In a world where storage units have become commonplace, Fix It Radio challenges the norm by promoting effective organization and clutter reduction. This episode addresses the financial and psychological costs of keeping unnecessary items and offers a fresh perspective on the importance of space freedom. With engaging stories and practical advice, we aim to inspire listeners to make smarter decisions about their belongings. Larry Unger shares his own experiences, highlighting the emotional connections we hold with our possessions and the importance of creating meaningful order in our lives. Tune in to learn how to transform cluttered chaos into organized
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Walter? Upstairs! Are you alright?
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In the floor behind the chair.
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This is America.
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Does everybody know what time it is? Fix It Radio!
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And it’s Fix It Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. Myself, Larry Unger, joining me today. Normally he’s in answering phones, but he shifted gears today and came over to this side of the glass. So, Larry, thank you.
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You’re welcome.
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Appreciate it very much. Hopefully you’re all having a great start of your Saturday. If you’re listening to us on a replay show, thank you for doing that as well, especially the Tuesday edition. I appreciate you all listening. You can always text us a question, 307-282-22. You can call in live today on Saturday at… and of course that number 303-477-5600 303-477-5600 last week and we had lots of interaction uh last week on last week’s topic i didn’t quite get done with everything so i thought i would continue maybe not the whole program today but at least get a few more things in and that was we went through last week just the organizing and cleaning up of stuff and some of that uh or that particular topic, I should say, came from you all. I have been talking about that off and on, oh, you know, just for a while, going through a lot of my folks’ things and so on. It’s something I talk about periodically. Well, a few weeks ago, there’s several of you that said, hey, why don’t you just do a complete show on how to go through some of this stuff, how to get organized, how do you decide what to keep and get rid of and all of that stuff. And we got into that last week. Well, out of that, and this is not an exaggeration, I probably had as many text messages on that topic as I’ve had on any topic we’ve ever done, and I’m not exaggerating at all. I had people throughout the week sending me the things that they had, pictures of things that they had gone through, things they had thrown away. In one case, one of you cleaned out an entire storage unit and are no longer having to rent the storage unit because of… last week’s show and so on. So it did make a difference for a lot of you, and I’m glad it did. That’s the whole idea of this show is to make a difference for all of you that are listening, and hopefully you gain something out of this. And I had several people even one-on-one, not even via the text line, but just one-on-one say, you know, I have a goal that I’m going to do X, Y, Z. I’m going to be back and parking in my garage. I’m going to do this. I’m going to do that. And you’ve inspired me to get all these things done and get some things done And again, thank you. I appreciate that. And today we’ll talk a little bit more about that, how to get some of those things cleaned up and, you know, what to do to even stay organized after the fact. I think that’s the other thing we didn’t get into last week is it’s great to get everything all cleaned up. But unless you change what you’re going to do moving forward, you’ll be right back where you were already. So point being, let’s make a habit change and not have as much stuff moving forward so that you don’t get back in that same situation where you’re having to rent storage units and so on to actually have the stuff now.
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Well, every time you use the storage unit, like we were talking earlier, it’s just stuff.
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Yes.
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And if it’s in a storage unit, you’re not going to use it. You’re not going to see it unless you go visit your storage unit every week.
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We have one that’s just to the west of the station, literally. We look out the window, and there’s a storage unit just to the west of us. And Larry and myself and Charlie, we look down on this storage unit at times. And I don’t know about these two, but there’s times where the door will be open, and I look in there, and I’m like, you know what? All that’s in there is junk, literally. Yeah, Charlie has binoculars, so we actually have the ability to, you know, peep in and really see what’s in those units, and you can literally look down on these units, and honestly, it’s just junk. Most of what’s there, you could have just hauled to the dump and never went to the storage unit in the first place, but people spend money, and I guess it’s an American way. I mean, storage units are cash cow. If you ever get an opportunity to own one, own one, because in most cases, they’ll make you money because people spend money. to store junk. Now, I get it. In some cases, people need that extra storage. Sometimes people store cars. Some people are in between moves. In other cases, business owners may use one to actually operate out of. Maybe they operate out of their home, but they need another place to store things.
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Okay.
