Join Kim Monson in this captivating episode where freedom, rights, and governance intersect. We begin with a critical examination of individual liberties, where rights do not translate into ‘special rights.’ This notion sets the stage for discussing the vital role of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers in protecting residents against excessive taxation and legislative overreach, offering listeners tools to make informed decisions. The episode takes a dynamic turn with current affair highlights—from Los Angeles’ contentious minimum wage laws affecting hotel owners to the innovative strides made by tech executives entering the U.S. Army Reserve without undergoing traditional training. Kim
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We are an independent voice on an independent station. And we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. And force obviously can be a weapon. But it can be policy, unpredictable in excess of taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum’s agenda and the globalist elite’s agenda, that that’s playing out through the United Nations, this Colorado state legislature, this Colorado governor. And today I’m going to head out to Elbert County for the county commissioner meeting regarding Xcel Energy and their big land grabs. Imminent Domain, all that is another way to take people’s stuff. So stay tuned. I’ll let you know what happens with that. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday on all KLZ platforms. That’s KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. the KLZ website and the KLZ app. And I want to say thank you to my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayer Board members. We are working on our ratings report, which will be coming out. It’s a lot of work, so it’s going to take a little bit of time. But this is an all-volunteer group that is watching out for the taxpayer. Who’s the taxpayer? Everybody. If you buy anything in Colorado… And pay sales tax, you’re a taxpayer. So we watch out for all of you. We’re all volunteers, and I want to say thank you to them. Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. When you see these folks out there, say thank you and join us at coloradotaxpayer.org. It’s $25 a year, which works out to about $2.08 a month. And it is a great tool to have in your toolbox. During the legislature, when the legislature’s meeting, we send out a weekly email on the different bills that we’ve taken positions on. Out of the 733 bills or resolutions that were introduced this last legislative session, we took positions on 261 of those. And we look at these, really our criteria is how does it affect the taxpayer? Is it an assault upon TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights? What about property rights? What about school choice, parental rights? So that’s a great tool to have in your toolbox. This ratings report is also a great tool to have in your toolbox because you’ll be able to see the ratings of all of the different legislators. They may say one thing and they may do another thing. And so that’s a really important to know about that. So the guys, Producer Joe and Producer Luke, will be our featured guests in hour number two as we’re doing our book report or book review of The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. And the word dominion was used in the chapter that we are going to review. So I thought, well, that would be a good word of the day. Dominion. It’s D-O-M-I-N-I-O-N. Dominion. Number one, it could be control or the exercise of control sovereignty. Number two, a territory or sphere of influence or control a realm. Number three, a self-governing nation under the nominal rule of the British monarch. And your challenge is to use the word dominion correctly. In a sentence today, and I was thinking about that voting system, how that related to this particular definition. But God has, let’s say this, the creator, God has dominion over all that is happening here. Even though we look at the headlines and there’s things that concern us significantly, we have to rest assured that God’s in control. He has dominion over all of this. The quote of the day, I went to C.S. Lewis, and I was trying to find this quote, and I couldn’t. Maybe it’s in one of the books that I’d read. But basically, it was a quote because he lived through the bombing of London and of Britain during World War II. And he said that people continued to live their lives, though. They continued to get together with friends and marry and have celebrations and have children together. And we’re in a time right now with a lot is in flux with taking out these nuclear facilities in Iran. And then yesterday, Iran lobbed some missiles at some of our U.S. bases. Then Trump announces that Israel and Iran have come to a ceasefire. And then I was talking to a good friend of mine saying that, gosh, there could be targets in the U.S. with these sleeper cells that came over Iran. the border, during the Biden-Harris administrations. There’s a lot in flux, but we have to remember that God, Christ, has dominion over all of this. So I was looking for C.S. Lewis quotes, and C.S. Lewis was born in 1898. He died in 1963. He was a British writer, a literary scholar, and Anglican lay theologian. He held academic positions in English literature at both Magdalene College, Oxford, and Magdalene College in Cambridge. He’s best known as the author of The Chronicles of Narnia, but he is also noted for his other works of fiction, such as The Screwtape Letters and The Space Trilogy, and for his nonfiction Christian apologetics, including Mere Christianity, Miracles, and The Problem of Pain. And he said this, he said, the moment you are disillusioned with the world is the moment you are starting to build a new one. And that is C.S. Lewis. Okay, some of the other headlines. This is… Denver in Los Angeles is a mess. That’s all I can say. It’s just a mess. And it’s because of public policy. But Denver is a mess, too. And it’s because of public policy, because this mayor and this governor and many of those in elected positions and the bureaucrats, they all want to be California. But this is from the Wall Street Journal. It says a $30 minimum wage has L.A. hotel owners in revolt. Whenever you have a forced minimum wage, it basically makes people, and it’s an unemployment piece of ordinance or legislation. It says hotel owners are open revolt against L.A.’ ‘s new $30 an hour minimum wage, the latest blow to one of the country’s poorest performing lodging markets. This was supposed to be a great time to own a hotel in L.A. The area will soon be at the center of the globe’s premier sporting events. First is the host city for the eight World Cup soccer games next year, and then the Super Bowl the following year. In 2028, L.A. hosts the Summer Olympics. But a pullback in foreign visitors and other issues have caused the LA hotel business to stumble again this year. Now hotel owners have to contend with what local union leaders say will be the highest minimum wage in the country. The city council voted last month To boost the wage for workers in hotels with 60 rooms or more, hourly pay currently 2032 will increase every year until it reaches $30 in 2028. And the industry is mounting an effort to roll all of that back. Let’s see, the next thing, I talked with a colleague of mine yesterday because I was very concerned about this, and I don’t quite know what to make of this yet. This is from Benzinga, and it is that Palantir and Meta, OpenAI, and Thinking Machines just had their executives sworn into the U.S. Army Reserve. And I don’t quite know what to think about this because I’m so concerned about the surveillance on U.S. citizens. And I really, really want to work on figuring out a way that we own our data instead of big tech. But it goes on to say four top tech, and again, this is from Benzinga, four top tech executives have joined the U.S. Army Reserve as lieutenant colonels, skipping basic training and stepping directly into roles aimed at helping modernize the military. It says the initiative is part of a broader push by the Army to bring in private sector innovation and reshape how the service approaches technology, talent, and modernization. That word modernization is one kind of like sustainability. We have to be a little careful with that particular word. And it says the executives from Palantir, Chief Technology Officer Shikim Sankar, Meta, CTO Andrew Bosworth, OpenAI Chief Product Officer Kevin Wheel, and Advisor of Thinking Machines Lab and former AI Chief Research Officer Bob McGrew will serve in this new unit, called Detachment 201, also known as the Army’s Executive Innovation Corps. So I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of that. Not quite sure what to make of it, but we will continue to watch that. Lastly, let’s see, I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show because it’s all of your support, all of our great sponsors that we are on the air and we really appreciate that. 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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we talked with Jody Henze yesterday with Mint Financial Strategies. But are you ready for your own financial freedom? As an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for a meaningful relationship, information sharing. a network of smart strategies, and a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie cutter plans. Everything is tailored to you. So call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That’s 303-285-3080. And before we get to Kevin Lundberg, our featured guest today, I did want to give credit on these headlines that I mentioned on the Antarctic ice growth has left glaciologists perplexed. That’s from Climate Compass, as well as Climate Compass is how the sun might be more responsible for global warming than we admit. And then Animal Planet published this piece as climate change overestimated. New data reveals oceans are cooling the planet faster than expected. And this whole climate change narrative has been used as the cudgel, the short stick in trying to control every aspect of our lives. our lives. It’s our water and our property and our freedom of mobility and our housing and our energy, all of these things. And when there’s freedom in those arenas, we’re unleashing creativity and innovation to solve the challenges that we have, then everyday people will thrive and prosper. So this whole climate narrative has been used to, I think, reduce and prevent people, everyday people, from thriving and prospering. That’s why A Climate Conversation is such an important film. You can find it at climateconversation.com. On the line with me is former state senator and author of The Lumberg Report, Kevin Lumberg. Welcome to the show. Thank you.
