What if your home went up in flames—and you weren’t ready? On this gripping episode of Ready Radio, John Rush and Bill Anderson dive into the often-overlooked dangers of everyday life that could spark disaster. Could a pile of laundry, a gas can left in the sun, or even your child’s backpack start the next house fire? Are your fire extinguishers the wrong type—or worse, missing altogether? And what happens when you discover your insurance won’t cover the cost to rebuild? From spontaneous combustion and e-bike batteries to out-of-date electrical panels and policy cancellations over cracked pavement, nothing is
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This is Ready Radio, preparing you to be ready for anything.
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Now, here’s your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. And it’s that time, Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening. We appreciate it very much. If you’re listening to a replay of our program, thank you for listening to that as well, podcast as well. Thank you. Bill Anderson with me today. Bill, welcome. How are you? I’m doing well. How are you guys? Doing very, very well. And I said this earlier in the week, you know, we’re now over the halfway mark of the year, and I’m not trying to be old and talk about time that way, but man alive does it go fast anymore.
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Yeah, it’s kind of sad because I ain’t ready. I’m still waiting for summer to come, even though, man, I can’t believe how hot it is.
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Yeah, and as you know, pretty soon it’ll be back the other direction. And this does apply, Bill, a lot to what we talk about when it comes to being prepared. For those of you maybe just tuning in for the first time, this is a preparedness show where we talk about being prepared for all sorts of things. It’s not a quote-unquote prepper show. We do talk about a lot of prepping things from time to time, but I don’t want to label us as a prepper show. It’s a show whereby we want you to be ready for the what-ifs, of life, Bill, as we say. So anything that would come along, we want you to be ready for that, including even, you know, car trouble, changing a tire. I’m going to talk today about fire preparedness and things like that. So Bill, it really involves almost everything out there. And you being a pastor, the reality is, you know, we need to be prepared for all sorts of things in life, whether that be something physical, mental, spiritual, you know, you name it, we need to be prepared. And I’m afraid that there’s far too many people that literally, Bill, live their lives day to day, and kind of have this attitude of, you know, I’ll figure that out when it comes. Well, you know, maybe that works for them, that doesn’t work for me.
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Yeah, because you don’t know what is ahead of you, you know, especially in the, you know, the spiritual realm, the biblical, you know, you’re not guaranteed tomorrow, you know, tomorrow may never happen for you, whether it You know, if you believe in the rapture or, you know, you take your last breath, you could be sitting in a car and all of a sudden, you know, a train hits you or whatever. You know, whatever. No, you’re right. But you just never know. How many people have gone to bed and not woken up the next day? Unexplainable. You know, it’s like there’s no cause of death here. We just don’t know why. You know, your days are numbered, and you’ve only got so many of those days, and unfortunately… You don’t know when that is necessarily, when that day is. But that preparedness thing, that readiness thing, I kind of like to say, and I think I texted this to you, I don’t know. I text so many people, I kind of lose track of what I say to who. But it’s more of like a lifestyle design of how we live. It’s not in paranoia. It’s not in any of these things. It’s just the way we’ve designed our lives. to be less of a burden, not only on our own family, but on the government, on society, on our neighbors. you know, and be a contributing factor instead of a leech, if you will, where I’m just consuming.
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That’s right. Absolutely. Well, and the theme today, we’re going to talk about fire preparedness. And folks, this isn’t just, you know, fire preparedness if you live in the foothills and there’s trees around you and so on. You know, Bill, as we have seen, you know, happen literally to us here on the Front Range, you know, we can go to talk to the folks up in the Boulder County, you know, Louisville, you know, that whole Superior area and so on. And, you know, I’m sure those folks felt like This is never going to happen to us. Even if there is a wildfire, this is just all grass that’s around us. There’s no trees or anything. How in the world could this ever affect us? And then a thousand homes later, it definitely had an effect.
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Yeah, it could jump home to home. You don’t need all that natural stuff. That’s right. And lately, there’s been a lot of fires in the news. I mean, we can think of the Maui one, which you and I, we both go to that island quite a bit. It’s one of our favorite places. And it’s still, I don’t know how to even describe it, it’s still in a state of destitution.
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Well, and I predicted that because I saw the same thing in our – well, I had a fire, had a home that burned down in the Granby fire years ago, watched what happened up in the Boulder area predicting, and I drive through that periodically, and it’s probably even to this day a third to maybe a half rebuilt, and look at how many years that’s been. And, yeah, in Maui – You know, same deal. And anybody thinks that, you know, and California’s experiencing this right now, anybody thinks that stuff gets rebuilt in two to three years is crazy. It’s a decade before things get back to normal.
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Oh, at least. You know, and imagine on an island, too, where everything is imported. That’s right. You really don’t have a lot of your own resources. You know, I live in the upper part of the Black Forest here, and, you know, the Black Forest had a big fire a couple years back. And, you know, it’s interesting because if you’ve ever gone through Denver before, And you see there was a time where all of the buildings, residential and everything, was brick. And it was right after what they call the Denver fire. They mandated a building code. It’s like, okay, everything now has to be brick because, you know, everything just caught fire. And it just spread from house to house to house. And, you know, they didn’t have the… you know, the fire crews that they had now, but even if we have it now, you know, once that stuff’s going, you know, there’s only so much you can do.
