Join Kim Munson as she navigates through the complexities of current world politics, focusing on the pressing issue of individual freedom versus governmental force. With a rich dialogue on socialization impacting essential sectors like transportation and housing, this episode stresses the need for independent voices that strive for truth. Kim’s engaging conversation with Marine veteran Paula Sarles about the USMC Memorial Foundation will tug at your heartstrings as they discuss the role of military honors in our society. Also tune in for useful insights on insurance from the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team and legal support from Bozen
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It’s the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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The socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing, and water. What it means is that government controls it through rules and regulations.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Is it Wednesday already, Producer Joe?
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It is Wednesday. Happy Wings Day.
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Happy Wednesday. That means it’s Wings Day at Hooters restaurants. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. And that’s for to go or to dine in. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster and Colorado Springs. And when the girls come over once a month, I always partake in that because they come over on Wednesdays. And so again, Hooters restaurants, Wings Day, Wednesday, and they are known for their wings. So be sure and check that out. The website is my website is Kim Munson. That’s M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And while you are checking out the website, be sure and sign up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. And it will highlight the upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. We rolled out two essays today. This last weekend, and I got to take a quick look at this, Joe, because I think Facebook, I think that maybe they, we’re just not, we don’t have the amount of likes that I really thought that we would regarding the featured article with Alicia Garcia. So let me check. She says, license to disarm the tyranny of Senate Bill 25003. So maybe organically we need to, well, There’s 2,500 likes on it, so maybe I am misspeaking. Maybe we didn’t have Facebook shadow banners. I don’t know. We’ll have to watch out for that. And then Pam Long did a great piece as well regarding RFK Jr. and what he’s doing over at the Health and Human Services Foundation. department so be sure and check both of those out and again you will find out what uh what essays we have each weekend and we’ll be rolling out one with alan thomas this week and all that is at the weekly from the weekly newsletter You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. And the text line, and I do want to hear from you, is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us and all of our sponsors. I know each and every one of our sponsors personally, and they all strive for excellence as they are serving their clients. And we are an independent voice on an independent station, and we are searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s never compassionate nor altruistic. to take other people’s rights property freedom livelihood opportunity their childhoods or their lives via force force can be a weapon policy unpredictable in excess of taxation fear coercion government-induced inflation the world economic forms agenda played out by the globalist elites and the united nations the colorado state legislature The Colorado governor, land use codes, zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, and the list goes on and on. But remember, if something is a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. An idea should be able to stand on its own. without any coercion. And so that’s why you need to take a look at these issues through that particular lens. And let’s see, what’s the next thing that I want to tell you? Let’s get over here to our word of the day. And it’s a fun word to say, and that is bodacious. It’s spelled B-O-D-A-C-I-O-U-S, and it could be remarkable or impressive. It could be sexy, usually used regarding women, or audacious and gutsy. And so I would say that we need to be bodacious as we are standing up for freedom. And so the word is spelled again, B-O-D-A-C-I-O-U-S. And you’ll have a lot of fun using that word in a sentence today. Richard, that’s a call out to you to be able to do that. And I know that you will figure that out. Let’s see, our quote of the day. I went to John D. Rockefeller. He was born in 1839. He died in 1937. He was an American industrialist and philanthropist. He founded Standard Oil Company, and that dominated the oil industry and was the first great U.S. business trust. And he is a major historical figure behind the famed Rockefeller family. I know there’s a lot of different opinions about them. And widely considered the richest American and biggest philanthropist in history. But I love this quote. He said this. He said, I always tried to turn every disaster into an opportunity. And so all of us will be facing things in our lives. But if you could take a disaster and turn it into opportunity, that would be great. When I interviewed Jake Jabs, founder of American Furniture Warehouse, And it was just a fascinating conversation. He’s in his 90s now. He walks every day. But he said that every day, if something would present itself, he said, what can I learn from this? And I think that that builds resiliency because bad things happen. We have things come down the pike where a challenge or whatever. And if you can sit back and say, hey, what can I learn from this? It’s going to make life a lot better. So be sure and look at life that way. So, again, I think that’s a great quote of the day. I always try to turn every disaster into an opportunity. And speaking of opportunity, be sure and check out the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. We have created something that is so cool. And I know that you’re all so busy out there. I know with over 700 bills and resolutions that have been presented down at the State House, and this legislative session will be over on May 6th. And so they’re going to really be doing a lot of things the next couple of weeks here. So we’ve got two weeks. But the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, all volunteers, and we are financed by all of your memberships, so please join us. It’s only $25 a year. And we invested significantly, and Zach created a Cut Engaged, where you can actually weigh in on different pieces of legislation. It’s super easy. And we have our position on the piece of legislation from CUT. If you want to put in some additional comments, you can. You don’t have to. And then that will be sent to the bill sponsors, the main sponsors, as well as you can choose to add in your state senator and your state representative. So yesterday, I did four of them, the most recent four, and two really bad ones. One is the 1312, which is the transgender bill, which basically says that if you do not affirm your child’s gender confusion, which they’re teaching like crazy at school, then you could have your children taken away from you. And the other is that if you don’t affirm somebody’s gender dysphoria or gender confusion out in the marketplace, out in the public, you could be accused of being discriminatory. And so if you want to weigh in on these particular bills, go to coloradotaxpayer.org. At the top, click on Cut Engaged and you will see bills that we’ve selected for you to be able to take positions on them. And then just click on the bill and it will bring it up and you can put in your name, your email, If you decide that you want to put something additional in as far as comments, you can do so. And at that point, you can just hit send. Or if you want to add in your state senator and your state representative, and you should know who they are, we’ve got a great little tool for you to figure that out. And so the four that we have just most recently, and we will be publishing another four, a little bit later today, but is Senate Bill 257. And the title on it is Modifying General Fund Transfers to the State Highway Fund, but taking away more money from roads and bridges for other stuff. And if you think that our highways are in okay shape, then fine. But if you don’t like what’s happening regarding our highways, our roads, our bridges, you might want to weigh in on that one. Then I love this one, 1215, redistribution of the lottery fund. So they’re making some changes. It was promised one thing and they’re changing that. 1312, I mentioned the legal protections for transgender individuals. I do hear that this bill may be in trouble, which we want it to be in trouble. We’d like it to go away. But if you want to help make that happen, be sure and go to coloradotaxpayer.org and weigh in. And the last one is the House Resolution 1023, where the Democrats at the House are putting forward this resolution to sue… So that Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, they’re trying to sue and ask about the constitutionality of that because they want all the money. And TABOR is, it really is a protection for us, the taxpayer. So you can weigh in on all of that. I did want to mention the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And there is a lot that can keep us up at night, but your insurance coverage should not be one of those things. And so to understand what you have and make sure that you have the coverage that you need, be sure and reach out to them for a complimentary appointment. That number is 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan Team is there.
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Only in America do we get to live… Now, granted that it is under attack, it’s always been under attack, but it is because of our military and our veterans that we have this liberty, and we need to make sure that we honor them. And I’m so pleased that I’ve become friends, or she’s become my friend, and that is Paula Sarles. She is the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation. She is a Marine veteran. She’s a Gold Star wife, and she cares deeply about our military and our veterans. Paula Sarles, welcome to the show.
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Well, thank you, Kim. Good to be with you this morning.
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Well, and it was great to see you. We had a great birthday celebration for our friend Henry Jones this last weekend, and thanks to Joan Anello for that. So it was great to see you, although you were at one side of the table and I was at the other, so we didn’t really get to chat very much.
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No, not a lot, but it was a good time.
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It was a great time. But another great time is right around the corner, and that is the second annual Marine Memorial Golf Tournament. So tell us, it’s May 15th. Give us an update on this.
