I mean, to pull off this plan, we have to have party unity. And I hope what the people in the conference are interpreting the election results as is a mandate from the American people for the Republican Party to be unified and to act on behalf of the American people. Do you feel that spirit? Is that the vibe in the conference right now?
SPEAKER 02 :
It is the vibe. Look, I'm talking to you just about an hour and a half after our weekly gathering of the House Republicans. Yesterday, I spent about an hour with the Senate Republicans. And this is a bipartisan, I'm not a bipartisan, a bicameral effort, right? The House Republicans and the Senate Republicans working together as one team because we have to do that. When we have this moment, this rare moment in history of unified government where we control everything, The White House, the Senate and the House, we have to maximize the opportunity. So to your point, yes, with small margins, we have to keep everybody rowing in the same direction, you know, working off the same sheet of music or running the same plays in my football metaphor. Right. So it requires a lot of teamwork. It requires a lot of preparation to get to that point. where that can be implemented and we've been working on this for like i said almost a year um building up to this anticipation now we'll have 31 new republicans in the house we're excited about the incoming freshman class to we flipped some seats out there and we we got those who retired those seats replaced the republicans And they're being integrated right now into the team as well. So we'll come right out of the blocks and do some big things for the country. I mean, you know, the priorities of the American people in that mandate you talked about are very well defined. The American people demand and deserve border security. So we'll come right out of the blocks to do that. And President Trump, of course, made it a top priority. priority on the campaign trail and we got to deliver on it. We will get right to energy policy. If we can restore American energy dominance again, and we can under President Trump's leadership, that's the key not only to our economy, but to national security as well. We all know the reasons why. And then we'll be reducing inflation and ushering in a pro-growth economy. We've got to make sure that the largest tax increase in U.S. history doesn't happen at the end of next year because that's when the Trump-era tax cuts would expire. So we've got to make sure all that's taken care of. And we unpack it from there. There's lots of... uh big priorities that we have for the people and we'll roll it out methodically a lot of this will happen in the first 100 days as i said with the reconciliation process but we'll have a couple of different uh shots at that and we'll do it throughout the year so expect big changes and i think these cabinet picks by the way are going to be part of that as well
SPEAKER 05 :
So energy, unleashing American energy, extending the tax cuts, getting the border under control. I mean my view is that the Republican Party working with Donald Trump gets all this done. As you all look ahead to the 2026 midterm, I know it's sort of obscene to keep talking about elections all the time. But you're in the House. You're always in cycle. But it strikes me that if the Republican Party can – that's how he won. I mean the stuff you laid out is how he won. If we can deliver on that – The Republicans are going to have no trouble in 2026 because people are crying out for leadership. We've had a weak president and a Democratic Party with priorities that are so far afield from what people are actually worried about. I just – what I love hearing out of you this morning – is the focus, the absolute focus. And so my hat's off to you for focusing the conference. We got about 30 seconds left here, Speaker Johnson. What should we be looking for between now and January 20th? I know the new Congress takes over at the beginning of January, but between now and when Donald Trump comes in, anything people should be looking for out of the House Republicans?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes. Look, we're going to work hard from the very first day. We begin on January 3rd in the House before the president takes office on the 20th. So we're going to send some things through and have legislation ready for him to sign. And, of course, he'll come in with a flurry of executive orders as well. Lots of stuff on the horizon. We're excited. We've got to also, by the way, restore peace through strength. He's already beginning that before he even takes office. And we've got to slash regulations to get the economy going again. Lots will be happening, Scott. It's going to be an exciting time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mike Johnson hitting the ground running. Mr. Speaker, thanks for being with us. I'm Scott Jennings in for the great Mike Gallagher. Last half of the show, last quarter of the show coming up. Stay with us.
SPEAKER 09 :
We're going to find out.
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Join Al Smith in this insightful episode of 'Retirement Unpacked' as he helps listeners navigate the crucial financial moves needed before year-end. With topics ranging from IRA contributions and qualified charitable distributions to Roth conversions, Al provides expert advice to ensure your retirement planning stays on track. The episode also delves into the dos and don'ts of holiday spending, offering strategies to manage gift purchases smartly without falling into debt.
