In this engaging episode, host Mike Gallagher navigates through an array of topics that touch upon the current state of the U.S. economy, political dynamics, and the reality of media narratives. With insightful contributions from Stephen Moore and other experts, the dialogue delves into why the media often overlooks significant economic achievements under the Trump administration. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of how tax cuts and trade deals have bolstered job creation and significantly boosted economic growth. The discussion also addresses how lower fuel prices and tariffs reshaping manufacturing are contributing to an optimistic economic outlook.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America’s culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you’ve been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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It makes me very happy when the mainstream media has to report on positive economic news because you know it has to kill them. They hate sharing good economic news because it messes up the Democrat narrative that the economy is tanking. Look at this headline from Axios today. Axios, they’re not a conservative publication. Thanksgiving is cheaper this year. According to the American Farm Bureau Federation and their annual survey, the average classic holiday feast for 10 will be about 5% cheaper than it was last year. Now, look, it’d be better if it was 50% cheaper. If you’re in Zoran Mamdani’s New York, it would be better to be just free. But… So Thanksgiving is going to be cheaper this year? What’s that? What, the jobs report came out and it vastly exceeded expectations? What’s that? You know, here’s what we have to be prepared for. They’re going to throw everything they can at the Trump agenda. Now there’s a report that the Bushes are coming back. There’s a report from the Daily Mail that the Bush family wants to regain its dynasty status in America. And as soon as Trump is out of office, the Bush family, led reportedly by George W. Bush, is going to try to reclaim the GOP. Take it away from MAGA. Try to release the stranglehold that MAGA has on the… Republican Party. I don’t even know if we want to spend two minutes on that. The future of the Republican Party is where we are now. Some would say, and somebody texted me, I mentioned it on the tease at the top of the hour about the reports that the Bush family might have a plan to take over the Republican Party. And somebody wrote, look, The future of the Republican Party is MAGA. It is Donald Trump. And then the texter said it’ll be Trump-ism without the edgy comments. You know, for a lot of people, quiet piggy, not their favorite moment as a Trump supporter. Many people say, look, he picks fights, he’s edgy, he’s unconventional. I mean, what’s the meeting with Zoran Mamdani today in the White House going to look like? Holy moly. I mean, this kid is going to walk in to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I’m sure he’s going to strut around and be all full of himself. And he’s going to have to tangle with Donald J. Trump. I wouldn’t want to tangle with the guy. I feel so bad for Marjorie Taylor Greene, who’s been supporting him. Now, you know, they’re at loggerheads. Elon Musk, Trump got into it. It’s going to be… It’s bumpy. It’s going to be rough. People are tense. People have got anxiety. And look, let’s be positive for a little bit, and we should be because we’ve got things to be positive about. Here’s Caroline Leavitt, the White House Press Secretary.
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The September jobs report showed the American economy remains strong, with 119,000 new jobs added, more than double expectations. These gains came after the summer passage of President Trump’s historic tax cuts and multiple big trade deals with countries around the world. In particular, construction jobs surged by 19,000 in September, the largest monthly gain in a year. Nearly all of this solid monthly job growth came from the private sector and went to Americans rather than foreign-born workers, the opposite of what we saw under the previous administration.
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Here’s the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, on Fox Business Network.
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I read about this pessimism and all these websites and internets and this and that and polls that I don’t believe for a minute, Howard. You’re on the forefront of this. Where is this? Why is there so much pessimism? What’s going on here, Howard?
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It’s just fake news. You’ve got so many factories being built. You know, I know people talk about when the factories come online, but the construction jobs alone, you can’t invest $3 trillion a year without driving our GDP off the charts. You’re going to see fours. You’re going to see fives. And you’re going to see 6% GDP growth under this president because the factories coming home, the tariffs are bringing them home. You have never seen construction the way you’re going to see it. And then when these factories come online, wow, are you going to see numbers nobody’s ever thought possible.
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And finally, here’s a conservative strategist, Tim Parrish, last night on CNN.
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But the fact of the matter is what my friend here said earlier about things that everyday Americans who you want to speak to care about. Richard, yes, Americans do care about the things that, and we should take those victory laps on the prices that have gone down, like eggs and fuel. Those are big expenses that Americans pay for it. Absolutely, we should take that victory lap. And we shouldn’t take a victory lap because, as I said earlier, that your president in 10 months, in 10 months today, actually, on the 20th, is working at this. And they’re being transparent with the American people and saying we inherited.
