From the heart of our nation’s capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation’s leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now. We have repaired the damage to this building, but we cannot repair the damage to your hearts. No words can take away your grief. No amount of time can make sense of the worst terrorist attack in American history. That was Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin at the Pentagon today marking the 23rd anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on the United States. This is Washington Watch. I’m Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for joining us. I’ll speak to Mike Johnson announced earlier today that the vote on the temporary funding measure with the “save act” attached will be delayed while the GOP leaders continue to build consensus. No vote today because we’re in the consensus building of business here in Congress with small majorities. That’s what you do. That’s what I’ve been doing since I became a speaker. We’re having thoughtful conversations, family conversations within the Republican Conference, and I believe we’ll get there. So people have concerns about all sorts of things. That’s how the process works and sometimes it takes a little more time. I met with speaker earlier today and he is committed to ensuring the integrity of this fall’s election by making sure only legal ballots are cast. And that of course is what the “save act” is about. We’re going to talk with Texas Congressman Chip Roy, who was the author of the original “save act.” Vice President Kamala Harris and ABC’s Lindsey Davis were serving up some woppers last night. There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born. That vice president want to get your response to President Trump. Well, as I said, you’re going to hear a bunch of lies. And as you rightly mentioned, nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion. That is not happening. It’s insulting to the women of America. Talk about lies. Melissa Odin, founder and director of the Abortion Survivors Network is here to fact check ABC and Kamala Harris. It just so happens that the Family Research Council has a new resource on state laws regarding babies born alive after failed abortions. Mary Sock joins me. Speaking of the debate, it was actually debating. Crime in this country is through the roof. And we have a new form of crime. It’s called migrant crime. And it’s happening at levels that nobody thought possible. President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country. But by President Trump, they were defrauding statements. They didn’t include the worst cities. They didn’t include the cities with the worst crime. That was ABC’s David Moore debating President Trump last night and we have to stay woke like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about if you’re the woke is or woker, but just a more woke than less woke. That of course was Vice President Kamala Harris. Birds of a woke feather flock together. The Harris campaign announced a list of big business leaders endorsing her for President last week. Now that is not super surprising given the cozy relationship we’ve seen between the left and big business. But the other side of this woke coin tells another story, a very revealing story. Suzanne Valley with the Washington stand is here with the details. The website Tony Perkins dot com and let me remind you once again coming up very, very soon October the third through the sixth here in our nation’s capital is this year’s prevote stand summit. Make make plans now to join us and be a part of the prevote stand summit October the third through the sixth here in Washington, DC to find out more. Go to prevote stand dot or G. Members of the House of Representatives are currently on the House floor for a series of votes not up for a vote today. However, it is the continuing resolution for government spending that includes the safeguard American voter eligibility act or save act for short. House Speaker Mike Johnson pulled the scheduled vote for a stopgap funding plan while party leaders work to build consensus on this extension that avoids a year in omnibus package or government shutdown. We’re going to join to just a moment by Chip Roy, who is on the House floor. I don’t think what do we have him yet. Let’s go to to Victoria Marshall get the latest on this from Capitol Hill. Victoria. All right, Victoria give us the latest on on the say back and the CR. Yeah, well. Speaker Mike Johnson pulled the full the bill form from a vote form the House floor two day because he realized you didn’t have the necessary. Votes to pass the bill. There’s at least 15 House Republicans that were going to vote against it. That’s at least what leadership is saying and seven at least seven Republicans said they publicly would not vote for it. So right now speaker Johnson and his team are going to be using the weekend to try and build a consensus and flip those no votes to see if they can pass it next week. All right, we’ll see if we get thank you Victoria. We’re going to see if we get Chip Roy here with us just moment. Let me I was actually on the hill earlier today. In a meeting with the speaker discussing this issue. So here’s what we have. We have the House have has passed about three quarters of the funding bills. There’s 12 appropriations bills. They have about 72% of government funding has been approved by the House gone to the Senate and guess what the Senate hasn’t dealt with it’s just sitting there. This is this has been the mode of operation since the Democrats have been controlling the Senate. So here’s what will happen. Here’s the scenario. So the House will pass these budget bills they’ll go to the Senate the Senate will do anything with them until the very last minute and then they will do an omnibus was filled with all kinds of bad