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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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indeed let’s have a conversation and welcome to the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you’re each treasured you’re valued you have purpose today’s drive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy wednesday producer joe
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Happy Wednesday, Kim.
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And be sure to check out our website. That’s kimmonson.com. As you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. My friends, it’s never compassionate. nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, their freedom, their livelihoods, opportunity, childhoods, lives via force. Force obviously can be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, and this agenda by the World Economic Forum and globalist elites playing out through the United Nations. this Colorado state legislature, this Colorado governor, and they’re using land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, transmission lines easements. We’re going to talk a little bit about that. I just had a headline that came in here that’s got my blood pressure going. And remember, if something’s a good idea, You shouldn’t have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, not the personalities. We try to stay out of the eighth grade girl fighting that happens with guys and girls in politics. We want to focus on the issues. We will mention the people. that are pushing these issues though so that you can connect those particular dots all this happens we are an independent voice on an independent station and it happens because of all of your support and all of our sponsors and i wanted to say thank you to laramie energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable affordable abundant and efficient power from oil natural gas and coal that powers our lives fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. I’m pleased to have in studio with me, Joe DiBiasio. It’s great to have you here. And you’ve got quite a resume, Joe. You are Vice President of Whispering Pines Metropolitan District, Keensburg Doge Committee member. I love that. Secretary of Gabe Evans CD8 Energy Committee, a veteran of the United States Air Force, an entrepreneur, and a former defense contractor supporting the intelligence community. We’re going to talk about surveillance in the third and fourth segment. So thanks for being here.
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Yeah, thank you for having me.
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Yeah, it’s going to be an interesting conversation.
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Yeah, I look forward to it.
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So let’s see, first thing, our word of the day is arduous. And it could be spelled A-R-D-U-O-U-S. Your challenge will be to use this in a sentence today. And it could be demanding great effort or labor, difficult. Or it could be testing severely the powers of endurance, strenuous. Or it could be hard to traverse, climb, or surmount. And we’ve got a very arduous battle here, as again, I’m alluding to a headline that just got sent over to me. And we have an arduous battle to protect the private property rights of the people in Elbert County and El Paso County as Xcel Energy wants to take their land via eminent domain, if they don’t sell, to put in transmission lines that do not benefit them. And we just saw something that the Colorado – a number of the Colorado mayors said that they are in favor of expanding the electric capacity for Xcel Energy because of the long-term and long-range impacts it has on the state, said Heidi Williams, the executive director of the Metro Mayors Caucus and the former mayor of Thornton. I have to agree. We certainly, Joe, need to make sure that we – are addressing our power needs but i can see they’re going to be trying to connect this to taking the land of the people out on the eastern plains i’m adamantly opposed against that opposed to that uh joe de biazio yeah no i mean we we need energy but uh you know taking people’s land to to deliver it wherever you want to put it is that’s not the right action Well, it’s not. And here in Colorado, what we’ve seen is public policy that has really been, in a way, again, an assault upon property rights. And that is of our oil, natural gas, coal producers. We’ve seen public policy that is trying to basically shut that business down. And that business provides reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy, which we’re hearing for all these AI centers. They want something that is reliable.
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Yeah.
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And I think we as people do as well. But we’ve seen public policy try to shut down a good power source and then try to take people’s land regarding an intermittent power source. It doesn’t make sense.
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Yeah, you can’t just cliff edge technology. It needs to be integrated.
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Yeah, most definitely. So we’ll continue this little discussion on this in just a minute. Our quote of the day, and I sent this over to Commissioner Sean Pond, who was on earlier this week, Montrose County Commissioner, and Joshua Lowenstein, who is the executive director of Our American Lands. And What Sean Pond has figured out, and I was connecting this dot also from when I was on city council, 2012 to 2016, is that boards and commissions have a tremendous, and NGOs, non-governmental organizations, have a tremendous amount of power regarding public policy. But Joe DiBiasio, they’re unelected and they’re unaccountable. And that’s a big problem.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you, you know, you, you just bring in these 501 C threes or 501 C fours. And, um, you know, obviously I’m, I chair a 501 C four Coloradans for energy, but, um, you know, I’m not out there trying to collect money for myself. What we’re trying to do is we’re trying to spread the word and, um, get involved and try to help, um, build energy resources for Colorado. We’re not, I’m not looking at, you know, eminent domain or anything like that, but, uh, you know, as data center technology, has greater power demand, we do need more energy. It’s just a fact of life. And with AIML emerging as a technology, we’re going to see more demand as well. But what we don’t want to see is Excel popping in and saying, you know what, we want to take your land. And if you’re not going to sell it to us, we’re just going to steal it.
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That is a real problem.
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Correct.
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And that’s one of those things, Joe, that gets my blood pressure up is when – I call them PBIs. Politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties start to collude together to take away people’s property rights. And so it gets me going. So anyway, I had had talk with Sean Pond on Monday regarding, he had connected these dots as well about the enormous amount of power that these PBIs have and all these committees or these commissions and boards. And so I found this quote from G.K. Chesterton, which I thought was fascinating. I sent it over to Josh and to Sean and they said, yeah, agreed. And At the Colorado Union of Taxpayers board meeting on Monday night, some of the members had heard the show earlier in the day, and they said that Sean Pond, he’s not a politician. He said it just all happened. And one of the guys said, well, he’s the accidental commissioner. So G.K. Chesterton, he was born in 1874. He died in 1936. He was an English author, philosopher, Christian apologist, journalist and magazine editor, and literary and art critic. He created the fictional priest detective Father Brown and wrote on apologetics, such as his works of Orthodoxy and The Everlasting Man, which… I found that on my shelf, and I decided to start to read that last night. Chesterton routinely referred to himself as an Orthodox Christian and came to identify this position more and more with Catholic, being Catholic, and eventually converted from high church Anglican, and biographers have identified him as a successor to many of the Victorian authors. But he said this, Joe DiBiasio, and I think you’re gonna love this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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“‘I’ve searched all the parks and all the cities,’ and found no statues of committees.
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I feel that. We get to operate in the background.
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Okay, so with that, I want to unpack this again. We’ve got to connect these dots here. And I’m very familiar with the Metro Mayor’s Caucus. And it… It really has become a committee where they come together and can be very vocal and try to be very influential. But they actually, instead of trying to represent the metro area, they need to be representing the people of their communities and protecting their private property rights as well. They may be in favor right now, Joe DiBiasio, of connecting this dot to Albert County and El Paso County. But the problem with PBIs is if they start to take somebody else’s property rights, someday they’re going to be knocking on your door.
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Yeah, that’s right. That’s tyranny.
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It is tyranny. And that’s why we have got to stand up against that. So let’s see here. Let’s see. It says Xcel Energy, this is from CBS News, filed a proposal for approval with the Colorado Public Utilities Commission, there’s the word, in October of 2024. But interest in the topic is quickly garnering attention. Following a report on opposition to the plan, dozens of community and business leaders have gathered in support of it. 38 mayors representing over half the state’s population are really in favor of expanding the electric capacity for Xcel Energy because, as I mentioned, the long-term and long-range impacts it has on the state. Agree.
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Yeah.
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Good idea.
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We need energy.
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We need to be planning.
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Correct.
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It says the caucus sent a letter to the Public Utilities Commission strongly urging them to approve Excel’s capacity increase request. Now, the devil’s in the details. What is that exactly?
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Yeah, you know, you got me there. I have no idea. I don’t either. They just kind of make decisions and You know, these things aren’t – I don’t think they’re really that well planned. I don’t think they’re discussed. I think they just say, okay, this is the fastest and quickest way to do X, Y, and Z. And they say, and if anybody gets in our way, we’re just going to – That’s exactly what’s happening.
