As inflation and tariffs continue to be hot topics, John Rush and Andy Pate tackle them head-on, providing listeners with insights into the real impacts of these economic factors on everyday life. The duo critiques the mainstream understanding and predictions about inflation, drawing parallels with past economic forecasts that missed the mark. With engaging analogies and real-world examples, John and Andy offer an enlightening conversation that sparks curiosity and questions the status quo. Stay tuned as they seamlessly transition into pop culture with a thrilling review of the movie ‘Weapons,’ showcasing their versatile approach to talk radio.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy, and Charlie, before we go to the movie review Andy wants to have today, because we weren’t able to do it on Friday. Oh, man, the text line is lit up, and everybody thought that we were… I mean, we were okay with Jordan, but, yeah, we hit him pretty hard today, so…
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Well, you want to take a moment? We can talk about this. Come back after the break.
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We can.
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Go ahead. Okay, let’s take a moment on this because, look, I’m sorry, but it’s been month by month by month by month. And I know I kind of felt that we were talking at break. I felt I was a little hard on him.
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I don’t think so. I mean, I think sometimes the record needs set because a lot of these finance guys, and a lot of you listen to me on a regular basis, and you know my feeling on a lot of these finance guys. And what’s funny is we’ll have Jordan Goodman on today, and I’ll have Scott Garlis on tomorrow. And Scott, by the way, even though he’s a finance guy and he’s in that same world that Jordan is, just has a completely different outlook on it. Right. Right. Then Jordan does. It’s like polar opposites of one another. And I think Scott gets, frankly, a little bit more realistic when it comes to the things that we talk about, because he’s a little more aligned with what Andy and I talk about and pretty much would say the same things we’re saying when it comes to tariffs and where we’re at and what they’re actually doing and so on. And Scott really comes in line with you and I. So it is fun, though, Andy, to see the difference in the dynamics from those two individuals.
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It’s very interesting to see the difference. For me, John, it’s always come down to this. The numbers aren’t going up. It has now been four or five months of this before. And the inflation numbers aren’t going up. And moreover, there are some very obvious reasons for this. And this is what I keep pressing, not just on Jordan, but on other people. Look, guys, it’s very simple. go back before trump’s tariffs right okay so you have a lot of these uh overseas companies and they’re selling things to america let’s say you’ve got a company and it’s going to sell this widget this project product to americans right well they already and you have american companies also trying to sell that kind of a widget right okay so you got competition here’s the problem That foreign company has far, far lower labor costs. They have virtually no environmental standards being imposed on them by their government. They do not. Okay. They also at the time had no tariffs that they had to worry about while we were having to face, our companies were having to face massive tariffs selling into their country. Okay. You see all that? Now, because of those three factors, they had a much higher profit margin. on the widget so let’s say that they could make the widget for only four dollars whereas it would cost us ten dollars to make the widget they could still we would have to sell the widget for 12 bucks just to make that 20% profit. They could sell the widget for $10 and be making three times the profit. They could undersell us and still make three times the profit. So Trump comes along and says, you know what? They’re making much higher profit margin. They’re going to be able to lower those profit margins, eat the costs of these tariffs. After the initial bargaining phase, when you get away from the 35%, 40%, whatever percent, obviously they can’t eat all that profit. But eventually you get down to the 10, 15, 19% range. And they’re going to be able to eat a good portion of that. Why? Because they already had a much higher profit margin selling to America. Does that make sense? And Trump knew that. That’s why a lot of these… Do I think that we’re going to see mild inflation? A little? Yeah. You don’t think we’re going to see any. And that’s fine. But the bottom line is…
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When I say mild, I don’t mean much. If we see any at all, Andy, and I would have told Jordan this, maybe half a point at the end of the day, which is kind of what you’re seeing right now. Maybe that’s about where we’re at. I don’t see it really changing much from there. I’m sorry. I don’t care what all of the quote-unquote pundits say, and there’s a lot of them. Now, remember, there was a lot of pundits during COVID, by the way, Andy, that were telling everybody about everything in regards to COVID and this, that, and the other. And, you know, all of us on our side of the aisle, we’re a bunch of nutjobs. We have no idea what we’re talking about, blah, blah, blah. You had the same thing happening when inflation was actually soaring. All these pundits, it’s just transitory. It’s going to come back down. It’s just transitory. It’s going to come back down. Reality is, Andy, no, they were all wrong. And I’ll be straight up honest, they’re all wrong this time as well. Yeah. Well, let’s use a quick example.
