In this riveting episode, Kim Munson provides a comprehensive analysis of the current state of political affairs, focusing on the complex interactions between government policies and individual freedoms. The conversation takes a deeper look at significant legislative issues, such as gun control and the protection of the Second Amendment, as well as examining the role of the judiciary in maintaining or stretching its bounds. With expert insights from Corey Onizorg and others, the episode offers an engaging platform for listeners to understand the dynamics of power and its far-reaching impacts on American society.
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Under this guise of bipartisanship and nonpartisanship, it’s actually tapping down the truth.
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Today’s current opinions and ideas.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team, that’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. And happy Wednesday to you, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And it’s a rainy Wednesday out there, but boy, we need the rain. It’s a life-giving rain, and certainly grateful for that. So check out the website. That is kimmunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. While you’re there, sign up for our weekly email newsletter. That goes out on Sundays, and you’ll get first look at our upcoming guests, as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate, it’s not altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. Force can be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. The agenda by the World Economic Forum, the globalist elites, the United Nations, plays out here, right here in Colorado with the Colorado State Legislature, this Colorado governor, land use codes, regulations, forced fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, transmission lines easements, CO2 emissions, Pipeline easements, the list is pretty long right now, and we need to get that walked back. Remember, if something is a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, try to stay out of all the personality fighting, and just really try to cut through all the chaos and confusion in this battle of ideas. The show comes to you Monday through Friday, 6 to 8 a.m., The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. Then after that, you can catch it on Spotify, iTunes, and that’s on all KLZ 560 platforms. KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app, and you can say, Alexa, play KLZ, and it should come in loud and clear there as well. Our word of the day is oracle. It’s a noun. And it could be a person such as a priestess of ancient Greece through whom a deity is believed to speak. It could be a shrine in which the deity reveals hidden knowledge or the divine purpose through such a person or an answer or decision given by an oracle. Number two, it could be a person giving wise or authoritative decisions or opinions and an authoritative or wise expression or Or answer. And so they have some different sentences here. For example, she became an oracle of pop culture. It’s spelled O-R-A-C-L-E. And your challenge is to use oracle in a sentence today. And I was talking with Colonel Rutledge the other day. We were talking about Patrick Henry. And I thought, well, I’ll go to Patrick Henry for our quote. And I found two. One’s long. We like to use typically a shorter one at the beginning of the show because Zach then likes to post that on social media. But I thought that this one was so important that I wanted to share that with you. So we’ve got two. Patrick Henry was born in 1736, and he died in 1799. He was an American politician, planter, and orator who declared the Second Virginia Convention, or at the Second Virginia Convention, give me liberty or give me death. He was a founding father and served as the first and sixth post-colonial governor of Virginia. And this is what he said, two things. The first, he said, is our Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government. And and we need to get back to the original Constitution, what it actually said and meant. I think there’s a book by that title by Rob Nadelson. But this is the other thing, and I thought this is so interesting with what’s happening with these activist judges. He said, “…power is the great evil with which we are contending. We have divided power between three branches of government and erected checks and balances to prevent abuse of power.” However, where is the check on the power of the judiciary? If we fail to check the power of the judiciary, I predict that we will eventually live under judicial tyranny. And that is Patrick Henry, all those many years ago. And yes, we are seeing activist judges that are way outside the Constitution. As we talked with Scott Powell yesterday, we’re in a constitutional crisis. And as he said in the beginning of his piece, who would have ever dreamed that it would come to us with people wearing robes? But that seems to be the case. Big news here in Colorado is that Trump has got his eyes on this Tina Peters and her case. And I this is very exciting. However, I was talking with someone yesterday and they said that Polis said he is not going to pardon her. I can’t find any headlines on that. So, hey, Eric, if you’re listening, I know you’re all over these things. So let me know if that is, in fact, the case. But she was convicted, I think, of a process crime. And the process that was put in place actually would make it very difficult to do her job to preserve election records under federal law. So she’s in a really a difficult situation. So she did what she thought was the right thing to do to preserve those records. And so she was convicted of process crimes. And the judge – well, they sentenced her to nine years in prison and then refused to let her – set bail during her appeal. So she has been incarcerated for many months now. And people have said, well, why won’t Trump just pardon her? Well, she was convicted of a Colorado state crime but when I was talking with a friend of mine after the show yesterday they say that it was a state crime however I said it seems to me like when they raided her home in 2021 that it was the feds that did that and so I did a check on that and did find that yes in fact it was the FBI that had raided her home So it seems to me like somehow there’s some federal stuff going on as well. So it seems like a strategy to me that they convicted her of a state crime. So this is going to get real interesting now. But to sentence her to nine years when we have illegal alien criminals in that basically are kind of in and out of, if they’ve been convicted of a crime, many times they’re let go again, and again, entering the country illegally. So something doesn’t seem right. on what’s going on here. So again, this is from Patrick Henry. He said, power is the great evil with which we are contending. We have divided power between three branches of government and erected checks and balances to prevent abuse of power. However, where is the check on the power of the judiciary? If we fail to check the power of the judiciary, I predict that we will eventually live under judicial tyranny. So we are at a a really crucial time in our country. This really is, I think, the third founding of our country to determine if we can get government back into its proper roles. Divided government, we’ve seen consolidation of power, And we’ve seen it really local, county, state, and federal level. 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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And please staff on the line with me, Corey Onizorg. He is recently joined the Colorado Union of Taxpayers board, and we are thrilled to have him. And, Corey, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Kim. You staying dry?
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I tell you, these are life-giving rains, and we needed it. But, yeah, it’s a little wet out there.
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Yeah, I wouldn’t want to be caught on I-70 and having a white knuckler, but, yeah. Yeah.
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And so, yeah, these life-giving rains and snows are so important. As I was driving to the station, I saw somebody on a motorcycle, and I thought, ugh, I wonder if he’s going to arrive pretty wet wherever he’s headed.
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Yeah, you know, it’s one of those… I know just about every state when it rains or snows, people slow down about half speed, a lot of swerving. So just be careful out there.
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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So let’s jump into it. Corey, you are so, first of all, so perceptive and you do so much research on so many different issues. And it’s great to have you as a member of the board of directors of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is it’s all volunteer. But it’s really important work. We’d love to have people join us. It’s just $25 a year or $2.08 a month. And what’s your overview of this recent legislative session, which I think today’s the very last day of it. I thought it was yesterday, but I think it’s today.
