SPEAKER 09 : 0:03

This is Ready Radio, preparing you to be ready for anything, now.

SPEAKER 07 : 0:09

Here’s your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. And it’s Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Thank you all for listening today. We appreciate it greatly. And let me get Bill Anderson up with us. Bill, welcome. How are you?

SPEAKER 11 : 0:24

I’m doing well today, John.

SPEAKER 07 : 0:25

A little cloudier today, but we’ll take it. Winter’s coming.

SPEAKER 11 : 0:30

It’s coming. It definitely is.

SPEAKER 07 : 0:31

We’ll talk about some of that today.

SPEAKER 11 : 0:32

I think it’s supposed to be nice tomorrow, but, you know.

SPEAKER 07 : 0:34

Yeah, it’s not going to be this way forever. We’ll get into some of that. Before we do, last week we got to talking about, you know, concealed carry and the laws that are on the books and some of the changes that are coming. And I had a person just text a few minutes ago, Bill, that basically said, you know, he has a problem with the way that we stated that it’s, you know, if you’re caught carrying and doing things without a concealed weapons license, permit, you could lose that privilege of having that particular, you know, quote unquote, license down the road. And his point was, you know, by federal law and our Second Amendment rights, we have the ability to do so. It’s the states that have infringed upon that. And my comment back is, well, I get that. And you and I both agree, by the way. But at the end of the day, the law is the law. Unless you’ve got a lot of dollars to go fight it. I don’t really know what else to say, Bill, because it’s expensive to fight these things if you don’t have the cash to do so.

SPEAKER 11 : 1:25

Yeah, and people got to hear what we’re saying. And what we’re saying is we’re not saying we agree or disagree with what it is. We’re just stating the facts. Correct. Here’s the facts. Here’s the law.

SPEAKER 07 : 1:38

And really quick for everybody listening, I disagree. with a lot of the gun laws we have on the books, not just in Colorado, but in a multitude of states. I’m one that says that the founders, the reason we have the Second Amendment is not to protect ourselves against the bad guys, but to protect ourselves against a tyrannical government, meaning that we have full rights to do anything we need to do. In fact, I would go one step further, and even all of those that are on the other side of the aisle that would say, well, that doesn’t mean you should be able to own machine guns and cannons and bombs and so on. Frankly, Bill, there’s a good argument that says, well, yeah, actually, I believe that was the founding father’s intent. We have laws on the books that don’t allow you to own a machine gun without a full, you know, license and a stamp and all sorts of other rigmarole you have to go through, which, frankly, I don’t agree with either. But that’s the law that’s there. And frankly, that law has been challenged numerous times and no one has won yet.

SPEAKER 11 : 2:36

Yeah. Yeah. We again, we’re not saying we agree or disagree. I mean, we do disagree with the law, but that’s not the point of our statement. Our statement is that’s what it is. And you can choose whatever battle you want to fight.

SPEAKER 07 : 2:49

And for me personally, that’s not a battle that. I choose to fight because those are, for those of you listening, those are very expensive battles to go through. And remember that depending upon who’s in charge, what jurisdiction you’re in, who actually decides to, quote unquote, write you a ticket or in some cases arrest you, Bill, some of these things could result in felony charges, meaning you have a lot of other problems now.

SPEAKER 11 : 3:16

Yeah, you’ve opened up the door to a lot of other stuff. And here’s the situation you’ve put yourself into. A, I can have the proper permit so that I can carry my gun and I have my gun. Or B, I get caught and now they take and confiscate all my guns. And now through that battle, I have no gun. Right. I’m not fighting any battle. So, I mean, it’s, again, I’ll say it again, choose your battle, whatever you want.

SPEAKER 07 : 3:41

Well, and this particular person is basically saying, you know, I’d love them to challenge someone like him who is, you know, a law-abiding citizen that’s never had a problem, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Again, Bill, like I just said, and I want to be a reminder to everybody listening, that’s not the point. And there’s a lot of law-abiding citizens that have had no record whatsoever that find themselves at the wrong end of the law, depending upon who’s in charge and what jurisdiction you’re in and so on. And if they want to make an example out of you, Bill, they will.

SPEAKER 11 : 4:12

Right. And if you ever have to use your guns— in a self-defense situation, the lawyers are coming out. Whether you’re right or wrong in the use of force, you’re going to fight that battle, and you’re probably going to lose that civil battle because, oh, you didn’t have a gun. I mean, I know a lot of people that have been in motorcycle accidents where it wasn’t even their fault. But because they didn’t have a motorcycle license, guess what? Now, they were a violation because they weren’t supposed to be driving a motorcycle if they didn’t have a license. So therefore, they took away all their power.

SPEAKER 07 : 4:43

And you bring up a great point. This isn’t even just, for those of you listening, on the criminal side. You can sue somebody over a ham sandwich on the civil side. And I gave an example on Rush to Reason the other day of a local case whereby there was a ride up in Glenwood. I don’t agree with the verdict, by the way, but the jury awarded the… into the family that was basically the victim of a child’s death, at the end of the day, $200 million award. And if this continues on and they’re not able to fight that and somehow get that lowered down to whatever their insurance would cover, Bill, at the end of the day, that would wipe out that business. they would say, well, you don’t have anything to lose. Actually, that’s not true. The way civil cases work, and by the way, this really goes along with what we talk about on Ready Radio because all of this stuff goes into preparedness end of things. For those of you that don’t realize, if you lose a civil case and there is a judgment against you, You may very well not have the money to pay said judgment, but here’s how that works. Your wages and whatever you make from that point forward will be garnished and go towards that judgment, meaning you won’t have a pot to pee in the rest of your life.

SPEAKER 11 : 5:53

Yeah, they can seize whatever assets you have. That’s right. Your 401ks, your retirements, any stocks, anything like that.

