Join John Rush as he tackles Health and Wellness Wednesdays, offering insights into living your best life through informative discussions. From understanding our fears in a challenging world to addressing food safety issues like the recent listeria outbreak, this episode promises to be both enlightening and engaging. Plus, received tips on enhancing home efficiency and value from industry experts.
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All right. Welcome. Health and Wellness Wednesday on this fine October the 1st. A beautiful day, by the way, here in Colorado. Hopefully you’ve been out and enjoyed it, which, by the way, is, in my opinion, part of health and wellness in and of itself. I love this time of the year. One of my favorite. times for various reasons but i love this just the weather the temperature everything we get right now is is uh why we live in colorado by the way so possible question of the day from yesterday which composer’s final symphony is known as the choral symphony that would be beethoven it is the symphony number nine did you know that charlie now that i’ve said that probably i don’t know i’m not a classical music guy so you’re talking to the wrong guy sorry and i’m probably I don’t know if I’d get in trouble for saying that, but just… And I know some people are really into it. Not me. Just not my type of music. And I know some of you are probably thinking, yep, I could have figured that, but yeah, not my kind of music. Now, for some… Some, not all. For some, that’s very relaxing, and some people really get into it, and it’s a part of their health and wellness end of things. So I think that’s why Producer Anne even put that question in yesterday to answer today, going along with health and wellness. So for some, that is a part of your wellness walk, I guess I could say. Today’s impossible question. Answer this again on our Facebook page. Which American hockey team made history in 1917 by becoming the first U.S. team to win the Stanley Cup? All you hockey fans would probably know this. Which American hockey team made history in 1917 by becoming the first U.S. team to win… the Stanley Cup. So that is the question of the day today, and I appreciate Producer Ann putting all those together, and those of you that participate and answer questions and so on, appreciate that. It’s a lot of fun, and I look forward to them each day. I’ve learned a lot from the questions of the day, by the way, so thank you, Producer Ann, again, for doing that. Okay, and just some news. This does involve health and wellness, because anytime there’s an outbreak of something, it can have ill effect. In this case, it definitely does. There’s been a listeria outbreak from recalled frozen meals sold at Trader Joe’s and Walmart that has left four dead and 19 in the hospital. Typically, you hear of people having, you know, food poisoning and some things along those lines. Rarely do we ever hear about people dying because of recalled foods. But in this case, it is. So they have recalled certain foods. frozen foods sold at Trader Joe’s and Walmart. These are ready-to-eat meals containing pasta that may have been contaminated by listeria. The recall includes market-side linguine and beef meatballs and marinara sauce sold at Walmart in 12-ounce trays with a best-if-used-by dates of September 22nd, 24th, 25th, 29th, 30th, and today, October 1st. This recall, by the way, was put out back in June, but some people just throw these things in the freezer and leave them and don’t think about it. It also covers Trader Joe’s Cajun-style blackened chicken breast fettuccine Alfredo with the best, if used, dates of September 20th, 24th, 27th. So an update by the CDC on Friday showed the outbreak has led to 20 cases, including 19 hospitalizations and four deaths. The outbreak also spans 15 states. So I don’t know if these were sold here. I didn’t dig into all of the particular UPCs and so on and where they were at. So that’s something that you probably should go and check on for yourself if you’re somebody that actually buys that type of a meal. We don’t, so this personally doesn’t affect me because I’m not a big frozen dinner type guy. But for a lot of people, they are. For a lot of you that are even single or it’s just you and your wife, like my wife and I, sometimes you’ll buy frozen meals and use them in that way. But in my case, I’m not a big frozen food guy person. so at any rate check your freezer if you’ve had any of these types of meals that you have bought in the past double check again the use by dates and so on and by the way this is This is pretty well known. This came across several of my feeds because, again, of the heightened awareness of people dying and so on. So, again, double-check that. And this is something we don’t talk much about. Probably should talk about it more. Whenever there’s a food recall, frankly, probably more important than vehicle recalls in a lot of cases because – For certain people, they can really be susceptible to certain things that would come up when it comes to food poisoning and food problems and so on. So this is actually, in my opinion, a bigger deal in a lot of cases than what you’ll find with your car. There was a shrimp recall. I didn’t talk about this last week, but there was just recently a shrimp recall. for some heavy metals and different things in that particular brand of shrimp it was frozen shrimp so anytime these food recalls out yes we should be paying close attention to them making sure that we are you know abiding by and i don’t know frankly i’ve never been involved in a food recall as to do you get your money back do you just take these back in do you throw them away and get some sort of a refund i mean i’m assuming there’s a process there i personally Have you ever been through one of these, Charlie, where you actually take food back and get – he hasn’t either. I never have. So, frankly, this is a new one on me. Listeria, by the way, is particularly harmful to people