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Yeah, we made it. Yeah, kind of. It’s, you know, it’s… Every single person on the cut board pays a $25 and spends hours of our weekend writing these bills. And I think you call it sleuthing is your word. And we’re all very thankful that you’re our president and keep us in line. I’m pretty shocked. I think learning how to navigate Bill Track 50, being able to see different types of bills, keywords, not only in the state of Colorado, but I mean, if there’s a bad bill in Colorado, you can almost for sure there’s almost the exact same bill in California. And it’s just been really enlightening. It’s like I contemplate moving, but where would I move to? You can’t outrun the world, right? And so part of that was I also ran for House District 23. And that was quite an experience as well. And so having a chance to rate bills, I like the word no. I’m a big fan of the word no with a lot of these bills that are coming through. And we need better legislators. I mean, at this point, I’d love to see a little bit of involvement. Did you see… Trump was actually, and I wanted to bring this up, he was wanting to free Tina Peters and basically demanded it on some Trump posts and having some accountability and get out of this one-way law here in Colorado, I think would be good. But I still think the two most egregious bills of the legislative season were Senate Bill 003, And House Bill 1312. And, you know, they were the worst bills because they had, you know, lists of 500 to 700 people opposing it. They were trying to get it on, you know, whether it’s Zoom or in person. So.
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Well, and the 003, the Senate Bill 003, was the really egregious Second Amendment bill, which basically is such an assault upon everyday people being able to have a firearm to protect themselves and their families against bad actors. But the other thing is that in this Bill Track 50 that you mentioned is so cool because I had asked Karen, the creator of this, if she would flag some words for us. So, for example, on firearms, I said any bill that has the word firearm in it, would you flag that? So we had all this focus over here on 003. But there were 28 different bills that were addressing something regarding firearms. And so the Second Amendment is really under attack here in Colorado. And so, Corey, it’s a real problem because we’ve got a governor and a state legislature that – We’re a sanctuary state for illegal immigration, and we know that there are bad actors that have come across the border. And so they want to protect that, but yet they want to take away the right for us to protect ourselves against bad actors. And this is what tyranny can look like. We’re headed towards that if we don’t get this turned around in Colorado.
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Well, government is, you’re pretty much guaranteed for it to turn into tyranny without a well-informed populace. And I think reading through all the bills that we’ve read through this year, and it’s funny you bring up or talk about that gun bill. I did want to announce May 10th and 11th, we’ll have a table at the Tanner Gun Show. It’s at Jeffco Fairgrounds, I believe… 9 to 5, you want to meet me in person, we can chat about anything. And we put together a few fun things for that. And, you know, Kim, gun people are my favorite people. My mom’s cousin, he’s got about 100 guns. And he’s got multiple stories behind all of them. They’re like his children. And if I let him, he’d talk probably… from sunup to sundown about his guns. It’s, it’s, it’s hilarious. And anyway, uh, gun people are, you know, we’re getting together and, um, there are so many bad gun bills, uh, over the last 25 years and my research that, uh, people need to be informed and, uh, whether it’s making posters, getting them t-shirts so people can see it, you know, while you’re waiting in line at a grocery store, whatever it is, writing a song, um, We have to be creative in how to get our state back.
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Well, and the Second Syndicate is a new sponsor of the show, which I’m absolutely thrilled about. One of the things that Alicia Garcia has said is that we have the second to protect the first, and that is freedom of speech and freedom of religion, all the things that are in the First Amendment. And one of the first things that dictators do— is they disarm the people. And we saw it with Mao, Stalin, Hitler. And so that’s why it is so important that we do protect our Second Amendment. But the other thing is that 1312, and we’ve talked a lot about that, that was the transgender bill. And the radical activist transgender movement movement is really going after our children. And Corey, in the old days, if we would have had bad actors come into town, first of all, they’re trying to disarm us so we can’t protect our children. But if they came into town and cut off the penises of our young boys and the breasts of our young girls, we would have… We would have stood against that. Now we’ve got a legislature that has tried to, I think they may have watered that bill down. But a bad bill is a bad bill. It should have gone away. But you can rest assured that they will try to sneak things through next year. And, of course, we at CUT will be watching.
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Yes, it’s wild. It’s fun to be on cut. A lot of amazing people. I think we’ve got 19 cut engaged bills for you to be able to send a message to the bill sponsor, your actual representative or state senator. And I encourage everyone to use it and everyone to support it. It’s a great cause. And we do have an open line with all the legislators in Colorado and They see our positions, and we like to think that it makes a difference.
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Well, and I want to say thanks to this board that we get to work with, and it’s Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, you, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And then this cut engaged. We got it going the middle of the year, but it is really – really cool and i mentioned yesterday on the the show to go go in and we had selected 1312 as one of the bills and i had a number of people i get notifications that had actually used it yesterday and so we will only you know refine that and make it more active next year as well but we invested a significant amount in there so again membership we really appreciate it But, um, it’s, it’s going to be, I think a really great tool, Corey.
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Yeah, no, it’s definitely, definitely, uh, listeners follow us, uh, on X as well. Um, the handle is at C O C U T 1776. Uh, and if you want to follow some of the things that I say, uh, it’s Corey, the number four Colorado, um, on X and, uh, We’re trying to get the word out and have a discussion and get away from the silencing, right? First Amendment, just like you said earlier. So I appreciate everything that you do, Kim.
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Well, right back at you, Corey. And you are going to be out at the Tanner Gun Show. And let’s see, what is that? Is it the 10th and the 11th, you said?
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10th and 11th. I believe it’s 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Okay.
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And before you got into all of this stuff that you’re doing now, you were in the NFL. So I think that – let people know what you did in the NFL.
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I punted footballs, and I held footballs for field goals and extra points. And it was – there’s nothing like playing in front of 80,000 fans and also – I think as an athlete, you’re looked up to. And some of the best people that I’ve ever met have had some form of athletic action. And so I encourage everybody. The only way I can keep my sanity, Kim, is to work out every day, get in nature, touch some soil, some grass, something like that. And to keep my sanity, because, I mean, it’s like you almost know too much and you want to inform people, but it can be overwhelming. You also want to be positive and then be solution oriented.
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So, yeah, absolutely. I was watching one of the evening shows last night and Trump, Roger Goodell and Trump were on the same. Goodell was at the White House and they announced that the NFL draft will be in Washington, D.C. the next week. draft and with as woke as the NFL had gotten during you know all the craziness on the summer of love of you know tearing our country apart it’s pretty remarkable that Goodell was at the White House I thought they they try to say that Trump is a divider but gosh it sure seems like he’s bringing a lot of people to the table that you wouldn’t expect what’s your thoughts on that
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I couldn’t agree more. I mean, there’s a long story behind kneeling for the anthem. There were paid actors, Kaepernick being one of them. That’s a long story that I don’t have time for, but I do believe he’s bringing people together. You know, the art of the deal. I do still have some questions about his cabinet. I really think if he’s going to DO ANYTHING HERE IN COLORADO, THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO, WE SHOULD START HAVING SOME VICTORIES, FINDING SOME OF THOSE 325,000 PLUS MISSING CHILDREN THAT CAME THROUGH BIDEN’S, YOU KNOW, SURGE THE BORDER DEBACLE FOR FOUR YEARS. AND SO I REALLY HOPE THAT HE DOES SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. AND I HOPE WE CAN GET OUR ELECTIONS STRAIGHTENED OUT. I HOPE ALSO THAT With Colorado, he can leverage federal dollars to get some of this bad stuff out. But we’ll see.