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That’s a different scenario. And you can tell those, by the way, by when the door opens and you look in. You can tell those compared to some of the others because those are typically the ones that are nice and organized. You can see people coming and going and so on. But in a lot of cases, the storage units are just plumb full of nothing but junk. So kind of a recap of last week. First things first, and we talked about this, is as you get ready to clean out whatever, it could be the garage, it could be the basement, it could be a storage shed, the first thing you need is space to do the organizing. And I want to make sure I reiterate that, because you can’t start organizing unless you’ve got space to do it. Part of the driveway, if you’ve got the basement, you’ve got to get enough of an area cleaned out, moved aside to where you’ve got a place to lay things out and start determining, am I keeping, am I throwing? Now, you may have to do some initial things to get to that spot where you’ve got a square to work off of and make that square hopefully larger. And as I said last week, I don’t think it’s a bad idea to also have a plan of, okay, because it can become inundating. You literally can look at all of this stuff. And for some of you listening where you’ve got family members you may be helping, you may be inheriting some things, you may have family members that pass away like I did, and now you’re kind of stuck doing these things. And in some cases, there may be nobody around to even help you with what should we save and what should we get rid of. It’s now going to all be on you. But My point is you have to go in with a plan. You can’t get ADD and just start working in one spot, and then pretty soon you jump over to another spot, and then you jump back to another spot, because if you do that, you’ll never get anything done. You literally have to say, okay, I’m going to use a clockwise motion to start cleaning, or I’m going to use a counterclockwise motion, or I’m going to make a straight line down the middle so I can do what John’s saying, and I can get some floor space cleaned up, and then I’ll start in a clockwise motion. you know, rotation or whatever you decide you want to do. I mean, point being, figure out, kind of map out, this is what I want to do. Now, some of you may say, I’m going to start with the little stuff first or I’m going to start with the big stuff first. You know, it doesn’t really matter. Start wherever you want. Now, Another tip, and I didn’t say this last week, is if there’s for sure things that you know are definitely, you know, maybe larger items. So, for example, maybe you’ve got a, because sometimes this happens, people think, you know, I replaced my washer and dryer. Instead of donating or giving it away, I’m just going to go put it in the basement because you never know when somebody else might need that. They’re still good, but, you know, maybe somebody else could use them at some point. Well, then 10 years later, they’re still in the basement. Kind of stuck in a corner. So those are some of the items that if you know you’re not using those and that can get some space moved right away, then go tackle those big things first. You know, if that’s the case. And by the way, I’m using examples, you know, some real world examples. If if that’s the case. then find a way to get those disposed of first and open up some more room. In other words, if tackling some of those larger items gives you a lot more floor space, then, of course, go look at some of those large items. That’s where you could bounce around a little bit and get rid of the large items first and then start tackling those smaller items. What I’ll get into today a little bit as well is just some of the maybe memorabilia and things that people save. And I think what you personally have to look at, and if you’re somebody that’s inheriting these things, what you really need to look at in the memorabilia sides of things is who’s this important to is it important to you is it important to your kids is it important to your grandkids and by the way it’s okay to even have some of them where you maybe you’ve got two or three boxes of memorabilia when you’re all said and done it’s okay to bring some of those family members in or even send them pictures and say are these things anything you guys would like i mean You don’t have to have them there with you. We have this nice advent now of cell phones and picture delivery and all sorts of things to make it really easy. You could FaceTime. There’s all sorts of ways to make that happen. You could literally even take a quick video. Hey, there’s some things here. I want you guys to look at these. All of you kids look at this or look at the grandkids or however you guys want to do this. And tell me if there’s anything here you guys would like. And be honest. Don’t just say you want it because you think you’re going to hurt my feelings if you say you don’t want it. Be really honest. If you’re going to use the stuff, great. We’ll save it. If not, it’s going. And ask the family, because what you think might be important to you, that next of kin, it may end up in the trash anyways. So here’s my point. If you’re not looking at it, and it’s been in boxes for the last several decades, and the next of kin doesn’t want it, why are you saving it?
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Because you can.
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Good point, Larry. Good point. But if you’re not using it, and again, if it’s just buried away in a box and you’re not doing anything with said item, then my feeling is toss it. Get rid of it. You don’t need it.
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I would agree. I’ll give you an example. I’ve got my father passed away in 1990.
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He was a lifer Marine Corps.
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I have five foot lockers of his stuff. Uniforms, medals, leatherneck magazines, et cetera, et cetera. To me, that’s important. To my family, they don’t have a clue what it means. So I’ve been saving it.
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So then you have to decide how long do you keep it?
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I’ve been saving it all these years. Until just about six months ago, I said, you know what? It’s time to just move it on.
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Well, and here’s the other thing a lot of you can do. Let’s say it’s a piece of memorabilia that you still want to have the memory of, but you don’t necessarily need the item. Okay, this is where you get a nice white cloth sheet. Put it out on a table. Put it out on even a white table, however you want to do this. My point is get a nice white background. Take a picture of that item. You now have the memory of said item. But if you don’t need the physical item and all you’re looking for is the memory of, then do what I’m saying because a digital photo takes up no space.
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Right.
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Literally no space. It’s all digital. So there’s no physical space other than your phone, which you’ve got doing other things anyway. So outside of that, there is no space taken up. And then you can dispose of said item, donate said item, whatever you think you need to do with it. Now, in some cases, and I’m sorry to say this, but in some cases, if it’s something that’s just near and dear to you, it probably isn’t anybody else. And I’m sorry to say this, but what you might be hanging on to thinking it’s really valuable, you know, unfortunately, the rest of society probably doesn’t think the same way about it.
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Well, and there’s also places on the Internet that you can search if you think something is valuable. Search that particular item and see if it is.
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Yeah, and just going through a lot of this stuff from my folks, I will tell you that in most cases, you may find a few things, to Larry’s point, where there may be some value. But then, as I said last week even, you’ve got to determine even what the value is versus what’s it going to take to extract that value. And you need to put your own threshold in place. In other words, if an item is above or below X amount, it’s either getting tossed or I’m going to go ahead and try to extract that value. And you need to determine what that dollar figure is. Is it 10? Is it 20? Is it 50? Is it 100? I mean, where’s that magic number whereby you’ll go through the effort to make that sale happen? Because there will be effort involved. Anytime you go to sell something, it’s not simply, you know, sometimes somebody will walk along and just pay you the money for it. But typically, you’ve got to figure out where the buyer is. You’ve got to go through… maybe even several people to determine which buyer works for you, getting together, getting the money exchanged, delivering the product. I mean, there’s a transaction here that now takes place, and it’s not as simple as saying, oh, yeah, that’s worth X amount of money. Well, is it? Is it? I mean, there’s that old saying, what’s something worth? What somebody’s willing to pay. At the end of the day, that’s what something’s really worth. You may think it’s worth a fortune. Everybody else might have a different opinion.
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I know when looking at my dad’s stuff, I thought, hey, you know what? This stuff is 50, 60, 70 years old. It’s worth some money. No, it isn’t. It’s worth memories, but that’s all it’s worth.
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Great point, Larry. And this is not to be – I don’t want to take the – The fervor out of anybody or anything or take memories away or anything like that, that’s not what I’m saying. And again, there are ways to preserve the memories. That’s what we have video and pictures and all of that for. So you’ve got the ability to still preserve the memory. But remember, as I said last week, something I try to remind all of my clients of as well that I coach, every square inch of everything that you own has a cost to it. So what are you paying to store said items, whether it’s in a storage unit that you’re renting or whether it’s your own home or your own business? Reality is, at the end of the day, every square inch of everything you own has a cost to it. What is it costing you to store said items?
