In this compelling episode, the Kim Munson Show takes listeners on a journey through the intricacies of Colorado’s political climate. From discussing transformative legislation to highlighting grassroots movements, the conversation reveals the underlying dynamics of freedom and force in shaping policy. Special guest John Zoller shares his immersive approach to exhibits, offering a fresh perspective on how creativity and politics collide. Don’t miss this deep dive into the current state of affairs and the power of public participation.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. Welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. Happy Monday. And we’ve got an amazing week planned for all of you. And make sure that you check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. The recaps and podcasts of the show can be found there. And while you’re there, make sure that you are signed up for our weekly email that goes out on Sundays. 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If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and it’s not compassionate to take other people’s stuff whether or not it’s their rights their property their freedom livelihoods opportunities their childhoods or their lives via force and force can obviously be a weapon but it can be policy and unpredictable in excess of taxation fear coercion government-induced inflation the agenda of the world economic forum and the globalist elites THE UNITED NATIONS, THIS COLORADO STATE LEGISLATURE, WHICH TOMORROW IS THE LAST DAY OF THE 2025 SESSION, THIS COLORADO GOVERNOR. NONE OF THESE THINGS HAPPENING DOWN AT THE STATE HOUSE HAPPENED WITHOUT HIS APPROVAL. Except, I guess the one thing, the social media one, I think that he did veto that. But otherwise, all the other stuff going on down there, he’s well aware of it. And so he’s no libertarian. We are, as we look at these bills down there, it’s really tyrannical. But anyway, the land use code, zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, National Monument designations, transmission lines easements, CO2 pipeline easements, all these things, they’re taking away property. And property, the right to own property, the fruits of your labor, or what you can create with your mind, that is inherent in the American idea. And remember, something’s a good idea. You should not have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues. We’ll mention the people pushing those issues. but we’re staying out of all the personality fighting. And the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. And that’s on all of the KLZ platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And you can say, Alexa, play KLZ, and it’ll come in nice and strong. Our word of the day is immersive. And I chose this because we’ve got a really interesting guest in this first hour, John Zoller. And he’s created an immersive experience regarding an exhibit that’s on the Titanic. And so I thought immersive would be a great word of the day. And it is I-M-M-E-R-S-I-V-E. And it could be providing, involving, or characterized by deep absorption, easy for me to say this today, or immersion in something such as an activity or a real or artificial environment. So it’s going to be a really interesting conversation with him. And I chose Napoleon Bonaparte for our quote because we had Mark Schneider on on Friday, who is a historian and also an actor. He portrays both Lafayette and Napoleon from Colonial Williamsburg. And really interesting. And so I thought, well, we’ll do a Napoleon quote today. And he was born in 1769. He died in 1821. And he was a French general and statesman who rose to prominence during the French Revolution and led a series of military campaigns across Europe during the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars from 1796 to 1815. And he said this, the world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. And that, as we see what’s happening down at this Colorado State House, I was down there last Wednesday for the hearings for House Bill 25-13-12, which is the transgender bill, that it got watered down. However, it should just go away. You can’t amend bad bills to become good bills. Bad bills are bad bills. They, first of all, should never have been introduced. And secondly, they cannot be amended. So they just need to really, really go away. And I just saw a lot of… You could feel that there was real evil down there, but you could also feel that there was this great battle of good and evil, battle of ideas down there. And so… So it’s going to be interesting to continue to watch the rest of what is happening the next couple of days. Do check out the Colorado Union of Taxpayers website. This is coloradotaxpayer.org. And then at the very top. go to Cut Engaged. And this is something that you need to do today because they’re going to be hearing a number of these bills. And one of them, I think, passed late on Friday. But I thought it was probably okay to just go ahead and let the sponsors and your legislator know what you think about that. But we added four new bills to this. And it’s super easy. Ben Williams said he was able to Comment on four bills within one minute and 51 seconds. And so you can certainly go through there. We do. I did choose House Bill 1312 is down there as well. And I would certainly encourage you to make your voices heard on that as well. And so but the four new ones that we added on for today is cut opposes House Bill 251274 healthy school meals for all program. Also 1169, the housing developments on faith and educational land. 1061, the community schoolyards grant program. And then 1001, this was introduced, it’s one of the early bills and it was introduced, it was the first bill that was introduced, but yet it’s, we’re to the last, almost the last day. This is enforcement of wage hour laws. And this will just make it even more expensive and more difficult for businesses to do business in Colorado. And so what will happen is if you go on and decide to make your voice heard, you can just put your information in, and it will send over to the sponsors, and you can choose to add in your state senator and your state representative. And it’ll just send our commentary. If you want to add commentary, you can do that as well. But this was our commentary on this particular bill, House Bill 25-1001. The sponsors on this are Monica Duran, Meg Froelich, Jesse Danielson, and Chris Kolker. And we said this, the Lee School of Business at CU recently reported that Colorado’s economic growth has moved from fifth to 41st in the nation because of excessive regulations on businesses. House Bill 25-1001 piles onto the already 200,000 restrictions on businesses. This bill makes it more difficult for small business to operate in Colorado, and the fines are egregious. Lastly, this bill unjustly removes applicability to government agencies. Go figure on that. And so if you want to make your voices heard, go to coloradotaxpayer.org. And you can do that. It’s super easy. And I’ve seen many, many of you are starting to utilize this tool, which I think is really, really great. And so, again, it goes back to our quote of the day, the world’s not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. The other thing is we’d really encourage you to join the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, also known as CUT. It’s only $25 a year. We will be working on our ratings report, which takes a lot of work. It’s an all-volunteer group, and I want to say thank you to them. These people are truly rock stars, and they have given an enormous amount of time to keep you informed. And this… So being a member of CUT is a great tool in your toolbox. And this group, when you see them out there, say thank you. Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And again, they have done amazing, amazing work. The show comes to you because of our sponsors. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show. We are realizing it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. 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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Excuse me, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And Hooters Restaurants has been a great sponsor of both the Kim Munson Show and America’s Veterans Stories for many, many years. How I got to know them, it’s a very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism, which you can find that at my website, hooters.com. But they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And, of course, great place to get together to watch all the sporting events. Unfortunately, the Avs were not able to be victorious in their series with the Dallas Stars. So, unfortunately, they’re not moving on. But, again, great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and happy hour. And a great place to get together with friends. Let’s see here. Next thing regarding headlines. I think this first one is pretty important. And this is from The New York Times. And the Trump administration is suing Colorado and Denver over immigration policies. And so this is big news. And It’s really remarkable what has happened to this beautiful state. And it’s because of really overreaching government, people that have been elected into office that do not understand the proper role of government, that have this ideology that they’ve been pushing. Mayor Mike Johnston, obviously, of course, Mayor Michael Hancock prior to that, this Colorado governor. And the sanctuary policies, not only for illegal immigration, but for transgender actions regarding children. So we’re really off the rails here, and we wonder how on earth