In this episode of the Best Stocks Now show, Bill Gundersen and Barry Kite analyze the latest market movements following a significant jobs report. They discuss the mixed performance of major indices, providing insight into how these numbers influence the market’s direction. The episode also highlights sector-specific developments, particularly within tech stocks such as Meta, and the oil and gas industry. Drawing on expert opinions, the hosts outline their perspectives on current undervalued opportunities and the market forces at play.
He’s been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He’s the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He’s president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Thursday post-Big Jobs Report Day edition of the Best Stocks Now show with Bill Gunnarsson and Barry Kite. And we have a mixed market here so far. We were positive across the board, but now we’ve got a little bit of a downdraft here in the NASDAQ. But as of now, the Dow is up. Fairly strongly. It’s up 200 points, 40 basis points. Remains above 50,000. It’s at 50,323. The NASDAQ is down 64. It’s at 23,001. The S&P is up 6 points. It’s at 6,947. Hopefully, we’ll be seeing 7,000 gains. Before too long, the Russell 2000 up a little bit here so far. What else do we have here? Gold down a little bit today. Gold, however, has reclaimed that 5000 mark. But gold is down a few basis points here today, as is silver. The 10 years down to 4.14 right now, backing off a little bit from yesterday’s jump after that big jobs report. And last but not least, how is Bitcoin faring today? It’s up $667, but it remains at $67,892. So welcome to today’s Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I’m here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. Our article got a little bit of traction yesterday. We actually gave our current ranking and feelings and opinion of Meta. Meta also, I heard later in the day that, who’s that big money manager back, hedge fund manager, one of the big guys back there with the silver hair. I can’t think of his name right now. But he is a big proponent and been buying Meta himself. It’s amazing how great minds think alike, Barry. And he was also saying that this is the most undervalued of the big tech stocks right now. And he is a buyer of Meta. So it’s always good to get in the mouth of two witnesses, right? Einhorn, not Einhorn. The other guy, Barry, he’s in the new Ackman, Bill Ackman. Bill Ackman, yeah, that’s who I was thinking.
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I could see his face, but I couldn’t come up with his name.
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Yeah, very distinguished-looking guy. He looks smart, and I don’t know how he’s done over the years, what his track record is like. But if he likes meta and he thinks it’s cheap, that’s in agreement with us, and I’m all for him. The markets were just slightly up yesterday. They got a strong start. Okay, you had that big jobs report. which has really kind of turned the narrative around rather quickly. I think Trump needed that big jobs report because it’s kind of been several very weak reports in a row, and that kind of turned the narrative around with a very strong report.
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Yeah, it was interesting where kind of when you read between some of the – various hiring sectors it sounds like you know essentially it was a lot of health care workers hired and not many you know not in other other areas not not having as much hiring so well and government workers were way down so and that’s been one of his you know he’s trying to privatize the economy away from government spending and Well, I heard him say, I think it was, I don’t know, last week or so, where he said, essentially, government is usually one of the bigger hires. And he says, if I want unemployment to go to this rate, he goes, all I’ve got to do is hire a bunch of federal workers.
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That’s basically what Biden did for several years, just juicing the government sector with fat workers. A lot of fat and waste, more than likely, but that’s the way government is. Now, the surprising thing for me yesterday, I did look at a lot of charts yesterday. Boy, the number one sector in the market right now, bar none, is the oil and gas sector, the drillers, even the producers, the small natural gas companies, the drillers, the field equipment, the Halliburton’s, the Schlumberger’s, SLB. Definitely the strongest sector. Precious Metals had a good day yesterday also. And some pockets of AI. Today I saw a couple. We have a couple big winners. At least they were. Seagate. I don’t know if they held on to those gains. But Seagate and Western Digital were out of the gate very, very quickly here this morning with like 5% to 6% gains. That’s a good thing.
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I saw an interesting, along those memory lines, I saw talk about how that price, obviously that high price is good for Western Digital, MU, and the others, but I saw where Cisco had a pretty… It’s bad for them. had some dips on their margins because they’re having to pay so much for the memory side of it.