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Well, it’s May 15th at Castle Pines, the ridge at Castle Pines, and we have an 8 o’clock shotgun start. And Lynn Lyle has offered a Chevy Colorado truck for our Hole-in-One Challenge. We have a few other good Hole-in-One prizes, too. So I encourage everybody to go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org and register to come out and play. Or you can register and just come for lunch, but we’d like to have players come, too.
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Well, as I’ve been saying on the show, this is a great way to support the memorial, have a great round of golf, and meet some great people. And I think this is probably one of the first golf tournaments of the season, so I’m glad that you’re doing this early, Paula Sarles.
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Yes, we decided it would be fun to be one of the first for the season, and everybody just had a great time last year. We had so much fun. And we didn’t really know what we were doing, but it turned out great. So hopefully this year it will too.
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Well, and it seems like the first time.
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It’s a beautiful place.
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Well, yeah, and people don’t always get the opportunity to play there. But, Paula, I have found it seems like the first time you do something, whether or not it’s going down a ski slope or whatever, you don’t know quite what to expect. And so I think that’s the most difficult time. So now you’re all pros for the golf tournament this year.
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Yep, we know what we’re doing a little bit better and everything’s falling in place. It’s really going to be great.
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And, gosh, I think people should be practicing on trying to get that hole-in-one.
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I think they should.
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That’s a great prize. It definitely is. Give us an update on the memorial, where we’re at on that. I know you’ve been working diligently to raise the money. We’re right around the corner also for Mother’s Day and Father’s Day, which buying a brick that will be on one of your pathways of service is a lovely gift. I’ve purchased… two bricks, one for my father to honor his service in the Air Force, and then one for my father’s cousin that was killed at Pearl Harbor. And it really is a lovely gift. And I actually, I know that I’d had a Marine that said, gosh, I would like the Marine Memorial to only recognize Marines. But I know that you thought it was important to at least have one pathways of service for the other branches as well, Paula.
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well when the memorial was dedicated it was dedicated to honor marines and remember all who serve so when we have our services we remember everyone and we often have a speaker that might not be a marine on veterans day most especially but it just is we all serve together and A lot of people, when we interviewed everyone to come up with the design, we interviewed like 1,200 people. And they all said they wanted some way to recognize a brother or a friend they served with. And so we came up with the path of service, or walk of service, I’m sorry. And that honors all branches of service. And a lot of Marines are donating their brick on the walk of service. So I think it hit a chord there.
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Well, and so with Mother’s Day, Father’s Day right around the corner, I have to say it was one of the most treasured gifts that I ever gave my father. He passed on at the end of 2023. And so we received this beautiful certificate, and he had that in his room on the wall. And he always said to me, Even like freedom of speech. I mentioned this bill regarding discrimination. And freedom of speech, we want people to be respectful and think about what they’re saying. But freedom of speech is so important. And sometimes people might say something that you might disagree with. And my father always said to me that he served prison. our country for four years because he wanted to make sure that people had our freedoms and freedom of speech and so when he received that certificate to honor those four years of service to our country it was really a special gift for him paula right and that certificate is just a lot of people have used it as gifts and they just everyone loves it so
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I think it’s a nice memento of what you’re doing, and it’ll hold the place until we get things going to do the remodel, which may take some time because we have to get the land across the street from the state.
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I know. You’re trying to talk to CDOT about that, right? Right. Okay. Well, if anybody can talk them into it, I think it might be Paula Sarles.
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Well, we do have a compelling case.
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So how can people register for the golf tournament, buy a brick? Where can they go to make that happen?
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USMCMemorialFoundation.org.
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Okay. And the golf tournament is May 15th. And again, be thinking ahead for Father’s Day or Mother’s Day and get that brick ordered as well.
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We also have an auction, a silent auction, that’ll be up on the webpage hopefully today. And there’s some great prizes in there. And our friend Ruben Archuleta made us a special cane for the auction. So people will be interested in seeing that.
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Okay, and that’s at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Paula Sarles, thank you for all the great work that you do. Okay, thank you, Kim. And again, to register, usmcmemorialfoundation.org, or to buy a brick to honor your military service or your loved one’s military service, that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And on our headlines here… This is from the National Review, and it says, Colorado Senate Democrats pass a bill to block ICE deportation efforts. And this was on Monday, and it’s providing a series of new legal protections for illegal immigrants in Colorado to shield them from the Trump administration’s ongoing mass deportation efforts. And speaking of that, we will be posting this on the Colorado Union of Taxpayer website today. There was also legislation that was passed to put $4 million into a fund to have money for attorneys for Colorado to fight any of the policies of Trump. And that’s a very bad bill as well. But anyway. Senate Bill 25276 would add new limitations on where immigration and customs enforcement agents could operate in the state, prohibit local governments from sharing key information with ICE, and make it easier for noncitizens to get their guilty pleas to misdemeanor charges vacated so they could more easily obtain legal status. Says the bill passed the state Senate on a near party line vote, 22 to 13, with one Democrat joining Republicans in opposition. State Senator Kyle Mullica said he needed more time to understand a series of proposed amendment, according to a news report. And it says the proposal is intended to build on existing protections for illegal immigrants that are already enshrined in Colorado law. And so if we didn’t think that we’re trying to out California, California, you can just take a look at what’s happening down at the state legislature. And again, this legislature has two more weeks. And who knows what’s going to be proposed over the next two weeks. But that’s why you want to know what’s going on. And in order to do so, you should have the Colorado Union of Taxpayers email in your toolbox. And you can join us by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. That is coloradotaxpayer.org. And I do want to say thank you to my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayer board members. We had our board meeting on Monday night. Just an amazing group of people. I’m very blessed to get to work with them and all volunteers. And that is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. When you see these folks out there, be sure and say thank you to them. And then also the Center for American Values located in Pueblo is another nonprofit that I highlight on a regular basis on the show. And they are doing amazing work. First of all, it’s a very reverent place with the portraits of valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients and their quotes. I’d recommend that you also pick up the quote book while you’re there. And they also do educational programs. And then Drew Dix, co-founder of the Center, Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. has started a podcast. And so you want to check that out as well. All that is at their website, which is americanvaluecenter.org. That is americanvaluecenter.org. And I really am so blessed to work with amazing people. And they were in the studio earlier this week. That was Karen Levine and Lauren Levy. But for everything regarding residential real estate, you really need to have Karen Levine on your side of the table. And her number is 303-877-7516.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that empowers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And I am thrilled to have on the line with me Daniel Turner. He is the founder and executive director of Power the Future. Daniel Turner, welcome to the show.
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Kim, thanks so much for having me back. It’s always great to be on with you and your listeners.
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Well, it’s great to have you. And do you like what I added on regarding Laramie Energy? Because you were one of the guests on our Climate Conversation podcast, but I added in that we can oil, coal, natural gas, that we can change our own personal climate. And I’ve been very proud of that one. What do you think?
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I thought it was excellent. I love all of your lines for your show, especially Force vs. Freedom. If something is a good idea, it shouldn’t be forced. And this is a wonderful addition, right? We all have the ability to change the climate around us, our own individual contribution to the planet, because we do contribute to the planet. But that’s never the conversation. Actually, yesterday being Earth Day… There were so many studies out about numbers. Eighty percent of Europeans want the government to do more to fix the climate and 70 percent of Californians want. But everything was about what others should do. There’s very little conversation on the environmental left about what you individually could do individually. We all know Bernie Sanders and Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez could stop taking private jets to their oligarchy tour, but they haven’t done so. Individually, we know people like Leonardo DiCaprio, who was just praising the recently deceased Holy Father. for his climate engagement. Leonardo DiCaprio could give up his private yachts, but he’s not going to do that. They want forces. They want governments. They want world action. But very few people really want to take responsibility in their own life. And that’s the conversation I think the environmental left should be having. But isn’t it more fun to tell other people what to do than you do it yourself?
