Republicans and the EV Debate: From Party of Intellect to Road of Reckless Reasoning? Are the Republicans still the party of intellect? John and Andy address this question by delving into the EV controversy and its evolution into a left-versus-right issue. John critiques an interview by someone on the right who claims to be an automotive expert. This conversation highlights how some Republicans have joined the road of reckless reasoning. The conversation quickly shifts from politics into a rapid-fire showdown on EV myths. What’s the real cost to charge at home, and why do owners say they barely touch
00:26:01 Final Thoughts on EVs and Future of Subsidies
SPEAKER 02 :
Do you recognize the Republican Party now versus 20 years ago? No, it’s way different. Yeah. It’s way different.
SPEAKER 03 :
What happened?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, we’re going to talk about that throughout the show, throughout this next half hour or so, because that was something Andy and I even talked about last week. And so I’m going to throw it in the notes for Tuesday. It’s a really, really great question. And let me give you really quick one example before Andy and I come back. And this is not a bash. This is just simply educationally speaking. You know, we’ve got our morning host, Kim, and I love Kim Munson dearly. And she interviews a gal on there who is a quote unquote car expert. Laura is her name. And I like Laura to an extent, although my problem with Laura is she’s really not a car person. She’s kind of a car journalist, but she hasn’t grown up in the industry and been a real car person like I consider myself to be. Now, that’s an area where, yes, I consider myself an expert. Well, sure. When it comes to the car end of things, yeah. I’m an expert, probably as much of an expert as most people out there on any platform are when it comes to knowing the history of, you know, working on them throughout all of these years, running different businesses involved, still coaching in that world and so on. And, of course, having the radio show for the past, you know, 27 years or so, Andy, along those lines. And where I’m going with this is, and I love Laura, but she’s way off on the whole EV thing. She’s coming at it completely anti-EV because I get it. Government tried to shove those things down people’s throats. The left was heavy in that. And I understand politically speaking where she’s coming from.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really quick here. Let me jump in. But you don’t form your views off the emotional response to what government forced on you.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, you do not. You still have to look at it for what it is. Right. It’s a product. That’s what I’ve done. And that’s why I’ve owned one since 2020. And for example… One of the things that people like Laura will always bring up when it comes to owning an EV is having to wait to charge it and the cost of charging and so on. And again, because she’s not ever owned one, she doesn’t really grasp how that works. The majority of people, mainly, by the way, Tesla owners. You’ll see a lot of Tesla owners go to fast charge stations and charge up because I believe a lot of Tesla owners don’t have the ability at home to do so. They’re a different group of individuals, by the way, that bought cars. So you almost have to take them out as an outlier because Tesla owners, for the most part, are not typical car owners. And I mean that with utter sincerity. If you own one. Great. Love you. But typically Tesla owners are not typical car owners and buyers. They even bought the car differently than what you typically do when you go to buy a car. Okay. Because it’s all done online. So they’re their own breed. By and large, most people that own EVs. Never go to a charge station. They have one at home. They plug in when they get home. Right. They’ve got their charger even set if they’ve got time of use like I have. They even set their charger to where it charges when your rates for electricity are the cheapest they are. And at the end of the day, you’re not running around looking for any place to charge because it’s not necessary. You have plenty of range on what you’re doing. And if you charge every night, you start off with a full battery the next day. The reality is you’re never roaming around looking for charge stations, doing some of the things that, in this case, Laura would accuse people of doing that own EVs. Can I ask a quick question? Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you fully charge your battery every night, does that make it to where it wears down worse?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, the car itself. Great question. Good question, Andy. All the cars have the ability to set where you want that battery level to be charged to. In the case of the ones I run, I only go to 80%. Still gives you plenty of range. That 20% headroom means the battery life stays really long. Okay. Because you’re not charging it to the max every single time you charge. You’re setting it that 80% mark. All of the cars have the ability on their internal computers to tell the charging station itself, this is how far I want the battery charged once it gets here, stop. And they communicate, by the way, back and forth. The car communicates. It communicates with the charge station back and forth so it knows when it’s at 80%. The car will say, all right, I’m done. Stop charging. Even if it’s plugged in, I’m done. Stop charging. The particular charge unit that I use even tells me in an app with a notification I’m either charging or I’m done. And I know from looking where things are at. Point being. When you don’t own one and you’ve never been through the process that I’ve been through, while she is technically correct in the way she’s explaining things, it’s not real life in the way she’s explaining things. She’s really going off of what she’s been told and what she’s encountered from others and the talking points that our side typically has when it comes to EVs. All that stuff gets regurgitated over and over again. And the problem, Andy, is it’s not wholly accurate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, what I don’t understand is this, John, because, look, we have a lot of negative, and I have negative emotions about EVs because I was forced to pay for them.
