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In this episode of The Kim Monson Show, Kim dives into the complexities of recent legislative measures, particularly in the context of freedom versus force. Joined by guest host Alan Thomas, they explore the implications of the ‘tyranny of pronouns’ and its historical parallels with authoritarian regimes. Kim emphasizes the importance of understanding and debating these issues, encouraging listeners to cultivate informed opinions and engage in open dialogue.
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I don’t think that we should be passing legislation that is so complicated that people kind of throw up their hands and say, I can’t understand that.
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And it’s not fair just because you’re a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn’t.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Friday, Producer Joe. And hand. Well, I couldn’t hear you. Too many buttons there, but I know you’re there, Joe. And in studio with me is Alan Thomas. And Alan, first of all, thank you. You are a guest host of the show on a regular basis. Thank you for covering for me on Tuesday. Really appreciate it.
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Of course. It was a lot of fun. And then I got the Facebook alert afterwards and totally forgot to wish you a happy birthday.
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Yes, it was my birthday. And it’s so good to be 29 again.
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Absolutely. It’s always great. I wish I could be 29 again.
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Yeah, don’t we all. My birthday is right around Memorial Day, and I always just love that. So thank you for those good wishes. Check out my website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And while you’re there, sign up for the weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. You will get first look at our upcoming essays as well as our most recent, or our upcoming guests and our most recent essays. We’ll be rolling out your essay, which is talking about this tyranny of pronouns that’s happening here in Colorado. It’s unbelievable.
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Yeah, it’s difficult to rectify how throughout history, compelled speech has always been co-mingled with very scary dictatorships and the fact that we’re starting to walk down that now as a country and more specifically as a state as well, it just makes you wonder whether they’re even reading history or not and whether they realize the dictators and the monarchs and the authoritarians that they’re starting to align themselves with.
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And I really think Colorado’s at the tip of the spear of so much that’s going on. So we’ll delve into that in the third and fourth segment, and we’ll roll that out this weekend. So that’s why it’s great to be signed up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. Text line is 720-605-0647. Appreciate all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station. as we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And that’s on all KLZ platforms, which are KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app, and Alexa Play KLZ. And our word of the day is nascent. And it’s spelled N-A-S-C-E-N-T. And it could be coming or having recently come into existence. So an example would be a nascent middle class or her nascent singing career. And so again, that’s N-A-S-C-E-N-T. Your challenge is to use nascent in a sentence today. Hopefully you’ll impress your friends and family on that. Since it is a Friday, our quote, we take that from the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And the center is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And they do a variety of things honoring our Medal of Honor recipients, this great book, educational programs. that focus on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. The center is non-political, non-partisan. It’s just focused on these great American values. And so our quote is from General James H. E. Livingston, United States Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipient, born in 1940, actions taken May 2, 1968. And I’ve had the great honor of interviewing General Livingston for our America’s Veterans Story Show. But let’s go ahead and go through what he did on May 2 in 1968. And so, Alan, do you want to start this?
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absolutely and it looks like when this happened he was captain livingston so yes for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as commanding officer company e in action against enemy forces company e launched a determined assault on the heavily fortified village of dowdo which had been seized by the enemy on the preceding evening isolating a Marine company from the remainder of the battalion. Skillfully employing screening agents, Captain Livingston maneuvered his men to assault positions across 500 meters of dangerous open rice paddy while under intense enemy fire. Ignoring hostile rounds impacting near him, he fearlessly led his men in a savage assault against enemy emplacements within the village. While adjusting supporting arms fire, Captain Livingston moved to the points of heaviest resistance, shouting words of encouragement to his Marines, directing their fire, and spurring the dwindling momentum of the attack on repeated occasions. Although twice painfully wounded by grenade fragments, he refused medical treatment and courageously led his men in the destruction of over 100 mutually supporting bunkers, driving the remaining enemy from their positions and relieving the pressure on the stranded Marine company.
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As the two companies consolidated positions and evacuated casualties, a third company passed through the friendly lines, launching an assault on the adjacent village of Dentu, only to be halted by a furious counterattack by an enemy battalion. Swiftly assessing the situation and disregarding the heavy volume of enemy fire, Captain Livingston boldly maneuvered the remaining effective men in his company forward, joined forces with the heavily engaged Marines, and halted the enemy’s counterattack. wounded a third time and unable to walk. He steadfastly remained in the dangerously exposed area, deploying his men to more tenable positions and supervising the evacuation of casualties. Only when assured of the safety of his men did he allow himself to be evacuated. Captain Livingston’s gallant actions uphold the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the U.S. Naval Service.” Pretty amazing. Alan, and this is what General Livingston said. He said, there is no greater honor than the opportunity to serve and help preserve our freedom. It’s the essence of humanity. And we are engaged, Alan, in this great battle of ideas now. And again, Colorado, I think, is at the tip of the spear on this.
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Absolutely. And unfortunately, we’ve been making national headlines for all the wrong reasons.
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Yes, we have. And in fact, on Monday, I will have Representative Brandy Bradley on. She did a video to really talk about this House Bill 1312. The 1312, this is the big transgender bill, and this is really what you’re referencing regarding pronouns as well. It’s become law that it’s discriminatory to not address somebody by their preferred pronouns, which in a way is forcing you to affirm someone else’s… Ideation. Yeah, whatever that is.
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I mean, it’s a charade, right? And the hilarious part of it is even from the original bill to the final bill that was passed, they got rid of some parts where it’s like, you know, the government was supposed to change their forms to say, hey, we have to acknowledge this person’s change of name and idea of what they are. And then they got rid of that part of it and said, no, OK, government just has to work with your legal name. But the rest of you citizens don’t have to worry about that.
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And Alan, whenever I’m putting somebody as a new contact into my phone, do you notice that there they have a spot, at least on iPhones, for a preferred pronoun? Yes. So we have all of this business, and it’s just a continual barrage on us. And you and I will look at that and say, well, I’m not going to partake in that. But think about younger people. It’s just this constant reinforcement, as you say, of the charade.
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Well, and it was also the bills. I know we talk a lot about 1312, but wasn’t 1309? There was a bunch of bills all around the same time that came out that all reinforced this ideology and really forced you to accept it as a citizen. And even people who believe in it should be fearful that the government can force you to accept an ideology based on The tyranny of a majority. And that’s not how our country was built. That’s not what freedom looks like. And the difficult part about all of it is they’re couching it under, as always, hey, common courtesy or just be nice. Well, you shouldn’t force people to be nice because that’s not actual civility. If you want to be nice, it should come from an inner embracing of that kindness, not from somebody forcing you to do it.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter there at KimMonson.com. And thank you to all of you who support us. In studio with me is my friend Alan Thomas. And we’ll get to your essay that we’re going to roll out. this weekend in segments three and four but on studio or excuse me online with the line with me is jason bailey and he is with citizens for no new debt and welcome jason bailey hello kim thank you so much i’m so glad to be here and uh you know i would love to talk with you about government debt pertaining to the city of denver or
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the city of Denver’s airport, whatever you want to talk about, please.
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Well, first and foremost, you and I are both focused on defeating Mike Johnston’s new tax increase or new debt increase that he wants to get onto the Denver ballot this election cycle, correct, 2025? Yes.
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Yes, this November. And thank you so much for the help with this, Kim. I am so committed to defeating that new debt that he wants. Government debt is such a waste of money.
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And how much is that going to be? Do we know the question yet that’s going to be on the ballot?
