Dive deep into the challenges of government control over key societal sectors like transportation, education, and housing. Kim Munson takes us on a journey through the implications of increased regulation and the ever-present dynamics of freedom versus force. This episode touches on the motives of global elites, deceptive policies, and how these affect the everyday lives of individuals seeking sovereignty over their property and choices.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And when it’s Wednesdays, it’s Wings Day at Hooters restaurants. They have three locations. That is Loveland, Westminster and the location over here on Parker Road. And you buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. And that’s for to go or to dine in. They do have great specials Monday through Friday. for lunch and happy hour. Great fish and chips and great nachos, so be sure and check that out at Hooters restaurants. We are looking at these issues. We are searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And it’s not compassionate, and it’s not altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. This agenda of the World Economic Forum, which basically says, We would own nothing. Plays out the globalist elites are also pushing that through the United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, this governor. But also we are seeing this play out in local government, county government, and state government. Yesterday when we had Mark Kostelik on and Blaine Clark regarding the new zoning and land use regulations, regulations in chaffey county and it is really usurping private property rights and i really was troubled about it all day as i was thinking about it that this is happening all over our country and as one of our listeners jenny has said is that they think globally And when they think globally, they’re not thinking about America or the American idea. It’s about global control. So they’re thinking globally and acting locally. And it’s been coming for quite some time. And as we had seen, the globalists that had taken over our educational facilities as well as the media, taken over culture, But in our universities and colleges, in the public administration schools, this is what has been taught is more and more density. And the more and more density means less people own their own homes. And owning your own home property is a great way that’s created wealth for individuals for many, many years. And Trump, I think, really realizes what is going on, and he continues to do things to try to get all of this turned around. And we’ll get to a couple of those headlines here in just a minute. But remember, if something’s a good idea, it should stand on its own two feet. You do not need force to implement it. And on the show, we focus on the issues and talk about the people pushing those issues, but really try to stay out of the personalities fighting. And I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday. As I had mentioned, I’d done a whole deep dive on one of the individuals that’s really influential and very powerful here in Colorado. And as I connect the dots, though, I’m frustrated because I feel that they are betraying. They’re saying one thing to the people of Colorado and doing something different as you dig into things. And I have frustration about that. And I was trying to get my brain around that frustration. And I realize I think it’s a betrayal of the people of Colorado. And Colorado is… I really think at the tip of the spear along probably with California on the globalist lease agenda. And we need people to understand the principles of our founding and stand up for those. And so I want to focus on these issues. But I think I get frustrated when I have seen the powerful and influential on the Republican side, I think in ways betray us. And I got it. And how How do you come together when that happens? That’s the big question. So text me if you have an idea, 720-605-0647, because this is very, very important. Our word of the day is, it’s an interesting one, and I think I found it because I was, I want to say it was from maybe John Adams, but the word is chimerical. And it spells C-H-I-M-E-R-I-C-A-L. And the first definition is existing only as a product of unchecked imagination, fantastically visionary or improbable, and could be given to fantastic schemes. And then lastly, it’s relating to or derived from or being a genetic chimera containing tissue with two or more genetically distinct populations of cells but we’ll go out to number one and two and i would say that Denver Mayor Michael Johnston and this over 900 billion dollar debt package that is probably going to be on Denverites ballot this November is a chimerical It is fantastic, not in a good way scheme. And we need to say no to this because that money should stay in DeVereight’s pockets instead of going to government. And this is ballooned from $800 million. We’ll talk with Wendy Warner about this in a little bit. Excuse me, $800 million. Let me make sure that I remember it. I got to make sure if I get this right. Is it billion? We’ll talk with Wendy about that because it’s just a lot of money. I’ll put it that way. So our word of the day is chimerical, and your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. Our quote of the day is from Karl Marx. He was born in 1818, died in 1883. He was a German philosopher, political theorist, economist, journalist, and revolutionary socialist. He’s best known for his 1848 pamphlet, The Communist Manifesto, and his three-volume Das Kapital, which is a critique of classical political economy, which employs his theory of historical materialism in an analysis of capitalism and the culmination of his life’s work. And he said this, he said, “…the theory of communism may be summed up in one sentence, abolish all private property.” And that is really what we have been seeing with the World Economic Forum of You Will Own Nothing and Be Happy About It. And as I was driving in looking at all of these apartments, somebody is making money on those apartments, but people that are paying rent are not creating any additional capital for themselves, any equity. And this is all by design. And so your word of the day is chimerical. And Karl Marx’s quote is the theory of communism may be summed up in one sentence, abolish all private property. How do you do that? One of the ways is you charge people taxes and fees and take their equity, their capital that way. So that’s why we have to say no to no new debt, as Jason Bailey has indicated. And this is a pretty big deal. This is from Politico. Trump withdraws the U.S. from the woke UNESCO for a second time and says that Politico leans to the left as far as their reporting. It says the announcement is the latest development of a tug-of-war between two rival administrations over the cultural arm of the United Nations. And UNESCO stands for the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization. It says President Trump has decided to withdraw from UNESCO, which supports woke, divisive cultural and social causes that are totally out of step with the common sense policies that Americans voted for in November, White House Deputy Press Secretary Anna Kelly said in a statement. issued an executive order requiring Secretary of State Marco Rubio to review UNESCO and other international organizations which may promote radical or anti-American sentiment. The announcement is the latest development in this tug of war between the Obama-Biden administrations and the Trump administrations. The U.S. withdrew from UNESCO in 2019, citing concerns of the anti-Israel bias during Trump’s first term, but rejoined under President Joe Biden. UNESCO is the United Nations cultural arm focused on strengthening our shared humanity. It addresses global issues like climate change and artificial intelligence by conducting research and setting standards for member nations. It also oversees global heritage sites. So that is pretty interesting. Next headline I wanted to hit was from CBS Colorado. Coloradans surveyed. say no to Polis’s pedestrian bridge to celebrate the state’s 150th birthday and it said the governor set up the statewide survey asking if they wanted the 18 million dollar pedestrian bridge actually I thought it was 28 million dollars to celebrate Colorado’s 150th birthday next year. And Colorado became a state in 1876, and the governor admits he didn’t expect such a visceral reaction when he released renderings of the Colorado 150 walkway in May. He said over 93% of Coloradans do not want the bridge at the Capitol, so there will be no bridge there. And that is good news, not to spend money on that. Last segment, the federal government has been funding these multimodal transit-orientated bridges. Well, transit projects, which I continue to just, I look at this, I see empty buses, empty trains that are driving around or going up and down the rail lines. And it is money that’s just being not even frittered away. It’s just wasted away. But this federal money has been used to really push this agenda to try to get people out of their cars. which they don’t want people to own cars, private property. They want to put people in transit-orientated developments, which is rental units. Again, no private property there. And we should not be using government money to do this. And so this is from Newsweek. It says, “…Rail Project suffers a blow as Trump cuts $327 million in funding.” And he’s pulled this from Massachusetts Alston Multimodal Transportation Project after signing a law to end the Neighborhood Access and Equity Program. Democrat Governor Mara Healey and state officials confirmed the rescission, which left the state with only $8 million of the original award and prompted a strategic review of the Multimodal Infrastructure Overhaul Plan for Boston’s neighborhood. And this decision followed a recent pattern of federal infrastructure funding reversals under the Trump administration. And in July, the federal government revoked $4 billion previously earmarked for California’s, they call it the high-speed rail system, I call it the trains to nowhere. State officials and transit advocates have voiced concern that such cuts could stall or derail transportation. ambitious public transportation upgrades intended to alleviate congestion meaning getting you out of your cars and when people sit in their cars in congestion in traffic congestion they are they’re voting they’re saying I prefer this I’m willing to do this it’s not government’s role to try to to force people out of their cars in order to reduce congestion. Then there’s that word modernized travel and fuel economic revitalization in major metropolitan regions. It’s all about control. So these are some really huge things that the Trump administration is doing, and I congratulate them on doing so. We learn about this because of our sponsors that bring this show to you and, of course, all of your support as well. 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Good morning, Kim. Glad to be here.
