In this episode of the Mike Gallagher Show, we delve into the explosive topic of the Epstein files and the mounting pressure for their release. Mike dissects the political implications of the situation, discussing Donald Trump’s changing stance and the influence of congressional figures like Marjorie Taylor Greene. Join us as we unravel the tangled narratives and analyze who stands to win or lose in this political chess game.
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We have nothing to do with Epstein. The Democrats do. All of his friends were Democrats. You look at this Reid Hoffman. You look at Larry Summers, Bill Clinton. They went to his island all the time. Many others are all Democrats. All I want is I want for people to recognize a great job that I’ve done on pricing, on affordability, because we’ve got prices way down, but they go on. way lower on energy, on ending eight wars and another one coming pretty soon, I believe. We’ve done a great job. And I hate to see that deflect from the great job we’ve done. So I’m all for it. You know, we’ve already given 50,000 pages. You do know that. Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation, with the Martin Luther King situation, not to put Jeffrey Epstein in the same category, but no matter what we give, it’s never enough. You know, with Kennedy, we gave everything and it wasn’t enough. With Martin Luther King, we gave everything and it’s never enough. We’ve already given, I believe the number is 50,000 pages, 50,000 pages. And it’s just a Russia, Russia, Russia hoax as it pertains to the Republicans. Now, I believe that many of the people that we, some of the people that we mentioned are being looked at very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein, but they were with him all the time. I wasn’t, I wasn’t at all. And we’ll see what happens. What I just don’t want Epstein to do is detract from the great success of the Republican Party.
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Well, it can’t detract, but it can distract. And that’s always been his concern. Here’s a headline. Boy, here’s one that’s one for the ages from the Washington Examiner, Byron York. They knew Epstein was guilty of trafficking underage girls. They stuck with him anyway, except Trump. Trump dumped him like yesterday’s dirty laundry. According to all written accounts and reporting, when Trump knew that this guy was a degenerate, a pervert, who was preying on underage girls, he cut him off completely. Kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. Wanted nothing to do with him again. But that’s not the narrative the Democrats are trying to advance. They think they’ve got Trump somehow. in some kind of compromising relationship with Epstein, because he knew Epstein at one point. They all knew Epstein at one point. And isn’t it funny how they’re avoiding the fact that there was a Democrat congresswoman, I guess she’s technically a delegate from what I think the Virgin Islands, being coached by Epstein during hearings to try to get dirt on Trump. Epstein hated Donald Trump. Period. Which one would think would be a pretty important part of this story. Look, I know what’s going to happen. As the files get released, a whole lot of rich, famous, powerful people are going to have some kind of level of implication. And when that happens… I mean, already Larry Summers, the former Harvard president and Obama administration official, is ashamed of the role he played with Epstein. He’s been revealed, and he’s like, I’m out of public life. I’m ashamed of myself, and I’m retiring from public life. Now, I’m sure he’ll keep his cushy teaching gig at Harvard. But no more speeches, no more public appearances, no more D.C. dinner parties for Larry Summers. And that’s just going to be one of many. And there will be a distraction. We’re going to take you to Capitol Hill in just a moment where Marjorie Taylor Greene is on Capitol Hill speaking to reporters. She’s gathered by a group of survivors. She appeared with Ro Khanna, the California congressman. talking to reporters about the Epstein vote that is about to commence later today. I want to get your take on all of it. We’re not going to run from it. You know, it’s a real issue. It’s an important issue, I guess. I say I guess because I know it comes from bad faith motivations on the part of the Democrats. I’ve never understood Trump’s reluctance other than maybe to protect some perhaps powerful donors and rich and important people that are going to get smeared. It’s like grand jury testimony. There can be lies that are reflected in the Epstein files. And like the old quote goes, where do you go to get your reputation back if you haven’t done anything wrong? If the only thing you did wrong was knowing Jeffrey Epstein, if that’s how you’re going to be smeared, guilt by association, that’s going to be a problem for a lot of people. And I suspect Trump wanted to avoid that problem. So give me your take on it here in the Relief Factor studios. This Tuesday, here we are, November the 18th, 2025. It’s great to have you with us. Our number is 800-655-MIKE. One number does it all. Call or text. But tell me what you think about where we go from here. Because I don’t know exactly. A lot of this story, I have to admit, I’m confused by. A lot of it baffles me. I can’t figure out why Trump didn’t want to release the Epstein files. I can’t quite understand. There’s a lot of it I’m confused about. So maybe you can be the voice of reason, the voice of clarity today here on the Mike Gallagher Show. 800-655-MIKE. Flood the zone. I want to fill my phone lines with your voice, your call, your perspective on what you think happens next. Do you think my prediction is correct? that a whole lot of potentially innocent people are going to get smeared by the release of the Epstein files? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. You ready to drop up to 20 pounds or more by the new year? Have you been struggling with belly fat forever? You know, the older you get, the harder it is to say goodbye to those unwanted pounds. PHD Weight Loss cracked the code. They have a metabolic reset system that’s a science-backed way to get your body to burn fat first. Look, I’ve tried everything my whole life. I counted points. I counted calories. I did crazy starvation diets. Then I met Dr. Ashley Lucas, and I learned all about her brilliant program called PhD Weight Loss, the only program that guarantees your success and your results. If I can lose over 50 pounds and keep it off over a couple of years, you can too. Everybody can. When you call right now, they’ll waive your consultation fee, you’ll get two extra weeks free, and they’ll cover the cost of your food during the program. Just for booking, you’ll get Dr. Ashley’s book, Five Steps to Reset the Scale. Hurry, call today, 864-644-1900, Ph.D. Weight Loss, 864-644-1900, or visit their website at myphdweightloss.com.
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Breaking now on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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So today the big congressional vote is going to take place over releasing the Epstein files. Moments ago, Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene weighed in with reporters on Capitol Hill.
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Let me tell you what a traitor is. A traitor is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves. A patriot is an American that serves the United States of America and Americans like the women standing behind me. And I want to tell you that this only became possible today because the American people whom we serve as representatives here in Congress, demanded that this vote happen, and they put more pressure on every single elected politician in this city than has ever been put on them. And today you are going to see probably a unanimous vote in the House to release the Epstein files, but the fight, the real fight, will happen after that. While I want to see every single name released so that these women don’t have to live in fear and intimidation, which is something I’ve had a small taste of in just the past few days, just a small taste. They’ve been living it for years. But the real test will be, will the Department of Justice release the files? Or will it all remain tied up in investigations? Will the CIA release the files? Will a judge in New York release the information? That’s information that needs to come out. And will the list of names that these women privately hold, and they hold it because… of their fear in their heart of what would happen to them if they release it on their own, well, that list of names come out. That’s the real test. So I want to thank Thomas Massey and Ro Khanna for your bravery in doing something, doing something that is much needed in America, crossing the political aisle that has become bigger than the Grand Canyon in America.
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Okay, so there’s a lot of analysts who are saying that Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey outmaneuvered President Trump, that they beat him on this. Mix in a little Democrat handiwork like Ro Khanna, and you’ve got a president who changed his mind. Look, this president changes his mind when he feels like it. And he evidently has changed his mind on releasing the Epstein files. Give me your take, 800-655-MIKE. And, yes, I’m seeing all your text messages. There is a cloud flare Internet problem. So if you can’t stream the show today at MikeOnline.com, if you go to the Salem News Channel app, you’ll be able to watch SNC.TV. We think Salem News Channel, the over-the-top streaming platform, is working, but not much else is. Thankfully, the radio part is working. It’s like a metaphor for the state of broadcasting 2025. Radio is the sturdy foundation of everything. Everything else stems from the radio. And radio is working. The bones are solid. Everything else has gone to crap. Before I take your calls, I want to remind you about what’s happening in Ukraine. Elderly Jews are trapped in unbearable poverty. Galina is a 96-year-old Holocaust survivor who spent her entire life in the same village. She’s sick. She’s alone. She’s facing another bitterly cold winter. Today, like every day, she has to decide whether to spend what little money she has on food, on medication, or heat. No one has to live like this. No one should be forced to live this way. The Bible tells us that when we bless elderly Jews living in poverty, like Galena, you will get blessings back. Through the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, you can bring hope to those in need. Your gift of just $25 will help provide a food box packed full of life-saving essentials that will help feed an elderly Jew struggling to survive. As you know, we were in Israel just a couple of weeks ago, and we were visiting with our friend, Yael Eckstein, the president and CEO of International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. I love this organization. Don’t delay. Visit UrgentIFCJ.org. One word, UrgentIFCJ.org to make an online donation. UrgentIFCJ.org or call 866-338-IFCJ. Rich in Marietta, Georgia. We’ll start there. Hey, Rich. Welcome to the show. How are you?