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Well, you know, he started out by, of course, having no idea until he asked the citizens what they want, and that’s all a decoy, so he can blame it on the citizens. If he does happen to win, I don’t think he will. So at this point, though, he’s up to $800 million. It may creep up a little bit more, but they’ve been on that for a few weeks. The $800 million in new debt is where they’re at right now.
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Now, is that including debt service? Is that just the ask, or is that including debt service?
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That’s just the ask. And they will deceive on the total amount of the debt service. They won’t talk about that. But the debt service will be on top of that $800 million.
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Okay, so stay tuned. You and I are going to be talking about this on a regular basis on the show.
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Thank you.
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And I just flew this last weekend and went through Denver International Airport. And flying out, everything just went swimmingly. Flying back, not so much. And the Denver International Airport, there’s a lot of money involved in that. So talk to us a little bit about that.
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Isn’t it amazing that you go through that airport and you would think financially they’re probably doing just fine, but they are not. They lose so much money there. They have about $10 billion in debt right now on about $1.4, $1.5 billion in revenue. That’s a debt to revenue of about 750% to 800%. A normal business would never, ever get that much debt. The banks would have cut them off maybe at 100%. debt to revenue, the banks will just completely cut you off and write you off. The reason they get that much debt, of course, is because it’s a government monopoly. It’s owned by the city of Denver. It’s a different entity. They call it an enterprise. And the enterprise is a government monopoly that acts like a business. But the thing is, they have the right to take as much money as they want from the citizens. The business can’t do that because the competition would come in and eat their lunch. But they have no competition. And the other thing is the enterprise is specifically excluded from all Tabor lots. So, you know, the airport goes after more debt on a consistent basis. And all they need is a vote from the Denver City Council to make it happen. And when I’ve been in the chamber of the Denver City Council, they vote unanimously for more debt. So that’s where we’re at.
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Well, and so what ultimately do you think this means? Is it a shell game? Somebody’s making money. So we have this revenue. So where’s all the revenue going from the airport?
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Well, 40% of the revenue is going to the banks. I would not describe it as a shell game so much as just a day-to-day ripoff. Yeah. You know, it’s happening right now. It’ll happen tomorrow. It was happening yesterday. Everybody who uses that airport is paying way too much money for parking and food and rental and everything else because the executives who run that airport, they would rather – nickel and dime a million passengers and to operate that airport correctly. And by correctly, what they need to do is they need to operate that airport at least at breakeven. Breakeven needs to be their goal. It should have been their goal, you know, 10, 20, 25 years ago. And by the way, this debt that I’m talking about, it’s not from building the airport. It’s And it’s not from the construction of the airport. The construction of that airport is a fraction of the cost of the debt service at that airport. In other words, the reason that airport keeps borrowing money is to pay their debt service. If it wasn’t for the debt service, they would be doing fine. But their debt service for 2024 was $554 million in debt service on $1.48 billion in revenue. You just… It’s an unbelievable number. I’ve never seen a financial this terrible. This is the worst financial I’ve ever seen ratio-wise.
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How is it? And Jason Bailey, you had a restaurant business for a number of years in Denver, and we talked about this the last time you were on, through a chain of events, the building was sold where you had your restaurant, and so… You closed at that time. But you’ve been in Denver. You’ve seen this. And Denver is really becoming dangerous and dirty and obviously debt-ridden as well.
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Well, you know, and that’s why I decided not to rebuild the restaurant. We lost our building, and I had it for 14 years. Did that, done that. It was fun. It was good. It was a financial struggle, and I struggled with the city of Denver for 14 years. So, you know, I thought about rebuilding and decided not to. There’s just too much going on, too many problems. We need to correct these problems. We will. I’m optimistic. I’m doing this work because I’m optimistic. You know, I’m not doing all this work because I’m planning to have this whole thing not work out. So we’ll do the work. But, yeah, the idea that Mayor Johnson is going after more debt, It’s just absolutely ridiculous. And they just come up with one silly excuse after the next, and I knock them down. I’ll debate him any time. I would love to, you know.
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You know what? I ended up in a face-to-face debate with him this last election cycle regarding his proposed sales tax increase for, I have this in air quote, affordable housing. That was defeated. And so with hard work and I think talking with citizens about what’s really going on, I think that we can make some great progress. Alan, do you have some questions for Jason Bailey?
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yeah i guess just how do we how do we get rid of the executives running the airport is this purely a city council hire do we put pressure to bear on them how do we how do we get it turned around well thank you and the mayor of the city i can only imagine if the mayor of the city and denver city council would have spent as much time over the past six months
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Going out to the airport and talking to the executives out there and saying, hey, we need to fix this problem. We have a major leak. We’re leaking $554 million a year, and we’re getting nothing out of it, nothing. And if they would have spent that time at the airport rather than going after new debt, they probably would have that problem half fixed or at least moving in the right direction. Whether it takes replacing the executives or not, I guarantee you before that it takes a Denver City Council and the mayor of the city who will actually admit to the problem and then go do something about it. They’re in denial. They say the financials are strong out there. Yeah, I mean, if it’s a government monopoly and you can take as much money from the people as you want because, you know, you have government authority, sure, you can get the bills paid, but you’re ripping off the citizens. Right. You know, it’s going to start with the mayor of the city and Denver City Council admitting to the problem. You know what I mean?
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Well, and to take it one step further, Jason Bailey, is the people of Denver have to understand the issues and vote, vote accordingly. And so a place to start also is at the ballot box regarding the city council voting.
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members and the uh the mayor but do you have an idea on the pay for the you know the um the top level administrators out at the airport well they’re they’re they’re making several hundred thousand dollars and that the uh the overhead uh between finance the chief of staff and the executive is 80 million dollars 80 million dollars of overhead for the top people running that airport That’s just way, way too much money. And, you know, when the Denver City Council and the mayor of the city, when they want to get serious about this, then we can talk about the problem. But until then, it’s my job, Kim, to educate all the people with the city of Denver and the state of Colorado how much debt that airport has. And that is why we’re paying so much to use that airport, even in fees and customer fees and passenger fees. parking fees. We’re paid more every time we rent a car. It’s on and on. But so my job is to educate the people so that the people will push back with the politicians and say, hey, you know, let’s fix this problem at the airport. I don’t think most people know. So, you know, let’s talk about it. Yeah, I love this. Thank you, Kim.
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Well, and then I saw a headline, I think we talked about it yesterday, is that over the next few years, Denver has a $250 million shortfall. This is Johnston and the city of Denver. And that he said that he wanted to create revenue by doing additional things at the National Western and then building a new soccer stadium. So I’m not quite sure how that works together. Alan, you’re thinking that makes a lot of sense, yeah?
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Yeah, I mean, if we’re dumping that much money in the airport, why not take on new debt?
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Yeah.
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You know, I think the government needs to forget about the idea that it knows how to do business and just, you know, focus on the basics and and and reduce the the amount of take uh that that they do um they’re not good at business let business do business our government needs to think like a business when it comes to operationally but not financially and the operational and the financial completely different categories the government should not be thinking business like financially they should be thinking operationally and you do that with the least amount
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of cost to the people not the most amount of cost to the people so the government’s just they they got to figure some of this stuff out especially some of the politicians that never in Denver City Council you know well and the people of Denver need to be paying attention as well and we need to be voting accordingly on that so Jason Bailey your final thought on this and again you’re going to be on the show regularly because we want to shed light on what’s happening
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Thank you very much. I plan to defeat some debt this November. We can have a direct say on this, and it’s going to be on the ballot. We need a vote no for this new debt. And please, if you get a minute, everybody listening, sign up for our newsletter, Citizens for No New Debt. That would be a great place to start to get focused in on this campaign, and we’re on it. And, Kim, I appreciate your help so much. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Well, absolutely. And that’s .org as well, citizensfornonewdebt.org. Jason Bailey, thank you so much. This is truly the American battle. It was always about government trying to take too much in taxes. So I really do appreciate that. And I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And we’ll be very excited to have… Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins with the Second Syndicate as our featured guests in hour number two. And pleased to have them as a new sponsor of the show.
