On today’s show, Bill Gundersen reveals the details of Nebius, an emerging growth portfolio company that has landed a groundbreaking multi-billion dollar AI infrastructure contract with Microsoft. This episode highlights the key financial movements redefining industries, with a particular focus on how AI is propelling traditional markets into new realms. Additionally, find out how GameStop and other market earners are adapting in a rapidly evolving landscape. Don’t miss the final segment where Bill explores Lilly’s AI platform and its potential to revolutionize biotech.
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He’s been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He’s the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He’s president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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Welcome to the Tuesday, it is Taco Tuesday, 9925 edition of the Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only money management firm. I’m here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst, certified financial planner, and Markets up a little bit. Now we’re mixed. The NASDAQ was up. The Dow was down. Now that’s reversed, and it’s the Dow that’s up. But just by 18 points, that puts the Dow at 45,532. It was 3,500 when I got into the business some 25 years ago. Now it’s at 45,532. Actually, that’s been a pretty good investment, investing in the market. The NASDAQ is down three after hitting a new all-time high yesterday. That’s right, a new all-time high. The NASDAQ is closing in on 22,000. I remember when it was like 1,100 after the dot-com bubble burst back in 2000 and 2001. Now we’re at 21,795. It’s down three points today. A big news item there in the AI space today that we’ll get to. The S&P is up two points to 64.97. Small caps are down a quarter of a percent. The bond market is quiet today with the 10-year at 4.05, and gold is hitting another new all-time high. So welcome to today’s Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunnarsson, president of Gunnarsson Capital Management. And I’m here with Barry Kider, chartered financial analyst, certified financial planner. And what does the CMT, is it CMT? Yeah, chartered market technician.
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That’s what I thought. Chartered market technician. Yeah, CFA version of charting, I guess you would say. Yes, that’s good.
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And we do a lot of charting here at Gundersen Capital. In fact, I had an article out on Seeking Alpha yesterday on charting. More importantly, the current charts of the market, which I look at on a daily basis. But on Saturday, I stop with the market closed. Quiet of a Saturday morning and look at all of those charts when they’re static for a change and see what the current shape and general condition is of those charts. Very, very important. Well, we hit a new high in the NASDAQ again yesterday. And we have a big winner today in the NASDAQ. It is an AI stock. It’s in our emerging growth portfolio, and man, the last time I looked, it was up 40%. That emerging growth portfolio is having a very good year here in 2025, and we’ll get to that stock here in a moment. But we’ll take a look at, pick up where we left off yesterday. Really, the market never stops. It really never ends, even though the bell rings at 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. There’s news coming in after the market, throughout the night. China, the Asia markets open at around, I think, midnight our time. The European markets are moving. There’s deals being made around the world. The markets really never sleep anymore. And it ended up being a pretty good day in the market yesterday. The NASDAQ closing at an all-time high. And, of course, gold is really a story. Wow. It’s now, let’s see, is it $3,700 yet? Gold is now at an all-time. Who would have ever thought Trump would have been so good for gold? $3,710. and i want to say that’s the first time now it was just a it was mired in the 18 to 1900 range for the longest period of time and uh for whatever reason trump has been very good for the gold markets and the gold is now 3710
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It was in the trading range for like six months. A long time. It just broke out once it broke above that $3,500 mark, I guess, right at the beginning of September, and it’s just continued to decline since.
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Yeah, the correlation may be the bigger the national debt goes, the higher gold goes. That could be one correlation. World turmoil is another correlation. We don’t see the dollar crashing. That was always supposed to be the reason why gold would go up. Instead, it’s going up on its own volition with a strong U.S. dollar. It is seen as an alternative, along with the cryptocurrencies these days and other things. And, of course, silver has climbed right along with it. Independence of the Fed or non-independence of the Fed seems to be an issue right now. And this whole tariff thing has seemed to excite gold. We learned yesterday that if, if. The Supreme Court deems the Trump tariffs illegal, which I can’t imagine. I don’t know. I mean, it seems like tariffs have been used. They played a big part in the Civil War down here that started in South Carolina, just a few miles from my home. I passed right by it in my boat there at Fort Sumter, and the first shot of the Civil War was fired right there. Tariffs was a big issue back then. Tariffs are still a big issue, but the U.S. would owe up to $1 trillion in refunds. Imagine getting a refund check. Does the consumer get a refund check if I paid a tariff on something? Do I get a check in the mail from Besant, signed by Besant, Barry?