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Well, so it’s really about control. And what I really have learned from doing the documentary, A Climate Conversation, and then through many conversations and the great podcast series that we have done, is that really this is all about control. Because, as you mentioned, if these elitists were serious, they would not be taking their jets off. around the world to the different conferences that they go to. So it’s really about control. And that’s why I think the piece that you recently had published at Power the Future, I think is a really important piece regarding Ohioans have a choice whether or not they want to go down the road of the Trump agenda of energy freedom, I would say, or California. So tell us about that.
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Yeah, you know, one of the lasting legacies of the Biden administration bad legacies, of course, was that it did hook a lot of states on free money. The Biden administration knew how to get their green agenda through, and that was giveaways at the state and local level. And every politician likes free money. It takes a very disciplined and very serious politician to reject free cash that comes from D.C., And so what happens, and it was in that cash dries up or it disappears, as the Trump administration is doing, these politicians are stuck in a lurch. And Ohio is one of these examples of hundreds of millions of dollars in wind and solar tax credits and subsidies, etc., Well, that money is now gone. And so the Ohio legislature is trying to pass it into law, saying, well, we need to find this money in different ways. We need to compel utilities that by X year, 50 percent of our electricity has to come from wind or X percentage has to come from solar. And what they’re trying to do is they’re trying to codify bad policy that was at the federal level. And this is Ohio. Ohio, most of my life, Ohio was the swing state, was the purple state. That’s not Ohio anymore. Ohio is a very red state. It’s the home of Vice President J.D. Vance. If red Ohio can pass bad energy laws. It shows you how bad and how addictive the green agenda can be. And our point in this was saying take the hard road. Take the hard road of free markets, of giving energy companies and utilities freedom to do what is best for their constituents, what is the most reliable, what is the most affordable, and don’t get suckered into this. We’re going to be clean or green or renewable, which all we know has done is drive up rates. made it a less reliable grid and been the source of pain and misery nationwide. So it’s a telling point for Ohio, as well as a lot of states, what direction they’re going to go. Are they going to go freedom or are they going to go force?
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Well, I was out in California recently, Daniel, and gas prices are significantly higher than they are in Colorado at this particular point in time. And I can shop around. I actually filled up the other day for $2.69 a gallon. But I was thinking about California, got a good price there at like $4.50 something. And just think about the wealth transfer of people of… filling up their gas tank, a difference of $2 a gallon, that’s, say, 10 gallons, that’s 20 bucks. Every time somebody puts in 10 gallons of gas, think about the wealth transfer over time. That gets to be real money for everyday people that are trying to just keep it together out in California.
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It is. And California’s exorbitantly high gas prices are all because of government. There are places like Hawaii where gas prices are expensive because they don’t have refining capacity. Every gallon of gas has to be tankered in from the mainland. So, of course, gas is going to be expensive. And I think people realize that. But California, this is just purely because of a green agenda that punishes the fossil fuel industry. Three refineries are closing in the next couple of months in California because they have made it so difficult to operate that they’re just closing up shop. That’s going to drive prices even higher because Californians are not getting rid of gas-powered vehicles anytime soon. All that means is they’re going to have to bring it in from another state, add on transportation costs. So who’s benefiting? Politicians get to say, look how green we are. We’ve shut down another refinery. But for the average Californian, life becomes very unaffordable. And what happens in California, as we’ve been seeing in a lot of these very deeply blue states, the people leave. They vote with their feet. People can’t afford to live in California. They can’t afford to live in my home state of New York. They can’t afford to live in New Jersey. So they’re moving to freer states that are more economically viable. It’s part of the mystery, the miracle of the migration from California to Colorado 20 years ago. But now Colorado is becoming very expensive, too. And so people are moving to Wyoming or to Idaho. So these patterns are going to continue until governors and governments realize that they have to stop punishing immigrants. their constituents for the mere crime of being alive.
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Well, and I think sometimes, Daniel, that we in Colorado right now are trying to out-California California. And the state legislature is in session right now. It meets every year, 120 days. We’ve got two more weeks. And who knows what’s going to happen here in the next two weeks. But there’s a couple of bills that we will be posting on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. bills or resolutions that have been introduced down at the state house this is not representative government here in in colorado daniel this is a bill mill uh with uh with agendas and and one of those this is senate bill 55 and uh if you um want to take a position on it now it’s passed already but we did want to let the sponsors know about this and it’s um regarding youth involvement in environmental justice. This is a bill here in Colorado. It’s hard to believe.
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Yeah, and the environmental justice movement is one that is completely fabricated. It’s an excuse to appropriate money. It’s an excuse to indoctrinate children with this very leftist, neo-Marxist agenda, all disguised as, of course, justice. And that is how the left operates. They use our values against us. whether it’s tolerance, whether it’s choice, words that we generally like and value. And justice is another example. They try to sneak in their agenda. Environmental justice is a made-up phrase. But it gave the Biden administration the power to appropriate billions of dollars to leftist groups to push an agenda. And it’s being pushed upon our children. It’s being pushed in classrooms. It’s pushed in our churches. There’s no reason why the government should ever force any agenda on children, especially considering the fact that nationwide our children, 40% of our children cannot read, write, or do math at grade level. But they do know about justice, and they’ll consider that a win. I think it would be a win if our kids were actually educated instead.
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You think? So another one I wanted to mention, Daniel, and this is Senate Bill 286, and this would institute, it’s currently in committee, additional fees and penalties upon petroleum products. And again, that’s going to make life more expensive, not only for producers and for exploration, but for everyday people as we try to fuel our lives and our hopes and dreams.
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Yeah. And, you know, if you want an alternative to petroleum-based products, then that is the beauty of the marketplace. You can go ahead and create them or you should forego them in your personal life. But none of those legislators will forego any of that whatsoever. They will not forego vacation. They will not forego medicines and diapers and straws and the millions of products from laundry detergent. I’m not saying we should ingest them. I’m not saying, you know, that they are, we have to be using them responsibly. But, you know, if you’re a legislator pushing this and you’re home tonight And you’re putting away your leftovers in Tupperware or covering it with saran wrap. Those are petroleum products. You put in a little Ziploc bag to take to work tomorrow. Those are petroleum products. And they’ve made our lives better, healthier, more convenient. There are things that should be celebrated and not punished. But this is, again, that agenda of the left. fossil fuels are bad petroleum products are bad and and what we need is this 180 degree shift that these are wonderful things that brilliant minds have given to us and they have made us more hygienic they’ve helped us live longer they’ve helped us breathe easier quite literally breathe easier and we should be proud of the millions of products that come from This product that’s 14,000 feet below our feet called crude, and we’ve turned it into Ziploc bags, that’s something to celebrate. Isn’t it sad the way the left can’t ever celebrate our accomplishments? All they do is denigrate, they attack, they demonize. They’re the most joyless people on the planet by far, and they need to be defeated. I don’t want to coexist with them. I just want to defeat them.
