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Join John Rush and guests Bruce Simmons and Andy Pate for a robust conversation about coping with economic fluctuations through reverse mortgages. As they explore the impact of potential changes in the US presidency on financial markets, Bruce offers expert advice on navigating the reverse mortgage landscape. The episode highlights how interest rates affect loan amounts and the importance of timely decision-making in uncertain economic climates. Whether you’re directly affected or know someone who might benefit from a reverse mortgage, this episode equips you with the knowledge to better understand this financial tool.
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It’s finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
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So I tell him I’m a pro jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he’s going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won’t be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Payton.
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I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
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What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
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What do you want to do tonight?
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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I’m done.
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Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush. John Rush.
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All right, happy Friday, everybody. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, waiting for the storm. It is on its way in. Andy Pate with me today as well, and you said the temperature is already sinking.
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It is falling fast. It was 50 earlier, and just as I was coming in, it was almost down to 32 and falling.
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Okay, Bruce Simmons with us as well. Bruce, and you can verify some of what Andy’s saying. I came earlier, so it was fairly nice when I got here, actually.
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Yes, I felt it as well. That breeze is a bit, you could tell it has the chill in it.
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Well, it’s much colder next to the windows. We position all our guests next to the windows. That’s so nice of you.
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Oh, yeah.
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I appreciate it.
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You know, it’s part of the service. Well, before you guys got here, it was a hot box, so it’s actually finally, you know. Cooling off a tad. Well, that’s nice. Thank you for changing the temperature or whatever you did when you got here because it was a little warm here before that. All right, Bruce, reverse mortgages. As we head into 2025, a new year, and who knows what’s going to happen when it comes to rates and economy and a new president and all of that. I think we’ll know fairly quickly, by the way, how things are going to look. I don’t think Trump’s going to delay much at all when he gets into office. In fact, I was reading today that he’s already got 100 executive orders in. that he’s already got penned and ready to go. So he’s going to hit the ground running. Now, what does that mean economically speaking? I mean, who knows? I don’t have a crystal ball.
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He’s got to figure out a way to get some of those passed through Congress so that they stick after he leaves. So the next president. That’s right. So it can’t change.
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That’s exactly right. And the economy is very fluid anyways, and the reason I’m asking that is because we’ve had you on many times in the past, and I know a little bit about the way the reverse mortgage world works, and I know that the higher the rate, the less money there is to help somebody out with when it’s all said and done, correct?
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Exactly, and that’s one of the things I’m going to be talking about soon on my radio show that I have on Legends Radio. is that expectations, because I talk to people and we can’t loan them as much as they think that they should be able to get. People say, oh, well, I thought I could get 60% or 70% of the value. And no, it’s not that way. We’re loaning somewhere between the low 30% of the value, not equity. That’s the other thing people get wrong is they think that, well, I’ve got $300,000 in equity and I can get 50% of that, right? No, that’s not how that works.
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I’m not on a reverse mortgage, no.
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No. And so I need to help set expectations for people in that respect. And certainly if rates do come down, then we can loan a higher percentage. But if we can loan you enough now to eliminate your principal and interest mortgage payment so you don’t have a mortgage payment, you still have to pay your taxes and insurance, but get rid of that principal and interest portion of it, even if you don’t have $100,000 left over, you might only have $10,000, Do it now because there’s a saying in the forward world, I don’t know if your other guest has said this, where you marry the house and you date the rate. Oh, yeah, no, that’s exactly right. And with a reverse mortgage, it’s possible that you might be able to refinance in the future where we could loan you more money then.
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Kurt will say the exact same thing. He’s on the traditional mortgage side, but he’ll say the exact same thing. Absolutely.
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Yeah. If you can pay off your existing mortgage, get out from under that payment. Because I’ve got stories from customers I talked to at the end of 22 when rates just started going up. We could loan them enough, but not quite. They couldn’t get as much money left after we paid off their mortgage as they wanted. They said, I’ll just wait until 2023 when the rates drop. And that still hasn’t happened. We’re still waiting three years later, two years later or so.