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When you tell everyone. Let me finish.
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been the let me finish queen all night. Now let me finish please. We should be celebrating that your president as an American citizen is working after inheriting the worst inflation. But of course they don’t want to hear that and they want to interrupt him and shut him down because he speaks the truth.
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And so we’ve got to be positive. We ought to be positive. And we’ve got to do it with facts and with truth. Let’s just understand. The people who oppose the Trump agenda are never going to give him credit for the economy. They’re never going to give any credit for the tariffs working or lower taxes. They don’t want any of it. They want higher taxes. They don’t care about affordability. Do you really think they care about affordability? If they cared about affordability, they wouldn’t have passed the Unaffordable Health Care Act. They don’t care about affordability. They care about power and control. And whatever you think of Trump and the opinions are a mile wide and 10 miles deep, he cares about the American people. And you either know it or you don’t. Let’s just remember the things that matter. I’ve got in my hand an invitation. Let me share with you what matters. Beautiful little invitation. Kindly join us for Joyce’s 100th birthday, Saturday, November 22nd, 2 to 4 p.m. I’ve been getting emails from a lady named Joyce for a while and always liked reading her emails. She writes in all caps, but she’s sharp as a tack, smart, insightful, loves the show, listens every day on her iPad. And she casually let it slip a while ago that tomorrow is going to be her 100th birthday. And I was talking to some friends, talked to Mark Davis and some others, my kids. Mark said, why don’t you go? Why don’t you go to the party? And I thought, of course. So I’m going. So after the show, I’m heading up to North Carolina. And I’m going to go to Joyce’s 100th birthday. The blessing of being able to sit down with a lady who’s been on this planet for 100 years, who’s listening to a talk show, emailing a talk show host, getting out her iPad to be a part of the show. Do you know what a blessing that is? And I can’t wait. And don’t worry, Joey’s going with me. Joey Hudson will be there. And we’re going to take videos and take pictures. And I’ll share it all with you on Monday’s show. That’s the kind of stuff that matters. Family. Longevity. Living a full, happy life. Taking care of one another. And I’m just so, so thankful for the opportunity. So that’ll be my Saturday. More on that on Monday.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America’s culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you’ve been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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It’s real important to listen to smart people over issues like affordability. We’re hearing affordability, affordability, affordability. And if you look around at the mainstream media, what a shock. All of a sudden we’re reading that the Trump base is turning on him because of affordability. Zoran Mamdani won in New York City because of affordability. I wanted to bring back a good friend of the show, an economist, an author, a great guy, a frequent lecturer to audiences. He was in the Trump administration. He was a Trump advisor during the 2016 campaign on economic policy. So this guy knows his stuff, the one and only Stephen Moore, who joins us. Steve, it’s great having you back, my friend. How have you been?
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Mike, I’m doing great. And you know what? I think the country’s doing great, too. So I’m not buying into this nonsense that everything’s become unaffordable, but we can get into that. But I want to think the economy overall is really on a good course right now.
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Well, look at yesterday comes the jobs report from September. Oh, boy, it defied expectations. It feels like, you know, a broken record where we keep hearing the media forced to admit that numbers and data are defying the experts’ expectations. But yet here’s Axios with the big piece. Oh, red alert, red alert. Republicans are seeing trouble everywhere they turn. And, you know, there’s a disconnect somewhere, Steve. I agree. On the one hand, I saw somebody poo-poo the idea of Trump’s plan to give everybody of a certain income $2,000 checks. And I think the sloughing that off came – it may have been you. Somebody said it and said – no, I think it was Larry – maybe it was Larry Kudlow. Said, oh, I don’t really love that idea. I thought, do you know what – That was you? You don’t think it’s a great idea? I mean, Steve, I hate to disagree with you, but as somebody who’s hearing from listeners and callers every day of my life for the last 40 years from all 50 states and beyond, do you know what a $2,000 check would mean to somebody who’s struggling right now?
