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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And it is Wings Day at Hooters Restaurants. The girls are coming over tonight, so we will partake. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. That’s for to-go or to dine in. And their locations are now going to be Westminster, the one on Parker Road, and the one in Loveland. And so be sure and check that out. And they’ve got great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for happy hour as well. Wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. 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If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate to take other people’s stuff, whether it’s their rights, their property, livelihood, freedom, opportunities, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can be a weapon. But it can be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. That’s a silent thief. The agenda by the World Economic Forum and globalist elites that’s played out through the United Nations, we see it playing out in this Colorado State Legislature. And in some of these cities as well, with what’s going on out in Lakewood, changing all of their zoning out there and pushed by this Colorado governor as well. And remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues and we’ll talk about the people that are around those issues. But we really are working diligently to stay out of the personality fighting that can certainly happen with human nature. It does. Yeah. Our word of the day is purveyance. It’s P-U-R-V-E-Y-A-N-C-E. Eric always says, Kim, make sure that you remember to spell that word. And it is the art or process of providing or procuring. So providence, foresight, preparation, management. And so let’s see. I think as we look into the future, We want to use purveyance as we prepare. I think that’s actually a great segue to mention mint financial strategies because with a proper plan, purveyance, you can plan for your future. And you may have very big dreams for your future. We all should. But you’re not quite sure how to get there? Well, call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. They know that your financial life is unique and is independent and an independent firm and accredited investment fiduciary. They build personalized strategies that put your freedom and goals first. 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As a child, there was, I think it was an admiral. that each Saturday he had an extensive book collection. He would open up his home and let children come in and read his books. And that’s how Andrew Carnegie really became, I think, successful is because he read so much. He thought it was important. So he funded libraries throughout the country. And in fact, in my little town in western Kansas, we had a Carnegie Library, a beautiful little building. And I just remember that I just loved it. It is now, they use it as a city center now. They had built a new library. But he thought that reading was so important. And so this was a quote that he had. And with as much stuff that comes at us on a regular basis, certainly he didn’t have television, radio, and all that at that time. Books, newspapers, those were important. But now that we have all these other media outlets, we need to, I think, have this same discipline. And he said this, a man’s reading program should be as carefully planned as his daily diet. For that, too, is food without which he cannot grow mentally. And I think with all the noise out there that there’s this effort really that is dumbing us down just because there’s so much coming at us. And that’s why we do the show is to try to sift through all this and help you get your brain around these issues so that you can persuade and reason with those in your sphere of influence so that we can reclaim the liberty that is ours, which is our American heritage. And that’s why we do all of this. First headline. where working through WhiteHouse.gov, they had published 50 Wins in the One Big Beautiful Bill. And today is 11 through 15. Number 11 says it implements popular work requirements for able-bodied Americans receiving taxpayer-funded benefits. Through common sense, Clinton-era work, volunteer education, or training requirements, the One Big Beautiful Bill lifts Americans up to find a better quality of life through the dignity of work. I love that. It says it eliminates hundreds of billions of dollars in green new scam tax credits. The legislation immediately stops credits from flowing to China, saving taxpayers $500-plus billion every year. 13 it reverses electric vehicle mandates that let radical climate activists set the standards for American energy. Fourteen, it ends Biden’s war on American energy. The bill finally unleashes American energy dominance by opening federal lands and waters to oil, gas, coal, geothermal, and mineral leasing. And number 15, it streamlines onerous permitting processes so that America can get building again. i think those are all great so with that is number 11 through 15 you can find that at whitehouse.gov so be sure and check that out there next thing i thought this was pretty huge and linda mcmahon who is the head of the department of education This is the headline, and let’s see who is this from. This is from Fox News. It says, Linda McMahon calls out Gavin Newsom as California officials reject the proposal to keep the state Title IX compliant. And this is just huge. She said that they will be hearing from Attorney General Pam Bondi, says the California Department of Education, the CDE, and the California Interscholastic Federation, the CIF, rejected the U.S. Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights proposed resolution agreement following transgender athlete controversies in high school athletics over the course of the school year. Linda McMahon shared CDE General Counsel Lynn Garfinkel’s letter to Regional Director of the OCR Bradley Burke on Monday. It says the California Department of Education received the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights June 25th letter, a finding and proposed resolution agreement in the above referenced OCR matter. It goes on to say the CDE respectfully disagrees with OCR’s analysis and will not sign the proposed resolution agreement. So McMahon shares this. And she says, in reply to your request, please be advised that the CIF concurs, excuse me, go back here. This is the CIF and this is California again. So this is what McMahon said. She said, California has just rejected a resolution agreement to follow federal law and keep men out of women’s sports, she wrote on X. Turns out Governor Newsom’s acknowledgement that it’s an issue of fairness was was empty political grandstanding. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And I get to work with an all-volunteer group that is watching out for the taxpayer of Colorado, which means that’s all of us because we all pay taxes, sales taxes, property taxes. And they’re all stellar, but one of our very stellar board members is on the line with me, and that’s Mary Jansen. She’s a former Lakewood City Councilwoman as well. Mary Jansen, welcome.
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It’s very stellar. Thank you so much. Good morning to you.
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Well, great to have you. And I want to just give a shout out to our fellow board members, which is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. Mary, I so appreciate you and the whole team. It’s a pretty amazing group of people.
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Oh, my gosh. Are they? We can’t do it alone. So we work as a team, and we feed off of each other. When somebody says something really, really smart, we’re like, wow, that’s amazing. So we’re actually learning while we’re doing this. That’s what I love about it.
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Well, and during the legislative session, we go through and we take a look at all of the bills. We look at this through how does it affect the taxpayer or taxes, property rights, parental choice, school choice, parental control of our children, and then education. protecting Tabor, Colorado’s taxpayers’ bill of rights. So it’s a tall order out of 766 bills and resolutions that were proposed. Just this last legislative session, we took positions on 261 of those, which is pretty amazing. So we’d really love people to join us. It’s only $25, basically $2.08 a a month which is less than a cup of coffee at most places and we’d love you to have you join us and we’re working on our ratings report as we speak mary right and um we have to pay to join to be part of cut board so yes we all should be part of it yes we we pay to do all this volunteer work i know call us crazy but i think it’s in the spirit of our american founding i wanted to get your read on the big beautiful bill what’s your thoughts about that
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So I’ve been following some different people, and I did get something from the Financial Literacy for Women business owners. And I also got some information from another source, which I really do agree with. So I believe that the Democrats are ignoring the core reality of the big, beautiful bill. It’s not a wealth transfer. It’s a growth-driven policy. And it’s a reinvestment in American output, which we haven’t had in quite a while, well, since Trump’s last session. And so for a small business, because, you know, I’m a small business person, it means 20% qualified business income deduction is now permanent. And you can now deduct 20% of your profits if you’re an LLC, an S-corp, Solprop, or a partnership. And it’s rewarding you if you do well. That’s what I love about this bill. There’s also fewer 1099s to send out. That means less paperwork, and you still get to deduct the expense. And then 100% bonus depreciation forever. It applies to new and used equipment, includes tech, office upgrades, and vehicles. And then, of course, the no tax on tips. How can we just love that, right? And so you don’t have to pay tax if it’s up to $25,000. Somebody’s getting $25,000 in tips. That’s pretty good. And that’s federal only. So our state is still taxing us. And it’s the same with the tax-free overtime pay for employees. They’re still subject to payroll and state taxes. You know, if I was running for governor, I would totally support no tax on tips and no tax on overtime pay. and I would not sunset them. Wouldn’t you think that would be a great idea?