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Thank God it’s on.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And sign up for our weekly email newsletter there. Thank you to all of you who support us. And I did want to say thank you to Hooters Restaurants for their sponsorship of this show. Now, I got to know them. It is a really interesting story about proper role of government, capitalism, freedom, free markets. PBIs, all of that. And so there’s that whole story. You can find that at my website. But they also have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great place to get together for lunch or happy hour Monday through Friday. And be sure and check that out. Alan Thomas is in studio. And we’re going to roll this out this weekend, The Quiet Tyranny of Pronouns. Why forced speech isn’t progress. This is foundational to the American idea is free speech. And the freedom to say something that might make somebody else uncomfortable. But freedom of speech is foundational to liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. So where do you want to start?
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Well, and I make the argument as well that it’s even more… foundational than our freedom as a country it’s when you think about what words actually entail and when people actually speak it’s their own thoughts it’s their own expression and so when you’re mandating and for and compelling them to say something against what they have in their mind to say you’re actually attacking their very conscience and they’re you’re you’re attacking their ability to even think thoughts and that’s why words are so important is how are we able to even have dialogue how are we even able to discuss if we’re not allowed to even think itself and it’s not kind to strip somebody’s conscience away in the guise of civility And that’s really the problem that we’re having with this 13-12. And to maybe back it up quite a bit, when I was raised growing up, my dad was from Tennessee. So I got the, you always say, yes, sir, no, ma’am. It’s Mr. and Mrs. and their last name. And that was really… forced into me as a child to really address people with respect and once it once I kind of got into high school I realized I was a little bit different than a lot of my other peers and whenever I spoke to my teachers it was always yes sir no ma’am and of course you get the looking back on it now as a as now a 30 year old, I was like, Oh yeah, I don’t want to be called sir, ma’am either. That makes me feel really old. Right. And I always got that from teachers, but I never got sent to the principal’s office when reflex took over.
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Right.
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Even though they said, don’t call me, sir. Don’t call me, ma’am. If I accidentally said, yes, sir. No, sir. I never went to the principal’s office. And, and now that we have this law, um, Now that the government has ensured that personal expression is now subject to government oversight, it does make you wonder, could an automatic reflex like that, a civil reflex that I’ve been raised with, could that send me in front of anti-discrimination boards? You know, technically it probably could. And it technically could. And especially for, you know, a colleague, a person who has transitioned, if I were to try and address them with civility and I dead name them or, and that was in air quotes, if I dead name them or if I misgender them, it really could be seen and I could get in trouble. One, for me, genuinely just trying to be civil, but two, also now it’s being forced upon us. And it’s attacking this foundational idea of words and expression. And more importantly, this does not align very well with the historical record that we have on which regimes have been good when they have compelled speech.
SPEAKER 20 :
Has there ever been a regime that’s good with compelled speech?
SPEAKER 13 :
I wonder. And I wasn’t able to find one. So if there is one that has compelled speech and successfully allowed freedom, I was unable to find it. So maybe that’s the task for your listeners is to try and find a positive example of compelled speech. And, Kim, this even goes – this goes even – beyond governments right um when i when i was kind of looking into this article it’s very easy to see religious examples as well of compelled speech and for speech and there’s you know the catholic church has a has a long tradition of it when the english orthodoxy broke away from catholicism they started compelling speech and that did not to very many good examples. Of course, you have in many Muslim states, compelled speech and forced speech from them as well. And that has not ended well. So even when you look beyond just a government compelled speech into religious compelled speech, you can’t find very many good examples of why it works.
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So there are so many that I remember as we were going down this political correctness, that was really the first shot across the bow on compelled speech. Because under the guise of good manners, not to hurt anybody’s feelings, we weren’t going to talk about religion or politics. I’m thinking, well, what else is there? But I realized that there was a tyranny in that. And I finally had gotten to a point, I’d been with a group of girls and kind of across the different political spectrums. And I’m always up for having a conversation. But what I found is I was going down this journey as I was working to try to, and I went initially through an angry period. There were things that were being done that I just, it was crazy to me. And I couldn’t quite connect the dots. But over time, I’ve worked to learn more about all these different issues and have intelligent conversations. And what I realized is in this challenge, we would get to a point and, I think C.S. Lewis said something like this, that if you can’t defend your premises two or three questions in, then maybe you ought to check your premises. But instead people say, let’s just agree to disagree. That doesn’t really work. You know what? We need to have these discussions. And I realized then that that was a form of compelled speech to just say, we’re not going to talk about that anymore. Political correctness. We’re not going to talk about that anymore. Well, that’s how we get to where we are today.
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Well, exactly. And it. It exactly is the reason why we should have free speech is because we can explore ideas. Right. And that’s the danger of political correctness is now we’re no longer exploring ideas because your your your fellow colleagues are just like, well, this is getting too dangerous. We’re saying words that maybe we shouldn’t be saying. So let’s just cut off dialogue. Let’s stop thinking about it. And one of the historical examples I actually brought up in a quote by Aristotle famously attributed to this event was when the Athenians were saying, hey, you’re corrupting our youth. You need to stop talking about religion. You need to stop talking about the gods and all of these things. You’re you’re. ruining our youth right and they said you either need to shut up or we’re gonna put you to death you know we’re gonna democratically put you to death we’ll vote on it we’ll vote on it right and and he said no like i socrates said i i believe in this so so deeply that i’m going to choose death over not speaking and the quote that was attributed to him at that time was the unexamined life is not worth living. And, It just makes you pause. The unexamined life was not worth living. Well, what type of life are you living if you’re forcing people to acknowledge what you are? Are you truly examining your life? And again, the question Socrates would ask, is that then worth living? If you have to force people to stop questioning you, if you have to force people to stop asking you why you’re doing something or what you believe in, you’re really stopping your own self dialogue and self actualization, right? If you want to get even deeper into it, you need to be able to defend why you do what you do. And that’s, The great power of words, that’s the great power of talking with people, is fleshing out those ideas. And that’s why this is just something that’s even deeper than a mere First Amendment. This is something that’s deeper than just a government coming in and telling you what you can and can’t say. It’s an attack on free thought as a concept and as an idea.
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So what do you think about this? I think Jefferson refers to nature’s law in the Declaration. And there is natural law. There’s nature’s law. I know that we get off over here. They take the anomaly over here. to get to 1312. But nature’s law, man, woman, this is a direct affront upon nature’s law. So this just goes to the foundations of truth, I think, and an attack upon the foundations of truth and nature’s law. What would you say to that?
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Absolutely. I mean, I couldn’t agree more. And it’s all done under a guise, right? It’s this guise of civility. It’s, hey, it’s not kind to use the pronouns somebody doesn’t want you to use. And another quote I used in there was by William Edmondson. It said, mandates can mimic virtue, but do not cultivate it. And so, again, they’re using these arguments and these ideas to say, hey, this is going to be a good thing when it’s like, no, you’re just teaching compliance. You’re not teaching compassion. And you can mimic that compassion, but you’re not actually creating it.