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We’ll just take them out of the game. That’s – and again, Joe, America was founded on this idea of property rights. And in the Declaration with Jefferson where he said that we are endowed by – by the Creator with these inalienable rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. I think I’ve talked to some people, they say yes, some people say no. But they really, I think instead of pursuit of happiness, they had the word property. They really kicked around the idea of property, people owning property, being able to keep most of the fruits of their labor. But the conundrum was, at the time, There was slavery. Yeah. And how does the Declaration match up with slavery? And so they started to address slavery. Slavery was prevalent throughout the world at the time. But they had to be careful with their words. But property rights are inherent in the American idea.
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Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, it’s funny, too, because when we talk about committees, the whole point of a committee is to solve problems. Why would a committee say, oh, you know what, we’ll just eminent domain somebody’s land? That’s not solving a problem. That’s creating a whole new problem.
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Great. Thanks for having me.
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And another person that’s all over surveillance is Mike Rolick. He’s a citizen activist. And we’ve got interesting stuff to talk about. But welcome, Mike Rolick.
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Hi, good morning. Good morning, Joe. Nice to meet you. Good morning. Pleasure. Kim, how are you?
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I am well. And so you are busy. There is a meeting coming up in Arvada, and we’re running the spots for your coalition with Ralston Valley. But bring us up to speed on that. And then there’s a really ick thing that you have uncovered, Mike, as I have looked at that. So where do you want to start?
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Yeah, sure. We can start right with the ick thing. It’s called alkaline hydrolysis. It’s an alternative, quote-unquote, to cremation. It is legal in the state. I looked a little further into it. In 2011, the state removed the application of intense heat portion to the definition of… of cremation. So it kind of opened the doorway there. You know, look further back, alkaline hydrolysis started in 1888, but it was more about some research applications and some animal carcass disposition. And I guess in the mid-90s, they were studying it for mad cow disease, destroying the prions. And then somewhere in the mid-2000s, it kind of crossed over into the disposition of human remains. So obviously, With any technology, we always worry about mission creep. And then all of a sudden, you know, it could be something really good for research. It could be something good to destroy prions. Prions are very difficult to destroy, obviously. And then all of a sudden, now it’s this normal technique. I think it’s legal in about 24 states now.
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The interesting thing… Quick question, Mike, a couple of things. You said it started in 1888. Did you mean 1988?
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No, really, 1888. It’s over 100 years old, but the scope is very limited. I don’t think anyone would have thought of doing this for human remains back then. Only in the mid-2000s did it really start coming into vogue for the disposition of human remains.
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And you said you used the word cryons. What does that word mean?
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Prion, in general, is just a misfolded protein. Mad cow disease would be a prion disease. I’m not a doctor, but proteins can misfold, and then they can become plaques or amyloids as well, and they can get into your brain. So you’ve got issues there, and prions are very difficult to destroy. That’s why they say you can’t cook out mad cow disease out of a cow that might have been infected, right? So the benefits of an alkaline hydrolysis process could be cleaning up things like fronds in a situation where there’s an outbreak. So it could be very useful in certain ways. But where the fluid goes is kind of the real big X factor, as it were, for a lot of people. It can go right into the wastewater system.
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That doesn’t seem like a very good idea to me because when I was on city council, I had taken a tour of the Parker Water and Sanitation District, and basically they are recycling the water that goes down your toity and getting it to drinking water. You don’t really like to think about it that much. I love the creativity, but the fact that I might be drinking water that Aunt Mary had been put into. I have a little problem with that, Mike Rolick.
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You know, I can understand that. I did do a deep dive into Denver wastewater. As of right now, it’s not recycled, but drinking water in Denver, you know, city by city could be different. But they are working on an edible crops pilot project, and they’re working with the Colorado Water Conservation Board, Denver Water, and CU Denver College and School of Mines. And they’re actually working on seeing if they can grow crops such as carrots, kale, and tomatoes to see if the PFAS and select pharmaceuticals are uptaken through the roots. But they’re using recycled water. So, you know, unfortunately… A few years ago, there was a whole lot of these fact-checked articles that start with no all the time. You know, no, you’re not doing this. No, it’s not doing that. So they were saying, no, you’re not using recycled water for crops. You’re not eating the remains of dead people, so to speak. But unfortunately, again, with Mission Creep, you’re looking at this edible crops pilot project, and it’s a legit project, and they’re working on seeing what is – taken up via the routes, and they’re using wastewater. Wastewater is also used at Denver Zoo, some parks, some golf courses, things like that. And they’re looking at changing Rule 84 on the Water Quality Control Division side to allow for wastewater to be used for snowmaking on ski slopes. So next question, Mike.
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Well, I was talking with someone about this, and she’s an engineer, and she had all these questions. If you are releasing this alkaline into the wastewater, to have the right pH of wastewater and to treat it is a real science. And so if you’re going to be then putting this – you know, this alkaline cremation into the wastewater, that’s going to change the composition of that. She said that needs to be a real problem, and do they have a license to do so? What’s her questions?
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And that’s a great question. You know, when trying to research the pH side of it, yes, they use a high pH. They use some kind of lye and some other chemicals. But I would suppose on a one-off, I think there’s one business in Nevada that does this right now because it’s allowed, but the definition would be changing to make it a little more easy to be allowed, so to speak. But, I mean, if you’re doing this once a day for one body versus all the wastewater, I don’t know if it’s noticed, but what if this becomes a real big alternative towards a cremation or towards a natural burial? Yeah, you know, pH could be a big deal as well. And my question is the pharmaceuticals as well. Any PFAS and other microplastics a human picks up over time and everything else that we kind of unfortunately pick up through this slightly toxic life that we all seem to lead. And where does that all go? Again, into our wastewater you use in certain situations. Yeah.
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Okay. This is interesting. Joe DiBiasio, what’s your thoughts? I know I just kind of threw this out at you.
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I’m sitting here just thinking to myself, I’m like, nobody likes to think about what happens after we die. And I just can’t imagine somebody, you know, increasing the pH around my body and dumping me in the sewer if that’s the case, you know?
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ultimately, yeah, that’s the bottom line of what’s happening. Mike, on this, uh, there’s some other issues that you are, are, uh, working on. And in fact, we’re running a spot on that. August 19th is a big day for some other things that are happening in Arvada as well. So wrap this up and then let us know what else you’re concerned about.
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Yeah. You know, um, in the more kind of a local situation, parks and open space on land, I think, uh, We could all agree if land is set aside for a park or for open space, it should kind of remain as such. They’re looking at expanding the use by rights to include public hospitals, community centers, cultural institutions, some government facilities, and public schools and public utilities. There are some Some uses already allowed where they have a charting, but the vast majority of those uses are not allowed right now on parks and open space zone land. And our contention is that should remain such. Parks and open space zone land, it could be land that’s earmarked, could have been donated by a family, you know, that says we want to keep this farm, you know, some kind of natural forever. It could have been something that people worked really hard on to get some trail easements dedicated, you know, from spot to spot. And then to say, you know, let’s go ahead and put a hospital here It would be a public hospital, but it would be a use by right because it would be part of your zoning. You’re looking at 20 to 40 acres. You’re looking at thousands of trips per day. And just kind of that violation of that understanding of what the government wanted to do with this land and what the people agreed to. And then it kind of feels like kind of a backdoor land banking where you’re like, well, you know, we got this land as a donation or as a bargain sale kind of thing. And people took a you know, a tax credit at the federal level because it became open space. And all of a sudden, we’re going to stick a public hospital or some other cultural institution there, drive traffic that way, and then just kind of violate the whole premise of why that land was preserved in the first place. Just seems like a very sneaky land banking.
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Okay.
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That’s a weird one. And then the psilocybin mushroom, obviously psilocybin is legal here, but a city is allowed to regulate the time, the place, and the manner. And we looked into Parker’s regulations on that. It looks like Parker’s done a really good job giving some extra protections to citizens, including some extra setbacks and residences, and then managing screening, things like that, and also the Some of the toxic substances and hazmat that would be normally used in situations like this are banned down in Parker. So we’re urging people to take a look at what Parker’s done. Castle Rock has picked up on that. And then look into the cities that are not doing this and hopefully urge them to follow Parker’s lead.
