Kim invites listeners to explore the power of courage and skill through the remarkable story of Charles S. Kettles, who valiantly risked his life during the Vietnam War to save others. This tale of bravery sets the stage for a wider conversation on personal responsibility and freedom in modern America. As national discourse tears through various controversial topics, Kim emphasizes the importance of fact-based narratives and informed citizenry. The show also features sponsor Lavaca Meat Company, fortifying the conversation around food freedom and market dynamics, cementing the episode as a compelling dialogue on the balance between personal choices and
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Great to be here as always, Kim. Thanks.
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And we’ve got a great show. A lot’s going on out there right now, Alan Thomas.
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Just a little bit, right? Both here with the new legislation and then also with President Trump and everything he’s doing in his first two weeks.
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He is certainly, I would say he’s a disruptor right now. What do you think?
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Yeah. And, you know, we’re going to talk about that in the second half of the show. But he he came in and he knew what he wanted to do.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, it might have been a little bit of a blessing, unbeknownst to all of us, to endure the last four years. But he has a mission and he is getting after it.
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He is truly getting after it. And so we’re in a historical time. Yesterday, General Joe Arbuckle was on. We talked about the military and the positive things that are happening there. But we are in a dangerous time. The Biden-Harris administration has put us in a very dangerous spot on the world stage. And so there isn’t a lot of time to take action. We’ve got to be taking action now. And he certainly is.
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And he’s creating that distinction pretty quick. I mean, it’s pretty incredible to see as soon as the election happened, how quickly the international stage even changed, which should indicate to all of America the danger of this progressive ideology, like you said, of the prior administration. It truly is a battlefield of ideas, and it was almost immediate how the international community reacted to our elections.
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Well, Trudeau, gone. Yeah, it’s pretty remarkable.
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Hamas, Israel, I mean, you saw it all the way down across Latin America. We see it in Europe with the Ukraine and Russia war. All of a sudden, they’re like, hey, let’s get back to the table. Our ideas truly do have consequences, and for the ideas that we espouse, they’re the right type of consequences.
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Yes, and so we’re in a remarkable time, a historic time. So let’s get into some of the things that we do every day. First thing is the word of the day. And I’m pulling this because Ross Clough yesterday, my fellow Liberty Toastmaster, was talking. I thought it was so interesting when I hear all these different ideas about things. We were talking about facts and opinion and propaganda and how to know the difference. And he used the word juxtaposition. And it could mean the actor in an instance of placing two or more things side by side, often to compare or contrast or to create an interesting effect. Or number two, the fact of two things being seen or placed close together with contrasting effect. And so it is spelled J-U-X-T-A-P-O-S-I-T-I-O-N. And your challenge is to use juxtaposition in a sentence today. So were you listening yesterday? Did you hear that part?
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I didn’t, but I do have a sentence for you with juxtaposition.
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Do you?
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It was interesting seeing the juxtaposition of two Democrats yesterday, one of them being interviewed, the other interviewing between RFK Jr. and the panel. It was very interesting seeing that contrast side by side of some of the more common sense health realities that RFK Jr., a Democrat, has versus what the panel, what the Democrats on the panel were grilling him for. And the fact that he said, Hey, you guys used to be my friends four years ago. It was very interesting seeing that juxtaposition.
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Well done. And I tried to watch it, but I only caught some of the highlights, too.
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But it was very fascinating, you know, especially when you look at the evolution of the Democrat Party and especially where it was in like the 70s and 80s. And now what they’re advocating for, for big pharma, for big tech. You know, it’s kind of ironic that they have shifted so heavily, which was predictable. I mean, that’s what progressives want. They’re hand in hand with with big companies because that’s how you can regulate people.
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Republicans are, too. We’ve got some Republicans that have have are being financed by some of this, these big pharma and big companies as well. And I did. I don’t think I saw it when I was watching and I did. I just couldn’t continue on. You could see the agenda of abortion and vaccine mandates and all that stuff with all of the questioning. And do you think he’s going to get confirmed? What do you think?
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I don’t know. It’ll be interesting. I mean, I think he definitely had some of the right answers. It’s clear that that Donald Trump has talked to all of his nominees. You know, he learned his lesson from the first administration and he said, I’m going to get my people and I’m going to make sure my people understand my agenda. I thought RFK’s answer about abortion was very interesting because he is pro-choice on the record. But he said, no, we should not federally fund this. I found that very fascinating that he fully supports Trump’s vision. And I hope he sticks to that because there are some ideas that RFK Jr. has that are very Democrat.
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Yeah, I know. It’s going to be super interesting to watch all this. And then also Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel had their confirmation hearings as well. And I just saw a little bit of that. Tulsi Gabbard is just, she’s a real, I’d say a cool cucumber. She just is. Yeah.
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And again, just like RFK Jr., I think the veil is being lifted about how dangerous our national apparatus can be when it can be turned against everyday people. And we first saw it with Trump when the whole thing about him being spied upon by the Obama administration came to light, everybody said, oh, OK, that’s kind of worrisome. But then I saw her her beginning speech when she said, hey, I was listed on this. I was I was as soon as I started not walking lockstep with the Democrat Party, they turned national apparatus against me. And that’s dangerous for everybody. And that should really strike a fear in the heart of every American. Hey, if this can be turned against these politicians, don’t kid yourself that can be turned against us as well.
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Absolutely. And yes, definitely. And So to get this whole thing turned back, we truly, I believe we are in the third founding of our country. And asking who we’re really going to be. And I know that you are stepping forward to do some things about that. So we’ll talk about that in a little bit. Let’s get over here, though, next to our quote of the day. And this is on Fridays. As you know, I go to the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And the center is located there. in Pueblo, Colorado, and one of the things that they do is they honor our Medal of Honor recipients. They have their Portraits of Valor, which they are absolutely fabulous portraits with these quotes of our Medal of Honor recipients, and that’s over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients. Today’s quote, and you can get that book by going to AmericanValueCenter.org, is from Charles S. Kettles. And he was born in 1930. He died in 2019. This was action taken during the Vietnam War, May 15, 1967. And it is a long citation, so I’m going to read part of it, and I’m going to have you read part of it. Okay, Alan? I’ll read the first part. It says, Major Charles S. Kettles distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity while serving as flight commander, 176th Aviation Company, which is Air Mobile Light, the 14th Combat Aviation Battalion, Americal Division near Dufo, Republic of Vietnam. On 15 May 1967, Major Kettles, upon learning that an airborne infantry unit had suffered casualties during an intense firefight with the enemy, immediately volunteered to lead a flight of six UH-1D helicopters to carry reinforcements to the embattled force and to evacuate wounded personnel. Enemy small arms, automatic weapons, and mortar fire raked the landing zone, inflicting heavy damage to the helicopters. However, major kettles refused to depart until all helicopters were loaded to capacity. He then returned to the battlefield with full knowledge of the intense enemy fire awaiting his arrival to bring more reinforcements, landing in the midst of enemy mortar and automatic weapons fire that seriously wounded his gunner and severely damaged his aircraft. Upon departing, Major Kettles was advised by another helicopter crew that he had fuel streaming out of his aircraft. Despite the risk posed by the leaking fuel, he nursed the damaged aircraft back to base. Later that day, the infantry battalion commander requested immediate emergency extraction of the remaining 40 troops, including four members of Major Kettle’s unit who were stranded when their helicopter was destroyed by enemy fire.
