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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And we’ve got a great show planned for you. Be sure and check out the website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. While you’re there, make sure you’re signed up for the weekly email newsletter that we send out on Sundays that highlight the upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. And I want to say thank you to all of you who texted in Mother’s Day wishes. I really do appreciate that. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, their freedom, livelihood, their opportunities, their childhoods, their lives via force. Force can be obviously a weapon, but policy, an unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda by the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites using the United Nations – playing it out at this Colorado State Legislature with this governor. Land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, transmission line easements, CO2 pipeline easements, all kinds of things out there. And we’ve got to get this back in the proper role where… individuals have property rights instead of government controlling everything. And remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, not the personalities. We’ll mention people, obviously, that are in these issues, but we are really working to stay out of all of that. You can listen to the show on all KLZ platforms. That’s KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app, Alexa, Play, KLZ, and then after we get everything up on the website, you can find it at Spotify and iTunes as well. So let’s get into our word of the day. And I found this word when I was looking for quotes last week. This was from an Alexander Hamilton quote. And the word is obsequious. It’s O-B-S-E-Q-U-I-O-U-S. And it could be marked by or exhibiting a fawning attentiveness. And let’s see. I would say when I’ve been down at the State House and I’ve testified that there are those legislators that are obsequious sometimes in acting like that they are listening to constituents, but they are not. So again, your challenge is to use the word obsequious in a sentence today. Our quote of the day, and this is from producer Steve, who is in retirement now. He sent this over from Dwight D. Eisenhower. And Dwight David Eisenhower, also known as Ike, was born in 1890. He died in 1969. He was the 34th president of the United States. And during World War II, he was the supreme commander of the Allied Army. expeditionary force in europe and achieved the five-star rank as general of the army he planned and supervised two of the most consequential military campaigns of world war ii operation torch in the north africa campaign in 42 and 43 and the invasion of normandy in 1944 and he said this if a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it’s not a political party. It is merely a conspiracy to seize power. And I think that that’s so important in this political climate that we are in at this particular point in time. Because I see it on both sides of the aisle. It’s more about power than advancing this cause that is right and that is moral. That is moral. And what we’ve seen with some of the Republican consultants here in Colorado is they’ve said, stay away. They’re recommending to candidates, stay away from the social issues. Just focus on economics. And maybe even Second Amendment, they can pull that in. But we can see then what has happened is we’ve gotten to a place here in Colorado where with House Bill 1312 that is headed to the governor’s desk that basically puts in place that if a – and it’s watered down a bit. I have not read the final bill at this time, and I will do that. But basically, the premise of the bill was that if after your child has gone to public schools and unbeknownst to you, they’ve been indoctrinated or introduced to all kinds of carnal kind of things instead of learning big ideas and how to read and write and do arithmetic. And then they come home and they say, I think instead of Jenny, I’m Jimmy. And you don’t affirm that. The Child Protection Services could come in and take your child. When I’ve talked with people about this, it’s so crazy they can’t believe that that could happen. Also in that bill is if Jimmy comes in and says he’s Ginny, and if you don’t call Jimmy Ginny, that could be considered discrimination in places of public accommodation. And so that could open up all kinds of lawsuits. which all those lawsuits require resources which takes people’s property and so we can see that it’s very important that we are in this sphere of of social issues as well. And again, from Dwight D. Eisenhower, if a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it’s not a political party. It is merely a conspiracy to take power. And I guess we’re going to give credence to producer Steve because he had sent this to me, oh gosh, a while ago. And this is from Martha Gellhorn. She was an American novelist, writer, and journalist. And we’ve read this before on the show. And she was born in 1908, died in 1998. And I had been talking with a young person recently. regarding education, charter schools, and the rub that there’s been between those that are such supporters of public schools, which I think it’s important. What’s happened is that our public education system has been hijacked. Our kids are being taught things that we had no idea that they were being taught. And and so we we have, though, this big rub right now between many public educators who I think are really trying to do a good job. But also, I think that they have gotten hijacked a little bit on this whole trans mania. We’ll talk with Kevin Lumberg tomorrow. He thought he coined that word had been out there before. But the trans mania that’s going on. And so anyway, this discussion ended between a proponent of a charter school and a friend who is a public educator. And it devolves down to the instead of listening that, oh, well, you know, I’m not really that much into politics. Well, this is what Martha Gellhorn said. She said, And then going back to Eisenhower’s quote, And we must be advancing a cause that is right and that is moral. And, of course, America was founded on that cause of liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. I wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of this show. As I mentioned, we are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And again, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Trump, a few days ago, had come up with this idea of a tax on millionaires. And he’s receiving some resistance. And this is from the Hill. And I have to agree with the resistance. We’ve got to get to the foundation of the American idea that we are all treated equal. We all need to have skin in the game. And I love the idea of no income tax, but once you get to a point where you penalize people taking risk and creating wealth, it actually trickles down into the economy where those people don’t take risk, they don’t hire people. And so we need to get to… impartial taxation and we need to get lower taxes and more money, people keeping more money in their pocket. But this is from The Hill. It said, President Trump’s last minute pitch to raise taxes on the highest income Americans could be rewriting the conventional Republican political wisdom on the issue. It says the president has sent mixed messages publicly about where he stands on the policy and whether he thinks it’s good politics, both recognizing the political perils of reneging on a promise to keep tax rates lower. He can’t do that. That is what happened with George H.W. Bush. He looked in the camera and he said, no new taxes. And then he raised taxes. And he basically that’s that’s not telling the truth. So, President Trump has got to keep his promise on that, while seeing the upside in neutralizing Democrat arguments and finding more revenue. Remember, the one thing in all this that we have to talk about is lowering spending. And I love what Doge is doing as far as finding waste, fraud, and abuse. That is a great way to reduce spending. But we’ve also all got to tighten our belts. I wonder if we could just tighten our belts 2% across the board, what that might do for us. And so let’s stay tuned. But I am not for a millionaire tax hike. I’m for lower taxes across the board. Did want to mention also Hooters restaurants. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And how I got to know them, great story about proper role of government, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties trying to control things instead of letting businesses compete in the free market. And they have great specials Monday through Friday for lunch. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues. through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom something’s a good idea you should not have to force people to do it so pleased to have on the line with me citizen watchdog and that is mike rollick he’s watched what’s been happening down at the state house also on the local level on a variety of things and i was thinking about him as i was preparing copy for the newsletter and for all the spots that we record and i thought i have a new name And it is Big Brother, Colorado. What do you think of that, Mike Rolick? Welcome to the show.
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Hey, Kim. Good morning. Yeah, well, unfortunately, it definitely starts to seem like that. But the good news is, I don’t know if you saw, but Senate Bill 25011 apparently is still stuck under consideration. It was referred to Appropriations. And sorry, just a quick backup. I know we’ve been talking a lot, but that was the AI wildfire detection bill. And it wasn’t signed.
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Okay, so it’s not on its way to – so did it basically just die because it ran out of time?
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Gosh, it seems like that. It was referred to Appropriations. on April 29th, and I haven’t seen anything since then. So, yeah, it has not hit Chair Polis’ desk yet. I know there’s a potential for a special session, but I think that was more based on Colorado legislative reaction to what might happen at the federal level. So I don’t know if that means that they might try to reinvigorate this bill as well. But as of right now, it’s actually not signed. So it looks like it might be kind of stuck in limbo.
