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In this episode, we tackle a wide array of topics that every car enthusiast and owner will find valuable. From understanding when to repair or replace your car’s glass to learning about the intricacies of maintaining your vehicle’s air filters and tires, our experts provide clear and actionable advice. Additionally, we cover the importance of safe driving practices and keeping your car’s interior and exterior in top shape.
SPEAKER 21 :
Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
SPEAKER 19 :
It is a trick question. Watch this. A Chevy didn’t make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn’t come out till 62. And it wasn’t offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
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Get ready for another hour of Drive Radio, brought to you by Colorado’s select auto care centers. Got a question for the experts? Then give them a call, 303-477-5600. Now it’s time to pop the hood and get our hands dirty. Drive Radio on KLZ 560 The Source.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. We are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Patch Knight from Alltech Automotive with us today up in Fort Collins. Josh Goff from Fort Collins, Boulder, Longmont as well. And then we’ve also got Kent from Sterling up at Novus. We appreciate all you guys listening to us and being with us today as well. the Rocky Mountain Airport. It’s a live remote, as we have been talking about here for several weeks, and it’s a car show, the Rocky Mountain Car Show and Swap Meet. So, again, if you’re looking for an old part and you want to come by and look for that part, you might actually find it here, and there are hundreds of cars. I’m not saying that to exaggerate. There’s a ton of cars, ton of people, and it’s a beautiful day, by the way. If you want to get out and about and see a lot of great cars and just enjoy the weather, bring the family. It is a great event. One of my good friends up in Greeley also told me on the plate thing that we were talking about earlier, a stolen plate, that had a plate stolen several years ago and fortunately had submitted a police report. Then after a few months, started receiving parking tickets from the city of Denver. The report saved me. Side note, I begged them to impound the vehicle they claimed was mine. Not sure if that ever happened. Good job, Brent. That’s awesome, by the way. All right, let’s go to Jeff in Montana. Jeff, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, good morning again. My inquisitive brain has been working overtime, so I have a question for Kent and then a couple of questions for the rest of you guys. Kent, I’ve been waiting for you to come on because I had a glass repair question. I had probably around three-quarter of a question. circle impact in the window. I put tape over it right away and the guy went and repaired it, but the circle didn’t disappear. It just caused me to have a question of at what point I know little tiny ones can disappear. At what point do the bigger ones tend to stay visible?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it depends on the amount of damage to the glass. I mean, obviously, if it’s too big, you’re always going to see it. I like to go if it’s a quarter size or smaller, it should be able to be fixed. And then also the location on the window. If it’s in front of the driver’s view, you’ve got to look at it all day long. You’ll never like it. It’ll never be gone. If it’s over on the passenger side at the bottom, it’ll be hidden pretty much. And it depends on the technician doing it is kind of the result you get. If you get a good technician who knows what he’s doing, you’ll have a pretty good repair where it’s 90% gone. They’re never completely gone, but you can get it down. And one like that with a half moon or a circle on it, I could make that hidden for you so you’d hardly notice it. But if you get a new technician who doesn’t know how, you’re still going to see it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, on the passenger side, it’s probably about a dollar size.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, if it’s too big, they’re extremely hard to hide. So, I mean, we try to pre-screen it, make sure it’s a decent size and it’s doable before we fix them. If it’s too big, it’s too big. Then it’s time to replace it. And we do hundreds of rock chips, so we’ve seen about every shape, size, and color of them, I think.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I was amazed at how much perfect the circle was. It was very symmetrical. But, yeah, okay, I didn’t want to have unrealistic expectations. I just don’t think I did.
SPEAKER 12 :
And something like that is more just a big air pocket in there. You know, if you do that one right, even though it’s big, you could hide most of that. And the guy you had probably just didn’t know what he was doing or didn’t do it good enough. So we pre-screen everything we work on just to make sure it’s doable. And we explain to the customer what’s going to happen, what it’s going to look like. You know, if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. If that’s what you want, we can make it happen. And some customers expect it perfect, like it’s going to be gone completely. That doesn’t happen very often. So we pre-qualify it, tell them exactly what they’re going to get.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Yeah, I didn’t have it over a large expectation of, so, and it’s, It’s not cracking anymore, and that was really kind of the main goal because it’s on a net 20 bridge line and, you know, cameras and everything would make it even more tricky.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. Absolutely. And the next thing with these windshields getting so high priced, fix all that you can fix. Right. So you don’t have to replace that windshield and have it recalibrated every time. Absolutely. So you can put up with a little bit of minor cosmetic damage like that and keep driving it until the next one hits you.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and up here, rock damage season is all year round. I mean, it doesn’t seem to matter.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, pretty much here, too. It’s not anymore. It used to be here, you know, winter was worse than summer, but there’s so many. You know, gravel trucks running around and debris on the roads and so on, Jeff, that for here it’s year-round now as well. It used to be more wintertime, but that’s not the case anymore.