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With only one flyable UH-1 helicopter remaining, Major Kettles volunteered to return to the deadly landing zone for a third time, leading a flight of six evacuation helicopters, five of which were from the 161st Aviation Company. During the extraction, Major Kettles was informed by the last helicopter that all personnel were on board and departed the landing zone accordingly. Army gunships supported the evacuation also departed the area. Once airborne, Major Kettles was advised that eight troops had been unable to reach the evacuation helicopters due to the intense enemy fire. With complete disregard for his own safety, Major Kettles passed the lead to another helicopter and returned to the landing zone to rescue the remaining troops. Without gunship, artillery, or tactical aircraft support, the enemy concentrated all firepower on his lone aircraft, which was immediately damaged by a mortar round that shattered both front windshields and the chin bubble and was further raked by small arms and machine gun fire. Despite the intense enemy fire, Major Kettles maintained control of the aircraft and situation, allowing time for the remaining eight soldiers to board the aircraft. In spite of the severe damage to his helicopter, Major Kettles once more skillfully guided his heavily damaged aircraft to safety. Without his courageous actions and superior flying skills, the last group of soldiers and his crew would never have made it off the battlefield. Major Kettles’ selfless acts of repeated valor and determination are in keeping of the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself and the United States Army.
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I got chills on that.
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I mean, that’s pretty remarkable. And, you know, it’s interesting how many of these are both courage and skill and knowing that, you know, they highlight it here at the end. He skillfully guided his heavily damaged helicopter. It’s that combination of not reckless courage, but knowing courage, right? Knowing that I have the ability to do this and I’m going to do it.
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It’s absolutely remarkable. But training, practice, hard work, all those things come into the skill and the courage. So pretty remarkable. And I recommend that you get the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values at AmericanValuesCenter.org. And this is his quote. He said, there is no price too high for an individual to pay that contributes to the preservation of this great nation. So that is our quote of the day. And then the other thing I wanted to hit was our bill of the day. Where did I put that? Oh, here we go. It is I didn’t put the number on that. It is the prohibition of cultivated meat. And Representative Ty Winter and Senator Rod Pelton are sponsors of that. And I appreciate the spirit of protecting our beef industry because certainly it has been under attack, and that’s real beef. And so this is prohibiting fake beef, basically. I understand it. But at Cut, we ended up taking a no position on this. And it really is that freedom answer. And we were mixed on the issue between the free market and possible health risks. But ultimately, our position came down to let the free market regulate this industry. Because if we start to have government prohibit things, then they may get to the point where they may prohibit the things that we like as well, right?
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Exactly. You know, and this was the other interesting highlight from that RFK Jr. hearing, actually. He said, hey, if you want to buy McDonald’s, that’s fine. But let’s allow the freedom of information so that the consumer knows what they’re getting. Right. He said, if you buy a cheeseburger from McDonald’s, you should know how that’s going to impact your health. And I think. that’s what CUT is saying here. Hey, we don’t want the government telling us what we can and can’t have. But at the same time, there should be something telling us, hey, this is what you’re getting. And everyone should understand that this beyond meat, all the additives, all the fillers that it has, it has a lot. And it is concerning what it could actually do to your health. And As a longtime beef supporter, I mean, my father-in-law is a meat processor, so I definitely lucked out on the family there to marry into that. But there’s great health benefits in beef, and the fact that this industry is under attack is pretty sad.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, shouldn’t have to force people to do it. Show comes to you because of all of your support as well as our great sponsors. And thank you to the Harris family. for their goal sponsorship of the show. They’ve been with us a long time and really appreciate them. Alan Thomas, my friend, is in studio. He’s an author here at the Kim Munson Show. And pleased to have on the line Rich Guggenheim. He is with Gays Against Groomers. And I want to get his title close to correct. He’s the national director or liaison on all legislative stuff. Give me the official title, Rich Guggenheim.
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He became its director of legislation.
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I was close, but it’s for the complete country, right? Yep. Okay. Well, you’re a little busy.
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Yeah, I just looked at the numbers yesterday. We’re tracking 336 bills in 32 states right now, plus we’ve got about a handful of them now we’re working on federally. Wow. Plus a lot of executive orders now.
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So just quickly, before we get into the issue we wanted to talk with you about, what do you think about everything that Donald Trump is doing?
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I think it’s great. But, you know, I was just talking the other day, I was talking with some people. This is the practice game. This is not the real stuff yet. To secure these freedoms, we have to do it. through the legislative process, and ultimately a lot of these issues come down to states’ rights. And so we are going to have to fight to codify this legislatively at the state level in every single state and states like Colorado that don’t want to play and protect girls’ sports and protect children from being mutilated. We’re going to have to sue them in court. We’re going to just have to go the litigation route.
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Okay. So with that, you speak of legislation. Colorado, I think, Rich Guggenheim, is at the tip of the spear on much of this. And so Monday, there’s a bill that’s going to be run that you are very concerned about.
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I am, yes. Monday at the Capitol, if people can show up, I would appreciate that. It’s the LGBT Lobby Day at the Capitol hosted by One Colorado, and Representative Lorena Garcia intends to introduce what she is calling the Transgender Bill of Rights. And I’m very concerned about that because when I look at what transgender rights really means, it means compelled speech. It means stripping women, females, of their right to privacy and safety and fairness in sports. It strips parents of their rights. In fact, there’s a couple of bills that they’re running right now that creates an interstate compact for Colorado to bring in foster care children into Colorado where they can receive gender-affirming care. So I have huge concerns about that. It compels, like I said, it really comes down to stripping children of their freedom to grow up and live happy, healthy lives because we enshrine protections and to law to allow them access to these things. And, you know, children at that age don’t have the logic center of the brain developed. They can’t make these life altering decisions and understand the complications and the consequences of doing something like this. So I’m deeply concerned about this.
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What’s that bill number on that? Rich Guggenheim, do you have that at your fingertips?
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I don’t have it at my fingertips. Are you talking about the ones for the foster care bill? So the foster care bill is a different one then? The foster care are two new ones that just got introduced, and I do not have the bill at the fingertips on those. And then the transgender bill of rights, they’re keeping that under lock and seal because they’re having a big press conference on Monday, too. display it to the public.
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Okay. So there’s the strategies in all this. And you think the sponsor, do you think you know who the sponsor is on that again?
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It’s for Reyna Garcia.
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Okay. Okay. So what’s going to happen? When you and I were texting each other back and forth, you said you need to clone yourself. Why do you need to clone yourself?
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Well, so Monday morning while that’s going on, Monday morning in Wyoming is also two bills that I’ve been working on. with a legislator up there and these bills will ban children from participating or viewing in adult cabaret style shows with purient intent. That’s a fancy way of saying banning children from being able to view or participate in drag shows. And we’re also going to make it so that libraries are not, school libraries are not allowed to and schools are not allowed to distribute material with adult content or sexual content and graphic content to children. I believe that schools and libraries and schools and classrooms and schools should be places that are educational. And this is not a way to protect a child’s innocence. This is not about being inclusive. This is about making sure that they’re learning and they’re not being exposed to subjects. and content that they simply cannot process at that age. We shouldn’t be sexualizing children. We shouldn’t be indoctrinating children. We should be educating children.
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So what do you say, Rich Guggenheim, when you are accused of book banning?
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Well, first of all, my thought is that’s ironic coming from people who try to silence me for simply saying that we should protect children’s innocence. This isn’t about book banning. If you want to allow your child to read that kind of stuff, you can take them to the local bookstore and you can buy that book for them and you can check it out at the local library. Like I said, this is just about schools. So this isn’t a book ban. This is literally saying children do not need to be exposed to pornography.
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You think? Yeah, I think that’s true. And when these images are impressed upon their brains, that’s a lifelong thing. And those that are pushing this agenda, they know that, Rich Guggenheim. They know what they’re doing.
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Absolutely. And they know that this opens up the doors to other things. It normalizes certain types of behavior. And I think it’s done on purpose because I believe at the end of the day, this is what they want to do is they want to desensitize our children to this type of material because it makes it so that they become easier victims for child sex predators.
