In this episode, the conversation transitions from the heartbreak of a missed football game to the subtleties of streaming culture. The discussion unveils a blend of nostalgia and modernity, dissecting the quiet beauty of a show’s opening theme and the convenience of skipping recaps and intros. Uncover how political interference is colorfully criticized amidst the chaos of La La Land’s wildfires, and take a look at the political motivations hiding behind crisis management. A humorous and insightful dialogue offering a peek into the dynamic world of TV fandom and political storytelling.
SPEAKER 01 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here’s today’s Eminem experience.
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Look, we got 53 things going. I need to know one thing from you right now. Did you finish the season? Don’t say a word.
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You didn’t. Did you go to bed? Well, no, I had to go over to the Tampa Bay game and watch the Washington Redskins, because I refused to call them whatever name they wanted to use, beat the Tampa Bay Bucs with two seconds on the clock. Heartbreaking loss.
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With a field goal that clanged off the upright.
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And then went in anyway. And went through. And went in anyway.
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That’s a metaphor. That’s a metaphor.
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So anyway, I made it through nine episodes of Landman. I’m up to number 10, the finale. You know what I hate about… It’s an hour and a half. Well, that’s why I gave up. Because I looked at it and it was an hour and 22 minutes or something. I thought, that’s too late for me. So I’m going to watch it tonight. But, you know… Two quick takeaways about Takeaway. This is what I hate about the new world of streaming we’re in. I know from your excitement that this final episode is pretty epic. It’s remarkable. But I don’t want to know anything about it until I watch it, right? Of course. But on Paramount+, on the stream, on the app, or whatever the hell you call it, pardon me, It clearly shows a scene from number 10 as the thumbnail, and I didn’t want to see that.
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Yes.
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Well, I’ll just put it this way. It doesn’t go well for our boy. So Billy Bob is in a compromised position is all I can see. That’s the picture they chose to show? How about you don’t give us any indication of an evidence?
SPEAKER 02 :
A generic shot of him and his wife and his daughter. Yeah, or something. Don’t show him. Not something that reveals what might be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, clearly something is revealed in that thumbnail, which I didn’t want to have it revealed. Oh, dude. And number two, real quick. I know you talked to earlier. I was listening to you this morning about Taylor Sheridan. Isn’t it interesting? Now, I have fond memories of Yellowstone because when I got sick with COVID over a Christmas two years ago, I binged it like the whole Christmas week by myself alone. The house was all decorated with nobody to come into because here I am with stupid COVID. And so I would wake up and watch Yellowstone episodes all day long. Okay. And I actually kind of loved it. I mean, you know, no drama, no Christmas drama. And I got to see what has become one of my favorite shows. Mm-hmm. Every time I heard the distinctive theme music to start Yellowstone, you get kind of tingles, right? It’s like you love a good theme song, right? Have you noticed it is crap for Landman? It’s these low, no melody sort of strings. There’s nothing to it.
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And I’m surprised that he would go along with that. Small disclosure. Really, really small disclosure. But first, to the creative point that you make, I don’t think I necessarily need a flourishing orchestral thing to begin every show. I do. It may be the opening theme of Landman may be as sparse as the landscape in which it takes place. Well, there’s probably some artistic. But here’s my thing. Speaking of which, as you’re streaming. Isn’t there a button skip intro? I haven’t listened to the opening credits or the opening theme of a TV show in five years. Skip, skip, skip. Here’s a minute and a half I don’t need.
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Skip recap and skip intro. You could also skip the recap.
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Marital debate, marital debate, marital debate. I love the recap. Lisa thinks I’m insane, especially when you’re binging and you just finished the previous episode. Well, that’s it. I’m just binging. I’m just watching. Previously on Landman.
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Right, I just saw it.
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But here’s the thing. You know they’re not just throwing scenes together willy-nilly. The recap is designed to bring back into focus stuff that you either saw the previous week or 20 minutes ago, as the case may be, because that’s probably a connection that they’re going to make and carry through in the plot of the episode you’re about to see. So she goes, oh, get through this, get through this. Yeah, Lisa’s right.
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Lisa’s right. Yeah. She’s right, because Lisa and I have an attention span more than a gnat. Evidently, you can’t remember five minutes ago.
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That is true. Totally true.
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But isn’t it fascinating how everything is different with the way you watch a series now? You can watch it like that. And, you know, look, I’m a longtime veteran radio guy. I love advertising, frankly, because I know it’s baked into the cake. You get to skip past all of that when you’re watching it. I was thinking the other day about how many things are different. Receptionists are becoming extinct. There really is, and it’s sad.