stuff and dare the Republicans to to not pass it and shut the government down. So what House Speaker Mike Johnson has done is kind of getting a jump on this before the end of the year. Doing this now in September to do a continuing resolution for six months into March with the save act attached now with the save act does is and if you get Chip Roy, he’ll explain it more because he’s the author of the bill. But essentially what it does is makes very clear that you cannot register to vote unless you can prove you’re a citizen. Here’s what’s happening some states allow illegal immigrants non non citizens to register and vote in their state and local elections. But when you get a ballot remember when you go into the ballot booth when you go into the voting booth you don’t get a ballot for federal elections and a ballot for state elections you just get one ballot. And if you’re in many cases not having to give proof of citizenship or anything else you’re voting. And that’s been proven to be the case now the Democrats say it’s not happening it’s already illegal yes it’s illegal but it’s not being enforced because of the system that’s set in place. This would put in place a system that makes very clear that if you’re not a citizen you can’t register and you can’t vote in federal elections. Pre-strait forward so if you’re against illegal voting you should be for the save act now the house has already passed the save act it’s gone to the Senate and guess what? Add moved Chuck Schumer refuses to take it up so what the house is trying to do is force the hand of the Senate by putting this on to a must pass piece of legislation which is the continuing resolution. Now the problem is we just heard is that there are a handful of Republicans who do not want to vote for this and I understand there’s some that they don’t want to vote for CR’s they feel like it’s time to get away from CR’s agreed. CR’s are a bad way to do business but worse than CR’s are omnibus bills and here’s the here’s the options here are the options before Congress I’ve seen this play before I know how the movie ends so what happens is if they don’t take this action now and they’re going on the offense by doing this what you’re going to have is at the end December which is going to be a lame duck session of Congress you will have you’ll probably get a temporary CR at the end of September that will push this into December and so at the end of the year when you have a lame duck session of Congress and nothing good happens in a lame duck session you’re going to get an omnibus and it’s going to be a Christmas tree filled with all kinds of stuff for the left for Joe Biden, Kamala Harris as a Democrats lose hopefully control of of Congress so this is a time and it would be very helpful for you to contact your members of Congress and tell them to support the save act and on this continuing resolution to get past the end of the year into the next Congress hopefully to get back to regular order when it comes to budgeting so that’s again the continuing resolution and the new year back to the next Congress. All right I think I don’t think we’re going to get I think chip I think I just got word chip is headed to the cloakroom I’ll give a chance to get there I do want to talk a little bit more about this debate we’re going to talk about a little bit later but it was it it’s stunning how truth is is evading our public discourse and if you watch that debate last night there was there was an absence of truth and to blatantly say that there are not that the Democratic Democratic Party’s policy is not to allow babies to be aborted up till birth and beyond to say that’s not happening in the United States it is we’re going to talk about that coming up in our next segment just so happens the family research council this week put out a report showing the states that have no laws no restrictions and there are some states that actually report numbers and we know this is happening it is it is in fact happening in fact let me let me play this this clip because I don’t think I can play this too often the play clip number one there is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born that advice president want to get your response to president Trump well as I said you’re going to hear a bunch of lies and as you rightly mentioned nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and and and asking for an abortion that is not happening it’s insulting to the women of America we only have about eight to ten states that actually report on abortions late term abortions this information so just out of those states that do report we have over 270 of these abortions that occurred last year that’s just that’s just out of a handful of states and of course most want to cover this up and we of course we now have the abortion pill that is being sent across state lines into pro-life states so there was a very clear contrast and I have to say I thought the press I thought former president Trump was very clear and prosecuting his case on the abortion issue and showing who is so extreme and it is the Democratic Party that’s extreme on this issue where they do support abortion up until the moment of birth and beyond and all this talk about what we just want to what a codify row into law that is what row is row V Wade is abortion until birth and that is what they want to make the policy of this nation in addition to eradicating erasing almost every pro-life law that’s on the books in the states regardless of what the states have done that is what the Democratic Party stands for all right when we come back we’re going to talk more about this Melissa Odin joins me she is a survivor of a failed abortion attempt and now she has a network of those who have survived abortions themselves she joins us next here on Washington watch so don’t go away a lot more Washington watch