In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush brings to light the significant acquisition of the Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems by a former Republican election official. With a decision to implement changes advocated by Donald Trump, this move has raised eyebrows, as it potentially nullifies previous allegations regarding compromised voting machines. The conversation unpacks the implications of this acquisition and the shift towards creating a more transparent and auditable election system, now labeled as Liberty Vote. John and co-host Andy engage in an insightful discussion on the complexities involved with machine voting, potential outcomes, and democratic processes.
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It’s finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I’m a pro jack. And who do you think they give you? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18 and he’s going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know. And he says, oh, it won’t be any money. When you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Payton.
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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world.
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Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. Happy Friday. Y’all made it. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And we made it to Friday, Andy. We made it to Friday. Feels good. Two movies today, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we got Soul on Fire and Tron Ares. Did you watch the original Tron?
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s been a long time.
SPEAKER 07 :
I did.
SPEAKER 10 :
Long time. Did you watch it again just to make sure you were up on it or what?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no. I didn’t think it really mattered too much to the current story, and it doesn’t.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good to know. All right. In news. Yes. Before we get going with Andy’s reviews. This is an interesting story because I didn’t know this was even something that was in the works, and most of you probably didn’t. As well, former Republican election official buys the Denver-based Dominion voting systems and has agreed to do exactly what Donald Trump mandated in the executive order, even though that executive order doesn’t apply to states. This particular person is saying, you know, it doesn’t matter. We’re still going to do what he’s asking to have done. So for a lot of you that have been on the whole Dominion train and we shouldn’t have machines and so on and so forth, this is a game changer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I don’t think it is.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it’s a game changer as in, if they thought that it was the machines that were cheating, they won’t be able to say that any longer because this guy will now be running it instead of somebody else, is my point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah. And by the way, I was agreeing with you. I was saying I disagree with them. Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, if they think this is going to be a game changer… And guys, I don’t mean to come down and be cynical. I’ve always said my problem with the Dominion systems was that they were open to compromise. I felt they really were. Okay. My problem was I didn’t see any proof they had been compromised, certainly in any meaningful way to affect the elections. I just need proof before I can jump into something like that. I didn’t see it, John. My prediction is it will have virtually no effect on outcomes here in Colorado. All right. Now, if you wanted to make a big impact on outcomes, I think same-day voting with ID would make a huge impact.
SPEAKER 10 :
And for all of you listening, there will be an article. We’ll talk about it even probably a little bit more next week. But there is an article that is out kind of talking about how this particular person will also make sure that things are auditable, paper trail, the whole nine yards. And, again, it’s a big article. Those of you can go out and read it. I wasn’t aware that this was – did you know this was even in the works?
SPEAKER 07 :
I knew it was possible. I didn’t know if it was going to happen. What do you think of it, John?
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I think it’s a good thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think what it does.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s going to take away a lot of the concerns.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. That was my exact comment was if anyone after the fact is now going after the machines, quote unquote. Right. That should now. Now, remember. Okay, you and I can talk more about this on Tuesday. Sure. Because we can get into this in depth on Tuesday. But we’ll give you all a little bit of teaser. This is going to take away the, well, my candidate won because they cheated. Right. This is going to take away some of that, in my opinion, meaning you’re not going to have that excuse. Meaning those of you that are on the on the hardcore right, the Davidian end of things, and you run the wrong candidate and you wonder why they lose. This won’t be your excuse anymore.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. This excuse is now going to be gone. I will say this hypothetically. Okay, hypothetically, if you wanted to cheat big and quickly, you would do it with machines, obviously, right? But the simple fact is you can cheat using paper ballots, all right? I always mention Fulton County, Atlanta, all right? Remember boxes of ballots. You can do that, folks. It’s not like you can’t cheat by doing it the old-fashioned way. People have been stuffing ballot boxes for how long? Come on.
SPEAKER 10 :
since the beginning of voting, Andy?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, pretty much. If you wanted to. Yeah, pretty much. And so what all I’m saying is this, you know, am I against this? No, I’m fine. I think it’s great. You know, take away that excuse. I was never in love with Dominion anyway. You know, I had concerns about it at least being open to compromise. That was that was my only concern is it seemed open to compromise.