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Well, and the other thing with this agenda is that it then is playing out. You mentioned our children. It’s playing out with adults that are either using surgery or pharmaceuticals to cut off healthy body parts. So this is much more serious because that is, from a physical standpoint, causing children to do things to children that’s irreversible. And that’s unconscionable to me.
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And it’s ideological coercion. And that’s the scary part of it is if you are so in favor of this idea, then present it to me as an idea worth embracing. And even in the public sphere, we’ve seen it. Like you said, on your phone, you have preferred pronouns. We see it at workplaces all the time. He, him, she, her, they, them. Allow the public to figure this out. Why did government have to step in and get involved? If it’s a good idea… And if a majority of people are behind it, then there’s a certain aspect of peer pressure that’s going to kick in for ideas, right? But instead, the government has stepped in and put it under this guise of Kelly Loving Act, right? But is it loving to force somebody to do something against their beliefs? Is it loving to do something that goes counter-current to what they actually believe? And the argument could be made, it’s not. Because you’re not truly seeing who they authentically are. You just see who their compliant selves are.
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Boy, this is such an important piece, Alan Thomas. The Quiet Tyranny of Pronouns, Why Forced Speech Isn’t Progress. We’ll be rolling this out this weekend. And this is so foundational to, really, I think, humanity. So we’re going to continue… the discussion on all this. And it happens because of our sponsors for everything mortgages. Make sure that you have Lauren Levy on your side of the table.
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Here’s to love.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And before we get back into this discussion with Alan Thomas, Father’s Day is right around the corner, and a beautiful gift for your loved one, your dad or your husband, is to buy a brick. that will be on the pathways of service out at the USMC Memorial as they are working on that remodel. And to find out all the information about that, go to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. So Alan Thomas, as I say on the show on a regular basis, something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. So let’s say somebody, some adult, transgender, in their own skin, they just need to be comfortable with that. They don’t need to be forcing, using government to force other people to say things, do things, because force is never a good idea. And you mentioned religion. And the interesting religion, human beings have used religion to force people to do things, but Christ never forced people to do things, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
Exactly. And it’s kind of funny too, because if we want to follow the science too, right, there was a 2019 psychological study that was done specifically around how peer pressure and social causes align. And the finding of that study found that, hey, there’s actually this thing called reactants, where if you’re feeling peer pressure to accept a social cause that you’re not that you don’t fully believe in, it actually will reinforce your belief in not believing that social clause. So the irony of this is, if I tell you that you’re going to be forced to tell somebody something, you’re actually going to double down on your belief of not wanting to say that anymore. And so I bring this up because when you have this psychological reactance, the guise of the Kelly Loving Act is that, hey, we’re going to force people to use preferred pronouns and that’s going to slowly make them believe our ideology. ideological alignment right we’re going to slowly force people to to believe this it’s a guise of kindness but that habit of kindness will turn into actual kindness right and this 2019 scientific study actually said no actually this could actually make things worse that people could actually double down and become less open to accepting different ideas because they feel pressured to do it And so, you know, there’s a lot of stubbornness in me for sure. When you pressure me to do something, I don’t want to do it even more, right? If I’m told that I can’t do something, well, now I kind of want to do it a little bit more. And that’s a very human condition. And so the irony of this bill is they actually might be creating more of the behavior they don’t want than the opposite, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
So, Ellen, you’ve got your finger on the pulse of politics. And so what are you seeing? This is 1312, and it’s not by accident they also call it the Kelly Loving Act because there’s the word loving. And so, again, it’s this subtlety to try to think that, well, if you’re against it, You’re then not loving. And so it’s so interesting to watch, I would say, the politics on all this. You talked to a lot of people. Are parents of young people, are they watching this? Are they concerned about it? I’ve heard that from a political standpoint, on the Republican side, they’re like, oh, don’t really talk about this stuff over here. People are only focused on the economy and crime. What would you say to this?
SPEAKER 13 :
you know, and it’s difficult to, because obviously a lot of the friend groups I run in have pretty similar thinking, but this does seem to have pricked a little bit of a nerve for people that have typically kind of stood more on the sidelines. This, this does feel a step too far for the Democrats to have gone. And, and I just wanted to add to, you know, we’re coming up on the end of the show. I, This should be something that Democrats should fear as well, that the progressive ideology should fear as well, because if they’re able to compel us to do this speech, what happens, you know, 50, 60 years when the pendulum swings all the way back? Would they want… a far right, super religious conservative group to be able to say, hey, you have to say prayers in school. Hey, you have to acknowledge that my religious beliefs are correct. This compelled speech is terrifying because even when the pendulum swings back and forth between politics and between parties, they should be scared that the reverse should happen. That’s why we should all be fearful of government overreach is because when the other side gets in power, they can wield that same power, right? And the… The part of it is, and the part I also wanted to highlight, for instance, you know, a lot of Republicans, a lot of right-leaning people really appreciate having to say a Pledge of Allegiance at school every day. How would the left, how would Governor Polis like if we had to institute compelled speech, a compelled Pledge of Allegiance every day before school? Well, they should rightly react against it. They should not be forced to do that. And our Supreme Court actually found that, made that decision in West Virginia versus Barnett. The Supreme Court said, no, you can’t compel people to pledge allegiance to the flag. That is free speech. They are allowed not to do that. And so one can only hope that the Supreme Court, again, will step in in this case and say, no, if we’re not allowed to tell people they have to say the Pledge of Allegiance, this pronoun thing is in such a similar vein that we’re going to strike it down, too.
SPEAKER 20 :
So, Ellen, there are many that think that the demise of America began with taking prayer out of school. And… What do you think about that? Because I don’t think that we should have compelled pledge, compelled prayer. However, I do like the idea of having the Ten Commandments available because they’re pretty good suggestions for life. But I don’t like the force thing. Could there be a quiet time? What do you think about prayer in school?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it wasn’t that prayer was being forced. It was that prayer was no longer allowed, right? Okay. So that’s a force. Right. You were told you’re not allowed to mix religion and this. Deuteronomy, I didn’t know this. I learned this last month or so. Deuteronomy was one of the most quoted verses. sources by our founding fathers when they were founding the Constitution.
SPEAKER 01 :
Really?
SPEAKER 13 :
Not Plato, not Socrates, not Machiavelli. It was Deuteronomy. And it is because Deuteronomy has such great ideas. The Bible does have this foundational principle of fairness and freedom and justice that there’s an absolute reason why. And I agree. We have certainly lost the culture war. And when we ban… prayer when we ban the 10 commandments it’s an even deeper battle than just government force it’s it’s an obvious loss in the culture war as christians and also an acknowledgement of western culture in in general right i mean you can’t you can’t have western culture without the bible and without christianity they they are synonymous and they came up and rose up together right So we need to get back the culture war part of it. And we as Christians can’t be apathetic to it. But at the same token, we can’t fall prey to, again, forcing people to adopt what we believe in just because it’s a good idea. Right. We need to be able to say, hey, you forced me to use you forced and compelled my speech and you wanted to have this ideological coercion. I’m not going to force that on you when I have power. I’m going to allow things to happen again, perhaps. Right. Prayer in school. Maybe I’ll allow that to happen, but I’m not going to force it on anybody because force is always a bad idea, especially when it comes to government. And so we should never. use the same tactics that they use against us.