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Well, I totally agree. And, Corey, we have an amazing team that we’re working with, and we are thrilled to have you as part of the group. And, again, that’s the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. The website is coloradotaxpayer.org. And I think we’ll take just a little respite, and then we’re going to go to work on our ratings report, which we publish, which is a significant amount of work, but it is a wonderful tool. And CUT’s been doing this, volunteers, all volunteers, since 1976. So, Corey Onazorg, you have a great day. Thanks so much.
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Thank you, and I hope all the listeners hope to see you at Jeffco Fairgrounds sometime this weekend at the gun show.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues. Through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. So to be warm when it’s cold outside and cool when it’s hot outside. And so greatly appreciate that. And then next Thursday, Teresa and I will be out at the USMC Memorial Foundation Golf Tournament for lunch. And you can buy a ticket just for lunch. And because if you’re not a golfer, that’s you still want to partake and you still want to support the memorial. And, of course, if you’re a golfer, I know Paula Sarles would really love to have you join them. And you can get all the information about all this at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is entrepreneur and owner of the historic 88 Drive-In Theater, Susan Kochevar. Welcome, Susan. Thank you. Good morning, Kim. How are you? Well, I am well. And it’s the opening of the drive-in theater is right around the corner. But when do you think that might be? Well, this weekend is opening weekend as it would be. This is opening weekend. Awesome. Okay. And what are you going to be showing?
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So we have the Minecraft movie and the second feature is called Sinners.
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Okay. And I actually have seen Minecraft and a lot of kids love it and a lot of big kids love it too. So that’s a great way to open up the 88 Drive-In Theater. So what’s the hours and how can people get tickets and all that kind of stuff?
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Yep, we only sell tickets at the box office for each night showing. The ticket price is $10 per person and children under 12, so it’s probably one of the best deals in Denver for family entertainment, plus you get two movies for that. Although if you bring kids, you either want them to be asleep before centers or probably take them home. It’s not recommended for children. But it’s a good night out. The box office opens at 7 p.m. We expect to be fairly busy this weekend. One of the Denver influencers picked up our Facebook ad, and it went viral on TikTok.com. and Instagram, over 200,000 views.
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So we’re going to work hard this weekend. Oh, my gosh. So you’ve got that vintage popcorn machine ready?
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It’s all ready, yes. We’re just scrubbing everything up, getting everything ready, and we’re very excited.
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Well, I know. I’m a popcorn connoisseur, and I know that you have the best popcorn that I’ve ever had. So I’ll give you that endorsement.
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Thank you. And you learn to make popcorn with our old popper. So it is a gas fired popper. It’s pretty cool. It’s made by a company called Craters. And they couldn’t believe that that model was still in operation somewhere. It’s that old.
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Oh, that’s so cool. But the other thing that you do, you’re an entrepreneur, owner of the 88 Drive-In Theater, but you also are, you’ve run for office several times. You really have an understanding and perspective that I love to have you share on the show regarding what’s happening in our world. And last week we had Jay Davidson on and we were talking about tariffs. And you really look at tariffs a little differently than Jay does. And I thought, let’s start our discussion with Trump and tariffs and your thoughts on that.
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Sounds great. Well, and I love Jay and he’s very smart and very right about tariffs. We just probably disagree on this one issue. So I want to start by saying that because he’s really a good guy.
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He is. And so why do you see it differently?
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Well, I understand what our free market friends are trying to say. They like free markets. They see trade as a way to get along with other countries and sort of have a calm world, I think. And while I definitely understand that, and we want certainly free trade among the states in our country, I think when you’re dealing with other countries, it’s a different situation. We have countries like China and even India and countries as close as Canada who don’t follow or don’t understand free trade. They’re not going to do that. They’re more authoritarian. They control their economies. And I think some of them use economics and tariffs to attack Or, yeah, I guess attack is a good word. Attack the United States. Or, yeah, I just think that’s probably a good word for that. And I think Trump is a businessman, not a politician. And he’s not even an economist. He’s a businessman. And he understands how things work. And I think if he’d have his brothers, there would be no tariffs going back and forth on any countries at all. But what Trump is doing is using the tariffs as a negotiating point. And I was talking to an engineering company last week, and they were saying when they sell things to a country like China, for example, they have to discount their tariffs. technology, 35% in order to sell it to China, because China has a 35% tariff on anything, other products coming into China. Now, that 35%, that engineering company has to discount only to China, because it’s different with other countries, could go for American jobs, It could go for developing technology more. So in that way, I think that China’s 35% tariff hurts our country.
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So does that make sense? It does. So talking about China, I know that Americans, they demand, they want a good product at the cheapest price that they can purchase it at. And I think that because of public policy that we have made employees so expensive to hire people. And so we’ve made labor so expensive that companies, because of consumer demand, moved out of the United States to do manufacturing because they could – produce it cheaper in a different country, but also Americans are demanding that cheaper price as well. What do you think about that connection?
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Well, I think consumers always look for the best quality for the least amount of money they can pay. That’s certainly reasonable, and economics bears that out for sure. So I don’t fault Americans for that, but what I think has happened is that our politicians have essentially sold us out in a lot of ways. I think China and other countries have paid him off and got them to buy interest into companies in China and other countries. And when you have a politician who has his interest in another country, his business interest in another country, it behooves him to pass legislation to make it more difficult for competitors in the United States to to compete with his business interests in China. So yes, I think our taxation and regulations have gone sky high. And so we can’t compete certainly with countries like China who have essentially slave labor and maybe even countries like India who have a lot of people to work. I mean, just sheer numbers. So I think it drove out our industry and it’s slowly choking off our businesses in this country. And one of the things that I think those politicians and others have been busy spreading in our country is this saying, oh, well, you know, we don’t want to go backwards to a manufacturing society. That’s looking backwards. We want to be, you know, a service-based country. And that is not sustainable. That is something they want everybody else to parrot. It is in our best interest to have manufacturing in our country. Those are good jobs, solid jobs. We can look at places like Pittsburgh, who has just been devastated because the manufacturing left because it was so much cheaper to manufacture in China and other countries. When you have manufacturing in this country, not only does it provide jobs, but it is a national security interest. It’s a vital importance. You can’t have everything manufactured steel and everything else in all these other countries because as we know, some of the leaders of these other countries are not reasonable. In fact, they have nefarious intentions and that is their way of, heck, we saw it in China where we got dog food that was killing our dogs. We found that some of the other things that come from China to feed our children have lead in them. They just don’t hold the same manufacturing standards But also that could be used as a way to slowly kill us off. So we want to bring that manufacturing back.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and it is really important that we, as you mentioned, from a national security standpoint. And so I want to drill down just a little bit before we go to break, and that is making labor more and more expensive. And you see that with these forced minimum wage laws. And we talked a little bit about this yesterday, but the very first bill – that was introduced uh here in colorado of the legislative session was house bill 25 1001 enforcement wage hour laws and it says it’s uh concerning the enforcement of wage and hour laws and in connection there with making an appropriation now it sat out there for this whole legislative session and i think that it had second reading uh i i think it’s going to make it through uh Today, I guess. I can’t quite figure out exactly what’s happening. But I think it may be approved today. And I thought yesterday was the last day, but it’s today, I think. But the representatives on this, they’re all Democrats. Representative Monica Duran, Representative Meg Froelich. Senator Jesse Danielson and Senator Chris Kolker. And again, this is government getting in between the employer and the employee. And all that does is it makes it more difficult for the employer to hire people. And so ultimately, there’s less people that will eventually have jobs, as you and I’ve learned from the forced minimum wage conversations we’ve had.