SPEAKER 07 : 6:01

Here’s a really quick, for all of you that don’t believe me, there’s a true story. I use this as an example quite a bit on Drive Radio on Saturdays when it comes to car insurance. There was an example that I got, a personal example years ago from a listener. where there was a grandfather, fairly well-to-do grandfather, and the grandson was getting the license and learning to drive and so on. So grandfather buys grandson a car and insures it in his name and so on. Well, lo and behold, something happens. There’s a bad accident. Several people are killed. And because it was in grandfather’s name and grandfather’s insurance, grandfather lost everything. Yeah. So all of you listening, you may not think this is a big deal. I’m here to tell you it is.

SPEAKER 11 : 6:44

It absolutely is, John. And you have to awaken to that. And here’s the other response to I have the other comment. I’m a law-abiding citizen. I’m good. I’m good. I’m good. But you know what? That’s the same argument that the liberals are using with the immigrants. Hey, these guys are good. These guys are good. But yet they broke the law.

SPEAKER 07 : 7:04

Good point.

SPEAKER 11 : 7:04

So they could be totally good. They could be an asset to society. They could be great people not breaking any law. Oh, but you broke one. You came across illegally. So, you know, we’ve got to stop the hypocritical statements. I’m sorry, but that’s what it is.

SPEAKER 07 : 7:22

You’re right. No, I agree with you. I agree with what you’re saying. And my point with some of this is, you know, comment back, as I doubt they would get that technical over quote-unquote paperwork. Carrying a gun concealed and then firing that weapon at some point in time, you’re involved in something, Bill, and you don’t, like you said, you don’t actually have – you know, the proper credentials, quote unquote, to do so. That’s where things start to snowball and get kind of hairy. And again, depending upon where you’re at, what jurisdiction you’re in and how hard a local district attorney, by the way, wants to be and how much of an example out of you he wants to make or she wants to make. Again, Bill, at the end of the day, personally speaking, that’s just not a path I want to go down.

SPEAKER 11 : 8:07

Yeah, and even if you live in a pro-gun county, you’ve still got that civil fight you’re going to have to fight. And how much are you willing to spend to defend yourself? Right. I mean, that’s – we just – having the same conversation here over and over again.

SPEAKER 07 : 8:23

I know, but my point on the ready part of it is, folks, this applies to, by the way, a lot of areas that I personally don’t agree with. For example, Bill, in your world, in the electrician world, there’s all sorts of things that you frankly have to go and pull permits for that personally I look at and say that’s nothing more than the city or the county wanting to extract dollars at the end of the day. That actual permit for you to go do that work isn’t going to really change the outcome of anything, but it’s a way for them to

SPEAKER 11 : 8:50

collect revenue absolutely and the price of permits are going through the roof right now and not only that but now they’re charging you per the permit based on your material cost so yeah I mean how many hands or how many times are we going to hit yep sales tax right basically that’s what it is that’s exactly what it is so again folks I don’t agree with any of this stuff I

SPEAKER 07 : 9:13

I don’t agree with the double taxation on used cars. I don’t agree with property tax to really get down to it. I don’t believe the way they do that. I don’t believe in paying for public education for kids that aren’t related to me. I mean, I can go down the list, Bill, of things that I don’t agree with, but here’s what happens. If I don’t pay my property taxes, Bill, what happens?

SPEAKER 11 : 9:34

They’re going to come and seize your property.

SPEAKER 07 : 9:36

Exactly. You don’t own it at the end of the day is what happens. So you cannot agree with something in principle, and there’s lots of things, Bill, that you, I, and a lot of others out there listening don’t agree with in principle, but that doesn’t change the outcome when something actually comes off it. That’s my point.

SPEAKER 11 : 9:56

Yeah, and here’s what I’ll say about this, because sometimes when we have this argument with people, they’re saying, oh, well, you’re just going to be a lemming, you’re just going to be a slave, you’re just… you know, turning your head and going along with the system, that I could hear some people saying that. Oh, so you’re just telling me just to go along and not really have any protests or buck the system or anything. Here’s what I’ll continue to say over and over and over and over again. Stop focusing on things you can’t control and focus on what you can control. And so that’s the way of the world. That’s the way it’s always been. In my opinion, it’s not going to get any better. It’s going to get worse. So you can either spend all this time and energy fighting the system or you can figure out what you can do. to have a more self-sufficient life outside of the system. Right, right.

SPEAKER 07 : 10:48

And if you want to be a part of the solutions in some of these areas, well, then you know what? Go find a candidate that you really like that you can get behind that you think might have influence. Go get behind some of these organizations, Rocky Mountain Gun Owners and so on. You know, there’s all sorts of organizations, you know, Second Amendment right organizations and so on out there, Bill, where you can donate and help those guys fight some of these causes. If that’s something you really, truly believe in, and I do, and I do donate to these individuals or to these organizations, I should say, Bill, because at the end of the day, those are things that one individual cannot fight City Hall, but collectively can we, and that’s what these organizations do. So if you really want to do something, go find somebody you trust and donate to them.

SPEAKER 11 : 11:31

Yeah, and that’s exactly right, John, because we have a lot of people, a lot of Monday morning quarterbacks, I call them. They’re now called keyboard warriors. They’re called whatever. They have a lot to say, but at the end of the day, they ain’t doing nothing. You know, they ain’t going down and participating in their, you know, Chamber of Commerce, or not the Chamber of Commerce, but their commissioners meeting or their town hall meetings or whatever their structure is and wherever they live. They’re not participating in any of those things. They’re not supporting organizations that, you know, to your point, have, you know, bigger weight. Some leverage. And they’re just complaining about stuff. And then the biggest thing you could do, too, is vote with your dollars. Right. You know, hey, if you know that, you know, so-and-so store… is kind of anti-whatever, then don’t shop there.

SPEAKER 07 : 12:20

Great example, Bill. Years ago, Panera Bread came out and said, listen, we don’t want, we’ve got a gun-free zone, we don’t want you carrying inside of our stores. Bill, I’ve been to one Panera ever since then, and typically if I go, it’s because somebody else invited and they want to have a meeting there and there’s nowhere else to go, so you just, you know, grin and bear, and by the way, I still carry inside because I really don’t care about their policy, but at the end of the day, that’s their policy and I can choose to spend my money elsewhere, and I do.

SPEAKER 11 : 12:45

Yeah, exactly. So you can do your own boycott, if you will.