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Yes, they’re having to pay for that higher memory. And I’m going to give you a way to play. Samsung reported earnings. And, of course, Samsung is also part of that big explosion in the memory chips. And the other one, they’re both South Korean companies. You really can’t play them individually, but I did find an ETF that between those two stocks. 50% of that ETF is those two stocks.
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Okay, yeah.
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And it’s EWY, I believe. Let me take a look and make sure that’s right, which I have a keen interest in because that Hynex company is coming out with a bunch of HBM chips, and they’re trying to fill the shortage right now of those memory chips. And that is a way to get exposure to that red-hot sector. It’s EWY, which is iShares MSCI South Korea. And I looked up its holdings yesterday, and sure enough, 50% of that ETF is those two stocks. And it’s hitting a new high today. It’s up 1.93%. So that’s one of the things we do is we look for ways to get exposure to some of these great areas in the market. And, you know, you look at a chart of Samsung, SSNLF, and it’s unplayable. I mean, it hardly ever trades. And for the general public, it’s just not. It’s basically a placeholder. Yeah. And the other one is not traded at all. And yet through this ETF, which is another way, I mean, to get exposure to some of these stocks that trade on other exchanges that we don’t have. access to, that seems to be the best way to do it. Yeah, that’s good.
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I had a client ask me yesterday, actually.
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Yeah, somebody asked us that question, and so I went searching. And I have noticed that EWI has been hitting new highs. It’s showing up on my momentum list. And of course, the app measures momentum, not just individual stocks, but also ETFs show up a lot of times, and they’re experiencing a lot of momentum. Initial jobless claims slightly higher than expected in the past week, but yeah, it’s still low. 227,000 is very low. It remains low, so that’s two good jobs reports in a row, although it did come in a little bit higher. than expected, and it must have been higher because we’re seeing interest rates go down on that news today, which is a good thing. Interest rates react to these jobs reports. They’re very, very keenly watching and very sensitive to these jobs.
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Yeah, bad economic news is good news for interest rates, meaning usually it tends to make interest rates go down. Right.
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If you got a very, very weak jobs report and a very big jump in unemployment claims, you would see interest rates go down because they would already start pricing in a rate cut within the next couple of meetings at the Fed, which right now – I would say that the odds of a rate cut, there’s two words that come to mind. Slim and none are the two words. I used to hear from my mother a lot. What’s the chances of me going to the movies with my buddies this week? Slim and none. Is your homework done?
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What you wanted to hear was maybe, because that one usually went in my favor pretty well.
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You could work a maybe, but Slim and none was like, just say no, Mom. That’s a hard no. That’s what they kids now, it’s a hard no. Yeah, I could see Jerome Powell with his arms folded looking down at Trump over his glasses saying, don’t even think about it. Cisco Systems, we’ll get to them. They reported earnings. They’ve benefited somewhat, I think, from the boom in AI. But like Barry said, this time they’re being hurt a little bit. And we’ve got McDonald’s weighing in. You know, that’s a good consumer stock. It gives us a little bit of flavor there on how the consumer is doing right now. And what about this big sell-off in the real estate, you know, real estate data stocks yesterday? We’ll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today’s Best Stocks Now show. Well, earnings season continues in full swing. Tonight we get Airbnb, Roku, Twilio, Agnico Eagle Mines, which has been one of the hottest stocks in the entire market, believe it or not. It’s a gold miner. DraftKings will report, Rivian, Arista Networks, that’s an important one in the AI space, data center space. Tomorrow we get Moderna, which got a snub yesterday from the FDA on their latest experimental flu vaccine. And with… rfk jr uh in the helm it’s going to be hard to get any vaccines by him it seems like uh and