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In this episode of Drive Radio, our seasoned experts tackle a wide range of automotive topics, starting with an engaging discussion about the ignition timings of vintage Chevy models. Learn the intricate truth behind trick questions on classic engines and debunk common myths in automotive history. We delve into the credibility of turbocharged engines in high-altitude environments, where the hosts shine light on the advantages and challenges these powerhouses face. The panel also engages in a thorough debate comparing the Honda Accord and the Toyota Camry Hybrid, analyzing performance, economy, and the nuances of ownership. Tune in as experienced
SPEAKER 32 :
Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four barrel carburetor?
SPEAKER 27 :
It is a trick question. Watch this. The Chevy didn’t make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn’t come out till 62. And it wasn’t offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
SPEAKER 14 :
Get ready for another hour of Drive Radio, brought to you by Colorado Select Auto Care Centers. Got a question for the experts? Then give them a call, 303-477-5600. Now it’s time to pop the hood and get our hands dirty. Drive Radio on KLZ 560, the source.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Again, Josh Goff. With us today, Legacy Automotive and Ridgeline Auto Brokers in Boulder, Longmont, and Fort Collins. Justin with us as well, same place. And Dietze from ProTech Auto Shield up in Wheat Ridge along with Roy, the owner there as well. And Nick, we started talking to you at the end of the last segment. I wanted to take you really quick. first segment and just kind of continue on with your Honda Accord questions. And personally, and I know Josh said this earlier, you’re looking late model, you know, 23, 24, even a new 25. Would it bother me to buy a Honda Accord? No. Very stable, great car. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 25 :
Yeah. What is your opinion on a 1.5 liter engine? To me, I know that it’s a little bit underpowered, in my opinion, and plus I know that they’ve done something to really tweak it so that it gives you more performance. But again, I’m old school thinking it’s a smaller engine and maybe you’re really stressing it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it’s a good motor. You know, they’re turbocharged and we’re not seeing as many turbocharger issues with them as with other manufacturers, I would say, in that size. So, you know, it gives you a lot of power plus economy, you know, for a car like this. like that. So I haven’t seen a lot of failures or major failures. We’ve done a few turbos, but they were all higher mileage when we’re putting the turbos on. So about the same time the transmission is going to have issues, the turbocharger is going to have issues.
SPEAKER 11 :
The other thing about turbos, Nick, at our elevation is because we lack air anyways, anything that’s supercharged or turbo at our elevation, you see a huge difference versus a naturally aspirated engine. And again, to Josh’s point, Honda does a very good job on that. Partly, keep in mind, they have a huge racing division, Honda does, when it comes to all of the Formula One stuff and so on, Indy and so on. At any rate, I mean Indy, not Formula One. Point being, with their history in that end of things, I think they’re probably one up on a lot of other manufacturers when it comes to some of that, to the point that Josh said they just don’t have that many issues, and that would be my guess as to why.
SPEAKER 25 :
I currently have had the PSP cars that I’ve had that have opened Camrys with very good results.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good car, too. Very good car. Just really quick, a car that I would not hesitate to buy is the Camry Hybrid.
SPEAKER 26 :
Well, that’s what I was just going to say, too, is if you’re concerned about power, go towards hybrid and you won’t be lacking any power.
SPEAKER 11 :
None. Good idea. That Camry Hybrid, nothing against Honda and the Accord because it’s a good car as well, and those of you that own them, not bad-mouthing you, but for a four-door sedan, dollar for dollar, pretty hard to beat a Camry Hybrid.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and Toyota Hybrids are the best.
SPEAKER 11 :
They are, bar none.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nobody’s at their level. Bar none.
SPEAKER 11 :
They pioneered it. Yep, they are the best. And, Nick, probably knowing those two cars compete head-to-head, they’re going to be roughly the same price. Yeah, I think they’re right next to each other. They have to be. Okay, good to know. Thank you so much. You’re very welcome, Nick. Appreciate your phone call. Lucy, how are you today, Lucy?
SPEAKER 05 :
Doing well. John, I wanted to give a shout-out to Ridgeline Auto on Arapahoe Road in Boulder.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s who’s with us today.
SPEAKER 05 :
They replaced my transmission at a fair price, I might add, and my Lexus is running like new.
SPEAKER 11 :
Awesome.
SPEAKER 05 :
And to my surprise, the first time I popped the hood to check my fluids, I noticed that they had cleaned the corrosion on my cable batteries, my battery cables, rather, and they replaced my battery. And I didn’t even tell them to do that, nor did they mention that they would do that. So I was just pretty impressed that they obviously inspected the car to see if anything was required and make sure I left with a safe and reliable vehicle.
