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Join Kim Munson as she delves into the depths of history with Dennis Bush, author of The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach. Together, they explore the intricate dynamics and the sheer courage displayed at Omaha Beach during D-Day, highlighting the incredible acts of bravery by American soldiers. Discover the stories of lesser-known heroes whose actions were pivotal in one of the most significant battles of World War II. Through engaging dialogue, the episode uncovers layers of strategic maneuvers, unexpected challenges, and the drive for freedom that defined the soldiers on that day. Dennis Bush paints a vivid picture of
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Indeed, and welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. I get to work with an amazing group of people, and that’s producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa. and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Be sure and check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. And we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we do want to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas. And we have prerecorded very special shows with very special guests for this Christmas week. And I’m pleased to have in. studio with me, Dennis Bush. He is the author of a book, The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach. And Dennis Bush, I had the great honor in 2016 to go to Normandy and stand on Omaha Beach and realize it was sacred ground. So this book that you’ve written is so important. So tell us, why did you write the book?
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Okay. Well, I am a proud, unashamed patriot of the United States of America. I revere this country and its history in spite of some very dark chapters. But that’s just the nature of history. No group of people is without sin in their past. It is just part of the enigma of the creature we so narcissistically call wise human or homo sapiens. Over the past many years, I have sensed a waning in patriotism in our country. When I heard a president of the United States declare that America was never exceptional, I knew that I had to step up and do something. To borrow on another theme, I had to do my part to make America proud again. So I wrote what turned out to be a trilogy of books on the story of what actually happened in early June of 1944 in the battle for Omaha Beach as part of D-Day. Once you understand this story in its entirety and accuracy, you will see that the battle is a microcosm that screams to the heavens. It is the people of America, the men and women, that make this nation the epitome of exceptionalism.
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So, Dennis Bush, when I was in Normandy, one of the things that I realized in some stories is, first of all, our veterans are revered in Normandy, even to this day, because they liberated people that were under oppression. And what an American… What an American thing that these men would put their lives on the line to liberate people that they didn’t even know. It’s something that is inherently American. So set the stage for us. Okay.
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Okay. Well, I’ve got to draw a visual map for you. The Omaha Beach is an inward arc of shoreline about five kilometers or three miles across in Normandy, France. As there is such a tremendous advantage it provides then for the defense, you’ve got crossfire and you’ve got the enemy kind of pinned in. It’s always best to be in that defense in that situation. There are steep cliffs at each end, and there was a wide, flat beach covered in sand and a sea of man-made obstacles that once you crossed, you encountered a steep slope up to the Normandy Plateau where the primary German fortifications were strategically placed, the military high ground. The slope was steep. Vehicles could not make the climb. Even jeeps, which can climb trees, couldn’t do it. But trained, in-shape soldiers could. But it was an arduous, slow track, and under heavy fire, it is difficult to imagine how any man made it, let alone the thousands that eventually did. So the Omaha Beach battlefield itself worked heavily in the favor of the Nazis. It certainly posed to the Americans assigned to liberate it a tremendous challenge.
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Well, Dennis, I ask why we attacked there. But ultimately, as we were getting ready for this interview, you said that the Allies needed to get a port, but they didn’t want to attack directly on the port. So this is why this decision was made for the different beaches in Normandy.
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That’s correct. The obvious, the Germans thought that we were going to attack at the narrowest point between England and France, which is a place called Pas-de-Calais. And in a clear day, which is rare, you can actually see the cliffs of Dover from France. So it’s a very narrow distance. But the problem is the Germans figured that out, too, and it was extremely heavily fortified. And so the American planners knew that they had to go somewhere else. And one of the things I’m researching for my next trilogy is why did we have to go into France? If you look at a map, Belgium seems to be the place we should have attacked, but I haven’t been able to really discern that. But once you decide that you’re not going to the Pot of Clay, the next best place is down around the Normandy area because you needed a wide front. Okay. 50 miles is what they wanted. Montgomery said if you can’t launch a 50-mile front, I want no part of it. And so you’ve got to have a lot of area, and you have to have suitable, you know, You have to have an area where you can get inland and can’t be trapped. And so that’s why the SHAPE, Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force, that’s why their planners decided that the best course of action was to attack at Normandy. And Utah Beach, Omaha Beach were the American beaches, were soared. And gold were the British beaches, and Juneau was the Canadian beach. So you had this 50-mile front. Wow. So it was just picked basically because of geography and necessity. Wow.
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Well, Omaha ended up being known as Bloody Omaha because of all the beaches.
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Well, we can talk about that.
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Yeah, let’s talk about that. But what would you say was the primary element that made this acceptable place? I guess you kind of explained that already, though, right?
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Well, no, not really, because you have this steep slope. But you can’t get vehicles up it. And if you can’t get vehicles off the beach, you can’t win the battle. You got to get tanks. You got to get trucks. You got to get half tracks, all these weapons of war. You have to get them up into the battle. But the primary element was the fact that there were four stream beds. that ran down from the top of the plateau to the beaches below and over millions of years of erosion created shallow sloped passages from the normandy plateau down to the shoreline there was even a road of sorts through each Omaha Beach, before the war, was a resort area. And so there were lots of cottages and things actually down on the beach that the Germans had pretty much destroyed, but they were there. At least one of these gas stations gulches had to be captured as soon as possible and in order to get the machines of war off the beach and into the battle and it could not like i said could not be won until we did that but in essence these draws posed an enormous deadly temptation that we should have been smart enough to see the danger they posed so what was that Well, the Germans figured this is too. And so that’s where they put all their heaviest fortifications, on each side of the draw at the point where at the top of the slope. And so there was an enormous trap, if you think about it, with the Widerstand. These were called Widerstand nests or resistance nests. And they contained every manner of killing device or implement available. We’ll talk about it in a minute here, about how big these were. Everything was interconnected with trenches, and so the defenders could move from place to place with good cover. It was, in essence, a series of traps with the draws as the bait and the Widerstahn nests as the jaws poised to snap shut. Rommel was not given much time or adequate resources to build an impregnable defense on Omaha Beach, but he did manage to install eight major gun emplacements of 75 millimeters or more, larger, which are yay big, right? And Rommel was the German commander, right? Right. He was the—well, he was— By far the best tactical commander the Germans had. He was known as the Desert Fox because he ran the British all around Africa, which he was most known for. But he was assigned in late 1943 to command the defenses of the Atlantic coast, Normandy just being one of those. But he built not only the 75, the eight major gun emplacements, he built 35 other concrete bunkers with smaller caliber artillery and lots and lots of mortars, machine guns, and flamethrowers in what were called Tobruks, which are just basically a concrete foxhole.
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And when I was in Normandy, you can go into those and you can see them. Yeah.
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They’re still there. I mean, they’re three feet of reinforced concrete. But anyway, he was very cleverly that when you see the pictures, they show the guns pointing out to sea. But Rommel was much more clever than that. He actually pointed the guns on Omaha Beach up or down the beach. so that they were aimed at soldiers trying to cross the beach, not the ships in the channel. But as a result, the Navy couldn’t see them. And so when they attempted to bombard them, they missed because they had really no idea of where they were. I mean, they had them on a map. But once it’s on a map, how do you translate that to where you’re shooting? So anyway, it worked against, or again, the guys on the beach, as almost everything seemed to conspire against them. I would say that that was the deadliest three miles in the world at that time. And as expected, the landing craft who beached in front of those draws sustained the highest casualties.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues. Through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And wishing you all a very Merry Christmas. And for this Christmas week, we have prerecorded very special shows with very special guests. And I’m talking with Dennis Bush. He has written a trilogy of books. about the World War II battle on Omaha Beach. And the first book is published. It’s called The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach. And really, I think everybody should have this book in their freedom library because you talk about some individuals who we don’t know that much about. But Omaha is known as Bloody Omaha because it was very lethal, right?