uh anyways that’s those that will round out this week of earnings and by the end of the week we’ll probably have about 65 70 percent of the company’s reporting and it’s been another Very good earnings season. We’re looking for another double-digit gain year over year in earnings. That’s a phenomenal win streak that we’ve had. with these earnings seasons, which are a big part of my profession, each quarter as they trickle in, watching those earnings and the aggregate thereof, which I use as my basis for my entire macro outlook on the market, which has led me to be right more often than not for the last year since 2009 when earnings bottomed and this is now 2026 17 years of growing earnings in the s&p 500 outside of that covid year and one other little year where there was just a little notch downwards other than that it’s been a beautiful thing to behold Okay, we haven’t heard much from the small nuke sector. It has really fallen out of favor, I can tell you that. And as I went through the charts yesterday, I was telling you about the energy being the best sector in the market. right now but i continue to see some really ugly charts out there and these small nuke stocks and here’s one of the reasons why smr new scale is cut to a hold that td cowan this was yesterday as their first smr project might be delayed to 2034 barry Long duration, that’s what we said. Yeah, 2030, that’s a long time to sit and hold the stock waiting for a product. Then I see there was some news on the stock today that they’re teaming up with somebody and the stock’s up a little bit. But those long-term stocks, not doing well at all. Rare Earth, not doing well. The Nuke stock’s not doing well. But… How about Adobe hitting new lows? Ugly chart. Amazon’s got an ugly chart all of a sudden because of their big spending. Software apocalypse, right? The software apocalypse continues. Bitcoin has an ugly chart. It continues to have an ugly chart. Salesforce has a lousy chart. Carvana, which I never understood anyways as a hot stock. DoorDash is hitting new lows. Robinhood got whacked yesterday. Looks horrible. Lyft, which is Uber’s competitor. And Uber chart looks bad. Microsoft chart looks bad. Netflix looks bad. ServiceNow. And on and on and on, even Palantir, not a very good-looking chart whatsoever. And yesterday, it was the Zillows, the CBRE, the Jones, Lang, LaSalle, Cushman, and Wakefield. Real estate service stocks experienced a significant sell-off on Wednesday as investors assessed the sector’s vulnerability to artificial intelligence disruption. In other words, people would say, why do I need to pay for the reports? I remember the Dodge reports. I remember my family’s sign and the billboard business. We used to get the Dodge reports. And they were, you know, breaking ground, permits taken out on housing tracks and whatnot, because we did a lot of business with the home builders and whatnot.
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You need to know where the traffic patterns were going, too.
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Yes, where permits are, traffic patterns, where they’re breaking down, where new… Communities have been approved and everything. And the thinking is there, you know, and they were expensive to get the Dodge reports. I mean, everybody was after, whether it was a plumbing contractor, a framing contractor, an advertising company, you’ve got a new master plan community that’s been approved. And there’s a lot of work for a lot of people there. And all these subs would be looking at these Dodge reports that came out. It was very, very important. And now I guess, you know, that a lot of this stuff is available through artificial intelligence. So they’re calling it the AI scare trade. And it has bashed. We just went through all of these stocks that are hitting new 52-week lows with no bottom in sight. And it’s pretty much what they’re calling SAAS, Software as a Service, Armageddon. And whether it’s overdone or not, well, as long as these stocks are getting pounded, it’s pretty hard to say it’s overdone. And it’s time to jump in and buy because they haven’t even found a bottom yet.
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Yeah, and it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. I mean, you don’t want to fight against that narrative at the moment, right? I mean, you’ve talked about last week not trying to catch a falling knife. You know, this narrative, I mean, it’s probably not going to go away for an extended period of time. I mean, AI is changing things, and how it’s going to change things is kind of the tricky part. And so there’s just a lot of risk in those names trying to – trying to go against the tide of consensus, I guess.