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Brazil, right? Now, first of all, is it going to stay at 50% on Brazil? Of course it isn’t. This is a negotiating tactic.
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Correct.
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Okay.
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But really quick, but you have to also look at the core, and this is what I’ve done with a lot of these countries. Look at the core of what we buy from them.
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That’s what I was going to get to.
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And the reality is there’s not that much day-to-day things that we’re buying from Brazil that’s going to take those inflation numbers we were talking about with Jordan in the last hour. It’s not going to move that needle much at all, Andy. It just isn’t because the majority of the stuff we get from Brazilian are pretty large-ticket items that we even buy as a government, per se, not necessarily as consumers.
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Right. Now, there are some really neat things we get from Brazil. Let’s say after the negotiations, they finally go through, because Brazil, of course, will collapse without the American market.
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They have to have us.
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Right. So let’s say that it winds up, I’m just going to say 15%. Okay. Okay. What are the major things we get from Brazil? Well, you’re talking about this beef. Brazilian wood, which is very good, by the way. There are a number of Brazilian spices, right?
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Coffee. Coffee. Coffee’s a big one. Yeah, exactly. As far as most consumers are concerned, that’s probably the biggest one, Andy.
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Well, yeah, coffee, but you can get that from Colombia.
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A lot of other places.
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Okay, here’s the thing. Each one of those four things we get in very close to or the same form from many other sources. We can get wood elsewhere, many good kinds of wood, beautiful wood. Walnut, by the way, is my favorite. We can get coffee from Colombia. We can get coffee from America. We can get coffee from many, many sources. Every one of those things we can get from many other places. Here’s what I mean. Let’s say that the Brazilian producers decide to not eat any of the 15% cost, and they just jack up all their prices. They leave them where they are, and then when they come into our ports, that is just passed along to the consumers. Guess what? No one’s going to buy their stuff. Correct. Why? Because I can get wood here. I can get coffee there. I can get this here. I can get that there. Yours suddenly went up. I go to the store. I see that your wood, your coffee, and your beef and everything is this much more expensive. I’m going to buy somebody else’s. You’re going to lose all the sales. So, John, do you honestly think that Brazil is not going to eat, that their producers are not going to eat a good portion of that 15%? They’re going to, right? I agree. So, therefore, you’re not going to see a big bump in inflation. I know that I get a little pushy on this, okay? But I’m sorry, but isn’t this exactly what we’ve been seeing? We’ve been asking every month now for the last four months, okay, when does the inflation hit? Well, it’s coming. And I’m not talking about Jordan even. I’m talking about the Fed. We’re asking the Fed, you keep holding our rates up and you keep saying the inflation’s coming, the inflation’s coming, the inflation. You know what? It’s about to turn September, man. And you’ve kept our rates up and you destroyed our housing industry by doing it.
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I agree with you. You know my feelings on this.
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This is why I get kind of emotional on it because, John, I’m not in housing, okay? I don’t build houses. I don’t do all the things because electricians, plumbers, everybody, they make a ton of money. Roofers make huge money. How about loaners, lenders, right? They make huge money when the housing industry is revved up. That is the only thing holding back the Trump boom right now, and that’s why I get personal about it. That’s why I get mad. It’s the only thing holding back the Trump boom. And I believe, hypothetically, if he were out, and I’m talking the Fed chair, if Powell were out, We would have an economic boom the likes of which we have not seen in decades. And I believe that our stock market, if he were out, our stock market by next year, sometime next year, might even hit 50.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush. And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Never get to ask this on Tuesdays.
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No, we never do on Tuesdays.
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Are you ready for a movie?
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Absolutely.
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All right, John. Well, I couldn’t review this film last Friday because the theater overlapped it with everything else, which was really annoying, by the way, because this was actually the biggest movie of the weekend. So let’s listen to Weapons. Weapons.
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This is a true story that happened in my town. So this one Wednesday is like a normal day for the whole school. But today was different. Every other class had all their kids. But Mrs. Gandy’s room was totally empty. And do you know why? Because the night before, at 2.17 in the morning, every kid woke up, got out of bed, walked downstairs, and into the dark. And they never came back.
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I don’t understand at all. Why just her classroom? Why only hers? We’re children.
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We have a lot of emotional parents here. I think it’s best if you keep some distance from this place.
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Matthew, where are you?
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Where did you go?
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This is where the story really starts.
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Oh, John, what do you think?
