In today’s episode, the hosts discuss the influence of earnings reports on market behavior and analyze significant stock performances. They unpack the intricate dance between U.S. tariffs, interest rates, and the stock market, exploring how these factors affect economic growth. With discussions on prominent companies like NVIDIA, AMD, and more, this episode offers a comprehensive look at today’s market. Don’t miss out on the expert analysis of Disney’s brand strength and why Novo Nordisk might be a company to watch for future investments.
He’s been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He’s the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He’s president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome to the Wednesday, the Wednesday, February 5th live edition of The Best Stocks Now with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I’m here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And some earnings reports here have got the market on its back feet here. So far today, we’ve got the Dow down 183. which puts the Dow at 44,373. just below that resistance level of 45,000 that it’s trying to chew its way through. The NASDAQ is down 129. Mostly Google, AMD, the two big losers in the market today. The NASDAQ is at 19,524. The S&P 500, the benchmark that most people watch, down 44 basis points right now. Down 26 points. It’s still above 6,000 at 6,011. And the surprising index today, the Russell 2000 small caps, actually up 9 points or 40 basis points today. And that could be because we’re seeing a big drop in interest rates today, believe it or not. You’ve got the 10-year down 7 basis points right now to 4.44%. We’ll try to figure out why that is in a bit. And last but not least, Bitcoin is also down today. Bitcoin down a couple thousand points, 1843 to be exact, 97,983. So welcome to today’s Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only money management firm. And here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. He’s a CFA and a CFP. and many other things. Lends a lot to the show and to our company every day. We have got the markets off on its back feet today. We had a very good day in the market yesterday. Palantir, stock of the year so far, it was up 25% yesterday. It was the stock I named as my highest conviction pick for 2025 when I visited the NASDAQ several weeks ago and it certainly had a big day yesterday as did spotify wow those two stocks have turned into monster stocks uh you know we follow monster trucks and see uh you know all of these uh what are some of the names there i haven’t been for a while with my grandchildren but uh
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You had Bigfoot. Obviously, you had a Bigfoot, the original, right? Yeah, Megasaurus. And they only got bigger from there.
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Yes. Now, NVIDIA was the stock of the last couple of years, and now it’s turned into Palantir. And Spotify has certainly become a huge player here in the media space. Kind of overcoming all odds. I mean, it’s almost like trying to get an electric vehicle company to be profitable. It took Elon Musk to do that. And the subscription model of content.
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Of music and content. I mean, think about most of the Internet, at least initially, right? Early on was pirating music, right? Using the Internet essentially as basically a tool for free music, and they’ve figured out a way over the years to monetize it, and they showed up with their first… First annual profit that the company’s had in its history. And those are the catalysts that will kind of move stocks to actually have positive earnings for a year or what have you and free cash flow. And then there was a time where Netflix wasn’t very profitable either. And then they were.
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When they crossed that line. It should also be noted that gold hit a new all-time high yesterday. It’s closing in on $3,000 right now very quietly. It hit $2,896. And, you know, the tariff story.
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In doing so, why the U.S. dollar has gone up. So, I mean, that’s always the interesting thing about gold. There’s so many cross-currents. just to like, you know, if someone was building a gold valuation model, and, you know, usually dollar goes up, it tends to mean, you know, gold usually goes in the opposite direction. In this sense, they’ve been moving in the same direction, which is pretty interesting.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the tariff thing has moved to the back burner at least for 30 more days, other than China, which obviously is still a problem. China doesn’t seem to have a whole lot of leverage over us, though. We can get those rare earth minerals from other places. I guess the companies that are dependent on China are your Home Depots and your Walmarts, etc. And where we’re at…
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Where we’re at in the kind of economic cycle, right, I mean, essentially at this point, China’s economy, economic growth, right, at least currently, is kind of their weak spot. So they don’t have, you know, from an economic leverage standpoint, right, they kind of need… Some of this growth, right? They almost need American companies to help inside and help increase production. They’re in a tight spot. Not as tight as Europe, though. It’ll be interesting to see how Europe plays out. That’s kind of the next shoe to drop, in my mind, when it comes to tariffs. Absolutely.