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Welcome to another program of Retirement Unpacked. I want to thank you for tuning in. It's a great day here in Colorado, and I have some good information for you. Before I dive into that, I'm going to be doing these reminders for the next several programs because there are some financial things that we must pay attention to before the end of the year. Now, IRA contributions and Roth contributions, you can wait on those until April 15th or until you do your taxes, assuming if you did your taxes on April 15th. However, there are some things that need to be done by year-end. Those of you who are listening and are over age 73 or age 73 or over, will have required minimum distributions from your IRA. And something you may or may not know about, there's something called a QCD. What that is, That is called a qualified charitable distribution. And what that means is you can move money from your IRA if you have required minimum distributions and they can go directly to your church or to the American Cancer Society, or to the Red Cross, or any 501 nonprofit. It has to go directly from the IRA to the charitable institution, and you do not have to declare that as income. And this isn't a deduction like if you itemize your deduction. This is just money that goes from your retirement account to the nonprofit that you do not have to declare as income. Now, if you take a distribution from your IRA and you put it in your checking account, and then you write a check to that institution, it doesn't work that way. In order to have it go not taxed, it has to go directly from the IRA to the charitable institution, and there is a special form you can use to make that happen. If that's something that your own advisor hasn't guided you toward or explained, give my office a call and I can help you get through that. My number is 303-744-1128. The other big thing that needs to be done before December 31st is Roth conversions. You have the opportunity and the option to convert all or part of your traditional IRA to Roth. Now, when you do that, you pay tax on it at the time that you do it, but all of the growth of that Roth and the future income from it will be tax-free. Now, there's a small caveat. The first five years, if you take money out of the Roth, the growth or the interest would be taxable. After five years, both the amount you convert and the growth or the interest will be tax-free. But that does have to be done before December 31st. And what I usually recommend people do is especially if they come into my office, is bring in, if you're working, bring in the pay stub from your most recent pay stub so we can get a feel for what kind of tax bracket you're going to be in, and we can select an amount to convert. from your traditional IRA that will keep you in the same tax bracket that you are now. So these are some things that need to be done before the end of the year. It's also not a bad idea to do a little bit of planning toward the end of the year because by that time usually you have some idea how well you've done during the year and And any downfalls or pitfalls or praises that you have, things that have gone well, it's a good idea to sort of reflect on those and take a look and see where you are financially. Which brings me to today's topic. It is that time of year that many of you, probably all of you, are going to be doing some Christmas shopping. And it's a time that can be harmful to you financially if you put all of your purchases on a credit card or if you overspend or any one of those things. So although it's a joyous time of year, we're celebrating Christmas. the birth of our Savior, but at the same time, purchasing gifts is traditional. I'm not suggesting you not do that, but there are some ways to make it more or less beneficial, not only to you, but to those for whom you may be purchasing gifts. And some ways to save, it's a little bit like anything else. If you do some planning, And what I suggest is that you create a budget for yourself, a realistic budget. I heard on one of the big national news channels that the average person spends about $600 to $700 on Christmas gifts. And so I'm not telling you how much to spend, but I would create a budget. And then once you've created that budget, think in terms of allocating a particular dollar amount for each person for whom you're making a purchase. And once you do that, it makes shopping a little bit easier when you begin with a plan. I always talk about how important it is to have a retirement plan. And I think having a plan for doing your Christmas shopping also makes some sense. And some things to do I think that are important is allocate a dollar amount for each person for whom you're purchasing a gift, something that is reasonable. And once you have allocated that dollar amount, start thinking in terms of the person for whom you're getting this gift. What kind of things does this person like? And if there's a certain thing a person likes, you can sort of guide your gift