In this engaging episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush talks with real estate expert Kurt Rogers about the nuances of today’s buyer’s market. Tune in to learn why now might be the right time to buy as mortgage rates begin to shift, offering potential advantages for first-time buyers and seasoned investors alike.
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And we are back. Hour number three here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560. It’s time for our Monday Mortgage Minute with Kurt Rogers, Affordable Interest Mortgage. Kurt, how are you today? I’m fine, Andy. How are you? I’m doing well, sir. I’m doing well. Hey, I wanted to ask you, are we still in a buyer’s market?
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I firmly believe we’re actually in the beginning of a buyer’s market. I think it’s going to last probably for 12 to 18 months. Really? Yeah, I really do. I think as you see rates go down, it’s going to put the buyers more in control. Wow.
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Okay, because I have had times where, all right, just a second. I’ve had times where I have bought homes. I bought a couple of homes. And in both times, I bought them during buyer’s markets, right? And the rates were a little higher at the time. But what I did is I bought when the – because the rates were a little higher, the prices were lower. I bought then. And then within the next two years, the rates went down. And so I was able to renegotiate and refinance. And basically, I got a twofer.
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A lot of people miss that point. They think if they buy when the rates are up above normal, that that’s a bad thing to do. But the advantage is you get a better price on that, and then you can turn around in a year or two, especially with these 2-1 buy-downs, and refinance it and have the seller from the initial loan pay for your cost to refinance it to get a better rate. Yeah. Now, what about first-time buyers? Do they still have some stuff going for them? They have some great programs out there. We’re going to be talking a lot about that tomorrow. I’m going to give an example that people say, I can’t buy a home with rates to where they are now as cheap as I can rent. I can show you where you can get a two-bedroom, two-bath for less than $2,000 a month. See, that’s awesome. We’re going to be talking about that tomorrow.
SPEAKER 18 :
And I would look at them and say, the prices are down because of that. Now’s the time to get in. You get it. And then you refinance later. Because I believe, Kurt, that the rates are going to go down over the next two years.
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Oh, I think they’ll go down a little bit this year. Then they’ll go down more. That’s why I think now’s a good buyer’s market as you’re going on. So, yeah, I agree with you.
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All right. Well, let’s see here. Haystack help tomorrow. You host. And what again is the topic?
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We’re going to be talking about first-time homebuyers. First-time homebuyers right now are 35% of the buyer’s market. So there’s a lot of them out there trying to take advantage, and we’re going to kind of go over different loan programs that can help more younger folks and more first-time homebuyers buy a home.
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Okay, folks, if you want to know anything about that, tomorrow from noon to 1, be listening to Haystack Help with Kurt Rogers. Kurt, as always, we appreciate the advice. Take care. You have a great night. That’s Kurt Rogers from Affordable Interest Mortgage. You can give him a call at 720-895-0500.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush online right now. We got Jersey Joe. Joe, how you doing? Andy, I’m doing good. How are you doing? How’s my gumba? I’m doing all right. I’m doing all right. All right. Hey, Joe, I know you got some clips. You got some topics. But as I warned you in advance, there’s something I want to talk about first.
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All right. I was going to do the fun stuff first, but if you want to do the heavy stuff first, we can do the heavy stuff.
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I want to get heavy and philosophical. This is really going to grind your brain. Is favoritism killing the favorites? And here’s what I mean. The last four years, especially of Biden, which was so unbelievably hardcore DEI throughout our entire society. Right. And what you had was an entire culture. And I think this is going to start turning with Trump in place. And it’s not because Trump, you know, is pro white heterosexual men. It’s that Trump doesn’t care. You know, you could be anything and you’re fine with Trump. He simply does not care. But there was a hierarchy and it was definitely for the last four years it was put into overdrive. But it’s been there now for a couple of decades. Yeah. And here’s what I mean. The more check marks by your name, the higher up the ladder you were, okay, socially. And I think you saw this the most when you would watch commercials on TV, all right? Now, think about this for a second, Joe. Every commercial, almost every commercial, what do you got? You got a bad or dumb person, and you got a good or smart person, right? Yeah.