SPEAKER 26 :
We appreciate you, Lucy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep, you’re great, Lucy. Not only do I appreciate you, I appreciate them taking good care of you, but they do that for everybody. But you especially, Lucy, you’re just a great customer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, and I wish I would have found this shop years ago. They’re really professional to work with.
SPEAKER 11 :
Lucy, thank you for that, by the way. They’re over here nodding in agreement.
SPEAKER 26 :
We appreciate it. You’re welcome.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. Have a great rest of your day, Lucy. I appreciate that. And, hey, folks, not to, you know, continue that on for a very long time, but when you’ve got somebody like Lucy, who I’ve talked to many times on air. who’s, by the way, a really sharp individual in the first place, has really good cars as well, and says what she just said about one of our great partners, Ridgeline and Legacy, up in Boulder and Fort Collins, and now Longmont. That says a lot. So thank you guys for that. I appreciate that very much. Albert in Denver, you’re next.
SPEAKER 17 :
How are you doing, John? Good, Albert. Good. Enjoy your show, as always. I got a question for you. I’ve got a 2014 Ford F-150, and it’s got about 65,000 miles, and I know I should get my transmission flushed and that. When we talk about a flush, would just dropping the pan and putting a new filter and filling it up, would that be enough?
SPEAKER 11 :
No. No? No. Now, and the way I’ve always explained that, Albert, and most transmission shops won’t explain it this way, but I will. So we all have done dishes, men, women, wherever, doesn’t matter. And the way I refer that, Albert, is it’s like, okay, you’ve got the dirty dish side, and you’re just about done with all the dishes, and the water’s just filthy, and everything is ready to be changed out. And if you’re doing a big dinner where you may have to change this out two or three times – When we change the water out to do the next set of dishes, we empty the entire basin, that side of the sink out, and we put new water in, correct? Yeah. Dropping the pan is like emptying half of the water. No, it’s like taking a quarter of the water out of that side and then putting the plug back in and then putting new water back to the top. Is the water clean at that point, Albert?
SPEAKER 17 :
No. john you sound like my wife telling me how to do the dishes well and the transmission isn’t any different
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. I mean, we’re laughing, Albert, but seriously, I mean, think about it that way. Literally, when you drop the pan, you’re getting about a quarter of the fluid out of the pan, even back in the old days before the flush machines or the fluid transfer machines had been invented. Some of us used to even drill a hole in the torque converter. You put a plug back in. You try to get as much fluid out of the converter as you could. And even then, Albert, you might have been getting a third of the fluid out. all out of the transmission. Anybody that’s ever overhauled an automatic transmission knows exactly what I mean, because when you actually take everything apart and then find all the fluid, it’s literally everywhere, and the only way to get all of that out is to do the fluid transfer like we talk about.
SPEAKER 17 :
Do the flush.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
I got you. No, I was just wondering, because I just hear people arguing, you know, dropping the pan’s enough, but, you know… And this is, you know, great question and comment.
SPEAKER 11 :
And let me stop for just one moment, because any industry… mine included there is just a lot of we always did it this way so that must be the right way to do it and they forget that technology changes things get better as we move along in the case of transmissions even fluid is even much better but on the same token if that fluid is much better I don’t want to put just a percentage of clean back in. I want all new synthetic fluid back in. And so there’s a lot of folks out there that, frankly, Albert, are old school mentality, not saying they’re bad people. They just have old school thinking and they don’t understand how the new way of things work.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I agree with you. I got another question, too, about that. You know, the lines that go to your transmission cooler, you know,
SPEAKER 11 :
somebody i can’t remember i heard of it they said they are susceptible to breaking so that the whole line should be changed out too what are your thoughts certain vehicles had had issues with their cooler lines although i will tell you there’s not a lot of vehicles out there where that’s a big issue they also can be susceptible to corrosion salt things along those lines and most shops know what those vehicles are and they’ll look at those things and This is also why you need to do transmission services on a routine basis because those things will get looked at at the same time. So for all of you listening, the way those transmission services are done in our shops, technician is looking at everything, including what’s the cooler look like? Is everything clean up in that direction? That’s actually where they’re actually typically hooking the machine in is the cooler lines anyway. So they’re checking all of that at that time, Albert. So they’re not only looking at do we have leak? in the transmission does it look like there’s been any problems there if it’s really bad and we’re thinking hey we ought to get inside the transmission just take a peek before we even do a complete flush a good shop will tell you that on the front side but with what you’re talking about at 65k no they’ll just go through look at everything check the cooler lines and so on and off you go
SPEAKER 07 :
And we do a BG transmission service too, which has a pre-cleaner that we put in before we flush the fluid out. So it runs through the transmission just breaking up varnishes and any little bits. The crud, exactly. And loosens that up. And then we flush it after that, which will remove all that crud that broke up. And then we put an ATC, which is like a conditioner, in with the fluid too at the end.