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Okay, well, that would be good news. Let’s set this up a little bit more for everyone. This is a strategy. So the Senate Bill 011 was – and we’ve talked about it before, but if people are not familiar with it – It was ostensibly to watch for wildfires out in Colorado. And of course, we’ve had intense wildfires. People are concerned about that. But this is a strategy by these PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties, that they may have. And there may be those in that realm that think it’s a good idea, but there are those, when you and I both see the bigger picture, is there are those that it would be basically surveillance of all of Colorado, rural Colorado, under the guise of looking for wildfires. And that’s a real problem. And so I’m glad that you have been on this, Mike Rolick, because it’s in our Constitution that we have a right to privacy.
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Yeah, correct there is. And this is a new kind of realm of privacy in the digital age and then privacy in the AI age. And I spoke with someone at Institute for Justice, and they’re interested in looking into this. They do have that lawsuit against Norfolk, Virginia, for the use of block safety and the fact that at what point the storing data and then looking backwards for a crime constitute an illegal search under the Fourth Amendment. Carpenter v. U.S. is another good resource case for that situation, and that was asking for, I guess, I think it was 30 days of cell phone records to try to find a potential crime in those records. So I’m glad the Institute for Justice is now aware of the wildfire component of this new paradigm of AI-connected cameras, looking at and storing data.
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And with this, the problem with all of this is under the guise of some kind of safety thing. This is where they are really getting us regarding our privacy. And it was like somebody’s watching all the time. And you and i mentioned talked a little bit about this i remember with the patriot act when that was proposed of course we were had had a terror attack upon our country and we’re all you know off kilter a little bit and i remember when i heard about that i thought this seems like this is an overreach of government but they say oh it’s to keep us safe well let’s go back to the senate bill 0-1-1 Wildfires are a problem here in Colorado. But part of it is because we’re not managing our forests and our grasslands properly. And so that would be the first step. Instead of putting in a private company that would be watching all of us, we need to start to actually get serious about real wildfire mitigation by managing our forests and our grasslands better, Mike Rollick.
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I would definitely agree, and it was interesting. We just held the candidate forum for the Arvada Fire Protection District, and one thing that we didn’t realize is that Arvada Fire Protection District actually offers services. We’ll come out to a community, have a meeting with the HOA and the community to discuss home hardening, to discuss defensible space, different strategies for fences, materials, just different plants that are resistant. I saw this to great effect in California when I lived there. There were certain places that made great use of landscaping plants to avoid fires wholesale. And that’s been going back 20 years now. So it is interesting when you look at that kind of thing versus, well, we have to watch every minute, literally every minute with some of these technologies of a 20-mile radius of every spot of land. So it is a dichotomy of philosophy, and I’m more for the depends of all states. And everybody out there, contact your fire protection district and see what kind of services they provide. They’ll even come out and do fire detection equipment in your house for free. They’ll check the smoke alarms, what have you, and just replace whatever needs to happen. So they’re looking forward to try to help stop these kind of things as well. And I think people don’t realize that, and so that service is being underutilized.
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OK, that’s good to know. Let’s move over here to these flock cameras. And I just did a quick search on it for flock here in Colorado. It looks like Denver has it, city of Longmont. Explain these flock cameras. Again, it’s under the guise of fighting crime, keeping people safe. But yet we’ve seen this legislature has passed all kinds of different bills that’s soft on crime. So how can you be soft on crime over here and say you want to use these cameras to solve crime? Again, there’s a disconnect to this with me, Mike Rollick.
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I would agree. I would agree as well. You know, one of the conversations I had with one of the reps when 003 was getting looked at was it was a basic, simple fact of hate.
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And that’s that’s the firearm bill.
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003.
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That’s that major firearm bill. Exactly. And it was, hey, instead of looking at legal, lawfully abiding gun owners, why aren’t we looking at if someone commits a crime to throw more of a penalty at them? And the answer was, well, the state doesn’t have money. So I was like, hold on. So if the state doesn’t have money to take a criminal into jail and keep them there for longer for using a gun in a crime, instead you want to just try to remove people’s rights to have guns. So it’s interesting in that sense with the cameras, what happens there? So you might capture a crime, but then what happens to the actual criminal? We it’s a great dichotomy question, but the good news is that that that prison bed. Bill actually failed as well. That was one that was trying to fast track. People out of prison after they were already. Have committed a crime and were convicted so. We were watching that one as well, and that one actually did not get passed.
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And the titles of these bills are so funny in a way. Wasn’t that the appropriate use of prison beds or something? Wasn’t that how that was titled?
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Yes, it was, and that was really misleading. When I saw that title at first, I was thinking, was it ergonomics? Was it, you know— How does this work out? But it was but they’re talking about prison beds being the number of people in prison in that sense and how to use those spaces, I guess. And that was an interesting one. Definitely another soft on crime type situation. And it definitely lost.
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Okay. It’s amazing. And I’m not quite sure how we got connected. But I’ve really appreciated your updates that you’ve given throughout this legislative session, Mike Rolick, because these are such important issues. And of course, with this onslaught of bills, they really have flooded the zone. Over 700 and some bills and resolutions that were proposed have And the Colorado Union of Taxpayers took positions on a whole bunch of them, and we’d highly recommend that people join us and be members. It’s only $25 a year or $2.08 a month. And so great work. But I’m not quite sure how we got connected. Somebody said – who was that?
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I believe it was Natalie Menton. Oh, great. I believe it was Natalie Menton, yeah. And to that point, you know, the work doesn’t stop. Now we’re looking at certain – um city and county amendments and i’m sure every listener has this going on in their city or county and this kind of goes on all year and one of the things they’re looking at is the psilocybin mushroom laws that were passed in 2022 and 2024 i believe now have to get implemented so they call it natural medicine i wonder if ivermectin will ever be called natural medicine but uh But you digress. Yeah, but the situation there is now they have to do the zoning laws to accommodate for the state law. So I would encourage everybody to get involved in that situation because the cities can regulate the time and the place, i.e. the zoning. They can’t, under state law, completely outlaw it wholesale. But we did see up in Boulder, Boulder decided to put a 500 foot setback between any kind of natural medicine facility, which includes distribution and or growing. So people want to get involved from the agricultural side as well, because there could be a lot of issues with mold spores and what have you. We’ve been trying to look into this different smells. So if you have a very small setback between the residential area and a growing facility, you might want to take a look at that. But Boulder actually said 500 foot setback. They were looking initially at a thousand foot setback. So again, if Boulder can do it, every city can. They can start saying, well, what time can they operate and how far away from residents and schools, hospitals, what have you. So I would really recommend everybody get involved locally.
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So Mike Rawlick, we’re just about out of time, and I need to make a note on this. And I want to unpack this a bit, because this zoning, this is a product that people have real concerns about. And using zoning to control it makes sense. The however, though, is then zoning can get out of control. So let’s try to get something scheduled next week and just talk about zoning. I don’t have the real answer on it, but it seems it’s a spot where freedom and responsibility kind of butt heads, I think. If you’re up for it, I’d love to have the conversation.