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Some of my favorite actors and actresses in this movie, by the way.
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I know, I know. Okay, here we go. One night in the town of Maybrook at 2.17 a.m., a bunch of children, they climb out of bed, they walk out their front doors, and then they run off into the darkness, vanishing without a trace. Now, what do they all have in common, John? They’re all in a class taught by Justine Gandy. That’s her name, Justine Gandy, played by Julia Garner. Now, John… None of the kids from the other classrooms run off.
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Just hers. This is Ruth from Ozark, by the way, for all of you that don’t know her name.
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I love her. I’m a big fan, personally. It’s a personal thing here. But anyway, John, what do you think all the parents are thinking of Justine right now? It’s her fault. Yeah, of course. They’re just like, my gosh, where do all the kids go? How come only your classroom? It’s quite an uproar. Okay, well, one student, though, remains. named Alex. Alex came in to class and he’s played by a young guy named Kerry Christopher. I’ll get to him in a bit. Well, naturally, the town is in an uproar and Justine is under intense suspicion. Alex doesn’t look too good either, right? He’s the only one who didn’t get taken. Well, Justine, she’s very shaken. She decides to study Alex to see what happened. That’s not a good idea, right? Now, her principal, of course, tells her, hey, don’t speak to Alex. Let the cops investigate. You cannot approach Alex. Okay. Well, she doesn’t listen. She stalks him, of course. Of course. Well, look, she has a whole town after her, John. And she’s wondering, I’ve got to figure this out. And the only clue is the kid who wasn’t taken. Why is this? Why was he not taken? Because that can help me find out why they were. And she’s looking and listening to these cops, and she’s just not convinced. Of course, if you were her, would you be convinced by anything?
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No.
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No, of course, you’re terrified with what’s going on. Well, one grieving dad named Archer, he’s played by one of my favorite actors, Josh Brolin, he decides to investigate Justine. See, he’s not buying that she has nothing to do with it, so he’s tracking her while she tracks the kid. She tracks him, he tracks her. Okay, but this isn’t just a story about these central characters. Rather, John, it’s about a town, which, like most towns, has a lot of people hiding their own sins and failings. Now, in a series of vignettes, we see one personal story after another, with each sequence offering a little more detail as to what has happened. So you get a little piece of it here. You get a little piece of it there. So you see her story, then his story, then the next guy’s story, then the next guy’s story. And you’re seeing more and more of what actually happened to all the kids. Yes, something terrifying has occurred and some terrible deaths are on the way. You know that. It’s a horror movie. Okay, come on. But why? Who is a victim? Who is a villain? What is natural? What is supernatural? This movie doesn’t blurt out the answer so much as let it unfold before us.
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That’s good.
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Well, horror meets mystery in the new hit movie, Weapons. What do you think?
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It sounds good. Yeah. For a horror movie, it sounds really good, actually.
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Well, you and I both love the two leading actors, right? Julia Garner and Josh Brolin. I mean, come on. How do you lose there? Okay, well, what works in weapons? First of all, John, tremendous balance. You and I have talked about a lot of these movies, okay? You’ve got a creepy beginning. You have a mystery that builds throughout the film with twists and turns. You’ve got terrifying deaths, a shocking climax. This has it all. How many times have I done these kinds of movies and said, boy, it started off good, but, boy, the ending. Or, you know, through the middle it just fell apart. Or the beginning, it took forever to get going. Not this movie. right from the start and right till the end. It’s gotcha. Okay, next. Just as importantly, this film is well-written. That’s a lost art in Hollywood today, right?
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It’s well written.
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It’s got an excellent script. It’s even funny at times, which I really liked. And of course, you’ve got actors who know how to, let’s face it, bring the humor. And so they bring a humor while also bringing the terror. They bring it all to this story. It’s very well done. Next. The star power was worth it.
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It’s awesome.
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It was. Well, Sometimes you have stars that are just shoved into movies because you want to sell some tickets. And even though their role isn’t that good, you shove this star or that star into a role, and they just plod through the role, and they help you sell the tickets, but they don’t do much with it. Not here. Josh Brolin, great as always.
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Always.
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Wonderful job. Julia Garner, great as always. Ditto. In fact, every single actor was spot on. And young Kerry Christopher is a find. He’s a find. You’re going to see him in a lot of stuff. He was terrific. He did a great job in this movie. Now, this is a film that really nails the timing, John. It builds the dread. It brings the shock. It ends strong. It’s got the whole thing. Love it. Next, the cinematography. Because when you’re talking about a horror movie, especially running off into the night, how’s the look? Is it haunting? Is it cool? Yes, it is. And the way the kids and others run in this movie, they all run alike, is creepy.
