In this episode, John Rush explores controversial topics ranging from the sustainability and financial implications of electric vehicles to the privatization of essential services. A vibrant discussion unfolds as the guests weigh the benefits and drawbacks of letting private companies handle functions typically reserved for government entities. Tying it all together is a listener’s unique perspective on the contentious subject of tobacco use and its misunderstood health impacts.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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And we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, and Ben from Evergreen. Go ahead, sir. Thanks for hanging on.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. You know, I heard you guys comment on federal subsidies. Yes. And I’m like, why did it take a guy with common sense – that used to run garages or car repair, to tell me that. I mean, I thought that way forever.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, mechanics know everything, Ben. Good one, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
So he thinks, or so you think. Well, I think you can learn, no matter what you do, You can learn from it. I don’t care what it is. You can start out, like, mowing lawn.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
And then you can learn about small engines or graphs and everything. But regardless, you know, I’m not all opposed to big government sponsoring something when it works.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 15 :
Like NASA. They’ve got a good rate of return on all kinds of stuff.
SPEAKER 13 :
But think about this, Ben. True, and I think they started a lot of that, and it probably would have been really hard to have done without government intervention back in the day. Getting a private company to do what NASA did probably would have been difficult. that it’s rolling look at the bigger bang for the buck that we’re actually getting out of paying spacex a private company to do what nasa was doing prior the last time i checked and somebody can look this up and text me back if you’d like but the last time i checked spacex is doing our you know our satellite missions and things like that that we’re getting now charged for as taxpayers we’re doing that for about a fifth, Ben, of what NASA was charging us as taxpayers. In other words, the bill to SpaceX is about a fifth of what it would have been if NASA was doing it.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that’s fine. You know, transfer all these technologies.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 15 :
When, where, and how appropriate. And with that stuff, I always want to know the basics. What’s it going to cost? Who’s going to pay? What’s the rate of return? And, you know, when you come, say, to roads and bridges, It’s probably not all that bad, you know, and just different things.
SPEAKER 13 :
Actually, and really quick, Ben, I’m sorry, I’m way off. I’m way off. I just looked it up. So NASA’s Space Launch System, their SLS, is estimated to cost over $2 billion per launch. SpaceX advertises their Falcon 9 launches for $62 million. It’s way less than a fifth.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, attention Kmart shoppers. Exactly. Let’s get the good deals and keep them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Think of that really quick, Ben, and I agree with you. If we had them in for NASA, we wouldn’t have gotten where we are today, and SpaceX wouldn’t even be able to do what they’re doing. So I’m not saying that that was a bad thing. But, yes, it’s definitely a time to make that transition to where you could privatize it, which is exactly what we’ve done. And look at the dollar difference, $62 million a launch versus $2 billion a launch.
SPEAKER 06 :
But this begs the question, what else would you privatize?
SPEAKER 13 :
Me, personally?
SPEAKER 06 :
I would a lot.
SPEAKER 13 :
Everything I possibly could.
SPEAKER 06 :
But I’m just literally asking both you and Ben, what do you think we should privatize next? Where would you go next?
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I think it’s case by case.
SPEAKER 06 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 15 :
Like the post office. They were going to privatize that, I remember, a study, whatever, 20, 30 years ago.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, they tried it, and it’s like, you know, they tried it with some maintenance things, and it’s like, we’re better off just doing our own maintenance in-house on this stuff But when and where, again, when I say case by case, you’ve got to have a business manager. In fact, I checked in at one point with, there was a girl named Brown, down at the Postal Annex, last name, of course. And she was interested in some automation. So they’re not totally dense, totally stupid, but would it work? You know, you’ve got to have solutions that match the problem. And a lot of times, these regulators and congresspeople, they’re like, well, our solution is really to maintain power, and we do that with money and regulation and taxes and laws. So I think I’ll bet you probably 50% of what the feds do and 50% of what the state does You could probably get by without or reduction somewhere in there.
SPEAKER 13 :
This was a great, you know, what I just gave you as an exercise was a great example. For all of you listening, by the way, I just did the math, Ben, when you were talking. Elon Musk is doing that for 3% of what NASA used to do.
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3%.
SPEAKER 13 :
Not 30.
SPEAKER 1 :
3%.
SPEAKER 15 :
And as much as I like Musk and what he’s done, and I’ve said this before in your show, I’m not a battery operated car guy. Right. I get it. I’ve done the energy equations on batteries. They’re getting 30, 40 miles per gallon. You can do that. Oh, you’re right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Ben, that’s another one where the public has been totally misled on what an actual EV gets on a per-mile basis. And, number one, most have never done the math. They buy it because at one point in time they thought they were saving the planet by buying them, and nothing could have been farther from the truth. There’s a lot of guys like myself even where, you know, the performance and that end of it far exceeds anything else you’ll drive. You’re definitely not, to your point, Ben, you’re not saving any money at the end of the day. You can put a lot of fuel into a regular ICE engine vehicle and still be ahead at the end of the day, despite what those in government will tell you.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re paying a lot of money to lug a lot of… Heavy batteries around. Yeah, they’re heavy. Made by windmills that don’t work.