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Well, I would like to as well because, you know, when I kind of started this local journey, zoning was – Definitely a mysterious kind of section, but it’s interesting when you even look at someone like Milton Friedman and his discussion of the idea that zoning and even environmental laws were okay under his form of libertarianism, and I’m sure everybody can butt heads on that as well, and I welcome that. But remember, any business that gets put into an area – already will affect the already established residences businesses schools what have you and you’re talking about taxes going up for services you’re talking about roads that get clogged you’re talking about water sewage water things like that so you know when you look at zoning even from say a mushroom psilocybin mushroom farm if there’s effluent that comes off that could go and hurt other people so where is that line of their freedom versus yours because you might already be there
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Right. Okay. I’m up for that discussion, Mike Rolick. We’ll get that scheduled. Thank you for what you’re doing. I think that this watching local government, let’s move into that as well and keep our ear to the ground. Mike Rolick, thank you so much. We’ll talk again very, very soon.
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Thanks, Kim. Have a great day.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And Teresa Irby, who is our partnership liaison, and I will be out at the second annual Marine Memorial Golf Tournament this Thursday, May 15th, at the Ridge at Castle Pines North. We’ll be out there for lunch. And I’m not a golfer. If you’re a golfer, you should certainly sign up. You’ll have a great day of golf, meet some great people. and support the foundation. You can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. They’ve got some great hole-in-one prizes. One of them is an actual, I think it’s a pickup truck from Lynn Lyle. So be sure and check all that out. It’s going to be a great day. And pleased to have on the line with me Dr. Brian Joondepth. And he really looks at so many of these important issues. And I wanted to begin regarding a piece he has at American Thinker. Dr. Joondept, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Kim. How are you?
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I am well. And you recently had this published at American Thinker, Autism and Ignored Medical Crisis. And you said something, you said, what exactly is autism? I ask this because when I was a child, it was so rare that none of us had ever heard of it. And now there’s high percentages of children that are diagnosed with autism. So what gives?
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Well, what gives is a hundredfold increase in two generations. We’ve gone from about 1 in 3,000 to 1 in 300 to 1 in 30 kids in the course of about 40 years. And if we saw that with any other disease, people would be up in arms. What’s going on? Imagine if cancer increased a hundredfold over that period of time or Alzheimer’s or AIDS or anything else that’s popular. But for whatever reason, autism gets a big yawn. When I was a kid, I didn’t know of anybody that had autism. I suppose if it was really severe, they were institutionalized and we never knew about it. But in school, there was nobody on the autism spectrum or labeled as autistic. We just… We kind of knew what it was and we had… you know, pejorative terms that we used as kids, like retard and things like that. But that’s all it was. We didn’t hear about it. It wasn’t newsworthy. Nobody was talking about it. And now it seems most people know a family that has a kid that’s on the spectrum and that needs special education or accommodations or what have you, based on where they fall on the spectrum. So it’s increased so tremendously, and we’re not talking about it. You know, blaming genetics and things that are really red herrings. Genes don’t change. It takes a reproductive cycle for genetics to work. And unless something is altering the genes. And then you look at environmental factors or things that are triggering genes that maybe many of us have genes for autism, but the disease doesn’t become manifest unless triggered. And there seems to be a great reluctance to look at this. So that’s the big problem.
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Now, I’m going to cut to the chase with the question, and that is, what do you think about the narrative that vaccines contribute significantly to autism?
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I’m sure they do. That’s certainly, it warrants further study. There’s reports from the Amish that don’t vaccinate routinely. uh there’s anecdotal reports from large pediatric practices that don’t vaccinate uh routinely and and have few if any kids with autism yeah anecdotes don’t make uh great science but they’re out there and why shouldn’t that be researched the data is there we have public health data uh the vaccine uptake is known by the cdc autism’s known that should be looked at. It’s not that difficult. And not only vaccines, it’s food additives, environmental toxins, pesticides, food additives, colors, dyes, things like that. There are a lot of things that are different than they were 40 years ago. But vaccines are certainly something to be looked at. And it doesn’t mean that’s the be all and end all cause, but it can certainly be contributing, especially when you look at the vaccine schedule of, you know, a couple generations ago, kids had maybe six vaccines, and now it’s 18 vaccines by the age of nine months or something, or 18 months, and then close to 70 vaccines by the time you hit 18. It’s a tremendous number of vaccines, including three COVID vaccines for infants. Who needs three COVID vaccines in the first year? Most adults don’t need that. Especially now, COVID’s over. And children are at zero risk, yet that’s still on the schedule and there’s still people subjecting their kids to this. So all that has to be looked at. And the reluctance of the health authorities, the academics, Big Pharma, They don’t want to look at it. They know it’s not these things, but they don’t know what it is. And that’s disingenuous. How can you know what it’s not, but you have no idea what’s causing it? There just seems to be a big incuriosity.
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So you mentioned the big pharma, the medical community. The younger people that are entering the medical field, I’ve been concerned that the that they’ve not, and actually, I guess, doctors that have been in the field for a while as well, that they’re not as questioning. And we saw this during COVID, that they were just taking what was coming down from the CDC as gospel truth, and were not really questioning. And what’s your thoughts on that?
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Well, it’s survival mode. If you question and if you’re If you’re a physician and you’re employed by an insurance company, hospital system, health system, academic center, et cetera, these institutions are funded by big pharma, research grants, things like that. And if you speak out against the party line, you could have your job threatened. There are people that lost their jobs by speaking out against COVID. I had my medical license threatened for my writings in the early days of COVID. questioning, you know, masks and distancing and lockdowns and some of the other public health measures that were, my questions were all misinformation and conspiracy theory at that time five years ago, and now it’s established that these things were arbitrary and didn’t really work. But those threats existed. And, you know, if you’re working and you have a job, And they tell you you better keep quiet. Well, you’ve got a family to support and the mortgage to pay and student loans to pay off. Guess what? You just bite your tongue and you don’t talk about these things. The few brave souls that did. There’s some very prominent physicians out there that spoke up. They lost their academic appointments and lost their jobs and some lost their medical licenses. Not only here, but in other countries. So there’s a real threat of censorship with consequences. And that stifles scientific thought. And scientific thought’s all about questioning what’s going on. It’s about making observations and forming hypotheses and testing those and thinking about it. Otherwise, we’d still be using leeches, and all women would get a hysterectomy, and all kids would get their tonsils out, and things that were done generations ago routinely never questioned. Now they’re being questioned, and they’re not part of practice. So that’s That’s what good science and medicine is all about, and that’s what was being stifled. The news organizations couldn’t even talk about it because most of the cable news funding is from big pharma.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, do you think things are changing as we are now having this look back at COVID? And I think people are waking up and people have to start with the questioning instead of just taking all of these different things that are just fed to us as truth. We as individuals, I think it has to start there. And I think more people are starting to question things.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think so. We have new heads of the public health agencies, and I think it’s going to take them some time to get their feet under them. But I’m hopeful over the course of the year we’re going to have information. Bobby Kennedy promised the release on autism in September. That’s only a few months away. I hope we get some answers. And there are some people that deliberately knew and suppressed, and there should be a reckoning for them, because that Those are truly crimes against humanity when you know about this stuff and deliberately ignore it or suppress it. Others didn’t know, didn’t question or believe what they were told. And that’s different. And that’s, hey, we made a mistake. We fess up to it. We’re sorry. And we’re going to learn from this because there’s going to be other pandemics. The viruses are ubiquitous and there’s going to be another nasty flu virus in the future. And we don’t want to go through all this again. We ruined economies, ruined people’s lives. People died needlessly and pushing a vaccine that was improperly tested. And we’re seeing the consequences of the papers coming out now when it’s safe to do that, of much more myocarditis in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated that had COVID. We’re seeing the autism. We’re seeing the cancers. We’re seeing lots of side effects, excess mortality after vaccination. So these things all have to be analyzed thoughtfully. You can’t just ignore them because trust in doctors, the medical profession, health authorities is really at an all-time low. And that’s not a good thing. The old saying, trust me, I’m a doctor, it’s like, don’t trust me because I’m a doctor. You have to do your own research. But it’s not a good place for society to be because medicine is a complicated field. It’s rapidly changing lots of knowledge and nuance. And if we don’t trust the physicians, then who do you trust? You can’t go to Google to be your doctor, but that’s what people are often turning to.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, yeah, Dr. Google, I’m not sure that’s the place we want to be either. Dr. Brian June-Depp. So we’re going to continue the discussion with him regarding another piece that he’s written that is at Rasmussen Reports. And all these discussions happen because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values. They are going to have their next On Values presentation, which will be on May 28th. And then also Drew Dix, who is a co-founder and Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during World War, or excuse me, sorry, Drew, during the Vietnam War, started a new podcast, and it’s Words from the Silo. So you can check that out at AmericanValuesCenter.org. That’s AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Dr. Brian Joondepth. And just a question, Dr. Joondepth, you’re a medical doctor. I think you are a specialist regarding eyes, right? But how did you get into all of this political commentary writing?
