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Join Kim Monson as she unpacks the complexities of today’s political landscape by exploring the ongoing tug-of-war between government control and individual freedom. Engaging guests discuss the roles of citizens in shaping local, state, and national policies. From in-depth analysis of new legislation to the principles of classical liberalism, this episode offers a thorough examination of factors impacting our rights and opportunities. Discover the tools you need to navigate the political sphere with clarity and purpose. Alongside lively discussions, the show also highlights the importance of knowing and supporting businesses and organizations which align with personal values, inviting listeners
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It’s the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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And when government gets bigger, the individual gets smaller.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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For thee, but not for me. And I agree that we’ve got to change that.
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If, in fact, you are working for the man, it’s a new form of slavery.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Chaotic Wednesday. So Trent Luce is in town. It’s a Trent Luce Wednesday. He’s going to be in studio here in the second hour. He has a live television show. It’s 530 to 6 Mountain Time. And so we just did that show together. And I’m not used to doing video this early in the morning, Producer Joe.
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And I felt like I was running around like a chicken with my eggs at all.
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So it’s great to have him. So he’ll be in in the second hour. We’ve got Jay Davidson in the first hour. Since it is Wednesday, that means that it is Wings Day Wednesday at Hooters Restaurants. You buy 20 wings. You get an additional 10 for free. That’s for to go or to dine in. And super delicious. I like the lemon pepper rub or the Texas barbecue rub. And they have five locations. Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. So be sure and check that out. And of course, Great place to watch. It’s going to be a big football weekend and a great place to watch all those games is Hooters restaurants. So first thing, let’s get into our word of the day, which is immeasurable. And it – well, this is – I can’t believe this. The first definition is impossible to measure. Well, I could figure that one out, right? So – but limitless, incalculable, and incapable of being measured, indefinitely extensive, and – I think that the opportunity, I think people are looking to 2025 with an immeasurable optimism. I don’t think that we quite realized how concerned we’ve been about so many different things and certainly excited in less than a week that Donald Trump will be inaugurated. But as I was talking with Trent Luce, we need to be active actively. And engaged in our local, our county and our state government. And that is why we really encourage you on the state level. It seems sometimes it seems like it’s immeasurable, the different things that we have to watch. But a great tool in your toolbox would be to join the Colorado, yeah, the Colorado Council. Union of Taxpayers. And this is an all-volunteer organization that watches legislation down at the statehouse. And we take positions on things regarding taxes, property rights, school choice, protecting Colorado’s taxpayers’ bill of rights, TABOR. And this is a great tool to have in your toolbox. Join us. It’s just $25. And for less than $2.08 a month, you will receive hours and hours of analysis from our volunteers. Those volunteers, when you see them, say thank you. And that is our board, Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, and Corey Onasorg. And we’d love to have you join us. I think that we’ll probably be starting to take our positions this next weekend. There’s already been 134 bills that have been introduced, and that is pretty remarkable. They’ll be setting them for hearing and so we will be taking positions on that our text line i want to hear from you is 720-605-0647 and as you know we look at these issues we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something’s a good idea you should not have to force people to do it and is never compassionate to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives. Force can be a weapon, policy unpredictable, an excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. World Economic Forum’s agenda, the Globalist Elite’s agenda, United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, Colorado Governor, the World Health Organization, land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. Oh, and now the show’s over. We have nothing else to talk about because we went through the whole list of all of these things of force. We’ve got to reclaim our state and our country, and we’ve got to get government put back into control. Its proper role. And remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not need to use force to implement it. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. Thank you to all of you who support us. The show is on live six to eight a.m. Monday through Friday, that’s Mountain Time. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. That is on all the KLZ platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. Since Jay Davidson is our featured guest in our number one, he is a student of the Austrian School of Economics. And, of course, that is founded by Ludwig von Mises. And so I thought it would be good to go to von Mises for our quote of the day. He was born in 1881. He died in 1973. He was an Austrian-American economist, logician, logician. There we go. sociologist and philosopher of economics of the Austrian school. He wrote and lectured extensively on the societal contributions of classical liberalism and the power of consumers. And he’s best known for his work in praxeology, particularly for studies comparing communism and capitalism, as well as for being a defender. of classical liberalism in the face of rising illiberalism and authoritarianism throughout much of Europe during the 20th century. And Joe, what I find so interesting is about words. Is classical liberals, liberalism, focuses on individual rights. It focuses on capitalism, which is the free exchange of goods and services between individuals. And I’m not quite sure how that class liberalism, the word liberal then was co-opted by those that were moving towards more and more government control, more and more government control of our lives, moving towards socialism and communism. That’s why what we do, this battle of language is so important, Joe.
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You’re absolutely right. And, you know, I was just thinking about it as you were saying that. I think the lack of trust in people and that people are just inherently good all the time, that has died away and that generally that’s what they say. Since we can’t trust people to be inherently good, we’re going to force them to be good now. And I think that’s the big change.
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And so what you’re hitting on is with liberalism is they – as you mentioned, they think that they can use government to force people to – To be better and better, that we can evolve into something better and better. The founders understood. They had studied human nature. Human nature is the same generation from generation to generation. There will be those in each generation that will try to get stuff without having to work for it. So through theft, if you will. And you can now see that governments… You might not go over and knock on your neighbor’s door and say… Hey, give me your money for what I want to do. But you could use government to go over and use taxes and fees to take that money and then redistribute to somebody else. And that is not OK. And the founders understood human nature big time. And we talked about profits yesterday with you and producer Luke as we’re going through the book by Henry Hazlitt, Economics in One Lesson. Von Mises said this, taxing profits is tenement to taxing success. And I’ve always thought, again, during the progressive era, was when the income tax was added as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States. And once you started to tax income, you’re taxing people’s hard work. You’re taxing people’s taking risk and being successful. And I think we should repeal the income tax. I don’t think we should have the income tax. I think we should free people to be able to Take risks, go after their hopes and dreams, work hard, and keep most of the fruits of their labor. Producer Joe.
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I absolutely agree. And I actually just lost my thought.