SPEAKER 13 :
Really quick, I was going to say this on Drive Radio this weekend, but Ben, let me share this with you. I’ll do this before we get to Drive Radio. So I changed the rotate of the tires on my wife’s car this last week, and she was like, man, you think I should rotate these tires? I’m like, I don’t pay attention. It’s her car. I don’t really pay much attention to it. She’s been driving the Equinox EV, the Chevy Equinox EV, which we have. And I’m like, yeah, we probably should go ahead and rotate tires. It’s got like 9,000 miles or something on it. Let’s go ahead and do that. And it’s the first time I’d even messed with the car as far as any of that goes. So I get it in the back of my shop at home, and I get it all jacked up, and I start changing tires out. And I’m looking at the wheels and the hub mechanism and the rotors and such, and I’m like, this thing’s got basically the same equipment that my 1500 Silverado has, full-size truck, in a small SUV because, Ben, of the weight factor you just mentioned.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yeah, I’ve got to talk some common sense into you and your girl about that.
SPEAKER 13 :
They’re heavy. And again, I’ve known that since the beginning, the weight factor. And most people don’t realize that a Tesla weighs the same as an F-150.
SPEAKER 15 :
So before we run out of time, I’m sure you brought up Trump in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, we did. We did that in the first hour, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Happily. But I come down on, you know, enough is enough. We’d been beat up by them. You know, there was the Iran hostage thing. There was Nightline. You know, nobody on the media. That’s how Nightline got started, was over the Iran hostage thing. And that guy, Ted Koppel, made probably jillions off his show. Not a bad guy for mainstream media. Not all that good either. He was a little too liberal for me.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, he was liberal, but he had a very good delivery, I’ve got to say. He was smooth. But go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Leave it. We’ve been pussyfooting around with them. And it’s like a bully in a schoolyard. At a certain point, you go, it’s on. Let’s go. And finally, tomorrow, are you going to have that woman Kelly?
SPEAKER 13 :
Dr. Kelly and Steve on? Yes, absolutely. Tomorrow I will have them on. Or no, sorry, that’s Thursday. Thursday first hour. Thursday first hour, Ben. My bad.
SPEAKER 15 :
If I don’t have a chance to call in, you tell her that this pain-in-the-butt guy, Ben… said that he was checking on some stuff about tobacco, which I was using during the pandemic. And it helped my health. And there was another guy just ran into and he’s some neural, not neural, but endocrinologist, doctor, PhD, MD. And he was talking about how tobacco patches, lower inflammation, And tobacco is not – and I’m that one guy that will double-check on everything and anything until I get the answers that fit. And I think he’s on to something. And if I don’t get a chance to call in on Thursday – I just put it in my notes. I did.
SPEAKER 13 :
I just stuck it in my notes, Ben. I will ask for sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Are you saying I need to start smoking?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I already smoke. I shouldn’t, but I do have a cigar.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ben, I have absolutely nothing against smoking at all. It doesn’t bother me at all. I just never have.
SPEAKER 15 :
I understand. And I do it to kind of take off the edge a little bit. And I think, you know, it’s like I’m not recommending anybody start. I’m not saying it’s great for me. Right. But pure nicotine, it’s in vegetables, it turns out. A lot of them, not all of them, like… It’s not particularly addictive, but some of the tar, you know, I will say this, when I smoke a cigar, I get a nice buzz. I like that. And every now and then, I’ll have a drink. And, you know, they say people that drink have lower incidences of cancer and heart disease in moderation.
SPEAKER 06 :
Are these cigars from Columbia?
SPEAKER 15 :
Colombiano, amigos. Okay, there we go. You were just saying you get a buzz. I was wondering. No, most of them are from a region in Nicaragua called Estella. And there’s something about, I don’t know what it is, their climate, their soils, their techniques. And it just enhances the flavor. And I actually have become a cigar snob. I used to think people would go, oh, it’s got a walnut flavor with some oak. And I’d think, you idiot, what is wrong with you? And now… Now you do.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’m like… Now I’m like… Now you get it. You’re like Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, you get it now. That’s funny.
SPEAKER 15 :
And so… But I want her to do the homework if she wants to.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’ll ask. No, I will definitely ask, Ben. Absolutely. I will do that.
SPEAKER 15 :
And if she’s listening now…
SPEAKER 13 :
She’s not. She’s at patients and other things, so she won’t be. But I will ask, and we’ll get that handled. It’s not a problem.