SPEAKER 07 : 12:49

And really quick, in that example, some of you would say, well, John, I thought you just said a moment ago you need to abide by the law and do this and do that. Store policy, Bill, is not law.

SPEAKER 11 : 12:57

It’s not law, and they can’t arrest you. No.

SPEAKER 07 : 13:01

They can ask you to leave if they were to actually see that you’re carrying. They could ask you to leave the premises, and then you would have to leave if they’re asking you to. But if they don’t notice and they don’t see you, there is not a single law that says you can’t carry in a restaurant.

SPEAKER 11 : 13:15

And if you refuse to leave and the police get involved, the only charge that you could get is trespassing. That’s right.

SPEAKER 07 : 13:20

That’s right. And, again, I know we’re kind of getting into some of the weeds. I probably should have our attorney on here at some point and go through some of these things. And he’ll tell you the same thing. Kevin’s very level-headed, Kevin Flesher. What he’ll tell you is, you know, don’t make a mountain out of a molehill unless you really have to. If there’s a principle and there’s something you really want to make a stink out of, okay, great, hire him, go for it, and do so. But in a lot of cases, Bill, you’re better off to just, you know, walk away, ignore it, move on. In that case, you know, you’re in a place, a business, you know, a merchant, and they ask you to leave because they see that you’re carrying or something along those lines. Okay, best thing to do is say, yep, yep, you know, I get it. That’s your policy. I honor that, and I’m going to leave. Goodbye. Yeah, just leave. Don’t make a stink out of it is my point.

SPEAKER 11 : 14:05

The employees won’t even say anything anyway. They’ll just probably call the police on you, and you’ll be like, oh, well, they didn’t ask me to leave. Sorry, I didn’t see the sign. I leave, and go on, right?

SPEAKER 07 : 14:14

Yeah, again, just to make sure that I’m clear, a lot of folks are going to say, well, John, you just said, you know, abide by the law, do this, do that. That’s not law. That’s not law. Thank you, Bill. At the end of the day, that’s a store policy, which, you know, hey, I’m also a business owner. And I’ve said this numerous times, whether you like a store’s policy or not, I will always defend the right of a business to have whatever policy they want. Because at the end of the day, the customers can decide whether they want to do business there or not, and that’ll take care of itself. So at the end of the day, I’m still one bill that will give every owner the right, whether it’s right, wrong, or otherwise, I will honor their right to make whatever policy they want, whether I agree or disagree.

SPEAKER 11 : 14:54

Right, yeah. And you know, the thing too, John, is a lot of people like to quote what they think is law. And it’s the furthest thing from law. People don’t know what the law is. They’ve either heard somebody else, they’re just regurgitating information, or maybe they’re hearing something through the false news that we have, or, you know, the Google or whatever, chat GPT, which gives incorrect information all the time. My point is, is a lot of people don’t actually know what law is, and they run around quoting stuff. Like, here’s a great one, right? I saw on Facebook on the marketplace or next door or whatever it was. They’re like, you have to have 10 acres in order to shoot in Elbert County. Nope.

SPEAKER 07 : 15:33

No, that’s not true.

SPEAKER 11 : 15:34

You just have to ensure the bullet doesn’t leave your property.

SPEAKER 07 : 15:38

Yeah, because for an example, Bill, you could own 10 acres, but if you’re shooting improperly and you’re right next to your fence line, for example, and you’re not paying attention, that bullet strays out of your area and goes somewhere else, you’re still liable.

SPEAKER 11 : 15:53

Right. And that’s really the only requirement is that you can insure that a bullet doesn’t leave your property. There’s no set amount of… No, I mean, I live in unincorporated Jefferson County.

SPEAKER 07 : 16:03

There is no law against shooting. And even though I’m close to the city, if I wanted to set up my own, quote unquote, indoor shooting range, I mean, I’m too close to houses to do any kind of outside shooting. But if I wanted to go and actually put even some of those portable shooting ranges that are built inside of containers, if I wanted to put one of those in, I’m well within my right to do so, Bill.

SPEAKER 11 : 16:24

Yeah, yeah. So people just don’t know the law.

SPEAKER 07 : 16:26

No. Okay, so before we go to break, along those lines, since we just got done talking about concealed carry and all of that, you being an instructor, what areas by law are you not allowed to conceal carry in? Federal. Federal.

SPEAKER 11 : 16:43

So you’re not supposed to carry into, you know, what would be like a courthouse or, you know, a school or, you know, post office, anything that is federal government is really it. So maybe city county buildings just depends on that local code there. But federally, yeah, we’re not carrying around, you know, schools. But here’s the thing. They did have a thing where they’re trying to pass where you couldn’t even have the gun in a school parking lot. So, you know, that kind of makes it hard, right? So if you are carrying and you’re going to honor the requirement that I can’t carry in the school, so I properly store my firearm in my car, my car can’t be in the parking lot. Now, that didn’t pass. So if I’m in the parking lot of the school, I can have my gun, right? It’s just when I enter into the building, you know, some people will say, oh, churches too. No, churches are private institutions.

SPEAKER 07 : 17:35

Churches set their own policy, quote-unquote.

SPEAKER 11 : 17:38

Yeah, so churches don’t fall underneath that. They tried to get it under there this last go-around. They were trying to include churches as a place of no-carry zones and stuff. But, you know, movie theaters, you know, stores, restaurants, whatever, you know, you can do whatever you want. But if they have a sign there, the only thing you can do is get caught for trespassing. And, you know, remember this. State of Colorado, statewide, you can open carry. You don’t need a permit. You just need to be 18 or whatever it is. So you could open carry. Now, there’s been a lot of changes because there used to be, and I don’t remember the name of the law, but there used to be a law where no city or county could supersede state law. And so everybody had to kind of ride the same law as the state law. That went away. So our current governor got that out of there. Now every county and city can make up their own rules, and you go through, you know, I can’t… I wouldn’t open carry in Denver, for example.

SPEAKER 07 : 18:41

You’re going to find yourself in a heap of trouble.