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Yes. Well, and it wasn’t just the Germans that made it lethal. There were other issues that had an immense impact on the horrendous cost, and these were self-imposed by the leadership and planning of the Allied forces. Doesn’t make sense. I was hoping I could go into these areas in more detail, but I simply don’t have that much time, so I will just list some of them here. If you want more detail, I do that in the first book of the trilogy on sale now. Okay. Sorry for the plug.
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Okay.
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These errors are most disturbing to me because they should have been addressed by the extensive planning that went into the operation, and it is very difficult to understand why things happened as they did. One, at the top of the list is the inexplicable failure of the Air Corps and the Navy to effectively eliminate or otherwise severely damage the German defensive positions prior to the attack. Their efforts were massive. 2.3 million pounds of explosives were dropped by the 8th Air Force prior to the battle. Wow. And they all missed for reasons that just astound me. It’s such that if they had done nothing in their pre-bombardment, and this includes the Navy, nothing would have changed. These powerful forces were in effect a no-show on Omaha Beach on D-Day. Two, one of the great and inexcusable factors that was not taken into account in the planning was the strong, totally predictable easterly current that was set up by the incoming tide. This drastically affected where every landing craft was planned to land versus where they actually did. They spent weeks studying the maps and they had sand tables and aerial photographs of where they were going to land and what was there. But none of them virtually landed where they were supposed to. And they were off, because of this current, they were off as much as a mile. Wow. And you can imagine the confusion that caused these poor guys. Three, both types of personnel landing craft in the first wave had a maximum capacity of 36 troops. Well, the standard platoon size at that time was 40 to 50 men. This is what’s called an inexcusable error in engineering. I mean, so they couldn’t even board an entire platoon on a landing craft. They had to break them up into pieces. They called these… boat sections. So the Army, in fact, had to reorganize before the battle. And then after the beach was secured, the plan was to go back to their normal structure of platoons. But you can imagine the confusion that that creates. Something that a lot of people don’t know is that a large number of tanks, you know, the big machines with the guns on them, was supposed to be landed with the first wave of But the implementation of this was so incompetent that the effect was virtually nil, leaving the infantry to basically fend for themselves. And most of the tanks and the crews lie on the bottom of the channel to this day. Many still contain their crews.
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I did not know that.
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Yeah, most people don’t. That’s one of the things, like I said, I had a fairly large section prepared to explain that. The question is, how do you get a tank from a boat to the shore? Well, they built these really elaborate contraptions where they erected a canvas screen on the deck of the tanks. The principle is very simple. It’s Archimedes’ principle. You can float something as big as a tank if you offset enough water. And so the tanks were actually underwater, but this skirt was above water. Well, the problem was you could only do this on calm seas. And Normandy on D-Day was anything but calm. And if enough water splashed over the top of this screen, the tank sank. And out of—let me just look at my notes here— out of the 119 tanks that were launched to the shore, 63 of them sank to the bottom of the Seenglish Channel.
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Oh, my gosh.
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And the few that did make it to shore, because the Army Air Corps and the Navy had not eliminated the German positions, they were fair game for these big guns.
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Right.
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So very few of these tanks survived the day. The reason most people have never heard of it is this information was classified until the mid-’60s.
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Huh.
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And you can imagine why. Right. Anyway, those are things that also exacerbated the problem for the ground troops. I think it’s only proper to understand what they did in spite of all of this. All of these failures did not cause the operation to fail. So what bailed it out? American G.I.s.
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It takes my breath away, Dennis Bush. And that’s why these books are so important. And so you have, in these books, you have, you tell the stories of men whose most people haven’t ever heard their names. Yeah. So where do you want to start?
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Well, I call it the real heroes, and it’s based around about 12 men. 35,000 men actually landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day. But you can actually attribute the victory to about a dozen guys who stood up. And the amazing thing about this is that they ranged from sergeants to generals. Virtually every rank you can name were some of these heroes. But they stood above the rest. Now, there are obviously many, many more heroes. I mean, virtually any of the 35,000 had to be considered a hero. But these guys were significant. And when you understand what they did, you will feel just like I did. I was absolutely astonished at what they had done. Well, so who do you want to start with? Well, let’s start with Lieutenant Jimmy Monteith. Monteith was a boat section commander in Love Company, which is L, of the 16th Infantry Regiment as part of the 1st Infantry Division. Okay. Let’s start with him because he is the subject. He is in this first book because the first book is about the eastern half of Omaha Beach, which is under the direction of the 1st Infantry Division. Book two is about the western half of the beach, and book three is about Pointe du Hoc. Okay. And they’re all written. They’re done. I’m just waiting for publishing.
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Yeah, so the first one’s published, and it was published this last October.
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Yeah. Okay. uh and it’s now in the if you’ve ever published a book it takes forever uh and it’s now in the sales marketing phase of the the publisher so uh i i just moved on i mean i finished these books back in 23 uh and i’m now writing another trilogy about utah beach so that’s what i’m doing uh Love Company was in the 3rd Battalion of the 16th Infantry Regiment of the 1st Infantry Division under the command of Captain John Armellino aboard six British LCAs. Thanks to the unexpected current, they landed between 0650 and 0700 hours. They were 20 minutes late. Worse, they landed on Fox Red Beach, some 800 meters east of where they were supposed to, and as such were confronted with a very different situation than expected or planned. They were directly in front of the formidable Widerstawn nest, WN-60, and right next to the K-Board draw. Now, remember, these Widerstad nests were major guns and minor guns, big and small guns, lots of machine guns, this thing called an MG-42, flamethrowers, mortars. They were heavily armed. Wow. Okay, and our guys were basically carrying rifles. Some of them had what’s called a BAR. Right. They had a weapon called a bazooka, which we’ll get into a little later. But fundamentally, light warms. We didn’t have artillery on the beach. We didn’t have aircraft strafing like they would do now. They were not doing that during this. So these guys were on their own. Yeah. In getting across the beach, only about 55 men out of the original 235 men made it across that beach in such a condition as to continue their mission. At the end of the beach, they found sanctuary of a cliff about 10 meters high. It provided temporary respite from the German position directly above them. There, the medics could work on the many wounded with some sanctuary. Regardless of the horrible casualties initially and suffered, Armalino was intent on getting atop the plateau, take out WN-60, and then move south to assault the villages beyond. But he was seriously wounded trying to get tank support. Lieutenant Jimmy Monteith took his place, helping the two tanks engage the enemy, while Armalino fought for his life. He lost his leg. Lieutenant Cutler, the senior lieutenant, assumed command of what was left of Love Company. He split his small force in two and sent half to the east to flank the German Widerstand nest, and the rest went to the west up the Cape or draw to do the same. the two groups met in the rear and took out the formidable German fortress from there. And so doing, they not only eliminated one of the German Widerstand nests, its complement of big and small guns and men, but also eliminated a critical spotter position that had a total view of Omaha Beach and was in direct contact with several artillery units in the rear. And so they blinded them. So now the German artillery was firing blind. They also created, in effect, the eastern flank of the American assault. Fortunately, they only suffered one dead and a few minor wounded in the attack. It’s a big difference when you assault a strong position from the rear rather than the front. Incredibly, This all occurred before 9 a.m.