still ahead in fact during the break go to prevot stand dot or G and register for this year’s prevot stand summit again that’s prevot stand dot or G coming up October the third through the 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country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born man of vice president want to get your response to president Trump well as I said you’re going to hear a bunch of lies and as you rightly mentioned nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and and asking for an abortion that is not happening it’s insulting to the women of America well that’s a fair fight you know two women and one man against Donald Trump all right let’s fact check ABC 21 states allow abortion until birth all right 15 states have no laws protecting babies that are born alive after a failed abortion and those states the baby who’s born alive dies of course there’s evidence to suggest that in some cases they’re left to die in other cases they’re not left to die they are assisted and died joining out to discuss this is Melissa Odin founder and director of the abortion survivors net work she herself is a survivor of a botched saline infusion abortion Melissa welcome back to Washington watch thanks so much Tony all right let me get your reaction to Lindsey Davis’s comments last night refuting president Trump when he pressed Kamala Harris well if we want to use the word insulting I think I can speak on behalf of our population of survivors to say it’s insulting to be told that this doesn’t happen and that these kind of things just simply right we don’t exist this is the most marginalized silence population that I know of in our world today and the fact that the media gets away with quote unquote fact checking and still denying our existence when there are not only stories of survivors and the moms who went through it clinic workers abortionist but we have research Tony that is talking about second trimester abortion and live births and yet they’re still trying to say this doesn’t happen let’s talk let’s talk a little bit about some of those facts because even though there’s just a handful of states that actually report on this we still have some numbers that show very clearly this does happen we do and you know in the 10 states that we’re looking at we see about 270 reported cases and I want to be clear about something the other side loves to say that this doesn’t happen and that’s why we don’t even reported anymore but if folks even go to these maps that you guys updated today so thank you so much for updating those maps when people look at the overlay of what abortion laws are and where states have repealed abortion protection so New York Illinois Minnesota folks can clearly see this is not an anomaly we know what the playbook of the abortion industry in lobby is unregulated unrestricted abortion and stripping born alive reporting and rights this is not a coincidence Tony they know exactly what they’re doing they know that unrestricted abortion leads to live births after abortion and they simply don’t want to report it and they don’t want to acknowledge the fact that therefore children like me are not being provided medical care let’s talk about that element of the non reporting because that also was brought up in last night’s debate now there have been measures that have been introduced into Congress that would require states to report on various elements of abortion because states are not required to to to report this information so it’s hard to have actual accurate data so one of the the charges one of these false charges from Kamala Harris against Donald Trump is that he wants the government to monitor pregnancies and miscarriages I mean this like as if some big brother is going to be you know watching what you’re doing terms your pregnancy this is the reporting as they they’re trying to make this radio active so that that will not be reported so that we will not do no as you were just saying what they’re doing absolutely Dr. Willard Gates of the CD said see said this decades ago right essentially he said you know what these go under reported because we know what would happen the public clamor that would happen if the public knew how often this was happening and so you know this is where I want to encourage people to not only think for themselves but question the media and for those of us who know the truth be willing to have these conversations with friends and family to say listen I know you think you know but I’ve I got to encourage you to live with this cognitive dissonance and understand that there’s more to this story than what you’re hearing even in these debates and you know what I would encourage people to do our website abortion survivors.org is being redesigned it’s not going to be a big deal but what you’re going to see in it are tons of white papers because we are spending a lot of time going through data from other countries who do have pretty strong statistics when it comes to born alive births and some of that I was putting out on social media last night and even today and you know what I want people to understand is there are clear research studies looking at second trimester abortions and what they want to do to prevent the abortion and what they want to do to prevent live births from it so they’re talking about fetus I injecting diastogen into the heart and they were comparing and contrasting what the live birth rates look like how they deliver that shot so I need ABC to take a look at this and maybe school themselves. It’s amazing what they will do to cover this up we just have about a minute and a half left Melissa Odin talk about these children these babies that are born alive I mean this is the issue the late term abortion a child survives an abortion born alive what happens to them in those states where there are no protections for