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100%. You look for ways to reduce staff. And don’t forget, they’ve added that family leave onto the payroll also. And now I have to track how many weeks each person works because that’s counted into the numbers. Now, I’m a tiny business and I still have to pay that. I have to match what my employees pay. And it also takes away some of the pay that the employees would receive from me because they pay a percentage of that too. So it really hurts these people who are trying to get into the employment market with a first-time job, and the pay is not very high. Or even somebody who just wants to supplement their income, you know, they just make less. And it really hurts everything.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. And so, again, this is House Bill 25-1001. And that was the enforcement of wage hour laws, which Colorado used to be in the top, I think, top five, according to the Leeds School of Business at CU, for economic growth. We’re 41st in the nation now, and it is because of the policies of this governor, of this mayor of Denver, and many of these other mayors as well. around in the Metro Marist Caucus. And so that’s why we need to continue to keep an eye on all this. And we do that because of the show. Show comes to you because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Susan, you and I have watched this case with Tina Peters and have texted back and forth on some things. And Trump putting out some posts on X to try to put pressure on Polis to pardon her and set her free, I think, is a great new development. What’s your thoughts about all of this that’s happening with Tina Peters?
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree. And just looking at some of the comments on some different social media, I see there are quite a few people who do not quite understand what was going on with Tina. And, you know, county clerks are responsible for making sure that the election was fair and maintaining the voting records for, I think it’s about two years. And that’s what Tina was trying to do. She knew that when Jenna Griswold came in, the Secretary of State, and did what was called a trusted rebuild, it would overwrite all of the voter records. And she was not, by law, she could not allow that to happen. And essentially, she has caught them trying to override those so that they cannot So it’s hard to prove that there was election fraud.
SPEAKER 15 :
So there was processes that were put in place that would prevent clerks from having access to the voting tabulating machines. And Jenna Griswold had, as you mentioned, was going to do this trusted build. And I think Tina even asked a question about was there a possibility that some things could be – And so she, as you say, she knew from federal law she needed to maintain those records. But in order to access the machines, because of processes that were put in place here in Colorado by I think the Secretary of State or the legislature, I need to research that a little bit. She needed to get access to the machine to do that. So granted, it was an avant-garde way to do it, but she felt that she needed to do it. And when I’ve had people say, well, she broke the law, I said, well, at the founding of our country – for example, throwing the tea overboard in the Boston Harbor, that was against the law too. But sometimes laws are not right. And she had to make a decision on that, Susan.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, well, she was caught between two laws. She was caught between federal law and state law. And I will argue that the Democrats put the catch-22 in there so that they can control the elections. You know, I expressed before that I felt that one of the, I could tell one of the races that I ran, the election had been gerrymandered because the total came out at 7.20 p.m. of the votes and never changed. Now, in a true election system, that would not happen. It would change throughout the night, and then you would come up with a total. The previous two were not that way. So I found that very odd. And that’s when I really knew that something was going on. That was also when a truckload of ballots went missing in Adams County for a week. So we have some problems and I know that and Tina was caught in that catch 22. And she did, I think, you know, what is that they call that in Star Trek, Kobayashi Maru? There’s two choices, and neither one of them are really good, so you can just do the best one you did. You could. And look what it cost her. Now, that’s a federal election. So I think Trump actually has standing to go after the state of Colorado for those laws and to free Tina.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I think that’s why the two lawsuits that we all you listeners got got funded before the last election that we got those those filed. And one was United Sovereign Americans that says that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards. as set forth by Congress for our elections. And it’s a civil rights issue. And the other is with Peter Berninger with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice, which we have proof on Election Day under NIVRA, the National Voting Rights Act. As you get closer to the election, there’s fewer things that you can do. So you have to be really targeted. So we looked at some specific voters And we found 14,500 on our targeted list that should not have received ballots who voted. We have those lawsuits filed. And Susan, I know you helped us with that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, those lawsuits are the most important thing that can happen right now. If we do not get our election system sorted out, we can have the greatest candidates in the world, but they will not get elected. You know, and one of the things I think that happens is you’ll see that we’ll get a few good candidates and then the rest of the Republicans elected and the rest will be all Democrats. And that helps to keep the image that the elections are not stolen, right? So you do have to watch that. The one thing I always tell people about evil, because stealing elections and doing the things that they’re happening to us is evil, evil, sometimes good. because then it’s harder to put your finger on it, isn’t it? And that’s what’s happening. So we win a few elections, but look what’s happening at our Capitol. Look at the behavior and the laws that have been passed. It’s terrible.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I’m concerned, as I was looking to see, try to find this thing, whether or not Polos had said no, this came up from about 50 days ago from the Denver Post, And Krista Kafer, she used to be a Republican, I think she’s unaffiliated now, but she’d been a radio talk show host, and she writes regularly in the Denver Post. She was one of the Republicans that had been on the lawsuit to try to keep Trump off the ballot. And she’s written a piece that is titled, No, Tina Peters should not go free only a few months into her nine-year sentence. And what I’ve seen with some of these consultant Republicans are that they’re being told to not weigh in on the difficult issues, to stay away from social issues, to stay away from elections questions. And I think that and just talk about the economy. I don’t think that’s a winning strategy. And I also think that we’re in significant decline. We’ve got to get people back into office that are representing the people and also will take on these difficult issues. And I tossed that out there, Susan Kochivar, and now you have about a minute to comment on that.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think that’s right. You know, one of the things I think that gets missed is you have a Republican Party and you have a Republican platform, and that platform has a whole bunch of things, including social issues. If you do not agree with those, why are you in the Republican Party? And Republican candidates and legislators need to be held accountable to that Republican platform. Otherwise, form another party or go to the Democrat Party and support their platform. But the party platform is the outline of the things the Republican Party supports. And I know one of the things I’ve watched them do in Texas is start to say to candidates, or actually legislators who do not follow the party platform is we’re going to censor you and you will not be able to run again on the Republican ticket in Texas because Texas is having some issues as well. So I think that’s a good way to hold legislators, Republican legislators, feet to the fire and to censor them and not let them run on the Republican ticket again.