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Okay, well, the quote is, taxing profits is tantamount to taxing success. And we’ll go through this day in history here when we come back. But I would say some of the biggest news of the day was the confirmation hearing of Pete Hegsteth to be the head of the Department of Defense, Defense Secretary. And I had talked to Yvonne. She said she thought he just did a great job on his initial remarks. And I watched some of the evening shows and we had one conservative that didn’t. was not did not uh think he did a great job which i thought was super interesting and then many others said that he did a great job he’s a soldier he’s boots on the ground he understands what’s going on that he understands our soldiers i think that that’s a really good idea versus these bureaucratic generals that probably have been um have gone through the process and uh So, anyway, that’s big news. I hope that he does get confirmed. But that’s probably the biggest news of the day. It is important that we have these conversations. We have them because of our sponsors. And the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team has been – he’s been in business for 48 years. So that really means something. They strive for excellence, takes care of his clients and his family and everything. Set up a complimentary appointment with all this stuff that is happening. You want to know and understand your insurance and make sure that you have the insurance that works for you. And that number is 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. I do want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. Susan was in town yesterday and said, hey, I have a few hours, love to get together, and we were not able to make that happen. But I do thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. Other news today. It looks like there will be a number of other of Donald Trump’s nominees for his cabinet will be facing their Senate hearings. Pam Bondi regarding the she’s Trump’s choice for attorney general. And then in additionally, Marco Rubio. who will be before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. And let’s see, I think it’s Secretary of State for him, if I remember right. And then Chris Wright from Denver, who is the nominee for the Department of Energy. And people are really, really excited about that. And John Ratcliffe is Trump’s choice to lead the CIA. And let’s see, Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary nominee. And Russ Vogt, who is on pace to lead the White House’s Office of Management and Budget. He is the founder. of the Center for Renewing America, which we’ve had on on a regular basis. So that’s going to be a big day in the news. Let’s see, going to California and the L.A., this mayor of L.A., and several of you have reached out to really show the ties that she has to communists and communists. So instead of taking care of the business of being the mayor of L.A. and representing the people and protecting their rights, she was off in Ghana. This is a headline that said that she had made a… a um a pledge that she was not going to be traveling outside of uh los sant well out of the country uh when she became uh mayor of la and actually she was in africa and uh so uh she’d made a campaign promise which i’m not surprised that she had gone back on and so we are really seeing front and sitter uh what um Bad decisions, the results of bad decisions in California. However, the PBIs are trying to blame it on climate change and gas-powered cars. And so we’ve got to continue to speak truth into this. It’s bad policy that has made this happen. It wasn’t climate change policy. that did not have water in the fire hydrants. And I think that’s important that we realize that. Several things that happened on this day in history. First thing I wanted, and I’ve been there, and that’s Frances Tavern, which is in New York City. And it is still in business. It’s down in the financial district. It’s the oldest and most historic bar in New York City. It’s where George Washington bid farewell to his officers after the Revolutionary War. And it opened in 1762. In 1870, the donkey was first used as the symbol of the Democrat Party and Harper’s Weekly. I find that interesting. The 1892 basketball rules were first published in Triangle Magazine, written by James Naismith. And we will be doing a show regarding basketball and James Naismith with Colonel Rutledge as we get closer to the March Madness. This, I thought, was super interesting. 1919, two million gallons of molasses flood Boston, Massachusetts in the Great Molasses Flood when a storage tank burst, drowning 21 people and injuring 150. Wow. Then, let’s see, 1932, there was a weather event, record snowfall of two inches in the city of L.A., Los Angeles, California. And in 1944, General Eisenhower arrives in England to take up his command as Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force, which then on June 6, 1944 – so they’re doing all this planning now – We’re in January. You get to June. And we have D-Day. And I thought that was super interesting as well. And then in 2009, remember this? Chelsea Sullenberger lands his U.S. Airways flight 1549 on the Hudson River shortly after takeoff from LaGuardia. in New York City. All the passengers and crew members survive in what becomes known as the Miracle on the Hudson. Do you remember the pictures of people standing on those wings and the fact that nobody died is amazing? Joe, you were probably just a little kid. Do you even remember this story?
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No, but they did come out with a movie. I believe Denzel Washington was the pilot, and it was actually a really, really good movie about him.
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Yeah, The Miracle on the Hudson. And so that’s this day in history. I think there was, I think the only other thing, 1943, the world’s largest office building, the Pentagon, is completed to house the U.S. military. I guess one other thing, 2001, wikipedia a free wiki or content encyclopedia is launched by jimmy wales and uh oh gosh didn’t come off his his other colleague so that’s this day in history my friends there is so much happening in our world right now and now that the colorado legislature is in session we need to really watch what is going on and again of those 134 bills that have already been introduced. There are some things that are really focused on taking away our rights. There is a Second Amendment bill that has already been introduced that we’re going to have to really keep an eye on on all of these things. And it is so important that we do that, bring truth and clarity to all of these different issues. And we do do this because we have amazing sponsors. And for everything regarding residential real estate, whether or not it’s buying a home, selling a home, or looking at a new build, reach out to Karen Levine. She’s been in that business for many years. She’s seen ups and downs within this market here. And there is great opportunity. And owning a home, you can create wealth for you and your family and, of course, the place that you call home. And so anything residential real estate, be sure to reach out to Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Thursday, January 23rd, you’ve got a choice of where you want to be. Two great events that evening down at the Center for American Values in Pueblo. They are having their On Values presentation regarding the USS Pueblo. And the USS Pueblo was captured by the North Koreans during the Vietnam War, and the crew was held captive for over a year. And Bob Chica, who was one of those prisoners, is going to be presenting on January 23rd. Down at the center in Pueblo, you can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org and just let them know that you’re planning on attending so that they’re sure that they have chairs and they normally have a little reception afterwards as well so that there’s food. And again, that’s AmericanValueCenter.org. Or you can join us. I’m bummed to miss that because I will be at the Colorado Union Taxpayers Legislative Kickoff event, which will be at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association on the 23rd. Tickets are $10, and we will have a number of legislators there and be awarding our cut awards as well to legislators from last year. So more information on that, go to coloradotaxpayer.org. So pleased to have on the line with me Jay Davidson. He is a fan favorite. He is the founder and CEO of First American State Bank, and he has a clear understanding of economics and money policy and fiscal policy and how it is that we’re where we are. Jay Davidson, welcome.
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Well, thank you, Kim. It’s a pleasure to be back with you.
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Well, and First American State Bank is a community bank located right here in the metro area. And I love the fact that you are at a point where people, young people, they’re so used to being able to do things online. And you can certainly accommodate them and have that personal banking relationship as well. So tell us just a little bit about that, Jay.
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Sure. Well, when I started in banking, we didn’t have iPhones and barely had cell phones. In fact, we didn’t back then. But I’m blown away by how rapidly technology has progressed. And today, this little iPhone that we’re talking on, or whatever you’re talking on, smartphone, has incredible capability. And so we’ve had to, kicking and screaming, get into the current age. We’ve hired several treasury management people and technology people and updated all of our technology suites so that now you can do almost all of your banking online without having to come into a bank and my daughter Michelle Gruber whom you know is heading up our advertising efforts to introduce this capability to The young people, I mean, the millennials were adults in their own right, making their own way. And we offer a unique combination of this high technology and high touch if you need it or when you need it. And I think that’s one of the unique things about our bank.
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Oh, I think so, too. So how can people get more information and come over to the bank? What’s the best next step for people?
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Usually folks will go online, FASBank, F-A-S-Bank.com. Real easy to remember, just FirstAmericanStateBank.com. Or call us, 303-694-6464. Or stop by. We’re just across the park from Yaya’s. down at the Denver Tech Center in Greenwood Village. Love to see you.
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Well, and you mentioned, Michelle, millennial. I am seeing many millennials that are starting to really test their entrepreneurial skills. Yeah, exactly. A community bank is a great relationship to have when you are starting to be an entrepreneur. Don’t you agree?
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Well, I do. We can offer a perspective that they can consider when they’re considering debt or expansion in some manner. And we can offer a perspective that they may not get somewhere else. We’ve seen a lot of things that go right and a few things that go wrong and bring that expertise to bear. And our same high level of customer service exists for all of our customers, regardless of the amount of money they have in the bank. It doesn’t matter at all. And in particular, the future of the bank is dependent on these young people coming into our bank. So we’re really making an effort, and you nailed it. I was so impressed at my kids’ friends when we’d go to their parties and meet their friends and just chat about stuff. They’re very… business-oriented, very disciplined, very motivated young people, and doing quite well already. They’re in their late 30s and early 40s, and they’re already making their way. So it’s just a delightful thing to see.
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Well, and one thing, I’d always had this misconception, I think, that you at First American State Bank only worked with those high-net-worth entrepreneurs, and that is not the case.
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Oh, not at all. No, we started the bank because I wanted to go to my friends. That was a low-hanging fruit, maybe you want to call it, and they tended to be high net worth or business owners or professionals, and we built the bank on that, but that’s not the future for our bank. I mean, they’re great. I love them. I do everything in my power to be sure they’re happy and keep them here, and we are successful there, but We have to expand into, and I didn’t say this to any business, we’ve got to attract the millennial and the Gen Xers and the younger people. And we’re not going to do it in the old ways that we were so successful doing before. And that’s why my daughter and the technology people here in the bank are pivotal to that future. I mean, these younger folks are not going to walk into a bank. It’s just not their world. But they’ll do everything online.
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But they have that relationship. And that is what I think is so great, Jay Davidson. You’re right.
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And the relationship is not something you would know off until you had some problems or you had an issue or you needed help. But once you have an issue, then that relationship becomes critically important. Whether you trust the banker or not and whether he trusts you or not is critical. And I’m glad you raised this point. It’s a very good point.