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Human beings showing up at the front of the office to meet people in your crowded office setting. Back to TV for two seconds. Number one, the ability to binge, I love it. Some I now resent shows that make me wait a week. The Greatness of Shrinking, which is with Jason Segel, Harrison Ford, just finished season two. Here comes Severance back on HBO or Apple TV, excuse me, which is that weird. It’s weird. But they’re going to make me wait every week, which is like old school. It’s like, no, I want to see them all now. No, no, no, no, no.
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Like the Sopranos. The Sopranos was an event for Denise and the kids and I. She would make, it was ridiculous, as if we’re Italian, but she’d make baked ziti. And we would, on Sunday nights, we would sit around and watch. And there’s that, again, that theme. Woke up this morning. Got myself a good. I mean, you’ve got to have a theme. West Wing, one of the great classic show opens.
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Sopranos might have been the last time in America. that everybody gathered at the water cooler. Remember water coolers? That everybody gathered the following morning and talked about what they saw the previous night. Isn’t that pretty well largely gone in America? It’s gone.
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We don’t do that anymore. Look, and you and I on air, we don’t want to give things away. You don’t know how far along somebody is in a series.
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I did something the other day where we talked about a show that had been on in like a year and somebody reamed me on the text line. Hey, I haven’t seen that yet. It’s like, dude.
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I know. It’s been a year.
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What am I supposed to do?
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I know. Well, anyway, happy Monday. We’ll talk tomorrow about the finale. But then we shouldn’t talk too specifically about the finale.
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No, no, no. Because I’m going to give people, listen, I’ll give people whatever they need. But it is just, the show is a masterpiece. Billy Bob is so good. Some of the plot lines about his wife and his daughter, who are fun, fun characters, gets a little silly. Isn’t she a dead ringer for Anna Nicole Smith?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Yes. Did you notice that? She looks and even acts just like the late Anna Nicole Smith. And I didn’t recognize her name. I looked it up because she’s not famous. I mean, she’s a working actress, clearly. And it’s a great ensemble. The son is great. Ali Larker. Never heard of her. You know, I’ve never seen her. But she’s great. She’s wonderful. And the lawyer buddy of his that’s the roommate. Poor Nate. Poor Nate. Poor, put upon Nate. In this episode, really poor Nate. Well, no, don’t stop. Hush. No, no, no. No, don’t tell me they’re off. They don’t kill Nate, do they? Oh, no, no, no. I don’t mean poor Nate, that he’s dead. No, no, no. Oh, good, good.
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All right, good.
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La, la, la, la, la, la, la. All right, so anyhow, welcome in.
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You know what? Last thing, last thing, last thing. The greatness, and she’s only in for a few, I think she might have more to do in the second season. Demi? The greatness of Demi Moore. I know. How old is she? 50-ish or something. Alexa, how old is Demi Moore?
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You talk too fast when you said it. You said it too fast. Slow down. They say 62. Yeah, I think she’s our age. I think she’s in her 60s.
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And I’ll tell you what.
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And she looks 39. She looks wonderful.
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She just won a Golden Globe for this. Did you tell me about the substance? No, I didn’t see it. About the movie she’s in? Mm-mm. She’s great. It’s very clever. It’s unbelievably gross. It’s just too gross.
SPEAKER 03 :
There are plastic surgeries that don’t go well. Whatever she does, somebody ought to try to capture that in a bottle because she looks fantastic. She looks great. She is 62, dude. I thought so. See, and you tell me she looks 62. You’re not a wrinkle anywhere. She looks fantastic.
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Now, she can’t smile, but she looks good. What was the old Joan Rivers line? When I smile, the garage door opens. I don’t even know what that means.
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All right, so like Texans, I went to South Carolina Friday to catch some snow. Now, there’s nothing more obnoxious than a Yankee making fun of Southerners panicking about the snow. I’d say the same thing about Texas. You could expand that. There’s nothing worse than somebody from New York telling a Texan, you guys don’t handle weather very well. But I will say this. I’ve never seen so much panic over literally 0.4 tenths of an inch of snow. That’s what it wound up getting. It was half an inch. You’d have thought it was the biggest blizzard in the history of South Carolina. Yeah.
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Well, they shut Atlanta. Atlanta got the same storm system, and they shut it down for two or three days. Oh, they shut Greenville down. Shut the whole thing down.
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They shut schools down. They shut everything down. Now, they always go with the caveat, well, there’s some ice involved. But look, I thought about the cold weather that all of us are kind of experiencing to one degree or the other. And, of course, realizing it pales in comparison to Los Angeles. And this thing is… Now, Mark… Here’s why Trump is so good. Here’s what he posted on Truth Social overnight. The fires are still raging in L.A. The incompetent polls have no idea how to put them out. Pauls, I guess. How do you pronounce Pauls? Pauls for politician. Pauls for politician. He writes, thousands of magnificent homes are gone. Many more will soon be lost. There’s death all over the place. This is one of the worst catastrophes in the history of our country ever. They just can’t put out the fires. What’s wrong with them? Mark, since this thing began, I thought, I’m a simple guy. I don’t understand meteorology. I get that I don’t know wildfires and burns and controlled burns. How the heck do you have a city like Los Angeles completely unprepared for wildfires? And by the way, while we’re on the subject, I saw last night on the news, well, there’s eight. There have been eight different wildfires that all began at the same time. How does that work, Mark? I don’t like to go down conspiracy theory rabbit holes, but something doesn’t add up here. No water in the fire hydrant? Well, you know, don’t pay attention to that. It’s overwhelmed. The system’s overwhelmed.