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Okay. And people can get more information about all that you are doing at Ralston Valley Coalition, correct? That’s RalstonValleyCoalition.org. Correct.
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Correct.
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Okay. And you’ve got information there about this meeting on August 19th. And as you said, when the bulldozers show up, it’s too late. And that’s why local government is so important. I think sometimes it gets complicated because there’s all these different boards and commissions and things that are doing things. But it is important, the work that you’re doing, Mike Rolick. How would you like to wrap this up?
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Well, I’d like to wrap it up in the sense that when we had the issue with the Amazon proposal there, it was very easy to get people there. However, what we’ve seen when we have big projects that aren’t popular and then we might be successful, people then tend to go back to their normal lives. And then we find that regulations start changing beneath the surface to accommodate the next unpopular project that potentially. So when it’s really boring and when nothing really seems like it’s going on, that’s the time it feels like true change is made at any level, city, state or what have you. So we’re urging people to remain engaged the whole time and not just when the big project arises, because when the rules change, you might not have a leg to stand on the next time you’re upset.
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Well, and the other thing, Mike, that I learned again when I was on city council, is by the time something gets in front of city council, most everything has already been decided. And one of the really important meetings are those study sessions. Those are things to really pay attention to because that’s the spot where you can start to get ahead of much of this, Mike Rolick.
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That’s correct.
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Okay. And, again, that website is RalstonValleyCoalition.org. And Mike’s going to be updating us on a regular basis on the show because he is so active on what’s going on. So, Mike Rolick, have a great day.
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Thanks, Kim. Have a good day. Bye, Joe. Hey, have a good one.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are going to be celebrating their 48th anniversary of the official Marine Memorial that is located right here in the metro area at 6th and Colfax in Golden. And there’s going to be a great event on the 23rd. I’m going to be out there. Dave Bray, who is a former Marine. Wait, you’re never a former Marine. You’re always a Marine. So he’s just not active duty right now. He’s going to be performing. It’s going to be a great evening. We’d love to have you join us. You can buy your tickets by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. In studio with me is Joe DiBiasio. and he’s he’s a busy guy he’s the vice president of whispering pines metropolitan district uh keensburg doge committee member secretary of gabe evans cd8 energy committee a veteran of the united states air force and a entrepreneur and a defense contractor or former defense contractor supporting the intelligence community which that’s the thing we’re going to talk about today joe de biazio yeah that’s right yeah we’re going to talk about the surveillance state And an example is these flock cameras. I’ve had several listeners that have reached out to me, and a number of different jurisdictions are having these flock cameras put into communities.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 20 :
under the guise of helping to keep the community safe, and from criminals maybe finding stolen cars, and people go, oh, okay, that’s a good idea. I kind of went down that road with the Patriot Act. I remember as that was being presented, and I wasn’t very active in politics at that time, but I thought, huh, I don’t know that I think that that’s the greatest idea, but okay, if you want to keep us safe, well, you saw what that morphed into.
SPEAKER 06 :
We’re going to unpack this. Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
And so these flock cameras are being put in different jurisdictions and they’re reading license plates. They know where you are basically all the time. And I’m a little uncomfortable with that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And it goes a lot deeper than that. So my first interaction with flock was at a board meeting. They came in, they did a presentation in our district. They said, hey, we want to put up these cameras or $6,000 a year a piece. And we would have to have five. So right off the rip, I’m already a little bit weary because we’d have to pay $30,000 a year for, for what? For, yeah. So for somebody to take pictures of license plates. So I started asking the guy some questions. Um, I’ve not beaten him up too hard at this point. But he comes at me, and he’s just like, listen, these prevent crime. They prevent porch pirates. I’m like, porch pirates? That’s $30,000 a year to prevent somebody from coming into our district and stealing an Amazon package? I don’t know about this. So I started asking him some questions, and I asked him about audit. Audit is probably the thing that I care about the most, coming from the background that I come from. So I care about understanding… as a citizen, how I can audit what their capabilities are or audit what they’re doing with the data. And they assure me that, well, we discard the data after 30 days. And I thought that was an interesting thing to say, discard, not delete. And it dawned on me, I’m like, this is a geospatial capability.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, now what is that for regular people like us? What does that mean?
SPEAKER 06 :
Geospatial intelligence is imagery, right? It’s an imagery capability. So, you know, it’s geospatial, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I asked him, I said, well, where are you storing all this data? He’s like, oh, on GovCloud AWS. It’s like GovCloud AWS. And I’m familiar with that because during my time with my background, I recall GovCloud AWS being a capability that the NSA signed a contract with.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, and this is from your experience of being a defense contractor and surveillance, right? So you know what you’re talking about.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so I hear GovCloud AWS and my ears perked up. I’m like, well, wait, wait, wait, wait. I was like, the NSA signed a $10 billion contract with Amazon. And the only reason I knew about that one is because, you know, Microsoft Azure, they had protested. And it went to the government accountability office. So it became public information at that point. So, okay, well, right off the rip, I’m suspicious. So I asked him the question. I’m like, well, are you sharing this information with the federal government? And he said no. He told me no during that board meeting to my face. I was like, are you sure about that? Yeah. He got me a little bit gassed up. But as he’s explaining this, I’m like, oh, my God, this is starting to sound more and more like geospatial intelligence and collections. So I did a little bit of research after the board meeting, come to find out that the information is, in fact, shared with the federal government. It’s stored on a compartment under GovCloud AWS called CJIS, Criminal Justice Information System. My understanding is that that system is actually owned by the FBI. Okay. So obviously it’s federal. You have no ability as a citizen to audit their data. You just have to trust that they’re discarding the data as they see fit. And I thought that was interesting because the word discard is something that you would find in Executive Order 12333, which is the oversight for how the intelligence community collects and retains data.
SPEAKER 20 :
So that executive order, is that a Trump order?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it’s been around for a very long time. I’m familiar with it from, you know, SIGINT handling procedures. SIGINT is signals intelligence. So that was more of what I was. I was all over the place, really. I was more of a calm guy than anything. Okay. Yeah, that’s kind of the background there.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
You know, I want to back up and ask a question. How did… this presentation by flock the representative from flock cameras get in front of you so they they reached out right they’re out there selling their that’s right selling their product so they must have reached out to somebody on the board said hey we’d like to make a presentation right yeah i think they reached out to um to the management company and then the management company brings it to the board we allow them to do a presentation
SPEAKER 06 :
And, you know, if you’re just a regular guy on a board, it sounds really good. And they show you all of their capabilities. They show you all the different locations where their cameras are at. Look at how safe we’re keeping things. That was another red flag for me, too. I’m like, Denver’s not getting more safe.
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Colorado is number one in the country for car thefts.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, right? So if it’s a license plate reader, how come they aren’t catching all these people stealing cars? And they’re like, oh, well, most people stealing cars, when they drive into the district, they don’t have license plates on their cars. But dig into flock safety one layer deeper, and you’ll find that GON capabilities will allow you to identify a vehicle with other distinguishing characteristics. It’s not just a license plate. It could be a scratch on the car. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, and they also have SIGINT capabilities built in, too, so they can identify gunshots, and there’s a few other of those types of capabilities built into that system. So it’s more than just geospatial intelligence. It’s multi-intelligence. So it’s an infusion, and that’s really how you are being surveilled.
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Joe DiBiasio, what do you think everyday busy people we see driving along here, why should they be concerned?