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I think that would be a great idea to make sure that it puts in here in Colorado what is federal law. Of course, you and I talk about this all the time. Ideally, I would love to just lower taxes across the board. I don’t like it when we are peeling out different groups. And it’s basically in the Communist Manifesto, it puts people in groups. So that’s why I don’t like to peel out specific groups. moving in the direction of lower and lower taxes is a really good idea.
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It is, and it’s kind of an experiment to say, hey, they’re doing really well, maybe we should do it for everything. So maybe it’s just kind of a test thing. That’s what I’m trying to be more positive about it. And also the bill, it cuts bloat and all the wasteful spending, and it’s redirecting approximately $1.6 trillion from the global subsidies to domestic energy dominance. It anchors revenue and production, not taxation. And that’s a really good thing. Because if we’re making more, that’s being business-minded. You’re making more, we don’t have to tax as much the people. That’s a good thing.
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Well, it is. And that’s one of the things that I think economists that are working for the government, like the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, they look at this bill as static. instead of dynamic. And so they put this input in. They think that this is going to come out. I don’t think that they account for the growth when they have been saying that this is going to increase the deficit. I don’t think that they do any of that input regarding what this growth could do. Because if you grow the pie and the pie gets bigger and bigger and more people are prospering, but yet lower taxes, when more people are prospering, tax revenues go up.
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Correct. Yeah, I’m not happy about that debt either. But, you know, I’m thinking it could be like a safety net until the tariffs and the energy exports kick in and offset the deficits. That’s what I think everybody needs to be a little more focused on.
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I think you’re right on that. Any other thoughts on that? And then I wanted to ask you about Lakewood because you were a city councilwoman there and they’re doing this whole zoning rewrite. So anything else on the big, beautiful bill?
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Another thing is the Democrats are all focused on the Medicaid issue. And, you know, that’s just been a big balloon. It’s waiting to burst for a long time. And now we’re finally going to reform it by targeting inefficiencies and fraud. And it’s not the care for those that deserve it. Right.
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Right.
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And I’m really tired of all the crocodile tears. And I think we just need to pull that bandaid off. I’m sure it’s going to hurt a little bit, but I think everything’s going to turn out okay.
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Well, and what a novel idea, though, to get rid of waste, fraud, and abuse. I think that’s a really good idea. And, of course, here in Colorado, and we’re going to have to roll up our sleeves at CUT and take a look at what happens with the special session. which the governor just recently called, which I guess is going to be at the end of this month. And so we’re going to have to take a look at what they’re doing. But yesterday when Kevin Lundberg was on, he said that probably one of the things they’re really concerned about is $500 million shortfall that they’re going to lose from the federal government for Medicaid funding. This is never the way it was supposed to be anyway, Mary Jansen, so we’ll have our work to do on that. What about Lakewood with this whole zoning rewrite? What’s going on with that?
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Oh my gosh. Some of it’s a little strange. It’s like they’re throwing everything out and putting it back in and I think a lot of people aren’t happy about it. Everybody’s worried about eminent domain and, you know, the 15-minute city thing, the density. They’re putting all this density in with no parking. You know, everyone’s worried about overcrowding, which I don’t think is good for a city. We’ve always been a bedroom city, and we’ve always liked it that way. We’ve always had our space, and they want to get rid of our space.
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Yes, crowding people into their communities with people on top of each other. It doesn’t feel like freedom.
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Yes, not only that. They keep telling me this density is more for the environment, because I think that an apartment complex would use more water.
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More electricity.
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More electricity, yeah, more power. And, of course, then you get all those people in one little space. I don’t think it’s very good for your human spirit.
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I don’t either. That’s very interesting that you would say that. I agree with that. Mary, I don’t know that I put it on the things, different bills to rate this last time around. So I’m not sure that you were aware of it. because I don’t think that I sent it out to the group to take a look at. But I was talking with someone afterwards, and it was very curious. I don’t think it passed, but down at the statehouse, there was a proposed piece of legislation that for new apartment buildings, instead of having two staircases to exit, you would only need one. And I thought, gosh, that sure seems like that would be a fire danger.
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Well, you know, there’s an apartment complex right across the street from me and they only have one staircase and it’s three stories. And one night, um, oh, this was several years ago. Uh, we were outside on our porch and we saw a fire and I was like, oh, and I said, no, there’s somebody who’s just having a barbecue and it’s just get a little big and it will get bigger and bigger. And next thing we know, it was going straight up that stairwell. And, um, Of course, I called police right away. I called 911. And of course, the fire station is right across the street. It still took them at least 10 minutes to get over there. And there was a man with a ladder that was getting people off the third floor. They did lose one person and one person got hurt because I believe that they only had one staircase. And that was only three stories. Can you imagine if it was five?
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I know. And now this is tin hat stuff, but gosh, just think if you had a shutdown again like COVID and you didn’t want to let people get out of their apartment buildings or whatever, it’s a lot easier if you just have one staircase. There’s all kinds of reasons why you’d want to have two staircases to exit an apartment building.
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Yeah. We would call them insane asylums if we were shut down in them for very long. Yeah. Because that’s what would happen to people. You’d go crazy, stir crazy, cabin fever. You know, we all know what it’s like when it rains for two or three days. Can you imagine if you’re stuck in your apartment for six months?
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Yeah. The other thing is, is these apartments, because you and I are both property rights girls as well, that if from an economic standpoint, if an apartment made sense without any tax subsidies, without any preferential permitting or any of that kind of stuff, So I think we would support that kind of stuff, although, again, I think zoning is also a property right as well, and that’s a whole other discussion. But the problem is, is many of these apartment buildings are receiving favorable financing, tax credits, favorable permitting, and that’s government picking winners and losers by trying to push a specific agenda.
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Correct, yes. And it’s also using a stick versus a carrot. say, well, if you take this money, you have to build it our way.
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Right, right, right, right. Mary Jansen, fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayer Cup board member, your final thought on all this. Great conversation. Thank you.
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I say don’t give up hope. Things seem a little bleak. The big, beautiful bill is a start. You know, read it. Learn about it. If you’re not sure, don’t trust one side or the other. There are some bad things in it. If you might think some things are bad, I put a different spin. Always be positive. Always think positive, and things will turn out okay.
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Well, and if there’s something that we don’t like about it, then we need to go to work and get our congressmen and senators to put some legislation forward to fix it. Don’t you agree?
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And if your legislator is against everything that you believe, then it’s time to start to vote for someone else.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. Mary Jansen, thank you for all the great work that you do. Greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
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Bye.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We greatly appreciate you. And did want to mention the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. The official Marine Memorial is right here in Colorado. and at 6th and Colfax. It was dedicated in 1977 and time for a remodel. And Paula Sarles, who is the president of the foundation and her team are working diligently to continue to uphold the Marine Memorial as well as raise the money for the remodel. You can get more information about all the work they’re doing by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I’m pleased to have on the line with me Samara Brown. She is a senior policy advisor with the Center for Renewing America. which is located back in the Washington, D.C. area. And it was founded by Russ Vogt, who is the director of the Office of Budget and Management in the Trump administration. And so they really have a feel for what’s happening on Capitol Hill. And I’m so pleased to have Samara on the line. Samara, welcome. Well, thank you, Kim. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. And the Big Beautiful Bill, you probably have been pretty close to this whole thing. So what’s your read on the Big Beautiful Bill?
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Well, thank you again. And yes, it was a great accomplishment for President Trump, for the Republican Congress. It was a long road coming. Obviously, it came down right to the wire of the July 4th deadline that the president wanted it signed by. And yes, we’ve been knee-deep in it, neck-deep in it for months now. And while it had some amazing things on immigration and taxation, obviously, there’s some work to be done in other areas that we know the Republican Congress is going to try to get through for the rest of the year.