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And the dumb person is always a minority, right? That’s always the dumb person?
SPEAKER 18 :
No, no, I don’t think so.
SPEAKER 11 :
There’s never been a dumb minority in an ad ever?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, there is, but you have to have somebody else who’s higher up the ladder than you. And by the way, for instance, let’s say it’s one of those home protection companies. What kind of person do they always show robbing your house? A white person. A white man. It’s never a white woman. It is always a white man. So here’s what I mean. The more check marks by your name, okay, the more check marks for the right demographics by your name, the higher up the ladder you are. It’s very simple. So straight white male has zero. OK, straight white female has one check. OK, black, straight black male has one check. Right. Gay black male has two checks or gay white female has two checks. And then if you want three checks, if you want to go all the way, you get gay black female checks. All right. And obviously now that now they’re excuse me, they’re also mixing in trans. But here’s the thing. You could have a black male be the dumb one in the in the commercial. If his wife, who is, say, a black female, was the smart one because she has two checks. She has two checks by her name. He only has one check by his name. Do you see how that works?
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Absolutely. You’re spot on, Andy.
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No matter what, in almost every commercial, and I did this one time, I went through, golly, it was 20-some commercials. And out of all of them, there was like one where there was an inverse of this. If you have, say, a black and white, I’m sorry, a two black, a black woman and a black man. The black man almost invariably has to be either the bad or the dumb person. And obviously, you have never seen a gay black female be the bad or dumb person in any ad ever.
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Never, ever.
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Not once. Now, when you compare that to the real world, because in the real world, all people are just people. It doesn’t matter what you are. It’s all by merit. At least it’s supposed to be. Compare what we had with our previous White House press secretary. To what we have now.
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Karine Jean-Pierre, was that her name?
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Yes, Karine Jean-Pierre compared to Carolyn Leavitt, who is, Carolyn Leavitt looks like she’s about eight years old. Okay, she’s like 20. She’s the youngest one ever. I think she’s like 25 or something.
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Yeah, 25, 26, and she just had a baby.
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Yeah, she is a miracle. I mean, she’s incredible. The jump from KJP to her has been astronomical. I’m going to give one more example of the Super Bowl. In the playoffs, it was pretty well known the Chiefs were carried by the refs. They were given favoritism. More check marks, if you know what I mean. They got the Taylor Swift check mark. What did that do? It elevated them into a game where they didn’t belong. against a team that was so superior to them. They didn’t belong in the field. They shouldn’t have been there. They had nowhere near the talent of the Eagles, but the Eagles weren’t carried there by the refs. Am I making sense?
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Yes, and you called that the Friday before the Super Bowl when you and John and I’m drawing a blank on John’s son, Richard, when you were discussing it, they were, you know, Richard was all in for the Chiefs and John was kind of on the fence and you were All in for the Eagles. You were the only one who had it. You were clearly correct. And by the way, you know I put a $100 bet on the Eagles back in December. I know. Paid me $550. Yes! I was with you all the way.
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By the way, John actually picked the Chiefs by 10 or more. No fooling. And I don’t think – I think they both understood. I think we all understood the Eagles were the better team. I think that they were basically looking at it and saying, well, geez, the refs carried them this far. And I can’t blame them for that because the refs had been so nice to them. But what I’m saying is look at America today. America – When you are favored that much by society, it kills a lot of your motivation. And I don’t care. You can go back 100 years. It was reversed, right? Straight white men had every advantage in the book. Right. They had every advantage in the book. And so when they had to go up against some young black guy who was learning, you know, how to do law, he would crush them in the court. Why? He’s better. He had to work for it. It doesn’t make any difference. But do you see that today coming into this Trump administration, which is totally new, do you see that this cultural and this cultural preference could be switching?
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I think it started with the Supreme Court decision, was it two years ago, when you had some Asian students up in Harvard filed suit that they were head and shoulders in terms of their grades, their test scores, their student activities. And when Harvard was doing their affirmative action admissions, they were admitting minority students who hadn’t scored nearly as well. They had lower GPAs, much lower test scores, much lower student activities. And they were clear it was reverse discrimination, and the Asian students filed suits and, hey, we’re being discriminated against because they’re showing race preference, and race preference is a violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. And Supreme Court agreed with them. That was the end of that.