SPEAKER 10 :
So the new company is going to be called Liberty Vote.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
They’re changing the name from Dominion to Liberty Vote. But does the state have to work with them? That one I have no idea on, Andy. These are things that I’ll have to look at before we get into Tuesday.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. The state party is run by Democrats. Can’t they just turn around and say, fine, we’re going to use someone else who gives us a system we like?
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t understand how that works. Well, I’m guessing it depends upon probably previous contracts that might probably still be in effect given he bought an existing company. That I don’t know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And is there clauses in there that if ownership changes, they can now avoid the contract? These are things that are beyond my scope of knowledge at this point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, but here’s, and we’ll leave it with this, but the state party bought a certain product, okay? If new ownership takes over, and you know this in business, John, if a new ownership takes over and changes the product, I don’t see how you are still tied into that contract.
SPEAKER 10 :
You may not be. Okay. To your point. And you’re probably correct in what you’re saying there, Andy. And this is, again, these are things that we’ll have to do some research on. But here’s where it gets a little dicey. With only a year left, does that give someone else enough time to come in and change an entire system around? And I don’t know that answer either.
SPEAKER 07 :
I believe it would. I believe they would have time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, again, these are things that are, again, folks, I’m not going to claim to know because I don’t. And here’s something else.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I could be wrong, yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER 10 :
What I was just going to say is for those that are going to come out on social media and claim they know, this is another one of those where be careful because, frankly, they probably don’t either.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, that’s why I said I believe they would. I believe they would have enough time to get a new program in there and run with that, but I don’t know that. I mean, John, the amount of simple data entry that you would have to do, transferring all the data over into that would be enormous. Yeah.
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And here’s the other thing that Democrats on their side are going to have to be a little bit leery of. If you change just because now a different owner has taken over that’s more on the right side of the aisle than the left, what does that say about you as a party?
SPEAKER 07 :
Not good things. Exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
So there’s a lot more at play here than just, yeah, we’ll switch and go with the other guys. So we’ll talk again. This is a good topic. We can get into more of this on Tuesday. I just want to tease you all on this. This is news literally that I just saw this morning. And I haven’t even seen too many people on social media at this point talking about this change. And I’m kind of wondering why, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Last question for the businessman, and maybe you can answer it Tuesday. I don’t know. Why would you buy something like this simply to have it not be used? I mean, obviously you do as an activist, but is he going to lose money on this purchase?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, because you’re going to use it. Because we’ve talked about this in the past, and again, we’ll get into this more on Tuesday. But folks, those of you that think hand-counting ballots is really easy, it’s not.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, no.
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Back to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John! Are you ready for a movie?
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, well, John, how can a boy come back from almost burning to death? I mean, wow, that’s horrible, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
It is bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, well, we find out in the true story, Soul on Fire.
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Come on, John, stay with me. Wake up! Coming through, coming through.
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How bad is it? He has burns to 100% of his body.
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I want to send out a special hello tonight to a certain young man who’s laid up in the hospital. His name is John O’Leary. He’s a tough little guy.
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Boy, you listen to me. You will walk again. When I first came to see you, they said you had no chance. But here you are. You’re going to face challenges when you get out of here. But you can still do almost anything. Do you like to dance, Beth?
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No, Wes, but I will.
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Who is that guy? John O’Leary. He’s kind of a legend around here.
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Why didn’t you ask me out the night we met?
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Figured you wouldn’t want me to.
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Welcome to the first project of O’Leary and Bright’s construction.
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Yeah, everybody grab a hard hat.
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Ladies first.
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No. Why would a man who can’t hold a hammer choose to be a contractor?
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I guess I like to just see houses for what they can be, not what they are.
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I have a scout troop, and I heard about what happened to you. I just thought that my girls might be inspired if you came and talked to them.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, wow. I may have an idea for a way that we could work together.
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Public speaking? I hope you got better at it.
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I know what it feels like to think you’ve probably thrown your life away.
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To move through the adversities of life, we must have a reason to thrive that is bigger than all the challenges that we face.
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If you focus exactly on loving the life that you’re living right now, not the life that you think you could have had or should have had, that’s the whole deal right there. Everything that you did, why me?
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Seemed like you needed it. Good life out of ashes. Remarkable.
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The most powerful weapon on earth is the human soul on fire.
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All right, John, what do you think? William Macy is in this?
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Yeah, I love William Macy.