SPEAKER 06 :
I got a master’s degree in health care leadership from DU about 12 years ago. That was kind of my midlife crisis. Kids were getting educated, leaving the house, and I needed something a little more stimulating than daily work. So I got a master’s degree, and that entailed a lot of writing. And one of my professors told me to condense something I wrote and sent it to the Denver Business Journal. And I did, and they published it. And I’m like, wow, that’s cool. I didn’t think I’d ever get published like that. So I wrote something else and sent it to, I don’t know, World Net Daily or somewhere. They published it, and the hook was set. And then I started writing, and it was just a matter of finding a good fit and good home for my publications. American Thinker and Rasmussen Reports are my two home bases.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I love that. And so let’s talk about this piece that was published on the 6th of May, the new surprising Trump constituency at Rasmussen Reports.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it’s about Hispanic support for Trump. Surprisingly, it’s at 58%, according to recent Rasmussen survey results. Much higher than expected. That’s the highest support group Trump has. 58% for Hispanics, 47% for white voters, and 41% for blacks. So it’s not expected. Democrats have always counted on Hispanic votes, even black votes. But Trump’s support amongst these groups is high, and it’s not surprising. If you look at the economic conditions that affects everybody, illegal immigration, which affects particularly small business owners, lower wage earners, et cetera, they’re feeling that. Hispanic Americans that are here legally, that are working, that have jobs, they don’t like paying taxes for illegal immigration either. They followed the process the legal way and jumped through hoops and waited and spent money, and they’re in America legally like any other immigrant. You have people skipping the line. You’re on a long line at the airport and somebody cuts in front. Nobody likes that. That’s not fair. It’s a surprising group, but it shows Trump has a broad base of support and is really now becoming the candidate, and the Republicans in large part are becoming the party of the working class, which is a diametric shift from a few generations ago where Democrats considered themselves the party of the working class. And the Republicans were, you know, the elite, the country club crowd, the guy in the top hat in Monopoly. You know, that was the Republicans. And no, now it’s the working class, the Democrat base or liberal college-educated women and the coastal elites and Hollywood and academia and Wall Street, the wealthy, the laptop class that I like to call them. It’s… That’s the modern Democrat Party, not the working class. So it’s an interesting reversal.
SPEAKER 10 :
So what do you think? We know, I think, where the Democrat Party is, and it’s really been hijacked by these elites and the like the World Economic Forum, that particular agenda. It’s been hijacked by the extremists. And it’s no longer the party of JFK or Tip O’Neill or your grandpa and your grandma. So this is a real opportunity for us to, I think, reclaim our country with the proper principles, the proper values. But we see a big fight going on in the Republican Party. We can see it at the local level. and the county and the state and the federal level between the maybe I call it the consultant class Republicans who they like to be controlling everything. And the grassroots has said, wait a minute, we want our country back. And so what do you think about this tension that’s going on in the Republican Party right now? And in a way, it’s almost the MAGA versus the non MAGA.
SPEAKER 06 :
Very true. And they all have their purity tests. And the Colorado GOP is a good example. You have those that are considered rhinos and those that are accusing those of being rhinos. And we’re the real Trump base and the others are no, we are. And it’s really silly. It’s a circular firing squad. And if they can’t get together, they’re going to nominate losing candidates. And Colorado at a state level has a long history. Look at the recent gubernatorial nominees. It’s loss after loss after loss. And you look at the legislature and fortunately in this last congressional cycle, we picked up a seat. I moved here 20 years ago, and we had a Republican governor, legislature, two Republican senators, mostly Republican members of Congress, and now it’s all reversed. Democrats have a veto-proof majority in the legislature. The Republicans need to get together and unify and look at where they agree and where they disagree, agree to disagree. But the goal is winning. If you can’t win seats. You’re not going to implement your agenda. So talking about high-minded principles and this and that, that only wins in the faculty lounge. It doesn’t win in real life. And if you can’t get good candidates elected and have them do what they’re elected to do, none of it matters. It’s all talk and a bunch of bloviating. Interestingly, the Democrats are going to go through the same thing. They have the more moderate Democrats, the few that remain, and then the far left, the Bernie Sanders AOC wing of the party. And they’re fighting their own civil war of who’s going to control the direction of the Democrat Party. But Republicans need to come together. Trump has been a good unifier, despite the fact that he’s called divisive and mean and name-calling and all of this. He’s unified some pretty disparate groups. that have come together, a lot of blacks and Hispanics and working class. It’s unusual, and the Republicans have not succeeded in that before. They’ve not been able to do that, and I hope they continue to take advantage.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and the important thing is to get the word out. And you said in your piece here that Media Research Center found that 92% of Trump’s coverage during his first 100 days was negative. And so what that’s doing is it’s fomenting, I think, confusion for everyday people out there. And and that’s I think this is going to be the real challenge from now until the election in 2026, because they’re trying to foment this confusion in people’s minds and hoping that they that in 26 that they the extremists can take the either the Senate or the House. And if they do, then everything stops. All of these things of trying to reclaim our country stops. And I think it’ll go back to. the swamp and headed toward the disaster that we were headed. So this is really an important, crucial time in our country, Dr. Brian June-Depth.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s very important, and Congress needs to do its job. They’ve passed no major legislation since Trump’s been in the White House. They need to be codifying his executive orders. Executive orders are transient. In four years, if a Democrat’s in charge, everything Trump did is reversed. And that’s That type of chaos is no way to run the country. Businesses make long-term decisions based on these things, and they can’t be changing every four years. That’s impossible. But, yeah, Republicans need to step up, and they’re not. And that’s the unfortunate part. Maybe things are going on behind the scenes, but thus far I’ve seen little out of the Republican-controlled Congress.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, and so we really need, as we the people, to demand that Congress does their job. Dr. Brian June Depp, thank you. I’m so glad that you added in all of this writing to your career here because these are really important pieces and you’re a very important voice. So thank you, and we’ll talk again next month.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, sounds good. Thanks, Kim.