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I hope. I mean, to me, it’s like, you know, I hope we got the trillions still sitting around if they do try to unwind it. You know what I mean? I don’t know. It’s kind of scary. I mean, it’s almost, I’m like, you know, I’m hoping, I’m looking at it and it’s thinking, I don’t know if it’s going to be, I don’t know if the Supreme Court can rule against it.
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against them i mean they haven’t well i mean give up a trillion dollars that shouldn’t be a factor it should be just the legality of it but i would think it would be legal that’s just my opinion just as an outside layman if the court says so we have to do it besson said the refund could be anywhere between 750 billion and one trillion dollars Last week, Trump asked the Supreme Court to quickly accept and rule on an appeal aiming to overturn a lower court ruling that deemed most of the tariffs illegal. And I have a problem with that, and I think most people have a problem with that. These lower courts that seem to be more agenda-driven than anything else. I mean, you can find a judge somewhere who will render a ruling against whatever you want to, you know, whether it’s the immigration issues, the tariff issues. I mean, it goes on and on and on and on and on. So anyways, we will see where that ends up. We do still have earnings coming in. uh this evening tonight we’re going to get oracle oracle has really become a huge player uh in ai they’re making a big play uh and they’re offering uh some i’ve heard on one one of the talk shows oracle was actually running a lot of ads on uh might have been charlie kirk or they’re on they’re on serious radio a lot actually when you know i hear the running ads yeah Yeah, they want to become a big part, and they’re offering big discounts in their own cloud system and everything, I guess going up against Amazon, against AWS. GameStop’s going to report tonight. That’ll be interesting. You know, you’ve got Ryan Cohen now involved in GameStop. And, you know, GameStop is totally changing things. their company if you haven’t noticed they’re really getting into collectibles and uh… which is a big thing you know that is another alternative out there an asset class that is really quite the robust The collectibles, whether it’s Pokemon cards, whether it’s HL locomotives, whether it’s Beatles autographs, which one of my brothers is a big player in that space. GameStop, also with the crypto and everything, they’re going to report after the close tonight. And there’s still a big short interest there in GameStop. But I’m hearing that there’s been a little bit of a revival at the stores as they’re really branching out into other areas. And they grade cards.
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Yes.
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They’ll grade playing cards now. That’s PSA, which grades for them. And I can’t think of his first name. I think it’s Phil. Phil Orlando is the owner of PSA. which grades cards. And Orlando’s also pretty tight with Trump in the whole Trump media and all that kind of stuff. And so they are really kind of reinventing themselves at GameStop. So I can’t badmouth them as much as I used to. And also AeroVironment, a very important drone stock, will report earnings tonight. We’ll be right back. This is the Best Docs Now show.
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I’ll be gone in 500 miles when the day is done.
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And welcome back here to the second quarter of today’s Best Docs Now show. I just saw this one break over the lines here to the news. U.S. added over 900,000 fewer jobs than previously known. Now, most of this was during Biden’s last nine months in office, right? Right. Those numbers were way, way inflated leading up to the election because this goes back to March of 2024.
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And this follows up that other big revision. Remember, there was a revision right after the election that was like 800 or K or something.