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And we had a listener in the last hour who said that air traffic controllers, there are now like 2,500 of them, white men, who are now claiming discrimination and they’ve signed on to a suit. to sue because they weren’t given jobs because they were white men and they were basically just kept out. But here’s my other question. That favoritism, does it just hurt the people who are cheated against or does it also hurt the people who are the favorites?
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No, it hurts the people who are shown the favoritism because they’re just like the chiefs. They’re put into a situation where, you know, they’re destined to fail. In fact, I don’t know if you had a chance to read it, but, uh, About an hour before the show, I sent you a couple of articles. And one of the ones that we could spend an hour discussing this, it said affirmative action is a failure machine. It is. It just sets people up to fail. And I sent you two other studies and research that showed that when minority students are admitted into very high-level institutions… despite their lower scores, their lower academic achievement, their failure rate is almost double than their white counterparts who admitted on the basis of their credentials. So my question is this. So you’re a minority student. You get admitted despite your grades, which are, they talk about standard deviations, and I won’t talk about what a standard, but it’s a mathematical deviation. distinction between, you know, kind of the average and where you are, that minority students who had more than one standard deviation were twice as likely to fail out than students who are with plus or minus that one standard deviation. Now, here’s my question. So if you’re a minority student and you get admitted into an MIT or a Harvard, and after a year or two years, you fail out. Now, not only have you lost two years of your life, I don’t know how much, no, it unless you’ve got a full ride in a scholarship, you’ve probably lost tens of thousands of dollars. And you can say, well, you can always transfer to another school. You cannot transfer. If you get an F in a course, you have no transferable credits. You don’t get any credits. You can’t transfer. If you fail the course, there are no credits to transfer for that failed course.
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Well, yeah, but don’t forget, a lot of these colleges were also apparently, at least from what I heard, boosting scores, boosting grades. for people of color in various classes. And look, people hear this and they think, oh, you’re two white guys saying that people of color are dumb. No, all people are exactly the same. They’re missing the point. If you take any group, any group, okay, it can be white people with red hair. It makes no difference. And you pile on all kinds of advantages and favoritism, you’re gonna make them weaker. They don’t have to climb up as high a ladder every day. which means they don’t get as good at climbing ladders.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. If you took a bunch of white applicants with much, much lower test scored, much lower grade point averages, they would fail at the same rate that those minorities with those same test scores. So this is not unique to skin color. You know, it’s, again, the white students, had they been admitted for those same lowered standards, would have had the same exact failure rate as those minority students. Now, There are minority students who, in fact, do qualify and did get admitted based on merit, and they excelled.
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Oh, sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
God bless them. But the ones who were, they lowered the bar, if you will. They stand they stood a greater than 20 percent chance of failing out in year one.
SPEAKER 18 :
But here’s what still angers me, though. This also puts a stigma on the people of color who are excellent at what they do, who bring the excellence at what they do. Let me give an example. The greatest man I ever the greatest person I ever worked with in the military. while I was in the air force was my supervisor. His name was, we called him big Mike. Okay. I won’t give his last name. I don’t like to embarrass people, but big Mike turned my life around. Big Mike was magnificent. He was a leader. And not only was he a leader, he was a transformer. He transformed me from just a stupid young hothead into somebody who is, you know, somewhat functional in this world. OK. And he meant everything to me. OK. Now, this was at a time when the Air Force didn’t care about your color or anything like that. Big Mike came in like all of us and just kicked ass. He was just better. OK. And in today’s military, Big Mike would still be Big Mike. Right. But a lot of people would probably look at him, especially after the last four years of what the Biden administration did, look at him and say, what advantages were you given? And have that look at him of that stigma, right? You’ve been given a leg up. You have that, but you’re a tech sergeant because you’ve been given that leg up. No, he hasn’t. He’s that good.
SPEAKER 11 :
But people won’t know that they’ll always have that doubt or suspicion. Well, he got to where he is because of the color of his skin.