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And Charlie brought up an interesting point last week when you were talking this. He’s got a lot of boxes of paper stuff that is just history and memorabilia type of stuff. Scan it. put it away and then you can get rid of the actual physical part of it. So you don’t have boxes full of stuff. You’ve got things scanned and stored away in whatever media you want to store it.
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So for example, I just did a little math and I just used an average 2,500 square foot house. I know some people have less, some people have more, but I just use 2,500 as kind of a round number. Some of you have way bigger houses than that. Some of you have smaller houses than that. And I used a $10,000 a year expense for that house. And that’s not even including mortgage payments. I’m talking that’s most likely on a 2,500-square-foot house. That’s probably going to be some of your maintenance upkeep. That’s going to be taxes and insurance. And that’s it. I did not include a mortgage into this figure. This is strictly, if you had the house paid for, that’s pretty close annually to what you’re going to spend on, again, maintenance, property taxes, homeowners insurance. I used 10 grand. So a 2,500-square-foot house, easy math, You take the $10,000, divide the $2,500 into it. It’s $4 a square foot. So think of it that way. As you’re storing some of these items on your property, you know, in your house, not outside because that’s a different figure. You can go look at outbuildings and so on a little differently. But in the house itself, whatever you’re storing, on the figures I just used in that scenario, it’s $4 a square foot. annually to have that item there. So if it’s a $25 item and you’ve had it for a decade and it’s taking up a square foot, you’ve spent $40 in the last decade to store a $25 item. That’s how you can start doing some of this math and start figuring out are these things I really need to be keeping or are these things I really should be getting rid of? And for some of you that have larger properties where there’s more expense and so on, you can do the math yourself and start determining what am I paying on a per square foot basis to actually have these items sitting on the floor whereby I could be doing something else with this particular square footage. If nothing else, just having more room to put something else in. Maybe in the basement, if you’ve got it all full of stuff, could you finish the basement off and have more living space? If it’s in the garage, could you have it all cleaned out and put one or two cars in the garage and not be scraping snow in the wintertime? And, and, and. I can go down the list of things along these lines that you can do as an alternative to storing stuff. And I hate to use the word junk, but in a lot of cases, that’s what it is. I’ve gone through that even on my own, where a lot of it is just junk. So one thing I did last week, and this was after the show, is I went home and through the weekend kept working on a bunch of the things that I have. And my dad had, and I do as well, over all these years, a full collection of hardware. I mean, everything from all sorts of different types of screws to nuts to bolts to washers to brass fittings to all sorts of different fasteners, you name it, nails and you name it, all sorts of stuff. And you kind of hate to throw some of that stuff away. On the same token, how much of it do you really need? So the rule of thumb I used last week, and some of you may want to use this, is I was going through a bunch of nuts and bolts and screws and so on. Here’s the rules I use for throwing things away. And I don’t mean throw away. If it’s iron, there’s scrap iron there, and that can all be recycled, and I separate that out from trash. I don’t throw that in the trash. I keep those things separate. A, I don’t put them in the trash because I don’t want screws and things falling out and then having, you know. tires that have problems and so on. So I don’t anything that scrap goes into its own container that’s contained so that it doesn’t spill all over everything. Anyways, you get the drift there. So here’s a rule of thumb I used. If it’s rusty, it’s getting tossed. I’m not going to go through and clean up anything that’s rusty and so on to try to reuse it again, because typically by the time it’s rusty and all of that, it’s got some degradation to it and I’m not going to use it anyway. So that was the first rule is if it’s rusty, it’s getting tossed. If it’s a flathead screw, it’s getting tossed. I hate them with a passion. I will not use them. I don’t care what it is. I don’t care if it’s brand new. If it’s a straight flathead screw, it’s going because I’m not using it anyway. So that was my second rule of thumb. So if it’s rusty, it’s getting tossed. If it’s a flathead screw, it’s getting tossed. And then the last thing that I did, now this can be for each one of you because I don’t do much woodworking. So I have no use for zero-grade bolts. If it’s a no-grade bolt, I’m not keeping it. It could be brand new. And for those of you that don’t know how to grade bolts and how they’re graded, go look it up on the Internet. There’s lots of pictures that will show you whether it’s a zero-grade, whether it’s a grade 5, grade 8. You get the grade 12. You get the drift. You can go figure out what those are on the Internet. If you have any kind of question, you can tell what the what the integrity of a bolt is by looking at its grade. And personally for me, because being more on the automotive side and the things that I do, I will never use a grade zero bolt anyways. So why am I keeping it? All grade zeros that I found, I tossed. The other rule of thumb I used, if I looked at the threads, and some of this takes a little bit of time, and I spent time doing this last weekend, if it looks at all like the threads have stretched even slightly, I’m tossing it. The other thing that I will not use, and this is coming from years and years and years of being in the automotive world, I will not use a bolt that’s already been used.
