In this episode of The Kim Munson Show, delve into the pressing issues of freedom versus force as Kim and her insightful guests tackle the complexities of modern governance. From dissecting current political landscapes to exploring citizen rights and the impact of government-induced challenges, the discussion is a vivid reminder that creativity and innovation should take precedence over restrictive policies. Kim Munson alongside her producers and contributors analyze these topics with the aim of arming listeners with clear, unbiased perspectives on the freedom we cherish and the forces seeking to limit it.
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It’s the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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That seems to me like government is establishing a religion.
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Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today’s drive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday and Happy New Year, Producer Joe. Happy New Year, Kim. Do you have any New Year’s resolutions, Joe?
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To be more productive. I kind of have some procrastination tendencies, and I want to be more productive and better at that.
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Okay, well, that’s a good one. I think that’s probably a New Year’s resolution that just about 100% of people could probably do. So I’m with you on that. So good one. I don’t know. Mine… I think mine’s the same, to be more productive. I think that’s a good one. So I’m going to co-opt that. How’s that, Joe? I’m fine with that. Okay. Although I must say we do get a lot done, Producer Joe. So there’s quite a bit of production going on here. And so let’s get into it. Check out my website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter that comes out on Sundays. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. 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And last night I was watching some of the news shows, and I’d forgotten this about Jimmy Carter. that it’s called his sweater speech where he had a sweater on and he was saying that we all need to sacrifice and have our homes at 65 degrees in the winter during the day and 55 at night and to put a sweater on instead of using creativity and innovation to actually address These challenges, which is what happened with horizontal hydraulic fracturing when it was reported that the world would be running out of oil within just a few years. The creativity and innovation of the oil and natural gas industry rolled up their sleeves and they came up with solutions. And that’s what we need to do with all of these different problems. uh, questions that we have out there is unleash the human mind, creativity and innovation to address these challenges. And we can address these challenges. So I would say that I can use the word of the day regarding that sweater speech by Jimmy Carter, who he just passed on at the age of 100. Uh, and the word of the day is indignation. It’s I N D I G N A T I O N. It’s a noun and it could be an anger aroused by something perceived as unjust mean or unworthy that’s number one second definition is the feeling excited by which is unworthy base or disgraceful anger mingled with contempt disgust or abhorrence and i would say that where would i fall in on this I would say that I guess I’m disgusted with that sweater speech. Instead of thinking about creativity and innovation, those on the left, they always think about more government control, less of everything. And so I really look at that sweater speech with indignation, which is spelled I-N-D-I-G-N-A-T-I-O-N. our quote of the day i went to benjamin franklin born in 1706 died in 1790 he was an american polymath a leading writer scientist inventor statesman diplomat printer publisher and political philosopher and he was among the most influential intellectuals of his time he was a founding father He was a drafter and signer of the Declaration of Independence, and he was the first postmaster general. And he said this. He said, without freedom of thought, there can be no wisdom and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech. And, of course, you can see how that influenced our Bill of Rights. Freedom of speech is foundational to a free society. And, again, that’s Benjamin Franklin. And look at all the things that he did. And that was before he had an iPhone where so many people, I’m not being judgmental, I know it happens, are glued into being online. And instead of, I would say, really expanding their minds, it depends on what you’re doing online, obviously. But if it’s just watching others and what their lives are, perhaps maybe I might want to make a change on that. So this day in history. I found this super interesting. In 192, Roman Emperor Commodus survives poisoning attempt by his mistress, I guess that had not gone well, only to be strangled in the bath in an assassination plot. I guess they wanted to get rid of him, it looks like. In 1564, William I of Orange demands freedom of religious conscience for his subjects in a dramatic speech to the Council of States. And that was so important back then, and it still is important. In 1695, a window tax is imposed in England, causing many shopkeepers to brick up their windows to avoid the tax. Joe, they will tax anything. Can you imagine that? And my understanding, I’ve done some research on this, was the more windows you had meant probably the more affluent that you are, which they were trying to tax affluence. But just think about, again, when I say it’s not right to take other people’s opportunities, just think about taxing shopkeepers’ windows where people can look in and see their shops. And again, this was back in 1695. What do you think about that, Joe?
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That’s disgusting. I don’t really have much more words than that. That’s just egregious.
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And so always government seems to be trying to figure out ways to take away opportunity. In 1775, this was before we had declared our independence in the Battle of Quebec, American Continental Army led by Richard Montgomery is defeated trying to take the British stronghold of Quebec City in the American Revolutionary War. General Montgomery is killed and Benedict Arnold is injured. Then in 1924, Italian fascist Mussolini orders the suppression of opposition newspapers. Again, going right back to the freedom of speech that Benjamin Franklin was talking about. Suppressing opposition newspapers is suppressing speech. 1935, Charles Darrow patents the board game Monopoly, which goes on to be the first millionaire game designer. In 1945, the ratification of the United Nations Charter is completed. In 1997, more Swedes died than were born, and that’s the first time since 1809, which that is a very dangerous sign for a society. In 1999, control of the Panama Canal reverts to Panama, which that was another of Jimmy Carter’s decisions was to give the Panama Canal back to Panama. And of course, Donald Trump is talking about trying to get that back because apparently there might be overcharging now on shipping. So that was, again, Jimmy Carter, who just died at the age of 100. And in 2020, the World Health Organization grants the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine emergency authorization. Again, there’s the emergency authorization. It’s not FDA approved. Paving the world for worldwide distribution. So… That was again 2020. That’s Deja Vu looking back at that. One of the first headlines that I wanted to mention was this is in Complete Colorado and this is by Nash Herman. And he says there we need to have a course correction for Colorado’s economic outlook. And it says the University of Colorado Leeds School of Business recently released their 60th annual business outlook for 2025. And despite a moderate outlook in 2025, the report includes some disturbing trends in the Colorado economy. As pointed out by the Denver Post earlier, and we talked about this, and that was writer Aldo Svaldi, Colorado was the fifth fastest growing economy in the country in the last 15 years, but it was 41st this last year. And in terms of personal growth, Colorado moved from third to 39th. And then it says, although Colorado only moved down from 6th to 15th for employment growth, it comes with the caveat that the job gains this year were skewed toward government, education and health care, leisure and hospitality. Although we reported yesterday that the Bureau of Labor Statistics has said that the labor statistics, as reported here in Colorado, are unreliable. So I’ve got to think that that that particular data point is suspect. And it says, conversely, the growth of the high paying professional and business services industry has continued a downward trend since 2022. He goes on to say that this is the reason. And that’s why Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights is important. It’s so important, Tabor, and then also the work that the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is doing. And that group is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honecker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O’Loughlin, Wendy Warner. Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, and Mary Jansen. And I’m pleased to let you all know that listener Dave Evans will be joining us this next year on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers Board. And I could probably… We could maybe have one more, a new board member. So if you are interested in talking with me about that, text me at 720-605-0647. But this is the reason that Colorado’s economy is tanking. And it says that there are some problems, such as the lingering effects of the reaction to the pandemic. Again, that was government-induced. and inflation from federal spending. We talk about that on a regular basis. But he goes on to say that Colorado’s shift toward bigger government and away from the free market is why these problems are beginning to manifest. Overregulation, overspending, and overtaxation are the key culprits. And so we’ve got to get that turned around. And, of course, this is under Jared Polis and this radical activist state legislature. And that is what is happening. And that is why right now Colorado’s economy is headed in the wrong direction. And it is so important that we have these discussions. And one of those great sponsors that brings this to you is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And they can bundle your insurance together, your home and your auto and the other things you might have, camper. boat. And if you bundle all that together, you might be able to save some money. The way to find out is to give them a call at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. And for all of you that are renting out there, make sure that you have renter’s coverage. That is very, very important. So again, like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. The text line is 720-605-0647. And Eric wanted to know if we’re live today. Yes, we are live today. We are prerecording for New Year’s Day, but we are live for sure. And talking with former State Senator Kevin Lundberg, he is the author of the Lundberg Report, and wanted to take a look at looking back and looking forward. Kevin Lundberg, welcome to the show.