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s interesting because you could derive information from data different ways. You know, when you drive by a flock camera and they capture your photo, it’s that’s that’s a transaction that just happened so when we look at the executive order say okay well let’s say they have 30 days to use that information okay but well what does that mean because you’re driving by 20 30 of these things a day right so you’re always on record driving around but if you have a normal behavior and you’re driving you know down parker road for example um you know, how many flock cameras do you pass? Well, what happens when one day you don’t pass that camera and something happens over here? Are you now a suspect? Do you understand what I’m saying? So it’s not always, the data’s not always used in a way to positively identify you. I’m sorry, I’m bumping the mic over here. It’s not always used to positively identify you, but sometimes it’s used to identify you in a way where you weren’t at that place where you’d normally be, so something is off with your behavior. So we can start to look at things from that perspective. Yeah. So you, yeah. And this is what people do is they, they sit around and they, they think of different ways to, to derive the information and to, to build, you know, you get the raw data. It goes into the, it goes into the wheelhouse and then you, you, you turn it through the things you want to look at and then it creates a deliverable, creates a product.
SPEAKER 20 :
So Joe DiBiasio, these AI centers that is supposed to be the great new thing and that they use an enormous amount of power and they have to have reliable power to run. And I’m thinking, why do we need these big data centers if it’s just going to help me write a better email? Well, it’s not about writing a better email, is it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, data centers can do a lot of different things, right? So you could do web hosting, but there’s also database storage. So there’s a lot of other techniques and a lot of other technology that’s in a data center. It’s not just we have the horsepower to do X, Y, and Z. If anybody’s familiar with Amazon AWS, it’s really – Amazon AWS is a – I mean, it was groundbreaking. Netflix, at one point, had moved their entire infrastructure into the cloud, which was Amazon AWS. So these are cloud-based technologies, and really what you’re looking at is Amazon just owns that infrastructure, and they rent it out to you for little bits of cash. So it’s a really wonderful technology, but it can be interesting when you look at it from, okay, how is Amazon playing with the government now?
SPEAKER 08 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right? And they do. And that’s what GovCloud AWS is. GovCloud AWS is that. It’s sensitive but unclassified. It’s their government system. And they basically talk about it like it’s the field of dreams, right? If you build it, they will come. So Amazon made this big investment in GovCloud AWS, and then all the government services were latched on after that. I don’t know. You know, from an entrepreneurial perspective, I… have a hard time, and it’s personal incredulity, but I find it hard to believe that these systems were put in place before the government was signing up.
SPEAKER 20 :
So healthy skepticism, I think, on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, let’s go to break. I’m talking with Joe DiBiasio, and he is a former defense contractor that had worked in support of the intelligence community. So we’re talking about surveillance on us as everyday people, And we drilled it down to these flock cameras because I thought that would be easy to understand. Something very interesting happened in Denver regarding that as well. And we have these discussions because of all of our sponsors. And for Everything Mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Hey, the text line is 720-605-0647. I do want to hear from you. And also wanted to mention the Center for American Values located in Pueblo. It is co-founded by Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix, actions he took during the Vietnam War, and Brad Padula, who is an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker. And they realized that we need to really honor our Medal of Honor recipients and also to instill in our children and ourselves these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So the center is nonpolitical. It’s nonpartisan, but doing great work. And it would be great for you to support them and get down there and visit them. And that website is AmericanValuesCenter.org, AmericanValuesCenter.org. I’m talking with Joe DiBiasio. who has quite a resume. One of the things that he has done was a former defense contractor supporting the intelligence community. And you have been making some presentations about this, Joe, yes?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so my friends at Colorado Springs Liberty on the Rocks reached out to me and said, hey, we’d love to have you out here, give a presentation. I said, hey, what do you want me to talk about? You know, I have a pretty broad background. So they asked me if I could talk about the surveillance state. And I said, you know what, that’s right up my alley. Let’s have a conversation about that. I put together, this is about 42 pages worth of stuff. So I was up there for a while giving a presentation. And it was Karen Gorday had reached out to me after that. And she said, hey, would you be willing to come on Kim’s show and talk about it? Yeah, absolutely. Let’s talk about this. She said it was riveting. I’m glad she had a good time. It’s really a show. We have to talk about these things, but we need to make it entertaining for people too. And they need to understand because swallowing this pill is really hard. It’s really hard.
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So, well, two things on the flock cameras. You and I both saw this headline, which was pretty interesting. And that is in Denver, they decided the city council decided to not renew the contract, which was about six hundred thousand dollars, I think. And then I just saw this. This was yesterday. Groups demand that Denver’s flock license plate cameras be turned off. And the reason is because these groups do not want the surveillance of license plates on people that might be here illegally.
SPEAKER 06 :
Isn’t that funny, though, right? It is. It was funny. I’m like, I may not agree with how you got there, but you got there. Because they know. They know they’re sharing the data with the federal government. And that’s just the bottom line.
SPEAKER 20 :
So that brings up then the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. It says the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated. And then it goes into the warrants. Seems to me like that’s being violated big time.
SPEAKER 06 :
It was funny. The representative from Flock, when he was at our board meeting, and we did argue. And he said, well, you don’t have the right. You don’t have a reasonable expectation of privacy in public. I said, yeah, but I have the reasonable expectation that my government’s not surveilling me. Right. It’s not the same thing. You know, reasonable expectation of privacy is you’re in the park, I’m in the park, you’re taking pictures of your kid, I’m in the background. You know, like, it’s not a bypass. And it’s not a license to go spy on people.
SPEAKER 20 :
Right. And that’s, in essence, what these flock cameras are doing. Hey, somebody texted and said, what does a flock camera look like?
SPEAKER 06 :
So it’s basically a big black pole with a little black camera on it and a solar panel. It’s very inconspicuous.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. And they’re making pretty good money on this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah, yeah. Our price was $6,000 a camera. I don’t know if Denver got a bulk rate or something. I mean, $600,000.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, that’s a lot.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it’s obviously not working. Crime is up in Denver.
SPEAKER 20 :
But that’s the thing. When you’re marching towards tyranny, they talk people into that march by saying it’s to keep you safe. That’s right. And I think Ben Franklin said if you want safety instead of liberty, you’re going to get neither.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that’s right. And it’s interesting, too, because flock is so much more than just a camera. I can go through the capabilities here, but I mean it’s – You know, people know it as a license plate reader, ALPR, but it’s a video camera. It’s a mobile security. They have mobile security trailers. They have gunshot audio detection. Right? I’ll go in here. Sorry, I’m just moving some paper around.
SPEAKER 20 :
Like Rush Limbaugh.
SPEAKER 06 :
Very sensitive mics in here. Yeah. And there’s key technologies, too, such as they’re deploying drones. And they have a software platform that’s integrating AI as well. So they’re in competition with companies like Palantir as well. But their data will also integrate in a Palantir’s platform. So a lot of people don’t know, but this is just one piece of the puzzle. So when you talk about surveillance, you’re just getting bombarded with surveillance every single day. Yeah. They may have to delete or discard the raw data, but they don’t have to discard the metadata. They don’t have to get rid of the fact that you had driven by that camera. They can keep that note.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, so we’ve got about two, three minutes left. The big question, what do we do about this?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, a lot of people ask me that. And I’m not a nihilist by any stretch of the imagination. But I think the best thing we can do is touch grass. You know, just get out of town sometimes and just live your life without thinking about it too much. It’s not the right answer. If you’re involved in government, don’t vote to put these things in. Save money. You save people taxpayer dollars and you also aren’t spying on them. You know, big shout out to Elbert County. They got rid of Flock as well just because there were privacy concerns there. That’s the right answer.
SPEAKER 20 :
That really is the right answer. And Mike Rolick had brought it to our attention that there was legislation that was passed under the guise of watching out for wildfires, that they’re putting cameras. When you say touch grass, they’re going to be watching you out there too.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right. They do want to watch you out there. Oh, it’s for wildfires.
SPEAKER 20 :
How about manage the forests?
SPEAKER 06 :
You think that might be a great idea? Yeah, that’s a good idea.