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And what year did you begin the bank or start the bank?
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1995.
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We’re 30 years now.
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Wow. That is so cool. So, again, more information on that. It’s First American State Bank. And that website is, again, FAS.com.
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FASbank.com.
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Okay, great. Well, Jay Davidson, let’s get into this piece that recently was published at American Thinker, The Center of Our Belief. This is such an important piece, and it addresses basically being a constitutionalist, which would be adhering to this American idea, or bigger and bigger governments. So where should we begin?
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Well, I wrote the piece because Although I’m probably obviously a lifelong Republican, I was raised with Democrats up in North Dakota, Montana, because most of the ranchers and farmers were Democrats. And so I came to appreciate both sides of the equation. And the old line, moderate Democrat, is almost identical to a moderate Republican or a centrist Republican. It’s basically get the government out of my life protect my nation, protect my family, and protect my freedoms. Don’t let the government take my freedoms. So I began to understand that both the Democratic Party, to a great extent, and to a lesser extent, the Republican Party, have moved away from core values that I hold, that I believe are important in our lives and in our political thinking and in our governance. And when I think about that, and I’ve been thinking about it for a long, long time, mostly because I’m very slow, but it takes a long time, as my wife would tell me. I began to realize that what are we? I mean, it’s all in the word of the formation of our nation. We are a constitutional republic. And I just say those words and it wouldn’t mean anything yet. My, what a profound statement because constitution, the constitution is the law of the land. And when you read the constitution, you see that all of its edicts, all of its laws, all of its directives are directed at the size and scope of the federal government, not necessarily at we citizens. The reason is that the second half of that, republic. Republic means a nation that is ruled by the people and for the benefit of the people. So you have to have a rule of law, the Constitution, and a mindset that the individual is sacrosanct. There’s a sanctity of the individual that’s embedded in our Constitution and our Bill of Rights and particularly in our Declaration of Independence. And so I began looking more closely at the declaration, and there was one line in there that just kind of blew my mind when I started thinking about it. It was, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. Whoops, I’m going on to Lincoln, who was another great constitutionalist. But Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence said there are certain inalienable rights implying bestowed by our creator on individuals, life, liberty, and the ownership of property. And so thinking about that, the basis of our nation, the unique feature of our nation is that the individual is sacrosanct and that everything that the government does should be directed toward protecting that individual freedom, not impinging on it, not enforcing things on us, not telling us what to do or not do. And that is not a statement of anarchy. It’s a statement of the individual must be allowed to make his or her own decisions. And the key issue in that point is ownership of property. It’s such a fundamental concept. Because if you are not able to own property, like look in communist China, look in communist Russia, you don’t really own anything because the government can come in at any time, day or night, and take it away from you, including your life, which is the ultimate property that you own, your life. So the profundity of the Declaration as a foundational concept It got me to the core belief. What is the center of our belief? Well, it’s that the individual has the freedom to make choice.
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Well, and with that, reap the benefits or the consequences thereof. But what happened then is this created this American idea where we have this big, broad middle class which is under attack. from a regulatory and taxation and just all kinds of different ways. But what could happen if everyday individuals had these rights and were able to pursue them? Well, what happened was this big, broad middle class where everyday people could create wealth for themselves and their families, create businesses. And that is all under attack by bigger and bigger government. We’re going to leave that as our cliffhanger on that, Jay Davidson. And all of this happens on the show because of our sponsors. I do thank First American State Bank for their sponsorship of the show. And then also regarding property. Karen Levine, REMAX Realtor, has been very active at the local, the county, the state, and the national level to protect private property rights and home ownership. So for everything real estate, residential real estate, reach out to Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And would highly recommend that you add in to your repertoire of organizations that you support. support here in 2025, the USMC Memorial Foundation. It is important that we remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And the team over at the USMC Memorial Foundation is raising the money for the remodel. And you want to be part of that. And you can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I’m talking with Jay Davidson. He is the CEO, founder of First American State Bank, which is located right here in the Denver Tech Center. And more information, you can go to FASBank.com. And I always talk about relationships. And with all my sponsors, I know each and every one of them personally and highly recommend them. And Jay Davidson and his team over there is all about relationships. So reach out to them on that. Jay Davidson, I had mentioned as we were going into break – What could happen with this American idea, this constitutional republic that has the sanctity of the individual front and center? Well, what happens is the American dream where everyday people can take risks and they can work hard and they can create this big middle class democracy. And create wealth for themselves and thrive and prosper. But that is under attack by, I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that want bigger and bigger government. And how do they accomplish that? Well, there’s a couple of ways. Taxation and inflation, Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you’re exactly right, Kim. You think about the founding of our nation. Well, think before the founding of our nation. What type of person… sailed across the Atlantic Ocean in a relatively small boat powered by sails, taking their lives in their hands. I mean, they were either desperate for freedom or desperate to get away from or something, but they were incredibly independent people, not like the people that stayed back in Europe. And we see what happens in Europe. It’s Although they use democracy, they’re still very much a socialist government system. Socialism means that the government has a lot of control over the individual. Where in America, when you landed at Jamestown, you were on your own. You went out, you found your own food, you built your own shelter, you lived your own life, and nobody was there telling you what to do. And, you know, there was laws. I mean, the commandments were certainly very important. They were all religious people. And that’s what people followed. Well, now look at look at today. We have this unbelievably massive government with all these bureaucracies, all these bureaucrats, all these regulations controlling every aspect of your life. And why? Why did we allow it to get here? Well, it wasn’t a matter of allowing. It was a matter of a certain type of individual manipulating the thought processes of people for the past two centuries that brought us to this point. Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Barack Obama, these are three of the furthest left individuals in our history. And they have brought with them a concept that government is good. When Woodrow Wilson started the federal agencies, including the Federal Reserve, back in 1913, his point was that this government entity, this government bureaucrat, is better than you are individually. And they are more capable of making decisions affecting your business and then, of course, your personal life than you are. Now, he didn’t say it that way. He painted it in really positive terms, but that was the end result of the meeting. And now we have bureaucrats telling us what to do. We have politicians taxing us to death. I was listening to your competitor, Ross, on the other radio, and he made a really good point, and I know you’ve made it too, that the top 1% of wage earners pay something like 90% of all taxes. That’s the most progressive tax code that you could possibly think of. Why is that? Why are the top 1% paying so much? Well, I think the reason is that the powers that be don’t like individuals. They don’t like people who are self-starters and self-motivators. Because those people, the owners of businesses, the entrepreneurs, the independent people, cannot be controlled. And I think the underlying theme of this whole us versus them or government versus the individual is an issue of control.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think it really is. And who do we think should be in control of our lives? I think when we get down to individuals, most people would like to be in control of their own lives. There may be those out there that want to be taken care of, but there’s no freedom in that. And if you… If you don’t have your individual rights and are living your life freely each and every day, then what is the opposite of freedom or liberty? It’s slavery. So being dependent on government and where government may take a big portion of what you earn to take care of people, that’s more like slavery. That’s not freedom, Jay.