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Yeah, and the other thing that’s affected us in Colorado, which, by the way, is the same thing that affected things in Maui, when you have a lack of land… and you start building things so close together that in bill you go to a lot of these subdivisions probably even more than i do and in some cases and i don’t think i’m exaggerating when i say this you know a tall man could almost stretch arm to arm between homes and even even if it’s not that close you could probably double that is about all and in some cases there’s literally that little distance between you know home to home and my point is when you build things that close together to your point a moment ago when something starts And then it just goes from home to home to home. And when you get 100-mile-an-hour winds like we had that was in Maui, also was in the Boulder area, when you get winds that way, honestly, Bill, you could be an acre apart and still have it affect one another. But the reality in Colorado is land is so scarce and things get built literally almost on top of one another. That does not help us in that situation.
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Yeah, it’s kind of like the flood. You know, the flood in Texas that happened, you know, it raised, what, 25 feet in like an hour or something like that. Yeah, it’s huge, huge. How fast, and the point I’m trying to make is how fast that happens. That’s right. You know, a fire is the same thing. That’s right. An hour later, it’s like a neighborhood was there, and now it’s gone. And interesting, you know, because I’ve driven through, you know, the last trip to Maui I went through, I kind of drove through a little bit. Yeah, same. You can only get so close. That’s right. Right. But it’s interesting to see how… In the middle of all this burnt is like one house, untouched. Right. And it’s just crazy how you see that, you know?
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And the same thing, you know, in people that say that, you know, please don’t go down that conspiracy path, any of you listening, because I’ve experienced lots of things fire-wise. My home up in Granby, literally it, and most of my neighbors around me burned to the ground. But yet there were a clump of aspen trees that were literally within about 30 feet from the home that were still there. And my neighbor, which was probably only 40 yards away, Bill, unscathed. So fire does strange things. Why it does what it does, I will have to ask the Lord someday when I meet him, Bill, because I don’t know why it does some of the things it does. It creates literally its own environment that… it lives inside of. So anybody that’s never been involved in any of that and seen it, honestly, Bill probably shouldn’t discuss things because until you’ve seen it firsthand with your own two eyes to know exactly how some of those things are, don’t go down a conspiracy path because you’re going to, you’re going to find yourself going down the wrong path.
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Well, and yeah, it’s, it’s, I’ve said this numerous times over the past few weeks. It’s like, we can, we can go down there and we can say, Oh, it was, It was lasers, you know, it was transformers, it was this. And, you know, it doesn’t matter. It happened.
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Right.
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And so we can’t control those things, right? That’s right. We can’t control if there’s lasers being shot from the sky or if there’s transformers that were intentionally blown up, just like we can’t control if a lightning strike happens. I mean, I’ve got several trees around my property. And it’s like, yep, that was hit, that was hit, because you could see the big scar going right down the middle of the tree, you know, with the lightning strike.
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Correct.
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And you kind of like, you look at it and you go, man, that was close to my house.
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Right.
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Wow.
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Well, so let’s get into some of this. For those of you listening, fire preparedness is something that isn’t just for people like Bill. that live on the edge of a forest or you know me who had a house up in the mountains uh and even now have a house that’s in more of the rural area this applies to everybody out there because some of the things we’re going to talk about today bill have to do even with some of the things that you would do inside of your own home and and i can’t tell you and i think i think most people would probably be surprised at this but bill there are lots of fires that happens simply by spontaneous combustion. Somebody’s out painting, they’ve got mineral spirits or lacquer thinner or something along those lines, and they leave these wet rags someplace that’s maybe even in a can, and then things start to kind of heat up in the garage, which they do, because when you shut things up, even at night, it will heat up. And before you know it, that has combusted. And, yes, that can happen. It’s happened many, many times over. And before you know it, your house is on fire. So, Bill, what we’re talking about literally could affect anyone. It’s why we’re going to talk about some of the things to be prepared for and really maybe how to avoid some of this.
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Yeah, you’re absolutely right. As an electrician, we own an electrical company, as you know, and I’ve gone to lots of house fires, and it’s in the kitchens, or the last one I went to, it was a battery from an e-bike that just caught on fire in the garage while they were charging. You know, and electric cars, everybody’s talking about how flammable those are, and those are in your garage, you know. That’s right. Storage of gas cans and, you know, like you said, linseed oil in the used rag, wadded up. And here’s another thing, too, compost piles.
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That’s right.
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You get that compost pile up to 177 degrees.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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It’s a spontaneous catch as well.
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Yeah.
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I mean, there’s a lot of things. I actually, we got lucky. We lived in Chicago at the time. This was many years ago. We actually went, Heidi and I went to go see David Copperfield, and Heidi’s mom was in town watching the kids. And, you know, we’re watching the show. We’re having a good time. You know, got to go backstage, got to meet him because, you know, I was a full-time magician for eight years. Right. So I, you know, kind of knew those circles there. And, you know, come home, and it was like, oh, my gosh, you know, they had a fire at our house. And it was something as simple as the water heater, which was in the same location – as our laundry room, and the pile of laundry somehow got kicked over, and it caught the pilot light. And luckily, nothing really big happened, but they had a fire, and they had to, you know, luckily the kids saw it, and Grandma was there and got it put out. But, you know, in that same house, ironically enough, Caitlin, she was a little tiny thing, but she came running in the house, and she was like, call 111. She didn’t even know the number.
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Didn’t know what it was, yeah.
