Join us as we dive into a nostalgic exploration of cinematic classics such as ‘Jaws’ and ‘The Terminator’, reflecting on their lasting impact and the evolution of technology in film-making. Despite decades since their release, these films continue to provoke fear and admiration, reminding us of the timeless art of anticipation and storytelling. As we delve into the technical challenges faced by filmmakers of the past compared to today’s CGI spectacles, we find ourselves reminiscing about the artful suspense crafted by legends like Spielberg and Cameron.
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Recognize it? Of course. What is it, the 50th anniversary?
SPEAKER 03 :
50th anniversary of Jaws. Terrified me. Was 15-year-old Mike Gallagher in a theater seat? Oh, yeah. So, yeah. Scared me to death. Have you revisited?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I haven’t seen it in years, but I remember… It’s ridiculous.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s ridiculous. It’s cheesy, right? Because, first of all, with computer-generated this and CGI that, the ability to have incredible reality just makes everything from the past look silly. But, of course, the acting is still great. Roy Scheider is still great. Richard Dreyfuss, the great Robert Shaw. Farewell, and adieu, dear Spanish ladies. It’s a fantastic film. And the genius of it… Is you didn’t see the shark for forever. You know why? Anticipation of the shark. Oh, because Bruce wasn’t working. Right. Bruce was the shark and they were having huge technical problems.
SPEAKER 04 :
They had all kinds of technical problems. So Spielberg improvised. He said, well, look, we’ll just make it, you know, like the theater of the mind.
SPEAKER 03 :
We’ll make people worry about what’s out there. And man, did it work. And speaking of old, let me give you something that does not hold up well. And it just, it was on. I said, let me watch three minutes of this. Watch the entire two hours. Revisited the original Terminator. I’ll be back with Arnold and Linda Hamilton. It’s iconic. It’s one of the great films of my lifetime. And it’s so cheesy. And the acting is so… So horrible. But it’s James Cameron’s first work. And it’s but but you don’t care because it’s just such a part of your. But here’s the thing. Last thing on this. I’ve got a few things in the news to talk about. But, you know, the whole premise. First of all, you know, the whole premise of Terminator is it starts out. You’re in some distant future, some dystopian future with lasers. And you know what year that is? 2025. 2027. Wow. Exactly. It’ll be like Trump’s term now. It’s like, wait a minute, what? But the other thing, I forget what the other thing was. Oh, the very premise. How did things go so horribly wrong? How did the future become so terrible? Right. Computers. Yep. So, Reese, you know, whoever the Michael Biehn character is describing this to Sarah Calder said, what happened is we made these machines and they got smarter than us and they started to take over and we didn’t want them to take over. And we were at war with the robots. It’s what’s happening. It’s AI. The movie is prescient. It’s exactly what we all fear.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what I watched last night? I watched the Bob Dylan biopic with Timothee Chalamet.
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And you know what?
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m not a big Dylan guy. Never have been. But I am now. In fact, actually, if Bob Dylan really sang the way Timothee Chalamet did, I’d like his music. Because he sings better.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, I think he was he hosted or was the musical guest on SNL a few and did like some Dylan songs. Yeah. And was so, so true to them. And he’s an incredible actor.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can we tip the hat to actors today? You know, we may we bag on Hollywood, but you think about it back in the day. If they did a movie like that, well, they would just dub in Bob Dylan’s voice. These actors today are expected to inhabit and absolutely own the part, and this kid sings like Bob Dylan.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ve heard it’s great. Oh, I loved it.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was kind of a weird build-up. It kind of boils down to whether or not he’s going to sing the things that he became famous for, blow into the wind and everything, at the Newport Folk Festival, or would he introduce the more electric guitar, which he did. But the crowd, well, you know, this is stupid. This is idiotic. I don’t know how this ends because I’m at the part where he does that and he’s playing with the electric guitar in front of the Newport Folk Festival and the executives are screaming in the background. They’re mad at him. And the crowd is throwing objects at him because they hate it because it’s not Joan Baez, you know, and Peter Paul. But I don’t know how it ends because the flight finally landed that I was four hours late on.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was going to say, did you watch this on the plane at 11 o’clock last night?
