In this episode of the Kim Monson Show, Kim and her guest Brad Beck delve into the intricate relationship between politics, freedom, and environmental management. With engaging discussions on the power dynamics within government bureaucracies and the true meaning of altruism, listeners are invited to consider their roles in shaping societal values. This episode also ventures into personal responsibility amidst disaster preparedness, emphasizing the power of individuals to influence change amidst governmental guidance.
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It’s the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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I find that it takes work to get your brain around these ideas, and it takes work to engage in these conversations.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it’s not.
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Today’s current opinions and ideas.
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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. Welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And the girls were over last night, and so I had ordered the Hooters Wings special for Wednesday. Buy 20 wings, get an additional 10 for free, and that’s always a real treat. And Hooters has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. and a great place to get together with friends for lunch specials, and lots of football games this weekend as well. In studio with me is my good friend, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters, Brad Beck, sometimes host of the show. Great to have you here.
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Great to be here. Good to see you, Kim. It’s the first time we’ve seen each other this new year, so Happy New Year. Happy New Year. And Happy New You, because that’s my article.
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I love this article. I just love it. So we’re going to be talking about that in the third and fourth segment of this show. We’ll be rolling that out this weekend in the newsletter. So I’d highly recommend that people sign up for our newsletter at Kim Monson. That’s M-O-N-S-O-N.com. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. Thank you to all of you who support us. The text line, and we do want to hear from you, is 720-605-0647. And the show broadcasts 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. The second hour, 10 to 11 at night. This is on all KLZ platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And then the shows also can be heard within about 24 hours on Spotify and iTunes and all of the streaming services. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity on this show by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. And Brad, I think the list has gotten longer since the last time you were here.
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I’m sure it has.
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Yeah, and you and I have both seen this in government, where under the guise of compassion, bureaucrats, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties will talk about being altruistic, about doing something good for someone else. It’s a government program, but what we’ve learned is you can’t give to someone else unless you’ve taken it from somebody over here, right?
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Exactly. And even the term altruism, most people think it’s being generous. And the problem with that, the origin of that word, altruism, comes from Auguste Comte, the philosopher, and it means other-ism. And so you should sacrifice for others by the force of government. I believe in benevolence. I believe if you can, whatever way, whether your time or your treasure, help somebody, that’s great. But the force of government, I’m totally against. So I’ve never liked that word, altruism.
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Well, and what happens with these government programs is those PBIs that are being so altruistic with somebody else’s money, they have to make those programs work. So they have to take a cut across the top as the money goes by.
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Well, we both have family in Southern California, and you can see that in action. The mismanagement, what’s going on with the fires in Pacific Palisades and the Eaton Fire up north. And my daughter lives in the San Fernando Valley, as my brother and sister do. My father lives in Oceanside. It’s just unconscionable, and it’s unbelievable. I mean, I’m just getting reports all the time in Texas, and it’s just devastating. And I know those areas well. I grew up in that area.
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You grew up there. I wanted to ask you about that. I’ve seen the pictures of just abandoned vehicles, people trying to get away. And that’s one of the times where I think you want to make sure you have a full tank of gas. And that’s where I would really not want an EV. If my EV is not charged and if there’s problems with there’s no electricity, again, for a safety standpoint, I would like to have my combustion engine, my freedom of mobility, my gas tank full so that I could get out of there.
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People need to be prepared. I went through the Northridge earthquake. I wasn’t home at the time, but I was out of town on business, flew back. And thankfully, I had all the things you need to survive, you know, water, food, a place to stay. It was unbelievable. So if you’ve ever gone through a disaster and you’re not prepared… You know, you hit that DEFCON 1 button and you just freak out. You react. If you’re prepared, just like any disaster, snow, fire, rain, you know, if you have a flood, you need to be prepared. And that takes forethought. And not enough people do it. They say, oh, the government will come here. And that’s what I’m hearing from officials in Southern California. Oh, we need the federal government. It’s like, no, you don’t. Get prepared beforehand. Yeah, they can assist at certain times, but… You know, when I hear elected representatives saying we need Washington, they have the wrong attitude.
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And, yeah, we each have individual responsibility. Apparently, Trump, I didn’t see his speech the other day, but the girls, as I said, they were over last night and they said that he talked about water in his speech quite a bit. And there’s been, I really think, water mismanagement in California. I remember years ago, I called it the Delta smelta, which was this little smelt fish that they actually were forcing farmers to send their water on down the river into the ocean and obviously making California drier, affecting our food source. Again, for this little, I call it the Delta smelta.
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Well, there’s a lot of mismanagement in the sense, just like we have here in Colorado, where we need more water storage. And because of all the environmental impact studies and all the environmentalists that are radicalized, they won’t let that happen. They won’t let new facilities be built. And if they are being built or expanded, it takes years and years. And so, you know, California, especially Southern California, two, three years of good rain. And then all of a sudden now they’re in a deficit. And all that water that goes out to the Pacific Ocean from all those floods and rains that come in, they could have saved that somewhere. Right. And they didn’t have a chance. They couldn’t. And then in Central California and Sacramento Valley and up in the San Francisco area, they just let it run to the ocean. And it’s unfortunate because we should be focusing on people and then the environment. Otherwise, people say we can do both. Yeah, we can, but you’ve got to plan for it. And my feeling is people come first.
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Well, and the other thing, environmentalists, they’re always talking about the air, right? Air quality. Well, you take a look at these fires. The air quality is pretty crummy.
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It’s unbelievable.
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So it’s not really about wanting to make sure that we’re taking care of air and water. And we’ve learned about this on the show. The environmentalists are anti-human.
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Yeah.
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And we can coexist as humans on our earth and be good stewards of our earth. But we’re learning that these environmentalists just don’t like human beings. And so that’s why I think that we have all of this mismanagement.
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Well, if you focus on what the real opportunities are for success, you have to have freedom. And in freedom, you have better environmental conditions. You look at what the former Soviet Union was or Eastern Europe. They’re still dealing with all the fallout from communism and socialism. And their environments are terrible. And yet you come here in the West. Our regulations, and there should be some good regulations, but not as much as there currently is. There’s way too much.
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Right. They’re trying to put these businesses, these oil and gas, coal businesses, out of business. And as we talk about it all the time, the oil, natural gas, and coal, they are abundant, reliable, efficient, and affordable. Well, they’re trying to make it more expensive. Affordable products. uh power for our lives and that’s all under assault so let’s get next week drill baby drill right drill baby that’s right the show comes to you because of our sponsors and thank you to the harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show Our word of the day, Brad, is fruition. And in the spirit of Toastmasters, we have a word of the day. Your challenge is to use it in a sentence. It’s spelled F-R-U-I-T-I-O-N. It’s a noun. And it’s the realization of something desired or worked for. Accomplishment. Number two, it could be enjoyment derived from use or possession. And the condition of bearing fruit. And I think that so many people are excited about all the work that was done on this last election with the fruition of the inauguration that’s coming up soon.
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It’s going to be a beautiful thing. I think we’re going to have a different attitude. I think businesses are going to start really flourishing or growing. see the fruits of their labor. And because of that, so many people worked hard to even look at the 75th General Assembly yesterday started. Hold your wallets. But, you know, with hard work, you get more freedom and we can’t let our laurels rest. We need to be engaged all the time. So we have that fruition of success.
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Well, and one of the girls last night said that Trump basically got a wedge in the door for freedom, I would say. But we all each individually have a lot of work to do. Our quote of the day, I wanted to get to this, and then we’re going to be talking with Drew Dix, who, one of the co-founders of the Center for American Values here in just a moment. Medal of Honor recipient. But yesterday when we were talking with Colonel Rutledge about Greenland, Drew texted me, said, well, I was in Greenland. I’m like, do you want to talk about it? Because Greenland’s in the news right now, Brad. But our quote of the day is from James Madison. And he said this, and he was born in 1751, died in 1836. He was one of our founding fathers. He’s known as the father of the Constitution. And he said this, there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.