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So that brings up this one other thing that you mentioned. Many years ago, I was on the board of Lutheran Family Services. And I joined the board because I’d seen a very successful adoption process. The other things, they were in the foster care business, the refugee resettlement. That’s a whole other subject. But as I learned so much about our foster children, our foster kids really are at risk. And what I am hearing with this foster bill that’s going to be coming down the pike here is these kids, I think, are going to be real victims because you really need to have adults that are standing in the gap for these children. And if, in fact, we’re going to be bringing foster children into Colorado to push the trans agenda,
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um this is really heartbreaking to me um rich guggenheim it is to me too and you know i’ll tell you what breaks my heart about it is last year they already passed i believe it was house bill 1017 that really infringed upon the freedoms of foster parents you know you’re not allowed to basically parent and guide those children in any kind of way. You’re just basically there to rephrase what Representative Brian Titone said. You’re basically there to just provide a shelter for those children and to warehouse them for the state. And I just, you know, this is what we’ve basically done is we’ve dehumanized these children under the guise of being inclusive. And this is wrong. These are children, a lot of times they come from situations where there’s a lot of dysfunction in the house. They’re dealing with some sort of emotional trauma and they need guidance and they need nurturing and they need those parents that can help teach them right from wrong. And this is just, to me, the fact that we’re taking vulnerable children And it’s literally, in my opinion, it’s predatory. And it is a form of human trafficking because we’re bringing them across state lines. And then we’re going to send them off to some medical clinic where they’re going to be mutilated and sterilized under the idea of being inclusive and affirming.
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Rich Guggenheim, if you would have in the old days said an enemy comes into the town and they say, hey, give me your kids. We’re going to cut off the girl’s breasts, cut off the boy’s penises. We would say that is barbaric. But that is exactly what is happening right now in our society. And I thank you for stepping forward, stepping into the gap on this. I know you can use help because you’re traveling around doing a variety of things. How can people help you, Rich Guggenheim?
SPEAKER 08 :
If they want to help, they can always go to our website, gaysagainstgroomers.com, and they can donate. The other thing, Kim, I’ll just say this. We need people to step up and fight for their children. If you don’t have time to step up and fight to protect your children at the Capitol, you’re going to have to find time later to step up and fight for them in court because the state is coming for your children. And I’m not speaking hyperbolically. I really believe that we’re going to see a lot more of that with this Transgender Bill of Rights. If you don’t want to speak and testify, just show up to support those who do. And I’ll tell you, Kim, if you’ve ever been at the Capitol, it’s a dark place. It’s spiritually draining because this is spiritual warfare. If you’re one of the people who believe in prayer, please come to the Capitol and pray. Pray for the people who are making these decisions. Pray for the people who are speaking. and testifying because this is something that requires a lot of energy and it is like i said it’s a spiritual warfare and it is emotionally spiritually and physically exhausting to be in the capital well rich guggenheim thank you for stepping into the gap on this i greatly appreciate it and we will need to get an update again very soon so thank you thank you kim have a great weekend
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Indeed, it is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out my website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. It’s Friday, Mike. you might treat yourself to a lunch, a lunch special at Hooters Restaurants. They have wonderful specials Monday through Friday, and they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. So give them a call or check out their website and just treat yourself to lunch today on one of those great specials. Alan Thomas, we’ve got a lot to talk about. So you are an author here at The Kim Munson Show, and you are running… You’re running for an office. And I actually got an email from someone that is endorsing you. And they had a great description of much of the work that you’ve done with us and your essays, which are awesome. So tell us a little bit about this.
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Well, Kim, I have to also say thank you to you for giving me complete editorial control over everything that I do. I know sometimes I kind of surprise you with some of the content, but we always have good conversations. But yeah, I’m running for first vice chair for the Douglas County GOP and, you know, one of the One of the things that we’re severely lacking in our country is civic education. And that’s what I try and get across a lot on the show is not only talking about, but also trying to teach these foundational principles to people that are receptive to them, but also maybe to sometimes people who aren’t. You know, I had that piece, Accidental Conservatives, about Taylor Swift in some of the Disney movies of, you know, hey, there’s a fundamental truth to what we believe in. And when we just talk about that truth, it’s going to come through and we’re slowly going to start to win people over. So, and you know, when I first started the show, you always called me a millennial, right? That was something I always kind of pushed back on. But, you know, when you look at a lot of The GOP in Colorado, there’s a severe lack of millennial involvement. And a lot of that is the infighting. A lot of that is just not creating an atmosphere that’s welcoming to millennials. And we’re going to be the next generation of leadership. And if we don’t start bringing those people into our party, if we don’t start bringing the next generations in and teaching them and influencing them, we’re going to be in a world of hurt here in Colorado. And we already are.
SPEAKER 04 :
I am seeing a number of young millennial men particularly and I really think that the straight The Caucasian millennial man has been at the bottom of the food chain, if you will, on so many different things. And I think that it’s been very refreshing from what I’ve seen looking outside in. Joe Rogan has been really influential, I think, in this particular arena. And, of course, apparently, Barron Trump had recommended to Donald Trump – to go on the Joe Rogan show. And you can’t hide in a three-hour interview. I think that’s why Kamala Harris didn’t do it. But I think that there are forces out there that are moving towards Our conservative preserving our ideas, this idea of America that we’re all created equal with rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And I really think that we can coalesce around those ideas. We just have to be able to communicate them.
SPEAKER 14 :
We do. And that’s part of what’s going on in the GOP here in Colorado is this purity litmus test, right? This inability to influence people and persuade them and instead beat them over the head with a stick and say, you’re not doing good enough. You’re not part of us. You are a rhino. And that’s ineffective at getting our message out because like you said, it’s not persuasive. And And we’re seeing a return to virtue, and that’s something we’ve talked about a lot, these three civic virtues of self-assertion, self-restraint, and self-reliance. And we’re starting to see the Joe Rogans, the other straight white males say, no, I need to assert myself. I need to step out here because if I’m not willing to stand up for myself, how can I expect my kids to stand up for themselves? Mm-hmm. And how am I supposed to protect my children if I’m unable or unwilling to speak up and protect those who need to be protected? So, you know, it’s returning to that. And that’s some of the brilliance of what Donald Trump is doing in these first two weeks is this self-assertion. And one of the first things I talked about was the rhetoric involved in a lot of his executive orders is quite honestly brilliant. Um, you know, we talked about, uh, gays against groomers with rich Guggenheim and, and one of the executive orders that is just a rhetorical masterpiece is his, uh, defending women from gender ideological extremism and restoring biological truth to the federal government. And we can’t highlight this enough. Like the, the fact that he said biological truth, uh, The fact that you can’t escape from truth and that he’s restoring it and he’s protecting people from their ideology extremism can’t be highlighted enough. It can’t be highlighted enough that we are not the party of extremes. We’re the party of normal. I love that.
SPEAKER 04 :
The party of normal extremism.
SPEAKER 14 :
We are. I mean, the fact that we have to have an executive order saying men are men, women are women, and you can’t pretend to be one or the other shows us how far we’ve gone as a culture. But it also should give us Republicans the ability to assert ourselves in the public sphere and say, you know what? Enough is enough. We’re playing by the left’s rules. We’re not going to do it any longer. We’re not going to bend our our language to make you happy. We’re going to start speaking truth, and we’re going to start standing up and saying, enough is enough. What we say is right, and I’m not going to be scared to assert myself anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, Alan, one of the things, and you mentioned this, and this is where I’ve struggled. You mentioned the purity test, and What is and as the president of CUT and also even before and when I was on city council, I really think that there were those that were on city council at that time in Douglas County. You had to have an R behind your name to get elected. But when I got on to city council, I saw an agenda regarding the transit, regarding these apartment buildings. You can look at Lone Tree and you can see the World Economic Forum agenda with all of these apartment buildings and transit. And so I was scratching my head because I thought people were honest if they said they were Republican, that they adhered to these this big picture values of our country. But yet and it’s on both sides of the aisle. But I really think that there are some people and I see even down at the legislature with a few Republicans, they are pushing a. A Democrat agenda. And you can kind of look at the money. Some of them have been supported by Kent Theory, who he really wants to mess with our elections. So I’m struggling with that because when I look at legislation, they’re doing Democrat stuff. So what do we do about that?