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Well, thanks, Kim. It’s great being with you, as always.
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Happy New Year.
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Happy New Year. Looking forward to it, even though, I don’t know, our discussion today might not be the most encouraging part of it, but I’m looking forward to a whole lot of what I’m going to see in 2025.
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Well, Colorado, I really think, is at the tip of the spear with all of the things that the radical activists, extremists that have taken over the Democrat Party are trying to push forward. And it’s been reported that out of all 50 states, that Colorado is the only state that did not vote more Republican. And I find that pretty interesting. That’s why I’m pleased that we’ve got our two lawsuits out there regarding the Colorado 2024 election project. And we’re kicking around the idea of another lawsuit because we need to make sure that we have free, fair, honest and transparent elections here, Kevin. And I just find that curious that Colorado is the only state out of 50 that went bluer. What’s your thoughts on that?
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Well, I couldn’t agree with you more except for a couple of details, one of which is for the first time in several years, we are sending just as many Republicans to the U.S. House as Democrats. And then the second point is that in our House, the Colorado House of Representatives, we actually did pick up a couple of seats as well. So even with these strong headwinds and And I share your deep concern with how the elections are conducted here in Colorado. At the bare minimum, they are conducted in great secrecy with a complete refusal to show any accountability that we, the people, can actually have a peek at. But we’ll leave that aside, probably another discussion for another day. and simply say that I agree that if you look at the – because we still have a radical governor with a House and a Senate that he’s fully in charge of. We slipped right outside of the window of being in the super minority, we the Republican side – But it’s still a setup for the same that we’ve seen for many years now. And when I look back at what happened in 2024 and 23 and 22 and 21 and 20 and 18 or 19, not 18, 2019, it has been a radical change. Now, the reason I see that distinction there is in 2018, the Republicans were in charge of the Senate, and we couldn’t put forward any legislation because we still were on the ropes in the other house and the governor’s office. But we could stop a lot of that, and we did, and I was there. And so, you know, I saw it right from the front row. But after that, we lost it, and we lost the Senate, and it’s been getting worse ever since. Well, we held our own in the Senate this last time, but that was it. Anyway, so that’s a yes, I agree with you, even though I see little signs of change in the air here in Colorado. But buckle up, because this next legislative session, which just starts in a few days, is probably going to be just as bad as the others, and maybe even worse, because they may— They may see the writing on the wall, I don’t know, that their days are numbered.
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You know, the one question on that, Kevin Lundberg, is we’ve heard the word on the street is that Jared Polis would like to run for president, possibly in 2028. And so I wonder if they might, because he’s trying to paint himself as a libertarian. Although in the first segment I just reported, this was from Complete Colorado, page two, Nash Herman said, As reported, and again, the Denver Post had an article several weeks ago as well, that Colorado had been the fifth fastest growing economy in the country, but it was 41st last year. And again, that’s under Jared Polis’ control. So what’s your thoughts?
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Yeah, you’re quite right that Polis is a very, very shrewd politician. I’ve been following him pretty carefully yet. I actually ran against him for Congress back in 2012, so you kind of get to know your opponent a little more closely then. And then, of course, I have been following the legislative arena even after terming out very closely. And if you look at the legislative record, and this is probably the best way to judge where Jared Polis is because he signs these bills. And he controls what happens in the legislature as well. If he doesn’t like it, it’ll die. And there are some really, really wild ideas that have died. I’ll grant that. But if you lay up against that, everything that’s become law, it is a heavy-handed agenda that really focuses on two or three things. One is… A control of all the property in the state of Colorado. If you’re a landowner, if you’re a landlord, for example, I know several that have been in that business here in Colorado that have decided it’s time to leave. They’re selling out and they’re moving out because it has become so difficult to actually own and rent a property in Colorado. and the laws, you can see it, it lines up, that’s one. Another is their radical adherence to their, you know, this Green New Deal, which means shut down industry, slow down and stop oil and gas production, encourage everybody to go to electric vehicles, even though They don’t have a real practical application here in Colorado with our heavy snows in the mountains and the cold weather. All of this doesn’t work, not to mention the fact that they’re shutting down the base electric energy systems, that being coal plants. And people say, oh, that’ll never happen. No, it’s already on the books. By 2030, everything is supposed to be gone here in Colorado that’s coal production. And I live up in Larimer County where probably the best coal-fired electric plant in the state is, and maybe in the nation, one of the most sophisticated ones, the rawhide plant, designed to go until 2045 at least, and they’re shutting it down by 2030 according to their plans now. And then I’m not going to ignore the other big issue that Polis has just been on a tear over, and that’s promoting the whole transgender agenda that is attacking our children. And, of course, I’m focused there. I’m even, you know, we worked on an initiative last year and are standing up an organization called Protect Kids Colorado, And that’s because the governor has been so intense in the state of Colorado. And if you review and if we’ve got time, I’d like to review some of the bills that were passed last year that just demonstrate these principles. Not to mention attacking Second Amendment issues, too.
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Right. Well, and it’s it’s amazing. It just happened as I was looking at thinking about these shows last week and guests and reaching out to you. I thought, I need to get Erin Lee back on as well. And so she’s going to be our featured guest in hour number two. And the two of you have been working with your board as well regarding Protect Kids Colorado. So I think it’s really important that we do talk about that. So we’ll do that when we come back from break. I’m talking with… Kevin Lundberg, former state senator, author of the Lundberg Report. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything residential real estate, reach out to RE-MAX realtor Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and thank you to laramie energy for their gold sponsorship of the show it’s reliable efficient affordable and abundant energy from oil natural gas and coal that powers our lives fuels our hopes and dreams and allows us to control our own personal climate being warm in the winter and cool in the summer i’m talking with Former State Senator Kevin Lundberg, he’s the author of the Lundberg Report. He has a weekly call that people all throughout Colorado will dial in on on Monday mornings. Very important discussions there. And Kevin, before we went to break, you mentioned Protect Kids Colorado. and Aaron Lee is the executive director, and we’ll talk with her in the second hour. But you had learned of Aaron and John Lee’s story regarding their daughter, who had gone to what was supposed to be art club after school. She was 11 or 12 years old, new school, coming out of COVID, shy, And as a parent, you want your kids to be involved, and Art Club sounded like a great idea, but it was actually a transgender indoctrination session. And it was for a few hours, and it took the Lees a significant amount of time to get just those few hours turned around for their adolescent daughter, Kevin.