SPEAKER 12 :
You add road construction.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right. It’s all the time. It doesn’t matter. It’s all the time. They were road-a-mill on I-25. You know, they’ve been doing that right now as we speak. And so, you know, they’ll do it in a lane at a time. And the parts that, as you know, you try to sweep up, and they do, they try to sweep as much up as they can on the road-a-mill. But the reality is there’s still a certain amount left, and as people change lanes, some of that asphalt will come off of the lip there that’s going from, you know, one lane to the other. And no matter what, Jeff, that stuff’s still flying around. Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Good questions. So that brings me to my next question, which was you guys were talking about cat air filters before. It prompted a question in my mind that I know for regular air filters, it would be really, really stupid to try to clean the filter, vacuum out any dirt and debris and stuff because, I mean, there’s so much air that flows in for a long period of time. It’s basically using TOS. But on a cabin air filter, particularly when you were talking about pollen clogging it, would it be worthwhile to try to clean it rather than just replace it? I mean, would you see any value in that or is it just a TOS?
SPEAKER 05 :
They’re so cheap, just replace it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
What I like to do, though, sometimes is actually vacuum out the box because a lot of times when you pull that filter out, the leaf that it was sat on top of it falls in the fan and it makes a terrible noise. Right. The box that holds the filter itself. Exactly, the box itself. Yep, suck all that out. I agree. Get all that out of there because there’s all kinds of stuff that will fall down in the fan and get pushed through.
SPEAKER 05 :
And again, really quick, just to reiterate this, Jeff, and make sure people may be joining us now that didn’t hear before, the best way to keep that, cabin air filter clean especially from the bigger debris that josh is talking about is keep your vehicle clean try to avoid parking under trees where some of those leaves and stuff will even fall i mean there’s a little bit of proactiveness you can do to help with some of this and the cleaner you keep the vehicle i’m sorry to focus on this but it’s true the cleaner the vehicle is the cleaner that cabin air filter is yep very true
SPEAKER 17 :
Super. Okay. And then my third question is really kind of a science project. You were talking earlier about four-wheel drive and needing to change tires once diameters get beyond a certain point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 17 :
But the question in my mind is when you have a car – well, every car has – when you turn, the inside wheels go – slower or less of a distance than the outside wheel. And the differential takes care of that. So why wouldn’t a differential take care of a continuing slip on both tires? I mean, to the computer, I think it might look like it’s going and you’re turning all the time, but I would just think mechanically a differential would be able to handle the two different speeds.
SPEAKER 05 :
But remember, those spider gears, that’s what we call them, side gear spider gears, that’s what those are called inside the differential, and every car has them. That was an invention that happened way back when because early on they didn’t have that. They had a straight axle in the back and you couldn’t turn a corner. It always wanted to push you through the corner when there’s no differential. So even though jeff you’re correct and and the problem is as you’re going straight down the road you really don’t want the differential doing anything because as you do you’re just adding wear and tear to the side gears and the differential it’s you know in the spider gears themselves that differential is just adding wear going straight down the road when you shouldn’t need to do that now that’s with just a regular standard open differential keep in mind if you’ve got positraction or anything else along those lines now you’re adding to the wear and tear on that in addition to differential itself and then one third layer to this is if it’s front to back and you’ve got a viscous coupler that’s in there which a lot of all-wheel drive all all-wheel drive vehicles I should say have now you’re adding wear and tear front to back on the viscous coupler which is a high priced non wearable I mean it’s not an item that you typically go to replace on a routine basis not a maintenance item is my point so we want to keep the wear down on all of those and yes I know tires are expensive but but not near the cost of the items I just mentioned.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so it’s coupling that really you’re addressing, and not so much the spider gear stuff, or is it just a combination of all of them?
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s a combination of all. I mean, you know, it’s sort of like I watch these people that run down the road. This is a great example. You watch people run down the road with a mini spare. And they’re doing 70 miles an hour, which, by the way, they’re not supposed to go faster than 50. They shouldn’t even be on the highway with a mini spare. But you see these people driving with mini spares on almost an ongoing basis, which they should not be doing. And the reality is they’re putting all that extra wear and tear on the exact components that we’re talking about. Even a front-wheel drive car that’s not all-wheel drive, that has no viscous coupling, but they’ve got a mini spare on the left front tire, for example. A, it’s not going to steer correctly, and it’s going to be wanting to pull the entire time. You’re fighting driving that. But then on top of that, that differential in that front-wheel drive system is working overtime, even going down the road at 70 miles an hour. I just don’t understand why people do that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, that differential thinks that the car is going through a turn, and then when the car actually does go through the turn, the differential is working double.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right. Now you’re just adding to it. So, Jeff, again, I’ve never understood why people would want to run around town with – and I know I see this because I do the same route almost the same time, almost the same every day minus Saturdays. In some cases, I even recognize the same vehicles day after day because we’re all doing the same trip probably at roughly the same time. And I can tell you that some of these people will run around with a mini spare, and I’m not exaggerating, not for days but for weeks.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Laziness, no money, there’s probably a whole host of reasons for that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, but even on a front-wheel drive car, this is my recommendation, even for folks out there listening where you maybe don’t have enough money to put a new tire on. Okay, at least take a little time and move the mini-spare to the back. Don’t run that mini-spare on the front where you’re adding all that extra wear and tear to the front-wheel drive system on a front-wheel drive car. At least move that tire to the back.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, not only that, but the steering controls, you have to control the vehicle in a crash or a bad situation. So you’re giving yourself as much control as you possibly can. Good idea.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, yep. So anyways, and I’ll close with this, Jeff, on top of that, and I see that every single day. Please, for the love of God, stop changing tires on the side of the highway so you and everybody else around you doesn’t get killed.