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And also the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk, does several things. One of those is they honor our Medal of Honor recipients. And it was co-founded by Drew Dix, a Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War, and Brad Padula, an Emmy Award winning documentary maker. And Drew and Brad realized that we need to honor these stories. We need to instill in ourselves these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So be sure and check out the website. That is AmericanValuesCenter.org, AmericanValuesCenter.org. And we have prerecorded these shows for Christmas week with amazing guests, amazing subjects. I’m talking with author of The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach, which was a World War II battle, Dennis Bush. And we were talking about Lieutenant Jimmy Monteith. And where did he grow up?
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He grew up in Virginia. The thing that’s amazing about these heroes is because they’re mostly just average people. They didn’t come from wealth, in most cases. They didn’t come from privilege. They’re just sons, mostly, of normal American families who, on the worst day of their life, behaved incredibly. And to most of them, after the war, some of them, the ones who did, continued to the war and continued to be of great service, but then they just went back to their life. They didn’t, you know, some of them were… One guy that we may have time to talk about today, he worked in a department store selling men’s suits. It’s remarkable.
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But those stories are of everyday people from the Revolutionary War. We recently talked about Henry Knox in the Revolutionary War that got the cannons from Fort Ticonderoga and helped eliminate the British siege of Boston. And I think he was a bookseller. Yeah. Regular people.
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So tell us more about Jimmy Monteith. Well, remember now, we’re down to 55 men out of what should have been 200. But they’re either dead or wounded back on the beach. But they took a short break and then immediately headed south to a crossroads where they set up a defensive position. Two patrols were sent out. one to the east to scout the village of La Grande Hamue, pardon my French, the other southwest to scout out the small village of Kaborg. So soon after, the Germans regrouped and attacked the remaining forces of the defensive position, which was probably now down to about 40 men because they had these two patrols out. Greatly outnumbered, the Yanks dug in and returned fire as best they could. The greatest threat was four machine guns that hit them from all points of the compass. Lieutenant Jimmy Monteith set out by himself to eliminate this threat. He succeeded in taking out three of the positions, but was but was cut down by the fourth gun. To take them out, he used what’s called rifle grenades and pineapple grenades. So he had to get real close. So it was amazingly that he was able to take out three. He was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for his valiant efforts. Meanwhile, Love Company finally beat back the German counterattack, and by the morning of the 7th of June, captured the villages of Le Grand Hommeu and Kaborg, as well as a portion of the critical coastal highway. Today, no one seems to care or know about one of the three men to receive the Medal of Honor on Omaha Beach on D-Day.
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Oh, my gosh. And he did not survive the battle?
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No, he was killed. And I think he’s buried there in the cemetery.
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At Normandy?
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Yeah.
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Okay. I just get chills thinking about him. What about our next hero?
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Well, his name is Raymond Strojny, and he was a tech sergeant. And what he did, when I read it, my jaw hit the floor. Let me just read about his exploits. The men of Easy and Fox Companies of the 16th Infantry Regiment of the 1st Infantry Division came ashore for the most part directly in the mouth of the Colville Draw, euphemistically the jaws of the Nazi beast. They were supposed to have landed about 1,500 meters to their west, but again, the strong easterly current and the smoke-shrouded bluffs led their coxswains to land them considerably to the east of where they were intended to be. Unfortunately, this was in the front of German Widerstandnest WN-61 and its powerful 88-millimeter killing machine, along with considerable other firepower. Hmm. In command of the 5th Section of Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 16th Infantry Regiment, was Lieutenant Otto Clemens. Tech Sergeant Raymond Strojny, a decorated veteran of both Africa and Sicily, was his assistant. After only a few minutes on shore, Sergeant Strojny found himself in command of not only the 5th Section, but all of Fox Company as his superiors were all dead. My, okay. He immediately herded what was left of his company to the left and to the top of the beach where they found some cover. From there, he watched in horror as the WN-6188 took out three of the few tanks left on the beach. Incensed, Strogini called for a bazooka team, but none heeded his call, if there were even any left. So he went back down to the beach and scrounged a bazooka. along with four rockets from a badly wounded soldier. Then after crossing through a minefield, he made it back to his former position where he discovered that the bazooka had been pierced by several pieces of shrapnel, making it a weapon as dangerous to him as any target he fired on. It could just as well have blown up in his face rather than launch a rocket at the enemy. Also, the bazooka is normally a crew-served weapon with both a loader and a shooter because you have to keep the rocket tube level while loading, aiming, and firing lest the rocket fall out the front or the back. Oh, boy. Well designed, right? Yeah. But he went ahead and did this with the four rockets he had. The first two rockets missed the target altogether, but the third and fourth round hit the concrete fronted position but did not stop or deter the 88 from firing at the men and vehicles struggling to get across the beach.
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Out of ammunition, Strangene yelled to his men to see if any of them were carrying rockets. Getting no response, he went back down to the beach and secured several more. He then loaded and fired six more rockets at the strong German position, and with the last round hit what was apparently the ammo dump, and after a massive explosion, most of WM-61 went silent, including the 88th. but the position still had teeth and continued to fire at his men, along with any others who came into their sights. Once again, out of rockets, Strogini took up his M1 rifle and began to shoot at the enemy. This next piece is incredible. After a few minutes, he was struck in the helmet by a German bullet just above the left eye. The concussion knocked him back and flat onto the ground. Stunned, but apparently unhurt, he took off and examined his helmet, which had both an entry and an exit hole. But miraculously, the bullet missed him altogether, but rather left just a deep scratch that ran from the front to the back of his head. It didn’t penetrate enough to bleed, but he escaped certain death with no discernible explanation. When he showed this to his men who were nearby and putting up a minimum of resistance, the effect was that it shocked them back into the war and made them ready to take on their adversary. Strojny would then lead the remnants of Fox Company and elements of other rifle companies and attacked and captured the German Widerstand nest. They were aided by two tanks that had survived their swim in the channel and German guns, along with a British destroyer, which came perilously close to shore where it was able to see the German positions. Once WN-61 had been neutralized, Strogeny led his makeshift band to attack up the hill where they reached before noon on D-Day. The tech sergeant was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for his efforts, which seems way too little acknowledgement for his actions. Worse, no one today even knows who he was or anything about what extraordinary things he did on 6 June.
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Until this book, Dennis Bush, The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach. And we will continue the discussion. Before we go to break, I did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation Foundation. And keeping these stories alive, honoring those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives is so important. And so I would really recommend that you make a contribution. It’s tax deductible to the USMC Memorial Foundation. And that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lauren Levy. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at kimmunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the show comes to you because of our great sponsors. And a sponsor that’s been with me since before I was solo is Hooters Restaurants. And they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great place to get together with friends for a happy hour or lunch specials Monday through Friday. And, of course, the place to watch all the bowl games. So, again, that is Hooters Restaurants. In studio with me is Dennis Bush, and we have prerecorded these shows for Christmas week, and very special guests, very special subjects. We’re talking about his book, The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach, and of course, Omaha Beach is known as Bloody Omaha for that battle in World War II. But we’re talking about guys that people don’t really know their names. And we have talked about, let’s see, it was Jimmy Monteith, and then Tech Sergeant Raymond Strogeny. But there’s three others on that, is it the east side of Omaha?