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Well, Bruce, with all the credit debt right now, I’m sure that reverse mortgages are really paying off for a lot of people. However, what do you sense in the market at this moment? Are people kind of tentative just because of the changing of the guard? You’re going from one presidency to another one, totally new economic plan coming in. Are they just kind of waiting and seeing what’s coming, or are they more excited about the future?
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That’s a good question. I really don’t get into that much with my clients about that.
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No, but I mean as it affects your business, as it affects people wanting to go with reverse mortgages.
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Generally, no. I do have one customer that he wanted to wait, and even then after the election, he’s still waiting. And it’s just kind of trying to get people off the schneid, you know. Right. Either make a decision one way or the other.
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No, I’ve talked to, as you know, I coach other businesses and such, and I think some of just the general climate of people wanting to spend money, I don’t know why, they’re waiting for Monday, I guess, just to get through. I think there’s so much hype at times that go around the Internet, social media and so on, where, you know, will Trump really make it in? Will there be some sort of a big revolt before that happens? And all this, it’s utter nonsense because literally it is. It’s utter nonsense. But yet that gets planted in somebody’s mind and they want to see things come to fruition before they move forward.
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John Bruce, I think the climate is good. I think it’s going to be very good. I’m very confident. I think it’s a good time to move on deals that can benefit you.
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Can’t argue that. I think so, too. I think we’re going to see better times, although I can see volatility, a lot of volatility coming up because of the changes that happen and how markets react to it. And I heard on another station on the way in, not that I don’t always listen to you, but most of the time. But I forgot it was Ready Radio. That’s okay. And anyways, they were saying that how there is a national or international conservative movement. wave, basically, that Trump is kind of brought in.
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Starting from Canada, going overseas and so on.
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Germany.
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And that could have another, to your point, Bruce, that could have an economic effect even on a worldwide basis. Again, a lot of things in flux. And I’m with Andy, though. Yeah. And I’ve been telling clients, I mean, I think things are going to get much better. Trump’s going to do things right off the bat to get things rolling. Now, to your point, Bruce, where interest rates lie when this is all said and done, I don’t have that crystal ball.
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Nobody does, but I don’t think they’re going to be coming down anytime soon. There’s a 40-year cycle where from like 1940, rates were trending up until 1980 along with higher inflation. Then in 1980, they started coming down along with lower inflation. And now we’re back 40 years later in 2020. They bottomed out, and now they’re trending back up along with higher inflation. So some people, I’ve seen people that say that we’re on a 40-year cycle of higher rates and higher inflation. I don’t know that that’s true.
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I don’t either. I have no clue.
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But it’s all interesting. I think that if you can qualify to get out from under this payment that you have now, if that’s your goal, you should do it. If you own your home free and clear.
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That’s easy.
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It’s a great way to get it in place and get the line of credit because the line of credit has a growth rate to it. It gets larger. And the higher the interest rate is, the quicker your line of credit grows. And it’s guaranteed. It’s not going to be closed out if the value of your home drops. You have to continue to pay your taxes and insurance and live there and all that. But it’s a way that you could… have access to money 10 years, 20 years down the road. Figure at the rates where they are now, your money will basically double in 10 years.
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Okay. Good to know.
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And if you’ve got $100,000 in the line of credit, you’ll have $210,000 years from now.
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You can find Bruce again. Go to klzradio.com. You can go to rushtoreason.com. You can call him directly, 303-467-7821. You can do it that way as well. Did I miss anything?
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No, that’s perfect.
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Easiest way to do it.
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Well, my website, too, is reversemortgageradio.net.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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So all of that works, and I’ve said this many, many times. There’s a lot of misconceptions around all sorts of things, reverse mortgages being one of them, and put all that aside, talk to Bruce directly, have a one-on-one, get a cup of coffee and figure out exactly where you’re at with things, or even relatives might have aunt, uncle, grandparents, whatever the case may be that might be interested in this, and they may have heard all of the horror stories and put all those aside.
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It’s funny you say that because just yesterday I got a call from a guy that I’ve got an appointment with next week. His sister heard me on the radio, and she told him to call. There you go. And he called me, and it’s great. Perfect.
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Perfect. Bruce, I appreciate you as always.