SPEAKER 14 :
One of the things you’ve kind of one of the one of your rules that you’ve kind of had for a long time is you’ll call out actions, not people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that’s what cut does is, you know, when we were talking about this prohibition on cultivated meat, you talked about the bill and why the bill is a bad idea. Instead of talking about, oh, we have representatives who have absolutely abandoned us. They must be rhinos. They don’t stand for conservatism at all. You’re calling out the bill, which is absolutely the right way to go about it. Okay. Is calling out the actions and attacking the ideas and saying, here’s why this idea may not necessarily fall in line. Here’s the danger of this idea, as opposed to calling out the person. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, I got it. I got it. And I have to say the two sponsors on that bill are representatives that I my experience with them has really been that they were really work to do the right thing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Ty Winter and Rod Pelton are I mean. They’re in a very thankless position right now in Colorado. And they propose a lot of good bills. But like you said, this bill may not be one of them. Because again, if you’re giving the permission for the state to say no to one thing, you’re opening up the doors. Which is ironically the second part of the article I talk about is the executive orders and national emergencies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, well, let’s talk about that when we come back. And I did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. I so love them, the Center for American Values. But it is so important to have these memorials that we remember and we honor. And it’s so great that we have the Marine Memorial right here in Colorado. It was dedicated in 77. And we need to make the remodel a reality. And you can help them. Put that on your list of memorials. nonprofits to support this 2025. You can get more information, see what they’re up to by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then for everything regarding mortgages and new mortgage, second mortgage, mortgage, reverse mortgage, reach out to Lorne Levy. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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SPEAKER 04 :
It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And Alan Thomas is in studio. And we are going to be, within the next six to eight weeks, rolling out something that’s going to be super great. You and I are going to be working together on that. So we’ll keep that as a teaser. But you are running for an office on the Douglas County GOP website. And when is that election? Tell us just a little bit more about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Monday. So it’ll be Monday, February 3rd. I think credentialing starts at 5, so make sure and get there early. It’s supposed to start at 6, but as you know, on those sorts of things, the start time is kind of dependent on how quickly they can check people in. So running for first vice chair, so the roles of that is communication. which fits pretty well into the wheelhouse here, but then also fundraising.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And who can vote?
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s precinct committee people, district captains, assistant district captains, and then elected officials within the county. So you should have gotten a… a call to order if you are allowed to vote in that. And then at that, you’re electing the Douglas County officers, but then also district captains. So, you know, holding your district captains accountable and making sure that they’re doing what’s right by the party as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So, well, good luck on that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, thank you very much, Kim.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, let’s finish. Well, we won’t finish this up. We’ll have our teaser for your essay that we will feature in the email this week and on the website. So let’s talk a little bit more about it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and you know, Rich actually kind of had a pretty good lead in on it as well about the fact that some of these executive orders are good, but the work’s not done, right? And this is one thing we’ve now seen twice within four years is a president come into office and use executive order to completely obliterate all of the work that was done. You know, Joe Biden on day one basically said, hey, I’m going to take all of Trump’s first term and write all of his executive orders away. And appropriately, Trump did the same this time around. But like Rich said, that’s not good enough. This ruling by executive order, this massive transition in the direction of our government isn’t healthy for citizens. It’s not healthy for us on the international stage. And so Trump and the Republicans in Congress really need to sit down and do some quick work like they’ve shown with the bill that they’ve already passed. But they need to codify a lot of these executive orders through Congress, do it the right way, do it the long-term way. And the Republicans in Congress need to get behind a lot of these actions and support it, which we’ve seen a lot of. We’ve seen a lot more support from Congress than we saw that first term of Trump’s, where Congress in large part fought Trump. But this second time around, I think these representatives and senators are seeing, hey, I’m in my position now because of President Trump, because of his vision, because people are saying, we need that, we want that. And so they need to be motivated, especially these first two years, to really codify these executive orders into the congressional go through the bill process and do it the right way that way when the pendulum swings again whether that’s in four years or eight years or hopefully longer but when another progressive democrat gets in office they can’t just use the pen in the office of president to completely change the course of our country
SPEAKER 04 :
And I think this is an opportunity for congressmen and women senators to make the case, as you mentioned, to stay on these issues. So regarding these deportations, they’ve been pretty amazing to watch. But the immigration system is broken. They say all the time the immigration system is broken. We can fix it. But many times they don’t want to make the hard decisions because they want to get reelected. I think that they can actually make the case for the good idea, and I would encourage them to have the courage to do so.
SPEAKER 14 :
And this is where we as citizens can come into play and say, listen, you need to do this. This is why I voted you in. I voted you in to support this idea that Trump is saying around immigration. You need to fix this. This is why we voted you in. And really show your elected representatives, hey – The reason you’re going to get voted in in two years or in six years for senators is because you’re going to do the hard work and do the change and do the things that may not that you don’t think is popular. So basically, we need to show our elected representatives it is popular. It is a path to reelection. And we need to support them in that and use our voice to say, hey, I want you to get after this. I want you to do that. I want you to, you know, instead of Donald Trump needing to declare a national emergency around energy or around the southern border, I don’t want the executive to have so much power that they declared national emergencies just to do their job. This is something Congress should say, OK, this is popular. This national emergency around energy is popular. We need to make sure that the next president can’t undo what we are currently doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
And absolutely. And that makes me, I had a headline here that I had wanted to mention to you. This was climate change overestimated. New data shows oceans are cooling the planet faster than predicted. And so we can get into this battle of idea. Of course, I should mention A Climate Conversation. That’s a great segue for the documentary that Walt Johnson, it was his vision and he financed. Because I think people are realizing reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy allows us to power our lives, fuel our hopes and dreams. And I have a new one, Alan. I don’t know if you’ve heard this. We can change our own personal climate. We can be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I love that because between my two kids, they have very different climates that they appreciate in their rooms. So…
SPEAKER 04 :
That is funny. But we’re going to focus on the issues. The other thing, though, is it’s almost like they are just flooding the zone here in Colorado. So with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And we’d really encourage that you join us. We’ve got something very exciting, I think, that’s going to happen here quite very soon. So join us. It’s only $25. But as of this morning, we have a total of 266 bills that are proposed. That’s flooding the zone. How do we keep track of that? One of the first things is be a member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. But they’re flooding the zone on this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and that’s one of the things, again, I think the county party should be doing a better job of is helping educate Republican voters throughout the county, throughout the state and saying we have such great resources. You know what what cut does, what you do on the show, what our representatives do. You know, most of the representatives have their own newsletter saying, here’s what we’re trying to do. You know, we have the Independence Institute pushing out stuff. It’s getting these resources into the hands of Republican voters saying, hey, you know, talk to your friends, talk to your neighbors, talk to your coworkers and show them this is the crazy that’s going on at the statehouse. This is the stuff going on. that forces you to have to be involved. You know, a lot of times people say, I don’t want to be involved in politics. It’s messy. It’s like, well, yeah, it is messy. And it’s even more messy when you don’t get involved, when you don’t speak up, when you don’t use your voice. And our ideas aren’t crazy. All right. We’re the party of yes. We want to say yes to so much freedom, to allowing you to live your life, to get the out and into its proper role. And we need to allow Republican voters the strength and the opportunity to say, hey, you know, this is what they’re doing. This isn’t right. This doesn’t make sense. Can we just do things that make sense?
SPEAKER 04 :
And I think that’s the way that we will bring unaffiliated voters into the fold, because I think we can can coalesce around this this idea of freedom, liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. This is a great piece that you’ve written and spot on. I wish you a lot of great. Now you’re going to stay for the next hour.