SPEAKER 20 :
And the founders, they were, as you say, they were all about this ideal that all men are created equal with these rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And so this is a very important piece that you’ve written, The Quiet Tyranny of Pronouns, Why Forced Speech Isn’t Progress. Really honored to roll this out this weekend. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thanks for having me, Kim. Always great being here.
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And for our quote for the end of the show, it’s a little long, but I went to Audie Murphy, a Medal of Honor recipient, and I love this. He said, So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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And by dissecting them, by looking at them through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And on the show, we’re focusing on the issues. And we’ll talk about the people that are pushing those issues, but really working diligently to stay out of the personality gap. fighting that can occur in politics. Our word of the day is nascent. It’s N-A-S-C-E-N-T. It’s an adjective. It could be coming or having recently come into existence. And I would say that this whole transgender ideology that’s being pushed into the culture, it seems like it’s been very nascent. Five years ago, if you would have told me that this would be a big issue, I would not have really thought about that. But it is a huge issue, seeing it played out here at the Colorado State Legislature. And so it’s, I guess, not really NASA, because there’s been something under the surface that’s been pushing this particular issue. Our quote of the day on Fridays, we go to the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. You can order that book by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. And the center is located in Pueblo. And they focus on honoring our Medal of Honor recipients, some great educational programs. And then also they do a great on-value series. And then Drew Dix has started a new podcast as well. And you can get all that information by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. Our quote is from General James E. Livingston. He was a captain at the time of the action. He was born in 1940. These are actions that were taken May 2, 1968, in the Vietnam War. But he said this. He said, “‘There is no greater honor than the opportunity to serve and help preserve our freedom. It is the essence of humanity.'” And that is the great thing that we are called to do today to engage in this battle of ideas that is raging in our state and in our country. And that is why we do the shows. 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And it says, Francesco Gino, a celebrated behavioral scientist at Harvard Business School, was let go after the school’s top governing board determined she tweaked observations in four studies so that their findings boosted her hypothesis. And when they say trust the science, our scientists have many of them have done some things that just has been dishonest. And we saw it during COVID as well, says Harvard administrators notified business faculty that Gino was out of a job in a closed door meeting this past week. It says Harvard did not detail the professor’s firing or tenure being stripped, citing it as a personnel matter, but said that the school had not revoked a professor’s tenure in decades. And it says no professors had their tenure revoked at Harvard since the 1940s when the American Association of University Professors formalized termination rules according to the Harvard Crimson. This is pretty huge. And then we’ve talked about it several times this week, but NPR, National Public Radio, CPR, Colorado Public Radio, they have been receiving taxpayer funds so that they can broadcast. That is not the way it’s supposed to be. There is supposed to be an arm’s length between the press and government. And we certainly have an arm’s length here at the Kim Monson Show because we are an independent voice, meaning we buy our airtime on an independent station, Crawford Broadcasting, to do the show. And there’s very few of us out there. But if we were receiving government funds, then government would have some say in what we were going to report. And so this is so interesting, though. It says NPR and three Colorado public radio stations filed suit recently in federal court against the Trump White House over the president’s executive order that purportedly bars the use of congressionally appropriated funds for NPR and PBS. It is not always obvious when the government has acted with a retaliatory purpose in violation of the First Amendment. But this wolf comes as a wolf, the legal filing for the public broadcaster’s state. The order targets NPR and PBS expressly because in the president view, their news and other content is not fair, accurate or unbiased. I have to agree with Donald Trump on that. And so I think that this is a huge headline as well. Next thing that I wanted to mention is that RFK Jr. says that the COVID-19 shot will no longer be recommended for healthy children and pregnant women. And it is really about time. And when we had Dr. Jack on last week, good friend of RFK Jr., he said that changing these mandates is It does take time, but really pleased that RFK Jr. has announced this. And it says the immunization schedule post online recently has not been changed yet. 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it is friday and welcome back to the kim monson show be sure and check out our website that is kim monson monson.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well and thank you to all of you who support us we’re an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something’s a good idea you should not have to force people to do it and pleased to have as a sponsor of the show a good partner of the show is the Second Syndicate. And you can find them at the number two, ndsyndicate.com. So the secondsyndicate.com. And we have Teddy Collins and Alicia Garcia, who are the co-founders of the Second Syndicate on the line. They’re also with Spartan Defense. Teddy Collins, welcome to the show.
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Hey, thank you for having me today.
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And Alicia Garcia, welcome. Good morning. So, Teddy, you have issued a press release at thesecondsyndicate.com regarding your concern that the suppressor win in the Big Beautiful Bill might be harmful to Colorado gun owners. Ouch. What’s going on here, Teddy?
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So, unfortunately, under Colorado state law, suppressors and silencers are— designated as dangerous devices under Colorado state law. The only way to possess one or to purchase one in the state of Colorado is you have some form of valid license in order to do so. Now, for years, that has been accepted as the NFA tax stamp. In the big, beautiful bill, it removes this tax stamp, which I want to be clear, we’re in support of. We don’t believe there should have been a tax stamp in the first place or that these should be regulated like they are. But unfortunately for Colorado, as a result of that, there will be no form of license that someone could use. could possess in order to go out to a store and purchase one of these. So if the bill is signed as it currently is worded, it would make it illegal to purchase suppressors in the state of Colorado for the foreseeable future unless the state legislator were to step in or unless the federal government were to add Section 3 of the Hearing Protection Act back to the bill, which they have excluded at this point.
SPEAKER 20 :
Why do you think that they excluded that, Teddy?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think it may have been an oversight. There’s been a lot of chatter. At the same time, I just want to be clear as well, it’s not just Colorado that this is affecting. It’s actually close to 20 states. We’ve identified 17, and I’ve been told by James Cook, who raised the alarm on this from the Colorado Federal Firearms Licensing Association, that there’s around 20-plus states that would actually be affected by this if the law goes into effect or if the bill is signed as it is. So it’s not just Colorado. I think it may be an oversight. I’m not 100% sure. I know that there’s some issues with the bird rule as well. So we’re trying to figure that out right now, and we’re trying to see if we can get some people on board to change this.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, and that’s one of the problems with so many of these things, that there can be hidden things that happen with it. So Alicia Garcia, how did you guys figure this out?
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Well, so Teddy and I are also involved in the Colorado Federal Firearms Licensee Association. And one of the board members who was just mentioned by Teddy is James Cook, who is also one of the lead attorneys in the state of Colorado for firearms legal protection, who is a huge supporter of ours, but is also a FFL and also on the board of the Colorado Federal Firearms Licensee Association. So he has been doing some research and he reached out to us and said, hey, we should probably look into this. And for the past few days, Teddy and I have been doing a lot of research and reaching out to different organizations and organizations people that we work with in the industry across the nation, and seeing what we could do to not only spearhead this, but to bring awareness to it and contact a lot of our lawmakers, including the State Senate Finance Committee, or excuse me, the National Finance Committee, to let them know that, hey, indeed, we appreciate that they are doing what they can, because keep in mind, this is a very once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get these things deregulated on a federal level. However, we want them deregulated for everyone, not just for the opportunity to get it written into the bill.
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Okay, and you referenced the Byrd rule in there, and that’s not B-I-R-D, that’s B-Y-R-D. So explain the Byrd rule to us, Alicia.
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So essentially, it’s very confusing and it’s very difficult, but it has to do with the fact that they can vote on something or it has to apply to the way it works for, I believe, tax purposes. And I’m sure Teddy can elaborate on this a little bit more. Indeed, I am not an attorney, but it’s a way that they would have to vote on it. It has something to do with the fact that it is tax-oriented. And that would make it a way that they could either implement it or veto it out of the bill.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. I can elaborate on that for sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Great.