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Yeah, yeah. If people haven’t seen the film Art Club… I highly recommend it. It’s up online. No paywall. It’s artclubmovie.com. That really tells the story. And it doesn’t just tell the story of the Lee family, but it uses them as an example to talk about what’s happening nationwide. And yet, let me go back to Colorado, because Colorado does seem to be, you know, you talk about the tip of the spear. Well, we seem to be the tip of the spear here, too. And you’ll learn more about that next hour, because Aaron’s the real expert on that. But this is an issue that has become so pervasive. It’s not an exception anymore. Unfortunately, it’s become the rule of the attitudes in far too many public schools around our state and elsewhere. I have devoted a great deal of my time in the past couple of years on this issue because it is such a big deal. And there are parents… and grandparents and just concerned citizens everywhere that are starting to realize this. I actually think that we’re going to beat this back nationally. You know, 26 states have passed laws to limit in some way this transgender grooming in schools and sports and libraries, but not here in Colorado. In Colorado, it’s the exact opposite. They passed a bill this last year that will require every public school to play the pronoun game with any kid that shows up and says, well, I think I’m a he and she isn’t, or whatever else they want to, you know, the non-legal names the schools will be required to use and utilize. And the parents don’t know, right?
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But the parents may not know.
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Yeah, yeah, that’s pretty much the policy in most schools is don’t tell the parents. And then at the state of Colorado, one of the bills they passed last year was a bill of rights for foster youth. Okay, well, that sounds appropriate, except if you read it, you discover that the bill cuts out foster families who are not supporting the transgender ideology. In other words, the bill of rights is if that child says, oh, I’m I want to transition. Well, the foster family must, must support that effort on that part of that child. And there are a lot of good, essentially Christian families, but it can be elsewhere too, who say, no, we’re not going along with this nonsense. It’s not correct. And the foster system in Colorado now says, well, you’re just not going to be a foster parent anymore because you must support And that’s just one example. You know, here’s another one I told you about, non-legal name changes. This is the one, 1039. These are all not bills. These are laws in the state of Colorado today.
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So one of our listeners, Gammy, is really all over this issue, and she had texted me a picture yesterday, and it is of an adolescent girl, and she doesn’t have her shirt on. There appears to be a doctor, so somebody in a white coat with her arms kind of around the child. And the child’s breasts have been removed. And this, I think, was a post by somebody that gone through the transgender surgery. That’s Chloe Cole, which you probably know. And her meme said, those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. And that’s Voltaire. But, Kevin, if you would have told me that in the old days, if somebody came in and I’m just thinking in war or whatever, and they came in and they cut off the breasts and genitals of girls or boys or men or women.
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Children. Children.
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You would have said that is an atrocity. And then here we have this happening with government dollars. So our tax money is being used for this to cut off the breasts and genitals of our children. And so surgically and then also from a pharmaceutical standpoint. It is beyond belief. And Colorado is at the tip of the spear on this. And that is it goes right back to Jared Polis.
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Yeah. Yeah. And understand it’s not just the physical things they’re doing. They’re they’re they’re chopping up their brains as well. You know, in the sense of of of convincing them right here and now, this is OK. But if you there’s another documentary out that somebody I don’t know who produced it, but I saw it a year or so ago called The Lost Boys. And there are other movies that have that title, too. But this is a story about five or six men who had been convinced they were women and went through these mutilation processes and now totally regret it and give, you know, give the story of, OK, years later. Well, then what now? But anyway, that’s one of the examples of how radical Colorado has become under the current political leadership. And I do put it in the feet of political leaders here, because I don’t think the people of Colorado have changed so much as everything else. Here’s another one that kind of just shows the absurdity. The bill itself, I don’t think, does a whole lot of bad things. But… House Bill 1459 is called birthing equity concerning protections for birthing persons. Now, why cannot they not say for for pregnant women or or something like that? Birthing equity concerning protection for birthing persons. It shows you how bizarre the legislature has become, even in the very language they use today. Oh, it just goes on and on. And I hope we’ve got a little bit of time to touch on some of these other areas that show what they’ve done. And believe me, that’s what they plan on doing. And you brought up the subject of, well, maybe Polis is going to try to modify it. Well, maybe he will, more so, because I think he realizes he’s losing the argument that he is somehow a moderate Democrat. He’s nothing but the most liberal, radical change agent that the state of Colorado has ever seen. He’s kind of a Tim Walz in a little more measured presentation, if you will. But You know, we’ve got to make people aware of this. And actually, that’s been one of my missions in the last few years politically is to make the nation aware of how radical Jared Polis is. And so I’ve been working a lot of different ways to just kind of dig deeper and say, no, no, no, look at this. You’re just not going to find too many politicians that are this far off the edge.
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But to your point, Tim Walz was not, I don’t think he was a strategic politician. No, no.
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That’s why I use his example is he’s kind of in the rough on what they’re both all about, which is just burn the place down is basically what they’re doing. And somehow they think that’s a good idea.
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One of the things that I find encouraging is that we are starting to see lawsuits against these adults that have done this mutilation to these children. And so lawsuits against the adults, the doctors, the hospitals, I find that very encouraging, Kevin Lumberg.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, well, and of course there, there’s the statute of limitations concern, because so many of these things, when it comes to transgender stuff, is you convince the child, and I’m not going to call them a child, not a young adult, but you convince them that this is a really good idea, they go through that, and then many years later, after the statute of limitations has passed, they realize it’s a bad idea, and I think one of the ways to address this here in Colorado is, because I don’t see our legislature outright banning it right now, but I do see the possibility of making the medical profession more accountable, and probably not through the legislature, even though I hope we have some attempts, and I think there might be a couple of bills that are going to try this. But that’s one reason to protect Kids Colorado is there, is so that we the people can stand up and and maybe run another initiative to just extend the statute of limitations when it comes to all these transgender surgeries and prescriptive drugs. If somebody wakes up as an adult and discovers, hey, that doctor, they stole my life from me by what they did, and they should have known better, well, they ought to be held accountable.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, and that is one of the things regarding A Climate Conversation, which your documentary, ArtClubMovie.com, people can watch that for free. I think if you’ve not watched that, that’s important. And from AClimateConversation.com, we’ve started a podcast series. And one of the discussions that we had is Greta Thunberg had said, being, I don’t know, United Nations or where she was as a young adult. And the accusation was that her childhood was stolen. And I think her childhood was stolen, again, by indoctrination. But that was one of the things that they were trying to say, we need to protect kids’ childhoods. But yet, over here on the transgender side, they are taking our children’s childhoods. And you mentioned another important point. It’s not just the physical. It is the indoctrination that’s been going on with their minds as well. And I’d reflected on this, Kevin Lundberg, because first of all, I really have felt that the push towards forced bicycle helmets has been more of a control thing versus a safety thing, because the people pushing that typically haven’t shown that they care about children. But we’ll leave that out there. But so parents want to be good parents. They put bicycle helmets on their kids because they want to protect them. They want to keep them safe. But yet we are not protecting on what’s going on in the inside of their brains. And that’s why what you’re doing with Art Club Movie and all of the work that you’re doing is so important, Kevin.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and, you know, it’s interesting you mentioned art. Greta Thunberg as being an example of a child whose brain was twisted in a different direction. Do you know that there was a bill that is now law here in Colorado that instructs the public schools to give a seal of climate literacy to high school diplomas or students’ diploma, a seal of climate literacy endorsement? And it’s just another example of how they run down or or you mentioned another one. I mean, it’s just there’s so many things. Can’t believe it. Next to tomorrow. Tomorrow, new standards for for child safety seats go into into play as if what they have in place is not enough today. And and your example of, well, do they really care about the child? Let me give you a cold heart example. When I was in the Senate. There was a change in a requirement for a booster seat for a child in a backseat. And Senator Cadman said, well, that doesn’t work in my pickup, which is a three quarter size, because if you could put a young younger child on. on a booster seat in my pickup, their head is sitting against the back window. So we need an exception that says, if you’ve got this kind of vehicle, you shouldn’t do that because they should be lower down so that they can be more safe if there is a wreck. And do you know that the highway safety folks that were promoting that would not allow that amendment to go through? That was an exception they weren’t willing to accept, even though it was obvious to everybody that the safety of the child demanded that in that special circumstance. And to me, that just opened my eyes so much to so much of these controls they put in place. It’s not necessarily because it’s better or worse for anybody. It’s just that that doesn’t fit their agenda. And their agenda is to drive things from the top down rather than to give liberty to the individual family and individual for how they believe their life should be best conducted.