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So, look, there’s a lot here, Mike. And let me just start with this, that there is no time in the history of America or history in the world where people have more affordability than they do today. You know, we are a richer country. Our median income has gone up by 40 percent in the last 30 years, adjusted for inflation. This year alone, Mike, We have some numbers coming out next week that show that the median family income since Trump has come into office is up almost twelve hundred dollars. So I don’t know where this whole kind of affordability issue came came from. And now it is true. There’s two areas where prices are very high. One is housing and one is health care. But 80. We just ran these numbers in preparation for this show. My eighty eight point five percent. 88.5% of the rise in prices that people are complaining about happened under what president? Joe Biden? Yes. Yes. This is just the residual effect of the highest inflation since Jimmy Carter was in office, and that was under Biden. So the average inflation rate, I’ll give you these numbers because they’re amazing. In Trump’s first term, the average inflation rate in his four years from 2017 through 2020 was about 2%. Then Biden comes in. Remember, the inflation rate went up to nine point one percent. And over the four years in office, the average inflation rate was a little over five percent. And here we are nine months into Trump’s second term. And the average inflation rate is two point eight percent. So my point is, if you’re angry about prices, you should be angry at two presidents. One is Joe Biden. And you know who the other one is? Tell us. Obama, because Obama is the one who gave us. Do you remember the Obamacare? I remember being on your show. We talked about Obamacare. That was 15 years ago. And I predicted on your show that the prices would go through the roof. And remember, they call it the Affordable Care Act. And now we’re playing two to three times more for health care. And Trump has been right about this, that he inherited this health care mess from from from Barack Obama. So my point is. that if you’re angry about these things, you really should be angry at Obama and Biden because they created the high prices across the board and especially in health care.
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I want to share more of my conversation with this great, great Stephen Moore, which we conducted a little bit earlier today in just a moment.
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Mike Gallagher.
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Continuing with my visit with Stephen Moore, this brilliant mind. I love kind of picking his brain as often as we can. I had a chance to talk to him earlier, and I wanted to be sure to share our conversation with you. Here’s part two. there still seems to be, um, a dynamic here. Maybe it’s just optics, Steve. Uh, I mean, I let’s, let’s, let’s focus in on this $2,000 check. I’ll anecdotally, I’ll tell you one of my, one of my sons, I’ve got four adult kids. Um, They’re on their own. They don’t rely on Dad. They’re all working and making their way in life and love them dearly. Can’t wait to be with them at Christmastime. He called me the other day and said, Dad, is it true? Is President Trump going to get everybody a $2,000 check? Wow, that’s going to be such a game changer for me. I could really use it. See, that’s the way people react to President Trump’s idea. Tell us why that does not have your blessing.
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Well, a couple of things. One is that the the to the Trump tax cut, which, as you know, Larry Kudlow and I and a couple of others helped to do the original version of that bill. We passed the big, beautiful bill back in July. And a lot of people come up to me and say, hey, I haven’t felt the effect of the Trump tax cut. You know why? Because it hasn’t taken effect yet. So next year, unless you already adjusted your withholding, and most Americans have not, the average American will get a $2,000 tax cut. It’s less money that will be taken out of their paycheck. And so you’re going to get a bigger paycheck next year, folks. Just hold on until January, and help is coming in that regard. So that’s the kind of tax cut we want. Now, here’s why I disapprove of the idea of giving everybody $2,000, because, you know, it would be a wonderful thing if we could just print money and give everybody money and make everything better, but that’s not going to work. If you do that, if you just pass… what i call helicopter money you just drop money out of helicopters but mike you go back to milton friedman and friedman used to tell us that the inflation is too many dollars chasing too few goods so if you’re going to give everybody two thousand dollars what’s going to happen to prices they’re going to rise i don’t think it’s a sensible policy i don’t like check writing by the government i i but look i’m a guy who thinks almost everything trump has done on the economy is great The deregulation is saving a trillion dollars in business costs. A lot of that is going to get passed on to consumers. The fact that his pro-energy policies. Why doesn’t anybody talk about gas prices? Remember, throughout most of my career, we always used gas prices as the gauge for what’s happening with inflation. I don’t hear the media talking about gas prices now, right? Because it’s $2.79 a gallon. It was $5 a gallon under Trump.
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And you know why? Because it’s Trump, and we know that. Exactly. When Trump gets annoyed and actually infuriated by places like ABC, there’s a reason for it. in a diabolical way. You’re so right, Steve. If this was a Democrat, look at gas prices, look at inflation, look at the interest rates are starting to come down. And yet, because it’s Trump, orange man bad, everything’s terrible. And look, we’re facing a crucial midterm election, Steve. I’m really, really worried if the polling Some of it that suggests that he’s, you know, declining. We lose the House and the Senate next year, we’re cooked.