SPEAKER 26 :
And if you do that service and it’s under 75,000 miles, BG will guarantee your transmission up to a certain dollar amount too if it fails.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. That sounds good. Hey, I got another about it because I got a Ford. They had to recall on their transmissions from 2014 to I can’t remember what it was, 2022 or something like that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think it only went to 19 on the Fords. But, again, don’t quote me. There’s too many of those running around right now for me to remember them all. But, yes, you’re correct.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, anyway, I called that. You know, I went down to the Ford dealership because I thought that’s where you had to go. And I talked to him down there. He goes, no, we’re going to come to your house. And I asked him, I said, so you’re not going to get into my transmission? No, it’s a reflash.
SPEAKER 11 :
And they are going. I’m glad you said that, Albert, because, yes, the fix for that for a lot of the recalls on the Ford specifically is they’re coming to your house and doing a reflash of the computer there.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, yeah, because that’s what the guy did. And I was kind of shocked because I asked him, I said, are you guys going to get into my transmission? He goes, no. I said, okay. The software update. Yeah. Who’s the one of your sponsors that’s down here off Bowles and Lowell?
SPEAKER 11 :
That’d be Gino’s. Gino’s Auto Service.
SPEAKER 17 :
Does he do the transmission flushing there? Sure, absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
He’ll do everything we just said.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, I’ll go by. He’s not too far from me.
SPEAKER 11 :
Talk to John, his advisor, or Steve, either one.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, Albert. Thank you so much for your call. I appreciate it. All right, Buck, Tom, you guys hang tight. We’ll come right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Okay, before we get moving along here, Roy, a question came in for you on the text line. A new Ford Super Duty must have sat at the dealership for a while because it has a few areas where tree sap and bird poop has sat on it, on the paint. And they got most of it off, but in the right light, you can still see it. Can that be fixed?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you can be, I mean, you can sand and polish, but you got to be careful because you don’t want to break through the clear coat. Right. And then you have to repaint the panel. So it can be fixed.
SPEAKER 11 :
If the right person is doing it. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So this is a text coming in. So, yeah, I would say call Roy. Mm-hmm. on monday and just walk through this and see exactly what his thoughts are on that next thing and you could call him on this as well but has the big sunroof one of his fears and he says unrealistic fears is it’s shattering one day which probably wouldn’t happen but yeah they can in certain circumstances do they make any kind of ppf or anything along those lines that would protect that and keep that from shattering yeah i mean just regular ppf okay so ppf the sunroof yeah
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Just regular PPF is the best way to protect the paint. Better than ceramic coating.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
But, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. So there’s your answer. And this is a call or a text down in Flagstaff right now listening. So, Josh, I hope you heard that. Call Roy Monday, and he can help you with all that. Roy, give your phone number out.
SPEAKER 30 :
Or Dietze, one of the two of you. It’s 303-423-2841.
SPEAKER 11 :
Perfect. All right. Let’s go to Buck up in Cheyenne. Buck, you’re next. Go ahead. Good morning. Good morning, Buck.
SPEAKER 19 :
It’s not too windy up here. Good. You had somebody call looking for a shop manual original for a 94 F-250. I don’t know whether Helm has got the original shop manuals. I have one because I got a 95. But you can get… I got a 2016… uh uh taurus and i was able to get a cd from helm that would be yeah he doesn’t he wants an actual printed manual he texted it was a text message that came in uh but if you’re somewhat computer literate, if you get a CD, you can print the darn thing. You can, if you want to, yeah, a thousand pages or so, whatever it is, because they’re monstrous. You can, uh, that would be, that would be the best shot. I would, I would do a CD, see if he can’t find a CD. In fact, I did pick up a CD off of eBay for it. And I use it more than I do the original manuals. Now, um, The other question I have for you is I have a car that you didn’t recommend, and I’m going to take it to Fort Collins here one of these days. I’m kind of getting lined out to do that. But our local quick lube used to break the transmission cooler lines and have a machine that would pump it in and pump it out. Now they have gone to some kind of machine that goes down the dipstick hole, and that’s how they change their transmission loop. And I can’t see that that’s even as good as dropping the pan.