SPEAKER 10 :
I do, too. I would not have picked that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, and John Corbett’s in it, too. Nice. You would know him if you saw him.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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Well, John O’Leary, you’ve probably heard of him. He’s a world-famous author and motivational speaker. But it wasn’t always that way, John. As a 10-year-old boy, John made a terrible mistake by playing with fire. John burned down his house and sustained 100% burns over his entire body. Well, he was given, at best, 1% chance to live. Think about that. The surgeons, the doctors, they’re all saying 1% at best chance to live. And they told his parents because they wanted to shoot straight with him. They weren’t being mean. But his great parents, Denny and Susan, they were played by John Corbett and Stephanie Sostak. Well, they refused to give up. Neither did a hardcore male nurse named Roy, played by Devon Franklin. This is a true story. Once again, I’m just reminding people. And he existed, too. Now, through torturous physical therapy, John survived. Now, John was a huge St. Louis Cardinals fan at a time when the legendary Jack Buck was their announcer. You remember him, don’t you? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
I used to hear him. Joe Buck’s dad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. And he was so smooth. He was smooth as glass. It was really something listening to him. But anyway, Jack heard about John fighting for his life and visited him. Well, Jack became laser focused on young John surviving and thus began a great friendship that lasted many years. From there, John’s life was a struggle. He lost his fingers, so he had to learn how to eat with a fork, basically using stumps.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, think about that. He had to learn to walk again. Everything was absolute pain. Now, he grew up. He went to college, and while becoming a big partier at college, he was. He was the life of the party. He met a young woman named Beth. And she’s played by Maisie McLean. By the way, at this point, John is played by Joel Courtney.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. And Beth, she challenged him. Hey, get with it. Get it together. And don’t women generally do that for us? Yes. I honestly believe God put women on the planet for two reasons. First of all, for their own greatness. And secondly, to get us to recognize ours. Eventually, John went on to be an author and a speaker. But he learned hard lessons along the way. The question is… If we could do it all over, would we change anything? Now, he was asked this right away, and that’s the question John has to answer in Soul on Fire. What do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
Sounds like a good movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Well, what works in Soul on Fire? First of all, just a great message, John, obviously. You get one life, make yours matter. It’s pretty good.
SPEAKER 10 :
Make the most of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Strong, understated performances from William Macy, John Corbett, and all the other adult characters. My favorite, actually… Well, first of all, I’ve got to give Macy his props. He did such a great job. You know Macy. He can play very extreme characters or very laid-back characters. This was very understated because so was Jack Buck. And I felt that that added a lot to his emotion because when you’ve got somebody who… is always over the top emotional, then when they get emotional, it doesn’t mean much, right? But when you got somebody who’s always under such absolute control, like Jack Buck was, and then to see his heart broken with this kid, it really hits you, all right? But my favorite, I’m gonna just say was Devon Franklin, and he played the nurse. Nurse Roy, he was good. He was good. He was fun. He was interesting. And he also took him through the toughest times. And finally, this is a very touching story showing the real struggles of overcoming incredible pain. All right, here it comes. What doesn’t work in Soul on Fire? Oh, John. Truly awful directing. I mean awful. And we’ll get into what that means in a moment because a lot of people don’t know when a movie is being directed well or directed poorly just because they’re watching to see how good the actors do, how funny it is, and how it looks. And that’s fine. That’s what they’re there for. They’re the audience. You’re supposed to be watching that. Here’s what I mean. Now, the first half was pure pain. And I’m not talking about John’s suffering. Once again, there was no topping of lines. And so you would have these actors delivering their lines fine, but there was a pause between each one. This one speaks, pause. That one speaks, pause. This one speaks, pause. That one speaks, pause. It was just awful. And what it would do, it would just ruin the flow of the movie. I mentioned that to Corey because she went with me. She said, yeah, there’s no. And we were actually talking a little bit during it. And she’s like, there’s no flow.
SPEAKER 10 :
No continuity.
SPEAKER 07 :
No continuity. Yeah. And the reason is they’re not topping each other’s lines at all. That doesn’t mean you do it constantly. That way, if you see people topping each other’s lines, this person talks that one, this one, that one. But then there’s a pause. Then it’s dramatic.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
You see?
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
But if there’s a pause between every line.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s too weird. Yeah, it doesn’t work at all. Because you don’t talk like that normally.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 10 :
Like we just did.