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didn’t know what it was but pointed the neighbor and there was smoke coming out of their their roof and um and they had actually from heat from a bird’s nest uh the little whatever pergola or whatever they had i don’t know what it was actually caught on fire and she you know we called the fire department that came put it out and got her name in the paper and her picture and all kinds of fun stuff but yeah to your point you know it doesn’t have to always be about fire mitigation, cleaning up the pine needles, because I’m sure we’ll get to this, but I struggle with that. I really struggle with cleaning, and I’ll tell you why in a little bit later, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that. It means, hey, what do you have in your car? What do you have at your place of work? I mean, again, wherever you are, what happens when jumping like this.
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No. And some of what you just talked about, even, you know, even on the car end of thing. And what made me think about this today was I was doing some things around, you know, my shop last weekend and I was working on some stuff and I was filling up some, some of the old cars with fuel and one of them happened to spill a little bit out. And, you know, my wife, she’s like, well, let’s make sure that doesn’t catch on fire. And I’m like, Oh, never fear. I’ve been around this many, many times to know what to do and not do. And of course I’m charging the battery and, all at the same time. So, you know, your risk of spark goes way up when that’s happening. But, you know, again, I’ve been around it enough to know how to mitigate that pretty quickly. But my thought process was at that time is, okay, that’s something we probably should talk about because those sorts of things, even people, Bill, just working on, you know, lawnmowers or doing something around the house and they forget and they leave that gas can out in the sun and And before you know it, you know, that could become a problem. And I just in my mind, I’m thinking there are so many things fire related. Literally, we could do several shows on this to talk about how to keep yourself from having those things happen, because this is one thing I will tell you. Anytime you have a fire. Number one, nothing will ever be the same after. That’s the number one rule when it comes to fire. And I’ve got my own rules on cars. If your car catches on fire, add gas and let it burn to the ground, then call the fire department because you don’t want that car ever again anyway. So just let that thing burn, then call 911, unless there’s somebody in it, of course. But fire destroys so many things, Bill, that you typically don’t want what’s there back again anyways. On top of that, you know, fire can just happen and it spreads everywhere. And again, Bill, this is one of those things where I want people to avoid those things. And this is something I want to throw in here early on. And please, all of you listening, when it comes to not only your home but your vehicles, make sure you’re properly insured against fire. What I mean by that is do you have all your contents? Do you have your structure rebuilding insured? end of things, at a per square foot price that would allow you to rebuild the home. The reason why a lot of homes, Louisville, Superior, Hawaii, California, even though these things in some cases can be well over a million dollars, the majority of, Bill, are underinsured. And what happens is they find out after the fact, they realize, oh man, we don’t have enough to rebuild what we once had. We might be able to get our mortgage paid off, but that’s going to be about it. Then they’re forced to sell the lot off. They can’t rebuild. What they once thought was going to be their ultimate dream home is now gone because they didn’t insure it properly on the front side.
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Yeah, and with the rising prices and the cost of of materials and stuff like that, you know, what you thought was good enough 10 years ago may not be good enough now.
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Bill, what was good enough even four years ago may not be good enough now.
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Correct. Yeah. I mean, I mean, there’s one of the things that I’m hearing, you know, because of my, my trade and my industry, it’s like, Hey, copper’s about to go up to go up to 300% because the tariffs are going to hit or whatever. And I’m thinking, wow, you know, I mean, I remember when you could go buy a roll of Romex for like 30 bucks, you know, and, and then there was that time over COVID, it got up to 130 bucks. And it’s just like, I don’t know how, you know, you got jobs out there and of course you’ve got to put in your estimates. Hey, this is only good for so many days because I don’t know what’s going to happen. But people never read that. They never understand that. You know, I mean, we have people like well, you gave me an estimate a year ago, and they want me on that price. And I’m like, I can’t, especially on the HVAC side, because everything’s rolled over to the new refrigerant, and everything is now more expensive. And they’re like, well, you’re just trying to rip me off. And it’s like, no, I’m actually not. I’m actually just trying to cover my costs here. And so to your point, you have insurance. You think, hey, I have $100,000 today. Could have bought this house three times. You know, back when I bought it. Right. Well, today it’s not even going to put in the driveway.
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That’s right. And for everybody listening, and yes, this is a tip for today. And again, this might have to go a couple of weeks as we may not quite get to everything. But on the insurance side, this is where it’s really important. We’ve got a great sponsor, by the way, Paul Leuenberger. You hear me talk about him a lot. But to me, Bill, this is where you take somebody like a Paul. Don’t do this online. If you do it online, you’re most likely going to be underinsured unless you know every single term and exactly what you need to do for your personal insurance. Chances are you’re most likely going to be underinsured and or paying more money for what you’ve got because of any good agent. Bill can show you a how to make sure you do have enough coverage. But if it’s getting to where, hey, I want all this coverage, but it’s getting a little bit expensive. OK, let’s raise some deductibles. Let’s do a little self-insurance in some areas. Let’s do some things whereby you’re still fully covered. But, yeah, you might have to chip in a little bit at the end of the day on the deductible or that’s coming out of that total loss scenario. you know, value. So if you’ve got a million dollar loss and you’ve got that much insurance, but you’ve got a $50,000 deductible, okay, you’re only going to get 950. Well, 950 bill is still a lot better than if you have the place insured for 650.