SPEAKER 20 :
And in fact, I’ll give a quick shout out to Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week, which is right around the corner, middle part of September. And I will be emceeing the main event. And Jonathan Turley will be the speaker. So go ahead and start to think about getting your You can get more information by going to Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week. So that’s going to be great. But my point is, when I drive up to the mountains and I look over and I see all the beetle kill, and I’m thinking one lightning strike, one match. And it goes up in flames. We need to be doing forest management. But instead, they use that as an excuse to surveil us. Your final thought, Joe de Blasio, and you’re going to stay in studio for next hour.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I’ll be here for the next hour. Yeah, we you know, when you just when you live your life, don’t don’t don’t freak out. We are in a state of anarcho tyranny. You know, you just need to protect yourself. That’s really the bottom line. Right now, a lot of these agencies are asking for you to integrate things like your ring cameras and all that stuff. Just stay out of it. That’s the best approach.
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Okay. And there, you hear it from an expert. And our quote, I think you’ll like this one also from G.K. Chesterton. He said, right is right even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong even if everybody is wrong about it. And that’s G.K. Chesterton. So, my friends, today be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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We’re watching you. We talked about surveillance in that first hour with Joe DiBiasio, who’s in studio and quite a resume. He’s the vice president of Whispering Pines Metropolitan District, which is very important. Keensburg Doge committee member, secretary of Gabe Evans CD8 Energy Committee. veteran of the United States Air Force, an entrepreneur, obviously, and a former defense contractor supporting the intelligence community. We talked about these flock cameras. It’s so interesting, Joe, that Denver liked having the flock cameras when they thought they were surveilling everyday hardworking citizens but when they thought oh my gosh we might be surveilling and getting license plates on people that are here illegally and we’re a sanctuary city how does that work out we’re not going to renew the contract isn’t that crazy it is crazy but i’m glad they came to that conclusion it’s exactly i agree with i i agreed with aoc uh alexandria ocasio-cortez uh when she was against giving the corporate welfare to amazon
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
And I thought she’s now it was for different reasons, but it was the right decision.
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Yeah. Yeah. We it’s OK if we disagree as long as we come to the same conclusion. If we can.
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And that conclusion is freedom.
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Yeah, that’s right.
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And so that’s where and well, actually, liberty. My friend Ben Martin says that liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. And we get to have these discussions because of our sponsors. And I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy. for their goal sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, affordable, abundant, and efficient power from oil, natural gas, and coal powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and to be cool in the summer. And, Joe, you may not know this, but I actually – we were talking about how we’re glad this is audio. Because it’s early in the morning, a variety of things. But I actually did do some video work a few years ago. My friend Walt Johnson, who’s a geophysicist, wanted to make a documentary, just an honest conversation, kicking the tires on this narrative of climate. And so that documentary can be seen for free online. It’s called Climate Conversation, and you can see it at climateconversation.com. We did a whole bunch of different podcasts on it as well. But that’s the, and he’s actually, he’s starting to talk about doing a sequel.
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Oh, wow.
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Okay. So what’s the conversation right now?
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Probably, I think one of the first things is the land grab. The land that’s required for these industrial wind and solar projects is significant, and it’s taking land out of production. And the reason that it’s occurring is because of tax credits. Well, tax credits are corporate welfare. Get that out of there. Let the free market figure it out. I’m not against wind, solar, or anything else, but I don’t like the government putting their finger on the lever of this with tax credits and tax incentives and everything. permitting an imminent domain those are things that get my blood pressure going indeed So let’s get over here to our word of the day, which is arduous. It’s spelled A-R-D-U-O-U-S. Could be demanding great effort or labor difficult. Number two, testing severely. The powers of endurance are strenuous. Number three, hard to traverse, climb, or surmount. We’re in a real arduous journey right now for liberty, I think, Joe DiBiasio. But I’m encouraged because more and more people are seeking information and And we had a clarification from Karen Gorday that said, well, you said, she said, for clarification, this is from Karen on the text line. She said, I didn’t say, do you want to be on Kim’s show? I said, I can get your info to provide it to Kim. And then she said, and great segment.
SPEAKER 06 :
So she wanted to clarify. Thank you, Karen. I appreciate the clarification.
SPEAKER 20 :
And then let’s see here. This is from Susan regarding these flock cameras. She said in the UK, young people are spray painting the cameras or smashing them with bats. And I find that pretty interesting, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think I think you hit the nail on the head when we were chatting about that off air, though. There’s probably a camera watching them. Do that. Do that. Yeah. Probably is.
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Yeah. So somebody who’s watching interest rates is Lorne Levy. He is a mortgage specialist, and he can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. And he works with a lot of different companies. And how’d you like that segment, Lorne Levy, from flock cameras to you watching interest rates?
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. I’ve done this great segue into Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages, watching everything regarding interest rates from flock cameras and missed that segue, Lorne Levy. So let’s just do it one more time. Welcome, Lorne Levy.
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Hey, good morning. That was a terrific segue right into the commercial.
SPEAKER 20 :
I know. So let’s just jump into it, Lorne Levy. What’s the latest regarding the Fed, interest rates? What’s your ear to the ground say?
SPEAKER 17 :
So, you know, we’re always watching data, as we say. That’s what the Fed says they’re doing. And yesterday we got the Consumer Price Index, which was a little bit, it was like 0.1 across the board, a little warmer than anticipated. So, you know, as I tell you all the time, we watch that 10-year U.S. trade. which about a week ago was down to about 420. It spiked to about 431 yesterday. So that was a little bit of a negative for rates, but they’ve been at a lower point the last couple weeks than they’ve been in a while. So we’re seeing an opportunity where people are able to look at rates and potentially think about purchasing. But like we always say, it’s always good to be prepared and then react to what changes may come as they come.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, Lauren, refresh my memory. Is the next Fed meeting, is it September or is there going to be one this month?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it’s September.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
So we won’t probably see any action or any possibility of action until September’s meeting.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Okay. Well, there is inventory in the metro market right now, and so there’s opportunity. And when interest rates are higher, there’s creative things that can happen. So it’s important that people, if they’re thinking about making a move, that they should reach out to you.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s right. I mean, you can tell when you drive around there’s more inventory, so people are noticing that, which is good for buyers, right? It creates… It creates more opportunity for them and more, hopefully more, well, maybe even less competition as they’re out buying. So there is activity happening. People are taking advantage of that. And, you know, as we’re heading into the new school year, that might even temper some of the competition for people as well. So maybe they can get a good deal. So, yes, always time to be ready and be prepared. And then if the Fed does act in September and rates start to come down, then there’ll be all kinds of opportunities as well.