SPEAKER 14 :
I will. Yes, ma’am.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, so stay for our number two. So just 45 seconds. Wrap it up.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, Kim, you know, it’s kind of funny. The last bit of the article is about how he talked about the forgotten Alaska. So make sure and read the article. Read what he’s trying to do with that and the renaming of Mount McKinley. And, you know, just this is our opportunity. We have some momentum here. Let’s seize it. Let’s use it. And don’t be scared to use your voice. Be out there and make sure and support your representatives and your senators and really – back them because they’re doing a pretty thankless job down there at the Capitol. And as we well know, you know, negative comments linger in your mind a lot longer than positive ones. And we really need to flood the zone of their inboxes saying, keep up the good work, keep fighting the fight, keep up with those late nights down at the Capitol trying to oppose these horrible, awful bills. And we have your back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Most definitely. So Alan Thomas, thank you. Thank you for the work that you’re doing. And our quote for the end of the show, I went to Thucydides, a Greek philosopher. He said this, happiness depends on being free and freedom depends on being courageous. So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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SPEAKER 03 :
It’s a headache and a half, but it always is when you change the software. And it’s kind of neat, but it’s definitely going to take some practice getting used to it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I know. What did you say? Alan Thomas is in studio. We were talking about that in between breaks. You said, what’s this about a software update?
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s always like ripping off a Band-Aid. You know you have to do it, but you don’t want to, and it hurts right when you do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Would that be appropriate, Joe?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And having to relearn everything because everything is so new now is just a headache and a half.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that’s awesome. I love the fact that Crawford Broadcasting, independent broadcasting company, is working to keep us right on the forefront. And did you see this? I got to see if I find there had been George Soros apparently had purchased a bunch of radio stations. And had you seen that by any chance?
SPEAKER 14 :
I haven’t, but it doesn’t sound surprising whatsoever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and he did this, oh, gosh, probably back in 2024. And he – here we go. This is New York Post. This is September 30, 2024. He purchased Odyssey radio stations. And, of course, that’s really of great concern. And – So anyway, my point is, is it’s great to have some independent broadcasters out there, Alan Thomas.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is. And isn’t it funny that when a Democrat progressive supporter buys stations, nothing’s said, but heaven forbid, if Elon Musk buys Twitter and says, Hey, I’ll allow people to talk, you know, the whole left goes crazy that, that these mega billionaires are buying up communication waves and, and Internet and all of this. And it’s like, you know what? There seems to be a double standard here that is difficult to get around. And, you know, we talked about the things Trump was doing in his first couple of weeks. What about him opening up the press room to a lot of the smaller news outlets and the independent news outlets? That was pretty amazing.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is pretty amazing. And I saw this on one of the evening shows. And this is from the Post Millennial. But it says a radio station owned by George Soros reported the live locations of undercover immigration customs and enforcement agents operating in San Jose, California, an area known for violent gang activity. And it says the incident occurred on January 26th when KCBS 740 AM reported. Radio host Brett Burkhardt, let’s see if I can get to the rest of this here, had actually warned about these ICE raids. And you didn’t see that on the mainstream media, did you?
SPEAKER 14 :
Nope, nope. But, you know, one of the things I’m loving about the new… secretary of position, I forget his name, but he’s basically saying, nope, we’re going to come after these violent criminals. And I mean, we saw it right away here in Colorado. All of a sudden, hey, we’re going to go get these guys that are invading apartments. And we saw that within the first week. I mean, what an incredible testament to Trump going out, getting the people that will support his vision and also enforce the rule of law. It does have consequences when the president is able to say, I have this authority by Congress given to me, and I’m going to use it. And it just shows how awful President Biden and Obama were in saying, no, I’m not going to do my just duty.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right. And I’ve got the rest of the story here. This was KCBS 740 AM radio host Brett Burkhart described the unmarked vehicles being used by ICE in the exact locations where ICE agents have been operating. Just think how that really puts them into danger. And he was relaying information posted to social media by the Rapid Response Network, a leftist group that fights deportation initiatives. News Nation confirmed on January 27 that ICE was conducting operations in the area at that time, meaning the host potentially blew the agent’s cover and put them in danger. That’s unconscionable.
SPEAKER 14 :
It truly is. And again, one of the sentences that Biden commuted was an individual that came up and shot law enforcement officers, point blank. So, you know, it’s no surprise that the left is against our law enforcement community. And we really need to come alongside them and say, no, we support the rule of law. We support you protecting our communities.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And so we’ll stay on top of some of these stories that you’re not hearing out there every place else. Two things. Our word of the day is juxtaposition. J-U-X-T-A-P-O-S-I-T-I-O-N. It means the act or instance of placing two or more things side by side, often to compare or contrast. And then our quote of the day was from our Medal of Honor speaker. quote book from the Center for American Values. And I’d like to share this. This came in from Dave, who is a retired United States Air Force. He said, and what you and I did, and you can hear this in the one to two hour. He said, your Medal of Honor segment today was incredible. That kind of valor is, well, I cannot find the word to describe it. I’ll be buying the book, making donation and visiting the center soon. Yours is an exceptional show. Long overdue donation is coming to you as well. Tears. As I write, I was close to tears as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
It really is. And I love being here on Fridays when we can read the Medal of Honor citations and really hear about these courageous men and women who truly have put their lives on the line for our freedoms.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it’s important to keep these stories alive and honor them. And that’s why I so appreciate the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado. And definitely put it on your bucket list to visit them. And a day that you might want to do that is February 12th, a Wednesday. beginning at 4 p.m. They will be doing an On Values presentation with Drew, founder of the Center for American Values. He was stationed in Greenland for a number of years. The title of the A presentation is The Real Cold War, which Greenland can be a little cold. And so you might want to check that out at AmericanValueCenter.org. You mentioned it’s Friday. So what that means, it’s Jim May Friday. It’s Lavaca Meat Company Friday. Jim May, cattleman with Lavaca Meat. Welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, good morning, Kim. And is that Alan Thomas? I hear his voice behind you. Is that right?
SPEAKER 04 :
That is Alan. We’re missing you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Morning, Jim.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s a Friday, and hopefully we’ll hear some poetry here soon, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, I’ll see what I can do there. So it’s been quite a week here, and, you know, this plane crash, and I’m just, gosh. You know, and I was listening to your show. I was telling Joe, I was in my workout room on the treadmill listening to your show, and really liking that stuff that you just talked about, of course, about the Army and everything. Yeah. I just, yeah, these people that are being interviewed for the cabinet, they’ve been really interesting to watch. You know, I’m in and out on them. I’m kind of like you guys. I can’t stare. I watch them all the time. I get a lot of the, but awfully good people, I think, around the president and his cabinet this time. And I’m glad to see the debate out there. I’m glad to see the strength of this man to just stand up and say where he’s at. There’s transparency in everything that we’re seeing, which is really refreshing. I don’t know. We had this plane crash two or three months ago. They probably said, we don’t know anything. We can’t say anything, blah, blah, blah. You feel like we, the people, are getting the information now. The new press secretary, I think, is amazing. And I’m just excited about this. I’m probably saying too much. Let’s talk a little bit about meat, Kim.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s do. And Lavaca Meat Company is a great protein source for your diet, but it tastes really good as well. And if people use the word buffalo and they’re in at Lavaca Meat Company, they’ll get 10% off, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, we’re going to do that running right up to the Super Bowl here now. And, you know, I hope maybe somebody wanted a Super Bowl party. My son does a slider thing. He just takes the Hawaiian buns and cuts them horizontally. And I think he’s got the recipe, but he ends up cooking the meat a little bit, and he rolls the meat out in a flat thing. And he cooks his hamburger, and he slides it onto those buns, puts a little cheese, and does each one differently. So it’s just one big piece of bread, puts the top on, puts the cheese in, and sticks them back in. He bakes the meat for another two or three minutes, and then you just take them out, cut them up, and you’ve got sliders for everybody.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yum.
SPEAKER 10 :
Full deal. Maybe I could put that out on your little line on the show there, on your website.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that would be great. We could put that in the show summary. And, again, Lavaca Meat Company is located at the corner of Main and Nevada. And the website is lavacameat.com, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Right on, yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Do you have a poem for us?