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So this is a monumental bill, Samara, and it’s pretty remarkable that they got this done by the 4th of July because President Trump has not been in office that long. This is a monumental accomplishment.
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It really is. It really has been. And, you know, this Congress came in in January with President Trump inaugurated on the 20th, knowing that they wanted to get something done quickly. I know that plans at the beginning were to get something done in the first month or two months, but obviously it took a longer time. And knowing that this is going to be very big and, you know, one big, beautiful bill and very comprehensive, you know, but ultimately it has codified at least 28 states.
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of president trump’s executive orders and done a lot like i said in taxation um to and of course repeal a lot of the biden era um you know nonsense and woke government that they put in place over the last four years so that is really huge to take these things and put them into codify them into law what so regular people out here in fact we had a great question from Let’s see, this was from Holly. She said, with all the money that they’re saving taxpayers, is that going to actually translate into us paying less taxes or getting a refund? What do you think about the everyday person there? What would you say to that?
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Yeah, so… So in the tax space, this bill was ultimately a continuation predominantly of the 2017 Trump tax cuts that, of course, most Americans, everyday Americans saw a tax reduction and more money in their pockets. And so first and foremost, if nothing had been done and the tax cuts had been allowed to expire in the year, the average American would have seen about a 22% increase in their taxes. So getting that done and making those tax cuts permanent was very important. In addition, of course, a lot of the things that the president promised on the campaign trail, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and an enhanced take-home money for seniors. is going to be seen. Most Americans will see a tax cut. It remains to be seen, depending on how much they pay, usually how much they will see. But more Americans should see more money in their pocket. And of course, this big thing, making the tax cuts permanent means we don’t have to come back 10 years from now to do it all over again.
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Okay. What about, you mentioned immigration, and that certainly has been a big issue. So what exactly, how did they address that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, so, you know, it finally provided funding to complete the border wall, which, of course, has been, you know, President Trump’s priority. But it also includes millions of dollars to hire new ICE agents to expand ICE facility, holding facilities, so we can actually, you know, hold illegal aliens who are subject to deportation, hold them in, you know, in facilities in jails or prisons. And it also increases CBP or Customs and Border Agents. There’s also a ton of new fees. For, like, illegal immigrants or ones who are trying to, you know, get in. So, obviously, one of the problems during the Biden administration was we had a lot of, you know, millions upon millions of fraudulent asylum claims. You know, say, oh, I’m seeking asylum. That’s how they got into the country, you know, and have been let into our country. What this bill has done is impose fees on those asylum claims so that not only is it going to be a hurdle for those seeking, you know, seeking to come into our country fraudulently, uh for those who come actually to the not to cross illegally but also come you know at the boards of uh you know the ports of entry um this is actually going to save about 77 billion dollars for americans uh because that we’re actually imposing new fees and so uh it really ramped up immigration enforcement to the tune of hiring hundreds of new ice agents and expanding facilities to hold them so this is really going to ramp up our deportation efforts
SPEAKER 05 :
So, Samara, I have an anecdotal story. I was talking with a friend of mine that does work with – on the streets, I guess, would be a way to handle that. And she actually was talking with a woman that had come here yesterday. illegally, that absolutely loves Trump and has said that she wants to go home to her home country so that she can try to come back into America Legally. And one of the reasons that she really supports Trump on that is she said that, again, this is anecdotal, this woman said that she had seen the travesty of rapes and cartels in her journey to get here. And so she was very supportive of Trump’s immigration policy, which I thought was super interesting.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mm-hmm. Well, yeah, that’s amazing. And I know that currently the Trump administration has a protocol in place for those who are here illegally who, you know, they can get a free flight or not for a flight home with no penalty if they want to self-deport. And so, you know. The president has expressed, you know, folks who want to come here legally. We obviously want them to do it the legal way. And those who are here illegally can self-deport now with no penalties themselves.
SPEAKER 05 :
I thought I saw a headline that at least a million people had self-deported because of this. And that’s pretty effective. Yeah, definitely. Okay, next question. And I’ve been going through the WhiteHouse.gov. They said 50 wins in the one big beautiful bill. I think almost everybody thinks that this makes sense where it is implementing popular work requirements for able-bodied Americans receiving taxpayer-funded benefits. And the last thing it says on WhiteHouse.gov is that people can find a better quality of life through the dignity of work. That just is great common sense, Samara.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. And a lot of has been said about the, you know, you’re talking about the Medicaid work requirements. A lot of people don’t understand that. In 2024, we were paying over 60% more of what we paid on Medicaid as a country than we did in 2019. That was a lot because of, of course, the COVID enhancements. But what it ended up being is that it’s a massively expensive program that’s supposed to be for the most vulnerable, right? You know, we want folks who get medical care, children, the truly impoverished, and, of course, the elderly who can’t care for themselves. But most Americans, as you said, most polls show that most Americans believe that if you are an able-bodied adult without dependents, you should work for the benefits the rest of us have to pay for. And that’s just common sense policy. And so what this bill does is say you have to work a minimum amount of hours per month, and work includes both seeking a job, having a job, and even some volunteer work in order to maintain your Medicaid benefits. And that’s just common sense policy.
SPEAKER 05 :
It really is, and I think that makes sense to almost all Americans. Now, I don’t know if you look at Colorado much. Colorado is, from a public policy standpoint— in a political standpoint, it’s a mess out here. And the governor has called for a special session at the end of this month to address the fact that Colorado is going to lose about $500 million in Medicaid funding. And as my friend Mary Jansen had just said, that there’s going to be crocodile tears trying to blame Trump about not taking care of children and And I don’t think that that’s the proper role of the federal government to be sending money to states for this. I don’t think that we should be doing that. So I’m happy about that. And I hope that this legislature and this governor roll up their sleeves and actually make some hard decisions instead of so frustrated that they’re going to lose money that now they can’t have for their pet projects.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And, you know, obviously, you know, with the, you know, the forms you’ve done on Medicaid, what it’s attempting to do, what it is trying to do, what it’s going to do is make sure that, you know, obviously children who cannot work will still be covered. Their medical care and their medical insurance will still be covered under Medicaid. Again, those who are truly impoverished and disabled and, of course, the elderly who are who both have crossover between Medicaid and Medicare, will be covered. But over the years, we have seen states take advantage of various financial loopholes in the program to get more money from the federal government than they perhaps ought to. We see this most famously in California and places like New York. And so what the bill did was actually close some of those loopholes and make sure that states have more skin in the game than they did, which was costing the country, and that means the American taxpayer, millions of dollars.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that makes a lot of sense. We’re going to continue the discussion with Samara Brown, who is a senior policy advisor with the Center for Renewing America, which they were very I think, active in watching what was going on regarding the one big beautiful bill and how it got through Congress. I’d love to find out just how that happened, because there had to be a lot going on. So we’ll be right back with Samara Brown. These discussions come to you because of our sponsors. We’ll talk with him in the next hour. And that is Lauren Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s kimmonson.com. Let’s see here. I have Samara Brown on the line with us. She’s a senior policy advisor at the Center for Renewing America. And Samara, I’m fascinated. How this big, beautiful bill came together. From just a novice on this, I figured that Trump maybe had all these big directives. And then how did all of this stuff get into it? I thought, well, I’ll just try to read that. And I couldn’t get through the table of contents. So how did this all come together?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and you know, you describe it, it’s a legislating and legislative text is a very complex process, but you know, ultimately, you know, we probably remember our schoolhouse rock, you know, the House and the Senate write a bill. But in the real life case, you know, the president’s legislative team has their priorities, and they talk to the House, you know, House of Representatives leaders in the Speaker’s office, and of course, their counterparts on the Senate side, and they, you know, write a bill. And there was some debate at the beginning of this year, at the beginning of this Congress, THAT WHETHER THEY WOULD BE TWO BILLS, THEY SPLIT INTO TWO, BUT THE PRESIDENT ULTIMATELY SAID HE WANTED ONE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL, AND HENCE, THAT’S WHAT WE GOT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT’S, YOU KNOW, NOT TO GO INTO TOO MANY SPECIFICS. I USED TO BE A FORMER CONGRESSIONAL STAFFER, SO I KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WRITES USUALLY TEND TO WRITE THESE THINGS FIRST, BECAUSE THEY’RE TAX BILLS, THEY’RE SPENDING BILLS, AND THEY GO THROUGH THEIR COMMITTEE PROCESSES, AND ULTIMATELY, IT COMES DOWN TO CAN YOU CONVINCE ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS, OF COURSE, THE CASE, Republican members of Congress to vote for this. They believe that it is a good bill that should pass to get the president’s priorities through. And that did take a long time, you know, and so as you probably saw some of the news, the Senate was in session on the Senate floor from Monday morning all the way to Tuesday afternoon. And so, you know, kind of rewriting portions of the bill, getting folks on board, and ultimately it was such a close vote that Vice President Vance had to break the tie and actually pass the bill in the Senate.