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Period. Because they stretch. Their integrity is not the same. I learned this over the years putting on trailer hitches and all sorts of things along those lines where the liability was huge. And I only use brand new hardware when doing those types of jobs. Now, I know everybody’s different, and if you’re putting together wood items and so on, and you’re having to bolt some things together, grade zero is fine for some of that stuff. But for me personally, I won’t use anything less than a grade five ever. And if it’s something that’s really structural you want to keep together, it’s grade eight or above, or I’m not using it. So if it’s a grade zero, it got tossed. And if I could tell that that particular nut and bolt had been used, In other words, you could just tell by looking that you can look. It’s not hard to tell that threads have been stretched or they’ve got a point to them. Or if there’s any kind of thread damage, maybe they need to strip just a little bit, but maybe the rest of the threads are good. All of that kind of stuff got tossed. Hardware isn’t that expensive. And furthermore, I’ve got so much more of it, I could probably fill a Home Depot aisle up, and I’m not exaggerating. I’m literally not exaggerating. I’ve got that much stinking hardware over all the years of collecting things from myself and my dad and owning businesses and so on. So reality is I’ve got plenty of extra, and I am not going to shuffle through a bunch of nuts and bolts to figure out whether something’s good or not. I’m keeping only the good stuff. grade five or above, and anything that’s rusted, used, has paint on it, you name it, if it was anything along those lines, it went. So for those of you that are going through some of those things, you come up kind of with your own guidelines, and here’s my point, stick to it. Just because you look at it, it’s nice and shiny, and you think, oh, I should keep that. Well, if you’re not going to use it for anything, why keep it?
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Well, along those lines, you’re talking quantity of items also. So if you’ve got 100 of the same kind of bolt, are you going to need 100 of those bolts?
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No. Now, in that case, maybe you don’t want to just toss them into the scrap metal. Maybe you’ve got somebody you know, a neighbor, somebody that might be able to use them. That’s up to you as far as that goes. Getting rid of hardware is typically fairly difficult because most people don’t know what they need or what they’re even going to have and how they’re going to store it and so on. And the other thing I would also say is, because my father was sort of famous for this, if he really didn’t know something or he just had extras, it just went in a coffee can. I can’t tell you how many coffee cans this past weekend I went through where I dumped it out and had to organize everything in the coffee can. And I should have just probably tossed the coffee can to begin with, but I wanted to go through to make sure there wasn’t any valuables in there, anything that was worth saving. But when it was all said and done, probably out of the coffee can, maybe 10% of that is what I ended up saving when it was all said and done. My time is probably more valuable than that 10%. I probably should have just tossed the coffee can, you know, to begin with. But my point is, don’t just throw everything into the same bucket. And as auto shop owners, Larry knows what I’m talking about. I can remember throughout the years literally having buckets and buckets of extra used hardware that, you know, oh, we’ll sort through that at some point. But you never do.
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Oh, we had five-gallon buckets full.
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Yeah, we did too. And over time, it was just, okay, that just needs to go in the scrap bin because at the end of the day, you’re not going to go through that sort of thing. And that’s the trick too, by the way. If you’ve got some old paint buckets and they’ve got lids on them, especially if you have to have lids, that would be the way to get rid of some of this hardware because you can put in a five-gallon bucket, seal it back up, and those aren’t spilling out anywhere. So when you go to take that in for scrap or give it to somebody that does scrap metal or whatever… It’s not falling all over the floor, the dirt, the street, whatever. It’s not going to fall out of the truck or the trailer as you’re hauling it. Just put it in a five-gallon bucket. Put a lid on it or a tub or however you want to do it. But put it in a bucket and keep it that way. Now, here’s another thing to remind everybody of. Those bolts and screws and so on, because of how heavy they are and how closely they’ll pack in, they get heavy really fast. Yes, they do. You take even a half a bucket full of hardware. and it’s heavy. I mean, you could go get a full workout having just a half a bucket of hard work. Oh, easy. Yeah, they add up really fast. So that’s just one little tip on how to organize a few things along those lines. I’ve got some other ideas for you. And now for me, are some things and i went through some of this this past weekend where if it’s a zip tie and it’s still good guess what i’m keeping that zip ties are one of those things that you’ll always find a use for i don’t care if you’ve got a thousand of them at some point you’ll use a thousand of those up because you use them for all sorts of different things and those are the things that yes i will save because they’re easy to keep they’re easy to store they’re easy to organize and that’s something that yes i’ll definitely keep now if it’s a zip tie that still might be good because it maybe got you know opened up and sort of reused and so on guess what i’m still throwing it away i’m zip ties now are so cheap that i’m not going to use a used zip tie so go through some of your hardware and things like that that’s the other thing now i would say that’s kind of towards the end of what we’re talking about those are the things that i would put off to the side and once you’ve got most of your major stuff organized you can start going through some of this you know some of this hardware and different things you may have kicking around and again for every one of you i know this is going to be different because each one of you have different things but I got a few more tips along these lines. Bottom line, continue the things that we talked about last week in cleaning and organizing and throwing out. And last but not least, and I didn’t talk about this last week, you do have to set a time limit. If you decide that, OK, I’m going to work on this this weekend. OK, for how long? Because you in some cases, you could literally dedicate your life and every day to getting some of this stuff cleaned and organized. You still need to do other things in life. So you need to set a time. I’m going to work on this for two hours. I’m going to work on this for four hours or whatever the case may be. Set a time limit when you get to that time limit. You’re done. You go refresh yourself or maybe you’re even going to work on it two hours, take a break and come back to it for two hours. Whatever you’re going to do, just keep an eye on the time because it can become so engulfing that you literally kind of lose track of time because you’re so busy doing all this organizing that you kind of lose track of things. So Set a time limit and stick to your time limit on things as well. All right. Suggestions, anything else you guys want to add, please let us know. 303-477-5600. We’ll be right back. This is Fix It Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Fix It Radio, KLZ 560. Just continuing on with what we talked about last week, and I won’t do this next week, so we’ll get all this in today. I was just talking about cleaning, organizing, how to stay on top of it. I got a text message from somebody a moment ago. Nine trips to Habitat and ARC over the past week. Good for you, by the way. Hallelujah. Nine trips. That means you’re getting rid of stuff, and you’re giving it to somebody else where they might be able to use it.
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That was one of the things I was going to bring up after the break is the fact that there are organizations that will take things, whether it be washing machines, whether it be nuts and bolts and washers, anything that they can build a house with.
SPEAKER 06 :
True. Any of that kind of stuff.