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Right. Yeah. Because, you know, in, like I said, a couple of years from now, you know, that 950 might be what it takes to build that. Correct. Also too, there’s a lot of insurance companies right now that are dropping policies if you don’t meet their standards. For example, I just had to do a service change on Tuesday because they had an FPE panel. And they came through and they said, hey, your insurance company is no longer carrying you if you have a Zinsco or an FPE. These are old brand panels which are known. They lost their UL listings. They’re known for fire, melting, things of that nature. And so they’re like, hey, we’re cutting your insurance. And we deal with a lot of real estate agents. We do a lot of home inspection resolutions and things like that. And, and people start to, Oh, you know, pick and choose. And I’m like, Hey, just so you know, you’ve got this panel. Um, you try to go get homeowners insurance up. You buy this house. You may not be able to get it because a lot of these places now, even with some home warranty companies, and that’s a whole nother conversation, whether those are good or bad, they’ll say, Hey, let me have the inspection report. Sometimes they’ll send out their own inspectors and then they go out there and they’re like, Hey, yeah, we’re, We’re not going to insure you unless you fix this or replace this. We’ve got a couple from our church that are down in their farm down in Rye that have to move their trees and bushes 100 feet away from their house, otherwise they’re losing their insurance.
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Bill, I had something happen to me recently. I haven’t shared this on air, so for those of you listening, some of you will laugh at this. I have a commercial building up in Fort Collins and had to do insurance on a routine basis, and they didn’t. As you just said, everybody sends an inspector out to see what things look like, this, that, and the other. And this happened to be a situation where I was changing companies because of, you know, it’s what you do. You shop around, try to find the best deal you can, still make sure everything’s insured properly. But if somebody else has got a better deal, that is one area, Bill, where when it comes to insurance companies themselves, no, I have no loyalty. I am going to go with somebody that’s got a good rating but gives me the best price because, in my opinion, they all basically use the same independent adjusters and so on when it’s all said and done. And in my opinion— As far as the companies themselves go, this is where you need a good broker to help you shop. That, to me, is more of what matters than the company itself. But anyways, that’s a whole other thing I could probably get into at some later date. But point being, Spectre comes out, looks at this commercial building, and it had a situation in the parking lot where there was about a half-inch crack that ran across the parking lot that they considered illegal. a trip hazard. And if I didn’t get up there and get that crack filled and taken care of, they were not going to, you know, continue that policy, they were going to cancel the policy over something that small, that insignificant.
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Yeah, and we have that mutual friend, Dennis, you and I have a mutual friend where his insurance company is now asking him, hey, you have to go get an inspection on your roof every six months. You have to pay for it, and you have to send it to us. Yep. And it’s like, well, what if I don’t do that?
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Well, we’re going to drop you. They’ll drop you. So, again, for all of you listening, we are not, you know, Bill and I are not talking out of turn here. We’re not trying to scare anybody either. But my point is, especially when it comes to fire, because I’ve experienced this firsthand myself, make sure you’re properly insured. I had a texter a moment ago, too, Bill, that brought up a great point. His question was, why do so many agents, They kind of come to the table with this approach. Well, you know, we kind of figure it’s going to take X to rebuild your home, meaning, you know, it might be a little bit more than that, but this is what we figure it’s going to take to rebuild the home. Rather than getting a real analysis of this is what it’s going to take to build it, and this texture’s question is, you know, why do they do that? Well, I know why, because the more coverage you have, the higher the price is. and that particular agent might feel that, listen, you could probably go shop this somewhere else, and if they aren’t as honest with you as I am, you’re going to be paying less insurance costs with them, and you’re liable to jump ship. So I think a lot of them will, on purpose, Bill, sort of slide in with a little bit of underinsurance, making sure your mortgage is all handled, of course, but outside of that, they’re not super concerned because they want to make sure that they’re able to compete with the next agent, and at the end of the day, not doing you a good service in doing that.
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Yeah, because everybody’s in the same boat, right? We only got so much money that goes around. And I deal with it in my electrical and HVAC and even the gun stuff that I do. The first question is like, hey, we’re looking for the cheapest person. And I’m like, well, I’m not the one for you. Because if you’re looking for price versus quality or what you’re going to get, we’re probably not a good fit for each other. Because, hey, I get it. You go to the the grocery store, and I call it the organic milk. You know, hey, I can buy a jug of milk. And I’m just throwing prices out there. Let’s just say they’re not exact prices. But I can buy a jug of milk for $2 or I can buy this organic milk for $5. Hey, I only got so much. I don’t understand what the benefit of the organic milk is. So I’m just going to pay $2 for milk, you know. But then the one person who’s like, I understand. I want that. I’m willing to pay that. It’s okay. They’ll pay the $5 for it. And so, you know, they’re in the same boat. You know, I only got so much money and, you know, I’m going to be like, hey, I need to go with this person because this person is, you know, cheaper, not understanding that when you hire, and I don’t want to step on any toes because it’s a very big pet peeve of mine, but when I hire that handyman to do electrical work, and he doesn’t know what he’s doing, and now I’ve got to come out there, you’re actually probably paying three times the amount because you paid him, now you’ve got to pay me, and you’ve got to pay me to figure out what he did, and then you’ve got to pay me to do it right. That’s right. Where you could have actually just paid me to begin with. Yeah, I was a little bit more up front.
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Yep, yep.
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But it’s one and done.