SPEAKER 16 :
100% right. And… What the government does is legalize theft. I mean, they can tax us anything they want. Why? Well, because they assumed the authority to do so. And or the Congress and the administration have assumed the ability to tax us to death. When, in fact, they should not be doing that. They should not be allowed to do that. They should be brought up on charges and they should be kicked out of office because we can vote them out of office. And yet this is why I’m trying to make a distinction between the core of our belief, which is the Constitutional Republic and everything else that is transpiring here. Try to see the difference in the mindset between the big government individual and the actual individual himself. You and me. So I think I don’t know if I answered your question or maybe you want to direct me more there.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think and you mentioned that taxation is theft. I saw a bumper sticker this last weekend. It was in Southern California. It was on the back of a car. And I think we realize there are some core functions of government and that some taxation is necessary. Would you agree with that?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, I would. But the two questions there, how much government should happen? And then what good does the government actually do? Are we checking? Why are we spending so much money allowing the government to take so much money through taxation and then spend it on what? The Department of Education? I mean, our scores in the world have been going down steadily for decades, and yet we keep funding the Department of Education. And the teachers unions keep funding and finding ways to get more money out of our pockets. I just, this is mind-boggling to me. You know, I can talk ad infinitum about regulatory banking regulations. You know, they may be well-intentioned people, but they don’t know how to bank. But they sure as heck have a lot of control over us. I have friends in the energy world. In fact, I met Chris White, the new energy secretary, a few times. That guy’s intelligent. And he’s a capitalist. He gets it. So anyway, I’m just kind of saying why I’m positive about Trump being in place. He ain’t perfect, but my vote wasn’t a valentine. My vote was to get the government out of my face. And I hope he and Doge and Elon can do that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and we need to work on that here in Colorado as well. I mentioned I think we should do Doge Colorado, but also Doge for each of our local and county governments, school districts. These special districts are rich in… in a lot of our tax money, and we don’t even really realize what’s happening with that. So we’ve got a lot of work to do, but it’s a great time, I think, of opportunity. And to be having these discussions is really interesting. So mentioning Trump, I want to get your perspective on this, Jay Davidson. It is amazing to me, all of the people that have been going down to Mar-a-Lago and changing their tune, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, What’s your read on all this? This is pretty fascinating to watch.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, we’re seeing amazing tectonic changes. Trudeau is leaving Canada. He was the ultimate lefty. The German chancellor is leaving Germany, certainly in a total mess with immigration and ESG and DEI and so forth. There’s major changes throughout the world right now, positive changes. So what I think we individuals should do is direct our friends in politics to proper implementation of this newfound power that they have. Heaven forbid that the Republicans who are now in control start acting like the Democrats who have been in control. That’ll ruin it for everybody. And like you say in your preamble, you know, force versus freedom. There it is. And if we try to force things on people, we’re blowing it rather better that we have these kinds of conversations like you and I are having and you have with many other people out there that allows people to come to their own conclusions. And if we’re speaking the truth to people after we’ve thought very carefully about it and very honestly about it, then that will ring with them, that will resonate with them, and they will start doing their own thinking. And so the movement has to be grassroots. You know, we keep saying, well, I’ll throw a politician over the wall. Well, pull the pin before you throw him. But that’s not going to do it. I mean, I like the people that we got here in Colorado, but they’re one voice out of 435. I mean, so… Until the public starts stepping up and demanding a reduction in taxation, but first demanding a reduction in spending, we’re not going to get anywhere. But the beautiful thing of this is that the individual, you and me and everybody listening to this, can make a difference. That was the intent of our nation. Like you said earlier, freedom isn’t free. It comes with a responsibility. And that responsibility in a free society is that you get involved in politics because you’re allowing you’re electing somebody to go into Washington to change your life. So maybe spend a little bit more time communicating with these politicians and trying to tell them what you think is important and then continuing that conversation. And by the way, politicians are very willing to listen to you when they’re trying to raise money. So keep that in mind next time you get hit up for some money.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and we need to be engaged at the local, the county and the state level as well here in Colorado. And so we’re going to continue 2025 shedding light on this. We are coming into 2025 with a lot of hope. I know we have vulnerabilities and things that we need to get fixed. But having these conversations is so important. Jay Davidson, your final thought you’d like to leave with our listeners. And again, Jay Davidson is the CEO. and founder of First American State Bank.
SPEAKER 16 :
The one point I want to make is in the declaration, the inalienable right to life, liberty, and ownership property. What that means is that those rights were granted to us by our creator, not by government and not by man. Therefore, they cannot be taken away by government nor man. And I would say when you’re overtaxed and overregulated and the government spends too much of your money and puts you into debt, that they are not representing you. And so you have the God-given right to object to that. And that’s the meaning. That’s the core of our belief in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well said, Jay Davidson. We’ll talk to you next month again. And I know that you’re a big fan of Ludwig von Mises, so I chose him for our end of the show quote. He said private property creates for the individual a sphere in which he is free of the state. It sets limits to the operation of the authoritarian will. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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young like a new moon rising fierce through the rain and lightning wandering out into this great unknown and i don’t want no one to cry but tell them if i don’t survive i was born
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It’s the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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SPEAKER 13 :
If, in fact, you are working for the man, it’s a new form of slavery.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
SPEAKER 13 :
Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasure. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. We’ve got a full house in here. It’s quite a morning.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s a whole other roundtable.
SPEAKER 13 :
It is another roundtable. Trent Luce is in town. You know him, sixth generation farmer and rancher. And he’s in town for the National Western. You’re in studio. We’re going to have a special day here at Crawford Broadcasting. Great to have you here.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thanks, and it sounds like we’re off to a great start. If we’ve got a full house and we’re playing poker, we’ve got a good hand started.
SPEAKER 13 :
We have a good hand started. The other part of that hand is in studio, and that’s producer Steve, who retired, but you come back to Crawford every once in a while because you are an expert in pancakes. Oh, gee.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that was 16 months, 15 days, and 7 hours ago. Who’s counting?
SPEAKER 13 :
Does that say that you’re missing me?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I just turn on the radio if that ever comes across. But, you know, it’s the environment. I do miss the environment.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and you had a correction for Producer Joe, correct?
SPEAKER 19 :
I almost drove off the highway thanks to him. You were making reference to— Sully. Oh, you were talking about dates in history.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, right. Sullenberger.
SPEAKER 19 :
Sullenberger. Yeah, and you said, hey, there was a movie. And Joe said, yeah, I believe it was Denzel Washington. And at that point, I just about went off the highway. No, it was Tom Hanks.
SPEAKER 13 :
And the movie was Sully, right? Right, Joe?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, he wants to defend himself here. So I’m not a big movie guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
The movie was Sully, but I was actually thinking about the movie Flight. What’s that? The movie was Sully, but I was thinking about the movie Flight with Denzel Washington.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, Flight with Denzel Washington. What were you going to say, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 18 :
I said I can pick Denzel Washington out from Tom Hanks. That was my thought, too.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, but it was a great movie. It’s a great story. And, Steve, you were in the airline business, so you understand what a remarkable thing that that was. That was 2009 again. 2009.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
And those people standing on those wings out there in the middle of the Hudson. And I used to fly in and out of LaGuardia quite a bit, so I know exactly what that looks like.
SPEAKER 19 :
A business trip for the airline, and we were supposed to go in the JFK, and it was already dark. Every time we lined up for the runway, the runway lights would go out. So they’d send us around, and we did this three times before they finally said, forget it, go to LaGuardia.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, my gosh. Well, we’re going to have a great show here. Steve, you’re not sure you can stay the whole hour because you don’t.
SPEAKER 19 :
I need to get into the kitchen.
SPEAKER 13 :
He is staying?
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, he’s not leaving. Particularly proudly wearing his veteran shirt today. We’ve got to pay tribute to all veterans. Oh, please. And thank you for your service. Thank you for that. But it also affords me to think about January 10, 1962. January 10, 1962. I was in first grade. Okay, what’s that? It was the day that the United States military began Operation Ranch Hand. Oh, here’s some history coming. That’s Agent Orange. Oh. Oh, really? Nothing has impacted our men and women in the military more than Agent Orange. And the interesting thing about that bit of history is that there were 37 manufacturers of that component, that chemical, but the U.S. military used it at 50 times its recommended rate. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
So this was during the Vietnam War. Correct. And it was to get rid of the vegetation, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct, so we could see.
SPEAKER 13 :
So we could see what, you know, the enemy, if you will. And they would be very well camouflaged. The problem is, is there’s so many of our veterans that got cancer from that. In fact, Paula Sarles, who’s the president of the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation, her husband, she’s a Gold Star wife, he died from the effects of anxiety. Agent Orange. There’s so many of our Vietnam veterans out there that are affected by that.