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And then there’s individual disruptors, obviously, that come along. That sports betting sector, I was reading about Kalshi’s. They had a huge win in the Super Bowl with their marketing blitz. And, of course, that blows up DraftKings, Flutter, MGM, Fanatics. All of a sudden, Kalshi and Pauly Markets have arrived on the scene. They’re… They’re private companies, but they’re just disrupting that in tire. Look, I go back to the days when my father had to call a bookie. Right. Which wasn’t exactly going online to a legit service, right? He’d get some hot tip from a buddy about a horse running at Santa Anita, and he could get some action down. He didn’t have time to drive out to Santa Anita to put some action down. He needed an intermediary. He would call a bookie who would book the bet, right? Usually it’s a pretty good deal booking a bet because most people’s bets go south and you keep the money as the bookie. So anyways, I’ve seen that whole industry being disrupted by these prediction markets. And now I’m seeing a lot of these big brokerage houses starting to get into the predictions market. I don’t know. Well, when we come back, we’re going to talk about some of these earnings that are coming in. We’re drinking out of a fire hose right now. And we’re going to give a little bit of update on a couple of important stocks like Palantir, the drone stock, etc. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today’s Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. Now, back to the second half of the show. Thank you. Welcome back here to the second quarter of today’s Best Docs Now show. Just a little bit more color on this AI replacement theory. What industries will AI disrupt? And, you know, especially anybody that charges a big fee for doing something. And if you can get it for free or for very little from AI, there’s where your vulnerability is. And I noticed here Anthropic released Claude, a co-worker, earlier. I think that was last week. And it automated professional workflows in the legal and financial sectors. which caused LegalZoom and QuickBooks provider into it. Would it do your bookkeeping for you?
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It had some tax. I think it had some kind of tax info or tax benefits in there. And actually, some of the… Broker-dealers actually hit yesterday.
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Earlier this week, wealth manager stocks got slammed following the release of altruist tax planning tool called Hazel. You’ve been replaced by Hazel. You know, you’ve got a CPA there in the firm, and Hazel’s going to take over your desk here. Hazel leading to declines for LPL Financial, Charles Schwab, Ameriprise, Raymond James, etc. The theme here is disruption. With these high-fee businesses considered vulnerable to new AI tools and automation, Okay, now right now it’s kind of a theory. It’s not showing up yet. But, you know, where would it show up? It would show up in earnings. All of a sudden, you know, you’re seeing earnings not growing anymore for the S&P 500 because AI, it could be our worst enemy at the end of the day if it really cuts into earnings of companies that make a living. by charging for their services. I think personally it’s just going to, the winners and losers. There’s going to be losers and there’s going to be winners in all of this.
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Yeah, and, I mean, what it’s cutting into is free cash flow because these companies are having to spend, I mean, you know, to stay, just to stay where they are. They’re having to spend a lot of money. And so it’s a, you know, they’re, I mean, Google, for example, seems to be spending a lot of money. And, of course, on the search side, you know, they’re trying to just maintain the dominance that they’ve already had. Obviously, with Gemini and other things, they’ve got… They’ve got some growth opportunities, but they’re kind of on the fence, one side trying to protect what they’ve had and then on the other side trying to innovate.
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Yeah, and nowhere have I seen it more manifest itself than in this software as a service. That software sector, I saw it started to go about – two or three months ago and I warned in the newsletter where I that’s one of the sectors that I look at every Saturday I said this does not look good and eventually is going to in fact you know could infect the entire market especially the Nasdaq and I’m just looking at Palantir here today that’s still not a pretty chart at all it’s an ugly chart and you know we sold Palantir at 171 that’s 40 points ago Now, would artificial intelligence have made the same decision that I made? You know, I made the decision based on looking, visually looking at the chart and saying this is breaking support. And, obviously, we know it’s vulnerable. It still has a PE of 181, even with this sell-off that it’s had. High PE stocks are always vulnerable, but there’s no bottom to this chart yet. Maybe way down around 100. You’re at 131 right now on Palantir, and that chart is still pointing down. It’s in a number four downtrend. One, two, three, four. It’s a very simple system that I use in looking at stock charts. You know, they develop day by day. Those stock charts develop. And I can even tell when there’s an inflection point where I say, you know what? This is turning negative. This is going sour, Barry. And you want to get out of the way.
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Well, and that chart, too, I mean, in terms of the company, I mean, it moved so fast in the upward direction that, you know, when you have charts that do that, you’re not creating any support levels along the way. So then when you do kind of have that downturn, where the support level is can be far, far away from where the stock price is.