SPEAKER 11 : 18:44

Yeah, and you’re just asking for stuff anyway. I’d never open carry, because if something does go down, you’re probably number one on the hit list there, because they’re going to see that, and you just make yourself a target. But, you know… But anyway, you go through Westminster, hey, they’ve got a six-round magazine capacity, and you roll right across the road and you get into Arvada or whatever, and it changes, and it’s just ridiculous now anymore as to even what. The local codes are, because they did away with that, you know, can’t supersede state law. I think they were trying, they were talking about doing a national with the Second Amendment. Hey, your state firearms can’t supersede the national firearms, but I don’t know if that’ll ever happen.

SPEAKER 07 : 19:28

Which would be nice if they did.

SPEAKER 11 : 19:29

I heard they were trying to do something. Beautiful.

SPEAKER 07 : 19:31

Point being, you, I, you know, collectively, we don’t agree with everything that’s on the books. And there’s a lot of it we don’t agree with. But all we were saying is it is. And do you really want to go down that path at the end of the day? And what I will say, Bill, is, you know what, if you feel comfortable going down that path and that’s something that you’re not concerned about and you feel like you’ve got enough resources to handle whatever would come along, then, you know what, knock your socks off.

SPEAKER 11 : 19:55

Yeah, it’s the same argument, John. Again, we’re being hypocritical because we’ll get a big fuss about the Second Amendment, but do you understand what all your tax dollars are going towards? Right. I don’t agree with the majority of where the government is spending my tax dollars.

SPEAKER 07 : 20:11

True. True. Good point.

SPEAKER 11 : 20:13

So what do I do? Stop paying taxes? Good point.

SPEAKER 07 : 20:18

It’s like this whole, not that I want to get down on a rabbit trail and we’ve got to take a break, but it’s like this whole sovereign citizen nonsense. I saw a license plate the other day, I think it was on Facebook, where Somebody had, you know, a sovereign citizen, actual steel license plate that essentially said that, you know, they’re sovereign and they’re not subject to any of the regulations. You know, they’re they’re traveling. They’re not driving all that nonsense, by the way. And I’ve talked to plenty of attorneys on that. And it is utter nonsense, because at the end of the day, if you don’t handle that correctly after being pulled over, you’re probably going to the clink.

SPEAKER 11 : 20:51

Yeah, I mean, you could probably fight it, but how much are you willing, money and time, how much are you willing to spend to fight it?

SPEAKER 07 : 20:58

Well, and that one, unfortunately, has been shot down in court so many times that, you know, those of you that believe in that sovereign citizenship nonsense, good luck with that one.

SPEAKER 11 : 21:08

And here’s the best thing you can do, John. If you really have a problem with it, look up a state such as, like, Wyoming. or, you know, somewhere that, you know, they have a lot more liberties, they’re more gun-friendly, and go there. Yeah, go move.

SPEAKER 07 : 21:24

Great point. No, great point. Can’t argue that. All right, let’s take a break. We’re going to come back, talk about some things to get ready when it comes to winter, whether it be your home, your vehicle, you name it. We’ve got some things there we want to discuss. We’ll come right back. Again, Ready Radio, it’s ready-radio.com. Bill’s website, prep, the number two, prep2protectco.com. We’ll be right back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560.

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SPEAKER 07 : 26:08

All right, we are back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Again, website ready-radio.com. All right, Bill, let’s continue on. And I know we spent quite a bit of time recapping last week, but important stuff. And the only reason is because I got some text messages in on that, and I feel like when I do, and that’s the pulse of what’s going on, and we’ve got people commenting on it, I feel like it’s a time to address those things. And again, all of you listening, I’m not telling you what to do or not do. You guys are… You know, grown adults, you do whatever you feel like you need to do. Just remember every decision has a consequence. Right, Bill?

SPEAKER 03 : 26:42

Right.

SPEAKER 07 : 26:42

Yep, that’s it. That’s all I’m saying. So, okay, let’s get into prepping for winter. And given the fact that we’re heading down that path, and I might even continue some of this on into my show tomorrow on Drive Radio, let’s start on the vehicle side. I don’t know that we’ll get much further than that today anyways, given we’ve only got about a half an hour left. So give us some basic things that you feel, and I’ll add to this as well, some basic things you feel like people this time of the year, I mean, some things should be in a vehicle at all times, but especially in winter, what are some things folks should have in their vehicle?

SPEAKER 11 : 27:14

Well, especially this time of year, fall, where it could be 70, 80 during the day, and then once the sun goes down, drop down to the 40s. I think that’s something that, you know, me personally, I tend to forget. You know, you leave the house, you’re like, oh, it’s really nice out, and then you’re out for the rest of the day or whatever, and then You know, you’re getting 5 o’clock, 6 o’clock, and all of a sudden it’s like, oh, it’s getting chilly, and I don’t have a jacket with me. So, you know, one thing that I would definitely keep in the car is, you know, a lightweight jacket, maybe one of those puffers. You know, you could buy one of those puffers for 20-some bucks on Amazon that actually pack down, fold up into a nice little jacket. tight compartment there and just have that on hand. Now, the problem is, is when you get home and you wear that jacket and take it off and you’re like, oh, I didn’t get back to the car. So that’s that’s tends to be my problem is. I’ll do that. I’ll keep an umbrella in there. I’ll have some wool socks. These are the kind of things I just keep in there all the time anyway. Some wool socks. I’ll have a hat, whether it’s a stocking hat or a knit hat or whatever they’re called these days, beanies or whatever they’re called. I’ll have those in there. You know, one thing that I also do, especially around this time of year, and, you know, historically, we have had snow by now, you know, in years past. True, true. In mid-October, we had snow before.

SPEAKER 07 : 28:39

Yeah, we can have, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER 11 : 28:41

You know, I go to, you know, Walmart or whatever it is, and they have, like, the gallon-size kitty litter that you can buy in just a little gallon-size jug. Yeah, yeah. And I’ll throw one of those in the car because those can help. You know, you get the fall and the spring snows that turn into slush, and it just gets really slick and hard to navigate. So I’ll usually have a jug of kitty litter, you know, in all of my cars. I’ll have some of those collapsible shovels in there. You know, when we talk about these things, John, remember, you know, you can go to the extreme of, oh, my gosh, you know, I don’t got the trunk space for all the stuff you’re talking about. But, you know, you’ve got to look at your own situation.