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So there’s organizations out there. So if you have a problem trying to get rid of something, Search the internet. There’s places out there that will take it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Somebody also said, are we to the point in our lives, myself, Larry, and Charlie, are we at a point in life where you just don’t buy the stupid stuff anymore, quote unquote? Yeah, I’ve kind of been past that for a while. If it’s not something I’m going to need and or use, or it’s not an quote unquote inventory type item to where, I know I may use that depending upon circumstances. Yeah, I’m not just buying it to buy it. I don’t want to just have it sitting around. Now, like in my case, I am one of those where I have the fear of running out. You all know that I talk about that during the week. I have full row fear of running out. So, yeah, I’m one of those guys because, for example, I use black enamel spray cans for all sorts of different projects and things that I’m doing out in the shop and around the house and so on. That is something that when I go to buy one, I don’t just buy one. I’ll buy a couple. And then when I get down to where I’m getting down to the end of the second one, then I go buy a couple more. So there are certain things that I stock, I guess you could say, that I have in my inventory that – I do keep on hand, you know, some primer, some things along those lines whereby, you know, you do any kind of projects and such. The last thing I want to do just on a whim is have to go someplace, buy that, you know, material, come back and then do the project. I do want to have enough stuff on hand so that if I’m doing something, I can just get it done and handled and out the door we go. Now I’m not stocking every color and everything along those lines, but I’m going to stock some shiny black, some flat black, maybe even some satin black, maybe some gray and some silver. I mean, Things that you would have normal projects that you would do around the house and then outside of that, no, I’m not doing much of anything else.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I think the key to that, John, is you’re only going to buy one or two items. You’re not going to buy 50.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I’m not buying a case. Now, the only time I’ll buy a case is if you know, for example, it’s something you’re going to use a lot of and you’re somebody that does a lot of projects and you can buy that at a discount because you’re buying a case. Well, you know who you are and you know what you’re doing, but don’t just buy a case to buy a case.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because here’s the other thing. That stuff over time can go bad. I do have a tip on how to fix some of those, by the way. You can actually use compressed air. And if you get a can that goes dead, you can use compressed air, pump that back up, and actually use that item. I opened a can of glass cleaner yesterday that just happened to be dead. It doesn’t happen very often. And I love the spray-away stuff. Normally, those cans are always good. This wasn’t an old can. So something happened where it just didn’t get charged or something went down the line and something happened again. Now, I’ll charge that myself. I have the ability with compressed air. Well, I will charge that back up myself and still be able to use the content. Somebody else asked me. Do I store anything for my adult kids? Absolutely, positively not. No, I do not. They can figure stuff out on their own. They’ve got their own homes and so on. And I am not storing their crap. So that is like that’s my number one rule. I am not storing anybody else’s stuff. junk on that level now i have some other situations and did some things with family and so on uh you know with my dad and that that’s a different scenario but as far as the kids go the adult kids know i’m not storing their stuff the only time i stored anything for my kids was if like they were moving and they needed a little space for a short period of time i would store it for them within a couple weeks it’s gone Somebody did ask or did mention to a moment ago, and this is very true, that shelving is much cheaper than floor space. Yes, going up because that square footage is still the same. You’re just adding to the square footage going up. Great point, by the way. So if you’ve got the ability to do shelving or anything along those lines to store things on, absolutely. That’s way better than just throwing it out on the floor.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mark, you’re up next, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, good morning. So my stepdad, when I was growing up, his father was a West Virginia, I think, oil worker. No, coal miner, something, either one. But they were prompted to always save every little thing. And when my mom passed, we had to go through stuff that he had had from his dad. when he passed probably 10 years ago um so it’s really tough even if it’s just screws and bolts i get it uh unless it’s um you know super valuable but the reason why i was calling is i’ve been doing my own cleanup um since i got a storage uh connex instead of storage unit um so i don’t have to pay rent but what had happened while i was doing all this is i remembered some article or some story somewhere where someone was cleaning up, kind of like Gene Hackman maybe, where they were doing some cleanup and then ran into some droppings, got sick, and died. And so behind one of my bolt boxes, I found a couple of droplets, and I thought, oh, I’ll just sweep it up, grab a broom or vacuum. I had the drop back right there. And I thought, you know what? Because John has been talking about ChatGPT, let’s use ChatGPT real quick to ask a simple, straight question. Is this the best option for what I just found? And it said, absolutely no way, don’t do that whatsoever. You know, don’t sweep it, don’t run a vacuum, you know, instead to, you know, isolate the area the best you could. Um, and then, and then use like a mask and some gloves and some, you know, some of your eyeballs and spray disinfectant over it and let it get, you know, for, you know, 15 to 30 minutes. I can’t remember exactly. I should have screenshot of it, but.