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And, you know, they did replace the woman that was in charge of the reporting. with a new guy and i just don’t know how you can be that far off okay nine hundred and eleven thousand revision i mean that’s that’s a well that’s like a million jobs i’ll just send out uh… statements to my clients you know hey you actually made a lot less than i initially reported uh… over the last you can’t do things like that you gotta be accurate what the heck is going on Okay, now some things never change. In 1941, 1941 I’m going to say, yes, my father was 19 years old. He joined the Navy and was a submariner in World War II. And now in my new little job with my church, I meet with kids that are in the Navy and they’re submariners. No wars going on, active wars, but some things never change. Submarines remain a very important part of the military. The problem is China’s rapid submarine advances are sparking an undersea arms race in the Pacific Ocean. And I know China is really ramping up the military, their military. They’re transforming their submarine fleet into one of the world’s most advanced in the world, narrowing the gap with the U.S. and its allies and fueling a new contest beneath the Pacific’s waters. Beijing’s latest submarines, and I’m sure they’ve got a lot of our technology in them, Barry, are quieter, faster, and capable of carrying more sophisticated weapons and sensors. It’s nuclear-powered subs, in particular, extending the Navy’s reach far beyond coastal waters. So anyways, that’s something to think about at night when you lay your head on your pillow. The buildup comes as China conducts drills around Taiwan. And strengthens bases from Liaoning to Hainan. In any conflict, submarines could play a decisive role in controlling maritime choke points and disrupting shipping.
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And the problem is, ours are more technically advanced. The problem is, we just don’t build them. We can’t build them fast enough. Right, exactly.
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We hold a technological edge. And I see ads on TV. BuildSubmarines.com. You can get a job building submarines. We have the stealthier Virginia-class attack subs and new upgrades planned. But anyways, China has the world’s largest shipbuilding industry, something we should be worried about. Run silent, run deep. That’s right. That was a movie. U.S. farm trade deficit hits record as imports surge. So that’s not good for the farmers. The U.S. agricultural trade gap deepened in July, underscoring a mounting challenge for President Trump as he pledges to restore the sector’s global competitiveness. I just wonder how much, you know, my first part of the store, when you walk into a grocery store, it’s the produce section. And I always make my trip through the produce section. I just wonder how much of the lettuce, the tomatoes, the onions, the corn, everything else, the fruit that I’m buying, it doesn’t really say where it’s coming from. But I got to believe that a lot of it, avocados, is coming from outside of America and is not grown anywhere. in that the u s of a so anyways uh… we do have like growing trade deficit You know, everything from soybeans, wheat, you name it. We’re not as competitive in the world markets with our produce and our agriculture as we used to be. Goldman Sachs forecast a positive outlook for U.S. stocks through 2026. Okay, that’s good news. Finally, some good news, Barry. They expect the S&P to rise by 2%. through year-end, and 6% through mid-2026. Well, you know, if you look at my newsletter, probably the two most important areas of that newsletter, number one is the macro outlook, and I think I’m pretty much in line with Goldman Sachs, so I feel like I have pretty good company there. That’s David Koston, pretty well-known strategist. And I think the second most important area of the newsletter is the technical analysis because that’s just a snapshot. That’s a picture. And when you add up all of those little pictures that I comment on in the newsletter every week, it adds up to the big picture. So anyways, they have our return forecast. They have 6,600 by the end of this year. which is just a three-and-a-half little over three months away so not much upside between now and the end of the according to go course the market usually is ahead of itself And they’ve got 6,900 by the middle of next year. And I would just say that I’m pretty much in that same area with my forecast, which are based on what we know about the market, especially the analyst estimates going forward at the current time. With a forward PE of 22 right now in the S&P, we’re in the 90th percentile going back to 1980. And you’ve heard me comment on that many times, that this is one of the most expensive markets that I’ve seen. We’re not quite where we were in the year 2000 before the 79% sell-off in the NASDAQ. But we’re almost there. But the quality of earnings is a lot better today than it was back then. I will say that. But still those valuations do matter. And what’s carrying the markets is momentum. Which means there’s still a lot of demand for stocks. And you’ve got the AI boom. And I do think that we are affording those stocks much higher multiples. than we would. You know, look, the market is more dominated by high tech today. If you look over the last 20 years ago, it was dominated by lower PE stocks for sure. And now you’ve got much higher PE stocks in the AI space, in the semiconductor space, in the high tech space. So maybe you can justify a 22 multiple in today’s world.