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Well, I wanted to talk with you about Johnston’s, Mayor Mike Johnston’s proposal, and I couldn’t get my, whether or not it was million or billion, it’s close to a billion dollars. It’s $935 million in debt that is probably going to be on the ballot for Denverites this November. That’s a lot of money, Wendy.
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Yeah, it certainly is, and that’s The number as of today, but they keep adjusting it, I notice. Every time, every three or four days, they add and subtract projects. Because, of course, this bond isn’t based on a specific need. It is based on the fact that the taxes, that the other bonds previous are going to run out. And they wouldn’t want to lower the tax rate that people are paying back on those bonds. So they’re The whole purpose in having this huge, humongous bond is to make sure that they don’t have to lower the tax rate on property tax, which they would because the other bonds have been paid off.
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Okay. So, Wendy, what you’re saying is there has been a bond package that is being paid off. And people have been paying taxes on it. And so instead of lowering taxes, so, for example, if you pay your house off and your house payment goes away, then you have more money in your pocket. So that’s kind of what has happened, right, is this house payment is going to go away.
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Yes, it says so in the actual, all the write-up on the city’s website. If you go in there and read what the bond proposal is, it says taxes authorized. for bonds in 2007, 2017, and 2021 will be extended and authorized to pay for this new debt. It says without raising debt, but then it also has a little note in there that they can raise the taxes if they have to. In other words, if they have, for some reason, fall short on this. Because after all, this bond is debt. It is just like you and I with our car or our houses. We have to pay it back. They have to pay it. The city has to pay it back. And guess who that is?
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The taxpayers. Well, and you and I were talking about bond language yesterday or ballot language yesterday. And what they start off with is without increasing taxes. But yet if your taxes were going to go down because this debt was paid off, but then you end up taking on this new debt, it really is still a tax increase because your taxes would have gone down. It’s really disingenuous ballot language.
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It’s lying in my mind because you’re not really telling people what you’re doing. And I went yesterday and got my tax bill that I paid this spring. And sure enough, there’s a line that says city bond fund, you know. And I thought, boy, that’s an amount of money that I sure wish I had. And, of course, all of our in Denver, they still are increasing the appraised value of your house. So you definitely are going to be paying more anyway. So I could have used that money. I don’t know about the rest of you. But please, I hope all the listeners, if they are not in Denver, are looking at their local communities and what’s on the ballot because this is how bonds work. This exact same thing happened in Denver’s school bonds a year ago. They were just replacing the bonds that had been paid off so that the money coming in keeps coming in. And so that happens in every community.
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Well, and people had this huge property tax increase because the Gallagher Amendment, which had been in place in our Constitution to put guardrails on increases in property taxes, people have seen significant increases in property taxes. And I’m concerned, Wendy Warner, that people are ultimately going to get taxed out of their homes, right?
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Well, people that are seniors are sure feeling like that, and I’m sure it makes it harder for any young couple or young family to get into housing to begin with. It really is. It makes the total cost of housing very high. But I think the other thing about this bond that just infuriates me is that the mayor was just looking for projects to justify the bond. When they made the first announcement that they were going to have this bond on the ballot, they didn’t know what the projects were, so they went and had town meetings all over the place. Hey, folks, what do you want? What goodies can we give you? And when you read this list of projects, which, by the way, are listed by councilman district to make sure that all the The people that are councilmen and councilwomen voted for this, to put this on the ballot. You know, it’s just like this wonderful wish list of goodies. It’s not like there was something overwhelming that the city needed, you know, to extend this bond, extend the taxes. It’s made up projects of goodies, one for everybody in all the neighborhoods.
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so that everybody will vote for it. Well, and that’s why we have to shed light on this. This is from Axios. It says, the current project list, as you said, that’s a moving target, dedicates the bulk, $427, almost $428 million, to transportation and mobility. Last time I was in Denver, it didn’t look to me like they’d been spending much money on roads or bridges. but yet trying to push people out of their cars and making it more difficult for people to park, to access the businesses in Denver, but yet they want to do $428 million for transportation and mobility. What’s your thoughts about that, Wendy Warner?
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Well, we see that all the time as they narrow roads for bike paths. The latest is they want to narrow Colorado Boulevard and anybody who’s ever driven on that that it’s already full with traffic as it is, now they want to take out lanes. You know, just for buses or for bikes. It’s just a mess what they’re doing.
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And so the answer should be no. Do not give them any more money to do that. Because if you start to turn that spigot off, we can hopefully start to reclaim our state and our city and our country ultimately.
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Hey, Wendy, go ahead. I was just saying we need to send them a message the way that people did on that survey about the bridge. That you already talked about. I was one of those people that filled out that survey and saying, not only no, hell no, you know, we don’t want to spend money on that. And that’s what we have to start telling government.
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Right. We have to say no. Before we finish up here, Wendy, I wanted to say thank you to our board members. We have an amazing board, and these are all volunteers that are standing up for the taxpayer. And if you live in Colorado, you are a taxpayer because you pay sales tax and all kinds of other taxes and fees. And this group is pretty amazing, Wendy. It’s Steve Dorman, Greg Galianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, you, Wendy Warner. Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozori, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. It really is an amazing group that we get to work with.
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I agree. It really is a super group. And it is very eye-opening to be a board member and to see up close all the things that government is trying to do to us, not necessarily for us.
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Well, and government should be limited. And one of the first ways is to limit that is to turn the spigot off of the money. And that is why saying no to this bond package is so important this November. Wendy Warner, your final thought?
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Just vote no on this vibrant Denver bond for $935 million of debt.
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I agree. Vote no, and we will continue to shed light on this. Wendy Warner, thank you for all the great work that you do for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. As the Secretary of the Board, it’s a lot of work, and I really appreciate it.
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Well, thank you, Kim, for being a big part of the fight we have.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That’s KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. I wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And I really do appreciate that. They’ve been sponsors for a long time. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues. Through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something’s a good idea, shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And one of the nonprofits that I totally support is the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And a couple of things that you will want to check out at their website, which is AmericanValueCenter.org, is first of all, Drew Dix’s podcast, Words from the Silo. And today’s, he’s posting these on Wednesdays, is partisan politics. And so really, Drew has such a great perspective on so many things. So be sure and check that out. And then also, September 23rd, they’re going to be doing a training on Medal of Honor character development for secondary educators. And check that out as well. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Dr. Jill Vecchio. She is one of the few people in America that read the complete Obamacare, Unaffordable Health Care Act. And as we’re seeing this play out now in America, she was very prescient in what she was out there talking to people about. Dr. Jill Vecchio, welcome.