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Well, thank you, Kim. It’s always great being with you.
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Good to have you.
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And I look forward to the next while.
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Yes. And the Lundberg Report, I mentioned the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and is really a great tool to have in your toolbox. And then Sue Moore and her group over at Liberty Scorecard, I’d recommend that people watch them. And then the trifecta on this is the Lundberg Report, which you publish every Saturday.
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Yeah, and work on it about every day of the week, too, because it’s a collection of, during the legislative session, my main focus is what are the bills and where are they at and what are the good ones, what are the bad ones. But year-round, there are a lot of things going on. So I’m just trying to pick out all the things that I think are important and then deliver a very tight little package of three or four points, maybe two or three if they’re big enough ones. that you can consider as it affects Colorado citizens.
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Well, and there’s a lot going on out there. I thought one of these things that it was last week that you had highlighted was very interesting regarding Gavin Newsom and the comparisons and similarities to George Wallace over 60 years ago. And so walk us through that just a little bit.
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Well, of course, Newsom was trying to tell the president that the commander-in-chief cannot have any command over the National Guard in California to control the riots that were, you know, there were protests that were developing into full-scale riots. I mean, when you’re taking cars and lighting them on fire and… um you know people are getting injured and things that that’s that’s just completely unwarranted and newsom was uh and the mayor of of uh l.a where they were kind of dragging their feet kind of reminded me of what what the jared polis did back in 2020 when uh you know some I’ll just call them hooligans, took over the campus on the state capitol. And he said, oh, just let them do what they do. And so they destroyed the capitol for several weeks. You know, created millions of dollars worth of damage to a very important monument called the Colorado State Capitol. Well, anyway, Newsom is not… taking adequate action to control these issues. Neither is L.A. And so the president very appropriately nationalized at least enough of the National Guard troops in California to get out there and preserve the peace. And as I watch this unfold, I thought to myself, I’ve seen this happen before. I’m old enough, unfortunately, to remember when Governor George Wallace in Alabama refused to allow desegregation. And so the president, which was John F. Kennedy at the time, called out the National Guard in Alabama. And you see, normally… The governor is in charge of the National Guard in their state, and that way the governor, as far as a chain of command, for all of our military, we have a very unique circumstance where the ultimate commander is not a military leader. It’s the executive of that state for the National Guard and the president of the United States for all of the U.S. military. And the National Guard is actually an arm of the U.S. military. It’s that unique structure where the governor has local control of the troops. And I saw this while I was in the legislature on the State Affairs Committee, which is technically the State Military and Veteran Affairs Committee. And then when I was on the Joint Budget Committee, The Colorado National Guard is funded by the U.S. government. Very, very little state funding goes in, and that’s because ultimately they are in charge. Well, anyway, so we see this thing with Newsom, and he’s crying, oh, the governor, the president can’t do that without my permission, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, that’s exactly what George Wallace said back in the 60s. it was to frustrate what the president knew needed to be done to keep the peace. And I thought to myself, we need to show this comparison. And others picked up on it as well. But to me, it was just so obvious. And it kind of shows the duplicity of political rhetoric, shall we say, because The media didn’t want to go there and say, well, he’s just like George Wallace in that he insists he’s in charge when the president asserts his valid authority. And the courts upheld that, too. I mean, it was kind of obvious to anybody who pays attention to this. So anyway, I wanted people to understand that we’ve seen this playbook before, and now George Wallace is held in really contempt. for his actions back then. At the time, he had his supporters, but not too many. And I think the same is going to hold with Gavin Newsom, as people look at it and say, he was just playing political games, trying to protect his turf and protect his politics. And Trump very appropriately kept the peace. Oh, and what happened out of it? Well, L.A. riots stopped. And it’s not that there was a heavy-handed control. No, the troops were simply used to protect the population, not by any martial law or anything like that, because that’s what they were kind of hinting at. No, it’s just that it’s kind of like what National Guard troops are used for here in Colorado when there was a big tornado. That decimated the town of Windsor, and I represented that area, so I ran right up there. Well, pretty quickly, the guard was up there to ensure that everything was done properly and held in order, and that’s what happened here, too.
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Yeah, and you had referenced a video by Vivek Ramaswamy, and I thought these three points in it were important. It said George Wallace fought against federal desegregation. Gavin Newsom now fights against federal deportations. George Wallace wanted segregated cities. Gavin Newsom now wants sanctuary cities. George Wallace blocks school doors, and Gavin Newsom blocks ICE vans. What a comparison. Well done on that. Yeah.
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Yeah, you know, as I say, it’s just obvious you just have to be old enough to remember both sides. Or a good historian, maybe I should claim that.
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Claim that, yeah. You had to be just a little kid. That’s during the George Wallace thing. We’re going to continue the discussion with some other things with Kevin Lundberg. We do all of this because of our sponsors and very grateful for Karen Levine. She was in yesterday. For everything residential real estate, you want her on your side of the table.
