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a conversation and welcome to the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you’re each treasured you’re valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind on your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that i get to work with that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy friday to everybody here And, okay, let’s see. We’ve got quite a day going here, so let’s just go ahead and jump into it. We’ve got our word of the day, and I went to the word of the day with the word is anodyne. And it is spelled A-N-O-D-Y-N-E. And just a second. There we go. And it could be a medicine that relieves or allays pain, anything that relieves stress or pain, or something soothing the mind or feelings. And I chose that because I was reading the piece that Wade Miller had published regarding the census, and he used that word anodyne in there. And so I thought that would be a good word of the day to use today. So that’s what we did. And our quote of the day, we go to Wesley Fox. And this is from the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And the center is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And they do several things. They honor our Medal of Honor recipients. And they also focus on teaching these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And so every Friday, I like to share a quote and a citation from one of the Medal of Honor recipients. And so we’re going to do that today. And this is from Wesley L. Fox. United States Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipient, born 1931, died 2017. These are for actions that were taken on February 22nd, 1969. And this is the citation. Said for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life, above and beyond the call of duty, while serving as commanding officer of Company A, In action against the enemy in the northern Aesha Valley, Captain, then First Lieutenant Fox’s company, came under intense fire from a large and well-concealed enemy force. Captain Fox maneuvered to a position from which he could access the situation and confer with his platoon leaders. As they departed to execute the plan he had devised, the enemy attacked, and Captain Fox was wounded along with all the other members of the command group, except the executive officer. Captain Fox continued to direct the activity of his company. Advancing through heavy enemy fire, he personally neutralized one enemy position and calmly ordered an assault against the hostile emplacements. He then moved through the hazardous area, coordinating aircraft support with the activities of his men. When his executive officer was mortally wounded, Captain Fox reorganized the company and directed the fire of his men as they hurled grenades against the enemy and drove the hostile forces into retreat. Wounded again in the final assault, Captain Fox refused medical attention, established a defensive posture and supervised the preparation of casualties for medical evacuation. His indomitable courage, inspiring initiative and unwavering devotion to duty in the face of grave personal danger inspired his Marines to such aggressive action that they overcame all enemy resistance and destroyed a large bunker complex. Captain Fox’s heroic actions reflect great credit upon himself and the Marine Corps and uphold the highest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service. And this is his quote. He said, one must have good character, solid principles, and high ethical standards to inspire others to follow. And that is Wesley L. Fox, United States Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipient. And I would really recommend that you have this Medal of Honor quote book And I recommend that you talk with your children and your grandchildren about what these men did. They stepped forward when they saw that there was a situation, that they needed to protect those around them. And they stepped forward. And they took action. And we are now in this big battle of ideas in America. And we must step forward and take action. And I think this really is our 1775 moment as I continue to go through so many different headlines. We have a great opportunity at this particular point in time. And Colorado is at the tip of the spear on all that is occurring out there. And so you were made for this moment in history. And we need to step forward for that. So with that, I’d really recommend that you check out the website for the Center for American Values. And it is located in Pueblo, but they’ve got the great Medal of Honor, Portraits of Valor down at the center, and then also great educational programs. And then Drew Dix has started this great new podcast as well. And you can get all of that by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. A couple of the headlines that I just wanted to hit was the Colorado governor, as you know, has called for an emergency session to fix the budget. Apparently, it depends. There’s different numbers out there, but that, in fact, we might be a billion dollars short. And so, of course, one of the first places they’re going to go is to you, and that is the excess revenue that was collected regarding TABOR. And TABOR is a constitutional amendment passed by the people of Colorado basically to try to keep the spending of government in a box at least. And, of course, one of the first things they’re going to do is probably take our TABOR refunds and not give that back to you. And, again, that is because of a really poor management system. here in Colorado. And so let’s see. I think that’s primarily it. Oh, the other thing I wanted to mention. Remember when they’re saying, XL saying that we’re going to have this, I have this green, I have that in air quotes, renewable energy, and that it’s going to save people money. Well, this particular headline says XL Energy is considering raising rates in Colorado again. And so stay tuned on that as well. There’s something very special that’s coming up here this month, and that is the 48th anniversary of the Marine Memorial. As we just read the citation for Wesley L. Fox, United States Marine Corps, it’s so important that we remember and honor him. those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for us. And a woman and her team that is working diligently on that is Paula Sarles. She is a Marine veteran. She’s a Gold Star wife, and she’s also the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation. Paula Sarles, welcome to the show. Well, thanks for having me, Kim. It’s good to be here. And you are working diligently and your team for the 48th anniversary of the Marine Memorial, so tell us a little bit about that.
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Well, yes, we’re very excited. We have singer Dave Bray coming to perform for us a bunch of patriotic songs, and we’ll have a food truck out there to If you want to buy some dinner and just sit around and talk before the performance. Just have a lot of really good veterans for young people to learn from. And we encourage people to talk to each other and share their stories. because that’s important.
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Well, I’m going to be there. I’m really excited to get to emcee the event, Paula, because it is really a special event. Dave Bray performed last year as well. And it’s just, it’s beautiful. It’s out at 6th and Colfax. And I really recommend people, I know we’re all busy, but we need to take time to stop and reflect and honor. And that’s why this event is so important.
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That’s right. And it just, The setting with the sunset going down as the performance goes on, it’s just spectacular.
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Well, it really is. So how can people buy tickets?
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Well, they can go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org and buy a ticket, or they can get them at the door before they do it ahead of time. And… You just show your proof of purchase at the gate, and it’s real easy.
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Okay, and that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And also, just to give us a little information about the Buy a Brick program, and if you buy a brick, that could also go towards your ticket, yes or no?
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Yes, and if you buy a brick, if you donate using the Buy a Brick program, you get a VIP seat. Right up close and personal. And we’ve had a few people do that. So we’re going to really honor those people that get a brick this month. And anybody that bought one since June is going to have a VIP seat.
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And these bricks will be on one of the pathways of service that will be honoring a member of their family, or it could be for their own military service as well, correct? Right.
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That’s right. And you can put yourself or somebody else on one brick, or you can get a bigger brick and put two or three people’s information on there. So it’s really… It’s very flexible, and we’re open to help people if they want to call, and we can help them with their brick purchase.
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Okay. And again, what is that website, Paula Sarles? It’s usmc.org. Again, that’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Great. Paula, I will see you on the 23rd, and I’ll talk with you next week. And we get to do all this because of all of your support and all of our sponsors. and the Roger Mangin State Farm Insurance Team can create personalized insurance plans to cover all your needs from protection for your cars to your home, condo, boat, motorcycle, business, and renter’s coverage. Contact the Roger Mangin Team now at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, Roger Mangin’s team is there.
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Indeed, it is Friday. And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. And we mentioned the USMC Memorial Foundation. And again, I wanted to give you that website. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then also the other nonprofit that I just totally feature on the show is the Center for American Values. And that website is americanvaluecenter.org. And on the line with me, is Nancy Rumsfeld, and she is Rumfeld. I want to say that correct. There’s no S in there, is there, Nancy? Nancy, welcome to the show.