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Well, he was probably our shortest president, I think at 5’2″, 5’2 1⁄2″, but his stature was great because of his ability to write and to think and to be there during the founding of this country. So he was a giant.
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He was a giant. And last year I was in Virginia. I visited Monticello. in the Montpelier, just standing in his library was just so cool. It was so cool. The show comes to you because of our sponsors, and make sure that you have the proper insurance coverage. And the best way to do that is to reach out to the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team for a complimentary appointment. That number is 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something’s a good idea. We’ll see you next time. Well, you’ve seen me at the very beginning because we’ve talked about it at Liberty Toastmasters. I had crashed and burned in front of about 1,000 people, and I’d lost my confidence. And so you’ve been with me for this whole journey.
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Well, and I appreciate the opportunity to host from time to time and be a co-host when called upon. So it’s been a privilege.
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Well, great. And we had Drew on the line, and then something happened with that. So while we’re waiting to get him on the line again, Brad, okay, I’ve forgotten about this. It says the governor of California is also on a mission to destroy four dams if he has not already done so. So not only are they not letting us build water storage, they’re destroying our water storage.
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It’s a damn shame.
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Yeah, it is.
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It’s unfortunate.
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It’s really, really crazy.
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Without water, you have no growth, no opportunity for businesses to grow. Right. You need energy and water.
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Yeah, and food. And food. Food’s a pretty good thing, too, as well. Okay, we have Drew Dix back on the line. Drew Dix is a co-founder of the Center for American Values, which is a place that I dearly love. And their website is AmericanValueCenter.org. And we want to talk with them about Greenland. But before that, they’ve got a great event coming up on the 23rd of January. Drew Dix, welcome to the show.
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Good to be here, Kim. And always good to talk to you about the center, too.
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Well, you do amazing work. It’s nonpartisan and nonpolitical, focused on these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. But you’ve got a very important event coming up on the 23rd. I am sorry to miss it, because I will be with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. But this is regarding the USS Pueblo. And tell us just a little bit about this, Drew.
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Yeah, Kim, sorry that we’re going to miss you, but you’re doing good work with the taxpayer deal. We need your help there. But So Bob Chica was one of the crew members of the Pueblo in January 1968 when it was captured by the North Koreans. And he has a great story, and he’s going to be at the center. It’s open to the public. Just ask you to call to make reservations or at least let us know, get a head count so we have room. If you can call 719-543-9502, we’d like to have you. You’re really going to enjoy it, and it’s a nice place on the Riverwalk to spend some time. If you have any questions, you can look up the website, AmericanValueCenter.org, and there’s information about the program as well.
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Right, and that will start at 4 o’clock on the 23rd. And these programs, these on-value programs that you put on, Drew, They’re really many times once-in-a-lifetime experiences. I’ve been down and had the great honor to emcee some of these events and really to rub shoulders with heroes. It’s really a great opportunity, so I’d recommend that people check this out at AmericanValueCenter.org. That event is Thursday, January 23rd at 4 p.m., and it’s going to be very special.
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Yeah, and I think it’s a good idea for parents maybe to bring their kids – to see a little bit of history about what the country went through over the years. It gives a new outlook on how things are. There’s a lot going on in the country, and we need to remember the sacrifices made for all those that brought us to where we are.
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And absolutely. And we have a responsibility now because we do stand on the shoulders of giants. But let’s shift gears, Drew, because yesterday Colonel Bill Rutledge was on. He’s 96 years young. He’s traveled the world. has this great interest in people and places and he’d been stationed in Greenland. And of course, Greenland is in the news because Donald Trump is saying maybe Greenland will become part of America. And you texted me and said that you had been stationed in Greenland for some time. So I thought, let’s hear about your experience.
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Well, I’d like to add to what Colonel Rutledge, you know, he’s a remarkable guy and he’s done a lot of things. I guess when you’re 96, and like me, I’m 80 now, so that means we’ve done a lot if we hadn’t just sat around on our hands. But no, in between 1984 and 95, I worked on a project for the U.S. government out on the sea ice, and we would launch our project originally from Thule, which Colonel Rutledge talked about. It’s an air base there. But then we moved further north to Station Nord, about 750 miles north of Thule, at the very top of Greenland, which is an air base up there manned by five Danish. Five. And they keep it open. It’s part of a traditional presence for Denmark as ownership of Greenland, I guess. And what they do is not only man that airfield, which was for emergency landing for cross-polar flights, I guess, during World War II and during peacetime, but also… We used to run these projects out there, put floating ice stations from 84 to 95 because of the vulnerability of Soviet attacks on the Arctic Ocean from submarines. And the importance of it is that submarines can hide under the ice and actually fire missiles through the ice. I believe they calculated it was like a 20-minute flight from there to New York by missile. So didn’t have a lot of lead time. So I was fortunate to be called in about 1984 because of the new effort that they wanted to establish these ice stations in New York. and install devices that could help track the Soviet submarine. The project originally was classified, no longer is. There’s been a lot written from the government about it. But the thing that’s important is President Trump realizes the importance of our national security and how strategic Greenland is. So I was kind of excited at the fact that at least he’s talking about it, And because it was the Russians and the Chinese are well equipped to work in the ice up there. And the U.S. is not. We’ve got three old icebreakers. They got 30 or 40 of them. So we’re behind the power curve. And I think the president is on something to see if he can’t secure a deal with the Greenlanders or the Danes and or the Danes. So it’s. But it’s a remarkable place. It’s so vast. And the population is so small. There’s around 60,000 total people living on Greenland. And nothing above 750 miles south of Greenland and north. There’s not many other than those five days. And one or two Eskimo villages… that are on the coast, and they’re not totally occupied all year either. So that’s pretty exciting times. He hadn’t called me up to ask me what he ought to do, but I think that it’s important that the people know that it’s just not a matter of trying to take some land. There’s a purpose behind it.
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Well, Drew, this is fascinating, but I have to ask you about these ice stations, or what can you tell us about that? That had to be, how many of you were in this ice station and what was that like?
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Well, the Soviet at the time, they had ice stations, but theirs were on floating icebergs, which were more stable. We chose to use floating ice, so we spent a lot of time searching for a multi-year ice blow, in other words, thicker than about seven feet, so we could operate on there. We concentrated in the North Pole, not just because it’s the North Pole, but the ice was tighter up there, and it’s constantly moving, and it has a gyration clockwise. And so we would concentrate on the North Pole area. So the station we put in and the ice we selected for that station had survivability that wouldn’t crunch up and we’d lose whatever we established there. There was two of us that would spend time looking for these ice stations or the right ice for our needs. And the pole, North Pole from Station Nord was about 575 miles away, so much closer than from Alaska and other places. And that’s why we would go to Greenland. But initially when we parachuted in there because there was no way to land if we didn’t have the right ice. So we spent a lot of time looking to make sure we could carve a little skiway out of there so we could get an aircraft to land and pull us out of there when we were done. But initially there was two of us and then we would bring in a team of five or six additional folks. And we also did a little, brought in a few science guys, quote science, whatever they were drilling and determining what was going on up there. So we would go in and around the 21st of March, and that’s when the sun comes up. And we would stay until about the first week in May, and then the ice gets a little rotten. But no, it was very, very successful program. We’re not doing it now in that manner. But yeah, we had ice station Crystal is what my station was called. And so we did it for 10 years. We did it a little bit till 95 after the Cold War or the Soviets collapsed. And no, every now and then we’d encounter a Russian or a Soviet activity, but we were pretty successful in keeping our program close hold.
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Well, what about supplies? What did you eat during that time?