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Oh, yeah. Thank you very much.
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You’re very welcome. Are you going to stick around?
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I can stick around for a little bit, sure.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. John Rush. Together with Bruce Simmons. I am Andy Pate. And John. And Bruce. And Bruce. Are you ready for a movie? Yes.
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Yeah, we flip-flopped these since Bruce is going to hang with us for a few minutes, and we flip-flopped these. We’re going to look at the second movie first. That’s fine. This is perfect.
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Yeah, why not?
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Thank you for doing that.
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Okay, well, you know, guys, sometimes in war, the bravest actions aren’t on enemy lines but behind them. That’s very true, right? I mean, that’s a very dangerous place to be, behind enemy lines when you’re fighting for your life. Well, let’s take a look at that in number 24.
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Have you turned 25 yet? Yes. There’s a chance you won’t get older. Have you considered that? I can accept that.
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Have things that occurred during the war bothered you afterwards?
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My mind never rested and I let very little get to me. For if I’d done that, I would have been done for.
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There are a lot of people looking for me. And there will be more I’m inclined to believe.
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They’ll do anything to find out your real identity.
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Take these with you and always carry them. You cannot let them take you alive.
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You have to do your job. And we will do ours. Because what happens in war is that subtle differences just disappear and things become black and white. And all at once, completely different rules apply.
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Who’s taken whom, when, where? That is vital information you and I die with. Do you hear me?
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So non-violence was never something you ever considered?
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I lost eight of my dear friends during the resistance, and that was by order of the Germans. But how would you have reacted if your best friends were betrayed?
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You take him out of town, then shoot him.
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I believe that freedom is worth almost anything. For it’s either freedom or it’s death.
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Well, I think the three of us can agree with that, can’t we?
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Yes.
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Absolutely. Well, one nation that was taken by the Nazis was Norway, which means many people live behind enemy lines there. And one such person was Gunnar Sonstaby. He led a resistance. Now, we begin our film seeing an elderly Sonstaby lecturing a young group of Norwegians. He is friendly, wise, engaging. But his story, John, is terrifying. Initially, Gunnar was a young man who liked to ski with a good friend. You know, he’s a young guy. And he had all the same desires as other young men, you know, girls, going out. But there was a difference. Gunnar had the ability, the very rare ability, to silence these desires for the sake of a greater need, freedom. Not many people can do that. Not many people can take their normal needs and completely silence them for the greater good. And I think that’s why those people are so incredibly rare in history. The founding fathers kind of remind me of that. Well, before long, we see Gunnar working with a resistance cell, then rising to leadership because the Nazis have moved in. He is incredibly meticulous. This guy is fascinating. He never sleeps in the same place two nights in a row. He wakes up around 3.30 each morning because Nazis sweep. They sweep suspected homes between 4 and 5. So he goes in the forest and grabs some more sleep on the ground. This guy, nothing, nothing will hold him back. Gunnar is incredibly careful in whom he trusts and how he arranges all the details for every attack on the Nazis. He understands these are savages, but they’re brilliant savages who will stop at nothing to find him. They will torture, they will kill, they will infiltrate, and they will betray. Gunnar won’t even allow romance in his life, though resistance women do admire him. And who can blame them? Because they’ve just never seen anybody with this kind of focus and dedication. At multiple points, Gunnar is brought to England, where he receives orders and help. Surprisingly, he’s also interrogated as a possible traitor. This was fascinating. They interrogated him as a possible traitor. You want to know why? Because all his cohorts were dying and he wasn’t.
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Oh.
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They were wondering how on earth. How in the world did that happen? Right, because you’ve gone really on the front lines. You’ve accomplished amazing things. Everybody else is dying. Why aren’t you? Are you selling them out?
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And he’s like, are they somehow the enemy protecting you because you’re selling them out?
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Exactly. And he’s like, no, I’m that meticulous. Okay. At multiple points, Gunnar is, you know, basically questioned. But perhaps the most shocking aspect of this film is the Norwegian Nazis themselves. I didn’t know this. Okay. When you think about the worst Nazis.
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Norwegian Nazis.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Never heard of them. I didn’t.