SPEAKER 07 :
What we’re doing right now, right? Yeah, exactly. You see, that’s how people actually talk. Correct. In real life, they go back and forth. You talk to your wife around the house. You guys go back and forth. You’re topping each other’s lines naturally, constantly.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s just the way communication works.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which you just did. And it’s normal. It’s good. It’s high energy. Really quick here. No, wait.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don’t even want to practice the other way.
SPEAKER 07 :
But you get the idea. John’s college roommate could have easily been a very funny character, but the director wrecked the comedic timing with pauses. You could tell the actor could deliver the lines. But first of all, they weren’t expecting enough of him. And secondly, the pauses killed it. Next. Now, this is awful. The college party sequences. Oh, my. This is a Christian film. All right. The college party sequences look like bad family TV from the 80s.
SPEAKER 10 :
Really?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my gosh. Corey, who was with me, she said it looked like homeschoolers trying to act like beer drinking partiers in a school play.
SPEAKER 10 :
In other words, they have no idea what they’re supposed to be doing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And it just, it was awful. It was, it was painful. It was just like, stop. I mean, literally cut the film, cut out this 10 minute section, all of it. I don’t even care if it’s important to the plot.
SPEAKER 10 :
Watching Charlie play a drunk. Yeah. It kind of would be. Not to be rude, but that doesn’t work out too well.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it wouldn’t. It just wouldn’t. And here’s another thing. What does OMG mean?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Well, because they couldn’t take God’s name in vain during the movie, they had all these young teen or college characters saying, oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, jeez.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. And they did it like a dozen times. I don’t know. I lost track. And it sounded awful. And I was just like, oh, please. I know you don’t want to take God’s name in vain. That’s great. Don’t. Use another phrase. Use anything else than this. You sound so Christianized.
SPEAKER 10 :
Come up with one if you have to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I mean, there are hospital rooms that are not this sanitized. Okay. It was really painful watching this. They literally spent no money. This is a big one. Aging John and Beth as they grew into having kids and becoming 10, 20 years older. Okay, because they showed them 10, 20 years later with kids, you know, and Jack Buck is aging and all this. They looked exactly like college students still. Seriously. They looked the same.
SPEAKER 10 :
If only.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, if only. Gee golly, that’d be great.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my God, Andy, if only.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anybody who’s ever been to a school reunion. I had to throw that in there on purpose. Yeah, but seriously, anybody who’s ever been to a school reunion knows.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, they age. Yes. People get fat. They age. They get crippled. They, you know, crippled as in their back hurts.
SPEAKER 07 :
They age quickly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, here’s another one. While the last third of the movie picked up. The ending then drags out again. And I did think that the last third of the movie, and this is why I think it’s going to get some better scores, especially from the people who go. We’ll talk about that in a moment. You know, as we always say, what is the part people remember the most about a movie? The end. Exactly. Exactly. Well, the ending, they did drag it out, but the last third was actually close to about a four-star movie. That last third. No, there was two-thirds before that. Okay. This is a classic example, though, John, of Christians who go to the movies having very low expectations for Christian films.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s too bad. It shouldn’t be that way.
SPEAKER 07 :
It shouldn’t be that way. It should be the opposite. They don’t expect… It should be the opposite. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know my feelings on this, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, how you and I were just topping each other’s lines, that’s, you know, you go and watch a movie with Seth Rogen or whatever, and they do their comedy shtick. That’s exactly what they’re doing, and it’s funny, and we laugh, right? And we watch two people doing that without that. We’re not going to laugh. We’re just sitting there wondering, hey, what’s going wrong here? Yeah. Well, Christians are a little more forgiving because they’re – honestly, they don’t go to a lot of Hollywood movies. They don’t. And this is something for all you who don’t know. I see a lot of the same people in some of these theaters. The Christian movies, it’s a totally different crowd. It’s people I barely see at the movies. Got it. And it was this time as well, which is fine. They’re wonderful people. But here’s the thing. Because they’re so sick of Hollywood’s usual lefty sickness – That’s why they don’t go to a lot of movies, which, by the way, I think there’s a lot of honor to that. They have very low expectations, low standards. And so, you know, I looked at a lot of the reviews from people who had gone to the movie, right, the audience reviews. They were quite friendly, very friendly, praising it, praising it, praising it. And I was just watching and I was looking when they would say why they liked it. And it was just all about what a great inspirational story it was. Well, guess what? It is an inspirational story. Make a better movie. I’m telling you what, John O’Leary deserved a much better movie about his life. He is incredible. This movie is not. Rotten Tomatoes, it was mostly Christian or right-wing kind of leaning reviewers. Most of the other ones wouldn’t touch it because it only had like six reviews.