SPEAKER 18 :
Exactly. Anyway, that’s that’s all the seriousness I want to do, because I am kind of wondering going forward now, now that our new wonderful defense leader is going to get rid of all that stuff and he is getting rid of all that stuff. Could excellence be back? Could people learn to love each other again? And could we go forward and just be awesome? And I’m pretty excited about it. I think it’s going to be better for everybody.
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Andy, I hope you’re right, and I’m praying that you are. And let’s keep our fingers crossed and hope that he continues on the path that he’s on, despite all of the resistance that he’s running up against. By the way, I think he planned on that resistance. You push the boundaries, and you know you’re going to get pushback But you just keep plowing ahead. It’s like when you plow snow, you’re throwing snow off to the left and the right, and some is going to get thrown back in the road, but you just keep moving ahead. And I think he’s going to continue to make progress. Even if he loses a few of these skirmishes, it’s not going to stop the freight trains.
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Well, I’ll tell you what, our Secretary of Defense is going to help ride that train. He’s incredible. Okay, I’ll tell you what, when we get back, Jersey, Joe, you’re going to help us have some fun, okay?
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I will try, Andy.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Jersey. Joe is on the line. Joe, what do you got for us?
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Well, John, before I, give me, Andy, before I get into a couple of my clips, I think I heard you talk about this in the prior hour, but I just, for those who are just joining the show, astounding statistic. Now, during the Biden administration, right up through the end of the year, the average number of what they call encounters, people coming across, you know, the southern border, was around 7,000 a day. And the statistic I heard from, is that yesterday, that number had fallen from 7,000 a day to 229. Unreal. Not 2,000 a day, 229. Now, this is with no new congressional, Biden kept saying, well, I can’t do anything without congressional action. I can’t do anything without more money. What a liar. Because Trump hadn’t, there’s been no change in our immigration laws No new money. And he hasn’t hired and deployed any new border agents in three weeks. It takes more than three weeks to go through basic training to become a border agent. So with the same budget, the same rules, same laws, same number of border agents, he has cut, Trump has cut illegal crossings into this country by 98.5% in three weeks. From 7,000 a day to 229 a day.
SPEAKER 18 :
And all Americans should be really angry right now at the Democrats who spent the last four years lying their tails off and telling us all, oh, you know, you can’t do this. You can’t do that. Oh, it won’t make any difference. Oh, walls don’t work. Like barriers don’t work.
SPEAKER 11 :
Can’t be done. Can’t be done.
SPEAKER 18 :
Can’t be done. Can’t be done. Can’t be done. You kidding? It hasn’t been a month. He did it in three weeks. They lied. They lied. And I’m telling you what, Joe, Americans more and more every month are going to see how much they lied. And I’m telling you, everybody thinks 2026 is going to be so great for the Democrats. I would not be so sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Oh, and by the way, I did a little check of the media. You know, I went on, I Googled that story. No coverage by CBS, NBC, or ABC. CNN had a little bit. Fox had it. But the mainstream media, if you watch the evening news tonight on any of the network shows other than Fox, you’re not going to hear a peep about the only 229 border encounters yesterday. Not one peep. It’s going to be one of the best kept secrets in this country.
SPEAKER 18 :
And it was the number one issue of the entire election. And you’re not going to have any coverage of it by the people who are being proven wrong because, by the way, it wasn’t just the Democrat Party and their candidates who were saying that. It was the media backing them up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And I think they’re embarrassed and that’s why they’re not going to talk about it because it doesn’t reflect well on them. I mean, it’s, you know, because they’re because they were with Biden. Yeah, well, Biden has his hands tied. Biden can’t do anything about it. No, he didn’t have his hands tied. And Trump has proven that.
SPEAKER 18 :
So no, he tied our hands. So all right. What else you got for us, sir?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I want to go back to last week or two weeks ago with the tariffs. And, you know, Chuck Schumer, I don’t know if you saw Chuck Schumer in his press conference. He comes out with a bottle of Corona beer in one hand, which is a Mexican beer and an avocado in the other. And this is how he’s you know, going up against Trump. It’s going to cost you, your guacamole is going to cost you more, and your beer is going to cost you more. Now, Jon Stewart, the talk show host, is a flaming liberal. Yeah. But Jon Stewart, you know, it was so ridiculous. Even Jon Stewart came out and just put a harpoon through Chuck Schumer. So if we have that clip, Charlie, can you play, and this is talk show host Jon Stewart taking a shot, and you’ll hear some silence. It’s Jon Stewart just shaking his head after Schumer does this little play on his little press conference, there’s a little pause by Schumer. Stuart’s just shaking his head, so go ahead, please.