SPEAKER 02 :
I do too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, with my tax dollars, I was forced to pay for other people’s product.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Just like I have utter disdain for public schools because it’s the same situation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And so I look at that, and I understand that emotion, but then my response to the emotion is very simple. Don’t make me pay for it. It’s not, I hate the product. Exactly. It’s not, you know, I don’t suddenly hate the whole concept of education. I don’t like public education that my tax dollars have to pay for, you know, when other people are going to use it to mold young minds in their political views.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and on top of that, the unions have become so strong that politically speaking, you and I are now paying in our tax dollars for kids to be brainwashed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why are my tax dollars going to something that’s union run?
SPEAKER 02 :
Right, and it’s against everything I believe in.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yep, absolutely, Andy. Okay. Fully agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
Anyway, to finish with the cars, my only problem with the cars is don’t make me pay for it, but take them off the market, hate them, come down on them, buy every conspiracy theory in the world about them. Oh, come on.
SPEAKER 02 :
It’s a product. Right. And my point is this. There’s a lot of well-meaning people on our side that buy into different things that are going on that are maybe a little bit true but aren’t totally true. And then, Andy, it just drives a lot of that negativity that then really at the end of the day, because anybody that owns one of these starts to realize, well, what these guys are talking about isn’t the way it works for me. My point is you lose credibility when you start going down those paths, which I don’t ever want to do. Right. So we’ll come back. We’ve got more to talk about. Andy and I do.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush. Rand, you are actually our first caller today. Go for it, Rand.
SPEAKER 04 :
My question is, I’ve refrained from buying an EV for these points that I’m going to ask you about.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
If you take the cost of the EV versus a comparable gas-powered car in terms of build quality, features, luxury features, you spend more on an EV to get a comparable gas car. Would you agree?
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s a tough one because when it comes to the EVs, they’ve made them in a lot of ways, Rand, a step above luxury-wise. Now, there’s exceptions to that like the Nissan Leafs and some of the lower-end EVs, which in that case, you can really compare apples to apples when it comes to price, so that one doesn’t count. But when you take… You know, some of the higher-end EVs, for example. No, the typical EV will have more luxury, more technology, by the way, inside of it than its gas engine counterpart will.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, but I’ve heard the build quality on Teslas is not up to par with…
SPEAKER 02 :
And that’s one brand where taking Tesla as is, I would agree with you, and I’ve said that many times as a car person. I think Tesla, they’ve gotten better over the years, but their fit, finish, and a lot of their quality, I talked about this this last Saturday on Drive Radio, their interior noise decibel level and so on, it is not as good as a lot of the other manufacturers are when it comes to ice engine vehicles and so on. It’s getting better, but take Tesla out of it, The other manufacturers that do EVs are doing a great job on the fit, finish, and quality of.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, John, really quick here. Let me intrude. You’re buying an EV. Which one do you get?
SPEAKER 02 :
Which one do I buy? That’s like asking what vehicle do you buy when it comes to even a gas or diesel-engined vehicle because there’s so many choices now. What are you using the car for?
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, medium income, driving around the metro area.
SPEAKER 02 :
If I was going to buy a straight EV, I would look at either a Chevy Equinox, which I own one of. It’s a fantastic car, great build, works fabulous, quiet inside. And frankly, and I said this yesterday on air, some of your Kia EVs, by the way, your entry-level, I really shouldn’t call them entry-levels, but your smaller SUV-type EVs on the Kia side, you can’t go wrong on. Go ahead, Rand.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Now, the other question is in terms of resale value, How do EVs depreciate in comparison to gas-powered vehicles?