SPEAKER 20 :
So, of course, Jerome Powell, who is the chair of the Fed, he says that one of the things they’re concerned about is inflation. Of course, there’s this rub right now between Trump and Powell because Trump would really like to have interest rates come down, which would be great for everyday people wanting to access capital, but it also would reduce the cost of all of the money that – The federal government pays on interest on all these bonds. But if interest rates come down, would that be a possibility that those entities that have been buying our bonds, that they might not buy them? I know that’s a pretty tough question. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And I don’t necessarily think so. I think people will buy our bonds because they’re safe and they’re guaranteed. So I think there’s always going to be buyers for our bonds at no matter what rate. Um, and you’re right. Trump does want the rate spot down primarily for, you know, the interest that we’re paying on our debt and it would help everyday borrowers and especially with car payments and credit cards and things like that. And it would start to spur mortgages as well. Um, the fear is that if you, on the Fed side is if you loosen money, people will be more apt to borrow it. And the average person when they borrow money spends it, which is good for the economy, but it can create price hikes as well and inflation. So there’s always that balancing act. And, uh, And you’re right, you’re starting to see some members of the voters on the Fed that vote start to teeter a little bit towards wanting to cut. And I think there’s even one or more now that are leaning towards September. So I think you might start to see some action in September where at least the tide has turned a lot more. So we’ll see what it looks like when we get there.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, so if somebody is thinking about a new home or a new mortgage, should they wait on the sidelines right now?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I think they should always be ready, like we always say. And if you can qualify for a payment now and then things start to change, it’s not going to happen overnight. Even if the Fed cuts a quarter point in September, it’s not going to. make a big difference it’s going to hopefully be a start of a cutting trend which over many many meetings would lead to a lot of changes and so like i always say if you can if you find a home you love and you can afford the payment right now i would do it and then we can always come back and refinance that mortgage later to a much more manageable payment if rates drop okay what’s that phone number to reach you lauren lovey the best way is always just call 303-880-8881
SPEAKER 20 :
Again, that’s Everything Mortgages, Lorne Levy, 303-880-8881. And also, thanks, Lorne. We’ll talk with you next week. You got it. Thank you. And we talk about freedom, liberty all the time. And in order to have real freedom, you need to have economic freedom. And Maggie Thatcher knew that from a country standpoint, but also for individuals. And so if you are ready for financial freedom, call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. They’re an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary. They always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for a meaningful relationship. information sharing, a network of smart strategies, and a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie-cutter plans, everything tailored to you. So call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080. That’s 303-285-3080. In studio with me is Joe DiBiasio, and he has just a really interesting story. You’re just kind of out there doing a whole bunch of different things.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I’m a Renaissance man. I just want to be in everything.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and that’s really how America was founded is the Renaissance person. Another Renaissance man is on the line with us, and that is Trent Luce. He is a sixth-generation farmer and rancher, lives in Nebraska for over 20-some years. has been shedding light and traveling the country on focusing on these issues of the people that feed and fuel us. Because the people that feed and fuel us really have been under attack. So what does that mean? That your food and your fuel is under attack. And we have taken for granted going to the grocery store and having an abundant supply array of food to choose from and typically at a pretty good affordable price. We’ve taken that for granted and all that is really under assault now. So Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thanks, Kim, but I have to tell you that this week I had a little wake-up call. You said that it’s been over 20 years. It’s actually now been over 25 years since I decided that we’ve got to explain where our food comes from and why it’s important to domestic security. Well, it is. You know, you know, you and I, I brought to your attention and it spurred many discussions that you and I have had about the Iowa Winchester County Sheriff Dan Marks, who was actually sued by the Iowa governor and the attorney general because he didn’t follow orders and he said he only follows the Constitution. Well, I was in his office yesterday, and he is my guest on Trend on the Loose today, and that can lead us back into that immigration discussion if you want to. But the reason I’m sharing that with you is this sheriff who has actually set a precedent and now has had all that lawsuit dropped, and the governor basically said, we’re sorry you run your county as you see fit constitutionally. He said, as I sat down in his office, he said, well, Trent, it’s a pleasure to meet you. I’ve listened to you in high school on the radio, and I always wondered why. So for me to…
SPEAKER 20 :
for me to have the chance to meet you that’s pretty cool and I said well thanks Dan you made me sound like I’m really old now that reminds me of the old joke going to a high school reunion and running into somebody and the person says I think the woman says the guy says I think I had you in my class and he said well what did you teach well they were actually in the same class and I know that’s not funny is it Trent that’s really funny OK, so we’re going to jump into this. I have to tell you, Trent, I get emails and text messages from people that they think you have Trump derangement syndrome.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I know. I get that all the time.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I just I call them like I see them. So if they think that, I have no problem with it. I continue to dig up information that is factual with people that are involved and is very problematic.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, well, I wanted to get that out there because it’s always an interesting conversation. And, Joe, I’m glad that you’re staying in here as well. So, Trent, we had talked a little bit about this, but you’ve been frustrated with the deportation of farm workers, ranch workers. meat processing workers. And I did get a clarification, I think I mentioned this last week, is as I was trying to unpack this, is some of these people that are being deported, did they come in recently under the Biden administration? Were those visas fast tracked? I had somebody in that interfaces with that community and she said, yes, in fact, that is true. So there’s, I think, different things that are going on here, Trent. So what, you know, where do you want to start?
SPEAKER 09 :
I want to start by following the Constitution always. And by the way, you brought that up last week and I asked for proof and I did not receive any email or any verification to that. You may have gotten it. I just didn’t get it forwarded to me. But Sheriff Dan Marks is 100 percent on the money where I come from. And he said, I will not infringe upon the rights of the citizens or the legal workers in this county. because somebody wants me to go after people in an unconstitutional manner. And that’s really what it comes back to. And if we have individuals who are working in our food supply chain, they’re enabling our food system, they’re not criminals, they’re showing up and doing their job, I think there are some people that we need to focus on ahead of them. And I don’t say we necessarily need to go ignore them, But I don’t feel that people are recognizing the critical status of labor in this country to get the job done of feeding people. We are so close. And what I witnessed this week in distant farms all across this country, and the reason I was in Wisconsin this week was a whole other situation of a family farm literally being targeted who is making a living with 300 acres. Who makes a living with 300 acres in today’s world? And yet this family, they’re trying to put them out of business. Our nation’s food and fuel supply is at a critical level, and we seem to be chasing the wrong rabbit.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Joe DiBiasio, you actually have been watching this as well because you have worked with Gabe Evans on his energy committee. And Gabe Evans, congressman from Colorado, CD8, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 20 :
He’s taken a heat regarding some legislation that he is supporting. So talk to us a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, he’s co-sponsoring the Dignity Act. He’s reached across the aisle to the Democrats, and they’re basically saying that, listen, we need an asylum system overhaul, right? We need a way to bring people into this country, and we need to give them an opportunity to work. I think the majority of people who are on the Trump side of the aisle are really concerned angry about the immigration issue not because of the folks who come here and you know they’re looking for a better life and they want to work it’s the people who come here who are a burden on the tax system you know you look at denver we what was it 40 000 illegal immigrants came here you know what was their process to work we couldn’t put them through the i-9 process they’re not legal residents we would have to they’d have to go through i believe it’s called itin Is that what that’s called?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 06 :
I believe that’s the system where they get a FEIN and then they have to create their own business and they can 1099 work that way. I think that was the legal workaround before. Don’t quote me on that. The only issue I think I have with the Dignity Act as a libertarian is the E-Verify requirement. I think that should still be voluntary for entrepreneurs.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Trent, your thoughts on this? And in studio with me, you may not have heard his resume as Joe DiBiasio. And we talked in the first hour about these flock cameras, the whole surveillance state. But he’s a former defense contractor in the surveillance area. He’s on the energy committee for Gabe Evans, entrepreneur. And so I just wanted to introduce both of you guys so that you understood who each other, who you are.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nice to meet you, Joe. And I agree 100% with what Joe said. What he said was that we need to get the people who are living on the taxpayer heat. He didn’t use that word. I did. Because I’m a livestock guy. If you’re here illegally and you’re drawing illegal money from taxpayers, you need to be gone. There is nothing. In fact, I will take it one step further. If you’re an American citizen and you’re living… on the American taxpayers. You should probably be gone, too. We don’t have legal authority to do that, but that’s the reason we’re in the position that we are, is that we’ve continued to allow this debt to grow completely out of control, and we’ve enabled American citizens to be complacent, to be lazy, to get paid for doing nothing. Consequently, we rely on immigration and legal immigrated people here to get the job done. This is bigger than just rounding up The illegals who came in during the Biden administration is my point. And until we stop paying people for doing nothing, we are going to fundamentally have a problem.
SPEAKER 20 :
I do agree with you on that, Trent Luce. Joe?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think it was – so I want to give props to the Libertarian Party of Colorado. They had originally worked with Gabe Evans’ office, and they actually built that agreement between Eric Joss – And Gabe Evans and Eric Joss had stepped aside. And people attribute that to Gabe winning CD8. And whether or not that’s true is not the point. But I think it really opened a relationship with some libertarian perspective. And I think that’s one of the reasons. This is just what I believe. But I think that’s one of the reasons that Gabe was receptive to reach across the aisle. Because a lot of libertarians are, in fact, open border. Me, I think that obviously you can’t just open the border to, you know, socialist countries that come over here. They flood into Denver and, you know.