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Well, thank you for having me, Kim. Hello, everybody out there. Hope everybody’s doing well.
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And Jill, you and I, we really met. This was, gosh, 2011 or 12, I think it was. And Obamacare, the Unaffordable Health Care Act, was being rammed through Congress. And you were out there explaining that socialized medicine, ultimately the price goes out, the quality goes down, and the supply becomes limited. And so let’s talk a little bit, and you had a personal experience recently with what are called managed care programs, I guess?
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Well, managed care organizations, that includes a whole bunch of different things. I mean, managed care just means they’re trying to control costs by organizing or structuring a certain business model and certain insurance, what they would call like an insurance plan that you could purchase. I mean, we’ve all looked at, oh, this plan from Cigna has… this high deductible, and I have to use a network of physicians or PPO or HMO. All of those are managed care organizations. And it’s really changed a great deal from the original HMOs models that started when I was in medical school in the mid to late 80s. That was where it really started. And then we had HillaryCare. That failed. And then we got Obamacare, which was just HillaryCare 2.0. Obamacare introduced a thing called accountable care organizations. That was a huge push where they’re going to use all of these metrics. We’re going to improve quality. No, no, no. They just require you to jump through more hoops of stupid metrics that they set up like, oh, we’re going to decide whether or not a doctor is treating diabetes correctly in his patient based only on their hemoglobin a1c that’s a lab test and if the a1c doesn’t go down into a normal range then we may not pay the doctor or we may penalize the doctor not pay him as much because he’s not doing the right thing for the patient because the patient this lab test isn’t isn’t looking good Right. I mean, it’s kind of like school. It’s like school stuff where they just use the test at the end of the year or whatever for the metric to decide how well that student’s education is at that school. Right. I mean, it’s the same. It’s exactly the same model, but it’s not it doesn’t include what the patient what their diet is like. Are they taking their insulin correctly? You know, what’s their what are their habits like? Are they eating proper diets? Nothing like that. It’s only that if this number doesn’t look good, then you don’t get paid. That’s what the Accountable Care Organization garbage that was set up in an Obamacare. The regulations were through this through the roof. That’s why so many doctors ended up selling out to these huge physician groups that were then bought out. Some of them were bought out by hospital groups that Obamacare created. the monster that had then created corporate health care running everything we do in our entire health. Everything about your health is run now by corporate health care or government health care, period. And it’s kind of like you look around at everything else in your life, every other aspect in your life. You take your car in to get it fixed. You take your pet to the vet. Do you have to go through all this crap? pre-authorizations jump here oh i can’t go see this vet because they’re not in the network right it’s it’s we have turned health care into this into this venus fly trap like little shop of horrors or something that we don’t we don’t treat any other aspect of our lives like this but this was by design This was absolutely by design. Now, and the accountable care organization used Kaiser. So Kaiser California, Kaiser Colorado, Kaiser is a national organization. It’s unique in that they not only own the facilities, like own the hospitals, own the imaging centers, own the laboratories. They also own the physician practices. They employ the physicians, all the techs. all the nurses, and they offer the insurance plan as well. That’s what’s unique about Kaiser. They not only have the facilities like, I mean, Health One, you know, before they owned the facilities and stuff, but then they contracted with physicians. Now they own a ton of physicians as well, as well as all these Banner Health and all that. They own physicians. They employ physicians rather than contract with them. So they contract with some physician groups, but they also actually own them. Since Obamacare took effect, 90% of physician practices are owned by huge corporations or hospital groups. That was because of Obamacare. Only 10% of physicians have any freedoms whatsoever. Again, we’ve mentioned before, that’s how COVID could happen. That’s how they could have all that control, forcing doctors to force patients to, you know, all the force, force, force, force from the top down during COVID could only have happened because the hospital corporations owned physician practices. Therefore, they owned the physician. If the physician did not do what the corporation told him to do, the doctor could lose their credentials, lose all of their patients, no patient base, lose Their credibility, they could lose their license, and a lot of them did lose their licenses because they were then prosecuted, but they were made vulnerable because of the way the system was set up. Is that making sense to everybody?
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It does. And so, Jill, what I’m hearing, and this is one of the things that you were talking about, is that it severed that relationship between the doctor and the patient. So if you don’t have the same doctor that is seeing you through when you go into the hospital, normally, I guess in the old days, you would have your doctor saying, that was yours, that was watching everything for you. But my understanding now is you may have a different doctor that is on call, and so it’s kind of like restarting each time with a new person, whereas Health care is really an art. Everybody’s different. And so the old-time country doctors, if you will, I think it was a real art because they were able to realize each human was different and make decisions on it. So it’s really more of an art than a science. Your thoughts on that?
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Well, yeah, absolutely. And one of the main things that you mentioned earlier in that statement is we – The number one problem right now, the number one problem with what’s happened with health care in the past 65 years, 65 years, is that because thanks to the initiation of Medicare and Medicaid and government intervention, everything going through like your health care is tied to your employment, then we have the insurance companies all in the middle with government and your employer. So the person getting the care, the patient, is now bureaucratically separated by the doctor because of all of these other entities. All of these middlemen, government, health care, your employer, are all interfering in the relationship that should be just between you and your doctor because They’re the ones paying for it. We’ve created this behemoth payment system, and all of them have to make money. You think of, I mean, the health care industry is one-sixth of our economy. Well, at least it used to be. I don’t even know what it is now. I imagine it’s probably close to that. One-sixth of our economy, and most of them are middlemen, insurance companies. All of the little bureaucrats, all the regulators, all of the coding people, billing people, I mean, administrators, risk management lawyers, right? I mean, all the stuff that every healthcare system has to have. You think of the infrastructure of all of the administrative buildings, of all of these middlemen. Folks, they are middlemen. I mean, do I need some… bureaucratic entity between me and getting my car fixed. And everybody says, oh, well, human, it’s so complicated. People don’t understand. I don’t know how to fix a car. I don’t know how the thing works. I don’t know how my computer works. I got a geek squad. You know, it’s like, we have allowed this ridiculous system to be created that is unnecessary. Let me give you some examples about some of the incentives. Because we talked about some of this. So the managed care organization. So my aunt was in, and emphasize I say was, was in San Diego, California. She had Kaiser, California, which is notoriously terrible, but she, you know, she loved them. And so she got, went into heart failure, and they didn’t really do anything about it. They just set her up for another two-week appointment. Within two weeks, she was in the hospital, massive pulmonary edema, huge swelling in her legs at the Kaiser Hospital. in San Diego. This is Kaiser California. Not Kaiser Colorado, Kaiser California, although Kaiser is a national organization. But Colorado, in my opinion, has a much better reputation. Anyway, but it’s the same business model. It’s the same business model where they do the insurance, they own everything. And they are the template for Obamacare’s accountable care organizations like Banner Health that does not have a good reputation up here. Anyway, So Kaiser California, she was in the hospital for two weeks. She had a cardiologist. They never even talked to her cardiologist. The physician, the hospitalist in the hospital never even called her cardiologist to say, we have your patient here. Is there any information you can give us? No, never talked to her. Oh, because they have a whole, you know, they have a central computer system. So they know everything from that. Okay, they never even called because in their system, in a managed care, there’s that one piece of pie, right? We’ve talked about this before. One piece of pie where all the money for the treatment of every patient and paying for every lab test, paying the doctors, everybody is eating out of the same single-sized pie for each patient. So the more expensive a patient’s care is, The less the administrators get a bonus, the less everybody can get paid and all that stuff, right? So, yeah, so they never get a cardiology consult. She’s in atrial fibrillation. Her heart rate is 130 beats a minute at rest. She walked into the hospital. Within days, she’s bedridden, can’t get up to go to the bathroom, nothing. They won’t call a cardiology consult. After two weeks… They finally got a cardiology consult the day before she was admitted into hospice. And she died 10 days later.