SPEAKER 11 :
It isn’t. I wouldn’t do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
They did it because a lot of the modern cars now have thermostats in the transmissions, and they won’t let the fluid flow to the transmission cooler until it’s warm enough. Well, the problem is when you have the machine on it and you hook up the old way, it’s too hard to keep the fluid warm enough to keep the thermostat open. So that’s why they do this pan service where they just suck it out of the pan and fill it back up pretty much.
SPEAKER 19 :
But I can’t see— Doing the dipstick thing really makes absolutely no sense at all to me.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, because you’re not flashing all the lines.
SPEAKER 19 :
Because all you’re doing is sucking what’s out of the pan. Yep, exactly.
SPEAKER 26 :
There’s dealers that are actually coming to your house and doing your oil change like that now, too, so you need to watch those.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, well, I’m not a big fan of the quick loops anyway, other than I was okay with when they used to do that. But that’s all. Have a good day. All right. Have a nice day and carry on.
SPEAKER 11 :
Buck, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Let’s see. Tom, I think, is next. Tom, go ahead. Go ahead. You’re up next.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, hi there. Question, and maybe this is over the top, but I’m getting ready to have the dealer change out or flush my radiator system. Is there any benefit in using distilled water when they put fresh fluid in?
SPEAKER 11 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, probably not.
SPEAKER 11 :
Some chemists will tell me that I’m wrong. I’m sure somebody out there listening is much sharper on all of this than I am. But if you keep things changed as you should and you keep tabs on what’s going on with the cooling system, Tom, I can tell you maybe on one hand, in all of the years I’ve been in the automotive field since the late 70s, how many times I used distilled water.
SPEAKER 07 :
But the truth is now everybody uses a pre-mix, which they do use. It’s already done. Yeah, and most of them are using deionized water, which you have to have for the hybrid cooling systems. And if they’re using a good coolant, it already has distilled water and deionized water in it. So I doubt that they’re actually mixing it themselves. Okay, and this is an Alexis dealer, so I’m hoping they’re putting the pre-mix in it that’s done exactly to their spec.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Well, that’s good to know. I appreciate your information.
SPEAKER 11 :
You’re very welcome, Tom. Great question, by the way. Let’s see. We can squeeze this one in. Cody, go ahead. Hey, thanks for taking my call.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re welcome. I’ll kind of give you the situation I’m in that’s leading up to my question. Okay. excuse me, I was just coming back from Rock Springs yesterday and it just wasn’t running right. Transmission was kind of shifting weird and seemed like it was kind of dragging. So I need to get set up with a local transmission shop to have it checked out first thing next week and see what I’m looking at. But I’ve heard that sometimes there can be some pretty serious transmission issues with those. So kind of looking at Just, I don’t know, maybe overthinking it and overworrying if it comes down to the possibility of needing to replace a transmission or have serious transmission work done on it. I’m possibly looking at just biting the bullet and upgrading to a different truck that’s a little newer, a little less miles. So I’m curious what trucks between 2015 and the early 2020s would be the better options to look at for reliability and performance.
SPEAKER 11 :
Depends on who owned it prior. And I’m being straight up honest, Cody. I mean, honestly, Dodge gets the worst mileage. Ford’s got a great vehicle, but their 3.5 EcoBoost, if that’s the one you buy, requires a little more maintenance. The Chevy Silverado, you could do the 5.3 or the 6.2, depending upon what model of truck you buy, or some of those even came with the Inline Duramaxes, which if it’s got miles on it, I would stay away from. But really, any three of those, it all really comes down to, and I’m watching Josh and Justin both who are in that world constantly. This one comes down to who owned it.
SPEAKER 26 :
Yeah, and no small diesels. No small diesels at all. Stay away from those.
SPEAKER 11 :
Don’t do the EcoDiesel, Ram, none of that.
SPEAKER 26 :
Or the baby Duramax.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, that’s what I was saying. Stay away from that one, too. Unless it’s got 10,000 miles or something on it, which you probably won’t find because they’re going to be a boatload of money. Yeah, I’d stay away from those. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Don’t throw out Tundra. Yeah, Tundra, Titan, both other than. Not the brand new one.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, the only downside to the Tundras and the Titans, Cody, is their mileage sucks. It’s like the Dodge. It’s actually worse than the Dodge.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I know that especially the Tundras for years have known to last forever, but getting 12, 13 miles a gallon on a good day is not doable. And the Rams will do 15 or 16, the EcoBoosts will do 18 to 20, and the Chevys will do 20 to 22.