SPEAKER 13 :
well and we’re going to talk about some of this legislation that’s going into well these laws that are going into effect and basically tomorrow with kevin lundberg before we can go to break i wanted to mention the center for american values which is located in pueblo colorado is non-political non-partisan focuses on several things. One is honoring our Medal of Honor recipients with their beautiful portraits of valor. It is a very inspiring and reverent place. I’d highly recommend that you take a trip to Pueblo to the Center for American Values, but also some great educational programs to reclaim, I would say, these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So for more information, go to AmericanValueCenter.org. That’s AmericanValueCenter.org. And another sponsor that I greatly appreciate is John Boson with Boson Law. We’ll talk with him in the next hour.
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SPEAKER 13 :
And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our Web site. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. And do check out the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. You can still make a tax deductible contribution for this year and support the foundation as they are raising the money for the remodel for the Marine Memorial Foundation. out at 6th and Colfax. And to do that, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Kevin Lundberg is on the line. He is a former state senator, also the author of the Lundberg Report. Lots of important comments coming in on the text line, Kevin, regarding our children. But let’s talk about just a few of these other laws that are going to be going into effect tomorrow. And they’re all about control, from what I can see. What’s your thoughts?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yeah, and actually a couple of things. One, a lot of the bills I’ve been talking about that have become law are already in effect. But you’re quite right. As of January 1st, there will be a few that will kick in gear at that point. One of them that I think is just absurd, and another one of those you can’t believe is happening, is the control on hens that lay eggs. They’ve changed the rules on what that means here in Colorado so that, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I was rather shocked a few weeks ago looking, I went to a grocery store and the egg section was empty and discovered it’s because all the suppliers couldn’t, or were gearing up for this new law that goes into effect tomorrow. And the price of eggs has just skyrocketed. I mean, it, it, It’s gone up nationally for other reasons, but here in Colorado, they just supercharged it with this new law. Now, the law, this is an interesting one, was actually passed in 2020. And that was, let’s see, what was it? House Bill 1343 back in 2020, but it said by January 1st, 2025, All hen-laying eggs in larger production facilities. Quite fortunately, my five hens are held safe, even though, frankly, they’re in a cage-free environment. Well, they’re in a cage because if they aren’t, the coyotes will eat them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right, to protect them.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I wrote an essay on that back in 2020, and I think we’ll see if we might republish that, because I said that what would happen is the prices would go up and we would see shortages, and that’s exactly what it is. And for a dozen eggs, I remember when it used to be $2.99. Right now I’m being charged $8.99 for a dozen eggs. And think about that family that would – cook eggs for their kids. It’s a great protein source. And here they’re getting squeezed because of that. And again, they passed it and then they put it out there so far in the future that they really don’t have to be accountable to the voters on that. And so we need to make some changes on that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, right. But do remember that the current governor is the one who signed that bill back in 2020. And he’s the same guy who signed the bill to reintroduce wolves in Colorado. And now the ranchers are, I mean, they knew what was going to happen. Believe me, that’s just another example of what’s happening. Here’s another one. And that is, it’s called secure firearm storage in a vehicle while unattended. Well… What that really means is if you carry a weapon in your car for any personal protection issues, and I know a lot of people who have done that regularly, well, now you’ve got to lock it up if you leave your car. Well, and lock it up doesn’t mean lock the door to your car. That means put it in the trunk or put it in a hard case so that you need a key to get into it. You have essentially disarmed the citizen. who considers a firearm to be an essential part of what they carry in their car. I think that’s completely unacceptable, but that’s another law that goes into effect tomorrow. You know, I already mentioned the child restraint laws. Well, here’s another one that has to do with your car, and that is that any driver… must use a hands-free system to make calls while driving. Now, I say any. Right now, it applies to youth, you know, a driver under 18, I think it is, which maybe is acceptable because we have kind of an incremental system of allowing somebody to drive. In other words, you get a learner’s permit at first, and there are certain restrictions, and then finally… When you’re 21, you’re considered to be ready to drive as an adult. Well, now the adults are told, but you can’t use your phone. Oh, but then if you look at the exceptions, it’s remarkable. Because if you’re a commercial driver, you can use your phone. If you’re an emergency police or emergency people, you can use your phone. And what I mean by use your phone is pick it up, dial it, hold it, talk to somebody. No, instead you restrict the hands-free. Well, some vehicles kind of accommodate that, but not everybody, not everything. There’s no exception there. So here’s another one of those control measures where they’re putting in place. It just goes on and on. Anyway, those are the ones that I have highlighted for going into effect on January 1st. But if you go through all the other lists, it’s just so extensive of what has already kicked in. You know, I… uh let me just scan through here i’ve got about 30 bills that i’ve identified um that i mean the the list couldn’t stop oh here’s one let me talk to you about oil and gas for a little bit because they threw a lot of controls on the oil and gas industry and we have just about a minute on on this so uh i know it’s just a silver lining thing i am so pleased that the president has selected Chris Wright to be his secretary of energy because this is a guy who works and lives in Colorado who understands the oil and gas industry like very few people can. I don’t know him personally, but I’ve heard him talk, and I just became a fan of him immediately. And now he is going to be running the energy department for our nation. I can’t help but think that he’s going to do some things that are going to help us back here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 13 :
I surely hope so. Kevin Lundberg, I so appreciate looking back and looking forward, and we’ll continue this. Last year during the legislative session, we had you on once a week, and hopefully we can do that as well. So I wish you and yours a very happy New Year.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, we haven’t talked about that, but it’s a deal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so it’s on the air. So happy New Year, Kevin Lundberg. We will talk very soon.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you. Happy New Year, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
Talking about.
