What’s the real cost of building your dream hot rod? John Rush tackles that question and more in this episode of Drive Radio. From a deep dive into the pros and cons of engine start-stop technology to the flood of misinformation from automotive influencers, John and his guests break down how to navigate today’s car market with clarity and confidence. Plus, insightful advice on EV rentals, titling classic cars, and what makes some vintage vehicles drop in value—even when they’re flawless. If you’re in the market for a used classic or just tired of the online hype, this is
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And we are back. Hour number three. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Charlie Grimes, our engineer today. Larry Unger, of course, answering phones. Ken Rackley, Tune Tech Automotive with us, as well as Patch Knight from All Tech Automotive up in Fort Collins. And got a question that came in on the text line. Great question, by the way. Going to be in the market for a truck or an SUV in a year or so. Love the Ford full-size F-150, but didn’t like the engine stop-start at stoplights. Are they going away from that yet, and is there a kill switch to override it? So that’s a two-part question. Number one, on most vehicles, You can turn the start-stop off, but here’s the caveat. You have to do it every time you climb into the car. So every time you reset the car, turn the car off, start it back up again, you are going to have to reset that because it’s an automatic on feature that they did for cafe ratings, fuel economy, and so on. Now, with the current administration, there is rumors. I haven’t seen anything definitive yet, but there’s rumors that they want to kill all the start-stop technology because everybody hates it. And it’s adding cost to cars because there’s typically an extra battery, a heavier-duty starter, things along those lines where they’re making things more robust. Because that’s the other thing you hear people say that, by the way, are not correct in their thought process. No, they don’t wear out starters faster. No, they don’t wear out batteries faster, etc. They’re designed for all of that. They’ve made them heavy enough to where that’s the non-issue. It’s really more of the fact that it’s an annoyance for a lot of people that drive them. Inconvenient and expensive. They’re constantly turning. In my case, it’s in the center console area. You turn it on and off. And it’s typically light-duty trucks and under. Heavy-duty trucks don’t have start-stop. It’s light-duty trucks and under. So the answer is yes, the majority of them have switches. You can turn that off. And this administration is talking about doing away with those. Will they get that done? Is it so ingrained into the technology now that they’re just going to leave it even if the mandate goes away? I don’t know. I don’t have an answer. I’m not privy to all that. I don’t know.
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Right. Yeah. And that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, like I said, it’s an annoyance.
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It is.
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It is. And like on my daughter’s vehicle, she has a 19 Escape. And so her regular battery was starting to fail, and it just shut that off automatically because the other battery wasn’t holding enough voltage when she would come to a… Correct. So her battery was probably going bad for like a year and a half. Just didn’t know it. And it didn’t work. And she’s just like, oh, well, that system’s not working anymore. Great. And then we replaced the battery, and then all of a sudden… hey, it started doing that again.
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It came back. And there are added, to Ken’s point, there’s added costs and things with start-stop, and that’s part of what this current administration is looking at is because it’s been one of the biggest complaints that a lot of consumers have with I’ll say it straight up. I think it’s one of the highest rated complaints that people have buying new cars is the start-stop technology. And those complaints in this case get run all the way up to those that mandated it, which is the EPA. And they’re listening at this point. This administration is. So that may be one of those things you see go away. But for now, I don’t know. And I don’t know in a year from now that that’s something I can’t. No one can. And by the way, this is another thing I wanted to mention today. There are a lot of, we talked about this earlier, influencers. I talked about this during Fix It Radio. A lot of influencers out there, all over social media. They’re on TikTok, they’re on Instagram, they’re on Facebook, they’re on YouTube. And yeah, these guys make money by you watching and clicking. It’s how they make money. And what I can tell you is there’s a lot of them that are totally influencing nothing but hype. What I mean by that is, you know, oh, Cadillac just announced a Corvette, you know, blah, blah, blah in their model. No, they didn’t. No, they didn’t. No, and with AI, you can do all sorts of things to even make a new Corvette look like it’s a Cadillac. But no, there is nothing out there in the rumor mills at all that Cadillac is going to be having its own Corvette. And frankly, the likelihood of that ever happening, knowing that Corvette is its own thing. It’s its own division inside of Chevrolet. It literally could be kind of its own car company if you wanted it to be. It literally should be. There is no way they’re going to put a Cadillac emblem on that car. Not going to happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Sorry. That’s not their market.