SPEAKER 26 :
Gotcha. Yeah, John, Josh, is there a gear range where you can avoid the cylinder deactivation, too?
SPEAKER 11 :
No.
SPEAKER 26 :
Are they all doing that now?
SPEAKER 11 :
They are, but that goes back to who owned it, how often were things serviced, and if the truck was really maintained well, oil changes regularly, and so on. Would I buy a used one of those? Sure. Again, Cody, this all comes down to not the truck, but who owned it. Okay.
SPEAKER 26 :
And back to pre-purchase inspections.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I can’t stress that one enough. It really comes down to getting it checked, who owned it, what kind of records do we have on it. You know, was it not bragging, but did somebody like me own it? Did it do everything like they were supposed to and the thing’s a cream puff without a scratch on it? At that point, I don’t care what brand it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. So, yeah, then it doesn’t matter too much. What brand, what model, just stay away from the smaller diesels and check out.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I say that, and a lot of people are going to be like, oh, no, you can only buy a Chevy or only buy a Dodge. No, I mean, guys, this is like buying shoes. I’m being very honest. Really anymore, all of them have problems. I get a report every Monday from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on the recalls of the week. And as I read through that, no one is immune from them. Everybody has them from Bentley to Porsche to Mercedes to Kia and Hyundai and everybody in between. I mean, reality, Cody, is everybody’s got some sort of a problem and some idiosyncrasy with that particular vehicle. Some of the vehicles out there, it could be transmission, it could be engine, it could be drivetrain, it could be paint, it could be this, it could be that. And in a lot of cases, again, as I go back to what I said initially, really comes down to who owned the vehicle prior.
SPEAKER 08 :
Gotcha. Okay, well, yeah, thanks for the advice and the help there.
SPEAKER 11 :
And in your case, by the way, one last thing. So truck’s driving now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, it is, I guess. So some of the symptoms it’s been giving me, I guess, it seems like something’s dragging, like almost kind of like maybe the four-wheel drive is trying to be engaged, but it’s off. And then driving down the interstate at one point, it almost felt like it slipped into neutral, revved up, lost acceleration. And then I went off the gas and it kicked back in. And then after that, it seems to flutter like maybe 50 to 80 or 100 RPMs. Yeah. And it feels like a slight shift almost, but it’s not actually shifting.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s all pressures in the valve body and the transmission, and it’s most likely gut. So here’s what I would do. If you think you’re going to get rid of the truck, I wouldn’t even have it diagnosed, checked, whatever. I would have, as we’ve been talking, service the transmission, get it flushed, see if you can get it to drive halfway normal, dump it, and then get your next truck. I wouldn’t spend any money on it. Okay. Outside of that.
SPEAKER 08 :
It depended the point where I was at. If it needed serious work with the miles and the blue book value I looked up, the…
SPEAKER 11 :
cost of it’s going to be half of what the truck’s worth and i just don’t really feel like putting much into it i don’t blame you not not at 168 i think you could upgrade to a different truck and and i don’t normally say that because typically you can keep your old truck running longest and cheapest and so on but in your case mileage knowing where you live and so on i i think i would do the swap okay Sounds good. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks again.
SPEAKER 11 :
Great call, Cody. Thank you for that a bunch. I appreciate that. And, folks, really, as you guys can all tell, I am not brand specific, especially when it comes to buying used cars. I am not brand specific. I am more of who owned the vehicle. How well was it taken care of? What kind of maintenance did it have done to it? How well was it even to Roy’s point? What’s the paint and body and all of that look like? I mean, to me, I’m more worried about all of that as I am. Is it a Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Nissan, Toyota, etc.? ?
SPEAKER 26 :
And, Cody, I should have mentioned, if you’re still listening, if you’re not getting good offers on that truck, reach out to us up north, Ridgeline Automotive, Fort Collins. We might be interested in buying that truck and putting a transmission in it. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
There we go. Great idea. All right. We’ll be right back, guys. Drive Radio. Lines are open 303-477-5600. This is KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 11 :
All right, we are back. Halfway through today’s program, Drive Radio KLZ 560. Thank you guys all for listening. Line open, 303-477-5600. Mike in Highlands Ranch, go ahead.