that are age 65 and older, as well as people who are pregnant or people with weakened immune systems. It can spread from the gut to other parts of the body, causing a severe condition known as invasive listeriosis. So they recommend that people who are vulnerable to listeria should contact a health care provider immediately if they have symptoms like headaches, stiff neck, confusion, loss of balance, and convulsions, as well as fever, muscle aches, and tiredness. So, again, especially if you’re pregnant, please contact a health care provider immediately. as well. And I didn’t see anywhere in this article as to do you get reimbursed or whatever. That part, you’ll have to do some research on that because I don’t know how that part works. If you do know how that works and you’ve experienced this before, send me a text message and I’ll explain that to folks as well as to how that works because that, frankly, again, as I said a moment ago, I’ve never had that happen. So if you’re somebody that’s had familiarity with that and you want to help other listeners with that, and keep in mind, We have people that listen to this program all over the country. 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All right, somebody also mentioned a text line that Walmart said today. I did notice this. Thank you for reminding me, by the way, that Walmart said today that all of their private label food will remove artificial colors. Also, somebody says, so John Rush doesn’t eat TV dinners. Not anymore. I did as a kid. In fact, as a kid, when my mom or dad would be working late or whatever and we’d have to fend for ourselves, I loved the Salisbury steak. What were those? Hungry Man Dinners, Charlie? Is that what they were called? Hungry Man Dinners, a Salisbury steak. The potatoes were awful. I loved the little Salisbury steak and gravy. And I never did like the little fruit in the tin. It was always, I don’t know, never cared for the fruit. And if it had peas, I’m not a pea eater, so I didn’t eat the peas. But I’d eat the Salisbury steak and some of the mashed potatoes. The mashed potatoes always tasted like cardboard with something on them, gravy or whatever they called that. I am guessing, I never went back to look to see, but I’m guessing those probably, Charlie, were not very healthy. Oh, and add butter. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, thank you, Charlie. Yeah, I loved those as a kid. And maybe they’re healthier than even some of the stuff today because you put those in the oven. You had to warm them in the oven because we didn’t have microwaves. They came in an aluminum plate, I guess you would call it, with aluminum top. And you had to kind of, you know, you guys all know, you had to lift one corner up a little bit so that as it heated up, it didn’t blow the top off. But they were pretty easy, and actually, I enjoyed them. I think the Hungry Man’s, you got two patties. Did you not, Charlie, with the Hungry Man’s, you got two patties instead of one, I want to say, the TV dinners? I think that’s how that worked. Man, you guys are taking me a long way back in time, even before the invention of microwaves. Some of the young people listening are like, what? There was a time there were no microwaves? Yep. There was. TV trays, you put that little, yeah, you’d get the aluminum TV tray out and unfold that bad boy, and you’d put your TV dinner on top of the TV tray, and you’re in front of the TV eating. That’s how it worked. And yeah, for a lot of you young people, yes, there was a time in my lifetime, for a long time. I mean, I don’t think, I think, Charlie, I helped my folks buy our, you know, I was a weird kid, but… I helped my folks because they were super expensive back in the day. I helped my family buy the first microwave that we had. It was a radar range. That was the actual brand name back then. It was a MANA radar range. And I remember, Charlie, I think the first one we bought that I helped my folks with, I paid half, and it was like $900 or something, I want to say. If I remember, I paid like $450 or $500 towards that thing. Oh, yeah, Charlie said they were ginormous. You had to buy the microwave stand to actually put them on that kind of sat back in its own little area because the stinking things weighed, you know, it was like buying a boat. They were huge. Anyways, I’m digressing, but yeah, back before microwaves existed, we had TV dinners, and that’s what you ate if you had to. So, all right, now this is a weird story. Somebody, one of you listeners sent me this. I didn’t find this one on my own. And you’ll know why as I go through this story as to why I didn’t find this on my own. But this is from Red State. It says, Britain’s National Health Service pushes the benefits of first cousin marriages. Now, I was always under the impression that you really didn’t want to get too close to home on who you married because of some of the, quote-unquote, ill effects health-wise. And everything I was taught growing up was that was just one of those things that was a no-no. You just didn’t do that. That’s where sort of that old, you know, talking about inbreeding and so on comes from is, you know, cousins marrying and just weird stuff that happens. And I always was under the impression that you wanted to stay away from that. But in the episode of the United Kingdom Continues to Sink Deeper into the Abyss. as if the goings-on in the once great United Kingdom weren’t already a dumpster fire, which they are, Britain’s National Health Service recently posted a report on an alleged study promoting the benefits of first-cousin marriages. This story goes on to say, I’d comment on centuries of inbreeding in the UK, including King Henry VIII in 1540, changing the law to allow first cousin marriages so he could marry Catherine Howard, but that would be a serious digression. So let’s not get into the nitty gritty. Last week, the NHS, England’s genomics… Education program actually published guidance that said first cousin