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Thank you for having me.
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Yes, there’s no S in it. People want to put one, but there isn’t one. I know. I think I wanted to. And as I was preparing, I’m like, wait, there’s no S in there. And then I did that. So it’s Nancy Rumfelt, and she has been serving the people up in the Loveland area, the Thompson School District, as a school board member and has some information for us. So, Nancy, welcome. Tell us a little bit about how long have you been on school board there in Thompson Valley?
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This November, it will be four years. And first, my usual disclaimer. I’m here representing and speaking of my own personal opinion and viewpoint. But it’s been an interesting four years, especially since there’s several, many times, 6-1 votes. And this newest one with the bond is the latest 6-1 vote. And I want to let your listeners understand, this is really important to everyone, what happened in Thompson this week, because I believe it will happen in other school districts and other localities as well, like Denver, other cities and stuff, where they’re trying to say that they want to pass a bond with no tax increase. But they’re also trying to circumvent TABOR, and I think we’re going to see a lot of that happening at this special session. So TABOR is critical to the citizens of Colorado, and they’ve made that clear. And the bureaucracy and other elected officials, they don’t seem to care what the voters and the taxpayers think.
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You know, Nancy, well, first of all, four years, so does that mean you’re up for an election? Are you running again? No. Okay.
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No, not until 2027. So I get to have the joy of serving with these others for two more years, and they get the joy of serving with me.
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And this is really important. I’ve thought about this. First of all, there’s going to be all kinds of challenges. Tabor questions. So tax questions that are going to be on Coloradans’ ballots this November. And people need to be paying attention. We look at the federal debt and we’re like, oh my gosh, $37 trillion in debt. But then on top of that, is debt from our school districts and our communities. And we need to say no to any new debt. We need to start moving towards fiscal solvency here. And so what we are seeing, first of all, is that all of these school districts and municipalities are kind of waiting until the last minute to refer this to the ballot because they don’t really want to show their hand to the taxpayer. And then many times the jurisdiction that’s asking for to keep our money or more money or debt that we have to pay off is they already have in place PR firms that are going to try to get people to approve these bond measures. It’s time that we say no because people are hurting when they’re sitting around the kitchen table trying to make ends meet Money is really tight for a lot of folks, Nancy Rumfelt. There we go.
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It is, but more than that, I mean, this bond that they want to pass, we do need to do many things in the district with it. My issue is why not just be honest and transparent with the taxpayer? So they started off with no expected increase in the district’s current property tax rate That, in my opinion, is impossible to comply with because buried at the very end of this, where no one’s reading it anymore, it says, notwithstanding the above, may the mill levy be imposed in any year without limitation as to rate. but only an amount sufficient to pay the principal. So this is all predicated on our 2005 bond payment, Kim, is going away this year. So they’re saying, oh, we’ll just keep that same payment in place. But how do you borrow $10 million more… and say that the interest cost is going to be more, and you’re going to collect more in taxes to pay the debt, but the rate’s going to stay the same? That math, simply, it doesn’t work, and you know they’re going to increase taxes, and they are counting so heavily on assessed values continuing to increase, and if they don’t, there’s going to be a problem. But worse than this, Kim? The voters here made so clear last year. They defeated the bonds over 60%. They want transparency. They’re done with these generic descriptions that say, shall it be spent on this and that. And it’s very generic, not specific, no dollar amounts. They are done with these blank check bonds the way that they’re written. They want specifics. And the bureaucrats, they don’t want to do it because that would mean they would be tied to it. They’d be held accountable. And when you look at their new bond page, it’s just more of the same. They list the same stuff. And my favorite, they always list, you know, the floor tiles that are broken or the ceiling tiles. And it’s like, really, that’s the picture that you’re going to use? Because, what, you can’t go to Home Depot and get some ceiling tiles to replace? You’ve got to wait until it’s beyond ridiculous. Now it’s a safety hazard. So, like, do something. The real issue, Kim, that they don’t address – is how to take care of maintenance every year in 05 when we did this first bond it was 176 million of deferred debt now it’s 200 million of deferred debt how do you chip away at it when are they going to chip away at it we need serious changes instead of just playing all these word games with the voters and treating them like they’re stupid they’re not and they want accountability and transparency and they want to understand Where’s their money going? Because especially, like you said, they can’t afford groceries, gas. Like, why are we doing this? Be honest.
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Absolutely. Be honest. And when you said $160 million in deferred debt, did you mean deferred maintenance?
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I’m sorry, deferred maintenance. Okay. I’m sorry, deferred maintenance. But I haven’t had all my coffee yet.
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I get it. I get it. And I think the voters, if their elected representatives and staff were honest with them, then you have an honest relationship, and then voters, they can sit down and thoughtfully think about a bond package and say yes or no. But the words in here, with no expected… Aha. I think that that is disingenuous right there. And then to your point, you look at the numbers, it’s not possible. Now, they may be betting on increased assessed valuations, but there’s really two things. If there are not increased assessed valuations, which are higher property taxes, then they can increase the mill levy. Or they could do both, actually. And they’re asking for what? I can’t remember. What’s the bond package?
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It’s $99 million. But the more important thing is during the presentation this week, one of the bond writers actually said when they write these ballots, they really work on… formatting it so the eye is drawn to the stuff that matters. You know, like, what’s it going to be spent on? Because they’re not going to read all the other stuff. You know, like at the very end where it says it could be imposed any year without limitation. Like, don’t read that, people, because that says, well, it really could be a tax increase, but we don’t want to tell you. And so that’s just so disingenuous. I mean, it’s and it violates TABOR. Tabor’s very clear, Kim. It says that the ballot language is supposed to start with the question, either shall taxes be increased or shall debt be increased? And this one starts with no expected increase. So, like, just it’s a simple fix. Comply with Tabor. But they couldn’t even do that.
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Wow. And so who will be voting on – what area of Colorado will be voting on this, Nancy Rumfeld?
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It will be the Thompson School District, which is all of Loveland, Berthoud, a small portion of southern Fort Collins, and a little bit of Weld County. So this is important. And, again, I understand we need this money, but let’s do it in a way that honors Tabor – respects the intelligence of our taxpayers and is transparent with built-in accountability in the ballot language. That’s not that much to ask for. Why can’t we do it?
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These are the people that we are accountable to. Well, absolutely. And next question. What about results? I’ve been looking at last year when there were so many different school districts asking for money, and I was looking at the proficiency numbers for the students for math and English. Do you know, ballpark, what they are there in Thompson Valley?
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For reading proficiency, on average, when you take all the schools together, the aggregate is over 40%. But when you break it apart, we have too many schools that are under 30%. And that is a shame. No, actually, that’s worse than a shame. That’s a disgrace. We are failing those kids. And if they can’t read, then they can’t, obviously, their math scores won’t be proficient either. You can’t do math if you can’t read.