SPEAKER 09 :
So what is it, Teddy? Okay. So the Byrd Rule is a way to get – so we’re passing a budget bill. We’re passing something that – I’ll put it in as layman’s terms as possible because it is pretty complex – Essentially, in order to get past a filibuster in the Senate, 60 votes to override a filibuster, they can do this through a budget bill once every so often. Now, the amendments that are added to the bill and the things that are added to the bill have to be budget-focused or tax-focused. That’s the bird rule. In order to be able to get past that 60, in order to do a simple majority vote versus a 60-member majority vote, if that makes sense in the Senate. It’s pretty complex. Our legal counsel explained it to you. It’s kind of hard to explain. But the bird rule is kind of the block, and that’s why they may or may not have left language out and or are having difficulty adding language back in.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. And so are you talking to, you know, our representatives on Capitol Hill about this? You know, what’s happening on that, Teddy Collins? Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, so we are formatting a letter to our representatives on Capitol Hill, and we have been in touch with several of our congressional members, our friendly congressional members at least, here in the state of Colorado to raise this alarm. But again, I want to be clear, it’s not just Colorado this will affect. We have identified at least 17, and we’re about to add three more states to that that this would affect, where essentially if the bill is signed with the wording it is, suppressors would be illegal from purchase unless the state legislators act in those states. to remove the language that classifies them by state law as dangerous devices and requiring a federal permit or state permit.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and Alicia Garcia, with this Colorado State Legislature and with this governor, I do not see that they would do anything to help our Second Amendment rights. So I don’t see them doing anything here in Colorado to right this potential, I want to say wrong, but so this potential Second Amendment question. Your thoughts?
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s why it’s very important to continue doing what we’re doing now with the second Senate. So we have been working with every single Republican that is in the state of Colorado, both in the House and Senate, We’ve come up with a letter that we’ve drafted alongside our legal counsel, James Cook, to make sure that we can reach out to, I believe his name is Mike Crapo, who is the head over there of the Senate Finance Committee in D.C. And we’re reaching out to him and saying, hey, you know what? We support the Big Beautiful Bill. We support… getting these items decriminalized in the federal level however we really appreciate it that you include basically the entire language of the hearing protection act and also include the language of the short act so what we’re doing is con not only contacting them through the avenues that we have on a for you know our state representatives and our senate representatives But we’re encouraging everybody, and when I mean everybody, I mean this is a call to action nationwide to reach out to their Senate Finance Committee in D.C. You can do a very, very easy Google search. Also, we’ll be publishing that information today on our X account at TheSecondSyndicate.com. with everybody’s contact information, how they could reach out to them, how they can reach out to the switchboard over there at the D.C. office in Washington and say, hey, you know what? We would really appreciate it if you include the language of the Hearing Protection Act, including Section 3, as well as the SHORT Act, to make sure that we are representing gun owners nationwide so that it’s not just for some, but it is for all.
SPEAKER 20 :
okay and uh so that best place will be to be following you on x to get that information alicia Absolutely. Okay. Okay. Well, this is really important work that you’re doing. And, Teddy, are you having a membership of the Second Syndicate? I know you’re trying to start to bring all these voices together so that we can be unified in protecting the Second Amendment, because the Second Amendment also protects the First Amendment, which in the first hour we were talking with… Alan Thomas and this House Bill 1312 compels speech here in Colorado. We’ve got a bunch of stuff that isn’t going very well here in Colorado for liberty.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, we don’t. And we really need to be prepared for the next legislative session coming up, because remember, we don’t have an election until after the 2026 legislative session in which we can change leadership here in the state of Colorado. So, yes, we will be offering a membership. That’s to be announced. It’s something that’s coming very soon. We’ll be offering both individual memberships for. you know, individual people who want to be a part of the Second Senate, they want to be informed, want to support the cause, help us lobby, help us use those funds in order to support the Second Amendment here in the state of Colorado, as well as business memberships for business members that are pro-two-way businesses. So that will be coming very soon, so I appreciate you asking about that. But right now we are just preparing for the battle ahead that’s coming up in 2026, and we are trying to right this battle. uh for the big beautiful bill because again if this passes i mean guys um the the chances of this getting fixed in colorado not until 2026 and that’s a that’s a that’s wishful thinking so you better go out and get your suppressors while you can now because if you do not have a federal tax stamp for that suppressor you will not be able to be in possession of it in the state of colorado or purchase one
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, we’re going to continue the discussion with Teddy Collins and Alicia Garcia. They are the founders of thesecondsyndicate.com and working to unify these voices around our Second Amendment. Teddy’s alluded to the election of 2026, and so we’ll talk a little bit about that when we come back. And these are such important discussions, and they happen because of our sponsors like the Second Syndicate. And for everything residential real estate, you’d like to have Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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SPEAKER 20 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is kimmonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And Father’s Day is right around the corner. And a great gift would be to buy a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service out at the USMC Memorial as they are completing their remodel. You’ll receive a beautiful certificate. My father passed on a couple of years ago. And one of the gifts I did get for him was a brick to honor his service in the United States Air Force. It was one of the most treasured gifts I’d ever given him. He had the certificate on his wall that really honored his military service. So more information on that, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And Teddy Collins and Alicia Garcia are on the line. And they are the co-founders of… The Second Syndicate, you can get information about that by going to thesecondsyndicate.com. And second is the number two in D, thesecondsyndicate.com. And Alicia, here in Colorado, you would think that it would be easy for us all to, on the Second Amendment side, to come together to really battle what had occurred from a legislative standpoint, for example, Senate Bill 003, which was the ban on magazines down here at the Statehouse, but that didn’t happen. And so that’s why you and Teddy decided to become the founders of the second syndicate.