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SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
That seems to me like government is establishing a religion. If you give people rights, women’s rights, gay rights, whatever, there can’t be equal rights if there are special rights. Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
SPEAKER 20 :
Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
SPEAKER 13 :
Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday and Happy New Year, Producer Joe. Happy New Year, Kim. 2025. We’ve got a lot to do in 2025, Joe, and I’m pretty excited about it. So fasten your seatbelts. We are pre-recording for tomorrow for New Year’s Day. We pre-recorded our number one yesterday with Susan Harris, a great sponsor of the show, the Harris family, and just really a good conversation looking back and looking forward. And then we will pre-record with Trent Luce here tomorrow. A little bit later this morning. And so but we’re we’re we’re in it. And as you all know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. And check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests and our most recent essays that comes out on Sundays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Text line is 720-605-0647. Thank you to all of you who support us because we are truly an independent voice. And you can listen to the show 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is broadcast 10 to 11 at night. And that is on all KLZ 560 platforms. That’s KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. So let’s get into it. Our word of the day is indignation. And it is spelled I-N-D-I-G indignation. N-A-T-I-O-N. And it could, number one, that’s a noun, it could be, definition is anger aroused by something perceived as unjust, mean, or unworthy. Anger. Number two, the feeling excited by that which is unworthy, base, disgraceful. Anger mingled with contempt, disgust, or abhorrence. And as this discussion that we had with Kevin Lundberg regarding legislation and the fact that this governor, Governor Jared Polis, has really been behind and pushing this transgender agenda with this radical activist extreme movement. legislature as well. This, my friends, this Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of JFK or of your grandpa and grandma. This has now been taken over by radical activists that are pushing ultimately a communist agenda of total control of the populace. And we in Colorado are at the tip of the spear on that. And it is with great indignation that I look at these agendas. And so your Your challenge is to use the word indignation in a word today and it’s spelled I-N-D-I-G-N-A-T-I-O-N, indignation. Our quote of the day is from Benjamin Franklin. And of course he was one of our founding fathers. He was a drafter and signer of the Declaration of Independence. And he said, without freedom of thought, there can be no wisdom and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech. And so over the last four years during the Biden-Harris administration, we have really seen this effort to shut down voices. And actually, it was even before that with political correctness, where people would self-censor because they did not want to offend someone else. And quite frankly, freedom of speech It’s the freedom to offend somebody. And ideally, we want to treat others with respect and not be mean in our speech. However, if somebody wants to do that, they can. And the old saying, The adage of sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. Words do hurt. They definitely do. But we need to figure out how to deal with that instead of trying to suppress speech. And that’s why we do the show is so that we can kick the tires on all of these different ideas, which is so important. And a wonderful sponsor of the show is the Boson Law Firm, John Boson. And John Boson, welcome. First of all, Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 06 :
Happy, healthy, and hopefully very healthy and prosperous New Year.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. I know we are all looking forward with hope and optimism towards 2025 with also, I think, a dose of realism. We know that we’re in a very difficult situation in our country and particularly here in Colorado, but I think people are rolling up their sleeves. They’re engaging in this battle of ideas, and that is so, so important. But I want to talk with you. First of all, what is your tips for New Year’s Eve on people staying safe?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, they’re out and about on the town. And I tell my kids this to this day. Even though they’re all adults, it’s still keep your head on a swivel. Be observant. Know what is going on around you. And don’t celebrate so much that you don’t know what’s going on around you. And if there’s a problem… Get away from it quickly, without hesitation.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. So good advice. I love the John Boson dad-isms. But let’s say something does happen. Somebody is involved in an accident. What are some tips that people should do?
SPEAKER 06 :
There’s so many. One of the most important things, if you’re the person that has been involved in the accident or the incident, and you’re able, do whatever you can to document what just happened. If it’s a motor vehicle collision, there’s people in the vehicle that are able, document. If folks come up and say, hey, I just saw what happened, make sure you get their name and their phone number. Call the police so they can do an official investigation and document and determine what happened and who was at fault. If it’s an incident, slip and fall. Document or have someone document what caused the fall, what caused the trip. If it’s ice, take pictures of what happened. If it’s a bad staircase or a railing that’s not set, take pictures. Document, document, document. And if possible, have other people document so that they can tell what happened, what they saw, what they observed. Photographs, videos, in this day and age, there’s really no excuse for someone not to have both of those things when something happens. Again, if they’re able, if they’re not, hopefully they’re with someone that can document or a good Samaritan or stranger can come up and hopefully provide that documentation. Super important. Because liability, why did it happen? Is someone at fault? It’s the first thing that needs to be accomplished if someone is going to pursue justice and get compensated for what happened to them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I think it seems like a no-brainer that we would say, okay, pull out your cell phone, take some pictures. But the other thing is that the adrenaline gets flowing if somebody’s involved, even in a fender bender. And sometimes, many times, people don’t really think straight. And so the fact that we talk about this on a regular basis, I think, is so important so that people can think, oh, remember about that. Because, again, if you’re involved in an accident, your adrenaline is really flowing, and sometimes you just don’t think clearly.
SPEAKER 06 :
It happens all the time. I talked with an individual yesterday. It was a fender bender. It wasn’t a huge accident, but he was injured. His car suffered property damage. They didn’t call the police. It was not his fault. He got a picture of the person’s ID, their driver’s license. You can’t read the name. You can’t make out the address, the license plate. He took a picture, but he didn’t look to see that he took a picture that you could look at later and tell who this person was. Didn’t get any insurance information. Didn’t even get a phone number. So it’s going to make it extraordinarily difficult. Didn’t take a picture of the person’s car or the license plate on the car. Nothing else. His adrenaline was flowing. He wasn’t thinking right. It’s going to be extraordinarily difficult to help this person at this point because we don’t know who that person was that hit him. tough one.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. Wow. Okay. So documentation, make sure that everything is clear on that. Wow. Okay. That’s so important. If somebody has been injured, document and then call Boson Law. What’s that number for Boson Law? 303-999-9999. And again, hopefully stay safe. That’s what we really want. But if in fact you are injured, give Bosun Law a call for a complimentary appointment or a phone call. And that number is 303-999-9999. John Bosun, I so appreciate you as a sponsor and I wish you and yours a joyful and healthy and prosperous 2025. Let’s fasten our seatbelts because we’re going to engage in this battle of ideas.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s just getting started, Kim, as you and I know. It’s a long battle, a lot of battles ahead of us.
SPEAKER 13 :
And we’re going to engage in those for sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
Well, we’ll stay on it, John Bosen, and we’ll talk with you next week. So thank you so much.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, Kim. Take care.
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SPEAKER 13 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. This industry is under legislative and regulatory attack here in Colorado, and yet Colorado is rich in these resources. And so it’s so important that we shed light on what is happening with all this because reliable energy allows us to control our own personal climate, to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And so that’s why we need to shed light on this. I am so pleased to have Erin Lee on the line. She is the executive director of Protect Kids Colorado. We want to look back and look forward. We talked a little bit about this with Kevin Lumberg in the first hour. Erin Lee, welcome. Hi, Kim. Happy New Year’s Eve. Happy New Year. And you are you are such an inspiration. And it started with your daughter going to what you thought was our club. It was a transgender indoctrination session. And of course, your journey is people can see that in the movie. artclubmovie.com for free. But you are out there working. Last year, we tried to get some initiatives on the ballot. It was not successful, but you’re not giving up. So let’s look back and let’s look forward with Protect Kids Colorado.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so we were formed in 2024. Actually, you mentioned Senator Kevin Lundberg was on earlier today. He was the person who brought together a group of mighty believers, legislators, pastors, movers and shakers, people that just cared about making positive change here in Colorado, especially surrounding this issue of the transgender contagion and the stranglehold that it has on our state in particular. And, you know, we recognize that it’s very hard to get common sense legislation through our legislature here in Colorado. And that citizens ballot initiatives are a great alternative for we the people to actually put forth just common sense, middle of the road legislation that most Coloradans can get on board with. And that’s what we learned in the process. You know, we ran two initiatives. We actually filed 20. And we went through a very hostile title board and only got two initiatives through. But one would have just prevented boys, biological males, from participating in female sports. And the other would have just said if you transition a child to the opposite sex at school, you must tell their parent. It wasn’t really preventing them from doing it, just ensuring that parents are informed. And what we found is that most Coloradans agreed with these issues. But we also found that most Coloradans had no idea that this was a problem. You know, a lot of people just don’t know anything. that these issues are affecting so many Colorado families. And so it was a tremendously successful education campaign of the people in the state to help educate on these issues and let them know that, yes, these are problems, here’s what we’re facing, and here’s some really easy solutions that we’re bringing forward.