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Hey, Mike, thanks. You know, originally Trump wanted to release the files, and then he just wanted to kind of move on and talk about all the things that he’s doing. And now he’s just calculating that it’s just easier just to go back to his original position. So I think it’s just no big deal. But, you know, it’s just one of those things.
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He’s got good instincts. That’s exactly right. It is like the often used phrase, it is what it is. Fred’s in Houston. Hi, Fred. Welcome. How are you?
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Doing well, sir. Good morning. And it’s the first time I’m calling. It’s a privilege to talk with you.
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Thank you, Fred. Welcome to the show. We’re glad you got through and I’m glad you could join us. We appreciate it.
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My thoughts are this. President Trump is showing the gentlemanly side of himself. He does not want the political shrapnel from this explosion to harm children and wives and other family members. That inevitably will happen when this kind of thing happens. There will be those who are wounded who will carry those wounds, and nobody will ever know about it. So, President Trump, hats off, sir. You’re a gentleman.
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All right. Appreciate your perspective very much, Fred. Thanks. Look, the Democrats are in complete… meltdown mode. You’ve got to hear this. People thought this was AI. Here was Chuck Schumer, who is flailing, who’s floundering, who’s facing a revolt within his own party. Check out the question and answer session at a press conference that he held yesterday.
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Why wouldn’t they have been released the last four years when President Biden was in office?
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Well, that’s the question every American is asking. Not every American, but so many Americans are asking. What the hell is he hiding? Why doesn’t he want them released? When you don’t want something like this released, when even a whole lot of Republicans are calling for the release, his own party members, people ask the question, what’s he hiding? It’s got to be answered by releasing the files.
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Did you hear the… Hear the shock, the gasp from the pool of reporters? He was asked why the Biden administration didn’t release the Epstein files, and Schumer said, yeah, what the hell is he hiding? That’s right. I want to know. Of course, in his mind, he thinks that they’re all going to go with him and focus on Trump. It’s just kind of a strange, all of it is bizarre. It gives me a headache. There’s important things to deal with. And as long as we’re on the Epstein subject, how about this member of Congress who was texting with Jeffrey Epstein during a hearing to get Trump? Trump is completely, it seems, completely blameless on this. Again, as Byron York reports at the Washington Examiner, they all continued to hang out with him, with Epstein, and reach out to him even after they knew that he was a convicted pedophile, except Trump. Trump wanted nothing to do with him. So once again, their narrative doesn’t work. But we’re going to see how this plays out. Give me your take on all of it. 800-655-MIKE. We have an open line. 800-655-6453. And yesterday I was watching Will Kane over on Fox News. He asked some really powerful questions about this particular member of Congress texting with Epstein. Why aren’t the Democrats asking about that? Hmm.
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I’m going to try to write one a week for the next year and a half.
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Look at you at the White House yesterday, huh?
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I know. I saw the president in the Oval Office, and I gave him a signed copy of the book. He signed one for me. We exchanged books and talked about the news of the day. I was in there for about an hour. He was in rare form before heading over to McDonald’s. That’s where he was headed, to the McDonald’s.
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I swear he’s my doppelganger because, like him, I love McDonald’s. Like him, I love Diet Cokes. What a combination, right? And I found out that his favorite sandwich at McDonald’s is mine, the good old Filet-O-Fish. And he’s got the same complaint I’ve had about the Filet-O-Fish, not enough tartar sauce.
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Yeah, he was, and I was telling some people on the set at CNN last night about this, and several people said, wait a minute, that’s my favorite sandwich. So finally, I found some common ground, Mike, between the people at CNN and Donald Trump, and it was over the humble Filet-O-Fish.