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No, but yet you will see guys out on social media talking about things like that. Also talking about, yep, GM just announced there’s going to be a 700-horsepower ZR2 full-size truck to go against the Raptor R and so on. No, there hasn’t been any announcements. No, there hasn’t. Right, exactly.
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So gossip is still gossip, and don’t believe everything you hear.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. Oh, did you see that? Yeah, right.
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No, folks. So you’ll see all sorts of things on social media, and what I will tell you is verify it. If you see somebody that makes some sort of an announcement along those lines, before you go tell someone else or even share that video, because those guys get money off of that also. Because every time you click and watch and share, they’re getting money off of that. So before you do that, verify that that, in fact, is what’s going on. And it doesn’t take much of a search on the Internet to figure out if something is really true or not.
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Go to the Ford site, go to the GM site, go to anything like that.
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GM Authority, by the way, when it comes to the GM stuff, is a pretty highly, not always accurate, but… Pretty close when it comes to stuff going on inside of GM. They’ve got some pretty good inside sources on what’s going to be happening and so on. So, yeah, if you see something where you’re just like, yeah, I don’t know about that, go look at some of those sites Ken is talking about and verify if that, in fact, is true or not because there’s so much garbage.
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Sure.
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on the internet where there’s, and these influencers, quote unquote, are making money off of this. And I’ll just tell you straight up, there’s a lot of them, they’re just dead wrong.
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Money for nothing.
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Yeah, they’re dead wrong. They are leading people down the wrong track. They are not correct. There’s been a lot of folks even of late because of, The administration that we have now and the EPA and so on telling you that, oh, yeah, you’re okay to delete your diesel. Go for it. I wouldn’t.
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I wouldn’t either.
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I mean, you know, more power to you. How much do you want to spend?
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Yeah, right.
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And they’re coming out saying because of the new EPA rules, you can now go do that. Folks, nothing has been passed down from EPA, period, even with this administration saying you can delete your truck.
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Right.
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It’s not out there, folks. Those things don’t exist.
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I think there’s just a pent-up demand. A lot of consumers are looking for that to happen, but there’s nothing coming down the pipe.
SPEAKER 04 :
Pat, you just hit something on the head. A lot of times people will follow and like and listen to these things that they would love to see happen. And so they’ll be all in on that particular video, but that video is dead wrong. And that influencer is, frankly, dead wrong. Jeff in Montana, go ahead.
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Good morning. Actually, I guess it’s good afternoon again. Yes, it is. Yes. I have one of those inquisitive idiot questions. We were down in Texas last week for a grandchildren’s graduation from high school and had the opportunity to rent an electric vehicle. And we didn’t because I wasn’t really sure about how to charge them and what to look for. In terms of charging, I know you can do fast charge, slow charge. You can hook them up to 110, but I don’t know if rental vehicles have that capability.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really quick and a great question. Let’s do this one at a time. So in most cases, you always have to verify this as you’re getting ready to rent one. Typically, they’ll put the 120-volt charger in the back. uh area of the vehicle it’ll be in a bag it’ll be in where the you know cargo area is sometimes you got to flip a lid up and kind of look inside and in that case uh you typically on most cars it’s not universal but typically jeff for most evs when you plug into 120 you will get roughly about and don’t quote me on this but you’ll get roughly five to ten miles of range in an hour It depends on the vehicle and its battery and so on and time of the year and temperature and so on. But you can pretty much figure on average about eight miles per hour of charge on 120. Now, if you can go to level two charging, which ChargePoint, there’s all sorts of people. Some hotels even will have a level two charger. Sometimes it’s free. Sometimes you have to pay and so on. In some cases, you can go find one someplace in town. And if you get the apps, they all have them. ChargePoint has a network all around the country. You get a ChargePoint app, download it, and it’ll tell you exactly where. Some of those things are now some EVs will even include in its nav system where charge stations are that they know that vehicle can charge at as well. They’re a part of some of those networks. Every EV manufacturer does that a little bit differently. And I say all of that to say that’s for everything that’s non-Tesla. Okay? Tesla’s its own thing. Tesla has its own port and its own cord system that it uses, which is different than everybody else that does the EV. If you want to go use a regular level two charge point charger on a Tesla, you have to have an adapter. If you want to go to a Tesla charge station and charge up your Chevy EV, you know, your Equinox or your Bolt or whatever, you have to have an adapter because they do not go back and forth. Tesla, Musk, he did his own thing with his own Charging ports and so on, and frankly, it’s slicker and smaller and better, frankly, I believe, than what the other ones are, but it’s different. They’re not one and the same. Now, fast charging, Jeff, that goes to a whole other level. Fast charging is all DC direct charging to the battery pack itself because everything that’s in a mobile device, You know, charge capacity like an EV is DC. It’s direct current. That’s the battery that’s in it. So fast charging is doing nothing more than directly charging that battery through high 440 volt, you know, coming across a DC charge right into the car. Otherwise, what the car is doing, Jeff, is like on a 240 volt charger. It’s got its own internal inverter that’s taking things from that 240 volt to the direct charge going into the battery to the DC going directly into the battery.