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And a great first hour that we’ll rebroadcast today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. The second hour we’ll rebroadcast tonight, 10 to 11, and that is on all KLZ 560 platforms. That’s KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app, and Alexa, play KLZ. And you can email me. at kim at kimmunson.com and also love to hear from you on the text line which is 720-605-0647 and thank you to all of you who support us we are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something’s a good idea you should not have to force people to do it And our word of the day is obsequious. And I found this as I was looking for quotes for the show, an Alexander Hamilton quote, and I thought, oh, I need to use that word. So obsequious is O-B-S-E-Q-U-I-O-U-S. could be marked by or exhibiting a fawning attentiveness. And we all know people when we may be talking with them and they are obsequious as they seem like they are paying attention to us. And so your challenge is to use the word obsequious in a sentence today. Our quote of the day comes from Dwight D. Eisenhower. Producer Steve had sent this over, and he’s in retirement, as we all know. But Eisenhower was born in 1890. He died in 1969. He was the 34th President of the United States, and then he also was the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe during World War II. And he said this, he said, if a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it’s not a political party. It is merely a conspiracy to seize power. So this talk of reaching across the aisle, we can reach across the aisle and If we have this commonality underneath for a cause that is right and that is moral. So I’ll give you an example. This extremist transgender movement, that is not based on what is right. Because either surgically or pharmaceutically, sterilizing our children, cutting off their body parts is not right, it is not moral. And so there’s not gonna be any point where we can come to a resolution on that because the underlying premise is not right and it is not moral. An example would be Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson. They didn’t like each other very much, at least for part of their careers. But yet I think that they had this underlying goal of individual liberty, and liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. So when that’s the case, what can happen? And you see this with our founding fathers. They didn’t agree on everything, but what can happen is we come up with this Declaration of Independence that we’re all created equal. And I will extrapolate that out right now to what we talked about in the first hour regarding the millionaire tax. If we’re all created equal, then we should be treated impartially by the law and through taxation. So that’s the initial premise right there in the Declaration of Independence with these rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. So that means we should not be overregulated, overtaxed, all of these things that government is doing on the local, county, state, and federal level. And so we can go to those foundational principles and then how they came up with the Constitution to protect those particular principles is how we got to America. But there are those that are using different issues to undercut this complete American idea. And that’s why we do the show is to help you, me, get our brains around these issues, know what’s going on. And at that point, I would really recommend that you join us, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. all volunteer group that’s been watching legislation since 1976 and we’re going to have our board meeting tonight but i want to say thank you these people have given up much of their weekends over this legislative session to come up with the um the positions that we’ve taken on uh i can’t even quite remember how many 200 plus uh pieces of legislation to help you get your brain around these issues. So join us. It’s $25 a year, only $2.08 a month. But when you see these folks out there, say thank you to them. That’s Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen. Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Cori Onasorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And join us at coloradotaxpayer.org is the website. And so we are doing what we can to reclaim our communities and our state and our country, and I’m excited about what’s going on. But I get to work with a lot of amazing people. I love the fact that they all strive for excellence. And I’m talking with Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team, great sponsors of the show. And Roger, as we as consumers, life is busy. But here in Colorado, I think we take insurance coverage for granted sometimes until we need it. But hail. whether or not it’s on our cars or on our homes, is something that I think is kind of in the back of consumers’ minds. What should people know about hail here in Colorado? Because we can get some pretty significant storms.
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And with great frequency. Colorado is on the bullseye, on the target for most insurance companies. That’s their biggest concern. So what is happening in the industry generally speaking is all insurance companies are modifying their coverage by, at renewal time, taking people to 2%. deductible on a hail loss, winter hail. So 2% of your coverage, if you have a million dollar home, that’s a $20,000 deductible. And you can do the math on your own. So, you know, a $500,000, when I say home, I’m talking about how much insurance there is on coverage A, which is the dwelling area. So you want to certainly talk to your insurance agent, find out what those renewal options are going to be, because I’m seeing all insurance companies treating deductible, it’s the only way they can protect their reserves by passing some of the risk for major losses, catastrophic losses, onto the consumer. So there’s not much you can do about it except look around to see if other insurance companies are offering different deductibles. But I guarantee you that what I see is the strong insurance companies with reserves are that allow them to pay claims have to protect those reserves. So that’s pretty much what’s going on in the industry. There is something you should also, and we’ve talked about it before on this show, there’s a partial roof endorsement that you can put on your homeowner’s policy. You have to do it before renewal. You cannot do it after your renewal. So essentially, if you have a hailstorm and it’s a $30,000 roof per the roofer’s estimate, but only $15,000 of that is direct damage, the other $15,000 is cosmetic damage on maybe the other side of the roof, the north or south side, depending on where the storm came from, the insurance company will only pay for that which is damaged. So to get that totally new roof, there’s a partial roof endorsement that you can purchase before renewal date. And on an average homeowner’s premium, which is somewhere between $2,000 and $3,000 a year now, It’s only $160 to $180 extra per year to have that partial roof endorsement put on. I would really look into that because no one wants half a roof.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. I’m very pleased to have on the line with me Steve Gorham as our featured guest in this particular hour. He is the executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and author of four books on energy, climate change, and sustainable development with over 100,000 copies in print. His latest book is Green Breakdown, the Coming Renewable Energy Failure. He also was one of our featured guests on the podcast series, Climate Conversation, which complements our documentary, A Climate Conversation, which you can watch that, catch the documentary at aclimateconversation.com. It doesn’t cost you anything, so be sure and check that out. Steve Gorham, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Kim, great to join you again.
SPEAKER 10 :
Great to have you as well. And we really appreciated the in-depth conversation with you for the podcast with Climate Conversation. But your latest book is Green Breakdown, the Coming Renewable Energy Failure. And you had been discussing these blackouts in Spain and Portugal. Is that related?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it is. It’s actually an additional factor. In the book Green Breakdown, I talk about Three big issues with wind and solar. First is they require about 100 times the land area to produce the same power as our traditional power plants. Second, they tend to be more expensive. And third, they’re intermittent. But we have a new thing that’s rising up now, and it just happened in Spain and Portugal. This was about two weeks ago. We had 60 million people that lost power for more than a day. And it was just terrible sorts of things. We had all these electric trains. 35,000 people were on electric trains, and those stopped, and some were in tunnels and some were in the mountains. They had people who couldn’t get on the Internet, and they didn’t have any money, so they had long lines at cash stations, which had reserve power, a lot of things. And some people were saying, this is what the end of the world is going to look like. Kind of a sad thing. But the big problem that is happening is, is that wind and solar are not synchronous systems. If you have coal gas or hydropower, you’re spinning a big turbine. And if you have a system that’s interrupted for some reason, the turbines continue to spin and continue to put out power. But that’s not the case with wind and solar. If they go down, things can crash instantaneously. And power systems have to be balanced. You have to balance the demand that businesses and homes need for electrical power with the power that’s generated in a very short period of time, fractions of seconds. And you have to keep the alternating current cycles the same, 50 hertz in the case of Europe, 60 hertz in the same of U.S. If those change a little bit, then everything starts shutting down. And this thing in Spain crashed within a few seconds. It was just a remarkable thing. So As you put more and more wind and solar on your systems, you end up with stability problems. And so we’re going to see more and more of these blackouts, I’m afraid, as some of these countries push towards trying to go 100% wind and solar.