SPEAKER 13 :
So you mentioned the title board and getting these initiatives on the ballot. I think there’s real politics that goes into that because you were continued to be delayed at the title board. And so what that did is that compressed the amount of time for your all-volunteer group to get signatures and to organize all volunteers. People are busy. I know me personally, I didn’t quite realize how long it actually takes because it’s not that I would just knock on a door. I decided to go to my neighbors. Then they wanted to talk about it. They wanted to understand it. And so it took a lot longer to get signatures than I realized that it was going to. So when the title board continued to challenge or have these challenges at the title board, it compressed that timeframe. So I know that that was an experience that you and the other board members are going to strategize on in the future.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. So we should have had six months to collect signatures. And we started the process back in November of 2023. So we started filing these initiatives and going through the process. We went before the title board January 3rd. of 2024 that’s when we kicked it off and they they did it’s comprised of the secretary of state representative and attorney general representative and then legislative legal services and as you can imagine in this state the ag and the sos are not friendly to issues like ours and their job is to be objective and to simply determine if these initiatives are a single subject but they went so far as to say the word parent was too broad to be a single subject So it was clear right off the bat that this was not an objective process, that there was bias being demonstrated. And so we had hurdles we didn’t anticipate going into this first round. And when we finally got the initiatives through, we had less than 100 days to get the signatures. But we did rally over 1,000 volunteers in a very short amount of time, and we got nearly 70,000 signatures of the required 125,000 signatures. which means that if we had had that full timeline, we would have been the first all-volunteer effort to get these issues on the ballot. So we really pulled out a tremendous volunteer effort with such a limited timeline. But going into the next round, we are aware. of the bias that’s being demonstrated. We’re aware of these hurdles, and we will be tackling it way in advance to ensure that we have that six-month timeline. And we hope that Coloradans will jump in. You know, like you said, you took some petitions, and all you have to do is talk to your neighbors, talk to the people at church, talk to your mom group. Everyone knows someone who agrees that these issues are important in Colorado.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, what happened with me, Erin, is I thought, oh, I go to all these different organizations, and so I’ll be able to get signatures. Well, all my buddies were carrying petitions as well, and they beat me to it. So what I ended up doing was walking my neighborhood and just knocking on doors. And I talked with neighbors I hadn’t for a while. And so, again, that took time as well, just the catch-up. But they were not aware of what this agenda is doing here in Colorado and to our children. And so the two initiatives that made it through, like you say, just common sense, that if a child is wanting to be using different pronouns or there’s also this whole different species thing that parents were not even aware of. and that the parents just needed to know. That’s just as common sense. And then keeping boys out of girls’ locker rooms. I think just about everybody agrees on that. It’s crazy that we would have boys in girls’ locker rooms.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s crazy that we can’t get these things passed through the legislature. You know, last year they passed 1039, which is the non-legal name change, which now compels teachers’ speech. It forces any public educator to socially transition a child. And this was really a way for us to say, okay, we couldn’t stop that, but you need to tell parents. And when it was going through the legislature, we pushed really hard for an amendment to just make sure parents are informed. and that you know democrats just unilaterally across the board were against it And so this was really a way for us to say, okay, we can’t win on overturning that law in the legislature. But most Coloradans agree parents shouldn’t be lied to. And it has a great damaging effect on these kids. Our story is a perfect example. As you said, you know, Kevin and I put out Art Club Movie. It’s artclubmovie.com just a few months before we started this effort because it was important to let people know, yes, this is happening in Colorado. This is not an isolated issue. And since I’ve come forward, I’ve worked with hundreds of families here in Colorado. I’m actually working with a few families now that fled to Colorado from California in order to not lose custody of their children for not affirming their gender identity. And I fear that we’re not far behind yet. here in Colorado, that the laws that they’re passing around this issue are such that parents could potentially lose custody of their kids for not going along with the gender transition. And as I learned in my family, it was incredibly damaging for my daughter to adopt that identity. It nearly took her life trying to go on this impossible pursuit to change her sex. And thank God we were able to not affirm and help her get through that. But most families aren’t so lucky. So it’s not a remote issue. It’s absolutely affecting hundreds of Coloradans. And it’s important that we pass some kind of a law that protects these kids from being socially transitioned behind parents’ backs.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the website is protectkidscolorado.org. And I love this quote that you have on the website. It says, everyone has a deep-rooted responsibility to protect our kids. And we do, whether or not it’s grandparents, parents, community members, that is something that is absolutely fundamental for a society to thrive and flourish. And so I think that’s such an important quote that you have there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, we all have a responsibility. I mean, there’s no one more worth protecting than innocent children. And it was amazing to see all the people come together today. in this effort. It was grandparents, you know, the gays against groomers stepped in, the radical feminists who, you know, I fundamentally disagree on just about everything with, but we agree that men aren’t women and that we should protect women’s faces and we should protect the most vulnerable, which is the children in Colorado. So there’s really no effort that’s more worth getting involved in than protecting innocent children in the state.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, and so what can people do right now in preparation for 2025? Because we really need to roll up our sleeves and do something about this. So what should people do?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so obviously our effort takes funding. We are entirely grassroots. So we’re all volunteers. As I said, we’re all believers that came together to do kingdom work to protect kids. And so we need funding in order to run these initiatives. It’s not a free process. And also people can sign up to volunteer. And as you experienced, that can be as easy as carrying a petition and trying to get 80 signatures once we get to that point, which will probably be about four to six months from now once we tackle the title board. And we’ll be bringing very similar issues, again, very middle of the road, common sense, protecting kids. So I encourage people to donate if you can. It’s still one day left here in the year end. And also sign up to volunteer. And that will look differently for everybody. But we’ll have lots of opportunities to help educate, to carry petitions, to show up at the legislature this session, to make our voices heard. We’ve learned leading up to this process that not a lot of people show up in Colorado to pay attention to the laws that are being passed. And if more of us would show up to make our voice heard, and you can do that remotely via Zoom, then we could potentially make change and not even have to get to this ballot initiative process by utilizing the mighty now 21 in the Colorado House. So sign up to volunteer, donate if you can, and sign up for our email list to just stay involved with what we’re doing. We’ll have a lot of event opportunities, volunteer opportunities, and ways to get involved this year.
SPEAKER 13 :
And is the contributions tax deductible?
SPEAKER 12 :
So we are a C4. They are not. But if there’s a large contributor, I would love to speak with them about our C3 sponsor.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, that’s great. We’re going to continue the discussion with Erin Lee. She’s the executive director of ProtectKidsColorado.org. And we’re at the tip of the spear on this particular issue here in Colorado. And so it is so important that we understand it. And so we’ll continue the discussion. This happens because of our great sponsors. And one of those is Lavaca Meat Company. And Lavaca is located on the corner of Maine and Nevada in Old Littleton. And it is really a premium product. It is truly the steakhouse experience at home. So be sure and check out Lavaca Meat Company.