SPEAKER 15 :
And having said that, I think she’s a really bright woman, you know, and really knows her stuff.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’d just like to see her broad horizons on tobacco. Okay. And I got another supplement, which shall remain secret until she checks this out.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. I will find out, Ben. Good stuff.
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Take care, guys.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush. And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, I wanted to ask you this earlier and I forgot. Sure. How are you surviving World War III?
SPEAKER 13 :
Are you doing all right? Yeah, I don’t know. I didn’t sleep much last night, Andy, thinking about it. I mean, do you have a bunker? I was struggling last night.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now that Trump has put us into World War III, I just want to know, are you getting along? Do you believe in any kind of a future?
SPEAKER 13 :
Unbelievable, Andy. These people. There’s one thing. I have not lost an ounce, one ounce of sleep over. Not an ounce, Andy. Not announced.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, you can just see in advance. You and I, we were texting back and forth. We could just see in advance with Tucker going nuts and all of these libertarians going nuts. And once again, we get to talking to a lot of them. A surprising number hate Jews. Okay, that’s a whole different thing. And a lot of Tucker’s guests do not like Jews. But setting that aside, you could just tell guys, you’re going to look so bad if this works out. And it’s probably going to work out. He’s going to take because you knew full well that Trump was just going to take out some nuke sites and make us safer and that this wasn’t going to start a war. Oh, yes, it will, because then they’re going to respond with what? Look, my biggest concern is because of Biden letting so many of them in that we that we’ve got terror cells in here in America. But you know what? They’re going to do damage anyway.
SPEAKER 13 :
True.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I just wanted to ask you how you’re holding up. Because I care about you, John. So far, so good. I care about you. I care about your wife, the missus.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I was worried about you. So far, so good. Yeah, I can honestly say, and I did get a lot of questions from listeners early in the show yesterday asking that very subject. Am I changing anything? Am I going to do anything different with coming and going from the station and this, that, and the other? And am I worried about the Iran sleeper cells and this, that, and the other? And I’m like, yeah, no.
SPEAKER 06 :
The only thing I would do, and I did recommend this to my wife. She works downtown. Keep your head on a swivel.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
There are going to be some who are going to be knifing people and doing some of this stuff. That’s probably going to happen. Look, they’re going to act out.
SPEAKER 13 :
But am I changing any of my patterns or anything I plan on doing for fun? No.
SPEAKER 06 :
No. I wonder if AOC is going to go to Iran and, you know, surrender. We give up.
SPEAKER 13 :
You beat us. We have no choice but to surrender. I mean, sorry to go here, but we got to go here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
If that were my side, I mean, I already criticized Marjorie Taylor Greene. I’ll criticize as needed. And she’s a knucklehead at times as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, and what’s his name, the guy in the house who drives us nuts? Massey.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, Massey.
SPEAKER 06 :
What a— Just be quiet.
SPEAKER 13 :
He was acting like World War III was coming. Just go away. But go ahead. Thomas Massey, go away.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, please.
SPEAKER 13 :
I will say, even with their faults, Massey’s and even Marjorie Taylor, MTG, whatever you call her, neither one hold a candle to the poster child of the Democrat Party, that being AOC. Right. Can anybody be any dumber, Andy, than she is?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, what’s her name from Texas?
SPEAKER 13 :
That new one? Oh, what starts with a C?
SPEAKER 06 :
Jasmine Crockett.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, she’s about as dumb. They’re equally dumb.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they’re equally dumb.
SPEAKER 13 :
Charlie loves her eyelashes. She has eyelashes that, you know, if she ran fast enough, she’d fly. The funny thing is, all over social media, everybody’s making fun of those things. So it’s like you just take them off or go small, whatever. I mean, you know, the go big, go home thing. I think she already got that mastered, Andy. But between those two. And AOC being more of a frontrunner because she’s been there, I believe this is – isn’t she a sixth term? Is AOC four or six terms? I can’t remember.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t know. I think it’s four.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, four terms. She’s way ahead of Crockett. But again, at the end of the day, AOC fighting with Donald Trump, Andy, that is – let me see if I can compare this to something. That’s like me from drive radio and all the car experience and everything else that I have. That’s like talking to someone that doesn’t have a driver’s license. Yeah, it is. Is that a good comparison? Yes, it is. Somebody’s never driven in their entire life calling in and having an argument with me over something.
SPEAKER 06 :
But, John, you know, totally, I agree. You know what angers me the most about all this? We were talking about this off air a little bit. They never apologize. They never own it. You know, Tucker Carlson, where are you today? Own it. You were wrong. And you were predictably wrong. And by the way, General McGregor, that lunatic, peacenik hippie. Oh, but he was a general in the Gulf War. He’s a peacenik hippie. He’s an idiot. He’s a lunatic. Okay? You guys and Thomas Massey and MTG and AOC and all of you, where are you today? I want apologies. No, forget apologies. I just want you to come out and say, we were wrong. Because let me tell you something, John. If I get it wrong, what do I do? I say I was wrong.