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That I designate as the real heroes.
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In this book one. So who are they?
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Well, Lieutenant John Spalding was a boat section commander. This was his first combat assignment. But they always put an experienced sergeant with the lieutenant. I mean, this was basically a training ground, if you think about it. And the sergeant was a guy by the name of Philip Strissick. And he was extremely experienced, had already been awarded the DSC for actions in Africa. And the lieutenant was smart enough to know that technically he was in command, but he let the sergeant make all the tactical decisions. So it was good. Now, the boat section… They were in Easy Company, but the Easy Company by and large landed right in front of the Colville Draw where they were heavily engaged and took a lot of casualties. But for some reason, his boat did not land there. But it kind of did worse because it hit a sandbar. And so they dropped the door of this LCVP, which was the front end of the boat, and they’re still 200 miles from the shore, 200 yards from the shore. Oh, jeez. And they’re on a sandbar, but beyond the sandbar, the water is deeper than over their heads. So these guys have to tread water to get to shore. With their packs on, right? With a full pack, a rifle. Oh. and other equipment. And it’s a miracle. They helped to help each other because they could all, you know, they fortunately made it, but some of them could have drowned. I mean, they were that heavily carried. So anyway, they hit the shore, and now they’re dead tired. But they’re being shot at, so they got to run as fast as they can. Now, fortunately, only one guy was cut down because they had landed far enough away from these Widerstand nests that the German resistance at the top of the slope was minimal.
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Okay.
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So they got across the beach and lost only one guy, although eight were wounded. They found some ruins of walls that had been there from when I told you the resort area that had been there previous, which gave them a sanctuary. But they could tell that right beyond it, between them and the slope, was a huge minefield. because the Germans put up signs, Ochthund Meinen. And so they knew it was a minefield. But Sergeant Strzic started to reconnoiter the area. And in the meantime, a lot of these guys had lost their rifles swimming to shore. So they scrounged down the beach, again under fire, and found weapons from either wounded or dead soldiers, and then all reformed. Well, Strzic finds a path. up the shore. And if you go to Normandy, this path is very highly publicized on the beach. And then they go up this path and get to the top. Now there they find a machine gun, which they take out, but three men are wounded. The guy that mans the machine gun happens to be a Polish conscript. The Germans, when they captured armies, would give the soldiers an option. You either go to POW camp or you can join the German army. And so this is why on Utah, they ran into Mongols who were captured on the Eastern Front. I did not know that. And in this case, most of the defenders of this area were Polish who had been in the Polish army and were given opportunities to serve in the German army. And because it was better food, obviously, they chose that option.
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Okay.
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Okay. So anyway, Strzic, who is extremely angry because he finds a Polish guy serving in the German army. And, of course, he’s an American. And he interrogates this guy, which I’m assuming he broke a few rules. But he was able to get the information about what was around them in terms of both enemy forces and terrain and things like that. And so they take a break. And in the meantime, the entire company of George, it was a George company, came ashore roughly at the same point. Now, this is a company, which is six boats of men, and they get across the shore again because of light German resistance. The only real casualties was the headquarters boat. which took a direct hit from artillery after the commander, Captain Joseph Dawson, got off. And that entire group of men were killed before they ever got off the boat except for the commander of the company. And Dawson had been a staff officer up to this point. He was basically in command of a company and they knew he was green as could be. And so he knew he had to prove himself to his men. And after this day… They did not question his leadership one bit. So what did he do? Well, he went up the same trail that Strzic and Spalding had gone up. And is he by himself? No, he’s got all the rifle. The only thing that was damaged was the headquarters company. The rest of the boat sections of the guys carrying rifles survived. Okay, so they— headquarter boat though everybody everybody but Dawson was killed okay okay so these guys are following Dawson up the ridge and then he gets up and he meets Spalding and they talk and he says I’m going on to Colville which is a village about a mile further inland that was his assignment for the day and But Spalding says, no, I’m going to take out this German Widerstand nest to our right and then I’ll join you. And so Spalding heads off to Colville, which he attacks about an hour later from the west. And they were told that there were only about 20 Germans in the village. It turns out to be closer to 200. Plus, while they’re fighting for this village, the Germans decide to counterattack, and they use Colville as their initial point of attack. So he’s being hit by a heavily armed force. But his men hold their ground. The villages in Normandy are mostly made of stone, the homes and barns and stuff, which make great fortifications. So his guys were able to hunker down until they got reinforcements. Meanwhile… Spalding and Strzic take out. They’re now in the rear, so they come back and come around to the flank of this entire German Widerstand nest, and they take it out systematically from the flank and the rear, moving down the entire line. And then, of course, they’re greatly outnumbered. They’re only about 22 guys. because they were a boat section, and they lost eight coming across, nine coming across the beach. So there’s only a guy like 22 guys, and they take out this entire German feeder stone nest, capturing 19 and killing an untold number of German soldiers and eliminating all of these guns. And so the guys down on the beach are stunned because all of a sudden they’re getting no fire from the east side of the Colville draw. It just stops. Now, the guys on top have to throw out yellow smoke grenades because the Navy’s shelling the place, and the yellow smoke grenades indicate that the Americans are there. And so they took this. And then he goes back and joins up with Dawson trying to take the village of Colville. Well, they don’t actually participate in taking the village, but they are used as the reinforcements that help take out or stall the German counterattack, which they defeat. And so by the morning of the 7th, Colville falls to Dawson’s men. And both he, Dawson, Strzic, and Spalding are awarded, again, the DSC. Have you ever heard that story?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I’ve never heard it. So these depictions of what these men did is in your book, The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach. And Dennis Bush, I think that in 2024 America, that as we listen to the or read these stories and think about these men, it gives us inspiration as we engage in this great battle of ideas that we are And what I find so amazing is that as fierce as the fighting was on Omaha Beach, by that afternoon or evening, the Allies had a toehold on the European continent. It’s remarkable, and it’s these young men that did it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and what I’m trying to do is highlight the actions of a few men who did extraordinary things on the worst day of their life, right? And that’s what I was trying to do with this book, is tell their stories. So anyway, this is a brief synopsis of the book, the first book in the trilogy, called The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach. We have only discussed here the efforts of five of these men, those that were on the eastern half of the Omaha of the beach. Keep in mind that there were many, many, many more heroes that made Omaha Beach the success it was. But I have selected these few men to illustrate the character, the courage, the ingenuity, the exceptionalism of the American fighting man and now women, Omaha Beach will forever be a testament to these things.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and we’ve got just a couple of minutes left, Dennis. These books, such as yours, are so important. And one of the reasons why is our young people don’t know these stories. And once they start to—there were students with us when we went to Omaha Beach. There was 24 to Normandy. And as these kids are hearing these stories, you can see the light go on. It’s like I want to know more. And so I would really recommend people get the book, read it, and then start to share these stories with children and grandchildren. I think that that can make a big difference for our country. Sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, that’s why I wrote it. I mean, like I said, I’m trying to do my part to make America proud again because this is an exceptional nation, and we are the greatest nation the world has ever seen or probably ever will. And if I can do my part, then I have lived a successful life.