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Well, when we first went in, we packed two containers that weighed about 600 pounds in a survival sled that we could pull, a man sled, in case the ice broke up and we had to get out of there. So we were in pretty good shape. I mean, two guys don’t eat that much. You burn a lot of calories. But then when we… We picked a nice flow. Usually they’re about a mile across. They’re more circular. The stronger flows are more circular because they’ve survived a year and the edges get knocked off. So that’s how you can identify them. And there’s other ways, too. And they couldn’t be so thick where other flows wrapped it on top of each other and made it so thick we couldn’t penetrate. So the ideal flow was about seven feet thick and about a mile across. And then after we got going, they would airdrop fuel to us because that was key to have fuel to keep warm because there’s no firewood up there. And also we could bring in supplies with less fuel on board the aircraft because they would come with the supplies that we needed for our work. and we could fuel them up so they could head back, so they could carry more payload out. So they would airdrop two or three aircraft loads of fuel to us.
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And what kind of a structure were you in?
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We used tents. The first one was a pretty small tent. It was just enough for two guys. It was… For those in the military, I know what a mountain tent is. It’s pretty small. And then we brought in these dome kind of tents. So usually about the first one we used was 8 by 12, and then they were in 12-foot increments. So when we got six or seven more guys, we would put up an 8 by 24. And then we put a little tent up for a little bit of a, both science work that we had to work on, some of the things that we were using. But it was interesting times. From 84 to about 91, you know, GPSs, we knew about them, and we were authorized to have one, but they were too big. And after that first Gulf War, when GPSs were used, they got these small ones, these handheld ones, So we got those, and we could tell then where we were moving because the interesting thing is after we would go back, and it was two or three days before they would come back again and the ice had moved. So sometimes they were looking for us for a couple days before they could find us. But once the GPSs came out, they can track the ice flow because the ice will move about two-tenths of a knot an hour under normal conditions. And if you get a strong blow in there, it can move 30 miles in two or three days sometimes.
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Wow. Boy, this is fascinating. And so really circling back on all this, Trump is really thinking strategically on this whole narrative on Greenland then.
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Absolutely. It’s such a vast piece of real estate out there, and there’s nothing on it other than Thule, Greenland. And there’s also, we’ve heard stories about, that’s where the ice cap, when people use the term ice cap, it’s Greenland. The ice out on the floating ice is not an ice cap. That’s just sea ice. But that ice, some of the guys, two or three of the guys that I would use to help on that ice station, after we were done in May when the ice got kind of rotten, would stay on Greenland and work with ice coring projects they’d hire out because they’re pretty hardy souls, and drilling ice cores on the cap. And it’s amazing how much ice is up there. and how fast that ice and snow accumulates, because I don’t know, Colonel Rutledge probably knows more about this, but they found that what they call the Lost Squadron was an old squadron of aircraft that landed on the ice flow, and it was a couple hundred feet of snow covering it.
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Oh, my gosh.
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And they discovered that. Wow. And when we were up there one time, there was… Just to tell you how wild that place is, the Greenland itself, there was a slope from about 5,000 to 9,000 feet. And I guess an aircraft was flying along, and all of a sudden it started landing because it met the slope in bad weather. And we were up there, and some of our folks were able to rescue that aircraft. But if you can picture an aircraft flying at a certain altitude, and all of a sudden meets the ice because of poor visibility, and the slope of that ice gradually just was perfect landing condition. Oh, my gosh. No one was damn hurt. This was, I’d say, somewhere about 89 or 90, somewhere right in there, that happens.
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Wow. Well, Drew Dix, this is absolutely fascinating, and I appreciate late breaking to come on the show. And again, check out AmericanValueCenter.org. This is going to be a very important event on the 23rd, and all the information is there. Drew Dix, thank you. Thank you for, just thank you.
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I appreciate the work, what you’re doing.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Brad Beck, that was pretty fascinating.
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It was like listening to your grandfather and just wanting to hear more. Stories were amazing of Greenland.
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Yeah, pretty amazing. And Drew Dix is a pretty amazing guy. So I appreciate him jumping in here and letting us know about that. Let’s get over here to your essay that we are broadcasting now and that we will publish this weekend. Happy New You. I love this piece.
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Well, everybody says that, you know, on the 31st, Happy New Year, what are your resolutions? And it reminds me of the story of two beasts that meet each other at a watering hole. It’s an old Aesop story. And, you know, they’re in a fierce battle to have dominance and to drink first from this watering hole. And they take a quick break and look up and there’s vultures circling because one of them is not going to survive. And they finally stop and look at each other and said, you know, It’s better to reconcile now than to be food for those vultures. So let’s take turns and go on. And I think a lot of times our resolutions are like that. We fight with ourselves internally. Oh, I’m going to lose weight. I’m going to not do certain things anymore. I’m going to have better habits. And how successful are we? We’re really not because it takes more than 30 days to have something to become successful. more of a habit, and you have to start inch by inch. You can’t say, I’m going to lose 50 pounds in a month. It takes time. It takes determination. It takes persistence. It takes planning, whether it’s going to the gym. I mean, I belong to a gym up by my house, and all the newbies are there this week. And In about two weeks, it will be back to its normal self. It’s just human nature. It’s hard to be consistent with something. So you have to start off incrementally, but you’ve got to plan first. And I think the biggest thing you need to do is think about the end. What’s the outcome you want? And then work back from that. And the funny thing is, you know, you and I know a lot of people say, I’m going to write a book one day. And I’ve said that many times. And people want you to write a book. Well, I don’t know about that. But, you know, it’s funny because I always ask people, well, how far have you written? How many pages? Well, I haven’t started yet. You know, Juana is not a plan. Juana is something, a vision, and maybe in your mind. But you’ve got to start and have the discipline. So I know I’m not a writer. I’m not an author. But I write an essay for the Kim Monson show. And inch by inch, over time, I’ll have enough to put together, hopefully, to have something. And I think people realize that it takes time, it takes effort. And just dreaming about it is one aspect, but doing it, having the discipline to do it every day. And that’s the hard part.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it is. And so personally, I have been, I need to get up early for the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know, I’m here early too.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, I know. And well, several things. Through COVID, I’ve been able to kind of cheat as far as weight and exercise. There was a time, Brad, that I was about 30 pounds heavier than I am now. And it was after I got out of Up With People, we were guests every three days at somebody’s home. So they just treated you great, brought out all the great food. So that second semester, we traveled south. And Pecan Pie and I had a relationship that I was wearing around. And I ended up, I didn’t do the official Weight Watchers program, but I had family members that were, so I had gotten into the point of really thinking about what to eat, and I was able to take most of that weight off. Through COVID, and then I’ve always been pretty strong, and through COVID, I think I got weak, and I’ve talked about it on the show, I was having real trouble with a hip, and And I had gone to Dr. Stimson, great chiropractor, and he said, Kim, you really need to do squats. I never really had exercised, and I really didn’t want to. But I’ve started to do that every morning. And the muscles are getting stronger and I’m getting better. And so when I decide that, oh, I don’t think I want to do that, I think there is a health reason why to do it. I know that’s kind of a long story, but it’s been a real discipline for me to get to that point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it’s also a mental opportunity for you. I get on the treadmill and do two miles. And either if I watch a podcast and try to educate myself on some subject I’m interested in, but it clears my mind to focus on something for a period of time. And if you do it consistently, I’m at the gym every morning when I’m in town. You know, it just becomes another habit, but you got to do it consistently and you can make all the excuses in the world and you’re going to fall off, you know, the wagon, so to speak. But you got to get back on. And that’s the key is, yeah, OK, you can miss a couple of days, a day here and there. But as long as you continually start again and try to be as consistent and persistent in your goals consistently. You know, the goal doesn’t have to be a huge, hairy, audacious thing. It can be something very, very simple. And so if you can build those and connect those to the outcome you want, you’ll get there. It’s like the old story of a rabbi whose mother used to tell a story on him when he used to climb a tree. And he was the only kid in the neighborhood who could get to the top. And when his mother asked him, how come you’re the only kid that doesn’t fall out? The rabbi said, I don’t look down. I’m always looking up. And so if you look up, you’re more likely to reach your goal rather than to reflect on all the things that didn’t go right and focus on what’s the next step. How can I get better every day? It’s continual improvement, and it’s reaching excellence. It’s not trying to be perfect.