SPEAKER 06 :
Antivirus is what that’s called by the way, Mark.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Yeah. So it was, it was talking about, you know, instead of just, you know, while you’re going through your, your, your hardware, whatever, be careful with that because you don’t want to get yourself sick because you’re in a hurry. You know, and I hate to say this, you know, there was some emotion tied to going through my own boxes of screws and bolts and nuts. Like, Hey, I remember this project. Hey, I remember this project. I remember, you know, working on that or fix this light or build something for the kids or whatever. And, and that emotion kind of made me forget a little bit about safety. But then I had this big web just kind of grabbed me in the face and I was like, Oh, know maybe this isn’t fully clean in here um you know let’s let’s take a step back and i was just walking in to get some water and i thought you know maybe we should think about our own health as we’re in this building it’s a it’s a 16 by 12 shop it’s not a small building no that’s nice yeah no that’s nice yeah i built it stronger than the house i built it out of two by sixes and it’s not going anywhere But I just wanted to call out one thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
I want to dovetail into this because one thing you just mentioned, which I think is also very key, and that is we all, especially some of us that live more in the country, but it can happen even in the city, mice, rodents, things like that can get in. And I will tell everyone listening that, and we’ve talked about this before, how do I get rid of mice and so on and so forth? There are things you can do. There are, of course, traps and bait and poison and whatever. electronic devices and so on but i will tell everybody mark you included the best way to keep them out of your stuff is the cleaner it is and the better it smells the less issues you’re going to have with them coming in in the first place they don’t like clean things and the better we keep things clean picked up off the floor you know in other words just get rid of the temptation for them to even be in there in the first place you’ll have less of them
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Yep. And I, and I sanitize the entire core, all four corners. Cause I just thought I’m cleaning it out anyway. And if they’ve run, you know, cause they run like laps around the corners. So I thought, you know, if I get the whole corner instead of just where I see it, then, you know, there, there won’t be any temptation if there, if there any, and I haven’t seen any. So that, that those droppings could have been there from a year ago or two years ago or something. and just then stagnant in there. But anyway, my point was just, you know, clean up safety, even though we want to get these projects done.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, and I’m glad you mentioned that, Mark. That’s a great tip because it’s rare to not find some of those things as you’re cleaning and so on, especially when you’re in some of the outdoor areas. And that’s not necessarily in your house, but you’re out in some of the outdoor areas, garage sheds, things like that. It’s going to be really uncommon, especially if you’ve had stuff sitting for years, to not find some of what you just mentioned, myself included. Now, the one thing that I’ve learned to do over the years is – and I didn’t look this up on AI. I guess I should have. I don’t disinfect, but I use a nice, long tool on a shop vac where I’m not even close to that. and all that’s going in. Then when I empty the shop vac itself, I put a mask on and gloves and go into the shop vac and get rid of it that way so that I’m not, you know, really around it, breathing it, things along those lines, because it is one of those things you got to be careful of.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Chad, I mean, I don’t mean to step on each other’s, but Chad GPT said do not do it that way.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know.
SPEAKER 08 :
They want to disinfect it first, right? Yeah, it said disinfect it twice. Twice, okay. The one that I read, yeah. Okay. And then that way there’s no residual or whatever that’s there is dead, dead. And then use a gentle sweep. Well, actually, it doesn’t even say sweep. It says to use a paper towel, you know, use gloves, use paper towel to kind of gather it together. And then as you kind of crunch up the paper towel, throw that whole mess away instead of it becoming re-airborne from the sweeping mechanism or the vacuum.
SPEAKER 06 :
Interesting. Okay, good to know. I mean, I thought about that. I mean, I guess, you know, to a point, you have exhaust coming out of the shop vac, so even when that’s going in, it’s exhausting back out. Right. No, great point. I’ve always wondered, not to get completely off topic and get on another whole end of things here. mark and others but i’ve always wondered when it comes to the you hint a virus and so on are some people more susceptible to that than others is it like other viruses where some people’s body do a better job of fighting things off than others and that’s something i don’t have an answer to i don’t know i mean just because i know over the years mark i have cleaned up a lot of mouse poop over the years it’s respiratory and charlie do you think some are more susceptible to it than others Yeah, Charlie said if you’re compromised or weaker there, then yes, you probably have a bigger chance of having a problem than someone else. Because I know Mark over all the years from the time I was a kid until now. I can’t tell you how many mouse droppings I’ve cleaned up over all the years.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I’ve done that too. And usually I try not to use a vacuum because of the fact that, you know, even if you have the HEPA filter on there, it’s going to blast.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it is. You’re right. You’re right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And, you know, I just thought, well, why don’t we just try the chat GPT? Because I got to say, John, after you brought it up and mentioned to use it, not as a search engine.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, great point. I hadn’t thought of that. That’s a great use. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Finding ways to use chat GPT as far as like storage. You know, I’ve texted you about some apps and things like that. But it’s a pretty fascinating tool for sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. No, great point, Mark. Thank you. That was a great tip. I didn’t think about that. Great tip. Absolutely. Thanks, Mark. Appreciate you, man. Have a good one. I just got somebody that said, too, and I’m not trying to be mean here by any means, but somebody texted me and said that they’ve got a wedding dress that’s been passed down from grandmother on down through the years. It’s from 1935. And so my question was, who uses it? And the person came back and said, it’s never been reused. And I said, and then the comment was the Smithsonian. And I’m like, it’s time to toss or donate. I’m sorry. 1935 wedding dress. It’s great. It’s memorable. That’s fabulous. Take a picture of it. Hang it up. Do whatever you want to. Have that memory. And that thing would be gone. Somebody else asked me when it comes to storing your adult kids’ stuff, was I the type that would put things in tubs and hand to my kids when they came to visit? Yes. If I found stuff that was not mine and is theirs, the minute I find it, it is getting put together and it is going to them and their homes because I’m not storing that stuff. Furthermore, if they want it, you know, if they want it, don’t want it, whatever, then they have the opportunity to go through it and decide what they want to do with it at that point. And I’ve done that with everything from old pictures to albums to yearbooks to whatever. I mean, no offense, folks. I’m not looking at that stuff. Why do I need to store my kid’s yearbook? I’m not ever going to go back and look at that. I don’t need to. So at the end of the day, yeah, it’s going back to the kids and they can decide what they want to do with it because I’m not going to go through and look at any of that stuff. I don’t remember any of their friends, nor do I care to. So at the end of the day, that thing is going to go bye-bye unless they want it. That’s the kind of stuff I will not keep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I give all my stuff like that to the kids immediately. Yeah, I did too, Larry.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, occasionally you’ll run through something where it’s like, oh, man, I forgot we had this box of whatever that got tucked away back in the back of, you know, wherever. And that’s one thing about moving, by the way. You tend to get rid of stuff when you move so you don’t accumulate near as much over the years. That’s one advantage of moving is you tend to throw some of these things away. And for me, we moved a lot when the kids were little. And so I didn’t have a lot of things we stored because we moved and tossed and moved and tossed. And so I didn’t have a lot of things that we actually ended up storing, which I guess I was very fortunate. All right, we’re going to take another break. We’ll come right back. Don’t go anywhere. Let us know if there’s things you want to add to this topic, by the way, 303-477-5600, like Mark just did. Or you can send a text message, 307-282-22, Fix It Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 06 :