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, so I really haven’t written anything. I’m trying to get all these into my head. And I just got a couple calls on my phone. So this is going to be – I’m hoping it’s in my head by now. I wrote – you know what I’m going to do is I’m going to make a, another poetry book. And then next week is Superbowl Sunday. And that’s my first time on the show was the Friday before Superbowl.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
I have been here one whole year. Yay. Anniversary.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Been here one year doing this stuff. And, uh, I’ve written quite a few poems about holidays, as you know, and everything else. How much time do we have? I wanted to do this poem about woke is a joke, if I can still… Yep, do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s do it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’m going to try it. I don’t know if it’s in my head yet, but I refuse to be… Let me say, woke is a joke. Let me think about it for just a second. I refuse to be run over today by the left wing’s latest fad. I might be judged by what I say, but I’m not woke, so that’s too bad. I mostly mind my own business. I’m as tolerant as any man, but I’m not going to drink a Bud Light with a drag queen on the can. I’ve been farming and ranching for 50 years. I’m not going to play their game. Coors and Corona are pretty good beers. At least they haven’t gone insane. This whole world is just upside down. This whole world is just upside down. I’m sorry, guys. I don’t have this, and I’m imagining the phone rang, and I don’t have it in front of me. I think the whole world now is upside down, and I can’t believe my own two eyes. Joe Biden resigned. He’s such a clown. Look out. Here comes a pack of lies. They say they want to save the democracy. I guess if he quits, that’s a pretty good start. They don’t even need a primary. Everybody knows he’s really not that smart. Kamala will be their choice. It’s her turn to wear the crown. The mainstream media will be her voice. You know, she never got one vote the first time around. I hope they get… Let’s see. She was elected because of DEI. Diversity, equity, and inclusion. Her race and her gender will catch your eye, but the rest is just an illusion. I hope we get this figured out right. Because this is really no time to joke. Today, I will drink a cold Coors Light, and may the good Lord help you if you’re woke. And guys… I did not look at any paper on that. And my quest is to have all these things in my head and memorized. And sometimes when you’re talking to a lot of people on the radio or you’re in a big ballroom or something, you know, they’ve got to be burned in there pretty good, kind of like the Pledge of Allegiance or something. I get it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I get it.
SPEAKER 10 :
And that’s going to be the fun part. I’ll put that book out and different things. Enjoy your weekend. I really like your show, and Alan, I see eye to eye with about everything you’re saying, too. I should have been in the studio today, I guess.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, did you get snow? That was the other thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
We got a little skiff of snow out here. The ranch is, Kiowa got six to eight inches, I’m told, by my ranch manager, Mark.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, good.
SPEAKER 10 :
So we’re still in winter.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we are. Although I was on a walk the other night, and I kind of could smell early spring. So I think spring is right around the corner. Jim May, have a great week. We’ll talk to you next week.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, guys, you too. And everybody have a great week, and we’ll see you next time. Thanks.
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SPEAKER 04 :
It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And I got so busy reading the text from Dave regarding our Medal of Honor quote, that we shared earlier in hour number one with the citation of Charles S. Kettles, that I didn’t give you the quote of the day. And he said this, he said, there is no price too high for an individual to pay that contributes to the preservation of this great nation. And beautiful, just absolutely beautiful. Alan Thomas, I’m so pleased that you’ve stayed for hour number two. It all goes so fast.
SPEAKER 14 :
It truly does. We need like four or five hours.
SPEAKER 04 :
That we do. We could do the Joe Rogan, Kim Munson show. And I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is because of these great sponsors that we’re on the air and pleased to have on the line with me, Dr. Jill Vecchio. And she and I and Molly Vogt were together at the very beginning of all this. So, Dr. Jill Vecchio, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, thanks again for having me, Kim. Good morning, everybody. Good afternoon, I guess, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it will. Yes, it’ll be good evening when we rebroadcast this in the 10 to 11 hour tonight. And yes, we all started many years ago together just talking about I remember we looked at each other. We said, what are we going to talk about on that Sunday afternoon show? So we decided to talk about health care and then go through the Declaration and the Constitution. We all learned a lot on that, Dr. Jill.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, we really did. And you think about we studied Supreme Court decisions. We went through the Constitution phrase by phrase. And the declaration. I mean, it was an amazing learning experience. It took us a year and a half to get through it. And that was just a great time that I thoroughly enjoyed.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that was back in 2013, I think, when we started that. I think 14. Was it 14?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so you’re still watching health care, Dr. Jill Vecchio. And I thought, let’s talk about health care. That hasn’t really been an issue that we’ve talked a lot about on the national stage lately. But it is very important to people. And, of course, Obamacare moving us towards socialized medicine. We do have a… bill down at the Colorado State House that’s doing an analysis on a government-run health care system here in Colorado. So they’re not giving up. And, of course, Colorado’s the petri dish for trying all this stuff out. So what’s the macro view on health care right now, Dr. Joe Vacchio?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and it’s funny. I just watched all three and a half hours plus of the Senate confirmation hearings with RFK Jr. I watched that last night. Really interesting. I don’t know if they’ve had the vote on him or not. They were voting on something, but I’m not sure. Anyway, yeah, so now health care is going to come back into focus, I think, because the Republicans have an opportunity to right the ridiculous wrong that they did the last time they had full control of the White House and both houses of Congress. So hopefully they will do the right thing this time. But a lot of change needs to happen. And I think RFK Jr. is the perfect person to kind of wake people up to entirely new ideas and ways to approach the overall health care atmosphere in our country. And I think he’s willing to do that and anxious to do that. And he’s very, very, very knowledgeable, very knowledgeable. I’m always amazed if you do listen to some of those long, more long format podcasts and stuff with him talking about health care. He’s very well informed and very bold, not afraid to say what needs to be said or address things that need to be addressed that have been kicked down the road for so long.
SPEAKER 14 :
And Jill, did you see the exchange between RFK Jr. and Bernie Sanders about the, do you have a right to health care? I found RFK Jr.’ ‘s response brilliant.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, the simple answer is absolutely not. Do you have a right to food? Do you have a right to a car? No, because if you had a right to somebody, to a service or some product, that means somebody else would be obligated to pay for it for you. And you don’t have a right to take somebody else’s money. You don’t have a right to somebody else’s skills. Period. You don’t have that right. It’s nowhere in the Constitution that you don’t have a right to food, which is more health care and food. Come on. You don’t have a right to walk into a grocery store and take whatever you want and walk out. Now, do you? Would anybody claim that they have a right to do that? No. So, yeah, RFK, you know, when he was barely even allowed to get out the word no, you know. And the opposite party always does this to every, you know, Senate confirmation candidate. You know, they use it as some platform to blab and blab and then never let the other person answer or give them some trick question like, have you stopped beating your wife, right? Yes or no, you know. So it’s the same kind of a – kind of a joke, theatricals that go on. But I thought he did a very good job when he was allowed to answer. I thought he did a great job. So I was very impressed.
