Dive into an insightful conversation on the future of Colorado’s Republican Party and the impact of major sporting events on international diplomacy. Guest Eli Bremmer, a staunch supporter of Trump and significant figure within the World Military Games Association, delves into his efforts to host this substantial event in the U.S. Facing challenges from the previous political leadership, Eli offers firsthand accounts of overcoming political adversity and working closely with military and political figures. Explore the less visible but powerful role sports can play in bridging gaps between countries and how sportsmanship can potentially lead to improved diplomatic ties.
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Actually, it’s Andy Pate, party of choice. And welcome to hour number two here on Rush to Reason. I’m Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. On the line right now, we have my favorite rhino, never Trump, America-hating guy, Eli Bremmer. Eli, how are you doing?
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It always puts a big smile on my face to be on your show, Andy.
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Hey, since you are the enemy of all good things, I have to ask, and just be honest, I know you’d be copping to a crime here, but did you steal Kristi Noem’s purse?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I’ll take the vest.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s just that there are certain elements here in Colorado who accuse you of everything else. I just didn’t know if they had gotten around to that one. I thought I’d lead the way, that’s all. How are you doing, sir?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think I’ve got an alibi, but you just never know. You never know.
SPEAKER 05 :
You never know. You never know. Okay. I know that before we get into talking about the Colorado Republican Party, and by the way, we’re not just going to be talking about all the problems that we have left behind, but also a lot of the good things that are coming up. But first, you’re doing some stuff with the Trump administration. Am I right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I’ve been working on a project now for about a year and a half. Last year, a lot of people were asking me why I had committed to working through the winter to try to get the state Republican Party back on its feet. And I had a project that was under wraps. That has come to full fruition now. I am the co-chair of the World Military Games Association. which will be coming to the United States in 2027. Awesome. It will be the first time these games have ever come. They’re the second largest games event in the world behind the Summer Olympics. So I competed in the Pan American Games and the World Military Games. These are large. And, of course, the Olympic Games, too. These are in between the size of the Pan American Games and the Olympic Games. So it’s a huge feather in the cap of the United States to have this. I’ll be blunt. We tried to get the Biden administration to approve our bid. They simply didn’t do it. They wouldn’t do it. We asked them for about nine months to give us the certification. And about a month and a half into office, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth gave his approval. So I’m thrilled to be bringing the second largest amateur sporting event in the world behind the Olympics to the United States.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, it’s not surprising, though, that you work so well with the Trump administration. For those who don’t know, I like to pick on you with the rhino and Trump hating things, because for those who don’t know, Eli is a supporter of Donald Trump and has worked with Trump before. And you worked with Trump before in helping him get elected in 2016. Is that correct?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that’s right. I did a lot of campaign spokesman work. I helped lead the Coalition of Olympians for Trump and then also the Second Amendment. So I spoke. I did a lot of national work for them. in that election, because particularly the first election, they relied heavily on coalitions to get their message out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, let’s get back to the military games. Explain this to us, because I think a lot of people don’t know exactly what that is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the World Military Games have been run for about 30, 35 years now. They run every four years, the summer before the Olympics. The last games were held in 2019. They were canceled during COVID. But the last games, they had about 10,000 athletes, 120 nations. And in the things that you can’t make up, it was held in Wuhan, China in October of 2019. Really? Are you serious? Go Google the World Military Games 2019, and you’ll discover that there’s a lot of smart people who think that that’s potentially where COVID-19 was released. I knew two athletes there, Yolody Clavel from France. And Valentin Pradas, who’s her significant other, both Olympians from France, and they got a, air quote, unknown respiratory illness in Wuhan that year. Wow. We don’t know for sure, but that may have been where a cover-up sort of started happening. If your listeners want to have some fun, you can go chase that rabbit down the hole. I don’t have any better answers than you can read about on the Internet.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I do. Because there are those here in Colorado who probably believe Eli Brammer ran the Wuhan lab, why didn’t you secure that better? Why didn’t you lock that down better, Eli? I’m kind of disappointed in you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, I’m not great at everything I do, so there might have been a little failure there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, okay. Well, okay. Now, where do they get the athletes? Are these military personnel, or is that just what’s represented? What is this?