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Yeah, I mean, financials were a big part of that multiple in the past, and of course, we know what happened to them in 08-09.
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Yeah, and the financials historically carry mid-teens multiples, and of course, the railroads and the… you know, things like that, the transportation stocks. You know, we have tech dominating the indexes today, and they traded higher multiples. When we come back, we have the biggest winner in the market today, as far as I know. It’s in the AI space, and it’s in our emerging growth portfolio. We’ll talk about that in the second half of the show. This is the Best Stocks Now show. Best. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today’s Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today’s Best Stocks Now show.
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Nebius Group. Nebius, N-B-I-S, is the stock of the day. It’s a data infrastructure, data center infrastructure stock. And, you know, when I teach the workshops, I kind of go through going back to the old CAN SLIM strategy of what each letter in CAN SLIM stands for, C-A-N-S-L-I-M. And then I don’t stop there. The other half of that equation, which CAN SLIM leaves out, is valuation. And I also do a pretty big segment on valuation during the workshop, too. But that C comes into play here with Nebius, okay? Nebius is, let’s see, when did they go public? They’ve been around for a while. They’re based in the Netherlands. But, you know, they’re in a very good space. Infrastructure. Infrastructure to AI builders. It takes a lot of infrastructure, we’re learning, and a lot of energy. And that’s where the nuclear stocks come into play. But the C stands for current earnings. And I’m talking growth. And this is quarterly earnings. The A in canceling stands for annual growth. But quarterly growth is very important. As we look, every 90 days companies report earnings, which includes their sales, sales and earnings. Nebius does not have the symbol as NBIS. It’s now a $21 billion company with today’s move. They don’t have earnings yet, but they have just explosive sales growth, okay? And that’s what I saw in CoreWeave a while back when they came public. I said, look at the sales growth of CoreWeave. That’s just got to translate into earnings growth at some point in time. Nebius has that same dynamic. Look over the last four quarters at Nebius.com. Sales growth up 766%, up 466%, up 346%, up 322%. That’s their last four quarters. That’s their year-over-year sales growth, not earnings growth. The earnings aren’t there yet, but sales growth. That is the very epitome of what the C in CAN SLIM stands for, although the C in CAN SLIM really is towards earnings. But I also look at sales growth as a precursor. So hopefully someday, when you have sales growth like that, Barry, eventually you’re going to surpass your overhead and get ahead of things and start dropping money to the bottom line, I would think.
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Yeah, and they’ve got an interesting, I mean, they’re really an interesting company over time. Like you said, now they’re headquartered in the Netherlands. They were a Russian company and actually had to cut all of their ties with Russia after the Ukraine war. And if you look at their chart, they were basically flat for a long period of time as they were trying to cut some of the, you know, get rid of the Russian part of their, you know, assets and then have, you know, moved the headquarters to the Netherlands. And, you know, they’re back, you know, back kind of a survivor story, if you will.
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Well, they get a $17.4 billion contract to provide AI infrastructure to a little company named Microsoft. Over the next five years. So that obviously is a big deal. And they’re, I mean, if they don’t already have sales growth, this is a huge, I mean, they only have in sales over the last 12 months, 70, 120, they have 220 million in sales. 220 million in sales. To get a $17.4 billion contract, contract is like wow so that’s going to make that sales growth even better than it already is let’s hope it translates into earnings but this is a massive deal and you know look this is down in our emerging growth portfolio this is a very select list of just 18 stocks it’s one of the four portfolios that I manage here at Gundersen Capital. And, you know, with today’s move in Nebius, this emerging growth portfolio is going to be up a little over 20% for the year to date. But you’ve got to look at it in all of the different disclaimers. This is the most aggressive one. It has stocks like Astera Labs and others. The drone stock, AeroVironment, which reports tonight. And it’s got MP Materials, the rare earth stock. It’s got Rocket Labs. We’ve had some huge wins in there with CoreWeave over the years. That’s where the one that went into the S&P 500 was, AppLovin’. And now we’ve got today, we’ve got NBIS, which we bought June 26th of this year. I got back into it, actually. We owned it before, and then during that whole tariff scare, I backed out of it, then got back in it at $52 a share. And today it’s hitting $87 a share on this news. But, I mean, that is a massive contract. I can’t understand.