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So anyways, you know, the tariff talk, it’s turned to earnings now. That’s the headlines. 20,000 federal workers accepted the resignation offer. That’s 1% of the federal government workforce. That’s a good start, I suppose you could say. No, you know, look, hey, everybody, postal workers, law enforcement employees, et cetera. But 2,000 did accept that buyout offer. Okay, the private sector employment rose by 183,000, which is pretty good for January. And I’m surprised that interest rates are down. I don’t know if it has any reflection on the – this is a pretty hot report, actually. And, of course, this is probably Trump’s first report that you can say, well, he had a little bit to do with this. But that’s a pretty strong private payroll. Now, we’ll get the big non-farm payroll report on Friday.
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On Friday, right. And also, I think it has to do, I saw some news came out in terms of Besant was going to, Treasury Secretary was going to keep kind of the long-term debt issuance program in place that was already in place. So in other words, issuance wasn’t going to go up, because if long-term issuance would have gone up, that would have sent long-term rates higher. In this sense, I think he’s going to stay to a similar schedule. There’s other things you can do within there to do other things. Other debt raising, but in this sense, basically not going to be more issuance, which is what the market liked, and I think that’s why we’ve got down eight basis points. I know. That’s pretty good. We’re pretty far below 4.5% right now.
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It’s too bad we have these weak earnings, but it is showing up in the Russell 2000, which is very interest rate sensitive. It’ll be interesting as I go through my charts today, about 1,000, I think, on tap. To see the interest rate-sensitive things, the mortgage REITs, et cetera, I’m sure they’re having a pretty good day on this big drop in interest rates today. The U.S. trade deficit widens more than expected in December, and it will be interesting to see if Trump can narrow that deficit. We were at $98 billion in December. That’s a big number. That’s a big trade deficit. And obviously that’s one of the things that gets under President Trump’s skin and one of the things that he’s going after to narrow that deficit. We’ve had earnings, which we’ll get to from Google so far. AMD has reported in. And a few others, Chipotle. Today we’re going to get Ford. You know what? I mean, that’s not like a big market mover anymore. We’ve already gotten Disney. I’ll be telling you about that one. Qualcomm will come in after the close. Uber has reported. And Toyota has also reported. Tomorrow we’ll get Amazon. That will be the big one for tomorrow. And also Lilly. And I did see that Novo Nordisk reported today. So that obviously impacts Lilly. And Novo had some interesting comments. Or people watching Novo Nordisk had some interesting commentary that I want to get to here in a bit. So we’ve got a lot of earnings to go through today. There’s some good news out there on several stocks. And then, of course, the NASDAQ kind of taking it on the chin. AMD, man, that stock has really lost its way for now. And I’m glad I sold it. We sold it quite a while ago, maybe a year ago, something like that. I’ve been tempted to get back into it, but I’m glad I’ve resisted that temptation. We’ll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today’s Best Docs Now show. I had to laugh. Barry sent me a screenshot of CNBC. Were you watching CNBC, trying to get some hot tips? It was on in the background.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, all right. And I saw it on the screen. I figured you would like it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it said, picks for your portfolio. And they were interviewing some money manager, and he was touting Johnson & Johnson. and uh that’s all i can say you know comcast stock continues to hit new lows and uh anyways i mean that’s just we celebrate mediocrity it seems like uh in in our industry from time to time i think the majority celebrates i kind of felt sorry for him because i’m like it’s i gotta be hard to tout that one on on tv i don’t know but the listening audience you know i the the listening audience of There’s a lot of professionals that watch it and everything, but I think there’s a lot of just do-it-yourselfers that don’t know any better, just like Seeking Alpha with the high-dividend stuff. If they think they’re getting a hot tip in Johnson & Johnson, run out and add that to your portfolio. I mean, that’s just kind of the way they work. Now, I’m just going to warn you, Barry, you’re headed to the NASDAQ to help close the NASDAQ on Monday. And CNBC is housed. They are in that NASDAQ building. Right there, huh? Be careful. I mean, they’re looking for us. They’re coming after us if they find us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, the first talk I want to talk about today… I just hope it’s not another manic Monday. I just want it to be a quiet Monday. We’ll see what happens.