SPEAKER 04 :
I was on the plane, and I decided not to watch it until it took off. It was so weird. Air travel today. We got on the plane. Pilots said, okay, we’re good to go. Now we’ve got a two-hour delay. You can get off the plane.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, no. I didn’t know that you had boarded, and then they yanked you off the plane. This is from trying to get from Tampa to LaGuardia. You were due to come out at 3 o’clock, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Three times they did that. Three times, everybody gets on the plane. Then he says, whoops, we’ve got a two-hour delay. You can get off the plane. Everybody gets off the plane. Then we’re getting ready to go. It’s going to be 5 o’clock. Get on the plane. Whoops, we’ve got another two hours. Get off the plane. It was unbelievable. And, you know, I’ve got to hand it to people. People were pretty calm and normal. And, you know, when these travel things happen, they happen. Nobody went nuts. You know, nothing you can do. By the way, I also want to add.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s weather. How do you not know? I mean, I understand weather delays, but don’t you kind of know?
SPEAKER 04 :
What they were saying is storms were blowing up in LaGuardia, and we’re sitting on the runway in Tampa. Well, when LaGuardia does a ground stop, then it suspends stuff leaving Tampa, I guess. By the way, can we just take a moment and salute technology before we get into all the other, you know, the world coming to an end with World War III.
SPEAKER 03 :
AirPods.
SPEAKER 04 :
Are they not the best invention since the remote control for the TV?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, especially on a plane because I’ve got cords all over the place. Everywhere. And I try to get up to go to the bathroom and I strangle myself. Everywhere.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m listening to you this morning. I mean, I’m walking. I took the subway today. I’m in New York. It’s a crisp, cool morning here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure you did.
SPEAKER 04 :
I did. I took the subway. Are you insane?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it’s fine. So while the AirPods are in, you can hear my show while you’re being stabbed by a vagrant.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. I’m being lit on fire. I can hear you talk and do a musical birthday. It’s really a good way to go. And I do want to apologize as I listen to the app, as I always do. It must be so jarring for people to turn on the Mark Davis show and hear a 30 or 60 second commercial entirely in Spanish.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t know how that happens.
SPEAKER 04 :
They’re called programmatic ads, and we have no say in it, apparently. It’s the way they get inserted by a third-party provider. For the record, neither Mark or I or the station have anything to do with that. But it’s weird. Like, why would you even do it? Why don’t we just have something in Mandarin, you know? I know. I get there’s a lot of Hispanic people in the world. Farsi. Why not? What happened to diversity, right? I know. And people get mad at us. I get these text messages. Mike, do you know why I’m listening to Mark and Mike? Let’s start with Gavin Newsom. This is something that is such an intriguing habit that the Democrats have that just drive me crazy. They lose big time and make no mistake, when the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals rules in favor of Donald Trump. Unanimous. You know that’s pretty profound, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
This is about his ability to keep control of the National Guard in California.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. And they were unanimous. Did you see what Gavin Newsom posted?
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SPEAKER 04 :
Now, is he just nuts? And I guess this is gaslighting. I guess that’s what this means. He posted at midnight last night. Donald Trump is not a king and not above the law. Tonight, the court rightly rejected Trump’s claim that he can do whatever he wants with the National Guard and not have to explain himself to a court. We will not let this authoritarian use of military soldiers against citizens go unchecked. Wait a minute. You lost.
SPEAKER 03 :
What do you mean the court? He went for a technicality, which is in there. The court said Trump absolutely gets to keep control of the National Guard. He was completely justified in calling him in. He totally, absolutely did properly notify the state through the proper authorities and channels. So win, win and win. But in there, in the ruling, it said this doesn’t mean that Trump can do anything he wants at any time without telling the state. But on this, he’s on solid ground. So Newsom went into the technicality and said, the court has ruled in my favor on this one little minuscule point.
SPEAKER 04 :
What a moron. And then the other thing I was thinking about, I think I texted this to you yesterday, and I’ve been giving this a lot of thought. I said, if we were half the men we used to be, we’d be willing to tackle the drama behind Juneteenth. And then I thought, why not? We are at least half the men we used to be. Why not tackle Juneteenth?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because I think I’m 110 percent of the man I used to be.
SPEAKER 04 :
You are 150. I’m 30.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t even. So between us, we’re two. But we’re almost one person. Here’s what Trump said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Here’s what he did last night. And many think he’s right. Too many non-working holidays in America. It’s costing our country billions of dollars to keep all of these businesses closed. The workers don’t want it either. I’m not sure that’s entirely true, but maybe. Soon we’ll end up having a holiday for everyone’s working day of the year. It must change if we’re going to make America great again. I forgot that Juneteenth is actually a federal holiday? No.