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Well, I want to talk about the book. I want to talk about the issues of the day. Clearly, and I saw the inscription on social media that President Trump wrote, and it was just perfect. It was to Scott Jennings. All he said was, in very simple words, you’re great. And he put great in huge, bold letters and that iconic signature. He’s definitely a lot higher on you than he is Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene today. Scott, I’ve got to ask you, because I hate this. This, to me, is like watching two friends in a big fight. And you hate it because you don’t want to be in the middle. You don’t want to take sides. I’ve thrown it out to my audience. Look, people are kind of reluctant to even dive into this because all of it’s unpleasant, all of it’s uncomfortable. What’s the Scott Jennings 35,000-foot view of this big battle between President Trump and Congresswoman Greene?
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Well, I’ll give you Scott Jennings’ journalist report. I was in the Oval yesterday, as we noted, and I talked to the president about it. And here’s what he told me, that back in the summer, Marjorie Taylor Greene wanted to run for higher office in Georgia, either senator or governor. And he had been shown a poll in Georgia and she was losing overwhelmingly. It was going to be a disaster. So he privately and discreetly simply sent her the poll. And in politics, when you want to give somebody some advice, sometimes giving them information is the best way to give them advice. So he sends that over and he didn’t tell her what to do. But, you know, if you’re, you know, reasonably intelligent about politics, you would see this and know what to do since that moment. She has opposed him on bombing the Houthi rebels. She has opposed him on taking out Iran’s nuclear facilities. She has opposed him on deportations. She has gone on a lot of television shows, including The View, and complained about his policies. She has dedicated herself to becoming an opponent of the president, and my view is… He finally just had enough of it. I mean, on the one hand, she says she supports him. On the other hand, she spent all year long opposing his policies and then opposing him personally on television shows of people who hate him. And I think he he finally got tired of it. And, you know, that that’s what happened. I don’t like it when Republicans fight either. But sometimes, unfortunately, it happens. But I think it all started when the president gave her some information that she needed to know. And it frankly probably saved her from a political humiliation in Georgia.
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Well, today is Epstein Files Day, as you know, and she held a press conference along with Thomas Massey and Ro Khanna today on Capitol Hill. And they said, hey, we fought for these victims. Now they’re going to get a sense of justice, a semblance of, you know, revealing who their tormentors were. President Trump didn’t initially want the Epstein Files release. Now he does. He wants to try to just, there’s nothing to hide, he said, from me or Republicans. Peer into your crystal ball. What happens next? Because I’m afraid you’re going to have, if we didn’t want any distractions, now you’re going to have a million and one distractions because everybody’s going to pour over the Epstein files and try to link people to nefarious activity.
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Well, Democrats may be careful what they wish for here. I mean, what have we already learned just in the emails that have come out? We learned that Larry Summers, major Democrat economist, former president of Harvard, was soliciting romantic and dating advice from Jeffrey Epstein. He’s now having to take a step back from public life. We’ve learned that Epstein was, after becoming a convicted sex trafficker, was programming programming with questions a Democrat member of Congress named Stacey Plaskett as she was working in a congressional hearing. And so, look, Democrats have wanted to try to make it seem like Donald Trump has done something wrong here. What we may find out is that people on the left and people in their party had a lot more contact with Jeffrey Epstein than Donald Trump ever did. All we know about Donald Trump is, is that he excommunicated Epstein from his life and from Mar-a-Lago, and that Jeffrey Epstein apparently hated Donald Trump for doing so. We also know that Epstein had all these contacts with Democrats. So I guess at this point, fine, let’s put it all out. Let’s see what the truth is. But I think some Democrats are going to have some explaining to do. They have a member of their conference, Mike, right now, Stacey Plaskett, who was in contact with Epstein, who was telling her what to say, and she was then repeating it verbatim in a congressional hearing. Does that sound like somebody that should be in Congress today? I might argue that no, it does not.