SPEAKER 18 :
I’ve known so many. I’ve lost so many friends that were. But when the military uses it at 50 times the suggested rate, I mean, it’s like, what are you thinking?
SPEAKER 13 :
Sometimes they’re not thinking they’re they’re the government. Yeah. But Steve, you were in the Air Force. And again, I used to say thank you for my thank you for your service. But one of the veterans that I said that to said, well, you might say thank you for my freedom. So thank you for my freedom.
SPEAKER 19 :
I’m just proud to be a part of it all. I look back on it now, and I hate to quote the number of days and months and years. I hate to think of the number of years that it was since I lived that, but it opened up so many opportunities that I would have never seen.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’ve heard that. I’ve heard that. Now, gentlemen, the show comes to us because of our great sponsors. And one of those is Karen Levine. And she’s on the line now. We wanted to get a weekly. Oh, excuse me. That’s right. This is it’s Lauren Levy. Sorry about that, Lauren Levy. I got my days mixed up. Lauren Levy knows everything mortgages. And he can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. Lauren Levy, welcome.
SPEAKER 11 :
I wish I could have a higher voice.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, how about we’ll just take your voice and anything that people should know about these interest rates. Are they staying the same opportunity? What’s going on right now this week?
SPEAKER 11 :
And I was prepared when I first called to say that they stayed the same and they’re a little higher. But we just got some core producer price index stuff this morning that came up. That was a little bit. On the good side, it was basically in line, meaning inflation was in line, not higher than they were expecting. And so the 10-year note, which we always refer to, just dropped from 477 to 467 just this morning. So that’s good for rates. And that just reinforces the talk to you and I have that you never know what one day holds to the next and to be prepared and to have conversations and be on the lookout and be ready to pounce when the opportunity shows.
SPEAKER 13 :
So that’s why people should give you a call and have everything in order, be pre-qualified, all of that, because, gosh, just this morning you were expecting one thing and things changed. So people need to be ready, as you said, ready to pounce.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right. We always talk about opportunities, and I’m not sure how much rates will go down today. They’ll go down a little bit, and it may go down enough to help someone make that payment that they needed at their budget to be able to get into the home that they want. It could help someone refinance that didn’t think the opportunity would be there. So it’s definitely worth making the phone calls and seeing where things stand.
SPEAKER 13 :
And what’s the best number for people to reach you, Lorne Levy?
SPEAKER 11 :
The best way is always to call 303-880-8881.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages, 303-880-8881. And I love the fact that you can help people in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. And that’s for everything, for a new mortgage, second mortgage, and a reverse mortgage, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s correct, yep.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Well, Lorne Levy, thank you. I’m glad to hear that interest rates are down a little bit, and that could create some real opportunity. Give Lorne Levy a call at 303-880-8881, and there might be some real opportunity there. So, Lorne Levy, I think you and Karen are in next week, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. Okay. I think it’s Thursday. We’ll see you then.
SPEAKER 13 :
Sounds great. Okay. Have a great week. We’ll see you next Thursday.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. You too.
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SPEAKER 13 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I do thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. It is because of all these great sponsors that our independent voice is on the air. And I did not get through. Trent Luce, it’s so great to have you here.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
In studio.
SPEAKER 18 :
It is. I love being in studio.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And we did your television show. You do media all day long. I do. Tell us what your schedule’s like.
SPEAKER 18 :
During the National Western, when I’m in Denver, I start live on the air at 5.30 local time. And from 5.30 to 6 o’clock is live TV broadcast on Beck News called Live Across the Pond. Usually I have a guest from another country. You bumped Teresa Platt today who lives in France. And tomorrow or every Friday I have Kelly Seaton from the U.K. And I rotate people from New Zealand, France, the U.K., and Australia. And then at 6 o’clock local time I record Rural Route Radio, which is a 48-minute program. It airs as an hour. And that varies every day and airs on stations around the nation. And then by 930, I need to have across the plains produced, which airs on one station, KOTA in Rapid City, South Dakota. I do another program called Dakota Trails and Tails that airs every evening at 6.30 on K-Fire and KHND, both stations in North Dakota. And then throughout the course of the day, I also record and produce Trent on the Loose, which is another 30-minute TV program. And then there are certain days, like today, every Wednesday, I’m on with this great show and wonderful talent in Denver. Her name is Kim Monson, and I’m very blessed to be on for an hour. And then every Thursday for two hours, I’m on K-Fire live from 3 to 5 Central Time. K-Fire is the voice of the Northern Plains out of Bismarck. It broadcasts into five states and three Canadian provinces. It’s at 5.50 a.m. on the dial, just like 5.60. And then every Saturday, so that my mother can keep track of me, I produce Loose Tails Food Link. which is a 30-minute radio broadcast which airs on WTAD in Quincy, Illinois. Wowza.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s pretty amazing. And then you get all this other stuff done. You travel a lot. I saw your pickup in the parking lot. I thought, there’s a lot of miles on that pickup.
SPEAKER 18 :
There’s a lot of miles on that pickup. I can’t keep a pickup with less than 200,000 miles. I have them, and on a normal year, I would drive 8,000 miles a month.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 18 :
And my entire broadcast studio operates out of here. Radio, television, everything comes right out of there.
SPEAKER 13 :
And we’re looking at something that’s basically probably smaller than carry-on luggage, and everything is in there. It is amazing what technology does. Now, you’ve been doing this 25 years. You grew up in Illinois. You’re a sixth-generation farmer and rancher. You and Kelly now are in Nebraska.
SPEAKER 18 :
Correct. We’re in the county she grew up in.
SPEAKER 13 :
Sherman County.
SPEAKER 18 :
Sherman County, Nebraska.
SPEAKER 13 :
I grew up in Sherman County, Kansas.
SPEAKER 18 :
And we’re very fortunate. Her parents are both with us. They’re 85. They live 13 miles away. They’re 85 years old. And we wanted to… our three daughters to have daily interaction with grandparents. Oh, that’s awesome. And our parents live 500 miles apart. And so I just fell in love with Nebraska at the same time I fell in love with Kelly.
SPEAKER 13 :
So it was all good. What happened on your heart, though, doing this for 25 years? And it really has to be a partnership because when you’re traveling, you have animals, you’ve got livestock. Somebody’s got to take care of them. And so you married well, didn’t you?
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, I did marry well. I picked her. People always say you married well. I say, well, I picked her. It’s not like it was arranged. But the other thing I want to make clear is that I just gave you my daily schedule. So when I’m traveling, Kelly’s got to take care of the animals. When I’m home, Kelly’s got to take care of the animals. And I do carve out as much time every afternoon and evening as I can. And this time of year, it’s tough, you know, the short daylight hours.
SPEAKER 13 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 18 :
But we make it work, and it’s a perfect partner.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and that’s the thing about livestock is there’s no vacation. When people talk about taking a day off or a personal day off that people do in the corporate world, I guess, there’s no days off for when you have livestock.
SPEAKER 18 :
And today’s a tough day for me to think about that because, you know, it’s a special day at the national Western for me, it’s the beef and wine festival this evening. If you want to come and enjoy drinking wine, eating beef with 300 of your closest friends or people you need to know and live cattle on display at the time, while we’re having this discussion and an MC that gets a little rowdy, that’d be me. Uh, I’ve wanted Kelly to be a part of this event for the last two years. And last year we had it worked out where she was coming. Okay. And then we got hit with that bad winter storm and she couldn’t get away. Okay. And this year, you know, there were 10 years Kelly and I exhibited cattle at the National Western.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which is a commitment.