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And actually, 40% would be some of the better school districts from what I’ve seen. But what that means is there are 6 in 10 kids in the Thompson School District that are not reading at proficiency level. And reading is so important for success of life. And I think that asking people to take on more debt when they’re getting these kind of results, I think people need to think twice about that as well.
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Right. Well, also, the other thing is there’s nothing even mentioned in here about doing the work needed for ADA compliance. I mean, we have many issues in this district with ADA compliance. We don’t even respect parents. who have kids with special needs, they have to fight tooth and nail to get what is needed for their child to learn to the best of their ability. And that is wrong. Parents should not have to fight so hard to get what is needed for their child to be able to learn. That’s just, that’s not appropriate. And that’s what we need to focus on. Not all these other things with all these cultural things that just aren’t part of education. We just need to get back to education and leave the other stuff to the parents, to other appropriate agencies like, you know, the health department. Stop trying to be all things to all people and just educate the kids.
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That’s our job. Okay, Nancy, your final thought on this. And thank you for bringing this to our attention.
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My final thought is I just say, everybody, you know, look carefully at what will be on your ballot. Read the language. They’re counting on you not. It is very important. So this is how they slide things through. And it’s not right. And look out for what’s going to happen in this special session. We need we need solid legislators at the Capitol to protect us.
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Yes, it is Friday, and thank you to the Harris family for their great gold sponsorship of the show. Pleased to have on the line with me Wade Miller. He is a senior advisor with the Center for Renewing America, and he is a combat veteran. He’s served in the U.S. Marine Corps as an infantryman, and he has spent more than a decade working with the conservative grassroots movement, campaigns, public policy, development in Washington, and on Capitol Hill. And Wade Miller, welcome to the show.
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Thank you so much for having me on again.
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Well, I always learn a lot from you, Wade Miller. And there’s a lot happening in Washington, D.C. So I wanted to ask you about a rescissions package, though. Last time you and I talked, or maybe a few times ago, you had said that the Trump administration… was going to kind of dip their toe in the water on a rescissions package on spending. And then I saw a headline on that a few weeks later, and it looked to me like that was passed. And there was something critical that might happen in August. So give us an update on that, please.
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Sure. So the rescissions package was put forward. And, of course, this is based off of a 1974 law in which Congress – attempted to stop the presidency from being able to use impoundment authority. And that’s a whole other thing. Of course, I don’t think that that was a constitutional action by Congress originally. And I think that the Trump administration is going to look at using impoundment authority before the end of the year is up as well. But the rescissions process came out of the Impoundment Control Act. And so this is basically a process by which the president can put forward a recommended policy slate of spending cuts and then Congress approves them with a simple majority. And the reason it’s an attractive option is because it doesn’t require 60 votes in the Senate. It’s a simple majority, 50 plus one vote margin to get those things done. However, it turns out that some of these senators still don’t like them, including some Republican senators. And even though the votes were there for it to pass on the last package, It was not a popular process with, you know, seven or eight kind of the more moderate Republican senators who don’t like this. Honestly, I just don’t think that they like cutting spending is what it comes down to. And they certainly don’t like being jammed up on it by the president. It’s just outside of what they’re used to. So it’s unclear to me because of that, if we’re going to get another rescissions package this year, I think that there will be one. I just don’t know how significant it will be. And I think because of that you’ll probably also see impoundment used impoundment doesn’t require congressional approval so i will see how broadly they use that my guess is it will be not used broadly it will be used very narrowly on a small set of funding because there will likely be legal challenges to that in court fights on the legality of using impoundment authority so they’ll want to do this on the safest legal grounds that they can and pick an ideal candidate to have that fight All of that is to say that I think that a lot of this is also happening because there’s now discussion of a second reconciliation package, which is different than rescissions. That’s a congressionally driven process to identify spending cuts. Now, reconciliation is used for mandatory spending, not discretionary spending like all of the money for all the various agencies. Mandatory spending is like Social Security money. Medicare and things like that. So I think that there will be another reconciliation package. It will not touch benefits for Social Security or Medicare. There are some things that you can get out of some additional cost savers out of Medicaid and some other mandatory program savers that they didn’t get in the last reconciliation process. From a spending perspective, that’s what I think the next month and a half looks like. I think that you’re going to see maybe a rescissions package, probably some sort of an impoundment used by the presidency, and then a new reconciliation process.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, Wade, what I’m hearing you say, so we’re $37 trillion in debt, and we’ve got – this is not sustainable. But you’re saying that there are, well, Republicans, for sure, Democrats that do not want to cut spending. This is unsustainable.
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And let me describe how this works. So you’ve got Jay Bhattacharya, who, by all accounts, during COVID was a national hero. He really spoke the truth about the science that we are facing with that entire pandemic. And most of what he was saying in real time at that time turned out to be true. So he’s, you know, because of that, was an ideal candidate in many people’s eyes to go run at NIH. Well, there’s all sorts of woke funding at NIH. And I think in some respects, the bureaucrats at NIH have kind of overpowered him and they have convinced him to, you know, put it in the ears of some senators that we need to release all of this NIH funding. And they’re doing it from the perspective of like, well, we’ve got to fund cancer research. Does anyone really think that the Trump administration is not going to fund cancer research? It has nothing to do with that. It’s studies like, um, Studying tobacco stigma and bisexual adults in Haiti, you know, that kind of stuff. Is that really what we should be putting money towards when we’re $37 trillion in debt? And so these senators call in and get all that money released. And so that takes that money off of the table. And then they keep doing this. A lot of woke education grants were released. So we can’t use a rescissions package on that. And it just gets down to that, you know, probably a solid half of the Republican Party is not actually serious in the least about actually cutting spending.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. I don’t know what to say to that, Wade Miller, because this out-of-control spending is encumbering our children and our grandchildren with a debt that is going to be very difficult to pay off. And I just don’t quite know what to say about that.
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Yeah, it’s it’s mind boggling, you know, especially when you look at what exactly would be cut, how any Republican and honestly how many Democrats could object to, given the circumstance we’re in, continuing to fund some of these things that honestly do not need to be funded, didn’t need to be funded in the first place, even if we had plenty of money. But certainly for 37 trillion in debt. And so now we have gotten a lot of cuts this year and there will be more to come. But we’re having to exert extreme pressure to get enough votes to agree to those cuts. And it should be a slam dunk, an easy layup for the Republican Party.
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It really should be. Next question that I get from a lot of people is, where is all the tariff money going? Is that reducing debt, or have we started to collect tariff money? Because tariffs are in the headlines all the time.
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Yes, they are going to pay now to debt. So the money goes directly into the U.S. Treasury’s general fund. So that means that money to fund operations of the government comes out of the general fund, and then… If there’s more money in it, we’re now having to borrow less so the annual deficit goes down. So in an indirect way, it is paying down the increased amount of deficits that we would otherwise have.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, okay. Yeah, I forgot we’ve got deficit spending significantly, don’t we? Okay, well, so what do you anticipate here? What does August look like? August recess? There’s a lot of work to get done. What’s your ear to the ground saying about August here?