marriages is linked to stronger extended family support systems and economic advantages. They also forgot to mention the fact that it doubles the risk of genetic defects. Just this is me talking, not the story itself, not the article. That’s just plain weird. I’m sorry. That’s weird. I actually knew a couple that were first cousins that got married, and I always thought, weirdest thing ever. I mean, to me, that’s just too close to home. But, I mean, I guess – I don’t think, by the way, in the United States of America, I don’t think it’s against the law. I think you can. You can be first cousins and get married here in the U.S. I don’t think that’s looked upon very highly, but – you can, I believe, legally speaking, get married. So the 2022 study found that while unions produce just 4% of UK births, they account for 30% of birth defects. And a larger study in 2013 reveals that 37% of babies born with birth defects were from Pakistani first cousin marriages, also 37 times higher than the UK’s national national average. Needless to say, the National Health Service’s promotion of first cousin marriage has immediately faced a serious blowback on social media for prioritizing cultural sensitivity, pandering to Muslims over significant health concerns as America’s closest ally intentionally continues to sink ever deeper into the abyss. So evidently. They put this publication out or this study out just to pander to the Muslims who I guess think it’s okay to have first cousin marriages. I didn’t know that was a popular thing there. Did you know that, Charlie? No, he didn’t know that either. I was not aware of that. Learn something new every day. Gives new meaning to, you know, you’re a redneck if you go to the family reunion to pick up chicks. Now that’s happening in Britain. Just as a side note. Don’t the Brits seem like they’re always the arrogant ones where, you know, their way is the only way and they always look down upon us as, you know, Americans, which I’ve talked about that before. Typically, as Americans travel around, I get it. They’re not always the most behaved. They can be very rude and crude and not behave like they should. Yeah, Charlie said they’re aristocrats. I can’t even say the name. Tells you I’m not one. Aristocrats. Aristocats? Aristocrats. The cartoons were cats. There we go. At any rate, I’ve always felt like the European folk, Britain especially, really looked down on United Kingdom, really looked down on us in America. You know, this isn’t something that I think I’d be proud of. And again, I do think that this particular article is correct. I think this is one of those things where they’re pandering to their Muslims, not Muslim friends, quote unquote, that have immigrated into Great Britain, UK, and they’re just doing their best to pacify those individuals. Because evidently, and again, I learned this today, I didn’t know that this was a big deal among the Muslim belief system. You notice I didn’t call it a religion. It’s a belief system. So at any rate, I just begin, and I did put this in health and wellness on purpose, and thank you whoever sent this to me. I appreciate it. I did put it into health and wellness because it fits. And I don’t, again, there’s, as the study talks about, higher chance of birth defects, 37 times higher in UK, by the way, But there’s a 30% birth defects in UK from first cousin marriages are 30% of their birth defects. That’s high, folks. So 3 out of 10. That’s a big number. Where typically it’s only 4%. It’s 4% of the births, by the way, but 30% of the birth defects. Yes. So your chances of having issues with offspring by being married to a first cousin significantly increase. I didn’t get into looking at AI or any of the other research that’s out there to determine, you know, what’s that like on a worldwide basis or here in the United States? What’s that on a national basis? I don’t think here there’s too many studies on that because you don’t find a lot of them. Maybe in other parts of the country you might, but here in Colorado, I think it’s pretty rare to find first cousins that are married. Now, to each his own. I guess if that’s something that you like and you’re into, you know, I guess more power to you. And I wouldn’t advise it, though, especially if you plan on having kids. I wouldn’t advise it. I don’t think that’s the healthiest thing. I think you could do much better in other ways. Now, I guess if you don’t plan on having kids and you want to whatever, okay, I guess knock your socks off. I’m not shocked by this because anymore I read so many things on a daily basis that there’s not too much that shocks me, especially in the health and wellness end of things because I read a lot of things for this particular hour each week, and I’m to the point anymore where not too much shocks me. But I didn’t know there was actually studies out there that Great Britain was actually promoting this. Keep in mind, the study is pushing the benefits of first cousin marriages. Not telling people what the risks might be, but promoting the benefits of. And I just went through the fact that there really aren’t any. And I would even go as far as to say I don’t understand how this would even be monetarily speaking an advantage. I mean, getting married and having a household has certain expenses that come with it, whether you’re marrying your first cousin or not. I don’t see how there’s any advantage there. I guess you invite less people to the wedding. Maybe that’s an advantage. I don’t know. But other than that. I mean, it’s all family at that point, maybe a few friends, but typically it’s just going to be mostly family. So maybe there’s a savings there. But outside of that, I don’t see how there’s any benefits. So at any rate, we’ll have that in our notes. If you want to read this article, feel free. Not recommended to marry your first cousin. Let’s just say that. Ridgeland Auto Brokers. If you’re looking for a new used car, they have got you covered. I know I say that a lot, but I mean that. They’ve got the ability to find a car. If you don’t know what you’re looking for, they can help you with that as well. They can advise you on the type of car to buy. If they don’t have a car in inventory, they can do their best to find that car for you. They go to all of the auctions. They’ve got all sorts of outlets on ways to buy cars and so on. 