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kim would love to talk with you again that’s kim kimmonson.com and welcome back to the kim monson show be sure and check out our website that is kimmonsonmonson.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we’re an independent voice on an independent station Searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado. Pueblo is noted as the home of heroes. because there were four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. Drew Dix, one of those Medal of Honor recipients, is a co-founder of the center. And they focus on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And their Portraits of Valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients is a very reverent place. And it’s a great thing to take your kids, your grandkids there, and just talk about what it means, what these men did. And what they did is when the situation presented itself, They put their lives on the line to save the lives of others and protect them. And it’s very important. So check it out. The website is AmericanValueCenter.org for more information. Again, located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. On the line with me is former state senator. and author of the Lumberg Report, Kevin Lumberg. Kevin, I really recommend that people check out the Lumberg Report every Saturday when it comes out. This is from the Christian Post, and this is regarding the Supreme Court decision which upholds a Tennessee law banning sex change surgeries and puberty blockers for kids. And you are really all over this issue because you are one of the top people at protect kids colorado which will have some ballot questions or it’s petition gathering to get some questions on the ballot in 2026 so what’s your thoughts about this this supreme court decision and then here in colorado i’ve seen headlines that those in colorado say that they’re going to continue these surgeries and and pharmaceuticals on kids
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Oh, yeah. It’s really dramatic what occurred with the court and what’s happening here in Colorado because the leaders of the state, like our attorney general and our governor, they are very supportive of allowing all this trans ideology to come down hard and fast on the people of Colorado. In Tennessee, here’s what they did. And this is actually most states, just barely, but I think it’s like 27 states already have addressed the trans ideology in one way or another to say, no, we’re not doing that. And the biggest, probably the most obvious bizarre thing form is where they allow surgeries on children to change their physical bodies to be, you know, I’m trying to be gentle, this is a family program here, for a boy to look, act, and physically appear to be a girl, and for a girl to be a boy, which is impossible But it’s just surgical destruction of these children’s bodies. And we’re talking about children here. You know, I saw a picture once, a meme, and it was a little kid dressed up like a pirate. And the little kid said something like, I told everybody I was a pilot, so they dug out my eye and chopped my leg off so I could have an eye patch and a peg leg. you know, and it’s that absurd, but it’s actually being practiced. And here in Colorado, it’s being encouraged.
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Well, I found it interesting that the Supreme Court ruling was 6-3. That means that there were three justices that support this mutilation of our children. This is pretty scary.
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Yeah, because remember, What happened is Tennessee passed a law like, as they say, a majority of states have passed. I’m not going to say they’re all identical, but very similar in these ideas. And in Tennessee, the law was that you can’t do this to children. Now, they addressed both chemical and surgical issues. means, chemical meaning, feed kids hormones that their bodies are not producing to try to stunt their development as a boy or a girl, prevent the process of physical adolescence. And what this does is, for a woman, it causes their voice to lower, and it causes their muscles to grow in different ways. And for a boy, if you feed them estrogen, essentially that’s what they’re doing, it stunts their development as a man. And this is permanent stuff. Well, the surgeries are immediately permanent as they literally chop off body parts and then try to reconfigure, which doesn’t work, by the way. You turn this individual into a lifelong patient for medical intervention. And, I mean, if you go into this in detail, it’s just grisly. It’s just barbaric. And yet three. Yeah. And Tennessee said, we’re not going to do that to kids. And and this was being challenged to say, oh, you must allow this. And yeah, you’re right. Three justices actually said, no, we think Tennessee should be prevented from being able to put this law in place. And let me be clear on this one other element here. The Supreme Court was not forcing anything. Actually, the Supreme Court was telling individual states, you can make this decision on your own. That’s all they were doing, is saying this is not an issue that the federal government can control and overturn this decision. It’s telling each individual state, the United States Constitution does not allow the federal government to step in on this. And so it wasn’t forcing anything. It was saying, we don’t have the power to stop this. And in essence, it was telling the states, yes, you can do this. You can make this decision that we won’t allow these surgeries and these medical procedures in our state.
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So hence, Colorado, with all of the legislation and the support of transgender mutilation surgery and pharmaceuticals on our children, will become a sanctuary state for that, yes?
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Well, yes, and I believe it was the Attorney General that suggested that uh pointed that out publicly in a statement after after this came down well you can still do this in colorado and we will defend that you know um okay and this guy wants to run for governor too the attorney general right yeah yeah yeah you know put put that all in your your mix i and then now and we’ll get to that in just a minute i’ll try to be kind of quick here because So that’s the circumstance we have here in Colorado. And the Supreme Court wasn’t saying Colorado can’t do that. Understand that, too, that the court was taking a very conservative perspective on saying, we will not engage in this. Well, anyway, I’ll leave it at that. And here in Colorado, we have a legislature and a governor who insist that we’re going to be a a sanctuary state for really butcher doctors, I’ll put it that way, because that’s what they are, whether they do it chemically or through surgery. And the legislature is blessing this and encouraging this. Well, lay on top of that the fact that we, the people, disagree. And I know that for a fact on my experience with Protect Kids Colorado, as well as polling data and just flat-out common sense that most people know better. And Colorado shouldn’t be going down this road of allowing and encouraging such gruesome, you know, I’ll put it within quotes, medical procedures, because it’s not medicine. No, and… And it’s also not the argument they make is, oh, well, these kids will go out and commit suicide if we don’t do this. Well, no, that’s not true either. If you look at the facts, it’s the exact opposite. When you push a child down this path and children don’t make these choices on their own. And in Colorado, they allow 12 year olds to make decisions concerning their children. their mental health explicitly and their medical health in the sense that the parent finds a closed door when the doctor wants to talk to the child.
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It’s not okay.
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Yeah, and it’s not okay. So Protect Kids Colorado, we are working on putting an initiative together that will allow the voters of Colorado to override the legislature and the political power structure we have here. And why I think the Tennessee decision was so important is I knew that one of the big arguments that were going to be made against this is, well, we’ll take it to court and we’ll get this overturned. Well, the Supreme Court has said, no, you won’t. No. No, each state has their prerogative to do as they choose in this area. And if the people of Colorado establish a law, now it’s true the legislature could change a statutory law, but still we’re fairly confident that they’ll pay attention if we get this done. And the courts have preemptively approved what we’re attempting to accomplish and that’s why it’s so important because it helps fortify the effort of protect kids colorado because we we are working on this right now um we’re in some of the later stages of actually preparing petitions to distribute and i’m so encouraged and excited that in the next several weeks we’re going to be ready to roll. We’re on the backstretch of this. It’s very complicated to put these things together and have that team in place, but we’re doing it.