those babies. Minnesota is a really sad example of that Tony this story is out on YouTube thanks to Brian Gibson and his team but I got to meet a mom a number of years ago at an event and hug her she’s a mom much like my own biological mother whose abortion failed in this mother circumstance she was at an abortion clinic in St. Paul and that the oxygen heart shot to the heart did not end her child’s life. They realized your ultrasound that it didn’t end the abortion clinic staff said right in circumstances like this we would break the Bayes neck. Wow this is the reality that people need to face and we need to do something with it. Yeah and just a couple more factoids for this is that Tim Walls as the governor there was provisions put in place to protect unborn babies that were born alive to actually minister health care to them. He repealed that he signed the repeal as governor Kamala Harris twice in the United States and voted against protections for children who are born alive the left clearly stands on this the other side of this and they do not want the world to know what they’re really all about Melissa oh not want to thank you for joining us and keep up the great work. Thank you. Folks after the break we’re going to continue this conversation with the new FRC report which breaks all the facts down don’t go away. America was a bright light until the culture gave into darkness but we won’t we’re in a battle for the soul of our nation between right and wrong between truth and lies. 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This is Washington watch I’m Tony Perkins your host go to any with us the website Tony Perkins dot com and let me again remind you make your plans now to join us for this year’s prevailed stand summit October the third through the sixth year in our nation’s capital. Simply go to prevailed stand dot org prebo stand dot org and you can find out more information and you can register right there. Well as I was discussing in the last segment last night’s presidential debate illustrated I think well illustrate a lot of stuff but one of them was the start contrast between the two parties and their view of life and babies and children. Now this comes just as this week as the family research council center for human dignity released an updated issue brief born alive abortion survivors just the facts and an updated born alive protection map. Now join me now to discuss this issue and in the map and why it is so important to have this information as the November election approaches is Mary Soxie is the director for the center for human dignity here at the family research council Mary welcome back to Washington watch. Thanks so much for having me on Tony. So before we get to this report I want to play a clip from last night where this was a part of the discussion in fact it appears that the vice president conflated a lot of different things together to about IVF abortion health care and of course I want to be very clear health care should not include abortion abortion is not health care. I want to see if you can make sense out of what she had to say play clip number four couples who pray and and and and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments. What is happening in our country working people working women who are working one or two jobs who can barely afford child care as it is have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers. To go and get the health care she needs barely can afford to do it and what you are putting her through is unconscionable Mary what she talking about. Well it’s really difficult to say because what she said was so incoherent but it appears that she’s trying to convince the American people that IVF is illegal in in states where unborn life is protected. You know I wish that we lived in a world where every every child was protected from the moment of fertilization but that’s just not true and as it stands at this moment IVF is legal in every state of the country. When when she talks about the life issue Kamala Harris is trying to instill fear in people but at the same time she wants to deny the reality that an unborn child is killed in the seventh eighth ninth month of pregnancy. Kamala Harris she doesn’t know how the American people feel about unborn children and she recognizes though that she is out of step with it so she has to lie about these issues. I mean it’s just bizarre it’s just a bizarre statement that you got to get on a plane and to go get health care. It’s just I guess that’s what happens when you lie about these things. Let’s talk about the lie the big lie of the 2024 election last night I played the clip in the previous segment with Mary Oden that the moderator Lindsey Davis says that there’s no place in this country where babies are allowed to die after their born. That that’s not happening in this country. Let’s talk about the release of the report this week here at the Family Research Council. You know again I wish what she said was true but that’s just not a reality we released a report this week on babies born alive following an abortion and with just eight states reporting and these reports are done by abortionists who intended to kill the unborn child. There have been reports of 277 babies born alive and think about that the person who is making this report is someone who was paid to kill the child they have every incentive not to report that so we know that this number is not anywhere near the number of actual babies who survive abortions and then are either left to die or actively killed. Mary let me ask you a question is it in their minds this baby doesn’t exist and therefore. Does is not allowed to die because they feel like they’re aborting that baby the baby has no right to live therefore if the baby survives really doesn’t matter because we wanted to kill it anyway. Exactly and you know