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All right, and we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Somebody texted me the exact same joke that I just said on air a moment ago. And, yeah, thank you, by the way, for that. I appreciate that. I know someone who married their second cousin, and we always still joke that their two kids, their two defective kids are inbred. Yes, I’m a terrible person. Yes, you are. But that’s still pretty funny, actually. I would be doing the same thing, by the way, so don’t feel bad. It’s just – sorry, folks. It’s just weird. It’s just too weird. Somebody’s laughing at my it’s too close to home as well. Sent me a picture. That is hilarious. Absolutely. Okay. At any rate. And somebody actually commented on the whole frozen food thing and how that’s probably not your healthiest choice in general, and you are most likely correct in that. So, yeah, I would just stay out of that aisle if I were you. All right, our next guest, Dr. Toby Watson, joining us now. Dr. Watson, welcome. How are you? hi i’m doing great nice to hear your voice nice to hear from you we appreciate it very much our topic today and i promo this is we are at a mental health crisis we see this we are i believe also at a tipping point anxiety is soaring prescriptions are handed out faster than ever the question we have and this is what you’re going to answer is is there an alternative absolutely without question we know that we’re seeing upwards of 20 percent of kids
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taking psychotropic medications. The average visit to any MD for absolutely anything, 10% leave with a psychiatric medication and 60% leave with two medications. What happened was, you know, back in the day, a great friend of mine who used to be the American Psychological Association president, Nick Cummings, Dr. Cummings did a study. And in 1990, he found that out of all the people that would go in for a mental health condition, only 10% got put on medication. And then 90% got referred out for a specialist, like a therapist or a counselor or nutrition or some sort of other testing. And he did the study 10 years later in 2000. And what do you think happened? It was the exact opposite. It was 90% got put on a medication and only 10% actually got referred to a behavioral or mental health specialist. And back in the day, we used to be pretty effective, and we were doing better than we are now. Harvard did a study not that long ago and said that we’re worse now than we were in 1900. Wow. We’re rated 26th out of 30 countries for children’s mental health.
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Okay, so dumb question on my part. So literally in a decade, we reversed it. We went from 1090 to 9010. So this is a question that I don’t have an answer to, but I talk about it quite a bit. I seem to ask people this question on a routine basis. I don’t know that I’ve gotten a solid direct answer yet. Why? Why are we at this point today? What’s causing this?
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Well, it’s multifaceted. I mean, one, we have a breakdown in the family unit. So that by itself is where it starts. I mean, again, we’re a byproduct of our upbringing. We are what we eat or what we see and breathe and read. So if you don’t have a parental mom-dad diet kind of going for the kids, they don’t have real good safety, faith, protections, and ego strength. So that’s where it starts. From there, we now have a school system that, you know, the children serve the function of the school versus the school serving the function of children. Agreed. So we’ve got to change that. I agreed with my friend Charlie Kirk in saying that, you know, we need to start homeschooling more. Absolutely. If you would have asked me that 10, 12 years ago, I would have said, no, don’t do it.
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And by the way, you and I are, we are 100% in agreement on that because I was with you in that same way, although today I’m not. Yeah. Yep.
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Exactly. Exactly. And I think so that’s number two. Number three, and we know this to be true, the drug companies are there for profit. They’re not there to help us. They’re there for profit. And I’ve been involved in enough big high-profile cases where billions of dollars are at stake. And they are. I mean, they put profit over people. And we’re seeing this time and time again. They’re very happy to make those profits and get people addicted to these drugs for life. And so in doing so, they start to control the curriculum of our young children. They start to write little stories and fairy tales and stuff like that for children to read, to indoctrinate them in the idea that mental suffering is biological and it’s an illness and that you have to use a medical treatment. I think we need to change that narrative. so that people understand that, no, it’s not a chemical imbalance, despite about 78% of the public believing that it is caused by chemical imbalances. So I think that’s a big change. So one is, again, the greed and the profit. Two is the breakdown of the family unit. Three, we have a socialization that has completely radically changed. I think the Internet and social media has allowed academic bullying to happen. I’m sorry, not academic bullying, although that happens too. I think that, you know, having less screen time and getting back to nature, exercise is massive. I mean, kids are much more obese now. It’s interesting. In the United States, we have an obesity problem and a hunger problem, which is really bizarre.