Did this ever happen? And it is because of the people that we have elected into office. Now, I did want to alert all of you also that there are some different elections out there that you may not be aware of. It could be your fire protection boards. I know South Suburban Parks and Recreation have a board election. And it’s really important that we make our voices heard. Now, for my director for the South Metro Fire District, there is only one candidate. And I find that really kind of crazy that I wasn’t actually really aware. that we were going to have an election on that. I’m thinking note to self, I’ve got to work a little bit harder on all of staying informed on that. And so we all need to go to work on that and work together. So be sure you might want to take a look at your property tax bill and the different places that you pay taxes, such as your parks and rec district or anything else there and see if they’re having an election tomorrow. And you want to make sure that you have your make your voices heard. Next headline, in light of all of this that’s going on, we have, this is from CBS News, and it says, Denver’s mayor is proposing hefty raises for his appointees amid bleak economic forecasts. And so this is really unbelievable. It says, just four days after the city of Denver economists and finance personnel warned of recession-like conditions, increasing economic uncertainty, and recommended city leaders keep their budgets flat, CBS News Colorado has learned that Denver Mayor Mike Johnston is seeking double-digit raises for a dozen of his appointees, with some of the raises topping 30% to 40%. We probably should have done this six months ago, conceded John Ewing, a spokesman for Johnston, when questioned about the timing of the department head raises. And this is unbelievable. It says, according to the information obtained by CBS News Colorado and confirmed by Ewing, the mayor plans to ask a city council committee on Tuesday to approve the following raises. Manager of the Department of Aviation, from $346,000 to $406,000, a 17.2% increase. Manager of the Department of Finance, from $185,000 to $266,000, a 43.6% increase. And, of course, remember that on top of this, it’s not just the pay, but they also have all kinds of benefits. The city attorney from $216,000 to $268,000, which is a 24% raise, and the manager of the Department of Transportation and Infrastructure from $195,000 to $240,000. It says also racking up large proposed salary bumps, the managers of Parks and Rec, Department of Safety, General Services and other department heads. It says Ewing said the Merrill appointees had not received raises since 2022 and needed additional compensation or the city would risk losing them. Well, I think, you know what, you might be able to find somebody else that might work for a little bit less. This is really tone deaf to what is going on here in Colorado. And, again, it is because of these policies that our economic forecasts are – are just so concerning for all of us. And then to add on more and more rules and regulations with this like House Bill 1001, which will probably pass and be signed by the governor, it is just tone deaf to what is happening to everyday people out there. And this is from KUSATV, and it says that Colorado, this is on the state level, Colorado lawmakers warn financial woes are just beginning as Governor Jared Polis signs a $44 billion budget. And, of course, follow the money. When people say they’re not interested in politics, well, politics is certainly interested in you. And the only way that they can spend this money is they have to take it from us, we the people. And so last week, the governor signed the $44 billion budget for 2025-2026. And… It says that the JBC faced a $1.2 billion funding shortfall driven by higher than expected Medicaid costs and a structural deficit. Hear that word, structural deficit. To patch that hole, legislators had to eliminate certain programs, including the State Employee Reserve Fund, which served as a loan program for state employees, an incentive program for banks lending to low-income individuals, and the school mental health screening program, which only saw six schools across the state participating. Polis commended the work of the six-member JBC, which includes four Democrats and two Republicans. And what we need to do is really cut more and more spending across the board here. And so, goodness. So a couple of other things I wanted to mention is that the USMC Memorial Foundation will be sponsoring their second annual golf tournament, which will be March 15th, excuse me, May 15th, excuse me, May 15th, which is Thursday. Hold on here. I got to get my schedule back here. It’s going to be May 15th. I’m going to be out there with Teresa Irby, who is our liaison partner. And we’re going to be out there for lunch. And so join us for that. And then let’s see. The other thing is, oh, you can get more information on that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And be sure and check that out there. And then also the Center for American Values located down in Pueblo, Colorado. This is something that you really should do with the kids is to get down there sometime this summer to visit the Center for American Values because I think it really will change your life. And to have our children understand the sacrifices of these men, our Medal of Honor recipients, that they took action when a situation presented itself and save lives, and we can take a lot of inspiration from that as we are engaged in this battle of ideas that is raging in our state and our country at this particular point in time. Also, I wanted to wish Mary Jansen a very happy birthday. She is one of the CUT board directors, and she’s really a great friend, a great sponsor of the show, Jansen Photography. And it is her birthday. I’m pretty sure it’s probably her 29th birthday. And so we want to say happy birthday to Mary Jansen. And my friends, we here in Colorado, we’ve got to do some real work regarding our elections. We have so many different vulnerabilities that we’ve got to look into those and we’ve got to check them out. And that is why we’re We last year created the Colorado 2024 Election Project. And again, because of all of you, we were able to get those lawsuits filed regarding our elections, one through United Sovereign Americans, which basically said from their research that Colorado’s not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress whatsoever. for elections it’s a civil rights issue uh… the other with the wisconsin stand uh… the wisconsin center for election justice and that is uh… that uh… weekend we actually used at the peter bernie hers um titan technology and as of election day a very targeted list 14 500 people that should not have received ballots in colorado actually voted so we’ve got that going on there then we just recently helped holly casen raise the money for their appeal for their attorney’s fees to stop this ngo lawfare and then we’ve got another project that’s going to be starting as well very very soon And so be sure and just stay tuned on this because we have so many vulnerabilities. And how that is playing out then is in these elections with these elected representatives that are spending so much money giving themselves raises or giving their cronies raises. But then also these really onerous pieces of legislation that have been going through as well. And so be sure and stay tuned as we’re going through all of these different things, checking out these vulnerabilities. We’re going to be doing a lot of work on that. And the show comes to you because of all of our great sponsors. And right now we’re in the spring selling season for our residential real estate. And there are for sale signs out there. So if you’re going to buy a home or sell a home or look at a new build, be sure and reach out to Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. Very excited to have on the line with me John Zoller. He is the executive producer of of Exhibition Hub, a curator and distributor of world-renowned immersive exhibitions. He has honed his unique skills of production, visual art, and set design for more than 25 years while working in the museum, entertainment, retail, and attraction theme parts industries through his own immersive design firm, KRE8360. And he’s done amazing different projects, including Titanic, which we’re going to talk about, an immersive museum, Voyage, but Jurassic World, the exhibition, Bodies of the Exhibition, and let’s see, Star Trek, the exhibition. Anyway, some really great projects. And John Zoller, welcome to the show. Thanks, Kim. Glad to be on. And so something big is happening in Denver tomorrow, and that is the opening of this exhibition, yes?
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That’s right. Titanic and Immersive Voyage is opening in Denver this week. It’s the most incredible telling of the Titanic story that I’ve ever been a part of. And over those 25 years you mentioned, which makes me sound a lot like I’ve done a lot more than I think I have, I’ve always worked on Titanic exhibitions. And so a couple of years ago, I put together a big collection of Titanic artifacts and said, how can we take these artifacts and and tell the story using all of that great digital technology that we’ve become so good at doing, and do it in a way that puts you in the story like never before. And I really think we’ve delivered on that in a very powerful and magical way.
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So is this the only place that you’re doing this exhibition, or are there other places throughout the country?