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And the Democrats are oddly silent about that revelation, aren’t they, Scott? Hakeem Jeffries isn’t saying a whole lot about that. In fact, when he was asked about it yesterday, it was just gibberish. Look, you heard Chuck Schumer. This is one of the funniest clips. I’ve got to play this for you. Here’s Chuck Schumer. He was asked yesterday, why didn’t Joe Biden release the Epstein files? Biden had them for four years, and it was a very simple question. And here was Senator Schumer’s response.
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Why wouldn’t they have been released the last four years when President Biden was in office?
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Well, that’s the question every American is asking. Not every American, but so many Americans are asking. What the hell is he hiding?
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I mean, Scott, I don’t know. Now, look, he probably he’s so consumed with hatred for Trump and he thinks the media is going to ask him. But when they ask him about Biden, I guess he defaults to thinking they’re asking about Trump or maybe he was blasting Biden. I don’t know. You decipher.
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Yeah, well, first of all, Chuck Schumer is cooked. It’s the one result of the New York City mayor’s race that I think we can all agree on. He is cooked. His party is done with him. He’ll be out of office in 2028. He’ll be out of leadership soon enough. That was a nonsensical answer, but it’s a great question. Biden had these files. They didn’t release them. And I don’t really have any recollection of too many, if any, members of Congress clamoring about this when Joe Biden was in the White House. The truth is Trump is right. When he uses the term hoax, It’s not that it didn’t happen. The hoax is Democrats trying to imply that Trump had something to do with it or that or to create a narrative that he was somehow complicit in it or did something untoward. There’s not a shred of evidence Donald Trump did anything. And I know that because if there was, we would already know about it. Democrats have had control of this information for years. And we’ve never seen anything. You can bet if Joe Biden and his people had anything on Donald Trump related to Epstein, it would have come out in 20. It would have come out in 2024. We’ve seen nothing. Now we’re seeing some evidence of Epstein contacts with Democrats. But look, they have been using this to try to tie down Donald Trump, to try to just distract him from what he should be talking about, which is, you know, the things he’s getting done for the American people. They did this to him in his first term. They just try to tie the guy up, run out the clock on a presidency. That’s all this is in my opinion.
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We all know what they’re doing. I call it the crap file. Every time the Republicans or Trump get a big win, then the Democrats pull something out of their crap file. And after the huge victory over the government shutdown, where the Republicans refused to blink, they did not cave. They beat Schumer. They beat Jeffries. They beat the Democrats. And then the Democrats said, ah, how about Epstein? Let’s pull Epstein out of the crap file, and let’s get that going here. It’s all performative, and we all know that. We’re visiting, of course, with Scott Jennings, host of The Scott Jennings Show on the Salem Radio Network and, of course, CNN contributor. And we’re talking. It’s the occasion of his new book. I can’t wait to read it. Of course, heaven forbid anybody send me a copy. I’ve got to, like ordinary people, I’ve got to go out to Amazon now and get A Revolution of Common Sense. I love the way this book is described, without cracking it open yet, how Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization. Scott Jennings, I have to tell you. I don’t know that I’ve ever heard the Trump era better described than just the title of your book, because that’s literally what he did. He stormed Washington, and he’s continuing to fight for Western civilization.
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What what he did when he took office and compare it to the first time around, I don’t think they expected to win the first time around this time. They thought they were going to win. They knew what they wanted to do. They knew the team they wanted to bring in. And they really smashed Washington before Washington ever got out of bed. And by Washington, I mean the Democrats, the media, you know, the bureaucracy here that opposes Trump at every turn. They sort of smashed everybody that is geared to stopping him. And you remember the first 100, 120 days was the fastest moving presidency since FDR. The executive orders, the moves that they were making, all of the issues he was tackling at one time. So the book really chronicles the spring when Trump shows up. And on day one, you know, that very first day, 200 people. executive orders, and he starts to tackle all these cultural issues, DEI, the transgender ideology, all the things that Biden had done to government, you know, immigration executive orders, rescinding what Joe Biden had done. He starts tackling all this, not over time, instantly, instantly. He starts signing things on day one. I remember a reporter that day telling me in the CNN set, you know, he’s doing so much, we don’t know what to cover. We don’t know how to cover this much news. Trump hit a bar, and he hit them fast, and they never really knew what to do about it. And now, you know, you look 10 months in, most Trump supporters I know couldn’t be happier with how fast he’s moved and how much he’s done for the American people.