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Gave it 83% because of that. Okay. John, it’s not that good. Sorry. Quality, two stars. For me, it was one. I’m being nice here.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. I’m going to give it two because, once again, I think people are pretty forgiving. And I do think that the last third was much better than… The lines were coming together. It was better directed. It was starting to get chemistry.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Two stars. Political, three. Moral, religious. Obviously, it’s a five. Great morals. Great politics. Just a great feeling watching this man’s life and watching what he did. But do I recommend going to Soul on Fire? I’m not recommending against it. Folks, if you are a Christian and you want to see this Christian film, go ahead. Go see it. Just understand that first two-thirds, there are going to be some very, very clumsy moments.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can you take a nap? Just kidding.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just about did. I just about did. Oh, my gosh. There was one point where… This teenage girl or young 20s girl or whatever, because there was a group of them, and they were asking him questions, and she was asking hers. I’m going to just say it. Pretty young thing. One of the worst actresses I have ever seen in my entire life. Wow. Must have been the niece of the director or something. Some family member. Yeah, I was watching this, and I’m just like, oh, my gosh. And it’s kind of funny, too, because this is – we’re talking about – a one-minute segment out of an hour 45 whatever movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you still remember it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, not only do I still remember it, Corey brought it up on her own later last night. Remember that girl? She was so horrible.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow, that’s too bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and you know Corey. She doesn’t review movies. She’s a smart person. She’s not dumb like me. She doesn’t put herself through this. So she went to that. Yeah, she had a real hard time with this movie, too.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so I have a minute or two.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is, as you know, one of my biggest complaints.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is that, you know… Christian movies, directors, all of that, you know, put out a less than stellar product, and yet they expect everybody to still come and give it good reviews and this, that, or the other. And the comparison, folks, and hear me out on this. We’ll talk more about this on Tuesday. The comparison is you all that are on the far right in the Davidian circle think that because they’re your candidate and they think like you and they’re just like you, that everybody should also vote for them. And the reality is that’s not how it works.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Am I right, Andy?
SPEAKER 07 :
John, that’s incredibly profound. Let me finish it. Because what you’re saying is we will look at this hyper-Christian movie, which, by the way, I’m hyper-Christian.
SPEAKER 10 :
So am I. We both are, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, absolutely. But it’s very poorly made, especially the first couple thirds are just with some of the worst acting, the college scenes, the whole thing. Directing is awful. And we’ll look at this, and we as Christians might say, oh, this is really good, and then show it to our friends who aren’t Christian, and they’ll just be like, they’re looking at their watch, begging for this to be over by midway through. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
They want to get saved just so it can be over.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Well, Davidian candidates, Davidians believe, not all of them. I believe the leaders in the Davidians don’t believe their candidates will win. They just want the money.
SPEAKER 10 :
They just want the money. You’re right.
SPEAKER 07 :
They want the money. They want the power and the money. That’s all they want. Right, because during the primary, they soak up a lot of cash. That’s right. I believe that the Davidians out there in the crowd honestly believe that their candidate who believes with them, who marks off their entire purity test, is going to sell to the general public in Colorado.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they’ll get killed.
SPEAKER 10 :
They get the best Liberty score, so they’ve got to be the best candidate.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And when they get clobbered, what are they going to say? Dominion. They’re going to say, we were cheated. They can’t say that now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, they’ll say something. We’ll see.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m just saying you make a heck of a point there. You’re right. It’s exactly the same thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because it’s what it is, and it aligns with us, you should like it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow. That’s true.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s what they think, Andy. Yeah. And the reality is, folks, the world’s not looking at it that way. And the difference between the movie and politics is that movie doesn’t really have any bearing on one’s life moving forward. It’s entertainment period. Yeah, there might be a message that changes somebody’s life at some point in time. But the reality is that’s probably minimalistic if you really want to get down to it. But politicians, oh, man, they affect everything we do in life, especially the local ones that we elect. Yeah. There’s huge impact is my point there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my.