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Okay.
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It’s well done. I like it. Nearly all the horror action happens in the last third. Now, there are pieces, you know, horror pieces along the way. But mostly, most of this movie is a mystery. And you’re seeing various… Points of view that are helping you see more and more of this mystery. I’m not going to give any away, but it’s intense. All right. And the action that happens in the last third is very intense. Very well done. Again, this has the best ending of the year. This movie has the best ending of the year easily. It’s awesome to watch the crowd. Well, let’s just say we had a great time. And I’ll leave it at that. Okay. What doesn’t work in weapons? It’s going to keep coming down to one word. Okay. First of all, I don’t think a town would rush to judgment quite this much. Okay. I mean, how could a teacher get all these kids to simultaneously walk out their doors and run off into the night? Why is there no evidence of any kind pointing to her? And you pretty much get that from the trailer. She’s wondering why. I mean, obviously, it’s implausible, John. It’s implausible. The rush to judgment is a little too much. And you’ll get that feel when you watch it. At one point, all the name tags are missing off the kids’ baskets, but the teacher doesn’t notice. That’s implausible. It’s very implausible. There are some ghastly moments. One is with forks, another with a cheese slicer. I’ll just leave that at that. That have far too little blood. It’s like, no way. These moments would be way bloodier. So you got some moments. I won’t describe them, but they should be a lot bloodier. And they’re not. And you’re just like, huh? Most of the vignettes, and here’s the last thing, could have been edited down by, I don’t know, just about three minutes each. They just went a little too slow here, a little too slow there. Not bad, not bad. This movie didn’t drag. I think it totally kept you captivated with the story all along, but it could have moved a little quicker. This movie’s a little over two hours. I really believe they could have done it in an hour and a half. So just, you know, take about 10, 15 minutes off this thing, and I think it would have been tight and more explosive. All right. Rotten Tomatoes. They love this movie. They gave this movie 95%. I basically agree. I’m going to give it four stars. Now, for me, this movie is four and a half stars. For me, this movie is clearly so far the best movie of the year. All right. But I’m going to give it four stars because I did question a bunch of the audience members as they came out. Hey, do you give a thumbs up, thumbs down and so forth? Not a surprise. All the guys gave it a thumbs up. The girls, there were no thumbs down. All right. A couple of the women gave it a thumb sideways because I give that as an option. And they were just, well, it was a little too creepy, a little too. I couldn’t really follow it. It wasn’t my thing. And maybe the ending, which is wild. I’ll just say that was maybe a bit much for them. OK. OK. Not one lady. One lady absolutely loved the ending. She was still laughing with delight at the ending. So I’ll just you know. So it was it was a wide variety of ways that people looked at this movie. I’ll just say that I’m giving this four stars and I’m going to give it personally. I’m giving it so far the strong. I haven’t given a four and a half all year. I won’t because the audience didn’t go quite as high as I did. OK. And I’m reviewing it for them, not me. But I’m going to say right now, John, this is the best movie of the year. Wow. Yes. Political. I’ll just knock it down just a touch. No. Political three. Okay. More religious. I’m going to take it down to one and a half. It’s got a sex scene you don’t need. It’s got gay characters. I didn’t mind. I thought the gay characters played very well in this movie. But, you know, I’m just letting people know.
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Right. It’s there.
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It’s content. Okay. And, you know. Come on. It’s obviously kind of a bit of a sleep. You’re looking into the underbelly of people’s lives.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Do I recommend going to weapons folks? If you can handle a horror mystery. Yes. Go to weapons. I believe I’ve warned you about some of the content. Okay. But I believe that this is so far the best movie of the year. It was entertaining. It was gripping. It was one of the few movies this year that had me the whole way.
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On a scary note from one to five, how is it?
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Oh, scary note one to five, I’m going to give it, gosh, there’s some moments that are very scary. For a John Rush, it’s a four.
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Okay.
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Okay. I think for horror fans.
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Like a three?
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It’s a two.
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Okay.
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All right. For me, three.
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Okay. Good to know.
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Does that help?
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Yeah, we should start adding that on the horror movie ones. Put a little separate category in there for how scary is the movie itself.
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You see, you hate horror movies.
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Because I don’t like them.