SPEAKER 17 :
There you go, yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s a big one for me. And it happens all the time. We just had a situation here in Colorado a few weeks ago where a gentleman was killed 7 a.m. on a Saturday morning from a drunk driver. He was changing his tire on the side of I-25. Yep. Tragic. Tragic. All avoidable. All of it avoidable.
SPEAKER 16 :
The tire is already damaged. Drive it off.
SPEAKER 05 :
Drive it off. Drive it to the next exit. Who cares if the wheel is damaged? That’s way cheaper than your life. Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, thank you for letting me exhaust my question.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, that’s a great question, Jeff. I appreciate it. We’ll come back, talk a little bit more on the hail damage thing. Before we do that, really fast, I want to ask this to Kent before we go to break because I’ll forget otherwise, and that is ADOS, where you put a windshield in, you’ve got to do all the realignment of the cameras and everything. A lot of companies will advertise that that can be done indoors or outdoors. What’s the real scoop?
SPEAKER 12 :
Most of the systems out there that are on the market that recalibrate have to be inside a shop with controlled lighting level floor. They do sell one that’s a different type of system that some of them use them outside. I would recommend to get someone at the shop that you can get it done correctly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so get it done correctly. Go inside. Don’t do that outside. All right, we’ll be back. Don’t go anywhere, folks. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560, and my wife’s out and about taking pictures. We’re at the Rocky Mountain Airport for the Rocky Mountain Car Show and Swap Meet. Again, if you’re looking for a part, by the way, for maybe something that you just can’t find anywhere else, come by. It may very well be in the Swap Meet, and the weather is absolutely amazing. Spectacular. I cannot say that enough. It is right now 84 degrees, but it feels like it’s about 75 because the way the breeze is blowing, it does not feel 84 degrees. It’s absolutely a gorgeous day. Okay, Justin joining us again. Josh took the headset off, gave it to Justin. And let’s talk a minute about buying – And for a lot of you that are listening, I think I mentioned this earlier, but make sure that you guys heard me on this. The storm that came through the Cheyenne area last night, I’m getting listeners even from that area sending me pictures of vehicles on dealer lots, and they’re hammered. I mean, even the sides are dented. It’s not just the top of the vehicle. It’s all hammered and dented, even the sides, meaning that hail came in from every direction, dent of the sides and so on. My prediction is most of those vehicles will probably never get fixed. They’ll fix some of them if they can, maybe some of the higher-end units they might fix. And as I said earlier, make sure you’re getting a report on what the damage actually was before buying any vehicle. Know what you’re getting into. The question, though, that I had, and this is one that, involves not only insurance, but just the warranty itself. And this is something where I think you need to be very specific. You go to buy a vehicle. You know it’s had some hail damage. They’re giving you a discount, and maybe they took all the dents out. Maybe they left some in. Maybe it’s a combo. Maybe, for example, they threw a hood on it. Maybe they fixed the roof panel, but some of the other ones they left or they PDR’d or whatever. One of the things you need to really double-check is I buy this vehicle, and I live in Centennial, but I went to Cheyenne because it was extra cheap. Okay, great. But two years from now, you have a paint problem. And you go into your local whatever dealer, you know, whatever you decide to buy, GM, Toyota, Ford, whatever. So you go to your local dealer that’s near you because it’s got a paint problem. And all of a sudden they look at it and say, yeah, we can’t do anything on this because this was in a hailstorm and they did repairs. And GM or Ford or whoever is not going to cover said paint because there’s no longer warranty on that. That’s where you’ve got to be really careful on the front side to know, as I move down the road, what all is involved with these things. And then on top of that, and this is more for you, Justin, is on the insurance side, knowing that it’s had all of this done, can you get the same insurance you once were able to get?