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We actually have Titanic exhibitions in several parts of the world right now. So we’re in Hamburg, Germany, and we’re also in Atlanta, Georgia. We have another version of the show that’s in Cincinnati and New Orleans, so we’re definitely covering some ground.
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How did Denver get so lucky to have this?
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Well, Denver’s a great market, and it’s a place that really celebrates culture and history and the arts. And so we had great success with our Bubble Planet exhibition, which is a very different experience from Titanic, where it’s more play-based and inspirational. And we said, you know, let’s come to Denver. And the interest so far has been really strong. The Titanic story is evergreen. It’s one that we all see ourselves reflected in in some way. And in this experience, you’re going to board the ship. You’re going to become a passenger. You’re going to experience those final moments of Titanic above water, and then you’re going to get to dive to the wreck site through the magic of virtual reality and see the wreck like never before.
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Wow, and I was looking at the information that your publicist sent over, and I guess I had not really realized this, that they found the Titanic in 1985, and it was really by accident, yes?
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So it’s a great story. Dr. Robert Ballard… had for a long time wanted to find the wreck of the Titanic. He had an idea of where it was, but because of the depth, two and a half miles beneath the surface of the ocean, the equipment didn’t exist really to scan to those depths or to send any cameras down. So he went to the Navy and he said, I’ve got this idea to find Titanic, but I need to develop this equipment. And they said, okay, we can do that for you, but you have to do something for us first. And that’s go and locate two missing nuclear submarines before the Russians find them. This is during the Cold War. And so they built the equipment for Ballard. He went out on this mission that was supposedly to find the Titanic, but it actually had a covert part to it, which was discovering these submarines. He was able to find those subs and with a couple of days left, redirect the ships. And lo and behold, on the last day of the mission,
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they discovered the wreck of the titanic and it’s very deep as you said two and a half miles it was uh over 12 000 feet right i i so uh i find that really fascinating so uh what are some of the images that he that he found that he saw there and you you can’t dive that deep right it had to all be by cameras or what you so you can dive that deep in a submersible um
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It’s typically a one-foot-thick titanium sphere that you go down in. But that wasn’t the case for these first dives. These first dives were using surface sonar and scanning and then deep-water operational underwater autonomous vehicles that had cameras on them. So from that first discovery… there’s an iconic shot of Titanic’s bow that we’ve seen around the world, we’ve featured in our exhibit. It’s the one that Ballard brought back that everybody said, wow, Titanic is still there. It still exists. It looks almost as beautiful as it did the day she set sail. And it just conjures up all this sense of exploration and adventure in the imagination of something so historic, something with such a great story around it, sitting there in that final resting place in the bottom of the ocean. And as I mentioned, in the virtual reality experience we have in Titanic and Immersive Voyage, you’re actually, you can’t dive that deep, but using virtual reality, you’re standing on an open ocean platform at the depth, revolving around the bow section of the ship, and it’s truly a magical part of the exhibition.
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Wow. This is absolutely fascinating. Now, where is the exhibit at here in Denver?
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So it’s right, it’s at 3900 Elati Street, which is where the Van Gogh exhibit was, where Bubble Planet was, and now Titanic and Immersive Voyage. It’s very central in town. And if you go to expo-titanic.com, you can get all that information on how to get there and how to get tickets.
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Okay, and that’s expo-titanic.com.
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That’s right.
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How long will the exhibit be here, John?
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We’ll be here through the summer, and hopefully with the support of the community, we’ll be able to stay longer. We know we’ve got a really amazing experience, and we’ve had such great turnout in Denver, so hopefully we can stay through the holidays.
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Well, it seems like that’s a really interesting thing for people to do, always looking for things to do during the summer. And so that sounds like it would be a really great thing to do.
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From the top of the mountain to the bottom of the ocean.
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There you go. And so just tell me your creative journey. How did you end up doing this kind of work?
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Well, you know, I did. I studied literature. I studied the classics. I studied set design. I always enjoyed putting on shows. But it was really my brothers that got me involved in this business. My brother Paul started his own production company when he was 16 years old in Cleveland, Ohio. And I worked with Paul on summers as a stagehand. kind of caught the bug when you do all this work and then suddenly the lights turn on and there’s a crowd there or you walk through the experience at the end and you say, wow, this is an amazing way to tell a story. And as a storyteller, I just became so fascinated with it that I continued to pursue different types of theatrical work, different types of event work, and eventually got to the point where I was able to start working on the first exhibit I did, which was a Titanic exhibit that I did with my brother, Tom. And from there, we just continued to make exhibits since that time for over 25 years.
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And why do you have the fascination with the Titanic?
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Well, Titanic is the Greek tragedy of our modern era. So, you know, in a great tragedy, there’s always a lesson to be learned no matter what age you are. There’s always something in you that connects to part of the story. And I think that’s why I’m so fascinated with it. I think that’s why people are so fascinated with it is there’s over 2200 people on board the ship. They all have these stories. You have all of this series of events that led you to get to that point in the ocean where the ship on its maiden voyage, the largest ship ever built that was supposedly unthinkable, meets an iceberg in the middle of the night. It’s a story that can’t be made up. It’s so unreal, but it’s also real. Wrapping your mind around all the different complexities of the story is something that continues to fascinate me and also the public. The thing is that the more I work on a Titanic exhibit, the more I become connected to another part of it. So I’m always learning different things about the ship every time I work on one of these experiences and always trying to bring that new storytelling to the new experiences I create. And with Titanic and Immersive Voyage, we have really done that in a way where using media, we place you on the bridge as the ice worms are coming in. We place you in the crow’s nest trying to spot the iceberg. We place you in the boiler room as the iceberg breaches the side of the ship and the water starts pouring in. You’re walking the corridors of the ship as it’s starting to go down. We built the set so they’re angled so you’re actually going like the ship is sinking. And then we put you in a lifeboat as you, in our immersive experience, as you sit in the water and you watch Titanic going down by the head, sending out her last wireless messages, you become a passenger on board the ship through this experience. And it’s a story that continues to fascinate us. And with this new technology, we’ve been able to take it to a whole other level.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s fascinating. How many people ended up perishing on the Titanic?
SPEAKER 05 :
Over 1,500 people lost their lives that night in the frigid waters of the North Atlantic. It’s an incredibly tragic story. And about 715 were rescued by the rescue ship Carpathia. They had made it into lifeboats and were waiting out the frigid, cold, pitch-black night, wondering what their fate would be. And they… In the early morning hours, they saw the Carpathia coming across the horizon, and they said it was the most beautiful sunrise they had ever seen because they knew that there was going to be another one after that when they saw the ship, the Carpathia.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow, and I didn’t realize there were these other companion ships or sister ships, the Olympic, the Britannic, and the Carpathia, and Californian. I didn’t know about those.