SPEAKER 07 : 29:24

Well, and really quick, to your point, and this is where you’re right, and in some cases, depending upon what you’re driving, and I’ve had different vehicles throughout the course of my life, my driving career, I guess you could say, Bill, where some vehicles you have a little more room than others, and The downside, the ones that have more room, is you just pack it in with more stuff. You tend to not be quite as, how should I say, thoughtful in those particular things that you’re carrying. But, folks, let me tell you what. There’s a lot more room in your vehicle than you probably think. Here’s the key. Keep it clean in the first place. In other words, keep all of your other stuff clean. to a minimum, trash bags, things like that, you know, keep things clean. And remember, you’ve got places that are under seats, behind seats, things along those lines. So don’t just think that, well, I really don’t have any room in my trunk. Okay, well, do you have any other places? For example, that collapsible shovel that Bill just mentioned, most of those are short enough they would fit underneath the seat of most vehicles.

SPEAKER 11 : 30:22

Yeah, and usually around this time of year, Costco starts carrying a lot of this stuff.

SPEAKER 07 : 30:26

Correct.

SPEAKER 11 : 30:27

I don’t know if you’re Costco shoppers or not. They do. They come in two packs, actually.

SPEAKER 07 : 30:33

They do, and I always, usually this time of the year, even for my guys, I’ll buy a couple of two packs and throw in different trucks because nothing worse than getting stuck and all you needed was a little bit of a shovel to get out, and that’s all you need, and now you don’t have one.

SPEAKER 11 : 30:46

Right, and you’re not digging a trench with it, you know.

SPEAKER 07 : 30:48

No, you’re just trying to clean out away from the tires and stuff to where if you can get a little bit of traction, off you go.

SPEAKER 11 : 30:52

Yeah, and then you can throw in a little bit of that kitty litter or whatever, you know. Hey, you’re good, you know. I also keep, you know, kind of debate between the two, whether, you know, you have a toe strap or you have a toe rope. You know, I tend to like the rope a little bit.

SPEAKER 07 : 31:07

It doesn’t matter. I mean, really. And somebody used to sell those for years and years. Here’s the reality, folks. As long as you buy a high quality of either, it’s personal preference. It’s like, do I drive a Chevy or do I drive a Ford? Because at the end of the day, they will both do the same thing as long as you buy a good strap. What I mean by that is you can’t buy… a small inch and a half strap that’s rated for 10,000 pounds and expect to get even a small car pulled out because by the time that vehicle is weighted down in the snow, has other resistance against it, that’s not enough strap. If you buy a solid 25,000 or 30,000 pound strap, you won’t have any problems. And the reason I know that, Bill, for years and years and years, we didn’t have rope. All we had were those. That’s all I sold, and they did just fine.

SPEAKER 11 : 31:53

Yeah. And what I was referring to, John, is I tend to think I could have more other uses for a rope other than just towing. True. And that’s what I would mean by do I carry the rope or the strap? I mean, that’s my only thinking with that. But there’s also…

SPEAKER 07 : 32:08

I want to add one more thing to that, so folks, because this is really important. Never, ever, ever buy a strap with hooks built onto it. Those are cheap. They’re chintzy. Those hooks will break. They’ll fly through the windshield. They can actually kill people. At the end of the day, never buy a strap. And I’ll explain how you hook things up if you don’t have hooks, but you never buy any of those, Bill, with hooks on them.

SPEAKER 11 : 32:31

Right, and that’s what I was trying to say there was you look for attachment points.

SPEAKER 07 : 32:36

That’s right.

SPEAKER 11 : 32:36

Whether it’s a little – they’ve got those straps that are meant just for the attachment point. And what I mean by attachment point is I’m attaching the rope to this device, which attaches to the frame of my car. Um, and they’ve got different ones, you know, shorter straps, if you will, they’re in like the figure eight pattern or whatever they are.

SPEAKER 07 : 32:55

And the other thing too is, uh, for a lot of you listening, the other thing is in clevises are cheap. That’s what they’re called. They’re fairly good size. Uh, most of these straps, you can take even just the, the round end of the strap, the rope, whatever, put that onto an attachment point, use the clevis to make all that happen. and off you go, and it really is handy to do that. The other thing to be really careful of, and a lot of guys will do it, all the straps have the big U at the end of it, and a lot of guys will have a trailer ball on a truck or something along those lines, and the easiest thing to do is just throw that thing over the trailer ball. Well, the problem with that, Bill, is it can slip off the trailer ball, and again, once that rope gets to slinging, it can become a really dangerous object at that point, so be careful if you just throw that over a trailer ball.

SPEAKER 11 : 33:39

Right, you need to learn that. And, you know, I’d add to that, too, is learn a couple really good knots. Like, if you don’t know how to tie a bowline knot, you need to look that up, and that knot needs to be one of your go-to knots. You know, you could tie that with a rope. I could tie that with a strap. I could tie it with all kinds of different things. It’s a great knot that you can back back out of if you need to, but it doesn’t give. I mean, I’ve used that knot for years, the bowler knot.

SPEAKER 07 : 34:06

One other thing I’m going to add to the straps for those of you listening and some of you are going to think, why would I need that even in a car? But, Bill, they come in so handy at times, and that is just in these. You don’t have to spend a lot of money. I ordered a few of these for our trucks even this morning on Amazon. You can buy a… I believe it’s an eight-pack on Amazon for $25, and that’s just the inch-and-a-quarter ratchet straps, which they come in handy for. No, you’re not going to tow your car out of a ditch. But, Bill, there’s other times where you just might need to secure something, or you do have to spend the night, and you’ve got a tarp, and now you’ve got the ability with the ratchet straps to make yourself a little shelter and do some other things that you wouldn’t otherwise be able to do. They just come in really handy and take up very little space.