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Oh, yeah, they were very receptive. So the Nazis swept in. It was military. But there were a lot of Norwegians who were very receptive. And, you know, you would think, who are the worst Nazis? The Germans, right? Wrong-o. OK, the Norwegian Nazis, the ones who would sell them out. Now, think about this. We’ve got a lot of people here in America who, let’s be honest, are very, very sympathetic to Islam and to what the Islamic terrorists did to the Jews recently. Right. And who are very sympathetic to communism. Right. And what communists have done in the name of that. And who are very sympathetic to these very left-leaning movements. Well, they had that too. And here was what was really surprising. These people were as terrifying as the German Nazis. Just as terrifying, if not more. They despised their countrymen. And they loved having the power to do this to them.
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I never knew.
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But think about it, John. Think about it. Aren’t there people right here in America who would love… To have the power to do to us what some of these worst people do. Okay, well, what works in number 24? By the way, number 24 is his code name.
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Okay, got it.
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What works in number 24? Well, this is a piercing look inside the head of a brilliant human being facing brilliant inhuman beings. They are hunting him. He’s the leader, and they’re hunting him in every way possible, churning over every stone, churning every person, doing everything they possibly can to find this guy, and he is brilliant. This foreign film, it is a foreign film, is much like Anthony Hopkins’ One Life from last year, but this is better. I’ll just say it. This is better. The pace is better. The intensity of the characters is better. The strategy is better. It’s amazing to see. Amazing to see what a person can achieve when they sacrifice deep human needs. So few of us do. Right. The Nazis had never faced someone who compromised on nothing in opposing them. We have to keep in mind the Nazis were experts in human psychology. They really were. And so they were almost always able to find these people. Why? Because they would play psychology against them. They would say, you know, this one needs food, this one needs safety, this one needs women, this one needs whatever, right? And whatever your needs were, they could leverage that to get you to turn on others or to get others to help them find you. Wow. Okay, well, Stonsteby’s answer was very simple. Eliminate all weakness. Have none. like that be a human machine basically and it was just fascinating to watch another interesting character is this young man whose brother was tortured to death i won’t say how but wow by the norwegian nazis now gunnar says to this guy hey if you want you can leave uh this guy wants the opposite he wants to be a weapon and so he becomes basically the main henchman to kill nazis What was that movie with Brad Pitt where they just killed Nazis? Inglorious Bastards. This guy would have fit in perfectly with that Jewish group in Inglorious Bastards.
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Okay.
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All he, he didn’t care. Because he had lost his brother, and it’s just like, and so he was nothing but a savage back at the savages. They had no idea what they had unleashed. There’s a great line in this, and this is when he’s speaking later, and you’ve got this young woman, and she’s obviously very troubled by his actions. I won’t say why. She talks about, well, can’t you, what about nonviolent? Look at how successful Gandhi was. And he has a great line. He says, Gandhi never fought the Nazis.
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Yeah, good point. Great point.
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And I’ll say one other thing that works in number 24. It has a very strong ending. Really strong. Really well done. Okay, what doesn’t work in number 24? Well, while the pace is good, the pace of the story is good. It moves along. And some of these films don’t. I’ll be honest, some of them don’t. The one with Anthony Hopkins at times did not, although it was a good movie. This moves along quite well. It’s a bit slow early on, but after that it moves along quite well. Number two, Sans to Be. Though a Norwegian hero isn’t a deeply interesting personality. He really isn’t. He’s not this compelling Braveheart-like personality who just grabs you and pulls you along in the story. Next, the sheer entertainment level isn’t on par with films like Braveheart or maybe The Patriot. Although, I’ll be honest, I’m reviewing this for everybody. But for me, I find this guy more enjoyable to watch than those. But that’s because I love the chess match. I really do. This is more fascinating than fun is what I’m saying. It’s got action. OK, it’s got some great explosions. It’s got some great moments. But this is more fascinating than fun. It’s a little bit more of a thinking man’s kind of movie, even though you’ve got some horrifying. I mean, there’s torture in this. I’m not going to kid you. So if you’re not up for, you know, the fact that they are going to do some torture. Don’t watch it. Don’t watch this movie. And finally, this shows momentary sympathy early on for communism, which kind of surprised me. I thought that was out of place. But, you know, if they’re just being historical, okay. Yeah.