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s a great question, and they’re taking a lot of hits on that because they will look like they’re depreciating much faster than a gas-engine car. The problem is when they do the depreciation on them, Rand, they are looking at a regular list price. Most people aren’t paying list price. They will be now because the tax credits are going away. But at one time, when you took the tax credits in Colorado, for example, at $11,500 off of the list price of the car, and then maybe that car depreciated another $5,000 to $8,000, they’re looking at that car as depreciating, you know, $20-some thousand dollars, when in reality it’s not because the people didn’t pay full price for the car. They bought the car much less than that. When you look at it on paper, minus the credits, they look like they’re depreciating much faster, when in reality, they’re probably comparable to an ICE engine vehicle. It’ll be interesting, though, in that world to see exactly how do they depreciate once people start paying full price for them and the tax credits go away.
SPEAKER 03 :
If people are going to get one, though, would you recommend get one now?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you’ve got until Monday, or sorry, Tuesday, to buy one with tax credits. At that point in time, everything runs out. So if you’re going to buy one, yeah, buy one then. And I will say this, Rand, I don’t think most people buying EVs are necessarily looking at the resale end of it. They’re looking at that car, probably buying it. And frankly, this is one of those examples of where a lease might make a lot of sense to people because then you just walk away from the car at the end, turn it in, and walk away to the next car if you want to. I’m not typically a leasing guy, but in this particular case with EVs, it might make more sense for certain individuals. But at the end of the day, that is a factor, Rand. But by the way, it’s a factor with all cars, including luxury cars. You go buy a high-end Audi, by the way, and you look at the depreciation on an Audi in a year or two, it’s as bad as anything else out there.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s worse.
SPEAKER 02 :
It’s worse. There you go. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
What is the cost, average cost, would you say, of the installation and the… equipment to put a charger in your garage?
SPEAKER 02 :
Great question. And that one comes down to you, your home, how it’s been wired, your existing infrastructure that you have now. In other words, your panel that you have. Can you add another 30 to 50 amp breaker? All of that comes into play. That’s a question that, frankly, no one out there, myself included, can give you a direct answer on because there’s a lot of depends in that answer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, but average price, would you say, just a rough average?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think most people will consider about $2,500 or so, you know, being average by the time you buy the charger and install it. But I’ve seen some of them ran that are $5,000. I’ve seen some that are $1,000. It just depends on what you have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, I doubt it. I’ve heard that tires wear out much more quickly on EVs.
SPEAKER 02 :
They do. They wear out faster because the weight of an EV is much heavier than that of its internal combustion engine counterpart. So because of that extra weight and the fact that it does regenerative braking, your tires will wear out faster on the EV. Now, with all that being said, you’re virtually, for the first 60,000 to 70,000 miles on that car, doing no other maintenance to speak of. You’re not doing any oil changes. You’re not going to do brakes at all because of the regenerative braking. You’re really not spending any money on maintenance, Rand, other than tires.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I’ve also heard that it’s
SPEAKER 02 :
costs more when you do need a repair on an ev it’s more costly than a gas powered car and that one again that’s another depends answer it really depends on what goes wrong uh battery life contrary to what a lot of folks on our side of the aisle will say doesn’t happen very often the batteries are good to 200 000 miles plus you can have depending upon the vehicle uh you know suspension issues down the road just like any other vehicle would have. I mean, they have ball joints and control arms and springs and shocks and so on, just like any other vehicle has. Replacing those, though, Rand, is no more expensive than any other vehicle that’s out there. Where it might get a little bit more expensive is if there is a real issue, the diagnosis of… might end up, and I say might, might end up being more than its gas counterpart, although, depending upon what happens on some of your gas engine vehicles, you’ve heard me talk about this on Drive Radio plenty of times, that can get expensive as well. It just depends on what the repair is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Of course, okay. Other factor, I’ve heard that it’s hard, if you’re in an accident in a Tesla, it’s extremely hard to get it repaired in a timely manner. as opposed to a Toyota or a Honda?