SPEAKER 10 :
So Steve Gorham, why on earth are the, I’m going to put this in air quotes, leaders continuing to push for this intermittent power source when it’s making people’s lives very difficult?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, they’re all afraid of, they all have a fear of a human caused climate change, which has captured just about all the leaders of the world. Over the last 30 years, it’s been growing. I call it climatism. It’s an ideology. The idea that humans are causing dangerous global warming and that we have to switch to wind, solar, and biofuels and get rid of coal oil and natural gas. And fear is a powerful motivator. And so we have many, many countries that are pushing this and many states. And, you know, the bottom line is Spain and Portugal really can’t have any effect on global temperatures. They’re much too small. And even if you look at the whole thing, you find that climate is dominated by nature, not man-made emissions. So it’s the biggest superstition in modern history. And unfortunately, we have the people in Europe that are paying for it now. By the way, in the U.S., we have power outages increasing as well. According to the U.S. Department of Energy, they track power outages per user. And the average user about 10 years ago was seeing a cumulative outage in a year of about three and a half hours. The power would be off. But in the last three years, that’s been running five, six, and seven hours. It’s more than doubled. And so as some of our states are putting in a lot of these intermittent systems, we’re going to see more and more problems with outages.
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And I think that people – well, let’s go back to Spain and Portugal. So I am somebody that maybe I’m visiting. Maybe I’m a tourist in Spain or Portugal. What did that day look like? How long was I – and what if I was stuck in a train in a tunnel? How long was I there? How long was the outage? How did they mitigate this? What happened?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think it was about 12 hours and some places up to 18 hours. And they went – they have to try and restart all these systems and balance them as well. So they restart a few things and they bring on they bring on everybody shut down. They bring on certain areas at a time and try and keep balancing it as it as it as it came up. But I think they had to send people they had to send trucks and other things that might have been running on gasoline out to try and pick up people in these remote areas from the trains. They also had people sleeping in subways and all kinds of just just a crazy disruption of society. because of this power outage.
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I ended up 24 hours in LaGuardia Airport because of storms. And it was uncomfortable. It was interesting, though, how many people came together, but you saw all these different personalities. And most everybody tried to get along and help each other. But it was a different experience for me to be stranded for 24 hours. Just the real loss of freedom.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it is that. And we’ve actually had the worst blackout in this country. I think we’ve talked about it in the past. February of 2021 in Texas, they had a power outage for three days, 72 hours, four and a half million people were without electrical power because they really underestimated the demand of the system in the winter. And they had more than 200 people die because of that outage. And that’s bigger than any hurricane in history except one. So These things can be really terrible, not just inconveniences. And I think our grid operators are starting to realize maybe this isn’t the best way to go and they need to get back to more sensible power systems.
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Well, Colorado, though, seems to be out of our minds still regarding this whole climatism. In fact, with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is an all-volunteer group, I’m the president of the group, we’ve been watching all of this legislation. And there was a bill, and I think it passed, I’ll have to check it, but that was basically, I think, it was for students that they could get credits, I think, or something along the line for climate literacy education. And I thought, here we are going to be using public policy and public dollars to indoctrinate our kids on this climatism, and again, using our resources to do so.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think so. The state of Illinois is now passing rules about teaching climate in schools. And I think it was the University of San Diego or California at San Diego that now requires a climate course for all students to graduate. So You know, these things are just crazy. Matter of fact, I’m happy to debate any of these professors on this issue because the evidence really doesn’t support that climate is abnormal in any way. It’s been warmer in the past. We’ve had many times in the last 10,000 years when we had multi-century long periods of temperatures that were warmer than today, despite what you hear in the press and what the United Nations says. So we have just a lot of misconception But it is driving large parts of society. And the great news is Mr. Trump is rolling all this back at federal levels right now. It’s really a big, big change in many ways. So this may be the year when we start turning around and getting back to a sensible energy policy.
SPEAKER 10 :
So that segues into a couple of headlines. The first one, and this is from, I think, MSN, and apparently Bernie Sanders was on an anti-Trump tour, and he used a private jet to do so. And I guess the CNN anchor, Abby Phillip, kind of roasted him on that, which she should. So what’s your comments on that, Steve Gorham?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, that’s the thing. You know, we’ve had many, many examples in the past of of our political leaders that favor measures to try and, quote, fight climate change, but they all do all sorts of things, like take private jets. We had Arnold Schwarzenegger that was living in South California, and every day he’d take a jet up to Sacramento to go to the government up there, and then he’d fly down. We’ve had John Kerry has been using private jets and says he can use them, Al Gore. People have tremendous… tremendous size houses. Bill Gates has a 27-room house. And a lot of these people also have bought properties next to the oceans. Mr. Obama and others have properties on the seashore. And so there’s an awful lot of hypocrisy with all of this. And again, with oceans, there’s really no reason to fear. Oceans are rising, but they’re rising about seven or eight inches per century. It’s not very much. So, yeah, we see this all the time in the press. And it’s sort of like, well, climate for you, but not for me.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. If they were really concerned.
SPEAKER 07 :
As Bernie Sanders has said. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
If they were really concerned, Steve Dorham, they would be doing everything they could to limit climate. Their contribution to, and I have this in air quotes, climate change. But what I’ve learned is that the green and the Green New Deal is really the green that is going into, I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties’ pockets. So they have created this whole industry. And then they’ve used public policy to extract green from everyday people. And it’s done in a variety of different ways, certainly by taxes and then subsidizing wind, solar, all these government grants to all these different organizations, which this just hit the news out here in Colorado. And this is from Fox 31, that 114 people were fired from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory as federal cuts impact Colorado. And this was just posted just the other day. I know this is more Colorado-centric. Any comments on that, Steve, before we go to break?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, actually, it’s nationwide. And this is coming from Mr. Trump. He is slashing budgets. At NOAA, at the EPA, at the Federal Energy Management Agency, FEMA, and NASA, anything to do with climate is being cut. And you aren’t getting a lot of headlines, but that affects places in Colorado and Illinois and all over the country. But he is in, you know, this is black and white, night and day, up and down. This is a A vast change from previous Biden administration policy and even the Trump policies in his first term. Just a tremendous effort to get rid of anything having to do with man-made climate change and get, for example, get NASA back to space exploration and out of the climate business. That’s very, very refreshing. But yeah, these cuts in Colorado are coming because of what Trump and his ministers are doing in the U.S. government.