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It takes longer.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right.
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Okay. So level one, you can do on 110, or do you need to?
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Yeah, 120 volt, level one, 240 volt, level two, direct DC fast charge is usually 440, direct DC current going in.
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Okay.
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And that’s why when you go to a direct, a DC fast charge, you’ll notice that they’ve usually got big, there’s one right outside of our window here at the station, they’ve got big cables, usually big transformers and inverters and things that are near the charge station, and that’s usually a good indicator that that’s going to be a fast charge system. Otherwise, it’s 240, level 2. Okay.
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Okay, because, yeah, we actually, there’s a Airbnb right next to her that we rented. her house in Round Rock. So I could have charged off of that, but I just didn’t know.
SPEAKER 04 :
In that case, that one would have been free. You can’t legally, this is why I say it’s free, because you can’t legally resell electricity unless you’ve got one of these charge station arrangements and so on. But you as an individual can’t just resell electricity legally.
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Gotcha. Gotcha. And when you return the vehicle, do you have to return it fully charged?
SPEAKER 04 :
No. You can turn it. You can run it all the way down to where it’s got, you know. I had one I rented one time. I took it in. It had 15-mile range left.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s the one plus side they have over the gas side is you can run it all the way back empty, and they’re not charging anything for that.
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Right. So it’d probably be good to. Yeah, because I think it was. Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was just going to say the refill was $9.60 a gallon.
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That would have been worth it. Yeah, that’s where the EVs are nice to rent.
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I was going to say if you’re staying at a hotel, it’s probably good to talk to the hotel first before you go to your rental.
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Right. Yeah, and you can look online typically, and they’ll tell you if there’s a charge, a level two charger, and then you need to see how many are there. Because the one thing I’ve run into at hotels when you rent an EV is if there’s several others there, now you’re sharing and don’t hog it, you know, if once yours is full. Now, I’ve also learned at hotels you can cheat. You can typically find somewhere, underground parking, whatever, that’s got a 120-volt outlet someplace, and I’ve learned that you can take that charger out of the trunk, go find that outlet. Yeah. And go plug in, and people are thinking, well, what if somebody steals your cord? That’s the nice thing about EVs. When the car is off and locked, so is that charge cord. I mean, they could cut it off, but they can’t just unplug it.
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Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, okay. And how long is that cord? I mean, is it something you need to bring an extension cord with?
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Oh, no. Typically, that cord will be 20 foot or so.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, okay. Okay.
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Yeah.
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15 foot at least, something like that. I mean, if you get close enough, you either back in or pull in or whatever, and there’s an outlet there, you’ll have enough cord, not a problem. Nice.
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Okay. Good to know. I would have maybe changed my mind on what we did. I mean, it wasn’t that bad anyway. The worst problem was I picked up a screw going to the graduation. It was smack dab in the middle of the tread, but I was down to like 6 PSI by the time I got back.
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Gotcha. Now, that’s the one advantage that the EVs have is they all run run flats.
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Oh, okay. Well, and two, so like if – I mean, like when we went to Dallas last time, we rented a vehicle. We drove quite a bit, but like my daughter-in-law or my daughter and son-in-law did not. It would be perfect. Right. So if you’re only going – we went for a wedding for three days. They drove 50 miles. We drove 300. You would have never recharged. Right. Exactly. So that’s a good thing to keep in mind too. Yeah.
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And really quick, for everybody listening, Charlie, I want to make sure I said it. What’s a run flat? All EVs have run flat tires, meaning they don’t carry a spare because of weight and other things. And run flats, if they get a hole in it, they’ve got a sidewall configuration that enables you to drive on that flat until you can actually get it fixed up to, I don’t know what the miles are, Ken, but quite a ways, actually. Enough to where you can safely get to where you want to go and not have any problems on a run flat. You might damage that tire and have to replace it, but it will get you home. That’s right. Yep.