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Everything scares you.
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I don’t like them. Yeah, I’m just not into them.
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Yeah. There are moments that are very scary. They do very well with the, I’ll just say, with the visuals.
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Okay. but good to know it’s good okay this is a good movie okay weapons all right dr scott faulkner is coming up next and if you want a doctor again that thinks like we do here that will treat you the way you need to be treated not the way big health care big pharma i had a long conversation with a good friend of mine yesterday asking about all of the things involved with dr scott and how does he do this and how does he do that and how can he help me with this and how can he help me with that and Honestly, folks, and I answered all the questions and was happy to do so. But really, at the end of the day, just call Scott. If you’ve got any questions about what you might be encountering and how he would do things differently, pick up the phone and dial 303-663-6990.
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All right, and we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Let’s talk about D.C. for a moment because the mayor there, of course, doesn’t want to admit that there’s any problem with crime in D.C. Of course, Donald Trump, he is on an all-out mission to get it cleaned up, ship out homeless people, do whatever is necessary to make the, as he calls it, front door to America look far better than it does right now. Which, by the way, he’s correct. I agree with him.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree, but I don’t think that’s his motivation for doing this at all. I’ll get to that in a moment. John, let me ask you this, though. The crime statistics, as horrifying as they are in Washington, D.C., do you even think they’re real and honest? No, it’s worse. It’s worse. It’s absolutely worse. They’ve been fudging the numbers. You know they have. I mean, they have a guy who’s under investigation right now who’s been fired for cooking the books on crime numbers right there in Washington, D.C. It’s bad. Here’s why I think Trump is doing it. He wants to make every Democrat mayor look bad in our country.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, no. Yeah. And his excuse or not excuse his reasoning as to, you know, this is the front door to America. And when people come to visit and look at the monuments and everything else, we need to be the shining city on the hill and really look like the country that we actually are. And I would agree with that. Now, on the same token, he knows Democrats run it. Yeah. He’s not stupid.
SPEAKER 07 :
Democrats run all these major cities, and what do they always say? They can always grade each other on a curve. Well, you know, we are eighth in the country in crime amongst major cities. Well, we’re fourth. We’re twelfth. We’re actually doing very well. You know, that’s because you’re only graded against Democrat-run cities that are a nightmare. So you look at Seattle, you look at Baltimore, Minneapolis, Chicago, Denver, San Fran, L.A., so forth. They can all grade against each other. Now, one city… And it was the fourth worst city in the country in crime, Washington, D.C., is going to be run by Trump. And it’s going to be run by his people, and all the crime is going to go away. And what you’re going to see is exactly what he’s done on the border. After all these years of Democrats saying, well, this is the best we can do. We can’t stop the flow. There’s too many people. It completely stopped. What if he does that with crime? in D.C.
SPEAKER 03 :
He probably will. Well, he will at the end of the day. It’s not probably, Andy. He will.
SPEAKER 07 :
And really quick, before we go to Dan, how does that make the mayor of Denver look? The mayor of L.A.?
SPEAKER 03 :
Great point. No, great point. And by the way, it’s something you could dovetail into on our side of the aisle here. Dan and Blackhawk, go ahead.