SPEAKER 03 :
You have to be a member of your nation’s military. Okay, that’s what I figured. Yeah, so there’s an interesting back story. So right after World War II, the Allies put together… a sports consortium called CISM. It’s a French acronym, Council International du Sport Militaire, that was to bring the allied forces together under the context of sports. As the Cold War wore on, the mission, which is stated to be friendship through sports and the military, it sort of started growing, and the Soviet Union got involved. And it seemed to have a good mission to sort of grow, to bring militaries to conflict on the field of play instead of on the battlefield. During the height of the Cold War, the Russians or the Soviets put a lot of their athletes in the military to get around the amateur rules in the Olympics. And it is because of that that the games became an incredibly high-level sporting event. To put this in context, Andy, in the 2024 Paris Olympics, roughly one in 10 of the athletes was actually serving in their nation’s military. Military members won 175 medals at the Olympics. So this is not a participatory event. It’s a very high-level event. You have to be in your country’s military to compete. But winning a medal at the World Military Games is harder than winning a Pan American Games gold medal. It’s you have to basically be an Olympic-caliber athlete to get there. So it’s a really interesting event. Again, it hasn’t been heard of a lot in the U.S. I’ve been working on getting the U.S. more involved because there’s a lot of soft power here, and I’m looking forward to supporting our service members as they do that. Now, on a side note, one of the reasons why I think this was so attractive to the Trump administration and to Secretary Hegseth is that sports, the reason we compete in sports throughout the history of humanity is was to train our military warriors. And so this is really getting back to the ethos of sports trained warriors and the U.S. military is working on retooling sort of away from more social policy and into lethality. And ever since humans have had cultures and societies That’s what sports were used for. So I get excited about being a part of that. And unfortunately, it’s going to be in Charlotte, North Carolina, not here. But, you know, mark your calendars for June of 2027. It’s going to be an incredible event.
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Oh, I absolutely agree. And by the way, Pete Hegseth, I mean, come on, isn’t he ideal as the guy who would bring this in? Because let’s face it, he’s into physical fitness. He wants the military not only to be more lethal, but to be more fit in every way. His fitness standards that he’s imposing across the board are going to change the entire outlook of the military anyway. So I’m very excited. I just think this all works together. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and Andy, also, in sports, we don’t believe in things like DEI or quotas or anything like that.
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No, the best is the best.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, sports are a meritocracy. So there’s a reason why a lot of our top military officers and leaders have come out of sports. General George Patton graduated West Point in 1909. Three years later, he competed actually in my sport in the modern pentathlon in the Stockholm 1912 Olympics. So George Patton learned as a lieutenant the lessons of elite sports. And he used a lot of those lessons to become one of the top generals in our nation’s history. So I think it’s a really good thing I’ve been working with our military on leaning more into sports training because it’s a very good culture. It’s meritocracy. It’s outcome-based. I mean, on sports, there’s no excuses. No one cares if you have a cold or if you’re injured. You have to go perform. And being in the military, and I served 14 years in the military, it’s the same way. You have to perform. There’s no room for excuses. You got to get out there and get it done.
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Okay, Eli, one last question. I know that these militaries obviously have to go against each other on the battlefield in war, but when they can compete in these games, can that help bring peace? I just think for these Warriors to see each other across the way and to get to hook up and eat together and see each other in these kind of games is a good thing. What do you think?