SPEAKER 21 :
Hey, John, your last caller brought something interesting up. On his truck, he said he looked up Blue Book value. Now, years ago, I had a lot of friends that were wholesalers. And I’d go out to the auction and hang out with them and go by where they worked. And many of them had worked at dealerships, et cetera. And they used NADA book to get values. out here. The Kelley Blue Book was not something that they wanted to deal with or that they thought was even close to accurate. I’m curious today if that’s the case. I used to subscribe to get the NADA, but now you can go online. And I also notice that Kelley Blue Book seems to have a higher value per vehicle than NADA. And I also remember a few of the old wholesaler’s things, what’s left side opener, all the little cliches that they would throw out. And I’m curious, what does everybody use these days? If you go to a dealership and you go see the used car guy or he’s bidding on it, are they using NADA or Kelly or a combination?
SPEAKER 26 :
Kelly Blue Book is kind of all over the place for values. They can be way high. They can be way low. They can be close to NADA. Kelly Blue Book has become more of an advertising platform than really a legitimate book to me. The reason we use NADA as our book guide, at least here in Colorado in the western United States, is that’s what our lenders want. are using to evaluate what a car is worth and how much they’re willing to loan on it. So that’s going to be our most accurate. But you can also look at market values, too. NADA is not always going to be accurate with what a car is doing in the market. Some cars, we’ll call them soft. You know, it might have a higher book value than… We’re buying them from the auction or what they’re getting listed for online. And some vehicles are higher than NADA, typically. Toyotas, that’s one of those nameplates where you’re going to spend $1,000 or $2,000 higher than what clean retail is. But NADA is going to be your closest.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay, that’s curious because I thought that too. The banks were using NADA back then. I also noticed when I… I’d go to the auctions with them, etc. For instance, even in those days, Toyota 4Runners were, you know, two or three grand over left side opener on an NADA book. It’s just because they were so strong. And so I get it. Okay, well, you answered my question. I was just curious because the guy said he looked up the Blue Book value and I went, boy, does anybody even use that thing?
SPEAKER 26 :
No, if you get onto kellybluebook.com, you’re just getting redirected to whoever’s advertising with them. Typically, that’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay, well, that’s good to know, fellas. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 11 :
You’re welcome, Mike. Appreciate you, man. Have a great rest of your day. Jerry, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 15 :
In the past, I’ve heard you talk about the separate batteries for the auto start-stop systems. And, well, I’ve got a couple of F-150s, a 2017 and a 2019. And I guess I’m wondering, do those batteries need to be changed out, like, proactively before they goof up and strand you somewhere?
SPEAKER 07 :
Usually they won’t leave you stranded. You’ll start getting a light on the dash that says start-stop disabled. And that’s usually the sign that it is. So what it will do is it will just turn off the start-stop. You won’t have the start-stop ability anymore as they start to go.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that’d be great. I don’t want the start-stop capability. I’d never use it.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s just going to pester you about it. That’s the problem with it.
SPEAKER 26 :
Now, Josh, I heard recently that if the start-stop battery starts going bad, that it can take out your main battery. Is that true?
SPEAKER 07 :
Some vehicles, yes. Okay. Because sometimes the computer doesn’t catch it.
SPEAKER 26 :
Maybe being proactive, you know, every three, four, five years you could.
SPEAKER 07 :
What I would recommend, to be honest, is I would replace, if you have the money, replace both at the same time. If you want to be proactive on it, that’s what you should do. That’s a great idea. But that’s the way to do it because they’re both the same age. They’re both lead-acid or AGM batteries. Usually the little start-top is still lead-acid because it’s basically the motorcycle battery or tractor battery you had with different terminals on it so they can charge you three times as much.
SPEAKER 26 :
And if it’s an AGM, it needs to be reprogrammed.
SPEAKER 07 :
It does. Most AGMs need to be reprogrammed.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really? What’s that entail?
SPEAKER 07 :
Usually you just have to have a factory scan tool or equivalent, and you go in and say this is the date or the mileage or, you know, whatever.
SPEAKER 11 :
So the alternate charges correctly.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, so the alternate charges. Because there’s a whole algorithm that they have to charge an AGM that’s different than a lead acid, and as an AGM ages, they have to be charged harder. So if you don’t tell it, it knows when the last battery was installed. It’ll charge the new battery too hard. Yeah, and it’ll take out that new battery. Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow. Well, that’s good to know. I never heard that. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
And almost all cars have two, but there are a few cars, believe it or not, that only run one battery with start-stop.
SPEAKER 07 :
They do. And that was a difference with some of the Chryslers. If it had a lead acid, it was non-start-stop. If it had an AGM, it was start-stop.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow. Okay. Well, that’s valuable knowledge. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 11 :
You’re very welcome, Jerry. Thanks for the phone call. Gary, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, hi, John. Hey, Gary. I wanted to call and thank you. About three weeks ago, I called you with a check engine light. It had an EVAP code, and you said, before you do anything, bring it into the shop for the $200 diagnostic. Replace the gas cap. And I did, and the check engine light went off after about three days.