SPEAKER 17 :
Daniel, it’s so interesting that you would say that because I was thinking about this yesterday. The leftist activists, they’re really anti-human, anti-God, but they don’t appreciate anything of beauty. And any of creation, they’re all about destroying things. And I thought that is so sad to live a life of not enjoying any of the beauty, the beautiful music, the beautiful sunsets, the beauty that is out there. And I thought that is such a big difference between really freedom and then people that want to control lives is they don’t appreciate creativity and beauty.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, they don’t. And that’s why beauty and creation and art has always come from the West and Judeo-Christian cultures that are deeply imbued with a sense of God, of human dignity. We are the ones who create magnificent things, and it’s why the environment, the left in particular, destroys them. their movement is one of stopping traffic, laying down in the roads, right? Destroying art, pouring soup or defacing it. It is one of destruction. It is not one of uplifting. And if you really believe your cause is noble and just, you would want to win people over to it with something positive. Why should I believe you? You know, it would be very different if Jesus tried to, for the couple days after Easter, if Jesus spent his three years of ministry beating the crap out of people who didn’t follow him. People say, I don’t want to be a friend of that guy. It would be very different if he just destroyed. And don’t get me wrong, he did flip over tables in the temple when they defied him. But he attracted people to his message because of what he stood for, not of what he stood against. And the left is not for anything. Heck, we see that in the modern Democrats right now. They’re not for anything. They’re just against. They’re against Trump. They’re against fossil fuels. They’re against MAGA. They’re against Elon Musk. They’re against us. They’re against. They just want to stop, stop, stop. What a horrible way to go through life. And it’s not surprising that when you see them on TV. or interact with them, they’re just angry, they’re bitter, they’re deeply misanthropic, they’re full of hatred. What a horrible, horrible way to go through life. You have to feel bad for them.
SPEAKER 17 :
I guess so, Daniel Turner. Let’s continue the discussion. Let’s go to break, though, because the show comes to you because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I did mention the Climate Conversation documentary. You can watch that for free at ClimateConversation.com. And Eric had texted me that it was on Newsmax I think early on either Saturday or Sunday morning this last week. So they do play that on a regular basis there. I’m talking with Daniel Turner. He is the founder and executive director of Power the Future. And you added some things to the website since I looked at it yesterday. But one of the things there that I think is important is tell us about this Energy Policy Roadmap program.
SPEAKER 08 :
for 2025 that you’re creating yes we we put this out at the end of of last year after we knew the results of the election and the future of the congress uh you know we recognize that when new people are elected they run on great ideas and great positions and then they get into office and governing is very different than than campaigning and so every time there’s an election we do put out a road map for the elected officials, for their staffers to say, these are things that are priorities in our issue set. And so this roadmap was put together for both the Congress and the Trump administration to say, these are energy priorities for the country. I understand you’ve got to find your office and hire a staff and figure out how to walk from your office to the Senate floor, because it’s very cavernous having worked in the Senate 30 years ago. But while you’re doing the functional stuff of becoming a newly elected official or a newly appointed member of the Department of Interior or Department of Energy or the EPA, we want to help give you some ideas of what are important. And so we put out 10 priorities. I think eight of them have already been accomplished by this administration. We made sure they got their hands on it. We sat down with all of these folks in person and walked them through it. And so it’s great to see that they took energy very seriously. The president does take energy seriously. I think he’s humble enough to recognize he doesn’t know the energy issue. He knows to appoint the right people who know energy. And is there a better example of that than Chris Wright, native of your great state? To see him on TV, to listen to him. I’ve listened to him for more than a decade now and always admired him. And to see him in this position saying the same things he’s always said, but now having the power to put them into play is a remarkable day for America. It really does. It fills you with a lot of hope and a lot of enthusiasm.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and and hopefully that that’s going to I don’t know what’s going to happen here in Colorado right now, because this governor and this legislature, they’re doing everything they can to make it more and more difficult to develop and explore for natural gas and oil. And they’re trying to shut down the coal industry as well. So we’ve got a lot of work to do here in Colorado. But you did post three different things yesterday. And the first one was Earth Day 2025. The climate alarm clock goes silent. So tell us about that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, you have to remember, I said just a little while ago, you have to feel bad for the left. Yesterday in particular, you had to feel bad for them because it was it was their day. Right. It’s pagan Easter Earth Day. It’s a very big deal on their calendar. And yet no one cared. And no one cared because an existential crisis is no longer existential when cooler things pop up. And it’s cooler now to be anti-Elon Musk. It’s cooler now for the left to be in El Salvador and advocate for the release of MS-13 gangsters. And that’s where the momentum of the—it’s cooler to say, I’m going to fight oligarchy. And that’s where the momentum is. And If today is your—yesterday was your big day, your Earth Day, and there were no celebrations, there were no concerts, there were no screaming leftists on the National Mall talking about the end of time. We’ve had so many doomsday clocks. King Charles created a doomsday clock in England. The U.N. has a doomsday clock. The end is nigh in the climate movement, but suddenly it’s not. only because there are more important things to talk about. And so the few climate advocates who haven’t who have not foregone or given up the cause, they got to be really lonely because yesterday no one was at their party. And it just shows you how this entire movement was based on lies. It was based on grift. It was based on opportunism. And that’s why it’s fizzled out.
SPEAKER 17 :
So super interesting, and I didn’t really realize that was the pagan Easter. I hadn’t really thought about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s what I call it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Very, very creative. So next thing posted yesterday is, why is the U.S. lending $5 billion to an American natural gas competitor?
SPEAKER 08 :
Ugh. Kim, this is one of those things that I tell people I used to have a full head of hair before I did this job, and you just don’t understand how things like this happen. This agency in Washington, D.C., which is called the Export-Import Bank, that is taxpayer-funded, the president of the bank is appointed by the president of the United States. The president of the bank has to be confirmed by the Senate. This is a government agency that is supposed to increase American exports. It should be abolished completely, but it for some reason still exists. And with its taxpayer monies, it gets to fund little pet projects. And one of the pet projects that it funded is a French company that wants to build a natural gas pipeline in Mozambique. And they’re going to – they funded the project saying, well, when they build the pipeline, they’re going to use some American products and they’re going to use some American tools. And so ultimately they’re going to buy some American things to build this pipeline. But the end result of the pipeline is that we are funding an industry – which will directly compete with america’s natural gas industry and why would we want to do that no offense to the people of mozambique no offense to the country of france or this french company that is going to own and operate the pipeline why would we ever want to finance the creation of an industry which will be america’s competitor and if you say well we’re going to have some exports in the process Well, we could export a lot of uranium technology if we build a nuclear power plant in Iran. Would we support that? No. We could export a whole lot of weaponry if we funded more wars overseas. And that is something that, sadly, a lot of people advocate. They say, well, this is good for munitions factories in America. But does that mean we want to foment unrest other places so that munitions factories in America get to export uranium? Bullets and bombs? Of course not. It is just this short-sighted globalist view that we’re making the world a better place with American tax dollars, and we’re not. We’re making French company rich, and we’re making maybe some jobs in Mozambique, but the American tax dollar is priority. should be America first. It should not be the people of Mozambique or their industry, which is going to compete with Colorado and Texas and New Mexico and Alaska’s natural gas industry. An absolute disaster, shameful that it’s happening, shameful that there’s no way to stop it.
SPEAKER 17 :
There is no way to stop it?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no. These are one of those agencies that they have their appropriated funds and they can spend them independently. You know, a little bit like the Federal Reserve, excuse me, a little bit like the World Bank, a little bit like the World Health Organization. These quasi government agencies that get huge chunks of American dollars, but then have discretionary spending on how it’s used. that makes you scratch your head and say, then why are we funding it to begin with? It’s part of this larger globalist agenda that needs to be dissolved. And I think President Trump will dissolve them little by little. He’s only been there three months. But these are those types of agencies that are powerful, rich, and ideologically driven that directly compete with America or our interests for a globalist agenda. And that needs to come to an end.