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. And Joe and I talk about that all the time, particularly with live radio. There’s lots of things that can’t be perfect. I know. Yes, you do know. I found out. You and Susan, coach of our experience, something we never had. I think it was maybe the first time I’d given up the microphone and the phones. We had all the guests. We had everything. The outline, everything was ready to go. And then the phone lines weren’t working. And we didn’t have a plan B at that time because it never happened before.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you basically had to talk for two hours, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I have told people that story. And it’s like sitting in a closet with the lights out and talking to yourself. And thankfully, as I mentioned earlier, you have to be prepared. Life is going to throw you things. And you can either get excited and go DEFCON 1 or you can say, OK, take a deep breath and People know how prepared you are by how calm and consistent you are over time. And you just go on. You go through it. And, yeah, things are going to happen. You laugh at yourself. You laugh at the imperfections. You try to get better. And I think that’s not taking yourself too seriously. But it was a great experience because I learned that, you know, you’ve got to always be prepared and have something for yourself.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you can do almost anything. When you can do that, you can do almost anything in preparation. I love these words that you had. And I put those in the newsletter where you said that each new year is an opportunity to reinvent, reposition, rethink, repurpose, remind, and revise your goals. And I think also part of that’s always looking up. But I loved the way you put all those words together.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, as you know, in public speaking, alliteration helps people to remember. So when people have the opportunity to use words that all start with the same letter, they’re more likely to have the ear connect with the words that somebody’s saying. And so when you think about reinventing yourself, again, it doesn’t have to be a big thing. I know when I was downsized from a job, that i was at for 23 years i had to reinvent myself i had to dig deep and go okay where do i want to go what do i want to be when i grow up how do i want to do that reposition you know for a long this time i did a lot of marketing in my job now i do sales i don’t do the marketing i’ve always done marketing and sales together but it’s a repositioning of mindset i used to work on one side of my business and then i was given the opportunity to work on both the floral side and the craft side of my industry. And then now I’m back to the floral side. So, you know, you have to reinvent, reposition, rethinking what your importance is and how you can provide value to a customer base. Same thing with politics. What’s the value you bring? And do you understand that your job is to protect people’s individual rights? not to give them things. I’m seeing the things that are happening in California and it’s like, come save us. It’s like, no, you have to be prepared yourself. You have a personal responsibility. And so anytime you can take that opportunity, do it, do it incrementally. By the time something, you know, the usual substance hits the fan, you’ll be prepared. And yeah, it’s not going to go perfect, But at least it’s better than not having been prepared.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. And it’s across everything that you do is to be able to think critically, to look at what consequences might be out there and to prepare for that. We’re going to continue this discussion. Did also want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation, which is a… nonprofit that I dearly love. Paula Sarles is doing amazing work there. And we have the official Marine Memorial here in Colorado. And with all the goofy stuff that had happened with renaming bases and mountains and all the stuff that had come out of this woke O’Biden Harris culture, We realize now it’s more and more important to make sure that we have our memorials. And so what is happening with the remodel is so important. And help them make that a reality. You can do that by checking everything out and making a contribution at the USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And this all happens because of our sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues. Through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And, Brad, during break, and we were alluding to this, is start. Make sure that you start. The journey starts with that first step. And Drew Dix had said in his life, you look back, you can accomplish things if you don’t sit on your hands. And I hadn’t heard that for a while, but I remember that. my grandmother would say, don’t just sit around on your hands.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. I used to have a customer, and she said, you know, when you’re standing around, I can see the moss growing on your feet. Move. We’ll take an inventory. Go stock a shelf. That always stuck with me. You know, you’ve got to have motion really to grow. And, you know, the challenge I would ask to all the listeners out there is what are you going to be – what’s the outcome in five years from now? Because five years isn’t going to happen. and it can go quickly and it can go very quickly we we learned that i mean it’s been five years since the whole as i like to say the wuhan experience the shutdown it’s been five years and so if you look back upon that what did you do how did you grow how did you invest in yourself what relationships did you build what things that you did for yourself that helped others in the long run and so start now i could relate it to our public speaking opportunities with toastmasters and how people who start today working on the goals that they want for oral communication and leadership skill development will be much improved in five years from now. But they’ve got to start. And whether it’s our club or other clubs, invest in yourself because it’s only going to make you better in those five years. Five years is too far of a horizon. Pick three years. What’s the outcome you want in three years? What’s it in one year horizon? And things are going to change. You know, the old story of man plans and God laughs, right? Right. Things are going to change. But how do you adapt? How do you improve? You will have setbacks. Okay, fine. Get back on that horse and move forward. Easy said, it’s hard to do. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
But so many people have said after Colonel Rutledge has been on the show, gosh, I hope I’m like that when I’m at 96. And then we go, but we’re not like that now. So we have work to do. But he has always been very curious. He’s always been really focused on improving himself. And he was a member of a couple of different Toastmasters, I think. And he wanted to make sure that you received a very special gift. Do you remember that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I do. When we had the celebration for Liberty Toastmasters North, and I was the recipient of some Toastmaster cufflinks that I treasure that were Colonel Rutledge’s. So if he’s listening, thank you. And it was just an honor to receive those, and I’ve worn them a couple times. But that’s through hard work. I didn’t start being a public speaker. In fact, I was in business, and I would go on the road for two, three weeks and then come home and be there for two, three weeks, four weeks, getting ready for the next trip or covering my local area. And I would feel rusty being out there on the road. And the first couple of presentations I’d make to customers and clients, I would just, oh, man, that was terrible. So I knew I had to get better at storytelling, better at coming up with solutions, giving value, and public speaking is where it’s at. And learning those skill sets, the biggest thing I learned is listening. Most people come to Toastmasters for public speaking, and that’s awesome. But the listening helps you improve because then you give your customers or anybody in a relationship. Now, my wife’s probably listening saying, yeah, you’ve got to practice what you preach. But it’s important to listen more effectively and actively. And then you’re more likely to get success for both you, your customer, your companies, you know, all the people you’re working with and for. So listening is a great skill set that’s not taught in our schools.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s not taught in our schools. And I just want to re-mention Colonel Rutledge. As you can see, his lifetime of preparation, he is now sharing this wealth of knowledge, but it’s because he was always working to improve. And speaking of our schools, our little school in our neighborhood, I’ve been so concerned. Our kids are not overall, if we look at education in Colorado, they’re not learning how to read, write, write cursive, any of these things. And up on the outside of the building now, it says leadership begins here. And I thought, hmm, I actually would prefer learning, maybe. But that’s one of these things is everybody wants to be a leader. And certainly in Toastmasters, we do say leadership can begin here. But it’s because of these communication skills. But I thought, we don’t quite have our focus right on things right now. Everybody wants to be a leader.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and the interesting thing is knowledge is important. It’s a great thing to have more information. But I think wisdom is even more important. Have the prudence to know when to use that knowledge, how to use it, and why it’s important. You know, just having a bunch of facts and figures, I can throw out all kinds of crazy stuff that nobody cares about. But it’s using things when they’re appropriate and in the audience that you’re dealing with, whether you’re speaking or at work or just in a non-for-profit, you know, speaking when it’s important and giving information, sharing information and hearing what other people have to say. President Trump, I hear, is a fabulous listener. He likes to hear what people have to say. Now, he doesn’t maybe always follow through on certain things, but he gives people the opportunity to be heard. And I think that’s what a lot of the Toastmasters experience for you and I has been fabulous.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and also the evaluation component I think has been, to me, maybe even more important than the speaking, being an evaluator. Maybe that’s where that’s connected is you really have to listen as an evaluator, and then you do have dialogue on that. But that has really been a great tool that I’ve learned in being an evaluator. I think that’s super important.