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, boy. Okay, let’s go to break. We’re talking with Dr. Jill Vecchio regarding managed health organizations and what that means for the American public. I’ll ask Dr. Jill if she sees changes on this under RFK Jr. And so we’ll continue the discussion. It happens because of our sponsors. We’ll talk with him in the next hour. And that’s Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show, and we’re going to jump right into it with Dr. Joe Vecchio. After I mentioned the USMC Memorial Foundation, they’ve got a couple of events coming up. The 48th anniversary of the memorial is August 23rd. There’s going to be a special performance by Dave Bray. And tickets, you can get that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then there is also going to be a 5K run on September 20th. So get all that information at usmcmemorialfoundation.org and support the memorial. It’s a great way to say thank you to those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. On the line with me is Dr. Jill Vecchio. She’s one of the few people that read and understood Obamacare, the Unaffordable Care Act, what that would look like, what she said would happen, is happening. And this came in from one of our listeners from GAMI. She said, our medical system was supposed to be personal and private, but it’s not anymore. It’s really dehumanizing people. And I think that she’s right on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, 100 percent. And you have to look at the whole model of a managed care organization is based on they collect a bunch of money from people. They decide what kind of care everyone will get, how much every doctor will be paid, all this. It is inherently an unethical system because the incentives are wrong. The incentives are all about minimizing care in order to make money or make the dollars go further. And somebody else is making that decision for us. We’re not making that decision. My aunt would have wanted a cardiology consult the minute she got in there. No, she didn’t get to make that decision. It is an inherently immoral and unethical business model for health care. when the incentives, the bonus structures in these things are set up such that administrators get huge bonuses if they can force their technologists and nurses and so forth to work harder. I had a very close friend who was a chief nursing officer for a big hospital. And she complained when she finally quit. because they kept asking her over and over every single year. Her bonus was based on how much work she could get out of her nurses. Can we just get them to take care of one more patient per shift? Can we just get them to do one more of this, this, and this? Can we just get them to meet this metric? Can I just, you know, constantly every single year she had to, I’m going to call it abuse her staff because I saw it happening in my breast center. The techs were expected to do more and more and more and more. The doctors were expected to do more and more and more and more that the hospital should have been paying for. I mean, the doctors were doing their own transcription at the end of it. Instead of them paying, instead of the hospital paying for it, we had to take our time and our energy to generate all the reports that they received. originally generated so it’s kind of like the hospital always had to save money save money save money that’s how the administrator and the administrators were ones that got a bonus for that not the nurses that had to work harder the administrators because they made the company more money okay do you see this change unethical system if you’re talking about health care
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you, well, so the capitalistic model would be that people will, that they would use their dollars to go to a doctor or a hospital that does a good job, and that’s how they would make money is because the market would demand that. Do you see that RFK Jr. is going to address this?
SPEAKER 10 :
I haven’t heard that anybody’s really going to address this because I haven’t heard that anybody thinks that it is the inherently the base of the problem. Nobody. Everybody’s trying to make managed care the answer to the problem. Remember Mike Pence? Well, I don’t know if you remember, but Mike Pence, part of the reason that. that everybody’s so excited about him being Trump’s vice VP was because he was a health care guy. He fixed, quote, fixed Medicaid in Indiana by turning it into a managed care organization. Well, it’s kind of like, well, at least he got something passed and he, you know, everybody’s happy with it at first. But at the same time, managed care organizations are not the answer to the problem. The answer to the problem is get the middlemen out of there as much as possible, just like we talked about. Bring it back to the patient and the doctor by posting decent, reasonable cash prices that are reflective of what the physicians are already being paid by the insurance companies and third-party payers. We’re not asking for a huge discount. Just give us the opportunity to pay you the same that you’re being reimbursed from the hospital, from third-party payers. We’re not asking for Medicaid prices, okay? But even if you did that, if you put that across the board for Medicare and Medicaid, doctors would be making great money.
SPEAKER 04 :
But that cuts out all the middle people. Exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Doctors, yes. And doctors could get, they would be incentivized to get out of those oppressive, obnoxious, you know, like weird incentive programs of the accountable care organizations, managed care organizations that have their fingers in everything the doctor can do. You can’t prescribe this medication. We don’t have, you know, we don’t contract. We don’t have that contract. You can’t have this piece of equipment because we don’t have that contract. You have to pick out a piece of crap ultrasound machine from this manufacturer instead of the one that’s really going to do the best job for you from this manufacturer because we don’t have a contract with the one you want. I mean, this is a daily thing that doctors have to deal with. God, just dump them, folks. Dump them. You’ll make better money, have more autonomy if you did not have to work with these middlemen. I don’t know why doctors are so, so frightened of it. Like, gosh, you could have so much more autonomy. You could have the freedom to see as many patients as you want, as few patients as you want. You could work two days a week, three days a week. Everybody’s like, oh, I’m just going to be tied down. I’m going to be on call all the time. You don’t have to work it out that way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so we have just about a minute left. Your aunt that passed on 10 days after she went to the hospital, did you say? Well, the whole thing took about a month.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
So was she was she in? Was she having significant health challenges? Anyway?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no, she had some pain when she was 87. I mean, she had some pain stuff, but she just got this atrial fibrillation as an outpatient. So the cardiologist Oh, yeah, you have atrial fibrillation. We’ll make a follow up appointment two weeks. I think they put her on, you know, blood thinner kind of thing. Don’t know. And then she went into massive failure. And went into the ER. They admitted her. She never walked again. Yeah. And then the whole, you know, they weren’t able to control her heart rate. And, you know, it’s not worth going into all that. But the fact is, it’s like I’d talk to these doctors. They’d be calling me because I’m over her financial affairs and stuff. Anyway, but they’d call me. I would be shaking on the phone, taking notes. I was so angry. I said to one of the doctors at the end of the call, I said, she was a resident. And I said, please do not use Kaiser Permanente as your template for how you practice medicine. Please, God, don’t do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow, okay. And this is, Jill, this is your personal experience on that. We’re out of time, but Dr. Jill, we’ll have you on again next month. We’re talking about health care. And, wow. Okay, Dr. Jill, thank you. Okay, thank you, Kim. Take care, everybody. And our quote for the end of the show is Frederick Bastiat, who said this, Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was in the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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And a powerful show again for you today. A lot of great information. And it comes to you because of all of our sponsors and because of all of you. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. And the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday on all KLZ platforms. That’s KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And then you can listen to the show via Spotify and iTunes as well. And so be sure and check all of that out. Our word of the day is chimerical. It’s spelled C-H-I-M-E-R-I-C-A-L. It’s an adjective. It could be existing only as the product of unchecked imagination or fantastically visionary or improbable. I would say that Mayor Mike Johnson of Denver and his spending proposals are chimerical. Your challenge is to use the word in a sentence today. It can also be given to fantastic schemes, or number three relating to, derived from, or being a genetic chimera containing tissue with two or more genetically distinct populations of cells. So your challenge is to use the word chimerical in a sentence today. Our quote of the day is from Karl Marx, and we are seeing under the guise of the narrative of climate change. That’s why check out a Climate Conversation documentary, which you can find at climateconversation.com. Because that narrative has been used by the United Nations and globalist elites to maintain control and take property away from everyday hardworking Americans. And how is that done? It’s by taking property via taxes or fees or regulations or easements. and a perfect example was when we talked with Mark Kostelic and Blaine Clark yesterday regarding the land use rewrite of the codes in Chaffey County which really prevents people to be able to use their property the way they want to so if you own your property but can’t use your property you really don’t own your property And so there’s been a lot of different ways that our property is being taken from us. And of course, taxes and fees is a way to take your hard-earned dollars from you as well. But this is what Karl Marx said. He was born in 1818. He died in 1883. He said, “…the theory of communism may be summed up in one sentence, abolish all private property.” Then three headlines that I hit this morning that I think are important is the first one is that Trump has issued an executive order requiring Secretary of State. Well, actually, yeah, that was in February to review UNESCO and other international organizations. And with that, Trump has said that we are going to withdraw from the woke UNESCO for a second time. The second headline is Governor Polis was proposing a, I think it was a $28.5 million pedestrian bridge across, well, from the Capitol over to the park across the street. And he was getting a lot of pushback on it. So he said, I’m going to do a survey. Well, the Coloradans responded and they said no to that pedestrian bridge. So that’s not going to happen. Good for you. And then the Trump administration continues to rescind money that’s been earmarked for transportation projects, multimodal projects. And this one, he pulled $327 million in federal funding from Massachusetts Alston Multimodal Transportation Project and realized that if the people of Massachusetts want that particular project. They should tax themselves to do that, not be looking to the federal government, which is either taking money from their neighbors for their project or taking on debt that our children and our grandchildren have to pay. And they don’t even have a voice in that. So good for Donald Trump on that. He also said that the federal government is not going to give $4 billion to the train to nowhere out in California. And I really congratulate President Trump for doing that. One of our great sponsors is Lorne Levy. He is an expert regarding mortgages. He works with a lot of different companies, so there’s a lot of different choice. And he can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. And Lorne Levy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 20 :
Hey, good morning.
SPEAKER 04 :
And next week, the Fed meets. Any crystal ball predictions on what’s going to happen with the 10-year Treasury, which actually affects mortgage rates?
SPEAKER 20 :
You know, I wish I did. I’m watching headlines like everybody else. I know there’s pressure, not necessarily from anyone in particular, but I know some of the Federal Reserve guys have spoken lately just when they’re allowed to that they think there might be a time to move in July. So I think the percentage likelihood has gone up a little bit. I just don’t know how much it’s gone up. So it wouldn’t surprise me to see either way, quite frankly, that they lower or they don’t do anything again. because the data for the economy is holding up strong, but there’s a lot of pressure from the outside to cut rates. So either way it could go. Again, like everyone else, I want it to go down because that’s good for business, but I just don’t know what’s going to happen.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, Ann, this was posted on The Hill this morning at 4 a.m. our time. It says Trump backs off on Powell threats for now. So Trump has really been – well, he’s been calling for Jerome Powell to step down as chairman of the Fed. And I saw a picture of Jerome Powell. He looks like he’s aged a lot lately.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, my God, yeah. That’s what I always say. Yeah. It’s a tough job. It’s a stressful job because of this – it’s thankless kind of like you know people always looking at you like you did something wrong um but that’s a lot of government jobs i mean i remember george w bush when he went in and when he came out after eight years and he looked like he’d been there for 40. um so it seems to happen to a lot of these guys yeah well does does the president who decides on who is the uh fed chair is it that’s the thing it’s an appointed position And so he’s not supposed to fire him. He really can’t. If he fired him, he might leave, but then he could push back and say, no, you don’t have the right to fire me, and it would go further. People forget that Donald Trump was the one that appointed Powell in the first place in his first term. So he is a Trump appointee. And then now he doesn’t like the way he’s been performing. So I don’t really know that he can fire him. He can certainly bluster a lot and try to get him to quit. But if he does fire him, he might just step aside because it would be a circus. But he could also say, no, you don’t have the right to do that and fight it. He only has, I want to say, six to eight months left in his term anyhow. And so Trump will get to appoint the next one as well. And they’re already talking about who that might be. But Trump, I think the biggest thing people forget, it’s not so much that Trump wants mortgage rates to go down, it’s why he wants to lower rates. Because a quarter point here, a half point there is not going to do anything. a ton right away to lower mortgage rates. But where it really will help is on the debt. And it’ll cut the interest that our country owes on our debt by a lot every time they move the rate down. So that’s really what he wants because, you know, there’s been a lot of controversy on the big beautiful bill as to how much debt it might cause. And either way, it would cut the interest payments on all the debt if they lowered rates.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And who are they talking about as a possible replacement?
SPEAKER 20 :
They’ve interviewed a few guys. When you watch Fox News, Fox Business News Channel, or even CNBC, those guys they talk to, I really don’t know. I don’t know a lot of these guys, to be honest, Kim, because they’re behind the scenes. They’re not big-time politicians. Some of them are Wall Street guys. Some of them are guys that are in the administration now. So I don’t really know. Even when I see them and I hear them, I don’t remember their names, just honestly.
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Okay, okay. So here in our metro real estate market, and actually you can help people in 49 of the 50 states, we are seeing inventory and in anticipation of maybe something might happen. It would be good for people. They’ve got a lot of opportunity right now regarding inventory. buying a home to pre-qualify. So what’s the best way for people to reach out to do that? And what’s that process look like?
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It’s free. It’s easy. The best way to do it is to call us at 303-880-8881. And I will say what we’re seeing now more, Kim, is especially with older folks who are age appropriate for reverse mortgages, it’s really hard to refinance right now when the rates are at like 7% and even a little higher if you want to take cash out of your home. So equity is holding up so far. We’re not seeing a big fall in home prices here. So yes, there’s a lot of inventory for sale out there, but also we’re seeing calls more and more for reverse mortgages because people want to be able to access what is oftentimes their largest asset and be able to get some of those funds. And so that’s always an opportunity as well.
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Okay. And again, what’s your number? 303-880-8881. Okay, Lorne Levy, thank you so much, and I think you and Karen are going to be in studio next week, so we’ll be looking forward to that.
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All right, perfect. Thank you so much.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That’s kimmunson.com. It is Wednesday, so that means it’s a Trent Luce Wednesday. Trent Luce is a sixth-generation farmer and rancher who has been shedding light on the issues that the people that feed and fuel us are facing. And he’s been doing that for at least 20 years. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
We’re bumping on 26. It’s been 25. Thanks, Kim.