SPEAKER 17 :
It does, most definitely. Daniel Turner, you are doing amazing work at Power the Future. And what’s your final thought you’d like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 08 :
I have received generous donations. I won’t say names, of course, because we never disclose our donors’ names. But I know they’re listening because they have written me and said, here’s a contribution for Power of the Future because I listened to you on the Kim Munson Show. And I’ve written back to them my gratitude. Some of the cards, I apologize, folks, arrived a little late. I acknowledge that. But that doesn’t mean we’re any less grateful. But I thank you for giving me the chance to talk about these issues. And I thank your listeners who have supported Power the Future. I hope they continue to support you and your donors because we are in a fight for this nation. And I’m proud to be in the fight with you, Kim.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’m proud to be in the fight with you as well, Daniel Turner. And that website is PowerTheFuture.com. So we’ll talk again really soon.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Great first hour. We’ve got another great hour coming up here, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, ma’am, we do. Daniel Turner is always fantastic, but we’re coming up with Trent Luce, too. It’s going to be so great.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and interesting, as I was texting back and forth with Trent preparing for today, he said that he’d been down in Oklahoma, down at the state legislature. Yesterday we were talking about Oklahoma because you grew up there, and yesterday was the anniversary of the land rush. And so a lot of great information. And Sandra sent this yesterday and I didn’t see it until later. She said, I love Oklahoma. Oklahoma has a lot of great museums and a wild buffalo park that you can drive through and feed them. Huh. And what’s more, he said that she says the Oklahoma folks are absolutely wonderful. Appreciate that. I’ve got to go to Oklahoma.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, ma’am, you do. It’s fantastic. And that buffalo reserve is very, very cool, too. not sure that is it safe to feed buffalo i don’t know they’re big animals i don’t know if i do that it’s kind of like feeding a cow basically i mean as long as you’re not aggressive or anything or trying to run up on them but a lot of them are used to seeing cars by that point so they’re generally friendly and know to eat food okay but don’t feed a moose or a bear if you’re up in wyoming that that would not be a good idea but a buffalo is okay so
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, I digress. Let’s go ahead and get into this. Our word of the day. I really like the word of the day. And so, Richard, it’s your challenge to use this in a sentence. Bodacious. B-O-D-A-C-I-O-U-S. Could be remarkable or impressive. It could be sexy as a sexy woman or audacious and gutsy. And I know that there are many that think that the Trump administration is very bodacious in what they are doing to get our country back turned around. so that we have government in its proper role and we have representative government. We don’t have representative government right now here in Colorado. In fact, the Democrats have been shutting down the voices of Republicans. You’re going to see a lot of disrespect by… This Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of JFK or Tip O’Neill or your grandparents. This Democrat Party has been taken over by radical activist extremists. And so we need to encourage this big, broad middle. of America, and that is blue dog Democrats, moderate Democrats, and unaffiliated, and libertarians, and Republicans, and conservatives. We’ve got to work together. We’ve got to unify around this idea of America that all men are created equal. with rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, and then protect that. We need to conserve it. And that is what I think the word conservative really is all about. So we need to be bodacious as we are out there talking with people in preserving and conserving this great American idea. Our quote of the day is from John D. Rockefeller, and I chose it because he was the founder of Standard Oil, and we’re talking about oil and natural gas today. And he said this. He said, I’ve always tried to turn every disaster into an opportunity. And so that’s John D. Rockefeller. And then in the first hour, we talked with Paula Sarles, who is the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation. She’s also a Gold Star wife. Her husband, Tony, died from complications from Agent Orange from the Vietnam War. So she’s a Gold Star wife, as well as she’s a Marine veteran. And so a great way to support the memorial is to partake or be a participant in their USMC Memorial Foundation Golf Tournament, which is on May 15th out at the Ridge in Castle Rock or Castle Pines. And so it’s a great way to support the memorial. have a great round of golf meet some great people and you can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org and then bills of the day right now we’ve got two more weeks in this legislative session and my fellow cut board members we decided to Make an investment to help you. And that is cut engaged. And that is where you can weigh in on legislation. And it’s super easy. I would say we should probably have a race. Let me know. You can text me how long that it took you to. Take a position on the four bills there at the top of the page there. Yesterday I was able to do it in less than five minutes, but I did make a comment on each one of those bills. So let me know. Go over to coloradotaxpayer.org. Click on Cut Engaged and let the bill sponsors as well as your legislator and your senator know how you feel about those particular bills. And again, while you’re there, be sure and join us. It’s only $25. and we’re all volunteers and we would really appreciate you joining us as we are working to first and foremost we can’t reclaim colorado unless we know what’s going on and one of the great tools in your toolbox to know what’s going on would be to join uh… the colorado union of taxpayers A headline that I talked about in the first hour is that the Colorado Senate Democrats passed a bill on Monday providing a series of new legal protections for illegal immigrants in the state. It’s Senate Bill 25276, and it adds new limitations on where ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agents, could operate in the state. Unbelievable. Prohibit local governments from sharing key information with ICE and making it easier for non-citizens to get their guilty pleas to misdemeanor charges vacated so they could more easily obtain legal status. And if we don’t think that elections matter, just take a look at what’s happening down at the Colorado State House. And so that’s why our Colorado 2024 election project was so important. We raised the money thanks to all of you. uh and the good lord uh for the two lawsuits that we have in place one was to fund um the legal team that uh through united sovereign americans that they had taken a look at the 2022 election all volunteers there and determined that colorado is not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by congress for our elections and each state has a lot of leeway on how they conduct their elections but they have to meet some minimum We’re not even doing that here in Colorado. So that lawsuit is in place. And then the other is with Peter Berninger with the Wisconsin Center for Election Justice. And he ended up using his Titan technology and ran really a targeted list because we were getting so close to the election. And the NIVRA, National Voting Rights Act, constrict some of the things that you can do. But as of Election Day, we ran it again. And 14,500 people voted in Colorado who should not have voted. And we can prove it. So both of those lawsuits are in place that I think will be a great compliment as we see the Trump administration trying to do some things to assure us that we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections. And then another project that we are working on is with Holly Kaysen and raising the money for their appeal. And that is Ash Epp and Sean Smith and Holly Kaysen. They had won their case that they had been sued by Mi Familia Vota. Let’s see, League of Women Voters and the NAACP. They were accused of intimidating people as they were canvassing neighborhoods after the 2020 election. And they actually won that case. And so they thought that they were going to get their legal fees paid. And there is a… A little known court case, it’s called Christiansburg, that basically says even if you are sued by an NGO, a non-governmental organization, and they lose, you still have to pay your legal fees. And so… Holly and Ash and Sean are appealing that case, but they needed $60,000 for that. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And we were talking with Daniel Turner in our number one, and he was one of our guests on our Climate Conversation podcast today. series, which you can watch those at aclimateconversation.com, as well as the documentary. You can see it there for free. But another guest was Trent Luce, sixth generation farmer and rancher, a fan favorite regarding our podcast. Welcome, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 09 :
Kind of like a fan outside today. The wind is blowing.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, that’s why I moved away from Kansas. But, hey, I misspoke in the first hour. I was talking, or maybe it was the first segment. I was talking about you and that I said you were down at the Oklahoma State Legislature. No, you were at the Tulsa County GOP in Oklahoma. And we’ve been talking about Oklahoma because yesterday was the anniversary of of the Oklahoma land rush. And Joe, producer Joe, grew up in Oklahoma. I’ve never spent any time in Oklahoma, but I want to go there. It sounds like great people. I know the wind blows, but other than that, I think I need to take a visit to Oklahoma. So what happened while you were down in Tulsa?