SPEAKER 15 :
Boy, there’s so much that we need to unpack on all of this, and we’ll do that again next month. Susan Kochevar, very excited for the 88 Drive-In Theater to be opening this weekend, and so be sure and check out. What is your website? It’s 88drivein.net, and we also have a Facebook page. Okay, 88drivein.net. Susan Kochevar, we will talk again very soon. Thanks, Kim. And our quote from Patrick Henry said this, The liberties of the people never were nor ever will be secure when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe.
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Happy Wednesday, Kim.
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It seems like we were just doing this just a minute ago.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, good morning, Kim.
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SPEAKER 03 :
You know, without going into individual situations, when you and I talk every week, we basically say it’s worth a phone call, you know, always call, but I tell people we won’t steer you into a loan that doesn’t make sense, right? And that’s kind of what happened in this situation. They needed some help, but right now with the rates to where they are, they can’t really get help on my end from lowering their payment. But they did think that they were upside down in their house and were able to determine that they really weren’t. And that staying in there and hanging in there probably was the best thing for them to do, which was nice. That’s where Karen and I collaborated together. But I tell people there’s opportunities when you don’t think there’s opportunities. And, you know, we will help you if you can be helped. But sometimes we can’t. And we’ll be honest with you if we can’t. And that’s what this situation was, basically. And, you know, now we have a feeler out there. And when the time does come and hopefully rates do come down a little bit more, then we’ll try to help these guys better.
SPEAKER 15 :
Awesome. And that’s what I really do just love about you and Karen. And I knew this, but it was just great to hear this from a listener. So let’s talk a little bit about interest rates right now, inflation. What are you seeing with your ear to the ground on all this?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, one thing I forgot to do yesterday was to text you because the Fed is going to announce today at noon the latest move, and normally we would talk tomorrow. But here’s the reason I didn’t do it this morning early is because the consensus is that not much is going to happen today again, that they’re going to change their tone maybe and talk about future meetings. But I’ve told you many times the market doesn’t like surprises, and I think if they lowered today it would be a surprise. to the market, which nobody likes to do. Um, I think they’re, they’re going to say that they’re going to, um, cut rates more in the second half of the year. Um, and so that’s what I expect. But as of right now, we’ve been range bound for, you know, going on, you know, maybe four to six weeks now where the rates haven’t moved much either way. Um, I think part of the reason is that the tariffs have now been announced, but you know, then they had the 90 day moratorium on them while negotiations were happening and things. And, I think the market is just kind of waiting to see what’s going to take effect, what’s going to be implemented at the end of the day, and what effect that’s going to have. And they’re waiting to hear from companies. And while we have that, the 10-year note is just kind of drifting around. You know, in the high 420s, it got as high as like 450, 460, came back down a bit. So it’s just kind of drifting around. So right now we’ve got some stability and things are just hanging out there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, so while we’re just drifting around, is there anything people should do to prepare if interest rates go down? If interest rates go down, will there be so much demand that they’ll go back up? What’s a strategy people should have?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, if interest rates go down, I think there’s buyers that are out there waiting. There are buyers that are buying now. The housing market is active and happening. We’re in that time of year right now where there’s a lot of activity. If interest rates go down, there’ll be more activity. more buyers in the pool. So people right now that we talk about a lot, if you’re looking and you’re interested in moving and you can afford a home at these rates, and like I always say, when you get a rate today, you know what it is and you know it won’t be any higher than that. And if you’re comfortable with that payment, you can always refinance it to a lower rate later. But the biggest thing is to stay in touch with folks like us and get pre-qualified, know what your limits are, So that when you’re out looking, if there is a minor adjustment, particularly in a worse way, if rates go up, then people like me can call and be like, hey, we might need to back off just a little bit. You know, rates just bumped up a little bit. But stay in touch with someone that’s helping you with the financing to make sure that you know where rates are at the time when you finally find that home you like.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and the person they should be calling is you because you know that you take such great care of your clients. What’s the best way for people to reach you, Lorne Levy?
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The best way is always just call 303-880-8881. And that’s Lauren Levy, 303-880-8881. Lauren, thank you for being the professional that you are.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values website. located on the beautiful Riverwalk in Pueblo. And I would suggest that you visit the center. Take the kids down there this summer and enjoy the Riverwalk. There’s great restaurants. Visit the center. See the portraits of valor of our Medal of Honor recipients. Talk about exactly what that means. and i would highly recommend that you check that out the website is americanvaluecenter.org americanvaluecenter.org it is wednesday so that means it is a trent luce wednesday and trent luce is a sixth generation farmer and rancher lives in nebraska but has been for well over 20 years shedding light on the people that feed and fuel us our farmers and our ranchers and how rural America, rural Colorado has really been under attack. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, Kim. Thanks for having me yet one more week. How long have we been doing this? I think we started in 2008. No, we didn’t. You had to think about it for a minute. Like, no, wait, wait, no.
SPEAKER 15 :
I wasn’t on the radio in 2008, but it was probably three years, yes, two or three years.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m thinking three years.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, okay.
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We started talking about chickens. That was what the first conversation was about chickens.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and you said, Kim, Colorado’s in trouble, and we need to be talking about this every week, and so that’s what we’re doing. So first and foremost, I always am intrigued to just hear where you might have been this last week and what you were doing.
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At this moment, I am in Vermilion, South Dakota, and I’m just stopped here because of an overnight. Last night, I attended a planning and zoning meeting in Knox County, Nebraska. and their planning and zoning is most likely going to make a recommendation to the county commissioners to put a moratorium on all wind and solar projects in knox county there were 250 people in attendance it was an absolutely fantastic crowd there were people on both sides of the equation but the people who are for it are getting a check and they want to talk about green energy without including excuse me all of the components that come along with the production, the manufacturing, and how intermittent electricity and what it takes to put these things in place is the farthest thing from green you can ever have. And most importantly, it’s not reliable, not affordable.
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And let me just do a quick little advertisement then for A Climate Conversation, which is the documentary that was funded and put together, produced by Walt Johnson. And then also our great podcast series at A Climate Conversation dot com, where we really delve into these issues. And so I’d suggest people check that out. So continue on, Trent.
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And I had my three minutes and I walked through one hundred and seven thousand five hundred and sixty two dollars. What? Do you know what that is? No.
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$107,562.
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What is it?
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There was a baby in the audience that was 30 days old, and that’s what that baby, along with 330 million other Americans, owe the federal government. Our federal debt is equivalent to $107,562. I’ll correct myself. That was at $722 last night. It’s continuing to grow overnight. And each American citizen owes the federal government, no matter how old you are, $107,562. How can we continue to fund these projects, which are 100% subsidy-driven? They’re all production tax credits. It’s the only reason they do it. If the production tax credit goes away, they abandon the project. And so that was my message to the Planning and Zoning Committee, many. And then I’m off today to Dickey County, North Dakota. where they have constructed and have operating an AI center, which is draining the resources of a local area. And they’re already talking about expanding, even though they can’t keep up with the power needs that is currently taking place.