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Oh, my gosh. Time flies when you’re having fun, huh? And there’s a lot to talk about. But the other day, this last weekend, Trent, I had two young people that knocked on my door. They were asking for donations to an organization called Heifer International, like the cow, the heifer. And very nice and very, just very fervent in wanting to do something to help the world, if you will. The program is to try to, they say that they’re trying to reduce hunger in the world, which I love. But I said to them, and it’s been at least four or five years since I’ve looked at it, but my gut feeling is it was one of these globalist organizations that sounded good, but that there’s really this globalist agenda behind it. So I said to them just that, that I hadn’t looked at it, but I felt there was this globalist kind of political agenda and that I wasn’t going to give anything at this time, but I really do believe in eradicating racism. hunger and poverty. And the young woman said, gosh, nobody said that to us before. And so I pulled out my phone. I was trying to get some information. I couldn’t nail anything down. And so I thought, I’m going to ask Trent Luce what he thinks about Heifer International.
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So Heifer International, I used to spend a lot of time on this and things like this, Kim. And honestly, until You and I talked about we were going to talk about this yesterday. I hadn’t given HEPA International a lot of thought, and I didn’t do a lot more digging other than I do know there are many global partners like GlobalCitizen.org, which are partners and bragging about being partners with HEPA International since 2015. And on the surface, you’re right. You give money. They go buy a goat. and they provide a goat to a community or a cow or whatever the case may be, in theory, all of that sounds ideal because you don’t want to give somebody a handout. You want to give them something that enables them to provide their own essentials of life. And yet it just seems like I had the same exact feel that you have, and I’ve had that from the get-go when I actually learned about it. Where’s the accountability on the amount of money that you give and how it actually goes to help people in the numbers of the mass amount of money. It seems as though we come up with all of these great ideas that revolve around food and fuel, and yet I don’t know where the accountability is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good point. And I was just doing some additional looking around on their website, and I’d missed this as I had done this quick look at this. But when it gets, if you get down to, and again, this sounds great, and you have these young people that they’re out there, they’re asking for money. And the other thing that she said is that whatever money I would give, they had somebody that was going to match that nine times, right? And I thought, wow, that’s a lot. Who is that person? And in some ways, these organizations are doing data gathering, although I’m not sure you have to do that anymore by going door to door because it’s all being collected on us anyway. But now as I get down to some of their focus areas, one of them is climate and environment. And as I look down here a little further, It says that in 2023, heifer programs are estimated to have sequestered carbon equivalent to taking about 2.3 million cars off the road. I’m thinking maybe that’s bingo there. What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I thought you would keep digging and get to the other part that should be most concerning to everybody. Since I think the year was 2017, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation have partnered with Heifer International, and I quite frankly don’t know. It’s tailor-made for Bill Gates, and I’m guaranteeing you he’s one of those people that’s giving that money to match. And that guy doesn’t do anything that benefits humanity, benefits himself, and garners control. And that data mining you talk about, I really think that’s the driving force.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. And so I, yeah, I think that my gut feeling was on that. Correct, as well as and you, you add in the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and they have not really been that interested in having everyday people thrive and prosper. But this is what’s so fascinating about these organizations. Here I have these young, fresh-faced young people that they’re going door to door because I think deep down they care about, they think that they’re doing something to help people, to help eradicate poverty and hunger. when, in essence, it’s pushing this globalist agenda. And the globalists are pretty smart on this in a diabolical way.
SPEAKER 15 :
42.5 million from Bill and Melinda Gates in 2008 to Heifer International. So I want to spend a moment on that because, you know, 25 years ago, you mentioned how long I’ve been doing this. I got started because I was genuinely concerned about the misinformation that the animal rights community was sharing about animal agriculture. I’m sixth generation, and every generation we’ve been about animal agriculture in my family, and it’s really what drives humanity. And I can walk through that at any point in time. But I knew that these folks had this angst, and they moved away from animal rights as much as it was back 20 years ago, but we still had this drive to eliminate Just put this into context. Heifer International is promoting the way that we sustain communities is buy a cow for people to milk and make a living from, not make a living, but generate their food, their nutrition. And yet in the United States, every day we deal with some issue that tries to eliminate cows from our life. So if Heffrey International is taking the only money they get to buy a cow to improve humanity, why are we trying to get rid of cows?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, that’s a good point.
SPEAKER 15 :
And then what I learned by this animal rights, because when there was an animal rights convention, I would go. I would just go. I wanted to meet the people. I remember one very clearly. A couple hundred people showed up in Alexandria, Virginia. at an animal rights convention, and I just want to listen and talk to people. And what you described, those two young people who have no ill intent whatsoever, that is exactly what I found. And I use Kate as the example all the time because there literally was a Kate. And she walked up to me because I write on my tag when I’m at an event like that, Trent Luce, sixth generation livestock farmer. I want them to know I raised livestock. I’m proud of that. And every day, the first day, they’re kind of standoffish. Second day, they start kind of like, oh, I’ve got to talk to this guy. There’s something going on. He’s still here. And this young lady, she’s probably 20 years old. Her name is Kate. She’s from Detroit. She came up to me. She said, are you really a farmer? I said, yes, proud to be sixth generation in livestock. And she said, I always wondered what would happen if I met a farmer. And you think about how disconnected that person is. But what these NGOs thrive on is taking the innocence, and they really go after a demographic of young people who grew up in affluent families who haven’t done work. They didn’t need to go to work. They didn’t work at XYZ fast food shop. They didn’t work at a gas station. They lived off mom and daddy’s dime. And they get into college, and all these other friends that they have, they had a job or they did something. They’re like, oh, man, I got to have something I stand for. I got to have something I’m doing to make life better. I love my dog. I wonder what I can do to help dogs. So then they go to the Internet and they search and they find out, you know, there’s this poverty situation in East Africa. Well, that sounds like a great deal. I’m going to go help. So these organizations go for the public for profit by using the innocence of these young people who just want to make a better place in the world.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that that is the case. And so as I am digging deeper into this Heifer International, what you and I had both researched about four or five years ago is still out there. And that is the other thing. So with all these different organizations, I remember my father. He said, I farm because I want to take care of my family and I want to feed other human beings. I want to feed the world. And don’t you remember at the back of magazines many times there would be an advertisement. It would be some little African child that looked like the child needed food and say, help us farm. eradicate hunger throughout the world. And we were getting darn close to that before the globalist elites agenda kicked in, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 15 :
I actually have numbers. In 1920, there were 2 billion people on the planet. 80% of the 2 billion people were considered food insecure. 2025, there are 8 billion people on the planet. And 20% of the people on the planet are considered food insecure. We have made massive strides in eliminating food insecurity. And now that’s all at risk because of what you just said there and what we discuss on a regular basis.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the globalist elites think that there’s too many people. And they don’t want people to thrive and prosper. So that’s one of the reasons there’s this disconnect between with what Heffer International on the surface says that they want to do is to help people and help them thrive and prosper. But yet the people, the globalist elites behind that, that’s not really where they’re at. And so I do think that it’s… Well, the other thing is if they get your buy-in, you’ve given money to the organization, then you’re going to get all of their emails and all of their indoctrination. And that’s one of the reasons why they had somebody that’s going to match your giving strategy. Nine times, if you can believe it. So we’re going to continue the discussion with Trent Luce. We have all these discussions because of our sponsors. But we talk about freedom all the time. And financial freedom, economic freedom is so important. And it starts with the right guide. And Mint Financial Strategies can help. As an independent firm with over 25 years of experience and their credentials of an accredited investment fiduciary, they offer advice that’s focused on you, not a sales quota. Their strategy-first approach is all about helping you live life on your terms with clarity, confidence, and control. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080, your path to independent financial confidence.