SPEAKER 18 :
Hey, well, a good thing, last week I wasn’t able to call in. I don’t know if you guys saw it or not. We were talking messaging for the conservatives, Republicans.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
And what What happened, I think it was like two, three, four weeks ago, they released or removed the gag order that they had on pastors, the IRS. That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
I talked about that on air. I did talk about that, yes.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, I wasn’t sure if you did or not, but that can go right in line with crime and everything else where hopefully pastors can start talking about this stuff without threat of It was in their tax exempt status.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s a great point. According to – and I talked about this on air last week, Dan, how I have sat in church meetings whereby I have literally told people, pastors and other elders and so on, and literally have sat there and said, listen, do you know – that the IRS has never one time, not one single time, ever come after any kind of a church for doing anything along those lines politically whatsoever. So what are we all afraid of? And I would literally pose that question, and I would always get back this mealy mouth, well, you know, but we don’t want to be the first, and we don’t want to cross that line, and we don’t want to lose our tax-exempt status. And my point was, then they can sue us at the end of the day. Who cares? There’s all sorts of folks out there that would take that case up all day long for free. It’s a non-issue. But more churches than not, Dan, take that position of, you know, we just, you know, we, Dan, you know, we don’t want to rock the boat at the end of the day. They’re a bunch of mealy-mouthed, you know, individuals, if you ask me. So anyways, long story short. What’s changed is you can now and for everybody listening, what churches are not up until now, what they’ve not been allowed to do is endorse, quote unquote, any specific candidate. They can talk about all the issues. They can talk about propositions, even take sides on propositions. They can talk about the homeless. They can talk about cities. But they can’t say that, you know, we want Dan from Blackhawk, you know, to be mayor of Denver. They couldn’t, you know, supposedly they were not allowed to say that, although no church has ever been prosecuted for doing so.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right, and that was the Johnson Amendment, which I don’t remember exactly the history. I can’t remember. Did Johnson lose an election, or was he a senator or something? And he put that gag order in because he lost. I can’t remember what he lost. But he didn’t like it because the church pastors were campaigning against him, I guess. Basically, yeah. Basically saying that, no, you can’t. You know, so he put that gag order in place, which if pastors really understood, that’s a violation of the First Amendment, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. That’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 18 :
Just because they have a pulpit and they have a platform, well, no, wait a minute. Don’t political candidates have a platform and a podium that they can go and talk about?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Dan, if I may take it a step further, what about all the people who hate churches? Gee, they get to speak free. right they get to speak freely what about what about every all these college professors who despise christianity they get to speak freely in fact they’re doing it with our tax dollars which really angers me it’s the opposite of the other yeah they shouldn’t have the right to speak freely and yet they get to with our tax dollars the church is doing it with their own parishioners freely given money they should have freedom of speech go ahead and and
SPEAKER 18 :
So this is, I mean, we’re a year away from the midterms, right, basically. So I don’t know if there’s a way to try to organize the pastors in Colorado or something and say, hey, guys, we can have an impact on what’s being voted for. Like I said, I think I’ve said previously, so many of us are so staunch on one issue only, that we end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater, basically. You know, we’ve got people that are against abortion. Okay, I understand that’s a good thing, but we are so adamant on it that we lose seats, and what do we end up doing? We’re in a state that is one of the most progressive on abortion. And it’s like, so you’ve got to be able to…
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, and Dan, really quick, you may have a great point. This is something that I struggle with with our side, and I’ve talked about this publicly, so has Andy, but I’ll say it again right now. You know, we want this stance of, which, by the way, I am, I believe that conception, you know, starts in the womb, and from that point forward, it’s not very long, by the way, until that baby actually starts to form in the womb, hands, feet, eyes, nose. I mean, you really can start to see a baby in its development at a very, very early age, inside them so i am one that believes that you know it’s just wrong to kill that baby you know all across the board that that’s that’s me eight weeks 10 weeks 12 weeks i don’t care to me that’s just the way it works but dan i am willing to be able to get some folks from especially the independent middle you know that that non-affiliated voter i’m willing to have a conversation that says you know dan you know you’re the affiliated voter you know hey Dan, you know, I know that, you know, you’re all for abortion and women’s rights and it’s a health care issue and so on. And that’s what you believe, which, by the way, I honor your beliefs and I get that. But do you really feel like it’s OK to take a baby that, by the way, in a lot of cases can be delivered at, you know, six months, by the way, and easily survive? I’ve got plenty of examples whereby babies are born at six months. So right before that last trimester, they’re able to be born. They’re they’re viable babies. You know, human being at that point in time, they can be delivered. They can be, quote unquote, saved. And by the way, we do that on a consistent basis. So, Dan, could I at least get you to agree with me that we should at least stop late term abortions? In other words, Dan, how do we chip away at this and can we get a starting point there? Now, I know all of the other Republicans that are out there that are hardcore on the right are going to say, so, John, you’re telling me that you believe in abortions all the way up until that? No, no, no. That’s not what I said. What I said was, can we start chipping away and get to the point where they’re not existent at all by doing what the left has done with gun control and abortion and everything else, Dan? Could we actually start there is my question.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes. And that’s I mean, so we’re so staunch on I’m like and look, I’m with you. To me, life begins at conception. And but we we. we’re so adamant on that that we’ve lost so much. It’s all or nothing for us, Dan. Yeah, and that’s… So we’re basically… Abortion, we’re one of the most liberal states with abortion. And what did we win at the end of the day? We didn’t. We’re having babies aborted at almost nine months in this state.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, in our case, Dan, all the way up to delivery.