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SPEAKER 13 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I mentioned I’m an independent voice. That is why… and your support is so, so important. But just wanted to mention the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. They know that there are unknowns that can keep you up at night, and that is why they can help with your insurance and health insurance needs to replace lost income. So call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, that Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team is there. I’m talking with… the executive director of Protect Kids Colorado. That website is protectkidscolorado.org. And Aaron Lee, we seem to be, again, at the tip of the spear with all of this radical transgender activism attacks on our children. On the national level, President-elect Donald Trump has said that he is going to work to protect kids. How is all this going to match up?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I mean, our country clearly sent a strong message that we’re sick of woke. We’re tired of this transgender agenda and we’re ready for a new direction. But as we saw with the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Trump respects state rights. And it’s my firm belief that Colorado will get worse before it gets better. You know, we’re one of 24 states that has not passed laws to protect kids from gender ideology. 26 states have banned gender mutilation of children in the name of gender ideology and have sought to protect girls’ sports. But we’re in one of the states that has gone the opposite direction, has really doubled down and advanced this transgender agenda. And so I do believe that we’re going to have a bigger fight here in these states, especially here in Colorado, once Trump takes office. Now, there are some issues that he’s made clear. He wants to protect girls’ sports. He wants to prevent the mutilation of children. He’s clearly taking a stand against it. But on issues like the one that is most personal to me, notifying parents that children have been transitioned at school and preventing schools from teaching kids gender ideology in first grade, which, by the way, is now a state mandate in the state of Colorado. Schools are now required to teach kids about trans and queer starting in first grade. So I do believe the fight will get even harder here. And we’re going to need national help from the states that are preventing these issues to step in and help us fight back and hold the line. What happens in Colorado does not stay here.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I think it is correct that it’s a state issue, and I think we need to honor that. So that means, again, we roll up our sleeves and we go to work on this. Now, you are up in Larimer County, and it seems like up in Larimer County that that is ground zero for this fight regarding this in public schools. Is that too much of an overstatement, Erin Lee? Yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Not at all. You know, my top two worst districts are Jeffco and Poudre here in Larimer County. And if you look at the funding of these two districts, Pat Stryker lives in Fort Collins and Tim Gill largely funds Jeffco. So for anyone who’s read The Blueprint or has looked into how Colorado flipped blue, these are two billionaires and millionaires that are funding the transgender movement. And so it’s no surprise that their money pours into the Larimer County and to Jeffco schools. and that they’re really leading the charge, those two districts, on lying to parents, transitioning children, you know, boys sleeping in the girls’ room, teaching these kind of ideologies, and really doubling down on it. Now, I have an ongoing lawsuit against the Poudre School District. Actually, Pam Bondi, who’s going to be our next attorney general, took our case. So I’m represented by America First Policy Institute. And they’ll be here on January 21st, arguing our appeal on the 10th Circuit here in Denver. And so there’s a lot at stake here in our case as to defining parents and ensuring that parents aren’t lied to. So Colorado really is ground zero for this agenda, and Puder and Jeffco are leading the charge.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and Erin Lee, as I was doing my voter’s guide for the 2024 election, there were a number of different school districts that were asking for new funding for bonds or for mill levy overrides. And most of them passed because people think education of our children is important, which it is. However, as I was researching these different school districts, even the best uh school district a 60 yeah about 60 of the kids maybe it’s 50 i’ll say that 50 of the kids in third grade cannot read and write at grade level but but and one of the reasons is because we’ve taken our focus off of really educating our kids if you have a teacher that is having to have this whole pronoun thing and play that pronoun game, it takes the focus off of reading, writing, arithmetic, civic studies, all of those things. And our kids are getting dumbed down. So not only are they being told that boys are girls and girls are boys, they’re also getting dumbed down at the same time.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Statewide, that number is actually closer to 70 percent of children cannot read or do math at grade level. And as you said, the reason is we’ve dumbed down the curriculum, but we’ve also put such a focus on administration. So well-meaning people, I mean, we all want our public schools to do well. We want our kids to succeed. And people think that when they vote for these mill levies, their money will go to the right people. parts of the school districts. But the reality is that since this happened with my daughter four years ago, our district has added millions of dollars in administration. So we’ve got a new superintendent and he just keeps adding new administrative roles like an LGBTQ coordinator and a DEI coordinator. And none of this helps the kids succeed academically. We’re just throwing more money at DEI, at administration, at these initiatives like comprehensive sex ed and teaching kids about transgenderism in first grade. And it does not do anything to help them succeed in life, really. The money is being squandered. And it broke my heart to see every single one of the school districts get that money. Because we know it’s not going to go towards helping kids. It’s not going to go towards teacher pay even. Our teachers are so underserved. And unfortunately, their administrations are just they don’t care about the teachers or the students. They care about pushing these agendas. That’s very clear. And a lot of the reason they ask for more money is because COVID funds ran out and they got used to spending it on these things like a bigger administrative staff.
SPEAKER 13 :
So what can we do? I’ve mentioned this on the air. So Trump with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy has started DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency. And I think that we need to have DOGE Colorado. We need to have DOGE Poudre School District. where we go in and take a look at the money as citizens, shed light on where this money is being spent. And for example, any federal grants that are coming down to push agendas, I think that we need to encourage our municipalities, our school districts, our counties to not take the money. And that would start to, I think, affect this printing of money in Washington, D.C. I know this is a big order, but But I think if we cut the money off, that’ll be a big step in the right direction, Erin Lee.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that’s a big order. I think so much of the change that needs to be made here in Colorado needs to happen at the local level. Parents, grandparents, concerned citizens, they need to pay attention to what the school board is doing. Go to the school board meeting or watch it back. Most of them record it and put it on replay on YouTube. Watch what your school board is doing. Show up and make your voice heard. Suggest these things. Most school districts have a district advisory council or a district advisory board. where parents can get involved or grandparents and make these suggestions directly to their school boards. Because we are a local control state. School boards have, you know, majority of the control. The state board dictates the curriculum, sorry, not the curriculum, but the standards. But districts get to choose their own curriculum. They get to choose how they spend their money. We really need to start making our voices heard at a local level. We have seen change happen when people collectively get together and show up and make their voice heard to their school board. Change can be made.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so let’s, young families, they’re just trying to keep everything together, I think. There’s so many different pressures on them, and so many of them do not think that this agenda is occurring in their school. And there’s so many teachers that got into the profession because they just want to teach because they love children. What would you say to these young families and these teachers that are getting caught Colorado?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, well, as a parent of three kids in three different schools, I can’t stress enough that are not traditional public schools. I can’t stress enough that we’ve got to get our kids out of the public school system. You know, I draw attention to what they’re doing to try to help parents be aware, but I think we’re going to have to hit them in the wallet. And I’m hitting them with lawfare, as are other parents here in the state. But the nonsense will stop when the money stops flowing in. And it’s our tax dollars from sending our kids to these schools. So I firmly believe that every parent should consider pulling their kids out of traditional public schools. And as you said, parents think that it’s not happening to them. It’s not happening in their schools. I thought the same thing. And then it was too late when it did happen. And oftentimes it’s so subtle. You know, they’re starting these pronoun conversations in kindergarten. They’re starting lessons about Harvey Milk and sex work in first grade. They’re reading books about how boys can become girls in second grade. It’s been just inserted into every area of of our public education system here in Colorado. And it’s no longer safe for parents to send their kids to public schools. I truly believe that. I took a night job to pay for private Christian school for my daughter. I drive 30 minutes each way to take my son to a conservative charter. We sacrificed for our kids. But I like to tell parents, you either sacrifice for your kids or you are sacrificing your kids on this altar of wokeism. And oftentimes it’s so subtle, you can’t even detect that the indoctrination is happening to your kids. So I firmly believe parents should pull their kids out. And if not, pay more attention and take a more active role. I know that requires sacrifice, but there’s nothing more important than protecting our children.