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buying a rental that’s, do they charge you for that?
SPEAKER 04 :
If you have a flat like that and you call them, they’ll come fix it typically.
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Yeah, well, I ran into that. I called them, and they said I could bring it to a discount that was nearby, but then I would have to leave, and it was around the time I needed to go pick up a dollar at the airport anyway, so I like to just to swap it. put on the donut and drove it to the airport and let it be their problem. Right. Have it be mine. But there were a couple trips, four trips to the airport altogether, I guess. So, yeah, that would have been good to know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, if you’re not driving more than probably 250, 300 miles or you don’t plan on driving that far, EV would be just fine. You wouldn’t have to worry about charging it at all. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, well, Thanks, guys. Good to know. Bounce of wisdom as usual.
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I appreciate you, Jeff, very much. Have a great rest of your day. We’ll take a timeout. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, something else that I should mention, because some of you are texting me right now with different things you might need help with in regards to finding parts and so on. This is something I should just say as a housekeeping issue. Please, if you ever need me to help you with finding a part or something along those lines, which I’m always willing to do. Sometimes I can help, sometimes I can’t. Sometimes I rely on guys like Pat and Ken to help me with some of this. And what helps us is VIN number. So year, car, VIN number, and I can get the year from the VIN, but it just automatically, if I can get year, make, model, and VIN, and of course mileage always helps us, but if you’ve got VIN number available for us trying to look up parts and so on, it helps out immensely because it’s one of the drivers. when it comes to finding a lot of these things. So if you’re ever looking for something and you want us to help you, please include your VIN number with that. You can even just send a picture of the VIN off of the door or the window plate, whatever you want to do along those lines, and it makes it really, really easy as far as that goes. So thank you for that. One thing I want to talk about, and I’ve got a couple of text messages. I’ll try to get to those two here quickly if I can. Let’s see here. Okay, so some of you are talking about remotes and so on, and I’ll get back to you on those things. This is something I wanted to talk about today, and I’ve got a little bit of timer before our next break. And the reason where this is coming from is I had a listener, one of you that’s listening, maybe today, maybe not, text me and ask me a series of questions. In this particular case, somebody was giving them a older hot rod, like a Model T frame, and this particular person had an engine. And the initial question was, how am I going to make all of this emissions legal when it’s all said and done? And here’s what my answer back was. And I was very serious in this. Number one, there’s a reason why they gave you the frame and the rolling chassis, basically. And I don’t know why you have the engine. That’s a whole other conversation. But the answer I had was it’s multi-part because, A, you’ve got to figure out how am I going to title this kit that I’ve got here, first of all. And on old Fords especially, there’s a couple of ways you can do that. You can either run it through as a kit car, go down, go through the whole process of getting with DMV and State Patrol and so on and getting it all done. Inspect it. Inspect it and getting the VIN number on it and so on and so forth. So that’s one way to do it. You can do it that way. Now, I will also say that that’s a – a very arduous process to get all of that done and it’s not something i would recommend the other option is go find and you can believe it or not ebay and other places you can there are titles that you can buy for old vehicles like this so you take like a 1928 you know model a or 1927 model t or a 32 ford or whatever believe it or not there are guys out there that have titles they can sell from vehicles that either were demolished or who knows what, but it’s a genuine, legit title. All you need to do then is go stamp this particular kit car you’re building with that VIN number and such on it, and you would be okay doing so. And I say be okay. Legally, I don’t know what all the ramifications are of that, but you could get it done if you did it that way. There would be no problems. You’ve got title and so on, and you’re marking it. And then emissions-wise, it would go off of what the title of the car is. That’s where I’m going with this, because the emissions then is going off of a 27 or a 28 or a 30 or a 32. It’s not going off of a new kit car, which that changes everything. Now, I say all of that to say this. We are now in a day and age with those era of cars, early Fords, even some of the early Chevys and so on, unless it’s a really, really unique car, But the type of car that this particular person was texting me on, you could literally go buy a completely done, painted, upholstered, set up, done, handled, ready to go for far less money than you could even take what he had and assemble it. And I even found a couple of examples, I think one example, and sent that back to him in a text message saying, you could go buy this car. I think I found a car that was like 14 grand. You could go buy this car for far less money than you could even take and assemble. Even if you’re doing all the labor yourself, you could go buy that car cheaper, already titled, ready to go. Drive it away. And drive it tomorrow. Versus what you will do with all of these parts you’ve now got hanging around in your garage or shop or whatever.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re spending… a quarter of what you would pay to put in.