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Okay. Most of it, Corona here, comes from Mexico. It’s going to affect your guac, because what is guacamole made of? Avocados.
SPEAKER 12 :
Your response to the trade war is to tell us guacamole is made of avocados? Democrats, can you please stop trotting Schumer out there? Every time Trump traverses into the unreal, he’s not good at this. What is the decision-making process here? Hey, who should we get out there to effectively battle one of the most savvy presidential media manipulators in history? I don’t know. How about Schumer? He’s uninteresting, but at least he’s monotone.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and this is funny because, let’s face it, he doesn’t go after his side all the time like Bill Maher does. No, no.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you got to know he was really furious. When you lose Jon Stewart, you know you’re in trouble. Yes, that’s like losing Whoopi. Losing Whoopi. You’re at the end.
SPEAKER 11 :
And then I’ve got a DEI clip. This is a stage satire. A young boy, maybe age 12, is at a spelling bee, and he’s asked to spell the word woman. And again, this is staged. It’s satire. And there’s two judges, a male and a black woman. judge number one and two, and he asks for the definition. So can we play this clip of this young boy asking for the definition of woman?
SPEAKER 15 :
The word is woman.
SPEAKER 26 :
Woman, can I have the country of origin, please?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don’t… Probably England or Germany or something. Woman.
SPEAKER 26 :
Can I have the definition, please?
SPEAKER 16 :
Uh… Why don’t you ask Judge One that question?
SPEAKER 26 :
Can I have the definition of woman, please?
SPEAKER 25 :
No.
SPEAKER 26 :
Why not? I’m allowed to ask for definitions, right?
SPEAKER 25 :
The thing is, a woman is… A woman is… What she’s trying to say is that each person gets to define…
SPEAKER 16 :
for themselves what a woman is.
SPEAKER 26 :
So can you define it?
SPEAKER 15 :
No. Word is woman.
SPEAKER 18 :
So I do know their country of origin. It was stupidest Stan.
SPEAKER 11 :
But I think that encapsulates the whole ridiculousness of DEI. It does. And gender and gender pronouns. You know, you know, because if you’re a liberal, you can’t define woman. Remember, we had the Supreme Court. Was it Kazenji Jackson Brown, whatever her name is? Katonji. Katonji Brown was asked to define woman. And, you know, what she should have said is there, you know, there’s several definitions. There’s the biological definition. But no, she said. No, she just tap danced around and refused to define what a woman was.
SPEAKER 18 :
She should have been barred from the court right there. That should have been the end. It is a come on. It’s a female human, adult female human. That’s what it is. You want to get into chromosomes? What do you want next? It’s this is ridiculous. People, it really blows my mind. It’s one thing for us to come to this point in history. where we talk so idiotically, and if somebody were transported forward from 200 years ago, they couldn’t believe how stupid we sound. It’s one thing to get that dumb. It’s another thing to put it on the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it’s just, you know, I shake my head, and I’m so happy to see us going back the other way. You know, this happens when the pendulum goes too far in the other way, one direction. You know, it’s going to swing back, and it has swung back. I don’t think it would have swung this far back. If it hadn’t gone so far the other direction to begin with, you know, this is clearly a reaction to how far I mean, when so far the vast majority of Americans, even those who don’t like Trump, said we can’t take any more of this. So I got to vote for the guy I’m not thrilled about. But I can’t we can’t take any more of the direction we’re going is not a path we want to stay on.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, we’re talking more about the cultural shift. This is what I was leading leading with earlier. How many check marks do you have? It moves you up the ladder. OK, and anybody who is dumb and stupid in an ad or is evil in a movie or whatever has to be one checkmark below you or on the same level. And, you know, I just think that we have lost. Let me ask you this, Joe. This cultural shift that we are seeing, which is unbelievable, this is the most stark, quick cultural shift I’ve ever seen in my life. Okay? Do you think it goes international? Do you think it’s going to go beyond our borders?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, but not to the extent that, well, you know, you saw France. almost elected, Marie Penn, she didn’t get elected, but the movement moving in her direction is growing. So I think they didn’t go as far as we did, so I don’t think the rebound is going to be as strong as it was here. But I think they’re starting to come back, and I think when they watch what’s happening here, they may say, you know, we want to be more like the U.S. And what’s his name, Justin Trudeau in Canada, you know, he’s on really shaky ground too.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, he’s gone. Well, what about, okay. Okay. What about, what about a country totally turning itself around like Argentina? What does that do to the countries? Are the countries around there just so gone and corrupt? It doesn’t make any difference.