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Well, absolutely. And we had Yvonne Paez on yesterday who’s heading up all of the petitions. And if you want to have anybody do that, she is the person for that. And more information, go to ProtectKidsColorado.org, ProtectKidsColorado.org. We are going to continue the discussion on a variety of issues with former State Senator Kevin Lundberg. We have these discussions because of our sponsors. If you have been injured, you want to make sure that you reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. As we are coming into Independence Day, Independence Week, a great thing to do to honor all of those that have put their lives on the line. were given their lives for our liberty would be to make a contribution to the USMCMemorialFoundation.org. So check that out. On the line with me is former state senator Kevin Lundberg. He is the author of the Lundberg Report, which you can find at KevinLundberg.com. That’s L-U-N-D-B-E-R-G. Kevin Lundberg, another piece that you had highlighted this week In your Lundberg report was corrupt to the core. Colorado’s judicial cartel is finally under the microscope. This is a pretty important piece. So let’s let’s go through that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And I think it points out a little bit of what I try to accomplish with the Lundberg report, because I don’t try to do all the research. the background research for every story, I try to point people to sources of good information. And this one is published by PJ Media, which they’re real bulldogs on digging deep into stories. And this one talks about the court system in Colorado, particularly how it’s been handling the election integrity issues. And, of course, right at the top of that is Tina Peters and her circumstance. And I followed that one pretty closely through the years. I mean, Tina is a dear friend of mine that I’ve worked with in the last several years. We’ve both gone down this path of trying to figure out how are our elections conducted here in Colorado. Well, a big roadblock that we come up against again and again how the courts handle this, how judges do. And we’ve seen this across the country, but in Colorado it seems to be more intense. And also, I will tell you that as a state legislator, through the years, I have been just thoroughly disgusted by how our Colorado court system works. I remember back in 2003, the state legislature redistricted as we constitutionally had a responsibility to do it will go into all the details on that but then it was run back through the state courts and the color of the supreme court comes up with a bizarre ruling that the legislature cannot redistrict because the supreme court did it two years earlier uh… because back then the legislature’s sort of the way but the court came to this conclusion at that point they said because from time to time has to adjust legislation, and a court does, you know, if a law doesn’t make sense, they sometimes have to sort it out. They said, therefore, the Colorado court system is a part of the legislature because the Constitution, the Colorado Constitution says the legislature shall redistrict. Well, since the court did it, the court came to the conclusion, well, we already did it, the legislature’s already done it because the court did it. And that flies in the face of the separation of powers, which is another part of the Colorado Constitution. And I had to just shake my head in complete disbelief as how absurd they were in their logic. And I kid you not, that’s exactly what they said in their 50-page decision back then. Now, I use that as an example of how bizarre some of our court decisions have become from our judges. And that’s what happened with Tina Peters. uh… uh… uh… tried in mason county if you follow that case carefully discovered that that that the judge was just way over the top and uh… and this article points that out and also points out that last year it was the color court system that that said donald jay trump cannot be on the primary ballot And that was thrown into the U.S. Supreme Court, who unanimously said, you guys are crazy. You know, how do you come up to these things? Well, it’s been so heavily politicized. And finally, there was an article that pointed these details out. And so I wanted to point everybody to this and say, look at this, read it carefully, because I think they did a very good job of exposing the – But from time to time, I will just use one of my subjects and say, go look at this, what they said here. Because what they’re saying is really important stuff that we, the people of Colorado, need to know about. And I have a very low confidence level for the Colorado court system. And I hate to say that, especially in a public forum like this. But people need to know that it’s just far too political in this country.
SPEAKER 17 :
state for our state courts system and we see it happening elsewhere but when it’s happening here at home it’s really important that we the people need to know about it well and kevin this didn’t happen just overnight it’s important to realize that the courts really the supreme court justices they’re appointed by the governor aren’t they or how how does that happen so well
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, actually, let me explain that a little bit, because there is a… The way the governor chooses the judges is he’s given a choice of, I think it’s three judges or possibilities, and then he picks the one that he wants. And that might be a decent system… if you had some balance within the executive branch in Colorado, in other words, the judges selected, and they serve in Colorado until the age of 72, I believe it is, or maybe it’s 73, but there’s a mandatory retirement at that point. So we do kind of flush things out at the end. But if you’ve got 50 years of almost all progressive, liberal, Democrat governors, because we only had one time with with the bill owens who served for eight years as a republican but aside from that you know it’s it’s been one-sided on on who’s been selecting the the appointees and and so you end up with this overwhelming left-leaning progressive and and here’s how it’s spells out for governor are for judges progressive means you don’t take the Constitution seriously You don’t believe in original intent. You believe it’s a, quote, living document. And so it’s just anything goes. You know, you are the kings and the queens of the land if you’re the judges. And we live in a country, a constitutional republic, where we establish our laws upon not the whims of individuals, but on the specific objective reality of a constitution, both at the federal level and at the state level. And it gets abused when all of your judges are appointed by liberal appointors.
SPEAKER 17 :
So we only have two minutes left, but how do we correct this?