SPEAKER 03 :
just from a couple years ago.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now look, there’s nothing wrong with celebrating and honoring the good news.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it’s a remarkable holiday. It has huge significance. It’s an amazing… I enjoy the observance of it, but we have enough federal holidays. You know what my genius idea was? In order to prevent the optics of just getting rid of Juneteenth, it’s like throw people a bone, let’s also get rid of Labor Day, which is meaningless.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, speaking of holidays and the 4th of July, you see these dummies are going to do another No Kings on the 4th of July. Well,
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, that’ll work out well. Oh, no. Why do they want to beg? They got on TV. It was like a rock of crack. They paid attention to us. We’re just a bunch of old white leftist dorks, and we got on TV. Yay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Pathetic. I don’t make it a habit of watching Stephen Colbert’s clips. Wisely. Tracy gave me a clip this morning of Colbert bagging on Trump’s announcement that, look, he’s going to, within two weeks, he’s going to. Why are you rooting against the country? You know, remember after 9-11, Democrats didn’t bag on Bush. Democrats lifted him up. President Bush was saluted for that inspirational bullhorn speech on the pile. You know, and now the Stephen Colberts and all of them, the Democrats are all lining up, rooting against him and then therefore rooting for us to fail. And what do you want to do? What are you going to do if, God forbid, Iran nukes, you know, Austin, Texas? Then you’re going to blast Trump? Trump didn’t start this war. Trump didn’t massacre people. It’s just so frustrating for me, Mark, to watch the way they just seem to want the entire country to go up in flames.
SPEAKER 03 :
Trump hatred guides everything. It absolutely guides everything. So as this week winds down, do you find yourself… becoming slowly, grudgingly, I would say comfortable, nobody’s comfortable, confident about the notion of an American crew and an American bomber dropping a big American bomb on that Nordo nuclear.
SPEAKER 04 :
Did you see who the latest person was to come out against that? General Mike Flynn. Mike Flynn is now saying, bad idea. We should rethink this.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s kind of the Tucker wing of things. So, okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
We know how you feel about Tucker. Yes, you do. About 30 seconds, I’ll be called a bow tie sniffer. Exactly. In fact, I saw a poll this morning that said, all right, I don’t know if I can use it. I think I can use this word. The poll question one was a picture of Tucker Carlson. All right, let’s dive in. Is he a hero or a douchebag? That was the question. And B was kind of winning. B had a slight… And I didn’t even vote yet. Oh, I know. Well, you’d vote 20 times if you had the chance. But you know something? One of the posts I saw was a great answer. And you know what it was? It’s not a binary choice. He’s a smart, unique, funny guy, wonderful guy. But we all have quirks and traits and failings. And there are a lot of people who agree with him. I think Charlie Kirk is really against blowing up Fordo. I think Charlie, who I really admire deeply, if I get the if I’m reading, I haven’t heard all of his shows, but he seems to he’s he’s saying right now Trump is advocating for a negotiation. Blessed are the peacemakers. Well, Mark, shouldn’t we all want that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. But my favorite thing is for the looming notion of rubble at Fordo hanging over the heads of the Iranian mullahs that they somehow decide to come to a bargaining table within this two week period. Yeah, but I am not hopeful of.
SPEAKER 04 :
But here’s what I’m also not hopeful, and we can end on this very negative, pessimistic note. And again, I hope I don’t go up in flames on the A train later today. Are we hoping that the mullahs will change their minds about death to America and death to the Jews?
SPEAKER 03 :
They won’t.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that going to happen? No. So then guess what? Then you’ve got to take them out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Or neuter them so efficiently that they can have those views and stew in that hatred, but it just doesn’t matter because they won’t be able to do anything.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly. No, that’s true. Good point. All right. Well, onward and upward. Happy Friday.
SPEAKER 03 :
End of the weekend. 30 seconds. Going to catch any shows over the weekend?
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you know me? I do. What do you think? What’s on the slate? Cabaret tonight. I love Eva.
SPEAKER 03 :
Money makes the world go round. Oh, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s a really dark, cool production. It’s one of my favorite shows. And then tomorrow night, were you a fan of Stranger Things? Oh, please. Of course. All right, well, there’s a Broadway production of Stranger Things.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s weird. Did they need to do that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it’s not a musical, I don’t think, but it’s apparently really, really cool technically and a bunch of special effects.
SPEAKER 03 :
Report back on Monday.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’ll give you a full Broadway mic. We’ll check in Monday. Love you. Have a great weekend.
SPEAKER 03 :
Have a fantastic weekend. Your weekend begins with our Friday shows, and Mike’s ready to roll at 10 o’clock as soon as we’re done.
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