SPEAKER 11 :
Uh, well, you know, you got two things at play. You’ve got no Brazil just, you know, they went through there. It was a bowl of sorrow. Uh, you know, he was there, he was there.
SPEAKER 18 :
Trump, right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Uh, And now he’s out. And they flip back? I’m sorry?
SPEAKER 18 :
And they flip back?
SPEAKER 11 :
And they flip back. But the fact that he got in to begin with, I think, is an indication. But I think down there it was more an issue of economics and inflation than it was, you know, anything to have to do with DEI.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I think in the rest, like Argentina, I think the same thing. It’s more of an economic and inflation issue than a DEI. I don’t think DEI went as far left in South America as it did here. Okay.
SPEAKER 18 :
Although their leader did make a heck of a speech at the UN about men and women, which was pretty incredible. Yeah, it was pretty incredible. I won’t bore you with it right now. Tell you what, can we take a break? Absolutely. Okay, let’s take a break. We’ll come back with more from Jersey Joe. Up next is Flesh Law, Kevin Flesh. That’s F-L-E-S-H. He represented me and my wife in a traffic accident, and we won easily. No one’s better than Kevin, so call Flesh Law at 303-806-8886 or go to FleshLawFirm.com.
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This isn’t Rage Radio. This is Real Relatable Radio. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Jersey Joe on the line right now. Joe, really quick before we go on, I want you to think back to Corrine Jean-Pierre, who was always, let’s face it, always looking down at these endless notes and having to read off what other people wrote for her. Remember that?
SPEAKER 11 :
Her three-ring binder, as contrast to our new press secretary. So Corrine would be up on her podium with her three-ring binder and somebody would ask her a question. And she would have to start furiously flipping through her four-inch-thick three-ring binder looking for something that might remotely be relevant to the question that was asked. And half the time it wasn’t. And she would read something from her three-ring binder that usually didn’t even – was not responsive to the question. And here we got our new press secretary. She’s out in the – outside the portico. She’s standing out in the roadway. And a gaggle of reporters were asking her questions. She has one piece of paper in her hand, and here she is freelancing it. You know, she’s got one piece of paper in her hand, taking on all questions and knocking them out of the park. She’s 25. 25 years old, no three-ring binder in front of her. Just, you know, they’re throwing the fastballs and she’s knocking them back out of the park.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, it’s incredible. Karine Jean-Pierre, I swear, her hair always looked windblown from the flipping the pages. OK, she was so OK. Here is Carolyn Leavitt just being asked a question. And by the way, I didn’t I just picked one out of millions. They all sound the same. Here she is handling the question. I forget what it even is.
SPEAKER 20 :
Are any officials here preparing to fight Democratic lawmakers in the streets?
SPEAKER 23 :
Absolutely not. And thanks for the question.
SPEAKER 20 :
Some elected Democrats are so esteemed about Doge, Congresswoman LaMonica McIver says we are at war. Ilhan Omar says we might actually see somebody get killed. And Chris Van Hollen says we have to fight this in the Congress, we have to fight this in the streets. So what now?