SPEAKER 13 :
So that is the next thing is, is if people in any school that their child is in, how can we get transparency on these books? And one of the first things I think that we need to go back to books and paper, because when kids are on computers or iPads, all that stuff can disappear. And so how do we get transparency in what our kids are being shown?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it should be easy. Parents should be able to ask and be shown. We even tried to pass a law in 2022 that just said if a parent asks, you must show them. And unfortunately, that’s not a law here in Colorado. We don’t have full curriculum transparency. And that means parents have to work a little bit harder. But I just caution parents to read everything that comes home. Send a message to the teacher on the first day of school and say, here’s what I will and will not tolerate. If these issues are being presented to my kids, I expect to be notified. And open every book that comes home and utilize the power of public record request. I didn’t know what that was prior to our incident happening, but Colorado Open Record Act enabled any citizen to request anything a school district is doing, be it curriculum, finances, outside party involvement. You are the person funding your school district and they are beholden to you. And so utilize public record requests if you have to, but just ask for the materials first and open everything that comes home.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, super important. And again, Erin Lee, your final thought, and that website is protectkidscolorado.org, and you can sign up to volunteer and make a contribution there. Your final thought.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, and just encourage people to watch artclubmovie.com to really understand the issue and share it with others because it starts with education, and then we can move on to the phase of making change. But our first responsibility is just to inform our neighbors of what’s happening.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, absolutely. Erin Lee, thank you so much. And I wish you and yours a very joyful and healthy and prosperous 2025. We’ll talk again very soon. Thanks, Ken. And when I think about protecting kids and what Erin Lee is doing and Kevin Lundberg and Lori Gimmelstein and Rich Guggenheim and Patty McKernan, Linda White, all of these people that I know that are working diligently to protect Kids Colorado, I also take great heart from the stories of our Medal of Honor recipients today. that are highlighted at the Center for American Values because they were protecting those around them as well. And that is why they took action when the situation presented itself, to protect those around them. And I take great heart from their story. So be sure and check out the Center for American Values. That is AmericanValuesCenter.org. That’s AmericanValuesCenter.org. And for everything mortgages, whether or not a first, second, or reverse mortgage, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. I did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. You can make a tax-deductible contribution today and get that in for 2024 and help with the remodel. You can get more information about all that by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And I didn’t see this until afterwards regarding to do a CORA request, an open records request. Does it cost something? I think that it does, but I realize, and thank you, Mary, for that question. I think that we’ll actually get a featured guest on about CORA and what that is exactly, and we’ll try to get that sooner versus later so that people can know what to do. So call in line is 303-477-5600. We have Ron on the line. Ron, what is on your radar?
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Kim. Good morning and Happy New Year. Happy New Year. When you were talking about the children, they’ve been attacking them with sports as well as, you know, like field days. They no longer have winners or losers. And everybody wins, supposedly. But what that does is it takes away from children how to deal with adversity. So whether you win or lose and striving to be better, but it takes away their ability to handle adversity. And I think the governor and the mayor, illegitimate governor and illegitimate mayor, realize this, and that’s what they’re pushing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I think to your point, we’ve not been teaching adversity and resiliency like we used to because we all have adversity and we need to be resilient, teach our kids to be resilient. And I think that that even plays out in the suicide of our children as well by just these subtle things, Ron.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. And when kids, that’s why they just don’t know how to handle it when it comes up and you’re an adult. That’s why they attack them while they’re children and affects them when they go into the military. And people with weak constitutions try to push it onto the children so they can justify their weak constitution.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s a really interesting point, Ron. And so again, that is another thing that we need to be teaching. And it can be through these different stories, the stories of our founders, the stories of our Medal of Honor recipients. We need to be highlighting these stories of people that have overcome adversity and resiliency. So Ron, thank you so much. I wish you and yours a very joyful and healthy and prosperous 2025. We’ll talk to you in 2025.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Kim. You too. Goodbye.
SPEAKER 13 :
And Gammy is on the line. And Gammy, you are so on top of this whole transgender issue. What’s on your radar?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, my two heroes are on here, so I have to say hello, happy new year, and hope to see you in the new one because I might be turning a little older, but I’m getting more fierce now.
SPEAKER 13 :
And let me be the first to wish you happy birthday. Your birthday is tomorrow.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you. Right, after midnight. I may have been the first baby born in Wiesbaden in 1950, but I’m not sure. It was like four in the morning. Don’t remember for sure. Right, to the issue. You’re so spot on. But one of the things that is so insidious is remember Matt Walsh did his movie, What is a Woman? And then the other movie, American Groomer, that’s now being made available by Karen England. It’s only like 30 some minutes. You’ve got to watch it. You can get a rumble, you know, YouTube, wherever. But what people are not aware of as parents, one of the big issues is is that the American College of Pediatricians did a big press conference and released their findings against all procedures, mental and physical, chemical, against any minors. And their idea of minors is over 21 because of certain parts of the brain don’t develop to, like, what, your mid-20s. And then the spine, you know, and other things. But you have got counselors here. clinics being set up in every school possible all over the nation. And what’s happening is half of these counselors are not qualified. They’re inept, period. And they’re so into the dogma, like the Trevor Project is surveys. It’s not science. And the whole trans movement is not psychology. It is mental science. ideology of mental illness. And yet they’re using these things to create the gender confusion. So our target as parents, as citizens, is those counselors in every school in America and the curricula created by both Cassell, S-E-L, social emotional learning, and all of the other rich billionaires paying for all this curricula, the guilds, the strikers, the bridges, the Pritzkers and the Rothblats and others. They are putting the curricula in here, and it translates into Julie Bailing’s Beneath Sheep’s Clothing. It translates into Marxist Terrorism and Destruction of Western Civilization.
SPEAKER 13 :
It is, and Gammy, you are so spot on and you are so informed on this. And I just saw this come through on X from Leading Report. It says, Harry Potter creator J.K. Rowling states that there is no such thing as a transgender child and that no child is born in the wrong body. And my, my, my, they’re going to be going after her, Gammy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, they are. And they’re after Aaron. They’re after you. They’re after all of us. And I’ve made a decision, you know, I’m going to take more training. I’m going to start back at my self-defense, you know, because I had to recover from my surgery. But I’m going back. I wrote that big letter here just two weeks ago, you know, to all the legislators or, you know, as many as I could get my hands on and commissioners.
SPEAKER 13 :
And what is so important, Gammy, is because we’re just about out of time, is you truly do walk your talk and you really do care about our children. And I know that you’re fervent on this because you’ve looked under the hood. You see what is really happening to our children. And I appreciate all of the great work that you are doing on this. So, Gammy, I wish you happiness. A really joyful and healthy and prosperous 2025. We’ll roll our sleeves up and we have work to do, Gammy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, ma’am, we do. And I’m with you. And I love all of y’all. And I love our kids to the last drop of my blood. I’m in this.
SPEAKER 13 :
I know that you are. And it is so important that we shed light on this. So it’s great to have Kevin Lundberg on. And he, with Aaron Lee and John Lee, created this movie to know more about this. It’s artclubmovie.com. You can watch it for free. And I would highly recommend that you do that so that you understand what is going on, because we have a responsibility to protect our children, to protect those around us. And we are in this significant battle of ideas. It’s a battle of good versus evil. It’s not really left versus right or Democrat versus Republican. It is really right or wrong, good versus evil. And we are dedicated to stay in this battle of ideas that is raging here in Colorado. We are at the tip of the spear. And I’m very encouraged, though. We’ve got a lot that’s happening. So our quote for the end of this show is from Benjamin Franklin. He said, So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. You’re not alone. God bless you, God bless America, and Happy New Year.
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