SPEAKER 07 :
In debate, we call this establishing a beachhead, which, of course, is a military term. When you’re going to storm the beach, you’ve got to first establish one spot on the beach that is yours. Then you can fight from that spot. Now you’ve got entry. And when you do this, if you get them to first— Admit, okay, at six months, come on, look at these pictures. This is a fully formed baby that is simply growing larger.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, in the womb.
SPEAKER 07 :
This baby, if it is born prematurely, can live.
SPEAKER 03 :
We’ll save it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. It happens all the time.
SPEAKER 03 :
It happens daily.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. If you get them to the point where they agree with that, guess what? They now become far more open to five months, four months, three months. But if you demand all the way right from the start, you demand that you hit a Hail Mary rather than get a few first downs, you’re never going to convince them.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, again, Dan, we have this and it’s on it’s on a lot of issues. This is my my beef with our party, especially here in Colorado, is we have this all or nothing ideal, if you would, or mentality that to your point, Dan, at the end of the day, has done nothing in Colorado other than make us a state whereby you get an abortion all the way up to the day of delivery. tax-funded yeah and that’s and that’s just one issue that’s just one that’s one issue thank you that’s exactly right that’s one issue i mean i mean let’s take this one step further dan i mean we and and i talk about this a lot it’s a big deal for the hardcore right in this state the whole primary voting end of things and letting independents or even democrats vote in a republican primary it’s a big deal and i get it it is a big deal we never should have well We didn’t allow it, by the way. This is something I think that the left, or not the left, our far right continues to forget. It wasn’t the far right or even the far left that made that happen because the left doesn’t want it either. The reality is it was those middle-of-the-road, unaffiliated, independent voters that voted because it was on the ballot. that voted for that open primary. And yes, I know there was a lot of people behind that open primary, and a lot of folks out there would tell you that it’s everybody that’s involved from the right and the left and so on. But the reality, Dan, is at the end of the day, it passed. It was the will of the people that made it pass. And no, buddy out there, please don’t come at me and say, well, if it wasn’t for all the election fraud, that has nothing to do with it.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely nothing. And that was election fraud. Folks, half the voters in Colorado are unaffiliated.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Half.
SPEAKER 03 :
And they want to be involved.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that group, that half, voted overwhelmingly in favor of wanting open primaries. So when you throw them out… You’re sending that message to the half of the voters that you need to win.
SPEAKER 03 :
Point being, Dan, that’s another issue where it’s all or nothing. We have so many of these, to your point, and I’m glad you’re bringing this up. We have so many of these all or nothing issues that it’s why we never win. Because we can’t find a pure enough candidate. We can’t find somebody with the right Liberty score that does everything we want them to do. And on and on and on we go, Dan. We’re looking for purity, and it doesn’t exist.
SPEAKER 07 :
We established no beachheads, and yet we want to take the continent. Yep. Can’t happen.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, this is the thing. Okay, so if half the voters voted for open primaries. Over half. Okay, then, right, over half. So anyways, that’s the environment we’re working in. So learn how to work in that environment, for crying out loud.
SPEAKER 03 :
But Dan, here’s the problem, and you know how to do this, because you work with people, you work with folks on tax returns and all of that, and you understand the retail environment and what you have to work inside of. The problem, Dan, is the majority of, and I’m going to say this because this is the truth, the majority of the people… that I am talking about, have never written a payroll check in their entire life. They don’t have to know what a market is like. They’ve never had to go out and work inside of the market. They have no idea how this even functions. Therefore, they’re ignorant of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
They only know what their emotions want, not what the market wants.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 18 :
They’ve never had to do it, Dan. And I’ll say this. A lot of them are probably being told what to think because they can’t think for themselves.
SPEAKER 03 :
You are right about that as well, 100%, Dan. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, because you get one person, you call them the Davidians. So we had a leader, whatever his name was.
SPEAKER 03 :
Dave Williams.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, Dave Williams. A lot of them followed David. lock, stock, and barrel with him, and they didn’t think for themselves.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that’s because, Dan, in a lot of ways, he fed, and he knew this. Dave’s not stupid, by the way. He’s a very intelligent individual, a very con artist kind of an individual, if you ask me. He knew exactly the crowd that he was playing to, what he could get out of them by singing the praises that they wanted to hear, and he played right into their hands, absolutely. or they played right into his hands. Honestly, both ways.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. So it’s like an echo chamber, like the liberal left.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s exactly right. They were both singing each other’s praises, and he knew it. By the way, at the end of the day, they were played by him, not the other way around probably, but he knew exactly what he was going to get at the end of the day. And in his case, and I said this all along, he played them so well, he now has a seat inside of the Trump administration by doing so.