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And anybody who brings that up, like Trump or you or me, Gavin Newsom scolding people over the weekend for politicizing people’s suffering. Dude, it’s your politics that’s exacerbating their suffering.
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Well, let’s talk about Gavin Newsom and politicization for just a moment. Have you heard that he was posting on social media, just launched a new site to ensure the public has access to fact-based data? You know what the new site is? What? It’s a site that directs people to ActBlue, his political pack. He was caught for scamming his 2.1 million followers, asking them to donate to his political pack because he wants to run for president someday.
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So on the auspice of seeking, of guiding people toward information about the fires and certain civic-minded things, it wound up being a fundraising pitch.
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It’s a fundraising thing. And Elizabeth Warren did the same thing, directing people to Act Blue. Act Blue is the scandal-ridden leftist scam to raise money for leftists like all of them. They’re awful people. And this woman calling out Ted Cruz a few years ago for going to Cancun in the ice storm, she declares an emergency in L.A. and gets on a plane and goes to Ghana. Karen Bass. I mean, Karen Bass, this ridiculous. She’s awful. I mean, they’re all awful. And the fire chief is calling them all out, saying, look, we don’t have the resources. They took the resources from us. Yes, indeed. Well, I thought she was fired. Did you see there was a report that she was fired? There was.
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She was twisting the wind there for about a day, and then all of a sudden she’s fired. Well, they had a meeting. Keeping the gig.
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They had a one-on-one. Karen Bass and the fire chief had a meeting, and boom, all off. Now there’s no firing. I mean, it’s a nightmare out there. And you see these video images. Mark, we just can’t really comprehend it.
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I absolutely can’t. I know I’ve never been through a hurricane, but I know what one is. I’ve never had a tornado hit me directly, but I can imagine in my little brain sort of what that’s like. This thing of having these mansions, or it doesn’t even have to be a mansion. With a big window where the fire is like a mile away, and then three minutes later, it’s eating your yard. It’s like, what? I mean, is there no technology? Is there not any water-resistant systems? Well, here’s what’s weird. Okay, technology. Now, this is either the dumbest thing that anybody can say, and some people are saying it. I think Trump said it. Or it’s brilliant. Hello, ocean. You’re on a coastal city. You’re next to the ocean. Isn’t there some way, and I don’t think fires care if the water is salty, the fire still goes out. Shouldn’t there be some massive, some pipe? I don’t even know, but it would seem like this is solvable.
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Years ago. A year ago, I took the show to Kansas after they had a devastating, a whole town. Remember that was a green, I think it was, remember Eric, the town was a Greenberg. We did a broadcast from there. And that’s, that’s what these images from Florida or from California look like to me. Like the entire miles of cities are completely gone, house after house. And that was what that city was in Greenville, Greenberg. It was unbelievable. Every city. Every block, the whole city was wiped out, and that’s what this feels like. And I’m with Trump. I’m sorry. We’re going to explore this today. Of course, what a week we’re going to have. I mean, we’ve got the confirmation hearings.
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Are you ready? The hearings are underway tomorrow. Yep. You buckled in, and then this weekend. Who’s going to have the most fireworks? Hegseth? Gabbard? Kash Patel? Oh, yes, yes.
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That one’s the one that’s going to probably get the popcorn out for cash. Speaking of FBI, did you catch Christopher Wray on 60 Minutes?
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I did. I’m a conservative Republican. And the Chinese are a terrible threat. Well, no kidding, Sherlock. My dog knows the Chinese are a threat.
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Well, at least he didn’t sit there, though, and tell the guy, well, you know, white supremacist is the worst terrorist threat. At least he did address China. But, yeah, I suffered through that and watched the 60 Minutes piece. I thought, man, if you hadn’t asked any tough questions, I would have slumped over. Absolutely. Reputational Repair, underway in 60 minutes. And then this weekend, Off for D.C. will be there Monday for the inauguration.
SPEAKER 02 :
So cool. Can’t wait to vicariously experience it through our buddy Mike. I can’t wait.
SPEAKER 03 :
You got it. All right. Happy Monday. No giveaways. No giveaways. No spoilers. No epics on Landman. No sir. Go Billy Bob. I hope Billy Bob takes out the whole cartel. That’s what I’m hoping.
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