in that direction. And you can also be flexible in the amount you spend. Hypothetical example, let's say if you know someone who really loves to play golf. And you know this person already has lots of golf equipment, so you don't necessarily want to get him a particular piece of equipment, a club or something like that, that is necessary. tremendously unique and he or she may or may not like it but it's fairly certain that this person who loves golf is going to need golf balls and you can get those in a sleeve with as few as three and I don't recall the exact dollar amount but I think it's under ten dollars or you can get as many as a dozen and depending on The brand of ball, that can be between $25 and $50. So you can tailor a gift when it's something like that based on the amount of those that you may be looking for. And I think if you're really familiar with the likes and dislikes of the person for whom you're shopping, it certainly makes it easier. And the big question is, should you do your shopping online or should you go to a brick-and-mortar store? Now, online has tremendous advantages. You can sit at your kitchen table or at your desk and peruse Amazon or any other websites that you want. You can find really cool, extravagant gifts at L.L. Bean or Walmart. places like that that have wonderful gifts that are highly priced, or you could find some bargain things through Amazon or many other sites. The disadvantage, obviously, when you're shopping online, you can't touch it, feel it, you can't necessarily ask questions about it, although you could probably get reviews and so forth, but it's extremely efficient. On the other hand, if it's something that you feel that you need to touch and see and ask questions about, then going to a brick and mortar store makes a lot more sense. If you're thinking about a clothing item, a sweater or something like that, you can touch it and feel it and you can actually hold it up to get some idea if it will fit the person for whom you're doing the shopping. One of the other things I highly recommend is shopping early. Some things that make very attractive gifts, when you go online, you will find that they are out of stock. On the other hand, by shopping early, and it's maybe early now, here we are a few weeks before Christmas, but it's certainly not too early to get a lot of your shopping out of the way. There's going to be a greater selection, no questions. Now, some things I would recommend that you don't do are go to a shopping mall without specifics in mind. You can have a good time in Cherry Creek or Park Meadows or whatever with, you know, an unused credit card or a fat amount in your bank. Use your debit card. and end up doing your shopping that way. But if you don't have specifics in mind, you're going to end up getting something that is the shiny object or just something that catches your eye, which may be sort of impulsive rather than something you really haven't thought through. One thing I would not do is purchase a gift for someone that is not returnable. Most gifts are returnable, but some of them aren't. And I think by going with something specific in mind, It's far better, especially if that specific thing is returnable. And if you know exactly what that item is, then I think it's fine to go online to do your shopping. And some other important things, let's say if someone really likes music. Find out exactly what kind of music they like before you get them a CD or a collection or whatever it is. A really cool gift, you may know someone who collects vinyl records. Well, you can find older vinyl records. I think there's a record store or two in Denver and Boulder that have old vinyl records that are in very good condition. That would be extremely unique. And when you're shopping, think in terms not of what you think is cool and what you like, but think about that other party. What does that other party like? What does he or she collect? People who collect certain things are going to be always happy to get one more of whatever it is. I know people who collect mugs. They have a mug from everywhere they have ever been. I know other people collect little shot glasses. Those are pretty insignificant gifts, but there are things that you can purchase for people for Christmas that will enhance what they are already collecting. Art. I wouldn't too much recommend providing art for a gift unless you know very specifically about the taste of the person for whom you're shopping because art is very much in the eye of the beholder. You could show me an item of art that might sell for thousands of dollars and I may not like it and I could also go to a thrift store and find something that's very inexpensive, and I might find that very pleasing to the eye. So unless you know really the kind of art someone likes, I would lean away from that as far as a gift. But there's a lot more to talk about, about purchasing Christmas gifts and minimizing the amount you spend and looking at some original gifts, which we'll talk about after the break.