SPEAKER 04 :
The first talk I want to talk about today is a small one that doesn’t make a lot of news, and it is not headquartered in the USA. It’s in Brazil. It’s a company that we own in our emerging growth portfolio because it is a very small cap stock. It’s only $8.1 billion, which is peanuts in today’s $3.7 trillion world stock. But Embraer, ERJ, has its niche, okay? And if I’m not mistaken, was not the plane that got hit that went down in Washington, D.C.? I think that was an Embraer because that’s their niche that they have is those regional airplanes, right? And I want to say… It was an Embraer plane. I heard them talking about CRJ.
SPEAKER 03 :
I believe it was, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, exactly. But the stock, I mean, obviously, Embraer had nothing to do with the issue. If anything, it sounds… At the end of the day, it was the helicopter’s fault. But we’ll still see.
SPEAKER 03 :
But Embraer gets… Yeah, or just an air traffic, or just too much congestion all at that period. I mean, in terms of, you know, if you think of a pilot to tell me it’s just like a road, essentially, right? And the road seemed crowded.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and the other niche that they have is the Embraer Executive Jets. which includes the Praetor 600, the Praetor 500, the Phenom 3000E models, as well as services and support. They got an order, a pretty good order, a $7 billion order from FlexJet. I think the way FlexJet works is you can own a share of a private jet and share it with other CEOs or company owners or whatever. You know what? I mean, I see a lot of them at the Charleston Airport. I think there’s a lot of businessmen flying around the country in their own little private jets or a shared private jet. That’s a pretty good little niche to have.
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Yeah. I’ve seen that pick up at the Mount Pleasant Airport, right? Really? Right on the other side of you. I did not know.
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That small one there. I thought that was only for like little sesames and whatnot. So when Brayer stock is breaking out today to a new all-time high, it’s up 11.5%. So that puts a smile on my face. You know, we own it in our emerging growth portfolio, which is the smaller companies like this. This is not a Boeing. This is not an AirJet. This is Embraer ADR, and they’ve been a very successful company over the years. This was a $3 stock in 2020 during COVID, and now it’s a $44 stock. So congratulations to Embraer for getting a big order. And they’re in a nice little space, really, in the aerospace industry. Okay, one going the other way. We’ve owned it in the past. We don’t own it currently. Workday. A lot of people aren’t going to have any more workdays with Workday. They’re headquartered in Pleasanton, California. And our show is heard every weekday on KDAO out there, which has been around a long time. We have a big following in the Bay Area. And maybe someday we’ll get back out to the Bay Area. I used to visit there quite often. And do some kind of a workshop or something. And we’re trying to put something on that. We’re trying to put together our road trip calendar. Road trip calendar, right? Yes. And a lot of people in our company saying let’s go out and see our listeners and clients and followers and live trading subscribers, et cetera, out in the Bay Area. One of my favorite places to go. My second favorite restaurant in America is the Tadditch Grill. I think it’s still there. It’s been there since the 1890s or something like that, but that’s a great place. But Workday is laying off 1,750 people to streamline their business. And what happens when you lay off people? The stock’s up 2.9% today. Workday has kind of been stuck for a while in that 270 area. The 300 can’t really get out of there. The growth has slowed a bit, but it’s still a high teen. You know, 17%, 18% grower on sales, and it’s a 20% grower still in earnings. It’s a good company. But it hasn’t had much momentum lately. In fact, if you look at the momentum grade on IBD or Marketsmith, it’s 61 on a scale of 1 to 99. And it’s not showing up in any of my screens right now, but they’re taking action. That’s what good companies do. They’ve got to take action to keep costs in line. Now, here’s the weird story of the day. Europe is worried about Wegovy. and Novo Nordisk because they’re not meeting their carbon emissions goals. It takes a little bit of energy to produce the Wagovi compound that the people shoot into their stomach. Are we more worried about the environment or the people that actually have better health, right, by losing weight from a Gobi? Right. I don’t know.