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SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That’s KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And the two nonprofits that I feature on a regular basis on the show, first of all, is the Center for American Values, which they are doing amazing work. The center is located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. And A couple of things that are occurring right now is Drew Dix, one of the co-founders, is doing a podcast. And his most recent podcast is, I think it’s regarding partisan politics. And that was posted this morning. So check that out at AmericanValueCenter.org. And then also the USMC Memorial Foundation website. has a couple of events coming up. One of those in August to celebrate their 48th anniversary. So get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org and the Center for American Values is americanvaluescenter.org. Trent Luce is on the line, sixth generation farmer and rancher. We’re talking about a global nonprofit called Heifer International. And the premise behind it is to help people in third world countries thrive and prosper by buying them a goat or a calf that they can raise and that they can use for food and maybe a business. And that all sounds like a really great idea. There’s the however on that, Trent Luce. And Ben, one of our listeners, said that heifers create emissions and And then I just mentioned on their website that they said that they were able to lower the emissions equivalent to 2.3 million cars. How do we connect that dot, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 15 :
First of all, emissions enable plant life and continued growth. People know that. They continue to lie so they can control food and fuel supplies. And I’m just, anybody who tells me today about clean energy, anybody that tells me today about Whatever is contributing to emissions, I just remind them that the four greenhouse gases that the United States government is trying to mitigate and reduce are all for plant food. At the top of that list is CO2. And we’re trying to eliminate our plant food. What does that tell us?
SPEAKER 04 :
Definitely. Next thing Ben also did, he asked the question, then he answered it. He said, what percentage is going to administrative costs? Then he did a little work. 28% for administrative and fundraising costs. That’s a lot.
SPEAKER 15 :
That is a lot, although I expected it to be on the top side of 50%, to be honest. Well, that’s what… Ben’s doing great work here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Ben is doing great work. That’s another thing that I did learn, though, when I was serving on the board of Lutheran Family Services, is sometimes they have a line item for administrative costs, then they have a line item for development costs, and then they may take some of those administrative costs and push them out to the different programs because that supposedly is helping administrate those particular programs. And so it can be, I don’t know for sure what they’re doing exactly, but it can be a sleight of hand from an accounting standpoint.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, because we have had websites that go through 990s. Everybody who does this type of work submits a 990. You go through the website or you can go to a website that will give you all of this data. And you’re exactly right. They have their administrative costs, but then they have an administrative fee that that is tied to the implementation. It’s not called administrative. It’s implementation fee so that we can hide this somewhere else. I would be willing to bet an organization like this is that 50% goes to the people that work there not to benefit families that are trying to promote and put in their brochures. And I clearly remember that Ethiopian pot-bellied kid that was so used back in the 70s and 80s to be that kid that represented the challenges in feeding the world.
SPEAKER 04 :
And people contributed. They gave money to these different organizations because we care about people. And that model where people gave money of their own money instead of big government programs is important. But yet that was also used to create these government programs as well. And I really like the fact that Trump is walking this back. This whole thing with him getting out of UNESCO, I think, is huge.
SPEAKER 15 :
I would like to have some numbers because I believe it would just appall people if they knew the amount of money that was given to a nonprofit for the benefit of animals as opposed to people. Because I can tell you the two largest animal rights organizations in the United States, not the world, in the United States, have annual operating budgets equivalent to half a billion dollars, $500 million. And that’s just two of them, Kim.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think Dennis Prager said this. I’m going to attribute it to him. He said that people that love children normally love animals, but not all people that love animals love children. And that has been one of the big disconnects that I’ve seen, that people that care about animals, which is great, but yet are very pro-abortion. I’ve thought that’s a big disconnect. I don’t think people have really thought that through.
SPEAKER 15 :
I am yet to meet someone in an animal rights environment, whether that be just in my everyday communications, my travel, at a convention, whatever the case may be, who did not emulate what you just said. They do not want me to take the life of an animal to improve and sustain human life. but they are all about abortion and killing a baby of their own. That just fundamentally is flawed.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it is. And it’s really been through indoctrination, through culture, our education system. And that’s why the work that you’re doing, the work that we’re doing here is to engage in this culture battle, this battle of ideas is so important. We’ve got just a few minutes left. We’ve got something very special for the very last segment of the show. So just tell us what you’re up to this week. What’s the other thing that you’d like people to know about?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I had the opportunity. I was alerted by a radio listener actually in Yarrington, Nevada, about Papa Jake. And Papa Jake was 102 years old. I had him on all of my shows in December and did it virtually. And the funniest thing I want to tell you about Papa Jake is, you know, he’s 102. And when we started, I said – Jake, I’d sure like to get 20 minutes out of you because that’s what Trent on the Loose needs is about 20 minutes of content, right? Kim, an hour and a half later, I said, Papa Jake, I got to go. And Papa Jake is what was reported as the last survivor of Omaha Beach and D-Day. In fact, he walked through how he was in charge of the command that night on the beach and And he was just an amazing man. Grew up on a farm, Owatonna, Minnesota. We hit it off right away. I just wish I could have been sitting there with him instead of doing it virtually. He became this TikTok superstar with over a million followers. And he had a granddaughter that was just fantastic at making all of that happen. But his wit and his wisdom and the experiences that he brought. We lost Papa Jake last Thursday, so… I’ll be doing a tribute to him this week on my broadcast. He represents and embodies, and I know you’ve got a tribute coming up for Colonel Rutledge, which is absolutely, there is so much wisdom in the people of that generation. I hope all of us stop for a moment and spend some time just listening to people who have been there and done that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, absolutely. And so stay tuned. Yes, today is Colonel Rutledge’s 97th birthday. And Colonel Rutledge, I got to know him through a good friend of mine, Laurie, up in Fort Collins. And Colonel Rutledge has traveled the world. And so we’re going to give him a little shout out here. And we get to do this because of our sponsors. If you have been injured, be sure and reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome back. It is a great day to be alive, and today is a very special day. It is the 97th birthday of Colonel Bill Rutledge, and you know him. He’s a regular guest on the show, and he’s traveled the world. He has this interest in everyday people and places. And he will give me a call. He said, Kim, I just finished this book on, I think this would be really interesting for your listeners. He had connected me with the people back in Williamsburg. And we had one of the guys that reenacts Lafayette as one of our guests. And it makes the show richer with all of this great information that he shares with us. Colonel Bill Rutledge is on the line. Colonel Rutledge, happy birthday.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 04 :
And we’ve got some special people lined up, and if you would like to text me a happy birthday to Colonel Rutledge, do that at 720-605-0647. But first up to wish you happy birthday is Trent Luce. So, Trent Luce, what do you have to say to Colonel Rutledge?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, happy birthday. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your leadership and continuing to live young. But I’m going to just come and sit down with you and sit and have a chat for like an hour one day, if that’s okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’d be good. You’ll have to come up to Fort Collins.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t care where I got to go. I have wheels. I have a mule. If I can’t get fuel, Colonel Rutledge, I can ride my mule to see you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. That would be great.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Hey, Trent, thanks so much. And we’re going to organize these lines because we have other people ready to say happy birthday. So, Trent, have a good week. We’ll talk with you next week.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks, guys.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let’s celebrate America by saying thank you to our veterans.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Brad Beck is on the line. Brad Beck, I know that you have a very special pair of cufflinks that had been Colonel Rutledge’s. Brad Beck, welcome.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, thank you, Kim, and happy birthday, Colonel Ledledge. It’s always a privilege to hear your voice and to get the wisdom and just the enthusiasm for life every time I hear you, and I am so grateful for the gift you gave to Kim to give to me when you said you don’t know who to give these to, and I have those cufflinks that have the Toastmasters International emblem on them, and I’ve wore them several times, and almost channeling you every time I wear them. So thank you for your service. Thank you for your kindness. And thank you for what you’ve done for our great American country as we come into 250 years.