SPEAKER 02 :
Great question. No, that’s a good question as well. This one also comes down to the type of vehicle, whether it’s a Tesla, a Porsche, an Audi, a Buick, a Chevrolet, a Ford, a Toyota. Again, all this comes down to how new is the vehicle. How long has the parts suppliers been able to make up and actually find the actual parts that are going to be needed most? In other words, which vehicles are involved in the most accidents? Because, as you know, there’s actuaries for that, and the manufacturer will stock up parts according to what they see need for as far as the part demand is concerned. And by the way, Rand, what you’re talking about can happen on any new vehicle, not just a EV. In other words, how readily available are those parts that have been damaged? How quickly can the collision center get it in and back out? And off we go. A lot of it comes down to the parts availability. But that can happen on virtually any vehicle, not just an EV.
SPEAKER 04 :
But I heard it was a pretty big problem with Teslas in general.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think Teslas in general. Personally, me, and this is me, and I’m not trying to bash them by any means. I’m not trying to bash Tesla. I wouldn’t own one for a lot of the reasons. I wouldn’t own one just because of how loud the interior noise is and how rough riding they are, Rand.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So with all that in mind, would you suggest an EV or a hybrid car?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and this comes down to what do you do mostly with the vehicle? And what I mean by that is if you’re never going to leave our area and all you’re doing is driving to and from work and you’re never going to go anywhere outside of the city, which, by the way, that’s the majority of people. And a lot of people think, who in the world would ever do that? Most of you listening, by the way, rarely ran. Do people take road trips anymore? Andy’s an anomaly. He’ll go on a road trip a couple of times a year. I’m weird. I like them. I haven’t been on a road trip in a decade, Rand. I mean, if I’m going to any place, I’m getting on an airplane. I’m not driving anywhere because I drive enough already during the week, so I’m not driving anywhere. But everybody’s a little bit different, so it really comes down to, are you really going to go anywhere outside of the city with the vehicle? And if so, do you have a backup vehicle that you would take anyways? If that’s the case, then buy an EV because your cost of ownership on a per-mile basis will be cheaper than anything else out there, despite what all of our conservative right side of the fence will tell you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. The other question is, I’ve heard that with EVs, the mileage per charge goes way down if you have two passengers in the car, if you run the air conditioner or the heater.
SPEAKER 02 :
I haven’t seen that be an issue one way or the other. And, again, I’ve owned them since 2020. My cost to charge the vehicle up and run it, my wife, for example, in the Equinox, I don’t think ran that vehicle costs us $50 a month to run. There’s no way I could do that with gasoline.
SPEAKER 04 :
What kind of mileage are you putting on her?
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, she’ll run about 1,000 miles a month or so.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Just for example, so I traded off my 6.2 Chevy, which they’ve got some issues with, with some recalls and so on. So I traded that off not long ago, about six weeks ago, and I got the new Silverado EV Trail Boss. It’s the max range, so it’ll do up to 400 miles on a charge. And even with that large battery capacity, it’s the largest in the marketplace right now, Rand, that battery, if it’s completely empty and I had to charge it up, It would cost me $25 to charge it up. I couldn’t fill the old truck up for the same mileage range. Actually, it didn’t even have quite that much range, but I couldn’t have filled the old truck up for $25. Got it. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you recommend, in particular, any hybrid?
SPEAKER 02 :
If you’re going to buy a hybrid, go buy a Toyota.
SPEAKER 04 :
Toyota? What about the Hondas?
SPEAKER 02 :
Honda’s got a good hybrid as well, but the advantage Toyota has, they’ve been doing it the longest, period, of anybody. They just have the technology down like no one else has.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Well, you’ve answered a lot of my questions.
SPEAKER 02 :
And again, Rand, as you can tell from me, I look at it from the vehicle perspective and what does that do for you, not the political perspective, which so many people enter into, and I wish they didn’t.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. All right. Well, thank you for all your help.
SPEAKER 02 :
You’re very welcome, Rand. I appreciate it. A lot of great questions, by the way.