SPEAKER 09 :
I had a fantastic meeting with the, it was actually the women’s group of the GOP, but we had men and women and it was in the first Christian church in On Main Street in Jenks, Oklahoma, which is in Tulsa County. So it was a Tulsa County GOP meeting. And I spent quite a bit of time talking about eminent domain. Later, I was told the mayor of Jenks was in the audience who did not identify himself. And he is proposing right now taking… properties on main street via eminent domain to widen main street oh boy so there were a number of business owners in the audience that absolutely loved the fact that i was diving into the evils of eminent domain while the mayor was sitting in the audience and i had no idea
SPEAKER 17 :
So when I was on city council, I’ve told a story on the air, is we had the public works director had made a presentation. There were two things that they wanted to use eminent domain on. They were at separate times. One was to use eminent domain to take some land to put in a turn lane near the Starbucks. And the other was to use eminent domain for the landing pad for a pedestrian bridge that cost almost $7 million, which I also voted against because I didn’t think it was a good use of taxpayer money. But the public works director had said that they were having trouble getting the land and that they would probably just need to use eminent domain to do so. And I said, well, I said, I would like to see all of your communications with the owners of these properties regarding, you know, the negotiations. Because eminent domain, if they use it, they do have to compensate for the property. But I said, I’d like to see all of the communication. Well, I don’t think… Let me just put it this way. The communication was not provided, but they also didn’t use eminent domain for those two projects as well. And I had kind of said eminent domain over my dead body, and I was afraid that they might take me up on that, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and that was just to do a turn lane. Now they’d want to do a roundabout so that they could expand the amount of land needed by about four times.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, don’t get me started on roundabouts.
SPEAKER 09 :
Roundabouts are everywhere.
SPEAKER 17 :
Don’t get me started on that. So Tulsa, Tulsa County, and I hear that Tulsa is a great city, and so I’ve got to get down there and visit it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. I don’t know. Yes. Is there a great city? I’m just not a city guy. But Tulsa seems nice. I just had a fantastic meeting. And there will be a lot more come from that. There are a lot of things happening in Oklahoma that are not always really good. And I’m talking about the land grab issue. That’s why they wanted me to come and address CO2 pipelines, wind turbines, AI centers. They have a proposed AI center. And this AI center concept is just getting to be quite alarming to me in terms of the amount of resources that are needed to produce the electricity for AI centers and the amount of water that’s required to keep it cool. And from those two standpoints, it’s getting to be very grave in my standpoint from what I see.
SPEAKER 17 :
Isn’t it interesting that you don’t hear the enviros talking about these AI centers whatsoever? And you mentioned resources. So that’s going to bring up a question. A climate conversation where there was a screening recently and I was making comments at the screening and I said something about it was like the day after Trump had changed the regulations on shower heads. And all this started with light bulbs. I remember I remember those curlicue light bulbs that they were trying to force everybody to have some. Yeah. But yet then they said that they were toxic and you couldn’t throw them away. Nothing fit. But that is kind of where it really started. And we had Republicans that were on light bulb control. Then you get to shower heads for showers. And I don’t think that’s the proper rule of government. But I had a woman that came up and she said she was concerned about water and that we needed to conserve. And I… I stepped back a little bit, and I said, well, and my friend Yvonne, well, our friend Yvonne, she said, you cannot have water conservation without water storage, and enviros do not want to have water storage. And then I said to her, I’ve got to think about this. I want to do a show on this. But I also said that, for example, the Denver metro area, when you bring in 40,000 people illegally, that starts to use a lot of water. But what would you say to somebody regarding we need to conserve water? How would you address that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, first of all, I think there’s a misnomer in people understanding the amount of water that’s on Earth. We have the same amount of water on Earth we had 2,000 years ago when Jesus walked the planet. But we have more people. We have more people, and where the water is located is the real discussion. The mass amounts of water are in the oceans And yet we in the United States will send trillions of dollars to the Ukraine to fight something that we don’t need to be a part of. And yet we don’t invest in desalinating water from our oceans to provide adequate amounts of water for what we need. Why? That’s a very simple question. Why do we not invest in that?
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so let’s just think about this. I’m going to posit this question for you. So California, here in Colorado, we have to send, these upper basin states have to send a certain amount of water down the river, Colorado River, to get to Nevada and California and those states. Wouldn’t it make sense for California to desalinate water so that that would reduce their demand for water from the Colorado River, which means those upstream from that, would then have more water. Does that sound reasonable to you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, look, California is next to the Pacific Ocean. It borders the entire state north to south. They have water right there in abundance, and yet they’re relying on Colorado and snowmelt to supply the water needs. Who said this was a reasonable approach? when we know the technology exists to desalinate that water and use it and to make matters even worse one of the first california it wasn’t the one of the first the very first california initiative that i got involved with was where california in the sacramento river is protecting the delta smelt a little minnow that’s in the in the central valley and There has started restricting water access to farmers growing food so that they could put enough water, keep enough water flowing in the Sacramento River to the ocean for the benefit of the Delta Schmelt, completely ignoring the needs of the human beings. And that’s only accelerated. That fight that I got involved with for the very first time was back in 2004. And then I went through so many issues in California. In fact, in 2008, I went to California 14 times in one calendar year because it was a proposition two. And that’s what started the whole ball rolling on chickens in a cage and where we’re at today with free range hens. But if people would go back and look at the priority over a minnow above human beings and everything that we accomplish in the Central Valley, if you The fertility of the Central Valley in California is unbelievable and the amount of food that could be produced. Yolanda is absolutely right. They even passed in 2015 a ballot measure to build the infrastructure of water storage. There is no shortage of water in California. There’s a shortage of common sense. The drought is common sense because the water coming out of the mountains, and I just talked to a friend who’s on the other side of this here in Nevada’s, He told me that this year the snow melt is already accelerating way early in the year because they had like two and a half times more snow snowpack in the Sierra Nevadas. And the water is just starting to flow like crazy. It’s going to go to the ocean and be blended with saltwater. They’re supposed to be by legislative action, excuse me, by ballot initiative. They’re supposed to be building the infrastructure to have water storage and there would be zero water problems. Zero is probably never a good number, but you know. Minimum.
SPEAKER 17 :
Minimum. And again, Trent, what you’re talking about is, and we talked with Daniel Turner about it in the first hour because yesterday was Earth Day. No, that’s incorrect. Okay. Then correct me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Every day is Earth Day. They created a day to celebrate taking property and taking people’s lives. That’s why they celebrate what they call Earth Day. Every day is Earth Day.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
I like that. And your president is playing and placating right into that control. And what he sent out yesterday, what the White House sent out yesterday, is proof that he’s part of the problem.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, what did he send out?
SPEAKER 09 :
I am looking at the White House release on Earth Day, talking about on Earth Day, we finally have a president who follows science. And there’s some jargon. And there are, let’s see, five, six, seven bullet points on what Donald Trump is going to do to support Earth Day. Number one, number one priority, by supporting cutting edge technologies like carbon capture and storage, nuclear energy and next generation geothermal.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, no. Well, I like the idea of nuclear and geothermal, but I don’t like that first part. Oh, dear.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, absolutely. He’s a champion for that. And that is the same day yesterday. More great news from South Dakota. Summit Carbon Solutions had submitted to the South Dakota Utilities Council, that public utilities board, that they would get an extension on their opportunity to build the CO2 pipeline. IN SOUTH DAKOTA AND THEY VOTED TWO TO ONE TO NOT EXTEND THEIR CONTRACT TO BUILD THE CO2 PIPELINE IT’S NOT A CONTRACT IT’S AN OPPORTUNITY AND THAT EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS YEAR AND THERE IS NO WAY WITH 1052 THAT PASSED WHICH ELIMINATES EMINENT DOMAIN FOR CO2 PIPELINES AND NOW THEY DO NOT HAVE AN EXTENSION TO BUILD THE CO2 PIPELINE BEYOND THE CALENDAR YEAR 2025 You will see. You will see the White House federalized CO2 pipelines, and it is going to lead to a fight like you’ve never seen before.
SPEAKER 17 :
I hope you’re wrong.
SPEAKER 09 :
Me too.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, we’re talking to Trent Luce because this is, well, it’s the opposite of the Oklahoma land rush. And that’s where private citizens were getting to get land of their own. It seems like now the government’s trying to take land from all of us. So we’ll continue the discussion. And this happens because of great sponsors. A new sponsor of the show is the Second Syndicate.