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Well, the Senate should immediately come back, and they should either work until all the president’s nominees are approved and confirmed, Or they should formally recess so that the president can do a recess appointment of all of his currently nominated political appointees. And just additional background on how bizarre it is that this isn’t happening. So normally what happens when. elected officials go on recess is that it’s not actually a recess they have what’s called a pro forma session in which the house or the senate gavel in and then they quickly gavel out or maybe they have a quick voice vote on the naming of a post office or something like that and then they gavel out and so technically congress met that day even though there were three people on the house floor or the senate and and it wasn’t everyone else is at home And this was a strategy that was used to prevent the opposite party from being able to use recess appointment power and just do whatever they want in a formal recess. Because the president has a lot of authority in a formal recess. And so you never see formal recesses anymore. But again, this was always supposed to be a strategy used against the opposition party. We’re now seeing Republican senators… refusing to formally recess in order to prevent a Republican president from being able to do recess appointments. It’s bizarre. And it’s not even like it’s a completely negotiable problem. If there are three or four nominees that some Republican senators do want to have a formal hearing on and a formal vote on, they can negotiate that with the White House and just recess appoint everyone except for those three or four. But that’s not what is happening. So it’s extremely bizarre what is happening in the United States Senate. So that’s on NOMS. But when they come back, I’m hoping that they will be met with a release of a rescissions package. They really need to get to work on… Coming up with significant cuts in the next reconciliation package, they will have the National Defense Authorization Act, which will be an opportunity to codify anti-woke provisions into statutory authority. In other words, putting into law a lot of the president’s.
SPEAKER 11 :
anti-woke uh executive orders with regard to dod policy okay um just is there any names that i imagine there’s no democrats that are supporting the president on anything do you want to share any of the names of these senators that are kind of thwarting the president’s agenda or would you like to not do that
SPEAKER 20 :
I mean, it’s the usual suspects. It’s the Mitch McConnell’s. It’s the Susan Collins. It’s the Lisa Murkowski’s. It’s the Tom Tillis’s. I mean, and there’s more than that. But those are the major ringleaders of people who are making it difficult for, even if John Thune wanted to do this, and I’m not sure that he does, that they’re making it difficult for him to go in that direction, even if he wanted to.
SPEAKER 11 :
Goodness. Okay. Well, it’s important that we understand that. Now, Wade Miller, when we come back, you’ve written a very important policy piece on this whole census thing. And I’ve seen the census and the headlines. Didn’t quite understand it. It is a very detailed piece, but want to give the high points on it because it’s really important. I’m talking with Wade Miller, and he is a senior advisor at the Center for Renewing America. What’s that website, Wade Miller?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, it’s americarenewing.com.
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SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. So I’ll just really quickly describe how it’s supposed to work. So you basically the Census Bureau hires a bunch of people. They start planning how they get this out. They work with the post office, everyone to get the census out. And then they have a process to follow up on households to to double check, you know, with someone listed at a household and a college dormitory or a household and a senior person. living center, you know, something like that. They try to make it as accurate as possible. For example, the 2010 census was off by about 36,000 roughly nationwide. So it’s fairly accurate. And then they use that data to send it to the states and the states use that data to then draw all of their, they get their apportionment for all of their congressional seats, which bleeds into the electoral college. Then they use that data to draw political maps. That’s how it’s supposed to work. And if there’s if a city or a municipality thinks data is wrong, there was a process by which they could say, hey, you have us listed as having 550 people. We actually have 650. And here’s all of our property tax records. So there’s a process to make minor revisions to that data before it all went out and was then used. That’s how it’s supposed to work. In 2020, they radically changed the entire process. And these were all people that were implemented by the prior administration, the Obama administration. Most of these were Obama bureaucrats that did this. And I think that the problem was is that no one in the first Trump administration really figured out what was going on until roughly 2020. And by then, their efforts to change everything, it was just too late from an APA standpoint. They couldn’t legally do it right. So what happened? Well… One, they counted illegal aliens, which means that in states with a high level of illegal aliens, that provides you more voting power. Now, remember, the Electoral College and political districts, so congressional districts, state house districts, those are supposed to be representative of voting power of the citizens that live there. So if you have one district that has, you know, 350,000 citizens and another district that has 750,000 citizens, because the first district also has, you know, 400,000 illegal aliens or whatever. then that gives an unconstitutionally disproportionate amount of power to those citizens that live there because of the way that it was drawn. So one, they counted illegal aliens. But the biggest problem, and this is really the black hole of fraud and all sorts of partisan corruption, is the process known as differential privacy. So what happens is the states are sent data But all of the data below the state level, or most of it, is scrambled. So you don’t know what the accurate data is. So one city may be listed as 500, but it could be actually 700. Or Dallas could be listed as 1.7 million, but it’s actually 1.5 million. You don’t actually know. And worse, the algorithm that dictates how accurate All of this data scrambled is not available to anyone, not even in the federal government, outside of a specific Census Bureau employees that have a clearance. So we don’t know if the population data is actually accurate. And that’s one of the things they need to go back and look at. And for instance, Texas, we already know Texas was miscounted. It was under it was undercounted by over five hundred and sixty thousand votes. Now, I remind you that the 2010 census was off nationwide by 36,000. Texas alone was miscounted by 560,000. That’s before you even get to the differential privacy issue. So one of the issues is if you do ask the question on citizenship and the next census. So, you know, the argument being we can account for that. and then we can apportion and draw political districts that don’t account for them, only account for citizens. Well, with differential privacy, you won’t know how to do that because it scrambles the data. In other words, we don’t know where those illegal aliens are as a population matter within each state accurately. So this is a bureaucrat-devised system that scrambles the data so that states are not actually able to make accurate political maps. And this is one of the big complaints and why Stephen Miller and Trump want to read me the census is even just from a differential privacy perspective this is not correct and by the way there’s been lots of studies harvard has openly admitted that this is an unconstitutional process harvard is not a bastion of right-wing uh thought you know it is a very leftist institution a lot of other academic institutions have figured out that the way that this process occurs is undercounting rural areas and overcounting bigger cities, which moves voting power even further towards cities and further away from rural communities. So this is why the president wants to republish the 2020 census, because if you undo the differential privacy scrambling of the data, get the accurate data, and then don’t count illegal aliens for the purposes of representation, you can still count them for federal funding formulas that go out in which programs that might apply to illegal aliens they would qualify or legal immigrants that qualify. You can still do the federal funding formulas and get money out the door as required by statute. But for the purposes of a politically drawn map for political districts and elections, you don’t have to count them. And so I think that the Trump administration wants to do that. It’s the right thing to do. Just ignoring what the outcomes might be, this is the way the census should run, and it’s the right thing to do. Now then, it will probably help Republicans significantly in both the electoral college count and in the congressional count, because these maps, and blue states especially, heavily skew the political power away from red rural areas of their states and into the blue heavier population areas of their states, which are the cities. And if you make it so that that’s not the case anymore, it’s going to be a lot harder for the left to draw the maps the way they have to give them unearned Democrat seats. And it will be easier for Republicans to draw maps that are more representative of their population, which will net increase Republican share of seats. So this will—it is a big deal because it represents a significant swing in congressional representation and the Electoral College— And it’s the right thing to do. Regardless of the partisan outcome, it is actually how this instance is supposed to work. It’s how apportionment is supposed to work. And it’s how congressional districts are supposed to be drawn.