All right, we are back. This is Radio KLZ 560. Myself, Larry Unger, of course, joining us. He’s normally answering phones. Mark Guernsey joining us now. He’ll be with us for Drive Radio as well from Accountable up in Broomfield. Had a text message that came in and said, was a professional organizer at one point, did a lot of hoarders. God bless you, by the way. God bless you. I mean, I mean that sincerely. And gave this tip. You can go to the National Association of Professional Organizers. There’s lots of resources there that will help. on this topic as well. So by the way, thank you so much for that tip. And I did ask this person, too, have we missed anything? Is there anything we need to add to the things that we’re talking about? And I appreciate that, by the way. So we have such a plethora of people with backgrounds, a variety of backgrounds that listen to us that you guys are so resourceful. I’m very appreciative. of that and really quick we’re talking through the break you know back to mark’s comment about the hint of iris and so on uh with the mice and everything yeah be very careful with some of those things and even just for some of you dust and just the junk and some of your allergies may flare up and so on i mean if you need to wear a mask or do whatever you need to do cleaning some of this stuff then Yeah, take the precautions that you need to, especially if you know you. And in some cases, for me, I’m really susceptible to dust, allergic to dust, which is really bad when you’re doing all of this cleaning and such. There are times where I’ll slip a mask on or do something along those lines just to try to keep some of that down because it can get really unbearable at times. John and Cheyenne, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, so my wife and I were getting ready to build a storage closet for all of our gear, like for backpacking and cross-country skiing, stuff like that. In our hold-on garage. And you were saying the containers, the black and yellow ones, are the best because they seal up?
SPEAKER 06 :
They do. In fact, I was looking at those over the weekend, and I’m going to do some of those. Although, I think just because I’m cheap in some ways, not in others, but I am in some ways, those are always on sale at Christmastime. They’ll start to roll in on sale. Actually, they’ll start on sale even before Thanksgiving, John. I’m going to wait and buy some of those then just because. Yeah, they’ll be at Home Depot. They’ll be at Costco. They’ll be at Lowe’s. They’ll be at Walmart. They’ll be all over. And typically in Costco, that’s a one-time-a-year deal where they bring those in at a pretty discounted price. And I’ll wait to buy some at that point. And I have a lot already. All my Christmas lights and things I already store that way. And they are very robust, John, and seal up. And rodents, things like that are not getting into them. The downside is, and this is where I did determine an app, and I’ll share that with everybody before we leave today. But the downside is you can’t see in them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, so you’ve got to label real quick.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’ve got to label them, or I found an app. I might as well mention it right now since we’re talking, John. I’ve played around with it. I’ve got to do some more playing around with it. But I found an app. It’s called Nest Egg. So N-E-S-T-E-G-G, Nest Egg. And it’s pretty robust. It’s actually the point where even a small business could use it to track inventory and things like that. It works very, very well. It’s got the ability to even print out QR codes, barcodes, things like that where you can track what’s inside of each container. If you do some inventory items like with you, John, where you’re like, hey, I want to make sure I always have X on hand, you can actually even put in there that here’s what I want. I’ve used this. I had five. I’ve used two. I’m down to three. When I get to two, I need to make sure I bring in some more. It’s got all of that ability inside of that app, and it’s $5.99 initially, and then there’s different modules you can add on, and if you do every module, you’ll spend, I don’t know, $12 or $15.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, that’s a good idea. So those black and yellow containers, which I also saw some in, I think it was Menards, that looked exactly the same except they were clear with red lids.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. And I don’t think this is my own opinion, because I’ve seen both and I’ve not used the clear ones, but I’ve looked at them and I felt them. And maybe I’m wrong and maybe it’s just my perception, but I don’t think they’re as robust as the black and yellow ones are. Now, here’s a tip on the black and yellow that most people don’t know. Believe it or not, those are proprietary to who’s selling them. In other words. A Costco black and yellow is not the same as a Home Depot black and yellow is not as the same as a Sam’s Club black and yellow, and the lids do not interchange. The tub itself looks exactly the same, but believe it or not, the lids do not interchange, and they don’t stack the same. So my advice on that is when you decide what brand you’re going to use, stick with that one brand.
SPEAKER 07 :
Sounds like a plan. Then the other question I had is, You were saying get it off the floor, but if you have it in those plastic bins, those almost interlock where you can stack one on top of the other. They do.
SPEAKER 06 :
If it were me, just to keep the stuff from getting in and around them and make it easier to clean in and around them, I would at least put them on a couple of 4x4s. I think I would even start my stack on a couple of 4x4s, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you’d take them up off the floor?
SPEAKER 06 :
I would. I would.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that way, I mean, if you want to put a vacuum underneath it and kind of keep things tidy and so on, again, keeping the mice down and so on, that would be one way to do that. I would keep them up off the floor, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I saw online there was a guy that built it where they slide into like a shelf system.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, those are awesome. They actually make pre-built shelf systems. My wife also said, I didn’t know this, those are on sale at Costco right now. I did not know that. She just texted me. So there you go, John. Those right now, those tubs are on sale at Costco.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, so you’re convincing me I need to make a Costco run down to four cars.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and as far as you’re pretty handy, I love those shelf systems those guys put in to where you literally can slide. Instead of stacking those tubs on top of one another, they use a sliding system whereby the tub has the top lip slides on a couple of two-by-fours. They measure everything out just right to where those tubs will slide in, meaning if you want the – third tub from the bottom, instead of taking three tubs on top, maybe there’s seven or eight tubs stacked, you literally can slide that tub out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. The other thing you were talking about, and I heard this years and years ago on a home improvement show, spearmint or peppermint oil repels rodents.