SPEAKER 11 :
Nice. Good job. Good job.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. So thank you so much.
SPEAKER 11 :
You’re very welcome. And sometimes, and I’m not belittling anybody, Gary, but a lot of times shops will do all sorts of different things and go through all sorts of different scenarios and forget some of the basic things. And in this case, as a customer, just go put a new cap on it, high quality, which you did and we talked about. Go put a high quality cap on it and start there and get one thing out of the way.
SPEAKER 20 :
And John, I wanted to ask you, this isn’t exactly a car question, but it won’t take a minute to answer. On the California fires, I was wondering, what if you rebuilt a metal house, a house made of metal? Would that prevent it from burning down, or is that not enough?
SPEAKER 11 :
Not enough. I mean, metal buildings still catch on fire, not necessarily the structure, but typically the inside, the contents and so on. Those will. So, you know, unless you’ve got a house, Gary, where everything on the inside of it is built out of non flammables, which I’m not sure anybody would want to. live that way i really have no idea how you would you would keep a house completely quote unquote fire free now what i will say and i think this is something that more builders need to start looking at especially in high fire areas and they’re starting to develop more of this If builders would look at more flammable-proof glass, and what I mean by that is glass that doesn’t shatter when it gets super hot, because as I’ve said many times, the fire is seeking oxygen. As the glass shatters or breaks, that fire runs into the house, and it burns the house from the inside out, not the outside in like most people think. So if you could somehow get your house completely sealed up, fireproof glass and so on, I think you stand a higher chance of not having any issues. Because, again, even in a metal… house like what you’re talking about regular windows you’re no different than anybody else well i’ll tell you what john i would build a very small metal house with those windows um if i could live on a beach in malibu there you go you know the really quick the other thing that might get more popular gary because of what just happened and for all of you listening it’s not a car thing but it’s very intriguing for those of you listening go look at 3d printed concrete houses gary and they’re getting to be much much much more popular and it’s literally an entire house literally printed they call it printing but it’s built out of The downside is once it’s done, no change is made after because you’re talking concrete walls.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. But you talk about being fireproof, they would be. I’d live in one of those on a beach in Malibu any day.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know what? I can’t argue that, Gary.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks, Don. Thanks, man. Appreciate you very much. All right. We’ll be right back, guys. Don’t go anywhere. Lines are open. Drive Radio, 303-477-5600.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. Okay, Roy Dietze, ProTech AutoShield over on WeRidge. I keep getting questions off the text line because we talked about the big sunroof. How do you protect that from shattering? You guys talked about the PPS, and I’ve had a couple of text messages saying, can I really do that?
SPEAKER 30 :
Yeah, so there’s a new product. It’s called WPF. So it’s not paint protection film. It’s windshield protection film.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 30 :
So it’s specifically made for the windshield.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. But you can do sunroof with it as well.
SPEAKER 30 :
Yes. We actually did a 4Runner that had the sunroof, and it’s held up pretty well. So, yes, you can do that on the windshield. You can do that on the sunroof. You can do that on back glass. And, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Is it more money than regular PPF, about the same? Where is it at on that one?
SPEAKER 30 :
It’s a little more expensive than the regular PPF. It’s a new technology, so they’re still working out all the issues. I think we’ve gone through five different brands that we’ve been testing. And like I said, it’s a new technology, so sometimes they’re made usually in California, where they don’t have all the snow, all the salt.
SPEAKER 23 :
All the abrasives and so on, yeah.
SPEAKER 30 :
Yeah, so we were having the problem that any time that it’s known and you have all that dirt on the floor and every time that you would use a bunch of wipers, it would scratch it and then you have all that glare coming. So we recently got a new one from Ceramic Pro that they just launched, I want to say two, three months ago.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 30 :
And one of our guys put it on his car to test it out. And, like, two days later, it snowed, and it held pretty good. So far, so good. Yeah, so far, so good.
SPEAKER 11 :
So for those of you listening, yes, if you’re worried about, you know, sunroof shattering, something along those lines, being able to protect that, yeah, you guys at ProTech can take care of all of that. Plus, like I said earlier, they do full wraps. They can do all the PPF. They can do paint correction, full detailing as well, which we don’t talk about enough, but they’ll do a full detail on your car as well. PDR as well, right? Paintless dent removal. PDR, yeah. Window tint. What am I missing?