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, Wade Miller, I think the big, broad middle of America, whether or not it is moderate Democrats or unaffiliated libertarians, conservatives, Republicans, I think that all of us want to have honest reporting. I don’t think that we want to live in a country where the people that are in – and I’ll have air quotes – the elected office are were in elected office because of, I don’t know, do you call this fraud or whatever the term is, but got there through nefarious actions. I think people want to make sure that we are dealing from a point of honesty. So we’ve got about a minute left. This is huge, and I recommend that people read the piece. It’s pretty extensive, but… But I think that it’s a really important piece. So your final thought on this, Wade Miller, and thank you for sharing this with us.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I think that it’s really important if you want to ask the citizenship question to make sure that political maps only represent citizens of the United States. Then you so one, you can advocate for asking that question on the next census. I think that that’s probably going to occur. They’re already moving towards that. But differential privacy matters. will negate a lot of what you’re doing by asking that question if you don’t get rid of differential privacy it won’t matter and i think your point is correct everyone what everyone wants is accurate data going to the states the states are going to do what they’re going to do at that point but at the very least they need to have accurate data the population counts need to be accurate we need to know where those populations are at in the state And again, the algorithm that scrambles all of this, we don’t know. It’s not public. So we don’t know the variables, the values of those variables. Is the data being scrambled by 40 percent or is it 2 percent? Either way, it’s scrambled and it’s not accurate. But what are these bureaucrats doing and what do they think that they could get away with? And I’d really like to dig into that and figure that out.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, well, we’ll have another conversation. Thank you so much. And again, that’s Wade Miller with the Center for Renewing America. Our quote for the end of the show is from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. He said, Perseverance is a great element of success. If you only knock long enough and loud enough at the gate, you are sure to wake up somebody. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you’re not alone. God bless you. God bless America. We’ll be back with our number two.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team, that’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Friday, Producer Joe.
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SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 22 :
We’re talking about the anti-2A rally that was being held that Bennett was invited to. Yes. Who’s probably going to be our next or the main gubernatorial candidate that’s running for the Democrats next. Yeah, no, it was just a gun grabbers event talking about, Benet mentioned weapons of war and going after firearms. So Alicia was there live in the studio, or live in the, not the studio, but live at the event. So she can probably talk more on that event.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, Alicia, where was this? Tell us a little bit more.
SPEAKER 07 :
So I found this quite interesting that The event was held at Thornton. So I’m a resident of Thornton. So I said, oh, I better be there. It was at the Tradewinds Recreational Center. And one of the things that was quite unusual to me is that the location of the event wasn’t released until that morning of the event. So Teddy and I usually have a podcast we film every Wednesday in studio live. And we rescheduled that just so I could be in the room with not only Gabby Gifford, but Senator Bennett, Monica Duran and all of their cronies. They had people wanting. So you were prohibited, quote unquote, from voting. carrying firearms, weapons, things of that nature. They ID’d you at the front door. You would have thought that I was going to meet somebody quite important, but alas, it’s just people who are absolutely terrified of guns. Just so people out there understand, when you’re doing preventative quote-unquote measures for weapons and screenings, wanting someone technically isn’t considered a way to disarm people in the state of Colorado. You would need metal detection devices permanently in place at every entrance and exit. Now, they did pass a law that prohibits people carrying firearms in buildings that are conducting government affairs. Now, I don’t think this is something that would be considered government affairs, but alas, it was just another way that they can disarm people and act as if guns are the problem. One of the things that I noticed that Senator Bennett said is that These are automatic weapons. They are, you know, mass destruction devices. They’re weapons of war. They are going to do everything that they can to continue the fight to, you know, disarm people from these types of weapons. And I found it quite interesting, and I don’t know if it’s because Gabby Gifford is suffering from some sort of brain damage from being shot, but the woman has a very, very difficult time putting together any type of statements or sentences. He talks very much as if they’re children. It was very elementary and no real answers were given. Monica Durand was very adamant about talking about how uh… gabe evans is the problem and that they have done everything that they can to pass different types of legislation she uses the excuses that she is a uh… survivor of domestic violence and she is also a concealed carry permit holder and a gun owner so she acts as if she’s representative of this community and pawns herself off as this is what responsible gun ownership looks like and to which we all understand that their main goal is not to protect the people is to disarm them
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, and so that was an event that was this last week. There is also some new laws that have gone into effect. Which one of you want to take that? I think it’s important that people know that.
SPEAKER 22 :
I can talk to that. Okay, Teddy, what’s… Yeah, I can talk to that effect. Okay. So we had a new law go into place where now gun stores can basically check to make sure firearms are not stolen. The issue with the law is that it’s written in a way where if firearm stores have a reasonable suspicion, and it doesn’t really define what that suspicion is, but if this firearm store… has a suspicion that the firearm could be stolen, we are required to check, and we’re required to check with the Sheriff’s Department, and they have three days to get back to us. So now we essentially have a three-day wait on selling your firearms to a store, not just purchasing them. So that’s one of the laws that went into effect. That went into effect, if I remember correct, on Wednesday, and that’ll be the new norm here in Colorado going forward. So yeah, that’s where we’re at now. Just another law that went into effect from this last legislative session.
SPEAKER 11 :
And there were a number of different firearms pieces of legislation. Of course, the big one everybody knew about was Senate Bill 003. But sometimes I think, Teddy, that you have these big overreach on our Second Amendment types of pieces of legislation. And then they are sliding in other things as well. And we saw that in this particular legislative session. So final thought, Teddy, that you’d like to leave with our listeners before we go.
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Just be ready for 2026. And also, we do have another special session coming up here on August 18th. Keep an eye out on what’s going on there. Let’s see if they try to use gun stores as piggy banks again for their $1 billion shortfall that’s occurring. I have a feeling we’re going to have more taxation coming in or they’re going to try to get rid of tape work. So be prepared for August 18th and be prepared for next year.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think that’s a big possibility. So thank you, Teddy Collins. And Alicia, your final thought.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, just to jump into what Teddy said, the special session is actually going to start on August 21st. So more than 220 new laws took effect. A day ago. And so this year there was over 700 laws in the session of 2025 that they proposed to pass. So it’s very important now more than ever that people get involved. You know, not voting, not taking a stance is making a choice to be OK with this type of government overreach. And the second syndicate needs the support. We need you. We are fighting heavily and we are fighting consistently against this. these types of legislation and these types of politicians. So please head to the secondsyndicate.com. Donate what you can. We are 100% a nonprofit, and everything that we do is going towards the protection and the preservation of the Second Amendment. So we really appreciate everybody’s support.