SPEAKER 05 :
So how did that work for that day and a half or whatever? So they have the bill in front of them, and then does a senator then say, I want to strike this, I want to add an amendment? How does that work exactly?
SPEAKER 07 :
that’s a lot you know of course these are all private conversations among senators themselves and their staff and of course again white house was very much white house legislative affairs president trump’s legislative team very involved on yet but they’re basically in talking about their priorities what can be struck from the bill what can be maybe added uh… the administration can do at the executive level that couldn’t get into the bill uh… you know so executive orders and and and administrative rules um you know to kind of make you know make assurances to senators and of course house members when it gets over there um that they will this bill will satisfy their their concerns obviously they’re concerned for their state as well as you know their districts in the nation uh and so that’s going to happen you know it’s like the quintessential smoke-filled room as people might say um it always sounds bad but this is you know ultimately how these things get done.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so do all the senators have to vote on it? So, for example, that part of the bill regarding giving AI a 10-year carve-out where there couldn’t be any local or state control over AI, and that, I think, was removed from the bill. What does that look like? How does that happen?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, so, you know, there was a lot of angst among, you know, this is a bipartisan concern between Republicans and Democrats about that particular AI provision, which to specify was putting a moratorium on states’ abilities to regulate AI within their states. for 10 years based on some funding. It was negotiated prior to the bill being voted on down to a five year, but, and I believe it was Senator Blackburn from Tennessee had some really big concerns with it. And so ultimately she offered an amendment to strip the entire provision. So, you know, to ship the entire moratorium out of the bill. And that amendment actually passed 99 to 1. And so that actually was taken out of the bill prior to passage. And she, as an individual senator, obviously I don’t know her personally, and I’m not privy to her decision making, but she ultimately decided that she didn’t like that provision enough, and she thinks it shouldn’t have been part of the bill. And no one else kind of objected, and so it got voted out of the bill.
SPEAKER 1 :
Huh.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is there anything else that hasn’t gotten a lot of publicity that was voted out of the bill as well?
SPEAKER 07 :
uh… not anything that you know there was a lot of things prior to the is bill being brought to the senate floor for and we take final consideration the final vote uh… that was kind of taken out by and you might have heard that the word the parliamentarian because it didn’t comply with uh… the rules of how this process played out uh… it’s a lot of things that you know a lot of for instance uh… you know republicans of course in the white house administration president trump wanted to strip medicaid from covering you know gender affirmed gender transition of procedures for children and adults via the medicaid program which you know we here at the center support and i know that a lot of republicans most republicans support and the president trump certainly supports unfortunately the parliamentarian uh advisor ruled that that provision wasn’t compliant with the rules so that was uh unfortunately stripped out of the bill Not because any Republican wanted it stripped out, from what I understand, but because it didn’t comply with the rules. So a lot of things like that happened on the front end, but there were no other amendments like the AIA amendment that passed and got something out of the bill.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So just to clarify, Medicaid, our tax dollars, are being used for…
SPEAKER 07 :
uh i don’t i don’t call it gender affirming care the for the uh it’s really gender mutilation of our children and we’re using tax dollars for that in certain states uh you know because medicaid is a partner and i don’t want to be too complicated here it’s a state federal partnership states can cover certain things that they believe are medically appropriate and so um a lot of states do cover under medicaid some of the as you said you know gender mutilation, gender transition, sex change procedures under the program. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
On children. Oh, my gosh. Okay, next question. What about Planned Parenthood? We’d seen headlines that Planned Parenthood was going to be defunded. Did that happen?
SPEAKER 07 :
So, yeah. So the bill had a bill had a provision that covers defund large abortion providers, which, of course, includes Planned Parenthood, because they are the largest abortion provider for one year. It shipped them of all Medicaid funding for one year. And so that that did pass that they get signed into law. That is current law. You might have seen there’s an ongoing litigation on that. But as a matter of law, that it did pass.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, why only one year?
SPEAKER 07 :
I believe there was a there’s a budgetary impact. And again, this is a lot of like a lot of kind of in the weed stuff in the weed stuff. Yeah. But at one year. But that is certainly something that I know a lot of Republicans are interested in making, you know, obviously multi multi year. We would prefer permanent, of course, but multi year defunding of large abortion providers, which includes parenthood.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Several things coming in on the text line. First one, this is from Jenny. She said, what should we do about this parliamentarian? She appeared to be nitpicking and has been there since Harry Reid. What’s your comments on that, Samara?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, as a former Senate staffer, obviously we had a lot of interaction with the parliamentarian’s office, but I think it’s ultimately important to understand that her position as a woman right now who is a parliamentarian, she serves at the pleasure of the majority leader, and ultimately her position what she we keep saying she rules on things but really she’s advising on things and uh senators when they make their arguments about a provision whether it should be kept in or out can then can revise their arguments to make them compliant with the rules so ultimately you know it’s a it’s to be perfectly honest it’s a very it’s a black box you know we don’t know what arguments are being made we don’t know what arguments the other side’s making to you know to make her advise a certain way or the other. So it’s a very, you know, she gets a lot of heat, I would say, but ultimately it’s a decision by the senators to whether, you know, whether they adhered by her ruling or make better arguments. So it’s a very complicated answer. I understand that, but it’s ultimately speaking, the senators make the decision.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. This is on a different issue, but Ben wanted to know if you know if there’s any election reform that’s going on at the national level.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s a great question. I’m not aware of any sort of election current laws are being passed. I do know there are several bills that have been introduced by Republican members of Congress to, you know, for instance, Congressman Chip Roy of Texas has a bill called the SAVE Act, which would put a nationwide requirement to make sure that voters have their citizenship checked before they vote or register to vote, which seems like a very obvious thing that should be the case, but it’s currently not law. So that’s a bill that we obviously want to pass, and we know that Republican Congress wants to pass. I know that President Trump’s administration, like the DOJ, the Department of Justice, is looking into several states and how they clean up their voting rolls. But other than that, I’m not aware of any other legislative activity on that matter.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Samara Brown, great information. We’ve got about a minute left. What is your final thought you’d like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 07 :
I would say that, you know, I would just say reflect on the first, you know, almost six months, really, almost seven months of President Trump’s second term. It’s been so far, you know, a lot of wins, including this one big, beautiful bill. And, you know, keep the pressure on your members of Congress, senators and House members to support the president and his agenda, but also to get work done in Congress that they should be doing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, well, you’re doing great work. This is Samara Brown. She is a senior policy advisor at the Center for Renewing America. And what is your website?