SPEAKER 05 :
Evaluation is where you get the gold. And whether it’s a review from your boss or higher-ups or it’s a review from your peers and Toastmasters, one of the beautiful things about it is it’s their perspective on what they saw, heard, and felt about your presentation. It’s not expertise. It’s just this is how you performed on that day at that time. And that’s invaluable. Not enough people are honest enough with that. And it’s good, critical feedback so we can grow.
SPEAKER 10 :
And love that. So Liberty Toastmasters Denver meets the first and third Saturdays of each month at Liberty North in Longmont on the second and fourth Saturdays. And love to have guests. And I am recommitted. I’ve not been, because of the election season and all, I’ve not been receiving any attendance awards. And I, for me, selfishly, to become better, I’m rededicating myself to that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I’m glad you weren’t there because I had technical problems on my presentation on last Saturday when I was Toastmaster, and you learned the muscle through it. Maybe I’ll do it again. You get to experience my mess up and learn from it.
SPEAKER 10 :
We’ll learn from it. Our quote for the end of the show, and thanks for being here, Brad, is from James Madison. And I chose this because the Colorado State Legislature just went into session, said it will be a little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice. If the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read or so incoherent. that they cannot be understood. If they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be tomorrow. That’s happening.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hold your wallets. The legislature’s in session. You got it.
SPEAKER 10 :
So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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With what is happening down at the statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it’s not.
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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
SPEAKER 10 :
Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here in Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday. What a first hour.
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amazing stuff all the way around.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, you and I, we’re almost speechless, I think. So interesting. Drew Dix and Brad Beck has stayed for our number two. Great to have you. And again, we’ll be rolling out your essay this weekend.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. And it’s always a pleasure. And I learn so much every time I’m here. So thanks for the opportunity.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, that’s our goal is that, because I’m learning so much as well, and we like to kick the tires on these ideas by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And force can be sneaky. You can feel it, but sometimes you can’t quite put your finger on it. It can be fear, coercion. We’ve seen those that have used all these different things. It can be policy, this government-induced inflation. All of this is kind of sneaky.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think we’re turning the corner, though. I have a feeling of hope that we haven’t had in a while. You know, just the left has for so long renamed things, as you alluded to earlier. I’m looking forward to the Gulf of America.
SPEAKER 10 :
That was something that had never crossed my mind.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, it’s so brilliant. And I think what it does is it pushes people off. It moves the Overton window. People will be talking about that and they’ll be just, you know, incensed. And meanwhile, then he can start planning and doing and he being the incoming president, get his agenda done. Because we need to move forward with saving liberty and protecting individual rights. And if we don’t do it now, boy, it’s going to be a tough road to even try to get some of that freedom back.
SPEAKER 10 :
It really is. And so we hope that all and much of the hard work. I’m going to use the word of the day. And much of the hard work of so many people has come to fruition with this election of Donald Trump. And people, I think, are really digging deep inside themselves as well, realizing we need to step forward on that as well. So our word of the day is fruition spelled F-R-U-I-T-I-O-N. And it is the realization of something desired or worked for, an accomplishment. Or number two, enjoyment derived from use or possession. Or number three, the condition of bearing fruit. And so it’s a great word of the day, and that’s in the spirit of Liberty Toastmasters, Brad.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we need to plant more trees, so in five years we’ll have more fruit. And that’s what we, I think, hopefully will be doing with this new administration, is planting the fruit so our posterity will have that to eat and the fruition will be, you know, we’ll have more abundance.
SPEAKER 10 :
What I do see is that even though at the federal level, Trump is doing what he’s going to do there, I think that those that are really pushing the Marxist agenda, they’ve been focused on local government, school boards, county. And of course, here in Colorado, we have… actual real Marxists that are in the state legislature. So what I see here in Colorado is we have a real challenge to really watch, get involved, change things at the metro districts, the school districts, local, county, and state government, Brad.
SPEAKER 05 :
I agree. And, you know, even though we have certain people in office or coming into office be sworn in, we have to hold them accountable, too. It’s not a free ride. And we have to hold our local officials, our local representatives to account. They’re our neighbors. And so if they do something that we think is wrong, show up at that town hall meeting, show up at the school board meeting, listen, and then afterwards get to know them and say, why did you vote that way? Mm-hmm. Why is that important to you? What can we do that actually preserves more freedom and liberty? And you don’t have to be nasty about it, but you can ask those questions. And when people don’t have those answers, you hold them to account. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
And hopefully start to influence them because we have to realize many of these elected representatives, all they’re hearing is what staff is saying, interested parties. And so we have a responsibility to become engaged as well. Trump is not our savior.
SPEAKER 09 :
No.
SPEAKER 10 :
at all, but he is doing things that look like that they’re moving us towards freedom, loving America, protecting our country. When America is healthy and successful, the world is in a much better spot.
SPEAKER 05 :
When our founders put this experiment together, we’re an exceptional nation in my mind because for the first time in human history, a group of people came together and recognized the universal equal natural rights of all men, not just Americans. So if somebody comes from another country, They have those same human equality, natural rights. They have the ability to pursue their happiness. And happiness, properly defined from what I’ve read from the Greeks and the Latin, is self-mastery. You have a chance to, as we were talking in the first hour, get better at something that you want to exceed at. And mastery and happiness are, to me, the same thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and that goes into, we were talking about the fires in Southern California. You grew up in Southern California, and Holly had said this. She texted, she said, the governor of California is on a mission to destroy four dams. So that would be water storage, if he’s already done. So we referenced that in the first hour. But also said that California had had record rainfall over the last two years, and literally none of it was saved. They need to be put on notice that the government will not come and save them if they have more fires because of their mismanagement. So you talked about preparation, individual preparation, but holding our elected representatives accountable that they are also doing proper preparation for the citizenry, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. And there’s a big old ocean right abutting. A bunch of water. And, you know, it’s funny. I saw a lot of people put on X about why don’t the firefighters use those super scoopers to get more water from the ocean? They were. A lot of people don’t know that. But they only can fly in certain conditions. And the winds, when they’re blowing 100 miles an hour, which they were, some of those mountain peaks in the Santa Monica Mountains, you can’t get aircraft up there. So unfortunately, they had, to use the cliche, a perfect storm of wind, bad conditions on the ground, dryness, two years of incredible rain, growth of the underbrush, and all the mountainsides are green. But underneath, it’s all dry. And that just went up like tinder. And there’s no way you can do anything about it but just get out of the way.
SPEAKER 10 :
When that happens. But there’s all kinds of things individually and from a government standpoint that could have been done or community standpoint maybe we should say. So, yeah, that’s really important. And thank you on that, Holly. Our quote of the day is James Madison, one of our founding fathers, born in San 1751, died in 1836, known as the father of the Constitution. He said, This is what we’ve seen with wokeism in America, but we’re getting that turned around. This all happens because of our sponsors, and Karen Levine is on the line. And I saw her last night. She’s a dear friend, great sponsor of the show. And Karen Levine, when we talk about Karen Levine as an award-winning realtor, you just had something so exciting that happened. Welcome.
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SPEAKER 10 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I thank the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. We are beginning our seventh year of solo broadcasting. In studio with me is my friend Brad Beck, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. We’ll be rolling out his essay this weekend. It is, let’s see, what’s the exact?
SPEAKER 05 :
Happy New You.