even in Tim walls state of Minnesota they had laws requiring that these these babies who were born alive be given healthcare healthcare on par with what another baby of the same gestational age would receive and Tim walls actually repealed those laws and in fact he repealed laws requiring the proper burial of those babies so he really what does one to pretend that these children just don’t engage in the baby. Children just don’t exist that they’re somehow just pieces of medical waste that can be done away with and thrown in the trash. Now very few states require reporting on these numbers how are you we able how are you able to get this information. Well the states who require the reporting they the issue actually pretty transparent. So the number of the number of babies who have survived abortions some of them require different levels of reporting there some that require you to say what the physician what the abortionist who was there did or what the physician who who intervened to help that child. So if you have the eight states that require reporting they do issue actual transparent reports very quickly to those it would say oh this isn’t in fantasy what would you say. It’s a baby and it was a baby from the moment that that child was born and if you if you want further proof of this take a look at the DC five and take a look at those babies whose remains were recovered there and look at them and see gosh there is no denying that that isn’t that. That isn’t that isn’t a little tiny baby who deserves our protection Mary so I want to thank you for joining us today and great report and folks you can find it at Tony Perkins dot com as well. Thank you Mary. Thanks for having me. All right check it out at Tony Perkins dot com you actually see the map as well after the break Suzanne bounty joins me to talk about the walk miss and business. The news reflects the world we live in but it also shapes it like it or not what we learn about the world on a daily basis impacts our thinking our worldview and ultimately our action. So much of today’s media is built on a shaky foundation that can send us hurling toward harmful ideas and hopeless solutions. Family Research Council created the Washington stand to be a news outlet that speaks from a firm foundation. Bringing you news commentary and analysis of what’s happening in America and around the world the Washington stand is unapologetically biblical and uncompromisingly committed to truth. Equip yourself for the world we live in with a biblical worldview found daily at the Washington stand. Find us at Washington stand dot com that’s Washington stand dot com. 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This is down Trump pressing Kamala Harris on where would she draw the line on abortion? At what point would you protect an unborn child? Clip five. And the other thing, they you should ask, will she allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month, seventh month? Okay, would you do that? Why don’t you ask that question? That’s the question. Would you be? Answer the question. You could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month. That’s not true. Probably after birth. It is true. It is absolutely true. That is the scheme under row, which they say they will put in place. The Women’s Health Care Act, which Nancy Pelosi put forward and actually passed the House. That’s exactly what it does. And it will eradicate almost every pro-life law in the nation. Again, there could not be, well, there could be a clearer contrast. But there is a pretty sharp contrast between the two parties. You know, one likes babies. The other does not. It’s very clear in their policies. Well, I’m going to transition to another topic because this is interesting, very interesting. Recently, the legacy media made a big push to proclaim that 88 corporate leaders have announced that they are endorsing Kamala Harris for president. Now, you know, everybody takes note, all business community is with Kamala Harris. And these endorsers may reflect the ongoing shift to Democrats becoming the party of big business and corporate interest. And there’s no lie about that. I’ve talked about that all the time. But a closer look at the actual list of signatories is incredibly revealing. Almost all of the recognizable brands in this list of endorsements had former, former. These are washed up walkers who signed on. Now, does this reflect corporate fear? Maybe that has kind of driven them away from making public embrace, public embracements of, of, of woke candidates like Kamala Harris. Does it show that the anti-woke pushback of everyday Americans is working? Gentlemen, now to discuss this and more as Suzanne Baudi editorial director and senior writer for the Washington stand. Suzanne, welcome back to Washington watch. Thanks for having me. All right. So the headlines made it look like all these business leaders, corporate America lining up behind Kamala Harris. And as I said, to be true, you know, business communities gone left. But there’s more to this story. Absolutely. And the headlines are doing exactly what they intended, which is if you just skim those headlines, you come away with the impression that everyone in corporate America thinks Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have had great economic policy and they haven’t. But if you actually click on that headline and you read those names, as you said, 44 of the 88 of those names from recognizable brands are past leaders past executives, which to me says. These businesses are seeing what’s happening to Bud Light to Harley Davidson to Cors Light to all of these businesses and saying we want no part of that. We don’t want the pushback to come at our door. The punishment has been too great to our profit margins. So we’re going to play it safe. And let me read some of these brands to you because