SPEAKER 23 :
And may I just point out, if you heard that type of violent, enticing rhetoric from our side of the aisle, from Republican leaders on Capitol Hill, I think there would be a lot more outrage in this room today. It’s unacceptable, the comments that have been made by these Democrat leaders. And frankly, they don’t even know what they’re talking about. Because President Trump was elected with a mandate from the American people to make this government more efficient. He campaigned across this country with Elon Musk, vowing that Elon was going to head up the Department of Government Efficiency, and the two of them, with a great team around them, were going to look at the receipts of this federal government and ensure it’s accountable to American taxpayers. That’s all that is happening here, and for Democrat officials to incite violence and encourage Americans to take to the streets is incredibly alarming, and they should be held accountable for that rhetoric.
SPEAKER 20 :
It sounds like something that they’re most concerned about is Doge engineers with access to treasury systems. Can you clarify, do the Doge engineers have read-only access in these systems? So they are not allowed to write new code.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, and here’s the thing. Notice how she immediately adds perspective and context here. to her question, okay, what if somebody on our side did that? How would this be treated? And this is, that’s a debate technique that is totally different. KJP could never do anything like that. And also the entire time, Corrine never looked down. This is just her talking. And I can do that with every single answer she does. I’m telling you what, between these two, Corrine Jean-Pierre is the chiefs.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep, he was a Kansas City Chiefs.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, she didn’t belong there. And people say, oh, you’re saying that because she was a gay black female. Couldn’t care less. Couldn’t possibly care less. It means absolutely nothing. I mean, Condoleezza Rice is one of the most incredibly brilliant people in our nation’s history. It’s just like it makes absolutely no difference. She sucked at her job. She got there because of quotas, and it showed. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. But and Dr. Condoleezza Rice and let me add Colin Powell is another very brilliant gentleman.
SPEAKER 18 :
How about Ben Carson?
SPEAKER 11 :
Dr. Ben Carson.
SPEAKER 18 :
Dr. Ben Carson rebuilds brains.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. Just saying. And tiny brains and children. Yes.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Incredible.
SPEAKER 11 :
Go ahead, Joe. All right. So all this commotion about, you know, well, the Trump six man Doge team has access to your taxes. They can see your social security number. Well, I did a little list of who else can see my social security number. My employer, the Department of Motor Vehicle, my bank. You know when you go in to cash a check or make a deposit and those 23-year-old kids behind the counter? Every one of those 23-year-old kids in your bank can look at your social security number. My hospital, my school has my university, my college university has my social security number. When I apply for a hunting and fishing license, they have my social security number. The car dealership where I finance my car has my social security number. I have three credit cards, and every one of those credit card companies has my social security number. My insurance company has my social security number. My mortgage company has my social security company. So with all these other people that have my social security number, including every 22-year-old kid behind the counter at my bank, why should I be concerned about Elon Musk’s six Doge team members? You know, they’re There are six on top of, what, 400 people that already have it?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, let me ask you this, Joe. Joe, let me ask you this, Joe. Who is more likely to misuse that information to scam or rob you? One of those kids that you’re talking in all those lists or the richest man in the world?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, obviously, Elon Musk needs your money. He does. He does. He’s got to find a way to pay for his next boat, and he can’t do it without your money. By the way, I’m more worried about the finance guy at the car dealership or the salesman. By the way, I’ve got a good friend in the car business, and he’s telling me about the turnover in some of the car dealerships in terms of how long some of these salespeople list. So if you’re willing to give your social security number to the guy who’s selling you a used car, Why are you worried about the Doge team seeing your Social Security number?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and Joe, wouldn’t you say, I mean, my goodness, when they have to use that as an attack, does that mean they have no attack? I mean, seriously, that’s embarrassing.
SPEAKER 11 :
It really is.
SPEAKER 18 :
Privacy concerns.
SPEAKER 11 :
By the way, I think I sent you a copy of the greatest political cartoon ever. It showed a bunch of people with donkey heads, you know, Democrats around the table, and one guy’s up at the whiteboard saying, what are we going to do to combat Trump? And you see the other donkeys start to chat among themselves, and then he goes… besides calling everybody a Nazi. That’s the only thing they got.