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I mean, you’ve got to take… It seems like they should get some kind of carbon credit, right, maybe? I don’t know. I mean, if they’re… Put it this way, I wonder if they get credit for the fact that they’re reducing appetites. Well, then they’re reducing the amount of cows and chickens. They don’t like farming already.
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And the people on Wagofi are releasing less emissions into the atmosphere themselves by losing the weight. We’ll be right back. We’ll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today’s Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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and welcome back here to the second half of today’s best stocks now show today’s one of those days where despite the indexes you’ve got the dow down 183 the nasdaq down 103 they really look
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better underneath the surface when I look at the individual stocks. The NASDAQ is being influenced heavily by Google and AMD. And yeah, those are the two really driving down the NASDAQ. And the Dow is down 182. But underneath the surface, like I say, the small caps are up 30, 40, 56 basis points right now because interest rates are down 8%. So the market really looks a lot better underneath the surface. Now, I want to dig into Novo Nordisk very quickly here. We had a big position in Novo Nordisk because it’s the other competitor. Their weight loss drug is Wegovy and it competes with Lily’s ZepBound. And we finally, we got rid of half of our Novo Nordisk in September of last year when it was up around 130 or so. And then we sold all the remaining one half when it was around 110 or so. Now it’s at 87. So we did the right thing, and we have not got back into the stock. I really don’t know why it’s struggling. Although, I mean, they had maybe hit peak earnings in 2024 when they made $22 per share. Then they took a big hit. to their earnings for several reasons, but I still think they’ve got a blockbuster drug with their Wagovi. And this quarter that they reported, their sales were up 22% year over year. They did $11 billion in sales for the quarter. Not all of that was Wagovi. They also are probably the biggest diabetes drug company in the world. And they had a 21% increase in earnings. And I think, like Lily, they were hurt by the knockoffs, the compounders, which they’re still out there. I’m surprised that they’re still getting away. I’ve watched him. He’s been a very strong stock. Yeah, and Rowe. I think Rowe is selling the real thing, though, Zep Bound or Wegovy. But there are still compounders out there. Novo Nordisk, the valuation still looks good. I have 96% upside potential. But the momentum is terrible. It’s been terrible since last fall. I’m glad I sold it, stepped aside. I do think it’s one I’d be very interested in getting back into. Maybe this is the turning of the corner today. After reporting earnings, the stock is up 5.1% on two times normal volume. 4.8 million shares have changed hands so far. So, yeah, you know what? And I think it qualifies for our dividend portfolio because it pays a dividend. of 2.2%. So, I mean, it’s a monster company, Danish out of Denmark. And I would be looking to get into it possibly at some point in time. But it lacks momentum big time. It hit a new 52-week low just two weeks ago. So we’ll see. This could be one that is kind of a bottom fishing candidate at this level. on Novo Nordisk. Now, okay, the big one really influencing the market today, we don’t have a big position in Alphabet, but we do own it in our dividend portfolio, which isn’t as big as our growth portfolios. But we do have, Google is one of the 18 or 19 stocks in that dividend portfolio. Alphabet is down 8.4% right now, 8.4%. I think it’s still one of the magnificent seven. I don’t know. Those components change. Maybe Palantir has replaced it. I don’t know. But Alphabet came along with earnings of $2.15. They beat by 2%. And their revenue beat by $170 million. And if you look at the percentage, if we put that into percentages, this is pretty good. I mean, for a $2.3 billion company, usually by that time, they’re upping their dividend and their earnings growth has slowed to single