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So what are you going to do about that when you’re up there?
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We’re going to bring awareness that, again, if they’re asking for subsidies, this needs to stop. Right. The MO is always the same. Now, neighboring county to Dickey County, Lemoore County, yesterday morning I got a phone call from a person who presented at the county commission meeting, and they are taking the first step in creating a moratorium on wind, solar, carbon dioxide pipelines, and AI centers. These data centers are so draining to our resources. It’s time people wake up and realize what’s taking place.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and so everyone is so concerned about AI, but if you don’t – the fact that it’s taking so much energy to run that, one of the ways I think maybe to rein AI in a bit would be to really look at this energy component of that. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Next thing, Trent, and I was trying to find the headline and I couldn’t find it, but I thought I saw something come across the wire that the couple that was being sued by, well, the federal government, the farmers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not sued. Criminal charges.
SPEAKER 15 :
Criminal charges. Okay. I thought I saw that Trump pardoned them, but as I was trying to do a quick search for it, I couldn’t find it.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you’re, you’re, you’re mostly right. Um, You’re talking about Charles and Heather Maude from Scenic, South Dakota, and we talked about them. Their family has been farming in this county since 1910. And it was determined last spring that they’re farming 25 acres on each side of a fence that is not rightfully theirs. And instead of the Forest Service, the United States Forest Service, which is the land that’s in question, Instead of coming and sitting down with them at the kitchen table and saying, look, we’ve we resurveyed and you’ve got 25 acres of your hay ground that’s ours. Can we fix this? Instead, Travis Lunders, special agent for the Forest Service, stormed their place like he was breaking into a mafia drug deal and served them indictment papers on June 24th, 2024. And they were indicted. both charged with theft of federal property. If convicted individually, they charged them individually, not as a couple. If convicted, they would have each spent 10 years in prison and up to a $250,000 fine. We had, and I know that you and I talked about this after I went to see in South Dakota, state representative Liz May did a fantastic job. She’s their state rep in the state of South Dakota. organized an event where 100 local families and supporters and friends and 17 state senators slash representative state lawmakers came to seeing South Dakota, had a meeting to talk about and bring awareness to what was happening to the mods. One week after that meeting, the Forest Service at the USDA, Forest Service is part of the United States Department of Agriculture, It garnered the attention of Brooke Rollins with the USDA, and they flew the mods to Washington, D.C., in the White House two weeks ago now. And they made a big announcement that all criminal charges have been dropped against the mods. And they had the mod family there. The South Dakota delegation at the federal level was so embarrassing, including Kristi Noem, the governor at the time these charges were brought about. You know, Kristi Noem, if you follow her as governor, she did nothing behind the scenes. She had a $50,000 media trailer. She wanted to be in front of that camera every single day. And she stood in front of the nation and said, I was working behind the scenes at trying to get this fixed with Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack. Kim, Kristi Noem didn’t even have her extramarital affair behind the scenes. That was out front and center. This woman is all about publicity. And the current governor, Larry Roden, spoke. Senator Mike Brown spoke. Dusty Johnson spoke, who’s the representative from South Dakota. And we had Kristi Noem, the former governor. And then there was a U.S. representative from Wyoming, Harriet Hageman, who spoke. She’s the only one of those individuals who did anything to try to help the MoDs before this situation occurred and before the USDA dropped all criminal charges. She’s the only one when she spoke did not take credit for it. And so the good news of the day is that criminal charges against Samadz have been dropped. I am concerned that’s not the end of the story, but we’ll stay tuned for what develops next.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and we’ve got just a couple of minutes, but Kristi Noem, first of all, she is pretty gorgeous. And she seems to me like she’s doing a pretty good job as the Secretary of Homeland Security. What’s your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, she has her purse stolen at a restaurant with $3,000 cash in it by an illegal person. What are the odds that happens, Kim? She’s in a restaurant in a legal that she’s supposedly taking out of this country, steals her purse that just happens to have $3,000 cash in it. Let’s stop and think about how practical this is. The woman’s a fraud. I don’t trust anything she says. And I’ve known her personally for now coming on five years.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. Well, that’s one of the things, Trent, you tell it like you see it. Okay. On that note, we’re going to go to break. And we get to have these discussions because of our sponsors. And I’m so pleased to have the Second Syndicate as a new sponsor of the show.
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SPEAKER 15 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I do thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And Trent Luce, we are having a wonderful rain. We had about 24 hours of rain here in Colorado. Are you guys getting any rain while back at the farm in Nebraska?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, in fact, I’ve been getting daily updates from people who are looking at long-term weather forecasts for a big chunk of the Great Plains and the food-producing region, and nobody is talking about a good year in terms of moisture in 2025. In fact, just before we started, Kim, I had somebody from Iowa send me a note that they are predicting highs and lows to be parallel to what it was in 1936. in one of the last years of the Dust Bowl, and highs over 100 every day and lows at about 80.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow. So those that want to talk about climate change will use this as an example of climate change. How would you respond to that?
SPEAKER 07 :
The Grand Canyon was created by a glacier melt. It created erosion that will never be repaired again. And we somehow want to talk about a summer of 100 degree temperatures as a result of climate change. I don’t think you’re very good at history if you want to talk about we are causing climate change.
SPEAKER 15 :
okay well and but through this narrative of climate change which walt uh the movie that we did a climate conversation is so important uh for this time and and co2 we talk about co2 on a regular basis co2 has been called a greenhouse gas which is bad but yet we know out here in colorado in the greenhouse grow houses for marijuana They put CO2 into it so that the plants will thrive and prosper. So greenhouse CO2 has been demonized, which actually from the – in the documentary, I think it was Gregory Rydestone said it’s really the miracle molecule. So – that kind of sets us up here for this article that you sent over to me. This is from union rail and it says farewell to oxygen on planet earth. NASA scientists predict earth’s atmosphere will lose its ability to sustain life. Photosynthesis photosynthesis will collapse as CO2 declines. Uh, So we’re all going to die, huh? Well, I guess we are anyway.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, if you read the whole article, they’re talking about what’s going to happen in one billion years.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know. And it’s like they can’t get the weather right in the next 24 hours. How can they tell us what’s going to happen in a billion years?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but the point that I wanted to kind of emphasize is, We have not just the federal government. We have a world that is talking about burying CO2 because it is creating a warming of the earth. Okay, number one, that’s problematic because one of the 17 commercial uses for CO2, if we capture it and use it in the commercial sector, not compress it and put it in a pipeline and then bury it a mile and a half deep under earth, is dry ice. because it is 90 degrees below zero and so somehow a cooling molecule which by the way i would agree 100 is a miracle molecule that is responsible for creating cold beer and other carbonized products in a canister that keeps it cold that’s what it does and yet this is causing earth to warm But more problematic than anything, when you talk about burying, which the United Nations has said they want 325 trillion tons of CO2 buried by 2030. When you have you nailed it with the greenhouses, not only the marijuana grow houses, but greenhouses that are in the commercial business, they add and they will run upwards of 700 or 7.7 percent. We’re 430 percent. parts per million of CO2 in the Earth’s atmosphere, they’ll run 700 parts per million in a greenhouse because the more CO2 you have, the faster the plant grows, the less water the plant needs to grow, and the more oxygen that is emitted from the plant. It’s called photosynthesis. That’s how God made it. It works out fantastic. And yet we want to bury this miracle molecule and somehow think that we’re going to have the same amount of photosynthesis in plants. Well, if you continue to bury CO2, you are going to run short on oxygen because that’s where oxygen is generated from the photosynthesis in these plants. It’s just basic science that every fifth grade student understands, Kim. And yet all of our policymakers are throwing tax credits at this like they can’t get to them fast enough. And we come back to $107,562 per person at 722 last night.