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Because they were.
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Because I wasn’t in Norway. I don’t know. All right. But this shows because one thing that… Hitler was trying to do was also take out the communists, not because his views were anti-communist. I mean, he was right in line with them. He was socialist. They were competition. And so because of that, the communism was almost seen as free speech. One example of free speech in Norway, along with capitalism or anything else. Okay, so there you go. That’s what doesn’t work in 24. Pretty minor. Rotten Tomatoes, well, they only had six reviewers, and they all said yes. So I guess that’s 100%. But that’s not going to give you much of an idea. However, the reviews by the people watching this, it’s on Netflix, by the way, folks. This is a Netflix movie. You can go there right now. They gave it 96%. I’m going to also say yes, watch this movie, but I’m not going to go quite that high. I’m going to give it four stars, and the reason is I don’t believe that this is a hugely entertaining movie, although I found it entertaining. I found it an enjoyable watch. It pulled me along. I cared much more about this character and a couple others than I have in the majority of films I’ve seen recently.
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Hmm. Good to know.
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Yeah. In fact, probably the last time I saw a character that I enjoyed this much was probably the cat from Flow, of all things. Yeah. I know. But this was a fascinating movie, and I just never knew that about the Norwegian knots. I didn’t either. It blew my mind. Yeah, very interesting. But what’s really interesting is to see… What it was like for the Nazis to come up against one human being who took all his needs, set them aside, and was nothing but a methodical master and just a chess player.
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Did he leave notes or a diary or how did this story come to light?
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I don’t want to tell you.
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Okay.
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I don’t want to tell you because I don’t want to give it away. Yeah. Okay. But it’s on Netflix and it is worth watching. If it wasn’t worth watching, I’d tell you.
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But you think it’s a pretty factual movie? Yes. All right. Good. I’m looking forward to it. I’ll look at it this weekend.
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Yeah. By the way, this guy is viewed as the greatest hero of Norway to a lot of people. Wow. I think most people. He is their military hero. And there you go. Political, I’m going to give it three and a half. I would actually give it four, but I’m knocking it just a touch for communism is the opposite of free speech. Kind of silly there, but that’s okay. It was only a moment. Don’t care. Still three and a half stars. More religious, three and a half. I will tell you there is male nudity at one point for obvious reasons. I mean, you’re torturing prisoners. Exactly. Do I recommend watching number 24 on Netflix? Yes, I do, folks. I do. It is worth watching. It’s not one of those three-hour films. I think it’s under two. I’m pretty sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
And you watch it just for the historical side of it.
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Yeah, I think it’s an hour 51 or something like that. But first of all, you watch it for the historical if you’re into that, obviously. But also, I’ll tell you, you will like the characters. It will pull you along. You’re not going to be bored. There you go.
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Back to Rush to Reason, presented by High Five Plumbing, Heating, Cooling, and Electric, where every call ends with a high five.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Bruce Simmons and Andy Pate. And John and Bruce, I’ve got a question for you. Are you ready for another movie? Always. Last one sounded really good, so good job. Yeah. Well, you know, films like Megan. Did you ever see Megan? Never did. You never saw Megan. Well, it came out in January, and it was a real sleeper hit. It was a horror movie that came out a couple years ago in January. And it has a lot of us wondering if January could become the new horror months. Well, let’s find out in Wolfman.
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Hello? Can anyone hear me?
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Hello? We were in an accident. Daddy, are we gonna die?
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No. It’s my job to protect you.
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And we… we were attacked. I think my husband was infected.
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Mike?
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Mike?
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Mike?
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Daddy?
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Daddy? What’s wrong with daddy? He got sick. What is happening to me?
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Can you understand me? You’re scaring me.
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Hurry, Mommy. He’s coming.
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Oh, does that sound scary? The car never wants to start.
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I know.
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I was thinking the same thing. Dang thing. You know, these modern Wolfman movies are very scary. I mean, you’re not going to play Frisbee catch with these things, okay? These are very scary. Okay, Christopher Abbott and Julia Garner, who are both terrific actors, by the way.