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I know. Go figure.
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Because we’ve got the most obese people, and we’ve got people who really are struggling, you know, with eating disorders and getting food, or I should say at least healthy food.
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There you go. Good answer. Yes. Yeah. And by the way, I can’t disagree with any single thing you said. And by the way, I don’t think it is any single thing. I think it’s a combination of all of what you just said. And I want to add one more thing, and I’m guessing from what I’ve already heard from you, you would agree with me. The spiritual component of this, which I had a listener the other day text me, and I couldn’t disagree with him, and his comment was, you know, I don’t see as many families with kids in church like I once did, and I wonder if that’s part of where we’re at with some of what’s going on. And not saying, you know, by any means, I want to make sure that I’m clear on this, I’m not saying, Dr. Watson, that church is the end-all and the fix-all because they have issues just like any other organization would have, but that whole spiritual component going back to the family unit and the raising of, that’s a big factor as well, I think.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. And there’s research to support that time and time again. When we have people coming into, again, I used to run a free clinic here in my hometown and I do quite a bit of research and testimony around the country. And that’s one of the number one static variables. When I ask and do a risk assessment or a psychological assessment, I’m looking for what spirituality and or religious affiliation do you have? And I can tell you without question that people who have the most severe mental illness and are struggling in that way, they end up having a breakdown within their relationship with God. They simply don’t have it. And unfortunately… you know, it has been a bit by design.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, it is. That’s the Marxist movement. That is directly by design. Absolutely, Dr. Watson, 100%.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that’s not to get too political, but… Oh, no, no.
SPEAKER 10 :
In my opinion, that’s not even politics. That’s just reality. That was by design some 60, 70, actually probably started 100 years ago, but that is 100% by design. That’s not political. That’s just the way it is.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it became political because the liberal more, you know, and I’ll say far-left movement started to adopt it, and they realized, even within the African-American community during the 60s, that in order to break down the African-American community in some way, you really needed to remove the family unit, which was one of the most structural, sound things they had, and religion. And so by incentivizing single mothers to say, hey, you can have children, we’ll incentivize you to have children, we’ll pay you, you know, if there’s not a father in the home, They were able to actually break that family unit down and then in turn break some of the religious affiliation and faith that they had. And then obviously the drugs had gotten put into it as well. And people don’t realize that this has been by design to really remove that middle class to have kind of the oligarch upper class, which is allowed to have their money by whatever supreme entity is running. the show, and then ultimately have wonderful workers down at the absolute bottom, and nothing really in the middle that could potentially challenge the supreme being, whoever that might ultimately be in whatever country you’re talking about, whether it be like Venezuela or China or Russia. And America is really at a very vulnerable place because of that, and it does all tie together.
SPEAKER 10 :
It does. You’re right. No, it absolutely does. As you can tell, you’re in very good company with what you’re thinking and saying and what you’ve researched. And I am not a clinical psychologist, but I’ve been able to sit back and been on air for over a decade now and just watching these things and doing these interviews and just watching where we’re going culturally speaking. And And it’s scary. I don’t know how else to say it, Dr. Watson. It’s scary because, to your point, we are at a point where the minute somebody has any kind of a, you know, quote-unquote mental challenge, we’re doing, in my opinion, we’re doing this completely backwards.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct, without question. And if you look at, you know, countries that utilize less, like, psychotropic medication, and they see it as more of a spiritual, integrated, you know, biological, spiritual, you know, holistic and… experiential, you know, from your conditioning when they like that left Finland, for example, which is a very isolated community, but you know, they like schizophrenia or psychosis, it’s about 1% across the population, wherever you go in the world. But it’s interesting, they have, you know, upwards of 80 to 90% success rate, and they only use 16% of their population ever go on a medication. And so we’ve got to look at those places and those countries and say, how are they achieving such success when we’re using six times the amount of mental health services as any other developed country, and yet we’re ranked one of the worst. We have more mass violence. Again, we’re only 5% of the world’s population. We have roughly 35% to 40% of all the mass shootings. We’re using all the drugs, and our mental health is in the tank. And I think part of it is that there’s this Marxist movement That really comes down to if you can get young children indoctrinated to the idea that they don’t have control of themselves, that it’s biological and they’ve got to take these drugs, and the government’s going to protect you. And again, Medicare and Medicaid are the biggest buyers of these medications. I just did a study with a group looking at 35 or roughly 35 states, and we looked at exactly how much money are we spending on Medicaid for children under the age of 18. And unfortunately, Wisconsin, my hometown state, was the highest per child out of all of these states. And we ended up spending, back in 2023, about $106 million on the Medicaid program. And we’re talking about giving stimulants and antipsychotics and mood stabilizers to, like, infants. We’re talking zero to nine months old. It’s absolutely sick what they’re doing. It really is child abuse.