SPEAKER 20 :
And give them free stuff to do so.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah. So, you know, obviously you can’t be, you know, anti-tax and, you know, pro come over here and we’ll take care of you. That doesn’t work. So, you know, there’s got to be some middle ground here. And I think that the Dignity Act is that middle ground. We want to keep the people here who are contributing to society. We do need a workforce. It’s just a fact of life.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, also, and Trent, we’ve got to talk some more about this, and that is work ethic. Because paying people, if you pay people to not work, you’re going to get more people who don’t work. And so we’re going to keep that as our cliffhanger out there. Joe DiBiasio is in studio with me. We’ve got Trent Luce on the line. And these are such important discussions. And one of the reasons we have these is our sponsors. And the Second Syndicate is a great sponsor of the show. And Alicia Garcia, Teddy Collins, and Rosia Collins as well, Spartan Defense also, great gun store down in Colorado Springs. They co-founded the Second Syndicate so that we would bring these disparate voices together so that we can protect our Second Amendment rights.
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SPEAKER 1 :
I miss me.
SPEAKER 20 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are organizing this great event on August 23rd for the 48th anniversary of the Marine Memorial. And a great way to say thank you to those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty is to support the USMC Memorial Foundation. That website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And the subjects that we’re talking about today, both surveillance and immigration, a lot’s coming in on the text line. I do want to hear from you, 720-605-0647. In studio with me is Joe DiBiasio, and he is, we talked about surveillance. He had been a former defense contractor before. in the surveillance area, and we talked about flock cameras, but all of this surveillance. One of our listeners said, Kim, said, folks these days are too stressed out and too busy simply trying to exist to worry about Big Brother. Says we are generations removed from liberty as long as folks believe you can’t fight City Hall. But Joe DiBiasio, I’m starting to see people fight City Hall, and I love it.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is true. People are out there fighting.
SPEAKER 20 :
But it’s taken a long time to get to this point, as Trent Luce knows, because he’s been in this fight, shedding light on things for 25 years. And that’s one of the things that you say, Trent Luce, is that we need to be engaged at the local and the county and the state level. Hey, Trent, I’m going to change gears just a little bit as I’m thinking about this. We talked about it in the first hour. And you and I had discussions regarding these transmission line corridors. Elbert County commissioners voted to not approve the permit to Xcel Energy to go across Elbert County. El Paso County commissioners also voted no for that permit. And then we’re seeing the Metro Mayor’s Caucus say, hey, Xcel, we want to make sure that we have power. which I think is, and I don’t disagree with that, but I think that that is a connect the dots of, well, if that means you have to take the land of the people in Elbritt and El Paso County, so be it. Now, that’s not what the article said exactly, but that’s the dot I’m kind of connecting. What’s your thoughts on that, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you’ve got to go back to the root cause, and the root cause of this discussion about transmission lines, which is another part of why this farm I’m at in Wisconsin is, proposed transmission lines why do we have all of these massively proposed transmission lines all of a sudden all around this country and anybody can find a map with a quick search it’s because we’ve shifted what we want to be our supply of electricity electric generation when we had coal and natural gas as our primary supplier so the tune of 65% between the two combined in 2009 and we had a transmission line system that worked just fine. And the population grows, I understand that, but you can incrementally grow it. But because we’ve shifted and want to put wind and solar and all of these other non-sustainable systems in place, then we have to build these brand new transmission lines. And explain this to me. Why is it, Xcel Energy, that when they put a wind or solar project in Colorado, the power has to go to Chicago? And this place I was at yesterday, which is 300 acres, surrounded by two miles away from a wind development center, right next to, 10 feet from a proposed, not proposed, they are beginning to move dirt solar system. Then they’ve got to put transmission lines to send the power to Colorado. So tell me why it is that every single time there’s some new project, and a potential new transmission line, it has to travel 1,000 miles before it’s used. Everybody else is sending power to Chicago or Minneapolis. They’ve got to send it to Colorado. There’s something behind all of this, and I’ll tell you what the something is. There’s no concern or cloudiness for me. We have a government that wants to trade national asset companies. That is your and my land and everybody else’s that owns property in this country on Wall Street. They want that to be traded along with the federal land, which is one in three acres. So really, this is nothing other than using power to grab land and take it away from individual citizens.
SPEAKER 20 :
That’s the… thing that I’m deducing as well. Now, you look perplexed, Joe. What do you think?
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m just thinking through that. The idea that we’re exporting the energy to Chicago, Chicago and Illinois is exporting their energy to Colorado. Now, I didn’t know that.
SPEAKER 20 :
I didn’t know that.
SPEAKER 06 :
So at the last committee meeting, one of the conversations that came up was that the grids are not connected. So, I mean, maybe that’s part of this bigger play is to connect the larger energy grid across the U.S. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, but we have to keep asking these questions. Trent, Robert Bryce, I had him on a few weeks ago, and he’s really been on studying these things on power. And he and his daughter did a recent documentary. It wasn’t a high-budget documentary that he released on his sub stack a few weeks ago called Sunblocked. And what they were uncovering was the massive amounts of farm and ranch land that is being taken for these massive solar, well, in this case, solar industrial projects. And again, connect the dots. If you start to take land out of food production and you have more people, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that we’re going to have a problem.
SPEAKER 09 :
columbia county wisconsin which is where i was this week five percent of the land at this moment has been displaced by wind and solar alone discounting those two projects and the reason i went there because i can find wind and solar issues and debacles anywhere but this solar development company told the landowner we’re going to spray a chemical that could have a three plus year residual And there is a possible 500-foot drift if we spray this. Well, this field that I’m talking about, and by the way, the family, the Schoenbergs that I’m mentioning, they own 300 acres. They have strawberries you pick or we pick. They have sweet corn. They have corn mazes. They have peaches, amazing peaches. They have agritourism. Roughly 18,000 people a year come to their farm And this is how they have the ability to survive and maintain a family on 300 acres. If this solar company sprays a chemical on the adjacent property, which is just right on the fence line, and there is even a 150-foot drift, it puts them out of business. If this solar development center comes on the south side when they have the wind towers on the east side, And they are relying on 18,000 people to come a year because they want to enjoy the farm experience. They’re not going to come and do that when you have the glare issue that is going to take place. It’s going to change the dynamics and literally. And then with all of that happening, they decide that they need the infrastructure of a gravel quarry to support the 1,680 tons of concrete that goes into every single wind turbine base. the gravel that is needed. And then I talked to the chairman of the township because their township government is very strong. He said, we legally have the ability through statute to charge the development company three times the amount that it takes to fix the roads that they are going to destroy because they already know that there is not going to. They have already. I have videos of a road we drove on that has been completely destroyed by this project, and they haven’t done anything but start to move a little dirt. So that’s why I contacted him. I said, how are you going to pay for these roads that people that live in the area aren’t even going to be able to drive anymore? He said, well, through statute, we have the ability to charge them for what it takes to fix the road. So the township went as far as to hire a third-party entity to video every township road. in their jurisdiction before so that they have a before and after. Because what he said is, we know, this is Invenergy, by the way, there’s one side of them next era, the other side Invenergy, and we should ask the question, why is it always the same players that are seeking these tax credits? But they know they’re going to have to take them to court to get what statute says they’re obligated to pay. That’s what’s happening to our farmland and land opportunities in rural America.
SPEAKER 20 :
And you said that word, tax credit. That is not the proper role of government. These entities need to be able to compete in a free market. And so that’s the underlying problem there. Speaking of bad roads, though, have you seen the roads, Joe DiBiasio? Do you drive around much here?
SPEAKER 06 :
I do, yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
I thought I was going to lose a tire the other day on the pothole that I hit.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wouldn’t it be nice if some of those taxes you pay for the roads… Actually, went to the roads. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
What a novel idea. Trent Luce, have you been out on I-70 in Colorado recently? You haven’t been out here for a little while, have you?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t drive I-70, but I do drive I-76 a lot. And I-76 from the state line all the way down to Weld County is a disaster. I mean, years ago, I would even go over on, I think it’s 34 that goes through Sterling instead of passing. Sterling on 76. It’s horrible.