SPEAKER 06 :
Indeed. And I want to make it very clear that when we’re talking about these very specific rules, like we were just mentioning the bird rule and all these technicalities, we actually had a very special show last night on our YouTube channel at the Second Syndicate, as well as at Spartan Defense Armory, who is one of our biggest sponsors, that you can go actually to our show on YouTube and you can see our interview with James Cook. And we address these things from the mouth of him and actually talk about what the bird rule is, talk about what we can do about it and how we can spearhead and get this fixed. Because one of the beautiful things that will happen with the big, beautiful bill is it will allow us with this language in it to combat bills like SB 25003. And it will give us some ammunition against this type of legislation because it’ll say, hey, look, now these things are no longer deemed legal through the eyes of the federal government. Right now, one of the things that we’re asking the government to do is… deal with the preemption that they have versus state and federal to ensure that laws like our legislature here in Colorado that is very, very anti-freedom and anti-2A no longer has the ability to pass such laws because it indeed violates our Constitution and our federal laws to be free Americans and exercise our right to self-defense.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and Teddy Collins, what I think I saw regarding this last legislative session, and it’s been a long march beginning probably in 2000 with legislation here in Colorado that’s been chipping away at our Second Amendment rights. But I think there’s this strategy by the radicals that have taken over the Democrat Party that that we’re going to pass all kinds of different stuff. There’s no way that there would be the financial resources to challenge the constitutionality of each one of them. And I think that they are flooding the zone with all these different bills because we’ve been focused on 003. But there was other bad stuff that was passed down at this legislature in 2025.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we have the ammo bill that passed that raised the age to purchase ammo in the state of Colorado to 21, required stores to have to keep the ammo behind the counters locked up and not available to the public for them to be able to just grab what they want and check out. We also have the gun show bill that passed that’s going to be probably the death of gun shows here in the state of Colorado. They’re chipping away at your constitutional rights daily by going after the sale of these items. That’s their strategy, and it’s a shotgun blast of laws that they’re passing. Because they know that if one of these falls, at least they pass the other 10, that may stand up. Or maybe it costs, you know, $3 million to file a constitutional challenge against one. Well, now you have to do it against 15 of them. So what are the resources for? For every pro-gun dollar that’s given, I believe the stats show that there’s about 50 anti-gun dollars that are given. So the resources just aren’t there. And that’s why it’s important to have 2A organizations like the Second Syndicate and the other 2A organizations here in Colorado fighting for these resources. are fighting against these laws.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and Teddy, you and Alicia, with your work with Spartan Defense, you talk with a lot of people out there. And first thing is a lot of firearm owners don’t vote. This is crazy to me, Teddy.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is, because if people would just show up to vote. I want to say that the CFLA, I have to promise Sean Steele about this, who’s the president of the organization, but he ran an analysis, and I think it’s like 17,000 or 18,000 votes that could sway and flip the entire legislature. We had representatives that won their seat by two and three votes, Representative Kelty, for example. To say that your vote doesn’t matter is insane. Show up and vote. We need you to be there. in Colorado and you’re military, make sure to vote here in the state of Colorado. You have the ability to do that. You could actually change the tie, especially if you’re coming from a conservative, safe state. You could actually help here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 20 :
So Alicia, and you work with a lot of women, and I think there are those, there are women that are just afraid of firearms. And of course, when you see headlines of school shootings and mass shootings, there is this narrative that they play into that if we could just get rid of firearms, we’d get rid of mass shootings, we’d make our community safer. What do you say to that, Alicia Garcia?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, look how successful that was with drugs. Look how successful that was with, you know, alcoholism and all these other things. When we’re dealing with the human… you know the human connection and we’re dealing with the human mind we’re dealing with the fact that we indeed are animals And to be an animal is to be innately violent, unfortunately. And, you know, these skill sets that we have because we are animals are there to protect us and to drive us to survive. We have that innate drive to survive. And I talk to people a lot about the importance of loving yourself enough to stay alive. This isn’t always about the gun. It’s about empowering yourself with the mindset that, hey, you know what? I deserve to get home to my loved ones today. I deserve… to grow old i deserve to pursue life and love and liberty and to live in peace and harmony and the only way that we can guarantee that we do that is to ensure that we have longevity and the way to preserve life is to protect it and one of the things that i speak to my students about is you know the gun is a tool your words your mouth that’s the tool a knife is a tool self-defense is an act The mindset and the mind is truly the weapon. And one of the things that I ask people that is very, very anti-gun is, okay, maybe you are not somebody that is wanting to walk around every day armed as I do. But my question to them is, Would you know if somebody was holding a gun to you or pointing a gun at you, what type of gun that is, if it is armed, is the external safety on? Are they engaging the backstrap safety? Is there ammunition in that firearm? Would you know how, indeed, if you were able to get possession of that gun that could potentially be used against you, would you know how to disarm it? Would you know how to open the cylinder or rack the slide and drop the magazine and clear the chamber to make sure that, indeed, It’s not able to be used against you in a detrimental way. It’s not always about being able to commit an act of defense, but also to commit an act of self-love and just to make sure that, indeed, you’re protecting your ability to grow old and love your family and get home at the end of the night. So these are things that we need to start asking each other in society. And, you know, when we look at the statistics when they’re talking about, quote-unquote, mass shootings, I’ve said this plenty of times, the CDC is notoriously anti-gun. And the CDC promotes a number, which is about 50,000 people that die due to, quote, unquote, mass shootings in the way they define that. The CDC also says that anywhere from 500,000 to 2 million, 2 million are uses of guns in the nation every year that de-escalate or defend life. So what about those lives that we are not accounting for? What about those incidents where even a firearm may or may not be discharged because the presence of a firearm de-escalated that ability?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and the other thing, Alicia Garcia, is a firearm is the great equalizer. So for, say, a 120-pound woman… that might be attacked by a 220 pound man, a firearm in that situation will be her great equalizer to help protect herself, Alicia.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. And, you know, maybe carrying a firearm isn’t for everyone, but it indeed is a right. And it shouldn’t be up to others to decide how we navigate ourselves through life, how we choose to defend and protect and provide for our family. That is our right as human beings to make those decisions. And I think that imposing your will on others is exactly the point of why we carry firearms. It’s not so others can impose their will on us. It’s so we can pursue our way of life without being impeded on or being dictated what to do. Because when we have people that are forcing themselves upon us and forcing their wills upon us, that isn’t freedom. and the ability to say no is one of the most important things that comes with firearms ownership is the ability to resist and it’s the ability to say exercise hey you know what i’m not okay with that hey you’re not going to do that to me hey you’re not going to take away my ability to live as a free human being and that’s why it’s so important that we continue to preserve and protect and defend these types of rights.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, absolutely. And Teddy Collins, there are those when talking about the Second Amendment, they said, well, the founders, they didn’t have the weaponry that we have now in 2025 society. And so when we say that we want to protect the Second Amendment, sometimes an argument comes up as, well, does that mean that we should have the same weapons as the U.S. government now? And yet they use that argument then to take away the right for us just to have regular weapons, firearms, I want to say, that we could use to protect ourselves. What do you say to that argument? that argument that they just wanted to be able to hunt, they had muskets, they didn’t have this kind of weaponry that we have today.
SPEAKER 09 :
would also say it’s false. There’s things like puckle guns and other items that they did have that were capable of firing multiple shots at the same time back in that day. That being said, though, the Founding Fathers designed the Constitution to be a living, breathing document, a skeleton document that could adapt with time and with the advancement of technology and with the advancement of civilization. There is a process in the Constitution if they want to change the wording of the Second Amendment. It is the amendment process itself. There are several ways for them to do that. not passing state laws. That is not what the Constitution dictates. Not court interpretations. That is not what this Constitution dictates. And also just to elaborate a little bit more of what Alicia said about the right to self-defense is you may not be comfortable carrying a firearm, but don’t take away someone else’s right to carry a firearm because at the end of the day, you can’t carry a cop on your back, but you can easily carry a gun on your side and protect yourself and protect your family. Don’t take away someone else’s right to self-defense. Because the best type of self-defense is a proactive self-defense, not a reactive self-defense, which is what our law enforcement are. They’re reactive to the situation, not proactive.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and the founders have the Second Amendment so that we, as individuals, can protect ourselves against bad actors. And they totally understood that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, definitely. So, Teddy Collins, Alicia Garcia, A, it’s really great to have the Second Syndicate as a sponsor of the show because I want to, on a regular basis, be shedding light on our Second Amendment because, Alicia, as you say, the Second Amendment is there to protect the first. And so how can people get more information? I know you’re going to be rolling out your membership. So what’s the best way to reach you?