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It absolutely does. And again, it’s not just in the U.S. that athletes grow up and become leaders. It’s in other countries, too. In fact, the reason this has happened is 25 years ago, I graduated from the Air Force Academy. The week of graduation, I went over to Switzerland to compete in the World Military Championships for my sport. It was the first time I met a young lieutenant named Milton Roland who competed for Brazil. Milton and I stayed in touch, and about a year and a half ago, he became the president of the International Military Sports Federation. He reached out to me and said, Eli, the United States should host us. We’d love to get the United States more involved. And he’s a colonel in the Brazilian military. We’ve stayed in touch ever since. And it’s because of that friendship that the United States of America, by the way, he’s from a BRICS country, a country that we’re having some tough relationships. And yet we were able to work together to bring this very prestigious event to the United States. You know, Donald Trump, one of the things I like about him as a guy who served in the military, who has had friends go to combat and die, you need to have a lethal military and it also kind of needs to be the last resort. So I strongly support any way that we can create back channel connections. And this really, really works. I was in Belgium about six weeks ago working on this. And an Iranian colonel came up to me, pulled me aside, and said, Eli, it’s really important that you guys do this. My country, don’t mistake that there are things that my country believes that we can have a better communication with your country on, and this is a great way to do it. About an hour later, I got pulled aside by a Chinese general who said basically the same thing. He said, I’m really glad you guys are stepping up to the plate. You know, my country is looking for new ways that we can engage with your country and have conversations. And I love the fact that we’re hoping to have this as a better channel for communication. So President Trump has definitely led the way on that. I think it’s been very appropriate. And again, I’m proud of playing a small part in helping make that happen.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. On the line, we got Eli Bremer. Eli, we’re going to talk about the Colorado Republican Party. And there are a lot of people who are obviously very critical of the new leadership because they represent the old leadership. Now, that’s common. I think that happens anytime there’s a passing of the torch. Anytime there’s a changing of the guard, the people for the old guard are going to be very critical of the new guard. And I think that’s fine. but i want to give some i just want to remind some people who are saying oh the new people they’re they’re not gonna they’re not gonna win they’re gonna fail they’re going everything they do is not good i want to remind people of what the old guard achieved okay and feel free i’m going to just list just a few eli feel free to jump in at any time is that fair Sounds good. Okay. First of all, I want people to understand, we just went through a red wave, a national red wave in 2024, one of the biggest ones in decades. It was fantastic. Donald Trump nationally increased his margin against the Democrat from 2020 to 2024 by 6.2%, but in Colorado only by 2.5%. barely better than 2020. That means we lost 60% of the national red wave here in Colorado. Okay, we underperformed the national red wave by about 60%. Is that true? That is correct. Okay, next. Kamala Harris failed to flip a single district in the entire country. She didn’t flip a district in the entire country. And yet in Colorado, we only gained, I think, three seats at the state capitol, maybe four. Is that true?
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That would also be correct.
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Unbelievable. Next, the Colorado Republican Party under Dave Williams endorsed in 18 contested primaries and lost 14 of them badly, most of them in landslides. Is this true? Also correct. Oh, okay. Our candidates, by the way, we talked about how we did very poorly across the board in 2024. One big problem was our candidates didn’t have money. And meanwhile, our state party spent roughly $100,000. That could have gone to candidates. They spent that on legal fees to stop or delay a vote that was eventually ruled legal. OK, the vote that was held on August 24th, I believe that vote was ruled legal by the courts. They spent about 100 grand just to stop or delay that vote. Is that correct?
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That would also be correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, that’s their track record. So, folks, when you’re looking at Britta Horn and you’re looking at her team, understand that is the track record she’s following. That is a track record of incredible failure. Eli, please tell me if I’m being unfair in any way and weigh in. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I think you’re actually being way too generous. Andy, one of the things that happened during this time was the courts ruled effectively that everything was correct, except for there was a progressive judge here in El Paso County that took a very novel interpretation of the law. In fact, so novel that the former leadership had actually argued that the same position that we did, and he said, no, I want to come to a select outcome. So but for that, we would have had a leadership transition. During that time, the now former officers were in substantial legal jeopardy and were very concerned because they were violating so many rules that there was a good chance they were going to become personally financially liable. I reached out to them through my attorney and offered to indemnify them from their, you know, what they had done and the money they cost the party under the condition that they would free up the funds that the national Republican party had sent to the state of Colorado and allow those funds to be used for the candidates.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, so you, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So you called them and said, Hey, I’m going to let you off the hook. All I’m asking is that the money the National Party has sent to you, you free it up for our candidates. You didn’t ask for any of that money to come to you?