SPEAKER 15 :
So these tax credits and tax incentives, I think a lot of this goes all the way back to the progressive amendments to the Constitution, and one of those was the income tax, which, what was it, 1914? Thirteen. Thirteen, okay. And so you put in this tax, and then the next thing you know, there’s going to be all kinds of different ways that some people will get a break. So what happens then is that the PBIs are now in control. And I think that we – well, first of all, we’ve got to get rid of all these government grants. We’ve got to get rid of all of these tax incentives, lower taxes across the board. That’s how you create an even playing field. And as I’m saying, tax incentives and these – lower taxes. I don’t think we should have nonprofits and many of these NGOs, nonprofits, in air quotes, it’s not that they’re nonprofits. They have all kinds of money. It’s that they just don’t pay taxes. And so I think that we just lower all that across the board, get the economy going, stop the government spending. And I think that we could get this ship turned around for sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, and that’s the problem. I agree with you 100%. And that’s the problem I have with the Trump administration the way it is today. They’re pretending to slash programs, eliminate grants, do all of these things that need to be a part of what we’re doing. But at the same time, the USDA is looking at a 342% increase in farm subsidies in the calendar year 2025. You can’t talk about one thing and then be doing the other thing, which is creating more dependency.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yes, and with dependency comes control. And so many of our farmers and ranchers are being squeezed. And so we have to look at the real reason that they’re being squeezed. And we’ve talked about it, and that is property taxes. And so you tax them like crazy, then you give them subsidies to try to help keep them in business, and then government controls everything. We got to get this turned around. And I like. So let’s talk a little bit about Harvard. This has been fascinating to watch the Trump administration with Harvard. And it’s so it’s interesting that Harvard there’s they’re wanting to hide behind free speech and and. Free speech, I think, is really important, and free speech means that people can say things that you don’t like, but we don’t have to be paying them. I had no idea that Harvard was getting this kind of money from the government. And out here in Colorado, I know that our state universities and colleges are getting money from the state government. This is not how it is supposed to be, Trent Luce. And I do really, I’m very excited about the Trump administration shedding light on this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you remember the Charles Lieberman story?
SPEAKER 15 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Harvard professor who was doing work in nanotechnology research.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I do, I do.
SPEAKER 07 :
And he was with China. We determined that he was getting $80,000 a month cash. From China. Right. And he was actually doing nanowork nanotechnology work on how to create a chip to insert into a human brain. And the irony of this whole situation is that he’s in prison today, not because he was getting money from China to do work at Harvard, because he lied about it. He was getting the money in cash and he lied to federal authorities. This educational system is just flawed at every turn. I’ve witnessed the land-grant institutions, the great land-grant institutions, which literally built the United States agricultural system to be what it is today. And today they’re all chasing grants and funding faster than the horses ran at the Kentucky Derby, that they can’t stop talking about whatever the new buzzword is, I spoke in upstate New York last year in February. I watched Cornell University, which has been one of the fantastic land-grant universities, and they couldn’t stop talking about how we must study climate change. We’ve got to figure out what’s going on with climate change. That’s because that’s where all the USDA money was going at the time. We’ve got to stop chasing money like a bunch of ambulance chasers at our universities.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and you unpack that a little bit more. Those PBIs that were in charge of giving these grants, and I’ve learned the green in the Green New Deal is the green that’s going into all these PBIs’ pockets. They’re not creating a… They’re not creating anything. They’re living off of all of us. So they get this idea, they scare everybody that the earth is going to be destroyed because of human beings. But in order to really push that narrative, then they need to get, I have this in air quotes, credibility so you need to have universities and do these studies and say this is what we found well when the money is connected to the people that want you to get a specific answer you’re going to get that specific answer but it has become this huge this huge boondoggle yeah I was gonna say farce but boondoggle the word of the year the word okay I’ll have to use that And so shedding light on this, and I was talking with Producer Joe about it yesterday. So not only do you have these universities that are getting all of these grants and all of this money, then they’re nonprofits, so they have all these endowments. where people have given money and they get a tax write-off to do so. And then you have the government over here, and this was with the Obama administration, take over the student loan industry now. And it made it so easy for kids to take out loans that they hadn’t really thought about just what it would mean to pay it back, telling kids, That if you got a college education, you’re going to get a better job. You’re going to have better wage earnings throughout your whole life. And then kids take on the debt and many of them get out of college. They’re like, they lied to me. And so you have really a number of different things going on here. But these professors are getting paid healthy salaries. These kids are taking on this debt over here. It’s subsidized. They’re taking all this federal money, and they’re nonprofits. There’s something really wrong with this picture. And they’re teaching people to hate America, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
I couldn’t agree more. The education system is flawed and completely needs to be restructured.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I hope that that’s what the Trump administration is going to get accomplished here. So we’re going to continue the discussion with Trent Luce. And all these things happen because of our sponsors. And a great sponsor of the show is John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 15 :
It is a great day to be alive, and it’s a great day to be engaged in this battle of ideas that’s raging in our country. Before we continue the discussion with Trent Luce, I wanted to mention the two nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis on the show is the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation, and they’re having a golf tournament a week from today. And I’m not a golfer, but I am going to go out there for lunch. So you can do that. You can actually buy a lunch ticket. And I would love to have you join us out there. You can support the Marine Memorial, meet some great people. And, of course, if you’re a golfer, my understanding is the Ridge is a beautiful course. So check that out. And then also the Center for American Values located in Pueblo is doing such amazing work. They’re focused on these principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism, and those are things that we used to teach our kids in school, and we really have gotten away from that. And Trent Luce, here in Colorado, we’re just done with the Colorado State Legislative Session, and I know you’ve watched from… afar, but it’s been absolutely crazy stuff here. There’s things that have gotten a lot of attention, but as the president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, we see all of the legislation that is proposed. There were 733 bills or resolutions that were introduced this legislative session here in Colorado, Trent Luce, and the CUT All-Volunteer Board introduced took positions on 261 of those, and we look at these bills through the lens of how does it affect the taxpayer, education of our children, property rights, and protecting Tabor, Colorado’s taxpayers’ bill of rights. So I know people looking out, I talk with people outside of Colorado, they’re like, what is going on there?