SPEAKER 10 :
So it’s both the insurance side that you need to look into and then also the loan side. If you’re getting a loan on something, the dealer will send it to the underwriters and they won’t disclose that it’s had hail damage.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
It has a completely different value when it’s had hail damage.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. We talked about that.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then as for insuring the vehicle, a lot of your insurance companies aren’t going to give you full coverage insurance on something that’s had hail damage as well. But you have to disclose this. Like when you’re just giving them the VIN, the year, make, and model, they don’t know that information.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So point being, for those of you that are up in that area, know some of these things going into it. Yes, there’s going to be some great deals. But as always, there’s a pro and a con to every single thing we do in life. The pro is the price will be much better. The con is we’ve added all other layers of things to the vehicle now that we didn’t have on a brand new vehicle that is rolling right off of the lot. Things have changed. And so you’ve got to know going into it that, listen, I may not have some of the same things I would have had buying a new vehicle. I don’t know. New undamaged vehicle, let me say it that way, non-hail damaged vehicle. And you’ve got to know that going into it because you may at the end of the day decide, man, yeah, I’m getting a 10K discount, but, man, now I’ve got all these burdens on me. Now, if you’re willing to accept that and that’s okay with you, then knock your socks off, go buy the vehicle, and you’re good to go. But for some, Justin, and all you guys listening, some people may look at that and say, you know what, I’ll just pay the extra 10 grand and avoid all that stuff.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, if you’re looking at buying a new vehicle, the amount of paperwork, extra paperwork that they’re going to make you sign saying, you know, this vehicle is as is. This brand new vehicle is as is. This vehicle is as is. They can’t, you know, there’s no corrosion protection. There’s no paint protection. All of that stuff is gone. And if you ever want to fix it, you’re going to pay twice. You’re going to pay push to paint. So you’ve got to do PDR work, the push to paint. And then you have to have it sprayed on top. And we talked about this earlier. I mean, you’re $20,000 just to paint a car. You’re another $10,000, $15,000 to have pushed to paint. You’re not getting a big enough discount on that car to justify buying it, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 05 :
Personally, you’re not for me. And I’m not superstitious, except for one thing. And it’s not a superstition. It’s just the way things are. And I don’t know why. I’ve been in the industry, in the car world. I grew up in it. I’ve been around it my entire life. When a car gets damaged… It’s a magnet now for damage. I don’t know why, but they are. So every single vehicle I’ve ever owned, if it has any damage on it, it’s gone. I don’t keep it. If it gets any kind of a fender bender, if it gets any, you know, even just on accident, somebody, you know, scrapes into it with something, whatever. I don’t know. It’s not even a big deal to get fixed. I’m not keeping it. I’m on to the next vehicle because I just know. It’s now become a damage magnet, an accident magnet. And, guys, I don’t know why that is. I wish I could explain that. I’m not superstitious, but am I right? Is that what happened?
SPEAKER 16 :
Did you frustrate somebody in a former life?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t know, but it’s just the way it is. And I’ve seen it over and over. I’ve seen it since I was a kid. Once a car gets damaged, it’s a damage magnet. I don’t know why, but they are.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sometimes that’s an excuse to buy a bigger, better car.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that could be, too. There you go. That’s quite possible. Russ, hang tight. You’ve got a couple of questions I want to have plenty of time to answer. We’ve got a great car review coming up that we did on Monday that we’re going to replay for you as well. So, guys, hang tight. We’ve got a little bit longer break, but we’ll be right back again live at the Rocky Mountain Car Show and swap meet at the Rocky Mountain Airport up here in Broomfield. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Just that time of the week where we do a car review. Richard, what have you driven lately?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, Dad, so it drove a different car, and maybe for some reasons that folks may not think of, and that is a 2025 Honda Civic. This is their four-door sport touring model, but it’s a little bit different than in years past because for the first time, this has got the hybrid in it, Dad, which gives you, let me get it right, 50 and 47 miles per gallon for an average of 49, so we’re going to call it 50 because that’s about what I averaged. between highway and city driving. And so some of you are going to say, well, Richard, why is that revolution? Well, it’s not revolutionary, folks, but for the Civic, it’s new because the Civic was redone. Oh, let me pull up my notes here, Dad. I believe the Civic was redone back in 2022, right? And so they’ve now added a hybrid, which really just further puts this car kind of towards the top of this class, right? Civics have dominated this segment for a long time. Well, some people have maybe not dominated that, but they’ve really succeeded and really done well in this segment for a long, long time. And this is just further going to do that. They put some new technology in it. It’s actually got quite a bit of room for being a sedan and even with the hybrid technology. If you’re over six foot, it may be a little bit hard-pressed if you’re a passenger because there’s not quite as much flexibility as far as that goes, Dad. But outside of that, it is a great vehicle in the sense of the drivability. I mean, does it have the performance that some of the other models do? No, but