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And that is the number two. So it’s the number two in the syndicate.com. Teddy, Alicia, thank you for your great work. We’ll talk again next week.
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Thanks, Kim. Have a great weekend.
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And yes, it is Friday, and welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Did want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is because of all of our sponsors, all of your support, that this independent voice is on this independent station, searching for truth and clarity on these issues. And I’m pleased to have on the line with me Travis Bakkenstedt, and he is the president and chief experience officer of Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care, where he leads the company’s strategic growth program while ensuring exceptional experiences for patients and clients. This sounds good. He’s a passionate health care disruptor, and he’s spent the past six years focused on reforming the U.S. health care system with a mission to restore primary care and family medicine as its foundation. He has had many awards throughout the community, and he is also a co-founder of Pinnacle. Travis Bockenstedt, welcome to the show.
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Thanks so much for having me on this morning.
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Well, and Travis, health care, it’s really front and center. And the Obamacare was supposed to make supposedly health care more accessible and less expensive. But I don’t think that’s the case. And so you have this health care model that is disrupting the industry. So tell us about that.
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Yeah, I really believe the U.S. health care system is the tapeworm of our economy. It’s draining the bank accounts of our businesses, their employees and families, and we’ve got to do something about it. But when we really talk about how do we fix the health care system, we really need to start at the foundation. And unfortunately, we don’t value the family doctor like we used to because you’ve overreacted. only been getting seven minutes with them, waiting six weeks for a visit, and then you end up in the ER in urgent care. So we said, let’s flip it on its side. Let’s take family medicine, make it a membership model, just like Netflix or your food box, that you get delivered to your home and allow consumers to buy their health care directly from their doctor instead of using that insurance company in the middle. And the magic of what we can do with that by just flipping the payment model is really, really amazing. And that’s what we’re trying to do, introduce a free market health care solution to people that is truly independent.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, Travis Bachenstadt, I thought that there were limitations on being able to do something like this in Obamacare, the Unaffordable Care Act. So tell me about that.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, so imagine this. There are a ton of things you can put on your health savings account. You have the power to go out and buy medical services. But direct primary care was not an eligible expense. So you as a consumer were banned from going to a practice like mine and using your HSA card because it conflicted with tax law. Now, my personal opinion on this is that big healthcare wanted a stream of cash into their systems, and it wasn’t allowing free market consumers to go out and purchase their care. We’re talking a membership of $85 a month. for an individual to have unlimited access to our clinic with no copays, deductibles, or offices at fees. And we are not the only practice doing this. Colorado is actually the second highest state in the nation of direct primary care practices. So we’re all over the state. And another big thing to keep in mind is that when we look at what folks are looking at for health care, is they do not want big health care telling them what to do with their body. They don’t want people forcing them to do things with their children that they don’t want to do. And if you’re hooked up to big insurance and big health care, you don’t have that autonomy. So we’re getting back to that good old family doctor who you trust and know to make health care decisions about your family.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I love that. So and what if something big happens, though, some catastrophic health care event? How is that handled?
SPEAKER 23 :
with direct primary care that’s a really good question so a good primary care office and doctor can actually do a lot when they’re given more than just seven minutes because we’re not processing insurance claims and having to run 20 to 30 people through the clinic a day Our doctors see 6 to 10 patients a day for an average of a 40-minute encounter. So we can avoid many specialty referrals. We can avoid you having to go to the ER urgent care for UTIs and ear infections and things like that. So we really look at health insurance as a mechanism to protect you from going bankrupt if something big happens. Now, here’s a sad thing, though. Seventy percent of Americans who are in medical bankruptcy have insurance. Now, there are really great free market alternatives there to pair with the DPC membership. Some people know of Christian Health Ministries, which is a health share. We partner with a health share out of Utah called Zion. And that’s another free market solution where you pay in and a community of people, if you have a major medical incident, those funds come together to help you out to pay for those expenses. So there’s a truly free market solutions out there to cover your everyday wellness needs. and have some protection for major medical events.
SPEAKER 11 :
OK, I grew up with a relationship with we had a family doctor and that is so important because I think medicine is really more of an art than a science because everybody’s different. Everybody’s different. So you can’t just have a kind of a cookie cutter response to things. And if a doctor is only seeing a patient for a few minutes a day, they can’t understand what’s going on with the patient. So I love what you’re doing.
SPEAKER 23 :
Right, and here’s the other thing we’re facing. Would you want to go into family medicine if you know you’re going to be paid the less of your specialty peers, you’re going to see 20 to 30 patients a day, you’re going to have to document that encounter with over 69,000 medical billing codes, so you cannot have a relationship with your provider. Believe it or not, after the ACA went into place, there were about 80% of family practices that were owned by the physician. We are now down to less than 20% of family practices being owned by the physician. DPC is now allowing physicians right out of medical school, experienced physicians, to come into a place that supports them so they can provide great care. And we need more independent family practices in our country, and DPC is a way for physicians to do that. It’s all reoccurring revenue-based. Pays goes directly to the doctor, no middleman.
SPEAKER 11 :
Boy, you can do a lot when you cut out the middleman. So you said that it’s about $85 a month. Is that for an individual or for a family?
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, we actually have two types of memberships, and a lot of DPCs in the state have this. We have retail size. These are just everyday consumers, soon-to-be people with HSA cards that can purchase that membership on their own. And then, we actually serve about 250 small businesses along the Front Range. You’re talking coffee shops, landscaping companies who could never afford healthcare for their team, and they’re able to get our subsidized rates of $69 a month for an employee and only $180 for an entire family to join the practice. These membership rates are pretty similar across Colorado and the country. So I think that’s very affordable to get all of your primary care needs met.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. And now if people can use their HSA account to purchase this, and they used to not be able to, right? Did I hear you say that correctly? Yes.
SPEAKER 23 :
Exactly. You could not use your HSA card to pay for a doctor in a DPC, which is pretty mind-boggling.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, my gosh. It is crazy. So let’s go to break here, Travis. Before we do that, though, let’s make sure people know how they can reach you.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yes, you’re going to go to PinnacleAPC.com, and there you can find all sorts of information about our practice, FAQs, and pricing.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 23 :
Yes, absolutely. And I think we need to. We need to really get to the root cause at the end of the day, right? Because there’s a lot of discussion right now, Medicaid, Medicare, funding different things. But the root cause at the end of the day is big healthcare is draining these programs. There’s no free market to healthcare. If someone told you you went to a car shop and needed four tires and they said it’s going to cost five grand, you’d be like, no way, that is crazy, because you have a general concept of the cost in a free market and you can shop around. Consumers are not empowered to do that. We have no idea the true cost of a hip replacement or a specialty procedure or something like that. So it’s really the Wild West when it comes to pricing healthcare. So it really doesn’t empower the consumer at all, and I believe it is truly designed to be confusing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I have thought that as well. And this all happened under Obamacare, as I like to call it, the Unaffordable Care Act. But did the big, beautiful bill, Trump’s big, beautiful bill, is that starting to get more freedom into health care? Or where are we starting to see the support that you’re able to get? People could have this choice of direct primary care.