SPEAKER 10 :
And yet you all aren’t looking at it correctly.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, they weren’t. I remember when we chose Dan Mays, and we didn’t vet him, and obviously he had a lot of problems, it turned out. But it was basically the exact same Davidian type of people back then who chose him. And what they said, when all the bad stuff about Dan was coming out, they said, this won’t matter. He’s such a good man. We don’t believe this. We don’t believe this. He’s going to win anyway. And I was just like… You’re out of your mind.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, they were. They’re crazy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
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The best export we have is common sense.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’re listening to Rush to Reason. And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John.
SPEAKER 10 :
Are you ready for another movie? This one, the previews look really cool. They look a lot of fun. They do. Yeah, they really do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, and you never saw Tron.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s been a long time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it was way back when.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s been a long time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Way back when. But okay, here we go. Disney, they bring a long overdue sequel. By the way, there was one. Oh, I didn’t know that. Yeah, it did. Oh, okay. But we don’t talk about that. Anyway, they bring a long overdue new sequel to a sci-fi classic in Tron Ares.
SPEAKER 08 :
Since time began… Man has gazed at the stars and he has wondered, am I alone? So much talk of AI and big tech today. Virtual worlds, what are they gonna look like? When will we get there? Well, folks, we’re not going there. Today, are coming here. I would like you to meet Ares, the ultimate soldier. He’s biblically strong, lightning fast, supremely intelligent. And if he is struck down on the battlefield, I will simply make you another.
SPEAKER 24 :
You think you’re in control of this. You’re not.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, John. You think you’re in control of this review. You’re not.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I’m not.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in the original film, we saw how we could go into characters in the digital world, right? But now, super tech companies are competing to bring the digital world here. Okay. Well, Julian Dilliger, he’s played by Evan Peters… He and his company, Dillinger, have created a technology that brings things and characters from the grid. They call it the grid. It’s like calling it the Matrix, right? They bring it from the grid into the real world, but there’s a catch. They only last 29 minutes, and then they fall to ashes. Why is this? I have no idea. They don’t say. Anyway, Julian’s competitor, ENCOM, is led by Eve Kim. Now, she’s played by Greta Lee, who’s a good actress. I enjoy her. And she’s been working on the permanence code. Are you keeping up with all this? The permanence code, which would fix the 29-minute problem. Okay, so you get that code into this person or into this bike or into this whatever thing that you zap into the real world. And guess what? It’ll stay permanently. It won’t just fall apart in 29 minutes. Well, Julian, he can’t allow Eve to win, so he unleashes his top AI warrior, Ares, played by Jared Leto, who’s a good actor, to get the permanence code from Eve. This is terrifying, since these AI warriors are practically unstoppable in the real world, even though they only last 29 minutes. Well, I’m telling you what, if you’re as fast and powerful as these guys are, you can do a lot of damage.
SPEAKER 10 :
You can do a lot in 29 minutes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, you can do a lot in 29 minutes. Well, Ares, he has his own issues, however. He doesn’t appreciate being seen as expendable, would you? Since Julian insists if Ares is killed, he can just make more. Gee, thanks. Also, Ares sees something in Eve. He sees something in Eve that Julian lacks. Compassion. But it’s not as simple as just switching sides. Because Ares has a fellow AI warrior named Athena, played by Jodie Turner-Smith. And she’s fully loyal to Julian’s commands. So once again, Julian… He can send out Ares, he can send out Athena, or he can send out their whole team, right? And he’s going to send them after Eve, but Ares is starting to wonder about things. Will Athena? Now, there are many other AI warriors as well, so now it’s a race against time. Who will Ares help? Will Athena work with him or against him? Can Eve survive Julian’s heartless agenda? And throughout it all, will we be enjoying watching an amazing light show in 3D? That is basically the story of Tron Ares. What do you think? It looks good, yeah. Yeah, it’s kind of an interesting plot, right? Okay, well, what works in Tron Ares? Well, first of all, you get some solid performances from Leto, Lee, and especially Jodie Turner-Smith. Now, she’s the villain, and I like this. She is Athena. I thought she did a very good job. You have good music throughout this. A lot of good music in the movie. I like a good soundtrack. So do you. Most of all, this is an absolute visual feast with the grid world invading our own. Everywhere these grid cycles go, they leave behind a wall, right? A wall behind them that either slices through anything in its wake or becomes impenetrable for real world vehicles. This is really something to watch. Oh, and they’re really fast too. So that’s very cool. Now, there are some moments of levity with Eve’s assistant and with Ares talking about music. There’s also a pretty fun moment where Ares is basically talking to Eve and breaking her down psychologically. He’s basically a computer who knows a lot of subjects. I’ll just say that. And it’s pretty funny. All right. What doesn’t work in Tron Ares? Yikes. Well, first of all, the evil corporate CEO exploits the latest tech for bad. Wow, we haven’t seen that a trillion times, right? I’m sorry, folks, threadbare. That horse has been beaten so far to death, it’s pulp. Just saying. Here’s the biggest one. And by the way, I’m not the only one saying this. This was almost universally said by a lot of of reviewers. Terrible, terrible script. And it is bad. This literally packed about 45 minutes of story into nearly two hours of film. Wow. And I was yawning. We’ll get to that in a moment. Gillian Anderson, she was Scully on the X-Files. She’s almost lifeless in her role as Gillian’s mother. Yuck. She was terrible.