SPEAKER 06 :
So feel free, everybody out there who’s listening to reach out to us. You can email us at info at the second syndicate dot com. We also do have an ability right now for people to donate to us. We are a 501 C4. So we are a nonprofit. So people, if you would like to donate to us and support our movement, we do have a give send go at the second syndicate that you can go and donate funds to us. Every single dollar helps. We also have merch available on our Bonfire store that you can see in the links at our website at the Second Syndicate or on our Twitter or X account at Second Syndicate. And one of the things that I want to do is not only say thank you to you, Kim, for allowing us an opportunity to speak to the people of Colorado and get them more involved and aware of what’s going on. I would really appreciate it, and we would really appreciate it at the Second Syndicate, if people would take an opportunity not only to reach out to our senators, Michael Bennett and to John Hickenlooper, and tell them, hey, you know, we are pro-Two-Way. We want to defend the right that we have here, and we want to see not only the language of the Hearing Protection Act, but also the Short Act put back into the big, beautiful bill. You can also reach out to the United States Capitol switchboard, and that phone number is 202-224-2024. And what you can do there is you can be very professional, you can be kind, but you can also be firm and say, hey, my name is Alicia Garcia and I am your constituent and I want you to support the Hearing Protection Act and the Big Beautiful Bill and include the original language of the short act in the Big Beautiful Bill. And don’t say things that would encourage you to red flag yourself or put you in harm’s way. make any threats or you know say anything too aggressive but you definitely have the ability to reach out to these people and exercise your voice and use that to support the second amendment and all that takes is your time that is free and it is your civic duty to speak up about these things because what a lot of people seem to forget is that silence is acceptance And we the people hold the power of this country. It is our right and our ability to ensure that these people who are out there representing and working for us are extensions of our voice. And this is our opportunity. It’s a once in a lifetime chance to make sure that we are changing the face of firearms and firearms accessory ownership for our children. So please make sure that you guys reach out if you do that and that we stand up for the second amendment.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, thank you so much, Alicia Garcia. Teddy Collins, your final thought.
SPEAKER 09 :
Just get involved. Be aware of what’s going on. Register to vote. Show up to vote. We have a very important election coming up in 2026. We have another legislative session that we have to get through beforehand. Be involved. Be aware. Be informed.
SPEAKER 20 :
Absolutely. And so we’ll continue to make that happen, Teddy Collins and Alicia Garcia. Thank you so much. And that is TheSecondSyndicate.com. TheSecondSyndicate.com. We’ll talk again next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you so much. Thank you.
SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure to check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I did want to let you know that… Let’s see. On Monday, there is an urgent call to action. Citizens can come and support Mike Lindell. His defamation trial brought against him by Eric Coomer with Dominion will begin on Monday, June 2nd. There’s going to be a 7.45 a.m. press conference in front of the U.S. courthouse on 19th Street, and so that is coming up this Monday. And so that’s going to be super interesting to see what happens here, and that’s, again, a federal district court here in Denver, and that’ll be on June 2nd, and that presser is at 7.45 a.m. on Monday. Let’s see. Other things that are occurring, we may hear from, I think we’re going to hear from Gammy. She had an issue, I think it’s an annexation question that she’s concerned about down in Colorado Springs, so we wanted to give her a minute or two regarding that. But one of the press, the publications that I’ve been going to, to try to give us an idea of kind of what the other side has to say is Axios. And this was reported by them. They said U.S. Representative Gabe Evans, he’s Republican, stood in front of the state capitol yesterday and defended his support for President Trump’s spending bill, touting efforts to extend tax breaks. and purge waste from safety net programs like Medicaid. Now, again, purge waste. Says the first-term GOP congressman is looking to shift the conversation about Trump’s one big, beautiful bill ahead of the 2026 election, where he will… need to protect his seat in 2026. It says U.S. Representative Lauren Boebert, a Republican from Windsor and other local Republicans that decide Evan spent 50 minutes trying to recast the bill as a win for Coloradans and push back against TV ads and protests. And he repeatedly emphasized the need for work requirements for able-bodied adults to receive Medicaid health insurance and SNAP nutritional benefits and the removal of people living in the country illegally. I totally agree with him on that. Other parts of the bill he celebrated included the extension of the Trump tax cuts set to expire at the end of the year and greater child tax credit, a $4,000 deduction for Social Security recipients, and $46 billion for border security. so let seems like that all makes a lot of sense to me as well so um says we’re he says we’re trying to be open and honest about what is in this bill and you don’t have to agree or like what i say nevertheless we are here to lay down the facts okay so um we do have callers calling in we’ve got doug in douglas county on the line doug what’s on your radar well in reference to earlier you know um
SPEAKER 10 :
Political speech, PC. PC is politically corrupt. It’s not correct. And, you know, they’ve usurped words, and words mean things. And same with the rainbow. You know, the left is very good at corrupting good things and turning them around and limiting your ability and your rights. The Second Amendment is about defending and protecting rights. you know, their argument, it also not just handguns, it’s knives. You know, they’ve gone after the length of a knife that you can or can’t have. You know, you can’t have certain things that they deem as a weapon. Anything can be used a weapon. It depends on the individual. And that’s not government’s role. But when they say modern firearms are not what the founders were envisioning, well, I’m sure the founders weren’t envisioning modern radio and modern telegraph and the Internet and everything else. So that’s free speech. So we should just eliminate all that because that does mass communication. So we should just eliminate that, too. It doesn’t make any sense. It’s freedom. And it’s freedom what they’re going after. And it’s freedom what they’re trying to control. And it’s about power and control. It’s not about freedom. It’s about usurping your right to speak. and your right to protect your right to speak in your country and everything else. And people need to look at it in the big picture that freedom and liberty is something that our founding fathers gave their sacred oath and honor, and many of them died for, along with our veterans and people in all walks of life that fight for the right reasons. And they’re trying to divide, demonize, and destroy us with these laws and these rules and these regulations by separation. And it’s wrong.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, very well said, Doug. Thank you. And you’re right. It’s politically corrupt, not politically correct. So thank you so much. And Gammy’s on the line. We’ve got just a little over a minute, Gammy. I know there’s an issue you’re concerned about down in the
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, it is. Hi, everybody. Hugs and keep fighting for the good fight. Listen, we have a bill here in El Paso County, Colorado Springs, that we’re voting for. The Carmen annexation wants to bring in almost 2,000 acres, three miles out of the city. And the bottom line is it’s not that we’re against voting. future development, you know. But they’re also adding 100 acres of commercial buildings, like 6,000 homes. And we are all stretched with infrastructure, the small roads. But the biggest infraction of this annexation, I can’t believe we have six military installations in our whole regions that are so critical. And here’s Schriever, uh, Space Force out there and they want to build this annexation within a mile or less distance to one of the national security issues of our nation is the Schriever Space Force. And I can’t believe the city of Colorado Springs didn’t have the brains. to just create a huge buffer. They should do it now around the Schriever so that the road and all the infrastructural problems it could create in a situation don’t impede anything that Schriever would do. And I wrote an op-ed, I don’t know if they’ll print it, and I tried to call the head of the base to say, you know, I don’t want to say something wrong, but how does this impact you? But it doesn’t take anybody with half a brain to know you don’t build all of that infrastructure, warehouses, homes, within less than a mile of something that important. And I think if the Springs wants to claim it supports the military, it needs to get off its crazy behinds and create way bigger buffers of protection.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Gammy, thank you. And we’re out of time, but she is so informed. And yeah, that does seem like there should be a buffer from a national security standpoint. Our quote for the end of the show, I went to Audie Murphy, Medal of Honor recipient, of course, actor as well. But he said, the true meaning of America, yes, gets in a Texas rodeo. in a policeman’s badge, in the sound of laughing children, in a political rally, in a newspaper. In all these things and many more, you’ll find America. In all these things, you’ll find freedom. And freedom is what America means to the world and to me. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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