SPEAKER 01 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. You might play what I did with Rand there on Saturday for Drive Radio because he asked a ton of questions. Although, Andy, you had a couple of questions that you wanted to add to what Rand asked that we might as well go ahead and finish up on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, just minor stuff. I don’t have any major concerns about electric cars, never have. But one is we’re coming into winter. Okay, first of all, of course, they’re not going to run as far on a charge in the winter.
SPEAKER 02 :
Their capacity has cut back some, yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I don’t think that’s a big deal. Most people just use them around the urban area, so it’s not a big deal. But I’m just throwing that out. And secondly, what if you get caught in a snowstorm? And I mean really caught. I wouldn’t want to be caught in a place where you are going to have to spend hours using the heater on that charge, and then you still need that charge to get home. That, to me, would be a bit of a concern, just determining where would I go. In other words, in the middle of winter, I’m not taking that thing even very far up the mountains, probably.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s a great question. And again, what you’d want to do, of course, is have the vehicle charged up all the way, knowing that you’re full charge. And my wife runs to Breckenridge and back with ours in the wintertime, has never had an issue, one, whether you’re in traffic or not. The one thing to remember is when you’re in traffic and you’re just sitting there. you’re using very little power on all of the systems in the EV itself because you’re not moving. Just running the heater, for example, running some of those sorts of things, the lights, the wipers, and so on, it’s not using hardly any energy. In fact, all of those are being run off the 12-volt battery. that the EV batteries, the DC EV batteries, are being converted to energy to actually charge the 12-volt battery. So there’s very little consumption of the large DC battery that’s in the vehicle itself at that point. So there’s not, there’s… Very little draw, if you would, kilowatt-wise. Most of the cars, by the way, all the EVs will tell you. If you’re just sitting still, it’ll tell you exactly how much am I drawing. For example, in mine, when you’re running in the heat, so same thing, you’re in the heat, you’re running the AC, you’ve got all that going on. Most of the EVs I’ve driven will draw about one kilowatt an hour sitting there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s it. And keep in mind, most of the batteries are going to be 100 kilowatt total. So think about how long you could sit there if you had a decent charge. You wouldn’t want to leave empty. By the way, you’re not going to want to do that anyways. You’re going to want to leave with a full battery. If you do, the likelihood of you being stranded is pretty slim.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Pretty slim. But that’s a great question, Andy. And Charlie, did you have one more question along those lines, too? Did I get all that answered? Oh, the other thing Charlie said was how do they do in the snow themselves, which was a great question. So for those of you that are listening, this, again, comes down to what tires does it have on it? Did you buy a single motor, which is typically front-wheel drive, or did you buy a dual-motor EV, which means they’re all-wheel drive? I’ll tell you right now, with the right tires in the right mode setting, which each car has the snow mode setting, if you’ve got the right tires, the right mode setting, and the weight of that vehicle, you can go anywhere you want to.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah, it’s very heavy. It’s pushing down heavily on the tires.
SPEAKER 02 :
Correct. The heavier the vehicle, the better it’s going to do in the snow because you’ve got more pressure there to actually do that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and does it make a big difference to have that weight evenly distributed?
SPEAKER 02 :
Which it pretty much is because that battery is sitting underneath all the floorboards, meaning it’s going all the way across front to back. Okay. To your point, meaning you don’t, like a truck where you put sandbags in the back because even though it’s a heavier vehicle, the back end isn’t. And you’ll fish tail. No, you’re not doing that on an EV because that platform, to your point, is distributed out evenly front to back, meaning you’ve got distributed weight very well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and on top of that, you have very smooth power.