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That’s right. No, same thing happens in every trade bill along those lines, automotive and so on. All right. Well, let’s take a quick break. We’re going to come back. We’ll keep talking about fire preparedness. I’ll get into some of the things to keep you safe, by the way. That’s the biggest thing we want to talk about today. First things first, make sure you’re insured properly. If you’re not renewing your policy every single year, I highly recommend that you do that. Do not let a year go by where you’re not doing that. It’s super important with all the things that we have talked about. We’ll be back, ready-radio.com. Those of you that want to find Bill, by the way, online, it’s prep, the number two, prep2protectco.com, prep2protectco.com. We’ll be right back, Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Bill Anderson, talking about fire preparedness. And number one on our list, or my list, I should say, Bill, is making sure you’re insured properly. I cannot stress that enough. And folks, that trickles down even into your vehicles, the vehicles that you own, and even some of the things that you have. And again, that’s something where an insurance agent can help you. And one thing I would tell you also in regards to insurance with your agent is be honest. Bill, there is no sense in trying to, you know, hide things or, you know, I don’t want to insure this or, you know, and if you want to leave things out, you know, that’s all fine and dandy. Just remember, if there’s a total loss, those items will not be included in your claim. And and an insurance agent will not be able to help you in that case, Bill. So if you leave certain things out on purpose, all of a sudden there’s a total loss, and then you go back to the agent and say, oh, could you add a few of these things back in? Yeah, no, that ain’t going to happen.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, if you’re not willing to be without it, then you better claim it. You better claim it. And I had another thought, because my baby brother just had a house fire that completely burned down his house. They were cooking, and the dog jumped up and knocked over her kids’ school backpack, and it was just up in flames. We’re talking to my brother. He’s like, my gosh, it just happened so fast. It was all I could do to get the kids out. But one of the issues that they ran into during the rebuilding process, and I don’t know if this is normal procedure or what, but the insurance company wouldn’t release the money until they reached certain stages in the building process, which means they had to go get a loan because no construction company was going to start it without down payments and money up front. Correct. Correct. So that put them in a huge pinch.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. And that’s another thing. No, you bring up a great point, Bill, which, again, is where I think a lot of folks that have you know, total losses. You look at some of the fires that we have mentioned in areas that, you know, you and I are very familiar with some of them in our own back door, you know, backyard here in Colorado and everything you’re saying is absolutely, you know, spot on. In fact, in some cases, you know, you take even the cleanup, for example. So, you know, when I had my total loss up in Granby, And you had to get things cleaned up and there has to be checks written and so on to get all of that done. And yes, I was getting reimbursed by the insurance company. But keep in mind, you’ve got to write that check on the front side. And in some cases, and I’m not trying to be mean or rude to anybody, Bill, but we know that the About a third of Americans can’t write a $500 check, and I’m not exaggerating when I say that, and that number doesn’t get a whole lot better the higher up in percentage you go, meaning there’s a lot of folks out there that, in my case, I had to write a check at that time, I believe, Bill. I think initial cleanup phase was about $5,000, $5,000 to $7,000. Somewhere in the neighborhood, I’d have to go back and look, meaning I had to write that check on the front side, get that collected back from the insurance company, which they did, and I wasn’t out the money very long. But point being, you had to pay somehow on the front side, credit card check something, to be able to get that done. Otherwise, you’re not going to get it cleaned up.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And here’s the other thing that really was an aha moment for me as my brother went through this. They ran out of the house. The house was consumed. Guess what was in the house? Their wallet, their purse. It was gone. They couldn’t even drive their car away from the house because the keys were inside. They couldn’t go to work the next day because they didn’t have no car keys. They went down to, I think it was the Red Cross or something, to try to get some assistance. They wouldn’t give them assistance because they didn’t have an ID. They couldn’t go to the driver’s place to get an ID because they couldn’t prove who they were because everything got burnt in the fire. I mean, it’s like, you know, however— It’s all double whammies.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’ve already got a total loss, and you start adding all of that on top of it, and it just keeps piling up and piling up.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, great point, great point. Exactly.