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re going to elect. You know, we’ve got an important election coming up in 2026, and we have— It’ll be a new governor. We already pointed out an attorney general who has his hat in the ring on one side. And on the Republican side, there are, I think, over a dozen people running for nomination to be the Republican leader and candidate for governor. And the legislature is equally important because uh you know and that’s all been pretty much one-sided for the last 20 years as well and only six years that the republicans controlled one um uh no they’re eight years eight years within the last 25 years actually wow so elections really have consequences yeah and i think i didn’t quite do my math right there but But pretty close, yeah. And so, yeah, you need to get engaged as far as who you send to the statehouse and who you vote for for governor and who you support. Not just voting, but now it’s early enough in the process that people can really get involved. And I see a lot of people doing it. I really am somewhat upbeat for two reasons. One is… More and more people are understanding it within the Republican ranks. And I’m going to be partisan for the next 30 seconds here, because it really boils down to A or Party B. The Democrat Party has proven to be a bad choice here in Colorado for a lot of reasons.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, the Democrat Party has been taken over by radical extremists. Kevin Lundberg, I always appreciate it. We’ll talk to you here in a couple of weeks. Thank you for all the great work that you do. And again, that’s protectkidscolorado.org for more information. So have a great Independence Week, and we will talk soon.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you very much. Great being with you.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. And a lot of great information from Kevin Lundberg. Always appreciate him being on the show. And I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is because of our great sponsors, all of you, your support of the show, that we are able to bring all this information to you. So thank you so much. And check out our website. That is KimMonsonMonson.com. While you’re there, make sure you’re signed up for our weekly email newsletter. That goes out on Sundays. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. The text line, and I do want to hear from you, is 720-605-0647. Keep those cards and letters coming. And the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. That is on all KLZ 560 platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app, and then you can catch us on Spotify and iTunes as well. Our word of the day is dominion, and it is D-O-M-I-N-I-O-N. It’s a noun. It could be control or the exercise of control sovereignty. Number two, a territory or sphere of influence or control, a realm. Or number three, a self-governing nation under the nominal rule of the British monarch. So dominion is D-O-M-I-N-I-O-N. And I said that God has dominion over all the world. And thank you, Mark. He sent this over. Genesis 1, 26 said, But it does mean that we must be good stewards. of all of this as well. Now, what we have and what has happened is with these environmental movements is they have upheld the environment, the earth, the creation, they’ve upheld that as something to worship instead of the Creator. So we are to be good stewards of our earth, but we do have dominion over the earth and ultimately we want to be good stewards of the earth and we want to facilitate human flourishing and prosperity how do you do that that’s liberty the responsible exercise of freedom which that is the core foundation of the american idea which of course we will be recognizing, celebrating on July 4, which next year will be our 250th birthday. A lot was happening 200 years ago, 1775, or 250 years ago, 1775. I do believe that we are in the third founding of America. determining what it is that we’re going to pass on to the next generation is it going to be liberty responsible exercise of freedom or is it going to be tyranny and those that worship government that think government should be in control of everything that government is the answer the government is the king that is those that did the no more kings protests actually want government to be the king, and they want to be the ones that are in charge there. So that’s very important to get the word dominion in the right spot. Our quote of the day is, is from C.S. Lewis, born 1898, died 1963. He was a British writer, literary scholar, Anglican lay theologian, and a Christian apologist. And he said this, the moment you are disillusioned with the world is the moment you are starting to build a new one. And we’ve got John Bozen on the line. John Bozen with Bozen Law. If you’ve been injured, you want to reach out to them. Some pretty heavy subjects today, huh, John Bozen? Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
It seems like every day. Kim, good morning.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, and I chose the word dominion and C.S. Lewis today for our quotes. But let’s get over to your business. And that is you help people if they’ve been injured. And sometimes they can be injured by a product or a defective product or pharmaceuticals. So what about that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and sometimes it’s becoming… kind of more and more all the time, depending on what you do and how many products and pharmaceuticals and things you take. And, yeah, I’ve been helping folks for 35 years go up against big pharma, big companies that put stuff out there that hurts people. Right now we’re pursuing the GLP-1 drugs that help people help. Some people lose weight. Roundup is another product that a lot of folks have used, and it’s been shown to be very dangerous for people that are exposed to it to a certain degree and then develop non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. A lot of bad stuff out there, whether it’s a product or a pharmaceutical. I just encourage people, please do your research. More so with, I mean, it’s easier with, nothing’s easy anymore because there’s so much misinformation out there. But if your doctor suggests that you go on a certain drug or pharmaceutical product, research, ask lots of questions, do your homework. If you take the time to look into it, you’re going to find that a lot of stuff out there that’s advertised, to do a certain thing comes with a lot of bad baggage and side effects. And some of these drugs are okay. And what I mean by that is not every drug affects every person. But there’s enough folks out there that may have a problem that you just really want to just ask yourself before you take something that you don’t necessarily need but it’s something suggested. that you don’t do it that way. You do it the old-fashioned way. I am referring right now to the GLP-1 products that talk about how easy it is to lose weight. Bad stuff out there, and companies put profit over people on a regular basis. They do that risk-benefit analysis, and that’s the sad part. They often, almost always know there’s a problem They don’t disclose it because they’re making money hand over fist. And they take that calculation and they figure they can get away with it for a certain period of time and make X amount of dollars and then deal with the lawsuits and the cost of defending those lawsuits down the road. And I’ve seen it over and over and over again.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, if somebody has been injured with a product or a pharmaceutical, they should call Bowes & Law. And what’s that number?
SPEAKER 08 :
They should. Yes, they should for that consultation. 303-999-9999. Whether it’s a bad product, a bad pharmaceutical drug, a motor vehicle collision, a trip and fall, a dog attack, whatever it may be, whatever harms someone. And again, Your listeners out there, when you hear of something happening to someone, please encourage them to call and not wait because time is always of the essence. The sooner we can talk to someone, give them the advice they need to get on the right path, the better off they’re going to be. And again, that number is 303-999-9999.
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Again, that’s John Bozen with Bozen Law, 303-999-9999. And then we’re going to be pre-recorded next week for Independence Week, and we will be getting your thoughts on our Declaration of Independence and our founding. So can’t wait to do that, John Bozen.
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Look forward to it, Kim. Have a great rest of your show.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And do you have big dreams for your future, but you’re not quite sure how to get there? Well, call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. They know your financial life is unique, and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they build personalized strategies that put your freedom and goals first. No sales pressure, no one-size-fits-all approach, just thoughtful guidance built around you. Take that first step toward your future. Call Mint Financial Strategies at 303-285-3080. That’s 303-285-3080. And today is Producer Joe, Producer Luke, the young guys. We’re doing our book review of The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. And we’ve got Joe behind the board, and we’ve got Producer Luke on the line. We’re going through Chapter 6 today. which is, you know what, yeah, I did. I want to make sure I did the Word of the Day and the Code of the Day, which, and I pulled the Word of the Day from the title here of Chapter 6, of new dominions which have been acquired by one’s own arms and powers. So let’s start with you, Producer Luke, on this particular chapter from The Prince. What’s your thoughts about it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thanks for having me. Always good to be here. Sorry I couldn’t be in studio. Got a little hot up this morning, but I figure being here over the phone is just all right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, good to have you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, thanks for having me. Chapter 6, it was interesting. It’s been a little while since I’ve gone through the full book. And we read it, so when we were discussing which chapters to cover, and I was flipping through it, I saw chapter six. It kind of jumped out as a little topical, especially with all the stuff that’s kind of coming out of the Middle East for what feels like the 100th time this, you know, decade. Sort of, what is it, conquering new principalities. So I have my physical book with me because I know we talked. What was it? The last time we were on there are some differences between the digital version and the physical version. So I have a physical version. Okay. Conquering new principalities, which are acquired by one’s own arms and abilities. And it takes, I think, a pretty ruthless approach when it comes to both conquering and then maintaining power within a nation. And I think this chapter we really see kind of this idea of uh you know the word machiavellian to kind of be on full display here uh where uh one of the things uh you know he talks about a couple times within this chapter is uh almost he doesn’t say the word ruthlessness but almost this idea of ruthlessness it’s a very like kill or be killed mindset that he kind of takes on. There’s a lot, I think, to unpack here. So without getting too verbose, I think it’s interesting to try and take a look at some of his ideas and some of sort of the strategies he employs today and seeing how a lot of those are still almost kind of in effect today.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. So Luke, Producer Luke, with the strikes and taking out the nuclear capability facilities for nuclear weapons in Iran, what is your ear to the ground? What is the people that you, the circles that you travel in, what are they saying about that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, boy. Well, when it comes to Iran, I think their opinions in this instance mirror mine pretty closely in that I really, deeply do not want to be involved in the Middle East anymore. It is, you know, we as America have been in the Middle East for so long. And it’s just… For us, right, for me and my friends in our position, it’s not our fight. It’s not, you know, I think they need to sort themselves out. And the fact that we keep getting involved is a huge problem. My personal piece from it, too, is we just left the Middle East. And when we left the Middle East, we gave them all of our good stuff. And now we’re coming back in, essentially… with this intent to use our own weapons to fight the enemy with our weapons that they stole from our poor exit. It’s just, I don’t know, it’s a mess all around. I don’t want to be involved in it anymore.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Okay, Producer Joe, question to you. In the circles that you travel with, what are your friends saying about this taking out the nuclear weapons capability of Iran?