digits, right? Not with Alphabet. Alphabet’s sales were up 12%. Okay, now… Sequentially, Alphabet’s been coming in at about 15% growth in sales, and this was 12%. So I can see why there’s some deceleration there in sales growth. But their earnings growth was 32%. They made $2.13, which compares to $1.61 last year. And Alphabet will be one of those companies that is contributing to the 13% growth we’re expecting for the entire quarter in the S&P 500 versus the same quarter last year. And obviously with Google at 32% growth, comparable quarter over comparable quarter, that’s a lot more than the S&P 500. But they obviously, you know, the analysts, they dig into the margins. They dig into YouTube sales, et cetera. It was a strong quarter driven by AI leadership, which I question. I don’t think they are. I think Microsoft is the AI leadership these days. And broad momentum, said CEO Sundar Pichai. In search, advances like AI overviews and Circle, adding that to search is increasing their user engagement. Their AI-powered Google Cloud portfolio is seeing stronger customer demand. Together, cloud and YouTube exited 2024 at an annual revenue run rate of $110 billion. But at the end of the day, you know, obviously it was a bit of a disappointment. And that’s why you’re seeing the stock down 8.5% right now. And it is a big component. I mean, at $2.3 billion, that’s a big component. It’s not in the Dow. It is in the big component of the NASDAQ and obviously the S&P 500. So, yeah, you know, I’ll have to revisit it. Now, let’s remember yesterday, Google hit a new all-time high. And it had lots of momentum. It’s not the cheapest stock out there. It has about 75% to 80% upside potential as of yesterday. It pays a dividend. But it is down today off of that new all-time high that it set yesterday. So we’ll continue to watch Google. And, you know, we’re always checking to see if we need to upgrade that position to another stock out there. But it’s pretty hard to not… Look at Google and say it’s one of the powerhouse stocks in the market today. Now, AMD is another case. What is wrong with AMD, Barry?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, it’s all about the data center. I mean, if you look at the company, right, the one piece that they’re still the same AMD they were three years ago is probably the right answer.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s probably it in a nutshell. Well, their data center revenue missed expectations, okay? And, you know, that’s not good because that’s where the growth is. Citigroup downgraded AMD stock. That’s where NVIDIA is destroying the market, right? Absolutely. And so, anyways, I mean, they have really – this is a pretty big downgrade – And a pretty big miss by AMD. That stock is down 10% right now. But even worse than that, we sold it quite a while ago. I’m saying at least a year ago. Or maybe early last year. I’d have to look at the records here. Let’s see, I can probably find that pretty easily. But anyways, we walked away from AMD. We had huge gains in the stock when we walked away from it. I didn’t like the way it was trading. And, you know, along came NVIDIA and Microsoft with the chat GPT. And all of a sudden, everybody’s watching, well, where are you with AI over here at AMD? Where are you with the data center, you know, share? And they really were mostly dependent upon PC sales still. But having said that, this would be one also that I would be interested in getting back into at some point because the valuation has certainly come down. Their sales were up 24%. Their earnings were up 42%. That’s a pretty good quarter. But obviously, it did not meet expectations because the stock is down 10%. and hitting a new 52-week low. Let’s wait for the momentum to come back and the new products to come back into AMD. We’ll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today’s Best Docs Now show.
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And you know what? Like I say, it looks a lot better underneath the surface of the market. We’re actually up 27 basis points today. And I’ll tell you who’s having a good day. NVIDIA is having a good day. It’s up 3.2% right now.
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That’s offsetting that Google number in dividend and growth.