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I would say crypto is still looking for a bottom. The chart on crypto has not found a bottom yet. I mean, there may be support at $60,000. We thought there was support at $100,000. We thought there was support at $80,000, and we found out no. Like a hot knife going through butter, that support did not held at all. And this remains a very, you don’t want to buy weak charts. You want to buy solid charts. You want to sell weak charts. And yet, you know, I mean, we’ve heard Wedbush saying all the way down, you should step in. These are the 10 software stocks that you should own. Then there are all these stocks that are hitting hard. new lows and i don’t buy into that philosophy that’s being more passive than active and sometimes i there’s another expression for that back in the 2000s hope and pray you’re hoping and praying that it finds a bottom and it turns around that’s not a good strategy you have to use logic You cannot deny what your eyes are telling you, what your brain is telling you, what your gut is telling you. Now, can AI pick up on all of those emotions and whatnot? I don’t know. We’ll find out. It seems to me that AI is much more mechanical and lacks that emotional part of the equation. that a human being has. That’s just my opinion on that. Okay, let’s take a look at some of these companies here that have reported. Well, Samsung begins their commercial shipment of the HBM4, and that’s the one that is in such great shortage, and I did find a way to play that Samsung. And the other one is called SK Hynix. which doesn’t even trade. You can’t even trade it at all. But it is in those two stocks, SK Hynix and Samsung, are in that EWY ETF. In fact, 50% of that South Korea ETF is those two stocks. And they expect to provide some of the HBM4 for the Vera Rubin. If you don’t know who Vera Rubin is, that’s the latest NVIDIA, whatever you want to call it, community that’s going into the data centers. I thought it was a sandwich. I know. Well, there is a California Rubin, which is turkey and coleslaw instead of corned beef and cheese. And sauerkraut. That seems like a bad trade, by the way. I prefer the corned beef and sauerkraut route. A little Swiss cheese and Russian dressing on grilled rye. You can’t beat that one. Anthropic is going to cover the electricity price increases from its data centers. So people that live in a neighborhood of a data center, all of a sudden their electricity prices are going up. and entropics that don’t worry well this is how desperate they are to get the power that they need to run these data centers okay well here’s your bad news story of the day here’s a company messing around with their accounting practices that’s never a good thing icon I want to say I might have owned it somewhere during my career. They do contract research for biotechs. A lot of these biotechs, they’re not big enough to have their own, do their own, you know, what do you call it, a study, phase one, phase two. Yeah, trials. Clinical trials.
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Clinical trials, yeah.
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So ICON steps in and you contract them to get the people, get the enrollees, pay the people, monitor the results, make sure everything is by the books and everything. And it’s a pretty good model. Actually, it’s been a pretty good stock over the years, but man, it’s getting pounded today.
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uh as there’s some questioning their accounting practices the stock is down 36 percent yeah you never knew we talk about all the time you never want to hear anything earnings revision or accounting uh issues right i mean what was the what was the company that’s still been kind of coming back from that that was uh i don’t know it was last year it was um tech name i’ll think of it in a minute but They really haven’t recovered since they… SMCI. Yeah, SMCI. And they still haven’t really recovered.
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Enron never recovered. They went to jail. And a few others, high profile. You don’t want to… You don’t want to mess around with your books. The books are what they are. It is what it is. These are the numbers. We’ve added up the numbers. We’ve subtracted the numbers. Here’s the bottom line. It is what it is. Okay, we’ll be right back. We’ll look at McDonald’s. We’ll look at a few others that have reported here. System.
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You’ve got to go where you want to go. Do what you want to do. And then whoever you want to be. You’ve got to go where you want to go. Do what you want to do.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today’s Best Stocks Now show. Well, we’re going to take a look at a couple of widely held stocks, meaning that a lot of people within our listening audience, podcast audience, et cetera, might own these stocks. McDonald’s weighs in. You know what? They had a really good quarter. What can I say? Their sales were up 10% and their earnings were up 10%. And from what I’m hearing, they’re winning the price war. They’re knocking a lot of people out with their firepower.
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And they’re using AI for ordering. So they’ve been working. I saw something where their AI is potentially can help the order taking, right? Yeah. That’s at the drive-thru.