SPEAKER 10 :
Happy New You. And love that. So stay tuned for that. And again, it’s because of these great sponsors, such as the Harris family, that all this happens. And I am so pleased to have on the line with me a man who I have great respect for. He is a constitutional expert. He is really been attacked by lawfare. uh since uh 2021 and that is john eastman a constitutional expert and the star of a movie a documentary the eastman dilemma uh warfare justice or warfare uh welcome john eastman thank you for having me back on your show it’s uh and happy new year to you and your audience Well, good to have you. And we talked last Friday and your movie was premiered at Mar-a-Lago last Saturday. And so was that quite the affair?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it was already quite the affair before a surprise visit from the president and the prime minister of Italy. The designate for secretary of state, among others, decided to join us and share in some popcorn and watch the movie with us with about 500 people in the grand ballroom. It was really fun.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, that is so awesome, John Eastman. And I actually saw the movie yesterday. People can watch it. I’ve got it, madisonmediafund.org. And the girls up at the Tapas and Topics in Boulder met yesterday for lunch, and we watched the movie. Very important film, John Eastman.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you. Yeah, no, the reason this group, Hollywood group, Madison Media Fund, wanted to do this movie and tell the story, they created an outfit to help push out conservative stories because Hollywood’s not otherwise doing that. And this was their first one and a very important story. light shining on the lawfare that has gone on in this country for the last four years. And I think it’s a compelling story. Of course, it’s my story. I would. But the folks that watched it, I think, thought it was a compelling story as well. And it’s not just my perspective on it. We’ve got leading law professors from the left, like Alan Dershowitz and Lawrence Lessig, who agree that what’s been happening to me is just an outrage and an abuse of the rule of law. And I think that’s a very important part of the story. Every American needs to watch this, understand what’s going on, get angry about it, and help us stand up against it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and John, you really… are at the forefront of this. Now, I had you on the show before that because you’d been on a national show on a regular basis talking about the Constitution. And I had a question. I was on city council regarding the Constitution and the General Welfare Clause. And so I’d reached out to you and you’d been a guest on the show. And so I knew that you knew the Constitution and really understood it. And so set this up for people that may not know your story. And Brad, if you want to jump in here as well, do you have…
SPEAKER 05 :
I was just going to say, John, good to hear your voice again and hope you and Elizabeth are doing well. And my main question to you is how do people help get your message out there besides the movie? I know you have a fund that is out there, the GoFundMe.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, not GoFundMe. They would have confiscated it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, that’s right. Gifts and Go. Sorry.
SPEAKER 08 :
Giftsandgo.com slash Eastman. People can go there. And that site is important for three reasons. One, they can send money to help us with these ongoing legal fights. And despite Trump’s election victory in November… The state prosecutions in Georgia and Arizona, where I’m indicted, and the California bar prosecution, the longest and most expensive bar trial in history, still going on appeal. Those things are still costing a lot of money in legal fees. So if people can donate at that site to help with that ongoing fight, that would be useful. They can also send prayers, which are heartwarming. My wife and I read them. And they can also use that as a place to keep informed. I post updates there with article links that are particularly good at explaining what’s going on. So all three things people should visit that site for. And with the movie coming out, I think we’re going to start posting updates. Because we’re going to go on the road with this movie, and there’ll be private showings with me, you know, taking questions after the film at a number of places around the country. And I think we’ll use that site to keep people informed of where that’s going to occur as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, and givesingo.com slash Eastman is where people can get to that, correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Yes, that’s right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. So set this up for us. What happened? And it really, really began on January 4th, right? And that would be January 4th, 2021?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, my role began about a month earlier. The president called me to ask me to represent him in the Supreme Court of the United States. Texas then filed a original action in the Supreme Court against four of the swing states, and I filed a brief two days later on behalf of the president intervening in that case. The Trump electors then met because of the necessity of having those contingent votes. It showed any of the litigation or legislative actions have broken Trump’s way and a determination that he had actually won the election when only legal votes were counted. So that all occurred in December. And then you roll into January and the president calls me to come meet with him and Vice President Pence. but talk about what i believed and still believe would be the president vice president’s authority as president of the senate to resolve disputes uh… when there are competing slate of electors my advice in that meeting has been greatly distorted courtesy of liz cheney in the j six committee msnbc picked up on the distortion and made some defamatory remarks against me the other day i did not recommend that he simply reject Biden electors and choose Trump electors. My recommendation was that he accede to requests from hundreds of state legislators who were advising him that their elections had been conducted illegally, and they needed time now that they were coming into session to assess the impact of that illegality. And if, in fact, Biden had won, even despite the illegality, they would let him know that, and Biden would be certified. But if, in fact, Trump had won, then the consent of the governed, the cornerstone of our system of government, in order to be given effect, would have to be that Trump got certified. That’s what was asked of the vice president, and he refused to even delay things to let those investigations and assessment occur.
SPEAKER 10 :
but your opinion is he could have delayed because so we are at january 4th january 6th and each state has is basically in charge of their elections and so the state legislatures had not convened and many even republican governors had refused to call special sessions so that the legislatures could take a look at what had happened regarding changes in laws and things regarding the election and so you had said you felt from the constitutional standpoint yes Mike Pence you could just delay this for a few days until these legislators could get into session correct
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s right. That’s exactly what the advice was. And, you know, and you’re right. I mean, the state legislators, leaders had all asked their governors to call them into special session. And the governors refused. Even Republican Governor of Georgia, Brian Kemp, had refused to call them into special session where this could have been dealt with on a more timely basis. throughout the month of December instead of getting up to the threshold in January. But the language of the Constitution is very clear here. The role of the Congress, the House and the Senate, is to merely be present. The language says the president of the Senate, that’s the vice president, shall in the presence of the House and the Senate open all the certificates and they shall be counted. The role of the Senate and the House is to be present, to make sure that what’s done is done in the public eye. But the opening, and necessarily then the judgment about which of competing slates of electors should be opened and counted, that’s vested in the Vice President of the United States. And why is that so important? Well, the Founders spent the entire summer of 1787 in Philadelphia crafting a system of government based on separation of powers and checks and balances. And if you give Congress a role in deciding who the president is going to be, who the head of the other branch of government is going to be, that destroys separation of powers. It makes the president subservient to Congress. They deliberately denied any power over the choice of president to Congress. And yet Congress now, through the Electoral Count Act, has essentially asserted that it has power to decide the presidential election if there’s a dispute. That is a power deliberately denied to them by our founders and by those who ratified our Constitution.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. And so you are then in this meeting January 6th. And what happened exactly there?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, January 4th is the meeting. January 4th.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s right. OK. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