SPEAKER 10 :
She’s a good actress.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, she is. I like Gillian Anderson a lot, but she was not good in this. I didn’t care about any of the characters, like at all. This is the worst part of the movie. They tried to create instant sympathy for Eve, for instance, by inserting trauma involving her sister, but it was so cliched and forced. The whole city, John, is being destroyed and I didn’t care. Hmm. All right. They could have put puppies, nuns and disabled veterans in this film. And Tron Ares would have made me actually care nothing for them, too. It was incredible. Rarely have I watched a film and cared absolutely nothing about the characters who were in it this much. It was a light show. I was just watching a light show. Not saying there weren’t some moments, but boy, oh boy, few and far between. Before long, an amazing light show with no heart becomes a tedious trip to a theme park. I haven’t yawned this much since my last budget appropriations meeting. Okay, this was boring. Needed far, far more humor. And it really did. Eve’s sidekick. She had a sidekick guy. He was actually woefully underused. He could have been very funny. And once again, the moment where Ares is analyzing Eve, you start to wake up for a moment. It starts to become funny. Okay, well, that moment passes and they go right back to, I don’t know, everybody talking very seriously about what they’re going to do while nothing’s happening. I remember when they did, you know, you had the original Star Wars, right? 4, 5, and 6. And then they go back to the prequels 1, 2, and 3. And they talk about all this… interplanetary politics on a planet that you don’t know and don’t care about. Remember how boring it was? It was really boring. And they’re all talking about this various politics going back and forth. That’s how this movie felt. You don’t care. That’s poor writing, definitely. It’s also very poor directing. Not as bad as Soul on Fire. Okay, it’s better directed than that. But basically, here’s what I was watching, John. And I did watch it in 3D, which was very impressive. Wow, right? Just light show going all around the theater. And it’s like, whoa, I’m watching all this. That’s very cool. But I couldn’t care less about any of the characters. You know what? That whoa feeling, lights going around the theater, that’s really entertaining for maybe 20 minutes. Okay, I need a story. I need characters who I actually really care if this one gets killed or not, or if that one survives or not. Okay, and you don’t. And once again, on this, the reviewers were almost unified across the board. Virtually none of them thought this was a good story. So there you go. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes. Last score I saw, it had gotten up to 55%. Wow. Yeah. That’s bad. That is bad. I hate to say this. This is going to sound really mean. But, you know, I asked Corey, I said, well, you know, one zero to five. What do you think? And she said. One, she said, for me, it’s a half star. She said, but I’m going to give it one because of the light show. I said, you know what? I got to be honest. I was so bored. If yawning this many times, I’m going to give it one star. This was a bad movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s not what I expected.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. I know because it was so cool to watch. Not at all what I expected. I’m watching these previews. I’m thinking, oh, this is so cool. And there were a few moments. It’s just like, wow. And she thought it was even worse. She said it was like 20 minutes of story in the whole movie. You know, I’m being nice. I thought it was about 45 minutes of story. And what I noticed a lot of the time, John, is that they would have a little bit of story, right? And then just all kinds of visuals for like 5, 10 minutes. You know what? 5, 10 minutes is a long time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that’s a long time in a movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, when you’re watching a movie. And you want something that gets you gripped and attached. And I know I’m kind of repeating myself at this point. So basically, Tron Ares. Do I recommend going to Tron Ares? No, I do not. But if you are just really into that light show kind of thing, guess what? You may enjoy Tron Ares. It may be a lot of fun for you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay? For everybody else, if you want to watch people that you care about in any kind of situation, don’t go to Tron Ares. Don’t waste your money. Oh, I’m sorry. Political. Quality, one star. Political, two. More religious, three. One, two, three. Three.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. One, two, three. That’s sad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the usual beating up on big corporate bigwigs. I took it down to two for that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, who cares now?