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One of the best aspects, I think, of your book that I want to tackle is I’m astounded at how different Trump 2.0 is from his first administration. He has surrounded, and I think it comes down to personnel. He’s got people around him now, Marco Rubio, Scott Besson, Pete Hegseth, Doug Burke. He’s got people around him that are decidedly different from the first term. Do you think that’s the key to a lot of the success that he’s enjoying right now?
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You’re 100 percent correct. And that’s one of the things I learned writing this book. Personnel for him is everything. And I think in the first term, some of the folks were good people. They just they didn’t match his management style. And the way Trump operates, the nerve center of the government is the Oval Office. It’s right behind the Resolute Desk. He’s firmly in control. He’s giving them orders. They’re executing. They’re not there to execute their agenda. They’re there. to execute his. And so he’s got the right team for his management style. But you look around, Rubio’s a total all-star, best in handling some of the biggest issues in the world, whether it was quarterbacking the big, beautiful bill or trade agreements around the world. Lee Zeldin at the EPA is This guy’s a total stud when you look at the regulatory regime that he’s dismantling that’s held back American energy and American business. The White House staff, Susie Wiles, I mean, she’s so effective. The communications office is running circles around the media and around the Democrats. He’s got the exact right team for how he wants to operate. And love it or hate it, The president of the United States is firmly in control. That first time I met with him in February, I was looking around thinking, I don’t know who the heck was running the country the last four years, but I sure as heck know who’s running it right now, and it’s Donald J. Trump.
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Amen. I can’t wait to read the book. Again, Scott’s book, Revolution of Common Sense, How Donald Trump Stormed Washington and Fought for Western Civilization, is out now. I can’t let you go. Every time I have you on the show, people ask me, why don’t you ask Scott, on CNN, you are like a Christian surrounded by the lions in the Roman Colosseum. You take them all on one by one. And everybody always says to me, ask Scott, how do those folks treat him in the green room? Are they nice to you off air, Scott? Or is there a coolness? Do you notice? In other words, how do these people that you spar with treat you when the camera, when the red light isn’t on?
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Oh, they treat me fine because, look, I’m getting more eyeballs on CNN right now than we’ve had in years. I mean, people who never consumed CNN are consuming it. You know, these clips of our debates, they go viral every day. So I can I get treated quite well. And the truth is, I like most of the people over there. We have a nice little community and I’m glad I don’t know if it’s Daniel in the lion’s den as much as it is St. Stephen in front of the Sanhedrin. You know, he didn’t make it out alive. I’m so far escaping it. But either way, I feel the pressure of our biblical history.
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You are definitely doing missionary work, my friend. It was great seeing you in Chicago last week. Safe travels and congratulations on the book, Scott. Keep fighting the good fight.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, Mike, when you go to the bookstore, make sure you buy five, six, seven, eight, nine copies. We’re trying to hit the New York Times bestseller list. I didn’t want to send you a free one. I got to rack up my numbers, brother. See?
SPEAKER 06 :
I got to rack up my numbers. See how he is? I got to go to the bookstore and buy. All right, done. I’ll buy five copies, and I’ll give four of them away. If you’ll sign them. Will you sign them?
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ll sign every one of them.
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All right. You got a deal. You got a deal. Thanks, Scott. Appreciate you. Great seeing you. 12 before the hour. More coming up on this busy breaking news episode of the Mike Gallagher Show. Epstein Day. 2025.
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It’s kind of a funny thing to watch a couple of people you support and admire kind of go to war with each other. And this chapter this week has been Marjorie Taylor Greene versus Donald Trump. Look, the truth of the matter is there’s nothing good about this Epstein Files story. It will be very good. If rich, powerful, famous, or not famous people are held accountable, but there’s a lot of belief, there’s a strong belief that that’s not going to be revealed in these Epstein files. As my friend Mark Davis put it in Dallas, this is a little bit like releasing secret grand jury testimony, where people get hurt because they’re smeared unfairly. But we’re going to find out. I mean, this may be an F-A-F-O situation. I’m only going to spend a few seconds on this. I want to share with you one voice, Charlemagne the God, who had a pretty common sense reaction to this entire Epstein controversy.