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Yeah, to show how big it is, I mean, the market cap of the company is $15 billion. And so this one contract is over that and I think it could go up to $19 billion at some point. Yeah. I mean, that’s a huge deal, and as you always say, stocks follow earnings. Eventually, like you said, this revenue should turn into some bottom-line earnings, and that’s why the stock’s got a 36% pop today.
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Yeah, they follow sales, too. I mean, stocks follow sales. I mean, this stock would not be a $21 billion company today if the stock had not been following just the sales growth of the company. Which, you know, that’s the precursor. Like I say, it’s pretty rare that a company with sales growth like that doesn’t eventually turn the corner and start being very profitable. I have seen it happen before, but that’s, again, pretty rare. And AI continues to drive the bus, and it’s becoming more and more of a big thing, I think, on a daily basis. And, of course, we’ve been in it for a long, long time. I mean, NVIDIA, how long have we owned NVIDIA? And really, when AI crossed the line, to me, the first shot of the AI revolution was It was not at Fort Sumter, nor was it at Fort Moultrie, too, which was where we propelled the British fleet back in the 1700s. I like living here. We’re kind of rebellious here in South Carolina. We’ve got a little bit of a rebel spirit. freedom type of spirit here on the wando river but anyways for me i remember the day we did the show and chat gpt became available to the public by microsoft And all of a sudden, we could use, AI was, what’s the word when it goes out to the… Yeah, adoption. Yes, the regular guy could now use AI. And that was really, and then we found out what was underneath that chat GPT. Now, OpenAI is not a publicly traded company. But NVIDIA certainly was, and the networking stocks, Arista Networks was down there underneath driving it, and Taiwan Semiconductor, and ASM Lithography. And then guess what? I think really the second part of that revolution is when Microsoft signed the deal with Constellation Energy, Three Mile Island, of all things, doesn’t have the best of reputation, and bought all of that nuclear power over the next 20. That set off the nuclear revolution, and we’re off to the races, and AI is really… Well, in my lifetime, I’ve seen the PC revolution, the networking revolution, obviously the phone revolution. Yeah, smartphone. And now, I mean, this whole AI thing is a whole other revolution, maybe the biggest one ever. Wow.
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March of 2023, because it was kind of when that took off, because you had Silicon Valley Bank went under at the beginning of March 2023, and then what kind of took that news cycle away from that was Chad GPT.
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Yes, that was, to me, the official first shot fired. in the AI revolution. And guess who’s putting it to work? And this stock is starting to really firm up. Not only did they have good news last week with the new development in their blockbuster drug, but now they’re starting an AI platform for biotech firms. And this stock really perking up again. We’ll talk about that when we come back. It’s the Best Docs Now Show. And welcome back here to the final segment of today’s Best Docs Now show. Lily. is really starting to shape up once again. Pardon the pun. And the weight is falling off. Hundreds and hundreds, thousands of pounds and tonnage are leaving America and bodies all over the world from Lilly’s ZepBound drug. Now Lilly, of course, they’re on the cusp maybe of a pill. to replace the shot in the stomach, I think that would be a big boost. It seems to me like Lilly’s kind of won the race over Novo Nordisk, Wagovi. I don’t know why, but Lilly seems to have gained a big market share over Novo Nordisk. And now they’re launching an AI platform called ToonLab for biotech firms. I can see, you know, clinical research takes massive amounts of data. You start getting into genetic research and all of this kind of stuff. The computing power and the data that has to be analyzed and everything like that seems to me like AI would be very, very useful. in the drug industry. So Lilly has a proprietary data platform valued at over a billion dollars that they’re going to let biotechs tap into to speed up drug discovery. Lilly really is trading at a pretty decent multiple now. It would represent a relative value.