SPEAKER 13 :
We come on air all the time, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we come on air.
SPEAKER 13 :
I blew that one. I mean, I thought, really, this was because last week. Okay. I think I either told you or I told the audience. I can’t remember if I told you that I thought if Donald Trump was going to do something with Iran, it would be by Friday. I didn’t miss it by much. But I figured by the end of the week, by Friday, it would pretty much be done and over, or he’d wait two, three weeks to see what was going to go on. And I really hoped I was going to be wrong, to be honest with you. Now, as it’s turned out, it’s all worked out fine. It’s perfect. There’s been no issues whatsoever. Again, once again, and I said this, said this even on the podcast last week, they have a lot more information. at their fingertips and what they’re digesting than Andy, you and I would ever have when it comes to these types of decisions. And so I’m relying on, in this case, the Situation Room, those advisors, the people that are around Trump and so on to advise him on, hey, this is what we’ve got to get done. Here’s our chance. This is probably our best chance right now. Let’s not delay. Blah, blah, blah. Here’s how we can get it all done. I mean, all these pieces are all coming together. And believe me, Andy, there was a lot of sleepless nights, I’m sure, that went around trying to figure out exactly how does this mission play out when it’s all said and done. And how do we accomplish this so that there’s the least amount of collateral damage? We can end this thing. It’s all done and over with. And guess what? We can go back to running the country like we need to. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And he did. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he did. And I know I pick on Tucker because he was the biggest voice who was making the biggest stir about it. He was just making a complete, I’m going to say it, ass out of himself. Agreed. And he was getting shredded by the likes of Ben Shapiro, who was spot on with this from the start. Way to go, Ben. Okay. But here’s what I want to say. Tucker… Not just you, but anyone who’s like you. These crazy, ultra-pacifist, peacenik hippies who are on our side as well. I want you guys to go to all your wacko generals who you have as your guests, these General McGregor types, and tell them, don’t ever come on my show again. Because you were wrong. You were wrong. You were massively wrong. You were totally wrong, and Trump was right. And Trump nailed it. He knocked it out of the park. Trump just got peace where there was no peace. I know it’s only a tentative peace. But folks, we’re talking about two old nations that are going to fight for quite a while. But he just got a ceasefire in 12 days. Why? Because he took out the sites that needed to be taken out. And he brought Iran to their knees. And you can only do that with force. And you’ve got to use intelligent force. And that doesn’t mean you’re going to be in a long protracted next to rock.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, in fact, there’s some folks now that are on the inside, and I talked about this yesterday. There’s some folks that are on the inside of Iran now that are essentially coming out saying, wait a minute, this regime, it is falling. It is struggling. They may not make it. We may have a totally new country when this is all said and done. And for those of you that think we should do nothing and just let a bunch of madmen, Islamic – individuals run a country I’m sorry folks what rock did you just crawl out from under and if you call yourself a Christian and you think that’s the way it should work you’re an absolute fool the reality is they want somebody else to come in and run that country so they can go back to the Iran you know the Iran of the early 70s where by the way they were one of our biggest allies and it was like going to a first world country not a third world country exactly it was like it was like America exactly yeah
SPEAKER 06 :
And now it isn’t.
SPEAKER 13 :
And you guys that are on that side, that are on that, you know, hardcore, you know, we’re part of the mega movement that we didn’t want any of this. So what you’re saying is you don’t want an entire country to have the same opportunity you have? Are you going to be that bold, that rude, that mean, that unchristian-like to say, I don’t want them to have what we have?
SPEAKER 06 :
right is that what you’re saying you see let me let me tell you something if you have any love in your heart then you will look at what donald trump is creating here in america and say my goodness this is so great i want other people to have it yeah so i’m gonna why not have more freedom and happiness and free markets in iran so marty you called yesterday you were all upset about what was going on you thought world war iii was going to happen so i want to know from you marty
SPEAKER 13 :
Are you one of those that doesn’t want to see the folks of Iran have what we have in the United States? You don’t want them to have the same freedoms, the same luxuries, the same ability to even express themselves, to have the same freedom to worship our God the way we do and so on. You don’t want them to have that. You want them to be enslaved by Islam. Is that what you want?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, probably. Personally, I think Marty is not a fan of Israel. I don’t care what he says. I’m sure he’ll say otherwise, but I don’t think he is. How could you not be? Because when you get into talking with these people who are like Marty… and you get to talking to them about Israel, before you know it, they start blaming Israel and Israel’s aggression and what Israel’s done.
SPEAKER 13 :
Israel’s not perfect.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no. No one’s saying they are, but comparatively speaking to their enemies, they are perfect compared to their enemies. My goodness. Correct. I mean, look, is Israel proclaiming death to Iran?
SPEAKER 13 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is Israel cutting heads off dissidents?