SPEAKER 18 :
minor one but yeah let’s go back but that’s what he wanted let’s go back to the let’s go back to the abortion thing real quick there was i read a news article i don’t know it was a month ago or so that they celebrated um these this baby was born at like 21 weeks or yeah that’s right it was 21 weeks a year ago and they they said the chance of survival is really really low well The baby celebrated its first birthday this year. It’s a little bit behind in development, but 21 weeks they were able to have a baby that was born prematurely. It survived. And how many abortions occur at 21 weeks? And that’s, you know, that’s an argument that we can have. It’s like, you know, not that we want to have an argument, but it’s like, look, if they can have a baby survive at 21 weeks and we’re aborting them, What does that tell you right there?
SPEAKER 07 :
Dan, my brother was a preemie, and he was very, very early and very small. I guess some people would have said he should have died. And he’s alive today. He’s seven years older than me. By the way, he’s pro-choice. That I don’t understand.
SPEAKER 03 :
I have an employee that works for me, Dan, that had a premature baby about the same age that you’re referring to. In fact, I just texted the boys to find out exactly how old he was. It’s a he, how old he was when he was born. And he was, hang on, I’m getting the answer as we speak, 23 to 24 weeks old, Dan. So not much off of what you were just talking about.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he’s alive today, doing well.
SPEAKER 18 :
I’m going to go through it, Dad.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, that’s great, Dan. Great stuff. Thanks, by the way. I appreciate that very much. And, yeah, we have in our own family, I guess you could say, Andy, we have a living example of the very things that we are talking about. And he is doing, you know, still has a few issues. They’re still working through some things and so on. But he has done just fine and was born at about week 23.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, let me ask you this. Is he any less precious than you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, absolutely not. Probably more than I am, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
This isn’t rage radio. This is real, relatable radio. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, John, really quick here on Dave Williams and Open Primaries. I want to remind people, first of all, You and I don’t like open primaries. We both believe that, in principle, only Republicans should choose Republican candidates. Right? Correct. But it is equally true that in the last election, in 2024, here in Colorado, open primaries rescued the party here in Colorado. Had we gone with the party’s wishes, okay, and with the candidates that they wanted, we would have lost… The House of Representatives. Open primaries gave us the candidates like Gabe Evans, okay? Gave us three candidates that the party openly opposed, okay? But the open primaries overwhelmed them and gave us three winning Republican candidates in, I believe, what was it, three, five, and eight? And we would not have had those if it weren’t for open primaries. All right. So people have to understand this idea that open primaries are the big boogeyman. What and what Dave Williams and crowd will say is they’ll say ever since open primaries came along, we can’t win. That’s when the losses.
SPEAKER 03 :
We couldn’t win prior to that.
SPEAKER 07 :
The trend line. OK, the trend line for Republicans going down in Colorado has remained consistent and it’s been worse and worse. Why? And it’s all been because of Republicans.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, no, no, Andy. It’s not because of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s a million plus blue state voters moving in.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we run candidates that are totally opposing their belief system in regards to even that middle-of-the-road voter that might compromise on a few things. We run candidates that are totally opposed to what they believe life should be. And like it or not, that’s where we’re at. Right. Sorry, folks. That’s it. You have to change their hearts and minds prior to getting them to vote. But if you can’t even get in and have a seat at the table and even be able to do that, how do you make any headway, Andy?
SPEAKER 07 :
You don’t. And meanwhile, you get all these people wound up believing that it’s open primaries because they are rightfully angry that non-Republicans are helping choose our candidates. I’m with you on that. I understand. But what Dave Williams comes in and does is capitalizes on their anger and convinces them, if we fix this, we can turn around this state. No, you won’t. Had you fixed this, we would have lost the House of Representatives for Donald Trump. Right. Okay. Dude. Had we gone your way, we would have lost everything. This guy, he comes in, he plays on their rage, and that’s where he gets his political power. It’s a terrible thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and it doesn’t work, didn’t work this last go-around. It’s not going to work moving forward. We still have a ton of work in front of us. We’ll continue to talk about that on a weekly basis, as we have been doing. We’ll continue to do that on an ongoing basis. Next hour, Will Hild is going to be joining us. He is Executive Director of Consumer Research, and we’re going to talk about… Believe it or not, Dish Network. So we’ll be back in a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
The Rich Guy.