SPEAKER 03 :
No. I asked for that money that had been sent here by the National Republican Congressional Committee to be freed up for our candidates and that our candidates would be allowed to use the state parties in Disha, which would save them like 30 to 40 percent on their mail. And what did they say to this? They absolutely wanted to until we had the progressive judge here in Colorado Springs rule against us. But they were 100% down with saving their own hides. So it’s really interesting. And by the way, that’s the first time I’ve publicly talked about this. because we were keeping those private. I had agreed that if we came to a deal, I would not disclose that because I wanted to see Jeff Hurd and Gabe Evans get elected, which they did. They were obviously quite supportive of any effort to help them, very inclusive and publicly inclusive of the work I did. So I think it’s important to understand the history of this for one reason, Andy, which is if you don’t know history, you’re liable to repeat the problems of history.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Right. And it really worries me right now because the reason I’m talking about this is because a lot of that former leadership, especially Hope Shepelman, the vice chair at the time, have been very active across social media bashing the current leadership. OK, and this just seems really crazy to me because these people who are bashing the current leadership and they’re going on Rhino Watch and they’re being interviewed by Chuck and Julie and they’re making all these rounds attacking the current leaders are the ones who had that terrible track record that I just laid out. Every bit of it was factual. OK, and kept a ton of money out of the hands of our candidates. And we only advanced like three or four seats in a massive red wave. It’s a problem. And if we don’t if we don’t look at that and tell people and these look, would you agree there are a lot of really good people who support that leadership? OK, support the Williams team. They’re good people. They’re patriots. They believe they’re doing the right thing. They believe they’re opposing rhinos who don’t like the you know, don’t like America and don’t like the Republican Party. They really believe they’re doing that. But Eli, I want people to understand here is what you are supporting. I’m not exaggerating. These things are all real.
SPEAKER 03 :
But Andy, I’ll take issue with one point. You said there’s a lot of really good people. There’s some, because there’s just not a lot of people involved with this process, which is the problem.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I’m talking, I’m not talking involved with the process. I’m talking out there in, you know, social media land, you know, who say, oh, they’re the good guys.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go ahead. I’m not sure there is even that many of them, to be honest, because this was a small faction that hijacked the Republican Party apparatus. That’s true. And and so I actually don’t think I mean, the irony was that they were fairly well hogtied, so they couldn’t do damage during the election cycle. which was one of the keys to the success of Republicans in particularly the congressional districts in the third and eighth. And I’d like to remind you that in both those districts, the former leadership endorsed against the eventual winning candidates. Had those candidates not won their general elections, then we would have Speaker Hakeem Jeffries. Okay, no ifs, ands, or buts. There’s no contention about this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, this is what I don’t understand, Eli. The Dave Williams Brigade, if they had gotten their way, right now Trump would have a Democrat House of Representatives. He would, okay? Their candidate in the third, Ron Hanks, would have gotten killed in the general election. Their candidate in the eighth would have gotten demolished in the general election. And by the way, their candidate in the fifth, who was Dave Williams, I believe he could have lost that too.
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I think there’s a very good chance we would have lost the fifth, and there’s no question we would have lost the third and the eighth. That’s why the Democrats were out there… Talk about reaching across the aisle. You had the Democrats, the Democrat Party and the Republican Party working shoulder to shoulder to to put forward candidates, Republican candidates that could not win.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that’s I don’t know what else to say. I mean, that’s just horrible. I want people to understand, folks, these are not enemies. These are not the people who are critical of the old. It’s because we have to make sure we don’t do that again. Before we go to break, Eli, I want to talk about the next election. OK, let’s say right now we’ve got Britta Horn and her team. We’ll talk about what they can do going forward. But they’ve they’ve just taken over. OK, for these two years. But you know that the the I call them Davidians. OK, the supporters of Dave. All right. You know that the Davidians are already gearing up to try to win back power in 2027 because power is all that matters to them. They don’t care about results. I just read you the results. They want power. And the way to get that back is to seat precinct leaders. In county after county after county throughout the state, especially in key counties. They did that in a number of counties and actually took them over. All right. What is to stop them from doing that over the next two years? What can Britta Horn do to keep… Look what they tried to do in Weld County. They tried to seat a bunch of them in time for Weld County’s big meeting. so that they could have sent a bunch of Davidians from Weld County to the state meeting and elected their candidate. They failed. And by the way, what happened in Weld County is probably ultimately the reason we have Britta Horn as our state chair now. So here’s my question, Eli. How do we stop them from seating their people, because they are very subversive, seating their people in precinct leader positions and voting positions throughout the state?