SPEAKER 04 :
I had no idea.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and unfortunately, almost all the states are doing it. And, you know, these drug companies are targeting these doctors.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, I’ve got to stop for just a minute. Under what guise? In other words, what’s their excuse for, I mean, you’ve got a child this young. What excuse are they using to give these kids these drugs?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, yeah. I’ve been involved in court cases, and I’ve talked with these doctors. And so there’s, you know, one rationale is that, hey, mom is addicted to these SSRIs or antidepressants or whatever anxiety drugs. And the baby’s born. And again, these drugs pass through the placenta into the baby. So the baby’s addicted and intoxicated on the drugs, just like mom is. So baby comes out, and now there’s no more, you know, drugs. So the baby starts to have, you know, some real problems because it’s going through withdrawal reactions. And so the doctors, some of them are saying, hey, let’s just put them on a very, very low dose so that they don’t have this withdrawal reaction. So that’s one. And that one I can almost justify. in a way, if it’s truly going to end up causing some sort of discontinuation syndrome, we call it, or some sort of real psychosis, rebound psychosis. However… The other group are these doctors who are literally just saying, hey, mom was diagnosed bipolar or severe depression, and I think it’s genetic, and I think it’s chemically imbalanced brain. Therefore, I’m going to prophylactically give little baby infant a medication in the hopes that 16 years from now they don’t get diagnosed with it. Again, there’s zero research to back that up, but they’re doing it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Walk me through. And by the way, this is fascinating. And I’m going to have you back because this has just been, you know, so much information that there’s no way we’re going to get everything covered in the short amount of time we’ve got. So I definitely will have you back. This has been fabulous. So we’ve got people out there listening. Let’s say something happens and we’ve got a situation, something happens and things happen. I mean, Dr. Watson, we all know that, you know, nobody’s immune from these things. No family’s immune from these things. But all of a sudden you find yourself where something’s happened and all of a sudden there’s a family member that’s going through some sort of a problem. They’ve had a psychosis episode or whatever the case may be. What should they be looking at and how should they be handling this moving forward?
SPEAKER 12 :
So if we’re talking about something severe like psychotic experience, first time, first episode, first thing I would say is, are they smoking marijuana? Are they smoking something? Are they doing any sort of illegal drugs? Because the increase with that is about anywhere from a three to six fold, 600% increase. And so if they’re doing that, Be careful that they weren’t misdiagnosed with a psychotic disorder. Oh, it’s the onset of schizophrenia. Nope. It might have just been a medication-induced or an illegal drug-induced, in which case, hey, stop the drug and you should be fine. And don’t go on any antipsychotics because that will increase your risk of having a second episode. If it’s not that and we call it, let’s say it truly is a psychological experience that they’re having, the most effective treatment right now is something called open dialogue approach. I would tell the listener, go research open dialogue approach, start looking throughout the United States for somebody, a practitioner who’s willing to do something like that, or a more psychoanalyst type therapist who’s willing to work with somebody, or even if you can’t find that, a cognitive behavioral therapist or somebody who’s willing to work with the client but does not agree with you, say, hey, I don’t want to take antipsychotic medications, I don’t want to go down that path, I want to see if I can manage my safety and put structure. The other thing is that you really gotta understand why is it happening. We know that from research, if I go into any hospital or any clinic right now, and I look at these studies, there’s only about seven or eight studies out there, if I pull all the patients out and I do a full, full lab work and I do full blood analysis and I really look at all medical, you know, metabolic issues, I’ll find roughly about anywhere from 15 to 18% of them actually have a medical condition. And when you treat the medical condition, the psychiatric goes away. So one out of every six right out of the gate Again, we know it really doesn’t have psychosis because it’s psychological. There’s some other Lyme disease or some sort of other thyroid issue or some sort of other thing going on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Gotcha. Okay, makes total sense. One thing I read the other day, and again, I’m not in your world, and I don’t even sometimes understand your world, and I’ve had this conversation with even other family members, and I don’t do well in this world. I’ll be really honest with you, Dr. Watson, I’m one of those to where… I guess it’s just me and my personality where if stress is high or there’s something going on, I’m one of those where it’s like, you know, I find something to do. I bury myself in work or I go do something else that gets my mind off of whatever that other thing is that’s going on. And I guess I’ve always looked at problems as everybody has one. How are we going to deal with it? And let’s move forward. I’ve never let those problems get me down to the point where you feel like, you know, I just can’t make it anymore. And, again, I know I’m weird and I’m unique and I’m not like everybody else. No, you’re not. I struggle with some of this because it’s like, you know, in some cases, folks, if you were just I’m sorry to say, but if you were busier and you weren’t sitting around feeling sorry for yourself, you may not be in this condition in the first place.