SPEAKER 16 :
My group is saying actually kind of the opposite of Luke, unfortunately. Or, well, I mean, we’re all open to our opinions, but… I think the best way I’ve heard it so far is it’s like the bully on the playground, right? If you are off to the side and you’re watching this one kid push around all of these other people, at some point or another, you’ve got to stand up and fight the bully. And that’s kind of what we did. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
And… I, like you, well, both of you, I don’t like the idea of war. I don’t like the idea of us being involved in a war. I also don’t like the idea, though, of terrorists having nuclear weapons, Luke. And is that a subject that you and your colleagues are talking about?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. And I get the sentiment, because in principle and on theory, I agree. Terrorists do not have nuclear weapons. For me, in sort of our group, we’ve been burned too many times. If I had a dollar for every time we attacked the Middle East under the promise of intercepting or destroying weapons of mass destruction, I’d have enough money to build my own army to double-check that there are weapons of mass destruction. It feels like it’s the same excuse. And for me, personally, it makes me question. If we haven’t been able to, you know, to stop this for the past, you know, 24 years we’ve been involved with this, then what are we doing? You know, we’ve been in the Middle East hunting for weapons of mass destruction since September 11, 2001. It just… I don’t know. I’m not… I’m not sure I fully buy it this time. It feels like it’s the same excuse.
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So do you, again, your colleagues, do they feel, because going back to the prints by Niccolo Machiavelli in Chapter 6 of New Dominions, which have been acquired by one’s own arms or powers, we just went through these no kings protests. So are those out there saying that Trump authorizing taking out these nuclear weapons facilities, that he’s trying to conquer or be a king? Are you hearing that at all?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah, I’ve heard that a bit. Now, I think you could inform me a bit here, because my knowledge on this subject is a bit more limited than I’d like. A common sort of issue I see brought up here is that, and it’s also a little bit of my understanding, so please correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought authorizing a strike on a foreign nation is In essence, right, an accurate confirmation of war. I thought that was Congress who had to approve that. And as far as I’m aware, Congress didn’t.
SPEAKER 17 :
That is a very valid point, I think. And so I’m looking at a fact check because, and I can’t remember in history, that President Obama ordered strikes as well. I need to actually research that out.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I’m aware that Obama had ordered strikes. I remember that. But that was when we were already at war. I think we had pulled out. So that’s where I think a lot of the sort of contention comes from. Clearly some of it is from what I’ve seen. And, you know, speaking on a more personal level, I also feel personally kind of burned by this decision because one of Donald Trump’s primary platforms that he was kind of campaigning on, was this idea of no new wars. Famously, he had proclaimed pretty potently that when he took office that the war between Russia and Ukraine would be dealt with in 24 hours, and that is an issue that still persists, but regardless, he had still mentioned pretty vocally no new wars. That was a very huge campaign platform. So to go back on that one rather blatantly feels more like a It’s like a fool-me-once kind of situation, right? And I feel like we’re quickly approaching the twice-fooled portion of that little saying.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Still, I think the bottom line is, should a terrorist organization country have nuclear weapons? That’s the big question, don’t you think, Luke?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I absolutely agree. And I think it’s pretty universal. I think most, if not every person, would agree that terrorists should not own nuclear weapons. I think the thing that’s up in the air is, do they actually have nuclear weapons, and is this a genuine threat? Like I said… It feels like it’s an excuse they’ve used before. So while it’s not an immediate dismissal, I’m not as gung-ho about it as I may have been 15 years ago. Okay. Because, you know, 15 years ago they said the same thing. They have weapons of mass destruction. We need to go in. We need to stop them from getting weapons of mass destruction. And if we couldn’t do that in 15 years, I think it, I don’t know, it maybe shows a failure of us or maybe not everything’s above board.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Before we go to break, producer Joe, do you want to weigh in on this?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. I think the biggest thing that gets me, and you got to consider that Iran is a split nation as well. It’s the Ayatollahs who are doing all the craziness, but there’s a lot of people who are against them in Iran. And if They speak out, they die, though. That’s the unfortunate situation. So it’s not like the whole country is trying to compete with us. But when they build these underground nuclear facilities and then say, oh, we’re just… We’re trying to get nuclear energy, but they were refining it. I think I read it was like up to 70% or something like that refined uranium. You only need about 30% for good nuclear energy. And so there was definitely some questionable things. And I think Trump just… stood up or um was the bigger uh shoe if you would and he he was just trying to stand up for israel however i i am not a fan of getting back into the middle east either but it at some point or another we gotta do something to get this over with and i think that’s what he’s trying to accomplish
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. The text line, and you all are on it. The text line is 720-605-0647. And on the line with me is producer Luke. Behind the boards is Producer Joe. We’re going through Chapter 6 of The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli, which is our book review we’re doing each month. This title is of new dominions which have been acquired by one’s own arms and powers. And Anna, thank you for sending this in because there are those that have said Trump should be impeached because of this, taking out these nuclear weapons facilities in Iran. But Anna was on this, and this is where other presidents have taken action regarding bombing. She said Lyndon Johnson, 1963 to 69, Vietnam, the Dominican Republic. Richard Nixon, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos. Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, nothing significant. Ronald Reagan, Libya and Grenada. George H.W. Bush, Iraq and Panama. Bill Clinton, Iraq, Serbia, Sudan, Afghanistan. Let’s see, let’s get to her next one. Then George Bush, Afghanistan, Iraq. Barack Obama, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. So I think that is important, Producer Luke, to take a look at that from a historical standpoint. I was not aware of all of that. And if I wasn’t, you probably weren’t either.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, no, I was not aware of the extent.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, me either. So anything else we want to say on this? Because I found there another component in this chapter that I thought was very interesting, very relevant to Trump and what Trump is trying to do to push back on this big administrative state that we have. So anything else on that, Producer Luke? And then I’ll ask you, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. It’s a more personal sort of anecdote and position uh machiavelli states later in this chapter and sort of talks on themes of uh like use of force and violence as an integral part of sort of maintaining control um and i don’t disagree right so i want to make it clear that i don’t uh while i sort of morally and ethically think war is a universal bad, right? The death of the United States soldiers and stuff like that is always going to be a tragedy. However, unfortunately, the world we live in, war and violence are a very natural consequence of different ideas and different forces working against each other. It’s necessary. I don’t think we should… I think it’s a little maybe… too optimistic to say we should never have a war again. It’s a nice idea, but it’s never going to happen. That being said, when it comes to the Middle East, I don’t want to be involved in the Middle East anymore. But if we have to be, then I think what force we do decide to use could be so astronomically overwhelming that we solve the problem as quickly as possible. I don’t think the current climate in america can handle another 20-year war in the middle east i agree i think if if there’s a problem that you solve that problem very very quickly and you get out of it okay uh then some things coming in on the text line that i want to address any other comments on this producer joe