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If we could just get some consistent quality, a hot product right off the grill like In-N-Out Burger does, they just can’t seem to get that part right. That’s just my opinion. But now, how about the stock? It’s rare. It’s rare that we don’t get a portfolio from a very large wire house firm, and the person that owns that portfolio does not have a position in McDonald’s. It’s one of the most recognizable names and one of the most recognizable brands the world over. Now how have you done as an investor in McDonald’s? About the same as the burger. A little bit on the soggy side if you ask me. Over the last 10 years, you might say, well, 13% is not bad, Bill. That’s a heck of a lot better than a T-bill, a heck of a lot better than past book savings. 13.3% has been the average return over the last 10 years. But when you compare it to the S&P 500, that’s a fair comparison. The S&P has done double that, 27% per year. That makes a big difference over a 10-year period of time. But you could do worse. Now, the problem is I’m seeing diminishing returns. As they saturate the world, run out of places to grow, where I see the growth is new communities. For instance, our neck of the woods, we’ve got some booming communities. Nexton and Somerville are booming. And, you know, as they grow out, they need to add McDonald’s. That’s where the growth is, is in… areas that are expanding. It’s pretty rare that you see a McDonald’s close down. I’ve seen a lot of Wendy’s close down. I’ve seen a lot of Burger King’s close down. Yep, but not, yeah, McDonald’s tends to not. Pretty rare for a McDonald’s to close down. Now, over the last three years… Diminishing returns, 9.7% per year, while the S&P has been 23.3%. And over the last year, McDonald’s is up 7.2%. The market’s up 14.5%. It gets a C+. I grade on the curve. It gets a C-plus performance grade. it does hold up better in a bear market than the S&P however the last bear market we had was 07 through 09 it was about 15 months or 21 months something like that the S&P went down 54.5 percent during that bear market that was the financial crisis McDonald’s only went down 1.3 percent so it is a little bit bear proof but You’re giving up a lot, I say, in the opportunity cost by owning something better that’s growing. Now let’s take a look at the valuation. We’re looking backwards here. We’re getting a C plus grade on the performance of the stock. I have a target price five years out. I’m putting in 7% growth. They just had a 10% quarter, but if you look at their annual growth lately, you know, maybe you could stretch it a little bit. Maybe 7, 8, 9 would be at the upper end. Over the last five years, it’s been 12, but they’re slowing down. They’ve got 43,477 McDonald’s worldwide. They opened 2,100 in 2024. So you can see, I mean, that’s what, 4% or 5% growth as far as new McDonald’s, new buildings. I come up with 49% upside potential over the next five years, which is a value grade of F+. F+. We’re just grading on the curve here. There’s a lot better. McDonald’s is a strong hold. Somebody asked me, why don’t you just use buy, sell, or hold? Well, I use gradations. There’s a big difference between a strong buy and a weak buy and a buy. I have three gradations of buy. And I have three gradations of hold. I have a strong hold, I have a hold, and I have a weak hold. That’s because my artificial intelligence that I built into the app is able to create those gradations. And there’s a big difference, believe it or not, between a stronghold and a hold. A hold is just absolutely neutral dead in the water. So McDonald’s is just a little bit better than a hold right now. Now you have to say, I’ve got $200,000 in my IRA. Do I want to devote $10,000 or $5,000 to owning McDonald’s? Is it one of the best stocks out there in the world today for my portfolio? The other one I want to talk about is another one that is almost always in a large wire house portfolio, and that’s Cisco. And I consider Cisco, they’ve gotten a little bit of new life with AI, but they’re mostly involved with telecom. And that’s AT&T, and that’s Verizon, and that’s not as much of a booming industry as AI is. Cisco is one of the reasons why the NASDAQ is now down today. Cisco’s down 11%. As they missed earnings, they guided, and the guidance was bad. I wouldn’t use up space in my portfolio. I wouldn’t have $5,000, $10,000. I wouldn’t have any exposure to Cisco because it has even worse grades, worse performance, worse valuation than McDonald’s has. Okay, well, we’re out of time. Hopefully you learned something here during this exercise, during this show. Houston’s coming up to reserve a one-hour spot with us or a seat at the workshop. Call us at 855-611-BEST to talk to us about portfolio management. 855-611-BEST to see what we own currently. To get four weeks of the newsletter and the portfolios, the model portfolios, GundersenCapital.com. GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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