SPEAKER 05 :
So that’s part of the magic of Titanic and Immersive Voyage is we really broaden the lens on the storytelling so that we’re not just talking about Titanic, but we’re talking about her two sister ships, Olympic and Britannic, that were – the exact same size, basically the exact same ship built in triplicate. Titanic, we know what happened to Titanic. Britannic, unfortunately, also sunk very, very early in its life. It was commissioned to be a hospital ship during World War I and struck a mine in the Aegean Sea and went down in the Aegean Sea. Olympic, good old Olympic, traveled the ocean for 34 years, going back and forth, traveling hundreds of thousands of miles, carrying millions of passengers, including troops during World War I. So there’s a lot to the story there, but also Carpathia was kind of a humble steamer that was more of a cruising ship. It was on its way to the Mediterranean, and it was operated by White Star Line, who owned Titanic, was operated by Cunard Lines, which was White Star Line’s main competitor. But at that moment, there was nothing to do with competition. It was about the power of humanity. And Captain Arthur Rostron, when he heard that call in the middle of the night, redirected his ship and sailed it as fast as he could, weaving through an ice field to get to the Titanic’s location and in order to rescue those passengers who had made it into the lifeboats.
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Wow. Okay. John Zoller. We’re talking with John Zoller. He is the executive producer of Exhibition Hub and curator and distributor of world-renowned immersive exhibitions. We’re talking about this exhibit that’s going to open tomorrow here in Denver at the Lighthouse Art Space, which is at 3900 Elati Street here in Denver. And you can get tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. We’re going to continue the discussion. Absolutely fascinating. All these discussions happen because of our sponsors. And for everything regarding mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation’s website and sign up for their great golf tournament, which will be on May 15th. And that website is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And then also the website for the Center for American Values located down in Pueblo is AmericanValuesCenter.org as well. They’ll be having a great on values presentation at the end of May. I’m talking with John Zoller. He’s the executive producer of Exhibition Hub, which is a curator and distributor of world-renowned immersive exhibitions. We’re talking about this exhibition that’s going to open tomorrow here in Denver. And you can get more information and tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. And this is regarding the Titanic. And, John, this is really fascinating, and how creative you are is just, I just love it. But I wanted to know, what was some of the most striking images that were captured by Ballard when he discovered the Titanic back in 1985?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, really, there’s a photo of the bow of Titanic, and it’s covered in what are called rusticles. which is iron ore-eating bacteria that are slowly consuming the ship. But it comes down in this cascading way, almost like stalactites in a cave. And it’s in this incredible spotlit blue light with all the black of the ocean around it. And what was so striking about that picture is that Titanic had started to fade a little bit from the common consciousness. And You know, people sort of started to forget about the story or think about the story as almost more in the sense of lore. And when that image came back of the bow of the ship on the ocean floor with all the sand around her, it almost looked like she was still sailing, like she was still moving forward. And it brought us back to say, wow, this story really happened. The ship is still there. A silent witness to that incredible night, April 14th, 1912. And now with all of the Titanic survivors having passed away, she’s the final witness still there in the ocean floor.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and there’s this amazing Denver connection with Molly Brown. So talk a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
So Molly Brown, in many ways, is the Titanic story. She was a go-getter. She was born in Missouri, moved to Leadville, Colorado, was working there, and met a fellow named J.J. Brown, who was an up-and-coming miner, very ambitious. He had an idea that the silver mines in Leadville had gold in them and came up with a way to extract that gold from those mines and came into incredible wealth. So now Molly Brown, has this great wealth. She’s got this incredible personality. She was always somebody who championed the rights of those less privileged. She was always working to help those who had less. She was a huge advocate for women’s rights as well. And she was furthering her causes, but she was also enjoying the luxuries that came with this great windfall from JJ’s success. She was traveling through Europe and boarded Titanic at Cherbourg. A lot of wealthy passengers boarded Titanic at Cherbourg, changed their actual itineraries to be on this very celebrated ship, the largest ship ever built on her maiden voyage. And Molly was enjoying life at sea until that night, April 14, 1912, when she was able to get into a lifeboat and keep up the spirits of all those on board that lifeboat throughout the night. She was directing people to row to stay warm. She even wanted to go back and rescue some of those folks in the water, but she was overruled because, and this is the case with every lifeboat, the lifeboats didn’t go back into the area where those who were still alive were in the water because everybody was terrified that people were going to swamp the boats that they were going to go over to. So that was really tragic for her. She connected with those folks and was rescued, was on the Carpathia. And by the time Carpathia got back to New York, she had started a fund for the victims, for the families of the victims who lost their lives, who were less fortunate. And by the time that they got back to New York, she’d already raised $10,000, which is a huge sum at that time. And that fund continued to grow and continued to support the families of the victims. She also was instrumental in celebrating and championing Captain Arthur Rostrand, who we wouldn’t necessarily know as much about if it hadn’t been for her. She wanted to make it clear that his heroism was the reason she still was alive. And she then used that platform of being now the unsinkable Molly Brown to further all of her causes, including women’s rights, and raising the awareness to support and provide for those less privileged. She had an incredible life story, and she lived in Denver. She actually made a huge contribution to the building of the Sacred Heart Basilica in Denver. And her house is still in Denver, and it’s an incredible museum. It’s a wonderful place to visit. We actually are featuring some artifacts from the Molly Brown House Collection in Titanic and Immersive Voyage. And we’ll have a partnership with the Molly Brown House where you can get a discount to our experience if you visit the Molly Brown House. And we’re really thrilled to have that connection to be able to celebrate it in such a big way in Denver.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I remember the film The Unsinkable Molly Brown. It was made in 1964 with Debbie Reynolds. It’s a great classic and recommend that people check that out as well because it’s quite a story. Regarding the captain, tell me a little bit more about him.
SPEAKER 05 :
About Captain Arthur Rostron?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So Captain Arthur Rostron was… He’s a very special guy. You mentioned earlier the Californian. So the Californian was a ship that was only 20 miles away from the Titanic. Unfortunately, the radio operator had turned off the wireless radio at 11 o’clock, and Titanic struck its iceberg at 1140. The Californian was sitting there. Titanic was launching its rockets as distress signals. And they watched these rockets going off, and they said, oh, there’s a Titanic. They must be having a party on board. Meanwhile, over 40 miles away, the wireless operator on Carpathia, who was just about to turn in, receives this distress message and immediately notifies the captain. And without even thinking twice about it, he turned off all the hot water on the ship. He turned off all the heat on the ship, redirected all the steam to the boilers, and started heading for Titanic. And as we mentioned, he was weaving through an ice field to get there, the same ice field that had the iceberg that sank Titanic, and made it there within two hours after the ship sank, just as the sun was coming up. And later when he was asked, how did you get through that night? How did you make it through that ice field? He’s a very religious man, and he said, Someone other than me had their hand on the wheel that night. And he was someone who very rarely spoke about the Titanic tragedy. He just he did his duty and he. he was able to save those 750 passengers who were in those lifeboats.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, John Zoller, I am just thrilled that we got connected for you to share this. We’ve got about a minute left. I’m talking with John Zoller. He’s the executive producer of this Titanic Expo. And you can get tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. And this is down at the Lighthouse Artspace in Denver, 3900. Eladi Street, your final thought. And I’m so, it’s so great that you’re sharing your creativity with Denver.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you so much. And, you know, I think that the Titanic story is one that appeals to all ages. There’s a saying by an Irish writer, we are all passengers on the Titanic. And that is really true. There’s something in each of us that’s reflected in that ship. And I’m thrilled to share this with Denver and for everybody in Colorado to come and experience the Titanic story in a whole new way. We all know a little bit about it. This is an opportunity to take that knowledge and that experience to the next level.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, John Zoller, thank you so much. And again, you can get tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. And hopefully we’ll talk again soon.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks, Kim. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 12 :
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indeed let’s have a conversation welcome to our number two of the kim munson show and thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you’re valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history thank you to the team producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy monday producer joe happy monday kim And boy, that was a fascinating interview regarding the Titanic exhibition that begins tomorrow here in Denver. And people can get tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. I think that sounds super interesting.