SPEAKER 16 :
I’m in complete agreeance with Luke, and I think just Donald Trump is the person to do that right now because he is very quick to action and wants to get the job done. He doesn’t want to piddle paddle around, and I think that’s where it’s very important we have the right person for right now.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Next thing coming in on the line from Jenny. She said, I agree with Luke in the sense that the U.S. always has an excuse to go to war for the military-industrial complex. The withdrawal from Afghanistan left enough of our equipment to supply a whole army with weapons of mass destruction. Are these wars part of the Hegelian dialectic? And that will be something that we’ll want to address at some point in the future. And let’s see here. It says this is from Mark. He said a parallel with Russia and Ukraine. Russia attacked Ukraine to prevent nuclear weapons from being placed on their border. Quite similar to Trump attacking Iran. And then this came in from Susan. She said when Obama ordered strikes, we were not at war. Only Congress can declare that the president has allowed limited strikes without going to Congress first. And it goes on to say that that with these Democrats being elected, If these Democrats were not elected, none of these wars would be happening. And, Luke, I had had a very well-informed listener that had reached out regarding Iran and said in 1978 – Jimmy Carter actually pulled my colleague’s colleague in and said, ask the Shah to resign. At the time when the Shah was in power in Iran, it was prosperous. Women could go to school. They didn’t have to wear all the cover-up garb and all that. And when the Ayatollahs came in, they came in and totally oppressed the people. And then under Obama… There were pallets of cash that were sent by plane to Iran, which could be used for terrorism. And then under the Biden-Harris administration, basically kind of stepped aside to let the nuclear capabilities continue to grow. So the Democrats have facilitated, I think, the rise of power of Iran in the Middle East, Luke.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think sort of hearkening back to what one of the first texters had stated, you know, there always seems to be an excuse. And that’s, I think, kind of where I’m at intellectually on this topic. It’s like, man, it feels awfully convenient that there’s always some reason to go to war over there. uh, you know, Donald Trump and the current administration. And this, this definitely begins to edge towards the side of maybe, maybe not. Uh, so grains of salt and all that, obviously, uh, my views on this matter, uh, are very different. Uh, you know, I know, uh, the pieces that I know, but I think, I think it feels like an excuse. I think it feels like, uh, a very good, oops, got to go to war again, uh, because a wartime president, uh, is always almost a little bit more stable because it sort of rallies the troops, both literally and metaphorically. Okay. Yeah, like I said, if we have to do it, right, if we have to be involved, then get it done quickly. Okay. Because, you know, fly some planes with really big bombs and wipe your hands of it. I don’t, you know, if we have more American citizens coming home with, you know,
SPEAKER 17 :
lost legs and uh you know ptsd from dirty bombs for another 20 years i think that’s going to cripple us yeah that’s a very interesting point this came in again susan said regarding iran it said it’d be one thing if iran wasn’t busy running around every day saying death to america and talking about all the people they’re going to kill if they weren’t doing that uh it’d be a different story she’s got an excellent point on that producer joe your thoughts
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I’ll bring it back to the playground bully analogy. If the playground bully is sitting there saying, I’m going to beat you up at some point or another, you got to take them seriously. And I completely agree that… We don’t want war, and you’re right, or Luke’s right. It’s going to cripple us if we have another 20-year war, but Trump does things very decisively and quick, and so I have hope that… It’s not going to be elongated out like the last two presidents have done. The two presidents, Obama and Biden, have done to make it last much longer than it probably should have.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Yes, I think being decisive is pretty important on that. So we’re going to go to break. When we come back, there is a part in this chapter from The Prince where it says of new dominions which have been acquired by one’s own arms and powers. But it talks about rules and regulations and how those have been used to establish positions. And it’s probably about in the middle of the chapter. And so I want to get Producer Joe and Producer Luke’s comments on that because it looks to me like the PBIs, what they’re trying to do to stop the Trump administration as Trump is trying to get this country back together. back to a spot where it really is supposed to be. And so we’re going to continue the discussion. These happen because of our sponsors. And he was in studio yesterday, and that’s Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And another nonprofit I would really recommend that you support is the Center for American Values located in Pueblo. And they focus on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. They’re nonpolitical. They’re nonpartisan. But they are doing amazing work to find out more about them. And all their programs, their K-12 educational programs, their On Values presentations, and, of course, recognizing our Medal of Honor recipients. You can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That is AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with us is Producer Luke. Behind the boards is Producer Joe. We’re doing our book review of The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. And Gammy texted this. She said… It appears that by doing what Trump did, it probably stopped a complete war between Israel and Iran by interjecting a move that he can do because of agreements in the past. And so that Iran is not able to get nuclear capabilities. And she did, again, address what I did, the fact that Obama paid Iran in pallets of cash for And I think several billions of dollars. I think there’s a B in that. There are those that say, well, that was their money that was here in the U.S. However, giving money to terrorists I don’t think is a good idea. Okay, changing gears here, Producer Luke and Producer Joe, in, let’s see, it’s in the, I guess it’s the second paragraph. The first paragraph’s long. A few lines down, it says, “…those who by heroic means, such as these, become princes, obtain their dominions with difficulty, but retain them easily.” And the difficulties which they have in acquiring their dominions arise in part from the new rules and regulations that they have to introduce in order to establish their position securely. So I’m thinking, Luke and Joe, about PBIs. They have to get these new rules and regulations in place. It goes on to say, it must be considered that there is nothing more difficult to carry out, nor more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to handle than to initiate a new order of things. Now I’m thinking of Trump and Doge. So for the reformer has enemies and all those who profit by the old order and only lukewarm defenders and all those who would profit by the new order. And this lukewarmness arises partly from the fear of their adversaries who have the laws in their favor and partly from the incredulity of mankind who do not truly believe in anything. So drilling down on this, I’m looking at Trump and Doge and all these rules and regulations that they’re trying to impose. get back under control, get rid of those. And there are those that have their feet just really dug in, that they do not want to let anything happen. So what’s with Doge and reducing the size and scope of government? What’s your thoughts on that, Producer Luke? And then we’ll go to you, Joe.