January 4th. The president, Vice President Pence turned to me, said, do you think I have power just to reject the Biden electors? I said, it’s an open question. It’s never been resolved. But I think it’s a weaker argument, particularly in these circumstances, given that only the Biden electors have had any certification of them. The state legislators have not acted to certify the alternate Trump electors. I said, but and therefore, even if you had that power, it would be foolish to exercise it in these circumstances. But that’s why I then said, but you do, I believe, have the power and should accept these requests from the state legislators to give them a little bit more time to assess the impact of the obvious illegality that occurred in their states. I mean, you had secretaries of state just unilaterally eliminating or weakening signature verification. You had the secretary of state in Wisconsin prohibit the bipartisan teams that the law required from going into nursing homes. And nursing home turnout rates went from 25 percent to nearly 100 percent, including in memory care wings. And many of those ballots were signed and filled in in the same handwriting. So those kind of actions opened the door for fraud, and we know that fraud occurred as a result. That’s just scratching the surface of all the evidence I had and that I’ve put into the public arena now through my California bar trial, and some of which couldn’t do the whole lot of all the evidence, but some of which is featured pretty prominently in the documentary film.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. Okay, we’re going to continue this discussion with John Eastman. Brad Beck is in studio. And all of this is so important that we understand this. And it happens because of sponsors. And for a great protein source in your diet, something that tastes very good is that Steakhouse Experience at Home from Lavaca Meat Company.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And the USMC Memorial Foundation is raising the money for the official Marine Memorial remodel. And that memorial is right here in Golden, Colorado. And get more information. Make it something that you’re committed to do to help them this year. And that website is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. We have John Eastman on the line. He is the feature in a MadisonMediaFun.org movie, and it is The Eastman Dilemma, Lawfare or Justice. And Brad, we’re here in Colorado. Brad Beck is in studio with me. co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. And you’re supportive of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. It’s an all-volunteer group. I’m the president. And I’ve been getting kind of my sea legs on this as far as watching all the legislation that is proposed. And last year, I saw something. And as John is talking about it, I always say that the radical activists are always playing long ball. And this was House Bill 24-1150. And it was… regarding a false slate of presidential electors and penalties. And it says a person, this is their summary, a person who knowingly enters into an agreement, including a written agreement, oral agreement, or agreement using electronic communications with one or more individuals to commit offering of a false instrument for recording or forgery, commits conspiring to commit offering a false instrument for recording or forgery. It goes on to some other things. I’m wondering if this is long ball on trying to prevent the two sets of electors that was set of the 2020 election. John, I know I’m kind of just throwing this at you, but I need to read more on this. But I’m wondering, again, I think they’re making it illegal here in Colorado to set the two sets of electors. And that’s a problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it is. And, you know, the states of Michigan and Wisconsin and Nevada and Georgia and Arizona have all used their existing forgery statutes or impersonation of a public official statutes to bring indictments against the electors from the 2020 election, even though those electors did exactly what John Kennedy’s electors did in Hawaii in 1960. Recall that Richard Nixon won the election in Hawaii in 1960, and his electors were properly certified by the governor. But there was an election challenge pending when those electors had to meet and cast their votes. And so on the chance that the election challenge would yield a victory for Kennedy instead of Nixon, the Kennedy electors met and voted as well. And their certificate said, we, the duly elected electors from the state of Hawaii, cast our votes for John Kennedy. Same exact language that the Nixon electors used, casting their votes for Richard Nixon. Everybody knew that they were contingent on the outcome of the pending litigation. Same thing occurred in 2020. There was pending litigation in each of the swing states that could have affected the outcome of the election. So the electors used the official language that they were supposed to do, cast what everybody knew were contingent votes, depending on the outcome of those litigations or legislative actions. to determine the actual winner of the election the use of those forgery statutes or impersonation statutes to go after those electors is therefore unprecedented contrary to the historical example from hawaii And to criminalize that is an outrage. What will happen is what happened in Pennsylvania and New Mexico. The electors there put into their certificate contingent language. And so everybody will do that. But there’s a big question if, in fact, say Trump had won in Pennsylvania after the litigation, and those certificates get presented with contingent language, not meeting the statutory requirement, those certificates might have been rejected. So it’s almost a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. To criminalize that when everybody knows that those things were being issued contingency is an overt criminalization of political process and political opponents. That is the very definition of lawfare. And it sounds like Colorado is doubling down on wanting to support lawfare instead of getting past it and getting back to our normal adversarial system of justice, which our country has quite rightly prided itself on for centuries.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so the homework for all you listeners out there is House Bill 24-1150. It’s four pages long, and I think that we need to tear into this and take a look at that. Now, one other thing, because you mentioned these fake electors in these states that looks like Colorado, is trying to prevent the two sets of electors, the Democrat and the Republican electors. And you said, again, this was contingent from what I gathered from the film, it was important that both sets of electors did what they were supposed to do on the day that they were supposed to do that. If they were prevented from that, then that would prevent any use of those electors if there was a contingency. I know I’m not maybe getting it quite right, but am I close?
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re very close, and it’s not just me in the film talking about this. It’s Larry Lessig. Larry Lessig is a very prominent, strongly left of center. professor at Harvard. He used to teach at the University of Chicago. He was actually my professor in my first year of law school and his first year of teaching. And he ran for president of the United States at one point. I mean, this is a very prominent guy who is, you know, on the lead of saying absolutely the electors have to meet. Alan Dershowitz in the film. Alan Dershowitz was on Al Gore’s team in 2000 when you had the contested election down in Florida. And he points out in the film that the Gore camp had already decided that they were going to push forward with alternate electors as well in order to preserve democracy. The contingency is the election challenges have gone their way. There’s nothing uncored about this. It’s actually required, and I’ll tell you why it’s required. The one power that Congress has under the Constitution in dealing with the election of president is to set the date. for the electors to meet and vote. That’s in the Constitution. And the date the Constitution requires shall be the same throughout the United States. You didn’t want any rolling dates where people could shift their position depending on what happened in other states earlier in the month. The date has to be the same throughout the United States. In 1856, there was a blizzard in Wisconsin, and the electors were not able to meet on the designated day. They met the next day, cast their votes, sent them to Washington, D.C. The acting president of the Senate decided to count them. which is very important uh… on my perspective on the role of the vice president to make these decisions he decided to count them and then adjourned the joint session of congress and declared uh… james buchanan as president uh… the the house in the senate separately in their own chambers for the next three days debated whether that was proper or not a one of those wisconsin electors could be counted the thing didn’t matter for the outcome of that election and they act at the ultimately tabled the discussion and kick the can down the road, where it remains to this day an open question whether electoral votes not cast on the designated day could be counted even if they are subsequently determined to be the right electoral votes. That’s why people must meet on that designated day if there is any outstanding issue that might flip the results of the election. And the notion that that’s somehow criminal conduct is absurd. And I think one of the most important parts of the documentary is not just me saying that, but Alan Dershowitz and Larry Lessig saying that. It shows that people from across the political spectrum have come to the same conclusion about the necessity of these electors meeting and casting their votes based on any contingencies that still remain with the results of the election.
SPEAKER 05 :
Brad Beck, this is fascinating. It is. And, John, my question to you would be, you mentioned the separation of powers earlier and the ability for us to have an emergency stop, if you will, so people understand how the Electoral College works and how the Constitution works. What can the average person who is ignorant about so many of these things, unfortunately, do? What can they do to understand these betters and have discussions with their friends and neighbors so more people get in front of this rather than the media getting in front of it and misinform us?
SPEAKER 08 :
So there are two things that are relatively easy to do. They’re available online. A short version, kind of an encyclopedia version of every clause of the Constitution can be found in the Heritage Guide to the Constitution, which is available online. A little bit more in depth that shows not just the text clause by clause, but the debates in the federal convention, the debates in the ratifying convention, early debates in Congress explaining the meaning of every clause. And that can be found online at the Founders Constitution, which is a website sponsored by the University of Chicago. And every clause of the Constitution is explained there. Volume 1 of this five-volume set actually explains the political theory underlying the Constitution. philosopher Montesquieu, for example, about the importance of separation of powers. That’s all outlined in essays in volume one. But then beginning volume two, they go clause by clause, and they reprint the debates in the federal convention over that clause. They reprint the debates in the ratifying conventions about that clause. And so you get a real fulsome sense of what the founders meant and the importance of sticking with that original meaning if we’re going to have a constitution at all.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I would probably add to that, read the Federalist Papers, because there’s a lot of information in those documents.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and And the Founders’ Constitution is a great source because for every clause, it will point you to the Federalist paper and the Anti-Federalist paper that debates those clauses at the very time the ratification is going on. Excellent.