SPEAKER 13 :
I agree. I want to go and see it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. So definitely. That looks like that’s something great to do this summer. And so check that out. Again, that website is expo-titanic.com. And… Let’s see here. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you’re there. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Text line is 720-605-0647. Love to hear from you. And thank you to all of you who support us. We look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the Colorado Union of Taxpayer website and join us. First of all, it’s only $25 or $2.08 a month. It’s a great tool to have in your toolbox. We need to understand, first of all, what’s going on. And so know what’s going on and we can help you. significantly with that also we invested in cut engaged where you can make your voices heard and we’ve added some additional bills there we do have that house bill 1312 which is the transgender bill which it’s been watered down a bit it should just go away and you can make your voices heard about that by going to coloradotaxpayer.org I just click on cut engaged and then it is super easy to be able to weigh in on these different pieces of legislation. Our word of the day is immersive. And I chose that because of this immersive exhibition of the Titanic here in Colorado at 3900 Lottie Street. Immersive could be providing, involving, or characterized by deep absorption or immersion in something such as an activity or a real or artificial environment. And so your challenge is to use immersive, I-M-M-E-R-S-I-V-E, in a sentence today. And our quote of the day is by Napoleon. And I chose that because on Friday, we had Mark Schneider on, who’s a historian who portrays both Napoleon and Lafayette at Colonial Williamsburg. And Napoleon said this, he said, the world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, by the weakness of the good. And so that’s why we need to be stalwart and we need to be stepping forward and engaging in this battle of ideas that is raging. uh in our world today and that’s why we do the show is because there are so many different issues that we need to understand and we want to get through the chaos and the confusion and get to truth and clarity and this happens because i get to work with great people And I’m talking with Roger Mangan of the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And, Roger, we recently talked about kind of the macro questions regarding claims. But what about when it’s you, when it really matters and it’s just your claim? What should people know?
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Well, let’s assume it’s Hale because that’s the primary enemy of insurance companies and the consumer in Colorado. You know, there was a time when Colorado was number one in terms of hailstorms. Now other states have taken over, and we discussed that in the last show we had. But let’s take Colorado, for example, in 2022, losing $129 million between homeowners and auto, most of it being homeowners. So if you are—and I want the consumer to recognize this because I’ve talked to a few people that don’t even think about this— If you’re in Colorado and you buy a homeowner’s policy from whatever company, you are in a large pool of other insureds. There could be 100,000 people or 300,000 people in your pool. So when the insurance company collects premium, in the case of State Farm in 2022, we had $129 million in losses there. And maybe we collected $110 million in premium. Well, obviously that $19,000… Or $19 million. $19 million, thank you. We can’t sustain. So what you’re going to do is get a rate increase the next year. And between hail and wildfires in Colorado, insurance rates have gone through the roof, as you all have experienced. The only way to mitigate that… is to probably go to higher deductibles. You cannot reduce the coverage on your house. As a matter of fact, you should be increasing that coverage because of construction costs and inflation and everything else that has riddled the U.S. economy over the last probably five years. I’m going to give you an example. I have a homeowner who has a $673,000 house insured. The premium was $3,270 a year. The new premium, and this is a wildfire area, went from $3,270 to $5,334, a $2,064 increase. Wow. Wow. I mean, it’s like getting hit in the intersection blindsided when you get your next premium bill. So my goal as an agent is to sit down with them and say, okay, you have a 1% deductible. What would happen if you went to a 2% deductible? Your increase, instead of being up to $53.34 a year or $5,334, would be $47.81. That’s a little bit of a savings. And you can go to a higher deductible even higher than the 2%. Let’s say a 5%. So if you did that, your premium that was $32.70 in our first conversation at 1% deductible, you’re at a 5% deductible, your premium would be $35.77. And your previous premium was $32.70. So the only thing I know that you can do, well, you can move out of Colorado. And a lot of people are, by the way. It’s so expensive to live here. But I would talk to your agent, call them and say, hey, will you walk through this with me? Make sure I’m not overinsured. Make sure I don’t have any gaps. And let’s talk about my deductible. How can I save premium? And by the way, you could do a higher deductible for a couple of years until inflation goes down and then get back to your lower deductibles. And I think insurance premiums will stabilize here in the next couple of years.
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Well, this is such important information, and it makes me think, Roger, to call your agent is so important.
SPEAKER 12 :
I really appreciate having real people, people I can trust to call on all these different issues. But what about if somebody is just buying their insurance over the Internet and they don’t really have an agent, do they?
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No, you know, there are direct writers and indirect writers. So we’re direct writers. State Farm, a lot of the companies out there do have agents, and you should deal with agents. And you should hold your agent to task. I mean, I think a lot of people think everything’s on autopilot and everything’s going to be just dandy, going to be okay. Your agent has a lot of people he serves, she serves. So the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You need to call your agent and say, I want a review. And they will give you a review. And you hold them. You say, where are my gaps? How can I save money? Now, I want to talk about something else. We talked about macro, micro. I want to give you an example of a claim that people really probably never think of. So it’s a hailstorm. It hits your house, but they’re little pea-sized hail. But you have maybe 12 inches of that hail in your backyard. It really piles up. So now the hail melts. It turns into water. The water goes into your window well. The water then goes into the basement. Is that a covered loss? No, it’s not. Even though it was hail, the cause of the loss was water. So you need to look at your window wells, make sure that… You’re doing your due diligence and trying to mitigate any potential in the example I just gave you. And I’ve had that claim, and it’s a sad commentary when you tell people, I’m sorry, there’s no coverage. It has to be water inside the house. They call it friendly water. It’s from your toilet. It’s from your dishwasher. You can spring a leak, your bathtub, whatever, shower. that’s going to be a covered loss. But water coming from the outside is not covered. Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wouldn’t have even thought of that, Roger Mangan. Anything else to button this up?