again, Dad, you’re going to be able to go, like I said, I mean, darn near, I think, 450 miles or so on a tank of gas in a sedan? Yeah. which is really, really great. Now, obviously, it’s going to depend on how you drive and the tank size and things like that. But like I said, again, you’re averaging 50 miles, nearly 50 miles per gallon. And as far as the creature comforts go, I could bore everyone with it. It’s got enough soft touch materials in that. And for the price point, which let me give that to folks really quick, as it tested that, $32,845. So just over $30,000. I don’t know what some of the incentives and some of the other things are on it right now. But I would just encourage folks that if you’re in the market for, again, I guess, well, I guess any more, Dad, maybe this is an entry-level sedan, right? Because that’s kind of what the average price on these are now. And I think, again, if you’re looking for kind of to maximize that fuel economy, this is something that you and I have talked about for years now, which is the hybrid class of vehicles. kind of goes unnoticed at times, right? It kind of gets overshadowed by the EV counterpart, when really, I think for a lot of people, the hybrid works phenomenal because, you know, especially at low speeds, it doesn’t have to turn on that engine. So maneuvering on a parking lot, in and out of your garage, you may actually not have that engine activate until it’s needed. And that’s a really great feature for this car. And overall, I was just impressed with it. It’s got some new tech features as a part of it. It’s got a multi-view camera system. And, again, I guess I would say maybe the only downside to it is it doesn’t quite have the performance that some of the other vehicles do in the class. But, again, I also don’t know if you’re purchasing this vehicle for the performance aspects of it. And so, overall, Dad, I was very pleased with this vehicle. And you’ve driven, I guess, you’ve driven Civics in the past. And it’s actually one of your, correct me if I’m wrong, one of your more favorites today.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s a great car. I mean, they’ve done a great job as time has gone by, like a lot of other cars. vehicles that car has grown in other words it’s gotten larger as time goes by i can remember all the way back in the day when my brother owned one of the original small civics where you talk about putting a six foot plus tall person in it uh they were really tight so they have grown over time rightfully so by the way i’m not not opposed to that i think they should have and as time has gone by they’ve done a good job of that and they’ve made it really nice what you know again you people would probably say that that’s not considered a luxury sedan although i will tell you richard the soft touch materials and the way they’ve done that car no it’s not a luxury sedan but it’s not one that used to be made back in the day either Not only have they grown it in size, they’ve grown it in the material and how they make the car, how it feels, all of that. It’s a very, very comfortable, and compared to what they used to be, luxury sedan.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And real quick, I just looked it up to make sure. I was shorted out of my 450 miles. They actually say it’s about 500 to 520 miles, depending on how you drive it on a full tank. And so, again, folks, for those of you that maybe only, again, you maybe drive, 50 miles a day, which, honestly, depending on where you live, and I know for Colorado that’s not a lot for here in Colorado because we’re a little bit more spread out than a lot of people are, but it may not matter to you, Dad. But like you say, it’s got a lot more soft-touch materials, a lot more luxury materials than you might think, and by no means are we calling this a luxury sedan, Dad. Absolutely not. However… It will surprise you, especially if you haven’t seen the redesigned folks and the more aggressive kind of the slopes and the angles that they’ve put on it. It’s a really great-looking car and something that kind of catches your eye going down the road in a great way because you’re like, man, that car looks great. Honestly, it looks more expensive than it is, and that’s always a great thing to have. So I encourage folks, check this out, especially if you’re kind of in the market, whether in an urban environment. As far as car seats and such go, I can fit some booster seats in the back. You may be hard-pressed on some of those rear-facing seats, but as always, we encourage you to check them out yourself. Get your friends, get your family in it. Put those car seats in it at your local Honda dealer. I’m sure they’ll let you do that. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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And we are Back Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening. We appreciate it very much. Josh Goff stepped out. Justin stepped in his place from Legacy Automotive and Ridgeline. Pat Schneidt from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. And Kent from Novus up in Sterling with us as well. And appreciate all you guys being with us. Let’s do this. Russ and Cheyenne, you’ve been holding the longest. Give me one second here. And Russ, go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, how are you doing today? Good, sir. So, um, your tires issue. Um, I just got a call this morning from a friend that drove out of town to go buy a car. And on the way back, the traction control started freaking out when they got on the highway. And the first thing I asked them to do is check the tires and two different size tires on the front and the back. And the course, the rear tires are wore out. So they’re even smaller and the profit had bigger tires in the rear. So, you know, in that situation, the traction control is freaking out when you get on the highway because the front wheels are turning a lot slower than the rear wheels. Yep, yep, that’s right. So, yeah, I mean, it causes all kinds of issues, even though that vehicle is a two-wheel, four-wheel. So, I mean, they’re okay driving it, but they’ve got to put tires on it now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, that’s right. Yeah, great example.