SPEAKER 09 :
Within seconds, this all happened.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and by the way, here is another piece of advice on those things, and I just did this this week, not because of the show, but I was just rolling through things and I just thought about it. I have on my phone, now I realize, so I’ve got the Real ID thing that Colorado has, so there’s an app so you can actually do that on your phone where you’ve got your ID and stuff there. On top of that, I have put in not only my pictures, but in the note… taking capability that, you know, I use Apple, so there’s a note app for that. I think Android and others have similar things. So I have since, Bill, taken my wife, my passport driver’s licenses and put them into a single note, easy access. If something ever happened and I had to show somebody some form of ID, I’ve got it all right with me on my phone. That’s also stored in the cloud. If I could go to any computer anywhere, I could log into my my iCloud account and pull that down immediately if I had to, meaning if everything is gone, I still have that info.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. And even on the last cruise we went on, they even told us that. They said, don’t take your physical passport, don’t take your physical ID, take a picture of it. You can get back on the boat with that, or we could get back on the boat with our little pass. But in order to get through the security gate to get to the the the dock there the boarding area you had to show you know proof that you were a citizen and stuff like that and don’t take your original thing because if you get pit pocket or whatever your your hard copy’s gone and they told us all to take pictures of it yeah that might bring up a whole point of well what about security can somebody get my identity and whenever you know my wife’s all worried about this i said hey let me remind you those who want it already have it it’s on the it’s already on the dark web anyways yeah thank you bill i mean if
SPEAKER 07 :
No offense for all of that, for all of you listening. If you think for one second your info is not already out there, think again. There have been so many breaches of data across the country and around the world over the past decade. Your info is out there somewhere. Trust me, that is a non-issue, Bill. Right. Yeah. As far as I’m concerned. OK, so fire preparedness. We’ve got the insurance thing covered. And I know before I move on from that, one other thing to add to. Sorry, this is almost a whole show just on the insurance and being prepared. One other thing periodically. And none of us do this well enough, myself included. And I’m getting better at it. But periodically, once a month, once a quarter, whatever you feel you can do, go through your home with the video camera. It’s already built into your phone. and start videoing the things that you have so that if something were to ever happen and you have a total loss, you have a copy of the things that you had.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it’s pretty easy these days to do that, especially with the phone. You used to have to get out the camcorder and figure out where to store the tape and all that. Now with the cell phone, it’s just so easy. There’s really no excuse other than you know, just complacency or laziness or whatever, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, and again, just when you have time and you think about it, and some of you may even want to schedule these things on your calendar, but go through and do that because, again, it’s just another way of, and fortunately for me, at our place at Burndown and Granby, we had a lot of that, Bill, had a lot of pictures, video, and so on. It made that undertaking a little easier. It’s still a huge undertaking when there’s a total loss, getting all of your personal items ready but at least it made it a little bit easier when it was all said and done. Okay, so next thing, fire preparedness. And I mean, I know this is going to sound really elementary, Bill, but I cannot stress this enough. Do you have a fire extinguisher under your sink in the kitchen? Do you have one handy in the garage where if something were to happen, you can put a fire out? Those of you that have barns and shops, and Bill, you have outbuildings and so on. Do you have fire extinguishers in all of those places that are handy? And I’m preaching to the choir because I’ve got a couple of outbuildings that I actually need to go take a fire extinguisher and mount that to the wall of the outbuilding so that every outbuilding I have one. Question for you is, do you have that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and the other thing to remember, too, is depending on the location, you might have to have a different classification. Yes. There are certain fire extinguishers that are going to put out a grease fire, if you will, that a normal extinguisher won’t. In fact, if we throw water on a grease fire, we’re going to probably make it worse.
SPEAKER 07 :
By the way, same thing happens. when it comes to gasoline, because you know how gasoline is, water doesn’t always work well there either, and or an oil fire in your shop. So yeah, to your point, make sure you’ve got the right equipment, right extinguishers, I should say, in those situations.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and you know, even the small ones you carry in your car or whatever, I mean, we do a lot of brazing in our work, and so it’s always a good idea that to have one, especially when we were working. In fact, a lot of apartment buildings now, they have a flame-free policy, which causes you to do a lot of the pro-presses and stuff like that. But you still have to braze at a certain point. So you have to braze it off-site to get that little nipple on there so that you can pro-press it once you get up on the roof or whatever. But a lot of places are actually putting in these flame-free policies to even work there anymore. I mean, I can imagine somebody’s house on somebody’s basement and brazing in their their coil or whatever. And I accidentally catch the house on fire. It’s like, man, that was, uh, that was, that’s a bad day for everybody. Not to be tongue in cheek, but that’s, I don’t even – there’s no expression, I guess, to say how bad that is.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, there would be. And, again, for a lot of you, and I get a lot of people, you know, because like begets like, Bill, so there’s a lot of folks that listen to us that are handy. They do some things out in their own shop or their garage. They fix some things on their own. They might do some things even around the house, which, by the way, I am all for. If you’ve got those skills and you’ve got the ability to do some of those things, then, you know, my hat goes off to you. Go do those things. But – make sure that some of these things that we’re talking about, you are extremely safe. So if something were to happen, you’ve got the ability to take care of that sooner than later. So, you know, really, I guess what I’m saying is, you know, know your risks, know your threats, make sure that you’ve got the ability to deal with those accordingly, Bill. And depending upon, you know, where you live, whether you’re on the, you know, Edge of the mountain, whether you’ve got trees that are close by, have you mitigated some of those trees? Do you have, in some cases, trees touching your roof? If you do, you need to take care of those things. And on and on we go. And I think really, Bill, what we’re talking about is just take a visual check periodically of your property and what do you have there that could be an immediate threat. And let’s take care of those easy things first to make sure that those don’t become the thing that actually take it down when it’s all said and done.