SPEAKER 02 :
I’d like to hit about auto for a minute. Can we shift to auto? Sure. Okay. A lot of people do ask the question, am I targeted by an insurance company if I have a Speeding ticket, for example. And the answer is really no. What insurance companies will do is they’ll do a hit on your motor vehicle every three years, usually. And if they see a cluster of tickets, they’re going to contact your agent. Your agent’s going to contact you. So you’re not being… looked at or scoped out by your insurance company for a speeding ticket and it’s not going to affect your rate in most cases only if you lose your life license or you have an accident as a result of a speed or some kind of violation i just want people to know that because i think people are nervous about that very concept okay that’s good to know and for more information reach out to the roger mangan state farm insurance team like a good neighbor the roger mangan team is there
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And very pleased to have on the show as our featured guest in the second hour, Amy Everett with Colorado Praise. That’s P-R-A-Y-S. And she and I ended up on an online meeting that Ben Williams with Ben’s Plumbing, Heating and Cooling had put together regarding what’s happening in Colorado. And I thought we need to get her on the show. It’s been a long time since she’s been on the show. And so Amy Everett, welcome. It’s good to have you. Thank you, Kim. I’m glad to be here. Amy, there’s so much going on in our world, but Colorado seems to be at the tip of the spear with much of the very really evil stuff that is going on. I was down at the Capitol for the hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee last Wednesday regarding House Bill 251312, which the bill has been watered down. But one has to ask, first of all, how a bill could even be introduced like this. And one of the parts of the bill was that if a child comes home from school and has gender confusion, and if parents don’t affirm that, this bill would have allowed, and still may, but Child Protection Services to take the child from the family. This is downright evil, and we’re realizing that in our schools there’s been a lot of this gender confusion that is being presented through curriculum, after-school activities. We’ve got a lot of evil stuff going on in Colorado. Amy Everett.
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Yes, and it has a lot to do with the shift towards humanism, the shift towards the cancel culture. It’s more of a systemic issue of God being taken out of schools, more and more people not engaging in church, not engaging in their power and authority as believers in Christ. And interestingly, across the state, there is a very strong movement of people turning to God. It’s in the major cities where this ungodliness is thriving.
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Well, and I’ve heard reports that this are 20-somethings. Young people are really searching for the gospel, and there’s been a real movement towards that.
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Definitely. Just last month in Colorado Springs, there was a stadium event where somewhere around a thousand some young people, high school age kids, gathered. And many, many of them came to the saving knowledge of Jesus. And the young people are indeed rallying. We’re hearing that on college campuses. We’re hearing it in high schools across the states. And that’s really the vision of Colorado Praise and what is needed in this state is a shift in the spiritual climate of the state. When believers come together and pray and intercede together as one, the spiritual climate of a community can change and shift. And when the spiritual climate shifts, then those powers of darkness have less ability to control people, to bring bills like 1312 to our Congress. If more and more people pray and intercede, if more and more people turn to Jesus, there’s going to be a greater focus on the gifts of the Spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control. Those are all the things that cause people to flow in the ways of God, not be controlled by the demonic realm and flow in the ways of the world.
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Amy Everett, you mentioned humanism. And I’ve watched this through my life, the postmodernism, relativism. I remember the old saying, you have your truth, I have my truth. Well, there is real truth. And when I talk about on the show that we are searching for truth and clarity, we are searching for truth. real truth. Truth is not a, it’s kind of like the Constitution. There’s not living truth. Well, when I say I’m referring to a living Constitution, there is living truth in Christ, but the changeable truth, I guess that’s what would be the word that I want to use. And so we’ve seen this shift, though, as we moved away, we’re doing things in the society that that really are just crazy. But I think it’s because we have moved away from the truth of Christ.
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That, and yes, and families have, with that focus on humanism, and there’s been a shift in how the family operates. And that’s what’s caused more of the humanism, more of the transhumanism, more of the shift away from the moral biblical truth to relative truth. As you described it, my truth is my truth and yours is yours. That’s the very self-centered focus rather than God-centered focus. When families are are told you can’t discipline your kids, when families are, when children are told everyone’s going to get an award, no one’s going to shine as a star in this t-ball team, then nobody begins to, then the children learn that they don’t need to strive for anything, they just need to participate. They don’t need to beat, they don’t need to excel at anything. When mom and dad can’t discipline, the kids don’t have to obey anybody. The kids don’t have to, there’s no sense of honoring your father and mother. There’s no sense of honoring those older than you, honoring your elders. There’s no sense of honor and respect. That has been taken out of our society because of this whole humanistic, let’s all get along thing. and let’s tolerate as long as you do what I want you to do, tolerate. And that’s really where we are now. The progressive left, the liberal left claim that they are tolerant, but they’re only tolerant if you agree with what they are espousing. And it’s all part of the culture. And it’s because God has been taken out of schools. It’s because less people today go to church and honor the Bible and read the Bible and follow the principles of the truth of the Bible. If we can shift back, that will make a difference. If we can bring God back into the schools, prayer back into the schools, honor and respect, and just a simple return to being kind instead of learning to bully, instead of learning as kids to to dominate. It’s just the shift has to, but from our perspective, the shift has to happen in the spirit realm before it’s gonna happen in the natural.
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And Amy Everett, I think that there have been those that have had an experience with religion where it’s been very legalistic, where it has rules and you do this and you do that. And that’s not certain. It is a little complicated, but the bottom line is, first of all, is the gospel. And the gospel does not force. Christ certainly does not force himself upon others, but their religion can be used to be very legalistic. And so I think that there are those… that have maybe tried to undercut faith by looking at that legalistic component. And there are people that maybe have had a bad experience with that legalistic component as well. And that they say, oh, that if you’re a Christian, people are trying to control your life. Well, actually, no. What we really saw through COVID was it was really, I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that wanted to control our lives, to tell us what to do. And so out of the postmodernism, relativism, humanism, what we saw is it was really about control. And so address this control issue that there are those that struggle with looking at the Christian faith, how do you address that with people?
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Well, a pastor once said, you’ll never find a perfect church because there are people in it. True that. And if you find a perfect church and you attend there, it’s no longer a perfect church because we are not perfect. Right. So you’re never gonna find a church that is 100% everything you think a church should be. That’s kind of number one is our perception of what church should be and who we are. But the second is church isn’t about relationships with the church. Church is about relationship with God. It’s about how we interact and how we build a relationship with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We have to be intentional about our relationship with God before we step through the walls of the church, the doors of the church. Too many churches are about the business of church rather than the relationship of church. And many, many things are happening now through house churches where it’s really about relationship. It’s really about not the business of a building. It’s about how you interact and how you engage with the culture around you, how you relate and engage with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in a relationship with them first. When we have a solid relationship with Jesus, when we can pray and have conversations with Jesus, when we are confident in the Word of God and who we are in the kingdom of God, it doesn’t matter what church you walk into. You’ll find God there in some way, shape, or form, but the church as a structure may not fit your concept of what a church should be. So it’s up to each individual to build and establish their relationship with God first. Then they’ll find a four-walled church that fits with you, or a place that isn’t a four-walled church. One of the most powerful churches I have been in has several thousand people as members. They don’t own a church building. They started out, they’ve only been around seven years, they started out by renting via gym of a school, of a high school, they started doing things as a church to support the school. And then they started supporting the middle schools. And they started doing so much for the school district that the school district came to them and said, we can’t charge you rent anymore. They are now using Meet Weekly in a school auditorium and worship and positively support the local school district in a powerful way. They support 60 to 70 kids show up after school every day. High school kids show up after school every day to receive coaching and mentoring and just after school kind of a peaceful place to hang out because mom and dad are at home. That’s church. That’s people who, over a thousand people, who know their relationship with God individually, who don’t go to a church building to be part of the church building, but who engage in ministry serving the community. And that’s really my vision of what church should be. Not about bringing people into a building, although they need… churchgoers need discipleship. They need the support of a pastor and a leadership team who can guide them and support them and mentor them, but they need to be guiding and supporting and mentoring them into their gifting and calling so that every individual is a minister of the gospel.