SPEAKER 14 :
That is… That is one question I have for you is it’s a Toyota 4Runner. What tires should they put on that? What do you recommend?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and everybody’s going to say something different. We, even in our fleet, still run Toyos. They just have been a great fleet tire for us. We run the all-terrain Toyos. It works great. I actually run the mud trains on my own vehicle, but I don’t drive as many miles on my trucks as what we do in the fleet. I like the mud trains in the snow, but it kind of is to each his own. The problem with the mud trains, for everybody listening, they’re great. They’re great off-roading. They’re great in the snow. They’re great for all of that, but you will not get the wearability out of those, and they’re noisier than what if you went with just a regular toy. all train now for those of you that aren’t driving vehicles as much like you know my dodge i used to tow this down here with i mean i might put a thousand miles or so on that truck a year maybe 2 000 miles i mean at that point i can run mud terrains not have any issues be fine all day long but it really russ really comes down to you know what are you going to do what do you where are you driving how far are you driving are you on the highway mostly all that kind of stuff and i’ll get all sorts of comments back from people that you know well you know run this tire run that tire it really does come down to kind of personal preference but personally again in our fleet We’ve had extremely good luck with long wearability. And my complaint with a lot of tires is, especially, and this is my complaint with BFGoodrich All-Terrains, when they don’t spin up and balance correctly, I’m not buying that tire anymore. And what I mean by balance correctly, I don’t want to put four ounces of weight on a tire to get it to balance. I want to put an ounce or two even on a big tire. I don’t want to throw four or five ounces on it to get it to balance out. That’s the problem BFG All-Terrains have is they take too much stinking weight to balance out. I hate them. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Anytime we run into that, we just return them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just get another tire. But that’s a pain in the rear. It is. You shouldn’t have to do that. You ought to be able to buy a tire that you just put on and go.
SPEAKER 10 :
They’re the worst, though.
SPEAKER 05 :
And they’re the worst.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. That’s kind of what I was looking for because I know that she’s going to be driving from Cheyenne to Laramie this year for college. That’s why they went and picked up the 4Runner. Gotcha. I just want to make sure that she gets the right tire for doing the hill all the time.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that’s where, you know, that Toyo all-terrain, I mean, I run that even on our plow trucks. I mean, that thing, they run all year long. They plow snow. They do everything we need to do. Rust, no problem whatsoever. So, I mean, I wouldn’t. And they do great. I mean, we’re getting even on, you know, the fleet trucks and they’re towing and doing all sorts of stuff with them, much heavier than a 4Runner. We’re getting 40K plus out of those tires easy on a four-wheel drive. That’s not bad at all.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I think I’m going to have to try those on my truck.
SPEAKER 10 :
The Michelin Defenders on something like a 4Runner. Good tire, too. The Michelin Defender, I mean, 40,000 to 60,000 miles on it. You’re going to pay up. It’s a very quiet tire. Very quiet. I run the Defender on my Acadia, and I love it. It’s a good tire.
SPEAKER 14 :
Great tire.
SPEAKER 05 :
It really, on a 4Runner, just comes down to more of, you know, are you going to do anything a little more aggressive? Is she doing anything ever off-road? Is it all on-road? What does she want in the snow? And, again, that’s kind of where that – and the other thing I would look at doing is, especially on a 4Runner, I would go – I would go an LT tire. I would not run a P-Series tire on that. I would run an LT 6-ply tire, period.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, yeah. No, I wouldn’t do anything but an LT on that. Okay. Okay. My other quick question is, do you know much about flail mowers?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, a little bit, yeah. What do you want to know? Ken probably knows more than anybody sitting here. He’s a farmer.
SPEAKER 14 :
Maybe. He knows way more than anybody here, Russ. So I have a flail mower, and I’m running hammer blades. And I love the cut. It cuts well, but it’s slow. And I’m using the flail mower over a brush hog because of approaches.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
I need the shorter approach angle for the ditches and stuff I’m doing. What I’ve been thinking about is adding Y-blades to the mower through basically all my blades line up in rows. I’ve been thinking about adding a steel rod instead of the bolts and adding Y-blades to that as well. to help with additional cutting.
SPEAKER 12 :
That was probably designed not to do grass and weeds. It’s probably designed for corn stalks. Is that the type of mower you got or is it made for mower grass? It’s made for acreage mowing, yeah. Okay. Because I run a bush hog in my place. I mean, it does a nice job, but it’s not perfect. You’re not going to get the same look you get in your front yard. Right. It’ll mow a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s going to knock most of it down. I would love to run a brush hog. I just don’t have the approach angles for what I’m cutting to be able to run one effectively. If I’m just doing huge fields, I’d be running a brush hog all day long.
SPEAKER 12 :
There’s not a lot of options out there. There’s probably not a lot of blades out there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and that one, if it were me, Russ, that’s kind of a trial and error. You’re almost going to have to just try that and see how it works, what’s it cut like when you’re done, and so on. I mean, as you know, you’re in a world where trial and error.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Well, I just figured if I kept the hammers on for the heavy stuff and added the Y blades to help with the smaller grass, it would probably increase the – Probably. The cut.
SPEAKER 12 :
Probably more than anything. Watch your speed. Your ground speed probably plays more effect on that than anything. Don’t go too fast.
SPEAKER 14 :
It does, yeah. And that’s what I’m wanting to increase a little bit is my ground speed because it takes, you know, if I go like an acre an hour is probably what I can do with that mower right now. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Is that running off your PTO shaft? Yeah, I got a 540 PTO speed. Okay, keep your engine speed up. That’ll help, too. Don’t let it run too low.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
But they’re only going to do so much.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. No, I understand that. I guess more than anything, I was asking if it sounded like a stupid idea, instead of running the bolts and the hammers, to run a full rod and just add some rye blades to it. I know it’s going to increase the mass, but… It will. It probably can’t hurt you any.