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We’re cooked. Well, one thing that Trump has to do is really focus on the really positive things that have happened in the economy. So let me just give you a few. I mentioned the gas price. How about the fact for the last two quarters, the economy’s grown at 4 percent? Biden never came anywhere near 4 percent. How about the fact that he’s bringing hundreds and hundreds of billions? He says trillions. I think it’s probably closer to hundreds of billions of dollars of investment income in the United States. How about the fact that we have the best stock market in history? Most Americans do own stock either for retirement plans or 401k plans or union plans. So that’s been positive. The only country in the world that’s growing right now is the United States. We’re carrying the rest of the world on our shoulders. I mean, Japan isn’t growing. Europe isn’t growing. China is in a recession. So as an economist, I’m here to tell you, I think 2026 is going to be a blockbuster year. And I think by the time we, those midterms, and I share your concern, absolutely, because Trump, they’re going to try to impeach Trump if the Democrats take Congress. You know they will. They’ve tried it four times already. But I think things are going to be so much better by, and let me just, sorry to keep ranting on, but When Reagan was president, people forget, because that was the start of my career. That’s how old I am. You know, the first year, 14 months of Reagan’s term were terrible. He had inherited a crisis from Jimmy Carter. The economy is rotten. It took him 14 months to turn the economy around. And what he told people in those midterm elections, stay the course. This is going to get better. And then, of course, we had the big boom in the economy. He only won 49 states when he ran for reelection. Now, Trump can’t run for reelection. I don’t… Maybe. Maybe not. We will see. But look, this is a president. I wrote the book, The Trump Economic Miracle, and I think we’re seeing a miracle develop right before our very eyes.
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to believe that Stephen Moore is a national treasure and we lean into your words very carefully, Steve. I know you have another appointment coming up. I want to thank you for spending a little bit of time with us today because, look, I think you’re absolutely right. And let’s face it, midterm election, that’s November. That’s the end of 2026. If we’ve got a good story going in 2026, I like our chances very, very much.
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Well, Mike, just one last thing on the way out. I want to make sure that you and all of your listeners are getting our Unleash Prosperity hotline that comes out every morning. I hope you’re getting it, Mike. If you’re not, I’ll get your email from your producer. But, you know, we were talking a lot about inflation. You know how much this costs? It’s zero. It’s free, folks. So just go to UnleashProsperity.com, get our hotline. You want to be the smartest person in the room. And by the way, Mike, you can read it in five minutes every morning. So I hope everybody signs up for that.
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I will make it daily reading UnleashedProsperity.com.
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Everybody ought to do that. Say it again. By the way, Mike, you need to get it because you’re doing a radio show every day, and this will give you five or six items right out of the gate on what’s happening with American economy and politics. So I need to get that to you right away.
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No, I need it. I need it badly because it’s a great show.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis. Morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here’s today’s Eminem experience.
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I got to ask you about two of our favorite people. And I think, would it be fair to say that, like me, you just love Mark Levin and Megyn Kelly? Megyn Kelly, not so much lately.
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But yes, over the past… Megyn Kelly, not so much lately?
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I’ve enjoyed…
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I have enjoyed Megyn Kelly graduating from Trump skeptical to Trump appreciative. You and I have had a number of occasions. But Megyn Kelly’s if you’re looking for Megyn Kelly’s head, you can find it buried in Tucker Carlson’s butt for about the last couple of weeks. It has been a horrible look for her and deservedly so.
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So you believe that defending Tucker is a horrible look for Megyn Kelly?
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I believe that attacking people who have criticized Tucker, as she has repeatedly done with vulgar and senseless attacks on Mark Levin and others, is a bad look for her.
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Well, you know, you’re certainly with Mark on this, and I don’t like being disagreeable with either one of them. Last night on X, before I went to bed, I noticed a back and forth they had. Megan Kelly pushed back against Mark calling her an anti-Semite and a Nazi. which he did, you know? And so, but then he denied it, and he said, he wrote back, now, now, Megan, I never called you a Nazi. I never called you an anti-Semite, which you accused me of saying as well. You’re awfully defensive. Serial lying is not a great trait, Megan, but you are a crackpot. Well, she writes back to him with the clip from his opening remarks from his show on September 23rd, and the audio clip Absolutely. Calls Tucker and Candace and Megyn Kelly, Nazi lovers and Jew haters. You know, Mark, I’m sorry. I know. Let me make a point. You have mischaracterized the clip. Let me make a point. Let me make this point. Calling people who criticize Israel Jew haters is ridiculous. There are people who are. Well, we could find the clip that he played. He did. He said, what is with these Jew haters? What is with these neo-Nazis? Candace,
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But if you’ve done a little bit of BBC edit on that, because with a few words interspersed, it is a companion thought that says, I don’t get this Candace Owens, Tucker, Megan Kelly. It’s a kind of a companion parallel thought that is somewhat short of attaching a specific neo-Nazi label to them precisely.