SPEAKER 06 :
It does.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ve been using it for years. It does. So it ain’t cheap if you go buy it, but a few drops go a long way… my wife has done is when we pack up our backpacking equipment for the season, she’ll take a rag and just soak it in spearmint or peppermint oil, throw it in the box.
SPEAKER 06 :
Great idea.
SPEAKER 07 :
Close it up for the year. And the other thing is in the spring, your gear comes out and it smells nice. And they say you should watch what your smells are on the trail, but you don’t want any more than you don’t want bears and stuff like that coming to your camp. You also don’t want rodents trying to eat you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that smell will repel them. Well, John, you have a great day, and I’ll talk to you later.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, appreciate you very much. Thanks for that. And some of you that are handy, yes, you can make those shelving systems yourself to slide those in. Somebody was mentioning the Home Depot brand is really a good brand. I’ve used the Costco brand for… for years and have had no issues with them i switched over my christmas lights and the storage of a while back and i have a lot of christmas lights so i do things a little differently there than probably most so i’ve got you know tubs and tubs and tubs of christmas lights and finally went to that storage system and where i kind of learned this whole yellow and black the tub mechanism, I guess I should say, or the tub way of storing. And, again, the nice thing about those, even to John’s point a moment ago, and I like the idea of keeping things smelling good if that’s what you’re trying to do, but the nice thing about those black and yellow tubs is nothing’s getting into them. They seal up tightly. You’re not going to get rodents or anything along those lines into them. In fact… I’ll go as far as to say they’re pretty dust free. Even they seal up pretty darn well to where you go and open one. There’s not going to be a lot of things inside of them. So how you store them now that again, that comes up, you know, that comes back down to you all and how you want to do that in your organizational environment. abilities and and so on and i i’ve watched some of those guys now here’s the other there’s the other tip there’s all sorts of things on the internet along these lines some of you that have high ceilings in the garage and don’t have a lot of other storage space and you’ve thought maybe i need to put a shed out or do something along those lines believe it or not there are also uh schematics whereby you can make these hanging uh slide rafters i guess you could say into where those tubs will slide in and be up above yes you have to use a ladder to actually get them but you could store a lot of those yellow tubs right off of your ceiling in the garage not using any floor space, not taking up a lot of other space, and, again, having them way up off the floor. And if they’re just something like a Christmas light where you’re using them once a year, it might be something else you think about doing. So those tubs, I mean, I tell you what, whoever decided to invent those things a while back, what a genius idea. They are so much better than a lot of the other storage devices, I guess I should say, that are out there, storage options that are out there. They work great. So for those of you, again, the biggest thing is figuring out what works for you. And there are now so many different types of storage devices, organizers, and so on, that bottom line, just pick something. And then my feeling is at least stick with it. And one of the things that was in my notes from last week we didn’t talk about is once we’re all done, I mentioned this a little bit earlier, but once we’re all done, keep doing this. You can’t just, oh, I got everything cleaned up, and oh, here’s something, I’m just going to stick it in the corner. Well, here’s another item, I’m just going to stick that in the corner. Well, before you know it, there’s six, seven items that are now stuck in the corner if you did all this cleaning. No, this is something that you will have to continue to maintain and stay up on, or it will become the same thing all over again.
SPEAKER 10 :
You just have to change your mindset is all.
SPEAKER 06 :
and and larry is right and you’ve got to stay on this on a daily basis and we’ll talk about this mark knows this a lot with my my business owners and so on because businesses you guys that have your own businesses the same thing happens there you can get into these things that happen at home your business can end up the same way you end up with whatever item and all of a sudden it gets shoved in a corner. Well, then pretty soon another item gets shoved in the corner. Before you know it, there’s five or six items that got shoved in the corner, and those items may not be getting used anymore. And in a business especially, every square inch of the business for space counts, and you may end up with all sorts of junk that you’re now storing that you don’t need. Again, same thing applies to your business that applies to home. If you’re not using it, get rid of it.
SPEAKER 11 :
And honestly, if you do need it, you can’t find it anyway, and you’re going to buy a new one, so why are you keeping it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, Mark. That’s exactly right. It happens all the time. It does. And for some of you, even in your own business, here’s the other recommendation I always give to my owners, especially those of you that have retail businesses. If you’re a different type of business, maybe not quite as important, although I still think it is because of the square footage. Walk in from the customer’s viewpoint. A lot of people come in and out of their back door of their business or they come in a side door. If you own a restaurant, you’ll come in and out of the back door. You rarely come in the front door. Bad idea. You should always walk in and out of the front door of your business and or your home because the same thing happens there. Most people never go in and out of their front door. They go in the garage door. They go in the side door. They go in the back door. And they rarely walk in and out of their front door. What does that look like? If somebody else were walking up to your business or your house, how does it look from their point of view? Because most of the time we don’t look at that. And it’s so important, especially in the business world, because first impressions are huge. So is when you sell a house. So at some point, and I’m always one of these where, you know what, keep everything sellable whether you’re selling or not because you never know when you might have to. So why go through a big process of having to redo things to sell your house when literally you could stick a sign out front, get a realtor, stick a sign out front, and off you go. Always have things ready to go, whether it’s in the business, whether it’s your personal life. All right. I won’t belabor this any longer. If you guys have any questions or tips, please let us know. And I appreciate everybody and all the things that you guys have chimed in on on this particular topic. Thank you very much. Fix It Radio. FixItRadio.com is our website. We’ll be back next week. This is KLZ 560.
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