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because the busiest day is always tomorrow. I’ll get to that tomorrow. I’ll get to that tomorrow. So we’ve got to watch that. And it goes back to that original comment that I made earlier in the show. This is lifestyle design. Everybody has a different lifestyle, right? You don’t live the way I live. I don’t know how many pine trees on my little property there, and I’ve got to deal with that. Somebody in a house, well, that’s not my lifestyle. Okay, great. That’s why you design your lifestyle around whatever it may be to protect yourself against the what-ifs. And that’s really the whole mind shift, if you will. It’s just like, how do I design this in case something does happen? Because we have a saying that be really good at plan A, but be really, really good at plan B. Because I don’t know, John, I mean, I could plan and plan and plan, but plan A doesn’t always work well for me. I knock out a service change probably the fastest I’ve ever done. was done almost by noon, crazy. But that rarely happens because something goes wrong. Something breaks, something unexpected. You can’t see behind walls. You didn’t see that. You didn’t see that. Oh, you forgot that part. It’s just like you always got to be good at the response of what if something goes bad is what I’m getting at. So, hey, I’ve done this a thousand times. I’ve filled my lawnmower with gas a thousand times, whatever. I’ve stored my, you know, this is what I hear all the time, you know, especially when it comes to those old FPE and Cisco panels. Well, that thing’s worked since I’ve lived here. Yeah, but that doesn’t mean it will tomorrow, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. And by the way, I’m getting stories in from… Lots of people texting about different examples of things that they know got set on fire because of whatever. Some of it had to do with workmanship. Some of it had to do with different companies. Some of it had to do with some of the things you and I are discussing. So my point, Bill, is, and for all of you listening, you may think this is one of those things, oh, that’ll never happen to me. Yeah. Bill, I was one that said I highly doubted I’ll ever lose a home in a fire until it happened.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. You can’t say that because life is just too unpredictable. We can’t control. We do the best we can, and this goes back to the other thing that we say all the time. We can’t control what other people are going to do. We can’t control what the government’s going to do. We can’t control what Mother Nature’s going to do. But we can control our response to what if. And no, you can’t predict every single thing, but I tell you what, You know, if you take one step of preparedness, if you take one step of something, you’re better off than you were before you took no step.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and for some of you listening, I know some of this sounds simple. I may move into some of this with, you know, Fix It Radio tomorrow. But things that are very simple, Bill, and you had even mentioned the laundry room and where are some of the clothes and is your dryer vent clean and, you know, just some of the miscellaneous things that we tend to just sort of take for granted and and you don’t even think about, those are some of the things that can come back and bite you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep, that complacency, you know, get on that schedule. You know, at my house, I try to do that, air quote, try to do that, because life gets in the way. But, you know, the first of the month, I’m changing my water filters, I’m changing my furnace filters. Maybe I go, you know, check the batteries on, Smoke detectors, I’m being extreme, but whatever it is, get yourself in a pattern. It’s a pattern. Life’s about being in a pattern, right? a routine.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Develop a routine and, you know, and just stick with that.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s right. No, for all of you listening, please, whatever your method of doing these things is, and really quick, somebody mentioned that you can also put your driver’s license now in your Apple wallet. Those of you that have Apple phones, I forgot about that. So, yes, you can do that as well. Thank you for the reminder of that also. But have some strategies. I think the other thing, too, Bill, that, you know, I think you do it a lot when you have kids, and that is, okay, kids, if there’s a fire in this is what we’re going to do. This is what you need to do to get out. This is what you need to be checking. You know, the old, you know, back in the day, Bill, I don’t know if you did it with your kids, but we did, you know, you get on the floor, feel the door. If it’s super hot, then you need to go out the window. I mean, some of those basic things that you teach your kids. And I just wonder now anymore, Bill, do we still teach those things?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I don’t know. I really don’t know. I, I, My heart says no. I don’t think that stuff’s being taught because I don’t think a lot of the adults know it. Again, everybody is just so trusting in other people, contractors, builders, the fire department, the police department. They’ll take care of me. Somebody else will take care of me. I think as a society, we have definitely lost that self-sufficient attitude and really become so dependent. And whether you think that’s by design or not, I personally think it is. But if that’s the case, hey, we can’t exist without somebody telling us what to do. And to your point, I don’t think that that happens. Bedrooms, if they’re in second-story windows, do we have those ladders that throw out the windows? Yeah, it’s expensive. Oh, my gosh, I’ve priced those things out. It’s excessive. And chances are I’ll buy it and I’ll never use it. but it’s better to buy it and never use it than to need to use it and not have it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and the reality of that, Bill, is in a lot of cases, folks will have homes on upper stories, whether it’s this home, the next home, the home after. That’s one of those you buy at one time and just take it with you from home to home to home, and you’ll own that thing the rest of your life. So in that case, it really doesn’t matter how much it costs because, you know, amortize that out over your lifetime. It’s pretty cheap when it’s all said and done.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it is. And like I said, to live with that guilt of, man, I should have done that. I knew better. I heard it on Fix-It Radio or whatever. And I just never took the measure. That is probably worse to live with. than the fact of whatever the event is that happened.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that’s really the… I got another great question that just came in, by the way. Somebody says, you know, where do you store gas if you can’t, you know, A, not in the sunlight. So, number one, even if you don’t have the ability to keep things in a, you know, shed, garage, something along those lines, yeah, do not store gas outside. Outside, it will swell up. It will leak. It has the chance of, A, it’s losing – the fuel itself is evaporating, which you don’t want. You want to try to keep as much fuel as you can. You don’t want it evaporating for all sorts of reasons. Those fumes are what ignite, by the way. It’s not the gas that ignites. It’s the fume of the gas that actually ignites. I’ve literally seen over – you know, as a kid, I actually watched a – You’re going to laugh at this, Bill. But I watched an old mechanic that was smoking a cigarette say, you know, watch this. And there was an open thing of gasoline, you know, right next to him. And he literally takes a cigarette, throws it into the gasoline. It puts itself out. And he’s like, see, I’m just proving to you that it’s the fumes that light, not the gasoline itself. And as a kid, I’m just thinking, yeah, well, you’re still crazy. I’m never doing that. But anyways.