SPEAKER 05 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, because the Y-blades don’t weigh much. That’s why I was figuring if I ran a rod, I’d probably be okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I would give it a whirl. You’re not going to be out anything. Time.
SPEAKER 14 :
I just didn’t want to. I wanted to make sure I wasn’t, like, missing something.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you’re fine. No, you’re fine. No, absolutely, Russ. All right, man. Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, thanks for your help.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, Russ, always good talking to you. Gary, Denver, hang tight. Got a question on purchasing a hail-damaged car. By the way, great question. We’ll come back and take that in a moment. We’re live again at the Rocky Mountain Airport, Rocky Mountain Car Show and SWAT meet. Come by, say hi. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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And we’re back, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening today. We appreciate it very much. Gary in Denver, you are next. Go ahead, Gary.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, hi, John. Hope you’re having a good day.
SPEAKER 05 :
We are.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks, Gary. I’ve listened to you long enough where I know that what’s very important to you is not only functionality but appearance, whether it comes to your vehicles or your house.
SPEAKER 24 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
And for me, I think there’s a lot of people like me. When it comes to a car, I could care less about appearance. I’m more interested in functionality. It gets me from point A to point B. In 2015, I bought a hail-damaged car, a Kia Forte. They were selling for about $19,000. I got the hail-damaged car for $11,000. Good deal. Yeah. brand new got the one i understood i understood the issues with you know paint and stuff like that sure sure it’s it’s really it’s really worked out well so i wasn’t thinking about getting a car especially with what’s going on in the car market but when you talked about in wyoming they have this hail damage i thought if i could get a deal like i got in 2015 i might consider getting rid of my car and getting a hail damage card do you know Do they ever ship those cars to Denver or to, you know, so that I don’t have to drive up to Wyoming?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, there are enough people out there right now that would shuttle that car down, Gary, enough services. You literally can go to uship.com and find enough people that would bid on bringing that car down. It wouldn’t cost you but a few hundred bucks to do so. That’s easy. So the answer is you could easily buy that and have it brought down, no problem.
SPEAKER 10 :
You still might want to see it in person.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s your call.
SPEAKER 10 :
If it’s in Cheyenne, a couple-hour drive, I think, is worth it to see that car. And then use shipping if you need shipping to get it down. But I’d see that car in person.
SPEAKER 05 :
The other option you’ve got, Gary, is you could FaceTime a salesperson and have them run a video, walk around it. And, again, the lighter color of the car, the more forgiving on damage it’s going to be. So if you bought a silver or white or very light-colored car, you’re not going to see near as much. and that might even be a little bit harder to see even in a video. You’ll see it maybe with the naked eye. And as a side note, and this is something that probably most people don’t know, when I was early in and owning my business and didn’t have a lot of extra cash, I actually bought, my uncle was a dealer out in Burlington, Colorado, and a hail storm rolled through there, and I bought back in the day a Pontiac 6000 that literally had hood, roof, and rear deck damage, and I ended up putting a hood on it myself, and this is back in the day when you could actually do that relatively reasonable i put a sunroof on the top to take out a bunch of the dents on the roof and i put a deck lid rack on the back to take out a bunch of the dents from what you couldn’t see on the deck lid and i had a really decent car for a really cheap price much of what you were talking about gary so i’ve done the same thing when if i go up there and look at it in person besides looking at the hail damage if i’m okay with the hail damage
SPEAKER 15 :
What else could be damage related to hail?
SPEAKER 05 :
And what I would do, Gary, back to my original conversation of get a report on that specific car, make sure the VIN number matches, see exactly what the insurance claim has been because they’ll have one. Believe me, they’ll have an insurance claim on or they won’t be discounting the car. So there’s a claim on the car. That’s how they’re able to discount the car. They’re going to take the insurance money. They’re going to discount the car. You’re not getting the insurance money. You’re getting the insurance company to basically make a big down payment for you. That’s how it works. They’ll have a claim on that car, a sheet on that car, I should say, telling you all the damage.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, I didn’t even think of that. Thanks for that tip. I think I’m going to take a trip to Wyoming.
SPEAKER 05 :
Have fun, Gary. Let me know how it turns out. Thanks, John. You’re very welcome, Gary. Appreciate you. Gary’s been listening for a decade plus and appreciate him greatly. And, yeah, for a lot of people that are out there, and I’m not critical of this. There’s a lot of people that look at their vehicle as strictly transportation. It gets me from A to B. As long as it’s working mechanically, I’m good to go. They don’t care about the looks. I’m not that person. They’ll be the first to admit I am the opposite of that person. Kind of always, you know, pretty much always have been. I’m one of those where I want to… You know, I like vehicles. I like them to look nice. It’s why I buy certain vehicles and even certain colors. And, you know, I’m just that guy. And not everybody is. I understand that. And, again, no judgment, no criticisms. Just if you’re going to buy a car, though, like that, like Gary’s doing, again. Try to find out exactly how much damage has been done to it. And you’ve got to make sure the math works, too. And I should have mentioned that to Gary. Gary, you’re still listening. By all means, make sure the math works. You’ll see the report. You’ll see exactly how much damage has been done to the car. And make sure at the end of the day all of the math works out. And if you can handle the things that we’ve already talked about that Justin even mentioned regarding insurance and a lot of those things, as long as you can take care of all of that and you can deal with that, then buy the car.