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think that you are doing your part, and each of us is called to do our part. Normally, for the regular show, as I greet our listeners, I say that we were made for this moment in history, and I am convinced that that is the case. And we stand on the shoulders of those from the Revolutionary War to the Civil War to World War II, Omaha Beach, and we can take such great inspiration from from these men and women that stood for liberty for all of us and worked to pass that on. So Dennis Bush, I thank you for taking the time to write these books. The first one is for sale right now. You can get it at all the booksellers. It’s The Real Heroes of Omaha Beach by Dennis Bush, and Bush is spelled B-U-S-C-H. So I thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Well, it’s on Amazon, so it’s the easiest way to get it. And just all you have to do is search for my name, Dennis Bush, and you’ll find the book.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Our quote for the end of the show is from Dwight Eisenhower as he is talking with the troops on D-Day. He said, “…the eyes of the world are upon you. The hope and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you as well.” So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Indeed, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And I get to work with an amazing team. That’s producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. The show does broadcast six to eight a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour rebroadcast one to two in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And that’s on all KLZ 560 platforms. That’s KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website and the KLZ app. And then we do post a written summary and a podcast of the show. And the way you find that is go to the website and just click on the image for each date, and that’ll bring that up. And then once that is posted, you can listen to the podcast at all the streaming services, such as iTunes and Spotify. On the line with me is Marlee Hornick. She is one of the co-founders of United Sovereign Americans, who… did amazing work in this last election, and we’re honored that they would include Colorado as one of their states where they filed a lawsuit to basically says, hey, Colorado, you’re not hitting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress for our elections. It’s a civil rights issue. I guess, in a way, just get your act together. Marlee Hornick, welcome to the show. Thanks, Kim. It’s great to be on again. And we were very pleased to be one of the nine states that filed suit before this last election. And my understanding is, I’m just learning about all this legalese stuff, but you kind of get into this ping pong back and forth with the attorneys. And that seems to be the case with these nine lawsuits, yes? Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s correct. We are in a ping pong battle with the government in all nine states. And what each state is asserting is that basically the arguments don’t have standing. There’s not a particularized injury that’s been claimed. It’s a generalized injury, meaning every citizen has suffered injury to their vote. Therefore, there is no injury, which of course is not real. That is a fake argument in this instance, because if every citizen suffers an injury to their vote, that doesn’t make it equal. There’s no way to know whether or not it was equal, but they use these kinds of nonsense arguments, honestly, when you really look at it deeply. Superficially, you might be able to bind yourself back into that one and justify it. But on a deep level, it just doesn’t meet the standard. And of course the Supreme Court has ruled in the past that actually you don’t have to have a particularized injury in regards to voting. It is possible for everyone to have the same injury. It’s somewhat akin, and this is one of the arguments raised originally by Bruce Castor III in one of his motion briefs in in the state of Ohio now in the mandamus lawsuit in the state of Ohio so similar to the one in Colorado that it’s similar to air pollution right how can you say just because everyone’s air is polluted equally that the pollution doesn’t exist you can’t and no one has any idea what the impact actually is of all of that pollution touching everyone so You know, in the case of pollution, well, the EPA says, all right, now we have to study it. In the case of an election, we say, well, now we have to open the books or they have to fix the problem. So that’s, you know, the mandamus lawsuits, those nine federal lawsuits of which Colorado is one of those nine states. They all make the same argument that they either have to fix the problem. Well, actually, they basically make the argument that says, on the one hand, they have to fix the problem, and on the other hand, they have to satisfy the court. that they understand why the problem took place, and it’s repaired truly, not just superficially.
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So, Marlee Hornick, for people that don’t know about United Sovereign Americans, it is a group of volunteers, and you have chapters throughout the country. Here in Colorado, we do have a chapter, and Mike Cahoon is the Colorado director who is doing amazing work here in Colorado. Marlee?
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Yes. One of the things that makes United Sovereign Americans a pretty unique volunteer organization is that our original pool of volunteers is unique. It is all people who are credentialed data analysts, software developers, programmers, auditors, legal analysts or scholars. The idea is not just that we kind of got together and did like a big cheer and a yahoo, but we actually got together and operated in the same way that you would operate a professional auditing agency. We took a very professional approach to, I guess, pouring through the state’s records in 21 states total and making… comparisons and analogies across and using prevalence studies and using statistical methods, using programming methods that were uniform across the entire investigation and professional and based on expert credentials in nature. So that’s one of the things that sets United Sovereign Americans apart. Yes, there’s lots of people who are upset about elections. There’s lots of people who reasonably have suspicions about the way elections are being administered and how the representatives are ultimately being authorized to serve in public office. United Sovereign Americans, instead of just getting mad and shouting, we took the approach of professional auditors tracking fraud, which is to say somewhere underneath all of that noise, there is an actual operator functioning. The way that the states lineup, what we discovered in Colorado relates to what we found in Ohio. It relates to what we found in Pennsylvania. It relates to every single state we audited, California, New York, Georgia, all of them. They have similar problems at a similar magnitude. And it’s not just something you can easily excuse by saying, you know, it’s a clerical error. It’s some kind of a, quote, glitch in the system. IT HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED. SO THE ISSUE THAT WE, WHAT SEPARATES UNITED SOVEREIGN AMERICANS IS THE WAY WE SAT BACK INSTEAD OF JUST GETTING MAD AND TAKING OUR SUSPICIONS AND TURNING THEM INTO CONCLUSIONS AND SHOUTING ABOUT THEM, WE STARTED TRACKING WHAT WE CALLED A MARAUDER THROUGH THE SYSTEM. THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING UNDERNEATH ALL OF THAT NOISE AND BUSINESS, UNDER ALL OF THAT, THERE’S AN ACTUAL MARAUDER WHO IS CHANGING the certified outcomes of elections. And we started tracking them.
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Well, I think that is really important because we don’t have a country if we don’t have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections. And that’s why the work of United Sovereign Americans is so important. And the show comes to you because of great sponsors. And throughout the month of December, we are promoting Doyle Glass’s book, Swift Sword, which is about the Marines of Mike 3-5 on 4 September 1967. And as I’ve mentioned, we are pre-recording all these great shows for Christmas week and also pre-recording conversations with our great sponsors. And I’m talking with Karen Levine. She’s a REMAX realtor, has been in the business for a long time. We’ve been friends for many years. And when I think of blessings, your friendship is one of those great blessings.
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Well, thank you, Kim. And it’s funny when your youngest son said, I think you’ve known me since birth. I’m like, oh, my, I have known your mother a bit, haven’t I?
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I think that is true. So cute. We’ve been through lots of different things together in this journey with the radio show and you coming on being a regular guest. You and I have have. connected dots that we didn’t even realize. And you stand for property rights. We realize that homeownership, property rights has been under assault. And I feel we have a great opportunity this next year, Karen, with the new administration. We’ve got work to do at the local, the county, and the state level. But you’ve been doing that at the local, county, state, and national level regarding property rights and homeownership. And I thank you for that.