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Rude from Ozark.
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Yeah. There you go.
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Awesome.
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I like her.
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I do, too. She’s great.
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I really do. Well, I mean, she brings a lot of energy to everything she does. Well, anyway, they star as Blake and Charlotte, a married couple with a young daughter named Ginger. Now, they live in a big city. She’s a busy reporter. He’s a writer. But Blake was raised in the past by a war veteran, survivalist father who was mentally abusive. Okay, I’m just going to say it. Stereotype alert. Stereotype alert. Right? I mean, come on. Daddy wasn’t sensitive. Well, now Blake is a sensitive modern dad, but he has one common thing with his dad. One thing in common with his dad. He’s highly protective of his kid. As for Blake’s dad, he hasn’t seen him in many years. Well, Blake and Julia, they don’t have a great marriage. She’s emotionally distant. She’s uninterested. And so when Blake hears his dad has been declared dead because he had gone missing for a while, So he’s been declared dead. He asked Julia to come with him to collect stuff from his childhood home. Got it. And, of course, bring their child. Well, it’s a farm in the Oregon countryside. I’ll say this. Cabin in the woods alert. Cabin in the woods alert. You see these stereotypes coming one after the other. Well, it’s a farm and it’s way out there. And, of course, it’s dark. And, of course, is there cell phone coverage out there? No. Of course not. We can’t have that. Well, they get lost on the way. He hasn’t been there for decades. And then they get back. I’m sorry. Then they get into a bad wreck with the moving van. And it’s a very bad wreck. And while trying to get out, Blake gets clawed at by a mysterious monster. Well, then, over the course of the night, the infection, it takes over and begins the super gross transformation of Sensitive Daddy into Murderous Wolfman. Remember the fly?
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Oh, yes.
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Yeah, you get the idea. Well, because so often in these movies, the Wolfman thing happens pretty quickly, right? You get scratched, and then as soon as there’s a full moon, boom, you’re a wolf. Mm-hmm. And it happens in, what, a minute or whatever. This is a slow transformation. I had never seen that done before. His senses are heightened. His teeth are being replaced. And Julia, she sees it happening after a bit and she tries to get help. Meanwhile, they still have to contend with the wolf. That’s out in the forest. And it’s hunting them. So they’re barricaded in the house. But dad is becoming what they fear outside. That’s not good. Poor guy. He’s losing his mind. And you see this piece by piece. He’s losing his mind as his mind is becoming more primitive. And he can’t understand what his wife and daughter are saying to him. And he’s becoming very frightened. He’s becoming a savage threat to those he loves best. Well… Can he ever get his humanity back? Can Charlotte and Ginger survive? And is there any way to rid the world of all those terrible survivalist war veterans? I’m telling you what, they scare me, John. You know, I mean, if we get bit, do we become wolves or MAGA voters? I’m not quite sure. What works in Wolfman? Well, first of all, the generational trauma angle, it’s interesting. It really is. We either become our parents or we become the opposite, but either way it controls us.
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Mm-hmm.