SPEAKER 04 :
So where are we at with health care? He has asserted that we’re very unhealthy and that we want to make America healthy again. And so where are we on? And all these pharmaceuticals, of course, many of the shows, that is all it is, is basically pharmaceuticals that they’re advertising.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, exactly. And what are the most common pharmaceuticals? Diabetic care. and uh autoimmune disease and you know all of that yeah so the the things that rfk jr described as the biggest problems so obesity diabetes type 2 and then the the rise in autoimmune and autism and chronic disease the pharmaceutical industry has a unique way of kind of creating issues and then having a chronic medication that you have to take for the rest of your life you know, to deal with it. So you’re never off of these things, and we’re not encouraging people to live healthy lives. But I think that part of the problem, I mean, government controls a whole lot more of our health care than we realize. Obviously, you know, it started after World War II, but over time, since Medicare and Medicaid came into being, we have a health care system now where the person giving the care, the provider, the the person getting the care are bureaucratically separated by the person paying for the care or the entity paying for the care. That’s the problem. If you could realign the entire reimbursement system, the scam of these ridiculous charges, $30 for a Band-Aid, kind of stuff where they charge you $30 for a Band-Aid or they’re charging $30 for a Band-Aid, but they only get paid like $0.03 or not at all, right, by the third-party payers. But you don’t know what happens in that black box of a $30 Band-Aid all of a sudden is free, right? So it’s kind of like that is the scam. I can’t imagine that that is really legally okay. certainly ethically and morally, it shouldn’t be okay to have this ridiculous lie going on about what health care really costs and who should have to pay what cost, how transparent all of these costs and charges should be, which they should all be completely transparent, and now They’re not. Am I making sense? I think people kind of understand a little bit, but I can go into a little more detail. Yeah. I mean, I think, Kim, you understand me. OK, so so just a quick example, if that’s OK. Sure. Like, you know, I had I had a surgery. I’ve had a couple of cancers. I had a surgery and my bill was I got a bill with the charges of ninety one thousand dollars. Okay, I was in the hospital for a couple, $91,000. My insurance company didn’t pay it right away. I get a letter from the hospital where I was a physician, actually, and I get a letter from the hospital saying, you’re going to have to pay all $91,000 if your insurance doesn’t pay this. Well, that’s a horrible letter for anybody to get. Who could pay $91,000, right? Just write a check. And so the thing is, it didn’t shock me. It made me mad because I already knew what the game was. It turns out my insurance company paid shortly thereafter. Then I get another bill, kind of a notice from the insurance company saying, here was the charge, $91,000. Here’s what your insurance paid, $9,100. $9,100, you owe nothing. Now, how did that $91,000 get down to $9,100 and everybody’s okay with that? It’s because the $91,000 never existed. It’s a made-up number. It’s fake. That should be illegal. That is a scam. It’s a fraud. And every provider pulls this trick. They just charge all this money saying, well, maybe somebody will pay it. The only people that ever have to pay that are the people who don’t have money. full coverage health insurance and all this stuff so the insurance companies allow this to happen because they know they’re not going to have to pay that number they contract all the time with the way most of the reimbursement stuff that i saw in two cancers multiple surgeries the reimbursement was about 10 percent of what the charge was now if i only had to pay 9 100 for that cancer I could do that if I weren’t paying $30,000 a year for health insurance with a $6,000 deductible. You know, if I’m paying a $24,000 plus $6,000 deductible before I can ever even use the health care that I’m paying $24,000 for, I could have paid for three of those surgeries cash, written a check. if I didn’t have to pay ridiculously high premiums for health care that I didn’t expect to use. Now, that being said, I would have had a catastrophic coverage, catastrophic insurance for that hospitalization, and that would have paid that hospitalization even. So if I had cancer, I’d have insurance for that, but for all the average little things, tell me what it really costs, not… 91,000 or half of 91,000, what are you paying, what are the insurance companies paying you to do this? Because clearly you’re happy with that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Ellen, you had a comment?
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And, you know, Dr. Jill, one of the ways my eyes was open to this is we the health provider, we went to actually transition to a direct primary care because he said he spent most of his time coding to charge and bill insurance as opposed to actually seeing patients. And so he switched to a, hey, you pay us a monthly fee and you can come see us however much you want. And it was really nice because one, the care increased. He was able to spend more time with us. But Dr. Jill, to your point, he charged at cost for prescriptions, for blood panels, for blood work. And when we got the bill, every time I was like, oh my goodness, this is how little all of this costs. And I mean, we have pretty good health insurance, uh, through my employer and it’s still worth it for me to go to this direct primary care doctor to pay on top of my health insurance, this monthly fee, just so we can pay at cost for all the, all the things that, uh, these primary care doctors have. It’s mind blowing.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it, and when it exactly, and I talk about this all the time, that is the basis. And, and, um, RFK Jr. was trying to explain that direct primary care. He mentioned it, I think, three different times. But he was never allowed to expound on it because it’s such a wonderful business model that the practitioners of it, a lot of times they even have urgent care services available as well and call services for minor emergencies, which is brilliant. Great for families with kids, the perfect model for Medicaid patients. So all you would need is a catastrophic policy. Now, isn’t it sad that your employer wouldn’t have doesn’t have the option of saying, you know what, if you want to do a direct primary care here, let me just give you the amount of money that I’m paying for you to be to have this insurance. And they should have the option of saying, here, I’m just going to give you this chunk of money, and you can use it for your health insurance. You just have to tell me what you’re doing so I can have a record of you’re going to have direct primary care with a catastrophic policy. The other problem is who’s selling catastrophic policies? who what insurance companies anymore are selling what used to be called major medical or catastrophic policies. And it’s not in the insurance company’s best interest to do that. No, everybody has to have the Obamacare massive laundry list of mandated coverages, which makes these policies so expensive.
SPEAKER 04 :
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And that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Dr. Jill Vecchio is on the line, and we’re talking about health care. And, Jill, as you were talking about that you had this surgery, you got a bill for $91,000, which is going to take everybody’s breath away, and told if you don’t have insurance, you have to pay that. But yet the actual payment was about 10% of that. which seems much more reasonable. But this care that is not, well, my point on this is, and I watch this issue closely regarding Denver Health. where they said that their unpaid health costs will soar to $155 million. This was a report September 17, 2024, from Denver 7, because they wanted to get a 0.5% – actually, hold on here. yeah 0.5 percent no it was a different one it was a little bit less than that to help fund so there was a sales tax increase people voted for it for Denver Health because they’re out there saying that they’re losing all of this money but I think it’s part of maybe this this um you use the word scam but I this this this difference between the two talk to me about that
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and I think I’m going to keep calling it a scam, scam, scam over and over again because it’s not morally or ethically fair, right, honest. And, yes, so when – I think there are two reasons why the industry embraces this massive charge thing. Number one is to scare the heck out of people, to scare the hell out of people so that they will think that they cannot – do without total comprehensive health care insurance, health insurance. They have to believe that they could never pay cash. They could never afford health care without having a fully comprehensive policy. And that’s where the insurance companies make a ton of money, because they can charge healthy people who take good care of themselves, aren’t seeing a doctor, you know, but once in every five years, think of all the money they’re accumulating. And not having to pay out. So healthy people are having to pay way too much for health care that they can never even use, never even begin to use because of the high deductibles. And then the sick people are benefiting that people can make bad choices and they’re still benefiting. So it’s an unfair system in that respect. And especially for the average person. also number two just like you said so these so these facilities and providers can claim that they give free care this much care tax deducted you know that sort of thing that they’re giving all of this free care when it’s kind of like which which number are you using are you using the charge number because that’s going to be in your best interest especially if you want to pass some legislation saying we gave this 150 billion dollars or whatever or a million dollars in free care. Well, sure, Denver General, well, DG, we used to call it Denver General, right? Denver Health. They get very little reimbursement. And most of those patients that show up there, or at least it used to, were cash pay if they paid at all. And then they were stuck with the high charge and expected to pay that. And then we get Congress… you know, and people who are proposing this legislation or single payer health care, they’re going to use those big numbers. And they’re going to say, look at all these people who went bankrupt because of medical expenses, right? That’s because, sure, you’re going to go bankrupt if you get a $91,000 bill, when the insurance company for exactly the same thing only had to pay $9,100. Tell me how that’s fair. Yeah, you’re going to go bankrupt if you’re expected to pay that ridiculous charge amount that nobody else has to pay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you see what I’m saying? I do, and I think that’s so – it was a 0.34% sales tax increase, which sales tax is regressive because it makes things more expensive. Now, Denver, I don’t think, charges sales tax on some food items, but it makes life more expensive for everyone, these people that are trying to keep it together. And that did pass. The affordable housing did not. I was a no on both of those and actually debated – the CEO of Denver Health on this particular issue. And then I debated Mike Johnston, Mayor Mike Johnston, on the affordable housing issue as well, which did fail. But I think on the Denver Health, I think people look at it and Denver Health makes the case that they’re that safety net in case something really bad happens, you could go to Denver Health. And I think that’s probably why it passed. But what you’re shedding light on here is Jill, is the game. The game, what the bill is, what’s really paid, and how that big difference is used as a narrative to push forward. Ultimately, single-payer health care, government-run health care is communistic in where it’s based. And you said this early on when we were together, I learned this from you, that when government gets involved, Typically, the price goes up, the quality goes down, and the supply becomes limited, Jill.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, exactly. But this whole thing with the charges and using it legislatively and everything, how can you expect lawmakers, legislators, to make proper decisions if the information that they’re being given is so inaccurate? You can’t expect the right decisions. Even good people can’t make a proper, effective decision if they’re only being given skewed, massively skewed information. So this is like the first thing that needs to be addressed, in my opinion. And the second thing is all the lobbying and campaign money that goes to legislators, especially in Washington. But, you know, I think one of the other things we need to do is have like a big scarlet letter, a big sign around every legislator’s neck with a list of what donors they’ve had that will have a stake in whatever piece of legislation they’re standing up to vote on. And they should have to walk down with a little sign around their neck and openly say how they’re voting on this piece of legislation. You know, that’s transparency. I mean, it should be right there in front of everybody. Who’s paying you to vote the way that you’re voting? Or are you going to vote in spite of who’s paying for your campaign?