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Well, getting Britta elected was an excellent first step because you’ve got to stop the bleeding here. I also do want to point out it’s not just about power. It’s about money. Dave Williams paid himself an enormous salary to go attack our Republican candidates. He paid fraudulent lawyer Matt Arnold, who is now filing fraudulent actions against me and other people. They paid him to go on the attack. He’s just a longtime Dave Williams crony. They paid Randy Corcoran. you know, another struggling lawyer who’s part of their inside group. They paid the chair of Mineral County something like $30,000. So there’s not just power involved. A lot of these folks can’t really find work elsewhere. And I’m going to tell you something. In the same way I’ve been very outspoken about women’s sports, women’s sports is not a place for failed male athletes. The Republican Party is not a place for failed people who can’t make money elsewhere to come and take money that can otherwise be spent advancing our conservative agenda.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, really quick here, jump into the lawsuit, okay? Because obviously they had a lawsuit in place from the old guard basically against the new guard, against Britta, against you, against Todd Watkins and some more. And obviously Britta was going to drop that. There was no reason for it. I mean, literally, the whole lawsuit was because you guys supposedly ran an illegal coup, but That doesn’t hold any water because the meeting, the coup meeting, was ruled legal by the courts. So they are literally… That’s right. They’re suing against you. You could say, well, yeah, but you lost it. Yeah, they changed the number of votes that you needed to win. A Democrat judge did that to save Dave, basically. Okay, fine. Whatever. And Dave got to keep his position. Fine. That’s the past. Done. Okay. But… They wanted to sue you guys to get back, I guess, legal fees or whatever. And please explain that, because what were they trying to get back and what are they alleging?
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So they say they’re trying to get legal fees back. Realistically, multiple lawyers have come out and looked at this and said their lawsuit, their counter lawsuit is so bizarre that that it is extremely likely that we’re going to wind up getting attorney’s fees awarded. Now, what’s very interesting is Brita, I have no interest in hurting the Republican Party financially right now because Brita Horne is going to do a great job of spending the resources getting Republicans elected. So obviously right now we’d very much like this to end. enter in the David right before he got thrown out of office or not thrown out. I mean, he didn’t run for reelection and his his chosen successor right before he left office didn’t read before he left. He signed a deal with a lawyer who is now harassing Britta. And, you know, I think there’s a very good chance that we’re going to wind up getting sanctions against these folks. And what they’re doing is they’re trying to deplete the Republican Party of Resources because, again, they want to get back in power. They really couldn’t care less about winning the governor’s race. It’s not on their radar. They couldn’t care less about winning the Senate. It doesn’t bother them if Hakeem Jeffries gets in, any of that. They need to get back in because they can’t make money anywhere else. Okay, let’s talk more about… I mean, this is sort of like the deep state that Donald Trump ran against. We got it right here in Colorado.
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Yeah, and I’d like you to talk a little about Matt Arnold’s committee when we come back. Let’s take a break really quick here, and we will look at that. Up next is Affordable Interest Mortgage with Kurt Rogers. No one finds the best rates and packages like Kurt Rogers. If you need a loan, call Kurt at 720-895-0500.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. And on the line, we’ve got Eli Bremmer. Eli, in the next segment, the final segment, I want to talk about the positive, what going forward could be done with our new leadership, because I think there are some really good things. But… I want us to spend just a few minutes here on the lawsuit. And because the lawsuit you would think would have been dropped right away, right? Because new leadership comes in. They can’t sue themselves. This is crazy. However, for those who don’t understand the dynamics of this, what is happening with Matt Arnold and the what is that committee called again? The Anti-Corruption Committee?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, the irony of one of the most corrupt people I’ve ever run into.