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think you see it as a little microcosm of just about anything where power exists. It’s kind of interesting to watch it happen on a very large scale that’s very visible, because a lot of the same principles can be applied even on the smallest level. A new manager comes into your place of work and in doing so implements a whole bunch of new rules to try and leave their mark or to change things up. And, you know, it makes people angry or, you know, the new head of an HOA is elected and all of a sudden that power immediately goes to their head. and they try and, you know, start enforcing odd rules or making changes. All of it, regardless of scale, from a new manager to a store to the owner of an HOA to PBIs to, you know, those in the highest seats of power in our government, who do these changes benefit? And I think if we can get some eyes on that, I think it’ll open a lot of very important doors sort of keep us informed. Nothing happens without reason. And while sort of on principle I think it’s easy to agree with Doge, right, this idea of cutting unnecessary government spending, still I want to make sure that we sort of assess everything as thoroughly and logically as possible and figure out, you know, is this benefiting anyone in a way that it maybe shouldn’t?
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, now I’ll interject here. I think that the work that Doge is attempting to do to reduce the size and scope of government, to reduce rules and regulations, it’s a monumental job because all of this is so entrenched. But it has got to be done, and when I say it’s got to be done, to have government grow and grow and grow to a point where it is the king, and government wants to take everything that you, or most everything that you work for, then we become slaves of government. And so I think that the work that Doge has been doing in reducing government is super important. Your thoughts, Producer Jo?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think there was a word in that paragraph that you just read, the heroic means. That, I think, is very important. We have seen PBIs and everybody in between kind of push against Trump because they want to keep lining their pockets. I mean, you can look at the climate conversation just for that reason. And Trump is… trying to put it back to reality and i think that is a very key point in all of this is he’s he’s been there’s been attempts on his life twice and on top of that he has all these other people kind of fighting back and slandering his name i mean they tried to bring him to court or brought him to court even. He’s having to go through all of these hardships. And when you think about Hercules, he had his 10 trials before he became a hero. And I think that is very key to this.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Very good point. Anything else on that, Luke? Because I’ve got some other text messages regarding Iran on that, but regarding Doge.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I think we’ll probably spend the rest of our time getting to those text messages, so I did want to sort of leave off from the text one piece nearer the end of the chapter, which I thought was very interesting. My copy of the text states here in the second-to-last paragraph, if Moses, Cyrus, Thessius, and Romulus had been unarmed, they could not have enforced their constitutions for so long. It then goes on to say a little bit later, therefore, such as these having great difficulties in consummating their enterprise, skipping ahead, yet with the ability to overcome them, and in this overcoming, it says here, and those who have envied them and their success are exterminated, they will have to be respected and they will continue afterwards powerful, secure, honored, and happy. And it’s kind of interesting, you know, The Prince by Machiavelli was written in approximately 1513, released some decades later, a little bit later in time there. But it kind of hearkens to the American idea in general in that, you know, in being armed and in overthrowing your oppressors. They were more successful in maintaining their constitution and maintaining power. So to see that idea theorized about a good number of years before America even thought to try it, very interesting.
SPEAKER 17 :
Gosh, Luke, I had not… really connected that dot. But as you mentioned it, yes, that has the basis of the Second Amendment, where the Second Amendment is there that people have the right to keep and bear firearms. And the reason is, is to be able to protect ourselves against bad actors. And when we look at liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom in a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, That means that we should be able to have firearms to, again, protect ourselves against bad actors who might want to totally take all power, which we’re seeing government is really wanting to get to a point where it takes everything. And I love the Second Amendment, but I really think we can engage in this battle in ideas without picking up arms. I think that we can reclaim our country by having the conversations such as what we’re having right now, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and the whole thing with having arms, in my opinion, too, is just the ownership of it is a deterrent. So if it’s on your hip, generally you’re not going to get mugged as much. And I think that’s the key point is we don’t want to ever come to violence, but we need to be able to say, hey, if you don’t stop, it will get violent.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Excellent point. But that’s, again, that’s why we have deterrence. And that’s why the Second Amendment is important. Luke, we’ve got about a minute left. Good point on this. How do you want to wrap this up?
SPEAKER 09 :
Man, I think there’s a lot to take in, and to those who haven’t read The Prince by Nicola Machiavelli, it’s a worthwhile read. At the very least, to sort of see how a lot of these ideas and principles, which again, to sort of recap very briefly, What Machiavelli did in The Prince is, in essence, sort of reveal or unmask the tactics that those in power have been using for some time. It is framed as an advice piece, but what it really is doing is sort of telling the tell-all tale of how those in power kind of maintain and acquire their power. And even written in 1513 to see how cyclical some of these ideas are, to see those same principles keep returning over and over and over across all of history, I think kind of, you know, maybe if we read ahead, we might have a good idea of what’s to come.
SPEAKER 17 :
And that’s why the founders were so well-read. They understood this. That’s why the American Constitutional Republic is so unique throughout the history of mankind. Producer Joe and Producer Luke, you guys are real sports to do this. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you for having me, Kim. And it’s always a pleasure to be here.
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