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It’s funny how the news works. Bill Clinton wrote a letter to Jeffrey Epstein as well for his birthday, but nobody’s talking about that. And Jeffrey Epstein had a picture of Bill Clinton in a dress in high heels, you know, in his New York mansion, but nobody’s talking about that.
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Yeah, nobody’s mentioning that. Nobody’s bringing that up. Nobody’s bringing up this Virgin Islands congresswoman who was being coached by Jeffrey Epstein in what to say to Michael Cohen, who was trying to take Trump down. There’s a lot of ugly pieces to this, a lot of gross moving parts. And I don’t know where we go. What I want to do is stay pretty positive because I think it’s time for some positivity around here. We started out kind of rough. Cloudflare is down, whatever the hell Cloudflare is. All I know is I couldn’t get email. I couldn’t get online. People are finding out when they try to place an order on my pillow, they can’t put the order through on my pillow. And that’s terrible timing, because I got a shipment today of the five children’s Bible story pillows. Look at the one I’m holding, if you’re watching on Salem News Channel, of the nativity of Mary and Joseph in the manger with the baby Jesus. And it’s just a beautiful, this is a five-piece MyPillow set. It’s the Children’s Bible Story pillow set. The five-pack, only $29.98 for a limited time. Promo code MikeG. It’s the early Black Friday special. What a perfect gift for grandchildren in your life. I’m being told that tons of orders are being placed for these beautiful pillows. Look at the colors. You’ve got Noah and the ark, and you’ve got the resurrection, and you’ve got the nativity. And there’s a story. If you look at the pillow, on the back of the pillow, it’s got the story of baby Jesus on the back of the pillow. So as I’m holding this up, if you can see, there’s the front with this beautiful artwork, and then on the back, the story of the baby Jesus. showing the camels, and it’s really beautiful colors. And, again, the five-piece set, just $29.98 for MyPillow. So it’s a big day over there. Now, again, they’re having some problem with the Internet. So if you’ve had trouble placing your order today, use the phone number at MyPillow. You can get the blankets and the comforters and the duvets for as low as $25. You can get the pillow that started it all. Support MyPillow and Mike Lindell and the great team at Minnesota. I’m going to give you the phone number as the most important thing to do instead of MyPillow.com. 800-928-6034. If you want to place your order by phone and you’re having trouble ordering online, you could call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Or you can give it a shot. Go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. But because of this Cloudflare mess we’re having, we’ll be able to… The phone number is a better way to go. 800-928-6034. And this Bible, these five-piece pillows are absolutely outstanding. And, you know, I want to be positive. Let’s, again, going back to the positivity, I’m going to talk later this week to the great economist Stephen Moore. Steve was on Fox Business yesterday. There is a lot of messaging about affordability. And I have not asked you this question directly, but I want to ask you today. I’m going to ask you if you believe that economically things are better or worse under President Trump. I mean, look, we know where the stock market is. We know what the inflation rate is. We know what the price of gas is. We know what the interest rates are for mortgages. Everything, all those metrics are better under Donald Trump than they were under the Biden administration. Here was Steve Moore yesterday on Fox Business.
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The average family real income, median income since Trump came in office in January is up by $1,200. Where’s the affordability crisis if people have $1,200 more after-tax, after-inflation income than they did before? These are solid numbers.
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They are solid numbers, and that’s what Trump’s frustration is all about. The economy is doing a lot better than is being purported by the Democrats and the Trump haters who despise him so much that they want the country to fail. So let me just ask the question directly to you. I mean, there’s no shortage of ways you can reach us. 800-655-MIKE here in the Relief Factor Studios. In your personal experience, economically, are you better off now? Or are you worse off under Donald Trump? You follow the Democrat playbook. We’re in terrible, terrible shape. And I want people from all walks of life, from all ages, from all demographics. I want you to flood my phones and tell me if you’re better off or worse off where we are right now. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. It was anything that she could do.
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Cripple creep She sends me