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Welcome back to Retirement Unpacked. And we talked a little bit about some of the things that you need to do before the end of the year. And that included required minimum distributions and also possible Roth conversions. And if those are something that you may be looking at, if those transactions are on your mind, give my office a call and we'll make sure that that it gets done right. My number is 303-744-1128. We've been talking about trying to save money during Christmas. Well, the word save money is sort of an acronym because our culture has taught us that you save money by buying something that's discounted 10%. You've saved money. And the reality is of the vocabulary is you save money by not spending money, whether it's at full price or a discount. But that's how our culture has, especially our advertising and marketing culture, has sort of usurped the language. But we're talking about how when you plan work, what you're going to purchase for someone for Christmas, and allocate a dollar amount, you're far better off, and that's much better than going to the mall without some specific things in mind because that can lead you to the shiny object, maybe to some things that are more expensive, and if you end up spending more on a particular individual or couple or something, that leaves less money for everyone else. But let's think about something. that might be more original. Not necessarily an inexpensive item, but I have seen some things that might look like a very attractive gift. I've seen opportunities where you can ride the railway through the Royal Gorge. And they have those, I think they have them throughout the winter, although I'm not absolutely certain. I have not done that, but I have been to the Royal Gorge and seen it, and I can only imagine that riding that train would be a wonderful experience. So that is something you could get a couple. I would certainly enjoy that more going with someone else, someone who enjoys photography like I do. A 23 and me. So I know a lot of people, they think, well, gee, I think I'm English, Irish, a little German or whatever. But when you do one of those DNA tests, if you know someone in particular who has not have that done, they might find it very interesting. They might find some relatives they did not know they had. They may find some genetic links to some parts of the world where they did not know they had any relatives. A lot of things can be original gifts, so to speak. If you know someone truly enjoys a particular activity, and that activity, you have to buy tickets or whatever it is, tickets to a particular event, while they're not inexpensive, that can be a really special gift if you're trying to please someone who likes maybe going to the theater or to plays. or to Nuggets games or Avs games. And if those are beyond the budget, go to a DU hockey game. I've not been to one, but I've heard they're very exciting. And nearly every year, Denver University has a very high quality hockey team. I know they've won the national championships more than once. So some original things. I know people who have gone to visit the four heads in South Dakota, Mount Rushmore. And if you know someone who's already planning to go there, kick in a little bit extra so that they can go on a helicopter ride. because viewing Mount Rushmore as well as Crazy Horse from a helicopter would be, in my thinking, an awesome experience, because I think I've seen pictures of it taken from a helicopter, and that would be tremendous. Another example, I would love to go on a helicopter ride on the 4th of July, At about the same time, fireworks were being shot off in multiple areas throughout the city. If you know someone who really likes to ski but they don't get up too often because of the cost or one thing or another, buy someone some lift tickets. So a lot of different things you can do. And I think I mentioned it earlier, but you may know someone who – you know, collects things. I know someone who collects these nutcrackers and the person already has a pretty good extensive collection of those. So knowing a person really well makes shopping for him or her much, much easier. Some other things. What if you know some young people and you didn't really know what to purchase for them? How about opening up an investment account? Well, you don't necessarily need enormous amounts of money to do that. you can open up an investment account through me for as little as $100. It's a few hoops to jump through with paperwork and so forth, but once the account is open, this young person, and this can be a teenager or somebody in their 20s that does not have an investment account, you can link that account to their bank. So that young person can, in addition to investing in the stock market at a young age, he or she can have automatically moved from their bank account into their investment account a certain amount of money that they want to invest every week, every month, however they want to do that. And establishing that at a young age can have tremendous rewards when they are older and I have met lot of people who are in or near retirement but I have not had anyone that I sat down and said sir or you and your wife have saved too much money I've never had that opportunity arise but I do know that by starting early and having that compound interest work for you, there will be a lot of better choices later in life. And it doesn't, I don't mean just retirement, I mean when people get married and want to buy a house, things like that. Now, what about circumstances where, for whatever reason, you really don't have a lot of money to spend, but you have some time and some imagination? You can provide very, very useful service to people who may really, really enjoy it. For example, If you know a couple with small children, you can provide a certificate for free babysitting for whatever period of time that you want to do that. If you know someone who's a caregiver, offer to do that caregiving yourself so that that person can have a day or a night off or something like that. If you know a couple, perhaps, who really enjoys a particular kind of food, Mexican food, Italian food, whatever it is, offer to make that couple or individual a gourmet meal. Now these are things that you can do without spending a lot of money. Offer to detail someone's car. Offer to clean someone's home or apartment. Pay for a class for someone to take for something they like to do. Photography. kayaking, climbing, offer maybe a one-day bicycle tour or a coupon for an oil change. There's all kinds of things you can do to make your Christmas more joyous and make Christmas joyous for those whom you love. God bless you. Thank you for tuning in. Let's continue to pray for the leaders who will be leading our country in a few months. And also, let's continue to pray for the folks in Israel. Thanks for tuning in. Again, God bless you. Hopefully, you'll be here next week.
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