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s getting old. America’s moved on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Precisely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, the woke side of things already changed all that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLC 560. Okay, John, quick question here. As you know, the Schumer shutdown, the firings have begun. Trump.
SPEAKER 10 :
I saw that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the Trump administration is taking the opportunity to start a reduction in force with permanent firings. Okay. Which I’m not sure they can use the shutdown as legal justification for that. Don’t know. Don’t care. That’ll be hashed out in the courts. But here’s my question to you. What about all the senators and congresspeople who are still being paid during this time?
SPEAKER 09 :
They shouldn’t be.
SPEAKER 07 :
See, that’s what I wanted to know.
SPEAKER 09 :
They shouldn’t be.
SPEAKER 07 :
Although I got to ask a question here, though. What about the Republicans who all voted to keep the government open? Should they lose their paycheck? I mean, they voted to keep it open.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I think the majority of those, honestly, I think if you really sat down and talked to them, if you took it away while this is going on, I don’t think they’d even care.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I think they’d be fine. If I were one of them, you know what I would do? I’d say, I’m donating my paycheck to help, I don’t know, cops or whatever. Yeah, I mean, Trump doesn’t even take one, so what do you do? I just think that definitely everybody who’s voting to keep it shut down, the Democrats and Rand Paul, should all lose their paycheck, in my opinion. The Republicans, what do you think their… I mean, I would understand saying, no, they’ve got to lose theirs too if this was just tangled over a tough budget.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s not. It’s over wasteful spending is all this is over.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, and all this is is a resolution to keep it open for seven weeks while they talk.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t see you see what I’m saying here. I don’t see how you can blame the Republicans for this shutdown.
SPEAKER 10 :
You can’t. In fact, they’re going to start voting for Republican stuff. I don’t know if you saw this, but they’re going to start actually playing ads of Kristi Noem in airports talking about how the shutdown is the fault of the Democrats.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m going to be honest. I wouldn’t do that. I think because you’re using the airports as a place to take political shots. And even though it’s totally right, I saw the ads, and she does a very good job.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and basically, for those of you listening, it’s basically, here’s the reason why you might have delays and so on.
SPEAKER 07 :
The Democrats have cut, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
They have cut funding and so on. You know, and honestly, I don’t have a problem with that, Andy. Here’s why.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
You’re explaining why somebody’s sitting there wondering, why am I having the issues here? Well, guess what? Here’s the reason why. Well, and what she’s saying is true. It is. It’s totally true. There’s no lie there.
SPEAKER 07 :
My only concern was, I mean, these are tax-funded places, and you’re using them to take shots politically.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, is it a shot or is it an explanation as to this is why your travel is delayed?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it’s both. I mean, what she’s saying is 100% honest. Now, if the Democrats did this, they would use lies. Oh, they would. That’s right. They would be propagating lies. Absolutely. Kristi Noem’s not lying at all. No, you’re right. What she’s saying is 100% true.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. You’re correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, at any rate, so you know what? I’m going to say this. I believe all of the Senate should not be getting their pay during this time, and the House. That’s my opinion. What do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
I can’t argue with that. I can’t argue with that. I think there’s a lot of government officials, frankly, that shouldn’t be getting paid. And to your point, really quick, I know we’re out of time here, but going back to the people that Trump is going through and cleaning up and basically not furloughing but laying off, yeah, that’ll come out in the courts. Does he have the right to do so? Frankly, he probably has the right to do so at any time. Is this a valid time? I mean, I think if you’re going to clean anything up, clean it up. Let’s go for it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I love it, of course. I say cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. You know me. I mean, if it’s not efficient, cut it. Yeah, I’m enjoying it thoroughly. Fully agree. But I just think that while our ICE agents are putting their lives on the line while not getting paid, I don’t think Congress should either.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can’t argue that. Nope, can’t argue that. All right, what are we doing next hour? NFL picks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we’re going to do NFL picks, and then we’re going to do, because of Soul on Fire, we’re going to do inspirational stories, and that’s going to be different for everybody. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
You all have different ones. All right, we’ll come back. Got another full hour coming your way. Rush to Reason, Debra’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We’ll be right back.
SPEAKER 1 :
I’m a rich guy.