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, you’re right, and there’s something to be said. There’s not eating disorders in Africa. Nobody’s bulimic in Africa. And the same goes true in a lot of other countries as well. Now, we know we had psychosis go back 500 years, 1,000 years even, and somebody had an experience, they’d see or hear something, they’d go to their elder, they’d sit around a campfire, and the elder would talk to you and say, well, tell me about the imagery, tell me about it. And they’d amplify it, and they’d find out about what is really going on for you. And when they would do that, they would make sense out of it. And by making sense out of their craziness, quote-unquote, they actually were able to come to some rational thought. And the psychosis then would go away. So having, you know, again, exercise, not only is it good for the body, it’s good for the mind. It’s one of the best stress relievers. That and actually having sex, those are the other stress relievers. But, you know, staying busy, yeah, you’ve got less time to be kind of mind-screwing yourself.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s almost like, in a way, I guess it would be like exercise, other than when you’re working, you’re doing it for a longer term. Most exercises, you know, 20 minutes to an hour. I know there’s some people that will run and even go longer than that, but typically that’s kind of the time frame. When you’re working, though, Dr. Watson, that can involve, in some cases, several hours, in fact, hours upon hours sometimes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct. Well, and that’s one of the challenges. We have an anatomy of an epidemic right now with diagnosing and putting people on medication and then ultimately getting them on disability. Bob Whitaker, a good friend of mine, wrote a book called Anatomy of an Epidemic and then Mad at America. And he really highlights this phenomena that’s happening where basically young children are getting diagnosed and then they get, you know, a little more severe diagnosis and then they get a little more medication. And then as an adult, then they can’t really work because they’re now becoming cognitively impaired. Mind you, you know, even airline pilots, you know, back in the day, I’m a pilot as well. And back in the day, you couldn’t be on psychotropic meds. Well, now they loosen that up. And we’ve attributed a lot of crashes to, you know, them being intoxicated on these medications, which is a real problem. 31%, in fact, with a contributing factor back in the FAA report back in 2017. So my point here is that we’re getting people on disability, and they’re becoming, and they accept that label, I am mentally disabled. And once you start to take that label and you self-identify yourself, it’s game over. It’s no different than, like, you know, I hate to say it, but the transgender community and a lot of other communities, when you start to self-label yourself as an outcast, as unworthy or radical, you really start to adopt it and you start to, you know, others view you that way as well. This is also the narrative why you know, again, kind of the marked of communist manifesto, if you can call somebody a Nazi, guess what? It’s a lot easier to be angry or violent to somebody when you say, oh, that’s a Nazi. You feel justified then not being nice, not being humane to somebody, because you feel like, well, they’re inhumane, they’re evil, so therefore I can, you know, destroy that evilness. Meanwhile, it’s a projection because you’re the one acting in an evil fashion.
SPEAKER 10 :
And again, as I said, and I mean this, the whole Marxist movement is to get exactly where we’re at and what you’re describing, because at the end of the day, if you don’t feel worth in yourself, well then, okay, government will come along and help you feel worthy. Forget about that Almighty God stuff. He doesn’t exist. We do, and we’re going to make your day better. Reality is that is false, false hope, and it doesn’t work, as you’re saying.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely, yeah, without question. It’s exactly the challenge that we have. People really need to recognize that they need to be self-aware, self-critical. The government’s not there to help you at this point, although I have to say this administration certainly is doing a much better job of being able to highlight some of these challenges and problems that we’ve been having. I am thrilled that we have RFK in the office right now. I think he’s really opening a lot of eyes, and I think there’s… a lot of power at play right now trying to make him just look out to be crazy or that he’s not scientific. But if you, if you dive in and go down that rabbit hole and listen to some of the work that he’s doing and read those studies that he has read and others, you’ll start to understand that, okay, the curtains are being pulled back, and you’re seeing that the wizard isn’t quite what we thought it was.