SPEAKER 04 :
Unless you really like puzzles. Well, and where I’m going with this is a lot of the older hot rods, a lot of the older, and by the way, this is going to shock some of you, but you can take even some of the, like Chevrolets and such, even the 55, 56, and 57s are starting to go down in value. They’re not going up in value any longer. And here’s the reason why. It’s simple economics, supply and demand. When the buyers for those cars, are dying, like my dad’s generation, when there’s not as many of them around to buy, in their case, the early Fords, there becomes more supply because people are inheriting those cars or there’s just more cars in the marketplace. And the buyers for those cars, there’s less and less of. Well, guess what happens to the prices, guys? Sure. they naturally come down right so there is a lot of great deals on especially early fords i’m talking you know model a’s uh 32 fords 33 34 fours and right i see these all the time on marketplace and other places where literally you can buy a car that i am not exaggerating somebody’s probably invested 150 000 or more in right you can buy for 30 grand yeah all day long so my point is why would you build right one yourself right exactly knowing you could go and for far less money because even even taking a rolling chassis somebody has given you and assembling things and going through the interior and going through the exterior and the paint i mean folks this is not an exaggeration suspension just Just painting the car anymore is going to be, for a decent paint job, a minimum of $15,000. Right.
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Minimum.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can buy the car for not much more than that done. Just the paint. Right. You can’t buy the parts and do the assembly and even buy wheels and tires and the engine and the carburation and the exhaust and, and, and, and, and. Right. You start adding all that up, you can buy it. And some are thinking, well, that doesn’t make any sense. If everything costs more, then why doesn’t that car cost more? Because there’s more of them than people willing to buy them.
SPEAKER 05 :
There’s no demand.
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That’s right.
SPEAKER 05 :
If you’re looking for that car, you’re, you know, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, the plus side to this is there’s a lot of really great old, cool cars that have been done and put together really well that you could buy and go to a lot of these different events and have a blast with. For not a lot of investment.
SPEAKER 08 :
Interesting, as you point out, the passage of time. And while your dad might have valued a car like that at $100,000, your son might value it at $50,000 and his son might value it at $25,000. So they will decrease over time because that’s not cool to me.
SPEAKER 04 :
The only exception to this, and some of you are probably going to text me and say this, but let me go ahead and go there anyways. Unless it’s something where there’s some historical value to that car. Elvis Presley owned it, or in the case of we were talking to Jeff up in Montana, Clint Eastwood owned that car. Now we’re changing the dynamics because the car itself, it’s like a piece of art. The car now has something else associated with it that makes it worth more money. But unfortunately, John Rush owning the car does nothing to the value of. Because I’m not Clint Eastwood. I’m not Elvis Presley. And unless it’s somebody that’s that famous that is somehow adding value to the car, then there’s some additional added value that you’re not going to get anywhere else. And by the way, the exact same car that looks exactly like that one, that’s probably even a better car than that one, But doesn’t have that name associated with it will bring a fraction of the price of the one that has the history. Sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. So this is where I always win out because I am not a collector. I just want the car for the experience of going to the car show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Then go buy it and have fun. Exactly. And that’s what it boils down to. And two, you know, you look at some of these cars that are just built so nicely and stuff like that. To have $150,000 wrapped up in that, that’s minimal. Yeah. You know, you’re right.
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Yeah, absolutely. No, it is. I’ve got another example of that I can give when I come back. We’ll take a quick break. Lines are open 303-477-5600. Don’t go anywhere. We’ll come right back. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Myself, Pat Schneidt from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins and Ken Rackley, Toontech Automotive down here in Aurora. John in Loveland, you are next.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good afternoon. I have a 99 Suburban four-wheel drive 1500 with 230,000 miles on it. And over the past week, it has… displayed a problem of being able to take it out of park uh with increasing amount of pressure on the brake pedal and i’m questioning whether that is a mechanical linkage interlock or an electrical electric yeah so you have to push really hard on the brake pedal to get it to unlock yes okay yeah brake switch more than likely as or the solenoid the locking solenoid one or two yeah
SPEAKER 04 :
Easiest thing on that one, John, because they’re not very expensive and you could do this yourself is put a brake switch in it. They’re down underneath the column and really easy to install and not very expensive. And with that kind of miles, just put one in it. Yeah. See what it does.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. Also, as a side note, I had great experience with Ridgeline buying a used vehicle for my daughter.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 07 :
And those people are great to deal with.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you for that. Yeah, we’ll pass that along. They’re probably listening, but thank you for that. I appreciate that very much.