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Well, thank you. I’ve had the privilege of chairing the Government Affairs Committee at the local realtor association, the Denver Metro Association of Realtors, for the last two years. And then I was the vice chair prior to that. I’ve relinquished that position because I was term-limited, Kim. But I’m excited. The Denver Metro Association of Realtors is bringing on a new government affairs director, and I’m looking forward to good direction, good leadership, both from the staff perspective and then from the volunteer perspective. And I… not being in a chair position, I’m going to be a bit more vocal about things that add cost to housing and why we should not be supporting these type of policies, legislation, referendums, whatever they are, and having conversations with
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city councils and the state and we just need to keep having the conversation we do and you just mentioned something that got my attention and that is here you’ve been done a great job as the chair of this committee but you’re term limited but yet and this was when I was on city council as well term limited but the bureaucrats are not term limited so I know people that want to have these forced term limits the founders thought we would do that at the ballot box but if we’re doing some kind of term limits we need to also do term limits for bureaucrats I think we start there first correct and our dear friend
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Oh, dear. Just you know how that happens. My friend from North Carolina, Lee Brown, Lee Brown, when she was running for office, term limits was very important to her as well. And I look back at it was a it was a young man that was a bit older than me growing up. But he served as our congressman here in my well, he wasn’t in my congressional district until they redrew the lines. But Congressman Perlmutter, and he was not term limited, and there was a period of time that it really was time for him to move on. And it wasn’t until they redrew the districts that he said, I’ll retire. Mm-hmm.
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But we as voters, that’s really where I think it should be. So we’re going to work on that in 2025. We have a lot to do in 2025. But just we got about a minute. Your reflections regarding this Christmas Hanukkah season.
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Well, it’s one of my favorite time of seasons, times of year, I should say. And I love the fact that we can cram more into these 30 days than we do any other month of the year. I can have more social activities, more time with family and friends and still do more business. And I find it just amazing. But then you’re exhausted. Right. So you need January to recuperate. But I’m looking forward, already have delved into time with family and friends. And we have a retreat in the mountains, which we’ll partake in for some snowmobiling and fun and games up there. And I just look forward to the reason for the season, which we are blessed to obviously have a baby be born who has saved us to reunite us with God. And that’s super important, I know, to you and to me. And so we need to remember to celebrate that beautiful gift that God gave us. And I look forward to hanging out a lot at my church and and then bringing in 2025 well and taking hold of the opportunities that God will give us in the new year.
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Thank you very much. And same to you, Kim.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I am so appreciative of the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. They’ve been friends of the show and sponsors for so many years and greatly appreciate that. And also, as you all know, I support the USMC Memorial Foundation. The actual official Marine Memorial is located right here in Colorado in Golden at 6th and Colfax. And during the month of December, if you buy a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service, to honor your loved one’s military service or your own military service, there is a donor who has stepped forward and will match the cost of that brick and help get us closer to our goal to be able to start that remodel. On the line with me is a co-founder of United Sovereign Americans, which is a group of all volunteers in a number of states that are focused on making sure that we get ourselves to a point where we have free, fair, honest, and Marlee Hornick, would you say that that’s accurate? Is that the total focus on that?
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That is our current focus. Actually, United Sovereign Americans will have a broader focus in time, but at the moment, the most fundamental constitutional right is on the line, which is the right to choose our representatives in free, fair, honest, and accurate elections. So that’s the first crisis you could say. I hate to say that word, but it really is.
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Well, it is. And before we went to break, you mentioned a marauder or marauders in our election system. So tell us more about that.
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Sure. Well, it’s unknown whether it’s singular or plural, because we cannot get law enforcement to investigate the problems that have been identified by United Sovereign Americans, by other organizations, New York Citizens Audit, by the work of Harry Howery and others, Harry being a co-founder of United Sovereign Americans also. But without law enforcement willingness to investigate the evidence of crimes from a criminal perspective, we can’t know yet, let’s say, about the qualities and nature of this marauder, except we can monitor them. So we can track what they’re doing, we can measure it, and we can count it. And that’s exactly what United Sovereign Americans did with the 21 state scorecards and the nine federal lawsuits. So the scorecards demonstrated that in 21 states, the problems are related to each other. It’s not like Colorado has one problem and California has a different problem. They have basically the same problem, and we measured that and tracked it. And the first problem is that The states are registering people to vote without verifying their identity on a deep level, right? Not a superficial level, but on a deep level. That’s going on everywhere in the country. And this amounts to, in the 21 states, it amounts to 29 million registrations. We could easily identify that there’s an open question as to whether anybody even verified the accuracy of the information at all because these are circumstances like people who are registered to vote before they’re born according to the official records. That’s an example of the kind of data that is represented in those 29 million records. The second issue that we have across all the states is that the authorities are granting ballots to these people who are clearly not verified and not valid according to the law. Third problem is that no one can count in America. And this could be like the problem with the Common Core curriculum and whatnot. But it seems like maybe we haven’t quite. Those kids aren’t yet working at the Board of Elections, but they still can’t count. And so they always ask either more or less votes counted than voters who actually participated. And that’s the difference between those two numbers should always be zero. Right. Those three issues are all called election fraud in U.S. criminal code. Those are all called election fraud. I’m not making an allegation. This is the way the United States Department of Justice defines those three actions. And people have been prosecuted and sent to federal prison, for example, for certifying a false tally of votes in a single polling site. Multiple times in U.S. history. 1888, 1941, 1973, and countless other decisions that didn’t even go to the Supreme Court. They were decided in district or circuit court. These are the problems we’ve unearthed. And the marauder is doing this by basically vote laundering. So you know how money laundering takes place, right? You want to get money from point A to point B, but you have to go through all these sub points along the way. You have to send it to different countries and send it through different parties and put it through a factory and whatever. And then by the time it gets to your destination, nobody can figure out how it got there. Nobody can trace it all the way back. It’s clean. And the same thing they’re doing with actual votes. They have all of these extra registration records. The 29 million we found, there’s probably way more that we didn’t find. These are the ones we found, right? Running like basic SQL queries. You know, we didn’t touch the NCOA issue, for example, that Peter Wernicke ran for the state of Colorado. So there’s all of these registration records that are basically parking places that a real voter doesn’t put their car into and never will. So they know where these are and they can fold votes into the system through the process and then shift them around as they go. And so Basically, they certify an election. And what we’ve discovered, our scorecards show this, is that once the election is certified, then they start another massive manipulation of the vote, including the shocking finding, for example, that New York’s 2020 election, at the time we first started studying it, was October of 2021. And there were 109 double votes recorded in 2020. in the 2020 election, now in the fall of 2021. When we audited that election again in the summer of 2023, there were 226,000 double votes recorded in the 2020 election because they are really bad at this. They’re moving votes into places that are easily trapped. I mean, it just doesn’t make any sense except that it’s a really bad cleanup job. And we found this. So we took very careful records of the 2024 election now, and we have tracked literally in some states hundreds of thousands of votes attached to a single registration, appearing, disappearing, reappearing, disappearing, reappearing, and then getting certified. And now we’re tracking them, washing those somewhere else. This is the marauder. It is a vote laundering operation. Why did we win the 2024 presidential election? I don’t know 100 percent, but I do know that this marauder was highly intimidated by the fact that expert auditors, analysts and so on and so forth, programmers found these issues, counted them. reported them to state officials in 21 states, reported them to the FBI, the DOJ, and the Department of Homeland Security, and then even took the outrageous, unprecedented, historically unprecedented step of filing a massive wave of federal litigation pointing this out in court. And if I were that marauder, and this is what I believe happened, and this is what we believe at USA happened, I would back way off right then.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m sorry, you would what? I missed that. Marla, you would do what? Back off. Okay, back off. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