SPEAKER 10 :
You’re exactly right. One other thing I wanted to ask you, and it’s something I read here a while back, and again, I’m not an expert in your world. I’m an old car guy, so that’s my background. I’ve been in that world my entire life. I’ve been a business owner since I was very young, 1986. I was 22, and again, the working side of it, when you’re self-employed, you don’t have a choice. You just keep working until you figure a way to grind things out, and so that’s just the only way I’ve ever… have ever known, Dr. Watson. But I read something the other day that talked about how long ago there were two different beliefs, I guess you could say, or different theories on how we should handle, you know, mental illness and people that get discouraged and depressed and so on. And one of those was, listen, instead of looking back and looking at all the trouble that you may have run into in your life, which, by the way, we all have, let’s look forward, let’s look to the next new thing, and let’s move forward that way, versus the Let’s concentrate on the past. Let’s try to work through all those things that have happened. Let’s get those things out of your mind, and let’s do our best to make sure that you concentrate on the past and then work through that rather than looking to the future. The problem is we adopted that latter version, and rather than keeping people on track to look forward and forget about the past, we dwell on the past. Is there truth to that?
SPEAKER 12 :
There’s truth to exactly what you’re saying, and there’s research to support both. So, again, people remember the old Sigmund Freud, and he was the one that kind of looked at, hey, this is all about, you know, libido energy and your past and childhood experiences. And there’s, you know, some truth to that, that it can be helpful. However, you’re exactly right that people can just get stuck in, like, keep looking at the past and keep exploring it. And again, you know what? You can’t change the Buddhist mentality. You can’t change the past, so don’t worry about it. You can’t predict the future, so don’t worry about it. All you can do is work with the here and now. At this exact moment in time, nobody’s trying to kill you. Nobody’s trying to try to bomb you. You’ve got food in your belly. Some people love you. So life is good. So take a mental vacation at this moment and take a big deep breath. Tell yourself a little auto feedback and a nice self-affirmation. Hey, I am worthy. I am healthy. I am capable. And get up. We call it jumping in. You know, dialectical behavioral therapy is one of these catchphrases, DBT. But they’ve got some great skills where it’s just like, hey. Get off the couch, jump in, and go do something. And guess what? When you do that, endorphins kick in, serotonin goes up, you start to have a physical activity, and it really starts to make a difference. I would tell listeners, if you’re really struggling, even on a particular day, and you just can’t seem to wake yourself up, go to your bathroom mirror, look at yourself in the mirror, smile at yourself for one minute. And you’re going to start to laugh, and you’re going to think this is stupid as hell. But you know what? The moment you say it’s stupid and you start laughing… It changed your cognition. The fastest way to change your feeling is change your behavior. And I’m like you. I started off when I was 21. I opened up a large bar nightclub and I got in that business. And then I ended up in a lot of other businesses. But I went back to school and became a clinical psychologist. and then a researcher and trained as a scientist. But I’ve always kept my entrepreneurial piece to me. So I don’t do this even though I do kind of semi-full-time and I do a lot of testimony and whatnot around the country and I help people around the country. I’ll fly to them. The only way that I’m allowed to do that is because I’ve got real estate. I’ve got boats. I’ve got all these other businesses that I’m doing. And it allows me to kind of multitask and allows me to have these little parts of my identity, which is really good. And I would encourage other people, you know, if you’re not happy with your life, change it. You know, I like Morgan Friedman when he used to talk about racism. He said, you want to stop racism? Stop talking about it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, if you want to stop your depression, stop talking about it. Go do stuff before you know it. You’re going to be going, wow, I’m outside. I’m having fun. I’m talking to people. But your identity has been given to you from a therapist probably who diagnosed you. And now you’re like, I am bipolar. I am this. I am that. Get rid of the label, get rid of it, and redefine who you are. And you can do that immediately and be done with it. And again, when people say, hey, this is a lifelong illness, no, it’s not. It’s only a lifelong illness if you tell yourself it is. It’s only a lifelong illness if you take medications that make you biologically prone to it. This can be cured and done in a week.
SPEAKER 10 :
Awesome. Dr. Toby, again, Toby Watson, we’ll have you back. This has been great. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it. I’m out of time, but thank you so much. I appreciate it greatly. Likewise. You’re awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 12 :
Just look me up, Dr. Toby Watson.
SPEAKER 10 :
We’ll do it, Dr. Toby Watson. Appreciate it very much. All right, let’s make a change, Charlie. I’m going to have to move some things around, so we’ll move Dr. Scott to the next hour. Let’s do this. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. And if you want your roof to be not only maintained but have it last longer, rejuvenate it, you can replace it, whatever you need to do, Roof Savers of Colorado is there for you, 303-710-6916.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 10 :
And wow, that is it. That was a fast-paced health and wellness hour. I hope you enjoyed that last interview. I know I did, and we will definitely have him back. He, I don’t know how else to say it, awesome interview we just had. And if you’ve got anybody you know that’s struggling in that area, I would highly recommend you go to our website, RushYourReason.com, find this particular episode, and send that on to somebody. And please help somebody out that’s having some issues in that particular area. That’ll help them out immensely. We’ll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’m a rich guy.