SPEAKER 10 :
fascinating okay john eastman um first of all people can watch the movie and it is madison mediafund.org and then also help with all this at givesingo.com forward slash eastman and on the text line this came through it says i’ve been praying for john eastman every day and also for those who have been affected by this lawfare blessings to him and his family And, John, you and Elizabeth and your family are in my daily prayers as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you very much for that. And the prayers are heartwarming. As I said earlier, my wife and I read them. And, you know, we’ve been on quite a roller coaster ride. And at the low moments, those prayers are particularly heartwarming for us. So thank you all for those prayers. They help immensely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Brad? John, just keep up the good fight, and we’re backing you. And I’d love to see you back here in Colorado at some point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think we’re going to arrange a private showing of the film at some point up in the Denver area. I will keep people apprised of when that gets organized because it will be fun not just to see the film but then have a discussion about it with me afterwards.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. And people can watch it now at MadisonMediaFund.org and then help the Eastmans by GiveSinGo.com forward slash Eastman. John Eastman, thank you so much. And you truly are a happy warrior on all of this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, as I’ve told a lot of people, I’m looking forward to a future unburdened by what has been in the region past.
SPEAKER 10 :
Where have I heard that before, John Eastman? Thank you for standing for our country and thinking about the next generation. I know that you are doing this. We’re doing this here as well because we feel this duty to pass on this great American idea to the next generation. So thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you very much. And again, Happy New Year to both of you and to your entire audience.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks, John. Yeah, thank you. And boy, these are important discussions. And they come to you because of John Boson. If you’ve been injured, reach out to John Boson at Boson Law.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the Center for American Values, I just dearly love the place. It’s a very special place. Have you made it down there yet?
SPEAKER 05 :
I haven’t. And The date on the 23rd sounds intriguing. I’m going to try to put that on my calendar and get down there. Because, you know, just hearing the stories from the folks that experience this stuff, I had the experience of hearing the stories. commander of the USS Cole one time, the one that was attacked in Yemen. And just to hear him speak about his crew and their preparation and their drilling and how they responded by second nature to overcome the adversity of that explosion and that terrorist act is just fascinating. So, yeah, to answer your question, I’d love to get down there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it would be a good day to do that. It’s Thursday, January 23rd. Begins at four o’clock. It’s an on values presentation regarding, it says on January 23rd, 1968, the USS Pueblo was down. This is moving back and forth between the two things. So hold on here just a second. Was captured by North Korea and its crew endured nearly a year of hardship torture. and brutality and then the speaker for this event is Robert Chica and he was a crewman there and so this is going to be super special Drew Dix said please let them know give them a call at the center and just so that they they know that you’re coming and that you can get all the information by going to americanvaluecenter.org that’s americanvaluecenter.org Susan Kochevar has texted me, and it looks like for sure we could go to work when she’s opening the 88 Drive-In Theater, that we could do an event and show the movie on maybe on Saturday, April 19th, which is right around the corner. And Joe and I think Producer Joe and Susan are trying to figure out a way to do a Q&A with John Eastman as well. So we’ll go to work on that, Brad.
SPEAKER 05 :
If you have a chance to listen to John Eastman talk about the Constitution, You should take the opportunity. He used to come up, and both he and Elizabeth, his wife, are great educators. And they would come up and often speak on various topics, but in particular the Constitution. And John knows it. He’s taught it. And it’s unconscionable what has happened to him and how— The community up there in CU Boulder treated them.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it really is amazing. And yes, so this came in from a listener regarding we’re talking about changing gears a little bit. California, you grew up in Southern California. You have family out there.
SPEAKER 05 :
I do. And they’re all safe. They’re all good. But it’s smoky. Some of the places I used to hang out when I was younger are gone, right on the beach, the Rio Inn and Moonshadows, great restaurants, great bars that you would look at at the ocean, and the whole Pacific Palisades, Will Rogers State Historic Park was destroyed. It’s just wrenching to see what’s happened. I mean, you saw what happened in North Carolina, and The response there and Lahaina. And, you know, first of all, we’ve got to be prepared as citizens for any eventuality, earthquake, fire, flood, to take care of ourselves. And then our non-for-profits, our churches, our synagogues are the second line, our community, our neighbors. But the last resort should be the government. I don’t want the federal government coming in because it comes with strings, and it’s just going to make things harder. You’ll see people switch their party affiliation once they start rebuilding. The red tape they’re going to have to go after because some bureaucrat’s going to say, no, you can’t build back the way it was. You have to come up to new standards, and it’s going to be expensive, and it’s going to take longer, and people are going to say, what is this all about? We’ve experienced that here in Boulder County.
SPEAKER 10 :
because when people wanted to rebuild, there were all these new rules and regulations. And I was talking with Karen last night, and she said something about some new potential regulation on outlets, which could increase the cost of homes. She says, when we talk about affordability, let’s quit putting things in place that make things more expensive. So this listener, and again, love to hear from you, 720-605-0647. It says, people need to get out of this mindset that government is the solution. Government creates the problems. Why would you call on someone who has caused the problems? It says, these fires, they… went on to, well, basically connecting dots from some of these things, such as North Carolina, Lahaina, all of this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Some people think it’s a property grab. I know. I don’t know what the truth is, but at some point it’s going to come out. I’m going to challenge everybody who’s listening. to think about when the government shows up and gives you money it’s somebody else’s money it’s not the government’s because the government doesn’t produce anything they just take and there are legitimate reasons for taxes the defense of the country our adjudication in the courts our protection locally for the police But all these other programs are our responsibility, all these other issues that come up that are part of life. When did we ever start thinking that the government was going to come to the rescue, to be the lone ranger, to protect us? That’s not their job. Their job is to protect our individual rights so we can make choices to pursue our happiness. It is not to give us something. It is not to protect. find a way to make our lives better. They need to get out of the way so we can make those choices for ourselves.
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So what would you say to people in Southern California about being prepared and how we should be interacting with the government? I guess the first thing is the idea regarding water storage and mismanagement of forests and then going out and actually destroying dams that have water storage. This is all so, I don’t know if it’s incompetent or not, but it’s so wrong.
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Well, they’re misdirected. They’re looking at creating solutions to problems that don’t exist. I’ll give you an example. I just read a great article in Epoch Times over the weekend about wild horses. And, you know, they round them up, the federal government Owns way too much land out west, especially, and they round up and destroy wild horses and it costs ridiculous amounts of money. There’s a gentleman there who says, why don’t we use those for wild horses for brush fire mitigation, just like they do with goats and other animals because they don’t eat. all the wild grasses at the root, so they’re more likely to clean up fields and pastures and where cattle can do something else and goats and lambs. So they could coexist? They could go and coexist and, well, bring some of these wild horses into areas that they can, not necessarily the mountains, but there are areas where they can bring them in through canyons and clean up the brush. I mean, there’s this symbiotic relationship that we think government has all the solutions. They don’t. There’s some common sense… solutions out there water storage is huge and we need to push back on the environmentalists and say you know what human beings are the priority yeah we want to coexist with wildlife and nature and our environment we want clean water and air and all the things that bring people to colorado by the same token if you don’t have the infrastructure you don’t have the water you don’t have the uh pressure for the fire hydrants you know you’re going to get what you get there in in uh especially Pacific Palisades, but last night a fire started in the Sunset Hills, the Hollywood Hills. You know, the sparks and flames will fly miles. And there’s even some suspicion of how the outlying fire started. So it’s a sad situation. We need to get this cleaned up, fixed, and then have the serious discussion about, okay, how do we go forward? How do we plan for the future? And it’s not DEI hires. Not at all. There’s too much of that. And we’ve got to be practical. We need to push back and say, let’s think about this in terms of human flourishing as opposed to some objective that a special interest group has. Yeah.
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Well said, Brad Beck, and thank you so much, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. Check out Toastmasters, the national site, and just put in Liberty Toastmasters. You can get all the information. Our friend Yvonne Paez had said regarding water conservation, they’re always saying conserve, conserve, but you can’t conserve unless you have storage, unless you actually have water storage. So good point. Our quote for the end of the show is from James Madison, who said this. It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice. If the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read or so incoherent that they cannot be understood, if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be tomorrow. Colorado State Legislature is in session. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you’re not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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