SPEAKER 05 :
Really quick here. The reason I’m asking really quick before you jump in. The reason I’m asking is because you said deep state. I think that, you know, when Democrats, they have power, right? They leave a deep state in place to corrupt and wreck things for any Republicans who win after them. And I think that’s exactly the strategy that the Williams Brigade did.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think that’s without a doubt. And just going back, I mean, my first run-in with this character was exposing him for lying on his resume. He was running for the Board of Regents and had lied on his academic resume. Matt Arnold? Yeah, I didn’t really see why that’s a problem. Yeah, he kind of made national news for that, because if you want to confer degrees on people, it’s usually best if you haven’t lied about the ones that you have. So, you know, again, it’s just sort of a a longstanding, you know, a guy that just can’t ever find a productive thing to do in his life. And then Dave Williams hired him to represent a committee that doesn’t exist. I mean, our lawyers are sort of scratching their head at every filing and saying, it’s not that these are novel filings. It’s just that It’s sort of like ChatGPT got a law degree or something. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, why can’t the new chair simply say, look, this committee is discontinued? Because, look, it’s a witch hunt committee. The Anti-Corruption Committee? I mean, that’s a witch hunt committee.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it was discontinued. And then Matt Arnold, who is not a member of the Central Committee, is alleging that he represents a committee that doesn’t exist. and that he is party to a lawsuit that the organization itself is trying to dismiss against itself.
SPEAKER 05 :
Was he even part of the original lawsuit? Was he even part of the original lawsuit?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and I don’t know what motivated this. I mean, it may be that I was called to testify against him. He’s involved with a massive domestic dispute. And I was called to testify against them, and then this happened shortly thereafter. So I don’t know if it’s a personal deal. I didn’t have a choice on that. I was called to talk about some of the history he’s had, the violent history he’s had, and things like that. So, I mean, this is the quality of people that we’re dealing with here. So now he represents a committee that doesn’t exist. trying to get the republican party to uh have legal bills against itself so you know it’s as asinine as it sounds um i you know i’m not a lawyer i’m guessing that this is going to be you know any judge that gets this is going to look at it and say this is ridiculous um i think the real question after this is going to be you know the sanctions there’s several attorneys involved dave piggott uh lied to the courts last summer. I think there’s going to need to be some accountability for that. He filed false things with the court and then Matt Arnold as well. So I don’t know yet for sure what actions we’re going to take on them, but I think there does need to be some accountability. I’m a conservative. I believe that people need to be accountable for their actions. If you do things like lie to the court or present yourself representing a client that doesn’t exist, these things have consequences when you have the rule of law. So You know, I just can’t say enough about how irresponsible the previous administration was. And then these lawyers that were lying to the courts, Dave Pagan and Matt Arnold, they’re just not good characters.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there are a lot of people out there online who honestly believe. That the reason Dave and his team were suing is because they were counter suing. And this is all because the coup people who, by the way, you were one of not the leader, but one of the leaders of that, that the coup Peter people were suing them, that you guys initiated these lawsuits. I don’t think that was the case.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that’s not the case. This is totally instigated by them, and then they lost power, and it’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen. I sort of laugh every time I see a filing in this case because it’s pseudoscience meets pseudolaw. But again, when you have irresponsible people, they get in these positions, they’re going to cause damage. And so you talked about earlier precinct caucuses. Folks, if you’re upset about this, if you want a functional Republican Party, please show up at your precinct caucus, get elected a precinct leader, and demand that your Republican Party leadership have some common sense, some accountability. And some ethics. Exactly. I think Britta’s going to have a great two years. I fully support her. But if we don’t watch out, we’re going to wind up back in the same boat.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, let’s talk about the great two years after this break because I think it’s time to talk some good news. Folks, the only reason we talk about the old stuff is like Eli said. If we don’t, we’re going to repeat it. Okay, we have to understand how we got into that, how these people rose to power, and how we can make sure nothing like that ever happens again. Let’s go to break first, though. Geno’s Auto. If you’re on the west side of town and you need great, honest car repair, call Geno’s. That’s Geno’s with a J at 303-794-6700.