SPEAKER 18 :
It is. And so she’s got as many friends there as I do. And this is just a fantastic cattle weekend. So my plan was to have her come and then spend the weekend and get back home. But… Because of the animals that we have and we don’t hire anybody. We have a neighbor that will help out from time to time. And our three girls are off in college or in a career. And so it and I’m not whining. I’m just saying this is a typical farm and ranch family experience that when you have that commitment. that you have animals that rely on you, particularly in this time of year when waters freeze up and you have to make sure that you have not only feed, water, and shelter, but that they’re protected at all times. So that’s a commitment that every farm and ranch family has to make.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’ve always thought in that scheme that one of the hardest jobs in all of that is if you are in the dairy business because those cows have to be milked every day.
SPEAKER 18 :
Three times a day.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that’s really a It is.
SPEAKER 18 :
It is. It’s absolutely incredible, which has led to some innovation that assists with that because now there are a growing number, particularly of smaller dairies, which are not as many smaller dairies as there used to be, but they have robotic milkers. And labor is the challenge.
SPEAKER 13 :
It is the challenge. And last year when you were out here for the National Western, I attended a forum that you had emceed, which was regarding finding employees for farmers and ranchers. And it is difficult. It’s a great life, but it’s a rugged life and it’s a lot of hard work and long hours.
SPEAKER 18 :
There is no time clock. I know.
SPEAKER 13 :
I know.
SPEAKER 18 :
And one thing that we did to be more in sync with really the resources and our time commitment is that we used to start calving in February. And we started looking at that, like, why are we out here at two o’clock in the morning? Fighting coyotes, we lost two calves one night at 2 o’clock in the morning. A new calf was born, a coyote was there, and that’s the most vulnerable time. Sure. And it’s 20 below, and you’re trying to make all of that work. And so we moved our calving start date to May 1st, and from a cattle standpoint, life got good.
SPEAKER 13 :
So does that change market prices? Because it seems like I always remember now we didn’t have livestock. My family only did crops. But it always seemed like the kids that had cattle, it seemed like they were always calving in the middle of a blizzard.
SPEAKER 18 :
Correct. That is a very interesting story and how tradition still plays a role in agriculture. If you would ask those families why they are calving in the middle of winter instead of waiting until May 1, like we do now, they’ll say, well, that’s what we’ve always done. Originally. It started because the cattlemen—well, let me back up. We weren’t cattlemen. Back in the day, the farm had some beef cows, maybe a dairy cow or two, some chickens, and then you had row crops, and you were diverse. And until about 1985, when I really started getting going, everybody had a little bit of everything. And so then we started specializing. And so you’re either a cattleman or a row crop producer, you’re a pork producer, you’re a chicken contractor, whatever the case may be. So the reason that those calves were born back in the day in February when it was cold is because they wanted to get the cows done calving before planting season.
SPEAKER 17 :
That would make sense.
SPEAKER 18 :
So when planting season came, you’re getting in the field because your window in planting season is this close, right? You’ve got a little tight window. We don’t do that anymore. And yet we still calve in February. And my father-in-law, he always wanted to calve in February. And part of that is, there’s another part of that, is that we sell cattle by the pound. And you typically sell calves from October to January, depending on what sector you’re in. And I’d love to explain those differences at some point in time. But the calves that are born in February just inherently are going to weigh more when you sell them in November. So you get a bigger check.
SPEAKER 13 :
Sure. Okay.
SPEAKER 18 :
So all of those factors kind of weigh in. But that whole cattle calving and timing and everything is moving to more what is in sync with the resources that are available. Because the big challenge in a February calving, aside from dealing with the weather, is that you’re not grazing anymore. If you’re calving in February or March, you’re also feeding those cows. And so coming into lactation at a time when you’re feeding a resource and their need for a higher level of nutrition is all spiking at the same time, where we’re calving on green grass and the cows are actually already grazing. and so that makes sense but our calves we sold some calves first part of december they weighed 504 pounds people’s calves that are born in february weighed 700 pounds so you get a bigger check but it isn’t about how big your check is it’s about how much for your expenses versus what you’re getting paid oh that’s an important point as well because yeah if you’re having to feed feed during that time that makes a lot of sense
SPEAKER 13 :
All this is connected, though. We’re in the urban area, and people have taken for granted affordable and abundant energy, not energy, food.
SPEAKER 18 :
Energy and food.
SPEAKER 13 :
Food, but food at the grocery store. And that is so under attack. The cattleman, the cowboy is under attack. And beef is such a great… protein source and we and that’ll be a great segue into Lavaca Meat Company maybe we’ll just do that right now because Lavaca Meat Company is located at the corner of Maine and Nevada in Littleton and it is a premium product and really it is that steakhouse experience at home and so for a real treat check out Lavaca Meat Company.
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SPEAKER 13 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. I so greatly appreciate them. They have been with us Trent Luce, I’m just starting my seventh year of solo broadcasting, and the Harris family has been with me since close to day one of that, I think. Seven years.
SPEAKER 18 :
Seven years is incredible. Now you’re just ready to hit 14.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, hit 14.
SPEAKER 18 :
Turn seven into 14, then 21.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. Hey, we were talking about Sherman County. You live in Sherman County, Nebraska. I grew up in Sherman County, Kansas. And Joe, he said we have three Shermans. His last name, producer Joe’s last name is Sherman, producer Joe. Yes, ma’am. So three Shermans today.
SPEAKER 18 :
There’s a lucky charm coming in that. We started with a full house, and now we got a lucky hand. Three Shermans. Good omens, good omens.
SPEAKER 13 :
Good omens, for sure. A couple of things coming in on the text line because we had producer Steve in here because I don’t think we explained. He comes in typically once a quarter. He is one of the best pancake makers around. And so just kind of a camaraderie. He comes in and he grills pancakes. The whole team, everybody in the studio from all the stations are here. And it is, it’s really a great time. And you…
SPEAKER 18 :
And Trent even came from Nebraska for these pancakes, which I’ve been hearing about.
SPEAKER 13 :
Exactly. And so Steve was in studio for the first segment, but he’s now at the griddle.
SPEAKER 17 :
Frying up some sausage, too. Some loose sausage. Loose pork sausage.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yum. Okay, so it’s good. And I like this. It’s a great time to just get together with everyone. So that is great. So this was from a listener. What a lucky day. Trent Luce and Steve both in the studio together. Two of my favorites. Life couldn’t be better. A nice treat, Kim.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, anytime I can shake the hand of a veteran and say thank you and remind them that I’m not just giving lip service, I’m executing the rights they protected for me, I’m happy to do so.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And Steve is an Air Force veteran. And also this came in on the line. Why can’t ranchers, this is a question for you, why can’t ranchers sell cattle all year round?
SPEAKER 18 :
So ranchers can actually sell cattle year-round, but about 80% of the calf crop in the United States each year is born in the springtime. because that’s what matches the resources. We come back to when is that cow’s highest level of nutrition needed? It’s during that lactation time, particularly the early lactation time. So if you’re going to match the resources, you have your spring flurry of grass, whatever your forage may be. So then you have those calves, and you can literally sell those calves at any point in time. For the most part, you’ve bred the cow. Nine months later, the cow is having a calf. Seven months later, you’ve got a calf here and you have two choices to make. Do I sell that calf now or do I keep it for another year? until it actually turns into beef and goes into your store. Most people, from a cash flow standpoint, it’s a really tough investment to wait two years to get your payment.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
So you’re selling calves maybe right off of the cow. Maybe you wean them and background them for a period of time and sell them in January, February. Traditionally, we always have a spike in calf prices after the first of the year. We’re spiking every month right now. What’s going on in the cattle world is vastly interesting, somewhat concerning, but cattlemen are finally getting paid properly. But keep in mind, it’s not like a bushel of corn that you put in a bin and then you decide when you’re going to sell it. You can then go pull it out. That calf is being fed every single day, and every single day is gaining between two and four pounds a day, depending on how much energy and protein you’re putting in that calf. So… You can sell them, but they’re going to be at a different weight. So it’s a matter of optimizing the right market target and, quite frankly, whether we want to admit it or not, when the banker is saying you’ve got a note due, when are you going to sell these calves to pay off this note?