SPEAKER 10 :
So when we come back from break, I want to talk a little bit more about that. And then also regarding what Trump is doing, and I think it’s all connected, defunding the climate models. We’re talking with Steve Gorham. He is the executive director of the Climate Science Coalition and has written four books on this important subject. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And so pleased to have the Second Syndicate as a sponsor of The Kim Munson Show.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. We are an independent voice on an independent station, and it’s because of all of your support and our great sponsors. And also, as you know, I really support the Center for American Values in Pueblo. It’s located on the beautiful Riverwalk, co-founded by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War, and Brad Padula, who is an Emmy Award-winning actor. documentary maker. And their website is AmericanValueCenter.org. Their next On Values presentation will be on May 28th. So check that out. And then Drew has a new podcast as well that you would want to check out. And that is Words from the Silo. And that is at AmericanValueCenter.org as well. I’m talking with Steve Gorham. Executive Director of the Climate Science Coalition of Colorado and author of four books on energy, climate change and sustainable development. And his latest book is Green Breakdown, the Coming Renewable Energy Failure. We’re talking about the blackouts in Spain and Portugal and then had brought that over to a headline. that right here in Colorado, 114 people lost their jobs at the National Renewable Energy Lab. And on the macro level, you said this is occurring throughout America. Trump is defunding much of this throughout America. And I love that on the macro level. On the micro level… I’m sad if people lose their jobs and they have house payments and families. What do you say to that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that is a tough problem. There’s no doubt about that. And we have many researchers. For example, right now, the plans for fiscal year 2026 would cut NASA, the National Aviation and National Aeronautic and Science Administration in half, cut that budget in half. And I think Mr. Trump and the people there are going to say NASA should be working on space and not climate. NOAA is getting a cut of 27% in their budget. At least these are projected. They still have to be passed by Congress. But NOAA and NASA fund many of these things in the various states. And it’s very, very tough when someone loses their job. You know, it’s really a tough impact. But, you know, for years we have been pursuing this climate thing, for example. And NOAA and NASA are running the climate models, which are the heart of global warming alarmism. They’ve been doing that for many, many years. And now it’s not clear that they’re going to be able to have money to keep running those climate models. So it’s It’s really a big impact, and for certain scientists, but as I’ve said in Green Breakdown, though, I really think that we have hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people that are doing climate stuff that really has no ultimate value for society. We should be doing other productive sorts of things, and so it’s, you know, this is cold turkey kind of stuff that Mr. Trump is doing. It’s a tough situation, and by the way, it’s not only himself, it’s his his new head of these agencies that are doing these things. So it’s very, very tough for people. But, you know, if they’re sharp people, hopefully they can land on their feet with something better and make a real contribution to society.
SPEAKER 10 :
Excellent point. So two things. This came in from Jenny on the text line. She said in 2015 in REL, the National Renewable Energy Lab, had around 600 employees. They now have 3,700. So a 114 cut is not enough. I had no idea that that’s pretty explosive. Well, you’re right. And they need to be doing things that are productive for society. And this climate model, let’s talk about that on him changing and defunding those.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, that’s – and by the way, this is not only in climate, but back about 2000, the turn of the century – Federal spending and government spending combined was about 18% of the U.S. economy. Now it’s running over 30% of the U.S. economy. It’s just gotten blown all out of proportion, and that’s what the Doge effort is doing. That’s what Mr. Trump is doing with a lot of these climate things. So we need to reduce the size of federal government in some of the states, and we need to get back to private industry and personal choice and all those other sorts of things. But yeah, the climate models have been the core of climate alarmism. Dr. James Hansen of NASA testified back in 1988 that he thought that, and this was a congressional hearing, he thought that the climate was warming and humans, he was 99% certain, he said, climate was warming, humans were the cause of it. And then about three years later, we had the Rio de Janeiro Earth Summit, and we had more than 40 nations sign up to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. They’ve been arguing for the last 30 years or 35 years on when and how much to reduce these. But the climate models and computers themselves have projected much higher temperatures than they actually have had. And the real evidence shows that nature, not human emissions, dominates climate. So I think these models ought to go away, and we ought to get back to NASA doing space exploration and NOAA doing weather forecasting. and get out of the climate business.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and it really has affected, I think, the prosperity of everyday people. You just think about with this whole alarmism that we’ve had and then trying to shut down the oil and natural gas and coal industries, that it’s increased the cost of energy. to move products, to create our businesses, to be able to travel around. What do you think the ultimate goal is with this climatism and this alarmism? Is it money? Is it power? Is it both? Ideology? It’s probably a combination, yes?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think so. I think the people that fear man-made warming are sincere. Al Gore has been an environmentalist since the 1970s. But the evidence doesn’t support their position that the climate is in crisis, that sort of thing. But we have many, many groups that use the fear of man-made warming to pursue all sorts of different objectives. The United Nations has wanted to be an environmental leader, and they’ve been doing that on the back of climatism for a while. They’ve wanted a one-world government. Jacques Chirac, president of France, said that the first climate meetings were – an example of one world government and they’ve wanted to redistribute wealth from the united states and europe and and other wealthy nations to the developing nations and there are huge amounts of wealth transfers that they’re pushing uh in the name of man-made climate change and then we have wind solar and biofuel industries we have all sorts of things the other thing is as our freedoms are being taken away uh we have uh 22 states now that are trying to ban gasoline cars by the year 2035 or another year and saying everybody has to drive electric. We have a number of states that are trying to stop you from using natural gas and propane in your home for your cooking or heating or water heating. They want everybody to go to a heat pump and they want to force people to do that. So there’s an awful lot of loss of freedom tied into all of this as well. But I think people are pushing back now. And with the Trump government in place, things are rolling back very, very quickly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and it’s very important that he acts quickly on this because the 2026 elections are just right around the corner. And if, in fact, the extremists that have taken over the Democrat Party either win the House or the Senate, then all this comes to a screeching halt. And I think what’s happening, and I’m using a line from one of the guests from last week, is with all of the press out there and people protesting Trump, they’re trying to put sand in the gears to create confusion in everyday people’s minds about what’s going on and try to get to the 2026 elections where they hope to take either the House or Senate or both.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think so. A lot of the politics is here, and he certainly needs Congress. He’s done a lot of things with executive action, like cutting funding from the Inflation Reduction Act that Mr. Biden put into place, more than $100 billion a year being transferred to renewables. But if he doesn’t get Congress to back that up, then a lot of that is going to be restored. So there’s a lot of big political issues. But we have so many trends going on right now that are going against renewables, and we could talk about a lot of those. But The artificial intelligence thing driving the demand for electricity. I think we’ve mentioned before we have all these big companies now that are building data centers. And you can’t supply those with wind and solar. There’s just not enough power. So there’s a lot of people going back to gas. We even have a thing called BYOP, bring your own power. We now have people like Microsoft that are setting up their own gas-fired power plants to run data centers. really something we’ve never seen. So there are a lot of trends that are pushing back against climatism and this push for a renewable transition.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and that’s why the work that you’re doing is so important. And these books that you’ve written are also really important. I’m looking at them right now. The Mad, Mad, Mad World of Climatism, Mankind and Climate Change Mania. Then Outside the Green Box, Rethinking Sustainable Development. Green Breakdown, The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. And so you’re optimistic about what we’re looking at here in the future, Steve Gorham?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think there are many, many reasons for optimism. Even if you look at some things like deforestation, that is declining decade after decade. We’re going to have forest growth probably within a couple decades globally. Farmers are using less land. We’re seeing, as I talk about in my books as well, global pasture and farmland actually started declining for the first time in the year 2000. Farmers are so productive that we’re growing all of this. They’re growing so much, they don’t need to put so much land into place. And then the energy transition is going to fail as well. People are going to get back to sensible energy policy. It’s going to take a long, long time, though, because of the power of the fear of man-made warming. But I am optimistic over the long run here. People should vote for good energy policy and not climate policy. That’s not a good idea.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and one last thought. We were talking about the 114 people that lost their jobs out at the National Renewable Energy Lab, realizing that with the explosive growth and that the employees there, that’s and again, that’s all part of this whole climatism. But when Joe Biden took office and on day one. canceled the Keystone Pipeline, all of those energy workers lost their jobs. And we didn’t have any of these extremists out there that were protesting that particular decision. And I think that’s an important point to make.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it is. And we’re the biggest producer of natural gas in the world, the biggest producer of oil, the biggest exporter of both of those Mr. Trump is playing into our strengths and away from this idea that we ought to be importing all these solar cells from China and batteries from China. And let’s play to our strengths. Let’s supply the world with low-cost energy. And that’s what they’re set out to do. But anyway, people should get my book, Green Breakdown. It has, in addition to the science and economics, has a lot of great color sidebars. These are real titles. Here’s one from… From Britain. Britain’s advice to stop showering to conserve energy. There was even a minister in Switzerland that suggested we should all shower with a friend to conserve energy, which is entertaining. Not something I want to do. All kinds of crazy things going on here with climatism. And by the way, that book, The Mad, Mad, Mad World of Climatism, has a couple polar bears and a mouse down the front.