SPEAKER 16 :
I want to mention something to you. Those cufflinks were given to me at the Air Force Academy. I was a member of the Toastmasters Club there, and I was leaving there, coming up to CSU for another assignment, It was sort of a going-away gift, and I held on to them all these years until I gave them to Kim, who gave them to you. So they’re good luck charms.
SPEAKER 12 :
They are, and I’m so grateful for them and for you and how you’ve enriched everybody who listens to Kim’s shows. Many stories that you’ve told, I had the privilege of listening to your great-grandfather, Colonel James Wilson Browne. last night, and it just brought a big smile to my face. So thank you, sir, for all you have done.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you for calling.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Next up is Sandra Lahl. She’s one of our very loyal listeners. Sandra, what’s your thoughts?
SPEAKER 06 :
Good morning, Kim, and dear Colonel Rutledge, happy birthday. I have a little verse here for you. Your birthday… is rich in reminders of the Heavenly Father’s love for you. And I am so grateful for you. You walk us down memory lane. You share these beautiful experiences with us. You are a gift to us in the Kim Munson KLC family. Thank you. Happy birthday. Have a glorious day.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you, and I’m blessed with two great ladies, my mother and my wife of 69 years.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. I love it when you take us down memory lane. It’s like going through a little time capsule with you, that we’re walking alongside with you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I actually believe in guardian angels, and I truly believe that that’s my mother.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. Yes. Yes. Sandra, thank you so much. And so Colonel Rutledge, we’ve got some others, and I wanted Joe. I know Joe has some wishes that he’d like to give for you as well, but he’s working on the lines on this, and we’ve got a couple of other people that we will have. But while we’re waiting to do that, give us a reflection of 97 years.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, people ask me sometimes, how did you get this far? And I say often good genes and good luck, but also good friends and the two ladies of my life, my mother, who I truly believe is a guardian angel, and my wife, Virginia, 69 years together and seven years before that as teenagers. So all of these people have contributed greatly. to me being here on the phone with you today.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and we are blessed to do so. We have another person on the line, Yvonne Piaz. Yvonne, what’s your wishes for Colonel Rutledge?
SPEAKER 07 :
Happy birthday, Colonel Rotledge. I have enjoyed your interviews and stories on the Kim Munson Show so much. So from an Army gal to a great Air Force guy, happy birthday. Thank you for your service, and many, many more birthdays to come.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you, and I hope your Army days were as pleasant and rewarding as mine were in the Air Force.
SPEAKER 07 :
A true adventure they were. So thank you. I’m sure there’s others who want to wish you a happy birthday. Happy birthday, sir.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
And this is coming in on the text line. This is from Gammy. She said, happy birthday, Colonel Rutledge, and thanks for showing us getting older does not mean stop fighting for America. We stay strong. So that’s from Gammy. This is coming in. And this, I think this is from Ben. He says, happy birthday, Colonel Rutledge. Thank you for making this world a better place. God bless you. And again, if you have birthday wishes, 720-605-0647, 720-605-0647. And Colonel Rutledge, what are you going to be doing today?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I’ve already walked my dog and fed her. And at 10 o’clock, I have an appointment with the dentist. That was set up six months ago, not knowing that there would be anything else in conflict. And this is not in conflict because it’s at 10 o’clock local time. And my son and his wife are going to come over and we’re going to have lunch together. And then I will continue writing about the storms. in 1900 in Galveston, Texas.
SPEAKER 04 :
And we will be doing a show on that in September, which is right around the corner, because that’s when the Galveston flood was, and you said, Kim, we need to talk about that. We have another caller on the line with us, and that is Alan Thomas. Alan, welcome.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, thanks for having me, Kim, and happy birthday, Colonel Rutledge.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
It was very providential that Kim said it was your birthday this weekend because I turned the TV on and the Open was on this weekend. And I remembered to call it the Open because you always give us such interesting pieces of knowledge. And you were just top of my mind this weekend anyway because of everything going on. So thank you for always bringing your insights and being so prepared and passing along history. I always love learning history from you.
SPEAKER 16 :
I learn more than you learn because I try to research things before I share them with those in the KLZ audience.
SPEAKER 14 :
You do. You know, when I got to interview you, when I guest hosted, I was amazed by how much you had prepared. And I just wish we always had so much longer to get through all of it. You have so much to pass along.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is. It’s great information. Alan, thanks so much for your call in as well. And Ron, one of our callers, had called in to say happy birthday. Also, Colonel Rutledge. We’ve got a couple of minutes left. On your 97th birthday, what’s your message to Coloradans and Americans?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I feel that people should have a good attitude and work hard and be kind to people that they associate with.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think those are great words to live by, Colonel Rutledge. So we wish you a very happy birthday. And actually, Joe, now that we’ve got all of the lines, I think you had something that you wanted to say as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
I just wanted to say happy birthday, Colonel Rutledge, and thank you for the fountain of knowledge that you are. I learn something every time we talk, and we get to talk pretty often sometimes, and it is always something new. So thank you so much for the knowledge.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it’s always a pleasure to make contact with you. And as I said, I learned a great deal. And I’m very fortunate that I’ve had the opportunity to work with you and with Kim because it’s made more meaning to my life.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you are enriching listeners and our lives. This is coming in from a listener as well, wishing Colonel Rutledge a very happy birthday. Thank you for your service, sir. You are a great American. I hope your birthday is filled with everything that makes you smile and maybe a little cake and ice cream too. Another listener, and that’s from Lynn. And so Colonel Rutledge, my life is richer because we have met. I’ve learned so much from you and we become friends. And I appreciate your support of all that we do and that your curiosity, I think that’s one of the things that has kept you so young, is your curiosity about people and and places and our history. And these are the things that we need to hold on to as we are looking forward to reclaim this Colorado that we love in this, what I call the third founding of America. So happy birthday, Colonel Rutledge.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you. Kim, I want to mention something. One of the gentlemen called me last week, and he apparently is going to be a candidate for governor, or at least he’s going to probably be in the primaries. And I asked him if he knew Kim Munson. He said, Oh, yes, I’ve been on our program several times. And he was really soliciting my support. And I told him, I said, Look, we have the primaries ahead of us. And the key is this, I am going to support whoever Kim supports, because she knows more about the government than anyone that I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. Okay. Well, stay tuned on that. So, Colonel Rutledge, have a blessed day, and we will talk to you very soon.
SPEAKER 16 :
Very good. Thank you. Thank you. Goodbye.
SPEAKER 04 :
And our quote for the end of the show is from Frederick Bastiat, who said this, life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 17 :
I don’t want no one to cry, but tell them if I don’t.
SPEAKER 19 :
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