SPEAKER 13 :
So, and it’s a really, it’s a cash-intensive business. It takes a lot in that particular business, yes?
SPEAKER 18 :
You tie up a lot of money. And there are three segments within the cattle business. You have what we call the cow-calf man, which I’ve been explaining and walking you through. And then there’s also the backgrounder. So there are people who buy cattle from the cow-calf producer, and these would typically be 600 pounds is a good weight. That’s the calf. That’s how old they are when they’re weaned from their mother. And so the backgrounder will buy these calves, maybe have forages that they have stockpiled or maybe have a hay supply. They’ll keep them until… Typically 900 pounds, and then at 900 pounds, they’ll go into a feedlot, or they could possibly be grass-finished. There’s two options there. But there’s three, and then you have the feedlot sector. So in the cattle business, you literally have always had three sectors, the cow-calf, the backgrounder, and the feed yard. And obviously we know that Colorado is one of the leading states in the nation for feedlot because we’ve just had the resources to make that happen. And the infrastructure of the packing business, particularly north of us in Greeley and Weld County, is such a powerful agricultural county, particularly in the beef world.
SPEAKER 13 :
Isn’t it crazy here in Colorado, we talk about it regularly, that this industry is really under regulatory and legislative attack here in Colorado. And yet this is a resource that the agricultural sector has been a real economic threat. factor in colorado but yet this governor and this legislature which is they’re all radical activists extremists this is not the democrat party of jfk or your grandpa and your grandma this here in colorado is radical extremists that are controlling it and they they they want to put the agricultural sector out of business as well as the energy sector it’s crazy
SPEAKER 18 :
So you mentioned that this is my 25th year in broadcasting. And when I started talking, I would talk about the dangers of regulating, over-regulating agriculture. And I had a few people say to me, you know, farmers always complain about regulations and they figure out a way to make it happen. And that’s pretty much true. But there’s a law of diminishing returns in that. The casualty of that, Kim, is the number of people that are involved in agriculture. Because what has happened is it has forced the economies of scale so that you have more, I’m going to say, Monforts of the type and what has been taking place with the feed yard sector in Greeley. And you have fewer farmer feeders. And that extends to every segment, whether it be wine producers, whether it be cotton producers. Because of those regulations, there are some that just can’t continue to compete. They get out. They’re consumed by the larger ones because they’re bigger. working for less profit over a larger period of time. So all of those regulations push us to where we eliminate people in the business. And the less we have in terms of diversity in the number of people who are producing food, the greater control the government has on how people have access to that food, which is why I, from day one, have been promoting know who’s producing your food and buy it direct from that producer if it’s possible. Because direct food sales in our pork business, I mentioned the loose sausage, we sell every pound we raise directly to a consumer. And we’re doing more and more of that in the beef business as well.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and to this point, we talk about this on a regular basis, is big government and big business really like each other. Yesterday, we were doing our book report, if you will, with Producer Luke and Producer Joe. They’re both 26. And we’re going through Henry Hazlitt’s book, Economics in One Lesson. We’re talking about profits and inflation but on profits many young people profits has been demonized they’ve been taught that it’s because of greed that people agree yeah corporate greed and producer Luke had done some research in Haslett’s book he had talked about as far as I think it was GDP that typically corporate profits were around five or six percent historically and But from 2020 to 2024, it was between 16% and 17% corporate profits of GDP. And I think the point then that I wanted to make is what happened during that time? Well, the big pharma got in bed with the government and forced people to have to use their product or try to coerce them to take the product. And then also the government bought their product. Well, that’s where big government and big business got in bed with each other. And they like to do that because they can squash the competition of the smaller innovator.
SPEAKER 18 :
What was the very first thing you brought up this morning on Across the Pond?
SPEAKER 13 :
Property rights?
SPEAKER 18 :
No, that was one of the last things we talked about. Entrepreneurialism.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 18 :
And everything you just described stymies the entrepreneur. so that the established can remain the market hold and keep the footprint of what’s going on in the food business. I can speak to the food business, and I know that every business, just look at the consolidation in the banking sector. Kim, you know as well as anybody the consolidation in the radio business. How many people are literally in the and that’s why Crawford Broadcasting is something that people need to recognize and understand. This is not one of the large entity. And I’m on every station, every kind of structure. But when you it’s who you’re listening to and who you do business with is what determines who’s going to be in the marketplace. And suddenly the aroma in this building is changing and I’m getting hungry.
SPEAKER 13 :
I can smell it as well. What the heck is happening? I can smell that loose sausage that’s being cooked up. So let’s go over here. How are we doing on time? Regarding Colorado and this cage-free chickens, we’ve talked about it on a regular basis, and I need to go back and re-look at this. But when I’d written my… essay on this back in 2023 we just republished it regarding Colorado’s what I can’t remember now what did I call it it was um Darn it. Colorado scrambled egg policy. And eggs have gone from $2.99 a dozen to $8.99 a dozen from the producer that I purchased them from. Correct. And as I was relooking at this, though, I think that House Bill 20, 1343, they passed it back in 2020, and then they stair-stepped it in. We are seeing the effects of that. But I think that it was only effective, this law was effective, not for the small producer or the large producer. It was that mid-level producer.
SPEAKER 18 :
It’s anybody with more than 3,000 chickens. 3,000 chickens or more.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, I’ve got to re-look at that.
SPEAKER 18 :
So if you have 2,900 chickens, you’re not under the purview of the law.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, I’ve got to reach, somehow I’ve got to reach, I need to re-read that because…
SPEAKER 18 :
But you literally only have four producers in the state. Four individual entities producing eggs in the state of Colorado.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 18 :
They have millions of chickens and produce the eggs that are needed and do a great job doing that. But part of the structure, and I didn’t get the detail. I’ve been looking for Bill Scabby at the National Western. I’ll find him today. But as I drive on Interstate 76 at Wiggins, there’s some chicken barns there. I can see them from the interstate that are obviously in the middle of a remodel because that’s the untold story. The billions, billions would be that the egg layer is forced to spend to retrofit these buildings into being cage free is going to be paid by the consumer. The chicken farmer, the egg layer, is spending billions of dollars to comply with this regulation. And again, it comes back to what we were talking about earlier. It will force people out because they cannot afford to make the retrofitting their barns and spend the money to do it. Consequently, somebody will buy them out and you’ll have more consolidation.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I think then let’s – this just moves us over before we get to break here to this headline from – this was Fox News, I think it was. Newsom suspends California environmental law to eliminate roadblocks for wildfire victims rebuilding homes. Well, that means those roadblocks have been there for everybody else up until this time, right?
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. And what about the roadblock and the fire engines and firefighting equipment that was sent to the Ukraine from California in the past year? Yeah. What about the 100 fire trucks that were sent from Oregon to help in Los Angeles and Newsom stopped them and put them on hold to do an emissions test on them before they come in?
SPEAKER 13 :
Meanwhile, just think of all the emissions that’s occurring from these fires of everything going up. And Lauren Fitch yesterday said there’s a lot of electric vehicles in those fires, and those are made of plastic. Just think about what that’s putting up into the air.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, absolutely. Fire is one of the main contributors to emissions. But we’ve got to go beyond just what are the emissions. Emissions are all what we call greenhouse gases. And we put plants in greenhouses to protect them so that they grow better. Every single one of these emissions that we’ve been convinced is a pollutant is actually plant food. We’ve got to turn the narrative and explain what are these gases that are in the atmosphere that increase. We can’t live without them.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that’s why A Climate Conversation would be a good documentary for people to watch. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 18 :
It always is.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and that’s at AClimateConversation.com. It is the project of Walt Johnson, so be sure and check that out at AClimateConversation.com. And then I did want to mention the Center for American Values. It is located in Pueblo, Colorado, and it’s really a special place at Trent Luce. It’s co-founded by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient, and Brad Padula. Emmy Award-winning documentary maker, and they honor our Medal of Honor recipients, educational programs. On the 23rd, they are going to have an On Values presentation regarding the USS Pueblo, which during the Vietnam War was captured by the North Koreans and held for a year. And Bob Chica, who was one of those prisoners, will be speaking. And you can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. Just let them know that you’re You’re going to attend. It doesn’t cost anything, but they want to make sure they have chairs and they normally have a little reception afterwards. But they do pretty important work down there at the Center for American Values.