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Wow, that’s a lot of parsing. But if you play it, I’ll be fine. For a 20-second clip. Well, I’m looking at it. Guys, do you have the clip? Oh, Christian might have it here. Let’s play this, because this is what Megan posted. And by the way, her comment, just for context, was, you absolutely did, you lying POS. You won’t be happy until you get someone killed. Now, and before I play the clip.
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Enough of that.
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Well, that’s just enough. Well, how about enough of calling people who criticize Israel Jew haters? How about enough of that, Mark?
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He didn’t. He didn’t. OK, well, well, that’s that is happening because he is talking broadly. OK, let’s listen to more about Nick Fuentes. Let’s listen and go.
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Let’s listen, because he well, he doesn’t say Nick Fuentes. He says Carlson and he said, here’s the clip. I don’t know where this is going.
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I don’t know where there’s Jew hatred from the Marxists, the Islamists, the neo-Nazis, the grifters. I don’t know where they’re pulling us and pushing us. What do they want to do with American Jews? What do they want to do? Where are they taking this country? They’re destroying it. Carlson, Owens, Kelly, Bannon, the rest of them and others. There you go.
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It’s kind of funny. I guess it’s glass half full, glass half empty or we look for the scenario that we want. That’s that’s 30, 35 seconds there where he talks about. Do you think he do you think he believes that they are Islamists? Of course not. He’s talking about neo-Nazis. And Islamists and then pivots to a discussion of what are these people doing who are in this community of grifters, the which he considers Tucker to be. And I now do, too. And the people who will travel in traffic and run a protection racket for these grifters like Megyn Kelly and like Candace Owens.
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Well, I think it’s really wrong to call her a grifter. I think that’s bad. I think it’s premature.
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I think Candace Owens is. I think Tucker is becoming one. Megan is grifter adjacent.
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I just hate them arguing with each other about all of this. I don’t care. And I hate you and me arguing about it.
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Why not argue it?
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I don’t care. Our enemy, our political foe, are the lunatic leftists who think that a communist, you know, as the mayor of New York City, represents their party. So what are we supposed to do? I do weary of this. And that imbecile Jasmine Crockett, who represents their party. And that moron Eric Swalwell, who might be the governor of California.
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Yes, Eric Swalwell, ready for governor of California.
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So, I mean, I don’t know what the right thing is to do, Mark.
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I know exactly what the right thing is to do. Call out people who don’t have the spine and fortitude to say what the what with Tucker Carlson offering a foot rub to Nick Fuentes. Period.
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You’ve done it. I’ve done it. It’s not hard. That’s one person. That’s Tucker Carlson. That doesn’t mean you throw all of them into a cauldron of anti-Semitism.
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I’ll put Candace Owens on the lip of that cauldron every day. And Megan, and again, these are case-by-case basis, for some weird and mysterious reason, Megan has grown very, very sensitive and very, very aggressive toward people who have wondered why she is running a protection racket for Tucker and being so harsh at people who have criticized him.
SPEAKER 11 :
You keep saying run a protection racket for Tucker. I mean, look, people of good faith can argue about the merits of putting Nick Fuentes. Would you interview Nick Fuentes?
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I suppose. Although, again, once again, William James, there’s wisdom in knowing whom to ignore. He wouldn’t last two minutes. He would not last two minutes with me. Not two minutes, because I will do what Tucker somehow could not find the space to do. And that’s ask him, hey, I got a list of horrific things you’ve said. Would you like to explain them? He, for some reason, didn’t do that. It was intellectual dishonesty of the highest order.
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I get it.
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Criticized.
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And he’s getting criticized, and that’s okay. I get it. I think that I just worry that the criticism goes too far. Look, Mark, we’ve got a problem here. You can’t just ignore that young people in particular and all of everybody on our side in general are cooling to supporting Israel relentlessly. And that’s just part of all of this. And I just don’t want to alienate people by lashing out and saying, you’re a Jew hater if you think we shouldn’t keep giving money to Israel. By the way, I believe in standing with Israel.
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