SPEAKER 02 :
Correct. Now, last but not least, I’m glad Andy just mentioned that. Because herky-jerky power, what does that do? That slips. That’s right. So Andy just mentioned something great, which I’m glad he did. The biggest, for me personally, the biggest reason in owning an EV is the performance side. Well, obviously. For those of you that have never driven one. It’s a rocket. Yeah, don’t knock it till you try it. Because the problem is, and Richard and I have even talked about this, my wife and I have even talked about this. When you drive an EV for any kind of length of time at all, and then you go get back in a regular gasoline-powered vehicle, it’s like, holy cow. Where’d all my power go? Because even pulling out into traffic is a completely different experience from a gasoline diesel powered engine than it is an EV, because that power is instantaneous. Even on some of the lower end EVs that don’t have, you know, they’re not a performance vehicle or anything along those lines. The zero to 40 time on any of those EVs. is like second to none. There’s very few vehicles, unless you’re in a really high-performance vehicle, you know, Corvette, Lamborghini, Ferrari, something like that, you’re typically, even your 0 to 40 time, Andy, won’t be as great as it is in some of those, you know, $25,000 EVs, and I’m not exaggerating when I say that. That’s how quick they actually are.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it’s instant transference of power.
SPEAKER 02 :
And, last but not least, at our elevation, everybody forgets this as well, at our elevation, you can take a performance car that makes, you know, 500 horsepower. Unless it’s supercharged or turbocharged and you’re adding air, a naturally aspirated engine, as you go up in elevation and there’s less air, performs more poorly because you don’t… An engine’s a big air pump. Less air, less fuel, less power. That doesn’t happen on an EV. The way an EV performs at sea level or at… 11,000 feet is exactly the same. They do not change from what’s at sea level to where we are right now, which all of you driving don’t realize. But if you took your existing vehicle and even drove to Kansas where you’re lower in elevation by probably 3,000 feet, you’ll notice a power difference even going to Kansas versus where we are. Of course. In Denver, and as you go up the hill, it even gets less and less and less powerful. That is the other advantage that an EV has is it is a flat line no matter what elevation you’re at as far as the power is concerned.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah. Why wouldn’t it be?
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, last but not least. My wife doesn’t use this feature, but I do. So does Richard. I love it. In fact, to me, it’s the best part about driving an EV. We call it one pedal driving, meaning when you let off the gas, the regenerative brake, let off the accelerator pedal, I should say. It’s not gas, but you let off the pedal. There’s regenerative braking, meaning that if you learn how to use the pedal correctly, you rarely, if ever, hit the brake pedal. You let the vehicle do its slowing down and speeding up. That’s the one advantage an electric car has is you rarely ever push on the brake pedal because if you drive correctly with the accelerator pedal, you never have to push the brake because the vehicle slows down automatically as you literally come all the way up to a stoplight, stop sign, whatever it happens to be. It is the easiest way you could ever drive, and it really spoils you because then when you get in a regular vehicle, you’re like, oh, crap, I’ve got to push the brake now. You don’t have to in an EV. And they literally slow down quickly enough that in some cases you’ll find yourself feathering the accelerator pedal just to keep things moving along because it will literally take you completely to a stop.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
So, again, for all of you listening, a lot of conservatives that hate them. Don’t hate it until you try one. Don’t knock it until you try it sort of a thing because for a lot of you that are out there listening, they probably fit the bill more than you actually think they would. We’ll play this again as we get into Drive Radio coming up this weekend as well. So if some of you want to replay that or listen to that again, we’ll actually do that. Might even take that little excerpt out and put it on the website all on its own because Rand and Andy both, you guys asked a lot of great questions that went into that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Five-second answer. Subsidies going away. Do you think they’ll lower the prices a little bit?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think they’re going to have to. Yeah, they’re going to have to. Okay. Yep, absolutely, Andy. I think they will. Or they’ll have some other incentives when it’s all said and done. So that’s it for hour number one. We’ll be back hour number two in a moment. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. This is John Rush from Rush to Reason and Drive Radio. Thank you so much for listening. Check out more of our podcasts at RushToReason.com or Drive-Radio.com.
Republicans and the EV Debate: From Party of Intellect to Road of Reckless Reasoning? Are the Republicans still the party of intellect? John and Andy address this question by delving into the EV controversy and its evolution into a left-versus-right issue. John critiques an interview by someone on the right who claims to be an automotive expert. This conversation highlights how some Republicans have joined the road of reckless reasoning. The conversation quickly shifts from politics into a rapid-fire showdown on EV myths. What’s the real cost to charge at home, and why do owners say they barely touch