SPEAKER 07 :
You bet. Tessa was able to get all the complicated paperwork accomplished, and Justin answered all our technical questions well. that my mechanic had opposed to him. So it was a good experience.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s great. Well, we appreciate that. Thank you, John. Very good to know. You bet. You bet.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you guys for all you do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, thank you very much. Thanks for listening. We appreciate it. Really quick, jumping back to what we were talking before the break on, you know, classic type cars. And this is where especially, you know, Burke Payne, BP, auto appraisals, or he does appraisals in general, not just auto appraisals, but does other things as well. But When it comes to cars, he’ll help you with that. Whether it’s an accident and there’s diminished value and you need some help with that, he can definitely help on that side of it. But also on the classic car side, if you’re thinking, hey, I found a car. It’s a car I’ve always liked and I’ve always wanted and so on, and here’s what they’re asking. Burt can help you with whether it’s priced correctly or not. Sometimes he has to see the vehicle in person. Other times you could get a general idea through pictures whether you’re in the ballpark or not. But he’s got the ability to really help you with, is this vehicle priced right for what it is? And he’s also got enough experience because we talked to him enough to where he’ll be able to tell you, is this a car that’s going to go up in value? Or is this one that you can have a lot of fun, but you’re probably not going to make any money on this car. In fact, like any other car, it might cost you money to own and may become worth less and less as time goes by. But Kim was talking earlier how… Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whoever built it did everything top notch. It is perfect. It’s one of those cars that somebody at least has $150,000 in. The paint alone was probably $25,000, plus the interior, plus do an engine and transmission, the differential, and then having it all pinstriped, and it’s got flames on it, and, and, and, and. It’s got all this stuff on it, and bought that car for really a song when it was all said and done, a fraction of what somebody put in that car at one point in time. And the reality is those cars are available like that all over the Internet. And I’m not exaggerating. And will I make money on the car I bought? No, I will not. I will be lucky to get out of it what I paid for it, but we’ve had fun with it. My wife and I drive it around some, and we have a ball with it. We’ve been to some of the golden, you know, the first Saturday of the month, the golden run that they do and so on.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. The meet and greets.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and we’ve had a blast with it that way. But if you’re looking to buy one of those to make money, you probably won’t. But if you want to buy a car that you can own for not a lot of money and have a blast with and not have to mess with.
SPEAKER 05 :
Fix the little things that you don’t care for.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which I had to do on this car. There was a few little things wrong with it that I fixed. But other than that, go and have fun with it. My point is, rarely, unless it’s something where you just want to build a car for the experience of building a car, there’s no reason to build a car today. Right. Sorry. And sorry for some of you builders out there that are listening to me. There is no reason to build a car today.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re not building it to make money at that point.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re building it for your own personal way you want it.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right. Absolutely. Because of the changing demographics. That’s right. That’s exactly right. Paul in Black Forest, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hello, John. Happy Saturday. Thanks, Paul. Good to have you back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, sir. Always. Always.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ve got two different questions on the same deal. You know, I’ve talked to you many times. I’ve got a little home shop. I work on friends, family, that kind of stuff. Thanks to our previous administration, people have less disposable income to pay shop rates and all that. So I’ve got more work than I can do. I guess I work too cheap.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
But I’ve got a 2018… Hyundai Santa Fe, it’s got the rear-wheel drive. It’s basically a front-wheel drive car. Rear-wheel drive will not engage in the snow or anything else. It doesn’t give me any clear codes, and I can find no mechanical issues underneath. Around the Black Forest, you’ve got every kind of critter on the planet. No chewed wires, no bad sensors, no codes, but it will not engage the rear wheel when she gets stuck in the snow. Anybody else? with those things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Never run into that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Got about 115,000 on it.