SPEAKER 11 : 34:49

Yeah, remember the multifunction? You know, I can use this. I mean, there’s been many times where you run up to the store and you’re like, oh, if I had a strap, I could strap this down. Maybe the box doesn’t quite fit in your trunk quite well, and you’ve got to leave your trunk open, whatever, you know. And here’s the other thing, too, John. You know, yeah, you might not ever use a tow strap, but you know what? You might be the good Samaritan, and you might see somebody stuck in a parking lot, and you You might, I mean, we had that happen at church one year where we had somebody stuck and everybody’s out there trying to push the person out. And I’m like, hang on, guys, I got a rope. I got a rope right here in my truck. And we hooked that on and pulled her right out, you know, so I didn’t use that for myself, but I used that for somebody else.

SPEAKER 07 : 35:33

I think, Bill, you’ll find yourself, and for me anyways, you typically use that to pull other people out far more than you do yourself. Yeah.

SPEAKER 11 : 35:41

Yeah, or just allowing them to use your tool. Maybe somebody else is doing the pulling. It’s not your car that’s pulling, but there’s a truck there or whatever, and they pull out the ratchet strap and it snaps, and they’re like, oh, crud. In fact, that was I’ve been in that situation, too, where somebody’s tried to pull somebody out with a ratchet strap, and they’re like, yeah, the ratchet strap broke. Of course it did.

SPEAKER 07 : 36:01

It’s only rated for a few hundred pounds, not thousands of pounds.

SPEAKER 03 : 36:05

No, that’s a good one.

SPEAKER 07 : 36:06

I like the whole strap thing. The biggest thing there, Bill, is that just continues to keep you on your way. Now, I’m going to really quick add this in, because a lot of people go to the high country, and we’ll get into tires and some of that stuff here momentarily as well, but for For those of you that are listening, maybe you’re new to our area, maybe you’re big skiers. I met some folks the other day, Bill, where they’re new to the area, but they’re big skiers, and they moved out here from Florida, and that’s all fine and dandy. But this isn’t Florida. And what we do even on our highways in winter, if you’re going up skiing and they’ve shut the road down or something along those lines, you always hear those stories of somebody trying to go around or they take the back road or whatever the case may be, and they think they can get there that way. And they end up being far more stuck than if they would have just sat and waited out. They may even have to wait overnight on the freeway. But the thing about being collectively there with everybody else on the freeway is you’re collectively there with everybody else.

SPEAKER 11 : 37:04

Yeah, help is going to come more to that group of people than you being isolated off in a red road or something that nobody knows where you are. Correct. So stick together.

SPEAKER 07 : 37:14

It’s sort of like that old, you know, Bill, when you’re lost in the wilderness, best thing to do is sit down and wait for somebody to come to you because continuing to walk just makes it worse. That’s sort of that similar situation in regard to what we just talked about with the car.

SPEAKER 11 : 37:29

Yeah, you’re lost and you get more lost.

SPEAKER 07 : 37:31

Exactly. And again, we hear these stories every single winter, Bill, whether it’s in Colorado or other places where somebody decided, hey, I’ll go off on my own. I’ll find a shortcut. I’ll still make it where I need to go. And they end up in the middle of nowhere. And in some cases, it ends very badly.

SPEAKER 11 : 37:47

Yeah, yeah, right. Going back to the ratchet straps, John, here’s another consideration, right? If you buy the bright orange ones, well, guess what? I can use that for signaling, too, if I need to. So, again, I’m using that one device for multiple things. You know, maybe I’m tying that, you know, strap to the radio antenna or something. I mean, when we had the the big bomb cyclone that hit out here in Elizabeth a couple of years back, you know, cars were buried and the only thing sticking up was their antenna. Good point. Little, little flag up on there.

SPEAKER 07 : 38:18

great point. And again, those things are so cheap that even if you had to help others and you took a, again, a pack of those, an eight pack, I didn’t do the math on this, but an eight-pack is $25.50 or something. So, Bill, we’ve got those things down to where, you know, what are they, a couple bucks a piece at the end of the day? They’re not that much. And so, regardless, even if you have to take one of those and you’re cutting it up with your knife that you should always have with you, by the way, to do what you just talked about, one of those straps would identify multiple cars.

SPEAKER 11 : 38:48

Yep. Yeah. And you can leave a trail or you could do, even if you’re calling a tow truck or you’re calling emergency services, Hey, I’ve got, I’ve got an orange flag on my antenna. You know, it just, it just helps get them there faster and find exactly. And on that note, I sent you a link to those, those, um, led flares. you know, that you can, I don’t know if you had a chance to look at those.

SPEAKER 07 : 39:09

Oh, I did, yes. I actually carry those in my truck. When you sent me that, I’m like, yep, I have those. I know exactly what you’re talking about. That’s something I keep in my truck all the time.

SPEAKER 11 : 39:17

Yeah, those are good, you know, to have out so you can put that out. Even if you’re at night, no matter what season it is, you’ve got to change a tire. You know, on the side of the road, throw those things out because we’ve got so many distracted drivers now. Anything that we could try to do to get some type of attention drawn to us is better than nothing, you know.

SPEAKER 07 : 39:34

Yeah, because for those of you listening, what Bill’s talking about is these are small little round kind of puck devices that go together and you can place them all around the vehicle and you can set them to where it’s a… A steady light, a flashing light, all sorts of ways to actually attract attention to you. And not that flares aren’t bad, but the problem with flares, Bill, is if they get a little wet or soggy and they may light, they may not. These, you flick a switch and off you go.

SPEAKER 11 : 40:01

Yeah, and maybe you have both, right? Redundancy. You have a couple flares in there, and you have a bag of these. I mean, again, the flares aren’t going to take up much space at all.

SPEAKER 07 : 40:09

And, again, one thing else I was going to say, Bill, thanks for the reminder, because you just reminded me of this, talking about space. For those of you that have cars or even SUVs, and you think, man, I just don’t have this much space, guys. Actually, you have more space for some of this stuff than what you think. Lift up, for example, most of you with SUVs have an area. It’s not a trunk because it’s in the back of your storage area, but you’ve got a platform that you raise up, and that’s where the tire is. And in most cases, there is a lot of room in that cavity where you could put some of the things we’re even talking about around the spare tire. Flares, whether they’re the LEDs or regular flares, the ratchet straps, a blanket. Bill, you could put half a dozen items in that particular area and still get the lid shut with no problem.