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We get aspects of them, but in this case, of course, he becomes sensitive. Why? His dad was insensitive, and so he wants to become the opposite. But he’s still highly protective of his child. And I thought that was really interesting watching that dynamic. Transitioning slowly into a wolfman is a totally different take from anything I’ve seen before. And it’s not fully wolf. So it’s very, very different from… Half man, half wolf.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But, John, it’s really different from what we’ve seen in the past, or if you watch the Underworld movies with the wolf men there, which, by the way, are super cool, and I recommend them for anybody. Chris Abbott and Julia Garner, they do a really good job with these roles. Of course, he has to do the role of transitioning, which is really pretty tough. Okay. I wonder if they have a place for detransitioning for them. They can take them. I’m not sure. Maybe a church camp. Beats me. I don’t know. Julie Garner, she is in a really tough way. And I think she does a good job because here she is not even close with her husband at all. But, of course, they love the daughter. And she is having a really hard time because she doesn’t connect with the daughter very well. She’s not very sensitive. He is. Okay. Which is kind of a reversal of what we often see. And she’s going through a lot. I thought she did a really good job trying to balance that because it was really tough. She’s a cold, distant woman going through this. And I thought she did a good job. And, of course, the girl who plays her daughter does a solid job. You know, she’s a screen kid. Right. That’s what she’s got to be. What doesn’t work in Wolfman? Well, this is a slow film for only 100 minutes. It really is. Basically, there’s not enough story here. There really isn’t. 100 minutes of movie, I would say there’s about 80 minutes of story tops. Tops. And I’m being generous here. And that story is plagued with silly stereotypes. Blake’s dad is threadbare Hollywood preaching. Really. Exaggerating the type of person they most hate. Right? They hate the prepper stereotype. They hate those preppers. Right. You know, it’s just yawn. You know, I’ve seen that too many times. And then there’s another backwoods hunter guy who’s also weird and scary in his own right. Once again, those prepper tights. This was like anti homestead of a movie. Right. And I thought that was kind of interesting. You have a poorly choreographed battle scene with Julia fighting a wolf man with a knife. She’s slashing away. When in reality, the monster would have just torn her apart. Come on. You’ve seen her. She’s little. No way. Come on. And you’re sitting there thinking, okay, seriously, we’ve all seen about 80 Wolfman movies. Okay. They all would have killed her by now. Right. She’d be Wolfman food at this point. But she’s actually holding up. Let’s see here. There’s some really awkward dialogue with the backwoods hunter guy. It was like the hipster urbanites writing this film had no idea what to do with that role.
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Leave him out then.
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You know what it really reminded me? The writers of this movie, looking at the preppers or looking at the backwoods guys, the hunters, just the hunters. They understood this character about as much as the left-wing media understood MAGA. And that’s why they didn’t see this election coming. Sorry to get political here for a moment, but I got that feeling from this. It’s like, guys, you’re writing this role really poorly and exaggerated and stupid, and it’s just not coming off well. It’s coming off clumsy because you don’t get it. Next, more grossness than scares. More ick than whoa, right?
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Okay.
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There’s too much lead up to the action also. As I always say in these horror films, you got to time it, baby. You got to have enough lead up to build that horror. You don’t want it too quick, right? But if you take too long, what do you do? You kill the mood. They take too long. in building up to it and it just it just doesn’t work it comes off weak finally you got a mediocre script at best it’s just not that good it desperately needed some more humor especially since uh julia garner chris chris abbott these two can pull off some humor put in a few more funny lines make it lighter because that makes the horror jump out more It doesn’t just all blend in. It didn’t work. It desperately needed some humor. Blumhouse needs to get back to its roots. Blumhouse Studios put out this movie. And most of their horror films are known for having good amounts of humor spotted in. And what that does is it picks up the pace and picks up the interest along the way every point in the movie. When you don’t have that, it comes off as a horror slog. Yeah.
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Okay.
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And this came off as a horror slog. It just wasn’t that good. Rotten Tomatoes, well, they agreed. They gave it 56%. They weren’t in love with this movie. Didn’t hate it, but they weren’t in love with it. I’m going to go a little lower since I was just thinking about this and I was thinking, Andy, would you recommend to anybody to actually watch this? No. I mean, it’s not terrible. If you’re really into horror, yeah, why not? Because, you know, there isn’t much out there right now. But I’m going to give it one and a half stars. That’s pretty weak. I’m not saying it’s an awful movie. I’m saying it’s… not very entertaining it just isn’t uh political i’m going to take it down one and a half just because of the stereotypes they bang away on on that drum it’s kind of like you know guys you just don’t get it right okay um moral religious i’ll give it a three no big deal either way it doesn’t preach Do I recommend going to Wolfman? No, I don’t. But I will say this. For those who are into horror, into horror, I’m going to tell you, you’re not seeing Megan here. You’re not seeing Black Phone. You’re not seeing Fall. You’re not seeing something that’s really well made and gripping. But you are seeing some horror and it’ll do that for you. So why not?
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Yesterday’s question of the day, which two months of the year are named after mortal men? It is July and August. July and August. Today’s impossible question.
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Yeah, actually, I knew August. My brother’s name is August. Gus.