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Okay, Amy, we’re going to continue the discussion. I’m talking with Amy Everett with Colorado Praise, and that website is coprays.org. And this is really something that we need to be doing here in Colorado. And I want to talk about how she is working with others to really blanket our state with prayer, because we really need to. because this is an epic battle of good and evil that’s happening in Colorado right now. These are such important discussions, and we have them because of our great sponsors, and I am so pleased to have as a new sponsor the Second Syndicate.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And join me and Teresa Irby, who is our partnership liaison, Thursday, May 15th. We’re going to go out for lunch to the USMC. Memorial Foundation for their golf tournament. And you all can as well. If you’re not a golfer, let’s just all meet out there for lunch. And that is on May 15th. You can go ahead and buy your tickets for lunch or sign up for the golf tournament by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I’m talking with Amy Everett with Colorado Praise. And that website is coprays.org. Amy Everett, tell us, how did Colorado Praise come into being?
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Well, that came through Father Phil Eberhardt and myself having lunch. We were just kind of reconvening from years of relationship when I was leading the National Day of Prayer for the state of Colorado, talking about what prayer was doing or should be doing in the state. Out of that lunch, we decided to start 7 by 24 prayer across Colorado. And that was eight years ago. And currently we’ve engaged pastors, churches, and individuals in prayer initiatives to shift that spiritual climate. We’re building a united, basically united strategic sustainable prayer movement that isn’t reliable on really any, isn’t dependent on leading it. It’s individuals who are rising up to lead prayer in specific ways. We now have five ongoing statewide prayer initiatives, again, for both pastors and for whole congregations and for individuals. So it’s been a long process of getting the word out, which is typically the biggest reason why people haven’t engaged, they just haven’t heard about us. churches can engage. We have what we call the Church Prayer Watch, and we ask pastors to host one 24-hour prayer watch every month on the same day. And currently, Kim, we’ve got 60-plus churches who have agreed to host a Church Prayer Watch. And with 60 churches, every day of the calendar is now covered in nonstop day and night prayer across the state of Colorado. And out of that, we’re beginning to see signs of transformation, not only with the church prayer watch, but with the other four initiatives as well. But we’re beginning to see signs of transformation. In Pagosa Springs, we have four church prayer watches in that tiny little town and a civic prayer team. And with the combination of those two, the leader of that civic prayer team has heard from God that when they have six church prayer watches in Podosa Springs area, the spirit of witchcraft will be broken over that region. And they’re already seeing signs of witchcraft being broken. They’ve had a self-proclaimed witch come to the saving knowledge of Jesus and then go back to the coven, sharing the love of Jesus with her previous coven friends. We’re seeing that shift. In Grand Junction, there’s a move we have a civic prayer team there, and five church prayer watches in Grand Junction. And the city is beginning to see a movement of unity amongst the pastors that they haven’t seen in a long time. The ministerial alliance is growing, and they’re seeing a kindness initiative expand across the state, excuse me, across the county, Mesa County out there, where they are teaching kids in schools that it’s cool to be kind. So the vision, as I said, the shift, the spiritual climate causes things to change in the natural realm. And that’s our foundational prayer initiative is the Church Prayer Watch. So we also engage individuals.
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Go ahead, and then I have a question. I’ll make a note here. I want to ask you about, so go ahead and finish that thought. Sorry about that, Amy.
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That’s okay. So I mentioned the civic prayer teams. The goal of the civic prayer team is to pray specifically for the needs of the city. Pray for the needs of the city, pray for every city influencer by name. That means praying for the mayor, the police chief, the superintendent of the schools, the fire chief, the city council, the county commissioners, the key business leaders in town, and praying for every pastor in town. We have 26 civic prayer teams now covering various cities across Colorado. in prayer, and those are individuals who represent multiple churches, God willing, multiple generations and multiple ethnic groups. Our goal is to have a civic prayer team in every city across the state, and if any of the listeners are interested in starting a civic prayer team or engaging in one, you can find the information on the website, and you can request to start a civic prayer team in your community. Go into copraise.org.
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Okay. This is important work. And it’s also important that we pray and that we’re also engaged. You mentioned the word kind. And this is something that the left has been, they’re very good about language. And it’s been hijacked in some ways. To mean kind means that you don’t, that you basically affirm whatever somebody else is doing. And so what then has happened is that the word kind has been used to, for example, affirm this transgender agenda. And when you use the word kind, kind doesn’t mean that you affirm a non-truth. So address the word kind a little bit more so that when we talk about being kind to each other, what does that really mean?
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It means don’t be a bully. It means don’t force your opinions on other people. It means don’t control another person’s by your actions. At the grade school level, it means don’t be a bully on the playground. Don’t beat up other kids. Don’t take their lunch money. Don’t force them to do things they don’t want to do. Kind is a biblical term of loving one another, which means not only being nice to them, it means being willing to hold other people accountable in love to truth. So being kind can mean telling someone that what they are doing is wrong. It can be telling someone or encouraging someone to seek biblical truth rather than truth of this world. And we need that in every sphere of society, which which leads to one of our other prayer initiatives, which we call the Field of Harvest Prayer Teams. That level of truth, that level of kindness, that level of accountability needs to exist in the education system, in the marketplace, in our government, in our military, in first responders, in arts and entertainment, in every sphere of society. And we have developed 13 Field of Harvest Prayer Teams each one on one of those topics. And individuals can engage with those prayer teams to pray for the education system. Or if your passion is life, you could join the life field of Harvest Prayer Team and pray for the issues of life. That’s where when we are praying and very focused on praying and interceding for a topic, we can shift the spiritual climate around that topic so that individuals working and engaging in that topic can have clarity of mind and clarity of spirit in their beings to be able to flow in godly truth, not in the ways of this world. So that’s the field of harvest prayer team.
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Okay. And there is at the website, a monthly prayer digest. And so, and all this is at Colorado, C-O-P-R-A-Y-S.org, C-O-P-R-A-Y-S.org. Amy Everett, this is really, this is really important. So people can get more information by going to your website. What’s the final thought that you’d like to leave with our listeners?
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I would say that we are in a season of desperation, and we are in a season of expectant hope. We expect a mighty move of God, and I would encourage individuals to seek a strong relationship with God through reading the Word and praying, because now is the time when God is going to respond to the people of God, reaching out to him and standing firm on the word of God, rather than being in fear over the things that we see happening in the natural realm. Faith over fear is where we need to be right now.
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That is for sure, faith over fear. So more information, go to coprays.org. That’s coprays.org. Amy Everett, thank you for all that you’re doing for Colorado and every day. And I added on to my prayer list many more elected representatives as well after we had done that presentation today. that Ben Williams had put together. So I’ve added that into my prayer list as well. So thank you.