SPEAKER 18 :
I keep hearing about that, and I’ve not been there yet. I’ve got to fix that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, we’re going to have to fix that. Maybe their next On Values presentation we can meet down there.
SPEAKER 18 :
I’m in.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Text line is 720-605-0647. And call in is 303-477-5600. A couple of things here coming in on the text line. Thank you, Kim and Trent. I am also an Air Force vet. When I am thanked for my service, I always request that they always vote for candidates who support constitutional freedoms. That’s Dave. I love that.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s awesome.
SPEAKER 13 :
That is awesome. Another listener, when we were talking about the percentage of profits of GDP, Mark says GDP is not a good measure. Good point. And then please ask Trent how the land use meeting went in Akron last week.
SPEAKER 18 :
The land use meeting was fantastic. What Washington County folks through Sacred Horizons are doing is exactly what needs to be taking place in every county all across this nation. 3,144 of them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And we’re talking about property rights, which is inherent in the American idea. We talked about that. Now, we were on, let’s see, across the pond at 530.
SPEAKER 18 :
We’re trying to keep track of what we talked about where we can.
SPEAKER 13 :
Where we talked about that. Yeah, definitely for sure. Let’s go ahead and get over here to Gammy. Gammy, I know you are pretty jazzed that Trent is in studio today, right? Yes.
SPEAKER 02 :
OMG, yes, I am. And you know what? I’m so proud of you and Steve. Hello, Steve. I know I gave him a fit the first time I ever called. But I want to not just thank you. I want to tell you something. I just turned 75, right? So that’s like three-quarters of a century. And the people who have inspired me every day, two of them I’m talking to right now, let me tell you something. I’m not just coming back bigger and better this year. I’m going to be 100 times more fiercer than I was last year because our people… are dying. Older people are not getting enough protein because they can’t afford to buy meat. They can’t afford to get the eggs. And I noticed that our legislators here in Colorado, Ken DeGraff in specific, does energy. And you got to get him on before you leave, Trent. And then we had a mock hearing last night. And what we did was read bills and responses And what we know, and you say it every day, Kim, you say it every day, Trent, all over the country, locally, we the people have to not just band together, We have to stand together and say, you’re mutilating our children. There’s no law in the land that allows it. You are mutilating our lives, our food. I am so outraged that I could just stand on a building and scream. But instead, we’re going to show up in force and sue and fight for America or we’re dead. So we have to fight.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I do think that we are in the third founding of our country, Gammy. And this is a big battle of ideas. And that’s why what Trent is doing is so important. That’s why what we’re doing is important as well. So, Gammy, thank you. I know you’re jazzed that Trent is in Colorado right now. And she’s a big fan of yours, Trent.
SPEAKER 18 :
And I want to take something she said and just blow it up bigger. Somehow we’ve been convinced that the older you get, the less protein you’re requiring nutritionally. And all of the data, there’s some great data out of the University of Arizona that shows the highest nutritional need in the growth of human beings for protein is for the infant and for the elderly. And we have conditioned the older in our population to consume less protein as we age. In fact, that accelerates aging. You want to stay young forever? You can’t stay young forever. It doesn’t happen. Right. But if you want to stay younger at heart and with physical abilities, increase animal protein, period.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. I’m sorry, Joe, you said we have. OK, and so the caller’s on the line. Is that right? Okay, you’re going to ask it. Okay, got it.
SPEAKER 07 :
We’re ready. So, Trent, the caller asked, if you were to become the Secretary of Agriculture, what would be your top three main objectives?
SPEAKER 18 :
It would probably be, one, dismantle the United States Department of Agriculture. It becomes an impediment, not part of the solution. We have 112,000 people working for the United States Department of Agriculture, and we only have 200,000 farm families that produce 80% of the food in this country. We have nearly one employee of the USDA for every farm family producing food. If you can’t see that’s a problem, you’re not paying attention.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, number two and three.
SPEAKER 18 :
Number one carried over to number two and three.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and what I would do is eliminate the USDA from Washington, D.C., period. It needs to be in the center part of the country and not be in that swamp.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the farming and ranching is probably one of the most regulated businesses, depend on the federal government. The federal government has its hands in everything regarding farming.
SPEAKER 18 :
I shared this story, I think, with you two weeks ago, but I want to walk through it again just as quickly as I can. The United States Department of Agriculture right now is putting farmers in a program if they’re willing to plow their fields. The reason they want to plow their fields is that that will destroy the organic matter and the amount of carbon that’s in that soil. And so then once you go into the program and you have your carbon level at zero – They’re then going to show how being a part of the program improved your carbon intensity and how much carbon you retained in the soil. Because to start the program, you had to destroy what you had done for the last 30 years. It’s unbelievable. That is a destruction of our natural resource coming right out of the United States Department of Agriculture. And the current Secretary of Agriculture, Tom Vilesak, is a horrible human being. I’ve known him since he was governor of Iowa. He’s hung up on me two times, walked away because I try to hold him accountable to the lies he tells people about agriculture. And he’s been the second longest serving USDA secretary of agriculture behind somebody who was 20 years in 1900. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Quick question. We are just about out of time. Trent, do you see a way for us to reclaim small and mid-sized businesses and pull that control away from large government corporate control?
SPEAKER 18 :
I absolutely do, and it comes back to what we said earlier. The consumer and where you spend your food dollar totally depends who’s in the marketplace. If you continue to run to the super center on the edge of town, which relies on imported products instead of products produced in Colorado or California, produce in your county or even in this nation look we are the largest beef exporter in the world we’re the largest importer of beef in the world and you have beef production in colorado we do not need to have anybody importing from another country but it’s all dependent upon where you spend your consuming dollar you are in charge of this the government’s not in charge they try to convince you that they’re just out here working for you if you just spend your dollar with the people that you know and trust you’ll determine who’s going to be the players
SPEAKER 13 :
So it all comes back to this whole local thing. I know people are excited about Donald Trump taking office and Doge trying to trim government. But what I think is going to happen, Trent, is that there’s going to be a double down by the radical activist agenda at the local, the county, and the state level. And you talk about local all the time. We’ve got about a minute left. It’s great having you here. And we might do this again next week or something like it, right?
SPEAKER 18 :
We might. We absolutely might. I have zero faith in anybody in Washington, D.C., fixing what’s going on in this country. It is 100 percent upon each one of us in our local area, whether that be a township, whether that be a county, a town, whatever the case may be. I referenced it. I can’t tell you how excited I am about what’s been accomplished in Washington County, Colorado. And that is a prototype on what we do going forward. Engage locally, demand infrastructure and entrepreneurialism. I’m stealing your word for the day. In your county.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And also I want to give a shout out to Josh Lowenstein, who’s the founder of Our American Lands down in Monta Vista. And then Sean Pond regarding Stop the Dolores Monument. Those guys are doing great stuff on that third of the state as well. Trent, great to have you here.
SPEAKER 18 :
See you tonight at the Beef and Wine Festival. Tickets are still available if you want to join us.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And that is out at the National Western. So looking forward to that. Our quote for the end of the show is Ludwig von Mises saying, and he said this, Private property creates for the individual a sphere in which he is free of the state. It sets limits to the operative of the authoritarian will. So my friends today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. We will talk to you tomorrow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Through the mountains climbing, twisting, turning further from my home. Young like a new moon rising, fierce through the rain and lightning, wandering out into this great unknown. And I don’t want no one to cry, but tell them if I don’t survive, I was born.
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