SPEAKER 07 :
Our website is centerforrenewingamerica.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for listening. You each are treasured and valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And that first hour, the show is broadcast 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday, first hour 1 to 2 in the afternoon. So if you missed it, you can hear it this afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And that’s on all of our platforms, KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM. the KLZ website and app, and then people can hear it on Spotify and iTunes. The conversation with Samara Brown, with Senior Policy Advisor with the Center for Renewing America, it was a little bit in the weeds, but I found it super interesting. And what do you think?
SPEAKER 21 :
I thought it was super interesting. Definitely a lot of things hopeful, but we still got to keep our eye on the ball.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. And that’s what we do every day is keeping our eye on the ball. And let’s see here. Let’s get over here to our word of the day. And it is purveyance. It is P-U-R-V-E-Y-A-N-C-E. It could be the act or process of providing or procuring providence, foresight, preparation, or management. So one might say that the one big beautiful bill has the purveyance to, well, as Trump says, is to make America great again, but to have everyday people be able to thrive and prosper. And so your challenge is to use purveyance, P-U-R-V-E-Y-A-N-C-E, And again, it is the act or process of providing or procuring providence, foresight, preparation, or management. I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. They’ve been great sponsors of the show. It’s because of all of the support from all of you that we are in this moment. battle of ideas every day, searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Our quote of the day is from Andrew Carnegie. He was born in 1835, died in 1919. He was a Scottish-American industrialist and philanthropist, and he led the expansion of the American steel industry in the late 19th century. And he was an avid reader. And he says this. This is his quote. And back then, they didn’t have television, radio, social media, all that we have now, which I know that’s so much information, but so much comes at us that I think in some ways it dumbs us down. It makes us callous to news out there. But he said this. So I would say… I would say your media. When he says a man’s reading program, I would say whatever it is that you are intaking into your brain. Let’s do that. He said a man’s reading program should be as carefully planned as his daily diet, for that too is food without which he cannot grow mentally. And so we need to continue to grow mentally, that’s for sure. I have been going through the White House dot gov and the one big, beautiful bill. And there’s 50 wins in the one big, beautiful bill. And today’s number 11 through 15 says it implements popular popular. Love that. Yeah. Number 14, it ends Biden’s war on American energy. And number 15, it streamlines onerous permitting processes so that America can get building again. To Mary Janssen’s point, my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayer board member, also known as CUT, that this bill is really focusing on growth and reinvestment. And what happens then is everyday people can thrive and prosper. A couple of things are prayers for those in Texas from this flood in the hill country, and in particular this Camp Mystic. And I know we’re all watching this. I was going through some news last night, and they actually had some pictures of some of the little girls that are missing or have been found missing. but deceased from Camp Mystic and stopped me in my tracks because the last name is a name that I recognize. As many of you know, I was in the ladies’ clothing business for many years, so we had reps from all over the country. And a woman that I knew from Dallas, a delightful woman, she’d had a new little grandchild. And probably around the time that this little girl was nine years old, anyway, the last name I recognized. And it could be coincidence, but it could be that one of my very valued colleagues from a previous life is certainly concerned. I’m concerned about that. My prayers go out to everyone there. It is absolutely heartbreaking on what has happened down there. But a lot is going on in our world, and I wanted to talk with Loren Levy. You know him. Great sponsor of both the Kim Monson Show and America’s Veterans Stories. And he does everything mortgages, works with lots of different companies, so can help with a new mortgage, a second mortgage, a reverse mortgage. And in all of the 50 states, just not New York. Lorne Levy, welcome.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hey, good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, Lorne, it seems like it’s smarter and smarter every day that you’re not doing business in New York with this Democrat candidate for mayor who is a radical socialist, probably. So it seems like that’s a smart idea. Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, who knows what regulations might come in after that election.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so hopefully New Yorkers will find their brains and make sure that they vote more for freedom versus socialism. But I had several things I wanted to ask you about. First of all, mortgage rates, any movement on that at all?
SPEAKER 13 :
Not really, no. If anything, the 10-year note has gone backwards a little bit into the 440s again because the market’s been doing well. And when the stock market tends to go up, you know, we talk about people moving to riskier assets and out of bonds. So, no, we’re staying in that same range right now. Nothing has really happened news-wise or, you know, to make it move anywhere. So we’re in that range that we’ve been in for quite some time now.
SPEAKER 05 :
When is their next meeting? When’s the Fed?
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s July 29th and 30th is the next meeting. And, you know, we’ll see. Obviously, we know the political pressure. the economy and you know we want to have a strong economy right and this bill that you were just talking about helps and the economy is doing well it seems so we’re in this conflict between we don’t have a lot of layoffs you know we have a strong economy and yet you know there’s pressure to lower rates but you have this you know the Fed maintains this fear of inflation so we’ll have to see what happens you know and I know we talk a lot about who’s in charge and Powell is the head of the Fed but there’s a 12 person voting committee that votes what to do with the rates. So we have to see, you know, you have some people that are called doves that want to lower rates. You have some that are called hawks that are more nervous. So it comes down to that 12 person vote.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know you’ve answered this question, but I still don’t have it clear in my mind. And that is, I remember you sitting right here across the table from me when people could get mortgages in the threes, which was remarkable. And so the Fed was keeping rates artificially low. And I know that there’s political pressure now to lower rates. So they kept them low over there. And I can’t quite match that up. How is it that they say that we are not bowing to political pressure, but yet they kept them so artificially low when they were at that rate?
SPEAKER 13 :
So what you and I talked about back then, and that’s this missing component that we don’t have right now, which was we were under, I forget the term, I’m going to draw a blank on the term right now, but We had the Federal Reserve that was, you know, if you remember coming out of COVID when, you know, it was unprecedented, people weren’t working.
SPEAKER 05 :
So that wasn’t quantitative easing. That’s not the word you’re looking for.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, quantitative easing. That’s exactly right. And so they were the ones buying the mortgages. They were backstopping them. Literally, you know, so if you had a bank like Chase that did $100 million worth of home loans at $100 million, 2.75%. Wall Street had no appetite for those loans because they weren’t making anything off of them. So the Fed was buying them and growing their balance sheets. And now quantitative tightening, which we’ve been in for a while, the Fed stopped buying those mortgages and now is selling them off as they go. Or if people move and pay off their loan, they’re just not lending that money out again. That’s how the Fed is trying to rein in their balance sheet and shrink it every month. And so now the buyer of last resort or the buyer is Wall Street again through mortgage-backed securities and things like that. And they won’t accept 3%. They want a risk premium when they’re buying loans to match the risk now that the Fed is not there to backstop them. That was a key component that we had back then that was worth a large amount of those low rates. And so that’s why I don’t think we’ll ever get back there again to those twos and threes on mortgages because I think it will take another unprecedented event to make the Fed become that buyer of last resort.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we don’t really want them to be the buyer of last resort, do we?
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. No. That was what was looked at as an emergency. In a normal situation, Wall Street and mortgage-backed securities that trade, you can buy them as mutual funds in your 401ks. They have exchange traded funds. All those things are mortgages that are packaged up and then sold to investors on Wall Street. That’s typically how mortgages are run. That is normal. The Fed being the buyer of last resort was an emergency. And that’s what drove rates down so low.