these would be the next targets. We’re talking about Sam’s club, Walgreens, Starbucks, Xerox, American Express, American Airlines, Expedia, Pepsi, Ford, GoDaddy, Lyft. These are companies that American consumers can take out their frustrations on and they have been for the last 17 months. But in this case, these are former CEOs. Yes. So they don’t speak on behalf of the company. They actually don’t even qualify as business leaders. They’re former business leaders. They don’t actually even have jobs with these companies. So is this is this corporate America trend to have it both wise? Oh, I absolutely think so because attached to those names is Pepsi is Ford is Zillow are all these things so they can say, well, we kind of lean this way, but it’s not our official spokesperson saying this much. But this actually is something to celebrate in a sense because this shows that consumers have had a profound impact upon these brands by their reaction to things like, you know, like Bud Light, tractor supply, John Deere. I mean, the message is getting through. I think the message of this is if you’re an American who’s taken a stand for your values with your dollar, you’re winning. And I think 17 months ago when Bud Light slapped the face of Dylan Mulvaney on their cans, they had no idea that this sustained potent pressure would come to the doorsteps of all of these brands. And you have to also credit the activists who for years have fought this battle in the dark without much help. And now you have the people like Robbie starbuck, who’s exposing these brands, exposing the policies going on behind closed doors. In fact, just last week, Cors Light and also Ford said we’re no longer taking part in the human rights campaign equality index for corporate businesses. And that is a major slap in the face of what many considered to be the largest LGBT lobby. I mean, they are scrambling to figure out how to get their footing back at this point. It’s amazing to look back on. I can’t imagine that Bud Light ever thought that Dylan Mulvaney on their can would cause consumers to open a can of their own, you know, whoopin up on them after that. And it’s, it’s had a profound impact on consumers. But I think we need to realize where the left still is going with this and how businesses will continue to do this as long as they can get away with it. So let’s play a clip. This is of Kamala Harris back in 2017 talking about wokeness and just, you know, she’s trying to put on kind of a new appearance of being more moderate, if you will play, play that clip. You have to stay woke like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about if you’re the woke is to woke up, but just a more woke than less woke. How is that for a campaign slogan in 2024? I mean, they need to be playing this on repeat and campaign ads. And the good news is is that as people have said, you know what, enough is enough and they stand up and they verbalize their opposition and they also use their dollars voting with their dollars, voting with their feet that it makes it makes a difference. It’s a tangible thing that all of us can do if we’re paying attention to the right things and you know you always say courage breeds courage. And I think for a lot of years people thought, well, I’m just one person. What can I do? But you see what happens when an army of conservatives and it’s not just conservatives. One thing I would say to Kamala Harris is she’s in trouble because three quarters of Americans don’t want politics in their in the marketing of any brand. In fact, they just did a new poll in July that said three out of four. Now that crosses all the parties that crosses race age. You know, that’s very interesting. I was I was just talking to John Sorison, who is actually, by the way, a there are a co sponsor of the value voters. The prevost stand summit. Excuse me. I was in a evangelism explosion and they were I was in Kansas City this weekend. They were actually there. I was there for something else. But they were out doing evangelism explosion where they were having conversations. They were they were witnessing to people. They were just having conversations on the street. And he said every person they stopped when they asked it. Can I ask you a question? They said is a political. Wow. And then when they said no, I’m sure every person talk to them once they realize it wasn’t a political question. We we’ve. Politically we’ve become so polarized this country in part is because of this stuff that is being force fed down. Americans thought that they just sick and tired of it. But I also think there’s a fear factor to that. I mean nobody wants to be the only person who says, oh, you know, I don’t agree with this LGBT activism. But when there are millions of people making one big statement, it is so powerful where we’ve come in just two years. I mean things people never thought possible. And we can we can make these statements and we can express ourselves without being. Yeah, look, there’s going to be conflict at times, but we we don’t have to be disagreeable in the way we disagree. And and that look, we have every right as an American to express our views. And frankly, if we’re not doing so, we’re not speaking out. We’re not using our dollars in a way that fosters an environment that the values we care about and trying to instill in our children can go forward. Then we’re doing a disservice to our families to our community and to our country. Absolutely. I believe it’s a biblical mandate, not only the stewardship aspect, but in collagens of everything you eat and drink due to the glory of God. This is one of those things where we can make a huge difference just in the minute choices we’re making in the grocery aisle. Yeah, you can’t bring glory to God in store books. I mean, you sure can’t. Thank you. Yes. I mean, look, I think about these things