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SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. Online, we got Eli Bremmer. Eli, I think I now know Rhino Watch’s next headline will be Eli Bremmer’s Suspicious Ties to the Wuhan Lab.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, I think that’s a foregone conclusion.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, they’re a hard-hitting news station.
SPEAKER 03 :
In all fairness, at least that would actually be closer to the truth because you could connect a few dots to get there than what they typically come up with.
SPEAKER 05 :
I just picture you with an evil look in a lab coat.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yeah, I think the Babylon Bee and the Onion have more factual basis behind them than that website.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, well, tell you what, the good news is we have new leadership now, and I think they’re terrific. What do you foresee coming? What are some of the changes you see coming?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let’s talk about probably one of the brightest shining lights I’ve seen with new leadership. There’s Vice Chairman David Hogg, who has announced that he is going to make sure we primary all of the members of the party that are not towing the party line enough. and make sure that we turn on each other. And I think, Andy, that this is fantastic. I fully, fully support what David Hogg is doing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, that’s wonderful. The new vice chair. Now, but you know what? I don’t think David Hogg is the vice chair of the Colorado Republican Party. Am I missing something?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, he’s not. He’s the vice chair of the Democratic Party, of the National Democratic Party. And I fully support him. Go ahead. Yeah. No, I fully support him going and purging and doing everything that folks have suggested we as Republicans do in Colorado, because I think the National Democrats are about to tear themselves to shreds. trying to purify.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, David Hogg is basically trying to do on a national level with the Democrat Party exactly what the Williams team did. Dave Williams and his team were put in place specifically by their supporters to purge
SPEAKER 03 :
And I completely support his doing that in the Democratic Party. Yeah. Because I want a purity test. I want to see the Democrats do this because it’s going to be a boon for Republicans. On the Republican side in the state, Britta Horne is a very competent person. She’s going to do all the stuff that we’re going to need. I think that we have the opportunity now to look ahead. The Democrat overreach in this state is insane. I mean, they called a special meeting of the legislature on a Sunday to say that parents who don’t affirm their child’s mental illness and who say their kids are, you know, when a six-year-old or an eight-year-old says that they’re a different gender than they actually are, that that’s cause for the parents to get sanctioned in the case of a divorce and maybe even beyond. Andy, this is ridiculous. The backlash that we should be having against the Democrats is palpable. I think Brita is going to do a great job of helping the Republican Party stay out of the way of the campaigns and rather actually get in and help them. And and so I’m very optimistic about that. I think we’ve got some good leadership in the statehouse.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, really quick here on what just like on the issue you just said. I mean, how hard is it for now the Republican Party to say we let parents parent? Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
And Andy, this is like an 80 percent issue. Yeah. OK. Eighty percent of Americans support keeping men out of women’s sports. And I think it’s pretty similar who say that this should be a parents rights issue and the parents are better determined to deal with this. The Democratic Party in the state of Colorado has gone off the rails. And what that means is it is going to be open season for Republicans to come in and say, if we present compelling and good candidates who are willing to run great campaigns, and I’m calling on everybody out there, get ready to open up your walls. When you see some of these great candidates, we need to financially support them. We need to go knock on doors for them because the Democrats are acting so despicable in this state. And they are opening the door when they’re starting to take a position that 80% of Coloradans oppose. This could be an incredible cycle for us. So I think we have good leadership at the state level. I think Rose Pugliese and Paul Lundin in the State House and State Senate, respectively, are going to be starting to work on recruiting candidates for these marginal seats. I think if we do a good job, we can pick up some more seats and start chipping away at the Democrat majority here. We did a great job in the State House getting away from the Dems having a supermajority. But we’re going to have to pick up some more House and Senate seats. I think if we have a compelling candidate in the statewide seats, then given this climate, there’s a chance we’re going to be able to take off. Maybe one or two or even three of those statewide seats that are up the cycles.