SPEAKER 18 :
It is all they got. I mean, do you think that this next four years is going to be as tough for them as I do? Because here’s the big problem, okay? It was the first time around, it was all them against Trump’s personality. Honestly, that was a winning argument for them with the independents, with the political middle of the country. Now it’s them up against Team Trump. And Trump has unleashed not only him with his incredible personality and his way of rallying the troops, but you’ve got brilliant J.D. Vance. You’ve got Elon Musk, who’s going to spend the next 15 months throwing out evidence of malfeasance by the Democrats. How do they compete with this?
SPEAKER 11 :
They can’t. And the more that comes out, and by the way, some of this stuff is not only what Doge is uncovering, but for instance, some of this stuff is making news. This $2 billion fiasco in the Mojave Desert, for those not aware of it, the U.S. government underwrote and became the loan guarantor. There was this massive solar project that started about eight years ago where instead of solar panels, this company was going to array 350,000 mirrors. It was like something out of a James Bond movie in a circle. And this circle was like six miles across. Hey, Joe. Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 18 :
Sorry. Oh, we have a caller who has a comment on Social Security numbers real quick here. Eric, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So just a few years ago, the Chinese government hacked the security background investigation. No, they wouldn’t do that. And so they’ve got everybody’s Social Security number that’s ever had a security clearance.
SPEAKER 18 :
And we’re worrying about Elon. Eric, I just want to ask you before you go, do you wake up every morning just worried about Elon having your information?
SPEAKER 09 :
No. Didn’t he start PayPal and have it anyways?
SPEAKER 18 :
I know. Great call. Thank you, Eric.
SPEAKER 09 :
Take care.
SPEAKER 18 :
We have the greatest callers. Go ahead, Joe.
SPEAKER 11 :
Anyway, for those who are not familiar, it was called the Ivanpah Solar Plant. And it was a bunch of mirrors, 350,000 mirrors in a big circle. And in the center, there was this tower. On top of the tower, there was a boiler that used molten salt. And the mirrors would collect the sun’s rays and shoot them up at this tower. They all focal point. And if a bird flew through that area where the solar were, it would incinerate the bird. Like in midair, the bird would catch fire and fall to the ground. They estimated that 6,000 birds were burned to a crisp just flying through this circle of mirrors. I mean, that’s how powerful it was. Oh, yeah. Anyway, had you heard about this, by the way? Yes. Yeah. That I’ve heard of. Anyway, so California Power & Light, PG&E, initially had a contract to buy this power. And last month they said, you know, we can’t afford the prices you want anymore, so we’re not going to renew our contract. So now they’re shutting it down. It’s going belly up. They had a total of $2.6 million. They got a $600,000 grant from the Treasury Department, from the Obama White House. And then there’s a $2 million federal loan guarantee, which they’re going to default on. So the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for $2.6 billion for a failed solar project in the Mojave Desert. that has killed 6,000 birds.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, yeah. This stuff is just going to be coming out one thing after the other thing. You know, the big thing that we’re going to be talking about, and by the way, Joe, you’re calling in again tomorrow at 5. We can go into this more, is simply the fact that the Democrat Party has been using the federal government as its piggy bank.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, it comes down to that. They’ve been robbing us blind.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because every one of these projects, by the way, this gets back to the high-speed fire. There’s been $2.2 billion spent, and not one home has been connected to this high-speed internet fiber optic network that Biden approved. But there’s been a billion spent for consultants to do studies and environmental studies. So here it is, two and a half years later, $2 billion spent. Not a single home has been connected to a high-speed Internet line under the Green New Deal. Just money down the drain, but a lot of people are making money even though no homes are being connected.
SPEAKER 18 :
We’re going to talk about this a lot tomorrow, Joe. Do come back at 5 because I think the Democrats have set themselves up for a long-term PR disaster. That’s what I think. Thanks a lot, Joe. All right, talk to you tomorrow, Randy.
SPEAKER 11 :
You take care.
SPEAKER 18 :
We’ll talk to you tomorrow. Oh, guys, I can’t wait for tomorrow. I’m already psyched about tomorrow’s show. It’s going to be a lot of Doge. It’s going to be Tanner and Luke. We’re going to have a lot of fun. That’s it for today, though. Our one replay is next. Until then, until tomorrow, drive safe, God bless, and thanks for joining us at Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