SPEAKER 05 :
But that also created inflation, didn’t it? The quantitative easing. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
So that’s kind of in the printing area since they were printing money to buy all these mortgages. Right. And so, uh, yeah, it did create inflation, but you know, you have to remember it’s been shoot a little, is it 2020? Right. When COVID started like March of 20. And, uh, so it’s been a while now and people forget like it was, no one really knew what to do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Um, and it was unprecedented event. So they were just trying things and, You know, they kept people in their homes. They really did that. You know, they made rates so low that people could afford them. But now what they’ve created besides inflation is people that don’t want to move because they don’t want to give up those rates.
SPEAKER 05 :
I am seeing, and we’ll talk with Karen tomorrow about it, Karen Levine with Remax Realtor. I’m seeing more homes on the market right now. So there is opportunity if people want to try to get into a home, but they should reach out to you, pre-qualify, and then they can go out into the market, know what they can afford, and then hopefully make a deal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, there’s a ton of homes. I’m seeing them too. I think we have the highest inventory we’ve had in years now because people are ready to sell and move on for whatever reason. If they have to relocate for a job or for family, for whatever reason. The only issue we have is the rates are stubbornly high right now, and that’s slowing down buyers because they’re just nervous. So the same advice I’ve been giving on your show for a long time now is If you can get comfortable with a payment right now at these rates and you can lock in and buy the home, you’ve now locked in the highest your payment will ever be. And if an opportunity shows itself in six months, eight months, a year, a year and a half to lower that rate, people will be able to come through and refinance people and try to cover some of those fees as well to make it easier the second time around.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So if people want to have, if they have any questions regarding mortgages, what’s the best number to reach you?
SPEAKER 13 :
Best number is 303-880-8881.
SPEAKER 05 :
Again, for Everything Mortgages, Lauren Levy, 303-880-8881. We’ll talk with you next week, and thank you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, thank you so much, Kim.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. My friends, financial freedom starts with the right guide, and Mint Financial Strategies is here to help. As an independent firm with over 25 years of experience and the credentials of an accredited investment fiduciary, they offer advice that’s focused on you, not a sales quota. Their strategy-first approach is all about helping you live life on your terms with clarity, confidence, and control. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. They are your path to independent financial confidence. Again, that number is 303-285-3080. It is Wednesday, so that means it’s a Trent Luce Wednesday. He’s a sixth-generation farmer and rancher, lives in Nebraska. And he’s always watching out for the people that feed and fuel us, which is really important. We take them for granted. And actually, those industries are under public policy assault. And so that’s why the work he’s doing is so important. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 20 :
I’m having chem withdrawals. It seems like it’s been two months.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s been two weeks. I was thinking the same thing. It seems like it’s been a long time. Before we get into this, how can people watch all the other stuff or find you on all of the other things that you’re doing in media?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, right now, the best thing to do is Beck TV, B-E-K dot TV. I’m live from 6 to 8. So you don’t have to be live. Immediately after, Kim, you can go to Beck TV and watch me on demand. But that two-hour block has turned out to be really good. And that’s central time, isn’t it? Central time. Central time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right, right. Okay. Well, we’ve got a lot to talk about because we have not talked for a couple of weeks. And first thing, I watched a video you sent over regarding the National Cattlemen’s and Beef Association was supporting the Big Beautiful Bill. You had a conversation with, I think, their public relations person. No.
SPEAKER 20 :
No. Ethan Lane, who is the vice president of government affairs.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, OK. Thank you. So what should people know about that?
SPEAKER 20 :
And so now that’s all kind of like water under the bridge because the big ugly thing is going to be as ugly as we don’t want it to be. But that’s not the point. What really irritated me about that, and that’s where we’re at in politics today and why politics is not generating good policy. The cattlemen, and this would be members of the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association, and we don’t need to get into this, but there are three national organizations, and it’s because of the splintered effect. Everything has to be splintered instead of all cattlemen working together. But the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association, which represents the largest number of cattlemen, to be honest, but represents a tremendous amount of industry as well, they brought cattlemen to D.C., and were part of a press conference before the Senate vote on, I’m going to call it House Bill 1, the reconciliation bill, because there was one component of this 887-page bill that gave some more latitude to what we call the death tax. And that latitude was that for an individual landowner, it could have up to $15 million. to be taxed free in a death tax scenario or for a couple $30 million. And for anybody listening, people say, well, that’s a lot of money. It is. But what has been happening is that you have a 50% plus. You could have up to 60% tax on that death or that inheritance. It’s actually an inheritance tax. And there are families that have been forced to sell their property in order to pay the tax. Well, nobody wants that to happen. So while I’m not as staunch of a death tax proponent as I was earlier in terms of repealing it, I’m just anti-tax, period, Kim. I’ll just get that out on the table. But what I’m getting at in this long story is that the cattlemen went to support it, knowing that there are some land grabs and some real problems within the big, ugly bill. But because it contained this one component that they’ve been fighting for, we, I should say we, in 2004, I was actually in D.C. myself, lobbying on the very same issue to try to get some relief for the inheritance tax problem. But politics has gotten to be where we put so many components in one bill that you get everybody to support because we want our little piece of the pie when the rest of the pie is pretty stinking ugly. And so that part, and that’s happening at the state level. We saw this in Colorado. We see it in every single state. And that’s what happened in this big, ugly bill is that people wanted one little component of it so there’s support for it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and I know that you’re not excited about the big, beautiful bill. You’ve got a different name for it. I have been going through, though, many of the wins regarding the bill, and there’s some very good things in there as well. There are some things that we need to get changed, but there has been some good things in there as well, and I’ve been going through that. Give me an example because I don’t know one, Kim. Okay, here we go. Let me get right here. Let’s see. It implements popular work requirements for able-bodied Americans receiving taxpayer-funded benefits. It says, through common sense, Clinton-era work, volunteer education, or training requirements, the One Big Beautiful Bill lifts Americans up to find a better quality of life through the dignity of work. I love that.
SPEAKER 20 :
That’s a legislative action that we have to legislate people to have dignity of work?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, apparently, if they’re getting taxpayer-funded benefits and they’re able-bodied, we want to make sure that they’re doing something for that. I agree.
SPEAKER 20 :
It’s not going to work. And yesterday, Brooke Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture, she made a similar kind of a stupid statement. And, you know, I’m all about America first, but she’s talking about H2A employees. She’s talking about who is – you have talked about this to no extent – who is providing the services from the farm to the fork. And it’s largely immigrants. It’s been immigrants dating back to 1900 when Irish folks were immigrating to Chicago to be a part of the meatpacking industry. That’s never changed. And she said point blank, we want only Americans working – And if you’re on Medicaid, then you need to be one of the employees that are out there on these farms working.
SPEAKER 10 :
What’s wrong with that? How is that going to work?
SPEAKER 20 :
What’s wrong with that is that you’re going to have 12 positions and nobody show up to do the job. That’s what’s going to happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because Americans have lost the work ethic, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 20 :
And we continue to incentivize them not to work. As long as there’s going to be a tax benefit, there’s going to be an incentive not to work.
SPEAKER 05 :
Cut them off. Cut everybody off. Yeah, this number 11, well, so you’re saying instead of implementing work requirements, you’re saying just cut them off.
SPEAKER 20 :
Correct. Absolutely. Until we stop subsidizing. And we had the same situation, and it was perceived as a great thing in the state of Nebraska. This was under Governor Pete Ricketts. It was like if you’re going to receive any benefit from the state of Nebraska, you’ve got to work. In principle, it sounds like a great thing. What did it change in the workforce? Nothing. Okay. And we still grew government at an unprecedented rate.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, let’s go to number OK, let’s go to number 14. It ends Biden’s war on American energy, says the bill finally unleashes American energy dominance by opening federal lands and waters to oil, gas, coal, geothermal and mineral leasing. Now, that seems like a good thing.