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at the current time it it has not performed well i mean it’s down last time i looked it was down 20 percent year to date well in the administration that we talk you and i talk about it a lot um you know behind the scenes it’s just obviously the uh the administration in terms of wanting to reduce drug prices right i think that’s you know kind of been the overhang probably uh to the name because you know drug wise they’re afraid of trump they’re nailing it you know what i
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Yeah, the stock is afraid of Trump and what he might do to their drug price. He wants them to bring down the price of Zepbound to whatever the lowest price is in the world that people are paying. And that’s definitely the overhang over the stock. But, man, their earnings growth over the last four quarters, 999%, 114%, 29%, and 61%. They made a record haul of earnings in this last quarter of $6.31 per share. They’re expected to make $22.82 per share this year. Take that, Pfizer and Merck. And Johnson & Johnson and all you others, Bristol-Myers, that seemingly have very little of a pipeline of drugs like Lilly’s, let alone the sales growth that Lilly has. So anyways, Lilly’s interesting here. at this price level. Volkswagen turns to AI. They’re investing a billion dollars to cut costs and boost competitiveness. Of course, they need to do something. They’re hurting quite badly at Volkswagen. And I don’t know where they lay on the tariffs. I guess they come under the European tariffs of 15%. Japan’s cars are 15%. And South Korea’s are 25%. South Korea did not help their cause any by having those illegal South Korean workers working a big chunk of the work there in Georgia. At Hyundai. At Hyundai. That hit the national news last night. Bitmine. Okay, this is the one we talked about, Bitmine Immersion Technologies. Their crypto and cash holdings now exceed more than $9.2 billion. So that’s something new. I mean, they’re taking money given to them by investors and buying Bitcoin. I mean, this is a recent IPO. Of course, MicroStrategy has been doing that for quite some time. But this BitMine Immersion BMNR was on fire yesterday along with the stock that they’d made the investment in. And Octo, O-C-T-O, was up like 3,000% yesterday. Cathie Wood is a big player. If you believe in Cathie Wood, B-M-N-R, she’s a big player in that one. Uber and Sephora partner to deliver beauty products across North America. What else can be delivered to your door? I thought Sephora was already part of Amazon, but I guess not. And I know Uber’s also delivering for Home Depot and Lowe’s these days. They are, yep. Along with the meals from restaurants, along with delivering you to the airport and back. And Uber Freight is out there somewhere. And Uber continues to be a big player in many facets of today’s world.
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Yeah, you sent that bond offering that they’re creating. I mean, they’re an investment-grade company, and they’re raising, what, $2 billion in debt?
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Yeah. Now, I saw that they were doing a bond offering, and we do run an individual bond portfolio. I’m not a big believer in bond funds at all. They’ve underperformed by a wide margin, huge margin over time. I mean, the compound interest on what you’re losing by owning a bond fund as opposed to the individual bonds is huge. And I would have great interest in that Uber bond. Now, we don’t have details on it yet. I’m going to guess 5.5%.
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Well, and I looked up some of their current bonds that are out there, and the yields on something in the 10-year range right now for their bonds is somewhere around 4%. No, no, I don’t want that.
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I can get that in a U.S. Treasury.
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Yeah, right.
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So you don’t think that it’s going to be a very attractive coupon yield then?
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Yeah, I mean, it says 10-year. I think it’s a 10-year note, and they’re expecting it to be about a percent over a treasury. Well, then that’s five. Maybe in that 5% range. Yeah, potentially.
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Well, you know, there’s a lot of people out there. You know, they’ve told me over the years, Bill, I’d be happy just earning 5% or 6% a year without a lot of risk. And, you know, then I think that individual bonds are the way to go, a portfolio of those. All right, well, we’re out of time. To reserve a spot, we’ll be next Tuesday night. I’ll be teaching. I’ll be in Santa Clara teaching a workshop just down the street from Nibius and NVIDIA and Astera Labs and all of these great AI stocks and chip stocks and tech stocks. To reserve a spot to that, we did get a bigger room, gundersoncapital.com, gundersoncapital.com or 855-611-BEST to set up an appointment with one of our advisors here. Give us a call. Give Edie a call at 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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