SPEAKER 20 :
It’s embarrassing. I drove out to Kansas a few weeks ago. As you know, I’m from western Kansas. And the minute you hit the state line, the roads in Kansas are much better. And the minute you are headed west on I-25 and you hit the state line of Colorado… It feels like you’re going to jiggle your teeth out of your head because the roads are so bad. And you have to ask. So we’re going to have a special session here with the legislature. And they say that we’re a billion dollars short on, I think, approximately $44 billion budget. Where is all the money going, Joe?
SPEAKER 06 :
I have some thoughts on that.
SPEAKER 20 :
We’re going to have to do another show on that, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah. Well, I think a lot of it’s going to health care policy and finance.
SPEAKER 20 :
You’re absolutely right. I had somebody that reached out that is a policy wonk, if you will. And he gave me a copy of the summary of the budget. And you’re absolutely correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you can if you follow Common Sense Institute, you’ll you’ll see that that the appropriations for Medicaid have just they’ve outpaced inflation.
SPEAKER 20 :
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It is a great day to be alive. And do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. Doing great work with educational programs for K-12. Also for teachers. They’re going to have a secondary teacher education event in September. Based on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. The center is nonpartisan. It’s nonpolitical. But focused on these important values. principles. And so be sure and check out their website. That is AmericanValueCenter.org. And in studio with me is Joe DiBiasio, and he is an entrepreneur, former defense contractor working with the surveillance community. He is on Gabe Evans’ CD8 Energy Committee. And we’ve got Trent Luce on the line, GAMI’s
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in the queue here but let’s try to button a few of these things up in this last segment the dignity act because there have been people that’s been very frustrated with gabe evans on that yeah and you know rightfully so i think it’s okay that people are frustrated i think it’s okay but that people disagree that’s fine um but we do need to look at what is being presented um the bottom line is that the dignity program gives you dignity status. And I think that’s a new status that people probably aren’t aware of. But it basically says that eligible individuals must come forward, pass background checks, admit unlawful presence, they have to pay restitution fees. And then there’s initial seven year program with biennial check ins. And you have to maintain good standing attestations and installment payments. I mean, these people, they’re going to have to basically apologize to the American people from what I’m reading here and pay restitution just for the opportunity to remain here. And they have to be in good standing with the state.
SPEAKER 20 :
So they have to be working. They’re not here with all the free stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and that’s the thing. And that’s the bottom line for me is that I just don’t like paying taxes.
SPEAKER 20 :
Most people don’t. They like to have other people pay taxes. They just don’t like to pay taxes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I’m okay with somebody immigrating to the U.S. as long as I don’t have to pay their way.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Next thing, Trent Luce, this came in on the text line. It says, is he aware how much it costs the producer to apply for each individual worker and what all that entails, application, housing, medical, food? And when they abscond, the farmer is out. And she says, we’re essentially buying slaves with the H-2A jobs. There’s 300,000 issued. Those are ag jobs. H-2B is seasonal work. 66,000 cap workers. plus extras in some years, H-1B skilled, $85,000 plus $20,000, U visa, crime victims, $10,000 each year, and then T victims, trafficking, and DACA. So there’s a lot of information there. You probably understand that a lot more than I do, Trent Luce.
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The average on the people that I know, and I can think of three right off that I know their numbers because they visit with me often, It costs between $2,500 and $4,000 to the employer to get an H-2A worker to their location to start working. And now the mandated time is $15 an hour for an H-2A worker. But just the cost can be up to $4,000 just to get them to their place to begin working.
SPEAKER 20 :
Wow. And again, this is for food production. I feel like I have some threads out there that we haven’t totally buttoned up. And so we’ll continue this discussion each week. Trent Luce is on the line. Joe DiBiasio is in studio. Gammy is chomping at the bit, I’m sure. She has something that she’d like to share.
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Good morning, guys. And Joe, I’m giving you a preemptive apology for what I might be stepping on. So, you know, just cross your legs. Sounds good. I’m going to make a funny before I say the real stuff. We went this morning on the show from surveillance of the proverbial fart to drinking regurgitated human remains to if you lay down with dogs, you’re going to wake up with fleas. Now, that’s the funny part of this. The fact is all of what I just said in such an insanity happens to be true. Joe, this is all to you. I’m coming after your butt. Listen. We have a majority, and we act like we’re plebeians. We act like we’re beggars. We go around kissing butts of communist, Marxist, criminal socialist takeover of the country, and we think we’ve got to play ball with the other side. The other side has been jabbed to the point of brains not functioning properly. They are useful twos, but now there’s more. Mr. Kaufman that owns the KPK Oil Company, right, you know, in our, well, national, but in our state, our energy commission in Colorado, with the blessing of our governor and the really sick energy commission that we have going on, has literally forged an attack on this man and his oil company to the point where I know, I read the big investigative reports, His rights, our rights as a state to have the energy that they provide have been so violated. Everything.
SPEAKER 20 :
And that and that’s true, Gammy. And we’re getting short on time. So I and Gammy is very well informed. Joe, love to have you respond to that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I mean, yeah, we shouldn’t be harming oil companies and contributors in state. I obviously disagree with that, you know. If you’re producing energy, I’m in favor of what you’re doing. You know, we have energy demand and people see the price of energy inflating. I mean, we’ve seen over 100% increase in energy costs over the past 25 years. So, you know, obviously, you know, what we would call thermal energy is still something we need as far as.
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The Dignity Act, I think she’s frustrated with. Gabe Evans coming together, reaching across the aisle. I think if we can reach across the aisle and not give up our principles, that’s important. I think to Gammy’s point is what I’ve seen with many politicians that those on center right have reached so far over the aisle that they’re not standing on principles.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And I agree with that, too. You know, like, first off, I’m a big fan of Javier Millay. So and Javier Millay’s position is, you know, you can’t negotiate with these people at all because you give them an inch and they’re going to take a mile. My position on Gabe Evans isn’t is nonpartisan. I don’t I’m not looking at it from whether I agree or disagree from his perspective. I’m looking at it more from a place of. ICE’s budget was about, what, $10 billion? And now they just increased it $28, $29 billion. So even if we’re just kicking people out of the country, we’re just going to round everybody up and get them out of here. We still have to spend money to do that.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. And then Trent Luce. And, Gammy, thank you. Trent Luce, your thoughts. How about you wrap this up? You’ve got two minutes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I truly believe it’s time we dismantle the federal government. We only need two things from the federal government. That is a strong military, and we need them to have a common currency between all states. The answer to do that is not as difficult as everybody makes it out to be. If states quit taking bribes, quit taking money, and allow each state to stand on its own, and we as citizens demand accountability, we now broke $38 trillion in a national debt Everybody just talks about it. It’s time to stop talking about the national debt and start taking action, and that is end government-funded programs, period.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and to that point, Trent Luce is another dot that I’ve connected. And that is, is we are concerned about this $38 trillion in debt, but we are going to have big tax questions on our local ballots. And so we need to say no to any new debt or extended debt at the local level, because say we get things under control at the federal level, Joe, but we continue to vote ourselves into more and more unsustainable debt at the local level. It doesn’t make sense. So with that, Gammy, as always, thank you. Trent Luce, as always, thank you. Joe DiBiasio, I hope you had a good time.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had a great time. Thank you, guys. And Gammy, thanks. Hit me anytime with whatever you want. I’m here for it. And she will. I know. All right.
SPEAKER 20 :
But she really does keep her finger on the pulse of so many things that are going on and connecting those dots. I don’t know quite how she’s able to do that, but she does a really good job on that. Our quote for the end of the show is G.K. Chesterton. He said this, right is right even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong even if everybody is wrong about it. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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and fast on a rough road riding high through the mountains climbing twisting turning further from my home young like a new moon rising fierce through the rain and lightning wandering out into this And I don’t want no one to cry But tell them if I don’t survive
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