SPEAKER 20 :
Sounds like a great thing, except we don’t have any infrastructure to continue to produce coal, to turn coal into electricity. We’ve turned all the plants into something else or mothball them and they can’t be turned back on.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we need to… We need to reverse that. We’ve got some coal plants here in Colorado that are scheduled to be mothballed, and hopefully we, well, this is Colorado, so I digress. But I like that as well. So you and I look at this a little differently, and that is okay. But I want to go to our next subject. Oh, no, we’ve got to go to break. My gosh, time flies when you’re having fun, Trent. We need to go to break.
SPEAKER 20 :
We’re having a blast.
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SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. And pleased to have on the line with me Trent Luce, sixth generation farmer and rancher from Nebraska. You can find him on BEC TV. That’s B-E-K TV. And he is continuing to shed light on the issues that the people that feed and fuel us are facing. And really appreciate that. I’ve got a number of things. Again, you and I didn’t talk last week because we had encores and rebroadcasts for Independence Week. So we’ve got a lot to talk about. This came in from Kane, one of our listeners. He said, I’d like to hear Trent’s opinion concerning China purchasing our ranch and farmland. Is this an issue that we the people should be concerned with?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes. Yes. But it is being posed as a distraction right now. In fact, our governor in Nebraska, Governor Pillen, yesterday had a similar statement because, you know, Arkansas took the lead and said Syngenta, a crop company that’s owned by a China outfit, can no longer own any products in Arkansas. So we always need to be aware of who is buying our properties. And we’ve seen where there’s been a tremendous number of Chinese-owned properties close to Air Force bases all over this country from North Dakota to Texas. I saw this personally in Del Rio, Texas. I went to that spot where this was taking place. So it is an issue. But it’s not the number one issue. At this moment, I am still more concerned about the United States government controlling land than I am China. And we’re doing that through easements, and we’re doing it through 33% of the land is owned by the federal and state government. We have the individuals… who own the property are losing the ability to take care of their property as they see fit. Because of accelerated property tax, this insurance thing has just gotten to be an animal that’s in front of everybody, Kim, at all levels. People can’t afford, including us, can’t afford to pay insurance anymore. And all of those things lead to where if somebody offers you an opportunity for an easement, They take just this little bit of land, but yet they control the entire property. That, to me, is the number one concern for food and fuel security above China owning property in the United States. That’s a distraction.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so Trent, I agree with you. The government should not own 30% of our land. But yet you’ve pushed back on what was in the Big Beautiful Bill. The parliamentarian took it out, I think. Anyway, it was out of Utah Senator Mike Lee’s proposal to sell off some of these public lands. If I remember right, you weren’t in favor of that.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I’m not in favor of infringing upon the rights of the people who have the property currently. Mike Lee’s proposal, which was, by the way, in my conversation with Ethan Lane, nobody in the world of managing land appropriately supported Mike Lee’s proposal, which is why I got pulled out of there. And this federal land should not be federal land. It was state land. It should get back to the states and the states should manage it and figure out how to not override the property rights that people have acquired through this property because they’re all tied, invested to water rights. You can’t just automatically sell things and not pay attention to who has a property right on that existing property now. But the federal government needs to get out of it. It should be controlled by the state. And then we figure out the best approach going forward.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, here in Colorado, we’ve got a real problem, and that is the person that is now the head of the land trust, which controls much of the state lands, is really focused on keeping humans off the land, and that’s a real problem.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is a real problem, but I’d rather deal with that problem in Denver than try to deal with problems on lands in Montrose, Colorado out of Washington, D.C.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay. Okay, Trent. One of our listeners said, why is Trent so negative?
SPEAKER 20 :
That’s a great question. I ask myself that every day. And it’s because I see things being presented that don’t actually take place on the land. And it just irritates me to no end when I have somebody who has a press conference and Brooke Rollins is getting to be the worst, telling me what is taking place, and it doesn’t match what I know is happening on the land. And it just frustrates me because the premise of your program and why I love being a part of it is, Individual liberties and our liberties are being eroded day after day. And most people just want to stick their head in the sand.
SPEAKER 05 :
And we can’t. That’s why we have to have these discussions. So thank you. And, again, another listener said they appreciate your honesty. These are always important discussions. So next thing, this came in, I think, yesterday from one of our listeners. They said, as we’re watching what’s happened in Texas with this flood and all these people that have been killed, And the question was, did cloud seeding have any effect on this? I guess torrential rain is what it would be called.
SPEAKER 20 :
I have no idea. Two days before the torrential rains. There was cloud seeding taking place by a young man, which I find fascinating. He’s 25 years old. He got a $27 million grant from people who are tied into the government political system that we’ve been talking about, such as Palatier and Peter Thiel. And all of those individuals gave this kid a bunch of money. He’s 25 years old. And he was cloud seeding in Texas two days prior to those torrential rains. I don’t think cloud seeding should continue. I think that it is. I was in Missoula, Montana, remember, two weeks ago. And I saw all this green everywhere I went. I saw this green until I got to Missoula. And Wally Cogden, who’s a local attorney, also happens to be a cattleman. I said, Wally, why is it green everywhere except right here? He said, well, we got an issue. Idaho is cloud seeding. And the rain is not coming on our side of the mountain because they are getting it all out on their side of the mountain. I don’t care where or who you are. That’s a big issue. And while on theory it sounds like a good idea to make it rain when you need it to, that’s just one step too close to playing God. We should not be cloud seeding.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I’ve always wondered, how is it then if we’re cloud seeding, then we You and I have talked about areas, southeast Colorado’s been in a drought. Well, sky shift, it would make sense that you might want to have rain there. So I want to back this up, though. You said this 25-year-old young man received all this money. You’ve sourced that. You’ve checked that out. How can people source that information?
SPEAKER 20 :
Rainmaker is the name of his organization. In fact, he’s been very public, and he’s trying to defend himself again today, promoting that he was going to be on a broadcast with somebody live on different social media platforms. There’s nobody even hiding that fact. And I applaud him. He’s at least standing up for what he did right, and there are people on both sides of the equation. At the end of the day, what we do know is that our death toll is much over 100 people. the property is going to forever be changed, lives are going to forever be changed. I just will remind everybody that the Guadalupe River, like the Colorado River and every other river, is a direct result of some massive water movement. And the truth of the matter is that Earth is overdue for some serious seismic shifts. And if you’ve been watching what’s happening globally with earthquakes, they’re accelerating pretty rapidly. Volcanoes are again on a rapid increase. And we’re due for some major solar flares and sunspots. And these things are just going to happen and why we need to always plan and prepare.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay. And before we go to break, I just put in Rainmaker, Texas. A bunch of stuff came up. Snopes is in on that. So that’s always interesting when they are weighing in. But I haven’t read the article, but Tampa Bay Times said, did a corporation’s cloud seeding cause… Deadly Texas Flooding Fact Check. So people can check that out. We’re going to go to break. I’m talking with Trent Luce, sixth generation farmer and rancher. And we’re almost on speed dial as we’re working through some of these important issues because we haven’t talked for a couple of weeks. And these discussions happen because of our sponsors. If you’ve been injured, reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com as well. Do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. And it is important that we support them because it is important to… uh honor those that have given their lives been willing to give their lives for our freedom a great way to do that is to support the foundation and then regarding the center for american values check out their website drew dix medal of honor recipient and co-founder of the center has started a new podcast series and super interesting he’s he’s really in the know on so many of these things they just posted one today on our changing culture And I’ve got to listen to that to hear what Drew has to say about that. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org. Trent Luce is on the line, sixth generation farmer and rancher. Another question that had come in on the text line earlier in the week to ask you was, what about the mRNA vaccines in chickens? Apparently, it’s out there that they’re going to vaccinate all these chickens regarding bird flu with the mRNA vaccine. So many of us did not want to take the COVID vaccine. If I eat chicken, is that going to then be in my body? What’s your thoughts?