SPEAKER 04 :
If I’m not mistaken, those are, because I know a little bit about the Hyundai Kia all-wheel drive end of things, that’s got an electronically controlled lock-up viscous coupler, if I’m not mistaken, that handles the engagement of that rear. You’ve got to make sure all that’s working properly. That’s the one thing I do know about those.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and that’s, I think, the only code I got out of it. It’s been a couple months now since I looked at it, and I think that’s the only code I got was a sensor code and then something for the module.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and the other thing I know about those vehicles is if it senses something is off, in other words, if it’s got a wheel sensor that’s not picking up or something along those lines, it will not engage because it will have no control and it just won’t. It’s got a feature in it, Paul, where if there’s something awry, it just won’t engage it, period. Right. It’ll defeat the option. That’s right. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it’s kind of stumped me. If I had a wheel sensor, then I should get an ABS light as well, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Depends. Depends.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I would tend to think so, but… Not always. Not always, right, if it’s a…
SPEAKER 04 :
And what I mean by that is there’s parameters for each one of those systems. So let’s just say, for example, Paul, that the ABS has X parameter and it’s still within the guidelines to make it operate, but the all-wheel drive portion has a tighter parameter and it’s outside of that window. It may not let the all-wheel drive portion engage or lock in, I should say, but yet the ABS will still work properly. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it makes perfect sense because if you’re going very, very slowly, the ABS isn’t really interested. Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. That’s right.
SPEAKER 10 :
If you’re trying to get the four-wheel drive to engage just putting down a dirt road that’s a foot deep of snow, it’s not going.
SPEAKER 04 :
So the way, as you know, the way they program those things, and these guys know this as well, every one of those systems may have a little bit different parameter that it’s looking at. And, again, unless it gets way outside of the ABS parameter, it may not turn the light on.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
What’s weird, though, is sometimes, and again, I don’t know the Hyundai end of it as well as you do some of the other vehicles, but typically it will turn some sort of a light on saying, hey, this is out of whack. But if it’s just on the outside edge of it, it may not.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Yes. It hasn’t hit the threshold.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Yeah. Exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. So I guess I wait until it snows and plug in my scanner and get live codes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that’s probably, you know, or figure out a way to get some slippage in it where you could check it that way.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
I can get it on the lift and get all four wheels off the ground. I don’t know if that would help diagnose it or not.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t either. With no resistance, I don’t know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, because your fronts are going to start turning before your rears and then it’ll… It’s all weird on a lift. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
But back to your point, John, with that coupler, with a scan tool, you might be able to engage and disengage that coupler to verify that it’s working.
SPEAKER 04 :
Again, I’ve never worked on too many Hyundai all-wheel drives in my career, so that one is beyond my scope, Paul.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, well, if we’ve got time, I’ll throw the second one at you. That’s an old Chevy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Those are easy.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ve got another guy, a new driver inherited grandma’s 2002 Chevy Trailblazer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
All it’s got is a service four-wheel drive light. Same thing, I’ve inspected everything external you can and changed all the fluids in the thing, of course. Grandma was a little behind on her maintenance.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
But I do get codes for that for 0300 prop shaft sensor. And then, oddly enough, left rear wheel sensor missing. Well, yeah, it is because they don’t have rear wheel sensors. They’ve got three sensors on the… Yeah, it won’t engage.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can tell you right now, that won’t engage if that one’s out for sure on that car.
SPEAKER 10 :
The rear prop sensor?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I do the wheel sensor first before I do anything else. The prop sensor is probably internal, by the way. That’s being picked up through the reluctor wheel inside.
SPEAKER 05 :
Rear differential.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
On that one, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
I didn’t see any sensors on the diff like the old days with the rear wheel only anti-lock, nor did I see anything going to the wheels.
SPEAKER 05 :
Pretty sure.
SPEAKER 10 :
They do have three pickups. They’re all identical. I pulled them all out and stuck an ohmmeter on them. They have three sensors. On the transfer case, they’re just Hall effect switches.
SPEAKER 04 :
That one, I think, and Ken, you would know this better than I, but I thought on that one, on an 02, that the reluctor wheel’s inside the quote-unquote transaxle.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or the transfer case.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that’s a weird T case in that one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that’s got that inline 4.2 in a regular transfer case.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that’s got a 4L60.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I thought the reluctor wheel’s on the back output shaft.
SPEAKER 05 :
It must be, yeah, because I don’t remember seeing anything because I had an O2 also on void. But I had to replace the 4×4 switch on ours twice.
SPEAKER 04 :
That can be an issue too, yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
But according to the code that I retrieved, it directed me right to that.
SPEAKER 04 :
The other things that those were well-known for, Paul, was the actual control module that controlled all of that. Those were on those trailblazers because, if I’m not mistaken, they sit under the seat and they can get wet.