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Thank you, Kim. Thank you for what you’re doing through the media. God bless you.
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Thank you so much. Amy Everett, yes, we’re continuing to search for truth and clarity as we look at these issues because the evil one wants chaos and confusion. And that’s why we need to get through all this. That’s why we do what we do on the show is to try to get to the truth and clarity of these particular issues. And we get to do all this because of our sponsors. And one of those great sponsors is John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I’ve had this on my list of things to do. Oh, before I get to that, Second hour, I want to wish Mary Jansen a very happy birthday. She is a fellow CUT Colorado Union of Taxpayer board member. She and Glenn have Jansen photography. Amazing. Have photographed memories for so many people over all these years. Appreciate that. She served on Lakewood City Council and really brought a lot of truth and clarity, I think, to many of those issues there. And I just want to say happy birthday to Mary Jansen. And then Jenny, one of our listeners, had texted this over. And I’ve never asked AI any questions yet. But this, she said that chat GPT, somebody asked them this. If you were the devil, how would you destroy the minds of the next generation? And this is what chat GPT said. And this is really kind of a take on the whole thing about Paul Harvey that he did many years ago on how to destroy America. But anyway, this is from chat GPT. And apparently the AI said this. That’s a heavy and fascinating question. If I were answering from the perspective of the devil trying to corrupt or destroy minds, I think the strategy would be subtle, deceptive, and gradual. It wouldn’t be something obvious like open evil. It would be slow erosion. And here’s how I think the devil might go about it. Number one, normalize distraction. Flood their world with endless entertainment, noise, and notifications so deep thinking and reflection become almost impossible. Number two, blur truth and lies. Make it harder and harder to know what’s real, leading people to doubt everything, including themselves and the existence of truth itself. Number three, mock virtue and celebrate vice. Turn things like humility, patience, courage, and honesty into punchlines or weaknesses while glorifying selfishness, vanity, and instant gratification. Next, promote isolation. Push young people to live online rather than in real communities, making real human connection rare, awkward, and even frightening. next redefine identity confuse them about who they are at the deepest level mentally morally spiritually so they chase after a thousand different false selves and my gosh what could be more than that than trying to have children question whether or not they’re a boy or a girl Then lastly, it says, destroy hope. Convince them that their lives are meaningless, that the future is doomed, and that trying to live well or do good is pointless. And chat GPT finishes this. If you rot the foundation, the structure eventually falls on its own. And then it says, would you want me to write it even darker or even more realistic, depending on what you had in mind? I think that that I think that was just fine. I think that pretty well sums it up. And so we have seen so much of that happening in our world, although after talking with Amy Everett, I also see a good, a lot of good things that are happening. But we have to be disciplined and understand what’s going on. So normalizing distraction. You know, turn the TV off, turn off the phone, be sure and sit down, and this is my recommendation in devotion, prayer, and Bible reading. But blurring truth and lies, oh my gosh, over all these years, when we started to hear this relativism of your truth is your truth, my truth is my truth, then there is no truth. And it devolves where we are now, that have people questioning whether or not they’re a boy or a girl, a man or a woman. And then in this society, actually using government funds here in Colorado to either surgically or pharmaceutically cut off the breasts of our young girls, the penises of our young boys. It’s unbelievable. But also I’ve seen this, mock virtue and celebrate vice. Another thing on that is to no longer to recognize excellence. For example, Cherry Creek Schools no longer has a valedictorian or salutatorian. Is that how you say it? I can’t remember how you say that. And obviously I wasn’t that excellent. and then promote isolation oh my gosh we saw that during covid and then destroy hope and without hope it’s very difficult to live life so um so anyway uh i thought that that was pretty poignant and and we heard this from mark came came in on the text line uh that there is only one truth and um and we need to search for that truth and clarity and all that we do So there’s today and tomorrow are the last days of the Colorado legislative session. I know many may breathe a sigh of relief. And yes, that’s true. But they’ve put so many things into place through unelecteds, these boards and these commissions. and put a lot of power into these boards and commissions as well. And I think that we really need to start to roll back these boards and commissions. I think our elected representatives need to be held accountable for the decisions that are made. And I talked about this earlier. Let me see if I can get to the right headline. That these appointees that the mayor had appointed here in Colorado, or excuse me, in Denver, He is giving many of them double-digit raises, some as much as 30 to 40 percent. In this time where Denver is in decline, Denver has become dirty, it’s become dangerous. The economic forecast for Colorado, because of these policies of the radical activists that control the statehouse, control many of our city councils and as mayors as well. We actually need to pay attention. So as Amy says, first of all, I think we need to pray for our state, but we also need to be engaged. While we are here on this earth, we need to be doing what we can to make sure that we pass on to the next generation this vision of our founding. that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And so what that means is that whether or not it is a piece of legislation down at the statehouse or if it is a city ordinance, that always we need to make sure that we are honoring that vision of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And that is what has made America so unique in all of history, is that we were founded on this idea that and then had the Articles of Confederation because the founders were so concerned about centralized power that they’d seen from the monarchy that they realized centralized power is what is so dangerous. And so we’ve seen this march over this last 250 years, this march towards centralized power. And we need to put government, all of it, back in its appropriate, proper role. And we only could do that by electing people, as when we talk with Jay Davidson, not Republican or Democrat or unaffiliated, any of that. We need to be electing people that believe in limited government instead of big controlling government. And so we have our work cut out for us because what happens is, and I saw it when I was on city council, is well-meaning people get into office and they forget that they are there to represent their constituents and to uphold this vision of of all people are created equal, so every law must treat everybody the same. None of this income-based government programs, because that’s antithetical to the vision of America and also much of us getting out of the proper role of government. But and and then make sure that we are adhering to that at the local, county, state and national level. The other thing is, is they realize the Articles of Confederation did not have broad enough power. And so they created the Constitution. And the Constitution is in place so that we can handle our differences by going to the ballot box. And instead of having to pick up arms the way mankind used to settle differences. And so that is why this Constitution, the original Constitution, is worth conserving and preserving as well. So that’s why we do all of this on the show. And while I mention the Constitution, let’s start to think about Constitution Week up in Grand Lake. They are working on planning on that now. That’s in September. And so be starting to think about that and maybe even making some of your room reservations while you’re going to be up there. But the Constitution of the United States was put in place so that we can settle our differences by going to the ballot box and electing representatives to represent us to protect these principles of our founding of our Declaration, through our founding of the Declaration of Independence. So 250 years ago, a lot was happening regarding the birth of America. And so there’s a lot happening right now. I believe we’re in our third founding of our country. And that’s why engaging in this battle of ideas is so important. And so we’ve got a great week planned for you. So be sure and join us. This second hour, we’ll rebroadcast tonight, 10 to 11 p.m. And of course, everything goes to podcasts as well. But our quote for the end of the show is from Napoleon. He said this, impossible is the word found only in a fool’s dictionary. Wise people create opportunities for themselves and make everything possible. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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