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SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And Trent Luce is on the line. And of course, I have a suggested subject, which is, At this point, we’ve not gotten to that yet, because let’s talk a little bit more about this release on Earth Day by the White House. And so by he begins it, as you say, by supporting you can find this at the White House dot gov under news. It says by supporting cutting edge technologies like carbon capture and storage. Nuclear energy and next generation geothermal, the Trump administration’s ensuring America leads in both energy production and environmental innovation, producing clean energy. They’re ending the Biden era liquefied natural gas or the pause on liquefied natural gas exports. And so there’s some things that I like there. Where is Chris Wright on this carbon capture thing? Have you had a conversation with him about that yet? And Chris Wright is the CEO of Liberty Energy, but Chris Wright is now the secretary of the Department of Energy. So where is he at on this? Do you have an idea?
SPEAKER 09 :
I do not. I have not had a conversation with Chris Wright since he went into the Department of Energy.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so we don’t know yet. Okay, I’m going to go to work.
SPEAKER 09 :
My opinion is it won’t matter where he’s at because I’ve known where Donald Trump is at on this since I’ve been fighting this. He’s been for it. He’s been pushing it. His confidant in all of these endeavors is Harold Hamm, who created fracking. Harold Hamm has invested millions of dollars into CO2 capture and transportation and storage. And so my personal opinion is it doesn’t matter what Chris Wright says. It’s not going to be the will of the White House to do what he wants.
SPEAKER 17 :
well we’ve got to we’ve got to work on that and you mentioned Harold Hamm and I think doesn’t he Harold from Oklahoma seems like Oklahoma he is from Oklahoma yeah okay but uh Walt Johnson had said that uh and then I know um I think George Mitchell’s daughter that he was really the one that started or studied fracking does that ring a bell the name George Mitchell with you
SPEAKER 09 :
I do know the name George Mitchell. I haven’t met George Mitchell.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, he’s passed on now.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
So, well, that’s another discussion. So let’s go ahead. Next thing, though, it says President Trump is championing sound forest management. I like that idea, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 09 :
I do, too. Absolutely like that idea. As we continue to have the Forest Service trying to put two young people with families in South Dakota in prison for 10 years.
SPEAKER 17 :
Where’s the update on that?
SPEAKER 09 :
The update is that we had a fantastic meeting. I don’t remember if we talked about this last week, but we have 17 state elected officials in South Dakota that came together and said this is absolutely an atrocity. It must end now. And instead of ending it, they moved the trial date from April 29th, it was to be next Tuesday, until August maybe 18th. The trial date is delayed.
SPEAKER 17 :
Why? What was their reasoning?
SPEAKER 09 :
Don’t have a reason.
SPEAKER 17 :
Aha. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I want to, not that I’m steering this, but there’s something I want to get to that ties into the CO2 pipelines. It ties into what so many people in Colorado are dealing with, with the transmission lines. And I learned yesterday, and this may be the most biggest breakthrough that I’ve uncovered as I’ve been championing property rights in this land grab i was in wichita after i left tulsa i went to wichita and had a couple of hours with mike andre who owns a radio station in wichita that’s beside the point he has had some land that has been targeted for transmission lines since 2017. he received his first packet in 2017 they told him that he needed to sign an easement And they continued to tell him that, well, your land is probably not going to be in our path, but we just want to have an easement so that we have a safeguard. And Mike is the kind of guy that’s like, something doesn’t ring right there. Why would they tell me this? And so what Mike did is he went to the courthouse, got documents on two neighbors that he knew had already signed easements for this transmission line. And what Mike uncovered by looking at the, you know, every courthouse has a document. I’ve gone into courthouses in Nebraska and got land that Bill Gates owns. You can look at everything that’s going on with that land from a tax base, and that’s a public record. You can have access to it. So Mike went in and asked for two neighbors that he knew had signed easements, and what he found is that there had been mortgages placed – to a bank by the conservation easement company, which in this case was Transmission Line, Sunflower Electric to be exact, and $500 million in his area in two counties, he found that these electric companies had used the easement as a mortgage to secure new loans. He went and talked, and he showed the owners, the two owners, and those two owners that he had pulled the data on had a list of all the people that this easement company had acquired mortgages on on the backs of somebody else’s property. They did not know, nor did their banks know that had the first lien, that the easement had actually led to a mortgage on their property. Well, now we’re talking about the potential and the momentum is building for a class action lawsuit. But I want to just pause for a moment because I’m on a new quest. How many people who have signed an easement have unknowingly had the easement writer put a lien or use their property as mortgage to acquire a loan? So I talked to some of the people in South Dakota who have been fighting this on the CO2 pipelines. I was told yesterday that it clearly says right in the easement that is signed that we reserve the right to use this easement in mortgaging your property. And people don’t read the fine print. Kim, I’m telling you that when you talk about, this was a perfect segue, Oklahoma and the land rush, this is a land grab rush to take away our right to own property. Because what happens is Because here’s what they do. So I figured out, sat down with Mike and we strategized. So all of this is contingent upon a tax credit, right? The money that goes to the developer is a tax credit. Well, they don’t get that tax credit up front, so they have to find their own investment. So they are aggressively seeking easements in order to use that easement to secure a loan to build the said infrastructure, which then in turn, once it’s complete, they get their tax credits.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, we got to get rid of the tax credits.
SPEAKER 09 :
You’re absolutely right. But let’s just say we got rid of tax credits right now. Every person who signed an easement is going to lose their property because the tax credits aren’t going to follow. So what’s going to happen? They’re going to go back to the bank and they’re going to take the land that you signed up for. So eliminating the tax credit is actually going to be a snowball of people losing their land.
SPEAKER 17 :
So when these people signed an easement, were they paid for the easement? Why would they sign it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, they were paid. Okay. They’re paid, and every one of them I talk to tells me the same thing. Well, you know, I just don’t think it’s a good idea. By the way, these easements are for perpetuity.
SPEAKER 17 :
Never sign anything for perpetuity, ever.
SPEAKER 09 :
These easements are for perpetuity, or even if it’s 99 years, is that not perpetuity? No. And every person I’ve talked to who signed an easement said, I just don’t think it’s a good idea. But I knew my neighbor was going to do it, so I had to take the money because we won’t be able to compete if we don’t have the money.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and so and then that we you and I’ve talked about this, that the property taxes and our ranchers and our farmers, they’re getting squeezed with property taxes and their input costs. And so if if they can get some cash by putting an easement on their property and the problem is, is not understanding what’s going on, but they’re getting squeezed. You can see how that that would seem like that would be helpful for them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and that, too, is part of the plan in my assessment, assessment being the key word, because we just got our new Sherman County assessed value. Our property is going up again. I believe it was 8%. You continue to have property valuations go through the roof, which increases the cost of your rent. You own property, pay a mortgage, but now you have a property tax, which is equivalent to paying rent to the government to say you own it. Ours is now at $1,000 a month of rent, which is our property tax. But when you continue to increase the property taxes where you cannot pay the property tax based upon what the production is, even in states like Kansas that has a formula, Kansas has a formula where your property tax is based upon what the potential to produce on this property is. But within that formula is the property valuation. And so as the valuation goes up, The cost of property tax goes up, which means you can’t pay for it with $4 corn or even what’s going on with the wheat crop. So somebody comes along and says, we’re going to give you a subsidy or we’re going to give you an easement. You sign this, we’ll give you a subsidy. You have just given away your right to your property for your next generation, generations to come.
SPEAKER 17 :
This is serious, Trent Luce, absolutely serious. So we’re going to continue the discussion. We’ve got some things coming in on the text line 720-605-0647. That’s 720-605-0647. And, gosh, speaking of class action lawsuits, I don’t know if this is in John Bozen’s wheelhouse, but I know that if you’ve been injured, you certainly want to give Bozen Law a call. And I’m just perplexed on this. We’ll be right back.