and and I know my kids who adults now, they think about these things. And I think we need to to think through all of these elements when we make purchases. And sometimes we drive past certain places and sometimes we do without. You know, we’ll just say, all right, I don’t need that. Just because we do not want to facilitate those who are actually work taking our profits, the profits they gain from us and using them against us. And also look what’s happened when you’ve done that people are listening, the people that have the power to make these decisions to pull themselves out of these DEI, pro trans, LGBT policies are listening to the consumer. So I think everyone’s making a difference, even just one person. So let’s talk about the prevailed stand summit that’s coming up October the third through the sixth. There’s still room for people to register and be there. Let’s talk about who’s going to be there. We have a great lineup, including someone you might know Tony Perkins. I’m going to talk about that. Yeah, Mike Huckabee. We have Jack Hibbs. We have Pastor Gary Hammrich. We have Oz Guinness, the Benham Brothers, Aaron Hawley, the better half of Senator Josh Hawley. He told me he’s coming too. We’ll hold him to that because this is radio. But there are also some new faces too that we’re excited about. We’ve never had Sissy Graham Lynch. We’ve never had Vody Bachum. So those are a couple people you can also look forward to hearing from. And we also will have a lot of really interactive panels on the issues that matter right now. I mean, we’ll be diving into Title IX and parental rights education, the transgender movement, religious freedom, etc. So the name does reflect what we do. Absolutely. And there was a reason we went from Values voter summit a few years back to pray vote, stand summit because we realized that our nation is the battles that we’re fighting these issues that are coming before us. And never there’s been clear when we’re talking about just like the debate last night. Children, their lives being taken after birth. The Democratic Convention where they had an immobile abortion clinic outside the convention where nearly two dozen abortions were done. We’re in a spiritual battle. And the only way we can win that spiritual battle and hope to prevail is number one through prayer and through biblical truth. And so what folks are going to see at the Pravelled Stand Summit. They’re going to get plenty of information. They’re going to they’re going to rub elbows with a number of political leaders. But we’re going to pray. We’re going to be informed so that we can vote, vote biblical values. And we’re going to be equipped to stand, stand for that truth, not just on November 5th, but November 5th and beyond. We have to stand for that truth. And I would add that one of the really cool, unique things about this year. This is our 19th year of doing this national summit is that we’ve added an evening on Thursday night. This is new. We’ve not done this before on the third where we’re actually going to intentionally set aside time to pray, set aside time to worship and reflect before we even get into the issues because we believe that is so important. And who’s speaking that night? That’s a. Yeah, Mike Huckabee. Yeah, Mike Huckabee and Bishop Vincent Matthews, who’s always a favorite at the summit. And perhaps more we’ll see. Well, it is it’s going to be a critical time for us to together to pray for our nation to make sure we’re prepared because there’s we’ve been talking about this. We’re going to continue to talk talk about this, but there are 10 states that have measures on their ballot related to abortion, trying to advance abortion. So people need to be equipped of how to counter that. That’s some of the information they’re going to gain that this year summit as well. And also it’s not just the White House of you as you have been intentional about pointing out there’s so many down ballot races down to school board from from president to school board that people need to engage on and we hope to inform them about those as well. And dog catcher and dog catcher. We need godly dog catchers, especially cat catchers up in the spring field. Oh, that’s right. So, Dan Boutey, great to see you. Thanks, Tony. All right. And folks great to have you with us as well. I hope you will join us for this year’s pre-vote stand summit. We need to be praying. Okay. And I’m serious about that. We need to be praying each and every day for our nation, for our leaders. And as Suzanne said, we this is not just about the presidential election. It is about the congressional elections. I was just up on the hill earlier today having lunch with the speaker. And the house is going to be very close. The Senate is going to be very close. We’ve had governor’s races. We have state legislative races. We have attorneys general races. There’s so many races on the ballot school boards, city councils and yes dog catchers. So, we need to be praying. We need to be voting and we need to be standing for truth. And we’ll help you do that at this year’s pre-vote stand summit. So come and join us October 3rd through the 6th. Well, that’s all we have time for today. So let me again leave you with the encouraging words the Apostle Paul found in Ephesians 6 where he says when you’ve done everything you can do. When you’ve prayed, when you’ve prepared and when you’ve taken your stand. By all means, keep standing. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins is brought to you by Family Research Council and is entirely listener supported. Portions of the show discussing candidates are brought to you by Family Research Council Action. For more information on anything you heard today or to find out how you can partner with us in our ongoing efforts to promote faith, family and freedom, visit Tony Perkins.com. [Music] [Music]