SPEAKER 13 :
Do they say death to America?
SPEAKER 06 :
No. Is Israel throwing gay people off buildings? No. Is Israel bombing bus stations around the world?
SPEAKER 13 :
Is Israel doing any of these things? For that matter, folks, and I know it’s not the same for all Arab countries, but especially for Iran. Look at how those people live, and then look how the Jews in Israel live. And tell me there’s not a vast difference from one to the other.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Does Israel subjugate women?
SPEAKER 13 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
You see what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 13 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
They are different. They’re the good guys comparatively in that situation, and it’s not even close. By the way, there are a couple libertarian-style hosts on other stations here in Denver. Yes, there are. And they were saying all these same things too. My question to them is… When are you going to apologize? Yeah, when are you going to apologize? One of them, he was a very popular host, and now he just does a weekend show once a week. And he was a very popular host for many years here in Denver. And he was coming on and lambasting Trump for these warrior actions and for dropping those bombs. And it was so funny. He was doing this right before the ceasefire happened. And he was talking about how this is going to take us down a bad place. And I just want to know. Notice I’m not giving his name. I’m not going to do it.
SPEAKER 13 :
When are you going to apologize?
SPEAKER 06 :
When are you going to apologize? Forget apology. When are you going to own it?
SPEAKER 13 :
Retract. Do whatever you need to do. Right. Hey, I screwed up. I was wrong.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Trump did the right thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. He did the right thing by using force because force can be used well.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I want to make sure we’re clear on this as well. I get it. Trump does make the final call, makes the phone call and so on. But let’s give credit where credit is due. There’s a lot of people that are in that situation room that are feeding a lot of things, a lot of facts into Donald Trump so he can make these decisions in a better fashion. So at the end of the day, did Donald Trump make this decision Yes, but not without all of the other great input that those that are around him, those advisors that he has, that they gave him to make that decision, Andy. So I want to make sure that we’re very clear that while I appreciate Donald Trump, love the guy, I believe he made the right call. It’s not just him that did this. It’s him and his team that did this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and a big voice on his team is Marco Rubio, who everybody called this big neocon. No, he isn’t. He’s just very knowledgeable about foreign relations. He knows what he’s doing.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Okay, Andy, let’s talk a few movies here while we’re at it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, yeah, because I want to look ahead. And what I want to do, because we started this show today, and I said, look, the problem with Pixar, because they were saying, oh, people don’t like original programming. Everybody just wants sequels. They want us to make Toy Story 27. And I said, no. The problem is you guys have absolutely thrown out reality. In the real world, boys are boys. Girls are girls. Masculinity is not the enemy. White people are not the enemy. You don’t have to show 50 shades of everything. You know what I mean? Right. You can just let people be people. Right. And I want to see all people. Okay, I’m not saying I want to see a bunch of white heterosexual men. No, no, no, no, no. Right. I want to see all people. That’s right. But. They have basically been stripping out one kind of person and we’re making it the villain. Great point. Right. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. So you’re going to ask me.
SPEAKER 06 :
I want you to look forward to some of these movies and just tell me, are you looking forward to it? Are you not? And what do you, and do you expect it to make the mistake or do you expect it to get it right? Here we go. Okay. This weekend we got upcoming is F1 with Brad Pitt. What do you think?
SPEAKER 13 :
I’m going to try to go see it Thursday night if I can figure it out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, cool. By the way, it’s over two and a half hours. Very long movie.
SPEAKER 13 :
I heard.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, we have Megan 2 coming out this Friday.
SPEAKER 13 :
I won’t watch that one, but that’s for different reasons.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it’s a horror movie. Right. I’m looking forward to it. I think it’s going to be a lot of fun. Okay, the next week, and you’re going to be gone, Jurassic World Rebirth.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I want to see that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, do you think they’re going to make those mistakes? I do not.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don’t think so, because they never really… Well, if they do, I’ll be surprised, because they never have prior.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think it’s going to be a good movie. And they don’t really say what the next movie is going to be that week, so I’m just going to move on. July 11th, Superman. Are they going to get it right, or are they going to go politically correct?
SPEAKER 13 :
That one will be woke.
SPEAKER 06 :
I am worried it’ll be woke.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’ll be woke.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I don’t know that. I could be wrong. I hope I am wrong, but I just, I’m not confident.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I’m with you. I’m leaning more that way. Let’s hope that’s not the case, Andy, and we’re both wrong, but I would be shocked if it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m hoping we’re wrong. Okay, a week later, I know what you did last summer. They’re doing a remake of the original.
SPEAKER 13 :
Woke. Yeah, they’ll probably woke-ify it. I hate to say that because if they’re going to use the teens and go all that route and so on, I’m guessing they’ll make it woke.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, this one, I don’t know. It’s a modern Western Eddington.