SPEAKER 11 : 40:53

Yeah, actually, I have a Chevy Bolt, which is a tiny car, and it has two compartments in the back underneath, and I forget about them all the time. I’m like, oh, yeah, there’s a huge compartment underneath this rug there. You know, my Tacoma, I actually don’t have much room in my Tacoma.

SPEAKER 07 : 41:12

No, they’re tight. It’s tight on space. Four-door midsize trucks, which that is. And I drove a Colorado for years and years. And, Bill, it wasn’t any different. It was really tight in trying to configure enough stuff. So what I ended up doing is, you know, you have the old, you know, milk crate that you bungee cord into the back or bolt down or do whatever you want to. And a lot of stuff went inside of that because you didn’t have enough room in the cab.

SPEAKER 11 : 41:35

Right, you just throw it in the back. And most people now either have a Rhino lid or a topper or something that a lot of that stuff is good anyway back there. It’s not getting wet and stuff. I lined my Tacoma with MOLLE panels in the back. and I have a gas can, and I have a water jug, and I have my shovel and all that stuff attached to the side, if you will, the bed on the molly. You know, because I still, the reason I have a truck is because I want to haul stuff, right? I mean, I go up and buy boards or whatever, and, you know, putting a whole shell on there kind of takes that away, John. You kind of lose a little bit of your hauling capacity, if you will. You do. So, you know, it’s a pro and a con there with that.

SPEAKER 07 : 42:16

Okay, one thing, and we should have mentioned this to start with, guys, but got to make sure you’ve got light. So you need a flashlight for sure, if not a couple. I usually have a couple in my vehicles outside of what you even already have on your phone, but having a good flashlight. And I usually buy the ones now that are all USB chargeable because if you’ve got power in the car, you can get power to the flashlight pretty easily. So that one’s kind of cut and dried. And then don’t forget, I know we talk about this a lot, but inside of the vehicle, something to start a fire with. And for those of you listening now, some of you that are really handy and have access to even the car battery and so on, you know what? You could have something as simple as just a roll of steel wool that you go out underneath the hood and you touch that from one post to the other. Voila, you’ve got fire. Okay, that’s great. As long as the battery’s got juice, you could do that. But, Bill, something where you can start a fire if need be.

SPEAKER 11 : 43:06

Yeah, I always, I mean, I have a lighter with me in my pocket, and it’s interesting because whenever I pull that out, people are like, oh, I didn’t know you smoked. Yeah, I don’t. I’ve never have, never tried it, never did anything. But I use that stinking lighter a lot. I usually use it to get threads on my clothes or to seal off a piece of rope that I’ve cut or whatever. I can’t believe, John, how many times I actually use that.

SPEAKER 07 : 43:31

And as you know, Bill, cars don’t have lighters anymore.

SPEAKER 11 : 43:35

Yeah, they don’t. I remember, shoot, every car used to have that.

SPEAKER 07 : 43:37

They used to.

SPEAKER 11 : 43:39

Push that button in there. You know, John, they make electronic lighters now.

SPEAKER 07 : 43:43

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER 11 : 43:43

My daughter had one at my grandson’s birthday party, and it’s USB chargeable, and she lit the candles with this thing. I carry one with me.

SPEAKER 07 : 43:51

Yeah, I carry one in my briefcase with my laptop and stuff. It’s so small and easy, Bill, that I carry that with me all the time. That one’s a piece of cake.

SPEAKER 11 : 44:00

Yeah, I need to get one of those and play with it.

SPEAKER 07 : 44:01

And they’re not expensive. For those of you listening, that’s a device you can buy for, I don’t know, $10, $12. They’re just not much money at all, Bill. They’re easy. Yeah, that’s nice.

SPEAKER 11 : 44:10

So, yeah, I would get a couple of those. And, you know, you throw a couple of tea candles in there. Oh, candles are a great idea.

SPEAKER 07 : 44:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER 11 : 44:19

If you threw that on your dashboard, I mean, that’s not going to create a lot of heat, but, you know.

SPEAKER 07 : 44:23

Oh, great idea.

SPEAKER 11 : 44:23

It’s a little something if you need to.

SPEAKER 07 : 44:25

I did a test one time here on air, been a while ago, where we actually took the, it has to be not water-based, but you can take oil-based tuna, throw that in your car, have a little bit of string with you in a match, of course, and literally, Bill, you can take and poke just a teeny hole, take your pocket knife, you know, poke a teeny hole in the top of that tuna can, thread that string down in there, light it, and that thing will burn forever.

SPEAKER 11 : 44:48

hours and then when you’re done you got something to eat yeah yeah that works well too i mean that i was when i was texting you my my list of stuff you know i kind of have this debate in my mind about water this time of year because you know they freeze and then if it’s a full container you know it blows up the container and you know so it’s like i don’t tend to carry too much water in my car and the In the winter, I do in the summer, but in the winter, I tend to pull it out just because what good is a block of ice going to do to me? It’s not.

SPEAKER 07 : 45:20

I got really quick. I got Eric on where to store stuff. Eric, go ahead, man. We got some time. Go ahead.

SPEAKER 08 : 45:26

Yeah, I was listening. Something like in my Toyota Highlander and I think one of my other cars, When you open the rear hatch, you’ve got those little plastic panels for when you go to change light bulbs.

SPEAKER 07 : 45:40

Oh, good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great.

SPEAKER 08 : 45:42

Those cavities that are in there in the fenders. Yeah, I’m able to get a couple of small packages in there also.

SPEAKER 07 : 45:50

Great idea.

SPEAKER 08 : 45:51

And then, you know, you were talking about heating. I would be careful with, like, the tuna thing because you are producing carbon monoxide. Isopropyl alcohol burners do not produce the same carbon monoxide. It’s got to be isopropyl, not one of the other alcohols or other fuel types, oil types.