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I’m wondering if NVIDIA is benefiting from the AMD because they’re obviously the one that have eaten AMD’s lunch. And, of course, AMD ate Intel’s lunch over the last 10 years. So now NVIDIA has emerged as the new king of the chips. Arista is having a good day. Oklo is up 7.4% today. That’s a little powerhouse, that little Oklo. That’s been one. If you’ve been in with us on the four-week trial, Oklo has come up several times. It started out in the incubator account. I’m the one that, you know, took the chances out there because it was like, you know, this thing doesn’t have any sales or earnings yet. It’s a smaller nuclear power plant type of stock that wants to be a big player in that, a wannabe. And eventually I added it to the emerging growth portfolio, and then recently we added it to the ultra-growth portfolio just because of this renaissance taking place in the nuclear sector. So Oclo having a very good day today, up 7.4%. So like I say, underneath the surface of the market. Now, unfortunately, from time to time, I’ve got to go to a soggy stock just to show you what a soggy stock looks like. And I’ll bet they spend half the day on CNBC today. Guess what stock they’ll be talking about ad nauseum? Disney. Okay, now I would argue, I was thinking about this the other day. We recently went on a Disney cruise out of Port Canaveral, Florida with a bunch of kids and grandkids. Okay, we had a great time. I would argue that Disney’s probably the best brand. I was thinking about this. I grew up in the advertising industry. My father got his paycheck in the last days of his career from Leo Burnett Advertising, which came up with some of the greatest brands of all time, including Marlboro. I would argue that that Disney, that Mickey Mouse logo and that Disney name, I don’t care what it’s on. You’re going to pay a lot more if it has the Disney logo on it. But somewhere along the way, obviously, you can have your own opinions as to why Disney lost its way. An investment in Disney over the last 10 years, you think you’re buying this great stock for your grandkids, right? 2.7% per year. That’s including the dividend, everything. Average annual return, 2.7. Over the last 10 years, the S&P’s averaged 19.5. And don’t forget, Disney is a big component of the Dow. So it hasn’t helped the Dow any, and it’s helped the Dow be quite a big laggard compared to the NASDAQ and to the S&P 500. You know, the Dow has tried to get a little more creative in recent years. They kicked CVS out finally and put Amazon in. They kicked Intel out and put NVIDIA in. But I would argue that there’s still several very soggy stocks. Disney would be one of them. I would replace Disney with Netflix. There’s your leisure company, your leisure streaming killer in today’s world. Over the last five years, an investment in Disney has lost 4% per year.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, Barry, how many of these… Who was it you spoke into the Dow? Was it AMD? No, I know. Amazon, I believe. I remember when they got rid of Walgreens.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Walgreens. That was it. They kicked Walgreens out, which is now nearing bankruptcy. They replaced it with, finally, Amazon, which I had been talking about for years. Disney, and how many pension funds, IRAs, Roths, mutual funds own Disney? Oh, man, you’ve got to own Disney. How can you not own Disney with that brand? Well, they’ve taken a big brand, probably the best brand of all time, and tarnished it. Over the last three years, an investment in Disney down 6.4% per year. That’s right. And over the last 12 months, it has done a little better. It’s up 17%, but the S&P is up 22%. It gets a D minus performance grade. The valuation is not very compelling at all. In fact, if I look at my current five-year valuation on Disney, now these are the things underneath the surface that the average person doesn’t realize. They think when they’re buying Disney shares, they’re getting a piece of that ticket price and a piece of how much all those souvenirs cost and how much a corn dog cost. And a special place in line at Disney and all the blockbuster movies they come out with. Well, you may be getting a piece of it, but it’s not very good because look at how the stock has performed. I have my five-year target price, 162. That gives it 47% upside potential over the next five years. And a value grade of F. F. I require 80% or more upside potential, and we’ve got about 2,000 listeners running to the phone right now to scream at their broker for owning Disney for the last 10 years. No, I don’t know. I’m just giving you the facts. I’m giving you the numbers, and, boy, I used up all my time on Disney, but I’m glad I did because it’s a perfect example. You’ve got to put it in the same category as Johnson & Johnson, Climberley-Clark, Procter & Gamble, Disney is definitely soggy. A stodgy old growth giant of yesteryear. And it’s really kind of pathetic when you think about the strength. of their brand, and the kids that love Disney, and the stock is not performing near to the potential that that brand has worldwide, a worldwide brand, and lousy performance as a stock. That’s really… Kind of pitiful, really, when you think about it. Okay, well, we’re out of time. We call the show Best Stocks Now. Not the ones you might think are the best stocks now. Maybe they were at one time, but time has passed them by. Or management has made a lot of missteps along the way. Get four free weeks of the live trading. Learn a lot about the market in those four weeks. That’s intense. In those messages I send out, go to GundersenCapital.com. Talk to us about managing your portfolio. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