SPEAKER 13 :
No idea on that one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, but you see, they can’t just make a Western anymore. They’ve got to woke-ify it. I’m worried that they will. And this is a movie I’m absolutely dreading, Smurfs. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
How do you woke a Smurf? They will. They’ll figure it out. They will woke-ify the Smurfs. They will woke-ify the Smurfs.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, the next weekend on the 25th, and this is, word has it, they’re going woke on this one. Fantastic for the first steps.
SPEAKER 13 :
It doesn’t shock me.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, maybe they won’t. I really don’t know, but from what I’m hearing, they will.
SPEAKER 13 :
Fantastic Four is Marvel, right? Yes, it is. Yeah, chances are high.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Unfortunately. I know you and Richard talk about that a lot, but I will be surprised if that one isn’t, Andy. But you’d think by now, on Marvel especially, that they would learn and start adjusting those movies, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I would think so.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, how many have been duds in the last, I don’t know, four or five years?
SPEAKER 06 :
Fantastic Four, they haven’t had a good one. I mean, I actually thought the first one was kind of fun.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’m talking Marvel in general. How many duds have they had, Andy? No, it’s… Too many, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it’s been bad.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s been bad.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I’m not the movie buff you are, but I’m listening to you when it comes to these enterprises.
SPEAKER 06 :
Marvel movies right now, obviously you had Deadpool and Wolverine, which was a huge hit, but that’s because… They went back to the formula and just stuck with it. And even though that has lots of woke stuff in it, they at least let the two main guys be themselves and be fun.
SPEAKER 13 :
The problem is Disney owns it, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that’s the problem.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s the whole issue.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, this will be a minor horror movie that’s not going to be on the big screens, but Bambi the Reckoning. That I want to see.
SPEAKER 13 :
Like the deer Bambi? Yeah. I just, I’m sorry. Bambi the reckoning.
SPEAKER 06 :
There’s a part of me that that would complete my life.
SPEAKER 13 :
So the fawn is now going to tear things up? Hey, man, this time it’s personal.
SPEAKER 06 :
This time it’s personal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, gotcha.
SPEAKER 06 :
I have no idea.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Okay, wait a minute. Is Bambi a he or a she, by the way?
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s a he.
SPEAKER 13 :
Bambi’s a he. I guess it is because it grows up and has horns, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, unless it’s a stripper named Bambi.
SPEAKER 13 :
Maybe it’s a transgender Bambi.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Tranny Bambi. Now, that could be a new superhero, Tranny Bambi.
SPEAKER 13 :
Is Bambi going to grow up and go against the hunters in this one, the woke hunters? I have no clue. I haven’t looked at it. Or Bambi’s so woke he goes against the hunters?
SPEAKER 06 :
What happens? I just love the title. it’s a horror movie okay uh august 1st the bad guys 2 and by the way that’s a remake of a surprisingly good cartoon bad guys 2 yeah okay with the fox and so forth and the remake of no no no no the naked gun oh that’s liam neeson right yeah and who knows man maybe that’ll be not woke i hope it’s not they never were
SPEAKER 13 :
They’ll ruin it if they make it woke. Yeah, don’t make it woke. Because they were so good before that it’s going to be tough to top anyways. So here’s the thing. Tough to top, if you go woke, you’ve really messed it up.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think a lot of the writing for it was done by Seth Green from Family Guy. So who knows? Maybe it’ll be good. I don’t know this movie, Weapons. It’s a horror movie that’s coming out on August 8th, but also Freakier Friday.
SPEAKER 13 :
Freakier Friday.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so you know Lindsay Lohan?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Woke.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I bet that that’ll be woke and not very good. Okay, now let’s get excited. August 15th. Are you ready? Nobody to.
SPEAKER 13 :
That shouldn’t be woke. The first one wasn’t. It better not be.
SPEAKER 06 :
It shouldn’t be. The first movie was so good.
SPEAKER 13 :
I loved it. And that one made the, just for those of you who have never seen Nobody, the first one, it’s worth watching because it takes what would be a pretty low-keyed, average, white male dad and turns him into this monstrous, you know, covert expert that can literally defeat anybody he wants to.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because he has a history.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and it was really good. And he doesn’t look like, you know, he’s not…
SPEAKER 13 :
No. Ripped. That one’s awesome. Like The Rock. Great movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And then there’s several other movies. I don’t know which I’ll see. Americana, Witch Board, Jimmy and Stiggs. Who knows? Probably Jimmy and Stiggs. Okay. Coming on in the 22nd, Splitsville looks awful. I have no desire to see that. Trust and Honey Don’t. Okay. We’re getting toward the end of August. I think they’re rolling out some that you don’t care, but let’s finish up August.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
On the 29th, The Toxic Avenger. Now, I’ll bet you that’s going to be incredibly woke. Okay, that stars… Who is the little person who… He was the one… Ah, from Game of Thrones.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, he was on Elf, too?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and he was on Elf, and he is the one who protested against using live Peter Dinklage. Now, he’s a fine actor, by the way, a tremendous actor, but he’s also a raving, raving liberal. He is. Okay, he helped ruin Snow White. okay because he is the one who spoke out and made it because they were just going to use live little people right and have seven dwarves and he said that that was bad and that started them down the road of ruining a movie anyway mr uh politically correct is going to be the hero in the toxic avenger which will be interesting hopefully that’s not going to be all um Woke, but I’ll bet it is. Then there are two other movies, The Roses, which is a divorce movie, which actually I think is going to be uninteresting, and a cool movie called Caught Stealing, which looks very interesting. So do you look forward to any of these movies?