SPEAKER 20 :
So the USDA is talking about mandating what you just said, avian influenza flu shot for chickens. And, you know, it’s hard for me to think about things positively when I see these liberties eroding. It should be the choice of the producer on whether or not you do this. And they’re talking about not allowing for choice. And it flies in the face of everything you talk about in the premise of this program and why the discussion is so good. I do not really in any way, shape or form see it as a risk to people who consume chicken. I just don’t. but in no way, shape, or form should USDA mandate this happening.
SPEAKER 05 :
Should that be disclosed on the label?
SPEAKER 20 :
By the way, they’re talking about what they’re going to do. It’s not being done today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, okay. Next thing, you sent over some information regarding the wolf reintroduction program here in Colorado. That is not being managed efficiently. Surprise, surprise, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
There is no surprise in anything about that story. More money is being spent. The wolves are causing more havoc than they realized. I mean, it’s like, are you this ignorant in history? We controlled the wolf population for a reason, and now look at what’s happening.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Okay. Okay. A couple of things. We’re going to get Gammy on here in just a moment. But Jenny says this, Trent is like me. He doesn’t like people blowing smoke up his skirt. Well, you’re not identifying as wearing a skirt, are you, Trent?
SPEAKER 20 :
I prefer to say, Jenny, I don’t like people blowing smoke up my address.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay, next thing. This came in from Susan. She said she’s concerned that maybe the drought in southern Colorado is on purpose. If you get all the water out of the rain in another location, it will dry up another area, which I think is what you just said regarding up in Montana, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
Missoula, Montana. a direct result of what Idaho is doing. And Idaho is blatantly just doing cloud seeding left and right. I mean, they’re not even quite about it. And you can go look up the Clear Skies Idaho movement, which is making great strides. Hopefully, whether or not the situation in Texas is directly tied to cloud seeding, which my gut feeling is it’s not, hopefully it will bring awareness to why cloud seeding needs to stop, period.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, this is just probably a dumb question. And I agree with you. I don’t think we should be cloud seeding, and so many of our listeners agree. But if Idaho’s cloud seeding and they’re getting rain, why doesn’t Montana do it?
SPEAKER 20 :
Because you can’t put rain in there. What you’re doing is you’re seeding clouds to bring the rain out, and then that moisture – needs to continue back in from evaporation before it can be released. Like the bucket’s empty. You’ve got to fill the bucket again before you can empty the bucket.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Thank you for that. Okay, we’ve got Gammy on the line. Gammy, what’s on your radar?
SPEAKER 06 :
Good morning, kiddos. Well, the person that wrote in, why is Trent negative? We are all, if we are awake, getting very negative about what is being done to our rights. But this is all connected. Thank God you have people like Trent and you who are willing to stand up and give the truth. The whole thing that there’s two narratives that we’re battling right now. One has to do with all the manipulation of our land, our weather, you know, bioengineering, geoengineering, social engineering. Every kind of engineering is happening. And You know, they took these nuclear tunnel boring drills and regular tunnel boring drills. 130 places over the country, all over, have underground facilities that are being done. And some of those places where they were doing some of that drilling, they ended up having earth tremors. And everyone now is knowing that we’ve had weather engineering. Well, Trent brought up the 30 by 30 agenda to wild, what, 30% or more? Well, how many dams, this is my first point of two points, how many dams have been already dismantled? And even though it doesn’t get felt right away, how much impact does dismantling have? take down the river or down the road or up the stream? You know, what impacts are there that no one knows about? I keep thinking like North Carolina, where they, I think, did have a dismantled well added on to weather engineering because the husband of Kamala is a lithium company owner and they wanted lithium up there. So you might have an event, Kim, you know, like a weather event, but then they can aggravate and add to it with their geoengineering. And I think that is being done.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s point one. Okay. So she brings up an interesting point, and that is the taking down the dams up at the Klamath River and the cause and effect on that trend.
SPEAKER 20 :
I suggest anybody who wants to get real up-close personal information on this, Theodora Johnson was my guest on Trend on the Loose yesterday on Beck News, and she and her family ranch in Siskiyou County, California, and they have a front row seat to the four dams that have been removed currently from the Klamath River. There are three more upper river dams that have not. But Gammy’s absolutely right. It’s just incrementalism. All of these things are taking place. And the fact that those dams are not there is going to impact the food supply for all of us. And it’s not just what’s happening there. It’s combining what’s happening there with what’s happening in Georgia and what’s happening in Colorado. So what’s happening in Georgia? No, I just made that as an example.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, you’re saying it’s just all connected.
SPEAKER 20 :
It’s all connected. But I’ll give you an example in Georgia. We have so much discussion, and it’s a great discussion with Denver International Airport being such a huge component of our listening area. We have people telling the farmer we need sustainable aviation fuel, and that comes from taking ethanol and getting a reduced CI score and all these other things. And while we have produced more ethanol than ever, we’re now 13 billion gallons of ethanol each year in the United States. The first sustainable aviation fuel plant came online in Georgia last spring. Excuse me, September. It was September of last fall. And instead of bringing ethanol from U.S. corn-producing ethanol states, they are still importing ethanol from Brazil to make sustainable aviation fuel in Georgia. Well, how does that work?
SPEAKER 05 :
Hmm. Okay. So let’s see. Gammy, did you have one other point that you wanted to ask about? Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’ll make it quick. I beg for time on your show to explain this in depth. However, we’re getting calls now from parents. So this is to all parents. If you have trans or LGBTQ, dysphoric gender, et cetera, children, you need two things. And we have groups that will support you here. You need a legal backup and you need counselor backup that won’t just, you know, mentally groom the child. and the CPAN, Colorado Parent Advocacy Network, and the Protect Kids Colorado organization. Those two in Colorado will help you get resources because you have to have advocacy to wade through the crimes of laws that have been passed to take your children away and to sterilize, mutilate, destroy them. This is a war on epic levels globally. But you have got to have that advocacy. And I’d like to talk about that because we just got into one of those in Michigan. We had to help a family get connected to help. So it’s really critical that people know who can help them, especially if their child tries to go.
SPEAKER 05 :
suicide goes in the hospital and that’s a whole story and right and cpan colorado protection colorado parents advocacy network and protect kids colorado thank you gammy trent we’ve got just about 45 seconds how would you like to wrap this up
SPEAKER 20 :
Starting July 7th this week on Monday, we started importing cattle back into the United States from Mexico. They have not curtailed their screw worm problem in any way, shape or form. And we are putting U.S. cattlemen at risk by bringing these cattle in. There’s so much more to learn about the screw worm. And the fruit fly, we’ll have to talk about that next week, Kim.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Let me make a note on that. Thank you so much, Trent Luce. Greatly appreciate it. And they are always interesting conversations. Our quote for the end of the show is from Andrew Carnegie. He said, you are what you think. So just think big, believe big, act big, work big, give big, forgive big, laugh big, love big, and live big. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Like a new moon rising fierce Through the rain and lightning Wandering out into this great unknown And I don’t want no one to cry But tell them if I don’t survive
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