SPEAKER 12 :
And check with your insurance company. Make sure what kind of coverage you can get on that vehicle. They will go through it, and you’ll know what you’re getting. If that works, it works. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t.
SPEAKER 05 :
Depending upon the damage and what’s been done and what you’re going to fix or not fix, you may not be able to buy comprehensive, for example. You might be able to buy collision, and you might even be limited on collision. You’ll be able to get liability by all means. That’s never a problem. But comp and collision might be a separate issue, and that’s where, Kent, you’re right. I always say this, period. I said this last week. Before you buy any new car, any used car, call your insurance person and say, hey, I’m thinking about buying such and such. How is this going to work and what’s it going to cost me? And then, oh, by the way, it’s hail damaged. I’m buying it at a much cheaper price. Or I’m buying a salvage title vehicle or it’s a whatever. They’ll tell you on the front side how it’s all going to work. Find that out prior to buying the vehicle. Nothing worse than buying it, then calling the insurance company, and then figuring out, oh, crap, this thing’s like three times the amount I thought it was going to be. Nobody wants any surprises.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, going back to Gary’s question about other things that he should be looking at other than the hail, well, we actually need to look at the depth of the hail. If this hail is getting ready to crack the paint or has cracked the paint, We’re in a whole other ballpark now. We’re getting into a car that’s going to rust and disintegrate early on. I mean, that paint and clear coat is there to protect that car.
SPEAKER 05 :
Great point, Justin.
SPEAKER 10 :
And the other thing, are we talking about new cars? Are we talking about an inexpensive used car? You know, you’re talking about a $5,000 to $10,000 car, and it’s got some micro hail on it. That doesn’t even change the value of that car.
SPEAKER 06 :
No.
SPEAKER 10 :
But you’re looking at a new vehicle, $30,000, $40,000, $50,000. If you really got to be doing the math on that, I would almost bring in some type of expert to look at that car with you before pulling the trigger.
SPEAKER 12 :
And if it had glass broken out of it, now that car has been exposed to the rain and wet. I would look at that, too. If it’s never been open to the weather, that’s a different deal. I didn’t even think about that. Because the water inside that car, now it’s set there for a week or two outside. Great point. It will mess up a car.
SPEAKER 10 :
Everything is ran by a module in a modern car nowadays. I mean everything. There’s four, five, six modules in a modern car.
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Easy. Well, and the reason we’re saying this for everybody listening, some of you down in Denver may not realize this. I’m getting pictures in that folks have. sent me, and I’m looking at the hail size. In some cases, it’s not quite baseball size, but it’s between a golf ball and a baseball, probably tennis ball size is about what some of this hail is like that came through last night. And when it gets to be that big, some of what we’re talking about and the damage that could come from, because it’s like throwing a rock at the car. I mean, think about it that way. Only you’re throwing it from… you know 10 000 feet in the sky down i mean you’re not even throwing a rock it’s falling from the sky and that velocity is heavy and it’s hitting all of these different components and yeah we want to make sure that we’ve had no because it’s raining at the same time and so i want to make sure we don’t have water damage and things along those lines and i will say though back to gary’s point a moment ago You will find some really deep discounts because in a lot of cases, depending upon the severity of the damage, they won’t fix the car. Now, some of the lighter hail damage, they might PDR some of that, be done with it, move on. You’ll know they have to disclose all of that, of course. You’ll know that. But in a lot of cases, if they’ve got roof panel damage, pillar damage, even damage to fenders and things like that, they’re probably going to just discount that car out, get rid of it, sell it, do the best they can on the next one. In some cases, I mean, doubtful they’ll take any kind of a loss, but they may just cut their losses and what they get back and hold back and everything else. They may say, okay, here’s our invoice price, here’s our hold back, here’s what we’re getting back in kickbacks and so on, and here’s the insurance money we’ve got, here’s the price. And if that’s the case, it’s going to be a really good deal. Now, one thing you have to be aware of, and this is something, Justin, we can come back and probably talk about in third hour, is the financing end of things because not all finance companies will take that car. There’s a lot of other variables that you need to think about as well. You may be with some weird finance company if you can’t pay cash for the car that you may not want to be with. So we’ll talk about that when we come back as well. So number three hour coming up next. Again, we’re at the Rocky Mountain Airport, Rocky Mountain Car Center. And Car Show and Swap Meet, come by and say hi. We’ve got one more full hour coming your way. Don’t go anywhere. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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