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but, you know, we have a problem here because those who and I mean wrongfully call themselves the grassroots. OK, because I think I think that term is totally being misused here in Colorado. But those who wrongfully call themselves the grassroots will attack people like Jeff Hurd. who have won for us. And they say he’s no better than a Democrat because, oh gosh, now and then he might actually disagree with Trump. Folks, he’s in a purple district, a district that had Lauren Boebert stayed there, she guarantee would have lost. And he won that district by like three point whatever points. I mean, he’s a Republican in the House right now helping Donald Trump. And they want to shoot that kind of candidate down. Isn’t it the Jeff Hurd type of candidate, though, that you’re going to need in these purple districts?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I need candidates who can win. And when people apply these purity tests, I like to point out, I don’t agree with every position I held 10 years ago. And 10 years from now, I won’t agree with every position I hold today because we grow up mature. Donald Trump today does not agree with Donald Trump 10 years ago or 20 years ago. So I think having a litmus test and saying, unless you have 100% fidelity to Donald Trump today, because then you’re not fidelity to Donald Trump 10 years ago, It’s sort of a silly standard. What’s really important is actually that these folks are coming home to roost when the time counts. And I’m really proud of our House Republicans, with the exception of one from Kentucky who keeps on voting no on everything. There are House Republicans, I think, yeah, I don’t like to give them airtime, but he’s also not running in this state. Republicans have done a really good job of understanding that an 80% or a 90% solution, they can disagree a little bit with Donald Trump, but an 80% or 90% solution is better than a 0%. And let’s remember, it was a lot of the members of the Freedom Caucus that obstructed Trump in his first term, which is why we still have Obamacare. So I think the House Republicans have gotten their act together. I’m really proud of them. And I have very little toleration for people saying, well, there’s this one thing over here where you have a different policy than the president does, or I think you do. Well, guess what? We’re a team. We got to vote together and we got to keep these seats. I mean, we’ve got four out of eight seats in Congress in Colorado. Colorado is not the reason that Donald Trump is the president, but it is the reason that Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the House. Yes, absolutely. And if Mike Johnson, if he were not the Speaker of the House, Donald Trump would be getting one-tenth the amount Donnie’s getting done right now because Congress would be working against him instead of with him. So that’s why we’re important today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, and here, let me give you a minute to close here because I’m glad you brought up Thomas Massey. I believe Thomas Massey, and I understand he’s a libertarian Republican and he’s a purist. He has become functionally a Democrat. Because all he does is he will vote against anything. All the purest things that he wants could never get voted in. They can’t. He doesn’t understand. He has a lot of Republicans on his side who are in deep purple districts. If they voted the way Massey wants them to, they’d all lose. OK, and we’d be out of power. So talk in the last minute here. Talk to those people, Eli, who want to have a bunch of Thomas Massey’s here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, if you do, then what you’re going to have is a Democrat hegemony that is going to do everything they ever dreamed of. And we don’t have to question it anymore. They’re going to say that if you don’t trans your kids, they’re going to take your kids away from you. They’re going to get rid of Tabor and jack your tax rates up. If you’re in the rural regions, they’re bringing wolves to you. They’ve already done that. They’re going to put more regulation down. And I’m running multiple businesses here. I’m trying to hire a couple hundred employees down in Fremont County. And let me tell you how hard it is with the regulations to get a business done. If you think you’ve seen it bad right now, take a look at San Francisco, and Colorado’s going to go to the left of that if the Republican Party here doesn’t get its act together and start putting candidates forward that represent the voters. It’s not about purity. We’re going to have to start winning.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, because Thomas Massey in Colorado has another name, and it’s Ron Hanks, and he lost. Yeah, he’s the dream candidate of the Democrat Party. Exactly. Eli Bremmer, thank you so much. It has been a lot of fun. We’ll talk to you again. All right, thank you. You bet. Take care. Folks, that’s it for hour number two. In hour number three, we’re going to have Jersey Joe joining me again. He’s got a lot to talk about. It’s going to be a lot of fun. Until then, keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
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Rich guy.