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, reality is where do you store fuel? For those of you that don’t maybe have outbuildings and things like that, my feeling is if you have an outbuilding and you’ve got the ability to store gas there versus inside of your buildings, by all means, put that in the outbuilding. As long as it’s a building that stays fairly cool, you’ve got everything all sealed up and so on, you’re typically good that way. I’m not asking you to put it inside of an air-conditioned room because nobody has it. But yes, keep that out of the sun. If you’ve got an outbuilding, by all means, store it there. I would avoid keeping it in the garage at all costs. If you have to, you have to. I get it. Just make sure you’re keeping it in a really good, tight, sealed, non-vented You know, can and that’s another one of those where if you’ve got a really good can great if you don’t, again, it’s like the ladder bill, go buy a good can and throw your old crappy can out because one that is vented you don’t want you want one that’s going to keep everything sealed in and there are really good cans on the market. and there are really crappy cans on the market make sure you’re using a really good solid can keep it cool dry all of that and even if it’s in your own garage here’s another thing i would do keep it as close to your doors outs you know going outside and you know the overhead doors as you possibly can do not keep those things up against the house keep them as far away from the house as you possibly can if that’s your only choice and for those of you that that really don’t have any other place to store gas. Keep your gas storage, honestly, to a minimum. I know that kind of goes against our whole preparedness end of things bill that we talk about where you want to have some things around the house and so on. But in this case, given the fact that gasoline is so volatile, try to keep that gas storage to a minimum.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I like the idea of by the exterior door because every time your garage door, let’s say, goes up and down, you’re kind of exchanging that air. That’s right. That helps vent out. But they also make gas cabinets and metal cabinets. They do. If you need to go that far, you can put them into that. That’s right. I got a question for you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because I’ve always kind of wondered plastic versus metal.
SPEAKER 07 :
I like the plastic ones mainly because you have to buy a really good metal can that’s lined. Otherwise, we do build condensation even here in Colorado, and you’re never going to get that can completely full. And the metal cans can actually rust on the inside, therefore contaminating the fuel that you’re actually storing. So I’m a fan. Bill, and those of you listening, and I talk about this on Drive Radio, there is these plastic either round or – I like the square ones because they store better. But the five-gallon square plastic heavy-duty racing gas cans, they call them. And they’re not called cans. They’re jugs. But the racing jugs, they’ve got a really nice cap system. They’re completely sealed. I mean, guys that put these things on their racing rigs and they’re bouncing all around on the trailers and so on and they don’t leak. I’ve used them for years, you know, back when I was racing. And I still use those same jugs today, Bill, around my place because of what I just said.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, that sounds good, because I was kind of wondering that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I was thinking, I think metal sounds better in my mind. Nope, nope. Those big plastic jugs actually work better than anything else out there. They come with a nice big handle. They’re easy to maneuver around. You can use a funnel system where they’ve got a tube spout now as an accessory you can use to make filling things very easy. In my opinion, only way to go.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, those tube things where you’ve got to depress it and push it down. Oh, pain in the rear. I don’t know about you, but, man, those are… They’re awful.
SPEAKER 07 :
They’re awful. That’s an EPA thing. All right, guys, I’ve got to roll. We’ll continue this on. Bill, you’re not going to be with us next week, so we’ll see you the week after. But, man, enjoy whatever time off you’re taking, and I appreciate all you do for us.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, we’re taking five grandchildren to Florida.
SPEAKER 07 :
Have fun. Ultimately have fun. You’ll need a vacation from the vacation. Yes, I will. That’s a fact. Have fun, Bill. Appreciate you very much. Again, Bill’s website, it’s prep2protectco.com. You can also go to ready-radio.com and find everything there. We’ll be back here in just one moment, though, and finish the show out. Don’t go anywhere. This is Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, just to finish things out here for Ready Radio today, spent a lot of time talking about the insurance sides of things for fire preparedness, talked a little bit about just gasoline storage. By the way, this applies to diesel fuel as well. There’s this misconception that diesel fuel can’t ignite and won’t catch fire and so on, and nothing could be farther from the truth. It can be very flammable as well. Yes, it ignites differently, than gasoline does. But yes, it can also be very flammable. So same thing there. I would still store it away from the house just like I would as far as the gasoline end of it goes. And I think this even goes with some of the other flammables that you might have. And Bill’s idea of having a And they’re expensive, so I’m not saying you’ve got to run out and buy one of these tomorrow, but some of you that have your own little shops and stuff at home, having the fireproof cabinets that you put some of these things in is not at all a bad idea. But I like the idea of actually just keeping them in a separate location, keeping them out of your main garage and things like that. If you’ve got a storage shed or the like, I would try to do that versus having – uh you know the volatile flammables you know inside of your garage and those gas cans that i mentioned earlier jugs i hate to call them cans because they’re not they’re actually called gas jugs they’re five gallon you can buy them round or square and even like tractor supply and some of those types of places will sell these as well but i like the square ones just because they’re easier to stick next to one another and you don’t have the gaps you know around them in other words you can get more in a tighter place having the square jugs versus the round jugs and they make them in different colors so if you want to do like yellow for diesel and you know white for gas or however you want to do that that’s all that matters so do it however you want to but i like those particular jugs versus cans that’s it today for ready radio go to ready hyphen radio.com we’ll see you all next week this is klz 560.
SPEAKER 04 :
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