SPEAKER 30 :
The vinyl wraps, the window tint, the ceramic coatings.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, ceramic coating, I forgot, yes.
SPEAKER 30 :
Which going back to the winter tips, ceramic coating will help with cleaning the snow and all that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Okay, when we come back top of the hour, let’s talk about that because, yes, living proof, yes, it does work, in fact. Jeff in Montana, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 18 :
Hey, good morning. Actually, I’m in Utah. My wife painted a medical procedure, so we’re down here and everything went well. Okay, good. So, yeah, a question to comment. The question is, I’ve been inflating, you know, I watch the tire pressure on the monitoring system, and when it gets below 35 psi when I’m stationary, I’ll inflate it. But that varies by season. And I noticed that it was getting up as high when I’m driving as 39. I checked it yesterday morning. It was at 35. So I’m not worried about it. But changes in elevation and temperature will affect that. So I’ve never heard you, I don’t think, talk about how closely should you keep that pressure at 35. Maximum or maximum are recommended when it’s cold. And is there a maximum you need to worry about? I mean, obviously, there is a good 100 psi and a 35 psi tire. But is there any thoughts about that whole situation?
SPEAKER 07 :
Go ahead, Josh. Where I would go is, so this is kind of, you’re going to have seasonal changes unless you put nitrogen in. Right. Which most places still don’t have nitrogen. I mean, it’s, so that’s neither here nor there. But in the summertime, if you had a garage that’s like 65 degrees, set it to the door sticker. That’s the easiest way to put it. Mm-hmm. During the winter, you’re always going to have a day where it’s colder, and you’re going to have to inflate your tires. But it’s the way the system’s set up. There’s usually a temperature part on the door sticker that says what temperature it needs to be to set it at 35 degrees.
SPEAKER 11 :
The problem with the TPMS systems, Jeff, as you know, is there’s just not a huge range there to where it could be a little overinflated or a little underinflated, but if it gets outside of that window, light comes on. Yep, exactly.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. I’ve never had a light at 39 PSI, so I think it knows that it’s. warming up as it’s moving.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it also, in the TPMS sensor, most people don’t know, there is a temperature sensor there. So the computer gets the data of not only the pressure, but the temperature. So it can kind of extrapolate what it needs on that to know whether it’s at the light based on the temperature of the tire. So it knows you’re going down the highway at 85 miles an hour. That tire is going to get warm. And your temperature, you know, your pressure is going to rise because it also sees the temperature rise with it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. Okay. So there’s some intelligence built into the whole system.
SPEAKER 07 :
There is.
SPEAKER 11 :
Some are better than others. Some are better than others.
SPEAKER 18 :
Some are not very good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Some are really intelligent, and some are not at all.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Okay, and then a comment. That’s good to know. Thank you. And then a comment on kind of combining the fires. I remember when we had the Black Forest fire when I lived in Colorado Springs, and you could see it burning. all the black smoke coming off of it, and then every once in a while there’d be a puff of white smoke because the house went up about every 90 seconds there for a while. But after it, there was a commercial. I’m not sure it was a commercial. I think it was a Ford commercial because it was an F-150. It had been completely smoked, and tires were gone and everything. It was just sitting on the ground. But it was kind of on a whim, I think. The guy went in and turned the key, and the engine fired up. So, like I said, I don’t know if that was a staged commercial trying to build Ford Tough kind of thing, or if it was based on an actual situation, but I thought it was kind of funny. Interesting. If I was going to do a commercial, that’s what I would do for a vehicle. Not even a fire could stop us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Interesting. I never saw that one. That one’s news to me.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Anyway, I appreciate you. Jeff, appreciate you. California folks don’t realize what the insurance is going to do.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, they do not.
SPEAKER 18 :
It’s going to do nothing but go up.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s a fact. You got that right. Yep. Appreciate you, Jeff. Thank you very much. Somebody actually texted me a moment ago on some local commercial building that can be printed and so on. So the concrete 3D – they call it 3D printing, although they’re using concrete for the quote-unquote printing – It’s actually gaining in popularity as it gets more popular. The cost will come down, of course. And is it a decent way to construct, you know, a house or commercial building? I think it’s getting more and more popular all the time. The biggest downfall is once it’s set, it’s set. Right. You know, houses now, if you want to change an interior room around or knock a wall out or whatever, yeah, you just go do that. This, you know, concrete printing will make that a little bit more difficult. All right, we’ve got another full hour coming your way, guys. I’ve got a couple of things that I want to add on some cold weather tips. That’s the question of the day is your favorite cold weather tip. We’ll be right back, though. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 31 :
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