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And it’s a great day to be.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is a great day to be alive. It’s a great day to be in the fight. And glad to be in this battle of ideas with Trent Luce, sixth generation farmer and rancher. But did want to mention the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado. Pueblo is a really special place. I was down there last week emceeing an event with Norma Donlan, and she was born. in one of the Japanese internment camps in World War II, and just a fascinating story. Her husband passed on a little over a year ago, Roger Donlan, and he was a Medal of Honor recipient. I think he was the first Medal of Honor recipient from the Vietnam War. But check out the Center for American Values. It is just a really special place and they’re doing amazing work. On the line with me is Trent Luce. And oh, my gosh, you’ve just I’m going to be thinking about all this. But the first question and we were talking about easements, CO2 pipelines, tax incentives. People didn’t realize that that easement’s been used for a mortgage, but you were referring to they. So who is the they that owns these easements, particularly here in Oklahoma?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, they are the developers. So let’s just use the wind developer. So if XYZ wind developer wants to put in Kansas, by the way, does not allow eminent domain for wind. That’s one of the positive things about Kansas. It does. Let’s use transmission lines because everybody allows eminent domain for transmission lines. And we’ve often asked that question. You know, in Payne County, Oklahoma, right next to where I was in Tulsa County, Bordering County, I had a guy call me over a year ago and say they want to do a transmission line but their easement they’re asking me for is 17 miles wide. How can that be? And, you know, in Colorado, we’ve heard of even bigger than that.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know.
SPEAKER 09 :
And so just stop and think about all that is encompassing in a 17-mile-wide easement. What do they need that for? And yet it looks to me like they are looking for the amount of easement needed to fund the building of the project by going to get a loan using your property if you signed an easement as mortgage as part of their collateral.
SPEAKER 17 :
So it’s probably in the easement. That’s probably, as you mentioned, it’s in the fine print, and people didn’t read it and they didn’t understand it, which is…
SPEAKER 09 :
But Mike, Andre in Wichita has a copy of the easement, and it does not state in there they reserve the right to use your easement as a mortgage or listed as collateral. It’s not in there, and they’re doing it anyway.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. I thought it was in there.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. But it does clearly say, I’ve not been exposed to an easement contract that in the fine print does not include, they always include, let me restate that, they always include, everyone I’ve been able to witness says we reserve the right to sell this easement, which people should think about that because I’ll just go back to my base knowledge, which is Summit Carbon Solutions and the CO2 pipeline proposed through Iowa, South Dakota, North Dakota, a little bit of Minnesota, and then to North Dakota. We know public disclosure says that there’s 500 companies that are partners in the Summit Carbon Solutions pipeline. It’s all started by Summit itself, which is Bruce Rastetter, who I’ve known for 30 years, by the way. But we only know of five of the 500 companies that are partnering. And that easement… Written by Summit Carbon Solutions, and by the way, a South Korean engineering company is one of the five. A South Korean company that has been fined two times $80 million by the Department of Defense is one of the five in Summit that we know of. John Deere is one of the five that we know of. But the easement itself says that we reserve the right to sell this to somebody else. My personal, I have no verification of this whatsoever, but my personal gut feeling with how I’m studying this and knowing what Saudi Arabia is doing, I believe that they are fronting for Saudi Arabia. And once those easements are signed, Saudi Arabia, the country, it could be China, but Saudi Arabia, the country, would buy those easements and actually control what you do with your property. You have no idea of knowing who will own your easement Because it says right in every one of them, we reserve the right to sell your easement. Why do I say Saudi Arabia? I say Saudi Arabia because the very lobbying firm that Summit Carbon Solutions uses based in Des Moines, Iowa, has received $1.5 million from the chamber or from the Council of Saudi Arabia. The individuals who work for Summit are also Dan Lederman of South Dakota, perfect example. He is a Summit employee, but he’s a contract lobbyist for the country of Saudi Arabia in Pierre, South Dakota. The tie between Saudi Arabia and Summit is so tight. It leads one to believe there’s something going on here. What I know for a fact is that they reserve the right to sell that easement to whoever they want. How do you sign something for perpetuity for a little bit of money today knowing that they could sell that to anybody they want to?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, but a lot of people didn’t understand. We’ve got Jim May on the line with Lavaca Meat Company from the eastern plains of Colorado. Jim, what’s on your radar?
SPEAKER 10 :
Good morning. Good morning. Can you hear me? I gotcha. Okay. Hey, because you’ve got me, I got to turn my radio down. Something’s wrong here. We are losing our ag exemption out here because we’re feeding cattle in the state of Colorado. And it’s something we’ve had for a long time. I’ve got a big conference call on it today. Not happening in Kansas or Nebraska, other places we do business. Trent, do you know anything about this?
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, ag exemption. Is that a property tax exemption, or what is that exactly, Jim?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, it is. It’s our property tax ag exemption, a big change they’re making in Colorado. Okay, I was not… Because of the fact that we do feed cattle. Cattle feeding isn’t agriculture anymore, I guess.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, boy. No, they probably consider that commercial… No, I don’t know anything about that, Jim. I know… I’m guessing they’re going to consider you as commercial instead of agriculture. And I know that the states like Texas that has an ag exemption, they’ve got a runaway problem with property tax in Texas, but it’s not real estate. There has been an ag exemption. And I had Sid Miller on the interview the other day, and he said our fight in Austin every day is to keep from them eliminating people Our ag exemption, which is exactly what you’re talking about. And I think it’s not just the cattle feed yards. I think everybody in agriculture needs to pay attention to this because it will come.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because I bet there’ll be some creep on that. Jim, let’s talk about that offline because I didn’t have that on my radar. But that is a real problem. Anything else, Jim May?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no. Good talking to you both. Kim, let’s do that offline. Let me have this meeting today and then we’ll get back together maybe after that meeting.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s a great plan. Let’s do that. Okay, and we’ve got two minutes left, Trent Luce, and Zach always says, Kim, you need to talk about the things, at least talk about the things that you put in the newsletter. And I put in the newsletter that California is threatening our food, and a recent piece that you had published, our food and our freedom. Can you give me a quick synopsis on that so that I don’t get in trouble with Zach?
SPEAKER 09 :
Were you paying attention? We already did talk about that. We talked about restricting water access to food producers. It’s been taking place for decades. In my awareness and my involvement for more than 20 years, the additional thing that’s happened that is more recent is that Point Reyes, which is off of the north of San Francisco, there’s an island where people have been grazing and the state government has just pushed the grazers off of that island. That was a specific situation. But I mean, the whole infrastructure, look at what’s happening in the Klamath River. providing irrigation to the northern part of California. They’ve now taken two of the four dams out. They’re going to take the other two out. That’s their plan. And that’s about producing food to feed people. So we did talk about it. You should pay attention.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I was paying attention, and I kind of thought so, but I wanted to make sure. So, okay. Oh, one other thing. I know we only have a minute left. On the text line it said, Trent, they’d love it if you would tag people on X, like Lee Zeldin, the EPA administrator, or Doug Burgum. with the Department of Interior. So that’s one of our requests from one of our listeners is for you to try to get them to start paying attention.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’ve known Doug Burgum too long to think he’ll ever pay attention. He’s part of the problem.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s what I like about you, Trent, is you sugarcoat everything, don’t you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
OK, well, have a great week and great conversation. And we’ve got a lot of work to do. And I don’t want to give up. I want to talk to Doug Burgum and Lee Zeldin and Donald Trump. We got to we got to get this turned around. So thanks for all you do, Trent Luce. We’ll talk next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
My pleasure. See you soon. Land rush, Oklahoma.
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