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, I think the HSA part of the bill was really key. There’s about 65 million Americans who have HSA cards. Now, I’ll be honest with you, here’s what I’m trying to figure out right now. Are people going to properly fund those accounts? There are some tax advantage savings to that, but you know, people have a savings problem in America. And I think that if you can self-fund a portion of your health care by putting money away, it benefits you at the end of the day. I think that, you know, when we look at the bill as a whole, I’m on board with a lot of folks to say, hey, we need to cut the fat in government. We really need to look at some programs. I get nervous, to be honest, on the health care side because I have a friend, for instance, who pays thousands of dollars in pharmacy cost every month. And if they didn’t have that safety blanket, it would be very hard once they got dropped off those programs to afford it. So that’s my only worry with this. If you put yourself in anybody’s shoes, if you’ve ever missed a prescription refill accidentally, it’s very nerve-wracking. So I want to see the transition in a smart way. Because, you know, having our body, having our health, that is part of our liberty. And we need to maintain that. So in a roundabout way, I hope I’m kind of making sense here, is that we’ve got to be very thoughtful about how we readjust these health care programs.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. So you mentioned pharmaceuticals with the direct health care program. Primary care. Is getting pharmaceuticals different than if, you know, the traditional insurance? What does that look like, Travis?
SPEAKER 23 :
So there’s a lot of industries out there that are taking a free market approach. Many of you have heard of Mark Cuban’s Cost Plus Drugs. where he is getting wholesale pricing on generic medications and passing it directly to the consumer. We partner with a similar service that provides, as of the new year, will provide unlimited generics mailed to our members’ home for zero cost. It’ll be part of that membership, so we’re using that buying power. There are also freestanding surgical services. centers that are direct specialty care. In fact, Smith Medical is located in Littleton and you go onto their website and there’s a whole menu of services from knee replacements to different procedures that are all cash pay. So there’s a whole ecosystem, free market healthcare ecosystem that’s building themselves around direct primary care practices. So we can refer our members to these different freestanding systems that save a lot of money at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. What about if somebody’s on Medicare? Is this an option for them?
SPEAKER 23 :
Yes. So I want to distinguish two things real quickly. So if you’re a Medicare recipient, you do need to sign a Medicare opt-out waiver because our DPC docs cannot take those funds, nor do we ever want to take those funds. We want to remain independent. But imagine if you’re someone who’s elderly over the age of 65, and you’re like, you know what? I want to have a really good life into retirement. Having a relationship with the doctor and getting that extended care is really important to that. Now, one thing we have to solve in our state, Colorado is one of two in the nation where Medicaid recipients cannot come to our practice. I don’t want the Medicaid dollars, but could you imagine how much we could save taxpayers if Medicaid recipients could go to a practice like ours? So we do still need to fix a few things to make it perfect.
SPEAKER 11 :
Boy, that brings up an interesting point. We’re going to have this special legislative session here in Colorado, and one of the things they’re talking about is the loss, I have that in air quotes, from the federal government on Medicaid funding. Well, it looks to me like if they got creative and innovative that they could do some things about that without… You know, without blaming the federal government for taking away so much funding. I’m just a little shocked that Colorado is one of two states in the country that does not allow Medicaid patients to partake in direct primary care. That’s pretty interesting, Travis Bockenstedt.
SPEAKER 23 :
It is. And what we really do with our patients is we build resiliency. For folks who are struggling and on these different government programs, they do not have resiliency. And we need to help build that. Some people call it picking yourself up by your bootstraps. I’m a farm boy, right? So I get that concept. But we need to start doing that with health care. And I truly believe we would not need all these government programs if health prices were not exorbitant, they were not free market and out of control. We would not need all these support systems.
SPEAKER 11 :
I see the big health care industrial complex or the insurance companies, they may not want to give up kind of their gravy train on this. I’ve always said that big government and big business like each other, and I think we saw that with the Unaffordable Care Act. So I like the idea that we are taking steps to get back to free market, and you are on the cutting edge on this at Pinnacle and Direct Primary Care. Thank you.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yes, absolutely. And what I want all of your listeners to do today is just Google direct primary care, go down a rabbit hole and start exploring free market healthcare. It’s up to me, you, your listeners to start taking their hard earned money and diverting it to practices and healthcare systems that are doing it right. But we need to take our dollar and start driving that decision. If we don’t do that, we’ll continue to have this monster of that both parties will kick back and forth every season and we won’t get anywhere.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, this is super creative. So you can serve both individuals. You can help small businesses. And I think that you said that you work with over 250 small businesses, which I think is just super awesome. And it’s affordable. People, I think, could pay out of pocket. Even if they don’t have a health savings account, they could pay out of pocket because it’s not called a premium. It’s just…
SPEAKER 23 :
a membership the membership okay membership is very affordable exactly and we wanted to design it that way right our primary objective because we’re also a local small business owner was to support what truly is the foundation of our business community i just talked about the foundations of healthcare. But the foundation of our economy are small businesses who outnumber all the large corporations in our country. But we got to make sure those small businesses still have healthcare buying power to keep their team healthy because turnover is expensive for small businesses. So this benefit actually helps small businesses attract and retain employees.
SPEAKER 11 :
And again, the other thing that I just love is the relationship with your doctor, because as your doctor gets to know you, that is so important. Let’s talk about small families and families with small children, because children, it seems, you know, you have earaches, you have fevers, all that. So what does that look like for a family in working with Pinnacle?
SPEAKER 23 :
so we do not take any non-member walk-ins you just can’t walk into our clinic and get care you have to be a member what that means is we can guarantee same day next day visits with our members which if you have a screaming kiddo with an ear ache you want to get that taken care of right away but what do you do on weekends holidays visiting the family in houston You actually have an app through Pinnacle that connects you to your actual family physician. A lot of people get Teladoc, but that’s some random doctor every time. So continuity of care is key. And imagine if you’re in Houston, little’s got an earache, and they can send a script to the nearest pharmacy for you. So that after-hours care is also really key in this. The other thing is parents are paying. A lot of money every time they have to bring those kids in. They can’t get to the family doctor, so now they’re in the ER waiting five hours. So for the family, not only are you going to get that great care, but the other important thing is that autonomy as a patient to not have big healthcare forcing your doctors to do things to you. And I think a lot of families, especially now in your listeners, protecting the family is really key.