SPEAKER 05 :
The rear fuse box, right, exactly. The rear fuse box is under the back seat, and I had to replace that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so that’s another area to look at, Paul, on those.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I did check the fuse boxes and all. I found a blown fuse for something else, but not that. But the last code I did get was 0550 for the ECU. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. And has that gone away or no?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I reset it. It comes right back on.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So that would be the one checking into because something’s probably not getting power like it should or something. Right. Powering something up and it shouldn’t.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is the four-wheel drive controlled by the ECU, the main control unit, or is it a separate module?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it controls the transmission control module, which I believe controls all the four-wheel drive mechanisms. Am I right on that, Ken?
SPEAKER 05 :
I can’t remember on that one.
SPEAKER 04 :
The TCCM, if I’m not mistaken. Right. The ECU, of course, is going to control the talk to, I should say, the TCCM.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it’s got to provide signal. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Exactly, and they run some of the stuff kind of like the Chryslers do through the fuse box, but I don’t think there’s a separate module in there other than just power supply in that fuse box. But, yeah, I don’t know that they run a separate four-wheel drive module other than the transfer case.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, even the ECU is probably going to be a bit of a challenge to find on a 22-year-old car.
SPEAKER 05 :
You have to fix it. Yeah, you have to send out and fix it. Yeah, just send that out and have it fixed, yeah. Yeah, if that’s what it’s going to.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. I won’t ask John about his favorite kind of vehicle on my old RV.
SPEAKER 04 :
What is it?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, it’s AC electrical problem. Ah, gotcha, gotcha.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, that’s something you’ll have to figure out.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t want to bore you with that stuff. I know how much you love RVs. I think that’s the only thing you don’t own.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s the only thing I don’t own. You are correct. Absolutely. Paul, I’ve got to run to break. Thanks, man. Appreciate you very much. We’ll take our last break. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Got a 1947 Ford. My dad drug it home in 1976. Did a little bit of work, then we threw it out in the backyard for a while.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
I moved it into my garage and got a salvage title or a bond title, 1991. And I’m getting the thing completed, and they’re telling me I have to go get a certified VIN inspection, and I have to stamp the words, rebuilt from salvage. I have to stamp that onto the body on the doorpost.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that seems like something that’s a fairly new requirement. I’ve never heard of it before. And it seems like it’s sacrilege to damage a nice paint job.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I would agree. I wouldn’t. Again, this is me advising. I’m not an attorney. This is not my legal advice or anything like that. I would go out on the Internet and I would try to buy another undamaged 1947 Ford title because back then they were all done off of the engine number versus VIN numbers anyways and not that hard to find one of those. I would go find another title that’s not that way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, the title I have right now is based on a VIN number that’s stamped onto the frame.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which you can change pretty easily. Again, you didn’t hear this from me, but those can be changed pretty easily.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s the least of your worries. It’s the title itself that’s the problem. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
What I was thinking of doing is just go register it or title it in a different state.
SPEAKER 04 :
You could do that as well. You could even do the South Dakota thing I was mentioning that you could do also. The dirt legal, you could go that route also.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And then retitling it in Colorado.
SPEAKER 04 :
It would be easy then.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you wouldn’t have to do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
But I’d just leave it that way. Don’t worry about it.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
But I was just wondering if you knew when that got implemented.
SPEAKER 04 :
That I have no idea. That is news to me.
SPEAKER 05 :
I remember about 10 years ago that a customer requested me to do that with some number stamps and stuff like that. And I wouldn’t go that route, Dan.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’d figure out a way around it. Yeah, that was 10 years ago. I wouldn’t stamp the car that way.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s what I’m saying.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because it’s not. I get where they’re going with that reasoning and why they want that done, but that’s not your car. That’s not what’s happened here. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it’s for some of the cars that get totaled or whatever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Makes total sense.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I can understand it.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right. Not in this case.
SPEAKER 06 :
For a 47 Ford that I’ve had, you know, for 35 years. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dan, with that, I’ve got to run. Any other questions, send me a text or an email. I appreciate it very much. Pat from Fort Collins, thank you. Alltech Automotive. Pleasure. Thanks for having us. Ken, you as well. Thank you very much. Always good to be here. You guys that are listening, if you want to get a hold of Pat or Ken or anybody else that’s affiliated with our program, shops, or other sponsors, just go to drive-radio.com. Larry and Charlie, thank you guys as well. Have a great rest of your weekend. Enjoy the sunshine. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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