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Ah, there you go.
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Okay, go ahead.
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Today’s a possible question. What is the name of the private, all-male, historically black college located in Atlanta, Georgia, which is the alma mater of Martin Luther King Jr., Spike Lee, and Edwin Moses? Any thoughts? No one? No one? Okay. I don’t know. I wouldn’t have guessed this one.
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No, honestly, John, I don’t know college names that well. I’d have to look it up.
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I don’t either. I’d have to look this one up. Anyway, answer that on our Facebook page if you would like to. We would appreciate that greatly. We’ve got about four or five minutes here left of this hour, Andy. Then we’ll come back to NFL picks and movies with blondes. Yes, and I did that in honor of Pam Bondi. Who did well this week. Oh, she did a great job. Despite the knuckleheads questioning her.
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Yeah, and Pam Bondi is not super smooth. The one who was just devastating was Rubio. I mean, so smooth, so fast.
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He’s one of them. That’s easy for him.
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Well, there’s that. But they could ask him any question about any place on Earth. you know, Secretary of State, and he immediately, he is, I think, probably the most knowledgeable and qualified Secretary of State we’ve had since Kissinger.
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Did they throw bombs at him by chance? I think because they didn’t watch any of it.
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They didn’t even try. They gave up quick. They knew it didn’t matter what they threw at him. You know, everybody does the same. They’re all trying to say, are you two connected to Trump and this? And it’s just like, after a while, it’s like, guys, being connected to Trump and an ally of Trump is not an evil thing. No. That actually just won. Okay. And by the way, you guys are all connected to Biden. Right. You’re all connected to Obama. Is that a sin? It’s ridiculous. When they were asking Pam Bondi, would you, you know, if Trump asked you to break the law and she’s just like, if I thought he would do that, I wouldn’t take the position. Wouldn’t be here. Yeah.
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Oh, Andy.
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She did a great job.
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Some of the questions that they throw out, I just think to myself, okay, first of all, that’s not your question because you’re not even that smart to come up with that question. But number two, you’re just a puppet. Yeah. And a dumb one at that.
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Right. You’re a coordinated group of puppets. And it was just, I thought it was embarrassing. I think the Democrats are just setting themselves back further and further and further right now.
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The best one with her, by the way, was Shifty Shift. Oh, yeah. Just putting him in his place.
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Yeah. It was awful. I mean, it was great. I loved it.
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He would have been better off not saying anything.
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Yeah.
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Because he got tortured with her.
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He was outgunned. Well, he always is. He was outgunned. I don’t know why he was trying that line of reasoning, that line of questioning. And she ate him alive. She just made him look… Stupid. Petty, stupid. She did.
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You’re right.
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And it was just like, you know, dude… Look, America just voted you guys out because you guys weaponized government. Right. Okay? And here, all you guys are complaining about is you’re saying to all these nominees, are you going to weaponize government? No, we’re not going to be you. We’re replacing you. Right. Do you understand?
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It’s a changing of the guard.
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Yeah. And by the way, you’re saying, are we going to go after Trump’s enemies? Look, if they’ve committed a bunch of crimes and that’s what the evidence says, then yes. They’re the same as any other American.
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I thought all of them, even though Pete wasn’t quite as polished because he hasn’t been around some of that stuff like the others, even he did well with all of that because, again, some of the questions even thrown at him were just stupid.
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I thought Pete did a fine job, given what he was going through. But one last thing, then we’ll go to break. Pam, Rubio, and them, the fact that all they could do is go after a connection with Trump, what that shows is this. They had nothing on them and their character. They didn’t bring up anything with their character at all. Why? Because they’re spotless.
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We are back on the flower coming your way again. We’ll do NFL picks and then movies with blondes. If you’ve got some suggestions, and that’s a broad one.
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By the way, it could be smart blondes, dumb blondes. We don’t care. Because I think we can say Bondi is a smart blonde.
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I think you could definitely. After this week, you could definitely say that. So 307-282-22 is our text line. Text us your favorite movies. We’ll add them to the list. Otherwise, we’ll be right back. Don’t go anywhere. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Thank you. The Rich Guy.