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You shouldn’t have to force people to do it. Alan Thomas, you’ve stayed in studio. It’s always interesting when we have Dr. Jill on.
SPEAKER 14 :
It always is, and you learn something, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, we hope that happens every day here. Right. And Dr. Jill Vecchio is on the line. We’re talking about health care in America. And we have Johnny in Denver on the line with a question for Dr. Jill.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I’ve been listening to her idea about the sign and the politicians. What about having it like an Amber Alert, using AI to digitally write down who these people are, And who’s paying for them to vote that way so it notifies you in your district that’s your senator and pay attention.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you know, yeah, I think it needs to be much more public. We shouldn’t have to seek out, you know, we shouldn’t have to be little private investigators to figure out. who is paying for the campaigns for the people that we are supposed to be controlling the elections for, right? I mean, we’re supposed to, they’re supposed to answer to us, but clearly they’re going to answer to whoever donates their campaign, whoever has a bigger say in whether or not they get elected. And, you know, all of that stuff, I think, does need to be addressed. But until it can really effectively be addressed, there will always be corruption. There’s always going to be background money. You know, you’re not going to get rid of that. because it’s just human nature, but it needs to be much more public, and they need to feel the pressure. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
I have another question. I was on this insurance plan, and somebody in Texas with my name was using my insurance, and when it was $36, I didn’t think about it because they would always say, oh, you don’t have to pay that. We’ll go into it. After two years, and it went up from $36 to $3,000 and up, I wanted to go down to Texas and find out who is this other Johnny who’s using my name and using my insurance and nothing seems to be happening. Wow. It sounds like to me that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I have never heard of that. I have never heard of that happening. United Health. What do the insurance companies say? Really?
SPEAKER 09 :
And they’re not addressing it themselves? This is fought against them. I was calling and saying on the phone for hours, you know, why they went to this line and this line. And we just got tired of calling. And I just switched insurance plans because even though they said I wasn’t going to be charged for it, I just hated seeing who is this person with my name that it doesn’t seem to be doing anything.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it could affect your credit rating if they’re running up a bill and not paying it in your name. You might want to check your credit score stuff to see if it’s showing up.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’m on top of that, but it just seemed like they acted like they cared, but nothing happened.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Well, that’s pretty typical, though, isn’t it? You’re lucky you haven’t had somebody answer the phone. At this point, there are so many people, places you can’t. You’re expected to go online and chat with some AI person. Right. So, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Johnny, for sharing that with us. And I think health care is coming into the forefront here, obviously, with RFK Jr. So, Jill, what you and I are doing is we wanted to give the macro perspective. view today and then you’re going to be on next week as well to have a follow-up on this. So we’ve got maybe about five minutes left. What do you want to make sure that people know?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, one of the things you did bring up, I mean, places like Denver Health, really any hospital should be a place where someone can show up and get care and then get the proper care and then let’s figure out the payment and but make that fair as well. Now, the other thing is, if all these hospitals have foundation money, I’d like to know how they’re spending their foundation money. Are they giving free care? Or where is that foundation money really going? And then another thing, why don’t we have, why don’t we let charities and churches start health savings accounts that they can use that money only for medical care when somebody approaches them, just like a charity gives away, you know, gives clothing away or at a discounted rate or something, right? I mean, we’re a very giving country. Why don’t we have the ability for charities and churches to have health savings accounts that they can help other people in need pay for medical care? Well, they should be able to do that. We should be able to do that. I don’t understand why that… has not already occurred. And then you think if that was the case, then why do we have to have all of the indigent going to one single hospital, one single entity? You know, you could raise the bar of care everywhere and you’d be able to distribute the burden and the workload. I mean, Aurora Medical Center also has a boatload of unreimbursed care. So why does it need to be concentrated on just a couple of facilities and the other ones are rolling in dough? You know, it just doesn’t make any sense.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and again, I still question that unpaid care if they’re using that, for example, in your example, $91,000 instead of the $9,100. But this is also, this was from the Denver Post. It says, Denver Health has paused gender-affirming surgeries recently. for youth to comply with Trump order, preserve federal funds. So I’m just going to say that Denver Health, change it to what it really is. Denver Health pauses mutilation surgeries for youth to comply with Trump order and preserve federal funds. So we’ve been using federal funds to pay Denver Health to mutilate children. And I think we kind of have to question that, Dr. Jill.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s pathetic. Yeah. Yeah. Pathetic that they’re even doing that. I know. So we’re just about out of time. Why is it? I mean, people pay for Brazilian butt lifts, for crying out loud. I mean, they pay for cosmetic surgery. Essentially, it’s a cosmetic surgery. This is not medically indicated surgery. This is elective surgery. Why do we have to pay for elective surgery? surgery even though i completely disagree with the notion of gender gender transition surgery at all but if you want to if you want to mutilate your body or your kid’s body then don’t don’t ask me to pay for it that makes me an accessory to a crime right either through federal funding or through your and the insurance that you have so um final thought uh dr jill then we’ll go over to alan Let’s just go to Alan.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, we’ll do it. And you’re going to be on, I think it’s next Thursday, right? If I remember right. Whatever you tell me, I will do. I will obey.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dr. Jill, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. And Alan, your final thought on all this.
SPEAKER 14 :
One, it’s great that Trump is able to stop these surgeries, but it should give us pause and it should scare us that the tendrils that the federal government has into our everyday life. And we really need to work hard at removing the stranglehold that the federal government has over all of our life. The fact that there’s federal funding that can determine the type of care I’m going to get out of hospital should strike fear into all of us. And this is really something that
SPEAKER 04 :
republicans really need to start cracking down on in these next years with trump is saying the federal government needs to get out of your life and we’re going to make sure we can do it that is what and that you sound so founding fatherish on that well that’s what happens when you study them right that’s absolutely right and jill thanks so much i appreciate you doing all the research on this yes and i just to say you know what hail what alan just said because
SPEAKER 07 :
The government now controls everything through HHS, and now we have the opportunity for a secretary of HHS who is really competent and not afraid to go after all of us.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so it’s exciting times here in Colorado and in America. We’re at the tip of the spear here in Colorado. God put us all here for a reason, and so we need to step into this. We’re definitely at a time in history, and we were made for this moment. Our quote for the end of the show is from Thucydides. He said this, he said, happiness depends on being free and freedom depends on being courageous. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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Young like a new moon rising Fierce through the rain and lightning Wandering out into this great unknown And I don’t want no one to cry But tell them if I don’t survive I was born
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