It doesn’t mean they’re gone. They’re definitely not gone. And you can see what happened down ballot. And believe me, we are tracking all of these issues very, very meticulously in a forensic manner. And we have provenance and chain of custody. This is all evidentiary quality research that USA does. Because clearly, they didn’t leave. They’re not gone.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and they’re not giving up. Even before the election was over, I really believe that they were planning on… They play long… When I say they, I don’t know exactly who that is, but I would say it’s people that don’t love America, that want power. And they… They don’t give up, and they’re very, very patient. So we’re going to go to break. I’m talking with Marlee Hornick, co-founder of United Sovereign Americans. These discussions are so important. They come to you because of our sponsors. We’re an independent voice, and we are independent because of sponsors like La Vaca Meat Company. It is a great protein source for that steakhouse experience at home.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And while we’re on break… I highly recommend to take the kids down to the Center for American Values. They have their Portraits of Valor, which is a very reverent place of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients and quotes by each of them. And it’s a great learning experience. They’ve got this great little Medal of Honor quote book that I’d recommend you have on your desk. at home on your Freedom Library, on your Freedom Shelf. And so be sure and check all that out. Go to AmericanValueCenter.org to get their hours and all of their information. And again, that’s AmericanValueCenter.org. And talking with Marlee Hornick, she is a co-founder of United Sovereign Americans. It is a group of all volunteers throughout the country. They have chapters in many different states. We’ve got a chapter here in Colorado. And Mike Cahoon is is the Colorado director of United Sovereign Americans. And I have to tell you, the more I get to know him, the more I work with Mike Cahoon, the more impressed I am with. He’s a very humble guy, but the more impressed I am with him, Marlee Hornick.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he’s a real treasure, an American treasure. So many people volunteering with United Sovereign Americans are like that. They’re true People who want to get to the root of things, they want everything to be good in creation. And we come at it from maybe slightly different perspectives, but that’s what we’re looking at. We look out the window or go out in the fresh air and think, how can anyone not love this and want to figure out how to protect it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And make sure that we pass that on to our children. I am convinced that we are in a unique time in history. And on the beginning of our show, I normally say we were made for this moment in history. And I believe that. And I also think that we are in the third founding of our country. Marley, on whether or not we Americans are going to step forward and reclaim our country, these founding principles. Our founding, obviously, was the Revolutionary War, then the Civil War. And I think that we’re in that time right now. I’m encouraged, but we’ve got a lot of work to do. And it’s really in this battle of ideas that we need to engage in, which you’re doing that on a United Sovereign Americans, how many states are you active in right now with different chapters?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right now we have 24 states operating under United Sovereign Americans. We are working towards getting all 50. So that is one of our objectives. Although obviously our primary objective initially was just to get to assist in securing the 2024 election, which I believe we definitely accomplished. I don’t know if we hadn’t done this, if citizens who love this country and love this world and love liberty and believe in the principles of this country hadn’t taken that step all over the nation. I don’t know where we would be right now post 2024 election. I don’t know who would be the incoming president and what the circumstances would be in Congress. So I’m so grateful that people did that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I am as well. And so let’s talk a bit about Colorado. Out here in Colorado, just right before the election, it was made known that the Secretary of State, on a hidden tab on the Secretary of State website, had published the BIOS passwords to the voting machines for 63 of the 64 counties. And instead of notifying the county clerks that there was this security breach, the Secretary of State’s office, they started – I guess checking it out, you would say, but they didn’t let the county clerks know. And so we sent a letter to all of the county clerks asking, when did you know and how did you find out? And initially it was a letter by the Colorado State GOP that sent that out. And I find that pretty unconscionable that there would be a security breach like that and that the Secretary of State would not let all the county clerks know immediately, Marlee Hornick.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I agree. That’s extremely concerning. And also, actually, what they should have done is not try to hide this and try to run their own side investigation, but they should have immediately shut down the website. And I know that may sound like a drastic solution, but when you have a security breach in a system that is sacrosanct, the system that determines representation in the United States of America, in the federal and state governments, you cannot tolerate a breach. It immediately has to be closed, whatever that gap is. And then the investigation begins. And it’s literally an emergency. It’s a breach of national security infrastructure. And a single official or a solitary official in Colorado doesn’t have the authority to decide that that is not worthy of an emergency circumstance. And it begs a lot of questions as to what is the perspective of this individual in terms of their authority or their duty, rather, to the federal government and to the people of the United States of America as a whole to have Kind of like this idea that, hey, there’s been a complete breach of security protocols regarding the system that’s used to uphold the third sentence of the United States Constitution. And I’m just going to sweep it under the rug. That’s unacceptable. And that could be considered a civil rights abridgment. I mean, obviously, without prosecutors, you can’t make a criminal claim. But you can call that a deprivation of a fundamental civil right acting under color of law, depending on how the circumstances lay out, because that person had a duty to have a sworn duty to protect the election infrastructure of the United States of America from their seat. And they failed to do so. And no one knows. The problem is no one knows what the repercussions were. Right. You have to investigate and you have to close that gap instantly. That’s how the law sees this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and of course, apparently, the Colorado Secretary of State’s office hired a firm to come in and take a look to see if anything had happened with this. And I think it would take an extensive amount of time to actually do that properly. And the Libertarian Party did file suit. on this and that case was heard the monday the monday right before election day and this is and i i went down and watched the hearing and the judge this is my understanding really of what the judge ruled is and this was the state of colorado saying you can’t prove that anybody any any nefarious action was taken by anyone and since you can’t prove that any nefarious people did anything nefarious, then everything’s okay, and so move on. Yeah, that’s a breach of federal law, actually.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know this is, like, overwhelming because how do you enforce federal law when the judges themselves either are ignorant of the law, they’re ignorant of the philosophy of the law, or they just don’t care, which is, you know, there’s a lot of questions right there to answer, but that’s improper. The law… A concerning critical national security infrastructure is very clear. A breach has to be, you don’t have to prove that it was material, you have to prove that it was not material, okay? And the Colorado Secretary of State’s office does not have jurisdiction over a breach of critical infrastructure. The agency that is actually authorized under federal law to examine and investigate breaches of critical national security infrastructure, she might think it’s her website, but she’s mistaken, is what I’m saying, is the Foreign Intelligence Task Force of the FBI. Because the threat that there could have been a foreign government or a foreign actor penetrating the system for their purpose is only authorized to be investigated by that branch of the FBI. So there are so many breaks in civil rights here. And you could say, oh, there are breaks in the law, but, you know, breaks in the law happen all the time. But this, again, third sentence of the United States Constitution says the people of the several states shall choose their representatives. Congress said we’re going to have this electronic system. All the states purchased this electronic equipment. Now they have this digital system. They have websites. it doesn’t change the fact that the entire system has to be surrounded by an impenetrable security barrier, a fortress, because this is how we govern our nation. So even losing a single congressional seat to some kind of private actor operating for their own benefit is abhorrent to the principles of the U.S. Constitution.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and so what we’d like to see, and trying to figure out how to go about this, is for a remedy to have an actual audit of the election and a hand count, because that seems like that would be very helpful in determining if anything happened with that. So we’re asking for that, Marlee Hornick. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think transparency of all records is critical in auditing. You cannot simply have a hand count. You have to have a comprehensive audit. It doesn’t have to count every item. You don’t have to actually have physical possession of every single record and audit every single record. You have to use prevalence studies to sample the entire process at critical junctions. This is one of the remedies that United Sovereign Americans will be proposing in federal court for the problems that we have. And we would be happy to help you, you know, instantly implement this remedy into whatever litigation you’re looking at. And I highly recommend that we bring the USA team in to work with you if you’re thinking of going further in litigation with this. because the hand count is not going to be sufficient and it’s not going to be conclusive.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And for this Christmas week, we are prerecording these shows with amazing guests. So pleased to have on the line with me, co-founder of United Sovereign Americans, Marlee Hornick. Marlee, we’re talking about elections. And for us to have our country… We need to have free, fair, honest, transparent elections. And that’s really what United Sovereign Americans has been focusing on. You’ve got chapters in 24 states. Colorado is one of those states. We have a lawsuit that is out there right now with eight other states regarding it was filed before this last election. And it’s in that legal ping pong back and forth right now, which this whole legal thing is kind of a long game from what I’m learning.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, there are ways to, I guess, force it to go a little bit faster. But even when you try to force it to go faster, there’s ways that the adversary that you’re facing has ways to slow it down again. It’s a challenging landscape. But like all things in American government, it’s designed to happen slowly on purpose because changing our government through the kinds of decisions that can come through a major federal court should be deliberated over. And it should take time, as frustrating as that may seem in a moment, and especially with the massive challenges we’re seeing regarding the invalidity of our current election process. So it’s a
SPEAKER 03 :
A tough balance, I guess. It is. And Marlee, I know that you look at things nationally, but I look at Colorado. I think Colorado is the petri dish for all kinds of things that extremists are trying to get through. And I think that happens in our elections as well. And this is a head scratcher for me. The secretary of state has admitted that there were fraudulent ballots that went that got through in Mesa County. And that begs the question, I guess, first of all, is how can you certify an election where you know that there’s fraudulent ballots that have gotten through the system? But if it happened in Mesa County, it seems like we should check the other counties as well, Marlee.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, that would be what you would do if the process were legitimate. And the concern over the validity of an election was sincere. You cannot certify an election where I think it was over 10,000 ballots, if I remember correctly, went out. And no one really knows the nature of what happened after that. But, you know, there’s this kind of superficial quality to the administration process of elections, which, you know, in defense, not that I want to put myself in this position right now on your radio show, but in defense of the secretary of state, this is how elections have been operated for a very long time it’s been uh over a hundred years since people really took this seriously it took the civil war you know to really light people up about the validity of elections and um and and then we kind of went down into the the status quo again which is there’s always going to be some fraud and you can never fix the whole thing but The problem we’re having is that she’s saying this. Meanwhile, United Sovereign Americans has their other set of facts out there. Meanwhile, there’s this other breach on the website. I mean, how many of these breaches can they just sweep under the rug and pretend that that is still representative government? So I think we agree that they are way past their surplus here. They’re way over the top.
SPEAKER 03 :
So what would you say that everyday people, that they voted, there’s many that say, relieved that Trump was elected and that the Biden-Harris-Walls team is not at the federal level pushing forward this radical agenda that they’ve been pushing forward. And so everyday people going back to their jobs, taking care of the families, their businesses, I don’t know that they understand that there’s, Really danger, danger on our elections still. But but they’re busy. They’re trying to keep it together. High inflation. What would you say to them?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that’s a really hard question, because I think I would probably just go to pieces. I mean, I just feel like it’s such a hard landscape. We’re not dealing with, you know, a little hush-hush. We’re dealing with a massive information warfare scenario. That’s what we’re living through right now. And, you know, you calling this the third founding, I think, has some legitimacy. I have to, you know, it’s the first time I heard you say that. I’m thinking it over. But we are in a war right now for our country. But it’s a war of ideas. Like you said, it’s an information war. And we… hold very few of the levers of power. So I actually, and I guess what I would say is, you know, please just contemplate these problems. There are so many problems we’re facing as Americans. Each one of them is resolved at the root through true representative government. So even if the problem hasn’t touched you yet, what happens is, you know, you look out and you see the problem, but you defend yourself against the problem. Your bank account is still OK. Your kids are still in school and they haven’t been transitioned. You’re this. You’re that. You know, your kid is still doing really well on the baseball team and you want to make sure that that keeps going. Right. It’s like. But the problems, it’s like that statement they have. They came for the Jews, and I wasn’t a Jew, so I didn’t say anything. Then they came for, I don’t know, the tree huggers, and I wasn’t a tree hugger. Eventually, they come for everyone. So that’s really the problem that we need to solve, which is, okay, you don’t have to be interested in all of this myriad mess that some people are now, many, many, many Americans are embroiled in against their own wishes and against their own will. But if we all agree that elections should be fair and honest, let’s work together to make sure they are. Let’s just double check.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think the big, broad part of America, and that would be your moderate Democrats, unaffiliated libertarians, Republicans, conservatives can come together because I think that we all want to make sure that we have these free, fair, honest, and transparent elections that we can trust. I have a quote that producer Steve had given me. This is by a woman named Martha Gellhorn. She was an American novelist, writer, and journalist. She lived 1908 to 1998. And she said, people often say with pride, I’m not interested in politics. They might as well say, I’m not interested in my standard of living, my health, my job, my rights, my freedoms, my future, or any future. If we mean to keep any control over our world and lives, we must be interested in politics. I think that’s a great answer to maybe the question I posed to you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and actually… I agree with that. And if you go back to Plato and his depiction of Socrates speaking to the political authorities in Athens, and they asked him, hey, who should run the republic? And he said it should be philosophers. Why? Because we have to be aimed at the good. We have to keep aiming ourselves at the good. And right now, our aim is going anywhere. all over the place. Like you’re saying, hey, Colorado is the petri dish. Well, I’ll tell you, the people in Michigan feel like they’re the petri dish. The people in New York feel like they’re the petri dish. All over the country, people feel, they look around and they say, this just doesn’t make sense. This doesn’t feel like the human society we were having. And all of a sudden it’s changing and it feels like they’re testing things out. Well, because we’re not aiming at the good right now. This marauder who’s mucking around in the elections is mucking around in civil society in ways that are unprecedented in human history. And we have to come together and say, we have a higher purpose. And that higher purpose is to together aim our country at the good. What is good for our children? What is good for our land? What is good for the water? What is good for everyone? What is good for the economy? What is good for freedom and liberty? Because And that’s what makes America so special, because that’s what happened. Our first founding, and now I’m kind of latching on to this idea, Kim, that our first founding examined these ideas so thoroughly throughout the entire Western philosophical tradition and took all of that information, all of that human experience, and turned it into a United States Constitution that said, here’s the best solution human beings anywhere in space and time have come up with yet. to continue to point an entire nation at the good. That’s what the Constitution means.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s what it’s about. And that good, I would say, Marlee Hornick, is that everyday people, we are good stewards of this God’s green earth that he has given us. But also that good is that human beings can thrive and flourish in liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. Marlee Hornick, I so appreciate all the work that you’re doing with United Sovereign Americans. And we’ve got to fasten our seatbelt. We have much work to do. But I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you, Kim. You too. And thanks for having United Sovereign Americans on the show again. If people want to find us, unite4freedom.com. U-N-I-T-E number 4 freedom dot com is where you can catch us on the web.
SPEAKER 03 :
And if you go to the progress tab at the website, you can scroll down and you’ll see the lawsuit and the actions taken for Colorado. So, Marlee Hornick, thank you so much. Thanks, Kim. And our quote for the end of the show is Thomas Edison. He said, Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. So never give up, my friends. And today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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