SPEAKER 11 :
Travis, the scenario that you have just given, a family with small children traveling, and yes, there’s an ear infection. And so I just want to make sure I have this right. So it’s Saturday, and the kiddo isn’t feeling well. You can go on an app, and you’re pretty sure it’s an ear infection, and a prescription can be called in. Did I hear that right? Yes.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, so that doctor, your doctor at Pinnacle is going to jump on a video call with you. When you send them a message in the app, it does not go to a call center. It will ring your actual doctor’s cell phone. Just like the old days, 40 years ago, 50 years ago, where your family doc was essentially on call for you, right? Now, our docs are not going to be very happy if you ping them at 2 a.m. for a prescription refill because they have lives, too. But really, they are there on call for you when needed, which I do not know many people who have that service.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I don’t either. And again, in a relationship, there’s that respect. If it is 2 a.m., normally, I think parents of small children will try to make it in until the next morning and then make that call. Gosh, this is really exciting, Travis Bakkenstedt. So how can people get more information?
SPEAKER 23 :
So go to Pinnacle APC. That’s Pinnacle, like Advanced Primary Care, so PinnacleAPC.com. Or just go to Google, Google Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care. That will bring you directly to me. And we’ll have a discovery call, chat through your health needs, and see if we’re a good fit for you.
SPEAKER 11 :
And this is really a game changer for individuals and small to mid-sized businesses regarding health care options. Thank you, Travis. This is so creative and really appreciate you, your creativity and innovation because you unleash Americans’ creativity and innovation and the sky is the limit. So I wish you all great luck, lots of great luck on this, Travis.
SPEAKER 23 :
Appreciate you. Thanks so much for having me on the show. Enjoy your weekend.
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It is Friday. And I wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation is hosting an event to celebrate their 48th anniversary. And to buy tickets, you can go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. It will be on August 23rd. And typically, it’s a beautiful evening. Knock on wood. The weather committee normally does a great job. David Bray will be performing. I will be emceeing the event. Would love to have you join us. And you can buy tickets by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Really a fascinating conversation with Travis Bakkenstedt regarding Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care. And I had pulled this headline. Earlier this week, Illinois is removing over 700,000 people from their health care plan. It says these Americans have been removed from the state’s Medicaid program as part of the unwinding process happening nationwide. This is important to realize. If the government giveth, the government can taketh away. So freedom means that you’re responsible for yourself. You’re able to make decisions for yourself. Taxation is low, so you have more money in your pocket to make decisions about your own personal finances, your health care. And so this is super interesting. We’ve got Gammy on the line, and she’s got some comments. Gammy, welcome.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good Friday, Kim Revere. I challenge somebody in the audience to do a caricature drawing of Kim riding on a horse like Rush Revere and all that because, girl, you’ve been rocking it. And I just… I heard somebody call you that, and I thought, how apropos is that one? But now, the young man that just spoke, kudos. And to the whole thing, the theory, but there’s more. Do you remember when McCain was running with Sarah Palin and – She brought up, they brought up the, quote, death panels, eugenics-like decision-making. If you were to engage in, you know, single-payer centralized medical care, ACA, the Affordable Care Act, the Obamacare Act, all of it, everybody was screaming it, and people thought they were crazy. They said, oh, they’re lying. Well, they’re not lying. They have never been lying. There are… death panels on all of the central government medical because you’re guest you had on, the gal that told us about all the middlemen. I forgot her name, but she nailed it. And the problem is… I think that was Dr. Jill Vecchio, wasn’t it? I think… That’s it. Yes, that’s her. We don’t have control of our own medicine because if they determine that a procedure, even your doctor suggests if they, the middle, decide you can’t have it, you don’t get it unless you pay for it from an independent source. And the travesty of this is circle back to the special event happening here in the legislature this in the next few weeks. It’s about control of the masses. It always was. And until we can stop it, and that means defund it. That means, like you said, vote other people in, vote these people out, and hold them legally accountable. Prosecute them if they’re committing treason. If we don’t have real efforts to stop this, we’re being thrown into this full control, communist, socialist regime. Marxist, whatever you want to call it, but it’s a control. And when Obama created the Affordable Care Act and the Supreme Court decided to switch that glitch in the bill to a fee instead of a tax, which they interfered in a bill, in my opinion, What they did was take more control, and that means the individual no longer can keep… Most of us lost our individual primary care doctors, and it’s a struggle to keep proper care. But this is what has to be done if you want to control people. So since Mr. Governor Polis is a World Economic Forum graduate, he’s part of the roundtable and the…
SPEAKER 11 :
the gang of four billionaires who are the ones controlling all the election we’re being controlled well because that’s what they have to do well and to that point to that is why liberty the responsible exercise a freedom in gaming thank you so much you are so informed and that you connect the dots and i know that she did your your brain is just on fire on a consistent basis as you are connecting dots on these things but ultimately And when we look at these things, these different issues is do I have more control over my life or does government or some bureaucracy have more control over my life or some interested party? And freedom is so important. And I think that people like the idea of security, but there is no security with more and more government overreach. And a perfect example is this headline that I mentioned regarding Illinois. And this is from Newsweek. And it was just two days ago that Illinois is removing nearly 700,000 people from a health care plan. So people thought that they had security of this Medicaid health care plan. Well, they don’t. And so people, we need to understand that we need to be taking more control, more responsibility, liberty, responsible exercise of freedom over our lives. And in order to do that… We have to keep more of our money. So this is going to connect this dot back to Nancy Rumsfeld or the conversations we had with Jason Bailey regarding Citizens for No New Debt is we need to continue to keep more of the money in our pocket. We need to be saying no. to all these new debt and tax questions, and keeping more money in our pockets so that we have more freedom to make the decisions that we need to for our lives. And so really important point, Gammy, and I really do appreciate your thoughts on that. And I want to make sure that I’ve done all the things that I’m supposed to get done here, which I think that I have on that. So We must have these conversations. There is this – I think the word is inflection. I’ve got to look that up. This inflection point right now regarding liberty. In many ways, I think that we are at our 1775 moment in our third founding of our country. We are in this huge battle of ideas that is raging right now. But do you not take great heart – from hearing from our different guests today. For example, Paula Sarles, who’s doing all this work to honor those through the USMC Memorial Foundation and the work that they do. Or we have Nancy Rumfeldt, who she has been on the front line. She said she’s had six one votes. These people are not representing… We elect school board members to be the representatives of the people So that we can ideally provide a good education for our children. Well, that whole thing’s been hijacked. And when you see that there’s a 6-1 vote on so many of these important things, we realize that many of these people that are in elected positions are not representing we the people. And then understanding that there’s been funny stuff going on with our census. I hadn’t even thought about how that could affect congressional seats in different states. And it is extensive, but I’d recommend that you read Wade Miller’s piece at AmericanRenewing.com. And then Travis Bakkenstedt talking about what is happening at Pinnacle University. advanced primary care. This is exciting. And of course, then Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins with the great work they’re doing at the Second Syndicate. These things give us hope. And we need to understand what’s happening out there. And then once we do, we can engage in conversations. with our friends and our family and our our colleagues and so that’s why we do the show is to help you do that our quote for the end of the show is from henry wadsworth longfellow he said perseverance is a great element of success if you only lock knock long enough and loud enough at the gate you are sure to wake up somebody so today be grateful read great books think good thoughts listen to beautiful music communicate and listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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