SPEAKER 07 : 46:15

Right, right. Yeah, and even the same thing with the candle. If you’re doing any of those, you’ve got to make sure you’re cracking a window, getting some oxygen in, of course. Absolutely, Eric.

SPEAKER 08 : 46:23

Yeah, and I was one of the people driving from… my work all the way out towards southeast of Calhoun. I’m going through the blizzard last spring. I texted you during it, John. Yeah, we had lots of communication going on while you were stuck there. Yeah, I was able to get so far, but then what I ran into was the snowdrift coming off of somebody’s truck. that had gone off road and it drifted downwind from the truck. And I was stuck in that, you know, until sometime in the morning and some volunteers were coming through and they pulled me out backwards and it pulled the, pulled the cover off my front bumper. I still need to repair that. But, um, you know, I had enough extra coats and other things and had enough fuel where periodically started up, re-warm up, and had spare flashlights, things like that. But I, because I’m moving houses, I pulled my main winter kit out. And so I did not have the extra, you know, the, what is it? They’re like a six foot long tubular reflective material sleeping bag. And I didn’t have, A couple of other things. And then I figured out, you know, I actually, I prefer to keep more tape in there because where the wind was infiltrating was coming through the speakers in the door.

SPEAKER 07 : 48:04

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure.

SPEAKER 08 : 48:06

Getting into the door panel and then blasting my feet through the speakers.

SPEAKER 07 : 48:11

Ah, good one. You got to put that down. Good one.

SPEAKER 08 : 48:13

Yep. Just little things like that that I found out in that storm. And then… You know, one of the things I generally keep in a kit are those, you know, they’re ice spikes, but they’re the type that you put onto your existing shoes.

SPEAKER 07 : 48:33

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER 08 : 48:34

Right.

SPEAKER 07 : 48:34

Right. Yep. Strap them on.

SPEAKER 08 : 48:36

Yep. Yep. Those weren’t there. What was I wearing? Cowboy boots. No traction whatsoever. So even when I went to get out of the car to make sure the tailpipe was clear, I had no traction. You know, whereas if I’d still had those in there, I could have gotten out on that.

SPEAKER 07 : 48:54

That’s a great point. Yeah, great point. No, those are good. No, Eric, I’m going to run to John. But, no, I appreciate that. We’re going to continue this conversation on the next week as well, so never fear. We’ll be back talking more about it because we’re close on time. But, John, I’ve got a few minutes. Go ahead. I’ve got two minutes.

SPEAKER 10 : 49:12

All right, John, first thing you said, you said flashlights many times. You can get a USB rechargeable headlamp, which is fantastic. Way better than a flashlight because now you have two free hands.

SPEAKER 05 : 49:23

True.

SPEAKER 10 : 49:24

So there’s a couple of different brands out there, but one of the places I found for stuff like that are outdoor stores because, you know, backpacking, we use a headlamp, so we have two free hands.

SPEAKER 07 : 49:36

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER 10 : 49:37

So if you go to, like, a Sierra trading post, Just for instance, I think they call themselves Sierra now. They have a lot of seconds that work great that you can throw in the car. USB rechargeable. The ones I have also, you can pull the battery pack out and put three AAAs in it.

SPEAKER 07 : 49:56

Got it.

SPEAKER 10 : 49:56

So that’s a good thing.

SPEAKER 07 : 49:57

Got it.

SPEAKER 10 : 49:58

The other thing with Bill, Bill, you gave your military experience away when you said you used your lighter to get the threads off your uniforms.

SPEAKER 07 : 50:07

Yeah, we learned that. Good one.

SPEAKER 03 : 50:10

Yep, we all learned that in dating.

SPEAKER 07 : 50:12

Yep, good one. Good one, John.

SPEAKER 03 : 50:14

Hey, John, thanks for the tip.

SPEAKER 07 : 50:16

No, I appreciate it, John. All right, we’ve got about a minute left. Bill, what do you want to add? We’ll continue this next week because there’s a lot more still to cover, but what else do you want to close with?

SPEAKER 11 : 50:25

I want to talk about the headlamp thing. It’s a great idea that John talked about, but one thing that, you know, in the self-defense context or even in the, you know, escape and evasion context of a headlamp, you know, I have both, okay, or you have a flashlight that, like the Olight Mini Warrior that I carry, if you’re wearing a ball cap or whatever, the clip can go onto the bill. because here’s the deal, even though I’m hands-free, wherever I look, I’m sending that light, right? And so, you know, if I’m trying to keep night vision or whatever, and I look at you, and I’ve got that headlamp, I just flashed you, you know, so I go back and forth on the headlamp versus the handheld, you know, and at the end of the day, if you have both, or you have a scenario to go either way, I like that option, but I don’t want to be exclusive one or the other. Plus, you know, if I got a you know, depending on what I got on my head, you know, that headlamp may or may not be applicable to go around my head or whatever. So I just, you know… Yeah, that’s a great point.

SPEAKER 07 : 51:25

Great point. All right, Bill, I’ll let you go. We’ll talk more next week. Thank you very much. And, again, you can find Bill on his website, prep2protectco.com. Our website, ready-radio, and a lot of the things, .com, I should say, and a lot of the things that we’ve talked about today are listed on our website as well. We keep adding to that as we go. We’ll be right back, though. Ready Radio, KLZ 560.

SPEAKER 02 : 51:46

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All right, closing out this hour of Ready Radio. One thing I want to add to the list, we’ll continue this on next week, but trash bags. That sounds really simplistic. And by the way, more than one. I would stick, and Eric had a great idea on where you could stick some of these sorts of things. You could put trash bags and stuff them in almost any type of cavity in the vehicle that you’ve got. And I would say have more than even one. Have three or four. They come in handy for all sorts of things from something to kneel on if you’re changing a tire. to putting over yourself if it’s really raining. Bill said an umbrella, but if you’re trying to change a tire, umbrellas get kind of cumbersome because you don’t have your hands free. Trash bags come in handy for all sorts of things along those lines. That’s something else that I would stick in the car. We’ll continue this on in week two, so if you’re listening to a replay, make sure you get the second part of this show as well and go to ready-radio.com for that. Again, Ready Radio, KLZ 560.

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