SPEAKER 07 :
You could say that with a lot of states. Illinois has suddenly taken a whole new level of stupidity with Governor Pritzker, but the I think your first sentence summarized the whole thing. We’re done with the Colorado legislative session. We’re done with it. It’s toast.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, we’ve got to get engaged in these elections, and we’re doing work on we’ve got to get to make sure that we can trust these elections. But there’s some other things that’s on your radar, and you’ve got a friend out in Nevada. So talk to me a little bit about him.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, first of all, are you a taxpayer?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just looked up, and everybody can keep track of this, and I look at it daily just as a reminder where we’re at. I mentioned it before. I said last night that at 722, when I looked at it, the debt per citizen was 107,562. It’s now 107,567. It’s increased by $5 since last night. But that is per citizen. It doesn’t take into account the illegals, by the way. But there’s also a line here with a debt per taxpayer. So if you’re a taxpayer, as opposed to that baby that I referenced earlier, your payment due to the federal government at this moment is $323,050. That’s what you owe the federal government. Just thought I’d shed a little light on that for you.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s the federal government. And just think of all the other things that we pay taxes on.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. So The reason I wanted to mention Hank Vogler, my friend from Nevada, who’s been on my Rollout radio broadcast for 19 years every Monday. He’s continually a target. He runs sheep. He runs cattle, mostly on Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service land. So last week or two weeks ago, when Brooke Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture for the USDA, was talking about dropping all criminal charges against the Mauds, She went out of her way to say that we have created a portal. And if you know of someone or you have been targeted by an overreach of the federal government, and of course they blame Biden, but these things all go way back beyond Biden, then we want to know about it and we’re going to fix it. I don’t personally know anybody who’s been targeted more than Hank Vogler. There’s only 12 sheep men left. in Nevada and he’s friends and just pulled some bucks out of Meeker Colorado and so everybody in the western part of Colorado from a sheep standpoint is dealing with the same thing they rely on temporary agricultural workers H2A workers Hank has typically 20 to 22 H2A workers at one time most of his come through Peru most of them some of them have been with him for 25 years And he’s just developed his loyalty and his bond. Well, he has been audited four times in the past seven years, audited by the Department of Labor. And they have now assessed, because of their audit last August, that they are going to fine him $42,620.22 plus remove his H-2A workers for three years because of three infractions. And this is where you say, well, what did he do, Trent?
SPEAKER 15 :
What did he do, Trent?
SPEAKER 07 :
He has a bunkhouse that is nicer than this hotel I’m staying in in Vermilion, South Dakota right now that he provides. He built a bunkhouse while he was still living in a tar paper shack. I mean, literally, I stayed in this tar paper shack when Hank had this place when I first went out there. And they find him because in this bunkhouse, he has beds and a commissary. And it’s just this beautiful place. The beds were five inches too close to the floor. They went out to sheep camp because in sheep camp, you have these H-2A workers, usually in pairs, that live in a sheep camp, which for those that don’t know, that’s just like a recreational camper, but it’s a sheep camp. It’s got everything. It’s completely controlled. It’s got Wi-Fi. It’s got solar electricity. It’s got everything you can need. So they go out there and inspect sheep camp, and they saw a bucket of water sitting that the horse drinks out of, that the person who tends to the sheep has a horse, and a bucket of water was there. They included that because the water could become stagnant and attract mosquitoes. And the third infraction was that there was a four-pound bag of rice that had roughly a pound left in it. It was wrapped with a cotton tie, but it was not in a sealed container. Those three infractions have led to a potential 40, he’s been told he has to pay a $42,620.22 fine, plus lose his workers for three years that will put him out of business. And on top of all of that, he is being targeted because of Southern Nevada Water Authority, which is a government agency based out of Las Vegas, which is taking, buying ranches, taking water, the water rights that come along with the purchase of a ranch, And they are now receiving livestock grazing permits to run livestock on the places that they’re buying when they’re really just buying them to get the water. It is blatantly a violation of the U.S. Forest Service handbook. I read it again this week. I put it together in my column. It lists the eligibility, and it clearly says that you must be a citizen in order to achieve a Forest Service permit. This is a government agency permit. So Hank Vogler has gone to the portal. He has submitted why he is being targeted by this overreach of the federal government. And so I’m issuing this shut up or put up or shut up claim to Brooke Rollins because she stood in front of everybody and said, we’re going to fix all of these overreaches. There’s no bigger overreach than what Hank Vogler is dealing with. We will see what happens.
SPEAKER 15 :
So water is such an important issue in the West, and I’m going to have natural resource expert Greg Walsher on tomorrow to talk about water. But it seems to me if we really were serious about solving these issues regarding water, out here in the West, we might first of all go to California and say, hey, you’ve got all this water on your western coast. Why don’t you start to work to desalinate water to provide for your citizens, which would reduce the demand of the water coming down the Colorado, which would help all of the states upstream from that. But it seems it’s just not water. It seems like all these different things is that if we use creativity and innovation and really rolled up our sleeves to solve these problems, then these PBIs lose their power.
SPEAKER 07 :
One hundred percent. You just nailed it in the last sentence. It’s the Delta smelt issue of California. I don’t know how much you know about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
I do.
SPEAKER 07 :
I cut my teeth on that and went out there in 2002, been working, trying to educate. There is no education. They know that the Delta smelt does not need that water. They simply want to remove the water from irrigation and food production for what you just said, control of the land and the resources.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that’s why we are in, I really think, the third founding of our country. Trent Luce, we’re in this big battle of ideas. Elections matter. They really matter here in Colorado. And that’s why we’re working on it. We got our two lawsuits out there and then also helped Holly Kaysen with their appeal to stop NGO lawfare. So we’re engaged in this battle of ideas every day. And you were on this before most of us, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I also want to say thank you to Kim Munson’s show and creating the opportunity because it sounds to me like with the champions that are in Boulder County, Colorado, that young people will once again get the opportunity to bring their horses and learn about life thanks to what you created in it last week. and Cindy Johnson and her team for saying we’re not going to back down. That is what it’s about.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know it. And we’re going to stand for liberty. Liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. Trent Luce, it’s always a pleasure. And just your final thought as we head into the week.
SPEAKER 07 :
It only takes one. Too many times we think we’re just one person and we don’t matter. It just takes one person to start a movement, to be a champion, and then we change the world and we have the re-founding of America, like Kim Munson said.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, Trent Luce, thanks for all your great work. We’ll talk next week. Can’t wait. Okay. And our quote for the end of the show is Patrick Henry said, The liberties of a people never were nor ever will be secure when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. So, my friends, today be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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