SPEAKER 13 :
Maybe two or three of those.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. So for the summer, I think what you’re looking forward to is Nobody 2.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’d be fun.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Weapons is a horror movie. I doubt you’ll want to see that. The Naked Gun, you’ve got to at least be interested.
SPEAKER 13 :
If it’s good, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you’ve got to be interested. Fantastic Four, First Steps, I think you’ve got to at least be curious. Not interested. I won’t go that far, but curious. I can see you at Smurfs. I’m sure you’ll be there. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, yeah. You can go instead of me. What about I Know What You Did Last Summer? Any interest?
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s not your type. No, but that’s actually a movie when I was younger I watched.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, Jurassic World Rebirth.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, that one I would like.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I know you’re going to see F1.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and F1 I might even try to see before Friday when we review it.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’ll be fun.
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, article that I want to finish up with today. And I want to be nice here because I get where people come from and so on and some of the frustrations that happen. But there’s an article in Fox 31. The website today and headline reads, I can’t stand it anymore. Neighbors prepare for six mile sound wall in Denver. So neighbors near Interstate 70 in Denver say the noise in that area is constant from traffic nearby. Some say the noise keeps them up at night. Yeah, really? And interrupts their work. I can’t stand it anymore. I walk. I walk out out there and I go, oh, why did I ever come home here? Says Pam Macias, who lives near the busy highway. OK, I got to stop there for a moment. Neighbors are sick of the noise.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Folks, newsflash. You live near a freeway. Right. Did you not know the free, I mean, I-70 in my lifetime. of living in Colorado has been there. Now, over time, yes, it has grown. It’s been widened. It’s been raised, lowered. All these different things have happened. I get that. And it’s busier now than it probably ever has been. But it doesn’t change the fact, Andy, that it’s always been there. My beef with people like this always is it’s like the guy that moves next to the airport and then complains about airplanes that fly over the top and make noise. It’s like you didn’t know it was there when you moved in?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I totally agree. I mean, you didn’t see this coming. I mean, it was there before you.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I’ve heard or I’ve had like I’ve been on a call. This is their language, not mine, where someone is like blaring on their horn and you can hear it on the meeting. Yeah, you live next to the freeway. Yeah. But relief is on the way. The state, you and I, Andy, will be spending more than $20 million so these neighbors can have some peace and quiet.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I didn’t know that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, we are.
SPEAKER 06 :
I thought that they were building a wall for their neighborhood.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, but you and I are paying for it.
SPEAKER 06 :
We’re paying for it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes. I’m so happy that they’re doing it, and it’s taking them longer because they’re on that side, that way up there. So now it’s our turn. But it’s not just about the noise. Safety is at the top of the mind of neighbors. Some live right by where a semi-trailer came crashing down in November, barely missing a home. The whole house went boom, and I went, oh, my God, what happened? Went running out there, and that’s where that great, big, huge truck came in. Okay. Again, I understand the plight. You live next to the freeway. Have you ever thought of moving? Yeah. There’s no handcuffs to the front door chaining you there.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, I think it’s a great idea to build walls. I think building walls along freeways to contain the sound is a great idea, but…
SPEAKER 13 :
But you’re complaining about something that’s always been there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Putting it all on the taxpayer? Yikes. Well, it’s all coming on the taxpayer. Yeah, I don’t like that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and my point of this is, and as I read these things, the first thing that comes to my mind just is, while I understand and I’m trying to be sympathetic to your plight here— Did an alien drop you into that house, or did you not buy it and move in or rent it or do whatever it is you do to live there? Right, right. And I get it. Typically speaking, those types of areas, the property values aren’t as high, the rents won’t be as high, and typically it’s a little bit less money for folks to live in those areas. Okay? I get that. Yeah, but that’s why. But that’s why. So just remember that.
SPEAKER 06 :
So you spent less than John Rush, right? spent on his place or spends annually on his place, you’re spending less to live there near a highway.
SPEAKER 13 :
Or anybody else that doesn’t live next to him.
SPEAKER 06 :
But now you’re making John Rush, who already pays a lot more for his home, help pay for a wall to make your place better. Yeah. Okay, so here’s my question. What are you people by the highway going to spend your taxes on to make John Rush’s place better?