SPEAKER 09 :
I love it.
SPEAKER 07 :
If you have kids in high school and they’re getting a very one-sided point of view on the climate, they ought to read that and find out what some of the real evidence shows.
SPEAKER 10 :
Excellent books. Steve Gorham, thank you so much, and we’ll talk again very soon.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Kim.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you’re there. And you’ll get first look of our upcoming guests and our most recent essays. Thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. We are an independent voice. on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the line with me is my dear friend, Paula Sarles. She is the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation. She is a Marine veteran and a Gold Star wife, and she’s been working diligently on this golf tournament that’s going to be this Thursday. Paula Sarles, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. It’s good to be with you. It’s good to have you as well, and I’m very excited. I’m not a golfer, so Teresa and I are going to come out for lunch, which if people would like to do that, they can also support the Memorial Foundation that way. But you’re getting close. I think the weather’s supposed to be good, yes? Yes.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, it’s supposed to be really nice until late in the day on Thursday, so we’re good.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
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And everything is all in place, so we have maybe three or four more spots to fill. And we’re just real happy with how things are going. It just looks like a great day.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, this is one of the first tournaments out of the box, which I think is great. It’s at the ridge at Castle Pines North. So my understanding is it’s a beautiful course to be able to play. So this is a great opportunity to do so.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, it is. Just spectacular views all the way through. If you just want to take a walk through the golf course, you’ll just really enjoy it. It’s gorgeous. And we’ve had a good time. Last year was just a blast.
SPEAKER 10 :
And that was the first year, so this is the second. And lunchtime, what would you anticipate around? What time will lunch be served?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, we’re thinking between 1230 and 1. It depends on the golfers, of course. Yeah. I’m telling the lunchers to get there at 1230. And we have our two 100-year-old Iwo Jima friends have told me that they plan to be there, Al Jennings and Jim Blaine. So that’s a real treat. And if you get there a little early, you can talk to them. They’re going to be there at 1230. And they’re just a delight to be with. I had dinner with Jim Saturday night, and he was just He’s so sharp for being 100 years old. He’s 100 and a half.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and Jim Blaine is a very sharp dresser. Did you ever notice that about him, Paula Sarles?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, he’s always dressed very nicely.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I don’t know that people really understand how special it is to rub shoulders with these World War II veterans. And when I went to Normandy in 2016 with four of the D-Day World War II veterans, it changed my life. And so this is a very rare opportunity, and people can do that. Again, if you’re not a golfer, just buy the lunch ticket and come out, and you’ll have the opportunity to meet both Jim Blaine and Al Jennings.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, yes. Okay, great.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, Paula, I so appreciate all of your work that you do because we’re getting close to Memorial Day, and it is important that we stop, that we remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And when we do so, it creates gratitude in our lives, and then that, I think, gives us courage to step forward and engage in this battle of ideas that’s raging in our country at this time, Paula.
SPEAKER 18 :
Exactly, and… We have a great ceremony at the memorial, and this year we’re really pleased to have one of the survivors of the USS Pueblo capture coming to speak, Bob Chica. So that’ll be a great event for people to come out to.
SPEAKER 10 :
And Father’s Day is right around the corner, and I would highly recommend that people buy a brick to honor their loved one’s military service. It is a lovely gift, and how can people do that?
SPEAKER 18 :
They just go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org, and there’s a box that says buy a brick. and that’s our one of our donation campaigns and you choose which walkway you want to have it on the walk of service is dedicated to all branches of the military so any branch can buy a brick there and we’ll get your certificates to you you get a nice certificate when you donate a brick And that’s a great gift to give to dad on Father’s Day or to an uncle or whoever you are.
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Grandfather, it’s a beautiful gift. And again, that is at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Paula Sarles, I so thank you for all the work that you and your team do. And I look forward to seeing you on Thursday out at the USMC Memorial Foundation Golf Tournament. Okay, me too. Take care. And I’m blessed to work with amazing people and to support these two great nonprofits as well, and that is the USMC Memorial Foundation and the Center for American Values. And I mentioned this, but Eric really nailed it on the text line. He said, when you say the people that lost their jobs, remember Joe Biden, without any remorse, shut down the 11,000 jobs on the XL Keystone Pipeline. And the Democrats had no sympathy at all for those families. And here, these were people that were trying to… To build to support a reliable efficient affordable and abundant energy source where as we’ve been talking with Steve Gorham and as our featured guest this hour that wind and solar takes 100 times the land To create the same amount of energy the energy from wind and solar is more expensive and it is intermittent and And we certainly support all energy sources, but they need to stand the test of economics. And so this is – and then as Jenny had texted the explosion, I had no idea of the number of employees out at the National Renewable Energy Lab. And so stay tuned on all of that. This came in from Mark. He said, Americans have been providing – free research to the world and that we should talk more about that. And he says, taxpayers funded all of the renewable energy research and then gave it away free to China to build the solar and windmills, which then they sold back to us. This doesn’t seem like this is a very smart way to handle things. And of course, if they really were serious, if this really was a real problem we would not be seeing bernie sanders jetting around on private jets we would not see the obamas buying a house right next to an ocean if the oceans were going to rise so much that our coastlines were going to disappear we would not have al gore Having multiple houses with multiple light bulbs and, again, jetting around the world to talk about this because he thinks he’s special. I think he needs to be flying around on an electric jet. Let’s see how that goes. The size of battery that you would need for a jet. would be so heavy that you couldn’t get off the ground. And so we need to be speaking truth into these issues. That’s why I recommend let’s have conversations. And a great place to start is by going to climateconversation.com and watching our documentary. And we’ve got a great array of podcasts there as well. That is the project. I have Walt Johnson and he’s done a great job on that. And that does broadcast on a pretty regular basis as well on Newsmax. So check out a climate conversation dot com. That is a climate conversation dot com. And again, the show comes to you six to eight a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour rebroadcast one to two in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And that is on all KLZ platforms. You can check all that out. at KLZ and also my website. Our quote for the end of the show is from Dwight D. Eisenhower, and he said this, for every obstacle, there is a solution. Persistence is the key. The greatest mistake is giving up. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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