SPEAKER 13 :
I’d love that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, okay. Well, they’ll get right on that, John. I mean, look, they’re there for you, buddy. They’re going to come through. They are going to make things better for you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that ain’t going to happen, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, the taxpayers never do anything.
SPEAKER 13 :
Never going to happen. For those who are paying the taxes. I understand that in some cases there are certain generations even to where maybe this is a second or third generation. They’ve lived in the home, and maybe I-70 was just four lanes at one time. It wasn’t that busy, and you can handle it. There’s something to be said there. I understand all of that. It is much bigger. Yeah, and I’m trying to be understanding of all of that. But on the same token, the highway hasn’t moved yet. It’s not even like an airport, Andy, where DIA comes in, and then some 30 years later, everybody’s mad because of the noise. In this particular case, I-70 has run right through the center of town since I was a kid.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and let’s face it. Look, it’s obviously got more trucks, more cars, more traffic, thereby more noise. However, all the trucks and cars before were noisy, too. So you already had that whipping by all along. Yeah, that doesn’t make sense. Yeah. See, I do like having walls along the side of highways. I think it’s much better for the people living there.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I get that.
SPEAKER 06 :
But I just think that those neighborhoods should be at least forking over some of the… At least some. They got to at least help pay for this because this is not benefiting everyone. This is benefiting specifically people who moved there when the highway was already there.
SPEAKER 13 :
Somebody says, I live three-quarters of a mile from C-471 time, and with a north wind, it sounded like I was sitting on the freeway. Yep. I sold the house. Those houses are very high and spiffy Highland Ranch houses. By the way, here’s a trick, too, for some of you that may not know this. The road noise will always be louder if you’re higher than the road. Well, that makes sense. Noise travels up. So if you’re below the freeway, it will always be a lot quieter, not totally quiet, but quieter than if you live like up on a hill. So you see some of those houses on 470 up north, Northwest Parkway, where they’re in that Brighton area, and they sit way up on a bluff and see 470s right down below them. I would never own that house. I don’t care how nice it is. Because that road noise is going right up to that house. No thanks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sorry.
SPEAKER 13 :
Don’t want that. But these are things that you should be doing your due diligence on. And this person did. They finally moved. Good for you, by the way. But I don’t want that road noise. I don’t want to live anywhere near a road. I’ve been there, done that once in my life. I’ll never do it again. Any most miserable thing you could ever do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Really?
SPEAKER 13 :
Never live next to a busy road.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’ve never lived that close to a road.
SPEAKER 13 :
A major road. I made that mistake once, and when I moved into a particular house, it backed up to Sheridan over in Broomfield. And at that time, Sheridan was just a little two-lane road. It wasn’t very busy.
SPEAKER 06 :
It wasn’t a big deal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, but it got big. Yeah, and as time went by, it got worse and worse and worse, and I couldn’t wait to get out of that place. It was so loud you couldn’t hang out in the backyard.
SPEAKER 06 :
And, John, I guarantee you the people who moved in and took the homes along there were paying less. It became lower-income housing.
SPEAKER 13 :
And somebody said sound walls won’t work. Actually, that’s not true. Sound walls do work to a large extent, and it depends on how they’re built. If they’re constructed properly. Masonry walls actually will bounce the sound back into the highway, but not up and over. But, no, they’re not going to cure totally any of that noise with these walls. It will help. But if these people are waiting for total silence from this, yeah, that ain’t happening.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I don’t think they are, John. I think they just want it cut down.
SPEAKER 13 :
We’ll see.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, look, people aren’t. Okay, some people are complete idiots. Thank you, Andy. I mean, much of the show today has been talking about complete idiots. Thank you. Trump was still wrong. Thank you, Andy. Well, he brought peace in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 13 :
He’s wrong. Trust me, some of these people are thinking that this thing’s going to be dead silence like the library when they’re done. It ain’t happening.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, yeah, you’d have to be a moron to believe that. If I were living there, first of all, I would kick in some money to help with the wall. I mean, it’s benefiting me.
SPEAKER 13 :
I wouldn’t live there is my point.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’d be moving. I know. I’m just saying if. Okay. But no, I wouldn’t be expecting it to be dead silent. I would just want it quieter. I understand that.
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SPEAKER 04 :
We don’t yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason. All right, that’s going to do it for today.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, John, if you put up a wall on this table, you wouldn’t have to hear me.
SPEAKER 13 :
I wouldn’t hear you, no.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wouldn’t that be great?
SPEAKER 13 :
I would through the mic. I’m very loud. All right, you guys have a great night. Be safe. Hopefully you didn’t have any storm damage. If you did, don’t forget to call Roof Savers of Colorado. That’s it, though. We’ll be back tomorrow, same time, same place. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
